Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down What Went Wrong For The Celtics

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates If The Boston Celtics Are In TROUBLE as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Miami Heat's stunning victory over Jayson Tatum & the Celtics in Game 2 of the NBA Playof...fs and debate if the Jimmy Butler-less Heat have any chance to upset the NBA's top team now that they have momentum on their side. They also preview the upcoming MUST WIN Game 3 for LeBron James & The Los Angeles Lakers as they look to get back into the series vs Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets amidst concerns that Davin Ham can't coach his struggling team. Finally, they break down the Oklahoma City Thunder's win over the New Orleans Pelicans where Shai Gilgeous-Alexander shined before reaction to Tyrese Maxey taking home the NBA's Most Improved Player Award & Naz Reid being named NBA 6th Man Of The Year. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:07 Naz Reid 6th Man 0:10:37 Maxey MIP Award 0:19:52 Lakers Blame Darvin For Their Losses 0:28:53 Is Darvin Ham Coaching For His Job? 0:37:48 Michael Malone Calls Lakers Series EASY 0:40:20 What Went Wrong For The Celtics? 0:57:36 Spo Culture Wins Again 1:04:58 When Did You Start Going Against The Coach? 1:25:33 Jimmy Butler Trolls Celtics 1:32:19 SGA & Thunder Go Up 2-0 1:35:07 Will Zion Comeback? 1:37:25 Chet Calls Shai The Real MVP 1:41:43 The Thunder Are The Next Dynasty 1:44:09 Haliburton Calls Out Bucks Fans 1:58:50 MostlyFans 2:18:59 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 We're talking about $100 magic. We're talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me.
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Starting point is 00:01:19 Change it again. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo! Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. It's our last show of the week. Damn, Lexi, it's your last show for a minute because you're about to dip on us and go play some basketball. Yay. Yes. Let's go, Sparks. Let's go, Sparks. Let's go, Sparks.
Starting point is 00:02:06 We need jerseys. Hold, T. Buy them. Dang. See, there we go. You said here, fanatics. Buy them. Did you get a percentage? Well, we can receive them as long as you purchase them.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Me? Yeah, we used to do the shit. Yeah. When somebody wanted our jerseys, we had to buy them. Buy them. Hand them out. Hand them out. Nope.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Need y'all to buy. You buy one, Joe buy one, you buy one had to buy them. Buy them. Hand them out. Hand them out. Nope. Need y'all to buy. You buy one, Joe buy one, you buy one, you buy one. We want, no, no, no. We want the ones they give you. It's a different thing. For the team. That shit they sell in the... Yeah, but I don't think they get that many.
Starting point is 00:02:36 The student store. She can get one. If I get my jersey, I ain't gonna have a jersey no more. That's what I'm saying. Hey, that's what I'm saying. I don't think they get that many. I ain't gonna get another one.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, I think they get one. No, they gotta have a blood jersey. They gotta have a blood jersey. So there's always one and a half. Ask me, like, halfway through the season. I'll get my daughter one of your jerseys. Yes. We're gonna be at the games. First, we were at the Long Beach Pyramid, but we will be in attendance,
Starting point is 00:02:59 supporting Lexi in the spark. Long Beach Pyramid, girl. Doing some renovations. Gil, don't say shit. For the arena, $4 million on't say shit. Don't say shit, Gil. Say okay. Okay, be there. So unnecessary. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 00:03:14 As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up, what up, what up? As we previously mentioned, we got Lexi Brown back on the couch for her last show before she heads off to training camp. To go, you know, we're gonnai Brown back on the couch for her last show before she heads off to training camp. To go, you know, we're going to send you out into the world, hopefully. We're going to do your thing. We're going to be there supporting.
Starting point is 00:03:32 We got Kenya Martin back on the couch. We got Mr. B, Bucks in six, Brandon Jennings. Lakers in six. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yo, hey. So you said it was my fault that they lost? Yeah. Why? How is it my fault that they lost?
Starting point is 00:03:50 When you were sitting up here. What is your team? What is your team in the playoffs? My team? Yeah. I guess the Lakers right now. The Lakers and who? You guessed, Brandon?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Come on. And the Hawks. Okay, so those are your two teams. So you shouldn't be at the damn Bucs game, bro. But you know everything you say about the Bucs. Putting that bad energy into the world, man. That's not, no, no. You putting that bad energy on our team, man.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No, you saying Doc is the best coach is bad energy. That's bad energy. Facts. Because you don't believe that. I believe it. No, you don't. I believe it. You wearing that Giannis jersey, that was bad luck.
Starting point is 00:04:21 How? Because you don't. We won. You don't fuck with the Bucs. Yes, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, you don't. Yes, I do. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Can we just trade our teams back? Can you... Here. You can have your Lakers back, bro. Because your energy is just... Is bringing bad energy to the... To Milwaukee and I. Or are you showing up, Bruins?
Starting point is 00:04:36 No, no. No, me not. Before you got on the plane, I was 1-0. What? You landed 1-1. I landed because you had to... You put out that... Put out that question about Doc. You had the jersey on.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Come on, man. One thing I can't. I just bought a whole bunch of Buck shit. I got Buck's championship hats upstairs and everything. No, you don't. Huh? I'm out there fighting for the Bucks. Can you go get my Buck's championship hat?
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm getting cussed out by Tony Brothers. Huh? Yeah. You got it down for the Bucks. Did you call him a TikToker? Did you call Tony Brothers? I should have called Tony. He's not with us, dog.
Starting point is 00:05:11 He's with the Lakers. He's with the Lakers. Penalize them. Pick him out. Gil, as you pointed out, the Bucks lost game two. But Mr. B, you were out there and you were turnt up. We got some video of you at the game doing your thing. See you right there.
Starting point is 00:05:27 He over there yelling at all of us. He yelling at our team, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Who are you yelling at? Who are you yelling at? I'm like, Pat, that's what's up, baby. Sharing about where Pat Connick's at.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Pat. He ain't got one of these. He ain't got one of these. He ain't got one of these. I do have one of those. He ain't got one of these. I do have one of those. Nah, he ain't got one of these. I do have one of these. Feel me?
Starting point is 00:05:47 We in championship mode, baby. Come on, man. You know you don't want to cheer for the Bucs. We in championship mode. Give a lifelong Bucs fan this energy he's bringing in that arena. Hostile. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:06:02 We down for it. I think he just hit a shot or he did something good he coming out I'm like let's go look let's go that's what I'm talking about yeah yeah no he pointed get him out of here get your ass out of here I'll see you BJ get him out of here I'll see you BJ hey bro well we got a lot to get into in the way hold on you say you want to trade yeah get my bucks back you got your leg we on. You said you want to trade. Yeah, give me my bucks back. You can have your Lakers. Can we make a trade? Yeah. You can have your Lakers back.
Starting point is 00:06:26 He said no. He cannot make a trade. Beto by the league officer. Y'all only two right now, boy. David Sturt. David Sturt. David Sturt. David Sturt back here.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Chris Paul trading. Oh, bueno. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Heat stunned the Celtics in game two in Boston to steal home court. But what does this win say about Heat or Spoh-culture? It's Spoh-culture, right? It's not Heat-culture no more. The Thunder smacked the Pelicans in game two,
Starting point is 00:06:56 but Zion thinks him making a comeback this series is definitely realistic, as he says. But is it really? And AD and Darvin Ham aren't on the same page, but will the Lakers snap their 10-game losing streak to the Nuggets in Game 3? Some of us hope so. Some of us do not.
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Starting point is 00:07:46 There's somebody in the chat. Somebody. Announce yourself. So that's the only thing you saw? Yeah, yeah, that's all I needed to see. Okay. You all in three right now. So yesterday I was getting manicure and pedicure during the show.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I was just listening. I just had the chat. I was watching just the comments and, yo. They be in there, right? Not polite Don't look at it. I don't It was a shot ass yesterday Not having no hat on
Starting point is 00:08:21 Hey That's what it put the crown back on. Hi, man. Yo. The whole time I was in the... Yo. Yeah, y'all stop being so mean in the chat. They're very... They were.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Y'all are rowdy in there. They're very weird. I don't know what some of these people look like. You know... Show yourself. Now, let's do that. Now, let's do that. That was the funnest...
Starting point is 00:08:40 We're going to see who last in. We got Apollo in here. This is the Apollo. Y'all are ruthless in there. Very mean-spirited. Yo, man, I was just, I'm in, my wife's sitting right here, and I'm getting, I'm just busting out laughing periodically because they're just coming, and I'm just, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Like, it doesn't stop. Oh, yeah. Someone will spam the same thing over and over and over. As you know, I'm monitoring a bunch of things while the show's going on, the chat being one of them. Very me-spirited. Yeah, so you don't ever even respond. Like, you don't have no reaction to nothing in the chat ever.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I don't ever. Oh, yesterday, no, you was holding some laughs. I think I did go one first. Oh, you had to because it was some creative shit being said yesterday. Some creative shit. Some shout-out boy. Some creative shit. But they was being very creative yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:25 with him not having no hat on. I just want him to, listen, he would appreciate some of this shit. I'm telling you, dog,
Starting point is 00:09:32 hey. He could have used some of them for his shirts, I'm telling you. Hey, he needs a bed. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:10:55 Keep those videos under 30 seconds. You can ask us about anything. It doesn't have to be just basketball. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. So, it is awards season around the league. On Wednesday, the league announced that Nas Reid has been named sixth man of the year, beating out Malik Monk and Bobby Portis.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Reid played in 81 games and averaged 13.5 points, 5.2 rebounds, and 1.3 assists in 24 minutes per game, shooting 48% from the field, 41% from three. Reid is the first Wolves player to win the award. So I know some people on this couch thought Malik Monk deserved it. He did not get it. What do y'all think about Nas Reid and what he's been doing this season? Don't all speak at once. Oh, no, you know, I was big on him when Cat went out. You know, I'm the one who was saying that they wouldn't go miss a beat.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. Right? You happy with any of them? And him stepping into that role when he was out, I think solidified it. But, no, I'm a cool way. It could have went either way, man. There were some worthy candidates in that department. Could have went either way.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I believe Monk had a hell of a year. Team didn't make the playoffs, so it's a little tough. So that probably weighed into the thought process of the voters. Your team finished 10th. Yeah. So... Monk missed some time at the end of the season. Yeah, missed some time at the end of the season, and it goes against you. I missed some time at the end of the season. Yeah, you miss some time at the end of the season, and it goes against you.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I missed some time at the end of my rookie year, and it cost me rookie of the year, so it's a real thing. I know it sucks, but it goes against you when you miss time at the end of the season. I got hurt in March. I broke my leg again in March,
Starting point is 00:12:42 so I missed the rest of March and then the beginning of April. So Mike Miller was still playing well out there. You know what I'm saying? So it's a real thing. You had a facial expression when I was doing that read for Nas. Out of the three players that was nominated, he has the worst total average. Right? Points, rebounds, assists.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Right? He's at a cool 20. Points, rebounds, and assists. Right? Combined, right? Combined. Okay. No matter how you look at it, if you're going to try to use team success,
Starting point is 00:13:23 which shouldn't have nothing to do with, you know, someone coming off the bench and being productive. So he's the least productive out of the three. He actually started 14 games that actually helped him get to 20. Malik Monk was at
Starting point is 00:13:40 23.5. So he averaged 15 points. So no, he averaged 23.4 out of all of his totals right Nas Reed is the center averaged 5.2 rebounds Malik is a guard 5.1 rebounds right so the production of what he was doing
Starting point is 00:13:55 is still third right if he wasn't going to give it to him then Bobby Porter's is at 22.5 right so his production is still better than Nas Reed So it's like however you want to look at it However, you how do you how many games each one of those guys but I'm in again. I think Malik played what seventy One I'll give it to you one second so he's ten less for this played all 82
Starting point is 00:14:19 I want to say all these you know I've replayed anyone so one less than Bobby and Nine ten more than Malik. Yeah So that's what I said and then the breed had the advantage of starting right, you know, you started 14 games Malik didn't start any and Bobby Porter started four so it's like I guess That's the only reason like I said, it could have went in like it should went to Bobby then That's what I said. If you're going to say, oh, he's missed as many games, he should win Bobby.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah, because he played all 82. And I was going to ask you, when judging six men in the year award, teams obviously suffer injuries all season long. Should what they do when they're now thrusting the starting role have any impact on that? Because I'm saying I'm a good enough six man that when my team needs me to fill a gap or fill a void of an injury. If you look at majority of the six men, most of those guys started. Like, when Lamar Odom won it, he was damn near a starter.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So, I mean, what did he average in those 14? So, in the 14 games restarted with Cat's sideline, he averaged close to 18.7 rebounds, 2.1 assists. No, you haven't. As a starter. I'm saying, but then that helped. That's what I said. It helped. That's what I said it helped it but that's a bad idea 13 points like you said you could have gave it either guy yeah nobody like I wouldn't complain if
Starting point is 00:15:33 they would have gave it to Malik month if he missed the many games or they gave it to Bobby Porter there would there be no no great from nobody I always fucking deserving of the award I'm saying they just I think they could get the eyes just pick somebody that's something like it looks like right but the award. I'm saying they just I think they could get the eyes just pick somebody That's something like it looks like it, but that's what I'm saying is like Number one it was like yeah, but that's what I'm saying like when you think about it They're about both both players beat him in every category should have been Bobby body So they they both beat him in scoring they both beat him in assists. They both beat him in rebounding. Yeah, they should have been. Bobby Portis. Bobby Portis. Yeah, it should have been Bobby Portis.
Starting point is 00:16:06 If you're going to penalize the games he missed. I mean, that's what we talk about with kind of all these awards. What's the criteria? Team success? Let's see. The games that are missed should be null and void if there's a 65-game rule. So since there's a 65-game rule. But they still punished him, though.
Starting point is 00:16:21 They still going to punish him. I hear you. It sucks. They still going to punish him. And let's talk a little bit about Nas read I believe sign a three-year deal this past offseason to take the stay with the Timberwolves could have took a bag elsewhere And probably been a starter, but how does read solid play impact cats future with the wolves cast name has been Mentioned a bunch of trade rumors for a while now What did he average when?
Starting point is 00:16:45 18. Yeah, 18-7 and two assists. 18-7? And kind of play. I'm not similar to Cat, but he plays outside a lot. I always say he's a guard trapped in a big man's body. Nas or?
Starting point is 00:16:58 Nas. Nas? Cat. Keep Cat. Ooh, that's a good one. Send Cat to Golden State. Oh cat keep shit. Oh, that's a good one. Say cat the Golden State sitting got yeah Yeah, I don't know how much longer cats gonna be a mini For who's a three over there who's a three over there make it happen
Starting point is 00:17:20 McDaniel J McDaniel, that's that is Wiggins damn near. Yeah, since that's back Here's your shit back. No, I'm just playing. Cat under contract, he's got a player option of 2027, but making 50 mil next year, 53 the year after that, 57 the year after that, and 61 in his player option, so... What? Yeah, I mean, he's getting a big back, so...
Starting point is 00:17:38 Damn! Hey, that's super max you gotta give. Super max, give me my goddamn money. Yeah, give me my money. Give me my money, super max. So now to give it. Super max. Give me my goddamn money. Yeah. Give me my money. Give me my money, super max. So now if you're the Timberwolves, depending on how this playoff shakes out, and it's hard to really grade them so far this postseason coming back from the knee injury, but. You got to met a, you got to know how to read at a bargain.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Bargain. You got to met a bargain, so you're going to stick with what you got. Yeah. I was just thinking basketball tournament where Cat can go help. But, no, he's just going to stick, Cat stay there. That's where he at with all that money You don't need to try to trade him as if they can get back some more pieces What? What's gonna help you some draft picks win, but you they ain't gonna play anybody no matter. I mean
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, I feel okay. I think they got in there. I think they'd like what they were. I think yeah The best player is 23 22 23 Cat is under 30 still Daniel your baby. Yeah, Rudy's got a player option in 2025 cats under contract 31. Yeah, I must say you're 28 I mean, you gotta I gonna say yeah, I'm 28 Yeah, but so he But the explored if they did explore it before there's nothing wrong with revisiting it if you think you can get some back and you can
Starting point is 00:18:56 Niles can fill that role and when you trying to But it's a lot of money. Yeah They've got that core of go bear, Townes, Conley, Anthony Edwards, Nas Reed, and Nikhil Alexander-Walker and Jaden McDaniels all. Yeah, so that's where they're going. Where do you upgrade? I mean, they have a great 7-8. For success set up for the next however many years, man.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's the next three, four years at least. So they finished third this year. They was fighting for first all year when is when is a when is Nas up so Nas has a player option in 2025 so he's under contract next and when is cat up cat is the player option in 2027 ooh so he's under contract for the next three seasons and then he's got the player option oh no, so basically 2025 when Nas is up again. That's really gonna be the Yeah, the determination. Yeah So at some point I mean do you think my trade deadline next year or not figure something out by next summer?
Starting point is 00:19:54 When Nas is yeah when Nas is coming up They're gonna try to figure out something because he's gonna be demanding money if he keeps it up. Give me my bread So we asked the chat. You only get better.. Does Nas Reed deserve sixth man of the year? More than 2,000 voters, 60% said yes. So chat, normally haters, give Nas Reed some love. He deserves it. Shout out to Nas. First Timberwolf to win sixth man of the year.
Starting point is 00:20:15 So we talked about this a little bit at the end of the show yesterday. But Sixers guard Tyrese Maxey was named the league's most improved player. Maxey's the first player to win the award after averaging 20 points per game the previous season. So he averaged 20 points, three rebounds, three and a half assists last season. Numbers jumped to 26 points, close to four rebounds, seven assists this year. And the Sixers were 14 to 20. Improved recently. So, yeah, most improved is kind of funky.
Starting point is 00:20:44 A lot of people pointed out he was already pretty good, and he just got gooder. Right. Tyrese Maxey from last season to this season. Improvement, though, I will say. Yeah. But, you know, Kobe White had a solid year for the Bulls. Might have been in 50-point games.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, they had 350 balls. Joel was out. He kept them afloat till they got... That's kind of...another team went home. That's kind of...I get Kobe White had a hell of a year. Yeah, he did. He had a hell of a year. Points, all that shit was up. I get it. Putting the star on the roll, Lonzo was out. They put the ball in his hand. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:22 But you can't...like, you just have... You can't ignore the, you just have, you can't ignore the fact that Chicago went home, and this man had three, this man had, but Joel, they, but Joel, but, so his play had to elevate while Joel
Starting point is 00:21:37 was out. He was already playing well while Joel was there. While Joel was out, he had to go up another level. And still only averaged 25.9. The team got in the playoffs. Huh? The team got in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, because Joel came back. Because he held them afloat. They wouldn't have been in the position if Tyrese Maxson wasn't playing the way he was playing. What did they lose? They were losing. So they went from three to a damn playing game. They were 14 and 20. Because Joel wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah, they were 14 and 20. So they still had a better record in Chicago. So with that said... It's called most improved. The player... And the players... Yes. So you want to say
Starting point is 00:22:14 what they was losing... You think he would have won most improved if Embiid stayed healthy? No. They were calling him the most improved. Absolutely not. Why not, though?
Starting point is 00:22:22 He wouldn't have. Well, he was... Because Joel would have been... He wouldn't have. It's the though? He wouldn't have. Well, he was in the front runner when the season started for most improved. It's the player is most. He wouldn't have won it. My improvement from one year to the other year, it doesn't have nothing to do with my record. History has shown that.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So Kobe White in the last 24 years has the fourth highest production from one year to the other with 13 points. 13-point increase. Increase. Yes, he did. From rebound. He had a hell of a year. Rebound everything. So you got the highest would be what?
Starting point is 00:22:58 Zach Randolph, he had a plus 19. You have CJ McCullough had a plus 19 You have CJ McCullough had a plus 19 You had Lori marketing plus 14. Mm-hmm and then Kobe white. Mm-hmm So the only two people in a six-man award, how many of them will how many of those one? What the board that we're talking about? These are all the award winners. These are all the award winners. Zach won it. He got the notebook. Zach won it.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Lori Marginal won it. They had the notebook. CJ McCollum won it. So the worst plus from one year to the next is Jordan. I mean, Gordon Drogic. He only had a plus 4.2 overall. He beat out Lance, who had a plus 10. And Anthony Davis, who had a plus 10.7. Maxie, from last year to this year, had a plus 10 and Anthony Davis who had a plus 10.7.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Maxie from last year to this year had a plus 9 and Kobe had a plus 13. So Kobe is the only player that lost with that big of a gap. Okay. There's most improve, it's you. It has nothing to do with your team record or nothing. It's the player's jump. Obviously it does, Gilbert. Yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 00:24:06 If you was voting, it wouldn't. But you don't, so other people do, and they equate other things. I don't know what they're equating because I went through all the metrics. Well, obviously they equate other things. I went through all the metrics, so whatever they equated, they just equated for this year because there's besides... So it's Gordon, Drogic, and Maxie, the only two players. So throughout the history of the award. 2024.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Since 1999, Jalen Rose. Throughout the history of the award. It came in 1999 when it's first existence. No. So when was the first time the award was? I don't know. The first award is 85 days. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So throughout the history of it. So it all is always going to the person that has the biggest point differential total differential so it's no points every is the 100% has always gone to that person. No besides Kobe white Danny green and sexy How far did you go back? I told you 99. So you didn't go back and look past 99. So there's a lot of basketball being played before that. From 86 to 99, right? So that ain't the only measure
Starting point is 00:25:12 that they go on, Gil. So you stop your research. So you do the shit that you hate. But what is your research that makes the argument? You're just saying that... Because 85, 86, the war has been around.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You only went back to 99 Gilbert so my question is throughout the history of this award is It only the point differential the point jump that matter overall Points rebounds assists steals blocks turnovers files fuck whatever you want to put in the plus, minus, put it all in the category together. Has it always went to the person who had the most together throughout the history of the world?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Has it always went to that person? From 99? I didn't ask you that. I can't answer before. So therefore you don't... So stop asking me the question if you know I didn't do it after 99. So why would you bring it up then? Because since 99.
Starting point is 00:26:08 There's more people. Then don't ask the question. So don't give me the bullshit stat then if you didn't do your homework. For 24 years? You didn't do your homework. For 24 years, that's bullshit. There was 30 years before that. What is your homework to even complain about?
Starting point is 00:26:21 You don't have none. I just did, Gil. I asked one question. What is your homework? I asked one question, but what is your home? My question? Why is one question? Can I get a pin? I have one question. I Asked one question That debunked anything that you just fucking say the bunk it without yes I can you just how are you because you didn't wait anybody else? I Have 24 years
Starting point is 00:26:46 There's more people that won the war so 24 years you want to pull out one or two people to know everybody Everybody how many how many do 85? Okay? How many do how many do we need it's made of six? How many do you make it sick? Okay? How many 86 everybody how many do we need? From 86, nigga. How many do we need? From 86, everybody. How many do we need? Everybody. Everybody. From 86. How many do you need? You said it. My question was.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Since 86, how many years has it been? My question was. Okay. Is that 100%? 38-ish? No, nothing's 100%. So give me the number, then I'll let you know. Okay, so what is it?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Do your homework. 96? 86, nigga. What is the percentage? 86. So if it's at 95, is that 90. What is the percentage? 86. So if it's at 95, is that 90? What is the percentage? Give me 95% of the shit, Gilbert.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Sit here and waste your fucking time and do it. While we have a real conversation in this room. Because right now we're at a 98% since 2000. Okay, so go back to 86. If we include that 98%, the person with the totals won. So my question, Lexi, is...
Starting point is 00:27:45 How many players won with the biggest total? ...has the award 100% of the time? Well, no, it hasn't, though. So I just gave him two. Yeah, he's... In 24 years. So go back and do the rest of the math, then. Did not think that a most improved player discussion would...
Starting point is 00:28:03 But I do got some trivia for y'all before we move on. Who won most improved player in the 2002-03 season? That doesn't mean I have the whole list from now. You should have did it. Lady six. You know it was you. Oh, he won? You know it was you.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Do you have the award here, Gil? I'm trying to win this year, guys. Hey, yo, didn't Paul George win? Paul George won it. He won it too, right? Yeah. Guys, I'm trying to this, you guys. Hey, yo, didn't Paul George win... Paul George won it. He won it too, right? Yep. Yeah. Guys, I'm trying to win most improved.
Starting point is 00:28:30 So what was his point differential? Paul George was a plus nine. Did Monte Ellis win it? Yep. Yep. Monte Ellis was a... So he played plus nine. Plus 13.3. Played after 99.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Everybody you name, he played after 99. night Lexi say you're trying to win the most improved player award in the WBA this year I am everybody we're naming. Can we start the campaign? Yes All right, I think I was on the way to do the last season before I got sick So this year I'm we will hold a press conference at our local Applebee's to make the announcement. Lexi Brown fans, unite. Let's get Lexi most approved player. Can we get courtside seats to the game? Underdog Fantasy will be furnishing the Gibbs Arena crew with courtside seats. Tim,
Starting point is 00:29:15 figure it out. But let's move on. Let's talk about the most pressing issue going on in the basketball world, the Los Angeles Lakers. Man, we didn't talk about them at all yesterday. You shouldn't. And you see, the numbers did not perform because people only want to hear about Lakers.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I had to prove my point. Everybody, oh, why are you always talking about Lakers? Because that's what y'all want to listen to. So after the Lakers' embarrassing game two loss in Denver Monday night, Anthony Davis appeared to take a shot at Darvin Hamm and the coaching staff. We have stretches where we just don't know what we're doing on both ends of the floor. And those are going to cost us. Yeah, so after the Jamal Murray question, I think that was the mic drop.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Oh, okay. That was a dumb question. I hate when they the mic drop. Oh, that was the mic drop. Oh, okay. That was a dumb question. I hate when they ask stupid questions like that. Oh, they gonna ask him every game? He made a shot. What happened?
Starting point is 00:30:11 They gonna ask him every game later. He busted my ass. What you want me to say? Like, what? He made a tough-ass shot. Y'all saw it. He made a shot. So, AD did spend a little over four minutes in the post-game press conference, which is
Starting point is 00:30:20 commendable after a heartbreaking, devastating loss like that to put the Nuggets up to a unfortunate event but he said like you said in the video that uh They didn't know what they were doing on both sides of the ball stretches in the game So on Wednesday, Darvin hand was asked about 80s comments as a Lakers prepare for game three tonight Back in the arena formerly known as Staples Center. I mean, I just think sometimes the plays don't turn out the way they should. And the frustration sets in a little bit, but I don't think this was not the more. I think we had incredible talent at coaching all along on staff. We pride ourselves whether it's a black team that shoot a lot of success. We pride ourselves to be highly efficient and organized.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And so I just talked about being frustrated, you know, it's emotional, you know, wave enders, all of that. So I was great at this real now. So Darvin Ham said there was some basketball dribbling in the background, a lot of activity as the Lakers were practicing very hard to get a win. Darvin Ham said he would agree to disagree. So how concerning is it for the Lakers that A.D. and Hamm aren't on the same page now 0-2 heading into game three?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Our resident Lakers fan, Mr. B. Brady Jennings. I mean, it's tough, man, you know. Down, you know, going back home. You were passionate, didn't you? Going back home game three. Man, you know 10 game losing streak right
Starting point is 00:31:46 9 game losing streak 10 game yeah man we gotta figure it out you know we gotta figure it out we should always know what we're doing I don't I don't like
Starting point is 00:31:54 I feel like you guys are both giving each other bad mojo no I just think like you know like
Starting point is 00:32:01 I just think Brandon you got your hands in your pockets right now you know we agree to disagree so you know, it's not like I just think you got your hands in your pockets right now You know is we agree to disagree? So, you know like we're gonna figure it out man, you know ad Him and him gonna talk and figure it out, but we should always know what we're doing I don't think they've been on the same page all year so that would seem like a fucking head on There's been some videos posted up. They could blame you like well
Starting point is 00:32:23 Was he was he talking about Darvin Hamill or was he just talking about the overall that we don't know what we're doing out there? He said there was stretches in the game where they didn't know what they were doing on both sides of the ball. Which I would say that is a coaching issue. Or team or players that's out there.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Or you're not paying attention, motherfucker. Yeah, or he's not paying attention. Yeah, or that. Or that. He's probably not paying attention. Weren't they winning the entire game? They were up by 20 at one point. Yeah, so it's like very odd that he is saying that
Starting point is 00:32:51 when they had a very comfortable lead for the majority of the game. So fans have pointed out a video of Darvin Ham during timeouts. You know, Lakers fans with the cameras out, clipboards. Nothing on them? Just initials on them. No plays being diagrammed. No arrows, no lines. They have it in 4K.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You can search the app formerly known as Twitter. I had a bunch of people tagging me in videos like, talk about this on the show. So he just had names? Clipboard, BFD, just names. Whatever y'all want.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I don't know. No, you can't. Yeah, Anthony, yeah, I don't... Y'all lost. Yeah, yeah, you can keep that shit to yourself. That is the case. You coming in, yeah. People that hoop. We know what's going on. Yeah, if you don't know, yeah, I don't...
Starting point is 00:33:33 We know what's going on. Like, what, the coverage just wasn't clear? He wasn't loud enough? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah going on. Yeah, if you don't know, yeah, I don't... We know what's going on. Like, what, the coverage just wasn't clear? What, he wasn't loud enough in his play calling? What, he... It's too late to make that statement.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah, so what is it? Like, during the timeout, if you can't hear him, or the coverage, hey, man, I can't hear the play call. It's loud in this bitch, man. I don't know. But when he's saying that, is it, like... Like, if I hear that, I can't hear the play call. It's loud in this bitch, man. I don't know. But when he's saying that, is it like... Like, if I hear that, I'm thinking that if he said that as a player, I would be probably more offended than the coach.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah. You're saying, I don't know what I was doing out there. Like, I'm, you know, like, offensively, I don't know my coverage. And defensively or offensively, I don't know. You want the ball or need the ball. And defensively, I'm missing my assignments. So you feel like AD was more shot at the players on the court or It because it's so up in the air. It's like the first one who answers seems like they give to you
Starting point is 00:34:36 So we say oh, I don't know what I'm talking about Because our good just be like well shit we coached our ass off. So that's that's today problem But he said we'll agree to disagree with Say he sound like it He sounded like they defeated. And that's what Darvin was saying, basically. Like, yo, we were ready. Our staff was prepped. They were supposed to win that game.
Starting point is 00:34:55 The game had been won. That's players on the court, man. We all have been there. When there's a comfortable lead, everybody feels that it's their time to get their thing going. You start taking shots you normally wouldn't take. And a lot of people did that. When there's a comfortable lead, everybody feels that it's their time to get their thing going. Right? You start taking shots you normally wouldn't take. And a lot of people did that. Sticking with what we've been doing, right? And do you guys notice that when you were hooping?
Starting point is 00:35:17 Like, if you had a comfortable lead, guys would start trying to get theirs and kind of divert. It's time to work on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Work on shit? It's time to work on it. But what would you rather? Would you rather players become, like, a little bit overaggressive or everyone kind of, like, start chilling and, like, trying to keep the lead? Overaggressive is one thing.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Working on your... Yeah, work on your extra things. Some shit that you just, no. Yeah. That's when you're like, the center want to shoot a three, and there's a 23, like, that's when that kicks in. Yeah. Right, how you play, like, in the last three minutes, game, overweight,
Starting point is 00:35:44 that's what happens when you up and you know Rudy out there shooting threes and you you like listen dog I Time out yeah sit the fuck down. Yeah, I can get everybody out of you know, I don't understand the comment Watch the game. We all watch dick Look like y'all were in sync to me just Denver never stopped playing right never never stopped playing when they went put what plus was it they went out of what eight out of nine or what oh the final the final nine possession this corner eight on Damn. Yeah, and that ain't, hey.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And that's great. That's a good, that's a bite down. And then Jamal Murray hitting that shot is tough. They got to cut that little light-skinned dude off. At this point, right, you know, Yoki's just giving you, he's going to give you 40 to 55 total points. Points, rebounds, and assists. Rebounds, assists. You just got to count that in.
Starting point is 00:36:39 There's nothing you're going to do about that. Right? It's that little light-skinned that that's gonna kill you the last five minutes the one person that y'all can't jamal mary the one person that can do it is not playing yes who vando i need some i know i'm saying that's the thing where he at see gabe he look at gabe vincent like like baby yep like dude you my height you have no you have no he look at him you smaller than him they're missing we're looking at AD the same way, too, though. In this situation, you need...
Starting point is 00:37:07 Vando is perfect. Come on, Vando. Everything... Oh, that's your guy. Everything I said about Vando, man, in regular season... Yeah. Let it go. We need you now.
Starting point is 00:37:17 No, but everything you said during the regular season goes out the window during the playoff series. Yep. Because what he can bring to the table is fucking... For one, offense rebound. He going out the window during the playoff series. Because what he can bring to the table is fucking, for one offense rebound, he going out the box, and he going pick up 94. So can we even really count
Starting point is 00:37:33 this series if Vanderbilt didn't play? Because he's such an important player. If I was still a Laker fan, I'd be with you. Move the goal. We have Mando! I know it's 100 feet, but not today. 105. Y'all need to take my statement back about. We didn't have a man goal. Man, I know it's 100 feet, but not today. 105. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Y'all need to take my statement back about Denver. I said they didn't have any hymns. Jamal Murray's hymn. Jamal Murray's hymn. Yeah, Jamal Murray's hymn. I mean, you know, before Jokic, like, took the reign, that playoff series when Jokic and Donovan Mitchell was going... I mean, when Murray and Donovan Mitchell was going at it,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I mean, it was impressive. That bubble. That was before the ACL, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was before the ACL. Yeah, that was before ACL. Yeah, Jamal Murray always been here. That bubble with Murray was.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I was tripping. Yeah, that bubble Murray was different. Ooh, wee. What led you to have the ACL on, right or left? I don't know. It was near work. Damn, I forgot about that in the bubble. No, that bubble, he was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:27 And the down and the both was going... Uh, left knee. Oh, so his jumping knee? And he's still jumping? So, Darviham been on the hot seat for a while now. Is he coaching for his job this series? If they get swept? Oh, it's a great possibility.
Starting point is 00:38:42 We don't use that word on this couch game. Minimum games allowed. We're gonna use it today, Josiah. Yeah, oh, it's a great possibility. We don't use that word on this couch game. Minimum games allowed. We're going to use it today, Josiah. Yeah, if they get swept, he might get swept. You've been trying to embarrass me all weekend in a diaper. No, I'm going to say, if they get swept, the conversation might heat up. If they get swept, you've got to bring a broom. Who is going to coach the Lakers if he gets fired?
Starting point is 00:39:01 Even if he loses in the first round, I think he's out. Not if they win a couple games. In the first round? You don't think Braun and him are tired of him? AD clearly is. That's what I'm saying. Either way it go. It might be. What, this year three?
Starting point is 00:39:16 So who do you hire? This year two? No, this year three. This is year three. Who do you bring in? This is year three for Darvin, right? Let me double check It's been so yeah, it's been a blur Been a blur from Milwaukee. Yeah
Starting point is 00:39:32 Adrian No, yeah He's too young to coach a team but year one year one Western Conference finals. Yeah, I think they give them I think Jeannie Jeannie appears to be a big fan of high so my date I like remember at the beginning of the year all of them Was like last year was so fucking long with all the rush shit and all that. Yeah but then but this year it happened with but the DLO and candy Lemon Daddy Lemon Daddy Candy
Starting point is 00:40:25 He was still he was still 30 and 13 I would say under the major for Ron I Still got it bring it Hold it more little abroad coach. You know LeBron do want to coach Player coach. Yeah first NBA Internet is the bill Bill Russell is there Oh I'll bring fish this would be a great option legend everybody like him everybody everybody like this Let's talk a little bit about the Nuggets. Nuggets have won 10 straight games against the Lakers. How's that for data?
Starting point is 00:40:48 That was him. He said that. How's that for your data? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Nuggets have won 10 straight games against the Lakers, six straight in the postseason. Michael Malone says his squad hasn't even had to dig deep into their bag just yet. Wednesday was our first practice.
Starting point is 00:41:02 We've gone over our game plan. We've gone over adjustments for a lot of different players and play calls that we haven't even had to show yet. So that's why in the playoffs it's more of a chess match, reading and reacting. But again, we're not doing things that we've never done before. You don't come into a game, write something on the back of a napkin and say let's's do this tonight. Everything that we're gonna try to employ is then stuff that we've worked on and we've used in live game situations. Good shit, bro. So someone on Reddit pointed out, uh, Michael Malone is playing chess while Darvin Ham is bashing together
Starting point is 00:41:35 his LeBron and AD action figures and making sound effects with his mouth. Oh, my God. Pew, pew, yeah, you remember how you said it back in the day? Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. I had the whole thing. Oh, yeah. I had pew, yeah, you remember how you used to sit back in the day? Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. I had the whole thing. Yeah. I had the whole ring, everything.
Starting point is 00:41:49 How simple were we back then? Pew, pew, pew. Having a blast. The cowboys and the soldier toys. Having a blast. I used to have them all around the tub. What? This generation does.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Now it's iPads. They would never. For hours, dog, just sitting there. Now kids on the iPad, like a little kid, you can see it. They do, ah, after they look at it. That was that Dennis the Menace. iPad babies. So what are your reactions to Michael Malone's comments?
Starting point is 00:42:14 And to further that, how impressive has he been just these past few seasons? It seems like he's a guy who's not getting a ton of love for everything he's been able to do with this Nugget squad. Bro, they're locked in. Bro, I just think they're locked in on another level just from the coaching staff, from everything. Just how they play and their demeanor. Even when they were down, they were still just going with their flow. I think they're just locked in on a different level than everybody right now.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I mean, the first two games kind of feel like they're just bored with the Lakers. So I was like, all right, let's let them get a 20-point lead and work on that. I mean, they've gotten the reputation of being like the boring team but After seeing I mean, I didn't watch them super closely this season, but like after watching them in the playoffs They're just like extremely locked in like people might think that's boring, but like they don't celebrate too much You know how too much they're kind of like very even-keeled, like no matter what's going on. It's like that San Antonio...
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's how your best player is. Yeah. I mean, they've taken on the entire personality of your kids, it seems like. Yeah. It's like San Antonio Spurs
Starting point is 00:43:12 with Tim Dillon. What's so funny is the most exciting person in the organization is the coach. Yeah. He's the only one that talks shit.
Starting point is 00:43:17 The only animated one running in the mouth. Yep. So I should be low-key sometimes. Me being there, like having first-hand knowledge, like I spent a summer league there.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Coached the summer league with them a couple summers ago. Just their staff as a whole, outside of him, is very knowledgeable of basketball. And they eat, live, sleep the game. And they put the time in. They watch film. They're going over scenarios. Like, they actually, they, for the summer league,
Starting point is 00:43:55 the guys were well, well prepared for summer league. Like, we, like, have a couple meetings before the guys get in the room and we all got certain things to do so now they were up a pair So now I can only imagine for the playoffs how how much information that they have to and have went over so when you were there from Jersey to there how different was technology like the information of
Starting point is 00:44:22 like practice game film and all that how much it wasn't okay so y'all was advancing because from like golden state to orlando yeah i mean from um from washington to orlando two different planets yeah like you know they were doing blood testing out there they're were checking you know everything. So I was just wondering like what was the... Denver, in that regard, when I was there at Denver it was horrible. When I was playing for Denver. Now they got so much shit now it's way different. But I'm saying like a couple years ago, like I went out there I was looking in
Starting point is 00:45:00 the, I was thinking about coaching and just... Michael Malone a hell of a coach you know don't a lot of the coaches on the coaching staff like either like dad's played or coached to like his coaching staff like aren't some of the coaching staff coaches like dad's either played or what in denver yeah behind michael no i think uh so so. I think it was minute. I think was like some good joy Joy, no, so you got David Alderman Ryan Saunders Popeye Jones Ryan Bowie right Robbo play here. Yeah, so you got a Steven Graham. Yeah, you got Steven Graham. Yes, I'm saying yeah, but there's all like him. Yes all like you know
Starting point is 00:45:42 I got the best They got like you guys well, yeah. And they got a few guys. Basketball mind is crazy. They got a few guys from Europe on the staff. So they're real rounded. So they coaching the offensive spacing of European basketball. Like, it's all of that going on. Like, they, and then I was there.
Starting point is 00:46:01 They was picking my brain about the defense. So how would you guard this? Like you would do if I was in the room, right? So how would you guard this? How would you do this? How would you do so we always I think that's the advantage soon, but I ain't Not just too much just too much deep. Yeah, that's I mean winning. Winning high Jason Terry is a G League head coach. Oh, never mind. Okay, well, let it be. I didn't mean anything to do with the. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:46:30 So, question for everybody on the couch. Were you ever in a series where you felt like your team had equal or more talent, but were getting outcoached? Shit, yeah. Hell, hell yeah. How does that make you feel as a player? Like, just recognizing that. That's a different, yeah, yeah. How does that make you feel? Just recognize it. This is Denver, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You bring it back. Any particular year. At what moment do you realize that y'all getting outcoached? You see those faces thinking about George Carlin and going, hey, put this research away.
Starting point is 00:46:59 At what point did you realize that we getting outcoached? Huh? When did you realize? We don't have a chance going in in that regard. And what series was that? Lakers Western Conference Finals.
Starting point is 00:47:09 So going into that series... As far as that aspect, no, we... Listen, we played against San Antonio in the playoffs and got a chance in that regard. Pop coaching circles around this man. Fucking guy over here. Do we have no fucking... here. We ain't going over everything Mike Malone said. I was sitting there like
Starting point is 00:47:30 damn. In the game situation. We never went over none of that shit. Dead ass serious. And did you know it then or did it take time to realize later on in life like damn he wasn't doing shit. No.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It was conversations being had? Yes. We ain't go over anything. Or did it take time to realize later on the life like damn he wasn't doing no Man we ain't go in after we listen Anthony Carter threw the ball on me and shot it but this fuck we watch me a AC threw the ball away Out of bounds play we're trying to zip a mellow up Yeah, we lose Next game fuck the AC ain't taking the ball out who decide big badass Kenyan ass Kenyon wanna go take the ball out? I'm gonna get that bitch in. Same scenario, Zipper Mellow up, turnover. We lose.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Right? We ain't do nothing from one game to like, went to New Jersey, like, game on the line. We playing the hell, we, cause we, in our mind, if we get past the Lakers or championship hour We're gonna put foot the ass to Orlando. Mm-hmm. Like we go. Yeah that year Ain't yeah When they have a chance man
Starting point is 00:48:39 Through the ball away twice Could we ain't got no zipper mellow up shit. Zipper mellow up. And they just took it away. We got no time out. Oh, so he's the first zipper up? Yeah. Not zipper to guard and then hit. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah, strong side. Yeah, strong side zipper up. Strong side zipper up. That's the worst one, dog. That's the worst one, man. Hey, I stole game winning, stole that shit off that first zipper. Because it's easier to guard because what ends up happening is the guy who's taking it out of bounds, that defensive guy can just jump into it.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Deny the ball. Yeah, deny the ball. Yeah, I don't like that. Turn over. Brandon, did you ever have a series where you felt like that? Like, damn, this other coach is very well prepared for it. Yeah, when we got swept by Miami, when I said Bucks and Six, we had no chance. They had a pretty good team.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Our coach got fired. Scott Scouts got fired, and we had the assistant, so I knew we had no chance. Lex, you're still hooping, so I want to protect your bag. I mean, the one playoff experience I had, we won. So you didn't have to worry about that. Good job. Big positive. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Ring me. Yep. It was fun. I was going to say Orlando. Okay, when we played Bulls, bad coaching helped us get that win. Scott Skiles decided he wanted to, for whatever reason, bench Eddie Curry for the playoffs. Right? And think about who we had.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Antoine and Brendan, they had Eddie Curry and Tyson. Right? So that was a big mismatch for us because that mean you know Twan would have to play a what's-her-name or had to try to teach or keep Tyson off the you know the back So we didn't really have no answer for that, but Scott did a great job by he ain't playing oh So no she only is out there. Yeah, that makes it easy for us. I want to destroy. Yeah, so and That makes it easy for us. Trying to go destroy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and then we win that series in Miami. We wasn't outcoached.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It was just, it was Shaquille O'Neal, Dwyane Wade, and they just beat us the fuck up. And then my second playoff was against Cavs. I think just Braun outsmarted us. It didn't have nothing to do with that coaching staff. It was just, you know, I think Mike was, Mike Brown was,
Starting point is 00:51:07 he was young, right? It was, you know, it was just brawn just manipulating the game within the game and, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:16 seven people in with his eyes and nails and fuck out of here and shit like that. And Kane, just to go back quickly to that zipper play when Kobe stole the ball, what was going through your mind when that. And Kane, just to go back quickly to that zipper play
Starting point is 00:51:25 when Kobe stole the ball, what was going through your mind when that happened? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Wait, how much? Y'all were down what? I don't remember the score like that. Was it one of those where you're throwing it
Starting point is 00:51:38 and then you're trying to grab it back at the same time? Denver was up? Denver was up by like one. I just remember from watching it. Damn. Shit was bad. Yeah, that was the one. I just remember from watching it. Damn. That was bad. Yeah, that was the...
Starting point is 00:51:48 Oh, no! Yeah. Yeah. I'm proud of that bitch back and it's too late. Yeah, I've been in a couple of playoff series against San Antonio. The one with the Clippers, I think we were... Didn't Vinny Del Negro start with pop? Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Vinny Del Negro, uh-oh. Vincent Da Black. Vinny! Slake Da Vinny. So we had the Clippers, that playoff series, we coached against Pop. Yeah, that shit was... That's the one y'all beat the Rockets? No.
Starting point is 00:52:20 No, they lost. Yeah, no, we beat Memphis. Okay. In the first round. Against, he lost. He beat Memphis. Okay. In the first round. Against us, yep. Yeah, we... Devinney getting ready to sub. Chauncey was like, hey man, you trying to win this?
Starting point is 00:52:31 Like, man, you better lead Kenyon Reggie ass in there. He was about to put Blake and DJ back in the game. Mm-hmm. No, see, dead ass. Zach and motherfucking Mark was having their way. Hey. Are you trying to win this? Hey, bring these puppies to this dog fight, man.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yup. Yup. And that's what it was in that fourth quarter. It was a dog fight. Hey, sit down, don't coach. Let us do what we do. Give the ball to his goddamn guy. Let him shoot it every time, him and Moe.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And we gone. Now, Nick played well. He did play well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Nick played well. Goddamn guy let him shoot it every time him and Moe and we gone Nick play well this he did play well. Yeah, Nick play well, so last question Could we've done a sufficient amount of Lakers and coaching talk are the Lakers still gonna be in the playoffs when we're back on this couch Monday game for Saturday. Yep. Thank you Brandon. That's what I needed to hear. I'm right. We can move on because I don't care about everybody else's opinion. I don't know, man. We need positivity. I'm just saying for the show and the ratings, right? We just hope the NBA come on.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Y'all failed us last year. Y'all failed us last year. Just give us one. Just kidding. Foul them out. Yeah, they need to win one. Call for some fouls. Scott Foster not doing his job.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I don't want Brown to get one. If they don't get one, it, it's a foul. Scott Foster not doing his job. I don't want them to get, I don't want Brown to get If they gonna get one, it has to be game three. It has to be game three. They gotta win today. No, no. If they don't win tonight, it's over.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Ball game over. You know why it's over? Because you didn't have to dip. Just a player himself who's just sick and tired of being sick and tired. Right? You're like, all right, this is the last game. And then some coaches have been like, yeah, we just got to take one win at a time. Right?
Starting point is 00:54:17 And you're like, man. Shit, that FOMO game? FOMO, dude, you're crazy. How about it? In a row. And then from there, you're going to start. Tonight, they got to win them. That's what I'm saying. So it's like, you crazy. In a row. And then from there, you're going to start... They lose tonight, they got to win them the rest. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:54:28 So it's like, you know what I mean? So it's like one of those things where when you're down 0-3, nobody really trying to... The players, they ain't going to give up. They ain't going to give up. There's nothing you can do. I don't give a fuck who you think you are. There's more people that's ready to go home I'm done with you. I'm done with y'all. I'm out of this bitch. I'm ready to go on vacation
Starting point is 00:54:52 Especially that's been on the back half of that bitch. I was watching like Niggas who got contracts up this year ain't trying to get no ankle injury. She can go ahead Get this mother over with Always great hearing your guys Ain't even bit I've been swept before okay, so that last game you be sitting in left We go down. Oh three are you in between those a game three or four you already make a preparation hell no no no No, I was in the final the first time that shit was horrible. I came out and play I had 35 don't know Last game yeah, yeah fuck. I wasn't trying to go home
Starting point is 00:55:25 How was everybody else though? Well, we played hard. We just we just was a lesser team like that's how we another time get San Antonio that shit was That's a that's a horrible feeling going in the game for it all you go you think you want to play you get out? That's this God start going left you like I Know I'm mentally tough, but you start looking around. Yeah, you start looking around. Y'all ready to go. But you start looking at everybody else's body language.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You start to look like, see who else didn't check out. Yeah. You start looking like, as much as you want to say something, you're like, yeah, I just about to check. I just about to check out, both. That's what you know, you start looking at stat sheets mother who averages 30 and moving about like 16 15 I Think I'm he ready to go. We've never seen a oh three some vows early What?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Shit the pay attention to the stars and they who like to quick file fucking reaching for What Ball fight, look really start claiming files you hit them We've never seen the team come back from now oh three or you won't We did We've never seen a team come back from down 0-3. Oh, you won't. You will never see it here. That's what I said. That's hard, man. You mentally, like, there's too many people that's just this one game and then, like. But that's what I think about the people at the end of the bench, man, who ain't played.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They just, like, ready to get the season over with. Players who's having a bad game. I mean, just a bad series. They ready to get. Like, you know, D-Lo last year. Man, that game four, man. Took two, three shots. He coming off the bench now. Man, motherfucker get checked out.
Starting point is 00:57:08 No, let, let team go on 8-0, 10-0 run during that motherfucking game four. Man, shit. LeBron gonna get his 35 in the first half. His 35 in the first half, two in the second. What?
Starting point is 00:57:24 I had 37. You know what's so funny? How Dame looked in game one, that's how it looks in game four, dog. Amazing first, second half. You were like, what the hell? Crazy he did this. I can't believe he didn't score in the second half. That's how he usually looks. We never seen a team come back from down 0-3.
Starting point is 00:57:47 The Celtics did come close last year. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. I'll crash. I thought you said you know where Close works at. Does she work with Hope? No. No, Close only counts in horseshoes. Kind of, depending on what Hope got. Horseshoes and hand grenades.
Starting point is 00:57:59 But let's talk about the Heat Celtics. This year's version, the rematch. So Tatum and the Celtics cooked the Heat in Game 1 Sunday, leading by as much as 34 points in the fourth quarter, winning by a dub. Celtics were 37-4 at home during the regular season, and with the Heat without playoff, Jimmy, many thought it would be a sweep, but they were wrong. The game was back and forth until the third quarter
Starting point is 00:58:20 when the Heat went on a 15-3 run and led by as much as 12 before taking a six-point lead in the fourth quarter. Tyler Hero led the Heat with 24 points and 14 dimes, going six for 11 from three. In his previous five games against the Celtics, Hero was four for 24 from behind the arc. Bam Adebayo dropped 21 points and 10 rebounds. Came up with a bunch of clutch shots in the fourth quarter to help the Heat preserve their lead. And Caleb Martin had 21 points, including five threes in the game. Shout out Jaime Jaquez for that bucket.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Like I said, Caleb Martin had five threes in the game. None bigger than this one with the Heat up six. They basically put a dagger in the game, put them up nine. Heat hit a playoff record, 23 threes in the game, shooting nearly 54% from deep. Tatum followed up his triple-double in game one with 28-8, and Jalen Brown put up 33-8. But Derek White was the only other Celtic to score in double figures. The rest of the Celtics struggled, including poor Zingas and Drew
Starting point is 00:59:14 Holliday, who combined for 15 points in the loss. The Heat trio of Hero, Bam, and Martin were combined 23-38 from the field, 11-18 from three. Damn. Lexi, you are, you're not picking hats out of a bag. A Celtics fan. I am a Heat person right now, though. Go Heat. But that's your team? Yeah. See, because everybody ain't claiming 18, so you're Heat.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Go Heat. Okay, so you should be happy. I'm half happy. So how excited were you to see your favorite team and favorite coach? Mmm. Mmm. Celtics. So I was happy
Starting point is 00:59:45 the other day. I'm kind of happy now. But, yeah. Spoh, man. You're going to get your own blood. But Spoh, he's just so impressive as a coach. What he has those guys out there doing, even if they're down. They're starring Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 01:00:00 They just come out and play so hard. I don't know what kind of defense Boston was playing last night so I mean defense I played in game one he'd only made 12 threes game one I say yeah they just shot so there was no they played the same way listen the winning team they beat him by a certain amount they made a small adjustment they anything they feel they need to make they thought them guys will come out and play the same way and the same things and they came out and played them different. My thing is, I mean, even, you know, that's all they have, right?
Starting point is 01:00:34 It's three-point shooters. They don't have... Ooh, the Celtics? Yeah. No, no, no. Miami. Miami. They don't have any. The hero's not driving. Caleb Martin's not really going to drive like that. Duncan Roberts is not driving, right? You don't have Caleb Martin's not really going to drive like that. Duncan Robinson's not driving.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Right? You don't have anybody who's going to be attacking a basket. These are just three-point shooters. They had a ridiculous shooting night. Right? I mean, even if they hit three or four, you got to be like, all right, let's get a little bit closer on them. Let's let them put it on the floor just a little bit because we do have height over them. Like, Ron, they wasn't even running them off the line or nothing like they're just
Starting point is 01:01:07 there and they're gonna shoot. I get that. They didn't shoot the ball well. But they shot it. They put them up there. Adjusting, you gonna start running them off the line or you gonna still let them shoot them same three? I don't think it had nothing to do with it. They made shots right? But the adjustments that Miami made, right, they switched everything. So it may look like a zone. They kept them out of it. That zone was whatever. Stayed out of rotation.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It plays on, but no, but they switched everything on the ball. All pick and roll, even with Porzingis, they had Martin guard Porzingis in the post. They were switching everything, right? Even Tyler Hero was guarding Porzingis in the post, right? Yeah. Like they were switching everything right even Tyler hero was guarding Porzingis in the post right? so It kept them from penetrating kicking and stuff like that game one Jason Tatum had ten assists game two he had three Make him play one-on-one basketball one-on-one basketball each guy had three assists two assists four assists like for Boston it's three assists four assists two assists four assists one assist one
Starting point is 01:02:10 assist three assists three like you know Tyler Herro had 14 himself assists? assists. Game two so it made him play one-on-one basketball so when I'm watching the game that was the difference that was the adjustment right we're gonna start rotations We're gonna play you guard your man Whoever's on contest the shot make it tough on if you make it he make it stay between him in the basket You know, we're not helping Manui mano and that's what they did and that was the adjustment. So let's see what adjustment Boston comes with now For game three because that was the major adjustment
Starting point is 01:02:45 and it worked for them so they like we just gonna play one-on-one we're gonna make it tough he's possessed we'll pick you up full court and live with the result because he's so good in space they ain't give him no damn space but even even with that like that it's just like they have your number right you know I know you got you upgraded right you upgraded you got better players in there but for the most part they have they know exactly what you're going to do. Right. And they understand that you two guys play a certain way. So we want you guys to play individual basketball. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You take three or four shots because you think you're on fire when he gets it. He don't want to just take a shot because he ain't shot in about four minutes. And that's what ends up happening. You're separating them, letting them eat each other instead of them playing basketball. If Jason Tatum is here, we already know where to find Brown all the way in that corner over there.
Starting point is 01:03:40 He ain't even the first pass out of whatever the double. He's the second pass, so it's got to go from Tatum to White, from White to Brown. We can just deny Brown, let White shoot that shot every time. So you can really isolate the team, and it seems like that's what we're supposed to do in a little bit. They did, and then another point to what I was saying about how Miami was playing the pick and rolls and certain things in game one Porzingis was getting so much
Starting point is 01:04:07 space separating out of the pick and rolls so the rotations and all that shit was longer mm-hmm so that was just so people can understand why they start playing like start switching everything and just playing the monies in the post like if he catch that the elbow is just gonna make it tough on him catch away one catch you shoot a turn turnaround and jump and make it, shoot a turnaround and jump and make it. He's not going to kill him. Because he was shooting the ball from 27, 28 feet.
Starting point is 01:04:31 That's a far-ass rotation for guys to try to get there when you're trying to keep the ball kind of double-tiled here. Jason Tatum and Brian to keep the ball out of them guys' hands. But, no, you got to like, so we know what Miami coaching staff has been in big game and clut situations they're always going to come up with a great great game plan and if they're making shots good luck trying to beat them so naturally Celtics fans in attendance weren't happy left the game early Celtics fans on the internet weren't happy as well uh one Celtics
Starting point is 01:05:03 fan posted the following tweet. He said, Eric Spoelstra watched 763 Chris Stapps post-up possessions and analyzed every frame to prepare for this game. And Joe Mazzulla was logging the town on his letterbox diary for the 27th time and writing, still holds up, solid flick in the review section. We're doomed. So let's talk a little bit about the Heat and Spo. We talked, you know, whether it's Heat culture, Spo culture culture. Brandon, what does Spoh winning the game against the Celtics
Starting point is 01:05:28 in Boston without playoff Jimmy say about him as a coach? What was Jimmy's tweet? Oh, we're going to get that in a second. Oh, don't let us get one? I mean, but yeah, like you said, man, it's the system. It's everything Spoh does. They've been in this position before with them last year. So I'm sure they still have confidence that they can beat them It's the same team. I mean just adding drew of course, but I mean they got players They got definitely better players than had last year that was the name Gabe get his name Gabe Sam Yeah, whatever. Not Gabe. But no. That is not Gabe. Also, man, they can keep making shots. I mean, they keep hitting threes.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I mean, you know. Well, actually, obviously, our resident Heat fan on the couch. Lifelong since April. No, I mean, I've always been a fan of Spoh. And people always are like, why does he never win, like, Coach of the Year? And I just think it's because he's just so consistent every single season. But also, I think that Coach of the Year award is cursed.
Starting point is 01:06:30 So I hope that they never give it to him because it's just bad energy after a coach wins that shit. Wait, he's never won? He hasn't won in a minute. Not with D's D? You don't even be in the conversation sometimes. He won it with LeBron in them, right?
Starting point is 01:06:45 I mean, yeah. That's the thing that kills me. He's never won. Yeah, he's never won coach of the year. It's weird, but, I mean, he's the only one who's still employed by the same team. Wait, when LeBron number one, who did he give it to? So, during that stretch, Tibbs got it in 2011. Pop got it in 2012.
Starting point is 01:07:04 George Carl got it in 2013, Pop got it again in 14. 2011, that was Derrick Rose's MVP year? Somebody gave this motherfucker coach of the year? Yeah, nigga, y'all was good. I wasn't there. Oh. 2013, George Carl was named coach of the year.
Starting point is 01:07:17 14 was Pop, 15 was Bud, 16 was Kerr. I'm telling you, he's never won. It's crazy how he's never won coach of the year. He's the only one that's in the same spot. Maybe you're right. He's like, shit, he don't need it. He don't want that shit. That shit got bad energy on it. Okay, here. Only one that kept their job was Pop.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Who? Okay, this is a real question. Exactly. Right? What makes you coach of the year? What is a coach of the year, right? Let's say who's... All right, who was third in the... Okay, New York, right? Was second in the East. New York was second.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Yeah, second in the East. Third was the Bucks. What's your favorite? And who's fourth? Doc Rivers. Magic, right? Cleveland. Cleveland. All Alright, let's say Cleveland gets Paul George next year, right?
Starting point is 01:08:08 Right? He gets Paul George and they number one. He should be coach of the year? Because, you know what I mean? Like, shouldn't a coach of the year, like, I guess this is just biased thinking, you have the least amount of talent
Starting point is 01:08:24 and you're maximizing it right it shouldn't like it's right i don't know so mark dagnaw from the thunders his turn for a runner to be coach of the year would you say that he deserves it for what he did with that squad year to year because you don't always have teams like okc that are good. But when you have those situations where you have teams like that, then yeah, that coach should absolutely be coach of the year. It should be like, you should be able to look at it
Starting point is 01:08:53 and say, alright, they were here and then they didn't add anybody. This is where they are. You get superstars on your team. But wouldn't you have an argument for the subtlest coach to be coach of the year? You know, they have the best record. They were number two last year, number one the year? You know, they had the best record, all that. They were number two last year,
Starting point is 01:09:07 number one the year before that, and then they just added two more stars. I was like, ah! How many different lineups did Miami have this year? They had a lot. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:09:14 They had a whole lot of lineups this year. Got two players in. But that's what I'm saying. So it's supposed to be like, yeah. But he's, like, never even in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:09:23 This year, if not, last year. Last year for sure. Made it to like, never been. He's never even in the conversation. Last year. Last year, for sure. Made it to the final. This. But he's never even in the conversations. Like.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Like, when his team was good, you say, nah, we're not going to give it to you guys. You got it wrong. You got it wrong. Okay. All right. There's none now. Right? You have Jimmy, and you do have a bunch of dudes that, like, come on. Now, last year definitely would have been a year for him to get it.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Well, maybe he'll need it. He'll need it. Max Drew, Steve Vincent. But you do need it for your resume. But we keep saying, like, he's the best coach in the league right now. He's one of the best coaches. He has probably, out of everyone, the least amount of talent on his team compared to the field that's actually in the playoffs playing very well.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. Right? He probably has the least across the board. And over the last few seasons, I would say. Like, if we're talking about the teams he has and their record and how far they make in the playoffs compared to other coaches with their talent. That's why I question stuff. I just question stuff a lot, and I do the research to try to figure out, like, how far is the player stock process from a voter's process? Like, you know, like, we can look at a player and say, all right, this is a defensive player of the year because of everything he's doing. Yeah, he might not have the blocks and stuff like that but he's he's preventing he's preventing a lot of baskets that is not accounted
Starting point is 01:10:51 for in stats right i'm getting ready to drop like with the luca thing right right luca is getting credited for the defense but you look at the back line you you got the guy at the elbow, you got this guy that's... So these guys are stopping him from taking off, right? So that's what you don't see in a defensive rating. Like when Kmart was in, and I'm getting ready to try to take Johnson, I see him back there like, nah, all right, God damn it. Pick and roll, and I see King, like, nah, let's go the other way. So, you know, there's these guys that's sitting
Starting point is 01:11:25 there. They're doing more preventive work. Right? The block shot is the block shot, but how many plays did he destroy? A writer wouldn't know that. They wouldn't know that he destroyed. We tried to do fours out strong, and Kenyon
Starting point is 01:11:41 already seen it and stopped it. That was the play we was trying to run. It was stop. That's a stop. We had to do something else. They don't count those. And obviously me, never played in the league, just square opinion, closer to the media. Does it seem like it would be harder to evaluate coaching compared to players?
Starting point is 01:11:57 Like I can watch an Embiid or I can watch a Joker and see how good he is on the court, but that coach might have had a hell of a game plan, but guys weren't making shots, guys were having defensive matches. He don't understand basketball. You know what I mean? It just feels have had a hell of a game plan, but guys weren't making shots, guys were having defensive matches. He don't understand basketball. You know what I mean? It just feels like, from a writer or a media perspective, coaches are going to get a lot of credit when the team plays well, but they might not have had that much to do with it
Starting point is 01:12:15 versus what their talent looked like. Those adjustments from game to game can be so small, and if you don't really understand basketball, you won't even realize the adjustment that was made. I think good coaches, like, with the right amount of talent and basketball IQ from players, during the regular season, you can win games with pretty much any coach during the regular season with the right amount of talent the right amount of basketball IQ IQ from the players so it has nothing to do with the coaching not in the regular season okay damn that sucks I'm just saying you can throw anybody over there if you got guys
Starting point is 01:13:04 that give a fuck that know how to play, and the right amount of collective talent on one team, you're going to win 45, 50 games. Right? Mm-hmm. The other few games, end-of-game situations, yeah, you got a coach for that shit during the regular season that can go in and draw something up.
Starting point is 01:13:23 You need a bucket. Mm-hmm. But when you make your, when coaches, when they get down to it, when you're in the series and you got, make an adjustment from game to game or quarter to quarter or half to half, how is it then? And I think that's what you've been,
Starting point is 01:13:38 that's what you're judged on from us. From us, yeah, okay. From us, that's what you're judged on. We know we're doing a regular season, man. We know if a guy get hot, it ain't hard to fucking keep giving Gilbert a goddamn ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? He's averaging fucking 29. Guess what? He can score. Guess what we're going to do?
Starting point is 01:13:54 My playbook going to have 75% plays for Gilbert. That ain't hard to do during the regular season. It's not. Carmelo Anthony is a prolific scorer. You go on and on and on and on and on and on right? but When it get down to it, huh? When I how can I put? Gil in the situation when the team is focused in on him. How can I make his job easier during the playoff series? That's when coaching coming. That's when good coaching come into play. So, okay, so the regular season. So regular season is
Starting point is 01:14:30 players man. See so regular season are for us. So that's what so like if someone has a really talented team already, he should get less points for the talent that he has. Yeah, I think so. Okay. That's the kind of thing. Yeah, because, you know, for the most part, you know, it's... How does, like, managing egos come into play? Like I said, that's when the IQ of the player, so all that plays a factor in the player, right?
Starting point is 01:14:59 Mm-hmm. It matters, absolutely. But that's on the player, right? Mm-hmm. All right, I got Gil in here. So just his team. Gil, Antoine, Karan, right? Because do you think that some coaches have to do more work managing egos
Starting point is 01:15:17 so they don't necessarily have enough time to just focus on hoop shit versus you have a team that you have to manage more egos so you don't really have the same amount of time to focus on on hoop shit versus you have a team that you have to like manage more egos so you don't really have the same amount of time to focus on like real hoop shit where you have teams like okay but you have those conversations like if you if you're good at what you're doing right we've been in locker rooms like we we appreciate honesty we appreciate you being transparent coming to us what you expect. Do's, don'ts, good, bad. I'm going to let you have your freedom in this aspect. All I ask is this, this, this. Like, it don't take
Starting point is 01:15:52 much to have those. And you have the and you throw the same thing, you know, with the ego thing, right? We're all making money. We're all this. We're all. So what's important to you? Whose job is it in a locker room to like establish roles? Because I've struggled with that
Starting point is 01:16:07 on different teams. You have teams that... It's the players. It's the players. It's the locker rooms. It's our... What if someone's not happy with their role? Get out. What else do you do? What else do you do to help us? What is your role? What else do you do?
Starting point is 01:16:24 That should be the question. You've got to have that conversation. When does the coach ever What else do you do to help us? Like, what is your role? What else do you do? Right. That should be the question, right? But the player's got to have that conversation. Yes. And when does the coach ever step in for that? Let's say you're a shooter, right? Let's say you're a shooter, and you're just having a bad month, right? And then coach is like, ah, don't shoot no more.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Most of your players who know you practicing in your shadow are like, don't listen to him. We're going to keep looking for you. Right. That's a player thing, right? Because you're practicing around each shadow, like, don't listen to him. We're going to keep looking for you. Right. That's a player thing. Right? Because you're practicing around each other, we see each other's work ethic.
Starting point is 01:16:50 We establish what is really what. Right? So there's, you know, a coach can put you out there and say, all right, you're going to be the decoy or whatever, and the players might have a different decision. Yeah. Right? So a coach is going to veto a coaches' decisions for the most part anyway.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Just say like this on the play, right? We're running a pin down for you. We done ran this pin down a couple times. Gil got the ball. I'm coming to screen for you. Gil tell me. I know Coach called a pin down for Lex again, but I see the way they playing it slip.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Mm-hmm. Just him like, no, he ran the play for you you but what he see is what? Right. Yes. I see they did I see his big man is sitting there aging a little bit more early Go for the lob throw the lob next play run it now it comes for you. Now you're going to get the shot, right? But, yeah, he thought Coach might have knew what was right at the moment or thought he saw what was right, but we see it in real time. The same thing with the locker room. It's the same thing, but it has to be on that, right? And I think that all the teams I've been on,
Starting point is 01:18:01 that's been missing in our locker room. That open dialogue, just like about basketball shit. missing in our locker room. Mm-hmm. That open dialogue. Just like about, like, basketball shit. Y'all sensitive. You know, got it? Y'all sensitive. Yeah. Very.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Y'all women are built on emotion. So, question for all you guys. Coming up... I mean, no. I mean, I agree with you because I'm one of the... I will say I'm, like, one of the few players
Starting point is 01:18:20 that, like, lives, breathes hoop all the time. So, like... Why? Sometimes it's hard to have real who conversations Why what why you eating who did you grow up in house with yeah, but NBA player? We are like our locker room sounds like this. We are you Most of them girls So we do is argue he didn't probably before you suck
Starting point is 01:18:43 The Danny probably told you suck today, right and my mom what so you didn't right but you before, you suck today. Your dad probably told you you suck today, right? And my mom. So you didn't hurt her, right? But coming from him because he hooped, right? He had the highest level. For him to say it, you're like, damn. That's the first cut. Was I that bad?
Starting point is 01:18:58 Once you cover that up, it's over. Have you got the cuss out? I feel like that's the league dad thing. At some point. My dad is like, he's quiet, he's sweet. Okay feel like that's the league dad thing. At some point... My dad is like... He's quiet. He's sweet. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Usually, he's coming from my mom. Okay. But I know that she... Everything that she's saying is not from her brain all the time. He's probably like, The hooters. The hooters. He's a basketball.
Starting point is 01:19:19 It's too detailed about the game, right? You're like, Mama, you ain't never dropped in coverage. What the hell? Yeah, so sometimes delivery. You ain't never hit the pocket pass. We need my dad's words, but my mom's delivery. So they work together.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Players with NBA kids, though, they get that. Oh, I remember one time in high school. Oh, it's warm. We was playing a bad team. My mom cussed me out at halftime in front of the entire gym. Yeah. Because I wasn't playing well against the worst team in the region. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:19:49 I used to get mid-game cuss outs. Then as I got older, my dad would keep a big thing of keys in his hand. And, Jim, you just hear the keys drop. I knew he was pissed about something. He would stop yelling, but you just hear the... Your locker room probably is twice as big. Our locker room... Most of our stuff in our locker room, we're arguing about shit that ain't got nothing to do with us. That's us for an hour.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I mean, and that's what I want to change. Yeah, we did go practice, didn't go to lunch. Yeah, and that's what I want to change. Deal, all right, we're going to go to lunch. Because it's the first time I've been a vet in the locker room, and I want to change that. Yeah, because there were times in the seasons where we would come into halftime not playing well, and it's just dead quiet. Oh, no. And I'm just like.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Niggas don't care. You don't got nothing to say about anything. Like, sometimes last season, we would have, like, some healthy back and forth, but usually it's, like, the same two or three players. Yeah. And, I mean, when I got sick, I just started watching more and I was like oh nah like this gotta change what was the championship what was your
Starting point is 01:20:48 championship team like we talked a lot we had Candice in there okay like being Candice's teammate like
Starting point is 01:20:55 I learned so much just listening to her and game to game adjustments and half time adjustments just her and she encouraged
Starting point is 01:21:02 you know like a healthy dialogue it always didn't go well. But those conversations gotta happen. See, I'm a firm believer in put your feelings in your pocket. Yeah, I do. When you're in that locker room and you're playing sports, in general,
Starting point is 01:21:17 especially in the locker room, when you're dealing with other people and other, like, you gotta put your feelings in your pocket. Because we don't care about it Mm-hmm to what you said the other day don't give a fuck if you plan what I don't nobody care if you hurt But don't nobody care about your feelings in sports, right? at all
Starting point is 01:21:38 My wins and losses in today individual sport team, it's about wins and losses. Yeah. Your feelings don't come up on the stat sheet or at the end of it when it wins, losses, and Kenyon's feelings. Like, no. How did you feel, Kenyon?
Starting point is 01:21:54 How did you feel today? Who cares? Who cares that my child was in the hospital and I had to go from the hospital to the gym and back to the hospital
Starting point is 01:22:03 after the game? Don't nobody care. Did you come to play today? Do we win or do we lose? And that's all. And when we're in the locker room, it's the same shit. We might, we get more sympathy, empathy in those instances
Starting point is 01:22:15 with guys, but when it comes down to you doing your job and damn your feelings. Damn your feelings, because your boss, if you got a 9 to 5, your boss don't give a fuck if you upset when you get there. It's a job. Damn your feelings. Because your boss don't... If you got a nine to five, your boss don't give a fuck if you upset when you get there. It's really rare. You got a flat.
Starting point is 01:22:30 You got... Don't know... Did you do the work? Did you get there? Did you do the work? That's all that matter, man. Like, damn your feelings. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:37 But that's how it is. Like, when you're in the... In locker room, practice, and games, like, you test each other so much that the coach is irrelevant. Yeah. Right? You test each other in the locker room,
Starting point is 01:22:53 on the bus, on the plane. You hear, oh, he weak. You just, oh, he just let anybody get to him. You do that all day long because if you can get through the locker room, we're not worried about you in the game. See, if you can get through the locker room, we're not worried about you in the game. See, if you can't handle your locker room, you can't handle
Starting point is 01:23:10 me? How you gonna handle Kobe? I can't, I can't, what? You have to, like, that's why I said you have to stand on your own feet first and then from there, it's like, alright. You hear the Dante Jones story he told about us and playing Kobe?
Starting point is 01:23:27 Yeah. You do it to him or we're going to do it to you. Make us what it was. You fuck him up or we're going to fuck you up. That's a game. No, serious. I mean, that's how it got to be in the locker room. Because that's your matchup.
Starting point is 01:23:43 If you ain't going at him and you talking about oh you my favorite player you you sitting there giving him shots You don't want to hurt they sit there like we practice all this month like nah You better take this personal. Yeah, this is personal like we got you but Our locker rooms these locker room these days are different because the kid, they kid, they younger. It's just a different dynamic. You want to see a real locker room? Go right over to Playa Vista and fucking Clippers when they fucking move. You want to see a real locker room?
Starting point is 01:24:20 But they got a bunch of vets in that bitch. That's the real NBA locker room to this day. How it was, the band back and forth, they still doing it because they've been around. These younger teams don't have that.
Starting point is 01:24:35 They don't know. Well, they on their phones now. Yeah, everybody on their cell phone. They're in the locker room. Everybody got a... Social media, everybody dressing.
Starting point is 01:24:40 We ain't got no goddamn charging station in our locker. It's like a different conversation. These niggas are charging stations in their locker. Everybody doing TikToks. Checking phones station in our locker conversations even with the the draymond green thing right yes if like that you tweeting david stein's nba has that's how it that's how that's how the locker room look right you you have you have draymond green practicing pool wasn't practicing draymond green's getting off He didn't get off when Jordan Poo was talking shit He was getting off in practice
Starting point is 01:25:07 They were like where you at now That's how that started So he keeping the same energy from yesterday But he's balling now making shots And it's like where's that That's how it is And you're dealing with a nigga who Ain't rap type
Starting point is 01:25:23 There's a few of them And you be sitting there a nigga who ain't rap type. You know what I'm saying? There's a few of them, and you be sitting there a lot. Yeah, like, ain't rap type, right? It's a lot. Get to talk shit in practice, and you know, like, yeah, we... Like, God damn, bro. So, question for all y'all on the couch. I feel like coming up, we're always told to listen to the coach and follow coach instructions, youth ball, on to college.
Starting point is 01:25:42 And the pros, let's start with you, Brandon. When did you start feeling comfortable? Diverting away from what the coach was saying or you know challenging I guess They're coaching if you thought you had a better idea or you saw something that was different on the court Probably my freshman year in high school I was I was a freshman starting as a senior. I mean as varsity. Yeah at Dominguez You know, you know how that so yeah just I think just getting that ability to start in and like you know but yeah um
Starting point is 01:26:16 yeah just you know I always had an attitude though I always had it like I always had a bad attitude growing up like I was I was always feisty huh he said you don't say so I was I was a growing up. I was always feisty. He said, you don't see. I was a little hostile, so I would always talk back. I was always kind of a head case. But definitely that freshman year when I started as a freshman. Kind of a head case. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:37 I played for Huggs at Cincinnati. I imagine he wants things done his way or the highway. But at what point did you feel comfortable as a player? Like, my junior senior, but especially my senior at Cincinnati, like, I was, like, she'd be going a certain way in practice, like, I'd stop practice, like, hey, all right, now, bring it in, like, you deal with him, you deal with me. Bring it in. Bring it in. Bring it in. Like, a motherfucker, man, I bring me clothes, too, nigga.
Starting point is 01:27:05 I'm cut. Hey, man. Let's, hey. So by the time I'm like, I'm, we sit on this couch and people didn't heard the stories and certain things about me. Like, I, the younger me, oh, yeah. Ooh, hell. That 18 to 22-year-old boy, that was, they.
Starting point is 01:27:23 You know, we've seen the highlights your first year in the league, like, ooh, shit. Actually, that was my second year. That was my second year. I did. But, nah, it was, nah, then when I was, like, this is what leadership looks like, right? Things ain't going a certain way.
Starting point is 01:27:41 We need to play a certain way. Things need to be said. Coach, you see the frustration building within him, and before he blow his top, you take control of the situation. That's what leadership is, man. Or be the bad guy. You be the one to speak up. You be like, I didn't want you to. You ain't got to like me.
Starting point is 01:28:01 You ain't going to fucking be liking me if you're my teammate or not. I really could care less. You can't beat me. You don't work gotta like me. I don't give a fuck if you like me if you're my teammate or not. Like, I really could care less. You can't beat me. You don't work harder than me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You don't work harder than me.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Yeah. See, that was that, but then you can't beat me. You can't beat me. So that usually kind of is the deal. That usually is. That's the last. The big joker. Yeah, let this basketball shit move.
Starting point is 01:28:24 You got the little joker? I got the big joker. Yeah, that was my, and that's the way I carried it. Like, we're going to work hard, we're going to play hard, but we're going to do it, and then if we get down to it, we're going to come from the shoulders. And then give, how about yourself? Obviously, you're always kind of a free spirit, you know, do whatever
Starting point is 01:28:40 you want to do, but when in the league did you feel comfortable to question the coaches? You know, I never really, like, questioned it verbally. I just did it. Like, just did it. So, like, even in college, right, Lou Dolson, two guards back. Right? It was always two guards back, two guards back.
Starting point is 01:28:55 And I realized the guard that always guarded me never looked to rebound. So I'm just going to go offensive rebound. Back then, there was no offensive rebound for a year shooting guard. So all I said was like, yo, J guard, if he leaks out, you get him. I'll pick your man up. Right. So I'll just keep taking off, keep taking off. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And then eventually I started getting some of them. And then what he realized what I was doing was after I don't get it, I just pick up the point guard, pick him up, and then we'll switch into Weston. So he never really said anything about. But at first, he's like, no't get it. I just pick up the point guard pick him up and then we'll switch in this and it wasn't it So he's never really said anything about but that first is like no get back Then I just tell you to get back and get back your man's leaking out and then eventually he watched what we were doing And it was like what? Testaments a good coaching to Planned it to you probably would understand what we do we just yeah, but you know even if you would have explained it to them, you probably would have understood what we do. But you know, even if you tell a coach
Starting point is 01:29:48 that, nah, do it my way. Even in the pick and roll, when I first challenged Coach, I did the pick and roll, and then Eric Danpeer jumped out on me. Ooh, shit, wonderful flat. And then Coach was like, what are you doing? I'm getting ready to take the big man.
Starting point is 01:30:03 The big man on the dribble. You don't see the guard down there on the big man? Yeah. I got a mismatch, too. What am I going to do? I'm going to pass it to him. They're going to double. They're going to swing it, swing it, swing it. The guy can't even shoot over there, right?
Starting point is 01:30:17 And that's exactly what happened. Because remember, we used to put the bad shoot all the way in the corner. And that's what ended up happening. We did the play. Do it. They trapped it. Pass it, what ended up happening. We did the play, do it, they trapped it, pass it, pass it, break. Next time, pick and roll, they switch, ISO, dunked on them.
Starting point is 01:30:32 And then eventually it became a thing. I think for the most part, if it works, coaches adjust it. They adjust the play. It's all on the coach.
Starting point is 01:30:55 If the coach is stubborn in his own ways, but I guess at the end of the day, you know, just for just players themselves, I guess you got to earn that trust with your play, right? You know, once you earn it with your coach, they'll probably allow you a little bit more wiggle room. Yeah, with younger teams, I don't think they deserve that. Especially like these young NBA teams. No, it needs to be my way or the highway early on.
Starting point is 01:31:18 A little freedom offensively. More freedom offensively and defensively, but it needs to be certain. Did you start looking at your coaches differently once you started making more money than him? No. No. Okay. No. I still was a coach.
Starting point is 01:31:34 I didn't care in high school, so I didn't care then. I was the number one player. I never called him Coach Huggins. Yeah. No. He was always Huggins. He was always B. Scott. He was always L. Frank. It was Vinny. Yeah, yeah, yeah he was her who's always her Scott it was always L Frank. It was Vinny
Starting point is 01:31:52 Was Woody it was and I saw my fuck boy by his first name. Yeah head coach You always expected your coaches though. I always respected your coaches though. Well, I always want Coach is important to me like I'm not with the coach most people who don't like their coach Don't like to play book because the playbook ain't got nothing to do with them, right? Just like the coach. Yeah, we just don't like the coach Yeah, I mean it's hard and not like a coach in all the places for you 35 lobs and drops the key and I'm pretty sure he likes this coach Fuck about my coach. He could have called him. I mean, some coaches.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I still didn't like that motherfucker, man. Some coaches are weirdos. Yeah, some coaches are weirdos. Like the coaches that coach their sons? Mello averaged 28 regularly with George as the coach. Go ask him if he like him. Good play call, bitch ass. That was a good play, you bitch ass.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Let's get back to this Celtics heat real quick. So after the game, Jimmy Butler did a little trolling. So last season, after the Celtics were down 3-0 to Miami in the Eastern Conference Finals, Jalen Brown said, don't let us get one. Well, Jimmy put his Photoshop skills on display, recycling that quote with his face over it. He's the biggest troll in the entire list. And posting it on IG. I love when it's the janky Photoshop, too.
Starting point is 01:33:09 That lets you just know that he very well may have did it. Oh, my God. He should have used this year's. His emo? Yeah, he should have used that one. His bang. See? I don't.
Starting point is 01:33:21 Shit, that's. That's a bad troll when you think about it. Why, because they won one? No, because we know what happened to Jen and Brown. They didn't make it. Yeah, they lost. Yeah, they lost, so I was. So is he saying that they're going to lose two?
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying, that's why. Like, we know it's funny, but it's like, well, you beat them, so. I think in this situation, nobody expected them to win a game. I can understand what you beat them. I think in this situation, nobody expected them to win a game. I can understand what you're saying. It could have come back to burn him down the road, but he could have just been like, I didn't even play. Right. That's my best troll out there.
Starting point is 01:33:54 So do we think that he will win another game in this series? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. They might win the next one. Going home, that building go, hey, I understand he fans didn't show up to play a game. People complaining. They might win the next one. Going home, that building go, hey, I understand he fans didn't show up to play in-game.
Starting point is 01:34:07 People complaining. They pulling up to these games. They going to be in that jungle. Against that group. Against that group. Ross, Cali. Off that sauce. And it's going to be loud.
Starting point is 01:34:18 We're kind of leaving the day party. Leaving the day party. What? Leaving the day party. What type of day? Early May down there? Early May. What? Seems day? Early May down there. Early May.
Starting point is 01:34:26 What? Seems like a little more than liquor in Miami, but maybe that's just... They're going to be upset for it. NBA guys that's on vacation in the building. Hey, there's going to be a few guys that's been on vacation for a couple weeks now that's going to be in the building. They've seen some of that. Oh, yeah, because it is Boston coming into town, so there's going to be some names in
Starting point is 01:34:42 there. Yeah, there's going to be rocking. And as we know, Heat fans and players on a Friday Saturday White out or something that joint this white out. There will be a white out in my On a Saturday afternoon Who you get a night for them? Okay, either way it goes. That's it. Yeah Two o'clock they party To the club right there in the readers no snow in Miami with that doesn't stop from skiing
Starting point is 01:35:14 Let's move on they actually open that club up for the public They open it up for like Now yeah, you know this a two o'clock day party at the arena. Hell, man, I'm pretty sure. That motherfucker cracking up in there. I'm pretty sure. So let's move back to the Western Conference. Pelicans gave the Thunder a scare in Game 1,
Starting point is 01:35:35 but in Game 2, SGA and his young crew handled their business to take a 2-0 lead in the series. So SGA finished with 33 points, 5 assists, and 2 steals going 13 for 19 from the field, 3 for 5 from 3. What did you say? How many assists? 33 points, 5 assists, 2 steals. Just giving you the stats Gil. Okay? Just hosting. So after getting big-bodied by Valanchunas in the first few minutes of the game, Chet Holmgren responded with 15 points in the first quarter, dropping 26.7 rebounds in 2 blocks in the game.
Starting point is 01:36:02 And Jaylen Williams put up 21 points, 5 rebounds and two blocks in the game and Jalen Williams put up 21 points five rebounds and seven assists in the win the SGA Chet J-Dub trio combined for 80 of the Thunders 124 points
Starting point is 01:36:11 and yes Brandon Ingram and Chet weighed about 75 pounds Chet had like 20 in the first half huh
Starting point is 01:36:19 yeah he was he was doing his thing man yeah me and Chet have the same stat you said what I said they
Starting point is 01:36:24 they had a stat with me and Chad on it. Chad looking good in his red shirt rookie season. What a pro wants. What a pro needs. That commercial makes me giggle. They got to start running that, man. I don't even know what it's for. He can get buckets, dog.
Starting point is 01:36:38 No, no, he can't. Yo. With ease. Yeah, they're going to bring these broom out of these folks. Yeah, this is going to get ugly, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, this looks like the only sweep. I mean, only because no Zion, though.
Starting point is 01:36:53 If Zion played game one, they win that game. Yeah, I hope he's going to try to come back. So, like, with no Zion, like... I hope not, man. They don't really have a chance. There's no point. Just to win a game or two.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Hey, Willie Green, hey, Willie Green, if you're listening. You've seen the movie Celtic Pride. I think you better send a couple people to kidnap Lou Dort. So, let's talk Zion a little bit. According to reports... You got the five assists. That's what I said.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Look at that. What was he supposed to get? Five assists? Yeah there see how that's how underdog do you yeah they had a one for the half i'm all man i don't know screw me the last person i need a 5.5 assist he ended up getting that's what i said five you mean two he must have got three at the end of the game so let's talk about a little bit corner report zion thinks a playoff return is definitely realistic He will be reevaluated after game four and depending on how his rehab goes could be available I'm watching the game last night like after day four is gonna be reevaluate is like the whole team is Physical he sound like ice cube right there after you already in the sunny $15 million. I know you can't sign I'm just throwing out the 15 million
Starting point is 01:38:16 What I'm just saying that's the same thing yeah, I would be like Let it go no, that's when you offer she we have a former big three players in the room What do we what did y'all think about that 15 million? Alexis said that's gonna be honest fucking exit physical. Yeah, that's gonna be his reevaluation I'm gonna answer physical that shit gonna be open for is it over like hey man If we'd have made it the game five hours gonna play just our stage next series That's hamstring there's certain things you just don't play with master question. Yeah, yeah Hamstring your back. Yeah, hamstring cab abdominal. Yeah, you can just forget about it cuz they out in for so
Starting point is 01:39:00 As the other kids say park it. Yeah. Okay Hamstring That's way he plays? With that frame, yeah. That's what he needs. I told mine, I ain't even jump hard. Oh, big three. Lunge that ball. I ain't even get it.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Ah, yeah. Told my shit. Whoa, what is that? Young fellas, sit your ass down. Yeah, you can forget it. It's just one of those things, man. They have five dudes That's no matter who you cut off someone is stepping up and the fact that you know bi right now
Starting point is 01:39:32 You're the second best player in this In a series and you're not even a non-factor right now. Yeah, he's not look but new door is Lying his ass up what? That's what I'm saying. That's why you say you need to kidnap SGA or him. One of them, yeah, because, dude, Lou Dort is bothering the hell out of B.I. Yeah. B.I. is smooth. He's trying to find his rhythm. He said he's coming back and all that, but, no, Lou Dort got something to do with that.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Man, you know what I learned? Like, there's only a few players you see today that have, but what I was learning that what made, like, the Kobe's great, AI, T-Mac, they had different games for different type of people. They had different styles, right? You know, smaller guards, they played this way. Stronger guards, they played this way. Longer type of players, they played this way, right? You know, smaller guards, they play this way, stronger guards, they play this way, longer type of players, they play this way, right? And that's how they played the game. So they can be effective. They didn't have the same style against everybody, right? I think that's
Starting point is 01:40:35 what the game is like. Like when you see, you know, Shea, someone slower, he's going to back up and go, right? He has somebody smaller on him, he's going to be in a post with him. Right? So he has a different style for, you know, different defensive players. And another thing about this series, like I heard, I don't know who was doing the comments in the other game. It might have been Stan. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Well, neither. Oklahoma City hasn't changed their rotations. Right? Which is smart when you think about it. Oklahoma City hasn't changed their rotations, right? Which is smart when you think about it. We got in this position playing these guys all season, right? We're accustomed to playing this way, guys, playing certain minutes, rotations. I get you on the short and the road.
Starting point is 01:41:18 When you're not cutting time and you're in a game seven, but to win the series, you're in the game seven you yeah i but to win the series he's like shit these are 10 guys i've played all year long so got us the number one seed they're comfortable with it so why would i deviate from that and which i get it but if you've got guys who've been not as productive as my bench guys i understand coaches cutting the rotation all the way to eight guys, whatever it is, whatever you're going to play. Seven and a half guys. Yeah, seven and a half.
Starting point is 01:41:50 But, I mean, will that tighten up? I mean, y'all think they're going to sweep, will that tighten up as the... It depends on who they're playing. But is it, based on what I'm saying, is it good to get those guys experience now while you can? Because you might need them. Exactly. Might need them.
Starting point is 01:42:03 In this series? Who do you play next? They play the Clippers or Mavs? Mavs. They're going to play us Clippers. Us Clippers. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 01:42:11 So, let's talk a little thunder. After the game, Chet Holmgren let the basketball world know who the real MVP is. I got one more thing to say. He's too humble to say it, but this is the MVP right here. MVP of the league. I'm going to say it for him because he won't say it. But that's all I got. What a pro wants.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Post-game interviews. It's like a college team, man. They are literally a college team. That's how Rustin was too. Yeah, you're right. Thunder's players have been supporting each other in their on-court post-game interviews all season. It's been very refreshing to see this young crew. I mean, it's just obvious how much they enjoy playing with each other,
Starting point is 01:42:47 how much they like each other. So for you guys who've been on teams where guys don't maybe rock with each other, how cool is it to see a young squad like this riding for each other so tough? I love it. Yeah, you just brought up a good point. Yeah, we definitely probably will see them together more because, like you said, the money is. Yeah, because B said he's seen it before, right, with Russ.
Starting point is 01:43:07 With Russ and all. And I was like, well, this situation doesn't have enough money to go around. Wait, didn't they please for a next season? No, they had to put a handicap on it, right? There's like certain claws. Yeah, but they don't build. The way they move. Because Giddy, I mean, he's probably the cheapest.
Starting point is 01:43:24 He's probably the one. They get along better, too? They probably get along... Yeah, they probably get along... Better, right? Because I think it looks like the difference between this group and, let's say,
Starting point is 01:43:35 you're talking about three MVPs. Yeah, yeah. Right? But on that team, who else did they have? Number one, what I'm saying is you got three people who's moving like a Bugatti.
Starting point is 01:43:47 They got the engine, right? They just, they're just sitting there just trying to figure out when they need to go. One gets injured, the other one comes in. When the other one comes back, the other one's like, wait, hold on. I like the way I've been driving a little bit, boss. Let me go ahead and let me sit in the driver's seat a little bit more, right? And it seemed like that's what was happening there, that you had three dudes that young that was pushing, and they end up being MVP type of bodies. Here, you see one MVP.
Starting point is 01:44:18 You got Chet, who could possibly be, you know, that Jalen going to be a good number two, you know, number two guy, right? You know, when you've seen Russ and James, you're like, ah, damn, those are number one options, too, at some point in life. I feel like Russ used to get a lot of heat back in those days because he thought he was on Katie's level. He got the meme of him staring at the MVP trophy. Everybody used it. But that was kind of the discourse back then. But, you know, Russ might have been like, I'm the MVP too, so even, you know, just Noah Russ.
Starting point is 01:44:52 That's what's up, man. And he went on to win. And even Harnu was kind of like the third-wheeler, sixth man, who, you know, just from watching him and seeing him come up L.A., like, James was that dude. Like, yeah, I'm'm gonna go do my own teams and good good good defensive players smart strategy players when you're in the playoff with them they're gonna point it out man man they're icing you man i don't even think they like you
Starting point is 01:45:17 right now man you need to go ahead and get the ball man there's your contract here man start doing that to the player boost his ego up a little bit Man give up be the worst to play. Don't that say come on key. That should be working dog He right. He right. He right. You ain't getting the ball in about six minutes. When people say what we want to hear, like, yeah, you know, give us that report. I would hate to play. I would listen to that man all season. Now you want to listen to him?
Starting point is 01:45:51 Leave me alone. Man, the playoffs, man, they say anything, dog. Hey, man, they say. They put the thought in your head, you start counting. Man, I ain't touch the ball in about six minutes. Yo, what do you think they need, OKC, to get over the hump, like to get past, like to compete with Denver experience just right years just
Starting point is 01:46:11 They got guys who are good extensions, but they got like I think 40 50 million in cap space a huge draft capital Sales so I if I'm them I'm not sitting there trying to look at the free agent marker you you you have problems Within that you probably don't see coming cuz you know Chet is gonna be Max mm-hmm, right, you know Jaylen is gonna be max and so you have any goodies I think up for an extent it is probably the cheapest one out of the group So you got to sit there and hold on to that money to see what you can really you can sit there and I mean, it's a good problem because
Starting point is 01:46:45 you got a lot of draft picks where you can sit there and maneuver. And can get some more with the pieces you have on your roster. Yeah. And you can get some more pieces. Some more draft picks. You can upgrade and do a whole lot of stuff. Obviously, they have the potential and ability to be able to get a superstar, but Gil, you think
Starting point is 01:47:02 kind of ride out with this team or with one more... They have a superstar. They get a superstar, but Gil, you think kind of ride out with this team or with one more? They have a superstar. They have a superstar. You have Batman. You have Robin over there. You got a little Avengers team that you can possibly build. It's a little, you know, you got little babies.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Who's the general manager over there? It's Presti. Sam Presti. He's smart as fuck, man. Yo, has he got awards? Does GMD have it? You got GMD here? No, I mean, He's been playing chess for a few seasons now. He's been over there since KD.
Starting point is 01:47:30 He's been playing chess since James Harden traded. He's been doing this shit since he traded James Harden. He should be... When you look at the people that came through, they've probably had in history, within the last 10 years, the best small forward and shooting guards that came. Melo, PG, them motherfuckers done came through that. You're like, man, what are they?
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yes. No, seriously. They know what they're looking for. That GM needs to talk about him more. But does it feel like this team, I'm not even saying a superstar, but the youth is going to be the thing, especially if they don't win a chip this year, that people are going to talk about guys that have that championship level
Starting point is 01:48:13 experiences to be able to come in, willing to take a backseat, come off the bench. Like, say, just hypothetically, a guy like a Clay or somebody like that. I don't know. Do you bring a, I mean, see, they don't look like they're a troubled team to bring a vet About the troubled team it's about what what we feel we could use right and to your point Who is they knock down shooters like they've been missing? So I'm glad you said that
Starting point is 01:48:45 just down shooter. They've been missing all year. So, I'm glad you said that. Upgrade shooting guard? Just somebody that should defend, not just, like, because that's Jay going to find, like, he'll playmaker, right? I'm just saying. They got, like, who is, like, just a... They got Dora, I mean...
Starting point is 01:48:58 Gordon. Don't Gordon. Gordon will be a free agent next year. But they got him over there for it. Yeah. I mean, they've been talking about that all season, that they don't have, like, a shooter.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Yeah, just somebody who that. And it's not a guy, hey, I need to start, I need to play. I just want to be on a winning franchise. I may be unhappy with how things are going with another team I'm playing on and getting funny style. I've already got several rings, so I'm not really tripping on that. You know what the problem is, though, too, is the weakest link is Giddy for that group.
Starting point is 01:49:25 But the best attribute that he brings is he's kind of like the Draymond Green type of player, right? He can make a shot. But for the most part, he's making sure the ball gets from Shea to everybody else. Right? You know, Shea's making his passes, but he makes sure everyone else is, like, touching that. He's like their glue. Yeah. It's like they're glue. Yeah, he's like their glue guy. He's very important to that team.
Starting point is 01:49:50 But for winning culturally, I think Klay will make sense. Klay. He's been a winner. He's a winner. Would he be happy to come off the bench, though? Shit, just to be out of that. Shit, for that back, for that money. But I don't see that.
Starting point is 01:50:03 But they can pay him a little bit more. Right. I'm just thinking just if we... It's a good problem. If they thought they needed to add a piece or two, he wouldn't
Starting point is 01:50:15 be a bad add. But they got a great young core that's only getting better. Should have multiple all-stars next year other than Shea. They're a force to be reckoned with for the foreseeable future.
Starting point is 01:50:34 They might have a better chance of winning it. Out of all the young teams, man, they're the only ones that when you just watch them, they have this weird dominance to them. Right? It's just they have this weird, like, they be dominating, and they don't even look like it. You know who they shoot is?
Starting point is 01:50:55 The Joe kid. Isaiah Joe. Isaiah Joe. That's their shooter. Oh, yeah, he can put that in there. Yeah, that's their shooter. And, like, we're saying. And he's young.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Yeah. That's what I'm saying. He's really young. So, yes. It's a great problem to have. We don't need it, but hell, we can round out 9th, 10th, 11th spot on the bench. Go bring Steven Adams back.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Go get me a bruiser and a rebounder that can deal with Bigfella. And... Let's line it up. That's not a bad situation right now. That's not a bad situation. Steven Adams back. And you don't have no money problems right now,
Starting point is 01:51:27 so you really got a lot of flexibility. They need someone to handle your case. That's it. Steven Adams in the back. It's a great problem to have. Check that to foe. Woo. Check that to foe, Steve, when you need it.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Because you can play big. Yeah, because you can play big. Play them together. Just in case you need to play big, you can, yeah. Play them together. What do I know? I don't know shit about this game, man. I just sit on this couch.
Starting point is 01:51:49 They need someone to rough yoke each other. No, they do now. That's it. But that's how it is. Like, you're building, like, a team like that. That's how everyone started building their teams to be Golden State. That's how a team is. You're building it.
Starting point is 01:51:59 We don't want to call them a dynasty, but when you look at a team and the league that you're excited about that can now compete with Denver in the West, we talk about the Timberwolves, we talk about the Thunder. I think we felt like coming into the playoffs, both those squads, young, not having the experience, but just watching these Thunder and watching the Wolves, it's like, eh. Like when you take two young teams, right, you say, all right, OKC, then you say, all right, like Miami. Do you see the difference on how, like, Magic probably have just as much talent or a little bit more,
Starting point is 01:52:28 but, like, I don't think, was it Paulo? Manchero is not at that dominant stage yet, right? He's still learning how to really play the game. Like, people don't realize Shea is, what, 25, 26? 25. Right? So, you know, Man Ben Cheryl is still young he still need to really understand What he is and how he's gonna dominate this game, but for the most part
Starting point is 01:52:51 They probably have a little bit more talent But you can see the difference on when these guys know how to play with each other how it looks That's a big-ass kid Yeah Look that he looked like a big ass kid man. Second year, first time All-Star. I remember watching him at Duke Final Four. But he looked like a beast. But seeing him in real life, but just seeing him on the court precision passes like six times like this dude is. What they got him listed
Starting point is 01:53:19 at? About 6'8"? I think he's like 6'9", 6'10". Let me double check. If you're the Clippers, you still make that move like you still trade Shay Sorry Yeah, it was one of those you had to at the time He was Who PG was at the time, you had to. Yeah, but I don't think he would have been. I don't think we'd get that trade on either side. He wouldn't be an MVP conversation.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I hear you, but at the time. Coach of the year? He wouldn't be in MVP conversations right now if he stayed. It would have been too much loaded. Hell no. And just to point out, Sam Presti has never won any Executive of the Year awards. Oh, damn. We owe for two. Give him a lifetime achievement. That's of the Year awards. Oh, man. We owe for two.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Give him a lifetime achievement. That's what I'm saying. He deserves one. The radar, people. MS folks. Because, you know, Doc Rivers is the best coach in basketball. Because he's won. He's won Coach of the Year.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Here we go. Right? You know what I mean? Here we go. And he said it. He told Kawhi. He told Kawhi, I don't think we should get, I think you should give Shea a try. And Kawhi.
Starting point is 01:54:28 What are you saying? No, I want Paul George. Okay, and look where they're at. They about to lose. You know, I just want you to know that Coach Doc is the one who's seen it first. That said that SGA was it. Yeah. I mean, I saw it.
Starting point is 01:54:42 I mean, I saw it when he was there. Yeah, he said SGA is it. You know, give him a it. Yeah. I mean, I saw it. I mean, I saw it when he was there. Yeah, he said, SGA is it. You know, give him a try. No. Nothing else. We think a sweep is coming. We think the Pelicans at least still won maybe.
Starting point is 01:54:55 No. No, it's over. No, it's over. But you seen the way them boys defending? Yeah, they out there defending. They defended.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Like, they and them boys Jersey, man. Yeah, for sure. Like, no movement is free out there. Like, defending. They and them boys jersey, man. Yeah, for sure. No movement is free out there. They are in them boys way. They switching everything playing. Just what's up? They making Valatrunas work for everything.
Starting point is 01:55:17 He the big one. They making him work. And tried to move, block that shit straight up. Yeah, block that shit. Like, okay. Yeah. Yeah block that shit like okay. Oh, yeah Got you CJ got to work so hard on both ends of the floor So the shot off on one hand and you gotta go that people don't yeah, that's what that's right there That's a bad matchup for CJ because you got a guard him You got to take your energy guarding him and you got to try to score sure good luck on that
Starting point is 01:55:47 Yeah, cuz everybody else out there motherfuckers six nine That's the only person you can go out there business today bring So just to look ahead y'all think the Thunder gonna sweep they'd be facing either the Clippers or Mavs in the next round Who is the better matchup for the Thunder the the Clippers or the Mavs? Either one. I think Mavs. Mavs. It's a better matchup for them. Just because you really only have to deal with two juggernauts versus four who can sit there. When you're in the playoffs, man,
Starting point is 01:56:28 you want to try to account for the possibilities. Like, okay, okay, Luka can have 40. Shaqiri can have 40. Tim, best case scenario with these two, he's going to give you 20. You can account for it. James Harden going down or he ain't playing well and Russell coming off and having a triple-double. Ah, fuck, we didn't account for this, right?
Starting point is 01:56:46 There's too many possibilities with the Clippers team that can just... Yeah, that's true. You got four guys who can just dominate by themselves. And that's the problem with the Clippers. And that's why you don't want to face them in the playoffs. Because your great defense get offset by one of them just having a fucking amazing night. And that can't happen. You got a triple-double sitting on the bench.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Like, nah. Paul George got 37. Huh? Paul George, 37. Yeah, that's... Yeah. Then Thunder get past the Clippers or Mavs. They're facing the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals.
Starting point is 01:57:20 How do we think? I mean, the way it looked like it man it looked like Lakers and OKC but I just think they're going to have to play a little rubbish game I mean as it's
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Starting point is 01:57:45 I think the Nuggets probably smacked them, but it'll be a learning lesson for them looking ahead to the future. Smack what? Wait, wait, wait. You said Thunder and Denver? Yeah, if they meet up in the Western Conference. You think Denver would beat OKC?
Starting point is 01:57:59 Yeah. What's so funny is that... I mean, you think OKC would beat the Clippers? I'm saying if they did. No, we didn't say that. I mean, that's just a better No, that's why I said they'd rather have play against Dallas. Oh, is that everybody's Dallas? Yeah, I mean Dallas That's going Exciting I think coming into these playoffs
Starting point is 01:58:22 I said people were down on the Thunder but thought they were were too young and inexperienced to really do something. They've gotten a favorable... That's what I said. They played against the right team. Exactly. They got a favorable draw in this postseason. Based on how things panned out. I can't believe Sacramento lost.
Starting point is 01:58:34 If they would have ended up... I still can't believe Sacramento lost. Is that a better... That would have been a better... That's boring. I mean, I'm rooting for OKC, so I'm glad that they're playing the Pelicans, but I really thought Sacramento would have it. And we felt like the Kings would have gotten the Thunder. Cleveland Magic? Yeah, nobody watching that.
Starting point is 01:58:50 Yeah, nobody watching that. What, Cavs Magic? Yeah. Because that looks like a blowout, too. I saw some highlights. I was like, eh. Yeah, there's some babies. If we were playing game three on the road, then I'd be able to tell you. If we were playing at home. Orlando Young.
Starting point is 01:59:07 I don't, I've never been there, so. Let's go back to your other favorite team, the Milwaukee Bucks. Doc Rivers, your favorite head coach. But Pacers perspective. So after the Pacers game two win over the Bucks, Tyrese Halliburton was asked about his expectations for the crowd in game three and took the opportunity to throw a little shade
Starting point is 01:59:21 at Bucks fans. Yeah, I'm expecting it to be unbelievable. You know, not, no doubt about that. I mean, we've had regular season crowds better than what we've played in these last two games, you know. So we expect a great crowd. A lot of people are excited about what's to come, you know, in the series. And, you know, just the energy in the city right now with everything
Starting point is 01:59:40 that's going on, especially with us. I mean, you know, we're excited to, you know, to go. So, yeah, we will talk about everything, the elephant in the room in a second, but Haliburton, who's a native of Oshkosh, Wisconsin, which is about 90 minutes away from Milwaukee, also talked about a situation that went down with his brother and a Bucs fan during game one.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Hold on, let me just, okay, go ahead, play it. Play it. I have a question related to it. My little brother in the stands me just, okay, go ahead, play it. Play it. I have a question related to it. My little brother in the stands the other day was, you know, called the N-word. And so, like,
Starting point is 02:00:11 it was important for us as a family, like, to just address that. And that was important for us to talk about because I just didn't, I didn't sit right with anybody in our,
Starting point is 02:00:22 you know, in our family. And so, it's just been important to have my family here right now. And my little brother's handled that the right way. So, yeah, I thought we just did a good job of handling this environment. Obviously, the conversations, it's friendly during the regular season because I'm the hometown kid. But it's a little different when you're visiting in this environment.
Starting point is 02:00:40 But it's all part of it. We're just trying to do right by that, and we're just excited to go in front of our fans and play in front of a great crowd. Okay. So I know what y'all want to talk about. No, real? He black?
Starting point is 02:00:56 Hold on. Come on, Brandon. First of all, that jean jacket was trash. Talking. That's fine. I'm just was trash spread talking He talking about like like my the n-word like I mean I know they are You know heart too hard to guard everything. Can I can I just can I say please addressing? Leave your family at home for old playoff games. Let's start there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:25 Leave them at home. Mm-hmm. Leave them at home doing role playoff games. If you want them there, get a sweep. Yep. Right? No, I didn't. Spend your money, get a sweep.
Starting point is 02:01:42 He got it. Pfizer Forum has lovely sweeps. He got it. Pfizer Forum has love. Right? He got it. You're in hostile territory during the playoffs. Right? Mm-hmm. They don't want you there. They don't want you there.
Starting point is 02:01:57 No, you're taking up a seat for a home fan. Uh-huh. Somebody that was cheering for us could have been sitting in that seat. Mm-hmm. You're in word. Yeah. Boy. Boy. I'm just saying, dog.
Starting point is 02:02:09 People be surprised when stuff happens to road fans on the road. No. Leave them at home. Get a suite. Get a suite. Get a suite. If you want your family there to support you, I'm all for it. Yes, have there get a sweet
Starting point is 02:02:26 Right and we're all y'all wanna bring in where does that jeans jacket had on was trash? Oh y'all want to have If we're on the team together racial slur we're on the team together us three on the team together We were upstairs. You want your people come all my people come you want your people to come. All my people to come. You want your people to come. Get a suite. We're going to share a suite. You see how easy that is, Lex? They're going to charge you a lot, right? They're going to make it hard for you, all right? But I can tell you this. Good luck
Starting point is 02:02:55 game five. What? Oh, that's a bet. You think that was bad? You think that N-word, that was bad? Win game five. was bad When game five Five now this is the can't this is the play like they don't want you to win. They don't We were a little brother. No, I don't know. I hope it's not a true in Boston I mean it shouldn't be anybody but if it's a child this public
Starting point is 02:03:21 Angus to follow the record. Okay. No, no, that ain't saying that I was... No, no, no. We're in Boston. I'm with the Nets. After J.K. had this situation there, like the little domestic thing was going on. The fans, it was a row of them. She was at the game. It was a row of them with wife beaters on, with five on it. Like, the coast of the city to where she was sitting up.
Starting point is 02:03:44 They don't... In Boston, they... Yeah, Boston. Leave your people... Game five on it. Like, the coast of the city to where she was sitting up. Date on. In Boston. Date on. Yeah, Boston. Leave your people. And I'm thinking it in real time. Like, why is she here? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Not here. You know, he's seeing it. It's just. Yeah, leave your family at home. If you want them there, get a suite. That's all. They're crazy. But let's talk.
Starting point is 02:04:03 We played in Cleveland. He's done game five. No, what I'm saying is we played i played in cleveland in the playoffs we couldn't even go into the you know how that's the the was that the mall no no no it was none of that because you know uh it's connected the sean was calling uh uh was theBron overrated? Oh, yeah. He couldn't walk around that mall. Anybody who, like, they wouldn't serve him food, none of that. Oh, LeBron's overrated? Well, shh, shh. Not even the Forever 21
Starting point is 02:04:33 good? No, he couldn't get nothing in the mall. None that they wasn't serving him in the mall. The people in the mall, like, yo, would you say that right now? No samples? No. The signs? Have you ever you say that right now? No samples? No. And you, the signs? Have you ever been to that Cleveland Mall?
Starting point is 02:04:48 The signs that they had for them? It was like, this was a rap battle. This was like, this was a rap battle. Like, they dug into the life, and they got signs of it. We sitting there tapping each other like, yo, yo, yo, look at that. Oh, no, they didn't. Yeah. Like, you just sitting there yo yo look at that. Oh, no, they didn't yeah Like you just sit in like no no, they're foul. No, no, they try to
Starting point is 02:05:09 Watch what they let me in the game Regular see how playoff let it all in. That's all game five game five. Oh man. Good luck. Good luck with him They don't have the music TV, man. I'm gonna be right there Boy, they gonna say boy. They gonna rip. They're trying to win the game man. They'll give Brandon would you like Holly's jean jacket better if he played for the Bucks? No, that's his trash two-tone, you got to... We have a two-toed G-jacket in the building right now. So, first of all, Dominicans, this is personal. No, it's not. And that is the two-toed G-jacket.
Starting point is 02:05:50 My dab jacket is flying. No, first of all, I'm just mad at the fact that he was changing his voice like Drake. This is crazy. You know, Drake was Canadian, then he was Jamaican, then it was combination. Two direct shots. Like, what are we doing? What do you mean, I like the G-jacket? My bad, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:06:04 We like the G-jacket. No, I'm sorry. No, I'm not sorry. No, I like your G-jacket. It's clearly not personal. Like what do we do? No, I like this really not personal right now, but here's look like a trench coat It's look like it was two-tone with trench like all the way down like where you find that at what's going on here Let's get back. Oh, Steve's my guy To the elephant in the room obviously having anybody your family call the N-word is a very serious situation. What, a naysayer? A naysayer. A naysayer, no. But how hard is it to take anything that Halle says seriously
Starting point is 02:06:33 when his voice is changing like that? Because I want to be like, damn, that's messed up. And then it's like, wait, damn, dog. It sounded like it also got sped up. It was like someone like... He said he doesn't notice it when he does it, when he's talking, but when he goes back and listens to podcasts
Starting point is 02:06:46 or interviews, he's crazy. Come on, man. Where's he from? Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Yeah, so he has to jump from black to white real quick. He got to jump from... Yeah, so he's coming in class. He got to put on his white voice, and that's what it's...
Starting point is 02:07:02 It seems like he's been trained to do it, and he doesn't notice he does it. I don't think it's been trained to do it. He doesn't notice he does it All right. I don't think Never the longer he talking never weird like dies out. Yeah does that And then he recharges and comes back. What? He recharges and it comes back. Put the battery in. You're back. Hey, yeah, so back to what I was saying. You know, when Cat does his little deep voice. It's like the old school thing they used to have in the hospital in the movies.
Starting point is 02:07:41 No, the oxygen thing when you go to the bottom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spent in the movies the no the oxygen thing when I go to the bottom We stood the air balloons, yeah Yeah, this means war has it but back to the serious part of this conversation someone else does that someone else does that. What's the rapper? DDG, is that him? Who? The rapper called DDG? Yeah. He has a real actual deep voice and then to talk in public he uses...
Starting point is 02:08:10 He had a lick. Yo, your voice just changed a little bit. Public voice? Yo, he had a lick. Pat does it too.
Starting point is 02:08:14 Huh? Carl Anthony Towns does it too. He does? He know well. For sure. I'm going to start doing it. For sure.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Hey, how you doing? For sure. For sure, it's crazy. For sure. I'm how you doing? For sure. For sure. It's crazy. For sure. I'll still just randomly blame you. That interview post-game was funny.
Starting point is 02:08:31 That's the interview, man. That's the interview. That's the interview voice. That's all. Has anybody ever disrespected your family at a game before? Does that mean yes? I don't know if they, no, I can't say not in the game because they only came to five games. But, yeah, I got the heat for the situations that they was doing.
Starting point is 02:09:04 I had to just say that they was out there having fun uh-huh I had to hear about it in the game so yeah what were they doing if you don't mind sharing on gills arena presented by underdog fantasy I mean Indiana was I mean since you know he is in Indiana and that's where the rumor broke you know I mean, you had t-shirts of Shaquille O'Neal. Oh, you already told that. Hey, nigga, you don't even play for this team. Oh, you already told that.
Starting point is 02:09:30 The free throw story? Yeah, you already told that. Hey, what's happening? Don't get no worse than that. You ever had an issue with anybody disrespecting your family? Like, on the, like, far as... Like, at a game or a fan or something, you had to... Oh, yeah, you know, I told you about...
Starting point is 02:09:48 Through the Cubans. Yeah, Mark Cuban said something to my mom. Other situations, yeah, when I was in college, we was playing University of Houston. You know, people drove down from Dallas and the niggas in the stands wanted to start talking shit. And they stand, you know, and got to pause the game. Damn, what's going on up there?
Starting point is 02:10:10 But, no, in the league, no, people, no, they... I think my family really... The only game, role game that my family really came to was the Dallas game when I was a pro. OK. Um... Home games, no playoff games. Like I was saying, no, we're not putting nobody in that situation. That road is rough. And the playoffs, man.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Yeah, but the Lakers fans, we went into like, family was at the finals. They go to the Lakers. Yeah, Lakers fans are different. They go to the San Antonio games. They got most sense. They got Lakers fans. You can go to the Lakers. Yeah, they go to the Lakers. They go to San Antonio. They got most sense. They got Lakers fans. You can go to a San Antonio game. You can go to a Lakers game. Like, they fans, like, you can go to them games. They cool.
Starting point is 02:10:54 But who's got the worst thing to do? Boston. Your city's worst thing to do. Oh, Boston. Boston worst thing? I've heard nothing but horrible things. Utah's bad in the playoffs. Utah's bad.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Utah's bad in the playoffs. Cleveland's bad in the playoffs. Cleveland's bad in the playoffs. Boston's bad in the playoffs. Inward, what makes the crowd bad? Oh, it just ain't nothing. Worse than that. They for their team, so that's why they don't care about you personally. Boston, they told Bill Russell you can watch out.
Starting point is 02:11:19 They did smear doodle on Bill Russell's wall, and these were his home fans. I got called to inward with a dude wearing a Paul Pierce jersey. Bro, you... He said, bro... I don't say Larry Bird in the back, I say Paul Pierce. It was the same gentleman from our first ever live show at the El Rey Theatre in Hollywood. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I do remember you.
Starting point is 02:11:44 With a Paul Pierce jersey, like, Paul Pierce on the back of your jersey. Soap. You know the soap. He's not one of them. Yeah, he's not one of them. I didn't answer that for you. Yeah, he's not one of them. He plays for the home team.
Starting point is 02:11:57 So, Boston, Utah, you said Cleveland. Sacramento is not the N word. They just don't like warrior fans right so you know they used to like when when i played there they were the dominant team right so when when we got there used to be dollar beer night they had to cut that shit out so dollar beer so yeah so you know about the end of the first quarter, the whole arena drunk. Drunk off beer. Yeah, so, you know, anybody that had a, like, Golden State Warrior jersey basically got their ass whooped.
Starting point is 02:12:31 Literally. Literally. It was foot to ass. Like, you think Yokish Brother was the – everybody was getting the Yokish Brother treatment. That's right. They was whooping ass with that jersey on. You could see him in the middle
Starting point is 02:12:45 Just taking it all just just go ahead took mine in Yeah, doing the regular season fans on a Play out And what's the best road atmosphere for y'all to play and work? I like playing the road playoffs Give me that New York seems seems rough in the playoffs, because it seems like them motherfuckers unite. I just thought about it.
Starting point is 02:13:09 It seems like they unite in the playoffs, because regular season, they... Yeah, they frat you during the regular season. Yeah, they frat, yeah. In the playoffs, it seems like that's a rough... So you said regular season, if you're having a good game on an opposing team, they might start cheering for you.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Come playoffs. Playoffs. Like, what they did to Trae Young, like, ooh. Still to this day. Man, listen, that lollipop on that carpet was probably the funniest. That's probably the funniest meme I've ever seen in my life. We got to ask Trey about that movie interview, but for me, it was like, I was a good guy. I played against Boston in the playoffs when they had IT with the Wizards.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Oh, yeah, you was in that series. IT was, whew, it was crazy. That was some good back and forth. Some arenas, man, when that crowd stick together, it's together. Yeah. And good luck.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Besides the Lakers, it's just... And you guys have shared your own personal... We Hollywood over there. They too cool. It's funny, like, Lakers, they advance in the playoffs, the tickets get more expensive, and then the crowd gets... Like, more cool. It's funny, like, Lakers, they advance in the playoffs, the tickets get more expensive, and then the crowd gets worse. They get more gentle.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I was like, what's going on in here? Yeah, because only certain people can afford them. They priced out the room. They made the people that's going to be there churn. Yeah, that's what they said. It's $2,200. They ain't churn no free throws. $2,200.
Starting point is 02:14:21 That's why I was the same way that section. Everybody up there. And theippers, baby. That doesn't happen. channel for those 2200 everybody up section everybody up there 2200 in the uh regular season for that front row playoff 35 000 like yeah ain't no basketball game that good worth watching maybe kobe's last game but other than that ain't nothing worth 35 racks all right so you guys have talked about your own personal experiences but what's the wildest thing you've heard a fan say to one of your teammates during a game? And they ever made you crack up with how they were climbing somebody else?
Starting point is 02:14:54 A fan? Oh, I'm pretty sure that was some shit. I mean, yeah. Fans are creative, man. Like, they're creative, man. Yeah, with the Knicks? I know they was on Joe Kim Noah Head in New York when he got that money. He wasn't playing well.
Starting point is 02:15:08 Should have gave it to me. I think the craziest thing I seen, though, was when Charles Oakley was knocking out the security guards. I was there. Are you at the game? Yeah, I was at the game. I was watching Charles Oakley just get down and knock out everybody. Why you didn't help him?
Starting point is 02:15:24 No, I'm just playing. I mean, man, if you would have seen Oak and how many people had to carry Oak up out there? That's one of those ones you get involved, he might accidentally swing on you thinking. You remember in Golden State, they had the two brothers that set it, like Courtside. It was on Golden State side, right?
Starting point is 02:15:43 So we were playing Magic with Sean Kemp. And Sean came back to the free throw line, quiet. They see it. You used to be the rain man. Now you're just a big puddle of water. I was like, yo. Yeah, they fucking. They're creative.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Much like our chat, very mean spirited. College fans though. College fans are insane. Yeah. Much like our chat, very mean-spirited. College fans, though. College fans are insane. Yeah. They rolled college fans. Duke-UMC games. I got a buddy who tells a story about a player from a team. I'm not going to say names, but he got catfished
Starting point is 02:16:18 by the opposing team's fans. So it's like a Facebook relationship or something. Pulled out to the game, they... Wait, wait, wait. It was this girl that he thought? Yeah, like... That's very... It was a very dedicated, deliberate... Attack.
Starting point is 02:16:32 It was, you know, very strategic attack. Wow. Facebook was still kind of new at that point, so, you know. All right. What's his name? For those that don't remember. Yeah. I can't fit somebody in the big three.
Starting point is 02:16:42 You did? Story time came. You can't say somebody in the big three. You did? Story time came. You can't say that? What? Make it. I can't say it. I don't want to get the person in trouble. Well, I don't want to embarrass her.
Starting point is 02:16:55 I'll tell you all fair, though. Remind me, please. Catfishing someone is diabolical. I don't need names, but what was the motivation? Boy, what was the motivation? No, just teach somebody to quit being thirsty. Quit being thirsty, right? Okay, that's a little more commendable than just being bored.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Quit being thirsty, my friend. Because some people just do that shit out of pure boredom. Oh, yeah, no, it was quit being like, quit being thirsty. Yeah, I can't wait to hear this story. An important lesson to learn. I'm going to bring cabbage. Oh, I can't wait to hear this story. An important lesson to learn. I've never been catfished. Oh, man. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:29 It was great. Getting catfished is ridiculous. You're still getting catfished. Actually, people are getting catfished by someone who's pretending to be me. Maybe asking people for money and shit. And they be sending it. Do they send you a cut of that? People keep messaging me or be like is this you is this no it's like y'all know this is not me
Starting point is 02:17:53 Why would I ask you for $1,500? There's a man harassing me under my pictures asking me for his money back. He sent somebody $1,500 almost fell into a nice little relationship because someone was catfishing so someone was pretending to be me hitting up a celebrity and they went back and forth for like a month and then the person hit me like yo have you been messaging me like nah and then there's a you know cuz I've been you know was a, oh, you know, because I've been, you know, this person did this. And, you know, I was getting ready to give them a number because they finally asked.
Starting point is 02:18:29 And so wait. So you've been talking to the person for a month, huh? So you was interested, huh? So you had no number? I'm talking no number is crazy. So you was interested. No number is crazy. No number?
Starting point is 02:18:43 No number or FaceTime after a few days You're not a real person. There's like you're not who you say you are Yeah, you was what's the name and there's like it didn't sound like you business like but you fuck all that So you've been talking to the person you thought it was me I don't know how to compete with a proud nobody Fuss hadn't. Yeah. Gil, please. Stop getting catfished in 2024. That was a great catfish, trust me. I'm never going to ask anybody for money. No catfish.
Starting point is 02:19:11 I was about to be in that relationship. No catfish, no catfish. Make sure you always get proof. Whoever that Gilbert was, you got good taste, boy. Whoever that Gilbert was, you got good taste, man. That was a good one. Well, now let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog Fantasy, as always.
Starting point is 02:19:29 Help us help you, ladies and gentlemen. Download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GIL, and they will match your first deposit up to $100. Still giving away a free pick-em right now. And like this couch said, do not get catfished. Ask for proof of life. Do background checks. Proof of life.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Verification. Newspaper. Hold the newspaper up. Look at that. Do not get catfish ask for proof of life do background checks proof of life very cake verification and hold the newspaper The show always an adventure This is the catfish person this person like yeah that thought they were talking to you. Definitely got good taste. Way to do your thing, Gilbert. I know. Way to do your thing, Gilbert. I accidentally closed the phone. You got to put the code back in, Gilbert.
Starting point is 02:20:12 But while you're doing that, let's get to our first question. From underdog user Capoduce. Which coach will be on the hot seat following a first-round exit? Darvin, yeah. What was the question? Which coach will be on the hot seat following a first round exit? Darvin Hill. What was the question? Which coach will be on the hot seat following a first round exit? Yeah. Darvin Hill.
Starting point is 02:20:31 Darvin pockets man. Yeah, Mr. Pockets. Unfortunate. Any other coaches in the mix? And first round. Maybe the I don't know if I would say Missoula but ain't no way the Celtics losing.
Starting point is 02:20:44 No, because Zion is yeah. Someone miss logo. maybe the I would say Missoula but ain't no way the Celtics losing no cuz yeah someone miss logo maybe someone mentioned if the Celtics lose that they might get rid of him but I'm like yeah yeah I could see that I think they're invested in I think they're giving but I just think if I just think just if the playoffs I mean even though that's what's the sad part is even though they're in seven spot it's like your job will still be on the line just because if They're just demoting back to assistant and brass Stevens to come down out the front office and do some hat Riley shit I think Doc's I think because
Starting point is 02:21:22 Yannis got injured doc kind of gets saved a little bit But I mean you paid a guy for three years I don't you look you look stupid as a franchise if they don't make it out of first round you fire That just looks bad just So do you come back with the same team next year if you guys don't get there? Who Boston if I'm them I'm gonna go after clay the Bucks I will go after clay really hard if I'm them, I'm going to go after Klay. The Bucks? I would go after Klay really hard if I'm the Bucks.
Starting point is 02:21:48 The Bucks. I mean, you know, you really have to factor in where Middleton is in his career and what he is. Because he's questionable for tonight. Yeah. He's questionable? You know, I saw him hurt. Yeah, see, so. He's questionable? You know, I saw him hurt. No, no, not Clay. I'm going after, I mean, I'm going after Clay because he's cheaper.
Starting point is 02:22:11 If I can go get Paul George and try to say, listen, if we get you here, we can win the championship. Damn, Giannis and PG. Giannis, PG. That would be my first option to try to win a championship. To save money, I'm going to try to win a championship to save money I'm gonna try to throw something that clay in that But those are the two guys I'm going after for my shooting guard, okay, which Let's move on to our next question
Starting point is 02:22:37 It's a video question from underdog user Real Hooper39. Is Kawhi and PG still the top perimeter defenders in the league right now? And if not, then who took their spot? Who was that in the back? Yeah, whoever in the back is scrolling through, pick an episode. Click them all. Open up 15 windows.
Starting point is 02:22:57 Click every episode on the front. He's back there talking to us and doing this at the same time. Pick an episode. He said Kawhi and PG. Yeah, he said, are Kawhi and PG still top perimeter defenders in the league right now? And if not, who took their spot? Ant-Man, for sure. I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 02:23:15 On the same team? Or is it a combination of both? Are we talking about a unit? Like a duo? Can we play the video one more time? I was too busy focusing on the back. I was assuming he was saying as a unit. Still the top perimeter defenders in the league right now.
Starting point is 02:23:28 And if not, then who took their spot? Oh, gotcha. So is he talking about them together or? No, no, no. He just said it. This is a separate. So, no, we got to go Ant. Ant-Man.
Starting point is 02:23:37 We got to go Ant-Man. I mean, Paul. I mean, Kawhi's still a hand. I mean, Kawhi's still a hand. To be honest, I don't know. D-Top. I mean, I don't know still a hell of a line. To be honest, I don't know. B-Top? I mean, I don't know if they're in the top. I mean, Jimmy Butler?
Starting point is 02:23:52 I don't know. I mean, I got an individual standalone. Yeah, like- When you see Ed, man, and Drew. I really like- I mean, Drew Holliday's not a wing. And Jay McDaniels. And Jay McDaniels.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Solid. Herb Jones herb Herbert Herbert Gilbert, I know but I was a nada. I was born I was born. She was good to Gilbert Herbert is born 98. He's there. He's there. You can call him Herbert. He's made it. And he's a junior. I don't think he's a junior, so that's like, whoa. Where did that name come from?
Starting point is 02:24:33 Where did you pull Herbert? That's your grandfather. Great-great-great-grandfather. Herbert. Herbert or Gilbert? You want to name a black man? But mine's in the 80s, right? This is 90s. You're wild, too, though.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I know. I could have been called Gilberto or Hippolyto. Gilberto. They could have added the O. I like Gilberto more than Gilbert. Gilberto Arenas? Gilberto Arenas killing in the NBA? Man, you let Gilberto kill you? I would have come out and thrown the O anyway. Arunas so myrtle arenas killing in the NBA
Starting point is 02:25:14 Trying to throw out the Bert to be honest you let Gilberto Gilberto with 30 Hippolyto bird are you old one? This what you had to pick from? Juan. Juan. W-A-N. Was it not? It was J-U-N. Yeah, nigga.
Starting point is 02:25:33 A million to one. Names, bro. Great movie. Names is these. As we mentioned at the top of the show, it's a sad day. Alexander what? For Gills Arena. Lexi Brown.
Starting point is 02:25:43 Off into the world. Getting ready for WNBA training camp. Yay. As far as career to start. Lexi, we appreciate you. Lexi's Arena was my favorite week this season. Mine too. The first time I ever really felt appreciated doing merely my hosting job.
Starting point is 02:25:58 So we got a present for you from the entire crew. More flowers. So thank you. Thanks. Aw. Woo. Thanks, guys. Any final four words, last thoughts as you leave us to go get ready for the WNBA season? Just watch.
Starting point is 02:26:15 Watch all the games that come on TV. Support everybody. And you guys are going to see that we can hoop. There's a lot of us that can go. So tune in it's gonna be a fun summer you said TV yeah there'll be a lot of TV games okay okay okay but if it's not on TV where do we find it so well if you're in LA it's gonna always be on TV okay here we go yeah yeah but for the people that's not get the app. Okay the WNBA app the WNBA app get that
Starting point is 02:26:48 Yeah, and send me put good vibes I've been sending me really good vibes chat sense of positivity They're gonna be at the games. We're gonna be at the games Again, who's game one against Atlanta Atlanta at home Mm-hmm. Yeah. At Long Beach State. At Long Beach State. Oh, yeah. At our temporary home.
Starting point is 02:27:08 We should wait till they get to the... That's what I said. I said y'all should pull up to... We're gonna hop in the new GMobile and we gonna pull up. Yeah. Yeah, we need to get a bus. Ooh. We need a Gills Arena bus.
Starting point is 02:27:17 Or a Sprinter. Tell me, a Gills Arena tour bus is fire. Sprinter. Sprinter. Yeah. Like a trailer, we can just turn into a barbecue thing. With a barbecue pit on the end of it. Turn into a barbecue pit and go down.
Starting point is 02:27:32 We should tailgate at the pyramid for the first game. Real college vibes. That would be fire. Real college vibes. Saturday, May 18th, you guys have a national game on ABC against the Aces as well in Vegas. Watch all the games. Here. It's at Vegas.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Oh, it's in Vegas? here here is that Vegas and what is that special announcement underdog fantasy will be flying us out to Las Vegas for that day great Vegas trip we will have an after party hell, hell yeah Josiah made a mistake you put him on the towers where you swear. Is there a better sweet side? I'm put me on the sky sweet. I'm on Sweet side, where is the sky? On a tower sweet side. I'm gonna go to? Encore when is that game? But then in the Cosmo, yes, thank you under dog We're coming to support you. We're just talking about when we're going to lay our hands. When we can say to get it right.
Starting point is 02:28:47 They're going to make us a party. But the combinations matter. The committees matter. Yeah, when we lay our hands. After the Sparks win post-game celebration at Delilah. You want us rested for the game. Yeah, well. Yeah. You want us rested for the game.
Starting point is 02:28:59 But, Lexi, we're going to miss you. We appreciate you for everything you do. We appreciate all y'all as well for pulling up, watching the show. It's been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We will see y'all Monday. I'm going to get kicked out for real. Thank you. so you

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