Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down Harden & The Winless Clippers
Episode Date: November 13, 2023Gil's Arena Breaks Down James Harden & The Winless Los Angeles Clippers as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew discuss what has happened to the Clippers since the James Harden trade and whether or... not this skid is just a blip on the radar for Kawhi Leonard, Paul George and Russell Westbrook's Squad or if a larger issue is present. They also react to all things NBA from this weekend including, Draymond Green's latest ejection, Tyrese Maxey going HIBACHI Time, and Kevin Durant saying friends compete harder in the NBA. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:20 Tuff Crowd x Curry Collab 0:05:04 Should Draymond Chill Out? 0:09:25 Does Draymond Help or Hurt The Dubs? 0:17:17 Did Anyone Try to Son You?? 0:26:29 Will The Wolves Win a Playoff Series? 0:29:05 Norris Cole Rejoins The Show 0:35:56 Trading For Harden Made The Clippers Worse 0:37:45 Time For Clippers To Start Shaking Things Up? 0:53:23 Is Ty Lue To Blame For Clippers Losing Streak? 1:03:01 Can Clippers Be a Top 4 Seed? 1:09:24 Tyrese Maxey Drops 50!! 1:16:07 Are Maxey and Embiid The NBA's Best Duo? 1:22:21 Gil's Big Idea For the All Star Game 1:22:50 Breaking Down the Bucks Without Dame 1:33:51 Thanasis Antetokounmpo's Place In The NBA 1:39:47 Friends Compete Harder Against Eachother In The NBA 1:46:26 MostlyFans 2:12:39 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Brandon, you did the court dedication at Raleigh Park in Gardena.
Yeah.
Whole crew pulled up, showed love.
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Oh, man, it was just good to see a lot of my family, my friends,
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Gil came out.
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Well, we got a jam-packed show for y'all today,
and two-time NBA champ Norris Cole,
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Here's what we got cooking. Clippers still
winless in the Harden era, but what
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on track? Draymond
got ejected this weekend after getting into it
with Donovan Mitchell, but do Dray's antics
help or hurt the Dubs?
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That's what I would do if I was you. So we're going to get right into it today. Got to talk a little
Draymond. Draymond was ejected from the Warriors Cavs game this weekend. After taking a shot
at Donovan Mitchell, Mitchell returned the favor on the next play and both men got into
a heated altercation. So let's take a look right there.
You see the Dre shove that started it all off.
Officials reviewed the play,
gave Dre a tech to shove.
Mitchell was given a common foul.
That was Dre's second tech of the game.
He got the boot.
And Donovan Mitchell on his way out
made sure to tell the man,
deuces!
But after the game, Dre responded to everybody that has a problem with how he plays, posted
this on his IG story saying quote, I'm in year 12 and y'all still telling me to stop
being Draymond.
Don't get a tech.
Blah, blah, blah.
12 years later and y'all still trying to coach me on how to be me.
I am better at being Draymond than anybody.
Imagine if I told y'all how to do your job. You'd look at me
crazy. I thought y'all should know how dumb
you all look trying to tell me how to be me.
If y'all had some advice for
your own lives, the world would be a much better
place and you would be far better at
your job than your mediocre outputs.
Happy Sunday, good people.
Right back at it.
Liking that.
And well, damn.
Well, damn. Well, damn.
Well, damn.
Dre, you know the mediocre outputs
that other people are doing?
I know.
They might be good at their job.
Cut their legs off.
Yeah.
Hey, I'm with you, god damn it.
When in doubt,
just call people broke.
That's basically.
Basically.
Say it in a nice way.
Politely.
Respectfully, shut your broke ass up. Let me be me but Gil start with you does Draymond need to chill at this point in his career
I mean did uh, Dennis Rodman chill at the end of his career. He was definitely I mean, you know
It's he's gonna go out the way he started
You know, so it's just one of those things where you know, that's how he plays the game and you know
That's between him and his team, you know mates that you know, if he's getting text and it's costing them games
That's that's that locker room right, you know so far they got four championships on him playing the way he's been playing and doing what?
He's been doing
The fuck are we gonna say?
Yeah, I mean I I'm with the saying.
Like, what are we going to say at this point?
So just keep being you.
It's all right.
It's got you for a ring.
It ain't hurting that bad.
It's not like it's, you know.
I think he might have got him way like one time.
He got suspended with game five or six and one of them.
2016.
2016, right.
Other than that, I'm with the bullshit.
Like him making that comment and statement, I'm with that too.
Yeah, man, people need, you don't know what's going on out there, man.
Sit at your desk, shut the fuck up, go home to your fat wife. And chill.
Like, dude.
But let's talk about the play, though.
How do you rewind, go back to something that you didn't call in the first place?
No, that's facts.
Like, that's bullshit.
And don't imagine snitching and shit. Like, go look back what he just did. He pointing and shit. So the next time, see, and this is,
and I hope Draymond don't, but we are the same mindset, right? There's a great chance when they
go play in Cleveland, he gonna
get kicked out the game.
Because he gonna run through him. He gonna do something
to this dude, man. That's just the way
Draymond think. I'm telling you.
Is that the second one or the first one?
No, like, he went and
he fouled Draymond
so they can go look at this play
right here.
Yeah, that play has
nothing to do with that. Yeah, that's what I said. That play has nothing to do with that.
Yeah.
You know what's so funny?
It's always actually...
I was complaining about this last year that don't penalize me for reacting.
So technically, everything I said, Donovan Mitchell did.
Don't penalize me for acting. Penalize me.
Penalize the first person first.
So this is technically the first time they did it,
where they went backwards and said,
all right, Draymond started it.
Yeah, that's bullshit.
Like, that's bullshit.
Thanks for Draymond and the Cavs that their season series is already done.
Oh, they already played it?
Oh, okay, so we can't.
So we're going to have to wait until next year.
Damn!
They got it done quick. like back. Yeah, damn for game two
Yeah
Yeah, that's yeah man Yeah, Kurt Eckerd your sentiments though saying he had no idea how you could go back and review a play two plays ago
Like they had nothing to snitch like no, I I that because he just pushed me down there. Mm-hmm
Hey, so what did they okay? So what did they give him he that for the play that they missed?
Who was that call they gave us the text?
I was gonna get dream on the day to call anything when it happened
So they gave him a tech for the push the when he fell out of bounds the drink when fucking the boy just fell out
Fell out of bounds. They gave him a tech for that.
And that was his second tech?
Yeah.
To kick him out of the game?
Yes.
That was Dre's second tech.
Dog, that's collusion.
You can't do that.
No, you can't do that.
Like, that's collusion.
You're tampering with the game.
Exactly what they did, though.
What's the difference between,
what the,
what's the difference between,
like,
like over and under and rigging the game?
That's a,
you can't do that.
Same thing with Giannis' shit.
Same thing with the Giannis' tech do that. Same thing. We honest shit same thing with the honest tech
Wow, thank you
You can allow this and maybe I can go back and go referee can go back
Manipulate the game. They didn't call anything on
Yeah, that's crazy in in the world where we already think these motherfuckers is crooked y'all suspended the dude
for
For social media defending his self on plays like no that wasn't my play
This is my and he had to pretend it was his brother
Nothing he ain't giving no secrets away. He's protected. He's trying to it wasn't my call
It wasn't my brother call
He gets suspended for that that has nothing to do with real basketball and you have plays
out here going like this.
Yeah, bro.
That's the biggest issue here.
That's the biggest issue in it all.
Referees should not allow to give, it's to the point where we don't know what y'all doing.
We don't know what y'all lives are after this.
We just know what you're doing in the game, and it's actually affecting the outcome.
Absolutely.
Right here?
Yes.
Like everything that happened with something like this.
When the game's over, when they view it, okay, just fine them for that.
It gets a fine.
Yeah.
$2,500 fine, boom.
Keep it moving.
And to your question, though,
Draymond didn't fucking do anything to get kicked out,
so his teammates shouldn't feel any kind of way because he didn't do anything.
I'm saying him being him.
After I get kicked out for some bullshit like that,
of course
I'm act this way yeah of course I'm gonna be all rambunctious and and I'm
gonna do exactly all of this because this was unmerited you didn't call
anything on the plate so that's yeah not s that's that's horse shit so we asked
y'all y'all said you are cool with howmond moves. I'm sure a lot of people are.
It has led to four championships, but like K-Mart pointed out,
the only thing better than four is five.
And it did cost them that 2016 NBA Finals, in hindsight,
him getting kicked out for game five
because of trying to punch LeBron in the junk.
So broader question, do Draymond's antics help or hurt the Dubs?
Good ask, Tim.
Well, I'll go first.
I played the same.
I played with that emotion, that energy, and that...
It helped every team I was on.
Because I was always me.
He's always been him.
You know he can count on him.
He's going to do his job.
One thing he's going to do, he's going to do his job.
And if it becomes anything during the course of the game, he deals with it in real time.
He's not going into the game thinking, I'm going to get kicked out of game five in the
NBA final, I'm going to get suspended for game five.
No.
Some things were going on doing that home whatever you know
The heat of the moment got the best of it. He's human
Human but one thing you know about Draymond green. He gonna do his job and he does it well. Mm-hmm
To y'all point exactly four championships
Could have been five. Yeah hindsight maybe maybe not but? But they were in a great position to have five.
People would love to be in a great position to have five championships.
Trust me.
But, no, man, he is who he is, man.
Like, he plays the game with that.
He wears it on his shoulder.
I was the same way. So, yeah.
It brings what they need.
If he wasn't that,
trust me, they wouldn't have four. Yep. Yeah, so.
Or wouldn't have been in a position to have five at all
if he wasn't that.
So, K, you've been in that enforcer role, and
for you guys, what's it like to
have a teammate like a Draymond
who handles that role for you, just gives you more confidence on the court to know if some shit goes down, you ain it like to have a teammate like a Draymond who handles that role for
you, just give you more confidence on the court to know if some shit goes down, you
ain't got to worry about it?
Can you play with Stackhouse for a little bit?
I'm just saying.
No, he wasn't playing.
I haven't enforced it like that.
At no point in your career do you wish you did?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, my rookie year but it
wasn't like this type of like it was we were still there was still selfish
shoulder it wasn't we didn't really have the the the UDs the K Mars somebody like
you know I get hit hard you running down a lane they gonna close line the fuck
out of you we don't have that yeah and if I did I would have used it to my
ability big dog got 10 grand on you.
Hit that motherfucker hard.
I'll pay that fine for you.
You wouldn't have had to pay me.
No, if somebody did something to you, like,
people used to try to do shit to Earl Borkus out there, right?
No, bruh.
You're not going for none of it, man.
Like, you can ask a few teammates.
There were situations that happened during games,
and we playing certain guys, and they barking, and I'm like, listen, man, y'all better calm
that shit down before I get mad out here, dog.
Can you remember a specific time where you had to do that?
Yeah, absolutely, but we ain't gonna...
Okay, yeah, we're not, okay.
I don't wanna, because it's, yeah. But, yeah, you have to step in and be like, yo, y'all don't want, like, let's, you go to your huddle and we're going to go, because.
Or, better one.
Nene and Oluwakande get into a fight during the game.
I tell Nene, chill.
It ain't even worth it, dog.
Just, next thing I know, they down there swinging.
Look, I'm walking,
I'm trying to play peacemaker,
believe it or not.
All of a sudden, it turns towards me,
like, no, dog, like,
I'm here to,
because they think I'm going to come over there
and get to it.
But no, I'm trying to.
Trying to break it up.
But no, it's,
I've always been that.
Like, if we're in the locker room together, no matter what I feel about you, no matter what I think about you, no matter what we have going on, if we in that shit together and we get into it, we into it.
Like, I'm not, I got you.
Like, if somebody would have hit him hard going to the basket, you best believe.
Guard big, don't matter.
If I felt they did that shit, I got you.
You ain't got to, if I look at you, we good.
And it hurt.
Yeah, yeah.
If you get up slow, best believe.
Dude, I hear Carmen on had nothing to do with me.
On my team, man.
Please tell us the story.
Had nothing to do with me.
Remember your elbow with Isaiah Thomas, had Zeke leaking? Mm-hmm. No, I grew up a bad boys fan. Wait
Yes, fuck off. Absolutely in the 90s. Yes
Absolutely
Probably longer than that. I was a like Isaiah was out like 93
Look up the years look up the year like Zeke got like 25 stitches.
God damn.
Isaiah Thomas got like 25 stitches.
How old was you, 12?
Young.
I was a Bad Boys fan.
I was a Pistons fan growing up.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
So December of 91, you think he gave him 40 stitches?
40.
You do.
Zeke went to the basket.
Carl went right upside it and split him open.
I just had a flashback.
I didn't know I was going to be in the NBA at all.
I had no clue.
That man dropped that thing off on the break.
We was in Jersey.
I had a flashback.
Oh, this is that moment.
Close. It's like you're in me you know, you running home. Oh, that's that dude that yeah, it was one of them
And I went right upside his head by preparation means opportunity and that's when and some click man
I was just like NBA soft shit
Cuz he ain't get up and do nothing
But he got all the muscles big bad you supposed to you hit him that like I'm thinking like you gonna get up and do nothing. He got all them muscles, big, bad. You're supposed to hit him that way.
I'm thinking he's going to get up and I'm going to box
the hell out of him.
Jair Sloan took up for him.
You motherfucker. I'll kick your
ass. I'll fuck you up,
old man.
No. You want some of this too?
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, but it was that.
So just imagine if you're on my team.
We got into it in the garden when I was with the Nuggets
Good luck working mysterious ways. I'm telling I tell people this all the time
When I was with the Nuggets and we got into a fight with in the garden with the Knicks
Oh, yeah, I was in the suit that day. I didn't play
That was a
And they trying to say mellow ran on no, no
Jeffrey's all yeah. Yeah, bro. I
Was in a suit that day. I didn't play and
Had I at that time
You know how to lose all y'all not rules up couldn't get on the bit get up can't stand up
And I crossed that you stand up you gonna cause I got
Everybody was grabbing me like I'm like the one thing I mean I step back like going over there
Yeah, I'm lying. Not me not my reputation at the time. They don't kick me out the league
Like yeah, but now I bought I was like man
Yeah, when the game though, you know, I went right in the back and change
Just in case.
Just in case we get a...
No, but it was, man, I wanted all action.
No, trust me.
No, no.
Yes.
That would have been one for the ages.
That would have been like one of them 90s joints to, yeah, new body,
the same Greg Anthony grab, new body slamming.
Yeah, it would have been one of them.
It would have been Royal Rumble. Had've been out there. I'm telling you
So back back to Draymond one person who ain't worried about Draymond is Anthony Edwards
During the summer Ant-Man said he wanted smoke with the Dubs
What are you looking forward to most of this upcoming season?
Definitely going back to the playoffs and going further in the playoffs to go verse the Warriors. I want to play the Warriors. I want to get to the Warriors.
Wherever they at, I want to get to them.
Why the Warriors so much?
I mean because Draymond talks so much trash. That's pretty much the only reason.
That's the only reason.
That's about it.
I'm sure Draymond saw that clip and the T-Wolves pulled up to the bay for their first of two straight meetings with the Warriors.
And naturally things got heated.
Exception.
And a foul.
And Edwards taking exception to Draymond Green.
What you gonna do about it? and Edwards take an exception to dream on dream
don't find me like that and you know and that's championship mode to me
championship mode very much what you're gonna, yeah. So, Draymond's in championship mode. Draymond asked what you're going to do about it.
Well, what Ed did about it was drop 10 points after that exchange,
despite an off-shooting night, finished with 33-6-7 assists
to lead the Warriors to their sixth straight win.
But let's talk about...
Lead the Warriors?
I mean, to lead the Wolves.
Okay, yeah, I fucked up.
No, I was just like, wait, you got traded?
No, I'd be slipping.
I just wanted to fuck with you.
I know.
Don't worry. You get caught slipping to an SOP point in the show, I'll be ready to retort. No, I'm just like, wait, he got traded. No, I'd be slipping. I just wanted to fuck with you. I know. Don't worry.
You get caught slipping to a so-pointed initial, I'll be ready to retort.
No, I'm just kidding.
But let's talk about, you know, bigger just kind of moments.
K-Mile, I'll start with you.
I think I know the answer, but got to ask.
Did anyone ever try to sun you when you were in the NBA?
No.
No.
Not me. Gil, how about yourself? Anybody ever try to come at you like Draymond came at Ant?
All the time.
Because bigs always.
Yeah.
Always, it's always the bigs, man.
Yes, of course.
But the problem is I had that thing, I don't know if it's green light, black light, it
was something that was...
I get to shoot the ball.
So, you know, someone's going to take this raft, all right?
You got to play defense.
Brandon, you ever have somebody try to come at you like Draymond came at Ant?
For sure. KG, my rookie year.
What happened?
I think we had just beat Boston, and this is when I was going through my hairstyles. I had a mohawk with the red, so they was calling me like the red rooster.
And we had beat them, and I just remember me and KG going back in the locker room,
like going towards the locker room, and we was just talking to each other the whole time.
Just like, little nigga, you know how you get down.
But, I mean, yeah, KG.
And then, of course, I was a little instigator,
so I would always start it.
I would always start talking or something.
I was always into it with somebody or trying to.
I was always trying to find something to get me clicking.
Because playing in Milwaukee back then, it was tough,
trying to get ready for a game.
Oh, I did piss KG off once.
When he won the All-Star weekend what 2002-2003?
The MVP? Yeah. Did he win MVP 2002-2003 All-Star weekend?
Let me pull it up. KG? Yeah. 2003. Yeah okay so yeah yeah. So I won the most improved, I won rookie sophomore, right?
So we played them after that, and I'm talking shit on the court.
And then he mentions, oh, so you think you the shit because you won a little sophomore MVP?
You think you the shit because you won a real MVP?
We're going back and forth.
And then I did a move on him, spun, and then made it lay up, and he missed it.
I said, you might need to take some medicine for that one.
Oh, shit.
That was the last time I drove.
I can tell you that.
He fucked me up after that.
But KG is fun, though.
Yeah, he's fun.
Because if he can get you, he's going to keep, and then he's going to always remember. He you he gonna keep and then he gonna always remember He just gonna be he just look at you
He just be trying to look at you and trying to like intimidate you does he go down the list of guys on the team
Trying to find a weak link for sure. Okay. Oh for sure. He's definitely trying to find a weak link
That's why he don't ask
No, we just we had no problem that didn't exist when we played them so we weren't worried about none of that
He's a great basketball player
Put a name on it, that's all I want to know so who a bitch-ass nigga, that's all I want to know Who? Who? Who?
One of them.
Yeah, that's all I want to know, who, who.
Why me?
What I do?
I just want to know who you're talking to.
And it don't include number six or number four at the time, so who?
Okay.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Was he doing the old talk to himself?
Yeah. I don't know who he was talking to. Okay, I was way was he doing the old talk to himself. Yeah
The bitch ass niggas came cars
Go you to take you to take for the reason
Oh, yeah, I was one of those I don't that's why I used to say oh he needed yeah I don't know if I could eat his medicine. He talked to himself
Okay, you got caught in one of those.
Oh, my Lord.
Who you talking to?
He's talking to himself.
Hey, Mark.
Speaking of KG, Wolves haven't made it past the first round since 2004
when they lost to the Lakers in the conference finals during KG's MVP season.
Wait, wait, what?
The Timberwolves haven't made it past the first round since 2004
when KG was MVP.
All right. Let's look at this team this year. it past the first round since 2004 when KG was MVP.
Let's look at this team this year.
When people think I said MVP, I was talking All-Star MVP.
In 2003, All-Star became MVP.
But 2004 was the last time the Wolves
made it past the first round.
Will the Wolves win a playoff series
this season?
I mean, they have the talent.
So, you know, if they get the right matchup,
they can get into like the fourth seed, play a fifth seed.
And, you know, they got two guys that can put up some real good numbers.
You know, it's all about, you know, who you match up with.
That's really who it is.
It ain't really got to do with...
It's that offset talent, right? You know, you don't want to be playing, you know,
Denver first round. For sure. And I mean if you can get one of them bottom
feeding teams that you know you can beat on and you got the star power against,
yeah, they could. And staying healthy. And staying healthy
towards the end. I don't know, man. We'll see.
I mean, I like their talent, though.
They got a squad, man. I think. Yeah, they do.
They do. They got
a favorable matchup, man, that where
Rudy can play.
Because you need him in the series.
Because he does affect games, but
you got to have bigs on the other side.
They can't have a first-round matchup with the Clippers.
Facts.
Like, just not going to work.
Or a demo where they can play small and he's ineffective now.
Because you can only play one of them.
So it's like, to give, like, who do you...
Like, yeah, matchups are important.
But, no, they got the talent.
So I feel like Adam Silver's working their phones right now,
obviously very, very early in the season,
but Tim Rules are currently the three seed in the West.
Okay.
The current six seed in the West,
they're going to stay Warriors.
Do you think they could get the Warriors
in a seven-game series, Gil?
Okay.
What do we just say?
Seven games into the season? How many games is into the season right now? You talking you want that? What did we just say? We're seven games into the season.
How many games is into the season right now?
You talking playoffs.
Yeah, we are.
Playoffs.
Playoffs.
We're about ten games in.
We are a show for the future.
Oh, shit.
Ten games.
That's why I'm worried about the playoffs.
But to the point we were just talking, to the point I just made, that's a bad matchup.
That's a bad matchup for them.
It's a bad matchup.
Yeah.
So I'm going to give you some teams.
Tell me if you think the Timberwolves could beat them in a
first round series. Nope. Okay. Mavs.
Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Rockets even though it probably won't last but we'll talk. Thunder.
Ooh. No. I think so. I think so. I don't think so.
They got more veterans. They got more veterans. Seven games? Yeah, I don't think so.
Yeah, I think so. It's young and young. got more veterans. Seven games? I don't think so.
Yeah, I think so.
It's young and young.
You know they ain't going to get the calls, not the other ones.
Shea going to get the calls.
Not in the playoffs.
That's not enough, though.
Not in the playoffs.
What?
That's not enough just for him.
Him?
Shea?
He need the whole team to get the calls.
In the playoff series?
Him?
How many free throws do you think he'll average in the playoff series of the game?
Shea?
Yes. I mean, it's going to be Rudy down there. He'll get about 10 or 12.
Each night out.
But they got two names.
They got two.
It's two versus one.
Damn, three versus one.
Yeah.
Kings.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
I think so.
Yeah.
Lakers.
Lakers.
Hell no.
Hell yeah.
Fuck.
Use the ID right now.
Huh?
Huh?
Y'all lose. Anthony Davis. Fuck, UCAD right now. Huh? Huh? Y'all look.
Anthony Davis.
Yeah.
Anthony.
What's he doing?
Anthony Davis.
Early in the season.
Early in the season.
Oh, that's early in the season.
Bambi legs.
Bambi legs.
I've got an extra pair of bones.
We good.
All right, let's.
Sons.
And these are all teams that we're hoping and anticipating are healthy.
Bad matchup.
Bad matchup.
We got three prolific scores.
He can't guard neither.
Just bad matchup.
They don't have to play a big.
Pelicans?
Yes.
Yeah, they can be a big.
They can put KD at the five and good luck.
Last but not least, Clippers.
Bad matchup.
Bad matchup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bad matchup. Yeah. Bad matchup.
Yeah.
Okay, when you talk about playoffs, right, when I talk about playoffs, when I think playoffs, it's really like how much output offensively and defensively someone got to put in, right?
So if he's the main guy that can score. Yeah Do I want him guarding James?
My mouth or my fucking Paul Joe gotta go out one of them or the yeah, yeah
So it took the words right out my mouth now. You gotta go out one of them on the end
So you said by that time they should have figured it out the Clippers because right now they ain't figured it
Yeah, yeah, but yeah
Cuz you know what I think about if you got we got to guard each other it comes to the point where
We're really burning each other out so quad Leonard at the four
Y'all rolling with it
Nepal George at the four either one. I'm at the floor the one of them at the boy
Well, I guess before they because they only can play with Rudy or cat and again at that point
Yeah, you can only play Rudy or cat nigga play Rudy or catch you can't play both
And then we'll try play cat now because cat gonna guard who?
Paul George or we don't
And then Kawhi gonna guard him?
Yeah.
Okay, and then Kawhi gonna...
Kawhi can guard, yeah.
And we already heard Jimmy Butler.
Jimmy Butler said, it's light work right here.
It's light work right here.
You remember what he said?
Yeah, I'm rolling with the Clippers over there.
So let's talk about the Clippers.
In this hypothetical playoff matchup.
Yeah, this hypothetical.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about the Clippers.
But before we do, we bring you back two-time NBA champ, box fade extraordinaire.
Had to chop it down.
Norris Cole is back with us.
What's up, baby?
For the rest of the show.
What's up, D?
What's up, baby?
Coming straight from a workout.
And damn, I'm glad I almost wore all white Nike sweatsuit.
It's getting to the point where y'all gotta start coordinating
And we got the mojo we got them. They got to put juice in the juicer
That was a lightweight smoke
Be fucking foggy
Come on
Lord we appreciate you coming back up.
Had so much fun with you last week.
Yes, sir.
Fans loved the show, loved your perspective.
We know you're still trying to get back in the league,
so we don't expect you to say too much,
and it's my job as a host to keep you from crossing that line.
But if you want to get close to it,
we're going to let you go.
So let's talk about these Clippers.
That's the gun line, boss.
Let's talk about the gun line. Clippers went gun line, boss. Talk about the gun line.
Clippers went 0-4 in their recent road trip.
Didn't get much better in Harden's first home game in L.A.
The jobless Grizzlies handed the Clips their fifth straight loss
in embarrassing fashion.
Clippers are now 0-4 in the James Harden era.
Gil, that great-looking offense on paper ain't translated to the court.
Let's take a look at these numbers right here.
So Clippers are minus 67
with Harden on the floor
through four games. And plus 24
with him on the bench.
Clippers fans getting a little antsy right now.
Some aren't happy with the move. Feel like the
Harden trade messed up the Clips chemistry.
Canyon, you weren't a fan
of the trade before it happened.
Very outspoken against it.
Did trading for Harden make the Clippers better?
I just didn't see how I could.
Just basketball, damn my personal feelings.
I'm looking at the basketball.
It's just, I just didn't see how it could work.
You got four dominant offensive personalities.
Mm-hmm.
Two good defenders, a little older,
but still can hold their own defensively.
One historically awful defender.
One guy that put forth effort.
Come on, man.
I ain't going to sugarcoat the shit.
Let's call it what it is, man.
We all watch basketball, though.
We're not going to act like James is...
Come on, man.
Great score.
James' offense is his defense.
Let's call it what it is.
He put pressure on you offensively
so you ain't got the energy to do...
It's what it is, man. But I just didn't see how. It is he put pressure on you offensively. So you ain't got the energy to do
What it is, but I just didn't see how and I
Don't make up those numbers. I don't work for plus-minus. I don't work for the analytical part of the basketball. That's not my
But those tell me what what it is
It's a small sample size, of course
But if it's supposed to be these four great talents with this hot such high basketball IQ
and What was the Memphis Grizzlies records before they played the Clippers one in six? I think one in eight. I think without who?
John Demetrius. Okay.
Twelve!
Okay.
Twelve!
So therefore.
One in eight crazy.
Therefore.
At home.
Not at home.
With the new banners up.
Yeah, so that's, I don't know if you should sound the alarm yet, but you need to get them up.
Listen, you need to pull the goddamn thing.
Got the lever on it, the red button.
Got the plastic lever on it.
You need to pull the lever up and put your finger on it.
Any minute now.
Any minute now, goddamn it.
You need to sound it.
That's my opinion.
Norris, what do you think about the Harden-Clippers era so far?
I mean, obviously it hasn't worked.
I thought it potentially could work, you know,
because any time you make a dramatic trade with such high-level players,
it's going to take time with chemistry.
But I'm feeling like K-Mart now.
It's like they're all great on offense, but it's only one ball.
I don't know their identity.
You know, every good team has an identity,
whether it's, you know's how Denver's identity is
the 1-5 pick and roll with
Joker and they play cutting.
The Warriors got Steph and how they play
movement. Lakers
play through Brian A.D.
I don't know their identity yet.
I don't know
if it can work. The West is not getting any weaker.
These losses, these early
losses, it's going to be hard to overcome if they don't get
together, I mean quick, quick. And maybe James, you know, maybe they need to just
play through him. Try, they got to try everything at this point, you know,
because clearly when he's on the court there is no chemistry. That's that plus
minus, like I'm like you, I don't really go by that, but it's clear that it's not
working. I don't mean to cut you off. There's two clips.
I don't know if they can find it.
There's one on the wing.
He had to pass it to him.
He had a three.
The one he threw out of bounds.
That one he should have shot.
He swung it to him.
He should have shot it.
No, no, no. Somebody was talking shit on the sideline.
He had to hit him.
Great pass.
He threw the ball to Iron Eagle, who does commentate.
Threw it to him. That clip clip and should have shot a three.
Coming right to me.
Right?
Other end of the court, another game.
Same, wide open three in the corner.
Don't take it.
Pump fake.
Trying to fit in, though.
No, shoot.
So it's that.
Those two clips right there, he's not a catch and shoot guy.
But he can, though.
He don't have to be.
If he ain't touching in three or four possessions,
you throwing the ball
to James,
tell him to shoot it.
He got to boom, boom, boom it, man.
That's just...
He can't adjust.
He got to massage it.
He's proven that.
I'm saying, can he?
Yes.
Yeah.
Right now,
that ain't what it is right now.
So you throwing him
a catch-and-shoot situation,
he's not comfortable in that role.
And how long is it going to take for James to get comfortable in a catch-and-shoot's not comfortable in that role. And how
long is it going to take for James to get comfortable in a catch and shoot situation?
Because you got two ISO guys, and Paul and Kawhi that need the ball in order to be effective.
The legendary guys do it though. When they team up with other great players, they find
a way to match. Like D-Wade adjusted, Kevin Durant's staff somehow found a way to get
it done.
At what year?
I mean, they was still 8-9 in the league still.
They was still.
Like, catch and shoot, that's his thing.
He can shoot.
That's the thing.
It's not like he's asking to do something he can't do.
He just got to.
I don't know how he work out.
I've seen his videos.
Catch and shoot is 99% of the things he do.
He don't sit in.
And his warm-ups, he ain't doing that. And his workouts, he ain't doing that and his workouts he ain't doing that he's catches you because guess what I ain't doing
Ain't no asses in the seats ain't no popcorn poppin bro man Clippers suck man
No, we're not gonna play We're not gonna blame
Before he
Know it ain't like a soul like this is a record be hold on
No, we're not gonna but they got their ass who about a Nuggets they win was against trailblazers
They lost to the Jazz
trash They beat the Spurs. Mm-hmm. They beat the magic
Uh-huh
They got their ass whoop by us Lakers. Uh-huh
And then nicks beat him next bit like Dave That wasn't good before like they were losing and playing against horrible teams before he got there
So why they make the trade though, huh? Why'd they make because they was losing they was like
Oh, we only really beaten on these bad teams and like they that's I'm Sandy you need your role player role players take time
They should have never you don't do the main look the trade is the trade right but to me
I just feel like they should have never got rid of Reggie Jackson.
Who?
Reggie Jackson.
Ten years ago?
Reggie Jackson played for the Clippers.
Four years?
Two years ago.
Yeah, two years ago.
But I feel like he was still a better point guard to play with PG and play with Kawhi Leonard because he knows them.
So, like, I just feel like Kawhi Leonard and PG, James Harden isn't someone that
that's who they would go to work with.
You know what I'm saying?
At this point in their career.
But James is a...
They haven't met the actual two.
That's what I'm saying.
The problem is he's trying to be a point guard still.
You can't be...
You can't...
You have to be...
So is that on him now?
...his shooting guard.
Is it on him?
It's not on him.
He has to try to fit in.
So it's like the trade is the trade.
Yeah, that's on him.
Don't think.
Like, you, like, Steph and CP3 right now.
When CP3 and Steph is together, Steph can't try to be the point guard, too.
And he's cool with it.
Yeah, you be the point.
I'm going to run off this motherfucker.
There we go.
You looking for me.
Because he's had to share it before. Who? looking for me that he's had to share before who Steph
Yeah, but that's him. He's had to share with Katie before so not point guard position, but the ball
Yeah, fuck no damn. I'm talking about damn the position. We're talking about the ball not the ball the ball
But the poker makes the decision correct
What I'm saying is if if if Russ is looking for us and I'm getting the ball
I know my 10 12 I can still get my 10, 12, 15 shots.
Yes.
If I do it a certain way.
Absolutely.
Versus you give it to me, now I'm going to get into my mode.
No, I'm going to come off the screen, you're going to give it to me.
If I'm open, I'm going to shoot it.
If not, I'm going to try to drive.
If not, I'm going to drive and kick.
Right?
It's an easier method if he decides to be a shooting guard.
Fuck that point. Fuck your assists.
Like, you average 10 assists.
You can't do it now when Russ is trying to do it, too,
because Russ can't be the shooting guard.
And Russ don't play the whole game, so when he goes out the game,
do you try to limit him at the court?
Y'all keep putting these positions on the shit if you want to.
That's wild, B.
Like, you keep putting the positions on the shit if you want to.
It's only one fucking
basketball.
It don't give a... What position you put out there, you can put point, shooting, small,
it's only one fucking ball.
And if that motherfucker ain't moving, who?
But that's what I'm saying, if it's not moving...
Because you play this game, you watch this game. You throw it to each one of them guys besides Russ.
Russ might get that motherfucking straight down here.
Besides him, Kawhi going to get it.
He going to give you his, right?
PG get it.
Bag work.
James get it.
That's what I'm saying.
So therefore, that's who they, but can they change?
Yes.
It's still what they have been is what they have shown these furs for.
And how long is that going to take right now?
What can they change?
Because they ain't get one thing, I'm going to tell you.
Everybody they're getting right now, they're trying to beat them.
Got all them names over there.
Shit, we finna go out.
We know we're on TV tonight. We know we'rena go out. We know we on TV tonight.
We know we getting this shot.
We playing them.
We gonna bring it.
They're lots of the Grizzlies at home.
The Jollas Grizzlies at home.
But they still an NBA.
But I'm saying.
They ain't beat nobody anyway.
But they beat the other bad teams is what I'm saying.
Kind of.
I mean, it's the only thing.
Before the trade, to your point, before before the trade they beat the other bad teams
They're too good. Right? That's all I'm saying. It's it's like having Jason kid and Andre mill on the court at the same time
They both can't do the same thing
It is a bit that they're both unselfish, but you both can't be unselfish
But you make it a high some Pettico's dough know it
We talked about real fucking situation. This is the real one now you so but you're making up
Jason kid and Andre Miller they never fucking ever played together
I know but it's the same but we talked about real shit not ain't the same
Okay, real shit real but real situation the situation is he can't be a shooting
So damn your position damn the position. There's only one basketball. I fuck that basketball
You put that you give it to my shoot
That's better than me getting it ten seconds here to give it back ten seconds
My point is I give it to me and I chuck it my point exactly so damn the position that you trying to put on
It but it is my point exactly. No, it's not you can't have two people massaging the ball my point exactly Gilbert that's what I'm bringing Jason kid and Andre
Miller we talking about real situation that's what I'm saying what I'm saying
but you're breaking Russell is a point guard right James Harden is a point
guard last year he have his tennis is his mind is saying let me do it this way
cuz I average tennis is I'm saying, fuck 10 assists.
Just shoot the open shots.
I don't need you trying to do what he's doing.
We already have a guy there.
I have a table.
Don't bring your table here.
He's not trying to do it.
Bring some food.
He's not trying to do what that guy is doing.
No, he's doing what he do.
I don't need him to do what he do.
I understand what you're saying, but he's not trying to do what he do.
He do what he do.
So they both do the same thing. We're saying the same but
How can they right now?
When they never had to to the point I was making before you brought up like stuff Steph had to do it
He he shared the ball before. Mm-hmm
Whether he was a point guard a shooting guard at center, whatever the fuck position he was he had to shut a ball before
What a Kevin Durant. So therefore,
it's easier now for him to play with CP, again, because he understands, I've done this before,
I've been off the ball at times when... So he don't need that thing in order to be him.
He can, and I'm pretty sure CP understand Steph got that thing going. I'm gonna go stand my ass over on his wing and watch 30 do his thing I
Think Steph his skill set allows him to do it
Basketball player James is a but they remember early his career he played with them, but but
The problem is he became famous for what he's doing now and don't know how to revert back
That's a fact. He needs to be more simpler. What happened what you just say
You said they play on the same team together. Yeah
Back in 2011 2012
With that six man six man
So what happened?
Somebody had something to do.
And who?
Somebody wanted to what? Leave.
Somebody wanted to leave.
That's a fact. So talking a little bit about
Harden's fit with this squad. After initially saying
he wanted the ball to run through Westbrook,
Ty Lue changed his tune before the Grizzlies
game, saying the following
in regards to James.
He's doing too much to try to fit in.
We had a meeting yesterday, and we said he needs to be James Harden.
We have to allow him to be himself.
We're going to play through James.
Whew.
That's a bit much now.
Because you don't have.
So you got one.
I mean, you got to.
You made the trade.
You got to see if it was worth it. You got one. I mean you got so you made the trade you got to see it was worth one pick-and-roll guy
Hmm you got what is James?
Besides scoring his best attribute is doing what you want the hell out of pick and roll. Yes. No, does he yeah
But the pick and roll
Clint Capella to him be is this he's had a big or he can manipulate off the pick and roll and get on right to you
But if Paul George gonna sit there watch him thank you
So to my point exactly
Are they gonna sit there and be cool with that James? How I mean unless you gonna play I mean unless this
Listen, thank you James. You have a five man that five men are gonna guard right?
His man is never gonna to switch on you four guards.
You got him out there for a reason.
Use that motherfucker.
He should be just pass.
Oh, he do?
Nope.
Oh, he do?
Who's Zubat?
Yeah.
Oh, he do that?
Oh, he should be taking four.
That's what he do.
There should be no ISO basketball.
That's what he do.
There should be set a pick for each one of them.'t watch them said three four five six one roll in roll
He should be everything crazy so
Yo, I'm in catch up he should but when them guys get around the bat, they're not looking to pass it to him
They're looking to score. I'm the set they they're looking to score. But he said he should be averaging, but that's not the case. He's averaging double
figures because he's starting five. He's averaging 10, 11, whatever it is. But when them guys
come off the pick and roll, each one of them, Russ is the willing pass off of that. James
has become that over time because he played with Bigfella last year, so he had
somebody to... He's always had high
assist numbers because of how he plays the game.
Because he has the ball in his hand.
I don't know... He had high assist numbers in Brooklyn, too.
Yeah, because he has the ball in his hand
65% in each situation
he's been in. But now
they don't have the pick-and-roll situation
to manipulate the game.
So how are you going to play through James is what I...
So Brandon, question for you. How many games should
Ty Lue give the Clippers big for
starting together before shaking
things up? And we talk about sacrifice. That's
the word they keep using, sacrifice.
We talked about James early in his career,
the role he filled as a sixth man.
Some Clippers fans have alluded to
they'd rather see Westbrook start
hard and finish, but maybe hard and come off the bench with that six-man roll.
Like, in your opinion, do you think that's a move that Clippers should consider making?
Who's clashing right now?
Say that again.
Who's going to start and who's going to finish?
So, Westbrook starting, Harden finishing.
At least that was the last Grizzlies game.
I saw that.
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that.
I saw that.
How many games do you get before you start shaking things up?
I mean.
They 0 for 4 right now.
0 for 5.
4 with Harden.
5, period.
With the Lakers.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean.
Just put it on out there.
I mean, you can't lose 10 in a row.
Got to do something.
You're going to have to figure out something very fast.
Especially before the new year, you know, before the new year starts.
They lose 10.
Darvin Hamm going to be looking over his shoulder at Ty Lue.
Man.
Staying in the facility.
I mean, you're going to have to figure out something this month of December.
Definitely before the new year.
Will they ask James to come off the bench, though, or will they ask Russ?
That's what it's tough to do.
I don't think they can ask James to do that.
Why not?
I mean, they asked CP3 to come off the bench.
He's not them, though.
I don't know if mentally he can handle it.
Russ can probably handle it better than James can handle it.
Hey, look up the Clippers roster.
It's just not. can handle it. Hey, look up the Clippers roster. Let me know
what this
player's number, I think his name,
Ego? Oh, yes, sir.
Let me know what number he wear.
Can't have no Ego.
Can't have no Ego.
Let me know what number he wear.
Because you ask either one of them to come off the bench,
guess who's going to wear that ugly-ass head?
That Ego.
But I thought sacrifice.
I thought it was about sacrifice and we don't care what we got to do to win a championship.
So it ain't.
Joe's really looking it up, too.
Joe's like, huh?
I'll just have to bring it back as you ask me another roster-related question.
Now, would this be a problem if James just caught and shot the ball?
No.
Say it again now.
If James just caught and shot the ball, like when the corner goes to the corner three and he shot the ball,
he came off pin downs and shot the ball, or he did some flares and shot the ball,
we wouldn't be talking about none of this.
But the fact that he wants to still play the point guard is the problem.
So it's either, hey, Russ, if he wants to be the point guard,
you just got to be the shooting guard and when you get it, just do it
the Dwayne Wade style. Zipper up, zipper
down, always catch it on the go
so you can attack. One of you guys
have to be the shooting guard for it to work.
You both can't be trying to
play make.
Someone has to try to be
the shooting guard. I'm sorry. One of you guys going to try to be the shooting guard. I'm
sorry. One of you guys is going to have
to be a faster... It should be James,
right? At this time, I'm right here.
It should be James because he's the one
that can shoot.
Yeah.
I don't want
my
Russell
sitting there wide open and throwing
to the corner,
that's not his thing, right?
And so if you're going to put him in that situation where, hey, Russ, we don't need you to average 10 assists,
we need you to average out 15 points.
So when you get it, just attack, right?
Just hit it with the D, do the D-Wade right now,
you know, zipper up, zipper down.
We're going to try to catch you on the cross screen
and play that style.
It works, but the point that I throw it to you and then you and that motherfucker like, ah, ah, ah,
give it to you and you...
Yeah.
Three, two...
Both of you need to use the footer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It just makes it...
They're going to have to rely more on Ty Lue.
This is when you need a system.
I was just about to say that.
They got to rely on Ty Lue.
They're going to have to have a system.
Harden said, I am the assistant.
Right?
This is the Princeton.
This is the Princeton.
That's the system.
There's two people over there that got rings.
They're going to take the shots.
They're going to take the shots.
There's three people over there that got championships.
You got the assistant, DC.
You got Ty Lue.
You got Kawhi Leonard.
They got to rely on that.
And anybody who don't got one of them is going to have to sit back and be quiet.
Princeton, they should put that Princeton in
for a couple plays of some chins,
some boards out.
Do what he do, screen.
Because what it is, it's passing, cutting.
You're gonna get a couple back doors.
You ain't gotta dribble it.
You ain't gotta dribble it.
And that shit, you ain't gotta dribble it.
You gotta go for it.
We were both in that offense.
So me and Larry, when you think about it,
my guards, me, Larry, right?
So between the two of us, we're putting up 40 points, 10 assists, 10 rebounds.
So we're not one or the two.
We're both guards.
Same thing with the four.
So your position is doing the same thing.
So let's say James is on this side of the court and we're doing chins 15.
I'm on his side.
So he's on his side.
I'm going to pass it.
Cut through his first pass.
Look at me.
Cut through.
If not, boom.
Right into the pick and roll.
He can go.
He roll.
Yeah, roll.
Replace.
Two-man game.
It becomes an easier flow.
Then you got the forwards on the wing.
Yep.
They want to get a touch.
Okay, I'm going to run forwards out reverse.
Forwards out reverse.
Boom.
I'm going to turn that thing back around.
I'm going to throw it to the wing. I'm going to cut off Zubac. I'm going to press that thing. I'm going to run forwards, out, reverse. Forwards, out, reverse. Boom. Turn that thing back around. I'm going to throw it to the wing.
I'm going to cut off Zubac. I'm going to press that thing.
Now Kawhi and PJ can catch it
on the wing and do their thing.
That's not even NBA basketball.
You know, now it's all about quick actions.
It's so spread out now.
They don't even really call sets.
They call them actions now.
Could you imagine you being the way this shit's so spread out right now?
That's what I'm saying.
I pass the motherfucker, sit back, hit that back cut you pick up rope man
Bruh, like that's what I said when people talk about yo you did this I was in the office and I just manipulated that shit
Mm-hmm, right you couldn't guard us because if you you denied we're back doing you sagged we came and got the ball, right?
It was you like, you know, I'll pass it soon as you sag, we came and got the ball. Right? It was...
Like, you know, I'll pass it.
As soon as you do this, there's a back pick coming.
I ain't got no touch.
You got fundamentals, though.
I ain't got no touch.
Guess what?
You throw it to the wing, I'm going to dribble corner.
Yep.
Boom, boom, boom.
I'm going to reverse out.
Backdoor.
That, I'm going to throw it out.
I'm going to get a flare from the big, and you can guarantee I'm shooting that bitch 100% of the time.
That's a lot of IQ, this game.
That's a lot of IQ.
This NBA is not the same as that.
You're saying the IQ has significantly diminished?
I'm saying because of the age level and the way the style of play is, these kids are coming in younger and younger.
They never had to learn basic sets.
We grew up running sets, and then our talent would us some time to deviate like you could deviate
But you always knew only deviate when I need to let the system work for you
and then when I need to be spectacular now, it's like I'm being spectacular straight from the jump and
They never had to move the ball side to side two or three times to get a shot now. It's the first available shot
Let's get it up. Yeah, I think it was. Shoot. They weren't playing more fast than we were playing.
No, no, that's what I'm saying.
They weren't playing
more fast than we were playing.
I know, but...
But we were running.
But then we had to.
Y'all knew how to...
But that's the thing.
Y'all knew how to play basketball.
If y'all don't have
the first initial score,
then you get put in the play.
Dude.
When John Wall...
Think about it.
When John Wall came... One man fast break. Right? John Wall... We have John Wall think about it when John Wall came one man fast break
right
John Wall
we have John Wall
at the point
I'm at the shooting guard
Kirk Heinrich
is our three
you got three point guards
on the floor
but because me and Kirk
understood how to play
it was easy for us
not to clash with him
because we all
trying to start
so it was like
wait hey
I can beat out our three man but what's a three man play Yeah, it was easy for us not to clash with him because we all trying to start so it's like wait. Hey, I
Can beat out our three man
What's the three man play? was the three-man plays and I mean like Kirk is at the two and like we had to adjust to him because we realized
When he did the pick and roll, right?
We're used to pick and roll and he flares up
Right and he's hitting that John Wall was used to going off the pick and roll and he flares up. Right? And he's hitting that. John Wall was used to going off the pick and roll
and fighting that dead corner dude.
So me and Kirk
had to say, hey, we have to stay at
the, we have to stay in the dead corner
because he doesn't understand to pull up.
So we have to go off of his natural ability.
He's going to come and he's going to fire right
blindly straight to that corner because
he's looking at something. And he had to
understand that we're taught to move up. So we sitting
We want that roll up
Roll up to get away from this guard, but we understand that he sees the corner
So that's all adjusting in real time. Well, and we they not adjusting
They're gonna be they might be they down for I'm saying how do you not understand what the ability of your teammates is?
That's the that's the fuck that other team. I need to know what King and okay when Kenya goes when he does this pick and roll
He likes to roll when he does it on this way. He likes to pop so I should be able to know
Okay, when King comes here, let me stay flat because he's gonna pop instead of trying to roll
So we supposed to be that's working on the string you can and the thing is about the shit with me and Gil talking about
Always you can manipulate shots if you won't
Like you can you keep like it's you can manipulate get yourself your shot whatever shots you want to get each possession
Easy, whatever the ball go. Yeah spacing. It's like you got to respect the space. I like the triangle, right?
It's wherever the ball go dictation movement movement. Mm-hmm. Yeah once again
talking about a high intelligence offense
Nobody cuts it. I guess nobody do that
I think about like if you have the ball on the other side and I know you don't have a
Play right like you don't got the quick. I'm giving you two to three seconds to make a move if not I'm flashing
Yeah, right soon as I flash he knows I flash, he knows the back door.
Yah!
Boom.
Right behind.
Roop!
Boom.
He comes.
Ah!
Like, that's not play calling.
That's just fucking reading your man.
Like, when Klay hit that game winner, that wasn't on play.
That was a read.
Yeah, boom.
He see Curry come through.
He missed it.
He see his man help.
He ran right on him
Yeah Let's talk about Tyler a little bit
It seems like Clippers ownership front office signed off on this trade bringing Harden in his base is total you figure it out
So did the team put coach Lou in a tough spot?
Making this move after you done gone through a whole training camp. You think you got your roster?
You think you know what you're going into season with and now boom we got james here now
ty go make it work i don't like when i judge like um coaches it's off of you know subs
rotations um preparation right um how much is he dedicating to the...
ATO's?
Yeah, everything.
So, you know, the record really don't matter
because if he's preparing, if the chef is preparing
the meal for the meal to be good and it just, it ain't,
his job ain't in jeopardy, right?
You can be a great, you can have a have a great talented ass team and you're a horrible
coach like when frank vogel won the championship i don't know not saying he was a bad coach i'm
about to say no no i'm not saying he was a bad coach i'm just saying all right they won the
championship he dropped two games to the miami heat your lineup allowed them to win two games. You got Caruso. You got three guys who
are worse than those three guys, and those three guys is worse, right? They're not good, but because
of the offset, you got three guys who can't shoot the ball in the game at the same time. Now they're
playing two on five, right? You drop two games in them, that's a C you as a coach you're C you're C plus
at best damn right that should have been four games get the fuck on out of here
let's go ahead beat the shit out of them but it should have been 4-0 the fact
that you lost two to this team that's a C right like you you was guaranteed a
championship this lineup right just like Denver was it's fucking guaranteed right so depending on how you playing his game depending on what your your
Your resume for your grade, and I gave him see so that's he's still his preparation is great for me, so I'm
He still gets a passing grade. I rock with I rock with you Lou. I rock with you because T Lou one thing
He's good at he don't had no ego. He will adjust he won't you know some coaches won't adjust they just say hey do it better do it faster do it like yeah yeah
but he will adjust but they have to listen to him though because like I said in the day he's the one
that got the chip he won a chip before and his assistant coach over there DC Dan Craig they
didn't want to chip before so and Kawhi didn't want to chip so if he does all of a sudden like you know
What we're gonna do it this way
They gonna have to say okay if they serious about winning now
They serious about winning and they want they shots like Kmart said then they gonna lose they don't keep losing
But I rock with I rock with T Lu because he's proven you don't got to guess if he knows how to win
He has done it before
Yeah, I mean T Lu's proven. There's just that the isn't. So taking the job for the Clippers is always a risk.
It's a lot of pressure right now, man.
That's the biggest thing.
A lot of pressure.
There's a lot of pressure on T. Louis right now, man.
Pressure meaning he can get fired or pressure just for winning?
He doesn't have a contract after this year, if I'm not mistaken.
They didn't extend him last summer.
The Clippers.
Therefore, there's a lot of pressure on that man to succeed right now.
And now you didn't put and you didn't gave him his hand full of hearts. Last summer, so. The Clippers. So, therefore, there's a lot of pressure on that man to succeed right now.
And now you didn't put, and you didn't gave him his hand full of hearts.
You playing spades.
Now he got.
He got no spades. He got no spades.
He's like, I got to make two books.
If he gets that.
So, next year.
But it's one of those, damn if you do, damn if you don't.
Like, right?
He might be like one of these relaxed coaches. He gets it in, get it out. Now when you start losing, right, and you're still trying to damn if you do, damn if you don't, right? He might be like one of these relaxed coaches.
He gets it in, get it out.
Now when you start losing, right, and you're still trying to do what you do,
and they're like, well, we ain't practicing enough to be missing four or five days in practice.
And now you got to practice, overpractice, and do some shit that you're used to not doing.
Well, he kicked ass this year in training camp because they made the statement
that they didn't do enough
last year and they felt
they weren't prepared
for the season.
Who said that?
The players?
Oh, Paul George said it
and therefore,
T. Lou went back to
some old school shit
on their ass.
Like, it wasn't as bad
as it could have been,
but he took it back.
You know where I would like
to see T. Lou if it worked out?
So yeah, he worked with him.
With Clippers?
Milwaukee.
Mmm. If the Milwaukee situation don't work out where it's at now,
I would like to see T. Lou in Milwaukee.
Are we going to talk about that in a little bit?
It's just so weird.
Like something like that, right?
Like we didn't do enough in training camp.
I would be irritated as a player.
Like what the fuck you do in the summer then?
Like what'd you do in the summer?
Speak on it. Like what the fuck is training in the summer then? Like, what'd you do in the summer? Like, what the fuck
is training camp? Like, training camp is
getting our, like, I had to
Eddie used to
kill us in training camp when we first
got there. And I had to talk to him. Hell, hold on,
man. Like,
I'm in shape.
Like, I'm in shape. I don't know about him. What the fuck
am I being penalized for him for?
Right? Like, yeah, I'm coming in here, motherfucker, 5% body fat.
You know, like, we done did this and did that.
Like, reward the people who do work hard.
Right?
So, you know, one year I was like, yo, if we all come in shape and our body fastens down,
whatever you write on that board, whatever, and we come in shape, can we just worry more about the offense?
Because the offense is hard as fuck.
We ain't got J. Kidney over here, right?
This is what I got, coach.
So if we come in here in shape,
instead of spending an hour doing cardio,
can we spend that hour learning this play?
And then he was like, yes.
So everybody came in at the beginning of September,
and we did our cardio.
So the fact that you over here talking about
we didn't do enough in training camp,
that's professionalism in the summertime.
Who said that, though? Who you say said that?
It's all a joke.
No, I think PG said they training camp,
not this year, but the previous year,
he came out and said he wish it was harder,
wasn't hard enough, so some of those...
He was coming off of an injury, though, wasn't he?
Yeah, but...
Yeah, but they...
They can't kill you.
Like, yo, I'm...
I'm trying to save you. I'm trying to save you, you
just came off a bat.
That's exactly what he said too.
Hey, Pat Riley, can you come on down here?
No one will never say nothing like that to Pat.
No, I don't.
If you ever said something like that, everybody's quick.
Last question on this subject, Gil, last week I think you said that once the Clippers
built that chemistry they could rattle off 20 straight wins, have the most prolific offense on paper you'd ever seen.
So are people overreacting to the Clippers' early struggles right now, or are they trash?
I don't think so.
I think people are reacting exactly how they're giving it to us.
They're looking like some bullshit.
It's looking like some bullshit, and they're bringing in some bullshit.
Right? Looking like some bullshit and he reckon it's a bullshit, right? So
Yeah, but you know if they get that look it if they were they once they figure that shit out
They gonna be running up some scores
Can they finish top four in the West? No
No, no, no top four. Yeah top four in the West. Can they finish top four in the West?
All right, I mean before I just open my mouth
Let's just say Nuggets taking that top spot.
Yeah, that's fine.
So can they grab one of those other three?
Standings, NBC.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dallas and Minnie.
Oh, yeah, Dallas and Minnie falling.
Ain't nobody worried about that.
Us and them Lakers.
Luka, oh my.
Us and them Lakers.
Us and them Lakers.
I mean, Lakers and the Clippers.
Yeah, that's, you know.
What about the Suns, Gil, at full strength? Damn, forgot about them. Yeah mean Lakers in the Clippers. Yes, you know, what about the Suns guilt at full strength?
They forgot about them. Yeah
Phoenix
And I see no Minnesota I think they're oh
I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it right now. All right, I'm gonna say it right now
first round playoffs
Lakers first clips
it's gonna be some old-ass basketball oh man Lakers are six this might be one I'm not this might be one of them shit. This might be one of them shits were
If you got the Lakers sons or Clippers sitting at
Five six seven six seven eight you don't want to be you don't want to be motherfucking Dallas Milwaukee or Houston
Dallas Minnesota here sir because the top six gets him for sure, right? And then the top six gets him.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
7-8 is still...
But if 7-8 is Lakers or Phoenix Suns as the two or three seed, you don't want
them.
Why not?
Similar situation to last year.
Because the...
We forgot about the Pelicans possibly too, and Zion still.
I mean if you Denver and you got the eight...
If you Dallas Mavericks, you want the Phoenix Suns first round and everybody healthy at
The right time fuck no
Fuck no. Hey, listen you do not
It just depends on Not in the playoff series. Not in the playoff series. You don't want to see the motherfuckers all else in the playoffs. That's a bad example, though, because Luka and Kyrie don't see nothing but blood.
Not in the current iteration, but Luka...
Remember, if this team is doing bad right now, right, they're losing now.
We're talking about, like, everybody catching their stride.
You don't...
That's a scary team.
That Phoenix team going, you got to score at least 120 just to be a game.
I said, Clippers team, like, you don't want to catch that at the wrong...
You don't want to catch them at the wrong time.
And your ass been working hard all year to get the 2-3 seed.
You're going to be sitting there like, uh, no, no, no, like Grizzlies was last year in motherfucking Sacramento.
Y'all did all that work.
Played one of them juggernauts in the first round.
Like, yeah, damn.
Shit. Right. Yo, I still have a hard time with this 7-8 seed not guaranteed, man.
I don't like it either.
I have a hard time with this still, man.
I don't like it.
Y'all just said it, and it's like, what, the top six guaranteed?
That shit sounds crazy to me.
Because 7-8, you could still get knocked out, right?
That's crazy.
Why are we rewarding losing though?
I don't get that.
You could be mediocre all fucking season and have a chance.
You could be the 10th seed and have a chance to make a fucking comeback.
Have a chance, yup, to make it.
It just, it makes no sense for no party.
No party.
So it's just the business of the NBA then?
If I'm the 10th seed all year.
That's how it is.
Think, because if you the 10th seed all year, right, you the 10th seed all year, right? You're the 10th seed all year. Like, your record is 10th seed.
And then you somehow catch a stride at the end of the season and then win a playoff spot.
Your record, your record, you get that draft.
Yeah.
I don't want that draft if I know my team been sorry all year now instead of having like a nice little lottery pick
I'm out of the lottery because I want to these motherfuckers want to catch they want to catch feelings now
Oh, no, no, give me my 10th
see pick
Number 12 11 I can get something with that versus
1718 the only way you should if 8 and 9 have the exact same record.
Yeah.
If 8 and 9 got the exact same record, yeah, let them fucking play it out again.
Or two, whatever it is, if the home team lose, whatever, if they got a home-and-home,
and whoever got the better home record, or whatever you want to figure out.
But if 8 and 9 got the same goddamn record, that's the only way you're dead.
Nine should even be in the conversation
Because you know 10 from 7 10 from 7 that could be 12 games
There's some chant like if you go back because when they put it up
I had to go back in history and to see how far it is fucking 12 15 games between these two people
Yes, Tim might be like minus 10 in the loop in the lost call like yeah 10 more losses than
100 like you 10 games under five still got a chance to still got a chance to make the play all right you sit here and
Everybody's supposed to be happy
Yeah
I've been selling all year I've been saying now we sit here playing 10
Come on. Yeah to just try to get in to try to get in just to try to get it
He was when he was a Timson used to be planning your vacations
Right the term is bullshit though, but all you you you you already allowed 64 teams and as is
Now you make it what you got what the bottom 16 teams got to play for a spot.
You got that three games.
It's like 68 fucking teams.
Like 64 ain't the fuck enough.
But the tournament, they always talk about that 12-5 upset.
It's like, well, it's not us.
You keep fucking it up.
You win gooder teams at the 12th seed than at the 5th seed.
So that's all just for that.
The reason people are getting seated, they're upset.
Motherfucker, we know what team looks better.
This team is 27-4 for a reason,
just because they're in a small conference.
No, they're a good basketball team.
They lost four games all year.
Speak on it.
Speak on that Cleveland State.
Speak, that's what I'm talking about.
Hold it down for us.
Hold it down for us, bro.
Hold it down for the small schools, man.
Talked about the Clippers looking like one of the worst teams in the league. Hold it down. us, bro. Hold it down for the small schools, man. Talked about the Clippers looking like
one of the worst teams in the league.
Hold it down. Shout out Cleveland State, baby.
Let's talk about the best
team in the NBA right now.
We don't want to talk about that when y'all play.
I think we was in Hawaii.
Yeah, that was nasty.
We don't want to talk about that. We want to talk about the years I was there.
Some successful years.
Some successful years.
Let's talk about the best team in the NBA right now.
James Harden, former team, the Sixers.
They said they're the best team in the NBA?
They're 8-1.
As it currently stands.
You are what you're supposed to say you are, Gil.
And their elite point guard,
Tyrese Maxey, who is continuing to cook
in his breakout season.
All-star. So Maxey dropped
career-high 50 points on the Pacers
to lead the Sixers to their eighth straight win
in the best record in the league.
The reigning MVP, Joel Embiid, put up 37-13
and seven assists as well.
Sixers are off to their best start since the 2001 season.
They started that year 10-0.
AI led them to the NBA Finals.
We all know what happened.
Maxie's 50-piece is the most by Sixers' guard since AI dropped 53 on the Hawks back in 2005.
Hey.
That's for the 50.
Now, you see how he's playing the game?
There's no time wasted.
Gets it, come out to pick and roll, makes a decision.
Right?
That's the that's the difference
Right, you know if he was with Russell we wouldn't even had his problem because he gonna score
But just like when he was with James he's playing
The shooting guard when he was at the two now he's playing a point guard, but he's playing his style. So makes it
It makes it this makes James look a little worse
Because he can score 50 with the same guy you were saying I need to play my style.
What style is he playing?
He's just playing a faster, efficient style.
So he's basically taking three shots to your one.
There's no difference.
You took 20 shots. You took 20 shots,
I took 20 shots,
but now,
the way Maxie's playing,
you get to take 20 shots,
you get to take 20 shots
because he's putting
so many possessions
inside of his game
versus us two taking 20
and you taking like 12
and then this person
taking eight,
like 20, 20, 20, 16.
Like, you just got to put
more possessions in the game
and I don't think
James understands that yet.
Maxie does. Playing fast. Let's talk about Tyrese Maxie a little bit. Last week, 16. Like you just got to put more possessions in the game and I don't think James understand that yet max he does
Let's talk about Tyrese maxi a little bit last week I think we all agreed that he should be an all-star maybe all NBA creeping in that level
But I want y'all to fill in this blank for me Tyrese maxi is a top blank PG in the league right now
five
When you say blank Are you just numbers, we put numbers or letters or...
Top is...
Is he a top L?
Is he a top...
He's a top black!
Black.
Fuck you wanna...
You already gotta be doing some other shit!
Give us some direction, bro!
He's a top what?
Top what?
Kentucky.
Hey, top Kentucky, where you going?
Kentucky.
Let me just list, before you get into this, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say
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Top Kentucky guard.
Let me just list, before you give me your answers, I'm going to list some of the other top point guards
in the league. You got Luca, Steph, SGA,
Tyrese Halliburton, LaMelo.
So you want us to put them as a number?
Yes, I would appreciate that.
I thought that was very self-explanatory.
Sometimes, yeah.
You got to add those on.
Intellectual
People over here. I mean if he ain't if he ain't the one he top three
Oh, you put him over Lucas over Lucas Steph. No, I'm just like where I'm gonna come on right now
I mean not in general. I'm saying like
At this very moment. I mean, I mean the eight, he averaged in what? Like almost 30-something?
Like the 8-1.
I'm giving four right now.
I can't put him over SGA's staff.
Because SGA's playing well, too.
Steph's playing well.
The 8-1.
I don't care about the draft.
I'm talking about as a player.
He's what?
28 a game.
28 in what?
I know he have... What's that deal doing?
I mean, come on, man.
What's Luka doing?
Hey, we're going to round up on Maxie and give him that 29.
29.
The 28.6. 29, 29, and we 8-1? You know, we're going to round up on Maxie and give him that 29. 29. 28.6.
29, 29, and we 8-1?
You know, we got...
He top three right now.
You already got a show done.
I just got him as top three point guard right now.
I'm putting four with Halliburton as the fifth one.
Okay, because, yeah.
Because what he doing is he lead two.
He hot.
You right, though.
He's 50, though.
That 50 is early.
I think we 10 games in.
That's a fact.
And he going to have more than one
That's what I'm saying. I say Gil look we're gonna be having 45 a lot
Yeah, but this is but the thing about Tyrese this is like his breakout year see we seen it from them
We know what they gonna do now. We ain't seen we've under see a whole different type of animal with time
You know, could he win most improved from going from averaging 20 to 29? Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
I mean, in scoring,
he's the fifth best
point guard right now.
In scoring wise?
Yeah.
But he's playing as a top three.
Steph averaging 30.
You got, yeah,
you got Steph averaging 30.
You got Lucas, Steph.
Yeah, yeah.
That's why I said he's top three.
You got Donovan Mitchell
averaging 29 a game.
And then Shea averaging
29 a game.
He's top three right now, bro.
He's top three.
They point guard, though.
Huh?
Donovan Mitchell, they point guard.
Donovan Mitchell, they point guard.
He's the shooting guard.
So, yeah, he's four.
Steph.
Top four.
Luca, Shea.
That's just points.
If you're going on overall.
If you're going on overall, because the totality, if you're going on totality of the whole situation,
like Brandon said, they're 8-1.
Right now?
If you put that into the equation
But you got to understand they got big fella after 31. Yeah, I'm not doing that
So I'm not throwing on record in it there for the fells, but big fella averaging 31 to be like the 31 you then I got
32 damn
But he averaging 29
Year we ain't seen it. We didn't even mention Dame too, that we gotta also include in that mix.
I can give you, I can argue for three, because I'm averaging 29.
Just for right now.
And he averaging 31, you take this motherfucker off the court, I might lead this motherfucker
real quick.
So I be thinking, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, top three.
Top three.
Right now, the way he's doing.
Well, you see how we can do that?
We can sit there and say no, then think about, all right, he's averaging this,
.6 less than a dude who don't got somebody averaging 30 with him.
Yeah, all right, we can give him three.
Yeah, I would say if Embiid wasn't on that roster.
If Embiid wasn't on that roster, he'd be averaging about 33, 34 easy.
He'll be what Shea did last year and didn't have no help.
But Embiid is on that roster, gotta ask this follow-up is Maxie and Embiid the
best duo in the league right now right now they're playing like they playing
the best but Damian Giannis is they gonna get it together when they do it's
gonna be over that's how they gonna compete. This is gonna be a nice little
Yeah, cuz they both
Lookin all smoke, but but that I mean what Jamal Murray's down right now
Okay, if this was a two-on-two
NBA Jam stuff and this is NBA Jam style I don't know if Murray and what's-her-name is together
because what makes them two is Joker finds number three, four, and five.
But they still good.
That shit, they running good.
I mean, it's still good.
That shit's still good.
You play five on five, Gil.
It's still good.
It's happening every time down.
It's still dynamic, though.
Every time down.
They can pick and roll.
They can pick a short roll.
They can, oh, man, pass, re-screen, get it back.
It's that Euro. It's that Euro, get it back. It's that Euro.
It's that Euro.
He don't like it.
It's that Euro.
How about this one, though?
If you put Maxie and Embiid versus Joker and Murray.
It's going to come down to the other three players.
Because we already know one-on-one.
It's going to come down to the other players.
No, no.
You take note.
There ain't no other players.
Just them two, two-on-two.
Who?
Yeah, Maxie and and I like the champs
No, I like Maxie and I think I'm gonna pick up like
Nobody stop me for real
Anybody
You know Jamal Murray Jamal, you know Jamal Murray's taller than once in be get the boss make
Well, you know, but remember it's make it um, what's the big at the boss make? Well, you know, but I remember it's making take is making so one hassle is basically pick and roll
Then they playing one-on-one and it's over. I mean, we'll say Luke. Yeah, you'll get James
Luke you'll get school see me that where's three matchups is well the Milwaukee the Dems
You got to put them to it. I mean you gotta put that to me walk. Yeah We need to get to make a big the two of them. They might be to be honest if this is just a two-on-two matchup
Then Milwaukee is probably the weakest one out of the two
Well the bigs because of the bigs by because of these bees can play one-on-one
John seven-footers. Yeah, I
Mean his advantage is he if he rolling, now you, yeah.
I would love to see that shit.
Two on two matchups in all-star weekend.
Ooh, I like that.
That would be nice.
Make it take it.
Five on five, though, is Jamal Murray.
That's Jamal Murray.
The main guys ain't going to want to play in that shit.
It'd be great, though.
Man, NBA need to do what they used to do.
Two million. Make your point. Put a million. Put two million on it. Ain't got no choice. It'd be great though. Man, NBA need to do what they used to do. 2 million?
Man, make your play.
Put a million, put 2 million on it.
Ain't got no choice.
That'd be great.
2 million on it?
A million?
2 million?
2 million for the winner.
2 million for the...
Oh, hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
2 million for the winner?
Yeah.
A million apiece?
Yeah, a million apiece?
Yeah.
All-star weekend?
Yeah, I think guys will sign up.
Take out that...
Those are the things that need to... Make them take it. Those are the things that need to replace somebody like fuck that steel Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna say the skills challenges. Oh you got people into what is the skill challenge?
I'm walking dribbling around the cones between this little ball like that
Who got thought of all I missed it and now I gotta hit the shot it in run down the court and done fuck that
One or a two-on-two matchup that shit is gravy. Yeah, what's the other shit? They got with the three players in you got the
Got the vet the goddess playing on the WNBA player
Now we got one old dude can't fit his uniform no more
One v1 no 2vv2, and let that talent speak.
Oh, shit.
King of the court, like you have king of the hill one-on-one.
That right there, let's say one-on-one, it's a million dollars, right?
Mm-hmm.
If you made NBA players pay to get in there, you will have a long list.
Because this dude that's on the bench, Cam Thomas,
if you pay $50,000, Cam Thomas putting this $50,000.
Absolutely.
Cam putting it.
For the one-on-one, Cam putting this $50,000.
Without him thinking about it.
Without Mark putting it.
One-on-one, the only thing that's going to be the problem is how many dribbles.
That's a three.
Jimmy Butler going to be in that moment.
Two dribble, three dribbles. Jimmy will be like three Jimmy Butler gonna be a memo to dribble three dribbles
Jimmy me like oh I got this three Joe
Only
Contest work NBA players will pay to be in it three dribble man
Yeah, fuck your max fuck the picking the wings. That's what I'm saying. This ain't something. Yeah, this ain't somewhere you pick
Like you pick players. No, no, no, no. Sign up.
Then you be like, yeah.
But you have to pick a spot, though.
You have to pick the wing, top wing.
You get to pick which one you want.
Get three spots to pick from.
Get three spots to pick from. If Uncle Drew sign up.
Yeah, Uncle Drew.
You already know.
If Uncle Drew sign up, hey, listen.
Now, that lets you know who's scared of smoke, too.
I was about to say that.
I was about to say who.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it ain't about money.
Because Ant-Man going in.
He want all smoke.
Jimmy Tatum going in.
All smoke.
You're going to have one-on-one play.
Then you're going to have people that just know they can get buckets.
Then we're going to go Kuzma playing.
Yes.
We're about to get some dogs.
We're about to get some dogs in there.
Now, do you have the bigs play with them, though?
Because Joel Embiid, nobody can stop him.
Same, but it's the same rules.
Three dribble.
Yeah, you got three dribbles, so you got to get there.
Three spots.
It's going to be Uncle Drew versus Joel Embiid.
He's starting with the top of the key.
Top of the key.
It's the top wing.
Yeah, but that's what it's going to be.
They should have three entry pass areas, and you can figure out.
Yeah, who's going to win that, though?
Is it going to be Uncle Drew or Joel Embiid?
Because I'm the two best one-on-one players in the league.
Joel Embiid or Uncle Drew?
Nah, when it comes to,
he got to play defense too.
Yeah, but how do you do it?
Is it make or take it?
You got three, but that's what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is if the entry is
you have to pay to get in,
the NBA will see.
Make it like $100,000. The NBA will see make it like a hundred thousand the NBA
will see like how how far y'all been off of entertainment that'd be the most this
101 would be more entertaining than the actual all-star game sure enough
hundred thousand hundred thousand and get it winner take all hundred thousand
each entry we're all you going to see some heartless...
Some fouls.
No, there's going to be some stars that just be like, yeah, I'm wearing a 505 type of
gun.
A lot of guys are going to be ducking smoke.
A lot of guys are going to be ducking smoke.
That's...
A lot of people's favorite players are going to be ducking smoke.
Your favorite player is going to be scared because this right here,
when you talking about going hard, one-on-one,
I don't need no teammates.
I don't need none of that shit.
It's just all me.
Oh, yeah, this is real shit right here.
You definitely signing up, huh?
Oh, they're gonna be, oh, hell yeah.
If you were playing, if this was-
Senior division?
Yes.
Go ahead.
I know you're signing up.
You're signing up for sure. Then I'll be mad that I got to play against a motherfucker like Mello. The water vision yes, I know
Then I'll be mad I got pregnant motherfucker like mellow
Stop this nigga. So now you already know that's mark. That's gonna be a weak wrestling. Oh, so elbows Hey, I gotta play defense like this
That's gonna be the real that's gonna be the realest shit ever
That'll be don't think about they had to guard Jordan one-on-one in that all the people that used to talk ah they don't have no chance you're gonna
start hearing that put your money where your mouth in see where put the thing you're seeing
i see you in february it's crazy you won't need you won't even need no three-point contest no
more you won't need none of it it'll be a lot less trash talk about the trash you're't have you don't have 50 to 100 people injured yeah they're talking about the
dunk contest nobody tune in for it no more put that shit on put that shit on
you can keep it through
take out one of them celebrity games too
take the shit out of this bitch now
they need to let us play in the celebrity game
and it's gonna be the most
Cuz it's gonna be all the NBA players is gonna watch it
That's a torii. Whoa shit
Clay Thompson versus Booker. Oh shit. Yeah
Sure, I got clay she niggas gonna be over there more be so much money money money being passed around
They're gonna be not God. Ooh, ooh, I got booked right now.
I got booked right now.
I bet.
He gonna cheat. What are they playing to, though?
Five or seven?
We need the boxing intro.
They're playing to seven.
It can't be too long.
We got to have TV time.
We got to keep it short.
Yeah, it'll be seven.
That's why I say it got to be seven.
It got to be like maybe, what, five players?
Maybe six.
We ought to have been to All-Star Weekend
where they got these convention centers.
Where they rent these convention centers out
to have the NBA jam sessions and all that in.
Multiple games at the same time.
You go get the same.
You can weigh these things, work these cameras.
Different feeds.
You can go to this game.
You can go to this game.
You have all of them going on at once.
That's a fact.
Streaming.
You can have all the games on the tube at once.
They can start that Friday like Friday to start that Friday
YouTube
Sunday how they got an NFL ticket right on YouTube TV right now
They got the four games you can go you can have four and you can go pick which one you want to watch out before
I'm rolling on that. I'm right. NBA. NBA. Underdog. Let's put it on. Baby.
Give the Reno one on one.
Obviously, they're going to give me shit.
I'm going to put it in.
But that's the thing.
One on one. That's the thing.
That's the thing.
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That's the thing.
That's the thing.
That's the thing. That's dribbles. It's three dribbles.
No, we're not calling
no travels, though.
It's three dribbles.
You're gonna be
traveling.
I'm just living at feet.
You can't do that no more.
What are you gonna do, Gil?
Trap.
Trap!
Nah, he ain't gonna travel.
I'm about to say,
man, leave that OG alone, man.
He ain't gonna travel.
Before we keep this show moving, I also want to send some praise out about to say, man, leave the OG alone, man. He ain't going to travel.
And before we keep this show moving,
I also want to send some praise out to Kelly Oubre,
who was hospitalized Saturday night after being struck by a vehicle near his home,
suffered a fractured rib, expected to miss some significant time,
recovered from the injury.
Maxie dedicated his 50-point game to his recent teammate,
who he said he got tons of love for,
even though they just started playing with each other.
That's tough.
Wait, how did he get hit? Who said he got tons of love for even though they just started playing it with each other, but it's tough
CBS he's going to CVS or walking home from CVS by his house my spot
Was it any foul play though? Just hit him and kept going. It was like drunk driver hit and run or something?
I don't know. He kept going.
Take the side view mirror hit him with the side view. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, he kept going.
How close was he on the side? Well, he was...
Oh, we don't know
Is the leg in his head to get away mama?
Should be the first suspect right there.
Moving forward, moving forward.
Let's talk about it.
I get hit by a car and we don't know who did it.
Trust me, God damn it.
I know the person.
You know the person?
Yeah, yeah. I know where it goes.
I'm going to name these three cars.
First 48.
Let's talk about these bucks a little bit.
Come on, man.
You know right now, you got hit by a random goddamn car.
We know who did it.
Nah, man, all love to Kelly, man.
Right, right.
On a serious note, obviously, we don't take shit serious on this show,
but serious injury, so we're praying for him to get back on the court soon.
Let's talk about these Bucs a little bit.
Dame sidelined with a calf injury the past two games.
Gianna's been putting in work for the Bucs in those games, but it hasn't translated to the court soon. Let's talk about these Bucs a little bit. Dame sidelined with a calf injury the past two games. Yana's been putting in
work for the Bucs in
those games, but it
hasn't translated to the
win column.
Last Thursday, Greek
Freak dropped 54 on the
Pacers, but became the
first player in NBA
history to lose a game
with 50 points, shooting
75% from the field, and
more than 10 rebounds
in a game.
These are just notes
and nuggets.
I'm just reading.
I just host.
Followed that up with
35, 10, and 7, and four
steals and two blocks against the Magic.
Took another L.
So Chris Middleton's been on a minutes restriction all season.
He's averaging about 19 minutes a game in the seven games he's played.
Like I said, Dame has missed the last two games with a calf injury.
But DeJon is having to be this dominant so early on in the season.
A concern for the Bucs right now.
They're 5-4.
We thought the
free time era was gonna be I mean you don't have the second and third option
so he's out there by himself right if he don't do this well I don't give it I
mean they have no chance of winning yeah I think I'm gonna be okay playing for
the Marathon long as they healthy when it when it count I don't nobody want to
play them you said should the Bucs be worried?
The Bucs, Bucs, Finns.
No, the fucking league should be worried.
Right.
They should be worried when Dame and fucking Chris Middleton
get back what this boy going to look like then.
Yeah, but...
He already determined...
He scored 50 without them, and that's all you got to focus on?
He already determined when he got Dame over,
imagine when they come back how he going to be playing all the leagues?
He'll be fucking very concerned.
A lot of love on here for the 4-1-4.
Bucks fans.
NBA.
Bucks and six.
Bucks and six.
NBA.
I'm sorry.
Bring back eight preseason games.
Bring back the eight preseason games.
They're not getting in shape.
Hamstring and soft tissue injuries are mostly like being out of, not in shape.
You're not in condition, right?
And the fact that you're only playing like three or four games and then you-
Live action.
You're going for like-
They're not playing three or four.
You're going for like 10, 15 minutes, going 15, 20% and then going to-
35 minutes.
100%.
They're not playing three or four games.
They playing two.
Two games, yeah. They're playing two.
The Stars and Blue Guys are playing two games.
Four, like, you add up the minutes,
they're playing totally maybe two full basketball games for them.
Yeah.
That's not enough.
That's not enough.
Your preseason was what?
Like, how many games were we in?
Eight.
Eight.
Eight.
So eight, you know, I'm going to play like,
you know, first game we're going to play like, you know,
15 to 20 minutes, 25 to 30 minutes, 35 to 30 minutes.
Like a rev up. Yeah, we're going to rev up to get our body used to it like think about like think about it is imagine
Not doing something and then say go out and go hard you don't tell me you gonna pull something
You know the cramps like they ain't even get the motherfucking cramps in yet that first three game three days of training camp
You sitting this fast That first three days of training camp, you sitting there spazzed out.
Charlie.
Charlie.
Charlie. He's sitting there like this.
Plenty of people just sitting on the pitch.
Ah.
Ah.
Yeah, you got to.
That's because your body got to get used to burning that salt and putting the salt back in.
There's a process of it.
They're not going through the process, and it's costing these guys like end game right now.
Facts.
That's a fact.
And conditioning is different.
Preseason conditioning is different.
They don't even run no more.
They say stuff like playing basketball is how you get in basketball shape.
You got to run so that your muscles can,
so that lactic acid can, you can get used to it.
You know, you got to do some old school running
and then incorporate playing.
That's why it's so crazy that guys be out so much.
Like back when we was playing, we wasn't ever out that long. Like we wasn't, crazy that guys be out so much like back when we were playing we wasn't ever out that long
Like we wasn't like guys they be out so much now like it's like like what are y'all doing in the summer?
but now is they out right but
Just say during the season if you just say you hurt your shoulder
Right and before the season they make you do this fucking reach test
See how far you can reach just so you hurt your shoulder now to come back they do
make you do this same reach test and if your shit was 19 to begin the season that you at 17 now that
you ain't fully healthy so you can't fucking play like no i'm fine but the doctor said you can't
play the team say no you gotta get the 19't play. The team said, no, you got to get the 19.
Like, I get it.
You got modern medicine.
You got modern recovery.
And we're playing less.
As a player, like, who got hurt, who was rushed back, who I respect it now.
I'd rather you better, you know, better safe than sorry.
Than just, well, they were doing to us.
How do you feel?
It's swollen.
It's a fine line.
It ain't that swollen.
It's a fine line.
It ain't that swollen out there.
It's a fine line.
Them allowing us to be barbarians
and them babying away.
That's what I'm saying.
There's a rest.
You got to...
That's what I'm saying. Not even hurt. That's what I'm saying. There's a... There's a... That's what I'm saying.
Not even hurt.
That's what I said.
Now it's really...
I can't even pay more money
now we're resting like this.
I can't even pay five months
after my microfracture surgery.
Let's be honest.
Yeah.
No way.
I shouldn't have been
in no fucking basketball
floor in five months.
Yeah.
Oh, he's part of
the microfracture?
Yeah.
Yeah, we all got
fucked up on that thing.
That's why AI...
They don't even do that
anymore.
That's why AI is always there.
No, no, no.
Because they was practicing medicine. AI would forever be different. They don't even do that no more. That's why AI is always different. No, because it was practicing medicine.
AI will forever be different.
They fucked us up.
He played 41 a game, 41 minutes a game.
Yeah, I was with him.
All over the...
41, 42?
Yeah.
Hurt everything.
You can sub me out.
That's why MJ...
No.
MJ played all 82 nine times.
MJ, right?
Yeah.
That's why MJ different.
He played all 82 nine times. Yeah. right? Yeah. That's why MJ different. He played all 82 nine times.
Yep.
And 81 another two or three times.
Nine times out of 13 seasons.
Yes.
81 and 80 and the other ones.
81, 80 and 80, and then...
The only one he didn't play was when he broke his angle.
That's the only one.
And then like 57 with the Wizards.
Yep.
Yeah, but that don't...
And he still played all 82 games, though.
And then the next year he played all 82.
Yeah. It was 100 then. Oh, yeah. that don't... And he still played all 82 games, though. And then the next year he played all 82. Yeah.
It was 100 then.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
It's different now.
So we talked a little bit
about Giannis.
Now we got to talk
a little bit about Danassis.
Gets a lot of slander.
Some of our greedies
only on the Bucks roster
because of his brother.
But Imani Bates
came to his defense.
Look, I'm just saying.
So after someone asked
if Danassis is the worst
player in the league,
Cavs rookie Imani Bates came to the defense, posted the following on IG.
Y'all quick to call somebody trash.
I don't even know what dude been through and what he had to do to get here.
He's probably one of the best locker room guys.
Keeps the energy up.
Make sure to do his job every day without complaining like LOL.
Like, y'all, be so quick to judge somebody for some clout.
It's so bad.
For real, we got to do better.
Now, Kenyon, you have a,
it looks like you have an opinion
you'd like to share with the group.
Go ahead.
He can be all those things.
He's a great locker room guy, yes.
Excellent energy guy, yes.
Let's stop.
Let's not act like that's not a true statement.
That his brother is great.
MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, all those things.
And if he say he want his brother there, guess what they gonna do?
Be there.
There's a, somebody made a, it's a highlight clip of him.
That's going around.
A blooper clip? It's a highlight, no, fuck, it's his highlight clip. Is this his highlight clip of him. That's going around. A blooper clip?
I want to call it a highlight.
It's a highlight.
No, fuck.
It's his highlight clip.
It's his highlight clip.
To go with the question that was asked,
is he the worst player in the league,
somebody, before this question was asked, I think,
put out a highlight clip of him.
They did it to JaVale.
Yeah.
Right?
JaVale, NBA champion. JaVale. Yeah. Right? JaVale NBA champion.
JaVale got real nice highlights.
He dunk on people, block shots,
everything.
He's the NBA champion.
JaVale brother didn't play on the team.
JaVale got real highlights though.
When he dunking on people
and stuff like that. He got real highlights.
Could he be different if more men,
this is something we don't know,
he don't play enough to be effective,
to have anything other than what we see,
and to give us those thoughts.
If there's, like people used to be on Shaq
about fucking with people, right?
If there's not material for Shaq to fuck with people about,
he can't fuck with you.
If he didn't have these highlights of himself,
a.k.a. bloopers,
then there would be nothing for anyone to say or have to say.
But when he checks in the game,
there's a great possibility he
gonna give somebody ammunition great locker room guy yes energy guy yes great
teammate yes check check check check check check but goofy though 9450 uh-huh
what is he doing out there?
Trash.
I played against him overseas.
Was he good?
I played against him overseas.
He played the same way overseas.
He'd pick up full court, you know, foul.
Only thing is, he'd get more dunks over there.
He averaged like four points, six points.
No, no, no.
Now, this is... Now, you remember that world team y'all want to play against?
Right?
Remember that world team y'all was talking about? He's the second best player second best playing Greece just let y'all know. No, he's not. No, he's not
Oh, yes. No, he is not. Yeah stop
He's not the second best player third fourth or fifth. He ain't nowhere near 10. Would he make
Would he make the team if it was an all Greece team?
Because because his brother he'll make but no fuck if guys have to try for the team, what do you make of the Greek team?
Because there's some players out there like Nicolaitis, Saluskas, Pepe Pichula.
I play EuroLeague.
I play for the Greek team.
Yeah, there's some real dogs out there.
Names, though, boy.
You know what I'm saying?
I see you running them all, you know, yelling.
Pepe Pichula.
Oh, shit.
Nice.
You got it.
Brand New York Guard resident. I. That's it. Got it.
Brand New York Guard resident Bucks guy.
I couldn't say it if you said it four times.
Send me right now.
Brand New York resident Bucks guy, Mr. Bucks is six.
Thoughts on Thanasis on that Bucks roster?
Do you have a problem with it?
Yonah's first chip in 50 years.
No, I mean you bring it.
Two time MVP.
Yeah, no, you bringing a chip to a city first 50 years, they better give you whatever you
want. Yeah, they are. Like I don't have to question. Yeah, yeah you bring in a chimp to a city first 50 years They better give you whatever you want
Should he be on the team no no he
Whatever he did in life. He got his seat is all he's saying like cuz I guess before
Giannis became Giannis. He was he was the man feeding the family. Yeah, he was feeding the family
He got hurt and say hey show turn think they were sharing shoes back in the day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the last dude on the bench is not the star anyway.
That's what he's supposed to bring.
He did his job.
He did his job.
I watched the movie.
I did, too.
I watched the movie.
They made me change.
Like, when you watch a movie.
Yeah, of course.
All those things are new.
I mean, he's definitely somebody you can put in the game and go fuck him up.
There's another basketball player somewhere that's fucking better and they game and go fuck tomorrow. Like, go fuck tomorrow.
There's another basketball player somewhere that's fucking better and they don't have
a job.
I don't give a fuck about that.
But I'm fact.
I hear you, yes.
Yes.
He's over here like, yeah.
I hear you, yes.
But did you share shoes with him?
But you know what I'm saying?
But the fact, the facts are yes.
Everything is yes.
Absolutely.
Great story.
Yes. There's a basketball player somewhere that can have that job. Mm-hmm. Absolutely great story. Yes
There's a basketball player somewhere that can have it. Yeah, that's all I mean, that's all listen we get it
But let's not forget what seed it is. It's number 15, right?
Which a bit of it the chances are you getting in this game number 15? Oh, I don't know
How good you are use 15 so I don't give a fuck if your
skill level is 1 or
100. You ain't getting in the game.
Let's see Constantine. Oh, it's Constantine.
It's a lazy boy. I'd rather
it be him so he can
help his brother. Yeah, absolutely.
He'd definitely be helping Giannis.
Sometimes Giannis be going crazy and he's the only one
that can be like,
that's it, we'll leave the court.
That's it, we'll leave the court. He don't know he don't even like
It was between the brother absolutely not he is serving his purpose with the Milwaukee Bucks. Yes.
And if you foul Giannis crazy, he'll run off the...
And that's why you have him.
That's why you have him.
Go check in.
I think it was a year or two they got into it.
They come into the locker room and start cussing out a dude in Greece.
I can't understand one word they were saying, but they was going hard.
He was riding for it.
Oh, he's definitely going to ride for it, as he should.
He should definitely be the one to get kicked out of the game.
Two million? Yes. He should definitely be the one to get kicked out of the game. Two million?
Yes.
He should definitely be the one to get kicked out of the game, not his brother.
He's going to earn his check.
If somebody gets kicked out, it should be him, not Giannis.
Trust me.
Let's keep this thing moving.
Another interesting topic I'm really curious to hear you guys' opinions on.
This weekend, Katie and LeBron had to put the narrative that Hoopers shouldn't be friends with each other in a pack. So after the Lakers-Suns game,
the Suns Twitter account posted a pic of Katie and LeBron smiling with each other during the game.
Borderline key king, to use a word that you guys...
Wait, he's saying that they shouldn't be friends?
What? No, that Hooper shouldn't be friends with each other.
Who said? Some fans.
I'm doing my host. I'm doing the hosting.
They're saying there's two buddy-buddy out there.
So one fan wasn't feeling it, said MJ would never.
So he said, I hate this we all friends laughing through the game shit.
It's time to go to work.
Kill these mofos and keep your foot on their necks.
This is one of the reasons why MJ is the GOAT.
MJ simply killed everyone in sight.
Now, as you guys know, Kevin Durant is a Twitter aficionado.
He uses the platform quite regularly. So he clapped back at the fan, gave him some free game.
He responded, at some point y'all non-athletes gonna realize that friends compete harder against one another.
Then LeBron jumped in as well.
He used some visual evidence.
Posted a pic of MJ and Charles Barkley smiling while hooping against each other.
Now, it could be inferred LeBron was comparing himself to MJ and KD to Barkley,
but that is a discussion for another day.
I don't like that, LeBron.
Do you agree with KD saying friends compete harder against each other?
Start with you, Gil.
Is it 5-1-4?
I guess he's never actually played sports or he don't have no friends.
Your real friend, you play 2K, that turns into a fight.
If your fights ain't turned, like, if you ain't start 2K
and then you doing some shit that ain't realistic to your friend
and y'all didn't go on the court and then fight
After that y'all wasn't real friends, right?
Like your friend is the one that knows everything about you the one that's gonna push all the buttons and you guys
It's war because you guys don't want to lose so your biggest matchups was with the guy that you know the best
Right and that's usually how it was. Me and my friends fought all the time.
I'm not trying to lose to you.
You're not trying to lose to me and
end up 21, we're going to fight.
And you got to hear about it.
You lose to your friend or your brother or something like that.
You got to hear about it daily.
It's the worst match-ups.
You lose friendships over competition.
I'm cool with him saying he don't like it,
but don't throw the MJ part in there.
Leave that part out, though.
Whether you're friends or not,
they would be going at it.
When you see KD and Bron play,
they don't be out there.
Dead ball, they might catch them,
but when they be going at it,
they be going at it.
I'm fighting for who's the best.
They been trying to figure out who the best.
One, KD think he better.
LeBron think he...
Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, I'm cool being number two
Let's ain't no friends when we only lace up we not friends when we out there even if we do share this mouth
That was crazy. Hi. Hi, but soon as the ball back in play
Add it we still humans human beings at the end of the day Human so my feelings are you know, like I'm it's a proud moment to like you probably grew up with each other like all type
Of things so it's like of course you're gonna you know, you're gonna have a kiki moment
You're gonna laugh like it's like yo look how far we come or whatever like you respect in you know life
And it's regular season, too. Yeah, there are human moments during the game.
You are a person during the game.
As competitive as I am and unfriendly as I am about the game,
there are times when you're on the
free throw line, dead ball.
Somebody you know, somebody might say
some shit out there that you...
Whatever the case may be, there are human
moments, man.
I get the competitive nature of it. I get the competitive nature of it, yeah, but I'm not into...
I heard that somebody was mic'd up a couple years ago and checked in,
Brian, and told him he was his fucking favorite player.
No, no, no.
That part, fucking no.
Yeah, yeah.
We're not going to do all... right yeah we're not fucking friends but they
ain't friends that's what that sounds like you're a fan so but other than some
shit like that what did KG do that one time damn it
yeah somebody tried to give you yeah they did it one time yeah but they're not friends though
they're not friends though okay how about this about this? He was trying to establish a friendship.
Go to Paul Gasol and Kobe in USA Basketball.
What did Kobe do?
Flatlined him.
Flatlined him.
That was for our nation, though.
But they're real friends.
But they are real friends.
They go to each other's kids' graduations.
Those are real friends.
That's the real thing.
Like, you're not going to respect me if I don't go hard at you like Larry Hughes is my my my big brother
That was my mentor look at our games against each other
I'm trying to fuck him up
Because I know he's trying to stop me, but that's what brings out the best of your friend like you
I've never seen somebody like a dog. Let me score
Let me score a score. Let me score,
dawg. Let me go ahead and get this easy.
There's a lot of guys in the NBA now.
But those are not friends.
I've seen that high school tryout one
time. These two trash dudes, but they let each other
score to make each other look good. I appreciated
it. It was admirable. Not them two, though.
They both got cut, though.
They both got cut, though.
Even with Michael Jordan.
Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley. Listen with Michael Jordan. Like, Michael Jordan
and Charles Barkley.
Listen, Michael Jordan
and Charles Barkley
like this.
Just to show you.
Work.
Work.
But think about it.
Right?
They partied every day.
They did this.
Why are they not friends now?
Because Barkley,
friendship-wise,
said, yo,
what you doing over there
with that goddamn team?
You a trash ass army.
You hiring your fucking friends and this shit getting watered out.
And as a friend, my doors...
I'm telling you the truth.
Charles Barker told the truth as a friend.
He didn't like it.
Yep.
Which tends to happen sometimes with friends.
But it brings me to my next question.
But that's the...
So you get it.
You get the understanding.
And when they play against each other...
Your friends is your worst critics.
Why do people try to act like MJ didn't have friends around the league you hear the stories about him
Playing cards with the name all night during a playoff game
Casuals though. Don't these are people who but I said these are people who never play sports
Yeah, fancy the night of his friends like you're not sitting in the room playing cards with a dude all night
You don't like yeah the fact that you're not friends or unless you try
If you don't like someone there's no way way you're going to spend hours around them playing cards,
talking shit.
I'm going to bust your ass tomorrow.
I hope you get some rest.
All this shit, you better go tell your guys.
That's the bantering, and that's the friendship of them that they had.
And they knew Mike was going to come out and destroy them, so they was ready.
It's the same thing.
Them guys probably playing cards.
They going to each other's wedding
and hanging out on yachts and all that shit
that people not privileged to see.
And they think that just because they put on opposite jerseys,
they supposed to hate each other.
And they don't.
But when they play.
When they play, like J.P. Smith.
Jermon Green and LeBron friends.
Who they hitting the balls again? LeBron James. LeBron. Who do you in the boss again?
They've never played they've never been competitive because you
Y'all playing video game 2k that shit popping out you break your controller breaking controller tv kicking
the nine that happens how many times you're the youngest certain to turn in the slap box
anything and turn the slap box all right friends you're close with no one you around david
slap box because we box turns straight into the fight yeah we playing football and
i whoop you can't whoop me yeah Yeah No, no slap box. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right
Man I was close this know it what?
Now we got a rumble. Oh, we got rebel. Yeah close now you go eat now you get done go get chips together
Yeah shit like this chips. Do you a little soda together?
Yeah, go right to the store. Hey get your clip your klepto on. Go to the candy house.
Go to the candy house.
Go right, get your klepto on.
Did y'all ever have beef with somebody before you got to know them?
Then you got to know them, you actually end up becoming friends
or somebody you might have played against that became your teammate.
And then you had to put...
Which is right.
And realize, oh, actually, they're pretty cool.
Nah, right.
I mean, that's sports, rival sports.
You're playing against, like, whatever your enemy team is. y'all whatever that is and y'all just battling and then somehow y'all become friends
Or y'all did something somewhere else and blow do cool
Listen dudes is way different in females like we can be best friends and not know nothing about the niggas. And don't care to know nothing about the niggas. Don't care, nah.
Like, yeah, that's dude with the purple shoes.
Hey, purple shoe, come on, man.
What you doing?
Come in the way.
Like, all I do is hoop.
Don't even know names.
All I do is hoop with them.
Don't even know each other's names.
But that's my man's dog.
That's my man's dog.
My man's dog.
Don't know his name.
Don't know nothing about him.
That's real talk.
That's real talk.
Don't know.
Ain't never met his mama.
Nothing.
Just my man. Know nothing. All I do is hoop. That's my talk. That's real. I don't know. I ain't never met his mama. Nothing.
No, nothing?
Oh, man.
She's my boyfriend's man.
That's my partner right there.
Invited him over for dinner.
She's like, yo, what's his name?
Purple Shoes.
Purple Shoes.
Matter of fact, I don't even know him.
Hey, what's your name again, bro?
Start his life every day for two months.
Don't know his name.
Don't introduce yourself.
Baby, don't introduce yourself.
That's right.
Go introduce yourself, baby.
Go introduce yourself, because you don't know his name.
Like, what's his name?
Like, I don't know.
A flat out. You've been over him four weeks in a row. If you ever run into know his name. Like, what's his name? Like, I don't know.
A flat out.
You've been over it
four weeks in a row.
If you ever run into
that situation,
you got somebody with you,
you just do it.
Can you?
And then let them say their name.
Yep, yep.
I do that all the time.
Every time.
But sometimes they can figure it out
and they know.
Every time.
You're like, yo.
Introduce yourself.
Yeah, that's my man's though.
That's my man's in them.
So, Gil, you said Larry Hughes already, but for the rest of the panel,
who was a friend that brought the best out of you
when you competed against each other on the court?
Me, I'm going to say B. Knight.
Me and B. Knight have been playing against each other for a while.
We both was in the same draft, played against each other.
Brandon Knight for everybody. Brandon Knight, yeah. Then we played against each other even overseas too, like
in the Puerto Rican league. So we'd been playing against each other for a while and we work
out together. We got the same trainer. So we play once in the summer, make sure each
other's sharp. So before I knew him, it was a little bit more personal. But once we started
training together, it was like, oh, no, he a cool dude.
Because, you know, once you play somebody on the court and you never know him,
you ain't trying to know him while you're out there.
But, like, off the court and you, like, there's no pressure.
It's just man to man.
You're like, oh, he's solid.
That's all.
As long as you're solid.
I don't got to know everything about it.
I just need to know you're solid.
You know, if you're solid, you're cool.
Ain't no fun boy.
Like, you don't know weird stuff.
Like, it's cool like
Have you had that opposite experience where you might have thought somebody was solid?
It's like that sometimes it's like that sometimes Oh For real Wait a minute. You know the, you remember the morning? Oh, the committee, you mind if I suck?
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody think that was a good thing.
You think you wasn't supposed to find out?
Yeah.
See,
the water was glistening all over your body.
Your body.
I said, I said,
the water was glistening all over your body.
See, see, every time I try to tell you shit, I said, I said, the water was glistening all over your body.
See, see.
Every time I try to tell you shit, it neared into my heart.
It went, no.
It just sounded like you was on some bullshit.
That sure is a good indicator, though, with some alcohol.
Nah, bro.
Some women getting in the mid-life.
Or when they get around girls, dudes act different.
Or like, you hang around a guy enough, and then you hear him talk about somebody else who his friend he like breath
I was his friend. How you talking about him? Like I gotta know stay away from him
But sometimes I think I got girls shit up to think you y'all solid partners
Then both y'all like the same girl damn fistfights. So I just becomes like a sly that private fellow talking
Niggas marry what is his wife? Oh my god you all It comes like fly. Pillow talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nigga, he's throwing you. He's married.
What?
He's his wife.
Hold on.
Oh, my God.
He's throwing you all the way up under the bus.
And reversing that thing.
Gil was there.
Want to see?
Want to see?
Here it is.
Look at that.
Right here.
Oh, I got that my rookie year by some players.
They did that to you?
Yeah.
All-star weekend.
I was like, damn.
Okay. I don't even comment. That's how it-star weekend. I was like, damn. Okay.
I don't even comment.
That's how it is?
Family stuff, I don't even comment on it.
So, Kane, who was a friend that brought the best out of you on the court?
Wow.
I...
Was there somebody that could match your intensity?
Yeah, no, I played against certain guys.
No, I didn't...
This is going to sound god-awful, man.
He ain't no friendly.
He had no friends.
I thoroughly agree with that.
You took it.
He had no friends.
I didn't hang out with NBA guys, though.
I didn't.
In my 15 years, the guys that I knew, like a couple guys from Cincinnati,
I hung out with DeMar Johnson and certain guys, but I didn't hang out.
If I saw you out, cool, we would hang out, but I didn't hang out with NBA guys.
Like, we planned to go trips with my teammates every year.
I just, it wasn't in my nature to be that way.
I don't know why, but it just wasn't.
And for me, and then you played on opposite teams.
You know what I'm saying? I'm not going nowhere with you that's just how i made up what's it is how i made up man who would have been your closest
demar johnson right that'd been your closest and y'all don't even play the
same position yeah like that so but we battled like me and zebo
like battle like it was a healthy competition me and kg
battle healthy competition certain guys like that battled. Like, it was a healthy competition. Me and KG battled.
Healthy competition.
Certain guys like that, yeah, when we see each other,
there's a mutual respect always.
Always a mutual respect.
Now, then, because we was going to bring the best out of each other,
no matter what it was.
You'd be rumbling, K.
Yeah, but I just didn't, I wasn't, I just wasn't that guy.
Like, for me to go you places with hang out
That's why he could follow him so crazy out there when they come to the room like the crazy like guys
Going to the guys house is going straight
I'll go to other guys cities during the summer if somebody from somewhere and stay at their house and drive a car
Like that shit is crazy
This I've been around and heard, like, seeing guys out.
Like, who...
What if DeMar Johnson came?
Yeah, but that's...
Okay, so...
I went to college together,
and I helped him, like, after his accident
and come to Denver.
It just...
Like, I was the first person,
after he was in his accident,
I was the first person at the hospital
It's different, but those are years today years today. Yeah, that's a
Year together versus predates the yeah predates that so our friendship is different than
This NBA shit. Mm-hmm had he been on the Atlanta Hawks and I was on the Denver Nuggets
Forever and we never went to college together. It's different.
But I just never, I just, I never did, bro. To be honest, I'm trying to think of any time that went to opposing teams, like guys wearing on other, never was invited, never
was around to be that.
I guess I was looked at in a certain way.
You out there, hey.
You gonna invite King?
Nope.
Man, boy, hey.
You got me crazy last season.
Oh yeah, you just lose lines. Yeah, man. You fouled me crazy last season.
Oh, yeah, you just lose lines.
Yeah, it's personal.
So, yeah, and the way I play the game, I get it.
You said the way I play the game?
Dude.
Fouled him crazy, didn't stare him down.
People that know me, cool as a motherfucker,
but the people that don't,
if your only interaction with me was that 94-50,
yeah, you probably got a bad taste in your mouth about it.
So us hanging out in the offseason, slim and none.
I just got a few minds like Nick Young.
Like if Larry Hughes' boys come in town, they need a ride, you can use a ride.
Nick Young, he get kicked out of the house, come on, man.
God damn.
You know, so I got a few.
Yeah, the friendship that I see some guys have.
I mean, growing up, did I have friends that maybe I didn't have any? Because I got a few. Yeah, the friendship that I see some guys have.
I mean, growing up, did I have friends that maybe I didn't have any.
Because I was number one.
What about the legs?
Like growing up, no, seriously.
And then I think just my, my, uh.
You didn't have no friends that tried to compete with you?
I mean, yeah, but we weren't friends.
Like, like, like, I just felt like the way, like, where my life went, like, going to, you know, Dominguez, O'K Hill, overseas. I really didn't have any time to have friends.
So, you know, to me, I was like number one, but I was always away.
So it was like I couldn't really have any.
Oh, so that junior, senior year where you and your friends is really, oh, you didn't have that.
Yeah, so you got like, you know, high school.
I didn't have no, you know, I had two years at Dominguez and then Oak Hill.
It was like I didn't really have a chance to really have any friends.
That's on the other side of the country.
Yeah, because of basketball.
So it was like at Oak Hill, you know, just competing.
That's fucked up.
I had friends like in high school, but pro level, like me not even the only person I would say is a friend now.
And like it took years to do that.
Okay.
It took years.
And this,
excuse me, and the,
should we say it on the show before?
This friend turn
is thrown around too lightly.
Very lightly.
I don't throw that around.
You know why it is?
I think because
most friendships,
most friendships
are built from when you're little, right?
You're built from when you were yay high.
You got to, which for the most, you lose them sometimes, right?
Those childhood friends, if you make it to the pros, because then you're around your teammates.
But your teammates is more this adult thing.
It's not true friends.
So when you're done playing, you might hang out or keep in contact with a few.
Like you're talking about 10, 12 years.
You might have two or three teammates that you like, I fucked with you.
Right?
Other than that, those are just coworkers.
Coworkers.
You know what I mean?
Associates. Yeah, like LeBroners. You know what I mean? So like-
Associates.
Yeah, like LeBron James.
We know who his faux friends are.
Right, right, right.
Right.
Same ones when they got drafted with and then you added Chris Paul, that's it.
He ain't hanging out with the rest of the motherfuckers for real.
There's a lot of people who really think they're his friends that don't know.
I'm about to say say I ain't got no
All my friends are like successful no no like your friends change too though
Like a lot of my friends. I don't like talk to every day or anything like that like my friends are busy
So I don't know I think I don't know some people your friends might change with you your success and like where you're headed in life too. Yeah. Everybody ain't gonna make it every season.
I think real friends, like real friends, that don't, they don't go nowhere.
Like it ain't people will use this, oh that's my day one. Like, uh, nah that's somebody that's been
solid with you from day one. Not somebody who you grew up with or somebody who was,
you went to elementary school with y'all
Still remain like they got back to three. What's the real friend to you?
Like what do you like somebody you share intimate moments with that don't the one you found who real friend? Yeah fucking Tony Yale
Yeah
to 50
And that's a Rick Hamner Mason. That's a real friend. Like, loyalty.
Don't waver, don't change, don't do shit.
No matter what we go through, no matter what I go through, no matter what I do, no matter
what I say, you remain him.
From when I met you, you ain't did no fuck shit.
You ain't, because of girls, money, success, have, have nots, the bankruptcy shit, all
the shit that that man went through,
that man been right there. That's a real friend, in my opinion. That's real. And people throw that
shit around and they use it. It's convenient to say that's my friend. It's convenient for people. But true people, true friends.
Ride, dive.
You cannot call your friend for a year.
Yeah, I was going to say that. And they don't get emotional about it.
Right.
Because they understand, you know what I mean?
This is forever, so it ain't really.
But your real friend ain't going to let that much time elapse.
Whether it's a text message or something.
Something quick.
It ain't got to be y'all get together.
It could be a two second phone call or a text message.
They just check it in, bruh.
Yup.
You know, they come and call us, so that's.
First of all, you got any friends?
Huh?
No, no, no, I'm just saying, you guys are friends?
No, because we're talking, we don't have any friends.
I'm here to host. You want me to count all the friends? I'm here to host. No, no, no, like they won like
high school
Every other friends
No, no, but but the but the people
As life has evolved right
To your point. Yeah, they say people in no friends. As life has evolved, right? To your point.
Yeah.
They say people in your life for a season or a reason, right?
Yeah.
Exactly.
And people who you were around at a certain point in your life,
this part of your life, those people change.
Depends on where you are and your success, where you live, your demographic.
Like people's...
Motives change.
Motives, people's...
That's the thing.
It's the motives.
It's like the motives.
Yes.
A lot of it is that, but it's people's self, people's sense of entitlement change.
True, man.
It's a lot that goes into this friendship thing that people consider.
But to go back to KD and Bron, as a public, people don't know those times
or what they talk about, how much they hang around each other in the offseason,
whether they talk on the phone.
We don't know these things. So, like Katie said,
to the non-athletes,
this is not for y'all to understand.
First of all, we probably don't even think
they even hang out.
But if they do,
but it's not for the non,
it's not for them to understand
on why they laughing during the game.
Why do you think when this man walks up and talks
that he puts his hand
or his jersey over his mouth?
They're good fellas.
It's intimate moments
that I don't need
y'all a part of.
And that's what we have here.
It's these intimate moments
that average people
don't understand.
It's not for you to understand.
They reach.
That's real.
Damn, I was talking for a long time. That's good. That's quality. That's real. Damn, I was talking for a long time.
That's good. That's quality.
That's what I love this show.
When we go off and get into some real
spiritual deep shit, because it's bigger than just basketball.
Or somebody say, I'm the uncle at the barbecue.
Gil questioning how many friends some of us have.
No, because when someone
asks me, yo, you hanging out with your friends?
I'm like,
my friends, my friends? Nah, I'm too busy.
Y'all don't do shit, no.
I'm working right now.
I don't get to hang out with my real friends.
If they ain't at the house, I ain't gonna see them.
Like I had some dudes I've met over the last few years
who I consider a friend.
Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah, like that,
I'm becoming a hit.
Are you serious?
No, like I'm just starting to trust people.
I guess I'm starting to,
a lot of my friends are just successful.
And I like that.
I like to be around people that are doing shit.
Because you know they're not pulling on you.
Yeah, they're not asking me for nothing. They don't need shit.
If they are hitting me, it's just to check in.
It's not like what they can do.
That's why I asked you,
because it's different because our friends,
we have to, there's more of this big ass filter.
Oh, for sure.
And they got to go through like, ah.
Like, you asked me for $4, I'm good.
I'm good, man.
I ain't ask you for $4.
Like, I don't want to be this nigga's friend no more.
Because they go, $4 today, $400 tomorrow, maybe.
And you know you're not seeing,
but if you do that now,
I'm not going to see that shit back.
My real friends can ask me, but they also know it can be no,
and they're going to be cool with it being no.
But on the opposite, when somebody does borrow some bread,
even if it's years down the road, and it's like,
oh, man, remember when I borrowed the $180?
Nah, I got one back. I was surprised. Like, yo.
I gave a dude $10,000 to go, his name is H, to... for a dream. Didn't work out.
He became successful,
though, and then he's like,
yo, you know, I need to give you something.
Gave me back 10 grand.
See, that's hard.
He gave me back 10 grand
and I felt I owe him money.
It's been, what,
six years.
He gave it to me. That's dope. And didn't forget. He didn't forget. He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget.
He didn't forget. He didn't forget. He didn't forget. He didn't forget. He didn't forget. Because you're so used to, you know, shit. But now it's like I'm hanging around friends that got it. It's like, oh, shit.
I just like the friends that order within their means.
Like they don't use the dinner as an opportunity to get shit that they've never got before.
Just order the shit you normally get.
If you a chicken tender mother, order the chicken tender.
You ain't never ordered this shit before in your life.
You can't even spell lobster.
Let's move on to Mostly Fans, our last segment of the day.
Come on.
Ladies and gentlemen.
Hey.
Here we go.
94.7 away.
I like the fade.
So first question comes from underdog username ThereGoesJordan.
ThereGoesJordan.
Are the Rockets fake good, or do they have a roster that can keep them in position
to make the playoffs so they won their last six games?
They're 6-3 right now.
Hmm.
He may not be a believer yet.
I don't think we care.
I think that they're so young that I think just they go on
like a 3-4 game losing streak, it can crack.
I think it's good now.
You know, they got a couple veterans,
but they so young.
None of them know what winning is.
I think just, you know,
they're going to lose.
And they're catching everybody
while everybody's trying to get in shape.
Yep.
They're young legs.
Yeah.
But they, I mean,
what, Dillenbergs, they got FEV.
They got some guys.
They got some.
It's still early.
Singum, your guy.
No, but it's still early,
but I think the fact, they got young guys, yes.
But I think the guy who has the ball in his hands, Fred, going to help that out a lot.
And his relationship with head coach, with MA, I think those conversations,
I think if they're on the same page early like Fred and head coach I
think I think that could work because they got talent mm-hmm it's gonna take a
minute it's gonna take a minute but let's yes we'll see you didn't make the
playoffs to give you fucking ten spots to do it, so fucking why not? Oh, yeah. They got a chance.
They got a chance.
You all got a fucking chance.
They give you 10 spots to do it.
You got a chance.
Shit.
Yeah, they got a chance.
Yeah, absolutely.
I keep forgetting.
All five of us got a fucking chance.
I be forgetting.
Shit.
I'm setting screens.
I be forgetting they got the next response.
Shit.
Put us out there right now.
That's why we got a chance.
No.
Screens and rebounds.
Good on him. I can tell you that. can go offense right corner shot. I'm good
We play zone you tell me play. Oh, yeah, I can do some time play zone. Thank you. Play defense. Oh, I'm good
I'm good. I ain't got a play. Look I play defense when I
Feel for sure IQ
IQ oh, yeah, we got Anna give us tension. Thank you. What's 10 spots? Yeah
Come on, man. I'm just laying just letting you know, it's four five
Our next underdog user question comes from Ray dot 22
How many rings do y'all think the OKC trio would have if they would have stood if they were still together to this day?
The rest KD Harden one or two maybe one maybe one maybe two
I'm gonna keep keep my step. One for sure.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Ah, shit.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know because it wasn't, it was a little rocky.
It was a little rocky.
No, no, did the rocky come after that?
Nah, we didn't need to give some fish, man.
Nah, we didn't need to give some fish.
The rocky came after James left.
They the one that started Golden State's run.
No, yeah, yeah.
The one that didn't lost.
Yeah, no.
I think when James left, that's when you had Rocky. James, yeah, yeah. One of them lost. Yeah. I think when James left, that's when he got robbed.
No, but yeah, James left.
James left, man.
And then Russell Power caught when KD went down,
and he felt that taste of what he really was.
He got the trophy.
Yeah, I don't know.
Ifs and fifths.
Maybe one.
Maybe one.
I'm saying maybe one.
I can give them one.
If they all stayed, it was just...
And then they get one, then they all split for sure after that, though.
They definitely split.
Yeah, with that talent, they definitely could have won.
They wouldn't have beaten us, though.
But that's just what James...
The Jamesmen are still coming off the bench.
So maybe...
So maybe...
It was never going to beat us.
I don't know.
They would have had to get over the Spurs.
I know.
And they didn't.
They never did. Kawhi Leonard. They would have to get over the Spurs. I know and they didn't they never did Kawhi Leonard they fit
Yeah, because I'll the play would have been better for us
Other than the Spurs was kind of like maybe
timeframe
Like Golden State clicked right when everything was falling apart, you know Spurs is falling apart Miami like it was and bronze
Just go on G so they hit the most This team would have been broken up by then.
So our last question is a video question
that comes from Underdog User.
Ronnie's lost zero, and it's for Kenya.
What's up, y'all? This question is for Kenya Martin.
I'm just curious, like, how many fights
have you been in in the NBA?
Have you ever lost a fight?
And if you have, to who?
Everything from the backwoods, Beanie.
Hey, man.
To who?
Hey, man.
Highlights.
Get up there, 200, man.
Man, what?
You're going to steal.
To who, K-Bar?
You was really throwing who?
You was really throwing blows at me?
Oh, shit, man.
No windmill straight.
Firing off.
Undefeated.
What?
I lost some fights when I was younger.
But having enough of them, you perfect on how to throw these.
Listen, if you've had as many fights as I have in my life...
The one, two is legal.
Yeah, man, I'm pretty...
He said pretty versatile.
I'm not a boxer. I'm a fighter.
Like, I fight, like, people tell me when I go to the box
and I gotta put my hands on the other side.
I'm like, I've been throwing these things this way for a long time, dog.
And they quick, too.
Oh, they quick. Like've only had a few in game couple other times where I had to I had to tone it down after the Tracy
situation after the man Tracy got into it. David Stern warned me. But, no, I've practiced once, a couple.
Yeah, but I'm...
Because fights, they have to fight back.
So the one that didn't fight back...
Yeah, I had one in practice.
How about the 20 before where you just had to choke a nigga on the locker?
Hey, sit your ass down.
Yo, fight back.
Yo, fight back.
Yeah, no, email.
Who was reading emails then?
Emails then.
Phone call.
Hey, I need you to come across this bridge.
Which one are you going to take, the tunnel or are you going to take the GW?
I'll wait.
Uh-huh.
Son, if you want to continue to be a part of this NBA,
you'll change your ways.
Mm-hmm.
Simple as that.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I came from nothing, bro.
I ain't going to fuck this off.
You didn't tell him I stand no business?
I stand no business, David.
No, but think about it.
After a certain point...
No, I'm just kidding.
I didn't have to.
Set the tone already.
Dudes knew, man, he'll fight.
Once somebody knows you'll fight,
there's chances of them doing something or putting you in their spot.
I used to tell the ref, this is true shit, I ain't gonna name a few situations throughout my time,
we'd be on the dude out there run his mouth or doing some extra shit
We'd be on the free-throw line ref standing right there. I tell miss you better calm him down or I'ma do it
Who you talking about him right here?
Straight the fuck up
You calm him down. I'm gonna put him in his place
Sorry, mr. Martin
I'm not and that's a lot of dudes around here man
like they think about the tickets man, no, but now but they think about the
Suspension and the money and all that. No man my respect you do or say something. I'm gonna get dead on your ass. I
Deal with it later. I'm dead ass serious, man.
That just, especially out here,
like, this whole fear of love thing, man.
Fear lasts a lot longer, dog.
Trust me.
And I wasn't out there trying to have nobody fear me,
but when I got in, people knew that he'll fight.
So, to my point, I just mean,
if people know that about you,
they're a little less reluctant to try you.
Can you guesstimate your lifetime record?
Nah.
Like my sixth grade year, dog, I had to fight with the same dude damn near every day.
Damn.
Damn.
He was in the seventh grade.
I was in the sixth grade.
Of course, I'm bigger than everybody in the sixth grade,
so he figured that I'm bigger than everybody.
I'm like, no, dude, we're going to get it in.
Every day.
He won one day, I win the next.
Two in a row, whatever, we're going to get it every day.
You beat me today, we fight tomorrow.
He felt the same way.
As a kid, that's a lot of stress.
Damn, I got to get this nigga tomorrow
Every day at the school
Man, I'm the kid who got suspended from the rec center for fighting. I'm the kid like
Just my mom dropped me off at the gym because I was got in the fight
That's got in the fight at school something dropped my ass off.
My
environment, man. It ain't, trust me.
I didn't plan on being just
how I grew up. My environment I grew up in
is fucking wolves. Eat or be eaten.
And you seeing people act
a certain way, behave a certain way, you
gonna adapt
or they gonna fucking run over you.
And I just never turned it off.
From when I grew up high school, college, league, I never turned it off.
College, I put my hands, high school, I put my hands on people.
Teammates, none teammates.
College, teammates definitely got their work.
Fraternities around campus, work.
Got their work.
Document it.
League, team, work.
I'm saying teammates, non-teammates.
Just...
Why are different?
Yeah, I'm just why are different, man.
I'm not the guy you're going to keep poking.
I see you about to poke me, I might punch you.
It's just, I'm not that
but, and I'm long-winded.
We need to get out of here, but let's go.
You talk as long as you want, can't you?
No, I didn't question it.
I ain't going to be the one.
I ain't going to be the one to poke.
Right, right, right.
Let me just get this clear, though.
One thing I have done over time, I've grown up.
That wick ain't as short as it once was.
Like, my wick was, like, nonexistent before.
Life, people...
Family.
Kids.
Kids, I've grown in a lot of ways.
Take some Wu-Sign and...
So now you're the pit bull without a leash yeah absolutely
it's just like when I walk around my massive around the neighborhood people be looking at
him like I don't know if I want to he good I tell him see that's me now I'm calm I don't
bother nobody man but don't bother me though that. That's all good. But don't bother me, though.
Exactly. That's all.
Hey, hey, hey, wifey walking with us. King, you okay?
Yeah, don't try to. He good. He good right now.
Yeah, that's all. I don't bother nobody.
Stay in your lane. But don't bother me.
Words to live by.
So another legendary episode of Gil's Arena,
but Gil, you got a special announcement to make.
You got a pull-up to Melly Monaco's YouTube channel,
2 p.m. Pacific, 5 p.m. Eastern,
right after this show gets off the air.
You playing some tennis right now?
Yeah, we had our tennis match.
It was my million dollars versus her 9-11.
So it was round one.
Round one, okay.
Okay.
So 2 p.m. on Melly Monaco's YouTube channel.
Seven minutes.
Now.
They dropped the link.
Did they drop the link?
Just drop the link.
Five minutes away. Drop the link. My dropped the link. Just dropped the link. Five minutes away.
Dropped the link.
My bad.
I was long winded.
I'll be over there trolling.
I'll be over there trolling.
We appreciate the 19,000 plus fans that were in the chat today on the show getting it in.
We got another announcement too, right?
It's coming soon.
Okay.
We got to discuss it.
Okay.
We got to discuss it.
You know, for you to get me cussed out
by the powers that be.
But Norris,
we appreciate you pulling up today.
Your stuff is on the way, too.
Okay.
I got your order.
You see me,
I had to support the movement
or the show.
I didn't know,
I never know when I do that
if you'll find out about it
or where it is.
I hope you saw it.
I got it.
But you know,
we'll have you back on the show tomorrow, man.
Appreciate you having me today.
And can you be on later this week?
We got Rashad coming back with the crown brand. He'll be here tomorrow, man. Appreciate you having me today. And can you be on later this week? We got Rashad coming back
with the crown.
Brandon, you'll be here
tomorrow as well.
So we will see y'all all Tuesday
on Gil's Arena,
presented by Underdog Fantasy.
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