Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down Why The Mavs Can't Win With Luka

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down Why The Dallas Mavericks Can't Win With Luka Doncic as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Luka's 4th straight 30-Point Triple Double and analyze why the Mavericks a...re 1-3 in those games. They also detail a big game from Kevin Durant, who led the Phoenix Suns to a win over Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets, before discussing one of the most slept on and savvy young stars in the league in Houston's Alperen Sengun. Finally, they recap an exciting win for the Cleveland Cavs where Dean Wade EXPLODED in the 4th Quarter and debate if the Cavs deserve more respect in the NBA's Eastern Conference. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:07:27 Which Animal Are You Most Afraid Of 0:13:49 Gil's Dating Advice For Women 0:16:30 Cavs Upset The Celtics 0:23:12 Is It Time To Respect The Cavs? 0:33:33 KD Carries The Suns Over Denver 0:47:21 Sengun Is A Slept on Superstar 0:56:19 Mavs Can't Win With Luka 1:06:29 Does Luka Need To Worry About Defense 1:12:34 Rashad Calls Out JKidd For the Mavs Bad Defense 1:29:18 How Much Blame Does Luka Deserve If Mavs Miss Playoffs Again? 1:33:18 How Jimmy Butler Morphs Into Playoff Jimmy 1:44:02 Is It Smart To Pace Yourself Throughout The Season? 1:57:00 Zion "Commits" To The Dunk Contest 2:04:40 Zion's Love For The Game 2:10:40 Can Pelicans Win In The Playoffs? 2:19:23 MostlyFans 2:21:57 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:36 We are back on the couch. Gil decked out in the wizard's gear. I see you. I see you out here looking stylish. You feel me? Did you see, bro? Did they win some games? We did. Back then. We.
Starting point is 00:01:48 All that we. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Oh, shit. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, see, I flop. First time. Players fuck up. That fuck the first time in a Year and a half now the first time I don't heard it cuz y'all messing my mojo Gil got the nice watch on he said
Starting point is 00:02:13 We were supposed to get him. I think y'all got y'all's man Elijah got them shoes It's my first watch maybe Fire yeah, no, this is my first watch shout out to aura or baby for a sponsor. Yeah, we got we are getting sponsors But like I said before before I stumbled this is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy as always we got the legend Gilbert arenas here With us, baby Okay with them leather what you got? You know upgraded your whole style, bro. No stunning on us peasant.
Starting point is 00:02:47 We sound like we need to holler at underdog fans and see what's going down. We got Rashad McCants back here with us. What up? Stop judging my fits, man. I just wear t-shirts. What is that? What does it mean?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I don't hate LeBron. Oh, I don't hate LeBron. Okay. See I don't hate LeBron. Oh, I don't hate LeBron. Okay. See, no hate for LeBron. No, I don't. Rashawn has seen the light. He come back over. I'm just trying to get invited to some functions, man.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Hey, you already know. Me too. I get left out a lot. We got two-time NBA champion Norris Cole back here on the couch. It's good. It's good. Norris, the people love when you pull up, so we appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to pull up to the arena. So, before we start the show, Gil, we got to congratulate your son, Elijah, and his high school squad for their big win last night to reach the state championship game.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Later this week, shout out Chas Ward. He almost had a triple-double in the game. I watched the highlights last night on YouTube. Shout out Quick Hoops. I didn't watch it. You didn't watch any of it? No, my daughter played too. She played Etiwanda. This was her last high school game, so I had to be there for the...
Starting point is 00:03:55 two and a half hours. Where did they play at? Etiwanda. They've been in the IE. See, they gotta stop doing that like they get to play on their home court thing. Neutral sites for the championship. You gotta have somebody filming. Uh, like they get to play on their home court thing neutral sites for the champ You gotta have somebody filming It was watching it they see you as well. Yeah, I'm sorry a taupe. I'm sorry a taupe, you know Couldn't get in sold out they said yeah, they said but they'd close the doors at 645. Too many people. Where? At her house?
Starting point is 00:04:25 At Chatsworth. No, at Chatsworth. Yeah, it was. They said Matt Barnes, Nick had to sneak in the other way, and they still tried to kick him out. I seen Nick Young get into the game. It was like, nah, he's famous. To support his Cleveland squad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Took the L, and unfortunately, your daughter's squad, Sarah King, and they lost it at a one. Yeah, lost by three. But she got big things ahead. Yeah, it was a good game. Agent Shiro headed to Louisville Big things popping and it's a big night for you in the Washington DC area as we can see Big thing popping in DC biggest thing tonight Wizards are playing the magic tonight in the first 10,000 fans that pull up to the game will receive a custom
Starting point is 00:05:00 Agent zero hat that you designed yourself. You have the hat right here. Yes, baby I see I'll see look at you doing all the designs the fit the brands You saw them all you saw them all I have a society sign up a thousand of them you signed them. Yeah You know, you know, I got my signature on it, you know who doesn't have custom agent zero hats and Nobody on this staff on this couch. Mm-hmm. Got the hibachi underneath. Okay, I see you really doing it. We've been left out. You know, it's all good.
Starting point is 00:05:30 No, no, we're going to get ours. One for a flat. We'll clear out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Clear out. Yeah. Pass it to me. Shout out to all the fans
Starting point is 00:05:40 pulling over. There ain't no team hat. There ain't no team hat. This is a meet. Gil ran one for a flat with a custom hat. That's no team hat. This is a meeting. Gil ran one-fourth flat with a custom hat. That's a team hat. Clear out, clear out. But here's what we got cracking in the arena today.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Wimby may be the future of the league, but is he even the best big man in Texas? Alperin Shangun has some thoughts. Luka dropped his fourth straight 30-point triple-double, but the Mavs are 1-3 in those games. But how much blame does he deserve for the Mavs' defensive issues? And what statement did the Suns make getting a big win in Denver without Devin Booker? Shout-out to KD dropping the 35-piece, willing his team to victory in overtime. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.
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Starting point is 00:07:03 we're going to start with something I saw on the internet that was a little scary. A lot of great things about New York. You said on the internet? I saw on the internet. Everything scares you on the internet. A lot of great things about New York. Fine city, fine people. You were just out there, right? Just out in NY? That rodent situation is not one of those great things, though. So I saw this video posted recently. So you see this big ass rat right here. Oh shit. Get snatched up.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And what's snatched up? You may wonder. We will find out. And just say, see a creeping hiding. Hide it. And look what pops up. An even bigger rat. Now that's a big ass rat.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Wow. Master splinter. That's master splinter in the cut. So you saw a big rat, but it got taken out by an even bigger rat on a New York subway. So I got to know from all y'all, which animal are you the most afraid of?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Because I don't really mess with rats. Be honest, I'm not even going to lie, I'm scared of everything. Rats, spiders, roaches, ants, them red ants. Red ants, okay. Yeah. I jump at leaves if they move too fast. I'm not even going to lie to you. Snakes, lizards.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Lizards? Yeah. Wait, they want to know wonder are you afraid of butterflies? You know I'm not gonna swat it away, but okay you let it live Mosquitoes yeah, I'm gonna get oh, yes that West Nile. Yes, nor snakes what are you most afraid of snakes? Anything that Could kill me and like devour me me, I got to stay away from that. Flies?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. Flies? Yeah. Yeah, a thousand of them. Yeah. Yeah, if it's a thousand of them. Big ass anaconda. A thousand flies?
Starting point is 00:08:57 I mean, one or two, but a thousand of them. You out of here. I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I got to get a blow torch. Mag is undesirable. Rashad, how about yourself? out here. I got to get a blowtorch. Maggie's undesirable. Rashad, how about yourself? Roaches.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Which animal are you the most afraid of? Hood rats. I'm terrified. I'm terrified. The Chandra? That's a double montagna. Yeah. That's a triple montagna.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I could go either way, yeah. Jeez, I seen a hood rat on the internet the other day. Eating with her hands. Talking about, man, talking about this. She like this. They like her bad. I was like, ooh, keep that away from me. Lord.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Stay over there. Stay over there. Stay over there. The largest version of rodent. Woo. Shit. A great day hood rat. Yeah, them hood rats cost you a lot of money,
Starting point is 00:09:49 so yeah, you got to be scared of them. You're right, you're right. They be out here investing in them. They be investing in hood rats. They be getting bigger and bigger. I'm like, leave them alone. Please. They migrating over this way. Leave them. That's why I move all the way down to the beach. I said, mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:10:04 They can't swim. They definitely want to stay away from the water. They don't like pools or large bodies of water. Or humidity or none of that shit. At least you can go outside down to the beach. You can start at some. Yeah. So, you know, speaking of hood rats, but more just women in general, Gil, you hopped on
Starting point is 00:10:23 your personal page today to offer all the ladies out there some advice for how to move in a relationship. So, Gil, what is your best advice for women on how to navigate a relationship? Okay, so look, because, you know, men, we get blamed for who we become, right? Who we become. For you, continue. You know you're fucking it up for us now, right? Who we become. Before you continue, you know you're fucking it up for us now, right? Because you gave away the whole blueprint. But they're women. They don't listen to me.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I know. They don't. They're not going to listen to me. They don't listen to you. But go ahead. Go ahead. So I'm saying, like, in reality, this is what it is. Basically, shut the fuck up, right?
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's your boy. Yeah, no we go and have dinner with males Right you give us the the blueprint to how to get to your your panties Okay, right you give us you tell us everything what your last man did wrong Okay, you want a God-fearing man, even though we don't go to church Okay, right you you're giving us the list of how to get to your heart And then you get mad at us that we use the items on this list. Mm-hmm, right You know how stupid we have to be as men to get everything And then don't use none of it Yeah, crazy. So I'm saying basically shut up on the first date, on the second date, and let us figure
Starting point is 00:11:50 out how to get to you because that's who we got to turn into. I don't need to turn into nothing if I have the list. Got the answer to the test. I got the answer to the test. I'm going to use it. But what if they are giving you that blueprint because they want you to improve upon their previous relationship? So they're offering you that information.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Exactly. They're molding you into the man they want you to be. Exactly. No, no, no. We are the man who we are. We are who we are. Right there. I am who I am already.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And so you say you like to go to church? Oh, yeah. I'm going to go to church until I get the draws. And then it's like. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna go to church Until I get the draws and then I am busy You know the Cowboys is playing today Once I get to what I need to I get to go back to being who I am But that's the but that that was the premises of it like you're telling me kill kill. I'm sorry. I'm sorry You fuck yeah, I got apologize the church folks. I gotta apologize I gotta apologize to all the work that I deserve
Starting point is 00:12:56 We all the first week I go to church Just say I mean all the work that Got the strays throughout the years of that manipulation tactic It's a manipulation tactic. It's it's definitely I'm an interrogator a master interrogator I'm gonna ask all the questions and I'm gonna get the list and I'm gonna say huh? Oh, this is what I gotta be This is what I gotta do. Okay, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Character in motion. In motion. Thank you, this is what I gotta be. Okay, cool, press play. Okay, and then when I stop that video, stop doing all of that, she goes, why you don't do it no more? I said, I'm a new nigga today.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I'm a whole new character. Got a whole new project over here. Clock struck midnight. Yeah. The Dorella story. They think we sheeps. Well, we're wolves. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:13:52 When a guy go on the internet and he start pandering, yeah, man, we need to do this. That's the game. Listen, he's looking at the comments of the last video and say, yeah, that's how you talk to him. Then he go on his video, do the same thing. Y'all going to be in the DMs. What, yeah, that's how you talk to him. Then he go on his video, do the same thing. Y'all gonna be in the DMs and... What was that dude that got busted? Derek. Derek Jackson? Yes. Simping.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Simping. He was simping for sure. But that's what I'm saying. Women want simps and then wonder why every man turned into a simp. That's what you want. Well, look, that's what you don't need. Listen, guys, you don't need to go out here simping. Yeah, you do. Fucking up your pimping. Just find look, that's what you don't you don't need listen guys. You don't need to go ahead simping Yeah, you do fucking up your pimping. Let's find them. I come forget them Okay, you find them you find out what they won't give them what they won't then you forget about what they won't and then they
Starting point is 00:14:37 Let you go They'll let you go. You ain't gotta break up with them. They'll break up with you Why you don't treat me like you used to? You're creating some monsters out there, though. Oh, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're creating some monsters. See, we dealing with... You create monsters when you act like that.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That's why I had to apologize. They can become more vicious. That's why I had to apologize. I had to say I'm sorry. They can become vicious, too. I sent a lot of them to the sanitarium. They went to the... They...
Starting point is 00:15:01 Cuckoo birds now. The cuckoo. One to the penitentiary and went to the crazy house. Have you been on Instagram lately? Yeah, when we was in the league, man, there wasn't no Instagrams. There wasn't no cuckoo birds like that. Now they all 40, 42, 43, still on Instagram. Been on there 10 years.
Starting point is 00:15:20 You ain't sold shit yet. You ain't sold that thing yet. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil's Arena. We talk about a lot of different things other than basketball. But if you listen closely. I'm still ready to buy. I'm still ready to buy. Go ahead and drink today. I'm still ready to buy, but God damn, it's advertising everywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Y'all make it hard out here. Yeah, they make it difficult. Norris, I know you're a strong guy for your man, so. Listen, I understand what he's saying. I'm church-going, man, this week. I've been banned. She said she likes you like a God-fearing man at the end of the church, so, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:53 I got about seven more hours for some church stuff. I ain't no simp, but I reciprocate the energy that I want. I give out the energy that I want. That's important. That's hard. It is tough. No, because if you give out the energy that you want, think about it. That's hard. It is tough. No, because if you give out the energy that you want,
Starting point is 00:16:07 think about it. But I ain't for the streets, though. Oh, okay, because I'm trying to... It's an energy for everybody. Yeah, for sure. It's an energy for everybody. But they call us womanizers and all that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:16:15 when you're a strong man. You know what you want. I've been banned off all the dating apps. I've been banned, bitch. What do you want? What the hell you get banned for?
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, what do you want? Because I be telling them, like, you ain't all that. They be like, he's harassing me. I'm like, but baby, I'm just being honest. You see it. You know, I've been all over the world. I know what a bad bitch look like. Take off that wig and that makeup.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Let me see what you really look like. Uh-oh. All right, well, I feel like that was a sufficient amount of that. I hope our mothers know it. $100 fantasy. Please, please let us get one more show. Just one more before you cancel. Yeah, because these kind of clips go viral and fuck me up. I can't get no days no more. That might be part of it. They go right back to the, what is that real about? Find them fucking men and get them.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Stevie, baby. See, fuck him, and forget him. That's what I'm saying. They don't believe me. I don't believe you. Let's get to some basketball with a little hibachi time. Every day is an experience. On Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Woof. Woof. Woof. So Celtics pulled up to Cleveland for the Kelsey Brothers bobblehead night. Fresh off a 52-point win over the Warriors. Riding an 11-game winning streak. With Donovan Mitchell still sidelined and Evan Mobley leaving the game in the third quarter with an ankle injury, Boston once again got cooked by a D-Wade.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So the D-Wade in this case was Dean Wade. Wade put up 20 points in the fourth quarter. Went hard on him. Oh, take that bucket Drew Holliday. Cavs came back, erased the Celtics lead. So amongst those 20 points was this game winning put back dunk with 19 seconds remaining to help the Cavs overcome a 20 point deficit. What some controversy in the game.
Starting point is 00:18:04 So you see on this play right here, initially, Jason Tatum whistled for a foul. Is that a natural leg motion? You think that's a foul, Norris? It's him and his chest. No, he didn't touch him, though. You're talking about Jason Tatum foul? Garland was whistling for a foul here.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Cavs challenged. They reviewed the play. Overturned the call. After the game, Dean Wade got some love for Travis Kelsey. As the Cavs got the dub. So, let's talk a little bit about Cleveland. It could have went either way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You guys are knowledgeable hoopers. You think foul, no foul? No call. No call. Overturn it. Because you could have called offensive. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you could have called the offensive.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You could have called anything and they let it play. It reminds me of that high school game in Jersey that we just watched that's going viral right now where the kid shot the ball. The ball is already out of the net. 45 seconds to go, right? And they overturned it. Like, once it goes viral, once it goes viral and you see the ball was out of his hands, shouldn't they reverse that now?
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yes, they should. Right, they should reverse it and say, all right, actually the other team wins because obviously it's clear because you don't know what them refs' motives are. Right? You know what I mean? You don't know what the ref had on the game or nothing, but you can clearly see that that was a win. So I kind of like that we can challenge calls now. As Tatum, I would be mad because, motherfucker, you blew it.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Star A, star status. For sure. I guess, but once we can see that it wasn't a foul, then they should be able now to take wins off and credit. It should. What's the point of having it if you can't change it?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. Why have replay in the two-minute report and all that if you can't go back and correct, especially if it directly impacts the win or a loss?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. I don't think that directly, they shouldn't have even came to that that you right soon. They came that should go to Cleveland Yeah, they came all the way back Yeah And like you said if it's a 50-50 call don't make the call or let the player Let the players make the make the game win. Yeah, because if you make that shot Like okay something like this. You remember?
Starting point is 00:20:22 The Boston would brawn in the hand. That's a foul right? Okay. brawn in the hand that's a foul right okay So now that we know that's a foul right The game wins the overtime instead of two free throws Have whatever how many seconds is left? Shouldn't they just redo this game and give brawn the two free throws at the end to see if he makes it if he makes It game over Cleveland gets to win if he misses it. If he makes it, game over. Cleveland gets the win. If he misses it,
Starting point is 00:20:45 then it's overtime. If it goes to overtime, Boston got the win. Because the adrenaline of that moment, we don't know if Brian will make those free throws or not because of the moment. But it don't matter. What I'm saying is because he received that there was a foul, so he
Starting point is 00:21:01 should be credited two free throws. We don't care if he was in the moment then or not. He should be able to be credited two free throws. For sure. We don't care if he was in the moment then or not. He should be able to get two free throws. So if he makes one or both, he wins. If he misses them both, Boston wins because they won in overtime. So we already know what the result in overtime is. Boston won.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But we don't know if LeBron misses those free throws. Will that fuel him to greatness to go get the win in OT? But he didn't. He didn't get the win. He didn't get the free throws. But he was pissed, though. No, but no, if he gets the free throws, the game's over.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He was emotionally out of it, though, after that moment with such a blatant missed call from the ref. If he makes the free throw, that's game over. But I'm saying if he misses them, we still got to play to overtime. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. They already played overtime. And Boston won in overtime. They was down one?
Starting point is 00:21:43 No, it was a tie game. It was a tie game. Yeah. I say split overtime. They was down one down. No, it was tie game. It was a tie game Yeah, I say split it just give him one point then he wouldn't then bug then they win Yeah, just give him the one point because you don't know if you're gonna make one miss one make both miss both That's I said in the moment like I'm saying I'm thinking about if in Boston you're gonna want him to shoot the two free throws Because because if you give him one a win. Game's over. If he goes and shoots two and he misses them both, we get the win no matter what because we won in overtime. So we already played overtime, so we know who the winner is. But stuff like that, that
Starting point is 00:22:13 should be rules in if you're going to... And it has happened. It's not unprecedented, I believe. They have had to come back and replay a game. It was like a He game, right? It was a He game? Yeah, but I think different players on the roster, so it ended up being asinine. But there have been challenges that have been won and had those games replayed. I'm sick of that, man.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Why we had this stuff and we ain't going to correct it? So, we have to say, why have it? Especially for the 5-4-3-2-1 game situations. You know, other situations, second, third quarter, I get it. But, like, when this is directly impacting the winner or loss, the two-minute report does no good for you to say, hey, yeah that call I don't even want the two minute yeah I know right doesn't even matter yeah ref should definitely be like or that blowing the call literally in a make-or-break situation is that that's a as you can't have that you know
Starting point is 00:23:01 I hate you know I hate the refs. In a sense. You think? It seems like the two-minute report saves them from embarrassment. But then use the two-minute report to do correction then. If you're not going to find them. Because listen, obviously you're going to miss calls. We get it. Everything's moving fast. You're watching. Sometimes you forget you're at the miss calls. We get it, right? Everything's moving fast. You're watching.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Sometimes you forget you're at the job, just like some of us. You can drop a plate right now, and we go out there, and we forget because we're thinking about something else. So we know the human nature's in it. But the two-minute report should correct a lot of things, right? If we're not going to embarrass the refs by the calls they made or we're not going to fine them for just not doing their job or doing their job or missing you know things on the job then it should be corrected to the winners like okay you missed a foul here foul here they could have been in the penalty like there's there has to be correction that penalty shit oh you might boom they're already in the penalty this was clearly
Starting point is 00:24:00 a foul shit fucking one-on- For sure. Because we get held accountable. Yeah. And we get too many bad plays, we be on that bench. Yep. Messing with your bread. Too many bad plays. Us players on that bench. And that be the thing, too.
Starting point is 00:24:14 When you have a play that's not your fault and the ref fucked it up, but it looked like it's your fault, so the coach is, he got to bring you out. It just looked bad. It's like, boy, you done had three straight possessions of bullshit. But this motherfucker. Man, he's got to grab my out. It just looked bad. It's like boy. You don't have three straight possessions of bullshit Grab my arm man. He's just totally just throw the ball and can't go talk about him at the yeah And then it's twisted lemonade. It's a little strong You know you're lightweight Gentlemen I got a pole. There's a pole. There was a big debate before this show
Starting point is 00:24:46 So we want to do a live event Okay Steve is like Aw shit A live event How much would you pay To come see us live Right we got 40
Starting point is 00:25:02 50 And 60 40, and 60. 40, 50, and 60. Can we throw 12 in there too? What is the most you would pay to come see us three hours live? Agent 12. But for that 40, 50, or 60 dollars, you get to take a photo with Gil. I was going to say some other shit to get me fired.
Starting point is 00:25:23 You didn't know how you looked. You didn't know how you looked. You might get more than a photo. Was gonna say some other shit give me Women fans the best they appreciate shit You're the photo again appreciate you autograph a chance to You know don't say don't say that to me I had you on a wall when I was little that just read there puts the age in Right you're right I got us. Okay. Yeah, you gotta realize you were the man you were the man Okay, you were embraced by all. But we asked the chat in regards to that Tatum overturn call. What's the right call?
Starting point is 00:26:09 Foul? No foul? 70%. Hold on. Let me check the latest one. 70% said no call. No call. So they agree.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And now we are finding out how much people would pay. Hold on. I'm going to go ahead and hit mine. See? Give it a little more time. Give it a little more time. And everybody in the chat, understand that this event will be in Los Angeles. Obviously, we know we have a huge following out here.
Starting point is 00:26:28 You get to hang out with the crew. We'll have some special guests. We'll have some snacks. Security. Security will be in full effect. Heavily. Security will be in full effect. No hood rats.
Starting point is 00:26:40 No hoods. No hoods. Food included. See? People ask you, but see, we... A lot of people on the chat are hating Gil. I just want you to know. They say zero dollars.
Starting point is 00:26:50 They don't got no bread anyway. That's cat. They watching this free show. An intimate evening. Okay? That's why you got to make niggas. You can ask Gil a question. We'll have a VIP section.
Starting point is 00:27:01 White people will pay. White people will pay. They're not going to lie. How much? That's how much that's it? That's it. That's all shit. They say give me three tickets. They're saying $12 for agent 12 He'll be there We're doing Gil Rashad shoot off In the parking lot. I'm ready. But let's talk about these calves
Starting point is 00:27:22 I was getting that big win over the Celtics without Donovan Mitchell. Currently third in the East. Is it time to start putting some respect on the Cavs' name, Norris? I think you got to give credit where credit's due. When you say put respect in their name, I don't know about the championship type of respect yet. Yeah, just a little bit. Slow that down a little bit. But for regular season, they're doing what they're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They've totally bought into the new NBA, a lot of threes. When you make a lot of threes and play at a fast pace, for the regular season, that's pretty much successful. But for the postseason, I'm not so sure yet. I've got to pump my brakes. But for now, I've got to give credit where it's due. They're balling. They're a good young team.
Starting point is 00:28:07 And their style of play fits the regular season. And they're half game behind the Bucs for second in the East, Rashad. Are you rolling with the Cavs? Yeah. Yeah. They remind me of OKC. Kind of like how SAC was last year. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:18 They're just getting the ball rolling. They finding their little stride. JB got them pumping all all cylinders i like their dynamic when they do got mitchell and garland running together and they got mobley and allen running together it's good to see wade trying to be like hey love little young k-love out there giving them some some energy um it's just about now when they go to the east do they play well against the big the big ballers right and um they show last night they can against the east do they play well against the big the big ballers right and they show last night They can against the biggest the biggest boss out there. They beat our ass and I think this arc it residents up to you
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay You gotta take gotta take our L. I think I'm the biggest boss the big company one Yeah, they're in from my lot. Yeah, but they ain't go to the finals last year I mean, hey game lead in the East right now. Best record in the league. I'm thinking he trying to start some shit. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:08 they ain't the biggest balls in the East. I mean, shoot. Trying to start some shit. Who your team? Who your team? I don't have no team. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:29:15 They might pay me. You see, he giving me the answers I was giving him. In court. Whoever got the check. Whoever got the check. I like Cleveland, though. Yeah, I like Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I like Cleveland. I know Miami Mets were finals last year. Gil, I like Cleveland. I like that. I know Miami makes the finals last year. Gil, are you rolling with the Cavs? Obviously, I know your personal feelings towards
Starting point is 00:29:29 Cleveland, the city. You had some tough situations there throughout your career. I mean, you know, I'm starting to really enjoy the younger teams in regular season.
Starting point is 00:29:42 You know, we always get mixed up in, you know, the stars. You know stars, they sitting too much in this. Man, these young teams, there's a reason these young teams are thriving because they're playing, they're playing hard, they're playing together. When you talk about last year, Memphis and Sac, Timberwolves played, they played decent last year. This year, you got Cavs, New York Steel. I mean, shit, Boston's been young for the last six, seven years.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Tatum, 27. Tatum, yeah, 27. He's 27. Sacramento took a dip this year, but... Tatum only 26. He just turned 26. Jalen Brown's 27. You got, you know, Sacramento took a dip this year, but in their place. He just turned 26. Jalen Brown's 27. Yeah, in their place, you got Timberwolves, right?
Starting point is 00:30:34 So, you know, these young guys are out here just playing hard basketball. When we say, you know, regular season's pointless, you know, nah, these young dudes is really coming out here just playing basketball, man. So, you know, you got to give credit to, to, to cast because nobody expected them to be where they were last year, nor this year. Right. And the fact that, you know, their best player is out. And then before that, um, the second best player, right? He was out. Yep.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Right? So, you know, it's not like they've had a full roster this whole time. So the fact that they've been missing key pieces and haven't really gelled together as a unit and they're sitting in third is impressive. I think Garland missed like 19 games. Yeah, Garland missed 19 games. Yeah, he was an all-star last year. You're talking about regular season, right?
Starting point is 00:31:22 But the regular season is not the postseason. So could the Cavs be a dark horse in the East come playoff time? I think so. Like you said, man, the biggest thing is playing hard. Look at the Miami Heat. Every year postseason come, they turn it up a notch. And it's all about playing hard, playing smart, playing together. And when you do that, you find the teams that just think
Starting point is 00:31:43 that they're supposed to be in there because of the talent, they get flushed out. And that's a lot of times in the playoffs. If you get flushed out, it's because you ain't got the focus, the determination to stay in front of the guys you're supposed to play in front of. You know, playing to the level of your competition. And then that's when people come in and outwork you. And I think that the OKCs, the Saks, the Clevelands York's even Orlando They have four Orlando like Orlando playing hard out there like cuz you overlooked it all they ain't got no real stars like that And it's like well, they got a leader and they got guys who gonna follow
Starting point is 00:32:17 So if you just go out there and play but play by example, yeah, you got something right? And then this is like you look at Phoenix how they play Last night you look at Denver, you got something right and then this is like you look at Phoenix how they play Last night you look at Denver, you know, there's a lot of those teams to play especially like teams like Dallas They just go out there and think the talent don't do what it's supposed to do Then they ended up getting getting beat by certain teams We're gonna talk about the Mavs in a little bit But like you mentioned the magic Paolo Bancaro in his second season all--Star, Henry Franz Wagner, elevating that team to new heights. Are y'all rolling with the Cavs in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Is the question. I think they have a chance because they have a legitimate closer. They play a style of play. They have potentially two, yeah, because Donovan is a closer. And then you know Garland, he ain't scared of the moment either.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And they also have a rim protector, you know, and Allen, two of them with of the moment either. And they also have a rim protector, you know, in Allen. Two of them with Mowgli. So when you got a closer, you have three-point shooting, and you can protect the rim, that's a pretty successful combination. Now it's just a matter of can they put it together. Yep. Which is, you know, it's yet to see, but I think that they can be a dark horse.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You mentioned Jared Allen in the running right now for defensive player of the year. I think top three right now, the year. Yes, sir. I think top three right now, top four. Yes, sir. Do you run with the Cavs or do we have another city that we can't pull up to? No, it all depends on who they play, so no. Who they got? Who they got?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Miami. Oh, no. So, no. So, right now, the playoffs, I don't think so. If they had to stop right now, they'd play Miami first round. No. You don't think so know Amy first right if they stop right now. They play Miami first round. No one thing so no Miami no, I don't like the way Miami been playing man No matter how they played before April after April is up I get it though, but like if they get if Miami if they can if they can I
Starting point is 00:34:02 Mean Like if they try, I mean everyone be trying to get Philly. If somehow Miami and Philly can swap, but Philly right now is the team you want to play in the playoffs first round. See, my thing with Miami is this. They haven't changed their look. We see who they got. We know what they're going to give us.
Starting point is 00:34:23 They didn't change nothing. So if you can go into that Miami series as Cleveland, full strength, you can beat them. Because y'all are a better team. On paper, talent-wise, they're a better team. And if y'all play hard, just like they play. For sure. Because Mobley and Allen came playing the same game. What you mean?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Oh, why? Not at the same time. Why? Because Love is sitting on the three-point line. So when Jimmy Butler is... Remember, we ain't worried about Jimmy Butler. The guards are 6-1. He's going to be the best player on the court. We're not worried.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Donovan Mitchell has to guard him in the post. He's going to sit in the post. Jimmy Butler's going to sit in the post. We're not worried about Jimmy in the post. I worried about Jimmy in the post Jimmy not really like a post player like that. Oh What do you mean? What do you think? He's a downhill player He goes downhill. Uh-huh. You see what he did the holiday in the post. Yeah, but Andrew holiday Yeah, I know before dudes in the world. That's better than Jimmy and playoffs. That's it. I understand that I'm just saying we've seen this before
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah, we know how we know what's coming at us if Jimmy's all they got That's all they need though. They gonna need more. They got Garland and Mitchell, but they got to play defense against who just You know, just one guy. That's it. Let me create some who's guarding garland zero No, he wrote no he wrote on play no funny, but they're gonna cancel each other What I'm saying is the the they're gonna cancel each other on a point now Donovan Mitchell has to really stop him with Duncan Robinson floating with Kevin love floating with BAM. So he's by himself down low scary Terry's Mobley and Allen both they're not gonna double doubles. They're not gonna be able to play the game. They're double double
Starting point is 00:36:02 That's why you can't stop Jimmy. I started watching what how the fuck does Jimmy keep getting off because they have four people on the perimeter Right and then they have BAM So now you even think about coming off BAM BAM gets that that's why BAM gets fucking the 20 You live in the pocket. He lives in the pocket pocket The only thing you need to do is you need to man up and play defense against Jimmy Butler. That's it. Man up. I'm saying it because of the guys that do it aren't ready to do it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 They're not putting guys that are ready to accept that challenge. But who has been able to accept that challenge? The people that have accepted the challenge aren't good enough. Got torched. They aren't good enough. That's why I said, when they were at eight last year, and they were at eight,
Starting point is 00:36:46 it was because they were playing against teams that didn't have the balance to actually go up against them. And when he did, when they played against Boston... The best defensive player. They ended up torching them. But it wasn't Jimmy who beat them. But what I'm saying is Jimmy... But what I'm saying is Jimmy...
Starting point is 00:37:00 Jimmy still torched them. Bam beat them. No, what I'm saying is... Now, why did Bam beat them? Because they didn't have a bad the band beat them because they didn't Have a bad hour for because they had no real way. They start trying to send that they got the thing is now Them is all a them and Jayla had that they had he had that they had that okay not to think about it Jalen and was today six ten and six nine
Starting point is 00:37:22 They don't who's on their garden Jimmy that's six ten and six nine four on their guard in Jimmy that's 6'10 and 6'9? For Boston? No, for Cal. That's what I'm saying. Boston had 6'10 and 6'9. When you're dealing with a team like Miami, you got to give up something, right? We're going to have to give up something. In some game, it don't matter.
Starting point is 00:37:40 We're giving up something. We're going to give up something with Jimmy. We got to offset that on the backside. So we got Mobley Allen and Garland We got a we got a makeup. We got to pick it up. That sounds good But one thing about Miami they can play any style If they not hitting three plating is down here now They not know threes is down late against Boston. No style beat them and competed well against Denver
Starting point is 00:38:03 So I mean any style Miami can be ready for. I think it's going to be like this. When Miami match up with whoever, whether it's New York or Cleveland, it's going to be a dogfight. They're going to be both of them. It's going to be a dogfight. It's going to be a dogfight. Either one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Miami? Miami or New York. Do they going to sweep through Cleveland? They're not going to sweep through, but it's four twos on both. No. hell no. Seven. The best player on the court is gonna be Jimmy. Because the problem is, Jimmy's gonna guard Brunson.
Starting point is 00:38:32 For sure. They don't have someone that's gonna guard Jimmy. He's too big for them. It's easy, like that's what I'm saying, it's easy for Boston because their shooting guard and their small four is 6'10 and 6'9. So they had to hide over Jimmy. Everybody else, Jimmy's guarding or that's going to guard Jimmy or is going to guard Jimmy, they're too small. It sounds good because
Starting point is 00:38:54 we're saying the name Jimmy Butler. We're talking about height, 6'8. His defense. You say his name, you're like, well, he ain't been showing up like that on the defensive end like that. When you go watch Miami, if he's guarding Brunson,
Starting point is 00:39:10 everybody's sticking on the screens, everybody's switching, there ain't no, I got him no more. Jimmy used to do that two years ago. I got him. I'm about to lock him down. Nah, he didn't. Because he had to offset that energy to score. And he knew that. He knew he got multiple defenders though
Starting point is 00:39:27 Come on, you know So we know if we need Jimmy to stop a certain guy and we need Jimmy to come down here and give us buckets That's gonna be the thing. We're gonna be shooting guard on New York That's gonna dream his energy deep Vincenzo? Yes. Running around? So that means for the fourth quarter he's just going to be sitting there chilling. If you're not going to guard Brunson. And then he's going to guard Brunson with all his energy.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So he's going to have to make a decision because they're running DiVincenzo around. He's shooting that bitch like clay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk more heat later in the show, but Gil, you asked the chat how much they would pay to see Gil's Arena live. I'm not even sure they're gonna say the cheapest one, 40. Nope. No, you gonna... Oh, yeah, so? Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I know people. No, I just know people. I just know people. 57% said that they would pay $40 to see Gil's Arena live. Gil, you have an impact. You have a lot of motion in the city of L.A. We're gonna do that plus food and entertainment Steve over there like nope You know, you got to get it backed up. All right, so let's talk a little bit about KD and the Sun. Show us something, Steve. I ain't got it. I ain't got it.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I ain't got it. I ain't got it. Let's talk about KD and the Sun. Steve, you want $10,000 and go through there for the one. You said you would need a dollar, right? Here you go. That's crazy. You got your dollar.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Well, KD. KD. So, Sun's nearly tricked off a 20-point lead in Denver on Tuesday night without Devin Booker. $100. Well. 80. 80. So, the Suns nearly tricked off a 20-point lead in Denver on Tuesday night without Devin Booker. But KD had to remind us why he's one of the best in the world. So, KD was 14 for 34 in the game. But did get some buckets like that right there. Durantula. Doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:41:22 The Suns at one point had a 20-point lead in the game. Absolutely cooking the defending champs. Give him that. Like I said, KD 14 for 34, but there was a point in the fourth quarter he was 1 for 8, including five straight missed threes before coming up with this huge 3-4 OT. He then proceeded to outscore the Nuggets 8-5 in overtime, finishing with 35 points, eight rebounds, and 5 assists, as the Suns got the big win in Denver without D-Book.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Slim Reaper. So despite KD having an off-shooting night, what statement did the Suns make getting the win in Denver without D-Book? I mean, it just lets you know they have so much firepower going on. I'm just going to be honest, for the Lakers to make it, we want Suns to play Denver, just to be honest. But it kind of lets you know what type of firepower that they're really dealing with under that hood. I mean, every time we talk about sons, we never talk about
Starting point is 00:42:26 them as a full unit. It's always, you know, Devin Booker's killing and, you know, KD's killing. There's no Beal. Now it's Beal and KD. There's no Booker. And, you know, it seems like KD's been fucking there the whole year. You know, doing his damn thing. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:42 the fact that they're still in reach and they're still competing at a high level with, you know, you know, doing his damn thing. So, you know, the fact that they're still in reach and they're still competing at a high level with, you know, option two, three, one, three, whatever you want to call it. You know, they've been out majority of this time and, you know, they're still, you know, in that hunt. You know, still dangerous. You know, you got to give them,
Starting point is 00:42:59 you know, you have to give KD his credit for this. Oh, man. Grayson Allen was eight for eight going into the fourth, I believe. Cooking. Cooking.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I needed 19 from Bradley Bill. He only gave me 16. It's unfortunate when those type of things happen. He had 31 the other night, so I figured that was going to be a good pick.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I'm not picking him no more. Michael Porter was supposed to give me eight rebounds. He only gave me seven. It's just a disappointing night. You know, last night I just didn't like it
Starting point is 00:43:32 all the way around. And then I set it off in my fourth quarter. I'm like, I don't want to watch. I'm going to wake up to my thousand dollars and then find out
Starting point is 00:43:40 they actually won the game. I didn't think they was going to win the game. I thought Denver was going to ride it out. But Nurkic ended up doing Found out they actually won the game. I didn't think they was gonna win the game. I thought Denver was gonna ride it out, but Nerkich ended up doing What I thought he would do against Joker just kind of hold it down for period of time and
Starting point is 00:43:57 Denver just never cut it on all the way I think that you you leave KB the opportunity to take over like he did, he going to do that. So the Suns got a good chance when they get the three-headed monster together to make some noise. But until then, it's up in the air, man. I don't trust them. I don't trust them. As good as they are, like you said, they got a lot of firepower. I just don't trust them because it's like, Brad, if could stay healthy they got a chance to win the west but it's like
Starting point is 00:44:29 who's who's out who's who's not like what's wrong with booker what's his injury do we even know yeah i think it's just like oh it's your turn was his ankle i don't know that's what i'm saying it's like brad what was your what was yours ankle, wrists. So Book had a right ankle sprain day to day. Yep. But like you said, we haven't really seen this team as a whole. We've seen bits and pieces. I think they have the potential to be really good. Obviously, they show last night when you got KD on your team,
Starting point is 00:45:00 you always got a puncher's chance because he can always go crazy like he did in the fourth in overtime. But I'm like, Sean, I don't trust him until I see him, you know, because you're not going to just get all three of them together and just walk through a team that's been playing together all year. That normally, under normal situations, that don't happen, no matter who those three players are. You know, they have to go through some type of molding stage to where when they get in situations, alright, what we gonna do? Can't be like, it's your turn, my turn, your turn, my turn. That normally don't work, you know, in the finals or in the playoffs against other teams who are in sync with each
Starting point is 00:45:36 other. So I think they have a puncher's chance always, but I think the teams who have been healthier, who have played together throughout the season will beat them when it counts the most. Like I think in the playoff series, I think the teams who have been healthier, who have played together throughout the season, will beat them when it counts the most. I think in the playoff series, I think Denver would handle them. And that's been an issue, I think, for the Suns all season. They did have, I think, a 22-point lead in that game. Ended up tricking it off, have to force overtime. That's been a consistent thing for them. Because we're relying on jump shooting.
Starting point is 00:46:03 KD and Booker and Beal are all three some of the best jump shooters we have in the league. But we all know jump shooting is the most inconsistent part of basketball. You can be on and blow a team out, but you can be off. And teams like Denver, they run offense. So their percentages are going to be high almost every night. For sure. So, you know. So, like I said, son's fourth quarter issues but they
Starting point is 00:46:26 are three and oh and overtime this season so how to it's like jack on high they triggered in the fourth but come come i think we need a traditional point guard at least a backup somebody we talked about that all season in today's game that's why i look weird to me with bill bill wasn't going for his buckets because they were playing him differently, so he was actually facilitating nice. But it was like when it's time for you to start cooking, when they started coming back, he still kept that mindset, oh, I'm just going to run point guard.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I'm going to run the point. And then that relied on KD to do his thing, but if KD's missing. That's what I'm saying. And they're going to need a break. During the playoffs, you're going to have to sit one or two of them to give them a breather, so it's's only gonna be one of them in there you gotta have somebody in there that can create offense or at least organize the offense while one or two of them is resting and then swap them back out you know at least for five minutes six
Starting point is 00:47:17 minutes because you can't wear them out for three straight series yeah you're gonna play all three of them 44 minutes for three safe series, year 17 for KD, year 12, 13 for Bill, almost going on year 10 for Booker. That's a lot of minutes. We get three timeouts a quarter. Plus, we get a timeout in three minutes. That's a lot. The nine-minute mark, the six-minute mark, and then the three-minute mark.
Starting point is 00:47:40 We're going to run them to the ground? Actually, I got six timeouts there. Frank the Tank got to use them timeouts. I got six timeouts there. Frank the Tank got to use them timeouts. I got six timeouts every 12 minutes. You're going to run them to the ground?
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Starting point is 00:48:16 What that that ends up happening? Um, just YouTube itself. There's a video I did cleaner I didn't do a lot of you know cussing in it and went on that It was like probably like two hours. It was almost 40 ads You get paid for those though. I had to take some of them off Like I don't I don't even want to watch it watch it back Yeah, so I had to take some of those ads off like ladies and gentlemen. We are working with our staff I know I was just too many as you can't ads. You can't even get a flow into it. No, I wasn't.
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Starting point is 00:49:55 All right, let's talk about some things going on in Texas. Wimby is the future of the league, but on Tuesday, Rocket Center, Alperin Shang-Goon showed us why Wimby may not even be the best big man in the state of Texas. So, Shangun put up a career-high 45 points along with 16 rebounds, 5 steals, 3 dimes, and a block to boot. Shangun is the youngest player ever with 45, 15, and 5 steals in the game. And he also locked up Wimby holding them to 10 points on 40% shooting from the field when we did have 11 rebounds in seven
Starting point is 00:50:29 blocks but he also has six turnovers in the game oh yeah like a large one they post them as they say okay now take this under, I've calibrated to what you do. Okay, now take this sky hook. Always sweet. You know, it's called a baptism. Taking them deep, too, inside, outside. Mm, however you want it. So after the game, Shane Goon talked about cooking the rookie of the year. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:50:58 He's so tall, really, he's really tall, but he's not that strong yet, you know? So I was going his chest and put him on the under the rim. So, like I said, they didn't double me tonight that much, so I work in the under the rim. He said, get your ass in the lightweight room. He kept it real. I mean, he wasn't trying to brag.
Starting point is 00:51:17 They asked him a question. A 45-piece, you can talk like that. You know? Shots to your face. Yeah, man. I don't like that shit. I gave it to him, though. Nah, man. I mean, you got to do that. You know. Should I see your face? Yeah, man. I don't like that shit. I gave it to him, though. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I mean, you got to do that. This next game and the next game, I don't want to just see no win before he 5-5. You got to start getting numbers now. He been getting numbers, though.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Get them numbers now. Don't just get these numbers on a little young rookie and think you use some shit now. Why not? That young rookie and think you use some shit now Why not that young rookie about to be defensive player? Yeah, but he's a rookie He's a rookie in the league. Let me see some more shit saying go on to my he's all that. Yeah, man Nah, man, I'm cool. He's ad man. I'm cool on that man
Starting point is 00:52:02 Man, you know the NBA you It's a rookie, man. You get all your numbers up. That's how you get your numbers up. That's what I'm saying. I get it. It looked great. When we didn't play great, it was his wake-up call. Everybody gets smacked in the face that one game.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Man, listen. Stop it. I mean, no. Stop what? Stop it. You know what's crazy, though? As somebody who possibly might win the defense player of the year, low-key, everybody's hitting their career high on him.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Low-key. Everybody's hitting their career high on him. As a one-on-one defender, he still needs help. Sure. Right? He still needs help as a one-on-one defender. Right now, most defensive players, they are help defenders.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But I don't think people actually understand that. Like, Rudy Gober is a great help defender. He understands how to protect the paint. Same thing as Winby. Same thing as... Serge Ibaka was that one. Serge Ibaka, yeah. Ben Wallace was that.
Starting point is 00:53:02 On the ball, when someone's backing you down and sitting there putting you under the rim and stuff, your defense usually is questionable. Well, you think about it, too, though. He's a rookie. He ain't never really went through this with top guys who can really score in the post. So he got to go through the whole season taking his lumps, learning how to guard these guys, right? So I don't look at it as, oh, man, he's getting killed by these guys. It's like, all right, this is the first time you're playing against this guard these guys, right? So I don't look at it as, oh man, he's getting killed by these guys. It's like, alright, this is the first time you're playing against
Starting point is 00:53:27 this type of guy, right? So he's going to give you work. And you're going to figure out like, okay, this is what he was doing. He hit me with the little chicken wing. He hit me with the up and under and now you get used to it. Now next year, if he's hitting me with that, I just can't fuck with that dude. I don't like playing against him. That's how
Starting point is 00:53:43 Paul Gasol was against a lot of guys. He was weird with his shit down there. Man, dunking on you opposite hands and shit. Carlos Boozer was kind of like that. You just didn't know how to guard that shit. But Sanguna, I ain't going to lie. Because he loved to left.
Starting point is 00:53:59 He loved to left. But you wouldn't know that if you win, be playing against Carlos Boozer. You'd be like, he keep going left. But booze You'd be like he keep going left pretty right-handed But when we played in Europe Saying goon, that's how they play out there. So it's not his first time seeing that style of play He just saw it at the highest level. That's what I'm saying at the highest level saying goon is onus out there, sir He got he got some shit You got saying goon doing his dainty you like a Jalen Green trying to come to the rim.
Starting point is 00:54:27 It's a little different. But, you know, it's usually when you think about like great defensive bigs, they were usually help dudes. They were great at helping everybody. Like necessarily like stopping your own man. Like, you know, Mutombo, he wasn't stopping Shaquille O'Neal and David Robinson and you know um when no high team and Patrick Ewan that I wasn't you know he wasn't he was more like guys trying to drive let me go ahead you know you try to make a back door oh I caught that yeah you know I mean so you really have to understand where their defense is great
Starting point is 00:54:59 it's only about two or three I can remember big stack was actually good good. Duncan was good going his guy One on one Hakeem could guard his guy like one-on-one KG was good at he could guard his guy like his matchup like one-on-one like she Wallace She's right in your Martin can you more more? Oh rat lift was good. He would don't know about Theo He was a monster. Yes, sir There's a lot of guys that could hold it on but you never would notice because they were just the presence It was the presence of the big man that helped you stay out the lane Yeah, even with Kmart like Kmart was a presence down there
Starting point is 00:55:32 He would rather not guard it. He would rather not guard a center because the niggas was bigger than him But he knew how to hold his own in the post No, I'm saying but see that's but that's what people like when people say yeah, this this guard is good. Yeah, he's good He's good Defender, but it's like sometimes the people back there. They are a jay kid. I came looking at me. I'm not driving Like I don't feel like I don't feel like in clothesline not today right and you end up you end up settling and taking jumpers because you don't want to be hit by some of those people down They're like if we hit Dwayne Wade down here hard and Haslam is sitting there with that eye, I'm not going to drive in until he get out of the game.
Starting point is 00:56:13 So, you know what I mean? Now I'm just going to be sitting there shooting jumpers and threes the whole time. So, shit, Damon Jones might look like a great defensive player today because I don't want to go down there. Exactly. You know what I mean? And that ends up happening. defensive player today because I don't want to go down there. Exactly. You know what I mean? And that ends up happening. So there's so many factors in the game that nobody talks about or no one sits there and
Starting point is 00:56:32 put into consideration on why things are the way they are. And you look at Wimby, right? It's one-on-one, no help. No help. You're on an island. Now, if you think about NBA basketball, in any circumstance, when you're playing one-on-one, no help against a nigga who got some moves, it's a long night. It's a long night, right?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Especially if you're not getting the ball back and you can go get your shit. Man, it's... If he has some defensive player that's coming down there, digging and helping and doing all this, it makes his job ten times. Like, I remember when we were guarding Shaq, I had one job. Make sure he takes two dribbles. Yep. Right?
Starting point is 00:57:09 Please do not allow Shaq. That's Brendan Hayward. Just don't let him take one dribble and dunk it. Right. You make him dribble twice. You're like, how the fuck? I'm not the one guarding him. He's like, yo, flick at him.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Just dig. Dig down there. Yep. Just dig. Just make sure he bounces it two times. Gives me more health. Yep. Then just a one. Boom. And then yep. Just dig. Just make sure he bounces it two times. Gives me more health. Yep. Than just a one, boom, and then he dunks it.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Just a live bet. And you had five, six dribbles on him. He dribbled me from the free throw line drop down. It's lunch meat. Like, if you allow Shaq and them and Tim Duncan to dribble six times, you, as a big man, you did your job. For sure. You did your job if you allowed them to take five, six dribbles.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Lunch meet. Like, Wimby was lunch meet this game. Oh, yeah. But that's team right there. You allowed a second goal in a dribble five, six times before you helped Wimby. Like, in the older days, that's crazy, right? The older days,
Starting point is 00:58:02 a coach would have cussed you out. He can just dribble around like the big man like no But I'm like pop are you sleep on the sideline or something? He expect it's hard, but those shots he was making them look easy. Those are tough shots. Just got a report Those are tough. He's gonna dribble that bitch left and right. He's going to go right shoulder, left shoulder. He got both of them. Listen, we need to go.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Yeah, but that's a big... That's like two dribbles max. But that's guard play. Yo, I'm helping y'all like crazy. Where's the return? That's what I'm saying. For the coach to sit over there for the whole four quarters, he got 45 points,
Starting point is 00:58:44 and we ain't went down there and helped young fella. He a young fella. Zach Collins, okay, we get it. Zach, you not supposed to be taking this kind of abuse. You've been in this league long enough. You know. Push him off his spot, make him turn and shoot the jumper. Cool.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Everybody else, look, Wimby down there, he is lunch meat down there. That's players. That's players. Help. You should naturally just know. You ain't got to tell you ain't got to show drew holiday to come and dig We talk about the same motherfuckers only one throw the ball throw the water bottle I said, but that's the same of a baby won't even throw the ball Like that's why I say he's defensive player of the year because he has no other defenders down there to help him defend
Starting point is 00:59:24 He's just doing it by himself. They're a top three rated defensive team when he's on the floor. When he's off the floor, they're the last defense in the league. So it's just him. So from barbecue to boo-boo. Talk about another team in Texas. You know. If y'all listen closely, I do drop some gems occasionally.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Luka Doncic, third player in NBA history to have four straight 30-point triple doubles. Damn. First since Russell Westbrook in 2017. Second is Russell Westbrook in 2018. What? In 2019. 13, Russell Westbrook again. All three.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Four years in a row. No, four straight 30-point triple doubles. No, I'm just saying, you said that's the fourth player? Fourth player. So Russell Westbrook is the first three players? Oscar Robertson. Oh, he went okay Luca Westbrook Oscar Robertson, okay to have four straight 30-point triple-doubles first since Russell Westbrook in 27
Starting point is 01:00:22 During that span Lucas average of 36 36 points, 12 assists, 11 rebounds. Only problem, Mavs lost five of their last six games, including a loss to the Pacers Tuesday night. They've been dead last in league defense during that six-game stretch. And they're only a game ahead of the Warriors for the 10th seed. So after the loss
Starting point is 01:00:40 to the Pacers last night, when asked what specifically he can do to improve on the defensive side Lucas No, I did I say Westbrook. I said Westbrook Not for real cuz he you pull up on you now No, I when I said it sounded like it came out like tonight was I was Westbrook Russell Like no I said Westbrook, you know, we got love for you on this show
Starting point is 01:01:04 So like I said only problem with withuka during the stretch is McCook on offense, but the Mavs have lost five of their last six games. Worst defense in the league during that six-game stretch. Only a game ahead of the Warriors for the 10th seed. So after the loss, when asked specifically what he can do to improve on the defensive side, Luka simply said, play better defense. Which echoes your sentiments last week. Niggas gotta play defense. So J-Kid also talked about the Mavs defensive struggles this season.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Does Luka need to be better defensively? We all do. We all do. It's, you know, when you look at leaning on Luka offensively, which we do, and he delivers, we have to be able to cover him and and cover not just Luca but cover Kai and the other three that are out there have to protect each other it's not just one-on-one the players are too good in this league to just play one-on-one we have to do as a group a team defense we have to guard the ball better we have to help each other and then we have to do as a group, a team defense, we have to guard the ball better, we have to help each other, and we have to finish the play by rebounding.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And we can do this. It's just being, you know, we show the signs of it. We just have to be, you know, on the unknown. We can't just give up the threes. We have to be consistent, and we're not being consistent right now. As you gentlemen know, the Internet has no chill, much like the namesake of Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy, Woof Woof. Luka has developed the nickname, despite the loss, Donchik, because every time they say
Starting point is 01:02:34 his stats, despite the loss, Luka had bam, bam, and bam. Mavs currently have the 23rd ranked defense in the league. So Gil, you know a lot about offense and a lot about not playing defense. With everything that Luka brings. Gil, you said it yourself. That's the only thing. I said it myself. So I'm just quoting Gilbert Arena. I just want people to say, you don't play no defense.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Who's saying it though? Me. I'm pushing my own narrative. Self-deprecating. Think about the guards that I've played against. I didn't have to play no defense. Eric Snow. Damien Jones.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Oh, no. Yet another appearance on Gilderoy. I mean, it was just. He stayed on straights. No, I'm just trying to. He's Snow, man. No, it's not. What I'm saying is think of Derrick Fisher, Brian Shaw.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Those are the guards I had to guard. I don't have to. If they scored 10 That was amazing game. So my defensive rate wouldn't be high cuz what they averaged 12. I hold him to 9 Do your streak of mentioning Eric's But think about the people I had to guard it wasn't really It wasn't really anybody. I didn't have to guard this type of era someone going for 30. Like even like somebody like Steve
Starting point is 01:03:48 Francis and Mulberry. They averaged 19 best. Like they scored 18 points. Like this was what, this wasn't a group that was averaging 30 something. This is your 6th show mentioning Eric Snow. Yeah. Go on. Go on. Name who you want to think you by the name
Starting point is 01:04:04 in that era. Chauncey, Steve. How much did Chauncey have, 17? Steve Francis, 15, 14? No, Steve Nash. What do you have, 17? Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson. 13, I'd have to go, Allen was a two.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah, but- See, that's what I'm saying. Did you have to go with Baron Davis? Baron Davis, 16, 17. Those guys- Gary Payton. Who? Old Gary. 10? Did you go you are young no Tony Park Tony Parker 18
Starting point is 01:04:28 points is 19 is the highest yeah what I'm saying think about the averages I'm saying now you right though it the last he was garden what I said the guys that I'm guarding their maxes so their max is 20 so were you what so you're a good defender they go no what I'm saying is I didn't even I use this guy what I'm saying is my usage So if they average 19 Yeah, and they scored 17 Then you locked him up. They still a minor because he's going to Point you can say you locked him right so I'm not guarding
Starting point is 01:04:56 So but in today's game right if I'm guarding step and step averages 31 and he scored 29 on me And I oh shit. He can't play no defense But I don't think it's about the point production more than it is tough night. If you're shooting 36% while I'm guarding you, I'm playing good defense on you, even if you end up with 40. I know that you had a tough night tonight.
Starting point is 01:05:20 You got free throws. You got a couple threes. You did what you're supposed to do to get your points, but it was a hard night tonight. But that's what I'm saying. Who was that hard night for me? You know, Smush Parkers, you know. Another Smush. Steve, Steve Blakes.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Those are my matchups. Kurt Heimlich. Yeah, Kurt Heimlich. So, for the most part, I'm in help mode the whole time. My guy is the one we're coming off of. I get it. But now they have issues. Dallas Jameer Nelson to they starting to guys. So you think you see what I'm saying? Like, so I'm in help. I'm in help. So I'm telly
Starting point is 01:05:59 tell affair. So I'm helping on you and helping on wasn't it? So if he has three threes, right? I'm the bad boy. Randy Floyd. Yeah, I didn't have no. That's what I said. It's Mike James. So Mike James and Mike Bibby was the biggest. Bobby Jackson. Didn't even.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah. Man. So I had to hold the wrong. Oh, I had an easy night at the workplace. So let's get back to Luca. Now you see why. In the Mavs' defensive struggles, with everything that Luka brings offensively,
Starting point is 01:06:27 does he need to worry about being a good defender? Is that his problem? Yes. Yes. Surround him with that defense. No, no. No, I'm just saying. Because, look, I told y'all, it's Luka, Ant-Man, and Boston, right?
Starting point is 01:06:41 But now, like, while I'm watching him, like, I'm starting to pull away from him. Because he literally just let niggas walk right by him. And it's like, ole. And that's the effort thing to me. Like, if you gave me effort and you got fouls, one thing, right? That's just showing that you need to play smarter defense. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:01 But if you're giving effort and you contesting shots at least, making it tough, not fouling, if they scoring, they scoring. We're going to live with the fact that you just giving effort, but if you're not giving no effort and you coming down on this end and you giving me all the effort, that's the difference between championship basketball
Starting point is 01:07:19 and just out here playing for numbers. And that's what I'm looking at. I'm like, is he really out here playing for numbers? Or what you doing, bro? Because you're not giving me the same energy on the other end. And the other all-time great perimeter players, a lot of them play both ends to some degree. I mean, if you just think about the top scorers and top wing players,
Starting point is 01:07:40 they all competed defensively. Some were all-time greats, a la Mike and Colt, you know, but D-Wade, you know, guys like that. But, like, then you have other guys that will put effort in. They didn't have to be great defenders, but they wasn't like an ole. They have to cover for Luka, like, almost pre-rotate, which is scary. And then you also got Kai out there who they covering for. Like, you got two guys that you have to over-cover for,
Starting point is 01:08:04 not even, like, hold your own. So that's kind of scary. And then you start comparing Luka to some of the other all-time greats with the numbers, and you're like, hold up, you got to watch the game, bro. You got to watch the game. He's scoring and doing a lot of things, great numbers, and he great, but the separation is, man, he not guarding out of the end. At all.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I mean, even Kawhi Leonard, who's an all-time great wing. I mean, Paul George, like, come on, man. Just give a little bit of effort defensively. Gil, you were kicking as... I'm just laughing, because, I mean... How you say he don't play defensively? He not even guarding the other team's best player, and they still say he don't play defensively. He can't.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And they still physically can't. You know what I'm saying? But physically can't. But when you guard... He better go the Euro route. He's going to go the Euro route. Mike Fanny, though. When you guard the other teams... Go ahead. Like you said,
Starting point is 01:08:56 you ain't guarding a high-usage guy, so you should be able to help him do stuff. He's not guarding a high-usage guy and people still saying, like, he ain't playing no D. That's crazy, Gil. Okay. He's just gone and people still saying like okay. He ain't playing no deal. That's crazy. Yeah Okay physically in his position
Starting point is 01:09:11 Who can he actually guard even if he tried who let's just be honest He's a 6'9 Slow no fast twitch muscles whatsoever can barely dunk the ball for his size Smarts yeah, but on a foot race if we decide to go one-on-one Who can he stop at the one or the two? Let's just be on very bird can stop very Played hard. No, let yeah steals, but it's a pace now. We're not talking about we're not talking about in the We're talking about today with all our pack with up with the pack of course
Starting point is 01:09:58 Oh, if you had to know that defense is easy if you just try right now He ain't nobody he can write nobody more right now right now today Right right right now today Your life depend on it one-on-one Would you rather go against? Luca the score on or Or...
Starting point is 01:10:27 Give me somebody else that's worse. An American. Or... Or Kyrie. Who would you go against right now to score? This is your life depending on it. I'm scoring on Luca, bro. Easy. Who would I rather go? Who would you rather go against? I mean, no. Ky Kyrie because he's smaller Mouse in the house
Starting point is 01:10:49 That's I mean that makes sense for him right there for me Too slow. So if every guard if he's the slowest in his position, he's the slowest in his position He's a tallest position right lateral movement. He's he's number he's last right he's no dear he's like um kyle anderson in a sense right he's that that type of dude right what's wrong with kyle slow he just moves slow but kyle plays deep but his name is slow mo that's what i'm saying at least he owns what if you were kyle at the point guard and he has to he's coming downhill i'm just saying he's just physically not the dude that can play defense. But he's not guarding the point guards.
Starting point is 01:11:30 That's what he's saying. Who the fuck is the guard? He's guarding the worst player on the floor. The lowest usage offensive player on other teams? He has to. And still being called a bad defender? He can't even keep up. That's the bad part.
Starting point is 01:11:42 He's guarding the worst possible person. Chef Aloysia. He's guarding Chef Aloysia in the corner, and Chef Aloysia's getting back doors. Chef Aloysia's a nice dog. Because he went back door because he was smart. He knew how to play basketball. I think it's an effort and an accountability thing.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I think if they actually start holding him accountable and him putting the effort to do it. You know what the funny part is? I said it, everybody got mad. Now they know that you said some truth into it. You know the funny part is, I said it and everybody got mad. Now they know that you said it, there's some truth to it. We can say, even though I was just trolling in the sense that
Starting point is 01:12:14 you guys want more defense, get rid of these players, but I'm saying you're going to get rid of their offense too. And their offense is way, I would take their offense over their defense any day. The reason I say that is because their office brings in more money brings in views it expands the game so I will say I will look I will look past the defense for their offense but this is what I was saying if you remove the bigs because
Starting point is 01:12:40 that's been dominating for the last 30 years that the euro big the international big man has been a Stella for the NBA they are a lot the the international big man is technically the most important big since the 90s bigs right where euro where the international player has been lacking offensively and defensively is one two and three they don't know they don't exist you take Luca out of the picture at six nine You can't name me Four other players that you will say these gonna be nice at the shooting guard at the small four We're at the point guard position. It doesn't exist Right now we start not at the superstar level there. It doesn't exist. Not at the superstar level. Not at the superstar level.
Starting point is 01:13:26 They're okay. You got the serviceable. There is the serviceable. Like the Bogdanovans. The Bogdanovans. Both Bogdanovans. Both of them, yeah. Both the Bogdanovans.
Starting point is 01:13:32 So, you know, so. Who? Fournier. Fournier is okay. Yeah. From Detroit. Yeah, that's what I said. He's okay.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So, you know, so they're still lacking in the two, three, because those two positions right now are still fast twitch muscles and athleticism. Right? So it's still behind. The big men, they're elite. The 5-man and the 4-man because they're coming in 6'10", 7-something with the skill that the American bigs just doesn't have. This is what I see. The anticipation that you have as an offensive player to go here, go here,
Starting point is 01:14:10 to do this move, step back. This is the same anticipation on the defensive end where you can jump in front of somebody just to get them to go to their counter. If you get in straight line drives, you're not telling me you're anticipating a move. You're not locked in. You're not locked. You literally have already clocked and move not locked in you not like you literally have already
Starting point is 01:14:27 Clocked out because you know what you got to do on the other end I gotta say this energy and that's what I was that's what me and Cheryl was saying Saving energy for that dough. It's no no when you're when you're slow offensively, it's easier to trick When you're slow offensively, it's easier to trick athleticism. But he's not slow offensively. Boom, boom. He's not. He plays slow.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I was about to say, he's not slow. He plays slow. He makes quick moves. He do. He makes quick moves. He hits you with a quick one, and then, oh, head fake real quick. Yeah, that's what I was going to say, because athleticism want to jump. His pivots is very quick.
Starting point is 01:15:00 And just to stay in front of somebody as they're driving, it don't take a lot of effort. You can stay on somebody's hip, ride them to the basket. And that's what MJ used to teach us at Jordan Camp. We used to play the pickup games. He'd say, listen, cut the court off in three areas. You got the sideline. You got the top. You got the side.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Push them to the baseline. Push them to the corner of the backboard. This is where your help going to come from. If you do your job, your defense has to do their job on the backside. That's help defense. But if you just straight line drive, there ain't no backboard no more. It's straight to the... That's how you play. Straight to the... If we let Gil get by us, it was dead neat. Our bigs was going to be mad because he diving and fooming Every time.
Starting point is 01:15:46 But remember I said, I said that the, the, the guy, when you have a package, right? When you have this elite package, the worst person you want to try to use it on is somebody who don't play exactly. Right? You know what I mean? So like, like if he had to guard Jordan Poole, it'd be easier for him. Right? Because Jordan Poole's going to do so many moves. He's going to shake him, then come back.
Starting point is 01:16:10 Oh, hey, how you doing? Oh, shit, hey. Nice challenge, Luca. Right? You done did so many moves. It made it look like he could play defense. Trying to guard De'Aaron Fox and players like that who's just going to straight line him. He's like, yo, Deo, can you stay in front of this dude?
Starting point is 01:16:29 He said, let me guard the dude that got all the tricks. But the scouting report, too, though, Gil. The scouting report, we're saying catch and go. Luka, catch and go. He ain't guarding the motherfucking stop sign. Go. As soon as you catch it. Now, if he is anticipating that catch and go, now we got enough time for our other defense to step up and help you.
Starting point is 01:16:46 You're not giving us good enough time to even help you because they gone. But the offensive player is smart enough to understand that. He can't guard me off the one or two dribbles, so I'm going to go. The only thing he can really do when you're slower, try to back up, but the guys can shoot now. Right. You know what I mean? So that's why I said it's really just a disadvantage because back in the day, but he's not you can't shoot I'm gonna just sit back here and let you I'm gonna take up your speed by doing this now these guys can shoot
Starting point is 01:17:16 So now I got to try to guard you a little bit. They're gonna blow by me So I'm gonna take his I'm just be honest as a coach I'm gonna take his 33 I'm just be honest as a coach I'm gonna take his 33 He's lamb and his 10 and hopefully his offense can over can over Right. He right now. It's not I'm good. I'm saying if I'm giving up if I'm if he's if he's putting 53 53 points or one per game on to the thing and he's giving up 30 to 40 I'm fine with that. What do we do when we was in I'm fine with that Kai to didn't hear the thing God
Starting point is 01:17:49 But that's what I'm saying. He could just like the only kids say they covering for both of them Yeah, I gotta think about it when we was playing coming up. We had the defensive slide drill Well, you had to get the fuck everybody had to do everybody had to be down in a defensive stance step right step left get the fuck down. Everybody had to do it. Everybody had to get down in a defensive stance. Step right, step left, step back, contest, rebound, turn and go. That was a drill. It don't look like nobody down in a defensive stance no more when you
Starting point is 01:18:15 guarding the ball. Everybody's either contesting the shot or anticipating the shot or they backing up. So it's like, where is the... Man, they got that dumbass drill still man They not slide slide run slide slide it got it And I taking pride in it no more They got where we like you had to go if I go out there and I got a guard Gil and I know I got
Starting point is 01:18:38 To get down and guard and get into the ball. I got to get into the ball now I know what Gil want to do. He want to go Bobby. Yep. He wants to go back So the moment I push up on him, he's like, oh, yeah, that's what I want. Right? So I got to give him enough cushion where he got to think about, okay, just go by him. I got to hit him with something. Yep. That's what I want.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I want you to change your mind. Hit me with something. Go to your counter. Some indecisiveness. Something. For half a second to allow the defense to shift. It's only 14 seconds on the clock. 14 seconds on the clock.
Starting point is 01:19:04 14. So give me some time to get some help. I got your help. Now, if I got a good team, I got your help on the left. Left. Bring them left. Bring them over here. Bring them over here. I got you. And you can be a slow defender and be like this. Just be wide. And the offense says, yeah, go help. Go help. I dare you.
Starting point is 01:19:19 We talking. We all talking. I dare you. You ain't hit one all night. You're the 4-5 for me looking for. We ain't hit nothing. If you hit tonight, dare you to leave. You ain't hit one all night. I dare you to leave. You ain't hit one all night. You the four or five feet looking for. Yeah, we ain't hit nothing. If you hit tonight, we deserve to lose. Yeah, you got it all night. Grayson Allen like, go again.
Starting point is 01:19:31 I'm already five for five. Do it again. Five for five. You ain't going to smell it. Do it again. Hey, you'll be by yourself. You'll be by yourself. Grayson ain't going to smell it tonight.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah, but everybody ain't got no Grayson Allen. Yeah. Everybody ain't got... But think about this. That's Grayson Allen, though. You're talking about the weakest dude on the court is the best shooter on the court. For got it. But think about this. That's Grayson Allen, though. You're talking about the weakest dude on the court is the best shooter on the court. For that team.
Starting point is 01:19:49 For that team. The best shooter, the worst shooter on OKC is Chet. No, Malik Beasley and Grayson Allen has came up big this year when it comes to shooting. Because they realize that this is going to keep me on the court at all times. I have to be the best shooter. This is where Prince, or for my team, Prince and Vando need to go into the summer and realize that. Realize this one thing. Hit that corner three, man. The one thing you want to be in today's game is the best shooter to a star.
Starting point is 01:20:23 As long as there's a star, that star needs a shooter so you cannot leave. I'm telling you, P.J. took me a whole career out of it. Yeah, sitting in the corner just... Just waiting, waiting to go. And that's why I'm kind of frustrated now
Starting point is 01:20:36 with like, yo, go back to what you... Go back to like... Like, you got to take your two 3-3s again, man. Like, go back to taking your 3-3s, sitting in the corner when they know where you are. Now you don't take your two, three, threes again, man. Go back to taking your three, three, threes, sit in the corner when they know where you are. Now you don't want to shoot. There's no need for you now. But that's the thing against a nigga like Luka and them, they give opportunities to
Starting point is 01:20:55 Grayson Allens, Malik Beasleys, guys who going to be designated in the game. They getting shots because you letting these motherfuckers just go straight by you. Hey man, now we got all rotating, we got a switch and all this other dumbass shit place my fucking defense look at the end of the day That might be why he can't get strong consideration for MVP because of that he is dropping in the MVP race So they made the trade for Kyrie last shit, but But what's the name is Shay Shay up there no shape lazy. Yeah, I mean who's number one say in Joker Joker Play no defense though Joker, but he got a good deep. He's gonna help side defense He's slow, but he know how to be in position
Starting point is 01:21:38 Their team they're on the day on the screen blocks and deflections He deflects very well. He plays position basketball. Yeah, position basketball. Yeah, he plays position basketball. So made the trade for Kyrie last year, right? Did not make the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Re-signed Kyrie. So you know you had this issue coming in the season with these two guards and the defensive issues. So why are they still struggling to compete? Because they don't play defense. Okay, but why? Somebody's going to have to be held accountable. Jason Kidd. No. Is it him or is it the players? Because they don't play defense. Okay, but why? Somebody's got to be held accountable. Jason Kidd.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Who's? Is it him or is it the players? He ain't picking a team. He ain't picking a team. He's a roster, though. He's not a defensive-minded coach. He was a defensive player. First-team defense.
Starting point is 01:22:19 He was elite defense. He was a defensive-minded player. He's not a defensive-minded player. He's not a defensive-minded coach. Says who? Says his record and his defensive rating. For the last, what, three years he's been in Dallas? They've been terrible. They're the players.
Starting point is 01:22:36 What are you teaching them defensively that they're not getting? J.B. Bickerstaff was not a player. They got one of the best defenses. OKC. They coached and never played. They got one of the best defenses. Why do they got good defense? Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 01:22:54 And Dallas don't. Okay, so if they make a trade and Draymond Green gets there, Drew Holiday gets there. And just them two. They become a better defensive team, right? No. Why not? Because they're still going to be playing the same defensive strategies.
Starting point is 01:23:17 They're still going to be doing the same concepts. Says who? Says the coach. You have two defensive players on there now that helps the defense. That helps them individually. They're going to pick up the flag individually. You add AD on there. That's three players now that's just defensive-minded.
Starting point is 01:23:32 That cleans up everything. It don't necessarily, especially if your principles on defense is not to the liken of how they play defense. You think it's a philosophy thing? It's definitely a philosophy thing. You think so? No, 100%. If you don't hold the niggas accountable, they go into a zone a lot. Just because they don't want to play defense one-on-one. It's because they don't want to or they can't.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Can't. Which one is it? This year, we're going to definitely have an answer. Last year, we've seen it too. Last year, they couldn't guard a goddamn chair. So now it's like, what are you doing? What's your principles? Do you have schemes?
Starting point is 01:24:08 What you think? Are you just relying on one-on-one defense? Is it because they can't? What I'm saying is you're questioning a guy whose whole life was defense. So his principle is defense. That's his principle. Remember what you said about New Jersey? If he don't have the player.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Who did he have back there? Kenyon and all in okay so I can I can I can I can individually individually no one was going past Jake he had the quickest hands in the game quickest hands quickest feet not that was our defensive did it did Jason kid make I don't know but we can only say he's only can only say that Jason key was very Team if we liked him or not you say oh, yeah, Jake here cuz you yeah, I watch him he played even tonight Are you like Jake he picked up full court? He was about to say before he got think about it
Starting point is 01:24:57 If I'm the second I'm I was the one of the tallest and strongest in the position The only nigga who out strong me and was taller was him everybody else was lunch me he was the only one that keep me out of kept me out of life a kid was not being sent and sick sick on other people like sick him yeah he was no he wasn't he had to guard Kobe he wasn't being hey JK we need you to go no no no no no yeah he was he guarded everybody no way no way that wasn't his reputation. J.K. was a passer. J.K. nine times all defense.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Yes. He was a passer. Nine times all defense. He's a passer. In what era, too? Yeah. He's a triple-double threat. But why is it not translating?
Starting point is 01:25:39 Because they don't have the players. Sometimes players don't translate. You know, sometimes... Is it the coaching? So is it the coaching? I don't know He's not you got a point guard it don't look at the defense so who picked did he play these before you got him point guards Don't play no fuck. Did he pick he picked those players you got him in about who you pick nigga You got him teach him something. I'm gonna teach ain't done their whole life. I'm a teacher. That's why you've got the coach.
Starting point is 01:26:07 That's like him trying to teach people how to pass the ball. If he can't pass, he can't pass. I can teach you how to see. I can teach you how to see. Open your eyes. See this. Hey, running down fast breaks. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:26:19 You looking over there. Look this way. You ain't even seeing it. He right there. This is what I used to see. See what I see. Hey, look. look defensively see when I'm guarding the top push over the top of the screen Stay connected to the ball handler. I'm over top as the players man layers the players I have hold a song Good fuck. Yeah, you get a my coach to be Jason kid. Oh
Starting point is 01:26:44 Steve Nash John Stockton. It could be the one, two, and three. I know one thing they ain't going to have me doing, passing that rock. They're all great assist guys. They're great assist guys. I remember when Coach Eddie, Coach Jason Kidd, he coached Mike Babynim, and when I had the offense, I don't do that. That's not what I do.
Starting point is 01:27:05 This offense has got to be tweaked for me. This is what I do. So unless you're going to replace me and we're going to swap it out, you have to create the offense that I know how to play. So Eddie's offense had to be tweaked for the guys he has today. That's just how it is.
Starting point is 01:27:21 He don't have guys that are locked down defenders like he was. So it's now he's trying to... But Luka's got to have an attitude where I've got to be solid on defense at least. He has to. If he wants to win. All the greats had to sacrifice. Last question for you guys on this topic.
Starting point is 01:27:36 So Luka, the star player of this team, did not make the playoffs last season. Right now they're in the A spot. Like I said, they're... They won't make that shit this year either. So let's look forward to future How much how much blame does Luca deserve for the Mavs not being able to get it done this year? And if they do not make the playoffs and back-to-back seasons We got a whole what do you expect to happen to them accountable the way we hold the other greats accountable?
Starting point is 01:27:56 He ain't no great yet. What? What I'm hearing out here in these streets, you know great not gonna blame the players. No For if you're not going to hold them accountable, who are you going to hold? The people who's the coach. No, the people who... There's two people that don't make no decisions
Starting point is 01:28:16 on the people that come there. The player or the coach. That's the whole point of basketball. You got the hand and you were dealt. Here, we're playing poker. You get one chance to trade out your hand. If he don't make it to the playoff this year, we're going to have to kind of lower him on the totem pole.
Starting point is 01:28:33 But Lucas said he's been vocal about personnel decisions. He's starting to get more vocal as the leader. Like, sorry, a guy who just turned 25 less than two weeks ago, you're telling him he know what it is the win He been he don't know who 16. Yeah, but he know I don't want to hear all them fucking excuses They can you know how to play defense play? Defense over there, you know, you didn't play D. No, we didn't you had to you did he just know why he had a love style Of play that they have they played with over there
Starting point is 01:29:04 But you had to play D. Euro League champion, Euro League MVP before coming to the league. Was he a Euro League defensive player of the year? No, they team was like that, though. Their team played team defense. Yeah, hey, go A. So now he know he don't have to do that no more. Because ain't nobody going to say nothing if I don't play no defense.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Nah, you're up there to take him out. Out? Yeah. But we are in the beautiful nation, the United States of America. Hold him accountable. His team, man. Like, you... Y'all are...
Starting point is 01:29:32 Like, think about it, man. He at home during the draft. He over where he's at during the draft. And those are the people they picking. Luka, what do you think about this? I don't fucking know. I just... The fuck do I...
Starting point is 01:29:44 I didn't watch this. Like, tell me, how many times have you gone into the draft and you knew who we was picking? If you're a student of the game, you're supposed to. You're supposed to. Especially if you care about the organization and the team.
Starting point is 01:29:57 He's 24. 100%. The top players is looking like, hey, who we got? Who the fuck is this? Why y'all pick him? Why y'all ain't pick him? 100% the top players is looking like hey who we got who who the fuck is this? Yeah Why y'all pick him why y'all ain't pick him after this and you're the guy why you say it was again Congress Why did you pick him you that means you already picked them? That means he already on your team Sorry, motherfucker. Are you on your team too late too late?
Starting point is 01:30:19 Right. You think you didn't call me pick the players that he wanted on that team don't do it I don't matter it do Hoopers so get the team that you got with the players you got and what have you accountability like they last accountability last place new be no playoff because this is the group they got you gonna play defense or not bro We're gonna leave by example or not. Let me tell you how sorry teams are if your best player is averaging 35 34 33 that lets you know how good the rest of your team is if they got an average like people don't take that in Consideration when you're averaging when you got a player that's averaging 36 35 34 How good is the rest of the players that he can't even delegate to them when
Starting point is 01:31:06 kobe was averaging 35 how did that team look when he won those two championships how much did he average then when he got paul gasol and all him what does his average look like then because he had better players around him so he don't have to average 35 or 36 points a game so the fact that lucas played defense so the fact that luc... Still play defense. So the fact that Lucas averaging 34, it lets you know what he really has on the roster. Colt was still playing defense. Win. It would never be an excuse.
Starting point is 01:31:32 It was never an excuse for Colt. Yeah, his defense was great when I gave his ass 60. I'm not going to play no defense. That defense was amazing. It was just like Sangoon's 45. And he made all teams. It was just like Sangoon's 45. One time.
Starting point is 01:31:45 That was one time. One time in history. One time in history. Sangoon? No, the 60. One time. All right. On Kobe.
Starting point is 01:31:55 One time. You can say he played defense bad one time, but that nigga showed up every night. And then he wanted to guard your ass because you was hot, and he knew how dangerous you was. That's what we talk about. We're not talking about the excuse. You're not going to shut everybody down.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Okay, so I'm going to take the 60 out. Yeah, 45 another time. Let me take the 60 out. And then my average against him, 33 points. Okay, that's great. Without the 60? And that's still just one guy, right? We're not talking about the whole league We're not talking about regular niggas like me going by Luka every fuck. I'm a
Starting point is 01:32:36 Lunch me come here Luka. I'm about to I'm gonna have 30 tonight cuz it's Luka I'm not doing that against cold like come over night. Come on over here. It's a long night. Gil, you're LeBron James. Come on over here. It's a long night. But that's the difference. I knew this thing. This was my understanding of defense, right? Whoever the best defensive player is on a team, I want him. The reason I want him is the best defensive player has no help most times most
Starting point is 01:33:10 times the weakest defensive player what always have to always has to have help so if i'm gonna go against the worst defensive player everyone's in position to help him no one's ever in position to help him. No one's ever in position to help the best player. So, therefore, once I get past the best player, no one's ready to help. So, I'm going to go at Klay, not Curry. Because if I'm going at Curry, Draymond, Klay is ready to help. If I have Klay, nobody's in position to help. But that's what good defensive teams do. They don't send the best defender at you. They send the subpar guy on you, and they let the lurker, the mic back, the middle guy.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Hey, listen, we got your help, bro. We know it's going to be a long night, but listen, make everything tough. And once he get past you, our second line of defense is going to be there every time. In the fourth quarter, you put the best guy on that I wore you down. I want the bet. I that's why I said I don't want rip Hamilton. I'm gonna just go at Chauncey But we're not the because I can't figure this because the defense is not designed to help Chauncey bill of the defense the team defense is designed to help Others rip, but we got Tayshaun.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Tayshaun, when he gets real tough, when he gets tough, but for y'all, we send Tayshaun out there and we say, hey, Rasheed and Ben, you help Tay as much as you can. They're not going to help Tay. But they will if they have to. They're going to go get some 3 and D defenders.
Starting point is 01:34:42 First of all, they had a power four that was 6- six for let's just be honest used to like you want if you want if you want To help Luca on defense. You need to start getting the back line and look like seven five seven three seven two They've been trying to get your rolls back there. They got Matt Kleber and We're just saying God God when unicorn was back there. it didn't look like his defense was that bad, right? It was. Unicorn would clean some stuff up. But they had him stretched out. Because remember, back then, he was the only five.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And they was pushing him out. I don't know. It wasn't this bad. No, Luka's defense didn't look that bad when he had him. And who else was back there? Chalice Chester was back there. Nobody questioned his defense. That was the old Tyson.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I know, but his defense wasn't questioned out. Yeah. His team is so small. It wasn't as low as Josiah just read. That defense wasn't that low right now. Well, think about it, too. It was his first two years in the league. He was still actually trying to prove that he could play in the league.
Starting point is 01:35:42 So he was actually playing some defense a little bit. Now he's gotten comfortable. Who? Very comfortable very cool Luca. He's got him very I look at I look at when I look at defense man It ain't about a player. It's about what what does the team defense look like are you even capable? That's what you said oh, no kid. No I'm talking about the you and the people on the court What is the people on the court of your beam back line is 6'4", 6'5", you're not stopping me. Like, if I'm going down the lane and I'm looking at... Tallest guy, 6'6". Yeah, 6'6".
Starting point is 01:36:13 What do you do when I'm jumping? I learned that from... You know who made me learn? LeBron James made me learn that in the playoffs. But that's not their line. Right, LeBron James made me learn that in the playoffs and after the series. When I'm looking back at tape and I'm like, how the fuck did they beat us? But that's not their line-up. Right, LeBron James made me learn that in the playoffs and after the series. When I'm looking back at tape and I'm like, how the fuck did they beat us?
Starting point is 01:36:31 And game one, like, what I learned was this. When LeBron wanted to come in the lane, he gave his coach that look. Sub, they sub out, El Gauscus. And y'all sub out. And we sub out our big man. Now LeBron James is the biggest dude on the court. And him and Larry Hughes is hitting that rim. Because when they jump, Michael Ruffin back there, 6'8", 6'7", he ain't big enough to guard them.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And I realized that was going on, that he wanted us to remove all the bigs so he can come in there and he's the biggest dude in the game. The sub was Varejao. No, Varejao was the four. He subbed in for Elgas Vareja, no, Vareja was the four he subbed in for a Galskus No, no sometimes and then but we said when Vareja went out we put in Michael Ruffin and we got smaller And I was like and then he just coming in there at Willie. Nobody can block his shot like that Let's get taller does he to get taller taller more athletic defenders. They think offensively Mark Cuban is thinking too offensively all the time Mark Cuban he's thinking too often. That's cuz Lucas good for business
Starting point is 01:37:30 Lucas Lucas great for business. We will see how the man play out. We're gonna die Let's take it 53. Let's keep this moving to the East Coast Lucas our plan is to get that four-file. You'll be like this. For sure. Stop, stop, stop. That ain't what we paying you for. We ain't paying you to play no defense. Moving to the East Coast, Jimmy Butler has made it clear that his approach to the game shifts as the season goes on. During a recent interview with Chris Haynes, Butler talked about
Starting point is 01:37:59 playing the long game each season and turning into playoff Jimmy after the All-Star break. So he said the following, you mean how can I turn into the greatest basketball player in the world all of a sudden? I don't know, man. I'm just different. I think this is when you're supposed to be playing your best basketball,
Starting point is 01:38:14 and you have to find a way to get your team to win these games when you're talking about the playoffs coming around. But even right now, you're getting everybody into their roles. You're getting into a rhythm. And with my music, I'm getting into my rhythm. Speaking for myself and everybody else in this locker room, we want to win. That's our focus. So the Heat are sixth in the East right now. And they're in the midst of a, you know, seven to one in their last eight games. But those are wins over the Pistons,
Starting point is 01:38:38 the Jazz. The only L they took in that streak is to the Nuggets. They also beat the Blazers the Kings Pelican Sixers and smack the Bucks But Rashad we'll start with you thoughts on Jimmy Butler Talking just in general about ramping up after the break and turn into the playoff Jimmy when it's closer to playoff time It's confidence coffee You just you just bringing it into fruition, preparing everybody for the big run they got to make to keep it up. You know, sixth spot is a good spot.
Starting point is 01:39:11 I'm thinking eight or nine with him talking like that. So he'll be able to keep that confidence into the playoffs, rolling in and knowing that he needs to show up for his team, depending on who they play. Who are you looking like they might play at six? Cavs. Cavs. Right, now say...
Starting point is 01:39:29 Could be Cavs, could be Bucs. No, we're not just going to say Cavs. If they move into five or they move into seven, who are their potential matchups? New York or Milwaukee. So they got Bucs, Cavs would be their most likely first-round matchups as of right now. They're in the six pot.
Starting point is 01:39:43 So we're looking at maybe a rematch of the first round Bucks-Heat. I do not want that. If they can start out. With Giannis. With Giannis healthy, right? So their most likely matchups right now. So we're just going to take away the fact that who they playing and just try to make up our scenario. No, because it's early. Six. Six is early. So let's say they lose a couple games and go drop
Starting point is 01:39:59 No, no, no. We're going to talk about what they play now. They playing Cavs. They playing the Cavs. I'm looking at Cavs being a dogfight matchup for them. And playoff Jimmy going to talk about what they play now. They playing Cavs. They playing the Cavs. I'm looking at Cavs being a dogfight matchup for them. In playoff, Jimmy is going to have to show up. He ain't going to have no... There ain't going to be no... He always does, though. He didn't six.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I ain't feeling it. He always does show up. So if he... He turns into a top five player in the game in playoff time. He has to do it again. Well, I like to go with what I know and I've seen him do it, so I believe and trust that.
Starting point is 01:40:29 I believe and trust, no matter who they play. You put your faith in Jimmy Buckets. For sure. Jimmy and Bim and Spoh. Huh. Spoh won't have the coaching advantage on anybody.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Well, guess what? Fuck Miami. Watch your mouth over there, man. I'm with the Heat. There's war in here. I'm with the Celtics now I'm why didn't change my team Jimmy all that Jimmy shit now listen emo show up with that perm against them against themselves is this time thinking sweet fan this time think it's going to be sweet. We got a different fan this time. So Gil, what do you think about Jimmy's comments
Starting point is 01:41:08 about ramping up as the playoffs get closer? It's a contradiction to everything that's been going on in life. Why is it a contradiction, Mr. Arena? They say that regular season they don't play hard and they're trying to figure out how to play hard and they done put into the INT or the NIT, whatever the fuck that new shit is called.
Starting point is 01:41:35 IST. The NCAA tournament. IST. You done put that in trying to get these guys to play hard and then on the back end we have someone like jimmy butler who who says publicly that he plays and ramps it up when it's getting ready for playoff time and then in the playoffs isn't that a bad example of what we're trying to push you're trying to push playing hard all season so the fact that like it's not a know, like his numbers don't really say he's, he does that,
Starting point is 01:42:06 but because it comes out of his mouth, it's a wrong look. Right. Um, to the point, like the fans are like, yo, we come to regular season.
Starting point is 01:42:14 It don't look like these guys are playing hard. Then he comes out and says it like you get paid for regular season. You, you, your game check is every game. So that's 82 games that we're paying you for the playoffs Cool. I appreciate the playoff atmosphere But as an owner my check is for the regular season this when we say you can you get paid
Starting point is 01:42:38 55 million this 55 million is 82 games not the playoffs So you telling me that when you at work in workplace on my dollar, you don't play hard? No, he's taking it to another level. No, no, yeah. But you're lunching. But what I'm saying is you're averaging 20 points a game on my $55 million, and then you're turning 35 a game on some playoff shit that ain't got shit to do with me?
Starting point is 01:43:07 Ah. You know what I mean? But that's, I don't like, I don't like the, the, the, the, the, yeah. I get it, I get it. You don't like, you don't like the opposite. Every top player, though, revs it up in the playoffs. But they don't come out and say, hey, man, I've been
Starting point is 01:43:22 lunching, and I'm just lunching out here and waiting. He ain't say that, he just say, say hey man. I've been lunching and I'm just lunching out here and waiting Yeah, I'm just waiting to say revving it up I'm waiting Ron Ron has said that before he Never get ready the goal is to be ready for the playoffs and be a top tier for the playoff That don't mean he was lunching my gym just means another level I could take it and we talked to Phil Haney But that's what but that's what I'm saying. I just don't like the optics. Yeah, it looks the vocalization. Oh, he said it He's literally said yeah, I think come out his mind mind and said, I don't really take this regular season serious.
Starting point is 01:43:47 I don't take the first half until after the break, then I ramp up, turn into playoff Jimmy to get ready for playoffs. So, Gil, you don't like the optics of it, but is that a good way to approach the season? For a vet like him? For a star player. For a veteran star player. Publicly, no. That's what I'm saying. Publicly, you can't a player. Publicly, no. That's what I'm saying. Publicly you can't say this.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Publicly. Right? Even though, let's say if you're averaging 29, right, and you turn it up to 30, 33, 34, that makes sense. Right? But you're saying you're averaging 20 in the regular season, you're going to 35, and you publicly say, yeah, I just coached through the regular season to get ready for a playoff. Yeah That's tough
Starting point is 01:44:28 Not on my Revenue up to like 35 in the place Think about you. I'm writing this check you had number six And you could have been two three if we play like you fucking up out where we are now think about if we lose in the first second round because of where we were sitting because you decided to be 20 and not 28 let me tell you something about miami though they only care about the playoffs yeah see pat ross uh it's either win or it's misery that's all that's the only language that they speak and it's either we win it all or it's misery and And so, the regular season is to get us ready to play
Starting point is 01:45:05 for the playoffs and win it all. However it looks. So, if we got to rev it all the way up just to make it there, we'd do that. But if we get to coast and turn it up, whatever the result is to get to the end result, that's the thought process. So, he reached the finals last year, but are they playing with fire with that
Starting point is 01:45:21 mentality? AFC last year, were blessed and fortunate to get Giannis hurt it's only been one team that won more games in them last day going state when's the last what they've been doing has been working when's the last time they won what happens here you looking at it you're ready he's allowed a year 20 20 20 13 14 7 13 oh it's almost 10 years I mean yeah but they haven't had no championship talent So I'm just I'm just asking them just a simple question. This 10 years. Yeah, 12 over 10 years They've knocked on the door. Oh, I'm just saying I
Starting point is 01:45:53 Knocked on the door. No, I'm not I just don't like I just don't like I'm the same the ten years ago. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not on the team now move places y'all move the door in there is it the door ain't there no more hey man is it a window it's a window now it's a window now they changed the code there's only been one team more consistent over these over the playoff wins right so whatever they doing is being working on giving them a chance to win it even though they haven't won it they've been knocking on the door with the talent that they have. Is it because you don't take the regular season series? No, they just don't have it. Because you don't take the regular season series? I mean, listen.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Do they wait because they wait to ramp it up? Two of the last four finals, though. They don't have the talent. I just said. Don't vocalize it. I just don't vocalize it. You know what I mean? Don't, like.
Starting point is 01:46:42 It's like women say. I know he's a basketball player. I know he's going. Just don't tell me you're cheating. Right. Don't. know I mean don't like it's like the women say I know he's the basketball player No, he's gonna just don't tell me you're cheating right don't I just just the do them if it just do what you're gonna do I'm gonna pretend I don't see it right. You know what I mean? So that's the idea like don't say it out loud that you don't go hard until Because the fans is like, you know, I came here to a dude go hard when they they had a michael jordan they had a kobe bryant right you know what i mean they they had a larry bird and the magic johnson
Starting point is 01:47:13 so when you say it you make a motherfucker like me look stupid when i talk about how bad the 80s was because they're gonna say well hey hold on they played hard They part hard all 82 games you But you talk about he culture as well, right? So shouldn't that be a part of the culture playing hard at everybody play harder. They do play hard I play that's even the thing with me. He made those comments But the comparables between the first half a second half. Yes, not a humongous difference there No, that's an output What you said is there when you look at that? first half and second half of the season. Not a humongous difference. No, that's not. In terms of output.
Starting point is 01:47:47 What you said is, when you look at that, like when he first said it, like a while back, I looked at him and was like, oh, he's trolling. But don't say it. Yeah. You know what I mean? You got to lie to the people. If Luka came out and said, yeah, I don't play defense until the second half of the season,
Starting point is 01:48:02 then I ramp it up when I get to playoffs, everybody's going to be like, oh, no. So you ain't giving no effort on defense until you get to the playoffs? Yeah. You see how bad that will look if it came out of his mouth? When I heard him say it, I watched the game and then I'm looking and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:48:19 what the fuck is this? Because I see it. I see you get in the lane, have a layup, and then throw it. And I'm like, what is he doing? Why is he doing that?
Starting point is 01:48:31 He's getting it ready. So it's like, all right, I see what you're doing, but if you get there and you don't take it to the next level to win it,
Starting point is 01:48:40 it's because you've wasted a lot of this ammunition during a time when you could have been intimidating guys. You could have been wasted a lot of this ammunition during a time when you could have been intimidating guys. You could have been doing a lot of damage during the midseason, and now you get here, and it's like, well, you got to deliver on what you just said now. Granted, most of the time, they'd be injured a lot of the times for the heat,
Starting point is 01:48:57 and they'd be healthy at the right time. Jimmy'd be in and out the lineup. Like, over the years, he rose in and out the lineup. The only one that'd be in the lineup constantly is bail and that's why when we had that discussion I was like you're right you're right Bama's always solid yeah so I just I like one thing I can't one thing I can't give you know the the 80s and the 90s the credit force they did come play hard every day. Oh, 82 games. Like, you would have never said, you know, you would have never heard Jordan or one of those older guys
Starting point is 01:49:29 talking about, yeah, you know, we try to coast it through the regular season, you know, until we get to the playoffs, and then we're going to step it up a notch. Like, nah, like, whatever the notch was, they're going to turn it up a whole nother notch. So, you know, I don't, like, even though I don't see none of the players just really looking like
Starting point is 01:49:45 they don't give a fuck and then turn it up, I just don't like the fact that you would put it out there as a narrative. Yep. Agreed. And the fact that the media
Starting point is 01:49:54 doesn't call it out is the horrible part of it. When we do have an in-season tournament that is because of this type of thought process. That's a fact. That's it.
Starting point is 01:50:04 But nothing against, you know, Jimmy, because I know he goes hard and he takes everything serious. Well, it's like when Giannis said he doesn't watch film, we know he watches film. But that's not obviously even in a joking manner, a narrative you want to put out there. Because we do have a lot of simple-minded human beings on this planet who will take that and run with it. Called the casuals. Yeah. Called it basic media. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:27 The casuals. Unlike Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code GIL, don't match your first deposit up to $100, and give you a free pickup. But y'all want to know,
Starting point is 01:50:36 as a star player, what was your approach to an 82-game season? 82 games is long. I don't think a lot of people really grasp going from October to April and what that entails. And even somebody like yourself who's an all-star, you don't get that all-star break. There's even more shit going
Starting point is 01:50:50 on and now you're supposed to roll right in to the back half of the season. How do you pace yourself? How do you basically break that season down? I never went into the season breaking it down like five games, ten games. That's what Coach does. For the most part,
Starting point is 01:51:07 it's game by game, West Coast trip. When I played, when we went to those dull cities back then, not even in Minnesota, but Memphis or one of them that
Starting point is 01:51:25 the team sucks there's not a high level guard i gotta sit there and try to convince myself so i'll come out the game and then i'll say that oh larry bird line right all right y'all we're gonna treat them like some hoes we're gonna get a little ass and then we're gonna get out of here so one of them can say oh hell no then i get my fire because you know when you know we played against the lakers we play against miami we play against uh that boston team when kevin garden and them got their sons our motors are already going right so for the most part when we're going through the season mentally i'm trying to stay with the same routine right be as consistent as possible stay with the basics routine, right? Be as consistent as possible. Stay with the basics
Starting point is 01:52:06 Make sure I'm doing my my my my everyday thing and make sure the team is functioning But you're right. There was some games where where where Jimmy would say I got this wide open Let he's been off for a little bit. Let me go into the game, you know trying to get him involved Right and then at the end I'll try to turn it up So there was games where you know, you to get him involved, right? And then at the end, I'll try to turn it up. So there was games where, you know, you, you would not go as hard offensively trying to get, you know, one of your guys, you know, involved, but for the most part, you're just, you're trying to win every game, but for the most, you know, it's, but after all-star break, you, you did, I didn't just, you did lock in different. It was a playoff lock in.
Starting point is 01:52:45 And then when the playoffs started, it was like a whole other level of everything gets cut off. All distractions are gone. You know what I mean? That's the difference between a regular season and a playoff. In the playoffs, it's only about the playoffs. There's no, we're about to go to Miami this week. We're about to go to Miami this week. We're about to go this. In the playoffs, it's like hotel, make sure we're stretching, drinking your water, getting hydrated, watching your film. It's detail-oriented.
Starting point is 01:53:13 So it's not like you're doing anything different game-wise. You're just taking all the distractions that could have. The work ain't really coming like that. No work, okay. No. The work is shut off. It's important, but just in terms of, like I said, the grueling aspect of that season and now making sure you have enough.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Shit, it's a championship, so I... But even for North. How did y'all, yeah. But making sure you have enough to make that playoff push. We did like a build-up type of thing in Miami. So early in the year, like we always go hard, but it was about establishing habits. So we would like, our playbook would be only a certain amount we'll work on certain plays certain
Starting point is 01:53:48 plays certain coverages and some games we wouldn't make an adjustment we just do that just so we can master it and like sometimes Paul would not make an adjustment on purpose like you know people started downing people started like being in drop you know we was a show team we would show a lot and I was always over never under set for like specialty guards like Rondo so I was people started like being in drop you know we was a show team we would show a lot and i was always over never under except for like specialty guards like ron don't so like so it was always what we would call the harder way the more difficult to take more effort away but that was to get us in habit in training mode and so when we got to like the second half of the season
Starting point is 01:54:19 like conditioning part like the vets you could tell the vets will start doing a little bit more on the treadmill, you know, getting their cardio up ready because, you know, guys are going to probably start playing more minutes. The rotation sometimes will get shorter as we get closer to the playoffs. So now you, like, you got to make your mark on the team. So, like, can coach trust you? Are you going to be in this top eight, top nine rotation or are you not? And so then the cold tub, you start focusing on that
Starting point is 01:54:45 because we know who we about to have to start playing. I know for us, we knew we had to go see Indiana, Chicago, Boston. Those was going to be three slugfests, all of them. And so we started preparing our bodies and minds for that. And for me as a role player, I wanted to make sure I was in the most tip-top shape. So the closer I got to playoffs, the more weights I was lifting and the more conditioning I was doing to make sure I could press full court, to make sure I'm only going to play 20, 25 minutes. I could play 25 max minutes, like balls to the wall for 20, 25 minutes straight. And Bron and them would make sure their shooting touch was on point.
Starting point is 01:55:21 The closer we got to the end of the season, D-Wne, Brian, Ray Allen, they would be in the lab. You know, they always shot extra shots, but they would be very specific in how many shots they would give to make sure they got the best shooting rhythm. Even in the game, they would take almost more shots later in the season to make sure we was going into playoffs they had rhythm. Like, they would even take tough shots, like, just to work on their shot-making ability.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Because you know, the playoffs, sometimes they know the plays. It's just a matter of can you make the shot on the defense or not. So as the season would go on, they would start working on their repertoire. D-Wade would start working on that double-head fake fadeaway off the glass CB. He would be real technical in his positioning. So that's how we rev it up. It's not that we didn't play hard in the regular season. It's just that the intensity, it's a certain intensity when you're playing for the marbles. When it's like we win, it's good.
Starting point is 01:56:15 We lose, it's a failure of a season. That's a tough... For us in Miami, that's what it was. If we won, great. We lose, you suck. It was the worst ever. And so that's how we revved it up. They didn't win over there, man. Okay. Rashad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They didn't win over there, man.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Hey, I'm not that far in front of you. I'm not that far in front of you. They call me Raphael in the chat. They are calling you Raphael. You look like Count Fulmartin, man. Leave me alone, man. They called you Dragonfly McKenzie. McKenzie, I was just right in front of you. I lasted just a few more games in front of you.
Starting point is 01:57:02 McKenzie, make it to the playoffs. There's a black man for sure. Gil, you made it to the playoffs. conversation. I used to cook Cleveland. Who's the cook Cleveland? Pass the torch to the next conversation. I've got shit to say. I will be watching. I didn't win.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I didn't win. Nothing either, boy. That's... But I knew. I knew. I will be watching I didn't win nothing either boy but I knew I mean like you know like playoffs was different man I'm not even gonna lie it was
Starting point is 01:57:32 that intensity was way like even when I went to go like like this is you're talking about like 20 year old brawn dog when we was playing him in the playoffs and you know when we over there gambling right and he watching you know when we over there gambling right and he watching you know the tv with the the screens with the extra screens inside of him
Starting point is 01:57:52 he's sitting there taking notes and you just like me i'm like none of that going to work right but the fact that i remember him doing it like oh he got our game here he got other games that's going on he's watching Detroit he's watching you know what I mean it's just like yeah it's like a mental thing yeah it's like a mental thing because even though he's watching our series he's watching the other series too right so you can just only imagine that means someone taught him to do that right that means the Kobe's and LeBron I mean you know the Kobe and the jordans and all of them guys was probably on that same flow yeah all right well let's keep this thing in motion uh nba dunk contest used to be the highlight of all-star star weekend uh this year's version left much to be desired two-time all-star zion williamson
Starting point is 01:58:41 is willing to participate in the event next year under one condition. I got to do my part and make the All-Star game. If I'm in the All-Star game, I'll do the dunk contest. But if I'm not, not doing it. Well, then you're shaping to be an All-Star then. That sounds like... No, no, no, don't do that to him. Because he's an All-Star if he ain't shaping.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hands down, everybody's voting him All-Star. Being coming into the season in shape to get an All-Star game. That sounds like a threat to me. Because he'll an all-star if he ain't safe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hands down, everybody's voting him all-star. Being coming into the season in shape and getting an all-star game. That sounds like a threat to me. Because he'll win it. Yeah. He'll win it. I don't think Norris knows he'll show up to the show,
Starting point is 01:59:16 and he'll put his hands on you. Yeah. His hands will pull up. His hands are like they were in shape. You think? What's he saying? His hands will move. Me, when he put them on his head. We were out there.
Starting point is 01:59:28 I heard what you were saying. I heard what you were saying. We were out at Summer League. We were doing a show at the Blue Wire Studios at the Wynn. They got a big glass window that anybody could see in as they're walking through the hotel lobby. He happened to be walking through while we were in the midst of another glorious episode of Gil's Arena presenting my underdog fantasy, Woop, whoop, whoop. And we was talking about him. Saw Gil.
Starting point is 01:59:47 In the moment. Like he was probably watching it. Oh, these sneaks. You got scared? Ah, nah. Nah, I'm just saying. You know how like somebody put your hand on your shoulder? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Ready. That little grip. Like, oh, wait, hold on. Oh, kung fu shit. Oh, shit started going down. I heard what you were saying. Huh. Came in looking like J things were tucked in we had some gentleman's cut courtesy of Steph Curry Boy in the aftermath, but I want to see Mount Zion that's what the shoe everything. That's that's what we want to see. Hey, man. They keep talking about my hat man
Starting point is 02:00:21 All right, man. All right. Don't let the don the chat bully you. Nah, man, the chat know. I don't know. Wear what you did, Gil. There you go. Right. Oh, yeah, you got to show that. Oh, wait, that's your autograph on it? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Yeah, autograph, man. I got my own checks now. Yes, sir. Just got to get the G right. You can't be letting the chat do that shit to you, man. You know. They right. They can see.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Fuck. I was already insecure about the hat anyway. Like, why don't fold it? You know what I mean? Talking about the br anyway like why don't fold in I mean and There's like just turn it around got it sitting at your house you sit in it We sit at your house got it. Thank you chat. They turn it around. They see that they house right whose house is better Somebody said Gil is not the 2000 stop wearing your hat like you bout to shoot a music video with Chingy That's exactly the one I
Starting point is 02:01:06 see. There's nothing wrong with shooting a music video with Chingy or the early 2000s. I like that. There's nothing wrong with the 2000s. Hey, Chingy was a beast back then. You know, for our age, man, we don't want to look old and outdated. Yes, I do. You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. I got jokes.
Starting point is 02:01:21 I don't want to look too young. I got jokes, too. That's why I dress like a Cook these new what y'all better cut it out at a spot. I know your mama Your mama stop your mother may be in the chat as well. I know your mama Now but for real now we want to see it Huh Zion and you know, you know what that they're all I mean the dunk contest could be revived next year as Zion Jalen Green,
Starting point is 02:02:08 Jha show up. Those three right there. Man. People would be like, I bet. The dunk contest is back. That might make Zach Levine want to jump back in it. We might get blessed with a real one. Aaron Gordon might jump back in it. You know what I mean? It could either end racism or increase it.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Mack McClung, two-time champ. The man is in the G League. But Zion needs to get to that All-Star game. I appreciate him for saying that. Yeah, I'll do it. Because I'm sure if he's not in the All-Star game, the hell I'm going down there. I'm going down there. I want to see him just shatter a backboard.
Starting point is 02:02:39 But let's talk a little bit more just about what Zion's doing on the court this season. I know you all saw Stephen A. Smith get packed up by the Pelicans account. He was going a little too hard on Zion. Hasn't been watching enough of his games. A man that's been doing his thing. Zion's been the subject of criticism the past few seasons as he's battled injuries, some off-court issues, you know, some work-related, some health-related. But he's been playing well this season.
Starting point is 02:03:03 He's averaging 22, close to 6 rebounds, 5 assists. But more importantly, he's appeared in 51 of his 62 possible games. Pelicans are holding down the 60 in the West right now. During a recent interview with The Athletic, Zion had this to say about his commitment to the game and his squad. He said, people don't understand how much I really love this shit. I pour everything into doing my best for the team and for the people who support me in New Orleans.
Starting point is 02:03:30 I mean, when we talk to him, man, you can see that he was passionate about the game. There's just some times, man, that when you're giving everything with no guidance, with no rule book of how you're supposed to be a pro, you can get lost to the elements, right? And, you know, the elements for him was, you know, food and hoes.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Why did I say it like that? In that order, Gil, or... I don't know, it's probably a combo. Going to dinner, you know what I mean? Don't say hoes no more. Work. Thank you. Okay, so say hoes no more. Work. Thank you. Okay, so work.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Food and work. Right. So those were his two vices, which those are not that bad when you think about, yeah. You know what I mean? The things we know, so those what he has is fixable. And that's just maturity and try to really understand that, you know, both can take you down just as bad as the rest of them. And, you know, when you're talking about, you know, in season stuff, you know, you know, calories is a big part of the season. Right. You know, calorie intake, because as hard as you're going, you're not right. You know, you have more off days and you have game days
Starting point is 02:04:47 So, you know, that's what I said. I gained weight during the season and just from drinking Gatorades on the bench Right, and I'm jumping on a scale like wait what the hell just happened? Alright, so I had to like dilute it get the g2 and dilute the g2 right so all mine were like g2 Technically G we have water. Yeah. Technically half water, G water. Yeah, so there's a G water. That's all it was. It was, you know, with electrolytes in it, just, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:05:13 So, you know, you have to be cautious of what you put in your body while you're playing also. Calories and malories. The thing is that we have access to all that now. What? Nutritional health. Yeah, we didn't before. I mean, you know, you have access to all that now. What? Nutritional help. Yeah, we didn't before. I mean, you got access to all that.
Starting point is 02:05:28 There's other veteran players that's willing to help you if you reach out, if you don't have too much pride to reach out. I don't think there's no excuse. I think he's a talented player. He's a supremely talented player. He's a top ten player in this league when he's healthy and in shape. Nobody's like Zion. He's one of the most, like how you got LeBron, how you got Victor, Wimby.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Zion is in his own category as a specimen, as a player himself. And we want to see that as basketball enthusiasts and basketball purists. We want to see the best in shape in their element so that we can enjoy the game. Tell them how you feel. It feels like with Zion, he got a lot of heat and was getting a lot of criticism after the in-season tournament. Pelicans got smacked up by the Lakers. But this squad, currently fifth in the West. They're playing well.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Fifth in the West. Does this seem like people just forgot about him? He's not being talked about in the national media enough for what he's been able to accomplish this season. But Brandon Ingram is the man on the team right now. And so he's playing right now because he had a slow start to the season. Ingram took the reins. Like, you know what? I got it.
Starting point is 02:06:33 And so he's just playing his part. They're winning. So there's no need for him to be selfish and try to be like, you know what? Let me get back to my normal average of 27. But that two-headed monster right there, Zion still leading the team in scoring. Brandon Ingram, I think, right below him.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Zion at 22, Brandon Ingram at 21.7. Ingram's playing amazing, too, but it just seems like those dudes are getting lost in the shuffle when you talk about the Pelicans being fifth in the West right now. Consistent. They're just playing.
Starting point is 02:06:57 They're playing good enough to win, but not good enough to catch anybody's attention. I don't think nobody really want to play them, though. I think, like we was talking about the other day 22 was Brandon Eagren's average? 21.7 So about that 22. That's average. That's nothing. For elite players. We don't even see that right? You need 25, 27. That's when we like because when i watch them play they zion defers a lot to the other guys and he has to force his way to get to his 22 and those forced points that he's
Starting point is 02:07:35 getting is all right i know i gotta get to the bucket i know you can't guard me boom but that could happen throughout the whole game and if you get three buckets a quarter, that's 24 points a game just three buckets You know I'm saying like you said if you in shape that's not it's eyes closed, right? So even for bi 21 points a game you really But y'all winning so it's no pressure about to say there's no pressure. So It's tough it's tough for both of them yeah just because a small market already yeah and they went in so it's under the radar so it's gonna be way under the radar in the West right so I know they just need to figure it out
Starting point is 02:08:16 I don't want to be a hypocrite cuz we want to winning matters you know how we were saying Luca got like elevated numbers but you know the hill play no deep not at winning Cures to him not averaging 27. I am mad at him every 27 if they want it. It's just how he's getting those 22 points The motor can be you can tell if you watch the game Oh, well, it can he can take it up to another level if he's in a little bit better shape So you do you think do you think um do you think he's conserving himself a little bit because of he needs to play a certain amount of games this year for sure doesn't he have like a uh he already missed that
Starting point is 02:08:56 i thought he missed that cause already i think it's just like over the next couple seasons i believe if he hits a certain threshold of games. Yeah, because he's playing. All his money ain't just guaranteed. You got to make a threshold. Weight and amount of games. I thought it was the weight thing that he missed already. No. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 02:09:12 It is not. So what it is is it's not the last two or three years is not guaranteed because he missed games last year. So now he's still playing as a restricted free agent. Yeah, turn the salary from guaranteed to non-guaranteed, I think, for the next three seasons. That was the thing that you're saying, conservative-wise, is in the back of his mind. He already fucked some shit up. I got to be healthy. I got to make sure I ride the thing out.
Starting point is 02:09:40 Get some solid numbers. Continue to be free. the thing out. Get some solid numbers. Continue. You know what I think we don't pay attention to them is because him and B.I., they're doing exactly the opposite of the metrics of what the NBA is right now. That team shot
Starting point is 02:09:57 49 threes last game. Between them two, they took one. They don't shoot threes at all. They don't shoot threes at all. Right? So it's not, you know what I mean? Play to their strengths.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Yeah, they're just playing to their strengths. So it's like one of those teams that they shoot a lot of threes, but the two-star players don't. So it's not sexy to what. It's not entertaining. Yeah, it's not entertaining. They're turning to San Antonio. It's not very loud.
Starting point is 02:10:19 They're not very loud at what they're doing. So they need to somehow create. Which I'm cool with that, though. As long as you win and get the results you want. I don't like the whole everybody play the same way. I like when there's diversity in the league. But they turn into Memphis, where it's like it's grind and grit, small market, and it's not entertaining.
Starting point is 02:10:40 So it's like you find yourself not on TV, you find yourself not on SportsCenter, you find yourself like, oh, we just got a couple highlights of y'all doing what? Because you're not shooting threes. But they winning. But they winning. Don't we prioritize winning?
Starting point is 02:10:53 I prioritize winning overall, so I'm cool with it. No, for sure. Keep doing what y'all can, just get in shape. Dude, why the hell are you holding your hand? You can't be out there. Someone said I dress like an AAU dad on Saturdays. Brother, that's what I do every goddamn day. Can we get you a Bluetooth?
Starting point is 02:11:11 Can we get you a Bluetooth? Hey, they be saying I be dressing nice at the games, though. Can we get you a Bluetooth and a bag of Chili Cheese Fritos? Damn. I had a Wizards jersey. You had it locked up. MJ Wizards jersey, just like that. I was going to wear the MJ.
Starting point is 02:11:26 What's the name of the jersey? They were questioning the jersey earlier in the show. You had it locked up. MJ Wizards jersey, just like that. I was going to wear the MG, what's-his-name jersey. They were questioning the jersey earlier in the show. They said it was Fugazi. Somebody in the chat had to point out. No, that's a hardwood classic. That's a hardwood classic, baby. That's my point. Somebody in the chat had to point out the man's wearing an old jersey. That's official.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Mitchell and Ness right there. Because my hat just came out, y'all. My hat. Marshall's clear as crap. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying. Put your fingers, man. What I'm saying is today, Washington is about to be sold out and
Starting point is 02:11:49 not because of the players they need to have I'll just promote and trolling in the chat man every time y'all talk about what they saying we embrace it now. Because you know why? The more people in the chat, the bigger the chat. I'm not that drunk. I mean, you know, Twisted T ain't that... Twisted T was responsible for some of the comments Gil made earlier in the show, so, you know, we will be dealing with that, obviously, afterwards.
Starting point is 02:12:18 But again, Rashad, your point. You're saying Zion, if he was a 25, 26, 27, kind of what his standard averages are, he would get a lot more attention. But we also talked about, we bashed the dude for not playing, not us, but some of the media bashed him for not playing, talked about his weight, talked about his work-related issues. Now he's doing all those things.
Starting point is 02:12:37 Mm-hmm. Under the radar. You don't want to say nothing. No work issues. Give credit where credit's due. No work issues. I mean, he's having a great year. He's playing solid. He's been there. He's been I mean, he's having a great year. He's playing solid.
Starting point is 02:12:45 He's solid. He's been there. He's been healthy, and that's really all that matters. Yeah, he don't need no attention. I mean, I think the way he's played it has gotten the attention off of him about all the negative things, so he can just fly under the radar. I just think that when you're at that elite level and you want to make the All-Star game, it's got to look a little different.
Starting point is 02:13:08 Still only 23 years old, though, which I think gets lost in the sauce for what a lot of people are talking about. B.I., only 26, I think. So that core C.J. McCollum obviously doing his thing, Trey Murphy, they got a squad that could potentially make some noise in the postseason. 50 right now if the
Starting point is 02:13:25 playoff started today they would be playing the Clippers do you think this Pelican squad can make any noise in the postseason I see you making that face at me anything is possible though it is the Los Angeles Clippers a great team great coach but historically prone to tricking things off. Come on, there's there's hot takes and then there's reality. Okay, hot take is, ooh, they might beat the Clippers. Reality, no.
Starting point is 02:13:55 They have no chance in hell so we ain't even going to put that and you know I don't even like the Clippers but I'm not even going to let them they not lose. Fix their mouth? Yeah, it's one is them they not lose one is a superior team one is a young team
Starting point is 02:14:08 right it would take all of those guys really just playing out of body and Zion really turning it up and it's going to take a team effort for them in the playoffs that's a team effort
Starting point is 02:14:24 I just don't think they're ready as a It's going to take a team effort for them in the playoffs. That's a team effort. I just don't think they're ready as a group yet. Those are one of the groups that will be next year. Zion played a whole year healthy, got into the summer, and then came back on vengeance mode. They can possibly be how Timberwolves is this year. That can be them next year. Or you can be like, oh shit, New Orleans is top three in the West. That could be them next year. Rashad, you don't think Chance and Hell will beat the Clippers?
Starting point is 02:15:05 Nah. They just kind of like Cleveland on the East. You got a chance to make it to the playoffs, get in there. They'll get four-tubed. They're not ready. Like you said, everything you said, they're not ready yet. They don't got no real
Starting point is 02:15:18 solid dependable pieces to beat the guys who have already been there, done that. The older guys have got shit to really play for. So it's too much to prove on the West for them to get past a lot of those teams. I believe they're 2-1 against the Clippers this season. One of those wins came before the December surge.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Just pointing that out. Okay. Sharing your – I know. You did. Thank you, Gil. Thank you, Gil. Thank you for pointing it out for me. I mean, you pointed it out for me.
Starting point is 02:15:47 All right. Let's move on to our last segment of the day. Mostly fans. Presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo! If you have not done so already, download the Appy's promo code, Gil. They will match your first deposit up to $100. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:16:01 There it goes. All right. Uh-oh. There it goes. All right, our first question comes from the chat. It's from underdog fantasy user Don't McCants Me. I did not pick these questions, Rashad. I remember this nigga from last year. Okay, as you know, I'm very supportive of you and your contributions to the program. A lot of red, though.
Starting point is 02:16:23 We will discuss that after the show who will have a better career Chet or Shang-Goon That's all I'm pointing out. Uh... Damn. I don't know the answer. The reason I don't like this answer, I don't really... I can't really swear, because Sangoon can be the next Joker. Right. He can be the next Joker.
Starting point is 02:17:01 He can just be a one-year, two-year type of guy. Chet can turn into something We haven't seen before so Y'all know you like age Chet is older than Shangoon even though shanghoons in his third season Chet in his red shirt rookie the same age basically Yeah, I'm just saying like I mean because we have a yoke itch. We we can see where Sangoon is heading. Right. Right. Jokic with a little bit more ability. And then Chet is going to have certain stats that Sangoon can't get. That's a tough one.
Starting point is 02:17:34 That's a tough one for me. That's like asking, like, Garnett and Dirk. Which one had the better career? Stop it. What's the answer to the Garnett-Dirk question? No, no, that's not the question. Okay. I want to go there. You said stop it what was the answer to the garnet dirt question no no that's not the question okay i want to go there you said stop it i just wanted to know if you know yeah i'm just i mean singoon reminds me of luis gola so big that can pass he can make some moves he's got the euro centric ball game i just don't see it moving past.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Well, just the way that they play defense, he can get away with a lot of shit, just like Joker get away with a lot of shit. And Chet, as big as he is, I never really liked his game. So I would go with Chet just because he's on a good team, and if he stayed with that team long enough, his career would be a lot better. But in Houston, they're going to end up moving Sangoon just because they're not used to keeping pieces. They're going to move around.
Starting point is 02:18:34 They got stability now with the coach. Yeah, they're not winning. They're not getting rid of Jalen Green and Sangoon. They're going to have to. I mean, I think because of their price points and obviously this new CBA. Yeah, them two players. I mean, I think because of their price points and obviously this new CBA. Yeah, them two players. I mean, that's their one-two.
Starting point is 02:18:47 They got good value when you look at it from the way that they're showcasing them. But just the way that I'll see talent and compare to talent and how I see how he plays compared to Chet. I'll pick Chet. I don't know how to start balance this year. I think we're going to have to do it. I don't know. But I'll pick Chet. We're going to all-star ballast this year. Shanguna's that dude. I will point out again, they're similar age, but Shanguna in his third season,
Starting point is 02:19:12 Chet in his redshirt rookie season should be a second. Jalen Green ain't SGA. Let's put it like that. That could make a difference. That could be the difference. But it looked like Shanguna, you could throw him the ball and say, hey, work. I don't see him giving the ball to Chet and saying work.
Starting point is 02:19:29 Well, he has the opportunity to be able to say, hey, go to work. Chet is SGA, and it's Williams out there. And Chet, he thin. It's a different style. They're centers, but they're just two different types. Two way different styles. They're just two way different players just two different styles. Two way different styles. They're just two way different players. That's why I can't even judge on them. You got us on that one,
Starting point is 02:19:50 man. Yeah, I was about to say, you stumped us on that one. Don't McCance me. Enjoy your $50 underdog fantasy donut. That's a hundred. You got to give him a hundred. He stumped us. If underdog does not give you the hundred, contact Gilbert Arenas. We couldn't answer it really like that.
Starting point is 02:20:08 It's a group. We might have to debate that on the show in the near future See what everybody thinks like you can play make sure I'm not on play through All right, so we got another question it's a video question from underdog fantasy user still wavy If y'all had to rank these hood classics from 1 to 3 belly set it off and Dead presidents, what would it be? So rank hood classics? Best to worst 1 to 3 belly set it off their presidents. That's another I'm at where I'm at. I'm gonna be where I'm be I Don't give a Y'all remember that Dear president if I had to be where all my hoes want to be I'll be confused. Yeah, I don't know no fucking Kiana Lot of quotables and all
Starting point is 02:21:06 Sorry, can't read no books man. Just can't eat no book. Can't eat no books. I like that Oh, yes, one says belly dead president set it off set it off classic Always wonder why Blair Underwood didn't star 69 or after she hung up but that's neither here nor there no they don't order Jada was tricking in that movie I don't even know they were tricking with the boss mmm you're the boss that movie that's when leverage was leverage that's what our money made that's what money really mattered never know that's the first day you want this rent money In the car you gonna stay the night the whole night to Dead presidents and belly belly at three. I like belly
Starting point is 02:22:06 But I like I like I like belly, but it was like we think about the production of it of it all I'm like, that's probably opening one of the best. I brought it like the cheapest one out of all of them Don't bring those no good. It's no good. Don't bring those kid business around here, man Huh? Yeah, I'm really set it off Billy and then that's what I said like belly like That's what said if he's like if it wasn't if it wasn't Nas and DMX, right? What the fuck were they talking about that home quality acting? Fuck is you doing he was not a dollar money. Yeah that fucking money, nigga! Fuck is you doing? He was not counting the money. Acknowledged.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Your mans? Yeah. Your mans? Your mans? Like, what was the whole plot of the movie? Like, we going to take these bricks. That's what it is. We going to take the bricks.
Starting point is 02:22:57 We going to get this money. That's what I said. Besides DMX. Get this money. That's what I said. Besides DMX. Nah, we over here like. Going to Africa, dude. When you think about it, I'm going to Africa. not we over here like going to Africa when you think about it
Starting point is 02:23:05 I'm going to Africa She's going to happen Lennox. Come on, though Like it was a good movie, but it's like very very vivid. Yeah, come on man. That's him was Robbery it's been about it's been they spent a whole cool 20,000 on the movie. That wasn't yeah Come on, but y'all trip belly character family for the second So I'm gonna say the state who have more production that I don't like that shit one bit Who have more production that are bats? I got the Ava race on nigga had the Ava Rex on in the end Come on
Starting point is 02:23:44 Dollar production Williams Movie Hey, come on man. That was a $10,000 production. That was a $10,000 production. Hype Williams, bro. That was a music video movie. That was a music video movie, you figure? The first ever. It was a long-ass music video. That's all it was. Very well stylized.
Starting point is 02:23:57 100%. But back then, those were the type of classic movies. You know what I mean? Those were the type of movies that was considered classic. Shout out to It was those are the type of Keisha's kids Keisha consider classic shout out to clean one of Keisha back there Cleaner from there come here Keisha. Yes. Come here. Let me show you Jack City or no Jersey Drive. It wasn't in the chat have no idea what we're talking about Yeah, yeah, they know they do they do yeah, they know blockbusters. You know I think about blockbusters They know how to Google it
Starting point is 02:24:34 They Google cuz they gonna they try to check me with googling like me and guess Colby and I realize My rookie year counted two when I got in the game for two three minutes, okay, then count and I feel average 24 Yeah, when I didn't play I still have 24 a lot of classes you need to familiar side I'm familiar. I'd be mad cuz they go straight to Google Kobe first Gilbert And I did not take it in account that my first two years. I didn't get in the game One minute two minutes fucking Google a 24 motherfucker. Still 24. Motherfucker, still go to chat GPT, get your more precise search engine
Starting point is 02:25:09 optimization. I go to just game. I just go to the games, okay. Watch the game. The game itself, okay. I click the game, okay, he played that game, okay, he didn't play that game, okay, he got in, got hurt, that game, let me... All hood classics, though. Shout out Belly belly shot I'll set it off shout out their presidents
Starting point is 02:25:27 I don't know. They're not three the best hood classic though this day. It's a classic But I'm saying they're in the other say they really missed out They could have acts would have been more interesting conversation central shit like that like like what I think yeah, you know central great film Yeah, my man ace Paid a fool no more a damn fool. You know me paid him for like you guys some other ones out there That's a little more interesting. Just saying Ray Ray Don't be loose It's a old
Starting point is 02:25:59 Play with me man Don't be a man. See, that's a man Buddha. Don't be a menace. While drinking your juice in the hood. Quality Phil. Huh? Message. Message? Shout out to the Wayne. It was funny.
Starting point is 02:26:12 It was the Wayne Shannon was funny. They funny as ever. Ever. I said, do we have a problem? Do, right Phil? Juice? And did y'all ever like shots of... You're gone too far, man.
Starting point is 02:26:20 A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. A little slow. Juice You're gone too far He's the letter she are you're gone too Big talk every time I follow his keys. You don't know too far
Starting point is 02:26:45 Let's move on to our third video question and shout out blockbuster a lot of you guys will never know you were not outside Our third question the video question underdog user quitar 215 My question is Gil who your top five players to wear number zero besides yourself. Whoa? Shit I got this top five we're gonna go Westbrook, Dame. Right, careers, like overall careers, right? Your top five players who are number zero.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Westbrook, Dame, Tatum at three, Love at four. Who has longevity? Drummond. The Drummond? Drummond played most of his career in zero, right? Yeah, so those would be mine Okay, that's for no Orlando Woolwich Was that double zero or that was regular zero regular zero? Well, no, no, I said Orlando Woolwich. No, I said Tatum. No, I said a
Starting point is 02:27:39 Westbrook Tatum let Westbrook name love and drumming. Don't work. That's fine. That's my father No, no Tyrese Halliburton. He's played two years. His career ain't better than drumming's right now. I'm just saying. We're not talking about the hottest niggas right now. Nah, you right, bro. Stand on it. Oliver Miller.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Better than drumming? Oliver Miller? Better than drumming? Sheesh, man. Better than drumming's? Not better than drumming, bro. Oliver Miller? Shit, I'm sitting there. If you add me in there. I'm sitting there like Probably right at five Who? Robert Harris knows double zero both Like that's I said like even if I had myself I'm probably what maybe right in front of drumming
Starting point is 02:28:22 maybe what maybe right in front of drumming maybe not only because i got three all mbas and you get the name agent zero yeah like so like i'm i will be behind i will be behind love and like career you said dame right he's he's second behind westbrook do your list westbrook tatum dame kevin love andre drummond who's the sixth man coming off the bench? He said Kevin Love. Disgusting. At four? Ugh. The fact that you even said that was like, wow.
Starting point is 02:28:53 What? Kevin Love can't get no love? Hell nah. Hell nah. The real Kevin Love was number 42. He was trash too. What? Yeah. Fuck Kevin Love. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Don't fuck with that nigga like that. What's going on? Is it Drummond? Is it some person? Caleb Drummond? Oh yeah. He played in Minnesota. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:15 I knew it was something. I'm like, man, what? Yeah. When he throw in fuck the person, he be like, wait hold on a minute. It's people with Kevin Love for sure? Yeah. What? Fuck the person Yeah What Well, what the way we never Wesley love the Marcus what what number did the markets were the whole time was it did he always
Starting point is 02:29:37 continue Pelican You know the Marcus not as for him, but I mean I'm talking about people who wore the, who like, they have numbers in the numbers, right? They got to have, they got to have a resume in the number. Fair. We're going to talk about this, Kevin Love. We'll have to talk about this. We're going to have mediation.
Starting point is 02:29:56 What did Kevin Love say? He didn't say something. You need Woosah or something? Hey, Chet. A lot of niggas don't fuck with us. A lot of niggas don't fuck with us. You usually say that. A lot of niggas on fuck with
Starting point is 02:30:09 I just love Okay, I'm gonna please we can say because he said a lot of you He takes a lot of shit so if it just comes out you know wait a bit We know spectrum but we know about the McKinsey next so we know we appreciate y'all tuning in with us for another episode of gills arena presented by underdog fantasy Nå er vi på Norske Norske Norsk. Læs merks på min kanal សូវាប់ពីបានប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់ពីប់� Stamina Kanskje vi kan ta utsida av denne videon? Продолжение следует...

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