Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Discuss Kawhi's Hot Streak & NBA Mental Health
Episode Date: February 6, 2024Gil's Arena Breaks Down Kawhi Leonard's Hot Streak as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew analyze Kawhi's 6 consecutive games with 25 points or more and debate how far he can carry the Los Angeles... Clippers this season. They also open up about how off court issues can leak into on court performance and discuss the impact these distractions have on the ongoing struggles for Damian Lillard & Klay Thompson. Finally they play a game of For Real of Fugazi with Donovan Mitchell and the 2nd place Cleveland Cavaliers before debating if Juju Watkins can be the greatest women's basketball player ever. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:58 Gil Has No Home Improvement Skills! 0:10:42 The Easiest Bag Gil's Arena Ever Received 0:14:28 Worst Slump in NBA History 0:20:46 Hooper Loses Wig Mid-Game 0:28:51 Scottie Barnes & Trae Young Named All Stars 0:35:54 Lexie's Comments on MPJ's WNBA Take 0:44:27 Juju Watkins Will Be The Greatest WNBA Player Ever 1:04:06 Lexie Brown's BREAKING NEWS 1:16:32 Are the Cavs For Real or Fugazi? 1:19:09 500k or A Coin Flip for 5 Million? 1:28:57 Should Teams Fear the Clippers? 1:40:06 Dame's Struggle Is Real!! 1:57:18 Klay's Mental Struggles This Season 2:13:35 MostlyFans 2:30:10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's today, Tuesday?
Taco Tuesday.
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We got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us what to do. We got Lexi Brown back on the couch
Big things happening we will talk about later in the show. Mm-hmm. You don't want to give away too much
too soon
And we got Rashad McCann's here with us, representing for the Bay.
Absolutely.
In the workshop jacket, shirt.
Worker's compensation.
Go ahead.
Worker's compensation.
The gift store.
Worker's compensation.
What's wrong with you?
Comes with the package deal.
You got to coordinate.
This is coordination at its finest.
Do you think of these shirts
and then make them immediately
or do you make them
all at once?
It depends.
You know you'd have to
go get them.
What type of work
on wheels, yeah?
I'm like, yeah,
this is...
You just be laying there
and you're like,
I got it now.
Yeah, I need some insurance.
I need some insurance today.
I'm working too hard.
It's all work motivated.
Work conversation.
Sometimes I need
work ethic. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I need some motivation. You know what I'm working too hard. It's all work motivated. Sometimes I need work ethic.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes I need some motivation.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes I got just too much workload.
It's too much.
It's the workload.
You know what I'm saying?
Sometimes I need a work release, man.
It's just a lot.
There is a lot,
and we going to cover all the bases.
That's clever.
I like it.
Work release program.
Release program.
Oh, boy.
Please.
Enough. It's another beautiful day in the program. Oh, boy. Please. Enough.
It's another beautiful day in the arena.
I'm going to be sweating by the end of this.
Like, I already know.
Shit.
It is Black History Month, ladies and gentlemen.
We appreciate y'all pulling up to the show with us.
Here's what's cracking in the arena today.
Freak time hasn't quite lived up to expectations just yet,
but Dame keeps it real on how off-court issues can impact on-court
performance. Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs are 14-1 in their last 15 games, but are they
for real or fugazi? Shout out to all the Cavs fans that have been hitting us up on social.
Literally.
Every day.
I'm like, damn.
Why y'all talking about the Cavs?
I got the same shit I got.
We're all getting tagged in it.
I'm like, damn, we see you.
We see you.
You got your wish. We are talking some Cavs today.
And Klay Thompson has been struggling this season,
but is this his last dance with the Warriors?
We're going to show that post-game interview he did last night.
It was a little sad.
I ain't going to lie.
It was kind of a little sad, wasn't it?
Damn, Klay.
Very sad.
We still believe in you, Klay.
It was like cringe sad.
Like, ugh, don't do that.
Draymond in the back.
So you're going to be happy?
Anything for Gil.
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Please. We understand multi-tasking. It's raining. It's raining. We're pull the car over. Put it in parking. Please.
We understand multi-tasking.
It's raining.
It's raining.
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You're in L.A.
It's El Negro outside.
Like, just stay safe.
Please just pull the car over.
Oh, shit.
The house hasn't flooded this year.
Doesn't normally flood?
Yes.
Ooh.
Because, you know, like the leaves fall and then it clogs it up.
And then when it gets raining, then the water starts fighting its way.
Now I'm sitting there looking like a haunted mansion,
sitting there flooding.
Now, this y'all smart.
Right before it was like, hold on, let me get them gutters clean.
Smooth sailing.
Gil, did you clean the gutters or did somebody clean them for you?
I mean, if you know anything that, you know, if you know anything about Home Depot, they have this outside program.
Don't stop it.
It's like an outside program where some of their workers are not inside, they're outside.
You know, you pay them cash.
They support the community.
You're not doing this.
Okay, I just wanted to make sure. They support Gilbert, a man of the people, support the community not doing this Okay, that's just make sure they support you Gilbert a man of the people supporting the community housework
No, you don't a roof. Yeah, be a man roof. That's not manly man things. That's not manly changing tires
That's not man thing. That's mechanic shit house man shit
Mechanic shit mm-hmm house builders. You gotta get it right next
Hey to play
Is this what is this what you do?
Here you go support your local community. This is what you do. You you build shit. I don't even get an oil change
Are you just like me for real?
They said I need all of these things done.
No.
Send it.
Oh, that's how they get.
Oh, yeah.
I go by myself.
Can I have my oil changed?
They come back.
It's 17 other things.
Dad, here.
I got him.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Just your oil changed.
They try to get you. They be trying to upgrade you with no reason.
The upsell game is real.
Gil, what is the most difficult home improvement task that you've taken on?
I know you done built a light fixture or something.
You done fixed it.
Not anything that has to do with, like, putting something together.
Okay.
Right?
Like, let's say, like, a knob falls.
Like, one of my drawers is, like, it unhooks.
And every time, like, one of the kids pull it too hard and unhooks. I can't even I can't even put it together
I don't be honest. I don't take the time to even think on how to make it
I just sit it there and wait for the maze to come put this shit back together. I
Just put it to the side. I mean some of y'all I'm seen in just this random door just sitting to the side on the wall
That's the main job.
Click that shit back in.
I'm not going to frustrate myself trying to put it.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to frustrate the shit out of myself.
You don't put together like drawers or tables?
I didn't do workshopping in high school.
All the instructions from Ikea?
I can follow it, but just like anybody.
You start reading and you start but just pretending like yeah
I got I got it. You try to do this yourself
Not I'm not reading word for word get to the bottom, but it's called me McCann's the mechanic real. Oh, yeah
Yes, everything in my crib. I built up couch
Little I got the nice little, under the TV,
you call it the little TV stand.
Bar, the bar.
But it got the LED fireplace.
Yeah.
I put all that shit together.
Bed.
Everything.
The bed?
Yeah, whole bed.
Yeah, they give you.
Like the screws and shit?
Everything.
Hey, manly man.
I sit there for a couple hours and do that shit.
I love that shit.
Like you put the bed together.
The whole bed, nigga.
Everything around the bed.
They give you just two boxes.
You be like, this is the bed.
I put my bed together in college.
I don't even make my bed.
You don't even put a bed together?
I mean, before, you had to furnish my apartment, so I went to the store, got me a little bed
thing, and I put it together.
Oh, mm-hmm.
I respect it.
Yes.
Like, nah, I just get in my bed, I sleep right at the edge, so I can just fold it together. Oh, mm-hmm. I respect it. Yes. Ew. Like, no, I just get in my bed.
I sleep right at the edge so I can just fold it back.
Just boom.
Because if I sleep wild and I got to try to put it
all together again, hell no.
Well, I had a father.
I had a single father.
So I'm a little different.
I had a single father who had to be a man.
So he had to do man shit, which left me not doing. I so he had to cook and clean take out the trash
So I had another so I don't know how to do nothing supposed to be like
The gated community shit I had to figure out fire
Fire warm You built a fire. I had to figure out fire.
Fire warm.
Yes.
You date me.
We both looking at each other when the trash is full.
Who's going to take it out?
You ever been to a trash can?
Flies and shit coming out of it.
I'm supposed to lift it up and throw it in the air.
They're used to the flies. I mean, I'm pretty sure she didn't notice that y'all leave the food here when you come back in the morning
It's still there. I know y'all have noticed that so we've been eating leftovers
Know when she comes she don't have to take it out there throw it in the trash and bring the new
I'm pretty sure she's noticed by now
We not doing nothing
Three Tyler. Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to the trash can on this one
Maybe like little coyotes out there in the morning. Hey, I'll be the last thing you try to eat
Well, we embrace the roaches and the flies. They got cousins. What's up Edgar? What you doing over there?
He walking around and shit. Ladies and gentlemen, another day in the arena.
As you know, we talk basketball, we talk life, we talk a little bit of everything.
Let's get into it.
Playboy Cardi pulled up to Aiden Ross' stream, ignored him,
and literally danced around almost every question that he was asked
and allegedly left with a $2 million bag in six minutes,
a record in bag finessing.
A thousand people watching.
They're waiting here for two hours.
This is the camera right here, right here.
They're waiting for you for two hours, bro.
They just, they love you so much, bro.
And they're, you know, they feel amazing you're here now.
I love you.
It's amazing that he's here.
I love you. Chad, you guys got to understand, bro.
The stream, it's your first time doing the stream, isn't it?
Yeah.
I got you, bro.
I got you.
Yo, if you guys want to, actually, matter of fact, I got you, bro.
Uh-oh.
Throw it in the bag. I got you bro
I got some cash for you. Yeah, a little gift for me to you
You know, it's a good amount of money in here, you know, it's a lot about a money here I got you bro
Video yeah, I got you, bro. That's a young kid.
Don't know what he's doing. You do hugs?
Is that real?
Yeah.
Okay.
Very real.
No way.
Very real.
First of all, this is the second time I've seen that boy on the stream.
What a rapper.
He in finesse.
He in finesse.
He's in finesse by 21 Savage with the Mark Carr.
Who is that?
Aiden Ross.
Who is that?
Big in the streaming community, making millions and millions of dollars.
For what?
Streaming.
Just sitting in front of the camera.
Just streaming.
He doesn't play video games or nothing?
No.
Okay, so they have changed streaming, video game streaming, because they've gotten so
big where they've added celebrities to their live streams of playing video games and doing.
So they have evolved into something that's totally different So just being a regular video game streamer. You can't even compete with these dudes cuz you video game stream and I'm like, where's Drake?
I got 200 followers, bro. I just I just can't play the video game
I can sit my mom in here.
Yeah, he had Nikki.
He had Offset on there.
Yeah, but yeah.
So what he got going on?
He just gave away $2 million.
So reporters are here, only gave him half the bread,
and then was supposed to give him a private plane ticket.
Million dollars?
So he gave him a million dollars cash?
He gave him a million.
But in response to the backlash, they're supposed to be doing a part two
Right yeah, cuz he's a so he'll he can cancel playboy party
Give me a meal. You'll never see me again
I'll be trying to rob you and you go to sleep. Okay. I'm sorry, but are we gonna just be honest here?
How much is a play to book playboy cardi for a show honey came in honey cake maybe
What honey cake? Maybe a little more than that you okay 200 50 about this
500 we do I will do 500 just for shits and giggles
500,000 for him to do a two-hour show right and you telling me I'm going to pay him $2 million, or he's
going to come on my live stream with a mask on and not answer no questions, really, stop.
Let's just stop.
The money is the gimmick of it all, right?
I'm going to give you this bag of money.
I'm going to give you this bag of money.
It makes it seem like an amazing thing, right?
The money is the flashpoint. The money is the flashpoint.
The money is the...
You think people really believe that this money is just being handed over like that?
People believe it, yes.
So I was at the Grove with my friend, and one of the little TikTok people came up to us and was like,
with the mic, if you get this right,
we'll give you $10,000.
So me and Nikki, who was my friend that was with me,
was like, oh, yeah, I bet.
Ask us the question.
Tell us the answer before we start filming.
And it's fake.
The money is fake.
Prop money.
But he posted a video, 4 million views.
And people are like, oh, my God.
He monetized off that. Y'all still didn't get bread. I know, because then he was like, y my god He monetized all day y'all stealing it. I know because then he was like y'all wanna do another no, I don't
Nothing from this video, but they're making so much money
It's lying is crazy. What's the easiest bag finesse that you've ever pulled that?
Him oh, I'm talking about him
That's the biggest bag finess because he gets all the views
from it
because there's no way,
I don't know
how much money
you've tried to take
out of a bank.
There's no,
there's no way in hell
that he could have,
he could have went to the bank
and took out
two million dollars
that easy.
It takes like a few days though.
You have to order it.
Yeah, you got to order it.
You have to order it. You have to order it
They have to ship it to you that you have to go through so many questions of what are you doing with this money?
Were you because there's money laundering they want to make sure you're not money laundering right now
Hence the kicker
You giving it to him. What do you think happens to playboy cardi if he got a real two million dollars?
He get on the jet.
$2 million? Oh my God, IRS is on his ass. What you doing with this money? Where you going with
this money? Are you going to deport this money?
Because cash is the worst thing that you can do
to give someone it because Aiden Ross
can write it off as what?
An expense.
An expense, right? So it didn't cost him $2 million.
You give it to him, right?
He didn't get $2 million. He only got $1 million. million now if he don't claim that money IRS is gonna tax him anyway for
You donate that money a donation for him
Donated that from my foundation. Yeah to the Playboy Carti. I'm really homeless kid
Oh, honey, I've withdrawn from a bank is about $100 Gil now. No, but I'm just saying, like, this is just splash.
Even with the 21 Savage we didn't pay attention to, that's just, that's just, that's the clickbait of it all.
Oh, you got cheated.
Oh, really?
So I should save my take on it being some nigga shit.
Man.
Because I kind of like some nigga, like, we can't even really.
You could use that take later in the show, for sure.
Shit, man, just like some niggas
But him in 21 Savage Bowl y'all do some nigga shit, man. Let's get into some basketball
Nick's point guard Ryan Archie Diacono. I said it right
Y'all know you say it I didn't hear what he said. I just heard me Ryan Archie Diacono, Gil. I just heard Nix. Nix, all right, cool. I'm cool. I'm cool.
I heard Nix.
Give me some coffee.
Whatever.
Nix, whatever.
Gil, in the beef, all right?
Nix fans, fine people.
Shout out to Kim Merrill.
Shout out Spike Lee.
Shout out Ben Stiller.
In the beef, Gil.
We got to go to New York at some point.
I'm going to do that because Steve.
Oh.
We got some Nix fans in the building.
But Nix point guard Ryan Archie Diacono is making history for all the wrong reasons.
So, first player in NBA history to play 20 consecutive games without scoring a single point.
I love...
Put those three fingers down, Chief, and that's how much you scored.
He actually played, Dancer.
He plays?
How does someone find the stat?
Well, I'm surprised you didn't even throw extra stats in here
Yeah, why are you guys coming? I mean, no, I'm just saying cuz usually you would have added in, you know on a Wednesday with
a block
20 games without a free throw in 20 games, obviously, right if he ain't made a point
He ain't made a free throw either so you get to throw that in there with threes so eventually at some point with all the stats combined he's the
only player in history who would ever do this again man hall of famer hall of famer right if
you don't have no points if you don't have a re a block or something like no yeah he gets to be the
only person ever to ever do this if you add the rest of the stats. But you just separate those stats. You separate the first player.
No points.
No free throws.
Ladies and gentlemen. He does only average two minutes a game.
He played 45 minutes this season.
Again, I am merely a host.
I just convey the stats as they are presented to me.
I mean, yeah.
You could do something in two minutes.
You can.
You should get a bucket.
But he's getting in on the will sign trend like everybody else
No, no, no, what would be funny if he actually did it for sure if he actually did if he did it that makes it funnier
Now that's that would be legendary but shout out to our expert production team
So him I'm doing it
So probably didn't he was he was the most outstanding player
back in the NCAA tournament out of Villanova.
So, his former college and current Knicks teammate,
Josh Hart, took some time to recognize
the record.
In the history books.
Man.
Cold-blooded.
Like, they college team and the pros, like,
they just joke around all day.
All they do is play around.
So, Rashad, we'll start with you.
What's the worst slump you had in your career on or off the court?
Slump?
Slump.
These are difficult questions, man.
You don't slump?
I don't slump.
Ain't no slumping over here.
We get pumps in the gym, pumps in the bumps.
No off-the-court slumps? Mm-mm. I love my part. We get pumps in the gym pumps and the bumps though off the course loves
mmM. No, I mean recently recently recently just because of the
Just going back and forth with Gil man being out there in the public eyes
Why you fucking with Gilbert and you know the work started to leave me and I started to leave getting the work
I have a work slump. you know what I'm saying?
I'm lonely over there trying to get this hand shit don't work no more.
It's hard.
It's hard.
Blue Rhino.
Yeah, man.
OnlyFans ain't working, ain't responding back.
I know how tough it is out there for y'all.
It's tough.
Tough.
I get it.
So, Lexi, what's the worst slump you had in your career on or off the court?
I mean, probably my rookie season.
I didn't even play, so it wasn't a slump, but you just show up every game day,
and you just sit on the bench and clap and cheer,
and then you get thrown in randomly and get yelled at for not doing your job,
even though I haven't been on the court in five days.
But it wouldn't be a slump but
that was just a low point and my obviously your percentages reflect that so like i was shooting
like 20 from three and shit damn well it was just bad like shooting two threes in a game a week like
yeah that's tough it's annoying yeah and people don't realize that goes to your overall three-point shooting percentage. I've had two seasons of barely playing
Have been like 30% and below from the three so it's like fuck that my overall three-point percentage
And then people judge you by look look you didn't even shoot this for your career. Are you career right now?
I'm looking is 36.5 and
That's what two seasons of 27 and 24.
That's what happened my second year.
I got hurt, microfracture.
I was coming back,
and it was like halfway through the season,
and I barely played because I was still kind of injured
and still shot like 20, 22%.
As a shooter, anything under 35% is trash.
As an expert in bench warming,
what a lot of people don't realize
is we do not want to get in the game
So fuck up this
What I'm gonna do in two minutes
And it's the game average yes, yeah, what I'm gonna do
But you gotta be efficient because it's like I hear that but also like I know that at the end of the game if we're losing
The other team is gonna kind of let us do shit.
You get a couple free throws, get a couple layups, open shots.
Ain't nobody contesting shit.
Everybody in there like, we don't even want to be in here.
Oh, yeah, give me that bitch.
I'm shooting that bitch.
The key is to make deals with a player on the other team.
Let me shoot.
Oh, no, no, we do that. I'll let you shoot.
Oh, for sure.
The game has already been decided.
The game is over.
You get put in for that last minute 15. You're just like. I'll tell him. You better bet you should. Oh, for sure. The game has already been decided. The game is over and you get put in for that last minute 15.
You're just like.
I'll tell him, you better move out of my way, my man.
Yeah, I mean, that's why my percentages were so low because I was putting that shit up.
No, that's what ends up happening.
You get judged by your overall.
Yeah, you only averaged this against this person.
Well, are you counting my first two years too?
Because you only got in three and a half seconds one game.
Yes. two minutes of
the game that becomes a full game so that's zero and zero so if i scored 21 game and then zero and
zero god damn it i'm at 6.5 i'm at 6.5 foot a year you have no you have all these games in zero
then you have a really good game it don't matter it don't matter average per 36 per 48 you're like
college my per 40 very very very very splendid
Like so like this 20 games right here all the shots he missed there's gonna be part of his overall average
He's been put in one game get in like I've been sitting here for
38 game minutes
hour something like this
The last time I shot the basketball or touched it right it
was three hours ago so when I get in and I get my first shot one hell yeah I'm
about to chuck this ship to am I gonna make it probably not right it's the
first this shit feels foreign very I've been drinking water clapping hands all
day god dammit, I don't
Guys heard it. I learned the method of it. I became notorious
For they would look at the little stat sheet out of the game like damn shot play four minutes and shot the ball ten times
Like every single time don't y'all even look at me don't look at me I'm putting the heat pack I look I started a start getting one so I put in the heat pack like you know
They put it on your knees. Not that I put on my arm. I used to be warm my hands
Yeah, put on my arm. I need you. I need you warm soon as we get in
Yeah, the cold hands is the work cold hands is the word God 35 seconds. We got two shot attempts
Yes, you get put in and the other team still got good players in.
Fact.
Now what do you want me to do with that?
I'm playing against starters now.
They are good.
But they've been running.
They warm.
I'm about to show you.
I'm about to show you what I'm going to do.
They about to find out what I'm going to do.
I'm going to shoot that bitch.
So if you hoop long enough, at some point you're going to have some embarrassing moments.
Like this one right here.
Okay, watch this unity.
Women supporting women.
I love it.
There it is.
Uh-oh.
Fell off.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Team effort both sides.
Watch how they gather around her.
Oh, no.
Let's get it.
She lost her whole hat. I love this part so much. Oh no, let's get it. She lost her whole hat.
I love this very much.
All of the both teams?
Yes.
Teamwork.
Love it.
She didn't even break her ankle or nothing.
Watch Dawn Staley.
First of all, look how early in the game this is.
Wait till you see Dawn.
I didn't even notice.
Dawn Staley don't know what's going on.
Don is like, huh?
Don't know, then finds out.
Oh, okay.
Okay, okay.
That's reasonable.
She's like, oh, okay, I get it.
That was beautiful.
So Lexi, you tweeted,
I swear this is my biggest fear, but shout out to the girls
for helping sis out.
Man.
What's the wildest malfunction you've ever seen on a basketball? That, something very similar to that.
Is that the wildest?
You've seen it in game?
Oh, in a workout.
Oh, no, it was in a workout.
Okay.
I literally had just got my hair done, and I didn't just, for some reason, I didn't tie it down.
And I felt it just slide back.
And then my trainer just stared at me, and I was like, I just ran to the bathroom, and I tied it down. just stared at me and I was like I
just ran to the bathroom and I decided it was fine but I was like lost the
whole sunroof on this you didn't see anything I didn't even acknowledge it
when I came back in okay just lost the whole time. It just slid. I felt it too. I was like, oh no.
It hasn't happened since.
That was like three years ago.
I just have a question.
What's the benefit of that?
Of what?
Like having that, like having that as an obstacle, extra hair that can come off like that.
I mean, I don't know. Like if we playing and I had the flat top.
Well, there's been many ways.
And you found me and the flat top flew off.
There are many ways to make sure that doesn't happen.
So the fact that that happened is kind of insane.
Yeah.
There's so many ways now for that to never happen.
But even one time in Chicago, I had on a fake long ponytail.
I was trying to be cute.
I didn't think I was going to get in the game.
Just to go out in the game.
So the whole game, I was just worried about my ponytail.
Were you?
I was just doing... My mom was like, why you... She texted me, why you keep touching
your hair in the game?
Keep touching the hair.
I was like, Mom, I don't know if it was secure enough.
It was though.
I got some really cute pictures.
In game pics. I got some really cute pictures
That's the most like some fire in game things yeah
I mean in fact, I just want to see one just one player just like
They seen you're talking trash, and it's just you know what and they just go to work
All right, you know what take it off and then just I'm about to get the business. Yeah, you've been talking shy
Hit it with the I mean that'll be fun. That'll be funny though. You know that SportsCenter like a soup
You know night-night
Can you get off and throw it in somebody's face on the break? Like a headband. Hey, man. Damn.
Hair is expensive.
I don't know if anybody will just throw it.
I'm surprised they don't wear headbands just to make sure it don't.
They do, so I don't know how that happened.
You know, things happen.
But shout out to South Carolina and Ole Miss.
Yeah, that was a beautiful moment.
Uniting in a beautiful moment.
Harmonious basketball exhibition.
So, a shot again.
What's the most embarrassing moment
in your sports career?
You go first, all right?
I mean, Clippers.
So, okay, so I've said it before, but you know,
back then, you know, shaving.
So, you know, my girl used to, you know, women shave.
So I just thought, you know, cleaning up the man area
was the thing to do, right?
Because it kind of makes it look a little bigger than it's supposed to be, right?
So, right, you know, so I end up getting, like, keloid bumps from the rusty razor.
So the team doctor had to give me this little ointment, right, that burned off the keloids.
So what happens is in three days, it's supposed to burn off and you just dab it.
Well, unfortunately, obviously I'm young,
I don't know what dab means, so I just rub it in like lotion.
Whoo, whole side.
It burned all my skin off.
Burned all my skin off.
So we're playing the Clippers in LA and I'm sitting there shaped all of this so I had to put baby powder
Right to make you feel good. So don't think about how much baby powder you think my dumb ass put into the figure
So I'm just spraying the whole bottle so I didn't feel the pain
Right and then like it's leaking out the bottom of it. So I decided shit just put tape
So I'd like do do the, you know, so, like, you know, like the tape for the ankles?
I did that around here so it wouldn't leak out, right?
I'm digging that safe.
So I'm in the game, right?
Tried to do something and got hit.
Boom, and fail.
Fail.
All baby powder smoke.
Everybody's slipping on the floor because they didn't know what the hell was going on.
So think about baby powder on the floor.
People were slipping, so they were trying to figure out what.
So I had to go back, change everything.
Yeah.
Can you top that?
I can't top that. I can to I can't talk to your most embarrassing
moment in your sports career most embarrassing moments so for me it's
always been fast break right I always wanted to do the windmill all right fast
break it's always been my little dream like when I get my win when I get my fast break
I'm gonna do something nasty because I had balance I could do whatever
Windmill was always the nicest don't to do and I did my windmill differently everybody does their sideways
I did mine this way like kind of like Jason Richardson
So I'm on the break Carolina. I think we were playing against Maryland. And at a glory moment, everybody stood up.
I'm like, yes, here it go.
Got up there.
Bang!
Hung.
Damn.
Fell.
Oh, the hanging with the club.
Now, usually when you get hung, they go to the other side.
You go down, get back on defense.
No, we didn't get that opportunity.
We kept the ball on this end of the floor, which then coaches just pissed.
Fucking subbed me out and everything.
I had to live in that moment.
Everybody laughing in the student section because everything is right there.
They're just laughing at me.
I'm just like, that's going to be SportsCenter for sure.
For sure.
And damn sure it was. for sure. For sure. And damn sure it was SportsCenter for sure.
And I was, hey, the most embarrassing moment.
I never got an opportunity to do a windmill again.
Getting hung is horrible.
It's up there.
We got some breaking news.
Toronto's Scottie Barnes and the Hawks' Trey Young
have been named NBA Commissioner Adam Silver's
injury replacements for the Eastern Conference team for the 2024 NBA All-Star Game.
Trae Young.
The NBA has righted the wrongs.
Trae Young will be playing in the All-Star Game.
Shout out to Ice Trae.
Shout out to Scottie Barnes.
Scottie Barnes.
Gil, how do you feel about your Adidas brethren, Trae Young?
Other than Scottie Barnes. No, I mean you feel about your Adidas brethren, Trae Young? Other than Scottie Barnes.
No, I mean, yeah.
Are you looking at Gil?
When he pulled the phone up, he's looking up something.
What's Miles Turner's numbers?
Miles Turner, this season.
28 and 6.
Who?
Scottie Barnes.
Oh.
Miles Turner's averaging 17-7.
He's averaging 28 points.
Two blocks, 48 games.
Scottie Barnes is?
20.
Damn.
28 and 6.
Good for Trevor.
Replacing Embiid and Julius Randle, we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
There could be a backlash if a reserve player was like, nah, I'm good.
Y'all didn't vote me.
No one doing that.
You can't do that.
Already got a vacation planned.
I like Scottie, but I would like to see miles to get that
Okay, so okay just just you know, I love Scotty because you know, he's he's an all-star
Okay, but how do you how do you justify?
Not having
Trey young originally and you use his record but then you sub him in for Scottie Barnes,
whose team has 17 wins.
Let's hit up Adam Silver.
Toronto, they throwing that Toronto guy,
throw some Toronto.
I guess they trying to spread the wealth, I guess.
No, I'm just trying to figure out how does it...
When you're a reserve,
the whole team aspect of it goes out the window.
That's what I'm saying.
How does it?
Now you're an individual.
What about Przingis?
What's Przingis' number?
17, like 17 and 8.
What about Derek White?
Stop.
Gil.
Did y'all see that graphic?
The Celtics are 38 and 12.
Y'all saw it?
Did you see that graphic?
Yeah, the Celtics are 38 and 12.
He's the fourth player.
19 and 7 with two blocks.
Huh? 19 and 7? 19 and 7 with two blocks. The Celtics are 38-12. He's the fourth player.
19-7?
19-7 with two blocks.
So it's 19-7 and two blocks on the number one team.
Should have pushed him as the all-star over Scottie Barnes. And replace a big.
It's two bigs that's being.
I'm just wondering, how do you justify keeping Trae Young originally off by using his record as the excuse but then a replacement?
Words where it is
Worst record I just that's I said like I don't like when they do stuff like this because it's always contradicting to
But it's bigger like we like I say we can't be haters on no no no at least big up to Scotty
We owe we know we owe we gonna, I'm just saying, I just like to make it
make sense. So it stays
consistent so everyone knows
what's going on.
Right? Now, if you were to put
Porzingis in there,
yes.
And then anyone who's capable
of to be an all-star.
The fact that someone's
someone on the
couch is saying a fourth option over the third option it was in jest chief it was
it no I'm just then it would be trying to say like the old Pistons rule which
is because of this team is good let's throw pazingas in there with Jalen and
did it three all-stars right on the Celtics yeah but they didn't have
poor Zingas in front they't have Porzingis in front.
They had White.
They had White in front of Porzingis.
I think they had Porzingis and White on that graphic, but they just had White's team record.
Team record.
But they do that.
I mean, and it's sad that, you know, like real All-Star players that you come to see
gets pushed out over someone who's winning, who's in fourth option.
You're not part of our scouting report.
We do not care about you.
No one's coming to see you but your family and friends.
You are an all-star in an award that is the best players in the league.
Now you get to use your team, your team success. When you're talking about options, a fourth option is just a part of the team.
That is not really a factor of the team.
And he gets to make an all-star game where the all-star game is usually the first options and then some second options.
Let me know, what was his numbers?
He's been hurt.
He's been hurt most of the numbers? He's been hurt. He's been hurt most of the time?
He's been hurt.
I was just thinking about all the East stars and all of who got left off,
who could potentially have made it.
I'm not going to put Drew in there.
Certain guys you can't put in Bane,
and certain guys have just been hurt down the line.
You got Jimmy.
Jimmy made it, right?
Jimmy's an all-star. I don't think Jimmy
I don't like see Jimmy didn't make it damn me
even Tyler hero
Think it's all about it, but okay, but but something like that, right?
It's like well if I have to put someone there
This is what they usually do just put Jimmy in there because everyone knows the name and it's a negative and it's consecutive like Jimmy
But with Scotty, it's like, well, he's the
up-and-coming, you know,
all-star, so it's easier because
moving forward, this is going to be his team, and
he's going to be the all-star guy,
so let's just go ahead and do it now. But we see the struggle that Trey
has endured,
right, over the years, not being able to
be an all-star, and then, like,
to try to give Scottie the nod
just because, like, if Trey have to go through it,ty the nod just because like if trey have to go through
it let's let all the rest of these players have to go through it d book went through it everybody
gotta go through don't just give niggas the nod just because it's like well he's a young player
he's the future it's like but so is this guy not only is this guy more the future his numbers speak
louder than guys who are in the starting row. So why would you?
Come on, man.
This is just being biased.
I feel bad for Trey, though.
I really do.
It's a lot of hate in the air.
You feel bad because it's he's hated because he's good.
And how he plays the game is not he's hated because he's bad.
He's hated like like think about he become them
He became the most hated dude because how he went in a garden and whooped the gardens ass
That's where he became hate like cuz he's in there
frying in y'all asses y'all hated the man to the point where
You're using his what he did to y'all as like, nah, we don't like him.
I'm not voting for him.
Come on.
But it's the family side for me.
It's like his family, his friends, the people who really are backing him.
These are the people who got to be like, yo, what's really going on?
Because I know from my family, looking back at longevity and history how things panned out everybody has an expectation for you especially him
coming out of Oklahoma being compared to Steph Curry it's like where is that
lineage gonna start where is that true comparison gonna start if the All-Stars
are never gonna be there if you know going to the playoffs is you know or
exceeding going to the finals is never going to be there.
Certain things that Steph has, you can't even compare to Trey.
But Trey has the ability to be compared to him.
So we're taking away the true comparison
when we always go down to the metrics and the stats.
It's like, all right, Trey, Steph.
Well, Steph was seven-time All-Star and just the All-NBA.
And it's like, well, y'all hated on him just because.
So why did frying the Knicks work for Reggie Miller,
but it seems to be hurting Trae Young?
I don't know.
That's weird.
I don't know how that works.
It's so odd.
It's so weird.
Because it's like it's like.
I'm like, y'all don't love the Knicks that much.
Y'all like great basketball.
So it's like, I'm like, y'all don't love the Knicks that much. Y'all like great basketball.
They don't have a great team either.
So it's like, what are we doing?
Knicks fans love great basketball.
And I came in here and gave you great basketball.
And you want to spit on me?
Because your team is not good.
So you're mad at me?
This is when you know New York fans is affected.
They're in the next year playoffs playing Cavs talking about Trey Young overrated.
Like, wait a minute.
He's not even in the playoff.
I mean, anytime in New York
a fuck Trey Young champ
will break out for no particular reason.
But that's what you know right there.
Just him doing this
pisses people off.
He went in there and cried there.
So, I mean, a lot of hate in the air.
We got to talk about
some hate that the women's side is getting.
Michael Porter Jr.
pulled up to the pivot recently,
had this to say about the women's game.
Uh-oh.
And they're very talented,
but so is a famous ping pong player.
They're just as talented as a...
Like, the best ping pong player
is just as talented as the best
basketball player that doesn't mean they're going to get paid the same because it's because they
play ping pong it's what the people want to watch you know what i mean so as much as i understand
females wanting the same treatment as as men basketball players is is it's a different sport
people they're not packing out the arenas obviously their, their TV deals aren't the same. So as much as I advocate for women and kind of the equality of the respect of their craft and all those things, I mean, you can't pay them the same thing.
But I do feel like there should be a little way to make a little bit more money for them because they are very talented. I think the big thing, obviously, when you're thinking about negotiations, labor unions and different things like that,
I don't believe there's any woman that believes she should be paid as a man gets paid. It's more
about the revenue share. It's more about the percentage. And I think those things play into it.
And then the other side of it is treatment. Within their own organizations.
They're never...
It's not as exciting.
It's not as exciting basketball.
Yeah, you're not...
I would watch a girl coming down the lane.
I would watch that.
They need to lower their arms.
Actually...
Um... So Lexi, you have some thoughts on MPJ's comments.
Floor is yours.
Well, let me start by saying,
I think his heart was in the right place.
So I'm not here to shit on Michael Porgy.
I do think he started,
he started on the right foot,
and then he just kind of put his foot in his mouth.
And, like, my issue with the pivot is they allow these guys to say things that they know is wrong,
and they just are like, okay, keep going, keep going.
Or they'll feed them more information for them to then double down on the stupid shit that they had just said. So,
I mean, there's like a lot to unpack in his like statements, identifying us as females instead of
women the whole time, um, that we can't get treated the same. And then he, he then says
treatment to payment, which are two completely different things. We can still be treated with
respect and they can respect our craft without us making 20 to $30 million a year. Like those
things are not like those, both of those things can happen. We cannot get paid $30 million and
we can be respected and treated well for being professional basketball players. Lowering the
comment. You already know how I feel about that it's stupid it doesn't benefit
me personally at all because i'm not gonna dunk i can't dunk on a 10 foot rim i'm definitely not
gonna duck on a nine foot rim it's gonna fuck up my shooting gonna fuck up everybody's shooting
and i just feel like the way he plays basketball like he shoots a lot of threes i just don't you
don't he doesn't dunk he wants us to dunk. You dunk. What are we talking
about? It's a tired conversation. And I'm very annoyed with men continuing to create these spaces
to discuss these things when they don't watch our games. They don't know us. They don't ask us
our opinions about anything ever. And you don't have to watch us play that's fine but like for you to
just sit there and just constantly shit on our craft our product and everything
without really being tuned in like it's just not it's not right at this point
but again you don't have to watch anything but y'all always want to talk
about us so might as well watch us shit like damn okay i have a question okay
what is the problem
what is the solution right now if we can't one answer the questions and we can't come to any
resolve about any of the conversations that's being had.
So a lot of times when we do ask the questions, so what's the problem?
Yeah.
I mean, everyone says the problem is the product.
That's not the problem.
There's great basketball being played throughout the entire W.
Then we're either getting compared to NBA, which everyone complains about how NBA is being played right now.
So we either get compared to that,
or we get compared to the three most marketed
women's college basketball games
of the entire women's college basketball season.
So we're stuck in the middle,
just getting it from both sides.
If we were out there playing bad basketball,
I would understand,
but, like, that's not the case.
So marketing, promotion,
our equity in our media deals, all that,
it's, like, a very layered issue.
Let me ask you this.
You say you're playing good basketball.
You feel that.
Yeah.
So if we asked NBA players right now,
are you guys playing good basketball right now,
do you think they would say yes?
It's like a consensus of...
I mean, they say it publicly,
so I can't hear their true opinions.
But they would say yeah, like we're playing good basketball.
I think they would say yes.
So the real consensus and the real judgment
doesn't come from the internal.
Right.
The players are always going to stay within the players' consensus.
We're playing pretty good basketball. We don't feel like we're playing basketball bad.
But then you go to the fans and us, who we could say,
hey, basketball is shit right now when we watch the NBA.
But it's not coming from our fans. It's coming from whoever.
The people who have the voice.
People who don't really watch the game.
Right. Yeah.
But when you look at the fans don't have a voice as much as we do as interpreting what the fans are telling us and feeding us and we just push it out, right?
So, like I said, the solution.
What is the solution to you believing that y'all are playing good basketball but the fans are showing otherwise because they're not coming out to support, which would change the sales,
which would change the concessions and all of the things that make the W boom. And even for
the NBA, the NBA would boom more if everyone felt the basketball was really being played at a high
level. Now, if we got a bunch of guys scoring at a high level as they are, 70s, 60s, 50s.
How many ladies in the W are doing that, putting on a show?
Like Asia.
She was what, 55?
Something like that, 57?
That was the only outburst.
Then you got Sabrina with the three-pointers.
Those are the two things that we're looking at like, all right, that will be entertaining.
Arike in dallas she shows
some glass some some stuff um point guard uh for the aces is to uh chelsea she shows her thing
every now and again but at the end of the day where's the flash and dash and we look at juju
we look at caitlin right you look at angel these are girls who are in college that give an
entertainment quality but they're not in a W so when you talk about the solution it's like all
right you hear a bunch of people giving their opinion on the problem we got to figure out how
you guys can deliver the solution so it can be delivered to you guys right because if there is
no the solution it's like you got to deal with
everybody keep identifying the problem.
But it's just,
and I completely understand
where you're coming from,
but it's like we're getting shit on
because our team,
our league is so small
and so talented.
Like those outbursts are hard
because you have
such talented players on your team.
So it's like, yeah, you'll get maybe a 50 ball here, a 40 ball there.
But it's hard.
And we actually be D-ing up.
I tell y'all that all the time.
Maybe we'll play less defense to up the entertainment value,
which I completely understand.
But the people watching
got to understand when that happens,
like we're getting yelled at by our coaches
and all these things.
So it's like, it's a cycle.
And I think we're getting there.
You know, we don't take as many threes
as the NBA does yet.
I think we're heading in that direction.
I think this draft class
and next year's draft class,
I think they're going to make a big effort
to keep these players in the league,
to keep the eyes on the league,
but that has nothing to do with us.
All right.
Because I did my research on all of it.
The problem is that the WNBA girls that are in there now
are too selfish to sacrifice today for the future.
From day one, they handicapped American girls, right?
So the American girls, if you're born in America,
you have to go to college and play to a certain age, right?
Overseas girls who have no following, right?
You don't have an American following,
but because you turn pro at an early age, because
there's no high school basketball, you can come into the NBA or the WNBA at 18, 19 years
old.
Well, the product that has the following here has to wait.
So you're sitting in college.
Now think about how college basketball is, for the most part, it becomes dinosaurish,
right?
So for three years, whatever wild horse
came into college basketball with their style
out of high school has been whipped
into a team type of player, a system player.
When that system player gets into the W,
she follows the rules.
The problem with the W is
if you don't allow the youth
to come in and change the game,
change it, right?
You think about the...
What I'm saying is you think about the Jujus
and the Kellys and all those guys.
If they come into the league right now,
Taurasi and them can't physically
keep up with these girls,
which means get the fuck out of the league already.
Retire, retire, retire.
These girls is too fast, they're moving too fast at a speed you can't keep up with.
But if I get to play against another 40 year old,
because we get to sit in here at 40 years old, it is easy to play basketball then.
But if I got to stick someone that's, think about Jeff Teague when he retired,
right, at 30 something.
This is because somebody was moving.
I can't keep up with these dudes.
I'm out.
Make room for somebody else.
So what ends up happening is the product,
the thing that pushes the W into another category of money
is sitting in college.
And it's been sitting in college.
It's always been.
All your stars.
Since our draft class 2018,
I think our entire first round picks
are still actively playing.
But it has taken so many years for us
to get our own names and faces
that whatever hype we had in college
is like non-existent.
Unless you're at an active social media,
do other stuff.
But then you've got to go to Europe and play.
Now you're dark for eight months, now you come back.
You're like, oh, I'm back.
And everyone's like, wait, who are you again?
You're our draft pick.
Like, look at this class right here, right?
The names you're saying.
All of those girls can stay in college one more year.
Yeah.
Right?
They can stay in college one more year.
They have the most popular names amongst, if we say just women's basketball itself, some of those college girls would be part of these names.
Some of them might be in front of W, like one or two, like most famous basketball player right now.
One of those college girls is going to be one or two, right?
Yep.
And it's not a product inside the W, which those are the girls that's going to move the needles.
Those are the girls that's going to get all the lipstick thing.
Think about the youth that follows them, right?
Those are the ones who buys the jerseys, buys the products.
They're the ones who put money into the game.
The NBA, when Jordan retired the first time and they started using the youth, Kobe, KG, T-Mac.
They started pushing the younger talent as a thing.
Do you think if he didn't retire, that would have happened then?
Probably not.
Like, who's your, that's what I'm saying, who's the Trojan horse that takes the W, right?
If you're saying it's Juju, then you need to make a rule where she can come in now.
She can come in now.
Because the thing about the rule is, it's rule is, you don't have to leave.
So I've always been very much against that,
letting them come out whenever rule,
because then I think some girls will come out
that shouldn't, and then what?
But you don't have to do that.
What I'm saying is, it shouldn't.
That's what I'm saying.
Like the NBA,
Kobe is not compared to Eddie Jones, right?
That's who he's in front, he's,
Eddie Jones is an all-star, this kid is 18.
We're not on the same playing field.
I know his trajectory, so he has a spot no matter what.
He's protected no matter what.
My number one pick coming out of high school, 18, right?
She is protected no matter what because one, her
understanding, the hits
understanding, being a pro,
by the time she would have got in here
versus, like, you know,
even though she don't play this year, she battles
with you guys in practice every day.
By the time she, yeah, by the time it would be
her regular rookie year, she'd be three
years in, she might be a dominant pro
by then, right?
Those are what's missing in the game.
And then same thing,
get rid of some of those dinosaur-ass coaches, right?
What is your offense?
Do y'all run UCLA cut?
No.
How many teams actually run UCLA cut in the W?
I don't think many anymore.
Because I know I was a...
What was the coach from Detroit?
Bill Embiir. I was watching... What was the coach from Detroit? Bill and Bear.
I was watching a game where I'm watching him.
I'm like, wait, are they running UCLA?
Is that the UCLA flex cut?
When Becky came in.
Yeah, like that.
She shut all that shit down.
But that's what I'm saying.
You need to put speeds in.
So if you guys shoot three,
y'all should be shooting 43s a game.
Oh, I agree.
But I think, I hope in the new CBA,
which is about to be renegotiated,
rookie contracts become one of your guaranteed ones.
I think that would help with this youth movement.
35 and over.
32 and over.
I don't have no value for you.
Let's address the elephant in the room, really is.
The ultimate sacrifice that the WNBA has to make is integrity of the game and
entertainment value
This is the ultimate sacrifice the NBA made when he's talking about Michael Jordan
retired
The game changed the format that allowed players who had the abilities to be more entertaining to bring in more
Seat-fillers, so when you look at that WNBA as compared to, in my eyes, the EuroLeague.
EuroLeague compared to NBA is a totally different game because they play with integrity, it's
boring, it's real basketball.
And real basketball is boring because you're running sets, you're talking on defense, you're
doing everything-
You're using the whole shot clock.
You learn from college. But is that real basketball?
From where we come from, from the foundation of it, right?
So then you look at the W, it's foundational basketball from college.
So it looks like still college basketball, but it's just older women playing college basketball.
It's not entertaining. So the sacrifice that needs to be made is when Juju and Caitlin
and all of these other younger players
come in, allow them to be more entertaining,
take the fossils out of the game,
which are running the fossil offenses.
There are a lot of players in right now that are entertaining
like that. They just...
But we see them.
They're harnessed by coaches.
Yeah, so you got the sacrifice
of the game.
And so much rides on if you win things instead of just how you play and how you carry yourself. And I think once we can separate that as well, I think more players will be more comfortable just hooping.
Yes, you want to win, obviously.
If you're a good enough player, wins will come. But if you're out there hooping and you don't win a championship
or you don't make it to the finals, like, you can't be like,
but that's what happens.
In the NBA right now, how many box outs do you actually see?
None.
All right.
The integrity of the game when it comes to box outs, cool.
Rotations, how many rotations do you truly see happening, right?
When you talk about the sacrifice that was made is we don't hold them accountable for the small things that made basketball basketball anymore.
They let that go.
But because we're women, it's like we have to do everything the right way.
Everything, yeah.
But the right way is get it done.
If I got a girl that can come down, Caitlin, right?
If she comes in and jack shots, that's her game,
and she comes to the W and I say, we don't play like that.
Yes.
I'm as a coach, if I'm a coach, I did a dish justice to the league itself by doing that.
Yes, 100%.
She is famous.
She is the number one two pick because of this style.
If I do not adapt to this style I ruined the game for you lowering the rim
for Duncan you're not selling your game to NBA and dudes there's a there's it's
called women's basketball there's women out there everywhere that supports the
game so you lowering the rim to seven foot and six foot who gives a fuck what
we think my daughter is not watching the game for Duncan right she's not watching the game for dunking.
She's not watching the game for this.
She's watching the game for what it is because that's how she plays it.
So that's your fan base.
You have to- Oh yeah, having no women.
Like high school girls.
Think about high school girls and college girls.
Your fan base, they play a whole different, think about what I'm saying. They live a whole different style and play a whole different style than you.
They dress different, they roll their little shorts up, thigh.
Y'all got on long shorts.
Y'all are old women to them, right?
I don't wear long shorts.
No, I'm just saying for the most part, y'all, so y'all-
I'm real cute on that word, please.
So think about it, when you guys come into the draft, y'all got y'all please no thing so think about it when you guys come into the draft
y'all got on suits business women stuff what what do you think a 16 year old girl is looking at
what the hell is that we need to pull up uh my job class picture no i'm just saying for just
consent i don't think we have no i'm just saying one or two i'm just saying but they but you you
you are women yeah but your audience is girls.
Yeah.
Right?
So it's two different, so there's a bridge that's gone because you're 22.
These girls are 16, 17, 18.
So the look that they have versus what they see is very different to them.
And that's great that you said that because I was just with a bunch of women in like the fashion and entertainment industry.
And I had been meeting them for the first time and
they all said it. I had no idea that
WNBA players
looked like you. I've never seen one.
And I was like,
that's what I've been trying to tell
people though. Because people think I get
in my feelings because I don't
get promoted. I don't do this. I'm not
one of the WNBA faces, whatever. No,
I don't care. I'm doing my own thing. I love playing basketball. It's cool. But I didn't get promoted. I don't do this. I'm not one of the WNBA faces, whatever. No, I don't care. I'm doing my own thing.
I love playing basketball.
It's cool.
But I didn't grow up seeing girls look like me out there, their hair done, their nails done, their lashes, makeup on.
I love all of that as long as you take care of business on the court.
But I've had a group of women like my age, a little older maybe, tell me that this is the first time they've seen a WNBA player that looks like me and I'm just kind of like well
let's talk a little bit about the future of the W with the special hibachi time
and we got the license about the sizzle so you know Kayla Clark gonna smash
Kelsey plums career scoring record but a USC freshman may be coming for it in the near future.
So let's talk about Juju Watkins.
You brought her up earlier, Gil.
Sarah Kane Products set a USC record this weekend, dropping 51 points.
Upset win against Stanford.
14 for 26 from the field, 6 of 11 from three.
17 for 19 from the free throw line.
She also had 11 rebounds, four steals.
So Juju's averaging 27.3 points per game this season.
Doing things like this.
Cooking time.
She make her bocce proud, Juju.
No, no, facts.
So, you've watched Juju since high school.
Mm-hmm.
She played with your daughter, right?
Sierra Canyon.
Mm-hmm.
Very familiar with her game.
What's Juju Watkins to you?
Okay, I'm going to just go from WNBA coach, Hall of Famer, Don.
Don last year said she is the greatest basketball,
women's basketball player ever, and she's a high school kid.
She got labeled that by Don last year.
This is the grit, the way she moves, the way she plays.
If you had her work out with Booker and Kevin Durant, which she does,
that's who she works out with, she would have the same mannerisms,
the same moves, the same everything. She doesn't have no girl motor in her, right? I mean,
she's a girl. You can see it, right? Young woman, yeah.
She imitates them. Yeah, she imitates them. You can see how she plays. That's not women's
basketball. That's just a hooper. So she is the game changer.
And the fact that she has to go to college for four years is going to be a downfall on the W.
You have the player.
You have, in Don's, you have the Michael Jordan of women's basketball at your doorstep.
Are you going to let it in to change your game or are you going to let it sit in college for four years?
It's your call.
But you see where it's at and you see what it's doing.
It's different.
It moves different.
It walks different.
It looks different.
She can sell products.
She can move products.
She can put an arena.
This is your
golden nugget. What are you going to do with it? Lexi, what do you think about Juju? I mean,
I think she's amazing. I've seen her play live twice. She got a pro-ready game. Her IQ is
really high for someone that's only 18 years old. and yeah i mean usc is pretty much giving her
the keys so it's nice to see a young player like that get that freedom off rip because that's not
how it was for me that's not how it has been in the past you have your best player that's a freshman
you just let her be her and do her so it's been great to see but yeah i agree with gil like
i've been very hard on not allowing younger players
come into the league just because of the earnings.
You have to go overseas sometimes.
But now we have other opportunities here in the States,
more opportunities for branding and all these kind of things.
So I don't think overseas will be an issue for a player like Juju.
But again, the rule, like, it's not a designation
that, like, everyone should leave early.
But I think they should make that option.
You think, you know, obviously, and we talked about this a lot,
making that transition to W, you got first-rounders who get cut,
who can't even make things.
Right, so if they're going to lower that, like I said earlier,
you need to guarantee these rookies their contracts
for at least two seasons so they can come in, learn.
But you say with Juju's game, you think where she's at right now,
I'm not saying she would come to the W right now and be a star.
Nigga, she's smashing him.
Listen, man, listen.
Can I? May I?
She's a hoop for sure.
She's a 6'1 guard that is stronger than probably every guard in the W at her size.
It's like she's big.
She's more athletic than all of them.
I mean, you're going to have a freak of nature that moves like her.
And if they do, they're probably not coordinated like her.
So they're literally going to be playing against a Devin Booker female style.
May I?
I love this conversation. Because we have the opportunity, right?
Well, we can forget all of the metrics and the rules and just say, go pluck them out as they are.
Not, oh, everybody can come out.
No, no, no, no.
You and you.
Come on in here.
I got to bring Kaitlyn Clark into this just because she would be considered for me to Larry Bird and
Juju would be the LeBron James
MJ so if we go back not even close, but
Let me cook for a second. Yeah, so
You look at the white and black contrast of it all Iowa
Juju UFC she got the talent natural ability boom boom boom all of that the booby miles
caitlyn is doing something that i've never seen before she could have left last year when i'm
talking about like just take her and let her go everybody else the rules still apply to y'all
but y'all not her you see what she's doing crazy incredible she not she ain't gotta put up 51
because what she's doing and how she plays it it's like, okay, what is that?
Okay, you can't stop her from getting to the cup.
And if you try to, stop, pop, boom, from wherever the fuck she want to shoot it from.
Cash money. Juju, you can't stay in front of her.
She's got silky shit with her.
It's moving on a string.
So when you look at the dynamic between the two marketing it goes back to magic and bird how when
they came in you had two contrasts with two different markets and you say we gotta have we
gotta make this work for us in order to build the value of the league we put them against each other
but if you can't you got to keep them in college it's not helping that's why i say that sacrifice
play each other the sacrifice they don't play each other they're never. They don't play each other? They're never. Well, if Caitlyn leaves, they only play each other in the tournament.
I can tell you this. If they matched up,
it'd be embarrassing for Caitlyn.
I don't think so.
Caitlyn wouldn't even guard.
It's like Steph again.
Once she can't guard Juju,
and Juju's going to guard her.
And she's not going to get past the girl.
I've got a million screens coming at Juju. Hey all of my teammates screen her gear off me get her off
Get her off because I trap it. I'll see nothing
Get her off. Have you seen you have you seen juju up close? Yeah, that's her off me
She gonna pick her up full court. Yeah
It's fake and one-handed dribble. I got two big girls. Get her off me.
Get her off me.
Get her off me.
I don't give a...
And I'm about to shoot this bitch
as soon as she give me
a little bit of breathing room.
And Juju going to be like this.
Come here.
Ha!
Yeah, yeah.
So you look at the dynamic.
It's a sacrifice for the league
to say, look,
we got to ease up on these rules
for certain generational players
because we're keeping them down there
too long.
We're suffering. They're not necessarily suffering because they're keeping them down there too long. We're suffering.
They're not necessarily suffering
because they're building up their fan base.
They're still getting better.
But for the league to say that things are not happening
for them when they have things or solutions
right in front of you, you're holding those solutions back.
Now it's like, what y'all complaining about?
Y'all made the rules.
Even like the W draft picks, right?
One through four, pick one and four makes the same amount?
The fuck?
There's a lot.
There are a lot of internal changes that need to be done.
But that's what I'm saying.
So, what happens is there has to like It dis favors the owner like this the the what?
Women are afraid of
Benefits the owners a hard cap, right?
Benefits the owners you're a billionaire right? You got three billion. I got two hundred million
It's in my best interest that I can hard cap.
So you can't just overspend and put the price up so I can afford my team.
So I can compete with you.
Right?
So what I'm doing is handicapping the billionaire for spending his money.
Right?
And that's when the billionaire should say, hold on.
Like, we're not on the same playing field.
We don't have the same marketing.
We don't have the same city.
So no, you afford what you're going to afford.
So now I can over.
Let us do what we want to do.
Now I can do what I want to do, right?
My draft picks, I want to pay the draft pick, the number one
pick, this, this, this.
Unfortunately, you shouldn't get that pick
if you can't afford it.
What happens is now my broke ass got to go out,
even though $200 million is not broke. But my broke ass now got to go find real funding to help me
Compete with you which puts more money in the happening
Which is why we have probably three teams who are just
Light years ahead of us just based on that alone
You have on a heart with a heart a hard cap with a heart Look at the talent that's being stacked on those teams.
With a hard cap.
So you got three teams with mostly all the talent on these three teams.
So where is the money going to be allocated if the WNBA needs more money to spend on certain XY players?
So if Juju and Kaitlyn are the metric of these are the type of players who are going to bring money in for us.
Right.
They're in college.
Correct.
The other type of players are going to bring in money on us.
They're all on the same team.
Right.
Three different teams, which those three teams have all the money.
They're paying them pretty good.
Everyone else is complaining about we ain't getting paid enough.
Now, how good are you?
Right.
Are you showing your talent to be able to say, I want more
money because I'm putting up numbers, I'm
putting people in the seats, I'm selling these jerseys?
It's a business at
the end of the day. We can't become emotional
if we're not doing the good business
because when you do good business, you go in and negotiate.
Numbers don't lie.
That man's that man. You got the
stats. When you got the
stats, numbers don't lie.
I completely agree with what y'all are saying.
And I've been saying this since I got into the league because of what I've been through and dealt with.
And I just have seen things be mismanaged.
And I just, I mean, I've always had like a lot of ideas.
I just never have been able to express them because I've always had been like one foot out.
So, Alexi, you talked about.
No, it's the, okay.
So where money inflates is potential, right?
Right now, the WNBA don't have potential.
Yeah.
They have players, right?
The potential is the younger generation, right?
So let's say I draft a player at 18 and 21 is coming up and they have only averaged 10. That's right. They've only averaged 10 points and I'm like well He's turning a corner, right? So now I'm paying for what I think it's gonna be
So now I'm saying all right
Five year 50. Yep, even though he had on... Hand on potential. Even though he doesn't...
So I'm going to give him
five-year 50, right?
That right there
established a pay grade.
So now players who have
real stats get to say,
well, he got five-year 50.
I'm worth at least 80.
Five-year 80.
Yo, I'm with you on this.
Trust me.
But that's what it is.
You need to...
Y'all need...
Like, the fight should be let the younger girls come in.
Listen, there's going to be heads cut off.
I'm sorry.
There's going to be choppies.
There's going to be chops.
But come in and hoop and compete.
It's something I've had to do for six years.
Come in every year and come in, compete, and earn a spot because I've never been guaranteed one.
So I'm with you because I've done it.
I've had to do it every year in my career.
I was a first-round draft pick,
and I had to come in every year and earn my spot.
That's still bad.
So, Lexi, you talk about being a first-round pick.
We have your draft day swag.
Ooh, let's see.
Hey!
Hey!
But, Lexi, we also have...
Yeah, they don't see that.
Yeah, that's the-
Yeah.
Aw, she's so cute.
Lexi, we also have some breaking news.
Yeah.
That we alluded to earlier in the show, but-
Uh-oh.
Courtesy of Lexi Brown, go ahead.
Okay, well, y'all heard me talking about how I've never had a contract.
I just signed one yesterday, guaranteed.
Whoo!
Two more years in LA.
Well, three counting this one, so.
Legs.
I ain't going nowhere, guys.
Legs.
Hey.
I'm here to stay.
Hey, Applebee's on you.
Applebee's on Betsy.
Got that bag, huh? Ahi. Got that bag, huh?
She got that bag, huh?
Applebee's on Lexi.
This is $3.75.
God damn.
You're a big reader.
Where is that?
Yeah.
I'm just kidding.
That's it.
That's it.
Come on, man.
I just said they got Lexi for a whole thing.
Oh, shit.
Boy, they be doing it.
Well, shut up!
They be doing it all wrong.
Oh, my God.
I'm doing a lot.
Gil, that's Lexi Hilarion.
My nigga, like, you can't do that.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying, like, I'm like.
Trust me.
I'm like the first round.
Trust me.
Hey, trust me.
I'm here.
I'm good.
I'm doing this.
I'm moving to Woodland Hills now.
So I'm doing this show.
They said even the second round only makes, what, 10 grand less than makes what 10 grand less than like I'm like, whoa, that is crazy
Yeah, but again at that point it really don't matter where you get picked is about the team at this point
Yeah, congratulations Lexi on coming to be will be a spark game
In underdog fantasy the official la spark sweet is that about underdog fantasy Gil?
I will pay there Gil I will be there
I will be there get us the tunnel squeeze. Do you have the power get us some motion? We could park right?
Let's keep this thing moving
You know like I said cast fans have been bitching at us for quite a while now tagging us in numerous tweets post wait
The cat is LeBron over there? No.
No, I'm just saying
we only
really knew the Cavs existed
because LeBron got drafted
after that. I'm just being honest.
Nobody was a Cavs fan. Mark Price,
thank you. Brad Doherty,
come on. Elo!
Y'all was real fans then, huh?
Basketball fans.
How many Mark Price jerseys did you have?
And Georgia Tech
I was a I'm a connoisseur tomorrow, Cavs, the uniforms, I think Terrell put in there. The old school one.
He from my house.
I didn't have not one TV game
until LeBron got there.
Larry Nance.
They're playing well right now.
They're playing very well right now.
Cavs have emerged
as one of the best stories
in the league.
They're 14-1
in their last 15 games,
which I believe
is the longest streak
without LeBron in Cavs
franchises.
Like I say, you got to report news and include LeBron.
Without LeBron is the longest streak ever.
He didn't play for the Cavs.
I think it matches the streak when he was there.
I'm just pointing out information.
Statman, as they call it.
They've won six straight games, passed the Bucs for second in the East.
Donovan Mitchell has been a big part of the Cavs' success doing legendary stuff like this.
Gil, I don't know if you caught this.
Such a big part of that.
Recently.
Oh.
Greatest part of that.
Okay.
As Mitchell now.
It's great to see Black History Month.
Oh, my God.
To himself.
Do you believe that?
Donovan Mitchell.
Oh.
Over there.
Has given the Cavaliers an 18-point lead.
They couldn't do nothing with that, Gil.
Happy Black History Month on behalf of Donovan Mitchell. So, during the streak. I've seen you quite a few times this't do nothing with that, Gil. Happy Black History Month.
On behalf of Donovan Mitchell.
So during the streak...
I've seen you quite a few times this season.
No, that was different.
I mean, just the thought process.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The thought process of that was...
That's just different.
I ain't got nowhere to go.
Yeah, I ain't got nowhere to go, and I don't want to pass.
I don't want to pass at none of y'all.
All right.
So here go the backboard.
They're going to pass at me, y'all.
So it's the backboard that goes.
Pass it to me.
So during the streak, Spiders averaging close to 29 points a game, They're going to backboard. They're going to backboard. I'm not casting y'all, so it's the backboard it goes.
So during the streak, Spiders averaging close to 29 points a game,
seven assists, five rebounds, shooting close to 50% from the field,
36% from three.
Gil, please don't hate.
Be mindful.
We have Cavs fans watching.
Are the Cavs for real or Fugazi?
Second in the East right now.
Creeping on a come up.
I mean, you know, for what, a year, last
year? I mean, they've played well.
Since Donovan's been there, they've played
like a team. They have all the
ingredients to be a good
team, right?
They play together. They like each other.
They still need a couple more pieces
to really compete, like, especially
in the playoffs.
Your two best players are six foot.
Both of them are the same actual player.
So when you start getting isolation plays and they start picking on you, you can't hide neither one of them.
Garland and Mitchell are both the same type of guys.
Garland's more of the PG style, but when somebody like Boston goes big, and you got Jaden Brown
and Tatum at the one-two, what do you do there?
Because you guys have to guard them now.
Depending on who they match up with, they can get out of that first round. But for the most part, they don't have enough firepower to go further than the second.
Yeah.
I mean, I think they would just have to over-scheme defensively,
which that can take away from their offense, which is what they're thriving on,
considering that Mitchell and Garland are considered undersized.
When did they lose last year?
First round to the Knicks.
But they had a really decent season last season as well.
They got that year of experience under their belt in the playoffs,
which I think will be helpful.
But yeah, I agree with Gil.
They need to get a little bigger.
Or they'll just over scheme and defensively lock it up being undersized.
So you talk about getting that playoff experience.
Jared Allen last year, or on that first round exit to the Knicks last year,
said, even for me, the lights were brighter than expected.
I think they're used to those.
Turn them down! Turn them down!
Those Ohio lights.
Too bright! Too bright!
Shout out to the Cavs for real, Fugazi.
I think, just like the Knicks, they turned in the corner.
It takes a lot of wear and tear on the ego and the pride of a team
that's expected to do such that and don't really deliver
compared to a team that's not expected to do anything
and start to show progression.
And I think with both the Knicks and the Cavs,
you look at where they were and where they came.
And now you look at Donovan Mitchell doing what he's doing 15 games. No Garland
Mm-hmm, right
No, Mobley
So you just got Allen and Mitchell cooking smaller play a small ball
They're doing what they need to do now you add those two other pieces even if they're playing two guards as he's six three
Garland six to'2", 6'1 1⁄2". It really doesn't matter about the size
and the scheme between Mobley and Allen. They're two great defensive players, right? And so it's
about them facing a Philadelphia 76ers team where you have to do something with Embiid. You could
get both of them in foul trouble. That's their they, that's their only real hurdle.
Everybody else,
even with the Knicks last year,
that was a toss-up.
It was a toss-up series,
and they just didn't show up because, like you said,
Allen showed up,
he's like,
ugh,
it's a little bit brighter
than I thought.
Turn him off!
You get another year of,
that ain't going to be
no excuse this time, Jared.
Like, we're paying you,
we're paying Evan,
we're paying Garland, and we're definitely paying Mitchell. We need y'all to no excuse this time, Jared. Like, we're paying you. We're paying Evan. We're paying Garland.
And we're definitely paying Mitchell.
We need y'all to show up this time.
Take us over the hump.
And I think Donovan has taken a leadership role now,
knowing that Garland is out for 15 games,
and he's shown,
I'm ready to show the world that I'm a star.
Right?
And that I can be,
and I think that I am a superstar.
I always looked at him as little D-Wade,
especially in Utah.
And the way that he plays in Cleveland.
I forgot he was in Utah.
He changed the dynamic of,
you know, he changed the dynamic
of how he actually plays the game
in somewhat of a bigger market
because LeBron put a stamp on it
as up in the market value
But if he wants to go somewhere else
He doesn't have to prove that he can take the team somewhere else other than the first-round a said so if Nick's verse them
Both this year both healthy both healthy. Oh, it's awesome seven. It's going seven
It's going so right, playoff started today.
Cavs will be facing the Magic at the
seventh seed. They win. And then they'd have
the winner of the Bucs-Pacers.
Bucs-Pacers in the second round,
which... So that's what I said.
The problem... No.
Not in the playoffs. Not the Bucs. The problem
with the... They've been smacking them this year.
They've been smacking them.
I mean, Suns...
The 4-1 against the Bucs this year.
Yeah, Suns smacked everybody.
They love her.
Regular season, though.
Suns smacked everybody during regular season, too.
When playoffs came, they got smacked up themselves.
Like, the regular season has nothing to do.
It don't matter.
Because the regular season, this happens.
They get this book, and this book tells you everything a coach can and can't do,
everything a player can and can't do.
So when the Knicks look at this book,
they're gonna say, all right, Donovan Mitchell
loves going left, all his step backs going left,
all his jumping ability is left,
all his shots, his creativity goes left.
If you push him to his right hand,
he can't jump off his left leg,
he can't step back off his left leg.
Right, you, I I have it's called scatter
I have all this scouting reports on where we're playing this game
When you look at the game and how it's being played and they're sitting there pushing him to his strong hand
Knowing his strong hand is his weak hand in this in this this realm
There's a reason
Right when we seen um, what was his name?
Ricky Rubio, right?
When we watched the Ricky Rubio versus James Harden and Ricky Rubio was playing behind him
and everybody's like, what the fuck are you doing?
Someone schemed that and thought that was a great idea.
I remember that.
He's playing behind him
because he's trying to push him to a certain way
because of the scheme.
You're trying to take away the step back.
Yeah, you're trying to take away the step back
not realizing
just push him left. Just push him
to his left hand and make him try to
do the left hand floater. He's a right
hand player who wants to get back
to this side. That's how he shoots. Right.
Left, right. If you want me to just
drive, push me right.
Right. Yep.
If you want me to use my bag, push me
to my weak hand because that's where the
hezi, the crossovers come from, the step backs, the side steps, the pull ups, that's going
left.
Right?
Me going right, shit, all I'm going is all the way to the load the fuck up, take this
charge, shit, I can't do a runner, so shit.
Push them right.
Know your personnel.
Know your personnel.
So how far can the Cavs go in the east with Donovan Mitchell?
Is there one option? Yeah, I just I just told you okay. Tell me again
I said second round second round depending on who they play first round exit
Best case scenario second round because the second round they're gonna be playing some type of juggernaut. Mm-hmm. Yeah
Yeah, I agree the bus could be the Pacers right now
So you like me get near just as a sneaky team as New York like we can get to the second round
Depending on who they play and how they play when they play. Yes. So give me a Cavs Bucks
Let's say they meet in the second round. Everybody's't forget about that. Don't forget about that.
Forgot about the Docs.
See it?
As much as I wanted to say 4-1,
I'm going to turn it into 4-3-7 game series.
It's the Bucs.
You're like, oh, it's the Bucs.
The Bucs.
The Bucs go out to a 3-1 lead.
That's even more nerve-wracking.
Yeah, you'd be sitting there like...
You know how bad... Think about it.
That just lets you know how bad it is.
When they go up 3-1...
Everyone's like...
Everyone's like, oh, yeah, this is...
It's better off 2-2.
It's better off 2-2.
We're better off being down.
It's not like, yeah, this game is...
This series is over.
You'd be like, oh, yeah.
It is not.
So, speaking of the cab Donovan Mitchell was asked an interesting question
Okay, we don't have it
All good. We'll keep it moving. So I'll just ask you guys a question
We do rather take five hundred thousand dollars or flip a coin for five million dollars
Am I not in the NBA answering this question?
You are Donovan Mitchell in the year 2024.
I'm flipping the coin for sure.
See, what's funny is Isaac Okoro just said he would take the $500,000.
$500,000, easy.
All I know is I'm taking that $500,000 and I'm walking out.
All right, now we know it.
You'd take the $500,000?
I'd take $500,000.
Now we know the pay difference.
We just figured it out right here how the NCC tournament works.
You have a 50% chance of making five,
what is it, five million?
Five mil.
I'm flipping the coin.
I'm sorry, I'm flipping the coin.
He's smart.
So would you rather take 500,000,
you just get that bread,
or flip a coin,
50% chance of getting five million?
He's smart.
You are rich, though.
Be mindful.
50% chance, yo. But a 50% chance, the odds are rich though. Be mindful. 50% chance, Joe.
But a 50% chance,
the odds are in your favor.
No.
Okay, this is more of a deeper,
it's a deeper thing for an athlete, right?
So if we went through all our teammates
and they asked every single teammate
what they would do,
everyone who says 500,000, We went through all our teammates and they asked every single teammate what they would do
everyone who says 500,000 I
Probably won't pass the ball
Here's no here's why
You're being safe. Yes
So scared to take your fucking risk. You're scared to take the risk being I'm smart
I know you're scared. You've been scared.
Like...
Scared of losing
of something
that I have no control over?
Something losing
that you don't have.
You don't have it.
You don't got it anyway.
You don't have it.
You don't have it.
You lose nothing.
We're losing.
You lose nothing.
I'm losing.
But I am losing
the $500,000.
You're losing.
You don't have it.
No, you don't have it.
You don't have it yet.
But you can have it.
It's the same as the $5 million.
You're just getting more money. No. Think about it. But you can have it. I can have it. It's the same as the five million.
You're just getting more money.
No.
No.
Think about it.
That's what I'm saying.
Think about it as real deep- I am.
Risk takers.
Right now, before I answer the question, you don't have nothing.
Nothing.
So I say take 500 or five million, right?
But you have to flip a coin.
You don't have neither one of them yet.
So the fact that you won't flip a coin-
It's a trick. To get the five million will tell an aggressive
mind that you're- Smart.
No. Intelligent.
No, that you're even kill. So if I pass you the ball and it's three seconds on the
clock, your mind says, don't shoot it because- Swing it.
Swing it. Swing, swing. It becomes, that's how we think. Yes. But I'm saying swing it swing swing it becomes that's how we
that's how we think yes but I'm
saying I'm telling you that's how we think we
were I'm taking the shot
but wait okay think about it
this way think about it this way then Lex
if I'm the guy with the money and I'm asking
you the question I'm like all right would
you like to take the 500
or risk getting the
5 million I'm hoping that you take the 500 or risk getting the 5 million, I'm hoping that you take the 500.
Right.
Because if you get the 5 mil, that's more of a hit for me.
Right.
If I give you this, it's like, whew, I'm glad another one.
Yeah.
Another one, dummy.
Yeah.
But why not take the 500?
If you're talking about risk, get in the dope game and turn
it into five mil?
Oh my fucking God.
Exactly.
Oh yeah.
Let me go take the 500,000 and then risk going to jail because I got to break this down day
after day after day after day after day.
I got to find niggas to sell it for me.
I got to set up something.
I'm going to spend the whole 500 before I even started selling the dope.
What you talking about?
That's what I'm saying.
It's a bad investment.
All right.
I'm just curious.
It's a mind game. It's a mind game. I'm going to spend the whole 500 before I even started selling the dope.
What are you talking about?
That's what I'm saying.
It's a bad investment.
It's more of a mental thing between who's mentally aggressive and who's passive.
It's bigger than 500 to 5 million.
It's this trick, too.
You know how they have game show, and they say, all right, pick one, two, or three.
And then you pick one. And then they say, all right, we're going to remove three.
Do you still want to go with one or two?
Deal or no deal.
Deal or no deal, right?
It makes you want to...
Then you open that suitcase with fucking one cent in it.
No, no, no, think about it.
Before I had a 33% chance of winning, right?
When I picked my original one you removed one
Now I have a 50 50 percent chance to pick one now. I got to reconsider
See me being safe and staying with like oh my god. I might have picked the right way
Do you know what you don't know what you don't know what's in it? Well, that's different than what he asked
No, you know what I'm saying, but no, but what I'm saying is it's still mentally.
You know, you can get $5 million.
It's still a mental game. But I also know I cannot get $5 million.
But you don't have it before I ask you the question anyway.
Exactly.
You have nothing.
So Donovan Mitchell, the guy with the glasses, sitting there like, excuse me?
That's a stupid question.
I'm going to take the $5 million.
He's rich.
He's not even thinking about being rich.
He's thinking about the odds.
No, who said?
Am I an NBA player?
He said, am I? You know why? No, because he's thinking about how much money he has. did. He's thinking about the odds. No, he said, am I an NBA player? He said, am I?
No, no, no.
No, because he's thinking
about how much money he has.
You're Donovan Mitchell
in 2024.
Because he doesn't need it.
He doesn't need the 500.
Exactly, but if you said no,
you'd have nothing.
That's what he said.
That was the other scenario.
And his answer might have changed.
No, but that was
the other scenario they gave.
They said, he's like,
no, you're Donovan Mitchell
right now in 2024.
Right.
You're not,
you don't have no,
you're you.
You're you. Without NBA. Oh, five million. No, Donovan Mitchell right now in 2024. Right. You're not, you don't have no, you're you. You're you.
Without NBA.
Oh, five million.
No.
Donovan Mitchell in 2024 is a rich man.
Now, if you ask every, if you.
Donovan Mitchell in 2024 is richest.
Now, if you ask all the top players, right, if you ask all the top players,
Jim doing it, all your aggressive minds, the Kyries, the Lucas, Giannis,
right, Giannis might take 500 just to say he's going to take it.
But you take all the Jimmy Butlers, all of them, they're going to take 5 million.
The ones who think, they're thinking like, so wait a minute.
I'm too aggressive.
They're all rich.
Michael Jordan.
They're all rich already.
This is fun.
Play money.
But that's the problem.
An athlete already took the risk.
When you were broke, you took the the risk now you want to play a save
It's like it's like someone is college basketball. I got up 20 points in the first half playing aggressive as fuck
Right, you've seen it. You've probably done it
Playing aggressive as fuck 20 then when we get up
Let's run offense guys. We're gonna five out five out now
We're playing scared basketball
when the other team has still got the engine on
and they run the score down and you don't know
what the fuck happened. We played happen
because you became safe.
Scary. Your fans, scary
basketball. Scared money don't make no money.
Scared money don't make
money. I would like Donovan to be re-asked
this question, but he is broke.
Kobe! Kobe! I'll answer it. I'll answer it.ed this question, but he is broke. Kobe!
Kobe!
I'll answer it. I'll answer it.
Let me answer it.
I'm broke right now.
Let me answer it for him.
Let's fuck Donovan.
Ask me, nigga.
Code million.
500,000, make a three.
I'm Harvey Dent on the ass.
I'm going to make a three, but flipping a coin?
Harvey Dent.
Harvey Dent.
Flip that motherfucker. Hey, hey, hey. But flipping a coin Harvey Dent Harvey Dent
Hey, hey, hey if his head you die if his tails you leave you live
Harvey Dent which one you want you want to live you want to die mamba mamba mentality you better hope it Hey, but look, you know, you know the difference between Harvey Dent. It was a two-sided coin
You mean let me tell you what's going to happen?
You die anyway.
I'm going to tell you, this is what happens in real life if this actually was a real thing.
I'm going to go to you, you're going to say, I'm going to take the 500.
I'm going to give you the 500.
And I'm going to say, just flip the coin for shits and giggles.
Just for shits and giggles.
What would you take?
And then you're like, heads.
And then it lands on heads.
Mentally, you fucked up now. Because you're like, it didn't lives on it lands on his mentally you fucked up now
Now you don't give a fuck about your five hundred thousand because now you flipped five million So that's what I would do mentally to get you now the five hundred that you picked
You don't even enjoy it anymore because you just flip and you got it, but you got it
I wouldn't be quite as sad if I had $500K to walk with.
It'd be a $4.5 million.
The house you could have got compared to the money you got to spend that $500K on.
Bro, I'm just trying to get the direct deposit from Underdog Fantasy still, so I'll take that $500.
Because that's how the game works.
I'm taking the five.
Hell yeah.
Give me that.
I'm taking the five.
Go.
You want to go first? I go first?
Go first. What was it? Tell me which one lands on what? You pick
Gil, heads or tails. Huh?
I was about to believe tails.
Heads you win, tails you lose.
Heads on the five million.
God damn.
He got it?
Oh no, he went under the sun.
It would.
It would go down there. It went under the sign. It would. It would go down there.
What does it say?
It went under the sign.
You got to re-flip it.
We'll re-flip it.
Re-flip it.
Give it a slip, $100 bill.
Oh, my god.
All right.
Boom, give me my $5 million, baby.
What is it?
What is it?
$5 million, lady.
$5 million, girl. Scam money on me, honey. Where you want to go? I Now you know
Chat what we doing? Okay. Okay
I'm going back home I'm gonna call girl. Hey girl
I probably feel better than Gil still now give me give me the
Flip the turn into
You don't fucking deserve don't get that nigga no money now go ahead give me the password to the safe so I can go put that
nickel back
Man this nigga won in law see you beat me or something. Yeah, I'm gonna take
I'm gonna take it every time man. Hey listen
Hey, my teacher told me once and you know, you know how in school someone's like I was like he did it
That's why I did it. It was like well, so if he jumped off the bridge, would you if he made it?
Yeah, fuck
If he jumped off and lived yes
He died That's a fucking great answer. If he died. That's a fucking great answer. Right. That's all I have to do. Nah, no thank you.
Did he die?
Did he die, though?
If I had a little kid asking a teacher that, oh, my God, the teacher would be pissed.
You already know your ass was in detention.
I busted my head doing that.
Almost died because I was doing back flips off of the second floor into the pool.
Right.
And I did it the first time.
And then the girl was like, I didn't get to see it.
Do it again.
Yes, sir.
Bing.
That's what we call
a work-related injury.
Yep.
That is.
So I'm like,
so when a girl be like,
yo, you lost your hair?
Nah, I bust my head
trying to impress a girl
like a back flip.
And when I got out
of the hospital,
back at it.
Just got to jump
a little further.
Y'all worked with me
for several years and I always had that question, now I know.
Alright, you're on that Stephen A level. But fresh off being named an All-Star and winning
Western Conference Player of the Week, Kawhi continued his hot streak on Monday in
Atlanta. And we got some Harden too. So Kawhi, let's talk about Kawhi. Kawhi dropped 36 on the Hawks. It was a six-strike game with 25 points.
Harden also added 30-10.
Dimes and seven rebounds.
Late in the game, Harden got the buckets going.
The beard is back.
Kawhi playing.
Little dude.
Little boy.
Simple but effective.
And Harden hit this four-point play on Trae Young.
Just be doing it.
I love it.
Just so y'all know, you know they practice.
He practiced it exactly just like that.
The and one.
That's when people are like, yo, how you keep making these difficult shots?
Because they sit and practice like they're getting hit every single time.
Bad passes, getting hit, all that.
So Clippers are 26-5 since December 1st.
Won nine of their last ten games.
Only a half game out of first in the West.
Gilbert Arenas, does anybody in the West want smoke with the Clippers in the playoffs?
I mean, they're a dangerous team.
You know, when we talked about that lineup being put together, you know, we can all see what the potential would be, the capability of them.
You know, the only question was, can they play together, right?
And time has shown that, you know, they are sacrificing for each other and they are trying to win.
The only team that can give them problems would be Denver, cuz they're gonna try to
beat them up down low, which they did in the bubble, right? We're going to use Jokic to try to see if we can pound it down low
and, you know, actually see if we can slow this game down.
Other than that, man, the way they're clicking with each other,
it's going to be hard.
What's the Timberwolves record against the Clippers right now?
Oh, head-to-head?
Yeah.
Let me see.
I think the Clippers are going to finish first in the West.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let me see. I think the Clippers are gonna finish first in the West Yeah, yeah
So I think their first round will be a easy
series
Man, the first round is gonna be probably goddamn Lakers or some shit shit. I don't like the matchup with
Clippers Nuggets because it's obvious
And I think Ty Lue already kind of figured out the matchup for that just to go small
They face each other one time.
Timberwolves won that game.
Won that game.
I like the Timberwolves matchup.
January 14th.
January 14th.
So recent.
I like the Timberwolves matchup better than I like the Nuggets.
Even though it's, like I said, an obvious pick.
You say, all right, the Nuggets look like they're the better matchup.
But I look at the three-headed monster for the Clippers
and then the lack of defense for the Nuggets in their front three.
They're not going to be able to guard those three guys.
And then Zubac, you know, he ain't going to be able to guard Joker.
But at the same time, if you play without fouling, make it tough for them.
It's a long night for Denver if that's the case, right?
But then you got the Timberwolves.
Now, when you can't put pressure on the guard play of the Clippers
and make them play defense and wear them down,
even though they got two great defenders,
I think the Timberwolves have a better chance
because of Ant-Man's ability to do what he does,
and they are going to force them into schemes
that's going to leave Cat more open and Rudy more open,
which is their two-headed monster,
where Rudy can come in and get 15 and 17
Cat can go off and shoot three space in the floor. That's something they don't have an answer for for the Clippers
So I think that that's something that to me is a better matchup and I still like Minnesota coming out number one
But even though the Clippers are playing well everybody else in the West need to step up. I think that that's the main thing, is they're allowing the Clippers and the ability
to have that roster to scare the fuck out of everybody in the West, because they're
playing well. But it's like, step the fuck up, guys. Come up to the challenge, because
they're not going to stop what they're doing. They're going to go all the way to the edge.
But it's like, what are the Lakers going to do? What are Sacramento going to do? We see the Golden State, they crashing. But what are the Suns going to do? Are the
Suns going to actually step up to the fucking plate and be a big three like we thought you
were going to be?
So funny that you mentioned the Suns, and obviously we're only in the hypothetical stage
right now, but if the playoff started today, the number three seed Clippers would face
the number six seed Suns.
Yeah.
We talked about turning up the playoffs for last year.
That's a great matchup.
A lot of buckets.
Yeah, but if I'm Clippers or I'm Suns,
the one team I do want to play is Minnesota.
Because you have Ant-Man, but your Ant-Man, we have three of those.
Yeah.
But at least we have one.
The other teams don't have it.
But that's what I'm saying.
You have Ant-Man.
When you're playing against us in the playoffs,
Kawhi is going to get calls over Ant-Man.
Paul George is going to get calls over Ant-Man.
And Harden will get calls over Ant-Man.
So the three of them is going to get the benefit of the doubt over Ant-Man.
He's young. He's is going to get the benefit of the doubt over Ant-Man. He's young.
He's not going to get the...
And then you have your point guard, Conley.
He's outmatched as a starter and off the bench.
With Russell, he's going to try to take advantage of that.
Ant-Man is going to even out his matchup.
Then your three is...
McDaniels?
No, who's the three?
For who, Timberwolves?
Yeah.
McDaniels.
McDaniels.
Yeah.
You're outmatched.
But that's forcing guard play,
which is what we want in our favor.
We want to make you all shoot jump shots.
That's all we do anyway.
So you're outmatched.
And then Karl-Anthony,
I mean, it's not like you post up,
so you're not going to really take advantage
of Kawhi Leonard
like you think you are, right?
But that may be because we can.
If we needed to take advantage of that, if we needed to,
if he chooses to, then that changes the dynamic
of how the Clippers actually guard it.
Are we giving up 60 points?
60 points to who?
To Paul Towne.
Carl, he has the ability to do that.
No, he had all them three though.
No, but he still has the ability to take the ball to the basket.
So yeah, so he has to drive to the basket on a great guard defender.
You're not fast.
You going against a Rudy type, yeah, makes it easy, but you're going against a guard,
so I'm going to sit under you.
What ends up happening is when, this is what happens with him, when you make Carl a post-up player, Ant-Man can't drive.
No, for sure.
So, because you have Rudy down there, too.
So, Rudy can't spread the force.
So, now you got two bigs down there.
Ant-Man can't shoot.
He can't get his shot off in the perimeter, which means space the floor.
I got a big offensive rebounder that if I do miss on the block, who's going to block him out weak side if I got the biggest guy on me?
If I got a smaller guy on me, it's mouse in the house.
I just need to be disciplined enough to continue this without forcing up jump shots and turning around doing little shit.
Back to the basket, mouse in the house.
Cat, go back to your original game that you played.
I wasn't as a...
And then lead with it.
He didn't have the jumper initially.
He was a big.
He established a jumper, which took him away from being a standard.
Now he don't want to go down.
He don't want to go down there.
That's what I'm saying.
Because now it's like, well, why?
Why?
Now we're like, look, this is why.
Why?
Because posting up was harder for him because he didn't have the advantage.
He has the advantage of the foot.
That's what I'm saying.
I got the advantage on the foot.
Same thing with Giannis. I have the advantage facing up versus me trying to post up
But when you had bigger guys to go up against you knew that your post game wasn't as polished to go up against those guys
Now I got Kawhi Leonard. I'm like, oh yeah, he ain't gonna guard me like they was guarding me cool
Yeah, but you ain't been doing that for five years now. You just ain't gonna inherit
You just ain't gonna inherit the post game. Because ain't no bigs in the league no more. Ain't no
bigs in the league that's going up against them anymore.
Steven Adams is probably the only motherfucker
that was really like, I'm not having
none of that shit today.
They're going to have to prioritize.
The high-low game would be amazing
if
Rudy was the post-up
guy. So Rudy's posting up
and he's the danger down there.
Now you have Towns.
They double, I can shoot this.
Right, right.
Now, is this just reverse?
Yes, obviously.
As I was saying, for Rudy, it would be doghouse offensive rebound.
Get it off the glass, right?
Which is more beneficial for them,
because we don't have to depend on him doing anything out of his element.
But stay under the rim, get everything off the glass.
We play big, we force them to adjust.
But you can't give them a style that they just don't have.
You can't make them do something they don't do.
That's the problem in the playoffs.
They don't do what you want them to do.
Right?
For them to take advantage of the Clippers and change the game, they don't do that, though.
Right? That's the only part. That's the part of the Clippers and change the game, they don't do that, though. That's the only part.
That's the part of the scouting report.
Like you said, that big book that the Finch is going to have to come in there and display to the team.
Hey, hey, hey, guys.
Look, I know we've been doing this well.
But this series, we're going to have to change some shit.
Again, that's prioritizing a certain style of play and a certain player.
So the coaches can give them the book.
But if the players don't care about the book, what's going to happen?
It's playoff basketball now, like you said.
I'm going to put in a whole bunch of plays you've never seen.
And we're going to do four down.
Regular season, though.
Regular season is regular season, right?
Playoff comes.
Yeah, it's different.
Now we got a whole new playbook, a whole new scheme.
Because everyone knows what we've been doing all season.
That's how we played the game.
They did this all season in the playoffs.
That's how we won in Chicago.
We changed our ball screen coverage completely.
Oh, defense.
Yeah, defensively.
Offensively, nothing much changed,
but we did shift our offense a little bit
to benefit one player more than in the regular season but our defensive
schemes we've changed everything so imagine as a coach and a team that you'd be able to adjust on
the fly like that it makes you a good team and a good coach where i can come in and say you know
what they're going to expect us to do what we've been doing we are playing a different team this
series we're going to change it up completely. They're used to this. They're going
to expect us to go small
and match up with them. Let's stay
big for the first two games
and see what happens.
Now, if we go down 1-0,
and they're like, all right, the second game, you think we had a chance to
win that first game if we keep doing this?
Let's try it again. Now, let's make a couple adjustments,
come back, and if we can get
this game, we like this.
But if we don't, oh, shit, we need to 2-0.
Man, that's series over.
Seriously, you know what I'm saying?
2-0 is like, damn, fuck.
But if we can steal one, trying to go back to our original format,
you know what I'm saying?
You lose two games at home.
Yeah, you lose two games at home, it's over.
Yeah.
But if it's on the road, you know what I'm saying,
it's like, all right, it's expected.
Okay, we can figure it out. Yeah, 2-0 at home is great. It's different, yeah the road, you know what I'm saying, it's like, all right, it's expected. It's expected.
Yeah, 2-0 at home is great.
It's different, yeah.
Gil, I know you're a big fan of Ty Lue.
Do you think Ty Lue should be a Coach of the Year candidate?
Obviously, people could say, oh, look at this roster.
Anybody could do it.
But he had to figure this out on the fly.
Yeah, I mean, you know, the Coach of the Year is just, you know,
it shouldn't have nothing to do with record in a sense. The things that were put on you, your record, I mean your schedule, the things that was
going on, trades, this player, this player coming in, how many games was missed, how
did your team, you lost your best player, you still got wins, right? That, right? Like the coach for the Cleveland Cavaliers,
that is amazing, right? That should be a candidate for coach of the year himself because you're
missing your second best player. You're missing your third option. These two guys are out,
Mobley's out, Garland's out. And you're still racking up wins.
That is a great coach, right? Everything that's coming at you, you're still finding ways to win.
That's a great coach, right? That should be in that category of coach of the year,
just like Ty Lue. So yeah, I think with some of the elements that's been pushed his way, but for the most part, his talent alone of you had to put it on a curve, right?
You know you have four bona fide Hall of Famers guaranteed when they retire so you don't get to benefit of the doubt
You bigger staff and clean yeah, you're going 15 you going 15 in a row you were like, yeah
Yeah, that's what you know. You got a town bigger staff you went 15 in a row with that roster
That's like wait a minute
I think I think to me is two different metrics because Cheryl, you know
She was saying about how when she played on that USA team
It was the hardest thing she had to do to adjust because we're playing with a bunch of great players
And it's like how do we all mesh right?
So for Ty Lue to mitigate all those abilities and to mesh them into
a winning attitude without having to break apart what they're used to doing, which is
having the ball and iso ball and figuring out how to actually please the egos. And for
Russ to buy into it, for PG to wake up and say, I'm on my bully shit and actually prove
it. For Kawhi not to have to say anything, but still being an MVP
caliber type of player. James Harden coming in and not losing a step at all when it comes to
after I adjust, I can go back to being me. So you look at JB, he don't have none of those
criterias of four Hall of Famers, X, Y, Z. He's just mitigating strategy, what you have to deal with with injury,
and structure. We're going to play hard. We're going to play together. We're going to come here,
and we're going to do what we need to do to win and be in every game. And if we can allow our
superstar or our star to come in here and take us over the top at the end, we can win us a bunch
of games. We can beat anybody. Which situation is the harder coaching situation?
Bigger staff is because he has to rely more on his schemes.
Yep.
His schemes, you know, sub rotations, right? His players hitting shots at the right time.
Ty Lue, his biggest thing would be just ego management.
Yep.
Right?
You know, the talent itself, putting him in a situation to be successful.
You know, with him, it's like, well, if one guy's off or one player has attitude,
I still got three of them.
Yep.
Right?
You know, bigger staff, if Donovan Mitchell doesn't play well,
our chances of winning at this point is not going to happen.
So there's two different things that they're doing, right?
One is ego.
Like he has to make sure everyone's ego.
Hey, how you feeling?
Oh, you good?
Okay, Kawhi's fine.
PG, everything good?
The play is calling, right?
Russ, we good?
Okay.
Right?
So his game is a lot different mentally than Bickerstaff's.
So, you know, that's why I said they're both here.
But, you know, if they finish with the same record I will give it to bigger staff because there's no
way you should be you there's no way with the lineup he has and a team he has
he should be too you know period and that goes there's no fun okay see your
Minnesota coach in this coach of the year conversation because they're so
young so Dagnall is currently leading the Coach of the Year odds,
followed by Chris Finch, Ty Lue, Rick Carlisle, and then J.B. Bickerstaff.
When you look at the rotations, right, when you talk about Bickerstaff,
his only issue would be, I got to keep Donovan on the floor.
Donovan, we got an agreement.
You can't get in foul trouble. You got to play defenseovan on the floor. Donovan, we got an agreement. You can't get in foul trouble.
You got to play defense without fouling. Jared, I need you to control the paint. I need you to rebound the ball. We need rebounds. These are the only two guys. Everybody else, fall the fucking
line. Trust my scheme. Trust the strategy. Make your shot. Right? So think about what he has.
It's a risk for him.
It's an actual investment.
He's like, yo,
I got to believe that these guys are going to buy in.
He's not going to get in foul trouble
because if you're not on the floor,
we have no chance of winning.
The other guys,
you got three, four, five different players
that can actually help you stay in the game.
Right?
And then, you know,
between SGA, Chet, Giddy, Dort, all these guys can play.
Williams, they can play.
And then you look at Ty Lue and them, it's like you're just mitigating egos.
You don't really have a lot of coaching that you have to do.
All right?
So I think, to Gil's point, JB would be the frontrunner for that
because Garland's not there, Mobley's not there,
which is his other
two-headed monster, that he wouldn't have as much stress to deal with based on, Donovan,
I need to keep you on the floor at all times. Or if Donovan got in foul trouble, Garland,
all right, it's time for you to show up, take over. So these are things that you got to take
into consideration. So we asked the chat, should people fear the Clippers?
Should teams fear the Clippers in the playoffs?
73% said yes, 27% said no.
Let's move to the east, gotta talk about Dame.
Despite being named an All-Star starter,
Damian Lillard has some growing pains figuring out his role with the Bucks.
During a recent interview with Yahoo Sports, Dame talked about making the transition
from Portland to Milwaukee and the issues he's dealing with off the court. So Dame said the
following, as much as I love basketball and I love my job, I don't care about it more than I care
about my kids. Of course, you carry it with you. People say when I hoop, I ain't thinking about
nothing, but I'm not 21. I got
three kids, I'm tight with my family, and I'm going through a divorce. So is Dame making excuses
for his recent struggles, or is the struggle just that real as an NBA hooper?
I mean, I said it last time we talked about it, when people were like, should he be concerned
about Dame? And I was like, I mean, he got a lot going on outside of those lines personally. So for him to come out and say that, I mean, I think that's good because
like athletes are still people. There's humans. Like I know sometimes fans and media members
forget that. So I think it was good for him to come out and say that. It's not easy.
It's easy to forget because there's nothing in your, in a fan's life or media's
life that has anything to uproot them, right?
The only thing they got to do is go to Atlanta and do a show for a day and they get to come
back home.
They get to do the, like even a divorce, right?
Wherever you work, your place, you're there.
When you're talking about someone who built his life
in Portland, outside of Oakland, Portland,
they said he moved 50 people with him.
Family, kids, like he has his structure of
go home, kiss the kids.
There's a routine that keeps him balanced.
So when he leaves, and now all of it is left,
his whole identity is left, right?
He's back into his college day mentally,
where he hasn't been there for damn near 15 years.
Changes, it changes, you know, the home cooked meal,
the late night talks, the study and the playing with the kids,
the relaxation, right?
So now most of your life, you life, most of your day is,
what is the kids doing?
I mean, you know what I mean?
So it would put a lot of stress.
I can understand now that because of mentally
I went through the gun thing, right?
Which threw everything off mentally for me.
Right, waking up, not understanding that life has changed,
I'm not who I am, the media don't like me,
this don't like me, I'm throwing up every morning,
not knowing why I'm throwing up every morning.
It was a different adjustment for me.
I didn't have the same mentality I had
when I was in Washington.
And you don't know it until you go through it.
So I understand where Dame is mentally
because I had a taste of it.
Now if I'd never had a taste of it,
I'd be like, oh, now he's just making an excuse.
Man, this is nothing.
It's just like being on the road now.
You know, just like being on the road,
but when being on the road, you can FaceTime your kids.
Now you can FaceTime.
When you're going through the divorce,
there ain't no goddamn FaceTime.
Huh?
Hey, let me see my kids.
Shut up!
Where the money at?
Click.
Like, that's a whole different
You out there going to the game
You going to the game you get sir, think about it. I'm walking close. I'm walking off TNT y'all listen TNT
I'm walking on ESPN. I got served child support papers at halftime
That's crazy. Think about that. That's crazy. Hey, can I get an autograph?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Boom.
You have been served.
That's smart.
What is it?
Damn.
You sit there, you sit there.
Hey, coach, second half, hey, Gil.
Like, we, dog.
My whole face is, what?
What you talking about?
Gil, chill out, dog.
Did they see this on TV?
Dave is not playing terrible either.
By game standards.
It's just odd.
Yeah, that's what I said.
By game standards.
Not to act like he's just a bum now or anything like that.
Obviously, he's starting in the All-Star game.
He's done well.
But just figuring that out.
And people will point and say, well, hey, you asked for the trade.
You asked for this.
And that's fine.
But you don't know what the situation's going to be
like until you get there. Then you start having to deal with it.
And Milwaukee, a nice city.
But that's not where he wanted to be?
I mean, you know,
this is probably more just like
the stability of his household.
More than the city.
I mean, he's fucking Portland.
Nice city, Gil.
I ain't in Portland, but you get to sit in the house with your nice place
You get to sit in the house with your family base versus you sitting in the house by yourself now
They used to pump the gas for you there. We really frown upon you doing it yourself
You know I'm just like you know like we can't right you know if you used to you know if you used to all your
Works with you right you know you know you works helping you do this
It was keen playing massage on your legs and all, and then now all the work is gone.
You sitting there like, yo,
hey, y'all messing up my rotation.
Get on over here.
But there's always a solution.
What is the solution?
Ling Ling do my, just magical things.
I need all the work.
I just need one simple service.
You know what I'm saying?
Mental health is a real thing.
I get it.
But I come from an era of mental toughness being the hard hat.
Yeah.
Right?
So when you say, is it an excuse?
Should there be an excuse?
Do we all go through things that are out of our control, in our control, all of these different things, right?
So, Clay Thompson, did he have an excuse?
I don't think he had no excuse.
Who?
We're going to talk about Clay.
You got one now.
I mean, but just the fact that he may be going through something we don't know about.
You know, Kobe, when he had the situation, had to go through that. We've seen it. He didn't say
that there was an excuse. I'm going through this with my wife. Show up. Let's show out. Let's do
what we got to do. I mean, even for myself, when I was in college, 2005, my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer. Nobody knew it. It was the Duke game when I found out.
Immediately it formed an intestinal disorder for me and I was out four games. None of my
teammates visited. Nobody asked if I was okay. My mom came from remission to come take care of me.
So the things that I was going through personally, I couldn't let bother what we were trying to accomplish.
So when I got back on the court, it wasn't about an excuse.
It was about I came here to finish the job.
So for whoever is going through anything, the one thing I learned when I got to the league is this is a man's league.
This is a man's league. And it, to me, has stopped becoming that because everyone's starting to use this mental health thing
as the excuse to why things are not getting done.
Because if things can get done, we wouldn't even hear a quote.
We wouldn't say, well, I'm not performing because.
It's like at the end of the day, you're getting paid $250 million
and you should be performing regardless of what you're going through.
But is it unfair? be because motions do matter
Family does matter
But at the end of the day, we're here to play the game, right? So I
Just come from a different cloth that
Whatever you're going through
If you can't play don't play
If it's bothering you to the point that you need to step away from the game,
step away from the game.
Because we would understand that if it was that severe.
If not, let's fight through that shit.
Let's get in the gym and stay in the gym,
just like Gil said when he missed those free throws.
Man, I was in the gym every fucking day for 70 hours trying to get this shit,
make sure I never miss a free throw again
If you in the slump, you know, you got a shoot to get out of it
But I mean even just looking at Dame
I appreciate him for these being candid and open at this stage of his career and just talking about the situation you guys deal with
This Hooper when you young
You don't have a lot of shit going on right I mean obviously you always will in life but as you get older in life responsibility kids family all that other stuff
that's still just as meaningful to you as the game but how much do off-court issues impact
off-court performance like you said you found out your mom got diagnosed but if nobody knows nobody
cares yeah right so let's keep it that way. But I think we've always been trained to like
whatever's going on
in our life
like that's our personal shit.
I'm not telling no one.
It's like as a man
you say don't cry
and don't cry.
Like if whatever it is
bro suck it up
because we can use
that against you.
Now that we have
we have ammunition
to say he has a weak point.
We can see it.
He's going through something
so he's not all the way there. We can see that. He's going through something, so he's not all the way there.
We can see that.
So now that it's public, it's obvious that he has just identified something more is going on in his life that is bothering him.
So that becomes ammunition for a guy like me.
I don't give a fuck.
Oh, I'm definitely at you now, especially every matchup.
It's like, oh, you're at a weak point.
There is no empathy, sympathy for me at that point,
maybe off the court.
If I'm your mans, I'm going to call you and be like,
yo, let's go get some lunch.
Let's go, let's talk about this shit.
But look, when I'm on the floor against you,
you just showed me that you can cry.
I mean, you know, you're right.
You're right.
Like, we're gonna use whatever you're going through
against you, right?
That's just, that's the point of, you know,
mental health, right?
Mental health is a real thing.
We all go through it.
But for the most part,
the lions are never gonna show you their weakness
because the other lions don't give a fuck.
Right?
I don't give a shit what you're going through.
This is, hey, I couldn't beat you for the last five years,
and you got a weak point now?
I'm getting my get back.
All of a sudden?
I'm getting my get back, and that's how we think.
Right?
But if you look at, if we go to everyone's schedule
and look at a down point in their life,
we're looking at Klay Thompson
right now in real time when he retires and then he comes up and says, oh, I was going through
a real tough time. And he don't give us no date and say, yeah, this girl, this, this, this, this,
we can all say, ah, I know what year this was. And then you can go because his play matches it mentally.
When we say hey LeBron
James what happened to you
in the finals and you played bad
everybody can say you played bad.
No one's going to ever say
well do y'all know what the media was doing?
The media was saying his wife was sleeping
with this player and put this bullshit
out. Mentally
won't you think about what that would do to you?
Yep.
My wife, what?
You reading in the paper.
Now you got to sit there and ask questions.
You got to call this dude.
Is this real?
You're going to look at the stats and use the stats against him, but you're not going to use the media tactic that would happen.
Right, right.
You're not going to use the media tactic.
Oh, he couldn't beat the Boston Celtics
Well, how about look at the article that came out during that whole series to oh your teammate is sleeping with this
What are you mentally trying to do?
Like you're not gonna think that it's gonna affect the person to make him think about that
And you guys see all of that, right?
I think we see it in real time like we know we like we we sit here and watch it
We can sit there and try to play tough and this and this,
but it's the problem with it is when you're trying to deal with,
when you're trying to get under someone's skin, like Carmelo,
no matter how tough Carmelo is,
you say something that makes him second guess life.
You get a different reaction.
Fuck the game.
Like, what's up with this?
Is this real?
Like, it makes you think.
You're targeting something that I have.
It's a real feeling.
Then you say, like the LeBron point, that's what beat you.
Yeah.
That's what.
They didn't beat you.
No.
You beat you.
You let that thing dominate your mind and take your mind off the goal.
So if you can allow that to happen, we know you're not as Superman as we thought.
But no one's Superman.
Exactly.
Like, you know, Michael Jordan and his father.
I'm pretty sure if he was playing in real time when that happened, that would have affected his game.
Yep.
This is a real thing, right? I mean, you know, some people are,
we can pretend to shut it off and we're hurting inside.
Some people can say, all right, I'm gonna,
like Kobe, I'm gonna use whatever I'm going on outside
and perform on, that's a whole different breed of a dude.
Right, you know, that's rare.
He's rarity where he can turn his pain
and use the pain part onto this court and use
whatever his frustration is to take it out on his opponent.
But there's a difference when the person that I'm caring for that has my back is being questioned
that it's a whole different thing.
Absolutely. Parents is a whole different thing. Kids is a whole different thing. Absolutely. Parents is a whole different thing.
Kids is a whole different thing.
It's just hard.
And sometimes that we can try to hold it in,
like Andrew Wiggins, right?
He's missing games.
And they're talking about,
oh, it's your father.
Think about the shit that's going on.
Those two kids ain't yours.
Ain't yours.
That's ridiculous.
But think about the story
He is dealing with his father's situation right his father's situation now. He wakes up and reads those two kids
Those two kids might not be yours. What do you think runs through his brain at that time?
I look right at my what I had, you know, he was you sitting there like babe what like now you making him second-guess his
Like he's the reason he's suspended, I mean, not missing,
is because of this, right?
Up in heart's father.
Now you throw this in.
Now he has to look and Google
and I got to check my kid's blood
to see if this is a real thing?
But at what point do you have to step in
to advocate for yourself?
So stuff like that does not happen.
But can you do that?
Yes, because you want to be a private person,
which I think that's why when Dame is coming out
saying these things, everyone's kind of like,
oh shit, because Dame is a relatively private person
when it comes to stuff like this.
But when you allow people to sit and just like,
just make, I mean, it happened to me when I was really sick.
They were saying all types of weird shit about me
not being around the team and being not at games and practices and stuff.
And I'm a private person, so I kind of just let that sit.
And I wouldn't change that approach at all.
But you've got to be a mentally fit person.
That's what I'm saying.
It's the resilience.
Yeah.
The perseverance and understanding that I know me well enough to know I can get through this.
Yeah.
And if I cannot, I'm not going to put myself in danger
and people around me in danger. So I'm going to step back and say, look, this is a little bit
too much. I'm overwhelmed with the fact that I miss my kids. I'm going through something that
I didn't think I would ever go through, which is a divorce. And if he's a real religious guy,
and he's like, death do us part, these are real vows that I, these are things that do wear on you. So you have to take a step back
and think about it, but you have a contract just like that vow, right? So you can break your
contract just like the vows were broken. Or you can step in and say, you know what? I'm not going
to let this break me because this is trying to break me and I'm not gonna let my kids see me broken
They're gonna see daddy is a superhero
Daddy is the guy that's gonna come through for them with a smile on his face every time
I'm gonna do whatever I got to do. And if that's winning championship to get my family back
Let's take that approach.
It's just altering perception of how you can just
mentally manage it.
But for the most part,
we're used to doing things a certain way
and we have our, what do we call it?
Superstition.
Yep.
Superstition might be my kids, kiss my kids, go to bed. Yes. have our what do we what do we call it superstition yeah right superstition
might be my kids kiss my kids go to bed yes you know so when you take away my
superstition now I'm vulnerable to you know so let's talk about clay a little
bit season has been a struggle for clay Thompson final year is deal with the
Warriors his basketball future is uncertain clay was benched for the final
seven minutes against the Nets Monday night, appeared visibly frustrated on the bench,
and after the game, he spoke on it.
How are you feeling right now?
I feel great, physically. Mentally, probably a little different story.
Such is life, you know?
When you say that, I mean, is it just shooting struggles?
Shooting, yeah, probably
myself. That stuff. What are they talking about? You ain't played to finish the game?
I got to finish the game, five of the finals. Who the fuck cares? Well, I haven't asked
that yet, but I will now. I said, I haven't asked it yet, but I have. Oh, you feel like
you about to. I'll answer it for you. I mean, you didn't post it yet, but I have. Oh, you feel like you about to.
I mean, you didn't post tonight.
That's obviously going to be a story.
I mean, that's all good.
Yeah, these guys play great.
They play great.
BP, Jonathan.
At the end of the day, we need to resolve.
Is this an adjustment period for you a little bit?
I mean, he's done it a few games, obviously.
Yeah.
Are you kidding me? No problem.
You know, one of the best players so I'll be honest with you so how hard is it
dealing with the reality that you're not the same player you used to be and it
seems like we're seeing this in real time with Clay throughout this season. He's shown flashes of He wanted to cry.
He wanted to cry.
That's the
emotion. I just want to know like what
I know reporters have to do their job
but I'm just like what is the benefit
of posting
a video like that of a player?
It's called
media. I know but I'm just like
we're sitting here talking about mental health and
being strong and but you like
But that's a part of why you got to have mental health because there's always an attempt to break you
Yeah, but every moment but just in defense Anthony Slater posted video a good dude. It's in his defense clay drops 50
I'm gonna be in there doing the same thing whatever the whatever the stories are that's what I'm trying to do, but there's a difference between analysts and player
player podcasting now, right a
Player would never have done this to clay. Yes, because we've been there before we would have never asked this
we would have never asked that we would have never went down those lines because our angle is not a narrative of
how you played and the negativity of it and that's why players don't like media we don't like talking
to media because you know that i know exactly how i feel yes i'm sitting on the bench you're
gonna ask me how i feel what am i supposed to say oh it fucking feels great yeah i'm clay thompson
you know i'm over here
bragging about my four rings and I came off the
bench. Oh my God, I feel so... Can't wait
for him to do it next game. Is that what I'm
supposed to say? Because if I say what I
really feel, what are you going
to write then?
Klay Thompson spazzes in the locker room. He throws
all of his coaches under the bus. He throws the players
under the bus because I had a real emotion.
So now I got to say some bullshit to not be...
It's called being politically correct.
Yeah, I got to be politic, yes.
As athletes always are.
We are always expected to give the politically correct answer
what's different here.
But this generation is known now to be okay
with being sensitive and emotional
and in the face of, let's just keep it real.
Yeah, I have a problem with this.
Now, if that conversation
happens off the camera,
it was like, no, I'm going to be real with you, bro.
There was a good question in there.
And I didn't answer it the way you think I should have.
But now I'm having a problem, for sure.
But, politically correct, we want to be
able to send a message to our fans,
to my teammates,
everything is okay. I'm good. Hey, look, we want to be able to send a message to our fans, to my teammates. Everything is okay.
I'm good.
Hey, look, we won.
We won.
I'm not going to say anything is wrong.
I can't.
I mean, asking him that after a win is odd.
It's not.
It's a test.
If they had lost, it would make a little bit more sense.
It's a test.
How selfish can you be?
Yeah.
How selfish really are you?
You know what?
That's what I'm saying.
You won.
It's like, you're asking me a selfish question hoping I give you something.
Yes.
For you to make a splash and get your name all over the media.
Media training.
Stupid.
That's what they taught you in college.
If you took the course and you listen, watch the trap questions.
Yeah, trap questions.
Think about what you answer.
Right after the game, in your locker room.
Now, as fans, you're watching.
If we're taught not to answer certain questions certain ways, the media standpoint on the stuff we say is what?
Fake then.
They're not giving media real questions, real answers, because we are supposed to say exactly
what you want to hear.
So that means when you're hearing your player say certain things, Joel Embiid, oh yeah,
I'm not after the MVP, you know, championship in the finals, yeah, I'm not after the MVP
Championship in the finals. Yeah, and then say oh yeah and be you you can only miss five more games Oh shit, let me go out there and play what I thought you talked about the finals at the MVP
God damn it then cuz you will be sitting down but no, that's not how you feel
But you know if you say something selfish, they're gonna run their their narrative around it. Knowing, God damn, if I told you you have to do seven
interviews in the next three hours to get this bonus,
bitch, you're going to be doing seven interviews,
you're going to do nine interviews to meet your quota.
Everybody's going to do it, right?
That's just human nature, but you're going to only
pick on me because I have to say something correct. You're allowed to be a dickhead, I'm not. That's just human nature. But you're going to only pick on me because I have to say something correct.
You're allowed to be a dickhead.
I'm not.
Yep.
Can you be a dickhead?
That's the problem.
You are not allowed.
Was that a professional question?
No.
Well, no, that's not a professional question.
How do you feel about not playing in the last tail end of the football quarter?
That's not a professional question.
See, that's media.
You're not a professional.
We just won the game.
We just won the game. That's a trap question. You're not a professional. Are we just won the game? We just we just won a game
That's a trap question gives a fuck hundred percent. Who gives a fucking by side man
I said I started to bench seven minutes. We won. We won period we won
It's the difference between media and a player. Yes a professional question is hey you guys won
How are you how you like the win boom boom boom keep it fucking moving?
Yes, don't make it a personal question when you know it's
trigger question. So no, in
our defense as players, that's not
professional at all. If I
ask you a question that has something to do
with, hey, I know you got laid off.
How you going to put your ring?
Yeah, yeah.
I know everybody
on your team, everybody on your team
kept their job, but not you.
So what are you going to do next?
You're going to sit there like, you fucking dickhead.
Well, unfortunately.
Motherfucker.
Unfortunately.
Let me ask Jalen Rose how he feels.
Hey, I know you just got fired, but fuck all that.
How does it feel that you don't have your job right now and they just hired someone else in your position?
He will have a politically correct answer.
No, it's just, no, you know, we're just going to work on some things and try to get.
And you say, all right, cameras off.
How do you feel?
Man, these mother what?
That's who they hired.
They had this, this, this.
That's his real answer.
And why would he have a politically correct answer?
Because he wants a job. I want a job.
Down the line. I want a job. I don't want to show them.
I have real problems with motherfuckers over there in the ESPN.
Fuck all of them.
You're not going to say that.
You know what?
Say it again.
But as journalists, you want a job too.
And sometimes as journalists, you got to ask the hard, difficult questions.
Now, if you see Clay bench for the last seven minutes, looking visibly upset on the bench
while the team is winning, you're going to ask him about that.
He can give whatever answer is won.
If you actually watched the game, you would be like, ah.
These are obvious things that not the fans want to know, it's the media wants to know.
That's the difference between a bad question.
On the same side though, now Klay dropped 16-11 dribbles, I'm going to ask you about
that, because that's what happened.
That's the storyline.
You know what?
They won't. But it can't always just be the good shit
is what I'm saying right now
it is
we won
why does there need to be a negative to the win
it's the obvious
don't state the obvious when you see it
because that's what I'm gonna say
I used to be an asshole with shit like that
I'm like was you watching the fucking game bro
obviously you see me over here looking like this, like this the whole
fucking time and we winning. I'm not
supposed to have this energy. But you
come in here and ask me, so why
was you so visibly, you look like it.
Yeah, but
on the same breath, if he would have just wrote an article
trying to get himself into your mind
over shot. That's different. I don't have
a reply. I don't have a reply.
But what I'm saying is
why are you writing
an article that has to do
with me being benched
for seven minutes?
Why can't you have
an article that the
Golden State Warriors won?
Bam.
Because you're a fan.
Whoever was playing
did a great job
in the last seven minutes.
Write about him.
Because you're a fan.
That's it.
I'd rather you write
about him and what he did
great in the last seven minutes.
He wants to get some shine.
He did great.
I ain't playing. He interviewed Kaminga. He did not a plan the interview could make up for it
But if you're a four-time champion, right the team is struggling this year you in the last year you do this is information
That people in from that's I'm saying no
It's not people want to know how you think it's easy for Draymond to know what you're about to say because he can come in
There and he realized oh, he's a dickhead. Yep, and I know he's gonna ask this so easy
Oh, so where you want to know that he got bitched every man
How does Draymond know exactly what question you're gonna ask because all you do is just think negative Draymond ask the question first though
What I said is just think negative. We got you
Easy, but let's talk about Draymond a little bit
How much does it mean to have a teammate like Draymond in that locker room to try and help you keep your head up?
when you're going through a tough time
it is great because
He doesn't have to be he's learned how not to be
Politically correct so he gets to say what the whole room is thinking he can look at clay face and say all right
He's feeling uncomfortable. Let me go ahead and say something get him out of it right and and
You you have teammates like that feeling uncomfortable, let me go ahead and say something. Get him out of it. You have
teammates like that. There's teammates where you're
sitting there and someone's trying to stir something.
Now you remember Jason Williams. I think that's just
scrubbed off the internet where he's like,
give me that pen. No, he can't write no article
in here. He took the pen and threw the pen.
Don't answer no.
You have teammates that do that.
It's like this is a team.
Why are you trying to divide us?
That's the problem.
Think about the overall look.
Yeah, I didn't play the last seven minutes.
Cool, right?
We won.
I have to deal with that emotionally, but you're making me think about it.
Why?
Are you upset?
Who was in your...
Did they deserve to play in your minutes? Like, you start doing that
in there, it starts making me look at the
other person. But who else knows it?
You know who else knows that I didn't play
seven minutes? All of the
fucking players on the team and the
fucking coach, which is why Draymond
can come in there and be like, oh, they talking about that
shit, they talking about that shit, you ain't played
the last minutes. Hey, I ain't playing the last
of the finals. Fuck all that, it don't fucking matter last minute. I ain't playing the last of the finals.
Fuck all that, it don't fucking matter as long as we win.
Yeah. As long as we win.
So when you got players that know, we all internally know,
and then we see the motherfuckers trying to trap you in the corner over there.
And it's uncomfortable already because we know what you going through.
Yeah, we know you can't say nothing.
We know. We know you pissed too.
It's like, hey, look, you and Steve need to go fight it out. You and Steve need to go on that boxing match. Hey,'s like a look you and Steve need to go fight it I do and Steve need to go in that boxer man. Yeah. Yeah, you and we never get no have you noticed?
We never get no course from curry, right? They don't play that with her. Have you noticed that you never they never jam?
Is always the one who's struggling yeah busy signing autographs doing interviews with yes network
That was a wilder shit. He did an interview with the
Opposing thieves crew like we want to know about our shit
They had got cominga when he was struggling with the with the with the minutes and see yeah, but the big win try to trap
Yeah, but that's but that's why when you know players are doing their podcast now you're learning more about the player themselves
They're giving you more information because
We are gonna limit the information media gives.
Yes.
Right?
We're going to limit it.
We're not going to give you,
we're not going to give them nothing.
Because look what you do with it.
You try to trap us
into a clickbait situation
where now we look bad
for telling the truth
that you wanted us to tell
instead of being politically correct
in a business setting.
It's called work ethic
and work work ethics
Ethics we have ethics here. It goes both ways
You do I do a show you can you you can convey things however you want
Okay, that's your narrative whatever the situation is right that may not be the actual fat watch the last dance
And I watch MJ do a lot of sneaky shit in that thing. I'm just saying.
The propelling elevated.
We talked about all the good shit.
We're not really hitting the other shit.
But that's just a part of life.
So you got to have some level of balance, though.
No, the balance is, this is why it's not really a balance.
If you take 460 players, right, let's just say 450 NBA players, and you say, all right, guys, you do not have to talk to the media after the game.
What do you think is going to happen?
Do you think you're going to have Katie, Clay, and
all those guys speaking to the media after games?
No, the reason you have to fine them is because naturally,
they do not want to talk to them.
So that means you will have to fine, which is a fine.
If you don't talk to media, they're going to complain, well, Curry didn't want to talk
to me today.
He ran out of the locker room.
You are going to fine the player himself because he doesn't want to talk to someone who's going
to agitate him.
Yep.
Right, so you technically are putting the player themselves into a stressful atmosphere
after he just finished a stressful game.
So in reality, the media has that advantage because they know if you leave here without
talking to me, I'm going to report you and then you're going to fine me.
So there's no balance.
There's no balance because the balance is offset by a fine because if you didn't find me
you're you're never you you you motherfucker i'm like michael jackson but no no you would you you
barely my one two maybe you would don't think about the chances that they do have of talking
to players is after the win and i had a good game i I'm on the court with my towel over my neck and I'm Kevin Durant.
Now we just hit, we just won. I just hit two shots to take us up and win, right? Kevin, we need to
talk to you for a second. All right. Now it's up to Kevin's discernment now to look at who's asking
him questions. I don't like this motherfucker. But that's the other side of it too. If y'all
not really rolling, who's asking you questions, I'm giving you a bullshit answer.
If I'm rolling with the media... No, I'm not doing nothing with you, period.
Like, if I'm Kevin Durant and I got a choice, like Gil said,
to talk to the media or not,
I'm only going to talk to the guy I know is a good guy
who's not trying to spin shit.
He's going to give me real good questions.
We talk about basketball and what just happened on the court.
We're not talking about nothing else.
So I feel comfortable talking to you.
Steph Curry, Devin Booker, they They're all stopped and talk Jason Tatum. Yeah, but if you're gonna ask me some bullshit
No, I'm cool. I'm good. I'm good. You gotta have to find one of these
But they got him fine both teams like Marshawn Lynch NBA that's you find an NBA doing that you find an NBA
You know why I'm here. Fine.
They're going to stop that.
I'm just here so I don't get fined.
That was amazing.
Beautiful moment.
I remember like Russell Westbrook, right, when he was doing the interview.
I don't know if you've seen it.
It was like, it was some dude that you can see he do not like this dude.
Yeah.
Right?
And he'll say something.
Yeah, huh?
And then the lady asks him, hey, you know, there was a turnaround fadeaway jump shot you did and that was
Immaculate and a smile that came on his face like but yo, yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, that's in my repertoire thank you for asking what's your name give her a raise like
He wants to answer the good shit, right? Nobody everybody in life when it's there's some good that happened to us, of course I want to talk about it.
If it's some bad shit, yeah, leave me alone.
But they don't always want to talk about the good shit.
That's what we're saying is like it's just overwhelming.
Yeah, for sure.
Because you know that society doesn't want to hear all the good shit.
Of course not.
They only want to hear the bullshit,
which is why media always asks controversial questions.
Society's derived off negativity.
Hey, why do you think I go viral most of the time? Because I'm always making the fucking controversial questions. Society's rising off negativity. Hey, why do you think I go viral most of the time?
Because I'm always making the fucking controversial takes.
I'm saying the bullshit.
It's well-researched.
Come on, man.
All right, well, let's keep this thing moving
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They be trying to go through us and you should do this question
What you talking about
I can't call this dude
I cannot call this man
I have to text him and tell him I'm by the phone
I'm looking for certain things
Yeah where that nude at
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Y'all niggas leave me alone
Gil does not accept incoming phone calls, as you already know.
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I probably won't pick up if I'm doing something.
I'll text him back, Gil.
I'm by the phone right now.
He's by the phone.
Yeah, so that means you can't call me and put the record on and try to aggravate.
Nah, nah, nah.
Don't do that.
So our first question is from a gentleman who has not yet got down with Underdog Fantasy,
but we're hoping he gets his mind right because he will get $100 if he does create an account and send it in.
What do y'all think about Jason Tatum constantly comparing himself to Kobe?
And do you like the confidence or do you feel like he hasn't proved himself to be on the Mamba level yet.
Appreciate it.
Let's roll with y'all.
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But announce that in the video.
But back to the question,
what do y'all think about Jason Tatum
constantly comparing himself to Kobe?
He does?
Yeah, I didn't, I mean.
I thought other people did that for him,
was doing that for him.
Like I know he did that special promo
where he put the Kobe jersey on, which.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't, listen,
I don't mind him comparing himself to Kobe because we don't know.
He's not comparing himself to Kobe and the accolades of, oh, he's an all-star.
He's an NBA champion, three-time NBA champion.
He's probably talking about this is the trajectory that I'm trying to put myself in.
Like, you know, Kobe with Michael Jordan, right?
This is who I compare myself to.
Greatness, right?
So I'm not going to take myself, I'm not going to compare myself to this guy or this guy because this is not considered goats, right?
So, no, I do not want to be compared to, I want to be compared to that guy right there.
That is the mamba, that's mamba mentality.
That's who I compare myself to.
And as long as I'm walking
under the same path...
Kobe mentor Tatum.
I mean...
Yeah, that's...
Like, so I get it.
This is where it's coming from.
I mean, a lot of people
don't like confidence, period,
when you don't have confidence.
Number one.
People who fucking
don't have confidence
hate seeing it.
Yep.
Period.
So Jason Tatum is not going around saying, oh, I'm comparing myself to Kobe.
I'm telling you guys what he taught me.
I'm showing you what he taught me.
And I'm telling you, I'm doing what the guy told me to do.
And y'all are seeing it in real time.
And I'm giving him homage not only by saying that this is what he taught me, but how can you not compare it to him?
Because he taught me this.
So I love, even if he's, like I know he's not comparing himself to Kobe.
I know he's paying homage.
But the fact that he taught him certain things that he's carrying over into his game,
that's why I keep Kobe in this light.
Because you can't die off somebody who is a teacher, a master teacher.
He wants to live on forever through the words of what he's done and what he wants to share.
And that's what I would love for LeBron to do.
Share your intellect and all of these things.
I would love for Kevin Durant to share all the things that made you great.
This is what brings us to the next generation, sharing. But that one guy who did, you see Paul George's game translate, you see
Devin Booker's game translate. See, all these guys who work with Kobe, the mentality is the number
one thing he always talked about. Translate through how we play the game and what mental
approach we come to. And I love it. I love it. So let's move on to our next question from underdog user Y3Official.
Yo, what's up, Gills Arena?
All-star question.
So should the NBA go MLB style and make the players play for home court advantage in the finals?
Would that fix all the issues with weak game play in the All-Stars?
And this second question is actually random.
Who had the best wave game, the best wave game in the NBA when y'all played?
What's up?
Send that man $200.
And secondly, he was watching Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy in the background.
Shout out.
I'm just wondering, you know, he got a face tattoo where he work at.
That's just one.
That's just weird.
You know, I just picked up.
Okay, but besides that.
No, no, just besides that.
You can't be adjourned.
No, no, I'm just, you know.
Those are intrusive questions.
Go ahead and hit him with it.
Now, what if he asked you?
That's a rebuttal in real time.
So MLB. So MLB.
So from 2003 to 2016, whoever won the MLB All-Star Game, whatever conference, I think they got league.
They got the home court advantage.
Nigga, this is a basketball show.
I do not give a fuck about baseball.
Wait, wait.
Other than Jackie Robinson and Roberto Clemente.
Because East plays,
so he's talking about
in the finals?
So if the East and the West
all-star game,
let's say the East wins
and then the East team
that goes to the finals
will get home court advantage.
Oh, that would be cool.
That would be cool.
Okay, I mean,
that would be cool,
but let's just say,
how many players
from Boston made it to,
made it, how many?
Yeah, that's the difference.
Imagine this. Two players from the Boston. Now made it? Yeah, that's the difference
Now you got what now you got the rest of the players
Right, you know playing hard for these two motherfuckers if they really out of shame and we don't like it I don't care what you got. This is my first also. I'm trying to have a break goddamn
I don't really the chance to make the finals, I'm trying to help them win.
I mean, if you really want to pump it up, just make one grand prize.
Just one grand prize.
Every player gets the money.
Loser gets nothing.
That changes it.
I don't know why.
If you give me money to participate fucker
I'm that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna participate. I'm
Participating your way. I'm gonna listen. I'm on I'm on the on the business like hey
Beyonce
Don't care about what's running up and down. What if we do this? Yeah, hey half the time is we we got our phones
And I'm gonna take your pictures this city. We take your time is we got our phones in our mouth. We taking pictures and shit.
Yeah, we taking pictures.
We don't care.
We're going to flip our coin.
That's vacation.
$5 million to the fucking winner.
That's what they was doing.
WB also gave.
They was live tweeting.
Because it's a vacation.
Everybody else who don't make it is there on vacation getting a mental break.
We're in the same mode.
We just have obligations.
Now, the problem comes with if you want the obligations to turn into some real shit, make it some real shit.
So get with it.
Turn it.
Like $5 million for the winner.
$5 million.
Loser gets nothing.
Man.
Oh, hold on.
Who won it?
$5 million?
What if you go $5 million for the winner, but the loser's got to pay it from their salary?
You're not going to play hard?
You're not going to play hard?
I'm not playing, period.
You're not flipping that coin, Gil?
You know why?
Flip that coin, Gil.
Everybody who's participated in the game has to put in something that he plays for.
No, because if I'm the East team and I got a look at my tea
He's going against Curry.
My leg hurt.
You play for Boston.
You need to relax.
What I'm saying, I'm going to take the all-star bid,
but I don't want to be part of this game knowing this East team look weak as fuck compared to that West team.
You got to stop that.
I'm just saying.
Y'all cause me to be money.
But you're talking about 5 million.
You put 5 million in the front boom winner takes all
Guarantee you they're gonna be playing different
For sure. That's fair. Sure. All right and second question who had the best wave game in the NBA when you played
360s 358 with somebody who didn't like okay
Well, I said this before I said if you have waves in NBA
You probably wasn't that dude because it takes the reason, if I tell you every NBA player, I give you the 100 best, greatest players of all time.
And you pull out three dudes with waves, you prove my point.
You pull out three dudes with waves, you prove the point.
Because, yeah, there's an exception to the rule that, yeah, there's going to be some players that had
waves at some point, right? You're going to have a Paul
George who had waves one year,
but eventually, a dude who's
sitting there with waves, sitting here doing
this all day, worrying about
his flow. Yeah,
game ain't like that, bro.
Someone who has the Louis Vuitton
outfit on and
you've seen it.
He comes to the gym in workouts, right?
And he got the Louis Vuitton basketball shirt.
Bro, you didn't come here to work out, man.
Get out of here, bro.
Who you came here to look good for?
You got jewelry on, ball.
Ain't nobody paying attention to your trash.
So Chad is saying Joe Johnson, Darren Williams.
T-Mac had some waves.
T-Mac, he had them for a day, for an hour. Probably Darren Williams. Darren Williams has some set of light-skinned dudes with the good hair. I'm trying to say Joe Johnson there will see Mac and waves to Matt. He had a four four four day
Probably Darren Williams. They will you know some said the light-skinned news with a good hair hair, right? That's just automatic
It ain't even ways
Like tell you like tell you to me you cut his hair he got
Like me me. I got a brush a little bit if I get my regular haircut
I probably have a little ways but for me to get wave wave. I'm bored. I gotta work
I'm not where I got shit to do. I had to Kevin Durant take
D I had the real nigga slave here boy had to cut my I don't like hey, D. Can you go to the barber niggas? There's difference between waves and dudes. They just got that texture. Yeah, it is they got the feet
They got the Indian in a family. No, no, no had a little bit
Like you say the lane Stevenson, man
If you did is we looking at you like you got waves like you got the brush in your back pocket
You know, he ain't coming to hoop dog
Chicago he keep it on a keep it on the break even on the mother the bench to it Let me get that brother. We get that brush. Yeah, like that's the thing. You got that brush like come on, dawg
We're trying to play the game
Like NBA like most like okay up
What Brandon Ingram is going through is exactly the mood, right?
When the season starts, it's grind.
We think grind time, right?
So more players like, oh, it's grind time.
So during the week time, unless you like somebody like Jalen Rose, who he's taking pictures all the time, getting your lineup done all the time,
that just becomes a headache.
Because what happens is, you're on the road so much,
you don't trust the barbers there.
For you to really get haircuts like that,
and then if you do, hey, yo, I'm going to New York,
hey, hey, you got a barber here that I can mess with?
Hey, Rashad, you got a barber you can deal with?
So then you become relying on other players.
For the most part, it's like, eh, I just let my shit grow out.
I would say the same way that y'all feel about haircuts,
that's how we feel about our hair.
That's why it's always braided up or in a weave or something,
because that shit takes time.
But we can't get a weave. Y'all cheating.
It's not cheating.
It is.
You've seen my real hair. It's not cheating.
No, no, that's cheating if you got somebody else's hair.
We don't get to put nobody else's hair in our hair. You can. We don't. Yes, y'all hair. It's not cheating. No, no, that's cheating if you got somebody else's hair. We don't get to put nobody else's hair in our hair.
You can.
We don't.
Yes, y'all do.
It's difficult.
It's a difficulty.
We need more of that.
It's a difficulty.
There's a lot of people who can do that.
Get the man unit.
We need more man units in the NBA.
If you fly and you proud yourself on getting girls,
you're going to always have a lineup.
In the middle of the game like you you worried about looking pretty
Yeah, yeah, we are too. Yeah. She's got to see this mana T and like to see this my T and T certain games
You know if we like yeah, we're trying to get a line number, but for the most part like it's
It's a grime
When we working when we working for the work, we're going to get that line up.
Like, Brendan Ingram looks exactly
what the most NBA players are like. Okay, he's
going through something. Going through something.
He ain't got time. I ain't got time to be
worried about no haircut, dog. I'm trying to
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