Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down The Play-In Games In The East

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down The Play-In Games In The East as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Philadelphia 76ers taking down the Miami Heat and discuss what Jimmy Butler's injury means for the Heat as they must battle their way into NBA playoffs. They also break down the Chicago Bulls win over Atlanta Hawks as Coby White led the way with a career game and might've played Trae Young out of his Hawks uniform. Other NBA Topics include, Caitlin Clark's awkward interaction with a reporter and record setting Nike Contract, The WNBA Draft and Jontay Porter's lifetime ban from the NBA for gambling. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Tune Into Sheed & Tyler - https://youtube.com/live/_FL5vZCEg9g?feature=share APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:47 Red Lobster Goes Under 0:08:04 How Jontay Porter Shouldve Cheated The System 0:13:56 Will Caitlin Clark or Wemby Have A Bigger Impact? 0:22:30 Caitlin's Weird Press Conference 0:37:19 Caitlin Clark's Nike Deal 0:39:49 Jimmy Butler's Injury Cost The Heat 0:45:53 Previewing Knicks vs Sixers 0:49:38 Smart For Embiid To Keep Playing? 0:56:43 Jimmy Butler Limps Out Of The Playoffs 1:02:38 Coby White Sends The Hawks Home 1:07:39 Andre Drummond Hurts Alex Caruso 1:13:47 Future For Trae Young & The Hawks 1:17:25 Better Fit For Trae? Lakers or Spurs? 1:26:46 Examining Classic Big 3 Teams 1:32:43 How NBA Mindsets Change in The Playoffs 1:39:44 Who gets Upset in Rd 1 of NBA Playoffs? 1:51:30 Wildest NBA Playoff Prediction 1:56:49 Redesigning The Hall of Fame 2:03:12 MostlyFans 2:24:31 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me and they didn't even fucking know me. This is my story. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice

or the locker room. Change is zero. Change again. change welcome back to gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! We got some energy today. Let's get it. We got, it's our Friday. It's Thursday for y'all.

It's our Friday. We are turnt up. An exciting night of Eastern Conference basketball last night. My team out. Atlanta gone. Oh, man. Warriors. One down.

So you got one. Trey might be gone, too. Bam. Well, my team's going to be out. What's your two teams? Warriors and the Heat. Oh, you out. So you out.

Warriors out. And then who? Bam. Yeah. Looking slow for my goals in Dade County right now. It's some unfortunate situations we will discuss on this very show. But this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.

What's up, Gil? What's up? Just regular. Stamps missed. Your fist been going crazy. You're a little bit more expensive. Your fist been going crazy this season. Yes, sir.

They're expensively free. Expensively free. God is good. We got Lexi Brown. Back on the couch. Thanks, guys. No problem. There's some gentlemen out there waiting for that flight confirmation,

but we will discuss later in the show. We got two-time NBA champ Norris Cole back here with us. And representing a tough crowd, Mr. B, Brandon Janik. Bucks and Six, we will see. This side is getting a crack at it. Yes, sir. Okay. You said what? It's the winning side, you know what I mean?

What did you say? Mr. Bucks and Six. I have the Bucks. Okay, but. He's Mr. Lakers and Six. Come on, get your shit together. Gilbert. Get your shit together.

Brandon Janik, Bucks legend. I mean, unless you're going to let us. Bucks legend. What I'm saying is Come on, get your shit together. Gilbert. Get your shit together. Brandon Jennings. Bucs legend. Bucs legend. What I'm saying is unless you're going to allow us to change. I'm about to say we can trade because that was weak. Can we trade? No. You can have that shit. We can trade.

We can give him the Bucs. Listen, you can have the Lakers here. You can give him the Lakers. You're a Doc Rivers. You want to have a mid-postseason trade? Super fan. I should be able to do that, right? I can trade you.

I mean, the playoffs ain't started yet. Get one pick. I can give you a 2028 pick. First round. And then I can give you free tickets to a Beyonce concert or Taylor Swift, depending on what you like. Oh, Beyonce for sure. For my Lakers and you get the Bucs. Nah, I want you to cheer for the Bucs.

Wow. As the Adam Silver of this show. We all want to. Nah. As the Adam Silver of this show, Trey Vetoed. You don't get to watch Freak'Em Dress live. You don't get to watch Freak'Em Dress live. You know she pops it low on Freak'Em Dress.

Trey Vetoed. Nah, that's better. I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope we the Bucks win the championship. See, there you go. Because you can't come to the parade. Because you can't come to the parade. It ain't your team. Can Gil take your spot at the parade?

I'm being there with my shirt off. With the tough crowd on. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Sixers beat the Heat to take the seventh seed. But will Embiid's knee hold up against the Knicks? And are the Heat cooked without playoff Jimmy?

Kobe White cooked Atlanta to keep the Bulls season alive, but did Trey Young play his last game with the Hawks? And Kaitlyn Clark had her introductory press conference

with the Indiana Fever, and things got weird. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GIL.

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wherever you get your podcasts from. So quick, before we get into basketball, some sad news to report. Red Lobster may be facing bankruptcy in the near future. The biscuits gone? The Cheddar Bay biscuits. Is that sad news? Oh, no, I never tasted that.

Exactly. Shut up. Oh, y'all know. Well, the popular seafood chain, which has long been a staple of the black community. I've never been to Red Lobster either. What? You've never been? No.

In life? In life. So no Red Lobster, no Applebee's? I've been to Applebee's. They don't have it in Boston? They don't have... What does that have to do with anything? Because if you stayed on that coast, like there's just certain stuff you don't get.

Like Red Lobster? I don't know. I don't know either. Like, I've never had, like, White Castle. They don't have that here. That's not... Why are you comparing Red Lobster to White Castle? Red Lobster...

There's restaurants that's there that's not here. There's a Red Lobster down the street. There's Red Lobsters everywhere. Did you never go to... She's not from here. Okay, but what I'm... There are Red Lobsters on the East Coast. There are Red Lobsters all over the planet? Mm-hmm. So what restaurant is in the East to she's not from here okay but what i'm but they're red lobsters

all over the planet so what restaurant is in the east because that's not here he would know bojangles y'all got like bojangles y'all got pin station out here what is that what is it pin station pin station are we talking about fast food or like restaurants subway and jersey mics yeah itation's kinda like that. Potbelly. I don't know where those are. They got one right here for you. They don't have potbellies out here?

They have one in Phoenix. I don't know if they have them in LA though. The Chattanooga, there's some restaurants. They finna bring one though. I just saw that. They about to bring one. I don't. Bojangles? I just saw that. They're about to bring one. Yeah, they about to. I don't like Bojangles, but...

So, y'all been to Red Lobster River? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Give us a Red Lobster. You never went to the Red Lobster on Wilshire Boulevard back in the day? You said where? The Red Lobster on Wilshire, Gil. They used to be crackin'.

First of all, I didn't go past City Walk. That's fair. I never went past City Walk. 101 always? Yeah, I never went past City Walk. 101 always? Yeah, I never went past. We went to Venice Beach, but we just stayed. I'm going to miss the biscuits.

That's what I'm going to miss. I didn't even go to Burbank. I didn't even know Burbank was right there. They're not the same, though. That's the only thing from Red Lobster I've had. So Red Lobster had $11 million in losses last year after their ultimate endless shrimp promotion backfiredfire too many people was getting a free shrimp It was not a good idea in this economy

What so how did they get lost what they lost they had to go back because they lost 11 million dollars with their unlimited Too many trees much free shrimp do our community if it's free it's for me That insert your chicken hold the Kardashian shit, right? What is that? An hour into it, we're sold out. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. Stay three nights this summer at Best Western

and get $50 off a future stay. Life's a trip. Make the most of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. Say it before the next day. That's how they get you at IHOP with the... I'm sold out. of it at Best Western. Visit bestwestern.com for complete terms and conditions. That's how they get you at IHOP. I'm sold out. The pancakes. As soon as we start, sold out.

Get your ass in here. They need to bring you in on the marketing team. They're really giving out... Come on, man. Kardashians did it all the time, man. As soon as they hit the market, boom, sold out 15 minutes later. Food and clothes are different. Nobody bought nothing. Then they re-released it, and then that's where the real sales come.

So, this side of the couch, Red Lobster. Right. This side of the couch, no Red Lobster. What was your favorite chain restaurant growing up, though? Norm's. Yeah! Right? Norm's is fire. Norm's, baby! They're never close. Norm's is fire. Norm's, baby. They never close.

Norm is fire. What's close thing? Yeah, Norm is fire. Denny's cousin. Norm, yeah, it's like, yeah, so, but, you know, basketball, right? You bring your backpack, have your Tupperware, your parents made you bring your Tupperware, and you just fill it up, bring it all home. So you know, that's how my dad fed the hood.

I like this restaurant called Perkins. It's breakfast. My grandma used to take us. Perk? Perkins. Mm. Mm-hmm. I like this restaurant called Perkin's. It's breakfast. My grandma used to take us. Perk? Perkin's. Perkin's. This side of the couch, favorite chain restaurants when you were growing up? Sizzler from White Man Can't Jump.

You already know. Sizzler. We going Sizzler. We going. And Chucky. Sizzler fell off, but it's still. Yeah, you say that to us all the time. Red Lobster might have been my favorite chain restaurant. It was like a gourmet experience back in the day. Norm's is trash. Red Lobster my favorite chain restaurant. It was like a gourmet experience back in the day. Yeah norms is trash It's all you can eat like think about when you're looking your

Basketball team all you can eat that means we fill up and we get to take shit home put in your backpack We had going Corral like that over on the oh, yeah You take me take a buyer team there Tupperware biscuits bro whoo eating for three days your producer once you know that norms isn't all you can eat right norms is a diner it's over there in Beverly Hills all Oh, you can eat No, it's not worse is a diner You know they have the buffet right? It's like Danny's uncle Shakey's back in the day No, which one had the big is no racket norms at the buffet Clearly not they're telling you they did. Chuck E. Cheese got good pizza. You sure? I haven't had Chuck E. Cheese pizza in a while.

Chuck E. Cheese is fine. You sure it wasn't all you can eat back then in the 90s? Wait till my kids want to go. Hell yeah. Yo, it was not. We're verifying right now. No, it was not. It's like Norm's uncle.

Norm's is Denny's uncle, Gil. So it's breakfast food? Wait, so they didn't have like a buffet where you can go up there and grab your food? It wasn't like pay once and eat tripping for you, right Roscoe's chicken and waffles. No, I mean Rockefeller RPA mama early early early elbows off the table. I got that in the West Coast Rocko. Somebody said the same thing What the fuck is perks? It's like Perkins Perkins Perkins it was in Orlando. They got one in Minneapolis.

Chuck E. Cheese is the shit, too. I ain't even gonna lie. The pizza was fired. The pizza's still fired. So, Red Lobster's taking an L. Speaking of taking L's, former Raptors forward, Jontae Porter, has been banned from the NBA for providing gamblers with confidential

information, limiting his participation for at least one game while he was on the Raptors, and betting on games. So a league investigation found that prior to the Raptors' March 20th game, Porter disclosed confidential information about his own health status to an individual he knew to be an NBA better, another individual with whom Porter associated and knew to be an NBA better, subsequently placed an $80,000 parlay prop bet to win $1.1 million, wagering that Porter would underperform in the March 20 game. But the winnings were frozen and never paid. And Porter also bet on at least 13 games from a friend's account,

but none of the bets involved games Porter played in. So NBA commissioner Adam Silver said the following about the band There is nothing more important than protecting the integrity of NBA competition for our fans our teams and everyone associated with our sport Which is why John Tate Porter's blatant violations of our games rules are being met with the most severe punishment So Porter made about two million in his NBA career played in basketball and about twenty thousand dollars from his gambling. Jeez. So... Okay.

That's the help he needs. When you say cooked... And you say dumb. That's a dummy. It's a dummy this because if you're going to bet on yourself, bet on the up. Yeah.

Right? Four points, two rebounds, three assists. I want the higher. Right? I'm going to go out there and be very aggressive. I'm going to be stat padding, 1,000%. I'm not going to have four points. I'm averaging four points and then make a $10,000 bet to go under four points, I'm averaging four points, and then make a $10,000 bet to go under four points. Because at the end of the day,

if I'm doing that the whole season and I average two points now, that reflects my contract. Right now, I'm on a minimum. No! I'm averaging four. I'm trying to get 78. He knew he wasn't going to play, though. He played 20 minutes

a game. But that particular one, he knew he wasn't going to play though. He played 20 minutes a game. But that particular one, he knew he wasn't going to play. No. No, he got out with an injury. You can see. What's so funny is you can see. Was it a real injury? No.

A fake injury? Yeah. He did that because he knew the parlay. 80,000 for 1.1 million. He was trying to. 80. No, that's crazy. That's too loud, bro.

That's like, that's Green's red flag. Why not 80,000 on the, if it's like eight points, eight total, go higher on that. You can just, you can- Don't do it at all. But you have no control over that. I do. What if he doesn't play? He claimed to be six when he left the game.

But he only averages four, so he actually was, it was more risky for him to go over. But that's what I'm saying, but he's averaging four. He can't 100% control being under with his fake injury. What I'm saying is he's averaged four, but he's averaging four. He's averaging four. He's averaging four. He's averaging four. He's averaging four.

He's averaging four. He's averaging four. He's averaging four. He's averaging that's what I'm saying But he's averaging 100% control being under no one's fake injury What I'm saying is he's he's averaged for because of all the damn zeros he's getting so he's goes 19 minutes 20 minutes 19 minutes 3 19 minutes 20 minutes 19 minutes to right so what makes you think he was gonna be able to get above that because he was At that's what he was going to be able to get above that? Because he was averaging. That's what he was doing. He wouldn't... What I'm saying is he's averaging 19 minutes and then he has a total of 12

and then he's going into the game and then as soon as the game starts, ha, ha, oh, ah, I'm out. Yeah, because he's taking the under. Yeah, because he has 100% control of it. Why am I going to take the under? I'm messing up my long haul. Well, he wasn't thinking about that. Because now,'t because that of averaging eight nine he's down to four

So what was gonna do with that one point something just off that game? A better he knew he put down a drag on he got 25% Like if that's not a red flag, you brought it up. 25%. I'm just saying, if you're going to do it, do it to the point where you can. I can go, like, if I have a total of, like, 12, I can go get rebounds. I'm playing 20 minutes. I can fake passes and go score myself. I can be aggressive with it.

Maybe I'm out there playing real basketball before. These days, nobody gets involved. I'm out there with the Rosen today. One full flat. Switch it. Bring it down here. What are you talking about?

I'm not getting myself out of the game messing them ultimate stats up. That four points reflects the contract at end of the day You're not thinking man Tell me That was a horse punishment though two horse Too harsh? Lifetime? Hell no. You got to hit that. Yeah, you can't.

Nah. You got to hit. You got to make it. Basketball cardinal sin. Because think about it. Like, if he got three to five games, think about everybody else. Three to five? You're fucking about doing that.

Banned? Like, think about how he looks. $2,080,000. Well, how much did he personally? Hmm? How much did he personally? I2,080,000. Well, how much did he personally... How much did he personally... I profited $20,000. For a lifetime. So he took...

So he... Hey, hey. That's $41,000. Hey, oh my goodness. That's called... That's called baby mama activities. They will risk the bag that they have by outing the father to the point where he don't want to give a nothing.

If you just play nice, do your little thing, he gonna bless you. But you want to fight him in court, tell him how much he a bad dad be, and then you get penalized in the back end. Same thing, you risk the bag for pennies on the dollar so baby mama Porter Johnstay Porter brother my reporter Michael Porter Jr. Not involved in the board. Yeah, don't put no don't even say that ain't his brother. No No No

Don't even do that Don't even don the two together. Work with me real quick. He got to come out and say, hey, that's the brother from another mother. No, they can be aligned. Some chess. They can be aligned. Michael Porter Jr. not involved.

I think the league should investigate the Nuggets. Suspend them for two weeks. All their games. Thorough investigation. I don't care about that. Go ahead, Lakers. I'm a Bucs fan. Go ahead, Laker. I'm a Bucs fan. Go ahead, Laker.

I'm a Bucs fan. Go ahead, Laker. Laker hopefuls. Here we go. Yeah, but not a smart decision. And we've seen it at the NFL. We've seen it at the NBA. Dudes are getting caught for doing that.

This is not worth risking your entire career for. 20 grand? Like, let us do that. Like, let us do our higher, lowers, our pick-ems. They pay us for 20 minutes. And enjoy the sport. I'm saying 20 you wish you're risking you but that's what I'm saying Like well now you can actually do it for real ain't nobody betting with him He got no control now, yeah, he got no he'll know knows the guy not around here not around these parts. You gotta go overseas now Come on 20

Play if you doing this imagine you got the imagine you took the The over on yourself for assists and I know it I'm taking under on your assists They just break it under on your assists I don't know I don't know who the better was but you ain't gonna convince me to take less points with Y'all crazy as fuck out there, man. With 20 minutes? No. 20 minutes? With 20 minutes? If I had 20 minutes

when I was young, I was taking eight shots in three minutes. You don't have an ego about that. You would have known I was doing something because I'm fouling for no reason. Yeah.

I'm fouling. You need more reps. Yeah. I guarantee you if they was betting back then, they would have thought I was Doing something because I'm scoring a bucket 40 seconds left down 30 five Need your points good Wow motherfucker go shoot your free throw so I can get a bucket

You don't foul. Oh my bad One point two seconds mother fuck I'm gonna get that other Almost boy almost had the seven points. I'm going to get that other. Ah! Dang. Almost. Boy, I almost had the seven points. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Just be honest. I'm getting my goddamn shots. I'm trying to get that point up, average.

So on the heels of the WNBA draft doing a record 2.4 million viewers, number one overall pick, Kaitlyn Clark had her introductory press conference with the Indiana Fever on Wednesday. Good, no smoke for the WNBA draft doing 2.4 million viewers. Okay. Now we know what time it is. We don't have a thing. It's right there.

Oh. Which one do I press? Unlock. Woo. Y'all didn't. Yay. Okay, y'all didn't. Yay, 2.4.

Gotta unlock it. You gotta turn it off now. 2.4. Kaitlyn Yay, 2.4. Gotta unlock it. You gotta turn it off now. 2.4. Kaylee, 2.4. So, Kaylee, 2.4. Watched it? 2.4 million viewers, Gil. Watched the draft?

Broke the previous high of 600,000. They watched it. Wow. So, I take it that you were not... Mind you, that record was when Diana got drafted. Who? Diana Taurasi? Mm-hmm.

See, somebody didn't... You can double that. Huh see somebody didn't know that. Huh? Shit, more than doubles. I said, we asked last week who was going to have a bigger impact, Wamby or Kayla. Yeah. What are we talking about?

Wamby? Cap? Did you just hear what the number? What are we talking about, Q? You strapped in and do no numbers like that. Do you know the Spurs went up 500 million just getting the number one pick? The franchise went up 500 million. I need you one pick. The franchise went up 500

million. I need you to think. I need you to think larger. I need you to think larger. The franchise didn't even go up yet. I've been checking. Trust me. It's going to. Broader landscape. Oh, it's going to. They already drafted. When the Spurs got the number one pick

and it was going to be Wimby, it went up 500,000. She's already drafted. Gil. We don't know that. Where's that fax? Where's the fax to that? Where's the fax to that? They were worth $2.8

before they got the number one pick and then they're worth $3.2 billion now. Just about every year. That is neither here nor now. That's just about every year. But this team that is neither here nor there. I'm just saying, man, you know, impact. Well, we can say whose impact is going to be big. You got to wait to the end of the season

because we know what Wimby has done. His season's over with. So we have to wait for her. So if she don't play this. It's already happening. didn't sell out when they, every game didn't sell out when they drafted Wimby, bro. They got, they, they, they in motherfucking $100,000

stadium, man. You mean $100 but they got $100,000 stadium man $100,000 like how many people sit that motherfucker dome 50,000 Not I mean wizard wizard sold out they had to change venues that from their 4,000 seat arena to the 20,000 seat The Washington Mystics, good. 4,200. I mean, whoa. Whoa, please. Please. It's a start, bro.

It's a start. I mean, 5,000, they was going to have to switch. It's a start. Right. It's not a start. I mean, it's growing. It's growing. They was in the big arena before.

They was in the 20,000 before. So they bumped down to 4,200 to go back. I mean, Caitlyn Clark, her arena alone was 17,000. What is your, what's beef with the W? Like, what is the issue that you have with the WNBA? I don't like false narratives. What is the false narrative? Any false narrative.

Just like, oh, the Wizards had to get out of the arena to get the Mystics. The Mystics, Gil. I mean, I get you right. But what is a false narrative? Like, what narrative is false? Because I'm pretty sure the Mystics arena is the smallest arena in college basketball. If it was a college team, right? How big was your arena?

I don't know, 10,000? 10,000. Okay, but that's not the point. The point is, I'm asking you what the false narrative is. They had to move venues. What is false about them having to move venues for that game? Because they're making it seem like... She's moving a needle?

Yeah. But she is. Which is happening. We're literally watching it. Did you see her Nike contract she just got today? We're going to talk about that in a second. How much is it? A lot.

We're going to get there. Eight figures. But It's a lot. We're going to get there. Eight figures. But let's talk about yesterday first. So, Kalen had her... For her. You know, somebody got to start. You know, Jordan had to start before LeBron and everybody else started. Jordan had to start it.

Somebody had to start it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know that. Oh, okay. I know you know that. That's the thing. Someone has to start it. Yeah.

And we're going to see Gil at Louisville games next year rocking the age of She wrote Jersey, so this is all troll ladies and gentlemen you're a big-time WNBA fan We're gonna be at the Sparks game and that Applebee's afterwards legs I saw the jerseys just dropped I will be copying them Once they start expanding the teams open up one and done or high school, then you will see real money coming. I don't think one and done will do that. Expansion is coming. Why not?

One and done for the women's game? You see what it's doing to the men's game. Why would we do that to ourselves? What do you mean what it's doing to the men's game? It's ruining it. The money's going up. What league is it ruining? Y'all got to stop comparing what the NBA and us,

like we're two completely different things. No, it's who, the NBA was once you guys. Okay, but you're comparing the NBA of now to us when you're like you guys once were that. So you keep comparing us to what the NBA is today and we're not there yet. No, you're not even where NBA was in 2000 when they made the decision to go,

we're going to go after high school kids because these kids are moving the needles. Younger kids, younger generation wants to buy these jerseys versus the guys who's coming in the league at 22, 23. It was just a study that was happening. Well, the salaries have to go up before they change the rules. Just like the study on clothing. The clothing they're wearing now is kind of worse than when we got put into the Western a

The image of what Allen Iverson was bringing they had to change that look put us put everybody in suits soon as retire Okay, go back to wearing normal stuff Because it's not gonna get no worse than that So now look at the clothes that wearing motherfuckers got on robes, motherfucking booty shorts and shit. Nigga dresses. Yeah. Purses. And that is fashion now. When Allen Iverson wears sweatpants, getting his hair braided, they're like,

no, no, no, no. Right? So it's the image. You have to change the image to change the dollar. Right. If you've been doing it for the same 40-something years and nothing's changed... So how do you explain what is happening with Kaitlyn Clark? She was in college for four years. An anomaly, there's one.

I mean, Christian Lake, there's people that's been four years, but... Okay, but how is it, like... It can't be an anomaly if we've never, like... There has to be time. This is the first group, the NIL group. These are the first draftees of the real NIL. They were in college for four years. They're building their fan base.

This might be the first time we see college fan bases follow the W, which we've struggled to do that. Okay, but there's a... We still have to have the college game to build the women's stars to follow them to the W as of right now. Michael Jordan went to college, right? He came in, had it, bird. I mean, you have few people.

Life is proven. History is proven that there is... High school translate an easier path for the stars. Yeah, you can have a college fan base. Yeah, but eventually those college people become adults. Your fan base, but eventually those college people

become adults. Your fan base, when those kids are buying the jerseys, they're kids still. Are you going to go buy a Caitlyn Clark jersey? Probably not because you're a competitor of hers. I have to buy one for my daughters as a parent.

The people who consume the most product is the parents to their kids. Right? So if our kids, if the kids are 22, they're adults. Right? If they drop the jersey right now, Juju's college jersey and Kaitlyn Clark's,

they're going to damn near be on the same rise. Yeah, Kaitlyn might outer, but you're talking about... It's not because Juju's a freshman. It's because Juju's game is like that. They don't have to do with the age. Where's her fan base from? She got the West Coast?

Her fan base is all kids. Washington through high school. Both of them are fans of her kids. Yes, I've went to... We played... She was on the team. Two years. Sold out every arena we went to.

Caitlyn got little girls, too. Like, they both got kids. Yeah, but there's more. Youth has more. It's a proven fact. Nah. Like, they both got kids. Yeah, but there's more. Youth has more. It's a proven fact. Nah. Nah, youth... You said youth has more?

Youth watches more. High school girls want to be like high school girls. I don't think... They don't want to be like the WM. They want to be like

high school girls. That's what mimics. High school boys... I think it depends on the style. High school boys watch high school boys. Okay, well, now that this popular group are now becoming W players, right?

Okay, then what happens to the following year in the following year like you high school do really be like the best players period regardless And I guess all today's they move Steph they want to be like Steph Steph is not no little boy Brown ain't no little dude my little boy like like Jalen greens popularity came from high school He didn't play college. Yeah, but he hasn't really followed him that much in the league And if he's a good college player would have followed him to college too But that's what I'm saying. We can argue all day, but you can't argue the the facts of it There's a reason that the NBA decided to stay young

Our stars the stars in the last 40 years They started to be the stars in the last 40 years They started to be young The stars in the last 40 years are One and done, period I just think it's crazy that you Right, am I right? You don't think 22, 21 and 22 years old is young It is young That's very young

A few people who can be stars The rest of these young cats don't know how to play Two years in, then they G League Two years in, then they G League That's why the commissioner gotta to make changes about the development because these kids not ready on a whole scale. There are a few stars, but on a whole scale, these young cats is not ready. And the league is, the level of play is being diluted,

which is why they going overseas drafting pros from over there to try to come over here. And those pros overseas are what age? 18, 19. The first pick in the NBA draft this year is going to be 18 years old. Yeah, but they've been playing. Second pick is 19. Third 18, 19. The first pick in the NBA draft this year is going to be 18 years old. Yeah, but they've

been playing... Second pick is 19. Third pick, 19. No, I'm just saying all of them, though. 18. Like, you're not going to get a 21-year-old

until later in the lottery. You don't need stars, though. Everybody can't be a star. You've got to have players that can fit. And when you're trying to draft star kids and you've got a whole team

of what you think are going to be potential stars, they dilute the league, bro. Because they're not ready. Well, if you're a whole team of what you think gonna be potential stars they dilute the league bro because they're not ready like well if you're a lottery pick the last three years 75 of the draftees had to play in the g since when is that cool i'm sure when you get drafted first round you're supposed to be ready to play i mean if you're a lottery pick you're supposed to be a star back then that's every lottery pick is having to play in the g bro and i've been there

i've seen it but i'm like like, dang, that's crazy. It's just bad picking. They don't know what they're looking for. Or stop picking them so young if they're not phenoms. Kobe was a phenom. They don't know what a phenom is. But see, that's the difference. The difference is it's not that they're young.

You think Kobe wouldn't have been in the G League when he was a rookie? No. Kobe, his rookie year. There's no G League. If there was a G League, he wouldn't have spent some time in there? Fuck no. They was not. year. There's no G League. If there was a G League, he wouldn't have spent some time in there? Fuck no. There was no way Mitch Kupchak was putting him in that developmental bullshit.

They wanted him around pros. They can train him, watch him. He's a phenom. All these 19-year-olds that's getting drafted are not phenoms. I think draft the older player. That's what they're thinking. It's older players that know how to play. But that's the only thing that's out there, though. But that's what they're thinking. But that's the only thing that's out there, though. It ain't. It's older players that know how to play a role that you bring in that is okay with playing their role versus having a 19-year-old bringing in men. He's never had to play a role. He's only been a star. And then you're like, oh, he's not ready.

Two years, he's out the league forever. That's what's been happening. Okay, think of it like this, because this is how the thought process is, right? We'll stick with Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn's 22 going into process is, right? We'll stick with Caitlyn. Caitlyn's 22 going into the draft, right? If we would have took the same girl, right? She went to college. If I would have took her from high school and put her in a W,

four years, have these two girls play against each other, who would be the better pro? She would get humiliated. Yeah, the younger girl to come to the W and get humiliated probably. By herself. The same role, the same two girls,

when they meet each other at 22 years old, one was in pros for four years learning the program, one was in college. When they meet each other at 22,

who is the better player? The Iowa one. Yeah, that's what I said. The Iowa one would be a better player. Because she might never get to that point because her confidence might get... What if she doesn't get to year four? Right, that's what I'm saying.

We're not talking about what we're saying. No, that's reality. That's what's happening. No, it's not reality. We're saying you're giving her four years. But that's not what happens. You don't get four years. We're giving them four years.

Who is going to be the better player? Hypothetically, because that doesn't happen. There's no point in arguing it then. Because that's the way the NBA is thinking. I have a 21-year-old. Are we talking about the NBA or the WNBA? I'm having a 21-year-old who's coming in. I know what you look like at 21. This person

is 18 years old. If he works with me for three years in the NBA, when he's 21, is he going to be better than him? If the answer is yes in my mind fuck you I'm going 18 but that is how it is but then they get him and then by age 20 but that's not the thought process is but they need to change I have the person here in three years them working as an NBA player will they be better than this guy right now that's's how it looks. So you're averaging 21, right?

At 21, let's say you're 21, averaging 21. What that equates to at 18, if he's averaging 10 at 18, it equates to you're 21. Nah. Nah, that don't even make sense. No.

First of all, the NBA... I've had these conversations. I know that. So why are you drafting... That don't make sense, though. Okay, but it's clearly not working. It's not working. If it wasn't working... In the NBA, it's supposed to be the finished product. That's a potential league It's supposed to be the best of the best when you get there not the potential best and that's that's that's being done

But that's the thing and that's the difference between the NBA and the WNBA So you're up the WNBA you can leave right now getting drafted off your potential, but that's the problem Yes, I was out of problem. How is that a problem? We have the best players in the world. How is that a problem? Because there's a disconnect between your fan base and the product buyers. Okay, well now is going to be the first time we can actually see this all kind of on a level-ish playing field. I feel like...

I mean, if you're trying to raise contracts, you need product to be sold, right? So if the WNBA has a disconnect with the people who's supposed to be buying the product, then the problem is trying to figure out where is the disconnect. Right, and this year will be the year where we can actually see it, I think.

So we asked the chat who have a bigger impact this year, Winby or Kaitlyn Clark, nearly 3,000 votes, split 50-50. It don't matter because you have to wait till she's done. Okay, I'm just telling you. It's a rookie year to see who has a bigger impact. But being on Kaitlyn, she had her introductory press conference with the Fever yesterday. During an exchange with the Indianapolis Stars' Greg

Doyle, things got weird after they all hit Clark with her signature heart symbol. Hi. Caitlyn, Greg Doyle, Indy Star. Real quick, let me do this. You like that? I like that you're here. I like that you're here. I like that you're here.

I do that at my family after every game, so it's pretty cool. Okay, well, start doing it to me, and we'll get along just fine. So, question is... Okay. Yuck. So, Joyo later apologized for the exchange in a tweet, but it did not matter. He was promptly packed up.

What's your reaction to the... Oh, you just put in a nice draw. Yeah, he did. He said, do it to me, and we'll be cool from here. I'm going to write good about you all year. Yeah, that was odd. I mean, doing it was like, okay, cool, because that's something that she does,

but then it's like, all right. The explanation behind it was crazy. You just could have kept that. It was. That was some... The explanation... It actually is funny seeing. So what's the weirdest exchange that you guys have had with a reporter during your career?

Oh. Never had a weird one. Nothing like that? No. Mm-mm. Y'all know you have something. I don't give a weird one. No, I was a professional, dog.

Now, coming from a reporter asking you something ridiculous... Are you saying something ridiculous? I mean, too much. After I took about 30 shots What was your answer give I? Said how many shots that I take he said you you went 10 for 30 Do you consider that a lot? He's like yeah, but then you answer your own fucking question

The for you asking me for it, I mean, I didn't think it was enough. We didn't win. What the fuck are we talking about? I could have took at least ten more. No, the question is, do you think she's going to do it? To him? No. No.

I think other teams will do it to him as to troll. Man, see. I don't know what this man looks like. He, you know. That's definitely going to be a troll thing now. But see, that's the problem because he's a writer and if she don't do it to him. Man, see this man looks like she did you know? But see that's the problem because he's a writer and if she don't do it to Well, if he writes weird bad things about it people be like you're a super weirdo for some reason I think he'll get taken off of that that beat but want to get discredited now He better trace off so but on Wednesday was it was also announced... Nobody know that. Just take the summer off to regroup, my boy.

On Wednesday, it was also announced that Clark agreed to an endorsement deal with Nike. So the deal is reportedly in the eight figures, and Clark will also get her own signature shoe. Hmm. So she got $10 million? So I want her to take $5 million. So she got $10 million?

She wants to go play in the big... Shut the fuck up. What I want her to take $5 million. So she got 10 million? To go play in the big, shut the fuck up. What I want to know is this. I would have, this is just wishful thinking. This would have been advanced thinking. If they already knew she was coming out, wouldn't they have been negotiating with her way before? Do you think that wasn't happening?

I'm sure they had. Because the day she got drafted, I already had a signature shoe ready to be produced. Let's sell it. Let's move. Let's go right now. As soon as she got drafted, number one,

the next press conference, oh, this is my signature shoe in stores now. Right there in real time. So after the deal was announced. That's the shit that irritates me. your shoe in stores now. Right there in real time. So, after the deal was announced, that's the shit that irritates me. It's like, how are you a business not capitalizing in real time?

Because if it was LeBron, the shoe would have been. Is that what happened with LeBron? No. I would have learned. Is that what happened with any of them? No. So, what are we talking about? What I'm talking about is they failed. Get it. No. How is it a failure? What I'm talking about is they failed. Get it. No, how is it failed? How is it a failure?

Because I'm- That has never happened before. I see what he's saying. There's a reason. If it never happened before, you can be the first one to do it in real time. Okay, why does it make us a failure though? I don't get drafted. You said it, it's a fail.

It's a fail on capitalizing in real time. How? Because it's right there. You want to build it up? They can build it up. If there was a shoe to be bought yesterday, would people have bought it? Yep. Okay.

That's all I'm saying. But if the shoe comes out tomorrow, are they still going to buy it? Are they going to have a shoe tomorrow? No, because they wasn't preparing for this. How do you know? Do you have an inside scoop at Nike? Because I... No. When do you think the shoe's going to come out?

I don't know. Okay. So after the... If I was there, the shoe would have been out yesterday at the press conference. That's great marketing, too. Of course, I know. So after the deal was announced, many pointed out that despite being a two-time MVP, two-time champ, finals MVP, and five-time All-Star, Asia Wilson,

who's also with Nike, still doesn't have a signature shoe. Damn. But along with Wimby, Asia's getting a Nike Air prototype AI design. In less than 45 minutes after news broke a Clarks deal, Aja posted the following tweet. Psalm 37.7. For those who aren't

biblically knowledgeable, I'll read it for you. Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for Him. Do not fret when people succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes. So how ridiculous is it that the best WNBA player does not have a signature shoe? Yeah. Asia should absolutely have a shoe.

But that doesn't mean Caitlyn shouldn't have a shoe. They should both have a shoe. That's not what we're saying. They should both have a shoe. How ridiculous is it that Caitlyn has a shoe? Oh, that's not the... Yeah, but before people spin my fucking words like they've been doing, Caitlyn should absolutely have a shoe. It's amazing. Asia Wilson should also have a shoe. It's amazing.

Asia Wilson should also have a shoe. She's the best player in the league, most accomplished, decorated, Olympian, two-time WNBA champ, national champion. Like, what are we doing? I think with Nike, is she getting a Nike shoe, Asia? She's got an air prototype. I think what Nike wanted to do, I think what they wanted to see is, because her game is already there, could she sell?

Because that's what it's about. It's not really about your game like that. It's about can you sell? Can't move the needle. Nike wanted to see could she do it, and now they're starting to see like Asia, she can push product. They've been monitoring her numbers, her analysis, and they're seeing like, oh, she can sell. So we trust it. Because at first they didn't trust it. I'm just being honest. Best selling New York Times author. She's been

like that. She's been like that since high school, college. She's been like that, but they wanted to see could she sell. And with Caitlyn, it's showing like, hey, females can sell. And she's a big, she's considered like a post player. It's always questioned, can a post player sell versus a guard? Yeah, for sure. And that's not saying one should have one and one shouldn't. They should both have one. They need to just focus on getting Juju one. Get that ready. That's what they need to focus on.

She might need to get one. That's what they need to focus on now. You think Juju should get a shoe while she's still in college? It's guards. I don't know nothing about marketing dogs. Oh, okay. So let's keep it moving. Juju's in college would be elite.

So while WNBA contracts are improving, they're nowhere near where they should be. Recently, a Twitter user gave his vision for what the future holds, saying the following, man, when WNBA players start getting hundreds of millions of tricking off and flying niggas out on the road. Surprise.

Tweet went viral with others sharing their visions of what that would look like, including this one. When Lexi Brown sent the flight confirmation number. What is this video though? You're going to be happy, Lexi. He going crazy with that brush. People have sent me this in the last day. Don't put them on spirit.

Don't put them on spirit, please, unless it's the big C. Oh, my God. Nah, this might have been one of the funniest Twitter that I've ever seen. Oh, shit. You said everybody's been sending it to you. My mom sent it. One of my best friends sent it. I've been getting so many twitter DMs from my friends that

That one's that very one specifically My name has come up a bunch of times like that was specifically everyone has been sending me because that video funny is Would you think the first time you saw what when you saw the tweet for the first time I was like, oh shit They finna have a ball with this one the memes the the first time. I was like, oh, shit. They finna have a ball with this one. The memes, the pictures, like, OK, y'all for me. Y'all for my shit. Gil, you going to be the work? I'm about to say, hey, Gil, man. 100 million.

You letting her fly you out? You going to be the work, Gil? Bro, you already know what was really going to happen. You letting her fly you out? Y'all losing our work. Britney, Ryan, and Fly, everybody work out. We start talking shit. D and M, your girl, come on out here.

All right, well. Oh, wow. Am I wrong? Let's get to the NBA side. No. So the Heaton Sixers met in Philly on Wednesday for the Eastern Conference playing championship with the seventh seed on the line. You ain't been in the club with one of them, huh? They hollering at the same, where you trying to holler at?

They pulling them faster. No, they're not. Let's talk a little Heat Sixers. Before the game, current Sixer, former Heat guard, Kyle Lowry, had a message for his former teammate, Bam Adebayo. I don't know. We're going to show it twice.

What do you think he's doing underneath that jersey? I know what he's doing. Oh, wow. So he appeared to have given the middle finger. And then the center. Don't put that on him. What? He appeared.

He appeared. Allegedly. Alleged. Alleged. He was giving him the peace sign. It was a peace sign underneath. Fuck on out of here. Peace.

Why did he hide it then? He left it on his side. Now let's get to some of the game action. First scary moment for Jimmy Butler at the end of the first quarter. After Butler pump fake. Kelly Oubre. He was hurt. That's not it.

Let's look at game highlights first. Batum. Batum was killing him. Good team on his back. Yep. 20 points, 6-3. Tyrese Maxey was doing his thing. That finish was crazy.

And it was letting them rock yesterday. There was some hits. I was like, ooh, man. B came up big in the Fourth quarter so he was 3 through 12 in the first three quarters had 12 points had 11 points in the fourth quarter Feel like I like players like him MD Luol Deng or Matum? Yeah. Yeah. Luol Deng was good with Chicago. Hit that big one. Always moving.

That's a good pass. Oubre came up good. Oubre played well, man. To give the Sixers a two-point lead. See, like, that's moving. Cutting, slashing in front of somebody. Can't... Good basketball right there.

They got lucky last night, man. So... They got... So Jimmy Butler had injuries in the first quarter. He took way too many shots. Sprained his left heel? Yes. Yeah.

So what are your initial thoughts on that Heat Sixers playing game? Jimmy Butler don't get hurt. Philadelphia... Done? Yeah. Period. He couldn't press the issue the way he needs to press this you in the sleep to uh No, I didn't I actually did put it on to go to sleep, but I ended up watching the whole thing I

Was trying to take a nap before my workout, but he tried it got interesting Yeah, but Jimmy hurt his knee. Kelly Oubre fell on it. He stayed in the rest of the game. Embiid also was limping after landing awkwardly after a bucket in the second quarter. Came back and played the game. Did he go back to the locker room?

He ran off. Yeah, with like a minute left, but he came back and played the second half. You got to go sit down, bro. Which move? Embiid? Embiid? Embiid.

That's a three game, the last three games he's tweaked at the last three games. There's gonna be a time where you ain't gonna come back out of that locker room. Who are they playing next? The Knicks. They got the Knicks first round. So, Knicks were 3-1 this season against the Sixers. Smacked the Sixers by 36 in the only game MB played back in January. How worried should the Knicks

be about facing the Sixers in the first round? They should be. I think they should be worried because I don't know how much legs they're going to have left. Tips and played them dudes 40 minutes for the last three months straight. I think it's going to be competitive.

I do. I really do. I just don't think New York Knicks, I don't know how much energy they're going to have to press the issue like that. They got Brunson, bro. Yeah, he one guy, though. What's the most he's going to score, 40 points? The most he's maybe 50? That's a lot.

That's a lot. 50 is a lot. They're going to have to score. I don't see him... 40, yeah, he's going to have about 38, 40, 42. Yeah, he's going to have a couple games like that. No, a couple games like that. I think it's going to be like a six, seven game series, honestly.

Knicks and six? If I'm them, I'm like, yo, we just got to keep this game going. We're going to try to take this motherfucker to seven, wear that knee down, and hopefully by the time we get to game seven, this motherfucker doesn't fill out with an injury. I'm sorry. That would be my thought process.

The Knicks don't play fast. That's what I'm saying. That's why they don't benefit and beat, I think, because they play slow. Yeah. Slow-ish. Maxie can turn up, too, now. Maxie can go toe-to-toe and drop 52 now.

The Knicks push the tempo, though, to try and wear Embiid's knee down. I forgot, Max. I mean, to be honest, it's Embiid himself, right? It's like a whole bunch of landmines out there. So it's like, yo, we just going to keep playing, hoping in the back that one land wrong or angle something because it's happening in every game. He's tweaking it,

leaving every single game so far. So, you know, we just going to play the percentage. Seven games. Hopefully we're down. Yep.

Go right at that leg. Who do you think is winning that series? And how many games is it going? Knicks at six. Knicks and six. Knicks and six, okay. I don't know. I've seen Tibbs have number one seed in Chicago.

Can't get it done. He went against y'all. Like, come on. Like, what the hell? He went against y'all. Like, the hell? Like, I seen Tibbs be number one, then run into y'all, of course. I'm just saying like the sisters are actually the favorite I'm Got six of the favorite sixes. I remember going to see the eight minutes like the other day like he plays them all He don't take his starters out. I love that. I love that shit boy from start to finish play me More shots. I don't ever want to come out Fine fine rest through the timeout.

Hell yeah. Okay. That hasn't been... A little foul. Rest. That don't work. That don't work for postseason defense. Spurs didn't do that. Golden State didn't do that. Miami, we didn't do that. No championship team did that. Y'all didn't have to do that. They didn't win a championship.

But I mean, to get out of this round... Ooh. I don't know. If Embiid can last, he's going to dominate. That's what I'm saying. He's going to dominate. If his knee don't fuck up, he's going to dominate. So I give it to Philly. If he can finish the whole series, I give it to Philly.

I'm going with Philly, too. Because if it's a half-court game... And what? Philly and I Say five that means the Knicks only won one game right say six you say Philly five Philly six or five. Okay. Yeah Cuz I already know what they're gonna do they're gonna put if I'm Tibbs I'm putting uberre on Brunson. That's cool. Yeah, because he's going to shoot over Maxie. Yeah, just put him over, just keep the length on him.

But I think Brunson's going to play very well. He's going to have his 40. I think we're going to see a duel with Maxie and Brunson. Brunson? I like it. Put Maxie on Brunson, dog. No, I'm saying... Too big. I'm saying they're going to go at it.

Like, Brunson's going to go get his. I think Maxie's going to get his, too. Is Brunson going to Good Maxie on Brunson, dog. No, I'm saying... Too big. I'm saying they're going to go at it. Like, Brunson going to go get his. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I think Maxie going to get his, too. Is Brunson going to guard Maxie? Yeah, Brunson will guard Maxie. He can get cooked, too. That speed. I mean, he got the speed over him, so...

They're going to have to load up. Huh? I'm loaded up. They're going to put Josh Hart on Maxie. They got to. Josh Hart, yeah. And Devin Chinzo, switch him back and forth on him. Who do you guard?

And you put... See, Oubre ducks in. Yeah. Yeah. So you're going to have to put him on Maxi. I mean, that's going to be a good series, though. Yeah, but I say that's like a 50-50. It should be good, hard, fought. No, for real.

Like back in the day. Yeah. That's your 80s series. Yep. That's your 80s series right there. You've been very vocal about it. Go watch it. You've been very vocal about it, B, just shutting it down

and not trying to play through this knee injury. Like you said, he sat out the final game of the regular season. The two previous games before that were shaken up. Was shaken up at this game. At one point in this game, fell down to his knees during a free throw. For some. That was nutty. Don't know what was going on i'm crazy right now i just the the reason is i've how many success stories have there been with athletes coming back on serious injuries a little too fast there's never been really great success stories. It's always,

damn, I should have waited a little bit longer, right? When Kobe had his Achilles, it should have been out, was it 10 to 12 months, came back in eight, six games later, he hurt something else on that same leg, right? Then he missed the whole season. So he jeopardized the whole season that he should have missed anyway for six games. Now you got that injury plus the next injury. It just compounds. As an organization, this is organization too, because the players are going to want to play. What is the goal here?

Is the goal to win a championship? Do you think you can win it with this team? Him being 100% healthy. If the answer is no, why am I going to jeopardize the rest of our franchise for some meaningless games? Because it is meaningless to us. Because if he's not here next year, the year after that, he's struggling back and forth. All them years we're missing the playoffs because he's going to be missing 15 30 games so these extra six games would not be worth it if if he's playing 50 games moving forward right so that's that's how i look at it now if i think if i'm

if i'm if this was denver right and i'm sitting in mur Murray, you know, I'm a, this is our chance. We can win. So, you know, I would love you to be playing. But, you know, Philly doesn't have a chance to win the championship. I agree. If you're not playing, if you don't believe your team can win, it's up to management. It's up to management. If you don't think that the team you have assembled can win it all or can even get there you gotta shut

him down but that's your mvp that's your three-time scoring champ he would have been an mvp probably back-to-back mvp it would have been no he ain't a scoring champ this year he would have been he would have been it would have been his third straight year of being it would have been he would have been a scoring champ so if you don't think you can win it i'd sit him down so it's a tough decision because he's like, I'm practicing every day. I'm back to my normal routine. Why am I not playing? But then that's where you got to be like, hey, you're not playing.

It's the sacrifice. I'm sacrificing this moment in time for long haul. And as athletes, we were taught, if you can play 75% play, you just being out there. But me just being out there is not a reality. Because while I'm out there, I'm playing 110%. Right. Because someone's coming at me a hundred and that's usually what happens in an injury. We're coming back from our injury and we're playing in practice, but we're controlling it in practice. I know you, I know how fast you move is cool.

Right. And then you get in the game and then I'm sitting here sticking you. Oh, nah, nah, nah. it ain't ready yet right because now I'm moving off of reaction now Yeah, so I have less control in a game in real time, and that's when you retweak it And you sign them contracts five years each one year if you got a sacrifice one or two years You need to get them five years and potentially another four years after that so So it's gonna go around the couch hypothetically if you werenid's shoes, would you want to be playing right now? Yeah.

I would have to have management literally like, you're not playing. So, you would play if you were Embiid, right? You would feel some sense of wanting to help your team. And that's where the problem becomes, and we talk all the time, it's really on management because I think at this point, management's saying, well, shit, we need you to play too.

That's our only hope. We're trying to move these tickets. We want excitement around this. We know we're cooked if you're not playing. So they've got to step in. And, you know, you've seen now multiple instances he's come back, knee-buckling, just scary moments that, to your point, I think about KD, and it's not obviously a super comparable situation, but coming back in the finals

It's like Is it worth this? I named the finals is the first round. You know me. I can't believe he did that That that juice you tell you remember whatever you tell yourself is reality up, you know, we in the championship I'm ready. I can play look look look look look and then All that movement is controlled movement, right? I'm in control of this movement when I'm playing. I can play. Look, look, look, look, look. And then all that movement is controlled movement. Right? I'm in control of this movement. When I'm playing against the ops and he backdooring me, he's running around, he's doing all this.

And you don't have no control anymore. Yeah. Right? You've been playing against, you know, whoever. Now you're playing against Kawhi Leonard. That's two different beasts. In practice, you're not playing against a superstar. Right? You are the superstar.

They can't hurt you in practice. The player guard, you know he better not trip you or do anything. But it's still not the superstar. My opponent is the superstar. I'm not guarding Derrick Rose in practice. I'm guarding Steve Blake. I picked you up full court.

You ain't got nothing. I'm ready, coach. I picked you a full court. Ah, you got nothing. I'm ready coach go out there Hey, come get me this just swollen, yeah So, you know, I don't know man you you don't wish no bad on nobody and I just hope it works out Oh, yeah, hopefully it works out. Do you feel like this is an injury he can play himself back into health with, or is he now just holding on for dear life? Getting games, getting reps is not necessarily going to be beneficial, especially at a high-level playoff basketball atmosphere. Versus their last seven games of the year, there were some trash teams mixed in there where get some good cardio, get some buckets, but that shit like

Stevie Wonder braids, man. He's been holding on for dear life. Stevie Wonder braids. Come on, I'm just saying, they holding on. Stevie out of this. They holding on.

I think it's hard. He lacks body control at times. But I think the bigger point going around this couch is if you guys were in Embiid's position, you'd actually... I'm playing. You want to play. But that's what... Yeah, that's what a franchise needs to step in and be like, look, big dog, get healthy.

And if you're the Sixers, how concerned are you now with the Olympics coming up and now rolling into next year that there's going to be some long-term ramifications from this? See, but that's the thing. How much time does he have to rest after season? Because the Olympics is... All right, so if he keeps playing, then he has to... He'll be out in two weeks. The U.S. team and USA are not going to practice him crazy, though.

They'll let him sit because they know what he can do. But still, you still got to play. Like, you still got to just... To be honest. It depends on how he looks the rest of this Might have to get another one. Yeah If he tweak it and so where he they might have to sign another big well There's gonna be another I mean you can put BAM at the five So you got you really technically how they're doing it. Have you know have you seen it? They have 80 at the four Right. So the optics doesn't look...

I ain't playing five. So they got Embiid and Bam at the five, and then AD and LeBron at the four, but it really looks like it's AD at the five, Bam at the four, so if something happens, they can bring in another four. I wonder who would they bring in, though. Paulo Ben-Gerald, maybe?

Over Triple J? Yeah. Over Jaren De... Because we need a four. Because we don't play Bam at the... You need another seven-footer out there in Europe. You got to have somebody, because they will jump hook you to death.

You can't grow fast enough out there. Shit, I mean, our whole fucking... All our small fours are seven-footers. Yeah, but they're not post defenders. You're right, you're right, you're right. Germany taking it down

to Lithuania, Australia, they going down there to jump hook school. So we asked the chat who's winning the series between the Knicks and Sixers. We had nearly 3,000 votes, 62% said the Knicks.

Knicks for clicks. Okay, Knicks. Let's get it. There's a. Ooh. Knicks for clicks. Okay, Knicks. Let's get it. There's a lot of Knicks fans in there. Okay, Knicks. They're harder to see. I mean, this is wild. Like, even on the East side,

that this is even a discussion with the two-versus-seven, but... Right. God bless Adam Silver's NBA. But we got to talk about the Heat, Heat culture, Jimmy Butler. Not looking good for him. I think we showed it earlier, but there was a video of him leaving after the game, limping. So he had an MRI today, but shout out to Jake Fisher from Yahoo Sports

for grabbing this video of Jimmy Butler. According to Shams, Butler suffered what has appeared to be an MCL injury, and the expectation is he will be out for several weeks. Damn. But when you look at a guy like Jimmy Butler, his toughness, and suffering that injury in the first quarter, playing three more quarters on an MCL injury, Norris, what do you think about Jimmy Butler trying to stay in the game,

trying to help his team? I mean, that's what he do. He a dog, man. And he probably knew once he sat down and once the adrenaline were off, he probably knew it was going to be probably over anyway. So he probably was like, let me give it everything I got because once the adrenaline were off and they go check whatever is going to happen, even if it's not the worst, which we hope it's not,

he still was going to have to sit out the next couple of games no matter what. So I think he just tried to play it out as long as he could. It's not looking good, but I think we can still win the next game. We have players that are capable, so I think we can still win the next game. Our culture, you know, that's what it shows. Next man up mentality. 1-4 flat DeRozan.

That won't work. Who's the next? 1-4 flat DeRozan. Next man up mentality. One for a flat DeRozan. That won't work. Who's the next? One for a flat DeRozan. Next man. Hero. I mean, hero is the number one option anyway, right? He got to play better next game. He takes the most shots right now.

He takes the most shots. Jimmy is our number one option. Yeah. He'll play better. Hero is a volume guy. He'll play better. So it's going to be Atlanta versus them? No. No, no, I got Chicago

Yeah, I go in Miami One for flat Rose about the bayonet motherfucker Jimmy come get this mid-range game And that arenas good to play in, too. It is. You think that he got enough to get that AFC? I do. Do it for Jimmy. Do it for Jimmy. How about against the Celtics in the first round?

I don't know if we can score enough points now. I don't know if we can score enough points to play with Boston now. But you think if Jimmy was healthy, it would have been. If you're the NBA, put Miami Heat in there and just let Boston fool the motherfuckers. Just all that shit y'all was talking last year, god damn it. We back.

Man, I don't know. Because you can't score enough. Without Jimmy, I don't know if we can score enough. Because Boston is going to shoot 45 threes. Yeah. And all they got to do is make 40. If they make 40% of them, it's over. Against any team they play. Yeah. So. You gotta do is make 40, if they make 40% of them it's over. Against any team they play.

Yeah. So. You'll be, you'll be, what's so funny is when it comes to basketball, you'll be surprised. We all been surprised when the Stars is out and then other people got to set up and then you get to see they real game. Yes. And you're like, damn, what you do this every time?

But we need, we need Rozier back though. He been out, too. We need Scary Terry. If Scary Terry play and Jimmy's out, we still got a chance. Because him and Hero can go for a number together. I forgot he was over there. What's wrong with him? We got some injuries we dealing with right now.

Going through some things. He caught you right next man out. You're still hurt. Yeah, I am. I'm a little hurt right now. Next man. What? I mean, you never. Y'm a little hurt right now. Next man. What? I mean, you never.

Y'all running out of bodies over there. Same thing with Zion and the Western Conference. You never want to see at this point in the season. Right. Guys as important to a squad like that, like Jimmy is, in the whole playoff, Jimmy Moniker and what it means to heat culture, now go down in the first quarter, still tough it out, try to play. Well, I'll tell you what. Down there, they don't feel sorry for themselves.

I'm going to tell you that. They don't think they can't win. Spoh ain't like, oh, let's just try this. He's talking to them like, hey, this is what we're about to do. We're about to beat them. And once we take care of them, we're going to prepare for Boston. That's how Spoh's talking, 100%. He ain't saying we could.

That's how he's talking? That's how he's talking. He should be. That's how he's talking. I mean, he should be. You got LeBron James and Dwayne Wade on him how you're talking? That's how you're talking. It should be. That's how you're talking. I mean, it should be. You got LeBron James and Dwayne Wade on it when you're in the locker room. We're talking like that now. Oh, okay.

You want to see his press conference? He said, he said, we got to do it the hard way. He said, but ain't nobody feeling sorry for ourselves. He said, we just got to do it the hard way. And that's what we about. That's what he said. It's like they like it. One for a flat.

They like doing that. One for a flat DeRosa. Hell yeah. So let's talk DeRosa. Oh, yeah. So let's talk about... Hey, what happened to Caruso? He hurt too? We're going to talk about that in a second, too. He hurt?

He got hurt last game? Yeah. We're going to show it. Damn. He'd be fine. I'm not looking at him. He's dropping like flies out here. Let's talk about Hawks-Bulls.

In the late game Wednesday, the 10-seed Hawks and 9th seeded Bulls spurred off to Chicago with both teams trying to keep their seasons alive. So the Bulls led by 18 after the fourth quarter, but the Hawks closed the gap and cut it to four at halftime. But it was the Kobe White show. White had the best game of his career, finishing with 42 points. Most improved. Nine rebounds, six dimes.

Oh. He was 15 for 21 from the field. Wow. 42 points, 9 rebounds, 6 dimes. Oh! He was 15 for 21 from the field, 9 for 10 from the foul line. I love them little feet you rose. One for two. We also got this DeJounte Murray. Too bad none of these stats count. Yeah. That does count, though.

It'll follow Vujovic for the rest of his life. But DeJounte had 30 in the game But like I said Kobe White Doing his thing with the 42 piece Nikola Vucevic also added 24-12 boards DeMar DeRozan had 22.6 rebounds and nine dimes Yeah, you know what time it is. Oh, give it to him. Bucket. And the look. He's a free agent too, right?

No, he just signed a deal. He signed last year. He severely underpaid after this performance. Hell yeah. He signed a three-year deal. I know, he's mad right now. I think 12 a year. 12 a year.

Yeah, so he's making 11 this year, and the next two years he'll make close to 25 over the next two years. Just said they low-balled him. He didn't get low-balled because of how he played last year. He had to take that security. Wait, I'm just kidding. 25 million a year? No, 25 million for the next two years.

So he's making 12 million next year, close to 13 million the year after. But hey, bread is bread. That's straight. Then on the Hawks side, like I said, DeJounte Murray led them with 30 points, six dimes. Trae Young finished with 22 points, 10 dimes in his fourth game since returning from a hand injury. So with the win, the Bulls will face the Heat on Friday in a rematch of last season's A.C. playing game. But let's talk about Kobe White a little bit. You know, reemerged as the starter for the Bulls with Levine being hurt.

You know, he's been killing it this season. How impressive was Kobe White been this season, and does he deserve the Most Improved Player Award? Who else is out there for Most Improved Player? So other options would be Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Williams, Jonathan Kaminga. I mean, but was Kobe White balling the whole year? Or did he just start?

No, he's been playing good. He's been playing good here. Tyree's maxi, though. Yeah, I'm about to say Tyree. I didn't know he was going to start the year like he was going to be first team all NBA. How many 50-point games he got this year? Three? Maybe two.

So, Kobe White last year played 74 games, started two, averaged 10 points a game. He's winning it. Three assists, three rebounds. This year, played 79 games, started 78. He averaged 19, five assists, five rebounds. Damn. Oh, yeah. He has the biggest plus.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. We're kind of a little on the radar. You know, we're not the biggest Bulls fans here on this couch, but he's been doing his thing.

The Bulls stink. Huh? The Bulls weak. What about Maxie, though? Maxie's, I mean, he's up six. Yeah, he went from like 20 to 25 or 22. 20 to 26. Yeah, no, you got to give it, yeah.

Because Maxie got paid. What? I mean, that might be a big jump. Maxie did get paid. That's a huge jump. Uh-uh. Tyrus Maxie did get paid. He didn't do his deal yet. No, Maxie didn't do mean, I might be a backseat. Okay, that's a huge Time is max. He did get didn't do his deal yet. Oh, I'm actually do his deal. He waited Oh this so that to get the soup. Yeah That's why he was whooping like that playing like the ribs do and

feel they gonna wish they paid him What they want as long as you don't make a team Yeah, who third he might make 13. He can make 13. He might make 13. Low key. He was an all-star this year too, right? Maxie? Yeah.

Yeah, he did, man. Mm-hmm. Super Max. All right. You got to get that Super Max. All right. I can't remember. Ooh, they're going to be...

I feel like they're going to be sick. Ooh. Oh, hell no. What? I'm going to spend about five. I'm about to spend five million on votes. To save yourself? A hundred thousand.

To save yourself 50? Don't vote for him. Oh, for the All-NBA? Don't vote for him. He's going to get it back later. Yeah, I'm saying that. I ain't got to. Shit, that extra 40,000.

That extra 40 million is bull One different actually good for Kobe white to go we could get it done I want to know if someone never did that because I know I'm crooked thinking so Hey for players not to be voted since this little shit has happened probably I Think there's franchises that shut players down or told the coach to limit their minutes to make sure they don't get it. I know Nate Robinson complained about that. Nate with Doc with the Celtics.

100%. That's sick. That's the easiest way to do it without it being obvious. Just go to the coach and be like, hey, cut his minutes down. He's last month for the season. Get him in a DMP. That happened to me. That's sick.

What happened, Gil? When I was, my second year, I was playing over the mid-level. So they were scared that they wouldn't be able to afford me.

So they started playing my minutes down. I remember my first time on TV, we were playing against Jason Kidnam. The score was like 7- five. I got all seven. Sub, sit on the bench.

And then didn't put me in the rest of the quarter. The rest of the half. No explanation? Good job young fella. Good job young fella. Good job. Stay ready. Finish where you left off.

Bitch. Finish where I left off. Bitch. Me and Fred, like you know, like you come out the game like, yo, I'm subbed out. You killing those kids. So you ain't getting back in. Man, stop. Come on, coach, and then...

I know that. It was an article, because I didn't come to practice the next day. I boycotted it. Now I'm good. I'm good. Yeah, so I boycotted it. But the messed up part is now you look like the bad guy in that situation for them trying to do you dirty. It's a cold game, man.

I boycotted. And then Earl Boykins had to fight for me and say, you got to play him. It's about winning. And then from there, they just let me go. So we also got to talk about a questionable moment in the game. So early in the second quarter, as Andre Drummond was getting back on defense. Oh, God.

He collided with Alex Caruso in midcourt. That is how he got hurt. There's the replay. Bro, how? Bro, my nigga. No. How? Caruso left the game with an ankle a great but we'll try to play Friday last week. He almost hurt his own teammate. We're off the backboard You don't got the My man, that's the homie. That's the homie. The homie just, he just whiled it out right now. I did just while it.

He just whiled it. He's doing it right now. He almost hurt his teammate throwing off the back. That last week, this week, they lost a defender. Looking for me a freight train, boy. Don't know how to control the brakes. And the open floor is crazy. Train, big homie.

Come on, man. All that space. All that space. And the open floor. You don't see that? You're like, you don't see him? You don't see me, y'all that space. All that space. You don't see that? You're like, you don't see him? You don't see me, y'all.

Shut up. Slow down. You gentlemen gotta love Trey. You gotta love Trey. Man. You gotta love Trey. I see you in Miami this summer, but hey, bro, you gotta work on your brakes, big dog. Bring lateral movement, guys.

Man. Can we see the play one more time, please? What? The jumper. Just... He damn near need him in the face. He damn near need him in a p-dam near need him in a fake artist why didn't Caruso spring all the way back though hey damn near needle like was he trying to wait we're trying to I don't know if you're trying to stop ball balls way down there sprint back but the John Tate Murray But Dejounte Murray was bringing it up. I don't need it. I don't need it. Oh, my God. Jeez. That nigga pissed, bro.

How mad would you be if one of your teammates did this? What? Playoff time, bro, hot. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Clumsy motherfucker. What are you doing? Trying to get paid?

Fighting all year? So what's the worst friendly fire incident you saw or were a part of on the court? You ever have a situation like that happened to you Catching a random bow or getting ran into Yeah, when when when big man rebound right rebound and twist hit It's not me So you get hit in the elbow by your own teammate or one of them one of those that's why I don't go down there me either the big is down

there he already up get out the way cuz the only thing he can do is mm-hmm employee on top of the head if you ever had a situation like that I didn't remember last year I was watched when I was watching our team play I forgot who it was but someone tripped NECA and she likes like landed like face down like slid She was fine. It was funny. They like sent it to us after the game But it was our own teammate that tripped her up like but she fell hard as shit like flat on her face Right now about court burn probably she's late like, flat on her face. Brenda, how about you? Court burn? Probably.

She's just laying there. Not me. That goofy shut away from me. Not many people watching. Right. 20,000, act accordingly. Act like you've been here before. Y'all never had the pick and roll where the big,

you run right into the big. You never had that? You try and do the pick and roll and they move and you run right into... Never you never had that you're trying to do the pick a roll and they move and you run right into never did that you mean your own teammate yeah run into your own teammate yeah i have yeah yeah come on dog yeah but it don't look goofy because you're trying to come off so you're trying to come yeah that has happened before actually uh gentlemen another glorious day in the arena well let's talk about the loser of that game, the Atlanta Hawks.

There's been some uncertainty about Trey Young's future in Atlanta. Load up. Huh? Get him out of there. Get him out of there. Load up. But during his time with the Hawks, Trey's a three-time all-star, all-NBA selection, led the team to three playoff appearances, including the Eastern Conference Finals in 2021.

In his six seasons, he's averaged 26 points, close to 10 assists, four rebounds. If Trae Young did play his last game with Atlanta, what's his legacy with the Hawks? Legacy? This is those six seasons. It's no legacy. I mean, he has a reputation of good numbers but legacy is like legacy talk is different though who just was his with okay you know what was his average back on the hot 26 and 10 26 and 10 led the nba in total assist the previous two seasons i mean best point guard terrible he played in the

eastern uh finals in 2021 yeah three playoff appearances that next run which is crazy i mean definitely the best point guard. Put on an Ox jersey. That's a dumbass team. I mean, like... I just don't think they... They didn't give him the right... They just haven't given him the right pieces.

He didn't come to the Lakers. 26-10, and people are like, you're not... You're not that person. Like, 26-10? He need to get out of there and go to a team that people are like, you're not that person. Like, 26 and 10? You need to get out of there and go to a team that will, like... I know a team that want him, that can use him.

The Spurs? Yes. The who? The Spurs. Like I said, people want to blame him, like he's doing something wrong. He's doing everything he can. You got three guards under 6'5", 6'5 and below as your 1, 2, and 3. something wrong. He's doing everything he can. You got three guards under 6'5",

6'5", and below as your one, two, and three. DeJohnson, you're good, though. Yeah, you got Bo Donovan. But what I'm saying is you got small. Your lineup is small. And then off the bench,

more guards. So you got seven guards out of a 12-man roster. Now, who are you going to win? Four of them are little guards. The fuck are you winning? Like, you got motherfuckers over here. Like, you're playing against guards

that are 6'11 now. Did he accept coaching well, though, there? His reputation about accepting coaching like with Nate McMillan was great. Nobody except Nate. Yeah, I mean, but it ain't him, though. His defense was like, as good as his offense was,

his defense was like worse in the league. I mean, I'm pretty sure our defense is going to be bad if me, us three are the one, two, and three. One, two, and three. Like, let's just be honest. One, two, and three. And then, you know, it's not like we got two seven-footers back there. So, I mean, what type of, our team defense is going to be horrible as shit too.

So, like, you know, there's just some groups that's not... That shouldn't be small. You've got a super small 1-2-3. Yeah, it don't make... That roster don't look... Are they the smallest... The roster is so random. They have to be the smallest in the NBA at that position? 1-2-3?

Yeah, if I'm DeMonte, I'm getting... That has to be the smallest lineup. They might build around him, though. He might be DeJounte's shit now. I'm about to say he might be his team now. But do you want that? Like, I mean...

Snyder is a coach. Snyder is a good coach. Why don't players want to go to Atlanta? Atlanta? Yeah. What's wrong with the... It's cheap to live.

I don't know. It just doesn't... It's not a basketball city. It's doesn't... It's not a basketball city. It's definitely not a basketball city. When you come there as an opponent, it's just like... Yeah, they don't get here until halftime. They don't get there until halftime. But would you consider Miami a...

It's the freaking location. Getting to that arena is a nightmare. Because of two stadiums? Oh, it's horrible. That's a bad thing. It's here for other teams sometimes, too. I mean, I lived in Atlanta for all them years. a nightmare. Because of two stadiums? That's horrible. That's like a train station for someone. for other teams in time, too. I mean, Joe,

I lived in Atlanta for all them years. I probably went to, like, two Hawks games. But the arena's good to play in. The arena is nice as hell. The arena is amazing. But getting there

is the worst. You know, niggas don't come to our halftime. You know, they on black people time, for real. Worse than Miami? Nah, nothing worse than Miami.

Nothing worse than Miami. Nothing worse than Miami. They be rolling in in the third quarter. Our team is legendary, and they still wasn't showing up until the start of the second quarter. Like, at halftime. Showing up late, trying to dip early. They don't see white shirts until halftime. Fourth quarter, man, the fourth quarter, the start of fourth is when the seats fill back in from halftime.

They party at the clubs and the arena. I mean, you know, arenas get turned up at halftime if you got the right plugs and access. Oh, for sure. Yeah. You know, staples be turned up. You don't even want to go back to the seat. But... I think they going to be all right.

They just need to build a team up and start over. Because Snyder is a good coach. You saw what he did in Utah. I don't know if... I mean, that's what I'm saying. You're blowing it up. I mean, how old is Trae Young? Twenty what?

Five? Same age as Luka? Yeah, what am I, boy? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Trae turned? Twenty-what, five? Same age as Luka. Yeah, what am I, boy? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Trae turned 25, be 26 in September. I think Trae just needs to change his scenery. I think so, too.

For him? Yeah, for himself. I think Atlanta wouldn't want him to stay, obviously. But he needs to get out of there. We're making it, like, they make it seem like he's the problem when it's, like, the organization. You guys's the problem when it's like the organization you guys There's multiple problems. Do you see your I don't think the chair is a problem at all

It's like you know if he's gonna be your franchise player You have obviously have to build around his weaknesses to like how Philly built around AI's weaknesses Mm-hmm We're a productive team if he's gonna be the guy you can't have you said Other tiny people around him I build a team that could you know, I ask was Other than like people don't like the city like there has to be a glaring issue there that they can't really they can't bring anybody in there might be

Before office never know so they were good when they had Joe Johnson in them, but okay now They was rolling in. It was rolling. Now, look at that team. Now, think about that. Joe Johnson's your shooting guard at damn 6'9". Right. And Cal Horvath's 6'9". What's so funny is, like, Joe Johnson.

Have you ever seen Joe Johnson? Yeah, in person. Yeah, he's 6'8". He's tall as shit. Yeah, he's like 6'8", 6'9". No, he's like, shit. He's like six eight six. No, no, he's a like like I've seen a picture It was it was him Joe Smith, I mean, uh, Josh Smith

And Al Horford He they all they all out. I'm like yo, why did Joe Johnson like us? I seen him at the big three, and I'm sitting here like, wait, you 6'8"? Hell no. This ain't no 6'8 right here. So I went back to the room, Googled, it says 6'8". Then I said, team pictures, motherfucker. Went straight to team pictures blowing.

I was like, yo. You the truth, 6'8", for sure. That was nice. I was like, he's all of 6'9. Yeah. Like, some of them guys, it's like, you'd be looking at their heights like, yeah. Nice. Yeah.

You know, you start guarding people like, y'all, come on, dawg. Come on, dawg. What's your real height here, sir? For sure. What's your real height here, sir? I'm seeing blow it up. Yeah, like, you got to, like, them teams, that Hawks team was huge. So, like him and Murray leave.

I like Murray. I think you can build around Murray. He's a bigger guard. He played both sides of the ball. Is he bigger? Than Trey? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Tall or just bigger? Yeah, he's like 6'6". He's skinny, though. Yeah, he's skinny 6'6". He's like 6'6". He's a little bigger. He's like a top. Him and Drew Holiday are like two of the top

on-ball defenders for guards in the league. Like, Zante is like a ball hawk out there. Yeah. Yeah. Trey got it. So if you do keep them both,

that means your three has to be 6'10". So you got to have one of those foreigners. Like Larry Markin or something. You got to bring somebody. Yeah, you got to have one of those foreigners. Like Larry Markin or something. You got to bring somebody. Yeah, you got to have, yeah, see,

with them two, I'll go Euros then. Now I will fill the team up with Euros because the way they play and the way Trey, pick and roll, pop, pick and roll, dive,

right, even though Bojonovan's there, he's 6'5". He can come off the bench, though. Yeah, he can come off the bench. He can fill it up, yeah. So we get the one that's in, which one went to, the one that was in Detroit and went to

New York? The other Bogdanov's, yeah, he's bigger. Yeah. Yeah, he's bigger. 16, right? Bring your ass on over here. I have the, are they brothers? No. Cousins? Everybody's cousins. Okay, so bring... They the same last name. Yeah, bring the cousins over Out there is a lot of bogdan. There's a lot of bogdanovich Like pretty uncle's uncle nephews I bring them both Like pretty uncle's uncle nephews

For you move on do yourself a favor download the same underdog fantasy abuse promo code gear They will match your first deposit up to $100 You're there of no relation some people around the world have the same last name. That is funny because why would you ask that? Not just one, the other. Like, are they brothers? I mean, you know. So we asked the chat, did Trey play his final game with Atlanta? We got nearly 2,000 votes. 76% said yes. So Lakers and Spurs have both been rumored to be interested in acquiring Trey this offseason. The Lakers are forming the big three. The Spurs add him as a nice accessory to Wimby. have both been rumored to be interested in acquiring Trey this offseason.

The Lakers have formed the big three. The Spurs to add him as a nice accessory to Wimby. Between the Lakers and Spurs, which team is the better fit for Trey Young? Spurs. Spurs. Why do you guys think Spurs? And he's a ball. He's not going to have the ball in L.A. Just because him and Wimby, I think he can play with him.

He'd like to pass. I mean, he can... I mean, he's great for Lakers because you can just shoot the ball, because you can just fucking flat-out shoot. But having the ball and doing what he wants to do, he's better... Brian ain't on that. Yeah, he's better off with Wimby. ...round, side step 3s, Brian is not on that.

If he runs down the court full speed... You're 22, Brian. ...and then somebody shoot a side step 3 and brick, and then he got to run back on deep, Brian is not on it. If he runs down the court full speed and then somebody shoot a sidestep three and break and then he got to run back on deep, Bron is not on that. At all. Even your 22, Bron? That's why you got to... When you're 22, Bron might be like,

no, you got it, man. If he do that, and the next time you're going to see Bron do like this. Next thing you know, somebody might come out the game. We're playing in the playoffs and I picked up on that right there and I was like, yo, we got outsmarted We got outsmarted because when he sit there and do this right here start doing this. Oh So there's more forgotten games every time he did it Motherfucker

I didn't pick it up till I was just started watching Like, yo, where did we lose this game at? And I remember. He would not hustle back. He would be like, he would be, he would stand. Y'all there would be running down there. He would be like, look over there. All right. All right, y'all.

I remember. And I caught it. I caught it on film. And he was doing that. Then heard the sub. And then it was like in the middle. It was like the fourth quarter. Did it again while they caught.

And I was like, wait. Every time he chewing, then just start looking for the size during the game and bam sure was He did that again to get the big man out when small Tackle here you come freight train. He's never played with a scoring point go I don't think Brian ever wants to really play with a scoring point guard Yeah, he never it don't fit cuz he likes to have a ball. No point though. Yes He didn't really play the point. He wants a shooter. Someone like Mo Williams. Like, I hated Mo Williams.

I hated Mo Williams in the last five minutes. Because he can shoot that. Because he can shoot that thing. Ky can shoot. Ky can shoot, yeah. You just need to shoot. You can't be a point guard. You got to be just more of a scorer.

Someone who can score, play one, two. Like, he can play with Steph. He can play with a guard like that. He can play with a maxi type of guard. He can play with Steph. He can play with a guard like that. He can play with a maxi type of guard. He can't play with a Chris Paul. As much as the Olympics and their best friend, he can't play with that type of guard.

Even Rondo. Rondo had to be more of a score to be effective. Like, yo, just score. Remember that fourth, was it last game? Game six? In the finals? In the finals. Out there 20. just scored all just be just be super aggressive or they had to sub them out letting arrest and Rondo run the offense that's why Reeves play so well with him just score I don't need you sitting there trying to do what I'm

doing that's the fact he's go out there be a bucket I think he could still be a 27 and 10 guy with Wimby if If he go play with Wimby. Right, more than that. Right, more than that. He going to throw that lob every time. And you better be there. If he has an inch, you look like one step

old. He was setting up John Collins. It was crazy. I got Compella. I got Wimby. Yeah, what? Compella and Wimby. That's night and day.

Shit, night and day. And then he can learn. Pop can teach him. You know, he worked with Tony Parker. He can teach him some things. Man, that'd be good. Nice. So Trey averaged 26 and 11 this season.

Dang. You think those numbers go up if he ends up with the Spurs playing with Wimby? I think he becomes more You think those numbers go up if he ends up with the Spurs playing with Wimby? I think he becomes more efficient with those numbers. Yeah, I think that's everyone's biggest criticism of him.

Yeah, yeah. He's not efficient. Yeah. But he's little. He'd be so damn untouchable, man. Off that pick and roll with him?

That'll happen. I mean, like, what you gonna... Pick and roll, duck in, just Wimby just being on the floor, that just...

Man. And then he gonna... Any deficiency on defense and win BZ racing He raced jump shots three-pointers in at the basket. Hell Where you at Drake hello. Oh, yeah, get him out of there. What am I? Please oh he can definitely do that like The man Steve Nash was having with Amari. The Steve Nash guy with Amari, he can have him two years. But scoring more. Because he scores more than Steve Nash.

He'll literally just get MVP if he... It'll revive his career. But the point is, those two would be battling over MVP. Yeah. Yeah, they would. Who, Trey and Wimby? Yep. They'd be battling because...

They're numbers. Because the numbers are coming from each other, right? But one's going to be getting rebounds, the other's going to get assists, one's going to be getting blocked. It's going to be really like, God damn. On the offensive side, you think Wimby's defensive would... Like Kobe or Shaq, low key. Yeah, it'd be just like that.

We know where the edge goes to on that. It can happen, Pop. Shit. Pop said he... The edge goes to on that. It can happen, Pop. Shit. Pop said he, uh... The edge goes to the big man. Yeah, I mean, because them blocks, there's going to be them blocks and everything that's going to help it overrule.

I mean, we've all talked about just Winby, his trajectory. We think we can see the point where he's MVP defensive player of the year. Hell yeah. Couple times. Yeah. So I think he run the table one year as far as, far like everything in the

defense all-star MVP regular MVP all that and I'm pulling LeBron on them no you're not they're gonna pull out LeBron I think you do this first team all defense lose to the guy who's on second. I think he'll get it. Because he would have ran the table that year, right? Because he won MVP. He won the chip finals MVP. He would have been defensive player of the year. So he would have ran the table, and it was like, ah. That's crazy.

Well, I don't know about the championship. I don't know about the championship, but I'm just saying everything in a regular season he'll get. Yeah, he can get blocks leaders. He can fuck around and get rebound leaders if he focused on it, right? Steals he'd be up there for steals to and he can there can be a year where he it he is a fucking cheat code You'd be looking at like created players don't even make no sense NBA need to do something. Yeah, it could be one of those years down. This is a fun no more fun

No more things are complaining. Yeah, like what wrong with the Miami niggas was complaining Katie and I only want to wash this team Because was complaining that was crazy But that's always as always it always That wasn't the same as what Brian Down killed nobody. That was crazy. No, no, no. It was?

Oh, it wasn't. When Brian News came out, man, that shit hit the, everybody was like, what? No. Like, they couldn't believe it. He had an established team already when he went there. They was, like, not good the year before. Who? It was already good.

No, Miami was always good, though. When Brian went there? I'm like, go to state. No, they weren't. No, it wasn't, they wasn was already good. No, Miami was always good, though. When Bron was there. I'm like, Golden State. No, it wasn't that good. But the problem when all three kicked in, you were sitting there like. You know what's so funny? Even though all three got together, I know. Who said something?

Was it Eddie Howe who said something? That when Bron said his team wasn't that good, that was the flaw with them. Their starting five was good. That bench, man, motherfuckers, it was a Tom Joyner. It was good enough to get them there, though. No, it was good enough, but you're playing against Dallas. You're talking about, you had Eric Dampier, you had a whole bunch of that that bench was oldest But that's what it's like if we can get them to come off the bench They was old they didn't have nobody come out the bed and if buddy played better

He might have you know be really they still could have won that Yeah, you could have but it was Ray Allen. Yeah, right. No, no not that group. No Ray we want to hear without Ray Right. So the pressure y'all lost to Dallas. No, he wasn't there. It was that. That's how I got drafted, because of that Dallas series. They would have never drafted me if they'd have won that.

It was this group, hold on. And then the second year beat OKC. First year of OKC, we beat them. Yeah, so lost to the Mavs in 2011, beat the Thunder 2012, beat the Spurs 2013. Yeah. It was this group. Stop, bro.

Stop, because they got there. No, yeah, it was the group that had, you know, Jerry Stackhouse was there, Jamal McGlore, El Gauskis, Jawan, Howard, Eric, Dan, Pierre. It was those bigs. It was just a bunch of... Because they had the veteran minimum, so they had to get a whole bunch of players.

They took all the money. They took all the money, yeah. Three guys making max, and then everybody else making scraps. That's what the older veterans... Max and scraps. 10, 15 years. You got Mike Bibby on 12 years,

Eric Dampier 14 years, Eddie Housden, it was the youngest at 10 years, Jawan Howard, 16 years. El Gauscus, 12 years. McGlore, 10 years. Mike Miller

was 10 years. Jerry Stackhouse, 15 years. That was their bench? That was their bench, yeah. So he lost in the first round

the year before fifth in the East. Obviously, we were worried before KD came. Yeah, it was comp. Best regular season

record in the game. That was comp, bro. I didn't even like basketball that year. I was like, what is this? I mean 2004 was an embarrassment to Lakers you like come on dog. I mean it was great for me because it freed up money for Wash Washington because B. Russ. B. Russ went. B. Russ went to the team up.

Shout out B. Russ. B. Russ, like, because that was the money that freed up. B. Russ opted out and then went there and that was, that whole team,

they got it. You sitting there like, oh, this is unfair. I mean, so that first year that Boston team got together was kind of crazy too, though. Like, it was kind of like, whoa. They fit perfect, though. Perfect.

They had a point guard, a shooting guard, a wing, and a foreman. They fit perfectly. What's so funny is that was the year. That's where Rondo, that's where the beef really was. The beef was they had this team, and then they're questioning this point guard.

He's a fucking year player like who is this what is this like boom we should get and then that's when he started bringing in all those veterans trying to remove rondo and because they didn't give rondo respect rondo they win the championship it kind of like nah don't nah don't rob me now don't don't come over here asking yeah i felt them on that one. Ticket taught Rondo, too. I said, once Ticket got there, Rondo was almost like a little Ticket. He was psyched out, bro.

You would think that team would have won more championships, though. How? But then looking back, they were old. That's what I'm saying. They were older when they got back together, that Boston team. They were kind of old. But mean, I mean but think about it Who they lose to though? Lakers yeah, I mean, this is not it's not like I mean, they're losing to their energy and they're losing the beam, right?

That's what's stopping them. It ain't it ain't like they you know, they wasn't a championship team don't get hurt They win one of those championships against me Right cuz they beat they beat Kobe for the championship right yeah the first year that Kobe came back That was kind of the year that I mean you know we can say that it looked like he Didn't want to play that last game like well does he wonder I can prove you all the point Which is crazy. Yeah, that looked like that game where he's like, all right. Y'all think y'all can win? Okay, do that.

Yeah. You don't do that, though. Yeah. So, I mean, that's who he's facing. He's facing Bean. And then I think the following year. They had up and coming Brian and Dwight Howard. They hit that Dwight Howard team where that shit, they was loaded as fuck.

They were loaded in, yo. That was Turk Luke, right? That was that Turk Luke series. The Orlando team was nice. Yeah. Wait, wait, who won that? No, no, no. He should have played Ray Foster.

That was Ray Foster. Yeah. Yeah, it was all on the team. Yeah, they took Ray Foster out the lineup. Yeah, huh? They took Ray Foster out the lineup. Yeah. And that's why they lost the series.

Yeah, they was all on it. Because he's the one who helped them get there. Yeah, and then Nelson came back, and then Stan Van was like, nah, we're going to go back with him. They loved Jameer Nelson on that team. That's why. Yeah, but Skip was hooping them. He was. Skip was hooping.

Shit, that would have got Skip probably $80 million over that $40. What? He did? I don't remember. Did I make that up? What? Jameer Nelson was talking about that situation, how he came back. I don't remember.

I can't remember. I feel like I heard somebody talking about that situation, how he came back. I don't know. I can't remember. I feel like I heard somebody talking about that recently. That team was tough, though. The Orlando team was... Oh, yeah. So we got the playoffs coming up. Kind of playoff experience on this very couch. So I got a few questions for you guys and gals.

How did your preparation and routines change when getting ready to face the same team in a seven game series? Well, I mean, I don't have a lot of playoff experience because I see how you phrase that. So it's just them two. What? Right. I play two series. OK, that's it. That is not a lot of playoff. That's enough. It's two more than me, Gil. But the preparation, the preparation is different because that book is different, right? I don't know if y'all still had that. You get the book. You get the book of everybody's flaws. Even if I'm at the one, I have to look at one, the two, the three, the four, the five, and you're going to be tested on if you don't know the plays.

The rotation is eight, seven, seven and a half right and you're trying to you know make sure you're following the game plan and that game plan is i need to take away his first option and his second option try to make him play in his third option of what he's good at right so defensively you're trying to stop him from, you know, playing the first two things you want to do. And then offensively, I know that they're trying to do the same thing, so I have to figure out what a third package looks like. So it's more of a mental battle and see who can get to their options the best.

Yeah. Yeah. It's more detailed, like Gil was saying. You only got to focus on one team, and you get to focus on them for two weeks straight. There's less room for error. And so, you know, the coaches are a little bit more strenuous and strict. Mistakes are less tolerable. Practice is quieter. During the regular season, you might hear some music

every now and then, might be some laughter. Playoff time is like, there's no more laughing and giggling. It's like everybody's locked in. And so it's very efficient. There's no wasted time. You want to get your work in and you want to rest. So I know in Miami, it's very, very, very detailed and quiet around them when it's playoff time

The routines change at all regular season versus yeah a little bit Because you know what time the games are gonna be TV games and stuff like that So you can like be precise and when you're gonna run when you're gonna live You know if you have back-to-backs in the playoffs, they don't do that anymore But you will have back-to-back some time to playoffs. So, yeah, your routine will be able to adjust and be, like, clockwork. You know, during the season, you might do something this week, but then you got a West Coast road trip another week,

so your routine might change. Now you know we got this many home games, you got this many away games, and you can plan accordingly. Then, Brandon, how about for yourself? Shit, we got sweat next to us. Nah, nah, nah, but my rookie year when we played against Atlanta, you know, shit. That was a lot for me, just seeing the preparation and seeing the intensity change from it. Like, I think Josh was telling me, like, they had a whole, I don't know what type of scouting

program you had on me, but just three different, four different defenses are how to try to stop tell you I tell you yeah Yeah, you wouldn't know you wouldn't know yeah He was one of my scouts. Oh when you go right you like to do the step back. Yeah, so our plan was Try to funnel you right don't foul you because you got a natural kick. And when you go to the basket, it was my job not to try to block your shot or foul you, let you finish over CB, Joel, Anthony, and all that. Like, going left, like, obviously we didn't want you to go left.

But if you did go left, don't foul you. Make you shoot a jumper going left because you shot better going right than going left. So it was my job, if you was going left, to to don't back off, like funnel you all the way to the paint. So we was going over screen and rolls too on you. I know. Going over. It's me and Monte.

Yeah, we going over. Monte was different. He wants to go right all the way. So I'm make him go left at all costs, even if I almost had to open up and let him go left. He was fast. Super hella fast. Yeah. You know, they got us up out of here. So Britt, how many playoff games do you guys play? Um, now it's best five. You was fast. You was more herky.

Each round? Every round? When I first got in the league, we were in single elimination, though. Straight right now. So like the one playoff game I actually like actually played in for real, it was a single elimination in Seattle elimination, though. Straight right now. It's like the one playoff game I actually played in for real. It was a single elimination in Seattle, and we lost. That was when I was in Minnesota. And then when I was on Chicago, I didn't play. So I was chilling.

You won a chip, though. God damn it. Do you guys share? Chip. Like we do, do you guys share the playoff bonuses? How does that work with you guys? Well, I can't completely tell you guys, like we do, do you guys share, like, the playoff bonuses? How does that work with you guys? Well, I can't completely tell you that because I've only played, like, half the season with the Sky. I only got, like, half the playoff bonus.

So I don't really know how much I get. What do you mean half? Like, I didn't play, like, the whole season. Like, I missed, like, 60% of the season I was cut. But what does that got to do with the playoffs? Playoffs is the playoffs. Yeah, but they determine your bonus based on, like, how many games you played during the year. So I didn't get, like, the whole bonus.

Oh, wow. No. Yeah. Who did that? The team? The W. Like, if you came in at the playoffs, like, it's the playoffs because the playoff bonus is different than regular season. Yeah.

I mean, from what I saw, my bonus was way smaller than other people. Yeah, you need to go. You need to go put the ass. But, I mean, I was there for, like, shit. The whole playoffs, right? Yeah, but by the time I got to the team, like, the season was, like, almost over for you. Yeah. Dang. That's crazy. I was just hanging out. Playoffs right? Yeah, but by the time I got to the team like the season was like almost over for you So what else we write there's

Because I did ask I did ask I was like why is mine smaller than and then he was like because blah blah blah You should hit him like this. I'll tear it up. Oh, yeah, we get it. We get I guess they are doors it's like we have players share, right? And then coaches share. And then the only thing we're negotiating is on who outside of the two are we going to accept, right? So the coaches are like, are you guys going to take care of the PR, the equipment manager, right? And we're going to take care of the medical staff and all that. So that's how we did it.

So like, well, the medical staff reports to y'all, so fuck them. That's your responsibility. Maybe fucking up here. Yeah, yeah. So we got the equipment manager and we'll do the PR, right? And then so instead of like, all right, we have 15 players, technically now we have the equipment manager, 16, his assistant, 17. So y'all take y'all's bonuses and split it. Yeah, so whatever we're getting, we'll split it.

Instead of 15 players, we'll add equipment manager, assistant. So that would have been Rob and what's her name? Hopefully we can do that one day. 16, 17, and then... The money got to be big enough. We're not doing that right now. And then Sasha Jones, who was the main PR girl for us there. So we had 18.

So we had 18 players. And then we shared like that. We shared with everybody in our whole, the coaches and the players, our whole. And honestly, maybe they didn't do that. Oh, y'all do executive office too? We did everybody. We took everybody. But I wasn't important enough to know any of these decisions that were being made.

I mean, but you would have been equal. So they must have tried to give you a half a share, everybody else. So what they probably did is you just got there. So they gave you a half a share and then somebody else a half a share. Yeah. So yeah, they split your half a share with someone else. Let's just. Tell you what.

Just there. Nothing like a nice playoff bonus, though. Huh? I was there vibing. Nothing like a nice playoff bonus. Then you got I was there vibing. Nothing like a nice playoff bonus. Then you got the championship bonus that's even set. Man. How soon after you win the chip do you get the bread?

Pretty soon. Yeah, pretty soon. That's one thing I didn't notice. I didn't know because I gave my playoff share up. You didn't take any of it? I gave it to the equipment manager. Cuz I got, I wanted brand new socks. share up you didn't you didn't take any of the equipment manager because uh i got uh i i wanted brand new socks um every i just knew socks i had to sock things so socks and tights and then um my

first year i wanted the big man shorts because you know he had the 44 longs so i took the i took the big man short so he had to get powered our center had to get power for shorts and shit like that. And just all the stuff I needed on the road, like a microwave and shit like that. The equipment manager did it. You had a microwave on the road, Gil? There's no... Room service.

Room service, you bring food in, how you gonna warm the shit up? Why you ain't eating cold? Order again. Just reorder it. But'm just saying like just ding. But you had to microwave every... How long is that food being sent out? I'm one of these type of eaters.

I get my food, I got to like, I got to do the mayonnaise, make sure the mayonnaise, I got to eat my fries first, sandwich later, cut it up. What you putting mayonnaise on? I got it, my sandwich. I sandwich later, cut it up. Who are you putting mayonnaise on? I got it. My sandwich. I eat burgers. Make sure it all. What, save it for later?

No, just so like if I'm taking too long to eat my fries, watching a movie, laughing, talking. You have to reheat it up while you're still eating it for the first time? You're a weirdo. That's weird. I'm like the slowest. So you're a slow eater. I don't like eating in restaurants. There's another speed for that that's slower than slow.

Like we have teammates that, like Juan Dixon, he brought his own toilet paper and his own sheets. Sheets and bed towels? Yeah, bed towels. My coach for a night, Coach Hart, when he was in the league, he said he did the same thing. He said he never slept on hotel sheets and towels, never. See, these are things you learn as you get older in life,

because, you know. It's like stuff like that. So it's like Rob. You've been at the Ritz Carlton? Of course. It's Bonvoy now. Ritz is Bonvoy, so cutting corners. It's like little things so that the people who give it to you,

they need the money more than we did. You got to black like the sheets, dog. You got to, ooh, my own. Yeah, bring my own. I remember one of our, one of the staff members, right, so you know, like, there's, when it comes to like money and taxes, right,

you don't want to be the person that goes from being taxed like 23% and 32%, because it's basically a dollar, right? There's that, you get 23%, right? And then one more dollar, you're in whole another tax bracket. You don't want that dollar because you get that extra little bonus, 5,000, whatever that puts you over, you're poor, right? You're poor because that's a big jump. A higher tax. A higher tax.

A higher tax bracket, yeah. So you need a certain amount of money to actually jump in. So there was a dude who got a $5,000 bonus and he cried. He's like, I'm barely making it now. Now I'm losing more money. And we're sitting there like, damn, that's fucked up. What could have happened is you just, one of y'all could have took it and then cash it But we he didn't you know, so it was not our element. We should we don't know we our tax brackets our tax back

We don't know none of this shit down here but that's that's some crazy shit because I'm giving you a like every raise ain't worth it Hmm every raising work every raising work that shit. I can tell you that right now You better start looking at that like oh shit this $10,000 raise I actually need just to be just to make the same amount of money after taxes I might need an extra $40,000 just to make the same amount I used to be constantly that when I used to like take care of my folks

We never I never want them to overdo the tax break. So once we got to a certain amount Cash they right there stay The game is the game. Yeah, well, let's look ahead to this current playoffs coming up Which team is most likely to get upset in the first round? Do we have those we can pull the playoff brackets up for y'all the bugs So next you think the Bucks, yeah Do we have those we can pull the playoff brackets up for y'all? bugs So next you think the Bucks yeah Gilberto

If the Bucks lose can we make a Lexi's arena again presented by underdog fantasy woof woof God, I think the Clippers Is that upset upset though? I mean, technically it is, but... Alex, you said the Bucks. Brandon, you said the Clippers. Like, they got the same exact record. I think that Timberwolves' sons could get interesting, but I also think Ann and them could just smack them. I mean, yeah.

I don't know. This is probably one of the most evenly matched playoffs we've seen in a while. Right. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. As far as like records and seeding, they're not too much off other than the Celtics. I mean, the worst series is going to be the Cavs and the Magic. It's going to be worse because...

There's no star power. It's going to be the probably most competitive series. Paolo Becker? Yeah, that's going to be, yeah, the most competitive series is going to be that. Just like when it was the Knicks and the Cavs. That was Paolo Benke? Yeah, that's going to be the most competitive series. Just like when it was the Knicks and the Cavs. That was a really good series. I feel like Clippers and Mavericks and Cavaliers and Magic are going to be two heavily contested series. I feel like we're going to be super excited about one of them.

It's going to turn into a dud and disappoint us. But I feel like that Cavs-Magic could actually get interesting. I don't know if he thinks it's Lakers-Nuggets. I think it's going to be closer than people think too. Yeah, I hope so. I was thinking sweep at first, but now I'm thinking about it. I'm like, Lakers are sick. Even last season, the games, it was just close games.

We were talking about Winslow yesterday. I'm like, it could be closer. People don't realize the Nuggets' confidence is high. Lakers still have improvement. When you talk about Joker, Joker and them played perfect basketball. They played excellent basketball. So if they can figure out how to keep, you know, some of those shots that go in, which, you know,

it seems like that shit is technically normal to us. It'll be like, oh, shit, that seems like it's normal. He can just shoot from back there, right? So if they can try to figure out how to pull some games in, I mean, fuck, Miami won the game. God damn. With the AAU squad, so come on. Get it together. But does it feel like, we've talked

about this before, when teams are playing the Lakers and we saw it all season long, you saw guys coming off an injury just to play the Lakers and go right back. They get up for the Lakers in a different way than they get up for any other team. Man, come on.

Denver ain't like that. Denver ain't like that. Maybe some other teams. Denver is not happy. Like, oh, we about to play the Lakers. They could care less. I feel like there's a little bit something extra when they play the Lakers. Mike Malone, his LeBron situation.

I just think they take that game more serious than they would a game against the Heat or somebody else. Man, it's the playoffs. I understand that. They champions. With that purple and gold, people act different. They do. They do act different with that purple and gold. They act different. The Lakers have to win

one in Denver for them to have a chance. It would be preferably game one just to set the tempo. How healthy is Jamal Murray? Is he really all the way back? I hope not. Is he really all the way back? I hope not. If he's all the way back, it's just done. But that's the thing.

If he's not, though. They're going to play the way they're playing. It's really on the Lakers. Yeah. Right? Because, right, Joker played his ass off last year, right? Murray played his ass off last year, right? Murray played his ass off last year, right? Those guys played well and won.

Gordon. Gordon played well. They played well, and the games are still close at the end. LeBron played well. AD played well, right? Yeah. D-Lo has improvement, so you have someone who can improve from last year that changes the series. So if he can play well, right?

Be more competitive. And be more, it can be a more competitive game. So it's really on, right, we have a guy who averaged, what, 16 last year, who averaged four. If you just averaged 16, different outcome, right? So it's one of those things where this series series and I'm I will be speaking that to him We're gonna win this series if D'Lo shows up He said he went off the Angelo if D'Angelo Russell comes in his motherfucker man. I'm I man

All right, pack it up and fold y'all. I need Iceman. I need I need ice train So even before this season ad LeBron said they were looking forward to this rematch We will see you got it if they really meant it Darvin him not Six everybody the hands in your pocket. I can tell you this right now everybody who called out the Joker done God, they ass laughed at Has been a joke Like you say there's a certain people you can call out in life and you can get the best of him He ain't one of them.

Him, Michael Jordan, Kobe, some people just got to shut the fuck up. Right. Cancel Christmas. Even Dark 30 LeBron, he just should shut the fuck up sometimes. Fact. So what's your wildest NBA playoff prediction? When you look at these matches, what's the wildest prediction? We will come back and look and see if

they came true. Yo, I got the Kings beating the Thunder if they get in. Kings beating the Thunder if they get into the playoff. Now, that's wild. I would say the wildest one is Lakers beating Nuggets. What's so funny is the Kings' Thunders might be damn near even.

Because there was a two-seed last year, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If the Kings get in,unders might be damn near even. Because there was a two-seat last year, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If the Kings get in, the Thunder might be out of here. There were three. Warriors were six and Lakers were seven. Kings played defense. Grizzlies were two last year. Mike Brown.

Oh, Grizzlies were two? Yeah. But you look at that. If they can get past the Pelicans without Zion. I want the Kings to win. That can go six or seven and you wouldn't be surprised by it at all, which is crazy just the way this Western Conference is structured. You don't know in old times. That was a sweep like let's move on now He's messing around win one of those first two games

You know on the West on the West there's nothing there's no team that you look at and say They can't if y'all in the championship Like I mean if Kings make it to the championship you know that's that's weird But if Clippers make it there Mavs Timberwolves Suns Nuggets L're like, well, that's... Yeah, that makes sense. East? Tuh. If anybody other than Boston can get there, it's crazy. It's crazy. If anybody besides Boston gets there, you're like, oh, damn, that's crazy as shit.

I mean, you know, if... They're record, man. If Magic... Magic Cavs, motherfuckers. That sounds funny even saying it. Pacers, Knicks, you're like, god damn. Pacers, Thunder Finals, y'all not. Is anybody else other than Boston making it? Yeah.

I mean, nobody. And what the ratings are going to be if the Thunder play the Pacers in the finals? What would that look like? Smash record. What would those ratings look like? No, I'm just kidding. Right to the W. Hey, man, where's Caitlyn at, man?

Is the game's on yet? Caitlyn's on. Damn, dog. Caitlyn's coming on tomorrow. Ah, damn. Shit. I'm weak. Hey man, where's Kaitlyn at man? Is the game's on yet? Kaitlyn's not set. Damn, dawg. Kaitlyn's coming on tomorrow at 6. Ah, damn. Shit. I'm weak. Wow.

Alexi, what's your wildest prediction? That anybody outside of Boston makes it to the finals. So Boston, I mean fuck, look. Boston plays who? They're gonna play what? Let's just say the Bulls? Yeah. And then they get to play. Nah, let's not say that. Let's say the Heat.

Like, don't just skip us out like that. Okay. Let's just say the Bulls. I'm just saying because Jimmy, you know what I mean? Okay. So let's say they play the Bulls, right? Because they play the AFC, right? Yeah.

Yeah, let's say they play the Bulls, and then they get the Magic or Cavs. Wow. Dude, they're not, they're like strolling. They're strolling, dog. They're strolling through. They're not going, dude. They're not there's like strolling this role is all this through They're not gonna catch no play. They might catch up. Yeah, cuz even Thunder right you play Say you play the teens which that's gonna be a running match like so running and then you play the Clippers or the Mavs We tiredest shit. Luka is coming. Luka or Kawhi. Well, they're also going to be tired, too, I think.

And then, I mean, since I didn't... See, but that Thunder team, that ain't like from KD and them. See, that's why I'm calling Fuguezi. Which one? It's definitely not. That Thunder team. I don't think that Thunder team is that good like that right now. Not.

Like when KD and Russ know what you're doing. No, I mean, those are soup. You got stars. Those are stars. This is one. Yeah. It's still number one. This is one star just.

That's what I'm saying, man. It's like. When you're talking about, like, impact, we really do have to look at the dude's impact to team man shake you that's why if you know a MVP I don't understand. I got there's no there's no one on this motherfucking planet. Yeah, they would have had them number one not one player There's no there's I mean, no there was nobody that would have been like yo thunder gonna be number one at the end It would that would have been a horrible take a laughable laughable Goofy motherfucker

That's a Rashad Rashad would say everybody would have been looking at Rashad like shit Rashad will be back next week to address all you Negroes. No, I'm just saying, but that would have been, like, if that would have been a take that he would have, it would have been, that would have been a horrible take. For him to just, being his motherfucker, just laughing at everybody. So, the fact that that's what we're looking at, a team like that, that has no... No pedigree. No pedigree. No pedigree of winning, no stars, no...

Experience, nothing. No pedigree. No pedigree of winning. No stars. No experience. Nothing. No veterans. They're going to get some experience. If the Suns lose the first round, that's an upset? Nope. Okay. Right?

That's the best thing about the West right now. The only team that can say it's an upset is Kings. No. If Lakers beat the Nuggets, are we really like... The Nuggets could beat them eight straight times. It's not an upset. It's just like

what the Lakers expect. After they got swept last year? No way. Minimum games. But what I'm saying is, they got two Hall of Famers. Bonafide first ballot Hall of Famers. We ain I'm saying is they got two Hall of Famers. Bonafide first ballot Hall of Famers. We ain't got no Bonafide first Hall of Famers besides one.

It shouldn't be. But you got LeBron in year 21, which is we know everything he's doing. The man is old, dog. You're 21. I'm a LeBron fan. If he out there playing, we not about to. I'm just saying. As a Laker fan, I'm not even going to pretend that we can even ride this.

If we win, I can't even say that was an upset. Because everybody right here, besides the motherfucking Nuggets and Thunder, everybody else got multiple stars. That's true. Thunder and Nuggets are the only team in the playoffs that don't have two stars.

That's true. Chet. Chet's a star. He ain't made one. He ain't even made one. He's a star. He's that guy that... So as in star, you mean all-star.

As an all-star, all-NBA player, they're the only team that don't have it. Those two. Because even Kings got two of them, right? Mm-hmm, right? Yeah They both met. Yeah, so Mmm, it's gonna be exciting playoffs So before we get to mostly fans, I gotta get some love to Blake Griffin who announced his retirement via his Instagram on Tuesday Former number one overall pick spent the first seven and a half seasons of his career with the Lob City Clippers Played a total of 13 seasons with the Clips, Pistons, Nets, and Celtics,

six-time All-Star, five-time All-NBA selection of three second teams, two third teams, and rookie of the year. He also won a Dunn contest in the most blatant example of product placement we've ever seen in 2011. For his career, Griffin averaged 19 points,8 rebounds, 4 assists in 765 games with totals of 14,513 points, 6,109 rebounds and 3,055 assists. So what are your favorite memories from Blake Griffin from his career? He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. So him doing like, when he like poured the water on the fan behind him, when he was like doing all the little skits and stuff, like, I know that doesn't have anything to do with

basketball, but like his personality, like, he was a funny guy. How exciting were his first few years in the league? Like, it was... Dunk. That's what the young kids do. That's crazy. The young kids do nowadays. Yo, he's the greatest Clipper ever I

Mean besides Marcus Johnson, but yeah, yeah, no he's not he play like he could make that over I mean he should get his jersey retired. I think doc has said that the Clippers should retire him cp3 and DeAndre Jordans, I mean as much as As much as like, you know, I'm your favorite. I mean current Clipper fang over the reeners I think would agree with that. I mean if Current Clipper fan Gilbert Arenas, I think, would agree with that. I mean, if you look at the Clippers culture, right, you got, where does it start from? When it was at the, what, L.A. Sports Arena? The San Diego Clippers to L.A. Sports Arena. Yeah, the L.A. Sports Arena, that's where it starts, right.

Practicing at the YMCA. Right, then you got. The Vanguard Y. Yeah, then you got. Nails on the wall. Eldon Brand, Sam Cassell. Then you got the Darius Miles and Q Rich. And then you got Blake Griffin and then, you know, Chris Paul and them.

But Blake Griffin really started it for the Clippers. If you want to put it on a map, like to actually watch a Clipper game, it was Blake Griffin because of the way he was dunking. He was must-see TV for sure. Yeah. Posterizing. And you talk about changing that. I mean, Donald Sterling era of the Clippers, very foul-smelling,

very sixth-inch. They dealt with that, the whole V. Siviano situation. But those Lob City teams, especially with the Lakers kind of being in a down time. Whoa. During that era.

What era was this? Lakers were not good for a long time. A down period. When? When the Lop City Clippers were. When the Lop City Clippers were. With Chris Paul, Blake Griffin.

When Doc had everybody. That's right. It was a scary time. When Doc had everybody. They were the baby Lakers. I remember everyone was so excited for the baby Lakers, and they got rid of everybody. I don't remember this.

Oh, my God. I remember. What, Julius remember. I don't remember this. Oh my God. I remember... What, Julius Randle? Ingram? Clarkson? D'Lo? Weren't they all in it? I don't know none of those, but I mean, you mean Kobe? You mean Kobe Bryant? Yeah. When Kobe Bryant was on the team? Kobe was hurt. Kobe was hurt a lot.

I think Kobe was hurt during that time. A lot. Yeah, that's why he was trying to hop with the baby. That's when Clifford Darrell started shaking, you know? Twerk City? Oh, Twerk City! I think I was hurt doing that time a lot That's what Clipper Darrell started shaking, you know City oh, yeah, everybody's shaking ass in the scenes. Oh pop it low Darrell back then You're a Clipper fan. I mean, it was all good. Twerk City. It was a pop it low look like. Pop it low is crazy. Instead of throwing the lobs and stuff, everybody twerking on the go.

OK, Twerk City, yeah. Pop it low is crazy. You are a resident Clipper. They beat us in the playoffs. I remember that. I was with Memphis. Well, came down here, they twerking on the sidelines and stuff, yeah.

I mean, I'm just being honest. It was better than the Clipper dancers, to be honest. As soon as the lob came, the weird... Oh, everybody got to twerking. They the ones who started that. It was not Megan City, other than Megan Astaire. It was the Clippers. Clippers, one of two teams in the league with zero retired jerseys.

You think Blake Griffin gets that? Yeah, for sure. Who's that team? The Raptors. Yeah, they should retire in the new with zero retired jerseys, you think Blake Griffin gets that? Yeah, for sure. The Raptors. They should retire in the new arena, too. They put all the other jerseys up, too. Gil Kapp, the Kings, don't have an all-star. You motherfuckers are stupid. Let them have it, Gil.

Gilbert Darien. He has been one before, right? Darren Fox. Did he make an all-star? Yes, that means he's a fucking all-star right Data Sabonis ever make all-star. Yes. He's fucking all-star. So they have two fucking all-stars on the team In the discussion the end right?

Man that heart is funny. Now I'm going to write nice to you. I can't wait to see other WBA players. I feel like that's going to be like the running troll now. Just hit her with the heart. For sure. Three in the grill, hit her with the heart. That's the troll. So looking at Blake Griffin's career stats and knowing the criteria to get into the Basketball

Hall of Fame. You gotta stop. Come on, man. Come on, man. People have got in with... Is there a Clipper in the Hall of Fame? That was a trick question. We know that.

We know that answer. We're trying to get one in. We are trying to get one in. We are trying to get one in. We are trying to get one in. We would appreciate your support. We've had some finalists. First, Hawaii.

I'm not going... First, Hawaii. What's the one Clipper... Never mind. Let me stop. He be at some finalists. I'm not going what's the one clipper? No, never mind Let me stop PB at the Jew League Hey the Julie was saying Keith Keep close. Yeah, yeah legend legend Real la real Real la real la run everything. Yeah, you play fucking slippers

Straight la chucks everything for real As our producers would like you to know, Gil, Paul Pierce, Chauncey, Dominique, Bill Walton, Grant Hill, all in the Hall of Fame, had limited stints with the Clippers. All our producers also. We'll take it. We'll take it. I forgot. Damn, Chauncey and them did play for the Clippers, huh?

Damn. They played an hour. I mean, I'm just saying. I played against Chauncey when he played for the Clippers. As a matter of fact. They played an hour for the Clippers. Clippers had a lot of. Clippers had a lot of. A an hour. I mean, I'm just saying, but... I played against Chauncey when he played for the Clippers. As a matter of fact. They played an hour for the Clippers. Clippers had a lot of... Clippers had a lot of... Oh, those are not...

Those are not Clipper players. Yo, I'm not going to front, man. The Clippers don't kick it. Clippers great. Clippers great. When you go to the Clippers, that's when you know your career's over. When you go to the Clippers, you're like, oh, shit, is it? This is it. Nah, no. Maybe before. to the Clippers, you're like, oh, shit, this is it. This is it. Nah, no. Maybe before.

Sacramento. All right, now. When you go to Sacramento, towards the end of your career, it's over. The Donald Sterling era, yes, Gil, that was the general consensus. Where your career comes, they die. Now, I ain't going to front, though, but the Clippers legend, like if they did like a Legends night, that should have looked like the BET Awards. No, well, all the niggas that put on a Clipper jersey?

No, you said legends. That means they had to be a legend in that uniform. But I'm saying like. So that means Paul Pierce wouldn't be there. Okay, alumni. Okay, alumni. Clipper alumni. Everybody who just put the jersey on.

Nobody claim. Nobody going to claim that. Man, niggas coming to that. Nobody coming to that. Your favorite coach, Doc Rivers, Clipper alumni. We look like a party. Everybody getting awards. There's a lot of dudes that play for the Clippers for a limited time.

Am I on them? Everybody. Yeah, the goods. You know how many people, man, play for the Clippers? Like a gang. Hall of Fame stuff, though. I'm going to say given the criteria of the Hall of Fame, I understand. Six, was it six what?

So five All-NBAs, six All-Stars. Is D-Rose a Hall of Fame? 13th season. 13 D-Rose a Hall of Fame? 13 seasons. 13 seasons, that's... 14,500 points. See my... I understand. Like Deion Sanders, I think the Hall of Fame should be very exclusive.

Yeah. Not the Hall of Very Good or it's got to be like... Pro Football Hall of Fame, much more strict criteria. I mean, how good? MLB said. He got more All-NBAs than some of the other goddamn Hall of Fam, much more strict criteria. MLB said. He got more all NBAs than some of the other goddamn Hall of Famers. I don't mean that. They maybe shouldn't have been in there.

But they there. Like we said, there should be different stages of Hall of Fame. When you think of Hall of Fame, man... When you think... We're thinking just greats. Not good. When you think of the best of the best we're thinking just greats Not good. Not very good. Not enough grease. You talking magic bird like

Jordan will be but are you talking about just dudes that were just Forces that just couldn't be controlled Right, so they should get a different jacket. They should get a different jacket. There should be another motherfucking... Separate wing for all you other niggas. We let very good guys into the Hall of Fame. Should be the best of your generation.

Yes. You should be a... You should be a dominant person in your era. Yes. So you got to be a top five or top ten player? In your era, yes. That's it. That's what your era. Yes. So, like, you got to be, like, a top five or top ten player? In your era? In your era, yes. That's it.

I mean... Okay. You should long... Like, the long, Jeopardy, you got, you know, 20,000 points, but you played damn near 25 years.

You got one all-star, one all-NBA. Like, get the fuck out of here. Are you talking about anybody in particular? Who is that? I'm just saying. Who is that?

Like, who is that? Just who? It is... Want to see if that resume cats laid that I'm Too tired you got two time all NBA like nigga you would two Tom all in the door You wouldn't a dominant motherfucker play on the NBA dog, right? Good but somebody got hurt the best how you got it Somebody got hurt like they think they're like everyone taught like when I see shit is like 12-time all-star 12-time all-nba like that's like oh shit that motherfucker was a motherfucker. Yeah. Yo

Top 15 and multiple categories top 10 and stuff like that 12-time all-star two-time all-nba nigga Come on. He was a fan for you as a fan favorite love and coaches like you Somebody in particular I look at I be look I be look I be looking at it. Put it in my Gil Haight app. I just be looking. There's people in the Hall of Fame, top 75, that got 6,000 points, 4,000 rebounds.

Like, come on, dog. No, I'm real. I think you should be able to get replaced. Or booted out. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. No, no, no. You can't do that. Because according to your error, Like a booted out there removing and like get the fuck out of here. No, no Because according to your air and the stats in this air might not equate to the stats But it all if they are big dudes, they should be able to give it a bit. Oh, no, they do it

That's what I'm saying. Everything else everything else in sports has numbering Scoring title assist. Everything is numbering right? So when you pass them title, everything is numbering, right? So when you pass a motherfucker, you pass him. Go down. Nah, Gil.

It has to be the same thing. The errors are different, though. Scoring champion 74 is going to be different than scoring champion, but he dominated his area of play. No, LeBron passed Kareem. Right.

What? So what'd that mean? What you trying to say? He passed Kareem. That motherfucker up there was in the 70s. That's total story. Total, but that's everything.

So they should be, if you're going to rank everybody, top 75, rank them. Right? So that means 75. I can't be like that. Whoever number 70. Everything is not a counting stat. Everything is not. We can't break the game down to that.

That's what casuals do. That's that analytical. But can we rank the top 75 players of all time, though? Like, can we rank them from 1 to 75 so we can see where people at? That's what I'm saying. Can we just rank you? You're saying, as they continue to make these lists, people put them off the list. Yes, yes.

Remove. Like, get the fuck off. Like, right now, we have a... Top 75 for whatever. You have to just start labeling them? Yeah, right now, the top 5 point... Because that doesn't take away from the fact that you were top 75 at one point. No, I don't. Right. You're just not there anymore. Yeah, right now, top five point... Because that doesn't take away from the fact that you were top 75 at one point. No, it don't. You're just not there anymore.

Yeah, you're just not there, yeah. You're like the top five point guards of all time, right? It's not the same list as it was in the 90s. It's not the same list as it was in the 80s. Don't take away...

People moved and... Don't take away their greatness during the era. No, it doesn't take away... They should still be in the Hall of Fame based on what they did. No, no, no.

It should be still there. Well, you can't change the Hall of Fame because they're on the fucking... There's some cast that get in the Hall of Fame that's like... You're like, yeah.

Like, come on, man. We don't have to have an induction every however many years. It might be some years, hey, we don't have no qualified people on to the next. They're getting their money, though. It should be like gold, bronze, and silver. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It should be levels. It should be three levels of hall of fame. Like gold tier, hall of fame.

Some cast are getting in there and should be nowhere near the Jordan and Shaq and will know made down on the first floor like this is like you know how to be doing like they'd be Doing that with us. They'd be like our tier players Dollars they do dollars three make your starting five you got $15 fat. Yeah, right You got $15 right the same shit. That's how we think too, right? There's five dollar players Right, it's four dollar three dollar two dollar one dollar We got $15 right the same shit. That's how we think too, right? There's five out of players, right? It's $4 $3 $2 $1 No, no, we still ain't gonna make it up we are we can bronze Summer pay for my booth for going to Europe. I'm definitely all the time you Everything I want levels of it. I want to be in

Bogey we intend bogey bogey Everything I want levels of it. I want to be in We in 10 bogey bogey, that's what color is I'm in it 10 bogey bogey. That's what the fuck we are Teen bogey bogey, whatever the fuck that mean Alright, alright, let's move on to mostly fans. We're in the Negro League. Sorry. The Negro. Like, what... Like, okay, now think about it. If there was...

If there was just a gold standard, right? If there was a gold standard... Would you go by, like, all NBA MVPs? What would you go by like to put to make that list championships all MVPs

all first teams defensive player of the year all defensive team all of that combined combination all of that um

um it's like gold medals like does it start you know that's what I'm saying but no because the Olympics wasn't for everybody

at the beginning okay so like would you start at like the to even even be qualified for that, at least two MVPs to start it off with? Be a Hall of Famer? No, no, the gold, that gold standard.

Oh, that gold, yeah, yeah, yeah. At least two. Two MVPs. Two MVPs, maybe a scoring title. And two championships, unless you have an all-time record. That would be the only thing. So, say you maybe not have a championship, but you're the all-time leading scorer You mean rebound or something that could exclude that but it should be two championships to MVP to even even be getting

Okay, so somebody how about like this like what about somebody like will only have one Wilson ambition has a lot of all-time. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh a lot like 90 of see at that's like we have criteria that like you don't have this but you got this, you know what I mean? So, all right, so to At least two. Yeah, you at least gotta go back to back I got me like so like how many scoring titles can knock off one? MVP in championship How many scoring titles a I? Because he's gold. Nah.

AI's not at the top of the top. Gold is Mike Jordan. AI is gold. Kobe. Everybody on that gold level. Shaq. AI four-time scoring champ. See how many scoring champs take out

four? That gets him to silver for sure. He gets a skip. Okay. Damn. Okay, I mean, if you're going to put winning in there, I mean, I agree. Like, Isaiah's gold, two-time MVP. I mean, back-to-back.

Is Isaiah gold? Isaiah Thomas? Isaiah Thomas? I don't know if he's gold. How many MVPs he got? None. No. No, but he has two MVPs.

He has one finals MVP. He has a finals MVP? Not two, though. It got to be both. But he got two rings, though. Finals MVP wouldn't be super, super high because sometimes it's just whoever is playing really well. That's rare. The Iguodala finals, that's rare. Most times it goes to the...

See, so somebody like John Stockton and they'll be silver Yes, I stuck on silver suck on silver. Actually. He's all-time leader in assists and steals to Steve Nash I know so she's feeling gold. No, not stocking our gold. I think John Stockton John Stockton still did assist No scoring title. Top five point guard all time. You got two all-time NBA records, though. That's what I'm saying. That could supersede. You got to put him in with magic. The magic? Yeah.

You got two all-time records. Beside him, you can't. You can't be magic. You got that. You talking about magic. We talking about curry. Like, that's. So there might, like.

You see why they don't have tears? They just put them all in there. Yeah. It's very hard to distinguish. Okay, like, if we said, all right, let's just little. How many point guards that we can think of right now without even doing stats would be considered gold monument? Three. Just three?

Magic, Oscar, and Steph. Okay. That's it. That's automatic. Automatically. Okay, without thinking. Steph is a unanimous MVP.. That's automatic. Automatically. Okay, without thinking. Steph is a unanimous MVP. He's an all-time leader in three-pointers,

and he got four championships and finals MVP. Magic, you ain't got to go down here. Yeah, you ain't even got to, okay. And Oscar, you ain't got to go down here. Triple-double, got a championship. Scoring titles. All right, so shooting guards. Mike.

Two. No, three. Dwayne. No. No? Dwayne Wade is gold. No, I'm just saying he is, but that ain't the three I'm thinking of. I'm thinking of Jordan, Colt, and Jerry West.

I'm thinking the old times. Jerry West got more points. Look at his stats. His stats is crazy. Yeah, yeah. All-time record is crazy. Yeah, they're crazy. All-time is crazy.

Not a little bit crazy. So you got those three. All right. Small forwards? Four. Larry. got those three. All right. Small forwards. Four. Larry. LeBron. KD.

KD. That's one more I'm missing. A three man. Is it a world beat for now? Moses? No, it's an area power forward. Moses Malone is a center. Oh, he's a center.

He's from the Sixers. He's a center. What, a third one I'm missing? Shit, you can go Scottie Pippen. I'm a MVP doctor. See, the ABA, he dominated the NBA, so it should be Dr. J, but because of... Elgin Baylor gets some love in that discussion? Elgin Baylor.

Because he was cooking niggas and going to the Army every weekend. Elgin Baylor. And his numbers is crazy. Can nobody tell you the fuck, bro? I'm just saying. No, just serving his country and serving his own court. Let me see. Julius. Yeah, Dr. J.

It gotta be Dr. J. Yeah, the 16-time All-Star, two-time NBA champ, seven-time All-NBA, five-time All-NBA champ, two-time All-Star. How many NBA champs? Four times MVP. Yes, Dr. J. Those four. Low-key might gotta get in there.

He's not a gold level, because he's number one option. Scottie Pippen. He's not a gold. Oh, hell no. He's not a gold. He was at six camps. No, you can't be. Who? Scotty Pippen. He's not a goal. Oh, hell no. He's not a goal. No, you can't be. You wasn't even first option. So it's hard.

Come on. You know, he was the first option when Mike left. Yeah, okay. He doesn't say you're not even a first option. So that even means. He's not even doing that. So how about Power Fords? Tim Duncan.

Dirk. Dirk won? Karl Malone. Karl Malone. I'm doing championship in VPS first oh they're got one MVP got that's a he won't even qualify yet huh he got MVP in the finals MVP so just Tim Duncan Duncan Dirk is gold I was gonna say there's darkness with that but see then he see he got 30,000 was a funny We retired Having the MVPs in the championship

Be different from player to player, right? But that damn a lot. Oh right now, but right, is Garnett gold? Tim Duncan is the only one. So, basically, so right now, Tim Duncan is the only one, technically, that would be. For power forward. Because it's going to be a lot of centers. There's going to be a lot of centers that's gold. Wow, that's crazy. You can put Carmelone in there off the numbers.

Carmelone was, he was second all-time. But that's what I'm saying. When you think about it, like, the second time all-time scoring but he would be probably the power for to be the weakest position in gold because yeah yeah everybody else is loaded in chance a lot of Silver's don't you search that there be a lot of little bit because that point though you got championship breeze and all scoring titles and shit is loaded position is loaded though. Now, centers? Yeah. You got Bill Russell, Wilt Shack.

You got Hakeem Olajuwon. You got J'Kream Abdul-Jabbar. Ooh. Um... Them sticks are shoe-in. That's it? David Robinson? Mmm. He only got one?

The championships? Nah, he got... David Robinson got five. David Robinson got two. Two championships? Nah, he got... Dave Robinson got five. Dave Robinson got two. Two championships. Who? Jokic. Fucking Jokic.

Jokic just... He go in there. If he get two championships, how many MVPs he got? He got two MVPs. He boot somebody off the bench. If he win a championship this year, he's gold. He in there. He's gold.

Yeah, he be gold. Yeah. From this era, you have Giannis as a power forward. Giannis is gold. Damn, yeah, Giannis is gold. Power forward. Let's keep it moving. Let's do Mousy fans one more time.

For those who weren't paying attention. We're actually going to do it for real this time. Gotcha. Dennis Rodman is gold. Dennis Rodman is gold. Dennis Rodman is gold. Dennis Rodman is gold. Dennis Rodman is gold. That's a good-ass topic, dog.

That's a good-ass. Someone said Barkley. Stop. We're going to hit it hard this summer. We've got to be in there, bro. So was Steve Nash in there? He had a two-time MVP. So first question.

Because that's all he asked. First question from underdog user D. Colbert. Compare Drake Hendrick and J. Cole's careers to NBA players all time. Damn, that's tough. Ooh. Hold on. I tried to have this conversation. Y'all go first.

Let me say. I don't have an answer for this. Drake. Be mindful that you don't want to get brought into this beef by saying something they don't agree with. Alright, listen bro, we gotta go. Don't say nothing disrespectful. No, no, no. What's disrespectful?

I mean, okay, so, well, we gotta go. This era or just period? Period. Oh yeah, is it period or just this era? If it's this era, that's different. Keep it this era. Yeah, keep it this era. I'll see a legend's name and disrespect one of the legends. We'll do it this era. They said all time, but you can keep it to this era, that's different. Keep it this era. Yeah, keep it this era. I'll see a legend's name and just respect one of the legends.

We'll do it this era. They said all time, but you can keep it to this era. We'll just keep it to this generation. Keep it safe, because I was about to go nuts. All right, go ahead. Kendrick is... Kendrick is either... I'll say he's Jokic.

Right? He's Jokic. Okay. Right? Great, but not the most popular out of the group. Right? I'll say... J. Cole is probably like a Tatum Right Tatum or Ant-Man right we keep he's like right sitting here All right quits when the shit gets tough like no no not quit. No you just say no no what I'm saying What I'm saying is he's he's battle he has he's different super time. He's different

He's different right and then you have Drake as damn near Who you say maybe Luca or something like that? Who's more who's who's who's gaming is there, but it's he's more popular than everybody good Look it's popular like but not popular like Jerry We can only go by this year's players. I mean, he gotta be shot. Luka is popular like that. Oh, yeah, SGA would be a good one.

So he gotta be SGA. But SGA's not popular. Or he can be like Steph. Favorite top and all-star voter, it was Luka and Steph in the run. It could be Steph. It could be Steph. It might be Steph. Steph. He could be Steff. He could be Steff. He might be Steff.

Steff Eddie. Yep. Steff 4. Steff 4. Does numbers. A little bit untouchable. A little bit untouchable. Yes.

Yeah, it's like, I mean, like, if we said that. He was going to say some wild stuff. Who was he going to say? I want to hear his list. He was going to say some names like Michael Jordan. I was going to have to headlock him over here. Like, stop that. No, I want to hear.

I was just going to say, like, I don't know. I mean, shit, J. Cole is KD. OK. OK, yeah. I like that. Yeah, I like that don't know let me sit Jay Co is Katie okay okay yeah like that yeah yeah you know I go where shit is easy and then you know what is she good no not about hey man he said what he said I'm still fucking Katie I'm just I'm just talking about it is that's what I'm doing I'm talking about this skills versus the popularity now We're talking about the whole thing. Overall, everything. Everything.

The whole thing. We're talking about everything. We're talking about everything. Because he saw J. Cole apologize. Because he apologized. Yeah. Yeah. So what's next?

People were not happy about that. I'm going to give Drake to Jason Tatum. Okay. And then Kendrick. The'm gonna give Drake to Jason Tatum. Okay And then Kendrick the light-skinned connection honey light-skinned. Yeah. Yeah, keep the light skin things together Then Kendrick I'm gonna cuz I'm gonna give him Jimmy Butler It's like Because he saw when it come on like no, I like a lot like yeah like a lot like co-ordinated Yeah, I wasn't gonna get to wrap Like Kawhi. Like Kawhi. Like, yeah, like Kawhi and Jimmy. That's a good one. I like that. Like, yeah.

I wasn't going to get too rapid. I mean, you know. I actually like that one. What? I like that way of thinking for the players. I still think Steph is Drake. Yeah, I was just thinking, like, there's only, out of the three, there's only one mega superstar. They do.

Yeah, Drake is world. Like, Drake is the mega superstar out of the group, right? Sure That's real. Yeah, but that's it. That was my argument with players like There's just one has the he has the it factor that different genres just different He can steph can go in any room business room. He's a he's the regular smuggler. He could ain't nobody looking to hurt him Oh, no, he's made good making i mean one might be more dangerous on the microphone or whatever but you know it's like well i mean when when when the dust is settled one is there like he'll always be there drake drake drake drake i mean you're gonna have

kids saying like you know like you're you know that's what i said sometimes the lyrics is way they don't like drake i listen to drake've got it if you want to chill with a female you better have some Pure or you kind of whack. I'm just gonna be honest fellow Even if you don't like it, you better get used to you don't want that Brent fires You know so funny like for you know, don't that Brent for a minute change change the Bible Yeah, we don't know. So we keep depending on the license. It gets to show us look love. Man, we, come on. Bobby Brown over here. Hey, well, I mean, when it comes to sales, right, when it comes to sales, how ticket sale is number one customer, single women.

Drake. Single women are the number one customer on ticket sales. Second is couples. They still listening to Drake? Yep, because they're going to be bringing your girlfriend, like, and then niggas. Then the gays. Males, yeah, gays, then males. Yeah.

Males is last. No, not true. It got to be women, couples, the gays, and then niggas. Like straight men. Like, think about it. Because niggas will be cheating. I don't want to go there by myself. You sitting here.

Amen. No, you're not going to Drake. You're not going there to see other. Even if you go to like a. I saw a lot of men in there by myself. Where? Just thugs. Just in there looking.

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