Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates If The Warriors Dynasty Is COOKED
Episode Date: November 29, 2023Gil's Arena Debates If The Warriors Dynasty Is COOKED as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew react to another brutal loss for the Warriors and debate whether or not this is the end for the core of... Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson. The crew also dissects the elite eight for the NBA's In Season Tournament and reflect on pool play for the NBA's first tournament before addressing the shocking news of Mark Cuban selling a majority stake in the Dallas Mavericks. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters INTRO 0:00:00 SHOW START 0:03:35 Jeremy Sochan's Ketchup on Pizza 0:12:10 Mark Cuban Sells The Mavs 0:21:14 Jason Kidd Wants Positivity 0:37:33 An NBA Player's Relationship With The Media 0:48:07 Revisiting The Josh Giddey Situation 0:54:08 Is The Dubs Dynasty Cooked? 1:01:38 Gil Explains Steph's Turnover Problems 1:07:58 Klay's Frustrations This Season 1:15:13 Draymond Gets A Tech In His Return 1:24:50 The Warriors ARE COOKED 1:31:32 In Season Tournament Predictions 1:33:35 Gil Previews Ja Morant's Return 1:39:56 Higher/Lowers 1:42:00 MostlyFans 1:56:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mark Cuban sold a majority stake in the Mavs,
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Just show up. It said 9 a.m. on that.
I'm like, that's early.
Man, that'd be good to start off the year.
Honey, can't you start off the year?
That's what's great at, yes.
I'll get out of bed before 2.30.
Honey.
Hey, boss. I got to practice. Yes, I'll get out of bed for 2 30 Yeah, my boss
Some of you ladies might be dumped
It's like just like when 2k come out, you know me
Be here for a while
Everybody's invited if you're the working, you have a jumper, pull up.
Get your practice right.
What is it?
We're doing five shots from five spots?
Yeah, so I think it's college three, which is a little in front of the...
No, that's like a little bit behind the...
High school.
High school three, right?
So college three, five spots, five shots.
Right, so a total of 25 shots.
Okay, so we've got a special Mostly Fans question
from Underdog User by the name of Shotmaker10.
Shotmaker10?
Well, I feel like this is Rashad, but...
I'm practicing for the shootout.
How many makes do I need to average per day to be ready?
And he also wanted to know,
what's the most threes you've hit in a real game?
I hit 14 in high school.
He said no cap.
I know, I? I hit 14 in high school. He said no cap. I know.
I've never hit 14.
So Shotmaker 10.
So Shotmaker is his name.
Shotmaker 10.
So he should know the answer to this.
Yeah, so he already is fucking shooter.
Right, Shotmaker.
Shotmaker, for you to even have a chance, you got to take 1,000 makes.
2,000 makes.
Yeah, 2,000 makes.
Get his ass some tendonitis before the shoot.
Nah, but I mean...
It's like what, 200 makes?
200 makes a day?
Yeah.
If you start now?
200 makes a day.
Yeah.
Makes, though.
Makes.
So, you're probably shooting...
Him?
Shot makes.
Shot maker.
Shot maker. He should have been shooting more than 450.
He probably from either Indiana, right?
Probably Utah.
Probably Arizona.
Do those states produce buckets?
Those are shooters?
Shooters, yeah.
Those are shooters states?
Those are white states because he's Iowa.
There we go.
There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably is. Boston. Those are shooters. Those are white states. Iowa. There we go. There we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He probably is.
Boston.
Boston?
Yeah.
I don't know.
How many shooters come out of Boston?
Mr. Shotmaker.
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Mr. Shotmaker.
Yeah, yeah.
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What's the most threes that you've hit in a real game?
In a real game, probably NBA 8.
You are correct.
February 28, 2004, against the Lakers.
How about high school?
Wait, 2000 what?
2004.
Oh, so that wasn't a 60-pointer game.
I think you had like 35.
35?
Yeah.
Lexi, how about yourself?
How many?
I don't even know.
Maybe five or six.
OK.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't be getting that many up.
That's going to change. Any of you That's gonna change. How about high school?
I wasn't shooting threes like that in high school.
Yeah, it was blow by.
How about you?
Do you know your career high for makes in the NBA?
Seven.
You were close.
Eight twice.
Eight twice?
Yeah, you had seven during the 55.
That was nice.
Shooting that thing.
Don't leave me open.
When you were a piston and I'm waiting and versus the Kings. You're not 755. That was nice. Shooting that thing. Don't leave me open.
When you were a piston, and I'm waiting,
and versus the Kings,
when you were with the Bucs.
Okay.
It was too easy to get to the basket.
So I didn't, you know.
All right, so now this season I got to get eight or more.
I think now, like, if you played, it would be way higher now.
Because the three-line play.
But I don't know.
Like, I don't know if I will settle.
See, that was my thing.
Like, back then, you're backing up because you want me to shoot it, which, no, I'm going to drive.
So I'm not going to settle like the guys do.
I'm just going to keep going to the basket knowing that you don't want me there.
Yeah, but from your range, though, like, and the way they play.
Like, I feel like you would have, like, 12 threes in this game.
But you would have to shoot threes because even if you keep getting to the basket, they're going to go down and keep shooting threes.
Cool.
Twos aren't going to offset the threes.
60%, 30%.
Like, if you look at the top scores, they're all mid-range and layup guys.
They're not very, they're not high three-point shooting makers.
Besides Steph.
And Luka.
But even Luka is, Luka don't take a lot of threes.
Trae Young takes a lot of threes.
But he's 26.
We're going to talk about Steph and Luka a little bit later in the show.
We got a lot to get into.
But we got to start with some questionable coming out of San Antonio.
So Spurs forward turn point guard Jeremy Sohan is still working on his court vision but is he seeing the
vision with how he likes his pizza no that's disgusting oh my god ketchup on pizza
oh my god no what you think about ketchup on pizza, man?
Try it.
Try it.
No.
Yo, that's so dope.
Like the vets, like the guys who played for me, they look like they stuck around.
Yeah.
They hang out in San Antonio, which is even more impressive.
Just being real.
No, not to the city.
It's not a premier destination.
You never said, I'm going to San Antonio, right?
No, but I mean, it makes destination. You never said I'm going to San Antonio
It makes sense they thought they never really went anywhere else. Yeah, but I don't know any better you live there for 12 14 years That's actually your home. You could probably ball out San Antonio, though
Big ass ranch. Yeah, you know how much knowledge I'll be trying to get from Ginobili
like in that
In that arena locker room or you know every day
So let's talk about this ketchup on pizza
In theory ketchup on pizza can make sense though tomato sauce is a key ingredient and ketchup is technically a tomato sauce
But are y'all rolling with the ketchup on the pizza a lot of ketchup?
It was agreed. I was like a lot of ketchup for anything that even requires ketchup. That's disgusting. I wasn't poor. I had regular
ketchup. I had regular tomato sauce. You know the ketchup? That looked like poor people's shit
where you didn't have actual tomato sauce. You didn't have spaghetti sauce or whatever pizza
sauce. Whatever they put on that and your mama just threw ketchup on it and then spread it around, threw a little cheese.
Oh, wait, can I interrupt
this conversation real quick? Yes.
My mother just texted me and reminded me that I had
10 threes last year in France.
Ah!
Ah!
Shout out to Mama Brown.
She said, excuse me, ma'am, you had 10 threes in France.
That's a good mom. First of all, how do you
not know that?
You should.
I don't even speak that much.
Overseas basketball is gone.
Speaking of moms, happy birthday, mom.
Happy birthday, mom.
And my dad's birthday.
Happy birthday, mom.
Happy birthday, Shawnee.
It's Mr. Brown?
Mm-hmm.
There's a lot of birthdays today.
Sorry to take us back to that.
He was the original dapper.
Please.
Right? He was the original Dapper. Please. Right?
He was the original?
Go get him back.
Hey!
Hey!
Hey, look, he had it together, but he was the original A.
He reminded us often when that day started.
Oh, he did?
He's like, I did that.
That's me.
Could he see?
No.
Okay, see?
That's a good daughter.
That's a good daughter. Good daughter. But yes, see? That's a good daughter. That's a good daughter.
Good daughter.
But yes, 10 threes, okay, everybody.
Sorry.
Yep.
We appreciate you.
Yeah.
Thanks, Mom.
You got 10 threes, but how do you feel about ketchup on pizza?
Disgusting.
Ketchup doesn't belong on pizza.
It's a privilege.
You said you had ketchup spaghetti?
Hell no.
I had the real sauce.
I can afford the real sauce.
Like, I didn't have the regular Wonder Bread with the cheese and the ketchup put in there,
call it pizza.
No, no, no.
I had regular Domino's Pizza Hut, the real one back then when the shit was actually good.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, yeah.
They packed you out with the cheese and all that.
I had regular pizza.
I didn't have the creative pizza. I didn't have the created pizza.
I didn't have the created hamburgers and shit that your mom and pop made.
No, I had the regular store.
Not that big block of...
So no ketchup on pizza?
Huh?
So no ketchup on pizza?
Okay.
No ketchup.
Yeah, no ketchup on pizza.
Hot sauce on pizza.
Ranch.
Sriracha?
Ranch.
Ranch.
Ranch on pizza.
Ranch and ketchup. Yeah, ranch and hot sauce on Ranch. Ranch. Ranch on pizza. Ranch and ketchup.
Yeah, ranch and hot sauce on pizza for sure.
I've never tried hot sauce.
Any day.
What?
Actually ketchup on a lot of, I mean, hot sauce on a lot of things.
The Papa John's.
You talking about the Papa John's?
I don't want no veggies on my pizza.
Like, pineapples?
Pineapples?
Yeah.
Hawaiian?
You like pineapple?
What?
Ugh.
Y'all like hot fruit?
What? Y'all like hot like hot fruit
Like who like probably the weirdest like eats hot fruit
Just pineapples nah, I like like I do pineapple and I like I'm weird. I like seafood pizza
So like lobster and pineapple
No, you really?
Lobster people lobster and pineapple No, you read yeah. Yeah, like lobster people shrimp and pineapple
Brand you never over
Hot fruit anchovies like like pineapple hot fruit on a pizza is disgusting what?
Like like the only like the only thing that could be hot is, like, an apple pie. That's what someone was talking about during Thanksgiving.
Because they don't like pies because they're like, hot fruit is nasty.
And I'm like, okay, when you put it that way.
Well, I mean, apple pie.
Peach cobbler?
Peach cobbler?
I mean, with vanilla ice cream.
I mean, I like pie.
You know, so it's not.
I think I'm weird.
I like apple pie, cherry pie.
I like pies.
What's the other one?
Peach cobbler.
Uh-huh.
No fruit.
So I'm the one that. Just the sauce?'m not yeah, I like this is the sauce and the sweet, but I just cut out all the
fruit throw that in the trash
So
Reads my next question. What's the most trifling thing that you put on food that if people saw it that'd be like
Yeah, you're not right in the head.
Sometimes I put sriracha mayo on my eggs.
Sriracha, what?
Sriracha mayonnaise.
Mayonnaise?
Mayonnaise.
Oh, no!
Mayonnaise.
Extra mayonnaise!
I mean, on the bottle, it looks like it's, um.
Yeah, I got some up there, yeah.
Yeah.
That's what's on the bottle, sriracha.
Yeah, it's orange.
I put that on my eggs and
Mayonnaise no mayonnaise is like something I'm just I don't like mayonnaise either but oh man probably cereal I
Do strawberry milk I do strawberry milk and
Agave but Before it was honey, but now agave. What kind of cereal?
Oh, so then I got to mix
Fruity Pebbles
with Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
Yo, you're a kid, bro.
You are a child.
What? Y'all grew up?
Who wants to grow up?
That's a lot of sugar.
Huh?
Yes.
What kind of cereal do you eat?
I eat all types of cereal,
but not often.
Oh, yes.
I do like Fruity Pebbles. Yeah, but, but not often. Oh, I do like Rudy Pebbles
Yeah, but with regular almond milk, I need a strawberry Captain Crunch. Whoo
What okay, I'm crunch berries. I'm Captain Crunch berries. What is going on? It's like carbonous
No, no, like when the milk is done like see that's what happens when the milk is done. You get that flavored milk
So I was like yo, I'm gonna treat because my dad tried to make me do healthy.
So it was like not even Frosted Flake, it was that bland kind.
It was like K, K, special, special K. And then it was like, there's no taste in here.
So I had to create the strawberry milk and then that.
You see the football player that put mayonnaise in his coffee?
What?
His name is like
Will,
Will,
uh,
Levi's or something like that.
That is Axel.
Yeah, Will Levis.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he puts like,
he puts mayonnaise
in his coffee.
Is he Samoan?
He is mayonnaise.
No, he's white.
He is mayonnaise.
Hey, y'all ever,
speaking of foods,
weird stuff,
do y'all ever watch shows where they have, like,
weird things that they do, like eat, like...
Like seat covers and shit like that, toilet paper.
Oh, like Michael Mann's Addiction?
Use diapers. I'm just gonna...
Like, use diapers. Somebody use diapers.
Now, the problem with this is...
it's mostly women... that have these weird eating things.
Like, it's always weird eating, like ashes.
Like, yeah, someone's eating ashes.
Like, come on, y'all.
What is going on?
What is going on?
That's my strange addiction.
That is?
But I will say men do weird things like be in relationships with their cars.
Sexual, emotional relationships with their cars.
I don't know the money we spent on that.
The money we spent.
So we talk about weird things on that show.
That was an episode.
Yes.
Oh, I'm on the word.
That's what y'all do.
I had a teammate who was addicted to his rims.
He spent 10K on it and literally just know the weird thing is watching people eat people who'll be eating like the seafoods and
Watch them eat and like the crunching and all that's not weird like
You do overdo
Overdue
Yeah, do like those.
That's a whole genre. It's a living vicariously through these people because they're eating things that I just,
my stomach can't handle, but they make it look so good.
They're having like king crab legs, though.
And they just be tearing them up.
Crazy.
Let's talk about some basketball, shall we?
So big news coming out of Dallas on Tuesday.
It was announced that Mark Cuban is selling a majority stake in the Mavs.
So Shams put up the tweet.
It said, sources Mark Cuban selling majority stake of the Dallas Mavics
to Miriam Adelson and casino tycoon Adelson family
for a valuation in the range of $3.5 billion.
In one of the most unique setups in NBA history,
Cuban gets to keep shares and team in full control of basketball operations.
So this family, I believe, owns the Sands Corporation,
which used to be heavy in Vegas.
I think they now are overseas in Macau and Singapore or whatever,
but still getting that back.
And I think she sold like 10% of stocks she owns in the company,
and that was valued at like $2 billion.
So big baller.
Cuban cashing out, though.
He bought the Mavs in 2000
for 285 million, and now he's cashing out
while still calling the shots.
Cuban also announced that he's quitting Shark Tank,
so he might be going through some things.
I love that show.
Pretty good show.
He's probably going through, I wanna enjoy life.
I say three, four, five billion.
Yeah, I wanna enjoy life.
Still and probably.
Thoughts on something new?
So here we'll start with you.
Thoughts on Mark Cuban selling the majority stake in the Mavs,
but still maintaining control of the basketball ops?
I mean, smart move.
I mean, you know, big, big-time money play gives him whatever freedom that he's looking for,
and he still gets to be around a game that he loves, right?
So, it's not like he's going away.
He just, you know, it's time to sell,
and I can move on in a different direction financially,
you know, invest in other things,
and then I can just focus strictly on basketball.
I like it.
Yeah, $3.5 billion.
That's, I think, the total value.
I thought it would be more based on just how teams have been moving nowadays, but.
No, good for him.
I mean, I saw a lot of negative responses to him doing that.
Like, so I'm about to come out.
I'm just like, why can't a guy just wanna cash out and enjoy his life?
What?
I do like him on Shark Tank though, so that kinda makes me upset, but good for
him. I didn't realize Cuban was 65, so he's been in this game.
He's good for 65.
He's out here.
He's been here a long time.
I mean, you know, he's been a great owner for years.
I mean, he takes care of teams when we come in and makes sure everybody's great.
So, I mean, he's just getting rewarded.
The basketball guys are rewarding him for being a great owner and for what he does.
So you mentioned him being a great owner even from an outside perspective.
Nobody here has played for the Mavs, but Cuban appeared on All the Smoke recently, broke
down.
One of the ways he tried to embarrass other owners while doing some low-key recruiting.
Every time you play the Dallas Mavericks, whether you win or lose, you win.
When you win, you get to eat you hey because it's a full buffet
laid out in the locker room barbecue beans cornbread everything gets you name it links
links all that ribs just sitting there that's barbecue sauce on the who's barbecue sauce that
is but shout out to them what what how did that come about though i wanted to embarrass other
owners oh that's what it was.
I'm like, they don't even, because I would hear from guys, you know, we don't get this.
You know, we're guys we would trade for.
You know, guys would tell me, I just went from the outhouse to the penthouse.
You know, and I'm like, okay, I just want to rub it in a little bit.
And so I'm like, we're cooking for our guys.
Just make a little bit more and give it to the other guys.
And I used to put in, like, really plushush towels too, but y'all would steal them all.
And so it was like,
take them all home.
So some other info,
in a 2005 SI article about Cuban,
voted best visitors locker room
by 45% of the players.
And he also has been notorious
for taking care of his guys.
He put PlayStation 2,
sound like TV,
headphones,
facial recognition technology, all types of lighting
and other shit.
But just to show he really cared about the squad.
So you guys have all played.
You both have played at Dallas.
Do you agree Dallas had the best visitors locker room?
When it comes to the space in visitors locker room,
yeah, Dallas was probably the biggest.
Yeah.
Spatial-wise, yeah.
Yeah, space, food.
I mean, it just felt like a home game.
So they treat you all right.
So on the opposite side, who had the worst visitor's locker room?
Sharks.
Yeah, the Sharks.
Damn.
The old arena.
The old arena.
Yeah, the old arena. Okay.
Like when we first, that, bro.
It was the hockey, because it was hockey.
You know, that's where the hockey team was.
Bro, and it was like three showers in there.
Damn.
15 guys, three showers, and like everybody like this.
That was the worst.
That's funny, we both see it.
That's funny.
I mean, Boston, Boston's bad too.
But we have space, but it's just Boston, like the showers be cold.
You know, like.
You feel like they do that intentionally? Yeah, like it'd be freezing, like, but just Boston, like the showers be cold. You feel like they do that intentionally?
Yeah, it'd be freezing, but shoot around, it'd be like 13 degrees in there.
That food thing was really, really big in the NBA
because that's when owners really got smart.
I remember I had a conversation with A. Poland about that.
Like most of us are coming in here on empty stomachs practicing, I remember I had a conversation with A. Poland about that.
Most of us are coming in here on empty stomachs practicing,
and then when we leave, we're going to eat fast food.
We're young.
We don't know.
We don't have, we don't understand gourmet food.
Yeah, we have all the money, but we didn't come from college.
Think about what we ate in college coming from home,
so we don't understand chef and all that stuff. So it would be a better investment for you to have food here, lunch after practice or
breakfast.
Even when I left in 2010, we didn't have catering yet.
We didn't actually have catering inside that locker room yet.
We got catering on the food from Dallas and Cleveland. I thought LeBron was the first one,
I thought Cleveland at 2003, 2004,
was the first group to give the opponent food.
Because we was playing them in the playoffs.
Okay.
And then I remember like, yo, what is this?
They gave you our food, did you trust it?
Hell yeah.
I didn't know shit.
Man, like, let me think about it,
like as a hooper, as a Hooper, if this
is what you serve in us as the opposing team,
what are y'all getting over there?
Right?
And those little things is what made other teams attractable.
Yeah.
Attractive.
Attractive.
What the fuck is that?
Can you make up a new word every episode?
Today is attractive.
I didn't even take a shot yet.
What we got here?
Milk Palacio.
Shout out milk. Belizean legend.
Yes, yes. This is his joint right here.
Gave us...
Hey, man. These NBA players, man.
In the liquor business, they hooking your boy up.
Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, your bar look amazing.
Your bar look good.
My bar look good, right?
Got some legends up in there.
Free.
Free bar.
All free?
All free.
So Lexi, our producer wanted to know,
what was your experience like at Duke,
in terms of training table and all that type of stuff?
Our training table was great.
We had a chef. Her name was Sam. Me and her were like this
because I really love food. We had breakfast and dinner, I think, because we had class all day. We
had morning practices, breakfast after, and then we would have dinner later. The men, I think they
had three meals, but because me and her were so close, I would when they were done with their food, she would let me
go in and take some of the guys
leftover food and stuff.
Better or worse than WNBA?
Way better.
Okay, just curious.
At Duke? Yeah, for sure.
I will say when I was in Minnesota,
we had a chef
before practice, after practice,
after shoot around, after games, we would have food.
And I don't know how many teams do that, but I know Minnesota was, like, hands down my best experience as far as, like, nutrition and food and stuff.
Y'all didn't go to, like, y'all didn't go to dinner?
I mean, like, lunch or, like, as a team, like, out to restaurants?
What do you mean?
Y'all didn't go to restaurants?
In college?
Yeah.
Yeah, like, on the road, we would.
Not at home?
I mean, we would like ourselves.
Oh.
But like...
Not team funded?
They were poor.
No, we would have...
No, I will...
No, my second year in Maryland
is when all like the rules started changing
when they were able to like start paying for like outings.
So I was like my...
I think that was my second year in Maryland.
What year is this?
2014.
What did y'all have cracking in Arizona, Gil?
Because I know.
I don't even remember having a chef.
We had, it was called Pia Chains.
There was Ruth Critt.
No, not Ruth Critt.
Something Steakhouse, Outback Steakhouse.
Ooh.
Yeah, they brought it in every day.
Tony Roma's. Tony Roma's.
Like I remember we had a football player, his name was Pete Hanson, right?
And he was the shot block kicker on the football team.
So he was about 6'11, 6'10, right?
Had about a 46 inch vertical, right?
And he made the basketball team.
Man, he was like like i'm in heaven i'm in heaven because
he's taking back and he was like yo this is the best like he was really jealous he was he was
really jealous of what he's missed this whole time because i think that the athletes the duke
athletes had their own like training table type situation for like all the other sports but men's and women's basketball had their own that's
important it's important to establish the hierarchy we just we had but we
didn't know any other kind of yeah it was nice beautiful lovely so let's get
back to Mark Cuban just from your guys perspective I know neither of you play
for the Mavs,
but how is Cuban viewed as an owner by other players around the league?
For sure, top three.
Top three owners.
Platinum.
Ever.
Platinum.
Platinum tier.
Platinum tier.
Yeah.
Like from how he treats his players?
I mean, just put it like this.
He sells his team, but inside of this sale,
he still wants to be head of operations of basketball. That's how much he actually cares
about the actual game. The business part, he's probably like, I'm done with the business part
of it. But just the basketball side of it, I still want full control.
Yeah. Yeah, because I just saw them play. I just took my son to the game.
They played the Lakers. I just played the Lakers. I just took my son to the game. They played the Lakers.
Okay.
I just played the Lakers.
I just had my son King.
He met Mark Cuban was back there.
Just still involved, everything, like all up in it.
You could tell he still just enjoys it.
Was Cuban doing any dirty macking back in the day, like trying to recruit on the low?
He didn't have to.
No.
He don't have to.
Your locker room did it all.
I mean, y'all got PlayStation in here?
Yeah.
X-Ball.
Man, then you go back to your rusty-ass shit like,
oh, that's bullshit.
I remember, like, my rookie year, we was playing them.
And, you know, he's out there early shooting.
And I remember I had my high-top eight,
and I was shooting.
He was like, hey, man, you should keep that.
Like, that's good marketing.
Like, you know.
So he was just, like, just complimenting me on my marketing and that's good marketing like you know So he was just like just complimenting on my marketing and like how I was so it was pretty cool
So question for you guys
Why do we feel like we hear all this great shit about Cuban all this great stuff about the Mavs?
But it really hasn't translated into them landing big name free agents just historically
What do you think the issue is plus Texas? I think the tax situation you get to save a lot of your bread
They would seem like a marquee destination.
It is a marquee destination if the rules was even.
Like when you talk about marketing, you're talking about the NBA, right?
The destination is about the teams with the most money, right?
When you're talking about lockouts, when we have a lockout, the lockout is never about players' salary.
It's about owners not, they're not getting along, right?
Because, you know, Mark Cuban's overpaying for these free agents, which ups the value.
So if you're worth 50, right, and your team is ready to pay you 50, and he comes and says, I give you 70.
Now, you're worth 70 to him.
Now, whoever was in front of you, they automatically bump up.
So they were inflating, so there's four or five owners that was inflating the prices
in the free agency market, so they end up having a lockout.
That's what the lockout's for.
The owners don't get along.
And they try to figure out how to hard cap everything.
That's what they really want.
The poor owners want a hard cap
the richer owners don't they don't
They don't want it fair. Like don't tell me how to spend my money if I want to overpay for these Yeezys
I'm gonna overpay for these Yeezys. I really want them right so
What ends up happening is
The way the NBA is now the way the rules are they don't want you to leave your city
So like it's you know, you lose a year and money. So like if I can make a five-year 100 here
There you know, if I leave this four-year
65
Right. So it's that you know, there's such this big gap in the money situation where they don't want you to leave
So when he's looking for a free agent big free agents those big free agents like mmm
It's not like you're the Lakers or you know or the Knicks
Like I don't want to and we also got a preference that he did get Kyrie this summer to come back trade
But got him in a trade but got him to stay I mean, it's easy
Like once he gets there, it's easy to keep him.
It's just trying to say, like, I want to go out there and get LeBron.
Yeah.
Right, LeBron, I can make $200 million here, or I can go to you, make $135 in Dallas.
In Dallas.
No thanks.
You consider Dallas a small market?
Yeah, so, like, when you're talking about markets, you go, it's New York, L.A., right?
Boston, Chicago.
Well, I guess fucking San Francisco's done creeped in there.
Philly.
Philly.
Well, no, Philly's behind Washington and Miami.
And then it's Philly.
So I think Philly's probably like seven, eight now maybe.
Am I right?
You said Boston, right said Boston right already Boston
Media market so by media market, I think I'm looking at this as Mavs with like fifth in terms of TV Marcus
I mean Texas biggest shit obviously TV mark. I mean
Would you put Toronto in there Toronto's gonna be in there Toronto be top six at this point now. Yeah
Right where they at? Yeah, they're based based on, I think it's 2022 NBA market size rankings, Toronto is sixth.
Gil's out here getting it.
Look at you.
Not because, you know, when I'm a free agent, I'm thinking about shoe marketing and all that.
You have to really see what cities are popping.
Yeah.
Right?
You know, because it's all, you know, it all translates to money and popularity.
Popularity.
I wasn't going to say nothing.
Even little things like this.
You're better to be on the East Coast
for being a celebrity
unless you're that guy on the West.
Because the East Coast,
the West Coast gets to watch you play.
All the time. By the time a West Coast game comes gets to watch you play. Right. Right? All the time.
By the time a West Coast game comes on, right, unless you are the man, they're asleep.
Yeah.
Right?
It's 10 o'clock, 10.30 by the time a West Coast game comes on.
So people are just sitting there, you know, getting ready to fall asleep.
So they don't really watch you like that unless you are a top, top guy. Other than that, you know, that's why somebody like Jokic and all them
wouldn't get that same, you know, status.
So that accounts too.
Somebody like Booker gets hurt.
So, Alexi, without compromising any current or future backs,
who is the gold standard of owners in the WNBA?
Vegas.
Mark Davis?
Like, it's not even close. New York is pretty close. Okay.
But yeah, Mark Davis has like embarrassed the entire league pretty much. Okay, so everybody
else is leaning to get their weight up. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yeah. And again, not trying
to jeopardize no bags, but facts are facts. So speaking of the Mavs, Luca and Kyrie experiment
looking much better this season than it did last year.
Head coach Jason Kidd is feeling some type of way about it.
Kidd had smoke for ESPN reporter Tim McMahon after the Mavs win over the Rockets with Luka dropping 41-9-9 and Kyrie putting up 27-5 dimes.
McMahon, like a lot of people, was critical of the Luka and Kyrie duo last season, but K Kid wants to know where is the love now?
Big deal about last year,
but you're not making a big deal about it this year because shit's going good, right?
So write some positive shit.
Just ask you a question.
And I'm giving you a fucking answer.
Like, you guys, you know,
there's all right to write positive stuff.
People will read your positive shit.
You don't always have to be negative, right?
Like, it's just the world's already negative enough, right?
So let's see some positive stuff
on some positive people that are playing,
doing their job on a nightly basis.
Making it a lot easier to do that this year.
Well, we're only into this year.
I can't go back to last year, right? Like that's the fucking problem Yeah, he was smoking because he wanted to smoke. He kept that shit hostile. Yeah. He got it.
There you go, J.K.
Yeah.
Tough.
He's right, though.
So what are y'all thoughts on J.K. calling out the negativity?
Perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Write some positive shit.
There's good shit going on.
Y'all ain't got nothing to say.
That's so odd.
Because he's right.
I haven't seen anything positive written about how Kyrie and Luke are playing right now. And they're
both playing really well.
We've seen it on Gil's Arena presented by a hundred dog fantasy. Woof woof.
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No, but it's, you know, people want their narratives, right? You know, it's like we go into sports hoping everyone fails.
So we can say, I told you so, right?
And that's, you know, like, if I'm Kyrie, it's like, yeah, where's,
remember I said it, where was the apology for Kyrie
when he didn't want to take the vaccine and everybody in New York is suing now. There was no apology for him like you know what I mean?
Right you know like like when you're wrong just say yeah yeah I was wrong my
bad my bad brother you know you it's easy to do that you know but when you
keep this stance players look at you like no now I can't rock with you. You know, so.
If I'm Kyrie name, it's like, eh.
Talk to Coach.
Talk to Coach.
He's, you know.
Yeah, because Kyrie's not like an asshole.
He's not rude.
He's just, he is who he is.
And people tried to villainize him so bad.
And it all came around full circle.
And all the reporters, all the media look real dumb how they
treated Kyrie and now y'all don't have any like the least y'all can do is talk about how he's
playing how he's playing well and y'all don't have anything to say so good for Jason Kifford
standing up for his players because they deserve that yeah what do you think about the situation
yeah they need their respect man um man I got a chance to kick it with Kyrie after their game, too, man.
Just such a good, humble person.
Man, just so in tune with the game and what's going on in life.
So, you know, just want to give him missed flowers for, you know,
keeping his head straight and still going and, you know, getting past all this.
So, you know, I'm sure the basketball gods are going to, you know, keep rewarding him.
People don't know, in the summer, he trains girls basketball at Mamba Academy.
Kyrie?
Yeah.
He does girls basketball camps.
Teaching girls how to dribble, keeping their base lows, because my daughter goes for them.
I know I personally got caught up in what people were saying about him as being problematic,
not a good person, doesn't have a good heart.
I mean, I personally, my opinion of Kyrie changed a little bit.
So I don't know if Kyrie watches this,
but I'm going to apologize to Kyrie right here, right now,
because they were wrong.
You can't be mad at someone for standing in their beliefs and not letting money or narratives change that.
So, I mean, I think Kyrie's a great dude.
And, yeah, he works with girls.
He loves and supports women's basketball.
And, like, that's important.
Yeah, we got to get him in the arena.
Yeah.
I don't think Kyrie.
For sure.
So back on the subject of kid, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison,
but I know y'all remember Deion Sanders was talking big shit
after Colorado started hot, you know,
and proceeded to get clowned after they reeled off loss after loss your kid have waited a little longer before calling out the media or is now
the perfect time
No, I mean that's two different scenarios
With Dion
Four games you won one the year before that. Four games. He won.
It's easy to say, oh, yeah, look at him now.
Yeah, look at him now.
He was tuned in to Colorado football.
He's four.
Colorado's one of the hottest teams in sports now.
The floodgates are going to open.
He's going to continue to do great.
Right now, his grade is an A. You
can't say he's failed. It's an A. It's an A. With Jason Kidd, he has his team full season.
Last year, you're bashing somebody for making an end-season trade, which has never worked
for any team
besides Detroit Pistons.
Other than that, it's hard to win after you make
big trades, big players in the middle of the season.
So they struggled, of course,
just like any team did and every team did
before that.
Now
they got
their footing under them
and talking shit.
Speaking of the Pistons, we got Rasheed Wallace pulling up to the arena next week.
Just want to let y'all know that.
It's going to be an exciting, action-packed week.
We got the Sheed coming in?
Yes, sir.
Sheed is coming in.
Sheed!
So kind of a broader question now,
and obviously all you guys have a unique perspective in the situation.
What kind of narrative did you see the media trying to create
when you're playing now and when you guys played?
I think they're intentionally looking for negative stuff.
I think they're just trying to bait you.
Because like Jason said, writing about the positive, you know,
probably doesn't hit like it does with the negative stuff.
So I think, you know, and just in general,
I think people are just after you.
They're always trying to find a way to tear you down.
So when you're playing well,
it's like it kind of gets overlooked,
but when you're doing bad, they can't wait.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's true for all facets of life.
People love toxicity.
They love negative shit.
They love, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's weird.
They don't care about positive.
You do some charitable, positive, whatever shit, and we don't care like but you get caught up
I think it depends on who it is to yeah, like people have you know, they're in their perception on people
So I think it just depends on who it is who's winning and who's losing. Yeah, that's it's you know, like
If you're winning and you have, let's say,
this locker room personality, you're a winner.
You're a winner.
If you're winning with that type of attitude, you're a winner.
If your team ain't successful, you're a bad locker room guy.
Think about it.
Somebody like Jimmy Butler or Draymond Green,
if they was on losing teams,
those are considered bad locker room guys. But when it turns into, if they're winning and their team is winning, they're great leaders. They're great this, they're great that. Because
there's more losers on a team than winners, mentalities. So if there's one winner mentality on your team and there's 15 losers, you're the one
that's out.
I remember at the end of Kobe's era in the Lakers, the Lakers players didn't like him
because he's demanding winning.
So they want him out. You know, Jimmy Butler in the end of Chicago, go to Minnesota, bad locker room guy.
You paint the narrative because you don't want to find more players like him.
And that becomes a narrative.
So you got these guys talking about, oh, he's a bad locker room guy because I demand excellence. I'm the bad locker room guy working out three times a
day, shooting 500 shots. I'm the bad locker room guy. Not the dude that's sitting at the
bar all day, sitting at the strip club all day. That's not the bad locker room guy. I
bet. Bet.
I mean, you also feel like the media can be a little vindictive, too,
if you don't give them what they want.
Like, if you don't give them...
It's something like, you got to play the game.
And a lot of guys don't want to do that.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's getting worse.
You know what I mean?
Talking to the media, like,
they're shooting themselves in the foot,
and now it's who can report first
and not who can report correctly.
So now a lot of media members are, like,
jumping the gun on, like, information. now a lot of media members are jumping the gun on information,
and a lot of it is wrong.
I saw someone on, I don't know what show it was on ESPN,
but they took a tweet from one of those fake pages
that have the real name but have an accent over it or something.
But everybody got the blue checks now,
so people don't do their due diligence.
You're reporting on a completely fake tweet, mad about something because you wanted to
report it first.
And I think we see that way too much.
I forget what it was, but literally the account was like, yo, I just made this shit
up in this way.
I just made to see how people are going to respond.
Yeah, and I've gotten sent some tweets and I'm like, do you see the handle?
Read the handle.
It's fake, but the blue check.
A lot of people get caught up in that, right?
Even with responses and stuff like that.
They're responding to someone's fake handle, but it looks like the real person.
Dangerous. They're creating beef.
Dangerous.
Shout out Ballsack Sports.
Ballsack Sports.
I'm pretty sure that was the page.
There's Ballsack, there's Butt the page. Yeah. There's ball sack.
There's butt crack.
Yeah.
NBA Central.
I mean, you really got to double check.
Where did that one come from?
Because that one is treacherous.
Yeah, very, very, very reckless in how they move.
But also, you have to adjust.
That's why when I see shit now, I'm just like,
I don't trust none of it.
I don't trust anything.
I got to hear it.
But even from a team dynamic, you
got to talk about narratives and stuff.
Like some players don't want to talk to me.
Did you ever feel like you had players on the team that were a little too comfortable with the media
and were giving a little too much information?
No, no, you always got a snitch in the locker room.
That's for sure.
Like, you know, that's for sure.
Could you identify who it was?
I mean, process of elimination?
You always know.
It's never like the first option is always like that dude
That's true. He wants to be the man, right? So he's trying to take down the man, you know
He's trying to take down a man
So he need his reporter to go ahead throw them little jabs in and fuck him up a little bit, right?
But that's a thing. That's a real thing, right?
Usually the stars of the team have their own reporter.
That ends up happening.
We see it every day.
So if you genuinely write a bad article about me,
and you do it multiple times,
I don't really fuck with you like that.
Especially if it's just unjust.
You're just going out your way, trying to create division.
Or you're trying to create division inside locker rooms, inside teams.
Like, you know, like, even with titles, like, it's Luka and Kyrie, who's the best player on the team?
The fuck do you care for?
Like, let us play.
Like, you know, because human nature makes us really think about who is, who's going to take the last shot.
Now we're sitting there looking at each other like, who's going to take the last shot now. We sit there looking at each other like
Who's gonna take the last shot? You know I mean, so, you know media media outside people that has nothing to do with a locker room
Sit there and try to dictate the pecking order. That's already been established
And then how do you you all feel about when you have coaches you talk about players certain players using the media to push narratives, but coaches using the media to do that,
especially when it's directed towards yourself?
Listen.
You about to get a knee break?
I'm gonna tell you this.
I was the number one option.
Right.
So the coach couldn't do none of that shit.
He can try, but I'll get you fired man. Shut up
Okay, you know
Not but you know
Coaches coaches would do that when they want when you when they know you're on the out, right?
It's always it's always out, huh? Well, they don't know they're not out or you're not out
It's always when you leave a situation, right, this is just period.
Not talking to anyone who used to be here.
When you was here, it was fine.
When you leave, oh, you tell everybody about the problems.
That's what happens with players.
When I need you and you helping me win, oh, he's the best player ever.
And then when he leaves, oh, he was such a headache.
He was a problem.
He didn't want to do this.
He didn't want to do that.
Like, hmm.
Yeah, coaches do that a lot.
Brandon, you ever have any situations like that?
Getting traded?
No, I'm saying coaches hating or dry snitching going on.
No, not really.
I mean, me and Scouse was cool.
Stan Van was cool.
Nothing really.
Let's hear about yourself.
Yes.
We don't need to dive into it because, as always, we respect your back.
I mean, my Minnesota situation just ended kind of odd.
Nothing was said to media members, but things were being said. So there
was just a narrative that I had to kind of work myself out of. I still don't know exactly
where it came from. I have my ideas. My agent at the time was telling me things that were
being said, things that people were saying about me as far as being a teammate and my
personality and stuff like that. So I've risen above that, but that was know my personality and stuff like that so i've risen above that but i mean that
was after my second and third season and i was just kind of like dang i deal with that a lot on
the entertainment side so the way the entertainment side works like gil if i have a problem with you
i won't come to you i'll go to my manager who will go to the powers that be who will go to your
manager who will come to you meanwhile we're sitting right here next to each other on this
couch then you got to go back to them
before it's back.
Yeah.
Gil said he didn't do it
and then Josiah said he didn't,
but...
Yo, actually, no.
You know what?
No, I do got a story.
I do got a story.
So it was overseas, right?
So my first coach overseas got fired.
So then we had an assistant coach
he took over, right?
And so the assistant coach
didn't like me at all just because, you know, I was young going to the NBA next year, right?
So I go to the draft
You know this when the Knicks had the seventh pick and
Who's there Dan Tony? All right, so Dan Tony's there and so Dan Tony end up
My coach was Dan Tony's teammate right back in the day playing right So he tells Dan Tony, and I'm killing the Knicks workout.
I'm telling you, I'm destroying it.
I'm like, yo, this is the one.
Like, I'm going to the Knicks.
So killing the workout, boom, boom.
Dan Tony called him.
He was like, yo, how was Brandon?
He was like, didn't like him.
You know what I'm saying?
Cocky California kid, like, you know, boom, boom.
So Knicks don't take me because of him.
Damn.
So that's how, and then I scored 55.
Then I heard like D'Antoni ended up calling the dude back
and was like, you motherfucker.
Like, you don't want me not to pick this.
So it was like stuff like that.
I don't, I try not to, you know,
I try not to judge somebody off of what I hear.
The reason is his attitude towards you is the environment you created for him.
Right? Right? That's the environment. Whatever environment you had, that's the response you got.
I don't plan on having that environment here. So I'm not expecting that type of person.
So I can't take for what, if somebody said,
oh he's bad attitude, he's bad this, that,
cool, that might have been in your environment.
What the fuck that got to do with me?
I have a whole different vibe over here,
so we'll see what his vibe is when he gets here.
And so when people ask me,
yo, I take the people that I can vibe with.
From there, it's up to them.
If they fuck it off, they fuck it off. Not my problem.
Yeah.
And I didn't even do nothing.
I was just working out the whole time.
I wouldn't even play overseas.
But it was that whole thing
of me leaving
because, you know, I was out.
I was already gone, so.
Well, let's keep this thing moving.
We got to touch back
on the Josh Giddey situation.
So we talked about it on Monday.
Today, TMZ is reporting
that the minor that Giddey
is allegedly involved with and her family
are refusing to cooperate with a police investigation.
So Thunder head coach Mark Dagnall was asked again
about the investigation on Tuesday, offered no comment.
Giddey did play in the Thunder's end-season tournament game
against the Timberwolves on Tuesday night.
Lexi, we got you here, first time this week.
So what are your thoughts on this whole situation?
I feel like, I mean, it's a very sensitive topic.
We don't really know much.
We've just seen pictures, pretty much.
Completely out of context pictures.
You know, obviously, as a woman, I'm going to believe.
I mean, there's no, she hasn't said anything like he did something inappropriate to me, whatever the issue is,
how old is this girl?
We still don't know the answer to that.
So above all, is a law being broken if she is underage? Yes, the law has been broken.
Whether he knew or not, whether she lied or not, the law is broken.
So I just think the way the Thunder and the league are handling this is very wrong. I do not think he should be playing
right now. If we're talking, we go back to the conversation we have about conduct detrimental
to the team. How is this not conduct detrimental to the team? You have an open investigation
on a teammate for something super serious like this and you're allowing him to practice and play.
I'm not saying he's guilty or not guilty,
but from what we've seen other players get in trouble for,
miss games for, lose money from,
this is way more serious than anything that we've seen as of late.
So I'm just extremely disappointed at how it's being handled.
Again, not saying he did
something wrong, she's underage,
we don't know any of that,
but until those facts are
unveiled, he should not be
on the court.
Hey, what's his nickname?
No, no.
No, no.
What does that
have to do with anything?
Because his new name is Josh.
Giggity, giggity, quagmire, giddy.
That is the new name.
That is little quagmire.
Stop it, Gil.
Boy, shit.
I just, as a woman that actively supports the NBA
and maybe potentially even wants to work in the NBA,
like, it's just been very disappointing to see
how they've handled situations with violence
and abuse towards women and stuff like that.
Well, okay, so, further research,
this has been going on for a year.
So this is not, like like something that just happened.
So the league and the team has known about it for at least a year, which means he probably
reported it then.
So most likely it looks like it was probably a setup and he just got caught.
So that means a friend helped that girl do this.
Now, they're not responding, which means... She's underage.
It's been a year, so obviously this person got paid off,
so for it to come out means it was a friend of his that put it out.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like, who is doing, like, who released all of this? This is a year old, that put it out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, who is doing...
Like, who released all of this?
This is a year old.
So this is a year old.
So that means the Thunder's already known about it.
The NBA's known about it.
So it probably started off as a blackmail case.
And however it got handled, it got handled.
And whoever knew about it
decided that they were going to leak it.
And they're the ones who wrote that title.
Right? I think that's what caught
everybody off guard, right?
Oh, the selfie of them.
Is that real?
I don't even know if they proved that's real.
Yeah, exactly. We live in this world with all this
misinformation.
So whether this all ends up being
her being of age, whatever,
his reputation is going to struggle.
Yeah, it already messes up, but, like,
penalizing him now without
any facts, that's a lawsuit
against the team and NBA.
Because if you just, if you're just allowed
to just, someone is allowed to just say,
this happened to me, and then you
suspend him without any due justice.
What if they don't suspend him? What if they just are like,
can you just not be around
at night? Just stay home.
Just keep your...
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, we're...
Because, okay.
It's a year.
When you compare this to, like, the Jha situation,
which is also everything that was caught on camera.
So, the Jha had multiple situations,
was able to play through all those while the investigation was going.
But he didn't hurt anybody.
He didn't do anything illegal.
But we can see it physically.
That was the thing.
We see you have it.
With this, it's a picture, and they're saying he did it, right?
Which we don't know.
But what did Ja do?
Legally, he didn't do nothing.
Right, so...
But we don't know.
That's what I'm saying. We don't know
law-wise. My issue is just the
inconsistency of
addressing behavior
of these players. If we take off the title,
if we take off that title that someone put,
what... Right. Exactly.
If it's just a regular title with him and the girl,
did they have sex? We don't know.
We don't know anything. Right, so... No, I get that.
That's the only... It's the only legal part about it.
But I just feel like
once a criminal police investigation
is opened on somebody,
you should probably have them not be around.
Yeah, but, I mean,
it works both ways, though, right?
Because like Gil said,
if somebody just randomly said
somebody did X, Y, or Z...
Yeah.
They got to, you know...
There's a potential now
for a lawsuit or some other situations if it gets proven to be wrong. Again, we don't know what's cracking with the situation. Again, we, or Z. Yeah. They got to, you know, there's a potential now for a lawsuit or some other situations
if it gets proven wrong.
Again, we don't know
what's cracking
with the situation.
Again, we will monitor it.
Yeah.
Monitor it,
I can tell you
what's going to happen.
Nothing?
Yeah, nothing.
Yeah, if they don't
press charges or anything.
That's what I'm saying.
It's a year.
Think about, like,
this is not this year.
Right.
This is, I mean,
this is last year,
2022, right? Which means this year. Right. This is, I mean, this is last year, 2022.
Right?
Which means if he's already paid,
they can't say nothing anyway,
so there's not going to be... I mean, you're assuming that that's
happened. That could not be the case.
I don't know.
If you, me and you been going, talking
for a year,
I done already paid you off
to be quiet.
If I already know I did something wrong,
even if you tricked me.
Allegedly.
Unless they know.
If you already set me up and I'm guilty,
even if it's a setup, like he met her at a club
and she lied, she had a fake ID, right?
No matter what that is, I'm done for.
No matter what, right?
I'm done.
There's nothing I can do.
You caught my hand in the cookie jar.
I fucked up.
Yeah.
Now, what do you want?
You want money?
All right.
Right?
Even though it was, I didn't know, it still makes me guilty.
Still, right.
Here you go.
There's nothing I can do about it at that point.
So, if I already paid you off and then now it comes out, you have no reason.
You can't say anything.
You have no reason to talk because you got what you really wanted inside.
Right.
So, like I said, we will continue to monitor the situation and provide updates as they happen.
But now let's get back to some actual on-the-court basketball talk.
Draymond Green made his return Tuesday night from his five-game suspension
for the Warriors' final in-season tournament game against the Kings.
Dubs needed a huge win for any chance to advance to the lead eight
and proceeded to trick off a 24-point lead.
So we got some highlights from this game.
They were up 24 points in the first half.
I think 14 going into the fourth or somewhere around that late in the third.
And it was trickville.
So Kings mounted a a fourth quarter comeback,
was highlighted by great offense and a slew of Warriors miscues
and questionable decisions.
De'Aaron Fox and Malik Monk came up big in crunch time.
I think De'Aaron Fox had 29, Malik Monk had 21.
Herter was out there doing it too.
Just shit like that going on.
We've seen stuff like that before, though.
But Malik Monk came through crunch time under 10 seconds to go.
That's tough.
That's crazy.
That's tough.
Sometimes better be lucky than good.
And then on the final play, 7.4 seconds remaining,
Steph Curry brings it up.
We see Clay over there chilling.
Steph kind of throws up.
What I would say is a questionable shot, but it's Steph Curry.
Pass it?
Pass it?
We're going to talk about that in a second,
but the Warriors' blown 24-point lead is tied for the second-largest
blown lead with the big three all playing, including the playoffs.
Damn.
So Warriors went from night-night to nightmares,
and it looks like the San Francisco treat is turning into the San Francisco defeat.
But do teams fear the –
It's all the rules.
No, keep it going.
Because the chat's going to hate.
There's somebody in the chat going, hey, not appreciate.
What is that, alliteration?
What is that word?
Situations.
Do teams fear the Warriors anymore?
And how do you compare this year's Warrior squad to previous non-KD Warrior squads during this dynasty?
You are resident 30 expert, all things tough crowd.
Man, that's the worst I've seen, the Golden State Warriors.
That's the worst.
This is pretty bad.
This is like, I don't know if it's coming to an end.
I don't know if Bob Myers has seen it coming.
Is that why he probably stepped down because he's seen this coming?
So I don't know, but something gonna have to change though and that makes you wonder again bob said fuck this
i'm going to the yeah i think you know studio you think maybe he was trying to like make changes and
they was just like nah i think he just seen it coming well and he's right y'all don't want to
change so i'm gonna i'm gonna be out before y'all blame me for this i think he probably realized
and not to speak for bob or think for Bobby's UCLA guy. Shout out to the legend
Looking at what was ahead?
It's gonna be some tough times and tough toys
They're gonna need to be made
Elephants kind of been in the room for a while now with this squad clay and in the last year's deal current and last year
his deal
This young core and all these moves that they made not really panning out as you try to prioritize the vest Draymond being in pool you know it's like yeah
you know I think before range and holler yeah exactly you know I've been I had to
go back and look at the Golden State Warriors pre pre-KD, right? Even 2021 championship.
The scoring, their scoring ain't that off
from the top five players in scoring, right?
Right now they're shooting about 72.8%,
72 from their main five guys.
72.
They're getting 72 out of them.
72% of the shots you're saying?
Yeah, no, 72. Oh, points, okay. You. 72% of the shots you said?
No, 72 points.
Oh, points, okay.
You know, the championship year is 77, right?
What is different is this.
Besides the KD years, without KD, the years they won the championship,
they were rated number one in defense.
They had a deep, you know, so it was their defense that actually was the focal point of why they were good.
So 2015, they were ranked number one.
2021, they were ranked number one.
This year, they're ranked 17.
So they're not stopping anybody.
Right?
You know, we can look at, oh, Klay's playing bad.
They're not stopping anybody.
Right?
They're ranked 17 in two years that they won a championship without KD.
Because the KD years, they didn't need
defense.
Because they wasn't
ranked one when KD was
on the team. They were
second or third at best and then
11 those two years.
The two years without KD, they were
ranked number one in defense. That was
the staple of it.
We've talked about this throughout this season two of Gills Arena
presented by Underdog Fantasy, whoop, whoop.
There used to be a fear when you played these Warriors.
If you were up 20, you literally had to keep pushing on them
because they could make that lead evaporate in no time.
Seen the Thunder, smack them. Seen the Thunder smack them, seen the Wolves smack them.
These young guys aren't scared of them anymore, even the Kings last night.
These young crews aren't really afraid of these dudes anymore.
And it's wild for me to see because, like you pointed out, they still have with that
big three core, but now it seems like those rotational pieces or surrounding pieces aren't
what they used to be.
Losing guys like Iggy,
you know what I mean? Like just...
The personnel isn't there. It's the personnel. I think the personnel's lost and I mean they're
getting older. These guys that they were playing against early in their careers are, you know,
three, four, five years now. It's like, you know, they're getting more mature and they
understand what's at stake. So, I mean, especially when they're playing like this,
it's like, what's to be scared of?
Like, they're not making them shots like they used to.
And guys are just going right by them.
Yeah.
Just going right by them.
So this summer, we were blessed to have Steph
pull up to the arena on location.
Told us he thought he was the best PGA.
You know, we travel.
We travel. We travel.
We move.
We move.
We'll come to y'all, okay, under the right circumstances.
But Steph told us that he thought he was the best PGA of all time, him and Magic.
He's been balling.
Let's just note that first.
But he also has 65 assists this season, 60 turnovers.
Shit.
So averaging nearly 3.8 turnovers per game, tied for a career high.
4.1 assists per game, our career low.
Literally the worst assist to turnover ratio in his career.
So what factors do we feel like are playing into Steph Curry's unusual turnovers this season?
Just older, just smart personnel.
When he's playing, if you looked at him back then, just older, just smart personnel, right?
When he's playing, if you looked at him back then,
he was careless with the ball when he passed it because most of his passes, he's passing it to run off
and get it back, you know what I mean?
So he's not sitting here making a pass like this.
He's throwing it to fake and come back.
So some of those passes, by now, people are reading.
People are understanding.
Great defenses are realizing,
or just natural defense are realizing like some of his passing um you know antics right um just all of them right you know they're not really they're not really sharp with what
they're doing you know like we all know don't give up on the back door like you know one of
the plays at the end you you know, Draymond is
Going the back door. He pulls back right? So, you know little things just that they were naturally doing they're just there's just miscommunication now
And you feel like you feel like Steph is on the ball too much this season compared to years past. I
Think so. I think losing Jordan pool hurt. You got to do too much
That's why the balls in his hands too much and he gets a little careless. So I think just losing Jordan Poole
was like, hurts him a lot. Because it took a lot of pressure off them. Like you said,
that's 20 points a night. Like you're not getting that.
But it's interesting though because they brought Chris Paul in so we all thought
that he was going to be off the ball a little more, and it actually turned out to be the opposite.
Well, it's hard to play them both together.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not a fan of this fit at all, that, you know, when they brought Chris Paul
in.
I mean, I was optimistic because he's a professional, and obviously he knew what he signed up up for what he was trying to do when he got to go to state
But like it's just not really working
Yeah, I think Jordan Poole left a bigger hole than they were expecting
Yeah, and just as a no CP 3 and and Gary Payton the second were both
Injured last night did not play in the game
Those steps workload increased. Yeah, this is him. You know, there's one
It's just right now. It's just him
playing by himself
right, you know all the decisions he's making is it seems like you know one of those times where
You know
When LeBron has to do more than he's trying to do
he's just at that period in in the season where? He has to run his engine a little hotter than he probably wants to and say everybody catches up
All right, we all been in games where it's like are you motherfuckers ain't coming with me?
I'm fucking I'll do this shit by myself. We all done did that
All right, I've done a lot right? I don't know if they let you do that
Right when you play like are you mother's ain't coming play? I bet don't ask for the ball I'll that. Like when you play, like, all right, you motherfuckers ain't coming to play? All right, bet.
Don't answer the ball.
I'll do this shit, but I'll get all the rebounds
from up inside you.
Yeah, because you're like, you're trying to motivate,
and that motivation comes out like as a real selfish play,
but it's like, if you're not gonna help,
get the fuck out of my way.
I'll do it until you guys are ready to play basketball.
Right, and that's where he's at right now.
Like, he's in that mode where I'ma keep doing it until y'all wake the fuck up. And that's where he's at right now. Like, he's in that mode where I'm going to keep doing it
until y'all wake the fuck up.
And that's what he's going to have to do.
And then at some point,
we all know Clay going to wake up
and find his rhythm,
and then we're going to be like,
oh, shit.
And then same thing with Wiggins.
When they find their rhythm, right,
and it's going to be scary.
Just right now,
it's easy to throw darts at him
because it's only 30 out there.
Yeah.
Mike, don't leave. You got a lot of work to do this summer.
Take it that much.
He's going to have to get ruthless.
He's going to have to make some...
He's going to have to get ruthless,
and he's going to have to make a big trade
to max out Steph for the next three years
if he wants to keep him.
So he's going to have to do...
He's going to have to have the big balls
and go in there and just...
So 30-only one is safe on this roster, do we feel like, at this point?
Yeah.
Already?
Yeah.
But even with that, though, he's the only one that really got value, too.
I mean, if you get rid of Dre and you get rid of Klay and all these guys, it's like, yeah,
but Steph's the only one that really got value where you can get something back.
Well, no
value is Someone who has value is probably cominga
the reason is
His potential is still high. Mm-hmm. His play is low enough to get him for cheap
Right is he's really cheap enough to be like, all right
I'll take a job take a chance on him. Right?
Because he's not making big money.
And then if he ends up averaging 20, 18 a game, I've got him stolen.
Right?
So he's probably that piece where if you're looking for a trade, if you want my guy, I'm going to always, I'm going to ask for Kaminga.
Okay.
Because he's on a verge of being you know Harrison Barnes
or he's on a verge
of probably giving me 20 a game.
So he's Harrison Barnes, Wiggins
he's in that range
so if I can get him for cheap right now
I'll make a trade hoping he's in it.
So we're going to have another
young player with some value. That's Moses Moody.
Moody, Moody, Moody, Moody, Moody.
One of the more questionable decisions in the game
came when Steve Kerr decided to sub out Moody
with 426 left in the fourth quarter.
Scored all of his 11 points in the fourth quarter.
Just hit back-to-back threes.
Then Kerr brought in Wiggins for him instead of Clay.
Do you roll with the vet in that situation
or the young player with the hot
hand you know that that whole sequence was a bunch of bad decisions where you took i think you took
steph out in at the end of the third or should third like three minutes left put him back in
with one minute left and then play them all the way in the fourth quarter to like the six minute mark then you sub them out right they're up three right uh clay when
clay went out in the at the beginning of the fourth they were up nine from there you're just
messing up the rhythm um you put curry back in with three minutes left, right? So you was already, like, disturbing what was going on.
It's all situational.
It's easy to say, yeah, go with him because he's hit two threes,
but you're going to always go with your vet.
You're going to go with your gut, and your gut says vet.
I mean, Moody hasn't missed a shot, though, in the last two games.
Hasn't missed a shot?
I missed a shot.
It was four for four in that game, three for three, I think, from the three-point line.
I'm just, you know, I'm in the boy's sword, man.
If you put him in a game and he missed two big shots.
It's like, why you have the young one in?
Why you got the young guy in, you know what I mean?
So it's right there, you're just playing off of gut, and you're going to go with your veteran.
Because if you leave your veteran in, if your veteran takes shots that he normally takes, you can live with
it. It's one of those, you got to live with the decisions you made.
I mean, the bigger issue is that they blew a 24-point lead. So if we're going to try
and blame Kerr for his decision making the last three minutes, then we're like missing
the big picture of the fact that they blew a 24
point lead and you are a veteran team
with multiple championships like
that shouldn't happen.
I mean you have their step career too.
Sportsman like conduct.
You better stop. You better stop
worrying. You deserve it.
So let's talk about Klay a little bit. It's no secret
he's been struggling this season.
During a recent interview he got spicy at the notion of coming off the bench what do
you want me to bench me no no it's like that's wigs I don't think I said that
okay I mean you could suggest it's fine but I'm here bro thanks Steve I guess
like I don't know sometimes you earn these things like patience and time to find yourself
I
Think history will uh is on our side when it comes to that stuff
You say that do you have you heard people say that or no? I don't care what people say
Like they don't do what we do
They can't do what they do. That why they talk why would i like come on
next question he's like now for somebody saying you don't care what people say
that's just giving i care a lot. He's looking like he's mother.
Yeah, you motherfucker.
Boy.
You lucky I got there.
You lucky I'm a four time champ.
Where's Draymond?
They can't do what we do.
Yeah.
That's the nice version.
He gave you the nice.
Where's Gorilla Glo?
Where's Gorilla Glo? That's Draymond's new nickname for Gills Arena. He gave you the nice words gorilla glue
That's very my new nickname forgive gills arena, but I mean just hear it here clay talk like that again This is well, I'm having the worst thing like people normal LeBron guy
I've literally hated this warrior squad for years, but seeing it happen like this
as a fan of basketball and just you know good teams like it's like shit man being on the side of media and we
see it yeah we're gonna throw your jabs we you know that's that's what we do yeah um as a player
he's right you know you know i earned i earned this this rope to try to find my rhythm. I'm a fucking four-time champion.
This is what I do.
I'm not playing very well right now, but you're going to sub me.
I'm surprised he didn't say, for who?
Who are y'all subbing me for?
Who is coming off the bench that's going to replace fucking me?
But that's throwing a shot at your teammates.
But at the end of the day, it's right.
Who are you going to sub me for? Who at your teammates. But at the end of the day, it's right. Who you gonna sub him in for?
Who the fuck...
What was even the question?
Nothing. He just suggested it.
It's basically talking about patience and, you know...
Yeah, I'm just like, the...
Comments like that are just wildly disrespectful
to a player like that.
Like...
Like...
Two potentially career-ending injuries
for a lot of players that he's recovered from,
comes back, wins a championship, and you're asking him questions like,
oh, are you happy that your coach is being patient?
Like, what?
Like, why would you even ask that?
Like, he's a little older.
Get that response.
Yeah, I mean, everything is for a response.
And he fell right into that trap.
And usually he's pretty good at not falling
into that trap but i mean they got him with that with that statement but i just feel like media
members are just they they cross lines sometimes isn't that's the that's the problem it's like why
would you ask or even suggest coming off the bench because he didn't suggest it but he did yeah yeah
but he's not above coming off the bench but
people were saying like well Steph came off the bench but like they were coming
back from injuries like they weren't coming back from poor shooting
performances so that was more symbolic like like we knew Steph wasn't gonna
like he's not gonna be an edgeman like no you start looking around gotta look at the line out who's on our
team like is there somebody on our team that I don't know about?
So let's go back to that final play of the game.
Warriors down one.
I can't see the time. Time is important.
7.4 seconds to go.
No, no, I don't know what this is.
Y'all gotta show us more than this.
We've just seen it full screen. Okay, there we go.
Right here. Here we go. Okay, there we go right here. Oh, here we go
Alright passing out now
Yeah, pause it pause it rewind it back. Let's see. Yeah, I'm home. Oh man. Come here. We got to get the clay closer
I don't want to play time. But look at the I want to I'm gonna fuck how you got his hand
I want time is the most important part. Get ready to slow down Not cry stop now. Yep. No, that's not a passion. That's not a passion. He's looking down. Not yet
Not yet. Now you can pass
Yeah, you know what I'm not worried about clay shot I'm I'm worried about how long the pass is. Yeah, the long... Clay is...
That could have been the pass because it's Clay,
because Clay shoots fast enough.
Right.
That's a risky pass.
Rewind a little bit more.
Just a little bit, like, probably at that two-second mark.
Because by the time he got it, it would be one second.
Now, the fact that Clay still got his hands up is just fucking...
Right now.
Right there.
Yeah, but he got his head down.
Yeah, he got his head down.
One more little bit, little frame.
Forward, yeah.
Forward, forward, forward.
Back and to the left.
Forward and to the right.
Okay, when he put his head up, right there.
Two seconds.
That's not it.
If he tries to make that, that's a hard, it's not enough time.
Wait, can we go back to the beginning?
I'm watching Draymond now.
Because I feel like Draymond just created a crowd around Steph.
Yep.
Like Draymond, like, okay, so this was a good pick.
That was a good pick.
One.
Now, get out.
He should have rolled.
Get out, yeah, now get out.
Now, Wiggins is in a bad position because...
Wiggins should have got all the way to the corner.
And Draymond should have stayed at half court or rolled all the way down.
Hey, Draymond, think about that three.
Man, listen.
Like, where is Draymond going?
At this point.
He broke the three.
Draymond should have set that screen and got out of there.
Wiggins should be down, but that's all in hindsight.
Yeah, like.
That's a hard ass pass to make.
Yeah.
Like, you know, rewind a little bit back.
Now watching this, this is what I would have told Draymond.
Right.
Come on, come on, come on.
He did lose the ball.
Right now, I would tell Draymond, come set another screen.
Up there?
Yeah.
Like, come set another screen.
I would have Draymond come to the ball.
And not stay.
Right now, yeah, just not stay in there.
Because now Steph got to come to him.
Great thing is they didn't even need a three.
They didn't need a three, no.
They got one.
Damn, you're right. Like, now keep, now if I to come to him. Great thing is they didn't even need a three. They didn't need a three, no. Damn, you're right.
Like now keep, now I played a little bit.
Like see if Draymond's coming to him,
coming to him, coming to him, coming to him,
he can get to the three-point line.
Look, now he's where Draymond's setting the screen.
He has to take a shot behind that part of the three.
Yeah, that's a hard shot.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, he lost the ball.
I feel like maybe if he didn't lose the ball,
maybe he would have been called.
And he could have, Pumphrey got a foul too. But. Well, yeah, he lost the ball. I feel like maybe if he didn't lose the ball, maybe he would have been called. And he could have pump fake out a foul, too.
But those are the things you watch.
And he almost made it.
Yeah, those are the things you watch after, you know, and shoot around.
Or not shoot around the next day.
They'll probably be watching that now, trying to see what they would have did better.
So, you know, it's second nature during the next game.
Yeah.
Important thing to note, Steve Steve Kurt lost a challenge earlier
They're basically cost them a timeout. They could have used to advance the ball in that situation. I
Mean down one like that. I'm
Just I only should I only shoot two three. I only shoot two three if it's tagging or down one
I want the referee to make a decision to go get a? To get the foul or give me the layup.
Yeah.
Right?
Because at that point, a player's not naturally trying to give you the layup or foul, right?
He's in this in-between space.
So the more aggressive you get, you can get that foul for the most part.
So you'll see at times like this, down one, I'm getting to the free,
I'm getting fouled.
But he wasn't moving fast enough.
Steph, he's not moving fast enough. I'd have
probably threw it up the wing. No, I wouldn't have.
As a coach,
throw it up the wing to make Wiggins drive,
but as a player, I'm not giving a fucking shit.
I'm going to try to use my speed.
Like if that was the other way around and it was Fox Fox is getting later to the
Yes
For sure. Yes
That or you know Steph coming off pump fake knowing how fast the guy's moving and he got three free throws
But that's what you see after the game in real time is different game. Yeah
Like they say hindsight
2020 but so not that big of a deal as it looked like watching it live.
I mean, they're down one, though, so they should have got a layup for sure.
They should have got a layup.
Like with that pick from Draymond.
Draymond rolled.
They got a chance to get a layup or something.
Yeah, yeah, because when Draymond rolls.
What are you roaming there for?
If he rolls and he gets it, somebody has to come.
So once that collapse, right, you got.
Now you got Clay
by himself at the three
because this man got help.
Clay was wide open.
If this man doesn't help,
then you have Wiggins' guy
that has to do that bottom help.
Wasn't as bad.
Coach Gill.
Again,
don't blow a 24-4 lead.
Yeah, that too.
That's the easiest way, I think, to avoid this situation.
The Warriors are cooked.
Damn.
We're going to talk about that in a second.
Mike, don't leave.
You've got some work to do.
We're going to talk about that in a second,
but we talked about Draymond yesterday
before coming back from his five-game suspension.
Now, he looked good in his return,
locked up some bonuses and big shots,
but he also got a costly
tech in the fourth quarter. Came after this play where he appeared to flop. The reaction
was a little bit late. I think he was salty that Malik Monk didn't get called for the
carry. That was his tech? See, now that's a point. See, now that's dumb, and that's- Okay, see now that's a pointless, see now that's dumb.
And that's, we've seen Dre- They give him a tech for that?
We've seen Dre do some wild shit and not- Get a tech.
The ref's not bad at eye.
Yeah.
And he gets a tech for over exaggerating the carry.
I'm telling you, it's an ego thing.
Now that's the one that a ref should be-
Fine for.
Fine for. Fine for.
It's an ego thing.
That was nothing but an ego tech.
Like, oh, you want to do this in this game,
in this big moment in Sacramento?
Because it's easy to pick on.
Yeah.
It's easy to pick on.
Those are the... Yeah, but all right, cool, do that,
but here's your fine in the mail, Mr. Ref,
because you want to be stupid.
How much should they be fined for dumb shit like that?
They get paid anywhere from $3,000 to $6,000 a game.
$100.
No matter what?
No matter.
Like $100.
I mean, it has to be equal to your pay, right?
I can't say oh 500
Yeah, at first I wanted to say 500 but I mean if you're making six six grand least 250
Yeah, it's a no. It's it's probably about a hundred bucks. Oh
How does that start if it's just a hundred?
100 you making six thousand shit
That what is what is 20 grants as a one who's making?
500,000 that game nothing between like what dream on dream on sex is nothing
For this year, it ain't winning great. It's irritating. I don't think I'll ever have enough money. We're 20 grand won't bother me
We all said the same thing I feel like maybe you increase it if they keep doing it. Trust me. Like, first offense, $100.
Yeah, so I think we can all agree he didn't deserve a tech there,
but does it almost feel like they're trying to send a message to Dre?
That time has passed. Like, chill on that shit?
I'm sure he got the message.
Like, I mean, that tech right there is what?
$2,000?
I don't even care about the financial standpoint of it.
Fuck you, $2,000.
Yeah, there's no sending a message to Draymond.
There's no sending at that point.
The window is closed.
There's no in-game fine that actually does anything for a main player.
You make, like, shorts, baggy shorts, five grand, technical, $2,500.
There's no end game.
It's just tick, tick, tick.
So that's what I'm saying.
With the ref, it's just $100, man.
Now, you got to remember, now $100, it should be the same way.
$100, the next one $300.
Three in one game, that's questionable, $500.
Yeah.
It increases.
But the first one, you make the one that looks like this-
When they send their little reports out, like,
was this ref did this wrong?
They need to stop doing that.
They should.
I'm just saying, who cares about y'all fucking up after the fact?
Right.
The ref isn't getting any-
The average ref probably do what, four games a month?
No, way more than that.
So what's, oh.
Shit, what, eight to ten?
They make a decent amount of money, huh?
Eight to ten?
Yeah, you're talking about how many games, like a team plays 13 games a month, 12 games a month, right?
So, I mean, it's over 100 games a month?
Yeah, so the refs take it home, what, 80? Shit. Like almost 80. Oh, yeah, we talked about it before. It might games a month. Yeah, so the ref taking home what 80
80 oh, we talked about before this cut it might be a couple hundred racks. Yeah, I'm gonna say Yeah, no, they're making listen. They're making some racks when you when you add it all up, right?
But you still gotta find them according to like, you know me I don't even like the motherfuckers like that
But I you know to justify like a hundred dollars man Showing compassion $100 and I'm gonna be fair so y'all can sit there say I'll get fucked about that little $100
Now you see what we be said you
So we got the stats here on average refs get paid anywhere from two hundred fifty thousand to five hundred and fifty thousand a season
Hey, there are three levels of income when you're're an NBA referee based on years of experience and performance.
When you're a rookie, wage starts at $600 per game.
$600?
$600 per game.
But you figure they do 82 games in a season.
That translates to $250,000.
Shit.
I mean, plus travel.
Does anybody know the max, like a ref?
How many games a ref actually got foster
Got signed to a max ref do also does that
Have any game how many so how many games was a ref actually yeah do yeah, that's what will
But you got to imagine. I don't know what the math is right like over a thousand total games in a season
I don't know how many refs
there are, but I'm sure
some of these guys are doing
three to four games a week.
So they get about 82 games in.
Look at that.
Yeah, 82.
Does anybody in the chat know,
do refs have back-to-backs?
Like, what's...
I'm so curious now.
For sure.
I think so, yeah.
Like, you ain't having it today.
Yeah, because if a ref
is in Milwaukee,
he can definitely go down
to Chicago, which is an hour.
Yeah, so veteran officials will call upwards of 70 games a year.
Yeah, so no, there's probably no back-to-backs.
Okay.
Because it wouldn't be—
So refs out here low managing?
No, no, no.
The reason there wouldn't be no back-to-backs is because they don't get on private planes.
Yeah, but you could do back-to-backs in certain—
From Milwaukee to Chicago, that's only an hour drive.
Yeah, but you're reffing on the drive, but he's going to flop to Chicago, that's only an hour drive. Yeah, but you're
reffing on the drive
and he's going to flop.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like Orlando, Miami,
you can...
What they make a fly?
Southwest?
No, that's what I'm saying.
Drive.
But I'm saying if you're driving,
anything can happen between that
where you lose that ref,
so they probably give him
a day in between.
Like I've never...
Like, I don't know.
You got to...
That's something someone
has to Google to have me...
Yeah, I mean, I feel like there's enough ref gotta, that's something someone has to Google to have me.
That is what, yeah, I mean I feel like there's enough refs that just wouldn't make sense
to make a ref do it back to back.
I mean like yeah, like if the Clippers, Lakers, like I'm gonna stay here.
That's it, like they play uh.
Yeah, that'd be the only way, you know.
They play Saturday, they only play Saturday, the Clippers and the Lakers.
They do the, the same ref group.
They do the same.
Yeah, this ain't fucking AAU y'all.
This ain't AAU man.
They be doing that shit in high school. It's like ref you. You got the same ref group? They do those. Yeah, this ain't fucking AAU, y'all. This ain't AAU, man.
They be doing that shit in high school.
It's like refs. You got the same ref on the goddamn court.
I'll take a break, man.
Them refs starving out there.
They working four or five games in a tournament.
Oh, they would be tired.
So Brandon, this is the last question.
You said the Warriors are cooked.
Do you believe it?
Mike, don't leave.
You got a lot of work to do.
He's going to have to go in there roofless and make a trade.
He's going to have to make a big-time trade.
Bob Myers left for a reason.
He's like, y'all can have that.
Go ahead and deal with that mess.
Nah, I mean...
For real.
Because, you know, Steve Kerr is up this year.
Klay's up.
If you're Dunleavy, this is not a position you want to be in.
Unless he wants to get ruthless.
It's either a fail or genius.
There's no in-between.
You got too many people up, right, at the same time,
and you got to figure out who is priority.
You got Steve Kerr up, you got Clay, you got Curry coming up,
you got the signed Kaminga bag. Ooh.
Yeah, you got a lot. You need to just get ruthless. Just make a trade.
On some Tupac.
On some Tupac. Hit him up. Never coming back.
Damn. This is not how I saw this dynasty.
Riding into the sun, but this is how, you know.
And I'm going to tell you who's in that trade.
It got to be Dre, it got to be Klay, and it got to be Kaminga.
Dre, Klay, Kaminga, and then go down to the Clippers and get some of them?
Yeah.
Yeah, you got to do like CP, like you got to go in there and just,
and then also think about if you want Steve Kerr to come back.
Since he don't have his assistant players no more.
You know, that's a lot.
It's a lot you got to think about.
Yeah.
If I get Paul, if I can get Paul George.
You can get Paul George and Kawhi with Klay.
I mean, with Kerr.
Yeah, with Steph.
I mean, they could force that on their own.
Because, I mean, defense, your defense goes back up,
then I don't want to lose Drayden.
I don't want to lose Draymond.
Okay.
Some shit's going to go down.
I don't want to lose Draymond.
And we will be here to talk about it when it does.
All right, this summer.
Let's get back into this in-season tournament.
The group stage is complete.
We know the final eight teams that will be advancing
for a chance to win 500 racks and a janky trophy.
So here's the crew.
First off, let's start in the Eastern Conference.
Bucks are the top seed in the East, and we'll face off against the number four seed Knicks.
Oh, my God.
They got a cakewalk.
The Pacers are the two seed, and we'll play the third seed of Celtics.
Who has a cakewalk?
Who got a cakewalk?
Both.
Both of who?
Both of the East.
Who is both?
New York and Pacers.
Come on, y'all.
What you mean?
I mean-
Come on, what does that mean?
The Bucs are where they supposed to be.
Yeah, that's the easy to New York.
They just have to win once, right?
Easy.
So they win in advance.
Easy work right there.
Celtics-
They playing in-
Boston.
We coming to see you. Boston, Easy. So they win in advance.
No, easy work right there.
Celtics. They playing in here, right?
Boston.
We coming to see you.
Boston play Pacers.
Boston in Indiana.
Second round.
Indianapolis.
Easy work.
Second round.
Second round.
We got Boston.
And look at the other side.
Lakers, we got to go against KD and Booker.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
Yep.
Come on, man.
Y'all got sons in Spurge.
We playing against Superstar. Let's start with the East, Gil East go who you got coming out of the East with that crew. Go ahead. Go ahead
Yeah, I see bucks and balls. I mean bucks and Boston in the championship
Oh there being the final four on the final floor. So who's advancing from the
Damn, Drew got a run up on you
I'ma go
Wiz Damn, Drew got to run up on Giannis this time. I'm going to go with the Bucs,
but I think Tatum is going to be out there giving that work.
I'm going with Tatum, but I'm going with the Bucs.
That's not an answer.
I'm going like Bucs win, Tatum got 50 every game.
That's how I want
Eat MVP cuz he average 50 the whole day. Hey Jerry West. Yeah
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Then if I go with the Celtics, Dame got 40 every game. Basically, I'm picking the zero to have the best.
All zero.
All zeros got the best performances out there.
Okay.
I like that.
So let's move to the West.
The top seed Lakers face.
No, you didn't ask them.
Okay, we're good.
Damn, damn.
Are you going Celtics?
Yeah, but you know.
Come on, man.
Yeah, we knew.
You knew.
Very biased.
No, it ain't biased. It's correct. Y, I got a come on man bias. Listen, I got the Bucks and the Suns in the championship
That's a lot. I got the Bucks and the Suns in the champ. You know what?
It's written y'all is written
Lakers versus Boston in the championship
y'all. It's going to be Lakers
versus Boston. That would be fire.
Lakers versus Boston.
No. Celtics final
something. No. The talent
ain't the same no more. You're right.
What? The talent ain't the same.
What? The talent ain't the same on the
teams man. I would like the. LeBron
Tatum. The talent. AD. The talent is down. I would like the LeBron Tatum the talent ad the talent is down
We healthy Lakers because bronze not a true Laker
He's been here long enough. It's not a true Laker
We gotta do this shit man, we got a gym to
Boo and house party. Hey, man, listen, listen, I don't like that
We playing the Suns first round.
Like, why can't we play the Kings?
Y'all out of here.
Y'all out of here.
It seems...
But that's what I'm saying.
It's kind of rude that they finished first,
and now they got to play the fucking Suns.
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.
That seems like a punishment.
Yeah, it doesn't seem...
Lakers are 2-0 against the Suns this year,
but D-Book is not playing in either one of those games.
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.
I don't want to play...
Probably the only game people won't watch
is the Kings and the Pelicans.
I think that might be the most
exciting game,
though. You got reckless basketball.
The Lakers and the Lakers. No, that's star
power, but we talking about this just
like who gonna go after it?
Like, two and three right there,
they probably the two teams that
will be playing the hardest besides
the Knicks.
So ideal situation, right?
Bucs-Lakers, finals preview.
Nah, man, it's going to be Bucs.
It's going to be Bucs-Suns.
It's going to be Lakers versus Boston if it's written.
For us to win the championship, I want Lakers versus Pacers.
If the Lakers want to win the championship, I want Lakers versus Pacers. If the Lakers...
If the Lakers...
If they want to win.
If they want to win.
I mean, the Lakers-Boston first in-season tournament is pretty good.
Hey, man, Bron's going to be the first.
Listen, this is why Bron's going to be better than Jordan.
Bron's going to be the first one.
Your first NCAA.
He's going to be the first one with the in-season reign.
I knew it.
He got the in-season championship.
I knew it.
I knew it.
In-season GOAT.
An in-season GOAT, baby!
First one ever!
An infinite amount of more in-season MVPs than Jordan.
We got to create some shit, man.
So while this is going on, it's still
going to be other games, right?
Yes, so the league released the schedule for the other 22 teams.
So they'll be playing.
I think they'll be playing on days
that the NCAA tournament is not playing.
If the NBA was smart, I'd work for them.
Do these games still count?
Except that the championship is played. That's the only game that the NBA was smart. I do games still count
Okay, okay do these games still count not yeah
Every game except the championship game I believe still impacts record now that should be like if you want the in-season tournament to be the In-season tournament you got to take it away from the regular season
So the in-season game shouldn't it should just be the in-season games
It shouldn't be regular games inside of... So what do you say?
Reduce the 82 game schedule
and lower it? Okay, I'm just like, let's go back
to that list. Don't let these games count against your record
at all. So you play 82 plus the
in-season tournament games?
No, like, is there any other games
going on during these games?
We don't know. Yeah, let me see.
The quarterfinals?
Like, right. December 9th, just the championship. Yeah, let me see. The quarter finals? Just those two games on December 7th. Like right.
And December 9th, just the championship.
Just, okay.
All the days, guys.
So basically, December 4th and 5th, there's more games going on, right?
Right now.
That takes away from- Yeah, it takes away like Sacramento Kings
versus Pelicans.
No, I'm sorry.
No, just those games on those days.
Oh, just these games.
Okay, okay, that's okay.
Then we're good.
I was about to say, that's what I was going to say, Lenny.
Then we're good, we're good.
Oh, then it takes away from- Man, I'm waiting. Oh, listen. All's okay. Then we're good. I was about to say, that's what I was going to say. Then we're good, we're good. Oh, then it takes away from me. Man, I'm waiting.
Oh, listen.
All this in-season tournament shit sounds cool.
I'm waiting for December 21st.
December 21st.
Who coming home, dude?
Oh, NBA.
I'm telling you right now.
What's December 21st?
I'm telling you right now.
How y'all been dealing with this man?
Who coming home, dude?
This is him, 25.
Oh, John's first game. John already Coming home, baby. He coming home and he ain't coming home on the road
December 19, so you might as well take that fucking game off TNT. We're not playing against the Pelicans. No
You gotta come to Memphis
Indiana Pacers better make that the TNT game
Josh smart Josh coming home.
NBA, y'all can beg this man all you want, but you're already on his bad side.
Right?
He's going to play at home.
If it's me, I'm playing at home in front of my reporters.
I'm not going to play my first game out of suspension on the road where y'all...
Talk it, Gil.
So Pelicans, y'all are not going to get Ja Morant when he's done. So y'all can take that game off TNT rightall... Talk it, Gil. So Pelicans, y'all are not going to get Ja Morant
when he's done.
So y'all can take that game off TNT right now.
Talk it, Gil.
Let it be known.
Put the TNT game, put that TNT game
the 21st against the Pacers
because that will be the most brilliant move.
Come back at home
where you're in a safe environment
away from the negative-ass reporters. That's going to be in a safe environment. Damn. Away from the negative ass reporters.
That's going to be such a fun game.
We out here jigging.
Jaws going to be back.
Christmas present coming early.
I can't wait.
I can't wait because they weak.
Yeah.
And at this point-
What if he come back and they just start-
At this point, I don't give a fuck if they win no more games
as long as y'all average 30 shit.
30?
He might, because...
If I'm him,
I'm going to look at the record,
but hey, y'all.
Hey, y'all, look.
At this point,
do I even need to pass the ball?
Y'all really need to...
Y'all done showed me
who y'all are.
He can't win.
I'm not coming back
averaging 10 X's. I can tell you
that. He should just come
back, drop a 60 piece, then retire.
Fire.
Put myself in the house.
I'm suspending myself.
I'm done.
Thought you was fucking with me.
I'll see y'all next time.
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You're trying to get some bread trying to get our our money right for this holiday season again
None of us are experts. So when he's the don't eat can y'all donate I got 50 cents, man
I got fit just don't need
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Giving away $100,000 for a shootout.
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Mm-hmm.
That they don't know about yet.
Mm-hmm.
But they're going to find out about soon.
Also, if you don't like our pics, think we suck at this,
then feel free to fade us.
I don't know shit about this terminology.
I just learned what that meant.
That means you're not fucking with us.
Fade?
I'm fading. I'm not rocking.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know, we're from fades a little bit different.
Fade, yes.
People are feeling kind of way about the Thanksgiving pics, Gil.
Oh, yeah, wait.
How did those do?
If I went ten and four and you damn near went against damn near everything I see,
you was trash.
Okay, so don't listen to me.
Don't listen to me.
First game, Lakers at Pistons.
How many games Pistons lost now?
13, 14, 15, 17?
Shit.
Wait, what?
So Lakers at Pistons tonight.
14 losses in a row for the Pistons Detroit. Yeah, and we was around
It was on that type of losing streak to over there. I mean it just runs I guess yeah, what are you saying?
I'm just saying good think about it. Think about it. What are you saying?
We have nothing but love respect for the fire. I'm saying you run up on me
You run up on me in a locker room
Basketball gods.
All right, yeah.
You better beat that schedule.
Man, we will not be going
to the ZK.
We will not be going
to the ZK.
He saw his tree.
Let me go here and stop, man.
I totally appreciate you. We will not be pulling up to the ZK in 2024 or something. Let me go inside his tree. Let me go in his stuff, man. At that time, we appreciate you.
We will not be pulling up to the Z-Canon in 2024.
Unfortunately, we will do Zoom interviews only.
You're going to get me fucked up, Gil.
They think I'm you.
They associate you with me with you.
Leave that man alone, all right?
I know.
Shit.
See where you came from.
I like it.
He's actually playing well.
He's doing a good job.
Shout out, Beef Stew.
And the city of Detroit
Fine people but LeBron 6.5 assists
Higher or lower he's averaging six point three point five assists this season This is the shit that Brian's my gears when it be right on it against Detroit higher tonight. It's the tire. Yeah
Then one of those guys my fingers and they just got smacked
Yeah, he's one of them 44 paced. I'm gonna go higher go today
Unless I feel strongly against his opinion I'm gonna agree with Gil no, I feel like off last wait. What is there other options?
Let me do let me hope I'm just let me host. Okay, I'm getting better. We're gonna go higher. Okay, I'm just... Let me host. I'm getting better at this.
I'm going to go higher.
I'm getting better at this thing.
I feel like Brian should be in hater mode, though.
Y'all lost that last game, so I'm going to take it on him.
But LeBron rebounds.
8.0 rebounds.
Higher or lower.
He's averaging 7.5 rebounds this season.
Okay, he had zero last game,
which means he's consciously going to be trying to rebound. First time since 2010 or something.
He's consciously going to be rebounding, so he might get eight.
All right.
But he's not going to get nine?
Because that means now you're thinking, is he going to get a double-double?
I think he's going to get a triple-double tonight.
It's Detroit.
Oh!
No, but I'm dead.
No, I mean, that's one of the minutes.
We might not play that many minutes. But, you know, we got some lingering beef. He might get ran up on
So Detroit got rebounders to they got the young boy that rebounds you got your dad rebounds of I
Like I personally just like this is he like yes, I, so that means he has to get nine rebounds?
He has to get, or you can go lower.
I'm going lower than eight.
I don't like these ones because if he hits eight, then it basically don't count.
And it's like shit.
It seems like either he's going to get eight or a double-double.
Right, so if you think he's going to get a double-double, then you have to go with the higher.
So we'll go AD now.
2.5 blocks higher or lower.
He's averaging 2.8 blocks per game this season.
Tie for most in the league with Brooke Lopez.
Against Detroit?
Yeah, I'm going to take the higher.
Okay.
Everything higher today.
Everything higher.
We got to do hater days, too, where we just go lower on everything, whatever it is.
That was me on Thanksgiving.
Lower.
I'm not doing shit, except for turnovers.
All right, so AD, 23.5 points.
Higher or lower, he's averaging 21.8 points per game this season.
Higher.
Okay, you think he's going to get the...
He could be one of those 30 and 17 games for AD.
He played like dog shit last game, so he coming.
Dog shit.
We should hire you.
Okay.
This is... I've lost 14 games in a row.
Still got some good young players.
Cade Cunningham being one of them.
So, Cade, 30.5 points in assists combined, higher or lower.
He's averaging 22.2 and 7.1 assists per game this season.
22.7, so he's at 29?
Yeah, it's about 29.3.
30.5 is the higher or lower for points and assists.
I'm going lower.
Lower?
Ooh.
Who's going to be guarding him?
I don't know.
Someone has to get...
It's just assists and points?
Correct.
I mean, someone has to put up numbers,
but if they're getting blown out,
he's going gonna get subbed
out.
But it is the Lakers, Gilson.
Like, we're under, but again, if they get blown out, then AD and Bron are gonna get
subbed out too.
It is the Lakers, so this shit could very well go down to the wire.
I think the Lakers will win, but it could definitely be-
I don't know why anybody would bet on the Lakers.
Chat, chat what y'all think.
What y'all think?
Why do y'all do this with the Lakers?
Chat, what y'all think?
I want to chat. What do y'all think? They gonna say lower why do y'all do this with the lake at what y'all think I want to chat
What do y'all think they don't say lower if they say Lord then we're going Lord. Okay, Laura. Okay, they're saying lower
Higher Lord Lord. We're gonna go low lower. Sorry. Don't go low. We don't believe me 30 30 and a half
All right. Now let's move on Sixers Pelicans
Okay on the road six on the road to Pelican. So let's move on. Sixers, Pelicans. Okay.
Sixers on the road to Pelicans, so let's talk about reigning MVP.
10.5 rebounds.
Higher or lower?
NB.
NB, 10.5 rebounds, higher or lower.
He's averaging 11.3.
Higher.
They play small ball, higher.
You think Zion ain't going higher?
Higher.
They need a fist fight.
2.5 blocks and steals combined higher or lower is every 1.9 blocks 1.0 steals
Wait steals and steals and block. I like when under die. I like when y'all do that shit. I
Like the convo's and blocks 2.5 is the higher or lower he's averaging 2.9 total between blocks and steals. That's a Pelican.
That's a tough one.
Yeah, so you got, who's the drivers?
You got Zion, he ain't gonna really block Zion like that.
Kennan, you were so good the whole show.
I don't know, I don't like it.
Down? Lower?
Yeah, I don't like it.
Yo, this is your show?
I don't like it. I cannot pick.
I'm literally just saying it's your show, you get to do what you saying sure you get to do it you want and we have to accept it. So we got two others
We are higher higher
See I don't like that. Is he chatty? I'm gonna be positive today. Just a personal gripe
I don't like any time is like
0.5 turn or whatever just too much time in the game and too much janky stuff that could happen
I like things that I can get locks get by the end of the first quarter.
Big man.
And now I'm watching Salty like, was that a block or a steal?
Man, he just got fouled, so the block don't count.
I usually take the block.
When it's blocking and steal, I usually like to take the over.
Yeah.
I mean the higher.
So now let's move to Zion.
23.5 points.
Higher or lower? He's averaging 23.4 this season.
Higher. Higher. The game is fast enough for him.
Debo mode. Yeah, no. Sixers. Sixers trying to get some buckets. Higher.
Last but not least, Brandon Ingram. 23.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 24.6 points per game this season.
It's almost identical to the 24.7 he averaged last season.
Lower.
Yeah.
Tyrese Maxey ain't on there?
Nah.
What?
Yeah, I go lower for Ingram. Underdog, stop doing that shit, too. Put Maxey on there. Yeah'm going high. Yeah, I go Laura for Ingram.
$100, stop doing that shit too.
Put Maxie on there.
Yeah, he cooking.
Stop disrespecting them.
Who has to guard B.I.?
Tobias, right?
Tobias.
Give me 25.
He giving 25.
I'm about to say.
Yeah, he about to give that light-skinned dude some work.
I'm going to holler at them and beat them.
We need a little higher, lower.
They might go 30 and 28.
It might be one of those from the combined.
Because I think they know what they're doing now.
Who, Zion and...
Zion, yeah. They're going to give us about...
They're figuring it out. They know what they're doing now. Who, Zion and... Zion, yeah. Then they're going to give us about...
They're going to give us about combined,
probably 55 to 60 points combined.
So last game, Clippers at Kings.
We're going to talk about where's Paul though, PG.
24.5 points, higher or lower.
Who we playing against?
It's...
Low.
Lower.
I had Sacramento.
No? Second night of back-to-back right or am I tripping?
Oh damn. Oh no the Kings are on the back-to-back. Them young boys moving. They
moving up and down. Yeah they don't get tired like the... So you
said what's the points? So 24.5 points higher lower he's averaging
24.2 points per game this season. Had a season-low six points last game versus the Nuggets.
Trash!
Bounce back 20.
Pauly out here getting it.
Bounce back game against them.
25.
Shout out Pauly, our director,
AD, sound effect guy, legend.
I'm going to go higher.
For PG?
I'm going to go lower.
I'm going lower, too.
I'm going to go lower.
I don't know.
I feel like this could be a game
where he actually cooks
because they rotate now. Yeah, and that's what it's like, you know, they rotate now.
Yeah, and that's what it looks like.
It's like they're rotating.
James Harden is not, it's like he's not shooting enough to get 25 or 26.
So it has to be P.J. or Kawhi right at this point.
So I'm gonna just, I'm gonna just, I'm not happy with it.
But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna think he, I think he'll do 26.
So 1.5 blocks and steals combined, higher or lower.
Is he?
Yeah, he's averaging 0.2 blocks per game, 1.9 steals per game this season.
These are tough, man.
This is scary.
Yeah, why do people do this?
He needs two blocks and steals?
Give me high.
On a deep end?
Yeah, give me high.
He's got Sacramento play so fast.
He can get two steals or two, a block and a steal.
Yeah, I'm going high.
He's beat again. He don't want to lock up, though. Now a steal. Yeah, I'm going home. He's been a game.
He don't want to lock up, though.
Now I'm yelling at the TV.
I'd rather take that than the points.
Okay.
Okay.
Now we got a friend of the show, Russell Westbrook.
9.5 rebounds and assists combined, higher or lower.
He's averaging 6.3 rebounds, 5.3 assists.
Higher.
So, but let me just devil's advocate, Ruth.
It feels too good.
This is the shit that be feeling too good to be true.
And they be knowing something.
Like they know his analytics versus the Kings and he don't really, you know, I'm like, because last game he was cooking.
You think they be setting people up?
I'm just saying rebounds.
This one feels like a setup.
They said 9.5.
So you get five rebounds and five assists.
And he's got it.
Some type of combination.
But I'm just telling you, this is the, this one, because it looked too easy.
If I'm going to get the Josh Giddy, give it to me.
I'm taking the trap.
I'm taking the trap.
Gil, this is not a joking matter.
I know it ain't.
But someone has to do it since nobody wants to report on it.
Ladies and gentlemen, as always.
I'm forced to report on it.
As always.
Give me the hire.
Underdog Fantasy does not support the views
expressed on this show. They let us cook. They understand that
we're a black show and we get reckless at times.
I'm taking the trap. Okay.
I understand that. I'm taking
the trap. Give it to me. Sorry, Dad.
Hire. Hire.
I know.
Someone has to do it. So like
we mentioned, Kings run a second night over back-to-back. That's weird
We didn't even think about it. Why is big media ain't even talking about it, though
They just do news and no reaction that's why gills arena is here for the time like okay
They're actually everything else for everything else that I think people are kind of like
Asking that same question because they're just so used to the outrage reporting.
So we need to sit down with the Australian version of Jalen Rose to really see what the fuck's going down.
Don't sit with Andrew Bogut.
He's selling off his business.
Andrew Bogut got it.
Yeah, I heard that.
Nigga, what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, what the hell?
Fuck you all over here.
So Kings run a second out of a back-to-back.
Let's focus on clutch player of the year from last season, De'Aaron Fox.
27.5 points, higher or lower.
He's averaging a career-high 29.8 points per game this season.
He dropped 29 last night on the Warriors.
Ooh, back-to-back?
Yeah, he's getting after it.
He's getting after it.
That young gentleman, he got them Currys on, man.
He good.
Yeah, I forgot about him. He stole. I forgot about... He stole his powers. Damn.
He stole his powers.
You said he stole his powers?
Damn.
Take my shit off.
Where's it at?
In Sac.
In Sac, yeah.
He got 31 piece.
At home?
31.
Light the beam.
31.
All right, dear.
That beam is phenomenal.
Shout out Sacramento, all right?
That was a great move.
Light the beam.
Whatever it is. It kind of smells like cow boo boo out Sacramento. All right, that was a great move like the beam
Whatever it is kind of smells like cow boo boo out there. But other than that you got fine
fine entertainment venues nice people
It do smell like a good basketball team now in a really good team that you deserve. Yeah cows and that's
That's how you drive through Central Cali going in them tournaments in Fresno
Shout out to Fresno too though, but now let's get into our last statement of that's the only person on set
What I guess it's only one. Yeah, I mean, that's the night. That's good
mostly fans
my underdog fantasy
We asked you guys to give us some questions you delivered
You don't hire lower than You delivered. You're going higher or lower tonight.
Oh, shit.
I'm going to get fired.
All right, first question comes from Underdog User BigShep62.
Why do players block players from shooting when it's a timeout or stoppage?
That's a petty as hell. That is petty.
It's this thing of rhythm.
You don't want a player to see the ball go in.
So if someone like Klay, right, he's struggling, right,
you don't want him to take those shots because that's what a player do.
A player who hasn't found his rhythm yet, he's trying to use that as getting shots.
So someone like Klay, all he has to do is see the ball go in.
That ball going in triggers him to.
But as a Devils advocate, yourself or Klay,
somebody does that, let's say KG grabs it out,
don't you in your mind just already think,
oh, it wasn't going to go in?
No, sometimes you got to see it.
It's a visual thing.
I want to see the ball go in.
That should be making me laugh.
So me.
That's what's most to block those shots.
I used to do that against the ticket, right?
I used to tell, hey, anytime there's something happening, throw the ball up there, he's going to jump.
So let him jump an extra 40-something times, hopefully by the fourth quarter.
You know, hopefully by the fourth quarter, he's a little tired, right?
So every time something happens, just throw it up there.
He's going to try to block it. He just sitting there jobbing up. It didn't work
It didn't work
But you know the fact that I don't think this really is indicative of who you are the human being the fact that knowledge you
Think about that, but try to get that off of the game this thing are we get him to jump 10
Yeah, Jim today. You might get higher times and hopefully by the fourth quarter. He ain't got no leg that work
All right, next question. I ain't got no leg that work He's not ready you don't got the you don't got the he got little legs half straight for that
Yeah, dog don't know how to jump. Let's move on to question number two
underdog user, I ain't calling no grown man Daddy MC.
I'll just.
Daddy MC?
Daddy MC is the username.
In the prime of your careers,
what would you add to enhance your game?
Steph Curry's three point shot,
MVP Rose athleticism, LeBron durability,
Shaq strength, Kobe work ethic choose one
Probably LeBron's durability
I mean cuz I got hurt so I thought it said LeBron's do-rag ability at first, but it said durability.
Do-rag ability.
I feel like I'm about to step into my prime right now.
So I would say Steph's shooting ability, I feel like I can take my shooting to another level.
So I think that would be great.
And just, you already can shoot good.
So if you had MVP Rhodes Athletics, you could be out there win milling up
I want to do that just say you don't want to win milling on down
You've never had like okay
No, okay. I want to shoot five thousand threes. I'm saying you already have the three-pointer
You already have that like that, but you need
Why I told you I don't be taking enough threes in games
So now I want to try to get them like.
We're going to get that right.
We're going to holler and see what's going on.
We will check back.
I would have to say probably Kobe's work ethic.
Okay.
I would have that.
His work ethic.
And last question.
It's a video question.
Underdog user, look at me 59.
What's up, Giz Arena?
Hey, yo, which NBA player you think would make his first All-NBA this year?
And will Victor Wimbyama make an All-NBA this year?
First of all, who cut his mustache?
I mean, how low did he go on this one?
Giz, that man has a backwards beanie on.
He did it himself.
First All-NBA. Who's going to make their first All-NBA?
So let me give you some notable players that have yet to make any All-NBA teams.
Jamal Murray, Jalen Brunson, LaMelo Ball, Tyrese Halliburton,
and Edwards, Tyrese Maxey.
Halliburton for sure.
Yeah, Halliburton or LaMelo.
I think LaMelo could have, if he gets back.
I mean, he's going to be missing some time with that anchor in.
Jump!
And this is the other part we have to...
Yeah, I thought he was about to jump. He did.
The other thing we have to factor in now...
That's that dog built funny.
He's a wiener dog.
Yeah, it's like it's...
That's how they are.
It's like...
Another day on...
Exactly.
Another day on Gills Arena.
Don't body shame my dog.
Oh, my fault.
I forgot that is a thing.
Thank you.
Players have to play 65 games to be eligible for postseason awards,
so just keep that in mind.
LaMelo's going to miss him extended time.
I don't know if it's going to be 17 games or more.
He was hooping.
He was hooping.
There's going to be some guys with hurt feelings this season.
I will say that.
Tyrese maxi
Maxi and Halliburton. Um, yeah, Halliburton. Um, they ain't doesn't that make yeah Anthony Edwards for sure. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, I would like to see Jamal Murray because he ain't playing well no we haven't played in a
11 games
It feels like he might be in another one those guys who's not even going to be eligible.
Okay.
Averaging, but he's still averaging like 14, 16 anyway.
He got the particular.
And then there's the, will Wim be making all NBA teams?
So just for the record, last three rookies to make all NBA, Tim Duncan, David Robinson,
both made third team.
Michael Jordan, oh, Timmy was first team.
Jordan was second team. David Robinson was third team. Timmy was first team, Jordan was second team,
David Robinson was third team.
Tim Duncan was first team,
rookie year?
Or he won his rookie year?
Yeah.
He won second year.
Second year.
I don't think so.
Not this year.
He turns the ball over too much.
No, not this year.
Not this year.
No.
For Wimby?
No.
No.
I mean, to be honest,
unless he goes on the hell of a
second half,
I mean, at the end
of it is like what we remember last so you know if there's if you know in that
February stretch and he 50 48 51 of them type of numbers and they're winning
they'll put him on I could definitely see uh you know like a flinky like I I feel like he's just gonna... Yeah, like the dog in Toy Story. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that the same type of dog?
Ah, he got little legs.
Oh, man.
He wants to jump so bad.
I'm waiting with bated breath to see if the dog tried to jump off this couch.
He's looking.
We already know when he jumps, he's going like... Another glorious day.
Like a chew toy.
Another glorious day
in the arena.
Appreciate it.
You as always,
for giving us an opportunity
to help provide
for our families.
Lexi, appreciate having you
back on the couch.
This is your only day
this week, right?
You're back next week, though.
And one day next week.
Y'all hate me?
Me too. Yeah, me too. I think I only got one. I don't see y'all too late
No, it was my father's we got a doctor's appointment side. Okay. Yeah, I couldn't see y'all too late next Wednesday
Don't look at me. I'm not the one who do this get him
Don't look at me. I've been getting a look at I've been getting thrown under guillotine. Ooh
Yeah, yeah
Get a long Ooh. Yeah, yeah. That's a segment. The guillotine. You had a long weekend.
Ooh. Yep. I got a long
weekend. I ain't back on until next Wednesday.
I've been fighting for my life.
A glorious Thanksgiving weekend.
I get involved.
Let's all enjoy
ourselves. You know, take care of yourselves
and each other like Jerry Spinner used to say.
Rest in peace to the legend. We will see you guys
what's today? Wednesday? Tomorrow's Thursday? I'm tired of the chat. Listen, listen, go ahead. You know, I've been getting I've been getting called out for this like
Like free Miko. Oh
Right. Yeah. No, no, they keep saying in the chat free Miko. So she wanted me to dress it
That's what you've been saying. Okay, so Miko will still negotiate with Miko.
And that's our show for today. We will see y'all on Thursday on Gil's Arena
presented by Underdog Fantasy.
That motherfucker's out of here.
Whoa, whoa. We'll be right back. Thank you. Outro Music