Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Debating KD vs Steph's Legacy

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Gil's Arena DEBATES Who Takes The Philadelphia 76ers' Last Shot as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Paul George's comments over which of the Sixers' Big 3 will be shooting in the clutch and discuss how Joel Embiid & Tyrese Maxey will fit with their new superstar teammate. They also react to the war of words between Kevin Durant and Dennis Schroder over European Hoops and discuss KD's GOAT level presence on social media as one of the most hostile NBA tweeters ever. Next, they give their reactions to Rich Paul reportedly shutting down a potential trade to send LeBron James To the Golden State Warriors to play alongside Steph Curry & Draymond Green and discuss the importance of loyalty when it comes to an NBA superstar's legacy. Finally, they highlight the best games of the NBA's 2024 schedule and react to who got the best selection of national tv and marquee games. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin, & Rashad McCants Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:06 Gil's All Star Photoshoot 0:07:25 Kenyon's Baggy Fit 0:10:13 KD's Twitter War With Dennis Schroder 0:18:27 Hoops IQ vs Talent 0:31:36 KD's Approach To Social Media 0:45:03 Rich Paul Shuts Down LeBron-Warriors Trade 1:00:24 Debating KD vs Steph's Legacy 1:07:53 How The Media Impacts A Players' Legacy 1:47:02 Olympic Standout Yabusele Joins The 76ers 2:01:33 Who Shoots The 76ers Last Second Shot? 2:10:43 MostlyFans 2:32:26 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Got the crew here. How are y'all feeling today? Good, good. Gil, I see you got the new... Merch. Season 3 merch. Does that not trickle down? This is season 3.

This is just not like after the summer merch. Okay, I don't know. After the summer. It's season 3. This is just like after the summer merch. Okay. I don't know. After the summer. It's season three merch because you got to get it new. Yeah. Okay. As soon as I get it, I'll just wear it. When they come online, people go get it.

Season three merch. That arena apparel. Get that arena. Arena apparel. Got the arena apparel coming soon. Can't get this, though. This is Henry. Uh-oh.

Rodriguez. Okay. The Jet. The Jet. And like get this, though. This is Henry. Rodriguez. OK, the Jet. Sandlock. Benny the Jet. When jerseys was popping, this didn't come out there, huh? No, no. What's that? They didn't have none of these.

The Sandlock. No. The Sandlock. Sunset Park and all. Oh, they didn't have none. Yeah. Yeah, I love them. They did real.

They ain't Sunset Park. Hey. Oh, yeah, I need you to sign this, my man. The mention was crazy. Yeah, go ahead them. They did real... They ain't sunset party. Oh, yeah, I need you to sign this, my man. The mention was crazy. Yeah, go ahead and bless that. We're just doing a little... Okay. We're doing a little raffle. All right.

For the fans. A little giveaway. A little giveaways. I'm just being honest. Who's this? Tell them to let it go. I didn't see. Tell them to let it go.

Somebody. Somebody with a... All right, come on, man. I mean, come on. How the fuck do we know who this is? It's a staff. It's a staff. I'm just saying, Like, come on, man. I mean, come on. How do we know? How the fuck do we know who this is? It's a staff. It's a staff.

They're like, you know. I'm just saying, man. Come on, man. You don't know my name anyway. You got to get your autograph game right. I used to hate that when we, remember All Star Weekend? Yeah, boy. Motherfuckers just be putting CB and AB.

Like, come on, man. Put a real signature on my shit, man. They like, that is my real signature. Three CBs, man. CB4, that is my real signature. Three CBs, man. CB4, CB3. That's a simple one. You remember when you got all those tape? That's what I was about to say, because there's

300 balls in there. It's too many. It's too many. And that's like ball number 167. Yeah, man. That motherfucker, you start off, if you don't get them first 100, we in the mood to write the full autograph.

The whole autograph. If you ain't lucky enough write the full autograph, if you ain't lucky enough to get that one, if you had like 200, yeah, you definitely getting an abbreviation and maybe a number. For sure. If you had like the last 12, oh, you ain't getting no number. Nothing. That shit ain't going to be legible at all.

It's going to be cursive. It ain't going to be legible at all. I had some all-stars I got. All right, CB. Is that Karan Bull or is that Chris Bosh? Yeah, it's Chris. No. Okay, I got two CBs, so. All right, hey.

You got to look like somebody left-hand wrote this. And then, hey, then I go right to the, hey, man, hey, we playing Miami. Which one is yours? Put your number on it. Put your number on it. Put your number on it. God, that is crazy as hell. Thanks. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

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in the arena today. Rich Paul reportedly shut down a LeBron trade to the Warriors to protect his legacy. But how important should legacy be to star players in the league?

Kevin Durant is one of the most visible athletes on social media, but does KD's willingness to clap back at haters make him weak as a person? At least one European Hooper thinks so. And the Sixers might have the best big three in the league with Embiid, Maxie, and PG, but who's taking the last shot on this squad? We will discuss. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Go ahead and download the app, and you can receive

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I don't know about y'all, but I was getting blown up yesterday by fans saying, how come we not on Monday? Where y'all at? We need to rejuvenate. Are we giving you three days a week in August?

I ain't gonna lie, man. This is a little bit boring when I'm not on the show. Oh, man. Sitting here like, man, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I thought it was Monday. I swear to God,

I thought it was Monday. When the fans are like, hey, man, I thought we was going to the club. That was yesterday. We need to rejuvenate to just like y'all. We need a day off, a day of rest. I mean, shit, after Thursday, we can go out of the country now. And be back in time. To Tuesday.

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live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So you were talking about All-Star Weekend a second ago, so we're going to start the show with a trip back down memory lane, all the way back to the 2007 NBA All-Star Game in Las Vegas. But more specifically, this photo shoot that you did. So NBA Twitter legend Jasmine L. Watkins recently tweeted out some pics from a photo shoot from the game, including one of Gil rocking this fit. So, Gil, take a look.

How do we know that's from 07? Because we did that photo shoot, I remember. We did? Yeah, it was the room where we had the brown background. I remember that shit because I had a tie and shit on. Everybody was dressed in the big gear. But the biscuits you got on. That's what I said. Where did I get them? You're trying to find out

what crime was committed in these shoes. You got the extra white in them. I remember this now So yeah, well, I don't know what's the story behind your outfit in this 2007 NBA All-Star Game, but it was um, I was doing blogging Oh, okay. I was like agent zero blogging and you know my blog with a typewriter with nothing typed Oh, yeah, so they hit me with the old school typewriter like Inspector Gadget. It was like the Inspector Gadget look.

Sure, like home. Yeah, it was that little vibe. Come on, man. Y'all know them NBA personnel people, man. You know, they don't know shit, man. But you, I mean, you knew what you was doing before you put them shoes on, though. I don't even know where that gear came from. I didn't bring that shit.

That's all from them. You put on some, you got on somebody's shoe? Yeah. Damn, killer. Jacket, too, huh? Who cut? I don't know, man. I'll start bring that shit. That's all from them. You put on some... Oh, you got on somebody else's shoe? Yeah. That's... Damn, killer. Jacket too, huh? I don't know, man. All-Star... Think about it. That's your hat, though. That's your hat. No. All-Star weekend. We wearing this shit All-Star weekend, dog. We didn't bring no clothes for All-Star weekend.

I spent a decade in the bedroom, dog. The whole weekend. It was in Vegas, right? Yeah. This thing, you think I'm bringing this to Vegas? Who... How can You think I'm bringing this to Vegas? How come you think I'm bringing my own basketball jersey to Vegas? I mean, the look on your face, I don't know if you're... He's like, you're mad. He's like, come on, I'm not bringing that to Vegas.

He's like, give me a computer, goddamn. What is this, a fire burner? What is this? A fire burner? A power cord? I mean, the shoes, maybe. I don't know. I'm looking like, that could have been part of my wardrobe.

Remember how big our jeans was back then? Look how big them jeans is. I was out the shoes, maybe. I don't know. I'm looking like, that could have been part of my wardrobe. Remember how big our jeans was back then? Look how big them jeans is. I was out the whole season, so I didn't... You didn't go to Vegas? Of course. But did you have... What kind of clothes did you have in Vegas?

Big clothes. We had the old-fashioned clothes. I was fly, because I was out, though. I wasn't wearing... I was hooping. I was on the streets. On the streets?

I was starting. I was hooping. Where we going? What? Imagine it was turned up in Vegas. Man, I didn't walk in my room one day when the sun was down. Facts.

Every morning I walked in my room, it looked like outside right now. It might have been the most lit All-Star, though. It was. Yeah, it was. A lot of shit going on. And since we're going back down memory lane with outfits,

we also got to talk about this fit that Kenya got off back in 2005 during the Nuggets game. Ooh! The Gucci! You see the Gucci's though? The Gucci's though! With the cut. With the cut. Look how big the jeans is.

He got to cuff them shits, boy! Had to match the look. Whoever's uniform is next to me is just as big, so we had to match. That's a beautiful... That's Julius' ass? And the thing about this shit is, the shirt is custom-made, the pants is custom-made. That motherfucker's so small in the waist. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Waist on the motherfucker like this big. Is that L.A.V.? Yeah. L.A.V. That's not. That was Jarrett. Jarrett. Oh, Jarrett. Jarrett was cold. Yeah, no, he was. Jarrett was cold. No, he was. Jared was cold.

I'm trying to see what watch that is, though. Something we could like. Like a Jacob. Yeah, it was that night. That was that big boy. The big boy. Yeah, that was a big boy. I remember all that shit.

No, but that's a one of one. Because I didn't watch it. I love watches. No, but that's a one of one. Yeah. Like, there's nobody. The black band. This is 2005, 2006

Or 4 or 5 This might have been 07 when I was out That's 07 Might have been when I was out I missed the whole season Somebody said 05 So this is back when Ho came out with the button down And we all started

We all did that shit Yeah cause I used to go to the Thomas Pink What was that store. Is it Thomas Pink? What was that store called? Was it Thomas Pink? Where, here? Nah, just in the mall.

It was a Thomas Pink where it had the button downs. Oh, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to go get all Thomas Pink. I used to get my shit from Big & Tall. Nice cuff link on them joints. Yeah, I'm saying, yeah. That's when the, hey, niggas, when we didn't care about this shit, what kind of cuff link

you got? Let me see that shit. Oh, I had all, man, I got like eight. What kind of cuff link? I had my initials and everything. Yellow, white, rose. I had a pair of dominoes. I had all kinds of shit.

They do this shit automatically, though, when you do the custom shit. Like, they automatically get you. And the cuff links was the shit. I was just getting made through the jewelry. I've seen a lot of young people trying to clown that photo, but they don't realize or recognize back in 2005. I was flying five. I was flying five, yeah.

Six X, seven X, eight X. For that era, for then, I was, I wouldn't have put it on. I would not have worn it if I didn't think it was. So they try to come back now, but this is the fist we were getting off back then. And what they didn't realize, I was getting 30% off and Gucci like every Gucci store Around the world. I got 30% off didn't worse than it. Oh, no, this is the Thinking no bagger than anything enough. Okay. Yeah, this is this is that shit off. Yeah

That's this era, right? I guess that's what you're gonna like a rock star That's when like when you see when you see the and he Christian, like, when you see the... I was listening to Jeezy. When you see the... And he, Christian, everything. I was listening to Jeezy. Y'all can have that. I was listening to Jeezy. I was J then.

J and Wayne. Jeezy. The fat Jeezy. No, I was listening to Jeezy. But the over... Yeah, okay. I was listening to Jeezy. The snowman.

Yeah, everything. I was at home printing T-shirts with Jeezy scenes on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wearing them to the club. Oh, yeah. Itaring them to the club. Oh, yeah. It's a snowman. Yeah, I was, Jeezy said, I ain't leave nothing at the crib. I got it all on.

Yeah. I wore every piece of jewelry I had to the club. Just young, dumb, and just listening to rap music. Yeah, in hindsight, do you regret that? No. Who's going to say something? How do we regret? That's what the look was.

That, but, yeah. But then they required us to cut suits, and you got to show up to the game with all that shit. Take the shit right off. Taking the zoot suit right off as soon as this motherfucking horn go off. But that's, you know what's so funny is, we weren't dressing up still.

Yeah. Right? Absolutely. We were still. This was before the dress code. No, this was after. No, that was after. This was after. Because Chug started it. It was still. This was before the dress code. No, this was after. No, that was after. This was after.

Because Chug started it. This was after. This was after. They started it in 06. This was after. Oh, this was 06? Yeah. They started it in 06.

Actually, no. They started it before that. It was when I got in the lead. It was right after. It was right after brawl. It was right after brawl. That was 05. That was 03.

Look up when the dress code came in. So it was 045, right? Yeah, that's my first year in Denver. Yeah, so 045. Yeah, because Chuck was still with the Sixers. 2005. Yeah, Chuck was still in the Sixers. 2005, Sixers season. So when Chuck got to Denver, that's when they put it in, right?

They spent a whole lot of money on clothes, man. No, because we're going into the 05, 06 season. Yeah, so start the 05, 06 season. 05, 06, I was in it. And then what people don't realize, we was, well, I don't know about everybody, but I was pretty much cleaning my closet out every season and starting over, basically. Getting all new shipment in of fucking clothes and shoes and not giving everything. You had certain pieces that was just stable that you really liked.

But for the most part, like, I was shipping my, giving them clothes. They were sending them to Africa. I was giving them good ones. I was, like, all kind of shit. Okay. Like, shoes, like, I kept most of the shoes most of the time, but the shoes didn't go out of style with the clothes. It was only a few people.

Like, on our team, there was only one person, probably two people, one person that started off that was all, like, when the dress code came out, he was just fitted. Like, he was already tailored. Right? It wasn't, he didn't,

it was Juan Dixon. Juan Dixon. Yeah. Shit, he was like, I go to you or get my stuff. Him and then Roger Mason. It was Antoine Walker for us.

For real? Juan, nigga, came in that bitch, tip top, all the way down, nigga. Like,

fitted? Nigga, he wasn't in the baggy he was baggy he was baggy I don't know this nigga was in suits it was suits

but the jacket the jacket was big as shit he had the custom jumps the custom but it still was big though the jacket it looked fitted to him cause he was bigger

you know what I'm saying he was a little bit bigger he was a little bit bigger he was a little bit bigger but uh he gave us that clean look it was like, OK. Even the suits we was wearing.

Even the suits was fucking, because we was all dumb wearing basketball, getting fitted for our clothes and suits with basketball shorts on. Why they fit you? Yes. It was the look. It was never too off. They fucking had it on.

He ain't taking off hoop shorts. You get it. You get it. That's what I'm saying. If you ain't got hoop shorts under your mouth. Fifty-fours. Fifty-fours. Come on, man.

Forty-four. I'm ready to hoop. Forty-four, forty-six. Basketball never stops. I'm at church with basketball shorts underneath. Oh, so that was your reasoning? You never know when you got to grab your pants, put them shorts on and run out the door.

Shit. You got caught. No drawers. There was drawers too. And then it started with the grades and they gave us grades. You know how many pair of grades I had at home? Then I went and didn't go to the doctor.

I'm like, son, what are you playing in? I was like, oh, just hooping these grades. He said, what, are they like compression? I'm like, no, they're not. He was like, son, yeah, I think you should start wearing like compression tights. I was like, say no more. Because this shit I'm dealing with is motherfucking painful right now.

Yeah, you see me dribbling and I keep doing this because I get dick falls. Man, the little holes. I had had box because I used to wear box You wore box Men and shit What's up? I'm Rwan Dixon's I a man listen. I'm gonna go to the store and buy you some drop me you got a briefs No, I mean no draw why what you talking about can't wear boxers the ladies don't like you wearing boxers in the game they want this bit of a juicy one which would have been a

weird one right yeah right hey one day that $511.80. What was he benching? The fuck was this shit? He's throwing cars around and shit. He said it was a mistake. He did a test positive. Test positive, right? Likely from a supplement, according to his wife, back in those days. Taking that motherfucker, that rhino from $711. That rhino, we'll do it.

That old rhino from buying. Different type of steroid. I was just trying to get big here. One night only, man. Just one night. Let's keep this thing moving. So last week we talked about KD clapping back at Dennis Schroeder after Schroeder said,

European basketball is no entertainment. It's straight IQ basketball, straight coaching, and really, really high IQ guys who know how to play the game so Schroeder also said the USA has the best league in the world with the NBA but sent out a warning saying Europeans are coming so as a reminder after Team USA took gold won their fifth straight gold medal KD tweeted this entertainment and IQ which was obviously direct response to Schroeder's comments. Well, Schroeder did a stream recently and addressed KD's tweet saying the following.

He said, they won in Kevin Durant tweets, high IQ and entertainment for me. That's just being weak. You're that type of star and you have to say something to a person like me who not even meant to be negative? It was just what I see from both sides, you know what I'm saying? I didn't appreciate it, I don't care, but at the end of the day, that tweet

or whatever he posted was because of me. For me, it was no negative stuff. I respect all of those guys, all GOATs, but to say that tells me how weak he is as a person. It is what it is. Not everybody is strong. Not everybody is in a good place. So what do y'all think about Schroeder calling KD weak as a person for clapping back at him

about his comments about European basketball players and the style that they play? I mean, he started off wrong. KD wrote entertainment, then IQ. Not IQ, then entertainment. We're just going to correct that. It was entertainment. Get the're just gonna correct that it was entertainment get the could get the quote first entertainment IQ entertainment and I knew he said high Q and entertainment

Now what KD said he just said entertainment and IQ. I mean, it's not You put the statement out there for him to post like like Dennis for him to post. Like, Dennis, if you watch what he said, he did slow it. Like, hold on, before this is taken out of it. Exactly, he tried to. He tried to, right?

There was no malicious behind it, right? And there was no malicious behind KD. KD was just basically saying, we got entertainment and we got IQ on how we won the game. So I don't see how Dennis gets offended by just two words personally. I do. Yeah.

I mean, because it's like kind of condescending. Who's? KD because the moment was Dennis basically giving props to the fact that the U.S. can still go to the top granted that they feel like they play a higher IQ basketball where it's the focus is basketball and IQ and strategy and all that shit and then the entertainment part which is the fame the notoriety money, that doesn't exist over there. I think that's the correlation he was trying to understand, put forth to everybody to see. Like, all right, look, over here it's boring.

The game is boring. It's not entertaining. But we play high IQ basketball. We all play the right way. We all do this type of shit. So I think for KD to say that, of course he's trolling. But, you know, I don't know KD,

I don't know Dennis, I don't know none of these dudes, but when it starts getting personal, you got to kind of separate the maliciousness and the things you was really trying to say. So, I mean, Dennis,

he can feel every way he want to feel, but he got to know KD history. KD got a burner account. Gil, like you pointed out, Schroeder in making those comments was very hesitant, didn't want to be taken out of context and misquoted, but he did say that European basketball players play with a high IQ. Did he say higher or high?

He didn't compare the two. He just said this is what we do. He said European basketball is no entertainment. It's straight IQ basketball, straight coaching, and really, really high IQ guys who know how to play the game. But not everybody. So that's the thing. That's straight IQ basketball straight coaching and really really high IQ guys We know how to play them, but not everybody so that's the thing. That's the same shit is here, right? You got a you got a you can't make that broad statement without

Setting boundaries and differentiating with who you who you talking about right? There are some high IQ guys there as well There's some very high IQ guys. It's playing NBA as well. There are some very high IQ guys that's playing NBA as well. There are some dummies that's playing in Europe as well. They're just fucking talented. There are some dummies that's playing in NBA that's fucking talented, right? So you can't make that. You can, but you got to elaborate. Like, I'm not.

I think he's talking about the systems. But still. European system is about high. But that's not what he said, though. I'm saying, so therefore, if you're going to make that statement, what I was about to say, if you're going to make that statement, then you got to go into more detail. You just can't, you leave people for people like KD, who petty, to respond, right? And now he responds. Now you're in your feelings.

Yeah, which he shouldn't be in his feelings. Right, you shouldn't be, because you made the statement. Somebody, anybody could respond to what you said, right? Him, LeBron, anybody. Curry. Anybody. Within the NBA or not within the NBA could have said the exact same thing. Facts.

Right? So with calling the man weak, you know he's been known for this. So whether you think he weak or not that's it's a person that's his personal that's his personality that's who he is right the only personal shot is really dennis at this point at this point it's it's you are the you're the one that is taking a personal shot because yeah in a sense is when you make the statement in that scenario, you're basically saying the reason you guys win and pull out games, you're smart. Yeah, that's what I, and you don't need all the talent and the entertainment.

Yeah. That's how it came off. Absolutely. Americans are dumb, but they're just more athletic. Yes. And we are the smart basketball human beings that's going on. So when you have somebody who, when you have somebody who has a very high IQ I guarantee when you have not the masses. Hey, you're not the masses. Yeah, I know you know that right?

It's okay. So when you're talking about Yoke age and you're talking about Luca and people like him there, he's saying that our IQ is the reason we can dominate in this and this. They're just athletic and entertainment. We're not the same.

And somebody who has a very high IQ, tweets, entertainment, like you said, and IQ. Because our IQ is what took us over the top. That's all that was.

So to be offended by that, it's like, come on. It ain't nasty. What he was doing was so to be offended by that. It's like come on To the to the international game, but you said evolution But it's a backhanded comment right and what since it's a backhanded comment because you trying to clean up like you're not whoa Whoa, whoa, I don't mean in that way. I Don't want to cross the line by saying that y'all are stupid. I'm saying that we play the game this way over here. And then he's saying this.

The NBA players that are international in the NBA are showing you the way we play basketball. And that's why they're dominant. But it was easier for him to just possibly say, we're more fundamentally sound. the way we play basketball. And that's why they're dominant. But he's made... It was easier for him to just possibly say, we're more fundamentally sound. Boom. I think that was another way of saying that. But it wasn't.

Because if you say fundamentally sound, it's dumbing down the original comment. Because the original comment might have been over everybody's head. No, but you brought people intelligence into it when you said IQ. Right? When you're talking about basketball community.

Yes, yes. The basketball community, high IQ basketball is like this. So you brought people, so that's where the shot comes in. Yes. Y'all don't play. That's where the shot comes in. Yes, yes. Instead of saying fundamentally sound basketball, right?

All right. Y'all right. No, I get you. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all right. No, I get you. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all right. Everybody knows this gym guy. Y'all don't do none of that shit.

Everybody ain't doing it. Fast and cut, screen, back. I get it. It's that. Yeah, absolutely. KD was offended. So they played, the Europeans played a college game at a higher level. At a higher level.

Exactly. Right? That's what it is. It's the college game at the highest level. Yep. So. He's trying to say that that is more efficient than the pro game. When you said IQ, you took shots at people.

Like, that's what it was. So, now if KD come back. After that. And after you didn't say it this now and attack you. You can't do shit, but just take it. Now, he's going to be like, but now it's not KD picking on the little guy.

So he can't win in this moment. As the chat pointed out, they want to know where was Schroeder's IQ when he passed on that four-year, $84 million deal that the Lakers offered him. Now that's a shot. But that is a chat. Gervais, what our chat is saying. I heard it. That's not a shot you take.

That is... That's a personal. That's irrelevant to the context. Yeah, original context. Yeah, but now if KD comes in, now he can. He can. Because he opened the door. You know what I'm saying?

If KD says... If KD says it now... But the public... Well, Shannon said it last night. Oh. Yeah. Shannon went in on... Shannon said it last night.

Obviously, we can talk about it. But you can't take... That's the thing. You can't take it out of the context. His context was about the pure basketball, not IQ of just you as a human being. Because we all know his contract, there's nothing with IQ there. Because obviously your agent is the one who's doing his thing. That's not you reading and doing all this stuff.

And you're making a business decision on are you going to bet on yourself or not. Right. I know some stupid motherfuckers who said yes to 300 million. Right. Motherfucker can't read or write. But yes to this contract. It's no bearing to if he thinks he's worth more. Like I think I'm worth more than that,

so I'm going to bet on myself and finish out the season and see what I get. You know, that has nothing to do with the IQ of the person himself. I'm saying we're a truthful show. We don't sell people bullshit. Right. The truth of the matter, it wasn't, he didn't get offered that contract.

That's what he said. He said he didn't get offered, yeah. He didn't get offered that. It was rumored that he didn't. He didn't get offered that. It was rumored that he was going to do. He didn't get offered 84 and him telling people no. So let's put in the context. But we never fault somebody for betting on themselves. Yeah. Coming off a chip.

We can flip it around and say, Brunson. Yeah. Right? Yeah. If we just take the same context and put it in brunson's contract right is his iq high for signing today when he's worth 200 and something later if he says no today we're gonna be like oh that was a smart move bet on yourself and then if he if he something happens and that contract's not there, and he becomes stupid for the idea, like, you know what I mean? It's, yeah. One thing he should have done is just let it go.

And the fact that he didn't let it go, because it was an empty response. Like, even entertainment and IQ was just like, yeah, we won, though. Yeah, we won. With our entertainment and our IQ. All right, take that. Now, for you to come back on the pod and be like, personal shot, he's weak as a person. Weak as a person. That's sensitive. This generation is cooked shit.

Like, you can't say nothing on the internet no more and respond to somebody's tweet or post without them getting sensitive about what you're saying. Like, I literally troll all day now. Because I know that it triggers you. Now that I know that it triggers you, I'm trolling the fuck out of everybody. You're a master of Twitter. You're a burgeoning superstar. I'm a burgeon.

I've just seen the timeline flooded with Rashad trolling. And it's funny because I know you and I see how people respond. And I know you're just fucking with them. But that's what Twitter is. I love it. Everybody thinks they're right. But I can see the sensitivity in everyone now and it's like we can't even have joke like

that's a joke for KD. And everybody I think at the team laughed. Everybody was like yeah that's some funny shit. Got them. But then for him to do that everybody like hey Dennis what the fuck is you on? It's like a told you so moment. You know what I mean? Because if they did lose and France won,

it went different. Your comment gets jumped up. It's like, yeah, I told you so. And you'll likely be crowning team Jose for a win. Yeah, you'll be the hero when you have the smart comment about it. It's just y'all both put your comments out and then one went higher because they won That's that's it. I mean it's part of the game. So let's he's more popular than you

Dennis take the LD but let's shift this so we've seen guys like Draymond Green Pat They'll point out that a lot of guys in the league don't have a high IQ you even know guys on this couch Who says a lot of dumb motherfuckers in the league? Quote unquote, but it's. It's 450 NBA players. Yeah, so... Some of them are shit. But I feel like at the highest level, the star level, you got a lot of high-IQ basketball players,

KD, LeBron, Steph, those type of guys. Elites. Yeah, very intelligent. Elite at what they do. So, question for you guys. How important is having a high basketball IQ versus having talent athleticism? Like, how far can just having a high basketball IQ get you in the league

if you don't possess those other things? With this question, how far off are we on the Ant-Man conversation? He's talking about the skill level, Michael Jordan. Are we talking about that today? No. So just in reference to that. Yeah. The skill set.

Well, Ant-Man said that Jordan and Kobe was probably the only skilled players in the eras before him, and everybody else was just out there. And so he's basically saying this era now, we got just as much skill as them. So to me it's... What was the question again? So for me, how important is having a high basketball IQ

versus having talent athletics? Yeah, so the IQ level is very important, right? Because the talent that you bring into the league is what we see in is an influx of a bunch of hyper-talented players that don't know how to play the game. And so you look at skill set. What is a skill compared to a talent? And you can go on 2K and see the difference between the athleticism and the badges and

then the skills. So I think when we start honing in on what's what between the two, we will see that there's a bunch of talented players in the NBA, but then there's a small amount of fucking high IQ guys, savvy, know how to move without the ball, know how to play together, know how to play defense, know how to communicate. All of those things are high IQ things that are lost in our game right now and only there for a couple teams. Is he on a topic that we don't know about?

Hmm? What was the question? Because I know what I'm saying he's answering something because I don't know what the Jordan stuff was. Is he answering something?

So, Ant, both of you, Connor. I'll read you the Ant quote first to help establish context. Is that the same context as what you asked? Yeah. Or would you have skill?

We'll get to it. So, Ant said, I didn't watch it back in the day so I can't speak on it. They say it was tougher back then than it is now, but I don't think anybody had skill back then. Michael Jordan was the only one that really had skill, you know what I mean? So that's why when they saw Kobe, they were like, oh my God, but now everybody has skill.

Okay, now what was your question? So the question was, how important is having a high basketball IQ versus talent athleticism. So that means we're taking just a skillful person that has no IQ and a high IQ person that has no skill. That has a limited amount of skill, athleticism, talent. So you're going to have to name somebody.

Because if we put in our brains... Okay, so Boris D.L. High IQ guy. High IQ guy. Very low talent. Versus now a talented guy like who? We have to go somebody who's not playing. Yes.

Not playing no more? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go somebody who's not playing no more. Who would you guys pick? Would you not call Sean Campbell high IQ? So he fits. He's super athletic. Boris Diaw fits like the bottom line Sean Campbell high IQ so he fits super athletic like the bottom line of very high

IQ but so like Ryan not Anderson Ryan Anderson no no Birdman Kyle Anderson so Kyle Anderson or Birdman fits ooh I'm taking Birdman

at that point you probably take the most athletic person then. Because you can just put them out there. But remember, so you're saying high IQ versus skill? Yeah, because you have to- You're saying boards versus birdman? Yeah. What skills does birdman got? Athleticism.

Athleticism. But we're talking about athleticism, not skill. We're talking about athleticism, right? You talking about talent? He said athleticism, so he put me people to do just Raw natural raw athletic They don't really they they just out there just say horus running jumping in Duncan. Yeah, that's Boris all day. Um versus Cuz I'm trying to think I don't want to offend nobody

Yeah, see when you're on the bottom end when you're on the bottom end of it, JaVale McGee, but see, that's what I said. If you're on the bottom end of it, I will take the JaVale McGee because I can teach him, I can teach him how to be fundamentally sound. The Anderson, you can't give him athleticism.

You can't give him athleticism. Right, so he's stuck at that part. We can't go to the extreme of a Michael Jordan who has both. Yeah. Right? You can't do these things. LeBron, you can't do both. That's a good point. Right?

So we're on the bottom. But if you put him out there, if you use the Kyle Anderson example, you put him out there, you know he's going to make smart basketball plays. He's going to make smart basketball plays. But if I need you to be athletic. Yeah, that's a discrepancy. I need you to be athletic. Yeah, that's a discrepancy. I need you to get a rebound. When and if I ever need you to be athletic, you can't give it to me. Because you can box out, though.

And then the problem with that is, let's say I have Ryan Anderson. I mean, I have Birdman out there. No matter who you put out there with Birdman, his talent to show. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Very high IQ player. you put out there with Birdman, his talent to show. Very high IQ player, you put him out there with a whole bunch of dummies, he looks stupid too. Yeah, facts.

Right? Because he's going to be doing something where he thinks you're smart enough to know. He could be dead right in the road and look crazy. Because he didn't switch it. I go to you and I know you're supposed to backdoor because your man is over here. And I do it. Out of bounds. You motherfucking come try to do a handoff.

Out of bounds. Out of bounds. The pass wasn't close. And you look even crazier because you're throwing it out of bounds. Yeah, that's what I said. So it's like being a genius in front with a whole bunch of dummies. Smartest man in the world often feels dumb.

Because they think you're stupid for the shit you're saying. Do you have to adjust your IQ to match the level of the talent that you're playing with? See, they got the worst job. I know this is the right basketball decision, but if I do this, he's going to fuck it up. He got the worst job.

Well, not this point guard. Most point guards got cuz he just gonna shoot Somebody like so just say like somebody like Chauncey, right? Mm-hmm. It frustrates him. Yeah, right And it should. Because you cerebral, you thinking the game. I'm saying you think the game as well, but it's in a different

mindset than what Chauncey will think the game. Yeah. Both of y'all high IQ guys, but it's a different. You're just using it different. You're just using it

different. Yeah. Me and Chauncey have into the conversation when we play this, we're like, yo, man, what the fuck was like?

All right. We both sitting there fuck was, like... Alright. We both sitting there motherfuckers, like... Imagine playing overseas. Like, when I went to New York, like, it was like, somebody told me, listen, man, you're going to drive yourself crazy if you keep talking to him. Really good player, too, like,

yo. Leave him alone. You're going to drive yourself crazy if you keep talking to him. Because, you know me, I'm trying to help. If I see something, you know, if I'm on the floor or not, hey, brother, if you're here, you need to do this, da-da-da-da-da. It's like four games in. What year? No.

What's so funny is I can just go to the team and be like, this nigga right here. It was him. It was him. For sure. It was him. It was him. For sure. It was him. 12-13, 12-13. Watch, watch.

Don't say no name. I'm not going to say no name. I'm going to argue. It's like, like, damn. Wow. When you start thinking back, like, the work that's been, I'm like, yo, this motherfucker fucking retarded, man. Bro, you lose your shit overseas.

Oh, yeah, but then you sit in the locker room, have conversations with the motherfucker, and you like... He don't get it. Oh, this motherfucker ain't here, man. Mm-mm, he don't get it. He don't get it. Imagine with a whole team of them motherfuckers that speak a different language.

They speak a different language. They're like, what, bro? I'm watching the show Suits, right? What, bro? I'm watching the show Suits, and the dude, like, asked, the dude yesterday, he asked, like, how did he get through law school? Right? Because in life, he's clueless. Yep. But, like, how did he get through law school?

Like, it's one of them situations. Like, you are fucking lost in life if it wasn't for this. Like, I reference, like, my son all the time, right? Thank God you are handsome and athletic. Yo, all the time. Bruh, because some shit, like, KJ, don't repeat that to nobody else, dog. Yo, I love you dearly. Hey, man, don't repeat that to nobody else, dog. Yo, I love you dearly. Hey, man, don't do that to KJ, man.

I love you to death. Don't do that to little KJ. He's very intelligent, but some of the shit that come out of his mouth sometimes. Hey, man, what the fuck did you just say? Like, yo, me and my mom both look at each other like, hey, man, don't say that to nobody else. Don't go outside the house. Don't you do that. I love you dearly.

But, Dad, but, Dad, what you mean? Yeah, and he'll laugh with me when he's saying it. He'll be like, yeah, you, yeah. Don't you, dear. But, Dad, what you mean? Yeah, and he'll laugh with him when he's saying it. He'll be like, yeah, you... Don't you repeat that. See, the only problem with that question is you're naturally going to pick the guy with the high IQ, not realizing for that guy to be functional, you have to have four of them.

Yes. Great point. Right? And that's the problem with when because i'm pretty sure just like if you just let people just naturally say who would you rather have straight talent right raw talent or iq you're gonna pick iq because it's smart yeah not realizing your team now has to be a smart thinkers just like if not you have no you have you can't do nothing yeah right i can put a bunch of dummies out there and say hey, here's a ball put this ball in that basket

Hey, and then the team that's coming this way with the other color stop them from putting it in your basket Okay Now you see now you put the smartest dude with them. He will have a horrible go at it Like yo, okay coach. they don't know nothing here. But, hey, it is still a teaching point for that guy to show them what he knows. So if they do get it, it's going to take time. It's going to take some time.

You're going to drive yourself crazy if you keep talking to them. But at some point, that switch is going to hit. How do you know that? Tell us. Because after a while, if you keep pushing this shit, hey, listen, I need you to do this. And then you start penalizing him for it.

Like, take his ass out. Yeah, put the other dummy in. Put the other dummy in. Yeah. Hey, you see how y'all dumb motherfuckers is doing the same dumb shit? I need you not to do that shit. We're going to win.

Well, my college, listen, we used to walk down there and say, like, if he had to play you cuz you fucked up But you were doing something he'll come down and say you the reason I got to play this Yeah straight up Yeah, you the reason he in the game and I gotta watch this shit cuz you couldn't take your dumb ass to class motherfucker In college and in high school right a high school teacher, right?

It's frustrating sometimes Mm-hmm. When you got some kids in there that just ain't they just can't get in college Everybody everybody there for the most part has graduated from dumbness But but even them But for the most part when you when you're dealing with a whole bunch of high IQ, it's easier for you. Yeah. Right? But you have to have a whole bunch of them.

If not, you're in trouble. You got to be more than, yeah. You got to be 12. You got to be 8 or 9. That's on the good side of that thing. Like a Princeton offense. Yeah. You can't have two very high IQ dudes and three dummies.

Oh, yeah. You'd be near that. Oh, yeah. It becomes five dummies at one point where it just comes two on five. Them niggas are like, no, we don't know. They're going to be running low post. They're going to be running low post. You're going to look like Denver.

It's just Murray and Jokic. The rest of y'all motherfuckers just corner dunker. Corner dunker. Corner doger. Corner, dunker. Corner, doghouse. Corner, corner, dunker. Hey, hey. You got everybody like, hey, man, that's fine playing with these.

We ain't got to do nothing. Nothing. Yeah, the offense is made for y'all not to do nothing. Sit your ass in the corner. Sit your ass in the corner. Be ready. And they wonder why James Horan and Luka play the same way. Yeah, everybody else is, let's say, they don't pick up the plays as easy.

So we're just going to give him the ball, and then we're just going to tell him, just do anything you can possibly do to help us win. Let's go to the ball. Do whatever. They look at James Harden like he don't play no offense. It's not him. All right?

The coach just figured out is if you put him in the corner Him in that corner him right there and say James just do whatever they do Hey, if you get the ball shoot it if you get the ball shoot it. All right, fuck it. Come on. Give it back. Give it back. Ha! Come on. Ha! Whoo! Ha!

Yeah! Good job, coach! Good job! I did it. I did it. I did it. The third one is boom, boom. The lob.

The lob. The lob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go get it, big fella. They said they penalized the James hard because he got a bunch of dummy asses with him. The James out there, motherfucker, dream, that bitch, 37 times a possession. Ball mad at him. The nigga's like,

God damn, how many times you gonna punch me? He's sitting there, he's sitting there, like, God damn, coach, give me a team.

All right, let's keep it moving. So we talked about KD clapping back at Schroeder. Kevin Durant developed a reputation for engaging with fans' infos on social media,

clapping back at haters no matter the time of day. We saw this during the Olympics when he went at a Yo Kitchen Nuggets fan, questioning his allegiance to America at 5 a.m. Paris time. The rest of the world, the rest of the friends were sleeping. KD's up getting these tweets off.

So KD and Ant-Man did a sit-down interview with Jalen Rose at Fanatics Fest in New York City this weekend, where Durant discussed his approach to social media. Yeah, the whole point of social media is to interact with people, right? So you follow me for a chance to maybe interact with me. So it depends on how I feel, I'm going to interact. And if you troll, I'm going to troll back.

If you show love, I'm going to show love back. So I try to reciprocate energy as much as possible to give people more of an in-depth I'm going to show love back. If you show love, I'm going to show love back. So I try to reciprocate energy as much as possible to give people more of an in-depth experience of who I am. So does KD deserve more respect for actually engaging with fans on social media? You see a lot of athletes don't really touch it, don't ever clap back at people or reciprocate the energy. And when fans are positive, he's positive with them.

Obviously, when people come at him, no matter who you are, how big or small your following may be. Yeah, hey. Ain't no problem with it. Love is love. Hate is hate. He was, he, he. If you got time, you got time.

He accepts it all accordingly, and hey. I'm just an advocate of of if you push it out, you gotta be able to take it, man. Don't be out there, ah, man, you can say this and we can't say this. Yeah. Well, that happens a lot. They'll say some crazy stuff to y'all and be like,

oh, look, can't you respond to me? Why'd you waste your time talking? Well, because I saw it. It's like the him and Michael Rapaport shit, right? Mm-hmm. No, Mike, don't run now to the people. Don't run now. Don't run now and bitch and complain

because this man had something to say to you. Like, that shit was, like... So, no, yeah, don't throw rocks and hide your hands. But that's the era of social media, right? I slap you, and then as soon as you come back and slap me back, I'm telling, look. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh,

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Don't come to my page and then complain about what's on it. First of all, it's free, right? It's free. You don't have to come to this motherfucker platform at all. You can pick whoever you want, right? If you want Jesus, there's some Jesus shit out there. You want biggity black, you want super black, you want Jesus there's some Jesus shit out there you won't biggity black you want super black you can go there Whatever you want in life. You got a channel to follow

The whole page smell like afro sheen Do not come. I do got some bad for this. Do not come to my page and try to make me feel bad for being no chill. Yeah. Right. And that and that

becomes the problem with you. You think he's supposed to be supposed to conform to time NBA champion. Right.

That part scoring title. You think he's supposed to be that? That's him on the court. When he's here on social media, he's entertainment just like you are. If you say fuck you and your mama and he says the

same thing, you cannot run to the media outlets saying he talked about your mama. And my daddy. Guess what's happening. We looking at people finding out that their favorite stars are actually niggas. Regular people? Yeah.

No, they're fucking people. No, because when I found out Michael Jordan was a nigga, was in layup lines at Jordan camp, and he said some crazy, I was like, ain't no way he just cussed. Ain't no way he just cussed. Michael Jordan just cussed? Cole did some shit that made him down to the earth. It was like, damn, Cole

a nigga too. Oh, shit. KD. Shit, KD. Yeah, he one of them. He got time. Yeah, he from there. He from over there with them. He grew up on knowing, I say whatever I want. What's up? I'll scramble with you.

You want to squabble? What's up? Cool. But a lot of people just don't got that. They don't got that type of energy, man. I look for that kind of conversation when people want to actually go back and forth. Like, what's up? I got time today. For sure.

It usually devolves, right? Yeah, but people, like, to Gil's point and to what you're saying also, sir. Like, people think that's going to be the narrative. They're going to get theirs off and it's going to be that. I said this to... I was at a fight here at Staples. It was Staples-Edge-Crypto now.

Me and one of my partners, minding my business, man. Dude, obviously a Laker fan, come up. Oh, that's why Kobe kicked y'all ass. It just. Random. Out of nowhere? Out the blue. Not to Kenya. Not to Kenya. No way.

And had a couple too. I'd imagine this person had a couple as well. I don't know what it was. Whatever it was. They don't need no courage. They just thought that was going to be the narrative. But then you catch the ignorant side of me when I'm trying to enjoy myself and I'm not thinking about that Now you get that person. Mm-hmm. Now you shocked what come out of my mouth. Yes. Now you now you appalled

Everybody around me looking at me like I'm an asshole. No, I wasn't buying. I was minding my business, man. That's the same thing. Fans think because we're accessible that they can do and say whatever when they get the opportunity to see it because they don't see us all the time. So most of the time it's love, absolutely. But you have those few people that think they finna set the narrative with us. Kevin Durant, whether he's troll or whatever, he's confrontational.

Whether it's on Twitter, he's confrontational. Leave him alone. Leave him alone. Because he's going to respond. Yes, he is. Right? But they want... No, they don't.

No, they do. To a certain... They don't want want. No, they don't. No, they do. To a certain. They don't want the attention. They don't want the attention. They don't want the, trust me. No, but.

They think that's going to be the narrative and he's going to skim right over it, right? No, they do. I said this to KD and he like. He responded. No, no. He responded. This is all I see now, right? They're coming to DM, talk reckless.

Crazy as fuck. Right? Crazy. I go back reckless. They posted'll come in the DM, talk reckless. Crazy as fuck. I go back reckless. They post it in their story. Look, he talking to me. Or they report you. You the idiot talking to me. Or they report you. Or they report you.

Personally, I don't give a fuck if you post. I hope you keep posting it, bitch. You got 100 people on your page. I want those 100. I need 100. I need that 100. I'm dealing with it. You was a real hustler.

I'm dealing with it with i don't give a fuck why you here no welcome click some shit like some shit thumb down some shit hey i don't care long as you here i do not give a five one of those people i don't care what you're saying to me don't hurt if you're saying it you're saying it right you tell me fuck you you said this about them fuck your back now go post the shit tell them me, fuck you. You said this about them. Fuck your back. Now go post this shit. Tell them I said, fuck you.

Then they can come in here and say, why'd you say that? She was pregnant. I don't give a fuck about she was pregnant. She pregnant. Fuck her ass, baby. She's going to be single. She's going to be a single mother anyway. Fuck her ass.

All right? Now you post that, right? Post that. I don't care. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you just doing it for clicks and likes. Same as you. Same as you.

What are you doing here? Welcome to social media. What are you doing here, nigga? We both doing the same shit. You called my baby ugly. Well. He is kind of. He look like his daddy.

He look like his daddy. He got to look like his daddy, right? Little big mole head, yo. Look like his grandfather right now. I'm saying the same shit your cousins and your uncles saying. Look like the grandfather right now. He's on two minutes. He's on two minutes.

He's on two minutes. He's on two minutes. He's on two minutes. He's on two minutes. He's on two minutes. He's on to look like his dad, right? A little big forehead, yo. Look like his grandfather right now. I'm saying the same shit your cousins and your uncles said. Look like the grandfather right now. He's, like, two years old. He's not supposed to look 99. Just get mad at me because I'm saying shit you already know of. Yeah, no.

Like, they really think they're going to set the narrative, man, and that just ain't it, right? It's just not it. Before you go, the psychology class they teach you, when people are poking at you, it's because they've heard a narrative about you. So in order to prove that narrative right, if they heard,

oh, you're an asshole and you're hard to deal with, the first thing I'm going to do to you, never met you before or anything, I'm going to see if that narrative is true. I'm going to poke at you to see if you respond the way I heard you respond. Now, psychologically, I have to figure out, like, are you trying to push my buttons,

my nigga? Why? Well, they said you was a bad guy. I'm going to shake your hand, and we're going to get some lunch, and you're going to go tell them I'm a good guy. Because if you don't do that, I'm going to have to turn it up, and I'll have to prove you right. I don't want to prove you right. And that's what the trap that everybody falls into is a psychological trap.

I heard you was this type of dude. This hit KD. We know if we say some crazy shit to him, he's going to say some crazy shit back. We can go viral. That's all. We can go viral together. But the thing about social, you talk about the mentality. When people see that and they think that there's a chance that Canyon or KD or Rashad or Gil you respond to them now

They really start testing the fence like Jurassic Park. Let me see how low I can go. Thanks That's why I just hate when I just hate when the workplace gets involved That's the only thing I don't like that. Like I didn't like the the the rapid port deal where Katie got Katie gets attacked. he responds you find him crazy Yeah, like I'm pretty sure he's all I don't give a fuck about the fun But the person who attacked me he doesn't get fine like his job should be able to well if they find him I should be able to find you if not no one gets fine. You can't you can't you gotta like we always in society we attacked We always, in society, we attack the responder.

Yeah. Now, we go after the responder, not the person causing the problem. Right? If you penalize the causer of the problem, there's no response. Right. Right? If I'm sitting there fucking with you, ha, ha, ha, and you slap the shit out of me. Yeah.

Right? Boom. Oh, shit. You can't play victim. Where my lawyer at? We suing. He hit me. Now, I beat shit out of me. Right? Boom! Oh, shit. You can't play victim. Where my lawyer at? We suing. He hit me. Now I beat you out of money.

You can't do that. That should be illegal. It's a fade. It's called fade. I should not be allowed to, like, I'm antagonizing you knowing that at some point

you're going to hit me. Now I get bankroll. And that's what they do. Penalties should always get the first person. If you didn't do this, he wouldn't have hit you. We're going to penalize you first. Penalize the person first, not the person who responds. If I shoot you, I'm brainless.

If you shoot me, you famous. What's a nigga to do? Streets is watching. Shout out Jigga. So we asked the chat, does KD's social media deserve respect? 78% say yes. So, okay.

Chat, good today. Chat in a good mood. Yeah, on this. While they're in the process of trolling KD. So bring me my next question just in terms of social media and sports. Players and fans having direct access to each other, is that good or bad for the league?

Players and fans having direct access? Yeah, be able to have now, you can now go to your favorite player, say something to them, and they very well may respond. Like back in the day, that wasn't a problem. You had some shit to say to MJ, you're going to have to try and get

as close to the court as possible. Or mail him a letter. For the NBA, they should create their own social media network within the NBA.com aspect where the actual players can be on there engaging with the fans instead of in that open network or social media, Instagram, Twitter, all those things, because it becomes condolented and personal where you can't really filter it out. On the site for the NBA, if you actually had players available to interact with the actual fans

on the site, it creates an NBA community where there ain't no room for that bullshit. You can't come in here with that bullshit without us getting you out of here. This is a friendly family place where we want good, encourageable dialogue

between all our players and our fans. I don't know why the NBA hasn't done it or created some type of social media, social network inside of there, but it's the one thing that's missing because everything's going to get messy. It's going to continue to get messy. See, I like the unfiltered open air.

Yeah. Right? Because there's so many different personalities that's out there that someone like Joel Embiid gets to live. Right? His pages would be considered diluted. It's safe. Now, if you're in a controlled environment, right? If you're in a controlled environment, it's NBA and everything is check balances, he becomes

a bad guy. He was already started the bad guy. Yeah. He started the bad guy until everyone else started tweeting him like, oh shit, that's even worse. That shit even worse. Because everyone's done topped each other, the ceiling is so high for someone to come in and be like,

the stuff he's saying is just horrible right just like You know Charles Barkley he's done pushed the limit so high for being an ex-athlete that the stuff we say now is Pretty normal. Yeah, right, so you need you need You can't can't be controlled. I don't like the control because once, you know, someone like the NBA, they're going to control it to, it's going to be to the Steph Currys to the point. It's going to be that language, right? You know what I mean? Kawhi.

Right. I'm saying. You got to be perfect. Like, they already got, like, Cameo, Passes, all of these different apps that allow exclusive engagement, right? All I'm saying is the NBA don't have exclusive engagement as a community socially where it's just for this, right? So even an open framework is cool because I'm saying throughout the whole thing. Throughout the whole thing. But think about it.

If you're an athlete, you don't want to be on an athlete platform, right? Like you get sick and tired. Like, oh, fuck that basketball shit. I want to talk about other shit, right? Like, you get sick and tired, like, I don't want to fuck that basketball shit. I want to talk about other shit, right? And that's where this is. This is just with the fans. This is all for fan engagement. So everything you can do,

you can still do it in an open network. Talk about whatever you want over here. Just know what backlash you're going to get with it. But when you're in here, man, you ain't got to worry about none of the bullshit. KD ain't never got to worry about this because we know who in here. We know who's saying shit. We know what

they mean. We know they here for good intentions. Everything on the outside, that's what we dealing with now. We trying to filter. Yeah, you can't baby. No more babying, man. Let them... What era is this? Let them go out there into the real world. What we doing? Are we burping babies

or not? Are we burping babies or not? These motherf burping babies or not? These motherfuckers is 22, 23 years old. They don't know how to control their fucking... None of they... They just sensitive. Their emotions just go crazy. Yeah. We are in a social media world,

but let's keep it moving. So getting to witness LeBron and Steph on the same squad at this Olympics left many wondering what the duo would look like as teammates in the league. Well, it almost happened this past season as the Warriors and Lakers were engaged in talk centered around LeBron leading up to the trade deadline. Draymond Green was actively recruiting LeBron to the to the Warriors largely because he wanted to insulate James from potential backlash over switching teams

for the fourth time in his career. So when you hear that, what's your reaction to Rich Paul reportedly shutting down LeBron's trade to the Warriors to protect his legacy? Sean, I see you. Listen, go ahead, man. No, you go ahead. Go ahead, man. No, you go ahead. Go ahead, bro.

Go ahead. Go ahead, bro. I get the, as an agent, or him as an agent, I get that he's trying to protect the image as much as possible, but at the end of the day, four times, one time, two times, the narrative is already pushed. Right? So there's really nothing. Like, for the most part, him, KD,

your ideas is already pushed, so you it don't matter. It don't matter. Nothing's going to change. Exactly. Mr. Martin. If LeBron wanted to go to Golden State, you don't fucking think he would have went to Golden State? Rich Paul, there's nothing that fucking Rich Paul could have said or done. If LeBron James wake up tomorrow morning and be like,

you know what, fuck this shit. I want to go to Golden State. Where do you think LeBron James is fucking going, man? He's going wherever the fuck he wants to. And nothing, nobody can say about it. Like, ooh, that's a great story that you leaked. Like, oh, he stopped the trade. Stop the bullshit, man.

You stopped LeBron from going to the Warriors. Who wrote that? Coming from Mark Stein. Come on, let's, what the fuck ever, man. Like, let's stop it. Like, it's one of these situations. You got to protect his legacy. Wasn't that the story when it happened?

No. There was rumblings about it a few months ago, I think, about the potential. It didn't get, those talks didn't get fought. Dig into it, though. Nah, you gotta go. I hear you going somewhere with this thing. Why is that important, though? Because he is him. Like, he does what the fuck he wants to. He runs, like,

if he wanted to go to the fucking Washington Wizards, he could have went. Wherever LeBron James wanted to go, he can go. So why did they put this out? You're saying Mark Sine may just make it up? I think it's some bullshit, to be honest. To be blatantly honest, I think it's some bullshit. What would be the benefit for putting it out? Is it some clicks?

Is it Mark or is it Rich? Rich has to clear that for him to use his name and be like, yo, I said that. No, he don't. I said that. Or just deny the report. He can deny the report. He can say, I never said that like he did with Stephen A. Smith. I ain't say that.

But if that's the case, just like with the Bronny thing. If y'all draft Bronny, he's going to Australia. Listen, he probably could have said those things, absolutely, yes. Rich Paul could have said all of those things. I want to protect his legacy, this, that, and the third, whatever, whatever. He didn't stop the shit is what I'm saying. Right. Okay.

It's like he could have, yes, I'm trying to protect LeBron's legacy, him going to the fourth team, this, that, and the third. I'm afraid of how it might look in the media. All of those things, this, that, and the third. I'm afraid of how it might look in the media. All of those things, yes. Absolutely yes. He didn't stop shit. So he didn't say no. He could have said no.

No, he could have said, listen, he can say no. Fuck yes. No, LeBron, you can't. Who runs this? LeBron. So therefore, it do what the fuck I say do. Right. You work, listen. This is what people don't understand about agents.

I don't know if the world know this or not. The agent works for the fucking player, not the other way around. Period. So you do what the fuck I say do. You spin records. That's what you do. Records.

God damn it. Blue, don't make me raise up from here. Spin that record. That's what, like, don't do that. People don't understand that the agents don't have control. A lot of players don't understand that. You work for me. I think, like, wait a minute.

This came after what we did last week then. When we were talking about the idea. It came the day after. The picture.

When we was like, oh, we said they should play together. I just thought about the New York Knicks. They posted the picture of all three of them,

but they put a Las Vegas uniform on and said they was going to buy the team in Vegas. That's what the fuck they did. Listen,

dawg. I'm going to be like, when did this happen? This was a story when it first happened. No, it might have been the same day we said it. Damn sure the next day.

Hold on. They had them in a Las Vegas uniform. When did the Vegas thing supposed to go through? You know what I'm saying? It should be on the horizon soon now that the TV deal

is expanding. They had them in a Las Vegas uniform. They had them in the Vegas uniform. When is he coming out? Two years from now. 2026. Brian got a three-year deal.

He got two years. Two-year deal. But he can opt now. KD is how much left on KD's? It is two more years. Line it up. Do I have to J.J. Riddick this thing? No, but what I'm saying is.

Do I have to J.J. Riddick this thing? It's two years out. But they're looking for him. this thing? No, but what I'm saying is... Do I have to J.J. finish this thing? It's two years out! But I'm saying, we propose, like, when we said that, right, that they should team up, you know, and just go get their championship, let everybody see the greatness, because we got to see it in the Olympics. Let these great players play together,

right? And then now, oh, LeBron James and Steph almost teamed up, and you know, they vetoed it because they didn't want LeBron going to the fourth year. And that's why I started off like him being him going to three different places. They had a problem. Make it four.

Who gives a fuck? The media ain't going to change. They're not going to change the people who don't like LeBron. It's just one more thing you get to add to why you don't like him. Right. It doesn't change anything. There's no one going to say, oh, man, you if you go there, we're going to bump you don't like them. Yes. Right? It doesn't change anything. Right? There's no one's going to say, oh, man, if you go there, we're going to bump you to three.

We're going to bump you to four. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it every time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Every move you make that ain't got nothing to do with game or bad, you just doing shit for the sake of fucking entertainment, you get bumped down two notches. That's what I said.

Two notches. If you go to another team, you don to turn this shit into a circus, man. What's wrong with exploring? So what was the match of this? So would it have been the same report if they were trying to get Steph to go play for the Lakers? Okay, we've been trying for years to make that happen. Unsuccessfully, I may have. I know you have.

I think it looks more realistic, LeBron going to the Warriors rather than him going to the Lakers. You know, I'm having a problem with narratives. And I think I put it in the group chat. We give credit to the people who stayed home, right? Like I was saying, Steph Legacy, we get to use four championships, right? For his legacy.

KD was part of two of those, but he don't get his credit for those two, right? So we don't say, credit for those two. Right? So we don't say, yeah, you get to cement your legacy because you have two rings. We say, oh, you left and you went over here. Well, you're giving him credit for the two that I helped him get. Who's not giving him credit? Everybody.

Nobody. Just like with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, Kobe, Bird, they all get credit for the championships because they stayed home. Now, anybody who left to go get championships, you discredit them. But you don't discredit. The two that you don't discredit for Jordan.

People coming to him, those stars that left their teams. You just say Jordan got six championships. I don't think it's a discredit, though. Right? Dennis Rodman went there, helped them get three. Ron Harper helped them get three. Hollywood Harper. But you had people leaving their cities, stars leaving

their cities, going there winning to help that star. So if a star wants to leave because no one's coming here and I want to go and team up and we win, how am I getting discredit because I left? because you was a king it don't matter it do because you're not a king no more you you actually demoted yourself to go over here and be a part of somebody else's does the king get demoted if he screams for help no I lost Horace Grant can you get me somebody oh we got Dennis Rodman for you. No.

You don't get demoted. My thing was, the whole thing was, I think what made people that left the sour taste in people's mouth was the fact that they, that was the team

that they just played. Yes. With, right? And you lost. And you lost. But they were up, though. 3-1 lead. They threw up 3-1.

I think that was the, the thing that did it. If they didn't play them in the playoffs and him going there, it wouldn't have been a big of a deal. But the fact that they played them, lost to them, they're like, fuck, you can't beat them, then we might as well join them. Okay, but now the reality is, how come that group... He gets credit for...

How come the group itself don't have a... No one talks about Golden State losing to LeBron, then adding Kevin Durant. No one looks at it that way. You lost to LeBron James. 3-1. Same shit. 3-1, And then you asked for

Kevin, can you come help us? He asked for him? Yes. Draymond, they called Kevin Durant. I think it was a mutual decision. No, they called. I know they called, but he wanted to listen. Come on. No, he wanted out. He was leaving.

They called. Come on, it's like when you ain't married, you got a girlfriend, you get that text message from you. You're like, hey, what you doing? Hey, big head. What you doing? Hey, boo. What you going to do?

It's like that. You're on the fence about some shit. You're going, hey, man. You going to die for it? You know, they pulled up on KD and the Hamptons. But that's what I'm saying. How do you go 73-9, lose 3-1, bring on the number one scorer... Yeah, because it's easier...

...and the number two player in the NBA, you bring them on your team, and nobody looks at y'all. Yeah, because it's easier to point a shot at him than it is them. Them. Right? It's easier to pick him out than the group because they have a really likable guy over here. See, and that's why I say it's the narrative. KD was the king.

KD was the king at OKC. And no matter what happens inside of my kingdom, I'm not leaving my post. I'm not leaving my post. So the fact that he was like, you know what? This motherfucker's burning down. Let me pack my shit, and I'm going over here with them. No, it wasn't burning down. It is burning down.

You up 3-1, and you lose. No, but it wasn't burning down. It is burning down. You up 3-1 and you lose. No, but it wasn't burning down. Okay, then the team that goes, they lost 3-1 and asked for help. It wasn't burning down. So he goes over here because... You felt that you were king and you got a motherfucker over there kicking your back end, right? Trying to be a king, too. And as soon as you leave, he's like, now it's my shit.

But how do you... But then I go over here with the... Then you got to play fiddle. Huh? No. But who's playing the man? But what I'm saying is... That was Kevin Durant, Steve.

But he's... Steph is still the king. But it don't... How are you... But that's what I'm saying. How are you giving credit to the people that's asking for help? Steph was the king's hand.

Steph wasn't asking for help. They got beat by... We just went 73-9. I wasn't asking for nothing. 73-9, you got... You're lost to the real king. And then you guys need help. We just went 73-9. 73-9, you lost to the real king. And then you guys need help. But we beat them already. You didn't. We had beat

them before that. You beat them without winning. We beat them. Because the soldiers got hurt. Don't matter. You're using an excuse. Don't do that. You can't say you're a king and you lost. I'm not using no excuses, though. I'm not saying nobody was injured and all this. This is the narrative. Tell me what the narrative is.

You're 73-9. You're the number one team. You beat. So they broke the record. So they broke the bull's eye. So the thing, so it's easier to blame Kevin Durant in this situation.

You got to find a villain in this situation. At that point, because it's who they played, just lost to, and the team he went to, he was low-hanging fruit for media. They talked about them blowing a 3-1 lead for a little bit, but then Kevin Durant going there. Saved him. It saved it.

Now it's easier for them to be like, damn, he just lost to them. Why the fuck he joining them? But y'all saying that was not in the narrative too. Reality. It started in the narrative too. No. This is reality.

Because you're not giving credit to the guys who beat the Cavs team before Kevin Durant got there. I know you're not. I'm talking about the 73 and 9. You're not giving Kevin Durant credit for that. No, he got credit for that. Okay, so he got credit. Yes. So we beat them already.

Yes. So then. Without Kyrie and Kevin Love. That's the credit. Boom. So now here you go. 73 and 9. 73 and 9.

With no Kevin Durant. With no Kevin Durant, they lose. Now, granted, it's a choke. But granted, this shit happens. You lost. So next year, we need to recalibrate to get past them. I'm glad you said it. Not get past the line.

I'm glad you said it. Get past who? Golden State trying to get past OKC. They already did. Right. So OKC changes. Kevin Durant goes to get past OKC. They already did. Right. So OKC changes. Kevin Durant goes to... I'm glad you said that, right?

Kevin Durant goes to the Warriors. Yeah. They had to do what? What word did you just use? Yeah. They lost to the King, and they got to do what now? So what word did you just use? Recalibrate?

Yes. Yes. So are you supposed to match this? Are they supposed to come back with the same team, or are they supposed to get better next? Same team. Okay. So you're not supposed to get better? They don't need a Kevin Durant.

Okay. They don't need him. Okay. Perfect. They don't need him. I agree with you. Yes. Me, we both agree.

I'm just saying, need to replace him. We both agree with you. Need to replace him. But I have said on record that they did need him, so I'm willing to go back. But no, no, no, no, no, no. They did say that they did need him. No, no, no, no, no. Because he was the game changer for LeBron.

In reality, they, 73-9. They did not need him, of course. But he went. Yeah. He doesn't. So, therefore, you're supposed to be a better version of your team that went to the finals. You're supposed to get better, right?

You went to the finals. You're supposed to come back, go to recalibrate like you said, right? It just so happens that recalibration of this was a really, really fucking amazing basketball player. Second player in the NBA at that point in time. Arguing to be

the best. And it just so happened the team that they lost to in the playoffs, the team he decided to go to. So it made it easier for the media. And certain people around the league, of course, certain guys around the league felt the way, of course. But the Mavs, it's the media that made it a big, big deal and not talk about the motherfuckers blowing that 3-1 lead.

Right? So it was both narratives, but it was easier for the media to be like, oh, look at this guy. He just lost to them. Look at him joining them. Huh, huh, look at this guy. Huh, look at him.

That's what I said. So that was the thing because I even was like, damn, KD, really the Warriors? At the time, like when he did it, I even said like, damn, KD, my nigga.

Same as Ray Allen though. To me, that's why it's the same as Ray had just lost to the fucking Heat. No, it's not the nigga. Same as Ray Allen, though. To me, that's why it's the same as Ray had just lost to the fucking Heat. No, it's not the same. He just lost to the Heat. It's not the same. Huh? He wasn't a man. He was part of the big team. It's not the same.

You're using stuff that's not the same. It was the first. It was the first time we seen it. He came off the bench in Miami. It's not the same. He didn't come off the bench for the Celtics, though. He was the star. You're using something that's irrelevant.

How? So the same three that you mentioned, right? Paul Pierce leaves. They play Miami in the playoffs. Miami beats them. Paul Pierce leaves that summer and goes to Miami. Right. It's his team, right?

That's the narrative, not the reality shit. That's the same equivalent of KD leaving. So you're saying instead of Ray, it's Paul? Instead of Ray, it's Paul. Right? It's still not. It's still not. So you have Paul, LeBron, D-Wade.

No, it's still not reality. Reality is this. Can I just explain this? Because you said reality. It's not because Ray came off the bench. Ray was 37 when he won the league. Fuck Ray Allen! Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Okay? That's what I'm saying. This has nothing to do with Ray Allen. Why are we moving so... We have the Cavs. That's what I said. We have the Cavs. That's what I said. We have the Cavs. And we have Golden State Warriors.

Golden State Warriors, at the moment in time, was considered the best team in history. They just went 73-9. They are the best. By who? Can I finish? I let you talk. You talking about narrative, though, Gil. They saying?

You're saying they, like, who the fuck? The public! It's a lot of people not saying that, though. 73-9, they were supposed to be better than Michael Jordan's team. That was the narrative. This is the best team in history. People were comparing them to who is better, them or the 96 Bulls. Right?

They were the number one team by far. They beat OKC. OKC at this point is irrelevant. They're up 3-1 against Cavs. The King beats them. The King

dethrones considerably the best team in history. Right? That's where we finish off. We're making fun of Golden State Warriors. See, no one's making fun of OKC anymore because

the Golden State Warriors just got hit with the 3-1 also in the finals. So, we're laughing at Kevin Durant for about two weeks, three weeks until Golden State Warriors get 3-1. This

summer, the summer, we're laughing at Golden State Warriors. It was enjoyable. It was, right? It was fun. And then all of a sudden, they get arguably the number two or the number one best player in the league. Instead of people asking, wait, y'all are weak for going after the number two or one player in the game to go back and beat the Cavs,

everyone talked about Kevin Durant. See, you push the narrative on Kevin Durant when the weakest person here would be the Golden State Warriors because you needed to get the second best player in the NBA to go back

to beat LeBron James when LeBron James didn't get nobody. And like he said, you used the lowest hanging fruit, which at that point was, it's easier to pick on Kevin Durant than pick on 73-9 Golden State Warriors.

But how are you the number one team, you just went 73-9 and then you screamed for help? No one said nothing about it. He saved their legacy. Where's the narrative that you was talking about? I've been waiting for five minutes. I just said it.

The narrative went to Kevin Durant instead of the 73-9 being 3-1 and asking for the second best player in the NBA, which saved their legacy. So what's the difference between Kevin Durant's situation and LeBron James' situation in 2009? So the beauty of social media...

What's the difference between the Kevin Durant situation and the LeBron James' 2009? So KD going from the Thunder to the Warriors versus LeBron going from the Cavs to the Heat. Being the number one team in the playoffs the year before with a great record nothing you leave nothing you have no relevant weather has no relevant has none has none so who did they lose to

that year in the playoffs when before LeBron they lost in Boston right they got swept I think they got swept I think they got swept swept from Boston and then he goes to Miami and no did we make a big deal about yeah I think they got swept. Swept from Boston and then he goes to Miami. Did we make a big deal about that? Yes. I think we did. I think we did. Fairly. Right?

So it's equal to make a big deal about Kevin Durant. It's not the same. How? I think it's the same. You don't. So for you to argue. Who did Boston, who won the championship that year? In 2010?

Yeah, when he left. Lakers. Lakers, right? championship day here in 2010 yeah when he left uh lakers lakers right so this is like boston screaming for help and going to get lebron james that's what this looks like he lost the celtics and then it said paul pierce get on the phone and say hey bron can you come here we need help with kobe then lebron goes he weighed then lebron goes way do that then LeBron goes to Boston, and we talk about LeBron James instead of Boston screaming for help. In this situation, it's easy to pick on Kevin Durant, but the real people here who screamed for help was Golden State Warriors. That's the narrative you're starting.

No, that's the real narrative. Because you can't prove it. You can't, they wasn't. That's the narrative you're starting. That's the real narrative. You can't prove it. You can't. You can't. Draymond Green publicly said he called for Kevin Durant. Pull it up. Pull it up. You called him in the parking lot. That's the... Damn! So what is that? That's the real narrative. How many people can call and be like, yo, I want you to come here.

Hey, man, yeah, I would love to. That's great. That don't mean that the fucking president of the fucking club, the fucking G, all them niggas was like, hey, look, hey, Dr, yeah, I would love to. That's great. That don't mean that the fucking president of the fucking club, the fucking G, all them niggas was like, hey, look, hey, J-Mond, J-Mond did the same shit with LeBron right now. Like, hey, LeBron, I would love to call. Hey, look, hey, I'm trying to come down there with you.

I'm trying to come down there with you. Come on, bro. The real netter of this, he said publicly he called for him. He, not the Warriors. It don't matter. It does. He does. So, not the Warriors. It don't matter. It does. He is. So he's a friend.

So Draymond called, I think, immediately after losing in the finals, but then that crew went to Hampton, known as the Hampton Five. I think it was Steph. The crew. Say it again. Steph, Clay, Draymond. Hold on. Let him finish. Am I a free agent? They pulled up to the Hamptons to recruit. Am I a free agent? I am. Again. Alright. So say it again. Who did what? So the crew known as the Hampton Five. The Hampton Five. What Am I free agent? So again I am Again Alright So say it again Who did what?

So the crew known as The Hampton Five The Hampton Five What was their Fucking record? They were 73-9 Who did they lose to? LeBron Raymond

Okay now finish We got a chance To get Kevin Durant Hey we got We're a team We got a chance To get Kevin Durant You think we're not

Going to show up? What kind of fucking Shit you talking about bro? We got a chance To get Kevin Durant You don't think we're Going to go to the Hamptons And try to get this nigga? What the fuck is he talking about? Who looks weak? Kevin Durant is available to lead a team. Who looks weak?

The nigga who chilling in Hamptons by himself or the, what is their name again? The Hampton Five. Or the Hampton Four. Come in to ask for help. We not asking for help. You're available. Would you like to come play on our team, my nigga? Who else went to go try to get him? Who else went to go try to get him? Show me the names of the teams that tried to get Kevin Durant. Are y'all seeing the narrative? See, they picked on Kevin Durant for him saying, yes, I will come, but not saying nothing about the group going out of their way to go get him.

They didn't go out their way. You have to put it in perspective. Did Miami go out of their way to get LeBron? But this has no sense. I'm asking a question. I'm just asking a question. Because it's a stupid question. Because you know the answer is going to affect everything.

Miami Heat is not 73-9 when they went for the prize. It don't matter. It's a different thing. It don't matter. You are 73-9 screaming for help. They're not screaming for help. We just won a championship. Where did it go again?

We didn't win. Where did it go again? Two years before that, we won. We are champions. They went to the Hamptons to go again? Two years before that we won. Where did they go again? We are champions. They went to the Hamptons to go visit Kevin Durant. So where was Kevin Durant? He was in the Hamptons.

And where did they go? They went to the Hamptons. So Kevin Durant was where? In the Hamptons. So Kevin Durant was in the Hamptons. Doing what? Chilling? We can just drink mimosas, whatever.

They were playing video games. I don't know. He was chilling, right? That means y'all had to call. That means what did the other four have to do? They had to He was chilling, right? That means y'all had to call. Hey, hey, hey. That means what did the other four have to do? They had to call each other, right? Probably get on the private.

Yeah. Paid by who? The team. Yeah. Fly. By the team. To the Hamptons. That's a narrative, Gil.

To the Hamptons. To recruit. Don't matter how they got there. They could have walked. What we know is those four, right, went to the Hamptons to recruit. They are the 73-9 team to go recruit so they can go and murk the rest of the NBA. Everybody put the narrative on KD for saying yes, but not the Golden State Warriors

for going out and getting a bazooka. Your guns are not big enough to beat LeBron James that you gotta go out and get a bazooka to just say it's over with. You just said he said yes, right? Yes. Alright, so if I offer you something, don't you have a choice? Alright, I can say yes, I can say no. Red pill,

blue pill. Alright, red pill, blue pill. Hey, listen, all that travel shit, going to the Hamptons, that shit all sounded cool, right? That's what they say when you write. It sound cool. But the reality is, if Kevin Durant's available in free agency and there's 30 other teams that can get him,

regardless of we need him or not, if we can add Kevin Durant to our team, it's going to drastically increase our chances of not only beating this nigga who just beat us, but we can dominate the league. That ain't got nothing to do with our urgency to sign this nigga. It's the availability that he's available. At any start, one, two, three, top in the league,

is available and free agent. Every team should be trying to get him. Even the team that just won the championship Every team should be trying to get him. Even the team that just won the championship. Just so happened the Warriors got him. But now you want to talk about the narrative is blame the Warriors. How? KD made the choice to go there.

But you called him. They offered him. You called him. Don't matter. Call him or don't matter. I offered you. You made a choice. Yes. You could a choice. Yes. You could have said no, and you could have went back.

You didn't. So if me and you get in a fight, right, you're supposed to whoop my ass, and I end up winning, right? Somehow I end up beating you, right? And I'm the champ. Mm-hmm. And then you call your big brother, you call your big brother, your big brother come

to help you beat me. Who looks weaker? Your big brother for coming or you for calling your big brother on a fight you were supposed to win? Me. Okay, there we go. Wait, that was your scenario?

Yeah. And who's the big brother? KD? Golden State Warrior. Am I the Warriors or am I KD? You're the Warriors. I'm the Warriors. Yeah, I'm Cleveland.

You just beat me. I'm Cleveland and I just beat you. Now I gotta call my brother. You call your big brother to come help you. And you said it. That's your scenario? That's... That's your scenario? That's...

That's your scenario? You got caught off guard. It's okay. You hear it. You can backtrack all you want now. You got caught off. This win is KD the big brother. I'll wait. That situation he was.

This... That situation he was. That situation he was. You're going to State state I'm Cleveland. You were supposed to beat me, but I ended up winning somehow. And instead of us just having a rematch between us, because I didn't call no re-up, because I won. You go get your big brother

to come help you, and just like you said it, you look bad. But the public blamed him. Because they said, oh, you won a championship now. You want to win a fight. So you, yeah. They said your big brother was the bad guy.

Your big brother, instead of you being the bad guy. Because he jumped on Gil. Instead of you being the bad guy for calling for help. Right? That's the same. What I'm saying is the big brother didn't win the... So let me, so let's take it a step further, right? Let's take it a step further with his scenario, right?

With his analogy of what you go call your brother, your brother do something crazy and he kill Gil. Now he went to prison. Now the story is your brother went to the pen for that. Not that you called your brother. Right? That's the big story. Everything else existed, yes, absolutely.

But the bigger story of it all was your brother in the pen now. Right? So that's, like, Kevin Durant is your brother. The Golden State Warriors did not get blamed for recruiting him. They didn't get blamed. They did, but they should have. You should have been the blame for calling your brother the Golden State Warriors did not get blamed for recruiting they didn't get but they did but they should have I'm telling you should have been the blame they don't brother they don't get blind yes no it's not because it's not there it's not their issue whether he picks coming with us or not but you

shouldn't know but that's up to him no no no but the thing is no no no no but the thing so he what he's saying what he is saying is That scenario it's him Argument it does supposed to be this big bad guy, right? I Shouldn't have to go call nobody Right, whether he's Kevin Durant or not I'm coming. So we're not supposed to get better? You are. Yes. You just said we're not. No, no, we are.

Like I said. So I have to call somebody to get better. No loss. We have to get better, right? No, you shouldn't have to call nobody. You should not have to. But you just lost. But you did. But you just lost. Yes. So you called somebody. Yes, cool. Your team just lost. We just can't call him. No, you can call whoever you want.

You can't blame him because you can't blame who you call. The Warriors are not blaming him. No. The public is. The public is. Okay, so we're not talking about the Warriors. We're talking about the Warriors and Kevin Durant. Of course the Warriors want him.

You get to win. We're talking about the fans. That's what I've been talking about the whole time. I ain't talking about the fans or the public. I'm saying the narrative was Kevin Durant is weak for doing what he's doing. But in reality, the weak person was the person who called Kevin Durant. Which is Draymond Green. Which is the warrior.

Okay. You're 73. Draymond can call all he wants, but the Warriors have to act on it. No, they, listen. Huh? It's like a lead. Who's checkbook is it? It's like a lead, right?

Who's checkbook is it? If I got a call, I'm like, you want to buy this product? All right, I'm going to transfer you to them, and they're going to process the purchase. This is Draymond selling the joint on the phone.

Hey, hey, hey. We got him. Call Steve. Call them. Tell them we got an opportunity to get Draymond. Draymond got immunity. He ain't got nothing to do with the Warriors. Draymond got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, we got him. Call Steve. Call him. Tell him we got an opportunity to get Draymond. But Draymond got immunity, though. It ain't got nothing to do with the Warriors. But Draymond got immunity. Why do y'all have immunity for making that call?

Draymond got immunity. Y'all. Draymond. Your whole legacy. Draymond. Everybody at Golden State Warriors, everybody benefited. Who was the executive? Bob Myers. Bob Myers.

Bob Myers. His legacy jumps. Steph's legacy jumped over magic. Draymond, Hall of Fame. Clay, Hall of Fame. Looney, how many championships Looney got? Three. Three.

Everybody gets to hold their head up while everybody is looking at Kevin Durant like, oh, nah, we, nah, dawg. You left, you, nah, dawg, you went to the Warriors because the Warriors, wait, how, how am I the one being the villain and everybody else get to be heroes like they didn't benefit from my coming there? You made the decision, bro.

And you made the decision to call me. Yeah, I called you. You called me because you needed help beating LeBron James. You couldn the decision, bro. And you made the decision to call me. Yeah, I called you. You called me because you needed help beating LeBron James. You couldn't beat LeBron James, so you needed me. Like I said, when you first started. Because I called you, you got to say yes. Because I called you, you got to say yes. Because I reached out to you.

It was a mutual infatuation at the time. Just like everything we just said with the three-headed man. It was a mutual. KD, LeBron, and Steph. It was a mutual infatuation because KD said, damn, that looked like it mutual infatuate cuz Katie said damn that looked like it would be fun way to play fun ago It looked like it'll be fun to play over there. They just lost we need to get some more. We ain't got enough. Mm-hmm, right So it was mutual make the decision. It was make yes. Hey Katie. It was making this it like so but but you offer me though Thank you, because everybody offered you.

But everybody else wasn't 73-9, though. Exactly. So it's enticing because you, KD, want to know what it feels like to play over there because it looks fun. So why is he? I made the decision. So why is he the weak one? You got to ask the public that.

You said the public's in. Why is he the weak? That's what I said. I'm not saying. That's what I'm saying. That's where it started. You said the public's in. Why is he the weak end? That's what I said. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that's what I'm saying. That's where it started. I said the narrative was pushed out there and blamed him for accepting someone else

to cry for help. When it should have been the other way around that Golden State was up 3-1. They lost to LeBron James, and they needed to go get help. That was the reality of it. But they changed the narrative because no one was going to talk about Steph,

no one was going to talk about Klay because they were nice guys. But that was the reality of it, right? They chose another narrative, and the narrative was make KD the villain for going to a team that was up 3-1 So when you hear somebody talk about Kevin Durant's legacy, they always say well he went to go to a championship team That that beat them 3-1

not asking Not talking about Golden State Going out to go get a dude To beat LeBron James who beat them 3-1. Ain't got nothing to do with that free will. Yeah. Like I said, it was a mutual thing. But you answered it.

It don't matter. You answered it. It was a mutual decision. You cooked me on that one. You cooked me on that one. So we asked the chat who's winning the debate. I didn't put this question up. You cooked me on that one.

71% said Gil. But can we ask the chat now, is it obvious? Let's see what they say. Facts. I still think I won, though. But you guys talk about public perception. From your own perception, and it took me a long time to do this. I'm a big LeBron fan.

I was definitely salty at KD. But then you look at from an on-the-court and off-the-court standpoint, everything that the Warriors provided him, business dealing, Silicon Valley, all that type of stuff, no-brainer. And no disrespect to people in Oklahoma City, but if I got a chance to go from Oklahoma City to San Francisco for work, I'm out.

Like, it's not even like a second thought. Thank you, Josiah. We're athletes. Yeah. But from an athlete's standpoint, from your own personal standpoint, we're not talking about what the public perception of it was. But athletes, we don't look't look proceed remember the athlete we don't judge each other off of Non basketball shit. Yeah. Yeah, but we don't judge anybody off of what oh he went here He bought this he his girlfriend did that has nothing to do with you putting buckets in the goddamn basket

That's never been our perspective That's why I'm because when you just think about just history, most of the guys whose legacy is high, they went into winning situations when it started. There was only one person that we was like, yeah, he went to LA to go be

Shaq. When he left Orlando, it was more than basketball. But nobody dims his championships, you know, winning and going over there. Nobody talks about Shaq's championship when he went with Dwyane Wade. No one talks about Dwyane Wade championship when he got with Shaq. It's a championship. We did our goddamn duties, you know, inside this.

And that's the problem is most athletes now are being judged for everything but on performance. You're being judged for everything that has nothing to do with the game that you're playing. Our legacy is being changed. I argue with the coach. I got the coach fired. I got the coach fired. I got the guy... You can't be in the Hall of Fame first ballot. You got to go third.

Motherfucker, I done made 10 All-NBA, 10 championship, got four. What the fuck does that have to do, me getting my coach? What does that got to do with what I did on the court? This is the Hall of Fame. It's about my body of work. And that's where everything has been diluted. That became the problem.

So as far as super teams is concerned, whenever a big player gets added to a super team, it's the organization's doing, not the actual player. What is a super? Was the Boston Celtics 11 championship, was that not a super team? I'm just referencing like the Phoenix Suns. I'm just saying.

What I'm saying is... Bradley Beal made a decision to get there. He got traded? So is it the Suns that's like, all right, is it... From now on out, is it going to it the Suns that's like, all right, from now on out is it going to be the organization? It's always been the organization.

Not the player. The media's just put the players on it like the players are, like the players are doing it. Because they're choosing the destination. Well, his situation

is because he had no trade clause. He's choosing the destinations. Yeah, he had no trade clause. His situation is because he had no trade clause. But I'm saying in free agency

when you can choose where you want to go, it ain't no trading. The player gets exempt from wherever he goes because the organization is trying to bring him there. It all depends on... Well, obviously not in the public eye, but do you guys feel personally like...

Like, didn't nobody fault fucking Deion Sanders for going to the goddamn Dallas Cowboys? Shit like that. Like, you're trying to win. From Atlanta. From Atlanta. You're trying to win. Then you went from there to San Francisco.

It's just like, you're trying to win. It's just. Yeah. Deion's trajectory. But did they fault him from going from San Francisco to Dallas? No. We're Deion, so he can do whatever he wants. But that's what I'm saying.

Just all legacies that's, if you look across the board, no one talks about them. Right? We just talk about the championships and we compare. So how do you guys look at legacy from that standpoint as former players? Because I know the public perception is a lot different. Like you're saying, they're going to knock KD. The public perception is coming from a group of people that has nothing to do with the sport itself. So they don't know anything that's going into trading

and moving and wanting to move. They're just seeing someone wants to leave, and then they have the opinion. Because they've got a favorite team. And then they push their opinion out to the public, and that's all the public knows. Yeah, because it's not like KD chose to go to the Sonics and then the Thunder, obviously, when they moved.

That's the team that drafted them, but we placed this heavy value on loyalty. It's like, what loyalty? I didn't them, but we placed this heavy value on loyalty. It's like, what loyalty? I didn't get ping-pong balls bounce this way, and I ended up going here. I didn't say, hey, I want to play here, and that's what happened.

Now I have my own free will. That's a great point. I'm just saying, to be able to pick any team I want to go play for, and we knock them, oh, you want to go to a good team. What other profession do we do? Oh, I want to get out the country. Josiah, that's a great point. Oh, I want to get out the country.

But what other profession is like? Oh, no, bro No, no profession if you if someone's paying if Microsoft right now hired everybody give them to give you more money Give you a better position give you a windows for give you oh, you're gonna take the job Why good is Microsoft is Microsoft? Okay, guys, right is Microsoft you working in your basement making $20,000, $30,000. They offer you $300,000, $300,000, and you get this, this, these benefits. You're taking the job.

99.99, what? Fuck it. 100% of all normal people in this world, if they had a place to go get a job in a better city that they get to pick, they're going to do it. Benefits better better everything better when it comes to the athlete yeah it becomes a problem because well fans have allegiance to the team they got players and teams and shit like that and the ownership of what goes on behind the scenes what you guys have talked about regardless what goes on there I'm a Lakers fan or I'm a Knicks fan I'm

whatever let's go back to the question though but if he came to their team they wouldn't have but if he came to their team they wouldn't have shit to say. They'd be cheering. Yeah. So what's the definition of legacy? Really, how do you guys view legacy? Oh, no. Yeah. How we view legacy. Like, does KD go into the Warriors? That don't impact your thoughts on him as a basketball player. I know. Yeah.

No, at the time, before I, like, sat down and really thought about it, like I said before, I'm like, damn, KD, them? Like if he would've went somewhere like, like if he would've went to New York at the time, decent team, somebody would've been like, oh, I get it. But at the time, but then I really thought about it, with this situation, I was like, man, trying to win, man. Like he been, he's fucking really good.

And so I had to respect the man's decision, right? You can't question a man's decision when he's fighting for, the word we're talking about here is legacy, right? It's his personal legacy, right? It's on how he's going to lay his head down when he tie his shoes up and throw them over the fucking phone line, right? When his retirement is done, how does he feel about himself? Fuck what the media got to say, fuck what Kenyon got to say, fuck what Stephen A got to say, fuck what anybody has to say.

When I'm done, when I lay my head down at night, can I feel with what I did with my time as a professional athlete? And this is what people get misconstrued. They want people to think and act and feel the way that they do. No, this shit is personal. I'll play for a team, but this shit is personal for me. And this is what Kevin Dur durant maybe his thought process was making and making these decisions for his legacy not the legacy of the golden state warriors lebron left he was going for his legacy i need to win a championship. People talking shit about me. I need to win.

So this is what people like. So I had to step back when I was questioning the decision at the time and be like, I probably would have did the same fucking thing under these circumstances, right? I'm trying to win and people question me. So you got to respect grown men's decisions when it's this. When it's sport and it's a personal thing that they are fighting for in the history of this game. Okay.

I'll say the same thing, man. Like, literally, for me to question or comment on somebody else's overview of their legacy. Like LeBron, he asked me, do I respect LeBron's legacy over Reggie Miller, right? I have my opinion on that question. Yeah. But at the end of the day, it don't fucking matter. LeBron's legacy is going to be up to him and what he think about it,

how he sleep at night and feel good about himself. So I'm not going to put no emphasis on legacy because I have my own opinion on whether or not I should respect it or not. But at the end of the day, it's not about what I think about legacy. Somebody else. I can only say what I would do for me.

So I get that part, and I'm 100% on board with that. Just to piggyback on another step, and that's why, like, us as athletes, we have a problem with skips, the Stephen A's, these people, right? When you're on, you've never laced them up, and you don't know what it took for these guys to become who they are. And when you're constantly with the negative narrative of this person and constantly challenging everything and every move that they make and everything that they do is critiqued in a negative light, you're fucking with this man's legacy.

And you have no leg to stand on because you ain't never been in this arena. You ain't never been on this field. You ain't never done it. So for you to have anything but praise and admiration for these people is crazy. And that's why we feel the way we do. And that's why we challenge damn near everything that comes out of your mouth, because it's coming from, you're naive, you're ignorant to what you're saying, because you don't know what it took

to question this man's legacy at any point, at any decision that he's made, at any time where he was successful or at his failure. You should have nothing but praise for this man at any sport. So for you to be critiquing and criticizing these people, man, like, it irks me. So anytime I have a chance to rebuttal and dispute anything that they say,

I'm going to do it every chance I get because your words are invalid to me. And what's so funny is I'm glad you said it. And when you say invalid, it's the correct word, invalid. Only sports is where you cannot have been a professional of it and you get to judge someone's work. Right?

Hall of Fames and all of like, every athlete, 100% of athletes are still wondering how did you make a 75 list without Dwight Howard? It still boggles every single player who's ever played this game. Like, wait, what the fuck are y'all

talking about? Right? If we had to put this shit in numbers, he's going to be top 25. So how is he not 75? Right? And we've been on planes, right? The most important person is who? The pilot, right?

Second most important. Co-pilot? No. Besides them, the pilots. Second most important person is who? The pilot, right? Second most important. Co-pilot? No, besides them, the pilots. Second most important. Flight attendant? Flight attendant, great, great. Stewardesses? And then next is the customers, right?

Which one is the NBA player? The pilot, right? The pilot is the one that's out there practicing, looking at game plans. We are the one playing. The stewardess is the analyst, right? The analyst reports everything to the passengers, right? The only problem with that is

we are in the same fucking cabin. The stewardess and the passengers are in the same fucking cabin. You're watching the same fucking view, right? When turbulence hits and they get on there, hey, just calm down. Everybody put your seatbelt. Bitch, I know that.

I know. I know. I can see. Motherfucker, the turbulence, I'm moving. The ding-ding came on. I can see that from right here. You have no different view than me, right? The customer, the analyst and the fans got the same fucking view. We are the people in the cockpit, right?

There's a door. Shoot! Can't get in. Right? Shoot! But the only thing the analysts get to do is knock on the door. Do-do-do! Hey, so what's going on back there?

And then I tell you what to tell them. Right? Now, imagine as a pilot being judged by the stewardess on how we landed. You watch your rabid ass mind to tell me because there was so much turbulence

and you felt uncomfortable. Bitch, you don't know what I went through up here. Right? You don't know nothing about, you didn't do no flights, you didn't do no, you have no hours

on getting this plane safe. All you's doing is just sitting there, talking to each other, judging us on what we are doing. That is the problem. You're telling who should be in the hall of fame first ballot and you are seeing the entertainment part. I've never seen how many days you was in practice, you was sick going to practice. I don't know what you went through mentally to prepare for this game. All I'm watching is the 48 minutes.

I'm sorry, people, but there's more than 48 minutes that go into a person's legacy. Y'all are judging people on the game-winning shot, who didn't take it, why you didn't take it. You don't know. Do you know our plays? Huh? Did our coach give you the fucking playbook to know what we were running?

No, you're just judging if LeBron James came and took the shot or passed the shot. That's it. If he passes it, he's weak. Right?'s it. If he passes it, he's weak. Right? If he takes it and misses it, he's weak. Right? You don't know the play that's drawn up. You don't know what's going on to this to have so much influence on legacies.

It's the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. I want to see a bunch of stewardess dictate the pilots who's going to go into the Hall of Fame and who gets raises and shit. They will look at them niggas like, if you don't get your stupid ass up out of here... That's what you do. Open the cockpit door. Mm-hmm.

Come on in here. Come on in here. Here, take the wheel. Take the wheel. You got it. So we ask... You sit over this bitch. Let me here. Let me hear it. Take the wheel. Take the wheel. You got it? So we asked you to sit on this bitch. Let me see.

Let me turn this idle pilot off and let me see you land this motherfucker. Mm-hmm. Go. Matter of fact, get your ass up out of here. Get your ass up out of here. Get your ass up out of here. You'll be like, oh, is LeBron James that hard thug? I didn't know this shit was this fucking... Yeah, shit your ass, dummy.

Get your ass... It's that, man. Like, no. It's just fun. Jason Tatum, how about this? You know what? Here's a uniform. Here's some shoes. Guard them. 360 where? You don't know what goes... Come on, man.

We play 82 games. We get 82 scout reports, dog. 82 scout reports dog 82 scout reports I'll take it more simple for you go give them the playbook tell us what the first the first where the ball is supposed to go

I ain't gonna tell you shit where the ball is supposed to go here go where the ball is supposed to go first pass who's what who's the one what's one what's one First pass. Who's what? Who's the one?

What's the one? What's one? 1.25 out of 20. Where does one go? Okay, you got the first four where he passed. So where did he go after he passed? Mm-hmm. What is the defense doing? Hey, you know what?

You can help. Follow the line. Follow the line. Follow the TikTok. Show me. Yeah. Like, when's the last time you played? Like, in the NBA? Mm-hmm. 2015. Yeah. Show me. Yeah. Like, when was the last time you played? Like, in the NBA?

Mm-hmm. 2015. 2015. Tell me a scouting report on how you guarded Tim Duncan. Oh, for me, I'm going to get into him. I'm not going to let him shoot his bank shot. I'm going to make him put the ball on the floor as much as possible. I'm going to catch him.

Like I said, I'm going to make him catch the ball on the floor as much as possible. I'm going to catch him. Like I said, I'm going to make him catch the ball off the block first and foremost. I'm making him go left if I can. It's because he's going to try to shoot his running hook because I can't get to it. His arm's longer than mine. Yeah, what's his strong suits in the scouting report? What is his strong suits in the scouting report? Oh, bank shot.

He's fundamentally signed. He's going to get to where he wants to. He's got a nice jump hook. Strong right hand. Not's fundamentally signed. He's going to get to where he wants to. He's got a nice jump hook. Strong right hand. Not a great shooter. I'm a stunning back. I can get back to it. He wants to post up on the left block. KG wants to post up on the left block. He's dominant right shoulder. Left shoulder jump hook, right shoulder jump shot. Want to face you up create space defense and tendencies no that don't matter he's all over the place now when was the last time you played a game? 2015

you just gave a scout report on two Hall of Famers. Because how many times have you played them? 23, 26 times, right? So when the game is being played and you're following a scouting report, there's nobody watching. There's no analyst watching if they never played the game to know what you're doing.

Oh, why did he open it up and let him go baseline? Yeah. Got help coming. That's where my help's supposed to be. That's his weak side. I don't want him to go middle. That's our game plan.

Game plan. They don't know nothing about games. Like, so you're judging everybody's legacy on something you have no idea. You are a viewer. At this point, to be honest, I trust a diehard fan over an analyst. Because I know a diehard fan watches every fucking game, every fucking minute.

And they invest it Analysts you don't have no alliance to nothing All you do it is just gonna get an end report look at some stat sheets and then get a little summary and then you go Out there spew your take on it. You didn't watch the game from top to bottom Unless you have a favorite team Mm-hmm. Like so when I hear analysts talk I really want to know do you have a favorite team if you when I hear analysts talk, I really want to know, do you have a favorite team? If you say no, then I can't trust your opinion because I know you're not watching the game full mode. I know when Laker game, come on, this motherfucker just LeBron James.

LeBron James. He going to watch the regular game as well. But you're not going to watch any other. But that's what I said. I trust people who diehard fans more than the NLs because I know the diehard fans at least watch that 48-minute game. So if they tell me about their player, I can take everything they're saying for gold because they watch every single moment.

82 fucking games, they done watched this man. Every time D-Lo get that bitch, they be like, yo, they be into it. And they be spot on, too. So I catch myself every time having a real basketball conversation with a motherfucking, like, diehard fan about their squad.

Sitting at the airport at the bar, motherfucking like, yo, we watching. Shit like that, right? They can tell you from top to bottom. Every move, responsible for it. They still make the mistake that the analysts make to though the fans Yeah, of course they go, you know, they think they think they actually know but think about it They're getting it from here. And then like so like if you're watching it as something you don't know This analyst is telling you and you're like, okay cool

Right, right, even though we don't get to. Even though your vision is the same as theirs. You're looking at it too. As soon as the game come on, right? As soon as the game come on, you and the analyst, boom, in real time. The analyst don't have, he's not in the locker room when coach is giving his speech. He ain't at practice. He didn't come back 6.30 that night to see the guy warm up and do all these things. So his view of the game is no different than yours.

I think the fans just trust the analyst. Because that's all they heard. That's all they've heard. Because they don't hear from us directly. They take it for face value because they think these people are professionals and should know exactly what's going on. It's like newscasters. It's like you watch the news. You got to trust what he's saying.

Shout out Mark Brown and Pat Hart. They put you on TV. Yeah, they put like newscasters. It's like you want people to because you got to trust what he's saying It's not our mark brown or TV. Yeah, they put you on TV people think people on TV all right, and they fucking faint like they just just because they put a camera in people people admire people and their opinions and their Celebrity because they put you on fucking TV It's like me. Shit. Like me, like football. That's it. I know. I know. We talk about the Cowboys. Boom. Last year's Cowboys. Last year's Cowboys.

Last year for the last 20 years. It's football overall. Yeah. 20 years. Cowboys. You don't know everything about it. Absolutely. Right?

Like me, I don't have a team. You don't, whatever I say, be valid. Yeah. Come on over to the Raiders, bro. You know what I mean? Come to the Raiders. I don't have shit to say, be valid. Come on over to the record. I don't have shit to tell you. And that's why some people, I remember Ocho, right? When I was doing a show

with Ocho, I like Ocho's approach. What he don't know, he asks the question. Hey, I got a question. When it's this, this, and this, what does that mean? He's letting you know he's a novice and he's trying to understand so when he's watching it, he

can get a better understanding. Now, that's the approach when you're coming into something you have. You just ask. Just ask for it, you know? Like when I start talking football, I'm asking, hey man, look, that's fourth and one. Running back dude, the running back is averaging 3.7

yards. Why the fuck they kicking it? Because my brain says go for it. Right? How do you know who to ask, though? It's just a football player. Running back. Remember we talked about motherfuckers don't know what they talking about. But a quarterback running back, like, why they not going to you?

Like, you know what I mean? Like, the question you just asked about the fourth and one. Like, that's the same thing with the Seattle Seahawks with Marshawn Lynch. Absolutely. And all that shit. Like, why did y'all pass the ball there? But even the football players don't have the answer to that. Now, that's, see, so I would like to ask the coach.

See, I would like to ask Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson in the coach. Like, he's the only one that knows. He's the only one that knows. No, no, no. He's the only one that could have changed it. Yeah, he could have audible. He could have did anything.

I could, or I could go get the Super Bowl MVP. Or I could go be selfish and do that. But see, that's what I said. We all have our opinions, but the only person who can tell us what's what is the coach or the quarterback. Yep. I know somebody that was there in real time, but. Marshall?

Oh, no, no, no. I know somebody that was on. Like, I talked to him to him too but i know somebody that was like i've always read like some of those debates we be having the people who can answer it never answer it like who's better the 92 dream team or the 96 dream team there's only a few fucking people that can answer that question facts facts right there's only a few people that can hit charles barkley like that's a question. Fuck our opinion. Whatever Charles says,

that's what I go with now. Right? I can say 96 all day. He played on both. So it'd be like, yo, Charles, who was better, the 92 team or the 96 team?

Whatever answer comes out his mouth, I can no longer have an opinion about. Because the person who was on both gets to tell me. Because it's his perspective. It's his perspective. He was there. There's not an opinion. There's not an opinion about because because the person who was on both gets to tell me because it's his perspective it's his perspective he was there not an opinion there's not an opinion that's the difference and that's like when y'all be talking about certain things i'm making opinions because i don't i wasn't there y'all went to the playoffs he then y'all being all stars i can't say oh i know what that feel i can only say oh but how that feels. But this is how we deal with it. Now, let's say we ask Charles Barkley, right?

Who's better, 92-96? Right? I think 96, right? And he says, the 92 team. And then my goofy ass be like, bitch, you're wrong. Man, magic, you're burning this. It happens. It happens all the time. You stupid motherfucking holler out there and then give you a whole bunch of stats

that I had to fucking Google. Nigga. Nigga. Right beside me. I was there. My real player percentage, the real player percentage over here says the 96 team was better than the 95 team. You can't guard no motherfucker. That's how goofy you look, dog.

That's why I start statements out when I'm telling stories and certain things about situations that I've been in. It ain't nothing I saw in no movie. Ain't nothing I read in no book. Ain't nothing I saw on no TV. It's something I see in my own two fucking eyes. I was there. I was there. So we asked the chat.

This is a while ago. Is it obvious? 71% said yes. Thank you, chat. Not sure what it is, but it's obvious. Never fail, man. So let's keep it moving. So after a strong showing at the Olympics,

French forward Gershon Yabusele has agreed to a one-year vent minimum deal with the Sixers as they look to add some depth at the power forward spot. Yabusele was the 16th overall pick by the Celtics in 2016, played in 74 games over two seasons before going back overseas. He spent the last three seasons with Real Madrid in La Liga. So Yabusele was the second-leading scorer on France's silver medal-winning squad, averaging 14 points, three rebounds, shooting 52% from the field. In the knockout stages, he had 22-5 against Canada

in France's upset win in the quarterfinals, 17-7 on Germany in the semis, and then gave Team USA a 20-piece in the quarterfinals 17-7 on Germany in the semis and gave Team USA a 20 piece in the gold medal game. So obviously Kane you are a resident Sixers fan by your familial allegiances. What will Gershon Yubasele bring to the Sixers this season? Well me watching him play in my first I don't really vaguely remember him playing for the Celtics.

From what I saw he get physical so they can use another big. really vaguely remember him playing for the Celtics. From what I saw, he get physical. So they can use another big, they got Joel, they got Andre Drummond. KJ plays the four, of course, they can use another body at that position. They got mostly wings and guards. With Caleb Martin coming over, Reggie Jackson, Eric Gordon,

re-signing Kelly Oubre, still got Tyrese, you got Kyle Lowry. So, there's another decent-sized body they can use, that does something different than KJ. He got the nickname Benye Wallace for his work in Olympics. May or may not have dunked on somebody on TV. May or may not. Footage has been deleted, Kane. We already made it disappear.

We made it disappear. Yeah, no, it's just another body. Like I said, he does something different than what KJ brings to the table. So, yeah. You know, KJ is flying around and shooting, and he's – so, no, it's good for them. You know what I'm saying? It's another body they can use. He's been playing professionally.

You know he's not going to hurt the team. He knows how to play. He's proven that. So yeah, it's dope. What do you think? Obviously, I got to see. The GOAT debate is over. It's official, man.

The GOAT debate is over. It's official. What is official about the GOAT debate, good? No one's ever dunked on Joe and then got a job. You dunk on Michael Joe and, God damn it, you a can. You dunk on LeBron James and got a job. That don't say nothing about the dunk. That says more about the person you dunked on.

Huh? Huh? Hey, that's called a goat. That's called goat energy. Somehow you seem to give LeBron credit for this nigga getting the deal? Can you read the stats again in the mother? Huh? Can you read the stats again in the mother? Huh?

Can you read the stats that he did in those other games? For Francis, second lead score, 14-3, but 22-5 against Canada in the quarterfinals. Nobody's seen that.

Okay, go. What do you mean nobody's seen that? Nigga, you didn't see it. What were you talking about? Did you see what he be doing? Did you see what he be doing? Nobody's seen that.

Nigga, you wasn't watching. The whole world was watching. 17-7. Got it, man. 17-7 on Germany in the semis. Didn't watch that. And then 20-piece in the gold medal game. So he was balling.

But he also supplanted Rudy Gobert. So the reason Rudy Gobert got benched is because Yabusele was balling. Oh. So he could play. Yeah. Oh, okay. In Olympics competition. Damn.

He went viral for what again? He may or may not have dunked on NBA don't don't the king when he has a job I'm just saying like I mean you got to be very very powerful It's like it kind of reminds me of the AI crossing Jordan up, right? It was more about right Yeah The person you're doing it to is like,

woo, that motherfucker gotta be that good. Like, you know how good you gotta be. You dunk on a nigga, lose, get home, and hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, son,

I seen your game today. Contract on the way. Boy, as soon as he got to the locker room, hey, this is Darryl Morey here. This is Darryl Morey here, and we got an open spot for you, son. Good game!

Boy, you know how to do it. Hey, friends. Hey, friends. Hey, they think they slick. They trying to take all the European players. Hey, look. No, that's crazy. They need to get a Euro. They need another one.

That's great. And another one. I'm just saying. And another one. Who else is next? Because how many pros was on their friends team to Three-on-three on the France team Nine played in the pros

I mean, but currently in the league currently in the league when we go bear to Fournier four-year-old Shit Gabby Williams just signed with the Seattle Storm. Yeah. Chick from the France. Yeah, she was cooking. She just signed with the France, the Seattle Storm. I mean, shout out to my wee wee Frenchmen, French toast,

French fries, French. Hey, you already know the rest. Hey, congratulations, man. Of course. Congratulations. We winning all the way around, man. Yeah. Pretty soon, man.

Listen. I'm just saying. Going to open up our own little crepe store. We winning all the way around, man. Yeah! Pretty soon, man. I'm just saying. We're going to open up our own little crepe store. I'm just saying. Listen, listen. Now everybody going to be, hey, listen. You dunk on Brian, you get a job. That's all I'm saying.

Hey, Jordan. Alfred didn't get a job. He didn't get a job. He didn't get a job. I think he dunked on the Brian. In high school. I'm just saying. Look, look.

Nick dunked on Brian in the Western Age. I'm just saying, look, look. Nick dunked on the brown in the Western Age. Shit, he was starting the next day. Damn. Sheesh. Well, shit. So we've seen average to solid NBA players do work in the Olympics when they have more prominent roles with their national teams. Patty Mills and Boggy Boggy come to mind from this past Olympics. But are the Olympics a good indicator of how a player's skill set

will translate to the league? From the internationals? Yeah, just from watching that, looking at what Yabasele was able to do, playing against the Team USA, giving them a 20-piece. If you're in the league... They already played against NBA guys already. Most of the guys on their team are NBA guys.

Yeah, so we don't... It kind of gives you a perspective. Like when you see Patty Mills, right? of gives you a perspective like when you see patty mills right it gives you a perspective of how much he has to sacrifice just to fit into a team an nba team yeah right or it can say it lets you know how much talent is on rosters for a guy who goes to his team and he's nobody can stop him or how good patty mills or even looking like a shooter who made the olympic squad right he was on the top five but he struggles but okay i don't know but you can but it just lets you know like you know nba is a hard place yeah Yeah. If Patty Mills is a guy who plays four minutes a game

and then goes into the Olympics and he's giving out 20 pieces. He's unguardable. Olympics, Patty. Right? He has to sacrifice. He has to play his role. His role is not to be Australia Patty Mills. His job is to be come on the bench, come out and dictate the tempo, keep the lead, or, you know, push it up a little bit.

Don't do nothing stupid. It's the same with Fournier, though. Fournier, yeah. Because he didn't play at all in New York. Yep. Like, literally, like, they get the, now he over in France balling. Man, that's why some of those, like, sometimes it's just kind of refreshing to, like, when you see guys get to play on their national team. So you can remember

what they they look like but it lets you know it kind of shows you that it ain't all about talent or iq just i i just ain't got no playing time for you yeah you know what i mean yeah that part right yeah you patty mills but you you sitting behind us just there's luca donchus right here you know what i mean there's just there's? There's just... There's just... It's more talent. I... Yeah, and Mills was another beneficiary from his Olympic performance, signed a one-year $3.3 million deal with the Jazz.

Oh, he's re-signed? Yeah, he's back. There's only a few players in the international that get to do what they do there and... home. Yeah. Right, there's only a few. Rudy Fernandez was one of those guys.

He played for Portland. And then he played in Spain with Gasol and all of them. He played both the same way, kind of the same. But he was more like a third option anyway, right? Yeah. Yeah. He was never no star guy. So, you know, talked about Yabba Sally coming to the Sixers.

Speaking of the Sixers, Chet Holmgren pulled up for an episode of Paul George's podcast, P-Show, this week and hit PG with an interesting question. Let me try and fuck up y'all chemistry. Y'all need a bucket, end of the game. Who's shooting the game on the shot? You or Joe? Uh.

Damn. That's funny. That's a Nick Nurse question. I'm going to deflect that to Nick Nurse. Okay. That's a Nick Nurse question I'm going to deflect that to Nick Nurse That's a PR answer Whoever Nick Nurse draw it up for We're going to get the best shot I'm going to continue to fuck up the chemistry If it's not you are you going to be salty?

Nah I've dealt with that I've been on teams with other superstars and, you know, we live and die with whoever takes it. That's facts though. That's facts. And with the, uh, shout out Chet Holmgren, stirring the pot at a very young age. Yeah, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you. You got a bright future in this league.

You got a nice future in the media. Stirring the pot. Oh, shit. Throw the pipe. It's all gone. Empty cup. But if you were Nick Nurse, who's getting the last shot on the Sixers? One person that got motherfucking mismatched most nights. Motherfucking MVP.

The most valuable player on our team. Or. And then Tyrese Maxson. Or if zero. Listen, I'm going to tell you. Then Tyrese Maxson. No, no, no.

She is. Well, if Paul got that thing going, God damn it, you know the ball going. If Tyrese got it going, you know where it's going. But if neither one of them got it going,

you're throwing the ball down the motherfucking big fellas. Throwing the ball to 21, man. Throwing the ball to 21. man. Throwing the ball to 21. Every time. Every fucking time. If Tyrese got it going,

yeah, if he had one of them heaters going, and even if that moment, he's still going to have a heater going and you still might be throwing that ball. If he put his hand up. It's kind of hard. Like, it's easy to say, we'll give it to Embiid, right?

But Embiid is in the same situation as Jokic, right? He's a fourth-quarter guy. You know, Jokic is the best player, but who's taking all the game winners is going to be Jamal Murray, right? Because Jokic is easier to double when he has the ball, so he's going to have to come up off it. You know, Embiid, you put him in the post, they're going to double him, so he's passing anyway. Now, if he has the ball at the top of the key,

eh, that's not the position you want. Not at all. You don't want him sitting there trying to be at the top of the key, trying to maneuver just to get a shot off. So, for the most part, it's going to be Maxie. Or PG. Or PG. Most likely, they'd probably try to say,

all right, let's do a little pick and roll. They're going to do a pick and roll, and if B pops and he's by himself, of course they're going to throw it to him. But for the most part, it's going to go to guards, man. It's easier. I mean, because we're going to play you one-on-one, but I'm going to double and B.

What do you think the hesitation to Paul George was? Nothing. Coming to a new situation. Yeah. It was an honest answer. How do you feel about the, uh... Because if you would have said, uh, me, that would have been viral. Yeah, that was the right answer. Oh, Paul George thinks he can go over there and just...

Yeah, that's a Nick Nurse question. It is. Is that a PR answer, though? Facts. Hell yeah, Nick Nurse. Of course. It's PC. So you think he feels that he should be him?

No, like you said, he's been in that situation. He's been in that situation. That's what I'm alluding to. You've been in that situation twice. But, you know, man, there's only a few dudes that we've seen in the NBA that if they don't have it going, they don't give a fuck about nobody else, they still gonna take that shot.

Right? Because they're the franchise guy. But for the most part, it's usually if there's more talent on the court, whoever has it hot and, you know,

we're gonna live with... Okay, let's just say no one has it going between those three. Maxie, PG, and B. Then we're going to live with. Okay, let's just say no one has it going between those three. Maxie, PG, and Embiid. Then we resort back to PG. Yeah, we go with PG. We're going to PG.

You're going to PG in that situation? Yeah, we go with the guy who has the most experience. Because at the end of the day, it's who can. It's only one shot. So if you 0-12 or what, it don't matter at that point. If you're all 0-12, who has experienced at this history of Paul George Last second shots. I think they already had it. He was like he has a certain shooting percentage for game when a game game winners

So I'm wondering like how if you would or you were to do the metrics, because skill set, you're like, hey, Paul Juris, out of all of them, he can get a shot off. He can make that shot. Because he's been around longer. Yeah. But then it's the statisticals. You got to go with your stats. But Tyrese ain't been around long enough to have enough.

He hasn't hit a dunk. But it's still, even if it shows up something like that, how many times was he doubled? They're not going to factor in how many times was he doubled or triple team and going on? How many times did he start with the ball or did he get the ball and he was throwing a grenade and he hadn't taken all those. So, you know, you got to factor in all of it. Right. So, um, one, we got to get a shot off. Right. So for the most part, all three can get a shot off. Right. If I'm trying to trying to if it's a let's say it's a penalty situation Right if it's a better. No if it's a penalty situation on the blue max. I'm gonna make no I'm gonna go with Max

I'm like he's the only one that not gonna jump away from contact right, but then you have him be who's gonna try to force contact Yeah right now. I got it now. I'll put it in the ref hand to give him the flop, so are we on the road or are we at home? Yeah. Right, so there's a lot of shit that factors into it, you know what I mean?

Thanks. But for the most part, I'll go with, I'm going to give Bigfella the benefit of the doubt because he's, he's the franchise guy. So, like, if I'm drawing up

a play for Paul George and the nigga vetoes it. Now bring it to me. All right, well, fuck. All right, all right, all right. Bring that to me. So we're going to do Paul George. What we're going to do is, Max, you're going to bring it down here. All right, well, fuck it. All right, all right, all right. Now bring that bitch to me. So we're going to do Paul George. What we're going to do is,

Maxie, you're going to bring it down here. Paul George, you're going to curl him. Turn him. Now, Maxie, if Paul George is open, just throw it right there. Right? Get him off the curl. If not, we're going to pass it, big fella.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big fella. I like that. I like that. You know, because if I'm drawing up a play as a coach, I'm drawing it up for who I think has the best opportunity to get the best shot. Yeah.

But if I get vetoed by the best player I'm going with it. I'm going with the player anyway, cuz now his confidence kicked in He feels offended that you didn't go to him first he's like Like I know you know I mean if I'm like, all right Dane we're gonna come down we're gonna do this and then Yannis I don't get fuck what if he's one for 12. Oh, no, no, no, no, no bring that shit to me. I'm on I got it I'm gonna make this got it. I'm going to make this. Got it. All right, so scratch that.

Dame, get that bitch to greet, and everybody get the fuck out of the way. You know what I mean? And we've been in those situations. Well, I got the clutch minutes report from last year. If y'all want that, I know your feelings. Clutch minute report. I know your feelings about the term clutch being utilized. What is it?

Last five minutes. Well, he asked for Paul George's last. Yeah. Clutch minute reports. So, PG had 98.3 clutch minutes. Clippers were 20 and 12. He was 71.6 true shooting percentage on 39 field goal attempts,

8 for 20 from the three-point line. 8 from 20. Max, he had 107.1 clutch minutes, 50.3 true shooting percentage on 71 field goal attempts, 7 for 23 from three. And him beat... 23. You know what? I don't goal attempts. Seven for 23 from three. And then beat. You know what?

I don't know. Nothing you said. Me neither. I don't know nothing you said. I don't know. It sounds cute. Same. Can you tell me?

All right. How about this? Who was the worst team last year? Give me Detroit Pistons and then tell me what Cade Cunningham. True percentage? No, no, no. Do the same thing with Cade Cunningham... True percentage? No, no, no. Do the same thing with Cade Cunningham. Let me put it in the magic.

No, I want to go... Yeah, type in Cade Cunningham because they played a lot of close games. Because the last five minutes has... The last five minutes and you're starting to count clutch points in the last five minutes? It's ridiculous. If it's a close game?

It's still a game. There's no importance. The last five minutes is the importance, bro. Two minutes. No, the last two. Yeah. Five minutes. It runs like that.

Everybody still gets the ball in the last five minutes. That's why they keep track of the points for the five minutes. But you're not close. Does Does free throws count as clutch? Yeah. I don't think so. Free throws? You don't think the free throws you missed wasn't clutch free throws? That's the end of the game. But it was still. If you say from the five

minutes to the end of the game, you're still including your shot in the end. He missed them too at five minutes. If he missed it at 430, it doesn't. But there's no pressure. He missed them, too, at five minutes. There's no five minutes. If he missed it at 4.30, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't. There's no pressure. There's going to be so many more possessions in the game. But those are the things we talk about, factors in the game.

When you lose something, you're like, that wasn't the reason we lost. There was so many other reasons. And then there'll be the two free throws. Right. And then there'll be the two free throws. Right. So if those two free throws, we don't shoot no more free throws for the rest of the five minutes.

Those two free throws matter. See, now you we don't shoot no more free throws So the less than five minutes those two free throws matter But that see now you're putting it now you're doing exactly what you're supposed to do You're putting a different perspective on it right there And so it's not about the five minutes if I never shoot any more free throws and there's no more points Then those two men now those free throws actually matter Yeah, but right but the rest of the game still matters so to five minutes the clutch points that you make total from that five minute Mark down is this what they're calculating? They're like, all right five minutes left in the game We know how many points this player is gonna score. Okay, so now let's go with

Tracy McGrady's performance against the Spurs Spurs 13 seconds How many clutch points did he actually have? He had 13 points in... Besides those 13. 11 seconds. Two minutes is clutch right now. That's five.

Five. That's five. So he had 13... Score within five. Score within five. Last five minutes, score within five. So he had 13 points in 33 seconds. 33 seconds. 33 seconds.

So that means in the last five minutes, nothing was clutch. That means his performance wasn't clutch until what? Five seconds left? His meaningful clutch buckets. If you go back to the game and you say, all right, there are plays and things that happened in that game that led to that, that led to the last 13 points that he had in the 33 seconds. We don't know up until that point because this outshines it all.

So when you have something outshining all the other clutch shit, of course there's There was no clutch nothing. What you mean? It doesn't fit the clutch. Remember, it's a certain day. Because they was losing. They wasn't fit the clutch. Remember, it's a certain day. Because they was losing. They wasn't down by five. So that means nothing no one did.

That whole sequence counts as clutch in their new terminology. Right. Up until they were down five. Down five. They were like down 11. So that means he was 13. That first shot, that second shot, that third shot means nothing. No.

According to what you're saying. According to what they're saying. Now, as a basketball player, 33 seconds, 13 points. Wasn't it all clutch? Yes. And that's the problem here. But that's what I'm saying with the five minutes. The five minutes, you get to segment the levels of clutch.

What we're talking about with T-Mac, that's the highest level of clutch because it's 33 seconds left and you got 13 points. That's the highest level. But everything else under that doesn't mean it's not clutch. But what I'm saying is he will be considered the most. No, he would only get credited for like three points. No. Yes!

The rule is five minutes under five. So 13, when he hit a 13 and it goes to 10, don't count. They shoot free throws. They miss a free throw, make a free throw. it goes to 10 don't count they shoot free throws They miss a free throw make a free throw his next three don't count They hit a free throw he comes out hit a three that don't count None of that counts until it's five and under and that's what I'm saying So for at for us, we're like that whole per for all 33 seconds is clutch but if the game was at five or below for the whole five minutes,

all the points he scored within that would have been clutch. That's the point. Yeah, but if it's above that, though, and he gets it down to be able to win the game. Within five minutes or 33 seconds. It don't matter. Five minutes. It doesn't matter.

That's what I'm saying. They're creating. All this stuff is being created to push a narrative towards something or away from something. So why do they do fourth quarter points? They do the staff for fourth quarter. This guy in the fourth quarter. We do not shame that. We do not shun it.

We accept that this guy in the fourth quarter averaging. He performances better in the fourth quarter. Right. And then they change that to start using clutch clutch points now You can let's just say we play in the game and the game is close in five Right and we sitting there getting buckets. We both scored 20 points We both got 20 clutch points and none of us really did anything clutch. We didn't hit no clutch shot. We didn't hit a game winner.

We didn't do shit. But because it's five minutes and shit, there's still about 30 possessions into this game, we collecting a whole bunch of points that really don't have nothing to do with the game yet. It does. It don't. It's the score. The score. The balance of the score has everything to do. Because it's a close game.

It's a close game. So now I can, now i can now because i created this little context of something now someone like steph curry becomes unclutched because he doesn't play in the fourth quarter somebody like michael jordan whose teams was better than everybody else he don't have a lot of clutch points because they was beating the fuck out of everybody but he's the best clutch player right because the clutch means the difficulty of what you're supposed to like. So the end of the shot or you're down or you need this bucket, the intensity of the game itself is what makes it clutch.

Not five. We're down five with five minutes left. When you need a bucket, if it's three seconds on the shot clock with three minutes to go and you hit this shot in the corner, that's a clutch shot. You need to hit that. You got to hit that. That's a clutch shot. You got to hit it, but... That's a clutch shot.

No, it's not. Yes, it is. I can't measure that and Michael Jordan's clutch shot. You both get three points. But Michael Jordan has clutch moments. Those are the clutch moments. But what I'm saying is the way it's so bland, you're allowed to put your three at 459 in the same category as motherfucking Michael Jordan's game-winning three.

If he shot a game-winning three or Ray Allen's three, we get to put you in the same category. No. It's not the same. But it's not the same category because one of them was a game winner. Was it a game winner for Ray Allen? Tie game. Tie game go to overtime, nigga. We lose or not.

So the clutch points doesn't mean that that moment wasn't as big as it was supposed to be. We're just talking about the accumulation of points in this moment. But what I'm saying is we both get the same. But what I'm saying is you get three points, I got three points. Now, if we don't put this into context and we say, all right, these two players,

you would think these both are on the same clutch pattern. You know what I mean? So if Kenyon is not doing the same type of game win as you are, but he has more clutch points than you, you're saying he don't really deserve those clutch points because he don't have the moments yeah let's say yeah let's say he's he's doing all his dunking power and from minutes from the in the four minutes and then the last 10 shots he don't take it because they're going to the game when the last minute and you know i'm scoring mine in clutch and i gotta hit the game when you come down and score the score and we're on the same

trajectory in clutch points. It seems that's what they're doing. Because Kenyon's dunks are keeping you in the game for you to be clutch. His dunks are keeping you, the score at this level and he's accumulating the points

for you to have the clutch moment. He has the most clutch points because he helped the team get in this position. But that's what I'm saying. It's something that's just being, that's what I'm saying.

They're creating something. Now you got to think about it like who's create, it's not basketball players or basketball. No, no, no. We're not doing that. Creating this thing. It's someone trying to figure out how to be smarter than someone else. And they're creating things like, let's say it's a Bron fan. They want to get over Michael Jordan, right? So now I have to figure out a stat that puts him in this category to say, oh, he has more clutch points. Or this person has this. True shooting percentage. He shoots 72%. No.

Yeah. How the fuck you go from averaging, you're shooting 42% to jump up to 72% in true shooting percentage? Because if you take away threes, you shoot 42%. I'm sorry. That's just a fact, right? Just say, hey, just invisible.

Yeah, you took a 23-foot shot. It's a 23-foot two-pointer. Calculated together, 42%. You don't jump up to 72%. That's not how you do it. Because nobody back in fucking 61 shot 70

something percent. They're bricks. Goddamn it. Anything past 16 feet, brick. So is that true percentage, true shooter percentage of 71 actually good? No, it's... I don't think that's good. No, they're...

I think like 88. It's not real. Is that good? I think so. It's not real. If you're doing free throws, threes, and twos, and it goes from 42 to 72, including it, instead of like... I would say that's solid.

That's solid? Very, very... What would that that's solid. That's solid? Very, very... What would that look like then, between the three? The two-pointer, the three-pointer, and the free throw. What would those percentages look like to reach 72? Would it be like, what, 40% from the field, 38% from three, 80% from the free throw line? That's what I said. It's someone that never played basketball that came up with it.

You're coming up with a calculation. If you shoot 42%, 30%, it's someone trying to figure out how to make someone look good that we don't know about. That's weird. Relevant in this shit, man. Yeah. They bringing in statistics. If you shoot 38% from the three and your total is shooting 50% from the field, motherfucker, you shoot 38% from the three and your total is shooting 50% from the field motherfucker you shoot 50% from the field if we take

away your threes you're shooting 50% from the field no matter how you look at 50% right add the free throws though what is what did what happened that's what they've been doing add the free throws is if we add the free throws where's your free throw percentage? 86%? Whatever. That's what you shoot from the free throw percentage. I can't add a non-guarded shot into guarded shooting.

That is stupid. How the fuck are you even? This is stupid. Yeah, yeah. You're shooting free. Some of the free throws you shoot, bitch, everybody back right? I get to shoot this bitch by myself, right? How was that calculated into something that's with defense? This?

So good. We asked to chat. Oh, Sire. Come on, y'all. I'm just here to host. How do they have that? I need a check. All right?

I need some Gucci shoes like Kenya had back in the day. It's just... Getting ever so close. But we asked the chat who takes the Sixers last shot More than 2,000 votes 39% said Paul George and fans. Love this BPA mileage is this. Like, you know what? Where they had them conversations? And if there was no defense, I would shoot 100%. Maybe

99 because I might fuck around and fuck off a free throw because I'd be thinking this shit too easy. Right? It's like, come on. Like, it's just fantasy stats to try to make a player seem better than they really are. I shot 40-something percent from the field. You add my 86% free throw to try to make me shoot better than I really did? No, nigga.

I shot 42. The shit I was taking was a little difficult, okay? You can't add my free throw percentage into shots that's being guarded by two or three people. It's stupid. So before we move on to Mostly Fans, we have a special announcement. Season two has been special for all of us here on the couch. And to celebrate a job well done, Gills Arena is throwing a backyard boogie on Saturday, August 31st at 1130 AM Pacific. Labor Day weekend.

Come pull up, turn up with the entire Gills Arena crew. We'll be out here getting, Gil will have all types of assortments and snacks and refreshments, some beverage. And we know y'all ain't got shit to do. I'm gonna just tell y'all sorry now, fellas. I'm sorry. What you sorry about, Gil?

Before I got engaged, y'all had all the hoes here. You know what I mean? All night long. Why are you apologizing? Huh? What you talking about? I know you... Call him anyway. What the fuck is you talking about? We will have... He ain't got the numbers no more.

Special Bible study. Give me the book. I threw the book. Give me the book. Threw the book in the trash can. How dare you? Burned it. How dare you? Which trash can was it? Oh, go in that bitch. The one over there, you just go out there and make a laugh, and then the cold is.

The cold to the safe is. It's a special. I need that. I need that. It's a special backyard boogie pool party. We will also be doing baptisms in the pool to celebrate Gil's newfound allegiance to the Lord and changing of his ways. Make sure y'all pull up with us. And note, the special time,

it'll be Saturday, August 31st, 1130 a.m. Everybody who can't pull up, you can watch it on YouTube with us. Celebrate the end of season two as we look ahead to season three. But now let's move on to Mostly Fans, presented by our friends here at Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. You can get up to

$1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So our first question. I don't even want to know what y'all are doing. His promo to the Backyard Boogie is way better. You have a... Okay, well that's... I'm just saying.

We can have offline. I'm just saying. You asked me what it was. I have a... Okay, well, that's... I'm just saying. A discussion we can have offline. I'm just saying. You asked me what it was. I have a promo as well. Yeah, your promo. Bible study and baptism. Spread it out. That looked like a backyard boogie.

Hey. That's well done. This is y'all shirt right there. Look like a whole bunch of married men going to be there. As a reminder, we do have security at the gate. We will not be letting you in if you are not on the list. She look exotic right now. But let's move on. Our first

MostlyFans questions from underdog user Real Zaza said, Will y'all ever make a trip here to San Antonio to watch Wimby play? And would y'all record a podcast here in the city? Would love to have you all. Is Gils Rina ever coming to San Antonio? To see Wimby.

Never say never. Never say never. Huh? I thought there was somebody from France asking to come over there. We, we. So, Real Zaza, we very well may pull up to San Antonio. Let us connect with underdogs, see if we can make it work. Who flies there from here?

South Wales? How do you? All I know is Charles Barkley said there's some nice work down there. Barkley says nice work down there I don't know if he said that no nice work down there for 20 years he said opposite workers compensation is a nice work that he like work that he considered not nice it's not because he called all them big big big girls yeah and girls. Yeah. They need love, too. Coming from a big dude. They need love, too.

They need love, too. So our next question is from underdog user jrock14. Should the NBA institute a four-point line? Mm. No. No? They added a three-point line. That's cool.

Natural advancement. Cool. No? Whatever. Can you be wholesome? Yeah. Three is enough? No, I think they need to. Came they added a three-point line in school natural advancement Keep it hosting Yeah, three was enough. No, I think they need to I want to just a big three for the bit the big three Uh, this one shooting percentages. Yeah, man. I Mean you see Damon I'm shooting from that deep man. I'm sure get credit get a credit for it. Okay? Yeah, you're on with a four-point line

You get your innovator. You brought us Gil's Arena presented by $100 Fantasy. Woof, woof. Woof, woof. I say no because you're going to have people out there that shouldn't be shooting them off because they're trying to shoot them. Yeah. I feel like we see that now.

We do. That's what I'm saying. I just be looking at like, and now I can see why the older generation starts to really look. They can't accept the new generation. Like, think about all the dudes that, the scoring before the three-point line, right? Before the three-point line, these are all the points. Now you have a three-point line, so yeah, you can catch me easier. Yeah. Now when a four-point line come, you know, you're talking

about, you know, you're going to wipe history through. Right? Somebody coming in there just shooting a whole bunch of four-pointers. I mean, so I look at it like that, trying to preserve some of these stats, but, you know, if it's better for the game and they think it's going, you know, they think it's going to look good, motherfuckers throwing that shit

from, you know, half-court, all right. Good luck. They think it's gonna look good. Motherfuckers throwing that shit from half court. All right. Good luck. After the first couple air balls, I'm off it. You gotta hit that shit if you're gonna shoot that shit. Before we get off on the test. Hey, Ken, you got something you want to? Oh, yeah, no.

I remember the story when we was in Vegas. Young man that came through, and his mom had the same algebra two teacher. Yeah. Well, that same teacher, Ms. McCarty, man, she's not doing well right now. So I just wanted to send her some love on the air, man. I got the message yesterday she's not doing too well. So I just wanted to send her some love, man, encouragement to her and her family.

It takes a village, like I said, to message, man, you are part of my village. You are a reason, one of the main reasons that I was able to be successful So I want to show send you some love and hope everything works out I mean that lets you know how impactful that you know, she was to you and What's the names mother the fact that you guys remember after all of these years so, you know, hopefully she hit a message and you know, she's smiling and she, you know, has a full recovery. Absolutely. And before we leave our show today, also, you know, there's a ton of talented men who went behind the scenes

that make this show possible. So we want to salute our very own director, Paolo Grassini. It's his birthday today. Happy birthday! Paolo, you do about 17 different jobs. Every time I'm at Gil's house, he here working on something, tinkering on something. We would not have the show that we have without Paolo.

So we want to wish you happy birthday, Paolo. Appreciate you, Paolo. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. And I want to shout out to my little nephew. He just made his first football team. OK. 13, man. Congratulations, Braylon.

And we're going to be doing a little raffle. You gave me the raffle idea. You know what I'm saying? It was pretty dope. So I'm going to start doing a lot of giveaways and stuff. Hey, Tiger football? Hmm? Tiger football?

Here? Hmm? What team? Trojans, Eagles? Eagles. Ooh. Turn up. Mm-hmm. Here? What team? Trojans, Eagles? Eagles. Turn up. Well, appreciate all you fine gentlemen here on this couch.

Appreciate everybody at home that taps in with us, even when it's August, middle of summer, no basketball for a while, but we still got Gil's Arena. Move around, podcast, baby. Somebody said, Paulo should have had a day off. Hell no. Paulo don't get no days off. You better bring your ass to work, Paulo. He don't need to celebrate his birthday right now.

What? Paulo just got married. Paulo just got married, man. He happy to be here. You can't listen. You can't have a... That motherfucker married. That man said,

man, when is work? Going to jail. When is work? He said, I do. She said, I do. When we work in the bar, when y'? Going to Gil. When is work? She said, I do. We working tomorrow? When y'all coming back from Vegas? But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Whoa, whoa. See y'all tomorrow.