Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Breaks Down Zion SILENCING The HATERS

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts to Zion Williamson SILENCING The Haters as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew break down his 36 point ERUPTION against the Minnesota Timberwolves and discuss if the recent comments surrounding his weight lit a fire under the New Orleans Pelicans Superstar. They also discuss the Detroit Piston's HISTORIC losing streak of 20 straight games and if the team led by Cade Cunningham is just young or actually bad before moving over to another massive losing streak in the NBA as Victor Wembanyama and The San Antonio Spurs aren't far behind with 17 consecutive losses. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:07:30 Gil Is Giving Away 5 Grand!!!! 0:17:45 Craziest Thing A Fan Has Asked You For 0:19:42 Dillon Brooks Stare Down 0:25:33 Lakers Are Hanging an IST Banner 0:31:41 Most Embarassing Banner 0:38:29 Ideas For the In Season Tournament 0:41:05 Zion Silences The Haters 0:48:11 Is Kahwi Showing The Clippers Are Still His Team? 1:15:11 Time To Start Taking The Clippers Serious? 1:21:38 Demar DeRozan's Best Trade Fit 1:24:13 Coby White Shining In Lavine's Absence  1:31:49 Spurs Lose 17 Straight Games 1:33:30 Snell Games 1:39:58 Who Wins a 7 Game Series Between Spurs & Pistons 1:44:20 Mostly Fans 1:53:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me. This is my store. This is what I was doing when what nobody looked. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Selamat menikmati Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! As always, the pre-show combo combo sometimes better than the show combo but not for y'all ears for our ears own you're dramatic did you got a martini

damn look at this is a rich this. This is espresso martini. Too much on the espresso or the martini. I don't know. See, she was trying to give me one of them. How you feeling about five-time NBA champion LeBron James? Congratulations, y'all. Lakers, I ain't seen you gentlemen since. It's OK. We cool.

We good. You know what I mean? Now he's celebrating in these streets. But don't go that far, though. Congratulations y'all leg is a senior gentleman His celebrating these streets, but we don't go that far though See the tournament for us one. So I can't know you say the first That's what's up though. Thank you. We are the champions So y'all are okay with me call the champs there was a tournament and there was a champion crown Is there like a cutoff like they get like what two weeks of being the champs like me to be On that shit is over. We should we should where's our where's our parade? Thank you This is the second fucking championship. We got no parade no parade 2020 no parade

How the fuck can we not get a parade in 2020 because of COVID but it was marching outside the whole goddamn time You know, we could have just jumped We could have just jumped in there and thrown some motherfucking yellow and gold. Priorities game. Taking knees to the neck. I was out there marching the whole time. Priorities game. But we couldn't do a damn parade.

Ain't that a? So y'all going to be the champs until? No, like 361 more day, whatever. Oh, yeah, we the champs until the championship champs. So the end season tournament champs. We the champs. Just depending on how the finals go I think the tournament might be the more important

Lakers and the champion Nuggets, that's how we go. I'm not season. No just Lakers. No, it's right now It's like the Nuggets championship there their rain ended. Okay guys showed up too. So I was happy to see that Yes, the man showed up big game, baby. Yeah, you had a big yet. I was happy to see that. Yes, the man showed up big game, baby. Yeah, yeah the big yet I was yeah, I forgot the night one shit. Yeah, I was happy to get so long. I think everyone else did too Don't do that now Yeah, I got I got the little in season shit talking about y'all forget who won. All right now Besides y'all fucking self. Everybody forgot who won nobody talk about them no more

Because the hype was around in season tournament not listen you but it served this purpose this Served its purpose. So we're gonna talk about that in a little bit, but We appreciate you. This is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy as always. We got the legend Gilbert arenas here with it Oh, you got the furred game. I'm starting Ferg and Martini? It's over big, man. I thought it was going to close at the top so I can do that. No sandals, though. No open toe. No open toe.

Lexi Brown back here with us. Productive. Productive past few days. See you out in Vegas. Vegas. See the tournament. Getting it. Was it fun?

Was the atmosphere fun? It was fun. It was. Yeah. I've never been, so I was comparing it to to maybe like an All-Star weekend type vibe, but I've never been to an NBA All-Star, so I didn't really have anything to compare it to. So for being that my first NBA event, I had fun. It's like store brand All-Star weekend.

Yeah. Right. So, I mean, I'm pretty sure Lakers is favorite in the crowd because of the laser up there. But in season tournament, like, who's the one that do they get to host it next? Nah, I think it'll just be in Vegas. It's going to be in Vegas. Always Vegas. Keep it in Vegas.

Like that first game, the Pacers. That's some bullshit. Who did they play? Bucks? Like, there wasn't a ton of people in there because the game was at 2.30. Yeah. So, like, there was people in there, but it was like. You know. You know who moved the needle. When the Lakers came, like, there was people in there, but it was like... You know.

You know who moved the needle. When the Lakers came, yeah. We got Kenya Martin back here with us. What's that? You know? We've been waiting to see you. We had some things we wanted to discuss with you. Well, you guys are, like, matching.

Truly humble. I know. As soon as I open the door, it's like, ah, shit. It's close. It is. It's close, yeah. You have plans?

Not plans? Yeah. Nah, I'm not planning. Come on, now. Nah, I'm not. It's close. It is. Oh, yeah. You have plans? Not plans? No, not plans. Come on, now. Now I'm mad. It's martini day. Our niggas just got martinis around here. Yeah, everybody martini day, man.

So you want a martini? Nah. You know. I'm about a once a month beverage consumer and hit my limit. Here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Zion Wimps saw all the slander and responded by giving the league's best defense a 36-piece. The Clippers have won four straight games, but is it time for the rest of the West to start taking them seriously? And the Pistons and Spurs are having a mid-off, but which team will end their losing streak first?

Damn, why y'all use that picture? Yeah, why that image? Damn. That mid-off is crazy. Suck that blue! Damn. But before we get into all that, as always— Yo, how'd you end up like that? I don that picture. Yeah, why that image? Damn. The mid-office crazy. Suck that blue. Damn. But before we get into all that, as always. Yo, how'd you end up like that?

I don't know. In an NBA game. I'm pretty sure if they played against you back in the day, you know, coming to the lane, they would have ended up like that. Nah, I wasn't doing that. Was it a close line, people like that? I hit one person. Oh.

I hit one person. Now it's for Zeke's honor, so. Yeah, I went upside one person's head. In that manner. Before we get into everything we got on this show, as always, brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Do yourself a favor. Download the app. Use promo code GIL.

They will match your first deposit up to $100. You can get these pick-ems going, get best ball going. A lot of activity in these streets. And... Hey, man, hold on. Y'all some violent motherfuckers out in Detroit, man Michigan man's whole Michigan folks is all living No, Detroit Kalamazoo all is BS. It's real like that Jack

Lance, how do you? 45 be 46 and Okay, so you... Oh, so you don't got that... Okay, so you don't got the Draymond in you. He got the pure pistons in him. Yeah. See, people don't know, I know. Draymond was conceived on that first championship.

I'm pretty sure... But 2004, we hear that. No! Wait, what? The 80? Oh, hold on. I'm pretty sure he had to be born. Let's why didn't we they were celebrating did it was telling all we won dream hungry March 4th 1990. Yes, I mean I Yeah, right. Yes He the spirit of the Troy 1990 Shit. Wait, Jamal was born in 1990? Yeah, he was born on that first championship.

Yeah. But is that good or bad? No, I mean... Like I was about to say. I'll just be feeling like real young. Oh, you are. Enjoy these moments, all right? Yeah, so, yeah, so that, yeah, after that championship, he would have been born at...

After 89, right? Yeah. Yeah, you're young as shit. Yeah. See, I'd be having too much information. Whoa, if we go back... Yeah, right after the championship, nine months later.

Steve, during that first... The first run, yeah. Yeah. Ooh, interesting. It was like, we need to add to this business. Came on green. Gorilla clue. As always, we do Mostly Fans

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Live with us on YouTube, we have Audio versions available, Apple, Spotify I do the same shit every show, y'all know what the fuck I'm doing So I got a question So are black chucks the equivalent to black Air Force Ones? A little bit Absolutely not. Like the light-skinned version. The light-skinned black Air Force One. No. The reason we wore black is because, you know, we were scared to wear any other color.

Yeah. Right? So black was like neutral. I understand. Even gray was like, oh, you're a crip. Like, oh, no. So black was neutral. Yeah. So if you wear black, he's like, okay He has no game pass couldn't be a fan of No, no, yeah black Air Force ones means dangerous well, I work black girl. I got some black Air Force at the house Yeah, we figured We figured you have just just just blow you saw I used to

When I was getting them when I was playing I'd have as many blacks as white be I had a nice I had like six In the stash, I kept like a like a nice six. That's a lot for just that The white ones we understand because they get scuffed. All right, why do you have so many black ones? So my son, so Cameron, he got some black ones over there, but he got some supreme ones. I'm like, so just because they supreme, does that make it okay? I'm like, are they still- The answer is yes. Not as scary.

Man, not as scary. Man. No, this is not as scary. So if I wear my Black Air Force 1s here one day, y'all know what it is. Damn, oh, shit. I'm going to just keep the head down on the computer. I'm like, Lexi, let's switch seats. I need to get closest to the doors I can. Well, we got the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy coming oh so soon.

And this week, we are doing our open tryout. Saturday, December 16th, starting at 9 a.m. That is 9 a.m. at the District in Chatsworth. Everyone's invited to pull up, get some shots up. Most of the Gills Arena crew will be there at certain points and times. Obviously, you know we don't show up on time. Show's supposed to start at 11.30. It is what it is.

But pull up at 9 a.m. 16 tryout winners will be allowed to compete in the Gills Arena shootout. times. Show's supposed to start at 1130. It is what it is. But pull up at 9am. 16 tryout winners will be allowed to compete in the Gills Arena Shootout January 20th, 2024. And also, if you want to pull up and you're not in the area, you can sign up on the Gills Arena Discord page. We're selecting two fans

to participate in the event as well. Take on the whole crew, our two celebrity creators, Jester and Jenna Bandy, for a chance to win $100,000. Pull up to the district. The address is 19851 Nordhoff Place, Unit 104, Chathworth, California. We will have security there in case you're feeling some type of way. Security.

Security! We know how y'all be. And Gil also got another special announcement. In our never-ending quest to show love and break bread with the gills arena community Gil is giving away five thousand dollars if the gills arena YouTube reaches four hundred and thirty thousand subscribers by Thursday That means you got a good 48 hours. Maybe about 52 said how much? 5,000 good. No, I'm you got it. What no, I know what no what we are right now We're at 4423,000.

And you said we get to $430,000? $430,000. By when? By Thursday. And I give out $5,000? You are going to give out $5,000 of Gilbert Arena's cash. Why? To reward our followers.

Okay, all right. Does this count with the $10,000 or I still got to do that? Once we get to $500,000, according to the legal team over at Underdog. Alright, get us the two, you said what? 430. 430 and I'm giving away five grand. So tell all your friends, family, cousins, uncles, aunties.

Gil got it. That's a haircut for him. So he got that five right now. You know I got your house bought, right? She might be documenting all this He gave me five friends his Supporters some motherfuckers he don't even know yeah as long as I don't got your accord like job show how to check the ball No, I thought it was fake like they got

Show us how hard you threw it. Okay. You just started you gotta get out We got a you got a pass it first to it. This is a golden dunk Let's see how vicious this dunks are like they showed up the K love I don't know if he made that done, but the K loved one to bring in the basketball shoes by chance That's what I'm saying, but they use that as the example. How am I getting this? So we're going to do what? Five people, what was it? Five people, 1,000, or 10 people, 500? We'll let the chat decide.

Chat, should we do five people, 1,000, or 10, 500? Just think about it. You can actually have a better chance of getting some bread. All right, man. Start making fake accounts. Tell your friends. Hit the subscribe. Come on.

We know how to do this. We know how to do it. Just know how to do it just boom boom You got to give me your bread chat already complaining Just be happy with the bread that we giving you ten people five hundred we got it Oh ten four five ten four five. I see smart check. Everybody can get a bag if you pull up So we do it Thursday. We'll announce it on that Thursday show if we do it by 1159 59 seconds on Thursday No, you can sip on it, right? Like you like, you know, you don't have to drink it right? No. No, the reason I do that is because every sip hurts

So if I just get it all down get it out of the way we good but you know the faster you drink it the fact it just has a Greater effect right all right, so next time just ask for a shot you just bring a shot of it No, you can bring more espresso-martini shot Whoa, so I'm guilt arena. We show love to our fans Kevin Durant not so much Katie and the Tories for embarrassing people on the court and off the court as well So recently a fan asked KatieD to send him some KD-15 Aunt Pearls. The Sim Reaper added another victim to his list, responding,

go to Google and type in nearest Foot Locker. What? Do people still go to Foot Locker? I don't know why, because they ain't going to be in there. They don't be having nothing they ain't gonna be in there Now you don't have to go to Them what's the name resellers the resellers get taxed on it what oh it's disgusting But question for the crew. What's the craziest thing a fan asked you for?

And Lexi for you craziest thing within reason that you could share on the show? Because I see how reckless and out-of-pocket the chat be. I would say, like, I get asked for feet pictures a lot. How much bread? They don't be offering money. They're just like, I want feet pictures. I'm going to start your OnlyFans joint

for them joints, man. Only feet. You ain't got Hooper's feet? Only feet. Right now, they're kind of rough. I could use a pedicure right now. But no, my feet are pretty cute. Like, when I wear heels and stuff in my pictures, I get a few comments that talk about my feet.

You zooming in on toes now? Toes? Seem like it. So what's the amount that somebody have to offer you to get you to seriously consider sending a feed? I'm not even going to say no. 500?

Oh no. Thousand? Thousands. 5,000. For some raggedy ass toes? They're not raggedy. Oh, I'm just, I'm just the concept of raggedy toes. It's just toes, concept.

It's like, it's the principle of me sending, taking pictures of my own feet and sending them out. Like I'm taxing that because like that's 5k one per toe Let me get 10% I'll manage and you gotta give me my 500. Hey ladies if y'all want to see my toes if I'm just saying, fine. This is nice. This is cute. Hey, no, listen. No, for niggas, no, so, listen. I don't know, whatever. For this man to be an athlete and all that, this shit ain't bad. I told you. I've seen way worse.

Listen. Yeah. I still got color. We've seen way worse. Yeah. Yeah. Now, my feet, I take care of my feet. What do your feet look like?

I take care of mine. We did not have Gil's feet being shown on the show on the rundown today, but here we are. Ooh, now my shit dope. I wear my shit out all the time. Yeah, feet pictures are great. No, I take care of mine. So, Gil, what's the craziest thing a fan asked you for? To take care of their kids.

Oh, no. Oh no, oh no. Damn. Yeah. Two, it's actually two ex-WNBA players. Okay. They wanted my genes, the loins of my sperm. You didn't do it? Oh, like your genetics.

Oh, I was about to say. They wanted my genetics. I was like, they wanted your pants. Hey, I'm all for that. Gil, make another superhuman. So this is when I was with the Wizards. So this is back way young. And they wanted me to...

Your loins. You know me wanted me to yeah your loins You know me Only we can do it the regular way Nah regular way, I don't know how to proceed you go to the regular way one said yeah Sit down a can we have a meeting? Sit in, boom, drinking and stuff. I like the thought process. Your genetics is good, and oh my, do you have any kids?

And, you know, we're thinking about having kids, and we love your... Oh, they were like a couple? Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah, I told KJ this. Absolutely, I'm dead-ass serious. Because you're right around, listen, man, go told my I told KJ this Absolutely, I'm dead ass serious Because you ran around listen man go get that thing snip before you do put some in the freezer. Mm-hmm, right? use it later

Find you somebody that Played that's athletic and go have one. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we made not here Good. I don't know who those players are but do they play for Easter conference or a Western conference a for the mystic? Okay, that's what I was getting Work your magic chat lab baby. Yeah, we're trying to have a baby. Yeah, we're trying to have a shack with a jump shot Let it like LeBron We're trying to have somebody out there with what that Katie and jumping like LeBron And shooting that thing like we're being Liz Cambridge shit like that I'm damn with it. So Katie, what's the craziest? or came our what's the craziest thing a fan asked you for?

Is this probably somebody you don't know like eggs like pay their bills or some shit like that like don't know you but I Get my kids is you know, he kids is homeless and stuff like this. Shit. Go under a bridge. Should Robin Harris say, well, shouldn't you be at home with him? Shit. Shit.

Why? All right, let's keep this thing moving. God rest that man's soul, man. Baby kids. What? Well, shouldn't you be at home with him? So Dylan Brooks has fully embraced his Dylan the Villain nickname. He's going to great lengths to troll opposing teams and players.

So Houston Rockets sideline reporter Vanessa Richardson called Brooks up to his usual mischief during the Rockets-Nuggets game recently. So he was staring down. He does this often, but he was staring down some Nuggets players. Nuggets could only sit there and laugh about it. Jamal Murray decided to join in on the action. Is he looking at the players or is he looking at the sideline? He's looking at somebody. The players will be on the court. He looks like one of them dudes in Hollywood that be dressed up in all silver like the robot They ain't gonna move till you put five dollars in the bucket

So gotta ask you we talked about Dylan Brooks a lot and I know we have some opinions on my last two fucking much in my opinion So that's breathing my question. Do you love or hate Dillard Brooks antics? I love them. I would take that stare. I love them. So funny. He's growing on me. I don't mind him anymore. Right. He grew on me.

But that is funny. I guess he found his, I mean in a sense, he found his niche. He found out how to stay relevant in a league that he wouldn't be known for. If it was just his talent and what he did, he'd just be a normal player below average. But the fact that he has us talking about him is no different than when Dennis Rodman was doing his thing. He created it.

It's a lot different. Which part? That man out there averaging fucking 19 rebounds a night. It's a fucking lot different. Yeah, that's back then. Yeah, it's a lot different which part that man out the average is fucking 19 rebounds a night. So the fucking lot different Yeah, that's back there. Yeah, you fucking this a whole lot fuck No, I mean in the sense where he's created this this personality, okay, and you can't be a Mid to low player blow player and have all that shit but people keep giving him attention So why would because it's social media fucking shit people pay their shit attention?

They stopped posting Doing that shit would ignore. I don't think he was stopped doing it. We thought I met somebody go get that boy some medicine Yeah, good. It is medicine. What need medicine is what we would say He signed with that 80 million dollar deal with the Rockets this offseason. So, Cameron, I think I already know your answer, but I ask y'all, too. Does the NBA need more trolls like Brooks? Is it good for the league to have this dude? Basketball players are good for the league.

As long as they got good basketball players, they're good. Really good. Yeah, yeah. They got some really good ones. That's all I'm saying. I'm going to the Internet, people. Yeah, that's really good Internet moves the needle No more trolling got it he got it But then it's Robin was enjoyable in his heyday else not to put them on the same level obviously

He's kind of a troll but Katie, you know know. I mean, you have to have a personality. I mean, like, Joel Embiid can troll whoever he want to. He out there bitch averaging 32. Yeah, he's hooping. Chad brought up Lance Stevenson, one of my friends. He said, like, he was... But that was only the one person. Ah, no, that was... He blew LeBron's ear.

That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. You got to laugh at somebody like that. For somebody to do that, you got to laugh at him. Even I would have laughed. Like, that moment, I probably would have laughed. Like, he would have did that shit to me. I probably would have laughed.

Like, this motherfucker. Yeah, like, right, the Lance was funny. Yeah, I probably would have laughed. Like, even just his normal, just him scoring and playing the guitar, shit like that. He's like, oh, he'll irritate the shit out of somebody. We've got the Pat Bevs that we've talked about too, guys. Cincinnati Bearcat, Lance, dude.

Oh, he's Cincinnati too? They different out there. Yeah, he went to UC. Would you consider Pat Bev a troll? Yeah. He got moments. Westbrook's a troll. He was.

He was a troll. Oh. Okay, so what's the... How is your behavior on the court? Steph is a troll. In a sense, you turn around, just do this shit right here, go to sleep.

There's levels to the troll. You remember? Do that layup and just keep his arm up the whole time. Turn and shoot. Look away when he shoot that bitch. The ring me in the third quarter of an NBA Finals game Was probably He can do that now that we've broken it down a bit what are the levels of trolling I was a trollin I Don't know y'all y'all would know better than me because we don't really have that many trolls in the W

So I think you got to be really good. Yeah, like I mean the feet like you like I If social media was in when I played oh my god, are you too big beat up? I probably got beat up good. Yeah, I'd probably got beat up You got took out the air. So I would have fucked you beat up. I probably got beat up. Yeah, I'd have probably got beat up. You would have got beat up a lot of nights. Yeah, I'd probably get beat the fuck up. You would have got took out the air. Somebody would have fucked you up. I mean, that motherfucker like, free throws.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I got you. Yo, Gil would have been. I got you free throws. Yo, somebody would have, yeah, it would have been a lot. Yeah, I'm telling you right now, yo. Yeah, I got you one of the green.

Let him pump fake. Gil would have been, Gil would have needed the stitches all the time. He would have been coming down right on across his forehead with help. Gil, one of the forefathers, though, of basketball social media. Oh, no, I had it, but I wasn't really, like, talking about, like, people themselves. I told you, I had to, when I talked about Dwayne Wade before and what he did to me after, I was like, I'm good. I'm not going to, I'm not just poking.

I remember seeing your Instagram post when you first started posting because your captions were like this long Yeah, they'll that long give this man a blogger. No, I had beef but I got beef and I ain't posted twice Like some random picture and then but long been enjoyable to read yeah decipher what's going on. Okay, bro And you know back in the early days of the beef. Some people are fans. Some people aren't. That's why we need security next time we're in the Pacific Northwest. But nonetheless, let's talk about these Lakers a little bit.

Most storied franchise in NBA history. It's well known that they only hang championship banners. But after winning the inaugural NBA Cup and becoming champions once again, there was some speculation as to whether Lakers would acknowledge the championship with the banner. At Staples, and that speculation is no more, Chris Haynes reported that Lakers will raise

an in-season tournament championship banner inside Crypto Arena. So, you know, Lakers fans kind of mixed feelings on this. And as the great Kobe Bryant once explained, the Lakers have one rule when it comes to hanging banners. This franchise does not hang division banners. It does not hang conference championships. We hang one banner and one banner only, and that's NBA titles. And you may not like it.

You may think it sucks. You may think it's not great sportsmanship Get over it. It is what it is. It's the city of champions for a reason Shout out the Kobe highlight for that great video This is a championship like I'm sorry, even though it's the first one like like we five ten years from now This is gonna be a normal thing and this is gonna be a championship and they're gonna do Like everything we see on the championship. They're gonna do it for this too. They're gonna make this an event

They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna spread time. So like right now we got it on Saturday They're gonna give it a week ten years from now It's gonna be a week between so the team can celebrate or whatever the fuck they want to do They're gonna make this an event. Just like they do everything else. All-Star weekend was, what, a day and a half, two days at most. Right? Right, K-Mart.

The game on Sunday. First thing is Tuesday. Game on Tuesday. Yeah, game on Tuesday. Do you think that they'll shorten the season then to let that happen? Like the number of games? Because the money they're bringing in from this would definitely make up for that, you think? Because that's the only way they'd be able to do that

is if they take away some regular season games. Mm-hmm. Take away five games. They're going to have to if they want to. See, Don, you start like that. When you start doing that, you start altering history. I'm with you. You start.

But didn't they already do that with this championship game, not counting towards official stats, 80 dropping, 40 and 20, and it just disappears into the universe? I agree with them. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, hold on. So these stats don't go towards your regular? Just for that one game, the championship game.

The finals. So the Lakers have 83 games. Pacers have 83 games this season. But that one game. Doesn't count. Oh, then we should be. No, no,'t like also 80s. That's don't count that 40 and 20 So we should be able to also like wait a minute a championship game don't count the stats Is that I should be able to substitute whatever steps I won then I got 83 and let's go ahead take out this 075. I should be able to do that. I get to pick which one.

It's the same thing for the playing games too, though. Those stats don't mean anything for postseason. It shouldn't matter because the motherfuckers shouldn't be playing. Because it's the inaugural season of it, I think they should do it because it's the first one. I'm with that. But anything after this, let's just get the season going, man, back going. Yeah. So, Lakers initially said that they wouldn't hang a banner, you know, following that

Kobe mantra. They should hang banners. Say it again now. They shouldn't hang any more banners. Championship banners? Yeah, it just, no, it just shouldn't, yeah, because it's the first one. So, also, according to Chris Haynes, the IST banner will be a different shape and color than the existing NBA championship banner

to make it distinct, and there will only be one IST banner where they'll add the dates and years should the Lakers win additional championships. Yeah, I don't think you should, yeah. Do you think this is... It should be like the high school joint when you got the banner,

you just keep adding the years that you want to come to the division and the city and shit like that. Do you think the championship should be played also we here? Midway is the midway is the midway Like I think that like for the notice for it to be like really serious. I think it should be midway In the season art it later. Yeah, it should be midway in the season. Start it later? Yeah, it should be like when game 41, so you see who's the best midway team. Versus the beginning, like you're talking about most of these teams,

you know, they're already starting this. They're not even 10, 15 games to the season. I think it should be when they're around that 40 mark. When they're around that 40 mark, it lets you know who's who. Yeah, but I think the whole idea of this thing was that November and December would be boring as shit. Guys would really be putting forth their maximum effort at that point. Ratings probably were down.

As you let teams like the Pacers do their thing. Small market teams got attention. Indiana, New Orleans. It just seemed like at the beginning of the season, it just don't seem like it gives you... It doesn't tell you anything.

That midway championship? No, it doesn't. It doesn't need to. It's supposed to be like this fun thing. You do it in the middle of the season, Indiana's not making it out of group play, I don't think. Well, that's even more, you know what I'm saying? Like... So you want it to be like a mini playoffs before the playoffs? of group play, I don't think. Well, that's even more, you know what I'm saying?

So you wanted to be like a mini playoffs before the playoffs. Yeah, like see, people still going to compete. Like All-Star weekend, right? It's like the best coach by that time is the All-Star coach, right? Best team, boom, win the championship, bam. And what they probably took into consideration too

is the injury aspect of this. You get them early in the season, more guys are available. Huh? Yeah. More guys are available. Because look at like a Phoenix. They ain't going to win their group in February if they're all healthy. Do we feel like the league strong-armed the Lakers

into putting this banner up? Because Jeannie initially said she wasn't fucking with it. No, they probably thought about it, man. Talked about it. Did Adam Silver, you know, make them an offer they couldn't refuse? Yeah, we always say some shit until we get it. Yeah, we don't give a fuck about this in-season tournament, but we win it. Hey, I love this in-season tournament.

Yeah, I feel like you said something very similar not too long ago. I don't remember when, because obviously we do a lot of shows together, but basically we're not going to give a fuck about it unless we get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to give a fuck about it until I win it. Yeah, I'm just excited to see what it looks like, the banner. Oh yeah, because you got to look at it. Mm-hmm.

Is it going to be little? Is it going to be half of the size? What if it's bigger than the WNBA? Would you be mad? Yes. What? Why would they make that bigger than a WNBA championship banner? What's the most

embarrassing banner that you've seen in an arena? Embarrassing? When you look up like, this shit don't have no business being bannered. I'm not even going to lie to you, anytime I look up I'm looking to see how many points I got. I've never just randomly looked and seen like, oh shit, when I look up in the sky, I got 32, 70, okay shit. I need four more points.

I'm sorry, I never looked looked at it see who's retired Not even shoot around you. Oh And no points on the board in what I'm looking up for came our up Yeah You know, we just Know Any embarrassing banner this damn boys here the mist Speaking of the message doing your whole No. I haven't seen any embarrassing banners. This damn boy is hell. Speaking of the Mystics, Gil, and your whole gym store, they had the 2002 WNBA

Attendance Champions banner. Wait, what? And the 2003 WNBA Attendance Champions. For the most people that ever came to the game. That shouldn't be bad. Yeah, that's probably the wildest shit. Colts have a 2014 AFC Finalist banner that they hung. That shouldn't be bad. Yeah, that's probably the wildest shit. Colts have a 2014 AFC finalist banner that they hung.

There used to be the Taylor Swift consecutive sellout banner at Stables, but apparently the Kings started hating, had it removed. Oh, they took it down? Haters. That is some hating shit. Yeah, them concert banners, I saw like a Elton John Take this shit home the fact that they do Miami He got Michael Jordan Jersey up in that bitch is the wildest one wild shit of respect or no They do it's respect with Steve they retired his number to that you can't wear 20

I guess he must pair on his ass so much. He had to retire to shit. Oh, yeah, he beat us first Got me fired I guess he busts Pat Rodgers' ass so much he had to retire this year. Like, oh, yeah, he beat us first championship. Got me fired. Banner. Yeah, no, I just don't. Yeah, that's weird. That is weird. So let's talk about the in-season tournament a little bit. There was some concern about what the ratings would look like,

but the results are actually pretty good. According to the league, the IST final between the Lakers and Pacers averaged 4.1 million viewers, peaked at nearly 5.7 million. That's the highest for any non-Christmas Day game since February of 2018. LeBron became a five-time champion, five-time championship MVP. Good game.

Do the ratings prove that the in-season tournament was a success? It was a success. What ratings? That one? Just alone? The championship itself? Because the Lakers is in it? I'm pretty sure.

I don't give a fuck who the Lakers is going to play. Any Moscow and the ratings would have been that high. Just the overall ratings themselves? They didn't get popping. The ratings didn't get popping in that arena until Draymond choked choked somebody I googled I looked up all the stats I looked up all the stats after Draymond put that choke hold on that Frenchman right after he put the hold on that Frenchman right had him tapping out yeah arenas over COVID is gone boom everybody filled up that arena again.

Didn't put him to sleep. No mask. Didn't put him to sleep, according to Rudy Gobert. It just felt like he done choked the COVID back into the world. We was, the U.S. was happy. People, there was an arena screaming, U.S. of A. But that's actually when the ratings in the arena went up. I mean, just stats say.

Right, okay. And I got a problem. That's actually when the ratings in the arena went up. I mean, just stats say. Right. Okay. And I got a problem. I didn't realize how small NBA arenas were. In comparison. Have you played in them? There's arenas in college that got 35,000. They see 35,000.

And footballers. No, this is college basketball. Which ones? Was it Syracuse? Syracuse Fucking dome no matter put it put it in a team in it. I don't count they got 26 Kentucky okay this could talk about it goes one. There's like there's five. There's five colleges before they even get to the NBA

Okay, basketball. Yeah, Kentucky Louisville, I believe. Louisville. So, Carrier Dome, 34,000. Rupp Arena, 23,000. The KFC Yum Center, 22,000. Dean Smith Center has close to 22,000. Tennessee's Arena has close to 22,000. Those are the five. Shit, I played in that KFC Yum Center for a regional final, and they had that shit full. It was a lot. Yeah had that shit full. It was a little bit as is it as five then NBA the biggest arena will be

Is it? With crypto be up there. No crypto is at 19 like seven one seven. Did you go find your paper? Oh, yeah, yeah, don't got my According to Google Yeah, not a center to 21,000. Close to 21,000. And you got like five teams that's at 17,000. I'm like, Jesus Christ.

See, if we can get rid of those five, then we'll have the best attendance in NBA history. You see how you can just manipulate shit, get rid of the five at 17, and then start doing the shit from there. Boom. So let's talk a little bit about just the in-season tournament in general. At 17 and they start doing doing the shit from there boom So let's talk a little bit about just the in season tournament in general and like we said that that championship game Yeah, you get $500,000 Money's always great But some have suggested that the winner of the NBA Cup get an automatic playoff spot But I think with ten teams already making the postseason now, that's just like if you don't finish in that top ten

But what spot? Well, I'm saying you should. Like, some people said seventh or whatever, but it's like, well, if I finish higher than seventh, that shit is irrelevant. Yeah. So I just want to ask you guys, what added bonus should the NBA Cup winner get? I got some suggestions. So option for a tiebreaker. Let's say you're in the season tie with another team.

You can use that NCAA Cup championship win to put you over the top, or you can just say, I want to stay in the place that I'm in. Or give the team extra bread on the salary cap that they got to use within that 12-month window before another... Give me a lottery pick. An extra lottery pick? But, like, the 15th?

No, give me a lottery pick. The 14th lottery pick? No, no, no. So pick. The 14th lottery pick? No, no, no. So make it a 14th lottery pick? Sorry, 13. Just say you protect the top eight. No, 14.

14. You're going to get 14. Because you can't win the in-season tournament and just say you go make the fucking finals and you get a top three pick. No, no. Why not? Lakers did that. That's how they got Magic. Lakers did it. That's how they got James work

They got worthy because the Cavs owner will make the 14th pick put asterisk by yeah Garrett like okay get an extra team is that he gets a 14th pick like you like reward with like reward winning for once Right, I'm which I can I can I can go down and I mean like Lakers get the 14th pick in the NBA draft Like reward winning for once. Right? I'm with you. I can go with that one. And I mean like Lakers get the 14th pick in the NBA draft versus the 30th pick they get every year. They have to use that pick. You got to win it. Now, I guarantee you every team will be playing.

You own it. So you automatically get it so you can use it. You can use it for whatever the sport. Whatever benefits your team, you can use it for whatever benefit. I'm with that. Now, think about this. Now, think about they won. Now, whatever benefits your team. You can use it for whatever benefits. I'm with that. Now think about this. Now think about they won. Now you help your team get better.

They won that right, and they got the 14th pick. Now I want to make a trade right now. Yeah, trade that. All right, I'll give you Rui in our 14th pick Chicago. You give me Zach Levine. Now I get to keep my guard. I give you the 14th pick in Rui. Give me Zach Levine or something.

Now you got real leverage. Yeah, no, I'm with that. That's all right. That's all right. I give you the 14 big in Rui. Give me Zach Levine or something you can now you got real leverage. Yeah, I'm with Guys don't know how they would manipulate the playoff spot That's that's the like damn that yeah Let me take that extra championship We're eating some making the playoffs you have some vibe like you should like yeah I know I feel about nine and ten so So to give some team an automatic bid because they could, the rest of their season can be horse shit.

Just say if New Orleans would have won it, right? And the rest of their season, and they win 37 games. They get a playoff spot? I can even do better. Let's just say Detroit or Spurs win it, right? And then I win it. I get a guaranteed lottery pick or a playoff spot, and then I tank. Right?

My tanking gives me laughs, and I still get a playoff seat to make money in the playoffs. Shit. Yeah, that wouldn't work. And damn, I'm going to get hot. But you have to win. I'm going to start playing well and win the playoff and win the first round or something. Like, it's sports. It is sports. I mean, hot. I started playing well and win playoff and win the first round or something like There could be sports

It is I mean hot. I mean just for the team itself like like to really give like a Team like that real motivation, right? You you start throwing like something that really matters to us getting better right a lottery a lottery pick like when you're like like a team like, let's say, Phoenix, Sacramento,

let's say even Miami. Miami, right? They went to the championship last year. They weren't that good, right? They weren't good enough to not have a lottery pick. They were one of the teams that should have a motherfucking lottery pick right to help that franchise get over the hump

or or keep them you know for the future so um if they're the one to end season boom now you got guaranteed 14 you go to the championship now you know during that draft and you get that 14 pick fair that helps you yeah okay adam silver take notes and credential us because we could tell you this in person make it a lot easier but we know y'all watch the show but let's get it going with a little bit of hibachi time so we got to talk about zion williamson again after a few bad games in the end season tournament some slander from around the sports media world and within the pelicans organization We got to talk about Zion Williamson again. After a few bad games in the in-season tournament, some slander from around the sports media world,

and within the Pelicans organization, Zion bounced back against the Wolves on Monday night, giving the best defense in the league that work. Let's look at this man. So Zion dropped the season-high 36 points, going 13 for 17 from the field. Pelicans took down the current top team in the league. He's been dominating the Timberwolves for a while now.

In his last three games against the Wolves, Zion is averaging nearly 39.6 rebounds, five assists. He actually does have a soft touch, though. Yeah, he does. That man is a beast. He's very big. Up there. Getting it. So, you know, we talked a lot about Zion on yesterday's show, but we got to address it today because he shut his haters up for the time being.

But what message did Zion send his haters with this performance? Same message I was saying yesterday. I'd be mad if I got to trade him, right? Because if he decides to turn into what he's supposed to be, then you become expendable as a general manager. You get fired. Because he's one of those guys that got so much talent running through his veins that if he decides to just take it upon himself to really self-check himself in his eating and really slim down, he will be a force. So if this is my bottom end where

he's averaging 25, 5, and 6, whatever, I'm happy with it. I'm not even going to lie. We also got to mention that the Timberwolves didn't have any errors, but that didn't help our narrative with Zion dropping 36. So I just put that on the back burner. I just don't think that there's anything. You know me. I'm not here for the body shaming. But I think the way that the media had been talking about him, it was a little much. Like, he became like a punchline, which I didn't appreciate them talking about him that way, like on TV and stuff.

But what they're saying is true like he could drop some weight and like his game could go Even higher but again, he's he's been playing at a high level when he's healthy when he's out there like He's I think they put out a list of how many players he's averaging more points than and it was like 10 15 like some of the highest paid players on their teams No, I'm just like he just got to get his body together, like that's just something that they got to work on, but they got to stop like making him the butt of jokes and stuff. First and foremost, the regular sports media,

y'all listen, man, chill out. But I got, how many minutes is he averaging tonight when he plays please I didn't get can I play more yeah how much more don't do you play five more minutes bigger you can average 36 minutes about fuck happens to 42 minutes again yeah I don't know they're not doing no more. Is anybody playing over 40 minutes a game? Nobody. Them guards, them niggas you don't you know. No, there's some dudes like Them Fred Van Vliet's and shit like that. Well they did when they was with Nick Nurse. I can guarantee like few dudes from Fred is under one. Van Vliet playing 38 minutes a game.

38. Tyree Maxey playing 38. Shaden sharp 37. He's close to 37 Tatum 37 So that friend that fled feet. He should be playing. He should be playing those minutes. I think he can Yeah, first of all most when he's available. I think you play those minutes Second of all like The man runs around and sweats four, maybe five days a week. Sometimes maybe more, right? He's naturally a big kid, big person. He's not just, he's a big person.

He's still, I don't understand what people expect him to do and be. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really don't. And I'm looking at him and I'm like, when he's out there, he's still, like, he's effective. And just because somebody has a bad game or a bad couple games in a row, now all of a sudden he's not in shape and he fat. He got a problem eating and all this shit like Like what is like what they expect him to do Okay, he can have a shit He can have a listen all the things can exist that they're asking me do he can get a chef

He can get a nutritionist they go check his fucking blood See what he allergic to what makes him... All of these things can exist. And that's what we all do. Right? He's still going to be 260, 265 pounds, man. Just what it is. I mean, if he's 260, we got a super guy. But I'm just, what is he now though?

Let's get him on his... Honestly. I don't think that honestly, I don't think But he moving that shit Do we appreciate you whispering it he moving this like that man's privacy I was being he moving that shit though, but fuck my point. Never mind. If that's the case, that's a problem. That's a problem. He looks big.

He does, but he's naturally big. That's a problem. He came into the league at 285. I get what people are saying. I get he's a professional athlete. They expect him to be this. I understand that, yes. But you got to look at the problem.

I get what people are saying. I get he's a professional athlete. They expect him to be this. I understand that, yes. But I get he's a professional athlete. They expect him to be this. I understand that, yes. But you got to look at the person. You got to look at the body type.

You got to look at who he is. What is... From here up, ain't nothing on him. Thigh, calves, shit like this. He ain't nothing. I'm saying, I don't know what size shoe he wear. He probably like a 16. You know what it is?

He's the one player you have to play 38 40 minutes. Yeah because 31 minutes again like your body type can go 31 minutes lose weight. Yeah, absolutely right. He's not losing weight during game Yeah, right. So what ends up happening is if he's playing 30-something minutes, how many calories did he really lose? Yeah, he got to burn more. And then it looked like you burned because you played and you go eat. You gained weight that day. Yeah. Right?

So it becomes one of those, you know, at this point it's just calories lost for him. Right? So, you know, if he don't play 40 minutes, he should do 10 minutes of just extra cardio. Yeah, he got to play seven, eight more seven eight more minutes it's just one of those things so I'd rather him do the cardio in the game or just say all right look we played you 31 minutes can you after the game 20 more minutes of cardio yeah that has to be the thing now just do on the bike yeah low impact give me 20 more minutes every night because I know of course we are and then he'll lose he'll

start losing weight my body ain't nothing like his. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was seven pounds in the game. You'll lose seven pounds in the game? I'll lose. Yeah, like. Damn. Yeah, like, because I don't retain water.

Like, I'm sweating. You know, I got them all. Yeah. Like, when he was talking about the Gatorade, like, what are they giving him on the sideline? Gatorade? He was. He needs to drink water. What's the funniest?

He needs to drink water. If I wasn't careful, I was gaining weight. If you look at NBA players before the season, and you look at some of them during the season, they all flabby, fat, puffy in the face because they're not losing weight during the season. We're flying, we're eating two in the morning. Most of our meals are fucking two in the morning.

Twelve on a plane, we'll be laying, burger. See, I can do that shit. Yeah. Yeah, I get in I could eat whatever and go to bed And but this is my metabolism. Yeah, that's what it is Like a lot of guys like you said can't do that shit They really got to watch the intake and I yeah, they really have to but he definitely needs to play more minutes If it's that that's a goddamn problem. For sure. I'm not making no excuses for him, but I just look at his body type. I don't expect him to be 245

and no shit like that, but... That's going to take... For him to get to 26... If he can get through the year he walked into Duke, especially now, if that's what he is now, two more years from now, it can be a trouble for him.

If he can get down, focus now for next season, get down to about 265, nobody guarding you, man. That biggest defense is your weight. And the city that he's in. Yeah. That goddamn food, listen.

If it's the chef from New Orleans, they can be trying to if it's a chef from New Orleans They can be trying to make it as healthy. It's still it's the southern Louisiana cuisine. That's How much do you eat? Right now it is when I was playing just when you're playing I I Had to force myself to start eating breakfast like year like three Just again just to keep the weight on yeah, I had to yeah, yeah, cuz mama. I'm burning it off Yeah, see I played anywhere like from 225 to 230

See it. See I was damn heavy doing you yeah, and I'm weighing myself out through the games And I'm 222 223 someday like dang. Yeah be I was 218 to 224. Yeah That's why I mean just looking at that But then you have people talking on his way and speaking on things like that that have never experienced yeah But the people that speaking for like I like his comment He said if what they're saying if Charles Barkley and Shaka if what they're saying is coming from a good place I appreciate it. Yeah, but if it's not But you and that's what I'm saying like you two y'all should be talking to him because y'all had yeah

Wait problems. Yeah Both of y'all had you came I said you was 214 I mean for for two for 15 and you had to get down to 285. Yeah, so Charles, how did you control it? You need to go. Shaq, how did you? And that's the thing. When you got to Phoenix, that wasn't the Charles that played in Philly.

And what did you do in Houston to get that big? Yeah, yeah. What did you do? What did you do wrong? Tell him don't do this. Somebody played that reverse. Who knows? Who knows? Stay away from Papa, though. Yeah, what'd you do wrong? How do you don't do this? Somebody played that reverse? But I mean we had Zion on the show and during Summer League in Vegas and you know I think to your point there's a lot of guys I think coming from a negative light

But you were kind of understanding you 22 23 years old Just the difficulties of being on the road showing up to hotels where you can get that room service whenever you want Talk to Brandon Bass. Brandon Bass had that stocky body, too. What he used to do is he used to crave his eating with juicing. I just finished juicing this morning. So what he used to do is he would go late night, just juice all the vegetables and stuff, and then throughout the day, he just carries with him.

That used to be his meal, just juice and put protein in it. He needs to go talk to UD. He needs to go talk to Udonis. Oh, he has big body? Naturally big body? Are you a hip importer? What?

Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right. Huh? Dang. That's why UD didn't get drafted. That's why he went... That's why, like, the situation was what it was. Like, he got laid,

like, because he was overweight. He was... Yeah, he had weight, like, because he was overweight. Yeah, he had weight problems. I just wonder if anyone reached out to him to help him. I just want that to explode. Like, you shed, like, 40, 60 pounds, bro. You don't need to jump through people. You're going to be jumping over people.

The only person that can stop Zion right now is his weight. That's it. I've said it from the beginning. He's moving too fast. He's too explosive for with the rules the way the NBA is for any natural person to really stop him on a day in and day out. So it's him.

It's just him. It's that refrigerator, the cabinet, and trust me, you ain't the only one. Not at all. Nigga be sitting there, you know, eating. Idle time, idle time I ate a burger My pregame dinner meal at night when I got into the hotel Was a cheeseburger two cheeses had to be a white and yellow cheese cutting hat fuck So good a chocolate cake three scoops vanilla ice cream two cokes

What? That was my meal at At night. And lunch. So, I can only eat that on the road. I can't eat that right now. But if I go in a hotel room, chalk it up to the game. I didn't mess your stomach up. No. Oh, my goodness.

That's my meal. But so, that's what I'm saying. So, just imagine that if I had his body size. Man, I'd be that motherfucker. That's a big 60. Seeing him in real life, like, he's a bigger dude. That's not, like, fat. I'm just, like... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But I can also understand that.

If he was a football player, this would even be a conversation. Yeah, we gotta find a fine line. He gotta find that line. He gotta find that line, man. I think, like, 275. Between 260 and 270 is doable, because he's to find that line. Yeah, you gotta find that line man It's just to set I think like 275 between 26 and 270 is doable because he's still moving that shit And you guys talked about potentially playing them more but now do the pelicans also run the risk of they play him too much Well, you got injury You get you gotta help him you got to put him out there man because you're not practicing nowadays

I'm saying that's what's heard they don't practice So you're not getting that extra run and that extra cardio unless you're going to go in there and do it on his own to Gil's point on off days and doing more in that regard, which is tough. When you're playing a lot of minutes, you're like, man, I'm not going in there. I'm not going to go run today, man. You don't think he got a bike or nothing in his house? No.

Well, they need to put one in there indoor girl, you see my gym in there Now I look at it like every day when I walk by him. I'm gonna go in there one day I'm coming to this house for about three years. I've never seen you Key looked at my belly and looking at it. What is this what you got in here looking like that? Yeah, I had to ask you my there's no way that we should have that in there and you didn't boy No, I'm that friend. Yeah, I say you need to see me somebody like You got me got hope you know somebody got it like he, it has to be someone that he can really, like, they know they're coming from a good place.

Yeah, they're trying to help him. Hey. Trying to help him. Why are you eating them 20 cookies right now, man? Take your ass to the gym. God, man. Yeah, that's why I hate that, the way that they're talking about him. Yeah, you got to curve.

I'm helping him, but y'all making fun of him instead. Well, I mean, Chuck also said that that was his first time watching Zion play, and he's been in the league for the better part of five years. Yeah, he went in on him. I'm like, come on. But was he lying? For that particular game, though. No, he was not lying. That man be on his phone during the game.

Oh, I thought you were talking about lying about Zion. He be lying, and then he be, uh, taking a, yeah, yeah, so Zion Williams had a good game today For you watch shit, you know, we got you know, we got the best producers in the game They posted a screen grab in our rundown of Zion's crib. He's got the gym at the crib He got that he got the it's a lot you got it. It's not you know, is it nicer than yours? It's comparable

But let me ask you this. There's nothing. Just hear me out. It take a real special athlete. You sitting at home at 10.30 at night

with nothing to do. You know what? I'm going to go do some cardio. Who? I'm just saying. It take a real, you can, if there has been, we know of them. Right? Guys that outwork

a few. Idle time, they're going to go do their craft or put something into their craft. Everybody work hard. Yeah, but Certain athletes most athletes have a cutoff point of physical exertion Mm-hmm other than sexual Technically exercise. But, as far as somebody going to pick up a ball at certain hours of the night or doing

cardio at certain hours of the night is not going to happen. There's a few, like for basketball. Select few. You're on a bike for 30 minutes and you're on your TV. That sounds great. That sounds great. Sounds great. People put in the little treadmills

and they're living right now. When you done and you're away and you mentally said, I've done had enough, watch how fast you pick up weight. And then now you got to force yourself to start doing again.

Like somebody like Coutinho Mobley going out there still hooping, that's impressive. Yeah. What? Joe Johnson, Mr. Yeah, what Joe Johnson? Mr. Yoga goddamn to sit by the only one be around and you know Yo, you make me look because guarantee all it take

active athlete or not wherever you sit now you get ready to get up and you got a Some shit you You know what? I'm going to sit my ass back down, man. Like, yeah, just... It has to be part... I'm sore. It has to be part of you already. Like, it has to be a part of what you do.

That has to be your thing. Like, I work out. Like, I go to the gym, and this is what I do. Yeah. And it's a mental thing, too, because they talk about that muscle, mind, memory, connection. So if you're not locked into that,

like, even if he does cardio, I don't even think it's going to work if he doesn't want to actively do it. But we all know how easy it is to not do shit, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, go in that freezer and get whatever. You're supposed to work out this morning. And the one thing that we all have is freedom and free thought and free fucking will. Work out this morning, but and the one thing that we all have is

Freedom and free thought and free fucking wheel right? Yeah And who has more than somebody making 30 million dollars? Everything at his disposal Anything you want to do anything you want to eat anything anywhere you want to go at any given time and nowadays it's a click away. Yeah, it's even harder. Right? That's fair.

There's so many things, Uber Eats, Grubhub, Instacart, you run down the damn list of things that you don't have to move in order to have at your disposal. He can get a girl to his house faster than he can make a burger. Facts. Dead ass. Like, let me go ahead, order her. Boop. Hey, baby, can you bring me something to eat?

On your way here, two for one. The dead... Boober. You're an idiot. Yeah. Because you know the girl go like... Come on. What is the girl going like, come on. What is the girl going to say?

You want me to bring you something? Hell yeah. I'll bring you a salad. Yo, it's such and such on the corner by the crib before you turn on the street. Can you stop and give me X, Y, Z? I ain't saying you're doing it, but that's a possibility. But if you bring him a salad or something, it wouldn't be bad. I mean, you're looking out for them.

Right? Yeah. I mean, you're looking out for them. I mean, you're paying attention. I'll be good. Be mad. But if she made it, she made the dude gourmet and chef something up. Be mad.

Eat the salad. But Zion having performances like these, I mean, it shows, obviously, what he's still capable of. Those games last week, national TV games, TNT games, you know what I mean? They're going to be critical on him. And then when the Lakers smack you by 44, you shouldn't take that personally. It's just what it was meant to be.

They had a championship in mind. LeBron's fifth championship was in his head. Stats don't count. No way. So, yeah. Those ones, too. Just not the championship game. I think they just talk about more, like, longevity-wise.

Like, if he just keeps going this path, like, it's not going to be good for him. He's only getting older, and if he just keeps not taking care of his body, that's going to be the issue three, four years from now. I think the one thing that is at his advantage is he consciously knows. Right, you know, some people just don't, they don't care, right? And he knows it's the media now where people are on it, people are watching. So I'm pretty sure because people are watching,

he's still reasonable. Because if people wouldn't say anything, I'm pretty sure after he read the comments, I'm pretty sure he went in the gym and worked out. I'm pretty sure. Like, oh gym and worked out. I'm pretty sure. Like, all right, that's what they're doing. Or,

he went to the kitchen. Nah. Nah. Eat this, and do 40 tomorrow. But when did you guys really start locking in, and we've talked about this before,

but understanding what it meant to really be a pro, locking in on conditioning, routine, putting in that extra work. Because so often, you just got guys that'll show up

when it's mandatory practice, and then they felt like they've done enough. That's 95% of them being. And I'm not saying Zion's there, because it seems like he does a ton of work. He probably works, but you got to put the diet thing into that part of it as well. And that shit, I don't relate to that.

Yeah, you don't. Did you have teammates, though? Just being honest. Did you have teammates though? I'm just being honest. Did you have teammates that you saw that were able to... How many players are on a diet? Like they really took care of their body food-wise? I know Melo did. Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

We only had like maybe two, maybe three guys that... I think Nene did. Most of the guys who can get big yeah yeah it was an actually but for the most part I had we had ethan ethan ate healthy then we had to do it was at Linton Johnson mm-hmm right I remember like cuz he's he was all like organic back then going to Whole Foods, right? 2% 1% body fat the man play like 15 minutes, right caught a body cramp Mm-hmm sitting there spazzing right the Sean look at him said shitty Maybe if you ate more than grapes, your body would respond better. Then they go over there eating that rabbit food.

That would have been my thought as well, God damn it. Yeah, absolutely. Ain't nothing to swear to. It's like sitting there just neck spazzed in the head like you can see he's in pain. Yeah, it looked like that. You'd have more than just grapes. I would have thought and probably said it as well in that moment. Yeah. Mother eats meat, steak. I would have thought and probably said it as well It's meat

state this Like we said previously Zion friend of the show Obviously want to see him heading the right direction So Zion if you watching gills arena, which you probably are know that we got your back. We supporting you. But my thing he's probably and People say you to like you need to drink more water drink more water. You drink more water. You need to drink more water, you drink more water, you drink more water, you need to drink more water, right? Maybe he retained, because I don't retain water that much. Maybe his body just naturally, he just retained water. And therefore, he needs to sweat more to try to get out.

But it's just, I don't know. I'm not making this up. I'm just thinking of ways that the body can fight you no matter what you do, to your point that you was making. Somebody asked me, said, how did I know this was going to be an issue? I said, when they said he was 285, right, and he was in college. Like, college, you're working out with two and a half, three hours a day, every day. Then they had their games. And I'm sitting in the NBA schedule.

We don't work like that. Like, no matter what people think, we don't work like that. We don't have that kind of cardio where you're running up and down like that. So if he gets used to the NBA schedule, he's going to blow up. Because we practice. They don't have road trips and stuff in college either. You can't get out. Yeah.

We practice like, be honest, man. When Allen Iverson said practice, we was all like, what did he say wrong? I ain't been in practice in motherfucking two months. But the heavier, I mean, college you got 35, 40 games, right? So you're only playing a maximum of two games a week. But it's that practice cardio you're getting in. Here, you might get like a workout here and there

if you worked out, get a little weight lift. Every season is crazy in college. Yeah. It's like 90% running. Yeah. Even during the season. Huh?

During the season, you still let your... I remember being in two. Everything equals on the line in college, man. I remember being in two every season in college. They were crazy. Ms. Frieda, on the line in college, man. Everything in college. They were crazy. Ms. Frito, on the line.

Everything equals on the line. On the line. Put your head down. Where were y'all running at Cincinnati? What, like, as far as suicides? We didn't run 17. We were in suicide. And 22s.

Now, what are 22s? Down and back, down and back. OK. Yeah, 22 seconds. Wait, wait, down, back, down, back, 22s. And I order 22. Down and back, down and back. Okay. Yeah, 22 seconds. Wait, wait. Down, back, down, back. 22 seconds. Like, that's our conditioning test. 22, 22s.

Damn. Wait, wait, wait. The number 22. 22, 22s. So four lines. And you got two groups. Guards and big. Your only rest is in while they're... while the 22 second would you run with?

Well my senior 22 times guards guards wait you had to do that 22 times with only 22 seconds arrest Yeah, and a couple experts for the clock reset. Yeah my senior are conditioning my ladder Yeah, it senior year. It's the, um, there's like a beep, then you go down and back, and then you gotta wait. Then you have the rest, and then it beeps again. Down and back, wait for the beep again, and it gets shorter and shorter. So it was like last person standing.

Yeah, I had to run my mile with the guards. I had to run my, again, to my senior year, I had to run my mile with the guards, and my conditioning test with the guards. The Duke boys had a running test. They had to run through the woods and shit. There was a jogging trail around campus. They had to go run through that at 6 a.m.

It was crazy. Yeah, 22, 22. College conditioning was different. I did that shit four years. They were just trying to break you in the first season. That don't sound fun. Oh, I mean, hugs get mad. Like, Jay, put up 88.

Like, what the fuck is 88, man? Just make shit up. Like, just making up numbers. Just make everybody mad. Yeah, so my senior, though, he got to the point, my senior, like, he would say some shit. If he mad, if I see we about to have to run, hey, I'm I see here though he got to the point my senior like he would say some shit if he if he Mad if I see we about to have to run. Hey, I'll bring everybody Get y'all fucking shit together. I'm not finna business running for y'all. Y'all know what it is if you don't

I'm threatening everybody, you know, you know what I'm threatening everybody. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm putting. Don't be going to fight. All right, so let's keep this thing moving. Clippers are finally getting the groove in the Harden era. And Kawhi Leonard has been a big reason for that. So Kawhi dropped 34, six rebounds, five assists, three steals. And the Clippers withstood a 38-piece from Ann Simons to get the dub over the Blazers May not be a big deal But it's a big deal in Clipperville because they've been dealing with a lot of shit in this last seven games Kawhi is averaging 29.7 rebounds for assist

Doing things like that getting buckets at will playing both sides as well The Clippers are looking good too. It can't even really deny, but it's quite quietly showing that the Clippers are still his team He gives you the fuck out that ball Systemly like that. That's one thing I noticed um We're not alone. I mean at this at this point if it his team, then it's his team, right? He's special. It was hard to see at first, but when I really just paid attention to him and realized his gift is he can just flat out shoot the ball. You see him, he ain't doing nothing flash. He's just right there. And that's the ball. Like, you see him, he ain't doing nothing flash.

He just, right there. And that's the thing. I mean, he's not obviously what you would traditionally call a leader in the sense of being, you know, the guy that's in everybody else's shit.

But when it's time to produce, time to get a bucket. Yeah, lead by example. Yeah. That's his thing. Yeah, no, they're playing well right now. Despite my thoughts early and comments early. They're playing well. It's going to take some time. We all knew that.

How can you not with that kind of firepower? It doesn't matter when. And maybe it's the turn that Gil spoke on, the streak they won four in a row. So, let's see how many they can get in a row. But no, Kawhi, he's proven his ability and his work ethic in this league, man. Just being in the gym with him a few months ago, just watching the way he works and the pressure he puts on himself with each possession, each set. So he's pro's pro.

And you can tell in his... Yeah, the one move, the step back was... That was tough. At the end of the quarter was tough. Yeah. It was Quick and efficient. You don't think like you don't expect him to have that quick of a Like fast twitch muscle the way I'm obviously unique vantage point spend a lot of time with the Clippers Preseason training camp was quite like in those type of Setting the situations because we know we see from the outside perspective. Yeah quiet, you know, whatever Yeah, quiet time personality, you know, whatever.

Yeah, quiet time, personality. Like, you want people to know that he has a great personality, laughs, joke with his guys. You know, so when he's in a more intimate environment setting, I think he's more comfortable than groups of people, which is understandable.

Okay. Yeah, no, he has a great personality, man. We'll show within his guys, and it's good. Okay. Yeah, no, he has a great personality, man. We'll show within his guys. And it's good to see. It's good to see how he interact with Paul and Russ and staff and things like that. So, no, it's good to see. Despite what you people might have heard from the San Antonio situation. Yeah, I mean, we see the narrative.

Yeah, from the whole San Antonio situation and things even now that you might hear that he's secluded, he does things his way and all that. But he's working. But when he's with his guys, that's when I think he's most comfortable. So with the guys who he's going to war with every night, I think he's more comfortable with them guys. I'm just happy he's out there healthy and playing.

Like, I don't think we've seen this version of Kawhi in a minute because he hasn't been healthy. So I think people forgot what type of player he is and his leadership style and things like that. So I'm just happy to see him out there. I haven't heard that much conversation about the Clippers now that they're doing well. That's why

we are conversating about them on Gil's Arena. Controversy, man. People ain't going to talk about them. Obviously Harden comes over right away, and you're in L.A. We expect things just to happen right then and there. Why is it so hard to give players props when they do well

after you've been shitting on them for weeks? People thrive off negativity. It's so weird. And that's why players don't respect the media yeah because like if I'm wrong then I have to come back and say I should I fucked up that was my bad easy to do regular media don't want to they don't care that's not how their ratings run right but they don't understand you're mad that the narrative you created in your own brain was wrong because of what you came up with yourself.

It's so annoying. I will give you credit for that too because you might say some shit, but you always stand on it right or wrong and make a funny video out of it. You're not ducking in, you know, despite the group chats. I mean,

you can speak on things that are happening in the moment, but speak on all of it. Yeah. Like, they are playing really well. For sure. The guys are playing well. Yeah, like, I could easily sit up and be like, no, fuck that, this shit luck right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, dang it, no, no. I still don't believe it. But that's what the big name is. Like, no, no, they playing well right now. But that kind of, you got to be honest with it. Like, what it is, it's no, they playing well right now. But that kind of is. You got to be honest with it. Like, what it is, it's not they just worried about tomorrow. Like, what's the next high reel for tomorrow?

It's not. But we figured that they would eventually kind of start to figure it out. Still on the offensive side, still not, I think, where it can be. But they're in the midst of a season-high four-game winning streak, like you mentioned, including wins against the Warriors, Nuggets when they had their full start in five, went to Utah, beat the Jazz where they had 11-game losing streak in Utah for some reason, and obviously beat the Blazers.

Not anything to get super excited about, but a win is a win. So they're now 9-8 overall with Harden in the lineup, and on Monday the trio of Kawhi, Harden, and PG combined for 74 points. Westbrook added 12-6 off the bench to get only played like 16 minutes Gil when that move first happened you said that you thought the the Clippers could rattle off 10 He said you you went beyond How to respect is the 20 in the road, but is But is it time to start taking the Clippers seriously? I mean, no matter if they're winning or losing, you got to take them serious because when it matters is at the end of the season.

And, you know, if they're clicking at the end of the season, is there enough defense? Do you have enough defensive players that can offset their defense while you still got to try to put the ball in the basket yourself? Right? And, you know, I don't care if I can beat them in, you know, regular season. It's, you know, when them scouting reports start coming out, do we have enough firepower to beat them in a seven-game series? Yeah. We'll point out Clippers.

Right now defense are ready, and they got a top five defense in the league. And you can lean on that in the playoffs. Offense top 14 right now. That'll get better. That'll get better. The playoff series, that shit, listen. I talked to all that shit earlier,

but if you're being honest about it, seeing them in a playoff series and they defending with the kind of tenacity that they can, that could be hell for somebody. Yeah. The right team.

And we've also spoken about obviously Kawhi PG era, a lot of injuries, a lot of issues. They've both been very reliable this season. I think that was a little bit of the concern too with the team not quite performing where it should be. But if this winning streak is able to continue, they should be sending a message to the rest of the league that they should be sending a message to the rest of the league that they should be taking seriously. Yeah.

Well, the rest of the Western Conference at least. Yeah. But who, I mean, you know, Celtics, Bucks. That's it. That's it. That's it. They get no love, Gil. Not Philly?

Not Philly? He said no. Another city? I don't, no. He said no. Oh say no. No. He said no. Oh, yeah, you don't believe in a big guy? He said that history.

He played against, I mean, that Al Horford got a number. Al Horford got a super, man. I'm sorry, Al Horford got a super. For him to win the championship, he got to overcome that Boston. Even when they put Al Horford on his team. He lost to the Boston. Jesus Christ. My team, come on.

Stupid. Let's move out to the east. Obviously, normally we celebrate the winners, but we got to talk about DeMar DeRozan, what he did Monday night, joined some elite company. The Bulls' overtime loss to the Bucs. DeMar dropped 41 points and 11 assists, joining MJ as the only players in Bulls history with a 40-10 game. I know you don't care about stats like that, but impressive accomplishment.

It was Zach Levine's sideline with a foot injury. DeMar's been cooking. He's averaging 29 nine assists, five rebounds last four games. Bulls are three and one in those games. Four and one overall since Levine needed the footy out of me. The thing about DeMar, 34-year-old, last year of his deal, reports are the Bulls will try to move him before the trade deadline if they can't reach an agreement on an extension.

He's reportedly interested in the Knicks or Heat. So I want to know, where is DeMar a better fit? With the Knicks, the Heat, or staying with the Bulls? You had to pick those two teams. There's three, technically. That's where he wants to go. Reports are he wants to go to the Knicks or the Heat. We can expand it out in a second.

Are they going to help him? I mean, obviously the better team would be Miami Heat with him and Jimmy Butler, but that shrinks the floor because Jimmy doesn't shoot threes like that. He doesn't shoot like he can shoot, but he don't shoot threes like that. Who are they going to trade in Miami for him Some sand They don't got no players He's been hurt so you can't even trade him right now or but if your booze like

booze you don't want none of that but you don't I mean if you're Bulls, like, Bulls, you don't want none of that. I mean, if you're the Bulls, like, I mean, if you know that... What valuable players do you guys have on the Heat at this point? You don't. But if you know DeMar's not coming back... Then I'm trading him next. At least there's a bunch of something over there. Like, I don't know

what it is yet. It's like gumbo. There's a shrimp. They got shrimp over there. Like, I don't know what it is yet. It's like gumbo. That's a shrimp? Yeah, that's a shrimp over there. You got some sausage? Sausage? Oh, shit. They do have a lot of talent on that team. They just can't put it...

They just can't get it together. I don't know. I thought they were trying to move Zach Levine. Zach's a part of this discussion, too. They trying to move... I think they're going to move them both. acts a part of this discussion to they trying to move out then they go move both both of them I think so they work in the phone They're moving both so Nick six in the East right now. He ate but I think Like for anybody that's trying to trade Nix has a bunch of pieces over there that you can really You can really get some jewels

out of it because they don't know how to use it. If you're a fan that they got three left-hand starters, it's... Yeah.

Yeah, that's crazy. You know, that seems cool that somebody be like, well, this team got five right-hand starters. It's not the same. It's basketball.

It's different. Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah, basketball. It's different. Yeah, it's not the same. It's not the same. Yeah, because we talked about left-handed players. They have, like, this unorthodox style of play. You've got three of them.

Yeah. But what if we, as right-handed players, we're the unorthodox ones? And they're looking at us like, y'all fucking our shit up. No, I'm just kidding. I'd like to see a team

of five left-handed starters. They all going to be going one way? That's disgusting. Because it's... Yeah, it is. I'm trying to think of who else is left-handed. Whole bunch of right-handed step backs.

That's so crazy how that works. Right? You're right. Whole bunch of right-handed step backs. Everybody driving the same way is going gonna be like a racetrack Everybody going to say fuck away Mar to the next because the reason the reason is easier for right-handers because what ends up happening is growing up You're taught defensively what push everybody today they offhand right right-handers get pushed left growing up.

Being lefty growing up is easy for you because no one is taught to push you right. We're pushing you to the hand that you want to go. So usually a left-handed person doesn't actually develop

the right hand like that. Never. They never develop the right hand because they're used to just being, so you're going to sit right on it, boom, left. So they get gifted

with just going left. You don't get, yeah, you don't get scouted like that until you on it boom left. Yeah, so they get gifted with just you don't get Yeah, you don't get scattered like that's a little older. Yeah, most left-handed people that night shoot left-handed in games it Can't go right at all. Huh? Can't go right? can't it's like Like go all the way to the bed like Google hell that bitch like it's it just the game Yeah, that's crazy as shit. Now, did you think about it? I was thinking about Selim back in the day, but that's the only one who really I would see like...

To the left, to the left. But he would go right too, but just shoot it like going through. It would look so weird, but it would go... But it's crazy because a lot of right-handed players, their preference is the left side of the floor. And like some of their best moves is the left. Yeah, because if you look at... But you still got your right hand. their preference is at the left side of the floor. And like some of their best moves is in the left. But you still got your right hand. Yeah, because if you look at most right-handed shooters,

like they handle it, it's like they're left-handed. Yeah, that's that trick shit. It's all that with the left, right hand. Somebody the other way, that shit, ew. They don't have that. They can't do it. That's why James Harden is ba-bap, ba-bap, ba-bap. But it's left leg forward.

It's left leg forward. Right? So he can... So if he needs to take off, he can go. So he keeps this forward, because if he goes this forward, he has to go this way. So he keeps this forward, ba-bap, ba-bap. If he goes that way, it's a step back.

Other than that, he can just take off and go this way so he keeps this for about five if you go there was a step But in here he can set you back. It's not that he can just take off and go that way You know as our production crew wanted to point out that he rolled out a five lefty lineup back in 2015 Chris boss Josh McRoberts justice Winslow Tyler Johnson Goran drag it Wow Where's they win? What was that first quarter score? So let's expand out besides Nixon heat any other team like the Lakers have been mentioned But anybody else who can use the Mars like who's the container that can use them to get over the top.

OK, Tinder. Philly. Philly? I don't know. Him and Joel play in the same realm. They play in that mid-post-mid area, so that's not. That was a bad one. How about the Pacers? Pacers?

Ooh! Ooh! Yeah. One. When I was watching them over the weekend, I was like, Tyrese needs, like, someone who can just go get a bucket on their own. Because he literally spoon-feeds that entire team. And he got doubled.

Like, I think the Lakers, they trapped him almost every ball screen which was really smart cuz he don't he's an exceptional passer Tyrese Halliburton but he needs someone that could just go get a bucket he don't have that on that Pacers team yeah that'd be a good fit so we also gotta show some love to Kobe White he's averaging 26 six reb rebounds, six assists, while shooting 50% from the field, 54% from three in his last five games. And we've mentioned Zach Levine on Chilling Hills Island right now with the foot inflammation.

Foot inflammation. But the Bulls have been playing well in his absence. They're 4-1 in those games. Always be ready, right? Somebody like Kobe White, you come over there, you're the third, back up, back up, back up. You know what I mean? You got Caruso that came, you got Ball that was there.

You're not even in their plans. But if he would have thought this is it, he wouldn't be doing what he's doing right now. So the fact that he kept his mind in the game, look at him. Yep, staying ready. And the crazy thing about all these rumors about, like, Zach don't want to be there, he won't out, and the video of him pulling away from the PR person,

whoever it was, all this, right? And they were just playing, people talking about it about the bad team Not a for what a little shit is that the problem? Yeah, it's just it's crazy I'm going to ask me that is this crazy. I sport work until I have shit. Oh, yeah, he must be this You know, you really got to go down It's like a five-game sample size, but this is you know, 24-hour news cycle work drop five more than Already better without them. Yeah. If they drop five more, then... Yeah, absolutely. It's all this, ooh, are they better without them?

Yeah. No, stop that. You just create division, but what ends up happening is because this player did so much on the team, nobody really did anything extra. You take them off, everybody steps up, right?

Which that step up, it's better than just him by himself. You know, so as a team, you become a little bit more efficient in the short term. In the long term, you'll realize that when you need to get over the top those last five minutes, that's what you're missing. We are a short-term industry. We've got to run these numbers up. All right, let's keep this thing moving. We talked about, you know, some good teams, some decent teams.

Now we've got to talk about... The worst. You know, the ugly teams in the league. So the Spurs lost a franchise record 17 straight game on Monday. But at least Wimby gave them something to smile about. Oh, a dunk. He caught Operation Goon slipping. Why? Put him on a poster. He caught Operation Goon slipping. Why? Put him on a poster.

I'm sorry. Why? That's not impressive. Why? Give us a dunk on him. Look how flimsy his arms are. What I'm saying, he can dunk without standing up. Suck it, Blue!

That's not impressive. He's 7'7". Look how little he makes a Shingoon look. That's impressive enough. Yeah. He really needs something to be smiling on. I know, but I mean, he's a shangoon look Impressive enough. Yeah, they need something to be 76 without somebody there's a body there's a body but you know, like it goes on his highlight You know Spurs haven't won a game be on at the end of year when he's showing his rookie

I feel good to Spurs haven't won a game since November 2nd. Damn! When we dropped the career-high third end on the Suns. It gets worse, though. It gets worse. The Pistons have lost 20 straight games. Damn! 4-44 in their last 48 games. Haven't won a game

since October 30th. Haven't won a playoff game since when the season starts. That's opening night. Before Halloween. It started a little earlier now as you know. It started on the 26th. But the biggest winner in all this is

Detroit area Wingstops. So we got it. So as the official wings of the Pistons, Wingstops has a special promo where they give fans 5 free boneless wings after every Pistons win. All you gotta use is use promo code Pistons. Yeah, man, so they got no wings So this season that's a grand total of ten boneless wings. Oh My god

That sounds like some shit that I would have created over there. Wizards also deserve some acknowledgement. Can't leave them out. They are 1-14 in their last 15 games with the only win coming against the Pistons. Who is? The Wizards. Who the fuck is coming in the draft? I don't know, but listen.

Who's coming in the draft that everybody's thinking for? Bronny. I'm just kidding. There's got in the drive that everybody's taking for? There's got to be somebody that's like that seven foot. Michael LeBron O'Neal? Nah, man. Yeah, some of them. I don't know who's coming out. Michael LeBron O'Neal?

Somebody knows. Somebody's coming. Some generational loser right now. Michael LeBron Durant? Like, there's a hidden gem somewhere. There's somebody coming in this drive that they all take it for, too. So let's talk about the winless Spurs, 17 straight, 20 straight losses with the Pistons. Pistons' next five games, home versus Sixers, at the Sixers, at Bucks, at Hawks, at home versus Jazz.

Spurs' next five games, they got the Lakers twice at home. Both on TV Pelicans at home At the Bucks At the Bulls Who will end their losing streak first The Spurs or the Pistons We also just want to note

The Spurs played the Pistons on January 10th in Detroit So if it gets to that point At least one of them Unless they just tie. Keep playing for all of eternity. I say P.J. Tucker will score two points before... P.J. Tucker

will score a point before one of them get a win. Are you willing to give away five free boneless wins to somebody in the chat if that happens? Yeah. Okay. If P.J.j scores before one of those two win i give a thousand dollars no no no no if they no no no wait hold on hold on how about you give me a thousand no no what i'm saying is if if spurs or detroit win a game before pj scores one point okay give me and he

ain't been playing in like six games You give me a thousand dollars me, too Thank you, no you give it to the chair now give it to me Sorry chat y'all get enough free money Well, I see who you think is go in that losing streak first. Mmm Bring pride back to their city. I would say the Spurs. Because they're kind of flying under the radar with this losing streak.

I didn't know until yesterday. That's weird, right? The Pistons get a graphic every time they lose. I know they're at 15 games, but yeah, they're at 17 and 20. They got the Lakers twice. I just feel like They can get you Chicago. I think I'm pretty sure both of those games are on TV They get you to Lakers are not finna lose who plays Chicago Spurs, Chicago Let me pull it up

Television NBA. Yeah, they're at the Spurs are at the Bulls. They probably get them Probably no the Spurs are at the Bulls. They probably get them. Probably. On the road. PJ Tucker hasn't scored since November 14th that we're keeping. On the road. See, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

30 days and not scoring. Yeah! That's what I'm saying. I'm with my dude, PJ. Checks have still been direct deposit. That's true, but that is not fun. Dude, last night, so there's been, I saw this shit years ago when Tony Snell did it, but I didn't know it. I didn't know there's been five people that played 28 or 26 or more minutes that didn't score.

Didn't have anything. Didn't get a single set. I can tell you this one. That shit, yo. That's so hard to do. This is real talk. Off the couch right now. Listen.

Off the couch right now i guarantee i can go get an nba rebound and a bucket i can get a foul a foul free throw a free throw an assist a steal how many minutes did he play 26 28. 28. 28. That was cardio day. Shit happens, all right? It's been five times. It's been done five times. That's historical. He ain't got a good to great pass, a little rebound that was tipped to him.

No, think about it. That's very hard to have a... 28 minutes, we're like, what are you doing out there? Like, you are literally trying not to do nothing like the ball back You didn't have one personal file that I don't count I'm just pointing it out Like what do you do something in 28 minutes dog? I'm just saying It's been Who did that? Who was it? Oh, on the post. I don't know how to say his last name. It don't matter.

You shouldn't say his last name. You know what's crazy though? They called it a Tony. We had him on No Chill. Good dude. Good dude. As M.A. Roker called LeBron. Our young boy? Yeah. It's my game, dude. You can't come on boy? Yeah. No, young boy.

No, you can't come on. It's one game, dude. Don't get me wrong. No, you can't come on on no chill and do that shit, man. I'm not talking about. You played 28 minutes, man. That's 28 shots. Hey.

So you start calling him as M.A. Udoka called LeBron, the player. No. You don't get the same thing. He got a name. He got a name. He ain't got no name. He the player.

You don't score in 28 minutes, you ain't got no name. This one game, K-Mart. Who? Not a player like that. He was a name. He got a name. He ain't got no name. He the player. You don't score in 28 minutes, you ain't got no name. If one game came on her, who? Not a player like that. He was a good dude. He was a player for the Bulls. Oh, no, bro. You got to know him. You got to know how good of a dude he is. He's too good to have a step. I don't care who.

How good you are or not. Now that I know who it is, bro, next time you get out there, bro, don't pass nobody the ball. You got to really like three-six this motherfucker. Just 28 minutes, 28 shots. Let everybody know, yo, dog, you shoot too much. I'm shooting for the last game, too.

Did he have any shot attempts? He had six shot attempts. It was 0 for 6, 0 for 2 from 3. Oh, okay, he tried. I blame the basketball. Play it hard, though. But the fact that they they calling it a Tony Snell game is crazy. Because he's the most recent person to do it. I know, but now, like, Tony Snell, that sucks.

These things happen, ladies and gentlemen, okay? Anybody who has that line from now on is getting called the Tony Snell game. That's sick. Ayo, good dude, my favorite part. Was he the first? He wasn't the first one to do it. No, no. It's happened five times, dude. No, I'm just saying Tony Snell wasn't the first one. He wasn't the first one to do not know I've been five times. I'm just saying Tony Snell wasn't the was the first

He was the most recent since everybody started this new wave of pride George Mike him back in the day But before it was an official stat Imagine George might get doing a Mikey Joe. He just fucking up missing every time That's why I made that beat. I hate that damn beat. I'm not even going to do this. I'm not even going back. I'm not going to go back to history right now. I'm not going to do this. Having a good day? Oh yeah, you know, you talking about...

Hey, yo, we still rolling with you. They called with it. What was his nickname? The big what? Caucasian, I'll let you say. Nah, he was like the big unit, the big monster, whatever. Whatever. He was the biggest dude in the league.

Shot 30... Huh? Shot 39% of the game. They called him Mr. Basketball. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude in the league. He was the biggest dude him? Whatever. He was the biggest dude in the league.

Shot 30, huh? Shot 39%. They called him Mr. Basketball, too. How the fuck you shoot 39% for a field? You're the biggest human being. That's how you know probably gave him the drill. And he's got his drill named after you. Layups.

No, I'm pretty sure the drill was, hey, hey, work on your layers, big fella. It was his punishment. It was his punishment. Mikey drill. We out here doing it because we think it helped improve Cuz he's the worst worst at last I ain't gonna do the mic you do get you in the

I'm sure other coaches saw like you want to be trashed like his ass We're gonna do the mic you drew you gotta make the honey. I got the college to have me try it I'm not doing this shit ever again in life. And you got to make like 20 in a row. If I'm this close to the rim, I'm going to dunk it. Yeah. That's the Kenyan drill. Okay. So we can't do that.

We got to tap. Damn, Mikey. That's funny. So, yeah, Mr. Basketball, Mike and the Magnificent, the Monster, Big Mike. The Monster. The Monster. The Monster. You shot 39%.

39%, 40% from the field. There's still three-point line. Right. Big Mike White chocolate The boss is here The magnificent monster so if the NBA supporter my idea of doing a way off at the end of the season for the number one pick, and the Pistons and Spurs played a seven-game series, who would win that series? Ooh. And you would watch it. The Spurs. I'll make it like a five game.

We'll go back to old school. No, they played a seven. Like, that, that, that, that. Yo, at the end, let them to fight it out for first Oh, we're number one pick you would enjoy it It'd be better, but it got a guarantee in the number one pick though You got a guarantee in the number one pick if they do that again. We got a guarantee. I'm no more pick Too many teams a tank three three work

But here's the hustle so for NC the tournament championship you give the winner 500 grand for that You just subtract 500 grand from whoever loses the series. The organization themselves. But all the players in the other team just get to stay there. Okay, Cannon out here. Hi, dude. Hey, guys.

He's going to get his residual check. We on the show today. We in here. And good, you've had experience with this, but how hard is it for a young team that's struggling every night to figure out how to win games together? It's a thing, right, where when you're young, you find ways to lose. Like, it's just one of those.

You can be at 15 with five minutes left. You find a way to lose. When you're a bad team, that's what it is. Just like a good team, no matter how when Golden State was on their road, they find ways to win. They can pull it out. Same thing with bad teams. They're going to figure out how to trick it off.

Yeah, that's the saying around. That's the saying. Bad team will find a way to lose. That's just what it is. They are... Just like winning is contagious, so's fucking losing and once you you like cuz once It's you watching these losing streets, right? All it take is a like a two-minute spurt where

Tooth him and it's like shit here we go again and they shoulders drop through this shit here and Trust me. I Watch that shit Houston. They lost 20 straight. Okay, Joe down in that glisten job That's rough to watch bruh 20 straight and I gotta watch cuz he playing to he out there bit 30. I gotta watch it. I'm There you go right there daddy Yeah, you just do are you watching the team? No, you just kind of wanted in cage. Okay, that's what I'm saying

Come on now. I'm just concentrating. That's it's way. I'm watching cage I don't want to be the team that loses to him either Yes, you get everybody and play and like we not gonna be the ones that that break this streak. Mm-hmm But that's it. It is that's a, it is, it's like, you know, like there's, it streaks an NBA, right? You know,

when you call that timeout or you up, like, yo, you know, they gonna come in, they gonna hit, they gonna punch, you know,

we gonna stand our ground, you know, they gonna hit some shots, but don't get discouraged. Nah, when you a bad team, soon as, motherfucker, three shots in the room, pop, pop, pop, ooh, ooh, ah, you're a bad team, soon as motherfucker three shots in the room, pop, pop, pop.

Ooh, ooh, ah! You're like, aw, man. You can be up 10. They're like, aw, man, we good, man. Who we play tomorrow? Do y'all feel like there's more pressure on the team that has a losing streak to win or the team that came in,

like you said, to not be the one that ends the streak? The ones that's coming in. Because, brother, whoever loses, listen. Don't let it be in Detroit or in San Antonio. Whoever loses to them, whoever loses to them is going to be, you know, it's like, oh, Spurs. Spurs defeat. Spurs defeat, blah, blah, blah.

Upset. Because it is an upset. Whoever they beat is an upset. Absolutely. Unless it's Detroit. Should they get a banner for it? No, I'm just kidding. Because the upset comes with the sports bet and shit.

So in no game, they're going to be favored in. There's no game in the near future that they're going to be favored in. That's unfortunate. The real loser is the city of Detroit. No boneless wings for y'all. Y'all ain't had boneless wings since what, October 30th? Your brother's starving

out there. They ain't had boneless wings since October 30th. It's almost 2024. They going to get one. We're going to pray for them. Yes. Hey, my Lakers been out losing 2024. They're going to get one. They're going to get one. We're going to pray for them. Yes. Hey, my Lakers been out losing to the motherfuckers, man.

I just thought about it. Man, twice. Two times. Ah, damn. You know how that is? Come on, AD, just do you. Yeah, you know how that is? That second game.

It's that second game. It's that second game. I mean, just coming off the hardest NBA Cup championship in league history. Is it a home and home? Or are they both in San Antonio? They're both in San Antonio. They're both in San Antonio. I've never seen that before. They did it.

No, they're going to win. They've been doing it recently. I think they did it last year, too. I think it's going to win both of them. Oh, yeah, they're going to win both of them. Yeah. If it was at home, you'd get that relaxation shit. They're on the road.

I think they'd get both of them They're not gonna have a hangover after winning the NBA championship for in season tournaments Have to be exhausted drag this five-time champion coming to San Antonio See I guess what else can you say you can't say before halftime We don't make all rules. You know what? I like Darvin Ham's switch of the lineup. I like who he...

Yeah. In terms of what? Bringing Reeves off the bench or... Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, Christian Wood was playing entirely too much for them. Them guys was... You need some dogs out there, man. You need the Prince of the...

Yeah. You need the Prince of the... Yeah. You need the Prince of the... Yeah. You need the Prince of the... Yeah. You need the Prince of the...

Yeah. You need the Prince of the... Yeah. You need the Prince of the... Yeah. I mean, like, Christian Wood was playing entirely too much for them. Them guys was, you need some dogs out there, man. You need the Prince kid, the Vanderbilt. You need them to be your, I'm saying your lean on guys. Guys who are going to play on both ends, who don't need the ball, but effective in their moments. So, yeah, him switching the lineup up, I think, is beneficial. And riding them guys out, like, just really depending on them

and playing them guys in the minutes that's deserving. Yeah, so. I think it'll be all right this year. I don't know to what degree. Champs. I think they officially, throughout the minutes, restriction, They'll be I did you know I don't know to what degree champs Minutes restriction all that Shit shit. We got champs. We got sedan have no choice. Yeah

Okay, keep him at 20 25 to 30 if you want to okay, that's just sounded great when he thought of I'm gonna tell the media this shit That's this we go. We go protect the 38 soon to be 39 year old We're gonna live in his minutes and all that shit the motherfuckers one up one down one up one down 80 No points in the fourth quarter. Oh once again, no points in the for all shit, ooh Listen son. Hey, hey, bro. Let me talk to you Know what I had see it, but we're going to have to... F that. I wonder what that combo was. Now, you know what the best part about this is, right? We still going to trade a couple of motherfuckers anyway.

Yes. We done won an in-season tournament, and we trading. We getting better. We getting better rims, baby. I know we got it made back, but we want the Forgiattos. We don't want this stock shit no more. We want the Forgiattos, baby. Someone must go.

That's sick. Bring on Levine. Or Jamar. You think it's happening? Hell fuck yeah. Who they giving rid of? Listen, we can say all that shit. We just won the in-season tournament.

That's it. We are champions, Gil. You're going to break up a championship roster? That's all we did. We just won. In order to compete later. We can't be content. You need somebody else.

If LeBron ties Jordan's championships this season, he finished with six, and he knocked it out Mike seven months God is good Just champion Why can't the LeBron fans be like the joy why can't we be delusional? Why can't we be delusional shit he just have one man's fan base being delusional. They got to make LeBron the

in-season logo. When he put the weed in the trophy, they got to make that the logo. Then he got to win next year, too, so he can be the back-to-back. Yeah, back-to-back. Yeah, you see, now you talking. They just got to keep making shit up. We got to have some shit

out there, too. 3P, baby. We gotta have some shit out there too. 3P baby! Retired to play volleyball for a year. And he was undefeated. Come back, come back. Undefeated MVP. It's gonna get real nasty when some lower marketed teams are gonna end up in the championship when those are not going to be numbered. LeBron joins the PGA Tour. Yep.

Yep. Came back. I'm back. You got to play with Bronny. That's it for another day. Let's move on to Mostly Fans presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app. Use promo code GIL.

They will match your first deposit up to $100. We got a bunch of video questions. And look, if you want to submit a video question as well, go to mostefansgil at Gmail, send the video over. We have our team is standing by waiting to see if your video is trash or not. If we can feature it on the show, you get $100 in your underdog account if the video is good. So our first video is from underdog user TheProblem6.

All right, my first question is, do you guys regret not winning a championship? And as a diehard Bulls fan, Gil, can you give me some insight on what you think we need to be playoff contenders, maybe conference finals contenders at least? Damn, he didn't say hi to us. So he got two nose earrings, huh? Being in Chicago. Okay, that's one thing. Do I not regret winning the championship?

I was never close to winning one anyway, so you got to ask him that question. Who was in the final two years? I wasn't close. I was first round, second round, so. Did he say he was a Bullsitting and what they got to do. He did. He did say that. Somebody needs to go have Michael Jordan again. My hat like Bert.

Fuck. Go back to fucking 88. No, I'm saying I'm saying shit. Like start over. Start over from 88. Never go in again because. Damn it. Like, no, I'm saying, but shit, like, start over from 88. Damn it, like, no, that shit, it ain't happening, this shit, Jack. Hope you're listening still. No, ain't no regret, man. I wish I would've won one, but I ain't got no fucking regret.

I played my ass off, so no. No. Hey, that's crazy. Chicago would never win one again. But if you tell them that,'re gonna be mad because out of the three top cities La Boston in Chicago, that's the coldest. Well, I mean shit the other two is coldest But unless unless they're drafting great picks it's gonna be hard to get free agents They don't they is the the league is not the same as it was in the 80s and 90s. They're handicapping players from leaving,

so players don't want to leave. Like, you're going to have to sign and trade. Like, the Rose are going to sign this extension. The fuck are you talking about? Whatever this extension is, I'm going to sign it, but you're going to trade me too. That's the most talent I got. Like, when y'all drafted Rose and Kim Noah and Jimmy Butler that that was the wall thing

that's a notion that's when you shit we got out of playoffs because the coach is stupid the reason we got out his first round because Scott Skiles had an air up his ass and he didn't want to play Big fella Eddie Eddie Curry Curry, oh we couldn't guard Eddie Curry and Tyson By Eddie Curry and Tyson at the four and the five we couldn't guard them because Antoine Jamison had to guard one of them Yes, right So we was we was they would have they would have just beat the fuck out of us on rebounds and stuff. But the fact that he was mad that Eddie Curry didn't play him that series, cool. Go put fucking Oceani out there.

Yeah. Go put Oceani out there. But when you have the talent, you didn't really build on it. You let it go. Had the wrong coach. Yeah, you got two talents right now, you're about to let go. Yeah, and getting somebody to Chicago right now. And getting free agents to Chicago right now

in a climate of gun violence. Nice city, though. Chicago's a great city, but more of us as players, the dudes looking like, man, shit, I ain't gonna fuck Chicago even though it's probably been like that forever, but Just the NBA itself has changed right so like when Dennis Rodman was a free agent I'm coming over there when Ron Harper I'm coming over they don't that that's not happening no more There's not everybody want to be in a Sun man

Like Miami got all late. they still can't get there. People look over there like, eight hours a day? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good, man. I'm not going over there, man. I'm not going over there, man. I'm good. Let me just go ahead and- So you say this a real nine to five?

I go to, yeah. Real nine to five. So you- So we got a time clock. So you mean something, I got to be here at 9? Oh, no. Hey, no. They make y'all punch it? No.

In Miami? In Miami, they probably do. Think about it. Like, let's be honest. Let's be honest. You getting $30 million a year, you got to practice, what, 30 to 45 minutes or seven hours for the same thing? For the same day. What about the tax break?

Let me take that $30.45. I'll take that $30.45, man. I got the rest of my day to get... Yeah. Let me go ahead. Go to Chicago. Yeah. No, it's a tough spot.

Just be happy y'all have Jordan. For now. And they wanted me to ask you, will you regret not winning a chip if your career ends up as such? But I know you're going to get there. I won one. Chad won one. That's what I'm saying. What? Winning a chip if your career ends up as such but I know you're gonna get there

That's what I'm saying Player fuck up to Play it off. I think it's fucking my shit practice. But yeah, I got me one. Oh, yes, practice less Joe job. Yep, it's great Still got a ring And I get to be called a WNBA champ, which is cool. But you didn't need to say all that. It could have been like, you know. No, it's nice.

Where's the ring at? My parents' house. Here's a question then. All right. So in the near future, when your last year's coming, would you turn that ring in for five more extra years? I thought you was going to say for some bread. Yeah, that's what it is.

For sure. Take it. You cannot have the ring. Five more years and you can have it. Five more years and five more years of money. Yeah, take that ring. Take it. Fair. There we go. Okay. Yes.

I know Nick Young said he would have done it. If he would have go. Okay. Yes. Turn up. I know Nick Young said he would have done it. If he would have known that was his last year, he would have never went to Golden State. No, he was like, shit, if I don't know when this is going to happen. He said, I got guaranteed minutes over in Minnesota. So, yeah, Minnesota and Golden State. And, you know, the hindsight was, okay, Golden State, they don't be playing in the fourth quarter, so I'm going to get some real time.

You know, that's real. Fair, fair. Right, so to go there and win a championship and you lose your career because you ain't playing here, you a champion, but you ain't, no one's seen shit.

Exactly. Or you go to Minnesota and you, you know, come out to bed 25 minutes a night. That's a tough spot. That is a conundrum. All right, let's move on to our next question. It's from underdog user Will Shelton, 23.

What's going on, fellas? With the in-season tournament just wrapping up and Bron bringing it home, it made me think of the question, would you guys have played harder if the in-season tournament would have been around during your era, or do you think it wouldn't have incentivized you that much? Big fan of the show. Thank you, guys.

Keep going. Peace. That's a beautiful portrait he has in the background of two five-time NBA champions, Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. What's going on, fellas? With the in-season tournament just wrapping up. NBA champions Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. What's going on, fellas? With the in-season tournament just wrapping up. Just, just one second.

Uh, can I get that? They fucking up in the back, though. I'm not even gonna lie. I average. They fucking up in the back. I average 29 a game, brother. I was out there working. Okay.

In season, no season. I was trying to lead the league in scoring, so I had to come out there and play harder. Would you play harder for that 500 recs? I average 29 a season. Okay. I averaged 29 a game, sir. The word is yes. I was playing hard.

That's all you have to say. I was playing hard. Now, y'all been on some shit all week, dude. All right, I'm letting y'all know, all right? I'm for security now. I can pull up here whenever I feel like it. Listen, the bad... Okay, I'm sorry. They can say whatever they want about the in-season tournament and how exciting and everybody played hard.

You got two teams that didn't win no motherfucking game during that time. You got two teams that didn't win shit the whole time. Y'all don't want to pretend it ain't happening. Somebody ain't on a motherfucking 18-game losing streak and another motherfucker on a 20-game losing streak. They only got one win during that time. Yeah. So what's what?

They wasn't playing hard? Yeah, you got... Yeah. They just suck. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think the whole conversation of the players playing hard

is like that shouldn't really be a thing. That is a bad narrative because now it makes it pretend like they ain't been playing hard before this. They just started playing hard in November at this point. Like, even it's dark days, whatever season just started, you're kind of getting used to the hustle bustle of the season. Like, I never deny that you guys are not playing hard basketball.

The crowd is, like, listen, everybody ain't going 1,000%. The bench is, like, coming in, sitting there like this. Right, chilling, hey, y'all. Woo. You know, back then, like, everybody mad mad, like we coming out of training camp, everybody mad about minutes. They ain't getting the minutes they want, so the bench ain't excited, as they would be, right?

They excited in the playoffs, so they have playoff checks. Right, so instead of seven dudes going hard, and playing hard, and being ready to play, now you got all 15. I got 500,000. You got everybody on the bench excited. They waving the flags. The crowd is excited.

It's the atmosphere itself. Bron playing hard from the beginning of the season to whenever it ends. You know what I mean? Luka, like, show me Luka's November the last three years. Whoever was guarding him in those games, he bust their ass. Very productive. You know what I mean? So it's not what they say.

They're just going to make it. They're going to give you whatever number they're going to give you. They're going to crunch the numbers however they want to crunch them. Yeah, and then you're going to have fans, oh, they playing hard, it's in season tournaments, so they're going to come to these games. Like, it's all just made up things to sell tickets and how you feel about all this this discussion no i just never not played hard so i don't forget it

i really don't i just don't i treated i played hard all the time because it was personal to me so i didn't need extra motivation you say you're a tie was there ever a point in your career where you're like oh i don't feel like playing hard today? No, I didn't have it. When I went out there, but my mind was never going into it that I was going to go

75% or no shit like that. Like, no. Once I lace my shoes up, y'all get fucking ready. That's what I said. I want them to do this. Show me in the past Five to just we just go five years

So they don't have to think that much go into five years and give me all the stars and show me in November Which ones didn't play hard? Which stars didn't play hard? Tatum Jimmy, but show me which ones didn't play hard because this Guys that average is certain. You got to start the season off great. You got to get going. Can't start off like Jordan Poole at 17. You can't.

If you plan on being the guy on your team and you want to be averaging 25 and above, you got to come out the gate fucking cooking and going. Off the top. Ain't no warm up to, you know, let's see how the season go. Like, no, you're going to motherfucker, you got that motherfucker in drive once game

one start. You got that bitch in drive. That's what I said. It's weird, the narrative that they use, because I've never went into the season like, oh, let me get warm. Like, no, like, whoever we're playing, like, you know what I said, it's weird the narrative that they use because I've never went into the seasons like, oh, let me get warm. No, whoever we're playing, you know what I mean? I got a, this man had 36 yesterday, goddamn, I got a 36.

You're competing because there's going to be a point in time after a certain amount of games where that number don't move like that. That needle don't move. The needle moves at the first 20, 30 games. Once you get to like 41, 42, you got 40 points, it might move up 0.2. He scored 5, 0.2 below.

So, you know, getting off to the first 20 games is very important for this star player. 29? Like for him to average 29, just this season, just take Joel Embiid. Right? Them games where he

like he out there like 49 50 30 he's just consistent like so now when he has them games

where he got 11 it don't affect him it don't affect him so now them guys going dude was playing hard at the beginning of the season and I just didn't know

no other way to go for me personally there was never a game where I, like nah, because I was never, I never wanted nobody to have that. I mean, I'll bust Kenyon's ass tonight. Nah, we just not going to have that. For you to say that, nigga, you had a great one. You was have that night for you to say that Then you had a great one, but he was on that night but the most part now we just not finna like there would never been a

Situation on me to bring it up, but there was shard and Pat Beverly thing I think I ain't gonna never feel like he got one on me. Mm-hmm, but never Like and that's that situation that and I approached every possession that way. Mm-hmm damn the game. I approached every possession that way. Damn the game. I approached every possession that way. So for me, I never not played hard. If you put the money in front of me to fire it, okay, cool. It's great if we win it, but I approach every possession every game the fucking same. I just... That shit's just stupid. Like, all right, LeBron James, it's a non-in-season game. LeBron James versus KD, oh, they, you know in season game LeBron James versus Katie

Oh, they're just gonna go through the motions. What's wrong with y'all? It might have been who I'm playing at night I Don't probably have to do as much in my man defensively. But I still got a I'm there whatever. Yeah, like I Don't take this the wrong way. If we playing Houston and Chuck Hayes is out there and I'm guarding Chuck, I'm not. I know that concentration over there. You could have just said the player. For me, that was an easy night at the office.

I'm just being honest. But if I got to go switch off, we're doing other things. Yeah, I'm in tune to all that, but easy night at the home. I'm just being honest, but if I got to go switch off We do another things. Yeah, I'm in tune all that but I'm still going 110 and there's no I Don't know no other way brother for sure and then you put the money in front of guys and for that to be the incentive Is as fuck but as I said, it's crazy because that's what it makes it seem like oh you throw money at him They go harder. Yeah, I made 40 million. They make 45 million this year. Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? You think an extra 500,000 makes them go harder?

They don't understand our thought process, what we're thinking about doing with that 500. People don't understand why each person on the Lakers has something different that they thought of with that $500,000. And all of it was stupid. Guaranteed. Ain't nobody did. We might have got one, maybe two guys that's doing something. The guys on the back end of it. They're going to say something. Four, 13, 14, 15 guy

might do some, with a portion of it that's responsible. The rest of them, they throwing... Did you hear the two people that asked? Man. D-Lo, right? D-Lo, yeah, I'm going to go on vacation.

I'm going to take the family. They can take their families. One, you make $40 million. And you're talking about you're going to take the five because he ain't going to take the money he's actually making to do that. This is like money that don't count. It's play around money.

That's licensing money. Yeah, I'm about to go. I'm about to go get expensive little golf. Like you got money to go to this golf course, but it don't know. That's licensing check. Playoff money. When we get those, back then when we was getting those.

Oh, that's checkoff money. That's vacation. That's whatever. We want a new car. We want a new watch know whatever it is Wait no nature a man should be calling off a man with a license check a possible thing who Alvarado? I'm gonna give it to my kids. Yeah, how cute but he ain't gonna get the money he make it to his get like You don't mean we just figure maybe give you that money But we doesn't say but we figure out we're gonna spin something that we don't

Bread though, but But they didn't win the final no it's not calculated the only person who gonna do something good with that money is the dude who? Make 1.1 million dollars and move 13 14. He made 1.1. He's like, oh shit. This is half my money, right? I'm good. Like they did over the portion of it. Yeah, absolutely. They did some responsible with it. Absolutely Yeah, they did something that oh shit. I'm gonna do something. Well, you saw the graphic They put everybody's presented the percentage of their contract or their yearly salary was like brawn was like 2% Yeah, come on out like he Like, that's bourree money. 2%. Like, some of them, dude, that's card money.

Like, the dude's like... On a plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They carried on with card money. They put this in his account. It's just funny that you... They really think $500,000 is making these guys pay that much harder. Like...

It was a fact to win it. Yeah. That's what it was. Your money was great, but the fact to win it is what it was. Your money was great, but the fact to win it, to say that I won this, went further than... If you put... You get 20 TNT games

the following season, they're going to go harder. They're going to... Shit, I'm going to be on TV next year? Everybody is going to be Jordan Poole out there. I feel like that would make be on TV next year. Everybody going to be Jordan Poole. I feel like that would make them play harder than money. Hell yeah, because I get to be seen by the world.

Like TNT, when you get that schedule, the first thing we look at is how many TV games we get. We don't win. We ain't looking. We got three this year, y'all. We got three. Oh, shit, we moving on up. Shit.

We're going to be owing three, but shit. Thank God for Wimby. Thank God for Wimby, because why are they still on television? Thank God for Wimby. But that's what I'm saying. Because we know, think about it, we know if we get on TV, we're playing on TNT, that's like a reward. Like, I score 40 on TNT.

In my mind, the world's seen it. When you're not on TV, you only really think the people in the arena see it. That's, you know what I mean? It's like, we local. We some local niggas, right? But when we get that TNT game, that's like really. That's what me and Tyree with Halliburton basically alluded to. Oh, you local.

Yeah, you local. On Juice. Yeah, yeah, you know go ahead. Oh juice Halliburton having all these great games. We talked about them on the show. Let's not lie We really didn't give a shit cuz they were on league pass, but now we get some TNT moments. We get the ESPN love He's valid because he's on TV playing like this Whatever but when the masses don't see you. Yeah, that's fair Yes, now somebody gonna put his name in a rap song and this is gone What do you run with Halle Berry? Somebody gonna figure out somebody that's a guy a bar Halle bird Halle Berry. That's a Kanye bar

One of those mumble rappers just mumble Dali Berry that's a Kanye bar Let's move on to question number three another video question this one is from Underdog user real BJ are 82 big fan of what y'all do man. I love the show. I got a quick question as far as in the league what is like the threshold of like the control that players have on rotations like like how much control does certain players have in the league maybe max players or like all-stars on whether or not they want to get subbed in or out of the game. He sent that video from 1957. I know.

I never seen black and white on the video. He threw a filter on it. He threw a filter on there. He did. He threw a black and white filter. He wanted us to see the stains on his wall. He wanted us to see the stains on the wall. Boy, I know you.

Boy, you from the beef sector. Anyway. They did him like Bill Russell Yeah, they had a throwback filter Answer the question. So is there is there a level go for the player Had a player my rookie who told the I got some did she looked at the coach in front of everybody oh you trying to lose huh i was like okay did you get subbed out no we were already losing we were that's why i was getting in the game like we was getting our ass kicked and did you respond or did oh it's hard

it's hard moments i was like no one goes no one go say that you have a platform now If you would like to respond we don't need any names, but we'll save it for another show But just get the retort prepared now say I got this is the person still active. They said it. Yeah, she must be a star I will never forget that moment. Are y'all cool now at least? No. Oh, okay. Let's go jumper. Let's go jumper. Show what my... You know Gil can go make a live video and get her packed up. I will never forget that moment because I was like, dang.

That is mean-spirited. But I still got to go in, so... But not for her. No, we don't play the same position. But... Damn, so she just said that just... Because she, yeah. Damn, that's mean.

Just some hating shit, yeah. We was playing you guys at home Y'all's whooping our ass right and I didn't have my numbers yet Yeah, and coach served everybody out or was starting to serve it while we gave up and I had to pull the If these motherfuckers Played right something like I really went at coach cuz he put it was like Nick Young's your veil Like it was a like and the motherfuckers ain't ready to play don't put that ass in the game It ain't they see the floor again for like 15. I felt so bad

I felt over I was just hot cuz it's like yo like We down 15, but it's like close. It's like a close There's a close 15 Like it was like 15 close to 6 versus 15 close to 30 if you know to me Yeah, you know like when you get your ass... How much time was left? Huh? How much time was left in the game?

It's like nine minutes. Oh, okay. I can understand that. You know what I mean? You're trying to get your numbers in. Yeah, well, the number probably had to be more than 15. No, no, it was about 15, but it was... It was like, you know, like you do something and then like, oh, that went in.

It was like all the shots we made was like, you know, like you do something and then like, oh, that went in. It was like all the shots we made was like, ooh. Like it wasn't like easy. God wasn't coming back. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, some players. I mean, I've watched him run, check himself in often.

Some of my favorite moments. Yeah, we're just going to get a new cover. Well, no, when you, no, when you have a rotation and you know when you're going in and out, and guys know when it's time to go to the table, shit like that. Guys don't have control over it for the most part. Certain situations, coaches, unless you're playing in a bad situation where it's okay, everybody got to fucking play. But the wildest shit I've seen happened in practice.

We're scrimmaging one day and they break the coaches up. We got six players, seven players. So we're running out and playing. We're scrimmaging. And Agent Dantley was trying to get Melo to come out. Melo, one of them days, get Melo to come out. Melo ain't one of them days, I'm not fucking coming out. He just get loud, Melo! Melo! Like trying to get loud with him. And Melo just fucking ignoring him. Man, fuck that, I ain't coming out, man.

L.K. don't know, L.A. Lenny's Clays don't know what to do. Like we stop and practice, he be like, he double dutch, like he don't know any lens club of any lens claims. I don't know what to do. Uh-huh Like we stopped in practice. He they be like double does like you don't know what the should I go shit? I should I but I ain't come now Please How'd you go from being loud and mean as hell to saying please? Like that's the other work You could have just stood on your number like Please Like, that still didn't work. Like, you could have just stood on your number, like, please?

Like, no, dog. Like, you just lost all respect around this motherfucker. You asked nicely. Yes. After being loud, I practiced court in Denver. That shit, I'm saying, it's echoing in that bitch. It's quiet. Yeah.

We all sitting, like, just waiting to see if he going to come out. It's quiet in that bitch. It's just echoing in if you gonna come out It's quiet. Maybe just air corner there business For practice that shit was so funny now though they'd be like like boy nuts I don't, man. The problem with really subbing, like rejecting subs and doing all that, you got a team, right? So, like, it affects your team if you try to use your power on subbing, right? There'll be times in the season where it's like,

yo, get this motherfucker out, man. We trying to, you know what I mean? Like, he in my way or whatever. You got shit like that. But for the most part Like if coaches subbing you out and your man's is coming in, you know little high-fiving shit But you got a little high-five maybe sometimes where mother could tap you like no. Yeah No, I'm not coming out you miss us somebody else

To my teammates used to look at me. They like yo look at this niggas walk, man I had to stroll when I didn't want to come out. Oh, I had this stroll, and I just see that. They all like, boy, you hell, dog. I get to the bench, they all be laughing like a mother, like, man, you didn't want to come out? Like,. And then get to them, they'll make it worse,

get to the bench, and the motherfucker in my seat. Oh, listen, dog. If you saw me walking over and you didn't get up, I would look at you like, die, nigga. Like, oh. Give you that look like... Mm-hmm. Don't even say nothing. I just look at the seat like...

I would say players have more control of when they're coming out rather than when they go in. Oh, no, but if I ask to come out, I'm going back in when I want to. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. If I need one, I'm not waiting. I'm going to go down to this. I'm ready, dog.

It ain't going to be. I'm not asking to fucking get in. Not when I'm playing 34, 35 a night. No, I'm not. Especially if I ask and I ain't in foul trouble or nothing. Or if you get that foul and you know that you're going to get subbed, you're like, no, I'm not especially if I answer and I ain't in foul trouble or nothing If I'm or if you get that foul and you know that you're gonna get said be like no, I'm good I used to try that shit I try to like outsmart the coach

right because I knew like I'm Getting something the second half like second quarter and like soon as I get that wasn't the quarters over like coach agent get stuff for me Right so for me so I can try to put myself back in like To down in fact not even I'm trying to manipulate every day coach a you can sell me don't you know and then sometimes I you know It was like you play the whole first quarter. You think you're coming out sometimes you Leave my ass in there to start the second quarter. I'd be like Yeah, but you want to be in the game but then when you go over your threshold at the time you like

People probably think when guys get up out they see they're like doing on their own like no there's rotation There's a you have conversations like in the huddle and the timeout. Oh, you gonna go in at this time But we just know because if it's every game like why don't you probably think like that? He's subbing himself in like no, yeah that time I blah I go in and at the nine-minute mark Oh, just let him go up and down two plays and go here to let them run them to yeah So they draw two plays should have these two play Only thing that fuck that up if they hit them to shop pop pop you get up So you that way I'm the total opposite

Oh if you want to play my man score twice and you call me and there's I was supposed to go in I'm not going I'm yeah, if you like if I'm gonna come get you and you score twice, I'm right now. Let him go. Yeah. Oh, I'm a yeah if you like one folks come get you and you score twice huh I'm right now let him go yeah No, no, no, that's what I said I said you get mad No, I'm not mad at all either I'm excited for listen and I'm gonna tell the coach right here They can't guard him. Don't you fucking start guarding? Mm-hmm. Right? I'm straight up now. If he get two,

you're four minutes now. Then I can get high now. You know what I'm saying? But no. What if they're high, though? Yeah. If you get a couple. He's going to start fucking up

at some point. Yeah. Or it could be somebody else. Yeah. Seven for somebody else. Just call it like when J.R. used to get high. He wanted to take him.

Man, somebody get ready to get up I'm putting my hand in a chest. No you ain't No, we good let him give him two more minutes he was here I go Somebody if it'll let you Not for the one coach told me to get you me. I just got it He just told me to get you let's watch figure that shit out when they get there Hey, do you know they get over to the table? I didn't Put somebody

Yeah, and on that note go get the person that's cooking like now get in put the bullshit in the game Like yeah, now the nigga that's cooking mad in the game. Like, yeah. Now the nigga that's cooking mad at the coach. Like, yeah, hell. Yes. Trouble maker. Yes. You. Elite level trolling as always. But on that note, we got to call it a day. It's been a productive nearly two and a half

hours. I don't know. You're just pushing it. But another Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Oh, we got the smoke. And we will see y'all on Wednesday. You got to put it down this is cute Thank you. Outro Music I'm out.