Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Klay vs Booker and NBA Leadership

Episode Date: August 9, 2023

Gil's Arena is LIVE this Wednesday with a packed show!!! NBA Topics include, Klay Thompson and Devin Booker's "Beef" sparked by Paul George on Podcast P, Gilbert Arena's reaction to the viral water fight in Montgomery Alabama and Answering YOUR MostlyFans Questions. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Chapters SHOW START 0:00:00 Intro 0:03:20 Gil Reacts to Fade In The Water 0:08:07 Comebacks You've Been A Part Of? 0:09:10 Klay vs Booker Beef 0:14:19 Pettiest Thing You've Done On The Court 0:20:28 Ever Regret Losing Your Cool In A Game? 0:30:07 Booker Comes At PG 0:35:01 Paul George's Bully Sh!t 0:40:08 I s It Okay For Men to Cry? 0:47:19 Kobe and Gigi's Statue Coming Soon 0:56:17 Gil's Arena EXPLODES Over Leadership 1:02:45 What Makes A Great Leader? 1:19:14 MostlyFans 1:50:11 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gil Eat him up, Gil Gil Eat him up, Gil Gil It's Gil! Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. What's up? We're back again. God is good. Once the show starts, that means the check has arrived. So we're here on this lovely Wednesday.

Today's Wednesday, right? Today's Wednesday, yeah. We've been doing so much shit, I don't even know what day it is. I just realized I need to, I gotta, never mind. You said the check. You gotta submit them invoices expeditiously. I haven't even turned in my paperwork yet. Neither do you.

We got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. Sammy. Miko Grimes. Hello. And we got Rashad McCann back on the couch. He was on the other couch yesterday, on the big couch today. Hey, I got benched. You got benched.

You got a DNP? Not performing up to par, I guess. No, no, you had a couple words. You got in a couple games. A couple minutes. Fuck up my average, dog. Fuck up my average, you know what I'm not performing up to par, I guess. No, no. You had a couple words. You got in a couple games. A couple minutes. Fuck up my average, dog. Fuck up my average. You know what I'm saying?

I was smoking, niggas, for a second there. I'm down a little bit. It still counts. It still counts. Peerish fee. Invoice still submitted. You already know. Feel you.

So here's what we got cracking today. We got some beef brewing between Paul George and Devin Booker. And PG said he's going to be on his bully shit. But what does that really mean? Does a star player on a team need to be the leader? And what's more important, being vocal or leading by example? And do coaches get too much credit for a team's success? But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code gills arena They will match your first deposit up to $100

You got WNBA cracker right now college football about to start NFL about to start It's a ton of things again They got best ball too, but I don't know about that shit So I ain't gonna lie to y'all tell you how to do all that sport. It's called best ball. What's that's like their main shit Yeah, I got seen it, but I'm good at picking Higher lower I'm killing WNBA. Asia killed me last night, man. She killed me. It was her birthday today, right? She's 28. Happy birthday, Asia.

I picked under on that. They blasted their ass, too. We said it before the show, but as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of the show. We're also going to incorporate Mostly Fans into the actual show. So, go ahead, drop a good question. Make sure you include your underdog username. And if we use your question, that's a $50 bonus that comes to your account. So you can keep doing these pick-ems, keep helping underdogs thrive in the fantasy space where they abide by all rules and regulations.

Just got to throw that out there. And if you can't watch the show live with us, we're on Spotify, we're on Apple. Help us jump up. We top ten. I think we top five or six, but we need to get to number one. Let's push, you know, PG and them out. Let's go. Hey listen, we can do that if we turn like only fans into, if we turn mostly fans into like like, mostly. Gills Arena uncut. You want some strippers in here or something? Nah, we can have them call in. Strippers? Yeah. With that thanks, Mel, like... Yeah, they start throwing it, and I can throw my money right here,

and then when they're off, I can pick my money back up. But you see what happens when they be calling into your shit? You got the random ass... You be having some random among us, man. I had like seven or eight of my friends call in with questions and you didn't answer them. You ducked the fades.

I don't know. Maybe they didn't call in. Maybe they lied to you. We got a special one from the chat. They said, Miko thicker than racial tension in America. They said what? They said, Miko thicker than racial tension in America. They said what? They said Miko thicker than racial tension in America. I'm thick?

A compliment. I've never been called thick before. Thank you. The chat's showing love. The chat is showing love. So before we get into the basketball stuff, we got to talk about one of the bigger moments in black history that happened this weekend. Oh, yes. We saw teamwork makes the dream work after a co-captain a riverboat Montgomery was jumped by some unruly Caucasians

I call them thugs some thuggery used to move their pontoon boat parked on the dock So after being down in the first half his crew had his back and pulled off the comeback Lighten them things up. We've seen chairs cheering. We've seen, you know, dude get his Michael B. Phelps on. Swim from the boat to the action. I don't think I've ever seen that in a fight before. Michael B. Phelps. They call him Aquaman, Michael B. Phelps. Great technique and everything. He got across there fast. Snoop Doggy, Dog Paddle. They had all, I mean, they had the the names, Lauren, but Black Twitter did his thing to honor this momentous occasion

So let's take a look at some of You know, you know, we never know what's gonna happen, but we see You know, she just got real Hit him with the Avengers A Chair then we got the chair that chair was invented by a black man It was yes, and you know, they had to come with it. Yeah, so white people got tea torches.

We got... Chitters. Yeah, we got the barbecue chairs. Barbecue picnic chairs. Here we go. I see it. They also called him Shaquille O'Gills. I mean, it had a bunch of good names. Damn. But we are a basketball show, so we take

everything that happens in pop culture and we correlate it to basketball. So Gil, I'm going to start with you. What's the best comeback that you've been a part of? I would say in the playoffs. Down 0-2 to Chicago Bulls. And we thought, you know, our playoff series was over, and we came back. And I don't know if it's called a gentleman's sweep, but we went 4-0 after that.

It went to the second round. You was down 0-2, and then you went 4? Yep. What is that? That's not a... It's called a gentleman's three, but we went full after that and went to the second one You was down 0-2 and then you won four? Yeah Well that's, what is that? That's not a... It's called a comeback. Yeah, that's it. I'm just saying but it's... It's not a gentleman's three Y'all swept those four games. Yeah

But you tricked off the first two. Mm-hmm Or two. Mika, how about yourself? You wouldn't, nobody would know. It's, yeah. I got it. You're right. Overseas stuff. Who y'all been to?

International stuff. I stuff. My first game actually in Istanbul, I had flown in and they were like, oh, you're not going to play today. You just flew in, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, this team we were playing against was real good or whatever. And I was like, really wanting to play, really wanting to play. And I'm just sitting there. I did the whole warm up the pregame thing, but I didn't want to play in the game. And they ended up putting me in the game. We was getting smacked. I think I had 35 sitting there. I did the whole warm up, the pregame thing, but I didn't want to play in the game. And they ended up putting me in the game. We was getting smacked. I think I had 35 Thursday there.

Did y'all win? Yeah. OK. Yeah, I was so high. And then it hit me after all the jet lag. Everything hit me later that night. I was so tired. I slept almost the whole day.

It was lit. 2K tourney. Where I got all my greatness information from. You know, I was considered the greatest ever because went into the crib with Jackie Long, a bunch of guys that, you know, like to play 2K. They hot shit. And I was the eighth seed.

They didn't really want me to play because, oh, you play for real. You can't play. And I swept the whole goddamn house, came back and won the whole shit. You know what I'm saying? Was it for money? Don't nobody move with me and the money. Don't nobody move with me and the money. You know what I'm saying? What about on the court? On the court, I ain't never really had to come back. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never really had to come back. When it comes to that, you'll see. We try to stay up as much as possible. I ain't going to talk about Jimmelwood or shit, We don't really have a comeback when it comes to Daniel C.

We try to stay up as much as possible. I ain't going to talk about Timberwolves shit, but, you know, that's a whole different story. Dwayne Casey. Dwayne Casey. We was down when we was down. There wasn't no coming back from that. Mad Dog shooting threes. Yeah, you know, there wasn't coming back from shit.

It's Mad Dog taking eight threes in a game. God damn. So we talk about the positive. We got to address the negative too, Gil. What's the worst comeback eight threes in the game. So we talk about the positive. We got to address the negative too. What's the worst comeback that you're on the wrong side of? Ooh. Well, I was winning and I lost?

Yeah. I don't care. I lost. I lost. I don't remember that. I had one in tennis. Not as a pro, but in tennis. You have to win two sets out of three. And we whooped these girls in the first match. It was doubles. And then they came back and beat us the second and the third set like donut, like a bagel.

Like it was my first time getting a bagel. And it hurt my feelings real bad. It was like when you beat somebody in the first set like that, you think like, I'm about to beat them in the second set. It's nothing. And then to lose both sets, I was... So you, so hold on. You're not good at golf nor tennis. Mm. Mm-mm-mm. Gil. I'm just checking. I mean,

I mean you're throwing out your resume and I'm starting to question. Talk about it, Gil. I've asked you for the tennis. Talk about it, Gil. When are you ready for it? Are you ready yet? Do you need to practice? What do you need? I don't need to practice what? For tennis. No, just hit the ball over the net. So you ready for it? Are you ready yet? Do you need to practice? What do you need? I don't need to practice what? For tennis. No, just hit the ball over the net. So you ready for that fight? Bet. Say less.

Just hit the ball over the net. Say less. It was, uh... Say less. It was Celtics. When KG, I had just went over to the Celtics for the big trade with Al Jefferson. Okay. And Corey Brewer was our rook, so Randy Whitman didn't fuck with me like that. So I remember him putting rent a

Court Brewer in the game. We was up maybe like 10. I kept looking over like okay. This will be all right Hope we lose this motherfucking game. Go find a way to lose this shit motherfuckers Ray Allen 3 3 steal KG dunk come down one, four seconds left, Ray Allen, three, game over. I said, yes, let's go to the locker room. Yes, let's go to the locker room. I fucking told y'all last, I'm going to put fucking Corey Brewer in, and he threw the

steal at the last time, he inbound the ball for the last steal for the three. I'm like, yeah, like yeah don't put no goddamn rookie in the game doing no shit like that it's a cold world cold world fucker so for all you basketball heads out there largest comeback nba history was january 2022 clippers came back from down 35 to the wizards to win that game 35 damn and speaking of Clippers here we go let's go Clay Thompson made an appearance on Paul George's podcast

this week was asked about the incident last season when he got into it with Devin Booker and got ejected yeah I was in my feelings though and Booker's bust my ass

that day I was not where I needed to be yeah you know stuff doesn't age well and I didn't age well for it I don't need to be flexing four rings bro like everybody know that that's on wikipedia my game was where was that and we all

get insecure at times i managed to admit that we all have our moments of weakness so i'm not really proud of that one but clay went on to say that that that you know he respects book he put in a lot of work deal with a lot of regime changes with the sons early on in his career and was happy to see him flourishing now in this environment So but what are your thoughts on clay admitting that he was in his feelings forgetting and where's Bud like clay? Yeah, what a bud like clay. I thought it was nice It's cool, but it's the offseason you can say stuff like that I get it, but what am I winning for rings for if I can't flex them on you? Hmm. Well, I

Think it was more about like like him saying like he wasn't playing good. So he flexed it It was kind of like a like I'm not having a good game. So I'm gonna use it It's different if somebody come at you talking shit. Did you just go like shut up, nigga? I'm cooking y'all too and I got four rings like when you go there. It's like Yeah, you yeah, you lose enough you losing the battle or the fight or the argument and then that's like yeah you yeah you losing you losing the the battle or the fight or the argument and then that's like the only thing you got like it's kind of weak only thing there's four of them yeah but that's it you win in a game okay but it was still weak and he admit that it's nothing wrong with that i'm all now so we can't flex so so what happened is we can't flex money like we can't flex money though we can't flex like if we lose and i got 50 i can't flex money. We can't flex rings. We can't flex like if we lose and I got 50.

I can't flex that. What can we flex? You can flex that. What? Like if you're winning. No, we're losing. And I got 50. I can't flex that.

But you get to flex with your little 10. You can't flex 50 in a loss? But you get to flex your little 10-ass points winning little game. All right. They lost. I did my job. Like Booger can't flex his 72 after he lost to Boston.

I mean, later on, but during the moment, no. As soon as the game's over on Instagram. Who y'all? Shannon. Shannon.

And you can't take it back. Can't take that back. I'm booked. I'm like, no, no, no, no. Keep that energy, Clay. Please don't retract that statement. I remember those four Every time I see your ass. I'm trying to get 71 Every time cuz the Marines do matter cuz remember when book was looking up at the confetti

We almost got the means hmm If you got four rings, I feel like that's, unless somebody got five, that's the argument in here. I don't get it. When can you use it? What's the point of having them then? Even if you're getting cooked. And Miko knows.

You throw them low blows all the damn time. What low blows? All the damn time. So you know about using ammunition. I mean, I didn it was it was like dope that he like it said like yeah That was a low blow like I shouldn't even have a low blow that ain't a low Wikipedia like it's not Like you say you gotta be able to use it. 10-1. Like, look, if I beat a nigga 10-1, ain't nothing a nigga can do until he beat me, right?

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna flex it until I can't no more. I'm gonna flex it until I can't. Don't even matter. All I said was it was nice for him to say, like, yeah, I shouldn't have used that. Like, come on, you don't need to use that. He's Klay. Like, he's Klay.

He don't have to use that. He's clay talk like he's clay. He'll have to use that. Hmm. Yeah Yeah, I'm with you and that's a team accomplishment anyway Well, they was talking shit to each other and He was not having a good game So he went to a team accomplishment to win the debate as opposed to individual who has a better individual stats He does he should have went with that You should have been like yeah, I'm not playing good today next time. Just Google me

Google Google me Google me dig it you say clay got better individual stats than Booger Yeah, I would say so. I mean booger has a 72, you know clay got more records. Yeah Clay got more broken individual. No, I'm just saying individual records. Yeah, he has more individual records. Yeah. It's a good flex, man. It's a good flex. I'm not mad at it.

I ain't mad at it either. Hold on, I'm just doing something. You can do some shit. I just flex. Flex that shit, nigga. Clay can't go on. I'm talking about individual, because I know he, let alone he broke like four of my individual records.

So I know. Are you still salty about it? Yeah. The same person? Which ones? Which ones? Overtime. What was that record, though? 16.

16 points in overtime? Yeah. Yeah, he got that. You mad as hell, huh? And then he got most points less than 30 minutes. Less than 30 minutes. What was that? It was 46.

Get the fuck out of here. Got 60. Oof. Yeah, it was not even that. He it was nice. Oh, yeah, he's yeah, he doesn't smack that shit across the I didn't know you had that record Yeah, he's My skin man, that's gonna be man. We got a brain like that. I took that from a bird to I mean threes you had in one game Mm-hmm seven know. I did too. We're already starting.

I'm nobody though. I try to get my shit in there when I can get my shit in there. God damn. You said A3s? Who? Yeah, A3s against the Lakers back in 2004.

Oh, four. That's early. That's early. That's early, Gil. That's not even a 60-pointer, Gil. Ooh. You wasn't even at him yet? I wasn't at him yet.

I went back and watched that 60-point game last night. I was cracking up. It was just a normal game, right? I almost did. Yeah, for sure. I was a little drunk. But that was an example. You got drunk on a Tuesday?

That was an example of the Princeton office, though. Like, that was you not having to put the ball on the floor too much. Nigga just, ah, ah, ah. Come here. Yeah. in office though like that was you not having to put the ball on the floor too much and then you just come here yeah i was a couple there's a couple of games of yours we were gonna watch it uh last night i had put the tv on outside but got too drunk so what's the pettiest thing you've ever done while you were getting cooked while i was getting cooked the hibachi has got hibachi before. You gotta go to someone else first. I gotta think. The most pettiest thing I've done? Like hurled an insult, talked about somebody's family or their significant other?

No. I didn't think of anything. Something petty in college. or their significant other? No. Didn't think of any. I hollered at this girl's man after the game. You said what? I hollered at this girl's man after the game. She had a better game than me. I was upset. You did what?

This one's from mostly fans the only fans, real quick. I was playing one of our rivals, Cal Poly Pomona, and the guys play after us. And so I didn't have a good game. She was balling or whatever. She got the best of me. And her dude was trying to holler in the stands, and I normally wouldn't do that, but I did. I gave him my phone number just to be petty. Can you imagine... ...cooking a nigga so bad that he wants to holler at your work?

Is it communal work, though? It's not. Not at the time. Not at the time, right? No one knows it's work, right? It's just like... And then you go out to the game, you're in the back and then they get you Just cooked Is in her ear like yeah? Different type of

What what are y'all doing after games? Well y'all talk to people? Yes, we sit in the stands and watch I'm the girls play first. So the men's play play after his high school college college yes wait what yes i went to cal state la is that community division two that's a violation that's a violation well i don't know that's a violation that's a great university i've never seen i've never been in a gym where the girls play before after yeah we do i went to arizona so i don't i don't know what happens after that. You know what I mean? Girls have their own...

Do they have their own gym? Yeah, they got their own. They cross campus, actually. Girls play in the same gym as the men. The girls? One gym, yes. One gym. Okay.

They got two gyms? Y'all balling already. NBA? Wait, NBA, when did you see people? After the game? Oh, I'm saying, can you imagine somebody that you cook? Like, imagine somebody in your girl's ear. Like, yo, he just cooked me, but I'm about to get back at you.

I'm sorry. By the time I left the gym, there was nobody there. Very true. Very true. I didn't really get to talk to nobody. No stragglers? No. They weren't dedicated back then.

You're lazy. And she got to be some lazy work to just be talking to the nigga I just cooked. No stragglers? No. They weren't dedicated back then. Lazy. And she got to be some lazy work to just be talking to the nigga I just cooked. Like, she got to be second tier work. So he was work? Huh? Huh? Or he was working that same day?

I think we just missed what she said. No, we didn't. She was getting cooked. She was getting cooked. We should just try to holler. Yes. That's why I said, Can you imagine cooking an egg? He gave me a little eye, whatever.

Did she flex her wind on you? Huh? Did she flex her wind? In the game, yeah. She was talking shit. She was fat-mouthing me in the game. Oh, well, that's it. All best for all.

Did you bag the work? I got his phone number. I mean, we hung out, but no, I didn't close the deal. Cap. No. Cap. You didn't go through all that. You didn't do all of it.

She's trying to like to redo it now. I didn't do all of that. Cap. Nothing. I already had a boyfriend and a side dude. I didn't even need an extra one. I need another one. I just wanted.

It was arena. Every day. I just wanted her to see it. I just wanted her to see me talking to him. Back then we had beepers so we didn't have cell phones. You had to write your phone number down. I just wanted her to see me writing my number for him. She saw it.

She got mad. But you remember her cooking that ass, though. Oh, yeah, she did. Ladies and gentlemen, it's the middle of the off season. We are one day closer to getting canceled. We appreciate y'all rocking with us. We know y'all don't got shit else to do. Don't lie.

You ain't got shit to do but watch Guild Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. I ain't ashamed to admit it. We talk about trash talk. For you as players, what, if anything, is off limits on the court? Is it referencing a particular brand of cereal? I mean, what kind of things are off limits? Stop it, Joe. What are you saying? Goddamn. I'm just like, what is off limits? Nothing.

Nothing. On the court? Nothing. What if it's a trash cereal though? Nothing. Like cookie crisps, I can't even be mad. Nothing. If you good at talking shit, nothing's off limits.

Nothing gets under your skin, Gil? Under mine? I'm saying if somebody, a player was talking shit to you, has anybody gotten under your skin on the court? Like talking trash, no. Really? Mm-mm. At no point.

That turns me up. Because I'm a player. I'm a player. I'm a player. I'm a player. I'm a player. I'm a player. I'm saying if somebody a player was talking shit to you has anybody got none of yours getting on the court like talking trash No, really. Mm-hmm. Nope. That turns me up Cuz I'm obviously if it's a trash talker, he's a defensive player and he gets that work. Mm-hmm Have you ever shut anybody up during the game like they were talking big hundreds? Under I think there's a stat out there and I think I can like it's bragging rights. I got, like, bragging rights.

Like, when you talk about the elite defenders, Kobe, Jordan, Gary Payton, all first team, I think that I'm holding, like, a 40-something plus on those guys. Points per game? Points per good points per game like Jordan game 41 Kobe 60 Gary Payton 46 Larry Hughes 46 like there's some elite shit going on with anybody who was called the first team all Defensive player they got that they got that work that work We only person that stopped me defensively was it number 80, it was like 87, 86, referees. They go by refs.

Like, his name was Joy Crawford. That was the only motherfucker who stopped me. And that motherfucker can play. He played great defense. I'm going to lock your ass up tonight, girl. Yep. So, Mika, for you, anything that's off limits? Hard R, that's off limits for me.

I usually... Oh, you don't say it? No, it's said to me. I react. Somebody said that to you in a game? Oh yeah. Wow. Tennis and basketball.

Oh yeah, you easy to beat. Yeah, easy, so easy. No, not to beat me. I love it. You easy to beat. Just throw out the N word, you done. You mentally gone. Not done. You mentally gone. Not done.

Not mentally gone. First, I'll have my whole bench. Just boop. No. Say it. I'm not gone. Say it loud. Say it loud and proud. Proud.

I'm definitely going to react. I've never been kicked out of a game. Never in my life. So you were struggling in Boston. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to react. I'm not going to get kicked out, but I'm going to react. For sure.

Yeah. Let me see. They're going to kick you out. Anything for you, let me see anything for you so no whatever you want i love it what's the wildest shit somebody said to y'all on the court that you were like damn if we were in the streets i'd have to fight you for this shit but we're playing the game so i'm gonna maintain my composure ah it ain't never been nothing like crazy i remember like i was hooping against the knicks at home, I think I had like 20, this was when they had Jamal, Steve Francis, Jalen Rose, all of them, they were stacked.

Isaiah Thomas was the coach, right? Let it be known. He sent, I can't remember the guy he sent in to foul and just be like, hey man, you got to shut this little nigga up. And I remember Jalen Rose and Steve Francis was like, hey man, listen, your ass is trash little nigga up and I remember Jalen Rose Steve Francis like hey man, listen Yo ass Marty Williams trash who was a Marty would Marty No, but number 23. I can't remember his name though. It's light-skinned dude big dude

And that wasn't my I know you tell my money Colin my college Yeah, but he just him and Steve Francis was going at me like just talking nasty like trash, bro What's fuck is you what did you die here Tom? Like I've got 20 on y'all in the second the first half what you means like man And I remember I was on a free throw line and they could hold me right in my mouth Who bowed you can't remember his fucking name at all? Yeah, but it was one of them that was... No, it wasn't. Camby, I don't think, was on the team at the time.

Research is fast at work. We're going to find him. We're going to bring him into the arena. It wasn't Marcus Fison. Lyskend, though. Big dude. He played for the Clippers, too. What'd you do when it happened? Nah, I was just smiling. I was laughing.

Who was it? Q Rich? No, it wasn't a nice number 23. Whoever I can't remember been like the 2005 16 it's not Chris Mills, but it was what did you do though? Nah, I was just I was just hooping and I was just talking shit like man. I'm busting y'all ass tonight. What's up? Like he was just looking at me like Who's this thing? You're talking? And I just is what it is In 2006 2017 I'm tomorrow. Yeah, he hit you in the middle 2008. It was 2008 When he's you know, what'd you do? Everybody say Jerry Jerry? I didn't do shit this shit. Not Jared. They searching for it. Taylor.

Taylor. Maurice Taylor? Maurice Taylor. Mo Taylor? Mo Taylor. Mo Taylor. Big Mo Taylor checked in. Mo Taylor's in there?

Yeah, he was with the Knicks then. Elbowed me and right in my motherfucking mouth. Man, he's big, so I'm pretty sure you don't wanna fuck with him. So like Clay admitting, obviously he lost his cool when he probably shouldn't have. Was there ever a point in the game where you regretted losing your cool? Yeah, I remember. It was in Miami. It was the day I met my mother.

Well, I didn't meet her at that point in time, but we were in Miami, we were in warm up lines, and I hear my name being called. And I'm like, yeah, who's never called my name before? So I'm hearing like ladies like, oh, hey. And then two ladies, I'm like, hey. And then I can just see it. She's like, I'm your mother. Damn. Oh, my God. Yeah. And then all the emotions. I remember like just. What'd you do? I threw my head. You cried? Hell no. Oh. I got, I thought I got fouled. And the referee's looking at me And I just took my head man off and just straight to the face Whose face it could have been Eric

Really? It was skinny, but it could have been here and I got kicked out of games and sent home sent to the locker room And you did that because your mother was there just the emotions. Oh, do you talk to her after? Yeah, five minutes and that was it. That was it Nothing since oh No, she did. Oh I'm tomorrow after that. You never talked to her again But yeah, that was the one time Mm-hmm. Yeah, they call that almost like I got a little emotional. That's our show. Yeah, I'll go

How'd you feel in that moment, though? I mean, on a serious note. I was mad I got kicked out because I was cooking. What are you talking about? My bad. Why'd you get emotional? If you only wanted to speak to her for five minutes and then never again.

Okay, since you want to keep asking questions. Yeah, I mean, we talking. As a kid, I always kept getting fights, you know, mama jokes. And my dad was like, why do you keep fighting over somebody you actually don't know? Right? So I remember I used to sit in the mirror and say, God, if you can get me to the NBA, I'll never do drugs, any of that stuff. I just want to meet my mom.

I'll never ask her any questions. Just give me the opportunity to meet her. And then we played in Miami. and then that was an opportunity. As much as I wanted to ask her a question, I thought about the promise I made as a little child and just gave her the hug and kept it moving. She never tried to reach out again or nothing? Listen. I was raised by a dude, right? So we don't do all the cinema. We don't do none of that.

Oh, God. You guys are... I gave my dad the number. I hope you're not teaching your sons that they can't... What I'm saying is I'm 19 years old at this point. Okay, that's early in your career. Yeah, I'm 19. This is also covered in that Anscape article that Chris Palmer just dropped on you, a lot of your pops.

Very good. I was a little disappointed. I didn't get more quotes in it, but that's between me and Chris Palmer just dropped on you a lot of your pops. Oh. Very good. I was a little disappointed. I didn't get more quotes in it, but that's between me and Chris Palmer. We sat on this couch getting all type of info and dirt on your ass, Gil. He didn't use none of it. Chris, my God. Chris, he didn't use none of it.

You gave him dirt? You gave him dirt and he didn't use it? You know, whatever. It was my cry for help. I had to take my headband off and throw it. Nah, Gil. Nah, I'm just kidding. But great article, man, just talking about you, your pops, your son, and kind of that lineage, that legacy.

Man shit. Man shit. You know me? Man shit. Yeah. Hey, pack them goddamn emotions up. Put that shit in the back. Nigga, you better not let me see you fucking cry.

Don't. Men cry. You better not let me see you goddamn cry. Men cry. Men can cry. Niggas can cry. Pack that shit up, nigga. Fuck it up. Better go in the closet, close that goddamn door and sniffle.

Fuck it off, nigga. We'll punch you in your chest, nigga. Let's get back into light-skinned chats. Yeah, let's get back. You got real light-skinned in that last couple minutes, man. I appreciate it. Oh, you did? Oh, it did.

Oh, it did. We held it together. You broke character a little bit. I'm proud. I'm like, yeah. Met your mama for the first time. I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name?

I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I was like, what's your hat name? I didn't You broke your mouth for the first time Moving I sit down so let's talk a little bit. So clay made that comment on the situation D books are Thanks on on IG Got into his feeling a little bit So you comment on the video and appeared to have an issue with PG baiting Clay with that question. So he gave Clay the salute.

Then asked PG, is that the answer you was looking for? So. What did he say something back? PG addressed Booker's comments on, well, Call of Duty livestream. I'm an old school. That's what he Booker's comments on a Call of Duty livestream. I'm an old school. That's what he was playing. He was playing Call of Duty. I stopped the Grand Theft Auto.

Vice City, he was killing it. Vice City, hey. That was it, though. Then I retired. I had to go become a family man. But PG commented on a Call of Duty livestream about Booker's comments. My thoughts on Booker's comments. I mean, he didn't really say nothing other than,

is that what you wanted to hear? I don't really care. That's Klay's answer. You know what I mean? That's Klay's answer. I asked a question, Klay gave his response. That's Klay's answer. I don't know what that was supposed to mean.

Sorry ass response. Oh, we threw that out there. Let it be known. This shit going on in the background too. That's the funny part. Shut up. Shut up. Just like a clipbook. Oh shit.

You can't be taking L's, man, by giving responses. So Booker and PG do have a little history. A few years ago, they got into it during a regular season game. I think Booker called PG soft. May have been more than that. Couldn't confirm the audio. And then they exchanged shoves during the playoffs later that year. I think game four in particular kind of went back and forth with John.

So question for you, Gil, is this just some standard light-skinned injury or was Booker justified for coming at PG? I mean, I can see where Booker's coming from. You know, like, what were you looking for? Like, you asked him the question for a reason. Like, are you happy with the answer? Because what were you looking for? I get it.

But, you know, just like Paul said, it's Clay's answer. I'm just asking questions, right? I can ask you, and whatever I get out of it, I get out of it. Did you guys see something wrong with the question?

Did you think he was, like, trying to bait him, or he thought he was going to hear something else? So he asked him trash talk-related questions, like a broad question, then shifted into that four,

but, I mean, that's probably the most pertinent Clay thing. Yeah, what was wrong with it is what I want to know. I don't think anything. some trash talk related question like a broad question then shifted into that four but i mean that's probably the most pertinent clay thing yeah what was wrong with it is what i want to know i don't think anything well you know you got beef with an egg yeah but and then you but it's not like he reached it wasn't like a a trash talk moment that didn't go viral you know i mean it was a big moment if it was something small nobody ever heard about you just reaching trying to instigate something that was a big moment. If you're talking about trash talking, I could see why he brought it up. It's just a question.

You're interviewing somebody. There's a lot of questions you can ask, my nigga. A lot of questions to ask and you're going to pinpoint that one. All right. Is that the answer you was looking for? Now when I see your ass, what's up? What's up? It ain't going to be nothing.

What's up? No, I'm talking ain't gonna be nothing. What's up? No, I'm talking about as far as who. Oh. As far as who. Yeah, we don't... Man, listen. As far as who. We ain't come out fighting.

Fighting in the NBA, like, it costs too much. Absolutely. This ain't the 80s where you can slap a nigga and it's $500. Mm-hmm. That's $500,000 for some folks, right? So, you know, we just need to draw jacks. Game checks. Game checks. Yes. you miss a game some people

getting paid four hundred thousand a game no i'm not putting they ain't listen i don't hate nobody that much for four hundred thousand right can y'all bro i don't like it i don't hate you that much you know i mean you know catch you in the streets maybe i'm sympathetic can y'all find the off season would you get fined for that probably yeah if it's a club, maybe no there was some news if something happened people got arrested Yeah, but we just did it just had caught a fade and it wasn't on it Didn't nobody get arrested the hill you can they do anything? Well, what are you telling me on a basketball court that I need to catch a fade for right ain't nothing That's done on the court that bad

People get emotional, you know, there's a problem with you. Well, we just witnessed somebody emotional in Seattle acting like that. Like some people don't know how to take things. You got to go talk to your mom. You got to go talk to your mom. Some people don't know how to take things. Go talk to your mom. You got mommy issues. Yeah, mommy.

That's mommy shit. Go talk to moms. How would you grade this beef? F? Tubestack? F. Bottom round? It's small. Yeah, because PG's's like that's a sorry ass response and book just like you know is there a Dollar Tree store

still they got dollars changing the prices now what is it they haven't said yet but they just made an announcement like last week that is no dollar for a dollar treat meat that's what it Oh, that's me and Dollar Tree I don't know. I've never been there. I've been in Dollar Tree. There's no meat in there I mean I see that she want to run by like thrift store and shit like that I've taken my son shopping in Dollar Tree a lot You can you can really make a kid happy in Dollar Tree. Let me tell you I mean But I've never seen me

My son yeah, I give him a $10 bill he's go crazy and all this we need a bump you'll pay up cuz you've How does your son he's now 12 not the same now. Okay, just like a 12 shut up There's nothing wrong with that all right, It should be noted PG is 11-4 versus Booker in the regular season. But Booker and the Suns beat them in 2021, beat them this season too. PG didn't play. Book average 33.7. But on that same live stream, PG also made this proclamation. I'm on my bully shit. Hey, chat, mark my words. I'm on my bully shit next season.

There's a new Call of Duty coming out. Bully shit. Bully shit Call of Duty? I don't know. Oh, it's the video game board. Wait, the basketball. He's talking about basketball. Oh.

I say that a little bit. Video game board wait the basketball. He's talking about basketball. Oh Difference between Your regular game and bully shit like what's the difference just the way it's just how you play Like what like go to hell ball where you don't pass it or something. Nah, just more of aggressive style tacking more Why wouldn't you like he's like it's bully style right there So what question why would you always just be on your boat? Yeah, why wouldn't you be like this? There's misconception with Paul George I Don't think we realize

How handicapped his summers were summers were right? You remember he had shoulder surgery at shirt of surgery now if you're taking shoulder surgery, right? You're not actually working on your game. And he's coming to the season, so you're going into a season. He's went into summers where he actually didn't get to work out for lots of summers. Like two, three, four summers in a row where he didn't really get to actually work on his game. So, you know, this might be his first healthy summer where he gets to actually tap into, you know, getting better. Like, for the most part, like him and Kawhi, like, you know, you're spending your summer rehabbing versus getting better.

So he might be on some different shit. We can't put it past him. Like, you know, when we thought about, like, yo, he's having a bad year. And we think, like, wait, hold on. He just had to To shoulder surgeries, when did he get the workout? Those are those are all summer injuries. I Think his bully shit that he referring to is getting back to number 24 We need the Pacers. I think that was PG

Because he was he was at UCLA I remember that summer 2012 2013 before he got the extension well you know he used to be on real bully shit like going at niggas you know I'm saying that was the series when he dunked on Birdman that was aggressive people I'm saying so I think that he trying to get back to that mentality where it don't matter who in my way I'm at you you know I'm saying I'm trying to prove something now, you know what I'm saying? But I think it might be a little too late. So I was going to say, can he have this bully mentality

at this stage of his career? How old is he? You saying it's too late? I think so. Oh, come on, man, he good. He going to be on that rah-rah. But, you know, when you have a lot of surgeries, it adds, you know, years to your body. No, you got a lot of surgeries it adds, you know years to your body

No, you got a lot of other players on your team that we don't get the ball and knees It's team ball now at this point in your career It ain't no like your bullish is gonna come in spurts and moments But it ain't gonna be enough where you can really like take over the game on bully shit So it's gonna have to happen against like a book like when I match up with book. I'm on my bully shit. So it's going to have to happen against like a book. Like when I match up with book, I'm on my bully shit. Well, I mean, he played 56 games last season, averaged 24, 6, and 5. How many free

throws? Free throws... 5.3 attempts a game, which is pretty in line. Yeah, that's horrible. So like, let's say he averages 24, but he's averaging 10 free throws a game. He's on his bully shit. Absolutely. Is that what that means? Yeah. Drawing fouls, going to the club. Drawing fouls, getting to that basket, just being aggressive, not settling.

Yep, because he settles a lot of jumpers. Imagine getting hyped to be on your bully shit, and then they sign James Harden. It's about how you play the game. It's not about averaging 37. But it's one ball. I just want to see who gets to be on their bully shit the most. That's what I said. Bully shit is like Westbrook. When he plays, he's on their bully shit the most. That's what I said, bully shit.

That's what I said, bully shit is like Westbrook. When he plays, he's on his bully shit. All the time. Well, Westbrook isn't going to command the amount of shots that he would want. You know what I'm saying? If it's 10 shots and I attack the basket all 10 shots, I'm posting up.

OK, so whatever you get is. Like, I'm sitting here like bullying in the basket. I'm like Greek the Freak is on his bully shit. So bullying is only to the basket? It's not jumpers? It's not? No. You're not settling. I'm an ultra-aggressive. I'm not settling for nothing. I'm just going. I'm taking.

I'm straight-lining. I'm bullying. I'm in the post. Yeah. Okay. Like when Westbrook be like, you too little. I'm on my baby shit. So, we hear a lot of, when you think about Brandon Miller, I want to say Kyan Anthony, too, but a lot of these younger generation that look at PG as their goat.

And when they initially said it, people kind of, you know, they felt some type of way about it. Obviously, one of the usual suspects, Kobe, MJ, LeBron, whatever it may be. So, in your opinion, Gil, why do young hoopers idolize PG's game so much? The style. You know, it's that laid back, so in your opinion Gil why do young hoopers idolize PG's game so much the style you know it's that laid back that laid back

slick style right you don't you know Tracy McGrady had it too but it's that that nonchalant

you know the way they played it doesn't look like it's not serious it doesn't it doesn't look like they're getting riled up you know

so you know when you look at those those kids games you Yeah, it doesn't look like they're getting riled up. It's not crazy. Yeah. So when you look at those kids' games, you will see it. It's like a laid back style, that Nick Young style. Yeah. Smooth. We call it smooth. Smooth as fuck.

And PG always had the smooth game. Oh shit. Just silky smooth. And Brandon Miller played just like that. Kaiyan played just like that. But I think Kion got a lot of... He got a lot of his daddy. You can see his daddy in him. All day. I remember LeBron and PG dappin' during the playoffs back in the day when he was with the Pacers. And it kind of felt like a symbolic moment. Obviously PG's been hurt a lot beyond that.

So you almost not wonder what was because he's bounced back nicely. But PG without those injuries You know different and even to say still Killing right big like he looked like he was gonna be that next dude So you can understand a lot why guys would rock with him especially in that generation. That's when they were Coming up. That's what they saw but good. We got to switch a little bit So we asked the chat if it's okay for men to cry.

We got a thousand votes. How do you think it went? We got men in there, so they said no. What's the culture now? We got men in there, so they said no. They wearing handbags. They said no. They wearing handbags.

Real men cry. They wearing handbags. Real men cry. 76% of the chat said no. Said it's okay. Real men cry. They wearing handbags. Real men cry. 76% of the chat said no. Said it's OK for men to cry. See? They wearing it. What y'all cry?

Real men cry. What the fuck is y'all clapping for? Real men cry. Real men cry. It's OK. About what? Yeah. What the fuck?

Somebody might have died. You know, anything. You can cry. No. Arizona lost a dude. No. You shed a tear or two. That's a cry. No, it's not. That is. You know, anything. You can cry. You know? No. You shed a tear or two. That's a cry.

No, it's not. That is. Crying is crying. No. Crying is crying. Any liquid caused by emotions in your eye is crying. How did you word that? Hell no. We asked the chat if it's okay for men to cry.

That's it. And they said, yeah, it is. 70%? What about what Ricky got in Boys in the Hood? We didn't cry. We hopped in And they said, yeah, it is. What about 70%? What about what Ricky got in Boys in the Hood? We didn't cry. We hopped in the ride. I can't believe y'all. What you talking about?

We got in the whip. Hardball. Hardball. A little baby. A little baby Jean Hardball. I hope you don't be teaching your son to cry. That was traumatic.

Macaulay Culkin and my girl when he goes to see if he got the ring. Traumatic. No. You know, sometimes you have to let it out. No, sometimes you don't you cry

Okay, you you cry let your teammates see what's up? Happy to you know what the worst thing to be called an NBA what a mama's boy. Mm-hmm. Why? Could you soft as you saw? Oh Means you was cuddled. That's the worst thing? That's the worst thing to be called as a you are a mama's boy. Come over here and cry on my shoulder, boy. You gonna call your mama your mama?

That's because you guys don't know how to you don't have emotional intelligence. We had men as fathers. We had real men as fathers. Well, real men cry as you can see in the chat. Real men cry. No, them ain't real men in the chat. Them niggas are soft. You soft ass niggas in here in the chat.

Talking about some. Yeah, so you niggas is soft. No wonder you niggas be hating so hard. Because only women be in there hating. Women are, women are haters. They hate on each other. They hate on other men. But men are supposed to congratulate.

Don't be a hate. Congratulate. You know what I'm saying? Kobe ain't crying. We definitely ain't crying. Mike ain't crying. Even though he did a couple times. Mike has cried.

Mike was a little mama boy, though. Mike was a mama boy. Mike has cried. Mike was a mama boy. Quite a few times, actually. On camera. Yeah, he got a whole meme of crying. Yeah, that's why I don't fuck with Mike like that.

That wasn't like that. But that wasn't the same kind of crying. That's why I don't fuck with Mike. Like I wasn't like that was a but that wasn't Losing it's still crying. It's still crying. No, I said is it okay to cry happy to you cry in the NBA? You cry if you get a bag. Can you cry happy tears? Tears yeah Can you cry happy tears? God, niggas. Straight face. Can you cry happy tears? Yeah. Hold your chin up. Nope. Oh, we supposed, it's expected.

It's expected. When you give birth, when you get a child, when your baby comes out, you didn't shed any type of tear at all? No. So, Gil, Elijah- Shed a tear for a baby coming? Elijah in the NBA, he wins MVP, He says you the real MVP during his speech. You not crying?

My nigga. My nigga. My nigga, what's up? That's what I'm talking about. My nigga. Yeah. That's what we on. Boy, you better not cry.

I don't believe either one of you guys. Boy, you better not cry. Boy, you better not cry. You've never cried. Almost cried one night. My knee was hurting from surgery. You've never cried? It was hurting a little bit. Okay, so then yes.. You've never cried. Almost cried one night like my knee was hurting from surgery. You've never cried? Like it was hurting a little bit.

Okay, so then yes. No, I said almost. And you've cried. You already admit it. Say what? You already admit that you've cried. No, I didn't. You just did.

You said tears came down your eyes. No, I said you can shit. I didn't say I shed a tear. You did. No, I did not. Don't be putting words in niggas' mouth. I ain't never said no shit like that ever. Because if he said he cried, he's soft.

Nigga, you soft. No, but you better not cry around me. i ain't losing to no three-point shooter he'll cry baby come on man no i'm serious you guys are foolish i'm serious in the locker room as any nba player the one thing you don't want to be called is a mama can you cry in the shower when the water with your head down what you crying for because we lost the question what you's the question. What you crying for? What if I tricked her back on? What do you cry for? What is the purpose of this cry? Even when women crying, I'm like yo what did you crying for? That's my girl. Probably some bullshit you did.

You missed four shots you wanna cry. What you crying for? Cause it's hard. We missed shots. They don't wanna work out with me cause I don't do crying. Man we don't do none of that. I don't do stomach hurting. I don't do none of that. I didn't wake up at five in the don't do none of that. I don't do stomach hurting. I don't do none of that. If you're going to do all that, stay home. I didn't wake up at 5 in the morning for you to say your stomach hurts. My stomach hurts. If I'm working out with you and you start tearing up and crying because it's too hard, I'm out.

I'm out. I'm out. You soft. Can't do it. Can't do it. You ain't built for this. S-O-F-T. Man.

Soft. With a capital T. I'm asking some NBA players. Don't be soft. I'm asking some NBA players. Keep talking. If it's okay to cry, they only raised by their mama. No, I said what's the worst thing you could be called in the NBA locker room?

That's the question. It's going to be the B word. Broke. Mama's boy. It's going to be something feminine. Trust me. For sure. What do they call you, bro? P-U. Puss-ass. Puss-ass. Broke mama's boy. There's gonna be something feminine trust me for sure Okay, you'll be something so we got it we got a question from the chat

OnlyFans the underdog username See, they put it in there. Oh, look at that. They put it in there. Y'all look like you're trying to trick me. They were the only fans when she started stealing dudes out the damn crowd. Y'all know I'm Rob Burgundy. But what does that mean? Yeah, that means let a nigga warm up. Oh, let a nigga warm up. Okay, I like that. I like that. I like that. I own up to that. I like that.

Don't be canceled. Don't be canceled. So who will have the better season this year? Klay, Booker, or PG? I feel like it's Klay, Booker, or PG. What do you mean by season? Is it statistical? Just them statistical, not team not team statistical? Oh

That's a good question cuz it is because it load teams are loaded up PG PG You think with Westbrook running? I don't point on that Harden comes on the team. You won't think so because because I'm one one because clay might not, I mean, not Klay, but Kawhi might not play as many games, so he'll have that edge. Klay's going to average 19 to 21. I think Klay's due for one. 19 to 21, that's all he's going to give you.

I think he has a higher clip this year. For the first time in history? For the first time. I got one response. For the first time, this is going to be Klay's breakout like I've been waiting for this year. I got one response so far, and it's B-A-N or vagina. B-A-N. B-A-N.

B-A-N. N-word. Yep. Or the vagina. Uh-huh. I told you. Hey, boy, are you allowed to cry? What? Are you allowed to cry? No. Yep. Or the vagina. Uh-huh. I told you. Hey, boy, are you allowed to cry? Are you allowed to cry?

No. No. No. No. He said it like, no. You can cry. Like, who cry? You can cry.

Girls cry, right? Yeah. No, you can cry. It's okay. It's okay. He can cry. I'm telling you, this show quickly took a turn. Raised by Ben.

You know what? Even his granddaddy be like, who you crying? And he be in the game, too. Don't be crying out here. For real. There's a rumor circulating in the chat right now. I can't verify, but you hear you the man to answer it, that you cried when you and C-1 did that in 2003.

Never. Why you wooing? What does all that say and what is all that see what is all that see Well first thing I did was take my jersey off and raise that shit up in them. I'm out of here. Okay Second thing happened was I'm gonna everybody's cheering First thing I said was I can't believe this motherfucker wasn't playing me at the end of the game Where the fuck would I be tearing up? 14 I have 14 points in the first half Jay-z and Beyonce are there to see me and you cry no I'm pissed you cry cuz I'm both have 30 and when MVP

Hmm, and you didn't cry That don't sound like he cried. What the fuck? I'll pick. First thing that happened when we won and we got to the locker room, they all at my locker. Try, what are you going to do? I'm out of here. Going to the draft.

First question, first answer. I can't wait to leave. We'll be partying that. We'll be partying that. When did the Becky come into play? Becky was waiting. Becky was waiting. But look, it ended up because Lil Wayne was at

the game. We ended up partying with Lil Wayne after the game. Really? Yeah. Ain't no tears. Where was that baby at? It was in St. Louis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was in the loop. It was in the loop. Was he crying? Crying. Come on, man. It was in the loop. Was he crying?

Crying. Come on, man. You were at the game. You could ask my teammates, was I that type of nigga? Was I that type? The little Wayne turn up after the game. Basketball. NBA.

Who'd y'all beat in that game? Illinois. Okay. Oh, was that the crew? Yeah, okay. Oh that the uh, that was that crew. Yeah Listen man, I don't come from pops We talking now pops they My pops and Gilbert pops will be best friends 100% tough guys. We don't man. Don't teach that shit. I ain't never been raised on no

Nigga, you get punched in that shit. I ain't never been raised on no, nigga, you get punched in your chest, you better get up. Gil, Gil, would you cry if your dad named you Hippolyta? Facts.

See? But he didn't. We would've been cooking your ass. You can't cook named Hippolyta or Renus. I don't know. What's funny is

the boys is the crybaby, to be honest. Yep. Just, cause they be getting, they be getting whooped by the girls. Girls are stronger. It's okay to shed a thug tear. By far.

Yeah. And we got that ready? We got that video. We got it ready? Ooh, we got a video. The center has my kids crying. Nah. So we got a little breaking news coming from the Daily Mail.

The Lakers are unveiling Kobe statue on August 8th, 2024. Statue will reportedly feature both numbers 8 and 24 as well as Kobe's daughter Gigi. So it's going to be two statues? Might as well give him three. Yeah, they got to have two statues. They got to have one with the 8 with the little fro. That's they gotta have two statues. They gotta have one with the eight with the little fro. That's iconic.

Fro is iconic. Another answer came in. A snake. That means he messed with a teammate's girlfriend. We good. He messed with me. I'm just saying.

You gotta excuse. Everybody's answering. You gotta ask it a certain way. Okay, I just typed. From another player What is the worst thing to be called? I said by your teammates another player Don't play that shit. Well, yeah, we get three back to get some smoke for 824 that's so perfect.

Yeah. Isn't that Kobe's date? Yeah, yeah. His birthday is 8-24. Yeah, his birthday is 8-24, right? Or the 23rd or 24th. But that's legendary. Right.

You said 8-23? But Kobe Day is 8-24. Yes. So L.A. need to show out from the 8th to the 24th. The 16 days of turn up. Yeah. 16 days of turn up. Let's get it cracky.

Let's throw in that championship parade that we were deprived of for the hardest championship in NBA history. And that's crazy how we still don't have a parade. Like, they still ain't, like, try to make that. Because they all know it was some bullshit. COVID, man. Jeannie said, fuck that $30 billion for the parade. We ain't giving that to Caruso. You think we're giving that for a parade?

Fuck Robert Trump. Y'all better fuck it. And I guess it's too late now because the team's been dispersed and nobody's coming back. I'm not coming back. If I won a championship, I'm not coming back for no parade. I got better shit to do now. If COVID was still relevant,

like, you know, it was just fake shit so y'all can give LeBron a chip. It wasn't even the real. Come on, man, y'all stop with this shit. How's it not a real? Stop, stop. First of all, we- Where is it at now?

The Lakers was balling before COVID hit. What are you talking about? It was the flu. We was killing before the COVID. COVID are you talking about? It was the flu. We was killing before the COVID stopped what we was doing. What are you talking about? Man, listen. Bubble. Bubble boys.

I bet if your team won it, you... That was the hardest. It is the hardest because Lakers don't have no home court advantage. They got to go to Orlando, be locked up in Disneyland prison. Bubble boys. Stay in regular size hotel room.

Everyone's equal. Everybody's not equal. In the bubble, everyone was equal. No. Yes, they were. Did you hear the rules in it? No. Both teams get cheered. There's no booing.

I want to hear none. So no one's getting booed. Everyone's getting cheered. The referees put a rule in that they can't say, ref, you suck. So everyone is happy. So there's no coming to LA being booed. So that was the best chance the Clippers got to beat the Lakers because they both get cheered. There's no overtake on the crowd.

So everyone was getting cheered. I think it was all equal. It was equal. That's what I'm saying. Everybody was there. It wasn't any special. You know what I mean? Everybody was there. Lakers don't have no home court advantage, so they can't overtake your crowd.

The best thing that happened in the bubble was the Dame Lillard interview. You know what I came here for. You know what I came here for. I came here to whoop these niggas' ass. It was the only thing that was good about the whole thing. Everything else was LeBron, wine, weed, J.R. Smith. Smith and them saying hey man. We got the best sweet on the island monkey we Chilling playing video games killing tough life chillin vets gonna win that vets was gonna win the bubble

Never had the strong whoever had the stronger. Whoever had the most they whoever had the strongest vets. Whoever had the most vets. Whoever cried the least. Whoever cried. Whoever had the, whoever cried. The Browns go in, they got Ben Porter for this. They got the vets, they already had the most vets, they had everybody they needed, bro.

But let's talk a little bit about that, that Kobe statue. What does that mean to you guys to hear the Lakers finally have a date on it? Obviously we knew Kobe's statue was long overdue, but to be able to see that statue in front of Staples, I'm going to ask you guys this. We already know, you know, you talk about men don't cry. I know everybody on

this couch cried when they found out Kobe passed away, but are you going to cry when you see that statue in front of Staples Center, Gil? Even inside, not let a tear come to your face. Did you cry when Kobe passed, Gil? You don't hear me? It's okay, Gil, you cried. Did you cry when Kobe passed?

You didn't? Nothing. No water came out of your eye. It hurt. Wow. Okay. I did. We got some tough Negroes on this show. My man. Kobe's my man. It wasn't just about him. It was also about his daughter being with him. That was sad.

Tragedies happen, man. Now we got this statue to honor his legacy. also about his daughter being with him. That was sad. Tragedies happen, man. Now we got this statue to honor his legacy. Yeah, it's going to be wild to see that, man. That's going to be emotional. Let's just keep it real. I know y'all are tough. I'm probably going to have a thugs here or two. But shout out to Jeannie and the Lakers for finally

getting that done. We need to do a Gills Arena. We won't be able to get two staples because you know they be acting like haters but we could get... Who can't get the staples? Can we shoot at that staples? Flex your muscle. Is it outside staples? Yeah, I'm sure it'll be outside in that little courtyard but we can go to like the JW Marriott or the courtyard. LA Live?

Yeah, LA Live. You know, get some action. Go to Fixins. Or they just rent it out now. Just bring up the arena. Hey, I just ran out ran out just Just something for the day because they're not they're not paying attention right now The lobby like anything that's close to it any stores you rent it out for an event that whole day do Kassouya Yeah, you baller. Yeah, get us a spicy tuna rolls And whoever, man, they be tagging me on this video of this person at McDonald's,

I don't appreciate this shit. I'm just sharing with y'all. It's not you? No, it's not me. You sure? They do have a toe face, thumb face like me. I had to, but y'all are assholes.

A lot of mean-spirited people on this planet. You don't be at McDonald's? We're just humorous. Somebody at a McDonald's bitching about getting the order wrong or something, which is something I would do, but that's not me. I'm getting sexy, guys. I'm slimming down. You've bullied me to greatness. Y'all PG. Y'all bully shit. Bullying does work. But let's talk about something that happened last

week. On the show, you said you talked with Ty Lue, and he said that the Clippers finally have a leader in Russell Westbrook. Naturally, some people took this as a slight to Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. But when you look around the league, the star players on teams aren't necessarily always the leader. You look at the Nuggets, Jokic, generational performer, generational player. But we had Thomas Bryant on this couch yesterday, and he said he saw him get mad one time, you know, in terms of just being vocal. So it's not always necessarily the star player that's the leader. So, but I want to ask you guys, is it a star player's responsibility to be the team leader?

Responsibility? I mean, you would like as a team, as a coach, as an organization, for your best player to be the vocal leader and the example leader. But it doesn't always happen like that. Right? Yeah. It just doesn't. Sometimes your most talented player

is just your most talented player. And there's a player on there that engages him to make him be accountable for games that's up and down. So it's not always the best player on the court. I know the fans will like that, but it's not. It's assumed. But there's other ways to lead. Also, you don't have to lead with words.

You can lead with actions. You can lead with off-the-court things. Some of these guys need leaders that show them things off the court too. I remember one of the, what was his name? Shoot, James Posey. And I heard a lot of players talking about him late in his career, how he was the leader, and it had nothing to do with game. He wasn't even playing, he wasn't getting minutes,

but he was the leader of the team, and he did so many other things that had nothing to do with play, and he was the leader and it had nothing to do with game. He wasn't even playing. He wasn't getting minutes, but he was the leader of the team and he did so many other things that had nothing to do with play and he was the leader. So there's different ways you can lead and you have more than one leader, you know? So Rashad, you came into the league with KG. Would you say he was the leader of those Timberwood squads and what made him such a good leader in your opinion? The best player, being the best player. The best player don't got to be the vocal best player the best player don't got to be the vocalist the best player don't got to do anything but lead it's the part of the word leadership lead right so there are vocalists on teams trey ma is a vocalist james posey was a vocalist udonis has them vocal every certain people are vocal does it mean that you're the leader because

it's hard to to follow someone that's sitting next to you on the bench? Right? Or a guy that's in foul trouble constantly. It's like I always feel like a guy like Steph is the leader. He don't got to say nothing on the bench. He ain't got to say nothing in the game. But when he comes to the bench and he do say something, it's like our leader has spoken. Our leader has spoken. Our leader has spoken. And so even with Westbrook being considered the leader,

I would say on that team, a lot of people would say that he's not the best player. I would say he is the best player. He's the best player on that team. Westbrook is the best player on that team because everything he does around every aspect of the game is better than everyone else. He may not score as much as a higher rate as Kawhi and PG because that's not his job anymore. But he's already proven that he can do those things. He's the best. Say what? You said he's the best at everything, but not scoring.

Rebounding. So not everything. And he can't. I said it's not his job to be the best scorer. So he's not the best. He can be the best. He's not. So if I could finish my point and stop being interrupted around my point,

Westbrook has proven that he can be the best scorer, the best rebounder, and the best assist man in the league. So now that his role has been reduced, it doesn't mean that he's still not the best on that team, which is why they consider him the leader. It's because he doesn't have to be vocal. He leads by example. He shows up.

He's going to lead the team. I'm going to play hard every night. I'm going to play the right way. I'll follow my lead. I disagree. And I also disagree with you saying people that are just vocal or just vocal, those are also leaders. You're saying you can't lead with a man sitting next to you. Yes, you can. There's people on that bench that need somebody like him to say, hey, I was where you were.

This is what you're going to do. This is how you're going to get off that bench. This is what you need to do while you're on that bench. This is how you become a great teammate. This is how you keep your nose clean. This is how you make sure you get rest at night. So if your number is called, then you're going to be ready. Like that's leading also. You don't have to lead with play. That's vocal. No, it's still leading.

You said say. It's still leading. You said say though. It's still leading. But you're vocalizing. Yeah. Which means that you're being vocal about whatever the vision is so you if you're on this bench with me you're on you're being a mentor so then they're vocalized so then

what you said about westbrook he's not scoring all the points he's not leading in those categories i'm saying so then he's not a leader then you said whoever's doing it no i said who the best player is the best player he is no he's not not right player is. The best player leads. Yeah, he's not the best player. He is. No, he's not. Not right now. Yes, he is. No, he's not.

Yeah, he is. No, he's not. By what? By history. History? Yes. So then Jordan's the best player of, was always the best player on his teams then, right?

Was he the best player when he was with the Wizards? No. What? What basketball games are you watching? I'm just saying. What are you talking about? If you're not in your prime and you're not the best player on the team, then you can't be a leader. History will prove that you are.

No. Yes, it is. Then that doesn't make any sense. It don't got to make sense when we're in the locker room. Listen. If someone's on the bench. Here's the difference. If someone's on the bench.

When you've played. When you've played. Not doing anything. When you've played at this level. Oh, so when you've played at when you play anything when you played at this level Oh, so when you played it when you played at this level, okay, so I can't there is an understanding Okay, so I don't know who the leaders are Who the vocalists are? Who the best players are I played a professional when the best players are not talking professional basketball and the best players are not talking

You still know who the best player is When he comes over and he says hey, give me the motherfucking ball. Move the fuck out the way. Got it. Got it. But then you got the vocalists who may not play as much. Like Calvin Boo for Greg Buckner, which I'm talking about my team. Guys who on the bench talking, vocalizing. That's still you.

We know he's just being the vocal guy. He's not the leader of the team. I didn't say the leader of the team. I said he is a leader. There's more than one leader. He's not the leader. We're not talking about a leader. We're talking about the leader.

There's more than one leader. There's more than one way to lead your team. Like, why is that even a debate? It's not. It is. You're debating it. No, you're debating. You are.

I know what it is. I know what it is. How? And your opinion is not higher value than mine. Why is it not? Because I'm giving examples. No, I played. I played too.

Where? Overseas. Okay, so we're not talking about overseas basketball right now. We're talking about NBA basketball. We're talking about basketball. We're talking about the National Basketball Association. You're not going to use that. You're not going to use just because you was in the NBA. What you mean? That's what we're talking about. I don't have an opinion. I don't have an opinion. This is a fact. This is an opinion. Because I played because you play in the NBA fans have Me go the same amount and we didn't play the same out of anything. Yes, we did You have an opinion because you've never done it. Yes. I have I have a Leader no, I have for all my team multiple years multiple. Have you huh? Huh?

I've won have you won and cut in the pros? I don't have to. Exactly, because you wasn't the leader. What? You wasn't. What does that have to do with? You wasn't able to do what I did. What did you do? You wasn't able to do what I did. What did you do?

I had more points than you. I led my teams. You had more? As a pro, yes. As a pro? I was the star on my teams. What WNBA team did you play on? Every single team I played on as a professional, I was the leading scorer.

Where did you go to college? Cal State LA. Where? college? Cal State LA. Where? Yes, Cal State LA. Where is that? Here in LA. What is that? It's a Division II school.

Okay, okay. Division II. What WNBA team did you play for? None. Okay. So, you're comparing your opinion to my perspective. I'm comparing my perspective. Your opinion.

My perspective. You're comparing your opinion. I played professional My perspective. You're comparing your opinion. You're talking about your opinion on the game. I played professional basketball. Where? It doesn't matter. It does. Why?

Why does it matter? Because the pros are the pros. The pros are the pros, yes. So you never played in the pros. I did. Where? You never played in the WNBA. So what? There's a lot of people that didn't play in the WNBA that were great.

What do you mean? There's a lot of players that didn't play in the WNBA. But you're trying to tell me I'm wrong about my professional perspective. I'm telling you a fact. There's more than one way to lead. No. You know your offense is up in the WNBA. Give me a snack. It's fine. Continue, man. Go to the next joint. I'm sick of that shit.

Go ahead, man. Go to the next joint. Gil does it too. You guys try to diminish my opinion. No way. No, I play in the NBA I'm sitting on this couch for a reason what reason is couch for a reason what reason? I only I diminish you because you use a girl I just say you're a girl. That's it. That is No, we ain't finished yeah, we do I'm done Couldn't play the NBA. I got titties. I couldn't play in the NBA. I'm done Okay, I'm doing. I'm done. My point has been proven.

Who's winning this argument? They put a poll up. You put a poll up? Thank you. That's what we need to do. Put a poll up. He's going to disagree if it doesn't go with his opinion. No more beef, guys. Alright? Ain't no beef. This is just letting him know that I'm here.

And I'm not going nowhere. And I'm going to say my opinion. And you ain't going to agree with it, but that's okay. Just like you was wrong yesterday about the football shit. I ain't wrong about nothing. I'm better at covering football than you as well. I'm better at covering football than you as well. I know more about it, and I never play it.

No, you don't. And I never play a down of football. And I never play you don't on the football and I know more about Football than you as well. That's like Stephen a Smith. Thank you knowing more about it than us I'm not Stephen a Smith. I'll go let's get her back back on track What are the qualities of a great leader in the NBA locker room. I can't stand you. Finish your Doritos. Yo! Yo, this shit is hilarious. Finish your Doritos. Just the fact that we just had a conversation

is a waste of my energy, man. And why is it a waste of your energy? What the fuck was that? Why is it a waste of your energy? Like, what is it? Golly. You don't think I belong on this side? Oh, my gosh.

Frito later said, that's some snacks, perhaps. Hey, Dorito. Hey, see, Dorito. What did Jazz say? What did Jazz say? This comes great. There comes great with shit like this going on. Okay? Top four show. We need more sponsors.

Oh my God. This is crazy. Use promo code GILZARINA. We're going to start doing pick-ems on the show too. It's an NBA show, right? Sports show. I never played in the NBA. We already know that. So why is that even a part of the discussion? I don't think the chat knows that yeah, they do now. They do know that so they're like there's more. They know that they know me

They know me What does it say? There's no winners or losers So Mikko currently at 62%. Rashad is already antagonizing that. Thank you. Thank you. He called us off.

I don't give a fuck about that. Who cares? I'm right. We know this. We know this. I'm right. I'm just telling you. You can't ask me.

These are the same 72% of niggas that said that crying is okay. Okay. Okay. These are the same 72% of niggas that said that crying is okay. Okay. Okay. These are the same 72% of the time. It's the off-season, ladies and gentlemen. Crying is okay. It's the same guy that's talking about who a leader of a team is.

It's a guy that's the best and has never been the best player on his professional team. Who has never been the best player? You. You. Never. On no NBA team have you been

the best player on the roster. Not once. I've been the second best. Not once. Second best. I've been every single year But you never played a moment. I was playing never played from the moment I picked up a ball in you know, okay always a little play on every team

Okay, so I was the best player on every single team. I played on no you were a exactly except What we talked about so you never played in the WNBA? So what are you even talking about? You never made you never made it to the biggest league listen What are you even talking about? You never was that you never made it? So you never could have been the best player in it that you don't make you never even made it I so what are you even talking about? I don't Know what overseas so I made way more money. So what more time and I what are you talking about? I think y'all should just go on a date. Oh, what?

I'm just gonna date talk to them Your word is not my word What you asking me for a date what you're talking about We're gonna call timeout who's working my? Who's working mine? Who's working mine? Exactly. You gonna be putting it on me, bro. Nigga, what you talking about? He don't even like black.

He don't even like black pussy. Hey! This is a date. Let's keep this shit moving and shaking. Put it on chat. Come on, man. Let's chat a shot. This leadership, please. We're talking about... I need you to be the leader of the... I'm the example.

I got the retos. This is the shit I be talking about. Y'all niggas just sit back. Please. They can sit school. It is cool. I'm trying to interject. I'm trying to interject.

Nobody's going to defend you when you disrespect. I'm trying to interject. Let's keep this shit moving. Nobody's going to defend you when you disrespect. My nigga. All right, move on. Move on. Nobody's going to defend you when you disrespect. Nobody's trying to interject. I'm trying to interject. Let's keep this shit moving. My nigga. Alright, move on. Move on.

Move on. Let's move on. What he told y'all about it? Move on. Let's move on. How about the Knicks? Everybody like the Knicks? We got 8,000 in the arena right now. Whatever. Move on. I won again. Let's talk about... Everybody like the Knicks We got 8,000 in the arena right now move on I Won again, let's talk about

Wait, first of all one is easy. See no deal. That's the first vote. That was the second one the crying one Keep up, but we also question that was this chat and their toughness Whatever I'm just saying look it's gonna be like 80% they gonna be under dollars gonna pay for Are you gonna do this promo code gills are in it you got an extra hundred dollars Have you a snow bunny with you Nobody outfit, let's keep this thing. Let's keep this thing Center centered on basketball in the conversation at hand I'm a shoe girl. Don't acknowledge you Doritos you finished you finish

But doing your opinion gills arena summer's more important, being a vocal leader or a leader? Oh, we going back to the leadership? That's all we got? No. Let's go to it. No, I'm not going, no. We're going to go to something different. I'm not in this.

I can't believe y'all. I'm not in this. Let's go to another one. I'm, I'm, I'm throwing back. What are we? What are you throwing back? Go to another one. Go on to another question. I'm throwing back. Hey, we got the? Go on to another one. Go on to another question.

I'm throwing back. Hey, we got the... Where are the mostly fans at? Where are the mostly fans at? I'm throwing back. I'm perplexed. We're talking about leadership, but we're going to change the topic up a little bit.

So we just announced that Kobe's getting a statue of Vel. So let's take it back to the Lakers. I don't know what. It's summer vibes. It's the off season, ladies and gentlemen. We have to keep y'all entertained. I just know now

that since I didn't play in the Lakers, we are all friends on this show. ...that are of NBA. Got it. We were all turnt up at the Tacoma Courtyard Marriott downtown

during the Eritrean Festival. Y'all couldn't leave the hotel because she was too turnt up. We banded together. But let's talk about the Lakers during the Kobe and Shaq era. So beginning of that era, obviously Shaq is the leader of that team, right?

Kobe now catches up, starts to have issues with Shaq's work ethic and all that different type of stuff going on. So how hard is it for a leader to relinquish that role to another player on the team? Gil, bird arenas. Yeah, talk.

Talk. I was, as soon as you started talking about leadership, I faded back out of one of my Doritos. All right, can you ask it again? All right, I'll come back. I'll come back. Ask it again. So we're talking about the Kobe and Shaq era Lakers, right?

So Shaq kind of looked at Kobe as little bro. Mm-hmm You know got him a very early on in his career Kobe eventually took on a leadership role became just as essential to that team You could argue a Shaq But how hard is it for somebody like Shaq in that leader position to relinquish that role to somebody else on the team? I mean you can't you can't relinquish it. Someone has to earn it. Yeah, but I'm saying if Kobe's now stepping up, can you have multiple leaders on a team?

You can have multiple leaders, but it's who's following who, right? Yeah, that's the point. And a team like that, that team was divided. Even trainers were divided on who was going. Like, if this is real shit, the trainer who worked on Shaq couldn't work on Kobe and Kobe's trainer and medical part couldn't work on Shaq because that's the way those two was working like if you go and touch him you can't touch me right and that's really how was divided so it's like when

Kobe got his when Kobe felt that he was in power We seen what his power did get rid of him. And if you get rid of him take him with you right Leadership is basically who who who who can follow who has the path to the promised land Right. It's not necessarily the strongest, the loudest. It's who's smart enough to get the team to where they're supposed to get. Who has the IQ to lead men?

Who's basically technically the smartest strategic person on the team is usually who the leader is. And that's just, you know, so you usually who the leader is And that's just you know So you can be the lip I can be the leader one year and a better a better fit comes in and Everyone's gravitating to him. That's just but from my ego standpoint Are you gonna be willing to give that up if you feel like you should be that leader? There's nothing give it up It's not give it a taken There's nothing you can do like, you know kg was the leader one year until Sam Cassell got there.

Paul Pierce was the leader of Boston until KG got there, right? Ray Allen was a leader where he was. They all came together and then out of the three, one decided, hey, I am the vocal leader. We're going through, you know, he's the main guy that that we're gonna go through, but I'm the one who's leading I'm the one who's you have a defensive leader you have offensive leader You know like a football you have you know you have the quarterback And then you have someone on defensive end that's that's leading right so it just depends on the makeup of the team So we're shall you play for KG. What made KG special in terms of leadership?

We see the videos, him cussing dudes out, yelling, and that can have an impact on dudes. We've seen it with CP3, other guys. Some guys can't handle that. They can't deal with that. So, playing with a guy like KG, how long did it take you, or take you for him to earn your respect

and just that respect that the team was at? Instant walking in there, you knew right away, this is Tigg this is take his team we're gonna do whatever the fuck he says a 1000 because i was a leader on my team when we won the championship so i knew exactly what it was to follow a leader he was the best player the best player don't got to be vocal he led by example in all the practices the energy he he brought, attention to detail. Like you said, being the smartest player, knowing the schemes, knowing the operation of the whole organization, but not having to actually go and say all this shit and waste energy on, you know, telling guys what to do. Follow my lead. Fall in line. Be the guy. Right.

And he taught me all of the steps it took to be the leader on that level. So when he left, I became the team captain, and I was next to Al Jefferson, who came in as our best player, but he wasn't the vocal guy, right? So he led by example, and it was up to me to be the vocal guy. So it was definitely that transfer of power, understanding how to play second tier, but also how to be the leader when you're out there on the floor and lead by example. That's something that KG always exhibited and that's why when he went to Boston,

I still believe it was still Paul Pierce being the leader, But he fell in line as the number two being the vocal. Really? Because he knew how to vocalize and be the anchor on the defensive end. And it didn't necessarily say that he was the leader of the team. He was the leader of the defense. He led the most important aspect of the Boston Celtics. Do you think Kevin Garnett would agree with you that a guy on the bench can't be a leader? Nobody has to agree with anything.

I'm asking you a question. I just answered it. Nobody has to agree with anything. I said, do you think. You know Kevin Garnett, right? No one has to agree with anything. Well, I can answer that. Yeah.

When I was in Golden State, when I wasn't playing, right, Mark Jackson was taking me to the gym every single day, you know, when I was depressed, getting me better. He was still hooping at that. Yeah, he was still hooping, but he was, like, going through a calf. He was calf strain, so he wasn't playing too, but he was working with me every single day, right? He wasn't playing, but in my eyes, I only listened to him.

I didn't listen to anyone else. He was leading you. So when I came into the game, even though Antoine, Larry, even though they was the guys, they couldn't tell me shit, right? Because you didn't earn my ear. Your ear.

Right? Even my second year there. Like, you didn't earn my ear for me, so I was rogue. Right? When Antoine won six men and Antoine came back when I got to Washington, that first year, you know, Stackhouse was the leader of the team, even though he wasn't there. You know, he was just the dude, the alpha, the dude of the team. That following year, Antoine came and Antoine took on the leadership. Him and Larry.

And Larry never said a word. Larry never said a word. But when he did talk, we listened. But he never said anything. So, like, I was never actually a leader of the team. Like, I was never yet in position, you know. You know, I'm looking at the older leader of the team. I was never yet in position. I'm looking at the older guys as the leaders. I'm just the best player.

I'm the face of this team. Thank you. I'm going to do what I do. You're going to tell these other players what to do. If it makes sense to me, I'll follow what you're saying. So if I'm shooting too much, I'll look. And if he'd be like, yo, pass the ball around, bet.

Are you arguing or are you just doing it? Just doing it. Because like I said, Larry and him wasn't going to say nothing to me unless it was the betterment for the team.

Because I did, I mean, what I'm saying is I worked my ass off. I was the example of working right But telling others what to do Wasn't you know, I didn't

That wasn't mine that wasn't mine that wasn't my strengths that was Larry Hughes and that was Antoine strengths to put them together I just played I just played basketball plus three Miko Why well I just played. I just played basketball. Plus three, Miko. What? You just said what I said. What? That there's a way to lead and not be the star player. There's also a way to lead, not to lead and be the star player. There's multiple people that can be leaders and it

doesn't always have to do with the talent. Yeah, okay. So like Allen Iverson, right? Eric Chenault was the leader of the team. Thank you. Thank you. I talked to AI. Plus three, Miko. I don't give a fuck. I'm just saying.

I mean, I don't know if that's your point. I was eating chips. That is my point. You just proved it, and it's okay. We can keep it moving. I knew I was right when I said it, and we can move on now. But, I mean, you talk about those teams, right? And then I never got a chip.

So even looking at your own experience do you ever regret not taking more of a leadership role as that star player? I don't I mean you know back then the league was older right you know I'm 25 years old right you know we're

young we you know we don't have right a 25 year old leader when you have 30, 32, 29, 29. That doesn't make sense, right? Like, they're going to follow my lead on how I play. Okay. But to tell someone to do something, no. They're going to do what? They're going to follow my lead on how I play.

Okay. But I'm telling you, I'm not the leader. Can I say something sure The leader doesn't choose Whether he's the leader or not We know that so regardless of how you feel about leading or being the leader You were the leader. He was a leader. You were the leader. I was even a captain with the leader. A leader. I wasn't even a captain. You were the leader. A leader. It's not about captains.

It's not about none of that. You're the face of the franchise. It is about that. It goes as you go. But that's not considered a leader. Thank you. To you. To the world.

To you. To anyone. To the world. No, no, because we can only speak from our own perspectives. Right? Yeah. Because we can only speak from our own perspectives, right? So for me, I disagree that the leader does not pick whether they're the leader or not. Nobody said that. So Eric Snow, people saying him being the leader, even AI saying Eric was the leader,

the team went as Allen Iverson went. The team goes as the best player goes. They lead by example. And if you don't carry the team, the team cannot go. But who as the best player goes. They lead by example. And if you don't carry the team, the team cannot go. But who's the best player following? It's not even about that. It is. No, it's not. Because if you're looking at Allen Iverson

as the leader, you're following Allen Iverson, but Allen Iverson's taking, listening to Eric Snow, then Eric Snow is actually the leader. You're just not looking at that. We're not talking about listening or vocalizing anything, Gilbert. I'm talking about leading by example. You showing up, your work ethic. You're just not looking at it. We're not talking about listening or vocalizing anything, Gilbert. I'm talking about leading by example. You showing up, your work ethic. You're just talking about

the best player. No, I'm talking about your work ethic. Yeah, but if you're... I'm talking about everything you put into the game has everything to do with leading by example. You don't have to say anything. Then that contradicts everything you said about Kevin Durant. Thank you. What did I say about Kevin Durant? We asked the question, bro. We contradicts everything you said about Kevin Durant.

Thank you. What did I say about Kevin Durant? We asked a question, bro. We know Kevin Durant wasn't a leader, but he's the hardest one. We never said he wasn't the leader, bro. Yes, you did. You said he was. We asked, who has he made better?

Oh, God. What I'm saying is, I work out three times a day. No one else did, so they wasn't following me. Listen, you're moving the goalposts. Wait, hold on. You've been in the NBA, right? What I'm saying is I work out three times a day. No one else did, so they wasn't following me. Well, listen. That's not your movement of thought. So wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. You've been in the NBA, right?

We've been in the NBA, right? So if your best player, like let's say Kobe, right? We'll take this Laker team. He's the best player. He leads by example. But if none of the kids are following him Right. They're not following him They're clubbing every night because they they're following someone else who's at the club who's at the strip club every single night

Who was technically the leader of that pack? Oh, how does that not make him the leader? Cuz no one's following them. No one's listening to him. So does that mean anyone on the team? You know, do we win without Kobe Bryant? It don't matter if no one's following them is he by your theory if no one's listening to him. They don't even want him on the team anymore. Do we win without Kobe Bryant? It don't matter. If no one's following him, is he... By your theory, if no one's... By my theory, I've already spoke on this. If you're not following me as a leader,

get they ass out of here and get me in guys who are going to follow our lead. You just... That's what happens. But then you're not a leader. If you have a crew that's there and they're not following you. That means they don't want to win. No, they just don't want to follow you. No, they just want to follow you.

You're not a leader. But if we're winning when people are following me, what does that say? Wait, wait, wait, hold on. That's not good enough. No, what I'm saying, if you have two men, if you have two men right here, and one has championship and one knows how to talk to his team, right? And you say, all right, 12 men, follow the one you want to follow. And everyone follows the dude who knows how to talk to them, and they don't follow the one with four championships.

Who's actually the leader of that group? So if Kobe won three championships, right, and then he comes in in he wants to win two more with the team that he has They have a decision to make they can follow him Because he's not he's now let he's led by example. He's won. He's won championships So these guys that are coming in have two options Follow me or don't follow me But if you don't follow me, we will not win because I need my other guys on this floor. I'm the leader I'm the leader. I'm the leader

You're saying but you're calling yourself a leader, but no one's following you. So how are you? So how are we gonna win? It's not about how am I the leader if they're decided then everyone's a leader Everyone's up there that means if I have a group and I say I'm the leader I'm the captain of this team, and nobody wants to follow me. Kobe Bryant never said that he's the... And then I get rid of them. Why are you putting words in my mouth? And then I get rid of them to get new people,

then keep getting people who's on the follow. But you're saying all this to prove your point. That's not what I'm saying, Gilbert. That's not what I'm saying. What are you saying? I'm saying Kobe Bryant is the leader. He leads by example. The same things that you went in and watched him do,

the same things that helped you become a better player, watching his work ethic, when you watch that work ethic, he's leading by example. So when you follow that, you see success. You see success from that. And with his teams, when they won those two championships with the Lakers, those guys decided to follow him.

Follow him, okay. And what happened? What happens when you don't? We don't know. Because they won. They won. So how about after that? They wasn't guys that were able to raise their play to win.

But they knew he was the leader. It didn't take away from his leadership. What I'm saying is you're saying that people follow the leader. I hear what you're saying. But you don't. You're saying they're following the leader. And I'm saying that year when Kobe had the team, all those Nick Youngs, all those young kids wasn't following Kobe. Yes, they were.

No, they weren't. What were they doing? Following each other. Doing their own thing. Oh, my gosh. They were doing their own thing. So why would they all go on podcasts and they're saying that Kobe was our leader? Because people say anything.

Why are they saying that? If they're saying they're the leader, but they're not following him, which one is it? What do you mean? It's not up for us to decide that. Which one is it? You're trying to do all that to prove your point. I'm not trying to prove a point. I guess you are, but you're not listening to what to decide that. Which one is it? You're trying to do all that to prove your point. I guess you are, but you're... No, you're not. You're not listening to what I'm saying.

If no one's listening to me, we can get rid of them and get people. He's not talking, Gilbert. It ain't about listening to him. If he's leading by example. No, I didn't. If they're not listening, we can get rid of them. They're not following. Okay, so they're not... It ain't nothing about listening. You keep

putting your shit into something. I'm not even saying that. If they're not, so can a leader not be followed then? Oh my gosh. Let him answer his own question. Can a what? A leader not be followed by men. Can he be a

leader but no one follows him? Gilbert, what kind of question is that? Just listen to yourself ask that question. Can he be a leader but no one follows him Gilbert? What kind of question is that? Listen to yourself ask that question. He be a leader. That's a fucking rhetorical question Answer it Do you not hear yourself asking her and a leave say it again if he's a leader one is a leader but No one follows him. Is he a leader? So basically he's saying... I want him to answer. He ain't gonna answer it, because it's gonna trap him. Trap me? Yes. I just want to know, if he's a leader, if he considered himself a leader, he's the lead dog, but no one wants to follow him. Is he considered a leader?

Absolutely still, yes. It's those guys who are not, they don't want to follow him. It's their decision to make. It doesn't not make him a leader because they don't want to follow, because other guys can come in and follow him. What would that do then? Let's ask that question. What happens when the new guys come in and they follow him? So you get rid then? Let's ask that question. What happens when the new guys come in and they follow him?

So you get rid of... No, no, no. No, no. So you get rid of the guy. Let's ask the question. So you get rid of the guy. Can you answer my question? So that means everyone's a leader. I'm not asking about getting rid of...

I'm saying if there's a new pack of guys that come in... So everyone's a leader. Can I ask you to... Can you answer the question? Yes, everyone's a leader then. No, I'm not... No, you're not answering the question. Okay, let me answer your question.

The new guys come in and start following... Does that make him a leader? Yes that they follow him Okay, that's all we need to go. Can we go to the next thing? So everyone's a leader? No, everyone's not if you're not everyone's not a leader If I can just remove people that don't want to follow me and bring people that want to follow me I become a leader everyone becomes a leader then no everyone doesn't because everyone's not in a position for you to move them out and Follow me, but it may also raise a point towards a leader then. No, everyone doesn't because everyone's not in a position for you to move them out and follow me. But let me also raise a point towards the leader. Even if you have guys who are following you but they can't deliver on the court, right, then you're going to get new people in there.

Yeah. No sense. I'm just saying, if I'm the leader and I got people following me but they're not accomplishing what we need to accomplish, like somebody can look at Kobe and try to do all that same shit, but they go on the court. I'm not going to name any players on those Laker teams. But they can't play to that level. Example. They can't deliver the example. Yeah, exactly.

So I think from what you're saying. That's not what you're saying, though. It is what I'm saying. How are you going to tell me what I'm saying? Because we're hearing what you're saying. Because you're not listening. I'm listening to every word you say. No, you're not.

You're interpreting in your mind as I'm talking. You can't wait to talk. You're not digesting what I'm saying You're like, okay wait for him to talk so I can prove him wrong Actually, this is what you do. I'm listening. It's what you do. I'm listening to every row is what you do, bro I'm listening to every word you say so man. I see you're saying bro a leader leads if I Example, but if no one follows him and he can get rid of those people and it has nothing to do with him being a leader And get new group he can get rid of those people and get new group. It has nothing to do with him being a leader.

And get new group, he can become a leader. So in that theory, everyone technically become a leader. How is technically? All they just need is people that can follow them. If you're not following me today, I can get rid of you and bring someone who's going to follow me. Now I'm considered a leader. Not everyone can. But you're not going to be a leader.

Not everyone can get rid of people to come in and follow them, Gilbert. Not everyone. Eric Snow can't just get rid of a team and say, come in and follow me. Because he can't lead by example. Because he's a different kind of leader. There's more than one, like I said. Now we're putting the person who no one wants to follow.

You just said everyone can be a leader. You just said everyone can be a leader. By your theory. How is it by my theory? Okay, let's try this again. If this person is a leader, right, and we don't want to follow him

at all, right? We don't want to follow this man. Why don't you want to follow him? It doesn't matter. It does matter. What do you mean it doesn't matter? We don't believe in what he's saying. You don't believe in his championship. We don't believe in nothing he's saying. We don't like the way he's talking. He's not saying anything. We don't like the way he's talking. He's not saying anything. He's leading by example. And we don't like his example. What the fuck is going on? And we don't believe in nothing he's saying. We don't like the way he's talking. He's not saying anything. We don't like the way he's talking. He's not saying anything. He's leading by example.

Then we don't like his example. What the fuck is going on? He's not talking. Hold on. Am I being... Okay, what the fuck is going on? He keeps saying, we don't want to hear what he's saying. I'm like, how many times do I have to say he hasn't said a word?

We don't like his example. It's your IQ. We don't like his example then. How about that? It's your IQ. Forget this is what he's saying. We don't like his example. We don't like nothing he's doing. We don't like the fact that he How about that? It's your IQ. Forget this is what he's saying. We don't like his example. We don't like nothing he's doing.

We don't like the fact that he's won three championships. No. Okay. So they're not following him. Okay. So you get rid of him, right? And then you bring in... Guys who want to follow him.

More guys that want to follow him. Right? That makes him a leader now. What? Okay, it doesn't make him a leader. Let me just stop doing that. He has people that follow him. Now,

let's move him out. Let's say this is anyone. That hasn't won. That hasn't won. And is not leading by example. But he's vocal. Now these guys follow him. Does this make him a leader? Does it? It should, right? People following him. Does it? Yes. So James Posey is a leader on the it should write people following them does it yes?

So James Posey is a leader on the bench This man who has people following him he would be considered a leader for these guys they look at him as a leader yes Exactly what I said a guy on the bill at what point are you? What is different from my point than your point? Anybody can become a leader. Yes. All they have to do is have followers. Yes. So you don't have to be the best player. You don't have to be any of that.

You could be on the bench sitting. So how am I wrong? No one said you was wrong. So what is the point? You just went through all of that to do what? That's the problem. To prove you were wrong. No, I wasn't proving you wrong.

I was just trying to hear what you were saying. He helped you heard what I was saying just to prove that That there can be a leader like Eric Snow if guys decide to follow him as whoever right whoever follows as a leader cool So you disagree with my I didn't disagree. No, okay So if you don't disagree with my point, what would be the point of doing all of that? He was disagreeing with something. I was trying to know why was not Gilbert. I never disagree with my point, what would be the point of doing all of that? You was disagreeing with something I was trying to agree with. No, I was not, Gilbert. I never disagree with anything you said. Then how did we come up with the statement? Because I said you lead by example.

I said then lead by example. I was making the point that you can lead by example. That's where leadership comes, leading by example. You said, well, in your theory, anybody can be a... Then you went into that. You went into... I didn't question... No, I didn't. You said I was wrong. No, I didn't. Gilbert, never once. Never once.

Don't write a run on Gil's Arena. These are just spirited discussions, debates. Never once. Courtesy of our friends at Underdog Fantasy. So go ahead, download the app. Use promo code GILSARENA. Plus three. So they can match your deposit up to 100% But I mean, but we talked about this earlier, but from a vocal standpoint you talk about leading by example But at some point you guys are fucking the NBA player So if I'm wrong tell me you know to shut up

But you need a guy who can lead by example like a guy can watch somebody like Gil damn his ass is always in the gym I need to get my ass in the gym, but also somebody to be like yo get your ass in the gym You know I mean so yeah, I got here get my ass in the gym, but also somebody to be like, yo, get your ass in the gym. You know what I mean? I got, here, this is, is LeBron a leader? I feel like LeBron has been for the most part, maybe his first couple of seasons, the leader on every team he's went to,

for better or worse. Sometimes that's led to championships, sometimes that's created tension. Okay, so I'm gonna, okay, so there's a player, I'm not gonna say his name, there's a player i'm not going to say his name there's a player who wanted to be traded but because he said man i want to do my own thing i don't like that we go to lunch together we go to dinner together we go to movies together i got my own man why am i doing all this team Right, and he didn't want to follow LeBron

Because LeBron was trying to build team Dinners lunch, right everything we're gonna do it as a team and his one player young player Did not like the concept of being around his teammates like that. So in his eyes, he wouldn't look at that man as a leader, right? Did this player soil LeBron's legacy by going to another team right where the going got tough? God, don't say that. I mean, no, no, no. No, no, the player's on another team. Is he still in the NBA?

Yeah, he's in the NBA. Does this player have a new shoe deal? Does he have a new shoe deal and that he's part owner of Baller kicks in Dallas. Oh This is a Laker this is a Laker And ask the question one of the Laker young players as a vision. Oh like are we allowed to like Agree to disagree to say like you have your point and I have my point is that is that cool no sometimes like is that cool no sometimes I'm wording something different and I think

you think I'm going against you and you already are combating it not realizing I'm saying the same thing just different if I'm in the middle of a point making a point and you come in to interject to say no I think it's this right that means that I'm I'm in the middle of a point, making a point, and you come in to interject and say, no, I think it's this. That means that I'm in the middle of giving my perspective. You disagree with it. What did I disagree with? I don't know what you disagree with, but you went into your whole spill. How can you say I'm disagreeing

with you on whatever? Because you just went into a whole spill about, well, based on your theory, anybody can be a... But that wasn't my point. That was the point of leadership. My point is I have a different perspective on leadership than you do. That's the

point. But then I make a point and then you agree with the point. Because you have a point, Gilbert. You have a fair opportunity to prove a point. And I can agree with your point. Okay. You can disagree with mine But I didn't but it doesn't matter if you if you if you do or don't don't matter But the fact that all right, I have my point

Uh-huh, and you wanted to give your point on top of my point. I'm okay with that my guy I was but the fact that but you were trying to just you were trying to tell me that well Based on your you're wrong. you're wrong based on your theory. You said you was wrong. He never said that there are multiple figures. It's like you're saying the crayon box only has two crayons. I'm like, no, it comes with actually six more. And I just named the other six.

And then you're like, oh, yeah, there's six more. Okay. But you trying to say I'm wrong because I said two? Yeah, no, I'm just adding the rest of the book. You know I'm good at going through the film. You know I'm good at bringing back. We do that every single time, and I get you every single time you every single time when I have a whole clip of you saying Booker the day No things did that that I have proof of you. You'd said this no, you know like

Rashad is like you saying that Your confidence is bigger than mine in the shooting contest. I never said that. You did say that, Gilbert. I have it on the clip. Flex the rings. I have it. I have the clip.

Let's roll the clips. Let's roll. I have all, like, it's all on. I and the Sky don't lie. Oh, you're talking about shooting. I'm just talking about anything. I'm talking about just points. Anything that you have said that is like, oh, I didn't say that, we can prove it. You mean like when you said that the Phoenix Suns

getting what's it ain't to be the point guard, and you said, I told y'all, and then I had to break down the whole clip to show you that you wasn't even for the Suns. You and Brandon Jennings was against the Suns. You were so competitive with that point that when I said, I told y'all, I wasn't saying that I told you that I was right, Gilbert. I just said, I told y'all. Because I told y'all I wasn't saying that I told you that I was right Gilbert

That's what I just said I told you then because it it means that I said This I said the similar thing. I didn't say you didn't know what it you're wrong I said this and Gilbert didn't say it. I didn't say that I did it I said I did I say that he was like cat you must be drunk. Yeah, bro You must be drunk he drove don't listen I do remember that. Am I right? Bro. You must be drunk. He drunk.

We don't listen to drunk people. Bro. And I had to pull out the clip for you. Bro. Stop. Okay. I guess I put it in the group chat again. Stop.

We all saw it. Stop. We are getting along. I just like that. Stop. I thought we all united after the Montgomery Riverfront. Stop. It just feels good for another NBA player

to say that there's multiple ways to leave because since I didn't play in the NBA, my opinion is not valid. I'm not allowed to speak on leadership because I didn't play

in the National Basketball Association or the Women's National Basketball Association. Somebody's in there fucking feeling. No, you are. God damn.

I didn't even say all that. What are you talking about? I didn't even say all that. What the fuck? You just said all this on your own. I literally said that. I didn't say any of that. You said that I didn't play in the NBA. I said you're giving an opinion based on a perspective. Yeah, and you said yours, I

didn't play at the level you played or where you played, so my opinion isn't valid because... I never said none of that. We'll roll the tape back none of that roll the tape back We'll roll the tape back later. I'll throw it in the chat. You literally said there's people DM in me right now We'd read these DM. We hug your feelings Listen, can we hug after the show? We can hug let's talk about me and Rashad. We good. This is just a healthy debate, right? Man are not allowed to cry, but can we all hug you know or just that? When is your birthday? I was in the middle of this one a little bit a little bit on bit. No, you're on my side. I was in the middle.

You're on the right side. There's no sides in life. You're on the right side. The side that's correct. I never side with chicks. Gil, shut up. Stop that. Can men side with women?

Can we ask that at the pulpit? Stop that. You can't do that. You sided with a person, not a chick. A person's talking about... But all very important perspectives. Yeah. And at the end of the day, there's no right or wrong way

with any of that shit. We talked about it before the show. We knew this was gonna go this way. We knew what was gonna go this way. That we were gonna have different sides of opinions. Yeah, for sure. We knew that, so that's why I'm not tripping. You are, for sure tripping.

But there's not even a- You're definitely tripping. But it's not even a tripping situation. I mean, I think it's all perspective. You can't even look me in my eye. I mean, I think it's all you can't even look I'm a good I'm a great actor because this is this doesn't bother me faze me or none of us So it's just one of these things where we get into a spirited Conversation you're a kid right and we get into a spirited conversation You'll have me and you ever had any riff on all the arguments that we've ever had on the show

Have we ever after the show show, been like, fuck you, nigga. I don't give a fuck. Have we been into that? No. Have we? No. So why are you saying I'm sensitive? So why are you saying I'm sensitive?

Have we? No. Yes, we have. How? You. You've gotten upset with me and not spoken to me. I don't get upset with nobody. What are you talking about?

Yes, you have. The fuck are you talking about? Yes, you have. Nobody gives no fucks about what you guys are doing. I don't give no fucks. I leave here. I go do my thing. About the fuck are you talking about? Bro I do not like how you kick me out of the group. I do not tolerate disrespect. That's all yes you don't Can we keep going? No. Time for MostlyFans. Keep going. Keep going. Let's keep going, y'all. Let's keep going, bro. Let's keep going.

Can we keep going? Can we keep going? Can we keep going? MostlyFans. Can we go? Can we go? Can we keep going? You are a crier.

Can we keep going? MostlyFans. Can we keep going? Somebody's figuring. Somebody's figuring. There's a question. Let's go. What is the question?

Miko, it has come from underdog there. Miko, what size are your cannons? 34 double D. 34 double D. Whoever wrote that, you get $50. And $50, what was it again? No, what size? 34 double D. 34 double D. Did anybody say that?

That's not a real question. That's not a real question. That's not a real question. Oh, my bad. Who has the right to right now get $50? Hurry up. If I sit you over here arguing like this, let me know you cry. Only fans. I mean, mostly fans.

Mostly fans. Let's keep this mostly fans centric. You don't want me to cry every night. Let's end the beef. Increase the peace. I think he goes to the gym and shoot. He goes 24 hours, finish and play. After he cries.

Let's be a family again. The Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. I'm still cool with him. I hope he's still cool with me. No beef on this show. There's no beef. Most of the fans. Most of the fans.

First question. His UDF tag is Yankee next door then we uh we already gave him some money but shit you're gonna keep winning what former NBA player would you fight in a celebrity boxing match fight I will fight... Who's white? Trying to win. What? I want to win! What am I supposed to say? I'm supposed to say somebody that?

No, I'm... It's in honor of the broad. You know, my age, but like Dan Dickow, you know, maybe one of the Miami boys. You said Dan Dickow? Maybe Dan Dickow, you know, maybe one of the Miami boys. You said Dan Dickow? Maybe one of them, you know. Oh, my God.

Kyle Korver. You know, somebody I know I can get a little easy win. What are we doing here? John Stockton? No, Herdy Feisty. He's in shape. Man, I told you I'm trying to fight somebody like easy win, like round ten six one white was Bob Cousy's birthday Bob Cousy now

95 goddamn Easy win for me Bob Cousy, but everybody clouds by cozy, but Bob Kuzzi was cooking back in the day. He had negro tendencies on the court. When everybody else was just doing this, he crossed it over. For the win, they said celebrity. Like, why would I take an L? Why?

I know you don't want to take no L's. I know you don't like them. Yeah, so I'm gonna fight somebody I know I can win. I actually, uh... It's getting tense. Not a player, but more of a sports journalist thing. I challenged Sage Steele to a celebrity boxing match. You did? Yeah, she didn't want the fight.

She wrote a four-page letter that was literally talking to me, but not addressed to me. I was killing her on Twitter. What'd she do? It was just a whole moment of her just not really standing in her blackness and she was just saying a whole bunch of shit as if she wasn't a black woman. Then she started talking about how she was so grateful that her white husband chose her, like that he even chose a black woman. As if like, that's not the prize. A black woman isn't the prize. We are the queen of the world. And she

acted like this white man choosing her like she couldn't believe it like he actually chose a black woman and i really was offended by that so i went out we had a little back and forth okay or whatever and i actually challenged her to a celebrity she said she wanted no she didn't she didn't respond to it that part of it say so if you're watching gil's arena and then somebody showed me that they Googled me on, and when they Googled me, her picture shows up as Miko Grimes.

That really pissed me off. Do you feel like she did that? I don't know. Somebody on the internet. That just pissed me off. Made me want to punch her in the face. I don't even know

who she's talking about. You don't know who Sage Steele is? No. Okay. What'd she do? I don't... She's a sports reporter.

ESPN. If you fought Bob Cousy and he got the best of you, would you cry? Yeah, I'd be done. No. Okay. What she do? I don't... She's a sports reporter. ESPN. If you fought Bob Cousy and he got the best of you, would you cry? Yeah, I'd be done. Okay. You'd cry? 95-year-old man beat me?

Oh, yeah, I'm done. Oh, man, Taki. I'm done. I'm out of here. Your kids are never going to look at you the same. I'm never going to look at me the same. So who are you fighting in a celebrity boxing match? Niko Grimes.

Boy. Niko. Hey, that was a bit funny. That might be the one. Niko Grimes Boy That motherfucker read a crossword Ladies and gentlemen We may be back next week We may not Brent Grimes though

I got my money on Brent Brent ass We're not starting though Who you got? The Cuffs I already know we got the cuffs Probably stack Say fire. Mm-hmm Wow Money for that. I'll pay money for the a stack for you know the fake cuz he said he'd been boxing He've been doing this thing in the ball, but all friendly y'all are gonna beef. No, no fucking like I came on

I'm not that's my nigga. Hey, we got Underdog to put that on. He said he's been in the ring training, you know what I'm saying? And I've always wanted to get in the ring

with Le'Veon Bell and all the guys. Yeah. Have you ever been approached for any of that type of shit? Fight TV did some shit. They asked one time, but we couldn't get

nothing together. But even like when Nick Young was doing the shit, all those guys, I wanted to get in the mix with that shit. But actually, Kendall Gill is in trying to. He do some difference. He's on some MMA. No, but no, no. But he wanted to box, but nobody wants to give him a chance. Yeah, because he can really do that shit.

He's 50, man. He still do it, though. No matter. Kendall Gill. Stack five would be a tough, formidable opponent. He's 50, man. He still do it, though. Kendall gives it. Stack five would be a tough formidable opponent. Hood unification belt. Absolutely.

All right, so question number two. We got to shame this human being for not having an underdog username but having a great handle. It's Habachi Liberace. So what organization's got the best group of players who are dogs? When you look around the league right now, what team has the most dogs on it? Miami.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Miami. Coffee is coffee. Makes sense. Makes sense. Do we all agree on something?

I agree. Do we all agree on something. I agree Do we all just become best friends? No, why are y'all be hyping this? I'll be doing this shit is unnecessary. You're making I'm not trying to like it something and it's not like I don't Give a fuck about none of this shit. We're on these night leather fuck. Yo, but we're on these night leather fuck yo, but we're on these nice Again I don't have to say none of that shit I don't have to say we best friends and none of this shit And I actually don't have to like you to work with you. I don't have to do none of that shit You like I actually do I'm a professional and I'm a gentleman like me and I don't mind you I actually I actually fuck with your personality and everything. So listen.

You just keep going. Stop. Damn. We get it. You don't agree. So stop. It's this point where we can like eh. But you keep going. When I disagree with you, why didn't you say, well, she agrees to disagree. I don't have. I just shut up.

I just. But you get it. But you still going. Look how you're still going still going We gotta move on because Gil you still going even right now the chat is spoken date This is there There's a scissor in Chatsworth. What's it? Wait, what? I've been meeting this. Remember Scissor used to be the shit. I used to work there. It used to be the shit.

A different food bar, like a pasta stack shit, but then they consolidated. That's just capitalism in a nutshell, brother. But we'll go to question number three. We all agreed on Miami for number two.

Yes. So question number three, this comes from, under our username, is Beyonce's nephew. Who is a sneaky good team to watch out for next year? Sneaky good team. Ooh.

Sneaky good, I mean, you can go with Sac still, right? I would say the Kings. They're not sneaky, bro. They can't be sneaky. Nigga, I just said Sac. The three-steam, right? You can't be sneaky as a... That's what I said. You could say because they they're young I want to try okay see I was thinking

Orlando they get Check back. I thought Orlando like a year or two away. Okay see We check now. I'm saying okay see now SGA making that leap giddy like that crew and they bring one more in there Yeah, I don't know though. They similar to Orlando, Houston. They got the two vets. But they got the two vets. I love them.

They got the two vets that they paid. I don't know. It might change. But they not scoring. SGA is a 30 point a night. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And Giddey is a triple-double.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They got a couple guys that can deliver a night. It was fun watching them. But then Chicago? Chicago started out good, right? Like, they got a couple guys that can deliver. It was fun watching them. Chicago? Chicago started out good, right? Then they kind of dipped.

He ain't been the same since Zoe. He got that ball going through. Dang, I miss him. Shout out Lonzo Ball, man. We praying for you, dog. We want you to get back on the court. Fuck, man. That's a player, that.

That's sad. We praying for you. One of them sneaky young teens. Miko, how about yourself? Who are you rolling with? I would say Sacramento Kings. Same thing. Sacramento is like...

Remember back in the day how they had that run and they were real good and they just kind of fell off? And I feel like that's part of the reason that nobody even watched them, even the playoffs. They were playing really good basketball all year and people are like they're not gonna do that you know just kind of throwing away and I think that that's gonna happen again this year and maybe they won't run into I mean I thought we were watching them to see if they would dethrone that warrior squad yeah even though they were to succeed but then LeBron did. To be expected.

What happened after that? He was riding so high after that shit. The junker came in, did him like Apollo Creed. Good times. Cavs. Yes. Sneaky. Spider, is he staying?

So far. I thought he was low Spider, is he staying? So far. I thought he was, like, low-key saying he wanted out of there. Hmm. They actually the most sneakiest. They the sneakiest. They could be, yeah. All right, so question number four. So there's rumors right now that he won't resign with the Cavs,

but he's there as of right now. Right. And the Cavs know it. And no disrespect to Cleveland, not a terrible city. What? Not a terrible city. Yes, it is. What the Cavs know it. And no disrespect to Cleveland, not a terrible city. What? What? Not a terrible city. Yes, it is.

What? It's actually awful. We already had Detroit in our sights. I was trying to say somebody's thing. It's not an awful city. Work on the transit.

More Ubers, please. More Ubers. Not as Cleveland. Detroit's better than Cleveland. What? Yeah. Who came 30 and 29? Okay, it's still shit. All right. Better. Better. You know, but the and 29, okay, this is still shit

You know, but the good thing about Cleveland underdog fantasy legal there Y'all can get down on it Cleveland work on the transit though more ubers. Okay, we can't all star You know, we had a makeshift defect. Okay, we're driving us around there. That was a cold all-star But you should never have the all-star on those up north, midwest. Nobody wants to go there, so that's a chance for the NBA to put money into that city. That's why it's always in cities like that. But we need more better. We need Ubers, okay?

It can't be 15 minutes on the way time. Damn. I'm centrally located near all the shit, but it's too cold to walk to. But last question. This is from... They're giving out money. Yeah. We run we're under dogs pockets Okay, when shout out Jeremy Levin he came through today

Let him know what it was y'all not gonna thwart us busters all these other big brands out there trying to hate we coming for Y'all and we're standing on all your shows This is from yo, so Said who is the best role player ever? Best role... Role player. Wait, role player, role player, role player. Like, you could still be a starter and be a role player, right? So this can't be a number two player, right?

That's a Robin still. Right, a rope. We have to define role player first. That's not the star player. But anybody beyond not the star player is the... So Kobe. Kobe was the role player at one point. With Shaq?

I mean, that's what I'm saying. Are we going to use that? Were they the star players? Now it's they. We're using pronouns. Okay, so all-stars, not role players. Okay. So all-stars, not...

Like a Bruce Bowen type star player. Oh, okay, okay. So Bruce... Okay, so like yourstars not role players. Okay. So all-stars not role players. Scottie Pippen. Like a Bruce Bowen type star player. Oh, okay, okay. So Bruce. Okay, okay, okay. So like your fourth, fifth best player. But yeah, but a guy even has that fourth, fifth best player. Like Robert Ory. Plays role.

Oh, my favorite was Geno. Sixth man. You're sixth man. Okay. Which is wild. Geno be all the famers. Playing a role. Okay, so would Draymond Green be considered a role player?

He's an all-star. Or Iguodala. He's an all-star. Iguodala. Oh, Iguodala, He's an all-star. So Iguodala. Oh, Iguodala, yeah. All right, so now we know the criteria. Okay. We just makeshifted it, but...

Will Amar Odom be a role player? Ooh. Absolutely. I'm not aware, but yeah. Amar... Oh. Okay. Damn.

Lou Williams. So that's Lou Williams. That would be Can be Jamal Jamal Crawford Jamal Crawford. Oh Jason Terry Damn yeah, I would then I would give it if those guys are allowed to then Individually, then I will say probably Jamal Crawford. The question was who's the best role player ever? Best me. Ever.

Ever is not too far. The best as far as skill? Yeah, they left it very broad. Best as far as the role? Doing the best at their role? Yeah, I would say who's the best at their role? What's the dude's name? The loud one. Why is his name?

He played for Detroit. He played for the Clippers. He has a podcast. Pat Bev? Oh, Pat Bev. Yes. But see, he would lose to guys who averaged 20-something as role players. His role was to be a heckler, to harass, to play. You know what I mean?

He did a great job at his job. I'm going to go me or Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford. I'm going Robert. Big shot, Bob. We're picking those three. Robert Ory. That's a, you know, we have to talk in depth about him and his career. That's a role as far as a role and delivering and helping

consistently. Shout out to Big Shot, Bob. Come on the podcast. We know you somewhere. This one you can't really get wrong. It's a preference. It's definitely not a wrong answer. Which role player

y'all think cried the most? Cried? I'm going to shed a thug tear. You know one of my favorite old school role players was B.J. Armstrong. You guys remember him? You know B.J. Armstrong? Legend. You guys remember him? You know B.J.?

Yes. He was... I used to really like him. B.J. was solid. He came in and did what he was supposed to do. He was awesome. Was it? No.

No. I don't think so. But this has been another all-star show. Yes. Well, we appreciate y'all pulling up to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop. We will appreciate y'all pulling up to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop! Whoop, whoop!

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