Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates If Wemby Is ALREADY Top 20 In The NBA
Episode Date: March 18, 2024Gil's Arena Debates If Victor Wembanyama Is ALREADY A Top 20 Player In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down another ridiculous stat line from the French Phenom and discuss Draym...ond Green's comments that he would already put the Rookie Of The Year favorite in the upper echelon of all NBA players. They also react to Kyrie Irving's incredible game winner of Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets and debate if it was one of the best game winners in NBA history before recapping a legendary showdown between LeBron James & The Los Angeles Lakers and Steph Curry & The Golden State Warriors that got a little too wacky at the end. Finally, they discuss the now infamous jersey swap between Grady Dick & Anthony Black before recapping all the NBA action from this weekend highlighting big performances from Damian Lillard, Zion Williamson and Jalen Brunson. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:08:11 Black Dick Jersey Swap 0:11:46 Gil Addresses Saucy Santana 0:19:02 Amin Elhassan's Janky Jumper 0:22:37 Jankiest Jumper You've Ever Seen 0:25:40 Lakers-Warriors Late Game Shenanigans 0:28:39 More Disappointing Season - Lakers or Warriors? 0:31:02 NBA Players Are Softer Than Ever 0:59:15 Kyrie's INSANE Game Winner 1:06:20 Best Game Winners Of All Time 1:12:15 Will Kyrie Make Team USA This Summer? 1:18:56 Is Wemby A Top 20 Player In The NBA? 1:43:45 Dame & Giannis Can't Play Together 2:05:32 MostlyFans 2:36:12 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Another glorious Monday here in the arena.
We are back. March Madness in full effect.
We got some madness that's about to happen on this couch today.
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that we will address shortly.
The internet's been clamoring for a response.
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enjoying a leisurely Sunday.
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Minding my business.
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What does that have to do with me? I don't know who it is. Y'all feel this way? But they just say they just say get your man
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game made Bucks history in a big win over the Suns without Giannis but is it
time for the East to fear the deer?
Wimby dropped another legendary stat line against the Nets,
but is he a top 20 player in the league right now?
And Kyrie stunned Jokic in the Nuggets with a left-handed hook at the buzzer.
So where does it rank amongst the best game winners
in NBA history?
He even had magic tweeting.
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We're going to start this one with one of the more interesting things
that we saw this weekend.
So after the Magic Raptors game Sunday,
rookies Anthony Black and Grady Dick decided to exchange jerseys.
Keep it classy, fellas.
Keep it classy.
You see them smirking, smiling.
Really
communicating together. And we got
the first ever
Black Dick
jersey swap in NBA history. I repeat,
a Black Dick jersey swap.
The first ever in NBA history. I repeat, a black dick jersey swap. The first ever in NBA history.
Anthony Black, Grady Dick, black dick on the jerseys.
You said that.
Man.
I said it four times.
Way too comfortable.
You said it four times at the flinch.
You said it like, I want y'all to know
Like first time in history
It's like when you when you're a child and your parents give you that one chance to cut
You use it
Nearly conveying the news. Don't you say that again. It got louder and louder.
Merely conveying the news of the first ever Black Dick jersey swap in NBA history.
Again.
The tip time.
Again.
Again.
The magic social media coordinator who may or may not have a job posted it, quickly deleted it after getting packed up.
But fellas, what do you guys think about the first ever Black Dick Jersey swap in NBA?
Now, you know what makes it actually funny? That they both thought about it at the same time. They
both like consciously thought about this. Because if you see the Magic Kid, he actually goes and
gets the cameraman. He goes and gets the cameraman and then they. He goes and gets the camera man,
and then they decide to do it.
The fact that they did it in the NBA arena on TV,
just, ah, that's ballsy.
That's crazy.
I know.
That's beyond crazy. That's beyond.
Major.
What?
Lord.
No, sir.
Stop.
It could be to my best friend.
No, we're not doing that. I'm not
Man, I'm like we saw do we can swap Jersey with no picture no photo. Oh, none of that
Big black
Like they just want to swap talking about what are we talking about to rookies there for what are we talking about?
So sire Wow
Wow, you didn't go get suspended
Now they wrote their young guy. They gonna get a good stern talking to
Nice, no, they can't exchange. That's a
Tradition in the fact that you as a young kid in this generation you would think that's fun like that's funny to you
Can't help that's your name, but... You know?
Like, I remember Andre Blotch, right?
His name is Blotch, right?
And I thought it was funny to, like,
cut the L and make it an I,
right, have the T cut off the E,
so his name was Bitch.
Or Biatch.
And I actually did it so he can wear it in a game.
Get the fuck out of here guess I guess when he put the
Jersey on like he felt like random air coming through and he had to look at it and wow almost got only you would think
It's almost got it. I almost got you're always
By the way, you would have got him a suspect he would have got all type of fines and fishing all types of stuff
It'll be the funniest in the world though for sure
Not funny that's not funny to me.
That's not funny?
No.
That's OD.
That's OD.
That's OD.
You would pull him aside and be like, look, Brooks,
you can't be.
That's more than false.
And GP, we can't do that.
Yeah, yeah.
The fact that they was light skinned and white is fine.
Yeah, because it's like two white boys.
Yeah, yeah, white boys.
They did what they wanted to do.
They wanted us to talk about it.
That's white boy humor, man.
You know.
Just a Jersey.
White boy humor.
Hey, man, what you doing?
Surprise we haven't seen more Grady Jersey swaps.
What you doing, bro?
Like, nah, you get beat up for doing shit like that.
So the legends over at Purple and Gold Mines dropped a list of some other Grady jersey swaps that need to happen
We have that list for you what you know, so we got the Anthony black you also have you know, Kobe white
You can get the yo
Sharp dig if you want to do the sharp diggers Moody Dick. Moody Dick. Holiday Dick. Moody Dick. What are we talking about?
Sharp Dick.
If you want to do the Sharp Dick Dursley.
Stop.
Wong Dick.
Wow.
Wong.
I'm not even.
I'm out of this conversation.
Moody.
More.
More.
Uh-oh.
See?
Yeah, that lives up. You got another legend in the building another legend in the building
Really three-time MVP me because it is March Madness. We also have to throw in NCAA champion. You should always throw that in. Oh, okay.
We'll leave that part out.
I do every time.
Point blank, period.
I do every time.
But I tell you, too many accolades.
We only have a certain amount of time on the show.
If I had to read them all, we would not have a show.
It's too many accolades.
Cheryl Swoops, back in the building, in the arena.
What's up, y'all?
Jersey Swap.
Oh, we need that.
I'm sorry.
Can you tell Cheryl what we were just talking about?
You got to answer this one more time.
Cheryl Swoops! We got smoke!
Can you get Cheryl up to speed on what we were just talking about?
What we were talking about?
You said it out loud.
Yeah, he won.
Anthony Black, Grady Dick. I thought I heard something. Yeah, you heard something. I'm on other news. I do I'm the yeah he won't he
Heard something Speaking of black dick. You know who would be a funny one?
You know who would be a funny one?
If Giddy and Young did one.
Oh my Lord.
Giddy likes some Young.
Ladies and gentlemen, this may be our last show.
This may be our last show.
What are we talking about, fellas?
This may be our last show.
Oh, God!
I just said, that would be a hell of a jerk.
You don't know Gilbert?
No, we're not.
You don't know Gilbert?
I know Gilbert.
For sure.
I know Gilbert.
This may be our last show, ladies and gentlemen.
That's Gilbert.
Man.
Gilbert, introduce yourself.
He don't know you.
It's a Gilbert Arena uncensored.
I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it.
I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it. I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it. I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it. I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it. I'm just saying, that would be a good one, though, if you want to do it. This may be our last show ladies and gentlemen. Gilbert introduce yourself. He don't know you.
It's a Gilbert Arena uncensored.
That would be a good one though if you want to troll.
All legend, all you know.
Okay.
Wow.
I heard you and Nick Young got a little saucy this weekend on your No Chill Gil YouTube channel.
Oh.
Ended up going viral.
We just started.
We ain't even filming.
It's Monday though.
I just report the news.
I'm at home having a leisurely Sunday.
I'm getting tagged in all types of
content. I couldn't help it. Do tell.
I think Gil needs to tell us what's going on.
I don't. What did you do?
I couldn't help it. What did
you do? Um, okay I
trolled Nick Young last
week cause he
was talking about he just got off of, what is that, reality show, College Hill Celebrities.
It started off, he was like, yeah, you know, Blac Chyna was there, right?
And he was like, oh, every man's fantasy, Blac Chyna.
So I'm like, yeah, you got it?
He's like, nah, nah, nah, nah.
And then he was like, and then one of my dogs is there saucy Santana
Right. I don't know who's our Santana was so I had to google it
Okay, so I googled and what I what I seen
Didn't make sense
So I started laughing in and then
We responded.
What did you see?
Oh, I see.
You're just gonna leave it right there?
I seen, so it was a dude, it was a rapper with a beard,
with nails, BBL, twerking.
I couldn't help myself.
I'm sorry, I couldn't, it just.
What did you do? There you go you know thank you layers layers I wasn't gonna do so they responded so yesterday
me and Nick responded and denied I said that it was more entertaining than making nostalgia.
Oh.
You're a man of the people.
Mm, mm, mm.
And we're just leaving it at that.
What did they respond with?
What did they, what was their response?
I'm getting recruited.
Yeah, the brochure came in the mail,
so I'm looking over it right now.
Saying she was gay?
Yeah, I gotta look at it,
see if, you know, I like activities that that goes down up in the community
Yeah, we support you and we're fully supportive of Gilbert
I couldn't help you help me y'all y'all he was looking at the torque video. I wasn't looking at it
So it just caught me off guard
They caught me off guard like cuz you know, I'm like yo and then I click how many times did you rewind?
another
Like I don't know there was like a time I was just looking at the whole video
And that's part of YouTube, you know, like YouTube rewind rewinds it twice let me answer this was the beard not a signal no no no no it turned i mean i i can't say it that's
that's how you get canceled right he turned he turned and then from there it's just action
well here we go let's see underdog fantasy is calling right now. I'm a I'm the last person y'all.
I'm the last person that gets put in this situation.
It's funny, but you did bring out a dollar bills.
I get a hundred.
Huh?
That about 40 50,000.
Do you have that 40 50,000 with you right now?
Just so we can know.
So Megan, I don't know what...
Megan got to respond.
Technically.
With another video?
Megan and Sally got to respond.
That's what she really wanted.
Yeah, that's what he really wanted.
Always playing chess.
She just got to be a little...
Megan got to respond and prove me wrong.
Well, let's keep this thing moving and grooving.
Athletes Unlimited had their celebrity game this weekend.
And basketball personality Amin Elhassan got roasted after video of his jumper surface.
We have that video for you.
I could help but troll.
I'm sorry.
He's brought up.
Boop, boop.
Don't do that.
Oh, damn.
Who is that?
Wait a minute.
Look at the following.
Amin Elhassan.
He plays?
Going up gang sign. Going up gang sign. I'm going to stay.
Going up gang sign.
So after the video, Amin explained himself.
He said he hasn't played basketball in seven years
and was fasting for Ramadan.
And by the looks of it, that jumper was starving.
So naturally, the internet did what the internet
does in these moments, giving Amin.
We all are on one today.
Giving him nicknames like Cedric Erebalos, Stale Ellis, and No J Mayo.
I got shooters on this couch.
If you had to shot doctor, fix a mean jumper, what would you do?
I'd take him to a chiropractor.
Getting realigned.
He'd need this whole shit adjusted.
He'd need to go out you need this whole shit adjusted. It even go out when I got a
Man you trippin clack clack clack. You got it. Ah now here broke my neck now
Yeah
Right, it's not it looked painful What is this though? What's
Well, I look at it I'm like is he really a right-handed shooter
I mean, maybe he's a lefty and was maybe he's putting the wrong sport
Oh, well that made a the ball and go nowhere near the rim or really don't even fucking matter
Yeah, they get over just a little bit more. If he would have slid over
a good five inches to his left.
Nah, it went over.
So he
said because of Ramadan
He said he hasn't played in seven years
and because of Ramadan he was
hungry and thirsty.
And that impacted his father.
I haven't played in 13 years.
He said, wait, Ramadan, he threw it over the rim.
Like, wouldn't not eating, not drinking be shorter?
I mean...
Nah, when you hungry, you deprived of liquid, your whole bearings is off.
Oh, you can't see?
You can't...
Get that man a snicker.
You missed the left, right...
He rode you, I mean, lethal shooter on line one.
So, who has the wettest, jy looking jumper that you've seen who has a jumper the form was was terrible
But it went in consistently
Bill Cartwright
Do all right, that's a good one
I'm going every mark every mark. Yep. Okay mark Kevin Martin. It was a just I Akavis to
Hey Marsha was cash from the hip, though.
From the left to the right, too.
What did you think the first time you saw it?
Oh, that shit nasty.
I'll let it out.
But he was in Western Carolina.
He was leading the nation in scoring in college.
So it wasn't that ugly, because we didn't get to see that shit.
Was it Kentucky? No, he was in Western Carolina. Yeah, Western Carolina. In college. So it wasn't that ugly because we didn't get to see that shit.
Was it Kentucky?
No, it was Western Carolina.
Yeah, Western Carolina.
He was averaging like 28.
Cooking.
Cooking.
We'd never seen no footage, so we didn't know until we got to Sacramento.
It was like, nah, he ain't that good.
He averaged a dub, too, in the league.
He averaged 20.
25.
Yeah.
For sure.
Who has the?
I don't know.
Bill Cartwright was good.
I'm going to go with, in the WN WNBA I'm probably gonna go with Alyssa Thomas
Have you seen her shit? Like it's just a one-handed. It's like a shot put
But when she's on like that money is good
So she doesn't she tore both labrums at her shoulder
But she is a walking triple-double.
Yeah, for sure.
Wait, is that the son?
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
Get buckets.
Yes.
She tore both labrums?
That's tough.
And is still playing, is getting buckets overseas right now.
So was she shooting regular before she toured, or has it always been?
So she went to Maryland.
She's always had, like, a funky shot, but I think since she toured both labrums, it got a little worse.
Yeah.
But, uh...
It go in, though.
Like, free throw line, jumper area, don't leave her open.
Mid-range.
Oh, so she can't shoot the three because of the labrum?
Yeah, she don't even go to the three-point line.
More KL Folks type shit.
That's what happened, yeah. The labrum tears is, like, you really have to be careful there
because with the labrum, they tighten it, right?
So now you're tightening that muscle or that ligament.
So that actually...
You tore yours?
No.
Oh, okay.
Shea Cotton back in the day.
So I remember when Shea got it done and they rehabbed him at home
because he was a shooter.
Yes, sir. Right? So he was it done and they rehabbed him at home because he was a shooter. Yes, sir.
Right.
So he was a shooter and they rehabbed him wrong so he couldn't lift his arm all the way back.
So now think about shooting.
Yeah, he can't get his head.
He can't get his head.
So he had to jump backwards to try to get a jump shot.
Then once people realized, oh, shit, he can't shoot anymore, back up.
Just back up and you're just going to sit in the room and you got damn near all five just waiting for him.
That's tough.
And then Markel.
It didn't look like that at Washington.
Something to this day
they hot keep it under their wraps.
After
he got drafted after Summer League
whatever happened between
Summer League and getting ready for that draft.
It happened in Summer League. think the last game I think it
was like I thought he might have been doing something no I thought before we
do something was supposed to her son yeah he was yeah I'm crazy
all right movie rookie of the year they did a good job keeping out under wraps
though the ugliest jumper we ever seen though they wasn't a real shooter though
kid Gilchrist bro oh yeah oh that's that that probably seen though. They wasn't a real shooter though. Kid Gilchrist, bro. Oh, yeah
Oh that's that that probably wasn't there. Yeah, it wasn't accurate. It wasn't going in. Yes. It was nasty. Yeah
Disgusting Steve Jackson was on the jump stack said the Michael kid girl Chris like taking a field goal
That's oh wow, that's tough. Not my words. That's a verbatim.
But let's keep it moving.
So Lakers and Warriors are both fighting to make the play in.
But this weekend, Steph and LeBron gave us some legendary performances
that was spoiled by some late game shenanigans.
I was in the building representing for Gills Arena.
So Steph was back in action after missing the previous three games,
put on a show at Staples Center.
I was back from the slow start, get legs a 31 piece.
Clay came through with 25 off the bench, hit five threes.
And LeBron did his thing with AD sideline after getting poked in the eye
for the final three quarters of the game.
He got dropped 40, yeah, 80.
The close shot though, yeah, 80. It closed shut though.
It was nasty.
But, you know, this game was exciting.
It was going to come down to the wire.
There's some jankiness.
Went through.
No defense.
Right there.
The Warriors up late.
He's running around on it.
How does that defense? They're trying. It's not. What is that? It's not. No, the Warriors up late He's running around on it
They trying to not what is that?
Those are big man
Ron hit a three I just ran around in a circle on this nigga like it was gold tried a big man big man
So late in the fourth quarter Bron hit a three to cut it to four
NBA went back and reviewed the play said Said his foot was on the line.
Took the points away.
In the shot clock malfunction, game was delayed like 20 minutes.
I don't know if y'all watched it.
It was disappointing.
Yep.
Yeah.
It was both teams.
Hmm?
See, I mean, both teams was affected.
Yeah, both teams.
Both teams had to go through it.
One more than the other.
One a little bit more than the other. will you just look at huh how is that
yeah both teams are affected drama lebron fans i know you are okay you know we're gonna do what
we need to do to keep a gender special a little bit biased
to be an unbiased show. But they show the replay.
That's why I know they be picking on me for a reason,
because I be on the other side of the fence like, cap!
And I see you wear your San Francisco gear.
Cap!
That's a subliminal message today.
Cap!
Don't bring Rashad on next episode.
He wants this nigga back.
So your schedule is already mapped out.
Your schedule is already mapped out.
Your schedule is already mapped out.
But when you look at the Lakers and Warriors obviously both fighting for a plan,
who's had the more disappointing season so far?
Us, Lakers.
Because with the trades we had this summer,
we thought we were supposed to be them.
Not even going to lie.
We got some of them trades, and we was like, all right.
We got D'Lo back.
We got Woods.
Yep.
Right?
So they had us as, what, top three in the West.
Yeah, that was the rumor.
Gabe Vinson.
Is he playing?
He just got back from the practice court.
He just got back.
See when you get them Miami dudes, man.
Ramping up.
They get over there.
Second one.
They get over there, man.
And they work their ass off. They show us this talent. And then they get over there. Second one. They get over there, man, and they work their ass off, and they show us this talent,
and then they come over here for vacation time.
Where's Kendrick Nunn?
That man's disappeared.
No, he's out there in EuroLeague.
Pat DiNicol's killing.
He disappeared.
He's in where?
Greece.
He's in Greece.
Pat DiNicol's playing EuroLeague.
He disappeared, literally.
He went from Miami, this boy should be paid Wow so the Lakers to
disappear gay Vincent me to be on Lakers without gave me so without Vando I
cannot be overstated their contribution to this quad camera it's also been
hurting so no I mean so yeah we've Lakers is a big disappointment issue so
who's had the more disappointing season between the Lakers and the Warriors? As a fan?
Or, so I'm a Golden State fan.
So I don't know if it's most disappointing.
I'm going to say to myself personally, it's Golden State.
Just because I need Golden State to do what they do.
But I don't know what's going on with Golden State.
I mean, you got Klay coming off the bench now.
Yeah.
It's just, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
It ain't nothing either.
Think about it.
Like, Golden State, the team that got up, got rid of Jordan Poole.
Yeah.
And they're like, all right, we're going to go this direction.
Yeah.
Y'all got that roster.
Ain't nobody hurt.
Chris Paul back.
You got everything.
Y'all still look trash.
I just, I need him to go get...
Y'all still...
I just, I need him to go get...
They lost Jordan Poole.
I'm saying after that.
No.
After they made the decision to get rid of him...
But no.
To bring in Chris?
No, I mean, yeah, he left.
Jordan Poole or Chris?
I don't think they...
Yeah.
They didn't...
They didn't factor in Clay was going to be, you know...
Not there.
Yeah, probably that.
There, but not there.
Right.
I don't even want to say that,
because I don't like talking about him like that.
He's there sometimes.
He had a tough start to this season.
They didn't calculate Clay struggling like this.
That's why they should have kept Jordan Poole.
Absolutely.
Yeah, but could you see Clay struggling like this?
No one saw that.
But just the way he plays, it helps them.
Energy and everything.
Just erratic behavior coming in there, just trying shit.
Trying shit.
You know what I mean?
Him and Kaminga would play good together.
So now, you know, Klay gets shots that's not expected.
Yes, a lot of that.
So what was their reason for getting Chris Paul?
Probably thought he can control the second unit
better than Jordan Poole did.
So they probably thought
they needed someone
to really get Moody involved,
get Kaminga involved,
and really put some structure
into that second unit.
They had to get Jordan Poole out, though,
because it wasn't going to work
with him and J.
No.
That was killing the chemistry
in the locker room,
the elephant in the room. They had had to clear that out but here's
the kicker what the fuck has draymond done what has he done that helps the team right now his
numbers have went down every single year to the point now i'm looking like when we're doing our
pickings i'm like his numbers is so gettable and he still don't even get them shits no more.
Right?
Or there's like six boards, six and six.
That used to be clockwork for him.
Now I'm looking out there like, what is Dre?
Why y'all bring him back?
Y'all got rid of a 20-point-a-night guy to keep a guy who's just going to do what?
You know, they say they're intangibles.
That's what they say about Dre Mondale. The glue guy.
He turning into UD though. He turning into a guy who's going to be there to be like a vet for
the young guys and then you put him on the floor. Remember UD stopped going on the floor because
it's like, nah, play the young guys. You know what I'm saying? I'm here when you need me.
Right, right.
I'm going to come in the game, but it ain't no disrespect, but-
It is what it is.
But if you want me here to be part of the organization, I'm here.
He ain't there yet.
That's what it feel like.
Yeah, he's not there yet.
What year is it?
14?
But he's still there.
Oh, Dre is still hooping.
He's still hooping, but he's not hooping to the point where we need you to win.
We need winning, Draymond.
We don't need existing out here just We need winning, Draymond. We don't need existing out here just
in the way, Draymond.
Everybody can't do what like Steph and Brown
and KD doing. You know, once people get past
year 11, 12, their play is going to decline.
Get your ass out of here, man. Move out. Move around.
You got to move the fuck
around. We're trying to figure out
why we losing this because, hey, man, you ain't
pulling your fucking weight. No way.
They went on the run with Draymond.
He's not pulling his weight.
It's not because of that, though.
Hey, he played better on the podcast.
He played better on the podcast.
That nigga played better on the pod.
I played better than this nigga on the game, and he played better than me on the pod.
Nigga, you an All-American.
Draymond did a good game this weekend.
12 rebounds, 13 assists. See? You know what I'm saying solid defense one game one game. They've been playing well
What's the record since Draymond got back
Jeremiah doing what he's supposed to do within his role
In 10 and 4 something like that right so the great mom was always supposed to do they would be 5
6 no I remember when they're like 10 and 4 or something like that, right? If Draymond was the only supposed to do, they would be 5, 6.
No, West.
So we're going to leave Wiggins off the hook. Wiggins.
Wiggins ain't pulling his weight.
Wiggins is giving you 15.
Nah.
This be the frustrating thing about just us when we play.
The dudes that we don't expect, right, to do things, we just don't even talk about them.
Right? Facts. that we don't expect, right, to do things, we just don't even talk about them, right?
Facts.
You know, it's like, even though Wiggins is so important to the team,
but we don't expect anything from him, we don't even mention him, right?
You know, we put so much emphasis on Draymond because it's like,
if Draymond came out and was like, yo, I just rebound, pass,
they're supposed to score, and if he put emphasis on,
he's supposed to be average at 20, he's supposed to be average at 18, we'll look at Draymond like, why are you throwing your teammates
under the bus? Right? We'll end up
doing that. Knowing that we know
Draymond don't score 20.
If he gives 10, we're like, okay,
cool. Other than that,
defend, deflections,
give about five, six assists, get some rebound.
That's what we expect, but when it don't
turn to wins, we just be like, all right,
Draymond, it's your fault. When we know there's two people on that team. That's
Struggling right now, but we considered three of those guys on that team to be Hall of Famers future Hall of Famers
That was the conversation. Yeah, Draymond was one of those guys
So for me to say you still in your prime and you still at this peak position where you in the game
You're not giving me 10 to 13 boards.
You're not giving me 7 to 9 assists.
You're not the same guy.
How are you going to get assists when two of those guys can't even score?
Who? Which two?
Klay and Wiggins.
Klay and Wiggins.
Who are you going to get assists from?
The new guy is Kaminga.
Kaminga's averaging 21-22 now.
So he's taking Wiggins' spot.
So we're no longer mentioning Wiggins because Kaminga's
now a lot. He's not getting assists from Draymond.
He can. No, he can't.
He's a slasher. Yeah, but he's getting them
off of like Steph. He's getting them.
No, no. Draymond's giving him the lob.
Out of the pick and roll with Steph,
it goes to Kaminga now.
From Draymond to Kaminga.
That's the pass. A lob.
That's the assist. Other than that, that's just a pass right here.
Those are assists
that Draymond would get, right?
Maybe one a game.
Maybe one or two a game.
He's getting three of those.
No, not from Kaminga.
Even the pitcher heads.
Pitcher heads to Kaminga.
Boom, boom.
That's it.
You want him to get assists.
That's not how he's getting assists.
But the difference,
they don't.
Like, Karan averaged 20, right?
Karan averaged 20.
I didn't get assists from Karan.
Well, because Karan got his own.
Yeah. Kaminga can get some of his own. Kaminga gets his own. He not getting his own like that I didn't get assists from Caron. Well, because Caron got his own. Yeah.
Kaminga can get some of his own. Kaminga get his own.
Kaminga go one-on-one, clear everybody out. He get his shit in transition.
Kaminga get the rebound and just make it.
Get his shit in transition.
But what I'm saying is, when you look at
how Steph gets the ball, pick and roll,
Draymond Green is in the middle.
Everything else is facilitated
from Draymond Green. So Dray can get his assists the middle. Everything else is facilitated from Draymond Green.
So Dray can get his assist from Kaminga because Kaminga is the only slasher.
No, you're saying he could, but he's not.
He's not, though.
That's not the way it is.
That's because they're not together.
They fucked up.
That's why they're trash.
So what do they need to do?
What are you trying to say?
What do they need to do?
They need to figure out a better lineup.
But he's still averaging six assists.
Six assists?
It's not.
What's that?
Is that good enough? Yes. Y'all still down number 10. What assists. It's not... What's that? That's good enough?
Yes.
Y'all still down number 10.
What's the better lineup, in your opinion?
I like CP in the starting lineup.
No.
With who?
With Clay, Steph.
Clay, Steph, CP.
Kaminga.
Kaminga and Draymond.
Looney.
Take Draymond and Faluni.
I'm putting Draymond and Looney together.
Who?
Dray off the bench? You said Kaminga and Looney together. And then Steph, CP. Take dream on a balloon. Yeah, I'm putting together
Kaminga and looney together and then straight on off the B and
Play and clay. Yes
Because that gives the opportunity for CP to run actions with Kaminga slashing and moving
You got looney on the board in a doghouse and you got two shooters running around
That's actually the pick and roll at the top with Looney,
the snake with CP,
now you got a mismatch with CP,
with Looney rolling,
and you got everybody else got it.
Yeah, because now you got to duck in.
You got to stop the duck.
What's so funny is,
this is Draymond's best year since 2017-18.
Yeah, I was about to say,
I don't know about that shit.
This is his best year since 2017-18.
And this is their this day worse here
What is it? No, but that's not
His dream is his fucking Jordan Poole gone. No You got to keep digging. That's what it is. We can see what's going on. That's what it is.
That's what it is.
That's true, though.
You got to keep digging.
I'm playing basketball in my career.
It's Paul.
Now we got the...
That's real.
You should have just said that in the beginning.
I'm just saying.
Let me get the Lakers.
Let me get the Lakers.
You got to get them there.
Norris, who's been more disappointed?
The Lakers or the Warriors?
I think the Lakers have been more disappointed.
Why would you say that?
I mean, AD is younger than all of those guys.
You expect him to be able to help lead the way, take some pressure off Brian.
Austin Reeves and D'Lo and those guys are all young guys that they brought them there
so that they can be able to make plays and impact winning so that the OG can get them there at the end. Yeah.
But instead, you know,
Brian having to do a lot of heavy lifting all season long.
And if they get to the play-in, he's going to have to do more heavy lifting.
And if they get past that,
going to have to face the Clippers or Denver or KD or, you know,
so which is more heavy lifting.
So I think that's more disappointing because I think those young guys,
they expect it to defend better and be more consistent. Mm-hmm
I like your rationale there. Well, we asked the chat
more disappointing Warriors or Lakers
72% said the Lakers and I asked a question
So all we gotta do is poke a nigga in the eye and he it was it was a devastating poke
I It was a devastating poke. Eye swelled up. His eye is swelled up.
It ain't fake. I'm just asking a question.
No, but I'm just saying.
Who poked it?
Why'd you say he not fake?
No, I mean, his eyes, like, closed.
That's an undeniable one.
Dirty nails.
Had him like, create.
It didn't seem like, well.
Put on some goggles.
Get your ass back out there and play, man.
Who poked him?
It was more like a hit to the face.
Yeah.
It was more like...
In the Warriors game?
Yeah.
He missed the final three quarters of the game.
Final three quarters.
Legs play the Hawks tonight.
Status is uncertain.
I had him 13 rebounds.
I had him 13, and he never got back in the game.
Yeah, he's done.
It was unfortunate for all those who did pick him.
Offensively, though,
they starting to play better,
but then now their defense
is struggling.
I don't get it.
Where's Austin Reeves at?
Where's Austin Reeves at?
Four dudes are shooting
40% from three, 15.
Where's him?
Now they losing on defense.
I don't get it.
I'm trying to figure,
where's him?
Where's the...
Hemathy?
Yeah, where's him?
No, he's been...
What's that?
13?
Austin's been...
13, 14 a game? No. He's been, oh. What's that? 13? Austin's been. 13, 14 a game?
No.
He's been like 15.
He's been like 15 to 17.
Giving me John's giddy, I'm out here, I'm not.
The defense has been dropped severely now.
There has been a regression.
Which it used to be the other way.
They wasn't shooting, but they was defending.
It's like, it's weird now.
Did y'all hear Ham's comment?
What'd he say?
What'd he say?
When he says, you know, I wanted to ask Steve Kerr,
tell us your plays so we don't have to give second effort,
second and third effort.
Oh, wow.
Just tell us what you're going to do so we don't have to.
Because he know his guy's not giving second and third effort.
I know he was joking.
I know he was joking.
Was there some truth in there. Yes
Well that don't I'm not worried about that. What I'm worrying about is
Exactly you want to know what they're doing because they have players that can put the ball in the basket offensively
No one is gonna ask you about what play you run in because we all know the play you gonna run
LeBron James go one-on-one when we have nothing else to do.
Oh, you're talking about execution-wise, how they're actually executing.
So we don't have – he's saying – ask Steve Kerr.
How is he getting those guys to get to second and third effort?
Second and third effort.
On defense.
No, he's basically saying his defense sucks because we're not giving effort after the first –
Okay, yeah, getting the second –
What I'm saying is nobody else has to worry about your offense
because your offense
don't move enough
for anybody
to answer that question.
There you go.
That's what I look at.
There you go.
Just defend the first action.
Yeah, just defend
the first action
and that's it.
I was saying the same shit.
Like, the jump passes
and it's like,
what the fuck are y'all doing
after the fucking
pick and roll at the top?
There's no actions
at all after that.
And then when you get
to those actions,
it's like, okay,
what do we do now?
I don't know why they don't... Like, I don't understand why
Bron doesn't play free throw line down
for the most...
In half court.
Like, AD, yeah, cool,
but I'd rather put...
Like, AD's not going to...
Like, unless you force AD down there,
he's not going to sit down there.
Right.
Bron, go post up down there,
turn and face.
Every time.
That saves energy. Every time. That saves energy.
Every time.
You save your energy.
Majority of the time, you're going to get hit, so you'll get better fouls versus running
full speed, and you're getting hit, and then they're like, well, you should make it.
And if you don't make it, it's like, eh.
But for the most part, you could do that against anybody.
That would save his career a lot longer.
That would change the scouting report 100%.
Every game, LeBron in the post.
What are we going to do?
What are we doing tonight?
What are we doing tonight?
Because if I'm defending the Lakers and LeBron's on the perimeter,
I'm going to take my chance.
Yeah, I'm going to take my chance.
We can load up.
We can load up.
Push him left.
Yeah.
Push him left.
No, he'll take the jump shot.
And if he does go right, he's not comfortable going to his natural hand right right well he gonna
do what he gonna do you just know that him being out there is you're not gonna
get as many fouls you know you'll play yo yo best five can stay on the court
mm-hmm he gonna steal score but like they're not gonna be able to set up
defense getting back he's gonna be shooting shots from perimeter which
normally long rebounds which which lead to fast break.
So even though he's going to do what he's going to do,
it's better for your team if he's out there.
He's better defensively.
He's down in the post below free throw line.
He's controlling pace.
He's adding up fouls.
They're getting wide open threes.
So when you make threes, you can set your defense up.
It's just a whole different thing.
Him taking threes, we're fine with you taking step back threes, you can set your defense up. It's just a whole different thing. Him taking threes, we're fine with you taking step-back threes.
Think about how much energy it exerts from going from wing to rim
when you're slashing.
He trying to get to the rim like he was in the fourth quarter.
That was a lot of energy he was exerting
just because he's coming from the wing.
But if you throw the ball inside...
And then play action, split action.
Yeah, split action.
Now I'm gettingin reeves easier buckets
you know you get torn prince in the corner now they're shooting off 40 38 it's better cleaner
shots now just the offense is all fucked they don't i sometimes like some of these dominant guys
don't understand like they want to keep playing to the strips and don't understand
like your real strength
is at another, like
Jokic, right? Jokic can sit at
the three and do the pump fake and
just like Embiid, you pass to the
three, he's going to give you the long pump fake
drive and then do some off-balance
sidestep.
Yeah, you're
going to be good doing that.
When you start going to that mid-post,
that free-throw line, doing your damage there,
that is harder. Because now when we
try to double,
we can't actually
get the ball out of your hand because
now you take one dribble,
you're in scoring range versus
pump fake, take one dribble, now you're at
the free-throw line, now you got to pass it.
Once LeBron takes one dribble in the paint, he don you got to pass it once LeBron takes one dribble in
The paint he don't got to pass it anymore. No right him Giannis like y'all take one dribble
Y'all are at the rim already
So why sit back there trying to come in using all that injury trying to that's what saved me a lot of energy
I posted like
No one realized I posted up majority of the game yet at the end of the game
I'm going ISO and one for flat and you get to see
You know, yeah, you get to see that from the highlight
But throughout the game like the reason that when you look at highlights
There's all shooting guards guarding me because I was sitting in the post on the point guard all the time
Yeah, I want to sit on the post in the point so you put the shooting guard on me.
It makes a match.
So now I can beat the shooting guard off the dribble all the time.
Now we switch our game plan.
All right, coach, we got them down here.
They can't keep hitting the point guard on me.
Now once they switch this bigger motherfucker, all right, now let's run around.
Now I can run around.
Now let's run around.
It's all about chess.
Like if you want to shoot your jumpers in the second half.
Save your legs. Save your legs. Kill to shoot your jumpers in the second half... Save your legs.
Save your legs.
Kill them in the first half in the post.
Right?
Drive early.
Drive early in the game.
You know, if you start shooting threes at the beginning of the game,
and you never drive, when the end of the game comes,
I know what you want to do.
Right.
And you get your rhythm, too, when you talk about free throws.
You get down there, you get a couple free throws,
get a couple easy buckets.
See the ball go in?
See the ball go in.
And now everybody's got to adjust to you.
But Brian, I think Brian know that, but I think throughout his career,
we've always looked at him like, why the fuck is you not in the post?
You 6'8", 250, you supposed to be in the post, period.
Loading up?
Because you can load up easier on him when he's in the post.
He's a great passer, so you would want that.
He would want that.
Like, I know I'm going to find whoever, especially if I got, like, when he was in Cleveland.
I got Kevin Love's face with fucking James Jones and Kyrie.
I got shooters.
So you can't really come fuck with me.
But now you with the Lakers, it's like, ugh, I don't really trust Taron Prince.
I don't really trust Austin Reeves out there shooting that bitch like
Well, you know, it's so funny like I really you
You realize the shooting like everything is inflated right mm-hmm shooting like the re like you can see the reason though
right
Their shots that they're getting is so wide open, right?
Like when you're talking about that swing, back in the day when we swung, swung, the guy who's wide open by himself wasn't the actual shooter.
Right.
He's open for a reason.
Yeah, he's open for a reason.
We're slow rotating.
So he's wide open.
So his 22%, that guy now is the dead shooter.
So now he's shooting 48%, 50%.
And you're like, how?
Because when we used to double and that last guy got it, he was wide open.
But he was so bad.
This guy now is the shooter.
So they done switched everything up and put the real shooter in the corner.
So now all those shots is wide open shots.
And they're really shooting at a high clip.
Most of these guys you see in there, they're wide open.
And the Lakers been making them sometimes.
It's like they switched to don't play no defense now.
They've been making them sometimes.
They used to be, they wasn't making them.
And they was playing good defense.
Now it's like, now they're making them recently they were playing good defense now. It's like Now they making them recently now they giving up, you know
But it's become an expectation now to the point and I get what Gil says like that guy's wide open
But even the guy that was wide open and couldn't shoot
We still had a sense of urgency to slow rotate on him because that was the that was our strategy
the next one now if that would now even when we play they switch that where
That guy got good enough like a Bruce Bowen or a Roger,
they could shoot that bitch right.
Now we got to run out, close out, push him off the line, right?
That meant the defense had to play harder.
That means we got to rotate faster.
These defensive players have accepted the fact that this guy's going to make it.
He's going to make it.
They're like, I'm not even about to run out there because he's
open and he shoot 42 from three but that's a whole another but that's a percentage to me
like even though you can say oh you putting grayson allen in the corner he's gonna hit that
i'm like yeah but it's 50 if he's shooting 50 he gonna he gonna miss one he might miss two
i got am i gonna take my chances or am I still gonna play defense?
You know plenty I still gotta play defense
So I'm not gonna just give him the shot cuz it's like we know one's giving this but they are they not closing out like
I want to stop him from shooting it like I want to close out and make him take one dribble and hit the two-pointer
And so we had our defensive conversations before yeah, we are you know, who's a bit you know
You know what? I don't see I've only seen it from one team
in history.
Bulls.
Bulls had a rule.
Was it Thibodeau there?
Or was that Scott Skiles?
The one where Joaquin Llewellyn was there?
And Lewaldine?
Thibs.
Thibs.
Back in
05, 06, six seven. Oh, go seven
So they used to do this thing
No matter where you are on the court
Contest yes, right now they can test everything so like if I'm shooting the three and let's say you had the free throw line
You still had to jump. Yes, and he said and I was like, yo, you're not even close to me while you're jumping.
He was like, that's our rule.
Even though we're not close to you, still jump because it gives the effect.
Yep.
It still looks like we're contesting your shot and it still makes you look.
Yes.
Like what is he doing?
So you will see like somebody's wide open.
You're this far and I'm shooting here.
You still can just jump it straight up and then doing one of those just the eye test from that guy
Jumping through off people shot because the numbers I like and that was good. The uncontested shot is no
Yeah, you get an uncontested size and every player can make that even a non shooter can make an uncle
That's a train like that. That's what you train. So just jump in even if you way over there
It's like and that's what it's a just a sentence like a little bit
But that's how we used to actually train.
Before the game, pregame, you get a little coach over.
You say, I want you to put a hand up because I want to get used to in the game.
Somebody put their hand up.
An uncontested shot is the worst form of defense.
Because you're expecting this guy to shoot it and make it.
How do I translate to the Lakers?
Because that's what I'm talking about.
They do not put a hand up.
There's no sense of urgency.
Sometimes you're shooting. That's a lot of teams. No, that's a I'm talking about. They're not putting no sense of urgency sometimes
Just practicing it and working on just contesting and closing out and getting out
to Norris's point even non shooters if you are wide open and I'm not at least trying to get a hand up at
Some point you gonna knock the shot down. Yeah, that's what I said You just got it. That's what I said only only seen Tibbs
Tibbs and them that that Bulls team consistently do it like
Consistently do it like it's just random like one person shoes. You got five guys just doing this
Okay, that was crazy they had a team where they had defensive-minded players that understood, like, why that meant something.
You could see the effect.
And the other team prior to them, I think, was the Pistons, the 0-4 Pistons.
They didn't have the consistency that you're talking about, but they understood effort.
Like, to be in front of your man when he catch the ball, regardless of where he at, close out.
Get there.
Lindsey Hunter was one of the best at it.
Close out.
Stay close.
If he coming off the pick and roll, ride the hip.
Make sure you ride him over the screen.
Like, all of the little things that kept the defense close.
So now, if I'm Rasheed and I'm Ben and I'm Tayshaun, I know if Lindsey's always connected, we got a better chance defensively because he's not lollygagging.
He's not just depending on us.
He's doing his part.
We don't see none of that
in the league right now.
There's no anchors
on the backside.
But why do you think that is?
And I know we talked
about defense last time,
but what just the...
On offense,
what was your rule on offense
against defense, right?
Move the ball
because what happens
after a few passes
well the defense is gonna stop but they're lazy yeah right so now think about teams now all offense
right so their mindset is move the ball enough the defense quits yeah because someone like the
work this is like the worst thing to do as a team right play defense for 22 seconds right a dagger messes up your morale
right 23 seconds you play good defense go down there take a quick shot to come
back on defense 22 seconds that's what right you go down for 22 seconds again
eventually that defense just starts giving up as long as the offense is consistent enough to keep moving them around knowing at some point
Like you start doing so let me just shoot the damn ball
Do you so you can shoot now Now you want to, I come
out there, you want to dribble, drive, and I got
to get back. That's what the Spurs used to do. Now my coach
is yelling at me and shit.
You look at the Utah when they did the
flex cut. Flex, flex, flex,
flex until they got a layup.
Jerry used to say, we're not shooting until you
get a layup. Because the defense
is going to visually give up. And if you came
down and shot a quick shot and they had to come back and play defense,
demoralizing. You're demoralizing.
But I also, I don't know,
I guess I'm just old school. Because I also
think it, one, defense
is about effort. It's about
I'm just going to guard you.
So I also
think it's about all
five players, not so much the coach, but I know when
we played, if we had
four players that
are playing defense, I don't
care where the shot clock is,
and that one player decides
she's not going to get out, she's not
going to contest with
two seconds on the shot clock.
But that's when the rest of us
went to that one player
and was like, listen,
you got to get your shit together.
Like, we're not going to play defense hard for 25 seconds and then let you take it easy and be like, look at the clock and say, well, it's just five seconds left, so we're good.
So you guys did that, not the coach, right?
Yeah, but I know what you're saying, but we talked about this before, but it's also that accountability.
Yeah, yeah. Where as a teammate,
I'm going to hold you accountable. I don't
really care. Like, I don't care what the coach is saying.
And we're doing that in the time
out, right? Yeah. But in the time out, we're like, yo,
the shit that
Mario Thomas tried to hold LeBron
accountable, like, hey, man, you're acting like
a little bitch right now. Woo, woo, woo.
That's the shit you say at a time out if
you felt like you'd want to hold your teammate accountable. right now. Woo, woo, woo. That's the shit you say at a time out if you felt like you'd want to hold
your teammate accountable.
But now,
now,
now we got to
what the real problem is then.
We care more about
what our players,
each other thinks
versus the coach.
Right.
Right?
So if there's no defense
being played,
it's the team themselves
not trying to hold each other
accountable yep right this is this is a whole different era right you say some
you say something to a dude now he might mentally check out for a week that's it
right like that's it and that's the problem that start with the best players
though that's the problem That start with the best players though. That's a lot of problem
Can't say number one who could would shake out what if I say something you would be out of there? Well, yes So now that's true. You'll be honest now now what happens with Draymond green?
Mmm. See now you see where that Draymond now
becomes the
Check check check
Yeah
So when he starts getting penalized for doing all his check
and keeping everybody like,
stop that dumb shit, this, then this,
even though it's really aggressive.
He don't get penalized for that.
He goes overboard.
I know he goes overboard.
But for the most part,
when we go to every team,
who is that guy?
There's only a few.
Jimmy Butler.
Yeah.
Right?
We have Pat Bev.
Kyle Lowry can do it a little bit. He could but you know for the most part
Yeah, Russ Russell do it, but you see but but you see how he did it in leaders
It is a word right right?
So if you don't have guys that can really police it becomes I'd rather just babysit cuz I don't want to mess up you
What's a in Orlando in Orlando? It was like that. Yep, right? It was when I'd rather just babysit because I don't want to mess up your website. In Orlando, it was like that.
Right?
When I was in Orlando, we had Stan Van Gundy.
Right?
Stan Van Gundy was so hard on the players.
The players was just babysitting each other.
You didn't want to be hard on each other.
We didn't want to be hard on him.
It's like somebody didn't get back on defense or took a horrible shot.
We know Stan was going to kill him, so we didn't say nothing.
Like Turk, right?
Turk was probably the overall, the most, besides Dwight and Jermier, when it came to everyone
succeeding, Turk was the dude, right?
He's a spoon-feeder.
Yeah, he can spoon-feed.
He's tall, 6'10".
He can make the passes back door very fucking smart
Yeah, right can hit the shot. He he had the most overall talent
Mm-hmm, but he was lazy. Yeah, right. Yeah
As much as we want to say yo get that shit, let's go we need you
It was one of those things like I will rather take him at 50%
Yeah, sit there and park sit there and say some shit and he goes to 25%.
Yeah.
Right?
So it was more of just babysitting the guys and that's what the era's doing.
Everyone's so sensitive that everyone would just sit back and just,
all right, you ain't really got to play D.
Because Kyrie would have before, like, you would say something to Luka,
like, come on, man, we're trying to fucking win games.
Let's get it together.
And Luka's like, oh, well, I don't want to play with him no more.
But Kyrie can't say it unless he's doing it.
No, that's true.
Kyrie got to do it.
It's like that used to be the thing.
If you're going to say something to somebody, you got to be doing it.
You got to be the nigga out there busting your ass saying, man, I'm out here.
I'm diving on the loose ball.
What are we doing?
That was the KG.
KG would be out there.
That's why he was the best player.
The best player, though.
When your best player is willing to give some effort...
He has to be your best player.
Like, overall, like, basketball,
the best players always had
some form of defense
for the most part.
For sure.
Like, now we got guys
that's the best player,
but it's like a...
They can't play a lick of defense.
Yeah, like the open gate
for defense.
Oh, man.
Think about the energy KG brought.
That was an energy
that he knew he had.
It was a facade.
It wasn't like,
oh, I'm...
Like, he told me,
like, I came in like this
and I couldn't let it up.
I could never...
After the day
I showed this energy,
I had to bring it every time.
Even when I didn't
want to bring it
because this was my character.
So when you see that
from your best player,
it's like it's a
trickle-down effect, right?
But then the other players, when it's time for him to hold everybody accountable,
hey, man, what the fuck is we doing out here?
You can't say KG not playing hard.
Right.
Because we see it out there.
Now, if you're looking at Luka, and Luka's trying to criticize somebody,
he's like, bro, but you didn't even box out.
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't even fuck.
It's three straight line drives in a row.
We've been keeping count, bro. What you didn't even box out. Yeah. You didn't even... It's three straight line drives in a row. We've been keeping count, bro.
What you saying?
Kyrie the same way.
Like, if y'all going to criticize, you got to do...
Grant Williams got his ass out of there.
Why?
Because he wanted to challenge them niggas.
He came from Boston Championship Pedigree.
And I can challenge Jason Tatum.
I can challenge Jacob Brown.
And they're going to respond.
And I'm trying to challenge Luka, and we go one-on-one.
He torched me, right?
But Luka didn't like that challenge.
But it's also different.
To your point, if you're coming in with a championship mentality and mindset,
then you can be that Grant Williams.
For someone who's never won, right,
they just get complacent in doing things the way they've always done it
and say well why should i change now right to them it's worked but hasn't really because you
haven't won a championship he rubbed them the wrong way they sit down in dallas they say he
rubbed the wrong but in boston it looked like it was working but that's what she's saying like he
didn't win a championship so they didn't respond the same way because you not know championship
But everybody just got you play, but he got there though. You got lived in the finals
There was no different with Jimmy Butler right right when Jimmy was in Chicago
They didn't like the rah-rah from him right right in the solar day and then Minnesota
Chicago dating like remember no Chicago. They said he was a bad a locker room guy that was at the end
Yeah, it's all said he was a bad locker room guy. That was at the end. Yeah. Whenever you trade a dude, you're a bad locker room guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was Tiz's guy.
Yeah, yeah.
Because Tiz was gone.
That's how you say it.
You never heard that when Tiz was there.
You only heard that when Tiz was gone.
That's when you say it.
That was Fred Hoiberg.
Fred Hoiberg.
Punk-ass Fred.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Punk-ass Fred.
I played with Fred.
Yeah, he was in Minnesota.
Yeah.
Fred didn't know how to deal with Jimmy.
Then you go to Boston.
I mean, then you go to Minnesota. They didn't know how to deal with Jimmy. Then you go to Minnesota.
They say the same thing.
Then you go to Miami, and then you're loved.
You're a winner.
Even in Philly, you're a winner because you're winning.
What ends up happening, there's more loser mentalities on the team than there are winners.
It is.
Right?
Way more.
Yes.
So it's easier for them to say, yo, we don't like the way he's talking to us and this
That Laker team that had cold remember it was remember all of me young boys like we'll want cold on the team
Yes, he's my job Randall and all them Randall
Yeah, it was like oh
Yeah, all right y'all we go we go we gonna do this y'all babysit babysitting the lazies. Right? Because what happens is because there's levels to this and levels to just winning, unless you're around a guy who's been there, who's seen it, who's done it, you don't know what it looks like.
And sometimes when someone's demanding something from you that you are not ready to accept, you can't even envision it. You can't even envision it.
Like when Pat Bev went over to Bigfella.
We're going to run some 17s after.
What? We don't do that
over here.
We've never done that.
What are you even talking about?
I have success doing the way I'm doing.
He's like, no, 17s got to get in better shape.
You got to do this. And then, okay, he's
going to run and run and run. And he's seeing the best year of his
career. He's seeing what's happening. So now he's going to start implementing that into his
career. But if you don't have those guys that take it to the next
level, it kind of makes you want to
keep them at bay versus he's taking it.
So you guys talked about Kyrie and Luka
on the defensive side. Let's talk about them on the
offensive side with a little bit of hibachi time.
Yes, sir. We could cook on
that subject all day. All day.
My lord.
Look at those defense.
Hey, interrupting. We are
sizzling, but it's time
for some hibachi.
So, Nuggets are the hottest
team in the league since the All-Star break,
but the Mavs dynamic duo cooled them off Sunday.
We got some highlights that we want to show you.
Hey, yeah.
Did I say it? Kyrie said it.
Kyrie got a chip.
Wow.
Kyrie got a chip.
That's risky, bro.
Like, what?
So, Luka Magic was the full effect of Slovenia sensation put up 37 and 9
Kyrie was doing this thing to
Nobody what you wanted to see from this crew
When they made the trade last season to Kyrie to Dallas and he resigned with the team this offseason
You do the same move and then you still can look at 37 and 9 like I said
including this game tying three. The Mavs almost tricked
off a fourth quarter leading the game. Luka tied it up setting the stage for Kyrie to
give us one of the most ridiculous game winners in NBA history. Running left handed hook over
Jokic at the buzzer. To give the Mavs a much needed win. We have multiple angles of this
thing to show y' you just how ridiculous it was
Yeah, must we talk about these are some dudes a special office
Show me I'm just two of the most special catcher ever seen the best defense is a great office
how
Joker couldn't believe it the Mavs couldn't believe it. I'm not sure if I Rika but he does work on that
And those are Muslim layups you seen was left in I would I was told y'all in a group chat. That was me
I would have hit the whole
Team with the left. Yeah, I came brought in the mud. It would have came right hit hit all
Hit all over that have been a straight Denver sideline pass
Wow, we got some real hoopers here on this couch. How ridiculous was Kyrie's left-handed hook shot at the buzzer?
No, that's impressive.
I'm not even going to...
That's impressive.
Offhand, accurate, from about what?
18, 19 feet?
Over...
Over a seven-footer.
Yeah.
Over a footer.
For all the marbles, too, that was...
You know?
That was crazy.
Yeah.
He's so gifted.
I mean...
Yeah. Him and Lugar are two of the most gifted when it comes to offense, putting the ball in the basket.
Because he could have got a foul, too.
If he would have went with the right.
They wouldn't be calling that.
You don't think so?
He would have ran right into his body.
That's the Joker right there.
I don't know if they're calling that.
Was it a switch at the end?
Yes.
Joker switch.
It's a tight curl.
I'm thinking tight curls straight to the rim.
Did he have that much time?
That was out of bounds.
2.8.
Remember, he faked it, and then he went wide.
So he almost was about to go tight curl,
but then he just went out.
So he had two more seconds.
Nah, he tight curled because he almost
got the run on the basket.
Oh, and as soon as he caught it, no, he had to dribble.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
They switched.
He dribbled.
Then he has he dribbled. He had time to get to the basket. He had That's what I'm saying. They switched. He dribbled. Then he has to dribble.
He had time to get to the basket.
He had time to get to the basket.
Play it again.
Play it again.
Play it again.
Give us one second while we cue that up.
And fast forward all the way to the, you know, we have almost modern technology.
That's what you said.
That was risky.
The first one.
Wow.
That wasn't 20 feet. Right here. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, risky. Uh-huh. The first one. Wow. Yeah.
That was a 20.
Okay, right here.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now he couldn't have got to the basket.
How much time was left when he, I mean, before-
2.8 seconds left in the game.
2.8?
Yeah.
Rewind.
Right.
All right, let's see where he catch it.
Right there.
He had caught a tough angle. he catch it. Right there.
He caught it on the baseline.
And the switch was late, too.
Yeah.
He caught it on that baseline. He almost went out of bounds right there.
2.8.
Yeah, see, he forced him wide.
Yeah, see, and Luka's diving, too.
Yeah, he can't get to the high.
If he had run with his right, he couldn't go to his right, either.
Looking for the foul?
No.
Yeah, 21 feet.
Yeah, that's the only play to make. When you watch it again, yeah. Listen, that is. Yeah, 21 feet. Yeah, that's the only play
to make.
When you watch it again.
Listen, that is a hell of a shot.
That's crazy.
That shit is wild.
That's the only play to make.
And for him to be aware
of the time
and knowing
where the defender is,
that is a hell of a shot.
Yeah.
And that was actually
good defense, too.
It was.
Like, contest,
hand on ball.
And he jumped. He really jumped on that like
Kyrie, I think if he tries to shoot it what is right it gets blocked in blood for so for sure
I don't think he I don't think he's he's coming across of you to straight up. He's coming across that all with a foul
Yeah, he would have out he would go go go go
So Kyrie in the midst of Ramadan.
40 minutes.
No food, no water.
Yeah, snap right there.
You see it?
One, two.
One, two right there.
Yeah, if he put up with his right.
Oh, yeah, that's a foul.
He could have baited him.
Yeah.
Legs out.
Wait, stop.
Boom.
One, two, right there.
Man, that's almost a college three.
Yeah, that is almost a college three.
And Michael Porter would have fouled him, too. That's a college three. That's a college three. That's old school. Wow. That's a college three? And Michael Porter would have fouled him too.
That's a college three.
That's a college three.
That's old school.
Wow.
That's crazy.
Old school college three.
I think they moved up.
We see you, Kyle.
We see you, Uncle Drew.
Hey, man, that's nice.
Even with my right hand, I would have probably hit the back of the back.
How many tries would it take you to make that shot?
On somebody guarding me like that?
It's tough.
Maybe one for ten.
I ain't going to lie. You don't use your left right hand. I was going to say one for ten. Oh, you meant left? Left It's tough maybe one for ten. I ain't gonna lie. You don't use your left
I was gonna say one for all you man left left. Oh, oh for ten. Oh for ten
I'm probably what I probably would. I'm 0 for all day.
That far out though?
That's far.
0 for all day.
Like mid-middy?
That's an easy jump.
Right?
Like he wasn't even in the paint.
Like he's at the college three.
It's for a reason.
Where does Kyrie shot rank?
That's some cold shit.
I might have hit the rim twice.
I had a bunch of air balls.
Yeah. Where does Kyrie shot rank amongst the best game winners that you've seen obviously score was tied. Yeah
I know you always are big on
If it's tied, there's a little less pressure but to be able to make that mass desperate for a win
It's the top team in the West
Listen, you know, I got my damn turnaround. Top two, top three.
Because I turned around on them on a game winner.
But that's regular season.
Yours is regular season.
Yours is regular season, top two.
Martin Luther King Day, though.
Martin Luther King.
Martin Luther King Day.
That has a little bit more. That has a little bit more. It might be the top one. Because the way you did it, it was all. Like this right here my
Moving seven foot like contested all that's contested. Yeah for regular season s that's nice
The degree of difficulty is what make it
So tough they needed to win to
Yeah, Ramadan like and Ramadan, oh, yeah, that's the even why play 40 minutes. Yeah, no food
Yeah, I got it. Yeah, that's tough. He might be in front of him. I got you know, my like history
I mean, you know got black history in it Ramadan. I go. Okay. Okay
But you he ain't
Black
Fool when I did my shit and I mean he had no Gatorade powder no nothing no energy
Yeah is impressive you in front of me and you found me some leaves or something in front of you in front of me
Sneak in the Sprite he got caught you allowed to eat some leaves or something? You in front of me. Yeah, you in front of me. You can't eat nothing. You seen the video of Brut sneaking a Sprite.
He got caught.
He tried to sneak a Sprite. This boy busted him out.
What's the penalty?
You know.
What's the penalty?
Eternal damnation.
Eternal damnation.
What's the penalty?
Who called me?
Who called me?
Who told?
Who told on me?
How do you find out?
We got a mostly.
It was just a rice cake.
We got a mostly fans question from underdog user DC room 93
D crew 93, excuse me
Best all-time offhand ambidextrous shooter Kyrie Kobe or Larry Bird
Larry legend
40 40
Whole game of it not one or two shots
It wasn't the whole game it was 20 plus points of it Gil
Hold that and told him he was gonna do
Atlanta Hawks hold that
Pull up jumpers off the last runner left of stuff Little runners left hand Yeah He was cooking them cats
Imagine how good you have to be
Just be like
I'm going offhand today
I'm bored
That's cold
Right
That's cold
And you
Not just a couple shots
And you can't stop me
And you're not going to do anything about it
But you foul me
And you try to take me out
With my right shoulder
Yeah
And I refuse to go to the locker room
Yes
And I'm going to
I'm going to keep cooking
Jeez
Damn
You try to take me out
I know the rest of my squad Will not have to check this out. I got a whole
You know what's so funny man and Whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck was that? Avenger mode. What the fuck was that?
You know what's so funny, man?
And that just, that has to be equated to people's greatness.
That we just fucking take for granted, right?
Like, you know, like even just thinking about it, like, take it for granted. Like, we don't have Larry as a top ten.
He doesn't.
Who don't?
Oh.
No, but for the most part just the one game
where he says I'm bored I'm going all that I'm going all left-handed everybody
I'm gonna beat y'all with my left hand and then goes out there and bust you
bush let you know he had a whole left-hand game that he didn't even activate. And then same thing with Kobe.
Alright, I'm done. Now I'm not.
Do, do, do. Let's go.
And then plays the real thing. You got to turn it on.
You got to activate it.
I got to activate it because you know what I mean?
And then actually shows you
left handed game like it's
been part of his arsenal the whole time.
That lets you know how gifted
people are. There's one other player
in the NBA that might be able to do that, but he's not
even a real scorer. Mike Conley could do that.
Mike Conley is the most unpredictable player
in the NBA.
He shoots left and right hand.
She could do it too.
There's a few.
Mike was right handed.
Mike was right handed. Plays everything
right handed. Just shot left. Mike. Mike Conley-handed. Mike was right-handed, plays everything right-handed, just shot left.
Mike. Mike Conley.
Okay.
In high school, he would do both.
He would shoot left and right-hand, show off on you.
You know who...
Yes.
Ben Simmons.
I want to see Ben Simmons shoot right.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Have you ever seen him do a right-hand hook?
Yeah.
I think Ben Simmons...
I don't want him to shoot.
I think Ben Simmons...
I want to see him shooting.
No, no, no, no.
I want to see him finish.
Just finish.
No, I think Ben Simmons is right-handed, dog.
Like Tristan Thompson.
Like Tristan Swift.
Tristan switched in the middle of his career.
You know, I'm left-handed.
This is missing it.
Let me go right. He shot better right-handed. Shot better. He shot better his career. You know, I'm left-handed. This is missing it. Let me go right.
He shot better right-handed.
He shot better right-handed.
He might shoot better right-handed.
But anything is going to be better.
It's just weird that some of these guys, like, what's the name, right-handed?
Michael Beasley was right-handed.
Now, Beasley can score with both hands.
I know, but he's right-handed.
He's naturally right-handed.
And he just shoots with both hands. I remember he did something. He washanded. He's naturally right-handed. And he just shoots with the...
I remember he did something, he was throwing it and somebody blocked his left and
he took it right in.
Wow!
No, he MP2.
Yeah.
But not from shooting.
But I think he's right-right-handed.
I don't know.
He was my team.
I never see him right, though.
He might be.
Right played left.
LeBron was lefty playing right.
He's the best picker right there.
He top five picker player I've seen.
LeBron, he does everything left, but he plays right.
I think Michael Beasley did everything right, but played left.
Yeah. Right played left. LeBron was lefty playing right. LeBron does everything left.
He does everything left, but he plays right.
I think Michael Beasley did everything right, but played left.
So back on the subject of Kyrie,
Team USA is already looking like it's nine deep
with Bronstaff, KD, MB, Tatum, D-Book, and Drew Holiday.
Expected to be the fourth.
You said eight deep or nine deep?
Excuse me, I'm reading.
No, I was like, I thought you said nine, but I heard eight.
That's why there's a dot, dot, dot on the script,
and I'm continuing.
And Ant-Man and Halliburton expected to be on the squad
as well.
Be the only hold up.
Makes it nine?
It makes it nine.
Three spots remaining.
So we're AD still, like I said.
Hold on, let me count.
One, two, three.
So, Bron, if you want to hold your fingers up.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Steph, KD, EmbiD MB Tatum D book drew holiday
Amen Halliburton Right, right. We're not calling him. You got to put another nigga on the squad. We're not calling him.
He's so angry.
Right, right, right.
I was like, why do I have more fingers?
Right, that's what I did.
He took it right down.
He was like.
I watched him.
He was like, nah.
Nah, I don't want to.
Nope.
I'm going to take Drew because he's a Valley dude, so we need a Valley dude.
We need a Valley dude.
We need a Valley dude representing 818.
Oh, wow.
We need San Fernando Valley representation.
Right up the crib.
So essentially, but that's barring injury, but three spots remaining.
Kyrie wants to be on that squad.
So according to Shams, Kyrie has a deep desire to represent his country in Paris this summer.
Does Kyrie deserve a spot on Team USA for the Olympics this summer?
Cheryl, I'll start with you.
100%.
Okay.
Why do you feel like 100% that Kyrie deserves to be on the team?
Well, when I look at the roster that you just named,
first of all, they need a player like Kyrie.
I won't even talk about what he just did,
but Kyrie, I think for me,
it's just the international experience
and what it takes to compete at that level in the olympics i think
kairi has has that extra something that extra bit of dog in him that some of the players you named
are lacking and then just his talent level alone kairi kairi is a bucket. They need another scorer on that team
Good you feel like Kyrie deserves a spot on Team USA. This deserves I think
Everyone deserves a fair chance, right? You know, this is talking about
like a team right the fact that they're picking teams and no one's tried out is
Yeah The fact that they're picking teams and no one's tried out is... Yeah, that's different.
You're about to get Gil going again.
No, I'm just saying...
Why you got to...
No one tried.
Like, everybody, you got a whole list of people that you named,
and then you are taking people off, and there's not even been a tryout.
So, you know...
Because you know.
So no one really...
They don't need to have a tryout.
No, you got to have a tryout.
He went through the tryout. I went a try. He went through the trial.
I went through it.
I went through a tryout.
Yeah.
I went through trials too.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't need a tryout.
So like somebody like Trey Young will be looking at somebody like, why did you pick?
Why?
And I was the point of it.
If I can't even go against the guy to show you who ain't that good.
Right.
So the fact that it's not a tryout and you we have names.
It's also about matching, though.
You got to put talent out there that match and don't just put talent because we did that.
But that's what a tryout is about.
We did.
No, but we did that before.
And it did work.
No, no, no, no.
We've never had a tryout.
It's been just like this.
You put pieces on there that you think is going to versus letting them try out and see who plays well with each other.
Yeah.
Right?
That's not what we're doing.
We're doing exactly how we're doing it right here,
and then you're putting names and putting people you think,
oh, this person would fit with this person.
You guys never played basketball, and if you did,
most of these guys you have, they don't even mesh.
Most of them?
Not most.
Sometimes we get it wrong. The best players like what players are gonna overcome and take you to
Go fit with them guys. Did he fit with them guys or did he adjust here just some guys and that's what they
Adjusted to him, but think about it. Oh, just a cold. He from his side
But how do you not put Kobe on the team?
No, no, no.
You have him on the team originally.
No, that's because he didn't want to be.
They had to go call him.
I'm about to say, the other teams he told not to.
Kobe was like, I ain't got time.
And then they called him.
He was like, we need you.
All right.
We need you.
But think about it.
We're saying it, right?
We have the best players.
You called the best players adjusted to each other.
Stars figured it out.
All right, you're going to do this role.
I'm going to do this role.
We're going to sacrifice.
The stars did it.
They didn't already bring in sacrifice pieces that's already diluted.
So now this guy is just a rebounder.
But when we pass it to him, we need him to score today,
he can't even do that, right?
So now Cole, who averages 30, 35,
saying, oh, we just need defense and maybe spot shooting today,
he can adjust his game to do that, right?
That's what Cole did.
That's what the Dream Team did.
That's what Dream Team 2 did.
Now we're predetermining who's going to be sacrificed. That's what the dream team did. That's what dream team to did now the dream now. We're
predetermining who's gonna be sacrifice yeah, yeah
Game the game the game everyone needs to do something different. Yeah, Kobe you might be the star today
D Wade might be the star tomorrow now LeBron might be the started this week because the way the games are being played now You're already bringing in pieces that
They mess yeah, I think everybody on that team gonna mesh right there
You think that's a matching squad, but do you think I mean like Kyrie but like Kyrie does deserve to be on it
Is he gonna be on it? Probably not. Yeah, you think not one? Yes
International you he said should
Yeah, I think he should yeah, do I think they'll put him on the team
No, I don't why don't Ky think they'll put him on the team?
No, I don't.
Why don't?
Kyrie is our best international guard in the United States of America.
Because he went with the Chinese?
Because of other stuff that really shouldn't happen.
Normally that do matter.
So Trey either?
So Trey don't get a chair over Holly?
I think Trey deserves over Holly.
Trey who?
Trey Young?
The international ball is different, y'all.
It is.
You can't just be no liability out there like that like how Trey would be in and out
And that's what liability would be different defensively
Holly Holly play better defense or something. No just
But I'm just saying from a to me from a defensive standpoint
They will expose that yeah
No, not when you got KD, LeBron.
You got a big line-up.
But you don't need him out there, though.
You wouldn't need Kyrie then.
They're the same player.
They're not the same.
What's the difference?
Kyrie Irving has won world championships.
But defensively, what's the difference?
Kyrie's a better defender.
No.
No. He is. To be honest, I think. Well, he's played in the National Bowl before, What's the difference? Kyrie's a better defender. No Oh
Be honest to be honest. I played well
He's a player before and he's played in the finals before and you don't and the experience
So you get that high level competition?
Defensive player when you got a bunch of
No real talk
When you have a bunch of defensive pleasure when I was the USA team, I was damn near the best defensive player.
Because I got all defense.
I got Kirk Heinrich with me.
I got Dwight back there.
I got Bruce Bowen with me.
So my defense in heightened.
I'm taking charges.
Never took a charge like that.
Because we asked of you.
Asked them.
I took the most charges in the USA.
You couldn't even come through the lane because that's all I need to do because everybody else tired
No, no, but that's right. Oh does he play defense? We're not getting me off the point. We're talking about Kyrie Irving. I'm talking about Kyrie Irving.
Kyrie Irving deserves to be on the team,
and he should be our starting point guard for Team USA.
That's what Kyrie should be.
If Kyrie go to Team USA and play defense, right?
You don't need him to be the stopper.
But if he plays defense, he plays actually,
and I say, damn, Ky, what the fuck was that defense
during the fucking season, bro?
You can say that, but he going to look around like,
I got FIBA basketball.
The court is smaller.
The rules are different.
Everything is different.
You're not playing defense in the regular season.
FIBA basketball is different, bro.
FIBA basketball is different.
Why are you?
Because you can play zone.
You can play.
I play defense.
Right, so you playing defense with him backing you
will be a lot better than you playing defense
with me
My what was the one I because we national ball too and I know for a fact the guard is waiting
Y'all explain it or where the way he's talking about it. I know that that's being
Inflated because you can hide motherfuckers and defense in the international ball. Yeah, there's a God's own you got
Especially you got a big
back line. A big back line,
we're making you drive.
That's not our gift for Team USA playing zone, though.
That's what other
countries do because they can't play.
We don't do that.
They will post up a little guy.
They will find a way to manipulate it and post
that up. Because we're not having that.
We're not having that. And if they do post a little guard, it's only to pass for the three. They're not doing it to manipulate it and post that up and we're not having that but we're not having that if they do post
A little guard is only to pass for the three. What's the reason? I'm not doing it to the post this school
I guess not like he's going to be coming. He's not
Unless he's guarding like Luca or someone like that the point guard position
That area no one's trying to score 30 they run they run picks in the up screens and rip screens
They don't got a whole bunch of big-ass guards They run picks and up screens and rip screens to get the finishes.
They don't got a whole bunch of big-ass guards internationally. No, but everybody sets screens, though.
And if you little and can't get through screens,
the international game, bro, if you a little cat and you getting screened,
you are a liability.
It's an excuse.
Other teams got little guys, too.
Like who?
They not got little guys like you.
Listen, every team got a mismatch opportunity, whether it's a fucking three or four or five.
Because we can't take advantage of it because we sit in zone.
They sit in zone.
Exactly.
Right?
So they sit in zone.
And they play the FIBA game all year long, bro.
We play man to man.
That's why we got to have guys that play FIBA.
We play man to man and switching. So it's easy for us to get a switch and then they take advantage of our yes
It's easier for them when we have little guys, but we try to be taller
So when we switch we're not out of this there was not one moment
I think right was where they was posting up Jalen have you seen?
Wasn't posting up Jalen Brunson like that. No, no, you're right. You're right. That's what I'm saying
We're not little though, but he right. But Brunson's not little, though. Brunson's
200 and whatever pounds.
He's still little.
If you want to trip over.
Trae Young is 6'1"?
Maybe. Maybe. That's not little.
He's not Kyle, bro.
We're not about to put Trae Young and Kyle
in the same level. We're not about to do that, bro.
No, but look. I'm going to pick him over
Holly. No, but what I'm saying is at the end of the day, no
No chance rose try yeah, I watch how the bird playing the feeble she's not so what who Halliburton
You know, but it was that they lost it and niggas got beat
But it went nothing, you know why that was you know, why I wouldn't you my one use I wouldn't use Holly on that team because
What Holly skill is he need guys that catch and shoot back? That's not that's why I'm right same thing
But this ray fits because Trey could just be a shooter and someone who can just shoot pass the ball
Same thing with Kyrie Kyrie Kyrie could just be a score and what so those those two would fit better. Kyrie would do everything.
No, that's what I'm saying.
But I'm talking about just logistically, he has a new shoe.
Ky.
He has a new shoe company.
And Nike's not doing that.
Nike- Ky is the only point guard that has played
with Kevin Durant, LeBron James, all the names that you named on there, Ky didn't play world
championships and won world championships with all of them.
You got to have Ky on there. With Nike championships and won world's him so with all yeah, you gotta have
When I keep yeah matter being like me and I you know more and I feel what you said
But it's the kind got to be on the team, bro
We not if he's not there our best guards are not there. Yeah, Kai is our best international guard
You know, you know, they be getting you know, Nike be getting pressured to have
other companies
Yeah, they begin prayer like yo y'all can't just have an all-nike team y'all got to put at least we got one
Yeah, but right now they're doing you say got to get our pride back and show the world that they not catching up to
So we got to send our best
Under Armour.
Where's Steph Curry?
In comparison.
We got under armour.
Who's schedule?
About the same.
He's not later right now.
Did they say Embiid is on it or did he say he wanted to be on it?
Embiid said he wants to play.
The dude you named
That's just the expected core barring injury. Did they say Embiid is on it or did he say he wanted to be on it? Embiid said he wants to play. The dude you named, though, is...
That's just the expected core barring injury.
So Embiid could very well...
Wait, wait, wait.
Say that again.
So is this a core that said they want it or this is the core that USA said this is...
This is according to Shams' release.
Those dudes are locked in.
Expected to be the core of the team.
So Embiid...
Sketchers.
So he's out.
He's not going to...
So now we're down to eight.
He's not going to be healthy.
No, he's not going to...
He's not going to be healthy. He's not going to be healthy.
For my country.
But that's what I'm saying.
When you're talking about...
That's going to add for AD, Bam.
AD would be on there.
Bam would be on there.
100%
They need to be.
Big Bam fan.
Bam is what, Nike?
Yeah.
AD's Nike, right?
Yeah, so Skechers is gone.
We already have an Under Armour. Bam's going to don't think that we already had we already have an under armor
I'm gonna be on it no matter what cuz we were away. We already have an under armor. Whoo. Okay, we are do we have an adidas guy?
He's shaky. Yeah, it was Jimmy with Nike
Was that open enough for now Jimmy not with Nike no more. Where do you work? I think Jimmy got me now, huh?
Me he ain't on there. Thank you with the knee now. So you say it's Sam and
for the big man, but
many others you'll ADAD
Now I don't know who the other one. Well
I'm over JJ triple J Apollo Jackson. Wait, who is their upcoming? Who's their upcoming?
Golden kid follows. It's only 21 years old
Probably
Always they got to put one of their young.
Palo's one of the young ones.
Palo's one of the young ones.
And Halle Berry's one of their young stars.
Yeah, yeah.
He's one of their young ones.
So those are the next ones that'll get a signature shoe?
Yeah, probably.
Palo or him?
Then one of those is going to be on there.
Palo.
I'm sorry to say, but you're talking about the world.
But the names they name are the... When you got KD Brown... My product is getting being seen in the world. It's the world. The names they name are when you got KD,
Brian. My product is being seen
in the world.
It's the world.
It's time for like,
you're talking about global,
global recognition too.
Like,
yeah.
So Gil,
we have a question for you.
Boom.
Okay.
You don't like Kyrie or something?
Got you.
You don't like Kyrie or something?
Uh,
I'm just waiting for him to...
Because you saw him play
in the World Championship before,
right?
I know.
And he did his thing,
bro,
he was like...
I'm just waiting for him to... International Kai, I'm talking about did his thing quick, bro. He was the, like...
International Kai, I'm talking about.
Because international ball is different. Like, Carmelo was different
in international ball. Huh?
I said, like, Carmelo was different in international ball.
He took it up a notch.
He took it up a notch. Guys who can shoot the ball,
shoot the ball, and you
sitting in the zone, you do need
zone busters. Because if you were three men
in the NBA, you were four men in international. So you're a three-man in the NBA, you're a four-man international.
You're a big mismatch. Melo's a huge
mismatch.
If you've got
a jumper-jumper,
that's why I said...
If you're a mid-range shooter, because the international line is a
mid-range for the NBA players.
Melo and them cats shooting that mid-range...
I'm picking Trey over Holly, because Trey got
the bitty. He got the full game and the jump.
Listen, they both can play well for the international because of what they do good.
If we be in real life.
But Holly has to be a shooter.
Holly is a shooter.
No, no.
Not like Trey.
No, what I'm saying is Holly has to be just a shooter.
What I'm saying is he has to be a shooter.
He can't be sitting there playing his NBA style. Yeah, pump faking.'m thinking doing all this driving it did not he's not gonna had a ball like that
He is gonna have a ball no second unit. He is no he is
Booker had a ball more than him
right now all right the the
name for bronze Steph KD and be Tatum D book drew holiday
No name who will be on the second unit drew drew holiday. So he's probably and Halliburton a and wait
So no drew and who else Halliburton be there? I mean if it's not there you
Drew and uh-huh
Pride be booked if you had a book finger more. Yes, he
So the Holly knows your back up. Third back up.
Drew makes sense because he's not going to have the ball in his hand.
Yes, he's got to play.
You've got to have a lockdown.
He's going to play defense.
You've got to have it.
So, he's just going to be there.
So, Holly is not going to be in that lineup for the season.
So, you need to catch and shoot.
So, that's what's up.
Holly has to catch and shoot or Trae Young?
Catch and shoot.
Better than Trae Young.
He can catch and shoot better than Trae Young.
What?
Stop.
Put it in the tab.
Who catches?
Who catches better?
Who catches better?
How are you catching?
You don't like Trae Young?
I don't know.
No, he's not that.
No, he got game.
But he don't catch and shoot better than Trae Young.
When you're saying catch and shoot, you're saying catch and shoot.
Trae Young don't.
I don't know.
He don't catch and shoot.
Because all his shots come off the dribble, so you don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know.
I don't know that one.
So, we got a question for you.
I don't think you like.
Trae Young catches and shoot?
Yes.
What's the difference between the two?
It's a big difference between those two. What's the you like... Yes. What's the difference between the two?
It's a big difference between those two.
What's the difference?
Like you're...
What's the difference?
Because we don't...
Trae Young and Steph Curry
are both shooters.
Dead eye.
No, they're not.
Dead eye.
Stop saying he's a dead eye.
I mean, he's a dead eye.
Because we don't see it often
because he always
shoot off the dribble.
That's what I'm saying.
We always see him
off the dribble,
so we don't know.
Trae can shoot,
but don't say he likes Steph, though.
If DeJounte had the ball in his hands and Trey went to the off ball, we would see him coming off the curls.
The percentages don't support your argument.
Because he don't do it.
The percentages don't support your argument.
You know what?
So, like this.
Like, Lonzo Ball, right, was bad off the dribble shooting.
Spot of shooting.
He always been great.
People's looking at the total.
Can't be no casual.
They looking at his total three-point percentage and said, oh, he's bad three-pointer.
No, no, no, no, no.
He might be shooting like in the teens moving, spot up.
He was shooting about 40, high 40s.
But nobody knew it because he was always with the ball in his hand.
So it's kind of hard to know unless you
just look at... We know if you're a shooter,
you know that Trey Young can shoot the fucking ball.
We're not saying he can't shoot, though.
It don't matter if he got the ball in his hand or not.
If he get an open look, it's cash.
Period.
Just like Steph Curry.
He's not a 50-40-90 guy like Steph. Steph flirts with 50-40 mean, stop saying that. With the ball or not with the ball?
He's not a 50-40-90 guy like Steph.
Steph flirts with 50-40-90 almost every year.
He getting close every year.
Trae Young shoots not 50-40-90.
42% from two.
He shoot like in the low 40 from two, bruh.
No, no, no.
I'm not talking about the two.
I'm talking about from free throw line.
Oh, no.
We just got to look at the spots.
Like, it's one of the- We go to synergy.
We just have to go to synergy for it to actually look at it.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Trae Young can shoot the goddamn ball.
So Gil, we got a question for you.
He ain't holly when it comes to that catching shoot.
If you could play for Team USA, average seven points per game and win a gold medal,
or play for a random country, average 35 points per game and not medal, what are you doing?
Where do I live?
Do I live in the USA?
Yeah, but you get citizenship. You're part Cuban, right? No, no, no, no.
I'm living in the USA.
If I'm playing for USA, then I'll take the seven points and the gold.
But I'm saying, they both come to you.
You haven't played any international ball yet.
You're in limbo.
Team USA, you can average seven points per game, win a gold medal, or let's say Cuba,
Hippolyta Arenas. What did you say? I'm taking the seven points. He was almost saying Hippolyta. I'm taking the seven points per game win a gold medal or let's say Cuba Hippolyta arenas
I'm taking I'm taking the seven people. I'm taking a leader. I'm taking the seven points on a gold. It's the gold
It's the country. Yeah, so you want the gold there? Yeah
Yeah, it's the gold it's USA it's USA
That's why that's why I don't like Mike Krzyzewski.
Because I called him and said, man, I'm one of three two-time All-Stars on the team, two-time
All-NBA on the team, and I'm telling you right now, you don't have to worry about my ego,
sacrifice, I'll play defense, whatever you need.
You don't have to worry about my scoring I know what the lineup looks like so I'm just here
just to play D you know and whatever you need that hustle type of dude right my
ego is gone I called him and said that so for them to say you on the bubble
fool boy if I do I was gonna be in a bubble I'm gonna be on a bubble my way
homeboy up straight up so I'd be on the bubble my way. That's some fuck shit too, man
You know so because you would be a stand-up nigga like
No, they didn't know that's they lost our GD
And I knew they wasn't gonna win
Cuz I seen that oh
Six cuz I knew the lineup the lineup was like our lineup, it was like we had all the-
That was Slashers.
World Championship team?
Yeah.
We had all the Slashers at the starting lineup and all the shooters, me, Joe Johnson,
you know, I think Bosh, maybe not Bosh, but we had all those guys coming off.
So the second unit was all the shooters, first was all the slashes and stuff and it should
have been more of a balance they've gotten better at that balancing out making sure that don't
happen yeah so we have a catch and shoot three point percentage this season trey young shooting
38.1 on 105 attempts tyrese halliburton shooting 40.8 on 98 attempts. 98 versus how many? 105.
They're right there.
We also asked...
It's close. It's close.
Holly's been shooting it. He's shooting it.
Yeah, he's shooting it.
We also asked the chat,
does Kyrie deserve...
Who had the higher percentage, by the way?
Who had more shots?
Four more shots?
Yeah.
That means you got a couple more shots to shoot.
It's gonna bring your percentage down.
It's gonna bring your percentage down
if you shoot a couple more.
By the way, we're up.
We're up.
Because you're taking more shots.
The defense.
Depends on the defense.
Both of them.
Both of them are tough.
Are they contested?
You know what I'm saying?
How many more shots is it?
Seven more attempts.
Seven more attempts.
If he misses all seven, he won't get the 38%.
He'll get 39.1. He'll go lower than that. He had 40. He more attempts. If he misses all 7, he won't get the 38%. He'll get 39.1.
He'll go lower than that. He at 40.
He is at 40%.
40.8, so close to 41.
He's shooting close to 41% from 3.
So he's at 98 with
40. 41, we'll say. We'll round
up. If he...
He's already at 40. At 98.
40.8. So if he missed both those,
if he missed both those, he's still at 40.
The 0 for 7, he's dropping.
He go for 0 for 7, he can only get at 39%.
I'm not a mathematician, but we did ask the chat.
He's 1% better.
Does Kyrie deserve a spot on Team USA?
I'm picking Trey.
I'm going with Trey.
91% of the chat said that Kyrie deserves to be on Team USA.
Let's keep this thing moving and grooving.
Oh, my God. If he goes 0 for 7, he would be the exact same percentage as Trey. the chance that Kyrie deserves to be on Team USA. Let's keep this thing moving and grooving.
If he goes on for seven, he'll be the exact same percentage.
We don't live in what if, though.
We live in what is.
No, no, no, but if he misses,
I know my math.
You know what I'm saying?
I didn't go to class, but I went to class.
Who was the all-star this year?
Fair question.
No, that's not fair.
Who lit up the first half of the season? Who lit the whole firststar this year? Fair question. No, that's not fair. That's not fair.
That's not fair.
Who lit up the first half of the season?
Who lit the whole first half of the season? Trae Young.
Trae Young.
Every season.
Trae Young.
28-10 every season.
We saw what Holly was doing in the play.
That's what I like.
That's what I like.
What's it called?
The end season, whatever.
That's what I like.
That's what I like media.
That's what I like media voting.
Because once they have it in for you, man,
they try to figure out how to fuck you every single time.
I agree with that.
We fuck with space.
Yeah, because Trae Young is almost similar to Luka.
His stats are almost the same.
So they do the same thing with Devin Booker and all that.
They try to figure out ways to keep you out of stuff.
So I don't like that.
I get that.
And it ain't no hating.
I just think that he's a better fit for that team. Let's keep it moving. I don't like I don't like that I get that so let's and then they know hey And I just think that he's better fit for that team. I didn't once keep it moving body
What I'm saying is right this point he's right No, it's not even. Even if he misses all seven. He just gets locked up on those seven.
No, no, no.
You know what he does right?
He wins in hypothetical skill.
He has to miss all seven to make him right.
So what if he makes the next seven?
In his mind, he's right.
He goes 40 to 42.
Yeah, he goes higher.
The point is the nigga can shoot.
That's it. Did I ever say Trey couldn't shoot? Yeah, he go higher. The point is, the nigga can shoot.
That's it.
Did I ever say Trey couldn't shoot?
Did I ever say that? Those words never came out.
You did.
Because in his mind, you did go 0 for 7 and he's at 38%,
you lost.
In the hypothetical world,
if it was the 5th, we'd all be drunk.
Yup.
It ain't happening. It ain't happening.
We all be drunk.
It ain't happening.
Even Yo If.
Yo If got to be, oh, he got to make some shots.
No, he is making.
He's 40% real, 98 attempts.
If he taking those other seven, he got to make them.
And he almost 50-49 this year.
You got to make them other seven, don't you?
I'm making up a missing.
Technically, he don't.
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Let's talk about the Spurs, but more particularly their franchise players.
Spurs might be trash.
Wimby is straight cash.
So against the Nets, Wimby dropped 33 points. Come on, Big Phelps.
There it is. 16 rebounds, 7 dimes, and 7 blocks.
He shouldn't be able to move like that.
Yes.
He's doing his...
Ducked as well as the young kids, sir.
Oh, they finally know how to throw it up now?
Yeah.
They got to be careful with those pads.
The no jump. The no jump.
The no jump.
Now he's throwing the hand up and actually getting the ball.
It's a sight to behold.
Get that shit out of here.
Beat that one in OT.
Schroeder, mm.
Give me those.
They had to review that too.
They had to?
They hit the board.
Hit the board.
Wow.
Hit the backboard first.
Oh, no, wait.
So did he call it a goaltend?
They reversed it. They reversed it and made it a block, no, wait. So did he call it a goaltender?
They reversed it and made it a block.
Okay, made it a block.
So like I said, Wimby, 33.16 rebounds, seven dimes, seven blocks, and a three-pointer made.
He had another Wimby-Gammy game.
So this is the seventh Wimby-Gammy game this season.
So those are stats Wimby has put up that no one else has ever reached,
which means that no one else has ever matched or bettered them in a game.
Wow.
Wait, what is it?
33 points, 16 rebounds, 7 assists, 7 blocks,
and one three-pointer made.
Okay, so what is it?
I think the three-pointer.
What the fuck is, what's that line?
What makes it part of the stat line?
The seven blocks and the one three-pointer made.
I think it's the three-pointer.
Nobody else has ever had that stat line
No, was that this? Okay, but what's that line? Did they have before?
Something happened in this that line
No new made-up step, that's what I'm saying which part okay because we know this is a new stat
Which is making it the new part of it the three? I'm sure the three is probably put over time
I know we have seven thirty three so those seven blocks and the three-pointer one three. Yeah, cuz all the bigs back then I was getting them
No, the team and David Robson. No three broke jump
Because I'm looking over the two four and all that I'm looking at the purple line trying to figure out what what stat is that?
So the three puts him in his own category. Yeah category bizarre
Yeah, you got to tell us this like you got to tell us what is putting them over there
So if somebody else does it, right?
So somebody come and do that and have two things.
No, no, no.
So like put the stat line up in.
All right, so if someone had, let's say, 30, 10, 7, 7, 1,
they would put them in the stat line.
And they would say, at least 10 more rebounds,
10 or more rebounds, right? That's what they're going to do. least 10 more rebounds, 10 or more rebounds,
right?
That's what they're going to do.
10 or more rebounds, seven assists, seven blocks, and one three made, right?
So still-
The next big that does something like that-
The next big, they're going to-
They'll be second.
The second player to do it.
But if they surpass that-
They'd be like-
Or like if someone did 30-
35 and up.
30, 10, five, five, and one, they'll say at least five rebounds 5 block. Yeah. Yeah, you know, they start doing that
She got it. Got it. They gonna water it down for the next person to match it. Do you a headache? Yeah. Yeah analytics. Yeah
So during a recent episode of his podcast
Draymond had this to say about Wimby and where he ranks in the league right now
Well, he ranked the Wimby Yama is probably a top 20 player in the NBA right now.
With that skill set, with that length, with that jump shot, his jump shot is absolutely
beautiful.
In San Antonio with that style, that kid, watch out.
This is no stray at all.
I think Chet Holmgren is a very good player, and I know there's been this comparison amongst those two,
but I will tell you, I think there's a gap in between Chet Holmgren and Victor Wimbyama.
Victor Wimbyama is just different.
Kid's special.
Absolutely special, and he may win MVP of the league in like the next two years or so.
So, got some very knowledgeable basketball players on this couch.
Is Wimby a top 20 player in the league right now?
Before we answer that, though, before they can win MVP,
they got to win more games.
They got the same record as with Wimby and without Wimby.
They got to win more before we put him in that category.
Down the road.
He said in the next couple years.
He said two years, three years. No, they going to go from winning 18 road. He said in the next couple years. He said two years, three years.
No, they're going to go from winning 18 games
to 50 games in the next two years.
If that happens, then yeah, but they got to win more.
The stats, without the winning.
I agree.
That's all I'm saying.
I'm thinking he's saying when the winning come,
if they win 50-something games, he'll be.
If he do all this again next year
and they still are in lottery contention,
I don't want to hear no more. If he do this next year, if he do the same thing next year and they still are in lottery contingent I don't want to hear if he do this next year
No, if he do the same thing next year and they win 60 games as the MVP 60. Yeah, it's unanimous. Okay
But is that gonna happen when you ever seen that happen? So if 18 wins to 60 win when that happened
It happened to San Antonio
Because when they got a Antonio to Bird
Most of my bird happy one bird his remote most most of our legends most of the legends who were number one picks and they got
The championship team that's kind of like what happened bird did that it was like 18 and 16
18 is 16 year they want to be one in 18 because the year before that they were
they were that team.
And then they just had a bad year, injuries and stuff, and boom.
When B is like that, top 20?
You don't think he's top 20?
I don't know.
Top 20 in the NBA right now.
I think it's arguable.
At this very moment. You think he should be further or closer?
No, 20 is good.
I don't think he should be higher than that.
I don't.
You think he's top 15?
I think he's not top 10 or top 15. No. Is he better than Bam? You don't think he should be higher than that. I don't you think
No, is he better than 15 is he buried in BAM
Come on
No, that's his friends
He had a friend part it's that man's that man. Yeah, I ain't that stat man.
I don't talk about that. I talk basketball.
Is he better than Bam?
He has to get past the friend part.
And then once he unlocks past the friend,
then we can just realize.
He's going to call me.
Oh, Bam's going to call me.
He might be.
He might be.
I just wanted to know that.
Does he consider Bam top 15?
No, top 20.
I said Bam top 20.
I said 17, 18, right?
I just said he top 20, top 25. I always say Bam top 20. Rashad, is Wimby a top 20 player in the NBA? Absolutely, yeah. He's top 20. I said Bim top 20. You said 17, 18, right? I just said he top 20, top 25.
I always say Bim top 20.
Rashad, is Wimby a top 20 player in the NBA?
Absolutely, yeah.
He's top 20 right now?
Absolutely.
Okay.
Why do you feel like Wimby's a top 20 player in the league at this very moment?
Shit, he got all the potential.
He got all the skill set.
He just got an old motherfucker holding him back and some hating ass teammates.
We would be considering him generational.
He is generational.
No, no, no.
I'm saying like generational to a point
where it's like we never seen this happen this fast if the teammates was literally buying into
his talent and the coach would sit his ass up in the stands and they wouldn't win no matter what
it ain't about winning right now it's their potential the potential of him being considered
this guy doing all this type of shit right now with the skill set and the-
So winning don't count to nothing to being that high, top 20, top 15?
Right now with the team they got, it ain't no way they can win.
That's why that coach need to go sit his ass over there and let this player play.
So he learned the game.
When you said that coach-
I know when Luka and when Zion came, it was big change.
No, no, no, the jigsaw, the jigsaw killing.
He don't like pop.
I forgot he don't like pop. Nah, he did be sending him elaborate traps
He trapping this nigga Wimby. He got him in the know
I'm not even gonna lie like he's letting when we be landing right? Oh, we not I mean on the time
I know he's not he's only playing 29 minutes. So
That's the investment for that's nothing there's a party
Make sure Make sure he
don't be hurting all that.
People don't want to hear it, though.
You have to accept that.
The player on,
the player is sitting...
That's coming from up top. Make sure he gets
to that fourth year for that extension. Make sure he
gets there. Fuck all that. He's first year in here.
Man, we need to bring all the morale into this team.
Let this motherfucker...
And look, let's run the offense through this nigga. They are. Man, we need to bring all the morale into this team. Let this motherfucker... And look, let's run
the offense through this nigga. They are.
No, they're not. You don't even see 33, 16,
7, and 7. That's him playing. That's him being
him. That ain't him getting the
ball every time. Why he got to get the ball
every time? Because he's him. Rashad, do you
think the Spurs should protect that investment?
I got to see Wembley pay live. A lot
of times he could get live. They're not throwing it to him.
But you don't want him to suffer a foot injury,
landing traps.
So why are you playing?
Don't put him on the fucking floor.
But we want to get him right.
We want to get him adjusted to this NBA.
This is basketball.
I understand.
Same fucking sissy ball.
Seven foot four, though.
What are you averaging?
What's his splits right now?
20, 10, 3.5 assists, 3.5 blocks, 1.3 steals.
All that shit go up.
That's almost just like,
that's almost identical.
Like three blocks.
For 29 minutes.
That goes up. Give him six more minutes. 21, 10, 4, and almost four blocks a 29 minutes? That goes up.
Give him six more minutes.
21, 10, 4, and almost 4 blocks a game.
Are we...
36.
But 3.5 turnovers, too.
We got to throw that in.
He's young.
No, he's young.
He's learning the game.
Yeah, he's top 20.
I got to solidify him.
Do you think he's a top 20 player in the NBA?
Yeah, he's top 20 for sure.
Solidify.
Like, when he said he's, he's far away from Chet...
He said there's a gap.
A big gap.
I know somebody else who said
that there was a big gap between Wimby and Chet.
This has nothing to do with numbers.
This is just talent.
The talent level is not even... there's not even a close thing
This is not even a close thing. Like one is just super super just his
Instincts coming you round it back the things that you're seeing him do he's unlocked so much freedom
They'd like it's possible for him to do anything
Yeah, there's no impossibility with him.
And this is what I used to say about coaches.
He is the definition of a pit bull that never had a leash on him.
He's never had a leash on him.
So when he looks at the game and he's playing a game, his brain has no cap.
There's no narrow minded of how to play.
There's no one that's going to play the right way,
and he's sitting there being scared.
Pop is unlocking that, though.
Pop ain't putting no leash on his leg.
Yeah, he's unlocking it.
Because he got him in the fucking gate.
Nah.
This man done...
Think about it.
He got the niggas, he got no leash on them,
but you got him in the gate.
Think about the moves we done seen him try.
He done...
Sam got it that month.
He done...
Sam got...
He done nutmegged the dude. And then you heard a... Nah, nah. Come on out here. Come on, he done. Sam got it that month. He done, Sam got it. He done, he done nutmegged the dude.
And then you heard it.
Nah, nah.
Come on out here.
Come on, come on.
I got you in this gate.
Nah, he nutmegged somebody in the end to finish, bro.
Don't you, don't you, don't you, don't you.
Don't you, don't you.
Don't you fucking do it.
No, you know damn well.
Put you in time out.
Put you in that motherfucking gate.
Nah, don't you.
Because, you know, if they would have, after the nutmeg, if he would have been handicapped, we would have seen.
Pop is, yeah, Pop is obvious.
He would have been so timid in the training.
If it was unsuccessful.
Nah.
If the nutmeg was unsuccessful, he would have been, yeah.
But the fact that he can pull it off and he can get that shit, it's like you can't put the nigga in the doghouse.
Yeah, you can't.
How many people got put in a doghouse doing stuff?
Not when you're 7'4".
Popovich has enough energy.
Yeah, Popovich. You would think that he's the
I know
because I know what type of coach it is
that's putting this type of restriction
without everyone seeing it
it's a mental restriction
because we're seeing him do anything he wants
he's not doing anything he wants
what more could he want to do?
play more
that's out of his hands
you asked what more could he want to do? Play more. That's out of his hands. That's out of his hands.
You asked what more could he want to do.
He want to play more.
Yeah, but that's out of his control.
I'm telling you what he would want to do.
I want to play more so I can do more.
So you're doing more.
No, I want to do more.
This ain't restriction where we're like,
you don't shoot the ball.
It's not restricting this game.
I want to do more.
Because if you allow me to do more,
maybe we have a better chance to win.
If I allow you to do more,
history has shown every player over 7'3 gets hurt every time.
You ain't never had a nigga like me before.
True.
Y'all niggas move around.
I want you 20 years.
I don't want you 20 years.
I don't want you three and a half years.
You got me right now.
Take advantage of now.
You talking about, stop looking down the line.
Hit me now.
It's not the restriction you're talking about where it's like, yo, sit in the corner.
We don't want you to try.
I'm not talking about that restriction either.
I'm talking about the mental restriction of, man,
every time I'm getting going, you're bringing me out
because of some minutes restrictions.
Or this restriction.
Fuck all that.
Let me hoop.
I'm hooping.
Let me hoop.
You now have a business.
That's them.
They're every team.
That's every team.
Every team's doing that now.
That's every player.
But why you doing it with me?
Don't sub me out.
Why you doing it with me?
That's every player. I'm supposed to be him. Don't do sub me out. Why you doing it with me? That's every player.
I'm supposed to be him.
Don't do it with me.
You think Greek the Freak wants to come out of the game?
Greek the Freak ain't me.
You think Jokic wants to come out of the game?
These niggas is not me.
Listen, I never wanted to come out.
No, but he never want to come out.
You accept me?
Cheryl, Cheryl, we be a top 20 player in the...
Easy.
So you say easily top 20.
Why do you feel that way?
His skill set and, I mean, just watching what he just did at his size, his height, his length,
the ability to do some of the stuff he does.
There are some guards that can't handle the rock like he does.
It just, it's beautiful basketball to watch.
And I've seen him get better just this season from the beginning
to where he is right now yeah i can't think of 19 players in the league right now that
are better than him just he's better just like i don't yeah just just not even potential just
right now better because his offense look we're like at his offense, we're like...
This is the worst we're going to ever see him.
We're like, yo, this is the worst we're going to ever see him.
That's scary.
Defensively, we're like, yo, he's a defense...
He might win defensive player of the year.
Seven blocks?
You had seven blocks.
I'm going to put it on I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it on I'm gonna put it on record now
Jordan's 88 year is gonna be challenged by this dude when he went every award when he wins every scoring
The score is a player the year. I don't know about there's gonna be huh you going scoring champ. I don't know about that
Okay, because I'm about to see good good. I mean just with lobs a little wobbly, but just his jump shot
They doesn't get but there's gonna be a year. I mean if he averages what 31 he can win it with a 31 year
Yes, he can fuck around win scoring title
rebounding title block title defense
MVP all-star MVP that could be a year where he run the table
We don't know about the the NBA championship, but all them regular seasons award
I will get fuck around win them all think I'll try to stop you to the site and decide no besides
Stay with me this leader and she let it but he can fuck around win a lot of awards one of those years if everything's clean
So rebound in 10 block 10 to he started for the year because the MVP the rebound cuzbounding champ, block champ. Wait till he starts. Defensive player of the year.
MVP.
Because the rebounding champ and block champ, he can do that now.
He's already flirting. He's leading the league in blocks now.
As long as he's blocking and rebounding, the way the defensive rules are automatically puts him into the defensive player of the year.
He already has more blocks and rebounds in the year.
Rudy Gobert, all of Rudy Gobert's defensive player of the year, he already surpassed that already.
He already surpassed that? Every one of those the year, he already surpassed that already.
Every one of those seasons, he's already surpassed that in blocks. Think about this. When he get
in his mind and they start teaching him
get all the defensive
boards.
Every shot that go up,
that's theirs. Go get it.
I'm getting
12-13 a game. Now think
about he get the joke itch mindset
Put it up. Get it again
Put it up get it again. I'm getting ten more of those again
That's so can you ever will number them?
He has like 25 and 17 like will type stuff though like he could we're not teaching we're not teaching those fundamental the season
I don't think not this game would a three
We just seen Nurkis get 26. We just see
Average 25 see how they get in a rebound though. Yeah, I just get defensive boards
I'm gonna get for the reason average 17 rebounds the reason the reason it'll be the reason to be hard for a guy like him
Is because one everything is switching
Right, you'll be on perimeter. So he'll be a perimeter more than so that means he effort
He has true. He has to really think about going back on that when naturally what he wanted
So to be one of those years where and running in is bad for his if he runs in and gets bumped in the top away
And then get one of the things they don't have to they are and they they not bumping him up top cuz they short
So now lower extremities you don't want you want to be coming
That's why I think they've been smart with even how they play cuz I was at the Lakers birds
I'm like, I thought this man more lob. They gonna make it a lot
Yeah, but all that traffic coming down landings like it's just on there
Yeah, like you don't want to put them in that position thing about him, though I don't see him having a lot of ankle
Feet injuries brains as he works because he don't jump like that. Yeah, we smart everything is and he works on his feet
Yeah, he works. He like even he took a shot where he didn't jump
Yeah, yes, hey look the little guy
We asked the chat is when be a top 20 player in the league right now?
67% said yes.
Ooh.
So let's keep it moving.
Well, I got a question.
Uh-oh.
If the NBA draft was today, everyone this year is unlocked, does he go top five?
What you mean?
Say that one more.
What you mean everybody's unlocked?
The 2023, 24.
We did a fantasy draft.
Did a fantasy draft.
Everybody's free.
Is he picked in the top five?
I don't know.
Does it?
Huh?
I don't know how.
From a fantasy standpoint, yeah.
Like LeBron.
Everybody's like.
Yoke is.
And B.
LeBron's more number one, bro.
At his age?
Oh, no.
Not at his age.
No, I'm coming right now.
Right now.
Oh, Rob.
This year. Because we're not saying he's'm coming right now as a renown
Top 20 right now does he go top five fantasy draft fantasy
I'm taking honest over him and we saying right right now. Yeah right now right now Yeah, the now. Giannis is playing like 30. How many minutes is he playing averaging 30 and 12?
He's got to be top five.
He's got to be top five.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
A general manager is like.
Giannis, Luka, Joker.
Those are for sure.
Those three are for sure.
Embiid.
Embiid.
KD.
KD.
Got them right off the rip.
I'm not putting KD in the top.
No, KD and Tatum.
That's what I said.
Someone is going to.
I got.
Because after. Ant-Man. Like Jokic. I'm not putting AD in the top no Katie and Tatum like that's why I said like someone is gonna I got because after I mean like yo kitsch what happens is yo kitsch and him once I get those two
It's easier to fill your roster with their attributes, but it like I don't like with yo kitsch
I don't need a point guard in the first next additional point
Yeah, because I don't need you know a shooter and all
that the power for it because he he does a lot of things he can play the five he can play the four
he can play the and he can shoot are we building for the future or for just even right now just
this season we build that changes everything because i'm not i'm like all right kd would
probably be top 10 he wouldn't be my top five because then you got those three Joker and be honest Giannis
Luca that's for
You can put win be in there, but he would only put win be in there for longevity for the future
Ant-man right right now. I'm put Ant-man right got
So you got other KD would be five you got to consider KD in five
But I wouldn't put him in five if he was going beyond the season.
And I'm just saying that from impact on winning
because he's putting up crazy stats,
but like I said, the record is...
But you're building it,
but remember, you don't have...
Winning has nothing to do with it.
You're building your team.
These are your first pick.
Yeah, first pick of the season.
This is the first pick that you have.
Giannis Antetokounmpo or Joker.
That's mine.
That's what I'm rolling with.
But even, like you say,
healthy everybody, healthy everybody. Giannis Antetokounmpo, right? And being healthy everybody. Right now, fresh. Or Joker That's my that's one rolling with but even like you say everybody else
I don't know if it's a good boy and be right everybody right now
But I wish you got to build it around this player this player only but what I'm saying with their current status right now
So Embiid out out with the J. I mean, okay
Everybody for sure
Yeah, and be killing everybody to young if MB Joe if MB
Giannis is gone. I don't know how I don't take when be at four
All right, they all they all gone and those guys are going on to read I got the fourth pick Luke
I don't I'm going Ant-Man over. I'm picking ant. Yeah, I can't I can can't. Over. Over Luka. Over Luka? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He giving it to me on both sides of the ball.
On both sides of the rock.
Now you looking at it like this.
Because remember, with Luka, you have to think about how he plays.
Now you have to draft.
You got to go get a Wimby.
You have to draft the players around his talent.
I might go take him over Luka.
Shit.
It'll probably look exactly how it looks now.
You're going to have to play small ball, guys who don't need the ball.
Yep, yep.
And if you consider both sides of the ball, Tatum do play defense.
He does.
So if we're talking both sides, I'm like, hey, Luka, you got to move around a little bit.
There's very few that do that.
Mm-hmm.
Very few.
For a perimeter player, Ant might be the best in the league at playing both sides.
Yeah, you can say, all right, I'll build SGA.
SGA. Yeah, but he say, all right, I'll build SGA. SGA.
Yeah, but he don't play the same way Ant.
Ant is high-octane defense.
Ant's a whole different.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
And Kawhi is getting older now because it used to be Kawhi.
Yeah.
PG, what happened to PG?
Yeah, it used to be him.
He used to be up there, too.
It was a podcast.
Podcast P.
See, here we go.
See, here we go. See, here we go.
Look, look, look.
Here we go.
Podcast P don't play no D.
That's...
Coming from Rashad McKay.
Coming from Rashad McKay.
What the fuck you mean?
Nigga, I'm just spitting facts.
What do you mean?
You know.
Wait, what the clip is?
You in L.A.?
What do you mean?
You like to go fishing and shit.
Let's talk about the Bucks of Milwaukee.
Mic drop.
Dude.
Keep it moving.
We have enough problems in these streets as it is.
Pull up.
I'll beat you already.
What's up, nigga?
Hey, is Podcast B supposed to come on this?
What's up, nigga?
I'm already want to know.
We would love to see PG come pull up to Gil's Arena.
Summertime.
Summertime is going to be good for us.
Feature for a feature.
My knees hurt.
So we're yawning sideline for the Bucks bid matchup against the Suns
It was game time
Game gave the Suns 31 points
16 dimes and look you smooth
Look you smoother this move
10 for 19 from the field for free from three Bobby Porter said at 31 and Chris Middleton
Put up 22 points in his first game back after missing the last 16 games with a sprained ankle.
Good to see him back. Yeah it's good to see Middleton back out on the floor.
He gave him a different dynamic. He makes them a better team. Much better team. Bucs put up
140 on the Suns again without Giannis. Dame first player in Bucs history with
30 points and 15 assists in the game.
Bucs are 16-1 when Dame scores 30 points or more this season.
And they're 9-3 in their last 12 games.
So Gil, what does a win like this without Giannis do for the Bucs' confidence as they get ready for the playoffs?
Get them, Gil.
Get them.
The Bucs killer. This ain't about the Bucks confidence at all because these are two different teams.
Yes.
Right?
These are two different completely, like, we're not worried about this team.
What's the record when Dame does what?
So Dame without Giannis, I believe, is 3-1 this season.
Giannis without Dame this season is 3-1 this season. Giannis without Dame
this season is 0-5.
So that's
the issue. The issue is
who's going to
realize that the
offense needs to be for Dame
not Giannis
anymore? Because
that is the problem. The problem
isn't Dame and everybody else
the problem is Dame and Giannis learning how to play together because right now
all Dame's explosion Giannis is gone them double teams don't even matter
right so you when Giannis is gone and you can focus on Dame he's busting your
ass when Giannis is there he struggles yeah focus on Dame, he's busting your ass. When Giannis is there, he struggles.
But I think that's a mental thing for Dame because he's still getting the shot attempts.
Exactly.
It ain't like Giannis is not giving him the ball.
Giannis gets hit every way.
Offensive rebound, transition.
Giannis sits for like eight straight minutes so Dame can do his thing.
It's like a block, like a mental block he has when he plays with Giannis
because Giannis don't limit him at all.
Well, if you think about Giannis off the ball, what is your off the ball?
Slash and rebounded so when he not in the game
He actually got more space shooters shooters in more space, but he shoot three step backs
Anyway, he like but I must be way over there
We got it not shooting on the floor when when he on the floor with Yannis the Yannis the only man is not so far away
I'm not even a help. They double off a Yannis man, which is yeah, I know right they do
So when he does a pick and roll with Yannis's man, they double them
But a lot of time he ain't doing pick and rolls with Yannis man no more. They doing it with Brook Lopez now
And Yannis be standing way over there. So Yannis man is not even in the play. Now think about it, right?
So that's what I'm saying. The two deadliest people can't even play together because they don't know how.
Yep.
Right?
So Dane doesn't want to do
pick and roll with Giannis
even though that's the play
that Doc wants.
That should be the most
He wants to do pick and roll
with Brooke
because you can't
double off Brooke.
Right.
So I think it can work though.
So they're playing
two different offenses
inside the same offense
and they're not
Giannis is not in the doghouse.
Think about it. If Giannis is down in the doghouse. Think about it.
If Giannis is down in the doghouse and you're playing pick and pop with Brooke,
it's a better opportunity for Giannis to get it off the glass
or to duck in if he actually turned the corner on the double.
But he is rebounding and getting it off the glass.
But that's not the pick and roll that they're doing.
They're doing pick and roll.
Giannis is popping.
He becomes a liability.
They've learned not to do it with him.
But he's not even doing slow roll.
He should slow roll it so he can drape on it.
When he get the ball in the mid, now he can make a decision.
But then there's no doghouse for him to make that extra pass.
That's Brooke in the corner, and you're spreading.
I think Dan got to learn how to be a little bit more dynamic with the pick and roll
and don't be so set in his way of...
Because he got to adjust.
He has to adjust.
He never won a championship.
Giannis didn't win one.
They ain't got to adjust a little bit to learn how to manipulate the pick and roll because it should be a deadly pick and roll with him and Giannis.
He manipulated right.
It's just a double bomb.
They just...
Well, I wouldn't even...
What happened to the old pistol two-man game?
Some teams do it. When you come off the top.
No, just like you have the three-man game over there, me and you have Giannis
at that mid-post free throw elbow area.
Throw it to him.
Throw it to him, take off.
Yeah.
And he can give it to him or he can give it to him.
Yeah, you can give it to him or he can give it to him.
That's what they do in Denver.
Yeah, that's what they do in Denver.
That's exactly what they do in Denver. And then he go dame goes to the corner if they messed up on it
If not you can sit there and then what?
Triple handoff, yeah, boy and all right corner. No Chris Webber my baby
If you want to try to double me right here
Yannis is 15 feet away from the basket now and now that came it is back
Once they come off now you you can dribble handoff with K-Mid.
And you got the weak side. You got the weak side with a shooter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Doc never ran plays like that, so I don't even know.
That's crazy.
That's a solution, though, if you want to talk about them two on the floor together.
Mid-post action, splits.
Because that was never in his playbook.
I'm going to be honest, though.
The game slowed down naturally anyway, so it's going to be okay and work itself out in the playoffs.
I think they're going to be a hand.
They can get hurt in the playoffs too.
They can get hurt in the playoffs
because Giannis already gets stuck in his ways in the playoffs
when they try to load up.
And if Dame realizes, oh, y'all loading up on him,
let me do my thing,
the defense and Dames
deciding to go pick and roll
with Giannis could really,
I mean,
with Lopez could.
but with Middleton back,
you also have another shooter.
Yep.
That second unit
when Giannis goes sit down,
Damian,
Damian Middleton,
that could be nice.
Hopefully,
Damian don't do one of these.
The question is this,
the question is this,
is Giannis a ball stopper because he's the star of the team?
And you think about what I'm saying.
When the ball's moving and Giannis gets it, he wants to make a move.
He wants to do his thing.
When the ball, and he's not in the game, what happens with the ball?
Pop, pop, pop, somebody makes him.
The ball's never stopping.
Even with Dame, that's why he keeps exploding for big points
because the ball is moving when it's not in his hands.
Boom, boom, boom, shot.
Middleton in the post.
He's getting quick actions.
Getting quick actions, right?
So when Giannis is in the game, he gets the ball, he'll hold it.
Is Giannis comfortable enough playing a role in that new offense?
Because he had to play a role where
you're not the dynamic number one option.
But why would you want
Giannis to be uncomfortable?
That's the point.
Because Dame
has to be comfortable. But think about it.
The way the offense is played
now with this team
and their success rate
is
the offense running through Dame and the team not
Yana so you can't use and this might be the problem you can't use I'm a two-time
MVP that's what he's doing and I'm a champion not doing this I'm a chip no no
I'm not saying he's about to hear we can't say two-time NBA, you know, MVP, and I'm a champion.
We run it my way.
If you use that logic, then we're going to see it's going to be struggling.
You got to be able to understand as a champion, you have to probably go another way.
We can't go this road.
Dame shots are the same when Giannis plays versus when he don't play.
It's just a matter of he makes them more when he don't play.
So I don't think that Giannis should do anything but what he's been doing.
Giannis is playing efficient basketball.
He ain't playing a bunch of minutes.
He's rebounding at a crazy clip.
For himself.
For the team.
Nah.
Because, hey, why did they trade coaches?
Do you really want to get to that?
You know why?
Tell me why.
Because Giannis wasn't getting the touches that he... Why do you think Giannis kept taking the clipboard? Do you really want to get that? You know why? You know why? Tell me why.
Because Giannis wasn't getting the touches that he... Why you think Giannis kept taking
the clipboard?
Hey man, let's do this where I get it and then I let me...
You really think that's why?
Bro, let me...
That is not why.
Listen, what changed?
What changed?
You think Giannis is over there trying to...
That's what he... He took the clipboard, bro.
He was over there throwing up the plate.
What you doing, Adrian? Let me do it. Let me... That's notboard, bro. He was over there drawing up the play. What you doing, Adrian?
Let me do it.
Let's just say Adrian was trying to get Dame involved.
More.
It wasn't Dame that got rid of him.
Do you be watching your marquee play?
Yes, bro.
Dame is able to shoot whatever shot he want with or without Giannis on the court.
Look, we talked about it, man.
That's why I said Gilbert, get him.
Because we know that Doc is drawing up the same place
He played he's drawn up the same
Nothing changed except for the fact that Dame is out there by his soap ain't no actions. That's being ran
No, it's the same shots. That's what I'm saying. So it's like 40 for you on this why have you came into the backseat?
Well, why come and they just he can't make his shots and they both are going 35 and 35
Like they did like they did a couple nights ago.
The shots are different.
They're not different.
No, the timing of the shots are different.
If you look at the timing of Dame's shots, he keeps the ball in his hands the whole time.
In the games Giannis play, Giannis gets it off the board.
He's bringing it up.
You need both of those dynamics, though.
You need both.
You can't just have, you need both of those dynamics.
No, I'm saying you do. But is it, is it, is it Giannis more so than, than Dame being in his head?
I can't even get to Giannis.
Dame is going through a lot right now.
Yeah.
Personal life. He hasn't, he's not himself yet.
No, no.
But he was himself last night.
Yeah, he showed flashes. He showed flashes. I agree with that.
But I think that was also because Giannis ain't playing.
Exactly.
So I don't have to worry about or think about,
I got to find a way to get Giannis involved.
So to Norris's point, when Giannis is playing,
I think Dame needs to just be Dame and stop worrying
about, I get what you're
saying. How can it be Dame? How can he be
Dame when I gotta now get
Giannis the ball? Giannis is gonna get
the ball anyway. You don't gotta
spoof him. But when he does get the ball,
it's slowing down the process at all.
It's probably like the D-Lo,
it's like the D-Lo LeBron thing. Whenever
LeBron's off the floor, D'Lo goes ham.
When LeBron comes on, he does more thinking.
But D'Lo ain't Dame.
We know that happens.
It happens, but Dame is a different caliber player.
Yeah.
But Dame is Dame.
But he left his castle to come to somebody.
Now he feels like he has to divert the range.
That's him.
Giannis has already let him know the range is yours.
Do you.
It's different when you walk around.
Giannis, it's do you.
It's still different when you walk around somebody else's castle.
Giannis is going to get 30-12 no matter what.
Trying to salute Giannis when he comes through, but they can't salute you the same way because this ain't really your shit.
We don't really know you like that, bro.
Even though the king just said, no, he good, y'all.
He good. He's good. They like, nah, B, even though the kingdom said no he good y'all. Yeah, he got good. He's good
They like nah be you good. He good, but that take time to though watch when the playoffs happen
Why you know how you said Dame still get the same shots?
funny story
Rudy T and cold
right
This is after the Golden State Warriors game this is like when Rudy T got fired
right and it was having a meeting and Rudy T sitting there crying about he
don't know what to do I gotta tell the story the way the story was I can't say
he was in there laughing and Rudy T was like you know know, I drop a play you don't like to play.
You say you need 27 shots.
You're getting 27 shots.
It ain't the way I'm getting my 27 shots.
Not the way I want it.
Right?
He was like, you want the ball.
I just have you take the ball out.
You can get the ball and run for it.
The Jordan have to dribble the ball up the court.
The Jordan get in the spot.
Yeah, I'm getting 27,
but it ain't the 27 that I wanted.
The way I want it.
Yeah, like...
Efficiently.
I'm getting...
I want the ball in these spots.
You telling me to take the ball out
and get it and dribble up the court.
Play the point guard.
That's not how I get my points.
So it is a thing.
But Dame is getting his shots how he get him
He's coming off pick and roll sidestep and he's ice on he they give him the bar the in shot clock
He getting his shots. It's just one honest play. It's the space and they don't the same
No, he's not
Pick a rowing honest you in. Not anymore, not anymore. No, yeah, he's not running every pick and roll. I can't pass it to you, but you put up
a brick, bro. You putting up bricks
and shit. He over there like,
come on, bro. God damn.
Whoa, hey, hey, hey.
He's missing. Hey, no.
This is what you're saying right now.
What you're saying right now
is the reason
the league is different.
Right? When Giannis is on the floor the league is different right when dain when yannis is on the floor dame is struggling because what yannis can't shoot the ball right so that ain't what they know
no so that that that one guy who can't shoot changes the dynamic of the floor. Right? Because he can't shoot
changes the dynamic of the floor.
Now when people argue about there's no
more defense, that Giannis
now has
turned into a Jokic
for someone like Murray.
Right?
You see what I'm saying? Now instead of having
one guy that can't score, can't shoot,
we got five people who can shoot.
Now, the mental of the guard now when he drives in, I can do any move.
Like, I see young fellas, Shea do moves that he knows there's no defense clocking back on him.
He'll come in here, cut them off.
Like, yo, he knows the guy who switched ain't trying to reach back because he knows I got to shoot her.
The comfort level of the guys now knowing that you can't double or do anything is the reason that the defense look like there's nobody there.
But, I mean, he just proved another point.
Yeah, I'm about to say, that ain't this situation with Giannis because Giannis is getting the same shots.
And guess what?
When he's shooting missed, guess who's cleaning it up?
Giannis is cleaning up on aisle six, man.
Dame, shoot what you want to shoot.
Ain't no missing when he ain't in the game, though.
I don't need to clean up on aisle six because your ass ain't in my way.
He's not in your way.
Yes, he is.
When he ain't on the floor, ain't nobody there.
I'm doing my thing.
Do you see how many layups Dame had?
So what about the game when they both went Dame had? He just had layups.
What about the game when they both went for 30?
They both had 30.
You know why?
Because you're stretching, right?
If Brooke is stretching the floor on a pick and pop,
and I'm going to the baseline,
instead of a nigga trapping us and sending me to the baseline.
So don't play with Yon.
So you're sending me to the baseline on the pick and pop with Brooke?
With a full rotation?
I can go play that bitch up.
So Yon has come off the bench now.
No, no, no, no, no.
What are we talking about?
Shadi, what are we talking about?
It never should have made the trade.
That's what we're talking about.
No, no, no.
You two had one conversation.
I'm back in the oh, another conversation where I'm winning now.
I dig it.
Bro, I'm saying you got five people out there.
You got a bunch of shooters, and you got one nigga that's a handicap.
I'm just saying, but listen, it's more than one way to play basketball.
So your way is a way.
That ain't that way because you got to have real shooting to do like that.
And it ain't 30 teams that got real shooting to run that offense.
No, no, what I'm saying is what he's talking about, right,
you see how easy it is for Dane to get to the basket
when he knows there's nobody to protect the rim.
That's what my whole argument was
in today's game. It's not that
there's no defense, no one's trying.
The
court is so spread
when you have guards who can get to the
basket,
when they go, if they know
four people are sitting on the perimeter,
they sitting there playing lunch
basketball. It's like one-on-one of them.
That's my argument. I'm not
with y'all. I'm not even on y'all conversations.
I'm not even on y'all conversations.
I'm trying to kill a dead body right here.
He thinks that.
We believe in defense.
I'm over here.
I'm over here.
I'm over here.
I'm with y'all too.
What he's missing is we were talking about effort.
We were talking about effort.
Where was that at?
He was making that layup.
But listen, no, it was nonexistent.
But the dynamic of when you got five shooters on the floor
and Dame do go baseline,
help got still got to fucking come over.
There's still a rotation.
There's still a rotation. There's still a rotation.
And that rotation is all about effort.
That's it.
But also understanding where the rotation should come.
The rotation ain't always be the same.
Right.
And it's universal in basketball.
The best player, even if there's shooters out there,
you rotate to the best player.
So if the best player is driving,
it don't matter who the shooters are. You help the most dominant player you help off of.
No matter who out there. make what would make Dame upset is if Giannis keeps popping instead of rolling if you roll
They have to collapse the back. That is true
You can't shoot and that is his dynamic of space and it's like bro you in the way you post to be rolling
Are you telling me?
Giannis answer the cupo is picking and popping every time with them. That's what you seen up here trying to tell
That's what we see majority of the time. That's cap that happens every time
No a game Yannis rarely rose in the picture. Oh, you're talking about now because they don't do the pick and roll anymore
because of but
When he does it like Yannis has to understand when he does a pick and roll with game
He has to roll and be more Amari Blake Griffin type in YouTube pick and roll
That also is gonna take time for them to understand
Because what again he would pick a pop and dribble handoff to the to the second side
Cuz Chris Middleton was coming drew was coming off. We throw it back and then you dribble handoff on the second side. Because Chris Middleton was coming. Drew was coming off. He threw it back and then you dribble
hand off on the other side.
I'm a junkie
with this pen
to say it again.
Go ahead and do it, Drew.
Go ahead and do it.
No, I'm just saying
but that is something
that he has to learn
as a player
but that's called
self-awareness too.
For sure.
You don't have Middleton
over there
so what you used to do
you can't do anymore.
You don't have Drew Holiday.
Middleton just came back now.
Because the reason you don't
when you did pick and roll with Drew Holiday,
they did not double or do all that.
So you can pop back and...
They're doubling now,
so popping back hurts the double team.
Yeah, because it's Dame.
Yeah, it's Dame.
They're doubling because it's Dame.
So you have to adjust for him.
Everybody else...
So tell me something.
They doubling Dame when he come off pick and roll?
He throw it back to Giannis.
Who's open?
He's throwing it back to Giannis.
And what happens after that?
He holds the ball. Holds the ball to go one-on-one. That's why I say he don't... So he don't catch and roll. He throw it back to Giannis. He's throwing it back to Giannis. And what happens after that? He holds the ball.
Holds the ball to go one-on-one.
That's why I say he don't...
So he don't catch and drive down the lane
and make him play plays out.
He tries.
He tries.
He tries.
That's where you think
the free turnovers come from.
He tries or he does.
It's not efficient anymore.
Right?
Because remember,
it used to be,
like it used to be
the three-man pick and roll,
pass it, you know
Draymond Green,
Klay, whatever.
That's not the, you can't do that
anymore because the pick and roll that
got that offense,
they're not doing that with Dame. Now they're hard
doubling and they're coming to you, you're looking
whoa! Exactly. So why can't they do
that if they put a shooter on the same side? If Giannis
is rolling, they put a shooter over there.
The shooter, he can't help.
So now, Giannis got a clear lane to go down if the other low man helps the kick.
Well, the defense has to make it easy.
That's easy offense.
Because that was a doc's offense.
Yeah.
That part.
That's real simple.
Put a shooter on the same side.
Giannis pop.
If the guy come over, it's a shooter.
It's a quick swing, swing.
That's easy.
Two people on the ball, then you run out of people.
That's Maddox.
That's easy.
No, but Giannis not.
No one's guarding Giannis on that pick back.
When you throw it back to Giannis, they're in the lane.
So nobody's guarding.
They're like, Giannis can't shoot.
Go ahead.
He gets a running start to the basket.
Which is the best offense you want.
A running start to Giannis.
That's why they don't like playing with that.
You would die by that, though.
They not playing that.
You're not going to beat the Bucs.
Dame is not fucking with that because you're stopping the offense. But that was, I think, to be honest, that might have been the issue in the locker room with Coach Griffin.
Right?
This whole little pick and roll thing because it was a problem.
Even though they was winning, that might have been the discussion that everybody was probably trying to figure out to have.
The one we're having right now
And it was easier to say get the fuck out of here. Yeah now doc is coming in and
The only thing I did took it just took you guys and put him put him in the corner
Don't go in the corner, but that's a go rebound when he shoot that the
I'll let the problem is there have a success
They're having success But they're having success without They're having success, but they're having success without each other,
so we don't even see the real problem.
Exactly.
Just a couple games ago, they both went for 30.
Like 30 apiece.
Don't mean nothing.
I'm talking about like, I'm talking about.
I think they can.
It's like the Suns, right?
It's like the Suns.
We see the spurts.
We haven't seen them together to see how it works.
Are they clicking?
Yes.
Give them more time.
Yeah.
So I want to see, like I want them to play, at least play 10, 15 games so we can see what you look like together so we can actually fix the problem.
But right now we just patch up.
We see the problem.
And also.
We see it, but they got to see it together.
But also with Middleton.
And with Middleton.
He's going to make it a lot easier.
In the mix changes a lot of how the defense will defend.
Yeah.
See, Middleton is good for it. See, Middleton and Dame,
no problem. Because what Dame do,
Middleton can shoot this and this.
We have to see all three of them because the
offense needs to be for all three.
And the fact that they're coming back now,
now Giannis is out, we need to see
what they're going to look like moving
in this next month
to get ready for playoffs.
It's hard to know what we want.
Dame, Beasley, Middleton, Brooke, and Giannis.
That's day five.
Giannis rolling.
They got to pick up the roller.
If you even got Brooke in the corner or Brooke lifted,
it don't fucking matter.
He going to be open because the big got to take Giannis.
If you put Beasley in the corner that mean guard the globe low guard gotta take John
It's your old don't lunch me right? So now the big if Giannis roll
So what we did is we inverted we inverted if if Brooke was lifted you inverted
Which is the big goes takes the low guy and then the guard takes Brooke at the top.
So when we do the rotation, you're going to take the roll guy.
So when Giannis rolls, you got Middleton, Brooke, and Beasley on the weak side.
But that can't be your offense the whole time.
But they're not even doing it because Giannis is not rolling.
But they will now if they're smart.
Well, we'll see what the offense looks like when everybody's there.
But you can't do that too much because you need Giannis to be in attack mode to draw fouls to get to the bonus.
Or you need to play team basketball and not worry about what Giannis is comfortable with.
That is team basketball.
Fuck that shit.
Giannis, roll to the fucking basket because we got a nigga that's better than you now out here playing on the offensive end.
On the offensive end.
Dame Lillard is better than Giannis.
That's cap.
Right?
I'm saying if Giannis. And you know that's cap. Dame Lillard is not a Giannis. That's cap. Right? I'm saying if Giannis...
And you know that's cap.
Dame Lillard is not a better offensive player than Giannis?
What were you saying?
My question?
No.
No, I said who does that fall on, right?
If Giannis isn't rolling...
It's not being told to roll.
Where does Doc come in?
Don't get him started.
Does Doc even see it?
Does Doc see it like...
Don't get him started.
Don't get him started.
He has to see it. Like doc's don't get like no
Like wrong
But you can't and you gotta establish a
Temple or the game yannis has to be aggressive to draw fouls and break down the defense was you gonna rub pick and roll with? Shag do that pick and roll with that
Pick and roll with that if I'm guarding yannis today and he's gonna set a screen and just pop
I'm not gonna go out and defend that so I'm gonna just go there, and he's gonna set a screen and just pop I'm not gonna go out and defend that
So I'm gonna just go there and if he's picking and rolling though
He's not gonna be scoring as much though, and you need him you need both of them to score
I don't think he should set a screen for Dame ever. That's why he said thank you
They realize that though, bro
But how do I tell you I want to pick a row with you when when you and you holiday used to pick all the time
Doing it it shouldn't be that like yeah, I don't wanna
Doc still in the big row is second check. How we win
If you go pick and roll with that and Jack pops, what the fuck is Jack popping for?
Jack roll to the basket why cuz you're drawing the whole defense with the
roll now we got wide open shots i think y'all just limiting their offense too much it's just
for them no limiting it too much because i think the offense is limited if the office has been
limited like we're still going off of the success that they had then and not realize that the
offense has been struggling in the playoffs since. Yep. Right? We're still talking about the championship year,
and they beat the Suns,
and they went through there with a little bit of help, right,
from referees and whatever.
We can pretend that none of it happened, right?
We can pretend that, you know, the Nets didn't get hurt,
and we can all pretend that.
Every championship, you got to have breaks.
But we can pretend that they were down 0-2,
and the NBA had to bring in Scott Foster.
He got two wins, right?
We're not going to pretend.
Two wins.
We're not about to discount they did.
No, but I said we can pretend that it didn't happen.
We can pretend that it didn't happen.
But how has the offense been since then?
Yep.
They've been struggling.
They've been having problems against
miami in the playoffs can't score so there is a big problem there and we're scared to regret no
one wants to talk about it because the champions and it's an mvp and we pretend that you can't get
better i think it's a match-up problem i don't know the Miami just matched up good again. Wasn't the reason for bringing Dame to do what he's doing?
Yeah.
So...
Well, yeah.
That's before Doc got there.
Yeah.
But you got to understand, even with Dame, you got to score 90 points between your three
best players, at least 90.
Always.
Or 80-something points.
Yeah.
So even with all this talk with Dame, Gianana still got to get it. Yeah, he does
He got to get absolutely putting in pick and roll is not him getting it
He's okay in that but that he know you got to give it to him and letting do it
No, not his strength pick and roll
Throw back to Yannis
The not a weak side what we doing?
Yannis is forced to do what?
Right. How you go one on one what Miami? What are we doing? Giannis is forced to do what? Right?
Go one-on-one.
What Miami did.
That's what Miami Heat did.
So he don't shoot it.
That year that they lost, when Giannis came back, they literally picked,
Giannis is going to pop.
We're going to deny the catch and pass pick and roll on the weak side.
We're going to deny that.
And we're going to force Giannis to take the ball from the top and make a play. And what we're going to do when he starts dribble? We're going to deny that and we're going to force Giannis to take the ball from the top Most and make a play and what we're gonna do when he starts dribble
We're gonna load the fuck up and he gonna turn it over what team that's what happens
He's a Miami he they the only team that could have got that off look
Came back. They know this will print so this year everyone's seeing that shit and we're like, okay
This way Yana's don't like to do
He wants to catch it and swing it and go to the weak side so he can come
Off it ain't working though. It ain't working around the league. It ain't like it's working
It's only a few times where it's working, but it's a record what they still
Like it's working around the league they figured it out
The heat is just you know, it's supposed to fall 24 the Bucks are currently 44 24
So it's not like the league and figure y'all is out. That ain't what it is. You just what was the genius?
No, no, you trying though you hold it off
You know in the play but you know in the playoffs round around it ain't the same you can go from
averaging 50 in one round and
Being a decoy in the second round to get out of that round.
Yeah.
I don't know if a lot of players know that.
That happened to me.
Giannis and Dame ain't going to never be no decoy, though.
You got it.
Giannis is going to be 30 and 15 no matter what.
And that might take it.
And that's why the L's happen.
No, no, no.
This is a true story.
We're playing the Bulls in the playoff, first round.
Regular season, I averaged 33 against them.
They couldn't stop me for nothing.
Nothing.
Struggled first game against them.
Second game, thinking it's cakewalk.
Scottie Pippen called Drew Clary.
Drew Clary was his personal trainer there.
Scottie Pippen said,
he's going to have to be a decoy.
The Bulls is not going to let him win this series, him doing him.
If he wants to get out of the first round,
and that team is going to be successful,
he has to pass the ball.
He can't average 30.
He averaged about 15 to 20 they can beat the bulls because
they're not prepared for him to pass the ball right you were guard i had to look at those
first two games watching this rotate load up yep and said damn he right right you're a guard
i'm the scorer though I'm the number one option
So I had to take a back seat
How is Giannis going to take a back seat
He going to get the rebound
And he going to get 30
He going to get the rebound
He going to get 30 because he don't even need to play
What I'm saying is I don't need him getting the rebound
Trying to dribble down
You do need that
How do you not need that
That might work in one round. That might
not work against Miami. So he played
Miami. He might have to be a decoy
because Miami knows he don't want to be
a decoy. Kyle Lowry's getting charges because he's
loading up in the lane. Charge.
You name it Miami Heat.
The Miami Heat is
the most different
team out there, man.
Spoh is the most different.
Round one. First round. the most different. Round one, first round.
If he played in round one,
he might have to have 15
and 15 assists. They're going to lose
if that happens. There's not going to be enough points scored.
You got to score at least 110, 120
points. Who's going to score?
Even if they have 50, you got to have
more points scored.
15 points,
he might need 15 assists to get that 60 some 30 yeah who's gonna score though he got 15 assists somebody's four you got you got other
shooters on the floor that he's gonna be passing to so you mean tell me they ain't gonna go for 40
and then four other dudes are gonna have 20 he don't gotta go for that ain't never happened he
ain't gotta go before we can tell you right now him trying to do it the way he's doing,
he keeps taking the L to them, period.
So the Milwaukee Bucks, second in the East right now, 44-24.
The current seventh seed, the Miami Heat.
Let's move on to the most defense.
No one cares, Gil.
Let's move on to the most defense.
No, no, no, no, no.
That was a good one.
I don't want to see that in the first round.
I don't want to see that in the first round. I don't want to see that in the first no. That was a good one. I don't want to see that in the first round.
I don't want to see that in the first round.
I don't want to see that in the first round.
That was a good one.
But the sixth seed is the Pacers,
so that's even worse for them.
Pacers 4-1 against the Bucs this season.
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How do y'all be picking these underdog user names?
That's just like when I used to pick.
You remember... Like Black Dick. Where do I be picking these other dog username? That's just like when I'm used to pick you remember um, like black dick
Was a Yahoo
You used to have them funny name I got AOL. Don't do that. That's not you. That's me. You got what? That was my name.
I'm with Whoopi Goldberg, though.
I make panties wet.
I make panties wet at Yahoo.com.
That was your username?
You know how hard it is?
How old were you with that username?
I'm 17.
So you took that to college with you?
No, no, I got that in college.
So now think about when you...
You could have changed it.
I didn't know that.
You know, like when you go to the NBA know, like, when you go to the NBA...
And you knew it.
You just didn't want to.
No, no, you go to the NBA.
Like, you know, telling college girls that's your name.
They're like, oh, that's so crazy.
You go to the...
Like, you leave and get drafted, and then, you know, you start, like, trying to fill
out paperwork.
And I'm like, yeah, can we have an email?
And you're like, ooh.
Ooh.
Let me write it down for you. Let me write it down for you.
Let me write it down for you because you don't want to say it out loud.
You start to realize how immature you really was.
Oh, wow.
I'm a penny with that cop.
Oh, wow.
I am a.
Feel free to.
K-E.
Feel free to email Gil at that email.
He will respond.
All right, so I'll be the worst name.
I still got it. First question. No got it first question. I got no chill Gil
first question that fam God body underdog user name the
Girls are they belongs to the internet now your your get your email belongs to the streets now which line wasn't that hard?
If you really got no is try a couple of them.
That's the password, too, though.
Is it zero at the end?
Is it a not zero?
Which one is it?
Which line of work would you enjoy the most, politics, retail, or culinary?
Definitely not politics.
Okay.
What?
Culinary?
I guess you don't like the lying debate.
I'm just like...
I'm...
I'm Hollywood.
I'm gonna make this food and serve the people.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm thinking about it.
Cooking.
Yeah.
I've been barbecuing lately.
It is fun.
It is fun.
I am.
I'm thinking culinary.
Retail.
I ain't got the patience to deal with people like that.
You can get them in. You people like that. What you want?
Politics is too much of a headache.
Which line of work would you enjoy the most, politics, retail, or culinary?
I feel like asking you this question, it could have a double meaning.
Retail isn't like something to do.
Retail work or culinary work?
So I get to sell shit, right?
Or political work?
Retail could be a lot of different things.
You know.
Yeah.
Purveyor of goods.
Wholesale retail.
I'm going to say retail.
Okay.
I'm going to say retail.
Buy for five, sell it for ten.
What are you selling if you don't mind me asking?
You know what I'm selling.
Y'all know what I'm selling.
Jiggy Pan, LeBron, I'm paying the way way.
I'm just saying.
I'm setting it up today to
The topic that we talked about earlier in workshop the work
Yeah, the work you got to get the work to work for you. You set up your business your corp
I'm saying get your salaries, right workers compensation. I got the shoes on there's no work
type of
Which line of workers your compensation enjoy the Workers' compensation? Enjoy the workers' compensation.
Probably culinary.
Culinary?
Yeah.
You said culinary as well.
No, I'm a politician, baby.
Okay.
I get to lie.
I get to lie
and just troll, baby.
With a bold, straight face.
With a straight face.
I got a video
of him doing just that.
With a straight face.
Just sitting there
just lying to the American.
He commutes it.
What? Come on, man politicians of politicians are funny if you just like listen to them i just don't like being puppets i'm almost
puppets no i mean i didn't have to be i don't have to be good at it right no i mean most of them are
not good most of them are not good yeah is it how much you get paid to say what you need to say what
they tell you to say or i can just say whatever I wanted to say until you find me as that poor to you
I'm a treat most people to end up like that. I end up becoming president. I'm a treat
Yeah, I'm a treat. I'll tell you to say and then you think you're gonna take my money and leave
You showed up and we won't suicide
Suicide he was the happiest dude ever. I'm gonna use my politics just like I use
IG
Troll all day.
Oh, man.
So, going home like, you see what they said about you?
Not at all.
I got some more shit tomorrow.
Our next question, video question from underdog user The Roman Empire.
What up, Gil Zarina?
How y'all doing today?
He black.
My question for y'all is, would you rather palm block a Kobe fade or dunk on Mike with Jordan for game?
Hold on, say that one more time.
Let me know, man.
So, the question is, would you rather palm block a Kobe fade away or dunk on Mike to win a game?
Palm block a Kobe fade away or dunk on Mike to win a game?
That's a real, like, come on, bro.
We'll be the, like, Goobies or something.
I'm dunking on Mike, bro.
First of all, but...
I've already blocked Kobe.
I'm dunking on the Mike.
I got it. I'm saying dunking on Mike. I'm dunking on Mike, though girl. I'm dunking on the mic, first of all, but- I've already blocked Kobe. I'm dunking on the mic. I got a piece of you.
I'm staying dunking on Mike.
I'm dunking on Mike, though.
Yeah, me too.
Neither.
Yeah, I don't like that question either, but-
Neither.
Nothing associated with anything that that question has to,
okay.
She can't dunk or block.
Neither.
I'm dunking on Cheryl.
Cheryl Rashad dunking.
That ain't gonna happen.
No, no, you ever try to dunk on WNBA?
That ain't gonna happen.
You never dunked on my sister before.
Yeah, that's your sister.
That's your sister.
Yeah, you ever tried to, I had to play, I used to play Elena Beard.
I did. One on one.
Monique Curry and Elena.
They was at Duke.
But you couldn't dunk on her?
That ain't gonna happen, next question.
They just chuck you right out there.
Not if they like you.
Not if they like you.
He always got his strides.
You know he likes you.
It ain't even about liking you or not.
Nah, look, I was being guarded tougher than I was in NBA with Elaine.
Clothesline, tripping.
Because we actually played defense in the game.
Yeah, it was clothesline.
And they had
to let it be no I had to how's hacking like like no I was gonna get payback
I'm not gonna just let you clip me and then we do that laying on good rotation
cuz I'm hey I will get you that's because he was really trying to compete
no yeah no no no he's serious it was like yo like what relax yeah one day
like that no but it's because like we hear this all the time from guys.
Like, oh, I can beat you one-on-one.
Yep.
Like, it's a daily conversation.
And I was saying that, too.
So it gets to a point where it gets old after a while.
Well, just because you're fouling me, you know what I mean?
And you're going to foul me every time.
No, no, no.
No.
Every time.
Every time you're going to foul me.
When I go for the layup, boom.
Yeah, you're going to foul.
Damn.
That's a foul. Are you going to keep calling fouls the whole time? Yeah, you stop. I keep getting the ball back. Hey
Keep getting the ball back. I'm just not gonna let you check me out of bounds
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Sure, we appreciate you pulling up a new name. I'm done with agent 12
Call me freaking 12 now
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