Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Debates The West's BIGGEST Threat To The Nuggets

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates The BIGGEST Threat To The Denver Nuggets in the NBA's Western Conference as Gilbert Arenas & The Gils Arena Crew discuss the teams balling out in the West like Kevin Durant & The Phoenix Sun and Anthony Edwards & The Minnesota Timberwolves and react to comments from the Nuggets' KCP that the Suns are the team he fears the most. They also dive into more stat padding occurring in the NBA after yesterday's discussion on Luka Doncic and examine the game of MVP front runner Shai Gilgeous Alexander to see if his league leading stats are getting inflated by meaningless buckets. Finally, they break down the complicated relationship between the Lakers' D'Angelo Russell and head coach Darvin Ham before discussing the greatest defensive "tricks" they've ever seen in an NBA game and speaking on the dark side of NIL ahead of this year's March Madness Tournament. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:08 Most Important First Date Question 0:05:38 Worst Date You've Been On 0:11:29 Aaron Rodgers Future Vice President???? 0:14:26 Steph Curry Wants To Run For President 0:16:10 Brandon Jennings Responds To John Wall 0:20:10 Ant-Man Is Stepping up Without Kat 0:32:59 Kawhi Leonard's Mysterious Injury 0:40:35 Suns Are The Nuggets Biggest Threats 0:47:47 Bucks Rookie Drops The Dunk Of The Year 0:55:10 Gil's Arena's Favorite Dunks Of Their Career 0:58:48 Is SGA A Stat Padder???? 1:06:58 How NBA Stars Pad Their Stats 1:13:51 DLo's Relationship With Darvin Ham 1:23:27 No Love Lost Between MJ, IT and Gil 1:43:34 The Future of NIL Deals 1:58:42 Protecting Young Athletes From The Dark Side of NIL 2:15:11 MostlyFans 2:25:18 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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No. Okay. I'm waiting for you. I'm letting you do your day. All right. You know. Let me cook. Let me cook.

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This is true in life, especially in dating, which brings us to an important topic. So, a user on Twitter asked, and we're going to take it a step further, what's the most important question to ask on a first date? Do you believe in God? That's your most important question? Yeah. And what if they say no?

I'm out. Bring them over to the light. Oh my God. I'm out. I'm out. Yeah, like... Which God, though? There's only one. I'm saying to some people, the devil's God. I'm just being... But if they say no...

That's the first question you... Not first but most important. All the sins your ass done done in your life. Are you saved? That's what I'm asking. I was talking about... Is you saved? All the sinning you's doing.

I'm asking are you saved? Because... One of us got to be. Because I'm saved so I'm asking before are you saved? One of us got to be. Because I'm saved, so I'm asking before we go any further. Before we go any further. Okay, most important question to ask on a first date. Shit, it shouldn't be if you got kids, but I guess that's it.

From experience, I guess that, yeah. If they say yes, is that? It should be, but for some people it's not. But for some people, shit is not. It depends on where you are in your life do you have kids and are they bad are they bad not a word about they bad I ain't yo they better not I ain't trying to meet him you know your get No, you're not. What's the most important question to ask on the first date? No, I already know. I know what I usually ask, but we can't... This is for everyone else.

This is a family show. No, I mean, this is for just everybody. Yeah. Right? Because everybody ain't rich. If you got a job. And you can't say just random shit. I mean- If you got a job and can't say just ran shit but I mean, we got a job no usually I just say but

Am I gonna hit after this right? That's usually but for everyone else. That's the first question Most important question. Yes. I got time to be waiting three days six days for your goofy ass Women wait no got no but for everybody else everybody else the most important question to ask since we all fake it when we first meet yeah absolutely we don't know whatever we're saying is meaningless so the first question and most important question should be who are you when you get when you fall in love but if you know people are faking it... But who are you when you fall in love? Because when you fall in love, that's the real you.

Because, I mean, obviously, whatever questions they was asking, a man, and he passed the test, didn't have nothing to do with when he got mad and started whooping your ass. So, obviously, whatever your questions were didn't dictate ass whooping

when he got drunk and mad So who are you and you get when he fell in love? Would he feel in love like when you breaking my windows in key in my car? Obviously my questionnaire. Yeah, then siphon out that behavior So who are you? Yeah, when you get when you fall in love, that's what I want to know I bet are you crazy or not? Basically, but no one's going to say it when they first meet. Are you crazy or not? Crazy. But a lot of people don't know they are.

That's what I'm saying. They don't know. It's just normal behavior. Right? Yeah. I ain't. That's just normal for me. Like, oh, is it?

Oh, do tell. Do tell. It's a good question to know. I just want to know who you are when you fall in love. Let's see what the real demons come out. want to know who you are when you fall in love. Let's see what the real demons come out. Are you a hitter or are you a runner? Some wild shit that happens.

Yeah, I know. For all the young people out there, watch Thin Live Between Love and Hate with Martin Lawrence. Oh, is this shit real? Change your perspective. Yeah, but the first question I ask, what are we doing? How many days? How many days you got to wait? Yeah, how many days?

That's the very first. Yeah. Does the appetizer get to the table before you ask that question? I'm going to ask. You get a free meal no matter what, but just realize. I got to line. I don't know if I got time. 33, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm not that type of one. Well, you need to be to get my attention.

I'm sorry. To be that, to get. Well, you need to be to get my attention. I'm sorry. To be that, to get my attention, for me to open up my wallet, you got to play ball. You want to do the church thing and you a good girl? Okay, cool. That line is somewhere over there.

I'm not looking for none of that. That line over there? Yeah. Just driving the car before I take it off the lot. When you going to spend $300,000 on a Rolls Royce before test driving to get in it? Push the seats back, push it forward, let me turn the station seat. Let me hit all the knobs. That's a nice car.

Okay. Check the car, guys. Here you go. So what if she would make you wait a week? I done already slept with somebody else, so it really don't even matter. So after the first seat, if it's... No, no, no. So every day you wait, your skills, your talent

has to match it. Right? See, when you give it up on the first date, you don't actually have to be good. Right? You can be an amateur and you're like, oh, I'm just happy I got that. Right? Months and months and months, oh no, you better be top tier. Because if I get it and you're not top, obviously, I'm not taking you serious. Mm-hmm

That's never happened you wait is Three months and got some amateur head and then Lord I know you didn't double back for sure. No, I know you do Okay, I know you didn't double back These people know you ain't doubling back on that now. So what's's the worst date and Gary know yours, but I'm gonna go right now Yo, I mean whole world knows yours or one of them then what's that wasn't a horrible date? I just okay that wasn't the worst ones Oh God is good. What's the worst date? You've ever been on? We'll start with you first, Brendan? Because you told me you wasn't.

I don't have bad dates. Never? No, I've never been on a bad date. Okay. What's a bad date? Yeah, what's a bad date? Worst, just, damn, this was not a good date.

I see your mind working in change. I'll let you guys be the determinants. Yeah, like, what's a, like up like that was considered a bad. I mean Apparently like no smell we put out because our shit was different This means That they could be like her breast ink. That's yeah. Well, I didn't get it on the first date You don't get it on the first day that's's a bad date. That's a bad date? Yeah, yeah. That's a bad date. If you're an NBA player, you don't get on the first date, that's called a bad date. What? Nah.

Not really. Not really. Nah, some dates are just cool. When you flew out, when they flew out? See that's the first date and they didn't give you a date. Oh, now that's the flying out. That's not a first date. So that's... Yeah, it is. So, son, that's not enough I'm flying out now that's not a first date. So that's it is so Magazine a shorty come on out and then they come on how that's the first day see I would do it

I'm more of a face to face kind of there was no filters What we've seen is what we see I'm'm a face-to-face kind of a guy Oh, so you got a meet him in person. Oh Okay Flash touch you I look at you. Okay. Y'all is crazy The first no no back when I was with the first date is like she's flying Like she stayed at the Ritz, you know, whatever for a season take out the opening door. See what you see for the first time It's an overnight back I'm with you has a photo ever not match what shit yeah like ooh

The photo yeah, no in the club chick don't look the same when you walk outside like them Damn the photo Or not the sets of lights. No. Oh, I think No, I was I was Club when you hit and then when you wake up in the morning, she'll look the same. I Hit that one too. It's like a two-for-one It's like a two-for-one like this a whole nother person right here Never

Gotta get this Never a dull moment and kills arena presented by underdog fantasy. I had a tear last night got a full right now You add them together. That's still seven still seven average Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. I had a 10 last night, got a 4 right now. All right, cool, all right. You add them together, that's still 7. Still 7 average. Let's keep it moving. Presidential election is less than eight months away. On Tuesday, news broke that Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers is on presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s short list

to be his running mate as VP. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? No, no, no. The first name you said before that. Aaron Rodgers, just quarterback. Is on a short list to be running mate as VP

on an independent presidential ticket. Reports are Rodgers could be interested. So we gonna quit his day job? Get the fuck out of here. Motherfucker quarterback, man. Let's go to the next topic.

He not getting your vote, can you? Motherfucker quarterback. He didn't play last year, right? He got hurt the first snap? He did suffer injury early into the season. Is he healthy? Is he back? He's going to play next year.

He'll be playing. So therefore, this shit is a non-fucking story. He had four snaps before his injury. Can I just tell you what's going on in the... I know. I heard it earlier, too, but I just tell you what's going on? I know. I heard it earlier, too, but I didn't think shit of it when I saw it. No vote coming from the Martin family? The fuck we voting for Aaron Rodgers and them folks?

Because he watched fucking Fox News? Fair enough. He got the political fucking app on his phone that he'd pay attention to. Political app? The fuck? I'd pay attention to. Political app. The fucking, yeah. I'm a politician now. Yeah, what the fuck. Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, I don't. Nah. No vote, no vote. Nah. They don't give a fuck about if Aaron Rodgers running for VP and Robert. We don't care. Next topic. They don't know.

Next topic. You heard him. I'm just saying, though. Can you say next topic? Nah, I'm just being honest. Like, that's. Nah, I feel you. That's a story, yeah, for some people. Not for us. Don't know next topic you heard him Say next topic It's a story yeah for some people not us not it's not a gills arena. No for What about Steph Curry also hasn't ruled out a presidential bid after his playing career said were you bringing the Warriors? See once again I said nothing about the Golden State Warriors.

I am merely talking about Wardell Stanley Curry. He said he had to rule out a presidential bid after his playing career while making an appearance on CBS Morning to promote his new book. Curry said that becoming president one day is a maybe. He said he wants to use his platform for good. But let's move the topic forward. Which current or former player would you trust the most to be leader of the free world?

Ooh, what kind of world do you want? As free as possible, guys. Antonio Breen? Deshaun Stevenson. I want Deshaun, baby, yeah. You talking about free world. Woo! Boy.

No prostitution going to be legal, boy. And every state. Oh, my God. I can just imagine. Even Puerto Rico. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be good. Hey, hey. America be fun.

Let's just say that. Brendan, which current or former player would you trust the most to be leader of the free world? Fucking Deion Sanders. What? Fucking Deion Sanders. That was your teammate? What? When y'all play together?

Oh, you said, oh, teammate. I just said former player. I didn't specify sport, Gil. Oh, I thought you said teammate. You was using a Gilbert Arenas level loophole. Oh, former player. Oh. Yeah, Deion Sanders.

Yeah, I'm going to go with with... Why I thought you said teammate? No, I changed it. You saw it earlier and the doc had to update it. Keep you on your toes, Gil. Keep you on your toes. I knew you was going to be up in some shit today. I appreciate your dedication to the craft. No, I'll send you a message next time.

No, that's okay. I thought teammate, then I had to expand it out because you just never know. Who you saying? You said Deion? Deion. Okay. Prime time.

Or OJ Simpson. Ooh, I don't... Nah. Nah, yeah. All right. All right. I mean, he got a job. What'd OJ do?

So, I mean, nobody care about him getting a job. He got a job, right? Mm. Underdog fantasy. Woo-hoo. He was on the team. Hey, man, you're next No Jess Which is K which Colonel former player would you trust the most to be leader of the free world?

Shame baddie a that, you're trying to have a nice world. Real world. Rashad McCants. Okay. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's a round. Okay? Yes.

Okay. Rashad, yeah, you get up there, you start asking him questions. Boy! That's a good pick. He's going to be moving this motherfucker. That's a good pick. get up there you start asking them questions boy I fully fully expected Rashad his vice president the bar balls hell yeah never lost I fully expect Rashad to be in the group that they could be up there debating. They'd be up there debating like a boss. That's what we need, baby. All work issues.

All work-related issues. That's his platform. And we know, hey, fellas, prices will be low, real low. With the same. Stabilize. This will be the White House. Huh? Be the White House for real.

Yeah. Stabilize the economy. Be the White House for real. Yeah. When Rashadabilize the economy. Be the White House for real. Yeah. When Rashad returns to the show. Dr. Uman will have a heart attack. All right, let's keep this thing moving and shaking. Man, dog.

Come on. Brandon, last time you were on the show. He porked on the front lawn. Yeah, yeah. White women. Dr. Uman, he be out there, boy, five. Uncle Rock is me. Brandon, last time you were on the show, we talked about a clip of John Wall saying that he cooked you in Isaiah Thomas.

Make the work. Back in high school. It's been circulating around, so let's take a look. Somebody make the work work again. Oh, John Wall, you got some explaining to do so yesterday I posted this video of John Wall saying he cooked Brandon Jennings and Isaiah Thomas first game guess who we got Brandon Jennings Isaiah Thomas I'm like the whole show was on us at 34 that's when I knew I was John Wall when I knew I can go ahead go ahead Brandon

Jennings Isaiah Thomas I'm like it's over now. But you guys saw both the comments from Brandon Jennings and Isaiah Thomas. They're saying, stop the cap. But thankfully, we have some good, wholesome, no-cap media outlets like Gills Arena, sponsored by the Underdog Fantasy, by the way, where we can talk about s*** like this. John Wall said something, man. John Wall did say some s***. No, no, he said he bust your a**. He said me and Isaiah Thomas. Oh, he bust your a**. He said me and Isaiah Thomas.

Oh, he bust your a** together. In two quarters. So that means he had 15 and a quarter on us. On me and IT. Damn! No, no way. Did you talk to IT? Did IT say something?

Yeah, I talked to IT already. He said no too. 15 and a quarter? That means... He said he had 34, I guess. That means... Yo! He was...

Yo! I got into Wednesday to get to camp. Uh, stat. Stat, man. Stat, man. We was stat, man. I'm about to put a into Wednesday to get the camp of staff So bread is you bumping them yeah, that's me bumping John Wall right there I didn't know he was at that time so you don't know who it was No, I didn't know who he was at that time at that time. So you don't know if he had 15 per quarter I know he didn't for sure

But the next year or not he was not John Wall is him though No, what I'm saying is I know you don't know him right and when you bumped him, but he did leave there number one There's no way in hell I'm bumping coming down dunking like that bumping and you getting 34 and you know what I'm saying is Whatever he went there ranked you didn't know him, but when he left he was ranked number one in the country Last year he had to be killing something Lance Stevenson was when he left No, no, Lance was the one when he when everybody got there They said when when when everybody left John Wall was number one. So when I left

Everybody after my senior year he became the number one player. Oh Is what you saying? I don't know. I don't know they said he went to a camp. Yeah, he became the number one player. Oh. Is that what you're saying? I don't know. I don't know. They said he went to a camp. He wasn't ranked. He drove down from Charlotte and then went there and then became. What camp was that?

That was Reebok U. So Sonny had left the AAU program, and then Chris Rivers took over Reebok U after that. So it was like a camp that they held in Philly. But he didn't give us 34, though. But shout out to John, though. Y'all was, I ain't gonna lie, y'all was little. We was little? Yeah, y'all was little.

IT looked like a 12-year-old doll. IT was little. He was little. IT was always the little one. He was little. So you called Cap on the story? Yeah, that's Cap. Okay. Yeah. But shout out to John Wall, though. He's still, he's one. He was little. So you called Cap on the story? Yeah, that's Cap. Okay.

Yeah. But shout out John Wall, though. He's still, he nice. He's him. Was that like, was Peach Cap? Was Peach Jam still popping then? Yup. It was still?

Yup. It was all Nike. Yeah. So Peach Jam was still popping, ABCD? Bob Gibbons. What was that? In North Carolina, Bob Gibbons tournament. That's when, yeah, we played at North Carolina Duke and then you had Houston tournament, Houston

Hoops. Yeah. So you played at Houston, Houston Hoops. So you only know about the Bigfoot for Vegas? Yeah, big time tournament. Oh, big time tournament. What you want to say here? The pumps? What was that called? Double pump.

That was just called double pump? No, best of the west. Yeah, best of the west or best of Summer, some shit like that. I think. Those were the only two I went to. I never went. Cal State Dominguez, Long Beach, all the Dominguez. My team wasn't good enough to go that far. You know, stay local. It was local.

So the only AAU program still around from them days is Compton Magic, huh? Yeah. That's the only one. That's not our talk. Yeah, that's the only not out. Oh, but the bit was so funny is back see Compton magic started when I was and it was just Compton dudes. So yeah, it was my He was on the B squad. We wasn't a we was B squad. He was a coach for the B squad All right, so he was yeah, he was with Adidas on the B squad Then he started his own program which Compton magic that started with like Jeff Trepangy now So it was just Jeff Trepangy Tito Maddox just Compton dudes

Let eventually yeah, then eventually they spread out. No, no, I mean just shout out to Compton Magic They're the only one still around like them. I think Dino do you know still do you know still like Pingo like pangos pangos? Yeah, I go still going on so a shout out to them man. We're still going everything's Then she everything's on change because it became more Water I guess it's watered down. Nope. Well, right Shoot, oh shoot companies Like, you know, it's a problem when kids got to try to figure like I Was talking to a parent and we were trying to team up.

Both our sons were trying to team up last summer. Two good players. And he was like, well, I want to play on the Nike circuit so I can have a chance for the USA. And if I want to play with Adidas I get you know, you know ABCD camp I Mean I ABCD but a McDonald's all-american camp and just the thought of it. I'm like damn is We got a pick now between Companies not if you really good, you know, yeah, I must say yeah It's really good. You can go play for USA basketball for what you want on you. Yeah, but but but just the thought but

It's the problem. That's crazy. I just like that. That's crazy Then you got to pick a side that early Yeah To try to position yourself and your kids to to go down a certain road that then it leads to college Where's what you weren't on your feet college matter all that matters man. So no stars The stars then it don't but it do it shouldn't be important I mean LeBron was a thing though LeBron was ABCD adidas all the way and he's the face of Nike Bad was bigger

That was Nike huh and his night When you get to that level is I mean but so did their gross like their girls wearing Nike all through all high school And then he was ABCD campus last year and end up signing with Adidas like yeah The game has changed we're gonna talk about it a little later in the show Shout out to ABCD camp signing with Carroll no matter what Shout out to Sonny that was the only camp I went to got hurt first day didn't even get to play But I stole a whole bunch of PS2s or whatever it was back then. Got a whole bunch of them at the crib. How did you transport the PS2?

My bag. I went there and I didn't have nothing in my bag. I didn't have no clothes, none. Especially back then, traveling was easy. You could take all that shit, too. I took all that. Give me that. No draws, Gil? ABCD camp was lit. I caught a greyhound.

Bam. From Dallas to Newark. Bustin' it. How long was that trip? Like, shit, too fucking long? Damn. 17, 18 hours or whatever it is. Wow. You scared to get on a plane? Couldn't afford it.

Gilbert? No, you didn't? Well, what part of... No, they didn't pay? They didn't pay? I wasn't like... Y'all niggas was good Nice to write it by chance But guess what motherfucker I didn't catch the bus home that's there we go

There you go, that's goddamn sure Damn sure Dunk shit block shit block first class This guy I showed up like it. Nobody knew I was bro I'm with ABCD man. That shit was foreign. I got lucky me and the dude was my teammate He was six five lefty guard like Mike was nice like Passionate like cat the hole

So she got out that bitch and and I went I did what I do. Mm-hmm. Let's throw the ball up nigga we're gonna... hey all these names in this bitch don't even... I don't know who nobody is. I'm saying Colbert's the number one player in the clay, walking around with the radio, the big-ass June. Everybody following him around and shit. All the names from the 96 class was there. Trace McGregor, right? Like, he was 97. He might have been there as a youngin'. Like, he might have was there, but I wasn't.

I didn't know nobody. Like, Jermaine O'Neal, everybody was there. Stack, like, the whole... Oh, that class. Rock Lloyd, like, Mel Lloyd. Like, yeah, I was the class of 96. Where's the film? We need the film.

Jaheim Holloway. You was some dog. There's people sitting on them films. People got film. I'm pretty sure they do. You need to dig it up because you can see me hanging on them people's furniture. Damn sure. Flight home, bag full of gear. I talked to Sonny

a few years, a couple years ago, man, he reached out and got my number from somebody. And just like, my,

cause you know, name pop up on your phone now. I'm like, Sonny, oh shit, I'm hell ripping out. So like,

I just wanted to say I'm so proud of you, man, I remember your story when you came in. Yeah. Dead ass, bro.

Like, y'all think I'm exaggerating all this shit. No, we do not. We just thought that you got up. get there. Like, no, a bus, nigga, I was six, Yeah There that brother like y'all think I'm exaggerating knowledge Do not we just get there like knock a bus and they got was six eight at the time. They're gonna gray hand Yeah, I didn't want to you. I didn't want to happen. I just figured you had seats. No Well, I figured you just I figured you just sitting sideways like this Sure, what I have we can get coming on a bit whatever we were doing to get Hey all them stops and getting off, stretching and shit

in a small-ass town, on the way to Newark. Dead-ass, bruh. And having to get out in Newark, that's why. What? Downtown Newark. Right? Didn't have no idea until I went to go play there. Like, oh, shit. It's an experience for those who haven't been. You know that's how Trace McGrady made his name.

In the CD? Yeah. He went there, nobody knew him Trace McGrady made his name. ABCD? Yeah. He went there, nobody knew him, then left the number one player. That's wild. Shit was crazy. Huh?

Yeah, in fact. I'm just saying, how do you go to just ABCD, just one tournament, and you become the best player there when there's a whole Nike circuit

that wasn't even, those guys wasn't even there? Because ABCD camp was everybody, the best players was there also there was oh so back then I guess you're right back then you can't get and can you get invited to the ABCD it was it was no rules. So what happened, they changed the rules when Kevin Love was playing at the Nike camp and he went to ABCD to go play against Greg Oden. Didn't they change that? Give him the microphone. Give him the microphone.

Yeah, we can. Yeah. Hold on. All right. So the rule that happened was when Kevin Love played Nike, he went to play Nike, then he went down to ABCD to play Greg Oden for one day. When he did that shit, a lot of people got really upset, and they changed the entire rule where you can't,

you got to pick a side with the whole thing. And that pretty much split it down the middle of that summer. So Kevin Love, okay. You remember back in the day, but my friends would come scoop us. D-Rose also, too. You got to put D-Rose in there, too. Let's look. Because they're the same class, so. You got to put D-Rose in there, too. Let's look. Because they're the same class, so they both came to ABCD campus.

But back in those days, you was getting scooped up. Like, they'd just take you to the little spot, get you some shoes, and next thing you know, you was on. I played Reebok in high school. Hey. Like, my AAU team was Reebok. Reebok was killing it. Oh, no, we had gear for days.

Now, we was the freshest team at every tournament. Like, we was the only team that we changed uniforms every game. Damn. Like, every single, and our coach, him and his wife, whatever color uniform we was wearing, him and his wife matched whatever color we was wearing. She keeping the stats and all that and shit. No, we was fly.

We took three teams, and not one person on the first team paid for shit Third team had all the bad players on it like they like they didn't win a game at no tournament Three team it was so it's three teams same division right high school. Yeah, I was like the a team to be Always the B team. Yeah, we got why I said I was always the B team. Yeah, so we... We got that goddamn A team. No. Me and Dunleavy.

Gold, silver. Me and Dunleavy was basically what? We was the silver team. Mm-hmm. And we were the first two NBA players... That's the way it go. ...out of the group. That's how it go. Let's keep this thing moving with a little hibachi time.

The OJ sound effect. Damn. Wow. Y'all heard that? Stop playing, man. Wow. Gil, you play too much. Gil, you play too much.

No, you ain't the only ones that's going to be trending. DJ, hear that, damn it, man. He can't catch me. He can't catch me. Woo! So after taking the elder- He caught the last two. I'm just kidding.

Allegedly, he caught the last two. Allegedly. He caught the last two. He caught the last two. Did you hear that, Cam? He can't catch. Woo! He caught the last two. Allegedly, he caught the last two. Allegedly. After taking the L to the Lakers on Sunday. Close that door. Oh, yeah, you're right.

So, never mind. He didn't catch it. Not similarly. After taking the L to the Lakers on Sunday, the Wolves were back in Staples Center Tuesday to face the Clippers So when Kawhi Leonard left the game following the first quarter with back spasms the Wolves took advantage a race in a 22-point Clippers lead Went on to win by 18 and man led all scores with 37 points go along with a rebound five assists. Wait, wait, what? What? Oh, my God. 37th piece. Yes.

Oh, my. That's that man. They won by 18? They were down 22. I want to say, and I know you hate stats, but it was like the first team to be down 22. Give me that. Come back and take a 22-point lead in the game.

I think they won by 18. Give me that. You look like... You look like... Good case. Boy, you mind me or me, I tell boy. Why you look just like K-Mart? Nikhil Alexander-Warner.

That shit, didn't he? Added 28 points, including five three-pointers in the win. So after the game, Ant basically said the Clippers were food without Kawhi. You exploded in that third quarter. What were you seeing out there? Just a bunch of mismatches. Yeah, pretty much.

Care to elaborate? I mean, you know, their best defender is Kawhi. Kawhi went down and, you know, they was just putting two on me and trying stuff. So, and I hit one shot and I just got going. So, the Wolves are 2-2 since Cat went down with a meniscus injury. He recently had surgery, expected to be re-evaluated in four weeks. That is re-evaluated don't mean he'll be back on the court. But what growth has

Ant-Man shown in his leadership so far as the Wolves get ready for this playoff run? You know, this reminds me of that year when KD went down and Russ had the team and then by the time KD came back, it was a whole different beast

in that person. So with Ant-Man having the team for himself for like a good month, month and a half, probably all the way for the rest of the season, this will change the tide and show him and the rest of the city that he is that dude, right? Because, you know, he has to carry both scoring loads. So, you know, it started from the summer. You know, summer with the USA. Then starting off the beginning of the season. Not now. We're going to bring you off the bench.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, so this for know, this for himself, this ain't has nothing to do with the Wolves. For himself as personal growth, this is gonna tap into a whole nother level because now he has to carry, you know, the full load and you're not gonna be able to rewind him back.

Oh, I agree. Yeah, no, he's gonna, yeah. He's probably gonna be the face of the league. His approach? Mm-hmm. This boy good, man. Mm-hmm. Like, just footwork.

You can tell, like, he say he learn the little slow Euro step, watch him on his teammates, the guards will do it. Now he out there just slowing you. Yeah, nah, he's, yeah. You know, he's, yeah. You know, he's a dog. Yeah. Like he's gonna be the face of the league. He got it all, like everything.

Like he's, it's gonna get scary. If people been making those MJ comps, I mean, I'm just, especially after that block the other night, he hit his head on the rim. The block, the demeanor. What he doing on both sides. Just the demeanor, like the demeanor he got. He love the hoop.

Yeah. He's smiling, he just love the hoop. And you gotta respect that and to go along with that gift. I mean, is there a possibility this world team gets better in Cat's absence with Ant-Man not running the show? No. Okay. I never believe in a team is better

without a star player, right? I mean, you know, other players step up and as a collective, they can seem better, but when you take a dominant player off the court, it's really kind of hard to sustain the greatness. So without Kat, you know, it's going to be, in theory, easier to guard him because now you don't have to worry about this four that's floating everywhere.

But just him himself, he gets to be one of those guys that just gets to be determined and really gets to dominate individually. But like you mentioned now this sets him up for next season yeah but it forces him to raise his play level now like he don't got no choice now you gotta have to you there's no average whatever he was averaging 24 20 there's no more average in 24 25 26 there's none that's gone now he has to average 31. And it's time for him to take that leap this year. I think he can.

I think he can do it. Get more shots, more free throws, ball in his hand more. But I don't want people to sleep on Nas Reed, man. I understand what Cat was doing. Cat is who he is for that team. Nas Reed ain't no slouch, dog. He's a 4-2, right? Stretch for it.

Yeah. And he's quick. Hey, think Cat getting that thing go fast. Go watch Nas Reed play and look how fast he getting it. Hey, you got to respect his letting it fly. And he can put it on the deck. He can handle it. He a guard trapped in a big room.

Oh, he's a New Yorker, right? So he's a guy that can replace cat. Yes. Well, I'm so don't I don't think they gonna miss a beat Yeah, they had ended up resigning with the Timberwolves this offseason. Oh, so he signed the contract Yeah, he resigned with the squad. He pursued a free agency. Probably could have went some places and started we came back to this team So he's done the country for how long I think it's like a three-year deal if i'm not mistaken so they can trade cat and i mean they can trade cat and get some better pieces if naz reed plays well well i mean if we if we see it from this squad then like i said cat had the venetian surgery will be reevaluated in four weeks as you guys nigga you heard what i just said i'm just don't i believe

that's accurate there's some are coming up. If they play well. Because Cat. If they play well. Moving to last. And Niles Reed averaged about 18 to 22. Cat is gone. Is basically what we're saying. And this is how the NBA works, right?

This is definitely a business. And he is cheaper. Yeah, yeah. Cheaper for him. Yeah. But I think we will see. Obviously, I said Cat. Four to be re-evaluated will likely probably

miss some playoff time if this translates to the postseason. Yeah. And you know, big men heal different, so. Yeah. Big men heal different.

They just said re-evaluated in four weeks. He played in four weeks. And he lugging around them motherfucking 23s, nigga. 23s. Hey. Lugging around them goddamn boats.

That ain't, that ain't. 22, 23, he got some fucking, big fucking feet. So, as I mentioned previously, Kawhi Leonard left the game. Long twos, nigga. Kawhi Leonard left the game after the first quarter. Shot him in the locker room. Ended on a play. It was really hard to kind of tell what happened.

But left the game and then dipped out, street close. Dealing with back spasms. So Kawhi's status uncertain at this point. Clippers are 7-8 in their last 15 games. Get with us. No, I'm just saying. I've never in my life seen, in the middle of the game, a dude just bounce.

Ah, y'all. I'm out of here. It's just like, you hurt, you still wait for your team. Hey, what's that? Now y'all doing good game, y'all. Back hurt. You got to go. I read something they for your team. He was that I don't get y'all back hurt So we gotta go here Sunday try say he couldn't know he couldn't get comfortable Couldn't sit down. Okay, I don't have chairs. So what are you gonna do to go home? You gonna do the same thing?

Going back into your train table. Yeah lay down Pat besides my rub on it right you're in the back, right? All types of shit. All types of shit back there. Nah, it's just funny. It's just funny. You can spend the night in that motherfucker if you want. Hot tub in the back, like anything you can think of to heat that back up. What quarter did they have him leaving? They just showed the video, I think, just later in the game.

But it was, I'm going to say they showed that video in the second half, so... So that'll be third, fourth quarter? Yeah. And Tigginshaw probably got some... Probably said his goodbyes. Yeah, that is late in the game. I don't know. We don't know. But...

It's just funny. Just like, yeah, okay. All right, get out of there, fella. So Kawhi's played in 58 games this season. Only had seven go to hit the minimum. So played the entire first quarter leaving the down, Plipper's downtown arena during the second quarter. So that video. Oh so he left. So he basically showered and bounced.

I mean. Yeah. He might have just bounced. You never know. No treatment. So. Oh well. So how concerning. No heat, no ice, no nothing Beat this LA traffic Beat this lead out

It reminds me of that story I heard from The Blazers back in the day With a Was a JR rider He's podcasting now so someone got to ask him this They said At halftime He was having a horrible first half rider he gonna have because he's podcasting that so someone gotta ask him this they said um

at halftime right he was having a horrible first half halftime they asked uh damon stoudemire you where's jr where's jr mo cheese that where's jr so they had to go back and it was like they said yo jr we're about to start they said he had a shower yeah man tell coach i ain't got it man. I Ain't got it today, man. I'm gonna go home Jane got it man Like I got it doesn't like someone got asked if that was a true story cuz that was funny issue and I heard it They are right in the area pull up Got respect

So every way for details on Kawhi. You better find it. Kawhi. What are you talking about? It ain't in the shower. I know that. Our concern is Kawhi's injury and the Clippers' recent struggles.

Like I mentioned, seven and eight in their last 15 games. Nah, I mean, he probably had a little back tweak. I mean, it looked like he was walking, so it didn't really... I mean, I think for the most part, I mean, backs are really a serious injury.

Let's just be honest about that. That, knees, ankles. So, you know, hopefully, you know, whatever it is, it's not weeks. Yeah. Couple days, a little weekend, 48 hours. Been pretty healthy this season. Yeah.

Been instrumental in the Clippers' success. Can you ever deal with back spasms? Not spasms. Just cramping, but I don't know. Nothing with my back. But you mentioned that back can be a tricky issue. spasms just cramping but I don't know nothing with my back we're good like you mentioned that back can be a tricky issue there are other people but I've heard and so you heard the bad stories about mm-hmm people back taking them out

but I've never had back issues but I remember I was getting an MRI you know MRI is the long one, right? Yeah, where they put you in the sitting. They put you in the sitting, and you'd be sitting a damn hour, 45 minutes. Yeah, and they take your move. Yeah, so I was sitting there, and I don't know how I got in there. And the angle I was, my back was, like, I had to stop. Hey, no, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Like, yo, I'm done.

I can't. My back is killing me. Like, my back, I had to get out. They had to carry me me out and I had to lay on the floor and and then like wiggle it around So I was like damn just me sitting there had my back Begging tight hamstrings tight and pulling on you all that but not nothing Serious where miss time because of it. Okay? So Demi Poe, these standings.

I want to say, yeah, so Clippers currently fourth. The playoffs started today. They're playing Pelicans. They're playing the Pelicans. With home court. Yeah.

Not a terrible matchup. If they go 4-5, no matter what, they want to play the Pelicans. Yeah, so. Shit. And I would say, how much right now, we talk about this Western Conference

and how crazy it's going to be, how much do you feel like teams are posturing, trying to figure out what matchups they can get, you know what I mean? Definitely. When not to put their best effort. What's so funny is I had made the comment, and I guess someone asked Paul,

or I guess one of the co-hosts asked Paul George, and he said they don't really do that anymore because of the playing games. Okay. But he said back in the day, yes, that was a thing where everyone's watching each other's seating, trying to position themselves in a better spot. You don't see one tanking to go to two just because somebody's at one. But those last five games, for sure. We're going to see it.

The last five games, for sure. It's the playoffs. You're trying to get to the championship. So whatever road you've got to take to get there, you're you're just the playoffs right you're trying to you're trying to get to the championship so whatever road you got to take to get there you're gonna get there i don't this is like this is a fight right you know i don't want to fight the biggest motherfucker the first round like i'm come on dog because even if i do win right even if i do win what kind of energy level do i have for the next round right so it it does it does like matter does matter on playoff seeding. And they can say they don't do it, but you can just watch their behavior last week.

Oh, so both of you. Okay, so your whole starting five gone, but y'all ain't trying to take this game? All right, bet. Timber was currently in third spot. They would face the Suns in the six right now if the playoffs started today So let's talk a little bit About what's going on. Yeah, that's Minnesota would be out of here out of there. That's an unfortunate situation So Katie's been out here cooking last four games after thirty eight point seven rebounds nearly five four assists five assists

Excuse me sons are three one during that stretch only loss coming to the Celtics. During a recent interview with Chris Haynes, KCP was asked which teams are the biggest threats to the Nuggets in the West? A healthy Phoenix, a healthy Minnesota, because Minnesota has always been tough even last year. That was potentially going to be there, you know what in that spot there now and I would say And this is a lot of young team like okay sees on the rise to marriage it's like the first two children above us and then

And then I helped you Phoenix So do you agree with KCP saying that the sons are the biggest threat to the Nuggets in the West? Healthy, yeah. Healthy Suns squad? I think so. With the talent that they got with D-Book, with Bradley Bill and KD, yeah. Yeah, they're definitely a threat healthy. Can you agree?

Yeah, it become a half-court game, man. And, shoot, when you got three scores, three prolific scores that can carry any given quarter, and helping is limited when they're out there, because they're going to play big minutes, playoff series, I would say Phoenix. I would agree with him. I agree, too.

It's just funny that all the teams he named as the best players is the guys he got to call. That's why he said it. Yeah, these are going to be some tough matchups. For him. For him. Yeah, I just... No know but it's true, you know You know when you have three guys who's?

Besides I mean shit, but I don't even know if Booker's average 30 in the league yet But you have be a who average 30 you have Katie who's average 30 right scoring titles like I think Bill had a scoring title, right? He go he finished second so you got two guys that you know were that amazing at scoring and then Booker himself is an amazing score with you know with the 70 point so average career high 28 or 27.8 last season this year that's 27.5 so you know so you got no yeah you got three dudes who can just average 30 on one court I mean it's unheard of and you know we don't know what it looks like in the playoffs especially with

them three but you know for a seven round series you don't have to this is not like you got to one. You stop one. If you do a great job on book, you still have KD and Beal. You do a job on two of them, you still got the other one. Plus- And you got an offensive- I'm about to say- Rebounding machine.

And then you got 52% shooting from the three. Absolutely, leading the league in three points. So you have to- Sitting over in the corner like, hey. Double dummy. Yeah Double so, you know you and then and then you come off the bench with guys who can hit the shot So, you know one of those teeth like it's they can play mediocre back of all this basketball to still be a threat In the playoffs when they're all healthy

So sons are 15 and 9 this year when they're big three plays but five and oh when they all score at least 20 so Yeah, but that 15 to 9 is said So you can't look at that cuz this is inconsistent. Yeah game I'm more I'm more focused on the five and oh that when they all scored 20 so when they're all out there cooking Playing well shit and then again then they can throw I mean they have so much talent on there Like we've seen glimpses of ball ball and the playoffs they can just to mix some shit up They can throw them out there on the lineup and that kind of you can take Nurkic and put bowl bowl And you like how do you even guard that I'm about to say you had Nurkic to hey doesn't say you take me

That's what say you can say Nurkic just give you probably sag and say our bubble go out there and give me three minutes And that those three minutes can be just a game changer for them. You know what I mean? If you really want to do some shit, you can go out there,

bitch, and play zone, play Nerkids, Bobo, and KD together. God damn. When you're talking about the playoffs, you're trying to get through series.

Bro, those three back there with Bill and Devin Devin Booker at the top and then how do you guard it on on your side? Because Nurk is going to that muffin office of glass. Yep. Hey for damn sure. Yeah So when Katie is clicking like this are the sons of favorite out the West or should we chill out a little bit before? Drinking the cool look the favorite out the West or should we chill out a little bit before drinking the Kool-Aid but they're gonna be when you're talking about playoffs man playoffs is about it's about executing right you you have to execute right and everyone's gonna know everyone's weaknesses strengths the secondary the

third they're gonna know everything about you. So it's who can execute outside of that offense, and they have three guys who can. Right? And, you know, same thing with Jokic. What makes him outside of the offense, he can think. Right?

He ain't a robot to, like, oh, we need to go down there, you're going to pass to the big man, and then you're going to cut off, and he'll be like, well, I don't need you to cut off here you go back door you know he can he can create offense out of nothing and when you have players like that in the playoffs it just gives you a better chance of success and could they efficient yep right Kevin Durant is efficient Devin book coming that he

fishing score so therefore is's forced Bradley Beal to maximize the shots that he's getting. And Nikola is the same way. Like, he's not... He's very seldom missing ten shots in a game. You know what I'm saying? So it's the same thing, man. It becomes a half-court game. Them guys are so efficient. So now you got to play them honestly,

and now they got shooters all around, and it just makes for a long night Either way, but to the original question. Yeah, they the biggest threat Yo, then you have them favorite early in the year. You had them favorite though. Yeah, like finish. Uh-huh. Yeah So healthy, I mean, yeah I'm still gonna like this is when the time like as a basketball fan If it was up to us we will make everybody like we in if we can give you all pills right now to make everyone healthy Yeah, yeah, right. It's like I know I'm not the only one turning everybody healthy So now we can see everybody right now. Let's go playoff. Let's a lot of health everybody

Come get this pill come get this pill. Come get this pill, and let's see who can win. Like, that's awesome. For a basketball fan. Yeah, for sure. That'd be the greatest. You know, you want to see the best basketball. You want to see the best competition going in the playoffs. Everyone's healthy. We don't want to, oh, he's hurt now.

Y'all only won because this dude was out. You don't want that. I mean, we're grinding through this season. You want to get to that point where, all right, when it really matters and the games are on the line, win or go home, we can get some of that high-level action going in. But let's keep it moving. Bucs rookie Andre Jackson Jr. put in his bid for the dunk of the year

at the expense of Kings rookie Jalen Slauson. So. A little tough floater. Oh. Yeah. You had the same reaction as the King's bench. Did he? The late in the Bucks blowout, lost to the Kings Tuesday,

Jackson caught the putback on Slauson. He stood up. And even the Kings bench had to react. I mean, who is that kid? He used to be- My goodness. He didn't just have his head. Didn't he dunk on somebody else too? Chest was out there, like wow.

You're not Oh, yeah. That's a tougher song. As we said, the Kings bench, Kevin Herter particularly, stood up. De'Aaron Fox couldn't contain himself. After the game, Fox offered his thoughts on the play. Kevin's reaction was crazy. Kevin's reaction was crazy. I don't know if y'all saw, I hit him on the head. He's like, he's from was crazy. Kevin's reaction was crazy. He was, I don't know if y'all saw,

I hit him on the head. He's like, he's from upstate. I'm like, bro, I don't care. That's the first thing that, worldwide world posting, that's the first thing that people are going to see is how we react. And I was, he got him, for sure.

Sabonis, I wouldn't even kill. The option, like his hit dog come on man what was these boosies that what the strip shoes what did that on today not as sure what are they eating these days man come on man you use restrictions but yeah try to stress use brother Come on, man. You were using string shoes back then? Hell yeah, I tried string shoes, brother. You know?

They had the string shoes and then the push-ups. Remember the push-ups? No, we didn't have that yet. Now, we just had the real string shoes, not that eBay connectable shit. I had to buy the real ones that came shoe width, it came together. Not the ones just attachables.

But yeah, we used to walk around school with him in stuff. Yeah run in a run track practice So I believe we didn't inherit goddamn. I'm just a 46 You stick in Joe They did not perform as a Like I wanted them dumb ass shit's gonna work Get off the ground. How'd you think he was about to have that for you? Man.

Yeah, walking around, yeah, all day. Fucking tip toeing and shit. Sitting there doing little jumping jacks. Toe raises and shit. Toe, calf raises. But I remember you used to see people and I'm like, oh yeah, he's committed. Oh yeah, he committed, he's gonna get bounced. He's about to be bouncy soon.

Did not work out as such. No. I jump any day of the week. I mean, that's crazy, though. I mean, were you doing anything? It's natural. Just straight? Natural.

Like, what age were you dunking at? Dunking what? The big, the 10-foot? Yeah. The first time I dunked I was like middle school okay but the volleyball yeah you start like you start off with shit that you start off tennis ball right then you move to the volleyball you squeeze it then you can say you can get the ball you can palm

right it's a volleyball for a while right yeah volleyball for a while and then you start really... Had a little different experience. But Gil, how about yourself? 10th grade. I mean, I dunked like that at the end of ninth grade, but the rim was a little bent, right? So my official dunk was 10th grade.

Where was that ninth grade dunk at? Birmingham. Outside courts. Outside courts. I don't know if you remember the rim at Cal State Dominguez on the first court It was all you know, I ain't get now. It was always a little Come down to get you some brain was the first time ninth grade. Nice great. Yeah, yeah, Ocean View High School in Orange County

You remember yeah point au Or SCA was it real dumb? Yeah, like a real one. Yeah, like in game. No like real in game came down boom. I Was hyped to know my own I guess I'm real power layup Yeah Power layup See like Me enjoy our so I don't know how it was. I had like when I was when we first started playing at 10 There was lowering the goal to 8 foot. Yeah, right

So we practice I'm done yeah, just a man we could dump man we playing 10 11 like we dunking that thing so We learn the goal in the gym and even doing games though. we got the crank. We're on the ball for the ball. We're lowering that bitch, man. So by the time I got to dunking it, like on the real thing. You already knew how to dunk. I knew how to dunk. So that's why people are like, he dunking that bitch for real. I've been dunking for a long time, man. Like throwing that thing.

So now we got to playing on the big hoop. And I started, you know, I just kept, of course, I just kept fucking growing. Like, I was 6'4". I was, by the time I got to my freshman year, I was like 6'4". I was 6'6", my sophomore year. So I grew like two inches every year. So by the time I was junior high school, it was. My shit crazy.

I was going between the legs. 10th grade. Serious? 10th, 11th grade. I was going between the legs, yeah. I never got that. I'm not even going to lie. I was doing between the 10th grade serious 10th 11th grade I was going between legs yeah I never got that I'm not even gonna lie I was doing between the legs windmills I was windmill was my best dunk over this one like that yeah I can do that either this one I can do the rock I got that from Stanley Fletcher okay that dude named Stanley Fletcher slam ball legend but my one is I go up

like this and then I switch it. Oh That was it. Those my best dunks That's it. This one. Oh Then give you the raggedy ass windmill We're like a real windmill or that half My arms long so I had to get it but it was it was all arm angle. I wasn't it wasn't too good Oh, you're a green windmill or is it? So I had to get it, but it was it was all our man. I wasn't it wasn't too The gel green with me

You want like a tooth to like I'm one leg yeah, oh no, but for the windmill had to come left side Yeah, run too fast to be to play basketball Thought about trying to do a one-legged windmill, I had to come left side. Yeah. Run too fast to be a two-legged. You play basketball too fast. I never even thought about trying to do a one-legged windmill. I wasn't even. That shit probably would have been. Because most of the people who did windmill were two-foot, so I got to try to look with, okay, all right, come left. Your one would have been stupid, though, coming down off the, because you jumped so fast.

That shit would have been crazy. I mean, that concept was. Anthony L was windmill to me or me this one in NBA right now Was it that two-foot lean because he gets to hit two foot like here and Jalen green got like well who Jalen got? Yeah, we all agree they get because they could they two foot jumpers off net like naturally so that shit is the hardest dunk was always that When the right-handed guy is going to his left and then that power You get this city back to that Steve Francis joint on you

You get that step. Yes, he didn't have big hands need disorder the ball just sitting in his hand But you got that Vince Carter where he can palm that bitch and hey yeah like nope should've won on Zo in Miami the ball going out of bounds he saved that bitch behind the back yeah man you ain't got a chance yeah that bitch back here I just want to those type of boosts you just want I just wanted for one day at a pickup game Just give me just one day Just the shit. You just want a trial

Just to know how it feels were you was doing it? just KJ got to do last year UCLA. they said he was up there beating everything up. Like, dude up there blocking everything. Like, just beating shit up left and right, left and right. Man, they threw that motherfucker. People was like, oh, he finna get this. Yo, the fucking gym got quiet, nigga.

You know, KJ threw this thing. I was, you know what I mean? I'm in that motherfucker. Oh, shit. You know, I ain't going to be quiet or some shit like that. Oh shit You know angle be quiet So you all find yourself on the wrong side of a highlight do your career It's only natural for high-level basketball player But how much more embarrassing is being on the wrong side of a highlight when you see your own teammates clowning? I Mean listen if it's a good highlight, you're getting clowned no matter what right

that's just that's just part of it you know might not do it right then you gonna get it yeah you're gonna get it yeah because it's the film it's the film session that's why yeah the coach always stopping it and like rewinding this stop and then rewind it. So it's like Yeah, you get the best shit that reaction on the bench. You can't help that Hey, that's it. That's me Made or not like you can it just never It be that most of the time you catch oh shit Yeah, it's hop, right? Yeah, your team, they got hopped up, though. Yeah, the hop up, though.

You got to catch yourself. When you forget what team you on. You're just watching the game now. You ain't really... Especially the team. I had asshole teammates. I often ask you about it, Antonio Daniels. Oh, no, no, no.

We laughed at him. Oh, no. Especially Brendan. Because, you know, Brendan didn't like him like that. So anytime he got the back bit black Every time you get the talk like he's sitting Chuckie made that man touch earth with both hands Hey Make that yo Norman nigga fall. They could just kiss. Oh shit touch earth with both hands, dawg. Hey. Man, that, yo, normally nigger

fall, nigger just catch, oh shit! Man, that motherfucker, he tried to get up and motherfucker brought him back like, oh, yo, man. I remember, uh, I was just coming back from my knee, I was just coming back from my knee, right? And, uh, like, yeah, I'm back.

So we got, we got, uh, I'm back. So we got you guys, and then we got Philly. I think AI just got back to Philly. And Nick Young was like, damn, this is a bad time to come back. And I was like, why? He was like, yeah, you're going to go out there, and motherfucking Brandon Jennings is going to hit you with a crossover. And you're going to be like this. Hey, dog.

He said he's going to hit you ass with a crossover. That nigga going to give out. You're going to be like this. And I'm sitting there like, I don't even want to play. You can't just put that shit on me like that, baby. Yeah, you're going to go out there and your nigga will get mad on you. No, that shit was the first. That's when I walked up to you.

I was like, yeah, I'm about to bust your ass. Because he fucking with me the whole time. Like, I ain't even going to play defense like that. The day he jumped. My nigga. That nigga Nick is a fool, bro. Nick is a fool He had me so afraid of Brendan Gittis dog. I was like, yeah there. Hey dawg. I'm about to give it to your ass today

man Calvin Samson, oh so Let's talk a little bit SGA. Obviously you said your pick For MVP may have some stat padding allegations to address After the Thunder lost to the Pacersers Tuesday so we got the video game I want to get your your take on this 10-point game as you have the intentional foul with 14 seconds left yeah well Andrew Nebhart and that part here both free throws then SGA came back down yeah you got the easy layup for the 30 piece.

Yeah. Foul again? A lot of Luka fans. Foul again? Foul again? That would be my judgment. That would have been funny if he fouled again. Yeah, he was trying and shit.

And was doing an in-season tournament. Yeah. So people always say play into the final whistle, so I got to know any issue with SGA fouling in that situation to try and get another bucket. Nope. My. Keep playing to the end.

Yeah, play into zeros, right? To the end, yeah. That's what we always say. Like, so something like that, they scored, right? Nobody pushed that dude. Right? Nobody pushed that dude for scoring. Didn't waste time.

He come down there, scored. If this dude came down to score That's I said. It's all a part of it, right? It's like I Don't lie. I just don't like the idea that you got mad, but you had a possession before I got the ball What did you do with it? Did you shoot it at the at 23 seconds or did you shoot it at 10 like normal? Like don't shoot it and then expect me to hold it on my time You you have a chance to waste the clock, but y'all don't do it Y'all go out there. Y'all try to get your loose. You try to get you a little two points I'm gonna go and give me a little too much. I'm gonna fuck about the score at this point

If he's in the game We saw earlier this is stupid. It's it's a it's It's one of those things where it's always a starter from the other team that's in the game at the end, and then the question is, why the fuck are you in still? Right, if you care so much about the score, and what I'm supposed to be doing, is you go sit your ass down, you get subbed out,

so you don't get no more stats. As long as you's allowed to get stats, I should be allowed to get stats. Because we we guard each other i done held your goofy ass about five now these last two minutes didn't mean shit now you got 15 like nah homeboy you don't get the you don't get the safe face so you got 15 and i had 26 now i'm about to get 32 get that 30 piece. Get the 30 piece. I felt the same way about Luka.

You know, we showed that video earlier in the week. They were smacking the bulls. He was trying to keep that 30-point triple-double streak going. He was not happy with the ref. I see both sides. The man won his foul. He's trying to get that record going. Yeah, just play to the end.

Play to the end. You ain't got to worry about it, man. Play to the end. Can you have any issue with SGA filing that situation? Try to get an extra bucket? Played to the end. Played to the end. Just played to the end. You ain't got to worry about it, man. Played to the end. Whatever. Can you have any issue with SGA filing that situation where they try to get an extra bucket? No, he's paying attention to history. Most 30-point games in the season.

So yeah, it is what it is, man. He wasn't going to win at that point. Oh, whatever. But he was still competing. He was still in the game. No, he ain't. Because I look at it like this if you go through history right and look at someone like a will

and you look at like how many games he played 48 minutes and then you look at some of the scores and it was like they didn't sell that motherfucker out ever ever damn you're 37 he's still in that moment playing every minute yeah right that's history that they don't want to tell us about that's part of history right his 48 minutes every game the stats he gained after blowing the team out is part of history so when you're talking about well wilt did this cool all right Alright, let me go ahead and do it too. He was up 35 and he got 12 points, 8 rebounds after that and this.

Let me do the same thing. When did sportsmanlike come apart? Because obviously it wasn't back when the game first started. There was no sportsmanlike conduct then. That sportsmanship don't put it in the game now

The year will average 50 he averaged 48 point five minutes per game 48 point five He I'm o to 48 point five minutes a game played 80 late 80 games that season 1526 like five 40 field goal attempts per game. Now how many blowouts do they have?

Hold on, let me. Y'all got every answer. I'm not a mathematician by any stretch of imagination. Never claimed to be. How? Overtime. Just overtime game. So he must have had a lot of them. No, he just knew.

He's not. So he played every game got we played every game He played every game every minute of every game and then a game that went over you. That's what I'm saying. God damn Teams so Come out for a sip. No, no what shit I mean it was earning But that's what I'm saying You know war imagine how many games as well blowing teams out and they still didn't sub his ass out This is crazy and was turning us at that point at that point. They're still trying to collect the league

So it's like no no no we need you to do what you need to do So forty eight point five minutes a game, but was turning up so I serious stories He had a club in Harlem that he would go dip to he was playing the Philly go dip out to Harlem to his nightclub Party all night come back. That's a whole people that that's the only thing That's why I said when you talk about history you talk about stats you talk about accolades What are we really talking about like there's things that were done then that is possibly not We can't do now, right? We can't we just can't do it the game doesn't allow it So don't compare us to the stats then right you can't compare us to the stats then because it wasn't allowed then right

Or it's not allowed now You know things in 80s is not allowed now things in the 90s are things in the 2000s now You know we don't do now right you're not gonna play a guy 48 minutes every game you play Play one of these guys now play Embiid or Luka SGA 48 minutes for a season So do it fuck you think they stats gonna be? Fuck you think they stats gonna be you let them play 48 minutes

And don't matter what the score is you don't take them out Come on, bro. 50 do it for one day minutes and don't matter what the score is you don't take them out come on bro 50 do it for one day oh do it for one day you got 48 minutes bro we're not gonna sub you we don't care what the score is tell me I'm gonna be looking you talking about the glow it isn't looking balanced yes 50 or more 48 minutes Huge to put a look at what what did Luca have when he had 70? How many minutes did he play 44? 44 minutes

42 44 something like that They did that every night. Oh 45 minutes in that game. So three more minutes three more minutes, you could have possibly had 80? Yeah. You've already said you would let him cook in that instance. Yeah, that's a lot. I'm about entertainment. I'm about entertainment and stars, right? So if my star is tracking to do something special, I'm going to allow him to do it right because you can't you can't you

can't mimic history like when we're talking about like everything's clicking at the right time that only happens once or twice in the season so if you don't recognize it you're gonna miss it right you know so if my guy has you know he's done hit last eight nine ten shots in a row I'm not subbing them I want to see where it goes Joel should have started the fourth quarter yes his night yeah there was no way in pot a feast ball would let me nurse take me out of the game no like no the way he had to go in the third quarter there is no way and the hell he should have been on the bench started for cool damn whatever this rotation has

been I'm gonna let you know if I need If I need one and the way that game was going he could have played the whole fourth Bitch would have had 95 points Like like even even like a guy With assist records, right? You can see when I got like just from the passing side of it You can see when a guy like he he's clicking the passing side of it, you can see when a guy, like, he's clicking. Like, the pass he's making, like, the things he's seeing,

he's clicking like, no, we're not going to sell. He might fuck around and have 40 tonight. He might have 40 of them joints. He got to get Scott's golf record. Because his vision, his vision tonight is just clicking. You got to block a dude that's pinging on blocks. You got to be able to understand what he's doing and understand as a coach. But sometimes if a coach has never been in that situation where he's feeling it, he don't know what he's looking at.

Have you been in a situation like that where you were cooking and the coach took you out? Oh, no, no. You're going to hear my mouth. Sit there. Hey, students, what's up? Gil. Nah, dog. Nah, get Antoine or something, man.

See, that's like... Hey, B, he got you, dog. Yeah, but we're going to tell him, though. We got six points. See, that's the difference to the teams that I was on. I'm not going to allow you to do that. If he got it going,

Hey, nah, nah. Wait, who you going to get? Man, sit your ass down, dog. It used to be Chucky. Chucky used to do that. Yeah, but We're not That's how we were the real shit like no They can't guard him. So don't you be down there gardening? Yeah. Well, yeah from the end of the bench

Hey, man, they can't guard. Don't you guard him? So how cognizant were you guys go in those moment you check it no, checking stat sheets? No. No, you watch it. We watch the game. I understand, but you can keep track of a dude. You know a guy's playing well. Okay, so the difference is this. The players are watching the game. The coach is coaching the game. He's not watching, right?

He's micromanaging. So he's sitting there, you know sitting there stat sheet looking at this looking at the time looking at the ref looking at the what that coach gonna put it he ain't focusing on what is going on in real time he can't tell you like oh shit the guy done hit seven in a row because he's not he ain't been watching it like that right so he you hit seven in a row three shots he done subbed your ass out or he call a fucking different playing motherfucker be like no man no man we ain't

throw the ball over here and that'd be the thing when somebody be like yo LeBron James done done changed the play because he playing he done came in time. All right We're about to go to Know the fuck we're not

Ars over five right now, right? Cuz he doesn't because that's what his place says to do When he was in Cleveland the first time, motherfucker made a big deal about him not running the play. The dude was going to run. Like, we're not going to do this, man. Like, no. You draw some shit up.

You come out of the timeout. This motherfucker done made six threes. Nigga, you better draw two more threes up for him to come out this timeout. But that's what I'm saying. They don't. And that's why when you hear, you never hear players, when something like that happens and it's in the media, oh, this person done drew up and changed the play.

You've never heard a player be like, yeah, that's some bullshit. We just pretend we didn't see it. I got a better one for you. All three of us teammates. He got it going. Gil come down and motherfucking shoot one. Oh, yeah, you coming at me. Oh, I'm going to cuss you the fuck out.

And I might do one of these. Yeah. I'm going to cuss you the fuck out. Hey, what the fuck is wrong with you, man? You didn't... I was open. I don't give a fuck if you were open or not, nigga. This man done made 12 straight points.

He's getting the next two, three shots. I don't... He got to get the next one probably heat. Yeah Yes, he checked for show coming through the ball gonna find him the phone if I'm we're on the floor the ball gonna find I wish you would shoot that bitch I'm watching the game now dudes be doing that shit. I be living ain't nowhere near the game Dude, are you serious with that shit, man? And don't nobody

say nothing to it. I'm like, nah, come on, man. No. No. Fucking with the game, dog. That's real. So have y'all had situations where y'all have had to change a play? All the time. All the time. How does it go? This is my thing, and even

coaches today, even coaches today even coaches today And I I had the question Eddie Jordan And it was this We're in a pin so it's like the last three minutes the last three minutes that timeout they always subbed right That's when you sit your star player, right, the last three minutes. So he plays nine straight minutes, and then they'll sub you at that three-minute mark and then bring in the sixth man or whoever,

and then they'll bring you back in at the nine-minute mark of the second, right? And I had to ask Eddie, why you keep taking me out right here? And he was like, yeah, that's part. Because I was like, wait, hold on. We just got in the penalty, right? And I had to ask Eddie, why you keep taking me out right here? And he was like, yeah, that's part, because I was like, wait, hold on. We just got in the penalty, right? We just got in the penalty. You put Antonio Daniels in. Antonio Daniels used these three minutes to get in shape. I mean, to get

a feel for the game. And I was like, we're in the penalty. We had three minutes of penalty. We shot two free throws at that time. I said, I got hit for nine fucking minutes. Little cheap shots here. Take the ball, stop the clock, right? Shit like that.

Stop the fast break. No free throws. These three minutes is when I can take advantage of that. Now I can fake like I'm getting fouled. I can attack the basket because either once I get to the basket, either you got to foul me, try to block the shot, or let can attack the basket because either once I get to the basket, either you got to foul me, try to block the shot, or let me score the basket. Right now, I put a lot of pressure on

the big man back there because now his opportunities, he can't just foul. That's when Shaq can't just foul me and we take the ball out or I'm getting free throws for it. So I said, you take me out and now we don't get these opportunities. Lead me in. I said, take me out.

Take me out at the end of the first. And then sit me six minutes then. If it's six minutes that you go, I'd rather say put me back in at the six-minute mark then. I don't want to do three and nine. Fuck that. Because I'm getting hit for no reason. I'm getting hit for no reason. This is a time where I can get four, six free throws.

And once he changed that, that's when I started killing everybody at the free throw line. Because now I don't have to be very aggressive at the beginning of the game. Now I can pass the ball more to Antoine Jamison and Karan Butler. So now I'm willing to give them the ball knowing as soon as we get in the penalty, I'm the Tasmanian devil. I'm running around like my fucking chicken with his head cut off.

I'm just running in the motherfucker. Oh, King. Yeah. Pick me a full court. I'm just acting. Two free throws. Let's walk it all the way down. So now I can get the free throws versus the shot attempts. So now everybody gets to eat more

just because of this little strategy. Which is important, right? Keep your field goal percentage at a good space. No, but that's what I'm saying. I only took two shots, but I got nine points. I got seven free throws. Shit like that. I'm one for two with seven free I got nine points. I got seven free throws. Shit like that. I'm one for one. I'm one

for two with seven free throws. Nine points. Now I'm not fucking ball hogging out there now. I see you over here smiling. At what point did you feel comfortable changing plays when you were in the league? Probably when I got to

probably Detroit with Stan. Just having Andre Drummond down there there Greg Monroe You know, he used to always have it going a lot too. So definitely used to call out plays for Greg Monroe And we're decorating the issue with you and uh, no, I mean because once we made the trade from Josh you know the the ball started being in my hands more, and I was able to facilitate and was able to take control of the team. So we were on like a—we was on a 15-game winning streak almost, something like that. So, yeah.

You can tell that Josh don't shoot three, Josh comes down that ball. Yeah. Don't shoot it, Josh. But they left him open, so he had to. He had to shoot. He had to. So speaking of relationships with coaches, D'Angelo Russell has emerged as a viable third option for the Lakers.

They're trying to make a playoff push. But his relationship with the team, particularly head coach Darvin Hamm, is rocky at best. During a recent interview with ESPN's Dave McMenamin, D'Angelo talked about joining the team last season at the trade deadline and how he struggled to build a relationship with Coach Hamm because of Hamm's close relationship with Dennis Schroeder. He said the following, Schroeder's relationship with Darwin is the reason I couldn't have a relationship with Darwin. When I was struggling, I would have been able to come to Coach and say, bro, this is what we should do. Like, I can help you.

Instead, there was no dialogue. I just accepted it and we got swept and I'm here and he's not. I like our chances. As you may recall, the Lakers lost to the Nuggets in the minimum amount of games possible in the Western Conference Finals. D-Lo, I believe, ended up being benched for game four. So this offseason, there was a lot of talk about if D'Lo will return to the team or not. He came back on a two-year deal. Him and his team pushed, or D'Lo's team pushed for an option which the Lakers agreed to. They wanted to sign him long-term. The season had some similar issues with Ham. He got benched earlier in the season for a stretch of games. But since returning to the starting lineup on January 13th, Russell's averaged 23 points

on 48-46-85 shooting splits, along with six assists. During that span, the Lakers are 17-9 in games that D'Lo has played, and they're 11-3 when he scores at least 25 points. So when we look at this and this story dropping post-trade deadline, obviously it's coming from D'Lo and his team. Why do you feel like he's bringing this up now and is this exposing a deeper issue with the Lakers and Darvin Hamlin? I mean it makes sense, you know. It's the same thing with Russ. When Russ was having an issue, there was no dialogue. As players, the one thing you can't do is leave us in the dark and have us think for

ourselves in a sense of, if you don't give me the guidance of what you want from me, then I'm going to go out there and do it my, on how I see the game. And what ends up happening is if I see it a certain way and you're penalizing me for it, but not telling me what you want me to do, like if I think that I should go out there and get mismatches and go one-on-one

or mismatches and throw it to the post and you have something else, but you're not telling me, but you're telling him, and then he's benefiting from it, but I'm not, I might have an issue with it, right? The point of fucking coaching is

making sure everyone is on the same accord, right? If I got to sit there after a game and talk to you for fucking 30 minutes each, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to put everyone in a position to be successful because if everyone is being successful, then we have a better chance of winning, right? I need my six men being a six man.

I need a seven man acting like a seven. I need my shooters shooting. Rebounders rebounding. If you don't have everybody doing what they're capable of doing, then you have no chance of winning. And when you see the best teams, the winning teams,

everyone is doing what they do best. And I think sometimes coaches miss that point. Sometimes coaches um every coach every coach is not trying to win. I had a conversation with Louisville coach when we went out there for a visit. And he said one thing, and I said, I'm sold. He said, I want to win. Because I said, you know, daughter kind of sassy. He said one thing and I said, I'm sold. He said, I want to win.

Because I said, you know, daughter kind of sassy. He said, I want to win. Right? I want to win. Like, you can, whatever she says to me, whatever I say to her, I don't give a shit about none of that. I'm trying to win. If it's the best player and the best player is talking shit and saying this, I'm going to say my shit. And then it's like, you done?

Okay, get in the game. I'm not going to hold a grudge against a player to lose a game. I'm not trying to prove a point I'm not trying to prove a point here. I want to win the game I can prove a point later when it don't count in the game accounts So if a coach if a player says hey man, fuck you coach And he's seven for seven Cool get the fuck in there. Oh wait for eight nine for nine fucking team for team shit There's a thing that's called practice motherfucker I can I can run your ass and practice all day, but I'm not gonna jeopard because as long as I get offended

Not only am I fucking you as a player I'm fucking the team And I don't think coaches realize that. But then you're going to have a bunch of guys. Bob Huggins, come down and just say he had to sit you, and you were playing and you fucked up. Come down and tell you, you're the reason I got to play this motherfucker. Yeah, straight up. Yeah, it's your fault. Thank you that damn Right

But but everybody gonna feel comfortable doing it. Certain guys like the Travis Kelce and Andy Reid shit in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah, he could have benched it. Took the ass to the locker room. They don't win the Super Bowl, he do that. And he penalizes the team, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So certain guys, yeah, if you're number 53 on the roster, no. Yeah. You're starting tight end, first team, all that, certain guys. You got a little more leeway with certain things, right? Yeah. During that, like you said, in practice, no, we ain't got another fucking chance. During the game, we ain't going to penalize the team. Yeah.

Didn't Bill Belichick bench someone and they end up losing because of it? Who? The cornerback? Uh-huh. Man, like, like, like, you know, some just stuff like, like, oh, he late to the bus. I ain't starting him. The fuck? I'm not starting him because he late to the bus. I just make him do extra line drills in practice. There's a thing called practice. And I'm not going to jeopardize wins and losses. If this game is about wins and losses, I don't know.

You know, I just, you know, if Ham has a personal problem with somebody, do that shit in practice. Not in the game. The game is real time. This is treated like war. Like if you lose, you dead. You ain't coming back. Are you gonna jeopardize the dead?

No. So that's kinda like P. Curl with Marshawn Lynch. They didn't wanna give him the ball because they didn't wanna do media interviews and all that. He didn't give him the ball. Because they didn't want to do media interviews and all that. He didn't give him the ball because he didn't want to do media interviews? Something like right, like he wasn't talking to the media and stuff. He should have handed the ball off to Marshawn, tried to make Russell Wilson Super Bowl MVP.

Yeah, they tried to make him Super Bowl. Malcolm Butler said the nay-nay to that. But they were mad at him because he wasn't doing media. Like he wasn't, like... The fuck does the media guy do when you win in the Super Bowl? As I said, it's like I because if you Hey coach told me hey, we I want to win games. I ain't got none. I listen Personal we can do personal practice

Check out the person who said he was only I had a girl who just she said she was he said she was kind of crazy But she was good You know, sometimes you come out, cuss me the hell out, and I'm, hey, are you done? Come on so we can win. I'll see you in the locker room after. Just keeping this broader, how often do you feel like coaches' egos get in the way of team success?

Like, I know you spoke. Yeah, the dude at Sierra Canyon. Head coach at Sierra Canyon is a prime example. It ain't about, it's about you know, I know you spoke. Yeah, the fuck dude at Sierra Canyon. Like, head coach at Sierra Canyon is a prime example. Yeah. Like, it ain't about, it's about keeping this job, man. Your ego and all that. It ain't about them kids, man. Yeah.

Like, getting away all the time. Yeah. Of success, of guys' development. Like, kids, all of it, at every level, man. But, yeah, guys' egos, man, coaches, worst ones gone. A lot of egos, a lot of coaches. Some coaches think they're bigger than the players, right? Van Gundy.

Yeah, like this is, I mean. But it feels like a lot of times, at least from an outsider perspective, the media will always portray the coach as the authority figure, so when good things happen, it's because of the coaching the coaching but like you guys mentioned you might break off a play and that play ends up being successful and we see it on tv all the time oh great great strategy from the coach it's like it's just like any i mean it's just like anything it's all decision making when you're making a decision you're just trying to get the highest probability of it right so um i can call a play right this is this is the highest probability what I'm calling turn five right now if I have a guard and in the middle of turn

five his man did something he takes off right and then he goes in for a layup and then it gets blocked I'm not gonna be yelling at dog why you turn turn five right he's seen something at that moment in time that was probably better than and then it gets blocked, I'm not going to be yelling at, why are you in turn five? He's seen something at that moment in time that was probably better than turn five. He took advantage, and the defense just reacted faster. Because I know if he scores it, I'm going to be cheering like I did that shit. Yeah, good shit, son. Basketball is great.

It's not black and white. Black and white is the structure of it, just like lines on a court. It's not black and white black and white is the structure of it, right? Just like lines on the court, right? This is lies you play within these lines. I don't give a fuck what you do inside. It's like same thing with a play You know calling the plate. This is what I want because I see something but if you see something different going and do your job That's why I have you as my point on my center. Am I wasn't there? Yeah, well, yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah to do that Sarah came'll lose his shit when them kids do that. Like, I see it time and time again. Like, kid trying to go make a play, you sub the kid out. Like, still like that.

Yeah. What's tough? Because, you know, you tell me. I don't like all that. Like, dude, he do it all the time, bro. It's embarrassing the kid, right? It's embarrassing the kid in front of teammates in front of people in stands like well You know as soon as you make a mistake you looking over the bench. Yeah

That's the only reason I would never take a kid out on making a mistake Like if I say do something and then do it I'm not gonna sell them out right there Maybe like you know a couple plays later or something so he don't feel like that's the reason for because mistakes happen Miss shots happen right like you know like it's one reason for because mistakes happen miss shots happen, right? Like you know, like it's one of those things that says it did happens So I'm not gonna because once I started yanking you for little things You're scared to play back. Yeah, you micromanaging the game. You micromanaging every position

Yeah, like because you want to call the player? Let me see what the best matchup is a little I'm gonna call the same play Every time because this is No, let's coach the game brother like you not you yeah, let's timeouts. Yeah Out of bounds for half court. I've done that's when you coach other than that let the player We tell guys and I'll be robots. You know, I mean tell them don't be robots, but you want them to be But you wonder why you want to play exactly like I told you like you said God saw something different that could have Put us in a better Opportunity to score, but let's have everyone to kick a coach ass Now I'm gonna just be honest man. I've I've

personally been like Fortunate to have coaches that actually gave me ropes right, I mean, you know my style like so there's you know, I've I fortunate to have coaches that actually gave me ropes. Right? I mean, you know my style. Like, so there's, you know, I've never really had coaches that really penalized me for the shit I tried. You know, one, because if I challenge it, I challenge it with thought. Like, you know, my first year in Golden State,

when Brian Winters, when I tried to set a screen and a big jumped out and switched, and then everybody's telling, pass to the big, because he got a little on me. And I was like, I can take him off the dribble, and then from there, it's like, why? Because if I drive past him, which I am, because he's a big, there's nobody there

to block my shot. If I pass it to him, obviously they're going to double. We're going to swing it, swing it, swing it. That's a non-shooter in the corner. So what do we do? We doubled. We swung it, swung it. Everyone swings it around and we got the worst shooter in the corner. It's not like that's the best shooter. That's the worst

shooter. So that's a bad play. I can take him off the dribble and then I got the little guard trying to block me coming full speed. So it looks like a better shot than me. You sit there and think about it and like, oh, okay, that do make sense. So for the most part when I've always had coaches that had dialogue versus the coaches that just like, I don't want to hear shit you say pass to the big man. Yeah.

No. I had Ludo, so I've had was kind of you know blessed to have decent coaches Same just asking say My brain have you have no Make sure she seemed like a man of peace and reason and rationale Can't have you ever felt need yes another man? Oh No, I don't know his document on a one coat there's one dude man throughout my lifetime of playing basketball you

know the best thing about that one coach every player has the same problem with the same one coach so it's not the players it's the one coach you know so good well my existence of playing this game, I've never had an issue with... So, shifting back to this D-Lo situation, how much does a point guard need the full trust of their head coach and organization? How tough is it when they do not have that as a player?

So, we talking about him in particular or just overall? His situation, but just overall. Well, he's not the fucking point guard, so... He's a player. He's a player on the team. Throw that old school thing out the window. Yeah, he's a player on the team. He's not the point guard on the team.

He does handle some point guard responsibilities. I understand. Yeah, he guards the other... He guards other point guards. He's the point guard on defense. On Uno's side of the bar, now I know. But just even for D-Lo as a player on that squad coming in. Yeah.

To have the full trust of the head coach. He has the trust of the best player. The coach, you have the trust of the best player. So the actual. It's the best player. I need to trust. Me and the best player. Because Darvin has to be gone tomorrow,

and Bron still going to be there. Okay. Bron trusting. Bron needing to be aggressive. Bron need him averaging 22. Nigga, that's the trust that's neat. Like, just call it what it is. They can bring somebody else in.

Like Milwaukee on coach number three right now. Yeah. So I'm pretty sure they had to fucking,nis had to trust the fucking boot and holes. Adrian Griffin. Now you don't do motherfucking that check. That second check and change all the fucking time. You'd rather have Giannis than whoever is the current head coach. Won't want me on the floor with him.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. I would rather play. That's more important to us. Because I can be it can be in this happens all the player. Yeah, right. That's it. That's more important to us cuz I can be it can be and this happens all the time The coach can trust the point guard right to be on the court, but the best player don't like that motherfucker Right now because like yo a get him off. Oh, no

Mm-hmm Every time I'm trying to post up door go this way he on the other side get him to fuck all I don't Mean so your trust has to come with the best but whoever the best player is as long as he trusts you You playing so give you ever a vision like that where you were playing where a guy that you rock with but may wouldn't get As much love from the coach Yeah, you had it. Yes. That's a lot of players that you know Like sometimes like there's ever there's been players on a team where he ain't probably the best player on the team But somehow when y'all together

y'all the magic Right, you know what I mean? Like he ain't like just like he knows when I move he knows how to You know have him back and make the pass and this and it but he probably ain't a coach favorite or he's part of rotation But you know if it was up to you like yo this whole starting five would be a little different We move a lot better with this person in the game versus this person that happens all the time And unless you're in position to make those calls for the most part, you know Yeah, there's lineups. I'd be like this is not the right lineup for us ball. Not right now. No, but you don't have you can't say nothing Well, you don't want to put piss the other player off yeah, I mean

It's delicate. Yes, especially when it comes to TV. Yeah, you don't do that to your team They especially not public like you can go in and sell a lesson we but not not in real time No, the muffins. They don't like playing with you, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now it's that. I think the biggest thing in the league is just trusting yourself. Yeah.

Like, coach, like you said, that chair going to be a different coach almost, you know, any year. So just trust yourself more than anything in the league because that's all you got. So, like I mentioned, D-Lo signed a two-year deal with the Lakers. His offseason has a player option going into next season. There was a lot of debate, speculation about if he'd be moved at the trade deadline. He did not. So it seems like he has some leverage in his favor now moving forward.

So we see a different D-Lo now that he has that leverage. We haven't seen a different D-Lo. He's been great. Can you help us, Gil? He's been great. Can you help us, Gil? He's been great. What the fuck do we need? He's been great. He's been playing very well.

Can we get to this point? We've been on D-Lo for 30 minutes now. Right? He's been great. Let's go somewhere else. I'm glad you said it. Because I was damn sure thinking it. What's your fault? That's the third D-Lo topic. I'm glad you said it. Because I was damn sure thinking it. I'm sure, fellas.

Like, damn, that's the third D-Lo topic. Third tab on D-Lo. Are you saying, like, is this play good enough for the Lakers to get in the playoff? So here you go now. So you're going to go up or down on this. It's okay. We did a whole show talking about the Lakers. Now y'all going to sneak me in some way, huh?

Well, you know they're not going to be there until May. No, we. Yeah, you're the host, so therefore, like I said. You know they're not going to be there until May. So in some way, you're going to sneak the Lakers into this show, huh? Do we know how long it's going to last? All right, very well, maybe just be through the first few weeks of April. K-Mart, it's only going to be me, you, and...

April? We can't stop Hello Mandy knows gone man. He's good middle. We good Security we good you good Like y'all good like y'all get out the first round like like he's in April 14 Lay in game April 16 y'all done there after text a but, let's see deal on the first the first two series last year Now we know why he was uh, he didn't play very well in the last game because Dorian was on his ass Okay, so we still talk about now we're moving on okay, there we go they could be quiet come May

Gonna be me you and, and McKiss talking. Yeah, talking through middle of June. Yeah, we're going to be doing a show. That is for sure. We are contractually obligated. But let's take it back old school. Oh, and by the way, this show is brought to you by $100 Fantasy Woo Woo. Go ahead and download that.

Use promo code GIL. Get a $100 deposit match andwoo. Go ahead and download that. Use promo code GILD. Get a $100 deposit match and a free pickle if you act now. All right, let's talk about an old school beef that's still rearing its head. There's no love lost between Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan. So Thomas pulled up to the Draymond Green's podcast to offer his thoughts on the beef with MJ. Where is your relationship at today? And is that salvageable?

No. Not salvageable. This dude got on national television, international television, and called me an asshole. Somebody who's been really good to him. And until he apologizes on international television,

we ain't no conversation. You can't apologize and have a private dinner when you didn't embarrass me publicly. If you didn't mean it, say it publicly. Now, if you meant it, let it stand.

I'm good with that. You know, Isaiah Thomas, Now, if you meant it, let it stand. I'm good with that. You know Isaiah Thomas is old because the Wi-Fi is janky. I mean, his phone is still in the 80s. He's still on that dial-up. Stop, man. It looks just like all his highlights. All right. That dial-up, girl, you got to unplug it, plug it back in. Hey, that is fucking hilarious. All right. That dialogue, dude.

You got to unplug it, plug it back in. Hey, that is fucking hilarious. When we watch him, that's what he look like anyway. So I'm just saying he's authentic to the era. Makes the clip better. Makes it authentic. He got 80s level. Black with a bust your ass.

Who? Isaiah Thomas with a bust your ass, nigga. He's fucking 6'1", dog. With a bust your ass. He's 6'1", 180. With a bust your ass. 6'1", 180. With a bust your ass.

Not athletic. With a bust your ass. That's cool. That sounds cool, man. That Gary Payton said the same thing. I didn't say nothing about Gary Payton. I'm just saying, man. They ain't even the same player.

Watch out, little dog. That ain't the way Zeke played You got a garden you play point guard you play a point guard, right? Yeah Master you had longer had more jumping ability you had more athletic you had to guard more than shot the ball better Mid range was better post up was better. I saw was better No, I mean he would have had to do what that was 19 was better. He would have bust your ass. No, I mean, he would have had this little what? If he had this little 19 and 20, I would have had 40 on him. All that shit was the same.

It was a little bust your ass. Come on, man. I'm not. Can you let it be known? I had to quote the great Isaiah Thomas. Yeah. I've been right in the post. He about to hit you with another brother deal.

I'm going to tell you right now, just like every other point guard in there, Joe Dumars would have had a score. He was a scoring point guard. No, Joe Dumars would have had a score. Like you said, the point guards that you had to play in your area wasn't looking to score, right? That's that's that's your claim to fame, right? He's told opposite in that yeah, you're looking to score right then you say that's why them guys could he He wouldn't he wouldn't a garment he would have been at the shoot

He would it would have been Joe Dumars would have had to guard because I would have just sent the post on him But you had to guard him though. Yeah, it'd been good, but you'd have to guard him though, right? Yeah, so he would have but like I say would have pushed to guard me cuz I would have just sent the post on him But you had to guard him though. Yeah, it'd have been good, but you'd have to guard him though, right? Yeah, so you but like I say who to bust your ass me. I my words didn't change No, it's six one brah. Yeah, you you were next one. Oh, I mean whose shot was you blocking Gil? No better be exactly so Yeah, you ever I didn't see you play. I wasn't blocking no shots. I wasn't blocking no shots. Listen, you're acting like I didn't see you play or play against you, right? What was he going?

Isaiah would have bust your ass. Oh, he had that shit. He wasn't that thick. He bust your ass. Only... Gil. Like I said, Joe DuBars would have been guarding you on the one end, and you would have had to guard Zeke on the other end,

and he would have been waxing your ass. He would have had his little 1920. 1920? He would have had a little 1920. Little 19, little 20. Yo, are you sure? What? Zeke would have bust your ass, Gil. I'm just kidding. What? Come on, stop, man. He's 6'1", bro. The heart of a champion, Gil. that's cool. That's this is a sounds Another be reunited I'm a blogger somebody fucking shot nigga, please

Like you had the bar starts in the way nobody who knows it was a funny I used to say it all the time Well, I was I would have blocked that You lucky I was you lucky. I don't feel like jumping right now. I would to say that all the time. Boy, I would've blocked that. You lucky I was, you lucky you don't feel like jumping right now. I would've blocked that. Oh man. He smacking him? No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't.

Earl Boykin's gonna ride that gill and motherfucking stop him. I'm not getting in foul trouble, bruh. Earl Boykin's just a guard, you good? Earl? Yeah. Yeah. What? That's what he had to do,

he wanted to back him down. Hey, he went for the back him down Back down a little strong underneath you right? No, he's done Who's doubling or Earl was miss pressing like 350? Yeah, he was up there. Yeah, I didn't go lie. We didn't have it for Strong So do we have to chat are you cooking Zeke over a thousand votes right now? Strong as hell, but damn. He didn't have that far to go. Gil, we asked the chat, are you cooking Zeke over 1,000 votes right now?

Of course. They know what's up. Unless they're from Detroit. 97% said no. I'm just kidding. 55% said yes, 45% said no. I just wanted to see your reaction. The question's still going. Now, what was the Jordan question?

What were we talking about with Jordan? Jordan or something? Ladies and gentlemen, this is a show where it's free-flowing. That's why you know and love it. Yeah, so Zeke said, beef is eternal unless MJ goes on international television. Not national, mind you, international television and apologizes. So basically, in Paris this year, he'll be waiting to see if Mike can do it. national mind you international television and apologizes so basically in Paris this year he will be waiting to see if Mike could do it don't think it's

gonna happen so next time probably be international you said shit public yeah you want a public apology so I get it well that ain't happening I mean he has his right I mean you know I mean there's there's no point of taking sides on you know someone's beef you know that's theirs. I mean, you know what I mean? There's no point of taking sides on, you know, someone's beef. You know, that's theirs. Absolutely. Right? You know, what Zeke is saying is, you know, he's been consistent with it.

So most likely he's telling the truth on whatever has happened and, you know, what he believes and how he feel he's been jaded. And, you know, that's his truth. Yeah. Right? You know, so, you know, he feels that his truth yeah right you know so you know he feels that this is forever beef until MJ apologized for what he said I mean it's gotta be leaving a man off the 92 dream team Chuck Daly coach that's huge and my coaches coaching yeah and I'm not on the team that's that's a favorite apologize though and I'm a genius yeah no I got it a favorite. But MJ ain't apologizing, though. You know what I mean? Huh?

MJ ain't saying anything. Yeah, no, yeah, no. Get the fuck out of here. Add that to the rest of the motherfuckers I got beef with. Y'all have a little powwow. Why don't you go join the No Bulls, too? Yeah. Special guest, Isaiah Thomas.

At this point. Hey, Isaiah Thomas says something that I Want to know if it works this way, too He said he doesn't think Steph Curry should be considered Yeah, um a point guard a point guard because he doesn't lead the leading assists, right? He doesn't lead his team in his assists. Try to argue that Draymond initiates the offense.

Perfect. Anyone who believes that then, if we're going to go by that metrics, then LeBron James is the best point guard I've ever lived. Right? Because he's led his team in assists 20 years. Right? If that's what we're going to go by, he's led it in

20 years and that will put him we're gonna go by he let it in 20 years and That will put him as the best point guard I'd ever lived So I want him to answer does does he have LeBron LeBron James as an actual point guard then? Because he's led his team so we're just gonna go by what he says. It's good. Are you put him over magic? Well, no, he's at the his school would would he be over with Would LeBron, if they were both point guards, would he be over Magic Johnson? Yeah. Okay. So that would put him as the best point guard that ever lived.

So you're saying LeBron would be over Magic based on Zeke's criteria... Yes. ...of what's required to be a point guard. Yeah, because he's the best fucking basketball player all of a sudden. Obviously, he would have to be the best fucking point guard if that's the criteria.

Like, that's, like... I'm a big fan of the magic That's what I'm saying is like sometimes you know you got to look at you got to look at the whole scenario When you throw something out we get it and he said it he said it so I just want to know from his criteria Does that hmm? Which makes you some valid argument valid question? I mean it was just it just weird for me where a dude comes in as the second coming to Magic Johnson, right? He is Magic 2.0 with Jordan-like athleticism. Okay.

Oh, yeah, he can pass the ball. He do got some Jordan shit in him. He can pass the ball. Got some Jordan type shit in him. And then all of a sudden, he just all of a sudden is like out of Magic's category and straight to Jordan's category. Yeah, because they took the position off of it they just went to a basketball player yeah right nobody is arguing what not shouldn't be but nobody's really arguing if Michael Jordan is the best to shooting guard of all time mm-hmm just it's not a so the

court he's not a shooting guard anymore Right He's the best basketball player of all time. He's not his position don't matter Mm-hmm So that's what it fell off with LeBron like if they if that was the thing LeBron magic two-pointer it fell off Because he's in the conversation for best basketball player of all time. So his position the way his position took away position Or tried to shift them over to small for it but it don't even matter whatever you want to put him as so we heard what Zeke said he basically said that yeah Draymond initiates more the offense leaves the team and assists so

by his definition he would consider more of the point guard of the Warriors dynasty, but... And so did Joe Cam Noah. Was he the fucking... Chris Webber? Fucking was... Yeah. Pippen? Pippen? Obviously.

We interviewed Steph. He said it was between him and Magic. Cole? No, Steph didn't say it was between. He said he is the greatest point guard ever. I was dot, dot, dot. I was like, it was between him and Magic. is the greatest point guard ever. I was dot dot dot. Oh my. I said it was between him and Magic, but if he had to say he would have said the

other way. He had Zeke third. Uh huh. It's just a different, I mean, history has changed and it's like we're, we well, we're not forgetting, fuck that, choosing to. Most people didn't even look at history to see what history was. They just look at what they like and then they go from there. So most of these guys that's doing things, they're looking at footage for the first time, right? So when we say pure point guards

There was Oscar Robinson Where would he have fed in as a pure point? So there was a point in time where the a scoring guard that actually passed the ball did exist Way before Magic Johnson and all these guys came so you can't say this is pure when there was already before you came in the lead there was already a guy who established you couldn't do what he did so you can't dumb down this and say oh this is what a pure point guard is when he was way before you at that position,

averaging a triple-double, scoring, assist, rebound. And so in his terms, this was what a pure point guard was. So you have to look at how history went and say, well, because you have these type of guys in history that established order, at this point, Steph Steph Iverson whatever they're all considered in this category pistol Pete pistol Pete yeah this sort of see any on tiny archibald who's going to ball are you have to you know but

it's it's basketball then basketball I'm sorry basketball didn't start in the 80s y'all it didn't start in the 80s I don't give a fuck what y'all think because that's when your TV. That's when your TV allowed NBA That's not when it fucking started It was started 30 years before your team y'all got their fucking antenna that allowed you Basketball. Nintendo used to put on the TV. Like that. Moving that shit.

But that's what they think. Like, no. This shit started way before you guys. Before your vision of it. And, you know, so you have to look at the order of how the game was played from the beginning. What was the original rules? How was it? So you can really evaluate everyone.

So even though we used to say, well, a pure point guard is Magic Johnson. No, no, no, no, no. Magic Johnson was a small forward, right, who had passing ability. He had vision. He was like a Jokic, right? You can't say, oh, shit, you know,

center, passer, shit, you're just going to put him at the point guard because he's averaging tennis you can't do that right these guys are just they're gifted

at what they do Magic Johnson was gifted at passing the ball fast break but he was a small forward then it became

pass a small forward was a point forward then it was like shit he's the best passer in the league fuck it let's just call him

a point guard and now we're going to sit there and try to chase this and see who it is because that's the best pass on the league fuck it Let's just call him a point guard and now we're going Sit there and try to chase this and see who it is because that's why I said he kind of messed it up for everybody Because everybody's been chasing that What he did Yeah, so everyone anyone who played the point guard position PG you're all in the running and That's how it works. So what, we got to change our list again?

I always had Jordan. I mean, I always had LeBron. No, LeBron was always one for you. Yeah, he was always one for me. Yeah, LeBron was one for you. All right. So that means that- You know, I always did LeBron, and then I did Mike and Kobe.

And everyone was like, you can't put Mike and Kobe. And I'm like, wait, hold technically. Technically? There was a small forward in the triangle. There was technically the small forward in the triangle. And Lamar Odom was technically the shooting guard in that triangle offense. If we want to be technical. A little loophole. I tried to find you sir measure special teachers so let's move on to our next topic in

NCAA's amateur athlete models in danger of getting packed all the way up athletes are already allowed to make money through NIL and last week Dartmouth's men's basketball team voted to unionize, be classified as employees, which basically means they can negotiate salary and working conditions, including practice hours and travel. So NCAA is expected to appeal the decision, but if college athletes are allowed to unionize, that could forever change the college athletics landscape. So let's talk about Nick Saban. Back in January, Saban stepped down as Alabama's football coach after 17 seasons and six national championships.

This week, Savin was on Capitol Hill meeting with lawmakers as they attempt to highlight the need for congressional action related to college athlete legislation. And Savin had this to say. All the things that I believed in for all these years, 50 years of coaching, no longer exist in college athletics. So it's always about developing players. It was always about helping people be more successful in life. My wife even said to me, we'd have all the recruits over on Sunday with their parents for breakfast. And she would always meet with

the mothers and talk about how she was going to help and impact their sons and how they would be well taken care of. And she came to me, you know, like right before I retired and said, why are we doing this? And I said, what do you mean? She said, all they care about is how much you're going to pay them. They don't care about how you're going to develop them, which is all what we've always done. So why are we doing this? So shout out to Grace and Alan for being by Saban's side. No, I'm just kidding. So Saban went on to say, number one solution is if we could have some kind of revenue sharing proposition that did not make student athletes employees, that may be long term.

I don't want them to be employees, but I want them to share in the revenue. So in the 17th season in Alabama, Saban made more than $121 million in basic annual compensation. It doesn't include things like endorsement deals, business dealings, outside his coaching contract. So, Gil, you have a daughter that's headed to Louisville that will be a part of this game. When you just look at the state of college athletics, do you believe it's time for college athletes to be treated more like employees?

While going to school too? Basically making the argument that they essentially work for the school, they're representatives. So that means each player can get paid different prices? Similar to how... Because eventually, I mean, that's what's going to end up happening. If we all have a base salary, the star player is going to always want more because he does more. So now we're trying to have, what, fixed incomes? To be honest, this sounds like problems for motherfuckers that are taking it to the league.

I'm just going to be honest. If you're going to be one and done, I'm pretty sure this ain't your problem. Because whatever they're going to pay you, that motherfucking contract, that number one, first lottery pick, is going to overweight whatever you have to do in college. So, you know, this

sounds like really issues for... Yeah, there's four years. There's four years probably. There's people who are. There's four-year players, right? There's people who are going to be around who benefit from education, who the university benefits from, from their image and likeness. Right? This is who this is for.

More football players, I think, have to stay at least three right before they can go. Yeah, football players have to stay three. Girls basketball. Girls basketball. Women's basketball. This has nothing to do with this. Yeah, it has nothing. It's good for the people, man, who you're going. Just take Penn State football, Ohio State football, Michigan football, Florida football, right?

These Tennessee football, these places are putting 100,000 people in the seats, game in, game out. They sell their tickets, parking, merchandise, concession. They come to see these. So I think, yeah, it should be something, right? But then you run into the problem, but you got to share it across the landscape of all athletics. A lot of non-revenue generating sports. Yeah, a lot of non-revenue generating sports. Yeah, a lot of non-revenue. Also, it's not sport generation. So the problem with that, the whole way it's designed.

Everybody benefits from it. Yeah, you got football and basketball that basically front the bill for 20-something other sports. But then therefore, and that's why I think it's dope that the individual player, I think each player should get something, but I think the individual player should still be allowed to go out and get individual deals

and still make deals with companies within the city and nationally if that's available to them. Right? But treat them as employees. I don't...

It's sticky. Right? Get the unions and... It's going to open Pandora's box. Yeah... It's going to open Pandora's box. Yeah, it's going to open Pandora's box. Because to your point, you're not paying. If you're the star player, and obviously it's just a one-and-done situation from the college basketball side, but if you're the star player...

So if they said we want to be employees, now does the rules change on how you treat athletes or just a student? So now you're going to treat like an employee like employee you're gonna have to work these amount hours Yeah, right. So now, you know instead of having a to our practice. Well, you're an employee now motherfucker I want you for six hours, but that's what the union side come to you could be like now we only We're not okay. Has anybody factor in this? part of it What if they just say hey? Y'all have to pay for y'all schooling now since you want to be paid right you have to pay for your scholarship right the scholarship is

300 some thousand you know now you have to pay for it for you to now benefit for it what if that should cut the whole title nine side so essentially two on the salary side whatever you give to the now benefit for it. What if that shit... Title IX side, so essentially, too, on the salary side, whatever you give to the men, I think it has to match on the women's sports side as well. No, cool, what I'm saying is I get that part. Hypothetically, Gil, you go to Arizona,

they say, we're making you pay your tuition, you would just negotiate that into your contract. Yeah, so now I got to negotiate. Room and board covered and I want $600,000 a year for however long I'm here for or whatever. So now we're back to

the same fucking shit, right? Because whatever the contract is, they're going to milk it through whatever you got. Your room and board. I mean... I think it's dope, man. I had the opportunity to go to school and motherfuckin' make money. I think it's dope. That part is great. Now it's just... You know, and this is where we come to the sticky situation. Every sport is not bringing in bread.

It's not. But there are four of you in the big conferences. Yeah. That's why they succeed. And... And then I'll say, what do you even think about a guy like Saban, who is, maybe I want to say, cost $11, $12 million a year. Now I got to retire because the playing field is getting level, and these guys want their slice of the pie as well. Sounds like a loser. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.

I can't get the best guys every year anymore right well pay some pain no no no no no no yeah that's it I don't want to he got it though but that would they coming out his pocket as I said that's the thing about it right right whatever is gonna be it's not coming out of his pocket right so that's what you making your annual no matter what like you got the biggest program you know you got the biggest program right you have the best record you have the best winning it so you you can go out there in you have the most money so if the kids say how much I'm gonna get paid you can say basically what the fuck ever right because you have the winning program so why if a kid say, how much am I going to get paid? You can say basically whatever the fuck ever.

Because you have the winning program. So why would you back out if you're scared that you're not going to be able to pay? And now that fucks your record up. And your record being fucked up fucks up your legacy. Now you're like, before my legacy gets fucked up, I'll walk away. That's all it looked like to me. National championships every year, you got a chance. That booster money coming in out of that

bitch, man. That's what I'm saying. They flying private. They doing this. Charting everywhere. Locker room. You got the best deals, the best money every year for everything, bro. You can go out and get the number one quarterback in the land and get him an NIL deal for 300,000

More than that. I'm just saying but I'm saying you can you have the name But you now you have other schools with more bread deeper pocket more bread that could come in and be like Oh, you said 300 will give you six. Okay. Well, then you got all the okay. They said six we get yeah We got history here we'll get you a with you eight. Yeah. If you're trying to win and I get it. We got history here. We'll get you eight with a ring. Yeah. Eight with a ring.

Come to Alabama. Three years. But that's what I'm saying. So what makes you back out? What makes you back out? You don't want to compete. You don't want to compete. And then you only want to compete

when it's in your favor. And there's a lot of headaches that come with that though. But that back and forth. Ain't that what Jimbo said? Jimbo Fisher said, right? that what Jimbo said? Yeah. What Jimbo Fisher said, right? What Jimbo Fisher pretty much said, the coach that takes A&M,

I'm going to call him out about this shit. Like, no, don't get me salty now, motherfucker. Like, don't. Yeah, yeah. Because now, because one thing A&M got down that bitch. Is money. Woo! Listen, Jack.

And it's like, as long as you got the bazooka, you want to fight, right? Everybody got a bazooka now. Yeah, you know, I'm going to go here and retire you on my little record. You know, it ain't fair no more, y'all. I will say, too, saving in the 70s. No, I don't want to hit that shit. I'm going to take my whole ass to the crib. I'm still coaching. I don't want to hit that shit. I'm just saying, as a 70-year-old man, I don't want to do that. I'm going to take my own ass to the crib. I'm still coaching.

I don't want to hit that shit. He holding off on Rippy, though. Rippy, give me one more ring. But he's been complaining. Yeah. When he was coaching for the last few years. Yeah. He's had something to say for the last few years.

Yeah. That's a lot of coaches. And this is nothing new out of his mouth. No, he has a problem. He don't want these kids to get paid. Why? Just what it is. Because he don't have no leverage. You don't have leverage over a kid. Like, you don't have leverage has a problem. He don't want these kids to get paid. Why just what does he don't have no leverage?

I know you don't have the leverage over a kid like you don't have leverage over a kid Like so so is this why you a five-star right and you had? Alabama as an option and or What's the fuck small football's this is Georgia or Georgia, which at the time, right? Mm-hmm. Georgia ain't been winning, really, and you're out of Alabama. You're going to probably go to Alabama.

But Georgia's a state. Now Georgia can... But you've already had all this talent. Now five-star, now you give the other kids something to think about now, right? Mm-hmm.

Before Alabama was... You was going to one of these three schools talent now five-star now get another kid something to think about now right before alabama was you was going to one of these three schools if you was five star right that's why if you look at the national recruiting thing every year alabama 27 five stars michigan 17 five stars florida 14 five now you look at that shit they might got four or five stars. Everybody's shit is equal now. Yeah. But you can also dip whenever you feel like it. And that hurts too. Think of it like this. Think of it like the shoe game, right?

It's a shoe game. You can be popping. They don't have no interest in using you, but they don't want the competition to use you. They'd rather sign you and just shelf you. You know Nike do that shit all the time. They assign a whole bunch of players that they're not going to use, but they don't want the other side to use it.

They ain't going to put you in no commercials. They ain't going to give you no shoe deals. They ain't going to do none of that. But they don't want... Yeah, so do... Go look at... Yeah, they do a like go look at like Yeah, they do a good job recruiting yeah, okay, that's one but at each position each year, right? Mm-hmm They got three starting NFL quarterbacks, right?

So you just sign a dude like so now you don't get any chance of kids to go nowhere else, right? Yup, I'm just bagging it. So you're just bagging each year, right? You got a five star quarterback coming in, five star, five star, that has no chance of playing because this guy is great. Mm-hmm. Unless he get hurt. Yup, and that's it.

If he gets hurt, ooh, I got another five star. Fuck off. Right, you got Jalen Hurts and fucking Tua and that motherfucker and you don't know who. Mac Jones. Yup. Three. So if one gets hurt, one gets hurt, you got the next one to come in. And you like don't know Matt Jones Yeah Three so one gets one get hurt. You got the next one to come in. So now you don't have that leverage anymore Cuz you don't think that third stringer. I'm out. I'm out. I don't need to stay here no more motherfucker. Fuck you

So these NIL deals is really changing the game right now. Yeah Spreading a talent out. Yeah, I say yeah Like you don't have to just be like memory Everybody want to go to Duke or yeah, yeah line over the UCLA now It's just like you can go in like the man in kid at Texas didn't take one step snap this year Not one snap in the University of Texas May like fucking four or five million dollars off the field off Didn't take one snap.

Then he can leave. Huh? He can leave. Yeah, if he wanted to. If he wanted to. I was, damn, I probably would've went to college

if it was paying. For one year? That's what I'm saying, this ain't NBA, this ain't an NBA issue. I mean, this ain't a basketball issue. No, you're right,

you're right. Because we still got, we got one and done. Yeah, so if you're good enough, you can be on your way. But just for the time being. Like, I don't see no NBA player making $3 million in college, and then he's a top five pick and say, no, I'm going to just stay here for these NILs.

Yeah, no, no. He'll probably get $3 million for one year, though. Huh? I mean. So, I'm saying if you're're making three million for a year in college with NIL deals and then you're a top five pick in the NBA draft

and they say, even if they say, yeah, we'll give you eight million next year, you're going to be like, nah. Yeah.

Wouldn't be, wouldn't be what contract as the number one pick was 55 million. Oh yeah. Fuck. Yeah, I don't think you,

shit, the ball, shit, back, LaMelo, LaMelo and LaM I don't see you. Shit, the ball. Shit, back, LaMelo, LaMelo and LaMelo Ball and Lonzo Ball, they were at $23 million. So that's how much money it is for just the first pick. So you're talking about top five. They're in a $30 million deal. So you're not going to sit and there's nothing in college that's going to give you this kind of money. So basketball is not going to sit there.

But how much is it impacting these kids too now? and let us apart and I didn't like in the kids It's unpacked and parent but the youth coming in That now, you know you fighting for that dream But did it create a hunger for you in college to get to the league so I can be able to get that level of bread First is not getting it now, but everybody ain't gonna make it though. Yeah Everybody gonna make it so therefore if you've got the opportunity to go somewhere, dude, and make money in college, however much it is, however much money you can get going, just say if you have admirations of playing professional basketball somewhere,

whether it's NBA, overseas, whatever it is, right? You can make money before you go make money? Yeah. Sign me up. Sign me up. It stops them from betting on games too. It stops that too. Right? They do. I'm not saying you got their brand. That stops a lot of shit from happening. No, think about the kid.

Where was the kid that played for Kansas State? That little guard. Who was dynamic. Norvell or Marquise? Oh, last year. Was it last year? The kid did a tournament. Yeah.

Like somebody like him would have made a killing if the NIL deal was in. Right? Most likely wouldn't have made it to the NBA. Right? And had an NBA career, but he could have did some damage in NIL deals last year. Those are the type of players that will benefit, right? They're going to be overseas players, but they were really great, great college players. And then local kids staying home, right?

Really, really good. And you're from a small town, city, whatever, and being able to stay home and benefit from your image and likeness because you stayed stay at home Imagine you from Milwaukee right? Yep, and you went and you market go you go to Marquette You eat right? Yes, they use you later. It's the kid that go to Cincinnati right now We went on the visit of the day's the kid that he ran sure this year making good money up because he stayed home Right then he played this year stayed home red shirt and he making decent money off the floor.

Let's talk about another issue in college and youth sports. The shady characters looking to capitalize off the backs of top players. It's been going on forever, right? But it feels like it's been heightened in the NIL era where athletes can now earn large sums of money. Leaves them open to much more exploitation. So, Brandon, in your opinion, how can we protect young athletes from the dark side of NIL and this new business explosion in youth and college sports?

Just youth sports in general? I mean, talking about our stories, talking about the things that we went through. I mean, when I was 15, 16, I had a lot going on. 17, I didn't, you know, I had a lot going on. 17, I didn't get money from this person, that person, that person. So it was a lot of just chaos early. And everybody's just handing anything to you because you have something that they want.

So I think with the NIL deals and all these people coming around, I think the youngest needs to learn how to just say no. You know, no is a powerful word because it'll let people know you're not fucking around. So I think that's just the biggest thing. And just for OGs like us being older, I think we should share our stories more about situations and things that we had to endure coming up.

But at the same time, they still going to be around. Yeah. I mean, I feel like it's just hard when you see these large sum of monies, not knowing what you signed. You've heard the... It's the parents, though, man. Like, to your question, it's the parents, right? Being more involved, not being thirsty,

not trying to live v character through the kid not jumping at the first opportunity somebody waves some money in front of the child because they can play right not exploiting the child right it starts there right and there and then there will be no room for the poachers and the people who you talk of like to have those opportunities if your parents not thirsty for it and you know they not put you in a situation why would well let me be a kid let me let my ability speak for itself so instead of or just you got the most money he won't lie he like us let's go

over he like let's go like that's like us, let's go. Like, that's so dear to him because it's a continuous cycle. And until that happens, like B said, they're going to always have been around. And they have been around. There's been some people who stood on principle

and said no. Like, those parents and got involved. Like, no, you stay away from my son. You stay away from my daughter. Like, that's what, we need more of that.

Right? Not letting, who you talking to over there, what they want? See you talking to somebody at the gym that you don't know and you just let it be. No, ask questions, who is that, what they want with you? Those are the things that's happening that people are not, not just sending your child to tournaments and, no, you can able to go fucking go somebody needs to be there paying attention if your child is that right I have a good have it needs to happen but paying more attention to being more diligent in that man I think go a long way yeah like them people like Tracy Mills like parents Like parents, like my mind, it's parents.

Right, it's the vultures gonna come because the parents are thirsty. This ain't no kid problem, right? A kid don't have no expense, right? For the most part, the kids ain't even got cars, right? Most of the money you give them is going to be on what? Food, Ubers to the little girlfriend house, some little shoes and clothes right here. So, you know, you're giving the kid $1,000 a month. That's an MBA. That's an MBA to them, right?

You know, anywhere from the ages of 15 to, you know, 18. $1,000 a month for them is amazing. Um, so when you're sitting there talking, you're talking to a parent, these voters is coming to the parent cause they know the parents is selling it. They selling their kids and they're going to keep selling their kids, right? If you're going to put a rule in these rules have to be set in. So the parents don't get money. These, these rules have to be set in so the parents don't get money. These rules or whatever this money that's coming in has to be put into accounts that doesn't unlock

until the kid turns 18, where he has full control. These kids are getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they're not touching no money. This is parents. Parents rolling around in new cars and doing this. You know what I mean? I don't even have sit-down. There's no sit-down you can have with me about my child.

If you're talking to my child about NIL deals, obviously you're going to the mother. Because there's nothing you can tell me. I don't want to hear shit you got going on. My son don't need shit. I'm his parent. I'll give him whatever he needs. Oh, I can get him. I don't give a fuck what you can get him. He ain't

interested. I've asked myself, how much money you need? To do what exactly? Fuck, you don't know nothing. That's real. We need to do this car deal. we need to get him a shoe deal yeah shut the fuck up talking to my son right with all that goofy talk my son wants to be in the nba and all these little deals you're trying to do is just distracting him from getting to where he wants to he told me he

want to be an nba player that's it he didn't tell me he want to be motherfucker car design or motherfucker shoe design or motherfucker monkey over here on the step No, that's that mother talk You're talking this fucking the mother and fucking grandparent that ain't what my son my son want to be NBA player. Mm-hmm You said he we start this race right here. We gonna finish over there every time He got a stop and do this and do that, that means there's other kids that's just on his road. You're not going to have a comment,

I don't want to hear about, we can get your son to this school. Hey, man, fuck off talking to me, man. All right, you ain't rebounding for him. That's the goal. Trying to be a top five pick in the NBA. I don't give a fuck about none of the other shit y'all talking about Like I've been there done that dealt with the hundred of you motherfuckers on my journey and since my journey

So I'm the last person that's gonna sit there and have a conversation with you So it's the parent Because at a certain age you can't talk to the, so you can't talk to my tahini 18 yet. You want to have a conversation with him? When he turns 18, you can sit down and talk to him. Other than that, you have to talk to me and I don't even want to talk to you.

Yeah. I hate every parent that tries to pimp their kids. I hate them. If you're living off your kid, you're weak. You're weak? Weak-ass parents, man. You're a weak-ass person, a human.

Like you really sitting there, sitting there, like you know, pimping your kid out for some bread. And you know, I think that's just weak as fuck. Like, that's a real weak-ass mentality. Well, but don't think it's been around and it's not going anywhere. Oh no. It's worse now. I'm gonna say it, it's not going anywhere. It's worse now. I'm going to say it. It's got to be worse now.

It's got to be worse now. That's what I was kind of talking to y'all earlier about, just in terms of still having the love of the game, right? And like you're saying, obviously you're in a different position. You made a lot of money playing basketball, so you put your kids in a position where they don't need to worry about this stuff. A lot of families don't come from those, that type of situation, so now

they see a deal come their way. Like, I'm reading the NIL deals and kids signing, like, their life rights away and their pro contracts. But that's what I'm saying. It's the parent signing. And some of these kids, man, that's what I'm saying. There has to be order. These kids are... You got to treat these kids like you treat the child actor. They have to have outside entities that's protecting their interest away from their parents.

You can't just... These parents can't milk their actor kids anymore. They got Kruger accounts. Whatever deal that happens, they lawyers, they go straight to an account that these fucking parents can't touch. Other than that, right, these parents will sign over anything. I mean, Luca's having a problem. Luca, I remember there was a deal with Luca where his mother had him sign over his rights to him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, these life rights deals, like, I mean. Life rights, yeah,. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. These life rights deals.

Life rights, yeah. I'm your marketing, and I get 50% of everything you do. A child don't know what the fuck that means. Bro, mine tried to do that. They're going to sign it. Oh, okay, mom. Okay, dad. I tried to get 50% of my everything,

and Sonny Vaccaro said, fuck no. Sonny Vaccaro said, fuck no. Sonny Vicaro said, fuck no. Like, I was 18. I didn't know. Like, you know, but Sonny said, no. They're trying to get a percentage of everything. None of that, all of that should be just taken out of the window. Right?

As soon as that child turns 18, hey, you know, I'm just going to be in marketing. You're going to sign me for 78% of everything you do a kid don't do what a's you you're the parent He's gonna believe everything that you got to offer him absolutely He's just signing over you don't mean and that that's the shit I don't like when they see that money my eyes light up. I mean that's the you know me is the easiest You know I'm just it's the easiest lick yeah Yeah, right. It's the easiest lick for a parent They're their kids or you know, they kids got 500,000 it it's the easy for like, oh shit. I just hit a lake Yeah, I can go get this beans I can pay for this house snow go ahead put a down payment on the house. Thank you, son

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, son And then you got the parents that stopped working, that just quit their job. It's like, yo, what you quitting your job for? Like, why you need a new house? We could just update this house a little bit. Renovation. That's it. Can't even afford it.

Like they say, the game is the game. So let's move on to our last segment of the day. Mosey Fans presented by Underdog Fantasy. Damn. Everybody be coming at you, huh? I know they do. Yeah. Well, your son going there, same fucking place

he going this year. Fuck you, man. You really got to be bold to ask you. Fuck your school. You don't fuck about your school or your program. Yeah, we're going to talk offline. I got a better option for you. You already know.

We're going to let him rock out. You know, we say what he did this year, but we can really. He's going to drop 45 next year in the championship, though. So our first question from underdog user kingshock82. Who do y'all think is the best producer between Timbaland, Pharrell, Dr. Dre, or Swiss Beats? Dre. Easy. Dre got a. Wait? Dre. Easy. Dre got a...

Wait, wait, okay. I don't know much about music like that. Producer and beat is the same? Yeah, producer's the one who makes the track. Yeah, producer's the track. Okay. So, like, yeah. I'm going to say Dre because he got the Black Grammy.

The Black Grammy where he got his own award at the Grammys. As a producer. That's tough. I don't know what a Black Grammy is, but that shit sound cool. It sound good. I'm going to go with Dre, too. I'm going to go with Dre because he lived down the street. He lived in the same neighborhood on this street. He did.

He did. He moved down. That's the reason why you got the fence. Yeah, recently. I got the security. Share the wall with them. I'm on the... Oh, you shared the wall? Outside the For wall with the moment. I'm on the I'm sure I'm fine there forbidden palace though But we could look over you said Timberland. Y'all rail Dre and Swiss Beach. Oh, yeah Timberlands up there, bro. I'm gonna stop I'm going Timbo you're going Timbo

Does have a lot of you know,, it's hard, it's hard. I guess it's, I mean, it's easy to say, but we don't know everything they do. Like... They're different genres. Yeah, like some beats you don't know that's theirs for the most part unless they open up their catalog. Well, they made it theirs.

I'm just saying. You know that sound. I like that one. All right, Puff. That's like both of ours. That nigga Puff. It's like both ours. Puff I hear ensue right to this day. For beats he took. I like that's like both of ours Like both cars, oh if I can sue right to this day for beats You like that way, but he got to pay that like five thousand. Oh, yeah

Five thousand like yeah, if I like for the rest of his like it's crazy, bro Who the single sting Wow every step you take that? Sample that man shit without asking him. Uh-huh five grand a day every day five grand He has the man five grand a day every day, right? Yeah, some shit like some damn though cuz he sampled his man. He sued him. It's thing coming to us about $75 So every day he wake up five grand. It was this to him So he just writes a check at the end of the I mean that's all big it made him a lot of money He got it. Yeah

We'll see All right, let's move on but he got a few of them though He got it. We'll see. All right, let's move on. But he got a few of them, though. Dang, so he's got more than one of them. There's a few of them. So he being like $150,000, $155,000 a month? Let's take the sample if you want. Yeah.

That's a baby mama for you. That's a bad divorce. And Puffy thought process is better to ask for forgiveness than permission $150,000 a month is Elevator me much that song make that song still yeah that for the rest of your life, too This is great. And when your children when you die, you'll see you who That's what oh, yeah, I'm going to Timber. That's a lot of bread

Let's move on to our second question Some underdog user po hats. Oh, yeah, I got to read these names good Somebody's gonna set me up is gonna happen at some point in the history of gills arena presented by underdog. So what is my name? rapper producer Will he be in there? Yes yes you could you can write a man okay I just want you can do the mail in no just one I was just wondering I mean I know they didn't put him in there but is he you know this is your show no no no I'm just saying I'm just tell you it's your show whatever he got to put that in there I mean that's his question I'm I I just wondering okay

I saw our next question for under underdog user pohats. What's the most difficult conversation y'all had to have with a teammate? Yeah. I don't think it was particularly difficult. Yeah. Damn. Teammate? Just the one.

Hmm? The typical one. Yeah, damn teammate This doing Hey the typical one You mess with her dog Like this that's what a difficult conversation you have with your teammate That yeah, that's the one that don't get no difficult than that. He taking somebody serious who he shouldn't be taking serious. What's up there? Yeah, you up.

It's in the layup line. She the layup. Mm-hmm. Here you go. Hey. Hey Hey me my ex me my fiancee job, oh I mean No, I knew you mother Okay, nice to meet you I even remember your name No, I had a I had a I had to tell her

had to tell a teammate that his uh, when we went out of town his Wife was stripping for other athletes. Mm-hmm Wife yeah, yeah wife. Yeah Yes, she got caught she got called game. I hear she got caught by one of a friend and Mm-hmm. He was delivering he was delivering something to a football player And then his wife was in there Say what's your mama gave? And I had to be the one to tell him Boy, you have to be the one that was the team captain. I guess I don't know. I'm the only one who was

Yeah See, man, I'm gonna tell you that's that's one of those hard things like it was the last time I told someone to do something because this is what happened. And this is why you don't, as a friend, if you really are a friend to someone, do not tell them something that makes them have to change their thought process. Because what ends up happening is eventually they look at you different. Because if they're not willing to change, you're the only one that knows that secret. And then they got to shift away from you.

Right? So I had to tell this person that, hey, man, you know, I, you know, yeah, I think this is happening. I don't believe it, though. Right? Even though I see the video. Right? I don't believe it, though. And the very next day, listen, I've never seen this person on the road, ever.

Never in my life. When we got to the hotel, never, ever seen him. After I told him, oh, we seen this motherfucker every time. Coming in the hotel with three, four of them. Shopping bags, because he needed to let us know that, you know, he popping. And I just felt bad, like, God, we never even seen you in this light before. Now you're out here trying to prove to us that, you know. Should have been like that.

Like, you pimping. You got a lot of girls. And, you know what I mean? Before you was a secret dude. Now you loud. And I just felt bad, like, damn, I shouldn't have. Damn, yeah, because now he acting out of character. Now he acting out of character. Now he acting out of character.

Now his game has changed, you know what I mean? I just felt bad. He talking too much now. Yeah, I just felt bad. It's like, bro. He got to say a whole bunch of shit now. Yeah, you know, man, you know the two holes I had last night? Like, come on, dog.

Yeah, like, nobody want to hear that. Because, you know, when he's not talking, you know, you got dudes like. You know what I mean? Like, go to strip club I got about a 200,000 in the walls. I want to know and you start throwing shots and then just Yeah, yeah, unfortunately brain was the most difficult conversation None I don't have like you know Definitely not with the girls cuz I wasn't on teams like that. Like it was usually me bringing them in.

So, but I don't have that. Like I think, you know, no girls. So no one ever told you anything? Nah. Nah. Because I was wild. I was wild when I was playing. So it didn't matter. If you was hitting it, all right, that's cool. I mean, you know, I got three, four months. When I was playing trying to the game

That was my city's hard Those are just I wanted you to about to take serious like you weren't taking nobody serious in it But if you was gonna take somebody serious somebody should but do you want to decide a young fellas or just or you pull somebody? Hey, I found I don't think that's the move you want to make. Okay a question is that right? Yeah. Yeah I do but do you want to hear it do you care i think when you young you don't care like like you young you don't care like because it's like bro like 23 like i was 23 24 like 20 like i don't care like i ain't gonna see her again like no no no what i'm saying is as as a as a player right if you wouldn't this if you and this this girl is vibing on the

level do you really care what someone else is telling you about it like you know before you she used to have six seven of us going at the same time well wait wait whoa whoa no sick wait at the same time I'm just saying yeah no no I hear if I hear the girl that I'm with got a train ran on her, come on. What the fuck? It doesn't change how she's treating you, though. It don't matter. I just know who you are.

But if she's making you happy, does it change it? Yes, she can make me happy. So you can have a girl who's never had no nothing. She never dealt with anybody, but she treats you like shit She treat you like shit you ain't happy with her but she ain't got no bodies You ain't happy though, right? I'm out. You out too. Yeah But like I don't know I'm just you too I'm just I'm just Tracing I'm out, but she's like she's all team. She's all team you don't know she is I just I'm just out. The tranchant, I'm out. But she's all team Udo now.

I'm sure she is. She all team Udo. I'm sure she is with me. You don't have to go like this. Choo choo! Come on, that's the sign. Y'all didn't have that sign? Is it Amtrak? Is it MetroLink?

What do we call it? When we got one in the club and everybody was like, yo, Is it Amtrak is a metro link? What do we like? When we got one in the club and everybody yo Nigga drop everything Kamar's a man of God He got the type of teammates that's the... Oh, yeah. Hey. He black.

Woo! So I can honestly say... Hey, Shorty, I'll kick you later. But I can honestly say, like, I strayed away from those situations. Like, I never wanted my name to be involved. Bible study. Those. But you're absolutely right, though.

Yes. Team, yeah. Absolutely. And on right though. Yes team. Yeah, absolutely Got one I don't know. Hey fellas when you got one just to decide you got me That's the sign now Another glorious day on gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We will see y'all tomorrow.