Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down How Shai SAVED The Thunder's Season

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down How Shai Gilgeous Alexander SAVED The Oklahoma City Thunder's Season as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Game 4 of the Mavs vs Thunder Series that saw SGA dip into his bag of mid-range magic to hold off Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving on another off night offensively for the Mavericks' superstars. They also react to Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and The Boston Celtics taking care of business against the Cavs without Donovan Mitchell but question if the close win showed that the C's aren't the championship caliber team we all thought they were. Next, they discuss LeBron James attendance to the Cavs' crucial playoff game and debate if the King's appearance has anything to with the Los Angeles Lakers ongoing coaching search which is being whittled down to JJ Redick and Celtics Assistant Sam Cassell. Finally, they preview the tip off of the WNBA season, discussing Caitlin Clark's much anticipated debut & debating if anyone will catch the Las Vegas Aces this season. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash AND A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! - https://discord.gg/underdog APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:14 Tyrese Leaves Show To Avoid Being Served 0:05:14 Rudy Gobert FINED Again For Money Gesture 0:13:54 LeBron James Crashes Game 4 In Cleveland 0:20:27 Lakers Head Coaching Targets 0:25:43 Are The Celtics Championship Caliber? 0:34:54 Will The Critics Get Off Tatum's Back? 0:48:23 Can The Cavs Guard Jaylen Brown? 1:01:28 Donovan Mitchell Deserves More Respect 1:05:18 Tatum Says Celtics Aren't A Superteam 1:11:58 Shai Saves the Thunder's Series 1:19:23 When Should Kyrie Takeover Offensively? 1:45:00 WNBA Tip Off 1:55:38 Who Wins Comets vs Aces? 2:01:50 WNBA Rookies To Look Out For 2:06:41 WNBA Community Picks 2:24:34 MostlyFans 2:26:39 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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As a more trusted, more secure payments network, Visa provides scale, expertise, and innovative payment solutions. Learn more at visa.ca slash fintech. Welcome back to Gilgarina. We're getting my $100 fantasy. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me.

This is my story. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes're gonna practice for the locker room. Agency, bro. Change it, yeah. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo! Okay. I like it.

Got some Laker fandom in the building, you know. Salute for some goat. For some. Maybe a throw for some. Mm-hmm. Maybe a throwback soon, we will see. Mm. Mm. Ooh, we don't know. Talk about what?

About what, yeah, what you talking about? I don't know. Probably be on the move, we'll see. Oh, stop, bro, stop, bro. He was out in Cleveland, looking mighty comfortable. Poor, stop, bro. He was out in Cleveland looking mighty comfortable. Stop that. Dan Gilbert doing some recruiting. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

As always, we have the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. Okay. Hi, Gil. Hello. We got Rashad McCants back in the building. Representing the Purple and Gold. Just LeBron? Okay, just like LeBron, Raymond James Sr.

And we got the GOAT, four-time WNBA champion, Cheryl Swoop. Big night for the WNBA. We turning up? Cheers it? Yes. Okay, let's do it. Opening night. Alright. Let's go. Salute. Salute. Y'all know what's in my cup. I don't know what's in their cup.

Water. I thought it was Kool-Aid. Just cranberry juice. Okay. It's going to be a productive day in the arena. So here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Celtics barely beat the Cavs without Donovan Mitchell, but do they look like a championship team right now?

As Cheryl mentioned, the WNBA season tips off tonight. Let's go. Will the Aces three-peat? And can Kaitlyn Clark live up to the hype in her rookie season? Okay, a lot of 22s. That's a lot of 22s around. I mean, I'm just saying. You know.

Good number. 22 representing here on Gills Arena. You already know. Finally. We got to make the number bigger, but it's a work in progress. I got you. And the Mavs tricked off an opportunity to take a 3-1 lead over the Thunder in Game 4. But did they trick off their season?

It remains to be seen. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Help us help you. Download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GILL, and you can receive up to a $250 bonus cash and a special pick. And we got the most popular picks of the night on the screen below. So ride with them or fade them.

But have fun tonight watching the games and playing pick'em with your friends at Underdog Fantasy. So those picks are Tyrese Halliburton, higher 20.5 points. Obie Toppin, higher 9.5 points. That feels like a good one. Anthony Edwards, higher 29.5 points. And Jalen Brunson, lower, 33.5.

Y'all still? He's back in the garden. He might need that footy out of me, though. That what? I don't like none of those. That footy out of me. I ain't like none of those. I'm not.

I ain't went so long. I don't even know. They're at Denver? Yeah, they're at Denver. Yeah, I don't like none of those. The altitude. I don't even know what to do. They're at Denver? Yeah, they're at Denver. Yeah, I don't like none of them. The altitude. I don't like that one either. Them lungs burning.

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and you are an Underdog Fantasy member and we use that question use that question to show us a $100 bonus to your account. And we are live on YouTube Monday through Thursday. But if for some reason you can't watch the show live, we've got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. So we're going to start it a little bit different today with one of my favorite actors and singers. Tyrese was performing in Georgia recently, but had to leave the show early to avoid being served with lawsuit papers. So the star of the hood classic Baby Boy was fittingly in the middle of performing

How You Gonna Act Like That when a security guard informed him that a process server was in the building. Tyrese walked off the stage, made his way to the nearest exit, ending his set with three songs remaining. So he's facing a $10 million defamation and libel lawsuit from director Brian Barber, who accuses Tyrese of attacking his character and reputation in an interview Tyrese did on The Breakfast Club last year.

So what'd you think about... I don't know. What did he say? Huh? What did he say? We don't know what he said. Something about... Is it the Fast and the Furious dude? You know, there was some things, yeah, some things going down about an interview he did and holding footage.

I wasn't really sure, but Brian Barber appears to be... Feeling some type of way. Tamil. I got to see what he say. You know, I'm definitely a king. I got to see what he actually said. I got to see if it's worth it, you know? But do you respect the move

ending the show early? Hell yeah. Get out. See you next time, sir. What more do you want from me? You're putting it on to just keep running? Huh? It don't count until you serve me.

I know. They got a fire in McFarland? I know how that works. We won't talk about that, but I know how it works. Ooh. Could you have some experience ducking process? What?

What's the key to ducking getting served by a patient? You got to be on a swivel. You can't trust nobody. Nobody. Mine happened in, it almost happened in Golden State. I was ducking child. I was ducking responsibilities for child. You know, I was waiting for the blood test back first.

Right? So I was in Golden State. I heard a person was out there. I had to swoop it off the back door, play the game. And then obviously we got Sacramento. So that server went straight to Sacramento. Yeah. And they got front row tickets.

Wow. Courtside. Right here. Look at it, too. And they already done warned, like, yeah, what he did last time, we're going to get him at the free throw line or out of bounds. I was not having it, so I missed the whole game. Are you serious? Give him a little warm-up. Everybody

looks suspicious. Like, yeah, you know what? went back to the locker room G14 classified right to Houston. Oh you got up out of there The NBA cuz the NBA got involved is that we're not gonna have an NBA player get served on the court too So the the Sacramento security, the best security ever. It was the best security. They should get a raise.

They should get a raise. They should get a raise for that. Yeah, like, there's got to be something. There should be, like, law or rule where there's just certain places you can't serve somebody.

Tyrese in the middle of a concert, he shouldn't get served. Playing the classics. 10 million, there ain't no rule. When I'm trying to get your funeral, he shouldn't get hurt. Playing the classics. 10 million ain't no rule. When I'm trying to get your funeral, I don't care the funeral, I don't care where you at.

Girl, somebody in the chat called you Agent Zero condoms. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got the protective stuff.

Got the protective stuff. Not the straps. You like messing with it. I'd rather just dodge. I mean, it was a little bit more expensive. Some colors you just can't be a part of. Agent no pull. What's the best time to serve someone?

Agent no pull out. That's what the name is. Best time to serve someone during a game for comedic effect. No, no, no. What's funny is I got caught one year. I did get served one year. On TNT, it was TNT or ESPN, one of the two. Walking into the hallway at halftime, you know, you're shaking the fan's hand.

Thank you, let me get an autograph. Boom. Wow. As soon as I got to my chair. Wow. As soon. Let me get autographed. Boom. Wow. As soon as I got to my chair. Wow. As soon as I got to my chair, I had a bunch of... Did you just get served papers on live TV? I was like, you seen that?

That's so messed up. They tried. They tried. They tried. They tried. Some recitals. But I ain't had no hands at the time. Said, nope. That's messed up. I walked right. But I ain't had no hands at the time. Said, no. That's messed up. I walked right away. Well, Rashad, we have a special surprise for you.

Walk away. Y'all want to see Kung Fu Kid? They got in the game. Want to see Kung Fu Kid? You want to see Kung? Well, kick some ass in here. They don't say you can't kick their ass. You got to pick that fish plate off the ground.

You got to be that analog, too. Then you got to go to court and get hit with two. You got to find me again. You got to find me. So how does, I mean, do you have to touch the, do you have to? You got to acknowledge it. You gotta hit with two. You gotta find me again. You gotta find me. Do you have to touch the... You gotta acknowledge it. But if you just look the other way... I don't know you. I don't know them.

I don't know him. Who you looking for? Who is he? It's usually as long as it touches. So they can try to throw it on you. So you get the ass kick. You get the ass kick. They get to start reaching and shit. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

So a question for the couch. Have any of you ever had to leave an event early to avoid some drama? Already answered mine. Okay. Sean, you ever had to dip from something? You seen some ominous comment, had to get up out of there?

Shit, didn't try to go to the club with some niggas. You can't get up out of there early She didn't I go to the club with me Early I do not stay long. I see what's going on here. No metal detector Sure how about yourself? I Don't think so. You're a classy woman. No. No. Well, yeah, I am. But not early, but maybe like as soon as like the game or something was over, just not going back out. Yeah. You got to dip out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like you always say, you got to leave early. Just because some people are ignorant, and you just want to try and avoid situations. You never want to be the last person in the club or at the event. That's where well you can Say all night to the morning You got served during a game. During halftime. And you didn't play. I had to dodge one in my early years.

I mean, that's true. I ain't going to lie. The strip club felt better that day, though. I left Sacramento, went to Houston, went straight to the strip club. That felt good, relaxed. Like, whoo, I won something. That felt good, relaxed. Woo! I won something. Woo! I got off. Woo!

Right? Because it's L.A. child support, too, and I didn't live in L.A., and that's just a whole other problem. This is a whole other problem for child support here. Come and get me in Texas? Sure. Memphis? If there's a team in Memphis, come at me. I put a sign up in Memphis.

But why did you go to Houston? Did y'all have a game there? That was in that game. Yeah. Okay. So I had to dodge to LA, because it's only twice a year, right? I already missed. What strip club was it? I don't even remember.

Oh. Onyx? Ah. Oh. Yeah. That sounds familiar. I'm just saying. That's kind of like the one.

They actually ended up catching me that year, but I had to accept it. It was in funky-ass Detroit. That's why I hate Detroit. I'm not even going to lie. That's why I hate it. Because why couldn't they do the same thing Sacramento did? Because they saw the future, girl. They know that.

I'm sitting on the bus. I'm like, I don't need to play this game. Don't it cost them every time they try to serve you? That's why they was mad. Because it cost them every time they try to get you. It it was mad because it cost them every time they try to get You get cost them. Okay, so you got to pay for that. You got there. Yeah, you got to be on the sweet I know you run out of money, bitch Soon as we pulled up to the parking lot a

Service I can waiting for you. So we asked the chat, do you respect the move from Tyrese? 82% said yes. Okay, we got some savvy thinkers in the chat. 10 million? I got to see that. I want to see that lawsuit.

I want to see what they said. I respect it, too. The fans probably know. How you gonna act like that? How you gonna act like that? And drop the mic. Goddamn. Sorry, y'all. They acting like that.

Goddamn. There you go. Goddamn. How you gonna act like that? You been in the middle of my soul. Y'all gonna have to finish this. Oh my God. So, NBA is asking Rudy Gobert that same question.

They fined him $75,000 for making an inappropriate and unprofessional gesture that questions the integrity of the league and his game officials. Gobert was spotted giving the money gesture after he was called for a loose ball foul with a little over four minutes left in the fourth quarter. We have the video you decide for yourself. 75k though for this that's he was oh my. His fingertips were ashy. Who knows? You know what's crazy, though? That's weak.

It's crazy because it was a foul, right? Yeah. Obviously, it was a foul, but it was leading up to... It was two plays before that, back-to-back, that he was kind of pissed at, and that was the last...

That was the one, like... Yeah, but that's weak. And it's who it is. Yeah. He looked... Scott, it was Scott. He looked right at it like, Scott. This motherfucker. He couldn't wait to do that

shit. Rashad, you point out the Wolves were down 12 points at the time, and as a reminder, Gobert was fined $100,000 for doing the same gesture earlier this season in a game that Scott Foster also officiated. The extender for some, and not for others.

But is that 75K an appropriate fine for Gobert's money gesture? Considering, let me just give you all the details. Got fined 100K earlier in the season, in the regular season, for doing the same thing. But Jamal Murray game two, threw the heat pack, threw the towel, but was also spotted doing the money gesture, did not get fined for that So he did the heat towel and money gesture, and it only cost him $100. Yeah.

For $25,000 extra, I'd rather just throw the heat pack at the ref. At this point. I mean, Rudy, you might as well just have thrown the heat pack at that motherfucker. Just throw an extra $25. Go over there and be like, hand me this heat pack. Motherfucker. I know how much this is going hit bag. Hand me this hit bag. Motherfucker.

I know how much this gonna cost. Hand me this motherfucker real quick. He's like, let me get my money back. Let me get my money back. Is that a little extra $25? A little gesture or a throw? I'm gonna throw. $100 is a lot, though. $100 is a lot for her.

Yeah, but the inconsistency, though. Like, Tommal Murray did a lot. $175 for two money gestures? Tommal Murray did a lot. He did a lot that game. That's what I'm saying. He did a lot that get that's what I said. He did a lot I'm saying the first one the first honey. It was way that was excessive I think because they brought in this whole the whole sports betting and all that stuff that it Looks the way it looks you guys brought this on yourself for it to look this way So Rudy's just pointed out it look kind of fishy man. man somebody getting paid that's a 10k fine 20 at max it the fact that it's

when is the league gonna address the real elephant in the room no matter who you find how you find them if you're protecting the same entity over and over and over again, maybe it's just easier to neutralize the problem. Because this problem is a problem for everyone. Right?

The offensive foul, the push off, he was fine with it until he seen who it actually was. Once he seen who it was, then he did it. Which means every player is thinking the same thing. You're going to keep fining every single player for doing the same gesture to the man. It's the same man, right? Chris Paul, no matter what he do we we think he's getting paid

We don't matter what you do how you disguise it soon as you find somebody for gesturing it on Him to protect him. We think you're hiding something It's over. Yeah, send us ass upstairs. That's a good point. Send them upstairs a really good points I asked giving the poll to the players and asking them do you prefer Scott Fauser to be a referee or not? I feel like what that poll would look like at the end of the...

See who says yes and see who says no. No one's going to say yes. It'll be damn near 95. He don't have to vote for himself. But that lets you know the integrity of the game is going to always be in question if you keep trying to protect him. But not even him, the refs, period.

You're protecting them over the players. So to prioritize the ref that doesn't play, doesn't bring in no tickets, doesn't do anything for the game except for police, it's just like how the government protects the police when they're doing bullshit. Like, all right, at some point, the civilians are saying something that's a problem. We're seeing it. They're doing it to them. What are we going to do?

The fans are complaining, too. The fans ain't really wrong about what they want to see. I want to see a good game, not bad officiating. Did he, when the first time he did, did he get a tech? Yep. Yes. So he didn't get a tech this time because they didn't see it. Yeah, they did because he did, yeah, he covered it up.

So this was the NBA doing it. So the problem is this. So now you're going to find, are you going to find everything you see? If the referees don't catch it. So the problem is this. So now you're going to find everything you see. If the referees don't catch it, if you go back and review film and you see it, now you're going to find the person? They have to.

Well, they got to be consistent. Then they got to be consistent. Because that shit happens all the time. In game two, someone did it. Are you going to go back and find him for it? Are you going to go back and fine people for cussing? Whatever you can fine. You can fine the whole league then. If you played the clip, there was somebody on the bench that did it too. They showed, after they showed Rudy do it,

and went to the bench, you could see the people on the Minnesota bench doing it. Yep, yep, yep. It's like, if the ref don't see it, you can't catch it for them. So we asked the chat, is $75,000 a proper fine for Gobert? 77% said no. Shout out to the chat. You guys are two for two today. And shit, that's good because they want to, you know, there's a lot of money out there.

You know, it's, and that's, ooh. Oh, that gets, that comes out of next year's money. What does? The fines. So that $75,000, he just got fined? Did you say it was $75,000? Yeah, he can write a check right now. Or they'll take it out.

Or they'll take it out. Unless the team want to pay for it, but they'll take it out. Give it to them in francs. Because they can't take it out of this. They can't take off the playoff check because they don't know how much of it is his. Mm-hmm. Oof. Trash.

So, Sha, I see you rocking the LeBron jersey. That's interesting because Celtics and Cavs met in Cleveland for game four Monday night. But before we talk about the action on the court, we got to talk about some action courtside. That has some people out there saying, hmm. LeBron pulled up the game with his wife and Rich Paul as guests of owner Dan Gilbert. He sat courtside and was given a standing ovation from the Cavs crowd. See that gentleman behind him, extremely turnt up moment of his life. According to Brian Windhorst, LeBron and Savannah were back in the Cleveland area to celebrate Mother's Day.

And Rich Paul told the Lakers in advance LeBron would be attending the game. So LeBron is expected to opt out of the final year of his deal and is reportedly looking for a two- to three-year extension with the Purple and Gold. Windhorse did point out LeBron pulled up to a Cavs game 10 years ago when he was with the Heat on an off night for Zydrunas Ogaska's jersey retirement. And Pat Riley wasn't feeling it. LeBron went on to come back to the Cavs a few months later

and not that it matters, but the Cavs do have the 20th pick in the draft this year. But what do you guys think about LeBron going back to a stomping ground

and pulling up to a Cavs playoff game? Going back home? Yeah. He's from Akron, Gil. That shit, he owns all that. That whole state is probably his at this point. I mean...

I mean, he'll grow on his man. Like, he can't go... I'm just saying. He can do whatever he wants. I'm just... I just like the hats Savannah was wearing. I don't really care about all the... He was locked in.

That was a hat or... I thought it was a hat. Can I say again? Yeah. Or what? It was a jacket. She had a jacket on, but I didn't... A jacket.

I thought it was a hat. I just... Oh, look at the... Oh, I remember that championship. Oh, that's fly. Yeah. Sweating with the... Standing on him.

LeBron had some coffee and some wine, turning up. Thought it was a cat. A cat over here. That fan right there is like, you'll see me. It's a hat. Any reason for concern is why I asked you earlier.

That may be a throwback. Come on. We know they don't want to talk about the elephant in the room. But y'all know I do. What's the elephant? They didn, but y'all know I do. Go ahead, Richelle. Well, what's the elephant? They didn't sell the beards at the store,

so I couldn't get the beard. I was going to wear the beard, act like full LeBron. You know, when I don't get my way and I want some attention, I'm going to go to where the camera's at. Oh. Right? I'm going to go to where the camera's at. Cleveland's playing. Let's go to the the camera's at. Cleveland's playing.

Let's go to the Cleveland game. It was Mother's Day. We back home? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, this is a clear sign to L.A. You don't give me what I want, you know where the hell I'm going to go. I think he's applying a little bit of pressure. Hey, if you don't give me what I want You know, I'm gonna go

Go back home. And what does he want? I'm gonna take my son He gonna go back home. Sure. He's gonna go back to home in Ohio. I want Say my son You go ahead you go ahead you go ahead you go ahead you had, wait. You're going to have to... That is definitely... You're going to have to threaten me with going to the Clippers. Give me JJ.

I need JJ in my brownie. I need JJ three years. I got the 20th pick. Wow. I don't trust JB. Far that I could throw him. That would make sense if it was switched around and Cleveland had the 17th pick and Lakers had their 20th.

Lakers got 17? Yeah, Lakers got 17. They're going to get Brownie. So like, you know, if he decided to leave, if I'm in the Lakers, I'm going to sign Brownie any goddamn way. Now what you going to do? Right. Bring your goofy ass back here.

He can wait. I'm saying, Brown can wait in theory. Draft starts before free agency. We know how this is going to pan out. You're going to commit to the 17th pick and I'm going to sign this two-year deal and we're going to make this

shit go. If you do not, it's going to be a situation. You do not, give me what I want. I will go back home and I'll end my career there. Yeah, that's not... I'm just...

To be honest, that's not a threat for me. That's not a threat. Jeannie's saying do it. It's not a threat. It's Cleveland. It's Cleveland ball. It's a definite threat

because what you got after me? If I don't come back, what you got? What you left with? Anthony Day left with purple and gold still. Still the Lakers. Still the Lakers.

You're looking at that rebuilding year the Lakers looked bad. We lost a lot of fans that year. I think it was three years straight we lost a lot of fans. After Kobe went down, he was out of there, retired. The three years passed, we lost a lot of Laker fans, including myself. We don't lose Laker fans. They just don't lose Lakers fans. They just don't come to the game.

They watch it on TV. Money. Money. Speaking of the Lakers, the Lakers are narrowing down their head coaching options to replace Darvin Hamm. According to Shams and Yovan Buha, the initial targets are J.J. Redick, former Hornets and current Pelicans associate head coach James Borrego, and 15-year NBA vet and

current Celtics assistant Sam Cassell. Other potential candidates include Nuggets assistant coach David Adelman, Wolves assistant Mike Inori. So those are the three frontrunners right there? Just initial head coaching targets. Sam and JJ, basically. And Borrego. Whoever that is.

Who is that? He's coached the Hornets. He's been a head coach in the I'm just yeah He coached like a head coach. Yeah, he was a head coach in the National Basketball Association like Lakers Like where did Sam Cassell gonna be giving that shot? He needs to want it. Does he want the shot? I think he does Houston he wanted to use like I think he does. He wanted Houston. He wanted the Houston. Yeah, I think he does.

If you're Sam, you don't want this one. I don't know if he wants the Lakers shot, right? I think he wanted the Houston job, and they gave it to E-May. But that was where he was shooting for that. Yeah, I was shooting for a young guy. Yeah. So, three-time NBA champion as a player, 15 years of assistant coaching experience in the league. So, he's on that Celtics staff.

And J.J. Redick? And another wrinkle I didn't tell you. Coach K has reportedly become an unofficial resource for the Lakers during the hiring process. Helping the team find their next head coach. Who did you say? Coach K. Coach who? Coach K.

Coach K. Okay. With the big K, hey, hey Like hey dot Yeah Make this sit up. You can't make it up which would Seem to indicate obviously giving his relationship with JJ Redick that he may or may not be saying some good things I got it. It's on you, man.

This is you. This is you. This is your moment, Rashad. I'm just saying, man. It all makes sense. When he retired, I threw him out. I just... He gone out of the system. He's done with basketball.

Now he's back. Mm-hmm. Don't taint the purple and gold. We saw him in Vegas last year. He didn't pull up to the show. No, he didn't say hello. No, not. He should not.

He should not. Oh, you still... not oh you still got beat a little beef More they know the 50 cent job rules Damn, I mean, yeah. Yeah, I need you doc. Amen coach paying the caveman. I'm not really mad at doc I just like trolled that coach came different thing for sure. Oh For sure. Well, squirrel. Because I called him. I called him and said I'm willing to put my ego aside and play some defense. What did he say? Oh, good job, blah, blah, blah, you know.

I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what he said. As soon as he got out, I don't give a fuck. That black mother. I don't give a fuck about no Gilbert. Why are you calling me? Basically. No doubt. So we asked to chat who will be the Lakers next. I ain't even a fuck about no Gilbert. Why are you calling me? Basically. No doubt.

So we asked the chat, who will be the Lakers next? I even used my white voice. Hey, how you doing, Coach K? That's the inside voice. I used my inside voice. Who is this? Oh, this is Gilbert Arenas. Washington Wizards.

You start pronouncing words differently. Oh, my gosh. Okay. No, no, no. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. No, no, no.

I will be on time. On my gosh. Okay. No, no, no. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. No, no, no. I will be on time. On time. On time. So we asked the chat, who will be the Lakers head coach?

61% say JJ Redick. 32% say Sam Cassell. Shout out. Like Sam, I Cassell. Mm-hmm. What's on your mind? A lot. It's like, it's like pristine.

Lakers is like pristine. It's like... It's like pristine. It's just like pristine. Who you supposed to get then? Huh? Who out there you gonna get that's pristine? Magic? No.

You gonna go get Phil again? Bring Phil back? Somebody. Somebody else? I know everyone needs a shot, but like... Mark Jackson? Mark. I think Mark would be perfect for it. Avery Johnson, wasn't he a good coach?

Eh, a little small. What's that got to do with him coaching though? He's a little small. Avery Johnson, always positive, how's the family? Good, good, good. A little too happy. A little too happy? A little too happy. He be mad a little bit good good good a little too happy a little too happy a little too happy he need to be mad

a little bit he said a little small like I never like why why is the Laker why is the Laker job like the starter kit for everybody's career

that's not this is supposed to be where we get the we get the the Mayweathers today yep

we don't want Mayweather going 0-0 and 1-0 like that let us get the Mayweathers today. Yep. We don't want Mayweather going 0-0 and 1-0. Let us get the great one. It started after Phil left, and then they got what, Mike Brown was next? He was a head coach, but you know Mike Brown, yeah. Mike did

what, two years in Cleveland? Before that? I'm going to give you the list again. Like one and a half, two years maybe? Because LeBron had... So after Phil was Mike Brown for one season. One season.

One and a half seasons. Then Bernie Bickerstaff, Mike D'Antoni that next year. D'Antoni lasted a year beyond that. Byron Scott for two years. Bernie hadn't really had a job head coaching in a while prior to that. And then who else was after that? So Byron Scott for two years. Vernon hadn't really had a job head coaching in a while prior to that. And then who else was after that? So Byron Scott for two seasons. Byron was probably the most ethical choice for the Lakers.

Through Kobe's last season. That fucked up Kobe. He didn't like that running around. Luke Walton for three seasons, including LeBron's first season. That was it. Dirty Frank, as you like to say. So Luke Walton was the longest tenure of a coach? Last five coaches? Luke and Vogel. How many did Luke do?

Two? Three. He did three seasons because of that shit in Golden State. Yeah, Vogel. What did Vogel do? Well, think about Luke. They gonna give Luke the benefit of the doubt because he was a Laker. Yeah. Right? They give him a chance. Give that shit to Gasol or something. Think that's prestige? No. Give it to Lamar Odom. I mean, at this point. James Worthy?

Yeah. Ain't James Worthy? Big game? So outdated, man. Mm-hmm. That's a problem. I can see why. Fish?

Currently coaching at Crespi Carmelite? I wouldn't be. How was he with the New York Knicks? I mean, it's so hard to judge because they go in and out so often, you don't really give someone a shot at it. Yeah. Yeah, but when's the last time that the Lakers made a splash with, like, a marquee-level coach besides you?

Me neither. None. What about Shaq? What about Shaq? What about Shaq? Why don't you let Shaq go in there and get him? Y'all ain't fucking with Shaq? I don't really care. You ain't gonna fucking with Shaq? Throw it in the big fella, Shaq.

You're in L.A. Shaq can still be in. Shaq can still be in. I don't Shaq. You in L.A. Shaq will serve in. Shaq will serve in. I don't really care about who they hire as a coach because their problem is bigger than the coach. What's the problem, Cheryl? Whoever it is, you're going to get fired as soon as LeBron James is gone. So whatever LeBron contract is, two years, that's your contract.

I'm sorry. What's the problem though, Cheryl? What's the problem though? Before she even numbers. Who's your favorite team? I don't have a favorite team. Oh, then don't talk no liquor business. You talking about liquor business. You got to tell us what the problem is. Ain't no problems here then. What's the problem?

Why are you smacking your lips over there? You're not on the couch. Show me smacking your lips at me. Golden State 13? Oh, yeah. It was. No, it is. It is. Dang.

Is it Oakland's? The Oakland one or the San Francisco one? Either. Okay. The Steph Curry one. Yeah, she's feeling the backlash of... Who would make you happy? What?

You're feeling the backlash of just sitting here and not being able to watch. I know a gentleman who's available. You mad? Secretly? You are so upset. You keep turning on no channel to see your team. A little bit. A little bit.

You see Draymond sitting there talking about the game. A little bit. You keep going up here. A little bit. I just. So, good. You already applied for the Wizards job earlier this season. Did not get it.

You're in on that? I'm not wasting my two years to just be out there just getting cussed out by the media, you. I'm good. We will replace you. We'll be at your crib doing this show. Y'all already know. I'm going to be cussing back. They're going to find me.

Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Well, we will see how it all plays out. Is there anybody out there? There's none. JJ Redick, that'm good. I'm good. Well, we will see how it all goes. Is there anybody out there? There's none. JJ Riddick, that's it. Well, there are some that got... Other coaches that got fired.

Because a lot of it is just recycling. And that's the problem. I agree with you. Sam Mitchell? Toronto? I ain't ever think Sam was a pretty good coach. That's the one from Toronto, right? Yeah.

Yeah, the 81. You're throwing names out now, brother. That's what they be doing. You're right. Do they not know what assistant coach he is? They do. They just don't care. He's the assistant.

I mean, you know what I mean? I got to look at you and practice. I think Sam Cassell could be good. I like Sam. He's a legend, for those that remember. So let's move on to some playoff action. Cavs got some bad news before game four with Donovan Mitchell sidelined with the Cavs' train.

Joining Jared Allen, who's yet to play a game in this series. But what should have been an easy win for the Celtics ended up going down to the wire. So Jason Tatum had another big game, dropping 33 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, and 2 steals. Tatum scored 23 of his 33 in the first half. Jalen Brown continued to dominate the Cavs' defense, finishing with 27 points and 8 rebounds, going 9 for 15 from the field. Darius Garland had his best game of the playoffs so far with 30 points, 7 assists, and 2 steals, snapping his four-game streak with 15 points or less.

So Celtics led by 5 at the half, and the Cavs took a brief lead in the third quarter. Celtics were up by as much as 15 in the fourth, but the Cavs battled back, cutting the deficit to 5 with a little over a minute remaining in the game. But, as they have done all season, as we watch some of these, Jason Tatum highlights. Oof. Oof. Oof.

Doing his thing, getting his buckets back together. It's like they have, ooh. Yeah, lefty, you see it. What the hell? I clowned yesterday. He got me back. I tried to make a joke. He heard it.

Man, they can't get past people. Yeah, but should have smacked him. So, like I said, Cavs cut it to five, but Jalen Brown hit a big three with a little over a minute remaining in the game to put him up eight. And they went on to take a 3-1 lead in the series. The Celtics improved to 4-0 on the road this postseason, but this was their lowest margin of victory so far this playoffs. So Shai, you are wearing Lakers stuff today, so I'm going to just give it to the couch.

It's not Lakers stuff. LeBron, Raymond, James, I apologize. Who is currently a member of the Los Angeles Lakers. Thank you. Do the Celtics look like a championship level team right now? No. Not at all. Not at No. Not at all. Not at all.

Not at all. They look like they looked when they didn't have Przingis. They look like a team that could get to the finals that didn't really deserve to be there, but happened to get there because of injuries on the East and, you know, lucking up a certain amount of times. The way that they're playing is just frustrating. Because now it proves Gil's point back when I was talking about how they move without the ball and they do certain things with their offense with Prezinga's playing,

which gave them a post-presence where they could move without the ball and do other things. But now they're just stagnant on the outside. Everybody's taking a turn. And they're just trying to go one-on-one. And then what Gil just said about them not being able to get by guys, they're making four or five moves trying to get by one defender, which makes it look even worse because now they don't get that shot off. It's off to the races for a mediocre team in Cleveland. They don't have none of their

pieces. They don't look like they're cohesive whatsoever and they're still in the game. They're still competing because that's what happens when you play hard. At least they do play hard. I'm glad Garland finally woke up after all those games just playing like he don't deserve to be an all-star. But the Celtics just in total, they're playing like prima donnas. They're playing like they know they can win and they're supposed to win, but they're playing to the level of the competition which you're never supposed to do. 7-2 this postseason had a ton of big wins. As Gil, you mentioned they beat Jimmy's Butlers in the first round.

Injury play Cav squad in the second round. They got something coming for them out the west. What do you want them to do? Win every game by 50? Dominate. Yeah, that's not enough. Against this squad, you should. This is... Whose NBA is this?

Adamsville. Okay. Right. You know, sometimes just getting that win is just getting that win. You know, there's three... Yeah. Yeah, they're 3-1 right now. You know, Garland.

What's funny is I knew he was going to play very well because Mitchell's not there. Mm-hmm. Right? And, you know, when Mitchell's there, that's what I was saying a couple weeks ago, that he delegates and then he becomes traditional point guard. When that role is gone, this is who you are. Both of you guys do the same thing. Just do it. The fact that you're stopping at 15 means you're consciously doing it.

You're consciously, I'm going're consciously i'm gonna stop here this is enough when i need you you might need to go 110 sometimes you can't keep going to speed limit right you need to get to where you need to get to so the fact that everyone gets to see what he is when donovan's off the court when donovan comes you take the same shots yep there's there's enough for both of you, everybody else, who they just don't get the ball anymore. But did you see how they're playing, though? Niang and Strews are playing like they are go-to guys. Like, confident, Okoro, like, they all out there like,

I'm going to get my 10. And that's where I'm watching the game i'm like since when they start giving these type of guys like freedom to just come down and just shoot whenever but then like you're saying when garland is delegating the play well it's your turn i'm gonna let you go and i'm gonna try to find my shot when i can and that's just between him and Donovan Mitchell. Everybody else is just kind of like, JB's giving them the y'all do what y'all do.

When it should be, man, y'all get it when we give it to you. Everyone has a green light now. Just say that. Everyone has a green light. Do you agree with that? What? Everyone having a green light? No. Not at all.

No. Everyone's in just shoot shots. And you wonder why so many leads being blown because guys who don't supposed to shoot. Bad shots. Two shots. And then at the end of the game when the star player, the one who gets max and super max, is ready to take over, these guys think it's time for them to still keep going. Yeah.

They never had the responsibility of putting the team on their shoulders, but because they've been given the green light to shoot whenever they want, they don't know the concept of time and score. Mm-hmm. Austin Reeves. Lim. Papade Limongan. Just an example. Papaday LeMond getting hit on. Just an example. You're not going to have liquor uniforms on if you throw them.

Just an example. You don't have to use another example. Use an example on your team. LeBron James jersey, okay? Stop saying like... Who's LeBron rolling with? Whose team is it? The Liberty.

No, you're going to have to use one of your teams, man. Somebody on Boston, dog. Don't do that. Okay, they're right. They're right. No, no, no, no, no, no. Even though they play right. They play the right way. So, you know what? Try another team, dog. Even though they play... Okay, you're right. No, even though they... No, no, no, no, no. Even though they play right.

They play the right way. So, you know, try another team, man. I was thinking, I'm like, that's the only moment that comes to mind. Look at that.

He's coming down and doing what he wants. He do what the fuck he wants. I'd be a lot of about that. I'd just be like, you just missed the last five shots and it's the first...

How many shots you think you're supposed to get? Yeah. You're supposed to get five to seven per game. That's it. And the only reason you got the seven is because you hit three or four. But these guys, I'm just...

No, everybody should not have that in mind. But it's this. The better teams, they do understand pecking order. There's still a pecking order. Like Dustin said, Boston don't do that. Denver damn sure don't do that.

Hell no. Right? You're not going to have KCP. He ain't going to just be chucking shots because he opened. Nope. Right? He's going to be like, that ain't a good one. He's going to look at that first quarter.

He's going to look at that time. Oh, it's my turn. Okay. He's going to be like, oh. He, okay, it's my turn. Okay. They're going to look. They're going to be interviewed. Touch the ball. Like, can I shoot this one? You got to go back to like

when we talk about playing the game of basketball and knowing what that means. What is playing the game of basketball? I think that a lot of these guys grew up watching the game of basketball

thinking that what they see is how the game goes and they were never taught how to play the game. So when you are a big man and you're in the game and all you're doing is setting screens and slow rolling, you're thinking that this is all I have to do instead of flashing to the ball, setting an off screen in the corner, doing little things that's helping you affect the game. All I'm seeing is guys running around in freestyle basketball. We called it three game where everybody just moves without the ball. But you only did that when the play broke down or it was,

you know, out of bounds OB where you just like get it in. You guys either run a pick and roll or pin down. But now these guys don't know how to move without the ball. They don't know how to affect the game. They don't know how to flash cut. They don't know how to do any of those things where you look and say, all right, these guys know how to play. And there's only two or three teams that actually know how to do that, which is Denver, because they run an offense where you pass it to Joker,

y'all move without the ball. What was funny, I was looking at, so Conley, right, who drafted Joker and Murray and all that. Tim Conley. Tim. That was my rebounder when I was in Washington. Crazy. So he was my rebounder in Washington. Film breakdown, we used to watch film, look at certain things, right?

And then Calvin Booth, my teammate, right, who's there now. They probably do something that we used to do back then that they probably don't even do anymore. If you want your team to move without the ball, there's called drills. Full court, five on five drills. No dribbling. No dribbles.

Yeah. Right? We're playing four quarters. No dribbling. Full court pressure. You can't dribble. Right? Or it's a turnover.

Turnover. That's the best drill. Now everybody got to move. Pass it. Cut. Flash. Screen it. a turnover. Turnover. That's the best drill. Now everybody got to move. Pass it, cut, flash, miss, set. The only thing they can do, you can bounce past it. That's the dribble. Other than that, you're playing 48 minutes, no dribbling whatsoever. Yep.

And what does that show you? Now it makes everybody move without the ball. It makes you hustle. You can't just pass and sit there. Because now you got it makes everybody move without the ball. It makes you, like, hustle. Yep. Because you can't just pass and sit there now. Because now you've got to get the ball up the court. So now it's a bunch of passing. Now you're playing technically football.

Right. It's energy, too. Yeah, it's energy. But that's what we used to do. Because we played in a Princeton. Yep. So understanding the Princeton, everything backdoor, cutting, flashing, reacting. And very little dribbling.

Dribble, yes. So it's like maybe bring back some of those drills and you get these motherfuckers from... Hey, lazy. It's lazy. Think about how lazy you can be with that, right? If you're not really doing a one-on-one move where that's what you're practicing with the cones. It's like, bro, move without the ball. Like when you was doing that drill, when you could do a drill like that in practice, you knew you were playing with people

who knew how to play the game. Yeah, because what happens now when you look certain players, they constantly have the ball in their hands and it's dribble, dribble, dribble, you're gonna dribble for 20 seconds. Everybody else is just standing. Because it's like, well, he about to go do something with the ball. So I'm going to stand here. And then it's five seconds on the shot clock, and he's like, oh, here. Here. Take this grenade.

Right? So then you have some of those people who probably shouldn't be shooting. They're shooting because it's five seconds on the shot clock. And you just dribbled the ball for 19, 20 seconds. Like, what am I supposed to do with it when I get it with five seconds left on the clock? You know why it's acceptable though? Because this is what we do in the summer. Summer game translates to what you think is acceptable in real time. So you go out there and you go out there in training camp and same type of offense is being set up. You might have a couple sets. I'm not saying that they don't have

no sets. We call it red. Red is around six or seven seconds left on the clock. Red is move out the way I got it. Red. That means don't pass. Red means don't pass. It's like you don't have any other color but red. I'll be

damned if Coach would yell out red and then you pass it. Oh, nah. Worse. Worse. But, you know, I mean, I'm going to accept it because that's the extra shot I get. But don't hear Red did pass, dog.

Okay. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, so these guys, they play this way the whole summer. They train their mind that this is how we're going to play. I'm going to get the ball. I'm going to do my thing, and then I'm going to pass. If I don't got nothing.

We've gotten away from traditional basketball. And when I say traditional, it don't mean old school. It means the foundation of how we really learn how to play the game. It had nothing to do with just coming down and learning to move and being able to dominate your guy one-on-one. Even though we do a lot of comparisons of who's good one-on-one, who's better one-on-one, but if that one-on-one player can't translate to team basketball Bro, you're not a good player

You're a good scorer. You're a good one-on-one, but you're not a good player. You don't know how to play So let's talk a little Jason Tatum had a second straight 30-point game granted against a Injured calf squad. We just got to point that out. But nonetheless, he's balling. Got a lot of media scrutiny previously in this postseason. But will this performance get critics off Tatum's back for a bit, or does it only up the expectations?

I mean, he's averaging, what, 24, 10.5, five assists. What do we What is the argument here? And he's winning like I don't you know the yeah, but now 27 and 11 6 assists That's in this area in this series against the Cavs So overall is after 24 10 and 5 like he's playing very well like it's not his fault They're winning by 20. I'm just sorry. You want the guy to average

score 40, make it a close game. Other than that, he's the one. He ain't going to hit this series. He's not going to hit no game winners. You know what I mean? The game's over. These games are over. Maybe we might get the all NBA player in the second round, but he

dominated the regular season. For people to judge him like hisBA player in the second round, but he dominated the regular season. So for people to judge him like his teammate winning and the game is basically over by the time the fourth quarter starts is ridiculous. Yeah. I think the question is this. Do you think the way that Jason Tatum's playing right now, that he fares a chance against any of those teams on the West

in the way that they're playing defense? Minus the Dallas Mavericks, right? Let's just say. They don't really play D like OKC and Denver and Minnesota. They don't play defense like that. But let's just say those three teams go up against Boston. Any three of those teams play defense against Boston, the way they're playing offense, Boston will get swept.

Boston gets swept. It's hard to tell because you don't know what someone has until you challenge them, right? They're going into the game knowing they're going to win

by 20, right? It is... What does that say about your mentality then? If you're not preparing for these type of guys, they watching the games on the West.

Now, if you over there preparing on the East and you get through with your game, you're going to go over here and see what the competition is like. You're like, they playing 90s basketball over there.

They're fouling. They're pushing. Man, they're doing a bunch of shit. I'm looking at the way they're playing compared to what Tate and them are going through at Cleveland. But I do think a lot of it is based off of, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, who you're playing, right? It's Cleveland.

So Jason Tatum, he can play at 70% and be better than his competition. But I do think he knows he's got to take his game to a whole other level when they get out of this round. Jalen Brown has to do the same thing. But to your point, it shouldn't even be about who you're playing right now. It should be about where you're trying to go and what the competition

is going to be like next. But like, shut up already. They're winning. They're winning. Like, what else do you want him to do? Dominate. Dominate. You want credit for being this guy that we want to give you credit for? Show it.

Show it. Because you're going against who? Knicks or Indiana the next series? Yeah. Which is not just as bad. That's what I'm saying. So it's like for you to walk through it, it's not like we want to be impressed. Right?

This is the playoffs. Regular season, we don't need to be impressed. Playoffs, where's the impressive Jason Tatum? Where's the impressive Jalen Brown? Because you don't got Prezingis, so ain't no excuse to say we're playing total basketball. Like give us some impression that when you get to the place that you were last year, you're going to take it to the house.

What I'm saying is, what are we considering? Dominance, right? When we talk about dominance, a guy who hits 10 straight, right? His team, like what OKC did last night to the Mavs, right? They're down big, the whole thing. Then they come back, hit big shot. That's not going to happen with Jason Tatum right now, right? So what we're looking for is not there.

The series is not bringing it out of them. If Jimmy Butler was here and then I got this guy, he's willing this team, I got to will my team, yeah. But we start the game off, the score is 21-11, 32-15, the game's over with. So from there, putting a foot on someone's throat, they can't breathe anymore. It's over. So let me just sit on the bench.

What time is it again? Hey, Deuce, how you doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we out here. Right? You know, Deuce is out there. He might as well put Deuce in the game at this point. I'll give you an example. Joel Embiid, midseason, before the injury.

Locked in. Dominant. the injury, locked in, dominant. You could see it in his face. Like every game was, I'm out here to get 40. I'm out here to get 15 boards. I'm out here to make sure my matchup is completely dominated. Eyes look at Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. They could be dominant, but they're coasting. They're coasting.

When you could, like, think about Brunson's play. Brunson's play to get them where they are now has been dominant. But the last two games, Indiana showed up. T.J. McConnell giving him some, giving him some, hey, man, it ain't going to be no walking the park. But he's hurt. But he has to be dominant. He does. Jalen Brunson has to be no walking the park. But he's hurt. But he has to be dominant. He does. Daniel Brunson has to be dominant.

So think about it. If he's hurt and he's still bringing the mentality that I have to be dominant for my team, regardless of if the team is sorry or not, I got to have the mentality. So that's what I think everyone's concerned with Jason Tatum is your mentality. We don't see the urgency of I need to dominate. But how do they know he doesn't have that mentality? Because you can see it in his play. No, no.

Let's go last year's NBA Finals. Did they have any urgency playing against Miami that whole series? No. You're talking about Nuggets? Conference Finals. The Nuggets, no, the Finals. When Nuggets played Miami in the finals, did it look like they had any urgency in that series?

You talking about Miami? Yeah. Miami? No, Denver. Denver didn't have... It was dominant. No, no. It was sitting there, Cruz.

Well, they didn't have a sense of urgency. They didn't have no sense of urgency. They're like, we know we're going to win this. It was trash. Yeah, we're going to beat... But Joker still was Joker. He still had to be dominant. Just like how we know we're going to win this. This is trash. Yeah, we're going to beat them. But Joker still was Joker. He still had to be dominant. Just like how we talk about Brunson had to be dominant.

He has to be dominant for them to win, period. Everyone else can lollygag. They can, we got them, we're going to beat them. But Joker, if he doesn't show up, they lose. Same thing with Tatum. If Tatum don't show up, it's going to be cats and dogs screaming outside. What are we doing? How are we... It's like Jason got to show up to be dominant. I agree he has to show up. Like, if Jason Tatum doesn't show up to play, they're not very good.

But to your point, like, how many points did he have last night? 33-11 and five assists. Would you... No Donovan Mitchell, no Jared Allen. Ain't my problem. Right? You look at if you got a healthy Cavs team... Wait, but that's a hell of a performance. No, 100%. But if you got a healthy Cavs team, the performance changes. His effort level has to change.

Well, I'm sure we feel differently about that 33-11 and five. Well, I understand. That's a problem for the Cavs. The man is playing nonchalant basketball scoring 33 on us. For sure. Right, right.

Then what happens if he's really trying? But that's a testament to how good he really is. He can walk through and get 33 and 12. It's like, damn, I mean. The Celtics have played against who they've had to play against. It ain't their fault that Jimmy Butler was out. It's not their fault that Donovan Mitchell, Jared Allen been out for the Cavs. He's not going to have to get tested. They don't have to get

tested until the finals and in their behalf they're going to have the most energy and rest. And playing against a Western Conference team that will likely... They're going to beat themselves up the whole time. So I'll give you a hypothetical then. Hypothetical. They're down

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You're accepting that performance from him? Yeah. When those are regular season numbers. I'll take 27-10 any day. So we've talked about regular season numbers, and then you get to the postseason, and those numbers are supposed to go up. So that's regular Jason Tatum.

And those numbers don't go up and you're down 3-1? About to get up out of here? But I'll also say the opposite, too, that this Celtics squad has gotten a chance to get a lot of bench guys. Yeah, I mean, they're playing dudes we've never even heard of. You know what I mean? But just teams like the Knicksicks are running super tight rotations. Like, they're not facing adversity, but.

They have, that's what I'm saying. They just, they have luxury right now. That's what I said. When Embiid went out, when Giannis went out, it kind of put them in like. Exactly. That part. That part. It's a cakewalk.

Nobody here. We'll take it. Yeah, which is not their fault, but nonetheless, you know, you're looking at a championship level squad They're gonna have to face some some type of adversity and hopefully if he's for conference finals Maybe I get the conversation the conversation is you know, like shell is bullshit to say that he's not doing enough Based on who's in front of him. Like, they're walking through, they're winning games, we shouldn't give a fuck about his numbers or how he's playing. But for me as a hooper, I always have said that when I can see it,

I'm going to call it out, and I see that if they don't fucking tighten up, it's going to be tough for them to think that they're going to walk through and win a championship when they've got other guys on that West Coast that's fighting tooth and nail. So do you think he's just not trying? I don't think it's a him thing more than it is it's a them. It's like Gil was saying, the mentality of the team being able to walk through. And like I said, prima donna. You just know you can do it.

You don't got no challenge. Even I've seen Jalen Brown. I've seen him doing stuff that he didn't even do in regular season. It just seems like, to be honest, which is a good thing too, they're using some of this stuff to work on plays, work on things that they haven't got to use, so they're using it in real time now. So you can see some out-of-bounds plays that they never used,

side out-of-bounds. You can just see them running stuff that plays that they never use, side out of bounds. You can just see them running stuff that they probably wouldn't run, but because of who they're playing, it's like, let me just, let me say, oh, Jalen, you do the pick and roll and you come off and let me see you take some behind the three pick and rolls. Like it seems like they're trying to mix it up. So we might be looking at that happening. Right?

All right, we're going to do a little bit more posting up this series to see what we get out of it. Facts. So it's really hard to judge when they're playing against. You see how OKC playing full court, 94 feet. Everybody, whoever brings the ball up, pick them up. Same with Minnesota. Pick them up, 94 feet.

Make them work. Whole game. You don't see that happening on the East Coast at all. See, but that's the problem, too. You're going to have to do that this series, and. You're going to have to do that this series, and then you're going to have to do that next series, and when you get to Jason Tatum then... You might be tired out.

You might be gassed out. And that's usually what happens. It's like, you know, seed one and three, they beat on each other so bad that the team on the other coast had a cakewalk, and then you're too tired to even fight for seven games. You talked about Jalen Brown. Let's get into him a little bit. He's been the Celtics' leading scorer this post, on the other coast had a cakewalk, and then you're too tired to even fight for seven games. Yeah. You talked about Jalen Brown.

Let's get into him a little bit. He's been the Celtics' leading scorer this postseason. He's averaging 27.7 rebounds, two assists this series. 27 what? 27, seven rebounds and two assists, but shooting 61% from the field, 44% from three. So after a game... He's averaging 27...

This series. Oh, this series. Just against the Cavs, 24.4. Overall, Tatum is at 24.2, so a slight edge in the scoring. But shooting 61% from the field, 44% from three. After game four, Brown had this to say about cooking the Cavs. Me being aggressive, I don't think anybody over there could really guard me. I just get into the paint, take my time, and I feel like that's what I've been doing.

Not just in the playoffs playoffs but all season long you know so I just get to my spots and just do what I do. So what has Jaylen Brown shown you in this series and has he been the Celtics best player so far this postseason? Okay the second question no. He's averaging what 24.4, 4. rebounds one and a half assists probably right yeah when the other one's averaging a double double with six assists no okay um the first question he's showing us that he's sure he had to get that for the second out of the way the first question he's realized that they can't guard me. The only person who's been guarding you this whole time is you settling. You know, you sit in the corner. You waiting for the ball, right?

You bailing little guards out by taking fadeaway jumpers, right? If I have to guard you, if I'm guarding you, you're going to sit there and shoot a bunch of threes and, you know, pull up jumpers. Trust me, bro. Thank you. I can sleep at night. Versus you driving to the lane, giving me the bump,

dunking on me, making layups, and coach over here looking at, do we need a double or a switch? He's realized that you're bigger, more athletic than the people that are going to be guarding you. Stop settling. Stop making it easy for the defense. And by his comments, he realized they can't guard me. I can get to

my spots and keep doing that. It's growth. It's truce and it's knee-ass. That's the nigga you said got a big booty. Big mama. What happened? What'd he say? Actually, what mama. Yeah. What? What happened? Yeah, this ain't real, man. What'd he say?

What'd he say? Actually, what'd he say? What did you say? You got to see it. It's not that it just... But what did you say? He said it. Just know he said it.

I was watching a game and... What happened? One of the Cav players ran across the screen. Who? Which player? George Niang. George Niang, number 20. I thought it was... I don't know where he played.

He just had a main-mum body. What did you say? He was double-cheeked up. Come on, Gil. What did you say? That's what I said. He was double-cheeked up. He got an ass out there. Why? He went to Iowa State. Iowa State, yeah. You got to see it.

It just seems like you got a little worse Hey What I'm saying is if you look at you like oh Yeah, that's what Jay the Brown is Ain't no damn way. If that's the person guarding you, you do not take him out. You pass the ball. Get the fuck out of the game.

Every time. I don't mean to laugh at him, but he survived. He can shoot the shit out of the ball. He can shoot it at all. Even when he tries to get offensive rebounds or defensive rebounds. It's nasty. It's nasty. It's nasty.

I can sit there like, this is a damn shame. That's what I'm saying. And is that who's been guarding Jalen? Him and Max Struess and Garland. Come on, y'all. Them are the only ones that's been guarding. He taking, like, it's like, yeah, it's fool's gold. He can't stay in front of nobody. Like, literally, he just.

Baby mama body. Literally, he shouldn't be able to stay in front of anybody. A baby mama body? Wow. Yeah, you see. All baby mama bodies are not the same, Gil. No. He said baby mama, meaning you just look like you just gave birth.

You should have given birth. You're coming off of the baby face. Y'all still haven't found a picture? You can just go to Google. It's easy. Or you just pull up a highlighter. It'll be right there. Trust me.

Unnecessary. Wow. Unnecessary. I just want them all. But when when they get it when you see it you gonna be like yeah We probably working with about 28% body fat damn And I just give a take Do you know that to be true or you just guess to me? I said it looks like he 16 look a lot 16 28 he said 28. That's over obi. I can't wait to see a fight dress. I'm really the fucking fight You don't need to fight me. He needs to get into you got a long list Eric's knows a lot of dudes out there

Because I say your name don't mean You know my lying on you? He don't like that. They still didn't find that picture? Mm-mm. They working hard. They're not looking for it. They fucking up in the back. There you go, Pa. I'm over here sitting here because she said I wanted to see it. I thought they were actually looking for it.

I'm trying to find it. We can just Google ourselves. Donovan Mitchell's status for Game 5 is still uncertain, and after Game 4, coach JB Bickerstaff said Mitchell is day-to-day. Through the first three games of the series, Spider was averaging 32.6 rebounds, 5 assists, while shooting 52% from the field, 54% from behind the arc. Rashad, what do you think about Donovan Mitchell missing Game 4

with the calf strain, and do you expect to see him at all the rest of the series? I'll say first things first you need to put some respect on Donovan Mitchell's name. Yes, some amongst our Gills Arena crew. First things first. You know have some thoughts. There's a lot of bullshit going on. Brandon will be here later this week I didn't want to. Throughout his whole career like he's been proven to be a very good player in high school He was a five-star player. I think that uh

Just the destinations that he's been at is warranted Little attention to what he's doing and as you can see this is affecting their team because he had the whole goddamn town on his back for the last 20 games And seeing that he had to do a lot of that without Garland during the regular season, you know, they depend on him because he can go get the ball.

He can go get the buckets. You know, he can go get the big shots, you know, putting up big numbers. And I think that when he's out of the game, even though Garland can try to step up, he don't really want that responsibility. I think Donovan Mitchell says, I'm a star, I'm proven, and I want to get into the superstar realm.

And I think that when given the opportunity with a team that wants to really show that they're behind him 100% like that, he's going to move into that stratosphere. But just him not being there right now, it's showing big time that they don't got no star out there and it's affecting them. What are your thoughts on Donovan Mitchell missing game four potentially the rest of this series? It's a calf. We don't know if it's a regular calf or that low calf.

It says calf strain. Oh, so we don't know. Okay, so it's or that low. It's like it says calf strain. Oh, so we don't know Okay, so it's a real calf strain. I mean I'd imagine usually when it's Achilles they usually say low low calf I Mean if he doesn't play it's gonna hurt him obviously, but I mean the series is over next game anyway, so yeah Yeah, but just like shot like you mentioned, again, you know, Brandon had some thoughts, tweeted some things.

We're going to wait for Brandon to come Thursday. But in the meantime, in between time, Donovan Mitchell averaging 28 points, five rebounds, five assists for his playoff career. Career. Career, 54 career playoff games. Why does he not get the respect on that level? I think it's a size thing.

I think, you know, Gil alludes to it a lot. When you look at the size of a player and the history of certain players being given and granted certain status over other players, I always say this. Comparing him and Jason Tatum, how tall is Jason Tatum?

6'10"? And Donovan Mitchell is 6'3". All right. How would Jason Tatum look at 6'10"? Mm-hmm. All right, and Donovan Mitchell is 6'3"? Mm-hmm. All right, how would Jason Tatum look at 6'3"? We don't know. He would look regular as fuck, right? Now, how would Donovan Mitchell look at 6'10"?

We don't know. With that skill set. I would imagine very dominant. Superman, right? That's like D. Wade at 6'8". That's like looking at Allen Iverson at 6'6". Like things that we were like, yo, we are so grateful that God didn't give these guys this size.

But then you look at these guys with the bigger sizes, you say, well, what would they look like if smaller? The skill set is already capped because of the height. You take the height down and you say, well, if I put your skill next to his skill of the same size, then what are we looking at? Are you better than him? Or is it because you're taller than him?

Because you can get to your spots. You can shoot over guys. You can create mismatches. Donovan Mitchell is being dominant at that size, to me, warrants attention and warrants some type of praise. The same as D. Wade. D. Wade would be able to do that shit at 6'3". Gill, 6'4", point guard.

Imagine Gill at 6'7". He can't imagine that. Well, we get to see it now, the high school version of a 6'7". Come on. And I'm already looking at him as a sophomore like, what is that?

That's Gil at 6'7", 6'8"? Come on, man. Elijah's arena. Come on, man. I'm already making my preparations. These are the type of comparisons I like to make

when it comes down to giving people their flowers and like, all right, we're so grateful that he ain't this size because we always consider size counts. Jalen Brunson. Say Jalen Brunson at that size, we can't really, we're so grateful that he ain't this size because we always consider size counts. Jalen Brunson.

Say Jalen Brunson at that size, we can't really. We can't rock because it's never happened where a guy 6'1 can da-da-da-da-da give him 6'5". What are we talking about? 6'5", he wouldn't be Jalen Brunson? He would be different. We don't know. We do know because we can use our imaginations.

Yeah, but he learned how to be that dominant with his shot because he was the smallest guy on the court. So he had to develop that. Now if he was the biggest guy on the court, his game would be different. Just like Anthony Davis and Melo. They all sprouted up. They were both point guards, so they had to sprout up. Now what if they stayed point guards?

They would have had more skill. But they would have been Limited because of their size But as I said, but the skill will be different So no this girl will be saying like so said Jalen Brunson skill matches his size now You you you make him taller and he didn't he wasn't the smallest dude on the court the whole time Then we don't know what his game would be like We know that his game now would be in a bigger body. That's the only thing we do know.

The game that he has now would be in a bigger body. Same with Melo and them, like, oh, we put Melo's game at 6'2", in a 6'8 guy's body. It's like, damn, damn, that's what it looks like. It's a small guy doing small shit in a bigger guy's body. It'd probably be James Harden. Which is good. Which is not bad.

It's not bad at all. I had to think about it. You know what I'm saying? Those hypotheticals you got to look at, like, damn, man, Donovan Mitchell deserves some type of credit because he's doing a lot. Somebody in the chat said,

if Wimby was 6'5", he'd be a waiter in Paris. Damn. Damn. But I want to talk about Tatum. It's something that he said after the Celtics game 2 loss. He had some interesting comments on the narrative that the Celtics are a super team. And while we wait for that, in the meantime, in between time,

go ahead and download the Underdog Fantasy Abuse promo video. That's the narrative that you might see on TV. The idea that we have a super team. It's twofold, right? We didn't have a coach of the year. We didn't have an MVP. We only had two all-stars. So they say we're a super team,

but, you know, we didn't get rewarded like we are. So when you hear Tatum say that, and again, this is, oh, after the Celtics' game two loss to the Cavs. Okay, what's the super team? Clippers. Okay. And they don't have none of those?

That's a super, super team. Would you call the Clippers a super? This Clippers roster this year was a super team. Okay. Is the Lakers considered a super team? No, LeBron is. So if Lakers is not a super team, how can Celtics be a super team? Exactly.

Is Milwaukee Bucks a super team? Nope. No. Healthy Giannis and Dan? Two superstars. Two superstars. That's it. You say upper echelon superstars.

So same thing with Mavericks. They're not a super team. Just two good players. Right? When you think about Boston, you know, you're talking about Porzingis was an all-star win. Long time ago, right? The idea. Two all-defensive players in Derek White and Drew Holiday.

They did it themselves, right? They did it there, right? A super team is something that is brought together. It's assembled, yeah. Right? It's assembled. Like, these guys were drafted there. Tandem and Brown,

but you're talking about bringing in a Drew Hollister. Those are the two only All-Stars. The other guys are role players now, so that's not a... But a super team. Was Miami a super team? Because Kyle Lowry was an All-Star at some point in his career.

You know, Kevin Love was an All-Star fucking 10 years ago, so we got three All-Stars. Come on, that's not... That would make four, because it was an All-Star fucking ten years ago. So we got three All-Stars. Come on, that's not... That would make four. It was Kevin, Kyle, Jimmy, and Bam. Bam. Woo!

That's the best Super Team. They got four. And then two of them was first ballot All-Famers. Probably going to be some All-Famers over there. So that was the greatest. Miami wasn't. Like, no. You have to be a superstar while you're playing in your prime.

You got to get traded there or you got to sign there as a free agent. Those guys are there, just like Golden State wasn't a super team. Even when Kevin Durant got there. We can say they were a super team because they got Kevin Durant, but that's... A 73-win team adding Kevin Durant to that roster, that's a super duper. Okay, so Chicago Bulls is a super team. Yeah, for sure. So you're saying that based on the record, though?

It shouldn't be based on the record. The team was just playing very well that season. Okay, but if I have a team that wins 73 games and I add Kevin Wayne Durant to that roster. It doesn't make good. Because by the measures of what he's saying, the team is, is bringing superstars in to assemble this. They only brought one guy in. Yeah, but that one guy they brought in. So Phoenix is a free agent.

It wasn't a trade. I understand. It wasn't a trade. How many players can you bring in for a super team? But he chose to go there, to Golden State. They didn't need him. So it wasn't a super team. They didn't need him, but he chose to go there.

So that makes him a super team. So when you talk about super, what is the point? If you're already good and you gain one player, so one player can make you a super team? If that player is a former MVP and one of the most dominant players in the league, I think it helps the argument. It absolutely helps the argument.

When LeBron went to Miami, to me, that made them a super team. With Chris Bosh, Dewayne Wade. Yeah, because two of them went there. Yeah. Okay. What about KG and Ray Allen? That's a super team. KG and Ray Allen was a super team.

That was a super team, right? Yeah, that was a creative super team when Kobe, so when Karl Malone, that crew that lost Gary Payton went over there, that was a super team. So before that, They just weren't

calling them super teams. Yeah. Laker wasn't a super team then. Before that. Yeah. So their first three championships,

that wasn't a super team. San Antonio Spurs was never a super team. Couldn't be. So they were never a super team. They were justurs was never a super team. Couldn't be. So they were never a super team. They were just a good-ass team

because they never added anybody. But I agree with your point, Even though they had three all-stars. When you say whoever that player or those players are,

to me, they have to be like killing it in their prime. Mm-hmm. And Kevin Durant going to Golden State, to me,

he was in his prime. Okay. And they proceeded to win two chips with that crew. So Barkley tried to go to Houston Houston. There was a super team, right? Yes had to be had to be because you already had Clyde Drexler in his all-star and you had yeah I mean probably in college It wasn't considered trying to create that LeBron made the super team when it was way before. Oh, for sure it was before.

And this is the Bulls. When they lost Horace Grant and they brung in fucking Dennis Rodman. Yes. People don't realize, you know, Dennis Rodman made the... I don't know if he was defensive. He probably was defensive player of the year. Off the bench? Off the bench.

How about that? How the fuck you make defensive player of the year off the bench? Locking up. Off the bench. So him coming over there to the Bulls, that's super team. Yeah, definitely super team. That becomes a super team. Yeah, for sure.

Well, it's like when you look on the WNBA side, people want to say Candice going to the Aces two years ago now? Two years ago? That they became a super team. Now, that one I don't agree with only because Candice isn't in her prime. And Candice didn't

to me, Candice didn't really play that much whether she was injured or whatever. So, and the aces, the pieces they already had, they were already a good team. And I don't call them a super team because those players were already there.

Would you call the Liberty a super team? Yeah. So Liberty's a super team. Yeah. I mean, you've got JJ going, Sloot going, Stewie going, hell yeah, they're a super team. Yeah, for sure. Okay, at least we got a little definition. We're getting it. So then Jason Tatum's saying it.

So Jason Tatum is correct. Because you didn't get stars. You got roles. He's saying that people. He said they're not a super team? He's saying that people's saying that they were a super team. They're not getting rewarded. They're not getting rewarded, but I don't think.

They're not a super team. Were we calling them? I don't think they were. Were players, were we calling them? I think it's dominant. I don't think They're not a super what we call them. I don't think we're players what we call I think it's dominant I wasn't calling them as dominant as this Celtics squad was and we've talked about this Previously with the MVP discussion and all those things Tatum finishing sixth in MVP voting I'm sure it's perceived to him as a slap in the face for Minnesota is this Minnesota's a more super team game

Because they already had two stars to all NBA players inBA players in their prime, and then them getting Rudy Goldberg, who's defensive player, all-star, all-NBA. That's a super team. So, would you call Phoenix a super team? Yeah. Absolutely. Because they brought in two... On paper, for sure. They had two superstars

and then they added Bradley Bill. Even though he got hurt, there's still Bradley Bill. Yeah. Let's keep this thing moving. Thank you. More playoff talk. Mavs were riding high entering game four with a chance to take a commanding 3-1 series lead over the Thunder,

but FGA, SGA showed off its mid-range mastery and the top seed in the West proved that even though they're young, they're still ready to do some. So the Thunder were down 11 at the break, looked like they were about to take their third straight loss in the series, but rallied in the fourth quarter behind another big game from their franchise player. SGA got it done on both sides of the floor, finishing with 34 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks. 14 for 27 from the field, 6 for 6 from the line.

Chet Holmgren added 18 points, 9 rebounds, and 4 blocks. Lou Dort had his highest scoring game this postseason with 17 points and 8 rebounds. So Luka did have his fifth career playoff triple-double, but was 6 for 20 from the field, 2 for 9 from 3. He also had 7 of the Mavs' 13 turnovers. Kyrie struggled to get it going offensively as well, finishing with 9 points and 9 assists, going 4 for 11 from the field. P.J. Washington led the Mavs in scoring with 21 points,

but was 7 for 19 from the field, but he was 5 for 11 from the field. P.J. Washington led the Mavs in scoring with 21 points but was seven for 19 from the field, but he was five for 11 from three. So Thunder went on a 20-10 run to end the game. With plays like this, they were coming up with that huge three to help extend their lead. And the Mavs, I mean, may have double dribbled on that one,

but they did not call it. Luka had a chance to tie the game with ten seconds left, missed the first of two free throws. Chet Holmgren proceeded to knock down his free throws to put the Mavs back up three, and that shit put the game out of reach, knocking down two free throws to put the Thunder up four. Mavs shot 52% from the line in the game. Thunder shot 38% from the field, which is their lowest total in a win this season, but

they were 23 for 24 from the line. And now they head back home with the series tied 2-2. I mean, we talked about this Thunder squad, the youth, would they be able to deliver in the postseason? What do we learn about this young Thunder squad in game four? They're smarter than the Mavs. And what I mean by smarter than the Mavs is they are playing to their strengths, right?

SGA, you're not forcing SGA to take shots that he doesn't want to take. He's not going out there playing desperation basketball. He's not settling for nothing. He is a mid-range layup guy and he's proving your analytics is wrong the analytics Play is helping him because you were so busy trying to guard her three You don't even see a threat He's not playing inside out. He's playing inside inside. I'm just

going to keep attacking. You're so used to letting me blow by you to throw it to the three point line. No, I'm just going to keep making layups. I'm going to keep going floaters. You can't stop me. No. But most of the people who shoot threes, they stop themselves anyway. Right? So, Luca, you're the biggest dude on

the court at the guard position. How are you not figuring it out yet? When you play the mid-range game and the layup game, they can't guard you at all. You are sitting here taking step back hard threes. Okay, some of them go in. But for the most of the night, they're not. Two for nine from behind the arc in this game. I'm just kidding.

Nine for 20. What was he? Six for 20. Six for 20. That means nine of the 20 shots is long-ass three-pointers. Difficult three, step back with your move. Same move. Bop, bop.

Bop, bop, bop. Right? They want you to do that. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like that. When a bad shooter makes a three, we know one thing he's going to do. Keep shooting them.

Good. Right there. Yeah. Good. Please shoot it. For the defense, it's like, oh, he's going to keep shooting for the offense? Like, no, no, no, no, no more.

But not just shoot it, but make it. Yeah. Like, shoot it and make it. So the fact that they're just, like... That's beneficial at times, though, when a bad shooter blocks it. Oh, okay. Yeah, when you shoot it and make it so the fact that they're just that like That's beneficial at times over when a bad shooter You hot boy keep going I know it says one foot one foot 12, but you sure baby you made one And that's and that's what it is with. Okay. See they're they're playing to their game, you know, same thing with Jalen, right? They're attacking the basket. You're a small team

They're not settling. They're not gonna sit there and play chuck them threes with you all night SGA 10 for 14 from the mini in the game Which a lot of those were tough shots. I'm gonna be like no they're not I'm 6 7. They're not tough, but you don't play defense My when I turn and shoot you're not tough. You don't play defense. When I turn and shoot, you're not there. I don't see you. I'll say contested, maybe not tough, but it wasn't just like I'm just getting open looks. What is Luka from the mid-range? 78%, 80% himself?

When he does take them, when he do take them, he be sitting there doing all this and bumping. It looks amazing. Try that. Try that the whole game. try not to shoot a three you might have 50. I think it's different for Luka this time around I think that uh OKC's defensive concept is to make him take tough twos I think Dort is forcing cutting off those driving lanes they're not just contested shots. They're, I'm under you. I'm underneath you.

And Luka don't like to feel uncomfortable when he's taking those tough twos. He would rather take a tougher three than a tough two. So when you look at the game and how they're defending him, he gets into his soft spot. He's used to that step back where he can get space. He's not getting that space. Kyrie either.

Kyrie's used to getting that space. They're either. Kyrie used to get in that space. They both not getting the spaces they want when they get inside. So if you watch the game last night, you see they threw more lobs than they did in the last two games, this last game. Because Derrick Lively is being, you know, left alone because they're helping up. We call it don't help up the line.

So they're helping up the line, gives the lob an opportunity. But also what that does for OKC's advantage is it takes Kyrie and Luka out of their rhythm because they're looking for this lob now. That rhythm's not there down the line, and that's why they struggle. Kyrie missed like four or five chip shots where it's like, God damn, I'm usually making these,

but I ain't been shooting them all game. Nine points, nine rebounds. I had him on the over 20 points. Tripping them all game. Nine points, nine rebounds. I had him on over 20 points. Tripping. Tripping. Nine points, Kyrie. In a game that you're supposed to go up 3-1, now they got this momentum and they got this confidence.

They think that they got y'all number now. Lou Dort out there like, yeah, we got them. Right where we want them. Jalen Williams. Man, I'm actually feeling like a defender. SGA definitely out there like, yeah, we got them, right where we want them. Jalen Williams. Man, I'm actually feeling like a defender. SGA definitely out there like, yeah, guys, we got a big seven-footer out here that really can block some shots. We ain't tripping.

Let's keep putting the pressure on them. It's different out there. That's what I see when I look at OKC is just the confidence that they're playing with because they're like, you know, everybody is like Dallas is going to win the series. But especially the game last night where you had an opportunity to go up 3-1 and you didn't make that happen. I'm not going to say the game.

The game wasn't boring for those first two quarters, but it was just looking like, all right, the Mavs are about to cruise. Yeah, for sure. What's funny is they were two threes away from the game being over. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Those two shots where you're like, ah.

Yeah. Gas out. They'll take them, step back, like, no, not that one. Not that one. Not that one. Not that one. That's not going in, man. Right?

And then they come down, hit a two. Boom, you come down, get ready to do a step back, step back three. That missed. Now they're back in. Now they're down eight. Yep. Yeah. Right?

Now they're down eight. Now they still got some hope. You come down there, hit a shot. You go up ten. They come down and hit a shot up eight. Then you take two back-to-back threes. They come down and hit a two. Now it's six.

You know what I mean? That's all that happened. They're just chipping away. You scored 15 points in the third I Think you only had like a little 20 something in the in the in the fourth and 27 in the fourth 27 in the four But they're they momentum they realize we're not gonna say we're not gonna settle the only threes We're gonna take is gonna be wide open. Yeah Yeah, like that's what said. Okay OKC is not taking those tough threes. No.

I'm by myself in this corner, or this was the play, and I got a flare, and I'm wide open. Other than that, we're just going to keep attacking. As a good coach, one thing you say to your players is, you don't eat an elephant with one bite. You scoop it down. One scoop at a time. You don't what? You don't eat an elephant with one bite. Scoop it down. One scoop at a time. You don't what?

You don't eat an elephant with one bite. Oh, okay. Scoop them up, right? Chip shots. Let's not do home runs, let's do singles. Single, single, single, single. We'll chip away at the end. In their post-game press conference,

with the whole team sitting there with OKC, they said, man, we've been down like this before. We've been down. We've been down 20 before. We knew to just stick together, chip away. So you look at how you can find a way to lose the game. Dallas found

a way to lose the game. Like you said, you're two threes away from putting the game away. And then there's a difference when you're training when you shoot the ball the right way it's supposed to go in when you do the move the right way it's supposed to go in when you cheat the game clank clank clank so you're trying to be too pretty with that now that's off you're shooting with three people on you that's off make the right play play the game the right way and i think that's what's happening're shooting with three people on you. That's off. Make the right play. Play the game the right way.

And I think that's what's happening with Dallas. You know, the arrogance is getting to them where they think that they can just do it and they can just not follow through. It's just such, it's just such, like when someone asked me, like I remember Rip, right? Rip, someone told me a story that said Rip was like three for 12. And somebody's like, man, you know, I had a bad shooting night. He's like, hell no, I had a good shooting night. I said, what do you mean? He was like, he said, you know, I had that layup, right, that layup that was rolling

in, it was getting ready to go in, go 10. That's bucket. Bucket. He said, I got to my spot, hit the shot, rolled in and came out. That's a bucket. Guaranteed. I'm shooting 87% from the free throw. Missed the free throw I normally don't miss.

That's a bucket. That shot clock where I didn't let it go off at the end and stayed in my hand a little bit longer, that was a bucket. He said, so I only really missed three shots. Yep. So should I have 20? Easy. And that was his mindset. I had 20.

And that's really, to really be self-conscious of your game, that's how you have to think. Absolutely. Right? You have to know when, this was a great pull-up. It didn't go in. Cool. Yeah. I did a horrible, you know, and took a bad shot, and it went in.

That's still a bad shot. Facts. Right? That doesn't mean you're on fire to take another three. Yep. Right? That was just a horrible shot that just went in. It happened to go in.

It happens, right? You know, you don't... Yeah. Are you taking your shots that you normally make? If you go one for 12, but those are your shots, you had a good game. You look at Luka's game, too. He had a lot of on-force turnovers where he got in the middle of the lane and trying to make the extra pass to the guy who may have been open or not,

but you're forcing it. And those are plays that he usually makes. But those alleys ain't open no more because they're shutting that off we know what you want to do it's the playoffs right so it's like how do you segment your game to a point where everything we're saying the little chip shots that you know you're gonna make the little step back that you know you usually make do you have that confidence does dallas really go into this next game knowing that we had an off game? Or they really got our number?

Do we need to change something? Or do we need to sharpen our tools? Which one is it? Because, you know, you got Tim Hardaway out there. You got PJ's playing well. I like the way PJ's playing. He's the only one. I mean, he's, you know, everyone's playing. He's playing like he like that Ren is doing. Yeah, he's, you know, everyone's playing. He's playing like he...

Like that Ren is doing. Yeah, he won that minor. I like the way he's playing. But it could be both. Like there's stuff you need to sharpen, but OKC could have your number, too. Yeah. And we'll see. It's going to be that first...

You know, what's funny is, it could be a blowout is It could be a blowout They give me a blowout if okay see come out and hit them hard. Yeah, would the wait Luca Unfortunately cries office and defensively. Yeah, right. He's looking for calls on either side He wanted a double dribble you like he wants he wants... You might as well get that motherfucker whistled, too. For real. Just whistled on you. You know, there's just some players like that. Blow it, blow it. They're like, ah, damn, just get a whistle.

You want to be a referee or you want to be a basketball player? It's real bad, bro. Every play, too. Oh, my gosh. So, all you do is basically be... If you can hit them really hard, Luka missed three or four shots in that first quarter, that game's over.

Yes. He mentally doesn't come back when he goes off. So getting him mad versus him getting frustrated are two different things. Getting him mad, that's your ass. Frustration, he loses it. He thinks

about it offensively and defensively. So them first 12 minutes are going to be very important for OKC. If they can get out and get an 8-, nine-point lead, you can probably blow the game away, and all you do is just wrap their point and focus on Kyrie. Yeah, yeah. I'll start doubling that motherfucker because you don't know what he got pulled.

He'll pull out some shit. No, and they're OKC, right? Yeah, they are. So if you think about the crowd, the reason why Luka and them had, you know, pretty much cruised through the first half into the third quarter, because they're at home. They're at home crowd. They fed off the energy.

Now you look at OKC, like you said, if they get an early lead and that crowd stays into the game, Luke and I getting them calls, like I said, they've been beating them up the whole series. So I don't think that should change. Do all the shit you've been doing. if he cries gets a tech and he takes him out of the game really everything they go saying it's out of there for them like kairi doesn't have enough by himself to bring them back

and once they're down they haven't proven to be able to be a comeback team they can they can come to a 10 point deficit and then they're just out of gas at that point, but anything else is there for them. We talk about this game for them essentially tricking off the game, 12 for 23 from the free throw line. I'm sure you said earlier, but what I want to ask you guys is how much

will tricking off a crucial playoff game like this at home impact the Mavs moving forward? Are you able as players to shake it off and worry about the next game? Is there going to be a hangover? In that next one, they may end up going down 3-2, but still got two games left, coming back home to Dallas for game six. So we've seen

that kind of throughout the playoffs where we thought, looking at the Nuggets as an example, like, oh, it's over. But how much do you think it's going to impact them? I don't think it'll impact them to a point where they're like, damn, we can't win on the road. But, I mean, 12 for 23 and at home from the free throw line is horrible.

But I think this is where when you have a player like, I'm going to say like a Kyrie, right, and you're going on the road, just his leadership alone, you've got to forget about that, and you've just got to go on the road and try to get that win back. Because I feel like they, yes, OKC, I do think they have their number a little bit, but OKC just flat out came and took that game from them. And I think that's where Dallas, they've got to look at what they did wrong,

where they had bad turnoversovers or the free throw line. That just can't happen. No, and at home, no. Unacceptable. Who shot him? So Luka had a chance to tie the game. I remember that. I knew he was going to miss that.

He was missing that for sure. So then they were down three, but they didn't have any timeouts either late in the game. But P.J. Washington came up when they were down three. He missed one too. Missed the first one, but made the second one. What I'm saying is, who shot the most of those free throws? We're saying, you know, how many shots? 23?

Yeah, how many shots did Luka take? Luka was four for six from the line. P.J. Washington was two for four. Derrick Jones was two for four. Gaffer was two for four. Kyrie was one for two. And Lively was one for three in the game. So it spread around wow everybody was spread around 50 for everybody now i mean nasty nasty but luke could come into the line with that opportunity to make his two and tie it

and then you got a red shirt rookie and chad holmgren on the road okay first of all luca shoots only 74%, if that. From free throw? You know how Skip Bayless is talking about, how does LeBron James shoot great from the three-point line and bad from the free throw line? Same way Luka does. But it happens.

It happens. It happens. In crunch time. I understand. What I'm saying is it happens. Just some players that that distance just might be too close for them for sure right this is something that like to be a great free throw shooter you have to have developed a touch at a young age especially if you're going to be

taller right so i'm pretty sure when luca was six foot to six five he probably was a great free throw shooter right my son is going through that right now. 80-some percent last year, 70-some percent this year. Hands got bigger, he got taller. Big adjustment. And during that adjustment period of him growing, he wasn't shooting thousands of free throws to match it. Right?

You can tell my Jokic. Jokic has always been big his whole life. Great free throw shooter. Yeah, I don't mean great free throw shooter. And B, these guys have, they've shot it. Like when you have those real, those guys who have them growth spurts and they don't, hands get bigger,

it changes form. How much is that, the reps versus the mental aspect of it? I think it's more mental. It's mental, it's reps, it's more mental. It's mental, it's reps, it's... Listen, they're free throws. It's free. It's easier for us because we've done it since we were...

No, because I hear what you're saying, but that's got to be a... Just getting in the gym and just shooting free repetition. But I think it does get to a point where, especially in playoffs, where you mentally get in your head like, damn. I had free to lie. Yeah, right? Like, I just missed two big ones the other night. Well, because it's hard to practice with shit on the line, right? And practice isn't in college college we had to run.

You know, coach would give you the opportunity, y'all going to run a six, right, come shoot. And everybody on that line would be like, please don't call my name, coach, please don't call my name. It had already fucked up, right? It's already messed up, right? But then there's that one guy like, please, coach, call my name. I know you're going to call me.

I know you're not going to call because you know I'm going to hit these, right? It's a mental thing. I remember working out with Marcus Banks. We was the big three, right? He could hit 20 in a row twos. And I'm like, all right, it's time to take one step back. That boy could not hit the side of the barn taking one step back to the three-point line. One step in, I'm like, bro, how you making 10 in a row, too?

He's like, I'm just used to it. And it was like a phobia that you take that step back, and it's like, I don't even know what this is. I don't know where I'm at. Think about the free throw line. You don't get to practice with that fear of missing, that fear of, man, there's no time on the clock. Everybody cheering against you.

You don't get to simulate that. Right? So Luka got, hey, it's nut cutting time right now. If this was the one thing that was going to determine whether you were a Hall of Fame player or not, you making both of these and saying, I built like that, are you going to make them? Put Mike on the free throw line. Is he making them shits?

You know, depth perception is a thing, too. Eyes closed. Depth perception is a thing, too, right? You know, when you're practicing in, right? I think this is what happens with Ben Simmons and a lot of bad free throw shooters. In practice, there's a wall, right? The space is small so they can see it.

When you're in the arena, that distance looks forever. Yeah. Sometimes, like, because, you know, bad free throw shooters shoot the most free throws in practice. Right? They're working on it. They damn near look like everybody. When you go and look at the chart, the bad free throw shooters look like everybody else, 85%, 87%. And then when they get into the game, the bad free throw shooters look like everybody else. 85%, 87%, and then when they get into

the game, it's different. Sometimes those type of guys need to sit in the arena itself and shoot their free throws in the arena so they can get the feel of how this distances versus that just backdrop shooting against the... I want to ask

you this, but before I ask you this, I want to take accountability for my own self because I don't want to make, but before I ask you this, I want to take accountability for my own self because I don't want to make it seem like I'm attacking you. I shot 74% from the free throw line. I knew I was supposed to be a better free throw shooter, at least 80%, 90%, because it never matched up with my shooting ability. But it was not more of a mental thing,

more than it was finding a rhythm and a routine at the free throw line, right? I was always changing my routine, and I was trying to figure out, all right, I can make 20 in a row here, then I might miss, and I'm like, damn, I need to change this routine. So when you missed the free throw, was something going through your mind at the free throw line? What were you shooting at the percentage?

Were you like 80-something percent? 80-something percent, yeah. So you knew you were going to make these free throws. But sometimes that crowd kicks in. Sometimes you're overthinking. It's like, I know I got to make these. We was at home. We up one.

I just hit the three to get us to overtime. So we're down three. We had to make a comeback. Two, one, hit it. Put my arms up. Yeah. By the whoop they ass, we had to make a comeback. Two, one, hit it, put my arms up, yeah, going about to whoop their ass, they shoulda let us back. Fritos got there. Clanked them.

Even when I watched it back, like, what the fuck was I aiming at? That is just one of those things. Was it a hard break? Huh? Was it a hard one? Break. Boom.

And you were a back rim guy. Your shit back rimming down. I'm sitting there like, damn. Like, I sat in the gym and shot 1,000 free throws after. But the season's over with. I went back in there. No, hell no. No way.

Hell no. Did they break that motherfucker? Hell no. And then I thought about Nick Anderson because, you know, that was my team growing up. And I was like, yeah, I need to go see this. I got to make sure this ain't going to hump me moving forward. So we've got the Gills Arena Crews free throw percentages for a career. Cheryl, you were leading with 82.5%.

Gil, you're at 80.3%. Brandon, 79.6%. Lexi is 78%. Career free throw shooter, Norris, 74.3%. Rashad, you are at 74.1%. They put mine on there. I was 73%. I don't know how in college.

Okay, I wasn't last. What was Kenyon? Kenyon was last. This was 76. They were afraid to read Kenyon. Kenyon, 62.9%. Woo! And his career.

He impacted me. Don't be afraid to read that, Kenyon. Don't be scared. We're battling you. We're battling your ass. I know. It's fouling you. We're fouling your ass. I know. It's funny. It reminded me of when you said 62.

Listen, I had to go to the halfway house, right? In the halfway house. So I had to go to jail for the weekend. So I had to go to jail for the weekend, little weekenders. So they had like the little yard, had a rim. It was like a fucking handball court, right? So there was one of them dudes there, right? Couldn't put his hands down, right?

Oh, wow. And he's shooting hoops, right? Now, you know, I'm like, oh shit, but okay. And you know how you look at it, like, I don't know how he gonna shoot this, right? And he grabbed the ball, boom! And that's how it hit, too. Like, he was just doing, like, he didn't shoot it.

It just hit all backboard. He was passing it to the backboard. Like, he was passing it to the backboard. How did he make it? Boom! Caught it back. And I was like, oh, shit, right? And I don't know if he sensed that I was looking.

Oh, wow. And he turned around real fast. Oh, you're talking about somebody hitting the floor. What? Drop to he says that I was looking oh wow and he turned around real fast Are you talking about somebody hitting the floor? Like I didn't want to look up That's shit so hard. Did you say that? No. Because it's like,

because I'm in the room, then it's like the hallway, and then the next glass is there. So it was like, so he can't hear me. It's just the fact that the way it sounded, like you can hear that.

And he turned around, I just dropped. Yeah, I'm going to get your cone bread after this. Let me do some push-ups and sit-ups because I ain't getting back up like that. But, like, 62% sounded like that. Yeah. Boom!

Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about Kyrie a little bit before we proceed. So, Kyrie, game one had 20 points. Game two, nine points. Game three, 22 points. Game four, nine points. Game three, 22 points. Game four, nine points. Damn.

Took the fourth most shots on the squad in game four behind Luca, PJ Washington, and Derrick Jones. So when an elite scorer isn't the number one option on the team, how tough is it knowing when to defer and when to take over in certain moments of the game?

I'm not going to really pay too much attention to the nine points. moments of the game. I'm not going to really pay too much attention to the nine points. The reason is this. They were up by so much, and he was cruising. He was cruising. They were up nine. Like, you know, he's been playing in a style, like, when they're up, he's not really that aggressive, right?

He's making sure everyone gets involved. And in that fourth quarter, when the tide turned, he wasn't even, he didn't have his rhythm. Like the game was, they were dominant for majority of this game. So he was, you know, passing the ball around, doing his thing, getting everybody, just trying to get that win. And when, you know, OKC turned and caught up, it was far, it was. So in the two losses, is he nine points? No, so they won game two, right?

He had, or yeah, one game two he had nine points. Yeah. Then one game three he had 22 points. Hit that nice. So he's one and one with the scoring. It seems like just whenever I pick, you know, I pick Kyrie 8.5 assists under, lower, lower than that, and he ended up getting nine.

Yeah, I wouldn't put him on eight and a half assists. That hurts too. He wasn't even throwing it. He was averaging six. Yeah, I wouldn't. So I'm like, all right, Kyrie definitely going to give me 20. You know what I'm saying? Let me go over on the 20 and he give me nine. Like I've been telling y'all, if I pick this, you pick that.

I'm telling you. You got to go both ways. And I try to go both, but it's just, you know, they didn't have the same options. I'm doing in-game bets. It was like, I mean, in-game picking, so it was like. We do not bet here at Underdog Fantasy. We do pick them. Well, technically, just not in this state.

Not in this state, yeah. If you're in Carolina, North Carolina and Florida raise up Lorna Or you got the burner with the location? You and I pick you you need to be picked and goddamn So do you talk about how the Mavs role players are sending in real time? And they want a good chunk of games in this series. You got like PJ Washington coming through Lucas still that superstar engine, but how crucial is that Luca finds a chunk of games in this series. You got like P.J. Washington coming through. Luka is still that superstar engine, but how crucial is it that Luka finds a way to close out this series

considering how well they're playing or how well they've been playing as a team right now? I mean, you know, listen, your role players can do so much, right? They can win you a game or two. They can't win you a series, right? Your role players can't win you a series because that's not how they are designed or the offense is designed. Well, and that's probably winning at home, not on the road for role players can't win you a series because that's not how they are designed or the offense is designed.

And that's probably winning at home, not on the road for role players. Yeah. I mean, they can hit some shots. They can keep you, you know, going through a quarter. But, you know, if you're relying on your role players to get you wins, then your team ain't that good. Yeah. You got to really, like, do some self-checking. Like, you know, Kyrie, 9-9. That's good for, you know, a quarter or two,

maybe a game you up 20, which y'all damn near were. Right? And, you know, it just bit you in the ass that you wasn't on, you know, you wasn't in rhythm when the other team came back. You know, that's it. It bit you in the ass there. Because what happens is the role players now look for you. Yeah.

And now you're like, oh, shit. It's supposed to be my time. What's the stats for the team? Read off the stats for Mavericks. What? For that last game. For that last game? Just what you want, the shot attempts?

No, just the points. Point total for that game? Peter Jay Washington had 21. Luke had 18. Derrick Jones had 17. Gafford had 10. Kyrie had 9. Those were the starters. Derrick Jones had 17. Gafford had 10. Kyrie had nine. Those were the starters.

Tim Hardaway had six off the bench. Lively had seven. Green had three, and Exum had five. So it's PJ and Derrick Jones Jr. who are playing out of their minds, and Luka had 18. He's usually 25 plus, right? We can give Kyrie from 17 to 21, depending on how he feels.

So if you got Derrick Jones getting buckets out there, like you said, you can't depend on him to win you a series. So do you need him to have confidence? A hundred percent. When we get you the ball, shoot that bitch. If I'm giving you open looks, make them. But when you're you the ball shoot that bitch I'm giving you if I'm giving you open looks make them But when we're when you're taking the ball to the hoop and you're being you know overconfident within the office Four minutes left in the game which I was depending on somebody to take over the game

So you know some problem that last four minutes of the game because it doesn't they were up ten Majority of the fourth quarter two and then when it turned it turned fast But that's when Luke and them were taking step back threes, playing that bullshit, thinking about the end of the game. And it was too late. They got so much confidence now. They done tied the game up. They done went up one.

Now you want to try to kick it too late. Well, if you think about how we really play in crunch time, you say, look, we need to stop. Let's get a stop. Let's capitalize on the other end. OK, see, it's all they're thinking stop. Let's get a stop. Let's capitalize on the other end. OKC is all they're thinking is just get a stop. So if you're offensive, you're the Dallas Mavericks, you're thinking we have to execute.

We need a bucket or a foul. And if you're bailing yourself out with step-back threes, like that is just terrible basketball. And the one thing I like about the Boston coach and OKC coaches They call timeouts when they need to fix something Immediately they don't even let it come timeout. Let's fix this real quick. Hey guys, we need to execute down the stretch This is down the stretch. Let's not take quick shots. What's the point? When you have the lead, what's the point? Why are you taking bad shots? Let alone

Bad step back threes? 18 seconds left on the shot clock. I seen Luka play one-on-one. They gave it to him in a post, and he had some nice-ass moves there. Why are you wasting your energy with Dorton trying to bring the ball up the court? Every time. Go old-school basketball. Let me sit you at the ball up the court. Every time. Go old school basketball. Let me sit you at the logo a couple times.

Three, four times, a quarter. And attack from there. At least I know when you do a step back, it's going to be a two. It's not going to be damn near 27. You can fuck Kaitlyn Clark now. At least when she shoots, she's by herself. Because they just don't even think she's about to shoot some shit like that

Right you you're you're at the three-point line by the time you step back your damn at half court Right, so let's go a couple logos you now you got him facing up now. He can't touch you He can't handshake you you go sideways. He got you you face up got to get his hands off You're tall shoot right right there. That's a nice little shot. It's like those little things. Those are the things that you got to... This is the playoffs. You got to exercise your whole bag. So has he put him in the post? No.

That's where he's going to get his fouls. That's the one place he can't guard him down there. It's going to be a foul. He can guard you on the perimeter. He's definitely showing he can guard you on the perimeter. Yeah. That's the part that just. Hope J. Smith is watching. Chris Paul posted up more than these dudes.

Yeah. Growing, Chris Paul can't get his shot off. You know, he gonna get elbow. Elbow going, yup, yup, yup. Baiting him for the foul. Yup, if he can't get that, he gonna go one hard right fade. You know what he's doing, but you couldn't stop it.

Facts. But even he knew to get in the pole. He didn't give a fuck who was guarding him. Gary Payton. Gary Payton was busting my ass on the post up. I was like, hey, hey, switch. I called a switch. Back then, we wasn't even switching.

It was a figure roll. I said, switch. He looked at Eric Dampier like, what you think about that? Get that switch on me. He ain't even trying. Post up. Easy. Easy. Easy. Lay. I'm like, what you think about that? Get that switch on me. He ain't even try, he post up, easy, easy, lay. I'm like, oh, shh. With the side head tilt in the armchair. He posted up the big man.

Yes, yes, I got you. I ain't doing nothing different. I ain't gonna lie, 90s was arrogant. This was arrogant, motherfucker. Yeah, I'm gonna help you. I ain't doing... Switch back. Switch back.

Switch back. Shit, you could have stopped me. What the fuck am I gonna do? Coach, send me out. Well, that's the one thing we see. Let him get tired. We see Luka do more pick and rolls because he's looking for the switch.

He's trying to get the switch. He's trying to get away from Dort instead of embracing getting him in foul trouble. Yeah. Get him in foul trouble. He has you... Listen, he embracing getting him in foul trouble. Yeah. Get him in foul trouble. Listen, he has your number in that area. Put him in an area that you have an advantage.

If I had a guard that can pick me up full court, I'm not dribbling the ball up full court. At all. So do you, I agree with you, do you look at the coach and say? What are we doing? Like coach why are you seeing that? Don't you doing something different or do you leave that on the player right like Luca? Get your ass on the boat like there's a coach supposed to be mindful of it and the player himself Right like there would be play something and then like I'm sitting there shooting Jeff shot. He'll get your ass on the block So even another player like a Kyrie

Luca yes Like he can't touch you on the block Kyrie's does more mid-range But then it's like if you if youuka and you know they're going to W, or you Kai, you know they're going to W, why wouldn't you go to the post and play out the post for the 1-2-3? All right, the 1-2-3 being swing, swing, swing, corner shot. Yeah.

But then you got Lively in there, right? So what are you doing with Chet Holmgren in the dunker? Or if you got Lively at the free throw line, is he diving? Is he staying wide? Are you playing wide? Who's at the four at this point? Who's at the five at this point? I don't think they've looked at those options. I think it's like it's sexier to shoot

between the leg, behind the back, step back, and it goes in. And that's where they're having a problem with, because OKC is not sexy. Sexy is the win. I agree with you. I think in their minds, it's like, it is. People would rather see that.

And that's sexier than for me to get on the block and, you know, post somebody up. It's a game. It's a game. The game plan is, look, I'm going to fade on you. I'm going to fade on you in this corner. I'm going to jump hook you. These motherfuckers sitting there. The shit is sitting there like,

all right, got you. Jalen Brunson sits in the mid post, I mean in the goddamn mid post and mid range. All day. Yeah. He mid ranges the shit out of everybody. Yep, turn off that right shoulder, with his left shoulder turned.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, all day. There's a reason motherfuckers be killing, because... Let's keep it moving. You can't spell win without W. And with that in mind, the WNBA's 28th season tips off tonight. And there's a lot to discuss around the league. Thank you.

You already know. That was good. The Aces are back-to-back champs, looking to become the first team to three-peat since your Comet squads won four straight chips from 1997 to 2000. I know. I look at the jersey every day, even when you're not here, and say, damn, I ain't got near one of them accolades.

I ain't came close to none. Not a near nutter. But, Cheryl, when you're looking at this Aces squad trying to get the three-peat, does anybody want smoke with the Aces this season? I mean, a lot of people probably think they do. Trying to get the three-peat. Does anybody want smoke with the Aces this season? I mean, a lot of people probably think they do. The Aces are good. And the talent they already have,

and honestly, the two pieces they got in the draft, I think were steals with D'Asia Fair from Syracuse and Kate Martin from Iowa. Like those two, they're the perfect fit for what Vegas needs. And Asia, I think, is on a mission. You know, she got the 8-1 coming out. She got all kinds of everything going on. I'm putting my money on the Aces. If I was a betting woman, I'd put my money on the Aces.

So we go higher or lower underdog fantasy higher lower another 0.5 championship for the aces this season you're gonna go higher on that okay it's a no-brainer for me yeah so what makes them clear cut though in comparison to everybody else's additions um even for the Liberty. Who signed any big free agents? Seattle. Seattle got Nneka Agumake. Skylar Diggins is back. Yeah, Skylar's back.

But when I look at the aces, like, they're starting five. To me, it's all five of those players are good. Yeah, like all five. And then you bring in, you know, I say at least three players off the bench

that could be starting somewhere else. Y'all need to grow up. I'm not listening. Chelsea, Kelsey, Jackie Young, Kelsey. Jackie Young. Jackie Young. Kelsey Plum. Asia.

Asia. And then Kia Stokes. Kia don't really score, but Kia's a rebounder. She's a defender. And that's where I think, like, Kate Martin can fill a little bit of that void with Candace retiring. And then Fair is just a bucket. Like, she can just score the basketball. Kirsten Bell's a shooter.

And I think their whole, like, the organization, what they're doing, what they represent, and Becky. Like, Becky is a player's coach. You want to play for her. You want to win. And, hell, they're the defending champs. You know what I mean? You think that there's a fear amongst the league just kind of how? Golden State had their fear

for two three years and when they were winning everybody was just kind of tired of seeing them win because they They can come in and beat you by 20 plus points and sit back and be like, you know We got firepower all over the place. We ain't really got to do too much. We just play together. Do you think that that kind of level of fear is happening with the aces? Cause it doesn't seem like they have a lot of competition when it comes to on paper, but I also see a lot of teams out there that can give them a run for their money. I agree with that. I think, I think this year there are teams that will give them a run for their money. I agree with that. I think this year there are teams that will give them a run for their money. I don't think they're ready yet.

If the league had it their way, I don't think they want the Aces to win again. I don't. And I've actually said I feel like the Aces are like one of the most disrespected teams and they're the defending champions. Because it's like chess, right? You know, when people talk about chess, right? The thing with chess is both parties start with the same piece. Right? It's fair. That's not life. Life is not fair. So it's not a chess game. No, it's fair. That's not life. Life is not fair. So it's not a chess game. No, it's not. So when

you're talking about the aces, they are the dynasty. Treat them like one. And that's my thing. And that's okay. There needs to be a superhero or a boogeyman. In this sense, boogeywoman.

If the league is afraid of them. I know, boogeyman sounds better. We do not need a boogeyman, right? In this sense, boogeywoman, right? If the league is afraid of them. I know, is the boogeyman sounds better? We do not need a boogeywoman. I need a boogeywoman. I need a boogeywoman. Bring me a boogeywoman real quick. That sound nice. That sound real nice to me. A boogeywoman. Let her crawl up from under the bed and shit. Ooh. Yeah, I'm waiting for your ass. I've been waiting for you all night. Taking you so long to get here. God damn it. Bring another one. Bring another one. She is.

But you need someone to be the standard for everyone else to envy, to hate, to say, I need to go get this player. If you keep trying to water it down to make it seem fair, that's where you don't help your own league. There's a reason the NBA was built off the Lakers and Boston and Chicago. Because when they got Charles Barkley, right?

I need to go beat Michael Jordan. So now he goes to the Phoenix. He left the one coast to go there because he needs to build. Players themselves want to go different places because I don't want to team up with them. So let me go to the Liberty. Now you have all this moving and you're building better teams everywhere else. But if you keep trying to water it down, no one thrives. Agreed.

Totally agree with that. You talked about the Aces trying to three-peat your Comet squad, we're on four straight chips. If your Comets had to go against the Aces in a five-game series, what is she supposed to say? Hey, you know. That is what I'm supposed to say, but I have reasons behind it. Yeah, what are the reasons?

Can the Aces get some games off y'all? They can get a quarter. They can get a quarter. They might win one game. They say Jackie Young might be locking that up, though, over there. Locking who up? I don't know. That's what they saying in the chat.

That's what they saying in the chat. They say Jackie Long got that strap and it is long. Woo! The three time MVP. They don't want that. They don't want that. The chat don't even want that. They say Asia got Tina on lock.

Say Asia got Tina on lock. Smack him got Tina on lock. You can smack him loud over there. Smack him loud over there. That's what they saying. Say Tina ain't have on shoe. Asia got on shoe. It's just, we were just built different. Like, the aces, I love everything about them. But, nah, it wouldn't happen.

You got, you got Coop, Swoops, Thompson nah, it wouldn't happen. You got Koops, Swoops, Thompson. We were just different. Super team. We were just different. We didn't have super teams back then, but that's the terminology they use now. It just... And

the Aces don't have enough defenders. Jackie Young's a great defender. She ain't enough, is it? Send help. Send help. They're going to be sending help all night. Send help. For everyone.

I will say probably where they would have an advantage would be, like, inside. Just because, like, we had decent post players that could defend, but our post, besides Tina... Because Tina played more on the perimeter. She played, like, the four, a stretch four. Stretch four? Um... Nah.

We can go to the next question. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Damn. Mm-hmm. Damn. Mm-hmm. I know what you're gonna say.

I just had to ask I know that's one of the things we know how many MVPs I'm also sending this video but did you really think I'd be like how many MVPs did Coop have

how many MVPs did Coop two so y'all had five MVPs just five you got two y'all had five just five I need to get you

I need to get you the trophies that's basically what you're saying it's hard and it's hard like winning one championship, but then repeating and to win four in a row, like... Y'all had to be bad.

Yeah. Three-time MVP, got a two-time MVP. Y'all just battling against each other. For sure. The whole time. Y'all battling against each other. There was no... It was us battling.

Which one of us going to win MVP? With MVP, yeah. Was that going on? No. No, no, no, no, it wasn't. No, we were trying to win another chip. OK. Yeah, yeah.

You see it? She's like, nah, that wasn't going on already. Already. I knew I already had that. Skip. You just, no. Bring it over here. Oh, bad.

Yeah. Dude, the way you said it, like, nah, that wasn't going on. She knew it was. She knew it was right. It really wasn't. No Bring it over here. Oh, man. The way you said it, I thought that wasn't going on. She knew it was. She knew it was right. It really wasn't. She's like, mm. No, it wasn't. It was more about, all right, what did you do this offseason?

You, you. Like, what did we all do this offseason? Because we know everybody coming for us, and we got to win another championship. So, yeah. Who put that work in? We're going to find out soon enough. How much do you average on your MVP seasons? I don't know.

20 plus? Yeah. I don't know. I really don't. I don't remember. I just finished the game. They gave me the trophy. I go home.

Let me know when the league get competitive because right now I'm thinking about playing in the NBA. I was trying. I worked all summer for this. Shit. Brandon, help me. Help me with this. I don't know. I really don't know.

I don't know. So let's talk about this season, though. Let's do it. Strong rookie class entering the W this season. What rookies are you expecting big things from? It was a great rookie class. But I do want to say this. I think I read yesterday there were 36 rookies drafted and only 13

made a squad. Yeah, I've seen a couple of them got cut. And some that were pretty good that I thought would make a team. But when I look at the ones that did make a team, when I watch preseason,

I think Chicago had two preseason games, and I thought Angel Reese played really well in both of those preseason games. A rookie from Dallas, her name is Jalen Brown actually no one knew anything about her the kid can flat out go and then the kid they drafted from Ohio State uh J.C. Sheldon she's gonna be good obviously Caitlin I think for me with Caitlin, I think it's going to depend on how she can get her teammates to play with her.

You know what I mean? Because at Iowa, she did everything. You know, however many shots you want to take, whatever you want to do with the ball, you can do. It's just a different ball game. And you have some players like Analia Boston and Alyssa Smith, a Kelsey Mitchell. Like, they got to have a rock.

It's like when Steph came into the league, right? They have to get used to the style, right? When you throw the pass and I cut, I'm looking to get the ball back. I pass to you. It's just, the problem is, too, it's not like training camp where in training camp,

we're figuring out, okay, this person right there. When we had John Wall, right? You know how he does the pick and roll going one way and we float up? We realize that he's making that corner pass when he sensed that galt when he can see the the um the defender come up he's making that corner pass and we realize that after you know day three that that's where he's throwing the ball he's not he's

not coming here throwing it like that yeah he's coming here firing into that corner so when he did pick and roll uh me and Kirk Heinrichs, we had to tell each other, just stay in the corner because that's where the pass is. So we had to learn his mannerisms. The W, they don't have enough. You're not giving them enough time to jail to figure it out before the season. Training camp's two weeks.

Like when you look at the rookie class, the draft was on May, I don't know, whatever the day was. And then a week later, those players are going to training camp. So you got about two weeks of training camp. Then you're playing a preseason game, and then the season starts. Yeah. So there is no time to really gel together. And that's how it's been. Like, I'm getting excited.

Yeah, for sure. But that's wild to me that you're coming off of, like, or, you know, coming off of a college season, rolling right into draft. Now you league now. Go. I can see why so many players are getting cut. The adjustment period from college to the W, you don't even give me time to adjust. Like, where is my I got to lift and get ready for the physical part?

Like, think about... And that's a big part of it Like that's a big adjustment part is the the speed the quickness the physicality. It's very different from college Mm-hmm, but but the other part yes, we need more teams which thank goodness. We have at least two more coming It also says that the talent that's already in the league is good. No, it's good. Let's just say they ended college, right? When they ended college and in two weeks they got a trial for the NBA. Majority of those guys are not beating the 15th player.

I agree with you. What ends up happening is because they're not physically strong enough, so those guys, they're spending two, three months, not even two, three months, in the season, March? Yep. They don't have to be prepared physically,

mentally, skill-wise until October 1st. For sure. Guess what? Look how many months you get to train on your body

to be ready to face training camp. No, I agree. I agree with that. Guess what? That's not my motherfucking problem. You are now a professional. I agree with that too. And listen, when you in school,

when you in school, you know what you prepare for when you're on your last year or that year you say you gonna go? You prepare yourself to go. So you in the weight room, you in there preparing to be a professional. You know what I'm thinking, Caitlyn, thinking?

I'm holding my game back because I have an expectation to be this type of player once I get to the WNBA, which is to adapt to the style of play. I gotta get my teammates involved. I gotta do the things that I usually didn't do in college

to show them that I can do it. When I'm telling Caitlyn to tell everybody to move the fuck around, I'm here now. Y'all need to adjust to my style of play. Fuck all that trying to get you involved and get you involved. That didn't help at all. Did y'all win? Did y'all win the championship? Hell no.

Did who win the championship? Indiana. No. It didn't come close. Right? So, Caitlyn is there like Wimby's there. I'm here to make an impact.

I'm here to change the culture around here. Y'all need to adapt to me. Y'all need to adapt. I don't need to be coming here passing to y'all and trying to figure, trying to be this team player.

But she was a passer, though. She's a very great, and that's what they're saying about it. They're like, look, she's so good at passing that she's going to be able to get y'all open. But let me establish Mia being a dominant threat first. Here's the difference in that, because she's a very good passer.

The physicality of the game on this level is very different than what Caitlin, Angel, Camilla, all of them saw in college, right? So a lot of the stuff with Kaitlyn handling the ball when you were talking about Luka, right, and putting all the pressure on him, there are players who are going to get up in her space from the time she touches the ball, and they're going to be very physical with her. And so that alone is going to take her out of her game.

She even said herself after preseason game, the speed, the quickness, the physicality of the first preseason game they played is different, and it's something that I've got to get used to. You know what she was doing? She was being modest. No, she wasn't. You can see it. Cheryl, you were in the building for that game.

I watched the last game. You can see it. I just watched the last game, and I seen the pressure they were trying to put on her. Coast to coast. Bucket and one. And she did it only a couple times because she wanted to show that I can do this. I can just run right.

I'm faster than you. I'm better than you. But let me tell you. I'm delegating my game because you guys want to see this. But I'll also tell you why that was. That game you're talking about was against Atlanta. Yes, the dream. Yeah, I saw that.

First of all, those players that she had in, they didn't make the team. She's playing some of those players to see, I got to make cuts, so let me put you in. Those players that were in, I'm showing you what I can do. I can take it coast to coast. Any one of y'all

want to come up and push up on me, I'll go right by you, like I was doing in school. I was going right by them. Her foot speed, her ability, her skill set outside of having a middie, which I always say she needs to get better at the middie, but the things that she knows as far as the game and the elements

of creating space to get her shot off, one. Two, to get right by you to get the fucking bucket. Two, make the perfect pass and the extra pass three. Like, she's got it. She's got it. She just needs to do it. And she needs the team to know, I'm out here to do this shit.

Y'all don't need to be hating. Watch the game tonight. But that's what I'm saying. The W has to do a better job of acclimating the players. Because most of the time, it has nothing to do with the skill. If they're coming into the draft and you're drafting this person 10, they probably do have skill. They're going to get beat up in training camp, right?

You can't do that in there. Even when I went to my first training camp, even though I trained, I trained for training camp, I still have to go against the body to, okay, he was a little stronger than I was. Now I got to sit in the weight room

a little bit more. But my skill level, I'm ten times better than him. He's just physically bigger than me. Yeah. Now, if you cut... Because he's been a pro.

Bro, but that's what I'm saying. If you cut me, if you cut me before I adjust... Right. If you cut me, if you cut me before I adjust. Right. If you cut everybody, you cut Tatum before he adjusted. You cut these players before they got to adjust. If you cut them two weeks out of college, you won't even have an NBA.

You won't have an NBA. The only way that changes is you then have to change the W season. Yeah. Right? So if you want to have a longer training camp, so you're giving these players, these rookies, longer to adjust and adapt, then you've got to change the time of the season.

Yep. And right now they can't change that because then you're going to be going up against NBA. Yeah, it's the first month of NBA. Nobody watch that bullshit anyway. I'm just saying. I agree with, because of the adjustment alone, they absolutely should have more time. But there's a lot of different things that go with that.

You're cutting 22. I'm sorry. That's a lot of players. I'm not cutting no 22-year-old, 21-year-old for a 38, 39-year-old. I'm sorry. That is watering down your league because they have the experience but that you're missing

the new wave of a game coming in. Don't do that with the age. If you're saying 38, 39, I hear what you're saying. But LeBron's still playing. Uh-huh.

He's taking a roster spot. What I'm saying is, but he's still... LeBron is still playing, and he's still... You have one. Deception. That's an exception. Yeah. You have one. But... So, even in the W, right? Because people, even last year, were like, DeJuan Abana needs to retire. Let some of the younger players play, because DeJuan Abana, I don't know, how old is she? DeJuan Abana, Diana Taurasi, probably the two oldest in the league. They're 42 players play. I don't know how old is she. Diana Taurasi is probably the two oldest in the league. They're 42, 43. And Dewana Bonner destroyed

players last year. But what is the average? I don't know the average age. I'm going to say the average age is probably late 20s. But what I'm saying is, for the most part, when you're cutting your young talent, think about the young talent, the young mind. They're not jaded by old school, the style, the we need to do 26 passes.

They're not jaded to that. You're talking about players that's coming from 99, 2000, 2001. Think about the style of basketball back then Like even even LeBron LeBron don't know how to do it a year old without traveling for the most part You know his his game is still bass his his he's still basic, but it works But but now think about everybody else around him, right? Mm-hmm. That's what you're missing The Lucas you're missing. You're missing the Lucas. You're missing the Ja Morant types.

You're missing all this new skill that's coming into the league because you're cutting them and keeping the older generation. Now, these kids mentally are getting, like, you need to watch some of the older to put a younger game in. It has to happen.

The average age is 27.3 in 2023. So if you got rid of LeBron with the Lakers right now, they would all be like, oh, about time. Now we can play basketball. It ain't even LeBron because he's still dominant. We're talking about like, think about some of those guys

at the end of the bench that are 36, 37, 38. But it's the style of players. What am i still what am i still holding you around for what do you do okay you're a good vet you're a good vet because the rest of my team is 22 23 21 that that's why you're a good vet i don't need my whole team 35 and up no for sure and that doesn't exist that doesn't exist in the W. Your whole team's not that. You probably have, I would say, I don't know, maybe four teams that have older players, but it's only one or two.

And I think those vets are good for the younger players coming in. Like 13 out of 36? I mean, when one... No, I hate that number. That is not a good look for the league itself. 36 that I mean when I know I hate that number that is but it's not That's not a good but that's not a good look for the league. There are more teams That's going to happen. My sister was playing Tulsa sock this was going into her

She was supposed to go into her fifth year and she got cut for Marion Jones For the sake of the name. This was the track Mary and Jones. Yeah, Mary Jones. The track Mary and Jones. For the sake of just having her on. She never played. None of that stuff, right? But my sister was jaded from that experience because she felt like she definitely not only deserved a spot,

but she could really play. She could contribute. But like you're saying, those other younger girls that are getting cut for players who are just for the namesake, they're older and people still want to come see these players play, but it's not contributing to the game. It's contributing to the ticket sales. Those are the decisions that the WNBA needs to make because, like you're saying, those girls that are getting cut are going to the other side, and they're like, damn, am I good enough? Am I good enough to play?

So are you saying the WNBA should be the one to cut or get rid of some of the older players? No, it ain't WNBA. It's team. It's the team. I know, it's team. But you said that's where the WNBA needs to take it. They need to evaluate what to do with the younger players based on keeping

older players for ticket sales or notoriety or the fact that they want to bring in these younger talent just because they want to better the team. Because the younger talent can contribute to the team's success, but they just might not have the names. But it also don't mean just because they're younger that

they're better. No, 100%. For me, it's like I gotta, like, I%. For me, it's like you got to watch it. If I know someone is more skillful, but they're just getting manhandled, I'm going to keep that player. Because I know once you get strong, or just like this person, that you're going to surpass. You know what they need. Just right now, it's just like AAU basketball, right?

The number one players in the country, they're going to all be about 6'10", 6'9". They're just stronger than everybody else. It takes the guards, the skinny kids, probably to college when they really get on the weight room program. You know, to catch up to the body size. And once they catch up to the body size, they are more superior because they had to be skillful early versus the guy who's just brooding through everybody. So it's something you have to watch and say, okay, the skill, but it has to be, that's why I said it has to be for a college kid, he literally gets the, if he don't make the tournament I don't have to go against this pro. Oh, for sure.

For sure. March, I don't have to go against this pro. Oh, for sure. March, I don't have to go against you until October. I get to work on my body for seven months, and I'm still not ready, but I'm not where I was when I first got out of college, because that's college basketball. The W is not

college basketball. So you're telling me I'm supposed to come from a swimming pool Right to the ocean where you've been just sitting there swimming the whole time, right? I'm shark There are people out there who say oh The W ain't any different than college. So, yeah, she'll go and be right. It happens. There are players.

I wish the W would even add a few more roster spots, right? Because no doubt there are players that get cut that are good enough and they should be playing in the league. Jalen Sherrod, who played at Colorado, I thought she had the best shot at making the Liberty team. And she got cut. And my reason was, first of all, Jalen could score the ball, but she's a defender. And when I look at the Liberty team, especially on the perimeter, the Nigel Laney's the only perimeter defender they have. Like, you need somebody else that can come in and help your

team. So when you talk about can the aces, can the Liberty give the aces a run for their money? I don't think with the team, they have the same team they had last year. Can you, can, like, let's say someone gets cut. Can another team pick them up? They have to clear waivers, and

yeah. So that happens. How many players on the team? 12. Oh, they're still like the 12. Yeah. That's three extra. We got 15. Yeah, so they still in the 90s.

Or 80s, 80s when they only had 12. Well, when the league started, we actually had, I want to say we had like 14, 15 players and two on IR. Yeah. They got rid of that and expanded more teams, which ended up being the same amount of number anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there are four games tonight. It just sucks.

Four games tonight to kick off the WNBA season. So we're going to go around the couch, get one pick from everybody that they like tonight. This will make the Gills Arena pick them for the night. So Faye with us or Rock with us? Faye, I'm 3-0 right now. So Cheryl, we're going to start with you. Alyssa Thomas, higher or lower, 4.5, first half rebounds.

What are you taking? Easy. Higher. Easy money. Yeah, 18. Let's go. I took that, too. That one's easy.

Totally, right? Yeah. Yeah, I took that, too. So, Rashad, Kelsey Plum, 20 points, higher or lower? Yeah. Yeah, I take that too. So Rashad, Kelsey Plum, 20 points higher or lower? Lower. Who are they playing? I think they're playing Phoenix. I don't know who the Aces are playing.

Phoenix. Yeah, Phoenix. Yeah, Mercury. Aces playing Phoenix. And you said Kelsey Plum lower than 20? Ambitious. She having some man problems. Kelsey ain't thinking about that man. Yeah,. Kelsey ain't thinking about that man.

Man, yeah, ain't thinking about that man. He's thinking about her. That DM lit right now. You see that Skims, Mac? Right? I was going to say, you saw it in that skim. She's conflicted. No, she ain't.

You see that Skims, Mac? She's conflicted out there. Hey, everybody was like, Skims, like, who the hell are these girls? Mm-hmm. The WNBA? Oh, yeah. Hey, how you doing? Hey, big head.

Hey. She ain't used to that much attention, man. She ain't used to that. I'm coming to the game tonight. She ain't used to that. Clank, clank, clank. Gil, Brittany Sykes, higher or lower 4.5 rebounds? Higher.

Okay. I know, I know. And the Mystics playing in who? New York. Let me pull it up. That's a good one. I like Brittany Sykes. Yeah, Brittany Sykes. One thing she do is she brings energy and she gonna rebound. Yeah. And Underdog has a special pick for Kaylin Clark. It dropped from I think 21.5 to 17.5 so I'm going to go higher just out of respect. When Lexi didn't play so I'll go lower. No, we're not. You know what? We did not lose against Lexi. They always used to have like

Lexi like at 1.5 3s, 2, 3s. I took the high every single time. She never failed. She go to Alphabets with me. It's lower on everything. Lexi, you got to go to the Applebee's. You're going to be mad as shit. Lord!

Because there's one thing she's going to do is hit three. She's going to shoot that thing. She's going to shoot that shit. I know. No passing to an ex in the corner. Lexi had the scams going. They had that. No, they took it.

I just looked at it with respect for the show. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Respect for the show? You looked at it? Just out of respect for the show. Yeah, Lexi, they of respect for the show. It's a support our castmate. She got to advertise with you? She got to advertise with you? I didn't see it.

You missed it? I didn't see it. I thought you said you had a little booty. I don't know how you missed it, because you sat on the couch and thanked everybody except me. No, I didn't. You didn't even watch it. Surely did.

She truly did. Somebody had to remind you. It came from somebody on this side of the couch. I was pouring my heart out. You were really pouring it out. I was. I was trying to get everybody in there. And you didn't. I did. I just, you know, you're the most polarizing of us all.

It took a while. You mother queen. Mother queen. Let's move on to Mostly Fanta. Damn, man. I can't get off the hook. Y' to Mostly Fans. Damn, man. I can't get off the hook. That was on my ass, man. God damn. We got one question before we wrap this show up.

False. Okay. That might be an answer, actually. It's from Underdog User Kiwi23. He said, if you were the Spurs, would you think about trading up in the draft and order pair Wimby and Alex Saar as your new Duncan and Tim Robinson? So Saar is 7-for-1, power four from France. And the Spurs have the fourth pick and the eighth pick in this draft.

The Spurs got four? Fourth and eighth. They're going to trade them picks. Four and eight? I mean, this is a horrible draft. So, I mean, you can... I mean, that's what they say. I don't like when they say it's a horrible draft.

You just ain't seen what's in it. You got to find it. You got to find who it is. Because, you know, there's going to be two all-stars in there. There's going to be a couple all-NBA players in there. You got to find it. Two, four four plus some Four eight I mean four and eight to try to get the number one pick or

Zack 80 going one of them pigs you crazy as hell one of them pigs for eight He gonna go 44 or 88. I don't put nothing against it. Hey, man, it's just going to take you a couple years to get your shit together before you can be usable. But right now it's Brooke Lopez, and right now I don't need to pick you in the lottery with that game.

2-4? I'm going to talk. 2-4? I give you two and four? Four and eight. I mean, four and eight. I'll keep it four and eight. Plus some of these people don't want to pass the ball to my guy.

Have a conversation? I don't know. Is Hawks that stupid? For four and eight? Four and eight plus a couple players that you need on your side for one? Zach Eadie. Give me Zach Eadie and Zach Levine. Zach Levine.

What? I don't know how that's going to work out, but. Zach Levine? Wait, what team is this? This is Chicago. They don't have number that's going to work out, but... Zach Levine? Wait, what team is this? Chicago. They don't have number one pick? No, we're just trading. You're trading for the picks.

Trading for the picks. Whatever pick you pick, we trade this pick for Zach Levine. And you want E.D. too. And we want E.D. too. Who? Atlanta. Atlanta. You say it for Trey Young.

No. Trey Young going to... No, Sars. Alex to. No, Sars. Alex Sars. Alex Sars. I thought you were talking about Trey Young going to San Antonio. No, they trade the four and eight pick for the number one pick. I give you four and eight and give you two of these players that don't get a ball to win.

They're useful for you. And then you give me the number one pick and I got two seven foot. So you want the number one. Two seven foot French. You want the number one. We think he's going foot so you want to say you want to know more You we think he gonna go number one. So you think you think he always started? Yeah, but yeah, you want him instead of Zack Eady. You don't even know what he play like Yeah, he plays like a little less windy. No he don't

But he's a seven. He's a seven foot guard who can shoot a shot at a ball dribble another motherfucker like that on the same team Oh, yeah French connection You want another motherfucker like that on the same team? Hell yeah. Oui, oui. Oui, oui. Oui, oui. We can turn this motherfucker into French Connection. Shit, then we're going to go down and make a trade. Was it Bali? Balao Kool. Yeah, get him.

Now I got my French point guard in here. I got the five-four all Frenchmen. French fries everywhere. Nigga, you smell like French fries. He trying to sabotage my shit down there. That's my whip, man. Leave my wee-wee French kitchen on French bitches.

Yeah, that's French, yeah. We got to spread it out. We don't need them all in one place. We got one in Minnesota, San Antonio, Atlanta. But I don't know if Atlanta is going

to give it up. I mean... They getting rid of trade. They going to have to make it. They rebuilding. But that's what I'm saying. If I I'm Spurs I would take the seven footer that's the new wave that's what's coming

seven foot five men four men three men he can play every position too but my question to you is who the hell else is in the draft who the hell else in the draft besides him and Edie? We got two guys' names. Okay, you don't even want to put them in.

We got the draft combine going on right now. I can tell you right now, they don't have Edie going 35. Let's just say they don't have him 35. They got the kid from UConn. So who else is in the draft? You got guards. There's going to be some good names. You got some guards.

No, no, no. I'm asking, who? You're saying there's going to be some good names. You don't know them now? You can't tell me a name now? Rob Dillon. You got the freshman from Kentucky. Came off the bench.

I'm not picking on 23-year-old. Who else is in the draft? Give me some names. We are going to find out, Rashad. We are locked in on NBA playoffs. We just talking about

a bunch of, what? Everybody watch JV basketball anyway, so that's why when they say this is a weak draft, first of all,

how the fuck you know it's weak? You don't know what's going to happen when they get to the league. That's fair. Like, have you told me

this is about to be a strong draft? Where are those players at? Just like when you talk about the McDonald's is the best McDonald's, have 90% of them didn't make it to the NBA. So you're scouting on what people went through in zones and all. That has nothing to do with the next level. Next level is about your personal one-on-one skill.

Are you usable as a player? That's what the NBA has become. That's why that shit is trash. It's always been that way. We will find out in a few weeks. It ain't become that way. But sure, we appreciate you, as always, for pulling up. Now you got a flight to catch. These gentlemen trying to keep you here, trying to make you miss your flight.

You come back another day. Rashad, don't make me miss you. Make sure you stick around for a new episode of Sheed and Tyler after our show. This is Gil Zarina presenting my underdog fantasy. We'll see you all tomorrow.