Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down The INSANE Scoring Across The NBA

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down The INSANE Scoring Across The NBA as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew (featuring WNBA legend Sheryl Swoopes) react to the extreme bucket getting by Luka Doncic and Devin Booker this weekend and debate if elite defense in the NBA is a thing of the past. The also address the smoke ducking allegations surrounding Joel Embiid as he avoided Nikola Jokic in Denver ONCE AGAIN, before analyzing the potential Game of The Year between the Golden State Warriors and Los Angeles Lakers where Steph Curry and LeBron James cemented their rivalry as one of the best in NBA history. HELP US REACH 500k SUBSCRIBERS BY SUBSCRIBING TODAY!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:07:31 Kelce & Mahomes Mess With Justin Tucker 0:11:47 Luka's 73 Piece - Most Dominant Performance Since Wilt? 0:19:10 Booker A Top 5 Scorer in The NBA? 0:36:14 The NBA Needs To Bring Back Old School Defense 0:39:24 Joel Embiid Ducks Jokic AGAIN 1:05:21 Did Gil Ever Duck Anyone in The NBA? 1:14:24 Steph Vs LeBron INSTANT CLASSIC 1:19:46 Where Does LeBron-Steph Rivalry Rank All Time? 1:25:04 Draymond & His Antics Are BACK 1:27:36 Steph & Brunson All Star SNUBBED 1:37:24 Steph Curry Vs Sabrina Ionescu 3 Pt Shootout 1:45:56 LSU vs South Carolina TAKES OVER The NBA 1:52:32 How Will Caitlin Clark Translate To The WNBA 2:06:08 MostlyFans 2:14:14 LeBron Played Against 10 Father Son Duos 2:32:39 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They could say shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me. This is my store. This is what I was doing with what nobody looked. Y'all don't know what goes're gonna practice for the locker room. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by underdog fantasy Damn mm as I previously mentioned it's no longer Lexi's arena, but the good times have made us laugh will always come back I'm sorry Lexi. It seemed like everybody showed up when it came back to gills arena. You know, it's good We're in the real start of time

It was Lexi's Arena when like three people was here. Lexi was supposed to be on the show today. I like that. Lexi was supposed to be on the show today, but she pulled out 15 minutes before game time. I don't know if she ducked you, Cheryl. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm just kidding.

Lexi, it had a nice ring to it. Lexi's Arena. It did. It did flow better. Some colors mine, exactly. They put it Lexi's arena. I did it did flow better Colors mine exactly put it all back. I don't know if that pink was my pink Gender-neutral right We started already this Monday, so we got the legend Gilbert Arenas back as the namesake of the show. Woof, woof.

I just... Lexi, treat her to be a better girl. I ain't going to lie to you. I get it. You stay it. Polite. She gave you a friendship bracelet. She gave me a friendship bracelet.

Acknowledge me. Yeah. She gave everybody a friendship bracelet. Some of y'all just didn't wear yours. I don't know how to tell her I broke mine. Well, you just told her. No, no. She probably didn't watch it in the beginning. She to tell her I broke mine oh you just told her you probably watching the beginning she probably watching this I was trying to I was trying to take it off and it just snapped cheap shit it just small it's not just snap I don't think you tied it tight

you have mine and I forgot to put it on you know those were Italian beads very expensive highest quality we got Kenya Martin back with us on the couch. I'm really enjoying the hat today. Always has. Okay. Me too. And we got a special guest making her second appearance in the arena. I like that. Her basketball resume is far too impressive to list efficiently.

Hall of Famer Cheryl Swoops back on the couch. You want me to do it all? That's all I get? Four-time WNBA champ, three-time MVP, three-time defensive player of the year. But you could just put to the jersey. I gave you shit last time. I know. I told you.

I was like, I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I told you. Gilatone. Gilatone for it, sis. Put you on the wall of fame. He did. Are you cool being bottom row? Because he could have flipped to KG. Everybody's not that tall. So yeah, okay

He was asking me. He can't put that size 56 You're right. You're right. Yeah, you know a size 56 Jersey's John know so I'm on the wall. Okay? I'm okay with that. I don't Want on the wall last time it was it was problematic But Gil has a tone for his sins. Gil's an honorable man. We called it to question. But here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today.

Luka and Devin Book are the latest stars with huge offensive nights. But is the defense really that trash in this era? Embiid hasn't played a game in Denver since 2019. Why does he continue to duck Joker in a mile-high city? LeBron and Steph renewed their rivalry this weekend, but where does LeBron-Steph rivalry rank all time?

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somewhat not out of pocket but if you can't watch this show live with us on youtube we got audio versions available on apple spotify wherever you get your podcasts from. So we are a basketball show, but it was a big weekend in the NFL. Championship Sunday. Chiefs and Niners advanced into the big game in Vegas in a rematch of Super Bowl 54. But one of the more memorable moments happened before the Chiefs-Ravens

AFC Championship game even started. So during pregame warm-ups, Ravens kicker Justin Tucker was holding it down in the Chiefs area While Patrick Mahomes was trying to get right After Mahomes tried to get him to vacate the premises Travis Kelsey stepped in Did his best impression to Rodney from Baby Boy

Said I don't give a fuck about your fort Kicked his balls in his helmets Kane you are a resident football fan Were the Chiefs out of pocket for messing with Tucker's pregame routine? Nah They sport different Were the Chiefs out of pocket for messing with Tucker's pregame routine? No. They sport different. No, it's psychological with them.

They trying to get in his head. He a kicker. And fuck your couch. Like, we're in your house, and we're coming to kick your ass, which they did. They did. No, I ain't got no problem with that. They do it all the time. Somebody stretching, they out there stretching. They run between them while they're stretching, opposing teams, shit like that.

They start fighting, pushing. You see it in college all the time, college football. You see it in the NFL all the time. It's sportsmanship, man, to a certain... It's part of it. So, sure, Tucker's on his home field, one of the biggest games of his career, AFC Championship game, chance to go to the Super Bowl. You see something like that happen. Is that disrespectful to do in his house?

No. I agree with Kenyon. First of all, it's also like you're trying to mentally get in his head, get in their head. Tucker probably should have come back and either done something or said something, I don't know. But I agree. It's sports.

It happens. Take it. You either like it or you don't. And if you don't like it, then you got to do something about it. Did you ever have any issues with opposing players trying to mess with you? No. They had to... They had to...

Well, and if they did, it wasn't something that was like that blatant, right? Like where I saw it or we saw it. But the other side of that is I'm not going to allow you to come into my home and do that. Yeah. Tucker a little scrawny, though. I don't know if he wanted Kelsey or Patrick Mahomes. Well, he got teammates. I mean.

Yeah. Like you said, Pat Mahomes was trying to get him to do a head move, so Travis Kelsey came over there. Well, he got teammates. I mean... Yeah. Like you said, Pat Mahomes was trying to get him to do a head move, so Travis Kelsey came over there. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's... I mean, that...

That's what Travis Kelsey is supposed to do? Yeah, that's what the tight end is supposed to do. That's my quarterback? Yeah, yeah. That's a problem right there. You the quarterback,

you can't get the kick of the move? No, but... But here's the psychological tool. He ain't trying to worry about that. Yeah. He moved his stuff earlier, and then Kelsey Kelsey came in Tucker set it back up and then tuck Travis Kelsey, what is he doing on that side? Anyway, whatever kickers do before games Oh, yeah, he ain't kicking obviously so shit

practicing He ain't stretching he ain't I mean he's also is trying to do exactly what the Chiefs were trying to do. Absolutely. Right? So... Like I said, sportsmanship. Gainsmanship, not sports. It's gainsmanship.

Like, yeah, it's that. He was practicing kicks going that way, you know, just to fuck with them. Yeah. You know, kick towards the... Hitting those. Yeah, just kick towards the quarterback. Yeah, it makes sense,

but you're just sitting there stretching, laughing. Yeah. So let's shift this to basketball. What are the unwritten rules of pregame Yeah, just kick towards the quarterback. Yeah, it makes sense, but you're just sitting there stretching laughing. So let's shift this to basketball. What are the unwritten rules of pregame between two teams during warm-ups? Like, did y'all ever have any issues like this? How do y'all determine who gets what side of the court? And when you want to come in and get your shots up and there's a lesser player there, are you telling them to kick rocks so you can get it going?

Oh, yeah, somebody down there shooting, they know once you come out. It's like y'all pick an end, whatever're y'all on we go go to the other end But we walk out and somebody's shooting on this end from other team. You ain't got to say shit. They know all this it's unwritten What if that's the end you want to shoot on them? They are it's already been established the rookies and all that shit get there first and then I already picked the basket Yeah, I go who we're gonna shoot on. So that's what it is, man. Ain't nobody gonna... Like I said, the only thing that somebody might let you do if you're

trying to go use a practice facility. If they got another court within the arena and you're trying to go shoot, most teams are gonna tell you nah. Got a couple people that, it depends on who you are. Yes. But if it's just the average person trying to go use, they're going to be like, nah. Or if you try to use the ice tub or the weight room or some shit, it depends on who you are.

Go do some pushups outside. Or you try to shoot free throws after you get in. It really depends on who you are, man. Like in our situation. Usually it's like the court is, yeah, because the road team picks which way they're going to go. So usually when the rookies come in, you know, whatever side they're going on, you go.

And for the most part, if you're a veteran or you get there really early, you know, you usually start on the other side, get your little shots in, and then come to your side. But nobody really has problems on court. Locker room stuff. I remember Mello wanted to use a hot tub. It's Mello. Yeah.

It's fucking Mello. Anybody else? Hell no. You talked about when Kobe was working out and you were watching. Was he using both sides of the court, or was it just this is Kobe's time on the court, whatever he wants to do? Actually, it was always just the one side. Okay, um Away It was the it was the way side which now now thinking about it wouldn't make sense

Yeah, I think and now it wouldn't make it wouldn't make sense I mean for him it makes sense because you don't need to look at the same end that bronze shoot on yeah he don't need to look at

the coach the run his offense yeah yeah yeah just him you know but that's the way I'll be going in the second half

so you know in theory it wouldn't make the same end that bronze shoot on now yeah and Sherry what can you learn about a team watching them in warm-ups?

Close by the tunnel. Yep, close by the tunnel. Did you ever watch players try and figure out tendencies or what they like to do? I didn't. Not in warm-ups. I will go back and say this, though. When you talk about warm-ups, there were times for us, if our rookies or players who weren't

gonna play that much were out and they were shooting on the same end that we were supposed to be shooting on and like if I came out or Coop came out or Tina came out we wanted a basket so they would then go and shoot at the other end until the other team came out or they just stopped shooting. Okay. All right. I like it. Or they go sit down with their ball and watch them. Yeah. Watch them shoot. All right. Do your 30.

They don't want to shoot. They don't want to come here. Do your 30. Watch them. Okay, then get back on the court. Come rebound. Yeah. It was like jail. Yeah. Right? I don't know.

You got to worry about your own. So we had some legendary Bucky getting this weekend. So we got to show Luca and D-Book some love. Hold on. It'll be one, like, so the young guys that have two coaches out there, right? It'll be one person. It'll be seven coaches. Like, right?

It'll be six people rebounding and one person passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's respect. And the ball kids. Yeah person passing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's respect. And the ball kids. Yeah. And the ball kids. Yeah. Everybody would say, yeah.

Whole arena out there just... Absolutely. We have some more legendary Bucky getting this weekend, so we got to show Luka and D-Book some love with a very special Hibachi time. We need a sponsor for H bocce time. Looking lonely. So after Embiid and Cat did their thing about a week ago, dropping 70 and 62 respectively, Luka and Deep Deep Book did some bucket getting of their own.

Let's start with Luka. Did the birds dirty in Atlanta, dropping a 73 piece on Trey in the Hogs' Dome with an array of moves like that inside, outside. However, they wanted it. They got it. The 73 came on a ridiculous 91.2 true shooting percentage. Luka went 17 for 20 from two,

18 for 13 from three, and 15 from 16 from the foul line. So Luka's tied for the fourth highest scoring game in NBA history and is the first player to score 60 plus points with a 90 plus true shooting percentage 90 what the fuck does that mean analytics? But what does it mean? There's a fake 90% shoot it true shooting percentage No, what I'm saying is that I get you saying you keep saying true. Is there a fake one? Is there untrue? Yeah, I think just the regular I'm just a regular 90% we get it

true Squares no, but I said is like okay if you want to say will Chamberlain's 100% true or not true that makes sense But we we we we know yes. This is why we need Lexi back. We can We can calculate this motherfucker didn't miss much But you need the actual analytics you all right to support the argument don't kiss so to your point ain't nobody seeing a video Will's 100-point game we're still trying to locate that However, we did see Kobe drop 81 on the Raptors But his Lucas 73 and 7 dimes the most dominant offensive performance in the modern era? I mean, 81 is 81, but I will say yes.

I would say yes because it's on the road. Most dominant performances are at home, 81 at home. Wilt was a Pennsylvania So it's going on the road stem came on the road, huh? Books book drop 70 on the selfies right here in the loss So, you know going in on the pace going in Atlanta, you know, we want to go to strip club night before 73 I mean as you does it add any more that it was in Atlanta just knowing how turnt up that City what?

Turned out. What is you what is Luca doing in Atlanta? Like that hey this is this is this he's not going to Magic. Hell, yes, he is. Hell, yes. Yes, he is. Him, Paul Gasol. Zubac. There's some difference. They built just a tad different. Sherrod was looking at that. Is Lucas 73 and seven dimes the most dominant offensive on the men's side?

I don't know. And, like, I didn't play in the NBA, so they can speak to this better than i can but just watching the game i just i feel like it's easier like yes that like don't get me wrong that's a dominant performance but i feel like it's easier to score like that because i feel like the defense is just just like... Mid, as the young kids would say? Trash? Boo-boo? I don't think defense really exists that much. One, yeah, the rules have changed, so you can't touch,

you can't put a hand on anybody, and it's very different. Kobe got his 81. The defense was different. Right? Wrong? No? It was. He scored 81. I mean, that sounds like the defense wasn't really there, but I'm saying but No, no, no, no they were they were trying to stop this They just couldn't fucking do it like just looking at those highlights

It was like Luca just kind of got to wherever he wanted to get to when he wanted to get there and do whatever he Wanted to do and it was just a little whom I wherever he wanted to get to when he wanted to get there and do whatever he wanted to Do and it was just a little I'm gonna try to stop you but so In the Hawks defense they did try to throw multiple defensive coverages didn't prove to be effective But can you watch the same guys out there? He already cooking the same people y'all just moving furniture around Same fucking guy you got him in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you got him in there you know, it's the same shit like Got him first clip, right?

the boom boom boom to step the pump fake He finished shooting. He like oh the fuck ain't nobody here. Okay, lay up like that's right. Like come on, man Well, I get he's very very good at the game of basketball. Absolutely. So don't nobody react. He is really good. If I'm fake, he can really shoot a step, fade away if you're there. There's two of y'all standing over there and neither one of y'all is like, oh. He's just like, oh shit, this is, that's the NBA right now. At what point when you look up and you see that he got 50, does somebody step up and say, you know what,

like pride at some point has to step in? I just, my mentality was just different. Like, you might give me 30, but I'm not going to let you give me 31. Okay, but, you know, I ain't going to hurt you. Pride sounds good. It do. Did anybody probably stop you from soaring? Well, no, okay No, that's all we asking for Effort no, that's not there for them. What is it? Yeah, like when I'm scoring F when I'm scoring 60 Kobe's effort was there it don't stop me

You have a whole team back there. It doesn't Did you work for that 60? Oh, did you see the 60? I saw you but did Kobe Come on You see the 60? I saw you. Yeah, but did Kobe ask you the whole game, Bill? I didn't see the 60. He didn't get all 60. Come on, shoot a three. He didn't get all 60. How many of that 60 did Kobe ask you? 33 exactly. How much is smushy? Not much.

Okay. So everybody got a piece of it, right? Everybody got a piece. But what I'm saying is... 33 exactly. I love you, Noah. When you're out of your element, right? When you're out of your element, which he's 6'9", 6'10".

He's a big guard. So who's guard? Who's really guarding him that's going to make it hard for him? Anybody who's guarding him does not play the point guard position in a sense of guarding someone who's coming at you down. Well, listen, send all five in and make them pass the ball. I understand.

Just like LeBron and Giannis, right? Giannis' advantage is he don't post up, right? So you not guarding him, he don't have to deal with you trying to guard him like this. You will kill him. He's running full court, coming at you full speed. That's, you know what I mean? So most of these guys, they're playing out of an element where that defense is not designed to guard them in that space.

So most of these guys, that's Guardian LeBron, Giannis, Luka, even Devin Booker, right? You're playing in their field and Kobe trying to guard me as a point guard. Yeah, you're not stopping me. If I pass the ball and now I got to come off screens and shit like that,

I'm in your world. Right? And some of these guys are just out of their world Yes, I yes factual absolutely But just I get it man is just good. Did you say look at 16? Yeah, six nine. He said he's six nine six10". What do you want to say? I'm just asking. Say it. Say it. It's Gil's arena. Say it.

Gil's arena. What does Google say when he was 18 getting measured and we stopped growing at what, 21? What does Google say? Huh? Google say what? 6'8", 6'8 1⁄2 without his shoes on and when he put his shoes on, how tall is he again? Just asking. 6'9", 6'10"?

Just asking. Okay. He's listed at 6'9", 6'10"? Just ask him. Okay. He's listed at 6'7", but obviously he's probably grown a little bit. They don't redo him. He's a big heart. He's a big, strong heart. He's a big man. But... Yeah, I'm just...

I just look at... Like, everybody like 6'7". Like, listen, 6'7", at 18 years old, right? He just grew a few inches. Put your shoes on, right? He was 2 inches. You're 6'9". If he grew an inch, now he's 6'10". Okay. Right? old right he just grew a few inches put your shoes on right it's two inches you're six nine if he grew an inch now he's 6'10 okay right remember six remember tatum was 6'6 6'7 when he came into the league now he's reported all of 6'10 we grow motherfuckers they don't recheck you

they don't recheck i was you know i'm 224 i'm still that listen at 190 just that with the 190, Gil. It's not like our team, sister, and measures you and redo it. They're not doing it every year. No, they don't do it every year. One time. Sorry, so what does the coach say in that moment?

It's just a question. Help! Like, you know, is the coach saying, well, I don't know. Do something. I don't know. Do something. I don't know. Trash. That's probably what they're saying.

Because, dude. The number one, besides ISOs in this NBA, the number one ran offenses is what? Pick and roll. Pick and roll. Right? Mm-hmm.

I didn't watch the game. I was doing something, but I'm pretty sure they ran a significant amount of pick and roll. Mm-hmm. Throughout the game, he has the ball in his hand. I don't know the percentage of it because I'm not an analytical guy like yourself. I'm not either, K. I just merely- I don't know the true shooting percentage.

A lot. The ball in his hand is a fucking lot during the course of the game. Running pick and rolls. How many of those pick and rolls did they trap? How many? To get the ball out of his hand. And when he because he's going to pass it.

Don't let him get it back. And how many times did they fucking deny him back to half court? This is what I'm saying about the effort. Like, just, dude, we come out of timeout. If the coach ain't caught, well, this is the way I did it. Because I got tired of Kobe busting our ass. Right? He's out there playing one-on-one.

And we ain't doing nothing to adjust to it. So we come out of timeout, and I told the guys, listen, he get it, I'm going to run at him. He's going to give it up and deny him back. I don't know how long it's going to work, but we're going to give this motherfucker a different look. The head coach was like, I like that. What you want to call that?

Yeah, I don't know what the fuck we're going to call it, but it's a different look for him. I'm running at him, dude. I'm going to go double team him. Where he at? I'm just going to run at him. Yeah, because what you've been doing up to that point isn't working. It ain't working.

So do something different. They tried to double. They tried to load up. No, but denying the ball back and all that. Listen, he give it up, and them motherfuckers be like, whoo, he ain't got it. And them motherfuckers fake that bitch and throw it right back over there. Now he playing down here with a low clock. Defense takes effort. Right.

And not a lot of people want to really truly play defense. Like, it does. It takes effort. And when you're guarding somebody like a Luka, like a Kobe, that they going to give you hell night in and night out, like it takes a little bit more effort. A lot of people just don't want to do it. But if what I'm doing, it has not worked. And to your point, we even did that. Coach, I was like, coach, listen to this, they work. After timeout, we go back out on the floor and we get together

and we're like, listen, this is what we're going to do. And to your point, I don't know how long it's going to work, but we're we're gonna try it if it works for three or four possessions that's six eight less points then you give me somebody else to think about are you giving her another thing to think about right well okay I know what said he called but the mother was doubling to me right so I gotta I gotta guess it's gonna take me three or four possessions to figure out okay how they playing me now now we okay okay if we was down 12 now we might be down six now Okay gave us a chance cuz this dude ain't got the ball now I can we can play other dudes one-on-one

The problem with that is Remember there two guards are small Right. Yeah, okay. So he so he has the best He has the best defender on him. So if he needs help y'all in trouble. Oh, yeah This was this what y'all got There's nobody protecting rim and all right Okay, so the defense the deep the problem with the defense Today if we're gonna argue about the defense is that they don't have that back line that you were used to seeing.

There's nobody built like you back there. Bam. Bam. That is true. You're pushing through, bam. I'm pushing through, bam. I'm driving full speed, and he jumps. I'm pushing through that with my speed. So Luke is pushing through Bam. I'm driving full speed, and he jumps. I'm pushing through that with my speed.

So, Luka's pushing through that. So, you don't have the Shaqs and the McGlores and the Yao Mings. That's true. You don't have those bigs back there that's stopping the guard. Most of the defense that guards thought they were playing your I'm not going by you because I don't want to get hit by Ken and twin right it's big down there that's what that's what's keeping me from back that you're not that is like I can blow by you at any moment it's okay King is watching me

he has no fouls today. No thank you. I don't need to get my head chopped off yet. I'll wait until we're in the penalty, but I'm not going to go in there and get hit for free. So for the most part, yeah, you're guarding me. Your shit look nice. Sub him out of the game. I'm going to show you how nice that shit looks. So most of the defense that looked like they were playing defense is because you were big guys back there.

There's no big guys now. So there's nothing keeping me from running through the lane. And they fucking switching pick and rolls. Switching pick and rolls? Like, oh, shit. Five men is guarding. I got Rudy on me? Yeah. Boom.

I got Rudy. So who's back there? Oh, shit. Conley's going to protect the rim. I'll see you in a minute. Because LeBron did that the other night. I think the second overtime when he was like, give me the rim. I'll see you in a minute. LeBron did that the other night. I think the second overtime when he was like, give me the rock.

And he went from half court, went through four players and got to the hole. And they fouled him and all of that. So, Golden State's a little different because they don't have no bigs anyway. But I do agree with that.

That is a big difference. We was playing broad Andy Wade and Dwight hit one of them real hard. Both of them stopped driving. Makes you think twice about it. No, we're going to shoot these middies and these bank shots

which makes defense easier for us. Absolutely. Go to the lane. Now they got to come back and start off off then come back and do a move pump fake Oh, yeah, I want to go in there with big fella. Like I'm watching game of the day KJ got some minutes. They playing Denver, right? Jordan play he trying to guard joy. I mean, I'm for Nicola right way undersized as we way undersized But the work that he was doing early to make him catch the ball off the block, I was happy.

I'm like, man, you listen, dog. Man, like, he just didn't let him catch it on the block where he wanted to catch it. He half-run him forward. Like, he made him... I was like, okay, that's all I'm asking for. Because once he catch it, we know what he's going to do with like, okay, that's all I'm asking but because if once he catch it We know what he gonna do with it like fucking really good any bigger than so you don't do

You come double you gonna motherfucking do some shit, right? But I was like I'm a fucking tie Fuck man, I'm fighting through it doing this over half back. Yeah, I'm Gotta do so we asked the chat is Lucas 73 the most dominant performances will 67% said no Okay, good job chat. Let's move on to the Dixie Colby score. It's going to be Colby's 81. We got guys out here that know, like James Harden, what, 60-point triple-double and shit. There's been some games out this bitch where Russ 20-20-20. There's been some goddamn performances out here. Just scoring 7-3 on a road is kind of like, ooh, okay. Who's about to jump in that joint, too?

Yeah. And he had that motherfucker jumping. That's what I mean. He had that bitch jumping. Lucy trying to get jerseys autographed, all kind of nonsense. Let's talk about Devin Booker. 70-point game, five 50-point games during his career. And on Friday, he added a 60-piece to the resume.

Is that a pretty good feel on most of them this year? That is not Devin Booker, but... Johnson up on Luka. Down the lane. But, Kenya, that's the play you were talking about. That's the play you were talking about, though, Kenya. Come on, man. Is that a pretty good deal on most of them this year that is not Devin Booker, but But So book is averaging 51 points five rebounds and three assists in his last three games But the Suns are one and two in that span where does D book rank amongst the best scores in the NBA right now? Best scores Hmm I

Mean top five without thinking okay, he's top five You said the last three games Okay, what's the Lucas last three games? What's in B is last three games, right? I'm pretty sure it's gonna to be 50-something, too. Especially since she had 70. Still impressive. Still impressive. But they won it.

The biggest thing is they won it. 45-11 for Luka in his last three games. 45-11. How about NB? NB? 45-11. Yeah, the fact that they lost. That's impressive.

45-12-4. So not 50, but. Man, they cooking, yeah. Yeah, the thing that they lost. That's impressive. 45, 12, and 4. So not 50, but. Man, they cooking, cooking. They are cooking, though. And obviously, Book hasn't been asked to do as much with Bill and KD now in the mix, but when he turns that thing on and gets it going, you think he's top five still? Of course. Easy?

Easy. You're saying of all time? No, just right now. Oh, right now? Yeah. Yeah, when he got that, yeah. Yeah. He's currently 10th in the MVP ladder. Obviously, NBA releases their weekly rankings. Does D-Book deserve more love in the

MVP race? 10. 10 is where they got him. 10 is where he's at. You agree? Yeah. I mean, he just said last three games. But if he said the last 33 games. Three. Just three.

According to reference, Gil. Where's Lexi? Lexi, if you're in the area, please come get your arena back. Before season, D booked 29, seven 7 assists 5 rebounds in the 37 games That he's played. What is he he's after 29 7 assists 5 rebound What's the record they are currently glad you asked 26 and 26 in the West

Is it about winning? MVP? I mean, if you're averaging only 29, like, we got to say only at this point. Only 29? You're six. Yeah, you're not even in the category. No, I think it's just about me. To your point, he's 10th.

Yeah, he's 10th. Justified. But right now, because of the record and what everybody, you got a few guys that's... You know those people out there averaging like 35, and they third and second and shit? Yeah, it is. Like, where Tatum at? Yeah.

I'm pretty sure Tatum averages about 29, and he's first. And he ain't in the... He ain't in the conversation. He's in the neighborhood. He's in the neighborhood. But in the last seven days, we've seen 270 pieces, 260 pieces for the 1070-point performances in NBA history have come in the past year. And it's got Hall of Famer Paul Pierce wondering what happened to the game he loves. So on Friday, he tweeted this.

Damn, I miss defense in the NBA. Defense with a capital D. So Nuggets coach Mike Malone echoed those sentiments before the Sixers-Nuggets game. He told us to follow him. He said, there's no defense in the NBA anymore. Adding that, it's getting harder and harder to offend elite guys, and that rules favor offense. So let's play a game of facts or cap. Who said this?

The coach of the Nuggets. Mike Malone. Of the Nuggets. Of the world champion of the world champion Randy? We're not who is hard to guard and it's eating everybody up, and he wants to complain about got it Okay, so we're gonna play a game of facts or crap sure I'm gonna ask you our question, and you tell me if it's facts or if it's cap Okay, the NBA needs to bring back old-school defensive rules facts or cap facts the NBA needs to bring back old school defensive rules. Facts or cap? Facts. Okay.

And why is that? But you should, I ain't playing the NBA. I'm just going off of what I watch. But you are a knowledgeable basketball expert, and you see the game. Yeah, I don't know about that. To me, when you say rule, I'm just talking, what I remember from back in the day when defense was like real,

like there were moments you could just knock somebody on the ass, there was no foul call. Like you could guard somebody, you could get up in their space. There was not this, now it's all about freedom of movement. You can't handshake, you can't put a hand. No, you shouldn't be able to hold them. But if I want to guard you and get in your space, I should be able to touch you and be a little physical with you. So prison rules. I don't know.

I ain't never been to prison, so. Right. They got no rules. No. Jail. Jail. But I do. I feel like it's...

Prison and jail are not the same. I feel like it's gotten... Defense has gotten softer. I'll put it that way. Kenyon, NBA needs to bring back old school defensive rules. What you looking at over there? It's cap, but

I don't know the way I feel about it. Right? Because guys are really good right now. Right? Offensively. And I don't think it's it's just individual pride man like so that's it has nothing to do with schemes and all that at times man it's just it's individual pride. I go back to, like I was talking about the other day, about being up on a pick and roll and certain things like that.

That's knowledge of the game and individual pride. And you get that, the knowledge of the game, by watching games and watching film and studying and shit and knowing guys' tendencies and habits, because that's what it is just paying attention to shit small things that God is tell signs with guys doing certain moves and certain these guys are good they working on the same moves every fucking time they in the gym to protect them and they coming out here and they doing these same moves on y'all like they in the gym working out with nobody in front of them like they got the coach in there in front of them

that's where they guarding them in NBA like this we working on our game in here and I'm gonna come off I'm a hessy I'm going left and the dude just standing there like he playing token defense on him and let him go left it's just it's a constant same shit every and nobody reach for the ball, nobody. It's little shit that I ain't ask for much. So you feel like guys aren't watching enough? There's not enough films that he goes on? They in the motherfucking, in their apartment,

with their fucking VR headset on, goddamn playing, goddamn Call of Duty and all that other shit, and yeah, Lord knows what else they doing, man. But they ain't paying attention to the game. They're too busy shooting threes. And motherfucking Euros and all this dumbass finishes that they never going to get a chance to do in the game.

Right? Instead of working on foot drill speed, like foot speed drills and shit like that and ladders and paying attention if he got out I got a guard in B what is his favorite move or I got a guard Jason Tatum what does he really like to do

so I could I'm not going to stop him but if he averaging 30 my goal you're not scoring 30 tonight breath you just not hey I'll for what you you're not getting average so do you my goal do you put any any of the blame on the coaches because they don't demand it they're not...

They're scared to go in a film session and roast one of them motherfuckers. Like, they're just not going to do it. Depending on who it is. No, I'm saying with the coaches, it depends on who it is. But I don't think they put an emphasis on it. They're not...

A single individual film session, and we went out there and we were bad defensive and there was a guy just Constantly getting cooked and I'm asking you questions and do you like tell you what you what the problem? Why you did this why you guard like and I'm focused in on you today and mother was around there like Hmm Be me tomorrow Right. Yeah, if somebody called you out in their way, right? Mm-hmm, and it's about effort ain't going to be me tomorrow. Right? Yeah.

If somebody called you out in their way, right? Mm-hmm. And it's about effort and shit like that. And it's on film and they're slowing it down and you're the focal point

of this film session. You're saying you got to cut some out and do nothing but you're asking questions and you're making it a thing. Don't nobody else want that feeling in the room i don't want to be called out and i'm the only one that's getting it that day

when it's on the film that i was bad and we all see it we all like hey we're cooking your ass like we probably we like that's what we thinking. So, I know, because I know Gil's going to respond. So, do you think offense is that much better? It is. Or defense is that bad? It's both. It's both. A hundred times better.

It's both. Offense is a hundred times better. Offense is much better. A million times better. Yeah. Way better than it's ever been. Way better. Or individual players.

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Way better. Spacing, guys shooting, everything is way better offensive than it's ever been way better or individual players and yeah, absolutely way better Spacing guys shoot. Everything is way better offensive than it's ever been. I'm I'm on that train I'm on that train. I'm riding with everybody the game is evolved Guys are much better guys are much better taller stronger faster jump higher All these things exist with the game Because if you put the same effort into it

Okay, how many times have we went to a gym or just a parking in this in this universe and we seen Defensive players out there working on their actual you know, you don't right you don't so because it's pride if I'm a if I'm a Yes, so your pride your pride is not gonna beat me if I'm spending hours every day in the summer So if I'm spending a hundred hours in the summer working on my talent and my skill your pride is meaningless But because there's nothing you're done I'm not gonna stop. I'm not so you so once again, I'm just gonna keep running. I'm not saying guys are gonna stop these guys that dang what I'm asking an Individual pride is means nothing. Yes, it does. Okay, but it does The game right so is the clip so we're gonna talk about it right now

Anyway, the other day when we saw the pet Beverly Paul Reed game, right? So it's the clip, so we're going to talk about it right now anyway. The other day, I only saw the Pat Beverly, Paul Reed clip, right? They playing Paul Reed back on the pick and roll, right? Pat Beverly's like, no, I don't need you here. I need you here. I don't need you here. I need you here. That takes a little effort and knowledge of the game,

like not to be back on the pick and roll, right? It's a different look. I ain't saying that I'm going to stop you from scoring, but I'm giving my effort and my, okay, I'm going to be up on the pick and roll now, right? Instead of giving you this space where you got, you can go this way, you can snake the pick and roll, you can, there's less options if I'm up on the pick and roll. That's all I'm saying. And at least make it tougher. Yeah. On the offensive line.

So that's that. Because you're so good, right, with the ball in your hand, I'm at your disposal, right? So my thing is in defense is being proactive instead of reactive. If I'm up on the pick and roll, I'm dictating the terms now on where you... That's a pick and roll. Right? And so in certain situations, but one-on-one, guys, this is ISO, right?

Going into your thing. I'm not going to sit back and watch you just play with the ball. Ba-boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Now you, right? I'm going to stick my hand in that motherfucker. Right? You'll handle.

Now you're going to have to, oh, shit, I can't cross this bitch no more right here. I made you do something. That's all I'm saying. How many elite defenders like you played in our era? One or two? A few. Right? So that's one or two.

So that means if it's, we're talking about elite in their position, right? One or two or three in that power four position. That means the rest are just mediocre, right? Same thing in guards. You probably have two or three guys that are elite. Other than that, the rest of you guys are trash, in a sense, individually. So if we take every generation, right, you have a guy that destroyed the league, right? You had a guy, a single guy that there was nothing you did.

He destroyed you guys. So when you say somebody like Allen Iverson, there was no one man that guarded Allen true, right? so Allen in the hardest of NBA defense the early to he's giving you 30 Right now you look at the players on his team Their their lack of skill actually helped the defense Yeah, right their lack of skill. I don't need to guard you. I'm going to help. All five of us are just going to

look. And he still walked through all of us. Everybody's pride was there. He still walked through it. Now you add shooters on his team. How do you know everybody's pride was there? Because it's one guy. We're going to win this game if we didn't stop him.

These guys are not in void're non-involved. They're useless. Agree. Now when you add other players that can play basketball and score with Allen, then it becomes unstoppable. That's what the game is like. Back when I played, you had two and a half scores. 80s, one and a half. 90s, a full two if you had a if you had a full two guys who

can score the ball you was a you was a good team right in a in in our era two and a half you got a guy you got we got a 30 pointer or 19 and you got a guy who got 15 y'all got a good team now if you got a guy like i had a big three where all of us was pretty good, then we got a little two, right? That little two kind of hurt us sometimes because nobody's guarding them two. Today's game, you got four guys who can put the ball in the basket. Yes. So it becomes harder on defensive schemes when you have more guys who can do the same thing. So if I do pass and you double me and I pass it and he can actually put the ball in the basket the guy who's doubling starts like I

I can I can because I don't want my guy to outdo me I agree with all of that, but I still go back to his point and maybe it's because i'm just Just a little different When it comes to defense I know you're like your pride ain't gonna stop me't going to stop me. I don't agree with that. Because I was just that player that was like, listen, to his point,

you got to study the game. You got to study your opponents, know what they like to do. Even Luka, Luka has a weakness. What is it? If you're not watching film and you're not studying, you don't know that. For me, it was all about, okay, this is who my matchup is going to be primarily tonight. I know what she does well.

I know what she can't do. This is how I'm going to guard her. And after somebody gave me 20 points, I'm like, you know what? Nah. Because my pride won't let me live with somebody giving me 50 So what are you gonna do? I'm gonna make sure you don't get 21 My thing is like even you got six fouls use them

So instead of him Why did you in 20 free throws also? There has to be there has to be a point where somebody says, I think right now the game has gotten to a point where we rely, guys rely so much on help. Help, help, help. So when are you going to have enough pride to get in front of your man and guard him one-on-one?

He's doing the same thing. No doubt. But that's the... He ain't that quick. I'm not saying it wasn't a great performance because it was a great performance. Absolutely. It was a hell of a performance.

But... But... But what I'm saying is, it's delusion. And you're making way too much money to not have pride to guard somebody. Back in the 90s, what was the offense compared to the defense?

What, 55-45? Right? Defense kind of, right? You had more defensive players than you did, you had offensive players back when it started. Right? More offensive players started coming in. So what changed in the defense of concepts

since it was created? Nothing, right? Below the free throw line, we're going to push you over the pick and roll. We got to say, it's the same concepts we went through. It's the same, but the only thing that's changed is the move.

There's a hundred more moves that these guys have versus then, but it's the same concepts of defense. So the defense of strategies has not evolved. then, but it's the same concepts of defense. So the defense of strategies has not evolved. So you still have the same, back then it was, you have a rock offense, I have a pistol. Yeah, I'm gonna keep beating you in this war. Then you got a pistol, kind of even.

Now you got a bazooka. The defense is not equipped. They have the same concept. But load a free throw line we're gonna do this pick and roll we're gonna now i mean the only thing that came up now was switch but there's nothing there's no new concept of defense so when offense is sitting there you got your hand out here all right i'm gonna use that they they started giving the foul then they say okay we're gonna take that away from you right all right i'm pumping you jump i'm gonna jump it to you then it's like okay offense we're gonna take that away from you. All right, I'm pumping you jump. I'm going to jump into you. Then it's like, okay, offense, we're going to take that away from

you. Then it was you in the lane. I'm just going to run into you. Then it was like, all right, defense just jumped straight up. The rules that they keep saying that they're changing it because the offense is, remember the zero step? There was no year roll. All these new moves are for the defense. I'm watching how Kenyon plays defense. I'm watching Pat Bev does this. All right, so I get to train working on Pat Bev's mannerisms. Pat Bev is not working on my mannerisms in the summer on how to stop me. I remember what he did. I go into the summer. I do a whole game. Okay, when I go this way, he jumps like this. Okay, when he jumps like this, because he likes to lift off this arm, I'm going to pump fake, get him off the ground.

The offense is practicing. They're sitting with the rule book. All right? You know, if you dribble, you know, it's two steps after you dribble. Two steps after you dribble. Two steps after. All right, so if I dribble at the steps after you dribble. Two steps after. All right, so if I dribble at the same time, that's a zero.

Now I got two steps, so it looks like I have three, right? If I dribble the ball, they say I can't palm it under. If I let it float while I'm going, looks like a carry, but they said under. So I get to move with the ball. Like, we're learning. We're learning from the rule book. The defense is not. So, you know, take the Lakers, right?

We take that Laker, which was the first super team that I don't know why they used LeBron's team. But it was the Lakers 0-3, 0-4 team where you had Kobe, Shaq, Gary Payton, Carmelone, and then you had Devin George, right? Devin George. Ooh, I know who we're going to leave. We're going to leave Devin George, right? We're going to leave Gary Payton. They can't shoot the ball. You have Kobe and Shaq, but these two can't actually shoot the ball.

So I'm not picking Gary Payton up at the goddamn half court. The fuck are you going to do back there? I'm not picking Gary Payton up at the three-point line. What are you going to do there? Devin George, when he gets the ball, back up. What are you going to do? Kobe Bryant was the only shooter, and he only made one three a game. Other than that, everybody made under.

So what we do is that we're just going to pack that. Everybody guard Shaq. When Kobe just drives, we're just going to all be here. So, yeah, it looks like there's better defense because we're not guarding two of these players. No matter who you sub in. I don't know if that looks like it's better defense. It looks like it's smarter defense. Yeah, smarter.

But now what happens if you're so used to sitting in a lane, packing it up, now you got Dame Leonard who can shoot from the damn near half court. Then you have to switch up your defense. So that's what I'm saying. But it's because you, not you in particular, but it's because you know your personnel. You know who's coming to the game.

You know what Devin Booker can do. You know what Gary Payton can and can't do. You know what Paul coming in the game. You know what Devin Booker can do. You know what what Gary Payton can and can't do you know what Paul George can do all so it's to his point again A lot of the guys just are like, you know what? I'm gonna just go out here I'm gonna play and if I can shut him down shut him down if I don't I don't He did that y'all point right they did that then like to everything that we're saying right? I've always thought this And watching the Golden State Warriors play

Before Katie when they start winning before Katie got there after Katie was there, right? Like I said the the day about Nurkis right he would but he would have to become will Chamberlain not that motherfucker I've always thought it, right? Draymond would have to have, listen, Draymond would have been, if we was going to win it, Draymond Green would have been the MVP of fucking four finals. If I was playing, if I'm coaching the other team's defense, Draymond Green would have been the MVP.

God damn, Draymond nice. He and that motherfucker just laying that bitch up. Because I'm not going for none of them splits. I'm backing up all the way in the paint. Listen man, we switching all, we doing certain things, but I'm not guarding Draymond. If he get the ball in a certain situation, I'm not guarding Draymond. He gonna have wide open layups. I mean walk to the basket, wide the fuck open layups. Just not gonna guard him in a certain. What 30 coming off it if I'm going Draymond, I'm gonna go find 30 Yeah, then we're gonna be playing a boxing this yeah a boxing one out this bitch triangle into yeah, and I'm gonna leave him open

Unfortunately, but if you're giving up 60 points still giving up 60 points No, but it ain't threes though, but but the threes is what's the back breakers in this shit, right? We still get that thing going my chances right? When Steph get that thing going no is gonna hurt when clay get it going Steph get it going That's what carried him Right. Yeah, but you're giving them 60 points still is just Draymond bringing the ball to the floor right? Uhhuh. He's getting a rebound he bringing a bit before I am turning my back on Draymond green. Hey, just like that. That's just what I'm gonna tell my god. Oh God. That's all

I'm gonna turn my back and I'm gonna look for 30, but that's what I'm saying, but Back then there was no Draymond green bringing the ball up. It's not I'm talking about like I'm just saying Like you There was no Draymond Green bringing the ball up. It's not. I'm talking about like... But I'm just saying in theory, there was no... Not at all. Horace Grant, like you're power four. You ain't got to worry about that. The Horace Grant. Yes. Horace Grant ain't doing nothing like that. Offensive rebound.

Two, three, 15. Dennis Rodgers coming down the court trying to make offense? Yeah, not at all. Bring your dumb ass down here with your booty shorts. Yeah. Let's play some defense. So, Gil, NBA needing to bring back old school defensive rules. Facts or cap?

It's cap. Cap? It's cap. Cap. It's cap. Because we don't know what those rules are. Okay. Okay. If defense was so good back then, how come when you look at the top scoring teams, it's all back then? Yeah.

When you're talking about scoring 125 a game and all that's back then that's not today that's back then teams the Denver to 125 points a game yeah yeah so out of the top teams aren't scoring 100 okay so out of out of the top 20 out of the top 20 all-time scoring teams. There's not... You got 17 from 1960. So 15, 14. I don't know. 14. 14 teams from the 60s.

And then four from the 80s. One from the 90s. There's two right now that are active, and that's today's team is Pacers and the Bucks. Today. That means last year, no. So the two teams this year are breaking the top 20. Other than that, it's back then.

And the problem... Thunder in the mix as well. And the problem with this is... It was Penevis in the basket. When was the three-point line created? 79-80, I believe it was. 79-80. So that means teams that were scoring

125 in the 60s and the 70s are all late. What the fuck was the defense if I can score 125 points one late twos and free throws You see to me like me that's what I said that the theory of what they say There was great offensive players back there, but but you can stop the one dude that's trying to score 30 you like he's um, you know where he's coming. There's no three We just go all up everybody Like to the old school rules like the handshake and all that shit like you can still do certain things like you just can't leave

Your hand on the motherfucker. That's all he bring the ball up the court. I can mother I just can't leave my hand on you But that's the the the hand check is still there I'm gonna make you turn your back the hand check is still there see the thing about if you watch 80s basketball if you actually Watch it and then you say alright. I'm gonna look for hand checking You will not see the hand check that they have in their mind. You're gonna see Mark Jackson get hand checked, because he's coming down the court with his back because he couldn't burn. I'm just gonna come down.

So he's like, all right, where you going? But back then when you have a five man, think about it, five man, I have to pass the ball to the five. So that means I gotta come to the side. Obviously, most of the right handers want this side, so I got to sit here, and then he's pressuring me. Now I got to turn my back. Now he got the handshake.

He want to keep me in the corner, right? They got the shooting guard. He got to go set a pick. He got to come on over. I got to dump it on down. Obviously, you can control me because I got to wait

for all this shit to happen, and I can't drive because I got to give the ball to the five men. That was easier to do versus, think about it, what was the hand check when Isaiah Thomas was playing?

Same age, but he didn't have a five-minute passitude. He's coming downhill. You can't hand check somebody who's facing you, right? Then when evolution and those guards,

the Tim Hardaways, the Penny Hardaways, once they started scoring the Allen Iverson, the hand check was irrelevant because these guys didn't have five men. So when you go below the free throw line, they still got a hand check. Below the free throw line, there's still a hand check.

Get back. Swipe this shit off. Just swipe this fuck out there. Think about it. If you come in full speed at me Get back Swipe this fuck out there Okay, think about if you come in full speed at me and I tried it I tried to hand check you like this you're gonna run right through that and that's if you might break you might break my Wrist, that's a fire. And so that's that's why I really didn't mean anything The only thing that happened is as soon as you get by me and I'm just gonna Did you say that's a foul?

You've been full speed as a boy falls you boy falls you run it should be yeah break your wrist So you gonna and then you gonna try to hold on me on the side And then if I have a big Kenyan ready a key ready ready Charge this so So when it comes to the NBA needing to bring back old school defensive rules, survey says... Stop the cow. I wasn't taking no charges. Let's keep this one.

You weren't taking that shit. Let's talk about another big story. Took my last real charge in college. Did she hurt? Dislocated my jaw. Oh. Then after that, who ran into you? Shit.

Okay. Chris Owens. We from Dallas. Big motherfucker. Oh, yeah, right So week and a half ago in beating Yoko's face off for the first time this season Mb won the battle with 41 10 dimes 7 boards and in a Sixers win All eyes were on the rematch this past Saturday But 15 minutes before the game and B was a late scratch with the lingering knee injury And when he finally came out of the locker room for the fourth quarter the Nuggets fans let

him know about it despite not playing the game so after game, Mike Malone wanted some answers on why Embiid did not play. I don't know how you go from being active, available, to out. And I'm sure the league will do their due diligence, because that's frowned upon. And we've had situations this year where we've talked to the league, and they told us if a player goes from being active to out, there's going to be an investigation. So, you know, I'm sure that will happen.

And I'm sure that De'Will heard his knee in the Indiana game. Like, it's real. He watched the game. He heard his knee in the Indiana game. So I'm sure he is hurt. Mike Malone with some textbook dry snitching. So according to Shams, the NBA is expected to investigate the Sixers' decision to sit out Embiid in the game. But it should also be noted that Embiid is out tonight against the Blazers with that same...

What the fuck does he care for? He want to see the matchup just like everybody else, Gil. Agreed. Fuck that. Are you trying to win a game or not? It means more to him. No, what I'm saying is, I mean, you're a coach. I agree with that. Are you trying to win a game or not? It means more to him. What I'm saying is, you're a coach and the guy's best player's not playing.

Why the fuck are you so concerned? That's an easier win for you. Shut the fuck up and just play the game and win and keep it moving. Oh yeah, why isn't Embiid playing? I wanted to make the game a little bit harder for us yeah yeah yeah yeah you know how these coaches you know and she was not showing

up today we mad I would be I would be hurt I know whoever had the garbage was like, whoo! I would wonder. I understand the fans, right? Fans want to see the matchup. But for the coach to be like, why didn't he play? So according to Shams, the NBA is expected to investigate the Sixers' decision to sit out Embiid in the game. But Embiid is 6-2 in his career versus Jokic. But only 1-1 in the games played in Denver. But Embiid has dominated the2 in his career versus Jokic, but only 1-1 in the games played in Denver.

But Embiid has dominated the head-to-head matchup. Oh, shout-out to our productions here for this nice infographic. How about that? Embiid leading in wins, averaging more than five points per game, more than a rebound. Jokic is averaging two and a half assists more. But Embiid leading steals and blocks.

So, when they have played against each other. So, so, but, but, this is Embiid's

fourth straight season not playing in Denver. Hasn't played there since November 2019. And Embiid now can only miss, if he misses the game tonight, five more games

to remain eligible for MVP. He ain't ducking, Joey, fucking Nikola. Shit, he ducking at altitude. That's what I was going to say. At altitude is something else, though, right? He ducking at goddamn altitude out there, bitch, man. I want to ask, you played in Denver. Obviously, you played with the Nets, so you played at a different team.

What's it like having to go to Denver and play at that altitude, and is that something that you would consider ducking? Them burning lungs having to play that one game out there. Motherfucker, mouth extra dry. All water in one of the two. It's going to be one of the two. And your motherfucker, you ain't going to have no control over it. It's going to be running out the side of your shit.

And your shit going to be dry as a mother. And he's no notorious for his shit. It's going to be motherfucking talk white out there. De-mo his shit be mother white up the moisture us Tyrone bigger that shit brutal bro I'm not first quarter I mean one year we was playing the Bulls and was this he might have been with the next in her fucking Eddie Curry listen First, it was one of them games where there wasn't no whistles or nothing before the timeout. Listen, man. And something happened to the clock or something in here, man. We was about a free throw line. I said, nigga, you okay? Boy, deep ones too. I was like, I'm getting ready to call a train out there, be like, hey man, you probably want to bring that defibrillator

because he's going to go. Oh my gosh. Everybody had ass. Give me his inhaler. I need some new air. Who number on this bitch? I don't care. Oh, shit.

Hey, dog, you got players who ain't even going to ask, just take it in there. It's your shit. Here you go. Yeah, he passing that bitch around like it's a blunt. I don't care It's your shit ego yeah, pass that bitch around like it's a blunt they're passing and hailing around on the bill I is a blunt like come on man like yo I played I trust we knew it to boys certain people coming in there like hey run them all that run them shit Yeah, so competitive advantage to play out there, right? For seven years. Hell yeah. This is real, Jack.

It's real. Did you and Joyce see a dude trying to come in here? Oh, struggle. Hell yeah. This is fucking alert, man. To be on the...

Dudes be praying there's a foul or something early. Hell yeah. No, we playing fast in there. We running. And so, yeah. You better be ready.

At 12 to the 9, you be hoping that some fouls happen. If not, that's three minutes of just straight running. So, yeah, you better be ready. At 12 to the 9, you'd be hoping that some fouls happen. If not, that's three minutes of just straight running. So do y'all have any issue with Embiid skipping those games in Denver and not giving the fans what they want to see? How do you feel the league feels about not getting that rematch? How do you feel the league feels? Not getting that rematch, Embiid versus Joker. Fans saying he's ducking them.

Do you agree? I'm not a Denver fan? I'm not a Denver. I'm not a Denver. Do you think Embiid is ducking Joker as the namesake of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy Woof Woof? Is he ducking? What is he ducking? He's done whooped his ass every time he played. 50, 48.

I mean, what is he ducking? What? He's done whooped his ass every single time. I mean, maybe it's legit. Maybe it's the out. Tell me, dog. That shit. Ducking what he's a whoop this ass every single time I'll play you Joker That bitch in 2019 he realized like not never here Get that out. Hey closer to zero and I'm down to go all you want. He didn't do this shit for Joker He did this shit for Prime When Prime came in there and told him stop ducking made him look bad in front of the world

He did. I hope you got tickets. Yeah, he did. Uh-huh. You got Prime got tickets. All right Why do that to coach Prime girl? Uh-huh. You made me look bad. You made me look bad Man just got a house from his kids. He's feeling good. He want to come to the Nuggets game. You made me look bad in front of the road. Said I was ducking. Cool. I hope you got your ticket front row. I'm out. But then back to Michael Malone, right?

You say what you say about him not playing, but then you negate your statement by saying, but he did hurt his knee against Indiana. He was hurt. We watched the game. We watched the game.

He did hurt his knee against Indiana. Like, yeah, he twisted his fucking knee. He didn't come out the game, but he did something to his knee. But you still like... Yeah, he contradicted himself. So obviously elevation in a mile-high city, 5280. 5280, 280 baby my Philly about 39 feet. So I'm up

You know one year we went to Pueblo, Colorado Which is like higher higher than the training camp. Yeah. Yep makes sense. Yeah We was in a mountain we was by New Mexico it was I swear listen it was I didn't see now But I'm pretty positive there were at least 200 meth labs around Easily so, you know, you can look at air you'd be like Yeah, they cooking meth around here. There's going to be a whole lot of white people on the sidewalk with no teeth. It's just the area gave that vibe.

You're watching people walk around with no shoes on and shit. I was like... Fidgety. Yeah, they definitely cooking it out here. It was gloomy out there. It's the capital right here. Yeah, this is where they make it.

I had a few times I wanted to quit. Training in Colorado Springs with the Olympic team. I was like, nah. Is that why they go to Colorado? That's where we trained in 95. It's still there. But was it because of the USA facility out there? Yeah, that's true.

First time I went out there was in college. We were in good shape. Gil, tell the truth. Did you ever duck anybody when you were in the league, and did you ever feel like anybody was ducking you? Did I duck? We have tape, Gil, so I'm giving you... I mean...

I mean, the second leading scorer in my position was Mike James. Mike James and Mike Bibby. What the hell I'm ducking them for? You said the second? Who was the first? Me. Oh, my bad. Yeah. Girl, you better stop. You're embracing all challenges.

Man, the worst of the worst, you going to give me 20? You going to give me 20? 20 on all jumpers? Mike James ain't going to the basket? Bibi ain't going to the basket? Did you ever feel like anybody was ducking you during your career? No. You can tell. This is Bill's arena. I don't. It said three-time MVP.

No, I don't. No, I don't. Go on saying. Who was ducking you? But three-time defensive player of the year, I feel like, ooh, ooh, hammy. Who was sick more than they should have been? Who was sick more than they should have been? Who was sick more than they should have been? I really don't.

But also, our season was so short. You know? I mean, it was three months, so... Mm-mm. No, I didn't. You didn't have no tendencies? No, just... Yeah.

Every time we played... Every time we played, I ain't... Damn, you out of here? Man, in fourth year straight, I ain't seen you. No, I don't, yeah, we. Damn, you out of here? Man, in four feet of straight, I ain't seeing you. No, I don't. And, Kane, did you feel like anybody was ever ducking you while you were? Could have been. I have no idea.

I was going to say, but I never really even thought about that. We was ducking him. It was called jump shots. Jumpers, yeah. We ducked the shit out of Kenya. Jump shots. He about to send my shit to the moon didn't give it back Shoot these jumpers

She jumpers of these flow and I wanted everybody to play though. That's my thing. I don't want you not to play So, how do you feel about this situation? Out of the fun the right the basketball not a fan. I'm a competitor But now I'm saying now I'm still a fucking competitive As a competitor like I want you to play I Just want you to play. I don't want everybody to be home and I think I think the problem with him is him Embiid I'm sore

And I'm not playing you saw yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to get you 38 and 20 I want to get you strong want to get you 40 at 50 every time. Yeah, I'm gonna Only got 30 Hold on this name. Yeah, I see you next year. God damn it. No We plan against yeah next listen the game against the Blazers. Oh, yeah, you play Portland tonight I see you next year, goddammit. Who are we playing this year? Who are we playing against next? He's missing the game against the Blazers, so. Yeah, he played Portland tonight. He's out.

Supposedly, he'll miss that game. He played Golden State after that. Does that mean he actually hurt? He played Golden State after that. But he kind of has to not play last night. He played Golden State after that. If he didn't play last night. But that's what I'm saying.

He's pushing it, bro. Yeah. Oh, he ain't going to make it. No, you push it. Oh, for the MVP? Yeah, you push it. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna make it. Nah, you pushing. Oh, for the MVP? Yeah, you pushing. Yeah.

I think it's gonna be some fuck shit. They gonna have a decision to make. Like you said, they gonna do it this year. They better stand on their business. That'll be some... They gotta stand on their business. They gonna have to. At least this year. Yeah, they gonna have to stand on their business.

No, no. You out, because right now, that means he's not gonna get a scoring title, right? He can get that. No, he can't. He he won't get that means he's not gonna get scoring title Right, he get that okay. You just can't get no the war postseason where I don't know the awards So all in B. You can't save the nigga average 37. No. No nigga. I have his third I have his more points in there by the motherfuckers my scoring title. Yeah Yeah, he just can't win no postseason awards It's my first season. You don't know. First team.

First team. MVP. Them. Them. He can't. He can't get that. Third, second, third. Like them.

So to qualify for the scoring title, a player must appear in at least 58. It's a little bit more wiggle room. Yeah. I think he'll hit that threshold. He'll get that. It's getting close. That is crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy.

You did all this work. How many games has he missed? Five, I think, with 13 now, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, whatever it is. That's crazy. And you can miss what? Up to 17, so 65 out of 82. So 13, and if he misses tonight, it's a four-team.

He's down to five. No, he's down to five, so if he misses tonight, he'd be down to five. You did all this work to give it to somebody else that's not even close. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just open the door for somebody else. Damn.

Right? So let's now the conversation really switches. If he just say he get it or does get to that, to that threshold. Now it really opens it up for... I mean, I'm pretty sure Jerk is not going to mind getting it because, motherfucker,

the one you got is mine anyway. Yeah, absolutely. No matter how we do this, God damn it. Let me get that back. No matter how we do this. Yeah, that one's mine. I need that one.

We're just going to switch the years on it. Just switch the years. I'll send you this template. You send me that one Yeah, I know this is yours. Yeah, you play That's all we just swap it out What was that word you using before on the points on true true that's true that we have untrue 3p Repeat on an acceptable analytic used by squares far and wide so they could participate in the

basketball conversation. Let's move to another convo. The LeBron-Steph rivalry added another chapter on Saturday as the Lakers and Warriors met in the Bay on prime time and gave fans arguably the best game in the entire league this season. We got some highlights as we tend to do. LeBron James, 39 years old. It's so nice to see LeBron give himself up because there was a time. He was a little shaky.

He was already guarding the heat. That was nice. Steph doing his thing as well. Steph came through with 46 and seven dimes. Including the go-ahead three in overtime from a questionable screen from Draymond. Did his thing in double OT. LeBron messed around, dropped a triple-double, 36-20 rebounds, 12 dimes. But most importantly, as we'll see right here, they haven't historically been giving LeBron

that foul, but him stepping in the free throw line, knocking down two free throws in the bay. The spoil. I didn't think that. Just say San Francisco. Give a brown that foul but him seven a free throw line knocking down two free throws in the bag Not the bait they'll rob you And you've been goaded oh, he's the greatest of all time. She was on the line then. So, after the game, LeBron and Steph shared a moment, and the legend Z was kind enough to transcribe it for us. And right after, Steph rips his jersey off. Super Street.

Super Street. Been a lot of trash games this season. Been a lot of trash games every season. But how much do games like this mean for the league? For the league? For the game, Just for the game? For the game fans? Are you going to stop questioning me?

No, I'm just saying, like, your wording. Like, the league, like, why the fuck would they? Adam Silver's trying to get this bread, Gil, so he can, as a subsidiary of that, Gil's Arena presented by Adam Silver. I mean, for the benefits off a good basketball. The average, more than average fan wants, they'd rather watch games like this every single time. For sure. And nobody want to watch a blowout, right? You want your team to win, but you want it to win in this fashion. So as a fan, these are the kind of games that we all get excited for, you know, because we get to feel like we're a part of it. Yeah. Well, and not to mention the fact that, yeah, it's the Lakers and Golden State,

but it's Steph and LeBron, right? Like that's what people want to talk about, and that's what people want to see. And this was one of those games I was like sitting there seeing people on Twitter. They're like, let's go to three overtimes. And it was. I think this is great for the league to answer your question.

Thank you, Cheryl. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Gil does what he want to do. You're welcome. Kyle, you are great. Kiel does what he want to do. You're a great guest. We will keep bringing you on to bring balance to the force. Can you just, as a basketball fan, seeing games like this,

I know you've seen a lot of basketball in your life. How much does it mean to you now, post-career, just to be able to watch? Damn, nigga, you acting like I'm motherfucking 85. I'm just going to stop talking. Y'all got it. Y'all got it. Here you it. Y'all got it. Just fine. Y'all got it. Me and you can have a conversation, because he's still here. I feel like we're all, like, we've seen a lot about Ma in our career. Even in our age now, we're able to watch these games and still appreciate. He's a few extra of 85.

Like, you know, still great looking, still thriving. So I was at a wake on Saturday, right? I didn't know that. RIP Bryce, man. But the fellas that was there, they were Lakers fans, right? We had the wake, and they watching on their phones. Everybody, like, they surrounded by one. And they just watching the game. You know what I'm saying?

It was a celebration, but everybody was watching the game because, like, you just hear, like, the excitement, and everybody, oh, oh, oh, oh. Like, I was over to the side I was mm-hmm I hear him but I don't know I can watch you later but I'm just just to hear it like how they were so into it and as the average fan man out of game needs this it's for legacy for the history of the game that'll go down to one of the greater games. So yeah, no, it's good for the game. It's good for the league. It's good basketball to watch, man.

They have two greats out there who we all know, first Ballot Hall of Famers, for them to keep battling throughout this, this duration that they have been. Knowing to be able to be around, to see it and appreciate it. Like, appreciate greatness. Mm-hmm.

That's what we witness with that. You're appreciating guys making game-winning plays and showing people that, I'm saying, that people still care about the end result. For sure. That's what that was about. And then to see Steph's reaction after right, you know everything that you need to know about him and how

How this rivalry is and how he care about winning and in certain things man So that was it was good to see this robbery's been going on for nearly a decade now Obviously they don't play the same position, but we've got to see them go at each other Where does the LeBron StephSteph rivalry rank all time? You said it. That because they don't play the same position, it's kind of hard to really rank the two versus each other. Because, you know, they're being great, you know, at the same time playing different positions. And I think that's what makes this game so amazing because both the people that everyone came to see

are playing very well. They're doing whatever it takes to win. And that's why sometimes when referees kick out the best player, this is what you take away from. Yeah. You take away from this the moment that we got the seed. You know, Steph hitting his threes, his dagger threes, LeBron getting to the... We missed that.

Yep. Where does it rank? But we're talking about Larry Bird and Magic also didn't play the same positions, but... Well, hold on. Let's stop. God damn, Josiah. No, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no. If y'all coming for me today, I'm still getting a check. The question of that whole era, the question of that is, why the fuck weren't they actually... They were both small forwards. They were both small forwards in a sense, but they never really was compared to each other on the small forward side, which is weird, because they were both small forwards. One was

a small forward PG, one was a straight small forward, but they were both small forwards. It's not like he was guarding the point guard. He was guarding... Whatever. I mean, It's not like he was guarding the point guard. He was guarding... Whatever. I mean, it's not

for me, it's not a top... But it's not a top five rivalry for me. You think Brown is still not top five? No. I mean, Rasheed versus the refs. Still number one? Chris Paul versus Rondo. Chris Paul versus Scott Foster. you know, Chris Paul versus Rondo

You know Draymond versus fucking everybody at this point Yeah, but I think the finals matchups and It's up there but It was a nice mid off though this game, you know, both the teams are struggling Versus Denver, I mean So you mentioned Draymond Draymond was being Draymond as usual and the antiques were on full display on national TV We got a few over here later for quarter And I said the same thing when I saw it What which part we can then to build more for now? No fuck all

Okay, stop. Stop. Stop. Stop the bullshit. He's just stopped the bullshit. Him, yeah. Him, yeah. Okay, everybody saw I hit the motherfucker in his face. It was a fucking accident. It was. So, no, Vanderbilt. It was an accident. No, so Vanderbilt, like, he called me old bitch-ass nigga.

This nigga asking for a fucking review. Nigga, shut up. Like, you trying to get me suspended again, nigga. Like, that's what Draymond thinking. Like, shut your bitch-ass up. Like, you trying to get me suspended again, nigga? Like, that's what Draymond thinking. Like, shut your bitch ass up. LeBron also asked for the review. But no, he wasn't adamant, but he didn't see him. He looked at Vanderbilt.

No, what I'm saying is LeBron can see him. Vanderbilt all the way at the other end, so he can't see that he got you. Yeah, like, and you animated about it. Like, you walk from this end, keep doing the shit. Like, man, shut your bitch ass Can't stand niggas like And LeBron doing it is very different That's all like that's basically what the fuck he doing in that moment like you like you fucking you tattletale ass nigga Try to get me pitch and man. I can't be mad at bet. He gave us 14 and 9 Thank you. I was still questioning why he was in at the end of the game. Snitch ass nigga. He had 14 to 9, so, you know, I got to give me.

He was feeling himself. He was probably, yeah, he was probably. Because when I saw him doing it, I thought the exact same thing that Draymond said to me. You bitch ass nigga, like. Yeah. Like, shut your ass up, dude. Like, I'm just not getting, it was an accident. It was an accident.

I didn't try to hit him, and of course it's going to be what it is. Yeah. Because it's Draymond. And you putting salt... You adding fuel on it, dude. Yeah. But even like that,

like, if they would have called a... If they would have called, like, a figure or something, they would have been wrong. Because he had the ball here and moved it. Right? He's going... He's going for the ball. Yeah, he's going for the ball here and moved it, right? He's going. He's going for the ball.

Yeah, he's going for the ball. Yeah, and therefore, I'm going for it, and you doing all this extra, like, dude. You say you're a competitor, Kane, as a competitor. No, dude. They blew the whistle, man. We need this win, though. That was going to get done.

I don't. Now I need to question Yeah, I'm not gonna question him right now because he's ballin. Oh D Davis. Mm-hmm I'm not gonna question him right now right now. Yeah, he's balling But if that motherfucker fall on the ground and grab some shit, right? I'm pissed cuz we just say you get hit in the face and you took it when she was a fucking free throws, right? It was cool. I don't want to see you fall and start grabbing shit no more All right, you just got hit in the face and it looked like it hurt, right?

And you walked on down there shot the free throw. So I don't want to see No, I don't want to see all Let's be honest do do this Way he was walking off to the back? Like, I thought he was done. Yeah. Then he came back in the game. Does it actually hurt?

Huh? When you get hit in the game, does it actually hurt? When you get hit in the game? Depends on where you get hit by. Depends on who you get hit by. Where you get hit and who you get hit by. Man, listen. I get hit by Steve Kerr.

No, that shit don't hurt. I get hit by you, yeah. Depends on where Steve Kerr. Get his shit don't hurt. I get hit by you. Yeah Depends on what Steve Kerr get his ass out of here He's a violent one Get him out Yeah, I know what Van was doing Shit there's a minute left and King is out here still get him out It's the end of the game dog

Like it's the end of the game if it's the first's the end of the game. Like, it's the end of the game. If it's the first quarter you had, I would have gave him a little more leeway. Uh-huh. Dude, I just don't do you already. You know my reputation out here, though. But you just said you took a charge, and you got hit in the chin, and you never took a charge again. So, yes, it hurts. Not a real one.

Not a real one. But it really hurts sometimes. Certain things, absolutely. But that, yeah, I got hit. Who hits you where you get hit? Yeah. Most of the time. But that. hit yeah Most of that no, no, yeah, some of them dudes get like that all the time Yeah, oh yeah, I'm out of shit. Like oh, yeah, that's white by me. Oh, yeah down I'm gonna call it

You gonna try to get it the first on it died Nah, he didn't hit you, Gil. I'm standing right here. Referee be like, nah, he didn't hit you. Hey, that swipe up and you, almost got me, oh no. Even he didn't even react to it until after he saw Vanderbilt do it on his, then all of a sudden he was like, oh, shit. He didn't, he didn't.

That rivalry with the pom-poms with Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, man, it's that, though. But that's what makes you know because it comes from a play like You know my reputation I like, you know What the leap what people think about me are like so I got a problem with people like that like you know Don't do that dog. Yeah, I don't add I'm already I'm hanging on by a thread out this bitch I'm like I do I just lost two three million. Mm-hmm and you are asking for a fucking review cuz I hit him it do yeah

No Bitch exactly what you got called in the moment what you was acting like he on the warning list I'm on the warning list guy One suspect right now you're trying to get me fine and and kicked out. We playing motherfucking B. Scott. Loose ball, I go up, I hit Melvin Eli in the face. They don't call or nothing during the game, but I got him good. It was a good one.

I knew out here because he just grabbed me in the moment, but they got on the bus after the fight, and he was in pain, so he's screaming and shit, right? So come to find out, I cracked his orbital bone. Yeah out which I felt bad out like I Motherfuckers called the league dog We let we back to back we got on the plane went to San Antonio Then I'm getting ready to go to the game. I'm getting dressed in the hotel Yeah, we got a call yeah, you been suspended for tonight's game.

You snitch ass motherfuckers. Like, the league didn't see nothing in that moment. They didn't call nothing in the moment. Yeah. So they sent the tape in? Absolutely. Absolutely. Like they did Odo.

Yeah. You ain't gonna be hitting shit once once the league get older this take me hey van we good We good right now 14 now bring that energy for when seven bring that energy. No three Yes, sir Back door slice it and cut boy you might need my dog right now, baby Prince You can take your motherfucking zero somewhere else Oh Twenty something zero two shots gave up fuck you give it up You think I went into a game thing and I'm gonna make my first two. Oh no. I just got 18 more loaded. Damn it. I hate when you just give up.

That means if you make your first one, that means you're going to shoot some more. I don't like 50% players. I call people like that 50%, right? Like them high and low type of dudes, right? They're hitting shots. They hype like a mug. When they're missing shots, you don't.

And I'm like, well, shit, damn it. 50% of your games, you're not going to make the first shot shot so that means if you're not gonna make the first shot it's a bad game for you should I always think I'm about to start oh and three oh and three three and three three and ten That's all the same thing. That's all the same shit to me. You gonna keep shooting at us? Getting them shots up. I'm kidding. I had one of them, trust me. Them three for? Them four for 17. I had three for 23.

Three for 23. Oh! Damn. But that's what I'm saying. I'd rather have that. I know. But I'd rather have that though. In the finals.

Damn. Oh. Three for 23. Okay, them 20 you missed. What the fuck was you doing? Same shit I was doing before that. I made my first list. Date this one. No, it's not that. No, it's you missed, what the fuck was you doing?

Same shit I was doing before that. I made my first list. I think I started the game either two for three. That's like, yo, there it is. It's one of those games. Yes, I thought it was going to be a good one. The next one got to go in. The next one got to go in.

You know what? The next one got to go gotta go so you was doing Turnaround jumpers no not a floating up. Oh my normal shit. Yeah, cuz Shaq was back down. It was Tim Duncan but no, I was still This way yeah, there's a rough one. That's a rough night at the office. Yeah, that's a horrible game That's what you can't even feel bad about. You done, whatever, whatever, whatever your thought process was during real time, you done, you feel it. God damn. Shit. And what makes it worse, if I'm not mistaken, I think Bill Walton doing the motherfucking. Game. He was doing the game. Oh yeah, he killed

you. Roasting my ass. So let's move back to Steph and just talk about the All-Star game. All-Star starters were announced last week. Steph Curry and Jalen Brunson, two of the biggest nubs. We got the... Wait, what? What? The fuck did you just say? No, I heard the first one.

Steph Curry and Jalen Brunson. For not starting. Despite your feelings about Nick's fans... For not starting, right? Despite your feelings about Knicks fans. I'm going to get me a piece of candy. Get two. Despite your feelings about Knicks fans, Jalen Brunson's been balling this year.

Welcome to Gil's Arena. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Jalen Brunson's been balling. So we got the East and West starters. This one? Yep, whatever it is. Gil has walked out of the arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. All right, switch it back to Lexi.

Now switch it back to Gil. Thanks. Damn, I'm talking about you. Wow. Gil, your personal opinions. It ain't no personal opinion. What is it? Starting in the All-Star game.

Fan voting. How'd he get snubbed? Because it's not just fan voting. How'd he get snubbed from fan voting? 50 just fan voting. How'd he get snubbed from fan voting? 50% fan vote, 25% media, 25% player. Okay, he didn't even get the 50% of the fan vote. Finished fifth, I believe, in fan voting. Yeah.

Much more support. What you do after that? Much more support on the player media side. It is way to go. I do not make the rules. I just... So he was fifth before anybody else got involved, he was fifth.

Fifth. Fan voting. So I don't give a fuck what the other two entities do. You're five., he was fifth. Fifth. Fan voting. So I don't give a fuck what the other two entities do. You're five. It don't matter. It don't matter. What they do after that, you're five. So let's switch it to Steph.

Steph, second in fan voting. I don't get that one. So first time since 2013, went healthy that he's not starting in the All-Star game. Had second highest votes among Western Conference players. Finished third in player voting behind SGA and Luka. Fourth in the media voting. Wait, what'd you say? Behind who? Steph finished third in player voting. Oh, player. Player, the players. But behind who? SGA and Luka. Shea Gildress Alexander and Luka Dodger. And fourth in the media vote behind SGA, Luka, and Ant-Man.

Wow. I honestly don't see... I get where the fans voted, because the way them other guys are playing right now, the way Shea is playing, I don't have a problem with it. I wish they would have just left it the same, let the fans vote. Just leave...

Just left the shit where it is. Okay. Let the fans vote and leave leave, just left the shit where it is. Okay. Let the fans vote and leave that, but they didn't and now you have shit like this to deal with, so. I have, the problem I have with this is

you're preserving history by doing stupid shit like this. Yeah. Right, you're preserving the history that's supposed to be broken. What happens is all-star voting was from the fans. Now you want to

alter the present and say, all right, we're going to do it this way. 50% fans and then we get to alter it now. Then you're messing up my history to preserve everybody else's, because that means if we start going, if we look at it how we're looking at it right now, that means Michael Jordan doesn't have 14 All Stars, he only has 11. When he hurt his foot, he got voted as a starter.

He got voted as a starter. Take that away. 2001, take that away. Or the 2002, the 2003, take both those away because he wasn't better than Paul Pierce and those guys those years. Right? So we're going to take what the fans vote for and then switch it. All the history that was calculated has to be... What was the reason behind switching it? Because I don't know that.

It's weighted, basically. So 50% fan vote, 25% player, 25% media. So fan vote counts for 50%. But then what was the reason? What was the reason? For who, Steph? No, what was the reason for the league switching? Involving the motherfuckers who shouldn't be voting on it

Yes, because fan because some of those years where somebody didn't Play but they had this big fan support got voted in, you know a couple years with Carter Rebalance to the market players, right? You playing a major market odds. Are you gonna have a heavier skewer fans? Don't yeah, it's It fans don't yeah it's faint like and it's all star game like it's like to me Steph Curry is like he is an all-star game do you know what I mean like people want to see the big draw yeah he is that one's that one's kind of crazy but that's I'm saying this popularity that was that is the point of my greatness.

My greatness has me like this. When we say small market, get your weight up. LeBron was in a small market. That's fair. Get your fucking weight up. That is the point of longevity. He should be on this team, though. Now that I'm looking at it, I ain't even looking at the names.

I'm looking at, I ain't even looking at the names. I'm looking at the picture. Right? I'm looking at the picture of the West, right? Wow. He deserves to be on that picture. Right? And that's the part. Everybody else on the, everybody here won their votes but Steph.

I mean, Steph won his vote. He's the only one out. Yeah, I take back what I said. He deserves to be on here, dog. I mean, mean, it's a having a great year, but he's But yeah, but like it's it's it's a fan vote right that the coaches the coaches you vote as you like you do everybody Right when Kobe got his first all-star in 98, right? Take that away Right, he wasn't he wasn't an all-star the fans voted him in so he't an all-star. The fans voted him in. So he gets an all-star. Shit, the 2014, he didn't earn that one. 2016, he didn't earn that one. So those are three

all-stars. So if you're going to start doing that, because there could be a situation that let's say you're a fan favorite, right? And at the towards the end of people's careers right? They're still being voted in mm-hmm and like Charles Barkley Where he averaged fucking what 19 and 7 and started over car Malone was average damn near 30 right now what happens is if you take me out of the starting lineup and You put this guy in because of how he's playing like okay? I won't make the reserve because of my stats any fucking way.

So I got voted as an all-star, but not an all-star anymore. Right, that's what I'm saying. That's happened in the past, and that's what I'm saying. That's crazy. These guys with these 14, 15, 16 all-star votes, and, I mean, all-star appearances, when in reality, you only got 11. You know, when Vince Carter was you know didn't didn't

play half those years you know one of those years he could have been if you're gonna do that for all-star game let's talk about postseason awards who's voting on that I'm just saying I mean I wish I mean I wish that she would be honest I mean low-key I wish she was in when I played wow because I was a one-time All-Star, but the two times that I was a... What's the name, man? I was better than Grant Hill and Vince that year because I was an all-NBA player. They wasn't, right?

Both years. So one year, it would have been me and Dwyane Wade, not Vince and Grant, right? The next year, same thing. I didn't get voted in. I didn't get voted in. I didn't even make it in the reserves, but the fact that I was averaging 29 and we was fifth,

I'd have been subbed in as a starter over the guys that... So you can see it both ways. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, but that's not the way history was done. And that's what I'm saying, you're altering it. I don't like when something's been established and you alter it. And then when you look back, like even with the centers, right?

Centers averaging 12 and 7, and they're starting an all-star game. And then you take that away from these new centers and say, yeah, we're going to bunch you guys up as front court players. Like, no, dog. I was by myself in my center. It was just me and him. Just us two, year after year. What happened to that shit? Shaq, we already knew.

Shaq and Yao, that's it. Yeah. Shaq and Yao, who gonna be starting, who gonna be coming off the bench? Right? So to be that third guy, it was so hard. It was so hard to crack between those two

and then eventually it's like all right Shaq and y'all y'all gotta y'all gotta go in there with KG and Duncan now like oh shit that means whoever that third center was yeah sorry buddy you didn't switch the format on you that's the only thing I don't that's the only thing I don't like about it so let's talk a little bit about some other news uh going down to All-Star Weekend. Three-point champion Steph Curry and Sabrina Inescu will square off in a three-point competition in All-Star Weekend. Inescu set the three-point record at the WNBA All-Star Weekend last July, 37 out of a possible 40 points. She went 25 of 27 in the Shots made.

So, Cheryl, I'm going to start with you. Who's winning that competition competition Steph or Sabrina. Oh I'm a huge Steph Curry fan I am But I got a role with Sabrina, okay She do hold the record I'm just saying ready for what? The three-point competition most points in this current new format with all the sorry balls and all that other good stuff going on

She shot the lights out What line they shooting from again, you know, I know they ain't shooting from our like the NBA line Okay, are y'all are shooting from our line. Oh, so you're gonna put curry at there. So I'm just saying So you can put to put Curry closer? Sabrina can shoot from the NBA line. She ain't going to have no record. She might. Curry going to block her.

I don't know the rule. What line are they shooting from? That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know. Are they going to... She should shoot from her WNBA three-point line. Steph should shoot from the NBA three-point line. She should use the WNBA ball. Steph line steps to shoot from the NBA three-point line? She's used the WNBA ball Stephanie's the NBA ball

I think that's but wasn't it Steph that Tweeted something that they had a mic tough and it may or may not have been he was miked up before a game Yeah, I kind of did this whole thing. It was gills arena shootout They seen Lexi out there they saw Alexi better than him. Yep. They seen. Age of 12. I was like, okay. I was like, okay. Yeah.

It's set up. So is it just going to be them two? Not really sure how it's going to break down. All Star weekend has been a little mid. Different. Yeah. For the past few years. Are they trying to change it up?

They're trying to spice things up a little bit. I can ask this. I mean. Hopefully underdog has the higher or lower, is cracking. I can ask this. I mean. Hopefully, underdog has the higher lowers, Cracker. I'm just saying. Just hear me out. So, she can come to our three-point contest, right? And then try to get a win.

Can we go to theirs? We will. You know, if Clay Thompson's like, yeah, I want to get in on this one. We don't really have All-Star weekend, though. Damn. Joanna Clay. So, we don't have All-Star weekend like that. We have All-Star weekend, though. Damn. Joanna Clay. So we don't have an All-Star weekend like that. We have All-Star Day, pretty much.

It was turnt up. Just a Friday. Vegas was turnt up. But it also depends on where the All-Star game is. Yeah, it was just like a random Tuesday. Vegas was nice, but some of the other cities, it's different. WMA All-Star is very different from NBA All-Star. We've had a game on like, I don't know, like a Wednesday afternoon.

It's comical. Like, I did the same thing. I was like, how the hell do we have an All-Star day? And it's in the summer. That's terrible. Oh, yeah, no. Yeah, you're right. It was in the summer.

It was in the summer. But you don't't yeah, you don't get to laugh like that It's during summer is there is summer league bad. It'll it was right before it was right after some league, right? I think the final weekend of summer during yeah But Vegas like by their organization and they do it right. So, when it was in Vegas, it was good. Phoenix this year. We did. Like, it was like a Wednesday. Like, nobody showed up.

Like, even former players didn't show up because that's a joke to me. Yeah, you should have it definitely on the weekend. So, Phoenix this year. Are you looking forward to Phoenix? Solid weather. What day is it? Hopefully, it's a Saturday. I don't know. Seriously.

Hold on. We're going to see. Let me check. I don't even know. Saturday, July 20th. Okay. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Am I looking forward to it? I haven't made any play. What time? 6 a.m., 7 a.m.? They better have you four-side. I'm just saying. I'm saying. Fucking tip.

Four-side VIP. Tip. 8 a.m. Four-side VIP. They got the game at 8 a. Tip. 8 a.m. Four-side VIP. They got the game at 8 a.m. 8 a.m. Feed on the quarter if you want. Let you get some jumpers up if you feel the need.

If you feel so inclined. Is that just a standard? Sorry, dude. I apologize. It's been a rough day for me today. I'm trying to get it back. No, I'm just trying to understand. I'm just saying.

Just. WMA All-Star is just different. I'm just telling. WNBA All-Star is just different. I'm just telling you. It's not like NBA All-Star. Okay. Last year was probably the first year that they actually took care of former players where we got to sit core side. Oh, you're saying from that standpoint.

Yeah. So things I'm saying are basic have been complex. Yes. Okay. I thought you was mad at me. No, I'm just thinking like... I'm just thinking like... Right, if I'm organizing...

It should just happen. But it... Do you want to get some jumpers though? Hold on, time out. For what? Just to see. For what? If that thing's still thingy.

Oh, it's still thingy. Okay. That ain't... Never your question? I don't even need to practice. But are you appreciating the way that thing... I'm just playing after I fuck Gil. No, I'm just saying. Okay, I think never you need to practice Are you are you appreciating the way that? Are you least appreciate to see the changes that are being made because I think that's been a big issue in recent Absolutely to now like alright, we're finally starting to show the love that is pretty, you know.

No doubt. Seems pretty basic. Yeah. Okay, that's where I'm at. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't, I know dudes would be mad, but I wouldn't mind if some of the WNBA girls

actually competed. In the NBA three-point contest? In the NBA three-point contest. If y'all don't have one, shit, come on down in. They're going to make it exciting. Yeah, they would. We had one, I think last year was the first year.

Ooh, teams. They used to do that at NBA All-Star, though. Do you remember? Team? Three-point? Like the real three-point? It was like the... Not that sad.

It was the skill set or no? No, at NBA All-Star when they brought a WNBA player, a current NBA player, and a legend NBA player. And they played like three-on-three? No, it was NBA player, and a legend NBA player. And he played like three on three? No, it was like a shooting contest. Yeah. They stopped doing it. Well, get it back.

So let's move to the women's side. It's a great idea. We have royalty here with us. Yeah, it's a good idea. Team shootout. Yeah, it's a great idea. So there was a battle in the Bayou Thursday night. Topsy to South Carolina took on defending champion LSU.

South Carolina won the game and women's basketball won the night. The numbers came back in. So the South Carolina LSU game beat the NBA in head-to-head viewership on Thursday. It's the night's most watched sporting event on TV. So, Sher, what does it mean to you to see how much the women's game has grown in the past few decades, especially the past few years now, booting the NBA out the paint? Well, first of all, I don't...

Like, when you look at the comparison, right, and you see that the South Carolina game outdrew, South Carolina LSU outdrew the NBA, like, yeah, you look at those numbers and people are like, oh, my God, this is great. But I'm like, why do we even have to make that comparison?

First of all, good basketball is good basketball. And that South Carolina LSU game was probably one of the best games I've seen in a very long time. That's period. And then you have the Golden State Lakers game,

but that was a good game too. For me, I think the fact that people are talking about it and not just women's basketball, not just women like we're talking about it. To me, it just shows how far the game has come, how far the game has grown. And it's good. It's exciting. I know when people talk about the NBA and they talk about men's basketball,

a lot of it is like shit talking. That happens in women's basketball too. And people like to see that. I think so many times people look at women and they see us playing and they're like, oh, they're so nice and they're so sweet. Did you watch that game? Because wasn't that nice and sweet about that game? Is that because of the WNBA tries to control the narrative on how much trash talking you guys? I'll be honest with you. I don't know. But I do think there's just this perception or misconception of who we are just as women.

I like to compete. I'm a lot like Kenyon. Just because I'm retired don't mean I don't compete anymore. I'm gonna talk shit to you and it happens. To me, that's part of sports. It doesn't matter if you're a man, if you're a woman, that's part of sports. But I thought watching this South Carolina LSU game I think there were people who tuned in that have probably never really watched a women's game before and to see that I

Think was really really good for the game The pettiness is OD and inspiring. I'm saying away the state in that game. It was I'm what was petty about No, I'm just saying. In that game it was? What was petty about? No, I'm just saying, but you see it in the league. There was a lot of pettiness in that game. Yeah, I just want to know what you thought it was.

I mean, the stare down, the injuries getting stared down, but going back at each other and for me, just to be able to watch that, I'm a fan of just good entertainment.

Yeah. And I think on that side, the entertainment value is very, very high. I even watched the tournament last year and just, it was Kaitlyn Clark going to Angel,

whatever it may be, like, you know, Don Staley saying, oh, they call me boo. Yeah, I'll tell you, for me, yeah, the game was entertaining, but, like, to see what Don has done, what she continues to do for the game, for women, for black women, like, her being in the position she's in.

And like, Donna's just real. Like, I don't know if you, like you said, I don't know if you've listened to the press conference or not, but the reporter was like, they weren't very nice to you. And Don was like, actually, they were calling me boo. Like, I don't know if a lot of people understood that. But I was like, like, like Donna's just good for the culture.

And to see what she's done and her story and where she's come from. And now to be in a position where she can actually mentor these young women and and change, change their lives. Right. And really put our game at a place where, like, really, it's never really been before. And you have so many people talking about it and getting behind it like Don Don has been a huge part of the growth of our game in the last few years And she got South Carolina. She got South Carolina rocking that thing. So top-ranked team in the country. Does anybody want smoke? Smoke that nigga. Some smoke for Don Steppin. We see I don't like some $15,000, $20,000. Dropping gems over there nigga. $15,000 to $20,000 pants I don't know. I wear basic shorts. You saw that too?

I'm not in that price point but I appreciate high quality fashion really stunning in Baton Rouge on Kim O'Keefe. Because Kim O'Keefe be trying to rock some fits too, but not really feeling her. That ain't mine. It's not? It's for her. It ain't for me. Don, like...

So let me put this out there. I'm a fan of good basketball, period. But there are also teams and people that I pull extra hard for and and Don is one of those people because we have a history right played together in the WNBA for a couple years played together Olympic team so for me to not want to see my sister like be great and yes I wanted them to win but I wanted a good good game. And it was just good to see. Like Dawn was so cool and calm on the sideline, and I was in front of the TV telling her what to do.

I was like, Dawn, here's my question. Did you watch the game? Did you watch the game? I watched the game. Did you watch the game? I did not. Here's my question. Even if you didn't watch it, you can answer this.

If Angel Reese doesn't foul out, does South Carolina win the game? Because somebody asked me that. So I'm asking you. I don't deal in hypotheticals. Yeah. I would gravitate towards that she would have brought some energy and maybe helped them get back over the top.

Obviously, they tricked that lead late in the game. Maybe, but I don't know. Like, again, it sounds great to put that squad out there, but LSU's kind of had some issues this year anyway, so I don't know. Like, again, like, it sounds great to put that squad out there, but LSU's kind of had some issues this year anyway, so I don't think it's a given. That's what I said. I don't think that particular play when she fouled out lost the game, right?

There was so much other stuff that happened in the game that I felt like... I don't even feel like they lost the game. I feel like South Carolina won. Like, they made big plays, especially Bree Hall at the end. Like, she hadn't shot the ball well the whole game. And to come in and hit three threes in a row, like, it was just good. God, it was good.

Good. Do you think the individual personalities in college is what's getting everybody excited versus... Some of the things, like you got Andrew... Yeah. Reese is a personality. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? You have Dan... Caitlin Clarke. You got her and her shooting. Right? So do you think it's that, that what's making everybody gravitate to it, then you have the great play? I do. Right?

I do. Because people want to see that. And people also want to know that there's a connection there, right? They can relate. Like, Caitlin Clark is absolutely one of the best shooters that I've seen in college. I'm not going to say ever, but that I've seen in college. And then, yes, you have Angel Reese. When you say she's a personality, Angel is Angel.

And people, you either love her or you hate her, right? But Angel is going to be Angel. So I do think because they show that, they're not afraid to show that, people see it and they're like, okay, let me tune in a little bit and see what this is all about. But I think that helps our game. I don't think it hurts it at all. And that, like with the W.

It's different. Like it seems like they, because, you know, I follow a lot of them on IG and when their season's over with, that's when you see the personalities. When they're beefing about overseas and I crushed your ass over and they're sitting there going back and forth and that's hilarious

I'm like, where's this during the season so we can see this and it's like you're more doubt You know because you're those kids and family friend friendly league, you know and I'm like, so they say if if they look at the algorithm and just stats the most iconic moment I'm sorry to say it, but it was when the Vegas girls, right? Who? Colson. Sydney. Sydney.

And Asia. Asia was on the bench. Oh, yeah. That was the most viewed thing to me. but you got to see them do something besides Like you got to see a personality and everybody thought that was see that on them on the men's side all the time Mm-hmm, and it's very rare. I Don't know it kind of boggles my mind why why we we feel like are my mind why we feel like, or they,

but why we feel like we have to be a certain way during the season when we're playing and not really be who we are, like not allow people to see that side. I don't understand it, so I can't answer that question for you. That just caught it boom a leaves Asia elbow see Coach coming coach coming and they both were like as soon as she leave

Like that's real like that's a real emotion and it got caught in that just I mean that was That was iconic just I mean it was iconic because it's like everybody we we get it cuz when coach comes you shut the fuck up And if we back everybody does it's like we never see you in that type of environment. It's always studious for some reason Yeah. I don't know. Most women basketballers fight. I don't understand that. Because they push, they attract families. Yeah, they're trying to sell to a certain... But why is it wrong for families to see that? It's not. Right? There's nothing wrong with it, but it's...

Even like Draymond Green, right? When he was like, shut your bitch ass up. We can hear it. All hear it. We can hear it. And then it was another game where it was who got fouled. And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled?

And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, who got fouled? And then it was like, shut your bitch ass up, right? We can hear it. All hear it. We can hear it. And then it was another game where it was who got fouled.

I don't know if it was Trey. No, Mello. Mello got hit. And him and somebody was going at it. Whitmore. Whitmore. And I don't know. I can't remember what he said, but it was like, ooh.

Very intense language. Yeah, but, huh? Soft ass. Soft ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I do... Can't turn that down. I think some of it is to your point, right?

Like it's family friendly, kids are coming. And that's happening because the tickets are more affordable than to take an entire family to an NBA game, right? But I do think it's trying to portray this image of, oh, look how sweet our players are.

When reality is, like, I'll say when I played, and even now, like, it's a lot of, like, I don't rock with you like that. Right? So, like, I'm not going to pretend like, oh, my God, look, you just elbowed me in my nose, and that's okay. Do you know what I mean? Like, because it's not okay. And that's still the case today.

Like, there are players in the league that are like, no, I don't rock with you like that. So, like, I don't like you. You don't like me. That's cool. But let's not act like we love each other because the cameras are on. Let's get the mics on it. Put the mics on it.

You just want to hear everything. Yeah. Come on. Let's get these ratings up. Did you hear what she called it? Tune in next game. It's true. No, it's true.

It's true. No, it's true. It's true. Because that happened with, that happened in college last year with Angel and Caitlin. Yeah. All this, you know, right? That's what I'm saying. It's like Woody. And that became a storyline and everybody was like, oh my God. She's not supposed to do that.

Did you see that? Did you see that? That's what I'm saying. She needs to be a lady. Yeah. Yeah. Show sportsmanship and be a gracious winner. Oh man, shut lady. Yeah. Show sportsmanship in his mat. Be a gracious winner.

Oh, man, shut up. You ain't never won shit before in your life. That's true. You ain't never competed before in your life. That's just like the whole handshaking stuff. Like, you just beat me. I do not want to go through a line and shake your head. Yeah, they trying to portray this thing. And even before a game.

Like, I'm trying to beat you. I don't want to. But that's what I said. Where's the, like, they're trying to portray this thing. And even before a game. You're a lady. I'm trying to beat you. You're a lady. But that's what I said. Where's the, like, they're not doing their research? Like, W, y'all not doing the research on what's selling? Right? If something happens in your game to the point where it goes viral, what do you think happens

the next time those two entities play? It's true. Yeah. Like when Draymond play. True. Yeah. Like when Draymond Green came back. Yeah. When he plays, if he plays Timberwolves again. So, absolutely. Viewers go, you should watch.

We want to see if a choke part two will happen. There's a reason why South Carolina LSU drew 1.5 million viewers. Right? Not to mention the fact that South Carolina is the drew 1.5 million viewers. Right? Not to mention the fact that South Carolina is the only undefeated Division I team in women's basketball right now. But there's a whole storyline with Angel Reese and Kim Malky and all the stuff that's going on with LSU this season and what Dawn's doing. And so people are like, you know what? I've heard about this and I've heard about this. I'm going to tune in so I can watch and see what happens. You know? So when you look at

Kaitlyn Clark and what she's doing now on the verge of breaking Kelsey Plum's record, obviously generational college basketball career, how do you think her game will translate to the W? So that's a two-part question for me. Because I say this, yes, records are made and set to be broken. But if you're going to break a record, this isn't just for Kaitlyn, but you asked me about Kaitlyn, if you're going to break a record, to me, if it's legitimate, you have to break that record in the same amount of time that that player set it. Okay. Right?

So if Kelsey Plum set that record in four years, well, Kaitlyn should have broke that record in four years. But because there's a COVID year, then there's another year, you know what I mean? So she's already had an extra year to break that record. So is it truly a broken record? I don't know. You think exactly how I... I don't think so, but yeah, that'll go in the record books

as Caitlin Clark is the all-time, whatever it is. I don't even know what the number is, but that's the way it'll be. And I don't think it should be. And the sad part is, that record would never be broken because no one's going to... There'll never be another COVID year.

Well, hopefully not. There's never going to be probably another five or six years you can play in college sports. Yeah. Right? And that's the thing about it, right? Like,

it should be a whole separate entity. Right? Like, this record is this record because of five years or it has a fifth year So whoever's playing five years y'all in this lane, right? The red normal is here Yeah, and it's not to take anything away from what she's done but if you're talking about breaking records Then this is if this player did it in this amount of time, then you should do it in that same amount of time.

So that's my thought on that. This is not NBA, folks. We're not talking about NBA where you play 10 years and I play 20 years. That's not the same. We can only play four years, right? If we're there five years, goddammit, we redshirted. We're not allowed to play.

There's no stats. In the COVID year, all of us are just different. COVID year, I get to play and I'm like, oh, COVID happened. I'm going to come back next year and I'm the same three. What? But you averaged 35 last year. I'm going to average 35 again. Because to your point, here's

the other thing. So she can come back another year. She has another year where she can come back. She doesn't have to go. So what year is this for her? So this is her, this is her, she's a senior. She's a senior. She's a senior, but...

I think her COVID year was last year. Or this year. I don't know. She can come back another year. I just know some of those had chances of playing six years. But let's also talk about how much more experience that gives you over other players coming in, right? So people say, dang, like he or she's killing them.

But you have a 25-year-old playing against a 20-year-old. Like, you should be killing them. Yeah. Because you've been doing it a lot longer than they have. Yeah. So I'm not sure. But I know she can come back another year. Yeah, this is her fourth season, so she would be... Oh, she'd be legit.

Oh, she can just come back one more year if she decided to. Yes, so that would be her COVID year. And so she has said she doesn't know if she's leaving or if she's coming back. Okay. So these stats matter matter that next year's that that should just be like we don't even count that's true that is true she's supposed to get it by some some point early february based on her current project which she she probably will yeah because she like she can shoot the basketball no doubt about it so here here's my question and i

and i'm gonna or my answer to your question. How will that translate to the WNBA? So before I answer that, I'm going to go back to something I said before when you asked me the same thing about Angel. And so what I had said was I think Angel will eventually be a good pro. I don't think Angel will come into the league immediately and dominate the way people think she will. And I say that for people who have never watched a WNBA game. It's good. Like there's talent. Like these women can play. And because there are very few roster spots. Like it's a real job. So people look at new players coming in, whether that's out of

college, players who've been overseas, and they look at that and say, oh, you trying to come take my job? Like, no, it's not going to be that easy. So will Kaitlyn Clark be a good pro? Absolutely. Will Kaitlyn Clark come into the WNBA and do what she's doing right now? Immediately? Absolutely not. Not going to happen. Okay. Not on the right team? Like one of the bottom feeding teams? So to answer that question, Caitlin Clark right now probably takes about 40 shots a game. I know you like that. Hell yeah. I said that because when she comes to the league,

regardless of what team she goes to that has vets on that team, she probably ain't going to get 40 shots a game. Or they don't get to stand on the number one? She might, but I don't... I'm number one pick. This is my team. They don't get to do that over there, huh? See, that's that NBA shit, huh?

But here's the other thing that I know you don't want to talk about is the defense. Oh, yeah, y'all. No, no. I'm just... Like, you got to guard somebody.

You got to guard somebody. You got to guard somebody. But from even the worst team in the WNBA right now, there's talent on that roster, you know? And so there's a lot of talent coming in, and it's tough. Like, it's so tough to make a WNBA roster spot. Like, in some cases, even the player that was drafted fifth didn't make a WNBA team this year. So I do think those two players not only will get there,

where they will be hell of a WNBA players. They will get there. But more than that their popularity I Think will absolutely be good for the league in and bring in fans that the league hasn't had before and that Is something that the league needs right now? Yeah Sounds good. So before put Before we move on to most fans earlier in the show We were show, we were talking about Menace to Society, referencing a clip in a movie. Can you use some language that some of our viewers may not feel is appropriate?

Movie quotes. Anytime I say something on here, man, I ain't got no problem with nobody, man. Listen, let's just get this out there. I ain't got no problem with no people whatsoever. Anytime I quote a movie, it's quotable for movies, man. Okay. So I made a quote about John Cerell. About the quote from two minutes of society and did you talk about like yes yeah no

no whatever it is yes yes yeah just a movie man I watch a lot of movies man I said many quotes on this show before and I'm Katrina quote movies man so I got no problem nobody I see nobody What's well, but the chat was no just a position. I don't know but just y'all in his mission Oh, they're in the building. Yeah We were talking on those lines We're talking about the movie by snitching and there was chances to tape in and what he called me Yeah, no problem with nobody man Live from a movie. Yes. We're not here to offend anybody. Not at all. We love everybody

I'll be trying to offend people. I'm Again we apologize anybody who's offended by absolutely good Wow. Yeah, absolutely. Nah, ain't no. Who calls, who texts y'all? Is it in the group chat? I don't know if it's in the group chat. Let's move on to mostly fans now. I don't know if it's in the group chat. Yeah, look at that.

Look at. Oh. Yeah, see. But, oh, good. But, yeah. But, again, nah. Movie, yes. But, again, now I can't. Movie quotables. Quoting a movie, we appreciate you for acknowledging that, though.

Yeah. Let's move on to Mosey fans. Like I said, if anybody was offended, my part is not nobody's intention. Especially not mine, man, to offend nobody. So, first question is from a Mosey fan user by the name of Jackson Door. I can tell you, if I say something, I'm not apologizing. They can just, you know, y'all can text. All y'all want, I'm not apologizing for nothing.

Video question. Never done. I've been canceled. What up, Lexi's Arena crew? I had a question. Since Gil brought in all of, I mean, Agent 12 brought in all of Jordan's memorabilia this past week, I was curious, what's everyone's favorite piece's memorabilia this past week. I was curious, what's everyone's favorite piece of memorabilia they

have, either of themselves, like their game-worn stuff, or someone else? Since Gil, since Gil, you said you got one from everyone after the game. I'm curious, what was the hardest one to get for you? Thanks, guys. Love. This might be the second white person we've got

to submit a Mosey fans to the show. Oh, you can't say white. You can't. You gotta say- Caucasian? You gotta, oh, I don't know if you can say Caucasian. You gotta say human. What's your favorite piece of memorabilia that you own?

Oh, da da da da da da da. Oh, yeah. I mean, looking now, right, was a funny thing to do. I mean, I mean, looking now, right, was a funny thing to do. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, Oh, da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh, yeah. I mean, looking now, right, what's so funny is, thinking about it now, I guess the Jordan stuff is, because that was his last uniform he ever put on as a basketball player, and, you know, warm-up suit, practice suit, that's it, right? He can't come back, and we know that now. He can't come practice suit, that's it. He can't come back and we know that now.

He can't come back so that's it. Dang, that's tough. So how much you selling that for at Sotheby's? Give, five minutes. Okay, personally my personal favorite will be Penny Hardaway. Penny Hardaway wore the all white foam posits at a game. They wasn't actually out. They were just, he was just wearing them.

And I hit him up and said, yo, my birthday's coming up. Can I get those? Right, and he signed them and sent them to me. How about that? And then eventually, like a year later, they actually started releasing them. But the ones he wore, that was my favorite player growing up. OK.

Pennywise? Yeah. Sheryl, what's your favorite piece of memorabilia that you own? I thought you were going to say the sign showing a food jersey that's now made as well. I kept trying to send them that way. I'm trying.

Didn't go there. Dang. I have two. Can I have two? You can have two. Because that's hard. My first one would be a signed photo of me and Barack Obama. First black president ever.

Only. I know. I know. I said ever. Oh, yeah. Anyway. There ain't gonna be no more, huh? No. Ever. Probably not. Probably not, but I didn't want to say it. I see. Dang. I was trying to keep it, I was trying to put it out there, but, and my Hall of Famering.

Okay. Baller? No, but, because I worked my ass off for it. So, yeah, that would be it. Okay, how about yourself? What's your favorite piece of memorabilia that you own or someone else that you have in your possession?

My high school diploma. Why are you laughing so hard? That's an important achievement. I know. Important accomplishment. Like a motherfucker, boy. Hey, listen, Jack. They didn't expect me to get out of high school.

God, listen, boy. Hey, man, I wasn't students at all. I went to who? Shit, listen, Jack. Listen. He laughed hard about that, too. Oh, shit. No, but something that don't belong.

No, that was that don't belong, no, that was, because Bill Russell didn't sign shit for nobody. Mm. So I got a Bill Russell basketball. Yeah, so. Mm. Yeah, he didn't sign.

They smeared doodle on his wall. He did sign or did? No, he didn't sign autographs. Okay. I wouldn't either. But he wouldn't sign. They smeared doodle on my wall. I'm not signing me. I wouldn't either. But he wouldn't sign it. Chase Mirduto on my wall. I'm not signing it. I got one early.

I think it was after my rookie year or my second year or something. Wow. What was the hardest piece of memorabilia that you had to get? What's your prized possession in terms of having to put in the work? She mentioned Barack. The only NBA game he's ever been to is when Chicago Bulls came. The chair he sat in- You took the chair. Had it signed.

No. I have the chair. Gary, this boy thinks I signed it. How do you think about that during the game? I know, right? I want that chair. I'm going to get that chair. I'm going to get that chair.

Motherfucker out there is running plays like- Okay, I'm going to get that chair. For those in the audience calling, Cap, can you retrieve the Obama chair and bring it to the show tomorrow because of course they're saying cap this Whenever the Wizards in the playoffs I always said in it Yeah, but on the sign see where do you sign it at the? Yeah. But on the signed seat, where'd he sign it at? The back part. Okay. I'm about to sign it. You can't put your cheeks on an Obama signature, so I'm glad it's the back area.

Oh, dang. You got to respect it. How do you get that? Like, how? Hey, Mr. Obama. Duh. And Secret Service didn't have you up? I mean, I'm the black president.

I'm the black president. Come on. If they see you coming out of Obama's chair. I was the original black president. I was the original black president. Don't send this to the black president. If they see you coming out of a bubble with a chair. I was the original black president. I was the original black president. Don't send this to the White House. I get it back like seven months later. So our next question, video question from underdog user T-Mac.

Nice. T-E-E. This is a question for everybody on the panel. What's the hardest system that you had to play in, the most complex system? And what's the hardest injury you had to come back from? He got a pillow in his car seat. You hear the boy got kicked out the house. Hey, hey, hey, we know this, boy.

Girl done kicked your ass out. So what's the hardest system that you had to run in the league, I believe, and what's the hardest injury to come back from? Hardest system? I mean, had to run in the league, I believe, and what's the hardest injury to come back from? Hardest system? I mean, at first it was the Princeton, right? You know, growing up, you're not used to the Princeton, so learning it as an NBA player, realizing that everyone had to be basketball smart.

There was no just being a goddamn athlete trying to run offense and everybody, because you needed all five players to be on the same Page so, you know, that was difficult, especially my first year in Washington and The hardest injury to come back from goddamnit. I'm still trying to come back from it. Right? So I guess Michael fracture The fact that you can laugh about it, Gil, that's why I appreciate working on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Wow. Oh, you're waiting on me? Oh, you know. The hardest system, I pretty much played in pretty much easy systems, but I would say playing in 96 on the Olympic team with Tara Vanderveer, like she just threw so much stuff at us every day.

And then playing, I think lots of times people think because you're playing with some of the best, right, to ever play that it's got to be easy. But that was actually harder for me, playing with the Lisa Leslie's, Dawn Staley, Teresa Edwards, like some of the best that's ever played, and playing for a coach I've never played for before, and she's just like, here's what we're going to do.

And you've got to go out there, and you're expected to pick it up that fast. That was probably the toughest for me. Injury, I had two. My ACL was really tough, but the biggest one was I had back surgery. And I came back and played one year after that and knew I was done. Yeah. That is a tough one. Yeah. Recover from. Kane, how about yourself? What's the hardest system that you had to run and

what's the hardest injury to come back from? Yeah, same system, Gil. Yeah, the Princeton shit. It was good, though. Why is everybody... It's serious, because why is everybody running Princeton like Princeton was nice? Same coach. Same coach. But I'm the same coach.

But why do we act like Princeton had this... No, because it was ran in college, and they were effective running it, but you didn't expect to be running that in the league. But that's because they didn't have real talent, what I'm saying, like, narratively, right? Yes, and we had talent. Now, if I have real hope, we're like... Yeah, that's tough to do. Yeah, and then Gil's point.

If you're not basketball smart, your IQ is minimal, then this is not going to work. You got to, you got to, because it's moving parts. It's moving parts. There was no, hey, just go sit in the corner. There was none of that. I'm dribbling to you. You're supposed to be back door or come get the hand off. And you're just sitting there.

That messes me up. Time to play. Now I got to be smart enough to, oh, shit, he dumb. Let me go ahead and spin. And hopefully the guy I spin to know the back door. If he don't back door shit, I'm out there looking stupid. Yeah. Man, get out there just wilder.

Nah, that'd be it. But on a serious note, how hard is that to run? Everybody can't run in the Princeton office. That's what I'm saying. Everybody can't run it. We run an office where you got dumb players on your team that struggle to remember players. Because it feels like at every level of basketball. Well, we were good.

Well, we had, our team, when we were running, we were good. Yeah, it was. Like, we had smart players. Okay. Like, we had J. Kid, Kerry, RJ. Y'all could run. Twin at the five. I had myself. Like, I started, like, we.

I remember that's, this is, so we went to the playoffs. So, Eddie took us to the, y'all playoff games, the 03, 04, first round. He was like, oh, yeah, watch how they run the offense. All right. Hey, man, our players ain't this smart. Let's just start there. We got some dummies on our team. Most of the lobs is twin to K-Mart, K-Mart, to Kmart Richard Jeffrey our players can't throw no goddamn lobs in her back today. Not this smart, bro

We got to switch our place on back door. Yeah, it was like you that's what I said because everyone in this all in prison Everyone does the same exact thing So I can have ten assists from the passes He can have ten assists from the past cuz he's gonna touch the ball Just as much as I'm gonna touch it for the most part. He can have 10 assists from the pass because he's going to touch the ball just as much as I'm going to touch it. For the most part, he's running the offense more than I am. Yeah, I can choose not to shoot it. Yep. So, you know, so

technically, in theory, the smartest person is the power forward. Okay. Well, supposed to be. That's Kenyon in the offense. That's Chris Webber in the offense because the ball goes to him and he dictates where we go next So I pass it cut now. I'm I'm worried about where he what he's gonna do if he dribbles this way

I got a follower if he drove this way I got to do this and right so it's all dictated on how long it take you to get comfortable in that position reading reading The deal like that. I'm Quick, bro. Easy. Yeah, I'm cerebral man. We're coming to this dog. I I see it on the fly. I Process it on the fly These are me mom. I'm so we playing them. They can't run the offense They can't run it cuz I'm calling I'm telling We already know what they running but when I got the play I'm telling what run out that the ball go don't let him catch

It no, and I'm missing all they plays up right deny him. Yeah, okay He gonna back off the spin like yo, hey, can we do something else can you hear can I just one full flat us up? Absolutely I have microfracture surgery to like yeah, I had had one on each knee so I'm the first person and come back and play from to this maybe don't yeah yeah only one yeah the only one actually is better only one yeah I want to come yeah, superhuman Normal people that we done. It took a lot of people out like that micro fragments a lot Ended a lot of dudes man. He went from 46 in vertical to 42, you know

38 to 31 Hey, that affects me like my first one was probably the worst one because I didn't know how to go. And like most guys, right? I didn't know how to attack the rehab. I had a BS doctor with the team back on the floor sooner than you should have been, right? So with the second one, I knew. I didn't listen to the team doctor. Outside source, like I went with the doctor who created the surgery. I went to him. And he made my rehab protocol. It was, so I didn't, the team, like the team doctor, after he botched my first one, he couldn't prescribe me Tylenol.

Like I could have a hangnail in that bitch. He's like, can you let him look at it, man? He can't touch me. Can't, nothing. I don't want to hear from him look at it, man? He can't touch me. Can't nothing. I don't want to hear from him. But yeah, no, that microfrag shit is real. Very real. Cheryl, we appreciate you pulling up to the arena.

We hope to do it again soon. I need more jerseys on the wall, Gil. I think every time you come, you got to boo somebody else and add another. I'm happy. This is for me. Did you notice it or did they show you? Oh, when I did yeah when I walked in I was like, oh Okay

I can't even get a jersey on the wall. He got a nigga practice jersey in this bitch Yeah, I gotta bring it Practice jersey on the wall. I can't even get a game jersey up here You do have a minute today Texas practice. You're gonna bring in, you know, I'm moving in it Well, I got you know, I like people like I got a oh y'all see the new one Hey show the new one or they knew it's old but the code I read it's based for it Cuz everybody I think people Get confused because I talk about somebody that I don't like. Mamba mentality joint.

Right, it's like the mamba one. So we got the... So when he switched to 24, he only signed 24 jerseys. That's number four out of the bunch, right? So I had, you know, there was a white one, purple, yellow one. I actually someone stole my white one. I gave the yellow one away. Right now it's online for 20 grand and I kept the purple one. You're going to see some MJ practice gear hitting the net. Like the mama. So I had to add the mama mentality and make it special for him. You're going to see some MJ practice gear in the net in the very near future but appreciate y'all as always

sure we'll just also overcome by her jersey on the wall overcome with emotions but now we gotta wait because you come so we got away throw the smoke so we could smoke all right this is what we do on gills really present behind her dog fantasy back again you know still missing Lexi's arena Looking forward to the next gill shootout so Lexi can one again. See here you go. See see that they think I'm lying Just go online Type it in 24 Well, what does that work? What it is like car day something?

Hmm. What does this a very damn is it? It was like car day something. What does it say right there? Carpe diem. Huh? Is it carpe diem? Yeah, it's like car day per diem. Yeah, whatever. Car day per diem. Whatever, yeah.

Whatever Italian word that is. Some car day per diem. Yeah, you go to eBay right now and type that in. The one you see there is mine. Mine. Somebody take your shit, Gil? No, I gave it away. You gave it away?

Yeah, I gave it away. Damn. You'll see it on there right now for 20 grand. Wait, what? A Gil's Arena giveaway? No, it was No Chill Gil. Oh, okay. See?

When I started on my YouTube. So you would have consulted me. Mm-hmm. Because it came with a knockoff. Yeah, I got some bean shoes, though, at the crib. Game worn. Signed them for KJ after one of the games we played out here. I only got like a few people.

I didn't ask people for shit. I got some Holger shit. I got some Tim Duncan shit. Bill Russell. Michael Jordan. I got a baseball card collection. Like, of like, them guys are, rookie cards, like Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax, like, I got, man, them were, like, rookie cards, like that. Like me, when I was collect, when I

started my collection, I had the Bill Russells, Larry Bird, I had all them guys, Magic and all that stuff, there's, you know, Magic Dream Team jersey right there, and I got that just from, you know, playing in the summer, but for the most part, when I looked at a jersey, and I seen some of those go Bill Russell and Wilt. Yeah, I'm with you. There's no memory. I don't know what the fuck. I never played against you, never watched you play.

And I got rid of them, kept the ones that when I look at, I can remember the battle. Yeah, I'm with you. Makes sense. God is good, ladies and gentlemen. Makes sense. In the arena, another Monday. How we feeling?

F***. I can't stand this nigga, man. I really can't. So while we wait, let's talk LeBron. Played against 10 father-son duos in his career, one of those being you and KJ. What does that just mean about his legacy that literally father and son

have had to see LeBron in this NBA? Played against 35% of people that's actually come through the league. Shit, that's... Well, he's... No, yeah, but, yeah, it says a lot, man. Longevity means everything. Like, for you to be able to be capable to still play.

Mm-hmm. Not the fact that you're playing at a high level, but to be capable to play. You heard what we all went through? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Surges. I had both of my knees worked on, both of my ankles worked on, of my ankles worked on my wrists

Do put our bodies through hell right and for that man still to be doing it and to say that he played against Ten different father-son combinations and 35% of people that's come through the NBA Put your hat to him man because people don't Don't last as long Well, it will it be 11 11 with Gil and Elijah Arenas? Will he stay that long? It should be 11 next year. Huh?

Yeah, for sure. You already know. Somebody coming through. There's a few guys coming through in the next year. Oh, yeah, I got some. Oh, you didn't even talk about Brunson. Like, when I was saying Brunson shouldn't be starting remember. I'm going off the old school thinking of The fans vote for the star. Yeah

50 25 25 he ended up tied for second with Dame But Dame got the tiebreaker because Dame had the fan vote Yeah, now the problem I have the problem what I have with this new style in a sense is Most players don't like each other. So they're going to make it worse with this shit. Right, so they can make it worse. And then the media, too, they hold grudges against players. Right?

You know, so when you look at someone like Trey Young, right, he was voted a starter. Of course he's going to get pushed out. The players don't like him, nor does the media. So, yeah, you're a fan favorite from the fans, which starters are, and then you get taken out by two entities that's going to hold you back. Why the players don't like him? Because he be busting their ass and talking shit? Yep.

Damn. I mean, think about it. Damn. You don't like him because I've been busting your ass? Busting your ass. Now I get to say something whether you make the All-Star team or not. Now imagine. Wow. Russell don't like cuz I've been bushing. Yeah busting your ass now I get a say so in whether you make the all-star Now look now imagine Wow Russell Westbrooks makes the all-star game as a starter from the fans. You already know. Yeah

Remember he's the most hated by the players just like me sure Yeah, let us think about it sure young is the most hated by the players when they voted him They voted him with the best ninth. It's like 12th or something. 12th guard. There's only got 12th guard in East. That's hate. Second best scorer, number one in assists. Yeah, that's hate. So those are the people that's going to be voting for him.

And then same thing with the media. So that's bad. It is bad. It's a cold gun. And then half the media, and then when it comes to media Happened 90% of the media's New York fans Low-key right so who you think they gonna vote for if it's The media they have their favorites yeah, you know, but you know most of the media is coming from that New York area

So you have a lot of butter East Coast Yeah, just keep it back to the fans. Just keep it back. That's what I'm saying. There's so much corruption that can happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to just... Just go with the paper balance. Keep it simple.

You got to pull up to the arena. But if it just... If there's no fans and we're just going off of who's playing well, then you have Brunson's in that conversation. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. Then you know, Brunson's in that conversation where you're talking about who's playing well, but, you know,

the starting five has never went off of that algorithm. Of playing well. Of playing well. You know, there's motherfuckers in there that average 13 and 6,

and they starting. Damn, boy, he got a good, whoo, he got a good machine behind him. He's a plant. Steph should be starting. Yeah, Steph should be starting.

Yeah. Steph should be starting. Steph should be starting. Cheryl, we appreciate you pulling up. You're welcome. Second time. Thank you. If you do it five times, you get a jacket.

Yes and no. If you get your five time, Gil's a ring. I'm just telling you, it's going to happen. He just made that shit up. And now he going to make me just go out there and find a goddamn jacket. Any way that I can make Gil spend his hard-earned money in support of a show's arena presented by her. You know she would. I'm going to figure out how I can have a Cheryl's arena.

We know some people. At Lexi's arena. We know some people. You said you can shoot, right? All you got to do is just test it. I'm not going to have two cold nights. I can tell you. I done twisted it.

I had it on cold. Now it's on lukewarm right now. It's on lukewarm. Oh, my gosh. That was so funny. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Well, we will see y'all on Tuesday. You got 12. Outro Music