Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over The NBA Being World Champions

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Gil's Arena Talks NBA WORLD Champions and Giannis' Looming Free Agency as Gilbert Arenas Gives his take on Noah Lyles' comments about the NBA not being World Champion material and the NBA Stars who clapped back. The Crew also discusses Giannis Antetokounmpo's comments to the Milwaukee Bucks about his upcoming free agency and Jaylen Brown playing in The Big3 tournament. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ THE HOMETOWN FAVORITES https://thehometownfavorites.com/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:02:45 Gil Wins Big3 Championship  0:05:29 Noah Lyles Says NBA Not World Champions 0:12:42 USA vs The World 0:42:33 Giannis Gives Bucks A Warning 1:21:13 What Do Bucks Need To Do To Keep Giannis 1:37:46 Who Should Bucks Pair With Giannis? 1:58:00 MostlyFans 2:07:57 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gil Gil Gil Gil Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo! Woo! We are turned up on a Tuesday. This is our last week of season one, so we're going to ride it out.

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But not number three, two, or one yet. But we still working on it. Here's what we got cracking today. Giannis made some interesting comments about his future in Milwaukee. But should the Bucks be worried? Should NBA champions call themselves world champions? There's been a lot of talk, a lot of debate about it. I'm sorry.

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We got audio versions available on Spotify Apple wherever you get your podcast from but let's get into it Big three held their championships in London this weekend and Gil your team the enemies got the win Which means after 41 years the Gilbert Arena's professional championship draw has ended. You are a world champion, champion, a local champion. What are you? He's a United States of America champion. Which one, man? I was fired.

Wait, you got fired from your own team? So you didn't have a part of it? Wait. I was looking for you. Okay, so this is how it was. I picked my team, did all that. Had my two first games. And then my daughter's AAU season, you know, son's AAU, USA basketball. So I was like, all right, Nick, you coach, right, because I don't want you to play.

You know, you don't play. We're just going to go with our little group, right? Stick to that. You got five minutes, right? So actually we start winning. So I was like, all right, we winning. You know, I'll wait until y'all lose before I come back. to that you got five minutes right so actually we start winning so it's all right we went in you know I'll wait till y'all lose before I come back so they lost and I think Boston so lost in Boston

and I was like then I can't come to Detroit so I'll meet y'all in Washington so I met y'all in DC we was in Baltimore and I was like, I come to DC. And then they were like, yeah, your team, they on they good winning streak. They like the way things is moving. You know, they don't want you back. I was going to put cases on all those hoe niggas right there. Wow.

Oh, man. Like, I picked y'all. Ew. Brick by brick. Ew. What you talking about? No, no, man, it's good. Brick by brick. Brick by brick. Pitch all you break my break Individually good You I picture nah, but not I let Nick be the coach

We good, but you were you picked the team you were still there to start the season So are you getting a big three championship ring? You still got to get one. I don't know. I got to ask that. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You still get one? Cube your man. The shit I had to deal with.

Cube your man, right? It's the shit I had to deal with with Nick. Fuck yeah. Even though I'm going to wear his ring, it's going to be 50-50. Four days to me, three days him. But he called you out, though. He said he a real champion. He said you ain't see his.

I know you've seen his. No, no, he's a real champion. He said you ain't see his... I know you've seen his... No, no, he's a real champion. He won the NBA championship. Yeah, he's like... But he drew league and... Yeah, he won three. He got a Drew League championship, NBA championship. The Holy Trinity.

Swaggy peasy. So we're asking the chat if you should get a ring. I'll let you know the results. But on a scale of zero to 50 million, how much does a big three championship ring worth? Don't you undervalue it. That's fucked up. Don't you undervalue it. Get what you give me.

Technically, since it's my first ring, you know, it's worth something if they give it to me. Go get it. Let's get a cue ball. I got two games in,

so, you know, it's my team. Shit, it was started with me, so I should be able to get one. I started the season off. It's my team. Shit, it was started with me. I should be able to get one. I started the season off. It's like Steve Kerr with the Golden State Warriors. It's like you got injured halfway through.

Back you out of me. Got you back you out of me. Let's talk a little bit about Jalen Brown. After signing the richest extension in NBA history, Jalen Brown made some history, becoming the first active NBA player to participate in the Big 3 All-Star Game. Brown said he did it to show his support to the league and the ice cube supporting a black business So what are your thoughts on Jalen Brown playing in the big three all-star game? Man I thought it was cool

We on the last week I mean, I mean it's summer we got some big three veterans in here Y'all not rolling with it. Do you think it's good for the league? What do you played in the celebrity game? They had like an all-star game. He participated in Yeah, congratulations. No, no Some notoriety, you know I'm saying Jaylen still actively playing. No, I'm saying I Know it's cool. No, it was good to see him support. You know I'm saying but yeah, don't give a fuck Yeah, I know that I don't give a fuck. No, I mean it was dope but I ain't Put too much thought into it. You know I'm saying I haven't put too much thought I thought it when I saw it Oh, that's cool. We support it. You know I'm saying that's what's up. You know I'm saying

I wasn't I wasn't able to bet on the underdog. So I was just kind of off it. We just do pickups We don't I mean you pick them. Yeah, my bad. I was trying to pick I was like, yo, on the underdog, so I was just kind of off it. We just do pick-ups. I mean the pick-ups, yeah. My bad. I was trying to pick. I was like, yo, where are the big three picks, man? I'm trying to get my gear. They got rid of it. They had it for a little bit.

And they had it until that last. I could see him playing in the big three, though, when he's done. I could see him playing in the big three when he's done just because. You think? Yeah. Yeah, it's not. Because I think he just wants to play like he doesn't he doesn't like I don't know Yeah, I'll do he cares like you know, I'm this or that eight seven eight eight might sound like that Like when he's done playing I could see him like playing in the big three. He's all he's I mean, that's

What he's playing in is of the all-star game. It's not really. So it's still a fun thing. So it's no different than if an active NBA player played in a celebrity game, which I'm surprised no NBA players tried on All-Star Weekend. I got to make the all-star game where, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm a celebrity. Yeah, but I'm a celebrity still. Absolutely.

I'm a celebrity. You don't need no old ex-NBA player. I'm cool with this. I'm a cook. I got 48. No, but it was good. It was good. I'm pretty sure next time it comes in,

I mean, he can only play in those type of events. We're trying to pretend that it was like something that's, that was far-fetched. Yeah, yeah. Right, you know, everyone is, everything else during the season is a team thing. Yeah. Right, so he's not on a team, so the All-Star game or Celebrity game or competing in like

a four-point shootout, like part of that, that's what he's only, or any current player can do. I mean, there's not a lot of reaction we can give because it's like, it's the big three all-star game, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a cool thing for him to do. You know what I'm saying? He's just giving support where other guys have showed up, court side, set, you know,

James Harden, all those guys have showed up, Brian, but he actually stepped on the court, which is up to level now for the fans to come on. You never know who's going to be there. It's dope. It was a dope little gesture, for sure. Especially for that generation. Yeah. Like that young generation that can see, like, oh, was he playing?

Oh, shit. Show up. Never know who's going to be there. Yeah, I mean, it's getting, maybe it's some of the guys who just got done playing or near the end, you know what I'm saying, get them a different perspective on the league. Yep. You know what I'm saying, on the big three. Well, let's not beat around the bush.

We know what we came here to talk about today. Damn. I'm just being real with y'all. Shout out to big three, congrats. Yeah. You got your championship ring. Hope you let me borrow it. Be like both of ours.

I got the trophy at the house. Be like both of ours. Huh? I got the like both of ours. I got the trophy at the house. Be like both of ours. I got the trophy at the house. You got the trophy at the house? You got it? Can you bring it with you Thursday? Yeah, I bring the big three trophy through. Let's talk about biggest news from this weekend.

So track star Noel Lyles had a bunch of NBA players in their feelings. After the win in 100 and 200 meters at the World Championships, Lyles let it be known how he feels about NBA champions trying to call themselves world champions. You know the thing that hurts me the most is that I have to watch the NBA finals and they have world champion on their head. World champion of what?

The United States? Don't get me wrong i i love the u.s at times but that ain't the world that is not the world we are the world we have almost every country out here fighting thriving putting on they flag to show that they are represented. There ain't no flags in the NBA. I love the U.S. at times, too, so I came in front. Lyle's comments appeared to be lighthearted, but NBA players didn't like that shit one bit. Took to social media to voice their displeasure. Kevin Durant said, somebody help this brother.

Udonis Hathem said, big fan, but gone with that bullshit, bruh. Sucker shit. Aaron Gordon said, whatever, I'm smoking buddy in the 200 meter. And even Drake got in on the action. He said, he thought his speech was going to be so hard in the mirror the night before. Now the whole league doesn't rate you with a bunch of smiley faces. But here's the thing. Lyle's comments are similar to ones that Greg Popovich made back in 2010.

When asked about it, Pop said, there are no world champions in the NBA, so anybody that has the flag up that says world champions is not correct. It's not appropriate. It doesn't make sense for an NBA team to call themselves world champions. I don't remember anybody playing anybody outside our borders to get that tag. So when somebody mentioned what about Toronto, which is not in the United States, it's in Canada, a whole other country. Pop responded, there's a team in Canada, that's true. The world's bigger than North America. I know sometimes we as Aryan Americans don't

respond to the rest of the world, but it's true There's a big world out there and there is a big world out there until there's a war and then all of a sudden Everybody need us. Mm-hmm Me to know the world wars you're already done Just keep it in real. Oh, hey, that was a very articulate I'm gonna say no way losing ain't no way we ever losing when we pull up right. You know, we pack that thing up. Say that again? When we what? When we pull up. When we pull up, shit gets real, right? When we pack that thing up. But Brandon, I'll start with you.

Was Noel Lyles spitting or shitting with his world champion comment? Look at him. Do you? Was he? I mean, the delivery wasn't good. It was delivery. The delivery kind of messed it all up. But what he meant, I understand what he was trying to say, though.

And I kind of like, I mean, I low-key agree. Like, I feel like if the NBA champion, yeah, you are winning the championship for the United States of America. But there are other leagues around the world. So it's like, why don't the NBA champions play against the Euro Cup champions and just play for the world championship? And since we're in an era right now where the game is getting better, the Europeans are running the league right now. So it's kind of like, yeah, well, we need to just put it all, let's just put it all to bed. Let's just put it all to rest. Like, let's just, you know.

Fuck your shit, man. Like, the Denver who won the championship should play against whoever won the championship in the Euro Cup. Yeah. And meet for the world championship. So, they actually have done that before. Back in the day, they used to do the McDonald's championship. So, the Bulls went there in 97. Spurs went there in 99. 99 smack the shit out of the team

But was it real though? So it's not real that's not that but they did it nonetheless Rashad How you feel about skip to me? We this is a roundtable. Let's go around. Let's go around the day. We have this we hop it I'll go to up goes over go last you last. You agree with him, so go. I haven't said a word. We're waiting for you. I haven't said a word.

That's kidding. I haven't said a word. Why are you asking me? You're skipping. Why are you skipping? I don't. Hey, I got nothing. I got nothing to say.

He's fucking home. I got nothing to say. I got nothing to say. Hey, I came here to watch. Okay, so you don't have no answer. You have nothing on this topic. Cool. Yeah, I got something on this watch. Okay, so you don't have no no answer you have nothing on this topic Cool. Yeah, I got something to stop it. Oh, then go Hmm, okay the water before you start first time in TV history. We see the answer question either baggage

So, yeah. Like you said, the delivery's off. You know what I'm saying? Because black people don't like arrogance, how you say shit. But, you know, Pop said almost the same thing he said. White man said, you know, everybody stay the fuck quiet. He don't say shit. So you agree with him?

Can I talk? Can I talk? Can I talk? Pop said the same shit this nigga said. Anybody say shit? Now, this nigga say it. All the niggas get up, triggered, feel some type of way about what he's saying. I just want to know where are the lies that he's told.

What is it that he told that whatever he said is not correct? The NBA is a league. The NBA champs are the people who win in that league. And I've created something called the World Basketball League where we want them Arabs and them UAEs and... Well, I would say the Arabian, the Arabian folks. The Arabian folks. I understand. That's what I'm saying. The Arabian folks. They understand.

You know what I'm talking about. Dubai, AUAE, come over and start the World Basketball League, right? Where you match the funds and the salary to the NBA because the NBA is the most paid, highest paid league in the world, which is why everybody wants to play in the NBA, because we get the bread, right? So you play against the world. Play in the world, which is why everybody wants to play in the NBA because we get the bread, right? So you play against the world. Play against the world. How are we going to find out who the world championship is

if you're talking about the NBA? Pop said there ain't no flags being rolled. Ain't nobody. What are we doing? If Pop's saying it, ain't that what the code is? Ain't that what the code is? That's what... That's real. When Pop says pop station shit everybody bow the fuck

down i'm just trying to see what the what the what the uproar is what everybody's so upset for are you look where everybody's so triggered everybody's so triggered like what you triggered for are you agreeing with pop then i'm not agreeing with you i'll just give my perspective what is your perspective my perspective is there should be a world leads where everybody plays for the world chair Or we just don't call it. Okay, so you don't agree that it should it's so what pop said It shouldn't be called the world champion the same person who thought Pop was a horrible coach. So why would she we even just respect your take if you thought that man was a whore?

What does that mean? That was a horrible take it did not did not come back and say what I said after that I mean you put you on you double down on that because I I come back and say what I said after that? I mean, you probably did. So you doubled down on that? I'm saying it. Because I did come back and say what I said. Now, here's ignorance, right? The NBA is the best league in the world. The best players gravitate here. Are we correct?

Because it's the best paid. And it's the best league. It's the best league because of money. And the best league. It's the best league because of money. And the best league. The best talent in the world is here. Because of money. Because of money. No, just because of money.

When it was paying $40,000 and $50,000 when Charles Barkley and them was here, euros were getting paid more. They were coming here. Some. Some. A handful. A handful. Now they're running the league.

But if the money was the same in Europe, Cool. Cool. It would be crazy. Okay, cool You have players problem is do start off with this is what makes me mad like like it irritates him that a League sport calls themselves world champs. He's an individual Individual so he thinks individually he trains individually for his sports right so do we know we do but we didn't get grouped

into a team atmosphere he gets to play by himself he gets to go by himself he don't actually representing Gil he don't need to represent you and he is though no he has to because that's the only way to be considered the man but he don't need to represent you and he is though No, he has to because that's the only way to be considered the man, but he don't he's running for himself Just like the other three people on that team. They're running for themselves They're not running for you say on the team You sit on that team when they do four by one minute when they do four by one hundred They're a team other than that. They're individuals. There were three Americans in the 200. They were not a team.

I didn't interrupt you. You told me not to interrupt you, right? You're right. In the 200, the event he won for the third time, there's three Americans. Do you think they're running for the country or they're running for themselves? The country. Themselves. Number two was an American.

He didn't even shake number one's hand. He didn't celebrate with the winner. He didn't give a fuck about that because that's the goal that he wanted, that he trained for. We don't get that privilege. See? Yes we do. No we don't. Yes we do.

No we don't. Yes we do. Hold on. Yes we do. If I'm MVP, I'm MVP. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's me, nigga. That's me. That's me. That's me. That's all the world's MVP. Let me add to Gil's point.

So you with Gil? Of course. Absolutely with fucking Gilbert. The fuck y'all think? I mean, I think both y'all wrong. I mean, I think both y'all wrong. I don't agree. I don't care.

I don't agree. When they say Michael Phelps, do they say USA won all them gold medal women? Do they say Michael Phelps do they say USA won all them gold medal women do they say USA What does this have to do with anything that Get to the point he's training for and he's training as an individual but that's not what he's talking about His mindset is individualized. Individualized. Same shit, man.

So hold on. So him and his sport, the first two, the fastest people in America, the fastest automatically gets, the fastest, the best players in the NBA don't get a chance to win the gold. We got to be selected by a group of people. Now, if you want to put it to fairness, where we get to use our individual skills, you know how they say Joker is the best player in NBA? Then let's do individual skill work. One-on-one. Is he the best player in the world now?

We don't know. We don't know. Is he going to beat Kevin Durant one-on-one? We don't know. We don't know. Is he going to beat LeBron James one-on-one? We don't know. Fuck no. We don't know. We don't know. Is he going to beat Kevin Durant one-on-one? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Is he going to beat LeBron James one-on-one? We don't know.

Fuck no. We don't know. We don't know. That sounds like an opinion. We don't know. You guys are just talking. That sounds like an opinion. That's a fact.

We don't know. That ain't no fact. That ain't no fact. That ain't no fact. Luke does not beat Jimmy Butler, Devin Booker, Kawhi Leonard. He is not beating Kevin Durant in no one-on-one tournament. Four of the best niggas in the league are European. Four of the best niggas in the league are European. No, no, no, no. Four of the best niggas in the league are European. Four of the best niggas in the league are European.

Four of the best niggas in the league are European. No, four of the best niggas in the league are European. Fuck that. Who's the best shooter in the world? Fuck that. Who's the best shooter in the world? I'm not rolling with that. Who is the best shooter in the world?

They have Stephanie Curry. If they had a number one, if they had a shooting, a three-point contest in the World Games, who's winning it? We're talking about one thing. Who's winning it? We're talking about winning it. Who is winning it one-on-one contest in the World Games, who's winning it? We're talking about one thing. Who's winning it? We're talking about one thing. Who is winning the one-on-one? We don't know. Who is winning?

We don't know. Who is winning the dunk contest? We don't know. Who is winning the dunk contest? We don't know. Is it going to be an American? We don't know. In the dunk contest?

We don't know. When was the last European you seen jump 40 inches? We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. All I know is that. Which European have you seen jump 40 inches? We don't know. We don't know don't know all I know His argument if there we don't know

Be playing an American what he'll be playing he'll be going through all Americans There's a report contest half 90% of that group will be American Are you saying a none of the Europeans winning one-on-one against it? I think I know I think I got the Europeans fucked up Who's gonna be a one-on-one? Who is Luca for the back? Hey, the best four niggas in the league are European. No, that's team shit No, the best Team see Because players are you working in? Okay, I not team shit. What are you talking about? So you're saying, what makes Giannis, I mean, gosh, Nicola what he is.

What makes Nicola what he is? His skill set. So he can be, what skill set is that? Playing basketball. He know nobody can guard him. What is his best attribute? Oh my god. Passing the ball.

He can't pass one on one. He can't pass one on one. He don't need to. He can score one on one. OK, how about this? How about this? What does that have to do with playing one on one? My god Bro if this best asset is passing and ain't nobody is fucking guard this motherfucker one-on-one And he has to make him pass the ball. They have to make Because we can't So you say what the fuck does that I don't even make any sense, right? So you're saying that Graham would nothing there. So you're saying LeBron James Kevin Durant in a one-on-one net

We don't know talking about we don't know will be Paul George niggas can't guard a one-on-one to win. We know they can't Gunness can any of these niggas guard Giannis one on what we're talking about Gonna stop nigga get us in a stop in a stop. Can you stop? Said 101 I'm just saying 101. I mean, I don't know I like my chances if I'm a European cool 101 I like my chances right now the way we done where they run into the league shit wait the way no That's fine Number two three four five six seven are all gonna be a man I want that's fine. Now. Let's get to the point. It's only one American

His mind is jaded for individual sports, but Papa vishes is not cool. This mind is not jaded by one They made the same statement. So don't go with this nigga talking about one-on-one shit. Let pop said the same exact shit Now let me say the same exact show you how stupid you and Pop is. Oh, my God. Bring your stat book out. Let's talk about how stupid we are. Let's talk about how stupid we are. I was just laying.

I was just laying. I didn't say it. Popovich said it. Cool. You agree with it. Stay on your stance. I was just showing you that if this was an individual, so as basketball players, because we're a team sport, if we were individually allowed to use our dominance like this 200 guy, because he won the 200 and the 100. But nobody talked about the team relay, which he was part of, because no one give a fuck about the team.

We give a fuck about the one dominant person. Just like basketball. We care about the one dominant person, Michael Jordan. That's all we care about. He didn't play against everybody in the world. He didn't play no more. He didn't play no more. The last dance. The last dance. The last dance. All we care about

Jordan he didn't play no what does Mike have to say about the team? One person in basketball who's the best right? The team is cool the best Who's the best who? So your argument will be stupid now Oh my god We just know he's the best You be reaching man Keep reaching They just won the championship Yes they did Now you

Nolan Pop says that They can't consider themselves the world champ So they should be able to play Other champions Now I have a book of the other champions okay and you tell me if they can compete we don't know who don't know no you don't know you're all leads no you're not even letting me go go ahead Gil he was going to win. I told you. You're not even letting me go.

Go ahead, Gil. He's going to be right so bad. Whoever the Greece championship is, we're going to wipe through them, correct? We're going to wipe through them, correct? We didn't say that. Serbia, right? We're going to wipe through them, right? We didn't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Germany.

That's why he's going to do that. Hold on, hold on. Hold on because y'all keep interrupting me. Germany he's you yeah, he that's what he's gonna do The the grease champions was olympicals right Olympiakos Olympiakos Serbia, right? Whoever the fuck one in that who gives a fuck right? Germany They only got two good teams see I think y'all missing the fucking point

NBA I'm so whoever we're playing won't actually have their best player Are you not realizing that so there will not actually be NBA talent on those? Actual teams cuz they're playing during the same season. Who's the best who's the best great player girl Greek? the freak They're playing during the same season. Who's the best Greek player, Gil? Greek. The freak. Greek the freak. But he would be with the fucking Bucs. He's an NBA. Not whatever stupid-ass team.

You're not talking about the country. You're talking about the Euro championship team. Gil, you seem so triggered right now. What? He's just yelling. He seems so triggered right now. No, but he's just yelling. Damn, my nigga.

Real Madrid. Hold on. Real Madrid. His point don't make sense. His point don't make sense. Real Madrid, the Euro team, won the championship. Right? All the Spaniards that will be on the Olympic team are not there during the NBA. So when Joker or them go play this team, that team will be without no NBA players on the actual team.

Because they would not be in the tournament. We're not talking about France team, the whole country of France. We're talking about the best team in France. Not the best team. Not the USA basketball team. This is what we're saying, though. We're saying when that happens, when they go and beat all these teams, they can say that they're the world champions.

They can then say. I never said that. They can then say, we are now the world champions because we've beat all the other world leagues. That's not even an argument, though. I know it's not. He went through all that. That's not even an argument.

Okay, we're not saying that the Denver Nuggets wouldn't beat these guys. They would. By 100. You're not a world champion until you beat the world. Okay. Until then, you're just the NBA champion. The reason that we would not play a team like that, sir, is because Real Madrid, who won the championship. Real Madrid won the Euro Cup?

Yeah. The Euro League Cup. Who won the Euro League Cup? We're. Real Madrid won the Euro Cup? Yes. The Euro League Cup. Who won the Euro League Cup? We're talking about whoever won the Euro League Cup. Did you look that up? Whatever team last year won the Euro League Cup. That would be, is that AS Monaco? No.

Who? Was that Lucas' team? That's Lucas' old team? Whoever won the Euro Cup. Whoever won the Euro Cup last year would play. What? Real Madrid. I told you. So that's Luka's

club team. You're talking about an NBA team, all NBA players, playing a fucking club team that won't have Luka, that won't have the best... It's a club team. So everybody... Let's a club team. So, everybody

Five games. Let's figure it out. So, everybody that will have made the, what was that, Spain? What the fuck country is that? What? Spain? Spain. So, everybody who's on the Spain Olympic team are not on the same one

club team. We know that. There's only one NBA player that Team are not on the same one club. We know that There's only one NBA player that will be on that that we're not saying that they're gonna be listening Yeah, we know there's gonna be oh, oh you're gonna wait. You need to listen. I ever said no Yeah, he ever said the team who won the Euro Cup The only NBA player that is from that, not even on that team, maybe he's in the NBA. So when we play that team, right,

it's a bunch of fucking has-beens, a bunch of Americans that's 38, 39-year-old has-beens that's playing on the team. Yeah, we know. Right? We all play overseas basketball. Who did you play for? I played for a lot of teams.

No, name one. Lebanon. Lebanon. What was the name of your team? Hemitman. Hemitman. Y'all team can beat the Denver Nuggets? We have a chance.

No, you kidding? Now get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Y'all lose by 200. Stop. Let's move on, man. I'm not going to let my team lose by 200.

We're talking about... I'm not going to let my team lose by 200. The problem is... Any team I'm on, we got team lose by two hundred. I'm not gonna let my team lose by two hundred. Because the problem is, any team I'm on, we got a fucking chance to win. Any team I'm on, we got a chance to win. The problem is, the problem is, we assume,

when we make these conversations, we're assuming, we're looking at the Spain team and we're looking at their Olympic team. We're not looking at their individual teams that win a championship. So Luke is not winning a championship because his team sucks. We never were not going to win. So we need American. So for the Denver Nuggets to go around the U.S. to play a bunch of sorry-ass teams.

It's a waste of fucking time. We're talking about the NBA with fucking Euro. The best Euro in the country would be on the NBA team, not on the fucking team that won the Euro Cup. It'd be motherfucking C.J. Harris. It'd be C.J. Harris who played at Wake Forest. Who's the leading scorer for that team?

Was the Dream Team team a wasted time for Them to go around that's the girl like no no during that time during the time when the dream team was assembled Wasn't it a waste of time for them to go over there in the Olympics and play against them niggas? No So why did they do it? Just that would be considered though what the best team in the world representing United States to establish Dominant establish down. Okay, so they went over there knowing that they was going to lose winning the goat who's the winning the goat for the US? And since the you said you're talking about you. I'm just we're not talking about us cuz the US is still there You're talking about the team. I'm just saying the reason you just said it'll be a waste of time for the new nuggets

This do you just say the team he played for in Lebanon can be the devil? Did I say you have a chance I don't got that mentality Ain't no lay down for me. So the teams you played on in Minnesota had a chance to do what? The teams you played on. Any team I play on got a chance to win. So how many games did your teams win in the NBA? We have a chance every time we get on the court.

It's win or lose. Y'all was in last place every year. It's win or lose. No, we wasn't. No, we wasn't. Win. No, win or lose. No, we wasn't. No, we wasn't. Win. No, we wasn't.

Nigga, y'all... No, we wasn't. Why you talking to this nigga? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not talking about the Euro championship, right? Because the Euro championship team, that team will not even make an NBA roster. That's a lie. Because they're not NBA players. They're not NBA players. That's a lie. It's old has-been NBA players or people who couldn't get drafted that's on the team. There's niggas that's playing overseas that should be in the NBA. Should.

Didn't make it. No, they should be. That's why the NBA doesn't have the best league. It's niggas that's playing overseas that should be in the NBA should didn't make it. No, they should be should That's why the NBA doesn't have the best league. They say it's niggas that it's niggas that were in the league That should be it. Are you saying so you saying the NBA doesn't? Think is this plan overseas that's on the NBA right now. I agree with right now with you, but they're not going to be stars. How do you know that? How do you know that? There's NBA talent in Europe. Absolutely. There's a lot of NBA talent in Europe. So does the conversation make any sense at all?

Does the conversation make any sense when there's NBA talent overseas? It's the same thing as guys that spend four years in college. There's some guys that spend four years in college that should some guys that's been four years college playing NBA well they got to go play overseas yeah so that's what he's NBA time about can actually play against Denver Nuggets as a team.

As a team. That's not the point this man be making. He just made this point. Over a EuroLeague that have NBA guys on those teams. Brandon, did you just make this point? The best player on that team that you named, his name is DJ Ayers. He averaged 18. He went to Wake Forest four years. He went to Wake Forest.

He got drafted by the Atlanta Hawks averaged two points. He is the best player over there. When when we get washed up we go overseas and we're the best players Because the real best player is in the actual NBA I don't mean to throw shots at nobody right now. I don't want nobody to take nothing personal. Let's not act like Giannis' brother not on the books because his brother is.

Trash! He could have went to the Knicks though. He could have went to the Knicks. That should have had that job. But if he played on whatever club grease team he's on, he would be the best player. I don't mean to throw shots, but if he played on his, but if he played on whatever club grease team he's on, he would be the best player. I don't mean to throw shots, but I've seen a guy that I know

can play that has the goal. Mike James should be in the league. Now think about it. Fourth NBA is I agree with you. Right, right. Mike James, right? He's an American, right? He's an American who didn't make it here, right? So whatever team he's on, he is by far the best player on that team.

So if they won the Euro Cup or whatever team won the championship, he and the rest of his team has to face the Denver Nuggets. I know. They cannot compete because the NBA player on the roster would be playing. We play the same time. Are you not realizing? We play the same time. But, Will, you keep saying the same thing. We're not saying that. We play the same time.

But we're not saying that they can compete or not. They won't compete. So there's no point of even going over there because we've done milked all the players here. So whoever's left has to face the best team in the NBA. We're not talking about all of Spain. Right now, how about this? Just so we understand how dominant we're talking about.

Right now is the FIBA World Games, right? That means every country has the best players. There's only one country. There's only one country that's in there that don't have the best. That's America. When they look around, like Luka is representing his country, Jokers, Greek represent his country. Greek, that's not playing right on my trip. I don't know.

No, it's not playing. It don't matter. But they're representing their country. It does matter. We have, I mean, it don't matter. It does matter. Because we don't have the top 15. It don't matter.

They don't have their number one. We don't have the top 15 on our team, and we're gonna win gold. But this is why I said we should just... Their country has every best player that they can possibly have, and they have no fucking chance. So can we just do the game that I said then? The game is not the game, because you want the rest of the world. You want 100 countries

versus one. It's not 100 countries. It's not how great we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not every country. It's only a couple. It's only a couple players. It's U.S. versus the world. Yes, that's what we want. U.S. The world. Now that just proved the point. If you have

to put the world world means country by country Why the fuck are we wasting our time going to these leagues? The world's not leaving we don't try We don't we're the USA. We don't want to go every league. We don't go to your country I'm whooping your ass your country will be your as your country will be over That's why we don't want you guys want to do is you want to group each other together? Pull the best two players off of each team to face me. I mean, yeah, why not?

So how can... Why not? Then why do I need... You're sweating through your shoes. Then why do I need to go to your country? Why do I need to go to your individual country to play you? That's what we're here for. If you want to find out... No, no, no.

That's what we're saying. Take it out. Just get your... Okay, so you proved my point. Take it out. Take the whole country themselves. I've been said that. I've been said that. I've been said that. Yeah, so not one my point take it out take

The league themselves can actually beat it in the a champion Here's the question you said for four to top five players in all NBA first team right were foreign players I mean the top five players to me in the league are for 2023 first team all NBA for two top five players were international non-american players Would they be the best player in their leagues if Shay went to Canada? Would he be the best player in their leagues? If Shea went to Canada, would he be the best player in the Canadian league? Yeah, for sure. Okay. For sure. In the whole league. In the whole league. But listen, we don't want...

The whole thing is, I don't want to play against these other countries. We just want to get one game done. That's it. One game. If he's the best player in his country, what if his team don't win that league? Do they have a chance to beat the Denver Nuggets? That means that the team...

Whatever team that beat him... Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. What you're saying. The guys that's from their country. Yes. They get to play for Europe. Yeah, the whole Europe.

So guys that's playing the NBA right now. Yeah, can play for the whole Europe team. Right. And Americans with Americans. Yep. So the dream team versus the world. I now. Yeah, can play for the whole Europe team. Right. And Americans with Americans. Yep. So the dream team versus the world. I got you. That's all I'm trying.

So y'all pick our best 15. We pick our best 15. Okay, cool. I got you. Let's stop all this. Now, cool. Now, now, now. I got you.

So now that we got it. Cool. No, no, no. That's how you do this. This has been established from the beginning. Can y'all name a euro group? Can you just name it a euro group the name your team your all euro team watch this already named go No

So we got Luca Luca right we got Giannis Giannis we got him be And me. And Bede. And Bede is not. He's on the no man's land. They said you have to be able to say no. No, no, no. Bede is not. He has not been to the country. It's okay. It's okay. Hey, listen. Joel and Bede is not European.

We're going to use world. Everybody in the world. No, he said European. That's fine. We said you're not. I know. For sake of argument, he said European. But he can play France.

He can play U.S. Joel said the world. And Bede can play France and U.S. If you ain't from the United States, you can watch out. Go. Kyrie Irving, he's from Australia. We got Psy.

And then we can just go down the line. No, I need you to go down that line. Shit, Wiggins. Nah, we ain't talked about this yet, so don't keep me trying to walk the cuff. We're having a conversation, so go. Wiggins, go. I want you to say Wiggins again.

Wiggins will make this team. Oh, Siakam, for sure. Siakam will make this team. Keep going. And then we can throw in some Europeans that we never heard of. That's for sure. There's got to be one or two. Keep going. There's seven. And then we can throw in some Europeans that we never heard of. That's for sure. That's for sure. There's got to be one or two that come over here. Keep going.

I mean, I don't have 15 right now. I know you don't have 15. I know you don't have 15. I do, though. Okay, go. Go. I'm going to save this for another conversation. There's no more conversations.

This is the conversation. Them girls want that. This is the conversation. So if you have Wiggins, don't forget Murray. I'm going to give you Murray. Okay. Okay. So Okay Murray. Okay Wiggins. Uh-huh Wiggins You call it Thompson another bit You want Jordan pool? I mean, that's what do you want? Uh, Jordan Jordan, Georgia Carson. Yeah, I'll take her. Yeah. Yeah, okay

Okay, what's they will take okay they will take we had 12k no no Dylan they will take Dylan Brooks on their world team. No, you gave us Dylan Brooks. No, I gave you Dylan Brooks. I gave you Dylan Brooks. Oh yeah, I'm not gonna take them. We got a lot more than all the names he gave. No, we're gonna give you Stephen Adams. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I want them to put their team. I want you to hear the actual names, right? Four of the top five niggas in the league are on the team. So we're good. I already know what he's doing. He's like, these names don't match up with these names, so we're going to lose because of these names. These are a bunch of good players.

The U.S. got the talent. The U.S. got the best talent we've ever seen. The talent don't match up. I just think it's like this right now when it comes to talent. I just think it's like this. The talent is crazy. You guys' talent is crazy. When you talk about players who play together and we're going to win together, it's a different

conversation. Just name your players. Because you would take Wiggins. Wiggins makes your team. NBA champion. Wiggins makes his team. I'm going Wimby, Joker. Joker, Wimby. Come on.

Luca. Luca. Kyrie. Kyrie. Ben. Ben Simmons. Oh, Shai. Shai.

Murray. Murray. Giddy. Giddy. Embi. Embi. Embi. Oh, Embi.

Embi. No man's land. I said Embi. Give them Embi. They got Embi. They got Giddy. Nurkidge. Who?

Przingis. Nurkidge. Gobert. Przingis. Who else? Rudy. Gobert. Gobert. I said can be given a bit like a baby. I get it nerf each who? Precinct it's go Bear Zingas who else room where I got a lot of big got a lot of big a lot of bigs you have Patty meals Okay We got a solid guys on our Solid right? Yeah We got a bunch of solid guys on our team. It's a bunch of solid rosters. It's a solid roster. Now, those are the players that the world team will have, right?

I'm going to tell you players that can't even make our team, right? Right? Well, I know five or six of them can. Would y'all take John Moran on your team? John the way over Kyrie. No, not even fun. No, we would not We got a little bit. Okay. No, we good. We good. You take game. Nope. We good. Okay, you won't take day No, we're good. I read inside Look at Kyrie, I'm good.

Kyrie, Shia, and Jamal Murray. But you just said Patty Mills. Okay. But they wouldn't make... They wouldn't beat out Patty Mills? No. Cool. All right.

No. Now... You got Wiggins, so you wouldn't take Jimmy Butler or... Jalen Green. Kawhi. Kawhi, Paul George. None of them.

Those are not making our team. You naming niggas who don't have a ring. So no. Okay, so no. So they will take the group that they have, but if we're giving you players, you would not take Dame. No, we don't need you. We got who we got. We don't have to don't need you. We got who we got. We don't have to take who you taking.

We got who we got. You wouldn't take Kyrie. I mean, not Kyrie. You wouldn't take the second best player on Golden State. You wouldn't take Klay. But you would take Wiggins makes your team. He was like the sixth. You would take Gideon.

Gideon, you would take him. So is Klay making your team? His name is Gideon. Klay don't take him so it's Clay making your team okay so but he makes your team why does Clay make us the third option me it was number six this has nothing to do with that it's who we pick for our team now who's available right we don't need we got who we got you're taking the best players in your no we, we're taking who we like. We're taking who we like for our team. You're taking the best players that you guys have available. And we're telling you that the guys that don't even get considered for the best in our team will wipe through.

You guys have the top four bigs, and that's all you guys are thinking about. You forgot. You don't have three men. You don't have two men. We have Garth. We have Irene. We have Garth. We have Irene. We have Garth. We got Shy. We got Jamal Murray.

We have Giannis. Giannis is a three. He will play the three on that team. Giannis will play the three. He's not subbing. He's playing 48. What's up?

He's playing 40 then. He's not subbing. He's playing 48. What's up? It's only 40 minutes over. It's only 40. He's playing 40 then. It's only 40 minutes over. He's not subbing. Luka not subbing. Kyrie not subbing. We good. We good.

Y'all chill. We are good. They can't sub. You can't sub. We don't need to sub. You can't. Who the fuck is playing defense on your team? Any motherfucker.

What are you talking about? Zone up, nigga. Huh? Zone up. Bitches. Zone up. B bunch of bitches got a zone up No defense everybody you name slow as fuck zone individually and you got to put them up. You got four people You guys gonna play some defense right they You sweat you sweat over there maybe the guys you got that's gonna play some defense did y'all Did y'all name me the guy?

Number seven to fifteen. What does that have to do with anything? They're not born around this water man Book They're born here in the United States. Bookers will have trouble trying to make our team. Who? Booker. Devin Booker. Will have trouble trying to make what team? The Dream Team.

You crazy. You crazy. You're sick in your head. Give me my team. Devin Booker will not have no problem. Give me my team. Give us your team. Give me my team.

We gave you our team. Give me my team. How about this? Give me my team. Devin Booker got in trouble made us your team. Give me my team. We gave you our team. You gave us your team. How about this? Give me my team. Devin Booker got in trouble.

Who's our point guard? Who's our point guard? Huh? Steph? Steph? I mean, it's your team. You picked your team. It's your team.

I like y'all pick. Y'all pick so good. I mean, it's your team. Pick. Go. He don't want to be accountable, but who's the second best player? Your picker had to change. Who's the second best guard in America?

KD. Guard. KD, a small forward? I'm just saying, point guard, come on. Oh, okay, well, I'm putting Devin Booker at the two. But I need two, because we need three point guards. We need three point guards, three shooting guards. I don't know if y'all know how a team is built.

But we need three point guards, three shooting guards. I thought it know if y'all know how a team is built. But we need three point guards, three shooting guards. I thought it was a positionless game. Yeah, I thought that too. There's no such thing as positionless. I've never seen a point guard stick to five men and play. No, no. LeBron James. You said LeBron James was a point guard.

You said LeBron James was a point guard, didn't he? You said LeBron James was a point guard. He said LeBron James was a point guard. So it's a big man playing small guard positions. There's never a small guard playing big man positions. Devin Booker would have trouble making your team. Right, so my point guard is who? Curry and what, Dame?

Okay. And my third guard would be who? John Morant. Because they took out, you know, since y'all took Kyrie, who would be my third? John Morant, right? I don't know. I mean, I guess. I mean, that's the only guard we since y'all took Kyrie, who would be my third? John Morant, right? I don't know. I mean, I guess. I mean, that's the only guard we know.

Okay, so shooting guards. Who we got? Devin Booker. We got Paul George, Devin Booker, and Ant-Man. Paul George is a small forward. Ant-Man? No, he's a shooting guard. Ant-Man?

Paul George is a shooting guard? Yeah, shooting guard. I hope y'all know this. Shooting... So, we got... So, we got... I thought small forward. So, we have Ant-Man small for so we have it meant

was that we have Ant-Man our third Devin Booker our second and we have PG PG book and Ant-Man is ours is our three book no no I'm saying those are our three oh gross right wait wait who he's a PG over book. No, I said PG Booker and Man are Jason Tatum. I know he's small for Huh? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, You got Wiggins in your fucking team. You got Gideon in your team. You got Patty fucking Mills. We got Luka Dantzis. We got Luka. We got Patty Mills on your team.

I'm having trouble figuring out if John Moran, Wes, I'm trying to figure out are superstars. Y'all talking about Patty fucking Mills. You're talking about guys who don't win. I don't give a shit. Y'all are talking about Patty fucking Mills. And I can't. Mills you talk about guys who don't win What's wrong with Patty Neal? Patty Neal versus John Moran? Get the fuck out of here.

John Moran might not even play. Patty Neal don't even start on this team. John Moran might not even play. Patty Neal's not even starting this. Patty Neal's a bitch on the sorry team. John Moran might not even play. I see Jose Barrera. Barrera.

J.J. Barrera. Jose won. I see him stop a whole my team. What team does Patty Mills play for? What team? Can you put Patty Mills? JJ Barrera is like your team. What team he play for? What team he play for?

What team he come down to play for? Just because he's on your team. But everybody on the team ain't playing. So a lot of people are just there. I believe he's on the Atlanta Hawks right now. He's on the Atlanta Hawks so he don't sweat this much while you're shooting. You don't sweat this much while you're shooting. You don't sweat this much while you're shooting.

Trey Young what? Trey Young what? He's behind Trey Young. Wait, Trey Young what? He ain't on our team. I'm about to say Trey Young ain't on your team. But Patty Mills sits behind Trey Young and Baby Boy. I mean, Patty Mills is good. Patty Mills is off. Patty Mills is off, so he can't use that.

Let's just keep Murray, Shy, Irie. Who is that for? What's wrong with Patty Mills, though? Because if he makes your tea, that's how bad it is. Luca. Luca, Irie, Patty Mills ain't bad.

Shy and Jamal Murray. No Patty. No Patty. No Patty. Oh, Lord. Jesus. We'll keep Patty as our somebody. Y'all still got Wiggins?

For sure. Hell yeah. Wiggins. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, I got Wiggins. Hell yeah, I got Wiggins. We got Giannis. We still got Giannis.

Pete Thurlow. We still got Giannis. Pete Thurlow option on his team. We still got Yannis. He third on his team. He the third option on his team. We still got Yannis. But why would you want a bunch of first options? We still got Yannis. But why do you want a bunch of first options? Because there ain't no team. There ain't no team.

He ain't building no team. Woo, shit. He building the center. Like, what is the list of talent? The only position y'all are winning at is the center, and that's what y'all going off of. Y'all going off the three big men y'all got. That's a lie.

That's a lie. No, that's a lie. That's all y'all going at. That's the fact. Y'all going off of the center and that's what y'all going off of. Y'all going off the three big man y'all got. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's all y'all going at. That's the fact y'all going off of Joker and B- That's a lie. Y'all going off of Joker and B- The roster that he's putting together?

That's a lie. The only position y'all better at is the five. Is the five man. The point, so our guards can't compete? So Luka and Kyrie can't compete against- Our guards are going to compete. They can't compete. Yes. How about you shoot a point? How about you shoot his arm? The point is competition. So

How about you Two three four. Well, how about your two three four? Do you forget the two three and four? Three small falls do Get the two three and four Y'all best small for them go we're gonna go with Yana's We didn't okay, so don't do three so y'all see I see I. No, we didn't. Okay, so Giannis is a three. So Giannis Siakam. Wait, Siakam is trash? Giannis Siakam. No, no, I didn't say he was trash. He's trash. Damn, that's crazy. But the team we putting together.

So Giannis, Siakam, and Willis. We putting together a team to compete. These niggas compete. So Giannis, Siakam. Who else? Either Wiggins or Ben Simmons. Who? Ben at a three.

Ben or Wiggins at the three. No, I'm going with some niggas that's overseas I'm going with a couple guys that would never see you do say that. Oh, I don't know how I could go but People we don't even know I mean, that's the word. I mean, it's the word I mean them niggas are the best in Europe. Yeah, we got you a tie. You might want to wipe down wipe down for this real quick NBA NBA We didn't even say like the other Europeans I got I got

You know, they gonna do hold on they gonna do this they're gonna name somebody we don't know and we just gonna name People I'm giving you that. Oh, my God. But we ain't even got to Katie, Brian. Let's take a break. We ain't even got to them. I mean, that's fine. We know they won't win. We know we already said they won't win. We're going to beat them.

They just want to play a game. We're going to beat them. We're going to beat them. We got to make a special announcement. We got to interrupt here. Obviously, another spirited debate here on girls arena Do you said if we got to 12.5? Thousand people you hit the blunt, right?

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Trigger this nigga. So here we go. Nigga's so triggered, nigga. We're going to give you two days to let your lungs prepare. We will do it on Thursday for our final show. Carlos. Allegedly. Allegedly. Hey,

chat, I'm disappointed in y'all. Y'all trying to make a black man part of the system. You are another statistic now, dude. Another statistic. Lips turning black. Hey, chat. You see me sweating?

You see me sweating it all? We ain't broke a sweat today. I'm using it. Hey, chat. Chat, I got You see me sweating? You see me sweating it out? Chat, chat. We ain't broke a sweat today. I'm using this bitch sweating. Hey, you know, hey, hey, chat. Smoke it. Chat, I got something. I got it. Listen, we can do this.

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What the fuck going on here? You going to give the chat a little bit? Come on, write that. We want to see what the people say. We want to see what the people say. They said both. Everything is calculated. People, we want to see what the people say.

Run the poll. Run the poll. You got to know how to do this shit. Are you a poet? Gill smoker giveaway. I'm going Gill smoke just to get it started. He's the reader Yes, the chat would have not betrayed us they want him to smoke they won't give the smoke. Let's see that nigga. I Know I don't want to see that They fucked up right the chat not falling for your shit. Yeah, you right, you made a promise. Who don't want $1,000?

Somebody need rent. Somebody need to trick off on somebody. Shit, is it labor day coming? Y'all need barbecue? Y'all need drinks? Come on. I can cash out right now. They need to laugh, Gil.

They want to laugh. They here to laugh. Nigga, they here to laugh. Some things are more valuable than money, Gil. What's the next topic? The chat will not be swayed. Because since we realized zero's not that good. Patty. So just to put a final button on this,

if the National Basketball Association has the best players, it's not just the National Basketball Association, right? Because they have tons of international players, players from all over the world. But do we need to see McDonald's bring back that championship series just to prove the point that the NBA champion

is the champion of the world? No, because we can do that. We can do that. In theory, listen, in theory, what dude is saying, yes, he's correct, right? But in reality, in reality,

this is the best team in the world because the other championship teams are just teams collected with a bunch of Euro players. The best players are here. Their best player is here. Every league has players from

all over the world in their league. But their best player in a Spain team, team Madrid, they're not going to have the best player in Spain on that team. The best players in Spain, at least the top three that are NBA players,

are usually going to be here. So when we play them, they're going to be without the actual best player. The game is horrible. So we're playing against a fucking AAU team. I bet if the money was halfway the weighed the same I better be different Wow Cuz the players are going different places more talent because more talent and guys are go different places to play so say so say if A player can make ten million dollars a year overseas in China. It's a different story. No, no, no, no, not just China Just you know, then you wear any of you feel didn't that all of this play then that euro player won't come

Okay, then all American but then all the bottom line Americans here is just gonna go over there or the middle man or the middle And then and the middle and America's Americans. This is America. No, not all the time Well at the end of day it'd be the bottom feeding America No, no would not because it'd be married Americans that's playing in the league that I have to go over there Yeah, because the contract we're talking about money No, it would not be because it'd be Americans that's playing in the league that have to go over there. It'd be Patty Mills. Because of contract. We're talking about money. We're talking about money at that point. That's the only reason why the NBA is better than me.

What team does Patty Mills play for? The Hawks of Atlanta. No, his friends? Australia. Australia. He's the best player in this country. Kyrie Irving. Kyrie's not.

Kyrie Irving Kyrie Irving Gilbert He's from Australia Alright mate Who did he play for the USA I bet you wouldn't play for the USA now Cause he got strong arms But no no no

Where is he from I even allowed them I even allowed them to have Kyrie Because we tried to have this But at the end of the day Most who most of those guys got dual. The problem is the guys who can't make our USA team, they go play for their family's country. A lot of people can't make the USA team and that'll mean everybody on the USA team isn't the best. How many spots do they got for the USA team? But that's why my argument earlier was the point that the runner, he is the fastest in America and now the fastest in the world.

The individual, the best shooter in the world doesn't get to display that. The best dunker in the world doesn't get a chance to go defend his honor because we don't go over there. They don't come over. There's no game game for that the best one-on-one so kobe if there was a one-on-one tournament and kobe got to go to the olympics to win the gold for his work ethic he don't have a chance to do that so so what ends up happening is there's a gold there's a team that gets put to win the gold it's not actually the best players So the best players the guys who actually are considered the best at what they do We have to be selected to play. We got to kiss the right ass We got to wear the right shoe to be on a team to get a gold medal

That's why we don't value where you stand. No dude is coming in as an individual, but he's not he has to be placed on The team he plays for Team USA. He runs by himself. No, no, no. He runs by himself. Because it's a world game. So, unfortunately, he has to put on a USA. That's the format.

But he's with a team. No, he's not. His skill is also measured, right? The fastest time. But you can't do that for the league. You can't. No, no, no. So, for the four-by- by one they picked the four fastest guys

Yeah, but it's the fast guys based on the time right some that's measured right? Yeah with the NBA You can't say player X is better than player B because he averaged this that or whatever That's why it's a one-on-one tournament If there's a three-point contest on everybody in the world and then we all go over there to the fit now We got to play for our country because that's where we are. No Euro is beating no U.S. in shooting, one-on-one, or dunking. But what do we play? We play the game of basketball, which is a team sport.

It's a team sport. If we said that one-on-one, it would be a different sport than actual basketball. We're playing basketball. There's a four-by-four team. There's a relay. I'm a very logical thinker. He's not training for that.

He's training for his. Hussein Boat is training for his event. He is for. And the four by four. And the team event. He's forced to be on there. You know why? That's the only way he can give the other guys who run with him a fucking goal.

Because they can't beat him in the one by 100. No, bro. Because this is actually a segment of the actual sport. The four by relay is an actual segment of the sport. So you have to be a part of a team to run in that. You have to be a part of it. Put him on it. He don't have to be there. They picked the four fastest guys, though.

He don't have to be there. If he says, I don't want to fucking run in this. I got other events. But he's not not gonna do that because he's representing his country He wants to give his friends a gold medal because I'm very good beat him. I'm the best in my country. Hold on Me we us for we all were on the four by four and we're also in the one by one. Three of you motherfuckers is losing. Yes, we know. You're the best guy.

So I win the gold. So we join up so you guys can get gold. No, it's not a join up. We're a team. We came over here because we all on the same team. Wait, wait, wait. We don't come here as a team. First of all, this is the same thing.

Okay, if we're on a basketball team, right, and we all playing, all five of us, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, What I'm saying is... We're losing, though. What I'm saying is you're individual... That is individualized to team. We don't individualize to team. So I'm saying take the USA team, right? That's the team. Now, individual stuff for basketball. So the individuals can win their awards, too. Right? So like Carrie Richardson,

no one gave a fuck that she won the 4x4 100. No, the 4x1 100. No one gave a fuck that she won the 4x4 100. No, the 4x1 100. No one gave a fuck about the team. They only cared about her winning the individual one. That's just what I'm saying. The people who watched the 4x2, bro. It just wasn't popular. It wasn't in the fucking tabloid.

If she would have got silver or bronze in the 1x1 for the fastest woman in the world and then won gold as a team, she does not get the title title as fast this woman on earth because they say it's a thing about me because it's an individual The team would have been acknowledged no they want why My gosh name the other people that win NBA championships. Well the name of the runner. You don't know. No one knows. I think it's the same thing. US won. If you're not watching individuals and you're like, who won? The four about US won or China won or Brazil won. We know the team

won. Whoever was running. We don't give a fuck who was running. We just care who won. Who won? The US won. The US won. They're over there to see if the US won. Because there's no individual representing themselves over there. You come over here to represent the United States of America.

The fastest man in the 400 is there by himself. And when they ask these questions, the next question, and when they say, okay, US won, Florida, whatever. The next question is, who's on the team? That's the same thing in basketball. Same thing in basketball. Same thing in basketball. The second question is the individual. We don't have individuals.

First is the team. First is the team. Second is the individual. Because it matters. We do have individuals. Because the individuals that's on that team matter. On SportsCenter, when the team wins, right? Team, team.

Underneath that, it says, who scores the most points? Stephen Curry. It says, Stephen Curry and the Golden State Warriors won the NBA championship. That's what I'm saying. The team. I'm saying, we're listening to an individual. When he went to the Olympics, he was not featured as a 4x1 100

team guy. We're trying to figure out if he's the fastest man on earth, which is his individual 100. We understand that, but he's representing the United States. No, he's representing himself. He has USA on his thing. I know what it says because he is

forced to do that. He can't get in. He can't get in without USA. He can't get in. Because if that shit could have fucking underdog fantasy on the front of that motherfucker. He wasn't underdog fantasy. He wasn't underdog fantasy.

Underdog fantasy. It doesn't have his name on it. It doesn't have his name on it. He's representing himself. We're not allowed to we're you're not you're trying them so arguing a point that is not is the set if I can go He's written I play the USA team and I can go into the dunk contest That's what I'm gonna do. Who do it arenas from the US Representing the United States? He's not Representing arena when Vince Carter goes for the dunk contest all eyes is on him for the dunk We don't give a fuck about the USA basketball at that point

Just like no one gave a fuck about the 4100 that guy runs in the 202 It's his third championship in the three and a 200. He is a three-time champion not Yeah, not a world not world Not not Olympics right FIBA. He's three times FIBA champ. He's just gonna be quiet FIBA champ So three times FIBA champ right in the 200 which is there's no team in the 200 There's no team. It's just him. So if he didn't want to run under he'd be there by himself He ran a full body Jumping so jumping the motherfucker when you wear long jump you long jump Michael John long jump. What is the name?

What's the long jump guy? shit No, no, no best the best guy back in the day Carl Lewis is no There was no team when we went to go watch that sport everybody tuned into Carl Lewis Before they get to USA Are they Racing for USA For that

They're racing because that's where they want to race They're trying to get on the team The question was Who are they racing for? I mean, we always do things for ourselves first. That's what anything is. Not NBA. Yeah, before we get drafted.

Before we get drafted. Right? Before you train for the pre-draft, you're training for what? If you're part of a team, if you're already on the NBA team. There's football, basketball, and baseball. We're teams. I'm not talking about team people. We're not talking about them.

We're talking about the people that's individually based. Right? Before they make a USA team, a FIBA team, or whatever, who are they doing the sport for or the event for? They're doing it for themselves. Themselves. Yes or no. To make the USA team.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they're not doing it to make the fucking team. That's not what I'm asking you, sir. Okay. To make the USA team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they not doing it to make the fucking team. That's not what I'm asking you, nigga. What you asking? Who are they doing it for? He just said they doing it for themselves.

Yes. I didn't ask you if they were doing it to make a fucking team. But they are doing it to make a team. No, they're not. Okay, so if they never go...

Because that's a championship for a thing. That's the ultimate prize is the fucking United States playing the NFL. Where is the ultimate prize is the fucking United States The best shooter in the world At the all-star game

When you do the three-point contest, let me finish making my point like I was saying hold that thought right? Yeah. Oh Who are they doing it for they're not doing it to make a team They doing it to win if they have a race coming up a tournament coming up or whatever There are a fucking surprise coming up. They're doing it for themselves and that they're not doing it for the USA So what's the other gold in in listen feeling all that shit the living is every fucking four years now what are they doing for the previous three years now there's the championship that you want to qualify for and how do you make it to get there make it to the you're racing against the qualify to get there who do you other people thank you okay from other places thank you from ready to get the qualified to get to who do you other people other? Thank you. Okay from other place Oh, thank you from other places the United States

Against other people here right against other countries But when he beat those people when he beats those people what happens he goes right I don't know what happens and then when you get to the championships what happened they have to come pick you up What happens when you win the championships, what happens? They have to come pick you up. No, no, no. What happens when you win the championships? You become a guy who can now play and run on the United States team. Because they have to come pick you. That's what happens when you win, win, win. We want you to run for us at the United States.

This is what I trained for. I trained to go well for this. Now, who is Steph Curry? Now, let's go back to you. Steph Curry is considered the best player, the best shooter in the world. I haven't seen him in the world games do a three-point shooting contest. Because they don't have one. Exactly.

My fucking point the whole time. So, do we need to make one? Do we need to make one? Do we need to make one? Do we need to make one The problem is it's an individual an individual mindset Talking about something that's part of a team. We don't get We don't get to use our dominance individuals to win awards

Vince Carter being the best dunker, he don't get to win goals every year. There's no prelims every year. Because they never created a dunk contest. Exactly. If they did do that, he would have to then go up against other people. Exactly. That's what we've been saying. Exactly. That's what we've been saying.

We're listening to an individual who gets to be individualized. He has an individual thinking and he's judging team shit when his brain is stationed off individual. His championship is there. Us basketball players, our championship is not the fucking Olympic game. We don't give a fuck about the Olympic game. We do not care about a gold medal because it doesn't change

our careers. We don't get in the Hall of Fame because we got gold medals. So why are they so mad then? We do not be considered because the reason that an NBA player is mad is because an individual who gets to play for himself

Well, that's not his fault. That's not Shut the fuck up He's not allowed to have an opinion about it. Speak on an individual sport. No, no. So think about it. He gets to go to Olympics and win three gold medals. 100 by himself. That coins him the fastest in the world.

Okay, okay. Then he gets to jump with a group. With a team. With a team. And then he gets his 200 as individual. Okay. Win. So he still plays a team sport though

He still has but he does Let's take him out of the the the the relay so he gets to go win a 100 by himself and he gets a 1 in 200 so he gets to leave there with two goals. That's right. I know that for the US I did that for the US I did that best player on the planet Earth Jordan right bird, Magic, Kobe, fucking Shaq. When they go to the Olympics, this is a team thing. They don't get to go there and be by themselves.

If there was a dunk contest, Jordan gets to go by. Because that's not a sport for you. That's not a sport for you. That's not a sport for you. That's why I'm telling you, shut the fuck up as an individual. That's why I'm saying shut the fuck up as an individual because you get to go for yourself and we are forced to be a team.

And we're not... We're not privileged. We're not privileged to be picked. That's not what he was saying though, Gil. We have to be picked. But that's not what he was saying though, Gil. We have to be picked. The best players in the NBA are begging to be there to get a win to gold. Our talents don't get us automatic. His talent gets him the gold.

Our talents don't. But that's not what he was saying. No. He's saying it from a selfish standpoint. But that's not what he was saying. Yes, he is. No, he was saying the United States and the NBA

are talking about world champions when you don't play against the world. Because the world sucks. So, again, look, that's great. I already said that. But that's not, that's what he's saying. He's saying that the NBA champions are the NBA champions.

And Pop said the same shit. I don NBA champions. And Pop said the same shit. I don't care what... Pop said the same shit. I don't give a fuck what a motherfucker say because they're not thinking all the way through that when we take our championship team, if he takes his first team and he goes and plays whoever the fuck won their

division championship, they cannot compete with a NBA... They cannot compete with the fucking bottom team. Yeah, because the money ain't right. We're not talking about money. Money has a lot to do with it. Money has a lot to do with it. Where's the gavel, bro?

Where's the gavel, bro? Will, Will, Real Madrid, the champions in Real Madrid, beat the Houston Rockets. Right now? Yeah.

Fuck yeah. Fuck yeah. Didn't Luka and him just beat OKC like two, three years ago in a scrimmage? Mm-hmm. Yes. Who? I think Luka. Yeah, when Luka was 16.

No, wait, no, no. Wait, no. Didn't the Lakers lose to one of them teams over there? I think the Sixers might have recently if I'm not, unless I'm smoking crack. Yeah. But, all right, all right, all right. We did about a good hour 10 on that. Very spirited.

I swear to do your shirt, but you got the idea. Houston stinks. Everybody, hell no. Houston fucking stinks. And so is Real Madrid. Shit, they beat Houston. Shit. They beat Houston. Ha, ha, Madrid see there be Houston. She is Houston

They'll be Houston first of all, they First of all, they way too physical. There's way too many young over there. He's the best Nigga who can I move money. That's right. Move it around. Move that thing around. Move that thing around. Talk about it. Move it around. Get off the ball. Let's talk about the ball. Get off the ball over there. Let's talk about those points in the NBA.

And he think he going to beat. Oh, shit. That means it's time to go. Hey, back to team 38. That's how you know the team's sorry. Hey, get off the ball, bro. The best players are 38, 39 years old. Move it. Move that bitch.

Get off the ball, bro. Get off the ball. Get off the fucking ball. Move that bitch. The best player in Greece who just so happens to play for the Milwaukee Bucks. Giannis did an interview with the New York Times. Said he's not signing his extension with the Bucks unless everybody's locked in. Saying, quote, I would not be the best version of myself if I don't know that everybody's on the same page. Everybody's going for a championship. Everybody's going to sacrifice time away from their family like I do. And if I don't feel that,

I'm not signing. That wasn't a good yada. I didn't want to go too much. We got niggas up trying to fight us. But you got no. You got three brothers. No. I did that deliberately. I don't want Alex. I don't want the Nassus.

There's some big Greek niggas. I don't want them running up. But no, we have to see these people in the streets. Now I got to go to Milwaukee. I knew I should. I got to go. I got to go to Pfizer shirt.

What's that shit? You said I knew I should have. I got to go to Pfizer. See, y'all get stared up and down. Why? The NASA's got to go handle his light work. Get the cuts out in Greek.

I don't know. Not shit. Y'all niggas say. I don't speak that language. But nonetheless. But I agree with him. So should the Bucks be concerned with Giannis' comments about his future with the team? Brandon, we'll start with you.

You're our resident Bucks expert. Bucks is six. I mean, you know, shit, you're on the clock. You know what time it is. Like, you know, once you become a champion, I feel like if you become an NBA champion, that's all you know. So if it's not on that level and things ain't clicking around the organization and things like that, I mean, you know, you got to do what you got to do. But Milwaukee's, I mean, that's just a sign of saying Milwaukee's on the clock.

So Milwaukee obviously got eliminated by the Heat in the first round. I ain't going nowhere, though. It's still Bucks and Sixers. It's still Bucks and Sixers. They still got the clock. So Milwaukee obviously got eliminated by the Heat in the first round. I ain't going nowhere though. It's still Bucks and Sixers. It's still Bucks and Sixers. They still got the plug.

Still up at Carson, still hanging around in the local area. But just the point being Giannis got hurt last year, so that contributed largely to them losing in that

first round. So how much responsibility do you have to put on himself in this situation because they need him to win a championship?

I think it's about being healthy. They got Adrian Griffin over there, a new coach, new system, so... But the thing is, they have their quarterback. They have Chris Middleton, they have Drew Holiday, Bobby Portis, Brooks, so... I mean, they have the same guys that they won it with from before, so...

Hopefully with this new system and with Adrian Griffin coming in there, you know, we can change things around. You still got your same take that you had before? Okay. That's too triggering. No, I feel like what you just said, right, it's like if they brought the whole team back, then what is he talking about?

Who is he talking about? What is the problem if they brought everybody back? What is the issue? Is he talking about long-term deals for them? Is he talking about, you know, we need to keep them around longer? And then if you say the time's up, it's day on the clock.

It's like, all right, well, y'all lost the first round. Y'all lost a coach. You're gonna have to take some time to adjust to this new coach. If this season is not successful, what are we gonna do? Well, also, too, guys are getting older. Chris is older. You know, Drew's, what, almost gonna be probably 35,

34, 35. Brooke. A lot of these guys, they could be out of there in a year or two. I think that's probably where it comes down to. Giannis has a player option 2025, 2026. Drew Holiday has a player option at the end of 2024.

Middleton, player option 2025. Brooke Lopez, last year his deal is next season, so he'd be a free agent after 25. Bobby Portis has a player option 25-26. Pat Connaughton has a player option 25-26. So, yeah, I'm just trying to figure out, you know, who is he really? But my thing is, so, he gets hurt, right?

He's in and out. Was surrounding... Chris Middleton was laboring. Yeah. We all know that, so that played a factor in it. But his thought process is probably, is this enough? You know what I'm saying? Like, what we have currently moving the next few years,

is it enough? You know what I'm saying? What are we doing? You know what I'm saying what are we doing? I'm saying are we adding pieces are we making moves? Are we trying to do this? We just of course you want two guys who you Wanted with before you want them to be I'll continue part of the success that you continue on to that you envision but at Your friendships and those relationships

can't mean more than winning. I get it. But if you're about winning, fuck yeah, if you're about winning, you might have to cut ties. You know what I'm saying? Like some people, it's an old term. Some people in your life for a reason

in the season, right? You might have to move on. I'm just saying. I like the guys they have. I'm a big... I like Giannis. I like the Bucks as a team. people in your life for a reason in the season, right? You might have to move on. I'm just saying. I like the guys they have. I'm a big, I like Giannis. I like the Bucks as a team. But business is business.

Business is business at the end of the day. Are you saying they need to find? I ain't saying they need to, but I'm saying that this is probably his thought process. Who, Giannis? Yeah. It's like not necessarily saving his teammates, but more so looking for some better looking for some other options I like just you know if this means I'm just You got a guy like Dane that's mm-hmm We all know this part of this grown in Portland like shit. He available shit

I like the guys we have like but I a shit if I can have Dame for Drew and Chris I That's all I'm saying our relationship I'm cool does not like we won together but Businesses business. That's all I'm saying You were honest with you you want them to make that do if that was something that came up you give away drew a Chris For a day, it don't matter No, no what I'm saying is yeah, like when this we got this it was a there was a statement right and the statement was that What he's doing was loser mentality. No, it was not that that was not the statement

I didn't even I wasn't even gonna say you I was just saying that the statement was this was loser mentality because he wants out and People don't understand this he's won He's tasted winning you can see that he is a winner. He wants to win. He wants to get better Yeah, so he's doing what Kobe did right? What are we doing? What are we doing? Are we on the same before I sign this thing? What are we doing here What are we doing? Are we on the same? Before I sign this thing, what are we doing here? I don't want to be Allen Iverson. I don't want to be Charles Barkley. Even though I got

a ring, I want to win multiple because that's what the legacy is built on. So before I sign, we need to all sit down and make sure we're all going in the same direction. And people don't understand that when Kobe signed his extension and then they got rid of the team,

that's when he said, 2007, I want to trade. Y'all tricked me, motherfuckers. I want to trade. Either trade me or get the team better. And then that's when they traded Brungan,

Paul Gasol, and then they won two championships. But that's where he, he don't want to be the dude that we're going to rebuild and then then you're gonna get rid of these guys We rebuild and I'm just sick sitting here losing my career and y'all selling out every seat because of me Yeah, right. So he's using his leverage instead of saying he's just using his leverage in a different way in a different way

Yeah, they're different way than smart what what James trying to do or what a day like it's just a different way Yeah, you're not going in strong arm of these people. I'm saying because they still have the upper hand They still could you work for somebody? Oh, you got to do your fucking job But yeah, what are we doing? Like to both of you point like they're on the clock. Mm-hmm. Like we got two years. Y'all got two years We just show me Show me that we still competing for championships. And if you don't do that Then we know what the end result on me

Well back in the basement. Mm-hmm So five five or six weeks ago NBA memes posted a tweet. They said the last two remaining loyal players in the league. They don't make them like this anymore. It was a photo of Giannis and it was a photo of Steph together. So Clay and Draymond is not... Okay. But I'm saying, but Giannis quote tweeted with the prayer hands basically saying that he agreed with that. Now here we are five,

six weeks later and he's saying fuck all that loyalty shit. And we're not... Dame is still on the team. It was it was a sweet I'm just saying okay. I'm just Echoing this you know figure out you know, but you're honest engaged with it, and he could have quote So he'd been like what about damn what about?

What about Jeremy he could have named bunch of? Players yeah, but they're not as big as those two That's why. See how it goes? And you think Giannis is... We only care about certain... We only care about certain... I'm getting my Klay Thompson on.

We only care... I know, but you see how it is? The world only care about two players. Just to say that Giannis engaged with that tweet. He doesn't often engage with tweets on Twitter, so that's something he saw and engaged with. So do you feel like Giannis is talking to players on the team, talking to Bucs management, or talking to both with these comments? Who?

Giannis. Everybody. Everybody. There's management. There's more management than players. There's management. There's management. Ownership, management.

They got new owners. It's clock, baby. It's clock. Totally. Ownership. Even if they win the championship, they still on the clock. Still on the clock. Still feet to the fire, though. Because, hey, I don't want to win a championship and you still on the clock still on yes to steal feet to the fire though

Cuz we're way I want to win a championship. He traded everybody. I was like fuck that Yeah, is he 30 yet is the honest 30? I don't think 27 28, but let me double. Yeah. Yeah like Cuz that next deal five six years like nah Cuz y'all plan on having me here and keep me here. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, I'm 28 turns 29 in December. Yes Natalie My god this boy ain't 30 Who look out NBA man It's scary. I just

They need some more around I think. It's my personal opinion. But do you think that squad last season, if Giannis is healthy, what's their ceiling? I like it. Was that a championship? I mean, that was a championship level team. If they're, I mean.

With him, yeah, you got. Him and Middleton healthy. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. The way they defended, all that shit, equally, yeah. How many games did he play in that series. I think he Played one miss like two three, I believe it miss like two games We've already established like three times the boy wouldn't know I'm just I'm asking like he did he play two games? He played two games, right? I play more than two three. He played three games. So if he was healthy all of those games Would they still have won the series? Yes. Yes

Do you disagree? Hell yeah. Confidence coffee? How many full games did he play? One? Three, I think. He got hurt. He got hurt the first game.

He got hurt. He just said he played three games. He played three games. If I'm playing a game and I get hurt, I'm not playing. That's a game. Did he come back and play? He had to miss three games. So he played.

I thought he missed two and three and came back for four and five. But played part of one, too, if I'm not mistaken. But let me double check. If the ball go up, jump ball, you come down and roll your ankle, nigga. That's a game. No matter how many minutes you play. So he played. Yeah.

So game one, he only played 10 minutes. Missed game two and three, played 38 minutes game four, played 42 minutes game five. And they got swept. Gentlemen. Four-one? Yeah. They would have won seven.

They won game two without him. They would have won seven. They lost game one because he's out. They won game two and then they lost game three. Three, four, five. You go seven. No, I wouldn't have. They would have swept him. Seven. You go seven. Seven what? Okay, so they won game two, right?

Well, I heard you. I heard you clearly. I heard you clearly. They lost game one because he got hurt. I heard that. So that was 2-0. Yeah. Right? 2-0. Then going back to Miami. Yeah, but they're not winning the Milwaukee. Now he's healthy in Miami. That's winning was too old. Yeah, right to to to zero then going back to Miami. Yeah, now I'm not winning Now he's healthy in Miami. That's winning game three also Yeah, they're probably game four in Miami because he didn't play there either. I heard you clearly. Oh, I just said Miami and seven

Yeah, they're a good team. Yeah, but with him with Chris Middleton healthy Would they're good? I like them and then Adrian Griffin coming in like I like what he is mentality Defend I don't think they gonna lose nothing defensively for a scheme in and Say if we get the thing is this I think it's a hell they got stay healthy if we get the 15k But I think smoke yeah, I think they get better. I think if we get the 15k it's a rebuke the smoke young people Why though Gil why though to me that explain why the home why that can make it make sense We said 15k you gotta do some you say 15k we settled on two five

No, I'm just I'm just saying if we get the 15k. I know I don't know cuz we just got popping Alright grief I know because we. There's 63 people sitting with me to smoke, man. It is... Y'all just evil. 63%, man. Woo, let's get this thing to 75%. It gets to 75% you got to smoke. So we talking about...

We did our job today, B. We did our fucking job, bro. This nigga's sweating. I bring it. 12-5 in the chat because this nigga's sweating. I bring a blunt, too. We all bring one.

Give him a shot. Give him a... His angel does, yeah. That's too much. Give him a G. in the tech because this nigga sweat Give me a cheetah. I'm It's just a small joke. This Gil is a small joke. You ain't got to hit it like a smoky. We're going to bring the dinner for you on Thursday. This ain't too does. And the chicken cool crazy. Hit my head, bust my head down. Y'all got to sit there and be like,

damn, we shouldn't have had it. The worst thing that's going to happen is you're going to take an earlier nap. That's it. You're going to be hungry. You're just going to take an earlier nap. You might eat some chips You know them cakes you like you definitely wake up hungry, you know the cakes you like Wrong with your you go gain a little tip pal. I'm all stressed out now

It ain't like like so you own those things, you heard, you been around. It ain't like you're doing one of them hardcore drugs. It's exactly like that. It's exactly like that. You ain't going to be addicted after your first time or nothing, dog. Did you watch Snowfall? Did you watch Snowfall, Franklin at the end? That's how you're going to look at the end.

Franklin, that's Snowfall. You're going to be like, Franklin, that's Snowfall. I got you, dog. We had it, man. We had it. we had it we was right there it was right me in the chat we was doing so good Like I believe like Your names he won't show That 15K today. No, it wasn't 15. That's why. It crossed all you saw?

We crossed 15? We need 20 for Thursday. Last one. Yeah, Thursday we're turning up. Five. I got some nice-ass hoes coming on Thursday. You got to say three-oh-fours, man. You can't say that on YouTube, man.

Three-oh-fours. We got some things going on. The work. We got the work coming, too. Come on, Joe. Come on, man. You got to keep it together. Joe having a heart attack.

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Everybody got to make up with the WORK promo code. If you or somebody you know has worked, call the underdog hotline. Damn. Each one to each one. Help each other. But let's talk a little bit more about Giannis. So you like this squad. We all like this squad.

What do you think? You mentioned Dame. I think they need just some young dogs. But that would require making some moves. So do you see, they've kind of got that big three with Drew in Middleton. Do you see that for the long term of this squad to make Giannis happy or does it come to a point where look I like y'all but shit. It's business. It's you or me. Because look, just because we won one right. Just say if they have another first round

exit this year. Just pipe it that they have another first round. No, they got to make some moves. I think the same results, healthy team. We think we exit early this year, then you got to go back to the drawing board. Well. Yeah, we got to lift the hood up in this bitch. You know what I'm saying?

We got to lift the hood up in this bitch To build on have they been dominant though Like have they been playing a dump as a dominant team to be like we can keep this shit together and make you happy I mean shit last year they started off 13 and oh, yes Yeah, when you're breaking it up You're gonna basically add drew and Middleton in the package for whoever. Some young dogs. Now, let's say they do that for Dame. Yeah.

Is Dame and Giannis good enough to win the championship? In the East? With Portis and Brooke. And then, like you said, go get some young dogs. You're number two and you're number three. Unless you get two pieces back, that can really... Yeah. Do you add assignments to that?

Like I said, you got to lift the hood up. You know what I'm saying? You add assignments. You know what I'm saying? You got to lift the hood up. Shit, you got to, hey, timing belt. God, that's old. Fucking alternator.

Okay, we need to tighten this shit up. Okay, this bitch needs some new brakes. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what you Done. Yeah, I mean like you got to go back to the drawing board if that's the case, you know I mean like you really got to evaluate Okay, we get these okay. We traded this for this But like I said, I got to we got to get some new dogs in it. I gotta get some young

Vet I'm not vet NBA, but guys has been around three four years. That's no I'm saying Well, what you're making a whole lot of money that still want to, you know what I'm saying? Is it a team that you add a piece to outside of making a big trade like that? Like you keep the core and you add a free agent that can fit that piece to try to take you over the top. But what is the position? I'm saying, but what Money Man been overseeing the whole time. It's all about the money at the end of the day. You what position I'm saying but what money man been over here saying the whole time But what it's all about the money at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying?

It's about who could take who would take who would take less to be on that team if you have to switch out one player In a starting lineup. Who is that for the books? Mm-hmm Mmm-hmm keep everybody right now. Who was the star man that so drew Chris Chris To keep everybody right now. Who was the starting line-up? So Drew, Chris, Giannis, Bobby, and Bobby. Bobby started. Bobby off the sixth man. Was it Grayson was starting? Grayson Allen starting.

Oh, man, that's fucking easy. Well, that's obvious. Ain't PJ on that team? You're not making enough bread, though. Where's PJ at? But Grayson in the last year of his deal was making nine mil this year. Yeah, but I'm just thinking was like I said then that's when the guys that's getting paid the big bucks in the front office Gotta do they fucking job. Yeah, no, I'm saying so new head coach coming in this year. How much

Wiggle room do you think Adrian Griffin has obviously honest had to sign off on this? Yeah, like they weren't just gonna hire the coach and I talked to honest about it He had to sign off on it. But how much it seems like it's a win-now situation. So this is what he's walking into as a rookie head coach. To be honest, he's going to get credit if he goes to the second round.

But is that good enough to keep Giannis happy? Probably not. Probably not, but he keeps his job. I mean, it's like, we're not, you're talking about you inheriting a team that won a championship that started off 13-0, right? Player went down, player get hurt, right? So you're talking about a team that is actually good, right? This can be the sleeper team like Denver was.

Everybody healthy, nobody's paying attention to them. Everybody gets back healthy, and then this coach has his dominant team and it just go with milk and like he's actually sitting there like yeah I did all this shit yeah hold up buddy yeah you know so and I would like to be in that position that's a hit What? Line this up for me? Step into this? I don't know. Just, hey. Like Steve Kerr. Like Steve Kerr. It's like dating a NBA's girlfriend that they broke up, right? Yeah.

He left. You coming in like, this is a nice ass place. Yeah. I'm really happy here. You got a pool table in here. You got 12 bathrooms. 12 bathrooms. Damn, she got seven kids running around in here.

Damn, she got seven kids. You don't mind seven kids. You got an indoor outdoor pool. You got a little daycare room over here. I ain't never seen a wine cellar. You got a wine cellar? This is nice. I'd love to be that type of girl.

You just walk in. This is nice. Is this toilet seat warm? Where y'all get this from? Hey, that's how I be, too. Where y'all get this from? Where y'all get this from? Man, they got a fucking toilet seat warm, dog. Man, the floor is warm. Floor is heated.

I'm really happy here. I think about that trainer who was named Shottie at the shack. Yes, crazy. Man, they got 37 bedrooms. Man, it's a jackpot. We can train anywhere. Man, it's a jackpot. We can trade anywhere. I would have been waking up, yes ma'am, yes ma'am, what you need ma'am?

Trash? What you need ma'am? Take out the trash? You want me to take out the trash? Done. Done. I'm going to go wash the car. I'm washing the car.

I'm going to go wash the car. I'm not losing this. She needs something done. Been done already. Already done. Already did it. Already did it. It's did it. I already did it. It's on the schedule. I already got it. He just cleaned a random shit.

He cleaned a random shit. Toilet paper. I'm good for what y'all say. I'm good for what y'all call me. She done cleaned it twice already. I'm not losing this house for nobody. She get out the shower, put her dirty clothes in the dust. She throw them in the wash and shit.

Right away. Right away. I'm happy here. Man, you like a dope. I don't care what you say. That's Griffin next year. I don't care what. Giannis, here you go, Giannis.

Here's your towel. Here's your water. Give me 13-0. I don't give a shit. What? So Giannis said there's no failure. His only step is success. That's it.

What steps does he need to take in his game this season? I think it's about... Too late. I think it's just about... You don't need... You can't add anything? Amir, right? It's too late.

What? It's just never too late. What if he'd been working on it already? I just need him to slow down. Yeah. Because he... Slow down, take some... Because he running over at least...

He averaging at least two and a half charges a night I'm saying any stay in fucking fire trouble because of it. I mean when the game be on the line sometime But I'm doing it to my fucking bitch. He got five fouls like yo So he in trouble all the time nigga cuz but it's two to two and a half charges charges the game Yeah, he's running over these running. I didn't even get that You're gonna be honest Career high for toner was a game last season. Yeah, and the mufflers are charges Yeah, so did about three of us and we can say two of them are charred all the more charges

They're also 31 for low down and transition slow down and take and take time off. Like like do get his body together more Can I take more than 15 games? Oh, yeah 65 jet one thing that we're not considering with the Euro players is Right now like we when we're working on our game and trying to add something we do it in the summer Well, fortunately for a player like him. he has to play for his country this summer. He didn't have to, right? He didn't. But normally he would do it.

So it would be hard for him trying to qualify for the Olympics. So he has to really work. He would be working on his game. Sometimes those guys have to try to qualify for the Olympics. Then next summer, they're in the Olympics. So, you know, sometimes he's not going to be able to work on his game due to country obligations. I know he's saying that it's too late, but what would he have brought to the game this season? Why is it too late?

I think if he pulls it like a KD, right? KD's sure one and a half, two threes, maybe a game. Mid-range. I think if he pulled up, going real hard and stopping, pulling up at the free throw line, working on just boom, boom, boom, boom, pulling up. That's what I'm saying. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Because everyone's going to back up anyway and just work on a pull-up.

Like, that's all he needs to do all summer. I think so. Post-up, face-up, mid-y. Face-up. pull up like that's all he needs to do all summer i think so he'll start running over face up midi face up but that's but that's but that becomes the following year but this year right now coming full speed pull up boom because everybody's backing up sitting in the lane you can get he can get easy shots just that he missed it they turn around go back and try because he was working on it and it was so deliberate you knew what he was about to do. Yeah. But there's an adjustment for that, though, right? If he just give it up early, when he get the ball, instead of bringing it up coast to coast like he been doing, getting those charges, give it up early.

Run down, get to your spot, get it back. But he be down there before them. That's what I'm saying. Give it up to Drew. Drew got to run faster. But what I'm saying is he don't have it yet. That's what he has to train on, so he's only using what he's good at still. As far as what?

Him giving the ball up when he get it? And getting the post? No, not even the post. Just getting down there without having to have that. What he's saying is slow down. That's because he got the ball. Give it up. Go down and get it.

But he's like a train. He needs his momentum. Yeah, and I think him. So he needs to be coming. Everybody's moving backwards. There ain't no change of speed with him. So you're throwing that bitch up, though. Like if you drew, you running. It's like him and J.K. needs to be coming in. No change. Ain't no change of speed with him Yeah, you throwing that bitch up though Like if you drew you running his like him and Jake it like throw that bitch get down

And what are you your own mother running full speed all three-point line? No that shit Listen, man That's what got him in Vito. So yeah If he had I said he got to just totally take it out again But I'm saying he needs to learn like change of speed He can do that shit's on it. They're like pull up at times Remember that one year where I don't know why what happened that one year when Westbrook came back with that mid-range in OKC Yeah, just pull up. Stop and pop. He was shaking people just on the stop Yeah, and he was making it and then all of a sudden he went away from him, but that's all he needs that

Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, and I think him catching the ball In them spots that in 300 three four hundred a day. That's tough. Don't use seven foot. Just just boom Yeah, boom just working on just using that momentum. Just stop it and pop it Other than that, I mean you use the same game. You just added something to it Like when we talk about adding something this anybody assumes that, like, I'm never going to lose what I already had. He's not going to lose his Euro. Yeah. Like, he's not going to use the bully style.

Just add it to this style. Next year, because you already have this, add the post-up. So all summer, just work on it. So now people try to anticipate the... I feel like a euro That's what happened to Amari though. Like when Amari adjusted his game He took his stopped his bully game when he went to New York. He started hitting that midi Before he had a surgery though before he had a surgery

He was still in with Phoenix before he got traded. He was still on the bully shit I know that doesn't send it But he started hitting that jumper. He fell in love with the jumper. No, that's because he couldn't. Yeah, because he couldn't do it. He couldn't do it no more. He couldn't do it. So he had to adjust it.

And that's what I'm saying. Before something forces you to do it, add it to your game, right? Before you wind down and get old. Like when Jordan got the fadeaway, it's not because Jordan fell off. It's not like he couldn't get to the basket. He just added it to his game. Yeah. And it took away from some of those hits. Yeah.

To your point, Shia, like adding like the little mid-range shit, I think him getting to like fucking so long and athletic, man. Fucking like jump hooks and shit like that Like them little floaters Get on that motherfucking Boom boom and he cuz who gone nobody. There's fucking two people in NBA that can block it. Yeah Himself Rudy go I was saying about KG, himself, Rudy, I'm saying there's only two people that can get to it. If he get to his face the mother fucker up, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

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Them yourself them yourself. Yeah, that's tough because it's a code trainers, though? No. What about the trainers? Because you go... You have to be self-aware. Who's paying to train? Huh? Who's paying to train? You know what I'm saying? You have to be really self-aware of your game. Like, yeah, I won the MVP.

I did it. I did it this way. But eventually, right, I'm going to slow down. They're going to get used to this. Let me add something. Let me add... Like, I wasn't a post-up guard I added it because I went to go watch Jason King posting up

To my good who had it in the office who had it in you off and I didn't use it But when you added your game, you knew that this element of your office whenever I got a chance to post a nigga Yeah, I was just like Kobe in the triangle Kobe got better because he knew his options in the triangle where I'm going to get the ball in the wing, elbow, or mid-post. And I'm going to get better at these three positions, but in the meantime, I'm going to get my middie, my left, my right. I'm going to add these other elements that if I need to get to these spots

outside of the offense, I'm good at it. But as I said, I watched J. Kidd in the playoffs, right? And I see him chin cut into the post. Absolutely. So that whole summer, I'm practicing that same movement, posting up and working on my post game. So now when I go into the CZO coach, can we add that chin down? Drop that shit.

I want the drop. And that's what I'm saying. The other stuff, the flare, the step back, the cut. I got that. Now this extra add changes everything. Because you've been working on it. And that's what I'm saying is the other stuff the flare to step back with cutting. Yeah. Yeah. I got that Yeah, right now this extra ad changes everything I've been working on now and that's what I'm saying Like I do have a nice harder to defeat way hard That's all I'm saying is like no one told me I needed to do that I just watched another player use it and they Dublin and doing that and he's spinning and he's pumping. Oh shit Like he was just saying about his post game if they was to do the cross screen come across

Him and he post oh, mm-hmm It's his left much is that the blame on just the offensive styles now and teams mirroring each other shooting way too many threes and Doing things like that in terms of the impact on the system It's you have a system man. Listen systems are manipulated by the best players Yeah, if you're the best player, you're gonna always manipulate to try to figure out where you can get your shot. So as a player, you still have to be aware of your offense to understand where you can get more buckets. If there's an offense. Or your system.

Like, I'm just, if I'm coaching Kevin Durant, my system don't involve him. I'm saying because he's so efficient. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have to run, like... You don't have to run an offense. He fits wherever... He fits wherever... Yeah.

It doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? A lot of the guys that... No, most fucking 99.9% of fucking NBA need that. Yeah. He's here with that shit. Your best players don't need... Most best players don't need the offense,

the system of the offense, in order to be who they are For guys like Giannis need a system Another way you play basketball you don't need a fucking system So if we start if we stop the transition, right you say you need to add to this game, right? It's totally safe. We slow it down If we slow it down, right like you said like this slow down a little bit right to stop the turnovers we slow it down, right? Like you said, just slow down a little bit, right? To stop the turnovers. You got four a game, right? So if we slow that down, that means that we're not now going to have to implement a system for you

to counter getting those buckets over turnovers. They got plays for him. They got a system. I got to put him. That's what I'm saying. They don't have plays for him right now. You got plays for him. They got plays for KD.

They got plays for Book. We got this system we're going to fucking run at time, but we got this place. Yeah, he got a playbook Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta run this Johnny's got a fucking playbook. Gotta run. We got this right here Oh, yeah, this this here we got all this shit over FM and the rest of you motherfuckers run flat But that's what y'all saying. He got it He got to get better and add that to his game so we can run that. Y'all run floppy every fucking trip and when I need a bucket

we're going to run this drop. Sometimes, you know, when we talk about the younger that is coming. It's like talking to your kid, right? You're trying to you've already seen the ending of what he is. You've seen players of that stuff

You know what the endgame is you're trying to stop them from Being the same. Yeah, right it comes off as hating. Mmm. I'm saying with your attributes MVP MVP champion if you add the Tim Duncan in it, who do you become? Giannis with Tim Duncan Fundamentals and you start adding all glass where you become a whole nother you become a whole nother animal Absolutely, right, you know and bead if you worked on getting your ass energy, right Run in five miles really saying fuck that I to train to, I'm exhausted every single day.

What does that in me look like? If you had Giannis' energy, what does that look like? And you say, oh, I'm going to look like this. That's what I see. Do it. I'm not hating, motherfucker. Listen to what I'm saying and apply it. That's why I don't consider.

You can't say, I would never say someone's hating on me. You say, oh, you don't go left, you don't do this. Thank you. Now I'm going to add that. Add it to my game. Now what else I don't do, motherfucker? Continue to help. Step back.

Your hater is your best guide for actual greatness. Because he's gonna try to figure out every way to poke at your game. So if he's poking at my game, I have the blueprint to clean my game up. But we're so into our feelings that when someone says, oh, fuck that, I ain't listening, you hating at it. But you're still doing the same thing.

You're not improving, right? If I say you can't post up and you spend a whole summer at your post up now you like you say yeah MVP I'm averaging 40 and I will she ain't gonna mid-range though. She's or they need none Then you had the mid-range now you average in 50. Yep. Well, she it's always gonna be something you don't pass the ball Yeah, now you got that triple-double. I guess that's what a that's what a real hater does. I'm not sure enough. Yeah, he gives you a blueprint Yeah, yeah, but you can't blueprint of being great That's a that's a rabbit hole of criticism though Like we all feed into that criticism to say alright We're gonna prove you wrong

But it's a certain threshold that you don't have to continue to go down that rabbit hole like in be like At a certain point if he can get that energy It's like there's not a lot more we can criticize you on then it's like Shaq and Chuck Like these are two guys that are like a look man. We telling you you need this these two little things and he go and fix That shit. It's like how much more can they criticize him? Right? And now he's like, what now? What now? What now? That's what it should be. What now?

What now? Tell me. What's next? So, last question for y'all. We look at Giannis, looking around the league. Which star would you love to see Giannis pair with that you think would bring the most out of his game? Steph Curry.

Giannis and Steph Curry. Just a different type of pick and roll we ain't never seen. Him, Dame. It's Giannis. I mean, like, you're talking about a guy who played the hardest in the league, damn it. So whoever you team him with, it kind of. You put him with some, listen, man, somebody like a Luka where you got a decision to make in the pick and roll? Yeah.

I'm going to give it to him, too. You're going to play a good move. Man, listen, that's dangerous. They both need the ball in, but that shit's scary. You put him with Westbrook. That shit's scary, dog. Westbrook? Luka hitting that step back three.

That shit is frightening. It don't matter. Luka probably the best one. With that pick, with Giannis and Westbrook, just I mean that's the easier guard than steph and him Is it yeah, I rather guard. I rather guard Westbrook in and yannis then have to guard you going under that you're going under always But yeah, okay. All right. Sorry Okay, yeah, give him that turn. He see you at the rim. We're not talking about no We're talking about Greek picking real. I mean a Greek pick he pick it. Oh, he gonna hit you right go under and then

You're gonna meet you right there. We're gonna meet you right there. Go under on stuff Can't go over the switch cuz step not step is not fast. Okay, so which are you? Okay, go Kyrie I'm a go. I'm a go Kyrie. I go Lou. I'm staying Luca cuz Luca gonna pass me someone I need someone who I need a pastor to this is why I don't this why I don't do Luca When you're talking about a great pick and roll Right Luca comes off. We're just gonna switch it right cuz he don't have the he's not gonna ever turn the corner switch on Gregory you and Greek no way they're doing gonna pop out

Pop out it's gonna pop out that he's gonna try to take whoever Greek rolls now But if I have somebody who can turn the corner or that Becomes a harder pick a roll to guard because I'm gonna turn the corner now It forces you to try to hard show now he you dive I can but it's not the same switch on that No, no, whoever's guarding Kyrie is not the same person that you're gonna put on Luka so to speak you okay You gonna try to play bigger on Luka. You know I'm saying because for what he is So you're gonna put a clay on Luka rather than And we switch on Kyle we switch on switch on the rent

Moran we we're gonna Maran's coming. We've just gonna depend on the jumper like settle We're switching what I'm saying is Okay, we're gonna take Sorry No, just use a hypothetical If I do a pick and roll and he pops out the switch is He less who you got luca right or kairi who's going to settle them who's going to settle for the jumper against him luca right so i'm getting in both that shit but kairi's gonna try to fucking bop him to the basket oh he oh he don't know he's

gonna bop into john moran is gonna sit therebrook is going to try to turn the corner so that's why a guard that can actually that actually has foot speed you would rather have him with Greek because it kind of gives me the big doesn't want to really switch because the guard is too fast

now when I throw it back he's now trying to get back to him you got this when this ball come back because if they do this shit Him catching that bitch and going right Oh Great. Yeah, but that's why that's why Murray and Jokic is very well because he gonna turn the corner, right? So if you he's gonna string your ass out may see this with have you noticed they didn't really switch much He just struck straight. Come on. Keep coming. All right now me going back

Yeah, right with Luke I'm gonna switch because he's not fast enough to beat him off the dribble So he just gonna keep going cuz you can't rotate cuz you got Michael Porter over this motherfucker But that's what Luca wants though Luca wants to switch for the step back, but that's I'm saying still be step back in every time Okay, we know you're not using Greek. You're right. using him But Kyrie gonna come down that motherfucker gonna turn that corner He's gonna pop pop pop and now you got her the pocket pass the rim the floater the other day. He got his Yeah, it's scary. I'll get it. That's what I like even like we used to go under on Tony Parker Tony Parker couldn't shoot for shit He was leading the league in layups 50% No, it was like 55% nobody was leading points in the back

Yeah, points when we're going under yeah Turn it for we're still going under like we're gonna hold up and go on and take on go real hard He gonna still turn the corner if he didn't turn you beat him span. Yeah, it was a re-screen They didn't really it was a really good. Oh, listen Re-screen, re-screen. There's a clip out there. Yo, we playing them dog. We downed it. I sat down in it. Man, this man came off and spun off me and reversed that thing on the other side.

I said, ooh, Tony. Tony. Ooh, Tony. Oh, I commented on the post. Ooh, Tony. Listen, I sat down in it. I think I got him, too. I said, he knew my ass, and I was like, ooh. That turned the corner.

When you go under on someone that's fat, man, just think about it. If I'm going, just say you don't shoot, right? And you're turning the corner, and I got to go under. Think about how the speed I'm going plus what you're going to do. Got a foul. I'm turning the corner, right? And you're going under. I'm trying to meet you.

Damn God, this shit. What? Because I'm trying to beat you to the spot. I asked you. So somebody that's fast, you're trying to really get like TJ Ford and all them. Oh, my God. But I'm thinking weak side load up. I'm thinking pick and roll.

We know who we playing. Okay. Load the fuck up. Make him get off the ball. Swing that. Swing that. Swing that. Swing that.

Especially if it's a switch. If he not turn the corner, it's a switch. Load up. Hey, Joe, drop. Make him. He got hit there. Why am I? Joe, Joe, make him hit that.

But if he turn in the corner, we got to be at the nail, right? I'm going to give you an the corner we got to be at the nail, right? Yeah, I'm gonna give you an example. I got to be at the nail right a Few years ago I'm watching the game one of my partners and there was three possessions in the row and I explained to him what so the first Time Steph came off got a wide open guard big was back. I said why you finna get a foul watch Big stepped up that motherfucker Steph came off get ready turn the corner cuz he was late He stepped up trying to turn the corner do try to whatever for reason try to go on fire Right turn fast and she'd come off the corner

I'm gonna watch this he finna split it Came out there mother. He split the motherfucker, right? Cuz he late I'm saying you can't be late in them dudes. Them dudes, when they turn their corner, see there's going to be a shot, foul, split. Something good going to come out of it. You know what I'm saying? But you know, if you playing that early show,

we early showing this coverage. Our coverage got to be early so he don't split, because we know he's splitting. We going to soft trap this motherfucker, make him get off it early. But I got Joker. I mean, I got Giannis rolling. On a it early, but I got Joker. I mean I got I got yannis rolling Oh, look full roll. Oh, we'll rotate or we'll rotate in on that or so cuz this is too on the ball

Oh, what are you gonna do? You gotta clean that you go slow roll. Are you gonna do this here right here? Yeah, we want to make this motherfucker right here and you got this one point shooters right here. We're not leaving him How you gonna rotate because it's another dude out there playing don't to on the ball one one gardener roll It's two other guys. It's a dunk or three Which one is the point right here point so this is pick and roll soft trap right this is rolling. Yep rotate This is your rotate help this is where he's the corner guy. That's corner But what if you don't rotate you stay home? I'm throwing to my three stay home who picks him up stay home if you stay home if you roll it Well, you know, are you saying he he going this is a strong side pick and roll

soft He yeah, you got a rotate ain't going corner. He gonna go corner just say if he do pop down his pop it Yeah, don't keep We not helping on that full rotation if he popping NASA don't he's gonna drive we slow rotation on that he's driving Who's the slow boy? We got we got three niggas in the lane now Yeah, no rolls. I got two one. We got one in the paint on the roll He's gonna take this charm. I had to take that time. Then it's a dumb man is right here We got to live with something. We got to live with something But who's Duncan but Lopez him that's real for Bobby Porter's, okay

But that's what happened That's what that was going down some of what going on with our Denver still you do the pick and roll and they got this Sorry, you got this guy in the corner and then they have this guy trying to move that was where the Bruce Brown That was my order KCP Order and then you so you want to lift it he's not no so you had you had your dunk spots so these guys Aaron Gordon was in the dunker Gordon's here so we'll turn a corner if you thought about it Aaron Gordon's coming to the what's in it you throw it the Joker yeah but now don't bring him or he gonna turn the corner get a jump shot. This guard was slow as fuck just switch it So give me Kyrie

Let's keep this thing moving so like even even John Moran, right you see he does the same move every time because the big switch on them. Yeah big So before we get to mostly fans we can get gills a single ISO camera real quick It's dried up now, but they say you sweated a tough crowd logo in your sweatshirt It dried up now, but at one point it was looking very tough crowdish. Tough crowdish. But now it's time for the last segment of the show, Mostly Fans, presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you haven't done so already, download the app, use the promo code GILZARENA, and they'll

match your first deposit up to $100. All right, so we got one lucky underdog user about to get a double bag. There's two good questions. So first one comes from underdog user Miranda to get a double bag. There's two good questions. So first one comes from a underdog user Miranda 6 p.m So can you break down in depth what you mean when you say the game is faster between levels like college to NBA or Euro to NBA? Yeah, I mean just like from a you are right it's just you're weeding out to the bottom so in college right let's say the best college number one player in his position so he's a small forward right most likely he's he didn't face any other top small forwards in that season right so when zion was was coming up, Zion didn't face

any other power fours that were actually in the top lottery. So it milks down. So the reason there's only like, what, 5,700 NBA players ever is because the best are staying. Yeah.

So college is not as good as people think. It's watered down. You have 13 lotteries. And most of them ain't even lotteries. So college is not as good as people think it's watered down you have 13 lotteries And most of them ain't even lotteries, but you have 13 lotteries. So once you get to the NBA, it's the the apex of the apex So every everybody the NBA was more more likely than not the best player on their team in college, right? For the most one for the most part. Yeah, for the most part. Or the second.

Or top two. Or they have very high potential. We have four niggas come out in our class. Yeah. Yeah. But there's anomalies

like yourselves, right? That fucking national champ. Like the premier team. Marvin was picked number two. He was the third, fourth best player on our team. But he's getting drafted

more or less on potential because he's young and we see where he can go. Yeah, for sure. But if he would have stayed all four years... He'd have been, yeah. Like somebody like Patrick Beverly,

right? He led Chicago, Illinois in scoring. 37. 37 a game. Right? In the NBA, he's a defensive player.

Yeah. Right? So, no matter, you know, what we say, for us, when we're up top, yeah, there's trash, right? But to the fans, those are still NBA players. Those guys just had to sacrifice and they're the weak links of the wolves. They are still some type of wolf, right? For sure. The sheeps and the dogs have been left behind. Now these have some type of wolf blood in them to make it to that league.

We should try and get Pat Bev on the show too at some point. That would be cool. Hey, Pat, I'm not even going to lie. They think you ducking. See, Pat was supposed to be here today. You see his face, Pat. He thinks you're ducking. I, Pat was supposed to be here today. Like, you see his face, Pat. He thinks you're ducking. I don't know who they is.

I don't got no beef. He thinks you ducking. What's for dinner? I'm just saying, come on over here and finally let these boys know. What's beef? There will be work here. We're going to have work.

He might be married, man. Okay, just a story, Joe. It's a party. Listen, it's going to be Thursday. It's going to be a party listen. It's gonna be Thursday's gonna be a party atmosphere We celebrate in our year Right. I don't plan on answering shit y'all got to go at all because obviously I gotta be hot you gonna be He already agreed to it he not ducking the smoke. I like that. I like that.

I'm going to be Googling all kind of shit. How to block out from getting high. They're going to say drink. I'm going to come here with an IV. Like, go ahead. Yeah, this IV. The IV don't help you when you high. This is a drill.

They're going to run this shit out. He think it's being drunk. It ain't being drunk. I can't wait to watch him turn like a vampire. Vampire Brooklyn. Run this shit out. He think it's being drunk. It ain't being drunk. I can't wait to watch him turn like a vampire. Nigga, no. Stop. All right, second question from Miranda6pm. So you got to get Miranda6pm.

I think it's a woman. I don't know the pronouns. Miranda6pm got to get the $100 bonus. 50 and 50 for the two questions. Explain the importance of a ball boy to a rookie or young player. And what's the wildest thing you had a ball boy do and what's the wildest thing you had a ball boy do? What is the wildest thing you had a ball boy do for you that you can share on the show? What is the importance of a ball boy?

What that relationship means for a rookie or young player. I mean, if you use the ball boy for your – well, I mean, it's changed now because you have shooting coaches. But back then, you know, the ball boy was actually my rebounder he was actually the rebounder come in early come in late night come rebound for me some you know assistant coaches and all that didn't come back to the gym so you know a ball boy who's trying to you know make a couple dollars here and there you know it's really very important if you use them right oh for sure no that's a fact that's a fact i remember um you know uh trey young was my ball boy i think in okc oh real yeah trey young and then and then when he made it to the uh nba i remember seeing him in the club he was like yo bro you always

been one of my favorites i remember you give me a pair of your shoes after the game so just stuff like that like some of these ball boys be actually nice they just be needing money and needing a job but i think the wildest thing i probably just want to go get a number or go get like some liquor or something for me like after the game um but the ball boys i mean they're the best though like they's uh like they're the hustlers routine bro when you got they definitely get my per diem you got that like that's what my per diem yeah that's what a root per diem right away as soon as you get it it's like hey bro i appreciate you having whatever it is you ask for like the food that you had for before the game whether it's hot dogs or pizza or some fries or whatever it is you'd be hungry you'd be like fuck man i ate that shit before the game i woke up i'm hungry get to the

a ball boy know what it is and we're going out there early so we get there early already he already out there ready go through the whole routine remember the routine sometimes you don't need those coaches because they like to take credit for that shit that you be doing before the game. They be out there hooping too early. They be out there playing one-on-one going hard. And the work, man. They recognize where to work at. They might hit you with,

hey, I see one. He's been scouting for me. You know what I'm saying? And you got to throw him a dub or another hunting for that. Like, yeah, that was a good one. Last game was a good one last game Work recognition the treatment all boys is important man Like treating them like with respect and stuff is important. It goes a long way

Like KJ benefit now from some of the love I show got some of them guys equipment managers now Mm-hmm guys. Yeah, I'm saying so they come up to KJ But I don't man just tell your pops man, I appreciate when he was leaving, he used to look out for us, he did that and the third. But yeah, I was sending ball boys to five-star restaurants to get food and shit, like. Get you something too. Oh yeah, no, get you something,

but I'm taking care of them though, yeah. That's what I said, I'm, yeah. Five-star restaurant, yeah, I'm sending, yeah. I gave them all, that's what I said, I gave them all my receipts. Shit, you know what I mean? Because they're going to ask you, where did you get it from? Well, Wizards, you know, Gilbert Arenas gave me these shoes.

He gave me this money under the table. You know, they can't, you know, insurance companies. That's actually a good job to have the ball boy. Because like you said, they'd be moving up, man. Next thing you know, manager, equipment manager. Like, they got like one of the coolest jobs. General manager? Yeah. If y'all, there's a document.

I mean, there's a documentary. I mean there's a documentary It was like There's a documentary of me like like I don't know if it was like some workout where I'm coming back late night I'm in my Ferrari going back and then I was like, yo, can you rebound for me? If you look at it, that's Tim Connelly general manager Wow for me. If you look at it, that's Tim Conley, general manager. Wow. He's a general manager now. That's crazy. Because there's no role to general manager. Big time general manager. Yeah, big time general manager. That was a rebound. That was a fucking rebound. The ball boys might be the lick. The ball boys are the lick, though. Because you're always there. The film

guys are always there. You spend more time at the arena than anybody else. If you got admirations to be something more than a ball boy, there's a lane and avenue for you in it. You know what I'm saying? Keep your nose clean. Don't be stealing shit. I was going to ask on the other side. Oh yeah, no.

Not buying them up for selling jerseys, stealing shoes and shit. You coming up like, damn, I knew I had some. Fuck my shoes at. Or then you set them up to do some dumb shit like to be a fucking scapegoat crash gun Yeah, or there's some bag on happen one of them shit like that, but The ends and outs of the organization though, yes, that's what really get them up later They like an apprentice like you sitting there like oh, that's how this shit done

Oh, I know this shit. I got this on you. I got this shit on you. You brought the work in here late night boy I don't see you because the ball boys are usually there 10 15 20 years It is for a while. They started that oh, yeah, we have years Yeah, I've been a ball boy 12 To the grown-ass man know all the secrets owner know the owner love them to be like, yeah We need him to keep him used to get a ball boys like a percentage like a shot playoff share Like we'll get a main that we get Sparky shut out the sparking this well got a ring Denver he was sparky been there since 88 and

Sam boy. Yeah, so we should get sparky a full share a Playoff share and then we'll split a share with the ball boys Oh, yeah, no take him They take care of you if not Yeah Don't take care of all boys and they end up snitching and then that's where they get the direct line to the media now Does don't be the one that you taking the jury like your shoes? Shoes like yeah, I don't know certain people got access to the locker room and shit like that.

But nobody really give a fuck. I mean, I don't know. You know, we don't care. You steal my shit. Rich. I'm rich. No, you don't. You left a house full of shit.

No, you don't care. He's going to get back. He's going to bring it back for me to sign this shit anyway to legitimize it. Anyway. Get my shit back. Sign it.

At the end of the season, that's where those... Where these men at? I've been like, I'm looking for these shit. Well, we appreciate you. That's our show... Where these been at? I've been like, I've been looking for these since. Well, we appreciate you. That's our show for today. We got two more this week.

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