Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down The West's RED HOT Playoff Race

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down The West's RED HOT Playoff Race as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets grabbing the #1 seed with a BIG Win over Anthony Edwards' Minnesota Timberwolves and debate if this performance locked up Joker's 3rd MVP Award. They also break down the Dallas Mavericks 16-2 stretch to cement their spot in the NBA Playoffs, discussing if Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving are finally showing enough chemistry to take this team over the edge and previewing their already locked in 1st round battle against the Los Angeles Clippers. Finally, they address Charles Barkley calling Kevin Durant & The Phoenix Suns soft and debate how much pressure is on the Suns' Big 3 to deliver in the postseason. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Tickets for Gil’s Arena Live Are Now On Sale - http://bit.ly/GilsArena_Live Live at the El Rey Theater in LA, on April 14th at 6:00 pm Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:07:48 Joyner Lucas Says "We Used To Talk" 0:15:19 Did Joker Lock Up His 3rd NBA MVP? 0:23:42 The DPOY Gets Dunked On 0:39:44 KAT Cleared To Return 0:48:47 Mavs Call Luka The Real MVP 0:57:40 Is Kyrie The Best 1on1 Player Ever? 1:13:52 Is Russ The NBA's Best 6th Man 1:25:45 Destroying the MVP Voting Process 1:33:09 Charles Barkley Calls KD & Suns Soft 1:41:56 Previewing The Mavs-Clippers Playoff Matchup 1:56:29 Can The Bucks Survive Without Giannis?? 2:01:46 Doc Rivers Did Nate Robinson Dirty 2:08:29 MostlyFans 2:20:50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gil, the chat said those are saucy. Stop. Nobody said that. Sassy. He ain't even got no chat up saying that J kids I remember those back in the day. Yeah, I know it's really it. Whoa. It's a nice. Okay, like I said, you're here standing Bring a Reebok back. That's what started those right there. Whatever they pay you. They need to pay you more cuz say again You're inspiring the next generation to rock Reebok

Shout out to cam Hicks who blessed us with some custom Reeboks. We should do a dunk contest. You put your pop shoes on. You want me to participate? No, we're going to lower the ramp. To what? No, Gil. Four feet?

Seven and a half, seven and a half. And then you come in and... With AI, you can do a lot. Recreate it. Recreate it.. My brother is gonna do it at some point. He got to Smart enough It's not gonna be better This is Gil's arena presented by under dog fantasy as always. We got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us How you doing Gil? So you working hard last night. Back with us this morning.

Hardest working man on YouTube. Oh, shit. Not even close. We got Lexi Brown back here with us. Okay. Yay, thank you. Thanks, Steve. You know, we only got you for, what, a few more weeks before you got to go to, you know, your other job.

My other job. Your other job. My other job. Live from the camp. Live from the camp. Now zoom in. We can put a body cam. We can put like a GoPro. A GoPro?

Yeah, put a GoPro. You out there talking shit. We going to work on it. She's busting her ass right there. Alright, cool. GoPro it is. We got Norris on it. She's busting her ass right there. All right, cool. Go pro this. We got Norris Cole back here with us again. You gotta start wearing the rings and just flex on this. No, I don't do that.

That's doing too much. Because she got one too. I do. You know what? I might, you know what? Just, you know, save it. So I'm just saying. For the right playoff time.

Okay, just saying. You know, save it, but definitely get your flex on. And we got Kenya Martin. Yep. What's happening? What'd the shirt say? Oh, okay. I love when my wife let me go fishing.

That's important. Great shirt. Fine print. Fine print. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Nuggets beat the Wolves to take sole possession of first in the West, but did Joker lock up the MVP with his 40-piece on the league's best defense? The Mavs are 16-2 in their last 18 games

and have the best defense in the league in that span, but will it be enough for Luka and them to snap their playoff losing streak to the Clippers? They got Kyrie there now. It might be a different tune this year. And the Suns have been inconsistent all season. And Charles Barkley thinks they're mentally weak and soft. But is he right?

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So let's get into it. Recently on the Jason Lee Show, Joyner Lucas, let it be be known him in Ashanti used to talk during her break from Nelly Ashanti and Nelly have since reunited and are expecting their first child But what Twitter legend talk about she's pregnant what I didn't know that Such a cute baby. That's gonna be a cute baby It's gonna be a little cute baby we got tons of basketball but Twitter led your big business all this Saw this nasty work. I saw this nasty work had to take a stand He said I say this for all my brothers out there do not be a we used to talk type of guy Please don't

nasty So is it nasty say we used to talk Lexi? lexi yeah why like for what just to let it be no you're a loser if you say that keep it to yourself or you're a loser for messing with me no sometimes things just don't work out don't be a loser especially when they was he had a lot of time to present this information to the world so now you want to wait until she's happy and thriving. Now you want to be like, oh, by the way, no, loser.

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Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Okay, okay, I feel like... Yeah, I like Jonah Lucas too. He can rap like some bitch, but not... I'm just happy to see you in the cover. Yeah, no, I'm relaxed and I am. Yeah. Keep it to yourself. The people that need to know, know. I'm just happy to see you in the cover. Yeah, no, I'm relaxed now, y'all. Keep it to yourself. The people that need to know, know. Right. Right?

The people that was in the circle, know. The people that was around, know. It ain't for everybody. Yeah, that's white. That's lame. Since when is it cool for everybody to know what you used to do? Exactly. So how did y'all feel about Ray J dropping I Hit It First?

I think we've seen that. We've seen him. It was a good song though. We watched it. We already knew. We watched that one. Ray J, we already knew. We all have the internet. We watched it.

Kris Jenner, you know. Loser behavior. Visionary. We watched that joint. He went, oh gee. Lexi, have you ever had to check a guy for saying that we used to talk in your business out there? No.

No. Okay. Just ask it. No. My business to myself. Can I see you looking down in deep thought? What? I mean, you only get mad when the ugly ones do it.

You know them rough? You know them drunk nights? The body look banging. One of them 10 to 2 girls at 10 o'clock. At 10 o'clock, they twos. By 2 o'clock, they tens. Once that licker hit. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and that's...

You be like, come on, dog. Come on, sweetheart. Come on, sweetheart. You can't come on in there with that face. Everybody's going to think that was it. You got to show

the body. Neck down. So they'd be like, oh, okay, I see what Gil's seeing that. Jesus. Well, let's keep this thing moving.

A lot of basketball. I used to have a shirt, shirt to walking in the club with that I'm looking for ten to two girls You had a shirt that sound like you remember back back early like like the airwound graphics I was the ones people just used to put writings on this shit. Yeah, man. My boy used to I had the machine at home Oh you did you? Had a shirt machine. I was making them at home and wearing them to the club. Just like him. Yeah, see?

What did your shirt say? In college, in the league. All kind of ignorant shit. When you were in the league? Yes. What's the most ignorant shirt that you can remember rocking to the club? Ugly hoes think I'm arrogant. You printed that?

Just one? You wore it and that was it? All of them was one of one. One of one. You just wear it one night and that's it? Yeah, that was it. That's funny as hell. There was a lot of Jeezy quotes, too.

We learn something new every day on this show. A lot of Jeezy quotes. I would have never paid you at the time to be a human being to have this. I always wanted a custom shirt maker for my own. Oh, yeah, we was printing them off. Ignorant, just ignorant shit. If I had some, like, we was printing them off for the Ignorant just if I had some like it was white wouldn't if I had some white and orange kicks I wanted to wear I went that bitch put the orange letters on the white, you know, we had boxes of white tea

5x joint, yeah 5 a 6s motherfucking galaxy just so yeah was printing teams at the house. Why do we do that? Why would I don't know how it became a thing? But I just said the movies just sit there just thinking of wild shit there put on the shirt so we can wear it in the club I'm cuz I like to 70 80 there were in tight shit. Then we just decided we're gonna work six seven X pro clubs Yeah, I was a galaxy do my hand like the clubs. So you're coming to you. I will gather I was more of a galaxy do it. I was buying a bitches by the box

Now I was in places in Newark that I shouldn't had no played business being early on Then when I got the Denver, I had to order them from the spots Yeah, they was yeah, and then putting the most ignorant shit you can think of on a shirt. Wearing that shit to the... Like, just... No shame. No, none.

I had a friend. Now, this is funny, because it is Me Too type shit. He had a shirt. He only wore it at the bar. It was a don't pass out, itch out fuck. Right? While giving girls drink at the ball. Yeah.

Right? So they could see it and then just, it was more funny. Yeah, that's, yeah. At the time, at the time,

that gives Bill kind of a type. What I'm saying is at the time, think about it. Someone has a shirt that says it and they just keep

offering you drinks. It's just sense of humor. It's Ellie's sense of humor. Okay. Yeah, no, it does sound like humor. It's Ellie's sense of humor. OK. No, it just sounds like that. That's what it is.

Yeah. Sorry, is that like my 10 and 2 girls, though? No. Like when G said, I ain't leaving nothing at the crib, I got it all. I was in the club, nigga, with every piece of jewelry I own. Listen, yo. Let's keep this moving.

No, you that nigga doing wild shit. $100,000 on watches and shit. Just to know what time it is. Oh, yeah. $100,000 on my wrist. Yeah, life sucks. I can't even read the watch. Did you used to hold it up like that?

No, no. Just let people see it? No. I mean, listen. If the girl famous, I'm saying something. Let me have sleep with Oprah. You said Oprah? This nigga here.

Oprah, Beyonce, anyone. You'd be a super loser. I don't care. I don't care. Do I care? Why do you want to be a loser, though? Because I... You think that's going to help you in the future?

No, no, no, no, no. Like, what is the purpose? The purpose is... As someone who will proudly do what we call loser behavior, what is the end game? So, I publicly say, yo, I used to bang that. And then she has a bunch of fans, right? And people that want to be like her.

What do you think they do? So you're a fame home. Low self-esteem, run right through the DM. Oh, my God. Dun, dun, dun. This guy's famous. Listen, there's more low self-esteem than y'all can imagine. Oh, no.

No, that's for sure. For sure. If you ever think of... You remember when I said that thing about the WNBA? What thing? No, when I said the girls in the WNBA? What thing? No, when I said the girls in the WNBA need to wear this. Yes. Right, and then I said, you know, some of those girls

are like Orange is the New Black. Okay. Do you know how many WNBA girls were sending pictures in the DMs and said, do I look like one of them? No, you don't. What's happening? Gil always playing chess. Playing chess. I got them know you don't was having you always play all I need is a few in the DM

I don't need the whole WNBA but trust me I'll be a player stay out of guilt they was way too much so do I look like oh is the new no you No, you don't. We're waiting for your tell-all book. No, you don't, Shawty. Leave us out of it. If you write an autobiography, you will officially be canceled. But let's see Dusty. Let's move on to some basketball

because that's what some of the people are here for. That was basketball. It was basketball. So the Wolves and Nuggets met in Denver for the final time this season with the top spot in the West on the line. And Nikola Jokic made a statement on Gobert and the Wolves' top-ranked defense. Joker put up 41 points, 11 rebounds, 7 dimes on the second night of a back-to-back. Come here, you little baby, you.

In four games against the Wolves this season,'s averaging 33 12 and 4 assists in the three games that go bearers played. He's averaging 33 10 and 5 and doing things like this so Mayor may not have been a preview of a potential Western Conference Finals matchup And go bear what currently defensive player of the year. Christian Brown switched a hand on him. Hit him with the lefty. Lay poster.

Soccer a blue. Damn. That's elite. Same. Went up for a layup and then decided to dunk. I've been telling KJ to do this shit for over a year. That dunk right there. Jump off your right because he jump off his right leg, right?

He's coming with his left hand all the time. I'm saying, dude, jump off your right, go up with both hands at the last minute. Right, boom. I've been telling him to do it. I saw that shit last night. I'm like, way to go, young fella. Yeah, yeah. What do we think Christian Brown said after he dunked on Gobert?

He yelled something. K-Mart, what's up? Do you not know defense and play yet? No, I'm kidding. Don't go there. He yelled something. K-Mart, what's up with you? Do you not know if you can play? No, I'm kidding. Definitely didn't say that. In his head. In his head.

So with the win, the Nuggets move into first place in the West with two games that the Spurs and Grizzlies left on the schedule. They need to win one of those games to lock up the one seed. If they do, it'll be their those games to lock up the one seed. If they do, it'll be their second straight year being the number one seed. They're also one win away, I think, from tying their franchise record for wins, which is 57. They got 56 right now. So they're going for both

goals then. Yeah. But, should the Nuggets and Wolves end up with the same record, the Wolves would own the tiebreaker and they also own the tiebreaker against the Thunder. So still, it's so important and meaningful basketball left to play, but let's talk about Joker The 41 piece 11 rebounds seven dimes against the NBA's top ranked defense Did he lock up his third MVP with this performance? I Think so, yeah I think so. Yeah. Don't be...

I hate to admit it, but yeah, he did. Give me love! It seemed like they were trying to, like, move it to Luka for some reason. It seemed like they were trying to, like, move it towards Luka's way. And trying to figure out how to not give it to Jokic, which is kind of unfair because whatever y'all did in the past has nothing to do with him, right? You know, this year, right now, the metrics for the first time in his MVPs,

this is the metrics that they always use. First or second place with the numbers you're putting up. Team success plus your success right MVP So this is hands down hands if you give it to someone else you screw your kids Again for someone else again to do something. That's not traditional right I Mean you know I I get it. You know, he's going to have three and four years. There's ten people with that.

And those ten are... All-timers. All-timers. I mean, but at the end of the day, he still has more stuff to put on his resume. You know, right now, you know, out of the ten, he's going to be the last one, right? Out of the ten? I'm just kidding. Did you see the ten? I know, but... Okay, right now, who is, out of the 10, he's going to be the last one, right? Out of the 10?

I'm just 10. Did you see the 10? I know, but... Okay, right now, who is he going to be in front of? Okay, I'm letting you cut it. There's none of them. I know. There's 10, right?

Yeah. Is that what, three MVPs? People who have three MVPs? Three MVPs in four seasons. In four years. So there's a list. Someone has to be last. Right now, with his resume, he's going to be last, right?

Right. He's the least accomplished. He has to be last. Right now, with his resume, he's going to be last. Right? He's the least accomplished. He's the least accomplished. So, I mean, for now, by the time he's finished, he'll hopefully move up. But right now, that's where he is. So, there's nothing to do about that. You got to give the man his award and let him build a resume.

It's not his fault. Yeah, he's going to move up on the list. How far though? Playing in this he gonna move up on the list Planning this NBA How far up this he's only he's 30 right now There's five more years at least shit five more years and he gonna be in the MVP talk shit The next three at least turn 29 in February. Yeah Come on now. So what more does he need to do? I mean, I'm looking at this I guess before he's 33 34 years old

The numbers he could be like, all right, I'm done playing Yeah, but he also looks like in the next cover is gonna be like these horses This is this is gonna be a stirred. I will give him a Guaranteed for Possibly five really yeah a guaranteed four, possibly five. Really? Yeah. Because this is what's going to happen.

He hasn't had a triple-double in any of these years, right? He's going to get one. The year he does have a triple-double, they're going to give it to him. First big man with a triple-double, you know, they're going to use the... First big man with a triple-double. He's going to have 9.8, right?

He's got a lot of competition coming up in these next three or four years, though. It doesn't matter. First or second place, though, still? If he has a triple-double or they're just going to give it to him no matter what. I mean, I don't see Denver. The two MVPs he got before,

they had the fifth best record and then they had the tenth best record. And he almost got one. You talk about four or five MVPs. That puts them in the conversation with Bill Russell, Will, Kareem, Michael Jordan, LeBron, the other guys that do that. Not his fault.

I'm just saying, like... Yeah, I get it, but you can't blame... No, I'm just... No, I know. No, I'm not saying that that's a bad thing. I'm just saying that... That's it. Where do you think my comments came from?

When I said, you know, two-time MVP, you know, there's a list of that, and at that list, he's last, right? He's the worst. Where do you think my comments came from when I said two-time MVP? There's a list of that, and at that list, he's last. He's the worst. I just used the worst, but last place, the worst, out of the group. Last sounds better than the worst, because these are all- I know. I know.

I know you. I know you, Gil. I said the worst, because I know people will be like, oh my God, he's the worst MVP ever. Then they bring on a whole bunch of MVPs. No, that's not the category. This is another category. Here it is, and he's last on this one. Just like they

like to do us with the, you know, first player to do this on a Wednesday. On ESPN the other day, they actually showed the correct metric where Russell Rushbrook accounted for the highest in all categories for their team. They finally put up there, they put Russell Rushbrook,

Will Chamberlain, and then they put Lucas and Jamal Brown. Oh, they finally put up there they put Russell Westbrook will chairman and then they put Lucas engine on it finally put him up and put was with leader team of points rebound assists most games in a season yes so you'd be gay had never put that I know they begin called they begin called out they be getting called out and finally put it so Westbrook is okay this is in that conversation too huh I say yo could be leading his team in all the categories to yeah so crazy so I ain't rolling though he gonna get four or five Yoke is in that conversation too. Huh? I say Yoke is going to be leading his team in all the categories too. Yeah. Crazy.

I ain't rolling though he's going to get four or five though. I don't think he's going to get four or five. What do you think what happens next year? Let's say next year he actually does average a triple-double in their one or two. But it's other players that's emerging too. But they're not doing that though. I know. That's kind of what we talked about the other day.

What Wimby is about to be doing the next three or four years is going to be unbelievable. But they're not doing that, though. I know. That's kind of what we talked about the other day. What Wimby's about to be doing the next three or four years is going to be unbelievable. Ant-Man is what he got going on. He's young. Luka is going to continue to flirt with a triple-double. You see, that's what I said. He's going to be flirting. Jokic is going to be flirting.

What if there's a year where the motherfucker actually averages 30? I mean, Jokic averages 30. Like, let's say, shit, Murray's out. He got to average 30. And, you know, those numbers look a little different. So, I mean, the thing that helps him is the same thing that helps Luka, the same thing that helped Westbrook. We expect in Westbrook and Luka to have the points and assists. We don't expect the rebound.

And that rebound puts them in another category. With Luka, I mean, with Jokic, the assists puts him in. If he was just averaging a double-double with two assists, we wouldn't even be talking about this shit at all. That's a fact. That's a fact. Nobody gives a fuck about your two assists. And then your 20 and 12 and B. Like, there's a lot of people having a bigger double-double, but the assist, him passing the ball, puts him over everyone. What ends up happening

when he starts adding the offensive part of it, where he's sitting there giving everybody third because it's not like he can't do it. We saw it. Anytime he wants to, he's giving 40. He just makes everybody around him better. He just makes everybody's job easy. All you got to do is get in the lab

and work on your game. Do what you do. Like people are like, Aaron Gordon can't shoot. Who gives a fuck if he makes shots consistently or not? I don't. Cause he and that motherfucking dunker, and he making plays, lob backwards and all that.

Listen, let the mother, let Michael Porter and the mother of the Carwell Pope shoot out. I stay in this area. This is where I'm good at. Y'all guys work on that. I'm gonna work on this. But will it be Joker Fatigue, though? Like how it was Fatigue for MJ and Shaq and Giannis?

Is it gonna be Joker Fatigue for the writers? I can tell you this right now. The next motherfucker out there in big media, they say the dimension, voter fatigue, and they have a vote, they should be removed. There's no such thing as vote. There's no such thing. If a motherfucker's dominant every year-

Then give it to him. He's dominant every year. That's just how it is. Wayne Gretzky every year. Right. Who won the Golden Glove? Basketball is like the only sport that that really happens. Only sport that they try to. We are we tired of voting for the same motherfucker.

Derek Jeter. Derek Jeter. Sure stop. Every year if they're the best at what they do. They're the best at it. They're the MVP. They're the most valuable. If their team is number one

10 years in a row he's averaging 30 10 years in a row 10 MVPs I don't give a month I don't care if someone averaged 14 and then now he won average 25 congratulations most improved your metrics of because your team went from 8th to 2nd don't mean you an MVP, dude. What I'm doing right here is MVP levels every single year. How Giannis gets treated, that's wrong. But we saw this with Giannis this year. Probably had his most efficient season of his career.

He's averaging 30, 12, and 7 assists right now. That's crazy. And nobody cares. That's crazy, dude. But it feels like, oh, well, you got Dame now, so we can't count that. It's just like a weird situation. But Luka has Kyrie.

Kmart, that's crazy. Say that again. 30-12-7. 30-12-7. 30-12-7. Like he's not doing it. A top team in the East, regardless of however we feel about what the Bucs have looked like this season. You say in a perfect world voter fatigue shouldn't

Don't get tired of my greatness dog Like I know like magic and bird and I get I get you're trying to protect the The past I don't get it. It's over. It's over right? It's over if he's if he's four and if he's three and four years four and five years Oh fucking well, there's a new person at the top of the mountain for people to look at right? Nobody remembers the dudes from 1942. Okay, so Joker does get four or five any piece Where do he rank among the sinners all time? Or do you use the eye test and be like he's already he's already mentioned they already got him as a mission where top four or Five they already got a full five. So

Like Bill Russell will curry Shaq. Okay VPs Okay, but there's a check. Okay. I don't have this. Okay, MVP's are Between being a race-hiking Berlin, you're gonna put it all in Same that's but they're gonna take those individual out Team Elijah won he buried in a king dream and the fact that Shaq only have one MVP is but at the end of The day is still long. It's still longevity. It still accounts for but that's only we do that though I'm saying that you a basketball player you think only we do that though. It's NBA. He's buzzing people know what I'm Someone else now being great everyone is like well you're disrespecting The greats from the past.

Like, we have already acknowledged that they're great. Why can't we just say that someone else is also great? They were great during the time. Yeah, because if you go on the same thing, he bustin' ass the same way they was bustin' ass, right? Mm-hmm. He is. He is dominating the way that fuckin' Wilt dominated his era.

He's dominating the way Kareem dominated his era. He's dominating the way Shaq dominated his era. Dominating the way Hakeem dominated. He's doing the exact same thing. Yep. And it went. The MVP is to go with it. We do the hypotheticals.

You take a Joker versus Hakeem, for example. We don't know. I mean, I mean. Every day. Dream's going to eat because he's fat. I hate hypotheticals. Every day. Twice on Sunday. Dream. Dream, I mean, I mean, Dream is going to eat because he's fat. I hate hypotheticals. Every day, twice on Sunday, Dream.

He's cooking them on offense, but Dream is going to get cooked on offense too. No, he ain't. Dream is a defender. He's an all-time defender. All-time defender. Come bring your ass out here to the point lunch. On people who stayed on the block. Come out here.

Come out here and play with me. So blocks and steals mean you're a good defender? In context. You got to keep it in context. No, I'm just because he's leading block because he had blocks and steals. He was a great defender, bro. Okay, I'm just... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

For him, yes. But there are some guys that are not great defenders. Because there's guys that made first team all defense when I played. Nah, for sure. I understand. That's why I said in context. Nothing, dog. That's why I keep it in context.

The can't guard just got them game. No, for sure. I understand. That's why I said, nothing. That's why I keep it in context. The game guard just got them cut. See, people, there was three steals a night because they're in the fucking passing lane. I was third in steals. Just watching the game

and I get what you mean. That alone. I was third in steals. Shit, that's what I was going at. But that's still a little bit part of defense. Being in the right place

at the right time is still part of defense. But that's why people, that's why it's hard when, it's hard when fans argue with the athlete who played. Your information, everything you know

came from non-athletes, people who watch the TV just like you did, right? Y'all watching it, they watching it. Just because they were on the TV don't make them smarter than you. Right. They just got better ways of finding that information but how are you going to argue about me against people i played against i scouted i had a double team i had to

i can tell you we can tell you who's better that's why our list as athletes look very different from yours we don't go by the metrics you go by. Right? Oh, yeah, his percentage. He's shooting 39%. Well, yeah, he got triple team. If they play one-on-one, I'm pretty sure he would average 70% because there was no one stopping him one-on-one. You know what I mean?

But that's how we look at the game. So our defense is like, okay, yeah, Jokic might have all these, but is he better than Shaquille O'Neal? Probably not. Come on. Come on. And just as a reminder, Jokic never had a teammate make an all-star team or all-nba team I don't know now he's down Bob. Listen, but I'm just saying with that Nuggets squad They that's a good squad. That's no different in that

That 2004 Detroit team right? It was a good squad Were they all all-stars and questions only because I was affected what but were they but they were the all-stars like at that all-star lever mmm at the winning help you know some of them you know the winning help some of them they just knew how to play basketball they just knew how to play as a team great basketball so talk a little bit about the MVP now let's talk about the other side so go bear currently the frontrunner to win his fourth defensive player of the year So we showed that Christian Brown dunk earlier

So we're gonna do a little side-by-side. So this is the Like there's your brown going right at the rim go bear and then this is what happened when Wimby was there. I'm ducking. I'm ducking. Maybe duck and smoke with Wimby down there. I mean, there was a video on Twitter of all the time dudes, you know, the Grizzlies game. The three-on-one game. Yeah. So, Gobert leading the league in individual defensive rating at 104.3. Wimby right behind him at 106.

That even means. 104.3. What is even? What even is that number? Yeah, what is that going that number? Square metrics. These metrics, man. Lucky for me. I hate some of these metrics that have been created.

But we watched that game last night. Kane, you're our resident expert on playing defense. When you look at Gobert in a situation like that, do you see a defensive player of the year, if he can't even really do anything with Joker? No, I'd say a win-beak should get it either way. But no, I mean, he baptizing Rudy every time he's seen. So this is nothing new to me.

Just because he block a few shots, and and you gotta be on the ball consistently. Mm-hmm Somebody going at your rack every play Then we'll see what you are defensively man like this Just what it is for me like all that help size shit and like they got other guys guarding him last night Nicola last night Yeah, he didn't even the best defensive putting him He wouldn't garden, but Nas Reed slow-mo Oh, you got a cow Anderson guard Anderson doc lights. What are we talking? I got three fouls in ten seconds last night How tall is carry cows or what? Like six nine is he's that's all yeah, he's talking buddy. Oh, it shouldn't be out there

But but think about the change you this man a defense player, you're on your team. This man got trophies that has him as the best defensive player, and he's number one. And you're putting Kyle Anderson, you're putting everybody but that guy. You're talking about we want him off the help side. No, neither one of those are working. Because as soon as he comes to help, Nikola is going to pass to this fucking man.

So neither one of those are working. So therefore, you put him on him, he baptizing him. Come here you little baby, you seven foot two baby, come here. Let me burp you. He burping the shit out of me every time he see it. Come here. Come here. And that's true for Junker against most dudes in the league, but if you tell me-

There's not a lot of centers out there though. No fives that has three defensive player of the year. That's my point of you talking about a three time most dudes in the league. But if you tell me. There's not a lot of centers out there, though. No fives that has three defensive players a year. That's my point. You're talking about a three-time defensive player of the year. Three-time defensive player of the year that's supposed to be this guy. You're not. Like, if I see that on paper, I'm thinking, okay, this should be the one guy. There's a reason that he hasn't played in the fourth quarter playoff sometime.

Because he's a liability at times. Which is crazy. He's a liability. On both ends of the court. And now you got to go up against that man When this window when the shit on the line they need you. Mm-hmm Like last night miss something and they both teams play like it. Mm-hmm, but I got better than your guy Significantly better your defensive player to your and I'm an MVP, so I'm finna show you. What's wild is, like, the Timberwolves, I felt like

we're treating this like a high-level playoff game, and the Nuggets kind of fourth quarter did, but for most of the game, it's like, it's just a regular Wednesday. It was a good game all the way. But when it came time for winning time... Yeah, we know the ball. Yeah.

Why do the Senators get defensive player of the year consideration all the time and not, like like on-ball defenders like wing play because they don't There's no step or what here's the mentor on-ball defenders do is steel blocks defensive rebounds team defense efficiency opponent field goal percentage with players as the closest defender Right, which means if someone's going to the basket with players as the closest defender. Right? Which means if someone's going to the basket, the center or the power force automatically going to get that credit.

Right? Because they're the closest. And then plus minus with on-off numbers. So that's their rating. That's why Wimby should be the runaway. They last in defense as a whole, but they first in defense when he on the court. But the problem is Rudy's team is a great defensive team. Because Anthony Edwards is a great defensive team.

So now it looks like he's a better defender from the metrics, this metrics right here. Because as a team, they're great, so they're going to hold opponents. His rating is going to be a little bit lower versus win B's as an individual They got Anthony Edwards who's probably the best two-way player in the league right now Mike Conley is always been a on Nas Reed Nas Reed. That's I said, it's Then you got Kyle Anderson out there and this is solid defensively Like I always say if you take win B put him on the wolves you take go bear put them on the first Which team is which team is better?

Wait, what do you want the wolves you take? Even if we take away his offense right we give him Rudy Goldberg's offense By far when be steel do the wolves get worse defensively hell no so that's i mean these are easy conversations to have yeah because you don't need to sub them out motherfucking play he can guard the guards right because it's not like whatever move you got seven four and long getting to the get fuck it i ain't gotta turn around you you back here somewhere motherfucker And that's how it would be

This motherfucker octopus Between my legs and everything done ship this all that There you go, let's go on the glass you make that argument It's like how can you turn that go bear is deserving of his fourth defensive player of the year? A four is good. Because of the Spurs sucking this season. Like, look at that roster. And to your point, Norris, look at what that team looks like when Wimby doesn't play. He didn't play against the Thunder last night.

Have you noticed every ex-player that have been asked this question, every player has said Wimby. Every single one. But they think y'all are haters. Right. They ain't hating. What we see is that we're watching the game. We're not watching the stats. There has to be a balance of metrics and eye tests.

Like, there has to be. They're not using that eye test, Alexi. What year is this for Rudy eight nine I mean he's a young he's a old I mean he's been in the league since 2013 okay imagine just imagine when we be 11 years Jesus man y'all better stop it. I can't imagine. Yo, y'all better stop it. This is your one It's the worst he gonna look this is the worst is he's gonna look right now And and I think that's what they're saying. Well, you know, he has I hate that too

Well, he has next year. This is only his rookie. You don't penalize him not at all because he's dominating don't penalize him But as y'all know that whole next year shit there may not be a next year. This is only his rookie year. Don't penalize him. Not at all, because he's dominating. Don't penalize him. But as y'all know, that whole next year shit, there may not be a next year. It sounds great. It sounds good to look in that crystal ball. Yeah, like you've got to give people their flowers immediately. Like, I'm tired of that. That's what I said. I wish media ranking came from where we get to rank them.

So we can use the same shit against them, same terminology, same word, and you know, voter fatigue, I'm tired of voting for this motherfucker, man. And then vote somebody else, and now he looking at this person like, yo, you. And I'm tired of reading your articles. I'm tired of reading your articles.

You gotta provide a reason for your article. Okay, dog, we get it. You don't like LeBron. Okay, okay. You're a great writer. We need somebody. Alright, alright, it. You don't like LeBron. Okay, okay. You're a great writer. We need somebody... Alright, alright, Charles. You don't like Kevin Durbin. We get it. We ain't gonna even listen to you no more, man. Right? You'll be angry, too.

Yeah. Yeah, it ain't even... It wouldn't be, man. Hands down. Not even close. It's gonna be scary, man. This is how we knew when be I'm gonna tell you to to Anthony Edward said Remember this before Rudy got me before Rudy got there. I Ain't scared of him. I'm trying to jump on his top, right? Wimby at 16 who did he get famous off of? Busting whose ass? Rudy's, right?

Yep. Yeah. 16-year-old. Motherfucker Anthony Edwards quote about having to guard Rudy is funny as shit, too. Ask somebody out the garden, they say, shit, don't ask me shit. Look, the hardest motherfucker shit. Don't ask me shit.

Go ask Nas and Rudy. Go ask them. They got to guard me shit. Looking hard as a motherfucker shit. Don't ask me shit. Go ask Nas and Rudy. Go ask them. They got to guard them shit. So let's talk about some other Wolves news. Karl-Anthony Towns was cleared for full contact 5-on-5 activities as he progressed towards return to the court after having meniscus surgery on his left knee four weeks ago. Cat is expected to make his return later this week for at least one of the Wolves' final two games of the season. Hasn't played since March 4th. Wolves are 12-6 since he's been sidelined.

Before the injury, he was averaging 22 points, 8 rebounds, shooting 50 from the field, 42% from three. I know your general opinion of big men with knee injuries trying to come back for the postseason, but Cat coming back, good idea or bad idea? If he's healthy. I mean, if he's healthy, I mean, it's, good idea or bad idea? If he's healthy. I mean, if he's healthy, I mean, it's a good idea. I mean, it's crazy that they somehow think that you can come in two games before playoffs and then think these guys are going to be effective in playoffs.

I'm sorry. I don't know what scouting report. I mean, unless you're playing against someone who's just stupid as a coach. If he's coming back, I'm going to put him in every pick and roll. Right? Every iso. We do iso now. Every pick and roll. Every iso.

We're going to see how that knee holds up for game sevens. Right? Every chance we're going to wear down his knee. Wouldn't you? Right? Just like when somebody come back from a wrist injury. What's the first thing they do?

I got to test that. Just randomly just hitting it all game. Shit, fourth quarter, you'd be sitting there like, ah, damn this motherfucker hurt for some reason. They done tapped it 300 times. And that's just the nature of the playoffs. You're trying to win by any means. So the fact that you're just putting these guys in right now,

ah, they're going to get battle tested quick. And it's not like the Wolves have the luxury with this Western Conference just as tough as it is. You're looking at a first round that's either Suns, Lakers, Warriors, potentially Kings. It's not an easy cakewalk through that first round. But they do have a five, six day break in between the last game of the season before the postseason started. No matter.

I'm just... He doesn't have... He's been on break. Let me ask you this. And any way he can go get two new lungs? Two new... Conditions.

Let me ask you this. Yeah, because he already tried to struggle with his conditions before. What? Because the only way you can get in that kind of shape is you got to go out

there and play games. How many games does it take you to get back into... Big man, but I think what Joel Embiid did was idea if you're gonna come back, right? You see six six seven eight game whatever it was. I think that's That's and doing stuff in between a lot of bottom feeder game don't lean it up to it one or two games one game

But I mean think about like to Joel Embiid. This is what game game four? Yeah, he's played, I believe, four games since being... And he still look exhausted, right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, game four, that's game three in the playoffs. Yeah, then... We can't afford you to put you 22 minutes in the playoffs? Then he might not be effective, so therefore you can't play him. Yep.

Right? Now you got real decisions to make. Okay, he over there, but damn, he not giving us nothing. He look bad defensively. Should we protect his knee? Is he healthy? Is he not? All these.

So now you're in the coaches meeting with all these fucking decisions to make and these questions. And now the GM coming in, motherfucker, like, hey, what the fuck are we going to do now? Man, why we losing? He said he was ready. He said it. Like, so, hey.

They can put him on a minute restriction though and then That's where she going to playoffs yeah, how does that do with the team's chemistry now? That's bad You need okay now you got a Try to say well thanks for the four you want to save his men for the four didn't get stiff players minutes in the first I yeah, it's this chest thing that you can't Try to save his minutes for the four quarter. You want to save his minutes for the four quarter. Then he gets stiff. He plays minutes in the first half. Yeah. It's this chess thing that you can't. And the coach got to know his rotations, the timing of them.

Many restrictions is it doesn't make sense. Eight, nine guys in the playoffs. It doesn't make sense in the sense of this. What am I missing when you're not out there? Right? Let's say you 10 for 10. Now, I got to sit you for the next 20 minutes. That's stupid on my part.

This might have been that night you had 50, 60, 70, right? Time's sake. You know, but for time's sake, I'm sitting here not even watching the game. Fuck the game, right? Yeah.

You could be barbecuing this, man. I'm sitting here. Five minutes. Time up. Go. You out there looking at me. Hold on. They got a plane. I'm minutes time up go Train them so you trying to coach the game to try to come tap you on your shoulder Need late, yeah, but they can't have him sitting though They panning whatever they panning. Yeah, that's super max starts makes so if he if he say he ready But still you got it. You gotta give him a chance

even if you know better even if you know he gonna be under restriction you got a plane place on that but He realized he's a shooter. Yeah Like that's what he's out there for right? but What he's gonna start you guys right? He's gonna shoot more. What he's out there for? He's gonna start shooting more threes. Space the floor. Space the floor.

Yeah. He shoots more threes. You can take Rudy out and put him in, him and Nas, because that's what they need to do sometimes. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like it's that old idea of as long as you're out there, you're a threat. Yeah. Also a liability.

Works both ways. It works both ways, Timmy. You gotta play there, you're a threat. Yeah. Yeah. Also a liability. Yeah. Works both ways. It works both ways. You got to play D. That's a fact. And against those teams that they're going to be playing against, you definitely got to play defense. Phoenix. Like, I mean. Clipper.

Right now, I know. This is funny. I know right now, everyone is watching every game. Because I'm going to tell you this shit right now. Because if they got to play Phoenix, and he had the four. Lunchmeat. I know who planned to fold that game. I'm about to say.

The ranch man. What? Easy money sniper. Come here, young fella. Let me give you a double cross. Right. Let me see if this meniscus is right. Yep.

What I'm trying to tell you, dog. He ain't going to be able to hide nowhere. I'm just picking over D-Book. Hey, sweet. Oh, yeah. Oh, come on. Let's do this. We already see all the moves, right?

They're going to be there with the sham guy, the smitty. Double package. So when you look at this Wolves squad. They can say, yack, yack. Go in. Let's see if the doctor. Let's see if you and the doctor got the glass. When you look at this Wolves squad, what they've been able to do without Cat.

They've been 12-6 since he's been sidelined. Does Cat give the Wolves a better chance of beating the team like the Nuggets in a seven-game series? No. If he game series? No If he's healthy no dude, Nicola cooking him everybody Rudy Nas Cal Anderson No, wait wait wait, you don't move the needle Remember remember say that's a different year out of out of out of Denver's own mouth That was last year that was they said they got but wolves got better this year Yeah, and so did significant over Denver and you say this Denver squad is about this

I mean, but I mean all fully healthy. I mean that could be that could be a good playoffs I think it gives them a better chance. I don't mean that Joker ain't gonna smack him, but that He gonna smack your average 38 against these motherfuckers. He's going to average everybody. AD, everybody. In the playoffs, he's going to average 38, 39. But does Cat out there give the Wolves at least some more offense? He gives them more offense.

I think Kyle Anderson, as great as he plays as a team guy, he's a liability offensively, right? Cause he can't shoot the ball for shit like that. Did you see that knuckle ball he had from the corner? The corner, the one late. Did you see that? It took him forever to get that motherfucker. That shit was... Who put the pause button on the tee?

God damn. I was spinning sideways. What? I hate it. I was spinning sideways. That's what I said. I was like, what? Motherfucker bowled? He out there bowling. Strike.

I could give him a chance. Why is the ball spinning that way? I've never seen a ball spin this way. Like, who the fuck shot that? If he shoots the ball we should automatically allowed to just go interfere with the ball and try to dunk it But yo, yo, yo, come on. That's not a shot Let's keep this thing moving the Mavs are one of the hottest teams in the league

After missing the playoffs last season the Luke and Kyrie duo is clicking at the right time. So they gave the Heat that work in Miami Wednesday. Luke followed up his triple-double against the Hornets Tuesday, dropping 29 points, 9 rebounds, and 9 dimes in the game. And Kyrie had 25 points and 4 dimes, going 10 for 15 from the field. Doing his thing. It was the Mavs' 10 for 15 from the field. So sus. Doing his thing. It was the Mavs' 50th win of the season. And they're 16-2 in their last 18 games.

That helps you out so much. A guy that can just run. Look at his great stats. Come get this work. Yeah, he's a great rim protector. Like I said, perfect defense and Perfect defense and still made on him. Mavs second 50 win season in the last three seasons. Look who got a garter.

He's so big, he got to have this. Damn, I'm going to buy you one. And look, if you're the Dallas Mavericks late in the game. And come get this work, K-Love. Hate it had to be you. K-Love had a good game too. So Mavs 50th winner. I want to know how tall he actually is who Luca nobody knows

Yeah, you've been saying six Six ten and a half whenever you watch him like Mary six No, whatever you small looking in gruesome started doing the show to see Give me started show you six seven six seven He was ever six seven We was in Dallas went to a Mavericks game That was the first time I'd seen him in real life and I was like I had no idea he was ever 6'7". I don't think he was ever 6'7". I remember the first time when we was in Dallas, we went to a Mavericks game. That was the first time I'd seen him in real life. And I was like, I had no idea he was that tall.

He was tall, right? I see people say how tall he is, but just seeing it in person, I was like, oh, yeah, he's big as fuck. People were like, 6'7". I'm like, come on. Y'all know what 6'7 look like in the NBA? Shit, y'all think Curry's 6'1", when he's all of six-four right that's six-four so imagine what these other dudes and you're talking about with shoes on right Gil because that's how they play I'm just making sure definitely play with shoes on never seen him nobody hooked barefoot but like

people got like he's 6'7 no way play 6' 6'7". They not even on the same planet in height. Yeah, I don't know, though. Like, when you see him next to, like, Power 4s and shit. He's 6'8". Yeah, that's what I'm... With his shoes. Yeah, so he's 6'8". 6'8 with no shoes on.

Yeah, he's 6'8 with no shoes. 6'10", then. You got two... You got... You got some platforms in there. Nah, he's tall as shit. Those are two inches. Look at his own shoe, though. No, no, what you got. What you got on his shoe? Yeah. Yeah's tall shit. I was a two inches So you got right look at his own shoot on his number what you got what you got on the suit

Yeah, yeah the shoes I got measured on it at the combine Boosters your height a little bit. I got him over like six and left never like come on. I'll take them off Go to Afro. There's tricks in the trade to get a couple more extra inches. No ditty. It was the Mavs' 50th win of the season. Their 16-2 in their last 18 games. Had the best defensive rating in the league during that time frame.

For all the haters that said that this Mavs squad with Luka and Kyrie can't play no defense. So the Mavs are now locked into either the fourth or fifth seed. Will face the Clippers in the first round. But before the game, we're talking about the MVP conversation. Mavs players and staff, excluding Luka, wore Pravi MVP shirts, which translates to the real MVP. Oh, wow. As you see, Luka did not have one on. He let all of them do his bidding for him.

Wow. Beautiful. Yep. And after the game, Kyrie broke down why he thinks Luka is the real MVP. We all knew how special this year was going to be. And I say we just in that locker room organization. We knew how special this year was going to be just based on our practices, what Luka was doing, showcasing that all the time, really being more vocal, challenging his teammates, challenging me,

and doing it in his own way. And I think that's a true sign of MVP, of coming into a season and really initiating himself into that leadership role and doing it on both ends of the floor. His stats speak for themselves. He's first in a lot of different categories. He's held the team up when I wasn't able to be in the lineup and I was injured. So there are a lot of factors that attribute to his MVP case.

And me as a brother of his, I have the utmost love and support to give him during this time because I want to see him win MVP. I should also mention with the Mavs' 50th win, Kyrie gets a $1 million bonus. Yay, Kyrie. Shout out, Kyrie, for getting the bread. But thoughts on Kyrie's comments about Luka's growth and him deserving the MVP? I think he said all the right things. What else are you supposed to say about your teammate

who's in the MVP conversation? Say the wrong thing, they grant wins. You get up out of there. Yeah. He made Luka work hard in practice. He's supposed to advocate. He's going to be like, I want someone else to win MVP. Obviously, you're supposed to advocate for your teammate,

but he's absolutely right. I mean, Luka carried that team when Kyrie was out. I definitely get, you know, acknowledged for that, but, you know, you got SGA and... Joker doing what they're doing. But Kyrie also said Luka's stats speak for themselves, so do you guys agree with that? Yeah, he's a great player.

Yeah, other players' stats speak for themselves, too. Luka kind of knows just what the first, second, and third place wins to go with it. Like... Yeah, his stats do speak for themselves, too. Look how nauseous. With the first, second, and third place wins to go with it. Like, yeah, his stats do speak for themselves, but it's the other category's stats that's crazy, too. With the wins to go with it. And when Luka was out, Kyrie held it down.

Right, vice versa. So it's like you're still afloat because... Because you got a Kyrie. You got another guy. You take SGA out, you take Joker out, they crashing and burning. Oh, they're in the basement. Man, I'm about to say.

Just look at Philly. Yeah. Look at Philly. You take MB, the MVP candidate out of the team, and now they fighting for their playoff lives. Yeah, they was, what, two and three when they left. They were three when he got hurt. They were three.

Now seven, yeah. So, Gil, we talk about this a lot. What the criteria for the MVP is supposed to be, it seems like it's constantly shifting and changing. Should a fifth seed be in the MVP discussion, and how much does individual performance outweigh team success? As a player, it's harder when your team is bad, right? Because, like, when people talk about empty stats, y'all whole game plan is to stop me, right?

Your whole game plan is to stop me the double team the triple teams floating over there so it's it's harder for me to put up the numbers it's easier for y'all because we can't double you right you know when you're when you're talking about kevin doran all that we can't double you we can't sit there and throw a whole double team at you if your team is good right we got to play you straight up while i come down and you get to you know zone me up double-team me this and this so you know some of these guys you have to take in especially if it's Like what Russell did what cold did what Lucas doing? Right SGA when you're talking about when when MB was doing sometimes the individual

himself is The most valuable player. You can't really quantify his team success. Because he has to run his engine 1,000 miles an hour just to compete with everybody else. He has to. The MVP, like Jokic, for the most part, let's just be honest, it looked like he was dead half the season. He was there. Just moseying along. most part, let's just be honest, it looked like he was dead half the season. We wasn't even really... He was there. Mosin alone. He ain't driving his car

as fast because he don't have to. He has a team around him. Same thing with Tatum. Their team is so good that they can take plays off. The guy who's sitting in 5, 6, 7, he can't take no plays off. You get subbed out, you take

some plays off, you're down 10, 15 points. They're not fifth because of that. No, they're fifth because they weren't playing no defense earlier in the year. It ain't because he wasn't driving the engine. They're fifth because he couldn't guard nobody. So for most cases, you're right, but for Luka's case specifically, that ain't the case. It's other This other cast is driving SGA is driving. No, no, but that no no no not him He's driving it like I want to I want to say they need to throw in this they need to throw in another Category in this category on scoring on doubles That that that that has to like you guys have this clutch shit, that's cool. What's happening?

scoring on doubles has to be equated inside the most valuable player because it it'll point out who's actually been the focal point of something right you know if you're talking about all right luca's averaging 33.9 but he only he's only scoring four points on a double team versus like let's say sga you know he's only scoring four points on a double team versus, like, let's say SGA, you know, he's averaging 30, but 22 of his points is on a double team. His value is higher, right? Yeah, if he was getting single-handedly, you know, playing single matchups, he would be averaging 40 with that rating, right?

So he's getting double more still averaging those amount of points. But you have to throw in another factor versus just your stature self because some people like when we was guarding Steve Nash, I'm like, why are we doubling? I'm personally because he was busting my ass. So I'm you know Where's the double right? We can't well forget everybody good on this team He know how to find like when Kobe had the 30 something Like we throwing everybody the bench squad yo sub sub sweet now you seen teams that has six players out there getting technicals You you you you you go? Tech six like oh shit. All right, come on back Right and he averaging 30 some with that team beingT, that lets you know how fucking great he was.

So they have to throw in another category just to... To, like, what, be like an equalizer kind of? It has to be, like, some metrics to show that some of these guys, their numbers are down because they are being double-teamed. Like, you know, there's more emphasis on this guy versus this guy. Yeah, well, it takes for people to watch basketball too. So it makes them watch basketball Yeah, you gotta watch basketball. I don't watch and they don't tell no I don't want to study it like you got a really got a study

There's so many machines out here doing everything and all they're doing is just getting the information and just getting numbers spit out They can shoot. Yeah, absolutely. This'll master So did this so master? Lexi how much an individual performance outweighed team success Or I don't know. I mean it's hard. I Mean I always I mean we it's the same issue every year with MVP. I mean it happened in the w-2 like you have a player with incredible stats on the best team and you have someone who's on a really good overall team with incredible stats and you have someone who has

nearly a triple-double, not on the best team, their top three though, but without her, the team is completely different. So I think it just depends. I think individual stats definitely are important. But your team can't be horrible. But I don't know, it's hard. Especially with everyone playing at such a high level now. Because I feel like maybe in the past, you had your 30-point scores, like one or two, kind of scoring out their minds and rebounding and assisting.

But now it's like you've got, what, eight, seven, eight people, 25 up, like on a light day. So it's making it a lot harder to make these decisions, I think. But like, this is what I, I'd like an argument that needs to start happening. When you're trying to figure out who's the best between certain players, right, you take away rings, right? Take away the ring. The ring has nothing to do with who was a better player, right? You take away rings, right? Take away the ring. The ring has nothing to do with

who was a better player, right? Who had a better team? Obviously, the guy who has the ring. Who was a better player? Now, if it's close, you add the rings to put them over the top. You can't use the rings.

Like, this dude got 6,000 points, but he got eight rings, and you're saying he's better than a dude with 32,000 points. Fuck no, dog. That's not how that works. Like that Bill Russell argument. Yeah, you can't. It's like, I remember someone was asking me, it was Charles Barkley versus, it was Charles Barkley and Dirt.

Right? It was like, who was a better player? And I said, all right, we take away Dirt's championship. All right. And then, okay, so Dirt has like, okay, 14 All-Stars, 12 All-NBA teams. Barkley's what, 10, right? You got rebound and champ. You got this, this this this this I said

Dirt has him he's edged him and then I don't even need to ring to say he's a better player. I Don't even need to ring because his stats as an individual the accomplishments is a little bit higher already, right? So I don't even need to ring now. So if you take Karl Malone and Charles Barkley. I'm a Barkley. I got one of them got a ring. So I'm a Barkley guy. I mean, Karl Malone though is tough, but I like Barkley. But you got to put in the factor that he played with fucking John Stockton his whole career. I said Barkley. You said Barkley. I thought you said Karl Malone. I'm a Barkley guy. I thought you said you were a Carl Malone guy. Yeah. Barkley can hold his own.

Barkley can hold his own. Two-time MVP, 14-time All-Star, four-time All-Defensive player. See, I'm going to go with 25-10. I'm going to go with Carl. I'm not. I watched them head-to-head matches back in the early 90s. You got ones that's 11 time All-Star, 11 time All-NBA, got an MVP. Look at their numbers when they played in the finals. What was Chuck doing in the finals and then the playoff?

Chuck was 40, 20, 20, and 20, all type of crazy stuff. One year? Nah, he was in the playoff multiple years. That was just the one time in the finals when he did. I don't recall none of that against MJ in the finals. A 20-20, 30-20 game, I don't recall none of that. Yeah, but I mean, it's longevity, not just the one series. You know what I mean?

I had this argument with my trainer all the time. He liked Karl Malone better. I think they're both great, obviously, but I like Chuck. Like someone like Carmelo and Dominique Wilkins, right? Like guys who got a whole bunch of numbers and from there if we say they're even whoever has the ring

that's who you give it to. That's how I do it. We're asking about individuals. So put all their stats together, take the rings off, take the thing that has to do with team success off and Then the team might rear a basketball player basketball player Chuck is oh, I mean career Individual basketball player

Just to break all this is career you talking more peak you saying more peak or just no just like their career who had a better career as a basketball player i think yeah yeah because you just put dominique and mellow in the same like it's a no no no but because you know like 37 000 points and a bunch of all-stars all mvps like and then you say who had the better career but who who was the better player? Fucking hell, it's not even... They're not even on the same planet. You know what I mean?

That's what I said. It's not on the same planet. But when people say, who had a better career? What's in that cup today, Gilbert? Don't drink the moonshine. Much of the Mavs talk has rightfully been centered around Luka and the MVP level season he's having. We got to give Kyrie some love, too.

He's been balling as well. Mavs are 24-7 since Kyrie returned from a thumb sprain on February 5th. Played in every game since. In those 31 games, he's averaging 26 points, 5 assists, 5 rebounds. Shooting 52% from the field, 41% from three. Close to 92% from the free throw line. How many games did he miss with his thumb? Let me pull it up.

I can give you the Mavs record without Kyrie this season. I just want to know how many games he missed with his thumb. You said he was. But since coming back. So he missed a few games. Let me pull it up, can you? Damn, y'all be. I just want to know because y'all be throwing these fucking numbers out here at me.

I just want to know. Did he miss 12 games? Was it four was it six? I believe But since coming back just since coming back he misses In this back half of the season, 50-40-90 guy. He's been balling. I know you're a Kyrie guy.

You know I'm a Kyrie guy. I'm doing this for you. But I just want you to say since he's been out, I'm like, how long was he out? So he also had a season-high 48 points in overtime, went on the Rockets this past Sunday. They played him a week prior, before that game. He made a doker call Kyrie the best one-on-one player he's ever seen, coached, or been around. So you guys played against some of the greatest players in NBA history.

Do you agree with Adoka saying Kyrie is the best one-on-one player ever? He's one of them. I can't say he's the best. He's one of them, but I'm not going to say he's the best. Michael Jordan played in this league. Guys like Kevin Garnett, who's a one-on-one king in this league. Like, Melo, Kevin Durant. Like, he's one of them, though.

He's one of them. He's in that conversation. He's the one. It's like, Kobe played in this league. Like, he's one of them, though. Tracy McGrady. Tracy McGrady played in this league. Like, the dudes I just named are all one-on-one masters.

Like, so... But can I read one of them, though? Can you? I agree with Norris. Yeah. One of them. He's on the list. He's on the list, but... But... The... So who was the best one-on-one player that you played against during your career? Played against? I played against...

Or with? Everybody he just fucking named. Yeah. I played with or with Everybody just fucking named Yeah I played with or against Mike Jordan, Colby, Kevin Garnett Tracy McGrady Allen Iverson I played against or with So pick your poison baby

I played on a team with Mello For a lot of years So I would Gil Bernerina's out Gil Gil This is your show You played the bill

So I'm the only person Actually The only person out there Actually playing one One full flat one full flat. One full flat. Nah, but same. I mean, I played in the same era, so, you know,

mellow on the one-on-one. But back then, you got put on the eye, and I'm like, yo, and they're going to run the same play the whole time. Until they sub you out. Yep. Swish the match up. So what's it like being on that side of it? I've been on the island with Kyrie and with Steph and all of them, one-on-one, no help.

I mean, it depends how the game's going. If they got it going, you feel helpless. Because you know no matter how good the defense you play, they're going to make the shot. But there's some guys that you have a chance with, and then there's other guys you have no chance with. The taller players, you have a chance with, and then there's other guys you have no chance with. The taller players, you have no chance. Like the McGrady's, like Jordan, like Kevin Garnett. Like those dudes, because even if you play good defense, they're going to shoot over you.

Kyrie gets you off balance. He can shoot over most people, but at least you have a little bit of a chance to contest. Taller players, they don't see the contest. Like Kevin Durant don't see you. It's just a matter of if he's going to make it or miss it. Melo don't really see you, they don't see the contest. Like Kevin Durant don't see you. It's just a matter if he gonna make it or miss it. Melo don't really see you. Kobe don't see you.

Kobe do not see you. I remember I switched out on Melo once, dog. And he hit me with an elbow. I said, ouch, bitch, that hurt. Hey, man. I'm done.

I'm not switching on this dude no more, dawg. His first reaction, boom. We're going to get you. Ow! Shit, bitch, that hurt. I played kind of when you got a strip, game point, one on one. You get physical.

You ripped him? For no reason, dawg. For no reason. For no reason, dawg. Yes. How did you feel after that moment? I mean, I was a defender, so I was taking on the challenge, but man, one-on-one, he tried, five, four, three, two, one, I stripped him,

game point, I was like, okay, but as a defender, like I said, I knew he wasn't going to just shoot over me, so I had confidence that I could contest, but like, taller players, like, Kobe, like I said, man, Kobe don't see nothing. Melo don't see nobody. Nobody. Kevin Durant don't see you out there. If there was a one-on-one contest, like, depending on dribbles, depending on spots. Mike Jordan don't see nobody.

Anything from the free throw line, mid, post, I'm giving that to Melo. Him and Kevin. Him and Kevin Garnett. No, him and Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant. But Melo going to beat you, I'm giving that to Mello. Him and Kevin. Him and Kevin Garnett. No, him and Kevin Durant. Durant. But Mello going to beat you. He going to physically just... Yeah, he going to...

He going to rough you up. Before the catch. Before the catch. He going to bop, bop, bop. He going to get you sometimes getting to his spot, right? When you catch it, he going to... Uh-huh, yeah. Yeah, you better get ready.

That's what I'm saying. By the time he get ready to shoot, he's like, just going, yeah, you better get ready. That's what I said. By the time he get ready to shoot, he's like, shoot the ball, dog. Like, I don't even want to get hit no more. He beating you up while he on offense. He a bully for sure. The free throw line shit is, listen, dog. Him lined up on the free throw line. Somebody, we shooting. Oh, get Uh-huh. Oh get ready dog

He's destroying people. Oh that shit is a may I'd like dude Your lane violation there that he on your phone Chauncey on the line. They go. Why are you going? Are you gonna issue 90? Yeah, why you why you get lame violation the chance on the line? Girl boys online. Why are you get lane violation the chance on the line? Girl boy is online. Why are you going? You ain't missing you just want to hit it nigga just for no reason Like dude, no, but he yeah, so we playing him like he's rookie You're like did nobody guard him most when I was with the next to this rookie. I had to guard him. Mm-hmm All right, cuz he's a thousand. Yeah, I know what I'm watching. This young boy shit

I'm getting into him first. I, all right, now you want to know, I'm going to hit you before you hit me because I see what you're doing. Yeah, yeah. All right, uh-uh. Bitch,

yeah, he hell, that ball, listen, man. So I'm going with, yeah, that,

he's one. KD and Mello. Okay. He Mello. I think KD and Mello. But you put Kyrie, you mentioned him amongst O'Teara. Yeah,

Black North said like, that height difference is, makes, a lot. Yeah, Mello said, like, that height difference makes... A lot. Yeah. Mellow, KD, Cole, Mack. For sure. Yeah.

No, Tracy was hell. Like, this is what people don't understand. Tracy McGrady was hell at that height. Oh, no, not for... Yeah. I can understand. We had a home-and-home. Back then, the way people scoring the ball now is not... Had a home-and-home with Orlando. Motherfucker the ball now is not but had a home-and-home with Orlando most of the score like 75 in two games so that was that's like that's like just so y'all know that's like 90 today the inflation I'm trying to sit on

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So Tuesday, the Clippers didn't have Harden or Kawhi, but they got some vintage Westbrook to carry them to the win. So Westbrook dropped 16 points, 15 rebounds, 15 assists for a 199th career triple-double. Paul George led all scorers in the game with 23.7 rebounds of five times, five dimes, excuse me. Clippers were up 37-10 after the first quarter took a 33 point lead into the break Suns cut the deficit to seven in the fourth move

that's nice but still suffered an embarrassing loss at their crib you see Russ out there looking good yeah they're coming back from the French. The shows say they want to see him do it still. He said it? No. No, it wasn't him. Who said it? Who said it? The cast.

Oh. So after the game. Rashad. Rashad watching the show. He will be there Sunday at Gilderina Live to respond. So after the game, Westbrook told ESPN, ain't nobody better than me coming off the bench in this league. He started that game, but he has moved to a bench role. I'm just, you know, giving context

and clarifications. Has moved to a bench role this season. Was man enough after that Harden trade to do that. Do you agree with Westbrook saying nobody is better than him coming off the bench in the NBA right now? I mean, how many former MVPs coming off the bench? Man.

Talk to him. Talk to him. Talk to him. Of course. He better than some starters in this league. He ain't a bench player. He's starting on every other team. Except the team that he owns.

And the one that's across on yep and one else across town the stupid son bitch that's gonna come off the bench last year so that's yeah that team is having some issues Kenya yeah this motherfucker man MVP should should have more than one don't give me a scum if they're going by these metrics right yeah you know he few four or five years. You know when he had 22, 11, and 11, he didn't even make the All-Star game? I think there was two triple-double seasons he didn't actually make the All-Star game. I think one he got voted in.

I know when he was in Washington, he didn't make that All-Star game. 22, 11, and 11. What years has that been done 50 years before that? See,'t get he didn't make that all-star game for 22 11 11 What years has that done this years before that see Washington? He did not make it and I think the way they like just spun or you didn't get such a negative thing and then the way that they're doing the complete opposite for Luca Joker right now like taking the obvious bias aside as I said I said, Luka's rebound, like they, it's like they, they padded stats. He was stealing rebounds.

On a hustle play. He was getting them. There's no such thing as stealing rebounds. Go get it. I've been on a team where motherfuckers steal rebounds. But go get it.

That wasn't stealing rebounds. Go get it. He was doing that. Trust me. He stole my rebounds. Even if he did, one or two, okay. He still got eight other ones. No, no, no, look at this. If he played, if he did one or two, okay, he's got eight other ones now

I know look at this if he played if he played with if he played on Bucks right now He's gonna have a triple-double The reason is their big man's don't rebound so you their defy men don't rebound he blocks out right same thing Adams did right. brooke lopez brooke lopez box out so that leaves someone to go get it and he says all right you're gonna block out i'm gonna go get the rebound once i get the rebound it's faster that was jk when jk got the ball it was the fast break was easier and that's all that is from the guard position, right? So you made a hustle you made a hustle play

Patent the stats. What is assist? What is someone seeking assist as that pants? That's someone trying to score 56 that that's not patents That's like we hear patent stats on the the one thing that involves everybody effort effort So you you let the world think that this man Pat's that's on effort plays They made it a bad thing. He plays too hard. And then he started this game 16-15-15. Yeah.

And beat the shit out of him. You literally have a triple-double sitting on the bench pretending that he can't do it. He starts 16- 15, and 15. That's what you have coming off the bench. Yeah, they're damn near at halftime. I'd rather people just keep it real. Just say you don't like his style of play. Just say you don't like him.

Just say you don't like him. What's his style of play? I don't necessarily like his style of play, but I can respect what he's doing, and I love that he plays hard. But, like, as far as how he plays, I'm always like... It has nothing to do with basketball. It has nothing to do with basketball. But if I was voting on something,

I would take that whole bias out and be like, what does he contribute? It has nothing to do with basketball. I've known Russ for a long time since his UCLA days. Great dude. Does a ton of stuff in the community. Building a bunch of low-income houses in the hood. Always supportive of people.

The media has portrayed this thing that we've seen on this couch that he patent stats, he forced Kevin Durant out. Everything has been negative, besides watching the game that he is actually playing. Right? Yeah. Could he have done something better when KD was there?

Yeah. Hindsight is always fucking 20-20. What happened is they liked liked it when Katie left and it was like cupcake and all that. Now I do what I want. That commercial was fire. That commercial was fire. With the camera moving around. Yeah.

That was a beautiful commercial. I watch him play. I've always stood on that. stand for no rough slander cuz yeah I watch him play. Mm-hmm and anybody that care that much and play that hard and And do he has I Don't think so, but him addressing people, fans, and other people that has something to say about him, right? Because the media has made it cool to disrespect him in the media. He can't approach every single media person that has something to say,

but if you're an earshot or he can see you and you have, he's standing on that and he's not deviating from it. From nine to 99. Blind, cripple, or crazy, you say something to him, he addressing you. And people don't like that. So they hold that against his basketball game. Because his resume, when it comes to point guards is... But that's what I said.

It should be... I mean, all voting should be just AI now. That's what it basically is. Island Iverson should get all voting. I support that. AI should vote for every award. It should be artificial intelligence

that votes for the awards because... I think they should test that out. The personal people. The personal thing people have with using everything but the game. You're using everything that you can find that has nothing to do with the...

This is... Who is the defensive player MVP of this court? The fuck I'm doing out here in these streets don't have nothing to do with this right here. Right? So why are you using this against me? Whatever I'm doing, clubbing

every night, don't stop me from doing my job. You're evaluating me on my job, not me as a person. And I think they get the two mixed up. Right? I wrote something bad about you. You told me, fuck off. Nah, I'm mad. You told me to fuck off in front of my peers All my peers is laughing at me now. Well shit my peers are laughing at me, too

Right you calling me Westbury disrespecting my name and everything I got motherfuckers out here doing this waving and shit Right. I don't get the take away your like I cannot take away your voting Take away your credentials right here put them up hey let that motherfucker be jury duty yeah they're gonna be in the city hey you're gonna have them over like ho ho ho ho nah he can't be there he can't be there he can't be there get on off with you i ain't stepping no rustlander if i'm running for mvp i want a who's voting ah god no can we take him over here? I told him and his mother he can fuck off.

You know, you start doing that, get them on out of there. Like, do we even know who votes? There is a list of NBA... They starting to know now. It's too many. But as we talked about... How many? It's too many.

Even last season, it's a popularity contest. Obviously, it's to help promote the league. But there's a lot of people on the list who have no business having a vote. Absolutely. And it's sad. Can you give me that list? Give me a team from last year. It changes a little bit.

But it's most of the same. And they don't let the list out until after. Because these writers and these people don't change companies. So the list changes every year? No, slightly. Slight variation. A slight deviation from your But like how does one sit in the room would be like who's the hundred we're gonna pick to vote on this like we're gonna

There's a vote she deserves a vote. That's the WWE we talking about yesterday Right now if we did a top 10 if we right now us three did who is the top 10 best players in the NBA? We don't we gonna sit here and debate for at least 30 minutes on the first three right the order of the three we might come up with the same three but we're gonna have an argument about what order they fall in let alone 10 right so the fact that you have 100 people voting, we can't even give you that in time. We'd be sitting here like, hold on, dog. Come on.

It's a point system, right? Like the first place votes. Yeah, first place, second. So even like that is... That's what I'm saying. You should get one vote, right? They put them in order and you get points. You should get your one vote.? Yeah, I like put them in order and one for me vote

You should get your one Is MVP One through four and like you vote me like the president, right? Like him first I like him so I like Trump first Biden second Hillary third Like that would be crazy Should be a finalist list right and then you vote on that. I mean that yeah, that's what we like I mean, have you ever voted? Have you ever seen the process? Yes. Okay, we're never voting for MVP. How many people are on the list? Um... You fill it out yourself, so it's not, they don't give you like...

So you write in people? Yeah, the players do. The players write in. See, but something like that, it should be, hey, y'all, these are the top three players. These are the three finalists that y'all can only vote on. Y'all watch the league. You can't put your cousin in here,

you can't put your best friend, your mother's boyfriend, who your daughter likes, you can only vote on. Y'all watch the league. You can't put your cousin in here. You can't put your best friend, your mother's boyfriend, who your daughter likes. You can't do that. These three right here. Vote for the three guys that's been busting y'all ass all year. Yeah.

Right? We played against the three guys that's been terrorizing our ass all year. Damn the games Embiid played. He should have been on the fucking... Okay, he played 40 games. For them 40 games, he was the best motherfucker in here.

Facts. Right? He might be last on the list, but goddamn, because of the games he played, but he should definitely, like... Current structure right now,

you vote for five players for MVP and they're each assigned a point total. So first place, 10 points. Second place, seven. Third place, five. What I'm saying is... Because what if you get a lot, you get a good amount of first place, and then you get a bunch of

last place. When you say 5, those are wasted votes for no reason. Because 5 people shouldn't be on the list. There's no 5. Or like you're saying, at least get it down to finally. Who's the 3? Nicola, Shea, and Luca. Okay, now. Those are the 3. Like right now, who's the three? Nicola, Shay, and Luca.

Okay, now, those are the three, right? Now, if all 100 gets to vote for these three, we can actually see a real MVP, right? Now, when you add Tatum and let's say Ant-Man, you know how many

fucking names, how many people are going to just be wasting votes here? Because they're getting last place votes. Like they're getting fourth and fifth place votes. Or you'll have like someone who just really loves the second place. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're going to put Jason as first place. And it's going to be his only first place vote.

And they could have put that somewhere else. That could have been unanimous. Right? That gives somebody else who could have been unanimous for his team that you didn't get him this fucking vote win. Like, let's, come on, man. It should be like jury duty. They got to pull up.

They get asked a bunch of questions. All right. Who's your favorite team? You validate it. You can vote. You get a vote. Tatum comes in last, but he got, you know, 20 first place votes. Yeah.

Ah, that's rough. Because, I mean, let's say I lost by ten. Some seasons, though, it's not that easy to pick three. Ten of those could be mine. Some seasons it's not that easy just to pick three. Not every year, but some seasons. No. Yeah, it is.

Well, you should think you should... You should be watching the game. How, when do they start... No, it's if you're really watching the game. I mean, because we just say Giannis could be on that list. Because every year like so therefore if you vote for real like if you really watching the game it was it was a few years worse it have been Brian Katie instead just take Luke off the

list after after they do the the MVP ladder every week the NBA but that's like exactly media-driven like no real off if it's voting for three because his numbers and where his team is is better than what fucking Luke is doing Right. I was saying it's not always easy to pick three. So I said let's take Luke off the list Let's put your honest on this because his team is fucking mm-hmm second. He's averaging 30 12 and 7, right? But sick but second with 40 something wins, I don't know where that ranks. But it's second in this conference. Yeah.

Right. Got to put that in the count, right? That's wild. You got Doc as a coach. So those 49 wins right now would put them for... Put them in sixth place

in the West? Yeah, that would put them in sixth. In the West, yeah. That's wild. Yeah. That's where I've always been, though. Yeah, I know, but it should be like that.

Two teams in the East. I just don't like the fact that, you know, some of these, like, we can't use winning. We can't use winning as a metric because every individual stat that you can get has nothing to do with wins. Your wins don't count against you or for you with rebounding, steals, blocks, assists. You can be on the last place team averaging 15 assists. You're winning that award. You're the assist leader. Scoring.

You can be on the last place team and you average 35. You're the assist leader, right? Scoring. You can be on the last place team and you average 35. You're the scoring champ, right? So 95% of awards has nothing to do with your team's success. But that's why the MVP has to. That's why the MVP has to. That's why the MVP has to account winning because of that. But they did. That's what they said.

They used to. There's exceptions. There's always exceptions to the rules where, you know. Like you know, I have a lot like a Jordan 88 Westbrook's triple-double facts I'd uh, you know, motherfucker average 37 a native. Okay. All right, you know what James Harden did? Okay Right what Lucas doing I can see right? Again, but it still has to be something that just stands up like, oh shit, this is something we haven't seen for a while. Right? It has to be one of those

type of stats. Like, oh, your team is last place, but you average 40? Yeah, you got it. Okay, I mean, shit. 40 on that team, brother? I get it. Get some votes. Yeah, he's going to get you some votes. You earned this, motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just going to get you some votes. You earned this, motherfucker.

Yeah. All right, well, let's get back to the Suns. So after securing either the fourth or fifth seed with the win Tuesday, and as I feel like a F you to the Lakers, the Clippers didn't have Kawhi, Harden, PG, Russ, Norr, Powell, or Zubats. They still had their whole team. All played against the Suns Wednesday, but they did have Bones, Harden, PG Russ, Norm Powell, or Zubats. They said they whole team. All played against the Suns Wednesday. But they did have Bones Highland.

Shout out to the legend. Bones had a career-high 37 points in the game. And the shorthanded Clippers were actually leading in the fourth quarter. Suns went on a run to get the win. D-Book had 37. Bill gave them 26. KD had 24. Well, let's talk about another subject.

Earlier this week, Suns great Charles Barkley offered his thoughts on the current state of the Suns to 12 sports anchor Cameron Cox. Suns, are they going to figure it out? No, they're not going to figure it out. What does that mean? Well, they're not. They don't have any mental toughness.

The leaders are not leading. Leading? You're not going to turn it on this late in the season. I'm not sure what you're expecting, but they're mental toughness. They're weak mentally. It's not going to go good for them. What do you recommend? How do they fix what they're doing?

It's on them, brother. From afar, they're just really soft. Their leadership is not the players' leadership. The players have not led So do you agree with Barkley saying the Suns are mentally weak soft and the players have not led I don't want to say I hate his tie first and foremost. Okay, that's I just want to get that out there that I hate Well, that's hide it Where he wearing it. I just hate everything about it. Okay, you know, think he loosened up? He had a long day.

Long day, minimal deodorant. A long day? I mean, doing what? Final four. What was the Final Four coverage? That was after, right? Can you see how big that arena was? That's a long walk.

Who it from? You think he walked anywhere? They gave him the golf cart. Do you think he walked anywhere? Did he get the golf cart, Ken? Yeah. Hey, you watched the game, right? I was him the golf cart. Do you think he walked anywhere? Did he get the golf cart, Ken? Yeah.

Hey, you watched the game, right? I was at the... Do you remember where they were? Near the court. Near the court, right. Were they facing the court or facing away from the court? Away from the court. Away from... They angled their body.

The game was behind them, right? They angled their body towards the court. They angled. They angled. Who? You know exactly who angled and watched the actual game? Yeah, I was too. I was enthralled.

Oh, not me. I was watching them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who turned their body? They had TVs, Gil. Kenny Smith watched the whole game, right? What's his name? Clarkiello.

Clarkiello was double duty. He was doing the radio And then sprinting over For the TV And the other one Come on this other one He's been a long Who's the other person That's there

Ernie Ernie Right Watching the game I know where Charles was Wasn't by that TV I can tell you He wasn't watching the TV

That was in front of him, nor he was over there. He was off the stage the whole time, chilling and talking. Dapping up players, too. Yeah, dapping up players. And my thing is, this is my problem, though. I want to know what you said during that time, because I personally know you didn't watch the actual game. You didn't physically. Like, I'm looking.

I'm not even looking at the game. I'm looking. So he ain't going to look at the TV. I see the two TVs right there. You sitting here talking to this person, the whole, okay. Ooh, that was a dunk. Nope, didn't look up.

Assist, didn't look up. Now, I want to hear what you got to say about this game because obviously you didn't watch it You don't think he watching the Suns, you know You've been to the ESPN and TNT turning there were how much of the game do they watch when the game is going on? Clips with any misery making the back sleep Motherfuckers sitting there they sleep in the back over there playing everything but that bitch why the game won't she won't in five We only five and get some newspapers. Put me your PC. Give me the stats.

Give me the stats. Kevin made seven in a row. Oh, yeah, so Kevin made seven in a row. See, that's not a leader. I don't know. What? In the last minute of the game, he was... No, but, like, my question is this. Like, unless you have... Unless they're telling you personally that these guys are not leading, how do you know who's leading?

How do you know who's in their control and practice, this and this? You're just going by wins and losses of a team, right? This is a game. Some guys are not vocal. Some guys are. I mean, I can say, well, Jason Kidd wasn't leader because I didn't hear him speak. No, you can't say that. You know what I mean?

He didn't talk. So that's right. I'm not going to say nothing. But that's not. He's leading that team on how he leads it. You can't tell someone how to lead a team and we can't question how someone. Yeah, because it's not the way you like to be led or how you can lead. I think he's going by how they plan. How they

take turns playing. How the intensity is not always there. Were you supposed to go in there and slap people? Nah. Have we? I'm just saying. Have we? They're just so talented offensively. It kind of seems like it's very... It's like they're bored sometimes out there. The three of them. Has anybody questioned how hard they

plan though? Has anyone questioned Kevin Durant's approach to the game when he steps on the court? I've never heard nobody. How about Booker? No. No, right? Nurkic, Grayson Allen. No one's like, oh, man, they look lazy.

Collectively, you're like, they're lazy, but you take them one at a time. That's never been a conversation about any of those players. So how concerning is the inconsistency with this squad? I'm concerned. I'm just saying. Yeah. When the trade happened for Bill, the hype around this team, what we thought we were going to see offensively, what we thought we were going to see in the win

column. But what are we judging on? Are we judging on that they were here the whole time together? Right? If you say someone missed 30-something, 40-something games, that's going to affect their win total. I mean, so, you know, are they healthy now? If they're

not healthy, then yeah, we don't... We'll have some issues, but I feel like... We said that there are issues at the end. They don't know who, like, the guy is at the end of games. Like, last night, it was D-Book, I think. But it's hard, like, because some nights it I think. But it's hard like cause some nights it's Book, sometimes it's KD, sometimes it's Beal. Well we haven't seen

it really be Beal yet but he's still getting back into the swing of things and I think that's where the inconsistency comes from. But to call them like not good leaders and all that kind of stuff like I don't think that's a necessary comment for that group. So North what you've seen with the Sun squad I would be concerned because It's like everything is take your take turns. That's what it seemed like offensively. It's like you can't win like that like You have to establish a pecking order of some sort or have a point guard traditional point guard out there to make sure All of them can get spoon fit every now and then. Right now, it's like, let me get my bag on this wing

or next position, he getting his bag on that wing. It's like, take your turn. That don't work. That's been proven for a long time that take your turn with the superstars, that don't work. That don't work. Because one of them is going to be out of rhythm when you need them to be in rhythm. And it's not going to happen. There's going to be other times where they need an easy shot. They don't need to work so hard for it. So you need a guard out there that can create for them to spoon feed them a couple easy ones. And right now, they haven't shown that ability.

And when you got Nurkic in Denver, I mean Joker up in Denver, they well-oiled machine. They know exactly what's going to happen, who they're going to. Everybody's in rhythm. Same thing, you know, in Clippers for what they've shown so far. We don't know what they're going to look like in the playoffs before what they've shown in the regular season. Same thing in Minnesota.

They all know who the ball is going to go to. Everybody can play through their rhythm, And they haven't proved that yet. I mean, you got Bills missed close to 30 games this season. That's tough, bro. But you got KD and D, you know what I mean? That used to mean something. But there's other cast members now that can, like, match that. Even when someone says, oh, this person's soft.

Soft where? On the basketball? Are you judging the basketball? When has he been punked? Like when someone says, KD soft. Show me a player who's punked him on the court. Show me a player who stopped him being physical and all of this. Like, show us that.

If you're talking about him responding to you on social media, that's him as a player, then something's wrong with you. This is two different worlds. Show, like, soft. He's judging the game itself. Show me the soft in the game where he hasn't performed, where he hasn't been the best player.

Right? That's, if you're going to say someone's soft, say it about their basketball. Don't say it because they're responding to you in social media because you're gonna say someone soft say it about their basketball. Don't don't say it because they respond to your purse In social media because you're saying something about them and then they're responding But show me the games and the plays where he came in got fouled and I he don't want to do nothing no more Right. We know that's off right? We know that you've seen that we see that motherfucker coming there You punk him and he'll want to shoot no more. He don want to do none of that now that's considered soft. Yeah, I Don't think I don't think he's I mean the game the way the game is played now is different and your superstar players are not

The guys you want to be rough housing anyway Yeah, I think what you don't want your 200 million dollar dude to be the quote-unquote tough guy out there His toughness is his conditioning playing the the whole game, scoring points when the team need it, scoring 30 and 40. That's his toughness. That ain't his job to be rah-rah. That's what you got to catch like Kmart out there and UD and all them.

That's their job to hold all that down. Score 30 tonight. Stay healthy. Be efficient. Play 40 minutes if I need you to. That's how superstar players show their toughness. Not rah-rah. Like, that ain't it.

So before the season started, we thought this team was a championship level squad. Do y'all still feel like that if they're fully healthy or healthy enough going into this postseason? I mean, if they're fully healthy. I mean, we don't know what they look like fully healthy because they haven't been fully healthy. I'm saying no. I mean, you got a team like Denver. Like, that's like the, this is what a championship team looks like.

So we at least, because I mean, I still think that Denver could potentially lose. But it's like at this point, it's like Denver is Denver's championship to lose. So you have the example that you're comparing them to. So fully healthy, I still don't think that. Would you be surprised if the Suns were able to make a run to the Western Conference Finals?

If they're healthy? They have the Clippers first round, right? They have the Clippers first round. So they're seventh seed right now. They could end up, just depending on things, play out. If it started there, they'd play Minnesota. Or OKC. OKC.

They don't have a bench, though. And that's why they lose it. MostC. They don't have a bench though. And that's why they lose it. Most good teams that win championships have a decent bench. Yeah. They don't have a good second unit. So that means Katie and Book are going to have to play 42 minutes a game for every series. That's tough.

And they're not young no more. They ain't 25, 26, no more. Based on how the postseason looks right now, we'll know more Sunday at the first ever Gills Arena Live at the El Rey Theater in Hollywood what the actual playoff matchups will be. But you got the Timberwolves Suns in the 2-7. Let's say if the Suns win,

they'd be playing the winner of the Thunder Pelicans in the 3-6 matchup. I'm just saying that road... I think Pelicans is going to drop. Their last three games is a little harder. No, no, no. They end the season against the Lakers. No, I just thought about it.

They can stay in six or seven, right? They got that final game against the Lakers to end the season on Sunday. It don't matter. They need to lose all three to get into, like, the ninth spot. So I think even if they lose the next three sons can move up to six and I Think we I think Lakers Lakers can get 40 Lakers 47 max

Warriors is 47 And they got three more games They Lakers is a I think they can jump to eighth is their max right now. If they went out the next two and get some help on the other side. If they went out, they can go to eighth and then they'll play seven for the seventh spot.

Yeah, for sure. But looking more likely that they'll be somewhere in the ninth or tenth range just depending on how the world. I don't know. They can move to eighth depending on the second round. No, no, I don't know. They can move to 8 depending on the stack. No, because that's what I said, because they play the Pelicans. Pelicans play Warriors also.

And then they play the Blazers. So Pelicans play Blazers, Golden State, and Lakers. So the Pelicans have, they already played the Blazers, Pelicans have the Kings, Warriors, Kings, Warriors, Lakers. They can lose all three of those games. They can possibly lose all three of those games and fuck around and be

eight themselves. Yeah. They got three teams that are still trying to fight for something. And the Kings have the Pelicans, Suns, and they end the season with the Blazers. Yeah. Oh, that's who has to blaze. Yeah, so this Stuff won't change quick. So that's I said that last game I said is that last that last game is gonna be some weird shit throughout that game Cuz they all I think the damn their whole Everybody that's important play at 1230

It's like every games at 1230. I don't nobody know who won, who lost. That's why I said that. You was asking me. That's why I said delay the game, motherfucker. Sit in there. Ah, leave me alone. Get extra five minutes so we can watch at the end of the game. Alright, we need to win. We need to lose.

We need to lose. Whole bunch of random ass timeouts for no damn reason. We're going to see some generational tanking in the final three minutes. Cut the lights off. Be mopping AAU subbing out this bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened?

Darvin might do that anyway. He don't need any of that stuff going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about a playoff matchup that we do know is going to happen. We talked about it earlier in the show. Mavs and Clippers will meet in the first round of playoffs. Home court advantage still yet to be determined. Clippers need to win one of their last two

games against either the Jazz or Rockets to lock up the fourth seed. But either way, it'll be Clippers and Mavs. Third first round meeting in the last fourth season. Clippers have won the previous two. Different rosters on both sides. Clips won the season series 2-1.

Again, different rosters. Last time they played was December 20th. But looking at both teams right now, who are you taking in the seven-game series between the Clippers and the Mavs? Everybody healthy? Everybody healthy. Clippers. Everybody healthy, Clippers.

The way PG's playing right now. Clippers and Luka average about 35, 37, like he been doing. I thought Luka would average 40, but I- No, I'm just saying, honestly- Last 10 games, he's averaged 37 against them. For his career- He cooks- As an 18 yearold, he's been averaging 32. Yeah, he cooks the Clippers.

Luka cooks the Clippers, but the Clippers cook Luka. Yes. Yeah, and they got to equalize. And tie. And Russ going to be the deciding factor in all of it. They got Russ off that bench that can just change the... Yeah. Everything. It's like when you're playing with... Those are the type of series where

Kyrie, Luka has to play great basketball and someone like Tim Hardaway Jr. has to be playing at elite level too. Yeah. You got to go crazy. He got to go crazy. This is like one of those like, yo, good shit, dog.

You're getting paid off this series. That's one of these series where you're, he's averaging about 22, 25. Right? Something you don't account for. You don't have to. Yeah. Because Clippers got Terminator.

And when he healthy, he's one of them ones. Oh, yeah. Kawhi, how long has he been out for? Kawhi is one of them ones. How long has Kawhi been out? I don't know. Let me pull it up. I'll be forgetting you on that team sometimes.

Psychopediabrown. He was playing so well. I mean, he was playing so many games. He was playing really well. But Kawhi has missed past six games. Oh, not many. Reston, probably whatever little knack and injury he has, he's probably just trying to let it calm down a little bit.

Mm-hmm. As he should. Lex, you think Clippers got the Mavs in a seven-game series? Yeah. No Luka Magic? I mean, there's going to be Luka Magic, but it's not going to be enough, I don't think. Kyrie, favorite player, turn gonna be enough. Hey Kyrie

favorite player Turn the ties just tough matchups man. Yeah It would how well the Mavs defense been playing these passes because the way they defense been playing cuz they got a rim protecting gaffer but it's just PJ Washington not Known as a defender Gafford is the rim protector and that, but I think him and Zubat cancel each other out. Then you still got...

Yeah, it's just... Because any given day, we know what James can do if he get... We know what Kawhi and then Paul is just... I don't think... Well, shit, that goddamn Jones, boy, hell of a defender. Dallas. It's gonna be a good series, but I'm going... It's gonna be a good series.

I'm going close. All right, well, it's gonna be exciting, man. I'm probably the most excited I've been for a postseason in a long time, obviously, depending on what happens. What's up with this? Last year, we was like, oh, we getting excited for this first round. This year's first round in the West. Must-see TV.

It's must-see TV. You just hope with all the hype and anticipation, it doesn't end up being a huge letdown, just all sweeps and just nasty shit. Like, you want me to have a seven-game series? That would suck. Four-one. Yeah, we'd all go in. If that happens, four-one.

And then the Eastern Conference going to seven games, and we sitting there watching this shit like, nah. We got to watch this. Just to get smack by Deppert. Everyone is just dragging out this sorry ass. In West Coast every game we're all watching it.

Tell me, I hope you can replicate getting like that Kings-Warriors last time. It was something like this good series. Lakers-Florida. Lakers-Business.

The East side going to be ugly. East games are going to be nasty. East games are going to be I mean, these teams are excited to watch. I'm excited to watch the next though in the playoffs. Yeah I just I just like watching eggs and playoffs boo boo boo day on team when they start doing bad Only is that no, it's the only fan base that's booing on TV. Well, why they're at home. They're fans of high five? It's a new day, Gil. It's a new day in New York. It's the only team in basketball if you turn on a home game

the crowd booing like, damn! What these niggas do today? Knicks fans do not agree with that statement, Gil. I know they don't, but obviously. New York, lovely city. Rat issue. Smells a little bit like pee. You remember how that game, what was that Suns game? What was that Suns game? What was that Suns game?

It was what? What did that game start like? 36 to 6? Oh, those Clippers? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They would have been booed out that game.

Like a sun, bitch. Yeah, they would have finished the game with 12 points. Messing with that Knicks group. Get off the court. You're bums. You're bums. Not a ton to look forward to in the the East but let's talk about these Milwaukee Bucks so Janice will miss at least the rest of the regular season with the calf

strain he suffered in the third quarter the Bucks went over the Celtics Tuesday Wednesday they were back in action against the magic at home and Dame and Bobby Porter's put the team on their back so So Dame finished 29 points, nine dimes, six rebounds. And Bobby Porter's 30-piece, nine rebounds, career high five steals. For all the losing they've been doing previously, big win over Eastern Conference playoff team in the magic So bucks second straight win Wow the Bucks are four and three games without Giannis this season They need more than three four and three games of Giannis has not played this season They need to win one of their last two games to lock up the two seed

Should be started Pat B, shit. Yeah, Pat Bev is coming to start. Pat Bev had a dub. Dub against the Celtics. Double, double. That game, yeah. Another good game against the Magic. But which teams in the East can the Bucs beat without Giannis? And who should they be worried about seeing in the first round?

We'll pull up the Eastern Conference. Shit, if he ain't healthy, they should be worried about seeing anybody. Everybody. Yeah, shit. But't healthy, they should be worried about seeing anybody. Everybody. Yeah, shit. But who do we feel like from that? Nah, like... What you mean? We got the Sixers and Heat

as potential first-round options if it all shakes out like it's looking now. He ain't healthy, man. Yeah, it can't be nobody. That's tough. It can't be nobody? It was in Atlanta, but they ain't going to play them.

No, Trae Young is back. They're not beating Philly with Embiid back. Without Giannis? Yeah, just saying the Phillies stay seven. The Phillies are going to fuck around. I think they'll be okay against the Pacers. I think Pacers, Sixers, Heat. You don't think they'll be okay with the Pacers?

Potential Magic if they drop. I don't know, man. I think they might be all right. Not against the Heat, though. But as I said, so they have to lose. They can do it. But that's the thing about what Doc is doing. You're winning games.

When you're winning games right now to secure a two-spot while Philly and Miami Heat is sitting there. Right? Now, if you would have been losing these games, I wouldn't have said anything. Because I would have said losing these games i wouldn't have said anything because i i would have said all right fuck i want to play paces orlando as a first round because i can i can pretend that as long as yeah you might killing me and oh yeah he lost the last seven eight games and then i get out of the first round all the noise of everything goes out of the window i got us out of the first round but all the noise of everything goes out of the window. I got us out of the first round. But the fact that you're winning games, that's going to hurt you. You're winning these games for a shotgun to the face first round.

You're going to lose in the first round. No one's going to give up. You think I give a fuck if Giannis is not there? I'm on you. I'm on you. I'm on I'm on you. You don't need a coach losing the first round. God damn it You don't need to get that part he can stay home. They don't lose in the first round. He can beat it so I would I Yeah

If I'm him I'm thinking I'm thinking about How how I can make it look better me looking better like okay? I can lose three mo I lose two more games jump to the third seed and then I get I Get the magic or Pacers cool now if Embiid didn't come back then yeah you you want them But the fact that Embiid's back and he's playing I need to try to get out of it I got need to try to get out of that site So we know what the heat did to him last year Pacers 4-1 against him in the regular season at in season tournament this year

Embiid back with the Sixers Yesterday on this couch you said they could win a first-round series without Giannis I know I'm trying to I'm thinking about losing I'm thinking about you you gonna lose you're gonna tank it to get to these teams get down to three to get down to three I get down to three but Miami Philly gonna get but I guess it's my point is this three a better option than to read the big problem New York so they can beat you these without you think New York want to play Philadelphia or do you want to do you didn't want to play Indiana Orlando?

So yes three is the better option And but there's no plan door. Do you do you want to play? Philadelphia or the Chicago Bulls in the first round but to your point good It's gonna be a lot of nastiness on Sunday just with what's too. Is it too late for doctor, right? What because they need one way to get second they need one way who they got they're locked in second If they didn't like this they win the one of their next two games, they're locked in second. But you also got the moving parts to 5, 6, 7, 8. But New York, too.

I'm trying to stay in third. I was about to say, tears might sit burns in the mouth. Yeah, New York. Because if you're New York, no matter what, you're home court advantage. You're going to be home court advantage at the three, playing Indiana, where you drop the four and play Orlando. So either way, so either

one, so that means that's what I'm saying. In fact, the Knicks can still trick off that. They could fall as far to six unless I'm smoking. You smoking? Thank you. They can? Thank you. How? I got 47 wins.

I'm just saying, if somebody jumps them and gets to 48. Thank you. They can? Thank you. How? I got 47 wins. But you don't know. I'm just saying, if somebody jumps them, it gets to 48. It cancels each other out because one of the teams, they play each other, too. You got to count the... Yeah, for sure. They play each other. So... But I'm saying there's still a potential if the Knicks lose out.

Okay, even if the Knicks lose out, whoever... Cavaliers? They play, what, Cavaliers? Without home court? You know what whoever they play what Cavaliers without home court you know what I'm saying Cavaliers without home court so you know if you're New York you don't really that's the worst case and that's the worst case scenario the worst case scenario you gonna play Cleveland Orlando or I like them chances right for them I like that them chances it really don't

even matter about home court it matter just these are the teams we want to play and we're gonna get out of the teams we want to play and we're going to get out of the first round playing this group. We talk about the Giannis Calf Drain. Normally one to two week recovery time we've seen it go longer. So even if now the Bucks are able to win that first round series,

there's no guarantee how he's going to look coming into that second round. It's about to get nasty in Milwaukee. We'll see. Shout out to that crew. But let's move it a little bit. So Nate Robinson pulled up to the OG's podcast

with Mike Miller and Udonis Haslam recently and told a story about Doc Rivers doing him dirty. I had it in my contract where I made like $2 million. It's like 1.5 or something like that. If I played a certain amount of games. Doc River gives me a DMP. The game where I needed one more game

to get $1.5 million. And all I had to do was go in the game. And before the game, I told KG, I told the team, and they were like, man, what you going to do? Because the real me wanted to just go sub in and just say, just sub. But they was telling me, Nate, you want to play in this league a long time.

You got to be professional. They're telling you all these other shit. You don't want to go to the D league and all this other and they try to hold over your head to keep you in line so i was like you know i'll play your game cool all right whatever so after the game goes i call my agent i told him i was like bro i think he did that on purpose bro and he was like well we don't have no proof that he did and i was like bro i come from the knicks i was just playing and then i don't play that's a that's a clear sign why would he give me a dmp for i'm not hurt i'm ready to go like what was what was the reason and i never even asked him but i know he did that on purpose

that's fucked up that one made me angry. So business, ladies and gentlemen, the game is a game. Girl, you talk about this a lot, like guys should move away from incentives in their contract because of the shady shit that goes on like this. When you hear Nate telling this story, hey, what you on? You on Backpage? What you doing? I just feel like him stuffing himself in to activate that bonus,

how is that unprofes- Y' bonus, how is that unprofessional? Y'all would think that's unprofessional? It ain't nothing professional. He said he had been playing, then all of a sudden... Yep, he just came back. No, he was playing. On a different... No, he was playing about 20 minutes, 16, then he went to 6 12 11 8 down per DMP 13 minutes DMP and then 7 14 12 21 yes nasty out of his pocket. That's a tricky...

It ain't coming out of the coach's pocket? Is it? As a coach, obviously, he was told not to play him. He was told not to play him. And survival is, if you play this dude,

and we have to pay an extra 1.5, that's your ass. But as a coach, as a coach who played, you're a player first. You already know what type of dirty shit this is. And, you know... That burns me up.

I mean, that's a sticky situation. That's why I always say I don't like incentive deals, man. They'll get you anytime they can. Like, we losing, I don't want to pay you no extra $1.50. I don't want to pay you an extra $5 for it. Now, if we winning, we in first place, yeah, good shit, good job. We losing, we ain't about to make the playoffs or, you know, yeah, you ain't worth an extra point.

Sit his ass. But Doc, what they going to do to Doc if he do that? They going to fire him? Even if they do, we know Doc going to always get a new job. And you a player first, Doc going to need them. Like, go ahead, young fella, I'll deal with that later. If you a player, you a player first, I'm going to need them. Go ahead, young fella. I'll deal with that later. If you're a player, you're a player first.

He played. Stuff like this knocks out the whole theory of do whatever it takes to win. Because it's really only one-sided. It's the players that sacrifice and try to win. Upper management and coaches aren't.

It's for job survival. When a coach gets fired, he's getting fired because the general manager won't fire himself for all the bad picks he didn't pick. So easiest way to fire is, I'm going to fire the coach. It's his fault. Same thing with the players. It's easy to get rid of the player versus the person who's making the decision. It's easy for us to talk shit about James Harden versus looking at Maury.

So there's only one side that's really loyal, and it's we're loyal to the game of basketball that we've. Remember, when we're playing, the owners, the coaches, the only one who's been doing the job the longest is actually the players. In some instances, right? You know, we've been playing since we're eight, nine years old, right? So the game we're playing now at 30- know, I've been we've been playing since we eight nine years old, right? So the game we're playing now at 30 something we'd love we've been we've been coaching longer than you know, you're coaching so our like we you didn't Doc didn't his dream wasn't to be a coach

His dream was to be a basketball NBA basketball player and then from there he went into coaching, right? That's just what he's doing. We've dreamed of being a basketball player. So this is our love, right? So we're sacrificing for the idea of what we've had since we were children. So I can easily get you to turn down some money for the betterment of the team. It's already been in your DNA since you was little. You've been sacrificing little things here and there since you were little. Right, so it's easy to manipulate the player to sacrifice, but the organization don't. And have y'all seen stuff like that happen?

Before I know we talk about it a little bit, have you seen something like that happen to a teammate? I personally haven't. I've seen it in other sports. My cousin who played football in the NFL. Football, yeah. They have it bad in football. He said that's why they always play hurt because it get them closer to their incentives.

They know if they sit out and they need one player, one game, they know management counting that. So that's why they play through all those. They tear their MCL and then three weeks later they back playing you like why is you playing he like bro i gotta get my incentive bro and it seems like we're seeing that now on the basketball side with this 65 game minimum yeah and then we're talking about halliburton because it take away super max you go from being a regular max player to getting the super max you're like i got that

i need that super i've seen it in free throws it was like a tit for tat though right so the person so it kicked in shooting a certain percentage but it starts it unlocks after you know a certain amount right so basically when the player got that and he was shooting a certain percentage he wouldn't he didn't want to go like he didn't want to sub in when they were fouling. He didn't want the ball when they were fouling because he wanted it. He was right there to get his threshold. He wouldn't drive to the basket, only take jumpers and shit. And I remember one game, he got fouled. He was at the free throw line.

You know what Coach called a motherfucker timeout? Think about it. You know what a timeout mother fucker timeout? Think about it. You know what a timeout do, right? Yeah, ice shoot. Ice shoot, yeah. The mother fucker ice, timeout, boom. Like, damn. Went up there and break most of them mother fucker.

Break them home, Coach? Yeah. Now he got under it. Now he the most aggressive. Now he want to shoot all the technicals. Now he want to shoot the technicals. I need them pat- But that's what I'm saying. Need them back. Yeah, where you put incentives in. most aggressive. Now he want to shoot all the technicals. I need them

back. That's what I'm saying. When you put incentives in the game, as organizations, incentive does not equal team basketball. It doesn't.

It's not a non-sport. If you got to block incentives, you got to if you got a block guy if you got a block incentives, right? You got to lead the league in blocks or something like that to get an extra four five million the fuck you think we doing Yeah, well as a guard well, let's a rebound when he drive don't reach and foul I bet No I've seen that on rebounds like that and I'm putting our team in bad defensive motherfucking positions, rebounding and shit. I'm going off it.

Yeah, off it. No, I can't get. It's just, it's, it's, it's. I mean, you know, it's like, you know, put the players say like, Hey young fella, get them out of here. Cause they need their rebounds. They're back from them up. Hey, get them out of here.

That's how I eat. I got pushed out. I got my baby forcing. Got it. Y'all boom. Oh shit how I eat. I got push out. I got my baby forcing Yah boom. Oh shit Ref filed with a file. I just got pushed out of bounds. Now. I was your own your own teammate Amen don't come in here taking food out of my mouth. Yeah, what you talking about? I get paid off rebounding. Oh, okay.

My bad. All right, big fella. Nah, for real. You get elbowed on top of your head trying to take a rebound. Literally push me out of bounds. I'd rather have a turnover. It ain't my turnover, it's yours. Deadass. Danny Forkson got paid off rebounding.

We get paid off for doing Gil's Arena. And this Sunday, April 14th, 6 p.m. Pacific, Gil's Arena Live. The El Rey Theater in Hollywood. Get there early. It'll be a long line. We're running promos. This is our last promo of the day. They ain't got to be there early.

They're fucking weed-ass-ing us to be at promo of the day. They ain't got to be there earlier than fucking we. They're asking us to be at that bitch. Man. They might as well. They got to get their seat, make sure they're comfortable, get a beverage. No way. You know. 3 o'clock?

We have our own special interest. 4 o'clock. Do not try to run up on me. Oh, slow down. Slow down. 4. 4. 4.

4.30. We'll talk about it out there. I don't get out of bed until about 2.. No, no, we're gonna talk about this Oh, what time is the show? What time we got to be there Coming in 12 p.m. To be able to a fan show there at 4 o'clock Be there. All right

Be there. We need some entertainment before then Tickets are on sale now. We drop the pin the link in the chat to do some stuff with a little bit of cash Show up early do some strange for a little bit We got the QR code right now now, you can go straight. I'm just saying, to be honest, if you don't want to pay, you'd rather get there at 4 o'clock. It's easier to sneak into a building. Less security around that time. I'm just saying.

What kind of people are you trying to have around our friends and family, Gil? Get your man to sabotage his own show. Get your man to stand. If you want to sneak in, it's easy. No need to sneak in. Tickets are a very reasonable price. And if you want to sneak in. It's easy. No need to sneak in. Tickets, very reasonable price. And if you're under $35, but you're for Underdog Fantasy User Guild

and you show proof of purchase at the venue, you get a $25 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account. $35 minus $25, $10. Okay. We're going to do a high vote, so we're going to tell you how to make one. Okay. And we're giving out a bunch of information tricks.

We have a bunch of heavy basketball discourse. Look back at the season that was. We're going to have Q&A. We're going to have Q&A with the crowd. We have mostly fans with the crowd. They can ask you whatever they want. Okay. We've got some special surprises for you that you may or may not like.

I'm getting hit, dog. I'm not getting hit with a kick. It ain't my birthday, dog. That's where he went automatically. Fuck all that kick and face shit. Special guest, your child support judge will be there, Gil. Oh, I like her. It's all coming.

Doing a live scan. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, we'd love to see you all on Sunday, April 14th, El Rey Theater in Hollywood for Gills Arena Live. Don't meet us there. Beat us there. See? That's what I'm saying. Beat us there.

Beat us there. And now it's time for Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdark Fantasy. If you're not done, so download that. That shit seemed weak back then. They need to... You done used all the juice. Just do this.

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First question is a video question from underdog user Big Tone, Never Wrong. What up, Gills Arena? Question I got for y'all today is, if you could pick an album to describe your career, what album would you pick? And the second question I got, if you could pick a song for your highlight tape, which song are you picking for your tape?

Love the show. Peace. Man, watching it on the ceiling. That's the first time. Give some more bread. So what album would you pick to describe your career? And what song would you put on your highlight tape? Jeez. To describe your career?

I know a song I'll put on my highlight tape though. Nelly, Heart of a Champion. Okay. Yep. Quality. Uh, something. Renegade. Never been afraid to say what's on my mind. Yeah. Any given time. Drew.

I don't know. I know the song would be Tupac Can't See Me. Okay. I don't have a specific song, but I know it would be real girly. Whatever it is. Some bad bitch, girly type music. I don't know. Girly or bad bitch?

Both. Okay, combined? Oh, they do the sexy, get it sexy. Lexi Red. Lexi Red. Might as well be. Might as well lean into it. We're going to use that song. Alright, album.

Album. For your career? To describe your career. I don't know that one. Shit. Hmm Yet Damn for the fan album for the Having of all my favorite albums Say Apple

My mom whatever mine was gotta say got to start off aggressive, with disappointment, have some success, and then fall the fuck off. Whatever album that is. Whatever album that is. I feel like that is a lot of albums. So it ain't going to be be a classic I could tell you that That's where fall off the last eight nine tracks in our this bullshit right there That's a old-school old-school

They giving you fucking seven songs now I need an album that had like a few really good songs and people are like, dang, what's next? What's next? That would be the type of album that would describe my career. So you a Drake album? It just keeps getting a little better, a different better, but still better. But now these people are interested. Now these people are interested or now these people are interested

Yeah Well, let's keep this thing Drake album. This is my fav perf perfect How we say this name is a black album Got any impress all right? Black out was dope that was elite To my first like my little match what you told me. Yeah, that's what I said. Oh man. That's what I said, you know Yeah, it's like so the shocker one of them type of You know, you got the remix you got the regular song in my fault. Then you got the it ain't my fault.

All right, our next question. If you could build your own NBA player, who's shooting, handling, and defense would you give the player? I already answered this question on my Instagram. It was killing me. Yeah. They were killing you, Lexi? They were mad that I picked myself as a shooting ability. I was like, who else am I supposed to pick?

The one thing I'm very confident in is my shooting ability. They said shooting. What else? Defense? Handling and defense. Shooting, handling, and defense. Who'd you give the player? I'd go Steph. Shooting. Shooting. You're the player. I mean. I go Steph.

Shooting. Shooting. Dribbling itself. Kyrie. And defense. Give me. Give me Gary Payton. I thought you were going to go with yourself.

I got it. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, that's it. I mean, that's it. Give me GP Payton. I thought you were gonna go with yourself. I got I'm just good. I mean actually I mean Give me GP more possessions more offensive position Like say about yourself I was gonna say so maybe maybe Maybe clay shooting I know step obviously is the best shooter But the way that clay shoots in the manner when she gets his shots off Alongside with the handles of Kyrie. I think would be crazy Yeah, I guess I'm gonna do something different too as I said the same as a gills with Steph and Kyrie

So I go like Larry Bird shooting still gonna take Kyrie handle and defense Mike Jordan. And last but not least? Handle, shit. Me, Moochie Norris. Fuck yeah. Moochie dribbling shit out the ball.

Hell yeah. Norris Would you drove the shit out the ball? Yeah, I'm gonna Steve friends and fucking I'm shooting Steve Novak That way to be the things you don't have people had us watch the game Who played defense doing I ever give me Andre Karolinko Ak police Just some dear that's right. That's real Gotta be a real hooper to know I gotta come over. He's oh to Mine is for like a lord. Yes. He mine was for a guard Like I would if I was saying win be you had been have been like, oh, what kind of fucking player that look

like? Wimby. I'll pick Wimby. My player would pick Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby.

It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. It would look like Wimby. Yeah, we didn't show the wimpy sham guy the other day, but it's like I'll fight you

Set before doing this. Yeah, I'm got a spin. Yeah So basketball I could have went home now you show a real basketball IQ on that one for sure Which one Steve or no a cat both and no more. No, it's too late. Yeah Locking contest fucking Novak. Let's trust me for my first time playing him. I thought I was there man He don't see nothing dog next time to go my hand was like this thing. I was touching My hand was in his chest in the corner like you ain't supposed to be that far over nobody in the corner Fuck that he sprayed my ass. I thought I was that he caught that month before I knew it a bitch stupid Nick I'm not again, dog

He's 16 to he get that motherfucker off effortless who has shit ak-47 strap stuff he strap you up out there he's gone more two positions cover a lot of ground mm-hmm shout out the AK shout out Fantasy. Wamba Wamba. That's what you called him? No, no. She. Oh. She. Wamba Wamba. Stuck with it, though. The best variation on the name.

He might have to start going by Wamba Wamba. Wamba Wamba. It just flows so much better. His alien name. But we appreciate y'all. Again, we got the live show, so we will be back Sunday to give you more of your favorite show live in Hollywood,

the El Rey Theater. Are we filming live so the fans can see Or not a stream so they got a they got a pull up If they want to know what really happened they got to pull up we will have to edit some things out as you know Little more than we got to drop that some other time, but they get to come see the unedited unrated version NC 17. Well, you know Let me just ask you a question though Because we shooting on Monday and Tuesday are we not gonna film on Monday Do not tell the chat that they take it very personal Sorry chat We this is it. God. Let me Tuesday. Y'all went to the Final Four.

Why y'all taking day off? We're out there working. We'll see you Tuesday, goddammit. Still have a show Monday for everyone who is not going to be at the live show Sunday. That show will be available Monday for your viewing pleasure. And if you promise to pull up Monday to watch, we will not

edit anything out of the show. We will give you the full raw uncut version that the live audience got to see Sunday. I am lying because I already know Gil just heard that and he's going to go wild with it.

But I appreciate to all y'all for pulling up. Norah, it's always great to have you on the couch. Good to see you. Canyon, Lexi, Gil as well. And we appreciate all of you for watching the show.

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