Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over The NBA's HOSTILE Beefs

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over The NBA's HOSTILE Beefs as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the latest beefs taking over the NBA like Klay Thompson calling out Ja Morant after an altercation on the court and our very own Kenyon Martin continuing to battle with Draymond Green over his career and reputation as an enforcer in the NBA. They tip things off by giving their take on Klay's harsh words on Ja Morant, calling out the Memphis Grizzlies superstar for his lack of accountability and dissapointing career so far and debate if the NBA Legend was spitting or tripping with his comments on Ja. They also discuss what the Memphis Grizzlies superstar needs to do to shed the negativity around his name before reacting to LaMelo Ball asking for a trade from the Charlotte Hornets and debating if the young superstar would benefit from a change of scenery that could place him with a winning franchise. Next, they react to Kenyon Martin UNLEASHING on Draymond Green this weekend as the legendary power forward stood on business in his beef with the Golden State Warriors legend by spending 20 minutes on IG Live naming over 50 players, like Bo Outlaw, Popeye Jones and Reggie Evans, that he believed are better than Draymond and continued to stoke the fire of one of the most hostile beefs in this shows history. The Gil's Arena gives their take on the battle between Kenyon & Draymond and react to Draymond's comments on Swaggy P's contributions to their championship run before giving Chris Paul his flowers as the point god announced his plans to retire after this NBA Season. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog today. Go to https://RuffGreens.com and use promo code “Arena” SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvj... Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A glorious Tuesday here in the arena. We got not one but two shows for you, so make sure you stick around for the arena. Green Iron coming up right after our show today. But how everybody feeling? Good.

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Stop moving them shoulders like that, man. I can't. It's going to be a... Yeah, I already know. A lot of stuff has gone down, and we got a lot of stuff to address. But this is Gills. Arena presented by Underdog, whoop, who, whoa, who.

I'm merely a host Josiah Johnson. As always, we've got the NBA and NBA 2K legend Gilbert Arena. You know, I didn't realize everything I was going on today, man, I know you was here. You know, he retired, so, you know, I know. I have something nice to say about him. Okay, I will just son ass laugh like, though.

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Things got turked up in Dallas over the weekend with Clay saying John the Grizzlies are all barked and no bite Is he spitting or tripping? You can't put your finger in another man's face Lamello Ball shut down a report

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Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So, let's get right to it. Clay Thompson and John Moran have a documented history of not rocking with each other from Thompson's time with the Warriors. Clay and the Dub's defeated John's Grizzly Squad in the playoffs. during the 2022 championship run in Clay's return season

after missing more than 900 days. So in March of that season, the gris smacked the dubs in a regular season game, Jaron Jackson Jr. proceeded to put up a tweet mocking the warrior's strength and number slogan. So after the Warriors won the trip that season, Clay addressed the team called JJJ a bum. So with the Grizzies in Dallas this weekend,

the beef got turned up to a whole new level. Let's take a look at what went down. So John was on the bench and street clothes while dealing with a calf injury, but that didn't stop him and Clay from drawing at each other all game. Tension grew late in the third quarter after Santiago Alma appeared to trip Cooper flag

with Clay coming to defense of his rookie and exchanging some words with Aldama and the Grizzlies. You see it right there. So Clay had a season high 22 points in the loss missing a potential game tie in three with 20 seconds remaining and after the final buzzers,

things reached a boiling point. Let's take a look at the video if we can. Please. Moments after the game ended, Jal pulled up on Clay, put his finger in Clay's face could be heard. calling Clay a bum, amongst other derogatory words, as the pair had to be separated by players, staff,

and security. You see Clay's face. Jha also crashed Cam Spencer's post-game on-court interview to take another shot at Clay. I'm a competitor, man. Yeah, come on. Let's go, wait. I'm a competitor, so I just want to win.

So bro from Golden State, obviously, a reference to Clay, who used to play in Golden State. And then with Jah, he's a funny. funny guy. He has a lot to say all the time, especially for a guy who rarely takes accountability. But you know what? That's for another day. What a job of saying? On this occasion, nothing of intelligent depth. It was really just his, um, just running his mouth. And he's been running his mouth for a long time. And it's funny to run. on your mouth when you're on the bench.

It's kind of the story of his career so far, just leaving us one more. We all want to see him out there and do his best, but he's just been letting a lot of other stuff get the way of that. We need that in the NBA. We need our best players to be out there. When you're a star, it comes with a great responsibility.

I hate to see that go to waste. Nothing of intelligent depth when you're a star. It comes with great responsibility. Hate to see that go to waste. Been a tough start to the season for both Clay and Jai. Clay averaging close and points, field goal percentage, three point percentage, and minutes per game. While Morant is struggling to find his fit

in the new Grizzlies offense under first year head coach, Tuamasi Salo. Jaws putting up career loads and field goal percentage, three point percentage in minutes per game, with the second lowest scoring average of his career. So I want to open it up to the couch. Was Clay spitting or tripping with his comments about Jai Morant?

Not all there once should have been. No, I'm just saying. Oh. They've been going out for a while though. I like that clay that had Cooper flags back. Yeah, I don't bet. That was dirty. That was definitely one part of the situation.

And it's like, I feel like, you know, you still, like when you was number one, job was number one, you still didn't beat, you still didn't take the champ out. So, you know, that's probably in the back of his head. Clay just did the coldest mix white man breakdown. He's seen in a while, you know, so. Nice kid did. Yeah. You got mad.

Yeah. Levels. Not enough. He had enough. He said everything but darkened. He stayed in the gated community. He was in the gated community with that response. It was really...

That's H-O-A right here. What do you say? Everything he said, he said. There's really nothing you can... Right, ain't nothing. So, gentlemen, on this icon, see you guys engaged in your phones. Can you actually have your firm... You can just see through the back of it.

I'm not fucking with this new man. I'm not. I'm not fucking with him the day. Warrior Steve Day on the show, so. Better shooting than bro from Golden State. I don't know which way I want to go with this. The only way to go. For one, we're talking about somebody that's in street clothes for one.

For two. talking about somebody in street clothes three talking about somebody in street clothes one two and three are definitely three things that are all accurate I just want to know when like job became tough

to go out yeah like and then if you really want smoke like you like this is the thing right about this shit like the whole situation right, if you really won't smoke with him, right? Why you don't extend your arm all the way? Why you got the bend in the elbow to point in the face? Like, this is little shit that I watch when you fake tough

and you fake like you won't smoke with the dude. Like, why not just go ahead and touch him? Why not go ahead and put your finger all in his face if you really won't smoke? If you really, like, if you really in that moment, you know what I'm saying? 400,000. That's cool. That's why I'm not going to do it.

See, that's the thing, though. No, that's smart. Don't fake it then. But you think... Listen, I'm talking. Don't fake it. Don't fake it. Don't fake it.

Why are you putting your hand in my face? Because I can... Say, yo, no, no. So now you want to fight. So no. See, that's... You have to do it. Do it.

Do it then. That's what I mean. But then you ain't going to do it, then I'm going to keep doing this. Do it, do it. That's what I'm saying, so. Give him a reason to, touch him. Put the bin in your elbow, barely. This is like, come on.

This is already. This is already. No, it's doing it. That's why he did, no, but that's why he did that. If you go back, go back and look, this is already enough. Can we see the video? If I'm going to say it like this, that's already enough. Is it enough to smack you?

No. Come on, man. Is it enough to smack you? Look. Look, being in the elbow. Look, get your hand up. Get your hand up. Get your hand up.

Is it enough for Clay to smack him? Like, just, well, all the fake shit. Like, if you put your finger at somebody. Somebody walk up on him and do like. I mean, we can always go to the back. Honestly, he can always go to the back. He ain't doing none of that, Brandon. He ain't doing none of that.

So, okay, so what's the wrong with this? I'm here more of a swim move in the slel. Because I got my teammates back. You're not going to come back and everything is entertainment. This is entertainment. Everything is entertainment. Everything is entertainment. No, this is entertainment.

That's entertainment. That's entertainment. That's entertainment. That's basketball. They ain't entertaining. You wait until people get in between you. Okay, so why didn't do anything when to do. Neither one of them do.

So that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, but I'm going to say something. Clay didn't start. Clay has, the dude did something so he went to say something to him by this. So say something. You ain't got to put your finger in his face. But he did. But he did.

But he did. That's you trying to do something. And then what he did? So that's what I mean. Are we justifying. Jaws? I'm saying. I'm saying like I get this part.

Like this is. No, what is that? But I'm saying, I did this after. So that means like, man, watch out. Yeah, but it's like you wait to somebody get in between y'all though. That's my thing. If you really like, that's like, why wait to somebody get in between y'all? It's bad.

So what is it for? What is it for? It's entertainment. See, this is not. This is not. This is not. basketball is the entertainment? Basketball is.

The game is over. The game is over now at this point. It's doing that. The game is over. It never happens. Just like, say something. Like you over on the bitch talking. Clay has something to say to your teammate, right?

Yeah, I'm playing. Clay has something to say to take up for the rookie. He has something to say. So I get that. I'm with it. I'm not saying it's wrong for saying something to doing. But what is the, what is this, like you, now you're trying to take it into a whole different

ram, that's what I'm saying. Because it's been living on for years, though, between them. So I'm sure it's something else been saying. If it's been going on for a long time, right? They've been beefing for a while. If it cool, like, it's all been, like, you ain't go take it to the next level, so just keep it at word. So punching him.

You know, bunch of touch and see what it really wanted. But that's 400. That's 400. No, it ain't. Just off that. Just off that. If you touch somebody, they gave him 25 already. Yeah, and now touching that's four, that's three hundred and seven five dollars.

So what is it for then? It's to let you know you can't talk. What is it for? Just, I mean, it's entertainment. It's supposed to keep doing. So the next time they're out there on the court in Memphis, right, they play. It's for nothing. So next time they're in Memphis, then they play.

Y'all won't be there. Can he do imaginary grenade at him? Y'all won't be there. Can we meet it? Well, whatever team he go. The next time we see what I'm saying, it's going to play basketball. Let's play basketball. We don't talk shit.

Let's talk shit, right? but then you get to putting your finger in my face and all and now you're taking it to the next level is what I'm saying like but talking shit and then you bump me like you know how people I get it all that like cool but now you're making it physical see now you're making it physical let's keep it at words that's what I'm saying we're talking shit we're talking shit right we hooping we hooping we talk shit we talk shit somebody got to win somebody got to lose we know that somebody both

niggas might play well both niggas might play like trash we know these things right so now you get the bump and be putting your finger in my Now that's the, right? But Clayhander is the right way, though. You know what I'm saying? But don't talk in shit always lead to something physical in some way. No, bro. No.

If I'm talking shit and I come down, a foul might be, you know, if you're talking shit with somebody on the court and you coming down and you're busting his ass or something going on, you don't think something's going to happen in the game to wear a hard foul or something. Now that's in the context of it. This is not. The game is over. And he ain't playing. But he's not playing.

But why did that start, though? Because he tripped who? He's tripped two. They were talking to each other for a lot of the game. Clay was over there, like, talking to them. Right, of course. During the game, he made a three, got a tech, come back in the game.

He missed a shot to win the game. Okay. Clay also had a situation with the heat. You were a bum. Now, in the interview, he's saying, you better than broken goal to state. You're a better shooter. I'm with all that.

I'm with all that. It's easy. work. I'm with all that. But putting your finger in my face after the game. Now it's, now you take it. What's really good, bro. That's all I'm saying. And he smacked it. Like, all the bum, you're a bum, I miss the shot, you suck, he better shooting than you. That's all fair.

That's all right. But I think, but I feel like, but I feel like if they both really wanted to do something, they could have got between those two guys regardless. Clay ain't the one saying he wanted to do something. He's just like, yeah, yeah, Clay using this. Clayton is still talking shit, right? You know how that get the way you buses. Yeah, Clay's, but you ain't playing though. And I'm not busing your ass. So, What is you doing?

But you ain't playing. All right. So we never talk trash from the bench? All day. I'm saying, yeah. I'm about saying. Every day. Yes, I did as well when I was in street closed, but I ain't going after putting my finger in

nobody face. It's after the game. I'm not putting the finger in nobody face. But if he was talking to you, calling you a bummer and saying that's why you get this and that during the game, after the game, you're not going to come on the court and be like, hey, hey, when y'all walking by. Come on. Listen, bro.

Yes, no. I'm not. Listen, you put your finger in my face. I'm not going to put my finger in my face. I'm not going to put my finger in your face if we're talking shit. There's no need for me to. It's confrontation because I know

I have no problem and we'll come next. Okay. But if we're talking shit, we're talking shit. That's my thing. I ain't got no problem doing it. Talking shit always leads to somebody. No, it don't.

And this is coming from me, listen. Big shit talking when I'm on the bench. If I ain't playing or if I'm not out of the game on street clothes, I'm talking cash shit to people. Oh, hell or not. You come to that corner? That's your trash. Yeah, I'm talking cash shit to everybody.

to everybody that come near that bench, absolutely. Make him out. But then after the game, you put your finger in my, no, no. Oh, I'm not going to put my finger. I'm the one talking shit from the bench. Yeah. You say something back. Yeah.

I miss a game winner. Yeah. Tying shot, whatever it is. I put my finger in your face. Like, no. Like, that don't work. Depends on history, though. But that history that they have, though, yes.

I can see it because of the history. But just off of one game, yeah, somebody then, yeah, I get that. But what if it's, so. So if I'm going to take it, like, you put your finger in your face if you're willing to take it there. That's all, that's just what I'm saying. Like, what is it for? Because you wait for somebody getting in between you to do it.

So what is it for? Let's just keep it talking shit because they both going to go to Twitter, X afterwards, make a video. That's the entertainment part of it, right? The fans going to engage. Mm-hmm. And you're in street clothes. If you were who, you were playing, but you're in street clothes.

And then you'll put your fan, like, it's... Can you, you have previously said if somebody called you another B word followed by A-N, that may be fighting work. Is bum enough of a, no, a derogatory time to make you want to fight? No. No. That's... B-U-M, beautiful urban. You're a bum, nigg.

Everybody has been a... Everybody played them. Everybody has played them. They're called the greatest basketball players all the time, bums. Like, no. Everybody gets a bum-word. A bum-bump. Yeah, like, no.

No, let's not. Bum's not really a word. I feel like that should be in our lexicon. No, but what it is? You know what it means, but it's not, no, everybody has been called that. I'm about to be number one picking the dress. The bomb is made it to the fight. Bomb, people born scoring titles.

Like, it's, like, it's, like, trust me. Kevin Durant ain't responded there. Like, trust me. No, bomb? Like, no. Yeah, mom don't hurt. Yo, you had a suggestion for what they should have done when Josh took a finger in the side.

You'd like to retreat that front. Yeah. That's words. Yeah, we get mom. Like the Cheetos. Like the Cheetos. Like the Cheetos? You ever did it? Yeah.

Like, I'll see you after the game. You did one of those? Yeah, like, damn. What happened to the game? Huh? It's when you're like her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we do.

My point exact. Hey, I thought that shit plenty of time. My point exact. We thought, that's plenty of time. My point exactly. We're like, yeah. Yeah, that was a good ass game. Hey, remember, you're on your phone.

What is it for? That's my thing. And be surprised that they're waiting for you after. Like, whoa. What you do it? Oh, I thought you wanted to meet me. No. I remember me and Mello got into it with the Knicks.

Me and Mello got into it. I was busting ass. And I did like one of these, like, you know, back in the day. And then came up to me, he said, yo, don't do that shit. Like, you know, and then after the game, he was waiting on me in the back. Who? Mello. Because I did this.

And I was like, yeah, that's really? Like, shit. I was like waiting on me they ain't got to have stack jack with me hey come on stack that nigga boy these big niggins are trying to fight yeah

he had the guard you got the guard yeah it wasn't just him yeah I know I know at that time I had T.Y over there Tyson oh yeah this is just no I'm saying no it was I'm looking at internet

discourse boy that shit got wild you remember we got into them with nuggets mm-hmm mm-hmm what getting out of there not

Not for us. That's the thing. We were the visiting team. Everything was great. Like, people forget mellow born and brook. Yeah, I know for sure. Yeah, people, yeah. People, yeah, people, yeah, I was like, I had to go get in front of the back.

Like, hey, man, you need to hurry up and get in the shower and ice up, bro. Hey, you're needed out here. Hey, we need your presence. Please, hey, because I was in the suit. I wouldn't play in that game. I'm like of all games, right? All the games That I'm in street clothes

God knew Yes, hey I've always said He won't put me in them Kind of situations, right? I know I always thank him Listen, he won't put me in it

Because Lord knows man Nicky listen The nigga got going I looked down and took a step back Make sure I ain't nowhere I did that line Uh huh Mm-hmm

Did not habitually cross that line That time? Oh, dude Not that day So the fines made you not want to fight Now, they would have my career would have been done. So you step back? I step, listen, they're fighting.

If I run on the court in a suit with my reputation at that point, my career is done. Hey, what shoes you're at on? Barlowers on, man. Stepples? Hey, stick in there with them locus and a black suit. Slide this shit with a slid right in two ones. Damn, I'm like, oh, shit.

Hey, I ain't going to lie. That line. That line. that line, that line stopped the whole punch. No fight. No fact. When David Sturton put that, if anybody passed the line, they're like, ah! Yeah, hey, that's why you see the motherfucking coaches

over that bitch now. Everybody, they make it fighting, get the pushing coaches of six or since coaches be like this. Yep. Because, hey, that shit costs, no. No, it's a switch. No, it's automatic. It's automatic. It's not because when they that's first thing. That's the game. No, it's a game check.

That's the playoffs series. Go to the finals and San Antonio. I remember that. So that, that shit right there. There was Amari, right? Mario, like, three people, shit. Because he was going to go help. Just stepped over that motherfucker and look.

Mind your business. Hey, Jack, listen. You can sit, but. Hey, that gun line, boss. I was about the gun line boss. I was like, oh, stay out of it. But that's all I'm saying. What is it?

It ain't for nothing, though. You ain't going to go in the back like you. Let me go, go in the back, getting a shout. Jai, you're going to go do whatever it is they're doing because you didn't play. So, dude, just, everybody knows it's tension now, so it's going to be extra police in the back. Like, that's all I'm saying. If something go on and doing like that during the game, there's going to be extra police presence in the back. So you won't cross paths with one another.

You don't hang out in the same circles. You don't go to the same places. So you ain't go do nothing. You ain't go kill nothing or watch and nothing die. How much would that game take, Ben? So it depends on your money, right? Yeah, how much money you make? Yeah.

Yeah, was you in the locker room when going to state and Clippers got into it? And they called... Nah, not, not. Somebody called 911. No, hell. They took a secret path. But there's been a lot of discourse on the internet about Clay, obviously not being a franchise player like Jai.

But if you compare their first seven seasons, I think what Jai, two-time All-Star, one-time all-N-B-A selection. Clay, four-time All-Star, two-time NBA selection. So Clay has been that guy, maybe not the number one guy on his team, but he's been a high-level player. So he has the ability. That's why I'm hurt some more.

No, because he starts saying shit that, like, you know, we all want to see you play. He's just being there in those suits. You know, our best players in his league, we want to see him out. Like little things like that, like, you know, having panned out, you know, so far. You know. Get the shit together. Trigger words. Yeah, you start changing this.

World. It takes account of it. Yeah, really? All that. What did he say? Nothing of depth. Like, yeah, shit like that. So, like I said, Clayhound in the right way.

Clay also a champion in his first seven seasons, four-time champion with the Warriors. This was not no championship talk. This was just human behavior talk. Yeah. I don't like that. That's the words. That's the words. You don't need to do one of these.

Oh, hey, man. Are you all right? You're going to play any time this shit? I'm going to run for you. Last couple of years, man. Are you even going to be here when we get back in time? That's shit, you know what I mean? It's just those socks.

Well, speaking of that, girl. You know Clay still wouldn't be Clay as hard not to be the person you were. Man, you're going through it. But speaking of that, good, Clay also went in on John and this current Grizzly squad. So let's take a listen to that. I actually do have a lot of respect to the Grindhouse. Mike calling me and Zach Braddorf from Arkansas. I was a hard team to be in that for so my goodness.

this new team I don't know man they just talk a lot they've always talked a lot and never really backed it up either so I don't really respect that I respect guys who

back up to talk with play because talk is cheap trust man I don't have better than anybody I've been to sleep a long time all right so speaking of that so Gil during our playback watch party

Sunday during the Lakers Jazz game you said Jai has a dark cloud over him. People are only going to think of the negative things associated with his name instead of all the positive that he's done in the league, which has been a lot of positives. Highlight real, obviously, signature shoe heavily viewed on the internet, one of the most viewed athletes in the NBA. You also said he needs to find a way to rid himself with the negativity. So what does John need to do to rid himself of the negativity?

Not getting shit like this? A good story. Right? Like, you're not in this game. You're not in this game. You're a fan. And watching like everybody else, right? No matter how much you're sitting there talking, going back and forth. He misses the shot. You want to be involved.

You're supposed to be in a locker room. Right? What I'm saying is, out of everybody who played, you're the one in the news for something negative. Because you're inserting yourself in a situation, and that situation is a negative situation. So, you know, it's like did a great, great summer, kept his head low, didn't, you know, there was no mishaps and, you know, little things like this.

It's going to take a while, you know, two, three years of just straight positive basketball and not these situations. So right now it's like, okay, the shoe's hot, it's on fire right now, and then the next thing is just this. Those are the two things that's been viral. Why is he out? Huh? He hurt. Cap strain.

One of the many. It's a lower leg injury. This happened after he got into it with the coaches. He was suspended for a game for that. I was suspended for a game too. How about that? Then suffered the cap strain. I believe grade one, so.

Shot, I see you. I think I think this is positive for Jai. I don't think this is negative. Why do you feel like that? You got to think about team morale. They just got to win, right? So they beat the Mavs and losing to the Nuggets in their most recent game.

their most recent game six and twelve right now believe 10th in the west so this win against the maps essentially can give him favor for the coaches of being able to have some type of power while not playing over a guy who could essentially made that shot to beat them but thinking about the chirping the whole game like we talked about me having the ability to make you emotional and to get you off your rocker without really having to do anything I think that was the one thing John needed to do and sometimes you think it's just one thing that can get your power to get you back on track. When you actually get back out there, you start playing, you got a reason to get back out there because everyone is looking at you like, oh, you're talking

while you on the bench, you know, your team ready to trade you. Now is something to prove. I think that he got bored early. I think that the coaches wanting him to do more than just show up like he booby miles. I think that, you know, when you out there, I just put my nikes on and I'm going to bust him dead. No, man. We got to need you. you to play some defense. We need you to get guys involved. We need you to be the spirit of the team. And I think that this is his way of showing the spirit of the team. I'm going to talk shit. I'm going to walk my shit. I'm going to do, I'm going to get back to being me. And regardless of him being the tough guy, now, I think that this kind of helped him feel like he did

something in the game without playing. He helped Clay missed the shot. He ain't going to do too much of that against the Nuggets because they got somebody over there that's different. But when you look at Dallas, they short, man. They ain't got nobody that could. affect the game like that, except for somebody like Clay, like a hit a shot like that. So I think that was a positive for him more than it was a negative. We all as a media going to look at it negatively. Yet, I think for him, he felt good after the game. Like, regardless of all the mayhemes going on, he felt like, yeah, I fucked his mind up.

I'm in his head. And every time we see him, he's going to think of me. So I think it was a plus for John. And we talked about quickly. I mean, I see both sides. I do. I see both sides to it. Well, that's a positive?

I mean, he does have a lot. I mean, if the team is, if the team is dysfunction and I'm sticking up for my teammates, I mean, what's the problem with that? I mean, at the end of day, like, I'm sticking up on my teammates. They had nothing to do is you sticking up for your teammates. They had nothing to do that way. Between you and him? Yeah, but everything did. The whole play, you went at my guy for tripping him, right?

So you went at him, Clay. So now I'm on you. So now you said, you said, you. And we already have history. So, like, what you, what you're trying to say? So, yeah, I'm going to go up to you after the game. I'm going to say what I got to say, which is, hey, you can feel however you want, but I'm sticking up for my teammate at the end of the day.

Like, because I ain't like how you even went out, oh, boy, earlier. So I'm just thinking that's what it all started. That's why I'm saying. That's why he was in that position to be like, this is my team, I'm the leader. And yeah, I'm going to say whatever. What do you think the coaches think? What do you think those coaches think? If Clay make that shot, he's waking up, you're waking up the bear.

I'm talking about the shot. The shot has already happened. What do you think the coaches are saying about Jai? Jai right now? His own coaches. The ones after that. They don't like it. That don't like them, right?

Right after that, I mean, yeah, yeah. When they go in their coaches meeting, after they bring it in, and they go to coaches meeting, this is this shit I got to fucking deal with. So you don't want me because I'm thinking up on my teammate? I don't think it's that. So you don't want me because I'm thinking up. No, they're not going out of your way now.

They win. So now you're taking the spotlight off our win, right? Okay, okay. This is what they're thinking about. Okay, okay. It ain't now, once again, it's, it's, fucking about Jai. See, that's what the coaches are thinking.

Once again, it's about fucking Jai. What happened at the end? The post game interview, we're walking into the locker room. Everybody's cheering. We feel good. But Jai in there like, yeah, let's get the coaches is like, hey, man, even if they're going to get the hell out. But they still feel good about the win.

If it was a loss, we can blame. Coach is bad. We can blame nobody to win already hot, right? No, if Clay hits the shot, it's because you woke up the month. If you're taking the spotlight off our win. If Clay misses the shot, we don't have a reason to blame it. But that's irrelevant. The shot is irrelevant.

What you're doing after, the game is over with, and you're inserting yourself into a situation that became negative. I get it. No, no, no, no. It wasn't that. I get it. The game is over with. You're taking the spotlight off our win now.

And nobody talking about the fact that we won the game. They're talking about this shit now. How much did they lose it? How much is Dallas who's by? Oh, no matter. It does matter. No, why does it matter? Let me tell you.

I'm gonna tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why. I have a point. You know what a half a point is? Huh? You know what a half a point is? A technical foul. Who got a technical foul?

You keep talking about that. I'm asking. Who got a technical file? What did he get a technical file for? It lost about six points. Turping that jaw over there. Okay, it lost about five. Right?

Uh-huh. So when we talk about affecting the game, due to the fact that I'm in this his head over here. He's looking at our fucking bench every time he comes down because he's mad. I keep calling him a bump. I ain't playing.

It's just like you being on the side of the tree coat. I keep hearing Kenyans say some shit. Hey, he's waking me up over here. I can't wait to hit this dagger in the corner and look over there at him and say, fuck you, nigga.

Fuck you, nigga. No, he made it when he got the technical. He made the three. He made the three. It doesn't matter. This is still the energy, job given. What is the thing? God creating this energy.

Okay. So when he misses, he misses the three. Energy with who? It's negative. No, it's not. After the game is negative. It's negative. After the game is negative. It could be.

It could be. The game is over. It could be. You want to keep talking about the game? Let me get my point. The game is over. The game is over. So, we're trying to leave.

Yes, they can. Both things came. John's out there having a problem. That's what I'm saying. It's like, yo, if he's affecting the game, in the game in this way after the game. I'm in your face. Hey, you fucking bum, remember what I was just saying to you?

All right, look, that's bad, let's say it's bad energy. Like, people. We get to the locker room. It's good energy in the locker room. We don't have bad energy in our locker. For the players. Even for the player. What did he do with the young kid?

Hey, you're a better shooter than that nigga over there from Golden State. He's smiling. Play the clap back and see how he looks. Again, out of this way. Nick. He's out of his way. He's out of his head. Everybody else is in the back of the locker room.

So everybody else is on the court. Everybody on the court. We haven't talked about them anyway. No, but they win. No, okay. The other video. What I'm saying is we're talking about a positive negative. We won the game.

Half of us is walking back to the locker room. Jaws out there in the middle of a fight. Now, we got to run back out there. That's a negative. But we already know the energy job bringing with that throughout the whole game. We already know. God, damn, what now? No, no.

No, it is a negative, but they've been had this history, these two. This is not something to do. That's all I'm saying. But there's a difference. So this is boys. There's a difference. Yes. This is.

Before the coaching staff and the players and the organ, they was with him. Yeah. Yeah. Now everything he does, they're like, well. Like you're a new coach. Hey. It ain't the old coach. You're not going to make it.

But you're not going to change the coach mind. This is a new situation. Because I'm not going to change your mind. If I try to be something you won't, you still ain't. They just suspended him for something after the game just go to the locker room. So you think they suspended in and everything is all hunky-dory now? They didn't go the same way. They thought they were.

Well, he just got suspended. What, a week and a half or two weeks ago? A couple weeks ago. So he just got suspended. Pretty sure it was a coach for GM. It was last month. They got into it after the game. Obviously something.

And then he started to try to play better. He got hurt. I think it was in New York. Did he get suspended? He got her. He got her. Did he get suspended by his team? He got him.

Coach and staff or GM or head coach or Jim or did he get suspended? Yeah, they got it. Yeah. The answer to that question is yes. Yeah. I don't give for what happened. And? I don't care what happened.

And what does that mean? Yes. Yeah. He came back and he kept playing after that. So whatever time frame has elapsed, he ain't played. No, he played after he got suspended. And then he had the captioned. Then he had the captioning.

So like I said, he ain't played. So now you. put this on the table. The energy still ain't right. Which is nothing. Because we won. Because we won. Now you're taking the spotlight off our win.

Did they win? No. Before this game, how many games they won? How about this? Five. You know when you, hey, you know. No, they had five wins before they won that game. You know what you're trying to graduate?

That I got six. You know what you're trying to graduate and you're trying to graduate and you don't need to be tardy or miss any classes anymore? He's still showing up a little bit late. He's still showing up one minute. Don't get there early. That's why. What this is, yo, you're in a situation where you're not playing.

You already have this bullshit that you're trying to get past. You already have a mishaps in this season. Keep your nose clear for a little bit. That's it. Well, Adrian Tell Rocky. That's all, just if they've been losing. You can't win. But if they've been losing, this hell.

Did this get fine for this? I don't give a fuck about it. Did he get fine for this? I'm not heard of any fine. Did he get fine? So what are we talking? I'm saying both things could be true. This ain't fine.

Hold on. They both didn't get pointed. Nothing happened. This is nothing. We're talking about the point I'm making. We're talking about fluff. The point I made at first. This is fluff.

The point I made it first, right? I'm talking shit after the game. The point I'm talking. You're telling me I don't deserve it. We got to move on. I can fuck this thing if I want too. Hey, you're a fucking bum. Content.

We got to move on. We got to move on. What is it for? We do have to move. What is it for? Celebration. The gas thing back. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.

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Putting some rough greens on the show. As you know, I'm a man of many talents. Well versed. So, can you last week in Gilzorina, we talked about some comments you made about Draymond Green and how he is calculated in picking the players he decides to go after. And you've previously said you can name at least 200 players in NBA history who are better than him, things that you have said. But you've also said Draymond Green is a Hall of Famer

and have a tremendous amount of respect for what he's accomplished during his NBA career. I think we should point that out. Drey's nine-time all defensive selection. Defensive Player of the Year, four-time All-Star, two, All-MBA selection, four chips. But Draymond appears to be a fan of the show or a hate watcher. Either way, we appreciate your views, Mr. Green. Recently went on an 11-minute rant on the Draymond Green Show in response to some of your comments, which included this snippet. I've held off on responding multiple times.

Tim Martin was born in Saginaw, Michigan, born and raised in Saginaw. So the constant shots has been a little confusing to me because I don't quite know where they came from. And you think, you know, someone that was the number one pick that didn't quite have the career that I've had when you talk defensive player in the years or non-all defensive teams that I have and he has zero. One all-star? Make no mistake about it.

You are an all-star. I'll give you that. A lot of people can't say that in an all-star. So I'll give you that. You're a one-time all-star. That's beautiful. But you must admit, like, to be the player that you were and defender that you believed you were and to not have, like, a single all-defensive second team, kind of.

underachievement. You know, number one picking a draft. A lot of people looked for that guy to win rookie other year, didn't. All-Rookie team, though. First team, all-rooky. I can't say I made any all-rooky team. So, kudos. I tip my hat to that. It started off promising. Lost in a couple NBA finals, he got to sniff it.

Didn't quite get a taste, but got a little sniff of it. In 2000, playing for the Cincinnati Bearcats. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to see that championship through either. My big brother, Martine Cleese, when it took that championship. You know, so it's tough to sit in a space of like continuing to speak on my name and call my name out as if I

underachieved or am underachieving. When I was just simply the 35th pick in the NBA draft and somebody took a swing on in the second round and it just happened to work out, you know, to become one of the greatest players in a franchise history. It just happened to work out. So Dre's clip had the internet buzzing. Not much history to go on and go on the state, but go ahead. Drey's clip had the internet bussing in attempting to set the record straight. Kenyon, you did a 20-plus-minute IG live. 27 to be exact.

A picturesque background. I have to give you the clouds were beautiful. Life's great. Well-lit covering a variety of Dremont-related topics, which included you listing 50 power forwards throughout NBA history that you thought were better than Dremont. Let's take a look at that list. So we got Janus, Anthony Davis, Dirt,

Charles Barkley, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Dennis Rob, Carl Malone, Chris Weber, Amari Stardemar, Chris Bosch, Rashid Wallace, Pagasol, Eldon Brand, Antoine Jameson, Zach Randolph, Carlos Boozer, David West, Jermaine O'Neill, Sean Kemp, Derek Coleman, Cliffordson, Danny Manning, Larry Johnson, Ben Baker, Lamarcus Ardrich, Blake Griffin, Kevin Love, Sharif Abdulrah, Al Jeffson, Drew Good, and Josh Smith, Tim Thomas, Antoine Walker, Lamar Oden,

Jason Williams, Horace Grant, Oldest Thorpe, Powell Mills, Joseph, Juan Howard, David Lee, Joe Smith, Al Harrington, Michelle Lewis, Brian Grant, Tom Chambers, Kevin McHale, Neyne, and Frizzles, you ain't better than Popeye Jones, Bo Outlaw, Reggie Eggers. Popeye Jones, Bo Outlaw, or Reggie Evans for shit and giggles. When I heard you say those three names,

I actually did shit and giggle, but not in that order. So you said 50 power force But my count you listed 52 And you went on to include yourself So I think that makes it 53 Yeah, a couple more men Do you really believe that all those players you listed Are better than Dr. Mondrian?

Yeah We're talking who? We're talking basketball here, man So that's what I'm saying. Take off the four championships, right? he can't can yes you can we're talking about him

as a basketball player we're not talking about the golden state warriors I'm talking here we're not fucking talking now we can't now we can't so yes we are

so I did it now we can't I did it so therefore we can't have hypothetical conversations now we're not there's nothing hypothetical

about it right listen saying on his dime his merit absolutely them dudes better right so everybody I named

average points for their career, probably other than than Bo outlaw and Ritching. I think Pop-R-R-R-2, but whatever. Dennis Rodman, maybe. Like I said, for shits and gills. They were at the end of the list for a reason. And for me to include somebody who I really don't rock with in the list,

you know it was... Right. You put stars next to all the names. Yeah, who I went head-to-head against battle in their peak and their crime. A lot of names on that list. Right. But we, y'all didn't have no fours really at the time. No, not that I played against, right?

So this was, like I said, he's the day I've been taking shots at him, right? What shots have I taken on this couch publicly that anybody can point out? When asked the question, I was asked the question. I answered the way I deemed it, right? He wasn't included in that list. The person that was interviewing me brought his name up. His name never came out my mouth. You gave a list of players you thought were those guys.

Yes, yes. And they asked a rebuttal question to my list. I didn't say his name first. When we were talking on this couch, I praised him for his accomplishment for his career. but like I said, I can name 200 people better at basketball than him. That's not a fucking lie. Tell me when I lied. You're the 35th pick for a reason.

We're talking about basketball and skill set here. From when you got drafted to now, basketball skill set. We're not talking about your four championships. You did that. Cool. Absolutely. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about what you stand on.

That's what I'm talking about here, right? so for a person that's had more zero point games in their career than 20 point games what are we talking about here that's you going out there and scoring zero points 46 times in your career only scoring 20 points 44 times that's what you have done and not done that ain't me So under achievement, not so much, right? Me being drafted number one, right? Certain expectations.

You come into the league. I got you. No, but you come into the league, right? There are certain expectations you have for your franchise. Within the first two years of my career, I was playing in NBA finals. leading the team in scoring there's a very short list of guys that's actually done that

first two years of their career to be playing in the NBA finals shout out to my research guru Mark Gray shout out to M.G. I'm talking about so that list of people includes Elgin Baylor

Bill Walton Corrine Magic James Worthy was the number one pick on the team that won the championship the year before Hakeem they made it to the finals that year, the second year

but the year before that, guess who was the number one pick in the draft, Ralph Samson? So they had back back. Right? Tim Duncan and me. In the last 25 years, you know how many people have done it?

zero so who's underachieving here we're talking numbers and what I did from my team what I did not what nobody else helped me do second year in the league came in did what I'm supposed to do as being the number one pick

the next year following that made it back to the finals at 23 years old who's like we can keep this thing going, man. So he mentioned defensive player of the years and the all defensive teams, right? During my era of people winning defensive player of the year and guys that was on an all defensive team. The people that wanted in my era, Ben Wallace, four times. DeKee, Tyson Chandler, Dwight Howard, Ron Artez, Joe Kim Noah, Mark Goswold, Mark G,

Saul and Kauai Leonard and Alonzo Morton. And I left out one of my teammates Marcus Camby. So how can I, so in your error, Mr. Green, you wanted once, Rudy got four, Yonis, Marcus Smart, Triple J and Evan Mobley. Kauai got two in that error. So. That was not a woof-woof moment. Who is, like, what era?

And so, of course, and not to mention other guys who didn't win defensive player here that played in my era, and we're talking basketball here, you wouldn't have made a roster being at your skill set when I came into the NBA to my 15-year career. There was nothing that you could have did with me nor none of one of the power forward was that I named at their peak, at your peak of your career. nothing that you could have done with none of us you would have been an afterthought with that skill set we played in the post where real men played athleticism

skill set what I did what we did as fours in this league you would have been an afterthought nothing you could have did with me, nothing, nor one of these guys that I fucking named on any given night. So what are we, we're talking basketball here, individual, what you stand on, you're

married. And I stand on it, bruh. Like, no, you go ask the same people I named that I played against. Go ask them, go have this conversation. That's sit in the room. Let's sit in a room and have this power forward conversation with the ones. Go ask Tim, go ask KG, go ask Dirt, go ask the Marry, go ask them. And go ask the younger generation, Lamarcus Argers, Alge, what they, go ask them.

This is we're talking numbers and defensive ratings and certain things. He wants to mention defense, so go look it up and it's a fact. All time defensive rating regular season, mine is higher than yours. Playoff mine is higher than yours. So no, bro, it's, and your praise, if you such this great defender, and I'm going to stop, said you such this great defender in this era of non-defensive people, why don't you have more defensive player of years since you such this great defender, brother, in this era, The people who were known as defenders in my era, Bruce Boyne, Carolenko, these guys, like, come on, like, we're not feeling, look, we're talking real basketball, man.

Like, we're talking guys who did it. So we are, he's not a basketball. And, and not to mention, right, all defensive teams, I mean, all NBA teams, right? The simple fact, when I changed conferences in 2001. before, when I got to the West, the guys that played the position, K.G., Dirk, Amari, Tim Duncan, at my position, who is the best power forward in this era that you have to play against? and you only have two all-N-BAs which are questionable

because team success not what you did questionable all-stars not with them numbers not with those numbers all-star no since we know we're not going to do this

go look at like all-star not like numbers from real all-stars you last on the list my brother of real all-stars because you're not you're not

he's not last he's like count quarter's last that's last that all-star's last my position oh you're your position but still if we want to talk all-stars overall as well we can bunch them all together there as well

let you all do that I'm not going to let you do that and you don't even go I'm not going to let you do that who's the worst office Name one. Your numbers for an all-star. What's the worst numbers? Back in the day, they used to have to put bigs in their by positions, right? Who they put in?

Don't do this. It's going to work against you. Who they put in? No, it's going to work against it. But name, you said 200. Name a big besides KG and 8 that could bring the ball up. One of your point guards, a skill level. Which one?

That could bring a ball up? Nigel, they all did. Name it. 10. Name 10 powerful that can dribble the ball, go between the legs, and do a handoff full court and run a player. Name it. Name a skill set.

Tomorrow, though. You sound slow. But you ain't naming one. K.G. Antoine Walker. Nizantuan Walker. Boys, Dio. Andre Carolenko.

Chris Bosch. So Chris Bosch. No, but what you're saying is that's the one thing he does. The one thing the other ones did was score. But the argument, dribble and hand the ball roll. And they have 10 plus rebound. The argument is going better to him?

The problem is They rebound better? They rebound better? The problem is. What are we talking? We're talking about when you say someone's better, no one thinks about a defensive player. It's always your offensive ability.

That's all power force. Right, what I'm saying? No, that's. Oh, what are you talking about? Huh? What are you talking about? Huh? What are you talking about?

Huh? Name somebody that could do what he does. Name. Dennis Robben. Name. Dennis Robben better than Jamie Green? Come on, he can't dribble the boy. He can't score.

No, no, I'm asking him. A rebound and play the... Let's keep naming them, please. So you're saying, but you're only using one thing. No. I can name you 100 people who average twins. You're using one thing. You're talking about somebody...

Do that. Scoring. Just somebody's going to go it in the phone and score. So, it's only about four of them. I just told you. I just told you the problem is. is when someone talks about their talent and you need to stand on your talent as a basketball player. So how did you mean?

No one talks about defense. So Draymond Green. You don't talk about defense. You don't talk about Draymond Green asset is his ability to play defense and create mismatches for others. That's his ability. When we're talking about you got to stand by yourself, we play in whatever, one on one or one or what, that's how we look at talent. I mean, that's not so. No, no, no, no.

I get that. I get that. I get that. I get that. I get that. I get that part. I get that part. When it comes to his defense.

Yeah. In a defensive error. He was still making, he will still make a Hall of Fame, right? If you take away team success, right? So that means when you're talking about team, things you can, you're going to win awards on on a team. So that's the championships that will be first team and all start. You take those away. way. He still has nine defensive. He has steals champ.

He's a Hall of Fame. I'm giving him all of that. So he's still a Hall of Fame. Yes, give him his Hall of Fame. No one, you can't question that side. No matter what error it is, the defense is the defense. I don't want to take nothing. The rules change a little bit for him in his benefit, but rules is rules. Which in our era, it was two guards, two forwards, and a center. In 2015, when he wins his first one, it's two guards, three, big so that means two centers can make it three centers can make it three fours can make it right you didn't that that that that that center even if he wasn't that good if there was a power forward like somebody like draymond is

better than the center he gets into that so it's it's it helps him in this era but that's just the way it is just like they just changed all NBA yes where um yannis I mean not yonis but the mb lost the um what was it uh The MVP, he was running up the MVP, but had to play second team because one center is here. So they changed that, so he got a benefit. But in our era, as a power forward, you had to be a score. You had to be a good. That was a good at basketball.

That was the scoring position. So when you say, it was a big. It was a big. Like players like booze or average 20, they wasn't all stars. But what I'm saying. He's averaging 20 with that. Elton Brayne average the double-double. He's like there's Antoine Jamerson

average to double-double his whole career at the power four position. Like so when you're talking about who else? That position, that position was the scoring position. Who else? It's not top 25 for it.

Of what? All time. Of your skill or your, or are we taking your resume? Of what? Your resume? I mean, it has to go. Top 20 of what? If it's going to go skill, then yes, you got that.

But we're talking about resume. At the end of the day, Dr. But you can't say that for all time. But Drake, you're going to stay for your era. No, no, no, no, this is what I'm saying. We can't play this game. We can't play this game by ourselves. Are you crazy this here?

He's not on the top 100. Who? The list is out. Oh, yeah. He didn't make top 75? What are they talking about? Yeah, he looked it up. He didn't.

How many big you think is on there? You said top 25 power forward all the time, so. Well, listen to 75 wouldn't be 25 power four is on there, right? It's not. He's not. You won't keep taking up for him. If we're talking about it. If we're talking a skill set from an office.

Because he got to your ring, we understand. But I don't know. He got to your ring. I don't know what the argument. I don't know what the argument. Wait. I don't know what the argument. It's two different arguments.

We have to let him go now. No what I'm saying. It's two different arguments. It's going to get it. But we haven't heard from Nick. Nick has to now. He has the floor to explain. Instead of just saying, no, no, my God.

I could just name. No, no. Nick, we need you to. Oh, my law. We need to say it. You need to say it. Okay, how about anybody else? None of y'all could do what Draymond do.

Take somebody else off the list besides Bo Outlaw that I named. What is y'all talking about? You're not crazy. Name somebody that's off the list that I named. Just because it don't look good. Don't look how you thinking. Look, y'all game don't look good. Fucking just throwing hook shots at the rim is not good.

It goes in. Some of you niggas can bring the ball up. None you can make a play. All you could do is just sit there and throw the ball and rebound and dump. Gil, would you correct him? Gil, would you correct him, please? What the fucking you all talking about?

I did have four rings. Gil, what offense did we run in Jersey? He had 37 in the fucking championship in the finals. When he got fucking kicked out against LeBron, everybody knew the way he was going to lose that game. They was happy as fuck. Just stop, man. How many, once he's scoring the final?

321, and 7 in the game 7. That's stop, right? 32 15 and 7 in that game 7. And what happened? He does what he has to do for his team. Overcame all odds. Okay. 3-1 deficit.

So, yeah, how many, 32? 32 15 and 7. What is this? Had that in the finals as well? What is this? He had 35 in the finals as well. What is this? What is this?

What is this? I'm holding up. What are you saying, Nick? He had 32 in the finals. Okay, I had 35. Kenyan. What am I holding up? Oh, that looks nice.

It's an expensive. Oh yeah. It looks like an expensive back back. Very expensive. Yeah, shit. Chinatown. Hey, it still costs a little bit of money. Chinatown, Wanda Town, your mama town, whatever.

What's your town you want to go down? Bound Town. Nigger, it's cost a bit. That's y'all. You want to get it. You would say what you? Who is y'all? What is y'all?

What is it? Nick, I've been riding with you the whole thing. Nick, I've been rolling with you a whole time. So you, what you did do, you didn't correct him. He's, I don't want to hear that shit now. I don't want to hear that shit right at all. Because you didn't correct that, nigga.

So, man, he was in the backpack with the pillow. Yeah, so there's you. He was in the backpack. Oh, that's my fault. He's in the backpack with the pillow. You're going to fry you right with him. Four rings. Go fry you right with him.

Go fry you right with him. Don't take a shot at me. You can't say, whoa. To fry you right with. You can't take, I'm a shit. Don't take no shot at me. Go ahead. I'm on a couple of video games.

Boat pillows. Video gig. Four years. That's what my talent was. He's on the back. Back. No. No, but that doesn't.

No, what is the argument? No. Or whatever. Like. Here is how we do it. I can tell you right now. So usually people, when we're making an argument about who's good, who's good.

Okay. You have two different sides. Okay. You have size that put in at work, and you got size that have team success. Okay. Right? Okay.

So team success tries to trump people who did it by themselves. Hmm. That becomes a problem. But we all know as Hoopers, if I say, who is the best six men? Who would you take Manu or Jamal Crawford? Who do you take? All right.

Well, if we do that. Okay. Who are you taking? Jordan Hocod. Who are you taking? Who are you taking? So y'all go six rings. Who you can't do six rings and LeBrah?

Who you can't do six rings? I might lead towards Lou Will, but that's me person. Okay, who you can't do that? Jamal Crawford, who are you taking? You can't pick when you want to do points? I'm asking you a question. You guys can't pick when you want to do points. Who would you take between Jabal Crawford and Manu?

I'm going six rings. I didn't, I don't know who got six rings. You're talking about Jordan Kobe? I understand. You're all picking shoes. So I'm asking you a question. Hey, so Gil. Hey, so Gil.

would you pick Deval Fawford or Manu Janoke? Hey, go, let me ask you this. So, like, when we're talking about comparing players. So the fact that you didn't answer it, it let you know when we talk about who is a better basketball player. You could be a better basketball player. That doesn't mean you're the better basketball player for this fucking team. We're not talking about teams.

We took away. Yeah, but that's what the game is. We're always talking about individual. First of all, we don't play with ourselves. Hold on. Hold on. So you gotta do your fucking dog. Right in the day, if you put,

Dr. Let's talk about it. Well, Brandon, let's do this then since that's the case. I do this. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know. I don't. I don't. Let's do this. If you want to say it.

We like hypotheticals. Everybody are hypotheticals. I just have the question. Let's do this. Let's do this. Put Draymond Green on my next team. I'll do that one. I did that this morning.

I did that this morning. I don't know. Yes. I'll tell you no. No. I'm asking you. No, I'm asking. Yes.

No. Okay. Hell not, man. Okay. Would you not say that? See, Dr. Not here to answer that. Okay, put the Warriors in y'all error.

Do they go to the finals in your air? The Warriors go to the finals fucking four times. They went twice and motherfucking Detroit went back to back. So how the fuck you're going to tell me that go to state team when KD ain't going to the finals in your ear? Oh, that in KD? He played on that team Okay, well, pick him before That far yet

But this is what I'm saying What are you talking about? You feel like that 26-10-pathy? I don't like hypothetically Okay, let's not do it then Okay, yeah Well, let's take your reason Because Draymond has to go with his team

Just like Kenyon, Kian has to go with the net Cool, let me on my team and do what I did Right, right And then Drayman always Put him back on his team And his skill set is what it is Still what it is At the end of the day, who's win though?

He's still, his skills said, hey, and that was my best stuff. I just said the, that's called moving to go. How is that called moving to go? Can I tell you why? And what do you think Jemont going to have? Let me tell you out. I just said to go ahead. Ball,

what are you guys playing the criteria in the conversation. I just, the criteria of zero because he's had more zero point game. I just, but look, look, the criteria in the common team. So he's done that. He's all that's done that. When we're having the conversation of who is better, a player. Who is the better player? Who's the better player?

And Manu, not saying, he's a better team. Remember, Manu has four rings. Everybody just named Jamal Cropter because we know he's a better player. You're talking about all this. We're talking about when it comes down to the, I'm taking, I'm taking money. But you didn't. You didn't. I'm taking them now.

I'm taking him now. I'm taking him. Of course now. Yeah, Genoble, he's been playing a pro since 16, and you've seen what he did with his time. They were both six men and one. And one got, it was in the fourth quarter every time making the big. fucking place. Not playing around. Don't fuck. Don't do that lefty. It's right. But you did. But don't fucking

don't do that. No point of spacking out when I asked you. I'm not fast enough. I'm just saying. You're trying to have had a hard time answering it. Can I actually? I had to think. It shouldn't have been no thought to him. No, it's just because he liked him all. I do like Jamar. I don't have a problem, but what did you have to know how to do? Yeah, you're wearing a dirty. This is my dog. I just said who's your friend. Hold on one of the time.

That's why you're wearing. I thought the conversation of who was tougher. Who happened to the triple double? See, the thing is, hold on. So let's go back to the original. Let's get back to the original. Too many different questions. No, but that's what I thought.

I was asked the question. Okay. Right. So you've heard me say time and time again on this couch. Yeah. I justified him punching Jordan Poole. Did I? Yeah, yeah, sir.

I justified him choking out. I've tried to take up for him in the times that he's. Didn't wrong. In his moment of, like I said, Ragee, right? Marcellus asked me a question on their podcast about guys that I consider tough.

I didn't mention him. I didn't say his name. Marcellus did. That's how it started. Okay, okay. He came and said, I've been taking shots at him, constantly taking shots at him,

so he refrained from responding until now, which I still didn't take a shot at you, I gave my honest opinion that I feel what things that you've done to people have been calculated. Right. Okay. Okay. Okay. And that wasn't his response. Okay. He took it personal.

He took it. I was an underachiever. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now we go in the mud. Now we're in the mud, right? Yeah. So now we slinging mud.

So that's sling mud. Right, right, right. I'm winning. I kept it hoop. Everything I said is facts. We ain't got to say shit hypothetical. I give him his credit, where his credit is due.

He has four championships. He will be in a Hall of Fame. Yes. But like I said, my 27 minutes, can you stand on your own brick? Can that brick too heavy for you to carry? When them boys was out,

What did you do? When Steph and Clay was out, what did you do? Shot 41% from the field. You was the 12th leading score on that team. There was guys on that list that I couldn't even think about naming, right? What you do, line me and you up our careers at our highest peak of your career. Even after surgery, two micro-fractions, Patella surgery, right? This is me.

My nut. Your numbers or something still ain't better than mine. Three major surgeries that would have took anybody in this era out. In my era, it would have took them out. Yeah, yeah. Three, two micro fractures. Most people done after one. I had two.

Numbers still better than yours. I was done. So therefore, what I stand on is my career. What I did when that ball went up, go ask my fucking peers, what they think about Kenyon Martin. Go ask them the hell night in and night out. People want to score an average was this. You never did this and you never did that.

Go ask them when that motherfucking ball went up. Y'all should have did the who's the toughest man. I hear you. I hear you. I never said he wasn't tough. I'm just saying. I never said he wasn't tough. Hey, we're going to sit here and act like I don't talk about what I made

or what I did. Act like we don't talk about your boy on his house. Is he the reason you got that ring? Yeah, I did. And you're the reason you ain't got one. You're the reason you ain't got one. Take up one. You got more than everybody in your draft.

I stand on mine. Let's stand on the draft. Number one draft, his draft was asked, Draymond came out. That's just keep it real. Let's keep it real. Let's talk about shit. Yeah, we're talking real shit. Yeah, let's talk about shit.

What Kenyon did. Jason Kidd, carry your ass up there. You didn't help. Who left the team is doing? Let's keep real. Let's keep a real. Let's keep in the top five point guard. He had a top five point guard.

He won. He won. He got the job done. Yes, he got the job done. For four years. I played with Jake for three. Actually. You should have did what I did.

And you should have did what I did. I played with the who? You wanted to be scoring. Who? Who? I did my job. They got rid of you. I did my job, nigger.

I did my job, nigger. I got paid. No, they didn't get rid of me, nigger. I got pain. I'm just saying. I got paid to do it at a high level. I'm just saying. Have you ever been the top free agent?

No. Have you ever let your job? No. Well, you were. Have you did know, have you know, have you know, have you know, have you know. They came and got me. Off the corner. I did my job.

Off the corner, that's what I'm saying. He did. Oh, I'm happy. Well, speaking, like I hear you, came and got you off the corner. You even argue with him. I'm trying to take up for his boy. You're trying to take up for his boy, Nick. I mean, Gil.

I'm not going to let no part of that. You're trying to take up for his boy. You're trying to take up for his boy. You never, you never said, for me. You never should talk about it. No way, Nick, that's a lot. Oh, no, that's crazy. Nicky you're about to cry for you.

That part. That is crazy. Don't make this personal. No, I gotta make your personal. No, nigger me, you still owe me a car. Oh, that's crazy. You have to get my, grandpa, motherfucker, relax.

You know what? I'm just going to tell it out it is. That ain't even a Draymond Green jersey. A fuck. Swaggy, is that a Draymond Green jersey? That's Jason Richardson. Swaggy, is that a Draymond green? Hey, God, hey, man, oh shit.

Who else had that, 23? Who else had that 23? James. James. Jameson. Hey, he was Sacken on him. Mitch Richmond. Did he?

That's a Mitch Rishman. Is that a Drayman Green? Yeah. Is that a Jeff Pugman? Hey, when Kenyon flip that with this, We can't flip that down. C.J. Watson? Is that a C.J. Watson, mate?

I was in Milwaukee. Is that a C.J. Watson made, Swaggy? But let's, hey, that's all. Can you talk about, you talk about Swaggy defending Draymond? This might be wise. So let's talk about it. So Draymond also addressed another subject on his show. Oh, please. Let's get to this.

Going at some members or accounts for questioning the contributions of Swaggy Pee to the 2018 Warriors Championship Squad. One thing I want to share with King and Martin and Rashide McCats, you know, a couple guys who tries to attack Nicky. about his NBA championship is this. I know you guys don't understand what it means to win an NBA championship. So in an NBA championship, you have your guys who has to deliver. Me, Steph and Clay, we had to deliver. And then you have all your guys who, like, play a role. What I like to call him is swing players. As opposed to road players, I like to call him swing player. Your job is to swing

one series. And so when you go look at our championship run that Nick Young was a part of, Nick Young was the swing player in the Houston series. Game six or seven, Nick Young was one of the primary defenders on James Harder. Nick Young hit big threes. He swung the series for us. Guess what? Job done. When you talk about winning a championship, he swung the series.

What the New Jersey Nets needed Kenya Martin to do. They needed you to swing the series. But you couldn't swing the series, so y'all lost. Y'all got smacked. Yeah. So you saying that me... He's comparing me and you, right? They said I was supposed to do what you did, swing a series, right?

How can, so when the leading score is supposed to swing the series? I'm asking. Is that what he mean? Based on his criteria, I don't think you'd fit the criteria by the swing player. So what the fuck is this clown talking about here, man? Like, who's swinging what series? I'm a leading score on the fucking team in the playoffs and the regular season

who swinging who what what Jay kid was had a bigger name yes Jay kid was in all first team all NBA yes he was yes I lead the team in scoring and fucking rebounding

who's swinging what I don't fit that fucking criteria I'm sorry nobody want to be a swing like I don't swing Series. I help win series. I help put foot the ass

in series. I'm the main reason we swept niggas in series. I was a part of that. So me being a swing player in the series, no. Close out games in the series. Nick swept them in their house, 35 on their floor, 35 and 13 on their floor. Who's swinging what?

You let the team score? Yes. Go, it's facts, Nick. How much you average? It's facts, Nick. How much? Can I ask you go What does it matter? It could have been 10 10 points Nick

I let us to score with 10 points Nick I'm just saying 10 points I'm just saying it's facts You send it to me like I'm saying it to the world Because it's facts You can go look it up

You can go look it up I just want to know how much You can go look it up 10 points 10 points In the finals when we lost to the Lakers I average 22 left the team is scoring I'm talking about overall In the playoffs overall.

Yes, Nick. The whole season. You let the team score. Yes, Nick. And what was that, 20 or something? No, 10. 10 points. I average 10 points. More than 8.

What's your man average? He averaged 8 for his, his career. So I average 10. I did too. Yeah. In my short period of time. You got to it. And this is the 10.

25 minutes. I looked at this. This is a horrible father move that I'm fin to make, right? Uh-uh. But I didn't have this kind of information before when I first did it. Like, we're talking about individual

like what you do on the... No mind. Don't do it. Not mine. Can we all just get along? No, mine. But like I said. Can we all just download

the underdog app and use promo code? No, no, no, no. You get $100 of bonus entries when we play our first five-dollar winner-win-lose. I'm looking for when you hit. Then we all swung the series. I'm trying to figure out when you hit the shot. Yeah.

I just put the step turn right now. You ain't been in the game. So like Nick, I didn't want to say, this wasn't ever about you. You know what I'm saying? About you. Like, so I don't want to. So I don't want people to miss you shoot that this is about. You came in here.

Not trying to your motherfucking face. So I don't want this to make this about you because you don't know. You're naive in this shit, right? You're like, so. I don't want to make it about you. So. Oh, y'all got personal? No, he made it personal.

I didn't. The man called me an underachiever, dog. You want to bring certain numbers and stats into this shit talking about all this. I didn't. So you are collateral damage right now. My bad. Non-champions.

My bad. So I'm a non-champion over here. I'm a non-champion over here, yes, but guess what? Guess what, Nick? I get the same motherfucking love and respect when I walk down the motherfucking street as if I got five, four, five, six of them bitches. Because guess what?

It's a different between you. Because guess what? Having them. I stand on what the motherfucking I did, though. I walk down the street proud. But you're talking about this man or anybody else don't stand on what they did. Cool, they can. I'm talking about me and him.

That's what I'm saying. Me and him. Indivision. Like, yes. Like, people want to keep talking about what? Cool. Yeah, I get it. Give him his flowers.

Please do. And clear up the fact that I had your, see, you did. You did. You did. You did. What? No, no, no, you didn't. It was the day when I said Draymond was top 20 and y'all was naming everybody.

Don't say y'all. You said Elton Brand. It better. He knew that had nothing to do with him saying, we've been bullying you. About your championship. I have always been on your side when you were representing the Cornable. Nah, no. Nick?

No, he knew what the fuck he was talking to. Elton Brand better. He did not mention the name for may or may not. It's still not 20 people better at the party. At the power was powerful position better than Dr. Yes, it is. I named them. And some.

If somebody can average 14. And some. 9 and 9, let me know. Who? 15, 9 and 9 like Drayma. When? When? First year you made the All-Star.

That's one. The only one I have questioned probably that Dennis Robin. That's about it. When? That's always been my question. Dennis Robert is great by green. No, no. Because they're kind of like, that's the only one.

That's the only one I'm a question. No, is that they're in the same. category. Their skill level and they never average double figure rebound. So this is what I'm saying. But then it's right. You're supposed to need this. 13 rebounds a game for his career. But he never averaged eight assists.

I'm saying. Huh? He can't average. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm just saying they kind of they give me the same type of game. That's the only question. Other than that, I ain't. I ain't.

You know why? You know why Power 4 is no average eight is it? I forgot about it. I forgot about the ball. Because they throwing the ball to score. They're throwing it in the rims. They're not throwing it to 30. They're not throwing the ball in number 30.

They're throwing it in the rim. Nick. Nick, so you didn't watch. Did you watch what I? Nick, Nick, did you watch what I said? The average. When they threw me the ball, I was supposed to put it in the basket, dog. They run it.

When they called turn four, guess what? Hey, when they call turn four, drop four, when we call forwards out, reverse forwards out slash and all these other plays that we had to run, guess what the ball was going, Nick? Guess what I was told to do with it? Draymond, but we don't use these basketball for everybody else that we talk about. When it comes to comparing people. We don't do

that for no, LeBron to Jordan, no Kobe to Jordan, but when Draymond, it's about offense. Because you try to take away everything he won his defense players, his all stars, his championship, is all defense teams. But you want to talk about something. You know that everybody know

he don't fucking score. No, no. But you want to, you point out that one thing, but you try to That's credit everything You name it. You name it. You know, man, let's stop. That's what I said.

The fact that this man got more zero point games in this career and he was 20 point games. But he also got games where he had 12 steals, 12 rebounds, 12 assists at fucking zero points. So that's different. Nobody else did that.

Who did that? I said, y'all haven't done that. You're arguing a different conversation than he's arguing. All right. That's the power. Y'all haven't too. We're talking about people.

One talking about women. You said playing one-on-one. I said if individually, who are you talking about me and him? No. I'm talking about the people you name. Hold on. Let's say me and him.

Hold on. Let's say me and him, right? Why y'all let me and him play one-on-one? So that's the match-up, right? That's what you're talking about. No, no, so that's the match-up, right? Me and him play one-on-one? Oh, you said take away his championship.

No, so me and him play one-on-one. how you judge. I can score on him. Talent. Can't that's how you judge. You can't score on the gym with his body of himself. Talent. Just like I got y'all talk shit about Patrick Beverly.

What do you say? Okay. We all do it. We all do the same thing. When we're saying who can play, who's ball. We never mention defense. We don't think about those dudes. We only think about the niggas who can score baskets.

You have to argue for the defense. if you're arguing for the defense. Other than that, we don't, when we're talking about anything, we don't not name Draymond or Dennis Rahman. We don't name Ben Wallace's. We ain't talking about no motherfucking Bruce Bowens. They don't even exist in our world if we're scoring. I'm talking about basketball.

That's the part. I was going to say, y'all having two different conversations. That's why I said, even if you take away team shit, he's still a, he's still a Hall of Famer because his defense awards, just like Michael Cooper. The niggas were so dominant defensively They're going to make the Hall of Fame I want to take nothing from him

And he don't need to have no championships The defense is just that good In his resume You add the four He's first ballot Nobody's taking another from him Please don't take nothing Give it to he earned it

Yes You be talking about Yeah give it to him I ain't take nothing Give me shit absolutely But not You can't discredit And I just want to know where he did

You're not gonna call me Underachieve That what you ain't gonna do So I don't get a fuck What's going on I feel you Like I said It ain't go

I ain't going to let a white call me what either. Do you think he overstepped with the overachieving shit? Well, him or anybody's got to say. Two hundred people better than you at N. They are, nigger. So what's the difference? Because it's the question, if y'all going at it, you're going at it. There ain't no going at it.

I'm not about to. If you, if you can back up what your opinion is based on, hey, I can name a bunch of guys that are better than him from my perspective, I think these guys are better than him as a player. That's my opinion. You should not get triggered by that opinion. One, wait, when. So, so, now, yeah, your point back is that I underachieve. That's a personal shot.

I'm not saying. I never said nothing with him underachieve. No, I'm saying Draymond. I'm going at the people you said was better. No, no, no. Draymond went back at him saying you underachieve while you taking shots of me. That's them. That's what we're talking about.

What are you talking about? This is what we're talking about. When I said, Draymond's a top 20 player, y'all said I can name 200 people better. Boom, that was his opinion. He named those players. And I'm going to argue my opinion. No, but he is coming back and taking a shot saying you underachieve, you shouldn't be saying who's better than me or who's not. That's the point.

That ain't what he mentioned. That ain't what he went on. What sparked the conversation was the Marcellar shit about the tough guy's shit. Don't matter. He led with underachieving. He led with all that. at what started it. He underachieved.

He should have had more of this and more of this and more of that. You can't underachieve. I'm looking at the 05. Sharif Abdulahim. I'm not arguing. I'll argue my point. But it ain't about you, nigga.

That's where it's from him. He averaged. He's the 94th best score in the NBA average in 17. Sharif Abdul, Shariah. Sharif was cold. And he was a four. He averaged 18 for his career.

Antonio McDice was cold. I forgot. I forgot. I left him off the list and I was mad about it. So you didn't, because I was, I was like, I thought that was the first one. Juan Howard was good. He was on the list.

No, I'm just looking at, I was looking at just, just one year. I wanted, I was like, I want to see where the power forwards, like they're scoring. Like, who was the word? Like, you're talking about somebody at the,

I don't even know what team this was on. Who? Sharif that year. Hey, Shet, GVT. Atlanta. Atlanta. Atlanta. So a bottom-feeding team, this guy's average in 19.

Like, you know what I mean? The Power Forward position was a score. He made the All-Star team in 2003. Because the All-Star game was in Atlanta. Sharif was an All-Star in 2003, you know? Yeah, that's what I said. I'm just looking at some of the power forwards. Because I was waiting on their call.

The game was in Atlanta. They put him on the team. Well, he did what he was supposed to, but I thought I was going to be an all-star that year. So Chat, GBT-G-T agreed with me. What did they say? What did you chat, GPT? It's a short answer, yes. Draymont Green is Wiley-Ciciller.

top 20 power for and best in history you want to see it got GBT heartless so you know what word they put in their phrase Nick yeah I'm just hey I'm a bad there's a key word in their phrase

it's probably going to go over your head it's considered we know we're considered work considered work at the same place The short answer is yes Jay Mine Green is widely considered the top 20 power for of all time though he is not usually placed in the top 10

Read it all That's even better No I'm just saying We got two minutes AI is smart This nigga stupid is shit AI is smart

Both AI Just just I'm just saying Out the blue Why you're looking down 10 minutes That's what I kept That's what I kept like

Both AI It is what it is But like I said Get that man His credit please Like Please get that man Do you think that you

And Dramon can sit down There was the open invitation, brother. At a local Popeye's and honor a Popeye jump. Go on a show. Like I said, no, like I I said. We can sit down and ask wine. Listen, the invitation is out. There's open invitation. Domino, I know you guys are both Domino advocates. But you're not going to call me an old underachievers

is what you're not going to do. I'm saying? I stand on it, man. I played 15 years for a reason, man. Okay, 14 and a cup of fucking tea. Almost a triple devil. It went down to 15, pension. Damn, but I play games. But I stand on it.

That's all? Why he mentioned my name, though? I don't like you, man. Nobody fucking likes me. Hey, you are, nobody. The girl don't like me. Nobody. Nobody takes all the way to harm.

Does that help the algorithm a little bit? You don't think he remembers? I'm not a good-looking nigga that went my fucking shit up there. I was like, damn. Chuck and told Jackie Chan. Nobody like the girl don't like you. Like I said. But.

And rush out. Then you men like, I don't like you. So then you go to talking about. Like the shit that happened in college, like all that, like, now you really, because you know I got hurt my senior year. Okay, okay. Nobody has it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Like, the world knows Michigan State wasn't the one that motherfucker, man.

The world knows this. Okay. I didn't feel out of bracket that year because you got hurt just, I just wanted you to know that way. We was all disappointed day. I didn't want to even feel out of brain. Very, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no bracket. You know what? What?

Huh? We, we, we got them by 20 at home. I'm talking about, listen, bro. I mean, they were trashed. So then they just started to mention shit, right? So I put shit, I mention facts. So he's saying shit, I put in perspective. I didn't win rookie at a year because I broke my leg again,

my rookie year almost a year to the date. I'm saying? Yeah. Didn't get to finish my rookie year. Mike Miller finished, he won't rookie year. Search available online if you want you shirt. Shot, is that your own? I was going to ask you where you got the shirt.

I know. I don't know what a shirt. I got to serve from the chat. The chat, my dad. It's tax. It's faxed me. Shout out to the Eagles. Open invitation.

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