Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates How Far Steph Can Carry The Warriors

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates How Far Steph Can Carry The Warriors as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew returns for another jam packed week in the Arena. They open up the show recapping the Super Bowl, disc...ussing all things from Patrick Mahomes' legacy to Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift. Then they move onto the NBA where they break down Steph Curry's clutch shooting against the Phoenix Suns and debate how far he can take the aging Golden State Warriors this season. Finally, they break down Pat Bev's comments toward Daryl Morey surrounding the Pat Bev trade before giving their perspective on the Mike Epps vs Shannon Sharpe fued. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:59 Kenyon's BOLD NFL Prediction 0:05:26 Gil's Arena Recaps The Super Bowl 0:07:44 Was Usher Out of Pocket with Alicia Keys? 0:11:49 Travis Kelce vs Andy Reid Reaction 0:18:30 How Far Can Steph Carry The Warriors? 0:30:05 Unpacking Draymond vs Nurk Round II 0:38:13 Will Klay Accept a Reduced Role? 0:48:05 Tyrese Haliburton's INSANE Basketball IQ 0:58:05 Luka's Role in Mavs Front Office 1:04:21 Is Grant Williams Too Annoying? 1:08:29 Gil Details The Player-Owner Relationship 1:14:21 Was LeBron's Pass a Pass? 1:18:50 Daryl Morey Lies To Pat Bev 1:29:12 Thanasis Shammgod 1:42:43 Great Defense Will Mentally Drain Opponents 1:50:32 Addressing The Mike Epps vs Shannon Sharpe Beef 2:04:52 MostlyFans 2:14:05 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:57 We're getting my $100 back. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me. This is my school. This is what I was doing when I was about to live. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice,
Starting point is 00:01:09 or the locker room. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presenting my underdog fantasy. What's up? Wow. Lots of energy, guys. Yeah, you need it. I'm just, I'm faking it. I'm trying to hold on a long weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You was in Vegas, too? You know, here. Oh, no, you was in AZ. Vegas, AZ, back to LA. You know, quick. Had to go see what these bags were looking like My bad. She just got it. Yeah. Oh, you got into that. Oh, that's off that bird Yep, I got here. Did you drive? No foot with that airport look like it wasn't that bad. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, I think I got there like right before it got crazy. What you flying? Southwest already you already know yeah, but you left last morning and got here. Yeah. Oh not last night 655 that's Southwest last night at a JSX I Tried to Yeah, everybody left last night. I mean I'm pretty sure that traffic was killer come last night. Yeah, it was crazy. Coming from Vegas here, driving? It was a mistake to leave after the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Might as well wait till 6 in the morning. Good game. Sorry for Niners fans. It's hard out here. I need to get me a football team, man. That should be looking fun. You got two here. Come to the Raiders, Gil. You got two teams in the city.
Starting point is 00:03:02 If it was L.A. Raiders, I would have been... You got two teams in L.A. Pick one. Gotiders, I would have been with them. You got two teams in LA. Pick one. Got the Rams and the Chargers. We only acknowledge the Rams. Chargers is LA? Yes, they're Los Angeles Chargers now. Los Angeles Chargers.
Starting point is 00:03:13 No disrespect to all my Chargers friends. Los Angeles Chargers. Which one's the San Diego team? That's the one. They don't have any. That's the Chargers. They used to be the Chargers. They moved here.
Starting point is 00:03:21 We ain't got hipster football. No. Yeah, they moved here. Rams, then. OK. That'll do. Oh, no. You can't. They ain't not hip to football. No. Yeah, they moved here. Rams, then. Okay. That'll do. Rams is Anaheim? No.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Well, they here, though. They the one who built the stadium. Crunk and them built the stadium. I'm an L.A. Rams fan. I'm an L.A. Rams fan. You heard it here first. Gil is officially an L.A. Rams fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 He's got a good quarterback. Smoke? No, there's no smoke for the Rams. I don't know. Are they good? Dallas State. You? Nope, the room. I don't know. Are they good? You know, that's not Not injuries this year When super a couple years ago a couple years. Yeah years back. Oh, wow drain snow. Yeah, I'm see going into a dynasty
Starting point is 00:04:02 But this is this is in Kansas City. This is Gills Arena. So they're a dynasty now? Got three Super Bowls. Hell yeah, they are. That is a dynasty. Listen, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's going to win more than Tom Brady. He's going to pass Brady seven?
Starting point is 00:04:16 He's, yes, absolutely. Tom Brady has seven? Yeah. Shit. Getting it. But, like, huge breaks in between. That's my thing. Patriots.
Starting point is 00:04:22 We're going to talk about it in a second. If Todd gets more,. He young as shit Smoking the joke now, so But this is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy as always we got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us Okay So you saw you for about 27 minutes? We got Lexi Brown back here with us on the couch. It's beanie day, apparently, on this side.
Starting point is 00:04:48 No, it's all... We didn't get our hair done. Yeah, we definitely didn't. Not out of JC. JC was here ready to cut some hair, but we were not on time. And we got Kenya Martin representing the hat-wearing side of the couch. What's that? But we got a lot to get into,
Starting point is 00:05:05 so here's what's cracking in the arena today. The big game was this weekend, so we got to talk about some of the biggest moments during the game and in the halftime show. Swiss Beats, we thinking about you. Steph is one of the most clutch players in the league and added another game winner to his highlight reel, but how far can 30 take this warrior squad?
Starting point is 00:05:24 And Pat Bev said Daryl Morey pump- faked him before his trade to the Bucs. Wonder how James Harden is feeling about all that. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. Them pickums was pickum in last night, you know into my street got some bread finally shout out underdog fantasy Shout out Christian McCaffrey got me my 72 rush yards in the L. God is good And we do mostly fans at the end of every show
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Starting point is 00:06:16 YouTube, we've got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. So, Sunday, all eyes were on the football world and the big game. Star-studded affair. Taylor Swift pulled up. Ice Spice was there.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't know how into the game she was, but hey, Taylor Swift said, pull up to the suite. I'm coming with you. Brown made an appearance. I think Westbrook was out there. Jay-Z and Beyonce, to name a few. Chiefs got the win, their second straight chip, and Pat Mahomes joined some elite company, winning his third title in seven seasons and joining Brady and Joe Montana
Starting point is 00:06:49 as the only players in NFL history with three or more Super Bowl MVPs. So in my mind, at least, Brady's still the undisputed GOAT with seven Super Bowl rings during his career, but, Ken, we'll start with you first. Does Mahomes belong in the conversation amongst the greatest QBs in NFL history? He's trending that way.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, it's still early for him, but just in big moments and big games, he shows up. He's only lost to one guy in the big game, and that guy ain't playing no more. So, I really don't, like, if he stays there him and Travis they get a few more weapons and My brig Eddie Eric be enemy back as OC Yes, he was getting his Doc Rivers consultant. I think after the commander booted himself I Wouldn't put him in Brady yet, but I think he... Yeah, I mean, just based trajectory,
Starting point is 00:07:47 where his career's at, seven seasons in, obviously seven more Super Bowls, that's a... And six starts. Yeah, that's a lofty task to get what he needs, five more to pass Brady, four more to time. And this era, he's the best quarterback playing, so I wouldn't doubt it. Like, really, I really wouldn't be surprised,
Starting point is 00:08:06 because he's going to play his whole career there. It's going to be the same thing. They're going to keep building around him. They know what they have. Just keep building around him. Keep putting pieces around him. Tongue twister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Losing Tyreek Hill, you know, the receiving court, not necessarily all that. Obviously, Kelsey is Kelsey, but... Yeah, they can get that better. They had the league in drops. They had like 44 drops or something. Wasn't there like a time in the season where people were like off Kansas City? Yeah. Yeah. Taylor got there. Ah. They were like 10-3 with Taylor?
Starting point is 00:08:43 No, so people was writing them off because they never had to go on the road in the playoffs, right? They always had home field. So people was writing them off this year because they had to go to Buffalo and win. They had to go to Baltimore and win. So it was like they were like, oh, this is the time for everybody to get them. And they went to Buffalo, put foot to ass.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Went to Baltimore, put foot to ass again. Yeah. Shout out Pat Mahomes Sr. You know, he was dealing with some issues, but pulled up to the game. Hopefully he got that Uber. Back to the crib. I mean, he got to double down. I mean, you won.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You gots to get drunk now. You gots to get pulled over. You can turn up, Gilbert. You gots to get pulled over. Get in the Uber.. You gots to get pulled over. Get in the Uber. My baby boy. He got pulled over before the Super Bowl. Hey listen, I'm celebrating before the hour. Go to the script. Yeah, the script was scripted. Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce. Oh, generational. Hov had them S-Dots on at the game.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I know right. Hey Todd, Reebok, hey. I let your boy. We got two Reebok plugs on at the game. I know, right? Hey, Todd, Reebok, hey. I'll let you boy. We got two Reebok plugs here on the couch. They still got those in. Lexi. You know, Danwell, his is coming from his closet. No, them was brand, brand spanking. He ain't had them for 20 years.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You don't think so? I don't think he had them. Nothing new out the box like that. Oh, he pretty much, you know. The bitch was clean white. He could have. I don't think he had them not not new out the box like that Clean white He could have He just leave probably just like you I'm mad ain't got none of mine. I got a few pair, but not I got some shit in the collection, but you know, I'm gonna keep it classic, but I need to miss dots
Starting point is 00:10:21 No, I found so I did my dugout my Gucci ones that look just like them Yeah, but they say Not the same so we got to talk about ushers halftime show but more specifically a moment that had the internet buzzing that skating Not that skating you during the performance usher was Hugged all up on Alicia Keys who as you may know is married to Swiss beats obviously, we're just a. During the performance, Usher was hugged all up on Alicia Keys, who, as you may know, is married to Swizz Beatz. Obviously, it was just a part of the performance, but a little too much key-keying. So, Lexi, was Usher out of pocket for hugging up on
Starting point is 00:10:55 Alicia Keys like that in a Super Bowl halftime show? Oh, no. All part of the performance, but he's been doing this at all his shows. We expected nothing less from him to be extra like that. And they were singing my boo. They had to. They had to do it. That's not his boo. That's somebody else's boo.
Starting point is 00:11:14 That's someone else's boo. But what did you think about the halftime performance in general? Oh, I loved it. The roller skating. I really wish he sang more of his, like, longer in his songs. He sang like 20 seconds of each song. He was moving.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Too many hits. He was moving. The fashion's like, wait a minute. There's just a lot going on, but it was fun. We were at a watch party, and the first half of the game was a little boring, but when Usher came out, the whole vibes of the party changed, and then the game got a little bit more exciting after that.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But we was lit. We were lit. We got a question from the audience. How will this affect their Valentine's Day? How is that? There's going to be some confessions. I mean, come on. That man, this switch beats ain mean. That man is, listen, dog.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Swizz Beatz ain't worried about Usher, man. That man ain't concerned. Performance, ain't no. All these insecure ass people out here, dog. K, we got to run these numbers up, all right? No, I'm talking about just insecure. Like, dude, I'm reading shit early. Like, everybody got something.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like, dude, it ain't that serious. It's not that deep. They are performers performing. Like, yeah, if he would throw it down and try to take a pants. But none of that occurred. Like, the dude, they doing a performance, man. I'm pretty sure they went through rehearsal a hundred times. And, I mean, if Swiss Beatz knows anything about YouTube,
Starting point is 00:12:45 I'm pretty sure he Googled, you know, Usher's taste in women. And his performances. And if he Googled any of those women's facial features, I'm pretty sure he wasn't, I'm pretty sure he wasn't worried. You know what I mean? Alicia Keys is way above what he looks for in the female's audience. This is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy, as always.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Underdog Fantasy. No, I'm just saying, I mean, well put, Gil. I'm just saying, after Chili, I mean, it got a little rough. I mean, Usher wasn't performing to the standards of his name. Let's just say that. I mean, he had regulars. So we've all seen a ton of Super Bowl halftime shows. What's your favorite one that you've seen?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Shit. Hell, I don't know. I haven't watched a lot of Super Bowls. I really don't. I couldn't. I'm going to go with this last one, Us don't know. I didn't watch a lot of Super Bowl. I really don't I couldn't I'm gonna go with this last one Oh shit. I Liked Rihanna last year. I liked her a lot. I also remember Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson Yeah, yeah, we all remember that. Yeah, but I was really young when that happened, huh? Really years ago? Long, long, long, long, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:14:06 We were just a little bit older than you at that point. But I think Dre and Snoop in L.A., seeing people crip-walking. Oh, yeah, that was dope, too. In the NFL arena. I love Super Bowl halftime. Personal favorite. I think the only thing I've ever seen from a Super Bowl was, What's up?
Starting point is 00:14:21 That's Super Bowl, right? That's it? There was some good ones yesterday. I've never seen a Super Bowl halft's it? That's it. There was some good ones yesterday. That's it. I've never seen a Super Bowl halftime commercial during the Super Bowl. There was some good ones yesterday. Did you see Beyonce's commercial?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yes. Beyonce was talking. She was acting. She was falling on the ground. Yeah, she was saying, did I break the internet yet? She was trying to break the internet. Yes. She did, because Beyonce don't talk to us.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The Dunkin' Donuts, that was... Yeah, that was JLo. Was that a Super Bowl commercial? Yeah, it was a commercial. The Ben Affleck one? Yeah, that was a Super Bowl commercial. Oh, see, I just watched that online. Oh, the funny shit with the Arnold Schwarzenegger joint. Oh, that shit was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:14:55 He can't say neighbor. Uh-huh. Oh, dog, that shit. He can't say neighbor. Oh, listen, man. He can't... Oh, no, that shit was so funny. Yeah, I see that one.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You didn't see it? Uh-uh. Oh, you got to look it up. Because they've been advertising it like the State Farm. I hate like the movie coming soon. Oh, look dog He was doing the State Farm joint and they couldn't say I just had different people trying to get him to say it Oh listen Seven million dollars pop for a Super Bowl Vito came in at the end cuz they the twins thing, and he said it for me. He said, that's what I said. He said, no neighbor.
Starting point is 00:15:30 They had a lot of like A-list celebs. I've never seen, I mean, I wasn't paying attention, but there was like a lot of A-list celebrities in all the commercials. Seven million just to get the spot. Oh, in the commercials? No. Yeah, it was like everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:42 It was crazy. But yeah, that Beyonce Verizon one was my fave. We had a Gill's Arena promo, but yeah that Beyonce verizon. Oh, sure my fave We had a gills arena promo on to be that you guys may has James Brown ever did does it well? Probably not Probably I don't think I don't think he's ever going to Not me. I'm just so nobody like him Prince Prince Prince had one of the greatest performances of all time Michael Jackson at the Rose Bowl back in the day. Whitney Houston? Did Whitney do it?
Starting point is 00:16:08 She did National Anthem. Was that at a Super Bowl? She did the National Anthem. Best National Anthem ever. I was about to say R. Kelly, but I'm pretty sure no. Yeah, that... I don't think... Because he would have got in trouble before.
Starting point is 00:16:19 No. The answer to that is no. No. Even... Yeah, that's what I said before. Even... I wish... He was paying on children no. Yeah. That's what I said before. I wish he was paying on children then. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. And he was pissing on people back then. He never got there. Okay. Let's discuss a big moment in the game after the Chiefs fumbled on a play. Drake would be a good one. I don't know. Yeah, he got a lot of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Weekend, I mean. Weekend already went. Weekend might. Weekend did it before Drake? Hey, they lucky they got the whole show out of him because he's notorious for stopping that motherfucker 20 minutes in being like, ah. Wait, is that the one he got that was like mirrors and stuff? Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Was that real? He fucked himself up trying to get out? No, I think it was a part of the performance. But the internet had a field day with it. Okay. A meme still in heavy rotation. But let's discuss the big moment in the game after the Chiefs fumbled on a play
Starting point is 00:17:10 that Travis Kelsey was not in the game for. Kelsey was very, very animated on the sideline. Oh, my God. Bump Chiefs head coach Andy Reid got all up in his grill to force his displeasure with being sidelined in that moment. Kian, that's your Cincinnati Bearcat brethren.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Yeah. Are people making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be, or would other players be allowed to show the same emotion? In this game, if you who that is to your team, and knowing all circumstances, yeah, he was wrong for bumping his coach. I'm pretty sure that wasn't his intention to bump him. He was emotional. In that game, up to that point, he had one catch for one yard.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They fumbled him in the game. So it's just, yeah, his frustration got the better of him in that moment. But Andy Reid knew what he had. So it wasn't, and I don't think, like I said, if it's a big-name player and you mean what he means to his team what I'm saying? So it wasn't... And I don't think, like I said, if it's a big-name player and you mean what he means to his team, I don't... Whoever it is.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah. Like, people trying to make it out about race. Yeah. Because, like, no. Race? He's a hell of a football player, right? You know what I'm saying? That's what they're trying to make it out to be.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like, if it was a black player, then he would have got kicked out of the game. Like, no. Who would have kicked him out? The coach? Yeah, that's what they're saying. Like, if it was a black player, then he would have got kicked out of the game and out, like, no. Who would have kicked him out? The coach? Yeah, that's what they're saying. Like, that's what I read. It really just depends if you're a good or bad player,
Starting point is 00:18:32 I feel like. Yeah, if you're the 53rd guy and you walk up on Andy Reid fucking yelling at him, if you play special teams... So they're saying if Patrick Mahomes did the same thing,
Starting point is 00:18:43 he gonna kick him out? No, no, no. Okay, I was just checking. Like, other receivers, other... You already know how people saying if Patrick Mahomes did the same thing, he's going to kick him out? No. Okay, I was just checking. Other receivers. You already know how people feel about Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, they named other guys like Lamar Jackson, A.J. Brown. Lamar Jackson did that to his coach in the Super Bowl. They would have kicked him out. That's what they did.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They would have made a bigger deal about it. They're like hypothetically saying. Yeah, not a chance. If they lost, they would have tried to make this a point. Yeah, right you You and your that's them and that's their relationship. I every day relationship is none of our business We can say what we want But I guarantee you any of you coaches would have been bumped by any of your players in a Super Bowl The last game of the season and you kicked him out and y'all lost you fired
Starting point is 00:19:26 there's time to prove points and there's time to win games yeah right he got bumped coach aneem watch out so uh like Antonio Brown he said we ain't got it while we got it we nobody got a kick you are you gonna do that yourself? Have you ever been One of the funniest I've ever seen in my life Is hilarious y'all follow him on Twitter? Do. I don't, but he always appears. You see it no matter if you follow him or not. Like the way, like the spacing.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He like writes like haiku poems. Like the way he just tweets out. It's like not even what he says. It's like how he types it out. That makes it even. Very impactful on and off the field. Have you ever been that upset with a coach? And how did you handle the situation?
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. I mean, if you're trying to win games and shit happens in the moment, yeah, you get heated. You know, I've thrown clipboards, right? At the coach? In the vicinity? No, just trying to pick it up, trying to run a play. Throw that shit down. Throw that shit out of there take the pin
Starting point is 00:20:46 Keep drawing this stupid ass play What happened after that nothing Try to win like that like same thing when coaches get mad right coach get mad and do one of these and hit you in The shoulder or kick something the total thing and it hit you, nobody takes offense. Yeah. And motherfuckers might say, ow, god damn, shit. But it ain't something where, that's what I said, only media tries, only media and outside industry
Starting point is 00:21:16 try to paint it a picture for negativity. Like, it's emotions, things happen, right? We've been around things like, things in practice. We say stuff. They say stuff. Right? So it ain't, no one takes offense to it.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Just like Andy Reid is not like, what do you do? Nothing, right? Just keep on. Yeah. Keep on. That's...
Starting point is 00:21:38 He flinched. He's like, okay, Travis, I got it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Second half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever had to get in a culture shit like that during the game? Halftime, yeah. In my public, I tried to beat George. I was going to beat George up in them. Oh, no, I got suspended in the playoffs. We played the Clippers. Like the final three games, you know, I played the first two games.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, I got suspended for the rest of the playoffs. I never went that far. Oh, no, I was trying. Yeah, it was. And I'm. Is that the only coach? Yeah. Okay, then that says a lot.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. I can honestly say if Latrell Sprewell never had choked PJ Carlissimo and I knew the result and I knew like my track record and all that, I would have beat George up, dog. I'm dead ass serious. I knew in the back of my mind my career was over. Oh, so he was... Right? He's one of those. Like my career was over had I did like... No, I got into like... So you know in the
Starting point is 00:22:42 old time, it was old Stapleson with crypto where the coaches meet at in the hallway then they come yeah, so we all went in the locker room I wait till they was in a meeting in the hallway, and I went right in between them and assistant coaches backed up They didn't grab me didn't touch me they moved back And I was right in his face you motherfucker. I kick your goddamn ass you fat mother. I was right in his face, you motherfucker, I'll kick your goddamn ass, you fat mother. I was listening, dog. I said, you lucky. I was crying, dog. I wanted him.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I said, you lucky. I told him, you fucking lucky, dog. I went back in the locker room, nigga, and told them niggas on the team, oh, you motherfuckers selfish, y'all ain't going to win shit if any of you niggas feel a way to say something. Nigga, there got crickets in it Dixie nigga. Yeah, I think I turned my chair around a lot and I call my assistant at the time That's me. You got a car here. I was leaving at halftime, though Always do you remember with what set you off in that moment?
Starting point is 00:23:39 You know, I was going through knee problems and men the dude talk leading up to the playoffs I'm gonna sit out a few games and I'm gonna get ready to the playoffs. I'm going to sit out a few games, and I'm going to get ready for the playoffs. I ain't never not starting the playoff game. Go to you, I'm going to start Francisco. And the playoffs? Okay, I want to reward him for playing well down the stretch. I don't give a fuck how well he played. Game one, we lose.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I don't know how many minutes I played. I played decent minutes game one, whatever. Game two, I go to him. Hey, man. We lost game one. You started this. Let's get back to it. I'm going to start Francisco again. Now you're fucking with me. Game start put me in with four minutes to go in the first. Took me out with like nine to go in the second. Seven game minutes. Mm-hmm. So I'm thinking I'm going back in.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Time, and he called Buck. Greg Buck was gonna go get Eddie Naira. Eddiener, Eddie Nahara. Eddie playing, Eddie a four. So now I'm, now my mind going. I sit up on the edge of the seat like I'm, you know, you look down and I always sit in the last chair. So I'm, you see me,
Starting point is 00:24:59 now I'm, so now I'm steaming now. Like, if you could have had the illustration, like the old cartoon, beet red face theme coming out your ears and your nose, that would have been me in that moment. Damn.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Winding down, five, four, three, I'm up to the locker room. I'm the first in the locker room. I wait till they do their. I go right out there. Listen, Jack. Oh, not because George. Listen, dude. Man, we came to the locker room one day.
Starting point is 00:25:33 We played Utah. I mean, we played Cleveland. Danielle Marshall had a tip to win the game, but he missed. I had 17 rebounds. Marcus Cameron didn't play that game. He was leading top two, three rebounds in the league at the time, but he didn't play. I had 17 rebounds. Marcus Cameron didn't play that game. He was leading top two, three round rebounds in the league at the time, but he didn't play. I had 17 rebounds that night. A huge double-double.
Starting point is 00:25:52 He come in the motherfucking game talking about in the locker room after the win, we ain't men, we don't rebound the ball, we ain't tough, this, that, and the third. Man, who the fuck you think you talking to, man? Right? So we go to practice that day, he come try think you talking to, man? Right? So, we go to practice. He come try to talk to me, man. I ain't got nothing to say to you.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Get the fuck out of my face, dawg. GM in there. I'm over there. I stand up. I go talk to Kiki. He come over there and try to talk to me again. I said, did you hear what the fuck I just told you, dawg? Go talk to Marcus.
Starting point is 00:26:21 He the only one fucking rebound. Because after he said the shit, we ain't men, we ain't tough, we ain't rebound, he looked at MC and said, when you coming back, big fella? Oh, shit. Disrespectful. And I said, Eddie, you should be pissed too because Eddie had like 11. You should be pissed too. Like, dude, I was, man, listen, I was.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah. So they suspended me in the playoffs. I went in the locker room. I took my name tag down. I cleaned my locker out. I was trying to get out of that. So I walked in right after the exit meeting, right? Everybody in the team exit meeting.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Nobody told me the time. I was just going to the gym to clean my shit out. I walk in, nigga, and everybody like, oh, shit. They was waiting on me. I didn't say nothing to nobody. Went in there, nigga, oh, shit. They was waiting on me. I didn't say nothing to nobody. Went up and took my shit down. Nigga, put all that shit in that black trash bag. Nigga, threw all that shit away.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Nigga, I took my personal stuff, my pictures of my kids. Out of there. And had to go back the next year. Had to put it right back in. Yeah. Like I said, Had to go back. Yeah, but me and him had to sit down. They wanted us to sit down and have a
Starting point is 00:27:29 powwow right before the season, so I told him straight up, dude, hey, you coach your team, you don't say shit to me, I'm going to do my job. And I went back. Lexi, you ever had a situation? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Okay, yeah. Me and my coaches, sometimes we would get into it in practice or something over something stupid. I did a lot of that shit in my head. Yeah, nothing crazy, though. Oh, me and Huggs was on ESPN. We playing Xavier my senior year in college. Me and Huggs like this, and he on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He yelling at me for not going to get the ball because we got three freshmen that he playing, and they can't get the ball up the floor. So he yelling at me to go get the ball. You need to go get it. I said, man, I didn't recruit these motherfuckers that can't dribble. Shut up and put me back in the game, man.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He walked off, looked back, said, go. Listen, dog, we ain't doing this today, man. Not in this game. Not against this team. back, said, go. Listen, dog, we ain't doing this today, man. Not in this game. Hey, not against this team. We playing Xavier, too. Oh, no. Because that game is intense. So he's like yelling at them.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm like, you recruited them, not me. Not me. Exactly. Feels like a natural transition and a way to keep this show going. So let's talk a little bit about these Golden State Warriors. Warriors didn't make any major moves at the deadline. Decision is looking less questionable as the team is on a four-game winning streak, including a big win over the Suns, big three on Saturday night, where Steph Curry got his chef on with
Starting point is 00:28:58 the biggest bucket in the game. So after Bradley Bill tried to go for this deal Dave step too much face Hit the three to put the Warriors up one because if you don't go for the steal like that They throw the ball right to it What a shot though Candid after the game joking about he finally got a game winner. He's hit several in his career, but.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Like, that's the game winner. That's the one. He's never hit, like, a buzzer beater before? No, he has, but he's been struggling a little bit as of late to get her done. Shit, I saw him put Houston to bed last year. Night, night. He's got ten career game winners. Shit. The Warriors are 6-1 in their last seven games.
Starting point is 00:29:50 In that time frame, Steph's averaging 32 points a game, close to six rebounds, four assists, 54% from the field, 51% from three on over 13 attempts a game. So I know we talked last week, wasn't looking too good for this Warriors team. Some of us felt like they may not even make the playoffs. But what's the Warriors' ceiling when Steph is playing at this level, Gil?
Starting point is 00:30:16 He's been playing at that level all season. But he's elevated now. He was elevated all season. Remember, he was averaging about 31 all season. And he took a dip when Draymond got suspended. So the fact that they're in 10th playing so well lets you know where the ceiling is. Because the ceiling is...
Starting point is 00:30:36 The ceiling is the roof right now? The ceiling is the roof. I mean, we're acting like Steph ain't been doing this all season. It's the rest of the motherfucking team. It's the other 14 players that's the problem right now. Not him. Kermit's shaking up the lineup. Kaminga said he lost faith in Kerr a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You see the rest of them? Yeah, that's big. Keep going. Keep naming. Keep going. Who else? Moody, uh-huh. Draymond doing Draymond, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Wiggins, is he still on the team? Wiggins is still a member of the Golden State Warriors. He said that he forgot how to play basketball at ESPN. Oh, he did? That's what they said. They said that on TV. Clay. He lost his talent, like on...
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like in Space Jam. Like Space Jam. He left it back in Canada. That's not funny, man. His talent got deported. His talent has his visa, huh? Expired. His work visa expired.
Starting point is 00:31:31 His talent back over there, huh? They need him to whoop. He got to play better. That's what I'm saying. Visa ran out on his talent. The ceiling when he's playing like that is Tim's spot because he's done everything he possibly can do To keep them in striking distance, you know, everybody else has to step up at this point
Starting point is 00:31:50 I mean, you know Kurt been put in a tough position obviously a lot of shake-ups not making a move with the deadline I think a lot of us did with that you said Kurt's been put in what he's making some shake-up with the line I'm trying to figure out all this he been put in a no no no you said he been put in a... No, no, no. You said he been put into a... Your players fuck up sometimes. No, I'm just saying because you made it seem like... He's not the reason for the mismanagement of who he going to put in. You made it seem like something happened and this is what he got. That's your Arizona brethren, but I already know you don't really know what he's talking about.
Starting point is 00:32:21 That Kaminga shit, you realize he made a mistake too. Yeah, but understood the error of his to really vote each other out. But understood the error of his ways, really started to lean on Kaminga more. Yeah, you need to. Man, that's the one. He is the NBA. Young, athletic, hungry, play hard.
Starting point is 00:32:38 That's what more motherfuckers need to play like him. Night in, night out. He getting to it. He ain't shy about any aspects of competing. His game, nothing. Throw that ball up. Got the haircut, too.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Been a much different basketball player since getting a haircut like none of us were able to do before this episode. I need to get my Kermit going. But let's talk about Draymond. Heart and soul of this team. that we said that a ton but First time Draymond and nerd played against each other since the slap scene around the basketball world that led to Dre 16 game suspension as expected
Starting point is 00:33:17 both players were about that action during the game, so Nerd was trying to break great. Greataymond, hit him with a two small, with the double floor smack just to make sure he's seen it. Then he tried to turn his back on him, Dray scored on him, hit him with a slap. They also got into it, and Klay, you know, Dray showed Gobert Klay's defense, Klay stepping up for his brother. Took matters into his own hands, knew Dray couldn't do it. And Klay, you know, Dre choked Gobert in Klay's defense. Klay stepping up for his brother. Took matters into his own hands. Knew Dre couldn't do it. Dog, what?
Starting point is 00:33:54 And then final play of the game, Dre stopped KD from scoring. Let him know whose house it was. And as you can probably read lips, called him a pussy. Oh, my God. Former teammate. What's up, book? Been dubbed up, Book. But it's part of the clip, man.
Starting point is 00:34:09 God damn. I think other dudes not just expect this from Draymond, so it's not even like this is a big deal. Go ahead, Katie. What's up, Book? How you doing? Back to normal. So after the game,
Starting point is 00:34:21 Nert basically told Suns beat reporter Dwayne Rankin that brother can't be helped. I mean, it's sad. He didn brother can't be helped. I mean, it's sad. He didn't learn anything, man. It's just a matter of time to knock somebody else again. Take everything back, what I said. You don't deserve a chance. That's it for me.
Starting point is 00:34:39 When you say that, what do you feel like he was doing tonight that told you that nothing has changed? The semantics. I try to hit people with the stuff he shouldn't do, but I don't care. At the end of the day, he tried to play that way, but no one worried about that. So, as tons of Warriors fans pointed out,
Starting point is 00:35:01 and I know we haven't always seen eye to eye over the years, but Nurk was trying to bait Draymond the whole game. Smart on his part, knowing that Draymond was on thin ice. Dray didn't cross that line, came close, but very clear of it. But during his post-game press conference, Draymond had just the same response to Nurk. I mean, I thought I was pretty great tonight, honestly. You know, so I thought, he tried to get in my head and it didn't work. If he want me to walk around quietly like him, I'm never gonna do that, quiet guys don't win. So yeah, I thought I was pretty great tonight.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So yeah, he can keep riding the same horse that he came, rode in on. He can ride his ass on out here on the same horse. It ain't working. Just a quick follow up. What have you learned? Sorry, Adam, I didn't mean to curse, that just slipped out. God, sorry. What have you learned since your suspension?
Starting point is 00:36:00 That when I'm in the game, we are a very good basketball team. Incredible. And I think people are starting to see that. Feeling great. That's what I've learned. Feeling good after that game. Yo, I'm sorry. You did definitely outplay. What have you learned since your suspension?
Starting point is 00:36:21 When I'm on the court, we good as shit. It's Max, though. Hey, man. Hey, y'all. I'm sorry. Y'all ain't gonna change. Y'all ain't changing. Drabo coming. It's very hard not to love that dude, man. I know we spend a lot of this season talking about him, the various situations, but you gotta take the occasional NERC slap,
Starting point is 00:36:48 the Gobert chokeouts, and all that other stuff. The good with the bad. But what did y'all think, just we got a lot to unpack here, but what did y'all think about Draymond saying quiet guys don't win? Is that true or false? Facts or capits, we say on the show. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Would you consider Steph a quiet guy? I mean, when he has Draymond. That's what I'm saying. So, like... I don't know. I don't really know what he meant by that. I think that was just a direct shot at Nurk, but... Yeah, that's what I found. Steph is a pretty quiet dude. You got Kawhi, you got Tim Duck. I mean, you got some quiet guys.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, I mean, you know. Quiet guys and facts. I mean, we understand what he's trying to say, but, you know. We get the gist of it. We get the gist of it. Quiet guys do it, though. Gil Hopper and the Dre translator, is Dre trying to call Nurk the same word that he called KD after the game? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Oh, for sure. No, not kind of. It is. Yeah. Yeah, directly. Yeah. So, how important are the antics in Draymond's ability to get under opposing players' skin in terms of his greatness when you just look at it overall?
Starting point is 00:37:53 I mean, you know, what he brings to the game, you know, a lot of stars don't like, right? You know, someone all in your face, someone touching you all the time, right? We have this thing that we want to move through the, we want to move through the court without being touched, like, you know, like, so like this, just doing this irritates the hell out of somebody, right?
Starting point is 00:38:18 So, you know, he has a knack for just constantly just irritating, you know, the norm, your rhythm. So for him, he's made a living off of it, and it's paid off. He is a four-time champion. He's a defensive player. I mean, he has all the accolades as an individual to stand on what he does. This is not, you know, as much as we want to say, you know, what he does is bad for the game, you know, when you talk about champion, remember, whatever y'all say about him, you got to use that, right? You got to stand on it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No matter what you say, what you say about Dennis Rodman, you got to put the rings behind it to the point where when y'all use rings remember everybody you say they we get to use this too so you say ah it's bad for the game well winning four championships is bad for the game you know yeah he's perfected it it's his craft at this point but he doesn't have to put his hands on people which is i think that's the point everyone was trying to make was general you can be yourself but just don't slap people. Don't choke people up. But that's a part of it, though. No, man, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I don't like that. But I mean, he took Nerg completely out of his game, because Nerg was trying to worry about Draymond. So what if you had a teammate on there that, like, any time they tried to get a lead, they just choked the shit out of the team? I don't want them to choke. Because then they're going to get suspended.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And then we're going to lose. And now what? Like, I don't want them to choke because then they're going to get suspended and then we're going to lose and now what? Like, I don't want to deal with that. Like, what? I don't want my teammates to get suspended. No, don't choke her. It's okay, girl.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Stop. Play basketball. Play basketball. Just a girl. Stop it. When you look at Draymond and just, I mean, we talk about the antics a lot, but you have to appreciate them to a certain extent because they've been a huge part of the Warriors' success in building
Starting point is 00:40:12 their dynasty. Oh, no, I do. He is who he is. That's what it takes to get him going. What can you say? Like I said, the only time that it's cost him is when he got to spend a game five that one year. Other than that, he lost a few dollars this year.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I'm pretty sure he'll regret that. But other than that, no, he is who he is, man. He goes out and he competes. If you let that get to you that's on you yeah and he got until they get done he has a he has a rival and one single another guy so another person who don't like him, which, oh, well. Got the win. I mean, what you going to do about it?
Starting point is 00:41:09 That's the most important thing, right? When you win, you can do what you want. And he did play well. He had a triple-double. Yeah. He had a triple-double? Almost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 He played well. Yeah. Got the key slap at the end, right? Well, let's talk about the other side of it. What does this moment say about the Suns as a basketball team to tolerate a level of disrespect like that? You got Dre going hard on your whole squad. It's a playoff environment.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I mean, you know, when you're talking about just one intense player that you got to play against, I mean, that's it, right? If you can withstand, you know, Draymond Green, I mean, what other team has a player that's going to do that? None. None in the playoffs. You're not going to face anybody in the playoffs that's going to have someone that's sitting there trying to aggravate, trying to stop, trying to do any of this to get under your skin.
Starting point is 00:42:00 He's sitting there trying to manipulate everybody on your team. Oh, he ain't passing you the ball, shit. He's out there trying to manipulate everybody on your team. Oh, he ain't passing you the ball shit. You know what I mean? Like he's out there playing his role. So it don't get no better than, you know, he going to take the challenge at the end. If I got to stop, if Booker was trying to get the ball at the end, he would have been guarding Booker. Yeah, he talking to the bench, coaching, trainers.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah, everybody can get it. Ain't nobody exempt. Oh well. That's what get him going to go out and compete. So is ignoring Draymond the only real strategy? And also as a player on the court, when you have somebody on the opposing team doing stuff like that, how hard is it to ignore what they're doing to you? Like for me, nothing that he... I don't deem
Starting point is 00:42:47 it as being disrespectful. Like you're doing certain shit, I'm like, how'd you do what he did? I'm going to knock your hand off. Like we ain't go, I'm not finna get, go there if it ain't worth, like you ain't doing nothing that's, like when he's hitting her, like that shit was, was What nothing worthy of getting that upset about? just Yeah, I just people they do so sensitive these days No, they get the plates in the media he gets to be like not just to be a victim
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah, I ain't see you what he was doing out there, but what was he doing? Are you just being him? He would think about this game for a while He probably woke up are you I'm gonna just try to get him out of this game exactly do a little shit here and there But that's what I'm saying like listen about that Never never but that's why you do it. I've never seen that do that I've never seen never seen a little baby down with the back bonus booty double floors But you didn't hear the first Mac German. Let me make sure you Baby down you little smack him on the booty twice He's trying to do thing where Draymond had the ball he turned
Starting point is 00:43:54 You know the disrespectful thing the Draymond just drove to the cup and got the bucket He did it to Giannis in a previous but that's I'm saying you you can't play you can't do all that during the court And then play victim in the media. Yeah. He shouldn't be allowed to play today. Yeah, because if he wasn't playing, y'all probably would have got that win. Should have put more thought into that jacket selection.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Which ones? Whose? Nurk's. Nurk's. Yeah. Draymond's shit was fine. I like Draymond's. I like Draymond with the hood.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Glasses too. Yeah, with the Cartier. He was feeling goodes, too. Yeah, with the Cartier. He was feeling good after that game. Yeah, with the good Cartiers on. Yeah, that was a good fit, Dramon. But Nurk, that shit was some bullshit. And was Dramon right in talking about how much better the Warriors are as a team when he's out there on the court?
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think pretty obvious that whatever they're going to accomplish this year, they need him. Because of the fact that what he wanted to say to that question, let's talk about the question that was asked for him to have that response. But what he probably, what he wanted to say, he didn't, which was good. Like, what the hell you mean? What have I learned? He answered it the politically correct way.
Starting point is 00:45:01 We're a very good basketball team. That's what I've learned. Good basketball team. I's what I've learned What I want because you can't be honest you can't say what did you learn nothing? The fuck nothing I ain't learned shit. Yes Fucking money that's all that was I just lost money. That's all it like Motherfuck I was at the Rams. I was at the Rams BrownBrown game, goddammit. I was at a Laker game. I didn't learn shit.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I was at LeBron birthday party. I didn't learn shit, okay? Now, can we get on with the motherfucking next question? Can't say that. No, that's what he wanted to say. That's what he wanted to say. Absolutely, that's what he wanted. I hate when media do that shit. Right?
Starting point is 00:45:38 You've been suspended three games in the last year. So, if you can do it all over again, what would you do? Slap him again. The fuck you think I've been doing at the house? You think I just... I ain't go to jail. I went to my mansion. I flew private to LeBron's
Starting point is 00:45:57 birthday party. You think I was thinking about what I did and why I was spending while I was getting drunk? No! No, I was on the fifth. Yes. The whole time. One, two, three, four, five. That's what I said, man.
Starting point is 00:46:10 They said that you be sitting there like just, yeah, I learned a lot with the suspension and don't do that again. Yeah, so just waiting for somebody to ask another question. Just out there saying nothing. What have you learned? Nigga, in two days, nothing. They said they're a much better team when I'm out there being myself. That's what I was.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Being myself. So that was great today. That was great today. That was great today. So we're talking about the Warriors' dynasty. Obviously, we've got to talk Clay as well. Future's been the subject of a lot of talk. Some thought he'd be moved to deadline. Warriors still pat rolling with this roster.
Starting point is 00:46:56 In a recent interview with the Ringers, Logan Murdoch, Clay had this to say about wanting to stay with the Warriors and being willing to accept a reduced role. He said, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I'll be 35 next year at 35 coming off an ACL and an Achilles tear and still have the ability to be a really good player. Maybe not the guy who scored 60 in three quarters
Starting point is 00:47:14 and scored an NBA record 37 points in a quarter, but still a great threat out there. I modeled my game after Reggie Miller and Ray Allen, and those guys were incredibly effective into their late 30s, so I plan on kind of following that mode. Yeah, let them know Clay said. Damn. Pow, pow. An NBA record in this case. Pow, shots fired. Pow.
Starting point is 00:47:35 He's going through it. He going through it though. I ain't gonna lie, he going through it. Because he turned down the two-year 48. He turned it down because he thought it was worth more. So the fact to see him a few months later saying that he's willing to take a less role, to stay with the team, it kind of, I think, like reality then kicked in. I'm 100% sure if he was balling the way he thought he was, he would have been asking, four-year, 100, right? This is what I am.
Starting point is 00:48:12 You know, so the fact that, you know, reality done kicked in and he realized that, shit, you know, I might be signing a two-year 15, two-year 20 max. Wait, two-year 20 total? Two-year 20. Man, the dude said he's willing to take a backseat role. Oh, my God. You think two-year 48 is still on the table?
Starting point is 00:48:38 I didn't say two-year 48, Gil, but two-year 48 and two-year 20 is substantial. I'm starting to wonder if they bring anybody else in. You can now. Shit, two years. Yeah, if he takes less. They can go after Paul George, come off the bench. Shit, whatever. Two-year 48.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm looking at it. So it's two-year average of 17 this year. You averaged 22 last year. 20 a year before. So it ain't that far off. So he averaged 17 this year, he averaged 22 last year. Mm-hmm. 20 a year before. So it ain't that far off. 2013, 2014, he averaged 18. It's how it looks.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah. I guess it's more average. But I feel like people are being overly critical. Played 47 games, playing 31 minutes a night, averaging 17. That ain't bad, man. But why is why is it such an uproar? Because when you have you averaged 20 last year and so that's worth the same money. They offered you two year 48 for averaging 20. Yeah that's all
Starting point is 00:49:35 they had to give him. That's all they had I think. Wasn't it? No. They can always find some bread. You know so they signed Draymond first, right? Yeah. They gave him 100. Yeah. I'm probably sure he wanted... How many years did they sign Draymond? Four years, I believe. Four years, so I'm in the 100 range. I mean, yeah, if I'm Clay and I see that you gave Dray,
Starting point is 00:49:58 I would have been like, okay, well. Three years, 100? It was four for 100, I think. No, that's Dray's four for 100. So what do you think? second option Yeah, I get it But I mean a dream on his buddy. I would did because the second year would have been a play option. I Would signed it out after the end
Starting point is 00:50:19 He wanted F But the problem is I think he wanted that four years to take him to 39. And then now you could go back and do this and that. So he had bad advice, I think. Yeah. So he should have signed it. Second year play option, right? Mm-hmm. Opted in because I'm not playing as well as I come back,
Starting point is 00:50:37 and then I could still sign another two years. Then you got your four years. No stress. He just wanted the four years. Now the two for less right now would be better than yeah But you know when you're talking about 35, you know what your body feel like Yeah, you know, you know what your body feel like you you trying to see if you can get a guarantee four years out of them and I think that's what where
Starting point is 00:50:59 He wasn't mindful of just if the season went bad and the fact that it's going bad, I don't see them offering him two years, 48 anymore. Knowing now that he knows reality kicked in, he knows that for us to be great, you're going to have to take a back seat, which your money's going to take a back seat. You don't want to leave because obviously you're saying this is where you want to be. I have so much leverage now. So, you know, offering you $30,000. I'm going to start off two-year 2020, 2022.
Starting point is 00:51:36 See what I can get. Hindsight 2020, if you were in Clay's position, would you have made a similar move? When? We always talk about guys betting on themselves but you see what happened to Schroeder it can go bad at times. But if you were in Clay's vision coming into those negotiations
Starting point is 00:51:52 would you have done the same thing try to play this year out prove that you were worth more bread? Draymond just signed Draymond's younger right? Draymond's younger than Clay. But I would have in age, and I'm pretty sure that's what it was,
Starting point is 00:52:10 that he's 34, 35 entering the season. If he can get a guaranteed four years, three years with a player option, and give me guaranteed money until I'm 38, 39 years old, that would be the ultimate goal. And they're the same. I think Dre is a month younger than Clay. Yeah, see, so right there, you just gave him four years to keep him until he's 39. I would have been looking for the same thing.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So, you know, the two-year 48, I probably would have been in the same goddamn boat. But I can't say I would have did anything. I would have been just right here, mad as shit, sitting out there struggling, sounding the same goddamn way. Yeah, you know, I spent a little rough these few last few years. That's not funny. Like, damn, Gil going through it, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, I mean, a lot of things happened in the season, though, that were, like, unseen. Like, I just think... Hope he finish up strong. Yeah, and I think Draymond getting suspended, like, that kind of just derailed what him and... I mean, what him and Steph do, Draymond has such a large part in that.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Obviously, Steph is figuring it out himself, but it's not leading to many wins, but... And we talk about the situation from where it is right now. We've got an all-star break coming up. Obviously, Warriors are going to try to make a playoff push. If Klay can turn it around, can he get some of that value back? Trade talk is over, too. Yeah, I'm saying I'm here.
Starting point is 00:53:37 I know I'm here for at least to the end of the season now. If I can go on a run, have the Warriors make a push in the playoffs, look like vintage Klay in those moments, does that change the basketball? I mean, you can because at the end of the, it's that last part of basketball is what everybody actually be remembering, right? Last 25 games, last 15 games, right? You know, he finished off, you know, like we're talking about Stephon. Oh, you're averaging 36 in the last 55. You know, if he pulls one of those in that April,
Starting point is 00:54:10 you know, June, July, and they, you know, make it far and he's done hit some game wins, he's done hit some 50 pieces and stuff like that. Yeah, he can get his value back. I'm pretty sure as an organization, they're not hoping for that. They're hoping Clay be Clay right now, not Clay of the old. How much do you think Steph is just involved in these discussions? Again, there was big talk for the deadline. I think the market was a little low or slim on Clay, but these are Steph's guys. They built this big three together, this three together this core created this dynasty together
Starting point is 00:54:45 And Steph wanted to take care of his guys and do right by him There was a question I feel like Steph is one of the superstars who like he doesn't really show his cards So like I honestly have no idea how much or how little he has to do with obviously he's's a superstar to his team, but you know, he's not walking around like Hal Brown would walk around like Mr. GM. Not sub-tweeting and all that good shit. But I'm just saying, the Warriors want to keep Steph happy. He's the franchise right now, so a part of that is taking care of these other guys and
Starting point is 00:55:22 keeping this thing rolling until the wheels fall off. Just like anything in life, man. You know, you got no one to hold them, no one to fold them. You know, and it's him to realize if these hands he got with his team is fold them hands, and he got to get new hands. I need some new cars, goddammit, you know? The only thing these cars I got is very good right now, right?
Starting point is 00:55:41 So he's going to have to throw in a couple. He's going to have to throw in a couple to get some new ones. That's my point. Is he going to get to that point or is he like, I got a bad hand. I'm just going to try to ride this out and see if I could. Well, I mean. Left my way to a win. Get your booed.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, you're going to get your booed. You're going to have to pull out a gun and lock him up. Don't light this hand, goddamn. Yeah, they get your booed in the game of Boo Ray. Yeah, you're going to stay with this. I'm going to keep these five. Yeah, I'm going to keep these five. So, you know, we'll see what happens in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Eventually we'll come to that. Let's keep rolling. Let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton. 12 dimes, and the Pacers went over to Knicks in the garden. But none was better than this one right here. Man went off the backboard. Now Siakam in the corner for the three. So the play was very similar to one that happened 12 years ago to the day,
Starting point is 00:56:32 same arena in the garden, Kobe off the backboard, hit Pau Gasol. We got the side by side. Look at that, Halliburton. Halliburton, creative. So when you guys see play like that, I mean, how big of a deal is a play like that to you? Is that pretty basic? That's not basic to me.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Okay. Me either, just as a casual fan watching, like. That's high IQ. Yeah. I mean, that's high IQ, knowing awareness, knowing your options. I mean, you know, that's why only, knowing awareness, knowing your options. I mean, that's why only a few selective people can do it and have done it. J. Kidd is one of those type of guys.
Starting point is 00:57:16 You'd be sitting there posting up and he'd throw it, hit the bottom of the backboard right into your lap. Oh, shit. There's only a few players that use all of the court to their disposal. Right? Kobe. Like even when Ant-Man, you know, when you throw it off the backboard to yourself, that's a where. That's a where you sit there and get caught in the air and like, oh, here's my option.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Right? brain that's moving in real time and understands you know the full magnitude of um the game itself the rules i mean everything that has to do with it so when i see players like this i'm like man very high iq people so game is always evolving and you talk about that it seems like utilizing the backboard more just as the game continues to evolve, to be able to throw defensive off. And obviously it takes a very sharp-minded J-Kid level, a Halliburton and level player to do it. But do you see a world where more players and teams start using the backboard as an additional weapon resource in their offensive strategy?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Because being able to just... No, because most people are dumb. Do you think a coach will ever put a play call in where a player has to throw it off the backboard? I mean, it just seems like, alright, if I can shift the defense and get it off the back and now I just have him coming off the other side. Do you get a stat for that? That coach has to be that type of player. So, J. Kidd is a coach and he could have a play that does something like that, understanding that once you throw it
Starting point is 00:58:43 off the backboard, everybody's going to look and boom, we're going to throw it. But that's like a quarterback or a team with a trick play. That can be a trick play, but for the most part, people are stupid. Yeah. Right? I know some people are going to say, Gil, you never threw it off the backboard, because I didn't pass to nobody. Not even the backboard. Not even the backboard.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Not even the backboard got a pass. No, those are, yeah, that's a crazy play. I didn't want no assist, not even from myself. You know, God damn it. I passed it off the backboard to myself and credited myself with it. Nah, I'm good. Get this bucket. We were talking about high IQ players playing with a guy like J. Kidd. Just the ability, like, were you just aware at all times,, like yo, he could get me this ball at any moment?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Oh, he did. Yeah. Shit, man, you know, he just try shit. Like, you do see this dude standing right here in front of me, right? It didn't matter with him, like he just do shit. Like, this dude, yeah. So when y'all, wait, so when y'all like like was there signs like did he just say you always look at the ball like always look at me like because there's sometimes like
Starting point is 00:59:53 it's like y'all always had your eye on him yeah because you go hit you in your face with it hit you in the back of the head with it or something yeah we just so we just had something like this rapport, man. Like all the spin lobs and all that. It was, I should walk him up and spin. I'm like, all right, tell me once. And it was just, and other situations, like nah, it was just, we always, you knew.
Starting point is 01:00:18 When you play somebody like that, man, you gotta be on the swivel, because he pass first, and he gonna try passes that no one else is gonna try. And he gonna do some shit, he gonna be like, did y'all, you looking around like, did everybody just see what I just saw? Yeah, nah, but he just, that high IQ just trying shit. Like we was, he throwing the ball off the glass to me in the playoffs. We go fast break, like I'm thinking he finna just throw it to him. Oh shit, throw it off, okay.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And it was good for me having him in the All-Star game too. Yeah, I remember I was watching clips of the All-Star game, the shit y'all were getting off in that game. Unbelievable. So it was just having him there made my job easy. Because I knew what he was gonna do, and he knew I'm gonna run, he was gonna throw it up. Is that stuff you practice or is that just a field thing? Hell no, that ain't... I, I mean, I've always just been curious. Like there's a clip, we playing Philly.
Starting point is 01:01:08 He drove baseline. I'm thinking he finished shooting a reverse layup. He see me coming down the middle of the floor. He like, I'm just gonna throw the lob. He like, he behind the basket. He see me coming down and he just threw the ball out. That's crazy. And I'm like, and I dunked him over,
Starting point is 01:01:25 and in my reaction, I came down like, damn. Like, you can read my lips, like, I came down like, damn. Like, it's, I saw him like, he half court. He like bowling to Lucius Harris, and the joint slowed down right by the rim, and Lou just picked it up and laid the bitch in. I was like yo man Like oh nobody trying that. Yeah, but I did I just
Starting point is 01:01:51 But they even have that level of comfort on his side to be able to like that stuff It always just amazed me when you see guys that have a mastery of the game and understand how you the basketball like to get Stuff like that off just even do it but not afraid to turn it over neither Yeah, that's the thing. Like, when you led the league in assists and turnovers, because you're going to try shit, you're like, and he throw it, he jump with you like, ooh, then he realize like, damn, I'm going to get it next time.
Starting point is 01:02:17 So he's going to try it again. I'm going to get it next time. I mean, that's what makes Halliburton so special, because he don't really be turning that ball over that much for the type of passes he be throwing. Like Dre Miller was that way. Andre Miller? Andre Miller was underrated with that thing. Dre was trying.
Starting point is 01:02:32 So I went from J. Kidd to Dre, so it wasn't too big of a fall off. But J. Kidd's special in that regard. So talking about another player who's special, we got to talk about the players that J.K. is currently coaching. Luka. Luka, magic is real. MVP candidate show Knicks fans. Another one of his tricks in the garden recently.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Fucking dying. This is just... Charlie Brown. Yeah, Knicks. You go to New York, you just highlight someone. Yeah. Behind the back pass, the white pal. No, this is... Come on. Oh, that was right-handed. He did turn around. Yeah Behind the back pass the white house
Starting point is 01:03:07 Come on So when y'all when y'all look at that What is the degree of difficulty on a pass like that and you could I know you don't pass anyway So you were never trying to but I thought he was throwing a bitch to the corner Direction with the eyes like it's a lot. That's the hard pass. The finish was tough to well should have dunked a bitch And dunk the bitch like but now hell of a play hell dunk the bitch. But no, hell of a play, hell of a pass, hell of a catch, hell of a finish. That was a highlight. For a good highlight. Yeah, yeah. All the ingredients for a good one.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Let's talk about these Mavs a little bit. The Mavs made some moves at the deadline, adding P.J. Washington and Daniel Gafford. Pair looked good in their Mavs debut in a blowout win over the Thunder. Gafford dropped 19 points, 9 rebounds, and 17 minutes off the bench. Washington added 14 points and five boards. So Luke acknowledged that he had a hand in making the moves by being vocal about the Mavs need to upgrade the roster. He said the following. You can see how important it is. You can see the impact that they have. So I think it's really important. But y'all ask you, like, how important is it for superstars to be vocal
Starting point is 01:04:25 and have a role in front office decisions? I mean, if you're the superstar and winning falls on your shoulders, you know, because that's what people are judging you off of, right? You know, how far can you go in the playoffs? Have you won a championship? So, you know, having right pieces that that helps you be successful is your responsibility you know if you're a guy that's quiet you don't say anything and they keep just bringing anybody in that has nothing to
Starting point is 01:04:56 do with you know your game or match your game and you guys are clash and it's it falls on you anyway so you know the that you're going to be judging, your legacy is built on wins and losses, then every superstar should say exactly what they want to be successful. And you've been in that position before. Was the front office talking to you about moves or decisions they were going to make? How much were they actually listening to you when you might have lobbied for guys or said, hey, we need to trade for this dude or sign this dude? And just how did it make you feel when they were supportive and how did it make you feel
Starting point is 01:05:30 when they were unsupportive of those? Brother, I was a franchise guy, not the franchise guy. Right? There's different levels of... Yeah, please explain. There's levels of... Please explain. Who's the best player in Houston? Right? There's the best player in Houston? Right?
Starting point is 01:05:48 There's the best player in Houston, right? There's the best player in Houston. There's the best player in Portland. There's the best player in Utah. Right? Right? You're the best player, but you're not them. That can say what you want.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You're just the best player on that team there. I was young, so I wasn't, I didn't hit the caliber yet to be demanding who the fuck I'm playing with, right? And that's what I mean. There's a number one guy on every team. There's levels. Yeah, so I wasn't at that level yet.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I was at the level where, hey, can we stay in Miami a little bit longer? I was at that level. You know what I mean? Instead of going to Memphis, we're going to stay in Miami a couple more days
Starting point is 01:06:39 before we go to Memphis. That was my level. That's important. You know what I mean? So we got an audience question. Yeah, so I wanted to ask about Grant Williams being traded away from the Mavs at the trade deadline. They said that he rubbed Luka the wrong way. And then after the Hornets won on Saturday, he said, quote,
Starting point is 01:06:58 it's great to get a win for the city and play for the jersey that's across your chest, not on your back. Everybody touched the ball. We trusted one another. What do you think about Grant Williams and his disconnect with potentially Luka? I mean, damn. There's also the clip of Grant Williams on the bench with Kyrie doing some shit and Kyrie just looking at him like,
Starting point is 01:07:19 okay, wait to get your ass out of here. I mean, so he was just that guy that everybody wanted going. I mean, I he was just that guy that everybody wanted to go on. I mean, I don't know. See, that's this new basketball where everyone feel that they all need to touch the ball. J. Kidd is coaching Luka. They play exactly how it's supposed to be played. Grant Williams, you never really supposed to touch the ball like that.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Like, that's just not in the cards. In Boston, he had the ball a lot. That's the problem just not, that's just not in the cards. In Boston, he was, he had the ball a lot. That's the problem. And that's why they never was successful. Like, you know, 99.9% of the time, it's supposed to be
Starting point is 01:07:54 in your best player's hands. And if he do pass it, if you don't have a wide open shot, get that shit back to where it came from. It's like, ah, ah, ah. They did combine for 82, though.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Return to sender. Return to sender. They combined for that 82 when Luka had 73. I'm just saying it's just one of those things where, you know, I think, you know, some of these players and these teams, they got so used to just, we supposed to take 53s and they get a shot and they they sitting there shooting it like yo dude relax I really you have four points a game you shot seven threes okay hope that only math math right so just cuz they want us to shoot 43 they don't mean you shoot any of them you might get one off or something but the other three or the other sevens go between us two right here. And that's how Luka and Kyrie play.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Luka, Kyrie, and Junior. That's it. The rest of y'all get in where you fit in. I was surprised that he didn't figure it out. I mean, he played with Tatum and Brown. Those are two very ball-dominant guards. So the fact that he came over to Luka and Kyrie and was like, everyone don't touch the ball,
Starting point is 01:09:09 I was, like, just a little surprised he felt that way. Let that money go to his head. That's all. Probably. Probably to it. Thought he was more important than he is. That's what it is. Yeah, because you still got to conduct yourself in a way
Starting point is 01:09:23 when you go to a new team, no matter how much money you're making, you're still the new guy. You ain't good like that. Like, I mean, you're a 6'4 power forward. I mean, with no offense ability. I mean, what is your value? Like, your value is off if we like you. Right?
Starting point is 01:09:42 I mean, right now, if they put you and PJ Tucker together and say, all right, you can only pick one, I'm pretty sure everyone's going to go with PJ Tucker. PJ Washington? No. PJ Tucker. Okay. Right? Six full power forwards.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I'm going to go with PJ Tucker. Where's PJ Tucker at right now? Clippers. Rotten. Graveyard. Graveyard. Puffing snake dishes on IG. Yeah, that man tried to buy himself out. Clippers riding right there. Oh great. You're posting Sneak disses on high G and I mean try to buy himself out
Starting point is 01:10:15 I'm a shit is by our cause. Yeah, I got a good How much the check I got a right to get out of here man I need to go somewhere. I can't just run up and down like you know, I'm talking Monopoly in jail and shit. What you got to do? You got to pay $200, you got to roll double or you... The thing is, Greenwood is getting more touches this season with the Mavs. I think it was averaging a career high too. Career high what? Points.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Which was how many? Four. Oh, eight. You averaging eight? Man. You saying they touched the ball over here? See that just shut up. We passed the ball around a lot more around here.
Starting point is 01:10:55 You averaging eight. And that deep one. Y'all won 12 games. No, let's stop it. Someone said Grant six, seven? Well, he played like he's six five. He's like six five. No, he's six three.
Starting point is 01:11:03 He's six three? Damn. Six seven here. Someone said grant six seven. Well, he play like he's six five. He's like six five He's six three damn six seven. I said six four you did or five you say six three just Let's just say he's not Power forward height. How about that? Yeah any average eight? He's not the position. He's supposed to be playing He's supposed to y'all know Shay is bigger than him Lucas big Like the point guard lamellos bigger than him
Starting point is 01:11:30 Let's just let's go go there right quick listen at 6 6 oh so I respect them 6 6 as you guys know you get the Physical you could change the height on there Charles listed at 6 6 Barkley yeah, but I'm saying Was that little mellow Barclay. Yeah, but I've seen him. He's a good player. He's playing shoes though. What's on TV with him that made him look real short? What you talking about you playing shoes? Was that Lil Mello? Who, with Barclay? That's the Charles Barclay.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Shit. Oh no, it was Luka. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Luka, yeah. Charles Barclay looked tiny next to him. When you see all them dudes stand up. Yeah. Damn, damn, Sean.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Ooh, you about six foot four both ways. This and this and this. About six foot faux both ways You talk about your time where Got the same dimension SpongeBob SquarePants We're not talking about you Charles Talking about Charles himself. We just talking about you, Charles. No money saving on the show, guys. We're not talking about Charles himself. We're just talking about the idea.
Starting point is 01:12:32 This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GIL. That will match your first deposit up to $100. I just felt like a good moment to remind you guys to help support Underdog Fantasy. Oh, shit. But, Gil, during your time at the Woods, you talk about the relationship you have within owner A. Pullman, right, and your ability now just to go directly to him
Starting point is 01:12:49 to get things done. Do stars need to foster those relationships more with owners so they can supersede and go above the front office? I mean, if you're a businessman, if you're talking about brands and you are a brand, you want the relationship with the man who write that check, right? You know, you want to get through all the red tape. Like, I ain't got time to be negotiating.
Starting point is 01:13:13 I want to talk to him over there. Hey, how you doing? How's the wife? How's the kid? Oh, good, good, good, good. What you doing Tuesday? And that's where the relationship is. That's the guy who gives the okay, right?
Starting point is 01:13:29 No matter what relationship you have with the general manager, the dude that write the check is the man that write the check, right? You just number cruncher. You got this. So if your relationship with the guy who write the check is solid, then there's really nothing stopping you from getting to where you need to get to. Obviously, Mark Cuban is still running basketball operations and sold the Mavs, but it seems like that's the relationship I want to have more than with the GM.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Like, yo, give me some bodies, Mark. Yeah, but Mark Cuban different, though. Yeah, he was always involved. We don't even know who the general manager is. Yeah, who was, yeah. Nobody remember who the general manager is there under Mark Cuban different though. Yeah, he was always- He always- Yeah. We don't even know who the, who was the general manager? Yeah, who, yeah. Nobody remember who the general manager there under- Under Mark Cuban. Under Mark Cuban, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Nico Harrison. Nico? That's now. Shit, Mike, that's Neek? Well, Nico is now, we're talking about before. Back in the day, yeah. Nico's the man, that's the deal. He's the man.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, Nico is, yeah. But yeah, you say that's the man. He's the man. Yeah, Nico is, yeah. But yeah, you say that's the move. But how tough is it when you've got an owner who maybe isn't in line and in touch with the team like a Cuban is, that don't really know what the fuck's going on? That's frustrating. That's the other side of it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I mean, you mean like the hoes at NBA, the Clippers? Hm? The before? Oh, Donald Sterling, yes. Yeah, your coach, right? That was your coach? I mean, your owner back then. Yeah, he was the owner.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's insane. He owned the team. Yeah, yeah. See, that was the owner who didn't really understand. Yes, and he didn't want to pay for athletic tape. Like, my pop played with him in the 80s. They were practicing at the YMCA.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Marcellus Wiley got mad at me because I called him the hose, right? Because I called him the hose, and he think I called him a hose because they didn't win championships. All of a sudden, I call you a hose because they was treating that team like a hoe house, right? I draft you, get a little bit in, and get you on about your way. Three years. Three years, right? Every guy they drafted, no matter what, three years, going on. Three years, leave you wet.
Starting point is 01:15:27 They weren't picking up no player option for the fourth year, none of that shit. I got to pay you. Three years and gone. Your rookie deal? That's what Donald Sterling ran the team. Three years. No matter who you were, the highest paid player was the rookie. Whatever their pick was, or you ever got the number one pick, come on in.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Get on out. He never paid nobody big money so uh it was in the lottery damn every year every year so he got into the whole game he had loaned uh dr jerry buster bread to buy the lakers saw the lakers success they had thought he could do the same thing then realized he actually had to spend money after that trying to build a good team was like nah i can make more bread with a loser well being in being in L.A., that's what I can make. But that's what I'm saying. That's why the hoes, right?
Starting point is 01:16:07 When you look and type in worst sports franchises in North America in the last 30 years, Clippers is going to be number one. Hoes. And they've been great for the last 10 years, 12 years. When did you step down, Donald Sterling? How long ago was that? 2014, maybe.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Was it a 14 playoff? Yeah, something like that. Yeah. I mean, obviously there's a... Shout out V. Stevie. I mean, they got a new owner, but the stench is still there. I mean, there's nothing you can do. You're the only NBA franchise that don't have your own arena.
Starting point is 01:16:46 That means you got to sleep in somebody else's bed. Where you been, man? Oh! They got the Intuit Dome coming. When? Next season. So this year, what are you? This year, what are you? Oh! You're staying a squad. Women of the night.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Staying in my bed. A lot of people don't understand about that sale was that his wife still got tickets, still got to be a part of the team, so you're never quite going to get rid of that stench. She was doing a lot of foul shit as well. What did Drake say? No matter if you clean up for IG. Oh, no, no. That was, what's the name?
Starting point is 01:17:20 What's that? You can clean up for IG, but the stench is still on it? Yeah, I'm a square. No matter what you do with the clippers, you still smell them. So keeping this thing moving, we have to talk about LeBron's past that wasn't a past that might actually have been a past. Did he get a assist for it? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:42 He did not. He did not. So this has become the basketball version of the blue dress, white dress debate. So that's one angle, Gil, but then you look at it from this angle. His face said it wasn't. So it was initially ruled an assist. Was quickly changed. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:17:55 His face said it wasn't an assist. Palin, can we see that one more time, please? I'm sorry? I'll give you both angles. So from this angle, it looks like a dime. You missed it. Are you sure? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:03 His face said it's not an assist. Yeah. But I thought he was just trying to. His face said it's not an assist. Yeah. But I thought he was just trying to fake out Eric Gordon. No, not a chance. You drop a dime like that, nigga, you're going to be like, you're going to do some shit like he be doing. Like, hold on, man.
Starting point is 01:18:15 His reaction said it wasn't. But he like, his right hand like kind of. Watch his reaction though. I know the reaction. But he's just trying to sell it to Eric Gordon. Like, oh. That's what I to sell it to Aaron Gordon. Oh That's I said it look like it he thought the ball went up. I thought I mean, I'm yeah It looked like he's like, oh shit that I missed throw it somewhere But it didn't look like he followed through with the pattern look at his reaction
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yo first angle look like you if he drop a dime like that, you know, they go celebrate it Yeah, I don't think yeah But I mean they don't Mean I thought it looked like he thought it shit was somewhere else, but he dropped Mr. Ball he thought it would just look at it. You don't get an assist for that. No. Yeah, you do the ball touch my hands He didn't pass. That's the argument. I, Gil, but I'm a LeBron stan. What is the definition of pass? The ball touched my hands, so that is an assist. So who gets the assist?
Starting point is 01:19:09 Nobody. Nobody. It's a loose ball. It's a loose ball. That's what was baffling to me, though, because even if you want to say fumble it or he didn't. Both his hands. It still had the same.
Starting point is 01:19:19 As long as it touched my hand, it should be an assist. So would you want the turnover if the bitch went out of bounds? He would have got the turnover if it went out of bounds. It would have been the person who threw it. The person who threw it would have got a turnover. For missing the pass? But let me hear my question. Ball doesn't touch my hands.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Ball hits his hands, it goes in the basket. He gets two points. Who gets the two points? He does. This is the same thing. He gets the two points, and the guy who passes will get the assist. I know someone betting on that game was sick about that.
Starting point is 01:19:48 His reaction said it was a mistake. I know, I mean, okay, let's say a mistake, but the fact that it touched his hand last, it should be an assist, right? Granted that they give motherfuckers two dribbles when they throw it to him now, and that's an assist. Two dribbles and a motherfucking move. That's an assist. I watched that shit the other day
Starting point is 01:20:05 and I thought about you. I didn't know that. I watched this shit in real time. Motherfucker threw the bitch up. He took two dribbles going to the basket and motherfucker, like, I'm like, come on, man. It used to be one dribble.
Starting point is 01:20:16 What was the criteria for assists back when y'all were playing? Okay, so it's supposed to be lead to a shot. Okay. Right? So if I pass it to you and you shot it or dribble one and shot it, then yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:28 But now you'll see a pass go up, they'll catch it, hit a dude with a crossover, a spin, get to the basket, year old to the basket. And they'll still credit that as an assist. Right, dude, you just did three moves after I threw you the ball. And that's what I'll be like, and this is what makes me value, like, someone like Magic in them, right? And I'm like, well, damn, if you averaged 15 assists, 13 assists with one dribble and you had to score, what the fuck would you average today? Like 20.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You know, so I do have to fight with myself on numbers like that. Like, if y'all was getting assists when you, nigga, you got getting assists when you knew you gotta shoot and now you get I'm like man it had like damn when it was I tweeted I was like you get two dribbles for an assist yeah it was it was on my ass. I'm Sorry, I didn't know that was the thing. It's never been a thing. I'm very active on the underdog fantasy I do do assist pick up sometimes. It's always refreshing for me to watch me. I wasn't a dime didn't look Oh, it was there we go Then at home it kind of weird if you ever you ever looked at somebody's home assist or somebody's way assist somebody
Starting point is 01:21:43 Yeah, it's crazy. It's like Steve Nash 15 17 at home. Yeah, somebody. Yeah, that shit is crazy. It was like Steve Nash, 15, 17. At home. Yeah, yeah, nine and seven on the road. Eagle out, 11, like damn. Somebody needed a triple-double. Karl-Anthony Towns needed a triple-double recently. Was it him or somebody? And it was a bullshit pass.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I'm like, come on, man. Like, he hunted the ball out and made shit. It was like, dude made two dribble. I'm like, come on, man. Like, he hunted the ball out and made shit. Like, dude made two drips. I'm like, come on, man. And he getting assists on that. I ain't gonna lie. If I'm a scorekeeper, I, listen. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Because if I'm a scorekeeper at all, I'm sorry, man. But, you know what I mean? It's just some things that, you, you know my guy over here got 60 and then The hell you got eight points for you'll need all eight of these You'll be all right. Let me go ahead. Let me go ahead take four of you and now you got 64 Nobody gonna complain about this that's high school stat keeping it in this Yes five I
Starting point is 01:23:00 Gave to him I Had a teammate one time he was checking the box. He's like, who stole my assist? I ain't gave you two of mine. So for what it's worth, LeBron hopped on Twitter to let it be known that he actually meant to tip that ball to AD. He tweeted the following. He said, after all this time, I'm still proving them wrong. I mean, you would think they know by now, but you know when it comes to me.
Starting point is 01:23:24 The tweet also included a video of some of LeBron's greatest passes, including other passes that look like they may or may not have been accidental. We're going to do a game of Facts or Caps. Cap! We're doing a game of Facts or Caps. LeBron intentionally
Starting point is 01:23:40 tipped that pass to AD, Facts or Cap. King, we already got your response. Cap. Because your reaction told me that you didn't mean to do that, dog. Great actor, though. Train wreck, space jam. I'm just... We're talking about someone that celebrates a lot of shit that he does
Starting point is 01:23:55 out there. He is his biggest fucking cheerleader. Rightfully so. He's great at the game of basketball, but that was a fucking accident, bro. Let's stop it. It touched my head. It was on purpose. You got a fact from me? You see me do this? When it goes after that? On purpose.
Starting point is 01:24:11 On purpose. Cap, for sure. Yeah. You say Cap, Lexi. Yeah. Why? You're Sparks. Sparks and Lakers got a team up. Because her eyes ain't, she ain't believe in what y'all saying. She literally believe in her eyes.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And his reaction was that, oh, shit. Was it a blue dress or was it a white dress? That'll tell me everything. I don't even remember. I think I saw white. Oh, okay. That dress, the colored one that was confusing everybody back then? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I think I saw a white dress. Okay. I don't know, but him going on Twitter to double down kind of was like, all right. And I was wondering when it happened. I'm like, Dan LeBron's probably gonna have to hop on Twitter. He did? And he's gonna say yay or nay. I was just wondering, like, all right, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:55 too many people were talking about it, because I had put up... It's not like he said it then. Y'all know me. Yeah. But you know me, God damn it. But y'all know what I do. I can't believe y'all still challenge me by now.
Starting point is 01:25:03 But he basically quote-tweeted... Over an assist. Like, it wasn y'all still challenge me by now. But he basically quote tweeted. Over an assist. Like, it wasn't like a shot or a buzzer. He quote tweeted a video from LBJ History that started with that play and basically said it was intentional and then showed a bunch of other assists that LeBron's had throughout his career. So he was more or less validating.
Starting point is 01:25:19 But he has had some dimes throughout his career, absolutely. But that was not one of them. So the dress was black or blue, so she's seen white. It was blue or white. It says black or blue. The dress was black and blue or it was white and gold. Oh, yeah, white and gold. The two options.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I think I saw white and gold. I have never seen white and gold. I've only seen blue the whole time. What is this? What are we? What is the? I'm just asking. Is there something wrong with people's brains if they see yeah, some people saw LeBron pass
Starting point is 01:25:47 Some people said it was an accident. Have you seen white and gold? What does that mean? Are you trusting the chat to give you a I got 20 20 vision are you trusting the chat to give you an honest assessment? Ooh. What did they say? Just call your local doctor is what they're saying. I got perfect vision. Come on now. So when it comes to LeBron intentionally diming AD. Stop the cap.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I will have you know that our chat came through very fine, studious people, understand the game, understood what LeBron was trying to accomplish. Fifty-five percent said it was a pass. Forty-five percent said not a pass chat. It wasn't on purpose. So like technically it was a pass, but did he mean to do it? No. We don't know. Still a pass.
Starting point is 01:26:44 We got a lot of New Yorkers on the chat, so we had a lot of Timberland booty emojis the other day. His reaction told me otherwise. He looked fucking up. The fuck did the ball go? He was faking out Aaron Gordon. Yeah, he's old shit. For those familiar with LeBron's acting skills
Starting point is 01:27:01 in Trainwreck, Space Jam 2, I thought he was just selling the play. I loved him in Trainwreck. You know, quality acting. He acting skills in Trainwreck, Space Jam 2, I thought he was just selling the play. I loved him in Trainwreck. You know, quality acting. He was great in Trainwreck. House party, you know, left some things to be desired. But let's head back east, talk a little bit about these Bucs. Doc Rivers here in Milwaukee hasn't given Bucs fans much reason for optimism
Starting point is 01:27:21 after the team's 2-5 start. But landing Pat Bev at the trade deadline should help make the team better as they make their push to the playoffs. So on his podcast recently, Bev broke down the trade. And Woody was told by Sixers president Daryl Morey. And then what actually happened? So we playing in Denver, and I hit Daryl Morey with the, Hey, I'm getting traded.
Starting point is 01:27:45 You know. No, not you. Hey, I'm getting traded. You know. No, not you. No, of course not. So he's a liar. But you got to think, you feel me? Like, you know, it's probably a bigger move
Starting point is 01:28:02 that's about to happen. You know, uncertainty. You know, you want to win right now. You know, a player like me bigger move that's about to happen. The uncertainty of, you know, you want to win right now. You know, a player like me, I want to win right now. So, man, I get a chance to be with Doc, too. And my coach Rex. Ooh, it's lit. It's lit.
Starting point is 01:28:16 It's lit. I can't wait. I love this era of athletes. Yeah, a lot of people frown on athletes doing their own podcast. I really appreciate it. It's been out in doing their own podcast. I really appreciate it. He tweeted out his own trade news. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Amazing. He broke the story. They did the whole, the scoreboard. He was on there with Wolde and Sean. So Daryl more acknowledged
Starting point is 01:28:35 that the conversation did happen, but he saw Pat Bez minutes declining and wanted to give him a chance to play a bigger role. That was his
Starting point is 01:28:41 way of salvaging that. Wait, how was that salvaging? Basically saying, I told you I wasn't going to trade you, but then I really thought about it and I wanted you to have a better opportunity, so I had to change my mind.
Starting point is 01:28:51 A better opportunity to do good. I had to change my mind an hour later. Okay, good job. I hadn't gotten the text back yet, so I didn't know if it was going to go through or not. So what do you guys think about Pat Babb's comments about Maury and does the basketball world owe Harden an apology for putting Maury on blast
Starting point is 01:29:07 this summer When it comes to Pat Bev, I mean, you know it shows you like Cuz Norris said the same thing right Told him I don't know we're not gonna trade you, and then they traded you. You know, so obviously a business is a business. You can't take what they gonna say worth a grain of salt.
Starting point is 01:29:35 And that's just the irony of it, right? No matter what happens, how they treat you, when you start taking your career in your own hands, they're gonna look and frown upon you. If you ask for a trade, you the bad guy. If they tell you, no, we're not going to trade you, you tell your family, we're not getting traded, then your ass is out of there.
Starting point is 01:29:58 It's okay. It's all in fair play. I think that Pat Bev don't care because he went into a better situation. So with himself, it's like, okay. and beads down, shit, we ain't winning, and then you trade me the bucks to give me a chance to try to win the championship? Fuck yeah. So to him, this is a positive for someone like him because he's in a better situation when it comes to the opportunity of trying to win a championship. I like the fact that he said, yeah, I get to play with Doc,
Starting point is 01:30:25 which he's the first person that's happy to play with Doc. But then he said, my coach Rex, right? So Doc ain't your coach? Yeah, I'm getting to play with Doc. But I get to play with my coach Rex. So whoever who he's talking about is there, he's more excited about playing and playing for that guy than it was Mr. Glenn.
Starting point is 01:30:45 So we'll still see what's going on with the Sixers, the Embiid situation, whether he comes back and plays. Man, that shit's old. But I'm asking you, Gil, is the Bucs situation a better situation than the Sixers situation? For Pat Bev? For Pat Bev? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:58 And we'd be talking about. Who's going to advance further in the playoffs? Pat Bev is going to go out there and play defense. At least he'll do. So we talked about Pat Bev having experience with Doc Rivers. They spent three seasons together with the Clippers. Pat is already showing how comfortable he is with the Bucs
Starting point is 01:31:15 new head coach and the team. There was a clip surfaced last week. Him barking at him on the clipboard. I'm the captain now. It's like he's been here for five months already Doc give me that you're not a coach. So let me show you You know, that's... Flipboard. Get the flipboard. He took that shit.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Doc said, here you go. Give me the shit. You don't know what you're doing. You know, just like the old days. Give me this shit. So we going... You're supposed to be down. But let's talk about just the other side of it. How much would you like it if someone was barking at you
Starting point is 01:32:00 after being on the team for less than 36 hours? Be like, boy, shut up. Well, you just got here. I mean, whatever the intent, I mean, it's the intentions, right? I mean, you know, players respect intentions. If you're trying to, if you're telling me that this is where I need to be or something,
Starting point is 01:32:14 I'm going to look, right? And, you know, even if I don't fuck with you as a player, I'm going to look and see what you're talking about and I might wave that shit off and then really think about, okay, this makes sense, and not give you the credit for giving it to me, but I might do it. Other than that, for the most part, man, unless you're just a dude that just don't listen hard-headed, really think you above everybody, for the most part, we listen to what each
Starting point is 01:32:42 other's saying. Even if we don't apply it or we pretend we ain't listening to the shit, we hear you. Kenny, how would you feel if you were in that situation? No, his intent is always to help. Whether you're long-term, short-term, I'm pretty sure what he was telling Brooke Lopez in that moment Could have been beneficial to him. What is something that he saw? Get a different Point of vantage point when you sit on the bench you get to see certain things so Yeah, I'm feels what it is man. He's
Starting point is 01:33:23 Pat has been vocal in every place. He's been Brooke Lopez knows he's been around the NBA just as long, so he knows, he has a fucking television. I'm pretty sure. So, and so he, and Pat is who he is, man. So you either, either you gonna love him or he gonna rub you the wrong way. Just wondering, there's no in-between with that. And that'd be a problem
Starting point is 01:33:46 for just hoopers. If he rubs you the wrong way, we look at you like, so you don't learn. Because it's not like he's telling you something that's going against, it's going against,
Starting point is 01:33:57 like it's putting you in some type of danger. It's not like he's saying, yo, we're going to go to the club and get drunk. Dude, he's telling you, like he's trying to, even if it's, he's trying to guide you
Starting point is 01:34:07 and make you a little bit better. Dude, certain shit, like, he gone now. I can say, KJ told me, nigga, ask KJ why he ain't run to the scores table. Like, dude, you're the only person that do that, Pat. Doing the regular, it ain't like he hurry up and called your name. Right, anytime he call your name,
Starting point is 01:34:24 you run to the score table. Yeah, yeah. You're the only person in the NBA that does that. That's more high school. Ain't nobody fucking running to the score. Like, if it's a hurry up situation, hurry up and go in, then yeah, I'm going to run. Of course. Like, quick time.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Oh, shit. Yeah, go. Okay, I would get why he would say that because think about his position where he's coming from. I understand it. He's not coming from the number one pick where you can walk your way. No, but I get it. No,
Starting point is 01:34:48 but I'm just, I've never seen people. Pat is Beverly. The only person that I've ever seen and watching the game that every single time his name is called. Because it's the, it's the illusion of like, think about the, I'm excited to go in.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Yeah. He's playing the, he's playing the game within the game. I understand that. He's telling KJ Look when they call your name you look it ain't like he giving him a fuck you stroll I just like okay. I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna do my but I'm saying like from him like I'm still like so Okay, they got it. So he sold on with the KJ defense. Okay, you gotta run
Starting point is 01:35:18 Stop me get his mouthpiece But that's what he's thinking he's saying like saying like when you look like you ready to go in, to them it looks like, oh, shit, he ready to go on in. It's the illusion. I get that. I understand that. But like to my point that Patrick Beavitt is the only person in the NBA that does it consistently, right?
Starting point is 01:35:42 Whether it's a quick situation or not. His time, he just, that's, ain't nobody else doing it. Has he ran to the score table yet? Huh? KJ?
Starting point is 01:35:51 Did you hear what I just said? There's 400, there's 450 players in the NBA. He's never, he never hit it. There's only one? There's 450 players
Starting point is 01:35:59 in the NBA. The other, the other 449 guys. What? I've, have you? Not. Seen? No, no, I mean... I'm glad y'all saying that, because they be kind of tweaking on us about that shit,
Starting point is 01:36:13 not running to the score. No, no, no. When I was... When I was... Somebody was like, yo, you run to the table. Like, he said... I used to... When I first...
Starting point is 01:36:21 When I was first starting... You should. One of the players was like, yo, run to the table. Oh, yeah, when you were young. I understand that. I get that. You're trying to get in. I understand that. I get that. You're walking like you've been here before. Like in your situation, I understand that.
Starting point is 01:36:30 I get that. Someone was like, I'll be damned, you want to walk slowly, and then he changed his mind between baton and time. You get there, and you run past him like, phew. Oh, I'm with it. No, I'm not saying that. Listen, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with the way Pat Beverly handles his...
Starting point is 01:36:48 Fine, great. That's who you are. But you can't expect the next person to do that shit. So don't... That's all I'm saying. Like, just because that's who you are, you can't expect somebody who is in year four to, like...
Starting point is 01:37:01 No, he's not a rookie. Like, he's not a rookie. Like, no, he's not... Of course he wants to's not a rookie. Like, no, he's not. Of course he wants to play, absolutely. He's excited about going to the game, absolutely. But you're the only person, so don't try to get me, like, that's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Like, that's your thing, dude. Okay, cool, don't. Do you. Fine, like, I'm not telling you to walk. Like, why do you have a problem with me walking? Because you know, I can come to you, hey, Pat, I think you should walk to the score state. Like, it's the same fucking thing, you know what I'm saying? Like, no, you have a problem with me walking? Because you run. I can come to you, hey, Pat, I think you should walk to the score state. Like, it's the same fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:37:26 You know what I'm saying? Like, no, you police yourself. He probably meant that he did that to himself because he can never walk. People would be like, are you not ready to put up? He ain't. Like, you can police yourself. I'm all with that. If KJ's not doing something else that's detrimental to the team, you correct him, I'm all for it.
Starting point is 01:37:39 If you think you helping him out in the pick and roll or coverage or whatever, cool, I'm all for it. Do what the fuck you do, Pat Bevin. I'm all for it, but don't try to I feel like it was a fire on the other side though if you run it too hard It might look like you undermining the code, you know, you know You just trying to make an ass of the coach trying to spin on the court like that No, but that's this thing don't know he does it every time that's time he's playing the game I get it No, no, no, we're gonna we're gonna just let them play it out. Fuck! Should've got them in.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Hey, man, I saw one of my teammates do that. They called her name, and she was... just... He said, never mind. Oh, yeah, see, if it's that movement, like, if he giving him that... Yeah. Yeah, that's a problem. He said, nah, never mind.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Like, that's a problem. Right? It hurts. Yeah, that's a problem. He said, nah, never mind. Like, that's a problem. Damn, bro. Right? It hurts. For those of us who are... Like, I watched the game, and I just see KJ's reaction to certain things. The camera was on him. I said, what did Pat say to you?
Starting point is 01:38:36 Like, I just saw it. I just saw it, right? And I was like, oh. That's his thing. Okay, cool. Not a problem. That's funny. Pat is going to be who he is.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Yeah, for sure. And that's why he has been in the NBA for as long as he has been. Because he is that. He's that energy. He's that voice that coaches need in the locker room and on the bench and situations like that. I'm pretty sure whatever he was telling me. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Like you said, as long as it comes from a good play. Yeah, like him having him be run extra sprints and all that shit is who he is. I'm with it. It's for the betterment of the unit. But let's talk about the other side of that. Have y'all ever had a player who didn't know what the fuck they were talking about trying to tell y'all that, and you got to look at them with a straight face and act like you're listening to what they're saying?
Starting point is 01:39:21 Sometimes. Coaches. Okay. No, not me. No, like, you know, he's my favorite coach, assistant coach. It was like my first year at Hub. Hub was like, you know, you know, you need to pass the ball around a little bit more. You know, you just get in the game and, you know, as soon as you got in, you took a shot.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And then, you know, you came down past it. Then the next time you came down, took a shot, right? And the problem is I'm three for three, right? So what he's saying, don't register, shit he's saying, he's just talking, talking, I'm like, yeah, yeah. And then reality kicked in. Hey, how much you averaged?
Starting point is 01:39:59 He's like, what do you mean? When you played, how much did you average? He was like, yeah, for your career. It's like a nine. Okay, if I want to average nine, I'll listen to what you're saying, okay? But I don't want to average nine. I want to average like 20-something, okay?
Starting point is 01:40:17 So whatever you're saying, I don't even want to listen to it right now. Right, so if you tell me to pass, I'm going to shoot. I'm going to do the opposite of you, because whatever is going through your brain led to nine. Some assistants really just be trying to say stuff so they can feel like they're doing their job. Like they're doing their job. Absolutely, all the time. But sometimes it's just like, all right, bro.
Starting point is 01:40:39 It was just so weird. But he became my favorite coach. Then just nod. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever have a moment where the assistant or the head coach says something, It was just so weird. I just, but he became my favorite coach because. So then just not. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever have a moment where the assistants or the head coach says something, and you and the assistant both know
Starting point is 01:40:49 that the head coach don't know what the fuck they're talking about? You have to. Is it a look? Is it a just like. Yeah. I don't know what you want me to do. Coach will be like, yeah, you need to go down and do this.
Starting point is 01:40:58 And you look at the assistant coach and be like. Shoot that shit. Shoot that shit. Shoot that shit. These are all things I've been told. Hey, I know coaches be mad, like, coaches be like, all right, break. And then one assistant coach come up to A, so well.
Starting point is 01:41:12 What did you do? And what he say? He ain't say nothing. Look. Not what we talk about. Muff up. That ain't what I call. Quickly, since we're talking about the Bucks, we got to discuss Giannis' big brother doing
Starting point is 01:41:28 work. The Nassus pulled out the Sham Guy on the Hornets after the game took some time to reflect on the play, tweeting, when I move, you move. So just a question for you guys. If the Nassus is... Shout out Ludacris. Hold on. on the plate tweeting, when I move, you move. So just a question for you guys. If the Nassus is... Shout out Ludacris. Hold on, man.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Go do you. Okay. Do you. You got the research. Hold on. What are you looking for? You don't got the notebook no more. Who is that against?
Starting point is 01:41:57 Oh, the Hornets. When I get my 36 points. But if the Nassus is doing the sham god against your team, what does that say about your team? Trash. They ain't got no heart. Shaw don't got no heart anyway. Grant Williams may come in and
Starting point is 01:42:14 he may get a couple lean forward on his head. It'll be one or the other. He been waiting to do those two moves. The sham god and the Steve Smith. He been waiting to do them two. He sham God and the Steve Smith. He's been waiting to do them to eball Don't bitches out together Not like the only thing that makes me laugh with him is It's like when he gets so excited when he gets in, it's like he only wants, it's like,
Starting point is 01:42:46 well, I only play like one minute, 30 seconds, but when I do something, I want to make it SportsCenter. Yes. That's fair. Right? It's like everything we see, every highlight we see him, he's trying some shit. It's not like, he ain't trying to just get regular buckets at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:02 If he gets in, it's SportsCenter time and then it's admirable Honestly, I know That's a low key like when you see the moves he's trying you be sitting there like Yeah Like you just gave me the sham God and went into it, I would have been like, that was dope. But he just ruined it. It's like his package. To be honest, I want to see him actually just play a game
Starting point is 01:43:36 and see what he kind of, let's see if he got something. You want him to start? No, no, no, no, no, no. I want him to play like real game minutes. He always in like that. Like go to him and No, no, no, no, no. I want to play like real game minutes. He always in like a bad time. Go to him and say, hey, listen, hold on. I'm going to put you in. Before you get in, this is
Starting point is 01:43:53 not the end one fucking tour, okay? This ain't the end one tour. You are not Sham Guy. You are none of them. Go out there and just play regular basketball so I can really... Because when I get out there and you get out there and just play regular basketball so I can really, because when I get out there and you get out there
Starting point is 01:44:07 and you sham God and I'm like, oh, here come the circus. You know, that's what it looks like. It's fun. It's fun to us because when he gets in,
Starting point is 01:44:14 he's going to give us. He's going to give you one. He's going to give you one or he's going to try. I just want to see if he actually knows how to play basketball for the most part.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Well, as our producers pointed out, if the Nastas is doing anything versus your team, it means you're either won or lost by 30 plus. What are the other? Facts. I want to put them in a regular game. He's the last person I could be on.
Starting point is 01:44:35 It's like Lance Stevenson. When you get in the game and you get in the game against them, I know you're sitting like, oh, shit. Because you already know they're about to be on demon time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:49 They don't just get a little feel in. Lance is going to be sitting there trying to hit you with some shit, score, hit you with the guitar. It's 30 seconds. You've been here for 42 seconds. 42 seconds. I've been here with three moves. Three celebrations.
Starting point is 01:45:04 She's going to blow my ear a couple times. Yo. God bless Thanasis. That's what I said, there's certain players that you still get it again. You're like, no, not now. Please play this move again, man. Let me see this move.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Not now. Can we see the Thanasis? Not right now, Thanasis. Yep. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Come on, now. Come on, now. I got to not want to go. And then look at this Santa Vista. Right now You're not trading me him Lance Franchise Right,? Jordan Poole.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Jordan Poole, yeah, Jordan Poole. Soon as you get in the game, you be like, come on, don't be on this today. Not today. Just, we got two minutes. Let me get through two minutes. Maybe I'll... You be like, no, come on, man. I didn't warm up for this shit.
Starting point is 01:46:04 And the cameras be ready because they know. I had to guard Moochie Norris. Oh, Moochie Norris. I had to guard Moochie Norris. Got in the game. You know he's coming. Coach told me,
Starting point is 01:46:15 hey, don't jump on his hesitation. He's coming. After I done jumped three times, right? And three, two, one. I'm like, oh, shit, he got a shoot. Yeah. Jump. He just laughed at me.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Rolled the ball. Got the shot clock violation. He purposely got the shot clock violation for me to jump because Coach was like, don't jump. Stay down. Oh you heard it Oh it hit me with it. It's coming He just laughed
Starting point is 01:47:00 That's funny That's I said it's just like every time I see Moochie, like, I'm not. Can someone else guard him? No. He just out here just to embarrass people. Yeah. Shout out to Moochie Norris. Shout out to Thanasis.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Hey, Thanasis is growing on me, man. He's a draw, boy. Thanasis... He's growing on me. And so does Fungus. Oh, Lord. I want to see Thanasis do this move. The round is over.
Starting point is 01:47:23 I want to see Thanasis do this move. The round is over. I want to see Thanasis do this move. The round is over. I want to see Thanasis do this move. I'm just throwing on me and so does fungus I want to see this I want to see tenacity do this move around the world like you come in and then throw them Yeah, if you might try if you hit some air once you take the Jersey off you can't do that one But the round around it all but around the body if he pulled one of those out I gots to get to here at the NASA jersey. On the old school, act like you're going to pass to him. Yeah, yeah. That one.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Make a nigga clap. Like, he just got volume one of the N1. He got the Grizzlies. VHS. Hey, brother, look what I'm going to do. If I get in, look what I'm going to do. I wonder if him and Giannis are talking about it. The accent is insane.
Starting point is 01:48:06 He's going to sit there and do one of these. Y'all not going to trade me. The spin on the floor, cross. Oh, this is 99 all over again. Y'all not going to trade me. Y'all not going to weigh me. Hit him with the MJ, gets the bulls in the corner. Hey, you think that's not coming?
Starting point is 01:48:24 I feel like, hey. I love it. He makes you enjoy little moments. I'm not even going to lie. He's the type of person that if somebody's standing there trying to take a charge, he'll try to Vince Carter him in the Olympics. He thinks that way. I'm going to jump over this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Jump over. Hey, JaVale McGee on the fast break. I'm about to jump from the free throw line while he's taking a charge. Yeah, man. I'm becoming a Thanasis fan. He makes me laugh. He makes you laugh. It's like one of those, like, if you're about to lead the game and then Thanasis comes in.
Starting point is 01:49:00 You sit down. You know, hold on, hold on. I got 12 minutes. I got 12 minutes. Let me just. Well, let's talk some serious basketball. AD pulled up the D-Loves podcast and
Starting point is 01:49:11 broke down the defensive approach to trying to break a team's will as early as possible in a game. You can really break a team in the first quarter by showing them, like, nah, we can't score. We scored 12 points in the first quarter. These things got 42, man. It's over for us. It's over, nah, we can't score. We scored 12 points in the first quarter. These things got 42, man.
Starting point is 01:49:26 It's over for us. Only last night, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, it's over for us. We can't score. So that breaks the team then just going back and forth because now if you start missing and this team don't, you can lose. But if we locking up, it's always going to be a game. Always.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Okay, you're a resident defensive expert. What are your thoughts on what AD is saying? Probably not seeing a lot of it from the Lakers this season, but. Well, first and foremost, he ain't going to be able to play no D. They don't get him a bigger fucking chair. Let's start there. His fucking knees up to this. Sitting in that bitch's knees like this.
Starting point is 01:50:00 But let's start there. That is an issue with tall people doing podcasts. The studio is not really equipped for that. Let's start there but uh Thank you Gil for these nice pleasure absolutely Yeah now view This DNA is different but now if you locked in defensively in a playoff game and you, a team normally scoring, what they scoring, 115, 116 a night, and you hold them to 90, like low 90s,
Starting point is 01:50:37 yeah, you locked in defensively. So, yeah, you can take teams out of sets. You can take certain guys away that makes it impossible for the rest of the guys to be successful because they're not used to it. But, yeah, taking you out of— Let me keep that thought. I'm curious to hear, but I'll ask you after the show. No, it's— who is doing that these days
Starting point is 01:51:05 is taking teams' will defensively. I don't see it, so them to have that statement and, yeah, they're competing defensively because you have to, but you gotta play both sides of the ball, but I don't, making teams do something different and imposing your will and locking certain guys down and they're not doing it right.
Starting point is 01:51:32 They're not getting their average out of this bitch. That works. I mean, it works both ways. I mean, I remember when, you know, you used to hear about the Bulls and they said, you know, for the most part, Bulls,
Starting point is 01:51:41 they can look at the layup line and they got players watching us and we knew they couldn't win. They knew they couldn't win, so we just had can look at the layup line and they got players watching us. And we knew they couldn't win. They knew they couldn't win, so we just had to get out to a good start and realize that the game was over in the first couple minutes. So there is teams like that. There is players like that where they're so dominant that if they get going early, it takes teams out. You can see it in their face.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Offensively, teams like back when we played USA, Suns, Suns, you sitting here missing shots and they sitting there just boom, boom, boom, boom. It kind of take the spirit away like or you sit there and you playing real defense and they getting shots and making shots um you know even a even a good defensive team you got a good defensive team and a good defensive player and no matter what he do you scoring he gets fucked up the team gets fucked up like y'all playing a1 defense and dudes still scoring on us and that you know You can lose the first quarter where you put now we trapping them as this and that and that and he just scoring that will y'all
Starting point is 01:52:52 Start looking at each other what we gonna do now You know mess the team, you know chemistry of like Golden State I'm pretty sure when Golden State was going 73 and 9 majority of a majority of them winning those games They did that in the warm-up line All they had to do is hit three, four threes in a row, game over. You'd be sitting there like, mwah. Think about when they was coming back, right? But you would see them down 20, down 25.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Blazers. I'm pretty sure when the Blazers realized that they lost two games when they were up 20 and Golden State came back, what you think was going through their mind when they was up 20? Oh, yeah, it's coming in play hit few threes. Oh Yes, absolutely Here we go again Detroit Pistons, right? No matter what they was up When that last five minutes kicked in and they started making a run. It was the mental part. Oh Shit, we lost here we go god damn it we lost before they even lost the game you know the game even the last one when they broke it they
Starting point is 01:53:52 damn near lost that game because mentally they was already fucked up so what he's saying is a it's a real thing sometimes i'm pretty sure anybody who fought against mike tyson yeah shit for that that that eight weeks you was getting ready to fight against him. You know, shit, we all lost. You see that first punch combo. No, you out there, that first swing, oh shit. Everybody got a game plan. Take this motherfucker off.
Starting point is 01:54:17 Until you get punched in the face. Yes. Yeah. Like Mike said, everybody got a game plan until you get punched in the face. I mean, did you, I be thinking this right? There's just some men in this world. They just you like everybody who fought Mike Tyson Let's just say you still alive because the gloves the glove thickness was perfect
Starting point is 01:54:41 Perfect cuz some of them punches he was throwing, and you see the power, the power he was coming with. Like, yo, you'd be dead in real life if he didn't have no glove on. Go ask Mitch Green. Your whole head just, like, I was sitting there, whoo. But there's just some people that you just be like, oh, this just shouldn't be a lot of people in certain sports. And somebody was like, yeah, you would have been heavyweight like He punched him without a glove on and I was probably just one of those punched him without a glove
Starting point is 01:55:19 Not one of them. I broke all this tournament. No pirate broke all this. Yes He knows orbital bones like one punch And that was probably just him. I'm talking about that one. I'm talking about that one. He got on Mike's sissy. When Mike touched, he punched. And that uppercut, ooh, Lord Jesus. Trust me, I saw him, listen, we was at a fight. I was at a fight a couple years ago, and Mike was sitting right here.
Starting point is 01:55:37 And some dudes at the fight was just being rambunctious and shit behind Mike. Nigga, Mike, hey, mothers, you better sit. I said, I think y'all sit down I'm not gonna grab him If he's starting this bitch a good look boxers and football players Yeah
Starting point is 01:55:56 No, I mean I mean just any of that just that that world that world of fight and I don't give a shit what they sound like When they come. Just know at any moment, flashback can happen on your ass. Yeah. You meet Mike Tyson in real life, very nice gentleman. Absolutely. Cool, I've seen what he do.
Starting point is 01:56:18 He killed it. I don't give a fuck how nice he is. She heard Jamie Foxx. She said, who Pitbull is that? She said, who? She said, hey, boy, that motherfucker ain't got no leash. Sure. He ain't looking at me there.
Starting point is 01:56:30 He ain't looking at me right now. But if I say something he don't like, whoo, you know the results. We was in the club in Phoenix. He asked Melo to come over. Come talk. We was like, all right. Melo didn't move. He was like, well, we said what?
Starting point is 01:56:48 Said, y'all niggas coming with me. Said, yeah, it's that kind of a thing. Hey, Mike wants you. Mike who? I do got a funny Mike Tyson story. OK, wait. Time out. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Gil, before you share this story, is there going to get any of us any issues if we see Mike Tyson in these streets? He is local in the Los Angeles area. He's out here a lot. It shouldn't, but I'm just, just to, it shouldn't.
Starting point is 01:57:15 But just to show you how afraid regular human beings was. So he was drunk by the bathroom. But he was laying on the floor, but he was laying on the floor, like he was just sitting on the floor of the wall and drunk. And, nope, I can't say it. We'll say it after.
Starting point is 01:57:33 I just thought about it. I just thought about it, because what he was doing was, yeah. Gilbert, I just want to thank you for sparing all of us, because you know you have a tendency sometimes. Let's just say men, they was just looking the other way. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Mike Tyson, if you ever like to come to the arena, please pull up, bring some of those edibles. Give us a read. Give us a read. No. See? No. If he come to me, who said that? I'm pointing right over there.
Starting point is 01:58:10 Well, Gil, it's funny that you say that. Actually, we have a guest in the neighborhood, none other than Iron Mike Tyson. But Lexi, back to this defensive talk just for a second. Is there a time that a defense truly made you feel like you couldn't score? Yeah, every time I played UConn, they just, their scheme. Like, and I was, I don't want to say,
Starting point is 01:58:31 I mean, I was significantly better than a lot of my teammates, so I just like, it was like boxing ones, a lot of trapping, whatever. It was just like suffocating. Yeah. But when a team's like locked in on a plan and they're scoring on the other end,
Starting point is 01:58:41 like that's the other part. You got to get the stops and then you got to go cash out on these stops. Because sometimes you can get stops, you don't cash out on the other end. That's the other part. You got to get the stops and then you got to go cash out on these stops. Because sometimes you can get stops, you don't cash out on the other end. You're like, we're wasting all this energy playing defense. We can't make transition layups.
Starting point is 01:58:53 We can't make open shots. So that was the thing. I never was able to beat UConn in college because they just were so locked in on their defensive game plan and they would always score, like no matter what yeah, that was it was frustrating to play against Can you for yourself obviously high-level defender? But was there ever a time you on the other side of that and you were getting locked up by defense
Starting point is 01:59:17 You just felt like you couldn't score Shit in college should I never be temple Like we played to my three times when I was in school. That beauty, yeah. Were you there when Kevin Law was there? He was a freshman? Yeah, all of this, yeah. Yeah, they had about five bigs. Sanchez Lopez or something like that?
Starting point is 01:59:42 Pepe. Come on, turn that bitch over. We're trapping him, he can turn his back, call a timeout. None of that shit working. They playing that zone on our ass on the other end. But in the league, not one particular person. Had a horrible game, but I was maybe, say, Tim Duncan, maybe. Lent his arm so long.
Starting point is 02:00:14 But other than that, yeah. Team defenses, I don't remember, man. For sure, for sure. A lot of basketball. Yeah. Team defense is way bigger than, like's... For sure, for sure, with us. A lot of basketball. Yeah. Team defense is way bigger than college. For sure. Pros, it's more one-on-one schemes.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And to your point, though, when they lock you up on one side and they get in buckets and you see that lead, and just like, well, shit, we can't even score. Yeah, that shit is... What we getting into tonight? Respect, they playing in Boxing 1, so... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:44 It's a sign of respect. Boxing 1. Yeah. It's a sign of respect. Boxing 1 is opposite? It's a sign of respect. Boxing 1? In college? Yeah. UConn's Boxing 1. Because it was like a two.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Two, two. They just had two. So where'd you stand? I was just running around. I would bring the ball up, just run around. Sometimes I just couldn't get it back, get the ball back. Only UConn. You had no problems with a box of one? Did you get excited when you saw the box of one coming?
Starting point is 02:01:14 No, I just I mean I had a triangle in two The two guys Box alone you just become a screener right you come you become the picker because, obviously, your guy is not designed to leave you. So, you know, if you pick that outside guard, boom, right? Come off, shoot a couple of those, and they try to switch. And then if they do switch and then you backdoor, that guard who wasn't designed to guard you, he lost you, right? It's tough.
Starting point is 02:01:41 They do the triangle and two, and the two are on you, and the rest of your teammates aren't adequate enough to take advantage of that. So now nobody's scoring, but I know. It's tough they do the triangle and two, and the two are on you, and the rest of your teammates aren't adequate enough to take advantage of that. So now nobody's scoring, but I understand. It's a very difficult predicament to beat. Yeah, that shit horrible, man. That triangle and two shit. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:55 We got it. We got that shit. Sit on the baseline. Like, you know, you're the bottom guy on this side. So what I'll do is I'll sit right there. So the guy guarding me and you are sitting right there. Then I'll set a pick, right? Set a pick, let that big go out there.
Starting point is 02:02:11 You go there and follow him, right? Once he catches it, I'll post you up. Bucket! Yeah, see? Yeah. That was a people up. So all I do is just set a pick on the bottom guy, so I just sit right next to him, and they both sit right here cuz they're not in a 2-3
Starting point is 02:02:29 So I make it kind of like a 2-3 and then I set a pick on you and then let my guy Pop out and then now you got to be forced to pop out because my guys not gonna leave me Yeah, and then once you pop out I just take advantage and post up and now it's back to You shoot it yeah, so I used to do office rebound. Yeah, so I just used to do shit You know, I just look to see how they motioned it I just started running off that's when I first started using my stagger screens and stuff because They might have been like in my face, but they weren't ever like quicker than me. Sometimes they were bigger than me So I was just run until I got loose
Starting point is 02:03:04 Play it. I just you just turn it in a man play at the Free throw line right to to you play the free throw catch at the free throw Came to your point as a big man. Sometimes I go ahead. I know y'all you're making shit. This shoot exactly where this ball going Yeah, obviously bad damn it All right, we got one last thing to talk about in the arena. Mostly fan. Not yet, not yet. I'm just playing.
Starting point is 02:03:33 It might be some mostly hands. We'll see what's going on. We have a beef brewing between Mike Epps and Shannon Sharp. During a recent show, Epps went at Unk for trying to bring his name into the conversation during his legendary Cat Williams interview. That nigga Shannon Sharp called me trying to do an interview. I said no my dear, I ain't doing no interview with you. So you can sit across from me and look at my balls, un-sit down nigga. I thought he was going to attack Kat. That nigga there is...
Starting point is 02:04:08 That nigga's shit is called Shay Shay. The nigga's telling you. Put a wig on that nigga and tell me if that ain't motherfucking Madea's sister, nigga. They exposing every motherfucking body. They got T.D. Jakes fucked up. Now that's fucked up. All that money that nigga done got from God, they done came out on him.
Starting point is 02:04:35 So, you know, naturally, Unc was not feeling Epps playing with his name or reputation and offered this response on a recent episode of Nightcap. Say my name again and I'm gonna release the DMs because you're lying. You said I reached out to you to come on Club Shay Shay and you a mofo liar.
Starting point is 02:04:56 Now when I see you, I'm gonna see you, I'm gonna see if you're about that. I'm gonna see if you wanna say what you've been saying, trying to get some jokes because you got mad because Cat Williams did what he did now now when I see you yeah I'm gonna see if you really about that yeah and when I when I when I see him talking all that yeah when it wasn't tight ass leather pants trying to be funny yeah but I'm gonna see if you're about that yeah say
Starting point is 02:05:24 my name again. Now, be like Destiny's Child. They talk about say my name, say my name. I got something for your ass. That was round two. Now, let's move on to round three. Mike Epps, native of Indianapolis, responded to Shannon, pointed out that the All-Star game is in his hometown this weekend if he's really trying to see what's what. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:05:47 I did DM you to get on the show. But I DM'd you to get on the show because you brought my name up when you were sitting there with Cat. He was trying to get him to talk crazy about me, but he didn't. Okay? Now, second of all, talking about pulling up on me, you're going to be an all-star. I'm going to be at the all-star in my hometown.
Starting point is 02:06:14 And I'm going to see you. All right? I'm going to see you, brother. And I'm just letting you know, I don't be doing no fighting lately. I don't do no fighting. So, you know, there's only one other option.
Starting point is 02:06:33 If you don't fight, you do blank, blank, blank, blank, blank, blank. And Ocho, you shut up. You're looking like a whole milk duds sitting there agitating we watched the white boy kick your ass on tv so you shut up and Shay Shay you did look like Madea sitting there you was looking zesty I'm not saying you gay but you was looking zesty you look like Big Freedia sitting there you need need to take them tight-ass shirts off with the muscles. And that's it. This is...
Starting point is 02:07:14 You never really want to go at a high-level comedian like that. Because they don't take it serious. He started serious and he got back into his comedian bag. But it's just a game you're not going to win unless you're adequately prepared. Ocho, like... Yeah, and if I'm there... Yeah, if I'm there,
Starting point is 02:07:32 we're going to get it right. We're going to get it right. The whole time. Ocho didn't know who he was talking about, what he was talking about, but he over there gaslighted. Hey, Ocho's the funniest. I ain't even going to lie. That's the funniest part about gaslighting, hey, Ocho's the funniest. I ain't even gonna lie, that's the funniest.
Starting point is 02:07:46 That's the funniest part about it, because Ocho don't know what's going on. Yeah, oh no, no, we're gonna get him. Huh? Who we talking about? Who we talking about? But you need somebody to ride with you like that. Where we going, what we doing?
Starting point is 02:07:56 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. If you can fight, Ocho is your man that you want in your corner cuz you know He gonna talk you into it. All right, if you can't fight that's the last person you Hyper you up to get your ass whooped out there in them streets, right? This is like now you need somebody with some sensible sense if you can't find a
Starting point is 02:08:19 Relax, right? I know what he said, just relax. Unk, right? He a comedian. It's all fun and games, right? Take it easy. DM him back or something. I had a situation like that in college. One of my teammates hit me like, yo, man, I'm about to fight this dude. Come pull up. So I'm like, all right, jump in the car. My other teammate called me like, you know who you're talking about, right?
Starting point is 02:08:42 It was a dude by the name of monster look On the football team is like 300 pound defensive in Samoan like not one to be trifled with That's yeah, that's it. It was like you are not about to fight you do you talk him out of it? Yeah, I'm not gonna fight a meat like You know, but he made it sound like always about to go down there my other team like yeah You know he about the fight. You got in the cars Malcolm. Yeah, that is Martin. Yeah Over the driving them up by any means necessary we go to mother, you know, he hop out Marlowe the king my brother my brother This was the church day the church way, but you know, we talked about
Starting point is 02:09:31 Let's just be peaceful. All right, we got a color. I like when he said yeah, there's only one other option. Mm-hmm I thought he's gonna say run cuz you know You gotta live here run is the only option that we know how come that you ain't fighting you ain't never We're not talking about this side over here You ain't fighting. You ain't fighting. Never. Let's handle this like it's our office. We're not talking about this side over here. Us? No, thank you. I'm too old to be fighting. I'm out of there. But can you just so you know, when you are with us, okay, it makes us know, okay, we're a little bit more comfortable.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Like, all right. Hold on. I ain't going to let nobody do nothing. We got to keep our head with us. Pull up. Like, when I see you, I'm going to. And I was like. At NBA All-Star Ball Places.
Starting point is 02:10:02 My first thing is try to defuse it. Like, I ain't going to let nothing happen. But if you can't defuse it, then, yeah, we're going to... And I was like... My first thing is try to diffuse it. I ain't going to let nothing happen to me, but if I can't diffuse it, then yeah, we're going to... Meet me at the celebrity game. Like what? Meet me at adequately secure places. First of all, I'm going to tell you, look, I got these issues out here in these streets.
Starting point is 02:10:16 We're going to go to... I'm going to pretend to be tough. Just hold me back. If you think, listen, if you think we're out of trouble, just pull me the fuck out or give me, tap me twice. But I'm going to just go ahead. I ain't going to let them think I'm a punk, even though I'm a punk. Just let me get off a little bit.
Starting point is 02:10:34 And then just go ahead and pull me out. Man, you niggas 50 years old. You niggas ain't fighting nobody. Shut up. You got kids out there, man. I don't know. You ain't fighting nobody. And you got security.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Shannon's a football player. He ain't got all the sense. If they really wanted to fight, they would have had this conversation privately. No, but he called them out publicly, though, so he had to respond publicly. Yeah, calling them out, but if they was really trying to fight,
Starting point is 02:10:55 they would have figured it out. I just got to tell, listen. You got the line. When you come back, when you coming back, you can't say mofo. You got to have a real cuss word. Yeah, yeah. Motherfucker! You gotta like-
Starting point is 02:11:12 Playing with my name, motherfucker. Yeah, you gotta really get out there. You remember Stephen A. Smith? Yeah. You really gotta, you gotta make it- Like Bernie Mac said, God rest his soul. He gonna be right in Club Che Che in a few weeks. Sometimes you got to, hey, it's a word of endearment. You seen that motherfucking Bobby?
Starting point is 02:11:30 He owe me 20 motherfucking dollars. You got to, yeah. You got to, come on. He ain't gave me my motherfucking money yet. As you know, entertainment similar to wrestling, following WWE model Lexi to your point. I can see Micah pulling up to Club Che Che. He's right in Club Che Che, drinking his little drink, spilling some more tea.
Starting point is 02:11:47 A little porty, yeah. When they said, oh, he responded, I was like, okay, that mofo. I'm like, come on. No, Wong. Oh. Boo. Boo. I know what you feel inside, but you got to let it outside to deter.
Starting point is 02:12:01 To deter. We got to deter these days. Yeah, I don't mean to take shots at the man, but like, Monty Williams, like, I understand you don't... Sometimes it just... You motherfuckers suck. You gotta say it sometimes.
Starting point is 02:12:15 Sometimes you just gotta say shit that day. Excuse me, Lord. He apologized. Like Stephen A said, I had to go to my pastor. I had to pray before. Listen, because you're not going to recognize this person. Yeah, go to your... Yeah, go get that. Go get
Starting point is 02:12:32 that motherfucker. You see the pastor said, go get that motherfucker. Sometimes you just got to do it. Bless you. Put a little holy water on your forehead. Dab you up. What? Dab you up. You know what I'm saying? Alright, do what you got to do. Put this in your pocket. You know what I'm saying? All right, do what you got to do. Put this in your pocket.
Starting point is 02:12:48 You know what I'm saying? Let's move on to our last segment of the day, Mostly Fans. Gil's favorite part of the show. Yeah, you do like Mostly Fans. It's growing on you. It is. As always, drop a question in the chat with your underdog fantasy username. I want some ratchets in.
Starting point is 02:13:05 I know there's a whole bunch of ratchet questions in there. We should go through and pick them. We have been. You should go through and pick them. You know they're not going to give me that type of power. This is your show. You can do what you want. You don't have to.
Starting point is 02:13:16 It's your show. It's your type of power. You can do what you want. It's your show. We will always have the conversation with you beforehand just so you know what the long-term ramifications are for each decision But ultimately at the end of the day if you want to do it we do it and we just live with this Knowing that there's a lot of places that we can
Starting point is 02:13:34 Was looking at his uh, he was thinking about his YouTube his YouTube he won their strike Basketball question have you ever seen a situation during the game? Yeah, he didn't want that strike. Oh, yeah, we got to return to our first question. Hold on, Hooper. I got a basketball question. Have you ever seen a situation during a game where two players get into it, they kick one of them out, the other players stay in, but they don't shoot no free throws? They both get technicals? Nothing was called.
Starting point is 02:14:03 I don't know. But they kicked one kid out. They both get technicals? Nothing was called. I don't know. But they kicked one kid out. But the other kid got to stay in. They were on the ground doing whatever. Kicked one kid out, but didn't nobody shoot no free throws. Like, it wasn't one, no technical. They just ejected him?
Starting point is 02:14:19 Don't free throws come with that? If they give a tech and eject him, yeah. So he can't just kick you out without free throws? What level is this? High school. Yeah, high school, I feel like if they don't have a tech and eject them, yeah. So he can't just kick you out without... What level is this? High school. Yeah, high school, I feel like if they don't have a tech already, it should be four free throws, right? Yeah, it's four. Yeah, you get tech, tech, and then...
Starting point is 02:14:33 Nothing. Two free throws and the ball. So, yeah, the kid, it wasn't like... So he technically wasn't kicked out, so he could have came back in the game. Yeah, he went to the locker room, they told him he could sit on the bench. Yeah, so he wasn't kicked out. So what the fuck was it?
Starting point is 02:14:47 It's just crazy right high school. She's probably just say just break There's a rule I hear right if you get ejected out of game you got to miss the next But I was in a bath, but that's what he probably didn't get kicked out of the game. So what is weird? So they just like sit down Well, I'm gonna turn a few months ago seeing the kids swing on another kid mind you cameras everywhere But then he like hid with some of his other teammates the ref could figure out which one he was And then we was warming up and he was looking at the the highlight already on the camera for I'm just like alright But nothing happened like you need to get ejected like the ref just couldn't you know?
Starting point is 02:15:23 This is a you know, the tournaments of the rest weren't the highest quality, but they just Keep on my wait a minute somebody gonna get you just stole on this kid Neither here nor there our first question is from underdog user avo the boy. Oh wait. I Always got to read these nice first to make sure nobody set me up What hypothetical player is more dangerous? A 6'6 Iverson or a Shaq that can shoot? A Shaq that can shoot?
Starting point is 02:15:54 A Shaq that can make free throws. A Shaq that can make free throws. More dangerous than a 6'6 Iverson. Because he's averaging 50. Yeah, because he's going to be making his free throw. His, Joel, and me. We didn't even say shoot. We just said just make free throws.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Right. If he shot 75% from the free throw line, we're not saying shoot 90, 75% from the free throw line, he's at 45 a night. That's insane. He can take the jumper out. Just free throws.
Starting point is 02:16:27 I didn't think about it that way. I say it all the time. If Joel and B was mean like Shaq, he would have his 50 points. Shaq was mean, man. He's a mean basketball player. He had bad intentions out there. Bad intentions.
Starting point is 02:16:42 Bad intentions, man. He was Mike Tyson. Yep. So just imagine him being able to make free throws. Wow, yeah. Just amazing. AI was going to be who had six. He was going to take the same shots. It didn't matter. Right? It didn't matter. He's just 6'6".
Starting point is 02:16:58 He's Tracy McGrady. I'm just saying. Scoring at an alarming rate, high-volume shooter, going to take a lot of shots, great. He would just have more highlight dunks because he can get by anybody. But, yeah. As our producers pointed out, Shaq missed 5,317 free throws in his career.
Starting point is 02:17:20 That is so wild. Yeah, what is that, 40? What percentage is issued as five thousand points? That he didn't get Just Pete they was taking about a game at a certain period that's five thousand that he took Yeah, that he took that they didn't give him the ball at the end They had to take the ball out of his hands and the file they didn't call. Yeah. Yeah, just imagine if it doesn't matter They like sir, as you said the other day just imagine like how many times shaq get fouled lebron yannis and dudes get fouled
Starting point is 02:17:50 before they blow the whistle like what's his free throw percentage i think 52.7 for his career for his career damn right got it up to 75 75 just imagine like that's Giannis if Giannis shot 80% from the free-throw line or something like it's fucking dangerous 1149 misses in the playoffs as well So how many did you say he missed 5,000 so miss 53 500 total during his career, but then in the playoffs he missed over 1,100. So he missed 7,000 free throws. That's why, yeah, when you really think about it like that. That's a lot of missed free throws. Huh?
Starting point is 02:18:33 That's a lot of missed free throws. Hell yeah. Because personally, I think he was shooting too, like, there was no way feasible Shaq should have been standing on the free throw line shooting. Too strong. Too strong too big like dude he holds the put the ball at Yeah, there's a demo time cuz I don't like the way this shit disgusting the man held the ball like this to shoot yeah What player ever held the ball like this to shoot?
Starting point is 02:19:08 Because he has to look. Yeah, because he's too strong. So imagine him back at top of the key. Are you allowed to do that? Yes, Nick Van Exel shot the fucking halfway through it. Yeah, you have to be. Shoot wherever you want, playing in the middle. Yeah, so from the free throw line to the top of the key.
Starting point is 02:19:22 You can shoot anywhere. Absolutely. You can shoot anywhere in that line. Motherfuckers shoot to the left of it top of the key. You can shoot anywhere. Absolutely. Anywhere in that line. The motherfucker shoot to the left of it, to the right. It don't matter. He should have backed his ass off that line. Nobody ever told him to do. Why is your big ass standing at this stationary position?
Starting point is 02:19:37 With your fingertips. With the ball like. We got to shoot a tennis. The average person, if you give us, we can shoot a tennis ball that way. You're not shooting a tennis ball. And that's how you. That was a tennis ball. Yeah, that's a tennis ball to him. I Know so finance. I guarantee you they tried to get him to do underhand and he was not gonna have it. Yeah, probably His ego was not gonna allow him to do underhand shots Under he should have backed off the line have been
Starting point is 02:20:05 Yeah to do underhand shots. He should have backed off the line. That would have been... He would have been airballing them motherfuckers too. How you airball that? No, but just imagine if he backed off the line. He wouldn't have to shoot it. He could have probably shot a regular shot from the top of the key. I wonder if anybody even told him that. No. Hell no, because he stood on the line
Starting point is 02:20:21 for fucking 16 years. So Rick Berry tried to get Shaq to shoot underhanded Shaq said I'd rather shoot 0% for my career Oh, so he did. Oh, I know I like someone like this only because the way he shot the ball I'm pretty sure someone just this would have been easier form Because you know, it's There's just some like this just two hands that probably would it's just like him just think about it You know how bad it looks He would have to do that motherfucker like... Yeah, just something like this. Two hands. And that probably would have just, like, him just... Think about it. You know how bad it looks just to look at it like...
Starting point is 02:20:50 Oh, look at that little head. He was like, nah, you're not just going to be laughing at me like that. Yeah. Ego, baby. Goddamn big fella. Because we was filing people intentionally and shooting regular jump shots to get on the free throw line. Imagine a nigga shooting that motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:21:06 Oh, yeah, we're going to keep filing you intentionally. Oh, yeah, we filed Chuck Hayes. That clip with Chuck Hayes that's out there? Uh-huh. Us in Denver. Chuck Hayes. Like, why you think he on the line by himself? When?
Starting point is 02:21:24 The clip in Denver with Chuck Hayes is us, me, AI, all of us. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. He's on the line by himself. Mm-hmm. I intentionally hacked the shit out of him so he can go shoot that bitch. So we can get our fucking giggle on, dawg. Giggle.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Mean-spirited, Kaze. A horrible. That's... Dawg. If you look at we all, Chuck Turner, man, that's a travel. Yeah. That's a travel, like, on the free throw line. Yeah, we all, man, y'all got a car, that's a lane violation, dog.
Starting point is 02:21:53 You're the only person on the line, that's a lane violation. Yo. So imagine you give up that motherfucker and you. Yeah. Big as hell. Oh, we're going to do that again, big fella? Do that again. If fellas ask again, we need some more giggles.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Oh, definitely. The next trip. Consensus is, Shaq, you don't even need to be able to shoot. Just be able to shoot free throws. Same Shaq with just some free throws. What are you doing, Gil? We have more questions. He's sleepy.
Starting point is 02:22:20 We have more questions? Yeah. This is a condensed show. Oh, I thought you said that was... This is OnlyFans? This is Only best fans. We only got two more left You know, we don't even know all three every time you can do one do the people We can do one goddamnit you ain't gotta do all three every time do I was I was I was a Vegas for one night I
Starting point is 02:22:42 Was out in Vegas for one night the amount of people that came up to me said, what this show means to them, how it gets them through their day. So the least we could do. Me too. We know you got your nap. Me too from the show. Look at that, Lexi. A superstar now.
Starting point is 02:22:55 And they've been picking on you a lot lately. Who? You and Cheryl, y'all got enemies out there. Oh, no, no, no. Cheryl. That shit was funny. Cheryl poked the bear with the eye with. Oh, that shit was fun. That shirt. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they got no sure Yes, it is. Oh, I was she poked the bear with that
Starting point is 02:23:13 Iowa in college the problem is like it's not like she said anything wrong That's the only thing a lot you have to listen to what the person's saying to understand it exactly right She's saying that when she comes to the NBA. She's not gonna play like that because The other WNBA girls is not gonna want someone coming in shooting all the shots because they got money and they're trying to do that That's what she's not she didn't say she's not gonna do that cuz she's sorry. I know she didn't say that She's gonna be a transition because of the other players on the team was not gonna allow her to do that Not me. It's like this what's wrong with?
Starting point is 02:23:53 Exists snippets of fucking conversations, but it is nice that gills are is being washed in Iowa City Hopefully at the local high-visa as they're going through shopping getting their groceries like you don't want to be Cheryl That's what I said. Yeah, don't be That's what it said? Don't be a Cheryl. Don't be a Cheryl. Don't be a Hall of Famer. Don't be the greatest women's basketball player. Don't be a Hall of Famer. Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Like, I legitimately... Cool. All right. When we have Cheryl on the show, I get tired having to read all the accomplishments because it's just lines and lines and lines. And I have to read all of them because it's all too much good shit.
Starting point is 02:24:24 The GOATs. Come on. They do it when they introduce boxers. They ain't won in 12 years. Two-time division. Three-time division. Four-time division. Like, God damn.
Starting point is 02:24:38 1957. Like, wait. Wait a minute. Let's move on to our second question from underdog user JDK23. Who was the funniest NBA, Lexi, for you WNBA player that you played with or played against? Funniest? Sidney Coulson. Sid is?
Starting point is 02:24:59 That's a funny girl. Yeah. We don't play together in the W, but we play together in the Athletes Unlimited League, which starts next week. Okay. Fair enough. Yay!
Starting point is 02:25:11 Let's go play basketball. Sid, incredibly funny face of the WNBA. Yeah. The face. Shout out to Sid and TP. Yeah. The faces.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Check out their show. Yeah. Can y'all go to you? Who's the funniest NBA player that you played with or against? Probably Chucky Atkins. And what made Chucky so funny?
Starting point is 02:25:34 Him. His fucking sins and energy and personality and just, yeah. You need Chucky Atkins on your team. He going front. Don't let you be getting cooked on the other team. You're going to hate Chuckie Atkins. But no, Chuckie is. Was he just talking the whole time?
Starting point is 02:25:57 He was talking the whole time. But he's encouraging us, but yeah, he's funny. AI funny too, quietly. Chuck funny, but yeah, Chuckie Atkins is... And what makes AI funny? Just constant... constant just jokes all the time. There's no... it's not a dull moment. Like I only imagine.
Starting point is 02:26:19 In our private times, there's not a dull moment. It's always curious, you see how guys carry subs in the media obviously on the court But then once you get on the bus the planes where nobody's around yeah, like he like he can imitate any voice Chuck yeah, you sing like you draw By it's like like it's like this mother is great But now yeah, he him imitating Different people in voices, coaches, staff. Listen, yo.
Starting point is 02:26:53 So, Gil, who's the funniest NBA player you play with? Chuckie Atkins. You think her? Mm-hmm. Hands down. Kenneth. Old Kenneth. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:05 No stories, Gil, we good. I'm ready to take his nap. All right, get ready to take his nap. Chuck Yack is got the nap time. It was very funny. No, Chuck Yack is. But I'm going to save you because you know you can break off into a 45-minute story about Chuck Yack. That's what I'm saying, Chuck Yack is.
Starting point is 02:27:17 That'll keep us all in throw. But we'll go to our last question. This person does not have an Underdog Fantasy user account, unfortunately, which means they're missing out on a free $50 bonus. Everybody else out there, if you don't have one as well, make sure you download Underdog Fantasy. Use promo code GIL. They'll match your first deposit up to $100.
Starting point is 02:27:36 All right. What's the dumbest or craziest investment opportunity that a friend or family member tried to get you to fund? Keyword, friend or family member tried to get you to fund? Keyword friend or family member. Don't have one of those stories yet. Lexi you know that you deal with Gilbert and Renis. Yep, I already know. I'm just laughing because obviously y'all should have known that question was going to get us to giggling and sniggling. But let me tell you, I do get asked to invest in things. They're just not done. They're good?
Starting point is 02:28:13 Yeah. I invest in things. I just never had anybody, a friend or a family. No rap? No future female rap? No. Studio time. I don't got the...
Starting point is 02:28:26 You know what type of circle I'm around? Like, my family's straight. You don't got no cousins there. Like, we good. You don't got no cousins there. I could ask my dad. I could probably bring you a bunch of stories about... Yeah, I could say you got no cousins. But, no, all my cousins... I'm the oldest in the family.
Starting point is 02:28:40 The clothing line, you ain't got no... I'm the oldest. Everyone's still like 22 years old. My siblings and my cousins. They're all babies. There's no dumb people in your family? No. No. Nope.
Starting point is 02:28:53 No dumb friends? No. They're out of here. Oh, you done already, aw, you done already cut it. Yeah. Dumb friends gotta go. Kaden, do you have a dumbest or craziest investment opportunity that a friend or family member tried to get you to fund?
Starting point is 02:29:08 Oh, it's that record, that rap shit. That rap shit. That's what I said you got to do. No, I got to rap. That's the typical. That's the first one. Hey, Lexi, I'm a rapper. They call me.
Starting point is 02:29:19 No, no. Mm-mm. But that dude who I was writing, he could actually fucking rap, actually, but it was just... Nigga, I can't even get could actually fucking rap, actually, but it was just... Nigga, I can't even get you to pull your pants up, nigga. You think I'm finna put some money behind you, nigga? I tell you, I'm tired of seeing your drawers, nigga. Coming around the house, my mom in the house, nigga, you got your drawers showing, nigga.
Starting point is 02:29:42 You think I'm... Pants on the ground. Pants on the ground. Yeah, likel showing, nigga. You think I'm... Pants on the ground. Like, dude, you... No, so... That's... So I guess I got the most stupid friends out there, huh?
Starting point is 02:29:56 Nah, it's some stupid niggas. They just knew I wasn't going for the bullshit, that's all. Yeah, you... So what'd I say about you? Million dollars for Stickers Car stickers You know how like the stickers no more. Okay, so like
Starting point is 02:30:20 You know how like we have raps now, Yeah. You know like there was like back in the day they had like just stickers itself. Just before the whole rap it was just the sticker itself. So invested in stickers for football fans. So like the Eagle fans can have the Eagle, you know, Terrell Owens logos. So they wanted you to create fatheads. Like fatheads on the car. Yeah. Fatheads for cars. That's what it was fat head for the call
Starting point is 02:30:47 I don't know that could have that could have really done something No, the next question is did you do it? Yeah, I changed my number How do they present it to you? Huh? How do they present it to you? Oh, shit. They just, like, call you? You know, like, they just send me a card, like, damn, that's fire. What is that? All these, you know, stickers, man. This could be a nice little investment, right? Give a million dollars up, you know, boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:31:14 Because, you know, like, think about the Cowboys and you with the redskins and Lincoln. You're like, stickers, though? Like, you need a million dollars? How much is a sticker? Yeah, I think, damn, that nigga coulda slow walked you at least. Like, you know what, this is not what I want right now. That's not what I need. But them niggas thought they saw a sucker, nigga.
Starting point is 02:31:35 They were trying to lick you, nigga. Listen, they didn't want to slow walk you or nothing. You know what? Hey, man, I got this great idea. This is going to cost you $100,000. $100,000? I would have broke it off a million. Yeah, you're in slow walking, and you know what? Hey, man, I got this great idea. It's gonna cost you a hundred thousand Yeah, yeah slow walking and you know what a motherfucking six months later I wish I'm gonna need another 250 on that like this. We was gonna cost a little bit Let me just came right out the gate
Starting point is 02:32:01 Yeah, like you like sweet stick waste what? Like stickers just like the ideas is like I was seeing it but the price didn't match. Oh not at all the whole world by the You try yeah stickers ladies. Oh You trying to buy the factory car sticker what he wanted the land and the fact that they was printing them bitches in For a million Yeah, you get the real estate. Yeah, and better come with a liquor license and a few other things Another spirit today on kills arena thankful that the NFL season is over football done. You can rock out with us We're gonna have basketball coverage for throughout the rest of the season through the summertime
Starting point is 02:32:44 All the way through to next year. So shout-out, Underdog Fantasy. Lexi, shout-out to yourself for pulling it off. Jeez. We've had a great time out there. Jeez. Rams. Senior shout-out.
Starting point is 02:32:53 Rams 2025. Our latest Rams fan, our newest and truest Rams fan, Gilbert Arena. You know what? Wait, is that the same color as you see in LeBron? I think I might join. Hey, Sheed, I might join the Rasheed Wallace bandwagon. Oh, yeah. Hey, Sheed, I need a new team, dog.
Starting point is 02:33:09 I'm going to have to jump on the Kansas City bandwagon, dog. That's your fault. We appreciate y'all rocking out with Gil's Arena, presenting my underdog fantasy. We will see y'all tomorrow. I'm out. Thank you. The Teksting av Nicolai Winther 5, 4, three, two.

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