Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS After Gil DISRESPECTS Swaggy's Ring

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down The NBA Cup Quarter-Finals as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Elite 8 of the NBA's In Season Tournament where Shai Gilgeous-Alexander turned in a dominant pe...rformance to carry the OKC Thunder into the 2nd Round and Giannis Antetokounmpo & Damian Lillard escaped an upset to the Orlando Magic, adding another NBA Cup victory to Darvin Ham's resume. They debate if any team should want smoke with the Thunder after they proved themselves in a playoff atmosphere and continue their hostile discourse on if they Bucks need to bolster their team with more firepower than Mr. B's energy. Next, they react to AJ Dybantsa's shocking commitment to BYU over blue bloods like Duke, UNC & Alabama and break down how NIL is cooking college basketball and development in young hoopers. Finally, Nick Young remembers Kobe Bryant's infamous rant during practice where he called out the entire Los Angeles Lakers roster and the Gil's Arena Crew tries to figure out why superstar athletes, most recently Joe Burrow, continue to be robbed in broad daylight. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Get Your Ugly Sweaters HERE!! - https://gilsarenamerch.com/collections/holiday-sweaters Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com & use Promo code GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:57 Swaggy P Remembers Kobe's Practice Rant 0:11:42 Top NBA Prospect Selects BYU 0:22:05 Is College Basketball Cooked? 0:35:06 Do Young Hoopers Love The Game? 0:46:38 Bucks Escape NBA Cup Scare From The Magic 0:56:13 Khris Middleton's Return To The Court 1:07:07 The Magic Are Impressing Without Paolo & Franz 1:23:10 SGA Cooks Luka & The Mavs 1:28:27 Gil DISRESPECTS Nick's Championship Pedigree 1:37:04 Ime Udoka CALLS OUT Alperen Sengun 1:56:32 Poll Results Restart The Gil vs Nick Debate 2:03:13 MostlyFans 2:29:05 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Whoa, whoa! He ain't played him. You right. You right. Nick and Gil, back at it again. No, no, no, no, no, no. What about Maestro? What about Maestro? He ain't played him. Yes, I have. I beat him. Okay, so he's above Maestro. 35-0. Oh, he's above Maestro.
Starting point is 00:01:19 So it's D-Rod, then me, then... Kent? I don't know. I mopped him, so I don't know where he is. If it's D-Rush, you, then me, then... Kents? I don't know. I mopped him, so I don't know where he is. Kents don't play like that, because he always lose it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No Chill Gaming will be launching soon, so we'll get this all the time. I mean, you got fans out here.
Starting point is 00:01:36 You got someone. You got Brendan Jennings' fan... Okay....who hits me every day talking about how great Brendan is and all this, but he don't know you getting your head popped in. He don't know. Like, I be trying to tell you. It ain't no convincing him, I guess, at this point. Like, I'm starting to think it's you.
Starting point is 00:01:55 No, because. I'm starting to think it's you. He on his KD. He on his KD. He on his KD. There's no way. He on his KD. No, he's like...
Starting point is 00:02:05 He just getting you ready for when we go. Like, he know what type of person I am. Like, when it's time to go live. Like, yeah, when the camera's on, he know. He know what I'm going to do. So that's why he just keep talking. I don't think he knows you still run the same play from two months ago.
Starting point is 00:02:21 He don't know that. That deep shit. Yeah. Run, run, run. Throw it long. Man, that shit ain't know that. That deep shit. Yeah. Run, run, run. Throw it long. Man, that shit ain't working out. Get lucky sometimes. Catch it.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That's how he scored. Off of luck. He scored on you? Yeah. A deep pass. Oh, no. He called it over two people in his own. I don't let his team celebrate at all.
Starting point is 00:02:38 They don't get to celebrate. First one was zero. He didn't score. He don't get to do no type of dances with the team. He don't get to spike the ball. He don't. No. No. No sub with the team. He'll get to spike the ball. He'll know. Oh, no, sir Yes, we do get pics Brandon. If you want to crash our early and I say I talked to underdog you have Full support of the company. He quit this morning. Yeah
Starting point is 00:02:56 third-quarter We like brothers they went cheating when she normally go together and we put We put rules in. You wasn't a part of the rules because you really don't quit like that. You don't. You don't. He's Mr. Quit, right?
Starting point is 00:03:12 Oh, no. He don't even know what halftime looks like sometimes. He don't see the popcorn. I hate when I'm at the end zone and I throw interceptions. That shit, I don't like that. That shit, we... Who told you to throw the ball?
Starting point is 00:03:25 You're always talking. That's why... Do the same play. Do this play. Yeah, go and do this play again. Try it again. But this is Gil Guerrero. You don't get none of that.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Gil, I'm a peaceful man. I was at home reading my Bible while you guys were doing all of these shenanigans. You was yelling at five-year-olds. Reading my Bible. Doing home runs. You're supposed to beat Beirut. Like, wait a minute. Hey, we in basketball season now.
Starting point is 00:03:46 We in basketball season now. And they are about to learn what 17s mean. Because they not delivered. On the field. He gonna make the rush 17. Hey. To the first base and back.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Jovar Ball. Jovar Ball. Like I said, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. No basketball. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Gilbert Redis, here with us.
Starting point is 00:04:07 What up? Rocking the LT. Respect, respect. We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young. 1A, 1A. Is back here with us. Why you got the shattered glass? Because I'm stoned.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Because you have stone cold. Oh, okay. That's fine. I came through the break. Stone cold. I thought it was a jumper joke. That's me. I got the knee pads now. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Oh. Oh. I'm on my knees. Oh. We got. No, no, no. I don't know if you know the running joke of Steve Austin. What happened to him?
Starting point is 00:04:40 One of your old veterans lost his girlfriend in high school. To Steve Austin? To a dude who wanted to be Steve Austin. Not Steve Austin himself. Just a dude trying to be Steve Austin. Store brand Steve. Right? So the Steve Austin thing, he going to think you mocking him is all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Oh. Every show. You don't want to see him. Every show. You don't want to wear like... I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, he lost his girlfriend to a dude trying to be Steve Austin. A black dude trying to be Steve Austin. That's even weirder.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Damn. Yeah, anywho. Damn, neat pants. A black dude. And representing tough crowd and Gilson Arena Season 3 merch, Mr. B, Brandon Janney's back here with us. Fresh off a trip with the Art Basel. He was out there getting it in, turning up in Miami.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Didn't invite us. All good. You was in Miami? Yeah. No invite. What was out there? Art Basel. Who? Miami Art Basel.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That's when everybody comes, sells art, clothes, fashion. Yeah, it's a lot. You bought the banana. There's work out there, too. No, is that the one where you're hanging out with Jimmy Butler? Yeah, Jimmy. it's a lot, you know. You bought the banana. There's work out there, too. No, is that the one where you hanging out with Jimmy Butler? Yeah, Jimmy. Where's he going? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You know something, Brandon, where the dude sold the banana? Yeah, yeah. That's the... It's art, though. We not buying no bananas, bro. We not buying no bananas. We good. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 00:06:03 I sold your banana a long time. What? I get to take it back home with me, though. You know what I mean? Like, what I don't get about the art stuff is, like, who's that dumb? To buy a banana? I put a banana in duct tape. And then, huh! Who's like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, I want that. How much you need, six million? Like, wait, wait, dude, you can just do that at the house. It's like, the banana represents what you been through. It's riding this shit. Right. It's cool. It's like, it's rough, but I'm still here making it,
Starting point is 00:06:42 holding up by this tape. Then someone sells somebody an invisible... Here, I can sell you this air. Hey, you sell a bag of air. It was something. It was something crazy. No, you're old, man. Y'all artsy dudes. Y'all got to relax, man. Get back to reality. Get back to reality.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We're here robbing y'all. And back to reality for us, for all the fans out there. We still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support your favorite basketball podcast, despite what some out there may be saying about us. Rank 10?
Starting point is 00:07:15 Rank 10 what? I'm not even going to tell you, Gil. Yeah, I ain't saying that. Somebody sent me that. We didn't get the proper respect that we deserve in some fan polling. Oh, that was What was it? It was I don't know. What was it basketball player basketball athletes a player basketball player podcast I believe basketball player podcast. Mm-hmm former we are we actually
Starting point is 00:07:40 We're podcast but we're a TV. We're more of a show. We're breaking out of that podcast mode, expanding, diversifying. Yeah, podcast is basically interviewing and stuff like that. But we still got two. That's good for, you know, those people. Good for them. Salute to y'all.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Still got two viewing options for you, our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. SGA delivered a dominant performance on the Mavs to lead the Thunder to the NBA Cup Final Four. Does the real MVP reside in OKC?
Starting point is 00:08:11 The Bucks barely beat a Magic squad, missing their two best players, but they did make that Final Four, the only team from last season to be back in the NBA Cup Final Four. Does Milwaukee need to make a move to boost their energy? And NIA on the transfer portal have significantly altered the college basketball landscape. But is college basketball cooked? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And as for tonight, GIL, you got some picks in your partner pack on the Underdog app.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Let's take a look. Come on, y'all. Jalen Sugg betrayed you last night. Come on, these got to be good. You got Cat higher, 1.5 three-pointers. Come on, y'all. Mikael Bridges higher, 19.5 points. Come on.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's hitting. Clint Capella higher, 18.5 points and rebounds. And Chef Curry higher, 3.5 three-pointers made. The fact you've been betting on Clint Capella, that's... that's... we lost. Damn. All you do is just rebound. But, Seals, you don't bet on that. What?
Starting point is 00:09:12 What the fuck? You putting your trust in Clint Capella? He be averaging like... No, but he be like top three in like rebounding. Yeah. He averaging what? 12 rebounds? Yeah. I'm not going. He's averaging a double-double. And Miles Bridges, Okay. Oh, well that's points rebounds and assist that is So good we asked to chat if they're riding or fading what your play wait goddamn you just put it up there
Starting point is 00:09:42 Let the numbers kick here. It was favor. Let people kick in favorable, but I know just put it up there. Let the numbers kick in. It was favorable, but I... Let people kick in. It was favorable, but I... I know, just let what I'm saying, just relax. We got a show to get to. Let them gander at it. Like, you know, sometimes when they see it, they just hit the button first. Like, just let them look at it, let them gander.
Starting point is 00:09:58 We got some mail-in ballots coming in. Let them go to YouTube. Let them gander at it a little bit, man. It's California, you know we slow to count votes. How many votes we got? We're at 500 right now. Yeah, see? Goddamn! Those are trolls right now, man.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Hey, hey. It looks good for you right now. Okay, say it, say it. 52% are riding with you right now. Yeah! Good job, Gil. Back in the chats. Good favor.
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Starting point is 00:10:39 with us on YouTube. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So, today is a special day in Lakers history. Nick, I see you rocking the Lakers essential sweatshirt. You were actually involved in this special day. So, 10 years ago, on this day, Kobe went on his infamous rant at practice
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Starting point is 00:11:47 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's some gut bump right there. That is. That's some great bump. Great A bump. And then my favorite part is when you were like, oh, you're not talking to me. You might be talking to all of them, but you ain't talking to me.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So you were on the court for that practice, obviously. What do you remember from that day and that infamous Kobe rant? Oh, man. It was mostly aimed at Jeremy Lin, to tell you the truth. People don't know Jeremy Lin actually cried in the locker room that day. Damn, for real? Damn, man. He was emotional? Emotional, yeah. He got to cry. Crying? Did you give him some tissue or you just let it... Nah, I was just, I was mad because he was really like, he got ripped and shit. And like,
Starting point is 00:12:39 he was the reason he lost, to tell you the truth. I'm still mad at Jeremy Lin that day. Oh, in the scrimmage? It could have been, we could have won, but he got ripped at, you know, bringing the ball up and shit. And, you know, Kobe was just in his head the whole time. I wanted somebody to back me up, you know. But they were scared. So we saw that clip. You said, nobody in the world can guard me one on one. Mm-hmm. Do you feel like you were different from the majority of the rest of that Lakers roster in terms of not letting Kobe's trash talk affect you or impact you
Starting point is 00:13:11 in any way? For sure. At the time, Kobe only had one leg. He couldn't do nothing with me at that time. And that was my team. That was my team. Talk it. Talk it.
Starting point is 00:13:24 The funny thing, though, I know Big Brother Gil called me that same day after practice. That's how you talk to Kobe. That's how you talk to him. That's how you talk to him. Yeah. Get your balls up. That's how you supposed to speak to him about getting
Starting point is 00:13:35 practice. But I said, I called him. Seen that on the line, like, that's what I'm talking about, Dick Gil. That's the shit Kobe want to hear. He want to know something. There's another tiger there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 So, for Gil, Brandon, Gil, you said you watched that call. Nick, for me too as well, Mr. B, what did you guys think when you saw that clip of Kobe? Is that just standard Parford, of course, stuff that goes on in practice, or? No, that's just some good bump right there. They're having good practice. They're going at it.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I mean, that's what the NBA is about. I mean, what? You can probably say what? Out of all the practices, how many practices have you had like that in your career? Oh, that was a good one. That was a good one. I don't know, man, have you had some good ones like that?
Starting point is 00:14:13 Have you had some good ones like that where teammates got emotional, talking trash? Yeah. Yeah. Gil, did you ever have to get in your team like Hubby did there? No, that's okay. All the time when Chucky Atkins, when we got Chucky Atkins, he was the guy that you couldn't rest.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like, you know, I'm not practicing today, I'm chilling, right? He was the dude that'd come in from the beginning just yapping. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I see. Oh, he's a prima donna. He's a prima donna.
Starting point is 00:14:50 He must have heard I was on fire today. It's my team. And then he gets you. Hold on. That's you. That's it. It's my show. It's my show.
Starting point is 00:14:59 No, swear to God. And even if you don't pay attention, when he starts hitting shots in the practice, oh, he's going. He's going. He makes you want to practice, and he makes you want to go hard. Like, so when y'all seen the elevation from 25 to 29, it was because Chucky every day. There was no days off when Chucky was on the team.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So he made you go hard to the point where everybody's trying to fight. But that's, see, that's what media don't see and that's the problem that media causes, right? You ask why someone don't pass the ball, you ask why this person
Starting point is 00:15:40 and this happens, it's because you're not there during this time. This is when everything is established Right. So when Jeremy Lin goes back to the locker room and starts crying He's established something in everybody's mind. No, we don't know what it is But I can guarantee you the respect of his on-court performance is gone Yeah, so if motherfuckers stop looking them off, and media's like,
Starting point is 00:16:07 oh, they're doing this to Jeremy Lin. You don't know how this came about. Shut the fuck up. This has nothing to do with you. Watch the game. Report. But when it comes to the nuances of it, leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:16:19 There's a reason. There's order. You don't know how many kills Kobe had to get, right, to establish his dominance. You don't know how many kills Kobe had to get to establish his dominance. You don't know how many kills he had to get to establish his dominance. We are establishing how we play in the game. We are establishing that in practice and preseason training
Starting point is 00:16:35 camp every fucking day. So you guys writing these articles about whose team is this, that causes real problems in locker rooms. We already know whose team this is. Now you're giving this guy extra ammunition and he walking around like this is really his team. Now I got to bop him some more.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I thought we was on this winning streak, moving good. Now I have to go back into kill mode against him. Now this ain't us working on our what's-it-ain. Now one of us have to go to the opposite team. Yup. And establish who team this is. You know what I mean? Those are the real things that happen.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Those are the rules. Yeah, right. We are on a nice little nine-game winning streak. Then somebody want to write an article about whose team and this and this. Now this person walking in with a big head. Now everything's all fucked up. Now, hey, coach, put him on the good team.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I'll be on the bad team. That Jimmy Butler shit. Now I got to bop him, let him know you are not that guy. Now he's mad at me. Not that guy. Now he's mad at me. Not that guy.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Not that guy. Not that guy. Not that guy. Now he's mad at me. I had to put him back in his position where he was anyway. You just be like, I'm going to go to the other team today, coach. Yeah, I'm going to go to another team.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I was on that team today. So, Nick, we saw that clip. Obviously, a ton of media, a ton of cameras there. No media in the locker room when Jeremy Lin was crying. Did Kobe see Jeremy Lin crying in the locker room? Yeah, he tried to ask, had he talked to him or something. Kobe already in his Kobe zone. So he was like, man, I ain't talking to you motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:18:05 He blacked out. So that what made it like, where he like, he won't listen to me, man. He won't, what type of team are we? We can't even talk to each other. That time, I was like, man, fuck that, man. Yeah, sure, fuck that. It's over.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I said, fuck that, too. I said, man, I was so mad. He said, what type of team? Man, listen, him and all y'all. Jack and Kobe wasn't talking. Yeah, but. They was at the championships. Kobe ain't tripping. You can't do that in that moment.
Starting point is 00:18:27 You got to stand up for yourself. That's why I was more mad at him. So Nick, do you remember how you responded? He got to stand up for himself. You was more mad at Jack. So what? He stand up like what? Just say something.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Like what's up? Like what's up? Get out or what? No, like just talk. Try to go out. He can rip. Swabble up. While Kobe is really just talking crazy to them
Starting point is 00:18:46 and calling everybody trash. You looking trash. Like, you're not standing up for yourself, trying to prove yourself. Like, fuck out of here. Save some to him. Fuck if it's Kobe or not. Shit, you on the court with me.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So, Nick, do you remember how you responded after that random practice? Yeah, I had a game winner and shit. Okay, so let's show the video. I'm glad you remember. Season high, 29 points. This is the next game? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Against the Spurs. Gives up to Lin, three to shoot. He passed it, Jeremy Lin? Long with two, lets it go. Oh, wow. Head score! Head score! It's my team.
Starting point is 00:19:21 This is my team. Don't be mad at him. It's not gonna work over here. He made me tell Jeremy Lin, pass that mother. Pass the ball back to me, mother. I was like my team Back to me mother Yo, that's some hate So Lakers responded to that that Kobe chew out motivational speech by winning their next two games But then they dropped six out of seven. They were 21 to 51. That's it. Hey, it worked it worked He was talking to everybody but you anyway, so six out of seven, they were 21 to 51 that season. But hey, it worked. It worked on the short term. That's how you get teams together.
Starting point is 00:19:47 He was talking to everybody but you anyway, so. You ain't talking to me. I didn't see nobody else doing that, though, so that's why I respect and appreciate you. He's talking to them. Like what? You told you he wasn't talking to me. Let's play ones then, right?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Let's get to it. See, that's what I'm saying. It's like everything with a guy like Kobe, same thing with Jordan, every day he's testing. Yeah, for real. He's testing you. You remember, if you can't talk to him and you see him every day, then he thinks you're going to be afraid to guard and go at Allen Iverson, T-Mac, dunk. He's going to think, yo, you're going to be afraid to guard and go at Allen Iverson, T-Mac.
Starting point is 00:20:25 He's going to think, yo, you're going to be afraid of these guys. You see me every day. You can't say nothing to me. I know you ain't going to say nothing to them. I can't rock with you like that. You stand up to Kobe, he wants you on his team. Think about everybody who stood up to him. Matt Barnes.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Matt Barnes. Metta World Peace. The very next year, free agent, come over here. Yeah. Because if you don't fear me, I know you're not going to fear them. We can go to war together. Right, right, right. Those are those type of people.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Right. You got to think, every time you walk into practice, every time you see him, he's testing you. Yeah. And he didn't practice like that all the time. So when he did... It was just in a message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Well, let's keep this thing moving. There was a big announcement Tuesday in the college basketball world as AJ DaVanza, the top ranked player in the high school class of 2025 and projected top pick in the 2026 NBA draft, made his college announcement. I'll be coming into Brigham Young University. Brigham Young. BYU. Yeah. Cougars.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Go Cougs. Wow. Congratulations, guys. First things first, why BYU? I mean, a lot stood out on my visit. Obviously, Coach Kevin Young there. You know, my ultimate goal is to get to the NBA. And, you know, he coached one of my favorite players, my favorite player of all time, Kevin Durant. And he had high praise about him.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So, I mean, I went on my visit, head coach all the way down to analytics guy, analytics guy all the way to the dietician, all NBA staff, even the strength coach. So, I mean, if it's all NBA, I'm trying to get to the NBA, I think it's going to be the best. Okay. All right. So, Demant is a 6'9 wing who plays for Utah Prep in Hurricane, Utah.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Hurricane, Utah, that don't sound like a place I want to visit, but... He describes his game as a mix of Tracy McGrady and Thunder superstar guard Shea Gildress Alexander. So, DeMansa was also considering
Starting point is 00:22:17 Alabama, Kansas, and North Carolina, but according to reports, he is set to receive an NIL package in the range of $5 to $7 million for what will likely be a one-and-done season But according to reports he is set to receive an NIL package in the range of five to seven million dollars For what will likely be a one-and-done season for the Cougars. He says it's just stood out
Starting point is 00:22:35 The numbers boy, trust me where's BYU at Provo, Utah So that you know, they were local they probably put the full court press on oh, yeah, that's right They got somebody up there got it. Oh, Amy, you saw this? Oh, oh, oh. So, you know, they were local. They probably put the full court press on them. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. They got somebody up there got it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just stay right here, brother.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Where's he from? I think Massachusetts from Nama Sagan. Oh, he's far from home. I mean, it's kind of like the same, Massachusetts. Yeah, I mean, same color, but just far from home. Well, supposed to be Class of 2026 reclassified to Class of 2025. Gil, as you know, your son... Well, supposed to be Class of 2026, reclassified to Class of 2025. Gil, as you know, your son Elijah also reclassified to Class of 2025.
Starting point is 00:23:10 What you don't know is that he has elected me to be manager in Overseas. Signed up to a 359 deal, gave him one degree back. You know what I mean? We're not doing three sixes over here. We're doing 359. Nick got to be in the background. 359. We need $5 million, too, BYU. Be in the background. Right? I mean, we're doing $359,000. Uncle Nick got to be in the background. $359,000. We need $5 million too, BYU.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Be in the background. Right? Money, money, money. You're on the side of us. But when y'all hear that, how crazy is it that schools are now doling out $5 to $7 million, allegedly, reportedly? I mean, honestly, I mean. Mormons got bread like that. You know how I feel?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. I feel like, you know. Mormon money, more problems. You know, when I first made my decision to do it and now look where it's at now. So I'm happy the kids are getting paid.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Brent, as you know, trendsetter. You went to Italy instead of going to college to get that bread. You know, to see a kid, you know, get the $5 million, $7 million,
Starting point is 00:23:58 one and done, man, go get it, man. Like, you know, the kids overseas, when I first played against Rookie Rubio, you know, he was already a millionaire. You know, by the time I played against him, he was playing professional at 13. So, you know, the kids overseas, when I first played against Rookie Rubio, you know, he was already a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Mm-hmm. You know, by the time I played against him, he was playing professional at 13. So, you know, when I see kids like this getting paid and got game and, you know, can do their thing, hell yeah, I'm rolling. BYU came to y'all with 5 to 7 mil. I'm going. You're going to be a cougar. For sure.
Starting point is 00:24:20 It's kind of dope that he's going there, too, though. Mm-hmm. No, I like it, too. That's a dope thing. It's random as hell. I. Mm-hmm. No, I like it, too. It's random as hell. I didn't see that. Yeah, I like that. Like, I'm glad it's not a Kentucky. I'm glad it's not like a school that's where it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:33 all right, now we're about to watch BYU. Hell yeah. No facts. Like, you got to watch BYU now. You know, but, I mean, usually the bigger schools really got the bigger bag, so the fact that they came up with that type of money, you know, for him, worth every penny of it, right? Mormons got bread on the lug, Gil. Yeah, of course. They don't spend it.
Starting point is 00:24:50 They... Prove it. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, he's proven... They see him all the time. Yeah, that's right. He's proven himself to them. Fuck, I'm gonna get drafted there. But here's a disclaimer. All of y'all, all of y'all out there are not AJ.
Starting point is 00:25:06 All of y'all are not Cooper Flagg. Facts. Meaning the most money that is being given is not in all y'all best interest. With Cooper Flagg, no matter where he went, he's going to still be number one or number two. He can go to Wichita State. When he comes out, he's going to be be number one or number two, right? He can go to Wichita State. When he comes out, he's going to be the number one draft pick, right? Some of you guys, you have to be careful of the bag over position
Starting point is 00:25:35 because what I mean by this is this. If a team is offering you, let's say, $300,000, and you're going to be a top five pick, and you go to a team that gives you, let's say, $300,000, and you're going to be a top five pick, and you go to a team that gives you $3 million, and then you're going to drop to $10 million because of who y'all are going to be playing, the viewership, that hurts you. It wasn't worth it because from top five to 10,
Starting point is 00:25:59 that's more than $2 million. You done lost $15, $20 million. Not necessarily. Shit, yes, sir. If you're a top five pick in the draft, that's already solidified. No, not if you... No, no, no. I mean, I'm about...
Starting point is 00:26:13 In high school, like, right now... It happened last year, too. If you go to a school and you're not playing very... Let's say DeJuan Wagner, Jr. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Right? Where you going? You go in, you're supposed to be a top five coming to the draft,
Starting point is 00:26:23 and now you're in your second year. Yeah, but wasn't Kentucky was... They were stacked, though, right? Oh, yeah, but see, that's what I'm saying. Where you going? You're supposed to be top five coming to the draft, and now you're in your second year. Yeah, but Kentucky, they were stacked, though, right? Yeah, but see, that's what I'm saying. So you're taking money to go there. That little money that you're getting compared to how much you lose in the draft is like, you were supposed to be top five, so you went to another school
Starting point is 00:26:41 that was going to highlight your game, top five. Now you come in, you come in and you go 15. Think about top five money in 15. You're losing $15 million to take that extra million. It ain't worth it for you. Right, so he should have went to a smaller. He should have went to a school that was just you. You get to do what you did in high school.
Starting point is 00:27:00 You sit here, there's three five stars. Right, right, right. No, for sure. One of y'all going to get fucked. There's no dealing in the life right now for sure Yeah, one of y'all gonna get fucked and you know Dylan like the shoot doesn't say I guess one gonna get fucked It was you and but all of them have to start looking at that like this They do the NIL money for six months versus your draft status. You have to protect your draft status, which means Like from one to three like it all matters. All these numbers matter. You know what they're doing now with Rucker or Rucker, whatever? Them kids that go to Rucker or something like that?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah. That's what I'm saying, yeah. So what was the difference when they were doing it? So the difference is because of money now? Because when Derrick Rose and all of them was going one and done, and they was all playing on the same, like Russell Rushbrook and Kevin, all these guys was playing, it wasn't that. It's only a few.
Starting point is 00:27:43 But what I'm saying is only a few can do it. Who was on Derrick Rose's team with them? It was... That is just Derrick Rose. I'm just saying, just the talent-wise, like with Greg, like Greg Oden and all this, they all played together. It wasn't an issue then. Now think of it like this.
Starting point is 00:27:57 How many five-stars went to Duke this year? Isn't... Just one? One? No. There's a few. There's a few. I thought it was just one. No, they only talk about one. No, there's a few. There's a few. No, you they only talk about one Right. So the other other ones who could have been one and done and went to the draft
Starting point is 00:28:11 So I want you guys get handicapped you automatically got a steady second year and then more more five stars is coming in Right. So you're just like you're the USC you're losing millions. You're not losing thousand. You're losing four five stars I was gonna go go to UCLA. Right? And if you look at their pre-draft before they went in there. Too many. Aaron Afalo, Josh Shipp. Farmer.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Farmer. He's going to come with their crew. You're going to have fun though. You're going to have fun. The best bet is not to be on these stacked teams anymore. Well, unless, well, right? It was three of the same. It all depends on who you are.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Because if you're a top five pick, you need to go somewhere where they're going to just highlight you then. It was three of the same positions, I feel like. Wagner, Dillon, Reeves, all of them. Yeah, you got to go somewhere where you know you could go with a top five big if you're a guard, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So five to seven million is the reports. From who?
Starting point is 00:29:04 But do we see a college NIL deal in a player's second year eclipsing what an overall number one pick would make? Like do we see it ever getting to the point where it gets to that ten to twelve million dollar range? Per year? If the name is big enough. No, because it's per year, right? You know, a rookie's gallery, I mean you, like, who was number one pick this year?
Starting point is 00:29:24 Fifty-seven million? Yeah, who was number one pick this year? 57 million? If I call you, yes, I should. Yeah, it was 57 million. He's making, I think, 12.61 this season. Oh, you mean somebody's going to make that for one season? For one season. Do we see it getting to that point? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah. So. Because of right now, there's reports of college teams going to be owned by people now. That's what they're trying to ship to. Yeah, so you can have real investors. You can have NBA or all these. Mark Zuckerberg, they can sit there. Big three college teams.
Starting point is 00:29:57 All right, so look. Now, this is why I say it only happens for a certain person. Okay, so let's say he's the number one pick going in, right? Okay. AJ, if he dropped the number two by being in BYU, he loses $6 million from the first pick to the second pick. He made seven, so it don't hurt him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You see what I'm saying? Now, if he dropped to the third pick, he would lose $12 million. That wasn't hurt him. Okay, you see what I'm saying now if he dropped to the third pick He will lose 12 million That wasn't worth it because you got paid 7 million there you lose 12 Because of the school right, but he can't go third He can't go if he goes and he's the third pick in the NBA draft because he went to BYU They don't have the national schedule. It was a bad investment. They have it now. But I'm saying it would be considered a bad investment. BYU plays in the Big 12, though, so they're going... I'm just saying...
Starting point is 00:30:50 Is Zaga still there? Who? Is Zaga? Oh. I'm just saying, him going to three, bad investment. He goes to two, basically equal money. But that's how I look at it. I look at it like, what are you supposed to be projected?
Starting point is 00:31:04 Now, if you slip, how far can you slip before this was, the money don't even matter. But that's... No, no, he's not slipping. He can't slip. That's what I said, he's not slipping. But where's this money coming from? Like, where's the five, seven...
Starting point is 00:31:19 You know, NIL found out they got... Brother, brother, brother, brother. It's like crypto right now. I don't want to ask the question, where. Where come do I get my money or not? Right when I cast somebody I don't know where it comes from, but I know where it's going. I'm looking the other way Does he sign a shadow kid who's give it like when they say yeah, and I don't want we gotta find out God of water So good you said all money ain't good money.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So that brings us to our next topic. So Penny Hardaway played collegially at Memphis before spending 14 seasons in the league. Also starred with Shaq in the cult classic Blue Chips, which dealt with the dark side of college basketball back in the 90s. We're kind of seeing some of that now in 2024. So Penny's been coaching at his alma mater since 2018. And during a recent appearance on Zach Randolpholph and tony allen's out the mud podcast coach penny shed some light on what he thinks are the biggest issues with the college game complacency setting in like
Starting point is 00:32:15 what what's to it yeah most guys are saying hey man i ain't even caring about the league if i could get two millions back to back i can just ride off in the sunset i can go look at the league a little bit if it don't work i got this money to fall back on. They're looking at it as fallback money. They ain't even thinking, I got to grind this year to get to the league. Because, you know, that was the motivation. That ain't the motivation no more. They're like, I can take this money and just ride off in the sunset.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So whatever they bring it to the table right on that year is what they bring it to the table. You can't hurry them. You can't make them go harder. It's like, this is me. And with the transfer portal being right there with't make them go harder. It's like, this is me. And with the transfer portal being right there with it too, it's kind of like, y'all don't want me here
Starting point is 00:32:51 or I could go get some money somewhere else. Can y'all imagine Coach Sutton and Coach Izzo re-recruiting y'all every year? You got to re-recruit your own guy. Soon as he's nowhere, hey man, come on, let's meet. A negotiation? You got to negotiate with him again after the season over. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:33:07 That's tough. No, bro. Yes. That's where it's at now. Because another team going to be tampering all year saying, they gave you $600,000, I'm going to give you a million. Shit. Get that meal ticket.
Starting point is 00:33:18 A couple of deals like that. Yeah, I can see why my mother-in-law be saying, hey, man, I'm done with this shit. To hell with the league. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I don't like that, bro. No, they took my motherfucker be saying, hey, man, I'm done with this shit. To hell with the league. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I don't like that, bro. I don't believe that. No, they took the love out of the game, man. I'm happy these young men are getting
Starting point is 00:33:29 money, but it's taking the love out of the game from a coach's point of view because they get all the money, all the minutes, all the shots, and then I want to practice hard. Mm. Man, that's on Penny, though. That's on him. I think that's on any level, right?
Starting point is 00:33:45 So, it brings up my point. Is college basketball cooked, or do coaches in schools need to give with the times? If you can't hang, you got to get out the game. Right. I mean, you mad because somebody have a fallback because they know they not going to be able to get to the NBA? You all had dreams of getting to the league.
Starting point is 00:34:04 How much do you think would have been impacted? I mean, yeah, but some guys, like, they just want a D1 scholarship, be able to do their, you know, time. Those are for the players that, you know, know. But I guess getting the bread too soon. Reality is reality, right? How many people make it to the NBA? Man, right?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Very small amount. So, you know what I mean? So, if only a certain few is going to be able to get drafted and you crying about the kids that you get to manipulate, ah, you know, you're not going to, you know, they said you're going to drop to 15 to 20 so you might as well stay back one year. You can't do that shit no more. Yeah. Right? Like, now you, like, now you have to be up front.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Mm. Right? Yeah. That's what the coaches, coaches seem like they're scared to be coaches now. Huh. Right? You're scared to be a coach versus being a dictator.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Right? This is not a prison. You can't run like a prison anymore. Yeah, you're not a court. Right? A kid got a bad attitude, and he's talking back, but he's balling. You have to,
Starting point is 00:35:10 now you can't try to make an example. Sit your ass down here. Now he's stuck. Now leverage is gone. Now your leverage is gone. Now you got to sit there and say, all right, this is how we're going to run it,
Starting point is 00:35:20 and go. The elite is always the elite. The elite going to go. There's going to be, like I'd rather them take the money and do this shit now versus go to the league and now that's my teammate.
Starting point is 00:35:34 This college shit weeds out that bullshit of he played hard just this year so he can get bread. Now he don't want to play no more. And I got to deal with this for three, four years. Yeah. Y'all forgot them same personalities in league. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Mm-hmm. I got the bag. I'm good. Contract easy. I'm gaining weight. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about. We got to deal with them niggas in the locker room. Yeah, we'll take it, but...
Starting point is 00:36:02 No, I'm just saying, we got to deal with that. Right? But I guess take it, but... No, I'm just saying, we got to deal with that. That's annoying. Right? But I guess is it worse now? They only want to play hard. Penny don't recruit good. They want to play hard on the last year they contract. You know when somebody contract up. You know, man, he playing with some energy.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, he got that money he trying to get. And he only recruit names, too. Penny recruited with Mikey Williams. And he only recruit names, too. Penny recruited what, Mikey Williams? Yeah. He recruit names. No, he recruit, just, I mean, he just don't have the, like the Penny Hardaway name
Starting point is 00:36:36 doesn't stand alone like it did before. Well, I feel like, shit, not any name don't stand alone like it did before. If you make it 500 here, and then another school comes in and says, I'll give you a million. I mean, we saw with BYU, right, you know, beating out all these blue bloods to get the number one prospect in the country.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Money talks. But that's good for the sport, though. That's good for the sport. You think it's good for college basketball? Yeah, because, you know, see the same. They got to work now. Going to the same schools. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And it's normally always going to be Kentucky, Duke, USC. The first two, yeah. UCLA sometimes. We've got to get our bread running. They just got to work now. Which is funny. West Coast people always go to either UCLA, Arizona, or USC. It's good to see a BYU.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I mean, they got to work now. The coaches get paid like crazy anyway. They job solicit. Party on negotiation. At the end of the day, it's... They in negotiation every year? It all depends on who you get. And you get the kid that don't need money. His parents don't need money. You have to negotiate
Starting point is 00:37:37 him. It's negotiate with what you're seeing. Right? There's two different people when you're negotiating. You got the kid and you got his parents, right? That is two different people. The kid cares about basketball
Starting point is 00:37:53 because he know he ain't really going to touch the money, right? So you're negotiating him different and his parents is different too. So, you know, you're dealing with usually a single mother or a single father or both parents is different too. So, you know, you're dealing with usually a single mother or a single father or both parents that need money, then they're money-fronted, right?
Starting point is 00:38:12 You got to pay them something to shut them up because obviously when a kid gets to school, you're going to take care of him because he is who he is. So you got to play to both egos at that point. And at the end of the day... You know, a kid who has money, right? He's coming from NBA backgrounds. Money, money, money...
Starting point is 00:38:29 That shit don't mean nothing. Money don't mean nothing. Yeah. You take away Xbox... Yeah. You take away Xbox, that mean more. You tell Elijah he got infinity motherfucking V-Bucks, god damn it, you got him. Fuckin' some anime, some NFL...
Starting point is 00:38:44 College coaches take care of him. You got him. Fucking some anime. College coaches take off. You got him. Some anime on. Take away his anime, some TV. Hey, that's fucking hilarious, dog. You can't watch TV, the boy. That's hilarious, dog. Hey, somebody said, we're going to let you watch all the TV you want
Starting point is 00:38:58 at the University of California, Los Angeles. Somebody said, all I got to do is offer you some unlimited ice cream. I think we'd get them. I said, you goddamn right. Yeah, for real. Yeah, you get that little fucking key some unlimited ice cream. I think we'd get them. I said, you got them right. For real? Yeah, you get up on foot. A key to the ice cream shop? You good.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Name it after him. Name it after him. Get him to set it. I'm starving. But you just got to be smarter on who you're going after, what perks you got to give up. But it is negotiation. You got to roll out the red carpet.
Starting point is 00:39:27 So you guys came up, we all came up in a different time. Back in the old days, you had to get that money in a gym bag on the low. Ground bag. Brandon, you said, F all that, I'm going to go overseas and just get it, playing against some grown men. But how much did the financial aspect motivate you to get to the league, and would you still have that drive if you were coming up in this area? Nick, if you went to SC, you stepped on campus right away.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And they would say, here's a meal. I tried every year to go to the league. They kept telling me, nah, man. You ain't good enough? You ain't good enough. Dang. I tried out of high school, because out of high school, I didn't. You know, I had to get an extra year because my grades messed up.
Starting point is 00:40:05 L-A-U-S-D. You know, I had to go to court. I really set the tone for everybody, you know. Had to go to court three times to get my extra year. Then they erased all that. Now people get extra years and shit. So, you know, thank me for that because I couldn't pass my SATs and shit. They don't have SATs no more.
Starting point is 00:40:24 What the fuck? Shut up. Yeah, no, they don't. They don't have SATs no more. Yeah They just take your word for it no no no SATs don't matter but but hey Hey, but just think what you said something you said you said they kept telling you you wasn't ready Yeah, like but today a kid could just he could just go like even go test it and come back testing Yeah, like I can tell ya they said you go now They gonna set the example. Because I was trying to be like Trevor. Because Trevor went. I'm like, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:40:49 If he could do it, I know I could do it. Trevor, reason why you're in UCLA, definitely. But what? Slipped to the second round. Yeah. Had to kind of fight to take that lead. As long as I got it, that motherfucker, I feel like I made it. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:00 It's very difficult, man. Yeah. They're using the money as a deterrent, right? It's a fork in a road, right? Whoever don't get that money. Just like the SATs was a fork in a road. Motherfuckers couldn't go to college because they couldn't pass the SAT. Right? It weeds out some people.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And they knew that test was right. This NIL money... That's crazy. This NIL money is going to weed out. Right? Yeah, you're going to get a quick little lick. Uh-huh. But you ain't going to make it to the big leagues.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's going to weed you out. It's going to weed out who don't supposed to be there. Wait, wait. Okay. When did the SAT shit get thrown out? 2020. Yeah. Like during COVID. I can't sue for that. During COVID. Oh, you might be there. Wait, wait. Okay. Oh, because the SAT shit get thrown out. 2020. Yeah. Like during COVID.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I can't sue for that. During COVID. Oh, you might be able to get some bread. How you gonna sue when you end up going to college, man? Because I had to take it
Starting point is 00:41:52 four times. Nobody told you to be dumb. Look, it ain't about the dumbness. Oh, yeah, you can do that political, you know, where I'm coming from, the black man.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You can do all social white cars. I had to get a number. I couldn't reach the number. You couldn't reach 400. It was more than 400. So you think guys can get weeded out because of the money they make? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Because they go, I'm just being honest, man. Shout out Neon Boudin. You look at the, what's the name, right? Let's say a kid, right? Let's say I tell you, hey, you come to this school, one and done, you'll be a top five pick. You're like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Another school tell your parents, we'll give you five million dollars here. I wish they was giving that money. We're going to break him off the bench the first year. His second year, he's the man. Which one you think your parents going to do? Where you think they going to lead you? If I'm a top five pick? Where you think they gonna lead you if I'm a top five pick where you think they gonna lead you they need money today Oh
Starting point is 00:42:51 They need money. They need a five they don't give a fuck about you Yet they hire agent and stuff Yeah But what I'm saying is but think about what your parents is going to be sitting there doing all the time. Right, right, right, right, right, right. They're going to want the five months. We're going to want the five months. That's in the black community. We can wait 24 months. We can wait 24 months.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, don't worry about it. Our parents are so dumb. They used to stay giving parents. Motherfucker, yeah. You think our parents are so dumb because they never been there before. Yeah, I know. No, for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:43:17 But let's just be real. What? They forced you to transfer like that in a Alabama football player. Yeah, they forced you to transfer. Like, you don't. The one who was sliding in. Oh, no. Like, they forced you to transfer. Like, you don't... The one who was sliding in? Oh, no. Like, I'm telling these kids,
Starting point is 00:43:28 man, yo, get professionals. Like, get professional. If you don't feel your parent is smart enough to understand what's going on, it's okay to get someone... But how many kids... I know.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Everybody thinks their parents are smart. Obviously, as you get a little bit older, you start to recognize and realize maybe it's a little too big. You know how many parents got that much involved? You know what I'm saying? You know how your parents, you know they're dumb?
Starting point is 00:43:54 When you ask them, what did you major in? Man, you can't do that. If you ask them, major in finances, basketball, and business, and you a nurse, you do nurse shit, let me hire somebody that has to do the basketball. Some of y'all just need to be parents. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Who parents, like, guide their kids? Like, if you told your mom or your dad, I wanted to go here, he's going to be like, hell no, you got to go here. Who does that? To date, all parents. Since that NIL. I picked my school.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I did my own. Since NIL done kicked in, brother, it's been different. These kids... With the money, though. These kids being pimped, bro. They're being pimped.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's a fact. I don't know, bro. That's a fact. They've been pimping their kids, man. Bro, a lot of us have been pimped as kids in this AAU business.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I mean, that's been going on for a minute. Really, since the shoe company used to have been. Bro, I can't... Bro, that's been going on for a minute, really since the shoe company stepped in. Bro, I can't... Bro, listen, they give your parents a little something. Like Coach Andre a little bit, but I don't think they gonna... The Andre, like, those are the parents now. Coach Andre? They the middle.
Starting point is 00:44:59 They are. Yeah, they the middle now. For sure. So in light of that, in light of what Penny said about players just wanting to bag and kind of not having that love for the game, how many players really love the game right now, do you think? In the NBA? Or just even coming up now, AAU, high school, college?
Starting point is 00:45:15 I think it's motivated. You feel like the love is still there? You can't tell someone who's been playing since five years old, who's been doing all this, they don't love it. Right? That just sounds like, then why are they doing it? Because they're not getting paid until they got to the professional. So all these AAU games and all these kids out here playing, knowing that they might not ever be NBA players, they love the game.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That's what it is. Right? Now, when college comes, there love the game. That's what it is. Right? Now, when college comes, there's another incentive. Like, yeah, we're going to give you $5 million. Come on, man. No 11, 12-year-old knows what that really is. But does a 17, 18-year-old know what that is? No. They don't know what
Starting point is 00:45:57 it is. Like, you can tell them they have unlimited Jordans. You can, listen, you don't even have to say $7 million. You can say unlimited Jordans. Them motherfuckers be like, sold. Yes. All they know is Jordan. They don't, they know the concept that I get free shoes. Seven million. What? They don't know what they're doing with that. They don't know what to buy. Their appetite is not that. They can buy a chain or some shit. YouTube, YouTube done changed a lot. They love what comes from hooping now too. Yeah. But they don't, but what I'm saying is you got the cameras there. What. Yeah, but they don't love... But what I'm saying is... You got the cameras there.
Starting point is 00:46:25 What I'm saying is they don't really know what $7 million is. Oh, yeah. Because their appetite... Like, I asked my son, I said... Oh, they don't at all. Like, you know, when he did his first NIL deal, and, you know, he's mad that he wasn't touching the money,
Starting point is 00:46:43 and I'm like, what do you need the money for? What do you do? He was like... I don't know. I said, you want some shoes or nothing? He said, no, I get free Adidas. You want clothes? He don't care about clothes.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Xbox? Like, what do you want to use your money for? Tiktok. Food? Like, how much? And I said, how much food money do you want to use your money for? TikTok. Food? Like, how much, and I said, how much food money do you need a month? And he was like, $1,500. Yeah. So, I did catch him at Cain's the other day. Yeah, Cain.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did catch him at Cain's. So, he was arguing because, you know, he felt that, you know, he was deceived. And I'm like, what's the point of complaining? It's money lost, but it's money you wouldn't need anyway. You wouldn't use it anyway. So just chop it up as lesson learned. Lesson learned.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You know not to put money in that person's hands. Yeah, for sure. Right? So now you know, okay, this is what this is. It just took a little dip. That's it. You'd rather find that out today than go into the pros and find it out. You just caught it early.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah. Caught it way early. How many kids don't have you as a dad? Yeah. No, true. From different economic standpoint. If somebody don't have no money and somebody takes some money, that's a totally different. No, no, in fact.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You're right. You're right. Who's going around giving these kids speeches and motivational speeches and stuff like that and they don't have that anymore? I mean, I'm sure they do, but- Yeah. Like somebody who's lived that- They might be on the payroll too.
Starting point is 00:48:11 To be able to tell it and talk about that. Because that's true what you just said. Right. Like high school kids, man. We used to have that a lot. Like think about it. Just to be honest. How you get from Massachusetts all the way to Utah?
Starting point is 00:48:25 You know, but- Delta? Yeah, yeah. But you know what I mean? Like, you know, let's just be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You pulling the kid all the way from here to here, right? So it's already starting. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Mm-hmm. Right? These kids is being used- The thing is already- Early, man. Yeah, yeah. Like, shit, these kids is being used early, man. Yeah, yeah. Like, shit, when'd you come out? 08. 08, and you was being paid then.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yeah. You was getting money then, so this shit been going on for a while. Now it's just up front. So do the people that got in trouble get their, like, jerseys and shit back, like the Reggie Bush? I know Reggie got his back. I think he's got his grievance. I know he got his back, but, like like Chris Webber and all them other people. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I'm just rebels, running rebels and shit. Kenny Anderson and Larry Johnson and all them. Oh, yeah. Just be... Fab Five. Listen, I get the concept, but I don't like the open pandera open pandora's box um idea where a law that's put in today you can use it retroactive i don't like that idea because when you just think about
Starting point is 00:49:37 life itself that's a very dangerous concept yeah right that something that's legal or illegal and then they make it legal or illegal and then now you can backtrack yeah no no no I don't like that because you know how many people today that's legal and then they make it illegal in two years then they can go back and then everybody get in trouble and then you can get in trouble for it. Hell no. You'd be like, wait, hold on. That shit was legal then. Well, look at all the people that were selling weed back in the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Or they should be able to get out, right? What? No. It was illegal when you did it. That's how it works. It was illegal when you did it. But if I thought it wasn't harmful, and then you find out that it's not harmful, and I get locked up for it,
Starting point is 00:50:23 because you're thinking back, nah, because then you're going to start opening up a lot of other things. No, but what I'm saying is or even take it like... But I'm saying it was illegal when you were doing it. So you got in trouble because it was illegal. But people was really getting penalized
Starting point is 00:50:37 for it. But it was because it was illegal. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, you can't. This is... We're not talking about like... high-end, crazy shit. We're talking about money. Giving somebody money. So what if they make... We're not talking about nothing else.
Starting point is 00:50:50 But it's still the same concept. That's why I say if you use it here, what says they don't use it here? What if murder's legal? What if they be like, oh, murder's legal, and then everybody who ever murders somebody get out of jail? Like, you don't want... It'll never be legal. Shit like that. Now you're thinking extreme. No, but what maybe know what I'm saying is that but it's the concept
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm saying I don't like the concept of retro with the day it becomes legal. That's when it's legal move forward I'm gonna say just like everything else in life like people got in trouble for Taking a hundred dollars five fifty, that type of shit. Like, that shit hurts people. People like, all right, what's his name? Marcus Williams. The TVs are computers and shit.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Shouldn't have stole them. Stealing, stealing. Like, it's stealing. They were stealing for money to try to get something. They was eating noodles and shit. Masterpiece son just got caught for stealing. Stealing is stealing. That's different, though.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Stealing when you got NIL money. Now you're just a thief. Somebody was stealing to try to get some money back in the day. You were resourceful. Stealing some refrigerators is crazy. So we asked the chat, is college hoops cooked? 62% said yes. We also asked the chat, do young hoopers love the game?
Starting point is 00:52:03 53% said yes. We also asked the chat do young hoopers love the game? 53% say yes. Okay. What state is, they said giving a girl a shot is now illegal? Is that Michigan? A shot of what? Liquor. Oh, wait, for real? Yeah, I think
Starting point is 00:52:19 Michigan passed a law where you can't send a girl a shot. You give a girl a shot is Considered illegal if y'all have sex Is something like that one of them states passed that now think about if they retro back Motherfucker you don't you out there having a normal motherfucking time There's 400 counts of it, then you're done. No, that shit, we talking about giving money. See, but that's, what I'm saying is the concept. That shit, man, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:52:48 I ain't even rich. But that's why I'm saying the concept of retro and stuff, people can go back and destroy everything. You should. That means a lot of people will be in trouble. The whole world. A lot of people will be in trouble. You can't think about it on one side.
Starting point is 00:53:04 You have to think about it both. So you have to think about, like, all right, clearing up weed, and then you have to think about, okay, turning this that was legal illegal. You have to do it both ways. Did you find this? Was it Michigan? I didn't see it. It's only legal because it was.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It's cat? No, we're searching. You know if Gil's looking. But let's keep this thing moving because we've got a lot more to discuss. With New Year's resolutions, many of us will vow to eat healthier, and that's a good thing. But what about your beloved pets and their nutrition? Naturopathic doctor Dennis Black is on a mission to provide better nutrition for cats and dogs because truthfully, it's not what you are feeding your pet, it's what you're not. Which is why he created Rough Greens and Meow Greens in the first place. for cats and dogs because truthfully, it's not what you are feeding your pet, it's what you're not.
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Starting point is 00:54:41 Walks are lasting longer. Got my little poop bag. Okay. Picking up the shit. Got my little poop bag. You don't just leave it? Nah, put my little poop bag. Oh, yeah, okay, you're an honorable man. And then when there's breath stinking,
Starting point is 00:54:52 give me a little chew. It depends. Yeah, man. Got my little bag. But, yeah. Your dog sleeps in the bed? We've been doing our mouths. Yeah. I'm not the butt!
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Starting point is 00:55:12 Bucks and Magic kicked off the NBA Cup quarterfinals in Milwaukee Tuesday night, with the Magic missing their top two players in Paolo Bancaro and Franz Wagner, both out with torn obliques. Despite the Bucks being six-and-a-half-point favorites entering the game, they still needed big performances from their free-time duo to secure the win. So let's take a look at the highlights. Giannis continued his MVP-level season, leading the Bucs with 37.7 rebounds, four blocks, and two steals on 15 for 24 shooting.
Starting point is 00:55:45 It was the Greek Freaks' league-leading 15-30 point game this season. Dame have 15 in the fourth quarter, including nine points in the final minute of the game, finished with 28 points, nine assists, going 8 for 15 from the field. Let's watch that real quick. 10 for 10 from the line. Okay. You already know.
Starting point is 00:56:05 The difference maker is in the crowd. 6-0. 6-0 to get it back. Still recovering from the Achilles. But after Gogo Batasi dunked on Giannis, Giannis got his get back. Bobby Portis added 22 and 10 boards off the bench. 9 for 11 shooting. So in his third game back, Chris Middleton didn't score going 0 for 2 from the field
Starting point is 00:56:24 in 20 minutes to action. Did have eight assists and three steals helping spark a big So in his third game back, Chris Middleton didn't score, going 0 for 2 from the field in 20 minutes to action. Did have eight assists and three steals, helping spark a big run in the third quarter. Jalen Suggs had the hot hand for the Magic with a career-high 32 points, along with nine rebounds and four steals. He hit those threes. Gil, you did not get your pick-up from yesterday
Starting point is 00:56:38 on your partner pack. I thought it was 3.5. But it ended up being 2.5. Yeah, it was 2.5. Because on my original thing, it was 3.5, so I think it was 3.5. But it ended up being 2.5. Yeah, it was 2.5. Because on my original thing, it was 3.5, so I think it went. Decanery going down. Suggs also had nine rebounds, four steals. Suggs had 18 points in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:56:56 including a stretch where he scored 10 straight. The Bucs, the Bucs shared about 300 minutes. Dame hit a big three to tie the game. Obviously, the rest of the history, they went on to win. So the Bucs are the only team to return hit a big three to tie the game. Obviously the rest of the history they went on to win. So the Bucs are the only team to return to the NBA Cup semi-finals from last season. And Bucs assistant coach, Darvin Hamm, is the only undefeated coach in NBA Cup history at 12 and 0.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Shout out Darvin Hamm. Darvin's room. Bucs are 11 to 3 in their last 14 games, but are 2-8 against teams with a winning record and 11-3 against teams 500 or worse. Mr. B, how was it? You said 2-8. What do you mean exactly?
Starting point is 00:57:36 You always do this to me. 2-8 when they played? I believe at the time of their meeting. What do you mean? Exactly. Because is game one against Philly. Is that part of the two? That's 500.
Starting point is 00:57:50 That's 0-0, so that don't really count. That's 0-0. That's 0-0. That don't count, so we're trying to figure out. We will get to the bottom of it. Okay. Either way, showing that when they play good teams, they struggle. When they play trash teams, they're dominant.
Starting point is 00:58:06 No. They're just better trash. No, no, no. When they play good teams, they're tired. When they play bad teams, they're energized. Also, I've got to mention that Torian Prince, only player to be 12-and-0 in the NBA Cup as well
Starting point is 00:58:21 as with the Lakers last season as they won the inaugural NBA Cup championship, still the hardest NBA Cup championship. Bucs about to win it. But, Mr. B, how was the Bucs' energy last night, and how has it been in their past few games? Struggle offense last night. Struggled, especially with Orlando not having their two best players.
Starting point is 00:58:39 But we pulled it out. But depending on who we got, the Knicks or the Hawks. Knicks or the Hawks. Knicks or the Hawks. So- As they say. Yeah. In certain- We got to figure out the offensive side.
Starting point is 00:58:52 It was definitely not there, it was definitely struggling. It was looking bad. We shouldn't have had to go down the stretch with that team without their two superstars. How concerning, obviously they're missing Paolo, missing Franz, a gritty young Magic squad, though a lot of good young players. How concerning is that for you that the Magic, without their two best players, that game still came down the wire?
Starting point is 00:59:12 Well, just the fact that that's the team we could meet in the playoffs if things work out the way they work out, and with them not having both their best players, yeah, that was, you know, that's going to be something we have to re-watch. Are you ready to give the Bucs any credit, Chet? What? Fifth in the East. Did you watch the game?
Starting point is 00:59:36 I did watch the basketball game. On Ted Turner's network. The Bucs can win some shit now. Yeah, but the offense, bro. Wait, so you watched that game and then wrote, write that again, what'd you say? Are you going to give them what? I just pulled that. Oh, I was going to say, you must have just pulled that.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I did not write that. There's no way you was watching the game and like, oh my God, this is a great team. They are playing very well now. A win is a win. It has to be the animals. They're going to Vegas. They're going to Las Vegas. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:07 They don't need to go to Vegas. They need to go to... Where's that gym at? What street is that on? What gym? The arena. Oh, Fiservorm? Fiservorm?
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah. They should go to Fiservorm. They also have a practice facility. Go to the practice facility and practice new motherfucking plays. Right? If they don't, if they can't think of it themselves, tell Doc,
Starting point is 01:00:29 go on NBA 2K. Right? Go to anyone's playbook, copy them shits down, add them to your roster. Because it looks the same since you got there. You have one person playing iso ball
Starting point is 01:00:48 over there then if he don't have it you have another player playing iso ball over there then the rest of the three stooges don't even need to be on the court at this point they're not gonna give you no free throws they barely gonna touch the ball. I mean, listen, it's great offense. It's like early 2000s. Bobby, A.J. Green. It's like early, listen. That's all we have, though, is just the high pick and roll. No, what I'm saying, it reminds me of early 2000.
Starting point is 01:01:15 You had Kobe, you had Shaq, and then you had the Pips, right? Right? They just out there in the background dancing, doing a little dance. No one came for them. That's how this offense looks. No one else on the team is doing anything, but you're not moving them around so they can be effective. That's why a team that don't have no one on the team can stay with you guys
Starting point is 01:01:37 because for the most part, it's basically two against five. You're not running them around so they're attacking the basket, maybe get some put up. They're just sitting in the corner. But the number three don't do that, though. They don't got other guys that could create. I don't give a fuck what you can do. I can back bait, back door, slide off.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Like, do something. They need another person that could create. I don't need no creation. I need movement. I don't need you to get the ball and do another is that could create. I don't need no creation. I need movement. I don't need you to get the ball and do another iso. Move. They sitting in the corner. They need to move.
Starting point is 01:02:12 If you pass on the ball, they ain't dribble. Move. I don't need you to dribble. Luau Dane, move. Cut slash fly. I don't give a fuck what you do. Run 17s. Instead of New Era.
Starting point is 01:02:23 17s. You don't run them type of plays like that. But they can't come down and run them type of plays in this type of era where people just shooting and running the gun. But we need some type of concept. But we can't just keep going high pick and run. If all you got is
Starting point is 01:02:37 two players that can go one-on-one. One-on-one? Cool. These two can go one-on-one. The rest of y'all, move. Well, where they gonna move into the way? Backdoor, cut can go one-on-one. The rest of y'all, move. Well, where they going to move into the way? Back door, cut, slice. You know our offense. You know when Giannis gets it on one wing, he going to go right. Then he go year-round dunk.
Starting point is 01:02:54 When he's doing that, don't go that way. When you're moving, you're bringing your man to him. Nah. I'm not playing basketball there. It's Milwaukee. They need other guys. Look, at this point, listen, at this point, a more functional offense is, hey, soon as Dame or Giannis
Starting point is 01:03:10 pass half court, the other three of y'all run sprints. That's what all they doing. Just go. No, no, they're not. They're just sitting there. Like, just run. Maybe your defender might chase you a little bit. They're running from here to there. From here your defender might chase you a little running from here
Starting point is 01:03:27 From here to here. I need you to go over here to here now. Just run back and forth baseline. Just touch the baseline Oh, oh, oh, maybe running somebody else just do this shit the whole I think get some calories going Need somebody else that could take get the good. I mean Chris Milton just got back, but he gonna take some time. So let's talk... He gonna play ISO. Look at ISO. Yeah, it's gonna be ISO. You'll be more than...
Starting point is 01:03:51 How about do a three-man game with you three over there? Like hopscotch, whatever. Just these two over here, you three, just run around, just talk little secrets and shit. Huddle up or something. But you don't want them to move around and being away. You don't want to be mad too. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Just back screens and up screens and stuff like that. You three just look. Hey, do this. Hey, hey. We go. Oh, hey.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Hey, listen. Look. I know they're not looking at us, but look. We look like we're doing something right now, right? Score! All right, we got to get back
Starting point is 01:04:22 on defense. Like, come on. That's basically what they do. They just sitting there like. They just talk. I know I ain't going to get the ball, right? Right? Score! All right, we got to get back on defense. Like, come on. That's basically what they did. They just sitting there like... They just talked. Like, I ain't know. I know I ain't going to get the ball, right? Like, come on. Like, you know Giannis ain't passing you the fucking ball. Right? Put your fucking hands down. Do something better. Touch the backboard.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Tap. Try to get an offensive rebound. Do something different. Besides sitting in the corner for 28 minutes scoring zero. Bobby Portis had 22 and 10. But Bobby Portis is the third option that scores. Okay. AJ Green had nine.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Oh, shit. I mean, he's a shooter. Gary Burt. Nine and four. All threes? Yeah. Gary Burt. He was getting lit.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Three for eight. So we talked a little bit about Chris Middleton. 20 minutes, zero points. 28 minutes, seven points. 28 minutes, seven points. Eight minutes, five points. I like him, whoever that is. Keep him in. What you taking him out for?
Starting point is 01:05:11 Who is that, Jackson Jr.? Andre Jackson. Oh, yeah. What you taking him out for? He's aggressive. Oh, yeah, I like Andre Jackson Jr. Eight minutes, five points. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Eight minutes, four points. Whoever, keep him in the game. For sure. No, he's nice. I like him. You're talking about Chris Middleton going donut. He's played in three games after missing. I didn't say Chris Middleton.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You did? No, I didn't. You said zero points, 20 minutes. I looked. You said zero points, 20 minutes. He didn't score yesterday? Oh, you're talking about Torrio Prince. I was one from the start.
Starting point is 01:05:44 There was a few. There was a few of them that played 20 minutes, scored zero. But listen, I understand, you know. 40 minutes combined. There's two of them. You got confused. 40 minutes combined between Torian Prince and Chris Middleton, zero points. No.
Starting point is 01:05:57 So Chris Middleton's played in three games. He only shot two balls. And then, like. Middleton played in three games after missing the first 21 games of the season while recovering from off-season surgery to both ankles. He said it's been a shaky recovery rehab process. During the game, they said he had to learn how to walk again. Ain't going to go out there and play?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Bilateral ankle surgery, so both the ankles were cooked. I learned how to walk and I'm going to play. So in those three games he's played, in those three games he's played, he's averaged a 7.6 assist those three games he's played, in those three games he's played, he's averaged 7.6 assists, three rebounds, 21 minutes per game.
Starting point is 01:06:28 So the Giannis Dame Middleton trio has only played 11 games together in the Doc Rivers era. But Mr. B, I'm going to ask you if you watch the game,
Starting point is 01:06:37 what's the buck ceiling if their big three can stay healthy? So you got to figure out what we're going to do. Like, offensively. I just learned how to walk. He had to relearn how to do. Like, offensively. I just learned how to walk.
Starting point is 01:06:46 He had to relearn how to do it. Two ankle surgeries. I'm going at him all the time. What? I'm going to be honest with you. So, run this man around. What? I would have never told the media that.
Starting point is 01:06:54 He learned how to walk. We about to test this, motherfucker. And is his ankle? Both ankles. Both ankles. And he what, 30 something? I mean, depending on how they are, so I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going
Starting point is 01:07:02 to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I're about to test this, motherfucker. And it's his ankle. Both ankles. Both ankles. And he, what, 37? I mean, depending on how they are to all-star, I mean, you know, you could be looking. I mean, hopefully, you know, he's playing well, but you could be looking to move Chris Middleton.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Man. Who want him? But that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, I don't know what. I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying you're going to have to do. So he's got a player option this summer. I mean, something's going to have to happen. He should have never said that.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But I don't know what NBA basketball players you have today. There's no motherfucking way. You could have said this in the early 2000s. You couldn't have said this and then you had to play Carmelo Allen Iverson or T-Mac and don't think you get on the court and you just about to play basketball.
Starting point is 01:07:54 What? You were about to be isolated until they sub your ass out. Or you foul out. It's going to be drop, run you around, Iverson going to do the Iverson cut back and motherf. It's going to be drop, run you around. Iverson going to do the Iverson cut back and motherfucking forward. He going to zipper up the whole.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Because there was no switching back then. You were not hiding. They would run the same play until you got subbed out the game. There was no, oh, you got a bad angle. I'm kind of sore in your hand. You got a wrist. They're going to hit your wrist the whole time. That shit happened to me. You playing Kobe and you just, you coming a bad angle. I'm kind of sore in your hand. You got a wrist? They're going to hit your wrist the whole time. That shit happened to me.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You playing Kobe and you just, you coming off the wrist? Oh, man, he grabbing that. He punching that. He slapping at that. You ain't effective. He elbowed T-Mac in the back. Yeah. Bad back.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Bad back. You going to catch a lot. Listen, you got a bad back. You catching a lot of back screens. That's going to be the scouting report. Right, right. Hey, hey. Hey, we're going to set a whole bunch of flares and back screens, back screens against T-Mag. That is the play. Get you the fuck out of there. We don't want you to have one of those games against us. So there's no way he can come in a game and play 20 minutes. No, we're going to run you around. You playing against Steve Nash, man. You're going through so many picking you
Starting point is 01:09:08 Steve Nash versus a Tony Parker go back and look at those games They're sitting there doing a whole bunch of picking when you played against Steve Nash He's just gonna do pick and rolls against him get him tired So he can't run off his pick red roll running back running back running back Make him hit these picks by the time the fourth quarter come he don't want to run up and down the court these these were Tactics like I mentioned Middleton's third game back. He decided to come back for that Celtics game this past Friday Which I was thought was a little interesting just obviously given everything going to have the next the Nets a couple days later
Starting point is 01:09:43 He played in those games brand you mentioned potentially trying to move him, but like you guys have said on this side, at this point, you know, he got to up that production and show that he can still do what he can still do. I mean, well, something has to happen. I mean, let's see if the Bucks don't win it this year. Win what? Championship.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Can I get a shot? No, wait, The NBA Cup Championship? Give him the Milwaukee Bucks one. The whiskey. I ain't even going to lie. I had a rough weekend. I popped that whiskey. We got to listen.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I don't think about you. Hey, shout out Jack Daniels. Hey, Chad. Y'all ought to take a shot too, man. Take a shot for just being delusional. Everybody take a shot for Mr. B. Just take a shot, man. Wait, no. Something's going to have to change, though.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know what it's going to be, but something's going to have to change after this year, though. Sure. Middleton has a player option. Or, I mean, well, I mean, they can't, well, you can't make a coach's change. You can't, as far as the general manager or whatever,
Starting point is 01:10:44 you can't make a change there. So you can't do that right now. I wouldn't base it off this Orlando game because, you know, there's no games where when your star is not playing, the other guys do get hyped now. It's not even an Orlando game. It's just, all right, do you see the Bucks winning it right now? The NBA Cup or the regular? I can see them. Like winning what?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Huh? They can surprise some people. Okay. Currently fifth in the East. Just off of being, just off of Giannis, he could take over. Just being Giannis, he could like, kind of like what Ja did to Boston. A great player could take over a series. That's Ja in one game. over a series, that could happen.
Starting point is 01:11:27 That's a fact. A seven-game series, though, against that same Boston squad. You got free time, high-scoring duo in the league right now, so you give them that. They're 13-11. I'm saying they could beat Orlando just off the bat. They're not going to beat Orlando when Orlando have the... Just like they couldn't
Starting point is 01:11:43 beat Hawks. They got molly like they couldn't beat Hawks. They got mollywhopped by the Hawks. I'm just saying, it could happen, though. We got to change our offense. They got mollywhopped by the Hawks in wherever they from. They could beat Indiana. They got their ass whooped there. They could beat Indiana.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Not in Atlanta. Not in Atlanta, dog. They got beat at home. Ass whooping. It's going to be hard to be old, though. But just because they young, I think if you get somebody young, just kabob-a-lated, you know, whatever, however I said it, but if I'm honest, doing that...
Starting point is 01:12:15 We knew what you were saying. All game, you can fuck a young nigga. I mean, young person, head up. Would you trade Chris Huddleton for Jimmy Butler? Yes. In a heartbeat. I mean, you might do that if you're the Bucs,
Starting point is 01:12:28 but if you're the Heat. But I know y'all, I know you want dessert, but God damn it, don't give me this. Talking about. I'm saying, if he's playing well,
Starting point is 01:12:36 if he's playing... No! Good job, Paolo. But wait, he got a player option or a team option? Player option. Oh, so he get to decide.
Starting point is 01:12:43 $34 million player option this summer. Nah, that ain't good for my... Looking like he'll probably opt into... This man said Jimmy Butler. I'm going to enter our team option. Player option. Oh, so he get to decide. $34 million player option this summer. Nah, that ain't good for my— Looking like he'll probably opt into— If people is going to— This man, Sid, should be put back. I don't know, in another trade, something.
Starting point is 01:12:57 You think— We got a first round pick. You think this is a Charlotte Bobcats in 07? You think people that dumb? They could get a first round pick. Yeah, people are dumb. Yeah. Middleton in the first round pick?
Starting point is 01:13:09 So this is how Gasol got the Lakers. You think someone is going to go through that again. Oh, Drake. Let me give you this and we get back a star. You could have said Kwame Brown. Hey, and that was only, that only happened because who was the general manager then? And I think the Bucks pick is going to Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:13:37 He's really a Laker. The only way you do a deal like that is you got to double agent on the other side. That's the only way something like that can you got a double agent on the other side. Yep. That's the only way something like that can happen. Like, when KG got to Boston, who gave him? Yep. Who gave KG to Boston?
Starting point is 01:13:56 Hall of Famer in Boston. Yep. McHale. Like, if you... That's true. Yeah, right. I'm saying, if you Indiana, right, if you... That's true. Yeah, right, I'm saying if you Indiana, right, if you Indiana and you Boston and you call Indiana what you got, what you need.
Starting point is 01:14:14 What you need. What you need, Boston. So you want Hallenburton and Siakam for Jaden Brown? No, no, no. I can give you Al Thornton. Al Thornton. Al Hornton. Al Hornton.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Al Hornton. You know what I'm saying? Al Hornton. Al Hornton. Or an Al Hornton second round pick. Al Shark is an Al Hornton. And Al Hornton second round pick. Al Horton. And Al Horton, second round pick. And front rows.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I can make it work. Front rows are good. Boom, boom. That's how those deals work, man. So, Gil, we asked the chat, does Gil need to give the Bucks more credit for turning the season around? 50-50 split. Get the fuck out of here. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:03 This is your chat for your show? I like the 50-50. Nobody. There's nobody in the chat. I like the 50-50 split. Get the fuck out of here. 50-50 split. No, no, no. This is your chat for your show? I like the 50-50. Nobody, there's nobody in the chat. I like the 50-50. That means two people, he just voted. I didn't. I see the pick is falling. I see the pick is falling up.
Starting point is 01:15:14 51% voted. 51% yeah, see? They didn't turn their season around. Yeah, we did. We're fifth in the East right now. 11-3. I've been starting out 2-8. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 We did turn our season around. We are turning around. East right now. 11-3. I've been starting out 2-8. Yeah. We did turn our season around. We are turning around. 13-7. You have to beat... No chemistry, no energy, no none of that to begin with. The putts go. And this is the moment where it all turns. That's when that shit all changed.
Starting point is 01:15:35 You have to beat teams that are on your level to say you're turning something around. You can't keep beating the bad teams and losing to decent teams. Okay, well, we're going to beat the Knicks. Okay, we're going to beat
Starting point is 01:15:48 the Knicks. Like, y'all, this celebration is against the Detroit Pistons that had the game won at the free throw line and the dude
Starting point is 01:15:56 fucked off the free throws. That's how you went to overtime. I'm promoting my liquor. That's why the energy was up. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, this game, they literally went to over
Starting point is 01:16:07 very good over time Because the dude missed both free throws when the game was over. Yeah, that's how Detroit pissed like they are not beating Any there's no one that says oh shit. We're playing the Bucks. Let's go to sleep tomorrow tonight She don't want it. They are yes. They are. Yes go to sleep tomorrow. Tonight. No one is. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. When Giannis come in here, yes, they are. That's just the power four.
Starting point is 01:16:31 That's everybody. That's the power four. All three of them. The four men and the one man is going. There's nobody who's guarding Terry Prince that says, I'm going to go to sleep tonight. I got a tough matchup You ain't doing that because I got a guard y'all today I don't have to guard y'all. Yes, you do
Starting point is 01:17:01 I'm gonna go you go you go run your ass over. I'm the small four, and I got print. I mean, 20 minutes of him shooting the ball. No, you're going to be on the switch. You know what it is. One time. Your ass should have went to bed last night. He's going to shoot the ball one time. What the fuck am I going to sleep for?
Starting point is 01:17:15 40. Then you got 40 on that ass. Then he's subbing in Middleton. 20 minutes, two times. That's 40 minutes of three possessions. No, you're not this switch He gonna come off that switch come set this go on. He'll get your ass under here wonder I'll go right by you right over here. Look get out of here man crazy You got three players on your team. All right, don't even they're not even a factor on all fairs. Cheers. Cheers
Starting point is 01:17:40 Cheers Here's to the books when they get reality kicks. I can't fire a doc. You crazy as a motherfucker. What? You crazy as shit. I don't give a fuck how stupid I look when I say. We went in the NBA cup.
Starting point is 01:17:55 We went in the NBA cup. When they say I'm fired. How about that? Hey, we fired Darvin Hamm and he won that motherfucker. So none of that shit means shit. Yes, it do. Y'all was fighting as a motherfucker. Now I don't mean that.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Darvin Hamm. Now the Cubs don't mean nothing. Now the Cubs don't. I don't want to win that again. shit. It used to do. Y'all was fighting as a motherfucker. Now, I don't mean that. Darvin Hamm. Now, the Cubs don't mean nothing. Now, the Cubs don't. I don't want to win that again. Darvin Hamm is like this. Now, the Cubs don't. Oh, now the Cubs don't mean nothing. Please, please.
Starting point is 01:18:12 Last time I won this motherfucker, I got fired. Nah. Nah. Now, the Cubs don't mean nothing. Ain't that some shit? Oh, no, don't win this shit no more. Ain't that some shit? Because now, now, now, now.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Be the only one that's going to be, hey, be the only one that's sitting there like, yeah, I don't trust this shit. I don't trust this shit. I'm going to Vegas. Brandon, the inaugural NBA Cup. I'm putting everything on the 34-0. The inaugural NBA Cup, uncharted waters, a much more difficult NBA Cup to win for that Lakers squad,
Starting point is 01:18:38 overcoming the odds, all obstacles. Now there's familiarity with the Cup, so not as important. I think that would be good for OKC to win. We winning the Cup. OKC or New York. Yeah, as important that'd be good for okay see the way now. We went in the car Okay, see you in New York. Yeah, I think that'll be good for them first of all y'all got New York They not really know you first of all they not be the heart. Okay. Do you got the hall and we gonna beat them? Oh, just like y'all beat him at home. We don't beat y'all by 50. We're gonna meet then we in Vegas This neutral we in Vegas hold it hold it for atmosphere. Then they could get y'all win being Vegas hold it for atmosphere
Starting point is 01:19:04 They got bigs that could guard young jumping people. The Bucks need to send me two tickets. No, I'm not in the way. They need to send me two tickets. They got young, they need this energy. They scored 104 at home. I will give you four without respect. They scored 104 at home.
Starting point is 01:19:22 We not at home. We in Vegas now. It's different out here, baby. It is. Y'all see Casino? Y'all might fuck around score 72. Giannis got 40. Dame got 32. The rest of
Starting point is 01:19:36 the three... Y'all don't want to play Atlanta. Y'all see The Godfather Part 2? Y'all know what time it is? Michael. Think about their role. That's what I think about the road there they beat a team that got two stars done like that's how y'all need to win that's fine we went in the cup don't matter we went in the cup if Wagner was there lost no matter Y'all love my 100. Shut a cut of water. I was like, damn. Care about that? I ain't going no land up. I'm over here like. Man, I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 01:20:07 They kind of good now. I look down. I was like, but Cheryl must have came back. Right. I was like, no, he's out. He's out. What about Wagner? I'm looking at.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Wagner there. Nope, he's out. Who the fuck are they playing against? Shut a cut of water. Oh, I forgot. They playing against Doc. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:23 They playing against Doc and All right. All right. They played against Doc and his subs. Doc going to make you eat your words this year. Hey, dog, that's crazy. You played a man who got eight. He got five points, and you subbed. How fast did you sub him out? This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:20:42 We in Vegas. It's neutral now, so. Right, shot a shot. I know what time it is. Shot a shot, man. Sup? Like, damn. He was probably one of the players he got to make the shot. Las Vegas?
Starting point is 01:20:50 You know. Yeah, we in Vegas. It's neutral. Like, we good. Some people can handle Vegas. Some cannot. Right. You feel like the Bucks can handle Vegas?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yeah, man. We going down there to win. Win it all. I don't know. NBA Cup championship. Yep. Man, you're not getting the ball. You can just do anything.
Starting point is 01:21:03 So, Terran Prince might be in Vegas doing some Man, we listen Hunger for what he doing out there. No, he know he getting the ball. He like man. I'm gonna just be in the corner anyway shit Man, have you started watching the magic at all? Still no, I'm definitely not gonna watch it now. They ain't got this far. They got let me know when they get they got a Good young. Let me know when they get back. They got a good young... Let me know when they get back. But when they get back, you're not going to watch. If I wasn't watching them when they had both their players,
Starting point is 01:21:30 because why would I watch when the G League part of the team is there? Not G League. They got a very young, solid support. Haas. He might get in trouble. What's so funny is I didn't even know he was that good because he's been just chilling. I know. I seen him in college. He was didn't even know he was that good because he's been just chilling. I know.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I seen him in college. He was nice. Yeah, he was. Right? So you go there and you ain't been showing. So the fact that everybody knows you actually can carry, you're valuing up. But that was my question. He got paid already, though.
Starting point is 01:22:00 He already got some bread signed. But how will playing without Ben Caron, Franz Wagner, help that Magic Young supporting cast build confidence? Obviously, you never want to lose your top two players, but these guys now being thrown into the fire, having to get these reps at this point in the season, will that benefit them come playoff time so they can make some noise, potentially make a playoff win? Who's their coach?
Starting point is 01:22:18 Are they the OKC? Jamal Moses. Listen, this is benefiting one person, and that person was a top five pick. And unfortunately, Suggs was a top five, right? Yeah. You got a guy who came in, and then they put people in front of him, and he's been struggling to really get his grounding. So them two players being out, and he can show that, hey, look, I am that nice.
Starting point is 01:22:44 I should be part of the big three. Like, we should be us three moving forward versus you two, and then we sitting here passing the ball. So I think them two being out kind of shows that he can contribute in a big way. You got young guys in there, black, who, you know, came off the bed. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:23:01 All right, all right, all right. Y'all just got here. Y'all just got here. Are they the OKC of the East? I think that's what I'm saying. I think Suggs had to see he can actually do it. There's comments that he was wondering if he can really, really play like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Right? Like, are you on my part of y'all team? And he questioned himself. So I think them two being out, he's getting a sense of, OK, yeah, I am him. I like that, right? Like, you know, I'm a part of y'all team, and he questioned himself, so I think them two being out, he's getting a sense of, okay, yeah, I am him. I like that comparison. Okay, the East. Currently third in the East right now,
Starting point is 01:23:33 17-10, so they got a little bit of runway to have a little slippage with both those guys out. I think Paolo will be coming back in the near future. Franz, obviously, be a few more. See, that's what I'm saying. That's the thing the Bucs can see. The Bucs have fifth. They have three. They don't want to see them, though.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Healthy. Healthy? Who? Who? The Bucs don't want to see Orlando healthy. The Bucs don't want to see no motherfucking body. Nobody. They can see Indiana.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I'm just saying, if I'd rather see somebody, I'd see Indiana. See whoever. I don't want to see... But let's give Jamal Moses some love. The only T they can see right here is goddamn Toronto. Let's give Jamal Moses... See whoever The only tea they can see ready is goddamn Toronto Let's give your mom Oh see the book you'll see the boo a little bit of love Hey, you see Detroit Pistons like that think about the team they may be dog then the only team they can see
Starting point is 01:24:18 Okay, we're gonna see I see no Nobody else gonna see we gonna see We move on Jamal Moseley a little bit of love so he's entering his fourth season with the magic first year They were 22 and 60 next season 34 48 last season 47 35 this year 17 10 It's still improvement Yeah, good at some point. We will get you to watch a magic game. I should he used to be my coach That that's my I feel like very very important. Everybody's like it. I mean even he's like Yeah, like even if he's not your coach is like oh, yeah, here's my Coaches very you'd be very unsupportive of Jamal Moseley right now good I'm just be honest. No more. No more
Starting point is 01:24:58 For a lot even grinding for a minute though. Yeah, like even grinding for a long time. Sorry, man I'm happy for you know, I didn't... I tried to tell him, like, you know, when he asked, like, you know, man, you been keeping up with the team? And, you know, I had to just... I mean, yeah. You said no. We get that part.
Starting point is 01:25:13 To be honest, Coach, to be honest, Coach, I didn't know you was over there. When did Orlando get like that, though? I used to... People used to watch Orlando. Dwight Howard. Max Peeney. Dwight.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Say that again. Victor. Say that again. Say them names again. Yeah, Peeney. Jack. Dwight Howard. T-Max, Peenie, Dwight. Say that again. Victor. Say that again. Say them names again. Yeah, Peenie. Jack. Dwight Howard. T-Max.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I had the T-Max jersey. I used to love wearing it. Victor had a cracker. Arguably the best jersey in the league. Victor Oladipo had a cracker up there. See what I mean? You hear what he said? I heard him.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Did you hear that shit? Nah, did you hear that shit? I heard him. So Victor, the dunk contest. Fuck that. Did you hear what he just said? So you hear that shit? I heard him. Nah, man. Fuck that. Did you hear what he just said? I heard him. So Victor Oladipo didn't have...
Starting point is 01:25:49 Nah. Alright, alright, bad. He said he had it cracking out there. He did have it cracking. But the last time we watched Orlando matches was when Dwight Howard went there, bro. Last time I watched it was... I'm just being honest. Last time I watched the Orlando game was when Victor was there.
Starting point is 01:26:01 I'm... Yeah, when you... I'm saying... I watched the game. Oh, you were on the team. No, no, no. When Victor was there. Were you on the team? Yeah, but I'm saying before that. When Victor first.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Oh, you had to watch. I know Dwight. Before that, though. I know Dwight Howard left in, what, 2011, 12? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was 12. I can tell you this right now. We don't know who the last All-Star was from that team.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Follow back here. Oh, see, see. So last year. Yeah See Enough Orlando, man Like right so since him that was the first also that Yeah, Tom our Orlando in there. Yeah, Orlando wins To Paulo Banchero.
Starting point is 01:26:45 They haven't had no... Wow. I was just being funny. But, damn. Now, Vucevic got there twice. Who the fuck is that? USC, baby. He said, who the fuck is that?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Chicago. Who we want? Who we want. Big man. He want him in LA. Voochie man. Big Vooch. All right, say a better name. I don't mean to do... No more slander.
Starting point is 01:27:13 He was hooping. He was hooping too. Okay, okay, okay. I got with that Voochie bitch. Okay. Okay, so... It should have been Victor, but Victor got hurt. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving and grooving. Mavs and Thunder. It's the white fault. Nobody watch. Yeah, the Victor got hurt. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving and grooving. Mavs and Thunder.
Starting point is 01:27:26 It's the white fault. Nobody watched. Yeah, the white. Mavs and Thunder met in OKC Tuesday in a rematch of last season's Western Conference semis. The Mavs were riding a seven-game winning streak while the Thunder were holding down the top spot in the West. And in a showdown featuring two of the top young guards in the league, SGA put on a show for the home crowd to help OKC punch their ticket to Vegas for the NBA Cup Final Four. So the Thunder starting five all scored in double figures.
Starting point is 01:27:53 SGA had a dominant performance, 39 points, eight rebounds, five assists, and three steals on 15 for 23 shooting. Jalen Williams added 18.7 rebounds, four dimes. And Isaiah Hartenstein had 10 points and 13 rebounds. The Thunder held Luka to just two points through the first three quarters, but Luka caught fire in the fourth, finishing the game with 16 points, 11 rebounds, five assists, four steals, but he also had six turnovers and shot five for 15 from the field. They had that man in the torture chamber.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Shout-out Lou Dort, shout-out Cason Wallace. You think we're going to have it like this day in LA? So, Clayton Thompson and Najee Marshall were both the Mavs' leading scorers that man in the torture chamber. Shout-out Lou Dort, shout-out Kaysen Wallace. So, Clayton Thompson and Najee Marshall were both the Mavs' leading scorers in the game with 19 points. Play was 5 for 10 from deep. Marshall's big off the bench, going 7 for 11 from the field. Kyrie has 17 and 5 dimes on 7 for 14 shooting. He was 3 for 5 from long range. So, Luke and Kyrie's 33 combined points
Starting point is 01:28:42 was the lowest during a regular season game they've played together as teammates, according to ESPN Research. The Mavs were also missing P.J. Washington, who was very important for them postseason last year and also in a previous game against Thunder this year. They won. Thunder won four straight games, have the top-ranked defense in the league, forcing the most turnovers while also giving up the least turnovers so far this season. They also have the seventh rated offense in the league and best net rating in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association. We'll have Chet. Does any team in the West want Smoke with the Thunder? And they do not have Chet Holmgren.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Still recovering from injury. Very deep roster. We've talked about their age. Extremely young, but they're getting more mature. Alex Caruso, a huge addition on the defensive side of the ball. Hustle player. Gave him up, too. Who we give up Caruso for? They didn't want to give that man his bread. D'Lo. Josh Gale?
Starting point is 01:29:39 Josh? Oh, we're talking about the Lakers. Caruso was, you know, instrumental. They're number one right now in the West? Number one in the West, top-ranked defense in the league, seventh-ranked offense, best net rating. They got a squad, bro. I like it, man.
Starting point is 01:29:57 I ain't gonna lie. They got a squad. Good. Do you still feel like this Thunder squad is too young? If they get it, if they win a champ... They got a squad. So if they win a championship, they better than that old, old KC team?
Starting point is 01:30:08 Hell yeah. Not the names, though. Better? Team-wise. It was a lot of one-on-one with them, but team-wise, I'm talking about overall.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Oh, no. I don't know. This team is nice, bro. This team is really... That young OKC team is nice, too. No, no, for sure. I'm just... If they get to the finals... They got everything that OK... That team had, too.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yeah, they don't have Kevin Durant, though. And room to grow. But they got Chet. SGA. SGA is 16. He ain't even playing right now. But he will be playing. You act like he out forever.
Starting point is 01:30:51 And you think that's... I think top to bottom, there's an argument that can't be made. I'm just... Top to bottom, this team is better. On this current OKC. Team-wise, this team is better. And they all rock with each other. I'm putting Dirk on everybody.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Dirk could guard the whole team. It's a little random. Except for Losha. Same. Except for Losha. They got Dirk and Caruso. Well, I mean, they at least got to get to the finals. That's right.
Starting point is 01:31:20 At least. And to that, you can't say it. You can't compare it. They at least got to get to the finals, and then we... All right. If Shea's not having a bad... I mean, a good game,
Starting point is 01:31:29 is Jalen... Can he carry? I don't think... I won't say carry, but they got enough of a supporting cast that they can all uplift each other. If he misses games. Like, the benefit of them is
Starting point is 01:31:41 their star player plays. Okay. Like, the thing about them teams, like, if you look at their, they're playing 81, 82, 80, 79 games as a unit. Okay. Right? So that's something that we're not, you know, people don't factor in, that their best players is playing.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And enjoy playing, too. Really out there playing. Really enjoy playing with each other, family. Obviously, they do the post-game interviews together. Same situation last night with the TNT interviews, about 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 dudes. I mean, I like the group. I mean, you know...
Starting point is 01:32:17 That team had a squad. You know, they can get to the finals, but if they're playing against, you know, Boston, just the experience of Boston is just you know I don't think that seems better than a KD team who as I think that when you think about it like you though that she was Different that's it was different Drop that team in this league. I think they win three championships Like like like I said Boston just has to expand the same type of guys but more experience
Starting point is 01:32:41 So, you know, okay see then will have to play perfect basketball the whole time. Can they beat Denver? Can they beat Denver? In the seven games? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Healthy? Healthy. I think so. When you play, I mean,
Starting point is 01:32:59 it's, you know, it's still Jokic. Like, what is Jokic's bad game? That's what I'm saying. What is Jokic's bad game? That's what I'm saying. What is Shea's bad game? I know, but Jokic and Jamal Murray? No, true, true. What is Shea's bad game? But Shea's bad game is like a 25-5-5.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Jokic is still 20-10-12. It's just Jokic, though. Jamal Murray? Man, I ain't rolling this year. In the playoff, huh? It's over Jokic, though. Jamal Murray? Man. I ain't rolling this year. In the playoff, huh? It's over? I ain't rolling this year.
Starting point is 01:33:32 I mean, obviously, Mavs made the final last year. Like, I trust OKC as a unit. They've shown that as a unit, they can figure out how to win no matter how they're playing, and I trust Jokic by himself. Yeah, he's... Like, J You know your boardin, right? Those are the two be the USA team by so who yeah That's what I'm saying. I trust you. I trust you. Yo kids. Okay, right in the seven game series. I'm like, okay Yo kids is guaranteed. He's gonna put about 45 total points, rebounds, and assists together. I have a chance there.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I'm not worrying about that shit Braun or AD did. I'm not worrying. He ain't going to have no 9, 4, and 2 type of game. He do one of those. You do one of those. If I see a line that Jokic had 5, 3, and 3, and he played 40 minutes, I'm like, hey, man, call the FBI. Somebody got one of his family members on ransom
Starting point is 01:34:28 because there's no motherfucking way. Never seen it. There's no way in hell he puts up those numbers unless somebody manipulated him on a whole other level. I see mad at the coach. Hit the FBI. Shit. That ain't happening.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Yeah. That's how consistent he is. So, Gil, back to my point, do you feel like this OKC Thunder squad is still too young? Too young. Or with that experience and maturity from that season? They're not old enough to beat Boston. They're off-season additions, though.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Hardenstein coming through. Caruso got championship experience. Yeah. It's going to be tough. I mean, because you got Jalen Brown and Jalen Mayfield. Youstein coming through. Caruso got championship experience. It's going to be tough because you got Jalen Brown. I'm going to disrespect the concept of you saying NBA championship experience.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Alex Caruso. Instrumental in that 2020 NBA bubble championship. The hardest championship in NBA history. Black Lives Matter on the back of the bubble. In the bubble. Black Lives Matter on the back of the jersey? He did help.
Starting point is 01:35:28 Ain't no fans out there in the bubble. This is so disrespectful on some people. Come on, man. Everybody and they mama was doing this. He had Black Lives Matter on the back of the jersey. I don't mean to be disrespectful, my king. My king. My king. My king is crazy. But this is like when he played for Denver and then someone would have said,
Starting point is 01:35:48 yeah, they just got Nick Young with NBA championship experience. Like, it just sounds stupid. We know he never scored over 10 points. The whole... He didn't have no experience. You crazy as hell. He didn't have no experience
Starting point is 01:36:01 to translate that to them. You crazy as hell. He said his ass just like I'm sitting my black ass right here. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. I didn't have no experience to translate that to them. He said his ass just like I'm sitting my black ass right here. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Championship is a thing. That's fucking crazy. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Game seven. Game seven. Game seven. You had four points. That is not experience that you can translate to help you win a team. You better know when to hit when you got to hit your shots. Gil, Kruisum had an all-defensive team last year. Last year? You talk about championship experience.
Starting point is 01:36:30 The whole team in Boston have championship experience. You don't experience that. You never experience that. That's the difference. Experience. You never experience that. I would like to hear from everybody. When the fuck did you want to tell them? When I came in the arena, shit was different.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Media was everywhere. You watching me, talking about me. I come to this motherfucker looking fly. That motherfucker is crazy. Point proven. Everywhere I go, everybody, hey, y'all better win. Y'all going to beat LeBron. That's the experience.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Going to the court, showing up to practice and shit. This shit, you got to practice this hard, because the'all going to beat LeBron. Right? That's the experience. Showing up to practice and shit. This shit, you got to practice this high because the media going to be out there for five hours. So, man, you got to talk about LeBron and shit. Yeah, that type of shit. Nick, you got to guard J.R. Smith shit. Yeah, all that shit. That's exactly.
Starting point is 01:37:19 You wouldn't know because you was at home watching. You proved my point. You proved my point. All his experience he can tell you is how to get ready for the game Look at the game take your pick Oh, I can't tell you about a mother game when it when we was game in a water game seven Where we is down by fucking foe. Oh, what'd you do? What'd you do? Put me on my fucking chain? Oh, they said, come on, guys. Come on, guys, we need this. When it was a three on two,
Starting point is 01:37:47 you don't supposed to take that three, but I did, because you got to hit it. Right. If you take it, you got to make it. You take it, you got to make it, or your ass coming out. So, Nick, as an NBA champion... Yeah, let me tell you....with that experience, the ring, the hard word to prove it.
Starting point is 01:38:01 It's a fact. Shit, I was happy we won the Western Conference final. They said, nah, don't get happy about that. We got to win the whole thing. Brother, I... That's the type of experience shit I'm talking about. I'm sorry, man. Y'all do too much for these reasons. I'm up here like, man, I...
Starting point is 01:38:16 I mean, he went through four playoffs. Yeah, we got to go celebrate. He said, nah, we don't celebrate right now. We celebrate when it's over. So you had to learn that... Yeah, I had to learn that shit, yeah. ...by becoming an NBA champion. Okay. Okay. I was happy we won the game seven. I said, let's go to the club.
Starting point is 01:38:30 So a similar experience to what Alex Caruso had... Let's go to the club. I never been. I'm sure. It's the experience you got to learn, motherfucker. You wouldn't know that. Was Curry there? Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Curry was at the club. He told me we don't go. We don't go out there. We don't go to the club. Thank you. I wasn't a champion then. Of course you wasn't okay I don't want to I'm sorry I'm sorry it's a job but I'm tired of y'all just putting the ring on everybody's legacy and you got okay okay I don't want to learn shit just cuz you I don't want to learn shit just because you I don't want to learn shit. Okay about being a champion Unless it's coming from the motherfuckers who carried The ring. Mm. So you won't listen to Robert. No, I don't want to listen to a motherfucker who
Starting point is 01:39:20 Was big you think Bob he hit a big shot here and there. He was not... The biggest shot. He was not carry the team, Rob. Carry the team, Rob. The biggest shot. I don't give a fuck. Who did he get the ball from?
Starting point is 01:39:34 Off of mid-side. I want to learn the experience from carry the team, Kobe. Carry the team, Shaquille O'Neal. Carry the team, H Carry the team Shaquille O'Neal. Carry the team Hakeem. Right? I don't want to hear from a motherfucker called Big One Shot. You had two points. You had two points. You had four points.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I don't want to hear what you're saying. Hey man, I don't want to hear from a nigga that don't win. I'm sorry. All you do is score. I'm sorry. I don't want to hear that shit. I don't want to hear it. I don't score. Don't play defense. I don't want to hear it. I don't. No. I don't want to hear about your work ethic. You hit one shot.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Your work ethic is insane. This motherfucker took 25 shots a game. I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear about your one shot experience. But my one shot. I don't want to. I'm sorry. I don't want to hear about your one shot experience. I am sorry.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I don't. It don't matter. I do not. Whenever I shot it at. I do not respect you coming in a game for one, two minutes. Whenever I shot it at. Fuck you. I'm sorry. I don't care. It don't matter. I do not. Wherever I shot at that. I do not respect you coming in the game for one, two minutes. Wherever I shot at that. Fuck you. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:40:29 Fuck you and your work ethic. Wherever I shot at that, it was in the championship. I'm sorry. You was watching. We here. It's reality. It's reality. That was me.
Starting point is 01:40:37 If you're watching, don't shoot. I'm sorry. Who's doing their job? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It takes five. It takes five. It does take five. No, it don't take five. It sorry. I'm sorry. It takes five. It takes five. It does take five.
Starting point is 01:40:46 No, it don't take five. It do. I hear you. You don't talk about the bucks. It takes five. You just said two people can't play. That is the warrior's motto. You can use that shit on your resume,
Starting point is 01:40:59 but at the end of the day, there's a guy on the team that did 99% of the lifting. You do not get the same fucking fastball. Oh, but Iguodala won the finals MVP. Iguodala won the finals MVP. And he didn't fucking score. And that's more credit. And I thought you had a seven point.
Starting point is 01:41:16 But that's more credit. He did credit. He did something. No, it takes five. He did something. It takes five. He did something. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:41:24 He did something. All right, question. It takes five. All right, question. He played 30 minutes a game. He did something. He did something. He did something. He played 30 minutes a game. He did something. He did something. He did something. He added more points to Brown, but what'd he do? He did something. They did something.
Starting point is 01:41:38 So Caruso's experience in the championship does not overtake fucking five stars? Like 40 minutes of championship basketball you learn how you was a bitch you was a six You learn to be a champ. No you didn't matter. So does Jason Terry get credit? Yes, okay Yes, he gets credit. Okay. He was a bat. He was a player in the championship. So these are Stevenson. Okay credit Yeah, she does. He said yeah, he average fucking three player in the championship. So, DeSean Stevenson don't get credit? Yes. Yes, he does. He said yes. He averaged fucking three points. In the finals.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Yes. Did he? But you're... What are you talking about? I'm talking about... Okay. He's just mad at me because I'm a champion. Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Let's do it like this. Okay. Caruso's experience in the playoffs or in the championship. Hold on. Caruso's, what he did in the championship versus Boston. Who? What does this experience look like? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:42:40 What does this experience? You said he gives him championship experience. He's won a championship. Going against who? My seventh man experience versus star players who won championships? One has a finals MVP. One has a what's-her-name MVP. And you want to put that experience against a seventh option? What the fuck are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:43:06 Russo won the hardest championship in history. I don't give a fuck what. No, he was part of it. It doesn't matter. LeBron James. It doesn't matter. LeBron James. He's a part of it.
Starting point is 01:43:14 A.D., right? It doesn't matter. He's a part of it. So how many people on the Cleveland team are you saying when LeBron was going with Cleveland against? Black Lives Matter on the back of the jersey. So LeBron, Kyrie, would you say K-Love? At least the starting five. The starting five? Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:30 So you can't be a, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, Terry is the sixth man. But how many minutes did him and, um, um, uh, Barrera play? A lot, a lot. They played minutes. They played big minutes. Who the fuck are you talking about? Jason Terry. But again say Barrera? He's Barrera's other champion? They played minutes. They played big minutes. The impact of the game. Who the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:43:47 Jason Terry. But again, Barrera going on a team, and you're using Barrera on a team as championship experience to help them get ready for fucking this team is crazy. Yes. No, it's not crazy. Because I got Gilbert Arenas that never beat me, I got Caruso that being, I'm going to go with the motherfucker that being instead of a nigga that just wants to shoot.
Starting point is 01:44:09 No, we're talking about Boston. We're talking about Boston. That's the same thing. No, it's not the same. They won a championship last year. They're talking about the experience. The experience is going to be against Boston. If I'm picking a player,
Starting point is 01:44:26 if he's got his championship experience, and the person that don't, Boston has the experience. We're talking about Caruso experience versus Zim. What is he going to tell you? What is he going to tell you? Hey, where did you go to sleep? It's a different life.
Starting point is 01:44:44 It's different. When you get to that motherfucker, it's different his and I don't know my first round exit motherfucker It's fucking everybody watch what time okay? How about this? It's there for you with this when you won your championship What was your routine? Versus your routine during the regular season it changes what no your routine it's a what did it change to it? Say, huh? What did it change to sir It changed. Huh? What did it change to, sir? You want to know? When did you get to the gym?
Starting point is 01:45:07 Same time? No, no, no, no, no, no. When did you get to the gym? No, no, no, no, no, no. Same time? No, no, no, no, no, no. What did you do? It's different.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Same shit? You never get talked about going to the club. You're talking because you don't know. What did you do? It's different. Your practice schedule is different. What did you do? What?
Starting point is 01:45:20 Not your team. My practice schedule is different. Not your team. Obviously, my shit changed. What did you do personally? Did I practice with the Warriors different. Not your team. Obviously, my shit changed. What did you do personally? Did I practice with the Warriors? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:28 We practiced. Oh, for the championship? Yeah, we practiced. We practiced. It changed because we had to practice at this time because the game was at this time. NBA champion, yeah. And the media and everybody's schedule at this time. And when you get to the arena, we practiced more at the arena this time because we had to go over certain shit.
Starting point is 01:45:47 We wanted to go over certain plays with LeBron and what we'll call it. Some people forgot. I can tell you firsthand, first day of practice, it wasn't at the regular practice facility. Motherfucker showed up late. Got chewed out. Did you? Huh?
Starting point is 01:46:03 You? Huh? Yeah, I was the only one on the team. You showed up late, huh? I went to the wrong arena. Wrong arena. There you go. I went to the regular practice arena.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Right, right. But Nick, that was you preparing to do it. And they let me fight. They said, oh, he didn't know. They said, oh, oh, he didn't know. He didn't know. So the other fucking 14. But the other person that showed.
Starting point is 01:46:22 I'm going to tell the story. Tell the story. It was another person that showed up late that was on the team last year that knew he got chewed the fuck out. They gave me a pass because I didn't know. So a fellow NBA champion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:33 Okay. A current NBA champion. No, no. A future NBA champion. So the other guy who showed up late, was he a champion already? Yes. He was on the team already.
Starting point is 01:46:41 We both showed up late. I said I went to the wrong arena. I thought it was at the other place. But we practiced at the gym at the real arena instead of practice facility on for the championship Because the it's a bigger broader arena for media to come through It's not just a regular fucking local news. It's the world cuz everybody watching you Okay, so they need a bigger environment and And it's different times because, you know, you got slots and shit you got to do. Some shit you wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Let me talk. Keep going. It's different. It's different. Keep going. It ain't your first round tap on the chest exit by LeBron. OK? It ain't that type of shit, OK?
Starting point is 01:47:18 So you learn shit. All right, anything you want to ask me about the final, I'll let you know, man. Let me know. I'm here all week, baby. So that was it? No. I told you a little something. What else you want to ask me about the final, I'll let you know, man. Let me know. I'm here all week, baby. So that was it? No, I told you a little something. What else you need to know?
Starting point is 01:47:32 I asked you what did you personally do to adjust for the championship, because you already said you, as a human being, showed up late. I did. I know for sure. I did my routine at the practice facility. I thought we was practicing there. I know for sure Steph didn't show up late.
Starting point is 01:47:48 KD didn't show up late. Klay didn't show up late. See, I don't want to learn. What I'm saying is about experience. I don't give a fuck about... But that's the experience. I don't give a fuck about his experience. It's the experience.
Starting point is 01:47:59 I want to know what Klay, Curry, and KD did. How do you know? What if I tell you one of them was late? Do we know what's in there? I could ask Nick. He don't know he was late, so he don't know. He don't know. How you know one of them wasn't with me? He do not
Starting point is 01:48:14 know if one was there. But look, for a person that... Did I say somebody else was late with me? No, what time was you there? Did I say somebody else was late with me? What time was you there? For a motherfucker that never made out the first round of 12th and 13th. I want to ask you a question. What time was practice? Listen, I said somebody else was late with me. What time was you there? For a motherfucker that never ran out the first round of talk to strangers. I want to ask you a question. What time was practice?
Starting point is 01:48:27 Listen. I said somebody else was late with me and they chewed them out. Did they do that? Was that somebody an integral part of that crew? Was that somebody going on? I know what Gilson is saying. What time was practice? I know what Gilson is saying.
Starting point is 01:48:37 What time was practice? This practice you was late at? What time was it? I was late. I was at the other room. Okay, at the other room. What time was the practice that you had? I was at the other room with Okay, at the other arena. What time was the practice that you had? I was at the other arena with the other person.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Okay, but what time was the team practice at this new arena? We was training together. What time was this new practice? We was training together. What time was this new practice at? We've been doing the same routine all year. What was the time of this new practice? But the new practice was at 12.
Starting point is 01:48:59 What time was this in the 12? So when you ask him, does he know what time the other player, how the fuck would he know if he showed up at 12.05? How would he know if somebody was there at 9 a.m., 7 a.m.? I was there. You think he asked? Yeah, we was there shooting around, doing our normal routine, but they called and said it's not there.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Okay. It's at the other end. So we drove over. And that's when they was like, you should know better and all that shit. You've been there. Wait, you and the coach? No, me and a player. I don't want to put the player out there that was there.
Starting point is 01:49:33 But it was a major part of the five. And we was working out. Tall player, short player? Shooter. Light-skinned? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But don't know. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Okay. But he was a part. Okay. You know, doing our little one-two, getting our shit in. They called us. Bunch of bench niggas. Did his dad play in the NBA as well? Bunch of bench players.
Starting point is 01:49:54 You feel? Bunch of bench motherfuckers out here just... He started. He started. Did his dad play in the NBA as well? No. He started. No. No. Okay. Light skin started. No. I know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:50:09 He was a light skin starter. Tom. Light skin starter. Light skin starter, but it wasn't a three-eye name. Does he like boating? No. Not him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:50:17 He's been there before. He's working out. He's been there before. Okay. What the fuck are we talking about? He's an avid boater. They've been there before. He probably missed them. But God, shit, I don't know. He's over there before. Okay. What the fuck are we talking about? He's an avid voter. They been there before. He probably missed them.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Forgot. Shit, I don't know. He go there all the time. They make it to the finals all the time. Been there five years in a row. It's like walking a dog. He's just like walking a dog. He just forgot.
Starting point is 01:50:37 There it is. So he's working out. Got the phone call. Oh, y'all at the wrong arena. Gave me a pass. So when I made that point, I'm just saying they have a player now with championship experience that can help tell them. And FJ has a question, hey, how did LeBron and AD prepare to win the hardest championship
Starting point is 01:50:53 in NBA history? Caruso, who was at practice on time. How the fuck do they, how the fuck does he know how someone else prepared? How does he know how someone else prepared? Because he was there with them. LeBron James gets to the gym at 3 o'clock. Game starts at 7.30. The game starts at 7.30.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I don't give a fuck who you ask how LeBron prepares. They don't know. Because he got there at 3, they got there at 5. So there's hours that they don't know what the fuck he's doing. You do not know how to. You got to have a clue. If you did know how someone prepared and you're not mimicking it, something's wrong with you. No. So when someone says, hey, how did Kobe prepare?
Starting point is 01:51:39 They don't actually know. They only know what he shows them. They don't know about 3 a.m. to 5 a.m. They don't know about 5 a.m. to 7 a.m. They don't know about 5 a.m. to 7 a.m. They know when they get to the gym and whatever he's doing. No, no, no, no. Worked out with Kobe in the summertime.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Mm. Mm. Yeah, he get to the... Another NBA champion. Yes, motherfucker, you get there at 4 a.m., he's sitting in the goddamn parking lot with his shades on and the phone waiting for everybody to go in. Mm.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Yeah. Shades on and there's not even no light outside. I heard that. That's fine. And walk in, and make sure everybody's ready to go. Go through the same routine. Same routine. 30 times, and do a play on top of that play. Do the fucking backup move to that move 30 times.
Starting point is 01:52:21 You go over the same shit. About precise. But precise. Too precise. You don't really talk. Because we were talking about the drilling sheets. And we worry about that shit later. We didn't get to practice. So you learn all kinds of shit.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Some shit you might not know. When I worked out with you, we didn't really do too much. You cried. You fucking cried. Nick, did you cry? Tears of joy or tears of... I'm fucking going to work out what the fuck you talking about.
Starting point is 01:52:52 I'm sorry, man. I'll put you in that category. I'll put you in that category. Yeah, yeah. It was harder than a motherfucker. But you don't want me to tell people that experience? Oh, I can't share
Starting point is 01:53:02 that experience, though, huh? That's good experience. You want me to share that experience of working out with you, huh? Oh, that's though, huh? That's good experience Well, we share this premiums are working out with you, huh? Okay, but the problem is that's just the workout I'm doing with you Not the workout not the workouts that I'm home by myself you was telling us you told us I get in here You got a good way of this. You're in the motherfucker Jim. Just sit in there act like you in there I get some sit in there act like you in there I give you some things to do but what I'm but like the concept of what people say if if you're actually Watching
Starting point is 01:53:35 Michael Jordan really go through What makes him great? then the question becomes Why didn't you become great if he's showing you the actual blueprint? If you are watching all of Kobe's five workouts per day, then you should, if you get two of them, you should be decent. Yeah, but you're not going to be, you could do ten workouts a day, you're not going to
Starting point is 01:54:02 beat Kobe. You could do 10 workouts a day. You're not going to be Kobe. But if you're watching the person, you're only watching a 5%, 10% of what he's doing. You can never be. Like, if you're watching Mayweather train, like, no, he's showing you what he wants you to see. He's not showing you what he does. Remember, we was there with Curry. When Curry said he's going to work out, do this, and then everybody has to leave, and then his real workout starts.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Yeah. We don't get to fucking see that. Curry's not going to tell the whole team to fucking leave. What are you talking about? We all, this is a team thing. No, we're saying when he was working out in the summer, getting ready. He told us all to leave.
Starting point is 01:54:43 No, when we're talking about in the summer He's working out and then when everybody left the gym all every soul he went through his real workout. That was two hours We don't know what that looks like We only know what he showed us. Yeah, y'all don't Y'all don't you don't either goddamn as. You don't either, goddammit. That's y'all. Because you was probably asleep at the club. Wow. I'm just saying. You're putting that shit on me, man.
Starting point is 01:55:08 I'm putting it on you guys. You're putting that shit on me. You're kind of putting me in a little wheel and shit. I'm just saying. Before we move on. While we're in the Western End, you had to shoot a club again, chicken wings, man. Before we move on, I got some breaking news to report. What? You can download the Underdog app and use promo code GILM to get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em if you act right.
Starting point is 01:55:27 That was good. Now, thank you, Brendan. I appreciate it. All right, so let's talk about the situation going on in Houston. Rockets have been one of the surprise teams in the West this season, jumping out to a 16-8 record, which is tied for third in the conference. One of the main reasons for the success is emerging center Alperin Shangun, who's putting up borderline all-star numbers of 19 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists,
Starting point is 01:55:47 and 47% shooting from the field. He averages one block and one steal per game as well. But Rockets head coach Ime Adoka recently gave Shangun a piece of advice to help elevate his game. Let's take a listen. There's continuing to be a physical presence on both sides, but really my thing is to concentrate
Starting point is 01:56:04 on the things you can control which is you know looking to score and not looking to get fouled as much playing through contact and not looking for a call or letting missed shots affect you on the other end so they went after him tonight and anytime he had it in the post and he found guys that was the reason we had those wide open looks and so some nights it's going to be a scoring thing some nights it's going to be facilitating and he has to be able to do both but my biggest thing with him is I say to him get the European out of your game and play through stuff stop crying so get the European out of your game play through stuff stop crying so not to be technical but Shangoon was born in
Starting point is 01:56:39 Turkey which is a transcontinental country with parts in Europe and Asia he's from Girsun which is on the Asia side, but he did play pro for Besiktas in Istanbul before coming to the league, and Istanbul is Turkey's largest city. Parts of that city are in Europe, parts are in Asia, so Edoka's point still remains. But do you agree with Edoka's advice for Shangun
Starting point is 01:56:58 to get that European out your game and basically stop being a bitch? What's up with him with that? If he calls Bron a bitch, he's just becoming a fucking bitch. But ain't you ever been in basketball more physical? Not really. Not really. Not really.
Starting point is 01:57:12 I mean, in a sense it is. I mean... No, if you think about the players that play, they're usually... They're trying to get fouls. Right? Think about how Jokic actually plays. I mean, Giannis is probably the one who plays too physical. But Gasol, they're trying to get fouls.
Starting point is 01:57:35 I mean, for the most part, they cry no different than everybody else. I mean, I'm about to say that. We just look at our players and say, you cry the most, but they do the same. They be over there crying. It's the same. But when you think about,
Starting point is 01:57:49 like, Luka, obviously, who's developed a reputation for constantly bitching about calls and... I imagine it over there. Seen that in the finals last year with Luka. Imagine it over there.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Bitch, come on. He's just talking his own language. Yeah, and you can't... Could you cry for fouls when you were playing in Italy or did you have to learn how to do it own language. Yeah, and you can't, could you cry for fouls when you were playing in Italy, or did you have to learn how to do it in Italian? Yeah, in Italian.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Like, Hey, speak that shit again. Learned a little bit in our day. But do you guys find, Gil, obviously, the crying to the officials, does that actually ever really benefit you at all, or does that have the opposite effect? And now they're not going to call.
Starting point is 01:58:26 It's the opposite. You become annoying. Yeah. And then they want to just turn you off. So if you're thinking about, if you're calling for every foul, then obviously they're not going to give it to you. Right?
Starting point is 01:58:39 You got to pick and choose, know who to talk to, you know, pay through majority of the stuff because they're not going to change. It's not like you were like, oh, you got fouled. Hold on, y'all. Stop. Stop. Hey, he got fouled. No, bring it back. Bring it back.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Call him. This ain't the pickup. Hey, no, no, no, bring it back, bring it back, bring it back. Foul, right? That doesn't happen. So, you know, for the most part, there's really nothing you can do besides get on their nerves. And you don't want to do it because rest remember things. You see how petty they are. Petty, haters, a lot of words come to mind.
Starting point is 01:59:09 We think about officials across the board, all levels of basketball. Damn. Even for like, like say if you was like, like a Kobe, you think they would care if he bitched too much or not? Yes. You gonna get that call. Kobe, get that call. He getting he bitched too much or not? Yes. He going to get that call. Kobe, get that call.
Starting point is 01:59:26 He getting that call. Or Jordan, right? Yeah, he going to get that call. You saw the ref said, my bad, Mike. You thought it was a foul? My bad, Mike. All right, my bad, Mike. I'm sorry, sir.
Starting point is 01:59:34 My bad, Mike. That's sick. I thought it was a foul. You didn't think so? All right, my bad, Mike. I believe you. I believe you, Mike. I believe you.
Starting point is 01:59:43 Like, damn. I believe you, though. Damn. You think that advice makes sense? Just concentrate on the game. I believe you. I believe you Mike. I believe you like You think that advice makes sense just concentrate on the game stop yeah, yeah, but as a player how hard is it to control? Those emotions I mean, but not just that it's like you have to control it because like you're leaving your teammates on Island that's a four on five every time you're not not getting back on defense, you're complaining, and you're giving up easy buckets. Hey, hold on. I don't think...
Starting point is 02:00:08 Yeah, that's tough. You said Sangoon is the reason they're winning? He's playing at a near all-star level. I'd say he's the primary reason. One of the reasons.
Starting point is 02:00:19 I don't know. I can't agree with that one. You can't agree that he's contributed to the success of the Houston Rockets this season? Not how you said it. Because, you know, last year was, you know, 21 and something, 18.
Starting point is 02:00:31 Like, all of their numbers is down. Every single player's numbers is down from last year. They play more as a team. They're playing more as a team. The wins are up, yeah. So he's a contributing factor to that. Sacrificing his numbers to create a narrative to help for the good of the team. Like, I'm looking through, like, they're winning, but whose production is actually the reason that they're winning?
Starting point is 02:00:52 Every single person's numbers is down, but they're turning it into wins. That's good. So you attribute that to coaching? Obviously, Adoka, we saw what he did with Boston. Coaching, team chemistry. You know what? Chemistry? Man, yeah,
Starting point is 02:01:08 only Easton's numbers is up. It's coaching. Calling the right plays away from that bad basketball at the beginning. Like when, you know, you're losing it at the end,
Starting point is 02:01:21 they're probably controlling the game a lot better in the fourth. But as a unit, they look like no different than like the OKC. They're playing as a team. And before we move on, the chat is harassing me. I just had to mention that we had a poll. They got seven guys in double digits. Oh, shit. So we had a poll. We asked the chat, who do they agree with in that previous argument you guys had about the reports of championship experience.
Starting point is 02:01:49 About you can learn championship experience from... Nick Young was the winner. I think he got about 60% of the vote. Just wanted to point that out. Who you can learn championship experience from? We asked the chat who do you agree with, and we gave them two options. From learning from experience. Swaggy Zarina or Gil Zarina.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Give me a hug. Bring it in. Learning from from take this L. Give me give me a hug We know how they spirit I'm just sorry I'm up a lot of fucking losers in this world I'm not heard of, like... Don't cry in the car. Stop. That's why they don't look. I know, I can see why motherfuckers is losers, dog. Like y'all really dig...
Starting point is 02:02:32 Stop. Y'all really dig, like... Caruso the hell? This nigga didn't change his sleep habits, man. He didn't come to the gym no different, man. Life was regular for this guy. He just came in. No, no, no. He didn't have to go on no diet to get ready to play 30, 47 minutes.
Starting point is 02:02:51 He's like, he don't have the same. He don't have, like. He was stuck in Disney prison like the rest of them. What I'm saying is. It don't matter. Tatum and Brown, how they prepared will be very different from Al Horford. What I'm saying is I want to learn
Starting point is 02:03:10 if I'm going to ask how to win a championship, what you want to do, I want to talk to the guys who actually have to do something different to prepare versus somebody who's just there. We're going to call your name here and there. That's a very different conversation.
Starting point is 02:03:25 I'm sorry. He is a very still getting experience What is the experience? Being in that locker room being in that locker room being in all that like I'm the moments I'm sure the moments I'm sure the moments they have like somebody had never never seen before NBA champion In the winter rain, I don't know. I just know that shit gotta be life-changing. It's different.
Starting point is 02:03:47 To be over there and you hearing KD and all them getting together and they about to... Yeah. Bro, that does something to you. You learn some shit mentally, all that.
Starting point is 02:03:55 I'm telling you. I promise. So you don't think you being around like a championship team or people who winning it every year, you don't think that
Starting point is 02:04:04 your experiences... I stopped messing with the work after that you stop messing with the work after being a part of that Warriors Championship squad I stopped messing with the work I was a good man I promise I was a good man for sure stop the cap I was a good man I promise and then life happened no more blessing blessing the work blessing for blessings okay it was no more blessings for blessings. Probably at the parade here and there. Understandable. I promise you, I was at the team dinners with family.
Starting point is 02:04:35 Everything, it changes you, man. You wouldn't know that because I was around you and this is what you created. I was the confidence when y'all was on the road and stuff like that. Shit like that. Been down games, down 3-2 to Houston. Mm. Thinking it's over. Motherfucker like,
Starting point is 02:04:51 Who was thinking it was over? Me. I never been. Never know. That's what I'm talking about. They never been there, stupid. They still experience. I'm the only one that ain't never been, motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:05:03 What did I learn? I learned that shit ain't over been motherfucker What did I learn? I? Learned what would would do exactly? They down so from his experience from his from his my experience with you. He thought was gonna be in this situation Now if I ask curry or right, you know what he's what's your experience right now? I was gonna be there is two different fucking experiences. That's what I their ass. It's two different fucking experiences is what I'm saying. They don't know that. You see what I'm saying? You don't get it.
Starting point is 02:05:28 It's two different experiences, bro. You don't get it. Listen, everybody goes to a basketball game. The experience from front row to the motherfucking top of it is two different views. I don't give a fuck about your view up there. You can see the whole court up there. I don't care about your view up there. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:44 All 22. Hey, listen. When someone say, hey, what did Kobe say about this? And you ask that motherfucker up there. I don't get it. The shit he's saying isn't irrelevant because he couldn't hear.
Starting point is 02:05:55 He didn't see the motherfucking list. They fell on me. They fell on me. And they said, listen. They fell on me. And Kobe said, get your bitch ass off me. Right?
Starting point is 02:06:03 So when you ask me what was your experience like? I can tell you exactly. I know, but I'm saying, being down 3-2 and you thinking it's over and then you seeing it and then you going through it and you seeing it,
Starting point is 02:06:14 that don't change your experience? Like, damn, this shit can't happen. Like, right? Like, that's what I'm talking about. And I'm bringing that to the locker room and telling these motherfuckers they're going to be in situations like you don't know what situation you're going to be in. But think about what you're talking about. And I'm bringing that to the locker room and telling these motherfuckers, they're going to be in situations like you don't know what situation you're going to be in.
Starting point is 02:06:27 But think about what you're just saying. Right. His experience is telling you something. And I watched this shit. Their experience telling you there's two different experiences, right? No, I feel your love, man. L-I-G.
Starting point is 02:06:39 Right, he said, yeah, when we was down, I see, I thought it was over. I thought it was over. I see them doing this. Why do I want to, from a third party, I want to, hey, when you guys
Starting point is 02:06:49 was down three, two, what were you thinking? Oh, we wasn't worried about that. I just locked in. I did this. It's a different experience. But now I know that.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I can tell you that. How do you know that? You ain't even talking to me. Because I experienced it, motherfucker. But he was there. That was there. But if he's in there,
Starting point is 02:07:04 so how you going to say he didn't expect it? Yeah, what the fuck? He's in the locker room, right? When y'all was down 3-2. Down 3-2. What did you do to prepare for the next game? What you think I did?
Starting point is 02:07:17 I want to know. It changed. Of course, everything changed. But what was he playing though? I seen the mindset. I said, okay, we locked in. I seen. I seen it, in. I seen. I seen it, yeah. I seen. I never been
Starting point is 02:07:28 there before. Not I did. I never been there before. You don't have the experience. Thank you. I'm asking him a question. What? Alright, now what is that? I hear what you're saying. What did you do to pre, what did you individually do to prepare
Starting point is 02:07:44 so you can give the experience? See, if I asked Curry. I locked in with him. If I asked Curry. What you talking about? If I asked Curry. We locked in as a team. I seen some different shit I normally don't see.
Starting point is 02:07:53 I asked Curry. That's his fear. What did you, you going to ask him after this? What, when you were down 3-2, what did you do? He's going to give you what I did. Hey, man, look. I went to the gym at this time, this time, this time. I watched film.
Starting point is 02:08:07 I went to the gym early. I had to prepare. He can give you a map. He can just see. What the fuck? These niggas look more motherfucking confident. They look confident. Ooh, they look good.
Starting point is 02:08:19 They look intense. You don't think he's out there, though, like in the drills and doing nothing? Yeah, what are you talking about? You think he's just on the sidelines just like, oh, shit, I'm just having... You don't think he's in nothing? You know the drills and doing nothing? What are you talking about? You think he's just on the sidelines just like oh shit, I'm just like you don't think he's in nothing? You know you got to work out and do everything too. You're retarded. What did you do? Mentally challenged. Let's try it again. What did you do to prepare? Motherfucker, I trained. What you think I did? You think I just sit there and watch?
Starting point is 02:08:39 Are you retarded? This is my first time being in this situation. So what did you do? When you were down three? So I fed off my teammates. I seen what they was doing. I did the same thing. I worked my ass off. What is that? This is my first time being in this situation. So what did you do? So I fed off my teammates. I seen what they was doing. I did the same thing. I worked my ass off. What is that? We was all in this shit together.
Starting point is 02:08:49 What did you do? So if I get somebody that experienced that, I'm going to bring that to you. I'm going to show them what we did. We? Do you want me to tell you? I don't want to tell you what we all did. I want to tell you what you personally did. What did you personally do?
Starting point is 02:09:03 I don't want to hear you. I'm going to tell you what they did. What did you personally do? I'm going to tell you what he personally did. This is what we did. What did you... I don't want to hear you weep, weep, weep. What did you personally do? I'm an Oscar Russo in this situation. I'm going to tell you where he's going to stay. We're down three, two. They're going to see
Starting point is 02:09:12 this locker room fucked up, right? Everybody's sad and stuff. It ain't over. I've been in this situation before. Everybody up at six. Everybody be to the gym at eight. We're going to go over this and that. We're going to lift at nine.
Starting point is 02:09:24 We're going to meet back here at five. Then we're going to have lunch together. I mean, dinner at 8. We're going to go over this and that. We're going to lift at 9. We're going to meet back here at 5. Then we're going to have lunch together. I mean, dinner at 8. Then the team's going to be jelly. You're going to see your star player, or whoever. He ain't the star, but he's the guy that people respect. So they're going to feed off this energy. Whatever happens, they know me as they talk about.
Starting point is 02:09:40 Next game, everybody's going to be fired up, ready to go. Mindset switches. The shit you're going to say, we got to shoot more shots, man. We got to make our shots. That ain't the shit we talk about when we down 3-2. We talk about the little things
Starting point is 02:09:53 with motherfucking switching on fucking James Harden or stopping him, don't foul him in the act of shooting threes and shit like that. You worried about shooting more shots and shit. It's more than offense in the championships. You got to really buckle down and play defense and the little things. You know that, right?
Starting point is 02:10:13 Okay, let me... I'm going to try to... You're French right now, and I'm trying to get you from being French. No, you're... I want to ask you... Nothing wrong with being French. He's trying to say...
Starting point is 02:10:23 What he's saying is when y'all was down 3-2, what did you come in... I've never been in? Do I so you don't know what to do? But I learned cuz they they I was in the environment told you we worked out together What if you never been that position? How would you know? I never you right. He's never won the playoffs be damn never been to the playoffs I mean only thing you could do is All I know For never making the playoffs with Gil and when I did we lost three zero four got swept
Starting point is 02:10:50 So all I know is shit you train on your own in summertime when it's over. Okay, so y'all lost Y'all y'all lost May 24th Right. Y'all lost May 24th. Right? Y'all lost May 24th. So I'm going to ask you again. Y'all lost May... Look at it. I'm looking at it. You lost May... And look when we tied it up.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Look at that game. I'm going to ask you a question. But look at the next game. I lost you. You lost May 24th. But look at the next game. You lost May 24th. How much did we win by?
Starting point is 02:11:19 You lost May 24th. But look at the next game. I'm going to get to the next game, brother. That's all I want to see. I lost... You lost May 24th. Mm-hmm the next game. I'm going to get to the next game, brother. That's all I want to see. I lost, you lost May 24th. Mm-hmm. What did you do after the game? Let's look at the next game.
Starting point is 02:11:31 What did you do after the game? Just look at the next game. What I'm saying is, what did you do after the game? And then the 25th, what did you do the 25th? Look at the game. And then the 25th. What did you do the 25th? Look at the stats. Did you get a massage? Did you go to therapy? Did you go get extra shots?
Starting point is 02:11:54 Did you shoot a thousand shots? Did you shoot two thousand shots? What did you do to prepare for the next game? I don't want to hear about when you got as a group because great players do stuff before you get to the group. So I want to know what you did.
Starting point is 02:12:14 What did Nicholas do? Of course I trained on my own, but as a team, you have to come together more. It ain't individual shit. In that environment. You know, I know you don't know if it's individual because you don't know what the other players did. Everybody got their own work in,
Starting point is 02:12:30 but we did more shit as a unit. What did you do? I'm telling you. You're telling me we. All right. You don't want to hear it. What did you do? Did you go to sleep?
Starting point is 02:12:38 Did you go to sleep early? You don't want to hear what we did. What did you do? We got together. Fucking damn near two days just being around each other. We need to be around each other in the gym and shit. So. Get everybody's spirits up.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Niggas went. We went to fucking, we played goddamn. After practice and shit, we went to motherfucking, shit we was doing was the, what's the shit when you got to get out of. I don't know. I never won championships. So tell me what y'all did. Escape room. We went to escape room me shit. We was doing was the what's the shit when you um gotta get out of I don't know I never won championships. So tell me what y'all did escape room He was like we had to come together the unit he was everybody was Dismantled y'all we gotta come to coast y'all were down to three. Yeah They say well forgot to practice
Starting point is 02:13:24 J-mon was one of the main leaders in that, motherfucker. I ain't gonna lie. Draymond was one of the main leaders in there getting everybody together, getting the spirits up and shit. All right, give me last point and then we will move on. But you did not win. That's the problem in this situation. You know the problem is, the problem is when you get to the gym,
Starting point is 02:13:46 you see me for the first time and you see what I do to prepare for the gym. He don't fucking know what I did before the gym. He don't know what I did the night before the gym. He don't know if I went to sleep at 8 o'clock. He don't know if when we finished talking I stayed and shot three hours.
Starting point is 02:14:01 He don't know that. You're so by yourself. You don't know that. You're sold by yourself. You don't know that. You're just an individual. You're not a team guy. I'm by myself because I'm the lead dog. You're not a team guy. The lead dog does more than you niggas. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:14:13 That's the problem. That's your mindset. You don't know what they did. That's why you don't win. You don't win. You are, we don't need you. You don't win if you're saying, if you're telling the other guy.
Starting point is 02:14:22 Your mindset is one or two minutes. No, you're not winning. You're thinking one or two minutes. No, I're not winning. You're thinking one or two minutes. No, I'm not thinking one or two minutes. There's somebody out there. Like, you think Jordan came up with the Breakfast Club for everybody? He was the Breakfast Club before he got to y'all. He was the Breakfast Club for six, seven years.
Starting point is 02:14:37 And he didn't win. He didn't win. He started adding people to the Breakfast Club. What happened? What happened? He added people. How many people you think came to the Breakfast Club? He added people to the Breakfast Club. What happened? What happened? He added people. How many people you think came to the Breakfast Club? He added people to win.
Starting point is 02:14:48 How many people you think came to the Breakfast Club? Here you are. How many? I just am asking you a question. Okay, please don't listen to Caruso. He don't know shit about nothing. I'm just asking you. Caruso don't know a goddamn thing.
Starting point is 02:14:58 There was a Breakfast Club for six years. Talk to God. If you want to win, talk to God. Just answer the question, man. Talk to God. There was six. He did the for six years. God if you want to win talk to God just answer the question man Talk to God six that he did the breakfast club for damn his whole career during the championship Okay, they won six championships right the breakfast look how many people was invited to this Wouldn't know that. Who do you think?
Starting point is 02:15:26 I don't know. The greats? Huh? The greats? How many? Horace Grant, Pippen, Ron Harper, Rodman. Right? So when you ask about the breakfast club... So he didn't need Kerr or Kerr.
Starting point is 02:15:42 So Kerr don't know shit. He can't win a championship. I don't know why he even coached. He don't know shit about the breakfast club. He don't need Kerr or Curve. So, Kerr don't know shit. He can't win a championship. I don't know why he even coached. He don't know shit about the breakfast. He don't got no experience. He do not know shit about the breakfast club and what they did before they got there. But he won three championships. What I'm saying is he do not know the preparation they did before team practice.
Starting point is 02:16:00 You hear what I'm saying? I hear what I'm saying. He don't know nothing. He don't know nothing they did. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, I hear what I'm saying. That he don't know nothing they did. You see what I'm saying? He don't know what they did to prepare for the team. But he's still winning, though. What I'm saying is I don't give a fuck about his.
Starting point is 02:16:17 I want to know the lead dog's vision. All right, Gil. You're right. You're right. So when you're telling me... We were blind. We wouldn't see shit you doing. We just cut off. When you're on somebody else's team, you don't know nothing they're doing. You don't hear about shit.
Starting point is 02:16:30 You don't know nothing's going on. You don't know shit. Steve Kerr don't know a goddamn thing. I don't know how he won. He's never been to the breakfast club. But he won. He's a winner. How can he tell you about the breakfast club?
Starting point is 02:16:45 Because he heard? Why do I want information from someone who heard about it when there's somebody who was there? Are you not? You think like a fucking role player. I'm sorry. I'm not thinking like a role player. Everybody's involved in the championship.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Then where was their fucking breakfast club, nigga? Everybody don't got a fucking breakfast club. Of course. I understand. Then where was their fucking breakfast club, nigga? Everybody don't got a fucking breakfast club. Of course. What the fuck you talking about? Of course. They don't. That's dumb shit. Because there's role play.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Goddamn, everybody not motherfucking Jordan. Of course. Fuck. That's dumb shit. Everyone is not Jordan. Again, what did I say? Everyone is not. You're not Lee.
Starting point is 02:17:22 I'm asking Lee dog questions. You're thinking like a puppy. If Eagle Dollar got something to tell me, I'm going to listen. If Eagle Dollar talking to me, I'm listening. I don't want to know what a puppy's talking about. Whether you're a lead dog or a puppy. I don't want to know what a puppy's talking about. If Sean Livingston's talking about this.
Starting point is 02:17:37 If I'm going to ask about a championship, I'm not asking you what you prefer. I feel to be in a championship. I don't know how to ask fucking Sean Livingston, Eagle Dollar, David West, motherfucker, Draymond Green. I can't ask none of them how I feel to be in a championship. I can only ask Stealth or KD. KD didn't know how to fucking win until he got there. I asked you how did you prepare.
Starting point is 02:18:00 The fuck is you talking about? I asked you how did you prepare. That's to show KD how to win. I asked you how did you prepare. You talking stupid. I asked you how did you prepare. You talking stupid. I asked you how did you prepare during the championship, and you still can't tell us. You're talking dumb. You're sounding dumb.
Starting point is 02:18:12 I asked you numerous times, how did you prepare for the championship during game to game? You can't tell us. So why am I, what information is he giving you? I told you I trained, but I'm trying to tell you for what I've seen. Fuck you want to know how I trained?
Starting point is 02:18:29 I'm telling you what we did as a team. That's your fucking problem. You're dumb. You want to think about just dumb shit. Like this. Like this.
Starting point is 02:18:36 You got to play as a team. What did you do? I'm going to tell you what we did as a team to get ready for the championship. I ain't going to tell you what I just did. I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 02:18:43 what we all did as a unit. What you do, Nick, I'm gonna tell you what we did. What we did. Because it ain't gonna be we out there. All right, this is a show. So what's the point? No, no, no. This is a show, right? This is a show. We... Okay.
Starting point is 02:18:54 ...are on the show. Okay. Okay. We are on the show, 1130. Gil Zerina, presented by her dog, Woo Woo. Woo Woo. Woo Woo. Thank you. Okay. Appreciate that on the show, 1130. Gills are in to present about her dog, Woof, Woof. Woof, Woof.
Starting point is 02:19:08 Woof, Woof. Okay, appreciate that. Woof, Woof. So if someone asks us, hey, how do you guys prepare the show? What can you give them? You are part of this show. You're watching and you're in this show. What can you give them? When they say, hey they say man we want to duplicate the show what do you
Starting point is 02:19:29 tell them no just answer the question what do you know you can't tell them I don't know what I do you don't know what you do what do no no no no so we can put it in perspective what no when you come here what is your what do I do? No, no, no. What am I doing? No, no. So we can put it in perspective. No, no. When you come here, what do you do for the show exactly? Help us win championships. Help us win championships, right? Championship level show. Hey, what time do you start the rundown for the show?
Starting point is 02:20:01 Well, honestly, Gil, sometimes during the show, when you guys go on these long battles, we'll start prepping the show uh well honestly gil sometimes during the show when you guys go on these long uh battles we'll start prepping the show for tomorrow but usually after the game about 7 p.m to about 2 a.m so 7 get back up about 8 so 7 p.m about 2 a.m then back up at 7 30 none of us know what he's doing see he's here two hours to steve as well hold on he's and baron he's here two hours to doing what we're doing but what did you do before here to get you ready for this? Do we practice for the show? 7 a.m. to 2 a.m.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Do we have to? Do we practice for the show? Wait, wait, breakfast. I don't show you guys because then you can make me obsolete. Don't show us. So he's doing something different to prepare. Parking lot with my shades on. You're doing something different to prepare, right?
Starting point is 02:20:40 He's preparing. You're doing something different. Go to basketball practice. Hey, hey, hey, what, what, what? Paulo. It's not making no sense. Paulo. You're doing something different. Hey, hey, hey. Paulo. You're doing something different. What time did you come in? I knew you were going in, Paulo. Good job.
Starting point is 02:20:53 We don't practice for the show. No, you don't practice for the show. That's the difference. What time did you get here? You're right, Gil. You're right. 9.30. What time did you get here? You know what? They just showed up to the finals. Whatever they did, they did. What time?
Starting point is 02:21:06 Steph just worked out by herself. No, I'm not asking. No, I'm going to tell you what happened. No, no. Steph worked out by herself. KD worked out by himself. And they just showed up and they made shots. That's what you want to hear?
Starting point is 02:21:15 What time? That's what the fuck happened. That's what happened. What time did you get here? They didn't come together. What time? We don't talk. We are here together.
Starting point is 02:21:23 What time did you show up? No, no, no. We didn't have practice. They worked out. We are here right now doing this show every day. Let them win. So I'm asking you. Tell them to win, Chad. I'm asking you a question, man. I'm asking you a real question. I practice.
Starting point is 02:21:37 They practice on their own. I'm asking you a real question. No, no, no, no. I practice. We do this show from 1130 to 2 o'clock as a unit. Yeah. We just met. As a unit.
Starting point is 02:21:48 We just met. We are doing fucking great as a unit. We just met. Right? So together as a unit, we are doing fabulous. The question is not what we're doing as a unit. The question is what time did you get here? They just met.
Starting point is 02:22:01 You got here what? 11 what? No, they just met. What time did you get here? 930. 930. 930. So you here what? 11 what? No, they just met. What time did you get here? 9.30. 9.30.
Starting point is 02:22:08 So you don't know what she did to prepare for the game. What time did you get here? Look, they met. 11? You don't know? What time did you get here? They met. 10.
Starting point is 02:22:16 You don't know? What time did you get here? They met. 10. 10 o'clock. What time did you get here? Thank you. 10.30.
Starting point is 02:22:24 What time did you get here? 11. 11. Not making sense. Not making sense. You let it. They're not making sense. I'm the last one here, but the first one here. I come here 11, 30 something, but you don't know what I'm doing. It is your house. Four. We don't know what he's doing, right? But the show runs perfect. Everybody trying. The show is perfect.
Starting point is 02:22:37 On occasion. On occasion. Is what I'm saying. You don't know all the pieces that's going into making this show what it is. Yeah, we got to make it. So just like a championship, you don't know what Steph is doing. We're not running up against each other. You just know when y'all get together, this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 02:22:53 We're not having a debate against another team. We're talking amongst each other. If we was about to go up against another team in a debate, I'm pretty sure we'd have another strategy than just show up and talk. Everybody do their own shit. You trying to act like, what time you get here? What time you get here? What time you get here? That shit don't mean something.
Starting point is 02:23:12 If we was... Somebody was sitting across from us and we was gonna debate about some shit. My team against his team, I'm pretty sure it'd be different, Gil. Look, Steph didn't just show up individual practice, KD individual practice, show up to the finals and see what happened. The shit don't happen like that.
Starting point is 02:23:28 What the fuck is you talking about? We got practice, we got meetings, we got everything. What is you talking about? You're talking crazy. You don't know what everybody's doing to prepare. It don't matter, but I know what we did when we did come together. Of course, they don't know what I did. You don't know if I trained.
Starting point is 02:23:44 That's what I asked you. I don't got shit to do what we did as a team. We, of course you did. Of course. They don't know what I did. You don't know if I trained. That's what I asked you. But Gil, I don't got shit to do what we did as a team. We do a great show as a team. Oh, it's... You don't know what... You don't know what... You're right.
Starting point is 02:23:53 You don't know what we do as a unit. You're right. You don't know what we do as individuals to get this shit popping. You're right. I know I'm right. You're right. You don't know what everyone does
Starting point is 02:24:03 to prepare for this. You don't know. You've never been. You wouldn't know. You wouldn't know. I get it. And let's move on to MostlyFans. Right, and that's that on that. Time it up, y'all. Presented by Underdog. Y'all love the athlete.
Starting point is 02:24:17 Get $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. Whereas the Steph Curry of this show, I would just like to tell all of you guys, I appreciate all y'all. Steph Curry this show. No, I'm just like, tell all of you guys, I appreciate all y'all. Steph Curry this show. No, I'm just like, what you doing? You was up to 2 a.m. writing it down, huh? No, you know.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Yeah, yeah. Snacking as well. Snacking. My nighttime hobbies. 7 p.m. to 2 a.m. You lost. You lost. That's what you did, Steph Curry.
Starting point is 02:24:38 You lost. I'm more Bob Myers, you can say, too. You lost. Joe Laker. I won. No, you're Joe Laker. Joe Laker, you got a back? No, I don't. I need the can say, too. You lost. Joe Laker. I won. No, you're Joe Laker. Joe Laker, you got a back? No, I don't.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I need the back. You're always talking about... I need the back. You're always talking about... Merely a hug. ...the side dish. You're always talking about the macaroni, and you never talk about the turkey.
Starting point is 02:24:57 It is a good turkey, Nick. You're always talking about the side and shit. I'm talking about what we did as a unit. For more efficiency. Yeah, nigga, what are you talking about? You're talking about what we did as a unit. For more efficiency. You're talking about what you did as a unit. I'm talking about what did you all put in into the Thanksgiving dinner. Once the Thanksgiving dinner is put, yeah, it's a great dinner.
Starting point is 02:25:14 But what did you bring to the table to make it a dinner? That's what I'm asking. That's the difference. You want to talk about the dinner itself and how we all look as a unit and we went to the mall and we did this cool I'm talking about what did you do individually to prepare for the game did you watch film did you do what did you do okay you didn't have to do nothing you don't have everybody's gonna watch film. Everybody's gonna train on their own course.
Starting point is 02:25:48 That's the playoffs. Everybody's gonna do that. I'm asking you what you do. That's all I was asking. I don't... The same shit I do every time, but probably empty it up more. What is that? Work out by my goddamn self. Bring my brother in and shoot. Do these shots. Do the plays I'm gonna do.
Starting point is 02:26:04 I'm gonna be in the corner most Of time but shoot this shot for the fucker with Katie drive. I gotta move down shoot this mini shots How many? Fucking meat so regular season team no, I'm asking you so regular season you shot 50 Did you ump it up in the playoffs to start to 200? If you don't do that type of shit That's that's you should be playing basketball if you're in the playoffs and you don't have to shoot up when you're down That you should be playing basketball. That's dumb shit you talking about
Starting point is 02:26:35 I'm asking you. What did you do as an individual man? To help your team if you're missing the point, you're missing the point. I don't because you don't have to say the obvious Is that the obvious? The obvious wasn't him at 7 a.m. To 2 a.m. Working and working on this show. That's not obvious because you don't know You do not know what he's bringing you don't know what step did cuz you're not stuck Okay, you don't know your ass is Nick Young. I don't know what Steph did because you're not Steph. Okay. You don't know what you did. You're right. Your ass is Nick Young. You played one minute.
Starting point is 02:27:07 All you know is one minute motherfucking thinking. Don't be mad because I motherfucking hate you. That's all you know. Don't be a hater. One minute thinking. All right. That's all you know. You're mad.
Starting point is 02:27:18 I'm sorry. I averaged 29. You don't know what I did to average 29. Your ass averaged fucking five. You do five point worth of did to average 29. Your ass average fucking five. You do five point worth of shit. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. You don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 02:27:30 You average 29 once, nigga. When you play in the playoffs, you average none. 34. I gave your ass 29. 34. I gave you 29. You don't know what I did to prepare. Let's talk about your playoffs next.
Starting point is 02:27:41 So you can't talk about me, dog. I can. You do not know. I do. Why you was at the motherfucking club, nigga? I was working out. You don't know. We don't have the same route.
Starting point is 02:27:50 I'm sorry. I'm at the club. I'm just being real. We don't have the same route. My God. I'm working three, four times a day. You're working three, four times a day. So when I say these motherfuckers ain't ready, don't put them in the game.
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Starting point is 02:28:48 Download the app. Use promo code GETUP to $1,000 in bonus cash for a special pickup. We got a video question from Underdog user C1FlySolo. Has he ever been in that? If you were the NBA commissioner, what would you do to fix the decline of viewerships? If you were the NBA commissioner, what would you do to fix the decline in viewership? Let's start with Mr. B. It's been a while. See you with the rough greens.
Starting point is 02:29:10 You got the poop bags. Obviously, you're an honorable man. You're going to pick up and scoop the poop after you walk. So if you were commissioner... Oh, you also have Gills Arena Season 3 merch available at gillsarenamerch.com. Yes, I do. If you were commissioner, how would you fix the decline in viewership?
Starting point is 02:29:26 What did the coach from Boston say? I'd let them fight. Bring back more physical play. I think people said they stopped watching because of three-point shots, but that's probably not going to change just because of the way the game is, but a little bit more physical play. Okay. Let's move over to Swaggy. Swaggy, if you were commissioner, how would you fix the decline in viewership?
Starting point is 02:29:52 Shit, you got to get people mad. Somebody got to do it. You know? Get them mad. They learn how to push their buttons, you know? Okay, so there'd be more button pushing in the league. Yeah, more button pushing, getting under people's skins and shit. Turn up. Somebody got to turn up, It's getting under people's skins and shit. More getting up. Somebody got to turn up, man.
Starting point is 02:30:08 You know, listen to Caruso. And last but not least, Gil, if you were commissioner, how would you... I'm not going to read this. You say you're not going to read it, but... I'm not going to read this. It's like you said you weren't going to be disrespectful to Caruso. Yeah. The whole thing started by saying I don't mean to be disrespectful.
Starting point is 02:30:28 What was the question? If you were commissioner, how would you fix a decline in viewership? Put it all on one channel like it used to be. Like, you know, when UTVS was there, just put it on regular TV for everyone to see it. So the people in the home state can just watch it. You got to put it in one place so everyone can see it. Like, it's all spread. There's games on this station, games on that station.
Starting point is 02:30:56 You need Laker Vision to watch Laker games. You need Clipper Vision to watch Clipper. Like, you know what I mean? Like, for me to watch all sports, what, we need about six platforms now? Yeah, yeah, facts. Very diverse. That shit is crazy. Now, you're right. Facts.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Especially you got to get direct TV for the Lakers and shit. Yeah. Spectrum Sports have a great channel. Shout-out to the crew over there doing tremendous work. Difficult for something to find. I'm a basic-ass cable type of dude, though, so... What you about to say? I said that, brother. Look at yours. I mean, look at your shit. I ain't saying nothing, man. My phone went dead. I'm a basic ass cable type of dude though, so
Starting point is 02:31:33 Can we get naked charger, please or better yet I got my confirmation big brother. I know how to get under his skin. I got my confirmation. Big Brother Gil. Why you so mad at me? Katie hit me. He told me everything he did. Who? Kevin Durant. I know. I talk to Kevin all the time.
Starting point is 02:31:53 That's my dog. I know everything. Put us all on a group chat, please. I asked him what he did, and I got my answer. We good. We good. On that note, Nick, we appreciate you. Mr. B, we appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:32:03 Gil, we appreciate you. Everybody in the chat, we appreciate y'all for your dedication and willingness to support your favorite basketball show through thick and thin. You know, sometimes we get turned up, but once the cameras go off, it's all love. Hell no, it ain't love. Okay, well then.
Starting point is 02:32:15 Not today. Get it in. Squabble up. But on that note. Listen, listen. Like in Madden. Right. He plays Madden.
Starting point is 02:32:23 But would you take advice from him? If I won a championship. Oh, yeah. That nigga stupid, bro. And he personally won one as an individual. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Remember, remember, me and him, right, me and him came back and beat you and McKenzie, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:32:41 Who really was... No, me, me, me. Who was really doing what? Me, me. And on that note, hey, who was really doing what, right? Who really was... No, me, me, me. Who was really doing what? And on that note, hey, who was really doing what? Who scored all the... Hey, who scored all the touchdowns? I mean, it was we, so both of us. No, no, no. We was playing,
Starting point is 02:32:55 but there was only one. There was only one person scoring all the touchdowns. All you heard was, Gil, go, Gil! Gil, go, Gil! I never say no shit like that. I never say no go, Gil. Fuck it. But it is time for us to go. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Whoa, whoa! Whoa, whoa! See y'all tomorrow. Take your ass home, dog. No! Get on the sticks.

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