Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Discuss Zion's Comeback and MVP Predictions

Episode Date: October 9, 2023

Gil's Arena Gives Their MVP Predictions and Discuss Zion's Wild Offseason to kick off Week 2 of Season 2!! Listen in as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew rehash the Nikola Jokic vs Joel Embiid Battle for MVP and give their thoughts on who will take how the Crown for the 2024 NBA MVP. They also examine the roller coaster offseason for Zion Williamson and break down the pivotal season ahead for the enigmatic big man. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ THE HOMETOWN FAVORITES https://thehometownfavorites.com/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:53 Drake's New Album Review 0:09:47 Gil Relives A Basketball Blooper 0:26:47 Dumbest Thing A Coach Has Done In A Game 0:30:47 Have You Ever Been Iced Out In A Game? 0:43:30 Most Disappointing L Of Your Career 0:45:56 How Bad NBA Rule Changes Are Impacting The Game 0:49:46 Who's The Next American MVP? 1:06:26 Can Dame win the MVP? 1:15:29 Should There Be A "Criteria" For MVP? 1:24:14 Zion's Coming Back Stronger 1:33:26 Expectations For Zion 1:37:27 Training Regiments In The NBA 1:44:51 MostlyFans 2:03:33 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Man, about time. For all the dogs. For all the dogs. He back, he back, Gil! He back! Damn it! He look like he need a shower. We're the hottest men this whole time.

He do look like he need a shower. He said, I've been straggling. He's a straggler, he's been straggling. Getting on B words, I can't say it. Obviously, we're trying to monetize on YouTube. But since we got freedom back, it's only right we start this show talking about dogs. So Drake dropped his new album, For All the Dogs, this past Friday, 6 a.m. For some reason, 3 a.m. Pacific.

But so far, it's gotten mixed reviews. So we've got some music heads here on the show. Need to know. And we're in Drake's age range, too. So are y'all rolling with for all the dogs well i'm gonna let mr b go first man because i think he got a stronger point than mr b are you rolling with drake's new album i mean i just feel like we're drake's at right now i mean like what you know he's been at the highest so it's like whatever he drops you know it's either

you're gonna love it or you're just not going you know like it at all um So it's like whatever he drops, you know, it's either you're going to love it or you're just not going, you know, like it at all. But it's like, what more can he do in music? You know, at this point, I mean, he's gave us like so many years of great music. And then, you know, I guess he wanted to try something new. Like, you know, I don't think it's wrong hanging with young guys though.

You know, at that aspect, because the young crowd, they keep you inspired. Okay. And I know that from my business with Tough Crowd. So I know hanging around youngins and hanging around the younger crowd, it helps me with things that I do with my company. So, I mean, I get it. Man, don't tell me it's for the dogs and you fucking singing and shit like you one of the cats man. I Don't like that shit man. I was expecting for the dogs You gave me a like you gave me some meow shit, so when you wanted like more rap I wanted all rap

Drake give me the first album where it's all rap No cap So far gonna take care or so where it was all rap. Yeah, nah, he never had no all rap album. No I mean, he's already we expecting that that's what Joe Bud mad at he like goddamn it No, Joe button was mad at the verse the verse between him and J. Cole He felt like Drake didn't approach it the right way. He said he need to grow up I think Michael Bunn was mad at the verse, the verse between him and J. Cole. He felt like Drake didn't approach it the right way. He said he needed to grow up.

I mean, he's been attacking him every CD, right? So, I mean, it seems like Drake just outsmarted everyone else in a sense where he's been vampiring. When you get to a certain age you know it's smart you've been vampire which means you know your if you at the top here the only way you can stay up is to go down right and go to these young guys that's poppin that you know is about to change a wave and you say I want to be on your song of course they go like, Drake, because you put them on

too. They put you, you know, so they keep boosting him back up. So that's the reason, he goes, he looks at who's about to be popping, and he rides that wave back to the top. I mean, you know, you can't hate it. Just the older generation, the Wu-Tang, all them guys, they just wasn't smart enough to understand that. Right, that when this new wave comes, you can fight it all you want,

but this is a young man's game. Mm-hmm. I mean, and like, who is he supposed to be hanging out with right now? Like, his age. Like, who's his age that he should be hanging out with? You're 36! Wayne, Wayne and J. Cole and them, Wiz Khalifa and them.

Yeah, but I'm better, but to him, he's like, I'm... Kendrick, all of them. Cole and them, Wiz Khalifa and them. Yeah, but I'm better. Kendrick, all of them. That's competitors. Yeah, but that's competitors. It's just like what we talked about with Cooper Flagg, though. Don't go play down. Don't go play down. Don't go play down the age range, bro.

Play up with your... He ain't playing down. I mean, what was it, Jay-Z? Nah, he is playing down. He is playing down, Gil. If you think about it, the the the the conversation is geared around Joe Butt and saying, listen, man, grow up, be around. Talk about some adult shit. You around 25 year olds. Right. So if that's the case, that means that his audience is a younger audience that he's appealing to because he has an advantage. He knows he can win when he goes there. Yeah. But the challenge as a musician is your creativity to flow up, to get the people who really are going to critique you. Who? The older people. He's richer than every older person. But it ain't about, it ain't about being richer. It's about music. It's about the critique of music. When you get past the money, it's like, what are you talking about? But what I'm saying is who is

going to critique them? That's in the jay-z Kanye Pharrell Swiss beat Okay, Jim saying these are guys that are at that money level that can critique Nas, but they're not gonna they're not gonna What they're not they're not battling with him. Who's gonna battle him. Nobody's gonna battle making music for them They we've known the older generation don't buy music. Of course. that's why they that's why all those older guys die out Yeah, right, so he's appealing to the young crowd And that's the dilemma that everybody sees that we're talking because they didn't do it right you know nice And they don't know how they don't they don't have the talent or they don't know how they don't know how to do it like I hate conscious rap okay like the reason I hate conscious rap no no reason

I hate the reason I hate conscious rap... No, no, the reason I hate... The reason I hate conscious rap is because... How do we grow with you? Right? Dictionary is called a dictionary. No, what I'm saying, we don't grow with you. You're just talking about world issues. Like, how do I talk to you personally? How do I know you personally?

How do I... Like, if you started from the bottom, and then you swagging out, I want to hear your swag. Why? I don't want to talk... I don't want to hear you talk about the world. We get enough of that.

I can watch the news for that. That's what made Tupac the greatest. Tupac talked about his mama. He talked about everything. He did everything. He talked about the world. You can't use Tupac because Tupac was five. He did every single thing.

That's the expectation for great. Most conscious rappers just talk conscious. They don't talk about themselves. We don't know nothing about you. What do we know about Nas? He from Queens. I mean Nas is not in my top five. So I don't know what I'm saying I'm not like what do we know about him personally? I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean I feel to say I mean you say nah So I don't know that way about like Travis Scott like what has Travis Scott ever said on a record that made me be like

Yeah, that was hard. I don't mean hard. I want to hear stories. It's preference, though. It's preference. Because if you like storytelling, there's going to be a list of conscious rappers that's going to tell stories. If you like, shit, from Black Thought to Common to Most Deaf, there's a bunch of different, you know, incredible artists that tell stories

that are conscious. They don't sell. You're not looking for that. There's a niche for that but then what we're listening to now we're listening to drake pander to a whole certain section of music where the critics can say bro you're not really going nowhere with this because you know that this is skip to malou rap and this is how it's going to go you know this this isachty rap, but then we want you on some Jay-Z 444 bars. Teach us some. Give us some game. We waiting for that. You'll give

us some meat meal beef. You'll give us some push of tea beef, but give us some I just feel like when we throw Jay in it, it's like, man, we got to look at Jay's growth, man. Look who he got on his side. Look who he got on his hip. So his delivery, his approach, his perspective on life is going to be totally different he got he got a significant other like he got a significant other he's growing with every day so it's like if you

not but I just feel like too in rap if you're not on that like if you're not on what Jay-Z's on what he's on you're not going to understand you know if you're not on what Drake's on you're not going to understand exactly so it's like it's just if you can't relate to them. Yeah, like I mean how many people can relate to what Jay-z talks about? Hey, there's a handful. Yeah, I mean Drink that's why he can't really put nothing out like even with drink Okay, Jay can't put nothing for the whole body of work an album out where it gets everybody to tune in Based off it not just being Jay. We're going to buy it because it's Jay, but like he's saying, Jay going to be talking

about a bunch of stuff we ain't even understand it because we don't live that life. So Jay can't really put nothing out and be like, oh, it's going to go platinum. What does Jay-Z talk about that we don't understand? I feel like it's growth. Gold, buying gold. I'm not even going to lie. We talked about the gold shit when we talked about the gold. No, no, no, Rihanna, there's some shit I listened to from back 10 years ago.

I just now know what it was. I mean. I ain't going to lie. Oh, that's that wine he was talking about. Opus One. That was a club. Yeah. We just had a.

Like, I'm still like, hey, man, what's this? It was Opus One. Yeah. I heard that somewhere before. And then the line ran. I was like, oh, I thought he was talking about a club or something. But it's Drake just understands how to identify with, you know, sales. Like the man has his own plane.

So, I mean, if he really want a big boy, I mean, think about the house he built. Think about his plane. If he really wanted to jump into the big-boy lane and talk that shit he can but he knows 98% of the audience won't They won't then that's your so he dropped then that's their fault like that's your fault Like I'm not dumbing myself down because the way I live like like you don't you have to know I'm not music you music you do. Hey, Jay said it. I had to dumb my music down to double my dollar.

Yeah. Because he knows people, I mean. So, but do y'all feel like y'all... People's stupid, man. Yes, bro. People's stupid. So you feel like at this time in his life, though,

he needs to dumb down his music? No, he already did it. People's stupid. People are... When you're talking about a listener, think about America, man. Americans are not that smart, right? You know, when the pandemic hit,

when the pandemic hit, motherfuckers out there buying toilet paper. Toilet paper, bro. They over there drinking. Wait, wait, wait. What's wrong with my girl? The first thing you buy

is toilet paper, bro. I mean, so that's... You didn't even buy wipes. You bought toilet paper. I mean, people out there drinking juice. I mean, people out there drinking what?

The whole pharmaceutical aisle is just... People out there drinking bleach because they thought it was going to help. I mean, come on. You, that's you know me so bad I mean, so there's just you know when you're talking about rap and there's just certain levels. You can't talk about because they just

So do I feel like y'all grown Drake's music though? I mean, he's 36, but he's making music for the younger demo. Like we have some young people in here y'all rolling with for all the dogs You have all of them Like we have some young people in here y'all rolling with for all the dogs Is if you try to get a lady then Drake is the one you want to go to You know that I mean or R&B right now. I think I'm just like I really don't care for rap no more I'm more R&B Like I just think I think R&B is just taking over. Like, I want some wine. I want some R&B. Like, I don't care about hearing about how many girls you got, this and that. Like, or where you... He broke your heart.

Listen, I just want to talk about... Let's talk about love. Let's get to the love. Look, look, look, look, look, look. He growing up. Look. He growing up. I did my 20s.

I'm done with that. Let's talk about the love, you know. He growing up. I don't even know any new artists in R&B. My R&B playlist is still from the early 2000s. That's all you need. The 90s. I got to put you on.

Scissor, Scissor, Scissor Toe. I don't know no more. Nah. That new Puff album's hard. Puff album's cool. Yeah, the love album's hard. R&B. Puff's still a rapper.

It's all right. Oh, no. He's still in. He's still in. That love album's off the top. I'm on music. Soul Child's still. I'm back. I'm still around. It's alright. Oh, he's still in he's still in my head love hours off the top I'm a little soul child still I'm back. I'm still back there. Yeah, right. Yeah, rap is updated my R&B I mean the hardest rap album right now is probably like doji cat who doji cat. Yes doji cat got the hardest rap album out right now That's a girl who could that says a lot that says a lot man

That says a lot. I mean the production is crazy. The production of it is crazy. That says a lot. That says a lot, man. That says a lot. I mean, the production is crazy. The production of it is crazy. That says a lot, though. No, it doesn't. It does. She just got like... Because if you're depending on production... If you're depending on your production to push you over the top, it says a lot about it. Her production, her bars, what she's saying. You know she done seen a lot in the last year. Those are cats. So, last question

on this Drake thing for y'all. Obviously, Joe Budden responded. Joe Budden, very respected rapper in the game, has transitioned to one of the best podcasters in the game. I feel that we're in as well and we're just as successful

almost. Top four, according to Complex. But what was y'all thoughts on Joe Budden's reaction to Drake's album and then Drake's response? Joe's the media.

I mean, Joe, I think Joe just did his job. The only thing about it is, like, when you talk about podcasters and podcasting, it's like, well, this is what we do, too. So say this year in the NBA, say, for instance, okay, Brian don't have a good two years for the next years, right?

And then you start critiquing his game or start saying this and that. But the whole time you've been saying he's the GOAT, he's this and that, and you still up him. but it's like then you'll get a message online a whole paragraph about your whole career and like you didn't do this i got and it's like it's like but like i i like i like you like you know i'm saying like i'm a fan but i just feel like right now like this is just not it so talk about it i just feel like i don't know like that was kind of just like mmm because it's like well We gonna sit up here and talk about who yeah, oh, and you know it's gonna be a guy that didn't have a good year

So what now wait so what now what he gonna talk about me online like it's like you want to take it there Yes, it's kind of like you want to take it there. Yeah, take it. That's it with Hooper Is this like you really want to take it there? Yeah, it's like rappers It's like you know they got a rap us is like All right, it's critiquing the game not the person and I think sometimes there's this big fine line of critiquing someone's game and Not the person himself like you you as a person off the court I had that's none of my business, right?

I'm talking about on the court what you do the things you do on the court if you're Having a bad game or this and it your personal life is your personal life, right? But I think sometimes as athletes when you attack our game that is our personal life and that's how we approach it back Right. So you you say I'm selfish and this and this and this now I want to attack you personally when it's just like I Should I mean it seems like both of them attacked each other's job. They both kind of just like it's like whatever.

But that's their problem. For sure. That ain't got nothing to do with me. No for sure. I just feel like we're going to be in this type of position that Joe's in. Because we're on the podcast. Isaiah Stewart man. Isaiah Stewart, man.

Like, you know what I'm saying? So it's like. Isaiah Stewart wasn't trying to hear that shit. I don't want to hear you critiquing me and saying this and saying this online. The problem with him is he misread what I said. But that's what they do. They misread what I said. He thought I said.

He thought I was calling him a punk and said, you waited until your team got there. Not saying no wait till your team gets there. They can hold you back so you don't get fined. He read it wrong. But think about Joe and Joe and Drake, Drake reading it wrong. Listen, listen. Yes. Cause you're the media.

Listen, this is why he's reading it wrong. No, look, cause this is the media, right? This is Joe saying I get to critique the biggest album of the year right now. He critiques every album, though. And he does. He critiques all albums. So as he's starting to critique on the best song, the biggest song on the album, he starts to hear what he hears. And ain't nobody else going to break it down and be completely unbiased than Joe.

So Joe, let him have it. Like, yo, you need to grow up this is this is not what we're expecting from 35 year old drake the grow up the grow up part though but he but he's it's the grow up part but it's just like skipper shannon saying something to kd or steph like or dame or saying dame you don't really you can't handle what drew drew bring to the table you don't play both sides of the ball dame can't take that personal you can only go back to the table. You don't play both sides of the ball. Dame can't take that personal. You can only go back to the footage and see what he's saying. At this

point, look, you got your ass torched in the playoffs. I'm not saying nothing we don't all see. That's what Joe's saying. Joe's saying, listen, if you listen to the album, ain't a lot of music on here for my dogs. Ain't a lot of music on here for my dogs. I don's what I mean. Ain't a lot of music on here for my dogs. I don't know if Jules ever gave him a good review.

He has. He has. Yeah, he called him the goat. Yeah. He called him the goat. He said he was like the, like he praises him. I know what you're talking about, though. It was one album that he killed him on.

No, I know that was that line where Drake was like, I am who you were supposed to be. I became who you were supposed to be. I became who you were supposed to be. That was... Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if they have beef. That's why I was like, they didn't mind. I mean, but then again, it's just hip-hop beef.

I mean, it's just like, I don't think it's that serious, though. It is. I mean, I don't know. It is, because we've never seen Drake this triggered before. Yeah, but I don't think it's like... Drake's always triggered. Not like this. Hey, two-minute paragraph triggered.

I don't think it's like that. Two-minute paragraph. He wrote deal- Drake's always triggered. Not like this. Not like... Hey, two minute paragraph triggered. I don't think it's like that. Two minute paragraph. He wrote deal level paragraphs though. Well thought out. Well, I mean... He put bars in the paragraph that were not on the album.

We mad about that. That was a bar, Drake. No, no, no. I think as if I'm Drake, what I would be mad at is you're insinuating that I'm messing with little girls. Wait, huh? With 25 year olds? You're saying you're messing with 25 year olds when you're insinuating that I'm messing with little girls. Wait, huh? With 25-year-olds?

You're saying you're messing with 25-year-olds when you're 36. So, you know. I know, but as a man, you kind of like, yo. This is all you can get. That's what you're doing. This is all you can get. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all see my list.

I'm Serena Williams. Y'all see my list. Don't do that. And I think that's where it becomes like, hey, hold on, homeboy. What you talking about? Well, let's keep this thing moving and shaking. We are technically a basketball show Let's talk some sports, but we don't we're gonna hit a little college football first So Miami football coach Mario crystal ball is getting some South Beach slander after the Canes tricked off a win against Georgia Tech this weekend They were up late in the game like 35 seconds left

All they do is take a knee ended up running the ball fumble Georgia Tech recovered went on to in the game like 35 seconds left. All they had to do was take a knee. Ended up running the ball, fumbled. Georgia Tech recovered. Went on to score the game-winning touchdown. Damn. In embarrassing fashion. But this is the basketball show. So let's talk a little about basketball, Gil. Let's go back down memory lane.

March 30th, 2007. Raptors versus the Wizards in Chocolate City. Oh, man. Wait, who? Raptors versus the Wizards. Wizards up. And at home? Wizards up three seconds. Oh, there's up three with three point eight seconds remaining this one hurts then this happened No, you gotta watch Gil though Mike Ruffin, what are you doing?

Full spin we gotta stay on the court. Eddie. Eddie Jordan in the lineup, to be honest. It was that suit he was wearing. Man, I was a nap. What was Mike doing, man? Mike was lunching. Look, lunching. Yeah.

Why is he even in the game? Yeah. Why is he even in the game during that time? Yeah. That's all y'all had, Gil? So what's wild about that, Mo Peterson only played like less than a minute that game. Yeah, he just got in. He got in with nine seconds left.

He just got in the game. That was his only bucket. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, yeah, he was in a doghouse. You know, they put him in, you know, that message, like, I'm gonna go get in. That's a doghouse bucket. Put him in with nine seconds left. That's a doghouse bucket. But they took him him out and then put him back in with like three seconds

He got subbed out like twice in like a four second window late. He ain't even playing overtime. Damn. Thank you So what do you remember from that game in that moment? Can you could talk about it you already did already this deal hurts, bro, but you didn't do you didn't say nothing to rough it Did you know? Listen he's the uh It still hurts, bro, but you didn't do you didn't say nothing to rough it did you? Oh, no Listen he's the uh He's like the enforcer right anytime. There was a fight. He's the one that break the fight up Okay, so if we went at him who was gonna break it up cuz he was the strongest on the team. Yeah, right the only person so we you know how you chit-chat and then he walk in everybody's like cuz no one will say that he's quiet

He's quiet though, but then the ones you got to worry about Quran Man nah, man, what you got all the muscles for you can't even throw the ball more than three feet in the air But it was it was one of those things where you question, like, why? Just, they're in the penalty. They have no more timeouts. Right? Just get the foul.

He didn't want to shoot free throws. Oh, yeah. Not realizing who gives it, who cares. Just get foul, go to free throw line, brick them both. It don't matter. But he was scared to shoot free throws, so he was trying to throw. The muscles wasn't, the muscles wasn't the muscles wasn't But yeah that one hurt Cuz we was you know, that's you know, that's at the end of the season too. You said March, right?

Yeah, March 30 trying to make that playoff that playoff pushing what you had that game probably had 30 something i was i was in i was in deal mode like usual i mean that's hard that looked like you was having a bad game that game i don't know i look like you probably had 30 you look like you was ready to go home right there yeah he's like he was about to go home i feel like he was about to go home. I feel like he was about to go home. I averaged 29, so I got to have 30. 34-7-4. I know I had 30, so I averaged 29. I can just only guess. But back to that Miami game.

And Juan Dixon was on that team, so that kind of hurt too. So back to that Miami game. I know Miami fans are in their feelings. Undefeated to that point. Tricked that game off. But let's correlate it to basketball. What's the dumbest thing you've seen a coach do in a game? The dumbest thing a coach has done in a game was...

Oh, I got a good one. Not go for the win. I got a good one. Basically, will penalize your... Penalizing a player that says something to him That he think he's putting punishing the player but technically he's punishing the team You know when a player says something they're going back and forth and he decides to bench the player and Binge it for the rest of the game when that players need a game

Yeah, so that's the dumbest thing I've seen that you were you that you're willing to lose a game to make a point, not realizing you're losing the rest of the team, too. Do you have a specific moment you're thinking about? That's every coach who calls America. Right? It's a heated moment. So if you do something and you made a wrong sub, you sub me, I'm like, what the fuck? What are you subbing me out for?

Blah, blah, blah. And then you take it personal and bench me for that game like there's there's there's moments practice anytime you can you can you can penalize me but to penalize me in real time in a game like that doghouse like you have to be you have to be a selfish coach to realize what you're doing when you have a doghouse Mm-hmm right you're you're taking wins and possible wins away from your team. Yeah When you do that like, you know, I'm a bitch my best player cuz he was late making it personal Find him. Yeah, if I make him run extra in practice, what do you mean? He was late. So I'm not gonna start my best player cuz he was late five minutes stop He gonna play the 42 to 48 minutes. He was playing. Well, I don't want him to get his stats

Well, our wins is your stats. So you don't want to win the winners is your status paid off your wins So, okay. Yeah, you gonna play your 42 48 didn't act the practice. No, you gonna run some extra I'm gonna find a way to penalize you. I'm not gonna do it when it counts Just this just doesn't make sense. Don't miss it. I don't see What they call them Greg Popovich, oh That's what they call them When he subbed him dunking out and they tipped that damn ball over there to Ray Allen, and he shot that three-point to win the game.

No, tie the game. Send it to OT. Yeah. He subbed Timmy out. The only rebounder you got. And he missed that opportunity to get the rebound, seal the deal, get it up out of there. I thought that was dumb.

That's my favorite pop-up. I thought that was dumb. Do you feel me? I thought that was real dumb. Just looking back at it, like, yo, what would you take? There's no reason at all to take Tim Duncan out of the game in a defensive position. Actually, they were down three, right? No.

Yeah, they were down three. They were down three. They were up three. No, they were down three. They were down three. They were up three. No, they were up three. I mean, they were up three. Yeah, they were up three. Because Miami probably spread the floor. Five shooters.

It's an inbound play. It's an inbound play. He's the fourth. It's like a second left or something. No. Brian missed the three right there. Yeah, Brian missed the three. He got the rebound pass.

Yeah, no reason to keep Tim Duncan out. You have Bosh out there. Yeah, and missed the three. He got the rebound pass. Yeah, no reason to keep Tim Duncan out. You have Bosh out there. Yeah, and Bosh out there. Yeah. Match up. I'm Tim Duncan, all defensive. You don't take me out the game for no reason. No, no, no, all defense in the post versus all defense running around.

All defense anywhere. I know what to do. I know what to do. Chris Bosh ain't getting the ball, taking five dribbles to shoot no three. We know that. What you take me out the game for? You tripping. Like Shaq. Shaq get taken out of the game

at the end when they change lineups. You want Shaq out there switching and trying to guard some guards? Hey, Tim Dungan ain't Shaq. That was some dumb shit. So what we said, the dumbest thing a coach has done? Yeah, it could be any level. But you saying you're like, damn, that's... I think for me, it would have to be...

I remember playing Milwaukee. This is my last year. I think Scouts had just got fired, and we had an intern coach, and I was like... We were down eight. It was like six seconds left, and we called a timeout.

And I tweeted. I was like... And I tweeted, and I was like, well, I didn't know we could run an eight-point play with six seconds left mmm I got fine the next day for that that's the problem but it's like it's six seconds like we down eight you call the timeout I'm like I was fucking done they're gonna find me for the obvious right you get fine for something that's obvious but you know

that's what we couldn't tweet that right the game, so I couldn't wait. I went right back after. I was like, didn't know what to do. That's when they had their phones on the bench too. They was tweeting from the bench. Dumbest thing I seen the coach do, I don't know if y'all remember that commercial where the kid said it went off his arm. It was all over the floor.

Go ahead, Junior, tell him. It went off me. He went and told the ref? He went and told the ref. That was the worst sportsmanship commercial I've ever seen. I can't believe that was even... Like, filming it, everybody had to be like, yo. They told him, good job. But the teammates, to look at the teammates,

was looking at him like... It's the championship game. What you mean? What you mean you hit it? You can tell the writer was trash. Oh, yeah, you got to be trash. That's why we on the strike now. You hit it. You can tell the writer was trash Huh No, no, never be honest in that moment like a referee is gonna be like oh it's off you all right

This is some things that's just dumb. That was one of them. Like the referee is going to listen to what you just said and change his decision. And that ref, too, looked like he was on meth. I'm just going to be honest. He's like, ah. But so back to the coaching component. So have you ever audibled out of a play that your coach called? All the time.

Oh, what. What? It's not the right play. As soon as they did five down or four down, stop. What was those plays? You know, bring it up the side, and then the shooting guard, like either pop out. He can either pop out on the wing, you pass it, go straight to the five. Or he can do like a little brush screen, and then you dump it into the five or the four.

So it was a four to four or the five man? Huh? It was four to four or the five man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, basically back then it was simple. You need five down, four down, three down, two down. Oh, one down, oh you about to push me up. Drop it, drop it.

Ooh, this is hard. It's like, it was like, you know, when they be like NBA plays, you gotta got to learn them. Mm-hmm. Five down. Let me guess. Five. You don't want to do it in the KG, man. Yeah, but like, any time he did that, like, nah, you would come out here and set this

pick and roll. Yeah, I think my senior year in high school, in Oak Hill, I just broke off every play. I ain't even, any time Steve Smith said, watch out, I was just like, nah. Like, I'm doing my own thing. That's why I was averaging 38, 35. I ain't hearing nothing. That's why the shooting guard- I was so selfish my senior year. That's why I was averaging 38, 35. I ain't carrying that. I was so selfish my senior year. That's why we don't, the shooting guards don't like y'all.

So what, undefeated, y'all lost one game? Nah, so we was supposed to go back-to-back that year at Oak Hill, but two of our star players had left before we started, so I was like the only left senior. So after that, I just went into like Gil mode, Kobe mode, like just breaking off every play. I'm talking about every time down. Don't even look to score.

Did he just keep calling plays or did he get up? Yeah, I mean, I was hitting. Okay. I was averaging 35. Oh, then hey. See, that's why it pisses us off. It pisses us off. The shooting guard, small forwards, and we got to play for us.

Then we see Gil, you see it in his eyes. See it in his eyes. He ain't even looking at the play no more. We know he not going to run the play the whole way through I'm supposed to get the ball on the backside for the backside three-pointer the reverse versus not We only get two plays let's execute the play come on bro, we out here play out here playing for the team Get that first pick and roll at the top, you trying to score. But he doing what he

supposed to do. Y'all do what y'all supposed to do. Not our offense though. We was in the Princeton. So, you know, when he called the play, like Princeton is

equal opportunity. Yeah. So let's say, you know, Caron is on fire or, you know, Antoine is on fire. What a coach would do

is say, all right, we're going to run the play. We're going to run a play here, call a play. The play might be for that person, but you're doing too much to give him the ball. Absolutely. Like, stop that shit, right? You know, it's like, all right, we're going to do the pick and roll. You're going to pop.

We're going to give it to you. You go to work, right? That's what we've been doing. Now you want to put a whole, you know, circus into it. Go around. We're going to snap back. We're going to snap back. And then come back and do the post-up.

He tired now, coach. Like, just, we, let's just milk this play until they figure it out. Well, that's usually the purpose of running the play is to milk the energy from the other team.

Like, we're going to make them play defense for 18 seconds, and then we're going to execute, right? But usually, y'all point guards don't be, y'all, y'all don't have the attention span to wait the whole point Let's run it all way through you like I got it. I got something here. You know, I got something

You already like this is the big let's say already had a ball, right? And I got you on the wing by myself and he called a play To give it right back to me in the same spot There ain't no reason for it Like that stuff like that big just yeah, you deserve to break the flavor there Like I don't know the coaches sometimes be in the game Like that right, you know, like sometimes you'll see a coach over there and he just and then just call some stop no no no that's I don't he ain't even in the game bro like you know and like sometimes they reading from you know this and like coaches listen when you coach this is when you count. Dead ball. Timeout.

Out of bounds. Free throw. That's when you call plays. If there's a rebound, shut up. Shut up. Let the play go. Let's see what your offense got versus in the middle of a fast break, you calling a play because naturally the guard is going to look here.

Now everybody got to scramble around. The whole energy is off. So is the onus on you as a point guard to know which plays to call in the moments? Instead of looking over here at him, waiting for him to call a play, let's just say we got three, four straight possessions. No timeouts, no out of bounds, no nothing. Everything is just going. Every time down, are you calling the play? Are you just playing it off the fast break?

How is a point guard actually facilitating calling the plays and running the offense without looking to the head coach? It's the flow. What's the matchups? Who hasn't touched the ball? Who's hot? Is the five man here, my five's here you know let's go straight into a pick and roll right you you can see it that's that's why we play the game um but you know it's still two different views yep you know they got the sideline view there you know we got the 2k view

right they got the court side view we got 2k so we have different views so he might see something he might see something that i can't see yep right so he might call a play and then I'll see it and it's like yeah he has a little owner but he gonna pack he's scary yeah well that's his wrong side anyway so he can't he ain't gonna be able to do the move over there anyway so no no no no we're gonna run it over here like this yeah right you know there's times where I mean me and Eddie used to talk like yo why you keep slowing down the fast break and he said it yo When I call a play is not for you

He said the offense is for the rest of the team. Yeah to feel the ball. Yeah, so he said when I call a play It's I'm seeing the energy in them. They feel like they're not touching the ball. Yes. Yes, right They're not touching the ball. So I'm calling it so they can get they feel like they're not touching the ball. They're not touching the ball, so I'm calling it so they can get a feel like they're doing something. So we had to have that conversation like, all right. So when he started calling plays, I already knew, all right, one of them over there is pounding. Somebody mad.

Go ahead, touch the ball. I was about to ask that too. What's the dynamic between that as a point guard clashing with your coach if he want to run? You on the side, pick and roll, he want to run something else, maybe like a four down. But you about to come into a pick and roll. Is that something that gets on your nerves when you're trying to actually facilitate a flow that you see? No, I'm just, I know it's not going to work, but I'm going to run it anyway.

You're going to run it anyway. Then you're going to look at him? Yeah. I'm just running anyway. That's what you call it. Yo, I got one. Yo, have y'all ever been iced out in a game? Oh, yeah. Like, like, like how they-

Freeze out? Yeah, freeze out. Have they ever freezed you out? 100%. Like, have you ever got it going and they freezed you out? Oh, yeah. It could be pickup. It could be anything.

Hell, yeah. Never? Hell, yeah. I have. I have. At night, now? Yeah, yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, like, you came out hot, and then, like, they just stopped passing you the ball. Yes.

You ain't never heard of it. How do you get a point guard? It could be anything. It could be, like, I mean, it's not, like, I'm just saying it could be a pro-am game. It could be anything. Like, I'm just saying, like, not in the NBA for sure, but I'm just saying. No, I was too petty for that. I called timeout.

Yeah. That shit happened to me. I called timeout. It happened to me twice. Yeah, I had a game against Josh Shelby during the lockout in Baltimore. I came out first 15 and then right after that they didn't pass me the ball because they was like, man, it's Baltimore, this is our thing. Were you playing with the Baltimore squad?

No, no, it was during the lockout year. It was during the lockout and that's when everybody was going around playing. Yeah, for sure. But who was on your team? It was just me, but no other pros. It was KD and Josh Shelby on the other team But you know, I'm coming from Cali and this is when I think like the week later we played, you know La verse y'all was in Baltimore. Yeah, but I'm saying so you play with some like regular Baltimore. Yeah. Yes

I mean, I mean, I mean, but it was just a game They was like, you know Katie in like yo come by I was working at Under Armour and then me and Josh Shelby just had The one-on-one like before then we had It again and I was going at Josh and then like second half. They just like nah No, I see you got too much Cali love you got a brace of Los Angelinos with you. That's yeah, but it's all love though No, it happens bro, right? What was this? I mean summer league summer league. I had 30 1⁄2 I was trying to break that 42 record. Didn't see that moment.

Didn't see it the second half. Randy Ford, Craig Smith, and a couple of others. Didn't see it. Didn't smell it. I was hot. I was hot. I mean, bro, like, yeah. Their NBA, though?

Yeah. Oh, it happened in the real game. The Timberwolves, though. Randy Ford. Bro, do y'all know y'all have timeouts? Oh, I went in at the timeout, bro. I went in, like, I went in at the timeout. I'm not saying the NBA, no, never, or real, but I'm saying, like, a pro-am and, like, no.

You asked me, you be on a fast break. Yes. Getting ready to get a timeout. Timeout, timeout. Let me holler at you. Let me holler at you. I missed the whole fast break. Two on one, timeout, man.

Let's go. Straight up, bro. Let's go. So, check it out. Check it out. Check it out. I missed the whole fast break it to a one timeout Go so check it out Draw play out of half Last question on this segment and you know, we have a little therapy session. What's the most disappointing L you took in your career? Disappointing L Heartbreaking even if you will Probably that that calves game six at home Disappointing ale Heartbreaking even if you will Probably that that Cavs game six at home

in the playoffs where The one everybody see where LeBron did that Because you know I had to hit the three, you know, you know, I had to hit the three to get us to overtime Yeah, I had to us to overtime. And then just how it panned out, just like the Mo Williams, Damon Jones comes into the game, ain't played all, damn it, all series, and then comes in

and hits that shot. And then that ends our season. You still think about it? Yeah, because it's always on Instagram That's the main, anytime you say anything like, you missed some free throws. Missed some free throws! I think me my sophomore year at Dominguez. It was my last game too. I think we lost at in the playoffs against Villa Park? Oh. I think or wait one of them schools

but they came all the way to Compton College and Play us and we lost in Compton at Compton College in our background in front of everybody. That's when I was like, yeah, I'm out of here. I'm leaving. Yeah. And the next year I left Dominguez and went to Oak Hill. Damn. I knew my career.

If y'all would have won that game, you think you would have stayed? Probably not. But just losing to like, I want to, was it Villa Park? It was one of them schools schools but it was like some white boys they came on down and and and killed us and killed us yeah we lost like we lost like last second in Compton College like that's bad it was it was Villa Park see we got an expert research yeah Villa Park yeah we lost it I remember that I was like I'm out of here I'm going to O'Kill I don't take a lot of L's man especially when I get to the place I need to get to we usually take it over the top, but I did take

L last season season one Folks talking about my knockoff shoes They're not Jordans. I took a major L I took a major L. I don't take ales man, but I took a L You know young you me going them and you're out to a major to my ass up. I don't like L's man, but I took a L, you know, yeah, you meet going them and you're out to a major to my ass up I don't like that still I still got a little There's some leaguerie big I see it in the You can't listen you can't and that started with the producers

I even don't say no names, but y'all let that slide y'all let it slide and I took the L Y'all I can't never say I take my else you can't never say I don't take my air You can't say I don't take my air what I'm what I'm saying. Did I turn this off? I'm crying He's in my ear right now say people die every day be you be alright No, I got I got shot on walk the same on wear socks the same on where? Listen, you know your Timberwolves team was not that good right? We were all right No, I'm just saying when you say yeah, you took a move like youwolves team was not that good, right? We were all right. No, I'm just saying.

When you say, yeah, you took a move. Like, y'all wasn't that good. No, no. I'm talking about all the other teams. I'm not talking about NBA teams. Oh, okay. Because I know someone who's averaging like 35 against y'all. I'm just saying, you know. I mean, you know. I didn't want to bring it up. Whoever it was, he didn't guard me.

Whoever it was, he wasn't guarding me. He was guarding Marco Yardge and them. I'm just saying who was guarding him. He was guarding Marco Yardge. Did they ever guard each other? Yeah, he had to get out there. Hey, look, look, look. Yeah, he got there.

He was guarding Marco Yardge. 39, 35. He had to get out there. I was guarding Karan. His little 16 minutes. Karan. Karan. Karan. Karan. get out there. I would go out with Karan. His little 16 minutes. Karan. Karan. Get out.

Ah, ah, ah. Hey, that's Karan and Antoine. Ah, ah, ah. Karan. And I had 21 a couple times. Ah, ah, ah, big fella. You, ah. Mm-hmm.

This ain't what you want, young fella. He was going crazy. This ain't what you want, young fella. He was going crazy. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. But you know, he don't want to switch. Switch.

Yeah, yeah. Switch. Switch. No, no. Time out. Deshaun, come get him. All right. So let's get this thing moving. Let's talk about the current state of the NBA.

So the NBA adjusted the rip-through rule back in 2011, changing it from a shooting foul to a non-shooting foul. Gil, I feel like you're not a fan of that. But now, according to CBS Sports' Colin Warhenegar, the league is taking it a step further. A rip-through that isn't a genuine shot attempt will be deemed a no-call. So we've got some video examples here. Kevin Wayne Durant.

Oh, yeah. They say he's ripped through away from the basket. Oh, yeah. So they're not calling that, and they hear CP3 doing it. I don't know. That's too much. That's too much, CP. So it's specifically in regards to the offensive player either moving the ball upward while facing away from the basket or moving the ball upward

In a direction away from the basket So the moves been a staple in the league and heavily utilized by players like KDC be three other stars Tim Duncan just so we're sorry from Tim. Don't know so thoughts on no calls for rip throughs Are you allowed to hand check? No, right? Nope. No. Okay, so the reason...

You're penalizing the offense again for something that the defense shouldn't be doing. So if you have your hand there and I catch it, right, you don't want to call it now? It just doesn't make sense. So it's not a foul.

So him, this is not legal position. As long as he's not touching him. This is not legal position. So if I come up, so if I come up, that's nothing. Right, right, right. I guess not now. Yeah. I mean, but it goes back to what you said.

Like, why do I have to stop doing what I'm doing? Cuz you stupid is it or like or like, you know, you know, you're blatant You're blatantly go out of the way to try to create a foul. That's what it is You're blatantly going out of your way crazy try to create contact But that's like offensive foul How because you're going out of your way to the defense is being in a stagnant position and you're going out of your way to Create contact that's not a defensive problem. That's an offense trying to create contact. So you think it's going to be an offensive foul?

It's an offensive... They're not giving it an offensive foul. They're giving it a no call. But it would be if you're going to... You used to go to the rack looking for contact and you got that contact and that guy's doing this, that's a foul on him. But they changed it where if he was to get that contact straight up no call right so it's not saying that gill wouldn't get those calls but it would look differently knowing that he's not gonna get that call he gotta finish that now so now we're looking at instead of you just getting this foul right here it's a no call bro what are you doing you could travel now so so this is good defense then I guess yeah now

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah Yeah, unless you're fouling like what's the foul if you rip if you're ripping through while I'm doing this How is that a foul because you're not really going to do nothing I mean, I just feel like if you're able to do this then we should be at a hand check then As long as I'm not touching you Long as I not this is just like a fabricated defense just like anything else it's just in your way just to get you to so if you have your hands out like this right and then i get clotheslined by it that's not a foul that is a foul why because you're this is your defensive position you're trying to stop me with

part of your body and if you like you do run into this and underhook it and all that, yeah. So what's the difference between here? It ain't. The difference is is you're going out of your way to create that contact. You're just running beside him. See, it's like, why are we penalizing someone

for being smart? It's no different than I'm coming in lane and then pump fake, right? You jump and then I jump into you. Foul. Right?

Foul. Okay? Foul. Okay. Stay down. You're supposed to be a defensive player. Stay down. You know this is not legal. It is. Don't let me catch it.

It is legal. No, this is not legal defense. Why not? You're not supposed to do that. What you mean? They say your defense is supposed to be like this, right? No, no, no, no, no. I didn't get taught to play defense.

No, no, no, no, no. I get taught to play defense. No, no, no, no, no. If I'm playing, if I'm guarding Gil, if I'm guarding you, one for a flat, and I got to guard you before you put it down. I'm guarding you here. Okay. Now, if you want to do, you're not shooting the ball. You're just trying to get the foul. Move your hand.

No, for what? For what? So this is right here... But you're not making a move towards the basket. But even if I don't even make it, let's just do that. If I have it like this, that's not a foul? That is a foul. When it becomes a foul? That's a foul, yes. Okay, so when does it become a foul? That's what I'm saying. So how long does it be before it becomes a foul?

You're not shooting. You're just trying to create contact. They took that off. They took off the shooting foul. You're right. So now, if I just hold it here and he just has his hand on her, that's considered a foul. So why take off the whole movement? Just say foul. Boom're right. So now, if I just hold it here and he just has his hand on her, that's considered a foul. So why take off the whole movement? Just say foul.

Boom. Yeah. How come the best defenders don't get caught like this? We're not talking Klay don't get caught like that. You know, Pat Bev don't get caught like that.

Kawhi don't get caught like that. The best of the best. So what happens is the best defenders don't get caught. The best offensive players catches the best. So what happens is the best defenders don't get caught. The best offensive players catches the weak. Right? There's things on the

defensive end that the defense gets away with against weaker offensive players. Right? So what you're doing is you're trying to make bad defensive players look better. You can't. Right? You're full court in the penalty. Think. Right? You're full court.

In the penalty. Think about it. You're full court in the penalty picking someone up. What do you think is going to happen? A foul. He's going to try to get a foul. If you're sticking me full court and we're in the penalty, my whole job while you're sticking me is to try to get a foul. I'm trying to get so I can just walk and get a free throw line get free throws

So why are you penal it penalizing me for being smarter than the guy in front of me? Well, here's the reason That defensive tactic this one particularly is one to frustrate the offensive player There's not a lot you can do if I'm playing defense like this and you're not trying to swipe through. I can get to your shot. I can affect your dribble. I can do everything in my power here without getting a foul to crowd your space. Usually when you see KD doing that, he looks frustrated. That's a guy who's guarding him that's frustrating him that he's like, get him off me so I can get some room. Now the defender, if he gets that foul, he has to back up now. Now I know KD is on this. I got to give him more space.

Right? That's the smarts that you're talking about. But they're taking that away now because, KD, you're supposed to be good enough to be able to get to your spots without this frustration. But you should be able to stop me without that tactic. Like, that's what I said. That's the only tactic we got because they're calling the knick-knack fouls on the drive. I can't already guard you already. If I see

the best defenders, the elite defenders complaining about this, then yeah, it makes sense. But you're changing the rule for... Niggas can't play defense. You're taking away everything that has to do with understanding rules.

Like if I'm driving and it says no hip check, right? You can't hip check me, right? Now if I'm driving and you're hip checking me and I catch your arm, I caught him. I caught him in the cookieies are caught the foul right? Why don't say oh Like I used to do this thing like, you know how you just sit there and then someone has this hand and I'll slap Yes, yes, right and then a river like first of us say get your hand get your hand off of them And I'm alright get it off right and he put it back on get it off They'll call

Offensive offensive. Oh, dude. You just told him to get it off twice and then he stood for the reason I'm smacking it is because you're telling him get it off call the first one. I don't have to have the reaction Yeah, and I think that's the problem. They don't they're not calling the first initial foul. You're penalizing the person for reacting Yeah, that's what I don't like about rest Like if if the hand is on and you smack it, it's either a no call or you called the first one. Stop calling the guy who's reacting to something that's illegal. Yeah, or the guy who's more hostile, looking more hostile.

For sure. I guess on the flip side of that though, so now it's not a foul anymore, but as an offensive player, you can still do that rip through for a no call. Is that kind of your way of slapping your hand off? Yeah, because the rip off? Like a front. Yeah, because the rip through can be, like you said, the rip through can be a pass. Like what if you're trying to pass? And then so what, now it's nothing because you're trying to pass?

That's what I said. So now it's nothing, so now it's like a turnover? Yeah, that's what I said. It's like there's no contact, but the problem is, the problem that's going to happen is offensive players just too fucking smart. They're smarter than what you're trying. So now you got someone doing this, right? You got someone doing this. Come on. Right?

And I come here, right? And you're going to sit there and then I'm just going to go forward. 100%. I'm going to just go forward. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to swipe up and just hold him and then I'm going to go forward because he's sitting there like this the whole time. But that's the adjustment that the offense needs to make though. In order for it to not look like KD and CP where it's so blatantly obvious that you're trying to get the foul now you have to change your

offensive tactic step through make it look more like a shot and a foul and it's like hey get him up i'm just gonna i'm just he's gonna hold it out i'm just gonna hit his arm they're not gonna call it then i'm just gonna drive because he can't do nothing like this yeah i'm gonna hold it up there and then just drive on them Oh, yeah, so I mean there's a way basically obviously this wrote rule I think was meant to punish offensive players for doing that by making a no-call But now if you can use that to your advantage, which you say People who make the rules ain't playing basketball

They're looking at something That's part of a bigger thing. Like Tim Duncan used it. Like the reason I'm using it is to back it up. Now if you back it up, I can shoot. Yep. Right? Now when I shoot, now you're going to do this.

Now I can do that. Right? It's a chess game. So all this is is you throw that. All I'm doing is just going to hold it. It didn't go. It makes it easier for me. Yeah, I might not get the three or the free throw, but I'm going to burn him every time.

Let me say this, though. As a one-on-one player, when we're playing ones, there's certain tactics as a defender that you give us that we got to identify immediately, right? So if you're playing that type of defense, we got to identify it and go to a whole other bag. Because we know this type of defense, All right, that's what you want Okay, so I know I'm gonna have to hit you with with the with the fake joint You can have your hand in there. I got to make sure as soon as you come back. I'm up with it I got like it changes my bag, but it doesn't change the the tactic of how to get past you I'm still trying to get by you look to the second level of defense

But if you're gonna play like this, I know you're gonna you have more of a chance of fouling me than you do of defending me. Yeah chop down Instead of the guy go instead of us going up all you do just chop down down. Yeah, right I'm gonna hold it here instead of going this this way, I'm gonna just go this way. It goes drive. Yep. What happened to this? Remember this when we were younger? To close out?

To close out. They dig, they dig. Dig, dig. Keep it right here, keep it right here. Keep it right here. Keep it here, like, a whole life. Did that dude ever really actually do anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can hear it.

He stopped a lot of crossovers, or he did not. Ron Artest, Ron Artest, give me that. Right over, and then right here, it came right over. Yeah Right over and then right here came right over you right over the top Same thing remember defensive players when you shoot and they do all this Yeah, right offensive players realize soon as you do this. I'm gonna go forward Wow Then that's when they stop doing that. Now you don't do that no more because offensive players work all summer on defensive ruling. Defensive players don't spend no time trying to guard offensive players in the summer. So you're saying offensive players are basically scammers, though.

They're always like, we always have a new scam. You never know the scam. I'm talking about shoot the ball and foul yourself while you're shooting that good. Yeah. Hey, ref. That's sick. Hey, ref. Hey. Hey.

I respect you. I mean, when we talk about points of emphasis, do we think like refs are some like deep dark layer just watching footage? Who can we hate on this season? No, they are. Who can we hate on this season? Can you still... Oh, my bad. Yo, can you still hit somebody's hand after they shoot? No. I remember when I first came in, my rookie year, I was playing against Mike Bibby.

He used to tell me, he was like, yo, you know, when you shoot, just hit their hand after. That's a double. Why even do it? Because it's not gone. Yeah, but it was just different. I was just like, after our shot, I was like, what are you doing? He was like, you can do it. Like like he was like you could do it What's so funny is like when I see kids do that right you shoot there do this right or they hit your knee

Yeah, and I used to say why? Why what's the point of that? I said it's pointless because One you didn't challenge the shot to if a ref sees it. They're gonna possibly call a foul You just got a foul for no reason now. he shoots. It's just a dumb thing. Like, if you didn't, you wasn't there close enough. Move. Just, yeah, yeah, whatever. But sitting here doing little shit like that, it's just dumb.

Either challenge your shot or just keep running by. Just a little thing. It's just dumb. I'm in your head. It's uneducated. I'm in your head. That's it. Sometimes it works.

Yeah. Maybe not for a player who's mentally strong like you. I'm young. Right? Because we play for that. Like, I used to tell my trainer to hit me on my leg, make sure you hit me on the elbow every single time I shoot, just so I'm familiar with what it feels like,

so it don't throw me off mentally. But some guys, you can do that. Hit them in the hand, bump them on the side, come down like they about to fall on your feet. They looking down before they land. Like, I'm trying to figure out. I used to sell that. I used to be falling off.

When do they know it's not a shooting foul? Like how are they going to determine it's not a shooting foul? Yeah. So I think based on what this is just coming off of, so specifically in regards to the offensive player, either moving the ball upward while facing away from the basket or moving the ball upward in the direction away from the best I think that's the more point away from the best go as you're doing it away from so you're not going into it

Actual shot, but I don't know man. We might have a lot of what I'm saying a lot of challenges this year What I'm saying is how many people? What they need to do is look at how many shots when a guy doesn't do it and they shoot and Look at that percentage. Yeah. Because if this is how some people shoot because this, cause you're going to practice that, that becomes that person's regular shot, right? If you're saying now we're just, I get the ball here and I'm supposed to just go straight up and shoot and that's my form. Yeah. When I'm by myself and there's nobody there, but if there's a defensive guy doing this, he's doing this.

So how am I supposed to just. 1945, his hand's right here. His hand's right here. Why am I going to go straight up? That's what I'm saying. I have to go around the arm. Like, what are you talking about? It's not.

You see Joker. Joker sits there and do this. And then, you know, he figures out how to get around his arm. It just doesn't make sense So if I'm in if I turn in face, right if I'm turning face and he's sitting there doing this and then I'm right under the Basket I do one of those that's not a foul shooting foul. What is that? No call now, I guess It's triple threat. Stop making hard decisions. No, that's true. It's a hard decision. You come down and do this, right? Yeah. So that means we got to take it way up here now.

So now you got to go like this instead of just being able to. Tactically, as a defender, I'll be going against these dudes at 24. You do the little simple like that. It makes them have to. They uncomfortable. You got to shift it. But look, we know triple threat, though. Right hip, keep it here.

If he got that there, you got to hit this elbow when I'm coming up That's a stupid D I look at them like you being stupid on defense cuz now I know I'm gonna score you because you're playing defense like this You think you got an advantage, but you don't cuz if we had rats foul foul foul Anybody's a defense like this can't play this is a triple trip I just say it's like they're taking out triple threats. You're taking out swing-throughs. Like, if I'm swinging, like, Jordan does. Yep.

And then he comes up. Dirt, too. Dirt with the... Right over top. I need to... And I'm going to go next time and then come up. Like, it's just... So, basically, you can just do this all year.

That's what I'm saying. You can just do this all year. And that's the advantage for the defense. You can just... So, basically, I'm just do this all year. That's what I'm saying. And that's the advantage for the defense. So basically, I'm just doing this all year. All year. Stay close. Like you're trying to get a five-second call. You're going to get your ass barbecue. Imagine if the NBA could do the five-second call like college.

Like, you could get the defensive five-second call just by getting close, being close. Five seconds. Give me five seconds. Give me five seconds. That shit would be dope. All right five seconds. Give me five seconds. That should be dope Let's keep this thing moving. So last American board player to win MVP was James Harden in 2018 Giannis wanted to after that Joker wanted to after that and be one last year and be technically American Maybe he's American or the Cameroon though American

So heading into this season the top five favorites for MVP are Joker, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, and Embiid. So it brings me to my question, which American born player will win MVP next? Because they out there hating on us, we have to assemble like the Avengers to give them this work in the Olympics. Who has a legitimate chance? Like who has the legit chance to actually win the MVP? Tatum record would be good, so you got Tatum.

Let me give you, based on- Zion, baby! Mm-hmm. Zion! Because if he comes in, if he's averaging about, which he does, 27 and he's 11, 10, and his team is two, three, he can probably sneak in there. Yeah, we're going to talk Zion in a second. John Morant was closest, bro.

But he's not eligible now. I'm just saying, just for his style of play, his style of play, he can get them votes. I think he can get them votes with his style of play. So here are the odds based on the odds makers that love to make bread in order. These are just American players. American born players, excuse me. Tatum, KD, Steph, Booker, AD, Donovan Mitchell, Dame. AD, Steph, Booker.

Booker and KD gone. AD, Donovan Mitchell, Dame, Ann Edwards, and De'Aaron Fox. Dame, no. See, now that teams, now that,, now that these guys have teamed up, it's kind of hard because there's two stars, right? So I'm pretty sure Brown is not in there, and he's with Tatum. You know what I mean?

So you have to think of someone who's going to put up numbers and their team is going to be within first, second, or third. So that gives you Tatum. That gives you... You can get Anthony Davis if LeBron actually swings over that and he's averaging about 27, 28, and 12. KD's not going to have the stats like that. Why you got that face, bro?

He's not going to have the stats with Booker and Beal. AD, MVP. If LeBron gives him the... He can hand going to have the stats with Booker and Beal. AD, MVP. I know. If Braun gives him the... He can hand it to him. It still ain't going to happen. If they have the record, you don't think he averaged 27? Hey, Brandon acting like somebody just farted in here.

I'm just saying, you don't think he averaged 27 and 12? To be MVP, you got to be top six, right? So you think Lakers are going to be in the Western Conference? No, that's what I'm saying. If they won two and three... Wait, you don't think the Lakers are top six in the West right now? Well, they're not going to be top three. So that means the MVP's out.

But I'm saying we don't know. No, no. But I'm just saying. No, no, no, we do know. I just saw Phoenix last night and I just saw Phoenix. We didn't know Sacramento and Memphis were going to be two and three either. Shit happens. You know what I mean?

During the regular season. I'm just saying if Lakers is one, two, three, and he's averaging 27 and 12 after what he's been doing the last couple years. Is that enough compared to the stat stuff that we're seeing? Yeah, but you got to play over 60-something games. These Europeans are stat stuffing, bro. If you really think about Giannis numbers and B numbers and Joker numbers, right? These guards is not gonna be able to facilitate better numbers to be able to be considered bigger than the big three

These gonna be the big three for the next five years Yeah I must say I don't see a American player getting it for a minute and Luca Luca buzzing into the fourth spot Lucas for now Because what happens Lucas team is never gonna be good enough for him to get it all they gotta be is top six Are you got to be to me for MVP? All you got to be is just solidified but topics was over top six is Recent because you know players has gotten it with records like what was Lucas numbers triple-double numbers No, let me see you can't get MVP if you plan in the playing game to make the to make a play no

No, no, of course not But what I'm saying is Russ got it it when he averaged his triple-double because that was different. And then they gave it to Joker when he was what's-his-name. Then they gave it to MB when he was third. So, I mean, really,

you have to really be doing something just so different. It's the numbers, though. So, Luka was 32-9-8 last season. 32-9-8. Those are MVP numbers, bro. Yeah, but his team is going to be bad. He's a point guard. But his team is going to be bad. But he's the point guard. We've already seen Russ do that.

That's what I'm saying. That's why you've got to at least acknowledge it because we've seen Russ do it. Joker was 25-12-10. Russ averaged a triple-double. But not with 30 a game. Yeah, he did. 30-11-11. 31-11-10. Wait, MVP year? Yes. His triple-double year, he was 31-11-11. 31-11-10. Wait, MVP year? Yes.

His triple W year, he was 31-11-10. So you would have to give it to Luka at that point, bro. And then what American players are putting up numbers like that? What was that, 2017? 31-11-10. So I'm going to give him 32-11-10. 31.6. Oh, yeah, so we already saw it.

Yeah, we already seen that. So Luka's seen that. That's the criteria for Luka. You get here, and 10. 31.6. We already saw it. We already seen that. That's a criteria for Luka. You get here, you consider. No, that's a criteria for any point guard. Any point guard. Luka's the only closest point guard to get there. That's what I said.

They're going to give it to, like, if John Moran averages, let's just say if he was healthy this year, and it was like first or second, and he averaged like 25, 10, and 8. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, when D-Rose won his, I mean, he averaged 23. Yeah, 23 points.

It was just magnificent out there. It looked great. That's why I say John could be that. Yeah, he was more of that. It was just such a powerful 23. Yes. And that's how John 23 is. It was beautiful, too.

I still got nightmares of that. I got Four times a year Zion because of how Zion's been you know, he's been in and out and he ain't been playing Well, if he playing 65 games, we already know what his numbers gonna be Let's talk like Tatum the guys like that, you know something's gonna be top two top three in the East But you feel like they've got this big three slash big 3.5 with Porzingis, is that going to hurt his MVP chances? Depend on... Nah.

It's so hard because we don't know what the criteria is. It's like, is it the best player on the best team? Is that what we're doing? You know what I mean? Is it your numbers versus last year? Are you having an MVP year? It's weird. I think it depends on who we're talking about, too.

I think with that team, with Tatum if they go One two in the East He can be considered with whatever numbers he got Because it's a team because it's a team thing because he's happening to decrease his numbers for the team to win because they got new Two new pieces. So when you're adding two new pieces that could potentially be Effective enough for you to with a championship, you don't want to isolate them. You want to bring them into the fold. Give him credit for that.

So if you're number one most of all year, you end up finishing second, you go to the Eastern Conference finals, right? And your team becomes number one this year and you're having below the numbers you had before Are you really MVP? Depending on what those numbers look like if those numbers are 26 7 & 8 26 7 & 7 when you average 29 Yes, she's stealing the fold 30 9 30 30 point 1 points 9 rebounds 4.6 assists last season

He dropped down to 27 27 in your team, you just win two more games? But we go to the chip. But that's before. We do that before. He probably needs more rebounds, more assists. But that's what I'm saying. There's some guys where it's like when Dirk won his, I'm like, y'all went to the championship, y'all lost,

so coming into the season, you was the second best team in the NBA. Miami was in front of you with Shacknam. They all got hurt, which means you're the number one team. So you're 23-24, and that wasn't really an MVP year. But was it? Because you just came off a loss of getting there. Yeah, but your team is number one already.

But you're maintaining a consistency there now it's a consistency of you losing out the last year you bringing your team back and it's just as effective and you take them all the way i thought it was most valuable player you take their valuable player on the best team or most valuable player in the league? Because if you say the league, then you have to use the metrics of, if I take these players off their team, how good are they? That's why Dirk got it.

Because if you took them off that team, they're not considered. That's why he was the most valuable. Because if they was number one and you got Dirk, you take him off, they're not number one. You got to consider them. What are they? They're still a playoff team?

Number six. They're still a playoff team? It's because they're Dallas. They're not OKC. It's just some years they get it wrong. It's just some years you'll be like,

hmm. Could Dame get MVP? In Milwaukee? Why? One, because Giannis' face is going to be in front of everything, right? But since he's going to be the lead dog, he might drop down to 28. What is Dame going to have, about 26, 25?

So are they going to give that? What if Dame is averaging like 29, 26, 27, 28, and he got the ball in his hands the last five minutes, and they're winning because of him. He's hitting like game winners. Have we ever seen that before? I mean, we could. Where the number one option goes to the number two option?

Kobe. Kobe Shaq. You never got MVP. No, but I mean, he could. Shaq got the MVP. Yeah, Shaq got it every year. But I'm just saying, I feel like the way he plays, though, is different. Shaq was more like, get it in.

Like if Dame averages 30 and Giannis averages 25 or 26, then yeah. But as long as Giannis is in the front, they're going to always have him as that forefront. Here's the question. Do you think Giannis will be in the front of Dame this season? Yeah. Giannis brings a lot to the table. What he does is so easy, man. It's just easy for him.

It just depends on what game. It just depends on what game he's shooting from. But how much easier is it going to be for Dame now to be on a squad like this where you can't really double? No, no, look, Dame is going to do his thing, but Giannis scores so easy. I understand. But he's doing it so easy. So he's going to get to the free throw line all day.

He's going to get easy putbacks. He's going to do this, rolls. So he's going to get it. I mean, it could be if he pulls a Steve Nash, if he pulls a Steve Nash with a Mari type of thing where he's averaging like 15 and 13 assists... Who, Dane? Yeah.

What I'm saying is he averaging 13 assists just passing that ball to Giannis the whole time. If he does one of those, because it's something he's never done, and he averages like 13 assists with the 15, he can be like Steve Nash. But Giannis not getting buckets like that. Them Joel Embiid buckets you talking about,

just giving it to Giannis. Like, it's going to be... Not just pick and roll, doc. Yeah, nah, that's the emphasis. We emphasizing, we emphasizing, one, double this pick and roll. We emphasizing early rotation on Giannis. And anytime both of them are being the element of defense, we making the other side

beat us. They're going to beat us on the other side. Nah, this ain't 19. You've got to beat us on the other side. This ain't the 90s, man. Hey, listen. Dame not going to beat us. others. I say the 90s man. Hey listen Dame not gonna beat us. Y'all is not gonna beat us playoff basketball. Y'all gonna have to go to the other side I have Middleton on other side. Yeah, we gonna let middle to have a middle to go But y'all gotta have a great Bobby Portis y'all gotta have they gonna have you gotta have a great game This ain't nothing they never see it. I did. Oh, yeah Last playoffs when they couldn't make that adjustment.

This ain't nothing. They couldn't make that adjustment last playoffs. This ain't nothing. Hey, they got what, 4-1? 4-1? Get out of here. Get out of here. I don't want to hear it.

I want to hear it. I want to hear nothing about that drop pass. We done seen this before. Giannis, guys. Dame going to have to pick up pieces that he's never seen before, which is having another all-star Hall of Famer beside him. And both of y'all being the element of we got to stop. Both of y'all now, where are you going to get the major amount of your points now?

You got to adjust the way you've never adjusted before. First of all, you ain't doubling Dame. You're not doing that. You're not doing that. Our emphasis on Dame is stronger than it was when you was in Portland by yourself. No, that's easier because we can just double you. Our emphasis is stronger. You can't.

Because you got two guys that we got to focus on. What I'm saying is, it's easier to double me when I have no one. You can triple team me, you can quadruple team me when I have no one.

The fact that I have a dude now I can pick and roll with, you can't double me and just let him roam. That's what I'm saying. We wasn't doubling you in Portland like that. Yeah, you was. Not like that.

We was letting you rock. That's why you was rocking like that. That's not how that works. Yeah, but that's how it is how it works Oh, he got for him in poor. Oh, he got doubled off the pick and roll came back Rescreen and ain't no double no more switch on the big and let me get my thing Now it's look we got a double both of these there today the most dangerous duo we've seen we cannot let them beat us How you gonna double both? Quick, early rotations. Quick, early rotations. We have to give up something.

Chris Middleton? We got to give up something. Oh, I love that. And listen, defensive rotation is get your ass out there. Rotate. Oh, I love that. Get out there. You see how hard it was for Miami?

It wasn't hard at all. Miami is the best rotating team and they did it every single game, every series. They got creamed by Denver trying to act. Listen, that's because Denver was the only team well-oiled enough to do it because they had a passing center.

You got a passing center, they're going to eat you up. Giannis is not that. Giannis is not Joker. He's not going to make you pay Like Joker going to make you pay But he's fast Yes he's fast He's all of that But if we show a body coming across

He got a decision to make But I feel like He got a decision to make I feel like the pick and roll Wouldn't even be with him and Giannis all the time It would be like with Brooke Lopez And that pick Brooke Lopez can pass

He can You talking about Giannis ducking in Or he's just facing out We're letting him shoot the corner three. He ducks in good luck Brooke not rolling. We don't need to roll he can write exactly Brooke Brooke. So we just rotate early rotation. Not an early rotation Bro work. We gotta give up something Real defense. No, this is real defense do we wrote a word against the Phoenix Suns? with the Maury and like you just saying 2000 when I was at a Maury and Steve Nash and trying to guard that pick-and-roll

While you have someone coming out of the corner while you have someone coming out of the corner, right? Who's trying to hold he can't hold now the other man got a hold then they made a twist where when I'm coming across This man flashes up they make that hundred percent They make that pass with Grant Hill coming up the... And then Amari's still rolling. Dump that. He's on your head. The reason that stopped...

On your head. We was able to stop that after, what, 2009, 2010? That wasn't... It's because we were actually rotating early to Amari, making Amari, if he got it, make a little jump or pass it to the corner. It was one of 50-some games. That's what...

Listen, listen. But I'm saying, but it stopped at some point because we all recognized how... It got old. It got old, and we recognized how to stop it. No, they got old. Hold on. Rajah Bell's shooting that shot now, man. No, they got old.

We're letting that go because you got to put him in the game. We're giving him up. They got that up. They got... Jared Dudley's shooting threes, bro. We letting that go. He wasn't even playing. Boris Diaw.

Boris Diaw, we letting that go. They with us. You got rid of Q and Joe Johnson. Q and Joe Johnson, it was working. When you got rid of him. That's what I'm saying, though. We got to see what it's going to do. Damien Giannis is a better pick and roll than Steve Nash.

So I'm just letting you know that. Oh, no. I'm just letting you know that. No, Steve Nash. Steve can dime it, man. Steve Nash had this thing ready. No, and Dame has that thing. He does.

Dame got that thing. I know he got that thing, but he... I just like... Dame got that thing. Dame and Nash had that thing. I'm just rolling with... You know, I just think, you know, Dame and Giannis... I think Giannis is a better...

He has... He's a better picker. When he's driving, he has better footwork and understands how to use his body better than Amari did. Yeah. I think Dame is a better scorer. That's why you're not going to be able to stop him when he's doing a pick and roll. Who's the shooting guard?

Who? Milwaukee? Mm-hmm. Chris Middleton? No, no. It's Pat Connaughton. Oh, Pat Connaughton. Yeah.

What I'm doing is I either put Pat in the corner. He can shoot. Oh Pat content. Yeah, what I'm doing is I'm a lady. I even put Pat in the corner He's you I'm do the pick and roll when Yannis drop when the Yannis dives and he try to help He's coming up for the shot If not if they got this cuz this guy helped the only way to stop this and guard this is if that guy helps So we doing the up screen you talking about the up screen from the top side of screen side screen roll at the top So I just read a roll on the side on the? Side screen roll on the side. On the top. Oh, you're on the side. Yeah. You're on the side, pick and roll.

We're corner field? Yeah, corner field. All right, corner field with a top. Brooke lifted? I got Brooke lifted. All right. And then I got Middleton in the corner. In the corner.

Boom, boom, boom. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. Who in the corner? You said Pat in the corner. Yeah. Pat in my corner. Pat in your corner.

All right, we leaving that. Okay, coming up. We're leaving that. Yeah, we're slow rotating back to Pat. Cash. Yeah, he got to hit it. He got to hit it. That's fine. The weakest league on the floor, we're going to make him hit that shot. And then what ends up happening is, like, if he's guarded, all I'm doing is just going to swing to Lopez.

He's going to pass to the corner, run right into a pick and roll with Middleton and Lopez. We can guard that. No, we can't. We can guard that. You can't guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't guard. If Pat's not shooting, he's driving. He's catching and driving. We need that. Because we we can't. We can guard that. You can't guard that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can't guard that. If Pat not shooting, he driving. He's catching and driving. We need that. Because we got the whole paint clogged up based on our rotations to Giannis, right? That's what I mean. So our rotations early to Giannis is going to clog the paint and force an outside pass. Four shooters?

Yeah. No, three. I'm not counting Pat as no shooter. He out here to defend. No, he out there to shoot. He out here to defend. He out there to shoot that game. No way. No way. Pat, you hear him? You're not getting no shooter. He out here to defend. No, he out there to shoot. He out here to defend. No way. No way. Pat, you hear him? You're not getting no shots. Pat. You're not

getting no shots, Pat. Them Dame shots. You're giving it to him. He's going to get a lot of shots this year. That's why we take the ball out of Dame's hand so he can give it to Pat. Let it go. Okay. Get Pat off bird. So, let's talk a little bit about... Get Pat off bird. You said earlier establishing a criteria. We never

really know what it is. It shifts from year to year. We think we know. Then some other stuff happens. So does there need to be a set criteria for MVP? And if so, what should that criteria be? There's a criteria that everybody knows they can't read. Right? That's just point blank.

I guess just like anything, when it's narrowed down to the last three or four players, that's when they should start doing the real voting and we should see who's voting. Be transparent. Why is there so much secrecy on And we should see who's voting Mm-hmm Like be transparent Why is there so so much secrecy on? We should see who's voting and who they voted for. Yep, and why?

Public don't walk and why and why did a public down? So we know who vote for who? We do. Yeah, so who did Kendrick Kendrick? Yeah We do? Yes. So who did Kendrick vote for? Yeah, who did Kendrick? Kendrick Perkins. So if it's public, then that's cool then. Yeah, I think it is a list. It comes out after the war. Oh, after the war. But here's the bigger problem. You have a lot of people I don't feel like should be MVP voters.

Like, they're giving an MVP vote, and they don't really know what they're watching. As far as the media you're talking about? I'm saying, somebody in the media that- Gil deserves a vote. vote what I think Gil deserves I'm bummed should be old old players, but that's tough because you guys are haters. So for the most part now But now we're not you you we can't open Not necessarily you're not you're not Hating on something. You're not a part of players in real time or hate. Yeah for sure right bigger head

Yeah, media will hate because they have to interact with the player and if a player don't give them the interview Yes, that's what I'm saying. Not messing with them like it's it's at a point where You're trying to protect history right like Joker wasn't voted this year it's because they're trying like jordan like jordan didn't have three in a row you can't do that that's not how you can't do that but they gave bird what but bird three but that's what i'm saying you can't stay one but you can't try to protect history stop it right history is supposed to be broken yeah stop trying to protect it and control it like you know and i think some of the voters are the older generations that are trying to protect legacies.

Like, vote. I'm telling you, man. Vote on it. Make it make sense. If it don't make sense, it's... Gil, you asked Perk voted for Giannis. Say that again? Perk voted for Giannis.

You asked who Perk voted for in the MVP last year. He put Giannis at the 1st place. And put some respect on Larry Bird's name, Joe. Stop fucking playing around. Stop fucking playing around. You want to know the full list of Perk votes? So he made the biggest problem with Joker and Embiid. And voted for Giannis.

And then vote for Giannis? Yes, he did. That's your man's. So his order was Giannis won Embiid 2, Joker 3, Tatum 4, Donovan Mitchell 5. Oh, he wasn't giving KD no love. Wait, wait, wait. So you went on... He gave Donovan Mitchell five. Oh, he wasn't giving KD no love. Wait, wait, wait. So you went on... He gave Donovan, yeah.

To say how MB was in front of Jokic and then you vote someone else. And how Jokic was Pat Statton. It's that bad. Pat, that's the... Whoever said that on TV the first time should just not be in sports. Pat Statton, like, does coaches Pat Statton wins when they're trying to get a win? Hey, we calling it Pat Statton.

We calling it Pat Statton from now on. Pat Statton. Pat Statton. Pat Statton. It's Pat Statton, bro. Fast stat. Fast stat. Did anybody say David Robinson was doing that when he needed all those points and they was giving him the ball for the 72 so he can take the leading score? Did anybody say that then? Nope.

Did anybody say that? Did anybody say that any time when John Stockton was making passes when he has layups to get to break assist registers and draw, no one was saying it then. Talk about it. No one was saying it then. Don't say that now because players are like someone's getting rebounds. There's 10 people, right? And I'm out hustling nine of them, and that's a problem?

If you're Russell Westbrook. And that's a problem that I'm going up there. If Dennis Rodman was doing it, no problem. No problem. If a shot block leader goes to block shots, let's just say I have Shaq right here, and I go here trying to get blocks to break this block record and I'm giving up backside Paul again, no one would say nothing. Yep

No one would say nothing Because they can't they can't see how he's hurting the team by trying to get these blocks It's a selfish thing to get the blocks Right and you're giving up weak side rebounds and weak side points no one no one would ever say anything about that thanks because because they're not LeBron James or Russell Westbrook it just is that I'm gonna be real this is where this culture of the ring culture snap padding all that side it was Russ Abilene triple-doubles right three three out of four C or, whatever it was.

Now, to your point, he's rebounding too hard. Rebounding too hard. What is Joker patting his stats with assists? Yeah. He's passing the ball too well. Because he didn't prove that. He didn't go, he didn't, like, you gotta go into detail. Like, tell us how. I'm passing. How is he

doing it? How is he doing it? Tell us how. So we can do it. He's being unselfish. So we can do it. I'm trying to figure out what it is. Is he being too unselfish? Like. How is he? How is he doing it? How is he doing it? Tell us how he so we can be an unselfish. We can do it. I'm trying to figure out what is he being too unselfish? Like what is it? What is the criteria? My just when he's changing the game when Steve when Steve Nash, I mean when Steve Kerr right was going for that record Was that 73? Yeah, the 70s that wasn't Patent the stats on your on your on your wins wins? Knowing that you're chasing that? I'm trying to figure out. Oh, look at them beating Trash Chase.

Look at them beating Trash T. Oh, they want to win. Look at them beating him. They're not wrestling none of their players. Look at them. They're not wrestling none of their players. They don't take them out after they're up 20. It just makes no sense.

It was dumb. It was dumb. I'm trying to get deflections. You know, Kawhi Leonard, he's trying to make too many stops. He's trying to win defensive player of the year, so he's guarding the best players. Come on. Patting the stats on the defensive end. I dare you.

What are we talking about? Play the game. If I have a guy that can give me 20, 20, and 20 every game, do it. All right. All right. If I have another player who can get rebounds, hey, 20, you got 20, you got 20 for me, go get it. That means I ain't got to worry about losing an offensive rebound. What are we talking about here?

These people are dumb. All right. All right. Let's keep this thing moving and shaking. Get him. Get him. Yeah. Before you know it and shaking. Get them, girl, get them. Yeah. Before you know it.

Yeah, get them. Hey, students, hey, students, don't try to get 100% on the test. You're patting your grades. Don't try to be an A student. You're patting your grades. B minus. You don't get a B, B plus, D plus. You got to make this.

You know, some people like this. The red flags. Everybody who's getting Fs and Ds, they're going to be like they go like there you teach it, but you study it too much Making it too obvious you got a plus you didn't miss none I'm smart School we do have those people right yeah, they make it funny they study too much Y'all say you start you trying to do you trying to do too much you try hard but you're here reading again Is that you trying hard you in here reading again? You don't want to play Xbox

You're doing you reading again again the game high no cheering for you No cheering for them like I tell my kid you don't want to be no cool kid cuz cool kids be at the game Watching you not trying to be cool. I'm cool. You know they come in all high That's a bar I don't want to be no cool cool kids the one that bought the tickets for the game watching you You don't want to be that person in class sitting back like look y'all y'all trying to be smart Y'all try to get the good grades, going to college and stuff. Yeah. In the back of the class.

In the back. Yeah, you going. You in the gym all day. Yeah, trying to go to the NBA, trying to get them grades. You reading in front of the class. Welcome to McDonald's. How may I help you? McDonald's a fine job.

Yeah. All right. All right. First off. Fix that damn ice cream machine. Customer service, dude. But a name you mentioned earlier in the MVP discussion, Zion Williamson. So let's talk a little bit about Zion.

No doubt that Zion Williamson is an absolute dog. Last season before his injury, he was averaging 26, 7, and 5, 29 games. Pelicans were one of the top teams in the West. So this summer while rehabbing and battling a spiteful side boo, Zion shunned traditional media by pulling up to Gil's Arena to talk about the steps he's taking to get his game right. So the diet piece, I'm always able to come back each summer feeling good, looking good, but I would say it's more of just locking it on like flexibility, band work, because I think it's those things that will be able to keep me on the court

longer versus just losing a bunch of weight And they come into play not being able to maintain us. So just I mean shit Bron got the blueprint Serious like I Think everybody took that wrong. Mm-hmm when he said Bron got the blueprint I don't think everybody was realizing what when he said Braun got the blueprint. I don't think everybody was realizing what he was saying. Braun got the blueprint of keeping your body oiled very well.

Taking care of me. Right, taking care of your body. Because, you know, I mean, he's 39, 38, 39. So, yes, he has the blueprint of staying healthy. Like, you know, when he said, I spend a million dollars on my body, you have players now, football players. I spend a million dollars on my body. Right. As a young guy, you don't know that. So when you're talking about trying to be a great.

Now you have a blueprint to look at. Right. OK, look, look, 39 years old. He still looks young. I need to follow his regimen. Even though I don't have the same body type, that's not the issue. What he does, he has a team in play.

All year long, he's taking care of his body. He's eating, right? He's doing these things. Like, how often do you go out? Oh, once during the season? Oh, I bet. Like, you know what I mean? Like, how many, like, you have someone who's done it.

Right? So when people are like, oh, man, put your own blueprint. How? His blueprint is what he's doing right now. He don't know nothing. What is a 21-year-old, 22-year-old supposed to know when they get into the NBA? We don't know nothing. Yeah.

Right? We just got out of college. He gave us money for the first time. Yeah, we trying to ball out. We trying to do the things that we all, we dreamed of. Right. So if someone has a blueprint, if someone can help me, you know, make this curve faster, like how, how often do you go out? What is, what is your pregame routine? What is your pregame meal? Like that's what's missing. And he's like, so the fact that people was like, man, you should do your kind of like, yeah, like he's on the right path. There's a guy

that's been like, if I can go back and say, what are y'all doing after injury? I have a blueprint now of Kawhi and Derrick Rose. Really taking time and getting your knee fixed and getting healthy and worry about

the longevity versus trying to I made the All-Star last year. I can't take no breaks. let me just keep running on it, and now I'm missing. Yeah. So this weekend, you know, we got to see Zion showing that he's got some of his explosiveness back. It's like, ooh.

Mmm, he's going to have that. That's one thing he's going to do. I'm going to watch it one more time just to make sure. Mmm-hmm. So you never want to get too psyched off of one clip, right? But Zion looks like he's ready to bounce back this season, which is the first under the five-year extension he signed with the Pelicans in the summer of 2022. So looking at Zion this year, everything he's been through, navigated a lot of stuff, came out on top.

Even when we got that interview in Vegas, some people were asking, why aren't you talking about the other stuff? Well, it's like, you give me $100 million at age age 22 you know we're doing the same thing with social media I did the same thing or probably even worse so now magnify that I'm just tying that by 50. That's what I'm saying it's like the stuff they get in trouble you like that ain't really that bad. Tighten up young fella I think it's the most important thing. But what are your expectations for Zion Williamson this season? I was doing way worse with way less.

Way worse. The work will always be the work. Give me $100 million. I mean, I think this year what I want for Zion, I just be healthy. Be healthy. I mean, he's 26 tonight. You know, I think if know if he could stay healthy Play over 60 some games this year, you know, I think the Pelicans take another step

You know, I think he's their big piece that they're missing, you know healthy You know healthy Zanya is a top five player in the league So, you know, I think it's just all about his health. Just take care of his body like he said change the scenery Change the same I think it's just all about his health, just taking care of his body like you said. Change of scenery. Yeah. Change of scenery. We're gonna talk about that in a second. Yeah, I think it's a change of scenery.

He need to go somewhere else. Really? Yeah, I mean, it's not to knock on him, it's to knock on what he's gonna be looking forward to year in, year out with team success that's gonna actually catapult his visibility. He should go to Miami then. He gotta go somewhere where he can actually be valued

as the number one option, right? Not the number two, not the, oh, he hurt, we got to bring him in slow and all this. Like, nah, we're depending on you. You're our guy. We're going to hang our hat on you. So if that's the case with Zion at 26, 7, and 5, and that can go up,

like he needs a better opportunity for that to be magnified as it being on him. But, I mean, when you look at this Pelican squad, they got a nice roster. And this was a team that was in the top,

I think, number one in the West. What's nice about that roster? You don't like that squad? What's the roster? That's nice. CJ, Brandon Ingram. They play well.

I mean, they play well together. I'm just saying, when he's playing with that team, they were good. They were good. He was obviously the difference maker to life playing against Houston. Hmm like playing against you No, no, no, no, there was in the they were like they were like when he's healthy. They're kind of like the Sacramento I wanted to say sack but sack was one too, but that's I'm saying I see them like one two not a one They're one at one. They were one for a minute the Pelicans. Yes. Yeah. Yeah one

No, like the first ten They were 1 at 1 point. They were 1 for a minute. The Pelicans, right? Yes. They were 1 for a minute. Like the first 10 games of the season. Before Zion. Before Zion got hurt. The first 20 games of the season. Before Zion got hurt. I mean, starting off 1-10, I mean, when you're not supposed to for the Pelicans, that's expected. It's fool's gold. No, not really.

You're 1 for the Pelicans. Because you end up being the Pelicans at the end of the day. You end up being, you'd be who you are. Like the Cleveland Browns start off 3-0, and they're like, yeah, we're going to be exactly who, yeah, exactly who you are. Cowboys, man. Be who you are.

And like I said, there's no knock on Zion. I just think he needs to change his scenery where he gets winning spirit, and it'll catapult his game to a higher level. MVP. He's going to be in the MVP race. No way. He's game to a higher level MVP you're gonna be an MVP race no way you've been every put I am II if he's what if know what I'm saying if they're winning they it's New Orleans Pelicans winning in the West come on winning it no no winning just just having just having a winning formula one two three one two three early in a season, three. Early in the season? No way.

Early in the season? No way. You know them young boys always get out early. That's what I'm saying. The young boys get out early. Them young boys get out early. OKC. I'm putting OKC over them. No way.

Man, he going to buy that check. I'm not saying he not, but I'm just saying them compared to them. Nah. Move around, man. They just need more pieces, bro. If you're the Pelicans looking at Zion, how should Zion and the Pelicans approach this season? And we already talked about it, but what is their ceiling? I mean, as for Zion as a hooper,

you have to understand that right now it's about your body holding up. So you really have to focus on what you're doing this season, right, during the season that's drinking, that's, you know, that is diet. That's how much juice Gatorade, are you stretching after, are you, you know, getting enough rest, massaging all of that really like you, like coming into practice a hour, you know, 30 minutes before practice, no, no, no, no, no. You might have to be there two hours before, right?

To go through everything you need to practice, right? You got to take, you have to baby step. It's like when you have a kid and you putting bubble things on every sharp corner, so, you know, that's what you have to do here. You know, the game, the first bus and all that. Nah, you ain't got that luxury no more. You know the game the first bus and all that nah You ain't got that luxury no more you get there two o'clock three o'clock on a seven a game to make sure your body's prepared To make sure you're eating right you got you have to do all of that for this season just to make sure you're lasting the

whole season Right, you're gonna have to you're gonna have to treat this like a real nine-to-five. Yeah, yeah Hey, and you know once once he does that, LeBron does. You know, games at 7, LeBron's there at 130. Right? Working on his body

and that's where Zion has to be this year. Just making sure that, you know, if you're doing the body stuff, making sure you're stretched, making sure you're doing

all that, the game part is easy for you right now. Right? You can, you got, you know, three years, two more, shit, I mean, no one really knows your game yet. Three more years before someone says, you need to change your game a little bit, son. Yeah. You still got about three years.

Yeah. You know, so. I think that's fair. You agree with that? Yeah, that's fair. The adjustment, man, is always gonna to be taking care of your body and i think the biggest thing that a lot of athletes need to take away from

what we're talking about right now a lot of times your team trainers don't know what the hell they're doing right they put you in a position where plyometrics is not number one which is explosiveness bearing down on the knees and trying to understand that the PCLs, ACLs, MCLs come from not being prepared for all that impact. So a lot of the guys are out here doing all this band work and they still getting these knee injuries. Knee injuries are at all time high because they're not doing plyometric work where you actually getting the energy that you need to take care of your knees on impact when you landing, when you taking off, speed work, ladder drills. These are the little things

that guys don't take into account. And I had to perfect as an expert, as a fitness trainer, somebody who actually take that shit seriously now. And I see it as I'm watching the games. I'm seeing how these guys are having these injuries because you got little legs. You ain't really out there doing activation work

and then progression work. And when you got a guy that big 300 plus pounds it ain't about three. No, we're two 245 now two he was the three he was a threesome. I'm gonna say two seventy three point six Were you that big though like you we saw him no it was like damn Yeah, I met any Damn, he looked ripped. I'm not saying this, but big like defensive tackle. Yeah.

It's a different training. Yes, football genetics. It's different training, bro. And you see a lot of these injuries come from these trainers not being able to adjust to the different body types of every single athlete. You're putting them all through the same regiment. One or two might get better, might jump higher, but the rest of them, they got knot knees. Some of them got knot knees.

Some of them bow-legged. You know what I'm saying? It's a different approach of how you do that. The weight training is still in. They still in. They're still in. And I don't like it because I see that they're not making adjustments because the same team's having the same problem

with the same type of injuries. Portland, same injuries. Memphis, New Orleans. I can't say the Lakers because they lost VD a while ago, but you just see it. Certain guys are getting the same injuries and they not taking into account plyometrics. It ain't about being buff and all that. It's about literally taking care of your dynamics of your legs and how you, the impact, how you take care of the impact. A lot of guys don't do it. You know what a study needs to be done? This is a study that the NBA

really needs to do. How come every athlete is in the summer training and doing all this crazy stuff, but none of them getting hurt in the summer? Right. Right right right very very rarely right very rarely like we're going from sand workouts to the this pickup game to this workout right

we're doing way more in the summer and we don't get backs bro and there's no knee injuries there's not ankle none of that as soon as we get back to y'all. Bro, that's real tough. No setbacks, no nothing. As soon as we get back to y'all, everything declines, right? The same thing he said. I was good in the summer. Because what happens is the trainers are so outdated.

They're outdated. And what ends up happening, because we had it in Washington when you try to and like you try to bring Somebody like hell he does this this yes, he gets he get mad. He isn't at his job He was like you're stepping on his manhood You know yeah, you're basic your basic training your your lift weights and do that you don't know nothing Like you don't you don't know nothing you're icing stemming off all that Right these guys have facilities right they have facilities out here you you just work for the team Right what are you doing in the summer? Are you going to these facilities and doing this and updating your your know? Right you're taking vacations this and we're going and we're getting our massages and doing all this and doing all a little you know

Point activation stuff and running sands hours doing all this and coming back to you guys. And during the season, we're just sitting here. They're telling us, take it lighter. Take it light. You do it like this. Because, like, the trainers, they listen to, like, the trainers don't even know you. A lot of these trainers don't even know you on the team. So they just going by what you did last year or what the team is saying, like, up top.

They're like, oh, he needs to put on 10 extra pounds. Yep. Do I really? Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like, do I really? Like, I'm one of the fastest guards. I don't need to get that big. But the one thing we know as players is we know our bodies, right?

Yes. So it's our communication with the trainers to be like, look, man, this is what I was working on. This is what really was helping me. I was loosening my hip flexor up, getting my IT bands. I was getting some soft tissue. I need to continue this. And they just be like,

all right, well, let's start with some ice and stem, get the heat pack out. And then it's like you doing half of what you was doing kind of gets you kind of encouraged because he know a little bit of what you're doing, but you're not going through the whole regimen. And that's why I believe as a former athlete, I went through the rigors of finding out what worked for me by working with different trainers and saying dang

i don't know what he talking about but this this kind of work well this is what i took overseas with me and this helped me overseas because you don't got nba overseas so you had to really address on your own so you start to see what works for you with all the information that you use from all these other teams you're like okay this is what they just told us to do in the league but i'm over here doing this this was really working this would really get me loose but it's hard to take it back to the players because they don't really trust outside of what they're hearing from the trainers they're like oh the trainer is the trainer he must be yeah he must be right yeah like hey yo fella let me tell you something bro i I play too I play too. You want to get them knees loose?

Mm-hmm, you got to do more than just a little Single-leg squat I remember think my second year in Milwaukee. I was coming back from injury I wanted to bring in my own trainers and they like they they basically told me I couldn't Like they were like basically like, you like, no, we have our own. You need to use ours. But I'm like, well, the guy I'm using was the reason why I was killing early. I had my own trainers from Under Armour.

I had my own. I had another trainer from D.C., a shot coach. I was bringing my own things because I'm like, I need to be in this rhythm during the season. I don't want to be in, this rhythm ain't working that I'm on. It's not the same feel. So it's crazy that you say that cuz we don't get hurt in the summer Don't like I'll be training feeling good feeling good Tomorrow same time like we're practicing an hour and a half, right if that during the season We're practicing from them six in the morning, like two.

Easy. And don't let it, like, I'm playing, we playing in a pick-up game here, and we finishing, oh, UCLA popping. We driving all the way to UCLA, we gonna pop there. Play once an hour. We gonna play once for an hour. We're putting our body through everything in the summer,

but we have a system. Yes. And as a team, you have a billion dollar you have a billion dollar industry and you're not out here seeking the best you're not seeking the best like if i have a billion dollar industry i want the best at everything yes massage therapist like you have 13. Why you got one massage therapist? Oh, we can never get to them. You gotta wait. You're waiting for

hours just to get your little massage on. I'm going home, bro. We got one massage therapist. There's massage companies, right? You can sponsor us. Like a sponsor. That means they have a company that got like 30-something massage people.

I got 13. Can I get 13? Thank you Be 18 Can I get can I get you boom boom boom? We gonna set up a deal where we win They aim that you're your company comes here and massage us, right? You got a chiropractor You have a company come on man one and, and now we sitting here with time, and then, you know, the time going by, we need extra help, and then now, I'm like, oh, man, you messing up my... Now I messed up. Come on, man, get your ass off the table.

Now he messed up, like, that's what ends up happening. And even the trainer table. Like the trainer table. Two, two, two. Young fella. Young fella. Yo, young fella, get off. Young fella, you know it's seniority, bro. Years, years. That's what ends up happening. Young fella, come on, man. Get out of here, man. You feel bad for him, but like you ain't playing But he trying to get through his routine to be prepared for the game now

I got to kick him off the table like it's just you got one jacuzzi Billionaire that's a cozy Real bad our feet in it real fast like this No homo so nobody really want to get in the water. Nobody want to get in the water at all. Don't touch my feet, bro. Don't be touching me, man. We got to be sitting there putting little feet in.

Like, come on, man. When y'all building these facilities, man, build it like you have multiple players on your team. Man. Well, I ain't going to front. My last year in Milwaukee, it was off the chain. It got way better than it did when I was there in the beginning in Milwaukee. It was off the chain It got got way better than it did like when I was when I was there in the beginning to now I was day and night. Yeah, now they got they got it now like it's off the chain now We usually like when I went back to Washington now they have chefs. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes, right

He got they got couple chefs. So, you know, I mean nobody waiting and then every player has their own You know coach. Yeah to work them out. That's how it's supposed to bend up Well, you have your own personal coach that you know is pushing you and like you responsible for me Which means you should get a raise if I'm playing well again better You should get fined if I'm doing that Right, you know I mean that's that you got me doing that should be how it is because if I'm responsible for you Oh, I'm at your door. Not not wake up. Let's go real stay. No, not not what's up? Let's go. It's time All right 5 p.m. Let's go. It's time. This is who you got that you got him tomorrow

And you know who would be good for that some interns some young hungry interns I mean don't be the ones who be beems anyway at the end the ball boys and them dudes becoming jams I was just hired some get some former player got to some former players shooting machines out there man come on what y'all spending your money on and that hot tub and cold tub used to be so I got 12 baskets I need 12 shooting machines hey what are we talking about yeah Yeah, no brainer Cuz I can tell you when we had one if I'm on it you ain't getting on it You better get it human you got three

Human out there goddamn because I'm on this but that's what I'm saying You should have like this should be like you should have so there's no player waiting. Yep So everybody cuz if I'm on there if I'm if I supposed to be taking a thousand shots Like, there should be, like, you should have, so there's no player waiting. Yep. So everybody, because if I'm on there, if I'm supposed to be taking 1,000 shots and there's only one shooting machine, how are you supposed to get better? How are you supposed to get better? Well, you got to wait now two and a half hours before I'm finished. Like, now you're like, oh, man, I'll come back later. No, because later I'm back.

They're going to Chris Brinkley now. I'm back later. They're going to Chris Brinkley now. Mid-season. Mid-season, they're going to New York to go get shots up for the gram. Now, because my team ain't giving me enough what I need over here. How they do it in the Olympics, man, you got the Olympics, man. Y'all, it's a, you have a billion, this year, this is billions, man.

When you talk about Microsoft and all this of they have the smartest people making decisions They have the smartest text protecting their firewall the smartest and if they think there's somebody out there They're gonna say million dollars hack my program right if you hack this program you got a job, right? Right same thing here I want to I want to interview everybody. I want to see who's the best at who's the best trainers out there Brickley Hey and during the season I'm hiring you because there. Brickley, hey, during the season, I'm hiring you, because obviously you ain't got the NBA players. During the season, I want your group, you know, working out my guys, teaching my staff.

Like, we gonna do something here. We not just gonna sit here and I'm just trusting this dude that I know he been here all summer doing nothing. The crazy thing is, Chris Brickley started with the Knicks. Like, he was Melo's trainer coming in. Yeah. The year I was there. The next thing you know, he got his own, and he just took off. That's what ends up happening.

Because it's like he's handcuffed with the Knicks, but here I can do my own thing. That's why Chris Brickley took off. I was like, oh, yeah, you got it. And you got the perfect job. What's the reason why the owners are not jumping at this opportunity? Like you're saying it's like what's the hesitation? It's not the owners. The owners don't know nothing. So was it GMs making the decisions, what's the hesitation? It's not the owners.

The owners don't know nothing. So was it GMs making the decision? GMs, it's the trainers, right? Is it the coaching? No, no. If you're a trainer,

right, and I'm coming in like, hey man, I got my trainer, man, you know, we want to put him on a staff. You're going to be like,

whose spot he taking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah. We'll talk about it later. We'll try to figure it out. Obviously, you ain't going to hire him. Right? It, yeah, yeah. Nah. We'll talk about it later. We'll try to figure it out. Obviously, you ain't going to hire him. Right? It's just, you know, the owner don't know.

I mean, now you got to sit here and talk with the general manager and get them to understand how important this stuff is. It's just, it's not a well-ordered machine. We were talking about a trainer. So, Karon Butler's trainer, Keith Vini, he used to always train Ben Gordon and Keron. He used to talk about how Randy, I think it was Randy Whitman's son, when he went to Washington,

they hired his son as a player development guy and wouldn't bring him in. But he was already working with all the Wizards guys, getting them right for the summer. And he's expecting that job to go to him because he was already working with them. He was like, oh, they chose Coach's son over me because it was the Coach's call. Usually it is.

It's the Coach's call. Then again, it's like, are you trying to win if you know that these guys ain't getting the player development they need? How do we change that? We need to find a solution for it because it is one of those things that's hurting the game, I think, because I can see it. I can see like, oh, I know who you work out with. That's crazy.

I know who you work out with. I know who you work out with. You get to see a guy and you know who he work out with? I know who he work out with. But that's the thing. My thing is like, if this is your your business is now this is billion dollar businesses. Right. As owners, you have to really like this ain't just bragging. This ain't back in the 60s, 70s, 80s where you brag. I want to lay down on this.

Like this is actually a moneymaker now for you. So this is a moneymaker now for you. You need to really invest like like you should you should treat all your players how LeBron treats himself. Mmm And when we're talking about LeBron in his longevity That's a little bra That's no organization, right? That's him saying they're lacking here here here here I'm gonna just incorporate it in myself and we're gonna do it myself. I'm not paying attention to you That should be an embarrassment to your team.

But where do you think LeBron's picking it up from? Is he grabbing pieces from every place? Yeah, you're working out in his – listen, when we work out in the summer, if he's in L.A. and he's in Vegas, right, like, yo, what's the runs out over there? Oh, no, we balling. And when I go to that facility, watching the facility and watching how they do, like, oh, I like it here. And let me go down to LA, see what they got in LA. Go down to LA and see what they got, right? One might have the runs, one might have the medical treatment. So now you got to pick and choose what's more important for you. I'm going to spend three

weeks there, then I'm going to go here for three weeks. Once you feel like, your body starts changing, you can see the improvement in your game, you start like, yo, hey man, this is going to be my guy in the summer. That's how these guys get on because they're working with you personally. They're looking at your game.

They're understanding you. You're like, this is who I'm with every summer. You don't have that person during the season. I came into training camp every summer 208. 208, 206. Right?

But I'm playing at 218. So I'm gaining weight during the season. That's crazy. That's crazy. Damn. 206 to 208 during it because Gatorades now. We travel in the plane. You're running more. You're running more in the office.

Yeah. We're going to the clubs. You know what I mean? It becomes, we're going from looking good to flabby. If you see players march, look at the muscles. Flabby. They're eating more too. They're eating more. Eating way more. Eating more sitting and resting muscles. Yeah. Flabby. And they eating more, too. They eating more.

Eating way more. Eating more sitting and resting more. Yep. That's crazy. Like those plane fights. Tons of food on the plane, right? But you just chilling. Back in the day. Back in the day it was off the chain. Three, four hours. I first got in the league back in the day it was off the chain. I know what they like. They had In-N-Out when we did our L.A. trip. Yeah, for sure. In-N-Out.

In-N-Out. On the plane. I'm like, shit. At least three or four to get roscoe three or four in and out burgers when it's free and it's this is that morton's and all that yeah everything okay liquor beer a lot of beer a lot of liquor a lot of beer yeah i mean you know midwest milwaukee and you know that's when scouts and then they used to come back with the oath uh with kurt thomas and them used to gamble that's like those are the good days like the bruise on the table and just gambling like have beer i mean the trainers everybody used to gamble. Those are the good days. We'd sit around the table and just gamble and have beer. I mean, the trainers, everybody used to be chilling.

Media. That's when everybody was cool. It was just like, now the playing's a different. And you're saying how you can get out of shape real fast, especially if you're not playing. If you're not out there burning them calories, and then they make you get on that treadmill after the game. You got to do your little treadmill.

That ain't enough. It ain't like running up and down 40. Like, you burning at least 1,000 calories out there. Like, you ain't moving nothing. Then you get on that plane to eat. What's so funny is I was privileged. I was privileged to be put on my own. And here's why.

We got my first year. I wasn't playing at the beginning. We have Dave Cowens. Dave Cowens gets fired. And then Brian Winters took over. And probably like five to ten games into it, you know, practice. Nobody wants to come to practice. So he said, all right, no more practice.

Just come to practice. So he said, all right, no more practice. Just come to games. Right? So imagine you ain't got no practice no more and you go to games. So my first couple days, every weekend, I'm shooting up to L.A. Shooting to L.A. just to go to City Walk. I mean, go to Sunset. Show off the Escalade. Show off the Escalade.

You know what I mean? And then there was one day where I was falling asleep and then one of those scares, and I'm like, dog, what am I doing? Whoa, like I'm an NBA player sitting here driving back and forth because I don't have practice and then realize that if this is what the NBA is and I'm on my own, I need to learn how to really work out and get my shit together. Because I got to imagine no one's working out.

If no one's working out, I'm working out. And that's how I took it just to understand no more problems. We're not babysitting you no more. Be men. That's tough.

That's an epiphany. I was, bro. For real. On the way out, I'm like, wait a minute, what am I doing? Think about how dumb. I get a car wash, drive all the way to Sunset due to... What's I doing I think but think about how dumb I'm I get a car

wash drive all the way to sunset due to the uh what's the name that's eight hours that's an eight hour drive driving four hours there why four hours there to do what go up and down for about an hour hour and a half to drive all the way back from not holla at no girl no eight hours just to go just to show off all my screens on my TV come a boy My boys and my boys in the back and they did. Yeah dumb. Yeah I was back that was eight hours Because you know what? growing up our

Whole thing was man. We we needed just a bomb car. Sure. Hit the bullet, just hit the sunset. And go to Fox Hills. Yep, that was it. Just to go, because, you know, we used to go in the bucket and we'd just be hiding. We'd just be hiding in the back like this. Like, oh, what am I doing?

I ain't don't never see me in the back. When I got the Escalade, I was like, yo, bro, we need to put it on the sunset. Like, I got y'all. I got y'all. We out there. We out there When when when people say yeah, man y'all do don't know no no no I was doing done I was dumb go that dry will be real alone that he talking about from oh now every week. You just that's like almost eight hours Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. But that's our drive, but that was a tremendous activity in those days

No work work nobody tremendous activity in those days. I know. They'd cruise up, they'd cruise back. Getting no work. Meet me at the Hardee's over here. Meet me at the Wendy's. We actually secure any work. Just play music loudly and be hysterical. I feel like every hood had that one script that you pulled up on.

Oh for sure. Yeah I never went to C yeah, but I'm someone who saw what you say the boys in the hood was very reflective of Who was going good? But let's get into mostly fans our last segment of the day And as a reminder if you drop a good question in the chat with your underdog username We will give you a $50 bonus in your underdog account So you get these pickups crafting best, all that other stuff they got going on. But first question is from... Hold on.

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with Wimby putting 15 pounds, putting on 15 pounds over the summer, do you think he might be putting on too much weight too fast? I mean, if he put on 15 pounds, I mean, then his body was ready for it because no matter how much you lift, if your body ain't ready to gain that weight, it don't happen. I mean, 15, I mean, don't happen. I mean 15 I Mean what is it? I mean? Like seven three seven four that's like what is that you won't notice it

Double saying on a stick figure it just double shaded on him What's the big pencil two? Yeah, pencil two. Pencil two. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think they should treat it like, you know, remember when KD came in and they were saying he couldn't bitch 185 and all that.

Like, I think they should let him just play his first year. He's already been playing pro. Yeah, I mean. It's already been, it's not like. It's a difference between him and KD though KD playing guard position He's not gonna get bullied as much but down there. They need him to give me 15 more. Yeah, but he plays Our Center, but yeah, but he plays like but you don't say he has the Tennessee him versus Steven Adams down They're trying to get rebounds He gonna get that little man. Yeah right here. No way right away He box it all that out. He I'm a mate. I'm a mate my mate watch out mate

It's got this mate All that all that tough tough basketball stuff, yes, oh, that's it. That's overrated It's not it's not it's not it's not no no no no no no hey hey listen playback TV I'm doing 55 tonight 2 p.m. 2 p.m. right after this and 30 minutes y'all need to go over there for real because when they talk about defense where that Where that where that when we a women I think is the team's where that what they doing the Wimby in 95, bro Nothing, they gonna destroy that nothing. They're gonna destroy that man first Oh, those are the first of all, you know, first of all Patrick. They got a play on the outside Charles Smith in them man

I First of all, Patrick Hewitt, they got to play on the outside. Charles Smith and them? Man, I got the game. Davis? The Davis boys? I got the game. Come on, man. They not playing, man. I got the game. Get your little ass out.

Nah, that game. Alonzo Moore and them? They wouldn't do that to Mike. Alonzo and them? They wouldn't do that to Mike. I'm coming on Wimby. I'm talking about you 7-3. You like a Manute Bowl out here.

They didn't do it to Manute Bowl. They didn't do it to Manute Bowl. Yes, they did. Why you think Manute was out there shooting threes like They didn't do it to Manute Bowl. Sean Bradley didn't do it to Manute Bowl. Why you think Manute was out there shooting threes like Bo Bo? Because he can shoot it. No, because you ain't coming downhill. Nah, hey, man, listen. It smell like the gas chamber downhill.

It's overrated. Pond or city? Overrated. Pond or city? Wait, the 90s? Oh, so are we on the 90s now? He on the 90s. He can't wait.

He said the 90s is overrated. You got a no, okay Are you discredited Michael? No, no, I watched a little bit of the games What a defense that y'all talking about defense this is defensive juggernauts and stuff like I won't wear that They couldn't stop nobody. There was no crossovers like that. They couldn't move left or right for nothing. They fouled hard, but they didn't stop nobody from driving. They couldn't shoot for nothing.

So Jeffrey, Michael Jeffrey, will we be taking some points away? I got the game for you. Are we going to take some points away? No. You're saving for 30. Michael Jeffrey Jordan. I'm going to just some points away? No, we're about to see. No, you're saving for 30. Michael Jeffrey Jordan. What I'm saying is, I'm going to just throw it out there.

Maybe the defense looked good because there was no offensive players on the floor. I'm just saying. Did y'all ever think about that? Back then, they only had one and a half scores. Everybody else was defensive players, so obviously they couldn't shoot. We're going to talk about that because I'm doing the Knicks game. The lineup, just the

lineup. I looked at the lineup and said Patrick, the go-to guy. Yep, okay. Oakley, non-shooter. Non-shooter. Bonner, non-shooter. Don't even know who that is. Bonner. Then you had Starks, half a shooter? Mm-hmm? Right, and then you had Harper Harper. Uh, yep

He wasn't there. It wasn't a shooter. Are you scoring? Going to go through Pat I would look like a defensive player if I get the guards you you can't shoot the ball Who do boys like on the bulls though the boys line up then is Patrick Ewing you're going Luke longley who takes two shots the game What is your metric? What is your defensive metrics playing against them get that shit out of here? You're not doing nothing Still what are you doing? What is the defensive metrics? Y'all put you of course you you ain't shooting the ball I'm Pat Ewing get that shit out of here trying to feel swim Where I'm gonna figure I like that what I'm saying is I'm trying to figure out right this

It looks like the defense can't score now I mean they can score easy because there's four offensive players to one defense back there. It was four defensive players to one offense Nobody even gonna say that they changed the three-point line. They went from 24 feet to 22 because they couldn't shoot the ball. They couldn't. No, y'all don't want to say that. Y'all couldn't shoot the ball for nothing,

so they had to push it in. Are we going to the 99 or are we just saying what? What 90? From 80, the 94 to 95 season that season you can see the you can see the adjustment on the floor they didn't even change the floor they just changed the line so you can see the original line that it used to be and they

made a new line y'all shoot here now y'all Come here and shoot here because y'all can't do nothing back there. Jordan's shooting percentage went up 10% because of that new line. That's crazy. 30% to 40%. Just because of the new line. This is when I knew they needed scoring. Gary Payton,

first three years, or first four years in the league, he was shooting 20%. He shot 125 threes in four years. They moved the line two feet. He shot 915 threes in the next three years. Whoa. They needed scoring.

They couldn't score. Over 35% shooting. And he shot 30%. But he couldn't shoot the ball So they can't I'm just saying like if it's all a lot of defenders did I mean but do we go back to the time machine and we start? Correct to some of these some of these conversations about offensive juggernauts But all of that like if Mike is getting these buckets because there ain't no defense out there. This dude took 523 point attempts in 99-2000. The year before was 281, 397, 382,

99, 232. But in 93-94, he took 54. So from 93-94, he went from 54 to 94-95, 232. They were just holding the ball. They couldn't like... That's big time. That's wild, bro. Hey, and that's an observation that only Gil could go get that observation. Yeah, I didn't know that. You got a nitpick about that shit. They think I be picking on them, even with the defense.

They used to use two hands when you're driving. They had to take it off to put one. Because you couldn't score. They wouldn't score. We need more scoring. But there was no score. They wouldn't score. We need more scoring. But it was no scorers. He just named, like, if you think about it

in the 90s, who would... It was like Dominique, Jordan, Clyde, Malone. Small forwards. Out of the top 10 small forwards from the 90s,

I think three or four were six-man. They got a six-man award. Who are those names? Like Larry Johnson? Nah, 90s name. Detlef Schrempf. Yeah, Glenn Rice.

Chris Mullin. Chris Mullin. No. Chris Mullin was a shooting guard? Yeah, 90s. 25 pieces. Yeah, Pip. Mitch Richmond.

Nah, he was a shooting guard. Talking about small forwards? Yeah, small forwards. Small forwards. Yeah, Tony Kukoc.. Yeah, Tony Kool coach. Liam Robertson. Tony Kool coach. You know, big dog.

Like, three of them came off the bench. Damn. He was six men. He won six men awards. Cliff Robertson. I mean. Cliff Robertson. Cliff was ahead of his time.

I mean, how good was the small forwards then? Dominique was number one. Small forward then. Pippen. Yeah. Pippen, then, Pippen then Dom. I'm glad so I can go back and watch the games because I didn't become a real fan until Penny Hardaway came in because it was just so different. And then that's when I started watching.

The 55 game and going back, I get to really see, like, especially how they talk now, I get to really see what it was now to see how they really played the game. Like, I'm going to take out the threes because I know y'all wasn't on that, right? Y'all wasn't on the threes, but I'm looking at defensive stance, right? How active y'all are in defense? What made you guys great defensive players? What was the post-ups? How did you score? Like, I want to see it all all and if a guy takes off and he takes off every time on you you're not a good defensive player 100 all right if you're a defensive player and someone yanks you every single time down the court how are you awarded

defense yeah because he can't shoot now. Ah, ah. Yeah. Ah. You talking about B.J. Armstrong? You talking about Steph King? What? What are you talking about? Steve Kerr? What are we talking about? Steve Kerr ain't getting beat up. He ain't going in there and getting beat up. How you gonna beat up Steph Kerr if you ain't beating up? Like, what are we talking about? It just...

That's fair. How much did you average in the 90s? In the 90s? Yeah. 100. Listen, listen. I'm going to just be honest. From what I'm seeing... From what I'm seeing...

Yeah, like that Knicks team. Like, how much... Yeah. From what I'm seeing... If what I'm seeing... I'm leading the league in scoring. I'm leading the league in scoring. I'm leading the league in scoring. No threes, Gil.

I don't need no threes. All right. Just put that in there. No threes. Here's why. There's only one and a half scores on every team. So when you're talking about the Bulls, all the balls just went to Michael Jordan.

Yep. Right? Everything went to Michael Jordan. So he's taking all the shots. So if you're telling me that I'm taking all the shots and I'm playing against these guards With my skill set in these guards that weren't athletic these guys are Steve Kerr Let's think about the guard Randy Brown

And with 28 inch vertical. What am I dealing with here? What am I dealing with 28 inch vertical? What am I dealing with here? What am I dealing with? 28-inch vertical? What am I? Who are we talking about? Harper, like, what are we talking? I'm coming downhill with my speed. They ain't never seen nothing like it. Now you got to guard your man. I'm at the, I'm making a layup. What are you going to do? Foul me? Cool. I'm shooting two free throws. Right? That, if that's your, if your only go-to defense is to say

we're going to hit you hard, then I'm not worrying about you. I'll take the two free throws. Right? I'm just, I'm sitting at the free throw line the whole time where I'm making a layup because these guys weren't at they weren't Athletic like that like these guys are crazy There's no Westbrooks then yeah He's got they coming down the court backing the ball up on up on a fast on a fast break late My Jackson you tell my Marge all of them

All of them are backing it up like this. I am another On a fast break late Jackson you tell my mark Jack Like this damn another I'm sitting here like I got more bill y'all tell me no I'm saying y'all I can't go past BJ Armstrong That's one huh? They say when he get in this stance we get in this thing I'm just saying, bro. Yeah, all right. I'm BJ getting it. He locked down, bro. Move your feet. Gil, we got to wrap this up so you can get to your other shit, but playback.tv slash nochillgil. Gil be breaking down George's double nickel game in the garden.

We have one last question for you guys. I think you'll appreciate it. This comes from Underdog Fantasy User Less Work Chief. He said, did you play better when you had plenty of work on the road or less work to attention?

Oh, shit. That had to be him. Are you going to go to me? Oh, man, you play way better.

When you have more work on the road? Yes. But doesn't that get confusing? Take your request, what's next? No,

no, you know exactly where to put it. All of them. You know where to put it. 300 left. All of them. You know where to put it. You over here in this row, you in this row. And you get the front row this time. This time.

So is it at the game or is it on the road? I just think, did you play better when you had plenty of work on the road or less work to attend to? That's funny because I don't, I didn't. I mean, I think. You got to do the metrics. I mean, I had the work scheduled out, though. Like, I knew.

Like, all right, Mammy, she's going to make this. Yeah. Like, New York, she's going to make this trip. And I know how I'm going to play based on where I'm going, who my work is. Okay. So this work definitely invigorates me. We talk about food deserts. What?

We talk about food deserts. Were there any work deserts where the city was like, oh, it's a work desert. Now we're going to be just having work. What I'm saying is like... Or could you make work out of it? Keep that, keep that, keep that, keep that be what I'm saying Work at the game ever no because the way we get in the night before so they already there and then in the morning In the morning after I go to shoot around by the time I get back they better be there

No, that ain't good work though. They better they better be there because they didn't go where you gotta have good work state No, I don't what I'm saying is when I come back. I want to take my nap and do all this I can't have you sitting there talking and messing up my routine You gonna go to the game think about it you don't go to the game and Then we leave out of town that means I got a book your room an extra night so you can stay tonight Oh no, and then fly just depends on how good she is. That's what I said. It depends on how good the work is.

It depends on how good it is. No. It depends on how good it was on that road. Hey, I'm telling you. Gil, do you risk your work giving thieves? Getting thieves like that? You bring them to the game the next day after. Now you guys have left.

They're still in that particular city. Man, I don't care about that. That's fine. Just making sure. She's from the morning. The flight's in the morning for you. First of all, she's from the city. We're not...

Locals. I'm flying in. No? I'm flying in. If I got to fly in the work to out-of-state city, if I'm on the road and I got to fly to work in, that's different. I need my work in that city.

What if it's like Fresno work and you can get her to L.A. or you can get the Fresno work to L.A.? If I come to L.A., I'm not going to drive. She got to drive. She going to get there herself. Fresno work to LA. Yeah, I'm going to say yeah. If I come to LA, I'm not going to drive. She's going to get there herself. Fresno, water and oil.

Nah, Fresno, look, I mean, she's going to be like an Ohio 10. She can go to Ohio. But she's like a 5 in LA. An Ohio 10? An Ohio 10, so she can go to Ohio. Like Utah for sure. Portland for sure.

For sure. Portland's a good night out. Philly, I might bring her to Philly. I don't go nowhere in Philly or Chicago. Miami, New York, Atlanta. We good. We good. We good.

And we're going to play great. I have my best games at the Garden, I'm not going to lie. Mine was out. As soon as shooting round came back, if they in there, if they in the... No. Nah, you got to go to the airport. Damn. No, you're not getting no tickets to the game. Whatever.

You're not giving no tickets to the game? No, it ain't about the tickets. It's about when I get back, I have a routine and you're not part of it. I mean, the tickets to the game is like, then you got to see her after. It's like, I don't want everybody to see me with you. You don't have to see her after because she don't get the don't have to see her after she don't get the family pass No, we come out there to see you out general at the seats. Yeah, we come, you know We come out and we sign our grab

What's up, baby? You good you're about to do it. Yeah. Yeah, we out damn We out we don't come back to the back care too much. Yeah, we're you get to match We find the work first class on special occasions was the economy We out. We out. We don't come back to the back. See, I care too much. I care too much. Were you flying to work first class on special occasions? Was it economy? Hey. First class. Main cabin window?

He was doing first class? I got to make sure they get me. Ooh. But like first- Economy means I don't know what's going to happen back there. First class in the work? He was first class in the work. Hell yeah.

Nah. What? Back in the- You're not going to let the work stay? If you're not going to let the work stay, you going first class it and not let it stay? Listen, I'm first class them because I'm not letting them stay. Listen, I'm franchising. I was franchising.

I'm doing it like my reputation matters. But like the first class here in the Southwest, you know, like the early boarding group, $45. No, back then in Milwaukee, we had AirTran. So we was getting everybody AirTran. We had everybody, you know, $200 to get everybody on AirTran. I'm not going to lie. AirTran to Milwaukee. This is fresh social media.

This is like 2008, 2009. This is what we call from my space to my place. It was straight from there, straight to here, and then back to wherever you go. Hey, my space to my place, baby. Hey, and listen, if you didn't shape up when you got there, you was right back on the flight out of here. I'm out of here. You didn't even get in here two hours. No, I'm first.

I just booked a whole new flight for you. I just booked a whole new flight for you to go back. Like, I try to say, like, it was mostly, like, when we had, like, games and we're going to be to, like, two and a half days or three days. Yeah, yeah, no. Then, yeah, but, like... First class will work.

Not for special. No 767, though, right? On your janky, on your janky. Bro, I'm going to be honest, bro. In the back of the day. We was able to bring girls on the plane Oh, yeah, we was able to bring so if you run your wife or your girlfriend at the time I mean, you know, but no, I don't lie the work back then was a lot more Gracious than they are now like they would appreciate the fact that they was even just coming around Like they was actually like I around. Nowadays, they're a little bit more entitled now. They're a little bit more entitled now.

Like, they was actually like, I'm going out to go see who. Oh, my God, they were so grateful. What? They were so grateful. They knew how to act, too. They knew how to act. They were like, yo, when's the last time you ate? Listen, the last time you ate.

The last time you ate. I had someone DM me from the past, right, and say, hey, you still got your list? And I'm like, what do you mean your list? Yeah, you know, you told me the reason you stopped talking to me because I didn't make your top ten. I said I had to do more to get into your top ten. Yeah, rankings. I was like, damn, I did.

I did. He said I called her. I was like, hey, man, you just fell out of the top ten. Yo. AP or coaches poll. And hung up. You didn't make the top ten. Not even the or Coach's poll. And hung up. You didn't make the top 10. Not even the Coach's poll.

Damn. Honorable mention. I guess I was rude. I was like, damn, it ain't my bad, but I ain't got no top 10 now. Right, the work gotta work a little harder.

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