Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates If The Warriors Dynasty Is COOKED

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Gil's Arena Debates If The Warriors Dynasty Is COOKED as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew react to another brutal loss for the Warriors and debate whether or not this is the end for the core of... Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson. The crew also dissects the elite eight for the NBA's In Season Tournament and reflect on pool play for the NBA's first tournament before addressing the shocking news of Mark Cuban selling a majority stake in the Dallas Mavericks. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters INTRO 0:00:00 SHOW START 0:03:35 Jeremy Sochan's Ketchup on Pizza 0:12:10 Mark Cuban Sells The Mavs 0:21:14 Jason Kidd Wants Positivity 0:37:33 An NBA Player's Relationship With The Media 0:48:07 Revisiting The Josh Giddey Situation 0:54:08 Is The Dubs Dynasty Cooked? 1:01:38 Gil Explains Steph's Turnover Problems 1:07:58 Klay's Frustrations This Season 1:15:13 Draymond Gets A Tech In His Return 1:24:50 The Warriors ARE COOKED 1:31:32 In Season Tournament Predictions 1:33:35 Gil Previews Ja Morant's Return 1:39:56 Higher/Lowers 1:42:00 MostlyFans 1:56:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 or the locker room. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. What, what? What? What do we have going on here? What? Hold on, hold on. I'll be for a weekend. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:01:44 This is the arena, all right? Come on, hold on, hold on. This started at 5. I'll be for a weekend. Hold on, hold on. This is the arena, all right? Jesus. I'm sorry. We got to get right. Get me right. We are a black show.
Starting point is 00:01:52 We do black things. Mm-hmm. Okay? Get me right. You know what you're getting into. My waves. Always an adventure. Get me right before.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 Super cuts. Super cuts. I was alive with super cuts when I was in college once. You went to super cuts? A little trim. For real? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It was on campus. A little trim. Yep. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What it do? What it do? What it do? What it do? What it do? What it do? What it do? Yeah
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Starting point is 00:03:19 My fit games are questionable, but... Tough Crowd always got me looking right. But here's what we got cracking in the arena today. The Elite Eight for the end-season tournament is set, but which squad is winning the chip in that 500,000 rack prize? Mark Cuban sold a majority stake in the Mavs, and head coach Jason Kidd wants reporters to write some positive shit about Luka and Kyrie.
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Starting point is 00:05:19 And we got the correct address now, so I'm going to give it to you. It's 19-851 Nordhoff Plate, Unit 104 in Chatsworth, California. Make sure you pull up there December 16th. Do we know what time yet? Just show up. It said 9 a.m. on that. I'm like, that's early. Man, that'd be good to start off the year.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Honey, can't you start off the year? That's what's great at, yes. I'll get out of bed before 2.30. Honey. Hey, boss. I got to practice. Yes, I'll get out of bed for 2 30 Yeah, my boss Some of you ladies might be dumped It's like just like when 2k come out, you know me Be here for a while
Starting point is 00:06:05 Everybody's invited if you're the working, you have a jumper, pull up. Get your practice right. What is it? We're doing five shots from five spots? Yeah, so I think it's college three, which is a little in front of the... No, that's like a little bit behind the... High school. High school three, right?
Starting point is 00:06:20 So college three, five spots, five shots. Right, so a total of 25 shots. Okay, so we've got a special Mostly Fans question from Underdog User by the name of Shotmaker10. Shotmaker10? Well, I feel like this is Rashad, but... I'm practicing for the shootout. How many makes do I need to average per day to be ready?
Starting point is 00:06:39 And he also wanted to know, what's the most threes you've hit in a real game? I hit 14 in high school. He said no cap. I know, I? I hit 14 in high school. He said no cap. I know. I've never hit 14. So Shotmaker 10. So Shotmaker is his name.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Shotmaker 10. So he should know the answer to this. Yeah, so he already is fucking shooter. Right, Shotmaker. Shotmaker, for you to even have a chance, you got to take 1,000 makes. 2,000 makes. Yeah, 2,000 makes. Get his ass some tendonitis before the shoot.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Nah, but I mean... It's like what, 200 makes? 200 makes a day? Yeah. If you start now? 200 makes a day. Yeah. Makes, though.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Makes. So, you're probably shooting... Him? Shot makes. Shot maker. Shot maker. He should have been shooting more than 450. He probably from either Indiana, right? Probably Utah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Probably Arizona. Do those states produce buckets? Those are shooters? Shooters, yeah. Those are shooters states? Those are white states because he's Iowa. There we go. There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably is. Boston. Those are shooters. Those are white states. Iowa. There we go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably is. Boston. Boston? Yeah. I don't know. How many shooters come out of Boston? Mr. Shotmaker.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Mr. Shotmaker. We own you. Mr. Shotmaker. Yeah, yeah. We own you. What's the most threes that you've hit in a real game? In a real game, probably NBA 8. You are correct.
Starting point is 00:08:05 February 28, 2004, against the Lakers. How about high school? Wait, 2000 what? 2004. Oh, so that wasn't a 60-pointer game. I think you had like 35. 35? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Lexi, how about yourself? How many? I don't even know. Maybe five or six. OK. Yeah, I don't know. I don't be getting that many up. That's going to change. Any of you That's gonna change. How about high school?
Starting point is 00:08:25 I wasn't shooting threes like that in high school. Yeah, it was blow by. How about you? Do you know your career high for makes in the NBA? Seven. You were close. Eight twice. Eight twice?
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, you had seven during the 55. That was nice. Shooting that thing. Don't leave me open. When you were a piston and I'm waiting and versus the Kings. You're not 755. That was nice. Shooting that thing. Don't leave me open. When you were a piston, and I'm waiting, and versus the Kings, when you were with the Bucs.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Okay. It was too easy to get to the basket. So I didn't, you know. All right, so now this season I got to get eight or more. I think now, like, if you played, it would be way higher now. Because the three-line play. But I don't know. Like, I don't know if I will settle.
Starting point is 00:09:07 See, that was my thing. Like, back then, you're backing up because you want me to shoot it, which, no, I'm going to drive. So I'm not going to settle like the guys do. I'm just going to keep going to the basket knowing that you don't want me there. Yeah, but from your range, though, like, and the way they play. Like, I feel like you would have, like, 12 threes in this game. But you would have to shoot threes because even if you keep getting to the basket, they're going to go down and keep shooting threes. Cool.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Twos aren't going to offset the threes. 60%, 30%. Like, if you look at the top scores, they're all mid-range and layup guys. They're not very, they're not high three-point shooting makers. Besides Steph. And Luka. But even Luka is, Luka don't take a lot of threes. Trae Young takes a lot of threes.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But he's 26. We're going to talk about Steph and Luka a little bit later in the show. We got a lot to get into. But we got to start with some questionable coming out of San Antonio. So Spurs forward turn point guard Jeremy Sohan is still working on his court vision but is he seeing the vision with how he likes his pizza no that's disgusting oh my god ketchup on pizza oh my god no what you think about ketchup on pizza, man? Try it.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Try it. No. Yo, that's so dope. Like the vets, like the guys who played for me, they look like they stuck around. Yeah. They hang out in San Antonio, which is even more impressive. Just being real. No, not to the city.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It's not a premier destination. You never said, I'm going to San Antonio, right? No, but I mean, it makes destination. You never said I'm going to San Antonio It makes sense they thought they never really went anywhere else. Yeah, but I don't know any better you live there for 12 14 years That's actually your home. You could probably ball out San Antonio, though Big ass ranch. Yeah, you know how much knowledge I'll be trying to get from Ginobili like in that In that arena locker room or you know every day So let's talk about this ketchup on pizza
Starting point is 00:11:09 In theory ketchup on pizza can make sense though tomato sauce is a key ingredient and ketchup is technically a tomato sauce But are y'all rolling with the ketchup on the pizza a lot of ketchup? It was agreed. I was like a lot of ketchup for anything that even requires ketchup. That's disgusting. I wasn't poor. I had regular ketchup. I had regular tomato sauce. You know the ketchup? That looked like poor people's shit where you didn't have actual tomato sauce. You didn't have spaghetti sauce or whatever pizza sauce. Whatever they put on that and your mama just threw ketchup on it and then spread it around, threw a little cheese. Oh, wait, can I interrupt this conversation real quick? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:49 My mother just texted me and reminded me that I had 10 threes last year in France. Ah! Ah! Shout out to Mama Brown. She said, excuse me, ma'am, you had 10 threes in France. That's a good mom. First of all, how do you not know that?
Starting point is 00:12:05 You should. I don't even speak that much. Overseas basketball is gone. Speaking of moms, happy birthday, mom. Happy birthday, mom. And my dad's birthday. Happy birthday, mom. Happy birthday, Shawnee.
Starting point is 00:12:17 It's Mr. Brown? Mm-hmm. There's a lot of birthdays today. Sorry to take us back to that. He was the original dapper. Please. Right? He was the original Dapper. Please. Right? He was the original?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Go get him back. Hey! Hey! Hey, look, he had it together, but he was the original A. He reminded us often when that day started. Oh, he did? He's like, I did that. That's me.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Could he see? No. Okay, see? That's a good daughter. That's a good daughter. Good daughter. But yes, see? That's a good daughter. That's a good daughter. Good daughter. But yes, 10 threes, okay, everybody. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yep. We appreciate you. Yeah. Thanks, Mom. You got 10 threes, but how do you feel about ketchup on pizza? Disgusting. Ketchup doesn't belong on pizza. It's a privilege.
Starting point is 00:12:58 You said you had ketchup spaghetti? Hell no. I had the real sauce. I can afford the real sauce. Like, I didn't have the regular Wonder Bread with the cheese and the ketchup put in there, call it pizza. No, no, no. I had regular Domino's Pizza Hut, the real one back then when the shit was actually good.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah. They packed you out with the cheese and all that. I had regular pizza. I didn't have the creative pizza. I didn't have the created pizza. I didn't have the created hamburgers and shit that your mom and pop made. No, I had the regular store. Not that big block of...
Starting point is 00:13:33 So no ketchup on pizza? Huh? So no ketchup on pizza? Okay. No ketchup. Yeah, no ketchup on pizza. Hot sauce on pizza. Ranch.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Sriracha? Ranch. Ranch. Ranch on pizza. Ranch and ketchup. Yeah, ranch and hot sauce on Ranch. Ranch. Ranch on pizza. Ranch and ketchup. Yeah, ranch and hot sauce on pizza for sure. I've never tried hot sauce. Any day.
Starting point is 00:13:48 What? Actually ketchup on a lot of, I mean, hot sauce on a lot of things. The Papa John's. You talking about the Papa John's? I don't want no veggies on my pizza. Like, pineapples? Pineapples? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Hawaiian? You like pineapple? What? Ugh. Y'all like hot fruit? What? Y'all like hot like hot fruit Like who like probably the weirdest like eats hot fruit Just pineapples nah, I like like I do pineapple and I like I'm weird. I like seafood pizza
Starting point is 00:14:20 So like lobster and pineapple No, you really? Lobster people lobster and pineapple No, you read yeah. Yeah, like lobster people shrimp and pineapple Brand you never over Hot fruit anchovies like like pineapple hot fruit on a pizza is disgusting what? Like like the only like the only thing that could be hot is, like, an apple pie. That's what someone was talking about during Thanksgiving. Because they don't like pies because they're like, hot fruit is nasty. And I'm like, okay, when you put it that way.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Well, I mean, apple pie. Peach cobbler? Peach cobbler? I mean, with vanilla ice cream. I mean, I like pie. You know, so it's not. I think I'm weird. I like apple pie, cherry pie.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I like pies. What's the other one? Peach cobbler. Uh-huh. No fruit. So I'm the one that. Just the sauce?'m not yeah, I like this is the sauce and the sweet, but I just cut out all the fruit throw that in the trash So
Starting point is 00:15:18 Reads my next question. What's the most trifling thing that you put on food that if people saw it that'd be like Yeah, you're not right in the head. Sometimes I put sriracha mayo on my eggs. Sriracha, what? Sriracha mayonnaise. Mayonnaise? Mayonnaise. Oh, no!
Starting point is 00:15:35 Mayonnaise. Extra mayonnaise! I mean, on the bottle, it looks like it's, um. Yeah, I got some up there, yeah. Yeah. That's what's on the bottle, sriracha. Yeah, it's orange. I put that on my eggs and
Starting point is 00:15:49 Mayonnaise no mayonnaise is like something I'm just I don't like mayonnaise either but oh man probably cereal I Do strawberry milk I do strawberry milk and Agave but Before it was honey, but now agave. What kind of cereal? Oh, so then I got to mix Fruity Pebbles with Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Yo, you're a kid, bro. You are a child.
Starting point is 00:16:13 What? Y'all grew up? Who wants to grow up? That's a lot of sugar. Huh? Yes. What kind of cereal do you eat? I eat all types of cereal, but not often.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Oh, yes. I do like Fruity Pebbles. Yeah, but, but not often. Oh, I do like Rudy Pebbles Yeah, but with regular almond milk, I need a strawberry Captain Crunch. Whoo What okay, I'm crunch berries. I'm Captain Crunch berries. What is going on? It's like carbonous No, no, like when the milk is done like see that's what happens when the milk is done. You get that flavored milk So I was like yo, I'm gonna treat because my dad tried to make me do healthy. So it was like not even Frosted Flake, it was that bland kind. It was like K, K, special, special K. And then it was like, there's no taste in here.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So I had to create the strawberry milk and then that. You see the football player that put mayonnaise in his coffee? What? His name is like Will, Will, uh, Levi's or something like that.
Starting point is 00:17:11 That is Axel. Yeah, Will Levis. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he puts like, he puts mayonnaise in his coffee. Is he Samoan? He is mayonnaise.
Starting point is 00:17:19 No, he's white. He is mayonnaise. Hey, y'all ever, speaking of foods, weird stuff, do y'all ever watch shows where they have, like, weird things that they do, like eat, like... Like seat covers and shit like that, toilet paper.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Oh, like Michael Mann's Addiction? Use diapers. I'm just gonna... Like, use diapers. Somebody use diapers. Now, the problem with this is... it's mostly women... that have these weird eating things. Like, it's always weird eating, like ashes. Like, yeah, someone's eating ashes. Like, come on, y'all.
Starting point is 00:17:56 What is going on? What is going on? That's my strange addiction. That is? But I will say men do weird things like be in relationships with their cars. Sexual, emotional relationships with their cars. I don't know the money we spent on that. The money we spent.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So we talk about weird things on that show. That was an episode. Yes. Oh, I'm on the word. That's what y'all do. I had a teammate who was addicted to his rims. He spent 10K on it and literally just know the weird thing is watching people eat people who'll be eating like the seafoods and Watch them eat and like the crunching and all that's not weird like
Starting point is 00:18:38 You do overdo Overdue Yeah, do like those. That's a whole genre. It's a living vicariously through these people because they're eating things that I just, my stomach can't handle, but they make it look so good. They're having like king crab legs, though. And they just be tearing them up. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Let's talk about some basketball, shall we? So big news coming out of Dallas on Tuesday. It was announced that Mark Cuban is selling a majority stake in the Mavs. So Shams put up the tweet. It said, sources Mark Cuban selling majority stake of the Dallas Mavics to Miriam Adelson and casino tycoon Adelson family for a valuation in the range of $3.5 billion. In one of the most unique setups in NBA history,
Starting point is 00:19:23 Cuban gets to keep shares and team in full control of basketball operations. So this family, I believe, owns the Sands Corporation, which used to be heavy in Vegas. I think they now are overseas in Macau and Singapore or whatever, but still getting that back. And I think she sold like 10% of stocks she owns in the company, and that was valued at like $2 billion. So big baller.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Cuban cashing out, though. He bought the Mavs in 2000 for 285 million, and now he's cashing out while still calling the shots. Cuban also announced that he's quitting Shark Tank, so he might be going through some things. I love that show. Pretty good show.
Starting point is 00:19:58 He's probably going through, I wanna enjoy life. I say three, four, five billion. Yeah, I wanna enjoy life. Still and probably. Thoughts on something new? So here we'll start with you. Thoughts on Mark Cuban selling the majority stake in the Mavs, but still maintaining control of the basketball ops?
Starting point is 00:20:09 I mean, smart move. I mean, you know, big, big-time money play gives him whatever freedom that he's looking for, and he still gets to be around a game that he loves, right? So, it's not like he's going away. He just, you know, it's time to sell, and I can move on in a different direction financially, you know, invest in other things, and then I can just focus strictly on basketball.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I like it. Yeah, $3.5 billion. That's, I think, the total value. I thought it would be more based on just how teams have been moving nowadays, but. No, good for him. I mean, I saw a lot of negative responses to him doing that. Like, so I'm about to come out. I'm just like, why can't a guy just wanna cash out and enjoy his life?
Starting point is 00:20:56 What? I do like him on Shark Tank though, so that kinda makes me upset, but good for him. I didn't realize Cuban was 65, so he's been in this game. He's good for 65. He's out here. He's been here a long time. I mean, you know, he's been a great owner for years. I mean, he takes care of teams when we come in and makes sure everybody's great.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So, I mean, he's just getting rewarded. The basketball guys are rewarding him for being a great owner and for what he does. So you mentioned him being a great owner even from an outside perspective. Nobody here has played for the Mavs, but Cuban appeared on All the Smoke recently, broke down. One of the ways he tried to embarrass other owners while doing some low-key recruiting. Every time you play the Dallas Mavericks, whether you win or lose, you win. When you win, you get to eat you hey because it's a full buffet
Starting point is 00:21:46 laid out in the locker room barbecue beans cornbread everything gets you name it links links all that ribs just sitting there that's barbecue sauce on the who's barbecue sauce that is but shout out to them what what how did that come about though i wanted to embarrass other owners oh that's what it was. I'm like, they don't even, because I would hear from guys, you know, we don't get this. You know, we're guys we would trade for. You know, guys would tell me, I just went from the outhouse to the penthouse. You know, and I'm like, okay, I just want to rub it in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And so I'm like, we're cooking for our guys. Just make a little bit more and give it to the other guys. And I used to put in, like, really plushush towels too, but y'all would steal them all. And so it was like, take them all home. So some other info, in a 2005 SI article about Cuban, voted best visitors locker room
Starting point is 00:22:35 by 45% of the players. And he also has been notorious for taking care of his guys. He put PlayStation 2, sound like TV, headphones, facial recognition technology, all types of lighting and other shit.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But just to show he really cared about the squad. So you guys have all played. You both have played at Dallas. Do you agree Dallas had the best visitors locker room? When it comes to the space in visitors locker room, yeah, Dallas was probably the biggest. Yeah. Spatial-wise, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah, space, food. I mean, it just felt like a home game. So they treat you all right. So on the opposite side, who had the worst visitor's locker room? Sharks. Yeah, the Sharks. Damn. The old arena.
Starting point is 00:23:19 The old arena. Yeah, the old arena. Okay. Like when we first, that, bro. It was the hockey, because it was hockey. You know, that's where the hockey team was. Bro, and it was like three showers in there. Damn. 15 guys, three showers, and like everybody like this.
Starting point is 00:23:33 That was the worst. That's funny, we both see it. That's funny. I mean, Boston, Boston's bad too. But we have space, but it's just Boston, like the showers be cold. You know, like. You feel like they do that intentionally? Yeah, like it'd be freezing, like, but just Boston, like the showers be cold. You feel like they do that intentionally? Yeah, it'd be freezing, but shoot around, it'd be like 13 degrees in there.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That food thing was really, really big in the NBA because that's when owners really got smart. I remember I had a conversation with A. Poland about that. Like most of us are coming in here on empty stomachs practicing, I remember I had a conversation with A. Poland about that. Most of us are coming in here on empty stomachs practicing, and then when we leave, we're going to eat fast food. We're young. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We don't have, we don't understand gourmet food. Yeah, we have all the money, but we didn't come from college. Think about what we ate in college coming from home, so we don't understand chef and all that stuff. So it would be a better investment for you to have food here, lunch after practice or breakfast. Even when I left in 2010, we didn't have catering yet. We didn't actually have catering inside that locker room yet. We got catering on the food from Dallas and Cleveland. I thought LeBron was the first one,
Starting point is 00:24:46 I thought Cleveland at 2003, 2004, was the first group to give the opponent food. Because we was playing them in the playoffs. Okay. And then I remember like, yo, what is this? They gave you our food, did you trust it? Hell yeah. I didn't know shit.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Man, like, let me think about it, like as a hooper, as a Hooper, if this is what you serve in us as the opposing team, what are y'all getting over there? Right? And those little things is what made other teams attractable. Yeah. Attractive.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Attractive. What the fuck is that? Can you make up a new word every episode? Today is attractive. I didn't even take a shot yet. What we got here? Milk Palacio. Shout out milk. Belizean legend.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yes, yes. This is his joint right here. Gave us... Hey, man. These NBA players, man. In the liquor business, they hooking your boy up. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, your bar look amazing. Your bar look good. My bar look good, right? Got some legends up in there.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Free. Free bar. All free? All free. So Lexi, our producer wanted to know, what was your experience like at Duke, in terms of training table and all that type of stuff? Our training table was great.
Starting point is 00:26:03 We had a chef. Her name was Sam. Me and her were like this because I really love food. We had breakfast and dinner, I think, because we had class all day. We had morning practices, breakfast after, and then we would have dinner later. The men, I think they had three meals, but because me and her were so close, I would when they were done with their food, she would let me go in and take some of the guys leftover food and stuff. Better or worse than WNBA? Way better.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Okay, just curious. At Duke? Yeah, for sure. I will say when I was in Minnesota, we had a chef before practice, after practice, after shoot around, after games, we would have food. And I don't know how many teams do that, but I know Minnesota was, like, hands down my best experience as far as, like, nutrition and food and stuff. Y'all didn't go to, like, y'all didn't go to dinner?
Starting point is 00:26:58 I mean, like, lunch or, like, as a team, like, out to restaurants? What do you mean? Y'all didn't go to restaurants? In college? Yeah. Yeah, like, on the road, we would. Not at home? I mean, we would like ourselves.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh. But like... Not team funded? They were poor. No, we would have... No, I will... No, my second year in Maryland is when all like the rules started changing
Starting point is 00:27:18 when they were able to like start paying for like outings. So I was like my... I think that was my second year in Maryland. What year is this? 2014. What did y'all have cracking in Arizona, Gil? Because I know. I don't even remember having a chef.
Starting point is 00:27:35 We had, it was called Pia Chains. There was Ruth Critt. No, not Ruth Critt. Something Steakhouse, Outback Steakhouse. Ooh. Yeah, they brought it in every day. Tony Roma's. Tony Roma's. Like I remember we had a football player, his name was Pete Hanson, right?
Starting point is 00:27:49 And he was the shot block kicker on the football team. So he was about 6'11, 6'10, right? Had about a 46 inch vertical, right? And he made the basketball team. Man, he was like like i'm in heaven i'm in heaven because he's taking back and he was like yo this is the best like he was really jealous he was he was really jealous of what he's missed this whole time because i think that the athletes the duke athletes had their own like training table type situation for like all the other sports but men's and women's basketball had their own that's
Starting point is 00:28:28 important it's important to establish the hierarchy we just we had but we didn't know any other kind of yeah it was nice beautiful lovely so let's get back to Mark Cuban just from your guys perspective I know neither of you play for the Mavs, but how is Cuban viewed as an owner by other players around the league? For sure, top three. Top three owners. Platinum.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Ever. Platinum. Platinum tier. Platinum tier. Yeah. Like from how he treats his players? I mean, just put it like this. He sells his team, but inside of this sale,
Starting point is 00:29:05 he still wants to be head of operations of basketball. That's how much he actually cares about the actual game. The business part, he's probably like, I'm done with the business part of it. But just the basketball side of it, I still want full control. Yeah. Yeah, because I just saw them play. I just took my son to the game. They played the Lakers. I just played the Lakers. I just took my son to the game. They played the Lakers. Okay. I just played the Lakers. I just had my son King.
Starting point is 00:29:29 He met Mark Cuban was back there. Just still involved, everything, like all up in it. You could tell he still just enjoys it. Was Cuban doing any dirty macking back in the day, like trying to recruit on the low? He didn't have to. No. He don't have to. Your locker room did it all.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I mean, y'all got PlayStation in here? Yeah. X-Ball. Man, then you go back to your rusty-ass shit like, oh, that's bullshit. I remember, like, my rookie year, we was playing them. And, you know, he's out there early shooting. And I remember I had my high-top eight,
Starting point is 00:29:59 and I was shooting. He was like, hey, man, you should keep that. Like, that's good marketing. Like, you know. So he was just, like, just complimenting me on my marketing and that's good marketing like you know So he was just like just complimenting on my marketing and like how I was so it was pretty cool So question for you guys Why do we feel like we hear all this great shit about Cuban all this great stuff about the Mavs? But it really hasn't translated into them landing big name free agents just historically
Starting point is 00:30:19 What do you think the issue is plus Texas? I think the tax situation you get to save a lot of your bread They would seem like a marquee destination. It is a marquee destination if the rules was even. Like when you talk about marketing, you're talking about the NBA, right? The destination is about the teams with the most money, right? When you're talking about lockouts, when we have a lockout, the lockout is never about players' salary. It's about owners not, they're not getting along, right? Because, you know, Mark Cuban's overpaying for these free agents, which ups the value.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So if you're worth 50, right, and your team is ready to pay you 50, and he comes and says, I give you 70. Now, you're worth 70 to him. Now, whoever was in front of you, they automatically bump up. So they were inflating, so there's four or five owners that was inflating the prices in the free agency market, so they end up having a lockout. That's what the lockout's for. The owners don't get along. And they try to figure out how to hard cap everything.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's what they really want. The poor owners want a hard cap the richer owners don't they don't They don't want it fair. Like don't tell me how to spend my money if I want to overpay for these Yeezys I'm gonna overpay for these Yeezys. I really want them right so What ends up happening is The way the NBA is now the way the rules are they don't want you to leave your city So like it's you know, you lose a year and money. So like if I can make a five-year 100 here
Starting point is 00:31:54 There you know, if I leave this four-year 65 Right. So it's that you know, there's such this big gap in the money situation where they don't want you to leave So when he's looking for a free agent big free agents those big free agents like mmm It's not like you're the Lakers or you know or the Knicks Like I don't want to and we also got a preference that he did get Kyrie this summer to come back trade But got him in a trade but got him to stay I mean, it's easy Like once he gets there, it's easy to keep him.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It's just trying to say, like, I want to go out there and get LeBron. Yeah. Right, LeBron, I can make $200 million here, or I can go to you, make $135 in Dallas. In Dallas. No thanks. You consider Dallas a small market? Yeah, so, like, when you're talking about markets, you go, it's New York, L.A., right? Boston, Chicago.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, I guess fucking San Francisco's done creeped in there. Philly. Philly. Well, no, Philly's behind Washington and Miami. And then it's Philly. So I think Philly's probably like seven, eight now maybe. Am I right? You said Boston, right said Boston right already Boston
Starting point is 00:33:07 Media market so by media market, I think I'm looking at this as Mavs with like fifth in terms of TV Marcus I mean Texas biggest shit obviously TV mark. I mean Would you put Toronto in there Toronto's gonna be in there Toronto be top six at this point now. Yeah Right where they at? Yeah, they're based based on, I think it's 2022 NBA market size rankings, Toronto is sixth. Gil's out here getting it. Look at you. Not because, you know, when I'm a free agent, I'm thinking about shoe marketing and all that. You have to really see what cities are popping.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yeah. Right? You know, because it's all, you know, it all translates to money and popularity. Popularity. I wasn't going to say nothing. Even little things like this. You're better to be on the East Coast for being a celebrity
Starting point is 00:33:56 unless you're that guy on the West. Because the East Coast, the West Coast gets to watch you play. All the time. By the time a West Coast game comes gets to watch you play. Right. Right? All the time. By the time a West Coast game comes on, right, unless you are the man, they're asleep. Yeah. Right? It's 10 o'clock, 10.30 by the time a West Coast game comes on.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So people are just sitting there, you know, getting ready to fall asleep. So they don't really watch you like that unless you are a top, top guy. Other than that, you know, that's why somebody like Jokic and all them wouldn't get that same, you know, status. So that accounts too. Somebody like Booker gets hurt. So, Alexi, without compromising any current or future backs, who is the gold standard of owners in the WNBA? Vegas.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Mark Davis? Like, it's not even close. New York is pretty close. Okay. But yeah, Mark Davis has like embarrassed the entire league pretty much. Okay, so everybody else is leaning to get their weight up. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yeah. And again, not trying to jeopardize no bags, but facts are facts. So speaking of the Mavs, Luca and Kyrie experiment looking much better this season than it did last year. Head coach Jason Kidd is feeling some type of way about it. Kidd had smoke for ESPN reporter Tim McMahon after the Mavs win over the Rockets with Luka dropping 41-9-9 and Kyrie putting up 27-5 dimes.
Starting point is 00:35:18 McMahon, like a lot of people, was critical of the Luka and Kyrie duo last season, but K Kid wants to know where is the love now? Big deal about last year, but you're not making a big deal about it this year because shit's going good, right? So write some positive shit. Just ask you a question. And I'm giving you a fucking answer. Like, you guys, you know, there's all right to write positive stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:42 People will read your positive shit. You don't always have to be negative, right? Like, it's just the world's already negative enough, right? So let's see some positive stuff on some positive people that are playing, doing their job on a nightly basis. Making it a lot easier to do that this year. Well, we're only into this year.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I can't go back to last year, right? Like that's the fucking problem Yeah, he was smoking because he wanted to smoke. He kept that shit hostile. Yeah. He got it. There you go, J.K. Yeah. Tough. He's right, though. So what are y'all thoughts on J.K. calling out the negativity? Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah. Amazing. Write some positive shit. There's good shit going on. Y'all ain't got nothing to say. That's so odd. Because he's right. I haven't seen anything positive written about how Kyrie and Luke are playing right now. And they're
Starting point is 00:36:48 both playing really well. We've seen it on Gil's Arena presented by a hundred dog fantasy. Woof woof. Woof woof. Woof woof. Woof woof. Woof woof. Woof woof. Woof woof. No, but it's, you know, people want their narratives, right? You know, it's like we go into sports hoping everyone fails. So we can say, I told you so, right?
Starting point is 00:37:12 And that's, you know, like, if I'm Kyrie, it's like, yeah, where's, remember I said it, where was the apology for Kyrie when he didn't want to take the vaccine and everybody in New York is suing now. There was no apology for him like you know what I mean? Right you know like like when you're wrong just say yeah yeah I was wrong my bad my bad brother you know you it's easy to do that you know but when you keep this stance players look at you like no now I can't rock with you. You know, so. If I'm Kyrie name, it's like, eh. Talk to Coach.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Talk to Coach. He's, you know. Yeah, because Kyrie's not like an asshole. He's not rude. He's just, he is who he is. And people tried to villainize him so bad. And it all came around full circle. And all the reporters, all the media look real dumb how they
Starting point is 00:38:06 treated Kyrie and now y'all don't have any like the least y'all can do is talk about how he's playing how he's playing well and y'all don't have anything to say so good for Jason Kifford standing up for his players because they deserve that yeah what do you think about the situation yeah they need their respect man um man I got a chance to kick it with Kyrie after their game, too, man. Just such a good, humble person. Man, just so in tune with the game and what's going on in life. So, you know, just want to give him missed flowers for, you know, keeping his head straight and still going and, you know, getting past all this.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So, you know, I'm sure the basketball gods are going to, you know, keep rewarding him. People don't know, in the summer, he trains girls basketball at Mamba Academy. Kyrie? Yeah. He does girls basketball camps. Teaching girls how to dribble, keeping their base lows, because my daughter goes for them. I know I personally got caught up in what people were saying about him as being problematic, not a good person, doesn't have a good heart.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I mean, I personally, my opinion of Kyrie changed a little bit. So I don't know if Kyrie watches this, but I'm going to apologize to Kyrie right here, right now, because they were wrong. You can't be mad at someone for standing in their beliefs and not letting money or narratives change that. So, I mean, I think Kyrie's a great dude. And, yeah, he works with girls. He loves and supports women's basketball.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And, like, that's important. Yeah, we got to get him in the arena. Yeah. I don't think Kyrie. For sure. So back on the subject of kid, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, but I know y'all remember Deion Sanders was talking big shit after Colorado started hot, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:43 and proceeded to get clowned after they reeled off loss after loss your kid have waited a little longer before calling out the media or is now the perfect time No, I mean that's two different scenarios With Dion Four games you won one the year before that. Four games. He won. It's easy to say, oh, yeah, look at him now. Yeah, look at him now. He was tuned in to Colorado football.
Starting point is 00:40:14 He's four. Colorado's one of the hottest teams in sports now. The floodgates are going to open. He's going to continue to do great. Right now, his grade is an A. You can't say he's failed. It's an A. It's an A. With Jason Kidd, he has his team full season. Last year, you're bashing somebody for making an end-season trade, which has never worked for any team
Starting point is 00:40:45 besides Detroit Pistons. Other than that, it's hard to win after you make big trades, big players in the middle of the season. So they struggled, of course, just like any team did and every team did before that. Now they got
Starting point is 00:40:59 their footing under them and talking shit. Speaking of the Pistons, we got Rasheed Wallace pulling up to the arena next week. Just want to let y'all know that. It's going to be an exciting, action-packed week. We got the Sheed coming in? Yes, sir. Sheed is coming in.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Sheed! So kind of a broader question now, and obviously all you guys have a unique perspective in the situation. What kind of narrative did you see the media trying to create when you're playing now and when you guys played? I think they're intentionally looking for negative stuff. I think they're just trying to bait you. Because like Jason said, writing about the positive, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:41 probably doesn't hit like it does with the negative stuff. So I think, you know, and just in general, I think people are just after you. They're always trying to find a way to tear you down. So when you're playing well, it's like it kind of gets overlooked, but when you're doing bad, they can't wait. Yeah, I mean, I think that's true for all facets of life.
Starting point is 00:41:57 People love toxicity. They love negative shit. They love, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's weird. They don't care about positive. You do some charitable, positive, whatever shit, and we don't care like but you get caught up I think it depends on who it is to yeah, like people have you know, they're in their perception on people So I think it just depends on who it is who's winning and who's losing. Yeah, that's it's you know, like
Starting point is 00:42:20 If you're winning and you have, let's say, this locker room personality, you're a winner. You're a winner. If you're winning with that type of attitude, you're a winner. If your team ain't successful, you're a bad locker room guy. Think about it. Somebody like Jimmy Butler or Draymond Green, if they was on losing teams,
Starting point is 00:42:52 those are considered bad locker room guys. But when it turns into, if they're winning and their team is winning, they're great leaders. They're great this, they're great that. Because there's more losers on a team than winners, mentalities. So if there's one winner mentality on your team and there's 15 losers, you're the one that's out. I remember at the end of Kobe's era in the Lakers, the Lakers players didn't like him because he's demanding winning. So they want him out. You know, Jimmy Butler in the end of Chicago, go to Minnesota, bad locker room guy. You paint the narrative because you don't want to find more players like him. And that becomes a narrative.
Starting point is 00:43:41 So you got these guys talking about, oh, he's a bad locker room guy because I demand excellence. I'm the bad locker room guy working out three times a day, shooting 500 shots. I'm the bad locker room guy. Not the dude that's sitting at the bar all day, sitting at the strip club all day. That's not the bad locker room guy. I bet. Bet. I mean, you also feel like the media can be a little vindictive, too, if you don't give them what they want. Like, if you don't give them... It's something like, you got to play the game.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And a lot of guys don't want to do that. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's getting worse. You know what I mean? Talking to the media, like, they're shooting themselves in the foot, and now it's who can report first and not who can report correctly. So now a lot of media members are, like,
Starting point is 00:44:24 jumping the gun on, like, information. now a lot of media members are jumping the gun on information, and a lot of it is wrong. I saw someone on, I don't know what show it was on ESPN, but they took a tweet from one of those fake pages that have the real name but have an accent over it or something. But everybody got the blue checks now, so people don't do their due diligence. You're reporting on a completely fake tweet, mad about something because you wanted to
Starting point is 00:44:48 report it first. And I think we see that way too much. I forget what it was, but literally the account was like, yo, I just made this shit up in this way. I just made to see how people are going to respond. Yeah, and I've gotten sent some tweets and I'm like, do you see the handle? Read the handle. It's fake, but the blue check.
Starting point is 00:45:07 A lot of people get caught up in that, right? Even with responses and stuff like that. They're responding to someone's fake handle, but it looks like the real person. Dangerous. They're creating beef. Dangerous. Shout out Ballsack Sports. Ballsack Sports. I'm pretty sure that was the page.
Starting point is 00:45:24 There's Ballsack, there's Butt the page. Yeah. There's ball sack. There's butt crack. Yeah. NBA Central. I mean, you really got to double check. Where did that one come from? Because that one is treacherous. Yeah, very, very, very reckless in how they move.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But also, you have to adjust. That's why when I see shit now, I'm just like, I don't trust none of it. I don't trust anything. I got to hear it. But even from a team dynamic, you got to talk about narratives and stuff. Like some players don't want to talk to me.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Did you ever feel like you had players on the team that were a little too comfortable with the media and were giving a little too much information? No, no, you always got a snitch in the locker room. That's for sure. Like, you know, that's for sure. Could you identify who it was? I mean, process of elimination? You always know.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It's never like the first option is always like that dude That's true. He wants to be the man, right? So he's trying to take down the man, you know He's trying to take down a man So he need his reporter to go ahead throw them little jabs in and fuck him up a little bit, right? But that's a thing. That's a real thing, right? Usually the stars of the team have their own reporter. That ends up happening. We see it every day.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So if you genuinely write a bad article about me, and you do it multiple times, I don't really fuck with you like that. Especially if it's just unjust. You're just going out your way, trying to create division. Or you're trying to create division inside locker rooms, inside teams. Like, you know, like, even with titles, like, it's Luka and Kyrie, who's the best player on the team? The fuck do you care for?
Starting point is 00:46:56 Like, let us play. Like, you know, because human nature makes us really think about who is, who's going to take the last shot. Now we're sitting there looking at each other like, who's going to take the last shot now. We sit there looking at each other like Who's gonna take the last shot? You know I mean, so, you know media media outside people that has nothing to do with a locker room Sit there and try to dictate the pecking order. That's already been established And then how do you you all feel about when you have coaches you talk about players certain players using the media to push narratives, but coaches using the media to do that, especially when it's directed towards yourself? Listen.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You about to get a knee break? I'm gonna tell you this. I was the number one option. Right. So the coach couldn't do none of that shit. He can try, but I'll get you fired man. Shut up Okay, you know Not but you know
Starting point is 00:47:53 Coaches coaches would do that when they want when you when they know you're on the out, right? It's always it's always out, huh? Well, they don't know they're not out or you're not out It's always when you leave a situation, right, this is just period. Not talking to anyone who used to be here. When you was here, it was fine. When you leave, oh, you tell everybody about the problems. That's what happens with players. When I need you and you helping me win, oh, he's the best player ever.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And then when he leaves, oh, he was such a headache. He was a problem. He didn't want to do this. He didn't want to do that. Like, hmm. Yeah, coaches do that a lot. Brandon, you ever have any situations like that? Getting traded?
Starting point is 00:48:39 No, I'm saying coaches hating or dry snitching going on. No, not really. I mean, me and Scouse was cool. Stan Van was cool. Nothing really. Let's hear about yourself. Yes. We don't need to dive into it because, as always, we respect your back.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I mean, my Minnesota situation just ended kind of odd. Nothing was said to media members, but things were being said. So there was just a narrative that I had to kind of work myself out of. I still don't know exactly where it came from. I have my ideas. My agent at the time was telling me things that were being said, things that people were saying about me as far as being a teammate and my personality and stuff like that. So I've risen above that, but that was know my personality and stuff like that so i've risen above that but i mean that was after my second and third season and i was just kind of like dang i deal with that a lot on the entertainment side so the way the entertainment side works like gil if i have a problem with you
Starting point is 00:49:34 i won't come to you i'll go to my manager who will go to the powers that be who will go to your manager who will come to you meanwhile we're sitting right here next to each other on this couch then you got to go back to them before it's back. Yeah. Gil said he didn't do it and then Josiah said he didn't, but...
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yo, actually, no. You know what? No, I do got a story. I do got a story. So it was overseas, right? So my first coach overseas got fired. So then we had an assistant coach he took over, right?
Starting point is 00:50:03 And so the assistant coach didn't like me at all just because, you know, I was young going to the NBA next year, right? So I go to the draft You know this when the Knicks had the seventh pick and Who's there Dan Tony? All right, so Dan Tony's there and so Dan Tony end up My coach was Dan Tony's teammate right back in the day playing right So he tells Dan Tony, and I'm killing the Knicks workout. I'm telling you, I'm destroying it. I'm like, yo, this is the one.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Like, I'm going to the Knicks. So killing the workout, boom, boom. Dan Tony called him. He was like, yo, how was Brandon? He was like, didn't like him. You know what I'm saying? Cocky California kid, like, you know, boom, boom. So Knicks don't take me because of him.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Damn. So that's how, and then I scored 55. Then I heard like D'Antoni ended up calling the dude back and was like, you motherfucker. Like, you don't want me not to pick this. So it was like stuff like that. I don't, I try not to, you know, I try not to judge somebody off of what I hear.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The reason is his attitude towards you is the environment you created for him. Right? Right? That's the environment. Whatever environment you had, that's the response you got. I don't plan on having that environment here. So I'm not expecting that type of person. So I can't take for what, if somebody said, oh he's bad attitude, he's bad this, that, cool, that might have been in your environment. What the fuck that got to do with me? I have a whole different vibe over here,
Starting point is 00:51:34 so we'll see what his vibe is when he gets here. And so when people ask me, yo, I take the people that I can vibe with. From there, it's up to them. If they fuck it off, they fuck it off. Not my problem. Yeah. And I didn't even do nothing. I was just working out the whole time.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I wouldn't even play overseas. But it was that whole thing of me leaving because, you know, I was out. I was already gone, so. Well, let's keep this thing moving. We got to touch back on the Josh Giddey situation.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So we talked about it on Monday. Today, TMZ is reporting that the minor that Giddey is allegedly involved with and her family are refusing to cooperate with a police investigation. So Thunder head coach Mark Dagnall was asked again about the investigation on Tuesday, offered no comment. Giddey did play in the Thunder's end-season tournament game
Starting point is 00:52:17 against the Timberwolves on Tuesday night. Lexi, we got you here, first time this week. So what are your thoughts on this whole situation? I feel like, I mean, it's a very sensitive topic. We don't really know much. We've just seen pictures, pretty much. Completely out of context pictures. You know, obviously, as a woman, I'm going to believe.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I mean, there's no, she hasn't said anything like he did something inappropriate to me, whatever the issue is, how old is this girl? We still don't know the answer to that. So above all, is a law being broken if she is underage? Yes, the law has been broken. Whether he knew or not, whether she lied or not, the law is broken. So I just think the way the Thunder and the league are handling this is very wrong. I do not think he should be playing right now. If we're talking, we go back to the conversation we have about conduct detrimental to the team. How is this not conduct detrimental to the team? You have an open investigation
Starting point is 00:53:19 on a teammate for something super serious like this and you're allowing him to practice and play. I'm not saying he's guilty or not guilty, but from what we've seen other players get in trouble for, miss games for, lose money from, this is way more serious than anything that we've seen as of late. So I'm just extremely disappointed at how it's being handled. Again, not saying he did something wrong, she's underage,
Starting point is 00:53:50 we don't know any of that, but until those facts are unveiled, he should not be on the court. Hey, what's his nickname? No, no. No, no. What does that
Starting point is 00:54:04 have to do with anything? Because his new name is Josh. Giggity, giggity, quagmire, giddy. That is the new name. That is little quagmire. Stop it, Gil. Boy, shit. I just, as a woman that actively supports the NBA
Starting point is 00:54:24 and maybe potentially even wants to work in the NBA, like, it's just been very disappointing to see how they've handled situations with violence and abuse towards women and stuff like that. Well, okay, so, further research, this has been going on for a year. So this is not, like like something that just happened. So the league and the team has known about it for at least a year, which means he probably
Starting point is 00:54:55 reported it then. So most likely it looks like it was probably a setup and he just got caught. So that means a friend helped that girl do this. Now, they're not responding, which means... She's underage. It's been a year, so obviously this person got paid off, so for it to come out means it was a friend of his that put it out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, who is doing, like, who released all of this? This is a year old, that put it out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, who is doing...
Starting point is 00:55:25 Like, who released all of this? This is a year old. So this is a year old. So that means the Thunder's already known about it. The NBA's known about it. So it probably started off as a blackmail case. And however it got handled, it got handled. And whoever knew about it
Starting point is 00:55:39 decided that they were going to leak it. And they're the ones who wrote that title. Right? I think that's what caught everybody off guard, right? Oh, the selfie of them. Is that real? I don't even know if they proved that's real. Yeah, exactly. We live in this world with all this
Starting point is 00:55:55 misinformation. So whether this all ends up being her being of age, whatever, his reputation is going to struggle. Yeah, it already messes up, but, like, penalizing him now without any facts, that's a lawsuit against the team and NBA.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Because if you just, if you're just allowed to just, someone is allowed to just say, this happened to me, and then you suspend him without any due justice. What if they don't suspend him? What if they just are like, can you just not be around at night? Just stay home. Just keep your...
Starting point is 00:56:28 But that's what I'm saying. Like, we're... Because, okay. It's a year. When you compare this to, like, the Jha situation, which is also everything that was caught on camera. So, the Jha had multiple situations, was able to play through all those while the investigation was going.
Starting point is 00:56:43 But he didn't hurt anybody. He didn't do anything illegal. But we can see it physically. That was the thing. We see you have it. With this, it's a picture, and they're saying he did it, right? Which we don't know. But what did Ja do?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Legally, he didn't do nothing. Right, so... But we don't know. That's what I'm saying. We don't know law-wise. My issue is just the inconsistency of addressing behavior of these players. If we take off the title,
Starting point is 00:57:14 if we take off that title that someone put, what... Right. Exactly. If it's just a regular title with him and the girl, did they have sex? We don't know. We don't know anything. Right, so... No, I get that. That's the only... It's the only legal part about it. But I just feel like once a criminal police investigation
Starting point is 00:57:29 is opened on somebody, you should probably have them not be around. Yeah, but, I mean, it works both ways, though, right? Because like Gil said, if somebody just randomly said somebody did X, Y, or Z... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:42 They got to, you know... There's a potential now for a lawsuit or some other situations if it gets proven to be wrong. Again, we don't know what's cracking with the situation. Again, we, or Z. Yeah. They got to, you know, there's a potential now for a lawsuit or some other situations if it gets proven wrong. Again, we don't know what's cracking with the situation. Again, we will monitor it.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. Monitor it, I can tell you what's going to happen. Nothing? Yeah, nothing. Yeah, if they don't press charges or anything.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That's what I'm saying. It's a year. Think about, like, this is not this year. Right. This is, I mean, this is last year, 2022, right? Which means this year. Right. This is, I mean, this is last year, 2022.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Right? Which means if he's already paid, they can't say nothing anyway, so there's not going to be... I mean, you're assuming that that's happened. That could not be the case. I don't know. If you, me and you been going, talking for a year,
Starting point is 00:58:21 I done already paid you off to be quiet. If I already know I did something wrong, even if you tricked me. Allegedly. Unless they know. If you already set me up and I'm guilty, even if it's a setup, like he met her at a club
Starting point is 00:58:35 and she lied, she had a fake ID, right? No matter what that is, I'm done for. No matter what, right? I'm done. There's nothing I can do. You caught my hand in the cookie jar. I fucked up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Now, what do you want? You want money? All right. Right? Even though it was, I didn't know, it still makes me guilty. Still, right. Here you go. There's nothing I can do about it at that point.
Starting point is 00:58:59 So, if I already paid you off and then now it comes out, you have no reason. You can't say anything. You have no reason to talk because you got what you really wanted inside. Right. So, like I said, we will continue to monitor the situation and provide updates as they happen. But now let's get back to some actual on-the-court basketball talk. Draymond Green made his return Tuesday night from his five-game suspension for the Warriors' final in-season tournament game against the Kings.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Dubs needed a huge win for any chance to advance to the lead eight and proceeded to trick off a 24-point lead. So we got some highlights from this game. They were up 24 points in the first half. I think 14 going into the fourth or somewhere around that late in the third. And it was trickville. So Kings mounted a a fourth quarter comeback, was highlighted by great offense and a slew of Warriors miscues
Starting point is 00:59:49 and questionable decisions. De'Aaron Fox and Malik Monk came up big in crunch time. I think De'Aaron Fox had 29, Malik Monk had 21. Herter was out there doing it too. Just shit like that going on. We've seen stuff like that before, though. But Malik Monk came through crunch time under 10 seconds to go. That's tough.
Starting point is 01:00:06 That's crazy. That's tough. Sometimes better be lucky than good. And then on the final play, 7.4 seconds remaining, Steph Curry brings it up. We see Clay over there chilling. Steph kind of throws up. What I would say is a questionable shot, but it's Steph Curry.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Pass it? Pass it? We're going to talk about that in a second, but the Warriors' blown 24-point lead is tied for the second-largest blown lead with the big three all playing, including the playoffs. Damn. So Warriors went from night-night to nightmares, and it looks like the San Francisco treat is turning into the San Francisco defeat.
Starting point is 01:00:40 But do teams fear the – It's all the rules. No, keep it going. Because the chat's going to hate. There's somebody in the chat going, hey, not appreciate. What is that, alliteration? What is that word? Situations.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Do teams fear the Warriors anymore? And how do you compare this year's Warrior squad to previous non-KD Warrior squads during this dynasty? You are resident 30 expert, all things tough crowd. Man, that's the worst I've seen, the Golden State Warriors. That's the worst. This is pretty bad. This is like, I don't know if it's coming to an end. I don't know if Bob Myers has seen it coming.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Is that why he probably stepped down because he's seen this coming? So I don't know, but something gonna have to change though and that makes you wonder again bob said fuck this i'm going to the yeah i think you know studio you think maybe he was trying to like make changes and they was just like nah i think he just seen it coming well and he's right y'all don't want to change so i'm gonna i'm gonna be out before y'all blame me for this i think he probably realized and not to speak for bob or think for Bobby's UCLA guy. Shout out to the legend Looking at what was ahead? It's gonna be some tough times and tough toys
Starting point is 01:01:52 They're gonna need to be made Elephants kind of been in the room for a while now with this squad clay and in the last year's deal current and last year his deal This young core and all these moves that they made not really panning out as you try to prioritize the vest Draymond being in pool you know it's like yeah you know I think before range and holler yeah exactly you know I've been I had to go back and look at the Golden State Warriors pre pre-KD, right? Even 2021 championship. The scoring, their scoring ain't that off from the top five players in scoring, right?
Starting point is 01:02:34 Right now they're shooting about 72.8%, 72 from their main five guys. 72. They're getting 72 out of them. 72% of the shots you're saying? Yeah, no, 72. Oh, points, okay. You. 72% of the shots you said? No, 72 points. Oh, points, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:47 You know, the championship year is 77, right? What is different is this. Besides the KD years, without KD, the years they won the championship, they were rated number one in defense. They had a deep, you know, so it was their defense that actually was the focal point of why they were good. So 2015, they were ranked number one. 2021, they were ranked number one. This year, they're ranked 17.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So they're not stopping anybody. Right? You know, we can look at, oh, Klay's playing bad. They're not stopping anybody. Right? They're ranked 17 in two years that they won a championship without KD. Because the KD years, they didn't need defense.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Because they wasn't ranked one when KD was on the team. They were second or third at best and then 11 those two years. The two years without KD, they were ranked number one in defense. That was the staple of it.
Starting point is 01:03:46 We've talked about this throughout this season two of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy, whoop, whoop. There used to be a fear when you played these Warriors. If you were up 20, you literally had to keep pushing on them because they could make that lead evaporate in no time. Seen the Thunder, smack them. Seen the Thunder smack them, seen the Wolves smack them. These young guys aren't scared of them anymore, even the Kings last night. These young crews aren't really afraid of these dudes anymore.
Starting point is 01:04:14 And it's wild for me to see because, like you pointed out, they still have with that big three core, but now it seems like those rotational pieces or surrounding pieces aren't what they used to be. Losing guys like Iggy, you know what I mean? Like just... The personnel isn't there. It's the personnel. I think the personnel's lost and I mean they're getting older. These guys that they were playing against early in their careers are, you know, three, four, five years now. It's like, you know, they're getting more mature and they
Starting point is 01:04:41 understand what's at stake. So, I mean, especially when they're playing like this, it's like, what's to be scared of? Like, they're not making them shots like they used to. And guys are just going right by them. Yeah. Just going right by them. So this summer, we were blessed to have Steph pull up to the arena on location.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Told us he thought he was the best PGA. You know, we travel. We travel. We travel. We move. We move. We'll come to y'all, okay, under the right circumstances. But Steph told us that he thought he was the best PGA of all time, him and Magic. He's been balling.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Let's just note that first. But he also has 65 assists this season, 60 turnovers. Shit. So averaging nearly 3.8 turnovers per game, tied for a career high. 4.1 assists per game, our career low. Literally the worst assist to turnover ratio in his career. So what factors do we feel like are playing into Steph Curry's unusual turnovers this season? Just older, just smart personnel.
Starting point is 01:05:45 When he's playing, if you looked at him back then, just older, just smart personnel, right? When he's playing, if you looked at him back then, he was careless with the ball when he passed it because most of his passes, he's passing it to run off and get it back, you know what I mean? So he's not sitting here making a pass like this. He's throwing it to fake and come back. So some of those passes, by now, people are reading. People are understanding.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Great defenses are realizing, or just natural defense are realizing like some of his passing um you know antics right um just all of them right you know they're not really they're not really sharp with what they're doing you know like we all know don't give up on the back door like you know one of the plays at the end you you know, Draymond is Going the back door. He pulls back right? So, you know little things just that they were naturally doing they're just there's just miscommunication now And you feel like you feel like Steph is on the ball too much this season compared to years past. I Think so. I think losing Jordan pool hurt. You got to do too much That's why the balls in his hands too much and he gets a little careless. So I think just losing Jordan Poole
Starting point is 01:06:51 was like, hurts him a lot. Because it took a lot of pressure off them. Like you said, that's 20 points a night. Like you're not getting that. But it's interesting though because they brought Chris Paul in so we all thought that he was going to be off the ball a little more, and it actually turned out to be the opposite. Well, it's hard to play them both together. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a fan of this fit at all, that, you know, when they brought Chris Paul in.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I mean, I was optimistic because he's a professional, and obviously he knew what he signed up up for what he was trying to do when he got to go to state But like it's just not really working Yeah, I think Jordan Poole left a bigger hole than they were expecting Yeah, and just as a no CP 3 and and Gary Payton the second were both Injured last night did not play in the game Those steps workload increased. Yeah, this is him. You know, there's one It's just right now. It's just him playing by himself
Starting point is 01:07:50 right, you know all the decisions he's making is it seems like you know one of those times where You know When LeBron has to do more than he's trying to do he's just at that period in in the season where? He has to run his engine a little hotter than he probably wants to and say everybody catches up All right, we all been in games where it's like are you motherfuckers ain't coming with me? I'm fucking I'll do this shit by myself. We all done did that All right, I've done a lot right? I don't know if they let you do that Right when you play like are you mother's ain't coming play? I bet don't ask for the ball I'll that. Like when you play, like, all right, you motherfuckers ain't coming to play? All right, bet.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Don't answer the ball. I'll do this shit, but I'll get all the rebounds from up inside you. Yeah, because you're like, you're trying to motivate, and that motivation comes out like as a real selfish play, but it's like, if you're not gonna help, get the fuck out of my way. I'll do it until you guys are ready to play basketball.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Right, and that's where he's at right now. Like, he's in that mode where I'ma keep doing it until y'all wake the fuck up. And that's where he's at right now. Like, he's in that mode where I'm going to keep doing it until y'all wake the fuck up. And that's what he's going to have to do. And then at some point, we all know Clay going to wake up and find his rhythm, and then we're going to be like,
Starting point is 01:08:52 oh, shit. And then same thing with Wiggins. When they find their rhythm, right, and it's going to be scary. Just right now, it's easy to throw darts at him because it's only 30 out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Mike, don't leave. You got a lot of work to do this summer. Take it that much. He's going to have to get ruthless. He's going to have to make some... He's going to have to get ruthless, and he's going to have to make a big trade to max out Steph for the next three years if he wants to keep him.
Starting point is 01:09:18 So he's going to have to do... He's going to have to have the big balls and go in there and just... So 30-only one is safe on this roster, do we feel like, at this point? Yeah. Already? Yeah. But even with that, though, he's the only one that really got value, too.
Starting point is 01:09:36 I mean, if you get rid of Dre and you get rid of Klay and all these guys, it's like, yeah, but Steph's the only one that really got value where you can get something back. Well, no value is Someone who has value is probably cominga the reason is His potential is still high. Mm-hmm. His play is low enough to get him for cheap Right is he's really cheap enough to be like, all right I'll take a job take a chance on him. Right?
Starting point is 01:10:05 Because he's not making big money. And then if he ends up averaging 20, 18 a game, I've got him stolen. Right? So he's probably that piece where if you're looking for a trade, if you want my guy, I'm going to always, I'm going to ask for Kaminga. Okay. Because he's on a verge of being you know Harrison Barnes or he's on a verge of probably giving me 20 a game.
Starting point is 01:10:31 So he's Harrison Barnes, Wiggins he's in that range so if I can get him for cheap right now I'll make a trade hoping he's in it. So we're going to have another young player with some value. That's Moses Moody. Moody, Moody, Moody, Moody, Moody. One of the more questionable decisions in the game
Starting point is 01:10:48 came when Steve Kerr decided to sub out Moody with 426 left in the fourth quarter. Scored all of his 11 points in the fourth quarter. Just hit back-to-back threes. Then Kerr brought in Wiggins for him instead of Clay. Do you roll with the vet in that situation or the young player with the hot hand you know that that whole sequence was a bunch of bad decisions where you took i think you took
Starting point is 01:11:15 steph out in at the end of the third or should third like three minutes left put him back in with one minute left and then play them all the way in the fourth quarter to like the six minute mark then you sub them out right they're up three right uh clay when clay went out in the at the beginning of the fourth they were up nine from there you're just messing up the rhythm um you put curry back in with three minutes left, right? So you was already, like, disturbing what was going on. It's all situational. It's easy to say, yeah, go with him because he's hit two threes, but you're going to always go with your vet. You're going to go with your gut, and your gut says vet.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I mean, Moody hasn't missed a shot, though, in the last two games. Hasn't missed a shot? I missed a shot. It was four for four in that game, three for three, I think, from the three-point line. I'm just, you know, I'm in the boy's sword, man. If you put him in a game and he missed two big shots. It's like, why you have the young one in? Why you got the young guy in, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:19 So it's right there, you're just playing off of gut, and you're going to go with your veteran. Because if you leave your veteran in, if your veteran takes shots that he normally takes, you can live with it. It's one of those, you got to live with the decisions you made. I mean, the bigger issue is that they blew a 24-point lead. So if we're going to try and blame Kerr for his decision making the last three minutes, then we're like missing the big picture of the fact that they blew a 24 point lead and you are a veteran team with multiple championships like
Starting point is 01:12:49 that shouldn't happen. I mean you have their step career too. Sportsman like conduct. You better stop. You better stop worrying. You deserve it. So let's talk about Klay a little bit. It's no secret he's been struggling this season. During a recent interview he got spicy at the notion of coming off the bench what do
Starting point is 01:13:09 you want me to bench me no no it's like that's wigs I don't think I said that okay I mean you could suggest it's fine but I'm here bro thanks Steve I guess like I don't know sometimes you earn these things like patience and time to find yourself I Think history will uh is on our side when it comes to that stuff You say that do you have you heard people say that or no? I don't care what people say Like they don't do what we do They can't do what they do. That why they talk why would i like come on
Starting point is 01:13:51 next question he's like now for somebody saying you don't care what people say that's just giving i care a lot. He's looking like he's mother. Yeah, you motherfucker. Boy. You lucky I got there. You lucky I'm a four time champ. Where's Draymond? They can't do what we do.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Yeah. That's the nice version. He gave you the nice. Where's Gorilla Glo? Where's Gorilla Glo? That's Draymond's new nickname for Gills Arena. He gave you the nice words gorilla glue That's very my new nickname forgive gills arena, but I mean just hear it here clay talk like that again This is well, I'm having the worst thing like people normal LeBron guy I've literally hated this warrior squad for years, but seeing it happen like this as a fan of basketball and just you know good teams like it's like shit man being on the side of media and we
Starting point is 01:14:49 see it yeah we're gonna throw your jabs we you know that's that's what we do yeah um as a player he's right you know you know i earned i earned this this rope to try to find my rhythm. I'm a fucking four-time champion. This is what I do. I'm not playing very well right now, but you're going to sub me. I'm surprised he didn't say, for who? Who are y'all subbing me for? Who is coming off the bench that's going to replace fucking me? But that's throwing a shot at your teammates.
Starting point is 01:15:23 But at the end of the day, it's right. Who are you going to sub me for? Who at your teammates. But at the end of the day, it's right. Who you gonna sub him in for? Who the fuck... What was even the question? Nothing. He just suggested it. It's basically talking about patience and, you know... Yeah, I'm just like, the... Comments like that are just wildly disrespectful
Starting point is 01:15:36 to a player like that. Like... Like... Two potentially career-ending injuries for a lot of players that he's recovered from, comes back, wins a championship, and you're asking him questions like, oh, are you happy that your coach is being patient? Like, what?
Starting point is 01:15:54 Like, why would you even ask that? Like, he's a little older. Get that response. Yeah, I mean, everything is for a response. And he fell right into that trap. And usually he's pretty good at not falling into that trap but i mean they got him with that with that statement but i just feel like media members are just they they cross lines sometimes isn't that's the that's the problem it's like why
Starting point is 01:16:16 would you ask or even suggest coming off the bench because he didn't suggest it but he did yeah yeah but he's not above coming off the bench but people were saying like well Steph came off the bench but like they were coming back from injuries like they weren't coming back from poor shooting performances so that was more symbolic like like we knew Steph wasn't gonna like he's not gonna be an edgeman like no you start looking around gotta look at the line out who's on our team like is there somebody on our team that I don't know about? So let's go back to that final play of the game.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Warriors down one. I can't see the time. Time is important. 7.4 seconds to go. No, no, I don't know what this is. Y'all gotta show us more than this. We've just seen it full screen. Okay, there we go. Right here. Here we go. Okay, there we go right here. Oh, here we go Alright passing out now
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, pause it pause it rewind it back. Let's see. Yeah, I'm home. Oh man. Come here. We got to get the clay closer I don't want to play time. But look at the I want to I'm gonna fuck how you got his hand I want time is the most important part. Get ready to slow down Not cry stop now. Yep. No, that's not a passion. That's not a passion. He's looking down. Not yet Not yet. Now you can pass Yeah, you know what I'm not worried about clay shot I'm I'm worried about how long the pass is. Yeah, the long... Clay is... That could have been the pass because it's Clay, because Clay shoots fast enough. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:56 That's a risky pass. Rewind a little bit more. Just a little bit, like, probably at that two-second mark. Because by the time he got it, it would be one second. Now, the fact that Clay still got his hands up is just fucking... Right now. Right there. Yeah, but he got his head down.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah, he got his head down. One more little bit, little frame. Forward, yeah. Forward, forward, forward. Back and to the left. Forward and to the right. Okay, when he put his head up, right there. Two seconds.
Starting point is 01:18:30 That's not it. If he tries to make that, that's a hard, it's not enough time. Wait, can we go back to the beginning? I'm watching Draymond now. Because I feel like Draymond just created a crowd around Steph. Yep. Like Draymond, like, okay, so this was a good pick. That was a good pick.
Starting point is 01:18:46 One. Now, get out. He should have rolled. Get out, yeah, now get out. Now, Wiggins is in a bad position because... Wiggins should have got all the way to the corner. And Draymond should have stayed at half court or rolled all the way down. Hey, Draymond, think about that three.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Man, listen. Like, where is Draymond going? At this point. He broke the three. Draymond should have set that screen and got out of there. Wiggins should be down, but that's all in hindsight. Yeah, like. That's a hard ass pass to make.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah. Like, you know, rewind a little bit back. Now watching this, this is what I would have told Draymond. Right. Come on, come on, come on. He did lose the ball. Right now, I would tell Draymond, come set another screen. Up there?
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yeah. Like, come set another screen. I would have Draymond come to the ball. And not stay. Right now, yeah, just not stay in there. Because now Steph got to come to him. Great thing is they didn't even need a three. They didn't need a three, no.
Starting point is 01:19:43 They got one. Damn, you're right. Like, now keep, now if I to come to him. Great thing is they didn't even need a three. They didn't need a three, no. Damn, you're right. Like now keep, now I played a little bit. Like see if Draymond's coming to him, coming to him, coming to him, coming to him, he can get to the three-point line. Look, now he's where Draymond's setting the screen. He has to take a shot behind that part of the three.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Yeah, that's a hard shot. Yeah. Well, yeah, he lost the ball. I feel like maybe if he didn't lose the ball, maybe he would have been called. And he could have, Pumphrey got a foul too. But. Well, yeah, he lost the ball. I feel like maybe if he didn't lose the ball, maybe he would have been called. And he could have pump fake out a foul, too. But those are the things you watch. And he almost made it.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Yeah, those are the things you watch after, you know, and shoot around. Or not shoot around the next day. They'll probably be watching that now, trying to see what they would have did better. So, you know, it's second nature during the next game. Yeah. Important thing to note, Steve Steve Kurt lost a challenge earlier They're basically cost them a timeout. They could have used to advance the ball in that situation. I Mean down one like that. I'm
Starting point is 01:20:34 Just I only should I only shoot two three. I only shoot two three if it's tagging or down one I want the referee to make a decision to go get a? To get the foul or give me the layup. Yeah. Right? Because at that point, a player's not naturally trying to give you the layup or foul, right? He's in this in-between space. So the more aggressive you get, you can get that foul for the most part. So you'll see at times like this, down one, I'm getting to the free,
Starting point is 01:21:06 I'm getting fouled. But he wasn't moving fast enough. Steph, he's not moving fast enough. I'd have probably threw it up the wing. No, I wouldn't have. As a coach, throw it up the wing to make Wiggins drive, but as a player, I'm not giving a fucking shit. I'm going to try to use my speed.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Like if that was the other way around and it was Fox Fox is getting later to the Yes For sure. Yes That or you know Steph coming off pump fake knowing how fast the guy's moving and he got three free throws But that's what you see after the game in real time is different game. Yeah Like they say hindsight 2020 but so not that big of a deal as it looked like watching it live. I mean, they're down one, though, so they should have got a layup for sure.
Starting point is 01:21:52 They should have got a layup. Like with that pick from Draymond. Draymond rolled. They got a chance to get a layup or something. Yeah, yeah, because when Draymond rolls. What are you roaming there for? If he rolls and he gets it, somebody has to come. So once that collapse, right, you got.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Now you got Clay by himself at the three because this man got help. Clay was wide open. If this man doesn't help, then you have Wiggins' guy that has to do that bottom help. Wasn't as bad.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Coach Gill. Again, don't blow a 24-4 lead. Yeah, that too. That's the easiest way, I think, to avoid this situation. The Warriors are cooked. Damn. We're going to talk about that in a second.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Mike, don't leave. You've got some work to do. We're going to talk about that in a second, but we talked about Draymond yesterday before coming back from his five-game suspension. Now, he looked good in his return, locked up some bonuses and big shots, but he also got a costly
Starting point is 01:22:47 tech in the fourth quarter. Came after this play where he appeared to flop. The reaction was a little bit late. I think he was salty that Malik Monk didn't get called for the carry. That was his tech? See, now that's a point. See, now that's dumb, and that's- Okay, see now that's a pointless, see now that's dumb. And that's, we've seen Dre- They give him a tech for that? We've seen Dre do some wild shit and not- Get a tech. The ref's not bad at eye. Yeah. And he gets a tech for over exaggerating the carry.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I'm telling you, it's an ego thing. Now that's the one that a ref should be- Fine for. Fine for. Fine for. It's an ego thing. That was nothing but an ego tech. Like, oh, you want to do this in this game, in this big moment in Sacramento?
Starting point is 01:23:34 Because it's easy to pick on. Yeah. It's easy to pick on. Those are the... Yeah, but all right, cool, do that, but here's your fine in the mail, Mr. Ref, because you want to be stupid. How much should they be fined for dumb shit like that? They get paid anywhere from $3,000 to $6,000 a game.
Starting point is 01:23:55 $100. No matter what? No matter. Like $100. I mean, it has to be equal to your pay, right? I can't say oh 500 Yeah, at first I wanted to say 500 but I mean if you're making six six grand least 250 Yeah, it's a no. It's it's probably about a hundred bucks. Oh
Starting point is 01:24:14 How does that start if it's just a hundred? 100 you making six thousand shit That what is what is 20 grants as a one who's making? 500,000 that game nothing between like what dream on dream on sex is nothing For this year, it ain't winning great. It's irritating. I don't think I'll ever have enough money. We're 20 grand won't bother me We all said the same thing I feel like maybe you increase it if they keep doing it. Trust me. Like, first offense, $100. Yeah, so I think we can all agree he didn't deserve a tech there, but does it almost feel like they're trying to send a message to Dre?
Starting point is 01:24:53 That time has passed. Like, chill on that shit? I'm sure he got the message. Like, I mean, that tech right there is what? $2,000? I don't even care about the financial standpoint of it. Fuck you, $2,000. Yeah, there's no sending a message to Draymond. There's no sending at that point.
Starting point is 01:25:10 The window is closed. There's no in-game fine that actually does anything for a main player. You make, like, shorts, baggy shorts, five grand, technical, $2,500. There's no end game. It's just tick, tick, tick. So that's what I'm saying. With the ref, it's just $100, man. Now, you got to remember, now $100, it should be the same way.
Starting point is 01:25:39 $100, the next one $300. Three in one game, that's questionable, $500. Yeah. It increases. But the first one, you make the one that looks like this- When they send their little reports out, like, was this ref did this wrong? They need to stop doing that.
Starting point is 01:25:56 They should. I'm just saying, who cares about y'all fucking up after the fact? Right. The ref isn't getting any- The average ref probably do what, four games a month? No, way more than that. So what's, oh. Shit, what, eight to ten?
Starting point is 01:26:10 They make a decent amount of money, huh? Eight to ten? Yeah, you're talking about how many games, like a team plays 13 games a month, 12 games a month, right? So, I mean, it's over 100 games a month? Yeah, so the refs take it home, what, 80? Shit. Like almost 80. Oh, yeah, we talked about it before. It might games a month. Yeah, so the ref taking home what 80 80 oh, we talked about before this cut it might be a couple hundred racks. Yeah, I'm gonna say Yeah, no, they're making listen. They're making some racks when you when you add it all up, right? But you still gotta find them according to like, you know me I don't even like the motherfuckers like that But I you know to justify like a hundred dollars man Showing compassion $100 and I'm gonna be fair so y'all can sit there say I'll get fucked about that little $100
Starting point is 01:26:52 Now you see what we be said you So we got the stats here on average refs get paid anywhere from two hundred fifty thousand to five hundred and fifty thousand a season Hey, there are three levels of income when you're're an NBA referee based on years of experience and performance. When you're a rookie, wage starts at $600 per game. $600? $600 per game. But you figure they do 82 games in a season. That translates to $250,000.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Shit. I mean, plus travel. Does anybody know the max, like a ref? How many games a ref actually got foster Got signed to a max ref do also does that Have any game how many so how many games was a ref actually yeah do yeah, that's what will But you got to imagine. I don't know what the math is right like over a thousand total games in a season I don't know how many refs
Starting point is 01:27:45 there are, but I'm sure some of these guys are doing three to four games a week. So they get about 82 games in. Look at that. Yeah, 82. Does anybody in the chat know, do refs have back-to-backs?
Starting point is 01:27:54 Like, what's... I'm so curious now. For sure. I think so, yeah. Like, you ain't having it today. Yeah, because if a ref is in Milwaukee, he can definitely go down
Starting point is 01:28:03 to Chicago, which is an hour. Yeah, so veteran officials will call upwards of 70 games a year. Yeah, so no, there's probably no back-to-backs. Okay. Because it wouldn't be— So refs out here low managing? No, no, no. The reason there wouldn't be no back-to-backs is because they don't get on private planes.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah, but you could do back-to-backs in certain— From Milwaukee to Chicago, that's only an hour drive. Yeah, but you're reffing on the drive, but he's going to flop to Chicago, that's only an hour drive. Yeah, but you're reffing on the drive and he's going to flop. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like Orlando, Miami, you can...
Starting point is 01:28:31 What they make a fly? Southwest? No, that's what I'm saying. Drive. But I'm saying if you're driving, anything can happen between that where you lose that ref, so they probably give him
Starting point is 01:28:38 a day in between. Like I've never... Like, I don't know. You got to... That's something someone has to Google to have me... Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's enough ref gotta, that's something someone has to Google to have me. That is what, yeah, I mean I feel like there's enough refs that just wouldn't make sense
Starting point is 01:28:48 to make a ref do it back to back. I mean like yeah, like if the Clippers, Lakers, like I'm gonna stay here. That's it, like they play uh. Yeah, that'd be the only way, you know. They play Saturday, they only play Saturday, the Clippers and the Lakers. They do the, the same ref group. They do the same. Yeah, this ain't fucking AAU y'all.
Starting point is 01:29:03 This ain't AAU man. They be doing that shit in high school. It's like ref you. You got the same ref group? They do those. Yeah, this ain't fucking AAU, y'all. This ain't AAU, man. They be doing that shit in high school. It's like refs. You got the same ref on the goddamn court. I'll take a break, man. Them refs starving out there. They working four or five games in a tournament. Oh, they would be tired.
Starting point is 01:29:17 So Brandon, this is the last question. You said the Warriors are cooked. Do you believe it? Mike, don't leave. You got a lot of work to do. He's going to have to go in there roofless and make a trade. He's going to have to make a big-time trade. Bob Myers left for a reason.
Starting point is 01:29:32 He's like, y'all can have that. Go ahead and deal with that mess. Nah, I mean... For real. Because, you know, Steve Kerr is up this year. Klay's up. If you're Dunleavy, this is not a position you want to be in. Unless he wants to get ruthless.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's either a fail or genius. There's no in-between. You got too many people up, right, at the same time, and you got to figure out who is priority. You got Steve Kerr up, you got Clay, you got Curry coming up, you got the signed Kaminga bag. Ooh. Yeah, you got a lot. You need to just get ruthless. Just make a trade. On some Tupac.
Starting point is 01:30:17 On some Tupac. Hit him up. Never coming back. Damn. This is not how I saw this dynasty. Riding into the sun, but this is how, you know. And I'm going to tell you who's in that trade. It got to be Dre, it got to be Klay, and it got to be Kaminga. Dre, Klay, Kaminga, and then go down to the Clippers and get some of them? Yeah. Yeah, you got to do like CP, like you got to go in there and just,
Starting point is 01:30:44 and then also think about if you want Steve Kerr to come back. Since he don't have his assistant players no more. You know, that's a lot. It's a lot you got to think about. Yeah. If I get Paul, if I can get Paul George. You can get Paul George and Kawhi with Klay. I mean, with Kerr.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Yeah, with Steph. I mean, they could force that on their own. Because, I mean, defense, your defense goes back up, then I don't want to lose Drayden. I don't want to lose Draymond. Okay. Some shit's going to go down. I don't want to lose Draymond.
Starting point is 01:31:14 And we will be here to talk about it when it does. All right, this summer. Let's get back into this in-season tournament. The group stage is complete. We know the final eight teams that will be advancing for a chance to win 500 racks and a janky trophy. So here's the crew. First off, let's start in the Eastern Conference.
Starting point is 01:31:34 Bucks are the top seed in the East, and we'll face off against the number four seed Knicks. Oh, my God. They got a cakewalk. The Pacers are the two seed, and we'll play the third seed of Celtics. Who has a cakewalk? Who got a cakewalk? Both. Both of who?
Starting point is 01:31:48 Both of the East. Who is both? New York and Pacers. Come on, y'all. What you mean? I mean- Come on, what does that mean? The Bucs are where they supposed to be.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah, that's the easy to New York. They just have to win once, right? Easy. So they win in advance. Easy work right there. Celtics- They playing in- Boston.
Starting point is 01:32:04 We coming to see you. Boston, Easy. So they win in advance. No, easy work right there. Celtics. They playing in here, right? Boston. We coming to see you. Boston play Pacers. Boston in Indiana. Second round.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Indianapolis. Easy work. Second round. Second round. We got Boston. And look at the other side. Lakers, we got to go against KD and Booker. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah. Yep. Come on, man. Y'all got sons in Spurge. We playing against Superstar. Let's start with the East, Gil East go who you got coming out of the East with that crew. Go ahead. Go ahead Yeah, I see bucks and balls. I mean bucks and Boston in the championship Oh there being the final four on the final floor. So who's advancing from the Damn, Drew got a run up on you
Starting point is 01:32:42 I'ma go Wiz Damn, Drew got to run up on Giannis this time. I'm going to go with the Bucs, but I think Tatum is going to be out there giving that work. I'm going with Tatum, but I'm going with the Bucs. That's not an answer. I'm going like Bucs win, Tatum got 50 every game. That's how I want Eat MVP cuz he average 50 the whole day. Hey Jerry West. Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:19 Shows presented by underdog fantasy. It's not about wins or losses anymore. They're our player delivery when you need Then if I go with the Celtics, Dame got 40 every game. Basically, I'm picking the zero to have the best. All zero. All zeros got the best performances out there. Okay. I like that. So let's move to the West. The top seed Lakers face.
Starting point is 01:33:36 No, you didn't ask them. Okay, we're good. Damn, damn. Are you going Celtics? Yeah, but you know. Come on, man. Yeah, we knew. You knew.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Very biased. No, it ain't biased. It's correct. Y, I got a come on man bias. Listen, I got the Bucks and the Suns in the championship That's a lot. I got the Bucks and the Suns in the champ. You know what? It's written y'all is written Lakers versus Boston in the championship y'all. It's going to be Lakers versus Boston. That would be fire. Lakers versus Boston.
Starting point is 01:34:12 No. Celtics final something. No. The talent ain't the same no more. You're right. What? The talent ain't the same. What? The talent ain't the same on the teams man. I would like the. LeBron Tatum. The talent. AD. The talent is down. I would like the LeBron Tatum the talent ad the talent is down We healthy Lakers because bronze not a true Laker
Starting point is 01:34:30 He's been here long enough. It's not a true Laker We gotta do this shit man, we got a gym to Boo and house party. Hey, man, listen, listen, I don't like that We playing the Suns first round. Like, why can't we play the Kings? Y'all out of here. Y'all out of here. It seems...
Starting point is 01:34:50 But that's what I'm saying. It's kind of rude that they finished first, and now they got to play the fucking Suns. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. That seems like a punishment. Yeah, it doesn't seem... Lakers are 2-0 against the Suns this year, but D-Book is not playing in either one of those games.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. I don't want to play... Probably the only game people won't watch is the Kings and the Pelicans. I think that might be the most exciting game, though. You got reckless basketball. The Lakers and the Lakers. No, that's star
Starting point is 01:35:14 power, but we talking about this just like who gonna go after it? Like, two and three right there, they probably the two teams that will be playing the hardest besides the Knicks. So ideal situation, right? Bucs-Lakers, finals preview.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Nah, man, it's going to be Bucs. It's going to be Bucs-Suns. It's going to be Lakers versus Boston if it's written. For us to win the championship, I want Lakers versus Pacers. If the Lakers want to win the championship, I want Lakers versus Pacers. If the Lakers... If the Lakers... If they want to win. If they want to win.
Starting point is 01:35:47 I mean, the Lakers-Boston first in-season tournament is pretty good. Hey, man, Bron's going to be the first. Listen, this is why Bron's going to be better than Jordan. Bron's going to be the first one. Your first NCAA. He's going to be the first one with the in-season reign. I knew it. He got the in-season championship.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I knew it. I knew it. In-season GOAT. An in-season GOAT, baby! First one ever! An infinite amount of more in-season MVPs than Jordan. We got to create some shit, man. So while this is going on, it's still
Starting point is 01:36:14 going to be other games, right? Yes, so the league released the schedule for the other 22 teams. So they'll be playing. I think they'll be playing on days that the NCAA tournament is not playing. If the NBA was smart, I'd work for them. Do these games still count? Except that the championship is played. That's the only game that the NBA was smart. I do games still count
Starting point is 01:36:30 Okay, okay do these games still count not yeah Every game except the championship game I believe still impacts record now that should be like if you want the in-season tournament to be the In-season tournament you got to take it away from the regular season So the in-season game shouldn't it should just be the in-season games It shouldn't be regular games inside of... So what do you say? Reduce the 82 game schedule and lower it? Okay, I'm just like, let's go back to that list. Don't let these games count against your record at all. So you play 82 plus the
Starting point is 01:36:53 in-season tournament games? No, like, is there any other games going on during these games? We don't know. Yeah, let me see. The quarterfinals? Like, right. December 9th, just the championship. Yeah, let me see. The quarter finals? Just those two games on December 7th. Like right. And December 9th, just the championship. Just, okay.
Starting point is 01:37:07 All the days, guys. So basically, December 4th and 5th, there's more games going on, right? Right now. That takes away from- Yeah, it takes away like Sacramento Kings versus Pelicans. No, I'm sorry. No, just those games on those days. Oh, just these games.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Okay, okay, that's okay. Then we're good. I was about to say, that's what I was going to say, Lenny. Then we're good, we're good. Oh, then it takes away from- Man, I'm waiting. Oh, listen. All's okay. Then we're good. I was about to say, that's what I was going to say. Then we're good, we're good. Oh, then it takes away from me. Man, I'm waiting. Oh, listen. All this in-season tournament shit sounds cool. I'm waiting for December 21st.
Starting point is 01:37:34 December 21st. Who coming home, dude? Oh, NBA. I'm telling you right now. What's December 21st? I'm telling you right now. How y'all been dealing with this man? Who coming home, dude?
Starting point is 01:37:43 This is him, 25. Oh, John's first game. John already Coming home, baby. He coming home and he ain't coming home on the road December 19, so you might as well take that fucking game off TNT. We're not playing against the Pelicans. No You gotta come to Memphis Indiana Pacers better make that the TNT game Josh smart Josh coming home. NBA, y'all can beg this man all you want, but you're already on his bad side. Right?
Starting point is 01:38:10 He's going to play at home. If it's me, I'm playing at home in front of my reporters. I'm not going to play my first game out of suspension on the road where y'all... Talk it, Gil. So Pelicans, y'all are not going to get Ja Morant when he's done. So y'all can take that game off TNT rightall... Talk it, Gil. So Pelicans, y'all are not going to get Ja Morant when he's done. So y'all can take that game off TNT right now. Talk it, Gil.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Let it be known. Put the TNT game, put that TNT game the 21st against the Pacers because that will be the most brilliant move. Come back at home where you're in a safe environment away from the negative-ass reporters. That's going to be in a safe environment. Damn. Away from the negative ass reporters. That's going to be such a fun game.
Starting point is 01:38:48 We out here jigging. Jaws going to be back. Christmas present coming early. I can't wait. I can't wait because they weak. Yeah. And at this point- What if he come back and they just start-
Starting point is 01:39:02 At this point, I don't give a fuck if they win no more games as long as y'all average 30 shit. 30? He might, because... If I'm him, I'm going to look at the record, but hey, y'all. Hey, y'all, look.
Starting point is 01:39:15 At this point, do I even need to pass the ball? Y'all really need to... Y'all done showed me who y'all are. He can't win. I'm not coming back averaging 10 X's. I can tell you
Starting point is 01:39:26 that. He should just come back, drop a 60 piece, then retire. Fire. Put myself in the house. I'm suspending myself. I'm done. Thought you was fucking with me. I'll see y'all next time.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Ja Wick is back. This show is brought to you by underdog fantasy Hell of a name Twitter was Show is brought to you by underdog fantasy. So let's get into some higher lower You're trying to get some bread trying to get our our money right for this holiday season again None of us are experts. So when he's the don't eat can y'all donate I got 50 cents, man I got fit just don't need
Starting point is 01:40:05 you how you have 50 cent and you doing 50 cent no that's all I have left I lost at least a dollar so we have seven games on the slate tonight so let's make say you through some of the most interesting pick-em options for Underdog Fantasy. So look at that, higher, lower graphic. Underdog Fantasy really blessed us and bestowed a lot upon us. Giving away $100,000 for a shootout. Mm-hmm. I heard giving raises.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Mm-hmm. That they don't know about yet. Mm-hmm. But they're going to find out about soon. Also, if you don't like our pics, think we suck at this, then feel free to fade us. I don't know shit about this terminology. I just learned what that meant.
Starting point is 01:40:51 That means you're not fucking with us. Fade? I'm fading. I'm not rocking. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, we're from fades a little bit different. Fade, yes. People are feeling kind of way about the Thanksgiving pics, Gil. Oh, yeah, wait.
Starting point is 01:41:06 How did those do? If I went ten and four and you damn near went against damn near everything I see, you was trash. Okay, so don't listen to me. Don't listen to me. First game, Lakers at Pistons. How many games Pistons lost now? 13, 14, 15, 17?
Starting point is 01:41:21 Shit. Wait, what? So Lakers at Pistons tonight. 14 losses in a row for the Pistons Detroit. Yeah, and we was around It was on that type of losing streak to over there. I mean it just runs I guess yeah, what are you saying? I'm just saying good think about it. Think about it. What are you saying? We have nothing but love respect for the fire. I'm saying you run up on me You run up on me in a locker room
Starting point is 01:41:46 Basketball gods. All right, yeah. You better beat that schedule. Man, we will not be going to the ZK. We will not be going to the ZK. He saw his tree.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Let me go here and stop, man. I totally appreciate you. We will not be pulling up to the ZK in 2024 or something. Let me go inside his tree. Let me go in his stuff, man. At that time, we appreciate you. We will not be pulling up to the Z-Canon in 2024. Unfortunately, we will do Zoom interviews only. You're going to get me fucked up, Gil. They think I'm you. They associate you with me with you. Leave that man alone, all right?
Starting point is 01:42:18 I know. Shit. See where you came from. I like it. He's actually playing well. He's doing a good job. Shout out, Beef Stew. And the city of Detroit
Starting point is 01:42:29 Fine people but LeBron 6.5 assists Higher or lower he's averaging six point three point five assists this season This is the shit that Brian's my gears when it be right on it against Detroit higher tonight. It's the tire. Yeah Then one of those guys my fingers and they just got smacked Yeah, he's one of them 44 paced. I'm gonna go higher go today Unless I feel strongly against his opinion I'm gonna agree with Gil no, I feel like off last wait. What is there other options? Let me do let me hope I'm just let me host. Okay, I'm getting better. We're gonna go higher. Okay, I'm just... Let me host. I'm getting better at this. I'm going to go higher. I'm getting better at this thing.
Starting point is 01:43:07 I feel like Brian should be in hater mode, though. Y'all lost that last game, so I'm going to take it on him. But LeBron rebounds. 8.0 rebounds. Higher or lower. He's averaging 7.5 rebounds this season. Okay, he had zero last game, which means he's consciously going to be trying to rebound. First time since 2010 or something.
Starting point is 01:43:28 He's consciously going to be rebounding, so he might get eight. All right. But he's not going to get nine? Because that means now you're thinking, is he going to get a double-double? I think he's going to get a triple-double tonight. It's Detroit. Oh! No, but I'm dead.
Starting point is 01:43:42 No, I mean, that's one of the minutes. We might not play that many minutes. But, you know, we got some lingering beef. He might get ran up on So Detroit got rebounders to they got the young boy that rebounds you got your dad rebounds of I Like I personally just like this is he like yes, I, so that means he has to get nine rebounds? He has to get, or you can go lower. I'm going lower than eight. I don't like these ones because if he hits eight, then it basically don't count. And it's like shit.
Starting point is 01:44:13 It seems like either he's going to get eight or a double-double. Right, so if you think he's going to get a double-double, then you have to go with the higher. So we'll go AD now. 2.5 blocks higher or lower. He's averaging 2.8 blocks per game this season. Tie for most in the league with Brooke Lopez. Against Detroit? Yeah, I'm going to take the higher.
Starting point is 01:44:31 Okay. Everything higher today. Everything higher. We got to do hater days, too, where we just go lower on everything, whatever it is. That was me on Thanksgiving. Lower. I'm not doing shit, except for turnovers. All right, so AD, 23.5 points.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Higher or lower, he's averaging 21.8 points per game this season. Higher. Okay, you think he's going to get the... He could be one of those 30 and 17 games for AD. He played like dog shit last game, so he coming. Dog shit. We should hire you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:05 This is... I've lost 14 games in a row. Still got some good young players. Cade Cunningham being one of them. So, Cade, 30.5 points in assists combined, higher or lower. He's averaging 22.2 and 7.1 assists per game this season. 22.7, so he's at 29? Yeah, it's about 29.3. 30.5 is the higher or lower for points and assists.
Starting point is 01:45:30 I'm going lower. Lower? Ooh. Who's going to be guarding him? I don't know. Someone has to get... It's just assists and points? Correct.
Starting point is 01:45:41 I mean, someone has to put up numbers, but if they're getting blown out, he's going gonna get subbed out. But it is the Lakers, Gilson. Like, we're under, but again, if they get blown out, then AD and Bron are gonna get subbed out too. It is the Lakers, so this shit could very well go down to the wire.
Starting point is 01:45:56 I think the Lakers will win, but it could definitely be- I don't know why anybody would bet on the Lakers. Chat, chat what y'all think. What y'all think? Why do y'all do this with the Lakers? Chat, what y'all think? I want to chat. What do y'all think? They gonna say lower why do y'all do this with the lake at what y'all think I want to chat What do y'all think they don't say lower if they say Lord then we're going Lord. Okay, Laura. Okay, they're saying lower
Starting point is 01:46:12 Higher Lord Lord. We're gonna go low lower. Sorry. Don't go low. We don't believe me 30 30 and a half All right. Now let's move on Sixers Pelicans Okay on the road six on the road to Pelican. So let's move on. Sixers, Pelicans. Okay. Sixers on the road to Pelicans, so let's talk about reigning MVP. 10.5 rebounds. Higher or lower? NB. NB, 10.5 rebounds, higher or lower.
Starting point is 01:46:35 He's averaging 11.3. Higher. They play small ball, higher. You think Zion ain't going higher? Higher. They need a fist fight. 2.5 blocks and steals combined higher or lower is every 1.9 blocks 1.0 steals Wait steals and steals and block. I like when under die. I like when y'all do that shit. I
Starting point is 01:46:56 Like the convo's and blocks 2.5 is the higher or lower he's averaging 2.9 total between blocks and steals. That's a Pelican. That's a tough one. Yeah, so you got, who's the drivers? You got Zion, he ain't gonna really block Zion like that. Kennan, you were so good the whole show. I don't know, I don't like it. Down? Lower? Yeah, I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Yo, this is your show? I don't like it. I cannot pick. I'm literally just saying it's your show, you get to do what you saying sure you get to do it you want and we have to accept it. So we got two others We are higher higher See I don't like that. Is he chatty? I'm gonna be positive today. Just a personal gripe I don't like any time is like 0.5 turn or whatever just too much time in the game and too much janky stuff that could happen I like things that I can get locks get by the end of the first quarter.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Big man. And now I'm watching Salty like, was that a block or a steal? Man, he just got fouled, so the block don't count. I usually take the block. When it's blocking and steal, I usually like to take the over. Yeah. I mean the higher. So now let's move to Zion.
Starting point is 01:48:03 23.5 points. Higher or lower? He's averaging 23.4 this season. Higher. Higher. The game is fast enough for him. Debo mode. Yeah, no. Sixers. Sixers trying to get some buckets. Higher. Last but not least, Brandon Ingram. 23.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 24.6 points per game this season. It's almost identical to the 24.7 he averaged last season. Lower. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Tyrese Maxey ain't on there? Nah. What? Yeah, I go lower for Ingram. Underdog, stop doing that shit, too. Put Maxey on there. Yeah'm going high. Yeah, I go Laura for Ingram. $100, stop doing that shit too. Put Maxie on there. Yeah, he cooking. Stop disrespecting them.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Who has to guard B.I.? Tobias, right? Tobias. Give me 25. He giving 25. I'm about to say. Yeah, he about to give that light-skinned dude some work. I'm going to holler at them and beat them.
Starting point is 01:49:11 We need a little higher, lower. They might go 30 and 28. It might be one of those from the combined. Because I think they know what they're doing now. Who, Zion and... Zion, yeah. They're going to give us about... They're figuring it out. They know what they're doing now. Who, Zion and... Zion, yeah. Then they're going to give us about... They're going to give us about combined,
Starting point is 01:49:27 probably 55 to 60 points combined. So last game, Clippers at Kings. We're going to talk about where's Paul though, PG. 24.5 points, higher or lower. Who we playing against? It's... Low. Lower.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I had Sacramento. No? Second night of back-to-back right or am I tripping? Oh damn. Oh no the Kings are on the back-to-back. Them young boys moving. They moving up and down. Yeah they don't get tired like the... So you said what's the points? So 24.5 points higher lower he's averaging 24.2 points per game this season. Had a season-low six points last game versus the Nuggets. Trash! Bounce back 20.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Pauly out here getting it. Bounce back game against them. 25. Shout out Pauly, our director, AD, sound effect guy, legend. I'm going to go higher. For PG? I'm going to go lower.
Starting point is 01:50:19 I'm going lower, too. I'm going to go lower. I don't know. I feel like this could be a game where he actually cooks because they rotate now. Yeah, and that's what it's like, you know, they rotate now. Yeah, and that's what it looks like. It's like they're rotating.
Starting point is 01:50:28 James Harden is not, it's like he's not shooting enough to get 25 or 26. So it has to be P.J. or Kawhi right at this point. So I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just, I'm not happy with it. But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna think he, I think he'll do 26. So 1.5 blocks and steals combined, higher or lower. Is he? Yeah, he's averaging 0.2 blocks per game, 1.9 steals per game this season. These are tough, man.
Starting point is 01:50:54 This is scary. Yeah, why do people do this? He needs two blocks and steals? Give me high. On a deep end? Yeah, give me high. He's got Sacramento play so fast. He can get two steals or two, a block and a steal.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Yeah, I'm going high. He's beat again. He don't want to lock up, though. Now a steal. Yeah, I'm going home. He's been a game. He don't want to lock up, though. Now I'm yelling at the TV. I'd rather take that than the points. Okay. Okay. Now we got a friend of the show, Russell Westbrook.
Starting point is 01:51:13 9.5 rebounds and assists combined, higher or lower. He's averaging 6.3 rebounds, 5.3 assists. Higher. So, but let me just devil's advocate, Ruth. It feels too good. This is the shit that be feeling too good to be true. And they be knowing something. Like they know his analytics versus the Kings and he don't really, you know, I'm like, because last game he was cooking.
Starting point is 01:51:32 You think they be setting people up? I'm just saying rebounds. This one feels like a setup. They said 9.5. So you get five rebounds and five assists. And he's got it. Some type of combination. But I'm just telling you, this is the, this one, because it looked too easy.
Starting point is 01:51:45 If I'm going to get the Josh Giddy, give it to me. I'm taking the trap. I'm taking the trap. Gil, this is not a joking matter. I know it ain't. But someone has to do it since nobody wants to report on it. Ladies and gentlemen, as always. I'm forced to report on it.
Starting point is 01:52:03 As always. Give me the hire. Underdog Fantasy does not support the views expressed on this show. They let us cook. They understand that we're a black show and we get reckless at times. I'm taking the trap. Okay. I understand that. I'm taking the trap. Give it to me. Sorry, Dad.
Starting point is 01:52:18 Hire. Hire. I know. Someone has to do it. So like we mentioned, Kings run a second night over back-to-back. That's weird We didn't even think about it. Why is big media ain't even talking about it, though They just do news and no reaction that's why gills arena is here for the time like okay They're actually everything else for everything else that I think people are kind of like Asking that same question because they're just so used to the outrage reporting.
Starting point is 01:52:48 So we need to sit down with the Australian version of Jalen Rose to really see what the fuck's going down. Don't sit with Andrew Bogut. He's selling off his business. Andrew Bogut got it. Yeah, I heard that. Nigga, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, what the hell? Fuck you all over here.
Starting point is 01:53:03 So Kings run a second out of a back-to-back. Let's focus on clutch player of the year from last season, De'Aaron Fox. 27.5 points, higher or lower. He's averaging a career-high 29.8 points per game this season. He dropped 29 last night on the Warriors. Ooh, back-to-back? Yeah, he's getting after it. He's getting after it.
Starting point is 01:53:20 That young gentleman, he got them Currys on, man. He good. Yeah, I forgot about him. He stole. I forgot about... He stole his powers. Damn. He stole his powers. You said he stole his powers? Damn. Take my shit off. Where's it at?
Starting point is 01:53:32 In Sac. In Sac, yeah. He got 31 piece. At home? 31. Light the beam. 31. All right, dear.
Starting point is 01:53:40 That beam is phenomenal. Shout out Sacramento, all right? That was a great move. Light the beam. Whatever it is. It kind of smells like cow boo boo out Sacramento. All right, that was a great move like the beam Whatever it is kind of smells like cow boo boo out there. But other than that you got fine fine entertainment venues nice people It do smell like a good basketball team now in a really good team that you deserve. Yeah cows and that's
Starting point is 01:53:59 That's how you drive through Central Cali going in them tournaments in Fresno Shout out to Fresno too though, but now let's get into our last statement of that's the only person on set What I guess it's only one. Yeah, I mean, that's the night. That's good mostly fans my underdog fantasy We asked you guys to give us some questions you delivered You don't hire lower than You delivered. You're going higher or lower tonight. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I'm going to get fired. All right, first question comes from Underdog User BigShep62. Why do players block players from shooting when it's a timeout or stoppage? That's a petty as hell. That is petty. It's this thing of rhythm. You don't want a player to see the ball go in. So if someone like Klay, right, he's struggling, right, you don't want him to take those shots because that's what a player do.
Starting point is 01:55:02 A player who hasn't found his rhythm yet, he's trying to use that as getting shots. So someone like Klay, all he has to do is see the ball go in. That ball going in triggers him to. But as a Devils advocate, yourself or Klay, somebody does that, let's say KG grabs it out, don't you in your mind just already think, oh, it wasn't going to go in? No, sometimes you got to see it.
Starting point is 01:55:21 It's a visual thing. I want to see the ball go in. That should be making me laugh. So me. That's what's most to block those shots. I used to do that against the ticket, right? I used to tell, hey, anytime there's something happening, throw the ball up there, he's going to jump. So let him jump an extra 40-something times, hopefully by the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:55:39 You know, hopefully by the fourth quarter, he's a little tired, right? So every time something happens, just throw it up there. He's going to try to block it. He just sitting there jobbing up. It didn't work It didn't work But you know the fact that I don't think this really is indicative of who you are the human being the fact that knowledge you Think about that, but try to get that off of the game this thing are we get him to jump 10 Yeah, Jim today. You might get higher times and hopefully by the fourth quarter. He ain't got no leg that work All right, next question. I ain't got no leg that work He's not ready you don't got the you don't got the he got little legs half straight for that
Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah, dog don't know how to jump. Let's move on to question number two underdog user, I ain't calling no grown man Daddy MC. I'll just. Daddy MC? Daddy MC is the username. In the prime of your careers, what would you add to enhance your game? Steph Curry's three point shot,
Starting point is 01:56:40 MVP Rose athleticism, LeBron durability, Shaq strength, Kobe work ethic choose one Probably LeBron's durability I mean cuz I got hurt so I thought it said LeBron's do-rag ability at first, but it said durability. Do-rag ability. I feel like I'm about to step into my prime right now. So I would say Steph's shooting ability, I feel like I can take my shooting to another level. So I think that would be great.
Starting point is 01:57:20 And just, you already can shoot good. So if you had MVP Rhodes Athletics, you could be out there win milling up I want to do that just say you don't want to win milling on down You've never had like okay No, okay. I want to shoot five thousand threes. I'm saying you already have the three-pointer You already have that like that, but you need Why I told you I don't be taking enough threes in games So now I want to try to get them like.
Starting point is 01:57:45 We're going to get that right. We're going to holler and see what's going on. We will check back. I would have to say probably Kobe's work ethic. Okay. I would have that. His work ethic. And last question.
Starting point is 01:57:58 It's a video question. Underdog user, look at me 59. What's up, Giz Arena? Hey, yo, which NBA player you think would make his first All-NBA this year? And will Victor Wimbyama make an All-NBA this year? First of all, who cut his mustache? I mean, how low did he go on this one? Giz, that man has a backwards beanie on.
Starting point is 01:58:21 He did it himself. First All-NBA. Who's going to make their first All-NBA? So let me give you some notable players that have yet to make any All-NBA teams. Jamal Murray, Jalen Brunson, LaMelo Ball, Tyrese Halliburton, and Edwards, Tyrese Maxey. Halliburton for sure. Yeah, Halliburton or LaMelo. I think LaMelo could have, if he gets back.
Starting point is 01:58:46 I mean, he's going to be missing some time with that anchor in. Jump! And this is the other part we have to... Yeah, I thought he was about to jump. He did. The other thing we have to factor in now... That's that dog built funny. He's a wiener dog. Yeah, it's like it's...
Starting point is 01:58:57 That's how they are. It's like... Another day on... Exactly. Another day on Gills Arena. Don't body shame my dog. Oh, my fault. I forgot that is a thing.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Thank you. Players have to play 65 games to be eligible for postseason awards, so just keep that in mind. LaMelo's going to miss him extended time. I don't know if it's going to be 17 games or more. He was hooping. He was hooping. There's going to be some guys with hurt feelings this season.
Starting point is 01:59:23 I will say that. Tyrese maxi Maxi and Halliburton. Um, yeah, Halliburton. Um, they ain't doesn't that make yeah Anthony Edwards for sure. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I would like to see Jamal Murray because he ain't playing well no we haven't played in a 11 games It feels like he might be in another one those guys who's not even going to be eligible. Okay. Averaging, but he's still averaging like 14, 16 anyway.
Starting point is 01:59:51 He got the particular. And then there's the, will Wim be making all NBA teams? So just for the record, last three rookies to make all NBA, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, both made third team. Michael Jordan, oh, Timmy was first team. Jordan was second team. David Robinson was third team. Timmy was first team, Jordan was second team, David Robinson was third team. Tim Duncan was first team,
Starting point is 02:00:07 rookie year? Or he won his rookie year? Yeah. He won second year. Second year. I don't think so. Not this year. He turns the ball over too much.
Starting point is 02:00:16 No, not this year. Not this year. No. For Wimby? No. No. I mean, to be honest, unless he goes on the hell of a
Starting point is 02:00:22 second half, I mean, at the end of it is like what we remember last so you know if there's if you know in that February stretch and he 50 48 51 of them type of numbers and they're winning they'll put him on I could definitely see uh you know like a flinky like I I feel like he's just gonna... Yeah, like the dog in Toy Story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that the same type of dog? Ah, he got little legs. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:00:54 He wants to jump so bad. I'm waiting with bated breath to see if the dog tried to jump off this couch. He's looking. We already know when he jumps, he's going like... Another glorious day. Like a chew toy. Another glorious day in the arena. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:01:12 You as always, for giving us an opportunity to help provide for our families. Lexi, appreciate having you back on the couch. This is your only day this week, right?
Starting point is 02:01:21 You're back next week, though. And one day next week. Y'all hate me? Me too. Yeah, me too. I think I only got one. I don't see y'all too late No, it was my father's we got a doctor's appointment side. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't see y'all too late next Wednesday Don't look at me. I'm not the one who do this get him Don't look at me. I've been getting a look at I've been getting thrown under guillotine. Ooh Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 02:01:44 Get a long Ooh. Yeah, yeah. That's a segment. The guillotine. You had a long weekend. Ooh. Yep. I got a long weekend. I ain't back on until next Wednesday. I've been fighting for my life. A glorious Thanksgiving weekend. I get involved. Let's all enjoy ourselves. You know, take care of yourselves
Starting point is 02:02:00 and each other like Jerry Spinner used to say. Rest in peace to the legend. We will see you guys what's today? Wednesday? Tomorrow's Thursday? I'm tired of the chat. Listen, listen, go ahead. You know, I've been getting I've been getting called out for this like Like free Miko. Oh Right. Yeah. No, no, they keep saying in the chat free Miko. So she wanted me to dress it That's what you've been saying. Okay, so Miko will still negotiate with Miko. And that's our show for today. We will see y'all on Thursday on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 02:02:30 That motherfucker's out of here. Whoa, whoa. We'll be right back. Thank you. Outro Music

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