Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates How Luka & The Mavs Will Bounce Back

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates If Luka Doncic & The Dallas Mavericks Will Be Back in the NBA Finals as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Mavericks losing out on the NBA Championship in 5 games and discuss what Luka, Kyrie Irving and Jason Kidd need to do in the offseason to keep them at the top of the Western Conference. They then react to Victor Wembanyama getting in the lab with Jamal Crawford and break down how the rookie phenom makes the San Antonio Spurs a premiere NBA Free Agency Destination as they take a leap in his 2nd season. Finally, they give their takes on Monty Williams securing the greatest bag finessing in NBA History as they react to Monty getting fired by the Detroit Pistons just 1 year after being hired for $85M. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Today's Crew - Kenyon Martin & Brandon Jennings Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash AND A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! - https://discord.gg/underdog APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:11 Landon Donovan's Bad Hair Day 0:09:03 Kendrick's Juneteeth Concert 0:24:04 Who Won The Beef? 0:31:45 Justin Timberlake Gets Arrested 0:37:04 Monty Williams Fired 0:42:27 Pascal Siakam Re-Signs With Indiana 1:00:30 How Can Indiana Improve This Offseason? 1:06:37 What's Next For The Warriors 1:11:30 Tatum & Brown's Relationship 1:18:15 Best Duo In The NBA 1:28:28 How Will The Mavs Bounce Back? 1:34:15 Wemby Is In The Lab 1:53:21 Are The Spurs A Premiere Free Agency Destination? 2:10:43 Cameron Brink Tears ACL 2:15:18 MostlyFans 2:26:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! How everybody doing today? Good, good, good. Good, good, we in here. Special day. Dang, I forgot my De La Soul outfit. Yeah, we got you a custom Gil Zarina dashiki. You at home.

I forgot my De La Soul. Welcome back. The De La Soul fit. The De La Soul fit. But this is Gil Zarina presented by Eto'o Dark Fantasy. As always, we have the De La Soul fit lackey, Gilbert Arenas, here with us. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back in the booth.

Representing Los Angeles on this beautiful Juneteenth. And Kenya Martin is back in the arena. Full applause. Game is full share. So we want to wish everybody out there a very happy Juneteenth. And for those who are watching the show who don't know what Juneteenth is exactly, Juneteenth, also known as Freedom Day or Emancipation Day, is a holiday celebrating slaves in Texas learning in 1865 that they had been freed

by President Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. So Lincoln's executive order outlawed slavery in Confederate states beginning January 1, 1863. But naturally that message was slow to make its way to Confederate states still looking to capitalize off of free labor. So now we celebrate Juneteenth as a federal holiday. Most people do. Some states still hating and tripping.

But you already know, Gil don't like designated off days. So we're still bringing your favorite basketball show in celebration of solidarity. So it was good with everybody. What up? What up? So, quick question. Wait, are we free? That's a great question, Brendan. Yeah. We're free? Compared to what?

Compared to what it used to be, I'd say. Hell yeah. Much better conditions. They just found another Compared to what it used to be, I'd say. Hell yeah. Much better condition. They just found another way to do it. Hey, I can tell you this. I like this way better than the other way. They just found another way to keep everybody in line. They just found another way. If you didn't stay in line, they had a place for you.

There's free labor behind that wall, trust me. Hey, listen, listen. What? I really get my ass whooped by somebody who birthed me versus someone who bought me.

Yeah, the industrial prison complex still surviving. Yeah, them bought ass whoopers feel a lot harder. Well, yeah,

ain't no, yeah. The people who love and care. Yeah, they ain't gonna come back and be okay later. Yeah, okay,

you want some ice cream, you know what I mean? Come on in. I made you dinner now. That loving cat. Yeah, that loving cat. Come back, she'll be okay later. Yeah. Okay, you want some ice cream? Come on in. I made you dinner now. Uh-huh. Free enough. I'm going to love you. Come on, you know, I'm hoping because I love you now. The fight still wages on, but a lot freer than we used to be.

We'll say that. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Pistons fired Monte Williams after just one season in Detroit with $65 million remaining on his deal. Did Williams pull one of the greatest bag finessings in NBA coaching history? Luka led the Mavs to their first final since 2011, but was this finals run a fluke,

or will the Mavs be a threat in the West next season? And Rookie of the Year Victor Wimbinyama is back in the lab working with Jamal Crawford. Will Wimby make the Spurs one of the hottest free agent destinations? And for those of you who watched the show yesterday, we had a lot of these things to discuss. Yesterday we got into a very, very spirited discussion on the Celtics championships and all the inner workings of that. So we're going to talk about all this stuff today. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.

Celebrate Juneteenth by downloading the Underdog fantasy app using promo code gill and getting up to 250 in bonus cash and a special pick'em and to celebrate the end of the nba season underdog is dropping a special pick'em in honor of the wmba's best rivalry available for all years until their matchup on sunday all you need to do is pick either angel reese or caitlin clark to get one point that's right one whole point and you could win up to 325X your money. It should be a good game. It's one and one right now. Angel got the best of Kaitlyn in the first game.

Kaitlyn got the win in the second one. So we'll see what's going down. But everybody's a winner. Pick Kaitlyn. Pick Angel. It is Juneteenth. So I would say lean towards the Angel side. But that's just my personal opinion.

And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. You drop a good question in the chat with your Underdog Fantasy username, we use it on the show, you get a $50 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account if you send us a video at MostlyFansGill at gmail.com and we use that video on the show and you are a member of the Underdog Fantasy family, you get a $100

bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account. And as a reminder, ahead of next week's NBA draft, which will be subpar and likely very boring, we'll be doing an all-time NBA draft right here on Gil's Arena. So next Tuesday and Wednesday, June 25th and 26th, the crew will be drafting the best of the best in NBA history.

Who will put together the best squad? Who will go number one overall? Watch Gil's Arena live next week to find out and the draft order will be determined right here on Gil's Arena live on Thursday so stay tuned for that as well. We're doing a draft a little different. Question. So who picked the colors in Juneteenth? The colors game? Yeah. Al Sharpton. I don't know. No, I'm just saying, like,

because isn't this the African flag colors? Mm-hmm. And whether you like it or not, you're from Africa, Gil. No, we're not. Crescent off my face? No, I'm just wondering. I'm like, because you know how I'm looking like, oh, this is very festive. And then I'm looking at the colors,

and I'm like,, oh, this is very festive. And then I'm looking at the colors, and I'm like, who picked these colors? They were at Party City, I'm pretty sure. So I'm just saying. No, I looked online to see what, like, Juneteenth colorway. And it's this. It's right. So very accurate.

Shout out to our crew. So I'm trying to figure out who picked the color in this world. Like, which group of people just said, okay, these is your colors? Double A, C, D. Double A, C, okay. I don't know. So the Juneteenth flag... I'm while we're putting on the Black Panther.

The Juneteenth flag is red, white, and blue, colored this way to highlight how closely linked its overall meaning is to our country. Wait, is red, white, and blue? The Juneteenth flag. I didn't know we had an official Juneteenth flag either, but... But shout out

to our production team. Worked tirelessly yesterday to decorate this beautiful set. We appreciate y'all, as always. Also, wait, wait. So the one that's like this, the black power,

that's not actually real? Well, you know. It is. It's real if you want it to be real. This is your show. You can make whatever color you want. I don't know. I'm just... Okay, so this is the real color way. This is us just mm-hmm Okay, all right. Okay. I'll just confused here. All right, so it is

Now to the chat is chatting Much like I expect but we're gonna get into it a little different today. So former U.S. soccer star Landon Donovan got put on the summer jam screen recently for one of the worst hair days in modern history. Concerned friend and former L.A. Galaxy teammate Mike McGee posted this text exchange with Donovan in the aftermath. He said, LD, check Twitter ASAP and prop fire your barber. Landon Donovan responded, where were you seven hours ago? Had a hair transplant procedure two weeks ago

and was told it wouldn't show up on camera. Oh, but yes it did, yes it did, yes it did. Mike being a good friend, as can I post this, Landon Donovan said, go ahead, do it, I'm already getting packed up enough, it doesn't matter. So what caused all the clowning? Landon Donovan said, go ahead, do it. I'm already getting packed up enough. It doesn't matter.

So what caused all the clowning? Well, Donovan was spotted during Fox's coverage of UEFA Euro 2024 with his hair looking like this. That's that big Irma cracking. Wait. Wait, wait. It ain't fully translated. It'll need a couple weeks to get right.

It's like a chia patch. You got to water it and let it... Bro, that's bad. Damn. He should have just said he lost the bet. Yeah. Is going bald that bad, dog? To some men. Yeah.

Why? Because it's just... It's just fucking hair. No, it's to us because we have it. It's A-Day. No, I've... Listen, I know. I used to shave my shit off for no...

I've walked around this earth with bald head before. It ain't the worst thing going. For some. No, because you have hair. But still, it didn't matter, though. For the people who's losing it. Yeah. Like, you cutting it on purpose. But it's not a't matter, though. For the people who's losing it. Yeah. Like, you cutting it on purpose.

But it's not a bad look, though. So to them, it's like, I want my shit. I've seen some shit out here, though, like, dude. Like, I've seen, I've been up at that school, man. Like, dude, listen, man, it's time to go home, dog. It's going home, man. The ball right here and the hair on the side. Yeah, it's time to go home.

You ain't got not a strand right here But then you go walk around you do this shit now you come This is much worse trust me now this is a much it's a process case I know I know somebody personally that went and got their stuff done recently Mm-hmm. Yes, I understand and I'm'm happy to say, and I told him this. He told me, he used to walk around with a coma. I said, lucky you didn't know me then. Because I would have roasted the hell out of you.

Right? Yeah. And make you did something then before this, like, I get to a certain degree. But, dude, you can't stay in the house. Wear a hat. Wear a hat. Wear a hat. Look, that's what makes it funny.

If you ask anybody who's losing their hair, they can't accept it. It's just I don't want, like, no. But it's time, though. Whether you want to accept it or not, you are there. Listen, you at the door. That bitch is wide open. I'd rather have my hair and shave it myself because that's the look

versus not being able to. But this look here though, right? You got hair here and you ain't got nothing. Or you got hair here and your roof wide open. Like you dudes will dress and twist and all that shit and roof wide open.

Those be the funniest ones. Yes, the Jerry Ryders look. But the thing is, it be the dudes that walk around, they like 6'2", right? So you can't see it. Most people can't see it, right? Until they get around, they're like, me. And I come standing right on top of your shit like, damn.

Right? Holding on, man. They holding on, man. They holding on by a stream. Dude. I, yo. Because I had a couple teammates, like, you know what? Like, I asked Sean,

I said, like, when you realize, he like, shit, when I was in the 20s. Mm-hmm. RJ. Nigga, we watch a film one day. He like, hey, bruh. Hey, it's time.

Can't hide it. That shit wide open, man. You're like, hey, bruh. Hey, it's time. Can't hide it. That shit wide open, man. You had a good run. So hair transplants, multi-billion dollar industry. I think they did $6.3 billion in revenue in 2023. Expected to be $42.5 billion

by 2033. Dude, that's what I mean. Come on, man. And half of it ain't working. None of it is working. If you notice it, that means it's not working. Well, let me tell you, it ain't meant for black people for one. Like, certain black, like, if you're 100%, like, you can't get it.

Mm-hmm. You can go try. You can get the glue down, though. But you can get that, what, that theatrical wig? Yeah, I'm going to say that wig. It's a theatrical wig is what it's called. Like, it's a real, but... Get the 360s, kid.

They just want to have 360s. But like certain black people, I'm saying they're gonna get it, and black eye skin keloid, right? So when you get it, they taking your hair follicle, they killing your hair follicle. Our hair don't fall over. It don't lay over. Like other races of people. So you just have that scar and if your shit don't take, now you just got that scar

and you still fucking bald. Like, it's tricky. So my thing is, it's a lot safer and cheaper just to go buy you a fucking set of clippers and a razor. But what if you can get that Steve Harvey, though? Right.

You look a fucking, like a fool. Steve Harvey's line up was that thing. People saw your shit falling out, and all of a sudden you got a man unit. Like, come on, man. Everybody ain't got the bald head look. Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah. If you ain't got the bald head look, don't get it.

Bro, that shit. But dude, so what's the worst? So what's worse? Just keep a little bit of that hair. Just keep a little something. I guess, you know what? You have to ask. You really have to ask women.

Yes, and they'll tell you. It ain't that bad. Like, you have to really ask them, because at the end of the day, we're not doing it for each other, because we're all going through it. We got four women in here. So you got to ask them, would you

rather have the bald head or? We got four women in here. Or? Bald. Bald? What about a Jerry cut? Bald. Deborah.

That's what I'm saying. She said bald. We got four women in here, and all four of them said bald. Bald head, so we just saved y'all from adding to the billion-dollar industry. Yeah. We got four, and all four of them, it wasn't even a hesitation. Uh-huh. And everybody now came with an answer.

One said, if you're short, don't go bald. It's like, even if Kenya was bald, you wouldn't be able to see the top. Uh-huh. You're so tall. Yeah, but still. But it's still a thing, though. You know, as an expert in these matters, gentlemen, I say bald.

Hey. Just go bald. That's all good. You look good, Steve. It's all good. I shaved off 23 years old. I'm good. And the thing is, don't take this the wrong way, Steve, but you're not 6'4", neither, right?

So therefore, you was comfortable enough in your being to be like, it's time. One has to be confident in themselves, yes. It's time, right? So that's my thing. Like, dude, you got a woman at home. You securing your job. You got, like, you, what the, like, it ain't that bad.

She ain't going nowhere if you, listen, if you go ball, she ain't going nowhere. Trust me. I guess, I guess. She ain't going nowhere. Put it up. No, no. Certain races can go ball. Yeah, right

Yeah, white culture. Let's just be honest. That's you and the ball. He just reminds us of a time that just Wasn't it wasn't great for us Can't you know that's look I can see Okay, we get the gummy some of you... That was hard. That was hard right there. Me and Rashad... Okay. When did you get the Gumby? The Gumby was hard. Gumby was fire. But they get the Steve Harvey glue on. Showtime at the Apollo day.

Nah, it's just... Yeah, man, it's... Dude, just go in and go home, man. Everybody in the chat clowned it. I wear hats. I'm not bald. I just got gray hair. I can get the full Frederick Douglass if I want to. There you go. It's just gray.

I'm not using no hair care products. I'm not dyeing it. So I wear hats instead. So y'all can leave me alone, please. I have nothing to do with this. But Landon Donovan knew what he looked like before he went out there. 1,000%.

That's my thing. And nobody... That's what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out what... When he went out there, when he's looking in the mirror, he had to say, yeah, this is it right here. And a good friend texted me like, yo, you look like shit.

They probably told him it wasn't going to be on camera, though. And the only thing he can respond back to his friend, gave him the middle finger like, man, he should have came with the do-rag and just said, hey, yeah, I'm trying to get this. He probably wasn't supposed to look. Like, bro, you don't see brown out that thing on It's not even a side part the side part is one thing like he meant it You know what I'm saying? No what I'm saying does the size supposed to does it supposed to go back up top? I think straight on it would look yeah, I said straight on you can't see it

But he know he got to be he got a swivel on it. So he know he's well, he know he swiveled too far You gotta just respond like this. They should have had him. Josiah, this is how old are you, Josiah? 42, Gil. 42. Same age as yourself. No, because it was like, how old is he?

He already got grades. Stressful life, Gil. Stressful life. Don't talk to me. I'm just reading what the chat say. I don't work with you for damn near three years. I don't understand. That is stress. Gil will call you at any point in the day, night, evening.

Mm-hmm. I call at 5 o'clock in the morning. Hey, so what you doing right now? Oh, you're asleep. Wake up. It is 5. My bad. My bad. I call you an hour. And then if you miss the call, you can't call him back. So I got to be, all right, I'm on the phone now, Gil.

I'm ready to talk to you. But looking back on your own lives, what's the worst hair day that you've ever had? It could be at any point. Like I had a military bowl cut my mom gave me when I was younger. Your mugshot. I mean the one when you came back from the...

When you turned your back on me. Oh, yeah. It was going through. Yeah, yeah. Bro, you was going through it. What's so funny is if you look at it, you gonna be back on me. Oh, yeah. You was going through it. Yeah, yeah. You was going through it. What's so funny is if you look at it, you're going to be like, damn. You was only like 29 right here. Well, you was looking.

I look older on this picture. It was just the summer. It was the summer grind. It was the summer grind, and I was going through some things, and, you know, a haircut wasn't in. It wasn't priority. It wasn't, yeah. Like, this is my new look.

This is my new look. This is what I'm going with. And what's so funny is the reason I cut it is because Ted Leona said, he was like, come on, you got the beautiful smile. Right now you look like you're 40. He said, I know, you know, whatever happened in the summer, whatever happened last year, this is the new year. Come on, get back that smile and the handsome face you got.

So I think I cut it, like, preseason when we was in New York. Okay. But you go back and look at all photos of dudes in the league, 60s, 70s, 80s. They was 22 years old on full struggle mode, the George Jeffersons. My mom gave me a haircut. I had a school picture.

Your mom. Thick-ass part. Bad. Bad, bad. Yeah. I tried to get myself to Stephon Marbury at one point, but it kept getting wider, it kept getting wider, it kept getting wider.

I just got to roll with it. Thick-ass, like, off-center, too. Like, I'm like, damn. I had to go to school, then take the school picture. Oh, this, off center, too. I'm like, damn. I had to go to school and take the school picture. Oh, this had to be 90s. Yeah, I was in elementary school in the 80s, nigga. Oh, man. Hey, wait, I was, too.

Shit, now I think about it. Better time. Yeah. Better time. Yeah. I was in elementary school in the 80s, bro. I was in fucking high school in the 90s. Rant about yourself? Worst hair day you had or you refused to have?

No, I don't have bad hair days. Ever? Like, no, I don't play that. Stop the cap. I mean, go look it up. You were in elementary school? Curl. The S curl. Oh, yeah, the S curl.

I had the S curl, yeah. The West Coast curl. I had the cane. I had the cane from I Missed the Society. I had the Jerry Curl a couple times. Get the fly, Joe. Sorry, he's on your screen. Get the fly.

He's on your screen. Get the fly. Get your hat. Miyagi on your screen. Get the fly. He's on your screen. Get the fly. Get your hat. Miyagi. Damn. This nigga. Give me some chopsticks. I mean, mostly, if you grew up in the early 90s, I know for damn sure you had some fucked up hairstyles.

Right? When Nike, the Nike sign was popular in people's head. Your barber didn't know how to draw. He fucked you up. The word Nike fucked you up. The word Nike fucked you up. The word Nike. That Jordan logo. Right, so, you know,

some of the barbers, you went to your local barber, you seen some shit on the hair cart chart. That used to be the best. Then they pretend like they know how to do it. Yeah, yo, give me that Nike sign. It was shit all backwards, upside down. The curl was big, though.

Got the psyche. Yeah. Got the psyche. The S curl with the line. Uh-huh. I was in. Shout out Paul Pierce. One of the greatest S curls in L.A. basketball history.

Inglewood. My uncle used to torture me. God rest my uncle Mark's soul, boy. He had waves. I was young, so I was like, uncle, how you get waves, man? This is like, biggest asshole ever. And told him, so you gonna get an onion? I don't know how, I'm young, I'm maybe third grade.

Naive and shit, I'm like, yeah, okay, you gonna do it? Now I'm sitting in there with the onion, rubbing the onion on my head. My mama come in there like, what the fuck is this boy doing? Uncle just get up and walk out. Like, dude, like, right? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, well, let's get this thing moving. We got... Oh, I did have Nike. I just thought about it. I had the N-I-K-I-E. Oh. N-I-K... Nike?

That's Nike. That's the Nike. And it said it right there on the board. He's still Right there right on the board. That's why he didn't didn't Nick have a tattoo. It said it's supposed to be like what rebel Oh, yes, missus. There's plenty people here, bro It is right Nick Nick young got a tattoo right born, and I think they spelled it wrong. Oh, wow, man, that's the worst. No regrets. Whoo! Lord Jesus.

Look at this. Yo, bro, yeah, you was... Yo, you did your media day like that? Yeah, that's media day. I figured, look at this. Yo, wasn't you in Memphis like that? No, no, no, no, I wasn't in Memphis. Oh, just, okay.

Yeah, this is the Wizards, yeah. Yo, this nigga went to media day looking like he just got out. Like, you did, like, it looked like wizard, yeah. Yo, this nigga went to media day looking like he just got out. Like, you did. It looked like you, listen. This picture looked like they had you locked up all summer. They let you out. Gil looked like he went on a run.

And you went straight to media day, right? Yo, he looked like they let him out. He went straight to media day. Looked like he got off a... Yo, you look like a real convict. No, for real. We asked the chat, is going bald... He did it did it we asked the chat is going bald a bad thing 62 said no shout out chat normally haters it is juneteenth i'm happy to see y'all embracing all hairstyles people all things like that over 3 000

votes on that one so appreciate y'all so it is juneteenth a lot of celebrations going on around the country but let's talk about L.A. There has been little motion with the Kendrick-Drake beef for the past few weeks after both rappers dropped several diss tracks going at each other. Drake caused a stir in his song Family Matters with his bar, always rapping like you're about to get the slaves freed. And it seems like Kendrick took it to heart. So in celebration of Juneteenth,

Kendrick is doing a special concert in L.A. called The Pop Out, Ken and Friends, going down at the Forum today at 4 p.m. So I'm rolling with the concert. I didn't realize it was at 4 p.m. You're going to do it in the middle of the day? Mm-hmm. In the city of champions. Hot. H-O-T-T.

At 4 p.m. But most people do have the day off, so I get it. Everybody's not at Gil's Arena presenting my underdog fantasy. Who got the day off? It's a federal holiday, King. Who's taking the day off, boy? Wait, so it's that pop? I wonder who he's going to bring.

The bank opened. I wonder who Kendrick... DJ Mustard's going to be there. I mean, he's got different crews going down. The bank was open today. See, I can't tolerate that. He might bring out Dr. Dre. It's going to go down.

It feels like it's going to be streaming. You know we all are going to be watching the stream. Are they streaming it too? Yeah. So Brandon, what are your expectations for the pop-out Ken and Friends concert? I think it's going to be awesome. I think he's going to bring out a lot of L.A. legends,

of course. I wouldn't be surprised if he brings out Dr. Dre. But I think it's going to be a great moment for L.A. need it. Like we haven't had anything like, you know, our own LA artists coming to the city and like putting it down for the city. So I think it might be the start of something. Last thing I think of is Dre and Snoop at the Super Bowl. Obviously Kendrick was there and that whole crew, but this is like, I mean, it's at the Forum. Like that's, that's taking it back. Y'all know San Fernando Valley, but you have L.A. ties. No, I mean, it's probably going to be a bunch of L.A. rappers, you know, who really just holding the city down right if you think about like

Like how he's moved You know this this one is just strictly for summer in LA trying to get the city popping again. Mm-hmm So, you know I'm pretty sure it'd be LA based and most LA rappers will be Trying to you know, get onto this ticket so they can be part of the whole movement. So I wouldn't be surprised to see like, you know, old school rappers like, you know, DJ Quick and all those

type of guys, you know. My favorite producers. Less than the stage, so, you know. Snoop, the Eastsiders, like. Game, like I mean,, I said it could. It could, it could. So you think Kendrick's going to make it? Oh, pal.

Yeah. I just hope... Sugar-free? I just hope these N words behave. That's all. Hope it ain't no BS. Ain't no situation. Yeah, I just hope these N words behave.

Not on your team, King. I appreciate you saying the full word in honor of the holiday. Yeah, I just hope they behave,words behave. Not on Juneteenth, King. I appreciate you. Yeah, yeah. Saying the full word in honor of the holiday. Yeah, I just hope they behave, man. You know how it is. Got a bunch of them in one area. I'm just... In Englewood, it is. Englewood a little different now, but... It's still, yeah, they gentrifying it, but it's still...

It still has... Yeah, you go one way... Still summertime, it's still hot. It's still summertime and you still go one way way one wrong one way and it's popping pop off gonna be the pop off So you think Kendrick is gonna make Drake regret saying he's rapping like he's trying to get the slaves free That was a bar that a lot of people had issue with I'm sure kind of food. Can you tell get to heart? I Mean what is he gonna do, rap like he getting the slaves free? Get the slaves free!

But I'm just saying, it's... No, what a, what a big gangster if he play, well, we really can't hear it out there, really, obviously, if he drop a new joint. On the stream, yeah. Him and Musta come up with a new joint and drop it while they there. They still not like a...

Ooh, that'd be crazy. Right? That'd be. So, and up. Two of that, they not like us. Come on, they. Like with a remix or something. They'll remix with everybody in the world.

Yeah, yeah. OK, OK. It ain't no hit. No, because it ain't because it's there. But I'm saying, it's a dope concept. Like, that album, I mean, that song right there was the end of it. There was really nothing you can do.

And it was always the ender. That was always the checkmate move. I'm pretty sure that there was nothing after this whatever it was

it was going to come before this this song was the final hit, it was going to always be the final hit of course you got kids singing it yeah cause you know that was the beauty of it right, when you're talking about

like something that's impactful, the impactful is it being able to play in the club the radio right when you when he goes eat when he goes into a club like think about it when when drake goes inside of a club he's gonna know that the song you to play before he got there right or is gonna play soon as he leaves that mug right cuz you know most you know most DJs won't play why he's there but they gonna play as soon as he bounces out and the whole place is gonna go crazy and that's the impact of the song because you sitting there listening to songs hoping that the DJ don't disrespect you like that, right?

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Oh, I get it. You know, it was... I know, I just like the back-to-back shit he made. Same shit. Yeah, same shit he made. You know what I'm saying? Same shit. Yeah, same shit, yeah. Same thing. Like, that shit was on the radio every... He got back to that for the record. Everybody was like, back to back.

You know what I'm saying? I think, like, when... Beef's in the future is going to take this approach. Right? They're going to try to... They're going to try to hit a hit record for it to be played worldwide. Good luck. Yeah, it's going to be, I mean, no, all that's going to happen is...

All you need is a producer. But you got to be big enough though. Kendrick was already big enough. This battle was big enough. Because of who it was involved with, but he already was a hit himself Was a big enough artist worldwide. Mm-hmm to where it hit like so It's just like back-to-back when Drake did this is worldwide cuz he's already a big enough star To where you got other people from other countries and stuff streaming it now, right? Mm-hmm so now those may it but We got both people were, both people were, both, you know,

both artists were very smart and tactical, right? Like you can see, you know, just from how they was laying music down, but that three-week window where Kendrick didn't drop anything, all he was doing was writing and loading up. Every time Drake popped something, he already had something coming, right? Which made Drake go back to the booth, right? And then, you know, when he dropped something, I dropped something else. Take your ass back to the booth.

Because Kendrick did all his shit. He did all his shit already, right? So he's just sitting there just, that's it? That's it? All right, I'm done. I'm tired. Here we go. Right?

And it was one of those. And I don't think Drake was, I don't think Drake had one of these in the vault. Yeah. He didn't have a club banger in the vault. So when he got hit with it, there was nothing he could do. No, he didn't. He wasn't prepared. He wasn't prepared could do. No, he didn't. He wasn't prepared.

He wasn't prepared for this. No. He wasn't prepared for mustard. Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't prepared for mustard. That's what he wasn't prepared for. Because other beats Kendrick did, it was just, all right, cool, cool, cool, cool, right? Boom!

Right? It's that that he wasn't prepared. He thought it was just going to be another regular joint. I know, he was like, I should have had Dre on that. Goddamn it, I should have had Goddamn Dr. Dre. Let's keep this thing moving. Speaking of other music... Well, he did make one of his bigger hits with it. Somebody like that made one of them bangers he used to.

That's the problem. They all went against him. They all did. It was all 20 v. 1. You couldn't get no information, though. It wasn't even about information. Yeah, I mean, he was trying to get some information. Who? He was trying to get information. The information he got was golden.

What? They just got the Family Matters CD. No, Family Matters is dope, yeah. Yeah, so, you know, it's the beat plus what Kendrick was saying was what took it over the top. Yeah, the beat. It was like was saying was what took it over the top. Yeah, the beat. It was like, that's what makes it. That's like what he's saying is one thing, but y'all, like, just y'all hear the beat now. That's all we hear is the beat.

The beat now. The beat is enough. And that's how you know the beat was way more impactful than the lyrics. Yeah, because he can just play the hook. If what the lyrics are saying, the fact that everyone is just, I want to dance. Yeah. The claims, fuck them claims.

I just want to dance and we going to be out here. Because it's the hook. Yep. They're not like, you know what I'm saying? It's the hook that everybody is. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Mm-hmm. But I just wish he was a little bit more. For my six-year-old to be in the car Right? Yeah For my six-year-old to be in the car like and they come on the radio and he in it So this shot. Okay, I just wish he was a little bit more prepared though Like I'm gonna do this at you waiting on you for like 10 some years Like he got a lot of like ammo and information on you like he said what the what is the information? What if... I just feel like he wasn't prepared though. Like, going into that situation, like, you're not, like...

I mean, it's a lose-lose situation anyway for Drake. We have facts. So, it doesn't matter. It's just, wasn't prepared, and I think he got involved. When you say there was no prepared, let's say what Kendrick said in the last song, it's all false, right? Who's more prepared?

Well, Kendrick is still more prepared because he's, like, he has more music. He's ready. Like, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. I'm ready. Like, I'm just dropping. I'm prepared for this. So whatever you say, I'm prepared.

And I don't think Drake was really, like, he was like, he was in it, then he was like, then it got personal, then it was kind of like, all right. Like, you got me. Yeah, I just look at, like, if we're gonna, like, when people ask me kind of like, all right, like you got me. Yeah, I just look at like if we're going to, like when people ask me, I just like both parties was. No, for sure.

Both, like when you forget the wins and the losses, you like if this is Jordan's, you know, or Kobe's 81 game for Drake, was this what, Embiid 70? Was this Lucas 70? they say well this wasn't a what he did wasn't a 40-point performance no for sure no no right you know what I mean it wasn't a 40-point performance so you know if he sit there and you know he had he put up 60 or 70 right and Kendrick hit the 80 with the game winner yeah okay we give it to you but you can't take away like no one expected Drake to do what Drake was doing.

Let's just be honest. This was supposed to be just a real massacre. No one thought he was going to come back and drop this much music. Who, Drake? No, for sure. Yeah. Right? You know what I mean?

So the fact that he did that, you'd be like, okay, he was fighting in real time. You thought it was going to be one and done. Yeah, that's right. Everybody thought it was going to be a one-hit quitter, but he was fighting in real time, coming back. And you've got to respect that part of the artistry. I mean, when he was dropping music with Pusha, and then he was dropping music against Meek Mill Beef, like, he was dropping music.

Not this fast, not this quick. I just think he wasn't prepared for, what I'm saying, prepared for all these other people that were coming. That was the distraction. Like, everybody else that was beefing with him during the beef. Like, you got, you, see, because now you got to answer to Rocky, and now I got to answer to Rick Ross.

Now I got to answer to Metro Boomin'. It's like, it's just, and then you got, it's like, it's just too much. But that's what I'm saying. I appreciate, I appreciate just the fight in it, right? Like I know J. Cole, his stuff was for spirit. And, you know, he didn't want no parts of what was going on.

And, you know. Which was? Which was, which was, which was great. and he didn't want no parts of what was going on. And you know. Which was? Which was great. Was great. Was it great? Um. He bowed out gracefully.

Yeah, no, I get it. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I'm going ahead, but when we talking about like, like performance of the Titans, right? No matter if you won or lost, we can say, yo, he battled. No, for sure.

He battled. You know, you got to give his head up for it. He battling, right? You know what I mean? I can't say I don't have respect for you when you went toe-to-toe, right? You went into the boxing ring with Mike Tyson. You took him to 12. He knocked you out in 12.

You went there. That's all you can respect, right? Yeah. So let's talk about some other unfortunate music news. Justin Timberlake was arrested early yesterday morning on suspicions of driving while under the influence up in the Hamptons in New York. So the officer who arrested Timberlake wrote this in his report. He said the defendant was operating said vehicle in an intoxicated condition in that his eyes were bloodshot and glassy. His strong odor

of an alcoholic beverage was emanating from his breath. He was unable to divide attention, had slowed speech, unsteady a foot, and he performed poorly on all standardized field sobriety tests. That's a lot of L's in a row. So the officer who arrested Timberlake reportedly

didn't know who he was, and his mugshot was widely circulated on social media yesterday. We have it. He look normal. He look like he was crying in the room. No, he don't. You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

So he look like himself up in a social network. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't think? A billion. So, if I know I'm, like, you going either way, I go.

I'm going to jail. Like, once they actually get out of the car and start walking and all that shit, I'm not doing all that, man. Touch your nose, man. Put the handcuffs on me. Yeah, let's go. Let's go.

Nothing to have no video of me out here surfacing on the way up. Hit the routine, though. Hit the dance routine. Yeah, let's go. Not finna have no video of me out here surfacing on the web. Hit the routine, though. Hit the dance routine. No, fuck that. You're going to jail either way it go. Hit that move, JT. Yo, you're going. You might as well start dancing out that bitch. You know what I'm saying? Because you're going to jail either way it go. Yeah. You're going. You know you

you know you've been drinking. They should have pulled him over and said, y'all singing group, why don't y'all sing something? Why don't you sing something? That's what they should have told me. and said, y'all singing group, why don't y'all sing something? Why don't you sing something? Timberlake pleaded not guilty, scheduled to appear in court again on July 26th. Nobody like, oh. You can lose your license for a little bit. You got means to get you a driver, man.

Why nobody have, you don't have Listerine on you? Just. Don't think. Throw a little cologne, roll the window down, let it like. Perhaps a better answer would be just to take an Uber. I'm just don't know. The fact that you in there, if you's a drinker and a driver, roll the window down, let it like... Perhaps a better answer would be just to take an Uber. I'm just going to know the fact that you're in there. If you was a drinker and a driver, that's your thing, right? Have you a bottle of Listerine, man.

Just have it on there because when you speak, it can... You know what I mean? Just go ahead, swig it, swig it, throw it. You can swallow it, shit. You're going to have to swallow it. You're going to have to swallow it. Relax what you're spitting out. Spray some cologne on you.

I just don't understand how people drink. Get to talking. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Juneteenth. Get to talking. And then if they got you coming out of the car, pull your pants down a little bit. Pull your pants down a little bit, sag. So when you get out of the car, you stumble.

And they'm like, oh shit, my pants got to pull my pants up. It don't look like the drunk stumble. It look more like you're sagging something. Yeah, I've done that before. You got every angle. Pull your pants down a little bit. Get out. You're going to stumble a couple times.

Oh, shit, my bad. You just got to hit them with the Tommy boy. There's bees. Bees in the car. It's a different run for your life. But be out there. Feel sobriety in these people, man. No.

Just take me to jail. Just take me to jail. Because you're going. You're going. If you know you drunk that way, man, come on. You know, I almost got arrested in DC. The only time I almost got arrested in DC was I had a bulletproof vest.

I got pulled over. They said, you got any weapons in the car? I was like, no. And then it was like, do you got any weapons in the car? I was like, no. And then it was like, do you have anything dangerous in the car? I was like, it was like a taser or something. I was like, no. The only thing I got in my car is a bulletproof vest. And then he looked at me.

Why do you have a bulletproof vest? Absolutely, Gilbert. For defense. This is D.C. Like, I did defense. Like, motherfucker, I can put it on and get the going. Like, I know we're not allowed to have guns, but nobody said I couldn't have a vest. He said, Gil, you don't play defense.

So he pulled me out of the car and then checked and made sure there was no gun. He's like, well, you're not allowed to have a vest either. What? You can't. Yeah. Why? You can't.

See, Lee? Oh, no, I didn't. It's like, okay. No, I didn't. I mean. Listen, have a vest and a silencer alone. You're going. No gun, have a silencer.

You got no gun, no bullets. But what does a vest have to do if I'm protecting myself? It was one of those things. He was like, I'm not going to arrest you. You're a civilian. Why do you need a bulletproof vest as a civilian? That's the question they asked me. And you're going to

stumble with your ass and they're like, come on, son, let me talk to you. But it was like he said at the age. Yeah, 50 can have when he got shot nine times.

Yeah. It makes sense for him to have one. But I said, it's a winner. You're an NBA player. What you got a vest for? I'm an NBA player.

What you got a vest for, son? I was trying to be 50. I don't know but no no no no It's one of the day just took he just took it in. Yes. Let me go. Let's get a bit a real dick and took you in Yeah, no, no, he said he said, you know, but what is it? I didn't know that you were the reeners gets arrested for having a bulletproof vest and people gonna let that look like and well You know, you can protect himself Kenny and then he said is a so no No, the question is why does Gilbert arenas have a bulletproof vest work 60 some million? It's the question in DC, but Nothing all I think I start digging. Yeah, now they gonna get warrants and shit and they come to your career. I'm not Virginia

I got that. I lived in Virginia, so we good. Let's move on to some basketball. It was basketball. It was. Current, modern-day basketball. So, some surprising news. The Detroit Pistons celebrated Juneteenth by firing head coach Monte Williams

after just one season. So, according to Woj, this decision was made at the ownership level, the same ownership that gave Williams a historic six-year, $78.5 million contract last summer after the Suns fired him. With the dismissal, Williams still has $65 million remaining on his contract and what will now be considered reparations for his emancipation. A two-time coach of the year, Williams was expected to help the struggling Pistons

in their rebuilding efforts after several boo-boo seasons. Pistons were the worst team in the league this season with a record of 14-68, including an NBA record-tying 28-game losing streak. Are you guys surprised that the Pistons gave Monte Williams a boot after just one season? Yeah, and they just gave him all that money? Right? Yeah, I mean, after one season?

Like, that was, I don't know. My thing is this. Your team was sorry the year before he got there. And the year before that, and the year before that. And then he gets there. What did you expect him to do with the same food? This is the same, right? You don't even give him a time to really find out what these players can do,

what their potential is to put in his, like, his recipe, right? You know, this is a year, but for the most part, you know, we know the NBA season, half the time you're not practicing. You're trying to, you know what I mean? So you only have, what, three weeks to really try to put in your shit? Oh, no, they was practicing. Oh, I'm pretty sure. It wasn't like the other team.

They was practicing. But you still don't really get a feel for what you really have. It takes time. So the fact that they paid him, then fired him after one year, it says more about them than it does him. Or it had nothing to do with basketball. Or that one. Or that part.

Right? I'll take whatever you're about to say. Like I said on this couch, and I said what I had to say, like, money need to throw a few full other words out there. We saw the video of him not cursing at one point. Right? Mm-hmm. Gosh darn it.

I'm not saying it's the same thing. I don't know this for factual. I don't mean to speak people's business, but rumor has it the reason Mark Jackson hasn't gotten a job because of some of the religious things that he believes in. Right? And he tries to force those things on other people. You can't do that in certain environments.

I'm not saying this is what Manny was doing, but his personality is that of, cool, that's what you are, that's who you are, but you can't force that on people. And you, that way in the locker room and certain things, it might rub people the wrong way. It might rub the management the wrong way. We didn't know this side of, don't know. But this is sports, man. Like, it's emotional, it's, you gotta, you can't, you just can't be here, man.

Like below, like yo, you can't. Not dealing with 19, 20 yearyear-old, 21-year-old young men. It don't work. I feel the players couldn't relate to him. He couldn't relate to the guys. It's part of the decision, man. You got a bunch of 19, 20, 21-year-old kids in there. Go ask them how many of them went to church. How many there. Don't ask me how many of them

with church. How many of them go to church? How many of them read the Bible? These are the things, man. Like, this is real stuff that's going on. And he's like, and I'm... Question.

Yeah. I don't, I'm just... No, no, no. Is he a church-going guy? Humante? I would, I'm just. No, no, no. Is he a church-going guy? Humante? I would, yes. Okay. He's very religious.

Okay, compared to the rest of the world, we're just talking about. Sports. NBA locker room. NBA locker room. I can't talk about, you know, football and stuff. NBA locker room. NBA locker room.

How many church, heavy in the church players are there? Yeah. Take it a step further. Take it a step further. NBA arenas before the game. They have chapel. Yeah, we have chapel.

We have chapel. How many active, your teammates, your teammates, my teammates went? You know the ones that went. Because they went every arena. Every arena, yeah. They went. It's the same two or three guys, if that. Might have been one. It's the same ones.

But I don't mean to, but it's, you know. So, is that, I've never thought about it. Is that fr've never thought about it is That frowned upon like what do we what do we think about those actual players? We don't It's kind of like it depends on who the player is Right listen, so well this is We had turbulence on the plane before one time Hubert Davis took his Bible in the bathroom. Mm-hmm.

It came out. I said, you do know if this bitch go down, you're going with us. You see? You're religious. I get that. You go pray. Okay, cool.

You take your Bible and pray. Cool. But if it go down, I don't think you're going to be spared. But you're very religious. I get that. But that's what I'm saying. But put a seatbelt on, man. Yes, it makes more sense to go to the Bible, right?

Y'all got through the turbulence. That prayer might have been the reason why y'all got through the turbulence. Let me know. Or it could have been the pilot. Or it could have been the weather change. What I'm just saying is, he's right. There is Chapel right and yeah, but why is it a front-up on if guys are No, it is though, but it is also I mean we like I mean I mean nobody because how can you so my thing is about What do we look what like do we look down on like?

Because we get ready to play a basketball look down on like... Have you ever been in a locker room and y'all talk about church and the Bible and stuff? I've never been in a locker room and dudes talk about church. Because I don't think church players, people that's in the church, I don't think they try to push their religion on the players because there's only one or two of them and you got a whole bunch of heathens

in this motherfucker. We got a bunch of heathens in the locker room. Is that what it is? It's because to play in this type of environment, just sports itself, you have to be of a different cloth. Being nice seems like, yo, come on man, with the nine, come on man, you don't have to clothesline this motherfucker, man. Like, is it that? And like, that's what I'm saying, I've never really, like the dudes who went to church,

I'm like, I don't really. You don't, because you think. They don't bother nobody, but we didn't really expect shit from them. We're like, man. Mother on the bench just cheering and shit. Like, you might have one guy that you rely on every night, but it's. Like, I'm thinking about star players. Yeah, who?

I mean, Michael Redd was heavy. Who? Michael Redd was heavy. Oh, he was? See, I'm trying to, like, what kind of star player that... But was he heavy after he got injured or was he heavy before?

Well, I don't, I mean... Oh, you don't know. My rookie year, he was heavy into it, like church and things like that. But you knew the teammates. Huh? So you knew the teammates? Huh? So you knew the guys who was going? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Uh-huh, yeah, him, Luke Ridenour. You know, it'd be a couple other guys. Yeah, so they kind of got me like into it too. So, yeah, it was cool though. But it wasn't like we talked about it. It was just, you know, go to chapel, boom, boom. But it was nothing like, you know. So you started going to chapel when you was there?

Mm-hmm, yeah, sometimes, yeah. And then we would pray after the game sometimes, yeah. Pray after the game? Okay. But it wasn't nothing like, you was there? Yeah, sometimes, yeah. And then we would pray after the game sometimes, yeah. Pray after the game? Okay. But it wasn't nothing like, you know, just we'll go. Played 15 years. Mm-hmm.

No, I've been in the weight room while guys holding chapel. Like, I'm lifting weights and certain go to Portland, they do in the weight room. They got the chapel in the weight room, and they little group, and it's just... Like, I'm thinking, Mike, I think we have Mike James. I think my he's he's very religious. Okay. Yeah to this day He does on this guy. Well, if you see if you follow him on his where Mike does scriptures and stuff now to this day Yes, it was almost not now CC now them so he was he set right next to me Right, but he never like pushed religion. Yeah, you know, you need yes

He never he never like he never, he never, like he never did, he never did that, right? You need to go to church and all that. It was just, you know, just regular dude. But I was like, I remember him always. But what if he would've done it,

what would you have thought? That's the... At that moment in time? Yeah. Yeah. Can I get a new seat, man? I ain't got time to be... Oh, you would've asked him,

you would've went in, you would've came in the next day and his locker would've been moved. Yeah, I'm over here listening to motherfuckers. You can't see me, brother. I ain't got time to be. Oh, you would've asked him that? You would've went up, you would've came in the next day, and his locker would've been moved. Yeah, I'm over here listening to motherfuckers. You can't see me, brother. I can't. You know, brother Malcolm over here. Like, we, like, Eton, I don't even know if Eton was a church dude, but he was more... He's into his religion.

He was more black power type, right? He's militant. Like, we couldn't say the word, like, if we, like, we can, we would drop in bombs, you know, just talking, and then if he, five or eight come out, he'd be like, can you't say the word. Like, if we... Like, we would drop in bombs, you know, just talking. And then if five or eight come out, he'd be like, can you just say my brother? Ah, my brother. And as soon as he got out, this nigga, man.

Like, we'll do that. But for the most part, you know, that's the only thing. Like, you know, he was in the, you know, black power talk, so he was political. But he never tried to convince any of us. He was just like, you know, when we got to saying a certain word, he was like, hey, can we just say my brother? You'll be more receptive to that than the religion part of it, I believe. Speaking of religion, this move may be a blessing in disguise for Monte Williams. He may have executed one of the greatest bag finessings in NBA coaching history.

So in a little over a year, Williams has secured more than $85 million to not coach. Here's the timeline. He was fired by the Suns May 2023, got a $20 million plus buyout. June 2023, hired by the Pistons, got a six-year $78.5

million deal. At that point, the largest coaching contract in NBA history. And now June 2024, fired by the pistons after one season getting 65 million dollars plus buyout so you don't have to coach the pistons and you get 85 mil okay look i get like you don't want to coach, but when you guys throw the narrative of salary cap and luxury tax and all this bullshit that you use, do y'all, do we, no one ever says, like, I've never heard big media ever says anything about these deals, right?

You got bucks, right? No matter who they trying to get this year, media ever says anything about these deals. You got bucks, right? No matter who they trying to get this year, how much money do they pay in coaching that is not there? That you could hire a whole other player. Yes. So let me ask you this. If they put that shit in the salary cap, if it was part of your head coach and salary

was part of your fucking salary cap, they'll stop that shit, I guarantee. Right? Yeah. Money has to be, that 65 count against your cap? Yep. After a season, like, no, we're gonna put that, we're gonna hit that, put that in your luxury. Yeah, put that in luxury. I guarantee you won't find. Right? Guarantee you won't find. Because it just, it makes no, it makes no sense with the arguments that you have. Like, they're going to say, oh, we're almost over the luxury tab. Wait, hold on, man.

You got $32 million at home on coaches. Then you just paid him 10. Shit, that's 42. You're spending $42 million on coaches. And you're telling us we can't get what again? We asked for, motherfucker, all PlayStation 5s of PlayStation 5 to this bitch you give us a hard time See what he's like, but is am I right though like you're sitting at home This man is about to sit at home making 65 million dollars and y'all about to hire you another coach to do the same thing

That he would it did not mother, you're going to play this contract out. You're going to earn it. I'm paying, listen, I'm paying for something. I don't give a fuck what it is at this point, right? You're going to give me something, but I'm not going to fire you because I still owe you the money. You go home, $65 million of my dollars going in, I got to pay somebody else who's going to sit there and say,

what, I need five years, 55 years. So that's $110 million that I'm paying in coaches in the same time frame. So this is double, I'm paying double the money on the same losing-ass team. Milwaukee paying three coaches. Three coaches. Boonehoser, Griffin, and Doc all getting. I'm telling you like this,

hey, Doc, Boonehoser, and Griffin. Y'all coaching together. Yep. It's going to be, hey, every other game, God damn it, hey, you just rotate. Like starting pitchers. a doc boone heiser and griffin y'all coaching together yep it's gonna be it's gonna be a every other game god damn it hey you just like starting pitchers this is like a starting pitcher god damn it hey first half quarter a shit come on then you get it yeah you're just gonna switch you motherfuckers out this is crazy coach coach hey go ahead yeah yo go get doc in the back come on go get your turn all right, Griffin, get up out of here. That motherfucker like, hey, listen, listen.

Listen, let that fourth quarter come in. And then the coach come in and everybody start cheering like, we got hope. Come on, man. Let's go, boy. Like in Major League, bro. What's the name that's coming out? You know, like when that final pitcher comes out, like, oh, shit, we got him.

You got to do that, man. I'll be dead. I'm paying you as an owner, and your ass just sitting at home watching, trying to get another job. That's crazy. Hey, yo, so if you're Detroit, right, and their team is young,

would you try to go get Stan Van Gundy again? They got to go somebody. They got to get a younger... All right, so look. I think they need a younger coach. Like, okay, like, look at the talent I have, right? Most of these kids are on the offensive side of it, right? Okay.

They're... They need a player... They need a coach who can talk it and walk it a little bit. Right? So you're talking about somebody who's young enough to play the ass one-on-one Can still out shoot him right and it's gonna say and speak the same language that they kind of speed That's probably what Sam can sell Sam Right that that is the perfect like at this point when you're looking at a Detroit Pistons

You're talking about someone like he's had he's seen all high-level type of guards, right? He done seen them all. So when you're talking about Cade, this is the perfect dude for you because he's done seen me, John Wall, right? He was with Rondo. Stefan, like, he played, right? He done with the Clipper joints, he had Chris Paul.

So he's done seen every style of coach. I mean, of players. He done seen all the high level. So he would be someone that these guards, like you're talking about, yo, I need to heighten your skills. These are the things we need to do. Let's go. Would you bring Rondo in with him as assistant?

I wouldn't. I'm not the dude that forces. He has to pick his own lineup. This is right when you say- You were talking about guards. This is like your first job. It's one of those that's like, this is your job now. Pick your staff to match. I can't already prejudge and have someone waiting for you. That's just, it's not a really good thing. It's a lot of situations these days, though. If you were a guy like Sam Cassell, though,

trying to get your first head coaching job, would this job even be worth it? Fuck yeah. Absolutely. Them motherfuckers won 14 games last year. But my point is, shit, they might win 15 next year. I did better. I did better, yeah. This year. I ain't lose 28 my point is, shit, they might win 15 next year. I did better. I did better.

This year. I ain't lose 28 straight. Yep. Shit, they'll... This is the worst... I lost 26. This is the best situation to go into because this last year, it'll be hard. You have...

Listen, if they didn't have no coach, they can't... You really can't mimic exactly what they did this year. There ain't no damn way you can go 28 in a row. Same record without a coach. Lose 28 straight, look the way it look. You lose 24 straight, shit, you didn't lose, you didn't do. That's an improvement. You know what I mean?

So, like, whoever gets that job, whoever is looking to be that next coach, it is an upgrade in a sense of you, they're at the flow level that it's all uphill from here. So, girl, I know you've had some situations, some issues with Detroit in the past. Would you consider taking that job to mend those fences with the Detroit Faithful? Come on, bro. Piss his job. We can do Gil's Arena from Detroit. Me and player development,

we're going to... I'm playing ones every day. Man, they're going to have... I'm going to just be honest with you, man. They're just going to have to put my room in the arena, man. I can't go anywhere in the city. On YouTube and Instagram, they said I can't fly to Detroit.

I know it's usually people in Section 8 housing, so they don't count. But the fact that they said it, I got to take it. It is Detroit. You got to take that shit for the word. This ain't San Francisco people talking about, oh, yeah, don't come to the city. This is Detroit. So you have to, like, look at the history and be like, yeah, I'm just going. Man, just stay at the MGM. I'm just going man just at the MGM

I'm just gonna take this as true I mean all he didn't spell none of the words right right, but I know what he's trying to say And he said you can't fly here Not even a connector no Delta flights for good. I said no no no spirit. No nothing I will listen if I gotta come come... Not even for charity. They're like, man, not even if I give back to charity? Nah, brother. Let's talk about some other NBA news.

With the season over, teams are not able to negotiate with their own players before free agency officially begins June 30th. Pacers lock down Pascal Siakam with a four-year, $189.5 million max contract extension. Siakam can't officially sign the extension until after the league's free agency moratorium ends on July 6th. Are y'all doing Juneteenth beverages? Ladies and gentlemen, the season, the NBA season is over. It is Juneteenth.

We are getting turnt up to celebrate. Oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you. I brought the cut, the gentleman's cut. Steph said keep talking shit. He gonna keep talking shit. I wasn't even talking shit. Like, I had to be my top eight. Like, I don't know why I missed everybody.

I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Steph still sent the gentleman's cut. I'm not gonna lie. Steph's shit strong, man. Strong. 90 proof. It's 90 proof.

Gentleman's cut. Mm-hmm. For a gentleman. It ain't. You ain't gonna be a gentleman. Every time I take it, man, I go to sleep right after. So perhaps it would have been a good idea to take it a little bit later. I didn't know what it was until I thought it was regular-ass Hennessy.

Like I said, Pacers' Siakam agreed on a four-year, $189.5 million max contract extension. Siakam averaged 21 points 8 rebounds 4 assists in 41 regular season games with the Pacers and in the playoffs he averaged quite similar

22 8 rebounds 4 assists so what do y'all think about Siakam and the Pacers keeping this relationship going with the

4 year max contract extension I like it personally I think he's proven NBA champion all star I mean they paid to buy I like it personally. I think he's proven NBA champion, all-star. I mean, they paid Tobias Harris all that money. So, I mean, I know he's worth it.

Yeah, no, you feel well with them, man. They need to score. They need somebody to go get a bucket. They don't rely on Tyrese Hallenburton to spoon-feed them. You know, Pascal can go get a bucket. So, no, they had to give it, yeah, no, he earned it. Played solid during the regular season, played well in the playoffs. Hey, shout out to him, man.

Hey. Mm-hmm. Part of their future. Yep. He's still young, right? He under 30? Yeah, he's 29. That's what I was looking at.

Oh, yeah. So. Yeah. Oh, he's 30 now. He turned 30 in April. Okay. Okay, well shit, pshh. Yeah. Oh, he's 30 now. He turned 30 in April. Okay. Okay, well, shit, he's right. But still.

What contract is equivalent to that? What do you got? Out there. Was it four for 190? Yeah, who's around that? Like who else is in that category? Let me pull it up. That's a free agent right now or that's just-

Just period. Just like that four-year one. How much Tobias Harris get? What type of player? Shit, Mikael Bridges is going to get that. Mikael Bridges is going to get that? Oh, okay. I mean, okay then.

Yeah. Let me pull it. Let me pull it. Because I'm thinking about the rookie deals and I'm like, well, he's in his own category. Yeah, Sabonis is like 4'1", 186. Tobias Harrison. Wait, wait, wait, who? Sabonis.

Is 4' what? 186. 186. When did you sign that? 2024, yeah. Oh, so he... So it's all the way through 2027. Okay, who else?

In that four-year range, obviously PG's about to bounce out. He had a four for 176 with that starting in 2021. Okay. Oh. He kind of, yeah. That's crazy. He going to get some NBA, yeah.

I was just trying to see if it was one of those deals where you got... Yeah, I see KD, four years, 194, but he signed that 2022 as an extension. So obviously the money for the bread is different now. So one... Then it's a good deal. But I'm pretty... It's a safe deal, too. I'm pretty sure.

It was a safe one. Obi going to get the same. So they have enough bread now to re-sign Obi Toppin, or they can use like $12.9 million non-tax payment? He can get some more money if he leads, though. He can get more if he leads. Okay, so my question was, I remember I said this earlier with Pascal. Would he have gotten this money somewhere else?

So, like, for this bread, could I have gotten... I overpaid Clay and overpaid a Paul George. Would I still be under this? I think you'd have been in the ballpark. In the ballpark. Yeah. So would that have been a better deal if I can get Clay and Paul George, even though I overpaid them?

I don't think you'd be able to get both. You would have had PG. Yeah. No, I'm just talking about Clay. You don't think PG would go back? You could have got Clay at like 25, 30 mil, and then something else on top of that. Clay ain't even offered 20 million right now I'm just saying huh?

Clay's not even being offered 20 million So I'm trying to see if I would have got both of them for the same price Are you could if you got if you got those two and knock his PG's gonna want well You don't think clay can get 29 a year my 28 29. Hey, what do you make 40 last year? 20 and what was the deal they offered him? Well, it was like two for 48 or something 24 pop and he turned that down, and that's not even on the table. Uh-oh. That's a sign.

Other than that, I'm trying to figure out if, you know. Juneteenth guys are not feeling it right now. Like, you know, well, how about this? Is it in their best interest to keep the same exact team? So, because if they signed him and Toby, do they even have any? Obi Top. Obi, I mean, that's all.

Your name Toby. Toby today. Is there room for, is there any room for any improvement? Or is this it? This the team. This the squad they're rolling out with again. This is the team they're rolling out with.

Yeah, so brings me to my next question. I think Obi Top and Lee's. Obi Top, yeah. Beginning of the post they're rolling out with. Yeah. So it brings me to my next question. I think we'll be talking on these. We'll be talking? Yeah. Beginning of the postseason, Draymond Green said the Pacers were an 82-game team and not a 16-game team. You know, saying that they're a high-powered offense and the regular season will struggle a little bit with their defensive issues.

The Pacers went on to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals but were swept by the Celtics. What do the Pacers need to do if they want to go from being an 82-game team to a 16-game team? And it's kind of in line with what you're saying, they're bringing back the same pretty much the core of the same roster Yeah, do you do something with my own turn In today's game For who though? That's the thing. I guess I've been saying I think you should leave both but for who was the money

He should leave not like yeah, not get rid of him. Yeah, I think he should have been. I think he should have dipped. But they could pay him the most money, so I'd get him staying. But for who? That's the thing. He should be averaging two blocks, some chain. He's got one year left on his deal.

Oh, $19 million next year. Or $20, excuse me. Or do they need a two guard? He's going to year left on his deal. Oh, $19 million next year. Or $20, excuse me. Or do they need a two-guard? He's going to be spitting. No, I think that... Wait, wait. Isn't... What's the young fella?

Isn't the young fella Frazier? Who? How they play. They got Matherin over there. Yes. Is it Naismith? No, he's under contract through 2027. What about a bench?

I'm saying... So you got Matherin over there that didn't play. He's still on his rookie deal. Neb Hart, he's still got two more. He's under contract through 2026. He's still got two more years left on his deal. Okay. The Jason Smith kid, what is he?

Jalen? Jalen. Matherin? Player option. Benjamin Matherin, he's still on the rookie deal. Matherin's still on the rookie deal. He can go. He's got a team option 26.

Yeah, he can go. And what position he play? Two guard, right? He's a two. He a buggy, and he mean it. Yeah, but he was, you know, missed the playoffs. I think this was a safe, like, I think. He ain't playing the playoffs.

Yeah, I think the idea of what Indiana is doing is saying, all right, we secure Pascal. These young guys are going to be a year older. Ben is going to be back. We can probably do some damage. So for them, this was a bargain. You got Pascal with a bargain. I mean, a guy who averaged, I can sit there and say he's going to give me 20 a game, like clockwork.

You got to pay for that all day. Yeah. Right? I mean, it's a guarantee 20. And I think that's the problem Klay is having is this is my worst year and I average what? 18, 19? It's my worst year and I put up 19. But you're also getting older.

But on my worst year, I put up 19. So I have to be worth. You're talking about two you know, two points or what? That's about what? 300 more points? This is a lot, but... Clay averaged 18-3 rebounds. Two of his 77 games this season. I'm averaging...

39% from three still. 43 from the field. 300 points is 100 threes, though. 300 points is like 100 main threes, though. Huh? 300 points is like 100 main threes, basically. Yeah. But that money is very different from just three points,

it seems like. And I can see why he's struggling with accepting, because it's... Still averaging 18. Yes, I'm still averaging 18, right? So if I'm getting booed at 18, this is crazy. I'm getting booed at 18. I'm still averaging 18, right? So if I'm getting booed at 18, this is crazy. I'm getting booed at 18. It ain't different though.

Clay just turned 34 averaging that 18 now for us to want to give you. How about this? Do you think Clay will play worse next year? I don't. I don't, right? I can't say. I don't. I think he'd be a better version just to be up yeah I he won't shoot 39 again from three you just

already depends on situation you get to a squad no I'm just saying if he was if he was that Golden State of you think do you think that he will play worse than he did this year like we can say this was probably all the elements that hit at the right time, and this is what I got. I got 18 points a game. But do you think he signs a team-friendly discount deal with the Warriors? He would be a little

saltier. I don't think... I don't think... He would still go out and hoop, though. But my thing is, let's say if he did go back to Golden State, they can't play the same,. The league didn't caught up to it. The rest of the NBA didn't caught up to the style of player the Golden State would. So unless you switch it up it's Steph has to work entirely too hard. Clay has to work entirely too hard to average 18. Steph got to work entirely too hard. Klay has to work entirely too hard to average 18. Steph got to work entirely too hard to average what he is.

Another piece. You know the funny part about the Golden State Warriors is they're a four-man, nor they're a five-man can shoot the ball. In this NBA. Right? In this NBA. So the NBA that they created, that Steph created, they don't even actually have like fours and fives can't right it's it's it's this is just a guard offense right it's not made for

our four and a five so they're they're doing it more like Dallas than they are like the rest of the league and I don't know if they try to upgrade, right? You find a five-man that can stretch that floor. You find a five-man that is... What five? They need a lively or a gaffer type of guy. I've been saying they got to get young athletes. They need a guy who can... I can do a pick and roll with Steph,

and I can throw that motherfucker at the rim. Only one they got now is the Jackson kid. They just traced Jackson. They just started playing him. But he did play solid. They need a rim runner. Like, Steph needs a rim runner. They need a rim protector.

I've been saying it. Like, Kevon Looney is a solid NBA player, but he's not a starting five. Nah, he's not. He's not. He's going to give you solid minutes when you need him. He's going to offer his rebound. He's going to do what he do.

But in this NBA, you need something to fit this NBA at that four and that five position. Big Draymond Green for him, but it's... Even if I have Draymond Green, even if I have Draymond Green, my five men need to be an impact on the rim itself. Right? So when Steph does that pick and roll, and he's diving, right, you want to trap me, and I throw

back the... Even if I can't get it to him, I throw back the clay that's on my same side, and he dumps it in. I need someone that's going to put pressure on that rim, and the fact that they don't have it is easier to guard Steph, which is harder to guard Steph. Now, if you put him

where someone, he does a pick and roll and that motherfucker's diving, now you have to treat him like every other guard. You got to treat him like Luca. Shit, we got to sag. We got to sag

because we can't let this dude just roll. We got to sag or we have to, can't switch it because obviously.. We got to sag or we have to... Can't switch it because obviously... Yeah, it's some young, good bigs. You know what I mean?

So you got to get... They got to find a young big that can put Presh, one of them high-level OB... OB? OB. That'd be a good pickup. Absolutely it would be. Now, just with someone who can just dunk and just throw

lobsters. And he's shooting threes now. And he's spreading, and he's spacing the floor. So you get both. Now, Steph is harder to guard. So now you get both. You get a rim, because he dunking that bitch, and he's shooting that motherfucker now.

And you got to respect the shot, too. And you put him out there with them, he going to shoot. He'll become a better shooter. Hey, quick question. Just by being in that gym with him. How many shots you take? One just now? One. Oh, I feel the same way you do.

Oh, OK. How about you? Just one. I feel the same. Oh, I'm just making sure. It ain't you. I got a little lower. Yeah, yeah. You see, I was getting a little lower. I was gonna say in a minute,

I was gonna let us finish this subject, and I would be like, yo, I don't know about y'all, but I'm fucking tipsy. Hey, yo, sorry, Chet. I'm sorry.all, but I'm fucking tipsy. Hey, yo, sorry, Chad. I'm sorry. You might need another one just to get... No, hell no. Hell, I'm dead. You are on your own. Another round? Yeah, another round.

Another round, please. It's June. It's Wednesday. Hey, right. But it's... We free. We free today. Alright, I'm gonna just be honest. We are free every day. Just quick question about the rim runner thing. No, no, no. Well, hold on right before you go ahead. Yeah, I don't think is wrong Caucasian This is holding us back as a side we should get like this is, we should get RJ from a black woman. Did y'all see

this mic on Chris? Chris. Please turn it off. I should have cut you off. Please bring it. Back to basketball. Bring this boy another shot.

You know what's funny now? The black, you gonna put me to work on Juneteenth? Yeah, you gonna put me to work on Juneteenth? Goddamn. That's what Holla does.

That's what Holla does. Very desperately trying to be on camera here. We can't win for shit. Wait. Back to basketball and the rim runner thing with the Warriors. We're forgetting Kuman. That was funny.

It's Juneteenth. It doesn't matter. It's Juneteenth. It's Juneteenth. We're forgetting Kuman as a rim runner for the Warriors. But he's a 4. He's a 4. He's a 4.

He's a 4-3. You can play Toppin at the 5. Are we playing Toppin at the 5? Play him together. Power 4, but you can put him at the 5. He can play at A5. play Toppin at the 5. They are. Play them together. He can play they 5. Miami play Bam at the 5. True.

So him and him and Youngfella can play the 4 and the 5, right? They need them. They need young athleticism. They can play Kaminga and Toppin together. You got Trace Jackson coming off the bench, which them three young athletic bigs give you something. Obie makes shots, right? Yeah. Which helps.

I love how a patient discussion turned into the Warriors. Oh, yeah, we did. We moved. We moved to go. But the Pacers, yeah, they... Shout-out to Pascal. See how I can get this bread, man. Shout-out, Pascal. Hey Pacers, yeah, shout out to Pascal. See how I can get this bread, man. Shout out, Pascal.

Hey, man. Yeah, no, that's it. Hey, my collar look drunk. I'm looking at it like, man, my shit look lopsided. You got one shot, dog. You got one little shot. That's why y'all can't take me nowhere. Let's talk a little bit.

Before we talk about Mavs, let's talk a little bit about these Celtics. I'm like hand sweating over this shit now. Like, yo, what is in that? I'm over here like Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I'm looking glossy like a motherfucker too. What? Yo, my hand sweating. I feel like, listen, I feel like this.

I feel like this right now. I feel eyes glossy. Good thing you this right now. I feel eyes glossy Can I get some water warm no no no no Juice yes here. Let me just pour this out ladies. Oh it is it is Juneteenth Like the water and water and shot does not really it doesn't all that water it down there. Download the Dark Fantasy app. You can promote Go Kill. Get the dilute that shit as it's bonus down. In bonus down. Jesus. So before we talk about the Mavs, let's hit the Celtics a little bit.

I know we talked about them in depth yesterday. You gentlemen, we're not on the couch. So there's been much discussion, debate. My shoes untied? Hey, you just ain't a good shoe tire, Gil. You just ain't a good shoe tire. Is that it? You just ain't a good shoe tire.

Yo. Bunny ears, dog. Bunny ears.'t a good shoe tire. Is that it? You just ain't a good shoe tire. Bunny ears, dog. Bunny ears. Is it only the days I'm here? I don't know. Nah, because I just be... Right, it was yesterday. It was like that too? So you had a tie yesterday.

I know you had the tie on Monday. Ladies and gentlemen. You didn't tie that? No, I didn't. Meanwhile... It's only Gil. So there's been much discussion and debate over who really deserved the finals MVP. Square Media picked Jalen Brown.

Most people agree with that decision. So despite the attempts to cause a rift between the duo, Tatum has been extremely supportive of Brown winning both the Eastern Conference finals and finals MVP. So after Brown posted a pic on his IG of him holding the finals MVP and Larry O'Brien trophy, Tatum commented, MVP with three exclamation points. To which Brown responded, we both the MVP. It's like

Red and his dad's beach cruiser. It's both ours. We did it. So two years ago there were talks about breaking this duo up and now they're NBA champions of the world. So after all that they've been through, and now they're NBA champions of the world. So after all that they've been through, just for all y'all on the couch, we've seen them get close, not get over that. We've seen the talk and the conversation around it.

But how cool is it to see that Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum's relationship has remained strong despite all the outside noise? Man, it's solidarity, man. And, you know, we can't... You know, we are part of media now, and, you know, sometimes we, you know, choose sides in the fact that, you know, there's so much pressure on just duels in itself, right? Just forget what... If you take the media out,

the pressure just being one and two is very difficult. When you add the media and they got you second guessing each other, second guessing your playing style, from questions they ask, how do you feel about this? And there is a lot of self sabotage and know, when you're trying to accomplish something. So the fact that everything they've been through with rumors of being traded, this person has to go in there. So the fact that they... they lasted through all hour as media bullshit

and won a championship and standing strong together, man, just, you know, just makes it, as an athlete, just... You're proud for him. Well, you all have been in locker rooms. We talk about this stuff all the time. There's going to be battles. Nobody that's a number two, I don't think, looks at themselves as the number two other than maybe Paul George.

But for the most part, there's going to be dissension with guys. But for them to be able to unite, get this thing done, finally win that championship. Hammer, how cool is it for you to see that they still have maintained a strong relationship and they're rocking with each other? They grew up together, man. They came in as kids. They lost together, heartache together, trials, tribulations, listen to the media. No, it's dope that the front office and ownership didn't pull the trigger.

Like, through the down times, it's easier to jump ship. And they didn't. So in this situation, there was a light at the end of the tunnel. There wasn't a train coming. So it was actual, literally a pot of gold for them. And for them to stick it out and to always have one another's back, no matter what outside sources might report or might think or might try to suggest,

they knew what they had, they knew what they were about, they knew their relationship, and how it would feel to win together. Yeah. And that's what they did. And shout out to them young men. Yeah. They've grown, like I said, they've grown together, and let's see if they can continue it.

Let's see if they can get them, I'm saying more than one. And I think them understanding what it really, really takes, sacrificing certain things to win, I think is going to play in their favor. I just want to throw this out there. I think the people, like the media, the people that actually vote, decided before game five who was going to be the MVP. No, yeah, I mean. I think they decided before. It was already decided because it was Jalen Brown's to lose.

Exactly. It was like Jalen Brown would have had to put two bad games in a row and take them. I don't even think it was even... Like, when we watched game four, right, the way they played,

they all together as a group played horrible. That's what we said on Monday. No one stood out, right? So if they're all playing bad together, that means they're all playing good together. So there was no way he was going to have two bad games

if they're playing well together because how they play is through each other. Even though I say, oh yeah, you're sitting in the corner, that's how it's designed. Okay, I'm going to go here, pass it here, he pass it here, shot. I pass here, pass here, you fake it, you shot. You drive, you kick it. It's a cohesive offense, which means if they're balling, they're all successful. So Tatum's playing well, Jalen's playing well, Drew's playing well.

Like, they're all, like, piggybacking off of each other. So, you know, even if it's a premeditated, you know, decision, it don't. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's all like, I feel, I think they all feel like we all had a part in this. Right? We all, right? So you won it, we won, right?

It's better than that motherfucker over there. Yeah. Let me ask you this. I know it wasn't going to fucking happen, but... Like, Jalen Brown said that we both MVP, right? Because they both did what they had. Like, you can't... It's like splitting hairs at this point. Mm-hm. That's why I'm...

Yeah, you got to give it to somebody, I guess. See, but do you? That's the... Like, why can't it to somebody, I guess. See, but do you? Do you? Like, why can't it? Like, why is something, like, there's just time. Because you only bought one trophy to the fucking arena. There's time in history. Right? Because you only bought one trophy to the arena.

That's why you got to pick one. And I get it, but there's times in history where it is so close that sometimes it just has to be a tie. Yeah. There's just some things that you shouldn't have to. Make another one. Right? You just shouldn't have to, like, the dunk contest with Ford.

Tie! Yeah. Tie with the things that y'all got to come back next year. Y'all both are winners. Right? So there's no salt. Right? This is, you're both won, just like co-MVP, or co-rookies of the year. There's just times in history where, man, everything is not decided by somebody's

vote. The fact that you have 11 voters lets you know what type of bullshit you on. And why do some of these, I don't follow names, man, why some of these people get votes? My partner texted, my partner, My partner texted me the other day and the person that worked for ESPN he was like, why does this person get a vote? Why is she qualified to get a vote? I think we can...

Yo, shout out Holiday though. Let people go look at her. Like in the second ring. And then we can talk about I think what you said earlier, you said, man, I think we were talking about trading one of them, trading the Jalen or Jason that you was fighting for. This is why you got to keep them together.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Like you've been always saying that. So just going back to what you said and seeing them win, I mean, it's true. Like just you got to find two killers, and then you got to just build pieces around them. Like, they've been through the IT time, Kyrie time. Shit, they went to the finals.

Shit, the Gordon Haywood, like, trying to experiment. But they always had those two together, and they just kept building it. So just for, like, other organizations, it's like, yo, when you got two killers young, I believe it, like... That's a testament to Brad Stevens, though. That's a testament to old basketball, man. It's the yeah, well you got two killers young. I believe it like Brad Stevens though. That's the testament to old basketball man

it's the testament to old back I know I I I Teased the 80s and all that stuff, but I do watch everything I do watch Championships I do watch Kareem magic, right? James worthy right you looking at who they're building around okay this person so are they they chose magic so they got rid of Norm Nixon so this team is built around these two entities right so now they have the compliment they have the compliment magic so what kind of garden are gonna bring in right and then boom now you need someone like a James Worthy. So you're seeing that these two are the entities built around it.

Same thing with Larry Bird and them. Same thing with Isaiah and Dumars, right? Shaquille O'Neal, you can see the same thing when Houston, you can see the same thing in San Antonio, right? It's they found their pieces that they're saying, this is who works together, now let's just keep putting in. If we can find another song when one of them get old to, alright, we got Kawhi, okay, boom. Here you go. You get more of these minutes.

But I don't think people in the organization themselves are educated on history. To understand, identify your main players, your two or three, and then you build a team around those guys. Right?

Calvin Booth, basketball mind. Tim Conley, basketball mind. So he's going to identify his guys and then every piece goes around there Right, and I don't think every organization understands that Yeah, Tim Connelly took the same concept in Minnesota Yeah, and then talk about brass brass teams what he did with the Celtics keeping Tatum and Brown together for saying look I'm gonna bring drew in I'm gonna bring poor Zingas and make that tough decision to get rid of Marcus smart

Who was mr. Celtic for a long time. She didn't get rid of Gordon Haywood. Yeah, which, you know, it's being real. But this is what needs to be done to make this team a championship team and to see it work out. So next question for you guys. We talk a lot of times about best duos in the league. Did this championship cement Tatum and Brown as the best duo in the league

heading into next season? No. Best duo? No. I hear you laughing on Juneteenth. All right, now. Two black men.

When we talk about, like, when we talk about duos, like, I've seen, but was it Stephen A. Smith who had this duo up there? Yeah. And... Of all time or just right now?

All time. And in the next season, just the best duo. Look at the best duo in the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they won. Hmm? Yeah, they won. So?

And they come back to the same team, yeah. Makes them the favorite. What is the criteria? Right, it's, you know, you got, obviously, Kobe and Shaq. No, no, no, no. No, he said going to the next season. Not, believe me. I mean, everyone's.

Leave that gentleman's cut alone, ladies and gentlemen. The thing is, everyone has a strong two. Everyone has a strong two. This is not a duo. This is a three-headed monster. You got a dude averaging 22. Like, you got... There's 27, 23, and 20, right?

That is the... That's the kicker right there. Who has a big three? Right? So when we say big two, you know, LeBron and AD, even though they didn't, you got Jokic and, you know, Jamal, right? So everyone

has that. I mean, you got Jimmy Butler and Bam. Right? I mean, Orlando, you got... You got Benchero. That's about it. You got Dame and Giannis. You got Tyrese, Max, and then B. You got Dame and Giannis. You got Tyrese Maxey and Embiid. You got Dame and Giannis.

Yeah, see, that's not... You got Chris Middleton. You got Chris. Chris Middleton is a kicker in that. Yeah. So everyone has a big two. So that's just, you know, that comes to... You know, you got Logan Kyrie.

So, you know, I don't... You're going to have to really dissect everyone's two. You got Katie Booker. You got to really dissect everyone's two. That's why I just eliminated all that thought process. They just fucking won and then they're coming back to the same team. So yeah, right now they're the best two.

But they also have the best team. Give me, I'd rather say who has the best big three. And then now that is a real... Right? Because it's only really just somebody who's averaging 20. You got them. You can go Ant, Cat, Gobert.

See, that ain't a big... Well, I mean, that's a big... It is a big three. One defensive guy. It's not. I know. Clippers? It's not.

That's not anymore because they're not... Names-wise. I mean, that's what I said. Clippers names-wise not. That's not anymore. Names-wise. Clippers names-wise, but other than that, they have a real big three. Yeah. So, you know. Anybody can put up 20 pieces. Yeah, you got a third option averaging 20. Think about that offense you have. Everybody eating, though.

Everybody eating. Drew's the fourth option? How much they signed him for? 133, I believe, for a year. I want to be on that team. Fourth option. I want to be a fourth option on that team. Seems like the perfect situation for him.

He got a lot of criticism in Milwaukee in recent years for his playoff struggles. Now able to go over there, just lock in on defense. Milwaukee was hurt. No pressure, yeah. Milwaukee was hurt. No pressure, yeah. Milwaukee was hurt. They were. Just because they was hurt. He got the L. Fourth option.

Think about the fucking fifth option. Shit. The fifth option is what? White. And he averaged it, what? 15. 15, 17, yeah. That was the fifth option over there. And when you're talking about trying to get paid, those are the type of teams you want to be on. You want to be on a team that plays like that

because everyone gets to eat. Same thing in Indiana, right? You're in such this high-octane offense where everyone is eating, so there's no real ego here. So if I'm averaging 12 on my team and I come in there and I'm the fourth option but I'm averaging 12, my team and I come in there and I'm the fourth option but I'm averaging 12, I'm the second option or third option on this team,

I'm fourth option doing the same thing, I still get my value so there's no beef in here. So we asked the chatter, Tatum and Brown, the NBA's best duo, 59% said no. On Juneteenth, thriving on negativity. So now let's talk about the NBA champion adjacent Dallas Mavs.

What y'all on? I drink water. Hydrate. Hydrate. I'm going to just be honest. I don't know. Where's your black side? I don't know.

Hydrate, Gil. Well, the chat says I'm Hawaiian. What do I got to do? What's today? Wednesday? Nothing. Nothing.

Nothing. School's over with. Now you use today, Wednesday? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Now school's over with, so. Now you use that shit. Go and lie. Nothing. Nothing. He wanted to try. He tried to find something. Cheers.

Cheers. Fuck. Yo, this shit dangerous, man. I don't even know if y'all understand, listen, what I'm going through over here right now. Steph Curry. Oh, shit. Steph Curry. Curry from deep. Curry from deep, Steph Curry. Curry from deep.

Curry from deep, I'm sorry. Curry from deep. Okay. Very pungent here in the arena now as well. Curry from deep. Kenya brought his own smoke machine. We appreciate you for doing that. Get him off of me. Second hand. Bust out of Justin Timberlake shake.

But after finishing 11th in the West and missing the playoffs last season, Mavs bounced back this year, made their first final since 2011 behind a historic season and postseason from Luka Doncic. And some big trades at the deadline to strengthen the roster on the defensive side of the ball. So when you just look back at what the Mavs were able to accomplish this season, what are your thoughts on the Mavs' season? I mean, they're okay. They need some... No, no, no, no. That's real, season? I mean, they're okay.

They need some... No, no, no, no. That's real, though. I mean, they got to the finals. They got to the finals. They got two dogs. I think they realize they need another playmaker. They need somebody else that can do something when the ball is swung to them

and not have to just solely rely on catch and shoot. I Think they need to address the defensive thing like all the time, but other than that maybe I'm in a young or two young bigs But yeah get another playmaker I think Yeah, but I Gave them a grade of an A. For the season? For the season. I thought that what the team did with that roster, A.

What Jason Kidd did with that roster, A. Right? You know, just like I said, you know, going into that championship game, when you look at it, you're like, ah, this is not a fair fight. Just like with Spro, right, the team he had, the AAU team, the fact that that AAU team got to the championship, right, that's what you got to get graded on. I got to grade you on what do I expect from you and what did you give me.

Right? And we didn't expect them to be in a championship. There's nobody at the beginning of the season that said, this team is going to be in a championship. Nobody outside of Dallas. Dallas. There's nobody in Dallas that said, we're going to go to the – we 11 seed last year. Right?

We talked about when LeBron was supposed to go there and he didn't come. We were like, who the fuck? We didn't get nobody, right? So the fact that this team made it to the championship, being very limited with the defensive woes that they really had, it's an A, man.

And now there's expectations on you. And what you do need to improve in is you really have to luca really has to just get in shape not offensively we know offensively you're a gifted mind right just little things you do just there's little subtle things you do that that lets me know man you're, very brilliant when it comes to offense. You're seeing things that there's just other people that can't see, right? When you're moving, how to plant on this foot, pump fake, seeing somebody's body moving. You know how to manipulate a defense.

You're not in shape to move defensively, right? You're not in shape to move defensively. You're not. And to get to that next level, you're going to have to be in shape to play both sides of the coin. Because just like what happened, they're going to pick on you. Because they know the only way to neutralize you, to get you in foul trouble and get you tired. Because just like any defender, we know we can't

guard you offensively. You're just that gifted. So we're going to have to beat you on the defense end. We're going to get you in foul trouble, try to get you out of the game, get you frustrated on this side. So he has to improve in a lot of ways.

A lot of ways, man lot of ways a lot of ways We're in the crying and all that stuff that you have to not the skill set of basketball He has to go in a lot of ways and not the same to do it But yes, nothing do a skill set of basketball and then PJ Washington. I think he realized he's more than just a corner, dude right, so he has to understand that he can possibly be the third, the real third wheel where he gets to create off the bounce and do a lot of things knowing that you're going to have the third or fourth defensive player on you.

So you need to really work this summer on working on moving with the ball, cutting back door, like really look at this series look at your playoff series and just and just look at how people played you look at the guy who's guarding you what did he do how many times did he turn his head on you how long was his head turned before he looked back to see where you were right you know i mean those are the little things that you really got to take in when you're looking at film, right? Sometimes we just look at film like, oh, I'm about to get my shot here.

No, look at all of it, where you possibly could have got a shot, where you possibly could have drove and got a tip dunk and little things like that where you could have ducked in on the guy. Those, when you're looking at film and you need to, you know, go from averaging 14 to 20, those extra six points might be two back doors and offensive rebound to put in. Right? And so you have to figure out how to manipulate that.

Right? We in the penalty. Oh, I didn't even know you. I thought you. When we in the penalty, when we in the penalty and Luke and them got us in the penalty and I got the ball, now I know to be extra aggressive because those fouls, now I get to free throw line. Absolutely. Right? So those are those things you got to pick up on

and you need to focus on this summertime. Do you see Dallas getting back next year? Back where? To the finals, or do you think, like, this year was just the... Like, they got kind of... Like, do you feel like they got kind of lucky because of injuries and stuff? I wouldn't say lucky. Yes, they got lucky. No, they got lucky. Okay, yeah. You think they got kind of, like, do you feel like they got kind of lucky because of injuries and stuff?

I wouldn't say lucky. Yes, they got lucky. No, they got lucky. Okay, yeah. You think they got lucky? Who got hurt? Yes, nobody got hurt. I mean, Denver Nuggets had to play the Minnesota Timberwolves in the second round of the NBA

playoffs. Everybody got lucky. With a janky cap, a Montgomery. It's a bad matchup second round. The NBA got lucky. Call it what it is. But do you see them like... People don't understand that.

When you go into the playoffs, it's all matchups at that point. You don't want to match up wrong. Yeah. Because it is seven games, right? So it's a grind it out. And if your players don't have an advantage, that star player could be neutralized. Yes. So it is really all matchup.

Do you see them being a big threat next year, Dallas? I mean, like, okay, say if they don't get the pieces that you think they should. Well, first they're going to need a bench. They're going to have to find a bench. then they're gonna have to you say a two guard i mean i know another it's a third yeah another playmaker don't have a ton of wiggle room at the stands they don't trade they don't have money they ain't got no money they got they gotta be creative that bread is committed they gotta be creative do you do you think that... Got him. Oh, that was killer. Got him.

Yep. Do you? If he's still alive, he ain't happy. That's the tip. Oh! If he's still alive, he ain't happy. Got him. That fly fucked with the wrong one.

But like y'all were saying, you know, for the Mavs to basically be able to improve upon this roster, they're going to need to get creative. And we can talk about the trade and that roster improving defensively after the trade deadline, but all that bread's committed as it stands right now. They got to figure out how to wheel and deal. I'm going to just be honest, man. Like, when they get to the playoffs... Hold on, would you finish? Yeah.

Would y'all like to say anything for that? Now this is fly. When Dallas gets to the playoffs, man, you really have to deal with Luke and Kyrie. As one of those teams, as long as you get to the playoffs, like Luka and Kyrie's skill set kicks in, right? And, you know, as you can see, they individually, together, they can carry a series because, you know, when you have someone like Luka, Luka's no different than someone like Jokic, right? Even if he's not scoring, he's doing so many other things

on the offensive side that he's putting points on the board, right? Rebound and assist. And like he's putting so much pressure when they're on offense that they're going to generate, you know, points that can, they can get past the first, second round.

My question is this. As an organization, when you look at your roster and you're looking at your pay and you know you can't really move much, are you satisfied with what they did?

From what you have over there? Yeah. They're overachieved. They're overachieving. And I think that from an organization standpoint that... Because we got two really, really good... Yeah, I'm good.

Two really, really good basketball players who made some moves at the trade deadline to help us. And P.J. Adden-Gafford. Yeah, they're overachieved. I don't... Like, from not making the playoffs last year to making it to the NBA Finals? True.

Shit. So you think... That's what I said. I'd give them an A-plus this year, though. Yeah, from not making it last year to not even giving yourself a chance last year to make it to the NBA finals. True. Shit. So you think... That's what I said. I'd give him an A-plus this year, though. Yeah, if not making it last year, not even giving yourself an A-plus last year, bouncing back. We was not talking about Dallas making it to the finals.

Not at all. We were talking about Dallas making the playoffs. You know what I'm saying? Just making the playoffs. Like, okay, five, six, okay, but... And before the deadline, it wasn't like... Like, when people say, like, when people say, man, they played bad,

they got exposed. Like, you're talking about a team who was no one thought about Dallas past the first round, if they even got here. So the fact that this team did go to the championship, it shows you just the will and how good some of these guys really are. We can talk about Luka Krein, and he don't play no defense, right? All we want.

But the same guy who didn't play no defense walked through three series to the championship, and he just fought against a better beast of a talent. And led the entire playoffs in points, rebounds, assists, steals, fucking turnovers, fucking everything. Everything. Right? So no matter how much they want to laugh, like, fucking turnovers, fucking everything. Everything. Right?

So no matter how much they want to laugh, like, I don't give a fuck. You can put any, any, any highlight you want of how bad the man's defense is, but I know if I'm him and I say this, for all the great defensive players y'all see out there, who stopped me? No matter how much defense you're going to give credit to, he can say, who fucking stopped me? I have nobody on my team outside of Kyrie. Everybody else, you know what they are. Corner, corner, pick up.

Who fucking stopped me? You want to talk about this defense and shit? Everybody I played with can't play defense either What they were doing to me I was doing it in two round after round the Clippers great defensive players all in round after round after round Bad defense made them look stupid and that's that's gonna be a true true statement Yeah, right. He is special at what he does. And as an organization...

You got to hold him accountable. Yeah, you got to hold him accountable. The players got to hold him accountable. J. Kidd, starter, first and foremost, it's a respect level there that J. Kidd can say things to Luka that most coaches can't. Players as well. Just hold him accountable in areas

that y'all need him to be better in, man. And I appreciate you. He wants to win. Yeah, he wants to win. This shit hurts. Getting here and lose, it hurts. Yeah. But does he need to hold himself accountable?

First and foremost. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Because there was talk even this posting, some of his teammates being disappointed with the lack of defensive effort, all the bitching. It comes to a.2, 25-year-old. You got to look in the mirror. Yeah.

You got to look in the mirror. You got to be acceptable to criticism from your teammates. Go from there. Calling people's mothers hoes. That's about it. You know, like. Called a hoe bitch, right? I love it.

That was some Slovenian right there. You know, somebody was like, yeah, Luke Dorton held him. Right, the man had three triple-doubles in that series. Yeah, that's the narrative. Fuck, I'll go with that media shit. Three triple-doubles. He held him to a triple-double, okay. Three triple-doubles in that series.

Like, all right. Jalen Brown got a ton of praise in the finals for taking that Luka matchup. Luka still averaged a 30. He averaged 30. You know what I mean? And then the excuse is, well, he was averaging this against this. It don't matter, right? As bad as you're making him look, he's making y'all look real bad,

and y'all are defensive players. So, you know, it's one of those things is as much as you want to hold him accountable, he has to want it himself. He has to be able to look in the mirror and say, you know what, I personally need to do better, and this is what I need to do better at. Because you know he can do it, because the games where he decided he wouldn't go bitch

and talk to the refs, he did it. For those very few fleeting moments. Very few, yeah, yeah. He did. It was too far in between, but... And people don't understand this. Once that becomes a habit of yours, you don't realize you're doing it

until you see yourself doing it. Right? Just sitting there, just yapping. Goddamn foul, right? Come on, man. You're just not going like... The ball going down, or you're just constantly back here.

Constantly. It's a thing, so you have to take the Michael Conley approach. And they're never going to change their decision. If they didn't see the foul, they didn't see the foul. If they called it out on you, they called it out. So there's no point in me getting emotional about something if I know the result is always the same.

But I don't want to piss this man off. It's hard, though. That's the European mentality, though. That's how they play. Like, they do that. Like, they just... Cry. I mean, yeah, it's just their...

And that's the funny part. That's just how they... They cry, but they call us the crybabies. Weird. That's what they do overseas, everything. That's just how they... Let it be known on Juneteenth, Gil. Let it be.

Well, because overseas, they can get you killed. They got the country. They got the countryside, so...enth, girl. Let it be. Because overseas, they can get you killed. They got the country. They got the countryside. Hey, ref. Hey, you know where we are, right? What was that shit Yogi said? You're lucky we wasn't in Serbia. I was like, damn.

For real. Yeah, for real. You lucky we're not in Serbia. Go to Serbia. That's a threat for that. Me too. So, Kenyon Kyrie, one of your favorite players. What did you think about Kyrie this season?

Obviously, in the past few years, kind of had some negative stuff following around, a lot of that media driven. But this year, it looked like he was happy, ready to play basketball, and really enjoyed himself and playing with Luka and this Mav squad. Yeah, and I was able to silence all the noise, man. Being in Dallas, it's a more laid-back environment. Just go down there and hoop and be out of the way. I think he's done a good job at settling his thought process, and his circle has always been what it is.

Just going out and playing basketball, man, and having a stable situation where you know where you're gonna be for the next few years. You got a guy who you know you can rely on that doesn't require the limelight, and it's all about winning. And, you know, I'm excited for Kyrie. He's...

You know, skill set is what it is, man, we all know what Kyrie can do on the floor So just being being in the right comfortable situation I think and knowing that this is going to be stable and this is what we have as far as him and Luca Yeah, I think goes a long way man, to have an organization behind you that believes in you, that supports the person you are, not trying to change that person. I think it goes a long way within the locker room and as an individual within the locker room. Letting you be you helps.

Just that constant people griping about certain things that who you are and how you're doing things. I don't think he's getting that in Dallas. So he's able to go out and play. It's not the New York media. It's not the Boston media. It's not the Boston fans. It's not the New York fans, the Brooklyn side of it.

It's not the LeBron fans that hates Kyrie for leaving. So he's able to be there and just silence the noise. It's not the LeBron fans that hates Kyrie for leaving. So he's able to be there and just silence the noise. And that's what you get in this play. So, yeah, it's dope. For sure. So we'll look forward to see what the Mavs do this offseason. I think they have the last pick in the draft.

That is their only pick. All those other ones. Come again? Come again? The last pick. I'm just pointing it out here. Just one? The 60th? 58th or somewhere like that.

60 picks, right? Yeah. Damn! Did somebody lose their pick? I better try to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Tampergate. So, their 58th pick's in the draft.

Who is that? Toronto? Lakers? Hold on. Let me see. Because I know, I remember back in the day, didn't Phil Jackson and Lakers get it? Suns lost their second round pick. I know Phil Jackson got what, fine,

when he said Chris Bosh was a nice player. I'm like, damn, you can't even compliment those in a bowl, huh? And the 76ers lost their 2024 second round picks. So the Suns lost their second round pick and then the Sixers lost their 2024 second-round picks. Huh? So the Suns lost their second-round pick, and then the Sixers lost their second-round pick. For tampering? Yeah, you can't be doing that tampering.

You got to have the players do it amongst themselves. Adam Silver don't play that. I don't mean to be rude, because, you know, I mean, you know, as a Laker fan, are we going to say that Embiid and Paul George... On tampering? No, you can't tamper if it's players. No tampering if it's player to player.

Even if one is the franchise player and he speaks for them? He's the process. He's the process. He makes the rules. I mean, that's the tampering. Listen, I don't give a fuck if the organization call me. I don't fuck with them anyway. Do you want me, bro? That's the tampering. Listen, I don't give a fuck if the organization call me. I don't fuck with them anyway. Right?

Do you want me, bro? That's all that matters. Do you want me is all that matters. The organization themselves is really relevant. I don't care what someone from the organization says because for the most part, I'm pretty sure no one even knows who the owner of the team really is. Yeah, that's true, bro.

I like that. I like that mindset. It's like, yo, I don't care. You want me to come here and play with you? I don't care like that mindset. It's like, yo, I don't care. You want me to come here and play with you? I don't care about these people. That's the same thing I want with the Denver. Mellow, like, yo, man.

You want to come? Yeah. You want to come? Yeah. Because I'm going to be around y'all. I'm not around them. I'm playing with him. Shit.

That's the tamper. That ain't that motherfucker up there. Everybody's like, yeah, this organization is so... Okay, why is it so good? Yeah. You start asking why is it so good? Why is it so good? I will just keep this- You ain't making no money. It ain't- Keep this thing going. Keep this thing going. I'm dead. Everybody's like, yeah, this organization's so... Okay, why is it so good? Why is it so good?

I will keep this thing moving. Stay in Texas in honor of Juneteenth. Celtics may be the now, but Wimby is definitely the future of Adam Silver's NBA. And as Wimby gets set to represent his country in the Paris Olympics next month, he's back in the gym putting in work. So Jamal Crawford posted this photo of him and

Wimby in the lab recently, getting some work in. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You know what time it is, bigs. You know. Okay. You know what time it is. Yeah. Sacre bleu. Ah, ah, ah. Ah. Yeah. So back in January, Wimby pulled up to Inside the NBA and had this exchange with Crawford. Can you do the Crawford double behind the back shake and bake? Can you do that move in a game? Oh, without a doubt. No hesitation. Without a doubt.

He said yes. Can we see that this season? The coach I had in France, his name is Kareem, that taught me the sham guard, for example. He also taught me the double behind the back shaking base. And this is something I work on. Wimby, if you pull that out. Will you be first on cross-dial?

I may have to show you the extended version. I've never shown anybody. But I'm going to hand that gift to you because you can do it. And you will take it to the masses. He's giving him the gift. He said I'm going to give you the extended version. What do y'all think about Wimby working out with Jamal Crawford. You know what time it is, man. Bop, bop, bop, bop.

About to just extend the game. We finna see something we probably never seen before. We already seen it. We ain't seen this type of handle, though. So let me ask you this. He's 7'5". Mm-hmm. We ain't seen this type of handle, though. So let me ask you this. He's 7'5". Mm-hmm. Why he need that?

I'm extending my game. It's to help my game. Get your ass on the block. I'm getting better. That extends your game. Get your big ass on the block. The handle and lifting weights. Get your big ass down there, man.

Yeah, get your big ass down there. Wait, what did you say? Get your big ass down there, man. Yeah. Go work with Tim Duncan. How about that? He's already working with Tim. Daily, more.

More? Probably is. More. We probably just don't see it. Yeah, the Tim man, like, they shopping at Old Navy. They doing everything they done. No, no. Now, Winky got more swag than that.

Extra wide. I mean, I'm not mad at it. You know, just getting help from someone who is a specialist at something is always, you know, it always helps. Right? But just at the end of the day, you got to know what you're lacking as a player and improving that. Right? Before you get to the dance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before you get to to the day yeah yeah you know where you get to dance no

um so long I know like some of the what's so funny is I know someone look just watching and studying Jamal's game I can see like certain things he would do for him and it'd be more of misdirection type of, you know, like between the legs, like I'm about to go this way, wrap it back this way, right? Come with the crossover, come, fake it, go back this way. So it'd be a lot of misdirection on pick and rolls and screen type of plays.

You played with him, right? No, no. Oh, he wasn't on the team? I just, he wasn't on the... No, he wasn't. I just... He's 7'5". But it's his style right there. Who he going by? Huh?

Whoever wanted him. Whoever right there. You playing small on him. You gotta play small on him. No, you don't have to play Rudy Gobert on him. Okay, that's one... You don't need to fuck out of Rudy Gobert here. That's four times a year.

Yeah, I got four motherfuckers I can... So he can get that Embiid? Huh? He can get that Embiid? He can get that Jokic? AD? They're going to tell him to shoot. Neither one of them are going to be up there playing defense like that for him to bring that shit out.

No, they're going to get caught on the switch. No. I mean, they're going to get caught. Man, Joel Embiid. We're going to be out there, motherfucker. Joel Embiid ain't going to press up on me. He ain't going to have time to do that shit. He's going to motherfucking shoot that shit. If he comes down and hits two threes, he will.id, win, be out there, motherfucker. Joel Embiid ain't gonna press up on me. He ain't gonna have time to do that shit. He gonna, motherfucker, shoot that judge.

If he comes out and hit two threes, he will. He's not. Joel Embiid doesn't... I don't mind. Trying to enhance your guy. I get that. I get that. It's more of the thought process problem.

Yeah. There's a lot of other people that he could have went to seek knowledge from at this point and get to Jamal Crawford. I'm a big Jamal Crawford. Same draft class that, yes. You're 7'5", big fella. Like...

I see something different. Let's learn that bank shot. Let's learn to face the motherfucker up and shoot this thing off the glass consistently. See, he probably sits with Tim so much. Like, you know the fact that he said his trainer in France gave him this style. That means that boring basketball

might not be ready. He might not be ready for just, we're going to sit here and we're going to turn the face. We're going to hit the bank. He might not be ready for that. You might need to keep him with crazy shit like this. Just to keep him entertained.

Beards get lazy though. And he a big. And he a big. Just to keep him entertained. Just to keep him entertained. Bits get lazy, though. But bits get lazy. So for him, he's something different. Just motherfuckers get lazy, period, doing the same thing. Like, I'd be sitting there like, all right, we're going to just do one dribble pull-up. Right? We're going to just one dribble pull-up. And then I just wait and see how long before he alters it.

Like, how many shots before he decides to one dribble, give it a little step side, before they start playing with just the basics of it first. Right? Because you have to know how long before. Like, if he just sit there, 100 straight same mechanics, like, you can teach him any move.

Right? Because ADHD didn't kick in right now but we did five moves and he's oh man this is shit boring let me you know go ahead spice it up then it lets me know that yeah you're not very great at the basics and the people who are excellent in this world at their craft, they have perfected the basics. When all fails, when every fucking move you try to fail, the basic is what it is, right? No matter what move Kobe did and after he come out of it right it what is a regular ass jump shot so he had to perfect this regular ass jumper first before he does all this extra shit because when he does this it ends to this and that's that's what a lot of trainers don't understand when you're

training these kids right all the moves is cool but what is his baseline look like right can he hit 30 40 in a row like what is his capacity level how many shots can he he take before he decides like i'm bored he's gonna just start like you have to know that part of him first well from what we saw this season before he is before he starts yes you want to do that you want to all listen before he tries to excite himself because remember that happens in a game You got a player who sits there and when the game gets boring because it's too easy. He has to Because he's bored he done average 36 of you motherfuckers, right? He averaged 36.

He doesn't score 30, 40, 35, 45, 50, 50, 45, 45, 60, 55, 50. What you think the rest of them games are going to start looking like? This motherfucker is going to start one leg, come off the leg. He's going to try to experiment now because being regular is boring to him. And is that a good or bad thing, in your opinion? It's a good thing when you obsess with being boring. Right? Like, even with Kobe, like, some of those fadeaways,

double-clutch fadeaways, spin, spin, out of bounds on three people, that's just him just... I'm bored. Yeah, I'm bored. I'm trying some shit. I'm bored of this shit right here. It ain't... When you guys were hooping, how often did you just say, fuck it, I'm just going to try some shit. I'm bored of this shit right here. It ain't... When you guys were hooping, how often did you just say,

fuck it, I'm just gonna try some shit? I didn't. He said, I didn't. He said, I'm gonna one dunk or two dunk. No, I just worked on shit I needed to work on. I just knew where my shots was coming from, man. Now listen, man. I just knew where my shit was coming from, so I didn't...

The most I did was work on some shit, Okay. I'm gonna start shooting threes this year Okay, how long did it take you to get to that point where you wanted to expand out? Yeah, I just shoot him here and there but what I said I was gonna shoot more this year Then I worked on that that summer like I'm okay. I'm extend my range or something. I mean our next season but now I went in and Start shooting but shit I was doing. Okay, Tim Duncan good at this motherfucking bank shot. Let me just... This shit must be...

Yeah, that's what I'm going to add in my game. Shit, listen. This shit what Amari do. Yeah, yeah. Shit, how did Amari get to that one? Oh, yeah, I'm going to add this to my... Yeah, that's how you do it. Yeah, that's what I'm doing.

I'm not... I'm about being efficient and effective, dog. I respect it. And, Garno, you said you used to track guys, try to see if you could do their moves, you know, I used to keep a log of just Like Like if I see someone do a move and I'm like, damn, what was that? Let me go ahead and add that and then I work on the summer even though I probably won't use it I just have it so I

Perfected it to the point when it comes at me, I can see it because I've done the mannerisms. I've done, like I know, like, all right, when Tracy's coming down, because I've done, did this 300 times a day, when he's coming down on me, I know the movement because I got it from him. Right? So I'm more on it than you know I mean that's what I'm saying a guy who was I'm not I'm not you know I'm not Luka bad I'm not I'm not wasn't Luka bad on defense right I was more why Luka gotta catch a stray on Juneteenth I'm just saying I wasn't Luka bad on defense right but I wasn't like you wasn't calling me out to play defense so you know for the most part it was more that because I had learned everybody move that when it was coming at me, I'm like, I'm on it.

Right. But, you know, it's everything you everything I see is reaction. Right. And it's just expanding your software. So when you're moving, OK, here come the double. OK, right. OK, now I got to split. Right. software so when you're moving okay here come the double okay right okay now i gotta split it right and that's all it is is just expanding your brain to just do stuff when you need it to

when you need to do it right i can't sit there and all right okay kenyan did a 360 pump fake double dunk i can't just go in the game and just do that i gotta done try that shit a hundred times first. Okay, I got to talk to God. I got to talk to God. My damn back hurt. My damn back hurt trying to twerk this shit. I remember when I seen Rondo.

This is crazy shit. I seen Rondo on a fast break at Kentucky coming down full speed and hit him. Motherfucker jumped out of bounds trying to swat him. Turned around, boom. I went home and was like, yo, I need this move. Fast break. Practiced it all summer

to come on a fast break and say, shit, I'm already here. Come get me if you can. I didn't try that shit not one time. I'm already here. Jump in me if you can. I didn't try that shit not one time. Not one time did I ever sit in those. Show it. Yeah, show it and go look.

And I practiced it all summer, but. He said, I'm already here. I'm always like, as soon as I turn that corner, I'm coming down. I'm trying to jump. Yeah. Right? So it was just one of those things that I put the time.

Same thing with floating, right so it was it was just one of those things that I put the time same thing with floating right? Mm-hmm No, I practice the floater the year-old step and it's like I Mm-hmm, like this little shit right here. Like I'm trying to get to the rim these motherfuckers can jump Yes, you see that and the motherfucker snatch You know I embarrass you that? He didn't block it. He grabbed it. Ah! Give me that little fella like,

oh, man, I mean. I don't do this no more. So I practice a lot of shit that I just never, ever use. But that's anybody who creates stuff. Like, I'm pretty sure if you tell Kyrie, show me some shit you've never tried in a game. Oh, he's got a whole bunch of shit.

He's got a whole bunch of shit he's never unleashed. We get to see some of that never tried in a game. Oh, he's got a whole bunch of shit. He's got a whole bunch of shit he's never unleashed. We get to see some of that every once in a while with special stuff. So just looking at Wimby, year one to year two, he's got an Olympics to really help tighten his game up as well. How much of a leap do you expect Wimby to make next season? Shoes are untied. Damn, both shoes are untied.

You're just not a good shoe tie. I don't know, man. All you're doing is sitting here. Nobody else's shoes, man. You be twiddling your feet too much. Your shoes ain't doing that, man. I'm an expert shoe-tie. Is it the laces?

I don't know. Yeah. Is it the might have to double? He needs velcro. He just sitting here, like... I need them straps. Yo, no, that's like, yo's like yo it is real shit. I swear That's why you see somebody wheelchair with a shoes on top. What you doing? Yeah, my son. No, not listen No, my son man. We'll be in the car

He's six. I look better. We've been sitting still for a while or how are your shoes untied? We just we got in the car time before we get out. I tied him. Mm-hmm. I know I double-knotted How your shoe untied right now. Maybe you should double knot your shoes or get Velcro. Do they make Velcro for adults? I never had this product because I always wore sandals. Orthopedic joints, right? They wear Velcro for adults. That's some orthopedic joints. They got the Velcro for the little kids now to look like their shoelaces. That shit is baller. Definitely gave it some thought. I'm lazy, as y'all know.

Like to save time. What leap do you expect Wimby to make coming into next season? Doing all this stuff, going to have an Olympics. I mean, potentially be defensive player of the year, All-NBA. Should he play in the Olympics? Yeah, he has to. Yeah, it's in France too. Yeah.

But I understand why you're saying that. If it was somewhere else, should he play? No, like I would take this year to get going on my strength and like getting stronger and getting prepared for next year. Just because the second year was that sophomore year and it's like... For him, this is his first Olympics ever. This is his first Olympics.

He's like... Yeah, he wouldn't have been able to be on the 14th. I understand him playing. I understand. I think this is more exciting for him. It is, no, absolutely. With everything surrounding it, friends, everything, yes, absolutely on one side. But what we're saying is going into year two, he needs to get stronger. He needs certain things.

But if it was, yeah. But he definitely is going to play in these. Damn, 21. I just hope it doesn't, like, because I'm sure he's going to be doing a lot of stuff this summer. I just hope he finds time to, like. Tap into it. Like tap into his real craft. And get ready for year two.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Get ready for year two. And will it be a burnout? That's what I'm... Right? And that's what I'm thinking. Going into year two, will it be too much going into...

Listen, that's a lot of person, man. Him? That's right, man. That's a lot of person to be... Man, listen, he's... A lot of basketball. Yeah, he's the number one pick, man. Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. You motherfuckers got... Y'all got extra shit y'all got to do. But he's 7'5", though. Yeah, he's the number one pick, man. You know what I mean? You motherfuckers got extra shit y'all got to do. But he's 7'5", though. Extra shit, right? You got to do the interview after this game, god damn it. We get to go home. You number one for a reason, god damn it. You're supposed to do all the interviews, god damn it. Sign all the autographs. Kiss all the god damn babies.

High five everybody. High five. And your ass better be on time at practice tomorrow. Your long ass better be happy running out there with that thing. You know he's going to be out there running with the thing. He definitely has the torch. He's going to be the torch. Get your ass out there. Yeah.

We're at the city. Damn it. Yeah. Big ass out there. He's going to light it from where he's standing. 21-10. 3.6 blocks. I mean, a leap for him is damn near 28, what, 28-12, 28-14.

They're going to do it. They're going to feature him. Pop ain't going for that shit. They should trust him. Yeah, yeah. They're going to run a lot of plays for him. Yeah, it's going to be, yeah. It's going to be a big leap.

And what's so funny is if they just created an offense around him, the leap is already the leap. Absolutely. The fact that he wasn't part of the offense and everybody was hating on him and he averaged this, just tweaking the offense for him puts him in 26, 27 automatically. Absolutely. And he's gonna play more minutes because he didn't play as many minutes down last year.

He didn't even tweak an ankle, nothing this year, right? He was smart, though. I've been talking about that because I was wondering why they didn't throw him more lobs, but with all that traffic and the paint. I think his parents, we have to thank his parents, too, for really being mindful of how tall he was possibly going to be and understanding that flexibility was going to be a big key to him not getting injured because he did yoga at an early age.

So still doing it. Yeah, still doing it. So really flexible. So his body is used to doing certain things that a normal athlete who never did yoga can't do. So Spurs got the fourth and eighth pick in the draft. Free agency on the horizon. They got a ton of cap space. Do you think the opportunity for other older

vets around the league to get the chance to play with Wimby will make the Spurs a hot free agency draw this summer? That'd be the right situation, man. That'd be the right people. What do you do? The team is so young. He's so young, right?

It'd be a bad move to try to spend money when he is not in form yet, right? He is not in form to really dominate at a very, very high level, right? He's not where Jokic is or where Giannis was when he won a championship, right? Or even in B. Or in, yeah, we're not even, right?

So he's not in that form yet to sit here and pay a whole bunch of veterans, right, to help him. He's not, he's still, like, developing. So I, if I'm them, I'm really going to be mindful of what I spend in the next few years. And then when time is right and I say, okay, this is the year he's going to take this leap, go after those free agents that summer to really build with them. Would you get a guy like Trey Young though? Like, like a Trey Young to come in with him? Like just, cause I know you say he's not there yet, but you don't think playing with Trae Young can actually, like,

build something there with those two if Atlanta didn't want to, you know? I mean, I don't mind a player like Trae Young because of the outside shooting, the pick and roll, his passing ability. Like, we talk about Trae Young scoring, but his pass ability is great too. Right. You playing with Trae Young? Him, see, I don't even, like, when it comes to, like, size and height, he neutralizes any being small guards, right?

So, you know, if you have four small guards, it really don't matter with a guy who deflects shots like he does. So, you know, I think just finding the right pieces that complement his his game right now He is number one. I don't even know if there's a was there a possibility of a second option there Yeah, the Johnson key right here the Johnson kid. Yeah, is he a legit second option or is he a third option? Oh, he acts like he is. He's finding a second option. He plays like he is. He shoots that thing like he is. No, I know. I mean, yeah, he shoots that thing like he is. I mean, they've got Kelton Johnson, they've got Vassell. I think he needs a point guard, though. I think he needs a good point guard.

They need a facilitator, man. Like somebody that can shoot it like a young person. You come off the pick and roll, you're forced to, like... You've got to make a decision. Yeah. Trey Yonra, speed demon. Someone who's fucking fast as shit. So what should or Speed Demon, someone who's fucking fast as shit.

So what should be the approach then for the Spurs? I'm not even saying a big name free agent, but it seems like guys will want to have the opportunity

to play with somebody like a win. Fourth and eight pick, shit, you got wiggle room to do something. Yeah, but tough draft.

It is, it's traded for now, for later. I'm trading one of the picks for Trae Young, though. You just, you got the first pick. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to trade one one of them picks for Trae Young, though. You got the first pick.

Yeah, I mean, I'm going to try to trade one. And the Hawks got the first. The Hawks got the first pick already. Yeah, see, so they're not. And I'm saying, if this was a draft where it was like, ooh, it was an exciting one, I could really rebuild my franchise. But like you guys always say, there is some talent in that draft. You just got to find it.

If you're, if you're, if you're. I don't know how good the SARS kid is, right? You know, him and Wimby on the same team would be crazy as shit too because they both are like guards. So one can play the 3-4. So you got both. They can play 3-4-5, you know, so have them on the same team. But they did play with Tim Duncan and David Robinson before, so.

Would you give up your fourth, fifth pick, one of your fourth, fifth? You got four and eight, so. A lottery? I mean, a fourth, fifth pick, one of these players for that number one pick? I would. If you're learning, would you take it? Because right now with Trey Young and the age of your team, he's too young for it.

So this could be a number one pick who can end up being a bust because y'all don't play him the way you want to. Right? Because who are you going to put in him a capella? Yeah. You know what I mean? So he can end up getting put into a situation that doesn't benefit him and his growth.

So if you're Atlanta, do you think about that? I would. Interesting things. We're ready to be seen. We'll see how it progresses. But obviously the future is super bright with Wimby. I got some unfortunate news to report out of the WNBA. Sparks rookie forward Cameron Brink has a torn ACL.

Suffered at last night's game against the Connecticut Sun. Needed assistance leaving the court. Obviously, we indicated it was a serious injury. She's the number two overall pick. She was averaging 8.5 rebounds, two blocks per game this season. She was also set to play on the USA Women's... Three-on-three team.

Yeah, three-on-three team. So just your reaction to the news that Cameron Brink suffered a court. I mean, I seen it last night, and it looked like... Like it wasn't just a normal fall. It looked like... I't just a normal fall. It looked like, I don't know if she slipped on something, but when she collapsed, you can see it was more serious

than just an ankle or just a sprain of anything. So, speedy recovery. Well, unfortunate, man. I mean, you just hate to just see talent just get hurt. Especially rookie year. Yeah, especially, man. I mean, you just hate to just see, you know, just talent just get hurt, right? Especially in your rookie year. Yeah, especially, yeah. Now, can you deal with the injury coming into your rookie year, right, and the end of your rookie year as well?

Just, you know, mentally, how did you stay locked in and focused despite all that kind of, you know, unfortunate situations? First and foremost, like you said, it sucks not to be able to finish your rookie year. You know, you're excited about it, been looking forward to this moment. And for me, I think it cost me rookie of the year. So, no, it was definitely disheartening. But to remain strong, man, you just got to believe, man. You're going to play again.

You're going to come back bigger and stronger. The one my rookie year was easy to come back from. The one going into my rookie year, not so much. But, no, it's just unfortunate. We all know injuries are a part of sports. No, we just put the same time into the rehab as you do your game. Treat it with that enthusiasm and that same tenacity. You should come back bigger and stronger than ever.

But, yeah, just don't get depressed about it because it's easy to. Yeah, that's the hard part about it. It's easy to get depressed, man, When you want to do this, you want to go out and play and, like I said, you've been looking forward to this and it's taken away from you abruptly like this. It's easy to fall into a depression, man. Lean on

friends and family, whatever teammates that you're close with. I'm pretty sure they'll do a good job at being supportive, but it just sucks, man. It really, really sucks not to be able to finish your rookie year. And we talk about just that rehab aspect of it and how difficult the mental side of it.

But that's the most important part, right? You got to lock in almost harder than actually working out or doing whatever because it's the shit you don't want to, you know what I mean? You don't feel like doing it. The hardest part, this is the real mental battle. It's almost harder than actually working out or doing whatever. It's hard. Because it's the shit you don't want to, you know what I mean? You don't feel like doing it. You know what the real, the hardest part, this is the real mental battle of injury. Is when you first get injured, you get all the texts, oh, you know, you know, damn, that's, you know what I mean?

You get all the praise and all the love. Thirty days later, ain't nobody. Ain't nobody. Right? It's nobody. You're dead by yourself. It's like the things when you start looking at your phone and nobody's checking on you. None of this. Reality kicks in.

It's just you. It's just you and the world moved on. Right? So, you know, just as family and friends of her, the teammates of her, just understand if you've ever been injured, being left alone and forgotten about is the hardest part of the recovery journey. So, you know, even if you got to put it on the fucking schedule, right, every Tuesday, whatever, right, all y'all, every Tuesday, Wednesday, so she can still feel the love so she knows what she's fighting for.

Because the worst thing that you want to do is go through a whole summer rehabbing and your teammates never checked on you. When you come back to that team, y'all ain't the same friends y'all used to be because when she needed y'all the most, nobody was there. So just be mindful that, you know, these 30 days is expected. But beyond that. Beyond that, you know, August, August moving forward and since she can play again is when she's really going to need the support from, you know, the organization and teammates. Yeah, I feel like even with my Achilles, like you just said, like the first text, when I got my Achilles injury, the first 30 days, boom,

boom, but that Achilles injury made me become more selfish. I stopped thinking about other people first, and I started putting myself first. Like you said, it'd be days where you're being forgotten about and people start acting weird. And the most mentally thing is like you know is it be your friends and family members around you you know the ones that are uh like low-key be happy that you'd be hurt and and and you not you know not being able to progress so i don't know i just think like situations like that man you got to become

closer with god and you got to just be more selfish because you'll see everybody's true colors. Yeah, because when you, just piggybacking on what y'all saying, like for me, I was going through it, going through it, then I get hurt, right? Just you know that you're not healthy and then you finally have to get surgery and you miss time. And for me, I didn't want to go around. When I was out for that whole season, you can ask, I barely went to the gym, bro. I went to games, if that. I didn't go to practices.

I didn't go to shoot-arounds. I didn't go to team functions. I didn't do nothing. They didn't see me going through it, right? Sitting on that fucking couch with that CPM machine on daily. And to the point that y'all making,

you can count the guys that checked on you, that came by, and your relationship with them now is because of that. Yep. Yep, on God. Yep. And you remember that.

Mm-hmm. And as much as we kind of say we don't hold grudges or resentment towards people, subconsciously we that. Mm-hmm. And as much as we kind of say we don't hold grudges or resentment towards people, subconsciously we do. Mm-hmm. Because if a motherfucking name come up that didn't check on you when you were down come up, you automatically go back to when you was down and the motherfucker didn't, man, fuck him. He didn't come check on me. Yeah, fuck him. Right?

Yeah, no, that's true. Dare that. One of my college teammates to this day, his name come up, I tell him, man, fuck him. When I got hurt in my senior year, he didn't come, he the only one. To this day, fuck him. Dead ass. Did you ever talk to him about it, though? No, I saw him out and about one day, man, fuck him.

People trying to talk to him, man, fuck him. Say something else. I'm not trying to go to jail in Miami, but I will. You say one more motherfucking word in here. You motherfucking can't. Yeah, but you. So you became pinky on her? Yeah.

Ooh, ooh. Say it again. Right? But you remember those guys. You remember those times when you were down and the people that checked on you, especially your teammates. I played the first two games of the season, dog.

I missed 80 games in the playoffs. I know who checked on me. Uh-huh, yeah. I mean, injury is a wake-up call, man. Like, it was that, you know, sports is a wake-up call for us all because you'll realize who really there for you, who not. And that was definitely a wake-up call, man. Like, it was that, you know, sports is a wake-up call for us all. Because you'll realize who's really there for you, who's not. And that was definitely a wake-up call for me, and I needed that. And it's just you and that rehab.

It's you and that rehab. That mirror. Yeah, what you going to do? When ain't nobody around, are you going to go do wall slides? Are you going to go do these things? Are you going to do the stuff when everybody leave? Are you going to take the CPM machine off? Are you going to do these things? Because it's or you're gonna take the CPM machine off, or you're gonna do these things,

because it's just you. And you gotta fight them demons. You gotta fight that urge not to fucking work out that day. You gotta fight that urge to, like it's all of that. But for her, like Gil was saying, hopefully her teammates realize, man, she's fragile right now.

And she a rookie. Like I said, I had been through injury already before, like so, I was good, because the second wasn't that bad. But she's fragile now. She's still so teammates need to be there for her right now because it means something. That's what I said. It means like.

Because when it's shit together, then when you like, damn, y'all really don't fuck with me. Yep. And even if that's not the case, and they're thinking about the season, to the person that's going through it, trust me, that's all we have to go on is, like, just, that's what I'm saying. Just like a little simple shit. Hey, man, can we get back?

Like, hurry up. I hope you're attacking that rehab because we need you back there. Just a small shit. Make a motherfucker just be sitting there just fucked up, just be like, oh shit, let me get the machine. That right there, just a little text about, yo, we need you back

here. I hope you attacking your rehab. That right there might boost and make you attack it for real because you depressed. Yeah, like my team like my brother just go back when I got hurt in college like the three young guys on the team the Marge Johnson Kenny Satterfield and the Stokes right news came in my room they can lay in the bed with me bro mm-hmm like didn't leave

until it was like I was on meds and all that I'm dozing off DNA like it's that relationship that them dudes realize like damn off DNA, like it's that relationship that them dudes realized like damn, this big bro, like we need like this is, and my relationship with DJ to this day is strong as hell. Lenny to this day, Kenny like, so, and like when I was with the Nuggets, certain guys that was like, I just,

you hold on to those things forever. I don't give a, but what you say, you can suppress that shit as far as your brain, your thought, as you want to. But you don't forget. And I hope her teammates realize that she like, just go back, she really needs y'all. She needs y'all at this particular point in her... Basketball career.

Yeah. Shout out to Adam Semler. He hit me up when I tore my Achilles. He sent me a nice little text. Adam Sewer? Yeah. Damn. Yeah, he said, yeah, I was playing.

I mean, we was on a 20, damn near 20 game win streak. And then I tore my Achilles, he was like, he hit me on the WhatsApp. WhatsApp? Yeah. Hey, that was a catfish. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, man, that is just.

Nah, that ass. That was a girl named Big Bone Brenda, dog. Nah, man. That was the work. Nah, that was a catfish. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, man, that's just... Nah, that's... That's a girl named Big Bone Brenda, dawg. That's just... Nah, man. That was the work. Nah, that's... Well, that's moving on to... Speaking of getting calls, I got a call from President Clinton, nigga, so let's...

Really? That's tough. I got her from college. Yeah, yeah. Damn. She said, damn. Yeah. Block number or you got the...

Oh, no, it's one of them hold for the president. Nigga, no, it ain't no block number, nigga. It's you on the phone waiting. The president be's one of them hold for the president. Nigga, no, it ain't no block number, nigga. It's you on the phone waiting. The president be right with you. Hold for the president. Damn. Hey, K-Mark, Bill, it's Clinton. I just want to tell you, I ain't do it.

Talking to Bill Clinton on... Did you know the call was happening in advance? No, it's like they told me, like, Bill Clinton was speaking with... I had moved out of my apartment. I had taken him to a hotel. Okay. So I was in a hotel in Cincinnati, and passion the literature on the hotel phone hold for the president

Called you at the hotel Yeah That's kind of legendary. I know I mean you met Obama right? I mean, right? Yeah when you guys were in these no No, I seen Obama and took his chair. Wait. Well, so you guys didn't go to the White House at all when he, like, he didn't invite you? We didn't win. I know, we didn't win either, but we went to the White House and met him. When you play in D.C., you don't really go over there. But, like, when he came to the game, when he came to the game, you know, I was hurt.

So I didn't get to play, to talk with him like that. So the only thing I can do is I want that chair. I want the chair he set in. Give me that. And then had him sign it. Okay. How long was your call with Bill Clayton? It was brief, but I would have kept him on the line.

That was brief. Legendary Bill? No, that's on a hotel phone. So you can't even pre-record back then? I said, 90's too? You a- Then I went to a luncheon in Denver like years, like when I was with the Nuggets, and was able to, I went to a speaking engagement he had.

Me and him took a picture and I remember, he was like, I remember like, so he- Yeah. Yeah, big, yeah. Now Bill cool. Bill cool as shit. Bill cool, yeah. Bill said, fuck that, I gotta hit Kenya, dog. It was a sad day in college basketball, dog.

Bill Kenton a legend though. Yeah, man, look, hey, I. It was a sad day in college basketball, dog. Bill Kenton, a legend, though. Hey, man, it was a horrible day in college basketball, man. Sitting there doing a meeting. Huh? No. Everybody else was celebrating. A lot of people were celebrating. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all were celebrating. A lot of people were celebrating. No, them niggas were happy I got hurt, dog. Can't not go lie. B, them niggas were happy I got hurt. We was happy in Westwood. We're not going to lie. Listen, them niggas were happy I got hurt. See, Can't not go lie. B, them niggas happy I got hurt. We was happy in Westwood. We're not going to lie.

Listen, niggas happy I got hurt. See, he wasn't in college then. He wasn't in college then. These motherfuckers, man, was like Detroit Pistons mixed with Draymond Green mixed with Draymond Green. Charles Oakley, you know? Oakley. It was like. In athleticism.

It was one of those teams, man, where you looked and like, they shouldn't even be allowed in this motherfucker. Can somebody check these Bursas? Can somebody check these motherfuckers' Bursas? A-U-T. Yeah, the motherfuckers looked like Josh Smith and Dwight Howard and all them in high school.

Atlanta Celtics now, that motherfucker. Looked like Atlanta Celtics. Just grown. We was looking at the highlight tape. We was like, yeah, nah, we the best team in the country. We thought you were me. Yeah, coach gave us a reality check with a highlight tape and it was just, as soon as it started off, just boom. Like,

who is he? Damn. Is that this? They in our conference? Like, we don't know nothing about college basketball. We had to Google how far these motherfuckers way. Keep them over there. Defense, pressing, picking, body slamming. For the president to call me? We had to Google how far these motherfuckers wait keep them over there Picking body slamming like man to call me to pray we took something like this big deal man Yeah, I was picked to win that shit be like we was gonna run through these boys man Like that's a you got it. You got to watch them

Like it was you know because it was it wasn't just all brute because they were skilled to but the way they pull it was just the way that, him. He was like, him. It was like him and then like, they had Logan. Well, Kenny and Logue, point guards, both different skill set, but they both animals. Sat-ass and shit, Logue can score that bitch. Then you had two guards, it's fucking 6'9".

DeMar Johnson's 6'9". DeMar Johnson. Pete Michael's 6'7", 6'8". You got me and fucking Ron Fletcher or Jermaine Tate, 6'9", 6'9". So we started, dude, coming off the bench, we got, dude, it's Leonard Stokes, Mr. Basketball in New York State. We got Kenny from the city. Leonard was Mr. Basketball in New York State. He from Kenny from the city. Leonard was Mr. Basketball in New York State. He from Buffalo.

Mm-hmm. So he a freshman. So we stacked from... They were stacked. No, nigga, they were stacked. Like, I didn't even know how good Logan was. I've said this before,

but look, Logan came in my second year in Golden State where I'm supposed to be the starter. Mm-hmm. Right? And you know how you,

like, that two weeks before training camp starts? We're playing ones. Let's say he was kicking my ass. Oh my God. When training camp started, I called my dad like, yo.

Yeah, I think I'm coming off the bench this year because, man, that motherfucker over here is whooping. Like, I could not do this shit he had. He was just so crafty, strong, too. I wasn't strong, right? So it's just like little things he did to get his shot off, right? And he just understood footwork and pezzies. 5'11".

5'11". You know what I mean? Look like DMX. I think about when're 5'11", for you to be good, you have to be very skilled. So he was very, very skilled. The best thing that happened to me is we

had conditioning tests. And he couldn't get past the conditioning tests to practice. That's what beat him, is the conditioning test. That's surprising, too. And that is surprising, coming from where he came from. Exactly. Yeah, it was one of the things we had to afford.

Like, we had to do ten times back and forth. We had to do four sets, and he was throwing up after. And I'm telling you, it was one of the times I was happy that a motherfucker was out of shape. Like, hell yeah. So they couldn't make the team. Has he that month?

Yes. I never seen nothing like it. Yo. What's up? And it's a strong, we left weights out that bitch. He was strong as a motherfucker. Strong as a motherfucker.

And he defend. And he defend. Like, you had to defend. And you play for Bob Huggins, you got to play defense. So he played for Bob Huggins, and he had to play defense. We got one Mosey fans question on this lovely Juneteenth. You know what I'm talking about? From underdog user Valleyboy213.

That don't even sound right. 213 is not the Valley, but nonetheless, what was the first thing you did after the season was over, and how much time did you spend with family before going back into training mode? So first thing you did when the season was over, and how much time did you spend with family before going back into training mode? So first thing you did when the season was over. First thing you did when the season was over. Oh, shit.

I'll tell you, mine was light up. I was going to say, smoke a blunt. I ain't going to even hold you. I didn't smoke. I didn't smoke during the season, so... Smoke weed every day. Yeah. Absolutely. Shout out to the fans. Shout out to all of us. I smoke and I smoke during the season so I was weed every day. Yeah Absolutely

Cuz when the ball going I'm great. Well, what long is that ball like long as there's a jump ball I'm good Once that buff of the ball. Hey, you deflate that bitch and then we ain't bouncing it no more Once it hits your lips that first hit. Ah, yeah I'm I'm once my train start, hey, once I start that train up, it's downhill, no brakes. Smoke, train smoke, baby. After the season, I think I was straight to L.A.

First thing, I'm out of here. Yeah, first thing, straight to L.A. For real? Oh, that's, yeah, that's... And then back. That's it. Yeah, that's what I get, yeah, of course. You're from L.A.

Yeah. Who wants to stay in Milwaukee or Detroit or wherever else was that thing? Who's then them cities? Yeah, right I was like the first 48 hours. I Told myself that I'm gonna just sleep For two straight days because you know like, you know, my schedule was crazy like just like sleeping Playing video games all all morning um you know all the energy drinks a motherfucker take during the game right you can't you ain't going to listen i was not going to sleep at 11 12 with all that motherfucker red line and um what was that shit called catapult

whatever the fuck was that powder was taking nah so i'm up at three four five in the morning so you know it was like all right, I'm 48 hours asleep. No, that shit never worked. So basically the first, you know, 48 hours, I'm just video gaming the whole goddamn time. Yeah. Halo, trying to figure out how to be a professional Halo, even though I just use cheat box and everything and, you know.

Hey, do what you got to do. Yeah, I was on my way. Like I said, I spent most of my career in Denver, so, yeah, I was leaving, going back to Dallas, but... They got the fire in Denver, though. No, but no, at first, it was dry out. It was already packed up. It was all outdoor, right?

No, it was indoor, but it was just altitude. Dry out fast. So I was, you know, we were getting it from out here. We were going to Oakland. The way we was transporting, they was like, yo, your niggas is crazy. Certified nuts. I'm not going to let you say too much.

No, no, of course not. No, no, no, no, no. We ain't. Like, even with the family, I'm going to just be honest with you. That shit get tiring quick. When the season end, we be like, yo, hey a we got I want to be running

Motherfuckers no more. I don't call me And then you start dealing with them Then when the season star where body Know motherfuckers right now the season ended in April the the NBA season over at it There's players who didn't make the playoffs ready to start the season now Well hell I can't tell you Hell you go back home family members ain't doing shit. I was trying to be around my kids later. I wouldn't do nothing So we got both sides of the coin just remember your new your road lifestyle is very is very

entertaining so when you done and you can't It's just, remember, your road lifestyle is very entertaining. So when you're done and you can't, like, just randomly going to Miami on a goddamn Tuesday is not what's happening when you got your family around. Like, oh, yeah, I got a Adidas meeting in Miami for three, four days. Are we coming? Okay, yeah, yeah. You know what they can't? Ah, shit, they just canceled. Oh, you know.

Ah, they canceled. They said come back later. Win. So that is our show for today. Make sure you stick around for our all-new episode of Sheet and Tyler coming up next. There's some girls like this. Like, nigga, I heard what they said.

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