Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates The NBA's Most Dominant Big Man

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Gil's Arena Debates The NBA's Most Dominant Big Man as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew breaks down the games of Nikola Jokic and Joel Embiid discuss which of the 2 MVPs is the more dominant pl...ayer. They also analyze Victor Wembanyama's first game in Madison Square Garden where the San Antonio Spurs took on the New York Knicks before discussing the ludicrous ejection that sent Giannis Antetokounmpo home early from last night's Milwaukee Bucks Game. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $500 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 CJ Stroud - "Hoopers Wanna Be Baseball Players" 0:08:24 Wemby Struggles at The Garden 0:20:55 Jokic's Continued Dominance 0:45:44 Is Jokic The Most Complete Big Man 0:57:00 Comparing the Dominance of Jokic vs Shaq 1:04:34 Giannis' BS Ejection 1:17:03 The 76ers Success Without Harden 1:30:49 Dillon Brooks Locks Up Lebron James  1:46:17 ESPN's Top 25 Player Under 25 List 1:57:35 MostlyFans 2:12:20 Breaking News - Iggy's New Job 2:28:46 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:02 Oh, no. Dolce. Oh, a little Dolce, man. He said a little Dolce. Something like Thursday. So our last show of the week, here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Wimby made his debut in Madison Square Garden
Starting point is 00:03:17 and got locked up like a felon. His Joker, their most dominant center offensively in NBA history. And we already talked about that ESPN Top 100 list. Obviously, we had some thoughts. But ESPN dropped their Top 25 Under 25 list. But which young star should feel the most disrespected amongst that crew? But before we get into all that, as always,
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Starting point is 00:04:05 So I did the pick-ems yesterday. They had AD on the list. I think it was like 39.5 points rebound assist against the Rockets. I took the lower. Facts. Man didn't play. Facts. Didn't count it.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Damn. I fucked up the other picks too, but nonetheless, like, I took the lower. He had lower than what y'all said, underdog. Stand on business. Stand on business. But it's all good. And as always, we do mostly fans. I went four for four yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Are we one again? Yeah. Yo, I missed them one other day. Football. They had Kareem Hunt at 38 and a half yards. Piss you off. I took the higher. you off. That's how many yards here 38 38 yeah, yeah, yeah, he couldn't fall for You dirty some the worst the worst when they do that or they go over,
Starting point is 00:05:07 but then they just start running the ball late in the game, getting like two or three yard losses, and you watch it have to come back from green to. Oh, I ain't had that one yet. That one, yeah. I didn't mean it at all. That's stressed out, right? That's stressed out. Quarterback three yards.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, get the rushing. He want to run out of bounds before he can get that extra yard. Hold the ball up. I thought I had beef with underdog at first, but now it's just the players. Yeah, but now it's the players. Y'all pissing me off. Listen, this is what I did. Like, Jalen Smith, Utah, dude with the glasses.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Obviously, he can't shoot no threes. So I took the lower on.5. He ain't making no threes the glasses. Obviously he can't shoot no So I took the lower on 0.5 that he making no threesome glasses and then and then Kelly from Utah You don't even score enough to make one three. All right Thd right Plus three rebounds. I took it. let's go. Yeah. And then Miles Turner... Uh...
Starting point is 00:06:08 Blocks? No, he had, uh... 1.5 threes. Oh, he's gonna shoot threes, for sure. What, a 10? Yeah, you're gonna shoot them, but you gotta make two. Make two? Can't give you under.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Oh, make two. Yeah! Oh, fuck. Oh, that's what you won with? Yes. Then you bet against... He bet against it. Miles Turner, friend of the program. The make two th three, yeah, I took all big man making threes. Give me my 500 under give me my 500
Starting point is 00:06:34 Feel bad when I do like higher on turnovers where you never want to cheer on somebody to me I was somebody like I had like look ahead nine turnovers. I'm like nigga. He's definitely gonna I had a great Sunday. Don which you would you get going? football boilers, I had a basketball shit Y'all seen the mostly fans bumper and I get the most defense voice back Can we roll the mostly fans bumper one more time to hear you working on it? Ladies and gentlemen mostly fans that find her dog fantasy If you drop a good question, which underdog fantasy username will give you a $50 bonus It's like the old
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Starting point is 00:08:11 but let's get into it. Texas' number two overall pick, C.J. Stroud, has been cooking on the field his rookie season. Past Sunday, set an NFL record for passing with 470 yards. He also included five tees and no picks against the Bucs. He also got to meet who I
Starting point is 00:08:26 think is the goal LeBron James at the Lakers Rockets game they show love to each other you already know it's an Ohio thing but uh he also made some interesting comments on uh Hoopers and what they want to be basketball players want to be football players and football players want to be basketball players and we all want to play baseball. Now I know hoopers want to be rappers. Rappers want to be hoopers. Sometimes the work wants to be wifey. Sometimes wifey wants to be the work. But do hoopers want to be football players and do they both want to be baseball players? That's a good transition there, boy. I'll high five you right now. I went too far away. High five the champ. What is he doing? I never know why it's wanted to be work but I guess that is right when they start cheating. You went from one to two? God damn. Head of your business. Head of your business. Should've let me know. I know I shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Let's go with y'all, man. Shouldn't have done that. Not like, um... Nothing? Nothing? I mean, usually, I mean, usually, you know, when you're growing up,
Starting point is 00:09:33 you know, um, usually sports is in different, you know, seasons, so a lot of players, you know, when he wasn't playing basketball, he was, you know, playing, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:44 football or baseball. At that age, you tried to play everything. Parents didn't want you in the house. That was the main thing. Take your ass somewhere. What sport did y'all all start playing basketball? What sport did y'all start playing first and then you transitioned to hoops?
Starting point is 00:09:58 Football. Football was first. But like he said, we played everything. We in the hood, we had a thing called the backyard. And in the backyard, we had, like, a baseball field, football field, and one of the homies had one of his little water basketball courts, which put the water in there. So we used to always play everything, you know what I'm saying? So football was my first thing, quarterback, running back. So I got a little understanding of where that's coming from, for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So do you feel like C.J. Stroud is right when he said Hoopers want to be football players? Not want to be. They don't get to work like we get to work. They got the helmets on and shit. That's always my point with football. It was like 50 to 80. In college, it's like 100 on the roster. Helmets. Too many numbers. We good.
Starting point is 00:10:46 No facial identity. We all went to college and we all had our fan bases. We would not trade in that college fan base to put on a helmet and play some football. Hell no. I'm cool where I'm at, for sure. Can you agree? Disagree? No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:03 We all played it all growing up. So there's a familiarity with it so yes Yeah, yeah, I was decent at all three so shit I could I could have probably played all three So why did you I play basketball first? Okay, and I kept growing shit, I Would I wouldn't see in many six, eight and a half football players at the time. Yeah, too tall. Like playing tight end and defensive end, like wasn't too many.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Man, I was. Like people, yeah. I was tall and aggressive. And yeah, but basketball was my first sport. My mom, believe it or not, I got in a fight. My mom took me to the gym. Like you're going to do something besides get in trouble. So in my neighborhood, it was the Salvation Army was our local gym and where everybody
Starting point is 00:11:52 played sports at. It wasn't like the boys club and no shit like that. It was our rec center. So yeah, we had people there to try to keep us out of trouble. So it encouraged everybody to play all the sports. So yeah. Were y'all good at hoops your whole life? I was baseball.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I was baseball and football. So my family's sport was baseball. I went to Helsinki Fiddling at 12 years old, playing the World Championship. So I was always athletic. OK. Always athletic. Kenyon was a guy, right?
Starting point is 00:12:24 We all used to's twice wrestling right? Can you look at him like he'd undertaken? He won't run that corner. Oh She is somebody about to get choked slams today But to that point that's some real shit for you here at UCLA I think you had the cast on it was like right before the draft or whatever it was and you're just sitting in a chair I remember looking at you and I was like, I'm not gonna fuck Take her man Don't let that nigga get up all
Starting point is 00:12:55 What was going on in your mind? Then around that time yeah, I was on Then when I got help when I got healthy and we started playing again up there, man, strobe my ass up there, motherfucker. I used to be up there watching him. He was dunking that shit and doing shit, man. I used to be over there, motherfucker, salivating. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Just don't know how hard I'm working in this motherfucker to come back. You have no idea. Man. So it seemed like 50-50 split. Hoopers want to be football players. Some do, some don't. Who gets better bags though? It's crazy like Mahomes bag is basically like...
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, football players would love to have our freedom. Me talking to them offline. And our guaranteed money. Freedom and guaranteed money. Those two things, they are so under there like this umbrella of this this shield and these teams that there's no free thinking it's like they they are machines and robots and and definitely the guarantee it's the guarantee money endorsements I'm saying the TV spots all the shit you know we grew up watching
Starting point is 00:14:02 basketball players do football players don't have that many celebrities. You got Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, all the quarterbacks they put in there. Then they finally start throwing Adrian Peterson, Barry Sanders, those type of guys, but it's becoming more diverse. But they still not getting the shit we get. The helmets. I just want to say some of them dudes, yeah, but they hard to market because you still not getting the shit we get. You know what I'm saying? The helmets. I don't know. Some of them dudes, yeah, but they hard to market because you don't know who they are. You don't know who they are. Unless you playing key positions, quarterback, and you rush for 2,000 yards or you break
Starting point is 00:14:39 the sacks record or some shit, then you can be on TV like Michael Strahan. Well, even Derrick Henry, we don't really see him in commercials and shit like that. This is fucked up to say, but it's hard to market. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Tennessee. No, no, I'm saying Dredds, big black guy. He owns certain commercials that they, but not like it should be for who he is for the NFL.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Right. That's the thing. Yes. Like when you're talking about marketing, I need to sell this product. Yeah, I need to, yeah. Right, when I put you on a billboard and we drive by, what does that billboard look like? Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, and that's it. Right, and that's basically it. Yeah, you listen to Marshawn Lynch, he used to tell me I need to cut his dress and stuff like that, like in order to be more marketable and all that. He's like, I'm not cutting my hair. Right, right. This is me. You're going to accept me for who I am, and that's what they should be.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Somebody asked me before, somebody wanted me to do something, and they wanted me to cut my... I'm not cutting my facial hair for y'all. How much? For the checkbook? How much? How much? I can throw it back. I can throw it back. Except for what it was.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Since I finished this goddamn... No, but for what it was. No, for what it was, it wasn't... Like, if it would have been something that I thought would have led to something more of what it was... Yeah, something worth it. But not off... No, we're not finna do this just because this, nah. Were there any sports you guys tried to play that you weren't fucking with?
Starting point is 00:16:12 Fucking athlete, bro. I'm nice. I was great at everything. Everything. Like, I was great at everything. Nice as shit, bro. Still. Great at everything.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Tennis. Tennis. Bowling. Pool. Golf. Anything that I tried to be decent at, like, put time in, and I'm like, okay, I'm going to work at it. I'm fucking good at it.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like, when I said I was, like, faster than John Wall, people laugh. I ran a 10-3 in high school as a sophomore. I ran track. Wind aided or track? I was a 400 runner, and my idol in the 400 was a dude named Obi Moore, right? They go they'll Google him like he was the Michael Jordan of high school track like he was the shit Right, and then he went to the 96 Olympics And didn't qualify right he was only 17 years old so came back y'all see Obi yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, he had the braids the kid the young kid with braids. And I was like, so what does he do? They was like, oh, yeah, you know, four more years for the Olympics. And I said, wait, he got to be broke for four more years? Oh, I quit. Man, quit. I didn't go back to, I did not run track again. And then started focusing on basketball. I ran a 4.64 there as a sophomore, 6.6.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I ran a 4.4. No, he never, I never ran a 4 6 40 as a sophomore 6 6 Ran a fofo 6 6 moving down it That's moving Yeah, I mean we had to be athletes, but I mean listen you challenge me and whatever badminton You know the top field hockey rowing what you want to do you want those darts? Oh, actually, you got what you want to do you want those darts Oh X you got what you want to do CeeLo dice crap Everything there Xbox PlayStation Atari What's up? We do what all I learned how to play CeeLo within like one evening. We was in Colorado Springs World University joint. Mm-hmm. We was playing shooting dice
Starting point is 00:18:05 They were at a crap game going on this side They was playing see do these goes playing CeeLo over here and they look more interesting. God know how to read What's this three dice Let me watch this for a second I got it. Let's get it. Ah, let me. Many per diem checks have been squandered. Oh, woo. Boo Ray.
Starting point is 00:18:30 What? Boo Ray. No, the per diem. We get to the hotel. Right on the trip. Take the quilt off the bed. The sheet. Nice dice game in the hotel room.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Somebody didn't eat a lot of College Road chips. A lot. Shit. NBA road trip too eat a lot of college road we didn't get on the plane all the way we're gonna check that hey we need that rehab hey how do you get my face back brother look I need to get my face back yeah you bowl oh yeah you bowl lightly y'all bowl we need to go bowling then uh-huh I was at the Corbin Lanes this weekend with the kids. You're calling the kids, we need to bowl in the kitchen. Eight or better.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Eight or better. You got to hit an eight or better, 20 or down. Put the bumpers up. Yeah. Getting smoked by my children. Throw the motherfuckers on the side. I want to see who got it. Who can bake it.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. Gildan got me already in the bowling. I ain't going to lie. Oh, y'all already did it? Nah, I ain't no bowler, bowling. I ain't gonna lie He is We gonna see I'm gonna take you for as you know how so you don't He don't like you the way I don't like you warming up before you get there. None of that. See don't we warm it up?
Starting point is 00:19:51 Got a brand new ball roll. I came warm up with no no the communal balls. They don't do they spray those down No, I don't really like putting my so you bring your own see I'm gonna bring your own ball man Not as wealthy as you gentlemen yet. I got my Broth stop When I can brag about money cuz you ain't got child support to worry about man But you live with You in the other room You in the other room Like me I That's different. You in the other room. The rest of us is like, man, I ain't no, I don't got nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah, I got nothing, bro. This is community service. I can't pay attention out this bitch, boy. It costs to pay attention, boy. It costs too much. Let's keep this thing moving on to some real basketball subjects. Wimby made his first appearance in the Garden, but before the game, he wasn't impressed with the league's most iconic arena pretty incredible you know it's not as big as I
Starting point is 00:20:49 expected this Taylor virus here like it smells like hot dogs why does it smell like that by the bus is what he should have asked this is not like trash so the Knicks didn't like that shit one bit. Locked Wimby up like he was in Rikers. And their fans' overrated chance even had the French broadcast cracking up. Remember, that was the case in Becquic. Everyone wants to play. Of course. And Madison Square Garden is getting mad.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Overrated for Victor Mbayama. Overrated. Welcome to Madison Square Garden. Welcome to New York. Fuck off, man. Niggas out here hacking me and shit. So the translation of the caption on that tweet was, Wimby was indeed baptized by Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Finished the game with 14 points, nine boards. Went four for 14 from the field, 0 for four from three. He did make all six of his free throws, though. But he was a team leading minus 25 for the game. Mitchell Robinson on the Knicks embraced the challenge. Had Wimby looking like Baguette Bowl Bowl. 0 for six when Robinson was his primary defender. Damn.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So thoughts on Wimby getting locked up in the garden? Damn, that's a slow blow right there. Baguette Bowl Bowl. garden There's gonna be a lot of those nights ahead, you know, I mean this he's the He's the new face. So, you know people gonna take that challenge to heart and that's when he gonna have to realize that Every game you gonna have to come to show your dominance because every game you're playing, you're getting everybody's A+. No, you're not going to go to no arena where the person that's defending you is giving you a C or B-. He's going to come and give you the best game of his life defensively. I think that's the best thing for him right now.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Coasting up until February, he needs to be able to go into these places, like New York, see what the temperature is for him. First game, everybody really don't get the memo of what you got to do when you go to New York. When you fly into New York City, you cannot have no bad game if you want that fanfare on your side. So for him, not having a good game is not bad for him right now because it's his first game.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Next couple, he's going to learn how important playing in Madison Square is for the other games that you go on on this East Coast trip, right? It's just that carryover. I think he'll be good. He'll be fine. I don't think it's going to bother him too much. He's just got to keep going. The world was like, oh, shit, he scored 30. Yo, we going, we going. Uh-huh. The games before that, this was normal rookie stuff. Uh-huh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Like, and let me just say this. That was ESPN ass get. That's what y'all get. Yeah. Y'all didn't put Philly and Boston on TV. Right? You didn't put Philly and Boston on TV, which is a good matchup, early season matchup,
Starting point is 00:23:52 but you put the rookie on TV and they get the doors blew off. Yeah. Ratings. People turned the TV. Nobody finished watching that. Nope. Real shit. The other game came down to the last possession. TV. Mm-hmm. Nobody finished watching that. Nope. Real shit. The other game came down to the last possession. TV. TV. So, but, yeah, no, this was, people got overexcited. Generation of talent,
Starting point is 00:24:16 yes. Still a rookie. Mm-hmm. To your point, number one pick. You're going to get everybody's best shot. Because I did. Yeah. Because I did. For real. For real, no. Yeah, they bringing it. You feel like you got a target on your back coming into your rookie season? Hell yeah. Number one pick. You ain't going to be doing that athletic shit on me.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You ain't going to dunk on me. You ain't going to be doing that. Yes. But you got everybody's best shot, which allowed you to know going into the second matchups what you was gonna get absolutely you knew like I know what you're gonna know what you want you gave me your best shot I ain't worried about your ass no more nigga so you wanna and that's what let me figure out the NBA early yep like halfway through my rookie year to the point we talking about yesterday like I figured it out halfway through my rookie year like my strengths with what
Starting point is 00:25:02 advantages I had what who I needed to be more of this with. I figured that out halfway through my rookie year. Yep. Because I was getting everybody's best shot every night. Was there like a particular moment or something that helped you figure it out?
Starting point is 00:25:16 It was just, everybody, it was the approach. Number one to pick. They want a piece. Yeah, it was the approach. Every day, I just,
Starting point is 00:25:22 I knew dudes who were great at this level, but it was just, you know when somebody's trying more than they. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying you feel it. It's like every position. You see how free-flowing it is at times, and guys being able to get off and all that, but when you get the ball as a number one pick and a rookie, you. A little tighter.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's like, damn, my nigga, you ain't playing. Every touch is contested, every shot contested, everything is magnified because you're number one pick. Whether you're playing great or you're not, everything is magnified. So that's what he's dealing with now in the era of this social media monster that we deal with daily, everything is the microwave society.
Starting point is 00:26:13 They expect him to be great right now. And when he's not, they chant overrated, which he's not. How long do you feel like you had that target on your back as the number one pick? Is it just a rookie year thing? Did it extend beyond that? Does it follow you your whole career? Probably not your whole career because mine was the first three, the first four years because we was kicking people's ass out there.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It was beyond that. We were running through the East. So, and I'm, you know, I'm I'm not quiet with it. Yeah, you playing well you playing well and I'm out to put my hands on people I'm filing people even my people I'm swinging. It's just it's a lot So yeah mine lasted for probably longer than it should have but it was I Embraced it I didn't I didn't shy away from it it was
Starting point is 00:27:06 let's go let's get it the realness of it even what you're talking about now and how KG and other aggressive players approached it is like for Wimby if he could sit back and smile at knowing what's coming at him
Starting point is 00:27:24 that second tail end of the season is going to hit if he could sit back and smile at knowing what's coming at him, that second tail end of the season is going to hit, and he's going to literally be able to look at them like they're little boys because it's like you literally just gave me your best shot two months ago. I'm getting better every day. So your approach as Wimby is just I know what you're going to give me. It's about my coach putting me in a position to succeed now because I'm comfortable with knowing you're going to foul me, you're going to play me this type of way, you're going to get me. It's about my coach putting me in a position to succeed now because I'm comfortable with knowing you're going to foul me, you're going to play me this type of way,
Starting point is 00:27:48 you're going to try to deny the ball here, you're going to try to do a bunch of shit. And to what you were saying about Embiid, I watched his game. He started doing a lot more of what you were saying as far as being a lot more aggressive. But Wemby, once he finds out he can use that side of it, it'll be good. It'll be good to see,
Starting point is 00:28:06 because these rookies do shy away from all of that shit, for sure. For a record, Knicks are second in defensive efficiency this season, so it's not like he was playing some bums on the defensive side of the ball. And the way this NBA is, he's not playing against Mitchell Robinson every night, just taking that challenge. Yes, sir. It's not that kind of yes but no.
Starting point is 00:28:28 It's got certain guys. For the most part, he's going to be able to play freely. He's going to have some nights where he shoots the hell out of it. He plays great. Yep. He's going to have some nights where he isn't here. He's going to have some nights that he struggles. But I think it's going to be more good nights because of the way the NBA is
Starting point is 00:28:48 and the freedom of movement. I would hope that Pop would just run, like, get him more touches. He shouldn't only shoot six free throws. 100%. Like, put him in positions that you used to put Tim in. Mm-hmm. Like, put him in positions that you used to put Tim in. Mm-hmm. Put him in those positions. And that would then, the skills that he has and shooting ability and all that stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:13 I think he'll flourish in a few of those old sets that they were in. Like, you run some of that wedge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wedge roll. 124 out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, run some of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, move around type sheets yeah, they should what he should watch film on how he was played here how that player played him and Train on that on this that is if that is the extreme that you felt. Yeah the toughness the the aggression Train for that type of play that means everything else becomes easier for you. It's a cakewalk. And this person here, you are ready for next time. Film is the easiest thing to watch that is underrated.
Starting point is 00:30:16 If you don't know what no one does, everyone's a superstar. Everyone's a superstar if you don't know what they do. If you sit there and watch a player all day, watch his mannerisms, right? You will realize, oh, I thought he went left and right. He only goes right. He just fake it all the time. He sets you up. He sets you up for the right. Come back like, oh, I'm going to just stay on this of him cut out cut out half of his game, right? When you start watching players for their flaws
Starting point is 00:30:49 You will realize how Sorry, they really are but no one likes to watch film on the only the elite elite watch film Right. Other than that if you just watch film you will realize Alright when he turns his left shoulder, he's coming to block. All right. Got you. How many guys do you know only watch the team edit? Oh, man. The niggas that... Right?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Only watch the team edit. They ain't watching individual tennis. They ain't watching none of that shit. So that shit is a highlight film. Yep. Yes. Right? That is a highlight film because they showing everybody's best plays, best moves, best...
Starting point is 00:31:24 The ball, every mate, mate. They show nobody missing it Like the motherfucker don't never miss like now show me some shit what he didn't do. Well, yeah, so that's what I said, man Show me the other shit. Don't show me that. Yes. I need to hold full clip. Give me the phone again First have I'm giving all his touches. For sure. Give me all his touches for the last four games. As I said, I used to just watch anybody who made the all-defensive team. Give me their plays. Give me everything they do on defense. And then I sit there in the summer and just watch.
Starting point is 00:32:01 All right, so when this guy go by him, he's going to snap from the back. I'm watching all the tendencies. So that's what I'm training on. As soon as I go by him, I know this guy is going to try to go Iggy. I know as soon as you go by Iggy, he's going to try here. So I know when I get by him, throw it a little bit extra, right? This guy likes to hold, grab that arm a little bit. Hey!
Starting point is 00:32:21 Or you hold in the hand check, smack it real quick as Reverend I gonna call that like all that played a part And you have to really watch film to realize Everyone has everyone has tendencies everyone has go-to moves everyone has telltale signs Yesterday They got this thing I heard in this clip talking about Caruso stop Katie. No Katie got to his spot. He just fucking missed Yeah, like that's like come on now like any made like we won't get to a win, right? Yeah, yeah, what are the go right? All right, what right? Got this spot just a little short
Starting point is 00:32:57 And they give credit to the defense when we make mistakes absolutely that we make the mistake like Katie brung it down Allow him to do that. It's like oh that's good defense it's no kd no he know better than that kd know better than that there's times when i did something hit a great shot and i'm like no it's good d i just i just just a better offensive yeah absolutely i mean there's some times where i scored 40 something and like no he played good d like i was just on that day And there was days where dude's horrible at the defensive end. Yeah, I was three for fucking 14. But defensively, he was trash. But anytime I wanted to get by him, he was back there somewhere. Backline helped him out. Like, you know, you see that everyone just goes by the number of what you did. Like, nah, he's good, he's
Starting point is 00:33:42 bad. Going back to the footage thing, when you're talking about film, when you see what a good defender is in film because he's playing team defense and he's making adjustments on the fly and shit that you like, damn, I think it was on the nail two possessions ago. Now he's blitzing. He's like doing the runner in the middle. He the middle, the mic back. And so I like breaking it down from that standpoint just simply because as an offensive player,
Starting point is 00:34:09 watching film, you get to actually analyze all of that shit. You get to break it all down. That's most important for the new generation. They think that's boring preparation. It's watching film when it's the best part of the game. I can't wait until we open up the other side We start watching this shit. I like being able to stop that mother. Yeah, stop it and talk
Starting point is 00:34:29 I listen I love it. I'd be at the house me and my wife watching games I'm pausing And break put I wish I had the little red laser thing that we can control. Look at this nigga right here. Girl, look where he's supposed to be. He's supposed to be right here. I was trying to show her yesterday. I couldn't even. The fucking shit wasn't going on yesterday. I'm like, baby, baby, baby, baby.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Stop. Baby, baby, baby, stop. Hey, can you just come sit down and watch this? I'm in there getting my Bill Burr on. I'm in there just angry. I have to remove this motherfucker. Hey, I started doing that shit on regular movies. For real?
Starting point is 00:35:06 Like, look, how he change his shoes this fast? He had dinner. He had red shoes right here, and then he got black shoes right here. Oh, my God. You can see the boom mic. Look, the boom mic. The mic is in the... I can't watch nothing regular, man.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Everything is a breakdown. Yeah, you got... Everything is a fucking breakdown. Yeah, just being able to stop that shit, rewind it it go back to the spotlight. He should have well I wasn't like it's the best shit going brother. I love it. I've been able to watch The same he went left 17 times in a row When I watched the New York Knicks game, right and you know how like people say yeah man or back garden when it was Patrick you and him and When someone told me he's like yeah, man or back garden when it was um, Patrick you and him and
Starting point is 00:35:51 When someone told me that yet they were smarter right, I was smarter than you guys Basketball IQ and I'm sitting there Took me three plays They realize Patrick Ewing is going over his right shoulder every the whole game, right? So he got it on the right block. He wants to go baseline so he can do the fade. Right? If he's on the other side, he wants to grab the ball and hurry up and go middle so he can fade.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He rarely wins it. And I'm sitting here like, he's going baseline. He's going baseline. He's going baseline. He goes baseline. I thought y'all was smart. Y'all dumb. Let him do the sky hook.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Let him do the sky hook. He don't know. That ain in Kareem and handle jump They will turn around jump shot around jump shot got the whole goddamn mix unit. I could tell you this shit turn around Turnaround jump like he did like 98% I'm like this watching what do you want? You going you going right he's going right you all right all right I'll wait we all wait till you finish all that he is not Reports let you know that I just gotta watch him. I used to build him up listen
Starting point is 00:37:04 The hand got no left blinker his car Got tape on it Man Crazy for sure tendencies in the but if you're on watching it, you won't watch it. You won't know you're going for every move Yeah, you're going for everything in the like somebody do And that's why the defense is fucked up in the league because we're not watching tendencies of Luka, like they all have tendencies that could be broken down if you fucking watch the film and take the challenge.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Even with someone like Kyrie, right? Even with someone like Kyrie, you can tell he plays the game in a combo mode, right? Once you figure out the combo, there you go. Go, pop. Pop, pop. There you go. Shot.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Go, okay. Pop, pop. Go, okay. Pop, pop. Pop, pop. Go. Okay, so now you know every two dribbles, he means on the first dribble,
Starting point is 00:37:54 attack the ball. Oh. He took the ball right off my mouth. He took the ball right off my mouth. That's what I'm saying. If you know he has
Starting point is 00:37:59 a four-pound rhythm, same thing with James Harden. Be-bing, be-be-be-bing, be-be-be. Like, they have a rhythm that they play in once you figure it out attack it on the opposite like Gary Payton jr. right he gets it what he does is when he sees the ball leave your hand because he knows once it leaves your hand I'm going to get it I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it smart Like
Starting point is 00:38:25 Whoa Now you got the Bob cool. I'm trying to get away Oh, that's why when I say as a great offensive player, you have to know defense the best So if I'm doing something you stop me and lay King a You blocked me eight times. What were you doing? All right I seen once you was going right once you got past the free throw line, you already picked the ball up. So I know you committed.
Starting point is 00:38:49 You go left, you're not going as fast because you can't jump off that leg to go this way. Right? You got to learn. Okay, when you come here, you always do the Hesi like this and you're going to shoot it. So boom, your left hand to right is your crossover. This was a fake crossover. So you got it in this hand, you do this. i'm already jumping because i know you ain't going like those are the things you need to know from a guy who stops you if you stop me i'm asking questions and as you paying attention to the defender guarding like i'm not just gonna let him guard
Starting point is 00:39:19 me go to the bench and be like oh he was just in the way now that nigga's guarding you a certain way to try to stop you so if you don't be ahead of him, the next time you're out there, he gonna still keep touching, man, he keep touching the ball when I'm trying to he hate when a motherfucker, he keep touching the ball, like. Great as Z-Bo was. Mm-hmm. Great as he was.
Starting point is 00:39:39 No. No. No. He ain't going right. No. No. I ain't letting you go left, Z. I'm not. No. I'm not. No, I'm not no, I'm not no I am NOT No You go out every time so fadeaway He had his own defensive strategies every time different from the whole team. I can you play his own Defense nigga. It was the coldest shit everest shit ever because they had a whole strategy,
Starting point is 00:40:06 but it's like, oh, Kenyon and KG. He can't smell it. He's not going this way. He's not going that. He's just, I'm like, this nigga right here is my man. If you're trying to be great at your craft, you have to ask questions. Don't be like, I think people sometimes
Starting point is 00:40:19 be afraid to ask questions. Like, yo, you stopped me. How'd you stop me? What'd you look at? If he's really want to be great at his craft, he gonna tell you. You expose the ball. You do yo, you stopped me. How'd you stop me? What'd you look at? If he's really want to be great at his craft, he gonna tell you. You expose the ball. You do this, you do that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 All right, bet. See you in a month. See you in a month. Have you gotten better? Yeah, see you in a month. And then I get him, boom, he gonna adjust to that. And then see you in another month. That's the challenge.
Starting point is 00:40:41 That's what makes you better as a player. And I think no one respects each other craft like the only two people I like playing against each other is Kevin Durant and Tatum nah defense PJ PJ Tucker. Yeah, take it personal cuz if you know Kevin the rainbowambler yo, are you gonna play basketball football? Yeah. Yeah Right they really sit there and have conversations about the offense in the defense
Starting point is 00:41:15 That that right there is the best part of the matchup where they're actually having dialogue Well, that was a good challenge, but you too little. Well, then, all right, I'm going to catch you on the way. Like, they're sitting there trying to make each other better, and that's just amazing to me.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's like, this is what we're doing tonight, PJ? Yeah, yeah. This is what we're doing? What are we doing? Are we aggressive tonight, or what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Because I'm not trying to tussle with you tonight, my nigga. Like, for real, just trying to chill out. Oh, I love it. And that's what, like, I love the challenge of garden Colby. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:41:48 What my position? Never in opposition, but yeah I'm taking challenge You got some clips out there you but it's he worked for every single bucket But he had one a one go work It was being CD and Ian He had to go to the third counter. He had to bring it, but that was the chess match and that was the respect. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He got some shit off at times, absolutely, because he's one of the better scorers this game has ever seen. It was a challenge and it was a chess match because he's one of the better scorers this game has ever seen. So, yeah, it was a challenge, and it was a chess match, because he studied defenses, and I'm studying him. Did you take the challenge with Melo in practice, like head up, or did you give him a pass most of the time? I gave him a pass. Gave him a pass. Practice?
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah, practice. Because I could see, like, because if he's guarding, it'll be them, like. No, I had already, Melo rookie year year when I was still with the Nets, and we played them, and I guarded Mellow. And, yeah. Thank you for being on my team. Oh, yeah, no, Mellow knew, like, he was going up. Mellow quick.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm right there. He's going up. I'm giving him, like, all of it. He's got sweet sides. He's going to challenge me in practice. There's no point in practicing practicing because now it's just... No, I'm just saying that now I don't want to pass the ball to nobody. I'm at you.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Right, so me and Larry was just on opposites. It was just one of those things where when you're trying to fine-tune and now practice, you start talking trash. Like now, because now we got to run sets, that means I have the ball. Like it ain't no, all right, five possessions. I'm shooting all five now.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Uh-huh. Right? It became one of those. So it's like, yo, just, Chuckie, just stop.
Starting point is 00:43:35 We're trying to get something done and you keep challenging him. He going to just keep trying to score the whole time and we trying to call it Antoine play. Yeah, see, we had,
Starting point is 00:43:44 you know, we had that enough going on with Dante and JR. Oh, yeah, yeah, them two motherfuckers. The one year and a half, whatever it was, that was enough. Oh, yeah, Dante's like that, bro. Dante be doing that shit, man. Swishing that bitch, torching it. Like, Lord. Lord, get him off him.
Starting point is 00:44:02 JR and them motherfuckers shooting that bitch yesterday, man. Yo, that's when I really like. JR got that thing, thing. What? I thought JR was just an athlete when I first. Hell no. Hell no. He's a bugger getter.
Starting point is 00:44:15 He's good. Yeah. At the game of basketball. Yeah. Like, really good at the game of basketball. He was. Him being practicing. Mellow JR.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Mellow JR. That's why Chuck came JR JR trying to compete with Mellow and Allen went in jail another team. He's trying to people both for it No, they go. Yeah All three of them on the court at the same time, bro. You never knew it was gonna happen That was nasty. That was nasty. It was nasty. Let's keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Joker starting the season the same way he ended the last one, looking like the best player in the world. With Jamal Murray sideline for at least the rest of the month with the hamstring injury, Joker's been out there doing his thing. He had his second straight 35 plus point game. Look at Look at I mean, how do you stop that? I'm finna give you this. Let me let me I'm gonna we just talking about defense and stop Yeah, please tendencies and all this shit, right?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Let me know right let no no no no no fuck that let me know anybody reach for the ball Mm-hmm why he's going for his move Let me know the first time somebody tried to swipe the ball out of his hand or reach at it, poke at it when he in the post. Let me know the first time you see somebody do it. You're playing defense like this and he's bumping you and you're taking all the bumps on your chest.
Starting point is 00:45:38 What you do is nothing. There's no resistance there. Just because you're bumping him, you're not doing anything but letting him get to his comfortable spot where he's going to jump hook the out you absolutely you ain't gonna you ain't reaching you ain't poking for the ball you ain't stripping for as soon as he catch it man when that ball in the air as soon as you if i'm guarding you you're gonna have to hold that bitch up here yeah i got you glad you caught it yes yes what the fuck is he? Where he at? Where is he and where is his hands at?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Because I got a hand here. I'm touching you here. I'm here. You don't know what's going on. So now you imagine trying to process all of this and then trying to think what move you're going to do. With seven seconds left. No.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Sweep, swipe, hand on it, contest there. Ain't none of this going on. He's great. Don't get me wrong. But let me know when somebody starts reaching for the ball and poking for the ball and doing different things on it. Are you pushing him off his sweep? He's going to catch the ball where I want him to catch it. So it's do your work early.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I'm going to do my work early. He's bigger than me, right? Guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to front him. And guess what? If you don't got my backside, I'm going to cuss you the fuck out. I what I'm gonna do I'm gonna front him and guess what if you don't Got my backside. I'm a cuss you to fuck this Get behind him I'm gonna do it all that so you go get my help cuz he won't catch
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, you gonna spin spin spin spin try to get now you wait off the block now to get your catch cool now Let's go. Yep my feet quicker than yours for sure. You ain't beat me there. You ain't beat me there now You're gonna shoot whatever shot. I want you to shoot now Now let's go. Let's get it. Pick it up. Pick it up. Come on, man. Let's stop this shit. He's great, but... So would you say Prime Canyon would be able to give Joker some problems? Fucking Fitz. Get it out of here. He's going to be passed up here.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Man, I'd go out and fucking yell. Man, I'd go out and yell mean, bro. Pick and roll. Like, yell big as they come. Yeah, but that's why Dwight. Dwight was having... Like, he's going to reach, do all this. He going to mess with him. Elbows. You going to catch the ball where I want you to catch it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Not conceding anything. I'm meeting you at the. You running down. I know what play you about to run. Or you just. He called. He just telling the dude to get out. He just keep letting him back him down from the wing.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Just for the win. So So here's the question then. Come on, man. Do you play Joker head up if you want to neutralize him? Or do you allow the wings out? Head up. If you're going to do head up, head up. Just make him go left the whole time. Head up, no help.
Starting point is 00:47:59 What I'm saying is, if you look at every clip, he's getting right. Right. Right. Right. He going to go here every clip, he's getting right. Right. Right. Right. He going to go here, spin, he coming back right. Only time he actually goes left is if he already, the Euro step, he's going right and you really got in front of him and then he comes back this way for that floater.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Other than that, if you just make him go left, dribble with the left hand, he ain't doing this. No. He ain't going this way to do the jump hook. It's always going to be on his right shoulder. If he's on the other side, he's going to turn and face. Dribble one, try to come back middle, do all this with the jump hook. If you want to try to neutralize,
Starting point is 00:48:35 just say, all right, we're going to push him left. Let's see how damaging he is this way. Are we coming at him on a double at all? I asked the referee, are you allowed to steal one in one in one? Yeah, no, they say yeah. Yes. I said, oh, yeah, we not going nowhere. We good. He's not going nowhere He ain't going nowhere Oh, yeah, because me I got listen so I'm finna give y'all a little secrets and shit that I my son
Starting point is 00:49:05 Oh, but I'm when you're on the baseline side most dudes in the league forever Yep, why are My nose spit off you file you got a file you think you pushed him or he's smitten even monkey ducking that bitch cuz you didn't I Put my head this Whatever side to whatever baseline side it is mm-hmm it's this hand mm-hmm or whatever it is and I ain't just got it there uh-huh got a grip grip on you on his ribcage on right here yeah uh-huh you flinch I feel it yeah I'm squeezing now you worried about get my hand off for you now you go to spin now release. Yep
Starting point is 00:49:51 I'm right. All right. Now you go middle. I'm good. So I got this now you I'm really Here you this so I'm gonna make you so yes, I got I got a secret This is for all my a listen all my guard. Yeah, okay all my guards in the post Here's a secret. It only worked for me on the right side. Yeah, so someone's supposed to me up. Oh Yeah Let me see this this is my great defense on this side So I held like this defensively right on a post the opposite of what you want to do, but this hand Was in today a hip flexor. Yeah, I'm holding like this
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm into their hip flexor like this because this ref ain't looking here You can't see it the ref that is on this play is behind me so he can't see I'm digging now Think about how you grab the ball, right? You're calling for the ball here. So this is your free leg. So I'm digging into this hip hard, just holding it. What you do then? Turn. Ah! Ah! Travel!
Starting point is 00:50:57 Bring up the pivot! Bring up the pivot! Drill! I be doing it. So what you end up doing is, even if you sitting there doing it, I'm like, yo, ref, travel, travel. And now if you do have this as your pivot, you off the wrong, you off the wrong foot anyway. Now you got to do something. So now you want to elbow me to try to get it off all big. Or swipe or do something.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Like, you're going to try to elbow to get my hip off this. So you sitting here doing an offensive foul every single time. Every time. Knock your hand off. Oh, that was my thing. Just, I'd be digging. Like, this is the only defense I got. Hey, double. I got this, Oh, that was my thing. Just I be digging like this only defense I got Double I got this coach this my side
Starting point is 00:51:37 For sure, that's really good. That was the only that's the only defense I had in the post was did you get past this? Good bucket. Yeah, and then what forced me to start doing that was Tim Duncan, bro. Like, make me meet you at the free throw line, force you out. Too good. You're really good when you catch the ball where you want to. You're really good, period.
Starting point is 00:51:57 But if you're going to catch the ball at the shit you've been working on for four months in your whole career, catching the ball and jab, jab, jab, bank shot, nope, Timmy. We're not shooting that today. jab jab jab bank shot nope Timmy we're not shooting that today not today Timmy not shooting his bank shot today dog he knew it he knew it like as soon as you face cry out man Timmy wasn't catching and he needed the rhythm to get that thing. Soon as he, let me untuck your jersey, let me get it with you. Get that close
Starting point is 00:52:27 to you. He can't smell it. He can't smell it. He can't smell it. Yeah, no, it's a chess match, man, with that. That's the same approach I used to take. Because Gil had to, you got to guard point guards. So I had to guard all the twos and the threes, mellows, T-max, vences. And my only advantage was getting small. I couldn't play big with those guys. They're 6'8", 6'7", 6'9", so I had to literally be the one that's underneath, kind of like how Kenyon said,
Starting point is 00:52:54 I'm underneath as soon as you bring that bitch down, but I had to do my work early. All that shit was like Mello, C-6-3, he going straight to the post, transition. Transition transition run straight So I got to do my word early push him out push him out by the time he catch it is mid post turn and move so they used to send niggas like Reuben Patterson and stop get me off of Off of mellow cuz I used to be disballing. I used to just hack his ass like man
Starting point is 00:53:21 I'm about to foul him all six times and they're gonna hey Ruben We're gonna get this motherfucker about me to get him off mellow man. Fuck this nigga Hmm and another thing you had to worry about with me is pulling the chair on you. Oh my god That's another element of the defensive thing that You know, I'm fighting you I'm gonna fight you I'm gonna fight you you I'm strong which I mean like I might knowledge and you trying to be strong back on one side one side of it, man Try don't try to Huh? And I'm a woo Watch out now an idea. I pulled a chair on y'all. He couldn't get out the pain
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm gonna go call three seconds. No, you can't get up Come on man, like No one's done that Took a charge against Joker yet On that One time You do that one time And you fall
Starting point is 00:54:10 He gonna stop throwing it with power He gonna stop throwing it with power Just go He playing strong a little bit He know they just don't have post defense A lot of guys in the league Don't got post defense And everybody plays post defense that way.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It ain't just Looney. Everybody, guards, mids, bigs, everybody plays defense and take the bump with they chest. Ain't nobody telling them that you don't have to get abused that way. You don't have to get abused down there like that, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Just imagine, you're going to keep letting somebody and they just hook dunking this shit or they just getting to they spot, boom, boom. Turn and move. Jump, boom, boom, boom. Get to, like it's drop step, lay up, drop. There's no reason, just cause you, like they showing the clip of Lebron Dillon Brooks banging.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You're not doing anything. You wanna be strong. Okay, you lift weights. Cool. He weighs more than you. He's Cool. He weighs more than you. He's taller. He weighs more than you. You're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:55:11 So until you try something different, like going after the little thing that's important. Yeah, the ball. I'm going to short step, long step the shit out of you all night long. Short step, long step. Bright hook. Let's get back to Joker. So on Monday, Joker dropped his 108th career triple-double
Starting point is 00:55:28 to pass LeBron and Jason Kidd for the fourth most in NBA history. We got some highlights for that game. Joker's played in 18... Oh, Lord. Wow. 113 fewer games than LeBron in his career. He's still only 28 years old. He already has three triple-doubles
Starting point is 00:55:44 in nine games this season. Nuggets have the best record in the league at 8-1. Ooh, look at that. See, he throw the passes when you cut through. And as an offense guy, you think you open. With him, you open. Like, he throw the shit, they'll be like, ah, like, I missed you. He going to throw it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 It ain't going to be he missed you. Yeah, them Chris Webber back. Absolutely. That's them. Like, when you cut through and you put your, you ain't even going to put your hand on it. He already throw it. He see you got an advantage, he going to throw it. One foot.
Starting point is 00:56:15 He going to throw it. And that's what you like. You like guys like that. Like, you know, you're not afraid to turn the ball over and take chances for his teammates. Yep. And that's what makes him great. And that's what made Jake here great. He wasn't afraid to turn the ball over at all. Yeah. He. And that's what makes him great. And that's what made Jake Hill great. He wasn't afraid to turn the ball
Starting point is 00:56:26 over at all. He's not afraid to try stuff out there. And that's what makes him a great passer. So Jokic's averaging 29, 13, 8 assists. In that triple-double range. Again, this season it's kind of falling off a little bit. But Gil, I'll start with you. Is Jokic the most complete big man
Starting point is 00:56:41 offensively in NBA history? No. In NBA history? No. In NBA history? No. That's Will. And what place did you say he's in? Fourth? Yeah, fourth of triple-doubles.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Sixth. Will's sixth? No, he's in sixth. He's in actual sixth place. Why is he in sixth place? Because Will Chamberlain and Bill Russell is one and two. Those are the real one and two goats of the triple-double, but they didn't count. There was no stat for blocks.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Blocks and steals, not to be 23-74. So Wilt averaged for his career 14 blocks a game. Meaning... For his career 14 blocks a game. Meaning. For his career. For his career. So the 1,040 games he played averaging 14 blocks a game would have put him at about 800, 800 triple doubles. 78 quadruple doubles. But they didn't keep a stat until he retired.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Him and Bill Russell retired. Russell averaged 8.8 blocks a game. So how many triple doubles do you think these people had if they averaged 29 rebounds? So 29 rebounds, 14 blocks. The fuck do you think? 52 points. That's what I'm saying. Because they didn't keep a us that you cheated this man
Starting point is 00:58:05 You cheated this man in history. Yeah, and they not putting it on the in the print neither No triple doubles in blocks and steals didn't count until yes, like they don't put that Mid net shit. So what would I say? I just curious he's beating on that shit Oh, what were they saying back in those days? Just like, you know, what were they calling it? Nothing. They didn't know what shit a block. Defense. They didn't say, what are we going to call it? What are we going to call it? He's doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He's doing it like 14 times a game. They didn't know what to call it. That's what I said. Like, they said, unofficial, he had 14,000 blocks for his career. Unofficial. Unofficial. 14,000. They didn't know what they were.
Starting point is 00:58:43 They didn't know what it was then. And they kept us. There's some film, so they can go back and watch some film They didn't know what they were. They didn't know what it was then They make they kept on film so they can go back and what that's what they're doing They went they went back to film count. That's what they are in his film 14 14 credible 14 blocks game goddamn Does it matter the competition? I don't I mean when we about history, you say, all right, this person's this. Like, you have to, like, you have to complete the history of the game. You can't just say, like, you have to say, like, Westbrook is number one while keeping official stats.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Right? LeBron is number one in all-time scoring, but there was no three-point line for Curry. Like, you got to give something, because if not, you're just erasing history with advantages. If they put a four-pointer in there, and then someone breaks it, you got to let them know why. There was a four-pointer added after this man retired.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Like, you know, there has to be some type of... Well, it's like the NFL, right? You're going from, like, 14 games to 16 games and now 17 games. You can't count a 17-game season the same way when they win or for when they was playing for 14 games Would you give credit would you give credit to the history of the game if we was to add that part Would you give credit to the 80s? No, I mean every credit to the 80s? No, I mean, every stat was in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:00:07 It's not like you're giving the 50s. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm skipping over. And you're skipping over the 80s. You're going to give them credit. When you're talking about that era, you're talking about what we see today. So when you say, all right, is he the most complete offensive guy?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Not when a guy is sitting there with 30 points a game, four assists, 22 rebounds, 14 blocks. Real shit. Hell no. Real shit. Shit, but if you get to leave some of this stuff out, then yeah, but 80s, I mean, we have your stats. We have all your stats.
Starting point is 01:00:42 We get it. You know, the three-point line, when they did start, it was at 24, and then in 94, because y'all couldn't shoot, they moved it to know, we get it You know, the three-point line When they did start, it was at 24 And then in 94, because y'all couldn't shoot They moved it to 22 We get it It was a drug epidemic I was in the league when cocaine was falling out Socks
Starting point is 01:00:56 We don't own no boats We don't own no planes I was sitting here Boxing somebody out and like The fuck is that? It's snowfall It's snowfall I was I was I was sitting here boxing somebody out of life The team they had to say yo bro, you know, that was Crazy hard boom. I'm crazy. Oh, trust me. I that wasn't the Franklin Saint though good. I was stepped on that was several years later That was 2001 I'm just suffering with those getting the 80s. They were getting that pure Pablo. Yeah, that's what I'm saying So this is 2000
Starting point is 01:01:35 2001 this is day. Why are you fat on that? That's what oh you using that to help lose weight. Yeah. You just started. My Weight Watchers. That's what I'm saying. In today's game, yes. But when you talk about history, that's why I poke at history so you can defend it so people know what it is.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I shouldn't be a reporter out here giving history lessons to people Who's supposed to be giving us history lessons? I can't know so much more about the history of this game than you know people who's been Reporting it. How do I know that? Playing before the rest of the league and that was their advantage over everybody like you come on It's fundamental but I'm in reading I said it's reading is fundamental Really? You got a lot further life. You just sit reading reading asking questions. Yeah, like if I see the dunk contest, right?
Starting point is 01:02:38 We talked about dunk contest That's something You just wanted to be the camera guy there. They didn't get him. They didn't get him. Hey, baby, I'm going to get on film today. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this. I'm about to go. Right now. Right now. I'm about to go in there right now.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. Shit happens, and that's how we do it. Like dunk contests. You know, when the 88 dunk contest. I'll call the people that played in the dunk contest. Hey, how was it? Was it rigged? Did you feel rigged?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Were you invited? Like I'm asking the question, so when I report, I'm reporting with knowledge. I'm going to ask, like, what was the advantage in it? What is the downfall? What is this? How about the jerseys? How about the ticket sales? What was the rules?
Starting point is 01:03:23 Did y'all have trainers? Did y'all have this? And I get all this information before I just go out there and say something Right and that's the way you do reporting. You know, so if I'm poking I'm poking for a reason No, a lot of people from the 80s want that fake you But they got janky hips and backs now. So you know, yeah a whole bad habit right a date. They do it Green coffee ain't strong enough for the shit. They was off Yeah, they played all 82 games there was a reason
Starting point is 01:04:02 That 80s whatever it was only ladies give that to these guys Give me that No No head the toe no, let me get a little bit more my coffee Let's talk about Joker modern NBA if Joker get average triple-double in his career with that cement him as The most dominant offensive big man in the modern NBA history or you still give it to Shaq You have to give You have to give it to the dude that they had to change rules for like when you're talking about
Starting point is 01:04:41 like Making a claim they had to make a rule. They had to put in a zone. They had to fake like the zone was for this team offensive. We're going to move the ball. It was to stop someone because they couldn't stop them, right? You had to trap. You had to go down and double.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Like, everybody, they had to, like, drive. Hey, where you working at? Where you working at? You big. Yeah, come on. You play football? Come on. Like, I need you on this team to help us, you know what I mean, guard this dude.
Starting point is 01:05:13 You can't take that away. Like, when he starts getting the defensive respect that Shaq was getting, but when you come to just natural, like, passing the ball around, we're giving him that because of the passing part of it But is any when he has the ball is anybody scared that he's gonna Give you 40 50 every night not not yet Not yet. Not no one's scared like you're more afraid of Embiid and
Starting point is 01:05:45 Giannis You're scared of his totality like he's gonna fuck the whole team up I think I think they're scared from an individual fear level. All right, like if I'm guarding Shack or I'm guarding Yeah, I'm more afraid for as an individual from a team standpoint So if I got a joke right here dropping 10 12 13 dimes in addition to 25 30 you can put up like me it's who he's doing it on though like if you see what he does to AD and then a couple other you like and he's doing it to them what the fuck are we supposed to do the rest of us like if he's doing that to them what the fuck is the rest of us supposed to do? When we play Shaq, right, when we play the Lakers,
Starting point is 01:06:26 I have no fear in that game. I don't have to guard Shaq nor Kobe. It's a good day for me. I got all offense, right? Well, if that's Joker, I do have a problem now. Because if I'm sitting here just doing this and now this man done backdoored me four, five times. Now my guy got 20.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So when you're talking about the team aspect, everyone's fearful when they're playing against him. Because everyone becomes a scorer as long as he has the ball. Before, there's some guys where this is a day off. Yeah, we playing the champs, but I don't have to do shit. Right? Is the big scared, though? I think the bigs are scared.
Starting point is 01:07:03 He's a big man. Yeah, no, I'm... Because they don't know what he knows. I'm the bigs are scared. He's a big man, so. Yeah, no, I'm- Because they not, I mean, they don't know what he knows. I'm a small- Like he knows. I'm a small big. He knows. He knows what to do.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yo, I wonder if dudes from 2000 to like a lot of them bigs, I wonder if they send Shaq shit every year as a thank you. Hell no. Because you motherfuckers got a job and had a job solely because of him. To stop him. To try. Try. To try.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Try. To check in. I told y'all, ain't nobody, Father Time guarded Shaq. Let's call it what it is. And then just being a little bit lazy. Father Time. Whatever. But Father Time though. He was lazy but he was still winning. That was sad right?
Starting point is 01:07:51 So Father Time, Gardner Shaq. For somebody who was out there and saw him at here finals 36 and 15 later no like it's weird
Starting point is 01:08:14 when people like today and the man can't make free throw but let's just and let's I'll let you finish but let's put it all in context if he could make half his free throw
Starting point is 01:08:24 45 half if Shaq could make half his free throw 45 half if Shaq could make half of them 45 he has a scoring title easy half of them
Starting point is 01:08:32 easy and what would them averages be 40 something like it doesn't they turn into and ones just imagine man
Starting point is 01:08:40 no one stop that's what I'm saying it's not like we was there was no there was no defense for him there There was no defense individual one-on-one defense. There was none All the shit that I just got done talking didn't exist with him All that poking the ball
Starting point is 01:09:01 He 315 I'm all 25 it don't matter. He's 315. I'm 225. It don't matter. He catches the ball where he want it. You know when he told his real weight? 415. He was 415 when he was playing with the Lakers. The third championship. The third championship.
Starting point is 01:09:19 415. Now imagine if he was actually 315. imagine if he was If he was actually 315 on that damn friendship, how fast was that man gonna be? That was Orlando shit. Yeah, like our first one is the first got to give them up for getting that bitch off the rebound Push it up. It's running that spin move That shit who Who's stopping that I'm gonna see Joker with that type of dominance, though. Because people didn't realize, and I asked the ref this, I said, who was harder, the referee, Shaq or Dwight?
Starting point is 01:09:54 He said, harder the referee was, they said, Dwight. I said, why? Because they said Dwight wasn't as skillful. They said Shaq was skillful, meaning he didn't use his weight the way Dwight wasn't as skillful. They said Shaq was skillful, meaning he didn't use his weight the way Dwight tried. Dwight wanted to try to power through. He said Shaq was skillful. He had moves.
Starting point is 01:10:14 He was trying to out-skill you. Yeah, he was big, but that was when he was trying to dunk on you. Other than that, he knew how to play the game of basketball. Spin lobs and all that. Yeah, he understood. He had great footwork he and I was like, okay Yeah, he said the only thing that that we had a problem with Shaq was are we gonna give him every foul? Then he gets fired every play like if he gets fouled every play
Starting point is 01:10:38 I mean how many times like we have to sit there and make a conscious decision to not keep him off the free throw line 50 shots. Just eliminate him after the ball. How many times are you getting fouled before you catch the ball? Position. What you have to do
Starting point is 01:10:59 to try to stop him to get to his spot. You got to hold, grab. You got to do everything in your power to stop him from getting there. Then once he catches it, good luck. Doesn't that speak to Shaq's brilliance, though? That he can get you in foul trouble before he even get the fucking ball, just running down the middle of the damn lane. The things that bigs were taught.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Growing up, big, run basket to basket. Straight down the middle. That's what I'm saying. He coming down the lane like, you got a foul. He coming down the lane like, what you doing? Here we go. I got away with the foul. One person I can think of, if he was maybe a little taller, that had a chance, and that was Jihadi White.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Jihadi was a big motherfucker. If he was a little taller. The only person that had a chance, if Aaron Williams was seven-foot Aaron cook Jotty when that size and all that but stay out of it. Yeah, we did have a teammate who actually held him one-on-one Etan Joe you about to give give her I think I know I'm not gonna say his name, but give us a love you He guarded him one-on-one. We never had to double. Okay that country strong about the give who I think I... I know, I'm not going to say his name, but... Give him some love, Gil. He guarded him one-on-one. We never had the double.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Okay. That country strong. Okay. I got him. Call me. That's the only one. Like, okay, we ain't got a double down here. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:12:18 But other than that, the rest of the bigs, they really had problems. Yeah. But I mean, but when it comes off as like, you take away Shaq's three, he didn't need the three. You can give Joker his three, he's still only averaging 24 points.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And he gets the calls, he gets... Shaq averaged what he averaged and the referees cheated the man. Because if they didn't, there was no NBA. The game's over at halftime. The fucking whole team done fouled out. They would have had to start pulling fans.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Because think about it. He's coming down the lane. All right, here comes Shaq. Okay. All right. Can I grab him? No. Do you?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Ha! Let's go. We sit here trying to hold this motherfucker up like this. Three seconds. It's like a bull ride, girl. What the fuck you think we have to do to get him out of the lane? I'm serious. This is a Mack truck coming down the lane. What do you think we're doing to get him out?
Starting point is 01:13:16 There was no one man. What legal defense do you think we had to do to say, all right, we're going to move him from here to here? No. Hey Do y'all not realize they had to change the whole backboard and rim because this man. That picture of we're in the finals and me and my four other teammates are in the frame. Nobody sent that to me. That is the best career. That's no other picture explain what we're talking about better than that one.
Starting point is 01:14:04 All five of us in the frame? It's just him he's talking to bitch I'm trying to like like well as we get it what you're trying to do is that a three we get it cool great Tell me but they had to change back boards rent. They had to make a breakable They look it was once they made a breakable. They had to make the whole unit breakable because he was pulling it off Think about it they when he when he was lighter he was pulling the rim off the goddamn out of the When he got bigger there was a reason that they wouldn't break no more. They had they had to build it through the floor Shot coming to town. Pull the super, super glue. Gotta bolt this bitch
Starting point is 01:15:06 to the building. They didn't bolt the gold to the building because he was folding that bitch up. Folding it. Hey, in comparison to Joker, he ain't had no jump shot,
Starting point is 01:15:16 no turnaround, no fade away, no none of that. All that shit. Joker got the elbow picking pop. Shaq, just imagine Shaq hitting that David Robinson shit.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Freak the line extended. That cart right here. He ain't had none of that shit. Shaq, just imagine Shaq hitting that David Robinson shit. Freak the line extended. The cart right here. He ain't had none of that shit. Shaq with a three. If this man came in today's game, the whole league, they better have a... The way all the players is right now,
Starting point is 01:15:42 they're going to hope COVID. COVID got a hit to stop it so now they can go draft them and get some new players to help because You can have Joker down this guaranteed two and three Y'all too little We think about he wouldn't be He breaking him and other four niggas as Jumba. What you talking about? Ask Keith Klaus.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Man. He was 7'3". Mm-hmm. And Shaq used to destroy that sternum. Yep. Come here. Destroyed this part. Listen, if y'all know the sternum here, it's just this part of him.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Go ask Keith Klaus how they used to feel. Get over here. No, he... Boom! Get over here. Go ask Dave Robinson. There's a clip I thought about him backing David Robinson down. And David Roberts is a strong human being.
Starting point is 01:16:29 The Abner Brown. Shaq's backing him down, and David is taking them bumps in his chest, and he boom. The next thing you know, Shaq turning, hook dunk that motherfucker. I'm like, yeah. Y'all want to see a dead body? Yeah, man. So let's talk about these Bucks real quick.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Dame had a big game against the Pistons 34 points But we got to talk about the biggest story from that game Giannis getting ejected after picking up his second technical foul for dunking on friend of the program Isaiah Stewart Let's Be still give him a little stare. Okay. Can you rewind it this thing? Is this a is this a foul? Right there, boom. That ain't no foul?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Go back again, and right when he picked the ball up, pause now. Okay, rewind a little bit. They're doing their best, Gil. We don't got that technology yet. One more time. I'm going to tell you when to stop. Right now. He had two hands in his chest.
Starting point is 01:17:24 When I say now, that is close enough. No, we saw now. He had two hands in his chest. When I say now, that is close enough. No, we're sorry. He had two hands in his chest. Yeah, go back. Come on. We're going to try it one more time. Right there. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Two hands in his chest. Right. We're talking about we want his hands in his chest. Two frames. Right there. Right there. You see? He's going to touch you.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Yeah. So, right there, that is what we consider the, what is that, a hand check? That's fine. Right? So, right now, this hand check, he going to use both at some point. That is to slow down the momentum. And you can see, even with two hands to slow the momentum down, he still gets pushed into the rim. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:18:04 So, when people say, oh yeah, they need to hand check back, they allow it. Trust me. They allow it. That shit just don't mean nothing no more. When you come in full speed, a hand check, that shit don't work. This man is, he's using both hands to slow him down
Starting point is 01:18:19 so then he can try to block him. And he still walks through it. Now come fly with me. I'm not player Fire come fly with me. Let me show you some tough guy. What's up in your face? What's up tough guy? Well, wait, we'll wait. No step. Wait, wait, wait. I just ordered the crepe. That's it the travel just one crepe prick What is going on? But then pointing at me shit like that. Listen all that right there. See you're out of here, buddy That's there. No there
Starting point is 01:18:52 Now I'm not a man while 27 long those road that person that is the all you this person I love this part. I Ain't going nowhere To ref this like I had nothing to do with this shit, man. We got to go talk to the other ref. He on the baseline. He on the baseline. He like, I can't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:19:11 7.50. 7.50. All right, I'll pause it right now. I need to see it all. Because I'm watching. 71. 71. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:19 So if you're the sideline ref, what is your fucking problem? Yeah. 71 is the referee that can hear whatever's going on. So the fact that he didn't make a call, why do you? What do you need to do in this game? Because Giannis didn't say anything. No. It's just the look.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I don't like your look, boy. Boy, I don't like the way you look. Clinch his teeth together. He did this and look the way and you give him and he looked at his direction though He looked at the race. It's called what I'm not it. It don't matter What's the fuck does this got to do with you in making your call? There's another referee here right that's closer. That's that's closer. That can see. If he ain't blowing his whistle, why are you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:08 What is the importance of you making the call? Money, money, money. He got to pick them in. Besides, this might be. Allegedly. Allegedly. No, but that's where it comes in. Like, he ain't saying nothing to you.
Starting point is 01:20:21 He didn't say nothing to you. Nothing. He ain't talking to you. He didn't say nothing to you. Nothing. He ain't talking to you. He ain't disrespecting you. You're injecting yourself in a game of emotions. Yeah. For what? And there ain't no infraction.
Starting point is 01:20:35 There ain't no nothing happened. Nothing happened. He didn't spike the ball. He didn't go delay a game. Like they should take this out of the refs. When it comes between players leave us leave leave them alone hmm leave them alone unless it becomes this physical thing then you say hey hey hey relax other than that this you already as a
Starting point is 01:20:57 referee know he has it you are impacting this game three minutes into the second half yep he should not be able to do he should be suspended and no or fine because I know what happens if Yana says something in the media about this he's gonna be a fire you know 30 and he shouldn't be allowed to ref bucks games anymore so this was per whatever it was this is ridiculous he shouldn't be you
Starting point is 01:21:20 know better than anybody right when you used to dunk the ball and used to that bitch out of bounds, right? So imagine today someone, let's just say KJ, out there getting a tech every single time. He'd dunk, bounce that bitch off. They're taking that emotion out. Why are they killing the emotion of our natural reactions to what we do that make us who we are? Natural reactions when they're allowed to give natural reactions to what we do that make us who we are. Natural reactions when they're allowed
Starting point is 01:21:45 to give natural reactions. Our natural reaction, because we're in an intense environment, right? You're saying something, I'm saying something, I'm dunking, you stopping me, boom, right? Ah! Right? You giving me, what the fuck did I do to you?
Starting point is 01:21:59 Like, you have no emotions here. You're supposed to be sitting here like, keep it moving, y'all, keep it moving. You have no skin in this supposed to be sitting here like keep moving y'all keep you have no Skin in this game to have an emotion, but your emotions you were allowed to give me a take my emotions Oh, I get tech you better calm your ass down Oh God, so once once you did that my emotions and when you start pointing Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I would have flipped the fuck out who you point man You point that personal tell me I gotta go. I got kicked out again
Starting point is 01:22:30 I got to text time to go in the second when I felt was bullshit. Mm-hmm Fail to lead a game in a timely fashion verbal abuse of a game official You know you made once you did the shit now you open the door for me to yeah man I kick your mother yeah you make this personal yeah now now we got to get NBA security involved now you feel threatened cuz yeah you are you I am involving my my workspace yeah with your bullshit cuz you can't undo it you can't do to take once they do it they know you can't undo it. You can't undo the tech. Once they do it,
Starting point is 01:23:05 they know they can't undo it. There should be things that in the game itself that you shouldn't allow refs to impact the totality of the game. Hanging on the rim, that should not be part of technicals. That should be towards the team itself.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Delay a game warning. Team delay a game warning. That should be team tech. So Duncan, this right here, yelling team itself. Right? Delay a game warning. Team delay a game warning. That should be team tech. So, Duncan, this right here, yelling, team tech. When it has to do with you personally as a referee, okay, technical. You're cheating, man. Right? But other than that, you're, like, this shouldn't be allowed.
Starting point is 01:23:38 This should not be allowed. Not at all, bro. Like, there should be some fines coming down. You should be fined. This should be a some fines coming down you should be fined This should be a fine. There's no way that public knowledge if the fun wasn't this hey wasn't this between Somebody hitting a three and doing this or dunking on doing it Part of the emote It's the same thing. Well, we got a great Mostly Fans question.
Starting point is 01:24:06 I want to make sure a deadly guy, an underdog user, gets his bread kind of exactly in line with what you're saying. He said, how do you feel about refs? Do they get fined for making bad, late, or missed calls? And should the NBA look into it the same way they're looking at players getting fined? They do get penalized. But the problem with it is it's not public. So because it's not public, it's like you're hiding something. If you're not going to find them, don't find me fucking publicly. When I say something to the ref, or I say something to the podium, and you
Starting point is 01:24:39 didn't like it, and you finding me, make it discreet too my fuckers Yeah, don't be sitting there. Oh good reason got five thousand for the Western. No fuck you Yeah, and then what did he get and this other shit that they came up with as of late this too many reports Should the last two minute saying what caused was made late? No find the motherfucker Yeah, you missed the call that impacted the game like to tell the ref that missed the call Don't just put the time And what call was missed? No the bottom refs up to 71 was supposed to bake the car He didn't make a put his goddamn name referee number. Yeah, and the fine out there Last year where Eric Lewis is like, yeah, we missed the call all watched. Like, what good is that report going to do now? It's not going to do shit now.
Starting point is 01:25:25 We're being accountable. But to your point, and that's the thing. It's like you're protecting an entity that is actually the main factor in the game. Right? A referee, a rogue referee, any referee can dictate a game. Just like this. I got him out of this game, which entices, that helps the other team. You should be playing a game where you are not trying to pick a side.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I thought this was about fairness. The home crowd has a better chance repping a game than you. At least they're going to be fair because they might like the motherfucker on the other side. Right, right. Let defense call for us. We took the referees off in New York
Starting point is 01:26:20 and we said, alright, three New York fans come out here and referee. The way they hate, New York shit They might fuck around and find that whole goddamn team Right. I trust New York fans more than I truck the referees in New York I'm not calling that call for you. You don't miss the last post shot get on back on You know what I mean? The game is too vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:26:51 The game is too important to have emotional. And it's always the young ones. It's always the young ref. Nobody knows trying to make his name. Like, get your soft ass on out of here, man. If I can't verbally abuse you, you shouldn't even be in this accident. That's what we used to tell them them ain't nobody here to watch you dog tell them all the time ain't nobody here to watch you man like you in the way I hear the way you in the way I heard ain't nobody here to watch you you know
Starting point is 01:27:16 who used to say that though you should say they't here to watch me. They ain't here to watch me, my brother. Dick Vedder, great ref. Great ref. They ain't here to watch me. Dick Vedder, great ref. He said, they ain't here to watch me, man. You better do what you better do. That's what I said, but those are the refs that, like, they have a bad name for people, but players, right?
Starting point is 01:27:36 Like it's fair. Like I can cuss to a certain point and he ain't going to be like, shit, it still ain't going to change the outcome of your shot right now. He's still off. Tony Brothers. Tony Brothers. It's still off Tony Still off still your ass right to your face. Yeah, it might fall to all the money. I didn't shoot that last bullshit. Yeah Cool you you right dog Joey Crawford Joe both of them probably boys. He said they won't do about you. Yep
Starting point is 01:28:03 So what I'm gonna try to do some he was like What are you gonna get up get back on defense or shit I mean they don't care to me they can go in and score the phone file or do you keep looking at me like I'm gonna do something it's a phone man joy your man just scored joy hit you with a you ain't got enough years to get that kind of call. Yeah But we got enough years to get that kind of honor but it's honesty like you're not gonna like the better refs Even though you don't like they not pin a lot. They not trying to affect the outcome of the game But joy kicking me out of the game. I fuck to technically I ran through Danielle Marshy. Fuck out. I'm not putting up with your shit No, no me straight up first quarter. I felt done even putting up with your shit. No more. Told me straight up.
Starting point is 01:28:45 First quarter, I felt Danielle said illegal in the first time. He didn't blow the whistle. They ran the same play the next trip and I ran right through him. Boo-yah!
Starting point is 01:28:55 Joy was like, get the fuck out. We're not putting up with this. Not tonight. He told me straight up, I'm not putting up with your shit tonight.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Not tonight. You know what? Let me go in the back and order me some wings. Yeah. As soon as you walk back there. As soon as you walk back there. As soon as you walk back there. I'm here early.
Starting point is 01:29:12 And a six pack. I remember we was down 30. We was getting our ass whooped. And Jerry Stackhouse just had enough. He ready to go. So he's trying everything, right? So Jerry already is trying to get kicked out. And the ref, Just had enough he ready to go So he's trying everything right so Jerry already trying to get kicked out and the ref like we're not kicking him out No, he gonna take this ass with the rest of it
Starting point is 01:29:36 Got the ball and so it went over his back right Jerry sack house He shot, you know, you're trying to pull it down man got mad just turned around body slam dude ref looked at him Offensive foul right over the back Jerry got some mad kick the ball. He was like That's we Jerry He's gonna take this ass over with the rest of your team You can't just go in the back and just enjoy like you didn't get your ass up tonight Let me kick this ball Automatic though
Starting point is 01:30:13 But he was trying to get the whole fourth quarter he was trying everything Hacking doing they wouldn't call it plan a pretend ain't seen it, but it kicked bar you Got answer the lead then if they do it What's your fuck y'all's doing out there today sleeping fucking sleepers rest man? All right, let's talk about these Sixers a little bit Sixers enter Wednesday right in a five-game winning streak But they had their first real test against the Celtics since the season opener against the Bucks and they passed that test MB dropped 27 and 10 to go along with four downs four blocks Tyrese maxi chipped in 25 nine nine rebounds, five assists, two blocks of his own. I believe that was their fifth
Starting point is 01:30:52 straight home win. And they are number one in the East right now. Yep, small ass lineup. Small ass lineup. Boop. Small ass lineup. Keep going though. Yeah, I'm just, hey, looking up to enjoy it with us. I got it. Appreciate you though. Look at that small ass lineup.
Starting point is 01:31:16 The game, hold on. I don't know if y'all watched the game. Did y'all watch any of this game? Mm-hmm. You watched? Yeah, you should have had more, but the game shouldn't have been that close. Yeah. Yeah, they start bullshitting late in the fourth. All right, yes Small as lining up what y'all think about them having um drew holiday garden and be That was my whole point I think
Starting point is 01:31:44 You're putting That was my whole point. I know what they was doing. You're putting Joel Embiid so you have the big defensive player behind him. Well, how about just put Al Horford and then have the unicorn back there? Oh my God. Because they might pull around on different elements where you got Kizengas not in a good health position. I can see them fronting with Drew and just having Al always on the
Starting point is 01:32:07 dog, like in the doghouse on health position. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So hey, you take the top guy, I'm going to take the bottom guy. I don't know how hard. Oh my gosh, running up there. You go down there, I'll stay low. What the fuck are we talking
Starting point is 01:32:23 about? You know what I mean? You know it's not that easy. Why you think I kept saying small lineup? Because you got both your guards out there. You go down there, I'll stay low. What the fuck are we talking about? You know what I mean? You know it's not that easy. Why do you think I kept saying small lineup? Because you got both your guards out there. You just need one when you're playing a big lineup. Put Tatum at the three. Put Tatum at the two. Brown at the three. And then you have Al Horford guarding him
Starting point is 01:32:40 man to man. And then if he comes to the rim, you got Porzingis back there. It makes it harder when you have two. If he gets passed then if he comes to the rim you got poor zing gets back there it makes it harder when you have two if he gets past if he gets past uh al horford who the fuck is back there oh my bad it's white but that's the difference hey little guy hey you're doing little guy back there that's the difference though because if you got tobias stretching as the four for zing is not going to be in the help position. He's going to be at the wing. He's going to be out there.
Starting point is 01:33:07 Who's day three? For the Sixers? Oubre. Oubre. Okay. Oubre going to be where? In the corner. In what corner?
Starting point is 01:33:17 Either one. The only one he going to really be in is the one where his left hand is open to the court. If his left hand is on that baseline side, that motherfucker might hit that the whole time. It's just a tough matchup for Philly. It's a tough matchup. We know what side. If he's on this side, he has an open right here,
Starting point is 01:33:35 then we're going, we're going, we're going. But at the end of the day, it has to go all the way around before it gets to him. I need to play the defense. When you're too small, once he gets past the big, there's no protection back there. That's why the little teams don't win. That's why I said, yeah, you're good,
Starting point is 01:33:52 but they're not playing the right lineup. But what did they do when they put Drew on him? They put Embiid at the free throw line where you couldn't double him. Yeah. Free throw line, give him the ball at the free throw line where he know you can't. His gimmick is gimmick. He hit him. Yeah, right. Free throw line, give him the ball. It's the free throw line where he know you can't miss it.
Starting point is 01:34:05 It wasn't really effective in the mid-range. It's gimmick. He hitting. He hit a couple, but... You're keeping him... When you put Drew Holiday on him, you're keeping him from dribbling the ball. That's it. That's what they was trying to do.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Oh, yeah. Face up. Down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Free throw line face up. That's what he was doing. Good defense. The first one I need to put the ball on the floor for
Starting point is 01:34:32 When I had Earl Boykin's guarded me the one thing I'm not gonna do is dribble one cuz I don't need to What are you gonna do? Touch my chest. Haha Look I don't play with this motherfucker so much. I know what not to do and that's what should fight Dribble and try to beat him down low. I don't need to post Earl up like this. He too strong. Hey, you little fucker. Got you little fuck back more Do you think that and be likes this style better That's why I should the six offense look better without Harden Look more. I'm not doing that shit with y'all today a little more fluid. I see you a little more fluid It doesn't look more fluid. Absolutely
Starting point is 01:35:06 Guys got more opportunities to buy us got more opportunity. I think he's capitalized on it I mean a man who braves and made 20 last year. We didn't have a Buddy average 20 where he was last year. Yeah, so without Arden and these additions Oh, then then the new office and it's a new office It's a Nick nurse all the nerds. That's what they're trying to pretend that it's one person when it's a whole new thing This is this ain't sprite. This is coke. Yeah, so he can say oh, yeah, we moving the ball a lot more You have a new coach new system new players. Absolutely. We letting we letting James off the hook It ain't letting them all do it ain't letting them off the hook the man wanted it I don't give a fuck what in B's that you want to MVP what to do
Starting point is 01:35:48 Yeah So obviously you got what you needed out of him you got an MVP with this guy You can say oh the ball stopped and did this I gave it to you. I Gave you my for you Hey, yeah I gave it to you, motherfucker. You... Hey! You can't complain that the ball's stopping you. Best player on the team. This sounds dumb. The offense changes.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Not the same offense. But to stay there and try to throw shots at the dude that helped you get the MVP just seems weird. If they go yard with it... It's a new team. I'm just saying. Who says like that? Do you give credit more to Nick Nurse
Starting point is 01:36:27 or do you give credit to just changing the dynamic of the team? The dynamic of the team is getting Nick Nurse. New additions, though. Covington, Batum. But that's what I'm saying. They got a better team. So you can't say, oh, James Harden is the reason. Because they don't have him, this team is moving better.
Starting point is 01:36:46 So the Sixers won the trade? Huh? So the Sixers won the trade? Who won the trade? We'll see. Who's winning it right now? I think the Sixers are winning it right now. That's temporary.
Starting point is 01:36:57 We got to see. We got to see. We got to see how it finishes off. You can say that now because Tyrese Maxey is playing well. He's got the ball in his hand. He was allowed to do that with James being gone. Tobias Harris went from averaging 15 to 20 right now early in the season. So you can say that is a positive effect.
Starting point is 01:37:21 After that, then we'll see. But right now, that's the way it's shaping up to be. We'll see if what makes of, if they continue this play like they have been the first seven games of the season. Is the record 2-0, 0-2? For both teams? I mean, yeah. Since the trade?
Starting point is 01:37:43 So, since the trade, Harden played two games, but the Clippers are 0-3. They lost to the Lakers, and they lost. Before that. And the Sixers are what? 2-0? We saw, yeah. They haven't.
Starting point is 01:37:51 3-0. 3-0? 3-0. I mean, technically 6-1, because he ain't been there all. You just have a better offensive structure now. You know, a different system. You have better moving parts. You know how to a better offensive structure now. You know, a different system. You have better moving parts. You know how to move better without the ball.
Starting point is 01:38:08 And they didn't run, I don't know if Doc Rand plays for Tobias. Hell no. So, therefore, Nick Nurse is running plays. So, yeah, that's what. And that's what, he's more valuable. You remember I said this, I said, how come they doing a pick and roll? How come him and Ben Simmons never did a pick and roll? No Nick Nurse.
Starting point is 01:38:24 You know what it is. He's getting the shots that Pascal Siakam got. Yes. It's this. Yes, he sees the same thing. Tobias is doing that Pascal Siakam role. Yep. Now he has a more dominant player in Embiid.
Starting point is 01:38:41 So he could... It takes a lot of... Pascal Siakam was, since Kawhi left, he's number one option. Absolutely. That works because Tobias gets the shots he's getting, run the plays for him, he's shooting 60% from the field now. He's being more efficient. With a player like Maxie, though, opening up those opportunities.
Starting point is 01:39:01 But you're playing one-on-one every time. Every time. Every time you're playing one-on-one every time Every time you playing one-on-one because you got this because the most of your minutes on the floor Joel Yeah, so we all know Nick nurse plays the starters big minutes. Most of his start is always playing together and your credit that pick and pop pick and fade with see Akim it Makes sense with Tobias cuz he can shoot that bitch That's what I said I was like man like the one thing that I was like they didn't they didn't capitalize on when Ben was there is Ben and Joel plan to pick and roll who was guarding what you're going what you would make a decision
Starting point is 01:39:37 Yeah, you how far you gonna go under before one is at the rim like yeah, you know what I mean? that's just one play they just never ran like We talked about it being raining. It's the A.I. and Mello pick and roll. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Switch.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Okay. Put the guard on him if you want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Switch up. You talk about MB raining the MVP, but you got Maxie looking like he's making those steps to be a potential franchise player down the road. Ricky's season, 8 points per game. Next year
Starting point is 01:40:07 17.5. Last year, 20. This season, he's averaging 25.4 points per game. It only seems to be going upward. But who should the Sixers be playing through for the most success? Huh? Still going through Embiid? Yeah. That's his question. Them his questions, bro.
Starting point is 01:40:23 No. He be coming up with them shits on the fly. Yeah Huh I know we I know we be talking shit Oh my god I heard Berkley go. He's so ready. He's like, man. This shit is not easy. Which one? Which one? Yeah, no. But no. I don't. No.
Starting point is 01:41:09 We're not. We like that duo. Tyrese Max is playing great. He's a great second option. Absolutely. And what does that ceiling look like, though? A great second option. No, he can be that for them.
Starting point is 01:41:20 They can play throughout whatever the duration of each one of their careers. They could be them. We know how the NBA is. The one of their career that could be them boys We're not NBA is the likelihood of that happen is slimming down because guys move. Mm-hmm But yeah, this is a great duo right now, and I think it could be that Tariq's maxi 22 years old 23 years old. Are you asking do he have Kobe like potential at 62? So like to emerge, to emerge to another level.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Let's not do that. Down the road. Yo, let's not do that. Can he be a number one option is what you're asking? Down the road. What would he, why would he have to be?
Starting point is 01:41:57 If they move and be. Why would he have to be? Jordan Poole shit. Well, it's not that situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have a Steph over there. I mean, it was always...
Starting point is 01:42:06 It's not a... I think if he had a... If he was... Let's just say, if MB set out 20-something games, will Maxie be carrying the team? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:19 He can... The way he plays, he can average 30 easy. That's all my point. Because he's getting those shots. They're riding high right now. They're 6-1, you know, we talked about some of those wins previously Being a little fugazi. They got the Celtics one at some point though at one point that he was a for 20 from the field Mm-hmm. Really? Yeah one for that. He was a for 20 from the field. So he yes, you don't get a shot
Starting point is 01:42:39 They don't get a shot. So therefore if an Embiid is out. Yes, I'm care team but And if it got there was a 24 25 points in his league. Mm-hmm. Ain't nothing to thumb your nose at Mm-hmm nightly in his fourth season to not with a number where as a second option nightly We're good. They're in good hands, but it goes there what we were saying though is how how he's getting those points in The system that he's playing in, right? So, like, if he's a Halliburton type, you're going to get certain points where it's like we're depending on you to get these points like Donovan Mitchell style or Jason Tatum style. Can Maxie do that?
Starting point is 01:43:15 No, yeah. He can get that off that? Because he's not getting it like that now. He's getting it in the Florida offense. He's making shots. No, no, no. He's making his own shots. I know he can, but he's just not out there like, this is my offense. He's making shots. No, no, no. He's trying his own shot. I know he can, but he's just not out there like,
Starting point is 01:43:28 this is my team, I'm doing that. No. Because it's not his team. That's what I'm saying. So can he do that if it was the opportunity? If Embiid was out, he's going to average 30-something. He shot the ball. When they were on the floor, he got 20 of them bitches up
Starting point is 01:43:42 when he was out there with him. He's being aggressive. No matter if Joel is out there or or not he's getting 20 something shots but that's the green light that coach gave you you take joel off the tee he might average 30 he's gonna shoot last year with james what he had a 35 or 40 they're like no yeah he's been there's a put like this because there's a reason he's off the trade blocks. He ain't getting traded. Who you want? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:09 You want percentage in the company? Go and get the percentage. You ain't getting rid of him right now. He's a talent that I think they could, he's a part of that if they wanted to go get another guy. But I think Tobias is filling that role right now. But if they wanted to go get Zach Levine or somebody, I think he could be a nice three-piece for something. I mean, and we talked about that prior, but really what do you give up now to get Levine?
Starting point is 01:44:33 And what you're giving up, is that going to end up hurting you down the road? I think you can run the same thing. Like just say if it was a Tobias and somebody else. Not to say they're going to do it, but I think Zach Levine is that. Okay. What's so funny is like... He can be that.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Tobias is every trade talk every year. Solid, man. But he's the most solid piece. Like I said, he's been averaging 15 every year. Like people have been throwing him in this shit and talking shit about him. He's averaging 15 for his career. Now this year he's went up five points. 16 and eight.
Starting point is 01:45:00 So he's been solid for 11 years. He's 11 years in. And people just disrespect this man consistently, which is crazy. But I'm just saying if they were to make a move,
Starting point is 01:45:10 I like what Tobias is doing now because I'm watching him. I like what he's doing now. But if they were to make a move, I think it would be adding a piece
Starting point is 01:45:16 like a DeMar or a Zach Levine, somewhat of that nature that you can run the same things for you won't lose anything. In my opinion. I think you keep Tobias. I do too.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Because if he moves, I think it's done for him if he moves to a team like Chicago or something like that. I think Philly fits him. No, no, no, no. If he goes there, it's done because that organization is over with. Because you force him to be a one. Maybe a two option. Yeah, so you force him in that role.
Starting point is 01:45:45 He's more comfortable having guys around him where he can play free. Yes, yes. Playing one-on-one. You run and play. It's that. We can take him over here in L.A. For AR? Who?
Starting point is 01:45:57 Slow down! AR-15? But let's talk about these Lakers. Cool. Let's talk about Dylan Brooks a little bit. Lakers face the Rockets Wednesday night. Before the game, Dylan Brooks was still poking the bear. Ready to lock him up.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Shooting the ball well. He's been playing well. So I'm just there to make him tired, make him get into that, you know, fourth quarter early. And to Brooks' credit during the game, Athletic NBA reporter Kelly Aiko caught Brooks reckless eyeballing LeBron. Let's just let's look at the clip. Y'all crack up. They just knocked me, they knocked me in there today, man. That's a bad stance. Ain't no knocking you, Gar. Ain't no knocking you, nigga. Stop it, man.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Ain't no standing on the back of his leg. No way, no way. With his at him. Ain't no dude that stand on the back of his leg. No way. No way. With his feet out. What is that called? Look at him. No. No.
Starting point is 01:46:51 So Brooks got some revenge on the Bear with 80 out with the hip injury. Rockets smacked the Lakers by 34 points. But after the game, LeBron gave him his love, said he deserved the contract, had some high praise for him. But the 34-piece loss was the third largest loss in the LeBron era. See, we here to talk, call Spade Spade, right? See, that's why, like, LeBron, you put this fucking nice guy shit. Fuck all that.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Call him out. Man, listen. He'll bust his ass, man. Yeah. Like, fucking Houston paid him cool, but he ain't fucking with me out here. Let's call the Spade a Spade, bro. Let's stop this shit, all this nice guy shit. Take the challenge, my nigga. People taking shots at you and talking shit all the time. I know like return the favor
Starting point is 01:47:30 Like you think Mike listen, but say some shit like this. No, I'm gonna bust his ass now. He better get some rest Yeah, still gotta come through. God give you 10 episodes. No, he gonna give you better get some sleep tonight One thing that he did Dylan Brooks did say that I don't know if a lot of people paid attention to he didn't say Right. He didn't say he was going like lock him up and do this. What'd he say? I'm gonna get him tired try to get him into the fourth quarter earlier So that's his defense against LeBron try to wear him down So at the end of the game, he don't have the moves that he's looking for like
Starting point is 01:48:10 His cockiness ain't what we perceive him. We're perceiving. Oh, yeah, but lock him down cuz he you know He ain't got no moves. He can't do he said nah, my job is to wear his ass down So but if we in the middle of the third it feels like the food order the fourth Yeah, and that's like it like, you know his ass down. So if we're in the middle of the third, it feels like the fourth quarter to him. He's already in the fourth, yeah. And that's, like, you know, the first time you hear him say some shit that has nothing to do with trolling, you can see where his mindset is. His mindset is like, yeah, I'm going to make him go this and this, and I'm going to block this. He's just saying, I'm just going to try to tire him all the way down so that I can get to the fourth quarter
Starting point is 01:48:39 and see what he got. So obviously he ain't paying attention to shit. The man on mental restrictions is paying 25 to 30 minutes a night. Nah, bro, I didn't, bro. No, he's been But yeah Not playing this shit. Of course not as we know a dog man said he was gonna be a restriction of that To you number one option your guy Your guy you realize what he got. Yeah, you're looking over that mother like I gotta play I gotta play
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yeah When I said 25 minutes out bullshit We go count the first 12. How about that? Need you to try I mean it is my 25 minutes after I need you to drive this motherfucker. 25 minutes after the first quarter. I need you to drive this motherfucker around the block real quick. Yo, this man ain't. Yo, this is what game what? Six, seven, eight of the season. Don't really think Bron really too concerned about game seven, eight of the season. So you talking about you going to get him tired and wear him out right now.
Starting point is 01:49:45 If it was a playoff series and you're in game six of that, you making these statements, then I'm gonna be like, go Dylan, get him. But it's villain shit. That's all it is. He's just playing villain. Like you set the tone early up in the season, set up the matchups. Yeah, for sure. Man, it's me and LeBron tonight. What's up? That ain't no competition, man. Because LeBron not buying into it. That's what I'm Like I said in beginning point exactly and bra buy into it it becomes must see TV
Starting point is 01:50:11 We we tune in to watch it, but we're not going into the entertainment value behind if Dylan DeVille if I kill you I'm brainless. Mm-hmm. And if you shoot me you famous what's the nigga to do? Come on, man Hey, man, I'm tired of y'all fans coming in a DM trying to argue with me about players Right this just seems weird now, all right, listen I Was a player. Mm-hmm. I played against the players, right? They teammates practice with them and worked out with them. So if the players and the team says something, we don't hear, we don't want to hear what your thought process is.
Starting point is 01:50:58 That's coming off the media. Okay. It just sounds stupid. Like the media ain't playing a game. They not in the locker rooms They don't know what the fuck is going on. They just reporting and you listening to them arguing with them. This is like Me arguing with your family about who you are as a person When you see dumb I
Starting point is 01:51:19 Just make up an opinion off of what I see me. Oh you a thug this that that that that and your family members I know he's a student. He does this he comes home this and it and I'm sitting there like hey stop dick ride Your family just did Ryan you don't know the't know the real they don't know what really happened They rationalize with irrational people They have an irrational conversation with somebody who is it but what I'm just saying is he's not like y'all taking what the media Has given you as full-fledged knowledge How they watching it from the tube. You and most of these reporters are the same view.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Y'all don't have... Think about when, rest in peace, Kobe. From 96 to 2016, 17, when he retired, they did not like his attitude. They thought he was the most selfish thing on earth.
Starting point is 01:52:24 After he retired Oh mama mama mentality is the best thing. Oh, everybody should have mama retarded. Wait, hold on Let me go back. Look at all your articles No, this is what you wrote all the time, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna allow you to sneak away with this shit. Yeah Right. That's not what we're gonna do here. The players now get the talk We're not letting y'all slide with all the goofiness. Well, just like what we just said, yes, what, Tuesday? We were talking about the Jordan Poole punch, right?
Starting point is 01:52:53 And so many people don't have the context that we have. So we can have a half of the story. We can tell just, like, can you give his opinion about it? We know what we were told. Then there's the media with just the video Just the punch so everybody's like, oh man, you gotta go put your hands up It's like man y'all don't even know what really really happened That led up to all that shit
Starting point is 01:53:19 Like when then when you really hear you be like, oh, oh, damn, I didn't know it was that deep. Like, I asked somebody talking about, like, yeah, with LeBron. I said, can I ask you, why do you hate him? I said, did you hate him before 2011? No. So why do you hate him? Oh, because he left to go try to win a championship. So what the media said and made him a villain. Yep.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Made him a villain. That. Made him a villain. That's your opinion from their opinion. You don't know why he left. You don't know the conditions that made him leave. You just, whatever the media said, that's what you decided to go with. Yep. So you don't like the man because of what someone else put out because they don't like him. Yep.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Perception. You know what I mean? Like because they don't like them. Yep. Perception. Perception. You know what I mean? Like I said, we're players. We was watching the articles. When it's game five, they got a big game, and you're saying his family members are sleeping with this person. Now this man got to try to figure out what's going on before a matchup.
Starting point is 01:54:22 The Wiggins shit. Next year, boom, game five. Oh, this is about to be a good one. Boom, LeBron James. Oh, here y'all go again. Part two. Like, why y'all keep doing this when a man's trying to win a game series?
Starting point is 01:54:34 I've never seen that in no other history. There was no, like, these are real things that y'all were doing to say, oh, look, he always losing. He's always losing. He's always losing. I'm sure you say this man's parent or this did this right before a game.
Starting point is 01:54:52 What you think is running through this man's head? Stop that bullshit what y'all talking about. Like, y'all didn't do this to no other human being that played in this league. Now, you're rigging the game and judging it. That's how they do it.
Starting point is 01:55:10 But that's not gonna stop. I mean I see people comment to you Gil and be like, he only made three all NBA teams. And like unless you're a nigga who's made four all NBA teams. Unless you made four plus. I made three with five attempts, but I can say this. Y'all can...
Starting point is 01:55:30 Hey, there's a... Before the age of 25, see how many players made three-time All-NBA, three-time All-Star. And then give me that list and let's talk. Fuck all that. Just the only part. You only. No. No that just the only part you only know That's either to say you only made three all NBA is there but I'm like I'm saying by 25 Name all the people that were name all the players I was three-time all-stars and three-time all NBA players by that age and then we can have a discussion of how you think about my game unfortunately you can never have that
Starting point is 01:56:07 discussion cuz I just always be like compared to what like what are you comparing his stats to who are you compared oh man you wish you only played four years in the league you was a bum listen compared to who, let's compare my bumness to the other bums. But the fucked up part is, they'll be like, well, I know I'm a bum. So then why are you talking? Who we talking about? Listen, I can tell you this right now,
Starting point is 01:56:33 on how I was thinking. When I scored that first bucket against Cleveland on the layup, you couldn't tell me shit. I'm an NBA player. You couldn't tell. When I went home in the summer, God, I'm a rock star. I'm a rock star.
Starting point is 01:56:50 You couldn't tell me nothing after I made that fucking, yo! In history, two points. Two points. I'm one of the, whatever it was. So there's, you can't, arguing with me is pointless. I can tell you that for sure.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I'm going to have a stat just like you're going to have a stat. You only did this. Stat man, stat man, stat man, stat man. You only did this. Shit, I know I did. I got the stats. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So we had some fun when ESPN dropped their top 100, and it was based on future projections of this season.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Future projections. No, it wasn't. That shit was a popularity list. But they were saying, oh, that shit was a popularity list. Okay, let's go. Don't get him all heated, nigga. You know how he went last time.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Does anybody have some cornbread I could give? No. No, you don't have no cornbread, nigga. He's going to eat your cornbread. We both going to get it. He can take mine too, man. He can have my cornbread. There's been plenty of times King look over here like, ah damn. Cornbread, take it, man.
Starting point is 01:57:56 You don't even got to ask me. You can have it here, hold up. I know you got something. I know my pants the same time. You got on my four, you got on my four, dude. He said he wore 36, but he's 38. Look, I'm shitting. My grandmama gave me that change.
Starting point is 01:58:11 I'm shitting. It could be both our bikes. After releasing their top 100 list early in the season, ESPN dropped their top 25 players under 25 list. So I'll just give you the top 10. You got Luka took the top spot followed by Ant-Man, Wimby, Tyrese Halliburton,
Starting point is 01:58:29 Ja, Kay Cunningham, Zion, Darius Garland and LaMelo Ball rounding out the top 10. So as y'all look at this list, you rolling with this list? Just keep it up there. I mean, okay, Ja Morant. Over Tyrese. I mean, victory ain't done enough yet to be. Zion up there. This was future potential as you guys
Starting point is 01:58:54 get better. That's what I said, fuck future potential. Didn't Jaron Jackson Jr. went defensive player of the year? Yeah. Okay, so why? Okay. Sorry. How is Cade in front of Zion and Darius? No, I don't know why. I like Melo right there. And as I always say, who be voting on this shit? Is he? He's probably better than Melo right now. You think so?
Starting point is 01:59:27 So, Scottie Bowens is rookie of the year in the year with K Tyrese Maxey yeah I don't know man I'm just saying Tyler he wrote a little bit higher he hired in jayler sure is John Moran for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. After that, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Zion after that. But even the wording future potential. So what does that mean? I don't know. I don't know what that means, man. Because you can future potentials. Then you can just say Victor at one and no one's going to argue if his future potential. I mean, he's he's he's what, 19 right right now 18. I mean true true. So you agree
Starting point is 02:00:08 to Lucas number one. Yeah, he's only 20. He's 24. Yeah. Yes. Anthony. Yeah, that's what I said. Jai is like, really? Jai is a real three. Yeah, well, oh you can flip him in Anthony. Oh, you could that's what I'm saying. You good good Good job. I mean, but you know, but anything but Anthony Edwards last playoff stint with this summer You can flip it These three you like and I like John I like He's like that's what he's guaranteed three. Yeah, absolutely. That's top three is I like mellow over Tyrese Halliburton, though Mellow ball up there. He don't get enough credit and Tyrese. I mean, he's nice. We got a team though Yeah, you got a little team he can play around like he do a little bit
Starting point is 02:01:00 I mean he do a little bit Eric there. He can like you're true point but mellow one of them ones when be I mean it would be playing right now nah he's not top a lot of them could play on the bad team they goddamn Jalen green look out yeah you can play I'm gonna tell you what he could play look out yeah yeah we don't see enough of him he's playing bad team yeah you need some That goddamn Jalen Green, look out. Jalen Green can play. I'm going to tell you what. He can play. Look out. Yeah. Yeah, we don't see enough of him.
Starting point is 02:01:27 He's playing a bad team. Yeah, he needs some structure, though. Scotty Barnes is nice. He is. He got a lot better, too. He got a lot better. He remind me of Kawhi. Got a lot better.
Starting point is 02:01:38 He remind me of Kawhi. That's how Kawhi kind of started. Defensive, that can score, and he started to really hone in his scoring a little bit more. He reminds me of Iggy and Kawhi mixed in a little bit. Lil' Karan? Nah, he's more defensively minded here. He's that point forward, that old school point point that true point for where he's sitting there Yeah, trying to get tennis is like at some point the offense will run through him as a point guard as
Starting point is 02:02:13 A point guard. I wouldn't mind putting him at the point. He's big. He knows how to make good plays hard rebounds offensive rebounds to Shooting the ball. Yeah. Yeah, he's got in the lab this summer. That's what I said. He's top eight for sure. Think so? Top eight? Can you put the list back up?
Starting point is 02:02:32 Let me see. Ventero, you think he better than Ventero? All-around game, yes. I mean, Chet. Chet Holger? Chet, we ain't seen enough. But, I mean, the skill set, yes. Chet better than Paolo right now? Evan Moley.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Has he been playing yet? Evan? Yeah. No, I mean like that. Yeah, he's starting to get his 20s and 10s in. Yeah, Tyler Herro, he hit a ceiling. You think so? Yeah, what is he going to do? Yeah, yeah.ro, he hit a ceiling. You think so? Yeah, what is he going to do?
Starting point is 02:03:05 Yeah, yeah. Josh, it is. I don't like any of the other ones from 20 down. I don't like France. I don't like France up there that high. He'd be hitting on the pick-ems. I'll just say that. He's all right.
Starting point is 02:03:18 Yeah, he always come through. I told y'all this shit before. The Alpine Sangoon. Sangoon, yeah, yeah, yeah. He nice. He nice. He nice. You can run, hey. What team?
Starting point is 02:03:28 Play for Houston. He kinda play like Scola. How Scola used to play. Oh! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Scola. No, he got some, he got some. Scola had the post work.
Starting point is 02:03:36 He got some Nicola in his shit. He, he passing that motherfucker, man. Dimes. Trying shit, you cut, man. Dimes. Trying shit. You cut. He behind the backs. He's diming that bitch. He trying shit, too.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone's like, yeah, this is one of Hakeem's products. Man, shut up. Just because he is, he's doing shit. Wait, wait. Before you even go there, let me ask y'all this. Someone get into DMC and shit. I can't wait until I can't pull up on you.
Starting point is 02:04:06 What do y'all think of Scoot so far? Who? Scoot. I think he's struggling a little bit, but he's at least open and honest about it. I'm surprised at the struggle since he was in, like, since he had the... The Ignite situation? Yeah, since he had the the NBA Experience two years before everyone else. He was the last person I thought would be struggling right now
Starting point is 02:04:34 Like big time struggle and Simon's is not out there Simon and it's Simon's team that he thought he was coming in. It's gonna be his team I mean, you know, it all depends like they got him at the one to like it was this and tough Yeah, he got that method to plan, two. Like, it's tough. He got him at the two playing defense, being a slasher like a D. Rose type. But he ain't got the D. Rose shit. But there's things that if this man is struggling at the two, there might be a reason why. Maybe he needs to be at the point so he can come downhill. Like, you know, like what they did with Tyreek Evans, right? Tyreek Evans was a point guard, right?
Starting point is 02:05:10 He wasn't a shooting guard. 25-5 at the point as a rookie is a thing. That's something to say, okay, this is who we're building. You put him at the two, Brungan, was it Urech? Yeah, Urech. man made him a no, no Well, unfortunately, he can't shoot the ball. So obviously we'll go under air pick and roll We gonna do this you taking away now He has to be guarded by twos when his advantages over points
Starting point is 02:05:36 But you changed the trajectory of this dude's game because you decided that he wasn't Appointed you need to bring in something like and i mean same thing with scoot he might be at a better point guard because of his advantage versus trying to guard too because now that's a a real matchup what are they saying he's more like a rondo type where he can't really shoot coming off but he can jump downhill but he can okay so he can't because he can't shoot why the fuck you got him at the shooting guard position? With a bunch of shooters. Bring him...
Starting point is 02:06:10 If he can't shoot the ball, bring him downhill. Let him come downhill. Let him use that energy because once he gets in the lane, he can dunk. What is Chauncey not seeing? What is Chauncey not seeing? Chauncey's looking at... This is a player that we're... Like, we would expect Chauncey to seeing? What is Chauncey not seeing? Chauncey's looking at... This is a player that we're...
Starting point is 02:06:25 Like, we would expect Chauncey to see what this kid can bring. But Chauncey's lens is from his eye, right? You know, I need the playmaker. I need solid, you know, playmaking. Boom, boom, boom. I can play him like Rip. Yep. You know, boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 02:06:39 He ain't got the jumper like Rip. He ain't got the jumper like Rip. You got to play him like what, Tayshaun? No, you have to play him like Ja Morant and Westbrook and You gotta play him like D rolls and Like I'll say my stuff. Yep like this soon as the break hit boom bring him down here
Starting point is 02:06:59 Let him let him see if he can get into them easy What's the names? You know, it's all about position and where the player's strength is. Is he going to get lost in the sauce? If he stays at a two, yeah. He's not a shooting guard. Dealing with an ankle injury right now, but, you know, we're optimistic for him. We want to see the kid do well. Yeah, it's over on the 16th.
Starting point is 02:07:18 It's still early, man. It's definitely early. It's time to figure it out. But how early is it early, though? Because we give these guys a lot of leeway by saying it's early. Early is 82 games. First 20 games? 82 games.
Starting point is 02:07:29 You give them a whole rookie year? 82 games. Well, he might not play all 82. Okay, but just think about it. You're not considering not a rookie. You're playing some games. An all-star, consecutive all-star will be touching all-star by his third year, third, fourth year. A superstar, he might fuck around being all-star his first year, guaranteed his second year.
Starting point is 02:07:58 An older player who's coming in the league, 21, be, if he's going to be an all-star, he's already touching all-star his first year, second year. But that superstar player is going to be touching all-star his second year. The regular all-stars, year three, year four. Yeah. Guaranteed. That's how it works. He's 19 years old right now, so, you know. Damn baby, man.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Yeah. Let's stop with the pressure shit, man. Man, that whole, like, it's just... Yeah, it know. Damn baby, man. Yeah. Let's stop with the pressure shit, man. Man, that whole, like, it's just... Yeah, it's going to happen, man. It's playing a tough position, man, learning night in, night out. When you're playing that G League night shit, you're playing... You're playing against nobody.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Playing against nobodies, man. But that's the question, right? How long do they got now? You know, they didn't increase the time limit of us allowing you to develop. It's like, it's decreasing. So for Scoop, if you're not being promoted and marketed to be the next guy like Melo was before he got hurt and he was able to come back and keep going, like Scoop, what's the time frame for him?
Starting point is 02:08:59 None. No, you don't have no, like, I don't have no time. Like, it takes a player at least two and a half to three years to adjust his game to find out how he's going to be dominant in this game. That's everybody. Go through history. Tyreek Evans had like four years. No, his sophomore year they brung in a point guard. So he played in the league like like, six years total, maybe?
Starting point is 02:09:27 Who? Tyreek, because he went to the Pelicans. Yeah, he, but I mean, what I'm saying is they took the reign. They just, they drafted somebody. Like, their point guard. They took his franchise tag off. Because they didn't know what they were doing. Remember, he was at the point, like they had the ultimate big man team. He's at the point, Dante Green, 6'11 is the shooting guard. Then they had-
Starting point is 02:09:51 Francisco. Francisco what? Garcia. Nah, he was off the bench. Martin. No, he wasn't. Nah, they had- Nocione. No, no that's- who was that damn three? Thornton. Thornton? Who was that damn three? Thornton? No. It was 2009, 10.
Starting point is 02:10:08 It was a white dude. It was a white dude. It was one of them foreign kids. Hold on, I'm about to get it for you. Yeah, Bane. No, before. It's before. He's standing three.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Bane was the point. Not before. Chris Caspi. Caspi, yeah. Omar Caspi. So he was the three. But look how big that line up is. Then they put Oubre and made the line.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Then Evans is the two, Casby the three. You made it long. I love you, Carbano, Oudre, Oubre, every- Oudre. They're the same shit. They're my type shit. Who let me in, fucker? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:10:40 They both let me in. We was doing a show one time. He was like, Oubre. I'm like, fuck. Oh, man. Oh, they know. They know. But yeah, but with guys like that, that's their trajectory, right? You know, they get through their rookie year.
Starting point is 02:10:53 They have a decent rookie year. They start really figuring out, have some big games their third year. I mean, their second year. Their third year, they... It's a whole nother... They dominating. We figure out at third, fourth year,
Starting point is 02:11:07 whether they're going to be it. Yeah. So we'll give them that time. Scooch, you got some time. We will refrain from doing any packing up for at least a couple more seasons. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:11:15 that's what I said. Look at, you know, Giannis, right? Giannis was an all-star his third year, right? Damn,
Starting point is 02:11:22 the MVP the fourth. Look what he was as a rookie. Real shit. That's wild to think. Or what he was as a rookie. Real shit. That's wild to think. Or just like the Markel Foltz kid. Yeah. Yeah. Struggled that figure some out.
Starting point is 02:11:34 Another different opportunity, different place. I wish he never hurt. All-Stars fourth season. I wish he never hurt his shoulder. We didn't get to see it the way we needed to. you took away you took away one thing that made him good his Shot right you mean like he was a shooter right a shooter that had this type of bounce now you say Are we gonna take a shot away now? You just got bounce. Oh shit Everybody's just gonna go under
Starting point is 02:12:02 Fine it sure Let's keep this thing moving head on over to mostly fans. Give us the music Did you say oh Smell like eucalyptus in here You be in the mood as soon as that music come on. He said, ooh. Smell like eucalyptus in here. Eucalyptus. All right, so first underdog question comes from H-D- I don't even know. I'm just going to read the letters. H-D-E-S-A-I-97.
Starting point is 02:12:40 H-D-I-97. Is it smart for the Mavs to continue to play Kyrie out the corner and keep him two passes away from the defensive rotation, or do they go back to having him one pass away? Hmm. He's always used to one pass away. That's how him and LeBron played, right? One's on one side.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Try to do it. If I don't like it, pass it right to you, then you can go. Two passes away, you're assuming that motherfuckers is going to help. You're just assuming that, okay, we go here, I'm going to go to here, and we're going to deny and come here,
Starting point is 02:13:11 they're going to pass. I'm going to look at you like, yeah. Nah. Especially if that second pass away is Tim Hardaway Jr. Obviously, it's not going to swing. Not at all.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Is that the question, though? Is Kyrie the swing-swing guy for the shot? Yeah. Right? Wouldn't you rather be the recipient? Okay. If it's smart for the Mavs to continue to play.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Let me just ask you, would you want to be the swing-swing guy if Michael Porter Jr. or Cam Thomas is the one before you? I know the rotation. If I know the rotations, I'm going I know the rotation, if I know the rotations are going to be the rotations, for sure, I'm going to live with that spot. Because I know I'm going to get at least... No, that's what they asked you. He didn't say the rotation.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Cam Thomas... Yes, I want to stay there. Cam Thomas and Michael Porter Jr. is the guy that's supposed to pass you the ball next. They only going to get... They're averaging one assist and zero. They got to get up that ball. They got to get up that ball.
Starting point is 02:14:04 They ain't doing it now. They gotta go and they ain't doing it now I got point they're not doing that. But you tell their teacher. They're two they're two removed. They're not no, they're the first pass. Oh No Yes, oh my Porter a swing swing corner who my Porter's in the corner. No my boy So what if Michael Porter's in the wing on the wing? And he you doesn't said is you it's him before you go on a Michael Porter on in the wing, on the wing? Man, you, that's what I'm saying. It's him before you. You in the corner, Michael Porter on the wing, Cam Thomas on the wing. Them two, just them two?
Starting point is 02:14:30 Well, no, just any one of them. Because it's only them two that's going to shoot it. And Clay. And Clay. And Clay, them three. Them three. Them three, they're not passing. Every other shooting guard.
Starting point is 02:14:39 I'm in the corner. I'm Dallas, and Kyrie can be corner, corner. It's either going to be Tim or Kyrie and Tim Tim Hardaway shooting at me shoot in action whoever it is right there one of them you got a bucket you got a bucket I'm getting it but we're cut if your question is should Kyrie consistently be the corner guy Mm-hmm and Tim Hardaway is that first pass and slot? But what would be the difference if you switched it tell me what the outcome we can go make a car I'll make a play and draw Tim's man. We're not talking about catch and shoot for Kyrie in that spot
Starting point is 02:15:08 We talk about make a play no He's gonna make the right play whether it's the shot or the dribble penetration You want your cat you want your three guys that we talking about gonna shoot that bitch shoot it before you can get you regardless If it's a good player not yes. Yeah, so the question is should Kyrie consistently be in the corner? The question, my thing is no. Because he's a better playmaker. He can make plays than some of those other guys on the team. Other than Luke, he's the other playmaker. It's situational. If it's
Starting point is 02:15:33 7 on the clock, 8 on the clock, swing, swing. They're shooting it. Swing, swing. They shooting it. No, they shooting it. They not swing, swing. Tim Hardaway Jr. is not swinging it, dog. If that's KCP, swing. He's going to play the right way. Nah, they moved the ball in Dallas. They moved the ball in Dallas.
Starting point is 02:15:51 Tim Hardaway Jr. ain't passing that ball. He ain't met a shot that he's not. He making them shots. Okay. He's making them, so he's taking them. But this is what I'm saying. If they do make those shots, they're making them shots for a reason. They're making them passes for a reason because they actually knew the ball okay
Starting point is 02:16:07 they move the ball okay so you're in he's you're in a corner right him Tim will if it's the right basketball play he's gonna pass it to me but he ain't passing that's why they're saying hey should you should Kyrie be first and then Tim second but Tim is making that shot that means you're not getting a shot but we as a team are still making fuck with Kyrie how Kyrie feel but we're making the play you if you want to be effective do you want him to be the the first pass out for Luka or do you want him to be the second but y'all telling me it don't matter if he's the corner
Starting point is 02:16:41 guy or the middle guy cuz he's gonna make the play that needs to be made anyway come on I touch it he's not gonna be the first pass if he's the corner guy or the middle guy because he's going to make the play that needs to be made anyway. He might not touch it. But if he the first pass out, he's guaranteed to touch it. If he's not touching it, the ball, if it's in Tim Hardaway's hands, it's going in. He's shooting that bitch. It's going in. We're good.
Starting point is 02:16:55 We're good. Now, let's put you in that corner. You. It's Kyrie in that corner. And the dude went down four or five straight in the zoo and the do this and the dude That's the third option ain't getting you the ball in the corner. Is he missing? It don't matter They do matter not getting the ball is that means you done went down five ten times He done shot. He's he's taking ten shots. You done got three
Starting point is 02:17:22 Are you happy? Is this the right play? Is this the right basketball play? No, the right play is to give it to the best player in the corner. If this is the right basketball play to make, I don't mind Tim Hardaway taking them shots if it's the right basketball. Tim Hardaway. How much Tim Hardaway make? You make $47 million.
Starting point is 02:17:35 I ain't talking about making. We talking about winning. What? We talking about winning games. We going to win games like this? If this how we winning, we going to win the way we winning. But you ain't winning. What's their record?
Starting point is 02:17:44 They don't matter. Six and two. They don't matter. Six and two. It don't matter. It do. If it's working, don't. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just because this nigga feel like he getting enough shots and touches, man, fuck all that. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Starting point is 02:17:55 Second in the West right now. Then why are you mad? Then why were you mad when Mark Madsen was getting all them threes and shots? He wasn't hitting shit. It don't matter. It do matter. It's broke. We need to fix it. And? It's broke. We need to fix it.
Starting point is 02:18:06 It's broke. We need to fix it. If Mad Dog making that shit, I'm cheering. Pass it to him again. When that shit is broke, you better sit hard and flummer in this bitch, man. We got to fix this. Is Tim Hardaway on fire?
Starting point is 02:18:23 Let's pull it up. I'm rolling with Timmy shooting that shit, man. Well, we don't think he should. I don't think he should be the corner man. He better play, man. Where's Tim shooting from? 31. He's at 18, shooting 44%.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Come on. Yeah. And number three? 40 from three. 40 from three? Rolling with that, man. 35, swing that bitch. Kyrie, play that spot.
Starting point is 02:18:49 I like my percentages with them. Yeah, 40 from three on nine attempts, so. 100% from the free throw line. I can tell you right now, if me and you was playing on the court, you ain't getting the ball in that corner corner. I'm going to shoot 45% if you do throw it to him. I'm just saying, I'm not. I like
Starting point is 02:19:10 my chances by myself. You would if we're going to win. If we're going to win, you're going to throw that bitch to me in this corner. You hear me? You hear me? Because they doubled him, that means your man is going to run at me. That means he's running every time. Hey, Gil.
Starting point is 02:19:25 Time out, time out, Gil. Why you don't want to make the extra pass, man? Because the corner cop is the corner guy. You're not going to make the extra pass? I shoot 48% from the corner, bro. I didn't see him. So you don't see our franchise player in there? Nah, coach.
Starting point is 02:19:39 I see him over there. We lost by six. I was looking at the back. We lost by six. Two threes. And obviously, you're a bad coach, but I keep putting me in this position. You know I'm going to keep doing the same old thing. Yeah?
Starting point is 02:19:52 All right. Next question is a video question from an underdog user named Sean. And where the ladies at? I mean. Damn. That's how you feel? I should. That's how you feel?
Starting point is 02:20:03 Lakers. Yeah, they suck. How long you going to keep blaming the schedule when other teams had a tough schedule and they made it work and y'all aren't being the teams that y'all supposed to be, like Houston or Orlando or the Heat? This nigga made a TikTok of it? What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:20:26 It's elaborate. Don't be joking on the fans, man. I'm saying he made a TikTok. He said- I know you got some jokes for him. I know you got some jokes for him. As a human being that is disrespected by people every day, I try to embrace all. I'm just a man of capacity.
Starting point is 02:20:40 Y'all can answer first. Let me go. I gotta look at something first. I just hate privately. So the question was about the Lakers. So how long are we gonna blame the Lakers schedule
Starting point is 02:20:49 when they can't beat teams they're supposed to beat like the Rockets, Heat, Magic? Three and five right now. Who blamed the schedule? I don't know. I didn't.
Starting point is 02:20:59 Are there some... Are there some... We're blaming injuries right now. So yeah, are the Cougars gonna blame injuries? Okay, so he said other teams that you going to blame injuries? Okay.
Starting point is 02:21:08 So, he said other teams that had great schedules, right? Boston. They scheduled first game, sorry-ass Knicks. Second game, sorry-ass Heat. Third game, fucking Wizards. Next game, fucking Pacers. Next game, the Nets. Next game, the Nets. Next game,
Starting point is 02:21:29 Timberwolves. A decent team. They played a team that got some superstars. They lost. Then they lost to the 76ers. They didn't play the goddamn champs first game of the season. Mm-mm. So you're going with the Lakers right now? Are you the Suns? What you gonna do? My son, the Suns played against who? They played first game. So you going with the Lakers right now?
Starting point is 02:21:45 Are you the Suns? What you going to do? My son, the Suns played against who they played first game? Goddamn go State Warriors. Hey, there's different games. Give me,
Starting point is 02:21:56 give us the Knicks in the goddamn heat early. Let us get our little momentum in. They're doing this shit on purpose. You already know. Lakers back against the wall and they make that push. He must be a Clipper fan. He's back. He's back. Look, he you already know. Lakers back against the wall and they make that push. He must be a Clipper fan. He's back, he's back.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Look, he got his yellow on, he's back. He's back, I'm back. Lakers back, baby! I'm back ever since motherfucking D'Lo! Ladies and gentlemen, who are Lakers fans. As long as D'Lo playing the way he playing, I got hope for the season. The current agenda we're pushing is that we don't have Jerry Vanderbilt. That's the agenda?
Starting point is 02:22:27 I mean, gotta work with what you got, Rashad. You know. Shit. Nah, I'm working with, you know, Adam Silver just, you know. You know, he going for the number one pick. I'm gonna throw a little tobacco in the blunt to get you over the finish line. You rolling with D'Lo for the savior, Villekas? No, as long as D'Lo's aggressive like that, it gives us hope. Hope.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Yeah. Hope. Anybody out there that's being offensively aggressive helps out LeBron and Anthony Davis. Went to school with a broad named Hope. Big old broad. Big old broad. Big old broad. Something about Hope.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Hey, the chat be trying to catch on to your boobie clothes too, nigga. I seen them. They be like, this nigga, can you be throwing out the coldest boobie clothes? I'm right there. I'm like, yeah, I met a broad named Hope. Meanwhile, Hope's somewhere like this. Man, it's a big old bra. It's a real bra.
Starting point is 02:23:28 It's a real bra. Hey, but really. You don't know me. It's a big old bra. That's a big old bitch, bro. There you go. Boo. Throw a jaw, man. Behemoth.
Starting point is 02:23:41 This is hilarious, man. Hold on. We have another one. Hey, this one's not from my underdog. He's writing just a video. Oh, man. Hold on, we have another one. Hey, this one's not from my underdog. He's writing just a video. Oh, shit. No name, just wrote a video. You'll appreciate this for sure. Hey, yo, Gil's Arena.
Starting point is 02:23:54 What, what? Nah, but I got two questions. First question is, what city had the best work? And then second second question. Why do people like McKinsey be hating on Brian so much? You know what I'm saying? Underdog user KidFreshy13. Shout out KidFreshy13.
Starting point is 02:24:16 You get your bag. It's Baron. It's Baron again picking out these questions. Okay, Baron. Okay, Baron. That's what we're doing. Best work? Miami. By far? Miami. By far?
Starting point is 02:24:27 Miami. Toronto got some excellent work. Immaculate. I didn't go out in Toronto. Toronto scared me. Because it was pre-season, and then one of our teammates was like, yeah, I can't wait till we go to Toronto. Because I've got to go back to strip club, put hands on the person. Right?
Starting point is 02:24:49 And I'm like, man, what happened in Toronto? That's what they were looking for? Yeah, they got to put hands on the person. What happened? And then he wouldn't say it. And then it was like, yeah, he got fellatioed by a dude. That was the dude in the strip club. He thought it was a woman woman but it was a dude
Starting point is 02:25:05 I was like oh that's what they're doing up in Toronto no thank you so yeah so I never went out in Toronto because of that story I was scared okay we're gonna go back to Miami then yeah yeah let's cancel out Toronto United States that was like that was my first introduction like oh shit so I never went out and I never went out to Ronda cuz you know, you're rookie. You don't know Dale's going on Arizona got some immaculate work Immaculate work in Arizona you were not in Arizona was owned. I got some immaculate work But you what Dallas city Dallas has some immaculate work You know, I never went out in New York into our
Starting point is 02:25:45 New York until I retired. New York? Boy, let me tell you something about New York City. The boom, boom, boom. Let me tell you something about the boom, boom, boom. Boy, shit, it's called, they called it butter back then. All I know is Miami and Atlanta Drake made a song on here. Here you go
Starting point is 02:26:19 Houston Atlanta Vegas Seattle has some immaculate work. I was Seattle boys work who went out in Seattle Work Pacific Northwest Seattle great reason bro. Hey, do my people Gilbert you went out of Seattle, Portland Yeah, Gilbert Hey Fuck what y'all doing on the double double teams and triple teams All right
Starting point is 02:26:49 Professional get work like this thought was the second option Hey, we on the we was playing like this you're were playing like this. Don't stall me. Don't stall me. The work is waiting for us. I forgot who his teammates were. Yes, bro. I had limited playing time. Yeah, OK.
Starting point is 02:27:13 I forgot who your teammates were. Ultimate scoring opportunities. OK. I was scoring on and off the court. This game started when they landed. What? That was practice. OK, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Yeah, yeah. Don't stall me. Oh, there's some sleepers, bud. Right? Some sleepers. Some sleepers. Sleeper cities that you wouldn't think of. You'd be like, no, there's some sleepers, bud. Some sleepers. Sleeper cities that you wouldn't think of. You'd be like, oh, this is nice.
Starting point is 02:27:28 I'd go back here. Okay. This is nice. Baron the Hen will appreciate it. Is that velvet? This is nice. Baron said he'll appreciate all that bass in your voice, Rashad. Yeah, I know, Baron. What was the second question?
Starting point is 02:27:37 Something about the cans. He said he'll appreciate all that. Something about the cans. Something about the cans. Why I hate LeBron. Why I be hating on LeBron. Why do you hate on LeBron so much? That's coming from Kid Freshie13.
Starting point is 02:27:46 That's two questions. Give Kid Freshie $200. Kid Freshie, if they don't give it to you, don't come to me for it. Somebody, man. Somebody got to hate on that man. Shit, Superman. Superman need a Lex Luthor. That's what people want to hear.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Shit. I'm not just letting those superheroes run around this motherfucker just nilly willy. No, nigga. Hit that nigga in the back. Get your ass up, nigga. I'm not just letting those superheroes run around this motherfucker just Nilly willy No nigga Hit that nigga in the back Get your ass up nigga You got more shit to do
Starting point is 02:28:10 So that means he don't have no reason He just likes to Yeah man Shit I'm just a I'm a hater I'm a hater I wake up hating That's what I do
Starting point is 02:28:17 Hate hate hate hate hate hate Who can I hate on this board The haters ball Number one hater Shit everybody need a goddamn opposition You need opposition. You have to bring balance to the force. So before we take off today, we had some breaking news earlier today.
Starting point is 02:28:30 Andre Iguodala has been appointed the acting executive director of the National Basketball Players Association. Tamika Tramalho, whatever, how you say it, stepped down from that role after less than two years on the job. Tramalho, see, you can't be really hitting them Gs, man. I've been around the world enough to understand that. Okay. But stepped down from that role after less than two years on the job. Tramalio, see, you can't be really hitting them Gs, man. I've been around the world enough to understand that. Okay. But step down from that role after less than two years. So, Iggy, break bread. Iggy, your first order as acting executive director of the National Basketball Association
Starting point is 02:28:54 is to get us credentialed for our NBA event, Just One. Oh, he can do that? We can put the call in. No, but that's the power he got? He can do something, Gil. Yeah! He can do something. I'm Yeah! He can do something. I'm official now.
Starting point is 02:29:07 Bear down. Tell him stop. God damn it. Iggy, you know what to do. I want all access passed. I want shit to the archives. I got some shit that I need to figure out. Who did what on December.
Starting point is 02:29:18 I got a whole bunch of games and tapes I need access to because I don't believe some of this shit. Iggy, I need some game tape. I need some game tape. I need access. My YouTube account needs footage without getting flagged by the NBA, god damn it. Iggy, your second act, tell Adam Silver, stop fucking with our Wi-Fi, please. Should be a little janky. Bear down.
Starting point is 02:29:42 Bear down. Third act, get a underdog and tell him if AD don't play and I go lower, that means I won. I've seen the future. But all good. Congrats to Iggy on that new role. Excited to see what he does in that space. And I guess that means his ass ain't coming back to the league.
Starting point is 02:29:58 He done. But he done. We done for today. It's been another great week on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo woo! We will see y'all on Monday. Shout out to Moonboots, man. You know the new shits, man.
Starting point is 02:30:14 Let me holla at y'all niggas, man. Moonboots, man. Put these motherfuckers on the map. We going to the moon. Feel me? I got some new shit coming too. I bet that's the end of strip club trucking and all. You know I'm going to be in this motherfucker's life. I got some new shit coming too. I bet that's the other strip club trucking them.
Starting point is 02:30:26 You know I'm with me in this motherfucker's life. Just this in a robe, these in a robe on. You know what I'm saying? The wife beater. Hit my chain on. These in a robe on. Yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:30:38 Oh yeah, shout out to... We'll be right back.

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