Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena BLOWS UP Zach Lavine & The Chicago Bulls

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

Gil's Arena BLOWS UP Zach Lavine & The Chicago Bulls as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew debates the latest drama surrounding Zach Lavine, Demar Derozan and the Bulls and predict where these stars will land when the team decides to blow it up. Other NBA Topics include - James Harden finally grabbing a win with the Los Angeles Clippers and making the case for Lebron James to win NBA MVP. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:17 Gil's Arena Shootout 0:07:57 Would You Let Dennis Rodman Babysit Your Kids? 0:12:35 Clippers 1st Win With Harden 0:18:27 Zach Lavine Blowing Up The Bulls 0:39:57 Who Should Lakers Trade for LaVine? 0:44:56 Hibachi Time - Lebron for MVP? 0:55:53 Gil Blasts The 80's Again 1:08:38 Get LeBron More Help!!! 1:12:00 Ceiling For Alpren Sengun 1:15:31 Debating The End of Thunder-Warriors 1:19:08 The Warriors Gotta Figure It Out 1:37:50 Is Klay Washed? 1:47:42 Trades The Warriors Should Make To Turn Things Around 1:52:05 Thanksgiveaway 2:10:40 MostlyFans 2:13:12 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Everybody had a good weekend? Yeah. Yes sir. Let's go, we looking a little down, fellas. What's going on? Let's get it on. He been up since 2 a.m. Hell yeah, I've been up fighting windstorms

and carrying on for like this, man. It's been windy out here for those who aren't in L.A. in the San Fernando Valley. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. We do. Yo, I like your new fits, your new style you got going on. You really...

Yeah, I got my bat bunnies on. Yeah. Yeah. Turn up. They all right? They got a little bat bunny on. Your new style you got going on you really yeah got my bad bunny zone Turn up We got Brandon Jennings here would have represented tough crowd as always head to toe like that with you like that Yeah, I got the John with the break off bottles they They frist you before you came in? They frist you. We good. We good. We got Kenya Martin back here with us.

Gucci. Something light. Something light for a Monday. No, no, no. We see you got something on. Absolutely, yeah. I be getting packed up, Gil, by the chat routinely. So, they bully me into getting some new shoes shout out to Adidas try young coming at the ice trees coming through these old things Oh, you know

Yeah, I'm sorry They've been on your ass. Yes boxes of shoes though. I have boxes. I just don't like opening shit Decision fatigue, I don't like picking outfits. The Chucks is convenient. But here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Zach Levine is making it clear he wants out of Chicago, but where will he take

his talents next? The Clippers got their first win in the Harden era, but is bringing Westbrook off the bench the right move. And LeBron may be the oldest player in the league, but could he become

the oldest MVP in NBA history? But before we get into that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. Look, we are literally giving bread away on this show. And it starts by downloading the app so we can stay on the air. Underdog Fantasy is our sponsor.

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You and me both. You and me both. I got beat in. I beat my head in yesterday. I tried to take your advice, do the halftime shit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, God damn, Josiah.

Football? Yeah. Don't blame me. But you said halftime. Basketball, football. You said halftime shit yeah yeah I'm like goddamn football yeah don't blame me but you said the halftime basketball football you said halftime because you usually have a field going into halftime it wasn't fracking but it was I did then they just betray you yeah yeah absolutely like they always do always and we do mostly fans the end of every show you drop a good question in the chat with your Underdark Fantasy username

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we've got audio versions available Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts from. So we've got a lot to get into, but let's start with this, Gil. Last week, we announced the 500,000 subscriber giveaway. So for those who missed that, if we get 500,000 subs by December 1st, Gil is giving fans of Gil's Arena $20,000 with Underdog Fantasy matching that with an additional $20,000. So that's $40,000 going to the fans. We're going to do a special show. You show up in the chat, drop your Underdog username.

We will pick people out of the chat so you know it's for real, and we're giving y'all bread. But there's been a lot of talk around these parts about who is the best shooter on the show. So it's time to find out. The first annual Gilills Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. We got everybody on the show who's gonna be participating in some capacity. Brandon Gill, Lexi, Rashad are gonna be shooting in the game

but we're opening it up to the fans as well. So we're giving y'all a chance to compete in the shootout. Look at us, we got the beat almost. All you gotta do is go to Gills Arena's Discord page to enter, and we'll select two fans to participate in the competition. We're also holding an open tryout Saturday, December 16th, at the District Court in Chatsworth, California,

where the top eight finishers will qualify for Gills Arena Shootout. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't mean to stop you right there. We don't know it's going to be eight. You don't think eight people got? No, no, no, no. We thinking about 32 to 64. Oh, more than eight?

Yes. 32 to 64. It's going to be 32 to 64. People? 32 to 64. Jeez. They get to qualify. If you don't have a broke jumper, it'll be a special competition.

The top 32 to 64. Now, I thought it was eight. I hope Underdog knows this as well, but it is what it is. Gil does what he wants on his show, and we just fall in line. But they'll get to compete in the first annual Gil's Arena shootout on January 20, 2024. So our two fan winners, our 32 to 64 trial winners, will then compete against Gil, Rashad,

Brandon, Lexi, and our two celebrity creators, Jenna Bandy and Jester. Yes, we are really extending this thing, taking it out. In a winner-take-all shootout for a $100,000 grand prize. You heard that right. $100,000 winner-take-all. You need that.

It's going to be a college bracket. That's why. But Gil, if one of y'all wins, you got to, you know, like y'all said, when y'all get the playoff bonus Y'all break it up with the rest of the crew. We all need a little bit. No, I'm talking about, you know, just I'm taking it to the streets

Be on the lookout for more details coming soon Don't miss your chance to compete in the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. Look, we love giving y'all bread, man. But in this particular instance, you got to have a... You got to beat Mr. B. You got to beat Gil. You got to beat Rashad. Mr. 10 won himself.

And Lexi, who has a plan. I'm going to try to match up with him first round. Who? Like, I'm going to... Rashad. Oh, I want you gone. First round? Oh, my.

Oh. Let him be a commentator for going on for. common for you set the brackets don't go out there bitch Like I said, I can't smoke your boots out there bitch Not worried about that. Not worried about that. Off day that day. Nah, ain't no off day. Ain't no off day? He getting ready now. Yeah, I've been getting ready for a while. He getting ready now. He getting ready now.

We saw what happened at Summer League when we went to the slam bowl. Yeah, he can't cheat me no more. Okay. He tried that in bowling. He see what happened. That was that smacked up. You see, he ain't brag about that now, did he? Oh, this is going to be great.

Oh, y'all went bowling? This is going to be great. Yeah, we went bowling. Right down the street over here? Yeah, we bowled. And then that first game, he didn't like it is going to be great. Oh, y'all went bowling? This is going to be great. Yeah, we went bowling. We're right down the street over here. Yeah, we bowled, and then that first game, he didn't like it,

so he said, oh, that was just a warm-up. Oh, that was just a warm-up game. Loved him again. Oh, can we do it again? Yeah, we compete on this show, but let's get into it.

So Dennis Rodman, NBA champion, Hall of Famer, party animal, elite cross-dresser, but has even spent some time moonlighting as a babysitter, according to former Sixers head coach Doc Rivers. It was a one-time thing, but when I was in San Antonio, I wanted to go out and we used Dennis Rodman for one night babysitting Austin,

which explains Austin and some of our kids. I don't know if I'm parent of the year or the worst parent. What made you go to Dennis Rodman of all the choices? He was over the house and he actually said, hey, I can do that. I love babysitting. And he did it. He did a great job.

The house was a mess. You're probably fortunate it was just the house that was a mess and the kids were okay. So, you know, I don't know if I'm letting Dennis Rodman babysit my kids, that's just me. But, Gil, I'm going to ask you first. Which former teammate would you or have you let babysit your kids? I had to babysit kids as a rookie.

I had to babysit Larry Hughes' children. That was part of my responsibility. And one of those children is famous now. So basically, I had to watch everybody's kids. So I had to watch his kids plus Big Jason Tatum, which Little Jason Tatum is. Hence why it's zero. Big Justin? I had to program him.

Okay, you got him early. Zero, zero. See, he don't know consciously. That Justin? I had to program him. Okay, you got him early. Zero, zero. See, he don't know with consciousness. That's why he had to. So you babysitted Jason Tatum. You know, like I said, it's Snapple facts with you.

You learn something new every single day. Yeah, I had a big, his father, Big Jason. They used to go out all the time, so, you know, they didn't have to pay

for babysitting, so that was me. I think he was about, I think Jason Tatum was about three three so it was them Shrek years or I had to be donkey Come on, let's go Was he a badass little kid? Well, you know, all the kids was amazing. I was the bad one Brandi if you had to pick a former teammate that you trust to babysit your kids, who would it be? I don't know. Kurt Thomas, old school. Just give him to Kurt Thomas.

You mean they're preaching to him now? Yeah. Old, old, like that old, you know, you need the old heads. Like the old grandpa, old grandpa type vibes. South, baby. From Dallas, man. Shout out to KT, man. And K, how about yourself? Which former teammate would you or have you let babysit your kid?

Have not let anyone. If I had to lot of damn teammates. I played for a long time, bro. I played... Hold on. Chuck! Oh, no, no. See, I get in there, baby!

Chuck. You know what? Watch my highlight. You know what? I would highlight. You know what? I would let JR watch my kids. JR? Yeah. JR Swish?

Yeah. Like, Swish, nah, he good with kids, man. Like, JR is like my oldest daughter. Yeah. Like, nah, he great with kids. Like, nah, Swish great with kids. Okay. Yeah, I'd let JR watch my kids, believe it or not.

Like, yeah. So y'all thinking wrong, man. These is your kids. Yeah. Yeah. You got to have somebody that'll fuck them kids up. So when you... Allegedly.

My kids well-behaved. Allegedly. So I don't need that. So when you leave, you're going to be like, hey, I'm... No, my kids well-behaved. Hey, here's my big young. Yeah. Big young.

No, no, no. No, I'm good. I'm good. Like, big young. Oh, he can't... Oh, I'll tie his kids up, put them in the... I see you just... I'd tie them up, put them in the closet.

Allegedly. Yes! No, facts, no, 100. 100. When he get back, how was the kids? Oh, they was quiet, they was good. Oh, they was the best kids ever. I didn't even got to pay me for this.

I didn't hear a peep out of them. No, I ain't, I ain't. Every day we're one step closer. Trust me, you give me your kids, trust me, they will behave. They'll behave too around me. Uncle Gil coming in, we good, we good, we good. Oh, no, the kids are back. Everybody's kids know.

Mr. Martin. Oh, no, that's Cash and Dylan daddy there. Like, yeah. So let's go on the flip side. Which former teammate would you never let babysit your kids? One of them boring ones. To me, one of them boring ones, man. Like, if you ain't entertaining the kids, that mean they're going to have so much energy when you get home.

It's still going to be up and shit. Like, oh, no, man. You're supposed to run my kids in circles, man, so when I get home they sleep. I worry about it in the morning. So Antoine can't watch my kid, right? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I can't say.

I can't say a name. I don't wanna put, I can't say a name. I can't say a name. Because I got where my head's going now. So on the flip side, his answer, I'm not letting Kurt watch my kids. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Can I watch your kids? No. You see, I never bring my family around.

Only trick or treating. Only trick or treating. We stop two blocks short, and then you turn right back around. I put them in the, they play basketball, right? Oh, yeah, they got to slip away, running around. Just training all day. They be training all day. They'll be running up and down.

You're going to be like, yo, my kid's like 4'5", y'all. That is real, though. No, we be on them. I'm already on LeVar Ball playing. I only had two so they could both succeed. Three gets a little shaky. One may fall off. But let's talk a little bit about these Clippers.

You predicted that in December the Clippers could run off 20 straight with this roster. You said it on this show. But they already got number one. You said 20? I said it could. I didn't say it will. I said it could. I didn't say they will. I said they could. Which, you know.

But after dropping their previous six games, including five with Harden in the lineup, Clipper finally got their first win in the Beard era, ended the Rockets' six-game winning streak. Let's look at the highlights. Tied at 100. About 17 seconds to go. That floor is crazy.

James Harden did what he does. Look at the movement. Everybody just standing around, but he hit the step back three and got the foul. Gave the Clippers a four-point lead. Put them over the top. Their first win since Halloween when we sat on this very couch. It's been a while. But they play San Antonio tonight and Wednesday night, so we might see that number increase. But thoughts on the Clippers getting their first win in the Harden era? I mean, a win is a win. I mean, you know, you got to start that train. But I think there's a lot of pressure that's off of them now just because of the win.

You know, when you start racking up losses and people say, oh, another loss, another loss, especially for somebody like James Harden. I know that was probably weighing in on them that they were losing. And so, you know, just getting that monkey off your back is, you know, always good. Do we believe in the Clippers yet? No, still don't believe in them. But it is good they got a win. But still don't believe in them. But it is good they got a win. But still don't believe in them.

I mean, they're going to clip. Clippers going to clip. Clippers going to clip. When you're on a team slumping like that, how good does it feel to get that monkey off your back, though, if you dropped a few games in a row? I mean, good. I mean, I've been on a 12-game losing streak before with Detroit.

I think we were 5-23. So I know what it feels like to be in a slump like this. So, I mean, just getting a win is just like, all right. Like, you know. But then, you know, we made a trade, and then we were two games out of the... Oh, yeah, y'all did make a trade. Yeah.

Yeah, we're 5-23, and we won 14 in a row. Like 12, 14 in a row. So you had a 12-game losing streak. Like 8, like 8-9 or something like that, yeah. You ever had any? I don't know what my rookie year was because we won 26 games. I don't know what the longest one was then, but I don't think, I couldn't have been sick.

I don't know what the number was. Okay. But after that, I don't really count my, I played my rookie year, but we wasn't that Every team after that was pretty good and we didn't lose that many games in a row. I Would've been impossible to deal with I was already hard to deal Six in a row 12 in a row. Oh, yeah Man, we go out to find something we want. Something like that.

Six, twelve. That's tough. Yeah, when you start losing. When you get into six and twelve, it's more you're just, you're fighting. It becomes the thing where you're thinking about like those games like this. Yeah. Those games like this, you start thinking about losing. The old saying, bad teams find a way to lose, man.

Yeah. Yeah. Like this win right here was the easiest win. Yeah teams find a way to lose. Yeah. Yeah Like this this one right here was the easiest win. Yeah, because the game was tied. Yeah, you miss you go to overtime Yeah, but I got a question Why does Russ have to be the big guy and be the one to make the decision But why but the fuck them him he the least paid off fuck off the captain But see that like yeah, that's what makes him the captain we are willing to sacrifice I'm not a great person for that a great teammate for that

But I wonder if it was even considered by the other three, you know, like fuck it. Oh, that's a fucking that's a problem Like ain't nobody like I do it. He would be giving him opportunity right now. Let me do this like that You know I'm saying I guess now, you know, you know what makes it more fucked up when Everybody who talks about Russ says how unselfish he is. Yeah, but the media's narrative around him Made him this selfish person when you know when I talked we talked to bill and bill said, man, when he came in, it was like, wow. Make sure he gets the ball one, two, three. It was one of those things.

Like, yo, this is Bradley Bill. He's supposed to get the ball six out of seven times. And then that seven times, he's passing it to you. So for a guy who's this unselfish when it comes to trying to make it work for everyone, and the way the media has portrayed him as this big selfish guy, that's the wrong part. You know what I mean? This didn't get as much coverage as the Laker shit. I guarantee if he said,

nah, I ain't coming off the bench. The whole media run a narrative of how selfish it is. Him saying, nah, I come off the bench, boom, let it go, like, oh, nah. Oh, damn. He ain't giving us nothing. Yeah, because it's not controversial. He ain't giving us nothing. And that's horrible of people, man.

So for those who aren't aware, so Chris Haynes reported last week that amidst all the turmoil in Clipper Land, Westbrook approached the coaching staff, asked to come off the bench to help the first unit develop some chemistry and to provide the second unit with a spark and some spirit at play. But I got to ask all y'all this. Do we really believe that Westbrook asked to come off the bench? And does him taking a back seat actually make the Clippers better?

Well, 100% he asked to come off the bench. Come on. I mean, he's done it. He played off the bench for the Lakers. Yeah, but I think with the Lakers. But I'm saying he, but it already was in him. He came off the bench, and then he came off the bench when he started with the Clippers. Right?

So when he's sitting there looking around, before you decide to look at him and shoot the bullet at him, he's like, hey. Yeah, I already know. Let me go ahead. All right. Before we even get down this road, I'll come off the bench, jump out the second unit because obviously, you know.

Yeah, and does it make it... Go ahead, my bad, bro. Does it make them better? We'll see. I mean, but Russ is still going to be Russ. So regardless if he's coming off or starting. But if it's going to make the ball movement

or the guys in the starters play better or well, I mean, whatever. But it doesn't make T. Luke's coaching job any easier because you still got to make decisions now at the end of the game. You still got to manage ego. All that shit still. So it doesn't make the job any easier because

Damn, dog. We all know we We want to start but fuck start we want to build the ones on the floor when the game is on the line so now So Russ go to the bench, but he do he does so many things to help you win. Mm-hmm some offensive rebound off those type of things, like taking charges. So what are you doing in those instances now? I think it's all about who's playing well at the time. But he's a winner, though.

See, that's the thing. You can't predicate him if he's making shots or not to say whether he needs to be on the floor or not. Because he's a winner. He's a proven winner. I'm pretty sure they'll play small ball. This is going to be

their big problem. Can you pull that clip back up? Not play. Just pause it when... I'll let you know. Pause it right now. Okay. Now, this is the problem

with the... most offenses right now. Right? They're trying to play five out offense, which where are you going to go? Kawhi, you can only go baseline, right? That's your open spot. So if you're not trying to go baseline, because you can't go middle because James Harden's right there. James Harden can't move because Powell's right there.

Obviously, Paul George and Zubat, they're out of this's right there. James Harden can't move because Powell's right there. Obviously, Paul George and Zubat, they're out of this offense right now. Like, this is part of basketball. This is why some of these guys are struggling, right? Now, when James Harden gets it, let's give it to James. Right?

Where he going to go? He can't go nowhere. Right. He's in the same situation. He can't go nowhere. Mm-hmm. Right? These guys supposed to be diving, cutting.

Like, Powell and Paul George, they should be flipping off sides, exchanging. Like, somebody should be ducking it. Like, there's so many things that should be going on. It's back to what we talked about last week. It's the guys on the floor, Powell included, everybody except Zubat, they'll catch it and get into their thing, guy. And that's going to be the problem moving forward all the time, like this thing we've been saying.

With Zoo on the floor, off the floor, this is the same look. Somebody going to catch it and go start dancing. Ain't nobody going to catch it and shoot it. Maybe in this situation, Norm Powell, I'm saying in this situation, if James was to swing it fast, boom, boom, get Jay Sean to back it up, and then swing it, make Fred react, and then swing it make Fred react and then swing it real quick that's the only shot that can be

but that's not going to happen. This is shell defense and offense. It's the typical shell defense where obviously you can't drive on it. Now if Powell back cut his man now James Harden has the left side right now if Dylan Brooks decided to try to take a charge

You got Paul George wide open in the corner. If not, he has a little floater Zubac could be on the other side I mean it just Like you only can do a step back here. Yeah, and back when Kawhi had it they was trying to force in baseline Yeah, so whoever when Kawhi had it, they was trying to force him baseline. Yep. So whoever, the bottom is, is that Jeff Green? Yep. The bottom man is Jeff Green, right? That's Garden Zubac?

I don't know who that is. Who is that? Some African dude. Well, I don't know. Whoever the big is, that's Garden Zubac or whatnot. When Kawhi had it, they was trying to force him baseline. It was going to come over. He was going to drop, they was trying to force the baseline. It was going to come over, he was going to drop. They were trying to force the baseline, but Jabari played decent defense.

They got a lot more. That's how it was so much time. But like you said, the only shot he could shoot is the way he doesn't step back. Even with Kawhi, there's so much like pick and roll. No, it's 3.3 on the shot clock. But that's what I said, right here, it's the only shot he can take. That's what I said, that you can only shot he can take that's what I said You can only take a step Even if you have more time, you're just nowhere for you to go. That's that's their offense back cutting

They don't know how to move like for for me to get Who's that Fred? Yeah for you to get Fred off the nail Powell interchange with Somebody got a ball George. So somebody got to move They that's the simple thing. That's the easiest thing to do. You're taught that in fucking middle school. Paul comes, set a flare for Fred. Set a flare?

Set a flare for him. But yeah. Because I know I would have. Clip's going clip. Clip's going clip. But that's every offense. When you just sit there, you just see these guys just playing one-on-one

and they pass it. One-on-one here. Oh, I can't go see these guys just playing one-on-one, and they pass it, they, you know, one-on-one here. Oh, I can't go. Here, you go one-on-one. I'm sitting here. Okay. We can't go no more, coach. Fucking idiots, man. I mean, were the Clippers more or less forced to make Westbrook make that decision

just from the standpoint of, like you said, Harden's coming in with 36 mil on the books, but just looking. But why the new guy can't do it? That's like that's my thing Why the new guy can't be the one we were playing decent before I wasn't Undefeated but we were playing decent before he got here Why didn't make let him make that adjustment coming off the bench and go back to the five that we had and Make him make that adjustment instead of Russ having to make that adjustment. It's what I'm thinking, but it's not my team. It's not, but that's just what I was, because we already had something decent going on already, something established,

a pace that we were going to play with Russ and let James come in and man the second unit. He got the ball in his hand, let him be him, and average his 20-whatever, something he's going to average off the bench. And I think that would have worked better, but we're here now. He's the easiest target, Russ, that's why. He's the easiest target. So regardless, even if he didn't, they still would just find a way to be like. Start blaming him for the losses that's stacking up. So it's just, he's just, yeah. He's the easiest, the easiest blame.

Now we've seen with Kawhi and PG, some good games, also some bad games. Some, you know, I mean, they've tried to struggle to find that chemistry, find that balance. But do they look comfortable when Harder's on the floor with them? It's going to take a while, man.

But it's just tough, man. Like, it is tough. Like we've been saying, they all have a dominant personality offensively. Kawhi, Paul, James, all have a dominant personality offensively. And the only way to do it, they need their ball. It's just what it is, man.

In order for them to be who they have been, which people expect them to be, in order for them to win a championship. And that's the standard now that they've made this move. It's always that, but now it's like it's really championship or nothing right now with the move that they made. And in order for them to be their best, who they are, which media and fans, team, everybody expects it, it can't be all three of us trying to be this alpha alpha this big dog around here and average 25 It just it's not gonna work

It is this is what it is Because you need what this you need James to score You you don't need him to score you need him to shoot that but well if I can shoot you got make the motherfuckers Like a more yeah, buddy, but he needs to average what a 20 put in order on it in order for them to be successful But that's I'm saying averaging 20 is not the problem. The problem is how you average in 20. Absolutely, but Putting the ball in the best. Mm-hmm The Dean didn't put the ball in the best. How have you doing it? Like I said, that's. It was 103. Unless...

Who the fuck scored? 103 between the three of y'all? That's the problem right there. To my point. 103? Yeah, that's not even enough. There's not even enough points to go around. That means you're moving too slow, you're holding the ball too fucking much.

Efficiency. No, they're just not playing fast enough. That, but they're not efficient scorers. To the, you know what I'm saying, all of them not, to the 11 for 15, none of them going to do that. Yeah, I'm not, none of them going to. But what I'm saying, 12 for 17s and, do they? Who them?

Yeah, this is, like for you to really be, they got to be owned. 25? In order for them to have them kind of nice They gotta be really on oh, they just got a goal Play faster Play fast, but be more efficient in their approach is what I'm saying. I think they can I mean they're efficient They're efficient. Yeah, they just don't shoot enough like they're coming down fast. It's like having three Chris Paul's out there I'm with you. Absolutely. All right, you get it? This guy's going to do his thing. Like, no, yo.

But that's what James has been. That's what that's been. Let's get, like, we sitting here trying to score, we should be trying to score 30 to 35 points every quarter. Yes. That's how fast we need to be moving. And if we're doing that, you're averaging 25, you're averaging 25, I'm averaging 25, he's averaging 18.

If we're going here averaging 20 to 25 points a quarter, nah. And them assist numbers will be high, but their ball ain't, to your point, the ball ain't moving. They need to play fast. But them assist numbers will be high with guys being more efficient, is what I'm saying. No, they can't get assists because they're all ball sloppers. Is that what you're saying?

They can all go 12 for 12 and still have zero assists because you give it to me, boom. Yeah, but that's not going... Assist is off, score. That ain't going to work.

So, Kenyon, to your point, this was kind of the first time we saw that usually in the previous losses, somebody was always the odd man out,

but Paul George was 8 for 22 at 23 points. Kawhi, 8 for 16 with 26. Harden, 8 for 11 with 24. That's, you know, he with 26, Harden 8 for 11 with 24. That's, you know, he's not going to shoot 8 for 11 every night.

He can. But how much does he have? But why not? But they can though. They can. But if you're Harden at that point. Hold on, hold on. So say that again, he was 8 for what?

8 for 11. So Harden was 8 for 11. He was 8 for 11, but the other guys, what were the other guys? 8 for 16 for Kawhi, 8 for 22. They all had what? They all had 23 plus points. 23 plus points, and they scored 103. Right, they could do, I mean, yeah, if they played fast.

That's what I'm saying. That is, need more possessions in the game. Like when you talk about the Golden State Warriors, when they were scoring, when you talk about run TMC when they were scoring, remember Denver with Kiki Vandewey? These teams are scoring 120 something So who who played so therefore the guy that plays the fastest is coming off the bench. So That's what I'm saying. That's why Russ would be my point. Yeah, Russ

You're my point because you're the fastest you're gonna get the ball up to court the fastest James Harden When you shoot the ball, please, one or two dribbles, get it up. One or two dribbles, I'd rather you just catch and shoot. I'll be a catch and shoot at this point. One or two dribbles, get that motherfucker up so we can get a rebound, offense rebound, they can come back down, we can come back down. By the time you get a shot up sometimes, teams would have went down on defense and came back and got another shot. Mm-hmm.

You know what I mean? And that's... Yeah. Got to play fast. Got to get more possessions in the game. Got to get them assists. It's just what it is. This is when you need D'Antoni.

I've never asked for D'Antoni a day in my life. This is when you need somebody like that because this is the type of... He would be trying to just outscore the hell out of you. And he got the talent, too. But you don't need D'Antoni that toner to do that no i mean i'm just talking about that pace yeah but you just like in order for they got to do it they got to play fast but you got to you can put it on film you can tell them all day but but they got to go out and implement it they got to go out and do it they got to go out and play fast they got them assist numbers got to be up got to catch and shoot and stop it's just what it is you got to get out and play fast. You got to, the assist numbers got to be up. You got to catch and shoot and stop. It's just what it is.

You got to get out this old way of playing. And in order for, to be successful, you got to go out of this old way of playing. Like it is what it is. They playing half, they playing half court basketball, every possession. Nothing easy. It's just half court.

Just no running. The shoe looks kind of- With no system, that's the problem. It's not like you got plays. You're running plays. And you coming out throwing it. Like, if it was Denver, like, Denver moves faster than y'all. And Denver has a post player that they got to walk the ball down and give it to him.

All right. Like, y'all don't have it. Y'all don't run the gun. Y'all should just be up the court. Because he get it in and go with it. He ain't wasting no movement. So, let's pretend like y'all are Ty L. Y'all should just be up the court. That's because he get it in and go with it. He ain't wasting no movement. Let's pretend like y'all are Ty Lue. How would you approach this Clippers offense?

Start and rush. I'm starting and rushing so we can play faster. And then we just got to go from there. I'm not benching nobody because I don't lose the game in the first five minutes, but I can try to score. I'm telling them I Need a shot up before the 16 minute mark or the 16 second mark with that whole cursor

Terran man back to the bench Russ Russ back in the star. I need I need I need I need to shoot every seat Every eight seconds. We should have a shot up. I Have some of the best one-on-one players the problem is is y'all all want rhythm. They're all ball stoppers. Like, I need more. I need guys who can catch and shoot, quick score. I don't need the new basketball. I don't need a bunch of Jordan Pools

sitting there trying to make a highlight reel every fucking play. Just give me a bucket. Just give me two points. I don't give a fuck how you do it. Just two points between it. As soon as we get it, 24 seconds to 16. to 16 get it score and I'm starting on Powell cuz one thing he will do shoot it quickly and often would you rather have him with Russ I'm just like I would you know

to get that bitch that too but I'm just like he gonna shoot that bitch early and often I'm putting him early and often on power you fuck mm Mm-hmm at all. It's fluorescent green Like when when you see Matt like if people don't really understand what I'm saying watch how max he plays Yeah, right pick and roll go lay up one to lay up one to shot like that's the offense you need That's why he can average that and and beat average 30 30 something you see how Dane plays. It's just then Them highlights shits man That's just cool for a you and mixtapes and shit But that that's not yes, and it seems like no one else is the sixth man now

I'm see talking about moving Russ to the bench with power play 30 minutes in that game. We'll say Westbrook place that I think that's kind of the way they're gonna go cuz hey we won the game That's what they're gonna use to kind of make Russ escape go. It'll hurt them in the end games, but they don't get those offensive rebounds because you don't got the one guy out there hustling. Mm-hmm. We'll see.

And then comes that number that God told you to look up. Oh, ego, baby. Let's keep this thing moving. Let's head out to Chicago. After reports dropped last week that there is mutual openness between the two-time All-Star Zach Levine and the Bulls in finding a trade, Levine is doing his best to force his way out. So he was spotted wearing an L.A. hat after a game last week.

And on Saturday after the Bulls' comeback win over the Heat, Levine stormed off the court as a Bulls PR person tried to get him to do a post-game interview. I think the Bulls were down like 22-1 or 24-1 at some point in this game. Came back, got the dub. He had some big shots in the fourth, but DeMar closed it. Not really sure where this is coming from, but reports are the Bulls' front office and head coach Billy Donovan were pissed at the move. So Levine's averaging 22.5 rebounds three assists this season, second year of a $215

million max extension he signed last summer. Some of the teams reportedly interested in him are the Lakers, Heat, and Sixers, but the Sixers have said the Bulls are asking for too much right now, so they're going to wait and see if they actually need him. Who? Who said they asked? The Sixers. Yeah, six They said they're gonna wait to see they like the with the squads doing right now And if you know you have an injury or some closer to trade deadline, maybe they can pursue it

But as you look around the league and amongst those two maybe three teams which team needs Zach Levine the most? I mean, us Lakers shows, we wouldn't mind having him. I don't mind having him. I don't mind having him. So I'm going to be selfish and say the Lakers. Okay. It's the Lakers and who else? Lakers, Heat, Sixers. But there's always that wild card team lingering.

The Heat. Him and Jimmy and Bam. The discipline, everything that I think right now is his time, his career. I think he, didn't he already say hell no to the Heat? Who, LeVay? I think he said no. I think his camp said no, they don't want to go to the Heat. They said no?

I think so. Well, if they didn't, then I'm going to agree with Brandon. I think he said no. I think his camp said, no, they don't want to go to the Heat. They said no? I think so. Well, if they didn't, then I'm going to agree with Brandon. I think the Heat. The Heat or the Lakers. I mean, but the Heat for sure first. Who need him most? I would say the Heat.

Oh, no, the Heat need him most. That's my next follow-up. Which team would be the best fit for him? Oh, no, no, no. The best fit? Yeah, the best fit. Lakers. Who need him is the Heat. They need help. Help. They need help. Yeah, but they're not gonna do that. They're not gonna make that move. Mm-hmm

He's immediate. I offense Leadership veteran stuff. The Lakers, though, but for who? Huh? The Lakers, but for who? We have them at the two, right? So I go.

So AK. Who? AR-15, he's gone. Ooh. Probably AR. Ooh. Probably Rui. So there's some issues. We're going to talk more Lakers extensive, but there's

some different issues with some of those pieces because some aren't available until December 15th, some aren't available until January. Okay, we got time. We got December 15th, we should talk about that. Three weeks. But I'm saying, if the situation reaches a boiling point with the Bulls, they may just want to just get it over with. What do you do?

What? You want to do an interview? It just seems like they're not fucking with each other. But here's the thing I ask is concerning. Get it over with what do you do? Well, I'm just anyone do it just seem like they're not fucking with each other But here's the thing I asked is concerning. So this year he's making 40 mil next year. He's making 43 25 26 he's making 46 and then 26 27. He has a player option for 49 mil That's a lot of bread to put on them books for dude after 22 points again. Hey man, listen, it's not pocket watching The number I'm happy for that man, I don't give a fuck the number.

I'm happy for that, man. He's a bro. No, what I'm saying is, that's the owner's problem. He a bro. That's not ours to worry about, okay? If we make $100 million in the owner trade, well, good job, baby. We trying to win. Our $40 million is the old $20 million. Yeah, all right?

Yeah. All right, so. He a bro, and I want him to get all his credit. At the end of the day, that's the owner's pockets. They billionaires for a reason. So, not my problem. Just get him over there so we can win. I don't care what you do.

So, let's talk the Lakers side of it a little bit. Lakers 8-6 this season. The Athletics, Jovan Buha reported that they're interested. Athletic, Jovan, the reported that they're interested. Athletic, Jovan, the legend. Oh, okay. Is it Jovan or Jovan? I'm just giving out shout-outs to my folks. We don't even know. Is it Jovan or Jovan? I thought he was calling them athletic.

I thought he was calling them guys. I've always said Jovan. Is Jovan? I thought it was a player that played for the Lakers. I thought it was somebody new. No, for real. Me too. I thought it was an athletic that played for the Lakers. I thought it was somebody new. Me too. I thought it was an athletic... Jovan, hold on. Yeah, okay. Nice little company.

Let me see the dunk. He's a charter, so he's Fugazi, so we're going to call him whatever. Y'all saw that L this weekend too, right? Since we're here, we fighting off for that too? We're putting these right down here. So Jovan, Jovana. He's reported that the Lakers are interested in a potential trade with the Bulls for Zach Levine, DeMar DeRozan, or Alex Caruso.

Seems like all those names are going to be potential options. The Bulls may explore blowing this thing up. So, he said the most likely framework of a Levine deal would center around Russell, who waived his no-trade clause over the offseason. It also need to feature Rui Hachimura or Gabe Vincent as additional match and salary. Another player in either the team's 2029 or 2030 first-round pick with potential protections. So D'Lo's been playing well this season, 17 points per game, six assists, four rebounds. Rui struggled early in the season to find sufficient playing time in Darviham's rotation.

He's been playing a little bit more as of late. Gabe Vincent hasn't played since October 20th. He's been battling injuries. Mm-hmm. So, Gil, I'm going to ask you. I already know the answer, but I'm going to ask you. Should the Lakers be trying to trade for Zach Levine,

and how would he fit next to Bronco A.D.? And I would get rid of Gabe Vincent because he's from Miami anyway, so he don't really know how to play like real basketball You know, you know I'm just saying, you know, he know how to play, you know, hustle ball. He looked like Drake prison rules So he can go right? He's not part of Showtime, right? That's you know when Pat Riley was here with Showtime over there some culture shit so he can stay over there

we can get rid of him she said a Barbara leg and get rid of uh, What's hot? I Was a no say really Give it to him and then we you know, let me daddy, you know, I mean we like lemon daddy But let me daddy can go let me daddy can go because yeah, let me you know, I like AR, you know But for Zack I think yeah, you give up let me daddy for Zack. Yeah, I know, but for Zack, I can, yeah. You give up Lemon Daddy for Zack? Yeah, I give up Lemon Daddy for Zack. For sure. Because at the end of the day, I would still have D-Lo being D-Lo with Zack and Braun and AD.

But if I got to get rid of... You think the Bulls would take that, though? I think it'd be... Hell yeah, how many fucking guards they got over there? And that'd allow Braun to take somewhat of a to your point, the third option role now.

Like I want to keep D-Lo because I don't know if AR is aggressive enough to be the point guard. And then, I mean, why would they need D-Lo over in Chicago? They already have so many guards. You know, I mean, unless they're going to get rid of, throw Caruso back to

us. He was good with us. Now, if you say Caruso, he was good with the guys. So they got Caruso, they got Zero, Wild Hair, Kobe White, they got Kobe White over there, so having- Look like a pit bull. I mean, so Kobe White, AR, Rui, DeMar, yeah, that's good. You got a nice little team. There's no team over there. Right? Finish 10th, they let me- Yeah, finish 10th, they let me get a little

lottery pick, then DeMar get traded over here and then you know You know, then we can see in dealer over there. Then we got the more and oh good. So then who's that the one don't matter Oh, okay, Ron Then you can play the point for real being played wrong Okay, hey, do you feel there 80 still there The Johnson yesterday the fan All that yeah, I don't know if you want to talk about it Gil, but yeah the fan man see that's the problem man Well, y'all see the fan get hurt. I didn't know you had a fan. We don't have a clip on I Don't want it. I don't want to bear some huh? I don't have a clip on I don't want it

I don't want to embarrass her, huh? I don't want to embarrass him. Oh the fan got hurt yesterday shooting the half-court shot Oh, I saw it so it's Achilles. I saw it as Kelly. Oh, oh, yeah I saw that part, you know the bad part. Yeah, y'all know this name was right? Yes. I didn't want why did I did not want to bring this clip to the show girl. Yeah, Anthony. Are you know? I thought it was bullshit. I thought Davis Man, I thought he was pulling the real ad I've had a chance to win 55,000 tricked it he had a chance to shoot a three to make some bread could even shoot the three

Came down by bop. He didn't know what happened, though. He started trying to walk it off. And that thing, he was trying to put his foot up in the can. He looking down like, hold on, what's going on? That's not, yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah. Anthony.

Anthony. Bull. Man, he's better watch out in the L.A. home. And I don't know if it was true or not, but they used to say he yelled out Kobe when he shot him. Nah. That's what I read. Damn. That's what I read.

Don't yell out my name. Damn. Don't say my name. Yo, yo, yo, it's funny. I'm just telling you what I read, man. Well, if you read it, it comes. It probably happens. It comes.

But to your point, Bulls got garbage. Bulls main PG, Lonzo Ball, obviously, coming back from, I think that's kind of what started this whole situation because when he was around, they were actually a good squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some Chicago Bulls. Hope he's doing well. That's why they're hurting right now

though, because they don't have no point guard. If they had Alonzo Ball, they'd be alright. Like Kobe, I mean, he's a he's a scorer type, but you know, Alonzo is so unselfish that it just makes everything work. And he moves the ball, he moves the ball fast. That's what

James did. You need that. Kicking it up. That's what the Clippers, get it kicking it up. You need that. You get it kicking it up. Woo! Kicking it up. But that's what I'm saying. The Colby is a solid backup. That's what the Clippers, you need that guy that sit there and get the ball up court and hurry up and try to score.

Yeah, Colby White good off the bench. Pressure defensively, pick you up, bother you, come in, change the pace, give you some extra energy and stuff like that. But no, you need Lonzo. Yeah. His size too. Zach Levine, clutch guy. We, hey. Rui. Rich Paul, friend of the program. You need Lonzo. Yeah, it's nice to Zach Levine clutch guy

Week a Rich really read of the pro. Hey Rui. I'm sorry. Don't get rid of room. Hey Chicago's a good city for you Lemon daddy. I don't know if the Chicago boys like lemons and stuff like that. But Join the gang we get out there for protection Call a little dirt one of them you good and then Vincent it don't matter. We don't need you. I'm gonna turn your back on lemon daddy already You definitely doing it is perfect going to fit AR-15. It's perfect for Chicago. AR-15. Oh, he.

Woo. Woo. That's the whole streets filled with those over there. Woo. That's one city he can use his real initials. That is the name of him. We been AR-15s out here. Oh, no. See, AR-15, he 15 years like I'll bet more than

Some damn Jersey We just got our limit daddy billboards You're not learning from Karina. Well, they're gonna have it as video and everything just the 15 bulls Yeah, sure AR. So he'll be the new Kurt Heiner gun Well speaking of clutch, let's get it to some hibachi time. Oh There it is presented by underdog fantasy It was a botch. It was fire man the other day It was but see you had to eat it after the show because as you know from hibachi. Yeah, I guess I did Yeah, bubbly, you know, you got to be near facility For yeah, Benny Hannes. Oh

They had the stocky squirt guns a little too much. Yeah, man. I got caught. I said a little too much. Seen a little too much from y'all. I caught it. I thought I was going to start something. It was both of y'all. You got caught too? Yeah. I'm comfortable.

I know who I am. Me too. You were first? I didn't know you were first. Like, we all know I don't play the pause game, none of that shit, but that was a little bit too much. Nah, that's the culture. No, that was the culture. That's the Japanese culture. That's the culture

Saki soccer Just pour it in a cup for me. Come on people I don't mind unfiltered, please. I like they had like guns. That means a lot of people been doing it. No for sure No, that's why I thought it's part of the code. It is it's part of the world. It's part of the show man That's part of the show prior to me being married and happily married my single days a little bunch of females there That's some stuff for that environment. I'm with you But that now is easy for you married, but I'm not gonna let that happen though You know, you know your wife angle seen my girl said

It was just the action of that that I just couldn't yeah that just little too and I try I'm the first one to play No, homo no, no me now in the pause game first one to tell you that but now we're not going We're not gonna do that Y'all my drug devil flagrant on y'all I already drove that flagrant. I just want that was real flagrant. I mean I was I was drinking already So I was like oh I don't shoot it. I don't excuse Oh

They did That shit was our break, huh? It was heartbreaking. I don't about it all weekend The socket number soakers. Yeah, I'm with you. Hey, yo! But for y'all to set it off, though, y'all didn't let nobody set it off. That's why it was funny. Y'all didn't let nobody else go first.

Like, you jump off the porch. Like, I'll do it. No parachutes. My girl was like, oh. It was like, hey. I was like, ah. How's your morning? How's your hey. I was like, ah. It's your boy. Watch out.

I couldn't help it. I bought a new one. V came right up there, Joe, right off the porch. He off the couch with it. I mean, they had me do the, I had to do the egg thing. I was like all part of the show. I was like, ah. Yeah, you were.

Catching the broccoli. I was part of the whole show. I thought it was part of the atmosphere, man. Yeah. Oh, listen. Hey, I'm all for you, man. I'm an egg. Listen, Jack.

And I kiss. That's what everybody like. Hey, yo. No, no. Ah, too late. Man Listen Jack Kiss was like my kiss was like, oh my you can believe you get close to the She came over me with the super so good like this I said I dare you I Dare you up here. I wish you would. But let's talk about LeBron a little bit. I hope he can swim. Yeah, you would have had a loss.

That's probably nobody got through in the pool, but that's for another. Yeah, that's summertime. It would have been cold out there, too. It was cold water, too. Yeah, he was, yeah. So despite being the oldest player in the league, LeBron is putting up absurd numbers in year 21. On Sunday, he dropped 37, six rebounds, eight assists, and three steals on the Rocket to carry the Lakers to another win.

He was out there really getting it, man. It's tough. You see gray hair and a beard. Explosiveness not what it used to be. Still there, though. Dylan Brooks, nice try. Still bear poking And getting these buckets, but LeBron is absolute these past two games to

37 Sunday night 35 a couple games ago Oh Limit daddy his current teammate, maybe former, so. Oh. Max, oh. Oh. Hitting threes in crunch time. Ooh, he got the D-low on. In front of Bronny. Bronny ain't been at the crib in like two weeks. LeBron missed him, so I got to put on a show for my name's sake. He just come home now to get his clothes washed.

Junior. Oh. Junior's Bronny man. He got the house next door. No word. Just to get out the way, why don't you? He at Dylan Brooks. And then my favorite player in the game.

Who is it to? Who is it to? Who is it? Mr. Lemon Daddy himself. You want to trade that? That's a foul too. Y. You want to trade that? That's a foul, too. Y'all want to trade that? Yeah.

Limba Daddy, ice in his veins. Everybody got ice. See? You see the D-Lo effect? Everybody got ice. So LeBron was hitting buckets, but he was also hitting imaginary blunts. We got to show that, too.

Trying to stay younger for the culture. Roll it up. Look at this gentleman. Gentleman of leisure. Oh, oh. Hit it one time. Pass it to Christian Wood. Oh, hit it with the backwood.

Not sure if it was a little backwood or a little swisher. But he also hit the game winning free throw, too. Lead joint. That's good. Lead joint. Arguably my favorite moment from the game. Hit Dylan Brooks with the too small. That's when you poke bears, even 38-year-old ones.

So he got some redemption on Dylan Brooks. The Rockets smacked him a week and a half ago. AD also added 27 and 10. We got to give him some love. But this season, Brown's shooting nearly 59% from the field, which is a career high, leading the league in fourth quarter scoring, having arguably the most efficient season in his career. But after the Lakers went over to Blazers on Friday,

he had a special message for all of his haters. Let's take a look. But I just came here to make movies though. Ain't that what y'all said, right? He's made two exquisite ones, a space jam to a house party. Cinema. For you youngsters. So Gil, I'm going to ask you first. Does LeBron deserve to be in the MVP discussion so far this season? You know what's sad? I know what you asked, but you know what's sad? Is the narrative around who's the GOAT has basically taken away everything he's been doing for the last four or five years.

I don't think anybody's witnessing what, or like paying attention to what's going on. Like there's no superstar ever in our history that has done not even 25% of what he's doing at this age. But because the Jordan, LeBron thing is going on, everybody has been paying attention to all the negative things about him instead of watching history. Like, history.

What he's doing right now has been history for the last three We have never seen this before but everyone's paying attention to who is he better know he's not better than Jordan that they're not even Paying attention to the greatness as it is unfolding Right, you know, so the fact that you even saying is he MVP? Name someone else at the same age that was even considered MVP talk. That lets you know. I think it was wild.

You guys were like two years apart in age, right? Don't do that. I'm just saying. Don't do that. This is not Gilson. He's about to be 39 December, or three years, right? Yeah, three years apart. It's a great day that man was born, too born to FY. I just want y'all to know

That's your birthday move on. Okay, okay Okay, great day, but I'm just saying can you imagine playing at that level at age 38 going into 39? No, no one can cuz no one's done it. Yeah, and no one will And everybody's in here saying we're LeBron glazing and all that good shit. But the point is, you high-level hoopers looking at this shit going on. Because we're... That's the problem. They're arguing actual players who played, right? Like, we're defending basketball players against people who's just watching from the outside, right? You know, like what Jordan did in Washington

at 20 years old playing, I mean, at 40 years old playing all 82 games. That was impressive. Averaging a dub. That was great. Like, I was in a league. We was in a league when that happened. Everybody was, oh, this is great what he's doing.

Where's that same energy now? Yeah. Where's the same energy now? And. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Where's the same energy now? Mm-hmm. And didn't care about the Wizards record. No one gave a fuck about none of that. It was a fair world tour.

It was an amazing time. Yeah. Those two years he came back, if he scored 10 points, everybody was celebrating. And I was like, where is the same energy now? And we're seeing something that's by far even greater. And the fucked up thing is he would have to stop playing and come back for people to really appreciate it and look at it for what it was. And what it is. That's not what it was, what it is.

Like, it's crazy. He would have to stop playing for a year come back and people like And then let him average 20 Then people would be like, oh, this is what are you doing? This thing I Honestly, I think they would still hate I don't think you'll find a way but they were missing Yeah, like they were miss having him like what he's doing daily on the basketball floor. They would miss him. Yeah. Like, they would miss having him. Like, what he's doing daily on the basketball floor. They would miss that. But they don't know it yet.

Then when he stepped away, it's like everybody was watching Mike. Like, everybody, shit, we get to watch Mike. Then Mike stepped away. Like, man, man, I sure wish Mike was playing, man. I sure wish Mike. Then he come back, then win three. Then he step away again. Like, man, I sure wish Mike was playing. Go to the whip is like so whatever you doing else, and I'm just happy Mike out there

Yeah, for those of us who were there because they put a cap on everybody's career like you said they put a cap Nobody can be better than Mike. Yeah, what's the cap on it? Yeah, but it's definitely it is very impressive It is like is this is unbelievable at the age that he's doing it Is it is it in his history? I think everyone hates the idea of greatness Right like we like greatness. We want everybody to be great But if they're too great, we don't like it anymore Right. We don't like the example of this person winning,

winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, winning, and we say, oh man, why is he winning so much? Let me follow how he's doing it. Once they win a two or three, we're like, oh, we need a new winner. Fuck, this is boring. You get bored. I've never seen

people get bored of success. Tom Brady. The winner becomes the villain. How the fuck does a winner become the villain? Like, because the world is losers. Can't wait on you to fall. Yeah, the world is losers. It's a loser mentality.

Yeah. Right? Like, you want this person to be great today. I want you to be more like no That's not greatness like the people who are winners that like like being on top. There's a reason for it Was it max Kellerman that said Tom Brady's gonna fall off the cliff like when he turned like 39 like it was just like he Just kept doubling down each year. Oh, this is the year. Let's go up. This is the year like no Hey, no, he ain't fell off the cliff yet No, like but you like you want to more right? So it's so is that it's like you people wait so they could be like Told you so. Mm-hmm But I mean even LeBron haters take somebody like Skip Bayless whose whole bag is basically tied to hate LeBron

How much are you gonna miss a guy like LeBron when he's done? No, I didn't find a new person to hate. Or you're just going to shift to Ronnie. Yeah. Find a new person. Find a new person. Same name. Got a new nigga to hate on. It's just weird.

I just never seen like everyone's so in a hurry to get someone to the top to eventually say, oh, we want someone else. Like just greatness, let greatness be great so you can follow it. If they find a way, if he averages what he is, and they find a way to finish like fifth in the West, definitely need to be in the conversation. But he'll get some votes. I don't think he'll win.

I don't know, but if he finished four, five in the tough, I mean, he'll let him finish higher. They'll tough... I mean, he doesn't finish higher than that. Don't fuck around with him getting hot to finish higher than that. He keep going like that. If they get Zach Levine, if they get a Zach Levine and enough time for him to get it, gel in before... Mm-hmm. He could finish top three.

Could, and let him come out there, because we all know he can go out there and average 10 and 11 assists easy. Like, that will be his This is just amazes, I'm sorry, that's you're just amazes me man just if somebody wins like Like like let's say Joker won last year MVP right and then he's a runner-up this year. He'd be getting booed Wow, we got him to have another win out. It's bullshit. That's the reason they lost they gave it to somebody else Yeah, absolutely

Who the fuck is tired of success? losers But I think the problem with Joker last year was you give him three in a row now you have to put him in that Condition Conversation this is from a square mentality. He's already in the conversation. I mean, this is just a square thing. Oh you give him three Yeah, he's that's this one's are in the conversation. Yeah, but he's already coming through who has three now what Larry Bird will Who I think will Mary Bird are they in that conversation? There yeah, so that doesn't what should that's all said y'all y'all distorting history

When y'all don't even care about it emotions and feelings and history like because y'all emotional about it Something that that's that that is some weird Bird had it so Wilt had it, but he was never considered a goat Bird had it and he was never considered a goat. I mean... No. At Whole Foods. So who gives a shit? Right. Right?

Two people who... Like you would think that when Michael Jordan became the goat or when we're in the goat topic, the number two and third person would be Wilt or Bird. Never. Yeah. I don't even think Bird is anymore in the top ten. But I'm sure when Bird won three straight times. No.

I've already asked, I've already looked through history. No, he was not considered a GOAT. Because they didn't even create the GOAT until Michael Jordan had it. So that's one thing. He was the Rocky Marciano of the Caucasian. Him and Magic has always been together. Before that, it had Bill Russell and all that dr. J was fan favorite, right? So there was no this is like so when Jordan came he didn't take the crown from somebody's all right

Here we got this new thing going and it's him right now Everybody just be better than this guy which y'all never gonna be so Stop distorting history when we know you're not going to do anything. Like, Joker's no different than Bird and Will. So if he wants to win three or four, who gives a shit? They're not going to put him in front of Jordan anyway. A little information from our excellent staff here. So GOAT was incorporated in September 1992 by Muhammad Ali's wife.

So it wasn't even a word that was in the lexicon. Or if it was, it didn't get officially. By whose wife? Muhammad Ali. And if a man wants to be named Muhammad, goddammit. His mama named him Cash. Called him Cash. 92, when?

September 92. September 92. September 92. Yeah. And at that point, Michael Jordan. September? Michael Jordan was already arguably the best man that ever walked the planet. And he said, well, I'm just going to borrow him. Because he got that after his first ring. It was like December.

They was already talking about it in 91. And then like in January in 92, you know, before All-Star weekend, they was already saying he is the greatest basketball player to ever live. Because as a basketball player, you can watch how he moved and say, this is the greatest. Because the Olympics was that summer, right? The Olympics was that summer. The Olympics was the previous summer. Yep.

Yeah, hell yeah. Barstow. Yeah, no, he was the biggest thing on the planet. Yeah, for sure. And that was, he just, but he just won his second one. Barstow was the biggest thing on the planet in Yeah, for sure. And that was, he just, but he just won his second one. But he was the biggest thing on the planet in 1992. He just won his second one. And as the chat has pointed out, LL Cool J deserves his flowers for creating GOAT.

What? But I'm just, but so. And he's still getting a bag. He's still getting a bag in this NCAA tournament. God bless you, Todd Smith. But at least that lets you know that when they talk about this GOAT thing, they can't reference anything before 92. And that's why they don't like having these fucking arguments with me, because

I, yeah, I do my research more than... I want to show it to you, and nothing but old heads, and you just clowning them the whole show. No, they're going to be like, look here, sucker. Yeah, look here, sucker. I did some old reports back then.

Jack. Jack. Jack. But before I even make statements, I already call 80s and 90s players and 70s players and get the information of what was going on during that time. So I already come loaded, just ready for somebody to come and ready to... Yeah, they'd be getting calls. They'd be like, yo, did you hear that jive turkey Gil talking about you, man?

He talking about me. Did you hear that jive turkey? You know what's crazy? I spend a lot of time traversing these streets, and that's usually how the conversation goes. I get ran up on because of Gil from NBA greats. That man Gil we're talking about. Gil crazy, man.

Yeah, that's all you got to say? Yeah. Man, that boy crazy. That's all. That's all I said when they, man, that boy crazy. He's a good person, man. Yeah, man. I just like poking.

How you going to have an NBA great when the NBA emerged? But my thing is- Immersion in 78, so obviously. That's all. It came together when black people actually was really in it in 78. So basically the best NBA player technically will start 78. So Magic and Bird was like really his first thing. I'm sorry to spoil it for you, but Russell, all of them, they wasn't really considered NBA into like.

I'm going to go. We're going to have to have security at the door. I got to do pick-ups. Higher, lower, how many times do you get ran up on? I'm going 4.5. But that's the problem. It's one of those things where you're pointing out

the history that they don't think you know. I can say this because I know when the NBA merged and it became a full thing of all the best talent in the world, most of you guys' conversation starts after this date. The ones before that,

most of those guys, like the Julius Irvins and Magic and all, people who was in the NBA, they didn't respect the ABA because this is the league. ABA didn't respect y'all because y'all playing against white boys. So when they merged, when it merged, that's when everyone's calculation really started. Who was the best player in the world? Well, unfortunately, it's hard to have a goat if the shit started in the 78 Was what means Michael Jordan really came seven years after the NBA started and that's why he was the face. This is the yes Yes, this is what we need. We need him to get out

to put us Was wild if you can imagine the ABA was busting the NBA's ass, right? But they just didn't have TV distribution. Black guys. But imagine a new league starts, and it comes in and starts busting, like a team comes in just busting Nuggets' ass, but they can't sustain because they don't got the business model. It's like Connie Hawkins, like, destroying people.

Big-ass hands. But as I said, that's why it's one of those things. growing people big ass hands you but but Now you put that but that's I said that's why it's one of those you come to the bed everybody like whoa I Get the digging under that hood and I know Keep shit down Keep it down young fella over there So this last question on the Brandon will move then we'll move on. He's played 110 minutes the last three games. Beginning of the season, Darvin Ham said minutes restriction. So far, it's looked like elder abuse, the way they've been putting him out there

and making him go to work. But as just a Lakers fan, Gil, how concerning is it that LeBron has to play at this level for this team to even be somewhat competitive? Nope. I'm not. No concern? You have no concern? I'm not talking about LeBron.

I'm talking about this team. I told you anything over seven points Well shit now is 20 cuz Michael Jordan anything over 20 points. Whoo And this is whatever he's doing in life, whoa, this is not a LeBron question This is a you niggas need to help me out He can walk at this age. Woo! Shit. This is not LeBron saying LeBron's

going to do what he does. It's what are y'all doing to help my legacy? Who, the Lakers? The Lakers. The other players on the Lakers. I don't pay attention. No, it's not the Lakers. He'll come back home.

They're 8 and 6 right now. You know how it was last year. We doing good. We got a uh. It was like 2 and 10. When Michael Jordan was how it was. We doing good. We got a uh, there was like two and ten When Michael Jordan was on the Wizards, how good were they? That's what I'm judging them to fair. That's fair point. But we said he was going to play big minutes Yeah, so like we've seen our team like, you know, we already said he was gonna have to and we haven't seen a lot of big minutes

Need a move. I mean I was, if he get, if this old man, I'm going to start doing this. If this old man gives us to the playoffs, man, that's dope. I mean, that's like winning a championship.

You know, we start making him old. We start really making him old like they was doing Michael Jordan. Yeah, man, he's old, man. He's really old.

Ron at 39 leading the Lakers to the playoffs. Yeah, 39 leading the Lakers to the playoffs. Yeah 39 leading Lakers to the play I raised the gray hair in the beard. It's just a that's what said everybody's mind is still he's in his early 30s Yes, we got to say it more. You gotta say it more. He's old man. Oh, we're old. We're pushing agendas We'll get him ready by the murder. Yeah, you know 2020 soon as he turned 40. Oh

He's been But his old man doing every time that's old. Look at this old man doing it every time. That's how he do it. Look at this old man doing it. Let's talk about the Rockets a little bit. You've been super high on Alperin Shingun in his third season now, putting up 20 points, 8.4 rebounds, 5.7 assists per game. So what do you like about Shingun's game,

and what do you think his ceiling is in the league? They're already calling him Baby Joker. Do you think that nickname is warranted? Yeah. If you look at where he is in year three compared to Nikola, I think he's ahead in his development and what he's doing for his team right now. I've been saying, like, he played.

They weren't winning a lot. I was forced to watch by default. I like him. I like him a lot. He passes the ball. He competes. He has a lot of Nicola in his game. I ain't saying he's going to be two-time MVP or none of that shit yet,

but as far as his skill set and footwork offensively and passing ability and craftiness, I like him. This is a problem we run into. You're not saying he's better than Joker, but if we do a three-season comparison where he's at season three versus where Joker was at,

no telling where he's going to go beyond that. But you could say, based on the trajectory, he has the ability and potential to get to that level. Yeah, if they stay with the same team, same system, same usage, if they're running things through him still and putting the ball in his hand and making decisions, making play, I think he can average 28 rebounds. I think you can get to that 6 7 assists a night Like I think he's that that crafty with the ball in his hand and you put him in certain situations Yeah, yeah, he behind the back shit dime like he's but they got a team just like how yeah

They do for his for his skill set. Yeah, I think yeah, so would you say he's the best young player on the Rockets right now? I'm a Jalen Green fan. Okay. Don't get me wrong. I had to ask. Let's not get beside ourselves now. I had to ask. I'm not stupid.

No, he's good. Fresno Finest. But I'm a Jalen Green fan. I like Jalen. Okay. I really like Jalen Green. I think he has potential to be a big-time player in this league. And like you said, KJ was over there previously.

You got to watch that squad. My thing with them was always they're not a bad team. It's a young team. There's a difference. Team's getting older now. And don't want to take no shot. I like Steven Silas as a person. They needed a different coach.

He's a great basketball mind. Great for a staff. But he could have been on that staff, but out there for that group. They needed a different head coach Much young guys that needed guidance and they needed some discipline overall for the group. Mm-hmm And said they would like why them first four years ones in first three years that it would have Mounted to playoff appearances not like that, that it would have amounted to playoff appearances and all like that, but it would have looked different had they had somebody else. But Steven did a good job at the hand that he was dealt and being handicapped to a certain degree by upstairs.

But they needed a different voice, I think. But they had a nice young talent with Jabari and Jay Sean still there. Jay Sean's a little older because he did four years. They got some nice pieces but I like Alpine. For sure. Well let's keep it in the West and talk about another young team who's really starting to show what they can do. So the Thunder smacked the Blazers Sunday. But let's talk about what they did. The Dre Mindless Warriors on Friday. Mr. B You were in attendance at the Chase Center at this game How do you feel watching SGA we love stuff on this show but this is my time shopping here come on Andrew Wiggins Check coming through 36 and 10 5 assists

Is there yeah, but we're gonna hit the shot the thing to put them up through you don't think in the games over 36 and 10, five assists. That's a great shot because that D is there. Yeah. Wiggins hit the shot, I think, to put him up three. You're thinking the game's over. Go ahead. No. I'm listening to how you let him catch it, though. That's all I'm saying. Was that a switch?

Yes. Oh, and what? Yes, it was a switch. He was guarding Williams' kid. Andrew Wiggins started on Williams' kid. So let's talk a little bit about Shea, too. Finished the game with 40 points, dropped 11 of those points in overtime to give OKC the win. Thunder have won five straight games,

currently have the second-best record in the West. Mr. B, you were there up close and personal at the game looking at this Thunder squad. Are they for real or are they fugazi? No, they're for real. They're for real. They're on another level right now. They're for real. They're on another level right now. They're playing well.

They're young. And they're playing with a lot of energy right now. So, yeah, they was at the Warriors. They was at them. They was at them. So, I think maybe they'll finish top four in the West. Okay. You know. Finished 10th last year

obviously didn't make it into the playoffs but solid team in The playing game. So you're gonna go from 10th to 4th. I think so SGA first team only be I mean top five for sure. They in there for sure. They're good, man They're like one more piece away, though. They need one more piece. At what position? At the four?

Yep. They need one more? Yeah, they would like to get over that hump hump, but they're, you know, well, they're nice. You got to watch the best chance of some of the Thunder this season. Like one of those great league pass teams. You got to watch the best chance of some of the Thunder this season. They're one of those great league pass teams. You got the terrible Thunder. I understand.

You got to watch some good games for them. I'm watching this shit excited. Don't really care if they win or lose. Just watching some good basketball. They are. I was watching the game live. They're a good, excited team, man. They did right in the draft, built them the right way. Added Shea for him to trade, but he was still, it was like getting

a draft pick when they got him. But it was... Hey, is it the same guy picking in the draft, the one who like brung in Paul George and all of them over there too? Sam Presti. Sam Presti? Oh, he's Presti is people talking about yes, but how he yeah, but how many pics do you need though? God damn you can't keep getting them can't use all of them, but this know what I'm saying Okay, draft ma got you got to get somebody something about for the eye

He has a I am he's he's he's finding That guy in that draft. Yeah, like when you're looking like, you know, like some people you should be like Fuck is you looking at you got good scouts? Yeah, you got good scouts you got good people that work up on you got a good eye Yeah, but people talk about that SG APG train obviously you make that ten times out of ten But it's starting to look like the Thunder fucking smack the Clippers in that trail. They got the best of the deal. I Think so Let's go to the Warriors arena yet. No one that's different

It ain't that oak. It ain't that I think that no, I think that it ain't that Oakland like it ain't it ain't the right Yeah, it ain't that mm-hmm It's more like it's more. It's more corporate now. Okay, that's that's the new word We can just go ahead say shit. It's kind of wet compared to or yeah, I'm not a white white CK is more is more clapping than it is yelling. It's yeah, beautiful Beautiful arena, but they've literally priced out The people that made those games right now, you know, I'm saying like it's not turned up I see this a lot of staples to as a playoff series go on and tickets are getting expensive

My fucking aren't cheering like as a visitor team It don't feel like like it don't feel like they own you like how the old one was like now an Oracle Basketball question. 1.6 seconds. You fouling? Up three? I'm running through the pass, no matter where it is. I'm running through it.

I'm telling you what you're on. On chat. 1.6, you up three. Are you fouling? Yeah, I know what you're saying. Up three. I'm running through the pass. Mm-hmm.

I mean, I'm running through the pass. The ball is in the air. The ball is in the air. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm running through it. I'm running through the pass. The ball is in the air. The ball is in the air. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm running through it. I'm running through it. Yeah. The ball in the air.

Yeah. He has released it, so you're not getting that, but the ball is out of bounds, that foul. You're not getting that. Ball in the air, I'm running through it. As soon as he gets ready to catch, I'm running right through him. Yeah. Foul, 1.6, I'm up three.

You don't lose in overtime. Yeah. You need that win. Definitely. You need that win. You lost what, five straight up to that point? Yeah. Four, five straight? You need that win, I'm definitely.

So you're fouling? You think it's a coach? You're up three? Hell yeah. Yeah. You're fouling? Yeah. I'm the only one, I don't foul. Up three? With under three seconds

only because I've been in a situation where where We had that right what you do is you're up three. Yeah, right me if you miss Game over Right is game over if you miss cuz obviously you got a family We're shooting if you get fouled and there's a free throw you make the free throw knowing you have to miss the next one you miss that next one and that shit bounce the way you don't want it and bad luck hit they hit a three 1.6 seconds no matter that you come off and somebody tipped in it's 1.6 gilbert it was 1.6 seconds when chet shot that shit I get it how much time

you think go happen to niggas shoot a free throw miss it how much time you think point anything no you got to be up on the rim no once it hits the give the ball ain't got time to bounce back somebody to shoot yeah it does the ball don't count at all one point it'll count once you shoot it it counts once it gets hit once it ball come off the rim and there's a boom boom somebody got to be on the rim not you ain't got time to catch the ball get back and shoot it you're getting tapped you don't have time for that shit i don't know i mean you don't know 1.6 i'm looking at the possibility there's no

possibility once you foul you done added another possibility of a disaster gil gil the ball is in the air right soon as you get ready to outrun through, time runs off the clock. Yes or no? When? When you touch the motherfucker. When the ball? Yes. Right?

Yes. So therefore, it's no longer 1.6 seconds. Boom! There's no longer 1.6 seconds on the clock. But it's a possibility. I don't do possibility. There's no possibility. Yeah, it is.

What possibility is this, Gilbert? A possibility of the ball getting hit and so on and so forth. In less than one second because time runs off the clock. Okay, let's try it. Look how many factors I'm kicked in. Can we run it back? No, no. How about this?

There was 1.6 seconds. So let's say you fouled him. 1.6. So you fouled him. And that was 1.6. Oh, wait. Oh, no. When he's out of bounds.

It's coming. It's coming. They're taking the ball out of bounds. It's 1.6 seconds. Okay. Right? And you foul him. Now he's 1.4. You're throwing the ball in. Right here. This is it. You're throwing the ball out of bounds. It's 1.6 seconds. Okay, right and you foul them now

You throw the ball right here. He's throwing the ball in right? Uh-huh, right you bow. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's less than once Oh, yeah So he would have found them already so you're gonna say well I'm running for one 1.4 It's gonna be 1.1. Whatever it is, because it ain't going to be.3. He's already caught it. It ain't going to be.2 seconds and run off the clock, Gil. If you're running through them. .2. Okay, so.2. It's going to be more than.2.

Okay, so 1.3. Can we go back? So now you go to the free throw line. Okay. It's like 1 point whatever it is. 1.3. Now I'm going to show you how many. So three-tenths of a second only ran off the clock.

All right, right here. That's what you're saying. So you're fouling up like what? So the ball is. I'm telling you you how many so three tenths of a second only ran off right here What you say you fouling up like what so the ball is I'm tell it throw the ball You're going through it now okay, so one So one actually might not even be a low it might not even be a foul, but we slow Because we doing it that's right 1.4 1.3 Did Gil so you only think two-tenths of a second

going to run off the clock that fast? He got the ball and nothing went off the clock. Because we're watching it here, Gilbert. What I'm saying is, when do you want to foul him? When the ball is in the air, Gil. So, therefore, when he took... So, now, run through him, right? He got... So, nothing came off the clock.

Time is going to run off the clock, Gil, because he touched the ball. So, if you already... Because we're watching it here. How much you want on the clock? It's going to be a the clock here because he touched the ball. If you already... Because we're watching it here. How much you want on the clock? It's going to be a second. 1.1. Okay, 1.1.

Give you 1.1. Look, we already done 1.1, right? Give you 1.1. Give us 1.1. Just say 5 tenths of a second ran off. Uh-huh. You go to the free throw line. Okay.

You make the first one. Just say you missed the first one. Okay. You make the first one. And you can miss the first one, too. Let's make the first. Make the first. So now you're down two. So you got to make the first one and you can miss the first one too let's make the first miss make the first so now you're down two so you gotta make miss the next one so what how much so they gotta be on the rim you don't have to miss the second one you don't know i'm just saying if

you miss you don't have to miss this is why i say possibilities can happen anything can happen but it's only two shots it ain't three shots no i already made already made one. Yes. I already made one. And it's 1.1. Now I'm down two. Now it's 1.1. Now I miss it, right? Let's say this guy, this first guy, gets the ball and put it back up. You foul him too. That's a possibility now. Let's say you got the ball and you made it.

So there's no resistance going to happen in none of this. So there's nobody going to be boxing out. Exactly. There ain't going to be no other hands up there They said he gets the ball you got time to shoot the shit off the glass and go in gear box You're missing me out the ball bounce your boxing me out hit me and I grab the ball and throw it That's a possibility that just been added So now because you boxing out trying to get the ball and it somehow bounces to me and I tip the ball in now

It's a bucket and a foul So you got time for what somebody boxing you out his hands up there your hands up there He got the inside position all of a sudden you get 10 1.1 to do all this I didn't say nothing can be a tip what I'm saying. It's over tip starts the clock Came on the tip starts the clock if the-Mart. The tip starts the clock. If the ball bounces, I do one of these. You said it tips, so the tip starts the clock. Yes or no? Yes.

So how do you have time to do what you just said? Tip it? No, you said this. You put two hands up there and shoot the ball off the glass. It's one second. Tip it. What I'm saying is... You said you get the ball and shoot it off the glass like this.

Can somebody give me a ball? No, you're saying if he misses it... If he misses it, it doesn't count yet. It's just a tip. If somebody tips it... I'm purposely missing it. Okay. Right? Yeah.

And if I'm in inside position. You're inside position. And I get my hand on it. Just give me the ball, please. And I get my hand on it. It's okay. It's okay. Oh, it's autographed.

It's okay. Right? It's even better. You're touching it. I get inside position. So you're inside position, right? Yeah. He's purposely missing it.

Mm-hmm. Which means he's going to throw it. And I'm stepping into you. gonna step into me in the ball bounce Right the ball bounces off the rim and I grab it and throw we talked about somebody else. It don't matter Yeah, you know cuz it matters. No, let me tell you what happen. There's no K mark in the league Oh, no, you go step in right? Yeah. No one John. Oh, how does that be in John because he's I'm telling what I'm gonna do So you just so that takes no account right? Well, what I'm saying is if the ball don't matter Let's not ball ball. I can't get off the ground again. I'm moving you can't get off the ground again

That's a foul how if they see it they don't give what I'm saying Just been added to the game I played for 15 years, you know, I'm in time like I call for what I just did to you Zero zero, but you just added an extra element to a game. No, you didn't. I don't. Yes. No. Brandon, what do you think?

No, it's a possibility for any of that. I mean, you can foul or not. But even if you do make two, you can still come down, foul, come back. You know, we've seen people. And he can miss the first one. I mean. What would you have done, Brandon? I'm fouling in that possession.

I am fouling. But I do hear if he is shooting it and somebody tip it. And tip it and get it up and you foul him. That happens because it still happens. We lost the game to Mo Williams because of some shit like that. We're fouling. I get both. We're trying to do something in an element.

It's called miracles. I don't want a miracle. I don't want them. I want, like, if you miss it, game over, we go to overtime. Once you foul and then you leave, that means there's more things that can possibly happen in the game. That's how I look at it.

I could, but I'm not. I'm betting on my guys do their fucking job. See, that's where I am with it. Some things be happening. That's what I said. I give, yeah, like the Luka shit when he missed their fucking job. See, that's where I am with it. Some things be happening. That's what I said. Good. I give you, like, the Luka shit

when he missed that. I guess. Luka did this off the ball bounce. Perfect. But it was more time on the clock is what I'm saying.

So percentage-wise, though, you feel like the better bet is the foul. Up three? If I'm up two, I'm not up three with one point. It's less than two seconds

on the clock. I've seen so many times. Like, less than two seconds, I'm fouled. So up two less than two seconds. I'm foul So up to you living with that three I have to okay? I'd Up three man the standard. Yeah, you foul Make me love me free throws with the pressure on I just say I just try to take out as as many possibilities as possible

Yes, I'm the only reason. I'm one of the ones that are like, I'd rather if you make it, you make it. If not, when you miss it, that's game over. The chances of you winning is not actually happening. All you can do is lose or tie. Well, guess what they did? A lot of coaches don't like that, too. A lot of coaches don't like that, yeah.

Guess what they did? Took that fucking L. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. No, you remember my playoff shot against Bulls that happened where we in the timeout and I'm arguing with Eddie. Like, nah, don't foul. Don't foul. Right?

We foul. And I say this. But what if he makes one, misses the next one, then they come back and hit a three? That's exactly what fucking happened. We're up. We're up four. We're up four. No. We're up We're up for rough for No rub three he hits the free throw

Misses the second one hits it the fucking they get the ball hit it the par go par go hit the dagger tie the game over like fuck Because a random random shit can happen. I mean, I came down and saved the hero. I became the hero. But I just look at the possibilities and I try to figure out how to cut out as much. Oh, I'm with you. As much fucking greatness. I try to cut out greatness.

I'm with you. I just look at how much time was left on the clock. You got a rookie. A rookie. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying like do you let the rookie shoot the three? Not message. I'm still filing 1.6. I'm Even though he's shooting great from the line. It's a better chance

I'm going to the line and shit down his leg then I'm getting that turn around the way you did That's all but um, but one point I have a problem with the 1.6. I get your point. Absolutely There's more time. Yes, all about but I have a is 1.6 Yeah, that's real real NBA 1.6. Say that ain't no time dog and you at home You're gonna get that that soon as that ball leave you there. They gonna start the clock You get home home home court love in that situation. You know, like, damn that started fast. We all been there.

We all been there. Like, god damn, we didn't even give a chance. Like, really good little team looking at the score table. Like, so y'all just gonna cheat us that way, huh? Right? Fast as a mother when you on the road, dog. So, I just got a problem with the 1.6. You up three.

Young, hungry team. And we need a win. I get it. You're going to turn around three. You don't think. Andrew Wiggins, Chris Paul pointing at him. Chris telling him. You got to.

If you don't foul, at least get a tip at least get a Deflection and make the ball go out and now they got less time like that was too easy of a catch and turn for him That's good defense. That's great. I mean, no not really It was not about the water bottles guy. I mean a side a lot of sides, you know, my gosh The side guy should have been on that side too. The side guy should have been on that side too. Like, how did that pass just get through that? B, that wasn't good. I'm just calling him.

That wasn't good defense, dog. Nah, he didn't. He didn't affect. He had no effect. That boy 7-1. He had no effect on that fucking shot whatsoever. Even though Andrew Wiggins got the 7-foot, he had no effect on that shot whatsoever.

That's horrible fucking defense. Horrible execution. Whatever they was trying to do in that moment, it was horrible. And you took the loss's horrible fucking defense. Horrible execution. Whatever they was trying to do in that moment, it was horrible. And you took the loss in the fucking overtime. Because them young

22, 23-year-old animals out here, overtime, oh, they ain't got five more minutes than them. They're thinking it's on the bench.

I'm guaranteed. You go get the clip back. Oh, shit, these old motherfuckers ain't got five more minutes than them. Listen. Oh shit. He's old mother. They got five more minutes in him Even even there I would have told even even that situation I would if I'm a player I would have told chat pump fake Because I already know what the other coach is gonna say we're up three he's gonna say no threes, right?

You tell a player no threes, which makes a player now jumpy. You make a player jumpy no matter what mentally. You tell him, hey, no three. Don't give up no threes. So everybody, no three, no threes. I'll pump the fuck out you because I know you're going to jump. Your coach just drilled no threes, so you're going to be jumpy than a motherfucker anyway. Now I'm getting three free throws. But that's just human behavior, right? Knowing that the coach is going to say something, so I'm going to. Even when the coach, when I hear, like, we got a foul to give. Hey, ref, they got a foul to give.

When he's reaching to give me the foul, I'm shooting it. All right, three, two. And just as soon as he reaches in and stop the, I'm shooting already. Yeah, because you can- And this is like little things that you gotta settle. It's basketball IQ. That's all it boils down to, basketball IQ, dog. Yep.

And in that situation- It doesn't really exist in a lot of people. Oh, it's a lot, man. Like, people think because dudes make it to the highest level- That they smart. That they smart. Mm-hmm. Like, no, some of these guys just gifted. Mm-hmm.

Gifted. Hey, handsome and athletic. Handsome and athletic. That's it. A lot of them ain't handsome, so just fucking athletic. We got to give a shout out to the slob wizard, Josh Giddick, for coming through big on that thing. Slob wizard. He said he don't want that to stick, so you can't let it stick.

It was a sideline out of bounds play. He worked his wizardry. Yeah, nah. Let's talk about the Warriors, though. No secret, though, that they're not going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best.

They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. They're going to be the best. can't let it stick. It was a sideline out of bounds play. He worked his wizardry. Yeah, nah. Let's talk about the Warriors, though.

No secret, they're down bad right now. SGA was out here poking a bear. That is Steph Curry on IG after the Thunder win. Let's look at the post he put up. It was basically just a... I was feeling like E-40 in the back, so I had to go dumb. But every clip was literally just him doing step dirty. Give me that.

It's a hell of a block. Back and step down, big boy. Six, seven, hold this. With the janky. The silk in the winter. But let's talk a little bit about these Warriors. After starting the season 6-2, they've lost six straight games. Things are looking shaky in San Francisco.

Mr. B, you've got the tough crowds to have Curry collab in stores now, really holding Steph down through these tumultuous, tough times. What have the Warriors shown you so far this season? They got to figure it out. They got to figure it out. What are they on, a five-game, six-game losing streak right now? Yeah, they've lost six straight now. You know, Draymond getting suspended doesn't help. Gary Payton is second.

He's hurt. So they got to try to figure it out right now. They're just in a slump. You know, it's just one of those periods for a lot of teams right now. It's early, too, so. But once they start to click, you know, you know how it's going to go. And that's why that game hurt so bad, dog. Like, you lost five straight. You think they trash?

I mean, I don't want to say that. You think it's time to make a move? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Are they really trash gear or just just some overreaction I got it. Oh shit here put the notebook out Oh fuck. Hold on. Let me walk the way There's only Steph is playing Steph basketball right now 30 this year 35 and 4 I'll give them last year 29 6 and 6 Right. Mm-hmm clay 22 4 and 2 this year 14 3 and 2. Mm-hmm

That's a big hit. Mm-hmm, right? You're That's a big hit. You're talking about a big hit. Kaminga's playing a little bit better than he was playing last year, averaging two more points. Draymond 8-7-7. This year, 8-5-5. Rebounding and their assist game

is being fucked up right now. Would you say CP3 is messing that up? He's got the ridiculous assist to turnover up right now. Would you say CB3 is messing that up? I mean, he's got the ridiculous assist to turnover ratio right now, but... Like, Steph's assists, Draymond's assists is being messed up where, you know, the ball is not moving as much as possible. Wiggins averaged 17 last year.

He's averaging 12. That hurts too. Right, so you're looking at two guys your second Is averaging six less points in your your third your option is the third options averaging five less points Then they had a guy who's averaging 20 21 off the bench That's gone. He go Right means and who's picking up the slack that that's what I'm saying because curry average 29 last year 30 this year He's not doing anything different

Mm-hmm, you know even though we know shit Curry's doing Kurt. He was doing that last year, right? So you're missing 20 off the bench and then six from clay and in five so you're missing the fucking ton of points 30 Missed 31 points. You missed 31 points. Like, Kaminga averaging two more points, that ain't good enough. Like, your bench, I mean, you know, if you're losing 20-something points, that means the people off the bench need to be in the 16s, 17s. So, last season they averaged 36 per game.

This season they're still sixth in the NBA at 27.5. They averaged 30? Last season. This season they they're still sixth in the NBA at 27.5. They averaged 30? Last season. This season, they averaged 27.5. And so three, I mean, but it's not,

it's like, you know, stat-wise, that's cool, right? But you're missing a lot more points than you did last year

trying to keep up. They led the league, though, last year with that 30 assists per game, so. Like, you know,

you're talking about like, you know, just to make up Jordan Poole. Like, you know, just to make up Jordan Poole. Like, if we just had to make up Jordan Poole, Steph would have to average 35, right? Klay would have to average 26. Wiggins. Wiggins have to average, like, 21. Yep.

Kamingo will have to average 15. Like, I mean, just to match what Jordan Poole had brung off the bench. So, the fact that they lose 20-something points kind of hurts them too. Fuck, kind of. Yeah. That hurts. So with nobody filling their void. So what change would you make?

Like, you know, what change do you think is... I think they messed up when they didn't renew Klay. You don't give him the... It's for the first time he's fighting for something. Right. And his career where everything came off of just not thinking. You know, coming in. He never had really a thought process.

He was more like an assassin. Right? So it's like now he's human in his mind. Like, oh, yeah, fight for this money. And I don't think he knows what the fuck is going on now. We can see him now. You're human now. You don't have the security that you thought you had and I think that's mentally

Self-checking him. So now you know now that just one that one guy has his own defensive player and this is mine I mean was that right account on the wall though with Draymond signing that extension, you know I mean like they've had the ability to extend them and Let them play out this final season Did you feel like he was gonna be the odd man out, I guess? Hey, man, when does that we can sign into the team, when does that kick in? When does that kick in? What?

When the players can invest in the team. Ooh. I don't know. I don't know. Isn't that supposed to kick in right now? The new CBA. The new CBA. The new CBA. You can sign and you can...

Oh, you can do that now? Yeah. So what'd you... I thought, I mean, I would have been combatting half my fucking... Paycheck. My salary. Wait, no, they said they were going to do that or was that just something brought up? No, that was part of the CBA where you can sign, you can...

Let me just, I mean, I'll make sure I'm reading it clear, but it's basically saying a player still cannot have direct ownership stake in the NBA team or a company that owns a stake in the team. Players can now invest in an investment fund approved by the NBA to buy a passive minority share in an NBA team. Okay.

So what does that mean in English? They can't be active, an active player... Can't be? An active player can't have a stake in the team. The Players Association is going to put a fund together if players want to.

Yeah. Okay, okay. So you can't be active. That's how you can combat it, but... So they can only own a minority share not exceeding 5%

through an NBA-approved investment fund. Okay. Active. All right. Let's get it, tough crowd. I mean, it's just, it's just, you come Milwaukee. I mean, with a guy having no security at this age, telling him to go play for your contract, I just thought, you know, you were trying to win, that's the last thing you want.

Big time Klay fan, but does this expose him in his limited offensive ability or his limited? No, yeah, no. That's what I'm saying. This is self. This is a team pulling up a skirt. So this is exposing him, that who he is, who people might have, who wasn't always on his side, might have been thinking. Like, man, shit, he only good because he...

The injuries, the injuries played a big part. No, no, no, yeah. Those injuries played a big part. But it's still that you didn't combat that with getting the skill. If I'm trying to make a move, it'd be a great move with the Clippers and them. To do what, Gil? They need someone to relieve... Oh, they need to catch a shoot guy. Clippers need to catch a shoot guy.

Oakland needs someone to help... Paul George? They need someone to help Kirk. Paul George? This wouldn't even be about money for me. This would be just- See? Like, this is a great pick for me.

Like what I, Kawhi, Kawhi, Westbrook, and James Harden. If I, like Paul George, I ask, yeah, you want to go over there? Because this would be a great, even if it was Kawhi, this would be a great. One of the three, one of them three is a great like a lot Leonard Oh shit, what I'm saying is I know one of the two, huh? One or two you do you think you call the choir Paul quiet Paul? Yeah, well, I'll Paul fits what they do get what they do over go to stay go to say this then clay fits what? They do he does what you need here because he doesn't require dribbles

He's a's the Clippers Are you hanging up on that call? I'm saying I'm done You know if I'm the Clippers, that's what I'm doing because that's what I I need that. Yeah, well Steve Novak at when you need Yeah, that's what I'm saying Like when I'm looking at if I'm a Tyrone Lue and I'm looking at this team. I'm what I'm trying to make James Harden Clay is it I need someone who's gonna to catch and shoot, come off screens, pin down, boom. So I give James Harden that, I'm great. If I give Russell that, I'm great. I need that guy that doesn't require to put the ball on the ground. And then, you know.

I like it. Because there's not too many guys like that in the league. I like it. There's some young guys out there that's making a name for themselves as shooters, but established like that, like Klay. Let's talk about Klay a little bit. Hasn't looked like the Klay of the season in his last

six games, which I think coincides with the losing streak. He's averaging 11 points per game, 31% from the field, 28% from three. I don't want to be the one to ask this, but is Klay washed or is this just an early season slump? Slump. Early season.

I'm saying slump too. Early season slump. I wouldn't be doing my job as a host. I can't say washed. I'm not going to say washed. He averaged 22 last year. I'm not going to say washed. But we're, I guess for me, like those Warriors teams are old. They go up three, they win that game.

That jump starts, puts them on the run. But it's kind of like we're seeing in real time just the switch being flipped on them. These young heads are coming in now. What I'm saying is you don't get washed. I get it. Over in three months, four months. Warriors fans' words, not mine. No, what I'm saying is you don't go from averaging 22,

like which probably was his best year Offensively last year in a sense of score, you know points per game To to this right so what is that? What is the element? That's that's causing this Muffin coming to the arena with I Need to do great. I need you quick. I need a shot like you. You know know I mean you got that on you press I got I gotta make sure I gotta make sure you know they you know my money my money's on the line like this is what it looks this is what it looks like when I want to do is in this contract year and

he's stressing to play very well and you rely on making shot and you rely on making shot and it's not like you're going to the bass getting free throws doing other things to make it easier on yourself post ups and shit like that You know thing is making threes and if you're not then you shoot 29% and we are and we we know as Hoopers He probably in that gym shooting thousands of shots That's that's true that stress is playing defense jeans That stress is guarding him soon as you get out the call yeah gotcha clay was You ain't you ain't making 40 million this year you making 20

Yeah, and that's probably claiming now when he gets on that court Hey, man, look drink your little bud light man Clay listen get you get your Marshawn Lynch on it. Yeah. Just shout old Hennessy. Man, not nothing for real. Get that monkey off your back. Let me go out there and fuck these things up.

Smoke you one before the game, man. When you talking about Clay, Clay, though. Calm your nerves, man. Hit it at halftime. Seven seven straight seasons over 20 points per game had the two years where he didn't play mixed in there But came back after that that season they won the chips after 20 a game last season 21.9. I think was his third highest In his career don't fall off there 14. You don't fall off that fast man. That's just a slump This is a team you know slump that money that contract you know what they need and

Us I like he Von Looney but They need a post player dog that could Because they throwing the ball him in the post and it's really good and put it just for passing Oh, so they so they do this shit like they do with Draymond. They throw at him and do round of these splits. But they need somebody that can actually, they doing it, but who actually go get a bucket.

So it takes that pressure off. Now they running them plays and splits and all that and they know that he could possibly go score this bitch, so you got to play this honest and you got to play the action honest. Can you think of any guys that may fit that criteria? That would be a good fit for that squad not at this. So now it's only one but he cousins They should have been kept the markers they said about anybody should about the markers cousins But like I'm a blade like at this juncture where he was a couple years ago to now The change he made and where he willing past a big man requires you to fucking defend him in the post.

Requires, that's the problem. When you know a guy's never gonna score. Absolutely, I'm not worried about you throwing the ball to Kevon Norton. I like him, offensive rebounds, absolutely. You sitting there, you guarding a dude with a ball like this. Yeah.

All right, where they going? I'm not worried about you spinning, I'm not worried about you turning around and jump shot. Even when you throwing to Draymond, when them two get the ball, it's... Some intriguing names, not saying necessary realistic targets at this point, but Siakam and Embiid but the sisters are playing too good now Yakum just saw names out there. I'm as Wiggins. I'm just on name. Yeah I had to think about it. See how come is what Toronto cuz they play him at the four and a five

nice, though. And B's name previously mentioned, but obviously the Sixers are playing. Yeah, yeah. That was the only one I was going to say. If they would have started out trash, it might have been more realistic. But right now it looks like he's happy where he's at. Still, though, future. I still play B, though. That's the thing about the B.

Alpine Sangoon. Who? Alpine from Houston. Oh, yeah, but they're not coming. They're not coming. I don't know. How much is it? Nothing.

Ricky Conn. Yeah, yeah. Not right now. But if you're the Rockets, like, are you? Nah, Rockets not getting rid of him. That'll be it. I'm Rockets. I'm chill.

You got to give me some thanks for that. He got, he passing it. But I don't know. I'm just thinking of other young beers that surround us It ain't none This and be to me that's the only that I feel like that can run with them that fits I Mean because their offense is guarded

Nobody that dominant. I ain't saying you need nobody that dominant in the post. Just a threat. A threat in the post. Somebody who you know if he get the ball, like, I got to play him honest. Would you make a trade for Aiton? I would have done it. Even somebody on the skill of a Miles Turner. Like, he can get that bitch in the post

and go left shoulder jump hooks and shit. He blocks shots. You got to play him honest in the post. Miles Turner would be a decent fit for that, what they're trying to do. Even trying to score three times a game changes the fact that you're not trying to score at all. Miles Turner. Like, dude, I said if I was ever the opposing coach and I'm coaching against Draymond or Kevon Looney, he's going to have to score 70. He's going to have to score 70 points like this, bitch, dog.

You got to prove to me I'm going to be guarding you just like, there will be no fucking resistance. All my attention is going to be paid. I don't care what's going on with this ball in your hand, man. I'm going to be telling you, be telling you got a drop step right here Drop step you got a job Mr. Overman jump hook and you gotta jump hook. I'm telling left shoulder. I'm telling off in the reach jump hook Good mother dudes too good and good when they was doing it.

But you need something to take the pressure off of every shot that Klay shoots. And I think a post player, Andrew Wiggins is good at his spots where he's catching it, but he's not aggressive and dominant enough. He ain't aggressive enough. And you need, I I don't I'm just Am I the bottom not even damn cat Okay, I was I want the same but you won't because you got him and aunt they not gonna Could you stuck with Rudy let's call it what it is. Yeah

And ain't nobody gonna give you what you need back for Carl Anthony Towns. You're just not going to. But I wanted to say it at first. I thought about it, but I'm like, him and Ant got something good up there. I don't think Tim Conley going to do it. I mean, oh yeah, Tim. Cast name's been mentioned in trade rumors.

Tim Conley's my ball guy. Yeah. That'll be a wishful thinking trade right like that'll be us basketball. He like shit can't be but There's almost a what you got to give up together yeah, and that and I don't think Golden State has the pieces or it'll be a 3-4 team deal and They should have had what about if they were to just sign Dwight he'd have been thrown around the rim yeah man I he started looking at I mean let's say you start looking at little things like that line that could have helped you a little

bit yeah I would I would I would have tried to get the Andre some type of president yeah so we asked again is, is Klay Thompson washed? They're going to say yeah. Chess haters, you already know. 51% say yes, 48% say no. Of course. We've talked about this before. I think before the season we kind of lightly hit this subject.

You said that under no circumstances would the Warriors break up that big three. They would ride it out with them. But now we're in the shit. Six and eight. Steph again playing at an MVP level. You don't really want to waste these moments. He's 35 years old. I don't think it'll happen, but it's like shit.

I mean, that's what I'm saying. If you're not going to, if you're not, internally, if you're not going to get rid of him, then what is the point of stressing your player out knowing that you can see you can see how it's affecting them right which affects your record which affects the ticket sales what affects the bottom line so you know I mean there you know the calculated move like if you're gonna get rid of them then you're doing a great-ass job yeah right you're doing a

great the price down, right? What I'm saying is, that too. But at the end of the day, once you fuck a player's mental up, you think he's going to play like this all summer, I mean all year, and then y'all going to really negotiate in the summer? Yeah. And he's going to be like, oh, yeah yeah let me come on back right I went from

worth 230 to 130 and you think he gonna be happy with coming back then fuck no I'd rather go leave and go somewhere else just to say fuck you that's what's gonna end up happening so whatever you're trying to do right now you know if he's worth

if he thinks he's worth 230 and that's that's what he's going to sign and his play gets his ass down to $130, you best believe you're going to have to overpay just to get him back. Mentally, you're going to have to. If not, he's going to be

on fuck you mode and he'd rather take $100 or $120 from somebody else. He's not going to take $10 more to stay with you after what you did I mean this part of reason why Bob Myers dipped if we really want to get to the bottom of it He probably is getting to that point. I didn't want to have to deal with the these are decisions Yeah with the end the end this This is tough. It's called a smart man. Yeah, I mean cuz I I don't know if they're going to... I'm going to talk on TV. I mean, if this shit keeps continuing,

we might not see the big three go out together. But who knows how this will turn out, but this don't feel like... The Warriors have always had that feel to them during this dynasty era where it was like, they're smacking your ass, but now they're getting embarrassed and humbled. To you saying something a minute ago,

like are they wasting these years for Steph? Do you, people ain't gonna like this. Do you give him the Dame treatment? Who, Steph? Hey, that's, hey. Four rings? That's what I'm saying. Four rings.

I get that, but you don't want him to go out his last three and losing records and that shit. Oh, well then people around him can go. No, what I'm saying is, yes, but if there ain't no takers. This is the thing, it's like, what if there ain't no takers for the pieces that's around him? Then what do you do? You just gotta go out like Cole.

But I'm saying, I'm 60. What I'm saying is, is this one of those, is this one of those things where you hope the business of basketball doesn't take over? Yeah.

Because the business of basketball is like, well, I need to get rid of you guys now to, you know, worry about my future. Or you want that perfect ending where you guys retire here

under one umbrella? It's you. Like, I... We don't want to see 30 go. I mean, your point, what you just said, now, your point, what you just said, I mean... That's like seeing Joe Montana in a Chiefs jersey. It's just... That's what I'm saying.

It's like... It's like seeing Hakeem in the Chiefs jersey. It's just... That's what I'm saying. It's like, ooh, it's like seeing Hakeem in that Raptors jersey. It's like, ooh. It's like seeing Brady in the Bucs jersey though, because that was still hitting. I know that was hitting. Brady in the Bucs jersey.

He won it though, didn't he? It's like Emmitt Smith in an Arizona Cardinals jersey. That happen? I mean... No, but what I'm saying is that let's say he gets traded Like like Emmett Smith in the Arizona Cardinals That happens I mean, oh, yeah No, but what I said is if each look less Yes, let's say he get traded to the if he get traded to the Lakers or something like that Really and he he coming out and he wins a championship

It don't it's cool But if he go to me, but if he go to fucking somewhere where you feel like ah Who's Steph they'll never do man. you think they're doing like that what like send him off somewhere where he don't Charlotte be like pop It'll have to be a dame situation it has to be a grain situation like dame like like Portland look out for day I just don't say is that Denver. I just don't yeah somewhere like that. I don't even think they even do that I don't think I don't think he has it in him, too, to be like, I'm out. No, what I'm saying is, send him to Denver. Ooh, here for Jamal Moore.

Ooh. Jamal, yeah, send him over there. Ooh. Since Steph is not putting on an effort. It ain't about him doing it. Ooh. But what I'm saying is, if you're the team. Just get rid of everybody else.

Talk about movement. And then just let him sit there and just. And just, I mean, we're going to get something. That 1-5-5-1 pick and roll, could you imagine them two? Oh, my Lord. If you're Steph, that's the only... If I'm like... Earmuffs, Warriors fans, earmuffs. I've got to trade you for something.

There's only a few teams that if you're Steph, that your legacy just... It can heighten because you're going to be in the championship race. You're going to be in the winning race. Other than that, if you get traded and they send you ass seen us to one bottom feeding teams. They fucked that that's bad Yeah, if you know, I mean Brady knows that better than all of us. I'm just saying he's not doing that. He's not you know But I don't feel like Steph would ever get to that point no matter how bad I got where he's like yeah, I think shit about day. You didn't hear me

Shit about day you did not hear me say business of basketball. I understand it's a basketball means It's my motherfucking team the one who runs it. I'm gonna fuck what Stefan yeah, it's me mm-hmm personally I'm gonna sit his ass somewhere. So where you want to go? Where you want to go they do stuff if they don't Steph clay and Drake dirty the words would be cursed forever No, it's true. But again, I never So they better relax. You see how it happened in Chicago. So where you want to go? See what the Bulls. You gave me four. Where you want to go? You better be careful. The only way I see it happening is if somebody like Elon Musk buys a team. Nah, but we're going to be a shit.

You niggas can all go. As an owner, you're sitting there with two options. The options is I have to think about my future. So where you guys want to go because I'm shipping your ass out. Or I'm dying with you guys. Yeah, for sure. You gave me four. You raised the price up.

I'm going to just sit for the next five years. Just say this season right here, they get 20 wins. This season right here, the Golden State only get 20 wins this season. Then what do you do? 20. What do you do? 20 wins this season? Mm-hmm Then what do you do? 20 these that these what do you sign play back because you got no that's what it starts right there Absolutely, your shit starts with with clay if you let clay go then then right the wall the other two is like Yeah, if it who you bring back into if you let him go you sign somebody else That's saying you got it. But you got to sign something you do like

It's so if you somebody's better if you get my respect it who's up this year. Oh Them killer boys ain't up until next year So you got to make a trade for somebody to bring somebody in or you got if you let click if you let clay walk You got to bring somebody and that's worth some or you let clay just walk or you go out and blow it up Like like what I'm saying is if you let us walk if clay walks and you can get Paul George Not now you're presenting interesting compelling argument because they're gonna opt out next I'm just saying my notes It's not okay in order prior trades or none of that shit. Now. This is what I'm looking at if I can say, all right, I Don't sign clay back, right?

And I let him walk. And Paul George and Kawhi opt out. Oh, yeah, now we talking. Now we talking. Because now I can say, all right, I'm going to sign Clay. I'm going to sign Paul George or Kawhi, whatever the fuck. And then I'm going to make a trade for Looney and Looney and probably dream on for one other two and bring them over here

That's fine, but you got to get something back if you let clay walk I don't step back, but I never put on the trade them to get us not if I know If I know if Paul George go opt out whatever I was gonna give clay I get the pole. Yeah So we got a comment from uh, damn you got too many names I'm just gonna call him Victor in the chat He's saying like you begin smack worse than the Warriors but y'all won't say the same about the Lakers by his vibes of the the Lakers with the winning record man, what the fuck is his name? Anyway, it's he got like 17 M's and we already said we who we trade

Just really like I already said we who we trade Just rewind. They already said we train really Watch the show daddy And and and that jailbird Play style that came from wasn't danger max with max not max television Gabe Vincent Jailbird. Jailbird. That Jailbird style.

Jailbird. We're going to trade them three, and we're going to get... The Lakers are a winning franchise right now. The Warriors are not. That's what we're going to do. We want to trade. We're going to get rid of them three pieces and get Zach Levine over here. This is a sad combo just to even start having, but this is, again, like you said, the business

of basketball. This summer's going to be wild. And it just shows you that it's coming to an end. And that money coming up, too? Yeah. TV deals and all that shit about it? Nah, hey. It's coming to an end for a lot of guys.

Yeah. Buckle up. You better, yeah. TV deals? Oh, TV deals, when's it going to end? Buckle up. Yeah. When's it ending?

Not this next year? Oh, you better get them three, four-year deals in now. Buckle up. Yeah. When's it ending? Not this next year? Oh, you're asking? It's better to get them three, four-year deals in now. Buckle up. This is a point that you guys always talk about, too, is a lot of times you don't get to determine. They determine when your career is for you, right? You don't get to ride out to the sunset. That's next year, right?

Yeah, they got one more season, so yeah. You're not riding out to the sunset getting your tour like Kobe and like LeBron will get like Steph and KD and all these guys will get. A lot of times that phone just stop ringing. Curry's the only one that can he's the only one that can basically say what's going to happen. But that's what I'm saying.

The only thing you can do for him. How many players we're going to see have a farewell? How many players are going to have a farewell? Of this crew? Yeah, about who's going to end. Braun? Braun, Steph.

KD? No. I feel like Draymond will, but he'll just fist fight every opponent. The reason we don't know about KD because KD might wake up one day and be like, I'm not going to play next year. He's going to Calvin Johnson.

Yeah, he's the only one that if they don't... But does he deserve one? Yeah. He deserves one, but we don't... He definitely deserves one. No, but what I'm saying is... It's three actors. It might be finish of season.

They might be like, let's say, in Iguodala, right, where you're thinking about going in and going back for your next year, and you decide, nah, I'm fucking nah. At the end, like right before training camp starts. KD might pull, he could pull one of those. Okay. But as a farewell, yes. He deserves it. Yeah, yes.

Of the guys who are close now, it's three. It's three. It's three, okay. Who else will be up there? No, that's it. That's it. Yeah, that, just don't get up this of the guys who yeah close now. Mm-hmm. It's three. It's three history. Okay No, I'll be up. That's right. No, that's it. It's just them. That's it right now Dylan Brooks will get one No, no, he he's the only dude that I try to say yeah, this my last My last villain my last run I'm going out just trying to see how many games I can get kicked out Yeah, the Warriors got some yeah, they better hope this season turn around That's my last villain year. That's my last run. I'm going out just trying to see how many games I can get kicked out. Yeah, the Warriors got some, yeah. They better hope this season turn around. I know that much.

We're going to pray for them. And we will monitor the situation for updates. Or you just, do you let, it's tough, man. Let Steph ride it out, man. And that's the thing, do you let him just come out, you have to. Shoot it 25 times a night. Let's just write it out man. And that's they do you Come out you had a new Cuz shoot a 25 time because also he's only I think he's the last player to right now to still just be with his team That was wrapped it I mean no From that caliber, but that's what I'm saying. You got three people who's like that's what I'm saying Your legacy go to state legacy is the three. So yeah, it's like

One make one decision this summer affects everything else. Yep This decision is summer with clay affects the future of the gold This summer is about to be fucking wild season and this summer. That's what is Determines the next how many years for that's why I said if I was them personally, I'm looking at when I got these three, my four championships, and how much

they made me in equity. Yeah, yeah. To the point where it's like, Yeah, I don't think this ownership's doing, they're letting these dudes, we're going to be It was like,

all right, boys, you guys did your job, I'm going to ride y'all until y'all retire. Hopefully y'all retire at the same fucking time. I mean, all right, boys, you guys did your job. I'm going to ride y'all until y'all retire. Hopefully, y'all all retire at the same fucking time. I mean, all at the same time or within one of each other. This is my last contract going around for you fuckers right here. And then y'all can go on farewell, at least retire one year, come back if you need to.

Or just say, yeah, I got two more years. I need Steph to hit him with the breath of fire and just keep coming back. Man. I ain't ready to leave. Do the dirt on him? I ain't ready to leave. Go play for Sacramento. Then he go play for the Lakers. Then he go play for Phoenix.

Just keep it all on the West Coast. He ain't trying to move too far, though. Oh, damn. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Tomorrow, in the spirit of Thanksgiving, we're giving away prizes to our fans based on how many tune in live to the show. We're calling it our Thanksgiving giveaway. So if we get 15,000 viewers in the live chat, someone's getting a free pair of Adidas courtesy.

You know Gil got the Adidas plug. There's boxes upon boxes. We're already having a draft here prior to the show, picking which ones we wanted that we're not going to allow you guys to have. We got some hards for y'all, some trades for y'all. You're not getting the ants, so don't even get your mind fixated on it. If the chat gets to 20,000, someone's going to get a signed ball from the Gills Arena crew.

25,000, which will be a new world record for Gills Arena. You get a Tough Crowd starter pack, courtesy of Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. If you know quality material, you see us wearing it all the time. Very baller, luxurious. Get your fit game up. And if we get to 30,000, Gil will give you one of his kidneys.

No, I'm just kidding. If we get to 30,000. I thought you said kids. I was like, ooh, I'll be on Chops and Boyd faster than I can do it. You can have it. You're going to get the youngest one. You can have it. I mean, that's a good one.

I mean, he's talented. So, you know, you're gonna have... If we get 30,000 viewers in the chat, somebody gets one of Gil's signed jerseys from an athlete to be determined. You can't see the signed jersey well, but we got KG. We got LeBron football jersey.

We got AI. We got Scottie Pippen. Hold on. Don't lie to them people like that They might get one of them. It feels like we go to the carnival. You're not getting that big-ass prize, but you can look at it I mean you can get one of them, but I did bring, I brought something. I got Ray Allen all-star I got two Ray Allen all-stars. Sharunas, Marcellones, who you got? No, no, I got all-star players I got a, I think I got a T-Mac all-star. Okay

Listen, that LeBron football jersey is the hardest. What else I got? I got a T-Mac All-Star. Okay. Listen, that LeBron with his football jersey is the hardest. What else I got? Oh, you remember back in the day when they did the 50 greatest? Yeah. They had all the cards, and then they had everybody's signature?

Yeah. I'm giving that away. I don't like none of them anyway. You can give that right to me, Gil. I don't like none of them anyway. They old. Put a to me, Gil. I don't like none of them anyway. They old. Put a trash bag on them. I don't want none of that old shit.

All right, I'm new school. I want the 100 so I can see people I play with. And Gil, you got the ball here. You signed it. Everybody on the show signed it. Wait, everybody, we got the crew coming in tomorrow. Yeah, we got two, we got four. Let's go.

Maybe we just need two more. Meshia Alex will sign tomorrow. An autographed Gills ball? I think, you know, who wouldn't want that in their collection? It's like a Babe Ruth ball for my Sandlot fans out there. Close enough level. But let's keep this thing moving. On to Mostly fans. Oh, yeah.

Ooh, I got a good one. Hey, excuse me. Can someone go get that magic and bird? It's in the trash can. No. It's fucked up. And we're doing a special show tomorrow, so everybody in the chat today, we're going to remind you tomorrow, but

please send us your best Thanksgiving theme questions. We're going to do a special Thanksgiving segment for y'all. Tomorrow? No, we're going to tape it after the show, because you know we're on vacation after that. So I will see y'all niggas when I see y'all. Wait, I'm working after? What job?

Oh, what is that? He's actually going to go down his house, too. Yeah. It slipped off. I'll be having shit in storage that I got to put it back up. But I don't know what you want to give this one. But yeah, this is Larry Bird Magic. They signed it. This is upside down.

I think, well shit, if Josiah shows up to work tomorrow, he should just get that as a special gift. Yeah, so yeah, that's going to be in there. I don't know if you want to put it at what, $25,000 or $30,000. Is it $30,000? We already at $30,000. Maybe $35,000. I like $35,000.

$35,000 in the chat? $35,000. Chat, chat. Tell your friends. Tell your aunties, uncles, cousins. It's dusty. That's all. I kept it in there.

It's all storage. Don't be. Don't be. Oh, we're going to rob you, Gil. You got too much stuff. I told you I don't like them ADs playing. They sit just where their ass at in the dust somewhere in the dark. Somewhere in the dark, dusting.

Those of you who have never come to Gil's crib, there's a general rule. If you see any boxes laying around, that means it's fair game. We all wear the same size, a few of us out here. So, shit, let's go come up, man. And you will see it on future episodes of Gil's Arena. For sure. The key is you got to wait until long enough for Gil to forget that he had it, and you can rock it on the show of gills arena for show the point the key is you got to wait till long enough For good I forgot that he had it

You can rock it on the show. Oh, you just ask for Are you doing my side? Show you what's not sure you were your size. All right, so first question comes from See this is a complicated ass name. It's a, oh, there it is. The one you love. The one you love. Oh, I took that stuff. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

When it's all cumbered up together, what the fuck am I supposed to do with that? He's the only one that's going to get, he's going to get caught with like these nuts and shit like that. He's going to get caught. Yo, why you think I spent 18 seconds just staring at this shit trying to make sure it's not nothing? They're trying to see who's going to get caught, y'all. The one you love how long you guys think the Timberwolves can stay in the number one spot in the West So they're currently nine and three. Okay, sees ten or four and the Nuggets are nine or four But Jamal Murray's been on Chile Gonzales for a little bit Until Jamal Murray come back

It's not it's not a It's not a spot you want. Yeah, because it don't matter. For you. Their next five games, they got the Knicks at home, 76ers at home. Actually, that is the spot they want for them. Because they play like a real eighth seed versus like being seventh or sixth and five and have to face one of them dominant teams that's struggling right now.

The West is like, I mean, you know, with that West playoffs, we're going to be looking at it like we was looking at it last year. Like, oh, shit, this is about to be some good-ass matchups. We're going to see what Adam Silver's really about if he really got that David Stern in him because we need to puppet master these matchups that we want. They won't be number one by New Year's. Okay, fair assessment.

So they're not making it to 2024? No. Not at number one. No. Not at number one. Yeah, I agree. All right. Question number two from underdog user KM91.

Should the NBA Cup for the in-season tournament be treated like the Stanley Cup on hockey? Should it be only one trophy and it has to be passed around? A team has to take it from the Winner the previous year and not they're making a new trophy every year much love fellas Damn so should I like it just one trophy? There's one trophy you pass it away and everybody keep putting the names on it put the year on it like that Now I get no I got getting on I like I mean Why we get, why do the players don't give a fuck? Because it's not like they get the trophy.

Oh, just to actually, oh, yeah, yeah, that's fine. You put the year you won it on, put the shit in the trophy case, and... So, I mean, the trophy had to be bigger then. It has to be big. Yeah, because you got to put every year. You're like Stanley Cup. Yeah, so that means they have to redo the trophy. Yeah, make it, yeah. You can make whatever.

Like, trophies, like who? That logo, whatever that shit they say that you're going to win, make that motherfucker the size of a sixth grader. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Our last question is a video question. It's from a human being who has not yet decided to join the underdog fantasy team. So no bread for you, but we will show your video question, but you get no bread. What's up, Gills Arena?

Cincinnati boy hair and name, man. Listen, shout out to Kenyon. Rashad. Mr. B, Lexi, you, Gil, Joe, I want to know who's the sixth man of the year. Open my eye up, man. It's been a long day, man. But who the sixth man of the year from now?

I had to redo the video because I had no shirt on, man. I didn't want to let all that out, man. Salute. I didn't want to let all that out, man. Salute. I ain't want to let all that out. Baby, you got to respect any man in the polo room. Okay, I got one question for him. Are you like 7'8", or is your ceiling 5'6", 2"? It might be a combination.

No, I'm trying to figure. I've never seen here right is that the basement or is that the attic? Like how small is his head? If you got this tippy toes or he got excited head through the ceiling the man got the Ralph Lauren Shit he done top on it and everything Now he definitely down in his basement or something. Yeah, okay. You got the Ralph Lauren robe on you got a respect to Small people holes in a small people community How do we get we get in the eyes on the six minute a year six man in a year right now is the leader is Him Tom the leader is Tim Hardaway jr. Emmanuel Quigley Austin Reeves Cam Thomas Westbrook is on there Malik Thomas yeah

he come up he's on he came up I'm just telling you going with the numbers Cam Thomas from they just try to steal money with that one I'm going Timmy but he only what he only came up the bitch one game right you came off the bench one game. Right? He only came off the bench one game. Yeah, I'm just... I'm playing with the... Okay. Cam Thomas or Tim Hardaway? They're just going to steal your money because he's not going to win it.

Yeah, Cam Thomas, the one who's averaging 29. Yeah. If he keeps that shit up, he coming off the bench... He's starting now, though, so... Yeah, he came off one game, so... Well, I'm going Tim Hardaway Jr. Huh? I'm going Tim Hardaway Jr. I mean? I'm going to more away. I mean for the yeah

I'm going white chocolate Austin Reeves. Mr. Libman daddy himself Who's gonna stay in LA cuz he will not be included in the Zach LaVine trend Westbrook Westbrook might win seventh man of the year award. That's how the Clippers bought the dome Which is Jack I'm gonna do seven man in the year More struggling Chris Paul your gory nor pal Brogdon Nah Timmy come hard way junior. Yeah Junior junior. Yeah, junior junior. Hey Roger. We appreciate the video email us If you want your bread. Hey, man.

Hey, can y'all see me? This is a... His name's Roger? Roderick. Roderick? This is literally how he look. I swear to God. What's up, Gil's Arena?

Hey, man, like, this is really, like, where? Everybody don't got high ceilings Where the lowest is eight feet, right? You know, you're gonna be done Yeah, now here's the little people's home. I know what you do I know you do a rod me boy over there get there then reduce rate on that rip I know what you do it boy reduce rate he day you. I know what you do it boy Just read he gave you one of those little people's

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