Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates Embiids MVP Chances & Cook The Warriors
Episode Date: January 16, 2024Joel Embiid Is DOMINANTING and Draymond Has No Pride as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew discuss Joel Embiid playing out of his mind on his way to a 2nd NBA MVP Award, but his he ducking smoke ...on his way to the award?? They also address Draymond Green's comments that the Golden State Warriors have no pride this season, before moving on to discuss Kyrie Irving carrying the Dallas Mavericks during Luka's absense and Darvin Ham switching things up for the Los Angeles Lakers. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:30 Lexie's Gift For Rashad 0:06:27 Josiah Is The Podcast MJ!! 0:09:21 Gil's Arena Shootout Promo 0:11:41 Gil Cheating At The Shootout???? 0:17:13 Dumbest Social Media Posts Ever 0:31:58 Westbrook Clowns Rudy Gobert 0:40:01 Ant Man Trash Talks Kawhi 0:48:57 The Moment Gil Knew He Was Washed 0:53:42 BREAKING NEWS - Cam'Ron Joins The Shootout 0:55:12 Rick Pitino HATES Losing 0:59:23 The Losses That Still HAUNT Gil's Arena 1:04:12 Kuzma's Disrespect of The Pistons Comes Back To Bite Him 1:07:19 The Fab 5 Reunites 1:10:17 Gil Talks About Ohio State's Maurice Clarett 1:16:10 Mr B Crashes The Arena 1:17:37 Joel Embiid Says He Doenst Want 2nd MVP | Fact or Cap 1:20:34 Joel Embiid Is Ducking Smoke! 1:27:13 Draymond Says The Warriors Have No Pride 1:36:59 Kyrie Carrying The Mavs Without Luka 1:55:29 Nobody Is Paying Attention To Trae Young 2:06:58 How Good Would A Wemby Trae Duo Be? 2:11:03 MostlyFans 2:15:52 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to Gilderland.
We're talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights
everywhere. They just been saying shit about me
and they didn't even fucking know me. This is my
story. This is what I was doing
when I was little. Y'all don't know what we're
gonna practice. We a lock on.
Agency, bro.
Change it, yeah.
That's nice. Yeah. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo!
Woo-woo!
Woo.
How many people you got coming to this damn Gil's Arena shootout
presented by Underdog Fantasy?
Woo-woo, Gil.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
They keep adding people.
This your shootout?
Yeah, but I can't pick who I want.
Golly.
I was happy with the first weak-ass 18 they had.
We got about 30 people now.
50-11.
You know, my calculation has to go up.
You know, I figure with 17 people,
I'm going against the field, right?
Each person takes about 300 shots.
That's probably about, what, 6,500 shots a day.
So I can fade that with about 2,000 shots a day.
I'd be in good money.
Now they done added, added like six more people.
The dream killer is unimpressed.
He said, add wherever you want.
Nigga going to analytical school.
Ain't he?
Doing all them numbers and math.
Shit ain't gonna help you, boy.
That shit don't help you when I just walk in there and shoot my shots and get out of there.
I'm gonna calculate nothing.
Yeah, I know.
We're going to talk about that in a second.
As always, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
You really stepped your fashion game up.
We got these nice hostile territory sweatshirts and Gil's Arena sweatshirts.
Yes, sir.
I heard you see your collab with Tough Crowd.
I'll be making a little detail. I love that.
Little detail he be putting in there.
You know, making me feel like I'm rich.
But we got Lexi Brown back here with us.
Hey.
What's up, Lexi?
What's up?
I'm car.
And we got the dream killer, Rashad McCants.
Why is his name the dream killer?
That's a question you have to ask him.
Oh. That's his nickname you have to ask him.
Oh.
That's his nickname.
I thought you gave him that.
No.
Oh.
Why is your name the Dream Killer?
I mean, because I'm the one who's going to tell you that outfit is some trash, nigga.
Let me crush your dreams real quick.
Okay.
Let me go ahead and crush your dreams.
My nigga, I say this.
Do not bring that shit back.
Okay, I get it.
Leave that shit upstairs. I want you to take that. Is it the ankle? It's a nigga. I did this. Do not bring that shit back. OK, I get it. Leave that shit upstairs.
I don't want this outfit.
I want you to take that.
Is it the A-list?
Mm-mm.
Y'all can trash my J's.
I'm going to trash everything else.
I've never trashed anything.
But I'm going to put y'all shit on the board.
You know what we used to do?
We put that shit on the motherfucking board.
We used to check in, come in the locker room,
if your shit was on the motherfucking board,
your whole outfit.
Don't bring that shit back in here. don't bring that shit back in here.
Don't bring that shit back in here.
We had to retire one of my former teammates' velour outfit.
Hey, you can put it on.
Put it on the wall.
Do not do this again.
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Yeah, the girls will like it.
They're not going to shame you.
But before we start the show, Lexi, you have a gift, I believe.
Oh, yeah.
You want to share?
So I haven't seen Rashad since after Christmas.
So I gave him a regular friendship bracelet.
Okay.
Okay.
But.
Which means he's not really my friend.
Y'all have been harassing me for weeks about this beautiful place.
So.
No.
It's Applebee's.
$25 Applebee's gift card. Oh.
And another friendship bracelet that says, I heart Applebee's.
I love Applebee's.
Look at that.
Rashad and his minions will not let me rest.
You can eat there for a month on $25.
That's a lot of skillets.
You making those?
Huh?
You make those?
The bracelets?
Yeah.
Yes. I made more. I make them every day. It's OK. See, and y'all got your money on her. You making those? Huh? You make those? The bracelets? Yeah.
Yes.
I made more.
I make them every day.
It's okay.
See, and y'all got your money on her.
She's spending her time- Excuse me, I was at the gym this morning.
No, what I'm saying is she got her time making bracelets and she's not at the gym.
I am doing both.
Okay.
All right, just checking.
Lexi's spreading good news.
Please, lady.
This is me supporting- But this is where the disconnect happens. Okay? What is the disconnect? Ain't none of my work going to want to go to Applebee's, lady! This is me supporting. This is where the disconnect happens.
What is the disconnect?
Ain't none of my work going to want to go to Applebee's.
You have no Applebee's level work.
Oh, that's too expensive for the work.
I just, it's like, you know, the work nowadays is just, they just don't get it.
They don't get that it's food and I'm testing you. But this is, you know 20, they see 25 and they like, oh, we can't even get two appetizers.
So you get a whole mess with the wrong girl.
You got to go, listen, go to the bus stop, right?
All the girls, no, all the girls on the bus.
That means they don't got cars or they know dudes with cars.
Those are the ones who go after you just ride that up.
And you find the right drink.
Happy hour.
Yes. So go get them. Look, last ride that up in the back. That's for my drink, happy hour. Yes, go get them.
Look, last time I pulled up.
Transfer.
Last time I pulled up to Applebee's with the work in,
she got out and called the bus.
She left you at Applebee's?
She left me at Applebee's.
She did not.
She said this is unacceptable.
She don't got the vision.
Right?
So I said Uber Eats next time.
We ain't going to lose.
Wrong place, baby.
RTD bus, if that's what they call it. Metro bus.
But look, I appreciate, listen, I appreciate this.
I'm telling you, your people have not let me rest.
I know.
Before Christmas.
These ain't my people.
You know I don't got no people.
Those are your Applebee's people.
You know I don't got no people.
These are triggered men.
These are triggered men trying to go on dates just like me.
And we hungry, we like Applebee's.
And y'all all say no. If you have dreams to go to Applebee's with the work, or whoever y'all trying to go on dates just like me. And we hungry. We like Applebee's. And now I'm supporting y'all's dreams to go to Applebee's with the work or whoever y'all want to go with.
You're welcome.
Applebee's level work, though.
Red flag.
Red flag.
It's a red flag for Applebee's level.
Why?
They get massages, too?
It's 2024.
Cheap.
They just happy with a man who got a car.
That's it.
He picked me up.
He picked me up.
Jesus.
Here's what's cracking in the arena today. With Luka's sideline,
Kyrie has been cooking.
But what do the Mavs need
to be a threat in the West? Jason Kidd
said they need some size.
Maybe true, maybe not.
And B says he doesn't care about winning his second
MVP and isn't deliberately ducking
smoke. But is that facts or cap?
And Draymond said the Warriors don't have pride.
But will they have enough pride to even make the play in this season?
Ooh, we shall find out.
We got a San Francisco treat for that ass.
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So we got.
How do you remember all that shit?
He be doing good, though. He's killing it. Block work. So we got how you got all A's. Huh? Y'all making fun of him for doing his job well.
I do my job.
Nah, because when we do other shows.
Nah, nah, nah.
That's not it.
That's not it.
When I do other shows, you do it too well.
You're like, you're doing everything.
It's too good.
I know you're doing it too good.
I know when you do other people's pods, they rely heavily on that prompter.
We do not have a prompter.
That's why I be looking at the podcast.
We were trying to get our weight and our budget up one day.
But even if we did, I'm going Reese Davis all off the top up the top baby you got like you the mj you the mj
that's the first first positive thing y'all ever said about me in the history of this show
and it was still kind of a backhanded compliment they both gave you. No, it wasn't! Like, man, you sit home and memorize?
On the way here, on the way here.
MJ, this is MJ right here.
Let me do it again, let me do it again.
MJ host right here.
And shout out to whoever in the chat said,
I could tell Josiah grew up in a gated community.
We had a gate, it was not in a community.
Damn, bro.
He had a chimney and everything.
Shit.
But ladies and gentlemen, that is neither here nor there, because this Saturday
is the moment that you've all been waiting for and some of you have been waiting for.
The first annual Gills Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy, Saturday, January 20th
at the District in Chatsworth, California.
Our qualifiers, which we got three more, Max is Nice, Chris Jackson, Famous Lost,
added to the fold to extend our time, still getting the same bag, Gil, I'm not really
happy about it.
We need to condense, consolidate.
We don't need more shooters.
No more.
We need less.
But shout out, three legends have entered the fold, but our qualifiers competing against
our celebrity influencers and the Gil's Arena crew in a winner takeall battle for $100,000 of Underdog Fantasy's money.
So back in December, I asked some of the potential qualifiers
which NBA player their shot resembles.
This is what they had to say.
If you had to compare your jumper to anybody in the NBA history...
I'm going to have to say Curry.
Steph Curry.
I wouldn't say Steph because that's just obviously Steph.
I shoot just like Steph.
I shoot like Ryan Scalabrini.
Why y'all do that to that man?
Next.
Man!
Might have made six.
Get this man off the show.
I think I made one.
He said Scalabrini.
There's a hundred thousand in line.
You can probably beat them right now.
We were warm.
We just weren't hitting shots.
You seen any shooters yet?
So far, no.
So far, no.
I witnessed a one out of 25 performance, so.
Wasn't nothing impressive.
Kind of like baffling to me.
Man, nobody's winning that 100K.
We got washed up hoopers in here.
Give it back to Gil.
Ain't nobody winning that.
They keep shooting like this.
It's about to be a breeze.
Woo!
And this is my competition.
My competition is my coworkers.
No, the trial was horrible.
There were more Steph Cummins than Steph Currys out there in December,
but that might not be the case on Saturday
Now as we mentioned underdog will also be doing special pick'ems. You can go to the app
Slide all the way through they got a special gills arena pick'em section where you can do higher lower on all the contestants including the gills
Arena crew so Rashad underdog fantasy is listed your first round higher lower at
19.5. This is 25 mid-range shots, five different spots.
You got to zigzag because we're in California.
That's how we get down.
Mm-hmm.
Are you hitting 20 or more middies?
Mm-mm.
No, goddamn chance.
When you say zigzag, you're saying like... You can't go rack to rack.
You got to zigzag.
Like a star drill.
Boop, boop, boop.
Oh, good.
Keep you on your toes.
See, your jumper is really that wet.
And then you said starting with mid-range? Mid-range, you know, boop. Oh, good. Keep you on your toes. See if your jumper is really that wet. And they said start with mid-range.
I'll do that.
Mid-range, you know, 25 from five spots.
Yeah, I didn't go order no racks or any of that kind of stuff.
Oh.
Or just get the key to the gym that we're actually
performing at from a guy who's a friend of mine who
owns the gym.
Sounds like you're taking a shot at somebody.
No, I'm just saying.
It's just kind of, I ain't going to cheat you.
I'm going to beat you.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I'm here for.
I'm not going to cheat you.
I'm going to beat you.
You know what I'm saying?
Because you're not in a group chat, right?
I think you would have been offended to find out, you know,
six days before the event.
He's been in there longer than six days.
No, I know.
But finding out six days up until the event. I didn't know he's been using this.
I just found out.
Oh.
Because he thought I was upstairs wasting my time shooting.
You thought he was outside and cold?
I didn't know he was actually at the gym we're shooting at.
Yeah.
I didn't know we had access to it.
It's a public gym.
You know why?
Because that's his man.
Yeah, but you shouldn't be shooting there. Exactly. It's not what?
Cuz none of us are shooting in the gym. Say it again Lexi! It's not fair! It's not fair! It's insider trading!
Yeah, you can't shoot in there. It's called cheating! From now on, stay out of district. But Lexi, Lexi before we get into all that
You got some shots up. Yeah. Posted them on Twitter recently. So let's take a look at your form.
See what's on point. bottom of the net bottom of the net
another another one another one seven on y'all that was the end too I had made more before the
oh we know started recording but I just like the way the net was sounding.
Okay, I see.
Everyone was like, well, you get ready for the shootout.
No, I have a season that starts next week.
You don't even have to see the video.
You just hear that sound.
Yes, the sound.
Boop, ching, ching.
So I bet on the right person.
I'm a good judge of character.
Mm-hmm.
So, Rashad, as you pointed out, Gil has been practicing at the district in anticipation
of the first annual Gil's Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Woo woo.
Woo woo.
You take an issue with that.
I did.
Or just invite us.
No, he wouldn't do that.
Extend the invitation.
He wouldn't do that.
And if we choose not to show up, then that's on us.
But you can't just sneak in there.
Okay.
Without us.
Sneaking means that I'm actually, like, it's not a, it's a public gym.
Okay, but we don't know when you're going.
You got to pay to be in there.
Yeah, you got to pay to use the seat.
You're not paying to use nothing.
I'm paying $30.
You're not paying nothing.
Stop capping, bro.
It's a school.
Stop capping.
That's your man, Frank Robertson.
Yes.
The reason he won't hit me back, because I tried to do all this stuff beforehand.
All the contests, the contests and all that shit is happening. Robertson yes the reason he won't hit me back cuz I tried to do all this stuff beforehand all the
Contest the contest and all that shit is happening. I went there and said I want to do some shit called money shot here
We never hit me back. Let's take a look at Gil. Let's take a look
They don't want me to get into it
Frankie get into it Frank Frankie don't want to hit me back
because I used to really, really put
hands to feet for that ass.
It's personal?
In the gym when it comes to that five on five,
one on ones and all of that.
Frankie, baby, know who I am.
He's betting with Gil.
They all betting with Gil.
So they can't fuck with me. They don't want to fuck with me.
We don't rock with shot like that.
Come shoot at the gym.
Hey, hey, come shoot at the gym, bro.
They go to Key.
They go to Key.
You can go at night.
You can go at night.
When no one's there, because he said it's an academy,
so the kids got to be there all through the day because i've been there before when they all playing they're hooping and doing
all this so there's no room in the gym there's never any room in the gym so the kids are there
so at night it's the only time you could really get in there okay when it's closed when it's closed
you got a nice time uh some days 8 30 after the last practice that's the only time you can get in
that gym but the other gym the smaller one you can get there anytime if content creators not in there. Hmm
So are you gonna get mad at like maxing them because they shoot at the song no maxing them
I know Gil no one should be shooting there
No one that just happened to be where it's at because it has the biggest space it just happens to be where it's right
It's there and shoot there. We got to doing it because the contest is gonna be there?
Yeah. You got three kids that
go to different high schools. You could go to all of them
high schools and get into them high schools. But why would I
want to? Because you don't shoot
at the place we're all shooting. The people that's coming
in from different places all over,
they only get 20 minutes before we warm
up at the gym. Who the fuck is that?
But you're basically creating
like a home court advantage for yourself.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
So wait, hold on.
So we play in the arena in the game, right?
So I should spend my time in the practice gym.
No, but then you win a home court advantage.
Or should I just go into the main gym where I'm going to be Gilbert?
You're not going to fly.
You're not going to fly from Washington to Golden State two days earlier before the team
just to get three more hundred thousand days earlier before the team just to get three more
hundred thousand shots up before
the team arrives. You get on the plane
just like everyone else does. And if you want to get early
shots, you go a couple hours early
just like everyone else does. The day
of the game.
So, you're doing this shit
prior to for months on end
is like...
It's baffling. when I come into a city
That's crazy when I come into the city. I don't go to 24-hour fitness. I don't go to the local gym
I go right to Staples at 3 o'clock
No one's there
period
Same day the game I don't spend my time shooting at the 24-hour fitness and I'm about to play at Staples later tonight
I'm not gonna shooting at the 24-hour fitness, and I'm about to play at Staples later tonight.
I'm not going to be at the beach. But that's the same day.
I'm not going to be at the 24-hour fitness when I'm shooting at this rim.
His rationalization is weird.
That sounds idiotic.
You've been doing it for three months, Gil, not the day of.
You've been shooting at the same place.
Wait, wait, how am I shooting here three months,
and the gym just got it when we went there?
No. I understand what you're doing. just got it when we went there? No.
I understand what you're doing.
It makes sense, but it's not fair.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I was saying.
So you can go there and pay your $30
to get your shooting machine.
Now.
That's fair, right?
Now.
If everyone has the same accent.
Now it's fair.
Four days before the fucking contest.
Hey, I can't help it if you thought I was outside.
You can help it.
You can help it. You can help it.
If you want an advantage, you're not going to say nothing.
You'll be like, I'm shooting at the actual place, so I ain't even worried about it.
If I wanted an advantage, I would have never told you.
Let's take a look at the video.
Wait, wait, wait.
You didn't tell me.
You slipped up in the group chat and posted the shit, and I called you on it.
And I fucking, I was like, wait, wait, wait.
Wait, wait, wait.
Is that the district you're shooting at?
Oh you a fucking cheater
We have a video happening
Hold on before that video
Hold on before that video
Your comments was I slipped up in the video correct?
You slipped up and posted it because I triggered you
Okay no no
I triggered him he like you think I'm only shooting in the backyard?
I shoot in the gym You said I I said oh this thing is really cheap
Hold on let me see no I just I just I've been cheated on my life
I just I just wonder I just wonder I've been cheated on my life Lex
There's about 50 messages deep in the chat. No, no, no, I got it right here
Here we go, I said you think I'm scared of someone they added today and I said about Baron Davis Are you gonna let me talk Baron Davis was here. I say, oh you Baron Davis. You scared of Baron Davis. Go ahead
You really think I'm scared of someone they add today? Oh, because they've been shooting and preparing.
Yes, I do.
Laugh out loud.
Scary ass.
Laugh my motherfucking ass off.
Go prepare some more.
In your backyard, with your gun.
That's what I said.
And them hard ass Adidas balls. I wrote, you think I spend my time in my backyard laughing out loud.
He wrote, here he go capping.
So I sent him a video.
Boom.
Oh, so that was the trigger?
Mm-hmm.
What was the video?
And the video was of him at the district.
And I said, boom.
Gotcha.
And he's still going to go to the district.
Boom.
You think I spend my time out there?
Booyah.
I'm actually at the place we going to.
Now go cry. Here you go. This ain't fair
Y'all cheat already he go cheat me bro Tim. This is an advantage. They talking about warming up
I heard you had to warm up Sean
What the fuck is going on man?
What the fuck is going on man?
Y'all rigging the game for Gil
Keep going.
No, no, no.
Don't stop.
I thought he was a shooter.
Don't stop.
Don't stop.
Do I have to continue with you?
I thought you was a shooter.
I'm in the group.
I do.
Hey, say. Where's the shooter at, man?
Where's the shooter at, man?
Because the way I'm going to say it is going to be a lot funnier than that.
Nobody want to hear that, man.
Just show up, man.
The way I'm going to say it is going gonna be a lot funnier than that. Nobody wanna hear that, man. Just show up, man. The way I'm gonna say it is gonna be a lot funnier than that.
Hey, just show up, man.
Nobody wanna show up.
Just show up, man.
That's all I wanna see.
When you shot your 34 shots and I shot my six and you say 10-1, you told me not to complain.
But now you done shot a 200,000 shot.
Damn near.
And you done lost 20 pounds.
Didn't I tell y'all y' don't lose weight waiting for me to fall off
Did not say that verbatim this nigga has lost 20 pounds
Waiting for me to fall off and he's gonna lose some more
Huh? I got the man in the best shape of his goddamn life
His girl should be thanking me. He ain't fat no
more. Yeah.
It's Rashad's fault.
I got him a whole
Laker jacket.
Fourth birthday, I said, this is for you,
Gil. This is for me to you.
This is for me. This is
not from us. This is not
from underdog. This is for me. I bought
this.
You're welcome. Bro, I can. I bought this. You're welcome.
Bro, I can't take you serious enough.
You're fucking welcome.
So we asked to check.
And I'm gonna wear it.
We asked to check.
I'm gonna wear the jacket to the event.
So we asked to check Gil practicing on the shootout court,
cheating or fair play?
67% said fair play.
We got some video of it.
Gil, can we run the video of you shooting?
Can we run the video?
Getting your competitive advantage.
Yeah, I ain't want to.
You weren't even jumping.
I don't need to.
Uh-huh.
That man got a gun.
Get him some buckets.
That man shooting with a gun.
He got the gun.
Mm-mm-mm. Where that goose neck at?
I don't need it.
You got a reach in?
Reach in?
I don't need none of that.
You good?
You don't need any of that?
I don't need none of that.
Gil getting ready for the first annual Gil's Arena Shootout presented by Underdog fans.
It is the Gil's Arena Shootout though, so whatever he want to do to stack the deck.
I don't need to stack the deck.
My work ethic does that.
$30 an hour.
Was that an edit?
Wait.
No.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute.
That was a fucking transition.
That looked like iMovie.
I did that.
This nigga hit me with an iMovie transition.
It looked like he going 10 for 10.
My shit loud. Oh, my lord. I did that. This nigga hit me with an iMovie transition. It looked like he going 10 for 10.
My shit live.
Oh my Lord.
I did all mine live.
My God.
It is live.
Oh.
Non-jumping.
Oh.
I did mine live.
Can't take that.
Oh my God.
He got the cojones to come see me.
Time is up.
That 10-1 bullshit is up.
All right.
I think we have had enough of...
No, I'm just saying he's not really thinking about the concept of what he's saying.
Who, Rashad?
No, yeah.
About what?
About your cheating?
Yeah.
Hey, I ain't going to cheat you.
I'm going to beat you.
He don't understand that.
I mean, if cheating that we have competitive advantage
In fact, I'm fine line very about it if someone lost 20 pounds and he's sitting at your mall date
That's a different mindset
Right. Oh, that means you scared to death
That mean you got to be asking people is McKay is really working out right now. I don't give a fuck what you do
Hey, is he you think he's working out to be asking people, is McCann really working out right now? I don't give a fuck what you do. Hey, is he?
You think he's working out?
To be honest, I don't give a fuck what you do.
You think he's?
You can be at the beach, you can be at 24, because it's open 24 hours.
Hey, you think he's working out?
You can be...
I've seen your videos.
Are you going to shoot in the contest with them glasses?
I don't know.
Depends.
I might shoot in the moon boots.
I mean...
I don't know.
I don't think he going to show up, to be honest.
I don't think he going to show up.
I would advise you to not shoot in the moon boots.
I know.
I advise him not to show up.
I do a lot of shit I'm not supposed to do.
Glasses could be okay, but moon boots.
I do a lot of shit I'm not supposed to do, you know what I'm saying?
I like to toe the line.
I'm a habitual line stepper.
But we advise all of you out there to pull up to the district.
Competition starts at 1pm.
Pull up early.
We got food trucks.
Be there early.
We got Gills Arena merchandise. It will food trucks. Be there early. We got Gil's Arena merchandise.
It will be cracking. We have security.
Huh?
It starts at 1?
Oh. I thought it was in the morning.
Oh, that's good for me, then.
You know, get prepped.
Yeah, I don't know.
I thought it was in the morning.
So y'all said we get to name it whatever we want?
If whoever wins, it's their arena.
Should I just tell y'all now, then?
I might just sleep there.
I might just fucking sleep in there.
You know what I mean?
That night.
I ain't going to be there at 1.
I'm going to be there 1 a.m.
And I'm going to shoot until you motherfuckers get there.
And still lose.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Still lose.
Because Brandon said he coming there early in the morning so he can get his 300, 400 shots up.
Mm.
You know?
Mm.
I'm coming straight from the work.
I'm coming straight from the work. I'm coming straight
from the work to the work and then I'm back
to the work. And it's going to be called
the work arena for a whole
week.
What I'm saying is I don't... But look, I don't want
nobody to... I do not want to be
on the work arena. It's all good.
You can skip the whole week.
Skip the whole week.
You hear me?
You feel me? The's in the contract.
You feel me?
The work arena.
What's up?
We here.
I can't believe they really, like, y'all think I'm going to spend hours, like.
Hours what?
Like I'm going to spend hours at the 24 hours outside.
What?
I didn't think that you were doing that.
I know you've been at the district this entire time.
That was not shocking to me when I saw that video very shocking to me
Competitor and I'm the one being challenged. He's not the competitor. I'm being challenged like of course he's shooting where we're shooting
You know why we do we move into the 24 being if 24 days, you know why we're doing this, right?
You do know why we're doing this.
Y'all do. Because he won't
challenge me, fair? Oh, because of the slam ball.
You know why we're doing this. He won't challenge
me like a man. You know why. He won't stand
on mamba mentality. You know why we're doing
this, right? Why? He cannot
stand to lose. I can't stand
to be cheated. Oh, so this is a slam ball thing, right?
Hey, as long
as I can hold it over his head, as long as I can hold it over his head,
as long as I can hold it over his head, he can't.
He, well, yup.
He can't sleep at night.
If he gets farther than you,
because he's not going to win.
It's tied now.
1-1.
All right, well, can I ask you something?
As a shooter, all right,
tell me if this is fair since you want to talk about fair.
Uh-oh.
He goes two for 24 from shooting on the slam ball thing
because it's a little different.
So he's just out there shooting.
24 shots.
Then he challenges me.
Oh, did I challenge you?
I take eight shots.
You're here to snitch?
He took 12 shots.
You're here, aren't you?
So he has a total of 34 shots to my eight.
So he wants to scream 10-1 when it's really 8-2.
Was that fair?
I mean, technically
no, but he won.
Yeah.
Can I go?
Final comments. He said that
I challenged him.
I'm sitting there and just, I'm fucking
around. And then all of a sudden I keep
hearing, oh, you can't shoot like that.
You ain't got no test.
You can't shoot like that.
Boy, you freaking out there.
I said, Gilbert, what you doing?
Come on out here and shoot with me.
How about we go first to ten?
Okay.
Let's go first to ten.
First to ten.
He took six shots.
But this is what he does on his podcast, right?
He leaves here, he goes there, and then he doesn't have pushback,
so he just tells the story without anybody else knowing what the fuck is going on.
He lost, and he can't take the fact that I was talking so much shit
after hitting eight in a row.
On the slam ball.
He didn't make eight in a row.
Slam ball, guys.
I know.
That's what I'm saying, slam ball. And that's why I said I didn't make it. Slam ball, guys. I know. That's what I'm saying. Slam ball.
And that's why I said let's, let's, let's.
I've done challenge.
I done challenged him 100 times and he won't,
he won't stand on the mama mentality.
So Saturday he got to stand on it.
When you go to the court outside and it's a double rim,
do you complain about the double rim outside?
I feel like double rim and slam ball
can not be the same thing.
Do you go to the court outside?
He took 24 shots.
He was two for 24.
At least I'm two for motherfucking eight.
No, you're not.
You're right now.
You've warmed up 200,000 shots now.
To my what?
Two?
I'm talking about on the slam ball.
I'm talking about right now.
I'm talking about you at the district
shooting thousands of shots to my two.
I don't got no shots now.
So who got the advantage now?
Oh, I do.
Okay.
And we will find out Saturday, January 20th
at the district in Chatsworth, California.
Put your money on Gilbert.
Y'all have done a great job promoting the fight.
Put your money on Lexi.
I feel like Don King right now.
Only in America.
All right, pull up Saturday
and watch live on Gil's Arena YouTube channel.
But we have a show to do, so let's do it, okay?
We're going to grind it all night,
get this show prepared for y'all.
This was great content, though.
So yesterday we celebrated MLK Day.
We already knew the FBI would get packed up for their annual pro-MLK tweet,
despite their documented history of being anti-MLK.
God bless community notes.
But the Raptors had some explaining to do for this MLK tribute.
Oh, gosh.
So we see it right there.
Raptors Twitter account.
They posted four photos of Dr. King, and each, when enlarged, included images of there Raptors Twitter account a posted four photos of dr. King and each when enlarged included images the Raptors players meant to show love to the
Civil rights hero problem is it looked like MLK was in the crosshairs of a sniper's rifle
Wait so they posted it separately so each one of those was a photo
But the person might have put it together when you show it on Twitter, that's how it pops up as a four-way
It looked like the crosshairs of a sniper rifle. Oh
Okay history, you know, no, that's how we met is the month
The Raptors deleted the tweet, but as we all know once you press in it's too late blame Canada. It's all good
So what's the dumbest thing you've put up on social media? Oh
That you feel comfortable talking about
on Gil's Arena presented by $100 Fantasy.
Woo woo.
I don't post dumb things on social media
for this exact reason.
Okay.
I'm very, I don't.
Keep it in the draft.
How do you know it's not dumb
and someone says it's dumb?
No, because I like,
I have like a very complicated like thought process
when I like tweet things or post things.
I'm like, okay, I read it out loud.
Does it sound dumb?
Okay.
Will this offend anybody?
Do I care if it offends anybody?
What will my parents think?
And then what will the Sparks think?
And that's what I think.
So have you ever deleted anything in a panic where you put up like, oop.
Sometimes maybe if I'm like, I don't really feel like getting into no argument with people.
So sometimes I'll delete it.
But it's not necessarily dumb.
It's just kind of like, I don't feel like dealing
with whatever people got to say.
Rashad, what's the dumbest thing you put up on social media?
My ex is a hoe.
Yo.
That was dumb?
Was she promiscuous?
I don't want to get into it.
I'm saving for the workshop, but you know.
That's all you put?
It was a whole meme on it. I did a whole job with it.
And she ain't even on Instagram like that, so it didn't even fucking matter.
I was just venting. I was just fucking venting.
I was like, she's a hoe! She's a fucking hoe.
Shit.
A woman of the night.
Gil, what's the dumbest thing you put up on social media?
You're my f-
So I seen this video of two girls playing basketball in bikinis.
And I said, ooh. Ooh.
The WNBA girls should wear this,
and we'll come to the game.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, yeah, don't get me started on this,
how he was talking about us.
But, I mean, not really.
We really don't want to see you in that.
But it was just a concept.
If you dress a little bit...
More sexy, huh?
Sexy.
We don't need Allen Iverson pants.
We don't need the Michigan shorts and shit.
Just regular clothes and then boom.
Roll them up.
Roll them up.
You don't wear them long shorts no more.
I know, but they got offended
and then usually when someone gets offended, I get
re-offended and then I double down.
Yeah, I just double down.
I just be like,
that was a process.
This is going to offend anybody?
Man, not that much.
Like sin, and then they get offended, and I'm like, well, I got worse.
Re-sin.
I got the one I didn't sin.
This is the one I said no.
What I wanted to say.
Lexi, are you offended by that?
I mean, it's funny.
She wasn't in the league then.
I'm offended for you.
I mean, yeah.
All women should be offended because you should apologize
He needs to do anything now. We know no
You apologize. Oh, I apologize to sit. Yeah. Yeah on behalf of John wear bikinis on Instagram just for the hell of it
That's their choice though. And what does it wasn't the I it wasn't that like not that
Type of it wasn't where that it was wasn't that. Like, not that. It wasn't we're that.
It was just the idea of...
That would be nice.
Now, just like...
Yes, for me.
Like, sex appeal for the audience that you're trying to attract.
Right?
And, you know, I think the idea, like, what women was pushing back on was,
we're not there to be sexy for you.
Correct.
Correct.
But we're the audience that you're trying to pull in.
You want us to come in there and buy the beers, the food, this, that, that.
That's just how it is.
When they're picking cheerleaders, they're picking cheerleaders for a fourth quarter drunk dude.
Yep.
That's it.
Right?
Our play isn't good enough.
No, but lingerie football league. The lingerie football league. Take that. Don't watch men because their play't good enough. No, but lingerie, the lingerie football league,
the lingerie football league,
take that.
Y'all watch men
because their play is good enough.
No, no, no, no.
Y'all think they're sexy?
Think about the dress code.
No, think about the lingerie football league.
Y'all think the NBA players are sexy?
That's what y'all are telling me right now.
Do you think women will play football?
Because we do the same thing
and everything y'all are complaining about
what's wrong with the NBA right now,
we do very well.
So I'm just like, y'all want us about what's wrong with the NBA right now. We do very well. So I'm just like
Y'all want us to be sexier? Okay sexy. That's all relative to who's watching but think about who do they promote?
The guys that the women find more attractive
Relative I mean relative to you know relative relative to the to the to the polls They are ending with tightening the jerseys up and all that wearing shorter shorts looking cleaner
Yeah, no drip like like no all of that all of that like that mattered kiss cam
Who would you date? That's what you go in those arenas later. Who would you date date night with this player?
it's all it's all to...
Because the men are coming there for the sport, for the most part.
So they're trying to attract the women.
I'm coming to watch high-level hoops.
Because they said, listen...
Thank you, Josiah.
Okay.
Yeah, you're coming.
But look, why would they call it Basketball Beauties?
Why would it?
Why would they call it Basketball Beauties?
The league that they have.
Basketball Beauties League.
Oh, I don't know.
The models playing basketball. Not always. Have seen this? Yes, I've been there
Yeah, but the reason why they were doing that is to bring guys in to watch the models play ball
But then they suck and I don't know what you're okay cuz they're pretty no we're the talent at
What are we here? Are we here to watch the talent? Oh
No, because then you would be at the WNBA.
Exactly! That's why they made the Basketball Beauties League.
But we have beautiful WNBA players.
But they're not wearing that stuff. They're not wearing the full-on makeup. They're
not out there prissy. And they don't have 700,000 followers all in fucking bikinis and
shit. They got their own little thing. They got OnlyFans and all this other shit.
What's so funny is that they're doing a better job now.
Yeah.
They are doing a better job.
They're understanding that.
I mean, and we as players understand.
We're not dumb.
We know what people are saying.
We listen.
Why do you think there's such a shift in how we are arriving to games, how we look on the court, hair, hair done?
People used to get on us about having lashes,
nails, whatever, but that's what makes us feel good.
It doesn't affect how we play.
Y'all are like, we don't want to see
on the court. Okay, here's what you want to see.
Y'all still complaining.
Fucking focus on the basketball being played.
I don't want to see shit talking, buckets,
some of this, all that.
What you're complaining about is the same thing we did
when they say
Dress code right? It was like we want to goddamn dress code. We wonder where it is and it was like there's like who sees us
Fast forward now everybody became fashionable. Yeah right now now coming in the arena dress nice is a thing. Yeah
You know to me now is the thing at first we've fought against it right that same idea put so much money in everybody else's pocket because now they can get more deals because they look more attractive than
They were in a baggy suits with the big chains. Yeah. Yeah, I mean my second season
We went to the games and like our team sweats and I was like
They wanted us to be professional.
Let's keep this thing moving.
Got to talk about a few things that went down in the Clippers-Wolves game this weekend.
First, we got Westbrook clowning Rudy Gobert while he was shooting free throws.
Let me know what you're doing.
I got you.
I got you.
I'm watching right now.
All right.
All right.
You shooting right now? Why he, all right. You shooting right now?
Why he watching?
Oh!
You died, bro!
Who recorded that?
There was a fan sitting close to Westbrook.
Shout out to Westbrook engaging with the road fans,
really helping promote the league.
But it wasn't just Westbrook.
The entire Clippers bench was in on the action.
Has missed two of them.
The whole team.
No, Norah Powell not really rocking the shot like that.
Brian Shaw cracking up.
Both highly getting a good laugh out of it.
I mean, there's some people.
Did they win?
No, they lost.
Nope.
Gobert got the last laugh, though.
Careful there.
Gobert got the last laugh,
hitting four clutch free throws in the final minute of the fourth quarter
to help seal the game,
while Westbrook smoked a layup in the final moments
that would have cut the Wolves' lead to two,
but it was like a second remaining.
Probably wouldn't have made a difference.
But it brings me to my question.
What's the most disrespectful thing an opposing team's bench
did to you during the game? Lexi, I'll start with
you. I've never had a bench be disrespectful to me. I feel like it's coming though. I've never
really given anybody a reason to be disrespectful. So those moments are coming. You think so?
I mean, I'm going to be frying everybody. Fair. But if you're frying, it's hard to disrespect when you're frying.
Sometimes you have to.
That's like you've got to just hit low.
Right, low blow.
Let me say something crazy.
Yeah, for sure.
Let me distract her a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Rashad, what's the most disrespectful thing an opposing team's bench did to you during the game?
Man, I was coming back from my micro fracture my second year.
I had just came back, I was in Phoenix.
I had just had a conversation with Grant Hill.
He told me that I might have rushed back too early.
And James Jones was in the game against me.
And Marcus Banks, one of my homies back then, he was on the bench.
And I made a move
and I got fouled,
but the move was so old and nasty.
He was just like,
what the fuck is that?
Ew!
All I heard was,
ew!
I was like,
yo, did you say that out loud, bro?
What the fuck?
You're supposed to be my man.
You're the last person that's supposed to say that.
And I missed the break.
Ill was so nasty.
I was like, yo.
And I, you know, it's just one of them things.
I had to use that as my fuel for the next season.
Use it as motivation.
Yeah.
Gil, what's the most disrespectful thing an opposing team's bench did to you during the game?
We was playing Golden State in Washington.
And this is the year after I missed the free throws.
OK.
So I missed the free throws.
The LeBron?
Yeah, the LeBron tap.
So what ended up happening, we're down two.
I drove and got fouled by, they said he was the Michael Jordan of France.
Who, Petrie?
Yeah, whatever the fuck he was.
Petrie.
Torched the fuck out that dude. He was at Golden State? He was. Yeah Jordan of France. Yeah, whatever the fuck he was. He torched the fuck out that dude.
He was at Golden State?
He is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I got fouled, right?
I got fouled.
And then Don Nelson blew a gasket because there was no time left.
Like, point one.
They had to put point one.
Right?
And he blew a gasket, so it became three free throws.
Oh, shit.
The whole bench.
Right?
You ain't going to make it.
Choke, Artie. You choke.
Don't worry, coach. And they just going the whole time. And I'm like, oh, y ain't going to make it. Choke, Artie. You choke. Don't worry, coach.
And they just going the whole time.
And I'm like, oh, y'all think this last year.
Y'all think this last year.
Nah, just going on to eight.
Coach, just going on to the locker room.
I got this.
Boop, boop, boop.
Boop, boop, boop.
Yo, do you have any proof?
You do.
Wow, that was quick.
Gil made the technical free throw.
He made the first free throw to tie it first free throw to tie our technical to tie it
So the technical put y'all over
The first three throw to tie and then he hit the the game winner
And then Matt Barton made a bad pass
No, no in this with the fucked up part about the fucked up part about it is my coach called the timeout
No, because the side was going so crazy, you know
Time I like I got this we got that home, right? Yeah
I see man your own squad ain't turnover by Matt Barnes.
Bad pass.
Shout out Matt Barnes.
All the smoke.
Bad pass.
I don't believe it was a bad pass.
They should have just called it.
It was.1 agency.
I love that they do that.
That's so wack.
With the parentheses.
How about this.1 second, no chance of winning the game?
Bad pass.
Start.
Out of bounds.
Like, just say turnover.
Just leave it.
You know what the bad part
about that was?
People that were laughing
shouldn't be laughing.
Shouldn't be laughing.
Some of y'all
play zero minutes.
Well, that's kind of
what happened
with the Clippers.
That's what I'm saying.
No, Clippers, they...
Y'all pissing off the team.
Y'all not even in the game.
Y'all making them all mad
being disrespectful.
You sitting on the bench. Sitting on the bench
laughing like y'all about
to get in. He in the game,
Mr. Freak, do you want in the bitch?
We all know. Well, I lied.
Because I did that when I was in Chicago. If it's funny.
On the bench laughing. If it's funny.
Goofy. If it's funny.
Especially during the playoffs.
Sometimes you got to entertain yourself during those
long stretches.
Yeah, stay focused on the game. I the finals. Oh. Sometimes you got to entertain yourself during those long stretches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Stay locked in sometimes.
Stay focused on the game.
I got to get myself through it.
You can't cheat the game.
The game was too close and it was too early for them to be wilding like that.
Like a bitch.
And then Gobert comes back, hits four free throws in the clutch.
Like it's the first quarter.
You can't cheat the game.
No.
The game will cheat you.
That rush shit.
That rush shit.
That rush shit.
That rush shit.
No better than anybody.
Yeah.
That the hecklers and Westbrook and all that laughing at you,
you got so upset to the point that you made it personal with the fans.
Now you laughing at Rudy.
Rudy ain't a great free throw shooter.
We all know this.
Neither is Giannis.
Neither was Shaq.
I guarantee y'all wasn't laughing at Shaq.
Now, a couple of us might have.
He took him under our feet.
We also never seen Shaq
get chucked out by Draymond too.
But I'm just saying, man.
What did Rudy do?
He hit four in the clutch.
And then Russ misses the layup
where you're supposed to do
a left-hand layup
and you go right-handed.
That's what God's.
Come on, man.
Stop.
You can't do that shit.
This is different, right?
Players talking shit to players, that's acceptable.
I think we get more frustrated when fans interject into something that...
You know nothing about.
You know nothing about.
This is our game.
So we're more sensitive to outside criticism
because y'all don't know what we've been through.
Like, I can say whatever I want to you.
You can say whatever you want to me.
That's part of our game.
But that motherfucker say West Brick and, oh, no, we got problems.
You say it.
Like, you don't think other players have said it?
Yeah, all day.
That doesn't bother because we have this.
You know what I mean?
It's just when the outside world, y'all just watch and just enjoy.
Don't get the name calling
and come up there
and whoop that ass.
That's how we deal with it.
Fans are doing too much now.
They like lost their minds.
My thing is
with the Fritos though,
like we all know
that we've had people,
we've seen Fritos airball.
I've airballed a Frito before.
Like,
it's not a good fucking feeling.
Right?
And even if your teammates
airballing,
you're like,
come on, bro.
Come on, man.
But to see motherfuckers laughing and, you're like, come on, bro. Come on, man. But to see
motherfuckers laughing and shit on the side,
that's, for me,
as a hoop, I'm like, oh, that's what
we doing? Jumping out of seats.
Yeah, that doing it. That was crazy.
Come on, bro. But the fact that he ended up making four
and kept like, okay, he didn't get affected by it, because usually
motherfuckers be able to do it. For sure.
Sweating and shit.
Don't tell people laughing on the bench, like,
but like, jumping up, running off.
It was some extra kiki going on.
It was excessive.
The worst thing as a hooper
is to be crossed over and you fail
or you got dunked on and then someone called a timeout.
Or they just got an and one.
Yeah, and one, then there's a timeout. it's got an and one Yeah, and one thing is a timeout like hold on
You get Duncan and one sub I know man I'm gonna be on the telecast in ten minutes. At least. Let me get my get back. Get back, go. A collective ooh in the crowd.
Like ooh.
That's the worst, that you get dunked on and then there's like a time out of
something and then you just look up and they just replay and it was ooh, like.
Over and over, slow mo, different angle.
Different angle.
Let's talk about another moment from the same game.
Late in the game with Gobert back at the line, Ant Edwards and
Kawhi were getting ready to try and box each other out when Ant said this.
Young nigga versus old nigga.
Young nigga versus old nigga Kawhi.
So for the hearing impaired, Ant said,
young nigga versus the old nigga.
Young nigga versus the old nigga Kawhi.
It was some playful banter, but Ant's not wrong.
Clippers are actually the oldest team in the league right now.
I like that, nigga.
I like you, bro.
I like you.
Did Kawhi smile?
Yeah.
I think he smiled.
They were all joking around.
That's impressive. Yeah, nigga.
Oh, nigga, Kawhi.
Just the fact that he embraced that challenge.
Somebody pointed out he wasn't acting in hustle.
That was just him.
Oh, yeah. He was definitely being himself in that movie.
So question for you first, Rashad.
Who was a vet that brought the best out of you
when you were young?
As far as like challenging me?
Yeah, just like, you come to the league like,
oh, I've been wanting to give this vet buckets
and now I'm here.
Paul Pierce.
Paul Pierce for sure.
Paul Pierce is probably the one guy that was like,
I would always check in and bump him,
and he would just look at me crazy like,
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We on that? We on that?
I'm like, yeah, I got five more fouls, bro.
That's my first one. That's me. My foul.
I got five more.
He said, this is going to be the worst five minutes of your life, boy.
Worst five minutes of your life.
But he ain't ever scored, though. So it was like, I'm waiting for the worst five minutes of your life. But he ain't never scored, though.
So it was like, I'm waiting for the worst five minutes
of my life. I got two more minutes.
Boy, what we doing? What we doing?
Yeah, he's going back and forth.
So Paul was definitely one of the guys that was like,
as soon as he seen me checking, he's like,
oh, yeah, I'm about to get you work, boy.
Alexi, obviously you're still young, but who was the vet
that brought the best out of you?
Um... Probably Kayla McBride.
She busted my ass all through college
when she was at Notre Dame.
So when I got to the league, she's, I mean,
still one of the best shooters in the league.
So when I finally got my opportunity to, you know,
like, get in, make an impact, like, she was someone
I was always really excited to play because she's
someone I had been watching.
She was so cold at Notre Dame.
And I remember playing.
I never beat Notre Dame when I was in college.
Was she talking a lot when she was at Notre Dame?
A little bit.
Yeah, that team was OD.
They had Arika.
Did they have Arika yet?
I don't know.
They had Jewel Lloyd on that team, Kayla McBride,
Natalie Achonwa, all current WNBA players. So that team was stacked.
So Gil, who was the vet that brought the best out of you when you were a young Hooper?
Gary Payton. It was the first time and the only time that I was happy to be subbed out a game. Right? I was, it was like first, like five, six minutes of the game.
He had a quick 18.
Damn.
Right?
And then,
coach subbed me out.
I ran over to,
thank you,
Jesus.
And then at halftime,
he said,
you lucky I ain't
the AI type of dude.
I ought to score 50 on you
at the half.
And I was like,
yeah,
you was.
Jeez.
And then,
get back.
Put it like this.
He should have scored that 50 because every time we played after that,
that was my goal, to score 50 on him.
Them Laker years, them Laker years, the Miami years,
boy, when he checked in the game or he guarded me, 1-4 flat.
Like, I I saw that man
probably more than
Anybody in history. I took that shit that that asked that that would have flashed the glove. Oh you ain't the glove no more
Oh, baby. Oh, this is a little mitten right here. There's a little
This youth league men. Oh, yeah about the run through this one who you look at my point possession versus. Oh my god
No, I'm security to run through this one. You look at my point possession versus, oh my God. No.
Obviously Gary Payton, big talker.
I'm sure he was talking a lot to you when you were young.
Did he keep talking when he was going?
He was going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No.
Nothing, nothing?
No.
CP?
No.
When I was in DC, no, no, we shutting all that down
because as soon as he started, one-four flat.
I remember this.
Bring your ass here.
Come on, get over here.
It was so bad because I never told anybody.
Calvin Booth said, hey, you got a problem with Gary Payton?
And I was like, no, no, what's up?
He said, man, for some reason, every time he gets on you,
whatever play is going, you wave everybody off and you just go at him.
And I had to tell him the story because I didn't realize I was doing that.
It was that obvious.
Wow.
That's crazy.
But it was more out of the respect of that first.
So he brought it on himself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So when was the first time you had that GP moment in the league where you felt, oh, like, damn, I'm washed.
It's time to hang him up.
Niggas are going at me. You had that GP moment in league where you felt old like damn. I'm washed. It's time to sign the hang them up Funny it was my it was one of my last like Ross right it was uh, we're playing Golden State and go to state
young Steph and
Monte Ellis this Memphis now I was in I was in DC still okay, so this is Steph's
rookie year, so this is 09.
And them motherfuckers going back and forth tag teaming me.
Like, they tag all day.
Your turn.
Your turn.
Your turn.
Monte had 30.
Steph had 27.
Right?
But the problem was they pissed me off to the point where I was like, oh, no, no, no.
This is not what we're going to do.
I ended up having 45 and 13.
Okay.
But that was my last big game right there.
But it was like, oh, his leg, his leg ain't moving the same.
So it was after the... Oh, yeah, no, no, that's what I was doing.
I ended up getting suspended that year.
So the leg was already fucked up,
and they was talking about the leg, he dragging the leg.
That was your last hurrah.
That was my last hurrah, yeah.
45, 13.
Did y'all win? Yeah, yeah. 45-13.
Did y'all win?
Yeah, we won 45-13.
And you had 13 of them boys.
Yeah.
No overtime.
It clicked.
It was like, oh, I'm that dude now.
Like, I already knew I was that dude, but you never heard a motherfucker say that shit.
But you wasn't, though.
They was over there tag teaming.
Get them, boom.
You was 27?
Yeah.
Ah, yeah.
Oh, for those days.
But them three knee surgeries, I was got me near limp and drowsy dragging it
I left I left I left I left with a
And I was it that was my last big game
My house a prize for myself, but yeah, we've got some breaking news. Let's just come down the pipeline. Ooh
It's regarding the first annual guild arena shootout presented by underdog fantasy we all had now taking place this Saturday
So a new contestant has entered the shootout
None other than killer cam from the underdog family. Do you heard that right Cameron? What? Hey, hey, hey! What is going on? Cam Brown, he's entering the shoot-up! Oh, boy!
Oh, boy!
Oh, boy!
Just play!
I love it.
I love it.
Bro, we're going to be there all day.
That's all that means.
Cam Brown, we appreciate you pulling us here.
Make it quick.
Okay.
Cam got a jumper.
Cam got a jumper, though. Cam got a jumper.
He does play high school basketball. Didn't pass to Mace, I think, in the championship game.
He got a jumper, though. The New Yorkers got a J.
He got some J work.
Took a round with Sham. Guy was rocking his strip shoes.
Hey, I'm just going to say some Cam shit. It is what it is.
You said you won't lose to a YouTuber. How about a rapper turned sports personality?
I'm not losing to an ex-NBA player.
Or no WNBA player, if that's what you're talking about.
What? What?
You already lost to a former NBA player.
What are you talking about?
We can fly to Vegas. Can I get to Vegas. You already lost to me.
Can I get my other 24 shots to see if I can get more than 10?
Ay-ay-ay!
I can get more than 10, you get my other 24.
This stuff from a slam ball shooting competition is so funny.
We can go upstairs right now and shoot.
No, y'all can't do that.
He not going to do that.
Kill the guy-ay-ay!
He's going to deflect. He gonna do that kill the guy
So cameras higher lower first round 18.5 from the MIDI does have basketball experience
18.5 Wait lower than lower yours is underdog
Jeremy Levine high or low 50 18 minus a little you gonna go lower than you go lower is
18 point five you're a you sure
Underdog fat I'll get cam about
Can't got some up his sleeve 14 again 14 max
Said he's the bottom on them. No, hey, hey! It said he used to ball.
I don't know.
I never...
Played in New York.
Played in high school.
I think played for the Gauchos going over AAU, all that.
Oh, you played for Gauchos?
I believe so.
From what I've watched, from It Is What It Is and the Underdog Family Fantasy...Underdog
Fantasy Family.
This is going to be a great Saturday.
He got to shoot in string shoes though, like Sham Guy used to roll around New York with
back in the day.
He did?
Oh, he said, yeah. NYC Point guy, Doc. Not coming from me. You got good strip shoes though, like Sham Guy used to roll around New York with back in the day. He did?
Oh, he said, yeah.
NYC point guy, Doc, not coming from me.
So you're not losing to Cam?
Come on, y'all. Stop.
All right.
Stop already.
On the subject of losing...
Just stop.
On the subject of losing, nobody likes losing, not st. John's head coach Rick Pitino
No, I don't feel good when we lose I hate the world. So just so you understand that no, I don't feel good
I've never felt good with a lot part of my language. So I don't feel good. I don't believe in those
Valiant efforts on the road. No, I feel like I want to kill myself jump in it in the cold, and die of frostbite.
I had a Nick Saban cream pie joke.
I'm going to save for when I feel like getting fired.
Oh, wait.
Real quick.
They said Cam got a ball in some lugs or some steel toes or some tips.
It don't count unless he rocked a tip.
Cam is crazy.
But let's all go.
You know, we all hate losing on this couch.
But Lexi, I'll start with you.
How long did it take you to get over a loss?
It depends on what type of loss it was.
It also depends on how I played.
So if I played pretty well, it's pretty easy to get over it.
Now if I play bad and we lost, maybe a day.
But next day I'll be like in a gym or... So when you play good and you lose, do you feel like it's your loss or, like...
It still sucks, but I'm like, no, we still lost.
It's y'all fault.
No, definitely a we lost, but...
It's okay, because I hoop, but, damn, we lost.
We still fucking lost.
You still hooping, so we got to be respectful.
You two gentlemen are not...
You say you dropped 40 in the game and your team loses.
Is that a we or is that a...
Y'all niggas didn't really bring it today.
No, I'm already being recorded.
They asked me the question,
Shod, you had 20 points, 5 for 5 from the field.
How do you feel? I don't give a fuck. We lost.
What does that mean? We lost.
What does it matter how many points I have?
It don't fucking matter.
I want to win every time.
I don't give a fuck how many points I got.
If we win, it makes it better for me in the work afterwards.
But work can be very receptive after a loss, too.
No, it's not, because I don't feel good.
Because the work thinks you're a loser?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, what if you win and you have no points?
I mean, we won.
Okay, but is the work still impressed?
Absolutely. I'm a winner.
Team effort, work.
Absolutely.
Team effort.
Hell no. You go 0 for 19. I got this. First of all.'m a winner. Team effort work. Absolutely. Hell nah.
You go 0 for 19.
I got this.
First of all.
1 for 19.
Team effort.
You win.
When you train your work to be really dedicated and really supportive, it don't matter how
many points you have.
You what your work?
Train.
You train the work.
You got to train the work into being supportive and motivating.
Both sides of male and female work, right?
Yeah.
Women can train their male work.
Men can train their female work.
Yeah, no, it's a support system.
You create a support system.
It don't matter if you zero points or no points.
It's like, hey, babe, we won.
Okay, so what if you have that sideline and you lose?
Oh, yeah, it's up.
She about to go rock with Gil and them.
She gonna be at they party in they line like,
hey, hey, hey, them losers over there.
I mean, has a player ever been on record like,
man, I don't care, like...
No, we're not allowed to say that.
We're not allowed to say that. But you can feel it in the energy. You can see it on the... You can see, like, he don't care. No, we're not allowed to say that. We're not allowed to say that.
But you can feel it in the energy.
You can see it.
You can see.
Yeah, you can see it.
You don't give a fuck.
Who would play the ball?
Who would play the ball?
I learned that, too, like quick turnaround.
Yeah, you got to take that.
It all depends on how you...
Some losses hurt more than others, right?
So depending on how you lost if it was a game you were supposed to win and you lost
Is it a game that you came back?
Right and then you lost at the end like you got your hope up
Yeah
And then lost or is it a game from the beginning like the Blazers, right?
You got you lost by 60 trust me didn't they didn't think about the loss because you from the beginning to the end
It was already in your brain that you lost this game. So there was really no thought process on that
NBA don't take it as hard because
Because we play the next day sometimes right so depending on how many days we got between games, right?
So like a coach like this, right?
You play on a Saturday. You don't play again to a Thursday. Yeah, you got to eat that right if I played
Saturday and I got a game Sunday
No, because if I'm thinking about what happened Saturday, then I'm fucking up Sunday
So we got to let that shit go keep moving
But have you ever been like second night of a back-to-back, and then during that second game, you're still thinking about,
damn, I should have, I did something in that first game to get the dub?
Like missing a shot or reviewing something, like,
damn, I should have made that pass,
or like a defense assignment I fucked up on, right?
Yeah, you know, it'll linger, it'll linger,
but the next day, you got a whole nother,
you got a whole nother player you got to guard.
You know what I mean?
So you sitting there thinking about that last guard and you got this man coming in there.
Choo.
That was the difference between college and pro for me.
My adjustment was we had all that time to sit on losses.
And that what drove me to want to win more because I'm like, I could correct myself in those losses and find out why we lost.
Right.
I need to do more of this. da-da-da-da.
But in the league, once I got there, it's like, hey, look, young'un, keep your head up, man.
Because I'll be down there like, what the fuck, man?
We getting blown out.
They like, hey, man, hey.
Yeah, like in pros, like, you could look at people's records and be like, oh, this is an upset, this is an upset.
But at the end of the day, when you get to a certain level it can be anybody's night Yeah, it was off night
But in college like you've got that number next to your name you supposed to win
So for me like even in college the games that we've lost I hurt the most was like almost
Beating a team that we weren't supposed to be yeah
Cuz like in college like that's it's very clear who's supposed to win certain games
So I was in like a few of those games like my freshman year
Yukon came in
and like we was with them
for a little bit
and then UConn started UConning.
Yeah.
So.
She cold.
We've all had devastating losses
in our career
and stuff we still think about
to this day.
Lexi, what's a loss
that still haunts you
to this day?
A loss that still haunts me?
Oh,
ACC Championship,
my first season at Duke,
we lost to Notre Dame.
And our coach made us re-watch
the entire game
when we got back
from beginning to end
and she said nothing.
We just sat and watched it.
It was like such a winnable game.
I didn't play great.
I could have played better. I had been playing really well all weekend. So like to come to the
championship and like not play as well as I had been playing the rest of the weekend like hurt.
And that would have been Duke's first ACC championship in a minute. So that one hurt.
Sean, what's a loss that still haunts you to this day? Duke at Duke. I never beat Duke at Duke.
So all of our games were close.
And one of them was with tie game, I believe.
We were running our special play,
which was for me to come off for a three.
And JJ knew the fucking play.
He jumped the play, cheated it,
and it forced us to go another way.
And Raymond ended up throwing it forced us to go another way.
And Raymond ended up throwing it to bum-ass David Noel.
And he fucking dribbled that bitch out of bounds.
And me and Ray just sit there and just looked at each other,
and they had a camera on us, and it was just like,
we ain't never going to beat these motherfuckers.
It was the worst feeling because we didn't get to play back there again. So Duke at Duke has always been haunting me.
And producer said no David Noel slander on the Lord's Tuesday.
You mean the guy, the Carolina fan that's back there?
Just no David Noel slander on the Lord's Tuesday.
Gil, what's a loss that still haunts you to this day?
Game six, Cleveland, right?
The game to tie it 3-3, right?
It was, I hit, so I hit the shot.
It was like three seconds left.
I hit the shot to take us to overtime, right?
And missed those two free, we were up one, got fouled, missed the two free throws. We were up one, got fouled, missed the two free throws.
They came down and hit the shot to end the series.
And then you got to sit on that one.
That's the one you have to sit on.
And, I mean, I had 36 and 11 that game.
So, I mean, I was playing very well and just blanked out at the free throw line.
Does LeBron still bring that up? Nah, I just nick. very well and just blinked out at the free throw line.
Does LeBron still bring that up? Nah, I just nick.
Just nick.
And I think those series I was playing like 40,
49 minutes a game.
I think the game before that I played 53 minutes,
that game I played 52 minutes.
Damn.
Shit.
Yeah, so.
So speaking of losing, Kyle Kuzma, Flint, Michigan native, had some smoke with the Pistons
a few weeks ago when they were in the midst of their losing streak when he tweeted the
following.
They were getting smacked, or no, they were beating the Celtics, but he said at this point,
it's like, don't be that team.
He was talking about the Celtics being the team to break the streak, to break the streak. So I just went on to win. Kuz had a pop meat
kettle moment on Monday when the Pistons handed the Wizards and L to get their
fourth win of the season. Was that tweet more disrespectful to the Pistons or his
Wizards teammates? Hmm. So now they're that team?
No, the Spurs.
Who did they beat?
Who did Detroit beat?
What game was that when they got their win?
Raptors.
Oh, yeah.
No, the Raptors were that team.
I was after the OG trade.
Then the Wizards were the next team.
So at least they weren't the team, but they are a team.
Yeah.
Three games separating.
Three wins separating.
Well, yeah, it was weird that he had tweeted that in the first place because they weren't
very far off record wise.
But then I saw how closely they played the Pistons.
I was like, oh, this is going to age terribly.
And it did.
They're just not good.
They're not a very good team to even be saying anything.
You should have the tweet and the keyboard away from all of y'all on that team.
The whole team shouldn't be saying anything.
Y'all shouldn't even be speaking to your parents and shit.
Y'all should just go straight to your rooms, nigga.
Go straight to your room, put your head down.
Y'all need some rejuvenation out there.
Need some Gilbert Arenas out there.
You ought to go back and talk to them.
You ought to go back and talk to them.
What you doing, man?
I mean, the context is, the context ain't the same. I mean, he was talking about that streak.
You don't want to be that team that give up the streak.
But understand, so.
So he wasn't wrong.
So it doesn't age.
The age has them do it because it was a streak that was going on 28, 29, 30.
It was historic.
So you didn't want to be the team that actually gave up the loss.
Once the loss was gotten, you didn't want to be the team that actually gave up the loss once the loss was gotten
It don't matter that but if you're on a team that could be
Like there's probably like what three teams that were like, okay the Pistons might win this game, right?
But you want to be that team though, that's what you want to be the cool don't be that But you didn't want to be that team, though. That's what I said. You don't want to be that. But cool, don't be that guy.
Don't be that guy that's saying that you can't be that guy.
How many bookmarks did that tweet have?
Because I know it had a lot.
Because they was waiting for this. I know, but it's still, it doesn't.
Hey, niggas, stop bookmarking.
Just remember.
Just remember.
We need a bookmark so we have all of them are in one place.
But do y'all go through your bookmarks weekly like, oh, okay, I still can't pack them up for this one.
Let me see.
Okay, no, not yet, not yet.
Oh, boom.
There you go.
Let me find that one.
I knew I saved it.
It aged well, didn't it?
I just DM'd myself.
That's how I remember it.
Just like if there's a streak, right?
Somebody's on a 20-game streak.
You want to be the team that ends it.
Yeah.
That's just things.
Because it was a streak, you just didn't want to be...
I think people were just like,
what are you saying?
Because they were...
1,100 bookmarks
on the Twitter.
We bad, too,
but we not 28 in a row bad.
We're not as bad as y'all.
We got the same record,
but not in a row, though.
We both got four wins,
but not 28 losses in a row.
Let's talk about
a little nostalgia now,
keeping it Michigan-centric.
More than 30 years after they took the basketball world by storm
with baggy shorts and black socks,
the Fab Five crew reunited at Michigan for the first time
since they were players.
Really?
It was some situation.
NIL visionaries, they got caught up.
Some were getting bigger bags than others before it was fashionable.
I mean, I'm pretty sure I know who was getting bigger bags.
Best player.
Everybody can't get this bag here.
Was C-Web sharing or was he hoarding the bread, showing up with his bottle?
A Grey Goose giving them the bottle to pop off?
Or was he sharing?
I don't know, Gil.
Juwan got 100 mil.
No, I'm talking about college.
I'm talking about Juwan. Came out for 100 mil. No, I'm talking about college. I'm talking about...
Juwan came out for the bullets.
No, what I'm saying is...
No, when they were in school, right?
Yeah, I'm talking about school.
No, I'm saying it was Webb, Juwan,
were, like, the best players.
Them two.
And Rose, I think.
Rose was good, but you're saying, like,
the best player got the bag.
No, when they were in college, who was getting that bag?
Chris was getting that bag.
NIL visionary Chris Webber.
Mm-hmm. And they was mad because Chris was getting that bag Chris was getting them in IL visionary Chris Webber
And they was mad cuz Chris was getting that bad
No, no, I don't think I think their problems came from
The I guess it was deflecting I
Think I'm out cuz I know this was this problem happened after I think their friendship broke up after this Because like people were telling on each other and stuff like that And I think Chris Webber like just watch his hands of it all all right cuz he was the only one really good
I mean but at the end of the day five five Alex I mean I watch the documentary. Okay, so
Don't you yourself. You could culture yourself
So much money so for the old niggas on the couch you would have really appreciated them in their heyday
We were doing a lot of things they were doing the black socks of baggy shorts
But is the fab five the most influential college basketball team ever?
be
Yeah
Maggie shorts black Yeah. Baggy shorts, black socks.
You know who else was an influencer?
UNLV.
Oh, UNLV.
Oh, nigga.
Larry the legend.
The Duke team when everyone had the haircut
and they called it the Duke starting five haircut.
No.
The box?
That's only some Duke shit.
No, it was a thing.
We weren't really.
No, it was recent. This is like about Christian? We weren't really... No, it was recent.
This is like more recent.
Oh, the no tape?
Yeah.
Everybody started having the fucking same haircut.
Not cutting their joint?
That's more recent.
Not as iconic, but...
That's a Duke thing, though.
You think the Runny Rebel...
No, it was the everybody thing.
Runny Rebel Squad more influential than the Fab Five?
Oh, yeah.
I can't say influential, but just, like, impact.
Like, the impact for it was different.
Like, Larry Johnson, Stacey Augman,
Greg Anthony, bro,
they was doing shit there.
We was like, yo,
they some bad ones.
I think in hindsight, the Michigan team,
when it was going on,
everyone was, like, very much not supporting it, very against it.
What are they doing?
Oh, no, in the streets, in the community.
Oh, yeah.
With the baggy shorts, with the black socks.
Oh, my God.
In hindsight, you're like, this could have been so much bigger.
But they were freshmen, though.
That's what makes it so impressive.
It was hip-hop.
They were like college hip-hop
So look everybody wanted to like I remember we was um, cuz you know back a you a you not a you but Park League
and all that stuff
They used college name. Yeah, everybody wanted to be
Fortune situations, but I feel like maybe if they won
a championship,
it would have been
a little different.
I know they got there.
Yeah,
against North Carolina too,
but it was more like
how Jalen voiced
how much he hated
Grant Hill and Duke.
That whole squad?
Yeah,
he just,
like he was the hood
get up over there.
I thought he was a bitch.
That's what made Jalen
such a like
prominent personality because he's still the same guy like, I don't give a bitch. I thought he was a bitch. That's what made Jalen such a prominent personality
because he's still the same guy.
I don't give a fuck about them.
The Black Nikes.
I love that.
4D Star Day.
Yeah, the yellow.
Yeah, 4D Star.
With the Black Nikes, we were on it.
But no, I'm curious if we could have a much larger debate
because those running Rebel Squad, Larry John, Stacey Augman,
Greg Anthony, that whole crew.
Stacey was a gangbanger, boy. And what they were getting off in vegas at that time you know it's
like the mobbed in them they were saying you know i'm just saying you know rolling the spots where
you dug black people weren't usually allowed but it was getting a bag imagine what larry was getting
well he was like national player of the year i believe i can't remember So what's the next reunion that you want to see?
I gave you some options. Reunion?
Pippen and MJ.
No, just, you know.
Pippen and MJ.
Stop.
They got it so quick, Gil.
I want to shoot.
What's the football player who got in trouble for the NIL
stuff?
Maurice Couette?
Reggie Bush?
I want him to go back to school, and I want them to like. They've started to embrace him. I want him to get off his knees. Reggie Bush, an NIL stuff. Maurice Claret? No. Reggie Bush? I want him to go back to school and I want them to like...
They've started to embrace him. I want him to get
off his knees. Reggie Bush, an NIL visionary.
Yeah, like I want him to get off his knees. Check that man's Heisman.
I don't...
Nah. You said the first name.
Claret.
Maurice Claret? Maurice Claret.
Ohio State. Because
like
the NFL did him wrong.
The reason is they granted that he can come out of college, right?
So he comes out of college, gets an agent, and then they reverse it
and then say you're ineligible because you have an agent.
But he's only ineligible because you granted him first.
Wait, was he young?
Yeah, he was a sophomore,
and then they granted that he should be able to go into the NFL.
So once they granted him, he gets an agent, of course.
And then they reversed it and then penalized him for getting an agent.
That happened to two.
It was him and Mike Williams.
So Mike Williams had to sit.
So that derailed his career.
If y'all fucked up, y'all shouldn't penalize him Ah, from USC. So Mike Williams had to sit. Yeah. Yeah. So that derailed his career.
Like, if y'all fucked up, y'all shouldn't penalize him and say he's academic and eligible
because he took money.
He only took money because y'all made him eligible.
Yeah.
You know, I think that that should have been, that's history that should have been changed.
Maurice Claret, you know, had a lot of us getting our goose on.
He was that good.
Nah, he was that good.
The fact that he, yeah, that he even took it all the way to court.
Like, that was like one of those stories that as just an athlete or a human being
that there should have been some uproar on because y'all really took this man's career from him
on something y'all decided was, yes, you can go to the pros.
Yay!
Two weeks later, no. Okay, cool, I'll go to the pros. Yay! Two weeks later, no!
Okay, cool, I'll go back to school. Nah, you got an agent.
Bullshit. Yeah, that's crazy. You can't even repay him back for that.
That's lost time. That's like doing time in a pen and can't get that time back.
And then he gets in trouble. But y'all don't, like,
y'all took this, this is the downfall that happening y'all gonna pretend that this was his fault
Y'all don't know what mentally was going through. He's like this is
No, when you go pro like your home mental is different and then you for you to take it away
Like there's it's hard to recover from that. Well, we got a special guest. Let's come to the arena on his day off, Mr. B. I'm working.
He's working.
Hey.
He got some.
Presents.
Oh, yes.
I'm back here working.
Good morning. Hey, man.
Woo-hoo.
They said they got you on tape stealing boxes.
Stealing boxes.
Gills Arena, man.
Hostile territory. And we got a chat request on the re-night. Of?
Me going McCants.
Security!
I want nothing to do with this.
I didn't hear the whole thing.
Me going McCants.
A reunion.
A reunion.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm nothing to do with this. I didn't hear the whole thing.
A reunion.
A reunion. Oh, okay.
I'm with that.
We got some other
correction we need to make in regard to the
first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Who else came in?
So we had Cam. I think the higher lower is like 18.5.
Cam's actual higher lower
is 10.5. There higher lower is 10.5.
There we go.
That sounds better.
10.5.
Much more.
You know, much more.
They fucking up in the front.
They fucking up in the back.
So, Nick in.
Everybody hit that.
So, Swaggy P, his higher lower, 18.5 middies.
So, Nick BD in this?
There's a lot of motherfuckers showing up, man.
Look.
Damn.
Okay.
Man, they're going to have to bunk the prize money up, man.
We're going to need about 200.
200. 101,000. going to have to bump the prize money up, man. We're going to need about 200. 200. 100 and points, though.
I don't even matter.
I'm going to start training for 200 now.
I'm going to start getting the gym for real.
200.
100 don't move you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Damn.
You got money like that?
Yeah.
So Embiid put in work on MLK Day, dropping a 41 piece on the Rockets.
17 straight 30-point game, the Sixers record. And while the reigning MVP would
love to repeat, he said he's not tripping if he doesn't play enough games this season to meet the
65-game minimum, saying, quote, I've already done it. If I have a chance to get a second one, I'll
do it. I'm not going to force myself or push it. My game is always going to speak for itself.
We're winning. That's the main thing. We got to keep winning. And you put in the stats to be in the MVP conversation.
That's great too, but at the end of the day
if there's something going on and I can't meet
the requirement for the amount of games
played to qualify for that, then
so be it. So Embiid can only miss
eight out of the next 44 games
to still remain eligible.
So Embiid's saying he's not going to push for
a second straight MVP. Facts
or cap?
Cap.
The reason is cap.
I mean, because it's your MVP if you get the 65 games, right?
So, because this is your award and because you've complained about this award before,
there's no fucking way that you're gonna just give it up to someone
because you didn't make the 65 game quota and it's your ward all you do is
just got to make it the city didn't stop mm-hmm I mean he complained that he won
he got it so I'm guarantee at this point he's guaranteed I mean I say it's fact
out of but he said it I don't think he. He said it. I don't think he's going to make it now.
I don't.
And I think that that MVP is important to him,
but because of how everything went down last season,
I don't think it's as valuable to him
because of how he won it last year.
Like, now he got it, whatever.
Last year was not...
He shouldn't have won that.
We all know that.
So you think...
But that's what I'm saying.
But he's like,
it don't matter how well you play
because the people
are going to put in,
give the MVP
to who they want to give it to.
So I feel him on that.
I hope he plays all 65 games
because they're winning,
they're playing well,
he's playing great.
But if he doesn't have
to play 65
and that means that he's going
to play better in the playoffs,
then cool.
I think the Sixers
will be okay with that.
Mr. McCants. Cap. Cap? Big cap. Big cap. Big cap. I mean just to piggyback on what Gil says,
you complained about it, right? You finally got it. It's just like being a
boxer and you become a champ and you beat someone who was the champ.
Now you're the champ.
You're either going to be the paper champ or you're going to be the real champ and defend
your championship.
So now you're the reigning MVP.
So as the reigning MVP, you need to show everybody why you got the MVP in the first place.
So if anything is coming in front of that, Gotta be team chemistry really what the goal is and understanding that we got to keep winning if I can keep my numbers up
This way so for him I get it. He's saying winning is most important
Blah say blah but being the best player on the best team is most important as well because that's solidifies you not only in history
But with the respect of your peers, knowing that you went after not just
the MVP, but the respect.
But I think now, like a lot of these players are saying
things like this,
so the media no longer has
the control. So if MB
comes out and says, man, I'm working so hard
to get this MVP, then that gives him, oh,
now we can
go this way with it. But when he says
things like, I just care about winning, I don't care about the MVP,
like, the media don't got nothing to say now.
But that's why I said, that's why I call it cap,
because you say, like,
when has somebody ever sounded actually selfish in the media?
Right, yeah.
We don't.
Okay, so, yeah, I get that.
Both teams play hard.
I just want to win.
I agree that there's a high chance he misses eight, nine games.
That's why he got to miss nine.
Okay, let's put you in it.
You're leading the league in scoring.
It's not even close.
No matter what this person does as an executive, they cannot catch you.
All you have to do is make the requirements.
That means you can just sub in the game every game
zero, zero, and still
win this award.
If you don't, they get it.
You're not going to just
give it up on something you've
all year you earned it.
He's like a
point in front of Luca.
But what I'm saying is it's not even close
for him from from second place.
So there's not like a minimum minutes logged in the game.
You just have to be dressed.
So if he's 62, 63, gay, he's a couple games short and he hurt.
If he's a couple games short and I'm like, all right.
I'm throwing my shirt.
I don't think his criteria is points and stuff.
I think it's actual performance.
His performances show us he's the most dominant, he's patient, he's poised, all of those things. I don't think it's actual performance. His performances show us he's the most dominant,
he's patient, he's poised, all of those things.
I don't think it's the numbers.
So I think if he sees to himself, like,
if I just keep this up as far as performance-wise,
I'm not worried about it. But I think it's Nick Nurse trying to see exactly
what is it has been stopping Joel Embiid from being this guy
we need in the postseason.
We need to limit more of his minutes down the stretch.
We need to give him more rest throughout the season.
So they're going to mitigate that with the 65 games.
So he's saying if the coach thinks that I need more rest and 65 games is going to be that threshold for me,
I'm cool with it.
I'm cool with it.
So we don't have a unanimous decision, but we have a majority decision.
What do you got to say?
Because remember, 65 games, like, if you're the best player in the league right now and you don't make 65
games, he don't win
the MVP,
not first, all first
team, so he don't win none of the
awards that he actually earned.
Yes. Right. You know what I mean? It's not like
he's chasing it. He finally got
to where everyone knows
I should have been at and you not go. Yeah, I'm first team cuz last year they put me on second
No, no last year from your first thing cuz I won a war I won MVP. Yeah, so first team and
MVP and
Possibly scoring title so I can win both those three awards and if I don't get 65 games I get none of it
man I'm going to win both those three awards, and if I don't get 65 games, I get none of it. Man.
And that's putting you in a conversation with Jordan and them.
Because this is probably what?
This will probably be one of the best seasons for a long time
where you win scoring title, MVP.
Yeah.
Well, Jordan, that's the Jordan shit.
Jordan was like, was it not the last year?
That sounds good.
So we have a, not unanimous, but majority decision.
When it comes to Embiid saying he's not going to push for his second straight MVP.
Stop the cap.
Cap wins.
All right, let's keep this moving.
Embiid was also asked about the narrative that he tends to duck smoke during the regular season.
It gained steam last March when he skipped a game against Joker in the Nuggets.
Embiid was asked about it on Monday, had this to say.
I saw it, but I can't control if I get sick.
Can't control if my knee is going to swell up.
Went on to say, as long as I'm ready to be dominant
when it gets to that time in April,
that's all I care about.
So this season Embiid has missed games against the Wolves,
Celtics, and Kings, but plans to play against
Joker in the second game of a back-to-back
tonight. Wolves, Wolves, Celtics, Kings, but plans to play against Joker in the second game of a back-to-back tonight. Wolves.
Wolves. Celtics.
Kings. Good team. Rest.
Rest games.
For him, personally, I mean,
there's only one person that
we want to see him against, and that is
Joker. I mean, everybody
else is not even in the same atmosphere.
Bucks? No.
Lopez? Ooh.
Anthonyis potentially.
And who? I'm just talking about
his position when we're talking about ducking smoke.
Your ducking smoke versus
the person. It's the person. Yeah, for sure.
You know, so that's the only. Specific matchup.
But it's history, though. I mean, it ain't like
we didn't see him
duck the smoke before.
But he did get dunked for like 40-some minutes.
But Deion called him out on it when Deion went to the little,
what was it, preseason?
They were in Denver.
He was like, hey, man, don't be dunking no smoke.
The Joker came out to get you, man.
You need to come out and get him.
What you doing?
That's what I want to hear.
I want to hear, hey, hey, man whatever that voice you gonna use bro, just
Just whatever voice you use bro
Just you be out there when Joker out there cuz that's the one we want to see full go
So the Sixers are three and seven without him beat this season. So I got a question
Hold on. That's what I've been saying for the last seven months, right? Stop ducking this smoke
Just going upstairs getting people what they want to see.
I've already smoked you, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
Stop ducking and smoking.
I've already smoked you.
I don't need to smoke the same pack twice in a row.
Hold on.
If Embiid smoked Joker the first time, where's the get back?
You just said it.
Embiid ducking and smoking, but he scored 50-something on him.
So get the get back.
But he lost the game.
Ooh.
But he skipped. I'm saying let's just go on upstairs and get the people what they want But he lost the game. But he skipped.
I'm saying let's just go on upstairs and give the people what they
want to see. Let's give them a preview.
Let's just give them a preview real quick.
20 shots, both me and you. If they want a preview,
y'all go to YouTube.
Y'all look up the shootout.
And I hit him 10-1. Y'all can get
a preview. You can see my form.
You can see everything.
How do we get back to y' everything. We talk about yoga shit.
This is going to go on until Saturday.
I'm just saying.
He's telling MB not to duck the smoke.
I'm telling him not to duck the smoke.
This will go on until Saturday, and then it will go on the entire next week.
I'm hoping the following week after that.
But periodically throughout the rest of the spring and summer,
somehow it will come back up until we have the second week.
Friday after next.
I can't help it.
I look better than you do.
So question for the crew.
No, you don't.
And B will lead the Sixers.
It was cold that night.
And B will lead the Sixers
to their first
Eastern Conference Finals
since 2001.
Facts or cap?
Cap, man.
Second round, man.
It depends on who they play.
If they go... It really depends on who they play. If they go...
It really depends on who they play.
If they do, you know, they get the Cavs or something,
then the second round they get, like, the Knicks or something,
then yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Other than that, they get any...
You see in Boston or Milwaukee,
second round, they out.
What if they hit Miami?
Think they'll get by Miami?
Because Miami always play different in the playoffs.
And Jimmy Butler is going to be very well rested, so.
But if he's dominant as he's supposed to be,
I think it'll be a cakewalk, but I don't trust him.
You think the Sixers is going to be a cakewalk
for beating Miami?
If he shows up the way he's supposed to.
Who?
Joel.
The problem is, with Joel in the pro season,
he shows up, and the problem sometimes is,
I don't think he sacrifices enough in the postseason, he shows up. And the problem sometimes is I don't think he sacrifices enough
in the postseason.
He does just good enough
for him to look good.
Yeah, yeah.
Not everybody.
In the playoffs,
it's a little different.
That's it.
Especially in a series.
I think that's our biggest
critique of him.
We see that.
As a player, we're like,
come on, man.
Like, the regular season's over.
The awards are done.
Like, fuck all that.
Win. Yes. It's a team. Figure out. Figure out how to get. The awards are done. Fuck all that. Win.
Yes.
It's a team.
Figure out.
Figure out how to get the win.
This is a real story.
We're playing the Bulls in the playoffs.
First round.
Regular season, I averaged 33 against them.
So you already know.
About to get them business, right?
Struggling first two games.
Scottie Pippen tells our strength coach, Drew, if he wants to beat them,
he has to delegate his responsibility.
They're loading up only for him.
Absolutely.
To win this series, he can't be a scorer.
He has to be a passer first.
Right?
They're loading up.
He's not going to be able to score in this series.
If he's trying to score, they're going to lose.
Who was the coach of Chicago then?
Scott Skiles.
Oh, so he already knew how to look.
Right?
So I'm like, hell nah.
So I'm looking at the film and sure enough, they leaving everybody else open.
Pass.
You didn't notice that during the game?
Hell nah.
Tunnel vision.
Tunnel vision.
Oh, baby, you.
Y'all folk can't beat me.
It's the same.'s like you didn't
notice that the entire team was looking at you no they was doing that the first three games we
played them in the end regular season yay 35 man and then i had to look at that film like really
look at that film and and think about what he was saying and was like, yo, for us to get out of this series, this is team, not me.
We're going to make the other guys beat us.
Gilbert is not going to beat us.
And had to use the other guys for real.
For real.
So, Gil, in terms of Embiid leading the Sixers to their first intercommerce final since 2001, you say cap unless they don't have to see the Bucs or Celtics.
I mean, Bucs, Celtics, or Miami.
So, Caps. We'll give it to Caps.
So, all the good teams.
No, I mean, for how good they're supposed to be,
unless Embiid changes his game for those series.
Like, if he's going to beat Boston,
if he's going to beat Boston in the playoffs,
he has to be, like, at 25 and something. He's going to have to pass because playoffs, he has to be like at 25 and something.
He's going to have to pass because they have to keep up with their shooting.
Yeah, yeah.
But I don't think it's relegated to him keeping all the pressure on him.
I think Tobias has to step up and Maxie has to step up.
He has to be able to sit there and do this.
Because he gets bullheaded sometimes.
Yes.
And he's like, oh, no, they can't guard me.
Think about it.
I got Al Horford on me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All day. Right? And he's going to try to sit, they can't guard me. Think about it. I got Al Horford on me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All day.
Right? And he's going to try to sit there and spend
his time trying to fuck with Al Horford
and everybody else dies. And that's
what he doesn't understand sometimes in playoffs.
And when you say if they play big where Al
knows, I'm going to guard him. Prazingis, you play
weak side. So we really have
a soft double team on him every time he tries
to do his work. So now it's like
Tobias, you can't just let Prazingis load
up like this. You gotta be the
guy. And you gotta
be a willing passenger, Will, where
this is happening. Melton has
to hit shots. Oubre has to hit shots.
These are the... Oubre,
Milton, and Maxie are gonna have to really
play out of their mind.
And I don't know if they're ready yet. That's why James Harden
gave them that business. Because they
wasn't ready for something like that. We ain't
playing for that. We play for when Embiid get hit.
So, Lexi.
Lexi, facts or
cap, Embiid will lead the Sixers to their first
Eastern Conference Finals since 2001.
Cap, probably.
Fair.
Unfortunately. Unless he does have an epiphany and he's like,
okay, we can stop averaging 35 and figure out
how to win this series.
Sometimes you just got to get out of the series, man.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You know what I mean?
Just get out of the series.
This series is different from this series.
Right, because he could start the playoffs
hooping with his scoring average,
and then the next series he's going to have to adjust. So it's about him being able to make those adjustments in real time
And you said it about Dwight Howard when he was with the Lakers for that one series against Denver
Yeah, like we just need you for this series bro, because he's the problem
Once we get out of this series, you might not play as much because we don't really need you. We just need you no more. We just need you for this. Your work is done.
You get a ring.
You get to live on forever with the hardest
championship in NBA history.
For stopping Joker in the bubble.
No take backs.
Rashad, NB will lead the Sixers to their
first Eastern Conference Finals in 2001.
Facts or cap?
Cap. Boston Celtics still there, boy.
Okay. Boston Celtics still there. We. Okay. Boston Celtics still there.
We got two Celtics fans on the couch.
We going back to the back.
We going back to the back.
I forgot he was done with my...
Yes.
Back to the back.
They're not doing that bad.
Who?
Miami?
Miami?
They're doing better.
They're not doing better than Boston, but...
Hey, my boys is rolling right now.
So when it comes to Embiid leading the Sixers to their first Easter Conference
finals since 2001...
Stop the cap.
Cap wins majority.
Wait, from us or the chat?
Oh, the chat?
Yeah.
Oh, the chat didn't vote.
It was three years, all three of us.
I always got to click vote.
Chat, 62%.
They agree with you.
Unanimous cap across the board.
Our chat getting smarter.
They listening.
They listening.
Less mean spirited.
They started these 2024s off correctly.
The positive mentality.
You guys all get virtual friendship bracelets from Lexi.
That's your reward.
We're in virtual.
I'll have some at the shootout.
Yeah.
I'll give them away.
I love Applebee's. I. We're in virtual. I'll have some at the shootout. Yeah. So I'll give them away. I love Applebee's.
I'm going straight after this.
Now let's talk about a team
that's in struggle mode like a day at Applebee's.
Even Draymond making his return after 16 games
couldn't stop the Warriors from hitting a new low
as they took an L to an injury-plagued
Grizzly squad on Monday.
When asked about the Warriors' defensive struggles,
Draymond had this to say.
Just got to have pride in yourself as a man,
and I'm not going to let my guy score.
And our closeouts was too soft.
Our rotations were too slow.
So it's just no pride.
And until every guy take pride in themselves
and want to stop the guy in front of them,
we'll suck.
So, on a scale of rare to burnt,
how cooked are the Celtics?
Or how cooked are the Warriors right now?
What color is this one?
Charcoal? That would be...
Charcoal?
That's called KG.
Whoopi Goldberg gums.
It's bad.
Morality.
Back of Forrest Whitaker's neck.
I've never heard them talk about themselves this way.
I think that's like the glaring thing.
Yeah, yeah.
They come into media.
They're not completely pointing fingers,
but it's kind of giving...
He's not doing this. Yes.
He's not doing that.
And I've never heard them talk about themselves this way.
To see Steve come in constantly complaining
about other things that have nothing to do with the team,
and then Clay saying, you know,
he not gonna lose sleep.
That we're getting booed.
That we're getting booed.
That to me was the most glaring thing.
Like, what?
You trying to get up out of here because you know them fans are your fans.
They booing because y'all not performing.
You should be losing sleep because it's affecting y'all record.
And then you got Draymond.
You know, he's been going through his thing, but he's seeing it because he gets to see
it from the outside now.
He got to sit out there and be like, damn, we really look bad.
Then I come back
and we look even worse.
I mean, he's their,
but he's their leader
on defense.
Like, what did he think
was going to happen?
Exactly.
You've been gone
for this long.
And the chemistry's rocky.
Kaminga not happy.
Moody not happy.
Then you got,
what's the other boy,
the white boy,
Paziski.
Yeah.
Like, he coming in
to be the savior.
They looking at him to, like, make a play.
I was looking at it like they...
He walk around like...
No, for real.
He walk around like, I'm the playmaker now.
Like, I'm the one.
Like, Steph pushed him off.
Steph was like, nah, you got it.
Steph told him he got it.
He was like, oh, I got it?
All right, let me go try to make a play.
I'm like, oh, this is...
That needs some help.
It's nasty out there.
One of you, mother.
I mean, are they relying still, obviously,
everything they've done, the dynasty, the four championships,
but are they still kind of living in the past a little bit?
Like, is it still, like, do we deserve some grace
and some runway because of all the stuff that we did,
but they keep getting that runway and they keep...
They the only team that still got their shit
locked in together.
Like, LeBron got rid of that shit, right?
He was like, I'm gonna go over here
and form a whole new team.
So to see that they still stuck with it,
KD moved on, Kyrie moved on, James moved on.
Everybody has moved on from their little sex.
So they keeping that shit together is like... It just, it don't make sense if it ain't working.
I just feel like the time.
That's hard, man.
Listen, I, we get it, but it's hard to really, it's really hard to digest when we just won a championship two years ago.
Facts.
Right?
You know, to tell me that we need to break it up.
We just won.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, 12 months of a season ago, we was the champs.
And you're telling me, like, give it up?
Like, ah.
Mm.
I just feel like the time of, like, winning, like,
three, four, five championships in a row, like.
No, you're those days.
Those are done.
Because I think everyone's too good now.
People are getting better younger, sooner.
So you've got these new teams.
Like last year, I think Minnesota's a great example.
Last year they were like right there.
And the jump they've made from last year to this year is crazy.
They just got a year older.
The proverbial old niggas versus the proverbial old niggas.
But you look at the Warriors,
what they're used to doing
is collecting role players
that have been impactful
throughout the league.
And you got Deshaun Livingston,
Andre Godalas,
the Mo Spades,
all of the guys
that contributed
to those championships,
they don't have those type
of players no more.
So when you look at Chris Paul,
which I always said,
once they got him,
he gonna get hurt.
And what happened?
Chris got hurt again.
So if he was gonna be
the major contributor
to their success this season,
and he not there,
Draymond go down,
Klay not playing good,
then it's just Steph.
Sarich?
Is your guy?
Sarich is your guy? Do you think role players around the league noticed that
they wasn't getting shown enough love and going to the States?
So now people are like, we don't want to go play there.
Because it's a different type of brand of basketball.
I say that all the time.
But it seemed like a spot destination at least a couple years ago
where it was a vet, like, I can go here.
I ain't really got to do much. I gonna get this ring but you know just bring that
winning attitude well they got boogie cousins and they just dropped him like a
bot like a bad habit you know I'm saying they got a couple guys that they put
into the system and it's like oh it's not for me and they move them around and
now it's like well what you got left now you got the DB players you got the guys
who we don't know about you trying to trying to turn this into Miami. And it ain't Miami.
Yeah.
I mean, were they doomed after that whole Draymond Poole situation?
Was that a bigger fracture?
And we've talked about it repeatedly.
Seems like they got over it, but it seems like the lingering stench of
when we go back now in the history books, we watch the doc.
The tip of.
That moment's going to be like, oh, this is what.
So that punch, that punch, that punch slowed Klay down?
It's just a little bit of a black eye on the dynasty.
That's all.
That punch messed up Wiggins' thought process in scoring?
Really?
Maybe.
They all looking like, am I going to be next?
Am I going to be next?
They might have PTSD.
Are you going to hit me next?
He's going to hit Chauncey's house with Odo.
I can expect pools played, but the other two, they had nothing to do with it.
So that just, Steve Curry stopped you from learning how to put your rotations in?
Really?
Okay.
PTSD.
So what do you think it is?
Oh, shit, Draymond.
Let me, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
I didn't do it.
I didn't do it.
Yes.
Exactly how they're walking around.
He don't get it.
He don't get it.
They all walking
around on pins and needles like, is he going to hit me?
Motherfuckers got complacent.
They thought they were better than what they really were.
Everybody else is starting to get better
and it's just affecting them.
It didn't affect Curry.
Because he kept getting better.
He did a whole
city-to-city tour
of his camp.
City-to-city tour. Damn camp. City-to-city tour. And damn,
he looks perfectly fine out there.
Real shit. No excuses.
Shout out to him.
Hey, one person know he ain't getting hit.
Mm-hmm.
He can go to sleep good,
huh? Real shit.
Shit. Come on, bandits.
Mm-mm.
Let's pray for the Warriors real quick.
Everybody bow our heads.
God help us.
Don't let them go out like this.
I forgot Wiggins was even on the team, bro.
I hate it.
I forgot he was even on the team.
I mean, when I think about it, when I think back when they was winning,
I'm like, okay, well, this is going to end at some point.
But I never really thought about it.
Gracefully, though.
Yeah, like I thought they...
I mean, but how do you gracefully?
But it was nice to see them get packed up by the Lakers last
season. That was definitely. Like, how do you gracefully
end that? A beautiful moment. Like, the guys just have to leave
on their own
terms. You always want to ride
on the sunset that last championship
parade, but unfortunately, LeBron James
and Los Angeles Lakers are still in the Western Conference
and they have vengeance on their mind.
Just like they did last year.
I mean, the real problem is the guys that they will be holding it down today
never developed, right?
They never got like, Wiggins is what, 28?
28, 29?
Yeah, you think that they would pass the torch,
and it wouldn't be like dynasty to next dynasty.
It would be like dynasty to these guys are going to build together.
We could get back to that.
Right now, there's like no future in sight.
That's what I'm saying.
Wiggins right now is supposed to be the second option guaranteed.
Yes.
Right?
Because this is his time.
Clay slowed down.
This is when he steps into that role
and became a dominant force.
Yep.
Same thing with Moody.
Like, how long have you been there
to realize that you have to now step there?
Like, there's no three, four.
Like, this is,
you are a veteran now that should be dominating.
Kaminga, like, this is your third year?
This is when,
like these are the guys that
Steph should be using more.
Right? You know, what's
today him averaging about? He should be averaging about
22 to 25 right now.
Wiggins? Wiggins.
Right, if Wiggins is averaging 25 to 23,
Kaminga guaranteed 18,
we wouldn't be paying attention to Klay
because Klay moved to the side.
Now he's more of a specialty shooter.
But their offense is geared around Steph averaging 30
more than it is Kaminga and Wiggins
and the utility guys picking up their production.
Because if you think about their offense, it's all three-point shooting.
Ain't no mid-range post-ups.
Ain't no slashing across the lane.
Wiggins and Kaminga are slashers.
They're not shooters.
He was a slasher mid-range.
He's a shooter, sniper, easy money.
Easy money.
He ain't shooting 10 threes a game.
But he fit into their mantra of the two splash brothers
and then adding another shooter slasher.
Kaminga not a shooter like that.
Neither is Wiggins.
So they need what, like a shooter slasher?
Well, they need a different offense
where they can actually implement slashing.
It is slashing.
No, it's not.
They just don't slash.
They freestyling.
They do a lot of standing and watching.
They're freestyling.
They're standing and watching.
Think about Golden State with Bob Barbosa and
Livingston and
That was all different offense though, they not running the same office right they just using their strength
We're gonna post up we're gonna do this and I think just people get so
like coming if coming a drove
Who who's at the rim, what you do?
Nobody, because everybody's sitting on the,
Wiggins, if you take, pump fake and take your man off the dribble and go,
who's there?
No one, because you got, this is the easy,
because you have Steph and Klay, it's easier to get to the basket.
You guys are the most athletic two on the team,
and you guys get no free throws. The fact that you get
no free throws changes the game in the fourth quarter, right? Because Klay's not
gonna get fouled, Curry's not gonna get fouled, so the only people who's gonna
get into the penalty is you two. So the fact that you guys are gonna sit there
and shoot jump shots with your athleticism when we need easy points like
Now you get to hit you get to sit here and do this to curry
I got I got five mo if we in a penalty you can't do that no more
But you're asking Kaminga and Wiggins to become one-on-one players that are slashing out of a pocket situation
These are guys that need to be constantly moving and slashing like
What's the offense?
UCLA cuts and flex cuts.
Flex cut type shit where they can actually move without the ball,
catch the ball, and put the ball up.
Or catching on the run and slashing.
The situation they're being put in is like literally catching the ball
and having to make a move on somebody slash try to
get the rim they not good at that and that's why it's not translating because guys that are meeting
them at the rim they not calling the fouls on them that's why they complaining on the fouls
like we're not getting fouls and you know we're going to the rim but it's like the way y'all doing
it it's not part of your game like you're forcing're forcing it now. I'm going to be real. I think the Warriors'
best option right now, ride
this roster out, get them to at least February
9th to see if they can get
something going.
But there's nothing to get going. You're just a
February 9th.
But just ride it to February 9th.
See where you're at then. It's a bad team because
the guys that they need today
are still pretending that it's three or four four years ago
like and I never understood like
You see how like maxi steps up to the plate right Bane
You know steps up to the plate right, but they're also given that Dylan Brooks
Stepped up to the plate. He became a three-point shooter this year like
You supposed to add value
To your
But is that easier to do when that opportunities in place right Bane's got to step up cuz jaws out for 25 games Dylan Brooks
Stepped up. He's he now goes to a rocket situation
But he's David But my point is this Warrior Squad now has the same guy,
so they're coming back year after year, but they're not understanding now that.
Oh, you can't.
Clay, you're still not here.
Now it's time to.
Oh, you're not smart enough to look at somebody and say, oh, he ain't got it.
Let me go ahead and get those.
Yeah, let me get those.
Let me get those.
I understand that.
Let me get those.
Real shit.
Let me get them.
Oh, he washed. Let me get those. I understand that. Let me get those. Real shit. Let me get them. Oh, he washed.
Let me get those.
I got them.
But guys can't put themselves in the game.
I got your big fella.
Guys can't put themselves in the game, so my point is just look at them.
Be in the game.
Man, I was.
I think that only applies to probably Kaminga because his minutes are low.
Yeah, Kaminga didn't got the Wiggins.
Wiggins.
I was the fourth option in Golden State my first year.
Second option my second year.
I got this.
Got it. Give me them. The way he played that year, they won in first year. Second option my second year. I got this. Got it.
Give me them.
The way he played that year, they won in the playoffs.
He was second.
Last year, he was playing in the playoffs very well.
Second option.
Perfect example.
I'm missing a bunch of time coming back through.
Perfect example is Malik Beasley.
Lakers shooting 34% from three.
Milwaukee now.
Now he's shooting 47% from three.
He's leading the league in threes?
Leading the league in threes, but he stepped up.
Like he's saying, it's like when you get on a team that's contender
and we need you to do this shit for sure.
Now when he comes in the game, they looking for him.
They looking for him.
They like, yo, we know you going to hit.
You open, we know you going to hit.
Pat Connaughton, sit down.
Sit down.
I got this.
That's him saying, hey, give me them.
Pat.
Give me them.
That's what I'm saying.
Who's stopping Wiggins from saying, yo, I need 20 shots a game?
Come on, bro.
Give me them.
You got to look around.
Hey.
I mean, he ain't the second option no more.
So that means I'm the second option.
So I get all his shots.
You go to third option, get my shot.
Send the coin.
Like, Clay not trying to get that up. It don't matter. You don't have to give it up. I'm the second option. So I get all his shots. You go to third option, get my shot. Send the corner.
Clay not trying to get that up.
It don't matter.
You don't have to give it up.
I'm taking it.
There's nothing you can do.
You can't perform no more.
Wait the corner.
If Kurt don't want that to happen, that's what's to stop that.
This ain't no Kurt thing.
You can't tell me to get the rebound and do what I... There was no play that...
Coach Musselman can tell me that I wasn't second option.
What is he going to say?
Gil, run this play.
Cool.
Go down.
I'm going to shoot this motherfucker.
You don't want me in.
Take me out.
Which he tried.
Then losing game.
Put me back in.
Yes, sir.
That didn't work.
You know what I mean?
You have to play the game how you see it as a player.
The coach can't tell you that you're option the game dictates it if you have the game you step into it
Are you right for that position or you're not right? So the fact that you're sitting there still playing like you're the third for option
Yeah is weird. Yeah on on the team that you are clearly the second option
That should be averaging 22, 23.
Yeah.
When KD came, when KD came, who was the third option?
Klay, right?
Klay.
Who was the first option in motherfucking shot attempts?
KD.
Klay.
Oh, Klay.
Really?
Klay was putting that motherfucker up.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
Moving your option doesn't mean, like, taking less shots.
It's just like, I'm gonna beat you all the time.
Remember, he shot, he scored 60 with two first ballot...
What?
11 dribbles, that was that game.
Yeah, I got this, y'all.
Got it. I got this.
For sure.
The third option don't mean you're not good.
You just got the third option.
We're going back to the whole AD thing. You got to take it like keys right here
If you don't the nigga that's gonna take the keys move around and that's
Part of like we said you don't want to give it up. Yeah, you're in that role for so long
You've been so good at it. There is a party that's still like holding on
You got it like but just a little bit like just got to take it a little bit and okay,
you got it. You don't take it at all. I'm still holding on.
Yeah, I'm still holding on.
But you just got to-
Like, you know, I ain't going to let you in the house, but the door's unlocked.
I ain't going to open the door for you, but if you want to walk in-
It's going to be cracked. Just push it open a little bit.
Push it open, but I ain't opening it for you.
So we asked the chat, how cooked are the dubs? 40% said burnt.
35% said well done.
20% said medium rare.
5% said rare.
But this is the thing.
As we've seen in Steph's career, especially with these Warriors,
they're down now.
They're going to pull some moves before the deadline.
I already know what's going to happen.
There's going to be some shit that pisses everybody off,
like the trades the Lakers used to get off.
I don't know, man.
You have a different general manager now.
We don't know what Dunleavy is.
They not answering the phone?
No, but what I'm saying is we don't know who Dunleavy is.
He gonna be the nigga that fire Steve Kerr.
That's who he is.
No, but that's what I'm saying.
That's who he should be.
That's what I'm saying.
We're talking about like Myers, what he did, this is Dunleavy.
Exactly.
We have to first see what he, how aggressive he is, how passive he is.
So we have to see what he's about.
We can't say, oh, this is what warriors used to do.
No, the person who used to do that, he's gone.
So we got about three weeks to find out.
We'll see what Dunleavy's about on the moves he makes.
That's what I'm saying.
So if Dunleavy wants to write his name in the history books of the Golden State Warriors,
he got to start fresh.
You can't use Bob Myers' legacy of having Steve Kerr and the whole thing.
Start fresh.
Get that nigga out of here because he's fucking shit up already for you.
It's already a stain on your motherfucking coffee table.
You got to get him out of here.
We will have three weeks to find out with the trade deadline loom
and see if they can make any moves.
But let's get this thing moving with a little hibachi time.
So with Luka Doncic sidelined for his third straight game with an ankle injury,
Kyrie showed that he could still beat Batman when needed.
So Kyrie put up sound good 42 points seven boards seven dimes and went over
Pelicans and some vintage moves
Vintage Kyrie
This is regular Kyrie
But good all day back down memory lane
42 feet Tim Hardaway Jr. also dropped 41 points in the game This is regular Kyrie. Red, but good all day. Back down memory lane.
42 feet.
Tim Hardaway Jr. also dropped 41 points in the game.
Going 9 for 15.
From 3 and 10 for 10 from the free throw line.
No, Luka, no problem. Four seconds, pull-up, catch!
Yeah, baby!
That's so nice.
I love his game.
That's so nice.
One dribble, two dribble, pull-up.
So easy.
Even all the fancy, crazy stuff he does at the core, his game is so simple.
It's fundamental.
One, two, let's go to it.
Right away.
Go to my spot.
Tim Hardaway Jr. might be one of my favorite shooters
of all time.
I love the way he's got that.
He got that clay type mentality, though.
I'm pulling.
No matter when it is, I'm shooting.
That form is so perfect.
When you got the perfect form,
it don't matter how I shoot it, it's supposed to go in.
If it don't, the wind was off.
This was, like, the wind was off,
what the wind is doing.
Indoors? Yes, indoors indoors cut the AC off, baby
Like clay. I mean Kyrie's last three games, right?
as
Fans you should you should really understand basketball now and look at it from a different standpoint
When when players say these guys are good and then you say cap because you're looking at stats
Look how much he sacrificed for Luka.
Luka's gone.
Look who he really is.
Yep.
Right?
And I don't think, like as players, this is what we know. Right?
So when we say this person's this, this person's this, it's because we are there real time.
So we know how dangerous somebody is.
And we know when someone's delegating
responsibility yep right to fit in so when someone says oh this guy is the best because we know who
he is but he can't be that if luke is already there this is his team so he has to play robin
when he's really a batman too i mean and that's going back to the second option third option
conversation just because you the second option like kairi would be considered the second option, third option conversation. It's because you're the second option, like Kyrie would be considered
the second option on this Dallas game.
But when certain
moments arise, your first option
is out or off, that second
option has to become the first.
Kenya got a lot of criticism, I think,
earlier on in the season for saying
that Kyrie was this guy over
Luka, Mavs fans got in their feelings. But Gil,
to your point, two things. First, we'll just say, Kyrie in his guy over Luka. Mavs fans got in their feelings. But Gil, to your point, two things.
First, we'll just say Kyrie in these last five games,
37.4 points per game, 6.4 rebounds, 6.4 assists.
He also made a little history with him and Tim Hardaway Jr.,
both going for 40 pieces.
First player in the league to score 40-plus points
with three different teammates.
Him and LeBron did it back in 2016.
He did it with Luka last year
and he did it with Tim Hardaway Jr.
obviously on MLK Day.
But just to your point now,
being able to take that backseat,
being a willing Robin,
and this is no knock or discredit to Luka.
Luka, amazing player,
will be in the MVP discussion this season.
I think it's more of a praise for Kyrie
and what he's been able to do with this team
and be like look
This is your show. I'm just coming in to try and help keep this thing going
But when your ass is on vacay, I'm here to go ahead and do it
But that's what said that's that be the problems when we're talking about who's great who's a top 10 player
Who's who's really that guy and then you hear players save their lists and it don't look like the analysts because the analysts are just looking at
Stats and oh, you know, he's only averaging this. Yeah, he's only averaging this because he's giving the ball to this player
Because this is his team. This is his system and he's fitting in
When this guy is injured
Watch what happens here because now he gets to be who he really is and people don't understand that and I think that's why
When the whole Kobe and Shaq thing happened
Kobe wanted to show everyone who he was because
It's like hold on wait wait. I know y'all y'all think that I'm riding his coattail and in my mind
He's riding my coattail because in the last five minutes
He needs me because he can't make free throws remove him and watch what a god looks like and no one
understood that until you remove Shaq and then this motherfucker's out there giving people 81
64 like there we go you know well let's go back to what you said yesterday so when the super teams
right and you talk about these guys alleviating pressure off of themselves because they're on the super teams.
And when you have a super team or a collection of great players, you have to wait for one to get hurt for us to really see that you're still yourself.
You're still Kyrie, right?
And I've always said when you put them on the floor together, it's the Luka show with Kyrie there playing, introducing Luka.
But I wanted to see Kyrie show up to the show as the main event, next to Luka.
How can you do that?
Luka has to now decrease his whole bravado, his game, so that Luka can be there.
So if Kyrie had his own team, right, what would it look like?
Would it look like Boston? The Boston team that
was losing? Would it look like Brooklyn when KD and James was down and they were still
losing? We already seen the show. So it's best being watched now with Luka, but I don't
like the fact that we got to see Kyrie at his best when Luka's down. That's where it's
like, ah, we'll wait till Luka get back
and let's see how full this clip is.
Because if the clip is still full
between those three guys,
we got a chance.
Dallas got a chance.
With no big.
Because you got three guys
really shooting that thing.
It's like they turn into Golden State.
Derek Lively's been hurting.
But it won't be the same clip
because the ball is in his hands now.
That's what I'm saying.
And then when Luka goes, it's back in his hands.
So I should say Luka got to decrease his shit for Kyrie and Tim Hardaway
to collectively get their shit off the way they just did.
And maybe Luka had to see it.
Yes.
Instead of us or people just being like,
if you do this, this is what's going to happen.
But now it's happening.
So maybe now he's like, okay, maybe let me delegate a bit.
The problem is Luca's 23 right now, right?
And this is the beginning of his career.
He's 24.
He'll be 25 in February.
So trying to understand that, the delegate, he's not there yet.
Yeah. that the delegate, he's not there yet. When Dwayne Wade was bringing in LeBron and Bosh,
he's delegating himself and saying,
I'm a, you get it, right?
And LeBron be LeBron and I will fit in, right?
It's easier for Dwayne
because Dwayne already won a championship.
He wants this to work more than anybody else, right?
With Luka, he's not.
He's just getting started.
He's just getting started.
So that's harder.
But he got Jason Kidd.
That's where I'm confused at why Jason can't get them all on one accord.
Where Luka doesn't dominate the ball the way he does.
Because Luka, we got two other guys that can really play just like you.
You don't have to dominate the ball that way.
Because it's different.
Just like with Jokic, right?
The number one option was Murray.
People don't realize.
Murray was the number one option first.
Remember, him and Donovan Mitchell,
50-50, they were doing that in the playoffs.
Right?
Murray gets hurt. When Murray came back Luca was I mean, uh
Yoko's was a whole different animal and he took the back seats like way home because they had to rely on Joker me
Yeah, listen, let's move it through him. Yeah, I can't come back being a number one option
I'll be the number two is better that... You have to be really self-aware
to understand that
the team runs better in someone's
else's hand, and you just have
to play off of them. So Jason Kidd
being the point guard, Luka being the point guard, I would
expect that. Nah, two different people. They're two different
humans. And you're dealing with another point
guard, which is Kyrie. Three point
guards should be having a powwow every game
like, hey guys. They play three completely different ways. But it's still the game Which is Kyrie is this three-point guard should be having a powwow every game like a guy
But it's still the game of basketball now it's still the game of basketball you can have different styles
We still gotta win how how the different that's like me I can coach those two right
Jason King coach Hallen Burton and in law is a passer like that
But Luca is a passer just like them. But first person,
like pass, pass, pass,
then shoot, last option.
That's Jason Kidd's mindset.
Like when he get in the post,
he's thinking pass.
I don't think Luka scores.
I think Luka's taking advantage
of my opportunities
and then relegate.
If I got a little motherfucker on me,
I'm taking him down there.
I'm going to do my thing.
But if I got a guy who can guard me,
who's open?
His assists will go way down
if he ends up delegating
because he isn't a pass first.
He's going to focus more on scoring
if he gets less touches,
which isn't a bad thing.
But you do that to a Halliburton.
He can coach your shit out of a Halliburton
because that's his style.
Halliburton, Alon his style Halliburton Lonzo ball
Mellow ball like those are his that's his style of play but if Kyrie like pushing as just throwing that like
Damn Halliburton average motherfucker 20 assists you had just kid with him because he have here show him here show him things that he ain't
seeing naturally
You know that don that throwing it like,
you have somebody sealed, he'll throw that off
the edge of the backboard,
boom. But you got to have those other
guys there to get that shit, to get the assist.
Luka got those guys that could get
them assists for him. So it's Jason Kidd
put him in position where he can see that shit.
We're going to go more fast break.
If we go fast break, Luka, look for this.
That's going to be open. He got that speed. Look for this. He got that speed to go more fast break. If we go fast break, Luka, look for this. That's going to be open.
He got that speed.
Look for this.
He got that speed to get up the ball.
Like, Luka, like Kyrie, Kyrie got that speed.
If Luka throws the ball at him, he's not getting it back.
Kyrie got that speed, though, right?
But those are, like, when you're talking about pass first versus shooting first,
I have guys on my team that makes it easier for me to score.
See, if I'm a scoring guard, I got the perfect team where you got to play me one-on-one,
pick and roll, throw it over here.
Yeah.
And then I'm passing, oh, shit, my guy opened.
Boom.
Other than that, that's how it looks versus me getting all the way into the lane.
I got a wide open layup.
I'm going to pass it out like, nah.
Nah, no thank you. I'm going to take this out. Like, nah. All right. Nah, no thank you.
I'm going to take this.
It's a little quirky.
Two points.
Yeah.
Let's keep this thing moving.
That would piss me the fuck off
if I'm a coach.
Layup.
You right here, goddammit.
You better go in,
make the easiest.
Like, I hate guys who get it.
Sometimes you really don't realize,
but like some guys
really get in there
and they're like, nope.
They'll be right here.
Nah, because we know
what we're looking for. Tim right there. Tim shoot that're like nope. Yeah, I'm right. We know what we're looking for Tim right there
Tim shoot that bitch at 50% Yeah, I'm here but he there that's three is more than two
I know what if he missed three is 50% He got I got a good chance. Yeah
Let's keep this thing moving
Talk a little bit about Trey young Trey led the Hawks to win over the Spurs and made some history on MLK Day.
Ice Trey dropped 36 points and 13 dimes on the Spurs and in the process surpassed 10,000 points
in his career. Young is now the fastest player in NBA history with 10,000 points, 3,500 assists,
and 1,000 threes, accomplishing the feat in 390 career games. Next closest players are Steph at 513 games, Damian at 553 games,
Baron Davis, Gills Arena
alum at 590 games,
Tim Hardaway Sr. at 605
games, I believe. Or is that Junior?
I don't know. And Kyrie Irving at 611
games.
See, no one's
paying attention to Trey Young.
Like,
nobody realized
the only person that's threatening
Curry's, you know,
when people say,
oh, Curry's record
is never going to be broke.
Y'all crazy.
The guy, there's a guy in the league
that's already in front of it
at the same time frame.
So...
And don't have those restrictions
of ankle injuries and all that stuff.
But see, that's the reason
because Steph started off his career hurt and missing a lot of games where he was full clip.
He's full clip.
Way younger than Steph.
Yeah.
Way younger.
Like, do you see the gains?
Yeah, he gets a few playoff wins.
He gets a little bit deeper.
Yeah, because that helps Steph, too.
The playoffs help Steph a lot.
Yeah.
For sure.
Wait, does the playoffs even count?
Not for regular season. Three points? Oh, yeah. He's going to a lot. Yeah. For sure. Wait, does the playoffs even count? Not for regular season.
Three points?
Oh, yeah.
He's going to catch that.
Sure.
That's the only one.
He shoots more.
He shoots more threes.
He shot more.
Because he came in when Steph already turned the tide of threes or something.
So he's coming in.
That was okay for him to shoot off.
Steph coming in 0-9.
0-9 wasn't what Steph what Steph Curry got trade came in
Shoot six threes a game. Yeah, yeah his Ricky he was doing it in college, Oklahoma
He had already seen about 2014-15 is when the world was like, oh step this Steph Curry thing
Which is well, so Steph, I'll just read you his first couple years in the league 4.8 at three-point attempts 4.8 4.6
4.7 and he went to 7.7, 7.9, 8.1.
Then he had a stretch.
4 to 7?
Yeah.
So basically 5 to close to 8.
Then 11.2, 10, 10, 11.7, 10, 12.7, 11.7, 11.4, 11.4.
So I don't know if Trey will get to that volume.
What is he at right now?
So Trey is shooting anywhere from like eight to nine a game.
Yeah,
that's the only thing.
He's not going to get,
because he gets to the free throw line.
Oh,
he passes the ball.
He actually passes.
So he's averaging 9.2 this year,
which is second most in his career.
Like it's weird because it's,
is he,
I mean,
in a sense,
he's a little bit more complete.
Yes.
Because,
you know, he passes the ball more because just the offense he's in, right?
If Steph was like, if Steph didn't have the pass cut and all that type of offense, it was just him with the ball doing it, he's going to average that too
because he has those type of shooters.
But because Trey gets to the free throw line, that helps his game too.
Yes, a lot.
Right, when he can't get his shit going,
he knows how to get fouled.
And I like that.
Which might hurt him too
because, you know,
getting hit at that size.
I like the fact that
he's smart enough to know
he's doing all this stuff
without a Draymond Green.
Can you imagine if he had a player
that was relegated to get him open?
All the time, even off the ball.
Like last night night he had
the guy on his on the on his on his tail all night wesley yeah on him picking him up 94 feet trying
to tire him out but he had 29 in the first half he had 29 in the first half he doesn't play off
the ball um no not as not as much uh as steph in a sense, I mean, he plays shooting guard too with Baby Boy.
DeJounte.
Yeah.
DeJounte.
DeJounte.
So, you know, because they're both, you know,
they play that, you know, one-two combo guard,
so he doesn't get the back doors and all that.
So let me, let's keep this in mind.
I'm going to give you all a little hypothetical situation,
but let's talk a little bit about Wimby first. Wimby went scoreless in the first half of that game, proceeded to have 26. Right. So let me, let's keep this, I'm gonna give you a little hypothetical situation, but let's talk a little bit about Wimby first.
Wimby went scoreless in the first half of that game,
proceeded to have 26.
Dang.
In the second half.
What, did he get in foul trouble?
In minutes.
You know I wasn't watching,
I was doing Gil's Arena recap.
Okay.
Getting ready for another day of this lovely show
presented by Underdog Fantasy, woo woo.
Woo woo.
So Spurs are reportedly interested in a reunion
with DeJounte Murray
But let's talk about the other Hawks guard ice tray. How good would the win be an ice tray duo?
Be in San Antonio crazy. Yeah, that's sick
They need it. Yeah, the first show and when he's down and doing this everything's throwing it every time
He's throwing it every time. He's throwing it every time. He ain't even know. First of all, once he gets in the lane,
you can just literally throw it up.
Like, I'm surprised that they haven't been that...
I mean, look at what he did with John Collins.
Like, all he did was throw it up.
Like, he's the biggest dude.
I would sit here and just say,
hey, hey, I'm going to just throw this shit at the ceiling,
and then when it come down, just jump, get it.
You got it.
Just put your hand up here.
Drop it in the basket
Was getting that I mean, you know
So the trays already gonna be looking at it like I can get 20 assists on this dude
And he's a tea. I love trades gain his thought press his thought process is not me
It's always how can I figure out how to get my guys involved? And he even get Compella involved.
And Compella don't really bring a lot to the table.
But he be giving that, he be spoon feeding them.
Right?
So you think about Wimby, when I'm on the block, give me the rock.
Oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, oh, y'all move.
That pick and roll game would be sick.
Oh, my Lord.
And he can pick and pop.
He can shoot it.
What?
That's nasty.
Adam. That's nasty. Adam.
That's nasty.
Adam Silver.
Make the call, Adam.
Intervene.
No time for that.
I know you'll be intervening.
Like, what's the funniest?
I think Spurs,
I think Spurs
will get good overnight.
It's just going to be
one of those.
I mean, that's what
everyone's saying.
They're missing a point guard.
No, no, no.
Not that fucking group.
Not that team. No, no. I don't that fucking group. Not that team, no, no.
Oh, no, you mean more people would go to...
No, they're going to make some trades, and then overnight, you're going to be like, oh, shit.
They're a different team.
They got a good team.
You know, you're talking about you get Trey Young this year, you sit there and get somebody else, and...
You wouldn't keep none of the young guys on there?
None of them?
Maybe one or two, but them...
Zach Collins, maybe.
Them ball-hogging-ass motherfuckers over there.
Like, nah.
Hit the portal.
Y'all got to hit the portal.
Hit the portal.
Y'all got to hit the portal.
Nah, they already showed me what time they on.
They showed me what time they on.
I don't like that shit, man.
I don't like that shit.
Y'all are messing with me.
So weird.
How you going to be shunning out the number one pick?
Y'all have lots of time to mentally prepare for this.
I'm not even going to lie.
We already seen it happen when Cavs and that team came in, when LeBron came in.
When you're young, you don't really believe in the hype that this is the future.
That shit, when you're a player, you're a competitor.
Yeah, he got to prove it.
Right?
Yeah, this ain't the future. Get the fuck out of here. I'm the future. That shit, when you're a player, you're a competitor. Yeah, he got to prove it. Right? Yeah, this ain't the
future. Get the fuck out of here. I'm the future.
Right? And you have to prove it to us.
We not giving it to you. So
any young dude that, I'm in my
third year, second year, I'm trying to get my contract.
I don't really respect
me just giving you the ball because I had to
earn this shit. Real shit. Right? And I got a contract
coming up. I got to feed my family.
So all that, so I can understand that, look, you know, he opened down there. Fuck him
All right, let me go ahead get I have a 20 last year. I'm not giving him the ball for me to average 15
Right. I'm you know, I went into this like I'm gonna average
I was 20 last year might have about 23 this year go ahead get that hundred hundred twenty
Yay, by the Lambo by the big house from Marla you already done calculate all this shit in that summer
Dimitri summers right that even WNBA summer
You gotta hear somebody with that yoga fire. I seen Ricky Davis literally do that the kg like
Shit, I got space nigga. I got a check to get to.
Mm-hmm.
You the ticket. You the ticket. You the ticket. You good.
You got your money.
You good. I got kids too.
All right.
Shit. And I said, damn, Tricky Ricky, you on that time with Ticket?
The legend Ricky Davis.
And we had this thing on the team. I got room. We going to grind. That was our thing.
And that meant if I got it, motherfucker,
go get it off the rim.
Because it's going up.
We gonna grind. For sure.
Well, let's keep this thing moving. Time for Mostly
Fans.
Lex, you trying to get out of here?
We just getting started.
We working, Lex. We got a job.
We got a real job. We here. I love it
here. Another breaking news for the Gills Arena real job. We here. I love it here.
Another breaking news for the Gills Arena shootout.
500 more shooters have been added.
Oh, I was about to say, ah, damn.
The Harlem Boys Choir.
I was about to say, man, take that goddamn mic out, man.
All right, damn.
We had the Harlem Boys Choir.
What was the invite?
The entire Chatsworth basketball team.
So we get Elijah in there, too.
But shit, y'all got all these damn people.
Hey man, no, I got, hey underdog,
y'all gonna have to like work on some shit
cause you know I'm trying to have a fan base there.
Right, and he said everybody had to be 18 and over.
Underdog fantasy, Gil.
To watch?
Hey.
Not to watch.
They might get it.
Anticipate.
Itchy trigger fingers.
No, what I'm saying is,
sporting events is fantasy and gambling. Mother motherfuckers are coming to gym. Mm-hmm
What is the difference? Well, if you're under 18 years old, I know a great place for you to watch the gills arena YouTube
We'll be streaming about because I was there I was guaranteed that I already
Too I had programs coming. I bet you did are you already I already know you did. Programs was coming! With the yellow bus. Boo!
You can't have two competitive advantages.
Let's get going with our first underdog question.
A minute to win it. A minute to win it. First underdog chat question.
A minute to win it, Lex. From I'm Not Done One.
A minute to win it. You already know, baby.
I had 200 kids that was gonna be in shirts and everything
just on the...
Soon as he shoot the ball, I need y'all to be there.
Just...
So just imagine who I was gonna bring.
Please don't say the word.
Ling Ling.
With the bikini.
Yeah, that would work out.
Uh, uh, uh.
You was kissing me.
Yeah, that would work on me.
That would have been a great client.
With the pom poms.
With the pom poms and the thong thong.
Here's our first underdog question.
Shake it, shake it, shake it.
Only when he's shooting.
Hey, Miley.
Look at that.
Look at that.
He looking, Miley. That's something to stop it. That don't work on me. Hey, Malay. Look at that. Look at that. He looking, Malay.
Stop it.
I don't work on it.
Yeah, dude.
Our first question
from Underdog User,
I'm not done one.
Who are the top five
smoothest scorers
you've seen in the NBA?
Doesn't have to be based
on stats,
just their bag work.
Smoothest?
Just in history?
Smoothest scorers
that you've seen in the NBA.
I go with Bird, MJ,
Kobe.
I mean,
Paul George be smoothed in the out there.
I do Paul George.
That Bucks Ray Allen.
No T-Maka?
That Bucks Ray Allen was smooth.
That just is smooth.
I mean, T-Mac was just a killer.
I'm just talking about that smooth, just all little in and out.
Put a little one hand to the end. That's my five.
George Gervin.
Jamal Mashburn.
Ooh.
Tim Thomas.
Mm.
Mm.
Kevin Durant.
Very smooth.
LaMarcus Aldridge.
Smooth.
Smooth and easy.
L.A., pull up to the show.
We're in L.A.
Willie Hills, rather, but nonetheless close.
I guess my list will be my recent players.
You can go combo, NBA, WNBA, or you can go however you want.
Okay, I'll do the cute WNBA list.
This is Lexi's arena. Um, DT, Maya Moore.
Maya Moore.
Candace Parker.
Mm-hmm.
Chelsea Gray.
Um, Jewel Lloyd.
Chelsea's so...
Chelsea Gray's smooth.
Chelsea's so smooth.
Have you seen her before?
Chelsea's so cold, man.
Like smooth?
So smooth.
Like chill.
So cold.
Chill. Cold-blooded. Not lefty. Not lefty? cold, man. Like smooth? So smooth. So cold. Cold-blooded.
Not lefty.
Not lefty?
Cold, bro.
Plum?
I mean, yeah, she's smooth, too, but Chelsea got some shit that...
She...
Woof.
Woof.
Yeah.
She make you go...
She make you go, ooh.
NBA history.
She done been around the game a long, long time.
A long...
What?
Can you see Dee Brown pull up to our show? We been around the game a long time. What? What? You see Dee Brown pull up to our show.
We been around the game a long time.
29 years.
She's new.
No.
Watch her.
I told you my list was going to be ruined.
Her list is going to be like two.
Kyrie, Paul George.
Beautiful.
Lou Williams.
Ooh.
KD.
Kyrie.
Did I say Kyrie?
Yep.
But you can say him. Kyrie. That's how smooth he is.-hmm. Kyrie. Did I say Kyrie? Yep. But you can say him.
Kyrie.
Kyrie.
That's how smooth he is.
Cleve the Kyrie.
I might put Carmelo Anthony in there.
Ooh.
Smooth.
Smooth criminal.
Smooth criminal.
Smooth bucket gear.
All great lists.
That would be mine, too.
Yeah.
All great lists.
I like Joe Johnson.
Joe was smooth criminal.
He had, like like one of the best
Best shooting guard playbooks. Yes, his playbook was crazy
Like it was like you pass it set a screen come down with the pin down hit him with a pick and roll pass
Okay, you like what?
Yes
That's when I feel like I was good I said said, I got 27-mo Joe, Joe.
I feel like I need to play some more.
Coach, don't go on now.
Let's go.
I would do the same thing.
Our second question is a video question from a fan of the show.
He asks a lot.
Underdog user bmack32.
Hey, since Lexi don't like people riding in cars
and asking questions, I'm going to stand by the car
and ask this question.
Look here.
I need y'all to settle two debates that I'm having with my coworkers.
The first one is, should Rasheed Wallace be in the Hall of Fame?
And is he top five, power four?
Second debate is, prime LeBron, prime D-Rose, one-on-one, mano-a mano y mano, three dribbles, who you got?
My safety rose, smoke shit.
I would say so.
Too fast.
Too fast.
BMAC 32.
He got a garage too.
He got money, money. I'm going to go next to the car.
So should she be in the Hall of Fame, and is he a top five power forward of all time?
Tim in talent wise offensive defense as a as a whole player. Yes
I mean he was very skilled and talented very smart basketball player
I
Got a look at his numbers.
If somebody would have told me he's in the Hall of Fame,
I wouldn't have said no.
Career averages, 14.4 points per game,
seven rebounds, 1.3 blocks.
Yeah, I don't think those numbers
would get him in the Hall of Fame.
But, I mean, as the talent, as a player
who played against him,
who really watched him dominate,
we couldn't stop him.
But he was more...
Rasheed was more of a...
All around...
He was the definition of,
let's just get the win.
If I gotta give you 49, I'm gonna give you 40.
If I gotta give you 10, I'm gonna give you 10.
Is he better than Chris Webber?
Two... I'll give you 10. Is he better than Chris Webber? Two, they're totally two different type of players.
See, cause I got, you got, you got Carl,
you got Tim, you got KG,
you got Dirk, you got Chris, you got Charles.
Do you consider Giannis a power forward or a center?
Yeah, he's a power forward.
So you got a long list of guys,
but then you got Sheed, you can't,
like for me, when you talk of talent,
like you said, talent, defense, smart, champion,
you know, can he hold his own by himself on his own team?
Can he, has he ever done that?
Like we never seen that.
But it doesn't mean that he can't.
But I think him being able to be an all-star during a time
where there was a lot of great players,
where he was seen to be like,
I'm not backing down to none of this smoke.
You know, you got Antonio McDyess
and a lot of other guys that were pretty good
that you could say could be top 25 top 30 but you talk about Hall of Fame
and I don't look at Hall of Fame from the staff point of view I look at the
body of work of your talent and what you did where you was at and I think in
Portland if they would have beat the Lakers it's a change in trajectory but I
think losing to them and then going to Detroit
and then playing like second, third fiddle kind of changed his trajectory.
So Hall of Fame would be a reach at this point.
But he's still, to me, like top ten power forward.
But see, that's the funny part of what it is.
Even in Detroit, with Detroit, he was the focal point of stopping.
Defensively?
No.
Yeah, for defensive, when we're playing defense against them,
he was the one everybody was worried about.
For the pick and pop.
They didn't care.
They were like, Rip is going to do what Rip do,
come off the little down screen, right?
Chauncey is, you know, keeping it, but everybody really focused on Rasheed.
And the thing, that's what I said, the thing with Rasheed was
he was never asked
to score 30.
Right.
There was no one guarding.
There wasn't guarding
his turnaround fadeaway,
none of that.
But the fact that he always
played team basketball.
Yes.
Like he was,
he was Mr. Team Basketball.
Right.
His frustrations came with
y'all cheating us as a team. Yeah, don't cheat us.
So, you know, it was never like,
like it was, like, no matter
what team he was on, if the game was
on the line, he's getting the ball. That was
no question. He would make the right play.
No, he's shooting that bitch.
Right play. That's the right play.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on down here.
Come on down here.
Defensively, like, he was
great, but he sacrificed so much offensively.
You don't really know what he could have did.
It was one of those things that's like, if you switched him for Tim Duncan, what changed?
Turn around, pull up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was a better pick and pop shot.
That's what I'm saying.
He was one of those guys.
But he was always, he had so much talent with him always that it was never about him.
You know, the Chris Webber thing was like, man, you know, Chris was sacrificing too.
So it's really hard because we never seen these guys in moments where they got
to be selfish. And sometimes as a fan, I'm like, damn, I wish he was just, he had the
team by himself so we can see who he really was. It was one of those things like, damn,
I wish he just had the team by himself so we can really see what type of player he was.
Like you know when Jermaine O'Neal, right? Oh, that know when um Jermaine O'Neal right? Oh that wasn't
J-O Jermaine O'Neal left and then oh shit. Look what he is, you know different different types
Oh, it was so cold man. God damn and she can shoot the three from left-handed. He's shooting left-handed
That he was like he's teams to be the double teams play hard
It's just one of those things like you just wish a player like him just had a team by himself
to see what he really has.
So, you know, as of right now,
you wouldn't want to put him in the top five, top ten,
because they're going to look at the resume,
not look at how he played the game.
She was that dude.
I think that's the problem we run into a lot now
with things getting lost in translation through the generations.
We all know watching him at his height at North Carolina,
even in high school, Simon Gratz, like, he was that dude.
But just for us to even bring back names that people need to go back and research,
like the Antonio McDyess, the Jamal Mashburns, you know,
all of those type of, you know, names, guys that get lost in translation,
but these are guys that really tore shit up. And then you got Jermaine O'Neal, like Steve Francis, like
you got guys that he got on the wall that motherfuckers probably like, yo, was he really
like that? Like, yo, he was really like that.
Yeah, I remember Jermaine, I think it was my second year. He leaked out, so you know,
guards got to get back.
So he's posting me up on damn near the fast break, so they threw it.
And I was like, I got him.
I got him.
I don't know what the fuck he did.
I don't know what move he did, but it was like a throw it over here, right,
and go fake spin and went back that way.
And I was like, no, I don't.
Self-awareness. I was so embarrassed, man. I got him, but no, I don't. I was so embarrassed, man.
I got him, but no, I don't.
Because I'm thinking he going to, you know, I'm thinking he going to pound and just try to, and I can just hold him until he did. Oh, my Lord.
That's the one.
I flew this away.
No, I don't.
Okay, good.
That's the one.
That was the most embarrassing shit ever, man.
On a fast break, I just...
Mm-hmm.
He hit me with a shim-shim-shim.
I was out of there.
A shim-shim-shim?
Yeah, it was here.
Because that's what I had to re-watch.
Because it was here, and then he, boom.
Then went back that way.
That's the one.
That's the one.
And it was a fadeaway.
Oh, he shot it.
He didn't lay you up?
No, because I don't think he knew that I flew that away.
But it was like an early transition.
He was down.
It was an early transition.
So I'm under the basket.
He boom, boom.
And then it hit the fadeaway.
I know he had to laugh.
That was just you and him down there.
It was just me and him.
Yeah.
I know he was laughing like, damn.
Man, that was easy.
That's what Mello used to do.
Get you down there early.
I got him.
They don't even do that no more. Because they don't run the floor like that. Oh, damn's what Melo used to do. Get you down there early, man. I got him. Do it here.
They don't even do that no more.
Because they don't run the floor like that.
Oh, damn.
They don't run the floor.
Three to three point line.
I used to hate getting back.
I used to hate, like, getting back first because.
Everybody coming.
Yeah, because they used to post up down there.
Yes, every time.
Yeah, now you run back.
You're like, all right, I got out.
Because everybody on the perimeter.
The one and the two get back.
Which is the dumbest shit.
And as soon as you contest and leak out.
Could you imagine if it was flipped?
The guards would get the rebound.
No.
That would be funny.
Think about it.
Think about the contradiction of this.
Guards get back.
Why are you not picking up the ball?
Yes.
That part.
Because I'm waiting.
And you're guarding the big man.
The big man has got down first.
You're like, I got to hold him
to your lazy ass get back.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm my man scoring.
I'm guarding three people
in one position
and my post player
is still at half court.
And you still.
I'm getting yelled at
for not getting up at half.
This motherfucker Shaq
coming down the lane.
I got to sit here and protect the basket
while Derrick Fisher coming down the lane and
Pull it up.
So I'm sitting here like.
And don't let you leave to go try
and pick up your men and they just
And they throw that bitch right into the dunk, yeah.
We just.
Then it's.
Sit down.
Sup.
All right.
A beautiful place to stop today.
Another legendary spirited show,
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It's gonna be crowded gonna have food trucks. Go have Brandon selling merchandise Applebee's catering, baby
Is the catering I mean is the food trucks already paid for
This is your thing. Hey, the food trucks's already paid for so you can't eat. You ain't eating. Hey, all
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So you're about to go through a food truck and Applebee's?
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Oh my Lord, have mercy.
Order within your means. Don't be at the food truck.
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That's what I gotta tell him
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