Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Jamal Murray's Max Extension

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

Gil's Arena reacts to Jamal Murrays MAX Extension with the Denver Nuggets. But are him and Nikola Jokic still NBA Championship contenders in the Mile High City?! The Crew also discusses Klay Thompson's upcoming season with the Dallas Mavericks. Mark Cuban says he will have an easier life with Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. Is this TRUE?! Finally, LeBron James is set on owning an NBA team when he is done playing. But how soon is his eventual retirement for the league coming? At 39 years old how much time does he really have left?! Find out this and more NBA topics on today's Gil's Arena podcast. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick "SwaggyP" Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:01 Rudy Gobert MMA 0:05:01 Romo vs Bledsoe 0:19:31 Jamal Murray Extension 0:36:58 Denver Championship Window 1:00:17 Russell Westbrook Slander 1:06:10 Klay Thompson To Mavericks 1:26:29 NBA Rookies & Trash Teams 1:41:13 LeBron's Future in Team Ownership 2:08:29 Mostly Fans 2:34:48 Show Wrap 2:48:29 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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that four-time defensive player of the year, Rudy Gobert, has been getting and what he could do to change the narrative. Our own Nick Young suggested that he socked Gil, or one of the current players in the league, to send a message that he wasn't one to trifle with. Well, it appears that Gobert may be making the necessary precautions and preparations

for that. So we got some video of him getting some MMA work in. It's a start. Stick and move, big fella. Stick and move. Oh. Oh. Dropped.

Almost. Almost. Dropped. He leaving that? Man, he almost got dropped. Got him. Right there, he got dropped. Sacre bleu.

So, this video service recently with Gobert and doing some MM training. Who was that? Was it Cyril Gane? Cyril Gane. Cyril Gane. So, of course, Swaggy P took credit for this on Twitter, addressing Gobert directly with the following tweet. He said, hey, Rudy Gobert, I see you boxing. Now all you got to do next is roll up to Gil's arena,

drop him while he's talking sports, and you good. LOL. DM me for a dress. I'll leave the gate open. Or we can wait till we play the Warriors. I can help you sneak in the locker room, and we can get Draymond. We. LOL.

I didn't know Nick had beef with Draymond, too. He's going to escort him into the locker room. Gil, are you't know Nick had beef with Draymond to He go escorted me to the locker room Yeah, are you nervous at all about Rudy go bear potentially pulling up on you and give you that MMA work? Yeah I'm as nervous as he was on a guy who was playing defense the whole time, but his ass is flinching. Like Rudy, he just hit the mitts, dog. Just hit the mitts. Just hit the target, dog.

He ain't going to really throw no real punches for you to be flinching moving backwards. But, hey, it's a good start for cardio. That looks like a cardio workout. Get some good cardio in there. Kenyon, obviously, is our resident fight expert. No. Do you have any tips for Rudy Gobert? I'm just...

Technique-wise. Fine, it's 7'2". It ain't so much... It's only going to look a certain way. Fucking 7'2", 7'3". It's not going to be fluid. Trust me. How long he train?

He's just too tall for the sport. But for cardio, if that's what he's doing, he feel he need to protect himself, maybe. I don't know. If that's the reason he's doing it, kudos to him. You know what I'm saying? Working with Sam Seargon is, hey. After the situation last season with Draymond,

it would seem only right. Put your dukes up. He's getting his Daniel Simon karate kit on. Yeah, but, and Draymond put him in one of them MMA chokeholds, so Draymond just didn't know what he was doing because he could have put him to sleep. Like, had he had his hand in the right place, he could have put him to sleep. With no tap outs.

Brandon, what did you think about Gobert getting them? He would have tapped out the game. Hey, man, hey, hey, hey, hey. I mean, hey, it's a start. It starts somewhere in life. Why not? Obviously, Gobert got beef with Draymond. Shaq may or may not have called him

the worst player of all time, the Wolt. When you start off boxing or whatever, wait till you like... Become good. Yeah, wait till you like already... No, but to his credit, he's been doing something because his stance already. You can tell he ain't... Like, he's been working on something already. Like, he's been doing it.

That wasn't his first time. Let me see this again. That wasn't his first time. Can we see... Like, that wasn't really his first time. Yoga fire. Drop again. That wasn't his first time. Can we see? That wasn't really his first time. Yoga fire. Drop. But still, he's been...

Punch, let it go. He's been working on his stance, his feet are wide. Most people, dudes don't know how to do that already. You know what I'm saying? He's not bringing his feet together. He's keeping his feet wide. Seven foot nine wingspan. He got knocked right there.

Yeah, because he's a professional MMA fighter. He's a heavyweight belt. He's had a belt in the heavyweight division. MMA and boxing is two different things, because MMA, they don't protect their face when they punch. Because they're used to trying to grab and... Yeah, they're used to stuff like this. So you can see when Rudy punches, it's...

So Gobert is a parent. He's been boxing yeah yeah they're practicing boxing this is new to me he would have kicked the shit out of it so go go drop him with a kick in his body now he's late kick him now it won't even be number leg kick yeah somebody that size oh they'll break him right down first a first minute of the fight they'll break him right down all leg kicks yeah there's been doing in jujitsu for years, even before he was into basketball. So he said, I was boxing before I started basketball,

and then when I really started to focus on basketball, I got away from boxing for a long time. But for the last three or four years, I got back on track, and I get better every summer. Then also in regards to the training, he doesn't train me just to do cardio or like the Instagram models do. It's really like he's teaching me to use my reach and how to defend against guys in different ways they will go at me

the footwork the skill so yeah it's really great to learn some different stuff i guess my question is where was you can tell though but where was this training i couldn't get to him okay ran up from behind him shit hey no no he, he learned the best part of it. Yeah. He tapped. He tapped. He tapped. So that explains why he...

He was so quick to tap. He got me. Oh, shit! And on a serious note, what do you think about... I mean, I know we were joking about it last week, but Nick saying that he needs to try somebody just to send a message. I mean, yeah. It's too late.

It's too late. It's not too late. It is. This is just the beginning. Is it never too late? This was just the beginning. I'm telling you. Either you him or you're not.

He bought the show. There's no learning. Here's what I told Blake, right? First game. Because people are hard-filing Blake, right? Yeah.. Because people are hard-fouling Blake, right? Like, Blake, you got to return the favor, dog. Like, you got to go out and run through somebody. You too big, man.

Yeah. You 6'10", 260. You got to go out and make an example out of somebody because we was playing in New Orleans. What's the kid, Jason Smith? Yeah. Flagrant, too. Kicked him out the game.

He walking out the arena. They kicked him out the game. He walking out doing his shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He hyping up the crowd because they... I'm like, no, dude. You're going to go sneak.

Oh, I'm going to get him. I told you, you got to get him back, man. Yeah. You better fight back! No, next time you play him, you got to get him. You got to get him back.

Don't worry about getting kicked out. You can't worry about that shit at that point. Open up the game. You going to have to make an example of somebody in that manner, but for Rudy don't worry about getting kicked out. No, you can't worry about that shit at that point. Open up the gate. You go. You're going to have to make an example of somebody in that manner. But for Rudy, I think it's too late. And just for you.

It'll just be one of those rough years where, like, it has to be a Draymond Green year. Oh, he got to start knocking people out there. Where he getting 16, 18, flagrant fouls. Like knocking people out there. They coming there to dunk that bitch. Like coming there to dunk that bitch like coming to dunk that motherfucker take the shot what i'm saying is technical what i'm saying is defense

approach yeah defensive fuck trying to block defensive uh player of the year he won't get that yeah doing this this is just yeah this feeling beer type bullshit this is what i'm fucking you up go to the basket if y'all gonna stop this shit and it's gonna be one of those i knew the search is you drive to the basket and my intention was Yeah, y'all gonna stop this shit. It's gonna be one of those. I knew certain shit. You drive to the basket, and my intention was to do it. As soon as you, whatever happened, I'm here. Hey. Bop.

I did it. Filed it. Right here. Ain't no need no question about who did it. They looking and saying, what number? That's my favorite thing. Do it. Step over you.

Do all that. You gotta start becoming disrespectful at this motherfucker for people to take him serious. When it's a blatant obvious foul on somebody, they put their hand up as if the refs have trouble figuring out who was on. Listen, if he start acting like that, Minnesota's going to the championship.

That is the difference. You know what? Because one, it'd deter a lot of people from driving. Because be honest, a lot of people don't want to get hit. A lot of, especially guards. Guards don't want to get hit no a lot of especially guards guards don't want to get hit so you're talking about most of the high level players in the nba

or guards you can keep them at bay you start laying wood on people yeah like jock coming that motherfucker with that lean shit like this just jump right fucking to him jaw would jaw would have never tried that on someone like shaquille. Like, knock him? No, because Shaq is going to hit one time. All it's going to take is one time. You try to lean, and he hits you with that body, and you fall on your wrist, elbow, back of your head. Trust me. Yeah, that'll be your first and last.

He's going to be floating. Floating that thing. Hey, you fella. And that might be, he might not want to float that. He's just going to jump. He's still going to jump it to you. Yeah, he's still jumping to you. See, me, like, if you float me, I'm still going to jump it jump to you. Yeah, right you go you if your momentum going this way you float it

I'm gonna jump right into you and shag you to do it when you try to dunk on it I'm first to fight them like shacks first two fouls is gonna hurt. Yeah, so he might be spread out It might be one the first one the second but you a this one in the first and one in a second Oh that third one's gonna hurt in the third. Yeah, because he's ready. Because now he got four fouls going into the... Oh, my God.

Yeah, because he's gonna use them. That's what Rogan can do. Because he don't want nobody to test him. Yeah. So we talk a lot... I don't know if people understand what you're saying.

Shaq ain't never seen someone coming and been dunked on. Yeah, no. Like, he probably, like, been snuck one in, like, some sneak stuff or a tip dunk. Or caught up the rim real quick. Yeah, something like that

But he ain't been that Vince Carter on so put that thing here and use one-on-one or brah coming down the middle I feel like no There's no blocking at that point. Yeah, cuz he gonna he's gonna turn his body in the air you gonna jump He gonna jump a little bit. Whatever high he needs to jump off the ground. He's just going to turn, and you're going to eat all that. That's what Rudy's got to start doing, man. You got to make yourself out of it. That's crazy.

When you come, he never jumped like this. It's always. Yeah. He makes them, like, you have to jump over all of it. Instead of, like, straight up here. He turning. Boom. All that. Hip, you hitting. And he all of it. Instead of, like, straight up here, you go boom. All that hip, you're hitting.

And you ain't like he's skinny. He's strong as ever. He was all of 395, 400 at one point. Going to try to dunk on that man, dog. So, Rudy, four-time defensive player of the year. But you guys' guards, just when you see a big like that, like a Shaq, it seems like nowadays guys don't really fear Rudy. He may be, obviously, a great defensive player, like a Shaq, it seems like nowadays guys don't really fear Rudy. He may be obviously a great defensive player, but going at him, attacking him at the rim,

they're not really worried about him. People didn't figure him out. Yeah, but when you see a big like that, how much of that deter you from wanting to even go to the cup? Him, JaVale, because you know they're trying to block your shot, right? They're trying to not get in foul trouble, so they're trying to literally block

your shot, so if you're a creative guard, you do not fear these dudes. Like Ant-Man with his jumping ability, John Moran, he's not afraid of this guy because this guy is literally trying to block his shot. Now if the guy was trying to foul him or put him out the air, then you're going to second-guess yourself. Then you'd be more creative. Yeah, you'd be more creative in how you jump. You're reluctant

to leave your feet. Even people who take charges. Okay. Like Rudy, like just, he blocks shots, but he is, he a pump fake dummy.

Yeah. Because he want to block, like dude, he going to jump, dog. He going to jump every time because he's so eager

to block the shot. All them dudes, they just, they ain't learn. Even though he do what he do, he ain't learn to stay down. He just got long-ass arms, so his timing after he come down, he might. But, yeah. I can't name one big right now in the NBA that's like, that you fear like going to the rim against.

Well. Like, I don't think it's one. Steven Adams will put you on your back pocket. Yeah, but he wasn't playing last year But he'll put you on your wallet, though It's a very small list of you put you on as big one. I think you can try all of them This is I mean cuz they put you on your way to get try so much to yeah. Yeah, cuz ain't nobody out there He's not that athletic and do much,

but Nurkic, I haven't seen him... Lazing people out? Yeah, he'll put you on your wallet. Not... And his part ain't even intentional. And that's why I say, man, there's no... There's no veteran to teach these guys. Like, all you need is one big who understood,

yo, make your first foul the most important one, right? Remember I said when you go and somebody go in the layup, first thing you do is go 10. Okay, shit, he's there. That's all it does. Okay, he's there. He's going to be around. So when you're going for the layup,

you're looking, I'm looking for you, right? Same thing with Shaq. Shaq's very first foul was so hard that you'd be like, ooh, I don't want to feel that, right? So now whoever's guarding me, you have a better chance stopping me because I'm not going to do anything to get past you. I want to shoot jumpers now until he's out of the game. So now 90% of Shaq's defense is because people are taking jump shots now because they don't want to be hit by him.

Same thing with Bill and Beer and the Bad Boys. Their physical play was a deterrent. They couldn't move like that. But if they hit you so hard that you want to shoot jumpers, great. Good job, big fella. That is the key to some of this stuff. Make your first foul count. You will see people start taking more jumpers.

Yeah, like B said, there's nobody in the league, man, to... Nobody like that. Chat's saying beef stew, but... Isaiah Stewart. Uh... He don't... Is he a shot blocker, though? No, but Isaiah Stewart. He don't. Is he a shot blocker, though? No, he plays defense.

Is he a shot blocker? Just somebody you know. So you got to be a shot blocker, too. Yeah, but I think Josh still come down and try. Like, I think Josh try any man in the league. Right, you got to be able to block shots as well. You just can't. I mean, it feels like Wimby really the only one, but. Real thin.

Yeah, he don't play. Real thin. What? Too thin in his pocket. For some reason, when they see him on the move. Anthony Davis could be one of those types. Joel Embiid has the body size to be one of those types. Yeah. Tried just to be just vicious to the point where. Jumping into people. Yeah. Just jumping into people. But he got to save some of his fouls for offense. Yeah, because he's going to run somebody over. He'll get you. He got the ball. All right, let's keep this thing moving. We're going to talk a little football.

Kenny, I know you said we talk too much Lakers, so we're going to talk your former favorite team, Cowboys, to help balance it out just a tad. So former NFL quarterback Drew Bledsoe was a four-time pro bowler during his career, but also lost his starting job to both Tom Brady when he was with the Patriots and Tony Romo when he was with the Cowboys. So Brady got the job in 2001 due to injury,

never looked back, leading the Patriots to six Super Bowls. Romo replaced Bledsoe midway through the 2006 season, led the Cowboys to four playoff appearances, but it never advanced past the divisional round. So Bledsoe made an appearance on ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown, discussed the differences between how Brady and Romo handled becoming a full-time starter. In Dallas, Parcells made the decision to yank me at halftime of the game and throw Romo in there. Really didn't agree with that one.

If you're watching this, Romo, you know this is true. The minute that he became the starter, he became pretty big in his own mind. And he was no longer the curious and inquisitive guy. What I was the difference between him and Tommy, Tommy became the starter, he still was asking all the questions, where all of a sudden Romo was the guy that had all the answers. So let's shift it just to basketball, because we are a basketball slash football show,

but did you see guys who changed up once they got paid or moved to a starting role kind of like bless? I was saying Romo did And then be it All the time not listening not I See you guys get paid a certain like that part of it, but not because they Because it's not like the backup got, like,

Gil wasn't going to lose his job to Nick, right? Mm-hmm. And then have to sit around to, like, give Nick all the knowledge. So it's yeah That don't happen in the NBA, right? For a guy to get paid. I mean I'm to get your job And for you to have to stick like you got to stick around. Yeah For you to for you to be a backup to take someone's job and

Then he goes Hollywood He would lose it right back. Right? So, you know, what he's saying is he went Hollywood and now he thinks he's bigger than everybody else. Yeah, because he wasn't asking him for information. Without any knowledge. You can't do that in basketball because, God damn it, I got a C tomorrow and I want my spot back.

So now I'm coming at your head. So you don't really have time to celebrate and now you want to be Allen Iverson. You can't do that. Yeah. Right? Because I'm trying to get my shit back. Yeah, because he explained... So I was watching it live.

He was when it was on. He was... So he compared it to Tom Brady, right? So when he lost his job to Tom Brady, Tom Brady was still asking questions and was still inquisitive about certain things, this, that, and the third. Romo didn't do that. Once Romo got the job, he was like,

I'm Brett Favre now. Like, you're Aaron Rodgers to me now. I don't owe you nothing, right? This is basically what he was carrying it as. So like Brett Favre said when he got the job, when Aaron Rodgers was there, he was like, well, it's not got the job When Aaron Rodgers was there He was like Well it's not my job To get Aaron Rodgers ready It's not

Like this is my job right now I don't care if he develops or not Basically Well he still has He still has something left in the tank And he didn't even draft Aaron Rodgers So it's the same thing I'm saying Bledsoe still has to feel like

He has something in the tank But Romo wasn't asking him For the advice no more That he was seeking while he was the Backup while he was the backup. He was humble. Yeah Course you have to be in that situation Because you just started quarterback don't normally lose their job unless you playing like shit you get hurt or yeah You said Parcell made the decision so that was his guy so when he got the job he took off

So he started playing well when he took over. He got a lot of regular season success, so it ain't like he took over and sucked. And it was like, yeah, we should have gave it to Drew. Yeah, Drew, you want the job back? Like, it didn't go that way. So he was really beaming on them, huh? Yeah.

Really beaming. Absolutely. I listened to Cameroon when he died. Yeah. Exactly. Wally Pipp, baby. And just for you. Yeah, absolutely Wally Pip, baby it just for you Yeah, Wally Pip And just for you guys making that transition when you're a league into a veteran role Did you guys were you willing to give back that information to younger players? And did they did they come get it for you or they kind of?

stubborn in their approach? No, I've always been to give back and talk to guys if I see something that could help, especially young bigs. I do it to this day, but still, yeah, when I'm playing, if I'm out there, if I'm on the bench and I see something that can help you, because it's helping us, right? Yeah.

Like, I don't want to... So this is the thing about vets, right? I don't want to play 40-something minutes into the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So during the regular season, I was cool with playing my 34 a night, my 33-34 a night.

But if that 33-34 a night was 27, 26 that time, I didn't care. I wanted you to go play well so I could sit over there, bitch, in game number 47 of the season and relax today. Right? So if I see something that could help in game 22, right, I'm going to help you. I'm going to say it.

Because in game 47, I might, hey, young fella, I ain't got it today, dog. Yeah. Right? So you're paying it forward. It might not ever come to that situation, but you're paying it forward just for his knowledge of the game. You're helping him out.

It ain't nothing for me to tell you, hey, young fella, on this play you need to be here instead of there. So why don't you put your hand here in the post instead of if the guy spins on you, I ask you a question, right? So why do you think you got spun off? You'd be like, I don't know. See, why he spun?

Because you had this on the baseline side. So he felt that. He's a great offensive player. So he used that at your advantage. So why don't you have this on the baseline side? And you still have two hands. So I'm going to tell you that, right? It ain't nothing for me to help you out in that manner.

On the pick and roll, instead of setting this angle, why don't you turn this way? Your roll will be quicker so you can get this. It ain't nothing for me to tell you that, right? But their sport is different because I'm not, because I know what I bring to the table. So I can give it to you. I can give it to you because I'm not threatened by you taking my job.

Exactly. At no point. In that sport? No, no, no. I'm saying me. In our sport. In our sport, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And me. I'm speaking on me, right? I was never threatened by any big that I played with in the league. If I got to the team late or not, it didn't matter. I was never threatened by any other big that I played with. Because I know what I bring to the table is greater than anything that you can do. It doesn't matter how many. So, and their sport ain't the same.

You fucking, tomorrow it can be over. Like, you can come in and throw for 300 today and they can have a meeting and be like, we want to switch directions. And that's just a decision, which is crazy. And then for you guys, when you were young, how much were you leaning on vets to help teach you the game? Or did there come a point during your career

where you started to really... No, I mean, all the way in, I mean, you know, even when I was making all-star games, all-NBA, you know, I when I was making all-star games, all NBA, you know, you know, I'm leaning, you know, to Chucky Atkins, right? You know, trying to understand what he sees, what I need to do better, you know.

You know, because once you're locked in, you're locked in, so really besides the coach, because coach is locked into his coach, all I have is players on the bench, you know. Am I missing somebody? Is somebody open? Chucky be like this. Nah, you just keep shooting.

Right, Chucky? Say that shit. Hey, man, hey, man. Hey, people need to eat out here, too. So here's the thing. You ain't got it tonight, boss. All pass the ball. Yeah.

All right, all right. You know what I mean? Because when you're playing 3 for 15, 3 for 17. It can get real ugly out there sometimes. You don't know it. You're still trying to force it. And you need somebody to be like, hey, it ain't your night. Yeah. Pass the rock.

Why? How about yourself, Brennan? I think for me coming in, I definitely depended on my vets because I came in starting. So I needed the Luke Rittnars, the Kurt Thomases, the Jerry Stackhouses, those guys, and Scott Scouts to talk to me. And we made the playoffs the rookie year, so I was thrown into the fire early. So a lot of things like Michael Redd, anything, I was always trying to take knowledge. So you said you come... But to piggyback on what you just said, right,

and what Drew Bledsoe did and the tom brady situation that tony romo and him didn't what you just said you will go to chucky atkins because he has the best view because he played the same position as you so he's seeing shit in time real time it ain't just pass the ball or not pass the ball. He's telling you, hey, you missed such and such on that pick and roll right there. Hey, Gil, run that again. Hey, Twan, open. Right? You come off, oh, shit. Now, Twan got his little, so it's that as well what Tom Brady was doing for, I mean, what Drew Bledsoe was doing for Tom Brady that night. He was still coming and asking questions. And Romo was like, no, I mean, what Drew Bledsoe was doing for Tom Brady, that man, he was still coming and asking questions. And Romo was like, no, I got it.

So it was like he got the ball at the top of the key and Chuckie over there like, yeah, he over here. He was like, no, nigga, I got this. Sit down. Right? So it's that situation. So it could go either way. It depends on the level of success.

And it just depends on the person. Right? Yeah, my locker was right next to the backup guard either way. Yeah. It depends on the level of success and it just depends on the person, right? Yeah, my locker was right next to the backup guard or my shooting guard. Right, that's how I said it. So, Chuckie Adkins

sat next to me or Antonio Daniels. Right, so, like, I can, at halftime, like, yo, what's going on? Did you see what you, you know?

Yeah. And then, Brandon, for yourself, you said you came in starter. Did you know right away you were starting? Was there any competition in training camp or anything to get that position?

And were the other guards on the team receptive? No, I definitely wasn't starting at first. I had to prove myself, training camp, going against Luke Renard, you know, a solid vet, you know, great vet in the league. And then it didn't come until, like, preseason, until, like, my third or second game in preseason. Then he told me I was starting, and then it was just like go time. But I had a lot of vets, you know.

I had a lot of good vets, though, too. Speaking on that, how much did Michael Red help you being another lefty on how to get your shit off in the league? Well, we didn't play. We only played a couple games, so we didn't really get to play a lot. Just the knowledge, though. Oh, yeah. Just the knowledge on how to get your shot off.

Oh yeah. Get another lefty. Yeah. Yeah, just to get my shot off. Just learning angles. You know, we used to do the, what is it, the floppy a lot. So when he used to come off, always be ready. Just certain angles and things like that was good.

Okay. Who else? Kurt Thomas was really good with me. Just learning how to come off the pick and roll and be patient. Yeah. You know, he was like, oh, he always be to be like, man, young fella, just wait. Like, I'm going to get him. Just wait.

You know, I used to be so anxious, you know, you coming in. So just teaching patience and, you know, just learning how to just play with a big, like, coming off the ball. Yeah, I told you the same thing. Listen, I'm going to get you open. Yeah, yeah. Blow your little ass down. Hey, you get ready to go, nigga.

I'll stop. Hey, man. Yeah. Because you're not finna get. The one thing you're not finna do, nigga, is get me a moving screen. I'm going to be pissed at you. you. And Kurt would have been hot you because I need them on the other end, right? I need

them on the other end because I gotta go guard somebody. You can't get me no moving screen. Easy on me. I was excited. Yeah, yeah. Easy, easy. I got you. Just let me hit him. Let me get him. You're gonna to get your shot. I used to tell them, hey, one of us is going to get a shot.

Either you're going to get a wide open jumper or I'm just going to be a... Just let me get you. Him and Bogut, too. Yeah, Bogut was good, too, for me. That's what's up. And the chat is trying to make comparisons with this Romo situation and Jordan Poole. I feel like it's different, though. I think Poole was the warrior.

I knew that was going to come up. Yeah. Jordan Poole got paid, right it's different though. I knew that was going to come up. Jordan Poole got paid. But got paid with the Warriors, it seemed like obviously Steph, Clay, Draymond, that crew obviously pre-punched to keep him under. But you got strong veteran leadership, but now you go to

Washington and you kind of run in the show. It's a different experience. But he didn't take anybody's spot in Golden State. No, but I think they were just saying, like, just when you do get the spot, like, when you do get paid, I think one of the questions was when you do get paid, how do people change?

Change up once they get paid. I don't think he... How paid did he get the big head in Golden State? That's what got him punched. Yeah. Well, that was... Listen, dog, let's call a spade a spade, dog. Go ahead, you're right.

I ain't saying it was a sole reason. Yeah. I wasn't there, I just know, listen dog, like I said, you seen situations where a dude get paid. This wasn't that one, this wasn't that one though. It ain't all the way here. He wasn't, no, he wasn't getting paid yet.

That punch got him paid. So the punch got him paid. Yeah, the punch got him paid like, yo, I'm a Sioux. Here's the money. Right, that was one of those. But, I mean. So, all right, so my timing was off. So I got it.

This is, because you got to remember, everyone gets paid in the summer. And you have to think about it like this. When you're talking about NBA, there's no you're starting, and then the person you took don't play no more. You know what I mean? That's not the case in NBA. There was never going to be where

he took Steph, let's say he took Steph's spot, and then Steph is on the bench, and he's playing 48 minutes. That's not going to happen. That ain't going to happen. Steph will come to 15 minutes. You know, that ain't going to happen. So Steph is going to be in the rotation as a six-man, working to get his position back.

And then usually the top three players on the team, it's really hard to take their spot. This is not you come off the bench, I'm having a bad night, you get 30, and then the next the next game you starting you know that's why the Kaczynski thing and the Clay thing was so appalling to us yeah yeah like well right yeah you know you did hold on just for him like guard the future we want you taking 10 games a game I know but no no no last year right come off the bench you'd be like for for who him yeah right that's yeah, yeah. Right, that's real.

Like, I didn't, I'm not, shouldn't lose my, I've been doing this too long. And then, and then he gets it back, right? It kind of, it is. Yeah, because you're making it, just playing with people's. But damage is probably done at that point. Absolutely. Mentally. Mentally, like, I need a.

Checked out. Fresh start. Checked out. Changed your heart. Okay. Clay was checked out when that shit happened. Yeah, yeah. Guaranteed. Checked out. Fresh start. Checked out. Okay. Clay was checked out when that shit happened. Yep. Guaranteed.

Checked out. And then for you guys, obviously making the transition from young players to vets, who was the first person that you took under your wing when you were actually a vet? When I was a real vet, I would say most of it was like Orlando, Jameer. We used to have great conversations talking about the game. And then when I was in Memphis and I had the young boys, Pargo and Josh Shelby, right, teaching them how to, you know, train before practice, get ready for a game and taking a cab over. You know, it's just they were dealing with elements that had nothing

to do with their talent. It was, Hollins was just a veteran coach, right? He didn't, he didn't want to develop young guys and he didn't want to play young guys. There's just coaches like that, right? So, you know, they was never going to get the benefit of the doubt. So, you know, that's why their careers, it had nothing to do with their talent. You can see these two talented fucking players, they got drafted to the wrong team. Those two needed to be drafted to a young, developing team so they had

the benefit of learning and making mistakes because those were the type of players they were. They were high-level type of guards, both of them. But they didn't get that leeway. You go in there and he got the, you know what I mean? Think about Pargo.

You know how he play. This nigga can't guard me. Young team, go to work. Veteran team, hey, hey, hey. Get the ball down there. And he'll be like, oh, you little fool. Who are you looking at? I was about to hit you with the bat.

Now he don't look like himself. Now he's out there just wasting minutes. As I already give it to the vet. At least I know Gil ain't going to try nothing dumb because he can't move. You know what I mean? But he can't move like that. He ain't going to be trying that. He going to play safe.

And that's what I need for my backup. I need my backup to be safe. I don't need my backup trying to be john morant right now even though you got those abilities i don't need that right now right you know um my colleague will be on the bench two five seven minutes i don't need you sitting there thinking you need to try to show me that you're great in seven minutes manage the clock and you know that's why they brought me in. And I'm like, man, just keep working, do your thing.

And, you know, that's why their careers was cut short because, you know, it was just the veteran coaching. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Back to actual basketball. Jamal Murray and the Nuggets agreed on a four-year, $208 million extension that will keep him with the team through 2029. Big news this week.

So Murray averaged 21.7 assists, four rebounds in 59 regular season games this past season, and 21.6 assists, four rebounds in 12 playoff games. While dealing with the calf strain he suffered in Game 5 of the Nuggets' opening round win against the Lakers. So good move for the Nuggets to lock Jamal Murray up. Yeah. Yeah. Easy? Hell yeah. I mean, there's nothing-

Best player on the team? Yeah, one of your best closers. Your best closer, not one of them. Your best closer? Your best closer, so when he's healthy, I mean, yeah, great move. And do you think- He earned it too. So obviously, Murray had the. When he's healthy, I mean, yeah, great move. He learned it, too.

So, obviously, Murray had the calf strain in the playoffs, went and played with Canada in the Olympics, struggled, only averaged six points per game, 41% on two-point shots, 14% on three-point shots. Do you think that'll have any impact on this season coming forward, or will it motivate him to show he's one of the best guards in the league game best guards in the game is just different overseas He shouldn't have played if he wasn't healthy. That's who I don't even think it was just it was just a style It was just a style. You know your style you've been perfecting your pick and roll

You know mannerisms your your game is Nuggets by your your game is not this right so It was it was a great pay, you know, because he is that guy that when you think about his career, you're going to be like, man, he made no All-Star games? Man, he was no NBA player? That's crazy, right? A guy that has so much and he does so much for the team, and he don't get the accolades and awards. So this is cheap

for what they get right you you have guaranteed closer right a dude who is dame leonard at the end of the game he is that guy you want the ball you know he is kevin you know kevin to rent at the end he hits big shots so for him not to be-NBA player or all-star and you get him for this price because he could have easily been signing 305s to 325s. Right?

Easily. And no one was going to say, oh, that's too much for him. Yeah. Right? Right? So 208? Hey, y'all stole one.

You think the injury has something? The injuries? No, I just think that his team is so good and he doesn't, he's like Jimmy Butler in regular season, right? His demand don't, you don't demand all-star play from him in regular season because how the team is, his greatness comes in the playoffs. Right?

You know, he is truly an all-NBA player, all-star when playoff games start. So, you know, him getting hurt is the reason they fail. But he's cheap for them. I know there wasn't really no negotiation. Like, yeah, I need the max. Cool. Because I'm paying, you know what I mean? I'm paying the't really no negotiation. Like, yeah, I need the max. Cool. Because I'm paying, you know what I mean? I'm paying the super max player max. Yeah.

So Murray entered his eighth season, missed one of those years, obviously, with the injury. But do you expect him to take a leap in this season to now get to that all-star level, all-NBA level, where he's bought in to what the Nuggets want him to do? It's just tough, man, the position that he plays. Mm-hmm. Right? They play through Nikola.

You know when Nikola's gonna average. What would he have to take? He averaged 21 last year. That 21 would have to be 26, right? So five more points on his regular season average. And that still might not get it. I'm saying that's because it's still the position that he plays is tough. Right?

That guard position in the West is that. Depends on where they're at. Even if they top three, you're talking about just you got Shea, Luka. That's it right there. Yeah, but what if they won? You know what I'm saying? So you got Shea, Luka as as the guards as starting and backing up Right at the one at the one in the one and then from there you got one more guard

Maybe did you got jive you guys so now you got Josh Steph? Fox Shit book the fuck around book will be everyone. Booker B is just too much. But what if they won out the West? But then he has to, one, he's going to have to get voted in. That is the thing. Like, he's going to be voted in by the coaching staff. Right?

And that's only the record. If Denver is one at the break and he's averaging 23. 23, yeah. If he's averaging 23 at the break and Denver is one, yes. He's got to be all-star. He's got to make sure Steph Curry ain't balling his team as fifth. Yeah.

Steph ain't going to be at no 23-something. He's going to be at 30-something. And then if he's voted in, so who's getting voted in? Him and Luka? Then you still got... Right, him him and Luca. You still got Anthony Edwards So and it so that means Anthony ever is coming off the bench because it's not voting right then you have John Moran Darren Fox and then now he's fighting with De'Aaron Fox De'Aaron Fox average about 26 27

Kyrie right, so that it's... So, he has to be top three and he's playing about... He's averaging about 25, 26 because the other guards, that's a bad night for them. Yeah, no. I just think it helps. I just think it helps if they're number one at the break. When he was

one the first time, he didn't win. He didn't get in. Yeah, but if they're one and he's hitting shots and he's, like, hitting big... Well, he's going to have to be putting people in the mix the first half of the season. It has to be the... It's not even about him averaging. It's the look of it. Yeah, that's what it's about. The look.

He can hit four game winners like he's been doing, but those four game winners got to be like coming from half, made somebody fall, boom, hit it with a 50. It has to look like he's just like, oh, shit. And he's still averaging 23. The bubble.

The bubble. The bubble, yeah. The bubble. Yeah, but that bubble was different, though. Listen, if he can get into that bubble mode. That bubble, Jamal Murray, was a problem. So, speaking of Jamal Murray cooking, so against the Lakers in the first round,

dominant two-game winners for his career against the Lakers in the postseason, averaging 27-game winners. For his career against the Lakers in the postseason, he averaged a 27-7 assist and five rebounds. Yeah, I probably don't want to see them no more. But... I probably want to leave the Nuggets alone. Oh, I mean, yeah. I'm already cooking.

But why is he so good against a team like the Lakers? Guard play. Lack thereof. LeBron can't guard everybody, and the Davids can't guard everybody. Yeah, that's fair. So it's guard play. He out there, like, you know you see them match up certain guards,

you're like, man, they ain't got nobody over there. Nobody over there today. You know that too, B. You see some guy, you're like, man, they ain't got nobody over there that can guard me. So you look, they see that playoff matchup, you're like, oh, this is food. And for you both, how excited did you used to get when you used to see a squad coming up on the schedule that you knew that their guards couldn't do nothing with you?

Or they had guards and all of them were slow. I know both of y'all was like, shit. Yeah, but that's what I said. There was only... It's not this time. He's coming in a different time. My time, any guard that was very high level, they weren't scoring guards. Right?

So, J. Kidd, right? Like, J. Kidd is, you know, he's here. But when it comes to saying, all right, I need to play D, J. Kidd is not trying to give you 20. Right? D, J. Kidd is not trying to give you 20, right? If J. Kidd is hitting shots, he'll give you 20. But for the most part, he wasn't trying to give you 20 points a game, even if he had a mismatch problem. So most of the time, I'm a little, compared to him, because he's stronger, he's going to go on the post to create the double, to boom, boom, swing it, dunk on that.

That was his, like, he was rarely going to go. Like, same thing with Andre Miller. Andre Miller gets you in the mix down there, but he wasn't going to try to give you 30, 40, 50, right? So, for the most part, I was coming at everybody knowing that there was really not going to be a guy who was going to try to give me the buckets back. But just because they're not giving you buckets,

that don't mean they're not dominating the game. Yeah, but they're you rebounding and throwing the ball to somebody else. Your triple-double, 10, 12, and 12 ain't got anything to do with me. Yeah, that adds up for 30 points. Cool. Right. But I'm not guarding your passes

to, like, you sitting there throwing it and zipping it by and I'm playing defense. That's still on you, though. No, it's not. It's on the guy that got backdoor. So how are we able to create that? Yeah, see, Jake, you're the bad example, because... Like, think about it. Because he going to dominate that motherfucking game.

That's what I'm saying. Because he going to rebound that motherfucking push, because he going to create the tempo. But remember, I don't... It's just like Jokic. The guy who's guarding Jokic don't see the assist part of it. I don't see that 20 points in assists. So if I'm guarding you and you're going to pick a roll,

I fought over it and got over it, right, and then Kenya's posting up and you hedge and he spent on it through the lob, that ain't on me. That's on the big who's guarding him. Like, whoever, like, you know what I mean? So I can't see these points. You could have zero points and got 20 assists, and to me, I stopped the fuck out you.

You didn't score. No, you didn't. Yeah, I did. No, you didn't. 20 assists is fucking, that's 40 fucking points. That's a lot of, that's dominating the game. But if you're 0-5 against, I can only contain what I'm. But we, let me ask you this.

How many times you was playing during the game and somebody threw a pass, you were like, oh, that was an assist. Man. Why you guarding? Never. You ain't never thought that? But when you're going, you can test that shot,

he missed, you remember, oh, he just missed three in a row. Yeah, okay, I mean... So you don't count, but you're not counting the assists. I don't know. After the game, you might look at the stat sheet. Right. And be like, oh, damn, he was killing it. 0.26 with the win?

No, but that's looking at the stat sheet, right? That's looking at the stat sheet after the game. Okay. But during the game, you thinking you locking him down because he's missing. He going and you pop, pop. He go, you contest. He miss. He do that seven times. You look at it like,

shit, I just stopped him seven times in a row. But the other 13 possessions out of the 20, he got an assist. You're not thinking about that. What are you thinking? 12, 15, and 10 is crazy. But you're not looking at it after the game.

You didn't know you was going to get an assist. I'm guarding you. You're trying to bring me down one-on-one again and then someone came off someone came off a curl you pass it that do hit a jumper I don't see that yeah cuz you win he I said on this you went to your point now I said on that set on that boom boom boom and you had to drop it off cuz I didn't set on everything you're getting assists right I locked you down but you got the system because I didn't settle on everything. You get an assist, right? I locked you down. But you got an assist because I played good defense.

Yeah, but you found open man. True, but in my mind, I locked you down. Yeah. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Unless you get the rebound and you pushing that motherfucker and you creating the tempo of the game,

like Jake Keen would do, the kid get that motherfucker pushing that bitch down. So now he's creating the pace of the game, so he's definitely dominating and demanding without shooting that bitch. Right. He might shoot it two out of 12 possessions, but he's still dominating the game. So I see what you're saying.

Guys like him, Rondo, I don't think guys are killing these guys when they want because you still average Eight and seventeen and twelve I'm out here, but I'm out here but if I'm in my position if we're talking about our matchup single-handedly and I gave you 35 and you gave me eight points To me you got dominated. No, no. But if he had eight points and 15 assists. And 12 rebounds, that's not dominating. Your rebound is your effort.

What I'm saying is you're just – But now you're just collecting a bunch of stats to make it look like you played very well. No, no, no. No, no, for him. No, for him. Don't do that. Him going to get a defense –

I've been with you. No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is him getting a defensive rebound, him getting a defensive rebound does not. But don't say he's just collecting stats. No, what I'm saying is for him, when he's adding all of this in, it's like my matchup with you. I said the assist.

No, what I'm saying is my matchup with you, you can't say because you got a defensive rebound, somehow you impact. I mean, defense, offensive rebounds. So I said, yeah. Like offensive rebounds, now you're impacting my game. So if you had 35, right, and I had eight points in 15 to 17 assists, I offset your 35.

Yes, because them 17 assists, that add up for your 35. No, no, no. That's what he said. No, as guards play, when you add it up, you offset. I offset your 35. As a matchup, I bust your ass. But not in my mind, no. No, no, in your mind, no.

But I bust his ass. Not to the scouts. No, no, no. Not to the scouts. Not to the scouts. If you're looking at it, you're like. But it offsets. Well, shit, he had it.

When the game starts, we already know. You're doubling me. We're not doubling you. No, we're going to give you the 35. Because, no, no, let him score 35. We're doubling you because you. No, you're doubling me because you cannot guard me. No, we're not doubling you. No, we're going to give you the 35 because no, let him score 35. We're doubling you because you, no, you're doubling me because you cannot guard me. No, we're not doubling you because

yours is coming here so we're like, oh yo, he's, you know, watch the back doors and all that stuff. It becomes everybody else's responsibility. Because now I have to watch you don't back door because he's looking for this or watch out for the curl Stay in front so King and don't spin that that becomes the that becomes that thing those guards aren't aren't aren't doubling you if Rondo

You're doubling me because I am hurting you one-on-one if Rondo and Jake hit us going. They're not doubling you They're going to guard you up straight up and you're gonna have your 40, but we're gonna come down We're gonna have our 10 17 and 12, you're 17 you're 17 assists now you are dependent on them scoring yeah right and they do right my teammates are like if you got three if you got three back spins off of kenyan and we's like yo don't let kenyan catch the ball no assists for you yeah but this but this particular situation that we speak of right we're talking about one particular game right one particular matchup one particular game that you had 35, another guy had, well, like I said, eight points, 17 assists, damn the rebounds. I ain't even talking about the

rebounds. It's just the assists for me. It's the points and assists cumulatively of, to offset your 35 that you had. We can look at the stat sheet at the end of the game. You can have 35 points. If I go out and get eight points and 17 assists and we win, you're satisfied with it. My plus is definitely better than yours. No, you can, like, think about what you're saying. Like, you have to go to the stat sheet to make it make sense. Right?

You can be like, okay, so Brandon didn't lose his matchup tonight. That's how that looks. But just the game itself, you was getting dog-walked. You're getting dog-walked individually because you're not containing your guy. I'm stopping you. I am. I can't control it.

The game plan is you're going to get 35. I don't know. But it ain't just... How many assists... So just being creative, right? This point guard's getting assists, right? So just so Rondo and J.K. right? Rondo as of late.

How many plays are they actually running for him to just set out that motherfucking old school way, run his triple and for you to, he being creative, right? Off the bounce. Run, yeah, run. Yeah, so they being creative off the bounce and making plays and not just relying on sets. Right, they going to get a few off of just sets, but for the most of it, it's them creating, right? Them getting the rebound, pushing it, making plays.

Oh, shit, he open. Here, like shit like that. Mm-hmm, but if you just running sets every time down and a dude getting 15 assists No, he got his ass busted. Yeah, like John Stockton a Lot of nights if he was guarding Tim Hardaway, he might have his assist but it looked because they running fucking sets and he just Then absolutely fucking sets and he just... If it's that, then absolutely. I don't care. They're coming. There's only a few.

How many assists Calderon have? You got your ass busted every night. Because you're not doing anything. You're not getting into the defense, coming in, and then you suck the defense in and then I threw it off. Now, I'm in trouble because I can't contain you yeah you're not scoring but you're sitting here doing this that those are the Rondo's but somebody like let's say

so yeah Lonzo ball yeah Tennessee you know his tennis this is coming from catch it here pass it here he shot a three He shot a three. Okay? Shot a three. Throw it in. The guy spent and scored. So his assist ain't created. But then you take his brother on the same hand. Now you take, yeah, LaMelo. You take his brother, he going to be on the break.

Magic, you know what I'm saying? But what I'm saying, that 35, you might think you busted his ass. That 35 with a loss is not busting his ass. I agree with both of y'all. It does. No, it doesn't. I'm sorry. You're 6, 7, and 12, and you win.

That Instagram shit is cool. Your team is better, but if I have 35 on your dog, and that's what I do you supposed to stop me mm-hmm you maybe the game but maybe the game plan 25 and you get your tour that's just you give me everybody that's yeah that's right so the game plan is to let you score there's no game plan to let anybody score yes it is no no so what is the saying is well we know he's gonna though. Shoot him out of it. Shoot him out of it. So what is the saying? Well, we know he's going to get his. Shoot him out of it.

He's going to get his. Let's limit everybody else. But there's no game plan for Kobe. We're going to let Kobe get 61 and three quarters. I'm sorry. That's not a game plan. I mean, it's just him. I mean.

That's not a game plan, dog. There's no game plan right now to let Luka do what Luka's doing. That's not a game plan. So, unfortunately, now these guards is giving you the points and the assists and the rebounds. Now, but we're talking about back then.

Like Bibby shooting jumpers and then somebody's coming off a pin down and he's making a quick pass to that. I'm sorry, that's not. It all depends on how you get there. There was only a few guards back then. Steve Nash? Same way. But Steve Nash was impactful because he's coming.

So when he comes off that pick and roll and his 15 assists is 15 assists. So he feared Steve Francis. Yeah. Like a mother like Steve Francis, when he coming up, they're like, oh, shit. He's going to try to score. It ain't embarrassing. Right?

He want to make you touch earth. The fact that you could dominate a game without scoring just says a lot, too. Yeah. But it all depends. Like, that's way more dangerous. The fact that you come down here, get to 8 and 17 and 12, and you up 20, and you got plus 15. How you doing it?

I mean, shit. Like, Steve Nash, he's in. Absolutely, but I hear what he's saying. They have 100 plays. 93 is him in the pick and roll. Right? So that means I'm trying to guard his pick and roll. 93 possessions.

So if I fight over it wrong, shot. If I fight over it good and he throw that bounce pass, that's a dunk. He sit there and I keep him under control and he's zipped it through because for him to get these type of assists, the obvious fucking thing. He don't get assists, he don't score, right? Yeah. So that's what with him because he's trying to score. People can think he won't pass it before.

Yeah, he's trying to score. Steve Nash trying to score. So my job is to keep, like, with Steve Nash, the point was keep him in front so he don't have no open passing lanes. So that means if he's getting these open passing lanes, I'm not doing my job keeping him in front. So there's no he's sitting at the top, and then there's a pin down for like a Ray Allen, and he's sitting there and just do one of these,

and he gets the shot like, no, Steve Nash. Everybody else is sitting, and Steve Nash is doing everything, and like, ah, like that's on me. Right? So like him, Steve Francis, you're like, ah. Even Steve Francis' 16 points was a hit. Like he made it look like he had 30 that night.

His 16 points is better. His 16 points is better than the nigga that's coming in there with 10 and 17 and 12 and throwing that shit off the glass to him. That looks entertaining. And coming down. You see that? He threw shit off the glass that no no that that that looks entertaining and coming down Yeah, you say hey he do it on glass to him. Oh, see French thought off the glass on you. Yeah So it's 16 points all all eight of those possessions was on sports and for me my Get back over here. No that wasn't good

That one play about that one you feel that what I'm saying is you feel it more? Like there's some there's some better was consistent to him. I saw people in do it. So you know And there's this one if they keep you a kid come on man every night consistent off Like you look is silly you've played in games where you had to go to the stats sheet. You had it in your mind, oh, I got killed today. Nigga had like 30. Steve Francis was gone for sure. Oh, he only had six? And nigga, somebody be like, yeah,

those six was embarrassing. Da-da-da, da-da-da. Because he made it look powerful. Yeah. So it all depends on how the game is being played. And we so horrible in the locker room. Man, did you mean to fall that way? Yeah.

Yo. Did you mean to fall that way? Hey, did you mean to touch earth like that? Yeah. Because I know, listen, I know for a fact, silly as I, they team was silly. I know our team had some idiots on it. There was no way Antonio Daniels could have been on our team

and Chuck could have did that Oh, no, mr. Macarena Mr. Macarena, oh, no, all you see the back room. Somebody came with a oldie Oh, yeah, that was that he would he would have never lived off listen, no, he never let that man dog because I Have to be it all the bit on the bench when he did it. I would have lost it. On his team.

Mr. Macarena. Yeah. Made that man out to dance, dog. So let's get back just to the Nuggets real quick. So Jamal Murray obviously signed that four-year extension. It means the Nuggets have locked up their big three of Jokic, Murray, and Michael Porter Jr. through at least 2027.

Aaron Gordon is under contract this season, has a player option next summer. So Nuggets lost KCP to the Magic of Free Agency, traded Reggie Jackson to the Hornets, but they did add Russell Westbrook and Darius Sarek to help strengthen their bench. But there are reports that Nuggets head coach Mike Malone in the front office aren't seeing eye to eye right now.

So are the Nuggets doing enough to help Jokic and the rest of the squad extend their championship window? Wait, Reggie Jackson went where? He got traded to the Hornets and then he got bought out. He's in Philly. He's in Philly now. Now he's in Philly.

If I'm coach, I am concerned a little bit because as the champs of two years ago, we didn't get better last year, right? And then we lost some pieces. We lost some key pieces that helped us. Yeah, we broke in some pieces, but I don't think he thinks these pieces were valuable enough. The name is not valuable enough. I mean, the name is valuable,

but the play style, right? So when we bring in Westbrook, like, who is he passing to? Where's my shooters at, right? And a team like that needs shooters. You're relying on for Jokic to be Jokic. You don't need people sitting in the lane saying, all right, shoot the ball over there. So I'm concerned. I don't think they got enough this summer, all right, shoot the ball over there. So I'm concerned.

I don't think they got enough this summer, you know, especially after they lost last year. Yeah. But finish tied with the Thunder. No, no. Top spot in the West. I ended up with the tiebreaker shift in the second. But game seven.

Philly got better. Yeah. I mean, you got teams out there that got better. So they probably said, oh, yeah, we still top three in the West, but are we better than some of those teams in the East at this moment in time? Because if they did play Philly in the finals, we know Embiid, we know Jokic is going to have a triple-double, but we also know Embiid probably will average about 40. Right? We know Jokic is going to have a triple-double, but we also know Embiid probably will average about 40.

We know that. And Denver is not going to win that series with Embiid averaging 40. And now you have Paul George and Maxie and the whole rest of that team because Jamal, you're going to get off. Youngfellow will too. This is not a D-low situation where you're gonna get off young fella will too right this is not a d low situation where you're gonna have 20 something dealer gonna be 12 15 maybe 18 maybe you're not gonna have an inconsistent guard on the other side that guard on the other side is gonna give you all a 25 to 27 right he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna put the pressure back on you so now you have i

can say an equal matchup. The only thing Murray has to his advantage is he's a gamer at the end. So if it gets to the last two, three minutes, he's going to have the advantage over Maxie, the experience. But for the most part, that's going to be an even matchup. Now you have Embiid and Jokic is going to be canceling each other out depending on, right, you're going to have 50 on the side combined. You're going to have 60 Jokic is going to be canceling each other out depending on... Right.

You're going to have 50 on the side combined. You're going to have 60 from what he's going to do. Now you got Paul George as... Porter Jr. Shit, Porter Jr., yeah. That's a good matchup. No, now you got the whole rest of Philly. Now you got the whole Philly second unit.

That's crazy. They're the same player right now. It's a good matchup. Now you got Philly's whole second unit. That's crazy. They're the same player right now. It's a good matchup Now you got the Phillies whole second unit which second where Phillies bench players don't do that cuz Reggie Jackson over there, too Don't do that and Eric Gordon don't do that. Yeah, Caleb Martin don't do that Kyle. I don't do that. Yeah, you got the SC Andre Drummond so and the most important piece. Yeah So if you're a part of June, yeah, so if you're a coach over there, you're really concerned. Like, ah, we didn't get enough pieces.

We didn't get enough pieces. Yeah, they didn't get better. Game away from the Western Conference Finals. I know, I understand. The Russ got it, but they didn't get better. Yeah, okay. For what they need. Like you said, they need shooters.

They need shooters. They need the younger, athleticism, big, like. They have Brown. Christian Brown, Peyton Watson, I think. They got a little bit older. I think Christian will be a great asset coming into this year, going to get some more playing time. Watson, right now he's been playing that defensive type of role,

and, you know, he's more of an offensive player. See what they become. So, yeah, we got to. Also got Strother out of Gonzaga. That may help alleviate that, but I understand the point you guys are making. The direction this thing is heading, but

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I live no I didn't get one nothing nothing nice, I didn't get one, nothing. Nothing. No, it's Gil. I mean, I'm saying I... Purdy. No. He was at 235. He was at 231 early. That ain't 235.5. And he didn't get six more yards.

How? What happened? And then Aaron Rodgers, obviously. Christian McCaffey, he didn't even play. He got one yard. I think they reimbursed me on that one. You know, Debo fucked me. And then Bryce Hall. Yeah, so. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, my ticket was messed up yesterday because it was just it was bad mojo on the ticket because Christian Caffrey didn't play. Yeah. I was feeling yucky when I got the card. He wasn't playing. I'm like, I messed my whole mojo up with the ticket. Because that's how we were preparing. The CMC was going to be in the mix. But you have to adjust. Yeah.

It's going to be a good NFL season with these pick'ems, I'm going to tell you right now. We're going to... Got off to a great start week one for me. I went back to the WNBA. Yeah, I see. You said that like it's a bad thing.

Consistent. No, no, no. Yeah, they consistent. They reliable. For garbage 15, 15. Going to get you 15. So we talked about the Nuggets and Westbrook, but Russell Westbrook, easily one of the most disrespected players in this era,

seems to always be catching strays. So during a recent episode of ESPN's Get Up, football analyst Ryan Clark used Westbrook to make a comparison on the difference between Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. Lamar Jackson right now is like Russell Westbrook, right? We watch Russell Westbrook throughout the regular season and even in the playoffs have these great statistical games, have this huge impact on what teams are doing.

But you remember when he and Dame Lillard went head-to-head and it got emotional. He couldn't make a shot, right? Everything he was trying to aim, every time he was open, it was hitting the back of the iron. It wouldn't go in. And what did Dane Lillard do? At the end of the game, Dane Lillard sidestepped, shot the three,

and he hit us with the – right? That's the difference right now between Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. So after ESPN NFL posted the clip on their IG, Westbrook's wife Nina said enough was enough and offered this response. She said, my goodness, just as a basketball fan, we couldn't even wait for the NBA season to start up before the Russell slander begins. This doesn't make any, one, this doesn't make any sense. Two, the only comparison to be made between Russell and Lamar are that they're both unicorns and amazing at what they do. Three, I've never met Ryan and I'm sure he's a nice guy,

but please stop. Four, and finally, before you start hating on Russell, at least let the basketball season start. Let him miss a layup or something first. I'm still enjoying the peace and the silence. So Russ shared his wife's response on his IG story. Clark later responded to Nina saying, I meant absolutely no disrespect.

I'd go down in fighting for Russ. He's one of the best ones to me. So Westbrook, first ballot Hall of Famer, a reputation for being a hard worker, great teammate from all the guys we've talked to that have played with him. I'll speak extremely highly of him. So why does Westbrook to get so much slander? It's weird. It's real weird because... they were... I don't know if the media was trying to discredit... his numbers. It was like they were trying to discredit his triple-double.

Yeah. Because it was too easy for him, right? And he's changing history. And, you know, when motherfuckers have heroes, it's hard for them to let go sometimes. And I think while trying to say, hey, these stats ain't really real, right? You became disrespectful to the man who was doing it absolutely right oh he's stat he's stat patent and start doing all that dumb shit when if it was that

easy why isn't everyone trying it when when magic johnson was trying to catch john stockton in assists you don't think he was going out there trying to forcefully make assists making passes that he shouldn't be trying to forcefully make assists, making passes that he shouldn't be trying to make or turning down shots to get an assist. When people are trying to do this, when John Stockton was overpassing, no one said those were patent stats. Patent stats when a guy's trying to get the block record and he's giving up offensive rebounds, he's trying to sit here and get these blocks no one's count knows dennis robbins going out of his way to miss he don't give a fuck about his shooting percentage

because he don't score but he's sitting there missing he's laying up to get these offensive rebounds no one used it then but now you're talking about someone getting a whole bunch of defensive rebounds that's you messed up you made... You made what he did seem like it was easy. And that became the main issue when everybody was like, oh, that's just patent stats. Fuck that. And then it just became this disrespectful thing on someone who was out there working his ass off.

Yeah. I mean, it seems like Westbrook single-handedly made people devalue the importance of a triple-double. Triple-double used to hold this high regard. He does it for a couple of seasons, and now it's, ah, well, maybe it's not that big of a deal. It hasn't happened since. You think because he's not really media-friendly, so they try to act like what he does ain't like that?

No, that's what it is. It's the same thing where these same people are voting, same people are like, they got your legacy in their hands so if you don't kiss their asses, they sit there and fuck with

your legacy and that's the big problem with sports. That, you know, if I don't kiss this person's ass now he's gonna write something negative towards me and then he's gonna spin it in a way because he has he has the platform to do it and he has the voting right to do it it's that shit it's confronting the fans it's it's easy to pin a picture it's easy it seemed like that time with the Lakers really would kind of set it over

the top and as you guys know Lakers really would kind of set it over the top. As you guys know, Lakers Nation, they're gonna come at anybody. It don't really matter. Cuz people pick the side, man, with him and the Kevin Durant thing. People pick sides. Mm. But to, yeah, Ryan Clark, that man sitting home minding his business, dog. Let's talk about Ryan Clark's suit, first and foremost.

The color of that son of a bitch. Man, he look like a pastor that's a scammer. Yeah, I... Yeah. Yo. Look like he just be asking people on the late-night show. Look at that thing from a recent... Can we just screen grab him? Isn't he... He's... Which one of them fraternities is he in?

He's in one of them fraternities. Let me see. It might be the Alpha. I think he's an Alpha. Look like a scammer. It might be an Alpha, so that could explain the gold nature of that, but...

But yeah, Russ mind his business, man. That man ain't did nothing but work hard and work his ass off. He's a dope, yeah. But yeah, shout out to his wife, man, for sticking up for him. She tired of it. I get it. I'm tired of it.

She said, can we wait till we at least make a... Yeah. No, that's what it is. That makes it funny. He's a capper, I believe. He's a capper? Yeah. Okay.

Look at that suit, bro. Look at this. Scammer. Wear what you dig. He look like he take everybody money from church. Yeah. OK. Look at that suit, bro. Look at this. Scammer. Wear what you dig. He look like he take everybody money from church. He on TV a lot. He got to diversify his fits.

I understand. And he normally dresses nice. No, Ryan Clark normally puts it on, but he missed with that one. It happens. Yeah, it does. So OK, so is this after the loss? Now, OK, it does. So, okay, so is this after the loss? Now, okay, like I...

This is Friday. This is Friday after the... So was this Lamar Jackson's fault for the dude chose stepping on, you know, he's stepping on the toe that was behind the game? No, it was a couple bad throws before that. A couple bad plays. Two bad throws before that. Yeah, two bad throws before that.

Right before that. But he made the throw for game, the dude told you it was on the line. But he made the throw for game. The dude told you it was on the line. But it was throws throughout. The line couldn't block nobody. It was a lot going on. Who's team is better? Last year's team, the Ravens was.

And Kansas City went into Baltimore in the AFC Championship game and won. And Lamar didn't play very well? He didn't play well. Right. Because he should have ran more than he did. He should have played like he did. If he would have played like he did Thursday in the AFC Championship game, they would have had a better chance.

See, you know, sometimes this is what happens with very, very high-level players. They overthink, right? Like, he probably does this. When he plays against... Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, he tries to conform to what Patrick Mahomes does, right? Oh, I'm going to out-pass him, right?

I'm going to show everybody I can pass the ball, too. Now you're playing his style. You're not playing your style. That happens a lot when you're playing against a... Like I'm playing against Jason Kidd. I want to pretend I'm Jason Kidd now. Motherfucker, I can do this too. Shit, now I got nine turned over 15

trying to fuck around and play his game. And sometimes as competitors, we fall into that trap where we try to match the other player's style knowing that we're going to be critiqued for it. When your dominance, the reason you are great is because of what you do, right? He's doing what he's doing.

You got to do what you do. He's not pretending that he's you and he's going to try to run for them 100 yards. And that happens a lot. And it seems like that's what happens with Lamar sometimes when he plays against these pure quarterbacks I don't know. He feels he has to try to conform to what they're doing to try to get the respect by. There's only one standard he's been held to and that's Patrick Mahomes. Since they came in, they both got two MVPs. So he's been held

to that standard and like in that comparison. One's got rings though. One's got three rings. The other one exists. So it's... If you take away... If you take away...

If we do what we do, take away the rings and who is the... Like just okay, regular season. Who's the better player in the regular season? Toss up? Okay, who's the, like, just, okay, regular season. Who's the better player in the regular season? Toss-up?

Okay, who's the best player? Without the championship game, who's the best player in the playoffs? Patrick Mahomes. Okay. Patrick Mahomes. So, playoff, Patrick Mahomes is better. Yeah. And then it's toss-up and?

Regular season. Regular season is a toss-up? Okay. Yeah, because Lamar, I'm saying, they got two regular season MVPs apiece. Can you, like you said, Lamar said that his legs felt way better in that Thursday night game than they did in the playoffs, and if he was able to run like that, echoed your statement to your point,

they wouldn't even need to throw the ball. It just looked bad in the AFC championship game. People were like, and I was under the impression, okay, this is Baltimore year to get to the Super Bowl right this is them tomorrow's chance to go get him one At home because you've always had to go on the road to win a playoff game, which is tough

Now you got them boys come to your house He was like that you miss your opportunity, yeah, because them boys got better Like Kansas City got better. Yeah, my people don't they got better. Like, Kansas City got better. Yeah. Like, people don't, they got better. So, and this dude, when it's time, when the game is on the line, he don't make mistakes. Like, Patrick Mahomes, when that shit is, when he'll get down them last five minutes, four minutes of the game, he not making mistakes.

Okay. So, he didn't came back and tie the playoff game with 13 seconds to go on the clock, some shit like that. So, had a couple timeouts, threw a couple outs, was able to kick a field goal with, like, so he's... Yeah. He's pristine. He like that, though. He is like that.

You ain't never watch the game? Hmm? I said you ain't never watch them, like... Yo, this motherfucker... I'm a Rams fan. No, I'm saying... He's a Rams fan. No, but he's nice.

Yo, in the preseason game, one of the, like, the preseason game that he played in this year, nigga threw a behind. They ran a play This man threw a behind-the-back pass dog in the game. Mm-hmm. They ran a play Travis killed a rumor He threw a behind-the-back pass man and completed it. Mm-hmm trying shit. Yo So don't ball player So he must play basketball. Yeah, he's a hooper who hooper. He hooped too. They told him to stop.

And he nice in golf too. Most quarterbacks. Like most quarterbacks are. Most quarterbacks and shooters. Most quarterbacks and shooters are nice at golf. Because it's about accuracy. It's about perception and accuracy. That's all.

Yeah, they got to be able to knock your hat off your head with that football without hitting you in the face with it. Right? A lot of quarterbacks. I know, like, I think Russell wants to win so bad sometimes the elements of the situation just probably get the best of him. You know, when you're talking about, like, being a gamer, right, being the Dame, you know being you know Fox being You know Brunson

You have to learn how to slow the game Down when you're moving fast and he hasn't perfected that so sometimes when he's trying to Get it done. It looks like he's doing too much You know, that bad shot at the wrong... Because he's still in fast mode. He doesn't know how to slow the engine down to go ahead, turn here. That's what ends up happening with him. It's not like it's

the 43-minute game and then there's the I'm in traffic. He hasn't perfected that traffic play yet. That's what makes him look bad at certain times because he's doing things in the moments where It doesn't need to be done like oh you shouldn't took that shot there You shouldn't tried to throw that lob there right we be at home over there. No Russ don't

Write this that would be like a we fans of me wanted to see to his point, we're like, he wants to win so bad. From timing. It's game, score, timing, situation. All of that matters. For him, winning is combining all that shit I just named. For him, it's all one ball and it's winning It was like the rubber band ball that you see right all that shit combined and one but you bounce that motherfucker Right, that's him. But you unravel that bitch. We got this we got there we got so that's for him

He ain't took the time to unravel it busy. Just all yeah, it's still bouncing Yes, and it is hard as like if a, if you're a teammate or you're a coach, it's hard to tell him to, like, yo, just take it easy because he does so many... Like, you remember when he got the three offensive rebounds to get the... That right there is part of this ball where greatness does happen into it because his engines move as or like i gotta get the rebound you miss boom yeah i gotta go get it again boom like a normal a normal mind wouldn't have done that you know right that's a dennis rodman mind that's a there's only certain

people who can think that fast and go and sometimes you got to slow it down too to hit these key shots and make this right play and that's all that's the only thing that, and I think that's where everybody's judging them. So that's where these moments and somebody like Ryan Clark makes the statement is because you're putting so much of your vision of Russell Westbrook on these little plays here and there. So if we ask somebody who don't like Westbrook or who has this negative thing Russell Westbrook on these little plays here and there. So if we ask somebody who don't like Westbrook or who has this negative thing on Westbrook and say, all right, why you don't like him? They'll have four or five plays that stick out in their mind of his whole career.

Like, wait a minute. But it's a lot of players, though. There's a lot of players. So you could have named somebody else that's been in the clutch like that. But when you think about clutch players and you say, oh, who's the most clutch? Right? They'll name you somebody and be like, all right, name me the clutch moment. There's only going to be three.

Yeah. Right? But the way the three word, they make it seem like that was his whole career. Yeah. And that's just how life is. We take moments and times that's very great or very disappointing. And that's the label we put on those people. Seems like the power of social media, not an apples-to-apples comparison.

You think about JaVale McGee back in the day was always popping up on Shaq and the Fool created this perception around him and his game. Well, now I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Similar to what you're saying, Westbrook nowadays, it started with the Lakers situation fans started calling him Westbrook

but it was just those clips you know a bad shot or a missed layup or whatever it may be now that you know people thrive off negativity on social media so those things

start hitting the net and you gravitate more than that and it takes away from his overall resume and what he's meant to this game but that's the life we live

but he's hit it first ballot there, but... that's the life we live. But he's hitting first ballot. There's no... And that's the crazy part. For somebody that gets talked about in this way and all the slander he gets... It's a lot of hate because he does it his way. He's unapologetic about doing it his way. Yeah, he does it his way. Like, he'd like to...

And when people say it's his way, it's like he plays, right? It's, I'm sorry, if you have to pick a player, there's one thing that I know with Westbrook, I don't have to convince him to go out and play hard. No, no. Right? And the one thing you can't teach a player, he has it, right? So no matter how you feel about him,

you don't want to play against it, right? Because he's going to, you don't know what, you don't because he's going to you don't know what you don't know what's going to happen the 40s 20 and 20 you might run into one of them you might run into that night i mean it might be a 40 20 20 20 20 20 was he's just he made it he made it 20 20 20 which was impeccable because nobody realized add it together right think about it he literally went out for 20 20 and 20 and got it that's a whole different breed of how great a person is where they have so much into them. So I can't, as a coach, I can't say, hey, turn it down.

I got to just, you know, just go out there and just do you. Last two minutes, we'll have another conversation. And that's the thing you have at Westbrook. Is go out there, go. And then we'll talk about, we'll talk again in the next two minutes. And then, you know, the last two minutes of the game, and then we'll figure out what type of style we're going to play now. But telling somebody like Westbrook don't go hard is crazy. When you got to tell the other 14, hey, man, play hard.

Damn. It's like the Jalen Brown situation to me. It's the way how they are, their mannerisms and how they do what they want to do. It makes people uncomfortable. And it's sad because it's like I come here, I do my job, and I play hard. And you ain't never got to tell me to do this or do that. But it's just like they just do it their way. They don't fall in line.

We talked about this a little bit earlier, but how much do you guys think Westbrook will move the needle for this Nugget squad, bringing that energy, bringing that style of play to this team? Well, we know one thing. He's going to make everybody accountable going hard, playing hard, practicing hard. Even if they already do that, he's going to turn it up another notch, right? He understands the pecking order, so there's not going to be some ego coming in.

He knows who teams this is, and he's going to be cheering them on. And that's really all they need, right? You know, in the playoffs, when, you know, somebody like Murray is out, a guy who has capability of giving you a triple-double, you have that, right? There's different things when you're talking about star players, having them as backups. You have a triple-double guy as your backup, which means if something goes down and you put him in, you know the capability of greatness is in him

versus a backup guard who's never done it before. I'm not expecting this person to have a 10-10-20 game because he's never had to. But I know this guy, like, you know, with, let's say, Dwight Howard against Jokic. We know he's a three-time defensive player of the year. So him stopping Jokic, that's not...

There's no surprise there. Right? But we needed it. We needed all of that defensive player to stop him, and he did. And then from there, now Rondo coming off the bench doing some Rondo shit in the finals. Okay, we have Rondo doing that.

That's what this move is. When you need Westbrook to bring in one of those games in the playoffs, two or three for that playoff series to win one, he has the capability of doing it. Yeah, because it's all said and done. You know you can put him out there. You know what you're going to get. He's going to make this.

Like I said, whether it's an offensive rebound, he might take a charge. He'll do it all, man. And he can give Jamal Murray a rest on defense, too. Picking up 94. At this point in my career, I'm just picking up 94. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Klay Thompson was one of the most coveted free agents

this offseason, deciding to dip from the Warriors after 11 seasons of four trips to join Luka Kyrie and the Mavs. So Klay's numbers were down this past season with the Dubs, but he still averaged 18 points, three rebounds, two assists, 77 games, shooting splits of 43-39, 93, while playing the third lowest minutes per game

in his career and getting the move to the bench at points during the season for the first time since his rookie year. So during a recent interview with Jalen Brunson on his Roommates podcast, Mavs owner Mark Cuban had this to say about how Clay will fit with the Mavs this season. You know, at Golden State, he had to always be on the move. They had that motion offense where he was always coming off screens and running. You know, We don't do that. We're not nearly as much. I'm sure we'll run some of that action for him.

Chip, standing in the corner and standing in the wings and just catching shoot from Luke and Kai, hopefully his life's going to be a lot easier. We'll be able to defend, make shots, and have a lot of depth. Let's play a game of Facts or Cap.

We haven't done it in a while, but we're bringing it back. Klay Thompson's life will be easier in the Mavs offense. Facts or Cap? Life is easier? Facts. I'll say facts. And why do you think that? I know say facts. And why do you think that? I know, man.

I think because at Golden State, him being great was needed. You know, him, you know, being 20, 21, 22 type of guy was really needed for them to be successful. He don't have the pressure of being that guy in Dallas. So, you know, no one's expecting Klay to average 21-22. If he does, oh, shit. But for the most part, that offense

is ran by two dudes, and, you know, him hitting two threes, a three, you know, him going off during the season here and there, cool. But just the pressure itself makes it easier for him to just relax and just go out there and just hit shots. Less pressure on Klay with the Mavs, or is he coming in motivated,

trying to prove that he's still... The pressure... He can come in and average 20 is gonna be less pressure for him though Because he doesn't have like if clay doesn't average 20 Them two dudes are still carrying his load. Yeah, right him not averaging 20 With Golden State was a losing was a losing season So just that alone that he doesn't have to be the number two guy carrying the team, releases a lot of pressure off the jump.

Okay, let's move over to you, Clay Thompson. Life will be easier in the Mavs offense. Facts or cap? Captain obvious. Yeah, it's a no-brainer. Okay. I thought you said cap it first. Captain obvious.

Captain obvious, okay. Captain obvious. Captain obvious. No, it's one of them situations where, yeah, of course it is. Like, he doesn't, you don't have to do much. To Gil's point, yeah, if he averages 20, great. If he don't, cool. If he averages 15, cool.

If he averages, it's just, yeah cool if you have 15 cool if you have it there's this yeah cuz like you said them dudes gonna create the shots for him he still can defend so yeah nah it's yeah that's stating the obvious in my opinion right he's gonna get why one of the of the best shooters this game has ever seen, with one of the fastest release times in. So yeah, wide open shots, because them other dudes draw so much attention. Other guys have gotten better that was there

that was younger. The guys have gotten better that's around them as well. So yeah, wide open shots for Klay. Yeah, it's, yeah, so facts. What's so funny is they can come out the gates real hot too. Yeah, facts. Yo, so is he talking about, was like the Klay that was just there,

like the way he's been playing with going to state, not the Klay that was with KD, right? Cause he's saying a better- Period. No, I guess- He ain't gotta run around. Yeah, our last version of, I guess... He ain't got to run around. Yeah, our last version of what, Clay? You don't have to do a whole bunch of...

He said period, so when KD was there? Because I don't think he was... I think he was a better third option when KD was there. Yeah, he was just a spotter shooter. So that's what he's saying in this moment. Like, he just... So he'll be better in this moment as well because... I think his job was easier when KD, though.

So that's what he's saying, same shit now. Same shit, yeah. You're going to be the third option. You're the third option. You got Kai, Luka, Luka, Kai, however you want to word it. You just get to play free basketball. You just get to play free basketball. Okay.

So take 11 dribbles and score 60. Okay. You can get shit right at 12. You can have an extra dribble. So it's that. So he'll get back to that. Okay. Version of himself, hopefully.

Brandon, you think Klay's life will be easier in the Mavs offense? It's going to be way easier than Paul George's in Philly. So I'll tell you that much. Me and Ken have a bet. So I'm coming all year. I'm trying to demonstrate. Off and Achilles. Oh, it's Dallas versus.

No, no, no. I have a bet with Ken that the Bucs will finish higher... Than Philly. ...than Philly in the East. Talk to me. But you're rooting against Southern California legend Paul George? No, no, I'm just kidding. He wanted him to come in second.

He didn't want him to be first. He didn't say he wanted him to lose. He just wanted this team to have a better record, and I just don't think so. So you say, fact to clip. I don't think y'all got better. Huh? We did get better.

Damon, Damon Young. Y'all didn't get better. Who? That's it. That's it? Well, we needed to get a year under our belt. Doc coming back, regrouping, refocus. I'm about to go out, I gotta go out there anyway.

So you got them boys playing with a weight vest on. I'm gonna tell y'all what's going on. Hey. I'm gonna come back. We don't need to know what's going on. So you got them boys playing with a weight vest on with, with,

with one hand handcuffed. We know what's going on because it's always been going on in, in, in basketball itself.

Who won championship last year in football? Chiefs. Chiefs. Who got better this year? Chiefs. Okay.

Right? Mm- Okay. Right? Mm-hmm. Right? The team that won the championship went out and got better so they can try to win another one knowing everybody else is going to get better to dethrone them. In the NBA, we don't do that, right? We win a championship, we think this motherfucking team is good enough to run it back to back without any new players. Knowing that whoever we lost to is going to try to get

better. Whoever came in third or fourth, they're going to try to get better. And that's what Philly did. That's what Philly did. They got better. We want to win this year. We don't have time to fuck around. So if you're the champion, if you're the champs last year, you're not

looking like, okay, they got better shit. We need to add some pieces too. You can't be stubborn to your own winning success, right? You know, Jordan and them got better. Right? Golden State, they lost, but shit, they instead of saying we're going to get a new piece, they went and got a whole star.

Let's go. Boom, right? Yeah. And I don't think Denver's got, I don't think Denver go. Boom, right? Yeah. And I don't think Denver did that after they won the championship. And Milwaukee, they did get game, but you know what your flaws were last year. You should have cleaned those up too while you was out there. Yeah, I think so.

This summer. So would you say the Celtics got better? Who did they get? They just locked everybody in. They just locked everybody in. Oh, that's what's up. What about the Knicks? You said the Knicks got better?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Six. Ed Bridges. Mm-hmm. Ed McHale Bridges. Absolutely.

What about Sacramento? Sacramento got better. I mean, yeah. Mm-hmm. So you don't think the Celtics are retaining that crew, not letting any of those dudes dip? I think that's crucial. It's crucial, but...

But there's got to be help. You couldn't have upgraded... I mean, you know, Porzingis, they won without Porzingis, so him coming back, but you could have upgraded... Like, you could have upgraded some pieces in it because you do have flaws, right? And do you think you can sit there with a full roster, with your roster, do you think you can beat Philadelphia straight up?

Philly's hearing me, man. What I'm saying is that's how you have to sit back and think. Like, us five, we locked down our five, the next five. Do we think we're good enough to beat them? We locked down our five, the next five. Do we think we're good enough to beat them? I mean, if I can't say, hell yeah, then that means I need to upgrade somebody. Right?

If I can't just be like, oh, yeah, we'll forward them, or we'll five, you know, four, one. If that's not, if you be like, oh, this is going to be a good game, then you need to upgrade Hey, I don't want I don't want good game going across my mind and I'm the defending champs Domination is this domination like they that means they because if you would ask them last year Hey you you they'd be like, yeah, we're the four old the fuck out there If you're talking about, you know, this would be a good game Then you need to upgrade because that means they've upgraded enough

to get on your radar. Because they did. But enough to close that gap. From Philly? I'm just saying. Celtics won the East by 14 games last season. Hell, Joel wasn't helped. I understand.

Joel missed it. No, so you can't do that. Yeah, I'm not going to be sitting there praying that he get hurt the whole season because I don't want to face them. I don't want to face them. I don't want to face them. Yeah. Yeah, no, they a problem, dog. Because there's one thing that Joel Embiid do that Boston don't do.

Get to that free throw line. You're going to get them. Him and Max, they're going to clean up them free throws. Back to Klay. When it comes to Klay's life being easier with the Mavs offense. Max. Clay, when it comes to Clay's life being easier with the Mavs offense. Facts. And just one more follow-up on the Clay talk.

How much is this game going to benefit for playing with Luka and Kyrie and having two guys? And will he suffer at all with having two guys who are ball dominant? Or does he just get to hang out in the corner now, shoot it at will? Like I said, shoot it at will. He played with Kevin Durant and Curry. That was a different Klay, though, as well. No, it was a more stubborn Klay back then because, you know, he went from being the second option

to the third option. Yeah. And if you look at it, I think he took more shots than them two anyway. Mm-hmm. Right? He did. So, right now you have a Klay who understands his roles. look at it, I think he took more shots than them two anyway. Mm-hmm. Right? He did.

So, right now you have a Klay who understands his role, so I think he's gonna thrive. And I think that's what they was missing last year, that 15, 18 points. Yeah, guaranteed. You know, like if those guys could've hit some shots, could've been different. Well, how different you throwing that motherfucker over to Derek Jones Jr. Throwing that thing over to Klay. Mm-hmm.

Different feeling? There's a whole different fear in the defense, trust me. Yeah. I guarantee it. Yeah. That's kind of what's going to look like. Luka might average. What's so funny is Luka might possibly average a triple-double. Yeah, with Klay there? Yeah. That's kind of what's going to look like. Luka might average. What's so funny is Luka might possibly average a triple-double.

You want me to play there? Yeah. Personally, I don't want to put this out of pressure on him. I'll be surprised. I'm not going to say this. I'll be surprised if he don't have a triple-double because if you was averaging that many assists with what you had, now you have a guy who's a catch-and-shoot,

so some of your assists will come without even any effort this time. You should average a triple-double. Like, and most likely, he will be a candidate for, he will probably be the number one candidate for MVP. You think Luka this year will be? He's going to do something that hasn't been done in a few years. And that's average and triple-double.

And people will respect it again now if Luka does it? No, if Luka does it, it's the best thing since Oscar Robertson did it. They're not even looking. They're trying to forget Westbrook did it.

Oh, yeah, you know, since Oscar Robertson. They'll add some type of percentage in there on the scoring and, you know, they'll tweak it. With three threes. Yeah, yeah know, since Oscar Robinson. They had to add some type of percentage in there on the scoring. You know, they're tweaking. With 3-3. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

With the 78% and over on the free throw. They're going to do some shit. Yeah, more offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds. With, you know, the first person to Oscar Robinson, they have it boom, boom, boom, and then they'll try to turn the turnovers down. No, they'll hit you with the only one to do it, with three or more made threes or whatever.

Or turnovers, you know, less than 2.5 turnovers. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, they're hit you with the only one to do it with three or more made threes or whatever. Or turnovers, you know, less than 2.5 turnovers. Yeah, they did. Obviously, they're going to do that. Trust me. All right, well,

let's keep this thing moving. So, Gil, during our Monday night watch party last night, you said you may or may not have tried to sabotage the Wizards in the 2009-10 season

to help them get the number one pick. You just didn't expect it to be John Wall. You said, I don't know if you... That was the Bud Light talking. Bud Light. Bud Light.

Bud Light. Wait, wait, no. I was playing that year, wasn't I? 2009, 2010? Yeah, that was my rookie year. Yeah, I was playing. Yeah, but you said you may or may not have... That was a year before I was...

It was a year when I wasn't playing. Okay, okay. Well, nonetheless, so Sam Cassell was a three-time NBA champion as a player before making the move into coaching, getting his start as an assistant with the Wizards. Cassell was on the staff when the Wizards took John Wall with the number one pick in 2010. So Cassell was on the Draymond Green pod and shared a story about a tough conversation he had with Wall during his rookie year and the sometimes harsh reality of being a top pick in the league. Tell you a story.

John Wall, his rookie year, he lost eight games from high school to college in two years. Knocked on my doorstep. Mm-hmm. What's going on? John Wall, in tears, in tears, crying. He lost 25 games in the December. He asked me, he said, OG, is it going to get any better?

You ask any guys I ever coach, I'm not going to lie to you. I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't going to lie to you. I said, I looked him in the face, I said, come on up. I said, no. And guess what, Jada?

I throw him a towel. I said, it's going to be bad next year, too. But we got to grow. Absolutely. We got to keep working. So, KD, we'll start with you. Cincinnati, all four years you guys won at least 26 games. Senior year you were 29-4.

Rookie year with the Nets, 26-56. 26-56. Gil, you were 55-15 your two years at Arizona, including the championship game appearance. 21-61 with the Warriors. Ran a little different. You made the playoffs your rookie year, but how hard is it dealing with being on a trash team in the league,

especially as a young player, and this is your entryway into the NBA? See, I'm just coming in as the number one pick, right? I know I'm going to play. That's the only guarantee that it was, you know what I'm saying? Like, look, we had a – so I looked at the situation like you were saying. Like, y'all had the number one pick for a reason. Like, y'all were trash last year.

So, same squad, you just added me. I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm just so, wasn't expecting really to win too much. But just going out there, who would have an opportunity? I mean, so, yeah, the only win 26 games was, it was tough. Yeah. But I don't know how long it's losing streak. Like, I don't know if it was, for us to win 26 games, it was, yeah.

But, no, it was something to take some getting used to a little bit. Did you come in at least optimistic? Like, all right, you know that they added me. I'm gonna be the difference maker. I'm gonna get this. I was just going to hoop. Like, I didn't know if it was gonna translate

in the wins or not, because it just... I know training camp was hard as hell, and... Easy run. No, but it was that, man. I'd just go out and try to, yeah. Like I said, I knew I was going to play, so it wasn't nothing other than just going out and hooping. And at what point did you recognize or realize, like, all right, we're going to be trash this year,

and I just got to deal with it? Oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying? We had a few losing, like, games, like, losing games in a row, stuff like that, like five games here. So you know when you lose, I ain't never. Like you said, I lost four games my senior year. And two of them was the one I got hurt and the one in the tournament that I didn't play in. So honestly, I only lost two games my senior year.

They lost four games. No, I'm saying the team lost four, but the team, when I was on the floor playing, we only lost two games my senior year. They lost four games. No, I'm saying the team lost four, but the team, when I was on the floor playing, we only lost two games. So coming to that the following year and showing up, yeah, it was just like, yeah, going to lose that one. Yeah, this team, you're going to lose that one. Yeah, that's enough. Yeah, it was a little getting used to.

So let's just talk your rookie year. Nets started six and four that season. They went on a nine-game losing streak. First 10 games, people like, dude's just not getting in shape and shit, right? Like the rest of the league, the good teams, they just not finding their legs in 10 games and all that. Then we lost nine straight. Then it was from there, right?

One point high. So. But that's the formula, though, right? When you're thinking about the college to the NBA formula, the worst team in the NBA is taking the winner, right? You're rewarding, and that's always been my thing, you're rewarding bad habits. You're rewarding losers, right? So we're taking this winner over here, this very great guy, and we're putting this great

mindset on this losing team. Nah. But it's the hope that that great mindset will help uplift that. But they've never, I get it, but they've never been, how do you, there's more losers from the team to the organization to the coaching to the general manager, and there's just this one winner, right? And that's the thing. Maybe two.

I mean, yeah, but if you've been winning your whole career from high school on up to everything, I mean, they're hoping that you've been winning your whole career from high school on up to everything, I mean, they're hoping that you come in and you have that type of mentality. But it ain't just you, though. Yeah, you're not. Like, I came in rookie, right? I mean, but it was just LeBron and Cleveland. I mean, LeBron, look.

He didn't make the playoffs. He didn't make the playoffs. Yeah, but him coming in there, you could tell it was going to change. Things are going to change. But think about the mindset. So they won 37, what, how many games they won in his rookie year? But think about the mindset they had to get rid of. They had to get rid of that, bring in a new coach. Yeah are going to change. But think about the mindset. So they won 37, well, how many games they won as rookies? But think about the mindset they had to get rid of.

They had to get rid of that, get it, bring in a new coach. Yeah, the next, right. But that don't usually happen where niggas is getting, these losers is getting fired and traded and, right? So sometimes this greatness,

this great player, this winning player is stuck on a bad team and he's being judged for it. Or you got to make a few moves, like just say my situation, my rookie year we won, what was that, 26 games? Yeah.

Next year, we trade for J.K., we move a few pieces, and we make it to the finals. Same thing, yeah. Right? Right, yeah, but he went into a situation where they were losing, next year, boom, why are we changing this? But that didn't start with him. That started with upstairs.

No, that does start with him, though, because he's the number one pick. How many teams have done that? I mean... Like I said, it depends on who you are as a player. Somebody like John Wall, you come in and... When I got drafted, I'm sitting there like, okay, yeah.

Everybody here early. What time practice time? Am I here too early? Right? And, you know, they're trickling in, practice about to start at 11, 1045, 1050, motherfuckers just coming in and, you know, sitting there, no urgency. Now he got to get stretched like, practice at 11? Oh, okay.

And then all you're doing is just looking at all the bad habits. And as a rookie, you don't know if that's the norm, if this is the norm, if this is how we do things. You know, now you're trying to put your, like, you know, you go in, you start going in hard, and they'll be like, come on, slow down, Rook. Come on, man, it's just Pratt. It's just warm-up, man.

Don't do that. Right? They're turning you down. Think about it, right? Am I right? Yeah, man. It's just practice. Just warm up, man. Don't do that. Right? They're turning you down. Think about it. Right? Am I right? Yeah, yeah. You coming in.

You coming in. And all you know is go hard and practice, go hard through everything. That is the opposite of what they want to do on a losing team. So they're telling you, like, yo, slow down, man. We just started, man. Let me get my legs warmed up. Because you're stretching. You're sitting there ready to go, like, yo, yo, yo. Nah, just started, man. Let me get my legs warmed up. Because you're stretching. You're sitting here ready to go, like, yo, yo, yo.

Nah, come on, man. We're not doing that today. Easy, young fella. Easy, young fella. So what about KD? He came in, changed that franchise's mindset. What about Steph? Who was there?

What about Steph? Was it Seattle? Was it Sonics? It's not the one person. It's not the one person. It's not the one person. It's not the one person. It's not the one person.

It's not the one person. Like, that squad. Yeah. He's coming in. It is the one person. It is the KDs. It is the Stephs. It is the LeBrons. It's the organization one person. Desmond Mason, like that squad. Yeah, he's coming in. It is the one person. It is the KDs. It is the Stephs. It is the LeBrons.

It's the organization wanting to win. No, it's them coming in. Them coming in and bringing in excitement. So you're saying no Clipper ever since Donald Sterling got this team. There's not one Clipper that wanted to go hard. Probably, but they didn't have it like Blake Griffin. Like Blake Griffin is the one. You don't think? Blake Griffin came in there

and everything changed. Think about one, who changed it? For the Clippers. He did! Him. Him. Blake Griffin. What did he do that the other 70 top five picks didn't do? Didn't bring excitement like he did. So...

Didn't bring... Yes, but I'm saying, I mean, Blake Griffin was number one pick, like, out of college. Well, technically, Blake didn't play his rookie year, so... Yeah. I mean, he was hurt. I mean, he was hurt. But what I'm saying is...

But when he did, though, I mean, but when he did, but when he did play... When I was a free... But I'm just saying, when you're talking about... Which I could have said that my rookie year. When you're talking about mine, just mine. Steel got paid. Coming off an injury.

What year was that? I know it was 2003. How many free agents did they have in 2003? Who? Clippers. Chicago with D. Rose. Same thing. Chicago was in a fucking slump until D. Rose came. But the organization is a winning organization. Rose. Same thing. Chicago was in a fucking slump

until D. Rose came. But the organization is a winning organization. They put pieces around them. They put pieces around them. Sometimes... They became back again once. They were only a winning organization

because of the 90s. But what did they win, though? Only because of the 90s. The Bulls are only a winning organization because of the 90s. But what did they win, though? No, it's winning because I don't have... What did the Bulls win with D. Rose?

They got to the Eastern Conference. I mean, that was the closest... There you go with this stuff. They got to the Eastern Conference. I mean, that was the closest. There you go with this. They got to the Eastern Conference Finals. This fucking second place shit, man. They got to the Eastern Conference Finals. Who cares? They got there.

Who cares? I made it to two finals. Where's the Conference Finals? Who cares? Who gives a fuck? I mean, yeah. Who cares? Came in second.

Don't nobody care about their losing shit. But they got there. What did they win? They didn't even get there. What did they do? They haven't got there since Mike. Mike, listen. The dads want to have a reunion

on Eastern Conference finals team reunion. My wife tried to convince me to go. She's trying to convince me to go. Because they think that was winning. I mean, listen. It was success, but it wasn't winning.

No, no, no. I understand what you're saying. But think about this. The team was such losing. They lost so much that they want to cheer that they made it to the Eastern Conference Finals or went to the championship. Yeah. Eastern Conference champions.

I mean, that's their own. The Bulls, I get not what I'm saying. The Bulls haven't had that much excitement since D. Rose. But excitement and winning is who told us. They were winning. They were fighting it. They just couldn't get past it. What do you mean they win?

The organization can be winning. They were fighting it. They just couldn't get past it. The organization can be winning. So they didn't do enough. They can be winning spirits and they just got bad seeds. Right? And then they got one good seed and they're like, we're going to put our eggs right here. There can be a loser at

the top. Donald Sterling. I'm going to fuck what y'all trying to do. Bruce Ratner. I don't give a fuck what y'all trying to do. Bruce Ratner. I don't give a fuck. We can have LeBron James. We can have all these people. I don't give a shit. Because his thing was this.

I'm not paying nobody. I don't give a fuck who you are. Right? When your rookie deal is up, there's no rookie extension. Get your ass in free agency. Three. You three and done. That was his motto.

Three and done. The Clippers. Clippers. Yeah, but it wasn't for who, though? Three and done. That was his motto. Three and done. Clippers. Yeah, but it wasn't for who, though? Three and done. It wasn't for Blake Griffin. You know why? Because I came in and I changed like I just said. It's not you.

It is me. It is me. I'm going to tell you what happened. I jumped over that car. Y'all knew what time it was. It was a dunk contest. This started in 2003. We're pulling it up right now. Where you hear the Blake coming? Grab was. The dunk contest. 2000. This started in 2003. You know what I'm saying?

We're pulling it up right now. Were you at the Blake Cummings? Grabbing information. My graph. 2010. Yeah, 2010. You're talking about the year with Lamar and all those guys.

Yes. Okay. I'm going to tell you what happened. I'm going to tell you what happened. No, they were exciting for sure. I was here. He wasn't here. He was in the NBA.

I was in LA. We were doing all this at a young age. Everybody was doing this. You were in junior high school. Everybody was doing this. Everybody was doing this. I'm going to tell you what happened with the team, this exciting team. What was about to happen here? Give me one sec. I will give you these.

Damn, what kind of internet? Y'all know how to Google? Yo, you know your internet. Let's just go 2003, free agents. With Keon Dooling, everybody. That's all you're doing. Elton Brand, they had everybody. I can do it. I know what I'm looking for. I'm seeing Elton Brand, Corey McKeddie I can do it. I know what I'm looking for. You're ahead.

I'm seeing Elton Brand, Corey McKeddie, Andre Miller, Lamar Odom, and Ola Candy. They were all free agents. A couple restricted. Okay, so say it again. Elton Brand. One. Corey McKeddie. Two.

Andre Miller. Three. Lamar Odom. No, Andre Miller wasn't there. Yeah, he was. Okay, four. Lamar Odom. Five. Michael Ola Candy. Three. Lamar Odom. No, Andre Miller wasn't there. Yeah, he was. Okay, four. Lamar Odom. Five.

Michael Olofkamp. Six. You have six free, six Clippers were free agents. There was a memo that went out and said he letting all of them go. He ain't paying none of them, right? David Stern had to step in and say, oh, hell no. You have to pay somebody this summer. You're paying somebody.

He had six. Them six, think about the names I said. He was letting them all go to free agent. He did not give two shits about it. And it was like, no, you're paying somebody. It's the head. It's the head. It's the head. Think about the concept. You're saying these six players coming back and then free agent,

you can sign this and build a team. He's like, fuck that building. Let them all go. Let them go to free agency. I don't want none of them. That's how Lamar Odom got to Miami. That's how his team got spread about because he didn't give a fuck. So when you're talking about.

Dre went to Denver. Yeah, Dre went to Denver Lamar went there That's it was okay. I think with the Timberwolves Three of them win. So who did he sign back? Ellen and uh, Cory McGinney And he had him he had the money to sign them all you know, this is decisions at the head, right? Just take my situation with the Nets Got a one guy Bruce Ratner majority owner. Mm-hmm. I'm a free agent. This group say yes. He say no I end up in Denver And no matter what kind of window of all-star

Two finals appearances all-star all that shit You want to do it? You say that's what the team suffered It doesn't matter you can be a winner all you want if the guy Got it signed the text if the guy does sign in checks don't give a fuck then there's nothing your winning spirit goes out Of the window what the pencil if you milk moving the needle like that What else you bring to the table though, so I wasn't moving the needle I don't know I'm saying are you moving the needle outside of basketball? I don't you don't need your needle don't matter to him What you're bringing in,

yes, it does. If I'm a business guy... Hear me out. When I signed with the Denver Nuggets and I left New Jersey, they lost half of their season ticket holders. Moving what needle? Moving a needle, absolutely.

So I'm affecting your bottom dollar when you lose me me put half of this to call in council a season ticket hold right bad decisions of business leads to bad decisions on there's a New York Knicks fan right there right how much going to know the answer. He looking around. I know, right? There's only one in here. There's only one. When the Knicks open the door, no matter who's on the team, how much do they make? I don't know the exact dollar amount,

but I know there's no ticket cheaper than $150. This is for Nick King. Right? So no matter if their team is successful or horrible, when them doors open, they're maxing the dollar. So if you're a businessman, he don't need to win. I'm getting my money. I'm getting money because of my market. Los Angeles Clipper fans, they're coming to the game no matter what.

That's why he didn't need to win. So he's saying, well, I'm making damn near, I'm, I'm, 90, 90% of the people are gonna come in every day. Why do I need to pay him 80 million? They were coming in here when he was making three. Next, next. And that's why he never paid anybody max money because the season tickets is being sold no matter what because of the market.

Right. It's only certain That's what it's only certain workers that can do that. There's only so Los Angeles Boss you're not in New York, New York, but there's only a few team redskins. There's football teams wait commanders commanders It take too much thought process to be like Washington command. I'm like, who the fuck is the commander? But the fact that they roll with Redskins so long, that's like calling a team the Blackasses or something.

And everybody just, you know. Yeah, I get it. But if they was called the Blackasses when they started, and goddamn it, I know them as the Blackasses, goddamn it, I don't know how I'm going to change. Yeah, I'm calling them the black asses, god damn it, I don't know how I'm going to change. Yeah, I'm calling them the black asses. Chicago black asses. I'm sorry. This is something y'all should have fought against

way back when. I feel like they were fighting, but nobody, hey, the game's on. Hold on. The game is on. Now, but the game has changed. Like, more winners, more winning owners is coming into the NBA.

You remember, most of these guys bought these teams at a very cheap price. Yeah, for sure. Right? You're talking about, right, they bought it back when, you know, the four owners, a million dollars for their team, right? Dang. Yeah, you know. And now it's worth it.

Now, you know what I'm saying? Think about an owner who bought his team for a million, 10 million back then, and he still owns it Why does he need to win? He's everything is just go through a Jerry Jones bought the cowboys for Cowboys for peanuts and why you think he is hard to negotiate with him up I know he begin this nigga. Well, I mean this uh, this this black African the mirror Burrhead whatever reason it wasn't

Like a Ted Leone's name, right? I'm gonna look at that they bought the name for what would Jerry Jones both cow across like the Wizards was bought for about two, huh? 140 140 140 Wow, we're now worth 11 billion dollars Huh peanuts, you're right. Oh shit 140 million. 140 million. Wow. What year? It's now worth $11 billion. Huh? Peanuts. Yeah, you're right. Oh, shit. 140 compared to 11 billion?

That's a hell of an investment. Huh? 140 compared to 11 billion. That's peanuts. 1989, 140 billion. That is peanuts. That's peanuts. Yeah, he bought it from the dude, the dog car who used to own the bowling alleys and

stuff. Bumbrite? I think HR Bumbrite. Yeah, I think Washington was bought for what, like three, like a little under $500, right? It's the cheapest buy. It was the last cheap buy, right? What championship does he, like his team is evaluated, what, $3-5 billion?

What championship do these motherfuckers need to win? Right. You know what I mean? It's rare to have the Bucks owners come in and win like that. Cowboys ain't won none since 95, dog. You can blame Donald Sterling for all that. He bought the team in 89. They ain't won a Super Bowl since 95.

He won. He did what he wanted. Motherfuckers worth $11 billion now. They ain't won... You hear me out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They ain't did nothing but gain value since the last Super Bowl win, which is in 95. All these NBA championships we get

now is all new owners. Yeah. Gotcha. But you blame Donald Sterling for all that. Gotcha. Clippers sold for $2 billion, then where did the Lakers work? Where did the Yankees go? The owners? Yeah. Thanking them. I'm about to say, yeah, do you blame or you got to thank them? Thank them. You set the bar. Most of the hard cap... people looking at like shit the Clippers went for two beer

What you think I'm gonna sell this for huh? Most of our most of our lockouts was because of him because everybody wanted to follow like The world said Donald Sterling. Oh, he's racist racist the rest of them owners is like he's a hero the reason is he had the model for how to make money in the nba right if you wasn't trying to win so like a team like indiana charlotte all of them i keep drafting these players let them go draft these players let them go don't need to invest no big money into them right so they really wanted a hard cap. And a hard cap, it stopped people

from making all this money. And now we can all play ball now. Yeah, that's what that shit was. They wanted a certain, that football shit. They wanted to die. Now we can all play on the same playing field. OK. Because motherfuckers like Mark Cuban.

Yeah, the players making more in the club than the CBA and all that. So he was like the blueprint of how to basically make money in the NBA without, like... He didn't want to pay for athletics. I mean, he didn't want to pay for athletics. He first bought the team. That's my pop play for him back in the day.

But, like, I got to pay for that? That's where guys get their ankles taped. He didn't want to pay for it. I got to pay for it. Yeah, he get their ankles taped. I gotta pay for it. Damn, he was damn, bro. I know cheap, but God damn. How can you possibly

win? They gave him a bill. They gave him the list of things that was bought. He was like, athletic tape? What is this for? So they don't hurt their ankles, Mr. Sterling. Why do they need that? I don't care about their ankles. Like, I'm not paying them anything. Like, this is the problem.

Dude. Why would I want to build a parking facility? We can work at the YMCA club. I can start Y. Yeah. I own the real estate at the Y. Yeah. Their cars getting broken into.

That's their problem. Yeah. Right? Damn. They must have it rough out here. Oh, hell yeah. This is all the way 2000. When did they move out of that?

2005? Like, Blake Griffin is really the first person. That group was the first person to really, like. Yeah. He don't know about the YMCA workouts and shit like that. I'm sure you heard when he got there. Yeah. From that old generation.

Now, this is all the way in the 2005-06? Yeah they used to. Like when were you there? Oh I was there with Blake and them. Oh you was there with them. Did y'all have a practice facility yet? I had a facility. Y'all just got in? Yeah it was new. Okay. Yeah I had a practice facility. He said I had a practice facility. And I only met the man once though. And they all walked the Y. He just walked through the locker room wanting to talk to CP and Blake. You staring at him?

No, he didn't even stare. I didn't give a fuck. He come in the locker room talking to him. I didn't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? I was at that part of my career. Yeah, they racism only work. They don't care.

You know, you know why I'm here. Went to the bowling event. Yeah, man. Went to the bowling event. He had a few stragglers with him. I'm like, oh, motherfucker doing it. Right? He had a few. He had like three with him like oh doing it right he had a few he had like three with him i'm like oh pimpin huh all right sterling

yeah and by did he know listen i said that he know because it didn't come to me directly like i said hey dealt with me directly i was like if it comes somehow something came my way i would have dealt with it but it it never did, and them checks was always on the first and 15th, so... What you gonna do? I won't complain. What you gonna do at that point? At that point, the cap was already out the bag

by the time I got there. Oh, it was? Hell yeah. The cap was already out the bag. People are... It was rumble. You... People with... So you... You either gonna buy into it or you gonna mind your fucking business. And y'all know me.

Yeah. I'm gonna mind my fucking business, man. I was out here doing... I ain't got time to be worried about what's going on. I'm trying to get...

He look like he having fun. I'm trying to have fun. I'm trying to go have... Took the words right out my mouth. I'm trying to go see what Greystone talking about tonight.

Greystone Manor. Wow. Wow. Shit. They'm trying to go see what the Greystone talking about tonight. Greystone Manor. Wow. Wow. Trying to go to the supper club, man. 75 every day. I'm saying. What a better time. Penthouse that, man. Day party. It's Saturday. We ain't got practice day. Ain't let us out of here at 1. I'm finna go straight to the day party. It was a better time in LA.

Servant's phone right across the street, right down the street from the practice facility. You know the ministry school. You know the Garden Eden? Garden Eden. I think Garden Eden was before your time, Brandon. Service school. Yeah. Garden Eden was the Greystone before.

Garden of Eden. Garden of Eden. Sunday night. Yeah, I was... That's a dope name. I forget all of those establishments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, I... You, I was- That's a dope name. I've been in all of those establishments. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. You could come in next summer's old- You got some people going out in the day where, listen, this is, I'm older than, I was in the streets like, when you had the, like, they wouldn't let you in with certain shit on. Yeah. Like tennis shoes and shit, you couldn't come in. Yeah.

No matter who you was. Who you was back then. No matter what, no matter your stature, whatever it was, if you wasn't dressed appropriate out here, I'd see them turn some dudes away. I was like, oh, you can't get in, big fella? NBA dress code. I think that's because of NBA dress code. This is before.

This is before dress code. I'm talking about 2000. 2001, 2000. Because you remember back then, everything was big. Yeah, the jersey era. This is before that. You couldn't wear that jersey in the club, boy. No, you couldn't wear it.

Yeah, you couldn't wear it. This was the throwback era, but you couldn't wear that in the club. Sure, but they turned us around. Hats. That hat, basketball shoes, white tees. You had to be... Oh, collar button down. You was spitting money.

They was buying... Coochie was popping. Coochie. They was buying Coochie's butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to put it on. Hotter than the motherfucker in the club. Buying Gucci.

That's when I first started buying Gucci shoes. Gucci shoes. The low price. Because you had to buy... You had to be gone hot in the motherfucking the club fine good. It's when I first started buying Gucci shoes Hello, you had to buy the yeah, they wouldn't was turning big-name dudes away at the door, right? I'm a rookie right? I'm coming to my rookie right after my rookie and I'm seeing them turn Like multi-year all-stars away at the door dudes that it made a whole lot of money at the door They turn them away and cuz I didn't you know, you're going to get in, like, hey, I'm going to put that thing on. Dr. Dre, famously one of the few black men that could go to Century Club with the jeans on and his team strong.

No jeans at the Century Club. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day. I don't think people appreciated that bar for what it really meant if you didn't live out here. The Century Club. You were not getting to the Century Club if you had jeans on. Not at all.

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So head over to Underdog App. Use promo code GIL to get $1,000 in bonus cash and all of these special promos. So we talked about Donald Sterling. Not a great owner, but, you know, we've got to, you know. It depends on who you ask. It depends on who you ask. His bank account said he was an amazing owner. Yeah, he said, shit, I got y'all two bills.

What y'all want to do? All because my boo wanted to take a picture with Magic Johnson. Think about it. But LeBron is entering his 22nd season in the league, his first teaming up with Bronny. Although it's unclear just how much gas LeBron has left in the tank, according to his longtime friend and business partner, Mav Carter, it is clear what his next chapter will be once he decides to hang him up.

LeBron is dead set on owning an NBA team, but he's still playing. And I have no idea how much longer he's going to play. I would have thought he would be done a few years ago. But he looks, you know, he's out there with the beard now, with the gray, still letting the young guys know Grand Pops is out here still balling. So LeBron has expressed his interest interest in one owning an NBA team before but obviously mag making it clear Do you think LeBron obviously we see Michael Jordan going to that space with the Hornets didn't turn out as well as his playing career Do you think LeBron will have more success as an owner in the league when he does decide to make that move?

I mean, I think just owning the team in general is successful Do you think LeBron will have more success as an owner in the league when he does decide to make that move? I mean, I think just owning the team in general is successful. So, I mean, of course you want to win and have a winning record, but just being able to buy a team after you didn't play is always successful. Yeah. But you definitely want to win, you know. Yeah. The first situation was Washington, right? Jordan brought in to the... He still wanted to play.

So he was having that conflict still, right? Then... Yeah, it... I do think LeBron would have success as an owner. Because he knows what the... I'm saying what the product should look like, right? What the winning recipe is for success. I think he has that knowledge of it.

And being able to handpick a situation as an owner, having that, because he's never, people think that he's had control in the situation that he's been in, being the top guy. And decisions has always run through LeBron's desk when decisions has been made. We don't know that to be true or false. But in this situation, he will have that

where every decision will run across his desk. So being able to yay or nay signs and trades and things like that, I think is a recipe for success for him. With the team that he'll put around, because I'm pretty sure Mav will still be involved and certain other guys will, Rich will step away probably and be the GM of the situation now.

So it's stuff like that that he will have in place to be able to evaluate talent at the high school, college level now and stuff like that, that they've already got the knowledge of, and having success as a player with LeBron, I think makes a good recipe for a successful organization. Bronny getting the max. That's funny, because, I mean, he's going to have to negotiate with his pops. Well, mom said, you know, you get to use that.

Mom, can you call him? Well, I mean, this kind of gives us a timeline. He's trying to short me 10 million. This kind of gives us a timeline of when we think LeBron James is going to retire because it has to make sense of when that team will be built. The wave of expansion. He says, obviously, we know he can't play and own it, so he's going to have to be done to when that team will be built. The wave of expansion. He says, obviously, we know he can't play and own it, so he's going to have to be done to own that team.

So if the team is going to be built and be ready the summer of 2026, then that will be his last year, that 25-26 season. Yeah, I think he'll get win. They'll announce first, right? They will announce the next Prior to them. Yes, so when is with an owner and all this stuff, right? Cuz it's it's happy it's gonna be Vegas Yeah

I mean they got a couple arenas in the works the talk is that Vegas Seattle will both get teams and then obviously one of the Western Conference teams will shift over likely either the the Pelicans or the Grizzlies And it makes sense for him to have Vegas. Yeah, it's, yeah. Just for that, what it is. His connections there, Mr. Wynn, all of them. Yeah, he can build a, he can, he has a big network. You know, Warren Buffett, like he has a big network that they can, he's going to be in a bid for it, so.

Has he been successful calling the shots? Who? LeBron with the Lakers. So that's what I just said. That's to be true or not. People are guessing that he's making all the calls. Even in Cleveland. Hardest championship in NBA history.

Okay, well, in Cleveland. We don't know. We don't know what control he's had. First championship. We don't know that to be true or false. Whether they call him like, listen, we're thinking about signing or trading championship. We don't know that to be true or false. Whether they call him like, listen, we're thinking about signing or trading. So we don't know that.

I mean, I'm just... No, I know... They could very well be looking at him as the player. Right? No matter what his success is, some of them guys still look at him as the player. Yeah. You stay in your role, I stay in mine.

Yeah. Just like when he wanted somebody and... Remember, he left the first... The first, when he went to Miami because he didn't have no control. Right? He wanted Dwayne Wade when they did... He had control with the cast.

No, he didn't. Right then he left. The cast? Yes. Right then he originally left. He didn't have no control. People are trying to get there. He didn't want to,

this guy didn't want to pay these people. Even when they got Dunleavy, he said, me and Dwayne, they on the banana boat and shit with his boys. Dwayne Wade's a free agent. They signed Dunleavy as a shooting guard. He's like, I just told you I wanted damn Dwayne Wade. Well, it depends on what team he buys, though.

If it's in a bad market, then it ain't going to be good. We know that he ain't buying bad market. Is Vegas a good market? Huh? Yeah. Up and coming, they already got football, hockey. World champion. I mean, I don't look at Vegas as a big market.

Money-wise? I mean... Baseball coming soon. Yeah. It's... Yeah, no, it's the right place. Usher got a residency. It's turnt up.

No, I'm just kidding. Gills Arena. Summer League show. 2026. No, I'm just kidding. Gil's Arena. Summer League show? 2026. Yeah, Gil's Arena out there doing the summer. 2026. Like, if it says 2026, where it's going to be for the 2026, he's going to retire right before that.

So we can kind of gauge it, knowing that it's not going to already be in the works, and he's still going to be playing wide. I mean, unless he want to be the first superstar there, and then his last year, you know. Yeah be the first superstar there and then there'll be his last year you know yeah the league would be crazy to give like bent that to somebody else like when he got the backing in the group that he would put together to do this with so you guys have all played for different teams in

the league what makes a good NBA owner and what are the ingredients for a successful franchise from a business ownership standpoint? Mark Cuban That's a owner that cares that wants to know what his player wants and makes it happen yes It's twofold. It's everything you said is caring knowing knowing knowing sport Hearing sports and open checkbook. For not just players. It's for everything outside of basketball, right?

It's the nutritionist, it's the therapist, it's the doctors, it's the travel, the hotel, it's all of that stuff with open checkbook that I mean. And then marketing, you know, just like any- Marketing, all the other stuff outside of the 94.50. But any fucking business that's successful, what does it take to run a successful business? You have to be a people person. The people that you hire have to be people person.

Like, you got to be willing to get the best out of everybody. So you have to put them in an environment that breeds success. Right? You know, one bad seed inside of an office, you know, can create a headache for everybody. Because some of these owners are just like, some of these owners and people that work for these teams are just like, bro, it's like, what?

It's just hard to deal with. And so, like, you know, like I said, when we got word what Mark Cuban was doing, right, you know, questions started like, wait, they got video games, right? They got leather on the, they got leather and cushion on the seats. Yeah, but when I first came in This is wood They got some real seats, you know, I mean it like you started here and they got masseuse over there

They got sure about their team playing. They got an altar G like you started like you started here and we're the blazers owner Huh Portland Trailblazers owner her he take care of them too. You gotta be. One thing. Basketball man. New York. Even if you don't know about, even if you don't know basketball. Like Dolan, they said Dolan's a great. You said that shit man. Yeah. They said Dolan's a great. You can't know what he doing but he got the open checkbook. That's why I said it's twofold. You gotta know what you doing, care about the sport. But he got open checkbook. Yo the appearances that we get in the city for being a Knick. get paid. I'm just saying, you get some... You know, that once a Nick, always a Nick? Yeah. Oh, that motto is real.

Yeah. Make them feel like home. I guess make the people... It's just like anything, man. If your workplace has an environment where it makes you stay there longer than you want to, you have a great workplace. If it's one of those places where

as soon as I'm off the clock or I'm sitting there looking like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, done. You know, in class, we're sitting there, teacher talking, everybody get the fuck out. They don't like you, sweetheart. When motherfuckers start lingering around,

he's like, oh, man, where the thing at? You know, you're sitting there having a conversation still. You got an environment where people are actually happy. Tom Gores, when I was in Detroit, he was fire. He was? Yeah, he was turning around. That's how I got the Konek and Noble. Oh.

Like a bunch of these restaurants. He was the new owner. Yeah, yeah, the new owner, yeah. New owners is different, man. They coming in. It's important. I got a lot of connections because of him. Right? That's why I said the new owner, yeah. New owners is different, man. They're coming in. It's important. I got a lot of connections because of him. That's why I said the new owners is different

because they spent big money for them teams. So they're trying to turn it around. So they got to come in there and clean up. They got to clean up shit quick. Yeah, we was doing some fly shit under him. Right. It was mostly the owners that bought the team real cheap and it was making all this money.

And it was like, I don't need to put nothing into this. I'm successful the way it is. All these new owners now, it's a monopoly to them, though. I bought Park Place and Broadway, goddammit. Let me build some motherfucking houses and condos on here quick. I mean, for all the negativity that Sterling

brought, you talk about the positives in these team valuations, but now ownership groups see the potential, right? If I'm going to put these billions into it, and what the ceiling could be, yeah, I got to take care of these guys and put them in the best position. But you see a lot of that change when you were in the league in terms of what Cuban was bringing to the table compared to other organizations? Yeah, you just, just speaking the cheap shit, right? Mm-hmm.

So, I was in Denver five and a half years before Al and them came when they traded Melo. Well, six and a half years. Five, shit, six and a half years, right? We had never had a, like, like pregame or post, like like after shoot around or before shoot around, we never had food. Al came from New York. We got off the shoot around bus one day. He was like, yo, what room the food in? I was like, what food you talking about?

He was like, ain't no meal for y'all? I was like, no, you're feeding for yourself. He said, you need to order room service. My room service is in my room already waiting on me. I had the equipment dude order my food already. So my food waiting on me already. He's like, nah, that ain't the way we supposed to be doing this, bro. Like, so he started, he said something.

And then once you said it to me, I'm going to run with it. Said to me, next trip, we had food, so. It was that quick? Yeah. Yeah, once you get wind of another team doing it, and they got it. So now it's a competitive advantage for the other team, right? Yeah.

They don't want to have that. Get this ballroom with this goddamn food, man. Yep. And that's... So that's what it turned into. But it was before, like, they was cutting corners with us in Denver. Like, the Chiefs, like, not... Did you have food in Jersey? No, either then, huh? No.

So that was your first time. Same thing in or when I was in Golden State, nothing. When I first got to Washington, for the most part, man, they don't know. They just... I gave you $60 million, you figured that shit out. Yeah. There's your per diem, and you just went... You gotta talk to them, like, hey, they don't know. They just, I gave you $60 million, you figure that shit out, right? There's your per diem, and you just... You got to talk to them like, hey, hold on, look.

I'm your player, right? I don't eat breakfast before I get here. So, you know, it's just something I don't do. I'm trying to hurry up and get here and perform. When I leave here, I'm going to McDonald's. That's all I know. I'm 19, 20 years old. What was you eating at that age, right?

Now I just got a lot of money that I can keep buying more McDonald's and a lot of McDonald's, right? Kentucky Fried Chicken. It was three pieces. Now I can get 50 pieces. Eat all night, right? Is that what you want in the body? Hot sauce in my bag.

Or you can have a chef. You cook for us. You give them the parameters. Now we don't rush out of here. We can see here eat. Yeah, once you explain it to them Yeah, didn't make sense, but they don't know if nobody opens up So when we hear it, we tell them they do make it happen when I went to when I went to Orlando What I'm in there. I went 206 to 234 off the rip. They had breakfast, right? Let's say it's a game day.

They got pregame practice before, right? Then after, right? So that's two meals already. Before practice and after practice. Then you get pregame meal. Right? Pregame before the practice. Then you get pre-game meal. Right, pre-game, before the game. Then you get food after. Nigga, you didn't have to spend no

money for meals. Yeah, I'm about to say, the Knicks was like that. Four meals on game day. I didn't have nothing in my refrigerator. The Knicks was so cold, we have a shoot-around at the facility. They gave us hotel rooms right across the street. To go rest. We ain't got to go back all the way home.

You don't know... Fooled everything. Motherfuckers didn't know that, right? Until you go to an organization and you're like, damn. I wonder why they kicking our ass. They fooled. I wonder why they kicking our ass. Knicks was the first team I got to. We had multiple trainers on staff.

They just didn't have the one guy taping in the no they had multiple Like they had a few dudes from Europe that work with the soccer over the year like I had like three 2012 when I got there from the outside it looked like y'all was cheap in a motherfucker And y'all was over there advanced that shit was crazy when I got with the Knicks, but the Nuggets shit was horrible. Okay. The Knicks, no, his checkbook is open. He just... Just don't know how to...

Just don't know how to run the team. And it was a... And to his defense, now that I was there and now I'm able to think it, it wasn't him. Mm-hmm. It's always that middle guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the middle guy in that...

Speaking to him, the one he trusts. Somebody he trusts that just don't know how. Head coach after head coach after head coach, gym after gym after gym, and he was still the staple. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. The best times is my rookie year when he was free.

Hey, man, y'all need to put some respect on Dolan's name then, man. We used to bring that liquor on that plane. Oh, yeah, that's automatic. That's for sure. Yeah, but not probably like when I got to, I think when I got to like the Detroit and the Knicks, they kind of stopped that.

Oh, no. Because guys were driving home drunk. Oh, y'all, no. Yeah, I think like going like going to places were fun But coming back on that trip back now no way and you know that trip back was always long. Yeah Yeah, they're trying to stop looking. We got card games getting loud. Yeah, I'm gonna say them car games get we never got into it But I'm quite a week a loud loud people trying to sleep Over trying to sleep. Oh, I ain't no sleeping. No, we got the right

That's my name you're trying to see that's on you. Don't radio going. No, we got the radio. If you're trying to sleep, that's on you, dog. We got the radio going. We tell you take your ass up front. Yeah. That's the funny part is you sleeping trying to be a great teammate and the niggas that's wowing don't shut the fuck up. Shut up. Take your ass up front where the

coach is at. Yeah, yeah. I used to hate that shit. Yeah, man. Go up there. Go over there with that shit. We ignorant. We get mad at the motherfuckers who I used to hate that shit. Yeah, man, go up there. Go over there with that shit. We ignorant. We getting mad at the motherfuckers who's trying to get the family. They got a family. They got his sleep pattern. He over there, motherfucker, eating Brussels sprouts and goddamn

cucumbers and fucking ranch dressing. You know, corny ass. Come back here and have a conversation. There's five people at the table. There's five different bottles of liquor at the table. Yeah. Coaches always just come in the back Mad It only took one hand you know $40 mad I can't do that my wife's gonna be bad

Thirty thousand dollars in don't say They tried that shit on the plane. So what they did was the coaches in the front drinking wine, they're going to tell us we can't drink. Yeah, yeah. No, for real, no. The coaches used to. So you know, man, that dude is not saying nothing right, dude.

And for what? So the lady told me, she said that shit to me. I said, first and foremost, I'm a grown-ass man. Let's start there. So you tell me what I can't do don't work. Mm-hmm. You know what? Go tell them that Kenyon Martin said it ain't on you.

So you want me to go up there and tell them? Because I have no problem doing it. Mm-hmm. You know what? Don't worry. I'll go right over that motherfucker. Here you go. Like, yeah.

Because I'm going to get it either way it go. Either you all go do it, or I'm going to go cork the bitch myself and pour it myself. Cork the bitch myself? Yeah. Boop. Pop that bitch and pour it my. So in the guarantee on the way from, I'm going to have my own bottle.

So put it on the table. Who can't drink? Who can't drink? And then you always got that nosy media person that always in the back. Yeah. He was cool, though. He was but nosy, though.

Did y'all have media for y'all? Yeah, we did. I never got, listen, I never went past the coach's box, so I don't know who was all on our plane. When I first came in, the coaches, well, the players used to be in the back, and then the coaches, everybody used to be in the back. The way the plane was set up,

when I first came in, you had that middle, you know, the exit row, it was with the table. So everybody would sit by that table. If you was gambling, you was always by the table. In the front? No, in the back. So the way our plane was, the coach was in the front. We got on. When I was with the Nuggets, with the Nets,

the coach was in the front, the table was in the back. Yeah. When I was with the Nuggets, it was the same way. The table was in the back, the coach was sitting in the front. And then it didn't change until they changed airlines, and now the players are in the front. Oh, see, I was always, as soon as you get on a plane, them first tables, that was the players' tables.

Yeah, see? So it was two tables here. Front. Oh, no, shit, just one table. Yep. Right, and then you have your seat, and then the next row was the coaches, and they had a table, table, right?

So it was one, two, three, eight seats right here, and then whoever else. Damn, they was Rosa Parks on us. We didn't even know. Yeah, the Rosa, yeah, yeah. Damn. Fuck. Throw ass to the back.

Where was y'all special tables at? In the back? In the back, yeah. It was like two of them. And then we had the domino table, and then we had the parking. Back in the plane, boys. Sometimes we didn't have tables, and we were hot.

We show up at the airport, and we ain't got... They used to give us a warrant, like somebody ran to the plane, boys. Sometimes we didn't have tables, and we were hot. We show up at the airport, and they used to give us a warrant, like somebody ran into the plane or something was wrong with the plane. It would be the day before. They coming to me, certain guys, just want you guys in. I want you to know before tomorrow's trip, there's no table on the plane. Why the fuck ain't there no table on the plane then? Y'all need to go find it. Go find a table.

I thought we all had the same plane. We were rearranging seats. We were rearranging seats. Our plane was nasty. Bro, then we had the tables. We basically had the exit row. Then we had seats behind. So players were like, you know, yeah, we just had the, from the exit row on back.

And another thing about flying, right? So just to give the fans, like, and people. Yeah. That's why they watch those arenas. So during we fly in private of course and we doing Lord knows what why this plane is taking off, huh? Right, we're playing cards people walking some food is being served on the phone doing everything that they tell you not to do Seriously doing everything that they tell you not we do a commercial we do we are doing we do Just so you know so we're now when we fly commercial You telling me to put my seatbelt on and put my tray table up at me to do this now look at you like

For what single fact nothing we made some players my bag being right here It's bag under my legs. They don't need to be under the seat. It ain't going nowhere. It's heavy. I Know so I've seen couple niggas falling like rolling down under my legs. It don't need to be under the seat. It ain't going nowhere. It's heavy. Hey, no, sir. I've seen a couple niggas falling, like, rolling down. No, no, no. We taking off, and motherfucker like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. The plane is taking off, nigga, like this.

Uh-huh. No, seriously. Seriously. Because he was talking to the coach. He was talking to the coach, and then they started taking off and now he got To try to run back to us. So he holding on looking like motherfucker Impossible is nothing. Yeah or mission impossible positive. They hold on to the seed. Next thing, you know Yeah, but the real you forget the OC this I asked. Get the fuck off my seat. Scary ass nigga. Fuck off my seat, dog. Yeah.

The turbulence used to be crazy, too. Nigga, that's what I said. We had to fly through some shit, though. Yes. We had to fly through. We had to fly through. We used to be on the phone talking like, yeah, so, yeah. Ah.

We had 10,000 feet already? Damn. Damn. The Rookie Hazen one was when they was making rookies stretch as the plane was going up. So you have to stretch, like get in the middle and stretch as you go up and hold. So you got to do, like, it was all type of. What's wrong with y'all?

The board. I mean, the ladies, I mean, what they going to say to us? Man, give us the board. What they going to say? The plane going up, they serving food. Yeah. Oh, we not taking off? Let y'all put y'all seat.

Man, ain't nobody on this damn flight. You don't go sitting there. Go sitting there. All right. Before this be your last flight. Hey, dude. Yeah, that's serious. Yeah, that.

Hey, man, that one flight attendant, man, we don't like her. We don't like her. We don't like her, man. She talk too much. Talk too much. She talk too much. Straight up, dog.

I ain't just playing. You better be polite, nice. I'm the one, like, so I'm pleased, thank you, no thank, all that. So I'm the one to tell the dude, hey, man, you say thank you, dog? Yeah, say thank you, yeah. Like, but if your attitude is funky, listen, no. That'll be your last one. Don't be sleeping.

Don't be sleeping. Oh. And they tap you up. The fuck you want? Like, oh, damn, oh, my bad, but what? Yeah. Oh, you said you wanted. God damn it, don bad, but what, what? Yeah. Oh, you said you wanted,

goddammit, don't you see I'm sleeping? I just had a hard night. I was five for 25. Leave me the fuck alone. Where's the food? I can count. The food,

the food used to be better though. Now the food ain't like it used to be. Like, back when we were in, you know, we used to tell them, go get whatever we want. Yeah,

peer change. Yeah, I don't think it's like that. I can count in 15 years, 15 seasons, I can count probably how many times I went to sleep on the team want. Yeah, peer change. I don't think it's like that. I can count in 15 years, 15 seasons, I can count probably how many times I went to sleep

on the team plane. Like, I can probably, it's single digits. Yeah, single digits. It was too popular. It's too lit.

It's too lit. It's too lit. I can't sleep with nobody because I don't, for one, I don't trust you motherfucking NBA players for one.

And I just can't, I can't go to sleep comfortably like all the way out if there's too much going on Right around me. They got to be quiet. Oh You sneeze I'm a look you call from a look you tap the chair. I'm a look like So now my fingers off trying to take pictures this year Back from Vegas in that turbulence.

I was back there grabbing all y'all chairs. I was like, come on, Bird. Get on up, Bird. That's why I'm southwest. Oh, then you got that, oh, don't let no turbulence happen. No, I was freaking out. I was like, Josiah, it's over. Don't let no turbulence happen.

It was good knowing you. I said, this is Bird. We got more shows to do. We got one asshole in there who's, let's bring the bitch down. I ain't got no shows to do. We got one asshole in there who's, let's bring the bitch down. I ain't got no playing time anyway. Let's go. See you niggas in hell.

Oh, shit dog. Told you what I said the other day, right? We had an intervallation, he took his Bible in the bathroom. He come out and I told him, hey man, if this bitch go down, you do know you going with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got to talk to her. Come on, bird. Really got some assholes on the plane. No, I'm him.

You know, you know, you don't have to go. We can pray at your seat. He might have skipped me. So, uh... Oh, we horrible, man. Before we move on to Mosey fans, we do have some good news to report. So we saw the situation with Tyreek Hill and Miami-Dade police on Sunday.

Well, Monday night, our very own Nick Young almost had a similar situation with Gill's Hill and Miami-Dade Police on Sunday. Well, Monday night our very own Nick Young almost had a similar situation with Gil's gated community security, but he was able to flee the scene, evade the security, but however Gil, I see you got something over there. Got a $500

fine. And the funny part is, I get fined. Yes. So I told him,'m sorry Nick. I told him listen Next time pull him over whoop his ass Pull him out. I mean if I'm gonna get fine if I'm gonna get five five thousand you got to do something to him Pull him out. Yeah, all too aggressive. I want to hit a nigga. Hey, Gil, come get these motherfuckers. Yeah. Call Gil! Call Gil! Call Gil!

Call Gil! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoop his ass, because they just be running real light. Man, we got children here. These people too rich for this shit, you do it. And you ain't even got the type of car. BMW i7. What the fuck is that?

Oh, no, whoop his ass. The? Oh, no. Whoop his ass. The call has been made. Whoop his ass. So, Gillsgate community is their own ecosystem. They have their own rules, ways to move. You got to obey. Yeah, you got to stop signs. Yeah.

You got to obey the law. It's called stop at the stop sign. Yeah. Stop when you're wrong. Yeah, like, I didn't see the security yell at a couple people in these couple years I've been coming over here. I didn't see a couple people get flagged down and yelled at. Yeah, slow down. Slow down! I'm like, who are you talking to?

I'm stopped. Come on, we got a box full of books in our neighborhood. Oh, yeah, that's the white. Right? And nobody stole books. Yeah, that's the whitest shit I've ever seen. Read your book, right? Put it back.

Yeah. Read your book. Read your book. Yeah. Have you seen. Read your book. Read your book. Yeah. Have you seen it on the right-hand side? Oh, you ain't observing. When you go by today, yeah.

When you go by, it's on the right-hand side. It's a book. I saw it. I'm like, oh, that's the whitest shit I've ever seen. That's some good shit.

Put your books in there. Read your books. Sharing books in the neighborhood. Share your books in the neighborhood. Read it. Put it back. Somebody else come share it. That was a good book.

Man, they don't... Niggas ain't taking books back to the library and they charging you for it. So you think somebody gonna take it back if it's free? Go ask them where it's at in two weeks. Ah, it's in the trunk somewhere. Book never made it in the house. What is... What is this?

Oh, I let Ray Ray... You know what? Ray Ray needed that book for school. I think he took it back to the library. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to say it's like 20-25 inside the community, Gil, because I always obey the laws, as you know. Out of respect for your ex-security team.

I can't get a check or something. If you're good to them, they'll be good to you. Huh? See, this is the difference between you and I. Like, you're going to respect my house and my neighborhood. I get a ticket. Either you're going to pay me for it or I'm going to take it out your check. You do have that power.

So I used to have house fines for people that come over. I used to have house fines. And I posted it around my place. You break something, it was a certain dollar amount. If you spill color or something on the carpet, for me to get it cleaned up, you had to pay. You burned a hole in my, you had to pay. So I got tired of replacing shit with my money. So therefore, and I put at the bottom, it's a lot cheaper to respect my place. So, no, I'm fucking with you.

It's a lot cheaper. Take your ass outside in the backyard. I always go to somebody, in somebody's house, go to the backyard, sit there, and smoke. Man, that's a lot. Observe. No, we all doing the same shit here. If I could not spill some fucking... That's just...

But I would take it out the nigga check and make him get fired. However much it is. Salute to Nick for making it home safely. Now let's move on to Mosey fans. Did you guys already talk about the Lil Wayne thing? Oh, okay. Yeah.

We did talk about it. Oh, okay. Kendrick Lamar, hottest artist out there. Yeah, but the more I think about it, because we were talking about it last night, and I was after Dark Kenyon and I wasn't here. Yeah, they wrong as shit. Yeah, they dropped the ball, dog.

Who did? Roc Nation in the NFL. By not having Wayne there, they dropped the ball. He's not big enough. For the world? Yeah, he is. No, no, no, for the world. For all time? All time? Yes, he is. So what so what's his biggest the Wayne's is the biggest, huh? So what's his biggest his biggest song what this year? No, no, no, I'm sorry what you asking for this

What's his biggest on this year? No, no, no, that's all Kendrick has on him. That's fine. But 2024 Great year overall catalog Kendrick can't fuck with Wayne But when you're out there, you're not just... You're not doing... All right, so what's his biggest song that he's going to perform for us to be like? He can do a Millie. That's...

Lollipop. Lollipop, a Millie. He can do rock song. Mrs. Officer. He can do Mr. Carter with Jay-Z. He can come perform. They drop the ball. Remember, he has a...

He has a collab. He's collabed with damn near everybody. Yes. He has features that he's done. I love Wayne. Rockstar shit. Shit that we ain't even heard of. I just don't think he's a better performer than...

What? No, he's a better performer. Way better performer than... Performer? Absolutely. Live performer? Yes. Better than Kendrick Lamar?

Yes. Where do you think Kendrick got it from? He ain't get it from Wayne. Wayne ain't doing none of that shit and doing all that and dancing. What is that? Did you see him at the Super Bowl? What is that?

Did you see Kendrick at the Super Bowl? What is that? Wayne can't do that. We talking about overall performing life. Performing. People dancing, flying around, and shit. Yes, I just put Wayne. I just saw Wayne at the WWE at the WrestleMania.

Did you see that? So that's what we want to see. That's a way. And I love Wayne. I'm just saying as a performer though. That's not his Super Bowl performance. That's not his Super Bowl. That's a WS, a concert. Have you ever seen his concert?

Yes, have you? Yes. This nigga's all over the place. His energy level? His energy level is crazy. Busta Rhymes. Busta Rhymes. Have you seen it before? Have you seen it before? Have you seen it before? And Busta Rhymes. They up there. Busta Rhymes. Hold on, Brandon. Have you seen him before?

Brandon, hold on. We're bringing it. We're talking about kids. Have you seen him before? We're talking about kids of the mark. Have you seen Busta Rhymes before? Have you seen kids of the mark before? No Busta Rhymes.

No Busta Rhymes. He is arguably, go ask anybody in the entertainment industry that's seen his show, it's arguably the best show ever. You don't want to go on after him. So don't do that. Who? Busta Rhymes. You don't want to. No, y'all talking crazy about kids. Who? Busta Rhymes. You don't want to be on it.

No, y'all talking crazy about Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar will watch both of them on stage. You're performing. You're showing your age. Yes. You're showing your age. Yes, on stage. You're showing your age.

Yes. This is like a Westbrook energy. On stage, when you're talking about the energy. Kendrick Lamar is a Westbrook. You're talking about the 2024 version. This is like Travis Scott. Go to the Grammys. You know how Travis Scott energy is?

And he's entered. That's them. We're talking about when you're live performing, and the crowd is feeling your energy. And this is it. This. This is not Jay-Z. This is like a robot.

This is not Jay-Z, where you just got a bunch of hits, and you're sitting there doing this. And he's not doing that. Kevin Lamar isn't doing that. Jumping in the crowd, that water shit, that was Wayne. That's Wayne, dog. Jumping what? When you're jumping in the crowd, doing all that,

surfing the crowd, that's him. He was a rock star. This rock star shit is what we're talking about. They dropped the ball. Oh, no, they didn't. You thought Missy Elliott and... I don't think they did. I feel like they picked the right person. Because he's hot right now. Well, then get hot. He got the hottest song in the world right now. Well, then that's why you don't ever give up your spot.

You should have gave it up to Drake. That's right now. But overall... You signed an artist that's hotter than you. Drake is hotter than you, so why would we put him? Drake is hotter than Wayne. Right now. Since he signed! Oh, so you're not supposed to keep it going? No, I'm saying keep it going, but you... So is Nicki Minaj. Nicki Minaj is bigger than who? She's just as big as

Wayne ever been. As a female artist. So therefore you can't argue. So therefore, if he has a label, right? He signed. Lil Wayne was cash money, yes? Yes. He started Young Money, right?

So he's not supposed to sign artists? No, I'm not. Is he not supposed to sign artists? Your artist. So what he's supposed to do is start a label, start an artist, and get people that are not going to sell records? No, the business. No, I get that. But your artist, he's bigger than you. You want him to be bigger than him. Drake is bigger get that. But your artist, he's bigger than you.

You want him to be bigger than him. Drake is bigger than you. I want my artist to be bigger than me. Okay, so Drake should go before you. You're not big enough. You're not big enough. We're not in New Orleans. Does it matter if we're in New Orleans?

Yes, it does. No, it doesn't. Because the Super Bowl performance has never been about who's from there. You all keep putting shit in the microwave. The Super Bowl performance. You keep putting shit in the microwave cuz you about right now the football performance has never been about where they're from oh it has not but this particular

God of bring out should bring out big free this particular guy that we're mentioning is a big enough star and has a big enough catalog that they could have did this in his hometown. He fits the bill. This is what I'm saying. This isn't the BET Awards. They fits the bill. Okay, how about this? When you're talking about filling up a... When you're talking about...

So Lil Wayne is supposed to come out, baby. So Lil Wayne... Boosie, all these... Master D. Master D. They're supposed to come out? Come on, man. We're talking about the Super Bowl.

Master P. They come out in a tank? Anybody that you just named, anybody that you just named, are they bigger than Lil Wayne? Who? Huh? Who? If you hunting who,

you can hear, nigga. Who you talking about? Anybody you just named, nigga. Kendrick Lamar is bigger than Lil Wayne. No, you said Birdman, Master P, are they bigger than Lil Wayne? We're speaking out about it. Are they bigger than Lil Wayne?

No. So why you bringing them to this conversation? They're from Louisiana. They talking about it. Why bring them to this conversation? They're talking about it. They're talking about it. They had a

From New Orleans rapper that we know Little Wayne So this just because we're there that I mean, it's because we're here. It's the be because we're there Oh the ridey worldwide not bigger than Kendrick. Obviously. That's right now Obviously go to Alba. Yeah, okay Bob ourselves. We're talking about don't care about Alvin Sales. We're talking about, can you perform? Bring out BG and New York. What are you talking about? Are you talking about?

You see the show. Can Lil Wayne do a show? Wait, what BG just did in L.A. at the forum. In New Orleans? What song did he perform? In New Orleans, yes. Hold on, hold on. In New Orleans, where he's from, yes.

So Lil Wayne passes. Your point is mute. Lil Wayne passes Elvis Presley for the second most top 40 hits ever. We don't care about that. It's still not- No, you're saying- Top 40 hits ever. So why didn't they pick him in?

They didn't pick him. So both of y'all wrong. They didn't pick him. The nigga's not ready. He's not ready. I'm just asking. He's not ready. I'm asking you a question.

They didn't drop the ball. They didn't drop the ball. If you want to argue, just argue. We're talking- We don't give a fuck about that nigga. We're talking about- We're going to go to y'all city and do our thing. This is our year. We don't give a fuck about that, nigga. We're talking about... We can go to y'all's city and do our thing. Not like us. It's going to be played ten times again.

Again. One song. Over and over and over. And that's fine. Biggest record. No, no, no. He has records. He has records with Rihanna.

One song. One song. We're asking you. We're saying... It says it right here. He has past press... He's number two. All time.

All time. He's number one. Most number ones number two What is that means Kendrick is not in front of him on that one. It does matter All right So when you say he's the most like if we said all right you two niggas perform for 30 minutes three hours We don't need three hours Give me I'm saying if. The fucking Super Bowl is fucking 30 minutes. Super Bowl is 30 minutes. Give me.

I'm saying if you're saying you don't have more material. Hold on. Give me 30 minutes of that. We're saying if you have three hours and we're saying roll out the ball, let's go. This man has 40. No repeat. He has 40 number one songs. We're going to not like us for three hours. Who wants to do that?

40 number one songs. We're not. 40 number one. Who wants to do that shit? Who was already number one? So we're not So that means when he's talking about rolling out his music collab week catalog We're saying he gets to go I need it. I can pull out Jack Harlow I can put I can pull out everybody in a mama cuz I've been in it since 90 Thank you, but I've been in this is not Kendrick Lamar's 2009. Yes. I've been in it since 90 something so that means i can pull out jenny i can pull out whoever you want can you and he can't kendrick can't don't have

those he doesn't have the song you don't need to you don't have to have so he has songs with yana he has songs with uh jay he has songs with everybody he got songs with he got songs with everybody showing about you man you got people you don't have songs with. I mean, he has songs. I mean, obviously, yeah. It's like the nigga doing verses and playing the shit with Drake on a nigga like you cheat, nigga. He has, right now, he has, oh, shit, just from 2000, from 97 to 2016, they had him out at 381 features. Okay, that's fine.

How long did you have to be on the Super Bowl? What, 30 minutes? 15 minutes? Alright, so we're going to hear Lollipop, Amelie, and then what else? You got 15 minutes! You got 15 minutes! We got 15 minutes! But then you said

performing. Who's a better performer? Who is the bigger artist? Who's a bigger artist, Beyonce or Taylor Swift? Not for you. You don't need to play at the Super Bowl. What? You said what? No, no.

I want you to know. Who's a bigger artist, Taylor Swift or Beyonce? I didn't hear that part. Huh? What did you say? Yeah, yeah. I didn't hear that part. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't hear that part. Sorry. Yeah. Then Taylor Swift? What, Beyoncé? Yeah, yeah. I didn't hear that part. Yeah, yeah. I didn't hear that part. Sorry. Yeah. Then Taylor Swift? What, Beyoncé? Beyoncé? Oh, Beyoncé. Please, I just want y'all to pull up some little ways.

Swift is a new performer. But who's a better performer, right? Beyoncé. Beyoncé. I didn't hear that part. If somebody was bigger than her, when you're talking about performing one performs ones Things there's a difference

Right, just like a rapper some were rapping and a great rappers. Go ahead. Some are performers Oh say hey, do you motherfucking go after DMX? Yes. Nobody won't go off DMX Nobody want to go out the bus arrives the way I don't want to go out the rep No, red man red men and method man. Nobody want to follow after Red, no, Red Man and Method Man. Nobody want to follow them motherfuckers. At a show? These people were bigger than them, but I don't want to follow them because their energy is different than mine. So you came in here and you sit there and they sitting there jumping the crowd, motherfucker, going this. And then you come in here with your hit and the crowd is on level 10, but your energy is on level 4.

Who's energy is on level 4? So I'm asking you this. Y'all got Kendrick fucked up. Hear me out, though. We saying Rock Nation. We're not taking this shit. You taking this shit. Get out your fucking feelings. Y'all get out y'all feelings.

Y'all talking about rock. Yeah, you're right. We running shit. We running shit. Everybody else that's not from L.A., sit back and relax. No, I're right. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, we run and sit. We run and sit. We run and sit. We run and sit. Everybody else that's not from L.A., sit back and relax. So get out your... Sit back and... No, I can't.

So get out your... First of all, we agree that Kendrick was fine. I'm not worried. It ain't no rock nation either. It's a community. It's the Louisiana community. They didn't vote for him. No, it's rock nation.

It came out. What we're saying is we voted for Kendrick. We said Kendrick was fine yesterday. Kendrick's fine. I don't know what you listened to yesterday, but you come in here withrick was fine yesterday. You came fine. I don't know what you listened to yesterday, but you come in here with a whole other thing. You just said Lil Wayne's a better performer than Kendrick Lamar.

Both of y'all are smoking crack. I said they dropped the ball. Smoking crack. Let me ask you this. You know what a performer is. You don't think this man's energy in his hometown is going to be... Right?

Brandon, let me ask you this. For sure, yes. His energy in his hometown, you don't think Lil Wayne's going to come out and his motherfucking energy is going to be out? For sure, yes. His energy in his hometown, you don't think Lil Wayne gonna come out, his motherfucking energy gonna be out? For sure. So that's what I'm saying. They, Roc Nation and the NFL, taking, see this is the thing, taking nothing away from

what Kendrick Lamar has accomplished. I can give him his flowers over here and still say that Roc Nation and the NFL dropped the ball. This nigga wrote six foot, seven foot, eight foot. Because of what Lil Wayne has accomplished throughout from when he jumped off the porch. Catalog for his music. As a performer, he fits what the catalog says you should be. I understand Kendrick's hot right now.

The hottest song since whatever. I get all that. Cool. Overall, worldwide recognition, and that's what the NFL and the Super Bowl viewership, Super Bowl views, like halftime. Wayne is a worldwide artist. He's been around longer than Kendrick.

Kendrick has his fan base, absolutely. But you line him up, it ain't close. It's not. But his energy in New Orleans, if there was the... You gotta bring it no matter what if you're doing the Super Bowl, right? But his energy level there, where it would have been, talking about Wayne that is, in that place, oh my God. I just think they dropped the ball in that man There's only a few rappers that that that had that Wayne it like Wayne song his energy Like there's only like what Travis Scott is the only one that gets high feet like he used to Right Travis Scott does we're hyped then little way we were Bro go to a Travis Scott so like they That's more hype than Lil Wayne. What are you talking about? I don't know. Oh, bro, go to a Travis Scott show.

Niggas are dying at his show. Ain't nobody dying at Lil Wayne's show. Drinker niggas sitting up there. Drink. Go, DJ. That's my DJ. That's what we want to fucking hear. Drink is boring compared to Lil Wayne.

So you think that's going to be the energy? I don't know. Do you think that's going to be the energy? Probably. If they play that song down there. Probably, yeah. I don't want to hear that shit in 2024. You don't.

Yeah, I don't want to hear go DJ. So that's you. That's what I'm saying. We don't want to hear that shit in 2024. You don't. Yeah, I don't want to hear Go DJ. So that's you. That's what I'm saying. You're one person. That's a lot. You're one person. It's a lot of people. You're one person.

A lot of people. Well, we will see how Kendrick's show ends up in February 2025, but that is our show for today. You already know. We're going to keep it going. Shout out to Mr. B for asking our Mostly Fans question.

$50 getting deposited to your $100 fantasy account. Please, thank you. We're going to keep it going. Shout out to Mr. B for asking our Mostly Fans question. $50 getting deposited to your Underdog Fantasy account. Please, thank you. We appreciate everybody in the chat for rocking with us. Thank you, everybody, for pulling up Monday night, coming back Tuesday for the quick turnaround. But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa!

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