Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down LeBron's WARNING To The Lakers | FT. The Professor

Episode Date: January 31, 2024

Gil's Arena Deciphers LeBron James' WARNING To The Los Angeles Lakers as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to another brutal loss for the Lake Show and discuss what LeBron's ominous ⏳ tweet means for Darvin Ham, Anthony Davis D'Angelo Russell and Bron's future in LA. They also break down why the NBA's new player participation policy is a stupid rule that will rob Joel Embiid of an all time season, before rehashing yesterdays debate of superstar vs megastars. Finally they welcome streetball LEGEND and basketball creator The Professor into the arena to talk all things streetball and hoops during his illustrious career. HELP US REACH 500k SUBSCRIBERS BY SUBSCRIBING TODAY!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Subscribe To Our Guest "The Professor" - https://www.youtube.com/@UC5zJwsFtEs9WYe3A76p7xIA APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:08:46 Brandon Gives The Mood in Milwaukee 0:10:49 Is Jalen Brunson A Star? 0:16:51 Superstar vs Megastar vs Supermega star 0:23:55 LeBron's Warning To The Lakers 0:42:39 Rashad Is Onto The Lakers 👀 0:55:14 The Professor Enters The Arena 1:03:07 Streetball Beefs 1:10:09 Which Streetballer Could Make The League? 1:17:38 Life Of A Streetballer 1:20:28 The Professor Describes His Game 1:24:00 Streetball's Impact on Culture 1:28:26 The Professor's Social Media Career 1:33:56 The Professor LOVES Wemby's Bag 1:36:31 Which NBA Player Would Be The Best Streetballer 1:41:03 The NBA Player Participation Policy IS STUPID 1:51:48 Will The Rule Force Players Back Early From Injury 2:01:03 KD DOES NOT Want A Nets Tribute Video 2:12:19 The Superteams That Never Were 2:18:27 MostlyFans 2:35:00 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. And we got Brandon Jennings back from his trip from Milwaukee and Rashad McCants. Where's the crown at? I got to take a break, man. Yesterday was a doozy, man. I did too much yesterday, man. That motherfucker was glowing yesterday. I didn't realize that shit was wrong. She got back hot like, ah, damn, I was wrong.zy, man. I did too much yesterday, man. That motherfucker was glowing yesterday. Yeah, glowing. He realized that shit was wrong.

She got back hot like, ah, damn, I was wrong. God damn it. I had to take that motherfucker off. You had to take it off, yeah. Shit. And streetball legend The Professor will be joining us shortly. Tell the professor. Oh, okay.

Look at that. Sound effects. That shit scared me. What was it? I didn't hear anything. The Professor. Oh, The Professor. Brandon, you were out in Milwaukee this weekend turning up with

some Bucks legends. What's the mood like in Milwaukee with the Doc Rivers hiring and our former players and fans optimistic? What legends was out there? Brandon Jennings. No, you said, yeah, former. What? You said former legends. Brandon was there. No, he can't hang out with himself. John McLaughlin. Legend. Who?

Sidney Moncrete. Sidney Moncrete. Legend. Scott Williams. Scotty Sidney Moncrete. Sidney Moncrete, legend. Scott Williams. Scotty. Scott Williams is there. It's Dolores Wednesday. I'm not even going to say nothing. Okay, so people that played for Milwaukee. They have their jerseys retired, too.

Bucks, legends. They have their jerseys retired, too. Speak on it. All of them? John McLaughlin and Sidney Moncrief for sure. Okay. Sidney Moncrief Hall of Famer. That third one you said.

The third one you said. What third one? You said another name. No, I said two of them have their jersey retired. Then what was the other person? William Scott. Scott William? Oh yeah.

There was a jersey up there? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know Bucs. Can Milwaukee salute their legends? That's what I'm saying. I didn't know Bucs. I'm just saying. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I saw his numbers. He did. Brandon Jennings representing a tough crowd. But what's the mood like out there? Are fans optimistic? I mean, I don't know. Okay. I mean, it's only been one game. I mean, you know.

It's all it takes, right? Yeah, as long as they don't have Dame Lillard playing like Rodney Stuckey anymore. Like he was in the beginning. That's how he's playing right now? That's how he was playing in the beginning. They had him playing. At the beginning of the game?

The trade? in the season I had to play like right just out there. Yeah So here's what's cracking in the arena today? Tyrese Halliburton says the NBA's player participation policy is a stupid rule, but is that facts or cap? LeBron posted a cryptic tweet after the Lakers lost to the Hawks Tuesday night but his time up? And for who? And the professor joins us to talk about streetball and the impact of the N1 mixtape on basketball culture.

He's a legend. You already know. Damn, that's my shit. Foot locker, foot action. Yeah, Gil. Legend. N1 mixtape's a legend. But before we get into all that,

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Well, technically I do have it at two. I'm gonna just zone. These are technically black forces, but they're not. I don't have black forces, but these are black forces. That's my mood right now. What happened? Nothing. Sometimes you don't wake up and you're just like, I'm on one today? Okay. What happened?

What happened about what? He told me to ask you what happened. Why are you on demon time? He told me to ask you. Because. Like, why you don't even tell me. Because he thinks Brunson is a superstar. Gil, no, okay, look. Don't, don't. We got to eliminate this East Coast, West Coast beef.

Did we not learn anything from Pac and Biggie? We got to move on, Gil. The Knicks are third in the East right now. Show a little bit of respect. A superstar? They don't even, don't even... Like... It's not the conversation. Define superstar.

No, no, okay. It wasn't the conversation. I said for Brunson, them, and the Knicks to get over the top, I said bring... There needs to be a star player. They need a number one option. Another star. He disagreed. Another star.

Jalen Brunson is the number one option. Jalen Brunson is a star, Gil. He's a star. Jalen Brunson is the number one option. Jalen Brunson is a star, Gil. He's a star. Okay, I mean, I said earlier, if I put Brunson on Suns, right, he becomes the fourth option. Now, if Brunson is the fourth option, how good is the fucking team? Correct, right? If Brunson is the number four option, that means that team is good as fuck, right?

Right? So if he's the best player on his team, what does the fourth option look like, Josh Hart? So if he's on a better team and he's the fourth option, his comparison would be Josh Hart on his team. What does that look like? It's embarrassing, right? So that lets you know how bad the team is if he's number one and that's the fourth option. But they're 13-2. They're 13-2. They're winning.

I think 14-2. Now third in the Eastern. Third in the Eastern Conference. They can't be too bad. So, no. Before they're 14 and 2, that means he's a superstar? No, no. We never said he was a superstar.

Don't go down that road. I said that Brunson is the number one option. He don't need... If you're the number one option, that means you're a superstar. Well, then he's a superstar. I mean, you have to be... If you're a number one option, that means you're a superstar. Well, then he's a superstar. I mean, you have to be... What you just said, that means he's a superstar because he's a number one option on the Knicks. So that's what you're saying.

You're saying he's a superstar. I never said that, but you just said it for me. I mean, the franchise guy is the... So what I said is you don't need to bring a number one option in with Jalen Brunson. You need to bring someone in that can compliment him because they're already playing well. They're Brunson. You need to bring someone in that can compliment him because they're already playing well. They're third in the East.

If you bring someone in that can compliment him. Like who? Zach Levine. Fuck no. If Zach Levine gets there, who's the number one option if Zach Levine gets there? Is Zach Levine the number one option in Chicago right now? Is he the number one option right now? In Chicago.

Yeah. What is DeMar? Second. So DeMar's number two behind Zach Levine. Yeah. Bull's ninth in the East. Just point that out. So if he was the number one option,

why would the number one option try to get out of there instead of building around a number one option? What does that got to do with who's the number one option because he wants to leave? Because you're not going to come to New York and become a number one option when we already got one. Oh. Hmm.

And we're playing well. Hey. Come here and play number two or number three and let us play better because you're good. I remember that. This is what I caught a headache on. Right? He's saying that. Right?

And then I asked him what KG was in Minnesota. Right? Number one option. Right? KG is the KG was in Minnesota, right? Number one option, right? KG is the number one option in Minnesota, right? That means whoever number two and three is is going to be below him. And I said, all right, when KG went to Boston, what option was he?

He put him at three. How good is the fucking team if KG, the ticket, is number three on a team? That means that team is that damn good if he, Kevin Durant, I mean Kevin Garnett, is the third option, which they won a championship. Because your third option is Kevin Garnett. Right? So if Brunson is your number one option, how the fuck you going to win? I'm just sorry.

Kevin Garnett did not have to leave to go to Boston, number one, because he could have stayed in Minnesota and stayed the number one option. Cool, okay. But he left because he didn't want to be there anymore. Okay, cool. So whatever team he picked, he could have been a number one option on those teams. He could have. So when he went to another team that had a number one option, that means that he now becomes less.

Then. Yeah. So why would Jalen Brunson go anywhere? I didn't say why would he. I'm saying if he does. But he's not. Okay, just let you talk. You said he didn't have to leave, which he didn't. but he's not okay i just let you talk you said he didn't have to leave which he

didn't but he did leave and he went there there was already a number one option which made him go back to his place which made him number three so if brunson left or he got traded to a better team with better players he has to fit in right if kg would have stayed the number one option that means his two is not that good. His number three option is not that good. Just like when Kevin Love was the number one player, right? When he went with a better team, he became the third option behind LeBron and Kyrie, right? He was the number one option, but when he got with a better team, he had to fit in where he got in.

That's not the conversation. That was the conversation. No, the conversation was Jalen Brunson does not have to go nowhere. We're not talking about Jalen Brunson going anywhere. No one has to go anywhere. So we're talking about the New York Knicks being a better player is because Jalen Brunson is the number one option. And in order for them to try to win a championship, you bring another player in with him. You don't go say, oh, Jalen Brunson go and play with the Suns, and they would go over the top.

Fuck that. Why would you do that when all I need is another piece for me? So bringing in Zach Levine is enough? No, but so if— To win a championship for the Knicks? To compete for one? If Kevin Love is the number one option in Minnesota, right, and he's the number one option, we know what he played like.

Imagine what you have to bring in for him to stay the number one option. For him, I want you to think about it. For him to stay the number one, Kevin Love, sir, for him to stay number one, what type of talent are you bringing in? I'm pretty sure it won't be no fucking LeBron James or no Kyrie to push his ass to three. Has to be someone who's under him. You know, kind of like what, Wiggins or...

Anyone under him! Because anybody that goes above him or better than him, it makes him number two. Isn't that why he left, though? He didn't leave, he got traded, sir. So isn't that why they traded him? Because he wasn't a good number one option? Thank you.

But they didn't trade Jalen Brunson. Not yet. Not at all. He wasn't a number one option. He just wasn't a good number one option. So Jalen Brunson is a good number one option. How many teams are there? 30?

How is Jalen Brunson? There's a number one player on every team. Don't mean they're actually number one players, sir. What are you talking about? Every team has a go-to guy. Don't mean Jalen Brunson is the number one guy for a team that's third in the

East. How is that not making any sense that he's a good number one guy? Because he's 6'1 and unathletic? They're winning. He's a winner. Known winner. And he's a good number one guy because he's 6'1 and unathletic, they're winning. He's a winner, known winner. And he's taking the fucking franchise who's been having trouble winning. Now they're winning.

And now we got a problem with it because he's 6'1, unathletic, and he don't fit for it. That's your feeling. I don't want to hear all that, man. Third in the West right now. Let's keep this thing moving, Gil. We veered a little bit.

That's your feeling. Jalen Brunson has proven to do what he's doing right now, killing motherfuckers. Is he better than Isaiah Thomas was when he was killing? Mm-mm. Okay. Next question. Does he need to be? No. So what the fuck is the point of that? I just said pointless shit like you do.

What the point? Jersey sales, please. Let's keep this thing moving and shaking. That's gonna hurt his feelings too, jersey sales. please. Let's keep this thing moving and shaking. That's going to hurt his feelings, too. Jersey sales. The NBA released their top-selling jerseys. I ain't bringing back up. I ain't bringing the top half of this season. I ain't coming here to bring up the old shit.

I'm already cooked. The NBA released their top-selling jerseys. You're asking me to ask? Okay, go. Let's go to these top-series jerseys. Hey, hey, hey. No, don't look away. Look up there.

Look up there, sir. Remember your argument yesterday about Superstar? Look up there. So Steph is holding down the top spot, followed by Tatum, Braun, Wimby, and Giannis in the top five. So we also see that Maxie's number nine. Woo, what? Woo. Wait, hold on.

Don't just go by that. Don't just go by that. Don't just go by that. I knew just go by that. Don't just go by that. I knew this was coming. Don't go by that. I knew this was coming. He said he asked me, was Embiid a superstar? Oh, no, not a superstar.

A megastar. I didn't ask you none of that. I didn't ask you none about Embiid. We didn't even mention Embiid. How is a megastar being beat by a teammate who's not even an all-star, not an all-NBA player. He ain't even all-weekly, right? We were talking about the MVP of last year.

The dude who's leading the NBA in scoring. The one who's ahead of everybody by miles. And the MVP voting is getting beat by his teammate in jersey sales. Yeah, but Gil.

There ain't no but. Maxie may be higher than Embiid, and that may be surprising, but as Sixers fans have pointed out, they already have Embiid jerseys. Oh, I think Golden State fans already have. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm smart enough. Don't play that game.

Don't play that game. I'm pretty sure everyone for the last 20 years or however long Steph has been reigning champ, they have his jersey on. More colorways, Gil. He didn't even change his number. Okay? Jason Tatum and LeBron ain't changed none.

I don't want to hear none of that. But you said Jason Tatum. I don't want to hear none of that. Giannis ain't changed his number. You said Jason Tatum wasn't a superstar. Who said that? You did. Who?

Did I just say you? I know you said me. You said that. That's a fact wrong Kenyon said that sir y'all both You're both agree. Yeah, Kenyon's here and say oh, I forgot about Jason say no he didn't he said he's I watched the whole He's on a 20. He said he's on a 20. You say he was teetering. He said shit I didn't say nothing. Wait is it super a superstar and megastar megastar? I didn't say nothing. Wait, is it superstar and megastar? Megastar. I didn't say nothing.

I did live today. I did live right before this. I said exactly. He's in the HOV lane. And you said, is he a superstar? He's in the HOV lane. You would never say yes or no. So don't say I did.

Is he or not? Again, don't say I did. You just said I did. You got a chance right now to clear the air. Is he a superstar? Again, don't say I did. You just said I did. You got a chance right now to clear the air. Is he a superstar? Yes. Okay, thank you. Megastar.

Is Giannis a superstar? No. So why is he number five? Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, Giannis is a superstar. Megastar, though. No, not a Megastar. Yeah, but superstar.

Superstar, yeah. Superstar, yeah. So superstar and Megastar. Okay, so this is the problem. He don't know the difference between... Mega, super, Yeah, so a superstar and make okay. So this is the problem. He don't know the difference between mega Superstar right there are some players who are Superstars, right? Yeah There's three levels

Even believe this right now. No, that's a fact. That's a fact. You said Luka wasn't a superstar. He's not. So why is he number six? Yeah, why is he number six? Because he's a superstar.

Why is he number six? Jersey salesman. Why is he number six? Wouldn't he be one, two, three? He's number six. Six. Because the other guys in front of him are superstars. I mean they are yes One two three four five superstars. Oh, that's who said it's only within Kenya said it was only two superstars

It's only two mega stars on there. Thank you. It's only two mega number one and number three It's only two mega stars. Everybody else is a superstar in the same thing. Can you say and I said Jason Tatum is in that mega star. He's in a mega star Lane. If he wins the championship Yes, he will be considered your face. I knew that right? There's only really two faces at one time So as long as LeBron and Kirby's in there he Jason Tatum is the next up So when Bron retires it'd be Steph and Tatum when Steph and LeBron goes it'll be Tatum is the next up. So when Braun retires, it'll be Steph and Tatum. When Steph and LeBron goes, it'll be Tatum and whoever's next. And the Megastar. Yeah, Megastar.

Mega. Yeah, Megastar is only one in three. See, the superstar is guys that have this aura that just can't turn it over. There's something about this. The market, people don't like them. It's something that keeps them from being mega. Mega means... Are we using your criteria for everything? No, I'm glad you...

No, we're going to use general managers on how they feel. So why do I have to use theirs? Why can't I just use my own? Because this ain't about you. Why is it not? It's my opinion, my perspective. It should be about what I think. But the NBA has different than you. No, but everyone has a different one. Everybody's list is not going to be the same on who superstars and who megastars and whatever.

No, no, no. At the NBA. Who do you think a megastar is? Huh? Who do you think a megastar is right now? Kobe Bryant is a megastar. Okay. Michael Jordan was a megastar.

Okay. Megastars. Okay. LeBron James. Dr. J. LeBron James. Yes. Okay.

Keep going. I'm just going to stop there. I don't want to keep going. Okay, so I'll tell you who they have as megastars. But I know what superstars are. Okay. Keep going. I'm just going to stop there. I don't want to keep going. Okay, so I'll tell you who they have as- But I know what superstars are. Okay, that's cool.

There's a lot. I know what superstars are, what I think they are, but you may think differently. So why can't we just have different of opinions? I'm not talking about superstars because there's a lot of superstars. You think that I'm going to just sit here and be like, oh, Otis Smith's criteria of what megastar is is supposed to be mine? I don't give a about what he thinks. Then we don't give a fuck about yours. Exactly! So why can't we just end it with what we ended it with yesterday? You believe this, I believe this. Gentlemen, the eve of Black History Month. So we're gonna say what

consists of what was considered a mega star in the NBA terms. They had Wilt Chamberlain as a megastar. Who had that? Wilt Chamberlain as a megastar. Bill Russell wasn't because he was an activist. Back then, white versus black, they kind of handicapped him as he was.

They smeared doo-doo on his walk. Yeah, so he wasn't. So he didn't get into the soup. It got to do with all the bitches and all that. He was a rock star. Okay, so we can understand the difference. Okay, Julius Ervin, Afro, ABA, we got it, right?

They said Kareem would have been a megastar, but he had a bad attitude. No one liked him. He didn't come across personality-wise. But let me just stop you with the Kareem. Game of Death with Bruce Lee. Airplane, I'm just saying. He may not have been personable with the media, but he was a larger-than-life figure.

I would say he's a megastar. He could roll in any country in the world, and they'd be like, -"How could he?" -"I appreciate you, Josiah, for that interjection." And then when Magic came, he was like, okay, we're gonna give it to you. So that's why Magic...

Kareem never opened a theater with unlimited strawberry soda refills. So at least we on the same category. If you had to put him... But Kareem was a megastar before magic came in or pushed him Out the paint took over his megastar. Okay, so magic Jordan Shaquille O'Neal Allen Iverson. I wrote they had Grant Hill He said he never got there Anthony Hardaway never got there Kobe Bryant megastar brawn megastar Katie He said he's just missing something. There's something he's missing. They don't know what it is. Katie wouldn't say that I

Wouldn't say it either. Nobody wouldn't. Right? I'm pretty sure. Why does he get to say it? Okay, Vince Carter never got there, but he was huge as shit. He was never a megastar? Never got there, but he was huge, so he wasn't.

He was a superstar. Says who? The guy who was sitting in Toronto. You know, he's sitting in Toronto when Toronto wasn't even a popular country. What about all the people who were watching Vince Carter play? We all like, hey, that's a megastar. Yeah, he was a megastar. Boing, boing, boing, boing.

You know when they say they never got there? That means there's something that happened that put them in another lane. I know what you're talking about, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, okay, you get it. No, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not going to sit there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know get no I'm not just I don't know Tracy McGill Tracy McGrady just never got there right injuries this and that but he was in he was in the HOV Lane He just never injuries in there all let me ask you a question about team McGill you pull up to China with team Mac

How many people are showing up in the hundreds of thousands? So So, how would you say that's not a megastar? Because he never got there. Overall, he never- why do you think he got cut out of the 75? Yeah, but you're a megastar there, but can you do that here? Yeah, but does it matter? Yes, it does. I'm just asking. Huh? Why is he not in the 75?

So you can- So China- Because of stats and- His stats because he got hurt! Does China have more people than the United States? Because of stats, he got hurt! Huh? Yeah. How than the United States? Because of stats, he got hurt. Huh? Yeah.

How many more? Like three, I think three, four times. Do you want to do this? Three, four times. So you're saying that because he's over there, he can do it over there and he can't do it over here. He's a megastar over there, but he's not over here. What does China have to do with the American standards?

It's the world. No, no, no. I get the world. I get the world. I get the world. But if you can't do it here, then like,, okay, you get $100,000 over there. We don't know what's going on. That's fine.

But T-Mac got love here, too. No, no, that's fine. But the same love is going to go from if Steph's here, if LeBron's here. Anywhere they go, it's going to be the same love. Like, I don't know if guys got that type of aura. People got hurt. They didn't get to finish their career off. He was in the lane. He just got hurt. Like didn't get the finish. They got that over off. He didn't he had that he was in the lane

He just got hurt like that. Just it just happened Yeah, they said well, you know not American standards, but yeah Curry mega bird mega then the new school they said jaw if he gets out of his own way So he's not a megastar yet, but he's on the fast track. He don't get it. Hat too tight. Luka, game doesn't translate for kids like that. Joel Embiid, he's a superstar.

Never one to take that extra leap. Zion, he still has time, but he's in his way. Tatum, yes. Something about Greek is just, we don't know what it is, but he's there. Winby, probably will be. Shea has to leave OKC to hit that because as of right now, nobody really knows who he is. You don't even know what his team record is. That's who New York need.

That's who New York need. At the point guard. LaMelo Ball, he's in that lane. Anthony Edwards is in that lane. Jokic, his game is not sexy enough and never will be. Is it that or that he just doesn't give a fuck? It don't matter if he gives a fuck. Who's out there saying I want to be

Jokic? It's aura. It's marketing. Now, I'm glad he said something about China. You said T-Mac is, because he sold in China. I said T-Mac big in China. We're talking globally, right? So I just, as a hypothetical, Gil, I'm a music artist. I sell zero albums in America, but I sell 10 million

I anywhere I eat Jimi Hendrix go here, but I've got ten times platinum anywhere else in the world to me that still signals Megastar status right it doesn't have to just be relegated to what you're standing in America So if you tell me T Mac pulls up to China, and he's getting a reception like Michael Jackson would well like Michael Jackson I'm passing you tell me hundreds of thousands of people pulling up to the airport. No cap. That's what you said. The airport would be shut down if Michael Jackson came.

Fair. No cap. That's the difference. But a rock star level reception when I pull up. Is that happening here? No. Okay. For me, because I'm a team.

Now, since we know what the old is of being a Mega star. Well, fuck it. You looking at one right here then Make yours a rate goes arena I'm a make it from y'all standards. I'm a mega star. Do you do have the best basketball show on the point? Nah, this ain't no show. We talking about basketball. We talk about basketball status sirs basketball status That means I'm a mega star compared to what y'all talking about then do you feel like you're a mega star? Well, I mean Right. Yes or no. I was I was at Adidas guy, right? Questions I'm an Adidas guy, right a me t-mac

Duncan right cage kg Chauncey and Chauncey I outsold KG, Chauncey, and Chauncey. I outsold Chauncey, Kevin, and Duncan combined. I was number two for one year. And then I overtook Tracy McGrady for the hottest shoes in China. Now, look up there, sir. Now you can look. I didn't know he was in court today, Gil, but here we are. Now, these jersey sales, these jersey sales was in the Olympics, in Beijing Olympics.

The redeem team. I know if y'all seen the movie, I was not on that motherfucking team, right? I was not on the team, but my jersey was selling number six in China over LeBron, James D. Wade, Dwight Howard, and Yao Ming. And all of those was playing on that team. The only person on the team that beat me out in jersey sales was Kobe being Bryant. Somehow you don't consider yourself a superstar. So am I a megastar? You're a superstar. Fuck no. You're a superstar. No so am I am I a mega star you're a superstar fuck

No, you're a superstar. No, nope. That was only thing he was right about oh, I didn't realize how big I was Okay, so you were wrong about that. I was wrong about that. Okay God you mid something man. Fuck so you got some right? You just like pulling teeth with this. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Degreener presented by Underdog Fantasy. I just want to be right. I just want to be right. I want to be right. Can y'all nap it?

Can y'all send each other a text? I just want to be right. Can we verse one? I don't know. Gil, it is the eve of Black History Month. I got something right. We have other things to talk to. You are a mega star to me, Gil, because you write my checks at any moment if that stops.

I'm just saying, you know. So according to Otis Smith's list, T-Mac and Vince and none of these guys would never... They're not mega stars. They're not mega stars. At any moment if that's not I'm just saying, you know, so cool T Mac and Vince and none of these guys would never And I make a star and I make a star They said super star the criteria was people who leave something on the game that changes history They made they have an impact on something and he says something that I didn't realize he said I don't know if you know how big he was, but there was a point, and probably still today, that jersey number zero is more worn than the number 23 now for like the last 10 years.

More people identify with zero in my story than they did with 23. A lot of zeros in the NBA cooking right now. And football. Oh, it is. There's zero in football too now. Let's say that again. The number zero is the most's zero in football, too, now. Let's say that again. The number zero is the most worn jersey in sports over 23.

In sports, basketball, football? Where is that document? Y'all can, you want to Google that, Susan? Because I know you got the team already putting a bunch of lists. You be up there practicing up there. I just come, I just drive over here. I don't know what we talking about, man. Put this shit on the board. Let's do it. I don't got no. I'm man. Put the shit on the border But I want to see the documentation for all this shit you bring it up and I gotta see this

I mean, I'm pretty sure you've never noticed the number 23 in football like that I noticed the number 23 who wore it who wore the number 23 Michael Jordan and LeBron James. LeBron James. LeBron James. But when you go to AAU and all that, do you see a 23 on every team? Pretty sure you see a zero now. And in football.

I opened up football. Let's talk about... Thanks to Jason Tatum and Westbrook. And Dame. You know, some zeros out there that kept the movement going. Let's talk about your favorite team, the Lakers of Los Angeles. Woo-woo! That's not a...

That's not a... Hey, yo, that is going to really start some shit. The star, superstar superstar megastar But you know I'm sure based on things are going cuz guys gonna fill away cuz guys gonna fill away But based on based on things are going a leg right now that was very inappropriate Subjective conversation Yeah, but everybody thinks they're a megastar and it's like just cuz they go outside and goddamn right I'm a fucking megastar. I'm gonna go tell me I'm not I'm gonna talk about what nobody said but you're not and if you say

if you say you cold who the fuck I'm gonna say you're not no that's what your sales the people when you go to do a concert if I sell one say if I sell if I sell one to one person and I'm a rock star, goddamn. One motherfucker bought it. One motherfucker bought it. That's cool. Based on when they came from nothing, I got one motherfucker that bought it. I know, but that's not reality.

Come on. Like this. Kendrick Lamar is probably one of the best rappers. Kendrick is probably one of the best rappers. Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick is a tough name for you though Kendrick Lamar is probably one of the best rappers moving right now, right? He's a he's a he's a superstar right yeah, I'm watch so I can't tell you Drake will be a megastar You see the difference right? One is probably

going to beat the other one out rapping. But the other one just has something that the other one doesn't have that pushes them to a whole nother

like Bad Bunny and The Weeknd. They have the it factor that pushes them over everybody else. It's just the it factor. It's just the it factor.

It's an aura. It's an aura thing. It's an aura. Is it? Yes. Hell yeah. Or is it a machine behind you called marketing? Man, listen, it could be a machine, all that.

It could be all that. But, man, if you're corny and you... We talk about how it's a machine. Man, listen, that machine is one thing. We do have the professor pulling up in the room. Like a machine like this, McDonald's, right? We have McDonald's? Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Right? McDonald's is a machine, right? H right we have McDonald's yeah, right? Yeah Right, McDonald's right or derves Have y'all ever seen only you can have a machine all you want ads of McDonald's Have you seen the sloppy's of the sloppy's eating McDonald's on a commercials in their ads? Nah, right? There's beautiful people eating McDonald's selling us everybody else. Oh, yeah, this is great They don't have the people who's actually ordering it They don't they don't have the people who's actually ordering that because that don't look good in sales

So they go get attractive people to move their product, right? Yeah, there's a machine. So let's talk about another machine get your face, right? Get on them to get on the covers I'm pretty sure Craig Mac ain't gonna be on you Don't want to sell a whole lot of copies of that very unnecessary as a blink-ass CD So Lakers dropped their second straight game Tuesday night to the Hawks in Atlanta. I told y'all I was on one already, so I don't even know what y'all mean. You did warn us that you were wearing the Adidas Combo Black Air Force. Black Air Forces. They're green, but they're black.

Army mode. So, Lakers dropped their second straight game Tuesday night to the Hawks in Atlanta. Things are starting to unravel. Past few weeks, we've seen Austin Reeves avoid giving Darvin Ham Dap. Anthony Davis walking out of a huddle while Coach Ham was diagramming a play. And Monday, during the Lakers' loss to the Rockies in Houston, cameras caught LeBron giving Ham this look. It was brief.

But it was impactful. Gil, you are fluent in Bronies. What does this look LeBron is giving to Ham mean to you? Man, he wasn't even looking at Ham. He was looking at the dude, man, that Ham was talking to, and he was trying's, what does this look LeBron is giving to him, me, to you? Man, he wasn't even looking at him. He was looking at the dude, man, that Ham was talking to, and he was trying to see what he was saying. Okay. I think. Okay.

So, that's fair. I think. So, let's move forward to Tuesday. Tuesday before the Hawks game with AD out, Christian Wood assumed Darviham would give him the starting nod. Wood posted this tweet about 20 minutes before tip-off after it was announced Jackson Hayes would be starting after the game. Wood tried to clarify the tweet. It was a, I meant to quote something, but I didn't have the quote. I thought I did, and I just pressed send, and I couldn't check my phone before, cuz we had to go out, but it was an accident. So I didn't mean, I think I looked at it just now,

I didn't mean it came off a certain time, I didn't mean it that way. Normally, I just feel like at the time we've covered you, you've been tweeting that time of the game is not your normal practice? No, no, no. Sorry, I understand. Not basketball related. Definitely not basketball related. So, for the record, that LOL tweet,

still up on Christian Wood's account, whatever he was planning to quote tweet with the LOL has not been quote tweeted with the LOL yet. But, moving on. LeBron was also ready to go on a rant after the game before being saved by the Lakers PR woman. Kurt, staying on the road for the next four games, big matchup against Boston, big matchup against the Knicks. What would your message be to your teammate and what can you do yourself to get back on the winning side of things? I don't have any message for my teammates.

Just go out and do your job. I mean, I'm not yet. Appreciate it. Way to cut me off because I was bothering you. So he said, I'm not Lakers PR when we cut him off,

dot, dot, dot. He said, way to cut me off because I was about to potentially go on a rant. I'm just saying. I got two problems. This is minor, right?

You can be a reporter with an iPhone. That's how they capture images. Because you know, sports journalism is struggling. Everybody's not doing as well as Gils Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. They used to send cameramen in there, now they want to send them. Hold on, we can't get credentials to go and we got cameras. And a motherfucking can come in there and do this and he's fine.

Oh, y'all crazy as hell. Shout out to Yovan Buhal with the steady hand. Oh, that's crazy. He didn't even have the accessories. Yo, that's crazy. He didn't even have the accessories. Yo, that's fact, bro. I do need a media credential. Y'all can just come in here and just... I do need a media credential. I do need... Yeah. iPhone, very powerful camera.

I mean, and then, too, like, Atlanta Hawk, come on, man. Y'all got the Target hangers now? Come on, upgrade. Not even the heavy duties. This is the NBA, man. You got them cheap-ass hangers from the come on upgrade not even the heavy duties this is the NBA man he got them cheap ass hangers for the 99 cents so at 2 26 a.m eastern this morning LeBron posted this cryptic tweet this is just hourglass says 11 26 that's west coast time he was on the east coast I believe

on his way to Boston after that Hawks loss uh The Lakers are 7-8 this month, 24-25 this season, and tied with the Jazz for 9th in the West. Gil, you're a resident Lakers fan, so I'm going to start with you on this one. Are the Lakers cooked, or can this season be saved? Well, you said it's 11-26? That was 2-26 a.m. So why is it 11-26 then? Because we were on the West Coast, and we grabbed that from... Oh, you grabbed it. Okay, you grabbed it. From our West... No, I did not, Gil. I don't have that technology. Oh,26 a.m. So why is it 11.26 then? Because we were on the West Coast, and we grabbed that. Oh, you grabbed it.

Okay, you grabbed it. From our West Coast. No, I did not. I don't have that technology. Oh, I was going to say, okay. I was going to say, well, then that means he didn't tweet it because somebody else from his account who's on the West Coast did it. Because obviously if he was on the West Coast.

I know you're just starting to get active on Twitter, but when we're on Pacific time and we see the tweet, we'll see it at our time. But if he's on a different time zone. Okay, just checking. I don't want you to just put just you don't just put things on the Kings name like that It came from his account listen. I know you know that he runs Very well a Rashad what that means? What that mean what he put up there? What does that mean?

Tom's up Come for who for who? For who? Yeah, for who? I told y'all I was going to be nice. I told y'all I was going to be nice. I'm not going to be a hater no more. It's not about hating. Just ain't about hating. Just not going to be a hater no more.

We're not going to hate. It ain't about hating. Ain't about no hating. It's your opinion, right? It's your opinion. Well, that was not be a hater on the GOAT conversation. I could still be a hater on the goat the goat conversation that I could still be a hater on the 2024 24 25 lost land Los Angeles Lakers the one that won the end season tournament you motherfuckers in here

They're hearing this shit better now all of a sudden you motherfuckers is sweating ain't even Fuck you sweating folks fuck is you all nervous for a while sweating because they're all right I got that to say that nothing about my teammates you nigga, please Get that shit out of here ain't nobody's fault but the leaders So leader on the team leader front office penalty of leadership, I'm what niggas want to be in shit Not gonna say the rest It falls from the head all the way down. So if you can't motherfucking take accountability for how the ship is being stirred and how the fuck you're moving, the pressure's fucking on.

Pressure's fucking on. Don't blame nobody fucking else. It's you and AD. Ain't no fucking Austin Reeves getting no fucking blame, no Cam Reddish, no Torrin Prince, no Rui, and nothing. Fuck it.

This is the team you fucking won the in-season tournament with, ain't it? He's fucking cheering and thinking, oh, we got it. Woo, woo, woo.

Underdog. Underdog fantasy. Who you going to cry to now? Who you going to replace him with now? Who you going to bring in to save the day now? Damn Gina Damn we got to bring in more people we got the best player in the world

So what the Lakers need to do? Leave me the fuck alone? I'm just, I'm pretty, you know, I don't know. Ladies and gentlemen, the evil black history. I'm trying to figure out. Leave McKitts alone, Lakers. I know he said a whole lot of stuff. I'm trying to figure out, so what is the time, what is the hourglass mean? We still waiting for that? What does it mean though? Yeah, that's what we asked. What does it mean? Somebody gotta go. Oh

Brian Jenny bus Fucking Austin Reeves the coach so somebody Jack Nicholson somebody No, no, no, Jack Nicholson. Somebody got to go. No, no. No Jack Nicholson slander. Somebody got to fucking go, right? No Jack Nicholson slander. Anytime he mad, somebody going to get the fuck up out of there. No Jack Nicholson slander. They already did Andy Garcia dirty.

I'm just saying. I told you I wasn't going to hate on the nigga no more. They already betrayed Andy Garcia. I'm not going to hate on the nigga no more, but goddamn, man. Shit. What y'all want me to say? You ask me a question, I'm going to answer. Brandon, are the Lakers cooked or can this season

be safe? Uh, man. I don't know. I think the Lakers are cooked this year. I think this year the Clippers are probably gonna represent for L.A. I root for the L.A. boys, you know, for the Clippers. So,

whatever happened with the Lakers, that's just on them. I mean, they won their championship. It was a... For this year. No, happened with the Lakers, that's just on them. I mean, they won their championship. It was a... For this year. No, for this year. No, it was 2020. Like, it was December. It was 2023.

They just gonna have to regroup, though. They're gonna have to regroup from top to bottom, so they'll figure it out, though. It's the Lakers, man. You mean rebuild? Rebuild? We the Lakers, bro.

We don't rebuild nothing. No, you can't. We're like a drug cartel. You chop one head off, we're going to get more. Okay? We'll trade anybody for anybody. Okay? Everybody must go. So everybody go?

You better look at our history. You better look at our history. Look at our history. Is no human being on that roster safe? Hell, no. What? It's the Lakers, brother. Okay, I see. Right? Was anybody else in history save was uh Was Eddie Jones was Eddie Jones all-star save you know, we got somebody below you that's younger get out of here

Okay, right D'Angelo Russell and D'Angelo Russell, Randall, and Brandon Ingram is probably the only three all-stars on the team since what? Bynum or before that? It was a Laker draft since James Worthy? James Worthy. Kobe was drafted by Charlotte and traded. He was traded. Okay, so that don't count.

But it was a good trade. No, it was a perfect trade. Russell was the youngest person besides Magic to be drafted by the Lakers and make an all-star game. We traded him the fuck out of here. So we trading fool's gold

for real gold. Mm-hmm. So, we asked the chat, are the Lakers cooked? Cap. We ninth place right now. I mean, 75% said they are cooked, Gil. Yeah. Because they don't know it's not top eight now, it's ninth.

Oh, now you're supportive of the play. I'm not kidding you're borrowing We knife however we get in there. We knife win a couple games We got the HC and then in the HC we played Minnesota in the HC New York what? Out of there swept Sweep they don't sweep the letting our Lakers getting one Now Lakers get a game sweat swept They gonna sweep the... No, Lakers getting one. No, Lakers get a game.

Swept? Swept? Rudy Goldberg trying to stop who? Anthony Davis? What? Park it. Huh? And then Anthony Davis gets to play, what, regular defense?

Because Rudy Goldberg is not going to be like Jokic and challenge him. So he gets to play one side of the ball. So he's going to dominate that series. Then LeBron James. No, Anthony Davis got a guard. No, that's LeBron James. Hey, he's playing NBA 2K. LeBron James not Anthony Davis got a guard. No, that's LeBron James Hey, he's playing NBA 2k LeBron James. There's guard who? Anthony tell huh with Andy Davis back there because you got Rudy go, but bruh, we've run into many They ain't getting that call they ain't getting them calls what is wrong with y'all or getting them calls park it

Okay, no calls Carl Anthony Townss against Braun and that good luck to me Just have a Jimmy just have a Jimmy Butler shirt under that motherfucker. So I'm gonna Jimmy did to him in that practice Then went on TV What are you talking about? I mean, it's come on man in the playoffs. I mean who gonna do something Anthony Edwards, huh? Anthony Edwards, you're gonna have to do what you gotta do. I mean, I mean what you mean? You don't have to do what he gotta do. I mean, what you mean? He gonna have to do what he gotta do. He gonna have to do what he gonna have to do. Right, I'm not saying he gonna start.

He gonna average probably 28 to 32. What Kobe gonna do? Kobe gonna do what he gotta do. Yeah, that's our Kobe. That's our Kobe. Superstars take over and Lakers got, what, one and a half? And Minnesota got one? Trust me, we get the eighth spot and we play Minnesota trust me we happy didn't a motherfucker and the league is happy to

There's gonna be upset Yeah, I said that they gonna have to blow their fuck right we don't want to be right after that sweet bigger I don't want to be seven to play Denver. We want to be eight and play Just like I said that shit last year. We wanted to play Golden State. No, we wanted to play. No, we wanted to play them young boys down in Memphis. Y'all say, oh, no. And obviously, they're not mature enough to get calls in the finals.

Come on, let's set Laker jersey, baby. So, Gil, on the topic of getting calls, despite all the uncertainty in Laker land, the team has done a good job of getting to the foul line this season. Hell yeah. That's how we roll. Don't throw that clip up. We got a little.

So they may be lasting drives with the basket, but they are first in free throw differential. For comparison, OKC leads the league in drives per game at 62.8. Lakers are seventh in free throw attempts this season at 24.6 per game. Okay. So Rashad, you saw this post on IG. You commented, this is scary. Why do you think this is scary for the Lakers? Yeah, it's not for the Lakers. It's for the people watching and the league. For the national basketball station and the fans. Yeah. It's like for every other team watching, like damn, they attack the basket the least and they get the most calls Are you serious? That doesn't sound right?

What? They attack they attack the basket the least most in the league. Uh-huh, and they get the most free throw calls You play basketball, right? Yeah, I mean you literally played I see the dude. I seen you in the national championship I see you on the cover. I'm not very good, but I see you I see you literally played I see the dude. I seen you in the national championship. I see you on the cover I'm not very good, but I see you I see you not very good No, what I'm saying is I see you play this game. I got a low IQ I really don't know what I'm saying. I see you play the game though, right? You do right there right there just like this the McCann's right won a champion like I seen that so I know you play this

game and you So I know you play this game and you, this, you, you don't understand the game to the point where they're old. So they don't drive how they get fouls. You ever heard of post up? That's not a drive. Pick and roll dump off. That's not a drive.

Lobs. That's not a drive. Back doors. That's not a drive coming off screens and slashing cutting. Those are not a drive. Coming off screens and slashing, cutting, those are not considered drives. So Anthony Davis is not a drive means past the three point line driving in. This is a team that plays in a half court, so they're not going to have a lot of drives. But because of Anthony Davis post up and LeBron getting to the rim all the time, they're going

to get the foul calls. So yeah, they can be last in drives, but first in free throws because of how they play. I mean, that's... Makes sense. I'm pretty sure if you play basketball, that does make sense, right? I think that's why Minnesota Timberwolves complain about how they don't get no calls, and they drive the ball to the basket. Who posts this up on Minnesota?

I'm not talking about posters. I'm just talking about drives. Like Anthony Edwards driving the ball. Like, ah, that's a foul. Ah, that's a foul. Ah, that's a foul. I'm not getting no fouls. Why? Am I not getting any calls?

Why? Am I not getting any calls? How many people jump with Anthony Edwards to foul him a lot? No, not a lot of people. You got him coming through the lane. He's not going to jump. SGA tried. Let's try it like this. Let's try it like this.

Embiid is ranked 66 in drives. Right? We know where he catches the ball at, right? Yeah. So he's 66 in drives. He's number one in free throw attempts. Because how he plays the game, he's not driving.

Right? The free throw to the basket is not a drive. Just because you're driving to the lane, don't mean you're going to get the call. But I'm just saying, just the idea. He leads the league in free throw attempts, but he doesn't drive. Like Shaq led the league in free throws no drives cuz he's not pulling a ball full court He's just posting up. That's not a consider to drive or mid post. That's not drives So you have to like when I see stuff like that, it's like, okay

I know what you're trying to do, but just look at the stat itself I'm trying to do nothing just look weird. And that's what I said, and it's just scary That's kind of scary that the Lakers as bad as they are I'm trying to do nothing just look weird and that's what I said and it's just scary though That's kind of scary that the Lakers as bad as they are Get to get the most calls for my house like the differential is there's a reason to think about it like this 100% Lakers is ranked the last in three-pointers, right? They're going to be ranked last in three-point attempts, meaning that every team is going to out-shoot them from the three-point line. So if you're shooting a bunch of threes, you're not getting to the free-throw line, right?

So we've seen them play against Indiana in a, what's the name of the game? What was Indiana doing? Chucking threes. What was Lakers doing? Driving to the basket. So obviously, if they're playing against who? Golden State, right? Golden State is going to do what? Chuck threes, what was Lakers doing? Driving to the basket. So obviously if they're playing against who? Golden State, right? Golden State is going to do what? Chuck threes.

And Lakers is going to get to the basket. So there's going to be certain teams where when they play against those teams, they're going to dominate the free throw line versus the three-point line. I got it just in case. Because I know you have my thing, but don't worry about it. I saw your notebook. You came with a new...

That stat is crazy, though. Hey, stat, man. That stat is crazy, though. That stat is crazy, though. Let me cross-reference with my little notebook. You stopping the game a lot. Right. Okay, so Portland.

So Portland, right, they shot 37 threes, had nine free throws. Right? Portland, right? It's a bad team, right? So Lakers take advantage. They got 37 free throws out of that game. That's a big disparity, though.

No drives, though, right? Hey, whoo! This is not a drive, sir. This is not a drive. I just asked you a question, bro. I didn't... You don't gotta... I just asked you a question.

No drives, right? No. Okay. Just say that, bro. You ain't gotta do all that. I just wanna know if you know the difference between how, right? No. Okay. You didn't say that, bro. You ain't got to do all that. I just want to know if you know the difference between how you get it. I do. That's why I asked you.

You said no drives, right? No. So you're saying they had to, you put out the stat. Yeah. Stat, man. So I said no drives, right? Yeah. Okay.

That's all you had to say was no drives. Gee, I ain't. They post up. Come on, bro. Detroit shot 36 free throws. They had 14 threes. The Lakers had 38 free throws over there 14, right? There's only four teams that make it look this bad Then you got Toronto, right? They shot 13 free throws, right? They only got one person who actually tries to drive right and

Lakers shot 36 free throws so there are 23 more free throws because of them. Another bottom team, right? So that's bottom teams, right? There's only four. And then you got basically Golden State. They shot 16 free throws to the Lakers 43. Damn. And Golden State shot 58 threes. So if you're shooting 58 threes,

there's one thing you're probably not doing, right? Going to the free throw line. Does it mean one thing you're probably not doing, right? Going to the free throw line. Does it mean driving? They're not driving either, right? Golden State's not driving. No, Golden State is driving. Golden State is driving. So they are driving.

They're driving, kicking out the threes. But they're not getting fouls. Because they're driving, kicking it out the threes. Okay, but the Lakers are not driving, and they're getting fouls because they're posting up. Yeah, yeah. You know how, like, Embiid posts up, and he gets and they're getting fouls because they're posting up. Yeah. You know how like Embiid posts up and he gets a whole bunch of fouls? I'm just trying to make it clear so the math's for me. Okay, so here's the math.

Embiid is ranked 66th in drives, driving the ball. He's 66th. He's number one in free throws. So how does that math work for you? How can he shoot this many free throws without driving? Oh, that means he's playing below the three-point line and attacking from there, which is not considered a drive, right? Picking pop is not considered a drive. Posting up, slashing, those are not considered drives so if he's getting fouled at the basket without driving to the basket right so most of your big men are not gonna get but as far as golden state is concerned they're driving and kicking to threes and not getting any calls why

would you get a driving and kicking i'm just giving an assessment based on what you're saying driving and kicking for golden driving and shooting a three driving and shooting a three, you're shooting a three, how can you get to the free throw line? I'm just asking questions. Most of Curry's free throws come from getting fouled at the three-point line. They shot 58 threes. Do you know how many? That's a lot.

That's a lot. How can you get to the penalty if you're shooting 58 threes? So you're complaining. It makes sense. You're complaining about not getting fouled, but you're shooting 58 threes No, it makes sense We got it, but it just don't make sense that the Lakers who are not driving and they're only posting up But they're still losing the teams not based on We got a Guess at the door. Sorry to cut this conversation short. Uh-oh.

The legend. Special guest entering the arena. Burst on the basketball scene in 2003 when he joined the M1 Mixtape Tour and one of the most legendary street ballers of all times. Now he's one of the biggest basketball creators and influencers in the game. Ladies and gentlemen, the professor. Welcome to Gil's Arena. What's up, legend? Woo-hoo! I like those sweats, man!

What's up, boss? How you doing? What's up? We got the Professor in the building. What's up with you, legend? Those are yours, right? Feeling good, yeah. Global Hooper. Yeah, give me that same pattern in drawers. Can we get a promo code?

No, no, no, serious. No, not like that. Not like that. Like, later on, I get to wear those. Like, when I walk by, it can be green, burgundy. You know what I mean? Just don't mind me. Whatever you need, bro.

Don't mind me. Whatever. I got Red Bull and goddamn coffee today. Yeah, we can tell. Man, we can tell. The double turn up. What's going on, Professor? So let's just get started with it, man.

How did you get on to the Ant-Man scene, and what was that experience like for you joining the tour and just kind of everything that happened in the aftermath after that? Well, to start off, I was actually a fan of it. I was actually in high school wearing Ant-Man head to toe, trying to play like Hot Sauce, Skip to Malou. They were like my idols. And then the VHS tapes were so big, they got an ESPN show.

So season two of the ESPN show, they had like a reality show. And season one was all about the guys, right? Season one was about the guys. Season two, they were like hunting for new talent. So they would have an open run, like an open trial in every city before the and one game. So I just went up there as a fan. I really was just going up there to check out the game

and I tried out. And next thing I know, got the crowd hype, got asked to go in the game that night. And then I'm going back and forth with Hot Sauce and then they asked me to go on tour. And then the summer, it was like a summer-long contest, you know. Like, there was three guys on the bus, like, on the tour bus at the time. And then every game, whoever played the worst goes home.

Gets replaced by somebody else from that city. What year was that? 03. 03. Yeah. That was sophomore. You were talking about high school? I remember all that.

No, in college. I remember everything. Freshman in college. Freshman. I remember that shit. Yeah. Oh, no. I remember You saw my I remember all that no in college. I remember in college freshman. I remember that shit Okay, watch you the episode and the whole nine. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, yeah, oh three I just I really was just going out there honestly as a fan and I loved it and then next I know I'd like turn into a career opportunity So so how'd you get the nickname professor and would you think about it the first time you heard it? Oh, Duke Tango gave me that name. That was the emcee that was, like, on the court with us. You know what I'm saying? Some of his sayings, people remember that more than some of the players.

You know what I'm saying? He'd be like, oh, baby. Oh, baby. Yeah. So he gave me that name. I think he gave it to me quick. I think, like, since the tour was, like, streetball commercialized, they'd give players names quicker the streets. It was like you had to earn you had to earn that over time You know I mean, so he gave me that name probably like my second game and I remember I heard it I even know if I liked it. I was like the proof like professors at work. You know, I mean that ladies like fit but uh

Yeah, you know what's the thing to be honest things were happening so fast funny story I always tell people the first time the show came on, I was hoping that I might press pause and they might put one of my buckets on there or one possession or something like that. I didn't even know it was about us. You know what I'm saying? So we're in a hotel in Jackson, Mississippi. The show comes on, and I remember just hoping I'd get a little bit of TV time.

The whole thing was about us trying out. I was on like 75% of the episode, and it came out, and then the next day, I remember we'd go outside. I couldn't go anywhere without fan pandemonium or whatever. So it was funny how it happened. Context, White Chocolate, Jason Williams. Yeah, yeah. Right?

He was doing his thing at the time. J. Will, yeah. Right? He was doing his thing at the time. J. Will, yeah. And you come on, and it's like you're like the second coming of white chocolate, right? So did you get any pushback from all the guys? Because we all feel like when a white boy come on the court, cook his ass. Right? So was that the feeling when you came out there? And it was like, I got game, but how do I get them to respect my game

that's my whole life that was last week too like literally uh but yeah I mean it was you know it's funny though I got a lot of that but I was so happy just to be there you know I mean that I wasn't like you know cuz like when you're older and you're on you'd be like I'll bust your ass you know but I was like so happy to be there I just when I get on the court I'm saying? But I was so happy to be there. When I get on the court, I'm very confident, but I was also a fan and kind of in awe of the moment. So I didn't think I even deserved to be there,

and I definitely didn't think I deserved to win it, but then it just kind of went like that. When you started cooking, motherfuckers, for real? Oh, it was a lot of controversy. There was beef. There was internal beef, but it was kind of on the show, too, though. They showed a lot of it, and then it didn't really wear on me, though, because I was happy, like there was internal beef, but it was kind of on the show too though. They showed a lot of it.

And then it didn't really wear on me though because I was happy to be there. Sometimes I'll get bummed because they were my idols. They didn't like something about me or something. But then they amped me up though. They were like, you got to talk some trash about it. You know what I mean? So like one of the episodes I remember during the intros, they were like, all right, as they're introduced, say something about every player. And then I didn't know how reality TV work

You know saying and they just that was on the next episode. So then they were like turning up the one games I locked up only score like four points or something like there to turn it up on your yeah That's crazy. Okay, because um Because you were new to it. So like you was it you then hot sauce? No, no hot sauce was always so hot sauce came before you right yeah the foundation to be honest like the there was an espn 30 for 30 and i wasn't even on it because it was about like the beginning of an one but the foundation was pretty much laid and then like when it went to espn kind of like went up a notch but i came on it i think it

started like 98 or 99 i got there oh three yeah, so like I remember like seeing something like it was like hot sauce just how he played the game took it to a different level right like It kept going to new not yeah so when when you guys were playing like did the older guys who felt like they started did they feel envious of like older guys who felt like they started did they feel envious of like You know I mean like if did they feel envious that you guys were getting all of this guy You know what I mean?

Just reality like if I've been on the team for five years right and motherfuckers ain't standing outside Then you know you come and then now here my old professor professor And it oh geez original Skip was one of the originators. Headache, all of those. Skip started it. So to answer your question, yeah, and still lingered today. Half Mad, Half Amazing.

I don't want to go too into it, but yeah, I mean. It's still some issues now. Yeah, let's go into it. Beef is eternal. Well, basically, to say what you're saying, so Skip was the first, right? Ant 1 Mixtape. Skip started Ant 1, you know? Or, like, I guess corporate got a hold of his foot in there.

They got a hold, and then they used that to kind of launch their whole brand. Skip started Ant 1, and then, like, it kept going to new notches, so then they went and got the best of all the some. Because that's what Ant 1 was, like, the best of, like, the Rucker, the best of, like, the Drew League, the best, you know what I mean? So, like, the top pro-ams. That's why it's hard to replace that you can't redo it now because it's like it's like those guys were at the top of every pro-am but they're also flashy so you entertain and be good

but yeah so then they went and got like the top in the nation so there was like more regional then they got the dudes from the west coast hot sauce and them came on volume three went to a whole new level because nobody ever seen Hot Sauce. They never seen those illegal moves, but it humiliated the D so bad that people couldn't get enough of it. Right. And then when it went on ESPN, that was another level. Then I came on there, it was a white crowd.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so that's kind of how that went down. But yeah, as far as the animosity, there was a lot. There was a lot as we went through it, because you said main event at half man half amazing they they really had to work hard for years to get their names and at the rucker and tournaments in new york and and you know they took a lot of pride in that right streetball legend it's like local legends like streetball legends and then we come on commercially we get a name two weeks right yes get rid of one of them and say well hot sauce but

every you know yeah I saw like a legend so it was like it was but it was like more like a Yogi's right like a Yogi's like they've been there trying to get their name and he was more like John went coming up okay I'm kinda yeah like okay it was like and I think they were like house those played a certain way Okay, okay. Kind of. You know, you just had it. Yeah, like. Okay. It was like. I think they were, like, house house played a certain way, too, and they didn't like it because they look at streetball as, like, pure, like, just basketball.

Like, summertime basketball is a little more flashy in the park, but they actually value themselves as, like, great basketball players. You know what I mean? Because they had money on it, probably, too. Well, yeah, yeah. It was different back then, right? The stakes were higher, and it was, like, harder. So then commercially, yeah, like, like well hot sauce blew up playing like you know doing the sauce 2k and flint you know all that like they didn't really know how to receive it but it benefited everybody that's what i'll say about the group as much animosity as there was at times

we're always we always come together during the game and like Everybody knew where it knew their place like in the game and to make it like max But like we play some games that were like perfect game like I'd never seen nothing like that still today Like it was a unique group like the original group. I'm saying like the first You know 99 to 2005 till it got bought out. Yeah. Yeah. There was more beef later. But that's the thing about, like, business, too,

and basketball, like, with anything. Like, even in the NBA, certain guys just become here and certain guys become, like, so it don't even matter. It's just, like, anything in life. They have any marketing behind it. I think the crew has started, like, you know, at Warren School and UPenn or something like that, but kind of even, like like the logos on the shirt. I remember when those first came out and people were passing those around.

But very strategic, very smart, obviously, you know, teaming up with Skip and kind of really hitting that level of culture. But the word commercial is the word we're missing. When you guys went commercial, the other guys who started it don't understand that commercial means we got a machine behind us now. We are being pushed in front of a bigger audience, which means that you guys set the fucking standard for us to take it to another level. But you're not a part of this another level because we are the ones that they're wanting to push. We got the flash and the dash that wasn't really set by Skip.

Skip had the Skip, but he ain't had a hot sauce shit. He ain't had a professor. But they was, like you said, taking it personal as far as they were real hoopers. Not Skip. He wasn't pro. Yeah, yeah. Skip was that finger in the heart. But what I'm saying is those guys were really hoopers.

They wasn't thinking about the commercialized side of the and one. They was really taking it serious as hoopers. They like, yo, I can really hoop. Alan Mo, I can really hoop. Sick. All of them, they really like, yo, I can hoop. But when it became commercial, it became like, oh, it's a whole nother side of this business we didn't even know. And they're benefiting from it and we're not because we didn't know about you know, you all are

Everyone's been I don't wanna you guys. You don't want to yeah, you guys don't want to grow. That's the point Yeah, so you're benefiting our bus is bigger. Thank you Our meals is better or we get per diem now because of us so you hate us, but you're benefiting from it right and you know, it was just like the NBA thing like I the machine sells this because it's sellable yeah right yeah you know yeah main event you you hold you held us down but your game the way you play doesn't translate to the fan base right those kids that's running up to this bus This is what they're this is the stuff that they're seeing more so most of those is marketable to handles as always Yeah, the handles are so I can I can sell this product. So yeah, you might be main event, but

These kids want this guy and this is the guy we're going to push you You just got to get in where you fit in Yeah, and I would say they've been Maine was killing it maine had a lot of fanfare too the the first few years so what happened is there was a buyout i don't know if you saw the netflix doc got more into like the bio but there was more to it than that doc being covered basically like in 05 they put us all in a room we just got finished with a game in japan or like a japan tour or something like that and so somebody with the company pulled us aside and they're like hey, you know The company's about to be bought out, you know

They're not gonna do the tour no more. So you should sign with me We should go do this other entity over here and we're gonna continue business and it's gonna be all good But we didn't really know what to think cuz it's like they you know, what and was I mean, we're not on ESPN so what happened was then like a week later, the day we were on the cover of Sports Illustrated, like they handed us the Sports Illustrated. And I remember somebody else tapped us on the shoulder and kind of, that's all I remember. But somebody told us that the company had been bought out and it was new ownership and we didn't really know what to think. So what happened was a lot of dudes signed with that person internally at the company they went sign with this lady and they did this thing

they called it a ball for real but my I was there's only a couple has had a manager like myself Escalade hot sauce did with households not the same manager at the time so we stayed with the company because we weren't we weren't just gonna hurry but sign there without talking to the new people like I'm still doing ESPN absolutely tour yeah don't know what's going on so they hurry up and they just sign right away you know i mean like like our guys didn't even have managers right like not as business savvy like they just signed they got that thing signed it gave back you know and they were for it was for bigger money too right so we held out and so the next thing you

know the team was totally different a lot of people I don't know if they remember but like oh five oh six the team was there it was like bad Santa Springs yeah that's the screen they were nice but it was different though it wasn't it wasn't as entertaining so me hot sauce and escalate were the only ones that stayed from the original regime in it I feel like it was still some great times and good events, but it never was quite as marketable as the first group. Yeah, the first group was special, yeah. Yo, so besides Skip Tamalu, right?

Yeah. Which N1 player you think could make the league? Could have? Yeah, could have made the league. Besides Skip Tamalu that you've seen. Skip obviously played the league, so. I actually think, like, a few guys had NBA talent. Like, talent.

A.O. I'm about to say A.O. A.O. for sure. Well, prime objective actually went to camp with two teams. He had a heart murmur or something. Yep, yep, yep. I'm biased because I have my own ego. I think a lot of guys were good.

I think, like, even Mane was really good. He might have been short positionally, but Alimo. Alimo, I was going to say, yeah. A lot of these guys, it's like they had a talent, but there's other things weighed in, like work ethic, ego, not getting in front of the right person that believes in them. You know what I'm saying? Like whether that's a scout or whether that's a school or whatever. But who am I?

I'm forgetting. I'm even sick with a guy MVP at the Drew League, you know. I know NBA is different. Sick with it from Pasadena? But, like, dudes were good, though. Like, Baby Shaq was, like, at a time, it's a short time period, and they didn't get as much shine as the early. It was more marketable the first few years on ESPN.

But I think a lot of guys were good. But some of those guys I named. I remember Ayo. I think Ayo tried out for Seattle. And what happened with him is he just wasn't in shape. He never lifted weights. He never lifted weights. Yeah, so these guys,

they're playing basketball, but the element that they need, so when he goes into a tryout, he has the game. I mean, you're talking about zero to, you know, that full court. Running cross over.

Yeah, that running cross was crazy. Now you put him in the workout and say, all right, we're going to go, go, go, go, go, and he's sitting there like, oh, shit. No way. I got to make my?

No way. I got to make my? Right? No way. You know, so that's what ends up happening with him. And I think that was at a time, because, like, he was in the G League, right? He won a championship in the G League, and he was more in shape then. But I think at that time, Antoine had taken off so much that they're like, man, we're

getting this started, and we wouldn't even get in the league. And people always ask about me in the league. I was like, man, Antoine was so crazy. It was hard to try to go a different path at that time. Yeah, absolutely. So I think when A.O. got that tryout, he was out of shape at that time. We partied just as much. It's one of those, if you gave them like,

all right, we're going to say you've got three months to get ready for this tryout, it's easier, right, versus like, all right, next week you're going to try for the what's-her-name. Like, ah, it's too late. And they were, to be fair too, I came out when I was 18. Everybody was, I think the second youngest person was 28. So they were 28 to 30. I think half was 35 or older when I first got on there.

Yeah, the group was old as hell. That's why they was hating on you. Were they bad influences? I mean, what was it like? Y'all traveling around the country, did y'all feel like rock stars? I almost feel like Amway was kind of the new wave Harlem Globetrotters in the sense, right? You're entertaining, you're bouncing around all these spots, barnstorming. Did you feel like rock stars? And being 18 with guys 10, 12, 15 years older than you, did you feel like they were kind of a negative influence as you were making that journey into adulthood?

Yeah, like who was the saltiest nigga? Morally? Like who was the saltiest nigga on the bus? Like, who was the saltiest nigga on the bus? Like, always just complaining. I think it was, like, half man, half amazing. He was always salty. Just that. Like, you know, we had a lot of, like, it's hard to say.

But, yeah, I mean, morally, yeah. I mean, we used to party, chicks, you know. All that. Going hard, you know. I think the older you get, you're always involved. So you can look back and say, ow. But we was having fun, too, at the time. You know what I mean?

And salty as though? I don't know. Everybody. No, it's hard to say, man. We had a lot of. Is it a lot of salty? No, hell no. There's no way in hell I start in with Mixtape One.

No, but that's the thing. Then you have a group. You have a group of salty. It had to be a group of salty ones. I feel like the old ones were salty. Most people were having fun most of the time but i think yeah like like hot sauce playing that new style me being from the suburbs just got on there like a kid you know like they may have felt some level like the commercialization was weird but everybody liked how it benefited them though so yeah but y'all got it guys actually showed me love i had some beefs or whatever but we're y'all making the same amount of bread where people like yourself figuring out

how to really exploit the marketing side get better deals because i'm sure even like with a regular team damn professor getting all this bread i'm not but i think i'm nicer than him that's but they don't understand the business side of the game i think it was in our contract not to talk about finances so no i think there was different levels of okay yeah but yeah it was in our contract not to talk about. So, no, I think there was different levels of. Okay. Yeah, but it was funny when it got bought out, we had bigger deals. When it got bought out, we had a multi-six-figure deal, and then we were allowed to make money outside of it.

I almost made a million dollars in 07. But that was like by the, it was on the down slope, right? 08 was the last year. Okay. But, no, I mean, I think Hostiles probably got paid the most. I mean, Skip, by the time I got there in 2003, I only played five games with Skip or something like that. Yeah.

He was kind of, he had to let go of his street ball image for the, it used to be bad, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. People don't understand. I used to play the CBA. I was trying to make the NBA, but it was bad. I couldn't get an in because it was like you already labeled like a circus hoover. I was there to help sell tickets. Then I worked my way up into the starting lineup

People always back. Oh, yeah, she'd like you play like there was a misconception when and ones like the fans loved it for the show Yeah, but like dudes could play though. Like well, that was hard with skip skip Is that what it is? Do you think hot sauce do you think hot sauce style of the carry? do you think that's what the Hoopers was mad about? Because even though it was getting popular, it was getting popular around his style, and the style of his carrying and doing this, and even though it was getting popular, you're like,

well, this is circus basketball when the other 11 players are Hoopers. Do you think that was the... For sure. For sure. Yeah, and some of you guys might feel about the legacy of it today. Because even today, if you say and one, you might... Some people would think illegal moves. Even if I post today,

I feel like that's still on me. No matter what. I get a perfectly legal play. You know what I mean? I could just go between somebody's legs, snatch them, and they'd be like, man, that's got to carry the ball. Maybe that's social media anyway, but I think that's still a step up. There's a lot of haters. Let me ask you this.

How does your game translate from that to the game that we would play? We go play pick up. We see you over there. Are we picking you up? And what does your game look like when we pick you up? Because the first time we see the carry, hey, man, hell no. That's a fucking carry going this way. So to eliminate that out of your game, what does your game look like?

Oh, well, I was always a hooper first. That's what I'm saying. Not a lot of people know that. That's the thing. I think a lot of people think, even on mine today, it's like they think I have to carry to be good. But I do that because, like, you're trying to make it go the distance going viral. You know, so it's by choice. But, I mean, I'm confident.

You wouldn't pick me up. I'm asking. Because I know I've seen you I've seen you hoop for real oh so we went on tour together and it's like I'm looking like all right how do people know because these these young they don't know what's what's yeah what's fake anymore so if you show a lot of the shit that you're doing now they thinking that's how you play right and if you go hoop with the NBA guys we locking that shit up because we not allowing the carrying shit in the throw between the legs, but it's like alright

How are you in the pick and roll on the side? How are you coming down? Are you dominant bitch like Jason Williams? Like what's your game look like? I mean, I've Shook up NBA players on film before like a decent amount. I'm confident my game Who you shook up Daryl Armstrong Josh Shelby? I mean... But honestly, like... You say that very aggressively. He'll give you that work, too.

He will give you that work, too. Just like I'll give you that work. Nigga, you don't play no defense. I'm a Bucs legend. He'll give you that work. That's the professor over here. Bro, let me teach you a lesson over here. I'm waiting on the football jersey. That's the professor over here. Bro, let me teach you a lesson over here.

My money on the professor. I don't hold the viewpoint that I should have been in the league. I don't hold that viewpoint. I just sometimes get bummed out that the narrative of the basketball level is so low sometimes publicly. So that's all to say, those highlights don't mean you make the league, right? But Antwon was a lot higher level than people think. So I think my program, I would have been confident.

I played against, I scored on Drew Holiday before. He's pretty good. It's a workout, it's not the same, you know what I mean? It counts. Yeah. It counts for your legacy. So you'd be like Devin Chinzo out there. You got a jumper like that No, you got a jumper. Yeah, why the jumper, you know, it's one I just start world again for ten years

I just did moves Like I didn't shoot threes hardly just because like I said you I play it for the virality I'm play the game for the viral just start work on my jumper again. It's going back to it's fun But yeah, you need to pull up to The second I presented my other dog. I used to watch I used to watch the end one for Like, you know, we're looking at it for the moves. I'm looking at it for These guys are great at shifting people. Yes, right That mean, you know, like yeah, you know, you can see that this is real and it's not staged

So how you keep throwing it between his legs back to back to back? So I'm watching it for that detail purposes. Like what are you doing to push him through the legs? So now what I, what helped me is I'm looking at, okay, you want to throw between his legs. So you go here, shift here, right?

He has to switch his legs, come back. He reopens, boom, right? Then he has to open up, snatch him back, right? and I'm sitting like oh So that's what I was studying. That's funny that you even know that though cuz think about that's untaught right like people Like I know how to like because usually like with a nutmeg or something Yeah, even in the NBA they'll when it's available and they do it But I don't know how like like think of Steph Curry do that or if Kyrie knew that footwork, right?

I don't think he does though right cuz he might be able to do it three times in one position. Yeah crazy Yeah, so yeah, it's kind of like an untapped art and he's looking at the feet like that's what I said I'm just looking at oh, he's making his feet move. Yeah, and when those feet move, it's like oh he's throwing it in Danny's, uh, then he's doing it again like bone collector do this shit like it's one two three four It's easy for him and I played 21 we playing 21 one day and we had a big month of like six seven He's like I'm locking that shit up. I say hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey, hey be careful. Be careful with and he hit them So we talked about and one impact on the culture we all remember going to, Foot Action. Sure. Forget how much bread you had to pay. I know it was a simpler time.

1999. But if you bought a certain amount of product, they give you the tape for free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sitting around watching the VHS. 1999. So what impact did N1, the mixtape, and the mixtape tour, do you feel like have on basketball culture?

I feel like it influenced the style of play it's not just that right but i feel like yeah i feel like it influenced the overall guard style of play today like i meet nba players they're black oh you were like i don't know when that happened right they're like you were a legend i watched you growing up like whether it's kairi or whoever so i think it influenced the way yeah i way the game is played, like indirectly. Like nobody really... No one gives you credit for it. You talk about it a little bit

on that Netflix doc, but I feel like it's not stamped, right? Like nobody really says it. It should, but I mean... It is. I think it is. I think that's the biggest thing for us. I mean, I know when I was 11,

that was the first time I saw anyone mixtape. That changed my life. So you would be the first... Yeah, like the first time I saw anyone mixtape was I was 11 years old. We was in the gym and I saw Skip with mixtape so that changed my life. So you would be the first Yeah, like the first time I saw anyone make sure was I was 11 years old That's all we German I that's all skip to my Lou come down and was I'd like that changed my life So without and one mixtape, I mean the basketball wouldn't be shit That's what I'm saying, so I'm in high school, right?

That's what I said when I'm in the NBA you're talking about 2003 4 or 5, right and I'm trying to work on my craft as a guard. Think about the guards then. It wasn't really... You had Mulberry. The only move Mulberry did was, and then go baseline left. And then, you know... We had AI.

We had the commercial crossover for AI translated right into... No, but they took that away from him. No, I'm saying... They took that and he had to do the crab, between the legs, between the legs. So Jason Williams had the he had the commercial legal version of AND1.

So from there it's just trying to remember these guys are older, so I'm younger trying to figure it out, so the group behind me is the one who's adapting all this tricky stuff. From 99 to 2000 that was freshman year high school sophomore year high school i remember like this yesterday we used to literally or not we i used to literally sit in the middle of the driveway and just practice and do what practice the moves

practice you can't do one move right that is crazy you ain't working on Crazy Is it obvious Bob game No, no Was not watching. He was watching main event doing dunks. I had the cross first. He was stomping. That's all I was doing. He was popping, jab, go dunking. He wasn't putting that stick between his head.

He wasn't doing all that. He wasn't doing that. He was this dude right here, drive. And then he was going to the one, two, pull. Look, look, look. Look, look. Look, because they watch YouTube too much Right take this thing in a box. I'll get what they have guests on the show. They are teaming up again This man they go to between If you watch him play he gonna hit hit jab you put your arm out he gonna go under he gonna pump fake He was machine like in his move and one he wasn't out here doing this and not come on

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and pop it up like. Get a ball right now. Get a ball right now. Let me see you do an one-one-one. Pat the Rock used to try to teach me how to do it. I just didn't know how to do that. Really? Pat the Rock.

Professor, where ball at? If my niggas from the hood could speak. Where ball at? We can get them on the show. We can get them on the show. Your room better not have an one-one-one. These tally niggas got one-two-five shit. You better not have one-two-five shit. Could speak that where ball at Niggas got this shit fucked up. Hey These sunshine state man, he can already told us he said his coach gave him Kobe Bryant

He said he gave him Kobe Bryant. He gave him Vince. Regular ass pump fake job. He didn't say none of that. Who's that? You better not have a section of N1 in your room. I can't go to Foot Locker or Foot Action and get mixtapes on his own dime. Did you have an N1 mix? I had all of them.

You had all of them? I had all of them. For what? For what? For what? To be the number one shooting guard in the country. He wants that, though. To be the nigga.

He wants that. I'll give you everything you want, nigga. Three. Handle. Pick and roll. Post up. Dunk on your ass. All that, nigga.

You ain't got one holler of you coming down, throwing off the nigga's head. What the fuck you talking about? I used to throw that bitch off the glass. No, you didn't. Bang, bang, in the middle. Left hand, left hand. Ask him. No, it's before the left hand shot.

I believe that. Ambidextrous. I believe that for sure. You know what the word ambidextrous means? Yeah, I do. You can do both. You can do both. So, Professor, let's talk about life after N1.

You've become one of the most successful basketball content creators, really giving your career a new life, stay relevant, almost kind of like the Snoop of streetball, right? No matter how old you get, you're still going to be relevant to this game. But, you know, you've done that, all types of cool videos, but you're dressing up as Spider-Man, Bugs Bunny, amongst other things. We got some clips of you right now, Venice B. Fire.

The Bugs Bunny is still cooking. Still cooking. McKiss ain't never had nobody on the island like that. I don't know why he... McKiss ain't never done that. Hey, if you get cooked by somebody in a Bugs Bunny costume, you just gotta retire. Where is it at? Oh my God, and they be guarding so hard, huh? That move, that's the move right there!

Oh shit! The move, I'm gonna show you right, the move. And you actually look like Spider-Man. That's the move right there! With the feet, that's where the feet the move. That shift to the side. It's called the heel toe. If I had to imagine Spider-Man booping, I feel like that's a spot on representation. Hey, I'm not going front.

Hey, I'm going to go out there. Oh, my God. Lord have mercy. Jesus. That's an alien. That's an alien. That's fair. That is fair.

Was that your signature, Hesi? What? Yeah. That's an alien! That's an alien! That is fair. Was that your signature, Hesi? When you come out of a move and then you shuffle to the left. He split the leg. It's not quite like Bone Collector where he boom boom and then come and then scissor cut.

You went to the side and then took off. I feel like it somehow became yeah Okay, cuz I was every time I seen us like you step with it. Yeah To the side. Yeah, cuz yeah, how hard is it to play with a costume move? Oh Like impossible Is how to see really good 50% of 50% My homie actually

So about YouTube channel went viral with that was spot that spider video years ago And I always do it people think out some people think I'm just like a nerd I'm just like into stuff like that, but it was just going off though You know saying my homie was in the comic-con and all that he came up with that idea like let's do a prank a basketball Prank, yeah, you know saying we just shot it like 20 minutes Like took all that's how my channel took off so like to try to repackage it as of the other stuff with that idea, like, let's do a prank, a basketball prank. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We just shot it, like, 20 minutes. Yeah. And, like, took off. That's how my channel took off.

So, like, to try to repackage it, it was all the other stuff. No, very smart. But, no, you can't. I can barely, you can't grab the ball, can't see, can't do it all. Some of the things just meant to be. Like, they went great, but then others, like,

some videos I had to go out there, like, six times to get the... Okay. That's a part of the game. I could play, like, physical players. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They they try to take care of it. Let's talk a little bit about current NBA. Wimby made an appearance on Inside the NBA last night,

talked to Jamal Crawford about all the moves that he's got in his bag. Wimby, Jamal again, left court brought up that you brought up the sham guy. Can you do the Crawford double behind the back shake and bake? Can you do that move in a game? Yes. If you do, no hesitation. Not a doubt. No hesitation. Not a doubt. He said yes. Can you do that move in a game? If you do... Oh, no hesitation. Oh, not a doubt. Not a doubt.

He said yes. Can we see that this season? The coach I had in France, his name is Kareem, that taught me the sham guard, for example, he also taught me the double behind the back shake and bake. And this is something I'll work on. If you pull that out,

if you pull that out... Will you be first on cross-dial? I may have to show you the extended version I've never shown anybody but I'm a hand that gift to you because you can do it and you will take it to the masses Congrats, my brother I just think about Jamal Crawford for all these years just sitting on the extended version refusing to show it to any human being just mere mortals But considering his his height and age how impressive is when he's back to you? It's crazy It's crazy for him to come in the league even just be that skill But then also like he like nutmeg somebody right there. He sees me something like that. No, you're not me

Yeah, no mags. Oh, I mean Like you said he he'll met with a HOV lane or whatever. But yeah, who knows I mean, maybe you said, he's on the HOV lane or whatever. But, yeah, who knows? I mean, maybe he's the next GOAT. I feel like, look, it was like Jordan, and then the next year was Braun, right? Or Kobe overlapped him, and then Braun came. Maybe it's him. I don't know. He looks incredible.

If he can stay healthy, right? That's all. You know, I guess when you're talking about, likes, it's it's it's health, you know That's the biggest ways in and with him You gotta think his parents, you know that they taught him stretching at an early age, right? This is important. So you can see he's very flexible for You know for being so tall so he you know, but even with ball handling you talk about imagination Mm-hmm. You gotta have fucking imagination and the freedom to fucking pursue that shit, right?

So for him to go out there and hit a nigga with the sham guy, like. It's fake. As a hooper, like, you not thinking about I'm about to hit him with the shammy until the opportunity come. You like, oh, shh. Oh. No, I am. I am coming down. Do you have it scripted out?

Like, I'm. I am coming down. That's why he was turning that bitch over. I was all 50 I've never turned up. I've never turned the ball over doing a sham got never but did you know is the Tennessee in the defender? Like I can't I can't he was turning that bitch. I can hit him with this random with that and they won't have done for it Yeah, you can always tell like even AI before he did his cross. He might do a baby one. Yeah You can feel out the defender and see how they are. Or on a different possession, you can see how he's standing or how he reacts. And he'll be like, oh, he's going to go for this one next time down.

So I think I'm like you. I'm like sometimes I think of what to do in my head and then other times. Especially certain bigs. If you come off a pick and roll, you know he got two feet. It's like, come on. You know which ones to pick on. Yeah. And what's funny is people don't understand that when you're a master at something, right, got no feet. It's like, come on. You know which ones to pick on.

What's funny is people don't understand that when you're a master at something, you've already dedicated yourself to how people's feet move. Even though you're dribbling, once someone's feet turn a certain way, you already know what move to do. I don't think people really understand. When you're talking

about the details, I can throw you a ball right now. Boom. And then grab. You're going to instantly know, okay, he shifted this way. His by this way. I know where to go. Right.

So when I'm sitting here doing a move, like you can see Kyrie, he's sitting there. Boom, boom, boom. And all he's doing is just waiting for one shift. One mistake. One mistake. So he can boom. Oh, gotcha. And people don't understand that.

That's the detail. When you get into certain levels. This is how this person gets from here. So when we say, yeah, he's good, but he's not, he doesn't have an IQ, right? And that's where the IQ comes from. When you start detailing someone's footwork on how to get past them, shot, shot release, and that's when you get to expert mode. But that's in real time too.

That's in real time. Not just in there, oh, I'm dissecting the game from the film, but it's like in real time, can you convert that shit? See the mistake and be like, oh shit, okay, next time down, I'm about to wham, wham, wham. We got that Wimby Nutmeg just for reference purposes and because we enjoy watching basketball highlights.

Throw it up, man. Watch this dude. Come on, man. That's different. This dude is wild. So talk about, obviously, streetball. It's a different culture, different game. But what current NBA player do you feel like would make the best streetballer?

Current NBA player? Best streetballer? let's see like like kill it and entertain is that what you're saying Kyrie right Kyrie or would Jamal Crawford retire so yeah we can go we can go for him to play yeah so Kyrie Kyrie because it was a different game too you know like an animal some NBA players are playlist and don't do good because it was about ISOs and looking for the lob. And then, like, back in that time, a three was like, like, be silent. Very proud of the puck. It was actually lame. Yeah.

So I remember because I came in more hooper first. You know what I mean? And I would play, like, some regular ball, and sometimes I'd hit that three, and then, like, there'd just be crickets in the gym. You'd feel like you did something wrong. They'd be like, yeah, we ain't coming to see that. We ain't coming to see no three. the gym feel like you did something wrong like yeah we ain't gonna see that yeah yeah so so yeah who would turn it out the most yeah probably like probably Kyrie for sure what about like a John LaMelo other guys oh dang you know these younger cats that's right John Morant John for sure oh

for sure for sure but also I would say though the reason it was harder to is cuz like every time Down was expected to be so so it's not it's a little bit different Not the flow of the game is like jock and elevate, but you're not gonna do that every time down So it almost be like how are you on the ISO over and over and over? Yeah? John don't have Bob Like no one of my Like you were gonna try to like to really entertain the crowd and kill somebody on an iso, it might be different.

And back then, the bar was raised to where it was like one move wasn't good enough unless you're going to dunk on somebody. You got to have a lot of moves. Oh! I remember sometimes, yeah, I even went, I crossed somebody over, went between legs just one time to the bucket and didn't get a crazy reaction, right? But that's why people want to talk about hot sauce and illegal plays, but dude was talented. Like, he hit you with, like, a four-piece or five-piece,

and they'd be losing it, and it was when they were waiting for it, you know what I'm saying, when they were expecting it, and everybody fouling. Streetball, we could, like, foul. I don't know why, but it always was. We could foul. It's crazy. That's the hardest thing in my career. It's called streetball. Yeah. Life is foul Jordan pool. Mmm

Yeah, I mean you do a hundred he did that yeah, you do a hundred moves Easy actually popularize it. I didn't make up that move, but I popularized that. Turn the back. Turn, boom, and go back baseline. Go back. He did it in the game. Yeah. Left side.

Left side. Stop. And go. Jamal Timsley. Hell yeah. I just saw his highlights. I just saw his highlights. I just retweeted his highlights the other day. Jamal Timsley.

On Twitter? Yeah. I've never seen those highlights, though. Yeah, Jamal Timsley'm in the game, right? I knew do was I was up to play streetball like to get off. I knew he was nice I know his highlights would you think about the pick and roll and go between the legs of the the pole? Yeah, whenever I talked about him I said I said back. Okay back in the day when we played there was We had they had full court pressing

Right full court pressing was a thing in the NBA. They thought they were college teams. My advantage was I'm just fast in everybody. Your little 2-2-1 press. Jamal, we're pressing. Slow bop. Between your legs. Boom.

Spin move. Between your legs. Boom. We sit in that line. Slow. He the legs. Boom. Spin move. Between the legs. Boom. And we sitting there like, slow. He didn't. He ain't speeding up for nothing. He's just nutmegging the whole team. And it's to the point like, yo, like he's embarrassing the fuck out of us over here, bro.

Like, ice him, ice him. Right? Going down. And he's just sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. Get close to the big. And the big step up. Between the legs, lay up. Like, yo.

Why is the NBA doing this? He was with Indiana. He was the first point guard I seen come off a pick and roll, look off the corner, freeze the corner guy, turn around, freeze the big that's rolling.

These niggas froze. He literally walked to the cup, laid that bitch up, up like in slow fucking motion But I remember him in Iowa State with Marcus Fizer. It was Marcus Fizer and fucking Jamal Tinsley Killing that bro. He's like yo who was what is these two niggas going? Timing timing his timing was great. That's a lot to patience patience for a word timing and confidence to like you got to understand Yeah, like with him is like he was he was so confident with the ball that he didn't get he didn't he didn't think he Was you know stealing it from him and he didn't turn it over. Never. He never turned the motherfucking ball over

Baron Davis was nice to it Baron Davis Down every time streetball. Oh shit me Played at the rock sick. Come down every time. Street ball? Ugh. Shit, me? I played at the Rutgers. Shit, you know, I gave niggas my... How about when I went overseas with them with, what was that, Baller? Oh, yeah, T-Mac. Yeah, T-Mac. It was Team T-Mac, Team Gil, but we were the roster, yeah.

That was super fun, bro. That was an honor. You're the type to show up at the 50. Did Gil pass? And that's exactly what I did. Gil going to give you 50. I said, I said, I said, I said. Say it again.

But are you giving Gil 50? No, say it give you 50. But are you giving Gil 50? No, say it again. Are you giving Gil 50? I don't know if I'm giving Gil 50, but I'm definitely putting him in the top. At the Drew. Gil was at the Drew. Oh, at the Drew? Yeah, if we're at the Drew, you and Gil match up.

Bro, at the Drew. When Gil fresh off, no injuries. Hell no. Bro, listen, I came to the Drew one time. Full go Gil. Full go Gil. I came to the Drew one time and scored over, Gil. Full go, Gil. Full go. I came to the Drew one time and scored over 100 points in two games and never showed up again.

Never showed up again. I was like, this shit. Half-time score, 55. That's it. That's Brian Russell. He was the captain. Where? Huh?

Where? At the Drew? No, what was the league before the Drew? Real run? The real run. Real run. Real run. Real run.

Real run. Shout out to Anthony. Ask Brian what I did. Ask Brian what I did. I was like, yo, G.A., you want to play? Come on in. Ask him. Real run. I missed that. See, I was just saying that. Real run. Shout out to Anthony. Ask Brian what I did. Ask Brian what I did. Yo, G.A., you want to play? Come on in.

Ask him what I did. 55. Real run. Hey, what I do on that tour? Back to back. It's killing. Go ahead and sit down. 55, 57.

Sit down. What I do on that tour. Went to China. It was all T-Mac. I ain't gonna lie. And then the next week, came in and killed cash for where to 55 60 Oh, you got no move everybody Everybody whoever wanted doesn't my LA Hoopers. They was talking about you

Kenny Bruner and him we're talking about you when we were on and one back in the day Yeah, they were saying you were killing it coming up. Hey, hey, man, Kenny Bruner man. I got no problem, bro I was just you know, I was just talking about Just high school basketball and everything like that. I respect your career man, I ain't got no problem, bro. I was just, you know, I was just talking about just high school basketball and everything like that. I respect your career, though. Thank you. We ain't got no beef, though. Brandon, you know, O-Haz, we stand on business.

Yeah, I know, but I know... Oh, Kenny? Yeah, he was like, oh, come on. What happened? Come on, man. No, he just said, like, I wasn't... Like, he was just going at me, but I was just like, come on, bro, like... We won a championship together.

Who? Me and Kenny. Yeah, no, that's... We was in L.A la when la when we did a run tell him I'm cold too man he was cold but I'm just different there was nobody he was not not gonna lie like no no no no no look I have a 35 no Bruno but see he wasn't like he wasn't that tight so that's why you can't fuck with me he was he was more like Jamal no he was more like Jamal T of... So that's why you can't fuck with me. He was more like Jamal... No, he was more like Jamal Tinsley.

So that's why you... No, no, no, the problem with it, he was like Jamal Tinsley, where he was so stocky, small, fast, and quick. They used to try to, like, trap him. He was untrappable. He was the one person that I watched that was literally untrappable.

You're like what, Steve Logan used to be? A little bit, but he... Like, I see him sitting there dancing, boom. And they like what, Steve Logan used to be? A little bit, but he, like I see him sitting there dancing, boom. And they come in, he trap, boom. Came back, dancing and I was like, yo, this dude is insane. And he was a defensive dude. So he's picking you up full. That's what I said when we was in Rutgers.

He's picking dudes up full court. Like, man, get him! That's why he felt like that. He felt like he'd shut your water off. No, he'd shut your water off. He'd shut your water off. Like he'd have you like section 8. No, he didn't shut your water off. Yeah, yeah. He didn't shut your water off. Mm. Like, he had you, like, section 8. I should have named him, too, when you asked me about it.

No, no, he had him, like, section 8, baby. I should have named Kenny Brewster. Yeah. No lights! There's no lights. No lights? Huh? There's no lights.

You know, hey, what I'm saying is, when I say no lights, you coming up with a candle, he coming and blow it out. Hoo! No lights. I said no lights! No lights on. No lights on. Lights out!

Lights out at 7 o'clock, Brandon! Lights out at 7 o'clock, Brandon. Lights out at 7 o'clock. If you notice, you want to call your mama, go call your mama, but I said lights out at 7. It's internal gang ups. It's internal gang ups. It's Black History Month, bro. It's the eve, Brandon. It's the eve, so get it out now.

Sorry tomorrow. Sorry tomorrow all the way through March 1st. Man. He said no lights. Lexi, we need Sorry, tomorrow. All the way through March 1st. I just, just, man. He said no lights. Hey. Lexi, we need more friendship bracelets. No lights. Lexi, we need more. Yo, I don't know what's going on.

Niggas, no lights. No, we got asses. Hey, and then, and then, and then, and then I got another issue, right? So, OK, all right, they want me to come to the Hall of Fame that they're putting me in the Hall of Fame, right? Right? Let's go. Let's go, baby. Yeah! Let's Let's go. Let's go, baby.

Yeah. Let it finish. Let it finish. Let it finish. Let it finish. No, we don't let it finish. Yeah. Because you know he want to go negative with it.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Stay with it. Hall of Fame. Let's go. Oak Hill. January 31st, Brandon. Get it out.

Leave it alone. Wait, January 31st? Today's January 31st. Oh, when is it, Oak Hill? Black History Month Eve. No, Black, get it out. Steve Spiel. Wait, January 31st? Today's January 31st. Oh, when is it, O'Kill? Black History Month Eve. No, Black History Month starts tomorrow. So tomorrow, I'm going crazy. No, no, I'm saying when is it?

For 28 days. No, what I'm saying is when is the Hall of Fame? Huh? It's supposed to be like March 2nd or March 3rd. But everybody's been getting like Stack Jack, Jeff McGinnis, I think KD, Ty Lawson. I think a lot of guys are supposed to be going down. Okay, yeah. You don't want to go?

No, no, he's going. We're going to keep hyping him up. He's, listen, shh. I don't know. He's still salty about the Cubs. Me not being top five really upsets me. Brandon. I can't.

Every day I wake up, I just can't believe that. But we got to move forward. No, no, no. I'm moving forward. I'm moving forward with my life. I mean, I just can't believe that. But we got to move forward. No, no, no. I'm moving forward. I'm moving forward with my life. I mean, I'm still doing great. It's just, what the fuck? So Tom's agreement is happening.

Is he mad y'all lost to D. Rosen then? We still won the national championship that year. We went 41. But he didn't want to lose the game. We still won the national championship. For me not to be top five out of O'Neal is just really. he said he brought you there to go undefeated though be damn like Gordon Bombay when he did y'all lost the D Rose in them. It was like He was supposed to be there. Oh, no, I got 28 days to think about it

Come on, hey, let's keep it. Let's keep this spirits high. We know how he gets we gonna we gonna keep Com.com This is your mom professor appreciate you pulling up we're gonna talk a little NBA if you want to stick around with us We know got a bounce we understand as well. I'll stick around a little bit. All right, there we go. So let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton. He's been one of the brightest stars this season, unlike the all-NBA pick, but his spot and bag may be in jeopardy. Halliburton has missed 10 of the last 11 games dealing with a hamstring injury,

missed 13 games this season, but is technically 14 because I think he only played 13 minutes in the game that he hurt his hamstring, had to be carried off the course of that game, does not qualify for it. In an interview with The Athletic, Halliburton had this to say about the player participation policy. So I think it's a stupid rule, like plenty of the guys in the league, but this is what the owners want. So as players, we got to do our job and play in 65 games if we're able to. So that's what I got to do, take care of my body, be able to play in those games. And I think you're seeing other players in the league kind of face the same thing as long as the owners are happy. So as you guys know, under the new player participation policy, you have to play in at least 65 games, minimum of 20 minutes in those games for it to count.

There is a little bit of wiggle room. There's two games where you can play at least 15 minutes and those games will count towards that 65 game minimum. Gil, I'm just telling you what the owners in the league did. It's not coming from Josiah Johnson. Give me your notebook. So, if Halliburton doesn't make an all-NBA team, that could cost them about $41 million so you can understand where this frustration's going.

We're going to play a little game of Facts or Cap. I'm going to ask you a question. Professor, we're going to start with you. Tell me if it's facts or cap the NBA player participation policy is a stupid rule facts or cap Hmm Cap okay, and why do you feel like it's cap? I mean there has to be some measurement of Participation there has to be a some level of participation. What do you feel like it's capped? I mean, there has to be some measurement of participation. There has to be some level of participation. What if you play 15 games and go crazy?

You know what I mean? Yeah. So you're saying that 65 is it whack? No, so that's what Halliburton's saying. The rule that these guys have to play 65 games to be eligible to be All-NBA MVP and get postseason award. The number could be lowered, you know what I'm saying? But I would say cap just because it has to be some rule, right?

I don't know. For sure, Rashad, facts or cap that it's a stupid rule? Facts. Because there should be a metric of the injury protocol, right? So if you do get injured and you're going to be out longer than games,

you can't control how long you're going to be out for that injury. And I think that's what Halliburton is alluding to, is the fact that I didn't ask to get injured, even though I take care of my body. You know, a groin is a groin. Imagine if it was a sports hernia or what CP dealing with, with the wrist injury. It should be an injury protocol based on that.

So if it's not injury-based, where it's serious enough for you to be out 10 or more games, then it should kick in. Because what James Harden was doing when he was in Philly, just not playing games, and then Embiid, we don't know if you're hurt or not, or you're just resting. What is it the injury is,

and if it's not based on something that's serious, that's keeping you out, because we always talk about being injured or being hurt You can play hurt Can't play injured. So the difference is how the burn was injured and now he could potentially cost him 41 million if he get injured again if he misses I believe four or three more games So I'm adding more games. He'll he'll pass the minimum. So imagine if he retweaked the hamstring. Yeah.

Like, that's a possibility. He just came back. Imagine if he did it last night, and he got to sit out another 10 games. That's 41 mil out of my pocket? Bro, you tripping. So 41 mil, my ass is going to be on the court for 20 minutes. Y'all going to move around.

We could do at least three minutes of court, something like that, yeah, for sure. Brandon, the NBA player participation policy is a stupid rule. Facts or cap? Cap. You like the rule? Yeah, like, play. Wasn't nobody thinking about this back in the day?

Wasn't nobody thinking about, oh, you had to do this, or guys wasn't trying not to sit out? So this is the reason where it's at. So get your ass up your ass up and play like this the American way. We don't care. Hmm Mr. Renis the NBA player participation policy is a stupid rule facts are kept It's it's a stupid rule because there's an easier way to do it Right. If you just say totals, if you just do totals, if you just do totals then you don't have to worry about how many games somebody plays because it's totals.

Because what ends up happening when you do points per game, you're going to always have someone looking at the end number, so like if you're averaging 35, even, and I'm averaging number. So, like, you know, if you're averaging 35, you know, even, and I'm averaging 34.9, right? If you don't play the next game, and this is the last game, and you don't play,

I'm going to play, and my teammates is going to help me get over that to beat you, right? You're not going to play because you're in the lead. Now, if you play and, you know, have five points because they put you in and subbed you out,

and you drop to, you drop to 34.7, I'm not playing. You're talking about to reach the 15-minute threshold? No, just to get the average, right? Versus if it's about totals, then your what's-his-name don't matter. The metrics that you're using don't matter because totals winning.

So like Embiid averages 35 a game. But total points, he ranks seven. Right now, if the season ended right now, Shea will win the scoring title because he has the most

points. He's playing. Reward the players who's playing instead of trying to take it away from the people who's not playing. Fuck them. If they don't want to play, they want to play injured or they get injured. That's nobody's fault. Then reward the guys who's actually out there every game.

Which means now, if I'm Embiid and I'm seventh, oh shit, I got some work to do. Right? Forget how many games I. I got some work to do. Right? Forget how many games I can. I got work to do because Shea's not missing no games.

And he's putting in them points. I see what you're saying. Because Embiid is playing at a higher level points per game wise and not necessarily total points. Night in, night out. He's having big games when he has big games to take his, ah, takes the point total why I mean the average up because he's had like the 70. What is the 70? Yeah 70, right? Yeah, that's 70 take him way up. Oh, yeah. So right now he's 200 something points behind Shay Well, yeah, you know you have the highest average, but you don't have the most points so he wins, you know, right?

So it now that right there keeps everybody assists records all of that Reward the person who has the most in total so you know because but right now that that 65 Thing issue is is saving and saving owners money And that's what you feel like is the that's all it is because if you're Indiana if you're Indiana, right? Do you would rather him miss all these games and not make an all-NBA so you can get him $40 million cheaper. That's what he's alluding to. Yeah, because at the end of the day,

he's all- Right, you know what I mean? I'm a small market team. I don't want to have to pay you. If I can save $40 million, think about where I can put the $40 million. Right. Because you probably ain't going to stay here anymore.

And they banking on you not playing that 65. Shit, I'm even enticing it. Oh, you know, we're not going, hey, you just, ooh, shit, ooh, that's real hot back there. I'm going to say whatever to keep you the fuck off the court. You still get to market Halliburton as a star of that team, even if he doesn't necessarily make an All-NBA team, and you save that 41 mil. We still- They benefit the same.

We got this All-NBA level player, but- Championship teams are built off bad contracts, right? The Bulls was built off of bad contracts, right? Steph Curry's championships was built off bad contracts. He hurt his ankle, right? They got him for cheap. They got his ass for cheap because of his ankles, right? So now he becomes this mega star making $55, $60 million, right?

So when Kevin Durant's coming up, they're low shit. We got max money Oh, we got we got we got we got we got max money because you know, the our best players not max Yeah, right. So here we can give you this right and you sign it for two years now Y'all both up at the same time and then we can go from there But I get that I get the rent a max player because I don't have that money capped off So, you know, this is this a chance, like with John Moran. He's $40 million cheaper, right? My super max player is not super max right now.

Yay. Right. Right? Hallenberg, my super max player, not super max. Right? So when you're talking about, I don't need super, so technically they can go out there and give them a super max player. Mm-hmm. So on record or on their stat sheet. Hallenburton is their second

Highest paid player so I said having two max. I got one super max of one max so he becomes Jalen Brown mm-hmm to Boston. Mmm. I got him, you know, my super max super super match is gonna be Tatum. It was just like 3 30 or something It's gonna be up there, man So I'm split decision on this I'm gonna say facts. So when it comes to player participation possibly being a stupid rule facts Well, let's keep this moving I talk about him bead after leaving the court earlier in the Sixers-Warrior game and returning, Embiid had a scary moment late in the fourth quarter when Kaminga fell on his leg.

And according to Sam Amick, Embiid might have had something to prove after people accused him of ducking Joker. So after that Joker game, everybody was saying he was ducking smoke, but Mike Malone did acknowledge that he did hurt his knee against the previous game against the Pacers. And B plays in this Warriors game. People within the Sixers organization believe Joel Embiid forced himself to play through injuries due to the scrutiny he received in recent days. And that's per Sam Emick. So we have a good mostly fans question from underdog user Flex Finesse. With the NBA having a 65 game minimum for players to qualify for awards,

do you feel as though that mandate is going to start having players potentially rush back from injury just to be able to qualify? We saw him get hurt again last night. Halliburton came back off his injury, but I know he feels the rule is stupid because I know he's three games away from not being able to qualify. And if he's not able to get on that all-NBA roster, he's going to miss out on like 40 M's. So I'm just curious if y'all think that this new rule is going to start having players kind of jeopardize their health just to be able to get awards get a hit contract incentives stuff like that appreciate y'all you tell me so with the nba 65 game awards minimum do you feel like that mandate will have players potentially rushing back from injury just to qualify of course just like any incentives in

in nba incentives right right, in contracts, like so people will do contracts and they're trying to save money on the back end so they put stuff in incentives, right? Like free throw incentives, drives, points. What ends up happening is you're trying to say play as a team, but you got one person

who contract is for individual stuff, right? So now you got one person who really don't give a fuck about the team aspect because he needs points. So I'll pass him. He has free throw clause. He's at the right percentage to get the two million, so he don't want to get fouled now. So he don't want to drive.

So he's not going to put himself in any position to go get fouled. He don't want to touch the ball. Now you're playing four on five. So same thing with this. Like if Hallie has to come in and do what? Right. If he's hurt, he ain't going to be playing hard. So he's just going to keep collecting these games in. So you're not going to have the same one. Right. So you're going to be losing games because he's not going full throttle. Exactly. Right. Now what ends up happening is if you have him playing full throttle and he hurt himself, right, your playoff, what's-his-name is in jeopardy.

So as an organization, you save $40 million in the long haul, and I'm pretty sure as an organization that's all you really care about. And he's not healing himself to be ready for the playoffs to help you win something because now he's just minimizing that threshold of 15 minutes per game. Or 20, I think. You're going worse than the injury. Yeah, I'm going worse than the injury. I'm not going to heal, and I'm just making sure I get this 40 mil.

So it's like, really, like you said, it's either the team or your individual stats. What is it going to be? Now it's like you're making a choice. Yeah, you are making a choice. Yeah, you are. 40 million. So I'm just asking you all, you all as hoopers, you got the chance to make 40 million.

Your hamstring feels a little janky. Are you still going to play to get that 40 million? It goes back to injured or hurt. Whatever it is. You got 40 million. I'm saying you got 40 million. If you can't go. If you can't go.

That's all I'm saying. I'm about to say 40. I got you, coach. I'm out here. For 40 mil. Let's say you hurt, but it could get worse. You can get that 40 million, though. What is the other four guys on the floor doing?

Are they encouraging you? Like, hey, bro, we know what you got. We trying to get their gifts. But if that's not the energy, we like, hey, bro, we know what you got. We trying to get that. We trying to get that. That's not the energy. We like, hey, bro, come on, man. Come on. But even that, that's selfish on them because they don't know what's at stake for you. I got 40 mil at stake. Y'all niggas need to understand.

I need to be out here. But then it's like, yo, that's our season at stake, too, bro. We want to win. So, like. I mean, you got to look at it like. Your boys is going to hook you up. We want to win. So, like... I mean, you got to look at... Your boys is going to hook you up. It depends on what boys. Like I said, co-workers, it ain't my homies.

We co-workers. Ain't no homies. It's my nigga, what's up? Nah, like, when we did, like, certain things where people needed, like, I need to average 15, you know, for the season to unlock two more million, and he had 14.5. As a teammate, we know that for the season to unlock two more million. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had 14.5. As a teammate, we know that.

Like, okay, so wait. So you need 22. I don't know if they're doing that. You need 22 tonight. I'm going to say they're not doing that. We were doing that back then. Yeah, I'm going to say back then, but they're not doing that. You need 22 tonight?

I bet. Were you doing that to the detriment of the team? Like, do you care about the wins or losses? Or I'm trying to just get you your bread and we can sacrifice this game? If we up, like, let's say we up by 15 and we know like I yeah okay but if we in the middle of the game uses like the last game like around that last game of the season there's like like for NBA's like senior night you know I mean so it's it's it's it's a thing but you know this it becomes dangerous

it really becomes dangerous because now no matter what you did the work you did you know like in bead right he's in he's the one that's in jeopardy right he's sitting there like if i play right now i'm half assing it yep so my stats is going to drop anyway because i'm half assing it i'm not going to look like an mvp anyway because i'm half assing it right so now i'm playing average 12 and 16 and this and this and people gonna be like oh yeah he's falling off but he still get the award but shit i should you play if he sitting here playing half-ass the whole time, shit, he could end up losing that award at the end of the season. He got how many more games?

Like 38 games? Yeah, but you also have the All-Star break coming up soon, so let me just get to the break, at least get this week off and then get back into it. It's hard now when you're in the grind of the season, right? A game every two to three days, that you're not going to get that break anyway to really be able to let that thing heal. But to your point, gil if i'm looking nasty out there anywhere then joker or

luca or yannis whoever's going to pass me to get it but professor you got 41 million on the line you hurt you know we're gonna figure it out yeah you're gonna figure it out you're gonna get that 20 minutes i'm gonna be a heck of a distributor but also yeah i think i think the question though there's a lot of variables right it's like how in the playoffs is the playoffs solidified, right? That's a thing. How cool are you with your guys, right? You might be one of that unlikable guys on the team or beefing with somebody who is also a star.

So I think there's a lot of variables. It's hard to say is your team going to look out for you? Are they going to be mad you half-assing? How good are we already, like, well in the playoffs? Is that solidify? I think this all depends like million now is about seven eight Yeah, I'm making work It is a good question though is the playoff money

Equivalent or close to as far as the incentive money like getting our team to the playoff incentive money in the contract therefore Maybe like 20 mm like 15 20 million if your team makes it to the playoffs. On which one? Like if a contract like Halliburton, if he loses to 41, right, but he also gets an incentive in his contract where if we make it to the playoffs, you get another incentive. Or if you average a certain amount in the playoffs, boom, boom. So is it important now for me to say? All right, I might lose 41

Not making the 65 games, but I still can get 20 of that back. That's if it's in this car No, that's it. But usually when they do when you're talking about incentive deals like that. Okay, so let's say like Let's say You're a super max person, but they don't have the cap for you. So let's say you're a super max person, but they don't have the cap for you. So let's say 200, they want 200, you want 250, right? So now they have,

you guys are 50 million off, right? So they'll say, all right, we'll put the 50 million in incentives, right? So a normal team, right, we'll say like if you're averaging 20, there's our view average 20 will give you another million Right if you have a full rebound you have a six full rebounds on like another million, right? If you make it to the playoffs will give you 500 if you make the if you are MVP Will give you five million if you're MVP, right if you lead the league and assist will give you another five million, right?

If you win a championship you assists, we'll give you another five million. If you win a championship, you unlock 10 million. So they'll put it in those type of things, realizing if you're playing like a MVP, you deserve the five million. Other than that, if you're playing like your regular self, we get to save five million. Because those are not reachable incentives. Some of them are not reachable. Some of these guys got

$10 million on being an MVP. This motherfucker has 12. Right. You know what I mean? Like the lotto. Like what's the dude, Duncan Robinson. Duncan Robinson got some high ass shit

on his incentives, winning championships, MVP of the championship. Motherfucker, you never gonna make that. Damn. But it was just a... You never know. You never know. But if you do, cool. So, if you're saying, like I said, entice him to sign the contract because it's the possibilities of you

maximizing that is slim to the... Yeah, so, you know... So, that incentive thing becoming... It becomes more of a selfish maximizing that is slim to none. Yeah, so you know, so that is it. Like winning the lotto. So that incentive thing becoming, it becomes more of a selfish thing for you because now you're playing for extra money. But same thing with teams, and I tell players don't do incentives because let's say you averaging 20, right? We're on a bad team, man, motherfucker, we play for, who's last place?

Charlotte or Detroit? Damn, man. Detroit. But you're going to say Charlotte. Charlotte, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know,. Detroit. But you're going to say Charlotte. Charlotte, yeah, yeah. Charlotte, right? You're averaging 20 on Charlotte.

If you average 20, you unlock another 5 million, right? You unlock another 5 million. How many teams, organizations want to pay you 5 million extra and we lose? So what we're going to do is, sub his ass in and then three minutes take him out. So you get in, sub, you sit there with him, and then they never put you back in the game. Cause they don't want to, now you dropped to 19.8. Don't have to pay you that five million. Just like that.

They do that. I've seen that shit. Motherfucker on the sideline, aw, it's on and lockable. It's on and lockable. shit like motherfucker on the sideline on his own and like me only like a move and you would have it all now they just cost me two million that's got to hurt look as a as a reasonably wealthy human being a million two million forty one me all that shit sounds crazy to play you know I mean like five hundred dollars at this point is like I got to make a business decision most of the shoe and mostly your your incentives is usually from your shoe deals Like so when you see like 300 million dollar shoe deals, right? Most of that is an incentive

So keep this thing moving talk a little bit about Mr. Kevin Wayne Durant sons nets is the primetime game tonight Katie's first return since being traded last season Tribute videos are standard now, but for what it's worth, KD doesn't want the Nets to give him one. So he's on Twitter very active. Somebody tweeted, yeah, lower profile guys get videos

because there's no real stakes to their time with the team. A superstar talent is obviously tied to results, to be clear. I think they do give him one for the PR of it all. KD responded, please don't. The night will be better without it. So somebody else said,

what would be in KD's Nets tribute video? I seriously mean that. The off-season buffoonery, him selling during the Celtics series, wasting years for Nets fans and the organization. Just let that career sunset. KD responded, I agree with you.

So, got you a Steve gentleman on the couch. Did any of y'all get tribute videos back in the day? Did you get a courtesy tweet? You still waiting on your videos, Gil? Nothing? I got a tribute.

It was last summer. That was turnt up. Yeah, mine came, yeah, they had to wait a couple years. Like, ooh, yeah, we can't put you on a tribute. It was last summer That was turnt up. Yeah mine came Yeah, they had to wait a couple years like ooh. Yeah, we can't put you on a tube with alleged night It was legends. I was turned up And Margaret March 6. I designed a hat For y'all Popping baby, I'll definitely had his rivaling tough crowd.

My tribute was, why the fuck did we draft this guy? They de-tributed him. What the fuck we draft this motherfucker? This is one of the worst picks we ever had. This nigga, can we get it back, please? I said, fuck y'all too, motherfuckers. Professor, should KD get a tribute video for his brief time with the Nets, Bigfoot on the three?

I don't think so because, I mean, he's going to get his accolades, you know what I mean, for like just he's going to be in the Hall of Fame, right? He's got bigger stuff. Like he's looking at it like it's too small. Like I did bigger things than this. Like you can bring it back to the Nets. Like it wasn't even a successful run. So I agree with him. He's probably like, nah, I'm going to get my just due later, you know.

Brandon, do you feel like Kevin Durant deserves a tribute video for the Nets? I don't think he tripping. Yeah. I mean, I think just OKC and the Warriors for sure. Not even the Suns won if he makes another move and comes back to Phoenix? No, not even the Suns won. Oh, okay. Just OKC and Golden State.

So what's the last, how many years has that been for KD? The last five years? Four years? Has it been kind of, ugh, nasty for him? Not really. You're saying since Golden State? Yeah. It's been like five years, four years?

I mean, kill him. I mean, not necessarily. That's the problem is like when you're building a team and you're building it for us three and then this person gets hurt, this person's in trouble with this person, you know what I mean? And it just never came together.

It ain't his fault. So what if that would happen to Bron if he would have left Miami and he never wins after that? Would y'all be staying at Bron? Like if that would happen to Bron if he would have left Miami and he never wins after that? Would y'all be staying at? What? Like, if that happened, if Bron leaves Miami, never wins again, or just never won, like, had the five years that KD had, would y'all give Bron excuses? Or would y'all be like, we don't know?

Yes, I do. Yes, I do. 2020 NBA champion LeBron James. Niggas will be killing LeBron James. 2023 NCAA tournament champion. He gets killed now for being... He gets killed for being a 22-year-old. He's been...

It'd be way worse, though. What I'm saying is he'd be... Bro, he wouldn't be... What I'm saying is he's been getting killed for being a 22-year-old that took his team to the... That sorry-ass team to the championship and got swept.

Now I realize he was 22. Who? LeBron. He gets the bad, he gets old. You got something to do in the championship. Michael Jordan never... Well, Michael Jordan didn't make it to the championship and got swept. Now I realize he was 22. LeBron. He gets a bad and he gets old. You got something to do in the championship. Michael Jordan never... LeBron left Miami and never won again. Huh? LeBron left Miami and never won again. Y'all... Or he just went to

Cleveland and didn't win. He went back to Cleveland and didn't win. The problem is he would have won. It's theoretical. Yeah. But you can say he would have won but then it's like KD should have won, right? He just had bad luck. Just like that last championship that they had to Toronto. He stepped on the line?

That was guaranteed. No, I'm talking about the one that didn't go to state. I mean, no. KD gets hurt. KD gets hurt. Yeah, he came here. Everybody got hurt at the right time for Toronto to win. I mean, you know what I mean?

Shit happens, man. Even when he hit foot on the line against the Bucs. If that changes, didn't the Bucs go on and win the championship that year? Hell no. Who won the championship that year? The Bucs. The Bucs, right? So if KD hit that shot, they win, right?

So then is that KD's championship at that point? That's a compelling preview. And if he wins that one, does James stay? Does Kyrie stay? Do we see the real group come back next year and try to repeat?

But there's still, even if he makes that, they're still hobbling, though. No matter what we say, they're still a hobbling team. James is still hobbling off the hamstring. I'm saying the next year.

I'm saying even the next year, if they even take it and they win, let's say the Nets beat the Bucs and then the Nets win the championship. That next year, they don't blow that team up. They came back the next year. I know, but I'm saying everyone's healthy and they coming off of a championship. But nobody was healthy.

That's what I'm saying. We're saying hypotheticals at this point. It's hypothetical. It's a hypothetical of changing. You don't think Brooklyn beats the Suns in the finals if they get past, Milwaukee With Katie just Katie by himself I mean it doesn't say it's not hard because like I think that's like Kyrie didn't like Kyrie was still like he the knee was Gone, so he didn't have Katerie. And then James Harden is literally not doing nothing because he's hammy.

So you just got KD. And then the Suns don't have no type of championship experience. I think KD. That would have been, I mean, KD show up. I think KD exposes everybody. Like, just go crazy. He goes crazy. So how will the KD era be remembered in Brooklyn?

Brooklyn? Brooklyn? I mean, it's one long. It's nothing. It might not even be remembered. For real. It's not. It was a super team. That's what he's saying.

He's like, don't remember it. That shit didn't ever happen. It was a super team. Men in black. Men in black. Hey, look right here at this light. Did anybody? No difference when Paul Pearson went to the Nets.

Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce. KG. And it didn't happen. They had a chance. And it didn't happen. That's another squad that people should talk about. Aaron Williams was on that team too, wasn't he? Nobody talks about the 0-3-0-4 Lakers.

Those are failure teams. Those are failure teams. And that was a team that was put together to win a championship, but they didn't realize you put the wrong cookies in the jar. You got Shaq and Kobe, and then you got two guys who don't shoot. Yeah, they're Hall of Famers, but they don't shoot, which packs the lane for everybody. So you win with that team 56, 50 games.

Yeah, that's not good. It sounded good to everybody. When they put it together, like, oh, shit. We're like, damn. Look good on the video, guys. All on the same team with Gary Payton and Tony Bryant. Super team before super team. Yeah, realize, hey, get out of here.

Where you going? Get out of here. What side you want? Gary Payton trying to post up Shaq down there. What are you doing? I'm down here. People don't realize when y'all trying to put teams together, you got to think about how these people play. Like, yeah, I want Tim Duncan and Shaq down there. What are you doing? I'm down here. People don't realize when y'all try to put teams together, you got to think about how these people

play. Like, yeah, I want Tim Duncan and Shaq. That triangle. On what side of the floor? They both want the same side. Don't move. They both want the right block, so what are you going to do? If you're going to get Shaq, maybe you want like a David Robinson. Maybe you want

someone on the left-hand side to play left. So these two don't, you know what I mean? Maybe you want Dirk Nowinski because he can shoot the three and he can, you know what I mean? That's a question for you. How does Michael Jordan play with Shaq? Do he clash the same way Kobe clash? When they were in the All-Star game, look, that's different. No, I'm saying in the triangle off.

No, because you got to play. Because you're running a triangle still, look, I mean, it's a different game. No, I'm saying, in the triangle off, because you're running the triangle still, right? And you got Shaq that's playing Luke Longley's position. Now, Luke moving the fuck out of the way. He getting out.

Shaq ain't moving the fuck out of the way. He ain't going to the short corner. But just like Kobe did, right? Shaq is on that right side. I'm going to be on the left side,

and then I got the ISO on the left side, right? So it works because he's a mid-range guy, So he's not like he needs to drive But remember the clash that they had as far as you know, who's fucking shit is this but he would have higher steam for Jordan, right? He'd love my because my car would have already gave him the main thing but like like him and like him in first maybe But I mean that I got Sam like it's like it's me. I'm Shaq Yeah, but just like anything you should're Shaquille O'Neal,

and when you get with Dwyane Wade, you're clashing until you're like, yo, you can't shoot free throws, bro. So, yeah, as much as you want the ball down there, you're Big Diesel, bring it to me. That's 06. That's 05. That's 92 to whatever. I'm saying Shaq and Shaq, L.A. Shaq from 2000 to 2005.

First three quarters. It's like you and MJ with young Shaq. First three quarters. I still can't. No matter what Shaq we have at the last five minutes, I can't give you the ball. It is just. So you're giving me the ball in the first three quarters? Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So how's MJ getting his points? Mid-range just like Kobe got it. It is just you know, you're giving me the ball in the first three quarters. Oh, yeah So how's MJ getting his points mid-range just like Kobe got it First of all, you got to get the ball for me Do I ever if Kobe was averaging 30 with with Shaq in the front of Mike's Kobe was gonna get that shit good was young Kobe and you think Michael Jordan was on a you think Michael Jordan wasn't Kobe was I mean Mike didn't have to prove shit at This point like it's like it's like like Shaq has to prove himself with me. I'm Mike. You got to come get those.

You talking about an old Mike or you talking about Mike winning? I'm talking about 98 Mike, 97, 98 Mike playing with 98, 97 Shaq. He probably would have got Shaq some easy ones too, though. He was actually better. Mike was still winning rings in 97. His shots not there. He got bigs like easy ones too.

Michael's still winning rings in 97. Shaq demands more of a presence in the triangle offense. But if MJ... No, no, no. Remember, they had to create... When the triangle was created, there was no five men that had the ball. So they created that low post for Shaq. So it wasn't

designed for someone like Shaquille O'Neal So they just added in all right, we're gonna triangle we're gonna have it here We're gonna try to dump it in if not if they high side we're gonna pass it to the corner dump it in Shaq is there No, but that's that that's the thing. The triangle was designed for Michaels isos in the post on the elbows So they just moved those positions to be Shaq in the post. And we're moving around Shaq now because now we got two players that can move elbow to post. Kobe can play post. Kobe can play elbow. So if it's Shaq down there, Mike not used to no big motherfucker taking up that spot.

It was him and Pip, two guards. Now you putting a big down there, my driving lanes are different. Kobe had to figure out how he was going to drive to the lane with this big motherfucker in the way all the time. So now he was taking more jump shots than he was driving to the lane. And when he did drive, it was when Shaq wasn't in the game. So for MJ, I'm like, okay, where is MJ going to get his points? Is he going to complain about Shaq being in the way? No, but MJ's faster, more explosive.

So the three dribbles Kobe needs to get a shot off, MJ needed one. And then the triangle was created to get a shot off, MJ needed one. Right? And then the triangle was created to get the ball out of Jordan's hand. Right? Kraus didn't like Michael Jordan handling the ball all the time, so they created that offense to get it out of his hand.

He found out how to get the motherfucking match. There was elements to the game. Yeah, like, oh, shit, the ball going over there. All right, baby, let me follow the ball. Yeah, we're going to switch. Swing and swing. Hey, yeah, Kraus, I got something for you, boy. Offenses like that are like equal opportunity offenses

that as dominant players, you find out how to score, which is coaches told me the players today are skilled. They're just not basketball intelligent. So it's hard to put in concepts because they don't really think the game. But just like any other thing, when you have a Devin Booker name, you need to create an offense for your stars. And that's not happening. Like Tatum and Brown and Porzingis.

There should be an offense for you three, and you three only playing together. Yes. Right? Like, if it's you three together playing triangle or playing pick and roll and pass and cut, who's stopping that? A defense today is not designed for you three to be an offense together. It is designed for me to be over here. I don't like it. I give it to you.

You try to do your one-on-one thing. You don't like it. Pat, drive, and cut. Yeah, it's easy to guard that it's five-drill, but if we're sitting here and I'm passing to you, and I'm hearing him coming to screen together, and I dive, and why do you think Steph and them fuck everybody up? Because they're still in an offense from back in the day that you're not used to. Jerry, would you say the coaches are trash? I'll say the coaches, it's not that they're trash.

They're taking the easy way out of not wanting to coach. They're not being creative with play calling. They're not. Because you said they're talented, but they're. So the players are talented. So, you know, these players are talented players. Right? But they're not thinking the game.

Right? You can see someone like they'll pass it to him. He's at the mid-range. Instead of just shooting it. That's your shot right there. You got you wide open. He'll try to back up to the three they don't have it he do it you're a pump fake and instead of the one dribble you're right there this is your open space he'll keep trying to drive to pass it and this guy's trying to dress so it's like if they don't have the three or the layup they don't know the concept of just basketball i think i think coaches

are just scared to coach. And I think everything is just money driven. Back in the day, we were taught how to play basketball. I don't know what the fuck is going on. It's trash. It's just put it out there, get a couple highlight tapes and whatever, this kid came out of my program or whatever. That's why the game is so where it is.

It's just come down and shoot a three. Like I was about to say, like Jerry Sloan, 20 years, had a system, right? Just like Pop had a system. But you put players in that system, one, two, three, we know Darren Williams is going to come off this pick and roll like Stockton was coming off this motherfucker, right? But we need a Hornacek.

Who was the Hornacek of the motherfucking Utah Jazz then? You got Okur. Oh, Harper. No, for the older jazz. Who was the horn and second of motherfucking Utah Jazz then you got old core or Harper? No for it for the older jazz So when you get you Brewer or a quarter stretching the floor then you got Karolinko that's slashing But their movement inside their offense made him hard to guard just like Sacramento Sacramento got the pinch post Chris Webber Mike Bibby Doug Christie Stoyakovich in the weak side. He got the weak side pin down coming down off of the pinch post.

You know how hard that is to guard? When we're trying to guard the pick and roll with the corner field, Bibby and Webber with Stoyakovich getting the pin down from Vladi Divac. That's all movement all at once. And it's like Chris Webber don't even have to go into the pick and roll.

He go iso with no help. Everybody's paying attention to their own man. And it's like Chris Webber don't even have to go into the pick and roll. He go ISO with no help. Everybody's paying attention to their own man. But that's the thing when they say that, you know, old school's hating. It's like, no, we're telling you that the game is so easy that if you take your talent and then add a little bit of structure you guys are boom right like you guys are incredible like Shay is the only one Shay is the only one who plays out of outside the NBA what the NBA one he ain't taking no fucking threes and doing all this he gonna say hey this guy too small. I'm going in the post. I'm going to hit you with a mid-range.

I'm not shooting a three. I'm going to hit you. Boom. Because at the end of the day, if you're a coach and you say, oh, he had 32, what are you going to complain? He didn't shoot no threes? See, the problem today is they don't realize, like, there's guys on your court that should never touch the ball. But the way y'all play, they get to touch the ball a lot.

Yeah. And that's what you're trying to take away. Like, keep it in between your stars and then if they help then boom. Like, Van, thank you. I appreciate it. You're making me look smart. I appreciate he listens. Right? You don't need to sit to shoot three. Cut, slash, boom.

What, last night? Five for five. The night before that he had... It's that easy. Like, we're looking at it. What, last night, five for five. The night before that, he had 50. It's that easy. We're looking at it and say, you know, if you backdoor cut, he turns his head, cut behind him, gets some easy layups, then eventually your man stops paying attention to him.

Now he can drive. This is chess. We asked to chat. Katie should get a tribute video. 85% said no. I know he has something to contribute to that. What you got for it? Oh, no, that's all good.

Before he said it, I was wondering, too, if the marketing changes it. Because, like, now players get such big money, the coaches might feel pressure. Like, oh, these guys got to get their touches. And the easy way would be, like you said, just get guys their touches, right? Like, that's the easiest way. And I'm also wondering if those great coaches back in the day, because we named Utah, Golden State. These are all, like, great.

Would those coaches come into today's NBA and incorporate their offense, and would it be smooth? Or would they feel pressure because of the new NBA, the marketing? That's a good point. Way more superstars now, right? Yeah. I don't know. But guys are more, like, it's not even just NBA.

We're talking about guys are superstars in high school. Like. I didn't know. But guys are more like, it's not even just NBA. We're talking about guys are superstars in high school. Like, this shit starts in high school. That's an entitlement to two that they have when they come out. It's an entitlement

since high school. Coaches are coaching you because you got NIL deals or you can bring money. Like, it's not a lot. I mean, back in the day, shit, it was the same thing, too. But I feel like we just had

a better structure than today. Yeah. Like, our structure as far as, like, AAU and, like... Running the plays. You know, like far as like AAU and like guys running plays and like guys not ducking competition. It's just a bunch of just scary

shit. It's like basketball is a hobby. Like motherfuckers just do it as a hobby now. It's like, well what happened to like like fuck you. Like what happened to that? Like what happened to that? Y'all coming into the NBA a little bit after me. So when I came in, right, 2001, our training camp, right, there was no time limit on training camp.

Yep, it was. No. For us, it was. You came in three hours. Yeah, three hours. That's what I'm saying, yeah. That didn't exist when I first came in. They had no cap.

So motherfuckers sitting in there six, seven hours. Yeah. Two days, right? Huh? Yeah, two's what I'm saying. That didn't exist when I first came here. They had no cap. So motherfuckers sitting in there six, seven hours. Yeah. Two a days, right? Huh? Yeah, two a days. We can do two a days, motherfucker. Three a days. There was no rules, right?

There was no rules. So, you know, you got people sitting there. They're running for three hours straight to get conditioned. There was no rules. So when you're a coach, you're using training camp to put in all your sets, everything, right? You're teaching there. Then you had two weeks before you played your first game. Now you got three days. And now like my third, like my third year, my third year, cause my second year for you to even enter training camp, you had to do a conditioning test, right? Ten up and downs, four sets at an average time.

If you didn't get that, you couldn't participate in training camp. Ten and one. It was called ten and one. Yeah. So you couldn't get in training camp for that. So now, right, now when you're talking about, like, learning, they taught a little bit more. Now, you know, my third year, they say, all right,

the players say, we're not practicing. We're not doing all this. So they put in three hours max. Hour and a half, no contact. Right? So that means now you can either do condition for an hour and a half or do you put in your plays. So then you became, you're learning. If you didn't learn in training camp, you really didn't get to play like that.

For sure. Right? For sure. Now, there ain't no training camp. Yeah. Wow. You really didn't get to play like that for sure right when the store now There ain't no training camp. Yeah, so now when you got all these young kids and you sitting there like All right, you don't know this he can't play this play you don't this play. All right. Look. Hey, y'all know five out Yeah, that's the only thing you know five out five out cut you put these basic plays in and it's like five out five out cut doom doom doom and When you ask why LeBron James and Steph Curry and these older guys are still dominating

Yeah, the answer without offending anybody because everyone else is just stupid stupid Right there. There's the stupid basketball player So for the older guys is like, you know that old guy, you know when you're playing it's like a rookie yeah he has all he's slow but he has all these moves all the that you he has all the same thing with these guys they're older but because y'all don't know basic things that they can just use their wisdom to still beat on you that's why the year old is killing you the year always learned basic basketball and that's right. So we don't say oh, you'll get your suit Lucas in your plan is 11. He's sitting there playing with you because he knows you're not you don't have no structure to your game No, you still yeah, you're sitting you still alright. I'm gonna go this way. Are you laughing at these? Dummy

Push it out between the legs step back step back I'm gonna keep doing the same move and you won't keep falling for it cuz you haven't retained what I'm doing John Moran We all know what's coming my mom right come off the screen Yeah, same move he's gonna go left no matter Same move. He's going to go left. No matter what he do, he's going to come left and then he's going to jump and try to dunk on you. And you're still going to fall for it. LeBron James is going to do the same move. On the left side. Go left. Step three. Look at it. He knows when he looks at it, you look at it. How are you not? You don't know I'm about to shoot it. I'm about to shoot it. I'm about

to shoot it. The whole arena sees the move on ESPN every single time. He going to go left, only does it on the side. He going to put it in the right hand, look at it. You going to look. He going to shoot it. 22,000 people notice he's going to have. The player that's guarding him doesn't know. Effective move.

There's too many fanboys. Effective move. Just fans out here. That's crazy. Oh my god. LeBron did a step back three on me We haven't seen it get blocked yeah one time we have everybody know when it's coming We haven't seen nobody try to steal it nothing just But we all know my bad, but we all know what is coming to you all see it nobody try to steal it. Nothing. Just... My bad. But we all know what it's coming to. We all see it. It's like, yo, here it comes. So these go to the left side. Alright. Five, four,

three, two. That's crazy. Y'all know what else is coming? Mostly fans. Last segment of the day. Professor, we appreciate you being on the show. If you have not done so already, download the Underdog Fantasy Abuse promo code GIL. They will match your

first deposit up to $100. Another spirited show on the eve of Black History Month. Hey, Underdog, man, y'all need to bump that back up to $500, man. Come on, Underdog, $500, man. It's $100. Everybody's in. It's Black History Month. Ooh, $500 for Black History Month?

Yeah, Black History Month, $500, man. Get the black community up Everybody's in his black history month just 500 for black history month like yeah black history month 500 man We need the black community up in here man. We need three thousand three thousand. We need the black community I think we're inching closer Hopefully we'll be about two to one. I mean if he if he go ahead and plug us. I'm pretty sure On the show This Friday, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to do it. Hey, hey.

By the time we get here to Monday, if it's 501, you're fucked. And I'm just like... We are at 498,000 right now. We're at 98. We don't win up. We don't win up. We don't win up.

How much? 498. It was at 497. So our question of the day comes from underdog user FirstToLastBloom. Do you think that we will see a player break Wilt's 100-point record this season or next season? Who do you think can do it? Professor, we'll start with you.

You're our guest of honor. I do next five years, I think. Okay. I think somebody can do it. I mean, who? The guys who've been going on? Maybe Luka. Maybe, I don't know, maybe think. Okay. I think somebody could do it. I mean, who? The guys who've been going on? Maybe Luka, maybe I don't know, maybe Wimby, maybe

Embiid. Embiid, maybe somebody I mean, LeBron might, I don't know. It's not, we need a game. But I do think it's doable, though. Do it in regulation or would it need to be an overtime, double overtime type of situation? Probably like overtime. Overtime helps.

I mean, shit, I don't know, bro. You got to be unconscious with the shit. Not just the fact that you can make shots, but you got to not give a fuck about everybody else out there asking for shots. Like Luka having, what did he have, like 46 and a half that Atlanta game? And it's like, we looking at that game like I remember the trail was like damn They just walking the motherfuckers just walking the 50 And next thing you know, he got 73 and he could have had the 81 It's like Tim Hardaway drew and be could have had the 80

Oh, I don't know if anybody in the league that I'm up. I don't know if it's like the league got that I don't give a fuck type attitude like cold and you get 81 Shay. I Don't think they got that type of level. He got a moving level. That's a dead moving level. I think he got you. That's true, though, too, because even if you get 70, you're still 10 short. Yeah, you're 10 short.

You take a long time for 10 points. As I said, Luka, three minutes, he would have been at the way his algorithm was going, five more points if he would have played the rest of the game. But he played 45, right? So even that. And he slowed down in the third. That's what I'm saying. He slowed down in the third. He slowed down in the third.

I don't think nobody got that mentality. Yeah, because he put the gas on it. He put the gas. So Luka at 41 in the first half of that 73-point game. Jason probably, probably, Luka has the best chance because he has the coach that understands it. Right? He has a coach that understands milestones. Right? So, like, Luka's playing. He has 48 coach that understands milestones.

So like, Luka's playing, he has 48 at the half. As a coach, this is how it's... You want this to happen. Like, all right, you got 48 at the half. You need the right coach. You need to come out these first three, four minutes strong as hell. What's Luka shooting from the field? This season? This season.

Because all of that, Let me pull it up. Because all of that, to me, it matters as far as how efficient you are and your shot-making ability. And Luka has that. He's shooting from the three.

He's getting to the line. So it's 49% from the field and close to 38% from three. So that's... But it still has to do... 78% from the line. But that's what I'm saying. It still has to do with the coach.

So let's say you finish... You have 48 and you finish the third With 60 right let's say you finish with 60 Hey listen 10 more points you at 70 well, what's the score of the game? They don't matter I'm the coach if you're up 20 I don't give a fuck what the hey the end of the remember at the end of the third we sub out I'm not gonna sub you out right and i don't think you think he stayed in the game so i want to see like with

mb i want to like you you're so close that we got to try this out right so instead of subbing you out and then bring you back in the nine minute mark i rather you you stay in right now because you're going to be playing against their second unit yes they see how far you go and then let me see what happens in the first three minutes now if you get cooking in the next three minutes and you're sitting there 70, go. So I'd rather take you out with the last three minutes than take you out at the beginning of the third in situ. So I'm going to be strategizing for you to get it. So I'm like, yo, you got eight more points to get in the next three minutes. If you get there, I'm going to keep you in.

But think about how Kobe got his. He was getting to the free throw line a lot of them fourth quarter points was from the free throw line because they had to foul he was attacking the rim so for Luca you stopping the clock and you're getting points and cold was still shooting those threes so Luca being able to shoot 38% from the fucking three he's getting and ones and he got a mid-range. So I think for him, his barrage of scoring is the only one I see outside of a guy like Shea or Booker that can really pour on those points

and not have a problem looking up at the scoreboard. Like, yeah, I got seven more minutes. I'm at 73. I can get 90. I can go out for 90 if we push the gas on it. You got to remember, if it ain't your coach, like one coach got fired for letting him get 90. I can go out for 90 if we push the gas on it. You got to remember, if it ain't your coach, like, one coach got fired for letting him get 70. Right? Earl

Watson, like, you want to keep doing that? Hey, book, stay in. Get to 70. Right? So it has to be, because most coaches, right, they're not really paying attention to what you're doing. They're paying attention to the game, paying attention to... So you really have to have the supporting cast of the guy who's going to sub you in and sub you out.

Even with MB, you're playing 38 minutes. This motherfucker got this many points. You're going to keep playing, big fella. You're going to keep playing, big fella. You got 73 and there was three minutes left? Stay in. I'll take the heat after. I'll take the heat after, but you can never

take what you do back. Because we might never get this chance again. So you got 73 there's three minutes left stay in and try to get 82 I'll deal with the backlash from pop later like Kobe 62 first the Mavs in three quarters. Go ahead. Just keep I'm not taking him Out go ahead. Did you did when he scored 81 didn't they barely went like they needed? No, that was a perfect game. So it's like it was almost like they had to do it to win also. It wasn't just charity to leave him in. Yeah, that was a perfect game. So that's a little bit different too, yeah.

Like the 62. Nah. With 12 minutes. I got 12 more minutes. Whew. Please. Whew. But that's T-Mac.

T-Mac had the 63 and the three quarters. No, no. I played against him. He ain't going to get it. With 12 more minutes. I'm going to tell you about the T-Mac. T-Mac had the 63 in the three quarters. No, no, I played against him. He ain't going to get it? I'm going to tell you about the T-Mac game. This is real truth. He didn't even have a good game like that. Like, you know how Kobe had it?

You know how, like, when people are on fire, they're on fire? T-Mac wasn't on fire. We just couldn't stop him, right? He missed, like, 12 free throws. He should have walked the 70. Dang. Like, listen, he had 62, but it was the 62 when you look up like oh, that's it. Oh He only had oh he only has oh he only has 62 We felt better because how he was playing we had to switch from me on him to our five man Cuz we couldn't stop what he was doing, but he missed layups dunks free to like he was

So he gave him 12 more minutes. He ain't getting 90 No, he played the whole game. What if he had a great I thought it was yeah, he played the whole game Oh, he just has 62 and three quarters. No, he just had 62 for the game over the game Oh, yes, it didn't have a game where it was 62 Yes, he's doing three-quarter because I had a game cuz coach told me he was like well Y'all scoring was great into the into into the third quarter where he took off at least score 40. Damn. So I had about 33.

I was like, well, I just need seven more points. All right, cool. So we got one more special Mostly Fans question. This is from 14flat. Ask, Rashad, can you do an and one trick? So we got a ball here. They want to see if you can do it. Please.

Please show me one move that you was watching. From and makes a one two three and four five, please show me one Please get them shits out It was a move I created right, okay Okay. So I dribble, behind the back, boom, bam. You ain't got that. You saying that a legal move? You was even on a legal move? I was on the, I bounce, come here, You ain't never hit nobody with that in your life.

I created that move. That is a hand-work move. I like that. You ain't never done that in your life. I created that move that is a one move. I like that. You ain't never done that in your life Please show me please don't you pulling up to everybody where they can follow you at and join the movement Yeah, I'll be stealing my seat as copyright copyright copyright Copyright. Hey, don't be stealing my shit. Hey show something

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