Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down Draymond vs Jordan Poole Pt. 2

Episode Date: July 19, 2023

Gil's Arena is LIVE in studio today breaking down everything that went down in Vegas at Summer League, the latest in the Battle of Draymond vs Poole and all the NBA rumors surrounding James Harden and Damian Lillard. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:00:35 Talking NBA Summer League 0:05:55 Embiid Wants Out?? 0:18:01 Tyrese Maxey Building Block? 0:35:57 Will Harden Be Traded 0:39:27 SHOULD THE CLIPPERS TRADE FOR HARDEN 0:52:47 Should The Heat Pursue Harden or Embiid 1:00:13 Suns Add Bol Bol 1:04:15 Gil Told Lebron To Recruit Bol Bol 1:27:53 Draymond vs Jordan Poole Round 2 1:41:55 Mostly Fans 1:57:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Damn, and we got Rashad my kids here. I fucking dare you die fucking dare you to We back in the studio new studio we got new graphic Just for the record people take a 10k was before break you got to renegotiate with me like me We We're in the first season. I got all season one in the first season You got to give me a sub bill in the first summer. You got to give me a summer a summer thing Okay, well he said break he didn't say to him. He said we gonna break. Yeah, I think a 15 15. I hit the blunt bet 15 15 thousand you have 15,000 and the 10 first blunt. 15,000. We got to hit 10 first. I know. We can hit 15. Too late.

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We got big things in the work for y'all, so stay tuned for all that. But here's what's cooking today. Suns were on point with their off-season moves, but who running point this season with campaign and CP3 gone? Mm-mm-mm. Harden playing hardball with the Sixers, but it's Joel Embiid. Eyeing a change of scenery as well. And, damn it, we still talking about this punch.

Draymond. Still talking about it. Jordan Poole's daddy stepped in. It's a big deal. And clapped back, stepped in it's a big deal and clubbed back so even KG catches strays but before we get

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Hey man, to be honest, you said a lot of shit there. Hey, we number nine in basketball podcasts though. Who is ahead of us? Top ten? I mean, groups that's been, I don't give a fuck

about who's in front. I just know we nine and we need to keep going. We coming for y'all. But we live, number one, we live. This is live basketball.

It's only us. Yeah. We know what. We know what. Like, people are like, yo, your podcast,

like, no, we're live. We're live. Are we a podcast? No, we are a video series. We're a video series.

We created our own shit. We got our own fucking lane on podcasting? No, we are a video series. We're a video series. We created it. We got our own shit. We got our own fucking land. Shout out to the other eight ahead of us. We coming for y'all. Y'all know what it is. Prepare. But let's talk a little bit about Summer League.

If there's one thing we learned out in Vegas, is that NBA Summer League is turned up like an oven. Over 140,000 fans pulled up to games over the 11-day event. I don't know if y'all went to any games. We didn't get credentials, so I boycotted just watching on TV. Not rolling with the league. Free tickets for Gills Arena, please. Ah, man. We got the plug from the win in the encore. Did not get the invite to the game. That's neither here nor there. We got our first glimpse of Wimby in a Spurs uniform. Got to see the

next generation balling out. And we even witnessed Isaiah Mobley, Imani Bates, and them leading the Cavs to their first chip since LeBron. Summer League Championship, it counts. They get a ring. Jason and Beverly Hills, shout out. So according to the NBA, this was the second most watched Summer League ever. The first being 2019 with Zion. I think that was with the earthquake and Kawhi and all that shit was going down.

And did over 800 million video views on social in the NBA app, which is a record. So NBA All-Star Weekend used to be called the Black Super Bowl, but Summer League is giving it a run for its money. So Gil, we'll start with you. Is the first weekend of Summer League better than all-star weekend hmm that's hard for me because I never went out for all-star weekend I said I said in the room and then usually it's in some sorry ass cold-ass cities that nobody want to be in anyway so I'm just going just on just the thought of it give it to Vegas because obviously you got more celebrity showing up to the damn all-star. I mean to summer league. Did they do all-star?

Ready what you think? Yeah, I'm gonna go with summer league, too Just cuz you like you said everybody's there. It's in one spot All-star weekend. I think all-star weekend is just for guys who are all-stars Like if you're not really an all-star you're not participating in All-Star weekend. It's kind of like no reason for you to go. And it's usually cold. I still haven't seen Jay-Z or Beyonce at Summer League, so I wouldn't say the Summer League is bigger as far as celebrity-wise.

But, yeah, you do have all the young guys. I'm NBA. Yeah, as far as NBA players. But, yeah, I'm in be a far as NBA players but yeah, so Gotta go all-star you so roll with all-star. Yeah niggas and hoes Everywhere they like city they coming. I like they getting on planes. They getting on trains. They didn't chicken on automobiles Take home a short eight here. You can't miss that. Okay miss that, man. And then it's too fucking hot in Vegas, man. Sometimes it's just like you can't leave the hotel.

It's just too much. So, last two All-Star games. Cleveland. They got nothing on, though. In Vegas. Did you see them running through the... They was. I'm about to say Vegas.

I mean, but Vegas is for like, you know, like the youngins. It's for like the youngins, really. No, it's for the youngins. But you know who got the game? MJ Party, though. I didn't have no cash. That was a problem. Cash? Really the problem are the young gins and but you know, you know who got the game MJ party though I didn't have no cash. There's a browser problem You can't stop them Them 250s media way to 50 right to

Holes in Vegas, I'm on this niggas and bitches Come on the Vegas strip is a lot way better than Indiana going there. Come on, y'all. How much? It's the private party. How much? I know you got to work tonight. I see you on the fly. I see you on the fly.

I'm going to meet you. I'm going to treat you. Already off the road. The last two All-Star games, Cleveland, logistical nightmare. No direct flights No uber like 45-minute wait we stuck Salt Lake City janky air. We've already talked about it musty white people everywhere Caucasian hotbed no bunnies You got the love but the one one thing I'll say about Vegas Vegas like you know

You talk to the cab drivers and uber drivers and they're like, yo, it's just a regular for us. It's not this might be a big deal for y'all this ain't shit for us We've seen much bigger and better, but I think Vegas got it better weather easier logistics More options turnt up and you get to stay at the winning encore if you have the plugs like we did with gills arena And you get that gentleman's cut And I know what we do. I know what we are gonna do Next year when I'm telling you now we are throwing the first Party on that Saturday at

The Wynn Hotel to start off summer league. You know how like Kenny Smith has his party shot got us all that's what I'm Jordan got their shit. Yeah. Gills Arena, we're going to shut the wind down. Tough crowd. That's going to be tough crowd. Tough crowd. Gentleman's cut.

And if you have underdog fantasy, as long as you got the app, you may be able to get in. Maybe for free. We'll see. I'm trying to tell you, we're shutting that shit down. Yeah, I think All-Star next year is in what? Indiana? It don't matter.

It don't matter. Indiana. Nobody know. It don't matter. Man.'t matter. Indiana. Nobody. It don't matter. Man. Not a terrible place. Just told them. Indiana, Cleveland, Massachusetts. San Antonio.

Just do it in Vegas. So what was your favorite moment from NBA Summer League? To be honest, you know, as Hoopers, for me, I think when Zion, Zion came in just off the spur, just seeing us and just naturally got happy enough to come walk on our set.

That, to me, just, you know what I mean? Like, you know, and we talk shit. Yeah. You know, and the fact that, you know, the respect of, like, yo, you know, they've talked shit, but they've talked good things about me. It's honest. I feel comfortable enough to just walk in on a live set. It's crazy. During everything he's going through.

Yeah. I mean, that's... To be honest with y'all, I'm a little nervous. I don't know what was going to happen. He came in there like, D-Bo. Nah, because the window. That window. Hey, all right.

Smile, man. Because we've seen him. Yeah, we've seen him. We was like, is that Zayad? No. What was we just talking about, this nigga? He about to come in here? Gil, you all Zion? What was we just talking about, this nigga? He about to come in here? Gil, you all right?

You ready? For me, that was... Brandon, how about yourself? Man, for me, of course the podcast. Me being able to see old friends, old teammates, old coaches. I got a chance to spend time with Tyson Chandler. And I was his ball boy back in the day. And just being able to roll with him, just going to Delilah, just smoking cigars.

Like, you know, just catching back up on old times, you know, was good for me. The Long Islands. The Long Islands. The Long Islands was off the chain. That Chinese restaurant in there. That 8-Eight was fire. Yes, sir. Yeah, man, I think Slam Ball was fun.

And just, you know, a working weekend for us, though. Like, you know, I think that's what I enjoyed much was the working, you know, just being busy, going there for a reason. Having a purpose is always important. Rashad, what was your favorite moment from Summer Lee? Well, I want to take this time to retract a couple statements. Uh-oh. The Greg Popovich bad coach statement I want to retract. Ooh, that means Greg walked up on him.

He didn't walk up on me. He didn't walk up on me. It's just the energy of knowing that that was a take that was taken out of context because the bad coach is that I expect more and I don't think that he had lived up for my only expectations of him being the coach that he was. And I was over critical in the moment and I just wanted to retract that. He's an all time coach, you know what I'm saying? And I think that just with the last six years, I expect more. Just roy williams with you know less talent you got to be able to produce more

or at least give those kids an opportunity to believe that they can be great players and i want to also retract uh bumpy darvin ham yeah we saw darvin a few times uh i'm not gonna be critical of anybody calling them names and stuff like that because he could have did some shit I didn't know he was that strong. I'm like goddamn The handshake L he Damon Watch out real watch out He was at the b-bar like yeah With the David you with the diamond and um and then just the Austin Reeves, you know his 54 me be able to say, you know, he wasn't worth that and I

Feel like I was trying to give him a bar to reach to go above that and I think they they gave him 54 and they should have gave him more. Yeah, he took a discount. He did. The Lemon Daddy. The Lemon Daddy. The Lemon Daddy. But I feel like, you know, if he could stay at the pace, you know, he can become what they expect him to become.

You know, Luke Walton Jr. Yeah. You know, he can do some things. He can do some things with the Lakers. But those are the things that I wanted to clear up because the energy down there, especially with me, was different. It was definitely like a high school reunion. Definitely old people I ain't seen 15, 10 years that gave me love and embraced the show. And I appreciate y'all giving me the opportunity to be seen in that light, to be able to go back and rekindle some old relationships,

get some numbers. But, you know, Greg Popovich, I fuck with you. Hey, man. Now that we got that out there, I ain't apologizing no more. No more. Hey, man, hold on, man. Y'all was out there getting deep old, man. Nah, we're getting deep old, man.

Hell no. It's just the energy. It's just the energy. Darvisham was rolling around the wing in the encore. The energy was cool to me. The energy was fine. In the LA hat, like straight through. Somebody won't smoke with you though.

Yeah, I want to go into season two with a clean slate. Somebody won't smoke with you though. Better be known. Yeah, you was dug in that smoke. That's the only smoke I felt. I was like, oh, it's getting serious. I wasn't even off the plane yet. Nah.

I wasn't even off the plane yet. He was looking for you, nigga. But you know, to be honest, like like it really puts us in real perspective on um how much people fuck with us and they actually value what we're saying like i had monty williams come up we was in a weight room um and i i think i was against him no no well i wasn't against his money i was against him just why they hired him for that small team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he was just trying to explain to me about just loyalty itself.

And I was like, yo, how are you a coach and you don't have no safe grip? You're getting fired. And he was like, you can't think of it like that. You really have to think of it like While I'm here. I got to put the best product on I got to be the best of me All right, you can't worry about you know, are they gonna fire me now? You can't coach like that You just got a coach. I have it today. This is what I'm gonna do with it and then move forward So just you know listening to you know, some of those guys

That we've talked about, even Smile and do all that, it kind of really puts us in a different light. They don't look at us like... The love was real. I know. They don't look at us like the big media that's just attacking them because they know at least two of us is going to like one.

You know what I mean? So we're batting about, you know, 60%. Yeah. Shout out to Jamal Mosley, too. Orlando Magic, Willie Green, you know, show love. Like you said,

like I might need to come up there and say something to you like that, but Jamal was, you know, we used to do GERD camp, and he was the guy that was just out there defending all of us, and now he literally

the head coach at Orlando Magic. He was my coach in AU. That's crazy. I mean, they ain't want to run up on me anyway because they ain't know. I mean,

you know. That blicky. LA and, you know, LA and Vegas is like that. It's right around the corner.

You got to watch yourself out here. So, let's keep this thing moving. We back, ladies and gentlemen. If y'all thought we was going to change, we were not. We back, ladies and gentlemen. If y'all thought we was going to change, we were not.

We is not a fucking... The truth is, there's four of us. I mean, we could probably whoop Darvin Ham's ass if we all pulled our collector. Oh, man. Like the Avengers against Thanos. Nobody get the leg. Somebody get the arm.

Get the glove. Don't let him get the glove on. If he get that 90 proof step hat, nah. Dude. Mr. B. You see what happened to him? Spider-Man right there. I got an off ego. You see what Mr. B Spider-Man right there you see what Mr. B came out

I got a lot of smoke Chris Paul fuck him so talk a little bit about these Sixers Sixers may have some problems and situations on their hands with their dynamic duo of James Harden and Joel Embiid we'll get to Harden in a second but let's start with Embiid

during an interview with Mav Carter at the Uninterrupted Film Festival last week, Embiid kind of raised some eyebrows with some comments he made about winning a championship. I just want to win a championship. Whatever it takes. I don't know where that's going to be, whether it's in Philly or anywhere else.

I just want to have a chance to come to Pichon. I want to see what it feels like to win that first one and then think about the next one. It's not easy, but it takes more than one to three guys. You've got to have good people around you. And, you know, myself, you know, every single day I walk hard to, you know, be at that level. So, I can put you to make you happy. So, obviously that Philly or anywhere else comment. One little question. Well, he's with the Sixers until at least 2026 when he has a player option.

The deal's through 27, but he could become a free agent 2026. So Embiid tried to deflect a comment with the following tweet. Somebody said that somewhere else was unnecessary, to be honest. Embiid said, buddy, check my middle name, Terrell. So claimed he was trolling. We don't know. But what we do know is Embiid's coming off his first regular season MVP, but left much to be desired this postseason

Sixers got bounced from the second round for the third straight season So Gil start with you what messages Embiid sending the Sixers By saying whether it's in Philly or anywhere else. I mean he probably seeing a writing on the wall. I mean There hasn't been any real progression with the team. No matter how great he's playing, they haven't. I mean, they've had talent. I think really the Jimmy Butler, not signing Jimmy Butler back, kind of stopped him from moving into that next level because obviously we see what Jimmy did with Miami.

Imagine if he had Embiid and Tobias With him right, you know, they they pop possibly will be having a champion This probably would have been their championship this year. Um so Looking at Where they are now James Harden who goes if he doesn't come back. He doesn't want to be there anymore You know, you got a guy who's just sitting there like, what the, what are we going to do? There's no room for him anymore.

So he's, he's on that, he's on that fence too. Like, hey, it don't, you know, it don't matter. You know, I just want to win a championship. You know, you can, we've heard it all before. What happened to trust the process? I'll be tired of these niggas falling back on their words and shit. You know what I'm saying? First you duck the Joker shit, then you

know, second round every year. Trust the process. You got guys like Jimmy Butler, James Harden on your team. You had an opportunity to get out of the second round and you didn't show up in fourth quarters. And what Gil would always say about Embiid is the motherfuckers lazy If he was in tip-top shape to deliver at the top notch of the game, which is in the fourth quarters

Take him over the fucking hump. You wouldn't be having this conversation about oh I just want to be in position to win a championship and I you in position every fucking year You playing the way you play every year. So why is it that there's an excuse when you don't hit your mark? You say trust the process. Don't leave Philly. Keep that shit going until you get there because that's what the process is called. That's what the definition of a process is.

Continue to do it. Don't give up on it. So you've wanted the crowd in Philly to stay with you because you are saying you're in the process of doing something. So keep that fucking energy. Now you're talking about, oh, elsewhere,

man, fuck all that. Philly ain't trying to hear that. I know Philly ain't trying to hear that. I mean, I agree. I mean, I agree. Hey, it's what you wanted. You got your MVP. You got your MVP. I mean, I forgot he won MVP. We all did. But now that we talking about him, it's like, shit, he did win MVP. So... You got your MVP. I mean, I forgot he won MVP.

We all did. But now that we talking about him, it's like, shit, he did win MVP. So, obviously that didn't... It may be a regular season, but come postseason... I'm just being real, like, come postseason, and we talking about MB's nickname is The Process, but question for y'all is when is The Process going to officially be over? Is it when MB's gone, or when that team wins the championship? Well, they're not winning the championship. Well, they're not winning a championship

No, they're not winning a championship. I mean, I mean the nah, it's called the process right? It's no different in loading Right, but what if they could get that what if they could always always you always like She just ain't going to turn over the way you want it to be. You know what I mean? You're just going to sit there all motherfucking day. I'm waiting on this motherfucker right now. So just process is still buffering.

It's just loading. Just put a loading. Yeah. It's still processing. We'll turn this bitch off and reset it, man. Still processing. We just going to wait until the motherfucker's done. Doosh.

So how much blame does Embiid deserve for the way the six or season turned out this year? This year listen And It's always the same thing right the problem with him is gonna always be he does enough does enough individually for us not to look at him. Yep. Right? When I say what you're doing with the team, with what you are equipped with, is actually not enough. It was a 32 in this.

That shit sounds cool. I mean, it's amazing. Now, if I said, all right, how about this? Let me take Greek's energy, give it to Embiid. What the fuck does he average? Oh, 40. Then why the fuck are you happy with 32? Do more.

Right. Do more. Why the fuck are you happy with 32 if I give him someone else's energy that he doesn't have and say, all right, what would he be? Oh, motherfucker, the average 30, 40 in this. That's what I'm saying. He needs the average to get this team to another level. Like when he went, then this is the problem. When he was disrespected about the Jokic and he gave the man 50.

That's what it took for you to just say, right i'm about to be done why the fuck you're not doing that every fucking talk about it if you're talking about winning a championship that's what you're gonna have to do superman talk about it so is it him for me for me and looking at the teams he had with his talent, unstoppable. Yes, it's him. If we put Shaq on any of those teams, they don't lose no championship. They win championships. He got a championship.

Am I right? Yeah, you put a beat on the tier of Shaq, though. Is he there yet? Yes. I mean, you have to because he won MVP, but from what you see in the postseason and dominance and poses It's a dip. No, it's a different type of dominance, but that type of that type of Focus that you got to focus on him. Yes. Yeah, but right do we don't have like Shaq's dominance It's just fucking different way different when he don't he's trying to break my rims. Huh? Okay more like a cameo

Yeah, I'm on a set of sack like like more a came again got to yeah. Yeah He did but but think about how hard he played I know I'm said like they you know, he's still king was getting out there But it's the it's the leadership who had more talent between the two Philly or the team's hockey was winning with The rocket squad rocket squad was tough was tap. They was they was or the teams Hakeem was winning with? The Rocket Squad. The Rocket Squad was tough. It was tough.

They was solid. Yes. Rocket Squad. Yes, individual. Yes, they was solid. Who had a James Harden? Oh, yeah. No, not even close.

You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. For sure, for sure. But like I say this, when you're a leader of the team, you're the star of the team, all of the focus, blame, and everything comes on you because this is the penalty of leadership. The penalty of leadership is when the team fails, it's because of the leader.

It starts from the top. So if you're not going to lead by example, it's going to show when the team don't get success. And that's what's been shown is that he hasn't been leading by example, by showing the team, we going to win this shit no matter what. We always go back to Kobe Bryant. When you were talking about Kobe had to average 35 because he looked around and was like, shit, I got to do this shit to take us to this level. So when you a leader and that goes for everybody from Dame to Steph to KD, Kyrie, Luka, all of y'all. Like, you got to take the leadership and the accountability of what that stands for and take your team to the promised land. Because if you can't, it's going to be on you.

The blame is on you. So let's talk about Embiid's regular season versus playoffs. Half their knowledge, too, he had the knee injury, but he played the game. So at the end of the day, you play, you play. It is what it is. But 33-10-4 and 66 regular season games postseason 23.7 10 rebounds three blocks and nine games So I was always led to believe come postseason those numbers got to go up whatever whatever you're doing that regular season

I got yeah, playoff is new instead. It has to stay the same or go up by one or two. Mm-hmm Yeah, right. That's what that's what makes you that that dude staying the same or go up by one or two. Yeah. That's what makes you that dude. Staying the same or go up by one or two. What year is this for him? Eight? Yeah. Let me pull it up. But I know the first two seasons he was kind of hurting shit.

So, hold on. That's why we got the computer. Everybody was always like, why are you looking at the computer all the time? This is why. Has him beat? Seventh season. Seventh season. When Steph season seven season when Steph? You know when Steph was dominating, right?

Like like it was him Russ right them triple doubles He was like has in beat actually had any phases like that like just dominating like like he's just the most unstoppable Dude, like we're sitting there like Dan. This man is unstoppable. You mean like the whole season? Yeah like Dude, like we're sitting there like Dan. This man is unstoppable. You mean like the whole season? Yeah, like that like what's that like when Steph was doing what he was doing or Katie was doing what he was doing and those Guy he hasn't actually he's averaging 33, but it's not noticeable for some reason He had moments during like a week Yeah, like a week like he had a cook solid when Steph was cooking the whole world was talking about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Is it because he's a big man, though? Because we always talk about, like Miles Turner was saying, it's like, because you're big, you don't really get the ball as much. You don't get to shoot threes. It's not as entertaining. Now, Belen Jokic, though.

But yeah. That's what's funny. It's known. Like, that's known. We talked about Jokic more last year and to Perk. Yeah, that comparison. Perk, Rungan, DeWarsen. Like, Even when Giannis, when Giannis was going through

that 14 game and all that, I haven't seen an Embiid phase like that yet. But he has the numbers. It just seems like noticeable. Giannis had his run too. Giannis had that. We said, yo, this man is on fire.

Or Dame. Dame had a crazy run. Yes. Where it was just like noticeable like. Yeah like I haven't noticed. And Joker was doing his thing too but also we saw the Nuggets who were comfortably in first place started to shut it down get prepared for the playoffs obviously made sense they're going to win a championship but that was the argument obviously Joker took a backseat to NB winning that MVP but now come the postseason Joker showed you that he's the most dominant player in the league right now I mean obviously you could say Giannis Katie all these other guys at a hundred percent that didn't happen Nuggets won the chip it is what it is right now. Well, that's crazy because if you look at it Joker

Had the run where he was the best player and we all agreed that he had that run and then he won Giannis we all agreed during that run Was the best player one? And b hasn't had that run where we can say man You are the best player and you're going to take your team to the chip That's the thing, but I think his batman compared to the others Is not reliable james hardin was the guy he thought thought was gonna take him over the top be his Robin be his you know You know take him over and he just didn't deliver that. Yeah, the funny part is that's what makes it bad

because on paper on paper Who's actually better Philly or Denver? Philly. James Harden averaged 22 and 10.7. For the season. That's better than Kirby. I mean, that's better than Murray's numbers. Yep.

Tobias is better than their third option. What I'm saying is by talent-wise, Philly would be better. They just don't process. That's why the numbers don't mean nothing. It's all about putting your team together. Yeah, put your team together. Hey, hey. You got Harden, the former MVP. You got Embiid, the MVP.

I know what you get now. Come on. We'll wait for that tomorrow. We'll wait for that tomorrow. For those that don't know, if you saw our USA vs. the World Convo in Vegas, we're continuing that on Thursday. We'll give you just a little preview of it. What's today? Wednesday? I'm all over the place. Mr. B! Vegas we're continuing that on Thursday. We give you just a little preview of it

Let's go on the same I said for tomorrow. Yeah, I'm just saying this team don't even start on 18 Mr. B Beat out Marcus smart Sorry, Sorry as you wrote you have come on man Okay, let's keep this thing back on him be so we talked about from the six or so But how much longer should him be trust the process with the Sixers first of all? He ain't got nothing to do ain't gonna trade him to just like they gonna trade James Harden. Mm-hmm right, it's Cutting block. That's what at some point. They're gonna look at a team and say oh we need to get some form

Hey, by the leaf we won't get some form. We got the rebuilds. You start over and just start over I mean cuz they've been fighting for her since he got there. It was a full year? I mean, they got rid of everybody for this man. They've been fighting for a minute since they got Ben. So, we'll point... He's only in his seventh year? He missed his first two years because of an injury, but he's playing seven seasons. So, that's always...

Michael Carter Williams. Drew. Drew. Ben. Him. Jimmy. Jimmy. It's a lot. Drew Ben Him Jimmy When he got rid of Ben That was always a problem with me

I've said it when he got rid of Ben It's over Because you have a guy They can say whatever they want about us Offensively defensively he was not a liability No he wasn't He was not a liability What the, he wasn't. He was not a liability. What the fuck was the distance

between James Harden and the final game and Ben Simmons? At least Ben Simmons made sure his man wasn't going to do nothing. And he played hard, too. We were literally arguing

and telling the man he didn't have heart and his job is to get the best player of the ball. We would never have said that to Rondo. Right? Okay. We would never have said that the Rondo Right. Okay. We're not talking about like Magic Johnson when Magic Johnson he had Kareem He did his thing when Kareem wasn't there. He had to take over that that Embiid has been at the whole time

Yeah, so, you know, I mean like I look at him for the defensive present that helped Embiid that shut down things Well, I'm gonna go one Embiid's I go five. That's what you lost. When you lost that, you lost that important part of the game. Go from Trey Young to whoever he needed to go to. It's really hard when you have guys like that on your team because you don't value them the way they need to be valued. I think that was the immaturity of Philly then too. And I don't think Doc Rivers helped. I don't think

Brett, was it Brett Brown? Was it the coach? Brett Brown. I don't think they helped that situation knowing that Ben wasn't necessarily supposed to be the scoring guy. So even in that possession, the one possession fucked their whole organization up.

One possession. One possession. Yo, past it. It's like Diable. If Diable finishes the play, we ain't even got Fuck their whole organization up one position one possession Oh Passed it and passed it's like table if Diable finishes the play we ain't even got nothing that we discussing It's like why he don't get the blame for up. Yeah, I passed it to you, bro I should have laid it up but don't that shit you lay it up you finish it But then it's like that one play had everybody looking at Ben Simmons crazy Even Joel Embiid which Ben had his back the most. So it just looked crazy. Now it's like the curse of the 76ers back on again.

So we're going to talk about, and I just want to relay this that we got our expert research team working with us. Simmons was 58 and 52 without Embiid and B was 99 and 57 without Simmons. So just take that for what it's worth. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The fuck does that mean? That he played better without Ben? No, that ain't no fucking stat Just keep it pushing. Oh, no, fuck that. I don't even do that. No, this is this is not sports We're not doing that bulls. That's what we're not doing that dumb shit. He's Ben Simmons short center Ben Simmons When he didn't have in bead it was fucking Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris

When Ben Simmons didn't have I mean when the MB didn't have been Simmons he had James Harden Tobias Max Yes, still a fucking team. So we're not gonna do that. Oh squat. All right. All right. Hey, that's cheating too That's a good point. You said I tried that bullshit. That's a fucking good point too. That's fucking cheating. Sometimes we make sure you're still paying attention. Okay. You get an A for paying attention. You get an A. That ain't a stat. That ain't no fucking stat. But they also said six were three and one

in playoffs with Simmons, but not in D. Three and one. Okay. With Simmons? Yeah. That means neither here nor there. But we're going to talk Harden in a second, but let's talk Tyrese Madsen. That's a here nor there. But we're going to talk Harden in a second, but let's talk Tyrese Maxey. That's a good-ass stat, though. Three-one. United back here, they don't like to be stumped.

So Tyrese Maxey, names have been brought up in trade talks. I think the Sixers have been pretty diligent that they're not getting rid of Maxey. So do you guys agree with the Sixers trying to protect Maxey? I think Nick Nurse has said that he wants to look to really build around Maxie and Embiid moving forward. Not to knock Harden, but... I mean, from what we've heard about Maxie and little things from just coaches and players that he really goes hard. They've got to

tell him to take time off. When you're talking about paying players and building around players, you want to build around players who's willing to get better, who wants to get better, who wants to be, you know, great. Like if I have, you know, Maxie, and then I have someone who's a little bit talented, but lazy, I'd rather put my money in a guy that i know he's gonna come out here every fucking day and and try to you know be great versus someone who's just

naturally talented but lazy yeah and he's young too so yeah you could definitely build around him yeah i like him a lot he remind me of young gill man without a big like if Brandon Haywood was like fucking Joel Embiid That Washington team is different because Maxie's going downhill every time he gives it James Harden's in his way When James Harden's on the floor, he goes to the corner, right? He doesn't have the ball but when he's in there by himself with Embiid that game changes for him you see him go to From a 15 point game to 25. And he gets to do his thing.

Literally, when you go back and you watch Gil's footage, a lot of guys couldn't stop him because he's going full steam ahead every time. That was usually the reason why we couldn't guard this nigga because we don't know what he's going to do. Maxie, the same way. He's going full speed. He's either going to get the foul.

He's going to stop and pop. He's got a whole different array of his game that can be expound upon if James Harden is not on the floor. Now you move James, we don't know what they got. If Tobias, like Tobias was saying, he's like,

you motherfuckers traded me. Who you going to get that can guard one, two, three, four? Who can get these rebounds? Who pass? Who shoot? 80, 40, and 50. You're not going to get nobody like me. So you got those three pieces, and no distractions. I think it's a different team. So building around Maxie, if you do happen to get rid of Embiid, I'm not going to say

you're safe, but you still can compete because you got a three-level score that mimics somebody who's a legend. So if he can stay in the gym, like Gil said, if he's a gym rat and he does have that motor to just really be in there like he was, it's a whole different game for Philly. They got a good piece. Maxie's only 22. He'll be 23 in November. He's a young boy. That's what I'm saying. He got a lot of time. Give him B, about two more years, he can go. And'll be 23 in November. He's a young boy. That's what I'm saying. He got a lot of time. Give him B about two more years, he can go.

And we just build around him. How old was you when you got yours? 25? When I got what? Your Washington deal. 21? Damn. I came in on a second round deal.

But you was young for your age, too. Mm. Shit. I was second round. So I only had two years then. So you were 23 when you hit the mark. No, I came in at 19. No, I'm saying the Washington mark when you 06, 07, 08, the three-time All-Star, you was 20?

25. 25. Shit, young boys. So let's talk about Harden just a little bit. So MB's future may be in doubt for now, but he's hopeful he can change James Harden's mindset on one and out of Philly. Harden reportedly only wants to go to the Clippers, but Sixers president Daryl Morey is in no rush to move the former MVP.

During an interview Tuesday with 97.5 The Fanatics' Anthony Gargano, Morey had this to say about any potential Harden trade. If we don't get either a very good player or something that we can turn into a very good player, then we're just not going to do it. He also added, all I know is that we either are going to move him for a player that helps us win now, we're going to get assets that allow us to get a good player in the short term,

or we're going to continue to wait. So Harden opted into the final year of his two-year deal, will be unrestricted free agent next season, not eligible to sign an extension, based on that criteria. So when we look at Harden, Gil, has Harden played his last game with the Sixers? I mean, fuck, it sounds like, I thought these motherfuckers was best friends. I thought they was brothers from another mother. Like, I'm serious, right? Like, just last year, the year of the two-gold eight, best friends, hugging and they just partying. Wasn't they just partying? That's what I'm serious right like just last year the year to go to a best friends hugging and they just party

Wasn't they just partying? That's what I'm saying. So what what happened? This is business a party is a party. This is the ghost. You're gonna go weird to the point where y'all can't talk Yeah, I don't I don't get I don't get these two I Mean it seems kind of like the dame situation where it's like look Yeah, we know you want to dip but you're under contract and unless we get some shit that we want back either your ass gonna play here or you we're not moving like we're not just finna get nothing because we cool still business i know but it's still business us. Drinking, doing all that, having fun, riding in a jet together, doing all this,

and y'all can't. I mean, that means other teams ain't interested in it. No, that means something going on. Something going on. What's going on? I mean, because you look at the Brooklyn situation. Harden goes partner with his homie. Then he leave his homies out to dry.

I'm out. Going to Philly. Got better strip clubs. Huh? out, going to Philly. Got better strip clubs. Then we get to Philly. I mean, maybe I was in my championship. Then we get to Philly, right? We get to Philly, I'm with Embiid, oh he the homie now, but he ain't as cool, but he cool. He ain't as cool, but he cool.

I could deal with him, but now it's like, well what now? You want to leave? What happened? Y'all can deal with him. But now it's like, well, what now? You want to leave? What happened? Y'all fucking each other's bitches? Something going on. Damn. This is Gil's Arena, as you know. With him and Maury?

No, I'm talking about him and MB. Maury too, but it's like when you look at the dynamic of those relationships between GM, player, player, player, what the fuck is going on where y'all don't have that? I mean, for what it's worth, MB, during the Fanatics party last week that y'all might have got invited to, I did not. You know, Michael Rubin was cracking.

Told Rachel Nichols that him and Harden are good friends. They're going to remain friends no matter what. Obviously, he wants to try and convince them to stay. But regardless, if Harden dips or not,

they're still going to be tight. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, well, we're such good friends that you want to go to the Clippers. Home. I'd rather be enemies. Home. I just want to go home. Are we doing the home thing?

Is that what we're doing? I just want to go home. Everybody want to go home? Everybody want to go home. I mean, this is it. Westbrook, back with Harden, with PG, everybody home. I mean, if this is the last run, let's end it at home. But then you're still with the Clippers.

But if you're the Sixers and now the Clippers are making a trade offer, and PG and Kawhi are not in that, and you want a superstar, is Norm Powell, Morris' inspiring contract, that's not going to be enough, right? Unless you get a third team involved. We got some flies in here, too. You already know. It's summertime. No, I told you, that shit, that irritates me. Yeah We got some flies in here too. You already know This summertime no, I thought that shit that irritates me. It takes me to so I cool. God damn I'll be out there. I'll just let you give me some chopsticks about the Miyagi this bit

You gotta close that dough. It's fly season. It is fly season out here in LA for you guys, but if more instance is like look unless we get a Good haul back for this former MVP, right? if Maury Stantz is like, look, unless we get a good haulback for this former MVP, right, then you keep your ass here or we can wait until the trade deadline or some point during the season. If you harden out, how do you approach that?

I mean, we already seen what they did to Ben Simmons. So, I mean, you know what I mean? We already seen what they, you know, come, you got, you know, is that a water bottle? Backyotomy time. Yeah, we already seen what they, you know, come, you got a, you know, you got, is that a water bottle? Oh, that's a cell phone. We already seen that.

We already seen the media drag what they did, so, I mean, you still got to move careful. You know, likely you will want to be moved in the summer so you can have a fresh fucking start. Yeah. Right? That goes on both sides, right? You know, Philly, if you want to have a real chance, you want to make the trade in the summer

so you can use the fucking pieces now. They learn your plays. They're in training camp. You're making sure they're good versus waiting during the season. Season started. He ain't playing. You're doing this.

You're losing. Then you make a trade. That's not how a fucking basketball works. But we can't find nothing. You can find something what we're not just taking anything though like teams ain't just taking anything you ain't taking nothing right now if you ain't playing okay well then you and then you ain't playing like we can play hardball that's they sending a message that's what i feel like all

the gm all this all this we gotta man whatever hey the cap gonna keep going well we'll just sit here and pay that yes i mean it's only 35 million left, we'll just sit here and pay that. I mean, it's only $35 million left, so we'll just sit here and pay that. Y'all not remember, he's black. He black. Huh? He black. Okay. We ready to quit our jobs.

We ready to quit our jobs. What are you talking about? You tell me. Sit down. Shit, I've been in that motherfucker with puffy jackets and shit. Bro, for real. No, you don't. We're talking about you tell me Puffy jack shit They don't Be go for tea talking about guys soon as he won first round This is the person with Vegas god damn it not

Bro, you got him on tears, man. You think going to complain? Oh, no, don't send me home. No, he ain't going to end it like that. Like I always say, there's the bag, I'll wear the nag. And if you can get the bag with no nag, then... They sending a message. They telling Dame the same shit. Like, listen, we move you when we ready. Yeah, I feel like Tim's going to be on that.

For what? They sending a message to the young kid. Man, sit. Sit. Sit until we pay you all this money. We ain't get what we wanted We finally found something for you Like LeBron was when I was moving it I'd be playing bott bottle bottle top and everything Bottle throwing and every day I'd be on the sideline and join my goddamn life man their question for y'all. I mean

One to win a championship that's where his heart's at How much pressure is on the Sixers to get a good return in this deal? And if the the option is oh hard to sit your ass at home and we go It's important be try I'm, are we going to be trash? I'm just saying, we're going to be trash now, or we're going to get a good deal. Where do you draw that line? We want a good deal. Teams want a good deal, man.

First of all, they're just throwing out money. They're going to want a good deal. I'm not just giving. I'm not just giving. There's nothing you can do, man. Yes, I can. We're going to sit there and play. There's nothing you can do.

We're going to sit there and play, because I write the check. The problem is this. You got one guy who already tasted MVP. Okay. If you tasted MVP, if you already tasted MVP, right? Okay. And then I'm not playing.

And I'm not playing. And you start off the season 2 and 15, there's no MVP for you. You already naturally mad as fuck. You're right. You don't like me now, period. You're right. You don't like yourself. You're not good It don't matter. You don't like you don't like me no more because I done fucked up your back-to-back Absolutely back-to-back what the MVP? That's all you plan for is MVP. You're not playing

They just say you went into it for a joker MVP MVP chip like it's a bill that I'm taking Well, I'm also now we're building them's a build, and I'm taking away your build. Oh, so now we're building now. What I'm saying is I'm taking away your build. You have a legacy, too. And it's momentum, too, B. Yep, I'm fucking up your momentum. You're talking about the momentum. And if James Harden's not playing...

He's not going into the season this year winning MVP, MB. We don't know. Like he said, if he starts 15-2, that's the momentum for MVP. They already talked to MVP. I mean, y'all just talking. That's not going to happen. Let's talk for real now. We're not talking about the B about bucks. Huh? We're not talking about the books. All right In the air it's like don't throw that out there, but I'm just saying

For the East you don't have Greek in him right for these. Yes So whoever has the best percentage at the best time. So if I'm starting off the season, Grieg is 15-2 and we 2-15 because me, I ain't playing. You hot. They're not starting off like that. I'm just saying, but you hot. But I'm messing up. Even 9-7 though. I'm messing

up your shit. You're fucking it up. You're fucking up my shit. Listen, we all said they gave him this year MVP because of what? They felt bad. They're not doing that. They're not feeling bad this year. I know, but what if he come out and average 13 and 35?

Okay. And he's number one in the East. That's MVP. We're not saying he'll win it, but he's going to be in the conversation again. Milwaukee? But if he's averaging 35 and 13 motherfucker he probably the MVP again You think you think heart or envy can go back to back? I don't know No, I feel like what after what happened this year

He's gonna have to average like 40 for the 35 35 13 only if Joker ain't having the same type of well This was a fail bad for you Season this yeah, he might know he might understand that too you feel bad for me now i gotta show y'all motherfuckers would have really what's up senate and i'm doing it without james harden now he ain't gonna do that without james harden but that's the point now if i'm in six years i gotta get so if we lose hard and we gotta get something you gotta do it now you come in and fill that void why don't portland just swap portland can't we be talking about that they about that. They need to swap. Portland for James

Rodgers? If I'm Portland, no. I got a young boy. I got a young boy who go hard. But he ain't improving, though. I got a young boy that go hard. But then you could probably move him again to the Clippers. You're talking about a three-team with Sixers, Blazers. Why don't you just swap? Them three-team bullshit

be confusing me, man. You know the Blazers are going gonna be salty if they feel like the Sixers get something better than James and then get some get something from the Clippers or something cuz he wants to go to the club PG Now I'm easy. You know I'm saying I'm saying he's a man or something like it can work PG to ballman James No, no easy to the Blazers James to the Blazers. James to the Clippers. Dame to Philly.

Dame to Philly. But if you're the Clippers, do you want to do that? Yeah. Why not? I'm asking you. I can tell you right now. But do you want James and PG and Kawhi? You can't keep off. No, no, no, no, no, no. Clippers right now. I don't want to deal with none of that shit.

Clippers right now are trying to have a lineup where all four of them are in. I mean that's fine. With Russ, Russ. That's fine. That's fine. Every team that's stacking up. James, PG, and Kawhi. Hell no.

They are having a small ball lineup. Nasty. Nasty. No way. No way. Nasty. No way. That look like a freak knit tee. Oh my God.

Rusty, look. Rusty and James can play. That's why James was coming off the bench, because Rusty and him on the same court don't make sense. No, they was playing together back then. Because KD was there. They had Stoffelopfer. That's Nasty Hoop.

That is a waste of two years. Hey, bro. Stoffelopfer. Hey, man. I might get tickets. For what? To go see that- Did they get James here? That is a waste of two years. Hey, bro. Hey, man. Hey. I might get tickets. For what? To go see that? To get James here?

All four of them? That is nasty. There's no retreat. That's going to be like the Rockets back in like 0405. Where it was one down, two down, three down, four, no. It was, you had what, Camby was, no, Camby was

over, no, I don't know if Camby was over there, but they had Mucci Norris off the bench. They had Stevie Franchise, they had Gatino, they had Tractor Trailer, they had Maurice Taylor. Maurice Taylor. Yeah, yeah, they're all one-on-one guys. Nasty Hoop. Nasty. Nasty Hoop. Kawhi. Yeah, yeah. I're all one-on-one guys. Nasty hoop.

Nasty. Nasty hoop. Kawhi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get rid of Kawhi. If you will keep PG, Kawhi go to Portland. No way. He not moving again.

He not moving again. He done. No, he done. Them L.A. dudes are staying home, bro. You got all of them L.A. dudes. Nasty. L.A. dude. Playing for the Clippers.

All of y'all. Yeah. Nasty. They wouldn't even win the Drew League. Damn. That team ain't even winning. Stand on it, B. That team ain even win the Drew League. Damn. Damn, don't it be. They ain't winning the Drew League. Right now, that team right now,

they're not winning the Drew League. Kawhi and them, I'm like, they gonna be healthy. They're not winning the Drew League. That's a tough statement. Frank Nitty ain't having that shit. Frank Nitty not having that shit. Frank Nitty ain't having that shit. No way. Not Nitti not having that shit. No way. Frank Nitti ain't having that shit.

No way. Not on my watch. No way. So let's talk about Clippers. Let's hit the Clippers a little bit. I'm just playing. Knowing Harden's track record like you know it now, knowing he's going to be an unrestricted free agent,

unless you can make some type of gentleman's handshake under the table and get a long-term deal, would you risk trading these pieces to get Harden essentially could be one year they didn't know one year it's he's home he's home I understand I'm just telling he's home so it where's he gonna go he comes here he gets to be in LA go to Sam strip club all day what he got a wedding clothes on still cuz LA um yeah but if he buy it out where's he gonna go from here why would it like a player that comes so they've been in these different cities when they come to la la kids when they come to la they got 30 something plus tickets like it's they coming home to so when you get here you don't want to leave. Right? He gets to L.A. He ain't like Russ.

8 mil. They gave him everything they wanted. Like, we talked about 8 mil. That's all they actually had. I talked to Tyrone Lou. I said, how do you like my man Russ? He's like, I love Russ. He said, the energy Russ brings.

Man, keeps everybody going. There's no dull days in practice He's gonna come hard. Yeah, like what you see in the game is what you see in play. He gonna go hard It keeps everybody we love him like all we had was this Bradley was like shit All right bill said the same thing about a time with the Wizards and Russ coming. I mean so it seems like Proof is this like so if this does happen and they can get James and Russ on the team. So it's like. Two year max. Like, is this it though?

Is this the last. Is that a chip? Or is this still the Clippers curse? You're like, is that a chip or is this the last we're going to see of them? Nah, listen. It ain't no chip. It ain't no chip because what ends up happening is. Are they willing to turn into a team?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, is this the last run? Kawhi and PG technically are the only two players that know how to play team basketball. Okay. Right? Russ has the concept of what he does. Like, he's a team player, but he don't know how to actually be effective in team concepts. James Harden doesn't really know what a team is.

If he said, I'm going to play like Klay Thompson, then yeah, but I don't see him doing that. But did you see that with Russ when he went to the Clippers? No. This season? He had his money. It felt like he started to embrace that though. You need a system player. I'm saying it felt like he started to embrace that just a little bit more than we've seen

in Russ. But him embracing that he has to turn his engine off. He has to learn how to have his engine going full speed and running full court, running through, cutting back doors, slicing, like a do-all, a little-all dang, or you know how those guys was averaging 18 and this,

and you didn't even need to call plays for them. Right, right, right. That has to be those two players. They got to be those type of guys that I don't need to call plays for him. Right, right, right. That has to be those two players. They got to be those type of guys that I don't need to call plays for you, but you're moving so much, you're cutting your back door. Or Jason Terry. Yeah. On that championship.

That's the Russ being Russ that we always talk about. Tyrone wanted him to be you, be you. And that's not who Russ is. It's like you said, a team-oriented system guy. And then you look at Kawhi and PG, they've never really had a gelling moment as two team players playing enough with each other. I still don't even see them on the

floor together, and they don't look like teammates to me. They look like two separate individuals waiting for plays to be called for them, so they can do their thing. And then they don't got a floor general. They finally had John Wall on there that could have got the team in the system, but he never played enough.

So it was like, you got Russ, who was a traditional point guard at times, but he's not, like you said, a team guy. So how you going to gel that team together when you got those four? Even with Harden, you're saying, now coming to the mix? Because Harden need the ball. He need the isos.

You know the problem with that? Like, when you tell someone, and this is the problem, when you tell someone who's been great at what they do, right, and never learned how to develop the all-around skill, if I say, hey, James Harden, I need you to play more team basketball, in his mind, he thinks, all right, I don't take no shots. Yes. And I get lost had i only had eight points i was past that's not what the fuck i'm talking yes yes right i mean do you nigga yeah do you still but you know instead of forcing this there's a

guy right there wild cutting off the cutting off the ball you know you they they face guarding you set the pick yes for mb since they're face guard you they're not gonna help with it But do the tangibles like what's the kid? Uh, uh Brown Bruce Brown But I'm not gonna nod the other one the white boy Christian bro Chris Chris around Russ can do that. Yeah an average 20 run the court Scott Slide like you can do that without physically holding the ball all the time. Yep.

You turn into one of those type of players that changes the dynamic because you are a team player. You don't need the ball. You slide and cut and still being effective, running the lane. And then James Harden, you over here taking down picks, you know, here it is past.

You become more deadlier versus just, all right, get the ball. Kawhi sitting there it but the mother the scariest Clipper team was before they even signed Kawhi mmm and Paul George people were more afraid of Lou Williams and Pat Beverly mmm cuz Lou was getting that thing off Pat Beverly Lou Williams coming off the bench. That team was a playoff team. They had no superstars. Lou Williams averaging 21 off the bench.

Team had no names. If that game was close, Lou was doing what Lou did, but that was a team. Montrez. Montrez. The last few Clippers can't say they were better than that team.

Well. Right, Kenny? Shit on paper, but... On paper? Yeah, reality. It was... Pull it up. Yeah, pull that up.

It was the 2018 team, maybe? Was it 17, 2017, 18? Yeah. Detroit was 19, right? Before Montrez went to the Lakers. Yeah. So not Lou Williams. That's when he averaged 19. So not the team with CP and Jamal in them. 1718 yeah, they could look the tray was 19 right before Montrez went to the Lakers. Yeah So not Louie. That's when he ever got the team was he being Jamal on him But that you know, hold on. It's right after this that team those things was good, too No, I think Houston that he was only 48 34, but let me see but it was a good 48

Which one had bias Harris Lou Williams Gallinari, Montrez, Harold Schmidt, a young SGA. How many games they win? That team was 48 and 34. How about the year after that? But that Blake Griffin and 49 and 23. Yeah that team. This was the first year of Kawhi and PP. This was the year before. Go look at the teams with Blake Griffin and CP and them. Them teams are stacked. But I'm it with this team right turn on to see 17 members have some good teams they saw it they always not solid like a crisp I wouldn't when they added over the head of Kawhi and what's in them you like with Lou Williams trez and that oh my god they're gonna be good yeah they won

one more game the Clippers are they won one more game with Kawhi and the Clippers are cursed that's nasty one with one more game. The Clippers are cursed. They won one more game with Kawhi and... The Clippers are cursed. That's nasty. One more game. One more game, you added two All-Stars. One of them was top 75. Less than 60 games. I'm just telling you.

One more game. So, one more thing on this Harden and Bede situation. Now, obviously, the Heat have been adamant about trying to make a deal for Dame Lillard. We've talked about this on the show previously. But if the Heat can't get Dame, should they consider trading for Harden or even Embiid? I'm just telling you.

Who are they going to trade? What assets? If Embiid tells you right now, I'm one out. Cool. You say, keep your big ass right here? Oh yeah, let me give you James Harden. I'm going to give back Hero. Damn.

Already got Maxie! I'm gonna give back Hero and I'm gonna be like, oh yeah, I can win the championship, man. Like, what the fuck are you getting back? What does Miami have? What does it mean? Put Maxie at the one, put Hero at the two? I mean, what's, I mean, there's still 20... May not be enough. You're still young, but I'm just saying you're still young

You still I'm just saying it may require three teams But just kind of winning championship and I'm in beat and you just gave me but what about me? Well, you ain't winning the championship what you got now, but what I'm saying is why so why not? So maybe so maybe take them all out of James hand and put it in time. You're in B. You don't Yeah, do you try to make a move give me to Miami to your point? I'm lazy. I need to get into an environment in the culture. What are you talking about and be going to Miami? Yeah me But you have to figure it out it's gonna be taking a man hero Probably not do a bad hero. Give me some a hero. Give me the young boys Joe bitch. You hide me hot. Yeah

Me fucked up man Miami fucked up when they only let one person go to people two guys go who was it was it was a Gabe and That's it. It's true. It's true. So soon. Yeah, but I mean those guys started now. We'll need them dog They're not we're not integral pieces for negotiating purposes you do but they didn't have a bread and have that much Monetary value no no what I'm saying you supposed to sign them back and then use them as a trade. Oh, for higher money. Versus just letting them go. Now you don't have those pieces as bargaining chips.

They still got Taylor. Like, so I would have signed them back 30-30 and then boom. Hey, hey. I got Max. I got your tough point guard. I got this. And then I got Hero. Here's these three.

Give me that. You have better negotiations. They still got Lowry, Hero, Caleb Martin. They still got picks and Leveraging BAM and the young guy they just picked up Jovish and Jaime Hocker All of them niggas gotta go cool All of them gotta go now. You got four players. Yeah We're going to the G League again. We're going dipping to the G League.

Bring them niggas up. You say, we got three years. We got three years. We got three years. You want me to work out the Vegas or Summer League? Bring me off the bench. I got a good 10, 15 in me. Nigga, Hassam going to be starting.

That's how that team happens. I'm picking up 94. Huh? I got a good 10, 15 in me. We get us an M-D and a Dame for that. Nigga, we win? I got a good 10, 15 in me. We get us some MD and a Dame for that. Nigga, we win. I got a good. Go, team, go.

It's like we on the bench. Pick him up. That's all I need. Pick him up. I got six fouls. I foul some niggas for you. Hey, Bobo, go get a different foot. That's all you got out of this.

Bobo, go get a different foot. Go get her gram. Go get her gram. Get her TikTok. I need the gram. Get her threads. I need the gram. Get her threads. I need that OnlyFans. So who do you see getting moved first, Harden or Day?

And this is the last question in the subject, but we still got to talk about the Sun and Draymond. Harden. Harden. Harden? Yeah, probably Harden. Do you think they'll be involved in some way, shape, or form in a trade with three-team, four-team trade? Yeah, it has to be. Would they both be moved?

It's going to be blockbuster, shake-up-the-league type shit. I hope so. It's been like four days. Actually, no, it's been like 45 minutes since we had some real major shit go down the league, so we need to keep this thing moving. We need that. Now, let's head out west. So let's talk about these Suns a little bit.

Continue to dominate this offseason. They made two more moves this past weekend. Let's start with the first one. On Sundayay the suns added bobo to the roster signing the former magic forward to a one-year deal the legend my new son my guy so when you look at bobo what do you think bobo will bring to this sun squad i'm just going to assume the same thing he'd been bringing to every other team disappointment I'm just saying I really believe in him like I need his talent You can't say you believe in What do I expect I expect failure

Damn, yeah, like he's gonna do what he's been doing but his talent Unstoppable talent nine and but he ain't using it so you ain't been able to play They coach is not playing on them. Then now we got to ask ourselves What the fuck is going on behind the scenes where this man is being treated every time you ever had a coach hate on you Every coach, okay Gilbert you then you should understand. No, I'm just saying every coach, I can see one or two. No. Every one you go to. Because the coaches talk to each other. Orlando,

who he got over there. We've been coached by him. No, but it's coming from Denver, going to Orlando. When you put that nigga in the game when you was playing with the Orlando Magic, he was a game changer. There wasn't a time when he was or he wasn't doing his fucking thing So what is he and I he wasn't in the scenes. No, it's who's in front of him Who is the guys that have to play that's in front of him? That's the question. It's like why is he not playing?

Well, we got to play the young fellas Is a younger fellow that's the point when you are a young fella and you got the guy telling me gotta play the young fellas. I had that. He is a younger fella. That's the point. When you are a young fella and you got the guys telling you you got to play the young fellas. We're talking about a guy. What do you average in college? 21. 21 and what? 9. 21 and 9. And three games. But the janky foot. Three games.

But he goes where in the draft? Second round. There's a reason. No, it's not. No, it's not. You cannot say that and believe that, Gilbert, because you win second round.'s a reason no it's not it gotta be no it's not it gotta you cannot say that and believe that gilbert because you win second round i was 13 it don't matter but you have a position but you was you you was you and so if you allow that narrative to continue with young fellas just like if their son he was a lot into the draft and they say, well, we're going to pick him second round because he's Gilbert Arenas' son. He's going to follow in his footsteps.

That's an unfair narrative. Who said that about Bobo following his father's footsteps? It's not about following in his father's footsteps. It's about having an unfair narrative, period, regardless of what it is. Have you ever heard of his work ethic? Yes. What do they say? Who can say that he has

a bad work ethic other than... Who says he has a good one? Who says... Yes. Who can say that he has a bad one? Who says he has a good work ethic? No, who says it? When you get drafted, there is not players going to the fucking beat writers telling them, hey man, he don't work hard, he don't

this, he don't that. That's coaches. And if you're a coach, why would you talk bad on a young player at any given moment? For any reason. You don't go talk bad about no player. Period. You don't put no negative narrative out on a player. But what if it affects him?

But what if it don't work? He'll learn to work hard. How? Because he's around motherfuckers who work hard. Why? But he's not doing it now. So if he's not around motherfuckersers to work hard that means he's not the only motherfucker that don't work hard That means everybody should not play why I just him what hasn't he did what you mean? Okay, if he was alive, he played in Orlando if he was a lottery pick Meaning he was supposed to be a lottery pick that means he tried out for this groups of team Even if he say he don't work hard,

why do I give a fuck what you think? Because that's objective. Why the fuck do I care what you think? That's a fucking opinion from somebody. Just like T-Mac. They used to say T-Mac looked like he didn't play hard because of his facial expression. And he used to hate that shit

because he was like, man, this is my fucking face. And this is my fucking swag. It don't mean I don't play hard. What I'm saying is you have an opinion. I'm a different coach. I don't give a fuck about what your opinion is. I get to see him for myself, right? So when I'm seeing him, you want him to play hard.

If he's going hard. What's going hard though, Gilder? What you're saying has no merit to me. Meaning you didn't want him, sorry for you. I'm going to inherit this. So that means when he's going to work out, and they're saying he ain't working hard, no matter what you

say, that means it's true. It's not true. What are you comparing his work hard to? What are you comparing his work hard to? Do you hear about it? He's 7'3". He's not going to move as fast as a 6'7". What are you comparing his work? Seven foot three, but do you not gonna move as fast as a six seven? Oh, but is he always in the gym? Do we hear that? He's in the gym? Do you know do we know it? It was always in it. No, of course. No one knows

By myself niggas know my homie need to publicize that say look I'm in the gym by myself. With my homie. I don't need to publicize that shit. Hey, look. I'm in the fucking gym. Hey, hey, hey. I want everybody to know I'm in the gym. No, go out. Man, that shit is unfair, man. Because Bobo is going to look at you and be like,

nigga, I'm in the gym all the time. How do you think I got good? Show me. How do you think I got good? How do you think I got good? I have to shoot jumpers. Here's the question. Obviously, we know the Suns were trying to fill out that roster if that was the issue

Risk now bring a bobo in it's one year deal. Come on, man, but that's the thing though We can say about white Howard Dwight Howard and all these other guys. They didn't play hard. They didn't work hard. Come on, man. Kobe Bryant said it. If 30 people say the same thing, that means they all getting the fucking same tweet and they just saying shit. Niggas was saying shit about me and didn't even fucking know me.

They didn't even fucking know me. If someone says McCants has an attitude and every time McCants goes into an interview with an attitude, I'm going to be like, oh, that's it. You're poking the fucking bear in psychology 101. When you take psychology class,

no, it's not. It's me. You're poking me so you get the response that you've heard about. We heard McCann has an attitude. Let's ask him a stupid question so we can get his fucking ass riled up. He got a bad attitude. Why don't you ask me a smart question?

Why don't you ask me something about question okay right okay as me son about all the mates hey hey hey Bobo and we're gonna work out for third minutes now I don't think I need to do that I was happening Gil you put a narrative out if it didn't happen it's a bad narrative if it didn't happen if it didn't happen talking about draft we can't prove it draft't happen, it's a bad narrative. If it didn't. If it didn't happen. You talking about draft work? We can't prove it. Draft work out. You can't prove it. What would it say, draft work out?

You can't prove it. He was turning every team off saying, I'm too good. I don't need to work out for you. He was too good. Obviously, he's not. He's not? Obviously, he's not. Obviously, he's not.

He's not good. I didn't know. He's not good enough. No, you're not good enough to be. You think you're too good not to work out? Every top three player that comes out of the draft does not Train with other guys they train on their own. They work out on their own. They say I'm not I'm not working out with them I'm not going to the draft all of them do that. Yeah, why is it when Bobo do it? It's like

Man don't you talking about man that shit is whack man that he deserves a chance It's like everybody else If I have the number one pick and I want to work you out your set now, I'm too good for that He wants to play with this team just like I don't want to say with them. I want to train with them. I want to get fucking pick you they didn't why cuz the Narrative nigga the same narrative that you push it you say narrative everybody puts it. Oh, man I could he does he that nigga if you are Three if you're seven foot three and you 21 and eight

21 and eight in three games. You give me a shot play play nine 21 and eight in three games It's flip I janky foot, but what it is Bobo play nine games at Oregon a 21 and 10. Yes So what's the narrative What's the narrative so the narrative Kyrie what's the narrative Where did we go number one? No, what's cool? Did he go number one? What's cool? Did he go to? Number one. Duke? Duke. Who's that Duke? Coach K has nothing to do with that. So, what if Duke is a private university? Oh, my God. When you get hidden by a private university under a legendary coach, I don't give a fuck.

Kyrie got picked number one because of his game. I got shit on Duke players. They don't ever want to get out. They don't ever want to get out, right? So, I know for a fact that you can hide shit. You can hide shit. You can hide shit. You can hide shit. So

Bobo didn't get picked because he's sorry. Nobody ever said he's sorry. So if Kyrie got picked because he got game and Bobo didn't get picked because he what? Because he's lazy. Okay, so it ain't nothing to do with his game. So it ain't got nothing to do with his game. So you're changing the narrative. How am I changing he what? Because he's lazy. Okay, so it ain't nothing to do it again. They say doesn't we got another game?

They said so you take it an error. No, how much is there because I read that game and Bobo is lazy. That means that both of these niggas got game. The only difference is the narrative Or the narrative We're proving the narrative narrative meeting Kyrie doesn't have a narrative cuz he's protected No, yes, how we work some careers. I'm right. How do we know? How do we know? How do we know? We're proving the narrative. The narrative meaning Kyrie doesn't have a narrative because he's protected. No. Yes. Kyrie works.

Kyrie is. How do we know? How do we know? How do we know? How do we know? How do we know? First of all, Kyrie works his ass off. I'm about to say.

I'm about to say. The bobo don't work. He's in that gym. He's in that gym. Because we filming, right? No. Everybody knows Kyrie's in that gym. Because y'all in there with him. I was in there.

You was in there with him. I was in there with Bobo. I seen Bobo. I've been in there with Bobo. I see Bobo. I've been there with Bobo. What are you niggas saying? I've been there. I've seen him. You see Kyrie.

I've seen him. So now what I say don't matter. I don't have to see him. Come on, man. Y'all fucking up the narrative on this young kid. He deserves a chance, man. He's getting chances. He got a chance.

But what happened? What did you just say? What was his chance in Denver? Who the just say what was this chance in Denver? Why did they not play him Joker was in front of him literally We can't play bowl bowl. We can't play bowl bowl. We can't play bowl bowl because Joker here. Joker? Let's move him.

I can play him at four. Let's move him. They didn't. I can play him at three. They didn't. They didn't. And we won a championship. They didn't. They got rid of him.

They won a championship. Why would you have to get rid of him? You traded him for who? Hold on. Aaron Gordon? Hold on. Is he better? Is there more talent than Aaron Gordon? They told me Aaron Gordon didn't work hard. There's more talent than Aaron Gordon is he very what it hold on is he better does that more talent in Aaron Gordon they told me Aaron Gordon didn't work hard. Did he there's more time in Orlando in Orlando?

Yeah, they told me the same soon and I know who worked I know the guy who worked with all of them guys who work with Bobo Markel folks all these guys They were hey man and Gordon thought he was better than what he was a muscle work hard enough to do all that That's a lie. That's a lie. Because I played with him in Orlando. And he was in the gym all the time. I'm not talking about playing with him. I'm talking about what he was doing in Orlando. He was in the gym all the time.

That's cool. That's cool. In Orlando. Cool. So they traded him, right? And I think he changed his mindset after he got traded. You think he did what? When he went to Denver.

He changed his mindset. Yes. So Bobo can't change his mindset in the Phoenix? With a bunch of vets that are going to yo, what did I what was my original claim? No, dad do I believe in it? No you said it's gonna be a failure Gilbert you said a young kid gonna be on, hold on. So Bobo, four seasons last year, played 70 games, started 33, had career highs at 9.6 rebounds. And they got rid of him. Okay, so if I gave you, how many years?

That's crazy, man. Four years? Four years, but this was his, he played more games this season. If I gave you four tests, and you got Fs on four tests and if someone asks me what do you expect? I expect a fucking F. I expect an F. What I'm saying is if you

I expect an F because that's what they're giving me. Put your son in this predicament and say you're going to expect the same shit. That's all I'm saying. Put your son in this category. You're asking me expect the same shit. Hold on. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying. Put your son in this category. You're asking me what do I expect. I'm looking at what you've given me.

You've given me four fucking X. No, he hasn't. I expect it. But if you give me something more, that's good. But you're giving me fucking X. That's what I expect. I said he has all the X. You're smart as a motherfucker, but I'm expecting a fucking F.

You can say 3Fs and a C+, Gil. C+, B-. To his town? Bro. He said Fs, Ds. Like, this is unbelievable. We're talking about a 7'3", demigod. This nigga's unbelievable.

Oh, he doesn't work hard. He doesn't. It's like, yo. All right. What the fuck? Hold on. Hold on. What the fuck? God this niggas unbelief. Oh, he doesn't work hard. He doesn't And you don't know the nigga personally you don't even know the nigga no crazy about him Hold on now and we're talking about media. Let's talk about the media. We're talking about the fucking national media who crushes God They don't fucking know they just run with this narrative Oh, you know, it must be true. Everybody says it. It's not fucking true cuz you don't fucking know the nigga He might be going through some shit. Oh

We don't fucking know. Oh shit. Oh now the narrative changes. What was he going to? Oh, we know that Oh my bad. Now we got to go back and be like I apologize man. Fuck that get a nigga a fair shot Give him a fair shot from the beginning. We did. No you didn't Yeah, you heard your name yeah, why fix you hear your name Guaranteed fucking top five. How the fuck do you drop to the second round? What were you doing personally? Stop telling everybody else this narrative. I don't give a fuck about your narrative.

What was your narrative? Put yourself in the situation. I was talking shit. Yes, that's why. He wasn't talking shit, though. He wasn't doing what you were doing. He wasn't doing that. I didn't talk for fucking five minutes about some bullshit. Go ahead.

I was supposed to be a top 14 pick. My behavior got me in the second half. Not his game. My work ethic got me started. My work ethic got me most improved. No. My work ethic got me on the video. No, Gilbert.

No, Gilbert. You can owe my work ethic out. What are you talking about? That's not true. Six o'clock in the motherfucking morning. You had opportunities. Fuck, I didn the motherfucking morning. You had opportunity. Fuck, I didn't have no opportunity. You had opportunity.

I was the 15th. You got to play. How? What do you mean how? How? You got in the game. How? Beating their ass in fucking practice every day.

You got in the game. Beating their ass in practice every day. Gilbert, you got in the game. Every day. We can see how many minutes you played. You got to play. 40 games I sat on that motherfucking bench watching a whole bunch of sorry niggas play. So Bobo didn't. game we can see how many more you got bitch watching a whole bunch of sorry

so bobo so sorry niggas play so bobo can't say the same thing bobo can't say the same thing cuz he ain't got in the game say he can't why can't you go what you mean he ain't done it he didn't have the opportunity opportunityity be able to see plus in the seventh foot lottery pick average nine Fuck out of here still talking Fuck out of here 22 22 is made three all-star games by 22 you got players three all-star

What is that being up? Who else is 22? 73 got players three all-star what does that mean who else is 22 seven three who else is 22 you got the opportunity three like look look yeah so we standing on bashing players we don't know and don't know they like it Say the niggas got a F when you don't know his fucking situation about why he not plan or is playing With some sit you hurt you hearing that shit you're running with something That's the same shit with Zion. Oh, man. We hear you

Eating with Zion. Oh, man, we hear you ain't eating whatever. You just eating. We don't know what Zion's going to do. We know what kind of talent Bobo has, and we see the production. So you're saying he's trash. That's what you're saying. You're saying Bobo is trash. Don't say it, Gil. Don't know Bobo's family.

He's saying Bobo is trash. We got all his talent. You're saying he's trash. Okay. Have you ever seen a really beautiful girl? Uh-oh. Right? She's beautiful.

Got a bad attitude. Right? She's not attractive no more because of her fucking attitude. Bobo is the pretty girl with a bad attitude. He had a great game. Can't the pretty girl change her attitude? If she ain't changed it, then she's the girl with't the pretty girl change her attitude Can't see change she and can she hash no my nigga can see she oh my god It's been four years

Obviously it can take a nigga ten years to change his attitude. It can take a nigga 20 years. It's never too late to change Yeah 20 years. It's never too late to change. In the NBA, it is, though. If you're not giving a nigga an opportunity to change, nigga, what the fuck is y'all... What's the point of talking about him? Wait a minute. Hold on. It goes back to the original statement. I can't believe y'all standing on this. What do I expect?

I can't believe y'all standing on this. What do I expect? What I expect is what I've been seeing. Until he changes that narrative. Until he changes that narrative. We're slandering. Until he changes that narrative. We're slandering a player, bro. Until he changes that narrative. We're slandering a player. How long do you have to change as a player?

Like, how many chances do you get in the NBA? A lot of players get a lot of chances. Mike Beasley had a lot of different chances. How many different chances you gave him? You gave him a lot. I don't hear y'all niggas talking. He still got the same chances. I don't want to hear that shit.

What are you talking about? You're acting like he's out of the fucking league. No, because Bobo's getting the unfair treatment on the narrative that he did not create. He's still on the team. He's still playing. You asked me. Coaches have came out and said Bobo has a bad attitude publicly. I didn't say he had a bad attitude.

I'm asking you a question. No one. No one. I said work at it. How many players have coaches came out say bobo Just don't fucking work hard. That's why he ain't getting the opportunity. I heard that before how many I've heard how many? I heard that how many have them come out publicly no no no, so why are we doing it right now? This is pride are we doing this is personal for you?

Why are we doing it right now? You ask the question you said F do a failure. Hey, I didn't ask the question He asked the question you said failure you know, no he asked the question you You're trying to over talk no, I expect stay with the nerve What do I expect if I have sex for my girl in six days and somebody said, what do you expect tonight? Nothing. Nothing. I don't expect shit. I can't say I expect all of it. That's a trash example.

She's your girlfriend. F, F, F. She's your girlfriend. I expect nothing. Why the fuck would she be your girlfriend? If you're expecting no ass and she's your girlfriend, she's fucking somebody else, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? She could be doing her monthly. What do you mean? That's a girlfriend fucking somebody Oh, I think Bobo is, what the fuck was that? Say this again. Do it again. Where will Bobo bring to the Suns?

Oh, Bobo. Oh, I think Bobo is going to be all NBA this year. All NBA. He's going to be an all NBA player. Good. We good? No. We good?

No. Huh? Because it's easy to say Bobo can be an integral part of this team. All NBA. He can give us some pieces. He can give us nine and five. He can give us nine and five. A one-year player that we just signed for one year can give us nine and five. That give us nine and five a one-year player that we just

signed for one year can give us nine and five that's what we need no i hope wow what's so hard about not trashin them no no generational talent no no i'm supposed to say no oh yeah he gonna all right you said failure that's the first thing that's about the failure shit because we ain't got shit wow he said that because of the lap the first four years. He hasn't done it I don't and that's just and that's fair But now he is on a team that he has a chance coming off of his best season Okay, whatever we want to feel about it. All right, man I understand over criticizing pop for the last four years. What do I expect when he get wimpy trash?

fucking trap by y'all logic Fucking last four years years I fucking trash hey my girl ain't gave me fucking pussy in four days trash nigga she not gonna give me nothing you ask same fucking logic you ask me what do I expect un-fucking-believable

like if someone asked me hey tomorrow what do you expect from McCants to go against everything I say I expect that. Nigga, what? That is an inspection. What are you talking about? I've been agreeing with you the whole show up until this point.

But you're asking me what do I expect from the guy. I expect it's called consistency. Consistency has been this. That's what I expect. And that's not failure. If he gives me something better. That's not failure, Gil. He's still in the NBA and he still produce the numbers

He's not giving you zero and zero. He's not giving you zero and zero. He's giving you nine and five. That's not failure trash Wow, I don't know a basketball you watch it compared to who trash compared to who you are he's supposed to know No compared to who himself Compared to himself himself. Okay lottery pick 20 and Compared to who? Himself. Compared to himself? Himself. Okay. Lottery pick, 20 and 10, a lottery pick, generational talent. That was how long ago? A generational talent.

Five years ago, it was 20 and 10. A generational talent. Five years ago for a 44th pick where he was taken. You still not giving him any love? No love. Going into the summer, you were a top five pick. Five years ago. Your attitude, everybody's like,'s are we good on this dude?

Why are you slipped to 44 and when he slipped to 44 we were saying this is a steal like I'm Bonnie Bates, right? What did I say? Mm-hmm. Now if he went out there averaging to Ice filling but how but how is he? Cuz the average suit on me he felt yeah, he got room to grow He got room to grow You up Room to grow because he's a first-year play this only summer league this nigga been in the league four years

He still don't got room to grow That's what you call a most improved player don't you get most improved player is by actually improving wait till the summer then don't you get most improved player by actually fucking improving in the fucking summer then god damn but when you got niggas saying you fucking trash you're asking a failure you're asking me right now. You're not asking me after the envy You're asking me right now in today's time. So all I can go is today. I can't give you some Hey, bobo gonna be most improved player. I guarantee your poor Your portable ball

I'm in your corner my nigga. Oh, yeah, if you're watching this pull up to gills are underdog I go for the underdog. Hey, I go for the underdog and I want y'all to I go for the I won't let you about to run up in here like I'm just Just so we understand His leg you big-ass or not just that we understand we understand I'm going for the underdogs. Let's go We are underdog fantasy. We move under just so we understand I fucking dare you Read that to the king Read it. You want me to read it read it what I say to the king?

So Bobo just got waved. Come on. If anyone could pull out his dominant side is you you Rui Bobo ad Reeves Let's go 80 safety net and create his own shot. Who is that to? LeBron Raymond Why. LeBron Raymond James. Why would you read that out loud? I'm reading what Gil said. Just in case you think that I'm against this, man. You just called him a failure 16 times. Of right now.

Of right now. You asking me right now? I can't project this motherfucker's going to be talented. So what was that, last week? You tweeted that? So you changed from last week? Cuz he didn't go into the Lakers to now. He's a failure. What if he went to the Sun? What did I say you? Heard he was lazy as fuck

Thought it would be great if he played with you because you will bring out his dominant side Hmm now he's a failure because we to the Sun cuz nobody over there You change okay, he there can bring out his dominant side. So KD can't bring out his dominant side? Booker can't bring out his dominant side? Gil will work in the front for Bobo. Bradley Beal can't bring out his dominant side? You're talking to some shit that hasn't happened.

I'm here. I'm talking about what has happened in the last four years. Nine and five. I don't expect shit. Nine and five. That's what I expect. Nine and five ain't shit for me. For Bobo?

If we come out here and have nine and five, what would you be saying? On a one-year deal, I'm getting paid to come in here with Aiden, with Bill, with Booker, and KD. And I'm going to give you 10 points a game with five rebounds on that team. That is a bonus. I'm getting an integral part and I'm getting production because it's 10 points in which I wasn't

going to get nowhere else because who the fuck else we going to get? We don't even have the room to get nobody else. We got Eric Gordon. We got Okubunote, whatever that nigga name. Josh Jacoby. Like, who do we got that's going to score? Are you going to give me 10 points? Ooh. Bobo going to give me 10?

Ooh, 10 points. Oh my Lord, I need it. Because look, look, because this... How much is Bradley Beal going to give me? Don't care. A lot. He's going to give me 18, 20? Mm-hmm. 18, 20.

Booker's going to give me what? 25? KD's going to give me what? 25? 27, yeah. Ayton's going to give me what?? 27 yeah, Aiden's gonna give me what 17 18 if he's there. Okay, so how much does Bobo really have to give me? I mean off the bench. I mean, I always always in he's a bitch Give me 10 and 10 lottery 10 and 8 A lottery pick

I'm already calling him a fucking failure A lottery pick, a top five pick, bench player I like bringing Anthony Bennett back in the league and be like, hey, hey He pulls the give me fucking 20 and 10 because he went number one pick People to give me 20 and 10 Settle for 10 No, we settle for 10 cuz we already got another one year. We got killers on our team I have is nine and five and they don't want them. What the fuck are you talking about? So why did nine and five I decide them they don't want why did they sign them because they don't want them Bobo?

23 if Check average nine. Why if you are we like, oh, he's a bust. He's horrible. Why are we if-ing Chet? Why are we bringing Chet in here? Because we know you know Bobo's better than Chet. And if Chet averaged 9, you would be like, oh, that's a bust. Chet ain't even played a game yet. I know.

So what are we talking about? So if Chet starts the whole fucking season and he averages 20 and 10, that is nothing in comparison to what Bobo Opportunity had. He didn't get to start a whole fucking season. Well, if he averaged 20 and 10, you would look stupid because you said Bobo's better. I... He is better.

If he averages 20 and 10 and he starts the whole fucking 82 games, there is no comparison because Bobo never had that opportunity. Why? Why? It's been four years. Now we're saying why. Now we're saying why. Why? Now we're saying why. You're saying... Can we go to the next?

What's up, man? You're saying... What pick was Joker? Here we go with this. Like 41st? 41st, right? He did what he had to do to become a starter.

What does Imani Bates do? J. Mark Green? Right. Yeah, they put themselves... Did they have coaches hating on him? Oh, you're saying his own coach hates on him. Oh, you're saying his own coaches on them

Did you do a deeper coach? Did he have narratives out there about whether he played hard or if he out here buying? Bags and Gucci and he in the club. Come on your niggas put the fucking narrative on the nigga, man Everybody buys bags and Gucci, but everybody got swag and show up when they want it, man What you talking about? He get to grow. Everybody is young. Like he was talking about with Ja. He young.

He young. He young. He young. He going to grow from these mistakes. But then all of a sudden, the narrative ain't, hey, man. This motherfucker dumb. He dumb. Ain't no narrative saying that he's dumb.

Who said he was dumb? It's the narrative saying he young. He young. He going to make mistakes. You know, when he he was 24 I would made mistakes like this too so damn we just gonna bash Bobo it's Dan that's crazy how many years you're gonna give bubble again before so if he doesn't play for as many years as he does play hard if he doesn't play the. But he does play hard. If he doesn't play his sons. But he does play hard. If he doesn't play his sons, are you going to say the same thing? Oh, they just hating on him over there.

They didn't need him. You're one of those guys. They didn't need him. You're hating on him. They didn't need him. I wasn't taught. They didn't need him. I wasn't taught the coach hating on me.

I was taught if I'm not playing, do something about it. And I'll work you. I wasn't playing 40 games. Do something about it. I taught my dad, these motherfuckers ain't playing me. Well, keep fucking working. Alright, bet. Yeah. I mean, that's all you get. I'm supposed to just give

my daddy, Bobo, whatever the fuck my daddy name is, Manute, I'm supposed to inherit all these minutes because of my fucking dad. Let me give you a story. I have a son. I have a son. You know what I tell him? Create your own fucking name. You give me your story, yeah.

Your own name. You go out there and you play hard. Matt Daugherty was my coach. That's what's up. Right? You know what he told me? What did he tell you? He said, you'll never be like Michael Jordan.

Okay. Because he never averaged 20 points. Dean Smith never let anyone average over 20 points at this school. You're no different. You know what happened? I was averaging 21.8 at that time. You're no different. You know what happened? I was averaging 21.8 at that time. He benched me for four games.

You know what my average went? From 21 to 17. You know what he said after that? I fucking told you. I fucking told you. Okay, what's that got to do with ball? It has everything to do with a coach having a fucking narrative

and trying to prove a fucking point to break your ass. It don't matter. It don't fucking matter. You know what the next coach did? What did he do? He came in. He added on to that. Do you know who that was?

Roy Williams. He was the next coach came in. And when he came in and said, let me finish. I'm tired of calling you guys Rashad and Rashaun and Jawai. Why can't I call you Peter, John, and Billy? Say, because my name's Rashad. Yeah. After that, benched.

I had to have a private meeting with Coach to tell him, hey, listen, you don't want my dad to come in here. We need to have a real conversation. So the riffs with your coach is different from what you niggas think Because the shit is fucking real, but if you ain't never had the experience you can't really say it You can't never say it. I've never you can't never the code You've never had a riff with a coach. No, you don't know if Bobo's had his wrists with his coach and who's you've never had Understanding with it what a play when you talk to a player you be like man, what's been going on?

Would you say man? Snickers been hating on me man. I don't understand it. a player. When you talk to a player, you be like, man, what's been going on with you? You say, man, this nigga's been hating on me, man. I don't understand it. I just want to play. Ain't that what Zion say? I just want to hoop. There's more players that just want to have that conversation and just say, I just want to fucking hoop. And now, if we as players are going to cut our players down and not give them an opportunity. Hey, question.

Then we fucking lose. We fucking lose. Question. Hey, yo, so how was your attitude during those four games? Exactly what he has a riffle to cook. I have to cheer. I'm a team player I have to cheer and you know what happened when I did get inserted back into the starting lineup 20 25 27 trying to bring my team back not my points back my team cuz we lost those three games You say yeah private meetings with coaches,

right? Y'all niggas got me up, boy. I'm just saying. Bowl, bowl, I'm fucking with you, bro. I teach my son, and that goes for all you kids out there, you can't beat your coach. Okay? You can't beat your coach. I beat my

coach. All the talking back, get your ass bitch. Do your fucking coach. All the talking back, get your ass, bitch. Do your fucking job. The reason I've never been in a rift with the coach, because no matter what they put in front of me, I did it. You can't break,

I break you. I don't break you by talking back to you. You say, Gil, hey, you've been fucking up, run five miles, all right, what time do I need to beat?

Yeah, Matt Doherty was there. You better talk, you better, hey, go ask the U of A. I ran five miles every I bet what time do I need to beat? Yeah. You better talk. Hey, go ask the U of A. I ran five miles every fucking day. Didn't say shit. Didn't say nothing.

I don't need to talk back to you. I can just... I beat you by just being great. You sit me on the bench, sit me on the bench. When you put me in, I'm going to do my thing. There's no coach that's going to say, Gilbert, talk back. Gilbert was a... No, my son. My never had to. There's no coach that's going to say, Gilbert, talk back. Gilbert was a back. No, my son.

My son don't say. You ask anybody. My son don't say shit. Don't say shit. You can't beat your coach. You can't beat a rep. You can't beat your coach. I beat my coach.

You can't beat your coach. He was fired. Just who? He was fired. You can't. He was fired. You call any coach right now in America that's recruiting my son, they're going to say his mannerisms. He don't say nothing. You can't tell if he's playing good or playing bad.

He's not going to say nothing to his coach. He ain't going to say nothing to nobody. He going to fucking play his game. So again, if you're Bobo and you haven't proven to be a LeBron James shut the fuck up and just go out there and do your thing Maybe that what I'm sitting for you. Yeah, I've told this story. I was sitting Didn't play The the the therapy therapist we had they told me hey, maybe you need to change your fucking attitude Take this shit seriously you come in here with this goofball attitude

They're treating you like a goofball. How about take it seriously? So you want this so I changed with their but no they had it they had them there In college no in me. Oh, okay. So I was playing no games. I have one right I was playing no game So he said that that's always change your attitude how you approach this building. So I'm coming no games. I have one threat. I was playing no game. So he said that that's always a change You added to how you approached this building. So I'm coming here laughing and shit. It's not about your game It's about your attitude They don't think you serious to put you on the court and I think I changed that and I think that's what it is with Bubble it's not like they just don't think he's serious about it about the game. I'm

Hmm. I'm telling you I wasn't because I changed that one week later I got I got a chance to get in the game. Because that's half of it anyway. It didn't take me four years. Because that's half of it, how you go on the court, too, is what you do off the court. Yep. 40 games. That's one of the biggest.

40 games not playing. I changed my attitude for a week. I started. Rookie of the month. Started the next year. Just a fucking attitude change. Looked at the game. I didn't change my skill level.

Changed my attitude. Yeah. I looked at it different. So I don't know what Bobo's attitude is, but whatever it is... You don't know what Bobo's... Whatever it is, I can tell you for the last four years

it ain't worked in his favor. You can keep the attitude all you want. It usually don't. It ain't gonna work in your favor. It usually don't. I know. It usually don't. So that means...

So what do I expect? I expect him to keep the same attitude he He's had for the last four years in the same shit is gonna happen We're gonna be talking about the same shit next summer bobo on another team Mmm-hmm bobo and I'm rooting for you big Big me too big fella You see I try to get him like this I hit the block I hit the run James a fella You'll, I hit LeBron. I hit LeBron. You see, I tried to get him in the Lakers. I hit LeBron. I hit LeBron James. Big fella. Gil reached out to LeBron.

Soon as he hit free agency, LeBron. I'm rooting for you, big fella. I saw the messages. I'm not going to tell you what LeBron said because that's not how we get down on Gil's arena. But Gil was advocating for a ball. But LeBron appeared to be receptive to it. I would just say that LeBron wasn't hating. But that was fair.

I like how you approached it. I wish I had a better attitude like that when I was young. Like, just how, perspective of the game. Like, you know, I love to work. Like, I love to be in the gym and work. But I think my attitude could have been, you know, should have been better. You know, just focus on more of the game. Like, I like what you said about what you teach your son.

Just focus, just let your game do the talking. Because it's like, it's real though. Like, we can't control. Like, they're going to do what they want anyway. Like, everybody's going to do politics. Everything's going to happen

the way they want. But if you just stay in that gym and just locked in, and that's what helped me at Oak Hill. Like, me getting away and being able to get up every morning at 5 a.m. and work and, you know,

be up knowing that I'm up earlier than guys back at home and stuff like that. So, no, that was dope, though. Like, that was good. That was a good way to think of it to me. So let's keep this thing moving. Last topic of the day, very spirited conversation debate. That's what you get on Gil's Arena.

Remember, we're presented by Underdog Fantasy. That was good. Now, I respect all y'all opinions and perspectives. Rashad, I see your side of it. I definitely have a coach. I mean, he had the shirt on. I could dare you and I dare And you see the outcome The chat don't speak for yeah, they're gonna say hey, I didn't know none of that shit happened.

I think every player has individual issues that they deal with. Sometimes you get coaches that are assholes. That's just a part of life. But to your point too, you got to deal with it. You ain't going to ever beat that coach, unfortunately. That's just kind of what it is. Especially for the younger generation. You got a coach you don't see eye to eye with. Change

the scenery because he getting paid, you not, unless you get the NIL back. But let's talk a little bit about Draymond and this Jordan Poole situation. Seems like it should have almost been 300 days since the incident happened. We're in fucking July. Supposed to be minor. You know, I wake up this morning feeling good.

You know, make me a little smoothie. Next thing I know. Smoothie. I'm losing weight, Gil. It's about to be the anniversary of the punch. I'm losing weight. For sure. It's about to be the anniversary of the punch. I'm losing weight. For sure. It's about to be the anniversary of the punch.

We might have to do a function for it, make some cookies or something. But the Draymond punch-up pool happened, like I said, nearly 300 days ago, and the impact is still being felt to this very day. Even though the pool went from the Warriors to the Wizards, and it appears they've moved on, you really haven't heard shit from the pool side. Draymond Green is still bringing up old shit in an interview with friend of the program, Pat Bev on his podcast. Draymond offers

more insight into factors that led to the one-hitter quitter. I don't just hit people. Dialogue, of course, happens over time, and you usually ain't just triggered by something like that fast, you know, to that degree. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is a team, you know what I'm saying? Like, ain't nobody on my team triggering me, you know, to that degree. You know what I'm saying? Like this is a team,

you know what I'm saying? Like ain't nobody on my team triggering me, you know, in an instant. You know, we know stuff that you don't say

amongst men, you know what I'm saying? We, you know, we know, you know, things that you have to stand on.

Wow. So the clip got the attention of Jordan Poole's dad, Anthony, who responded with the following tweet. I'm going to stand on this. That is some BS. JP was his guy, and he avoided me all last year.

He's a soft-ass bitch, and I'm standing on this, and he didn't apologize to me and my wife. So he lame, and me and him can meet any time he want. So Draymond saw that. He saw a lot of tweets today. We're going to, you know, hopefully have time to get to all of them. Also, that's more for KG. But Draymond responded, that's so cute. It's impossible to avoid you in arena for a year, champ.

I got to get my family from the family room every game. And stop using those words. They usually don't go well amongst men. So first and foremost Let's just start with why is Draymond Still talking about the pool Low-key he's basically said that's the type of talk they got your son fucked up They found me

Watch the word It sound like some deep, deep old red. You want some of this too, old man? He better watch some words. That's what got the little nigga dry. You can be next. You want some of this too, old man? That sounds like he was triggered. In an instant. I'm predicting what the fuck he just said. You've been triggered.

Calm your sensitive ass down. We all grown. You talking about certain things you don't say man listen man but you call somebody a soft ass bitch right we don't know I'm just gonna be honest but look that's what the dad said to Drake but that's what I'm saying it's just them the words that look like when you look at we've been

in the triggered triggered in an instance he said ain't nothing just triggering then you can say to justiggered in an instant. He said, ain't nothing, nigga, just triggering. Ain't nothing you can say to just trigger me in an instant. Something said was triggering in you in an instant, my nigga. He triggered you. And you knocked his ass out.

Just stand on that shit, nigga. Danny won't get to say it. He just said, hey, watch your toes. Pops, Pops, chill the fuck out. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, stand on it. Watch your toes.

And Pops would have been able to account. If Pops really felt that way, he would have said something to Draymond every time. You should have been said something. You should have been said something. You're at all year. The father's tweet, it wouldn't make sense because

we understand that he has a family, so he hasn't been at Players Lounge. Say something. I've been in that word family room something Don't say nothing at all say nothing at all it ain't that awkward I mean like I mean what happened here right all the police security can't get out of here I just I mean I just didn't that's the same place Question about your both father somebody one hit or quit or your child and you got to see this person in the family room As long as something happened

Come on, you know big your son man How big is the dude Draymond green He'd be really play football being being hit Elijah. I'm gonna get him up out of here Hey, son, listen, you better stop fucking with those If you keep't fight them Shut up What's on the sucker punch

Lakers bumpy They say Bobby was the player cuz he was we don't see he sees night. He hit your son get your ass in this Just Trump. I got this folk. I got this. Hey, wow get your ass in this trunk. I got this folk. I got this Hey, wow, get your ass in this trunk. We're gonna ride up on these niggas about to ride up on him I mean, it says that's father was 65 Well, I'm probably shit about niggas is young now. Do you know what I'm saying? You we really expect his daddy to go. I mean what they he should have said something He should just put him to the side yo, let's go talk for a second. Keep your hands off my sons.

I'm not saying they need to have a physical altercation, but how are you responding in that situation? Mr. B. Because it seems like they kept it quiet, and now we still got to hear about this shit in July. I like to think like Michael Cardione. Get him. Get him. He's got to go. I'm with you. He gotta go. He gotta go. He gotta go.

He just gotta go. I'm with you, but I mean- He just gotta go. He gotta go. My son got to stand up for himself. Why you messing with this, man? First of all, I'm going to look at my son like, hey, man- What you say?

You got $123 million, right? Well, we going to put that in jeopardy. I'm just saying, you got $123. You can hire whoever you can hire whoever you? Hi, I just pray for me. I can tweet this what we do. I can tweet it Abigail rewind Play it again Play it again. We see this shit on film. Mm-hmm. The world is watching this shit play it again

Now this ain't on film Yeah, it's different's different now I think the dash would have just just talked to him though during the season though he could have put him to the side because if he older wait you say 56 like this form to the side just won't to the side I just want to know what I mean instead of like you had all year but I'm sitting going through the same like today at the end day I mean I understand that's some crazy shit I really think as we really break down though just the dynamics of that situation the shit that we're not factoring in because you gotta go to that family room every day

So there's a walk by us. So he's awkward breathing the same air That's why the father's tweet wouldn't make sense to me because Draymond has kids and he has a wife So he's going in that players lounge right every single day pick all the sides up So do you not play with his kids out? Do you make it even to me? Not one of your kids I you're not one of mine? I mean When is it when bring a little bit here? That's funny, I don't know I mean, but yeah, I would have been said I would have been said something I wouldn't wait

Would you oh, yeah, I would assess I mean as the pop if that's the case So I'm gonna say something now because my son's traded. How about this? Let's try this one You get in this situation in the locker room and your daddy got to say something for you. Yeah, that's what it's different That's what I'm gonna ask you this but you were there as Draymond is the very he the older 30 plus you the younger you do Yeah, but I'm not saying it got to get to that All I'm saying is though you can you can pull to the side and say and have a conversation Yeah, this is my father. I mean my father's gonna say something. I mean, I mean I mean, I mean, that's the same thing

My dad would your dad would probably do if you were younger getting in the fight coming here Right my my power is that but ain't nobody gonna do no putting hands on me though like that but I'm just saying is he can pull him to the side have a conversation with your teammate as a grown as gentleman yeah gentlemen I'm in here every day I see you all the time every holiday knowledge you like and this is like like that I see with like I'm so we still talk I mean you're in the NBA come on y, y'all. You're in the NBA, and we got a problem in the locker room, and my daddy got a cold. Let's just say, hey, what's up?

If they had dinner before, like Thanksgiving dinner, like Draymond was the guy. He was over at the crib, and they used to be cordial, right? Then Pops is like, all of a sudden, after this punch, ain't no conversations. We're walking by. That's at that point. This like this is a Michigan Michigan State number one and this is why they should be able to have a conversation I get what we trying to

say but realistically my daddy called you and I say on my behave on my on my behalf how you looking at me how you looking at me how you looking how you ain't nothing about call it we just wanted to each other because we're in the same family. Yeah, and we're in the family room. This could just be a conversation. I'm not looking at you different because Pops ran up on you because I can't control Pops. I mean, shit, Pops is part of it. Pops don't run up on you because he want to. I'm not asking Pops to do that.

I'm not asking Pops to go say something to Draymond. Pops is like, I'm about to say something to that nigga. I can say if Pops ain't you, you, let's go. Because I'm sure. And I'm going to sit you two down, and then can say it because that's you you let's go because I'm gonna sit you two down And y'all gonna talk about what's going on and I'm the middle person I get that but my daddy Calling in on my behalf. He didn't Make me look weak as fuck right now, but you said call it Everything now

motherfucking that's not I mean because no because they could just be going in the family room. Nigga, I ain't gonna throw me in everything now. For your motherfucking... That's not... I mean, because... No, because they could just be going through the family room. And it might be people on the street that just might want to get... Might want to get that Draymond just in Milwaukee. Just because of... But we saw that. You know what I'm saying? So what's the difference?

In the Milwaukee game where he got into it with the fan. The fan told him, we're giving you a pass for the Georgia Bulls. That's the father. If you're gonna step in, you are stepping in as a mediator. I'm sorry. Not a nigga throwing gas on you. We just said... But we did that. That's what I said. It's not a mediator. It's a father. He's stepping in as a mediator. I'm not a nigga throwing gas. We just said but we did know That's not a mediator. It's a father. He's that right as a father, but you might have

My son and him Tim and his teammate got up. I'm gonna sit both them down. What is the problem? Y'all look this is y'all gotta sit here together. But this is what I'm saying. They had all year to do that Yeah, so the tweet yes don't make sense But what I'm saying is why say the tweet when you could have said all this all year like you could have sent them down Because there's that definitely before then y'all had drinks and y'all went out to dinner before I have family Yeah, like, you know things with the families around so why you just didn't do it during the season You could have just set them down after practice or whatever and be like Even a pool's dad responding now. This is July right?

It's so they but I'm saying we haven't heard shit from that family. So now you got to see this clip still on social. It almost seems like Draymond's egging it on even more, saying that this was a build up. You want to fight, so he going to keep that up. I mean, they're always going to bring it up. I mean, you know, until next season.

And then they probably won't bring it up anymore. She is. Woof. I mean, there's no reason to bring it up anymore. But it is awkward. He going to foul the shit out of that man. It is awkward. Tell your daddy, shut up. I mean, well, actually, to bring it up anymore. He gonna foul the shit out of that man. It is awkward. Tell your daddy,

shut up. Well, actually, my bad, because they're going to keep doing the anniversary every year. No, just because it came up

after the nigga was traded. Like, for Pops to say it now is weird. Then Washington asked him too, right? You talked to Draymond? Yeah, they asked him.

He didn't respond, right? Pool got us just stealing the next person to ask him. Pool got to come on here, man. Pool just got to come on here, man. Hey, Pool, for the next person to ask them full gotta come on here Who just got a come on here a pool for a next person asked you not they asked out man. No fall You got to take off man, you got to get a win that's hilarious you got to get away you got to get away

Yeah, well this year he will this year. I think I have a good year Teammate you got to do one of the media people Just one that nobody likes soon as he say such a It be like you dream on knocked out the reporter and then they say the reporter my oh, that's the knockout We've talked about this before so I think think the thing that makes it fucked up, Rashad, me and you fighting, that's actually a fair fight. That's one thing. We can probably overcome that. We'll figure it out. We'll respect each other as men. You sucker punched me.

It's a different, it's a fucking different mode of response. Wait, it wasn't a sucker punch. Gilbert. Gilbert. Push. Get out my space. Get out my space. You in my, you just walked all. Get out my space. Get out my space. You just walked all the way in my space. Rule number one.

I don't know whose dad is teaching who, but do not ever come into my space without your hands up. If I push you out of my space, bro, just back up. I expect. No, ain't no I expect nothing. If I push you out of my space and you run back up, I think you're going to punch. No, because you're my teammate and I'm giving you to. No, ain't no I expect nothing. If I push you out of my space, and you run back up, I think you're going to punch. No, because you're my teammate, and I'm giving you grace. My nigga, back up, man. Nah, because that conversation had to be.

I know. That conversation had to be, bitch, that something. Nah, it wasn't. It felt like Doughboy and Ricky. Something had to be said, like, man, get out of my face, bitch, that something. Man, back up, man. Nah, nah. I'm talking before the back up.

Nah, before the back up. Before the back up, though. Make me come. They was on the line. Trigger work. Right, before the back up Before the back up though They was on the line They was talking about I get more pussy than you Nah So why haven't it been disclosed with what was said Why haven't Draymond said

I think Draymond don't wanna say it Draymond don't wanna say it Cause it was petty He don't wanna tell the world what the fuck the nigga really said Cause it's fucking petty and we all Don't look at him like nigga you hit him because of that We know some round what is that? Gotta do it a check or some with that or a movie to come out and tell us what the fuck is saying

What did you say to? Y'all know y'all got trigger words that somebody says that shit to you in the tone They say it'll make you snap now The second thing is though after the punch if we watch that video again teammates were very reluctant to get involved which either leads me to believe that they heard what was said it was like damn you Deserve to get banged for that or whatever the fact of it, but it was definitely like oh, I'm nobody saying what was said But my point I mean nobody was rushing in from just what we know about players, right? From us. We're looking at like damn. He snuffed him right if that was your man's right and

Your man just got dropped you going after drama percent Unless I don't got no man's on the phone. It's not one person went in his defense. I know these niggas fuck with me like that Because clay what clay if that was Steph, Clay going to jump in, right? We're going. Both of them was like, at least a grab. At least a shoulder grab. Everybody's like, I ain't see nothing. They said they ain't see it.

Everybody watching these two, boom. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Hey, can I get some water? I think everybody was shocked. Everybody was shocked. Everybody was looking like, oh, shit. They said they ain't see it.

That's what I'm saying. We see them seeing it. We got the tape. We got But the fact that nobody's we all if there's a fight we all go after the most aggressive person Right and nobody well you have to make Nobody get him up. So it's like him up get him up, but I'm saying it's like what are we? What are we missing here? What was said so bad that the rest of the players like I ain't getting that That's what I'm saying. We need to know here? What was said so bad that the rest of the players are like, I ain't getting that.

That's what I'm saying. We need to know what the fuck was said, man. It had to be bad. It had to be bad. It had to be something. It got to be over a chick or it got to be something, bitch. Yeah, you got to be. Mark. I know you are, Mark.

Duke shooter. You a Duke shooter. You a motherfucker. You be fucking niggas. You gay. The way he worded it to his father, we can just look at the father. You sound just like your son. You better watch out. That's what got him Walking in the one some tall man. No

All right now it's time for my favorite segment of the show we got mostly fans on deck that's when we're almost done Mmm, but my great great question of the fans I don't care about their proximity to the finish of the show as much as just really getting to connect with these fans. They've been dropping good questions in the chat. We also got to talk about that Draymond and KG situation. We'll probably hit that tomorrow with the fake tweet. Damn, KG. Elon Musk got involved. It was accounts getting suspended.

It was a rough day for basketball. So first question is from DK. It's for you, Gil. Are you the most famous person named Gilbert? Yes. Gilbert the... Gilbert Gottfried? Yeah, for Gottfried.

Are you more famous than Gilbert Gottfried? Yeah, hell yeah. Gilbert? Hell yeah. Who would give who buckets? I mean, I'm going to give him buckets. I mean... That was up all night, boy.

Oh, no. USA, up all night. Whenever I go to Gibbs... Gilbert? Whenever I go to Gibbs and night boy. Oh, no USA all night whenever I go to give Whenever I go to gives and I put Gilbert in it's all him. Hey, what's eating Gilbert great? What other Gilbert's are we good? We only know one Gilbert Leonardo DiCaprio Gilbert great. I already know I'm just saying Gilbert Gottfried probably I don't know more famous than you nah Yeah, y'all both try to get a table with Delilah who get the table good at the lightless So cut me I mean, all right

Barbie cuz I mean red carpet event probably him Right. Yeah, they do regard free. I think passed away. So rest in peace to Gilbert Godfrey, but oh then I'm the most famous one Yeah So you definitely get the table, Gil. He's the most famous Gilbert ever. Ever. Damn, you're looking at Gilbert Gottfried, dude. We can't talk about shit on this show, man. R.I.P. Gilbert Gottfried. He's a legend. He passed away last year.

So you're getting the table now, Gil. Yep. Winner by default. Most famous Gil on the planet now. All right, question number two is from Chris Lewis. Who was the one player that brought you joy to kill? So who was the one player it brought you joy to kill? So who was the one player it brought you joy to kill on the court? Like you enjoyed embarrassing his family.

I don't know. I know he got one. Mine was David Wesley. Wow. Okay. He has I supposed his little ass up His little ass up. You did Wesley. Hey, what's for you? Get that big him and Luther head you guys be Put the niggas down in that damn dungeon down there smell like pine or I think to me anybody in the class of 08 He's right through everybody I was number one, so anytime. Who was that, Drew DeMar?

Everybody. Whoever. Isaiah Thomas was in that crew too? 2008 class. If you graduated 08, yeah, you were right here. Playing. Oooh! I taught y'all. How about you?

I love to play. I mean, I just love playing against the Lakers okay you know I know my friends we're watching that game hmm but like a player himself Oh shit oh eight or the Madison Square Garden torching up in the Madison Square Garden yeah what who made you who made you do this yeah I think massive for sure though I don't know players like I don't really have beef with, like, players, certain players. You had a list, bro, in your blog. You definitely had to have a list.

You had a list of players. When you started going off, you had a list. I'm going to kill this nigga. You remember the list itself, like, I had a lot of, I mean, our draft list. But, you know, most of the players that's drafted are big men. So it wasn't really no personal personal okay it was no personal like you know my class you know you got tinsley um we got tinsley we got tony parker they were more like friends you know you know i won an nvp all-star game tinsley's one give me give me that rock man yeah but like that 60 wasn't like

personal dan williams 55 against Aaron like yeah like that 55 verse now It looked personal like them says like personal. Okay, maybe okay the LeBron shit look personal probably Gary Payton in Your paper you're up to the show Let it be like when when cuz how Gary did me my first years that was it was embarrassing Even though he saved me from like he even to me If I was a I type I was for 50 and a half And because of that every time we played him

Personally once I got my, it was basically one-on-one. Every time. I don't care what the play was. When I seen Gary match up, it was one-on-one. I got to change mine then. Kyle Corver. Yeah, I targeted him. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. Oh, yeah, I went out there. I went out there. As soon as I was, oh, give me, I'll play. Give it to me. I got him all day. That was my guy. For sure.

All right, well, that concludes. One question. Yeah, that was two questions one more but let me host let me do my Him him Last last question we got one more With expanding the NBA adding teams make it better worse or have no change on the list or so expansion. How do we feel about it? worse About diluting the murder. I mean it gives more players a chance more bags Like Seattle and Vegas. Can we get some change that super teams? That's a better question what what cities two cities should have an NBA team? Yeah.

I think personally, you know, I'm biased because I'm from there, but when they had a team there that did well, Tampa. You're from Tampa? I think Tampa, Florida should have a team. I just think the city's just a better city overall. Better than Orlando. It's hooked up. I think so.

I think Seattle should have one for sure. They already have one. Seattle? Bring it back. You don't give a nut to you. New city. Seattle was a good city though. I know, Seattle was a good one. Or is Vegas too turnt up? Vegas? I mean the way that- Vegas definitely need one. The way the city is like the way it is. I mean, it's like they love basketball. Yeah. They building that arena by Circus Circus. Albuquerque.

They had the Thunderbirds back in the D League. How was that? What was that? Albuquerque is interesting. I used to go to coop camp out there all the time with Michael Cooper. This is one city, I mean, one state that I don't think they got nothing, you know, New Mexico.

New Mexico. If they said, like, Kansas City, Missouri, that area. I just knew Tampa Tampa back in Seattle Vancouver They got Memphis in Tennessee, you know, I know no no no no no another overseas team Puerto Rico, Virginia, Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico. We can get it to me. Yeah, that's That's why American Hawaii long that electrical grid. Why Hawaii is that is that hard from? Yeah, that's I mean that's a flight from the East Coast to there, right? That's like 10

10 11 hour you come from the East Coast, but just make a play a bunch of games like how far is Miami from Puerto Rico? I've never been Like I were to me already a bunch of games. Like how far is Miami from Puerto Rico? I've never been. Like an hour or two? Hour? Three hour flight from Miami? So that's a nine hour flight from the west coast? Nah, but you wouldn't do the straight flight. You would do the east coast. Make a fly spirit and earn it. Make a fly spirit. I say Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Hawaii and Puerto Rico and Vegas. Yeah. A lot of good cities. Chet, drop us in what city you think deserves an NBA expansion team.

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