Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Their Top 10 Hoopers Of The Decade

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Their Top 10 Hoopers Of Each Decade as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew give their lists of their top 10 players from the 2000s & 2010s and spark countless hostile debates over where they rank players like Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Allen Iverson, LeBron James and so many more. After that, they react to Andy Roddick responding to Gil's comments that tennis players are no where close to the best athletes in the world with a challenge for a left handed only match and continue the debate on which sport produces the best athletes before reigniting the Kobe Bryant sidekick debate after Gil uncovered footage of Kobe Bryant acknowledging his place alongside Shaquille O'Neal. Next, they react to Richard Jefferson's take that Team USA will not win gold in the 2028 Olympics and debate who will represent the red, white and blue on home soil when LeBron James, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant all retire from the international circuit. Finally, they whip around the NBA to highlight newsworthy stories like Asian sensation Yang Hansen taking NBA Summer League by storm, Bol Bol looming as one of the final NBA Free Agents ready to make an impact on a new team and the release of the most negative fan bases in the NBA. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin, Nick Young & Rashad McCants Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA. Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE:    / @gilsarena   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   0:00:00 — 2 Min Timer 0:02:06 — Show Start 0:08:27 — Bradley Beal To The Clippers 0:31:01 — Gil's Arena Top 10 Players From The 2000's 0:56:30 — Gil's Arena Top 10 Players From The 2010's 1:39:15 — Kobe Confirms He Was A Robin 1:50:29 — Tennis Legend CALLS Out The Gil's Arena Crew 2:07:01 — Richard Jefferson's TERRIBLE Team USA Take 2:25:31 — MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa! Whoa! What's up? Big day here in the arena. Big day for the Bill family as well. A lot of stuff going on around the league. How everybody feeling today?

Yeah, man. We don't do that. We got the full couch. Yeah, man. Must be something special going on. Two more shows left including today before we take our summer hiatus. Yeah, I see you. Okay. Coordinating.

Swaggy got the big boots. You know. Said you're about 6'10 now. The Dorsey Anders. Low-key wouldn't be on this couch right now. 6'10? Yeah. With the boots.

175, three years, huh? Still making that, huh? But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog as always we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. We got NBA champion of the world Swaggy P Nick Young back on the couch. Next to him representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University we got Mr. B Brandon Jennings. On this side of the couch we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenya Martin back in the arena. And last but not least the man they call money-making sonny, NCAA champion of the Sean McCants. Showing love to the sick. The insanity coordinating as well.

Got to coordinate. So for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version mobile vertical version pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Since everybody loves player rankings, our Guildills Arena crew is giving us their top 10 players from the 2000s and the 2010s. Things should get interesting on this couch.

Obviously all these lifts are going to be different and unique, but we will discuss. Team USA struggled to win gold at the 2024 Olympics and will be without some or all. Wait, what the fuck did you just say? Did they dominate or did they struggle with? Yes. Yeah, what are you talking about? That was a domination in your opinion? Yes.

It was a little shade on them. Thanks, Adam Jeff. What the fuck was you talking about? Ain't no shade on a gold medal. That's crazy. Easy. Thank you. Somebody.

They never got within what? Six? What are you talking about? Steph Curry was night-nighting them niggas. They never got close. It was never close. We never got within six. We was up here it was never close double digits but got the six curry put it to six curry put it in none of this curry night night but that's

that's talking about that's domination domination yes you never go really 20 zeros that is not dominant never stood up that's you crazy never got close enough to just we they were we win you's not dumb. They were we we was with a Frenchie, right? She never felt good if she was looking at you different. She got this close then they had to sit back down. She was looking at sit back down. She who she got up. Got to get out you get up you get out.

She sit down but but looking ahead there will be without summer all the big three of Lebron Steph and Katie for the next go around. So will they still even be the favorites for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles get one of your former teammates? I had a spicy take we will discuss And Bradley Beale he had a spanking finally got bought out by the Suns And has agreed to sign a two-year deal with the Los Angeles. He got Lakers the Clippers Oh, where does that place them in the West? But before we get into all that,

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And whoever has the highest percentage of accurate picks will receive a large sum of underdog bread before we take our break tomorrow. So Kayan is currently in the lead 10 out of 11 picks correct so far. Fuck with me. Second place 9 of 11. Kayan we fuck with you. We already do. I've been tailing all your picks. Rashad has 8 of 11 correct. Brandon and Nick currently occupying last place, both with 7 of 11 correct.

That's it. So this is a showdown between Dylan and Kenyon right now. Oh, so my pick hit yesterday. That's what it's looking like. My pick hit yesterday then. OK. But Kenyon gets it right. He locks up the number one seed.

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first half rebounds this morning. The game is over and she hit. Kenyon might lose this one. Oh, that was a morning game? Yeah, but it went out. You gotta check the time schedule. So currently tied with Kenyon for total correct. Asia Wilson gets higher than 9.5 rebounds.

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We're 7-11. You guys, you're both cooked. You may be able to combine your picks together. I won, I won. Angel Reese. What was the call last week? I was about to rebound. So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading

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said three-time all-star Bradley Bill agreed to a contract buyout with the Suns, plans to join the Clippers on a two-year 11 million dollar deal with a player option after clearing waivers. So according to Shoms, Bill's giving back nearly 14 million out of the 110 million on the final two years of his contract to complete the buyout with the Suns, who will likely waive and stretch the remaining salary over five years.

The deal with the Clippers includes a player opt for next season, which could lead to unrestricted free agency and another contract next off season if things go well for Bill with the Clippers. But before we look at the future, let's look at the past. How would you sum up the Bradley Bill era in Phoenix?

I think it wasn't that bad. The questions on this guy, man. What? It's weird. The balls of the, the nerve of you. God. Damn, lately it's just been out of the blue. A big time move.

No trade clause. Huge expectations for been out of the blue. A big time move, no trade clause. Huge expectations for that Sun squad. The highest payroll in NBA history did not make the playoffs. And what was that question again? KD gone, so how would you sum up the Bradleyville era in Phoenix? And then what'd you just say right before that?

I gave a bunch of information to add context, contextualize. So you said they had the highest payroll in NBA history. In the history of the Adam Silver's National Basketball Association. Equal, they did make the playoffs. There were injuries involved, there were situations. So what you think? I'm not allowed to think, can you? I'm allowed to merely host as per my...

I'll try to act like it never happened. Yeah, let's just move on. But he did. Are you supportive of Bill getting his bread though? I think close to $96 million? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Does he continue to get your bread?

He gets to pick the team he wants to go to, that team being the Clippers. That's he got your bread. New situation, try to. Oh, you're going to get that either way. So shit, that's wasn't the question. You got to men in black that, boy. Forget it.

Set it and forget it. So let's shift ahead. Clippers now have a projected starting lineup of Harden, Bradley, Bill, Kawhi Leonard, John Collins, Ivica Zubak with a bench that includes Brook Lopez and Boggy Boggy. How formidable is the Clippers starting Bill. Not all at once. General please. Are they fucking nice? They do it to me. You like that crew swaggy. I feel like I don't want to say it's an upgrade.

But he's kind of back in the same similar situation, you know being the third man was Kawhi come back. But James is more of a point guard. Oh, he's a point guard. I like I Can't think of his name in Phoenix. They were trying to make him a point guard, but he's never booked like Devin Booker The point guard by committee, but he just said they were all out. He definitely would get the ball I'll go in there with a chip on my shoulder, you know. I don't mean to interrupt you, brother, but can I get a shot, please? It was requested a shot.

You know, we're just bringing the ball. Why y'all not happy like I was with Dane, man? He got it. We're happy that Bradley Bill gets his bread. We're just a little disappointed. The man's going to get his money no matter what. But. Had a lot of options out there. Yeah, this started.

He could've went to Lakers. Just bring the bottle. Two teams in Los Angeles. Just bring the bottle. He could've went to Lakers. That started five. There was 29 teams you could've potentially. That one of them did that.

Yeah, that started five. So you say James Bradley, Bill Kawhi, John Collins. He's the Zubot? God damn. AKA Zupac. Man, they about to win. Well, T-Loose should put, I'm saying, if he gonna put Brandon Bille in a bunch of

catch-and-shoot situations where he can be effective, I think that's, but, we gotta run plays for him, and that shit is, they gonna be, Yo, they gonna be slow as a motherfucker, bro. They, they about to win the chip. That's my team, in a way. Who?

That's my team. Well, they playing in the half court. See all them people, you just named?. They're playing in the half court. See all those people with your name? And they got to play in the half court though. You said James, Bill, Kawhi, Collins. That's half court. Nick, that's half court 90s basketball.

I didn't even think of that. You didn't think about it? What? You really didn't think about it? What, that's half court 90s basketball? Oh, you didn't think about it. What's the conference? Are the Oh, you didn't think about it, Nick. Bullshit. What's the conference idea? The campaigns of the world are a bust.

All they did was got PG back. Same team. Sean, you're referring to Paul George and now with the Sixers. Same guy. Bradley Bill coming to the Clippers. He's not hurt, though. I'm not talking about hurt or anything. I'm talking about just as far as the player, the skill.

Same player. Same type of player. For a system that didn't work for them at all. It would have worked. Huh? Would have worked. You said it would have worked? It would have worked.

They got him playing the half court. That's all. Yeah. It's been five years. I'm talking about. It's been five years. I'm talking about, oh, oh shit, we talking about today. Yeah, we talking about today the team.

Bradley Bill is not coming to the Clippers to be Phoenix Bradley Bill. So he's going to be less than Phoenix Bradley Bill? He's going to be better. And no matter what, he's still average 18. With them two motherfuckers. EG average 24. The two people that don't pass that just know how to score. Now you got James that wanna pass. Do he wanna shoot? You gonna be happy now. Do he wanna shoot?

Shit, he wanna shoot. He dying to shoot. So Bill average 17-4, it's his three rounds last season, 53 games. We did shoot a career-best 57% from two pointers last season. If the, I see you getting inebriated early now. It's not even in Los Angeles. It's just some times in life, man, where somebody, sometimes people just cause you to drink, become alcoholic, so everybody, I just want y'all to know. You can't be having that walk today. If I bottom out, moving forward,

y'all know where we're started. That nigga right there. There's a lovely freeway underpass on Winneka. Bradley Bill. How was it? You could have got him for Jake. I got that nigga Jersey sitting on the goddamn hallway. Bill, right in there.

You feel like Bradley Bill betrayed you by going to the Clippers? Jersey sitting on the goddamn hallway. Bill, right in there. Mm-hmm. You feel like Bradley Bill betrayed you by going to the Clippers? Don't say his name no more, man. Because then I got to disrespect my friend. Going to the enemy out of all places. He about to get his phone. Going to the fucking Flipper Clippers.

Flipper Clippers. Flipper Clippers. Oh, he was supposed to go to the Lakers. That's right. He missed it. He didn't get the script. I didn't get the memo either. He didn't get the script.

I was very angry. Out of all the teams that you could have went to, for me to still be a fan, you go and heighten the fucking side chick. It's like this when you buy the side chick a car, because she got pregnant. Now you're stuck with it. That's what happened. I thought you were about to say your ass.

That's hard. You get that off the jump. Give her new ass, little upgrade, little titties and stuff. But this one she got pregnant and you got this. Right now this is that jello ball, man. You gotta call your girlello ball, man. Gotta call your girl, hey man, we gotta, I gotta. I gotta get married, man. I gotta get married real fast. Yeah, I done knocked somebody up, man. I'm not coming home.

I gotta leave you. Baby, I'm not coming back. Word on that corner, whoa, whoa. Make it on that honest woman, man. Let's try. Yeah, and then reality kicks in. Reality kicks in and you gotta leave her woman. First time. Yeah. And then reality kicks in. Reality kicks in, and you got to leave on 2. But yeah.

Because now all the Clippers, man, Clippers fans is the worst fans in the world to be. Like now I got to think about getting a jersey. I got to think about reality right now. A potential bandwagon you would consider joining you Unfortunately, man Clippers pot does look nice on paper looks nice. We got that starting five. You got it now already where the James Harden's Already got a hardened Jersey

Already got some old clipper stuff. So I mean it could be easy transition, but I grew up not liking them So I mean it could be easy transition, but I grew up not liking them When LA you know you support all your LA stuff when you a Laker fan you just automatically inherited hating the Clippers So you're not rolling with that Like that five just replacing you with bill? Just replacing P.G. with Bill. You had Norm Powell. You traded Norm Powell.

It's a better five. Bradley Bill is not a defender like P.G. Lord. Was. Half court team. He not an ISO player like P.G. was. During the regular season. I think, let me be honest, I just wanted him.

The best one, the only one that really runs and runs consistently is Avicii Zubac. Yeah, and then they got a backup big. Then they got Brad. That shit nasty work. It's done by Donovan, Jarrett Jones, Batum. You got Lopez. That's the same shit. That's a decent playoff team, but regular.

You gotta get there. No, because they're half court. So you don't think they. They got eliminated by the Clippers. I hear you, but I'm saying. We haven't did anything different. My last loss in my career was from the Clippers. It was you.

My last basketball game, losing against this Clippers. Did you dap them up after the game, or did you just walk to the locker room? We had a good old time. That was fun. We was winning in the hotel room. That was fun. We was winning. We was winning for sure. That was fun.

Right, you stopped by in the hotel room? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, they stayed in the hotel room. He stayed in the same hotel room. All he had to do was just come on up to the penthouse suite. Because he had just got there. I was down there at the restaurant eating oxtails. I had Shakira come from Orlando, yeah. She brought me some oxtails on the plane.

And you took those to the restaurant and made your own food? Absolutely. I was in a restaurant downstairs eating oxtails. Own food in the restaurant. You made your own food in the restaurant. I like it. Dead ass.

We signed Jake from Allstate. They got that. Jake Larabi, a gift Larabi again. For 12. For 12, the same two. They got Bradley. For a million dollars more. That's nasty. They got Bradley.

Y'all got Bradley Bill and Brook Lopez in the offseason. That's nasty where it clippers. What? That's nasty. No Lakers, no Lakers, no Lakers. All-stars. That's nasty. At this point in their career.

What are we talking about? At this point in their career. Brook Lopez also considered the Lakers best. Brooke might take him a little further. Who? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Just because of his presence. No.

He can shoot the long ball. That shit is bad basketball. And they never had a big that can shoot. Come out there shooting that motherfucker. 27, dog. That shit is bad. Look, James Harden at the top. You need a younger big that can do that.

You need a younger big that can do that, do the same shit. Well, there is one, currently still a free agent. I'm just saying, bro. The son of Manu Bo. Yeah, I just, I look at it. Oh, Bo Bo. Good basketball player, absolutely. But I'm just looking at,

they're gonna have to play in the half court, bro. Man, you're not gonna have a ball all the time. Yeah, that's my thing, man. Like, you're gonna have to run plays for Bradley Beard, you gotta run plays for Kawhi. Gotta get him hot, gotta keep him calm and all that. The ball ain't gonna move enough. It moved last year for Powell.

Why you? He was aggressive as shit. And he playing fast. He get out and run it. He was the youngest one of them all. You talking about off the bench Powell? James kicking that bitch up. Yeah James kicking that bitch up to go on Powell and he been aggressive. For sure. Nah man. They ain't rats, but fuck you.

Good, being brassical can dress the fuck you. It ain't five teams in the West better than the Clippers right now. Five teams? Yes. There's not five teams better than the Clippers in the West right now. There's not?

There's not. Five teams better than the Clippers. The Thunder better than the Clippers right now. Who said that? The Thunder better. Are the Nuggets better? Yes. Are the Rockets better?

Yes. No. Spurs? Yes. No. Are the Lakers better? No. No. Burrs? Yes. No. Are the Lakers better? No. Was Skinny Luca?

Mavericks? Slovenia? Luca? No Lakers? Lebron? Just Luca? Y'all had it one- Summer League Bronte?

No. Mavericks? No, Mavericks is alright. Y'all offseason. Mavericks is alright. Jake LaRabbi, okay? Man, I'm not picking a Maverick. I know.

Who they gonna- I learned about you. Who they gonna say who's? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass?

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Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? Who they gonna pass? I'm in Texas. Every team in Texas is better. I'm not rolling. I don't get how y'all like pushed the KG move to the Rockets and he was on the same team getting his ass kicked, but they're a championship contender. Yeah. It was sexy last year. And Bill comes to a two hall of fame. A not championship contender. Took us to a game seven.

A not championship contender. Took us to a game seven. A not championship contender. A Bill away from winning. Bill away from winning the championship. Are you serious? championship contender, a not championship contender. Took us to a game seven. A not championship contender. A bill away from winning. A bill away from winning the championship. Are you serious?

Well, he was on our team. It was a big man away from winning. The big man didn't show up that game. He was a, he got the yolkitis. The yolkitis. That's all. Yeah, you really pulled it. It really wasn't supposed to be a game seven.

The first game they tricked off. Then you get a magical tip in like come on man. And I can see them being OKC. But you're essentially getting Bradley Bill one year deal. Very low price point. Get a pissed off Bradley Bill. Was told to play like Drew Holiday.

They still gonna be playing in half court. Listen, they can be mad. Yeah, was told to play like drew holiday. We get it like cool. He's basketball play let the league is going before all those things exist. But oh, he definitely got a chip on his. This is three four years removed from that and. How was it?

Bradley bill. So this is a half court basketball team, dog. And NBA, these boys playing fast as shit. Mm-hmm. 30. 32 years old. That's why I look weird out there with them. I saw them say they're not changing nothing.

They just did. They turning into the Grizzlies back in the day. So realistically, looking at this roster, as it stands on paper right now, where do you rank the Clippers in the West? Routed off a bunch of teams. But what number do they fall in? They're top three.

Were fifth last season. I give them six. With Kawhi missing a ton of games. No more, no, no more power. He was a big part of that, so. The potential for a healthier Kawhi, healthier. Yeah, I'm, yes, all things. Five, six. Five, six.

Yeah, there you go, I got bits okay Yeah, you look like you Why play 37 games last year obviously not how hold it down Not the same guy man it looked like look like it this year, shit. It's a little somber here on the couch. Hey, nigga, who you like, 37 years? I'm sorry, that shit look nice. What we doing with LeBron?

We treating him like shit. I don't really like that right now. You don't like it? I would agree with that, Swack. I really ain't rolling with that. I don't think we need nothing else. The Lakers got a great ass team. That's a great team.

Great ass team. Great ass team. A very great ass team. If you treating our second star like he ain't shit. Who's the second? I know we got Luke. Who's the second star? The guy, we got God.

We got God. We got God, okay. But damn. You know what I mean? Sometimes I be hoping that I got a, You throw this motherfucker. And I forgot them niggas they turned on God Keep them peasants to the side

You know what? You know, he made me feel better. Okay, we need that's all we needed was Luca. All right I know God was black, but he turned to white white Jesus. So Slovenian Jesus looks very American eyes we American eyes. She's not eating American food right now But I did get some good news from Brian he's saying Space Jam 3? No. What's the news here? I'm not killing you, nigga.

Space Jam. You don't get the check no more, brother. You don't get the check no more. You thought y'all were done. You thought you was in. I told you. When you didn't show up to the little Barbie doll, you didn't get the invite. Then he wasn't fucking with you man

He's seen these reports and they said he was one way from being a goat Hmm. All right. It was one vote away from taking over number one. Oh So he wants that vote He want that vote Got a barbecue business My life Well, Brian still have a 310 area code on his phone oh I don't know. Well, I'm just gonna wait you get drunk and you're going to spill the beans anyway. Yeah, I don't know. About two shots away.

I don't know. You know you can't keep a secret. Three shots away from the wall. The same. But as it gets on this couch, you get billed for that amount of bread, one year basically. He gets the opportunity to opt out next season, become an unrestricted free agent. How that situation went down in Phoenix, you don't think he's gonna come out and try to prove the naysayers wrong?

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and they got Zupac which is Bagi bagi. No, no, I'm saying Zuback is. They got basketball. They got basketball. They got a solid team. Solid team, good coach. All that still exists, but I'm just looking at the way they going to, I think they going to have to play. So you saying what I've been saying is having adjusted from the half court game. Yeah, they gotta play fast.

Yeah man, cuz James and Kawhi in the half court, nigga, is full motion. I don't think T-Lew can coach young guys. Yeah, probably. That's probably what it is. I don't think he can coach young guys. He's too straightforward, too, his expectations is win now and I can't fucking trust you, so give me some vets and guys I can trust so I get it I get it too I'm sorry I dig it but it's just

the way they gonna play is so Kawa need his touches Kawa need his touches he need to get his rhythm Bradley Beal has to get touches to get his rhythm in order to not fast I'm saying no no no he runs he runs but he's not fast he runs the system he No, no, no, no. But he run, he run. But he's not fast. He runs consistent. But he run. Who is the contenders?

OKC still the number one contender? That would probably be him. You think? Yeah. Denver. Yeah. Minnesota gonna get Minnesota better. I forgot about Minnesota.

Lakers improved. Shut up Josiah. I'm taking the Clippers over Minnesota right now. Kenny Luca? That's the only guy at the DeAndre. Warriors. And Jake Larravia. Taking the Clippers over the Warriors. The Kenny Luca? That's the only guy I had at the Andre.

Warriors. And Jake Larravia. Taking the Clippers over the Warriors. The Warriors, they gonna be a, as long as they still got them, they gonna be whatever. Jake Larravia, the first policy. At least them three. At least them three. Just them three.

Papa DeLamont? San Antonio gonna be better. You don't think Houston? San Antonio gonna be better, bro. Houston, we have gonna be better. You don't think Houston? San Antonio gonna be better, bro. Houston, we have a fucking problem down here.

Man. Huh? Yeah, Houston. Houston has a fucking problem, bro. Everybody passes. That's almost another cheat code for KD. KD created a whole other cheat code for himself. Niggas minds messed up.

Superstar it here now. Oh, superstar it here? Gonna be thinking about, damn. Can I shoot this or I pass it? You don't have to shoot that shit shooting that little shit You know not to shoot that shit? Shooting that little shit. Not this year. Are Warriors a formidable option in the West still? I think so. Six-seven. Six-seven. Okay. They got Steph though. They got 30 Mr. B. They got a free playoff. Bradley Beal, I mean Jimmy Butler from the beginning of the season. Steph Draymond. I don't know who.

Camila is gone, ain't he? They still fucking with him. He has no restraint to free agents at this moment. That's already just kind of, you already going into the season kind of. Absolutely. And heard a report that all the reports about the contracts they offered were not accurate. Brad was very disrespectful. A very disrespectful offer off the jump. According to reliable sources.

I'm going to say what they give them, 30 for three? Damn, nasty man. We can get that right. Like Bill. Man, one for 11. Yeah, the Clippers going to be all right. Not a respectful offer, but we asked the chat, do you like Bradley Bill on the Clippers gonna be not a respectful offer but we asked the chat do you like Bradley bill on the Clippers? 50-50 split

In the chat on this couch now rolling saying the half court game Good skills to all that shit a good pro. Yeah, they be but it's slow as shit, man Slow as shit according to Kenyamonger. We will see. Season is a few months away. Halle will do it. Kawhi plays may put them in a better situation but nonetheless let's keep it moving. So Monday we addressed Bleacher Report's top 100 NBA players of all times list. Took some issue with some of the rankings including Kobe being ranked 11th on that list so since everybody likes to make top players list nowadays and since we are the new media we asked each member of our gills arena crew to provide us with their top 10 players from the 2000s and the 2010s so for the sake of clarity and transparency the 2000s list is from 2000 to 2009 the 2010

list is from 2010 to 2019. So we're gonna go around the couch, look at everybody's list, discuss a little bit, see how we feel about it. Let's start with Mr. B. Here's your top 10 players from the 2000s. Yeah. This is Mr. B's list.

Got Tim Duncan, number one. Kobe, two. Shaq, three. Brown, four. KG, five. D-Wade, six. Dirk, seven. Got Tim Duncan number one Kobe to Shaq 3 Brown 4 kg 5 Yeah, he weighs 6 on Dirk 7 Allen Iverson 8 Jason kid 9 Steve Nash 10 guilty So mr. B what were the important factors for you in ranking the players on your list Well, this is what I've really started to understand basketball and love it the most. So I mean, Tim Duncan, what he's done in that decade, back to back MVP, you know, Kobe

Bryant went in five, Shaq, LeBron, you know, there was just, you know, it was just different back then for me. Steve Nash, seeing Steve Nash, Steve Nash made the list because two time MVP, nobody was really expecting that. Jay Kidd went to the finals twice, back to back. AI, you know, got his team to the finals and really expecting that. J. Kid went to the finals twice back to back. AI, you know, got his team to the finals and things like that. So some good memories back then watching in early 2000s. A lot of nostalgia. So Mr. B, you presented the factors and reasoning and logic behind

your list. I want everybody on the cast, how do y'all feel about Mr. B's top 10 players of the 2000s. Yeah. Why 10 at one? Why 10 at one? Back to back MVP's in that area, 1-3. In that area. Finals MVP. Alright, well. you want three? yeah not error

let's keep this thing moving next we'll move on to the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff here's Kenyon's top ten players from the 2000 Kenyon you're up, Kobe number one, Shaq two Duncan 3KG4, Dirk 5, Allen Iverson 6, LeBron, James 7, Steve Nash 8, D Wade 9, Carmelo Anthony, rounding out the list. So what was the main criteria for you? We know that you use your own unique specific criteria when ranking players.

What was your main criteria used when assembling this list? You know, it's eye test for one, competition for two. A lot of these dudes I played against. Accolades for some, MVPs and all of those things. some MVPs and all of those things and the effect of what they did when they first came in and so yeah just basketball. Just basketball. How does it feel about Kenyans? I like it. You rolling with it? Yeah. You said Carmelo. Say it again.

Hey Carmelo, I like it. Thought about it. Yeah, no, it's... Got six years in the deck, yeah. What he did, you know. That's my favorite, Mello. All right, so now let's move on. So I will read these lists first,

and then we will put them up on the board. We're gonna move on to Swaggy. So Swaggy, I'm gonna read your list of the top 10 players. Okay. Kobe 1. My list gotta get read. What? Everybody's list is getting read.

You got Kobe 1. I can't even like, the stepchild we okay We're gonna I'm gonna read the first not fantasy you can read mine we got Kobe one Duncan to Shaq 3 Brown 4 kg 5 ai 6 d weight 7 The truth Paul Pierce at 8 dirt Dirk Nye and Dwight Howard. Yeah. I used a little bit of chat GBT, you know, just to see where I was at, you know? And I was right on point, you know? There you go. I didn't really, I was like confused with, should I put Steve Nash in there just for

the two MVPs? But his numbers didn't stand out that much for me, so that's why I kind of left him out and put Paul Pierce in there, because he did win one during that era. And just was a bucket, really. You said Steve Nash numbers wasn't like that? Spudger football, his MEPs. His efforts to double-double, led the league five years in the system role.

But it was what, 15 and 10? That, 12. I dig it, I show it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, no, I consider Paul for mine as well. I put him, but I looked at the numbers and all the NBAs and all that stuff. It wasn't there. So, yeah, that's not dig it.

I say it was out of Paul and that. But LA brethren some love LA from LA and he just proved he needed some players. That's all he needed to win one. So and the white for me changed the game when he came in. And he just proved he needed some players. That's all he needed to win one. So, and Dwight, for me, changed the game when he came in. He was dominant. People were scared to go through the paint.

Went to the, you know, finals off of, you know, being a live threat and blocking shots and shit, you know. Scared. blocking shots and shit, you know? Excuse me. I always think it would have been higher, but it kind of got injured towards the end of the 2000s, you know? Yeah. Kobe is Kobe, you know? Rings, impact, 81, 64 and three quarters,

everything, so. All right, well, let's move on. We got money making sunny. I'm going to read your top 10 players list and we'll put it up on the board. Why would you do that? Huh? And why would you do that? We'll read it first.

Let the couch digest it. Let him read his own list. You want to read your list? I don't. Never mind. So you got number one you have Kobe but Kobe wearing number eight. Number two you have Kobe. Number 24 Kobe. So two Kobe's first and second. Third you have Tim Duncan, fourth Shaq, fifth Iverson, six KG, seven LeBron, eight Mello, number nine Dwight Howard, and last but not least, the jersey that you're currently wearing in the arena, number 10, Vince Carter, Vince Sanity,

rounds out your top 10 players list. What were the factors that impacted your decision to put Kobe twice on your list? Kobe eight and Kobe 24, number one and number two. Well, I mean, he was voted as a player of the decade already. So I wanted to slice up that first five years, 2000 and the last five years of 2000, cause I got to see both of him.

So number eight was crazy. Number 24 was a little bit less crazy, but still crazy. Okay. Tim Duncan, of course, you know, he did his thing. Shaq was Shaq for those first six years. AI did it for 10 years. He's probably second behind Kobe, as far as doing it with consistency. KG had that marvelous run in I think oh four, three or four. But he was always consistent. Brian is going to be Brian, Mello, Dwight, I feel like how Brandon said,

like he's hard to kind of like figure out like how good Dwight could have been. But when he was in there for that for that time, he was crazy. like this particular Vince was, he was everything until Kobe got that mentality and started killing everybody. It was different. So got to throw Vince in there. How about some of the couch feel about Kobe taking the top two spots,

number eight, Kobe number one, number 24, Kobe number two. Creative. Shod fashion. Yeah, that's could be number two. Create a shaw fashion. Yeah, that's for sure. Right. Each year was allowed to use your own criteria. You were not swayed or influenced by anyone else. I had to change it.

I changed the list because I had them at all 10 spots. You did have, was it just 824, 824 all the way down? It was eight at first, like all eight. And then I switched it to 24s and then I was like, yeah They're gonna be mad at that. Yeah So yeah, put them twice instead All right, so last night But he was what team he was on this Orlando to he was on Orlando after it. Yes, and then Orlando, right?

Orlando was in early in 2000s, right? Right? No later. I thought you were saying, oh, we got old fast. Yeah, yeah old fast. That's something like right after oh nine though. Yeah, you got old fast. Last but not least we have we have Gil Gil you have your black book with your listening. I believe I got my own list.

Okay, so wave me off. My more dramatic. At 10. See the difference? At 10. Hold on. Let me see if my mind reader, no. Not, okay. I got Jason Kidd.

Seven-time All-Star. Five-time All-NBA player. Eight-time All-Defensive player all NBA player, eight time all defensive player, four time assist champ, one ring which he was at the end of his career so. What year was that? Huh? What year was that? You're right.

Take the ring. I'm just asking bro. You're right. My bad is asking, bro. You right, you right. Oh, my bad, it's your list. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, bro. Take the ring. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

No, I didn't mean to do that. Stop you just reading. I thought you was just reading off. I didn't mean to do that. 10. I didn't mean to do that. Jace Kid. 10.

Got him at 10. Yeah, cool. This is his list, 10. Number nine. My bad. Wade. Even though he had a short list, short because he got drafted in the middle of the season.

But, middle of the decade, five time All-Star, four time All-NBA player, one scoring title, made the defensive team two times, finals and finals MVP. At eight, dirt. Eight All-Stars, nine All-nbA's one time MVP That's it Seven Steve Nash Six time all-stars six time all-nbA three time assist champ to back-to-back MVP's and

Those are getting graded on a high grade because he went to a team that won about 19 or 20 games And then he boosted that bitch up to about 62 So he does get credit for that at six is another person from the old three draft LeBron James five all-stars five all-nbas is another person from the 03 draft, LeBron James, five All-Stars, five All-NBAs. He won one MVP, two All-Star MVP, a scoring title and Rookie of the Year in a short period of time. But that did put him six. Five. KG. Ten All-Stars, eight All-NBAs, won a defensive player of the year, nine-time All-Defensive team,, won him an MVP and he got his ass a ring. God damn. The ring don't count.

Yeah, it's a secondary. No. No. Oh wait, you're right, you're right. I'm a ring guy. I thought it was a ring. I'm like, hey, it's a ring. Oh wait, my bad, Gil.

The ring count. And then the guy will change the culture Got the WNBA players looking just like him. Oh shit. Yeah Ten all-stars six all-nba's Four scoring titles meaning, you know what I'm four scoring titles two all-star MVPs one MVP Got him at folk three diesel said nine all-stars seven all-nbas made the defensive team three times three all-star NVPs got him a scoring title got him four rings and three finals NVP's

At number two He should be number one But I'm gonna put him at number two he is the most decorated player Here I Call them triple ten Ten all-stars ten ten all-NBAs, ten defensive teams. That's Tim Duncan. All-star MVP,

three rings, two back-to-back MVP's and two finals MVP. He should be number one, but I got him at two. Now, number one, obviously, Mr. 24, Kobe Bryant. Number two, number one. Number two was Duncan. No, I said he should be number one, but I got him number two. Now, number one, no no I said statistically Statistically because he swept the era in every category. So Statistically, there's nobody better in that era There's a decade ten years. You got ten all-stars ten all-in-b. So you said no, but it would decorate Why should he be number one because I'm going to my number one? mmm Because I'm going to my number one Mm-hmm Why you like you're reading? Okay, go ahead. So I said statistical

Oh, that means now my bias kicks in and put number 24 now. I've seen a bunch of people in the chat Saying the jerseys fake and that's how I know you're not real Kobe fan So fuck the fuck off if you are a real Kobe fan, you would have knew this was his freshman year jersey. And then he changed the 33 for his daddy. So y'all need to, you're COVID fans. You're COVID Kobe fans. You're COVID Kobe fans, bro. This is authentic, baby.

Relax. Okay. All right. Now at one comes Bean. The first year Kobe fan. I really don't need to read this. Okay, all right now at one he comes being The frame for your company don't need to read this right you gotta let it go we know what this nigga did the reason I have him number one is because He started off the decade

as a Pippin, as a sidekick, not my words, the words of the media. Battled for the Batman spot, challenged who they call the most dominant player ever. He challenged him for the crown, won the crown, got killed by the media that said he wasn't a winner. He was selfish by running him out. He can't win without Shaq and he went on won a scoring title after the year that Shaq left. He didn't average the 30 something like they said he should have with the bad team he had. He ended up averaging 35 the following year. He ended up making all NBA first team on defense like they said he wouldn't have.

He got his team into playoffs even though they had him 13. So everything they said about him that he was gonna fail, he prevailed. In that part of his era, that 04 to 07, 08 is the reason he won decade, player of the year, and the reason 95% of all players have him number one, because when you kicked him when he was down going through the troubles he was supposed to fail and he

didn't so with his stats adding on all the factors that was thrown upon him he prevailed and that's why I have him number one for the decade just in case you do need to know what he did 10 all stars, not all NBA's, nine defensive teams, three all star MVP's, one MVP, two scoring titles, one finals MVP. Yeah, I went through all of that, but I wouldn't go write all that shit down like him. You know me, but yeah, I did the same thing.

Yeah, but I wasn'tna write all that shit down. I read it. Okay, this person here had paper and messed up. Like it was tearing paper up and shit. You were tearing papers up throughout the process of your player ranking? Yeah, because he was changing the list. I was writing them down where they belonged. And all that shit, he don't belong there.

And you got to start the list over. And yeah, so it was a process but. And foreign scoring titles. I didn't need those. Yeah, that's why. So let's go, let's go. So the reason like, so J.Kid, go ahead. So like J.Kid wasn't on my list, right?

Thought about it, fought for it, like, yeah, we're teammates, we did this, and we two finals, but if the championship would have been on that side of it, then that would have put him, you know what I'm saying? Just like for my list, that's all. You know, it's really impressive, to be honest, what Mello, Wade, and LeBron did,

even though they came in three years into the... They came in four years. No, they came in four years because it's an immediate... 03, 04, and the stuff that they did in that timeframe, because they don't supposed to make the list. Yeah, an immediate impact. Right, so, you frame because they don't supposed to make the list an immediate impact, right? So, you know, they don't supposed to you know making it if you go back to

MJ in the 80s. He's not top three in decade player for that decade because he comes in and you know 84 so that's 84 85, you know what I mean? So it's not like they got to do so much in a short period of time So that's 84, 85, you know what I mean? So it's not like they gotta do so much in a short period of time. Question. What kind of tattoo does Shaq have on his arm? Superman. Superman.

What does it say underneath the Superman tattoo? Man of Steel. So are you Batman and Superman? Didn't Batman get that Superman tattoo? I mean, I thought he was Superman. Me too. So we can't fight for the Batman spot. Yeah, but they did. Because you are already Superman.

Ain't Superman supposed to be better than Batman? They're teammates. I know, right? They shouldn't have, I mean, if one is Superman, they shouldn't have been fighting for the bat name. Yeah, that's why the media always gets it wrong, because it seems weird if you really look at it. You're like, but he said he was Superman. The man of steel. He had a movie man of steel. So how are we following this narrative? We're following a dumb narrative that Kobe's robbing when dude is not even Batman. He's Superman. Literally. He's literally Superman.

Like that's the real crazy part about the media. I get it. The media is doing dumb shit like saying you're this guy and you're not. You're Superman. He's Batman. You ain't no Robin. You're like Dwight, right? No, I, yeah.

That's the reason. Superman. But I get it. But back then, you know, I guess when Batman and Robin came out, you know, the show, right, it was the hero and then his great sidekick, right? So Just naturally in sports Every time they seen a great two people two great players They refer to them as Batman and Robin and that was just the name of it

So Kareem and magic Batman and Robin I get it. Pippen and what's the name Batman and Robin? If Michael Jordan would've had a Batman tattoo it would've made sense. I'm just, yeah. I get it, so it was just- Michael Jordan and the Batman tattoo, we'd be like, yeah, you Batman Scotty, you gotta be Robin.

But this dude got Superman on his arm, coming in. Ain't no way I'm playing Alfred or Robin. Super media, so y'all been fucking up this whole time so we can bring this shit back up to correct it this time. Superman and Superman. And Kobe is the super dog. Yeah. You know, he had the super dog.

He had a little super dog. He was assisted. But then he ended up, they didn't have to call for Kobe. Carmelo, Carmelo. That's how y'all treat him like a dog. That man is super. He just tag alone.

You just tag alone. He's a dog. Oh like he's not a little tag alone Dog oh, it's a dude named Andy Bailey Andy Bailey wrote the The reason why we put Kobe at 11 shit You ain't got a backtrack bro. He show this you can do it you won't But it just don't make no sense where you got a tattoo of superman, but he had cool and we calling you Batman Three had Kobe to add to my so yeah, I don't make no sense when you got a tattoo of Superman. And we calling you Batman. Three had Kobe, two had Tim at one. Yeah, I don't know. No.

No, you had Kobe. Four Kobes, one. One, two, three, four. So Mr. B had Tim. So rest of the couch. I had Kobe. I said one. I said statistically, like if we go through stats no bias

So you really would know stats in bias like our star This is these are our like you see right there says Kobe one So if I would have so I said I got Tim Tim is really one but Kobe's my favorite. So he's Yeah, then he's one Right. So wherever you put number one what does that mean if i say yes he's really one that's him he's really one i said so he's my favorite statistically for this for the decade he has all the awards his awards he's number one but my bias kicks in and puts him in them you you know, it's like, that's my favorite girl, but you marry this one.

Who's your wife? There we go. For everybody that doesn't understand decades, decades starts because how the NBA is, it's 09 is 99 to 0. Oh, that's crazy. Because we saw it can't be, oh, it can't be 2000 or 2001. So because it ends on that, it can be 2000 and 2001.

So because it ends on that, it ends in the next year, you go 99 to zero zero and then oh eight to oh nine. Just if you understand, trying to understand decades. So you include the whole 99 year or just that part of the season, the 99, 2000. So 99, 2000. But 98, 99 wouldn't.

98, 99 is the end of the last decade so Tim Duncan don't get the championship into the 2000 because he's the last winner of the 90s decade what if it's halfway through June no that's how that happens ladies. Just fucking dudes. I'll be fucking with you. No I think July would be the July 1st would be the cutoff. Anything past July 2nd. Relax, man.

Relax. Before we do, I want all you gentlemen to get your phones out. You will read your list for the next segment. You can go from 10 to 1 let's do it if you'd like to do an explanation similar to Gil Nah, how we did it? Don't need to do all that If you don't need to do all that you say I don't need to do all that I could read the list for you if you like. Mm-hmm

So let's move on to the 2010s which technically starts 2009 that season 2009-10 season. Okay we're gonna start with you this time if you can read your list from 10 to 1 descending order and if you'd like to provide any context for why you made the picture you did feel free to have at it. Yeah, so I already stayed. I did the homework and read every wrote everything down and all MBAs going to all that stuff is included and I test and all that shit as well. 10. I got Anthony Davis 9. I got Giannis 8 Chris Paul, 7 Dwight, 6 James Harden, 5 Russ, 4 Kawhi, 3 KD, 2 Steph, 1 LeBron. Yeah, you know, it's pretty self-explanatory.

Got MVPs, finals MVPs, guys that have triple doubles for season. I could have put Dwight on the first list, fought with it, decided to put him on this list where he belongs, in my opinion. Anthony Davis, body of work, all NBAs, all defensive teams, just yeah, championship don't count. But what he did in New Orleans and here's numbers Yonis what he did in a short period of time

The last part of the decade He deserved to be on it Chris Paul is our best point guard pure point guard guard of our, of that generation. So yeah, could have put him on the first one with other guys, with LeBron, Mello, and Dwaye, and them dudes. But I think what he did in this decade was impressive. But yeah, so yeah, that's the list. It's a good list. How does everybody else feel about Kenyon's list?

Just taking a look at his top 10, 20 tenths. Do y'all see you smiling? The white, the white kinda, cause I was thinking about Laker, Dwight, and Houston, I did. Yeah, that's why I stopped at 2000. 2012, I was like, Dwight, I didn't get more after that. Made it to the final in 2009, 2010 season.

11, 12 he left. I could have put him on the first list, but the numbers and all that shit. I looked at Amari's numbers and all that. This man got defensive player of the year. Three of them, all that. So it's hard for me not to acknowledge the big, get a big, some love. So yeah. I was fighting with that Yannis. I was fighting with that Yannis.

I was fighting with that Yannis, boy. I was trying. I had scratched him out. Like I had scratched him out. And Kade is for the record. Dwight made the finals 08, 09. 09. Yeah, yeah.

But you are Kane, so we will bump it up. He came in real quick at the end. Still counts. It still counts. Came in real quick at the end. Yeah, so he came on strong at the end. He got MVP. So the end.

Had to put him in there. But no, that's, it was a few other people that I considered for both of my lists that had great careers. Just some of the numbers, all the MBAs, and their, at their highest peak was short-lived. So, I kinda held that against them to a degree. For sure. All right, well now let's move on to Mr. B.

Mr. B, can you give us your top ten players list? Go 10 to 1 for me if you don't mind. 10 to 1. And if you want to give some explanation for each of the picks. No, I'm going to just name them. Number 10, Dwight. Number 9, Mello. Number 8, Dwayne them. Number 10, Dwight. Number 9, Mello. Number 8, Dwayne Wade.

Number 7, Chris Paul. Number 6, James Harden. Number 5, Russ. Number 4, Kawhide. Number 3, KD. Number 2, Steph. And number 1, LeBron. So what is the decision making for your rankings

on your top players list of the 2010? It was tough because it was a player that I wanted to put in there. I wanted to put Draymond Green in there. I just feel like for what he's done and being part of that dynasty, you know, winning defensive player of the year three time All-Star, I wanted to put him in there. That was a tough one. But no, everybody I just feel like in that era, you know, it was their era, you know, Russ, MVP,

you know, Mr. Triple Double, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard got two rings. So yeah, I feel like that's just my list. That's what I like. And the Chats noticed that both you and Canyon, both did not include Kyrie in your list. Yeah, that was a tough one. Considered him your list. Yeah, that was a tough one too. Like I scratched Giannis out and put Kyrie in there and then I looked at like one MVP

in the deck, so I had to, that wavered it for me, right? So that's, the MVP wavered it. So, but no, I scratched Giannis out and put a Kyrie and was then I thought about Hello Kyrie one of your favorite players absolutely. I know absolutely so now I struggle with it But now he definitely not to take nothing away from if you could have yeah, so Mr. B you also consider Kyrie on your list. Yeah tough decision had to be made. It's the top ten I understand hello the Mellow one. It was the Mellow one for me. Yeah, I consider clay. I consider Kyrie. It's a top 10. I understand. Mellow. The Mellow one. It was the Mellow one for me. Yeah, I can see the Clay. I can see the Kyrie. It's weird. What?

CP made it over Kyrie. Yeah. So why do you feel like that's weird? I just, that's just a weird feeling. I just look up. It's just like, damn, Chris Paul. It's on mine as well. Yeah, I mean, I'm not Kyrie. I'm not being biased.

That being Kyrie? I'm going by Chris Paul's work. This is each of your lists. I'm not being biased. That be a Kyrie? Champion Kyrie? This is each of your lists. These are your opinions. It's by their work. You're in, you're out. You're in, you're out. Okay. First team.

Like I said, I could have put him on the first one, but it was a space for him. I had J.Kid, Chris Paul. You're in, you're out. Melo top said. Consistency. But Dwight was only two years in this whole. Consistency. 2010.

I could have had Dwight on the first list too. I struggled with which list I was going to put him on. That's weird. Number seven is weird. No, not at number seven, just him in the list. Period. Kyrie not in there, and he in there the list. Not Kyrie, not in there and he in there. But what did Kyrie do besides win the championship? No, I got Mello in one.

Just this one. Yeah, but I wasn't gonna have Mello in here. So what's Chris Paul? I like Kyrie. Oh, you like Kyrie. You like Kyrie? Okay, I don't got nothing to do with it. I like Kyrie too.

Me too. I love Kyrie. One of my favorite players in NBA. Kyrie well liked on the Gills Reader bad. I like Kyrie too. I love Kyrie. One of my favorite players in NBA. Kyrie well liked on the Gills Reader presenter. I'm under the woo woo. But like I said, I can't wait to see your list. I'm sure everybody's waiting to see it.

I'm glad you said that. No, no, no, because I know him. I want to see it. It's a simple list. Yeah, like I thought about Paul George for the list. Like I thought about it. Yeah, it's a lot of it. I consider it. I had Raymond Green in mind. Yeah, like I thought about Paul George for the list. Like I thought about- Yeah, it's a lot of- I considered-

I had to make my agreement with him. Because you got to- Like, first, I considered Mack, I considered Vince, I considered all- No, no, for the other one. For the first one. I'm just saying, these dudes who- Yeah, like- He makes me get picked on none of them.

Who that? He makes me get picked on none of them. All the NBAs and all that, it wasn't- Damn. Damn. After all that, all that. I thought he was Kobe, right? All that. You could replace him and you, it wasn't. Damn, damn. After all that, all that. All that, you could replace them and you ain't nobody put them in no list.

You just forgot about it. You put them in though, you would put a bed plug and play, right? After all that. I don't think those damn old. I think it was after all that. I don't think you're talking about. After all that. But look, not for the decade.

But look, this is funny. Not for the decade. For the decade? For what, just the two years? For Matt. That's all he was saying. Not for the decade. For the decade? For what? Just the two years? For Matt? That's all he was saying.

Not for the decade. You can put anybody in there at any rate. Yeah, that's what he was basically saying. But Kobe ain't really that good. Hey, like, no, no. Your list is going to be funny because I know one thing. You're not going to put LeBron One in this decade, and I know you're not going to put Curry One because Curry just went over what's-her-name. You're not gonna do that.

So your list is about to be funny. Go! So, oh, who's next? Without Curry? No, I just am next. He's laughing at Chris Paul, and I wanna see who has- I mean, I coulda put D-Rose in there.

I've already seen him. Who has to put one? Sure, I coulda put D-Rose in there. There's a lot of- I can see your list. How can I see your list? Like, I had to put Russ. I just don't.

No way, no way. You're not gonna put LeBron one. Gotta be Russ. About who? Gotta be Russ. We're gonna have to put Russ. I'm not serious KD Russ he's gonna put somebody He's not gonna curry one not just after this fucking news if it wasn't the news then he would have jumped the brawn he's not gonna have one and do we get to let the chat pick who got the best list or whatever I believe the polls only have four options there are five of you all right well let's move the money making sunny your list is your list your opinion is valued on this couch. It is your opinion and yours alone. Do you want to read your top 10 list from 10 to one?

I do not want to read mine. So you abstain from reading your top 10 list. I will read it for you if you would prefer. Go from the bottom. Make it interesting. From the bottom to the top. 10 to the one. Sorry, I want to let you do your job.

I will try for one and a half more days. So at number 10, we have Kawhi. Number nine, Mellop. Number eight, Kyrie. Number seven, Westbrook. Oh, number six, Lamarcus Aldridge. Number five, Kevin Durant. Number four, James Harden. Top three, and number three, Steph Curry. Number two, LeBron Ramone James Sr. Number one on shots list, top 10 players from 2010. Kobe, 24. I don't hear a round of applause or nothing.

God damn, it's the most anticipated and the most disappointed. Y'all niggas are something else. Just get my money back. God damn. So Sean, when you look at your list, how did you come up with the rankings for your content? 85, yeah. Obviously you guys all have your own unique criteria. Fuck. You question, hold on. I got a question. 85, yeah. Obviously you guys all have your own unique criteria.

Fuck. You question, hold on, I got a question. You question us having Chris Paul on this, you got Lamar? I didn't question, Sid, I said it's weird. I didn't ask a question. Well, it's weird that you got Lamar on all of these clips. That's good. So that's all y'all had to say about me.

It's good that I'm still here. But you questioned it though. I did, and I said it's weird. But you brought us a question. It is weird. It's weird. I didn't say it's not a question. No, it's questioned. It's weird. It's questioned. No, not at all. It's questioned Yeah

Yes I'm just saying you said I guess weird cuz we had Chris Paul No, I said it's weird cuz he don't like Chris Paul, but he uh, but he's not biased He's been honest, but that's why I was weird He's been honest because he was being biased with his number one pick. We didn't say nothing about his bias. It's not. What are we doing?

We had Chris Paul on our list. He's from Orlando. Just did the same shit. I'm talking about his name. The couch takes some issues with the Marcus Aldridge, seven time All-Star, five time on the NBA selections. He's in that window. Show him his love.

Oh, I put him on there for a reason. It was him or Amari for me and I'm not looking at the stat. I'm not I'm not the stat man stat man with all the gentlemen shot shot. I'm not doing stats. I watched this shit man. I watched the game. These guys were very instrumental from top to bottom. Kobe didn't get to finish this shit.

I'm not gonna stop it because it's because he got hurt based on any of that. And then you look Brian killed it. Steph killed it. James Harden killed it. Kevin Durant killed it. I'm putting Lamarcus in front of Russ only because I lost crack of the account of like what the numbers are. That's diabolical in itself. I was just, cause actually I didn't put no numbers on this thing. So he put the shit in the numbers. I didn't ever categorize. But that's how you sent it to him. I just sent it. I didn't ever put one or two.

And look, it's empty right here. He put Vince at 10. I had it. You made sure. He made sure. We can't read, bro. Backtrack on what? On backtrack, man. Backtrack on what? What the fuck are y'all talking about? Stand on your left, man. The fact that you got Lamarca over Russ is crazy.

You said you didn't put no number. That's all I heard. Yeah, I did. It's right here, nigga. Ain't no numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah It's right here. They got no numbers. Yeah, we get it. What you talking about? We get it. There was no numbers. There was an order. We assumed that that order.

Do you see this empty spot? That was Vince. He sent my Vince at 10. I had Vince hired. He put the shit in the wrong spot. Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah.

So let's put your list. I'm going to watch your numbers since you didn't want to read it. I do your list now. Let's put your list. I'm gonna say what's your number since you didn't want to read it. So I do your list now. Do your list now. But the fact that you got Lamarcus over Russ. No, no, no, let's see your list. That's the list. Yeah, that's what we know.

We know Lebron wasn't going to be. So are y'all disappointed or good? No, it's weird that you got, it's weird that you got Lamarcus over Russ. You can have Lamarcus over there. That is weird. I really would have Russ way higher. It's weird that you got the bogus over Russ. You can have the bogus owner. That is weird. I really would have Russ way higher. Like I said, I didn't think of Kyrie.

I just threw all the top guys. I thought in the top 10 of the last 10 years, I'm like, these are the guys. I'm going to honor these guys. I'm not going one, two, three of them. I'm going to say, these are the guys. Who is better than these guys in this time? It's hard to say for me. I'm not gonna oh one two three four five six seven. Oh, we're moving here No, no, they all the niggas are do a call. You didn't want to read it. Okay. Yeah, we're not gonna read it

Yeah, like them first four look like it was in order They just don't they just not where you want them to be and it's gonna So is six is six six or six ten I know the six look like a six or does it look like a ten? Well, that's your list So why are you not standing on your list? I'm standing on the list. Okay, what do we win? Nothing. All right Opportunity to have great discussion in the base. Your list is yours.

It's okay. Why do I know six? No, Marcus, this is nice. It was nice as fuck. It was. All great players. I didn't do the list now. These lists are all based on your opinions.

We're not here to judge. We're here to love. Make it a thing. Make it a thing. I'm going to Batman in there. I don't do any clipping. Once the show ends, I go to little league practice. I'm gonna put Batman in mine.

So it's real, you know what I mean? Why don't you put Robin in there? Because I don't know who's the Robin. I don't know who Robin is no more. No, I'm saying, I don't know who. This is 2010 and 19. Fuck out of here with that shit, man. 2010 and 19, there's only a few Robins

that was actually Robins during this era. Yeah. Who was a Robin? Name all the Robins on this list. Um, uh-oh. Curry was a Robin a couple years. Mm. Everybody on that list. Robin, I mean, Russell Westbrook was a Robin a couple years. Mm. Everybody on that list. Robin, I mean Russell Westbrook was a Robin a couple years.

Everybody on that list. Kyrie was a Robin a couple years. I can't say Mello was. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no, he never was. I don't know if he was. Lamarca's Arches was a Robin.

Yeah. To Dane. To who? To Dane. Everybody became a Robin. I don't know. No. Lamarca.

No? No, I don't think so. With Dane, they played together. I don't know. No. No? No, I don't think so. With Dane, they played together. I don't know if he was a Robin. Is this the media criteria for Robin, or is it the player? Let me get this straight, cause I'm gonna try and figure it out.

And I think Kawhi was a Robin. Kawhi was like, not even a Robin. He was just one of the players, then he turned into a Robin, then he turned into a superstar. So, most, there's only a few guys that didn't play, like Kobe wasn't a Robin. The Bron was a Robin. Bron wasn't a was Robin and Kevin Durant was never a Robin

So Luca This is not 19 19 2010 and 19, but I'm just saying I'm just saying but there's two thousand in the 19 That's I'm just looking right there the year. So Curry was a Robin? Two times, two years, yeah.

So those championships don't really hold weight for Curry, right? I don't know. We don't know anymore? What's your criteria? What? What's your criteria? Kobe doesn't get credit for three championships because he played Robin. What's your criteria? What the fuck are we talking about? That's curry doesn't get credit for two championships because he played fucking Robin. Yes, so

How is he retired in Kobe? Ask the voters. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, I mean Yeah, you put yeah, you put curry third KD fifth though. So you didn't feel necessary that way. Oh You felt curry was the Batman. I felt they were Superman. Okay. And Batman. Okay, who was who? Yeah, they both.

KD was Superman. Okay. For sure. All right, well let's move on. We got two more lists to cover. Oh yeah. But before we do, download the Underdog Gaffies promo code. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pickin'. Help us help you. Oh, it's mine. Swaggy, we still have your list, cover. But before we do, download the underdog app, use promo code, get up to a thousand dollars in bonus cash plus a special pickin. Help us help you.

Swaggy, we still have your list sir. Let me find it. Once I got my list. I will stall while you find your list. If you can read it from 10 to 1 and if you'd like to add any context or explainers to any of your selections, feel free to do so. Hey, can I just throw something out there? I'm just be honest with you. You know how like we won't vote so we can start voting for people's careers? I don't know if all of us deserves vote. I'm just gonna throw it out there. I'm just gonna throw it out there man. I'm just saying man, I don't know if I'm the motherfucker on my career talking about The Marcus Aldrich. I guess it's me personally. I just I'm like, yeah, I'm good How many are starting to get scared?

It's a sound play I'm just like, I know this niggas in there like wait a minute dawg Wait a minute This one gonna kill him right here This one gonna kill him, hey they forgot about him A good man This one's gonna kill him right here. I'm sure the person's very appreciative. Hey, they forgot about him. A good man. I'm just being honest. All that shit you did

in the dead can't even blame it on Marcus Walters. Who voted for that? My man's gonna fuck you up then. The people I picked. So Swag, without further delay, if you'd like to read your top ten list, please go to table one. I'm like Jordaneing. I'm talking about Lamarca Waller. So Swag, without further delay, if you'd like to read your top 10 list, please go take a look. I'm like Jordan Farma, that's, yeah. Saw Jordan Farma summerly, he said,

what's up, this swag? Can I redo my little sweat? I can't have him looking like this, man. Let me do my thing. No, no, no, no, no, hell no. I got, I got, I got. I'm going 10 to one. I gotta put. 10 to one. I'm just saying I gotta pee. It'll go fast. I go fast. I got

Anywho, I give you would like to be top top ten list, come on man. As picked by yourself. I got, um, Comp 10 at 10, Demar. Comp it? Oh, okay. I got Demar DeRozan at 10. I got Draymond at nine. Clay at eight. Okay. Kawhi at seven. I mean, yeah, Kawhi at seven, Kharee at six,

James at five, Russ at four, Steff at three, Katie at two, LeBron at one. I picked Dreymon because of impact. He changed the game, was part of the most dominant team in his era, clay tooth, second greatest shooter we ever seen. When you say change the game, like what? Change the game. Motherfuckers went small, everybody went small.

To do what? I think you mean like far as like what he's done. Like him being a defender and being able to like, you know Be the anchor of a team and a championship team I think on the run for sure You know the fact that you can come down you can make path you can you can do more than just a matter He talked about Draymond green oh Like like reason why he has Draymond green for rings There's a better reason than no mark so you gonna speak for him because you thought about putting him on your list to then

Yeah, I understand. I mean, I mean the three times all-star so you don't fucking speak. So yeah dissension on the couch right now He was a Do that shit three times all-star, let's not do it. We've been so He's an anchor, yes. He's a top 75 player. I mean, shit. No he wasn't. No he's fucking not.

No he was not. I'm saying he is a top 75. No he's not. Dennis Rodman? Fuck no. Dennis Rodman is. Yeah he is. Dennis Rodman is.

Dennis Rodman is. Dramar green, not in the top 75 list. As we know it. One's in the top 75, one's not ones I'm just saying what's the difference? That's your little cool you want to put them on your little but that's not acting like like y'all niggas boy like what? He did his thing so I'll say how we start to get out of the I hate your list on like your list No, it's not coming out slowly though. It's coming out slowly. The mark is a deserved I said the fact that you had him over Russ.

I picked my list. But it's my list. But that man's body of work is what it is. It's cool. A lot of people were left out. His individual body of work stands for himself. That's why I picked him. So that's cool. Let's not act like Draymond was fucking Lamarcus Aldridge. He was doing what? Let's not act like Draymond Green is Lamarcus Aldridge. He was doing what? By what? That's not act like Draymond Green is Lamarcus Aldridge.

At all. He's a champ. At all. That's the only thing he has on him. That's the only thing he has. It's not even close. That's the only thing he has on him. It's not even close.

That's the only thing he has on him. It's not even close. That's the only thing that Draymond has on him. All right, everything. That's the only thing. Everything. We're talking about basketball here. Everything.

We're talking about basketball here. Everything. We're talking about basketball here. Okay. We're talking about basketball. Everything. We're talking about basketball here. Okay, Leroy Parkinson's score, what else he can do? Nigga, there's not. What else can he do? I can list 200 people that's better at basketball

than Draymond Green right now. Name it. Name me 200. I'm just asking. Name me 200. Name me 200. Championships aside, we're talking about Bannon. He just won.

Going out and playing basketball. He was just there. Boy, you crazy. He was just there. Nigga don't know how to win He's just there It's great Buckets or what?

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I don't need him to do that over here. Is he a better basketball player? I need him to be a 6'6", I need him to be a 6'6", center. He is. And make everybody else try to go get somebody like me. That's what I did. There's only one Draymond Green. Yeah, it is.

Obviously, shit. There's only one Draymond Green? That's all it is. But I asked for questions. They tried, and nobody came close. Is he better than them guys? Shit. Draymond, 30% of the championships in that decade.

That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. That's a lot of people. That's a it is. But I asked for places. They tried. I asked for places. And nobody came close. Is he better than them guys? Shit. Is he better than Al Jefferson? 30% of the championships in that decade. Cool.

I'm with him. I didn't take nothing from him. I'm not. He did what he did. Absolutely. I'm with him. I ain't never said nothing bad about Draymond Green, but I just want to know, is he a better basketball player than them dudes?

That's all. Is Dennis Robin is? Is he a better basketball player than Draymond Green? No, Al Jefferson. Then who? Al Jefferson. Is Dennis Rodman? Yeah, yes.

Okay. I can answer that, yes. What's so far off? Please tell me. I want to know what's so far off besides impact and being cool. Dennis Rodman is better than Draymond Green? That's what I'm saying. Please.

Al Jefferson's giving me 25. Dennis Rodman's better than Draymond Green? Yes. Y'all are crazy. impact and being cool. Dennis Rodman is better than Draymond Green? That's what I'm saying. Please. Al Jeffords is giving me 25. Dennis Rodman is better than Draymond Green? Yes. Y'all are crazy.

Rough Greens. Too much Rough Greens. I smell the crap. Y'all are crazy. Too much Rough Greens and you died. Too much Rough Greens and you died. Y'all crazy. Too much Rough Greens and you died.

You better go look at what that man did during your out. score, pass, rebrand, he do it all. You know Dennis Rodman won a defensive player the year coming off the bench? Mm. OK. You're going to look at what this man did. He came off the bench one deep.

This man had 16, 17 rebounds in the year. Boy, y'all better stop it. All right. 17 rebounds. But I'm just saying defensive player the year off the bench. Never happened before. You're in my grains, all NBA twice. Twice.

I mean, for a guy who's just a defender. So they did more than that. Dennis Rodman as well. And look at what he did. Defender. I'm rolling with Draymond top ten. Top ten who? Seven time rebound champ.

Had to go with Mello. Lot of rebounds. And why? Yeah why yeah? Why? Why did you pick mellow over Draymond in vibes, huh? Nah, just get a rough green. Who the niggas over there? Dog food. There ain't no dog food. There's a rough green.

Boy, don't do that. So you speak for them and that's your guy but you ain't on your list and you that. I'm just saying I'm a boy. Nah, it's weird. Kobe and Nick, Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick.

Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. Kobe and Nick. I Number fuck is he talking about the white plate numbers fucking Lamca's are played for Portland he was a San Antonio Bar think I was playing with the bar Right, what did you say? What did you say? She's at the end. The niggas played four or five years. What did he say? What did he say? What are y'all talking about? Fuck the white niggas. I love the white niggas on my team. Niggas after Kobe killed the niggas.

Nobody knew where he was no more. That was 2012, 2013. And you got the rest of seven years after that. Y'all picking dumb shit. Mellow got cut in 2016. Put this nigga in your top ten. Goddamn. You talking about Draymond. top ten. God damn, you talking about Dre Man. What the fuck is y'all talking about?

Better basketball player. Talk about basketball. For six years. T-Mac should be on everybody's top ten. One leg Melo, no leg Melo. T-Mac not on nobody's top ten. Better basketball. He's better than everybody on the list.

He's better than everybody in the top it's from 2000 To 2010 Oh T Mac. That's what y'all say Who's y'all? Come on Focus Into it Right there People around the league was saying that Matt yes, that was the conversation

Say I said it nigga. That was a car There was a conversation it wasn't no y'all can you come up with it? We didn't come up with the shit that was the conversation back then So what I do better basketball when he when he averaged 32 points again, I just named and Kobe average 30 They actually get a ball. It was a conversation. I actually have the pole. It was a conversation. I didn't come up with shit, but I still wait on my but I actually awaited my answer. Snap that, put that. I actually have to pull. I'm backtrack all the time, man. I'm lying.

I don't know what's next, man. It's your feels list. We ain't done. Fascinating, man. We ain't done. That is our show for the day, ladies and gentlemen. No, I'm just kidding. You want to read that?

It was done by the GMs. Oh, man. I'm just saying, though want to read that? It was done by the GMs. Oh, man. I'm just saying though, so when we say they, it's they, not us. Not us. I didn't come up with this shit. I know. It was a conversation for two, three years. That's all.

Short time, but it was. Short time for everyone. It was short lived, but it was a thing. This is the GM, right? So back then, Kobe was the number one shooting guard. T-Mac was the number one small forward. And then for one year, one year only, they put them together as shooting guards. Kobe had 52% and Tracy McGrady had 33% in the shooting guard position.

And then the small forward position, Tracy won one. So he came in second place in shooting guards in first place in small forwards and then what ended up happening is they put both of them at the one two and they put them at the one two because the power the four position had KG, Dirt and Tim Dutton which means two of them had to come off the bench in the all-star game so two of them had to come off the bench in the All-Star game. So two of them had to come off the bench in the All-Star game because T-Mac was a forward, so they put him to the guard.

So two of those guys, these Hall of Famers, could be starting in the All-Star game. Then Steve Nash got mad, like, wait, you can't do that. He's a small forward. So then they bumped his ass back to small four and then KG or KG and Duncan basically came off the bench in the All-Star game that's what ended up happening back then but FYI did all that to get to your list come on man just giving you history I know you wasn't in the league yet I'm just we just giving you history Segway swaggy that's a great Segway so last but not least Gil let us get your list of the top 10 players

from the 2010s if you don't mind. This is fighting this shit. No, I'm scared to do my list. That's your list. All right, at 10, I got Blaren Davis. He didn't play at all, but you know, just want him in there because he looked good coming from LA. Shout out to BD Boomduddle. Number 9, Rashard McKinsey. I can't do this. Alright number 10 I got Dwayne Wade seven all-stars for all NBA's one All-Stars, four All-NBAs, one defensive team, one two rings. Got him at 10. Number nine,

Anthony Davis. Six All-Stars, three All-NBAs, was a three-time block champ, three-time all-defense team, and an All-Star MVP. At eight, Kobe Bean Bryant got six all-stars, well, he got five all-stars, real all, five real all-stars because they voted him in back then he only played six games so basically but so six all-stars for all NBAs made the NBA defensive team three time, one ring, one finals MVP and he has an all-star MVP in the five years he actually played in that era. Seven, which I was having a hard time with because this one it's I don't know Kawhi Leonard. Five all-stars, five all-defense, Steel's champ, two defensive player of the years, three time all NBA, two finals MVP, two rings. Now the reason he's seven is because a year he won a defensive

player of the year, he wasn't even actually a top 20 player in the NBA, didn't make an all-star, didn't make an all-NBA, and the finals MVP and champion he had that year he wasn't even top whatever but he comes in at seven at six Chris Paul seven all-stars six all NBA seven time all defensive team all-star MVP four times steals champ two time all-star assist champ. State Farm comes in at six, at five, Harden, one MVP, seven all-stars, six all-NBAs, two scoring titles, assist champ, six man, and man and he was runner up three times to the MVP. He should have been four but for some reason Russell Westbrook with eight all-stars eight all-NVP's I mean all NBA's one MVP two scoring titles two all-star MVPs two assist champs and the three times triple double seasons. It got it for me.

At three, the game changer, light and bright, Curry, two MVPs, three rings, six All Stars, six All NBAs, and steals champ. Number two KD. One MVP, two rings, two finals MVP, four scoring titles, two all-star MVPs. He swept in all-star votes with ten and then that's the year he broke his foot after. And then he made nine all NBA teams. Almost had a perfect sweep. At number one, LeBron James. He swept 10 All-Stars, 10 all-NBAs, five-time defense, went to the finals eight straight times, three MVPs, three rings with three finals and VPs and that's how my top ten for that decade

ended and at that ten spot it was I was arguing with myself with Dwayne Wade it was Dwayne Wade the white and it was Mello and Giannis it was it was it was like four people right there at that 10 spot. Like I wanted to give it to Yonis, you know, like had a short period of time and you want to MVP three, three defensive teams, three all-stars, three all-NBAs, right? So he made impact real fast towards that end.

But... made impact real fast towards that end. But, um. Did the Lakers win in 20? Yeah, that's following here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that don't count. Yeah, like I did, I was doing a study about how hard it is if you got drafted, because it was like something about Chris Paul one year.

And then it was like, will he ever make an all NBA decade team? And that was like a thing. And I was like, why would that be a thing? So I looked at the all decade, how it is, from the 99 basically to the 99. And I'm like, oh shit, you get drafted in the middle of the decade, so you're sitting here at 0 old 405 right And then that next decade you started winning down you can basically

Be a great hall of fame player, but not be on the decade team Because most people who are first team all decades are coming from the first the the decade before Right, so, you know you're talking about like, you know, kobe. think about Kobe, even with LeBron, KD, they're in the, right, so they're using their their those first three years as getting warmed up, then they're priming at the beginning of a decade. So like the top three for this decade will be what? Jokic, Giannis, right? They got draft. No, not even, not even, yeah, Joel.

They won't even be SGA. Joel, Joel. So now you're talking about guys who got drafted 2014-15. Them years. Right? So that'd be... Yeah. So it's basically like you don't want to just be drafted in the middle of a decade because that's your ass. That is unfortunate for the all decade list. How does everybody feel about Gil's list? Any issue? Gil, I wanted to know why'd you put KD over Curry in your expert opinion? In ten years, ten All-Stars, nine All-NBAs, only reason he didn't make it is he broke his foot. Four scoring titles. Remember there's only ten.

Four of those went to him. Two All-Star MVPs. All-Star MVPs. All-Star MVPs. It was important for him. There's only ten of those. You got two of them. All-star MVP. It's important for you. There's only 10 of those. You got two of them. Wait. And then two rings.

That was the end. Two finals MVP and one MVP. OK. That's why he's second. Right? I mean, everybody wants Curry. But, you know, he only made six All-Stars, only six All-NBAs. He got two MVP's.

Does a unanimous MVP do anything for you? Yeah, it's an MVP. But unanimous, the only one in here. Is it? It's an MVP. KD got hurt after that. Is it not way to hire the other MVP? After what? No, he broke his foot.

No, no, he broke his foot in one here, too. That's why he wasn't in. He didn't sweep. Oh, 18, 19. I mean, 18 and 19. 14, 15 is one of them years. He broke his foot in one year too. That's why he was in, he didn't sweep. Oh, 18, 19, I mean 18, 19. 14, 15 was one of them years. He broke his foot in the... I'm talking about the, in the finals. Finals after.

That's after that, okay, yeah. No, no, no, he broke his... That year, that year. That year, that year. Last year, yeah. So I'm thinking about the whole decade of dominance. So that's why he ranked second. Very spirited discussion and debate about our top 10 players list from the 2000 to 2010.

Appreciate you gentlemen taking the time. That Harden, I mean, that Harden could have, I mean, low key that Harden. That Kawhi shit. That's like when you're talking about like, he won MVP but three years up he was number two to run her up. He shouldn't have had three. So that means four, that means doesn't mean four years he is you know top two player considerably in the NBA.

In a sense. Sure too. So I looked up some of those too like where did you like if you didn't win it where What did you fall at you're supposed to win but Russ had that was the first. Yeah, Russ won Curry's first one, you know the players voted James Harden should have won that one The Dame no, no Dwight didn't play that year and they still what came in first or second Yes, I came to second in the West 16 to in first or second. They came in second in the West. 16 to yeah. But Curry, you know, Curry guy deserved it back in the back. So I just look at the body of work what someone did in that. Appreciate you gentlemen. Let's keep this thing moving. We only got two shows left till we go on summer break. All right. I want no issues.

What's so funny is Curry can probably sneak into all decade dish. Yep. He won one. Yeah, he still in this. Yeah, final. Yeah, he plays. He got a final MVP championship.

Yeah. Some all-MVPs. I mean, he might be scratching for 10. There's going to be a lot of year olds in there. There's going to be a lot of year olds in that next one. Excuse me. He's going to be scratching for nine and 10. There's gonna be a lot of year olds in there. Huh? There's gonna be a lot of year olds in that next one. Mm. Excuse me. You're gonna be scratching for nine and ten.

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All right, well let's keep this thing moving. For dogs, not for humans. What? Hey, quick question, man. They scoop it in your coffee like some people on this couch. What? What? The curve. What?

You know what's wrong? You think the voters, do you think the voters Clip it. Regret that finals MVP. I hope they should. Give it to Iggy instead of Sam? They should. They gonna flip it? Iggy dominate performance in the finals?

No, I'm just saying, you know, like, like it was, I know no one that like thinks about history and care like, you know, it's... Don't do that Joe. You telling, what you said they should flip it? No I'm saying do you think they regret like as a voter you regret it? Yes. Yeah like not giving it to staff.

Yes. I mean... Yes. Like even if you... No, okay so let's say Kawhi right? Even with Kawhi's when I'm looking at his if you take off the stats if you take off the names of everybody and you put all the stats you will pick six people for finals MVP before you look at his stats. His stats on his team would have been third, right? So I'm looking at somebody like Steph and I'm like

damn if you don't win another championship to get a finals MVP, somebody who's been here the whole time, KD goes down as the franchise finals MVP holder with two. Come in, has a hired gun, come in, whoop, whoop, and then bounce, and then he holds that record. So I was just, you know, there'd be things that things that you know I'd be thinking about like the legacy of somebody. Well girl speaking of legacy I bring us to our next subject. You've been catching a lot of heat lately for your comments on how Kobe was viewed as a

robin to Shaq's Batman during the Lakers three-peat. You pointed out that this wasn't your opinion but the narrative from the media and others during that time period you've had to defend your Kobe-ness repeatedly. Point out you've been a Dyer or Kobe fan since being one of the 1997 slam dunk contests. It wasn't after he won it, it was just the third dunk. The third dunk. They hadn't won yet but at that moment you even have a tattoo of him on your leg as you also pointed out. I don't have a tattoo of him, I have a tattoo of his jersey. Okay which would be representative of his aura. So well in regards to the whole Robin narrative,

we have some video of Kobe Bryant himself talking about the situation of him being labeled as a Robin early in his career. Yeah, a little competitive. Just a little. But that was the narrative though. The narrative was Kobe's a sidekick, can't win without Shaq.

And I didn't hear anybody, not Phil, not Shaq, come out and say, well, that's not true. He could. I didn't hear that. Everybody was quiet. I'm like, okay. Oh, okay, this is the challenge? This is what we're talking about right now?

All right. And so then when I decided to go and do my own thing, a lot of people in the media were like, well, that's very selfish of you. Yeah, no. But as we sit here today, everybody's using the argument against me and saying, well, you won your first three with Shaq. Had I not won that two with Adam, what would you be saying now?

Are we on a crisis tour? Like, are we about to lose our jobs? Like, tell me. Tell me. We gotta clear this shit up. Man, man. It's harder than this shit, man. Yeah, yeah.

Fuck. Tell the people you love them. Let's go. Not me, I'm just saying when, I think I said the same exact thing. Like it seems like I copied everything he said. The media did this and then y'all pretended I did. This is not for me.

I mean, since he said it, what do y'all got anything to say? He said they called him a sidekick. I didn't hear him say A-B or one-B. I didn't hear him say Batman. Remember sidekick is he said no one ever called him a sidekick and I think the can y'all play again what word did he use? What was the word did he use? Did he say 1-B? A little competitive. Just a little. Batman. I mean that was the narrative though. The narrative was competitive. That was the narrative though. The narrative was, you know, Kobe's a sidekick. Can't win without a shot.

You can pause it. What did Kobe say? They said it was, they called him a sidekick. They called him a sidekick. The narrative was, they called him a sidekick and then y'all rebutted and said no one's ever called him a sidekick. He was next to Jordanbutted and said no one's ever called him a sidekick he was an extra Jordan come out yeah like fight it right yeah but they they called him a sidekick and oh and so when you know y'all jumped on me said no one's ever said that he was the next coming to Jordan no one ever did that it was it was me it was it was Shaquille O'Neal, Shaq. Let's say we're sorry. Shaq and Batman.

Let's say together. Let's say we're sorry. All right. Let's sit up together because he needs this apology. He needs it. Gilbert, Hippolito. Hippolito. From the chat too.

From the chat. Hold on. I need to chat too. Hernandez. I need to chat too. Hippolito. I need to chat too. I need to.

I'm sorry. Damn. They did call him a sidekick Hold on good luck. We're getting the chat to do anything. No, no chatters chatters norm. Yeah, thank you. Thank you Thank you. Thank you your turn You're one at a time Gilbert. Mm-hmm Julio hey, no, no her name is her name Middle name Mm-hmm. Julio. Hey. No, no, Hernandez. It's Hernandez. It's Hernandez.

Middle name. Ah! Gilberto Hernandez Arenas. I'm sorry, man. Oh, man. Sorry that you... Woo! You're a Kobe hater.

Gilbert J. Arenas. Oh, let me go over there. Yeah, get a hug from him. Man, he fought the...put Kobe down so many times. Now he changed the narrative to the... This is the narrative. I'm gonna fight the narrative now. I'm arguing against the narrative. I put Kobe down so many times, but now I'm fighting against the narrative.

This was the narrative. This is me. Let's tell him sorry. Do I have to? Oh, I feel like a girl on this like prom day. You waiting to be asked for the prom? My dad's watching this right now. The last time I had to do some shit like this.

I was 13. I was picking on the ugly girl and he made me give her a hug. Did you like it? I ran from her. You had to give the and my dad, he had to whoop my ass and make me hug her. I was running. I refused to do this. Right. But we're going to have to apologize to Gilbert. Right. Because. Sidekick, Scottie Pippen.

Shaq tattoo. Superman, Shaq Tattoo, Superman, Batman, you know what I'm saying? It's misunderstood energy, so he needs this. Right? He needs it. Let me kill him. Yeah, that's why I'm not gonna give it to him. Oh!

Don't give him shit. Don't give these couple boys nothing. Don't give these motherfuckers nothing. You respect that man like that, what? Fuck Gilbert Hernandez. Pour out the water for my man's up there what? We out here. I'm going to be talking again country boys nothing man This item this outer holes feel when

You leave him at the altar where you gotta go back. Oh Thought I signed the prenup Hey, don't slip on that water, please. I promise I ain't too much. Be all right. Your health is important. You tough, right? Tough.

Kissing babies. Yeah, niggas get shot every day, D. Where's some more Kobe's tomorrow? Do you feel vindicated? We're some more Kobe's tomorrow. We're another Kobe jerks. They gonna know you like them then. Do you feel vindicated for all the slander that you got for merely conveying the narrative

that was there at the time? I mean I'm just crazy. I always used they and them. I don't know how that turned into me. They them. Yeah, I mean they. No particular pronouns used. We was there in real time where he was doing it. I'm playing against them motherfuckers man. It was hard times out there. Very hard times. Gil, glad you had that moment. Let's keep things moving. Everybody in the chat,

please offer your apologies to Gil one at a time, you know what's so funny about it for you know, what's so funny about the the The championship after the old to and then Shaq said, uh Superman Batman So then fight him for the Batman name. The next year. Now that was...gave him the title to then fight it. And then when you couldn't keep it no more, you wanted to be traded. People don't realize Shaq asked for the trade to go to Miami because he didn't want to he didn't want to publicly be number two.

He was he ended up being fine with being number two. But then they said we need you to take a pay cut like number two. And then I'm not taking it. Also, now you ask for too much. So he's like, trade me. And that's that's how that happened. Kobe. I mean, Shaq asked to be traded? Yeah. So basically, it was the war of it's his team.

And Shaq's like, no, it ain't like that. And he was like, well, it is. And then he was like, well, just tell him it is his. And we're going to push the offense through him. And then Shaq was like, fine. And then they was like fine and then there's all right we need you to take ten million dollars less and he was like hell no. But it was a little thing like just speaking for how yeah you can find it yes you can find that yeah you can find it or you don't stop. He's trapping you bro. He's already got that in

Yeah, I got him explain everything to me oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he explained it to me yeah right he explained it to me yeah just just so you know he explained everything to me. He gave permission to use that video. Nothing was so funny he told me I can use it. He said I can use the video and I just told him I'm not gonna I don't want to put it out I just wanted it for myself to just make sure I just wasn't tripping. Okay So good we asked the chat we said chat do you apologize to Gil? 50% said yes, we're sorry. But the other 50 said hell no. Okay, if you get the 51 I'm giving out a thousand dollars

They're giving out money for apology? Hell yeah! Hell yeah! I got to, hey somebody gotta bend. He didn't want to bend on a knee. Then I'm gonna make the chat bend on a knee. If you want a thousand dollars from me, get on your goddamn knees, chat. You need the chat to get on their knees.

Get on your knees! Say that they are sorry. Bend please! The numbers have not shifted as of yet. The chat said we don't need that money. Wait, don't they? Some of y'all got rent rent coming up. It's 50-50 now good times Valentine's song coming up I just say you gotta start the shit up this. There's birthdays, there's baby sues, there's back to school coming up. Some of y'all got kids.

Some of y'all got child support. So Gil, I have some news to announce. 51% of the chat is now saying yes, we're sorry. Hell yes, stop it right there. I'm giving $1,000 at the end. Yeah. I knew y'all believed in me. It's now 52%.

It has now jumped to 53%. I thought you was giving out a thousand to everybody. Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo And I Number is now jump to 54% Good chat chat Mobile eyes got you All right, let's keep this thing moving So we talked recently about Andy Roddick saying tennis players are the best athletes in the world following the record-setting French Open Championship match Which lasted more than five hours. Naturally, some on this couch disagree with Andy's opinion.

And Gil, you offered this response. When you say best athletes, it means you take everybody out of their elements and then you put him in other elements to see who can actually still compete at a decent level. I'm pretty sure you can take every basketball player and they can compete, not probably not with him of course, but they can compete in tennis. I mean actually when we retire from our sport, we play that. There's no way he can retire from tennis and play basketball. Oh no. He would get cooked? I mean he would get cooked even if he was young because that sport you have to learn

it from an earlier age. So there's nothing they have on us. We have eye, hand coordination, we play against other bodies. This is like shadow boxing, in a sense. Okay, so that was your response to Andy Roddick. Andy Roddick saw that clip, Gil. He did other sports? During a recent episode of his serve podcast,

Roddick addressed Gil, the rest of Gil's arena. Here's what he had to say. Oh, I asked you back. I'll throw something back at them. I'll throw out a challenge. I'll play them left-handed in tennis and they won't get a game. I like this.

We're gonna send this to Josiah. I'll play them left-handed and they won't get a game. Best case scenario, this turns into a Chuckers Club exclusive of you just playing different pro athletes at their sport. Like, we can take this really far. Side unseen. I'll, I'll, I'll do that. I get one serve underhand right-handed and I can't use any spins. I just have to put it in the court and then I'll play lefty.

And you play lefty the whole time. Yeah. And they won't win a game. I'll take that for sure. Yeah. Then he got to come play. I'm going to take that for sure Yeah, then he got a couple of I'm gonna take that sir. Hey, I'm gonna give my point across you gotta win a game Do we have to win the game? We just gotta return to sir. Got it win the game Just return to sir, there's a point We got what he had just returned to serve. I disappoint That hand is he might be He'll be backhanding the shit I can't get a shit out of that bad hand in the shit out your every single time

About any of y'all, so I done seen. Well, I wouldn't know, he wasn't talking about me. I had his, so just, if he would've listened to the whole thing and somebody would've sent him the whole clip, I'm with him. No, he said he respects you, and he actually tucked his chain in. No, no, no, because I'm- Out of respect.

Yeah. He said that it was a balanced conversation. Yeah, so my thing was the words that Gil used was I disagree with because Gil said when we done with our sport, we can go over to theirs, which I don't agree with to play their sport. You said when we're done, we can go dominate their sport, not play professional tennis, but that's just play tennis. You that's a big hobby. Just play tennis.

You can have professional tennis. But you said dominate. Just go to the, just go to the rec center and dominate somebody. Who? A 85 year old player? Nah, nah, hell nah. 85 year old motherfuckers can play. For sure. Every time they playing that shit handball in the gym and shit.

Like I'm with like, so we had the conversation and I was asking you, have you ever went and saw the, when he was at his height. 100 mile an hour, 110 mile an hour third. I went to the ATP and Cincinnati when he was at his height, them dudes and I'm watching this shit and I'm like, yo, the way they moving, stopping on the dime, turning, the way that ball moving, the way they controlling it, it's all kind of shit that go with it. And I'm like, ain't no way. Like we got hand-eye coordination, all that shit, great. But them dudes have perfected that shit.

At their worst, at their worst year, at Andy Roddick's worst year of his career, at our best year of our NBA career. We couldn't do nothing with that. Even if he's playing left-handed, but this is not a question of when I saying who is the hardest sport. No, right. He's not hit.

I beat you left-handed. Fuck. No. As I say, can he beat you can't be left-handed with one? One. Nigga, you're not beating me in my sport. That doesn't determine who is the best athlete. So like I said, he's going to be biased.

No, but we're talking about athlete. He's saying athlete's period. Cool, now let's say you take him, I take Caruso. They say we're going to take you to and run a 100-yard dash yeah that's athletic yes he's not beating Caruso how do you know that we don't know you're right we know you don't know it you're right okay we have seen him but let's just say they already did a hundred-yard dash I pull him yeah now let's say they all do that now let's say this group they did a hundred yard dash. I feel him. Yeah now let's say they all do that now Let's say this girl. They did a jumping. I mean Caruso who wins that I

Don't know. Okay. Now. Let's say they had to do some type of activity of Living weights weightlifting. Yeah boxing yeah wrestling yeah, Andy Roddick has hands good at football whatever outside of your sport If we take a hundred tennis players and a hundred just basketball football and we did anything but ours Where do everybody ranks? So now? Who is the best? Yeah, we can take the best athlete and so In this sport is black quick feet of course

The best black so the best athlete in this sport is black. Quick feet. Of course. It's the same thing. The best black. So the best athlete in this sport is probably black. So therefore, he can compete. So what are you saying? But in every, we said we take the top 10 in every sport. OK. And then we say, we're going to do 100 yard dash. Where is the tennis runners going to run?

As a group. We don't know. Football, whatever. You just do all these sports, and we see where your body measures at hmm sounds like battle mode How about this like I told you I'm a bitch I google I googled a Top tier tennis players in high school. Mm-hmm top tier one two three actually

They wasn't in high school over 21 22 and they were doing agility drills Actually, they wasn't in high school, they were 21, 22. And they were doing agility drills. My seven year old, I mean not my seven year old, my seventh grader was jumping higher, running faster, fast twitch was better. Then 21 year old pro tennis players. They don't have to jump like that though. I know they don't jump, they don't jump, they don't run out jump like that though. I know they don't jump they don't jump they don't run out

They got fast which left and right We're not talking about the skill that you're having with your eye or like yes You're gonna like tennis is one of the hardest just like hockey is one of the fucking hardest If you you can't just pick that shit up at 20 years old you got a bike It's a detailed sport. So what test are they doing they doing don't get it just serve you know that these professional athletes they're doing your seventh grade they're doing shuttle drills the shuttle drills doing a stop back and they're doing a jumping verticals jumping on boxes they're doing all the stuff so if you want to rank your combine against other athletes, nigga, you're not even close.

But they are in this game. They just did an IMG for the tennis. You already know, I called down there and asked them. You have to because they are athletes. Tennis players are real because they got Gail Monfields, they got a bunch of guys, Francis Tiafov. Bro, like they have to be quick to write The guy gil like he can

Right, so if you were to take Andy in comparison to him You would say we don't know what Andy can do cuz we have seen him right? you would say we don't know what Andy can do because we haven't seen him, right? But in the assumption is the tennis players don't do enough athletic shit for us to believe that they can beat us. They don't move in a big enough space. We don't know the other sports that they're playing.

Well, of course. We're talking about immediate. They could have been hoopers and greats all the way up this end. Tennis was their major sport. He could have all the same quick twitch shit that everybody else had He just happened to be dominant at fucking tennis and he stuck with him like Beat you in any other sport is sick. I'm being honest

Any other sport is sick. I'm being honest I'm being honest. We put us out here Yes, if we just say no no all day If we just said all right If we just tell all tennis coaches to get just just raw bodies just raw bodies to sit and say, this is the body I'm gonna train. Right. The body I wanna train, like, I wanna make this the number one player. What body types you think?

Football players. Six-six, football, like your wide receivers. They're gonna go for a six-six, seven-foot wing spans, mobility, athlete. You're gonna go for that body type. Of course. And that body type is a wide receiver, because that's what our body types are. So you're not gonna, like, you're gonna, for that body type. Of course. And that body type is a wide receiver because that's what our body types are.

So you're not gonna go for his, I mean that's a skill, but if you're saying I get to pick a body, like all right I need to make a player, and I'm gonna perfect this body type, you're picking a basketball player or a football wide receiver. Okay. Because of the height and explosiveness.

Okay, and he could have did all of these. That's what athletic is talking about. He said he could have did all he that's what athletic is He said he played high school basketball Andy was he was except Andy was exceptional because he came in as an athlete that's where he hit that bitch 120 he could move It was talking about not him. I'm talking about as a group as a whole. Yeah, we're talking about athleticism Just the body itself. Yeah,, not them in their sport. Like, you know, I'm-

Well, Gil, actually, you may not remember, but you actually played against Andy Roddick at the Easter Classic in Las Vegas when you were pumping run. He gave you 30. Cap! I played him in basketball? No, I'm fucking with you.

Oh, I'm gonna say, I had to give him. Nah, I'm about to say. I had to give him. And I know he was- Took him to the hole! I know his body wasn't being- I'm about to say, no. Take him to the hole. And hold on him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him.

I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him.

I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him. I had him.

I had him. I had him. I had him. I had sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Like you try like Bunch of ass please! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing!

The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! The chat is laughing! We get it, we get it! Yeah boy, you get the niggas in. Don't say no more, you're wicked. You get your niggas in, boy. Don't say no more, you're niggas.

So let's keep this moving. So Roddick isn't the only one who wants smoke. Chris Eubanks, who's been ranked as high as 29th in the world professional tennis player he's a fan of Gil's Arena so Chris hit me in my Twitter DMs invited all of you out to the US Open next month in New York City so you can see what it's really like out there and Gil said he also wants to see you on a tennis court for some once but let's get back to Andy Roddick's challenge real quick would you play Andy Roddick? No.

If you play left hand, third right right hand. The junk walk up. Uh oh. Gills refused to answer. No, niggas. Yo, yo, yo. What is that? He said he's gonna serve that bitch unhand. Then he gonna play you.

I play pickleball so I know it's a tennis. I know he gonna hit it like this. It's that fast spin in the front? Oh, he gonna flip. No spins. No, no He will hit it. I don't know first about that If he served under here you got it a venue I want to serve so he got a start left. So any right, I wanna serve. I wanna serve so he gotta start left. So Andy Roddick. I heard him, he snuck it in there. I get to serve underhanded with my right.

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, let me serve first. Okay. Let me serve. And I'ma beat him! Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted. Look to the camera, dude.

Look to the camera. Why? Just tell him. He gonna watch. He's watching. Hey, shout out Mike Hattie. Look at the camera, that makes it real. It's real, right? camera why just tell him he's watching you know challenge accepted. Uh-oh. That was real right there.

I'll say it one more time for the ISO cam. Challenge accepted. Hey, do I get a partner? You can pick a partner on the camera. Y'all can go one on two. Who might as well go ahead and see how good he really is. Make it a fair face. That way.

No, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Good really is making a fair play He is one of my favorites. I know who he is. I don't know what. Let's make it fair. If you got to play tennis, he got to play you in basketball. So Gil, could you beat Andy Roddick in a shooting competition? No. If you had to shoot left handed? Oh shit. I thought you said basketball. I was like, then it might be me in that too. That's why I said shooting.

I can't move like that. No movement. You can pick the spot. I gotta move this way. You can pick the spot. I gotta move this way. You can pick the spot Huh? Yeah, you gotta move side to side. We gonna beat em. If I beat em. If you play right hand. No, no No, I'm saying if it's two of y'all, I'm gonna beat em left hand. But I might have hope. Take your mans with you. We know where hope works. We know where hope works. I know you know. Hey, hey, hey, what you always say? I got a chance. I got a fucking chance. I know you know, hey, hey, hey, what'd you always say? I got a chance So we asked the chat who wins the tennis match Andy Roddick left hand only or the Gills Arena crew 66% of the

chat thinks Andy Roddick will beat you with his left hand. We will find out. We don't know smokey. That's cool. You just got to play. You got to win a game. You want one game match over. You're going to all of us all of us. Oh shit. He might get tired. That's what I'm saying. One Andy Roddick. We got a 40% chance of win. We got a 40% chance of get tired. That's what I'm saying. One Andy Roddick, we got a 40% chance of win. That's a great eye. Get him tired, wear him down.

Nah man, we gonna tie your heart and we gonna get him right before the match. We gonna fix him. We gonna fix him. Yeah, we gonna fix him. Come here. Let me fix you up real quick. Put that arm hurt, huh? Put your fucking legs in the bag. Put your legs in the bag. Put your goddamn legs in the bag, Andy. Let me fix you Cuz that's all that's gonna be on Instagram Cut! Cut! Make it look good. I said cut! It's like AAU. You'd be like, oh! Didn't go to the next one. Oh!

24 highlights. You got 24 different jerks. It cuts out with the ball in the air for a Houston basket. Next thing. All right. Well, let's talk. One more thing. So after getting embarrassed at the World Cup in 2023, finishing in fourth place, Team

USA had to assemble the Avengers to get over the top and win gold at the 2024 Olympics in Paris. So during a recent episode of his road tripping show with Channing Fry and Ali Clifton, Richard Jefferson was asked to give a hot take and let's just say it was very spicy. The US will not win gold in Los Angeles, California. Boom. I'm sorry, say what? Hold on now. What did you say?

I said US. Okay, you went from White People Mild to Louisiana Explosion Spice. Richard, where is your thinking from that? Please stop that. What did you say? Say it again. Please stop that. Go ahead.

I said that the US will not win gold in LA in three years. Oh, God. That boy, listen, the Modellos. You not win gold in L.A. in three years. Oh God. That boy, listen, the Modellos. Y'all you asked for a hot shot of tequila. Wait, wait, wait, wait. First of all, are you just trying to piss people off? I'm not trying to piss people off. Did you see it took a Herculean effort for us?

It took our greatest basketball players for us to beat a team that had one all-star in Serbia and had No all-stars in France So for us to say without Katie without Steph without LeBron without him bead without without the the Avengers We would not have won the gold medal So to RJ's point 28 team will look much different than 2024 did with the potential LeBron KD and stuff all not playing in 2028 Yeah, so 2024 team will look different than the 2028 team will be less Avengers if you will

Those Richard Jefferson spitting or tripping same team must they won't win gold at the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles. We will be there my question is We will be there. My question is, who says for sure Steph ain't playing? I said Mayor May not. Or KD. They're going to be only 39. LeBron only going to be like 45. Hey, one last call, man.

We just need a couple moments. We don't need the whole thing. One last ride. One last dance. One last dance too. That man still playing basketball and all that and all this. Very possible. That's the year.

Yeah. This last year playing was like five years ago. He retired that year playing the Olympics in 2028. Yeah, he took my take. He got to stay off my Twitter. Damn. We all said. He know they Olympics in 2028. Yeah, he took my take. He got to stay off my Twitter. Damn. We all said.

We know they be doing that shit. Yeah. I'm saying we were saying that their day is going to be tough. They don't have a chance. I don't think the U.S. have a chance at all. Team USA does not have a chance, Mr. V. Man, you were saying on that rules. You got to remember, all the veterans that they have too are gone.

Back to France? All the veterans that- I think he could. Back to France? All the veterans that... I think he could probably go to Cameroon, not France. I'm not worried about Cameroon. Yeah, all the veterans that they do have is gone too. So all their stability... Only what? Only three.

Only three? The Colas, Ruby, and Baton. And Baton. Everybody's gonna, the ones that's not, they're going to be kind of old. They got a bunch of young ones. The two young ones.

The two tall motherfuckers on that. The one who got Dunked on, he is French, and then you got the number one and two from last year, and you got a couple of guards. And you got another big Wimby. I mean, he's not worried about it. No, they got a lot of them. Listen, if Steph and Katie and them don't play. They got first.

And Evan Fournier, still over there with them too. Yes, please don't go with it I mean, but they're young talented it Yeah, it is here. I mean they go They don't have a lot of fucking seven foot. Yeah, they definitely go outside. Good luck. They coming back Yeah, they got a lot they want that They want that. They want that. They got a lot of wings.

Yeah, they got a lot. They want that. From the 3-4-5, the Olympic style of play is... Yeah, we gonna sit down, we gonna shoot it if we want to. Yeah, that's different, man. I ain't gonna be close. 3-4-5. What?

US, it might be a blowout every game. And they ain't gonna be like this. We had a bunch of old motherfuckers this year trying to play. Yeah, listen, dog. All right. I'm not saying that, too. That year, basketball shit is- It might look like when Lebron and I was young,

like that second dream team. The Kobe and all them. The redeemed team. Not the 04 team, faggot. Yeah, not that. We got Brunson. We got Anthony Edwards in three years. We got a 28 year old Ant-Man.

26? 27? We got a 28 year old Ant-Man. 26? 27? We got a 26 year old Ant-Man. Yeah. About to find out. Yeah, we're gonna find out real soon. Hey, people's come. Fucking Canada too.

Who's our bigs? Wait, who's our bigs? Canada's gonna be tough. Who's our bigs? Canada's gonna be fucking tough. Who the bigs? He's always been. JJJ, Bam's gonna be.

Mobley. Cooper Flag, Mobley. Who? Cooper Flag, Mobley. Cooper flag, Mowbly. I'm just throwing young beings out there. Jerry, I'm just. Young fellas over there. Maybe the wearer kid from Miami. The little wearer.

Yeah, I like him. He a damn animal. Then next year's draft, you're going to have. A big boy from Clingham. AJ, like AJ Boozer. You think they going to be ready? No, no way. I'm just going to say that.

I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. Then next year's draft you're gonna have a big boy from cleaning We're gonna have a J J J J loser

No, no way they'll be ready about a little bit listen, bro They're gonna be ready what I'm saying is Bro, yes, we're's something we're missing. With. Because our team from 16, 17, 18, 19, you has been dominating. Smacking them. They've been smacking everybody. It's a collection of them. So it's like, we're their skill and that, like our French team, they got they asked what my are like we've been whooping So we're missing we're missing something here There's there they get the best players ours more political

Well, they hide their players to what I'm told over there is they don't really like the players playing in those 18 17 You so you don't see them early and try to come take them from over where we at. They try to keep them in the tuck. Yeah, Canada. It's gonna be some good ones. We're gonna have that. It's gonna be tough. I got Wimby taking it. Coming back to LA taking it. I see SGA. Like, defensively, I just... I thought they was gonna have a better show on that. They didn't have the Eastwoods fan, man. He didn't play.

They didn't have no big. South Sudan. South Sudan ain't gonna listen. No, South Sudan gonna be a hard fucking out in 28. No, no, no, no, no. They good, bro. No, you know what I'm thinking? You know the funny part about the South Sudan team?

If Canada really wants to try to win, You know the funny part about the South Sudan team? If Canada really wants to try to win they can combine them right they should they should take their South all those South Sudan players and Put them on because most of those kids Went to Canada and lived in Canada. So when he was having trouble, so most of them are Canadians so listen and they use them for the South Sudan but they can play South Sudan or whatever it is it's gonna be hard out. They can buy their team up low. Oh shit never mind.

I ain't worried about Antman. They can take South Sudan bigs and mix them with guards. Yeah that's what I said. I was listening first. Oh my god. Who's gonna look. Hey, cuz that's what you just. Who's gonna be the coach South Sudan? Yeah, that's important. That's important.

You can't be. Ain't no way. Ain't no way. Can't be again. We won't get some because if you try to have a chance, you need Jason Taylor. Yeah, Ben Cheryl. If you need a chance chance you need Jason Taylor. Yeah Ben Chiro If you need a chance, you need Jay Guaranteed sneakers I'm apologize. I'm apologize right now

Okay, girl, this is this is a big moment. I don't think I'm like I'm either neither I am very sorry that I disrespected your body We are gonna need you so Carl Anthony, please forgive me I'm begging you for the USA and three. Yeah I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know you I know you win I know you want to go play with your team, but come on back man. Come on home. We don't need you We don't need you don't listen to them Yeah, you're gonna see we're gonna sit our fever if he sits our fever it works

That's why I'm begging please. I know but please don't play and be black be black again be black Appreciate you. I know I know being in New York to you know, what's that area? He wanted me to go to Dyckman Dyckman today I know they're gonna put the pressure on you to play but America needs you you can be a real hero You can be a real hero here I'm begging you. I'm sorry. I fuck all that. Okay Still three years away from the next Olympics lock and change in that time frame But who do you feel like are the top dogs on the 2028 team USA Olympic squad?

Hey man Jason Tatum follow them Jero Pablo Mobley check bring a twin them two twins maybe Oh, yeah. We do got a chat. We do got a chat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jamba, rent, jamba. K to B.

K to B. Yeah, we got K. Thompson Twins. Yeah, we gonna party one of them. Yeah, we don't just probably want to know They're trying to play for Jamaica They're gonna try to play for Jamaica, but we we we can get one we can convince one, you know They can't believe we can convince one a man. Hell, they both going to They go both. They go both. They go both.

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They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. They go both. But who they are never to compete. Oh, if you think about all the international Lips not see Kirk can't be the coach. You need a Who we take all the internationals off off the list of like the top 25 all the international guys off I'm talking about four years from now though. We're not right now. Yeah, right right now take these these top 20

Y'all are three summers. I'm not worried about I'm just saying think about we talk about projection So you got all of these international players who are gonna be better Three summers from now. I'm not worried about it. I'm just saying, think about, we're talking about projection. Three summers from now. Projection. So you got all of these international players who are gonna be better. Like Wemby. Like Wemby, Sangoon, Joker, Luca, Shay. Bro, all them dudes are gonna, Yanis? Yanis, like Yanis going into his 44 hour fix.

But they don't play this team. It's Yanis with the rest of it. Yeah, I'm sure but It's a new Brother is his cousin like this John is out there by myself. They teaching they people though USA They teach me summer what they know so y'all is not in the wings better. Oh shit with that Yeah, Jalen will get better ma'am Palo better Bronson are actually play potentially European You name you get Donovan Mitchell you can get whatever it's yeah

I mean our guards back. I mean our guards are you talking about like it's like Dylan Harper Then like you got to think about the group that just came in to hmm in four years Yeah, and three years. Reason wise, the reason why. Cooper flag at the point guard. They just won. They told me three years. The Olympics we just won, right?

Why did we win it? Cause of Steph Curry. Experience. Experience. Experience. That's it. We know how to calm down. Hey, listen.

It's either gonna be me, LeBron, or KD gonna be taking these shots sitting around this time. Everybody else move the fuck around, pass around, cut and drive. We got this. We're gonna figure it out. KD, I mean, Steph, they have like amazing games. I'm saying those three guys put it on their back. But that's gonna be our Booker and Anthony Edwards. That's gonna be our Booker, Anthony Edwards. What about the Mellow Ball? Your guy, Jalen Brown, Tatum. Yeah, we gonna be. Should be something. You got Chet, you got Apollo, still what he is.

In comparison to the other guys on the other side. They're better than them now. Them names. They spread out though. What's so funny is, but the real guys are spread out. These guys on 110. You're right. But we all play a certain type of basketball. real guys are spread out. These guys on one team. You're right. But we all play a certain type of basketball. But they all don't play. But they all spread out. I get it. All them guys, I ain't gonna be on one team.

Them guys gonna be spread out. But even the guys you talking about. Gonna be on one team still. They, comparison to the Avengers that came in and the dudes that they had to fight against that didn't have nothing. These same, they ain't gonna be the same teams. But we're gonna have more talent on our team.

But these are gonna be the dudes that's in discussion for MVPs and NBA. Who? The guys that are named on our team. There is one American player with tons of experience playing here. They're gonna be in discussion for NBA. In comparison to the standard. Anthony Edwards and- NBA and Giannis and Luca.

I mean, probably the discussion, but they'll be in discussion. They'll be in discussion. Paolo and three here. There's a reason Luca's playing right now. His got a qualify for your kitchen Yonis is now they got a place it's fine I mean they're always in the discussion though no discussion they got a play because their teams can't qualify been in discussion like y'all this team can qualify without him. Lucas team can qualify without him.

We'll go play. No, but so they got to play to even qualify for Olympics. That's how bad the rest of the group is. These dudes and as a reminder, Cooper flag was cooking. But that's the point. So if I can inject myself, we want to go this one is going to make y'all struggle. If my team can't make it without me, and you put me on and we push y'all to the limit, what is that saying about y'all?

Who push you to the limit? To what limit, 28? The Olympics. Okay, that's the thing. We got one All-Star, we push it to the limit. Tell them about the next one. When we come back in four years, we're going to have more players.

You're going to have less players. No, we're not going to have, going to have more players. You're going to have less players. No, not less players. You have different players. You got three Hall of Famers and took it over the top. You're not going to have those guys. That's what I said. When you think about the young people that there's going to be on the team, our young players are still in front of them. Outside, you take Wimby just for French if you take Wimby off the for just Wimby himself. They don't have anybody that second to Wimby that's in front of our American players. Luca, Apollo chat Luca don't play for friends.

Oh, you saw my friends. I thought you saw my international just fall like talking about countries. Country, we know not one specific country is going to do that. But no, they're saying French. We're talking about French will be there. We're talking about the US. I ain't talking about that either.

The French team is actually here. The guys that they're going to be using is not better than anybody. They're not Thomas Wimby. And then everybody else, they're young guys. I thought we were talking on the whole internet. I thought we were talking about just France. France, Serbia. But they talk about the USA versus the field.

Yeah, we're not just talking about France. Talking about everybody, their country. Like the only team that's actually dangerous that I think is dangerous, but they're kind of small that's going to be veterans and good is Canada because they have everybody coming back they normally they're adding they're in the Olympics But it's but the team ain't that it's

Wagi Wagi Like there's like there's no French person that's better than better than chat. There's no other French player. That's better than Paulo there's no there's no French guards better than our guard. I'm just Forced better than our small force. Not a French. I mean, it's a team. I mean, that's the same conversation. That's what I'm saying. We just had that conversation last year and we seen it. None of those players lined up with none of the USA players, the French team, none of them. Why are they taking them to the edge? We didn't take them to the edge. They didn't take it to the edge. They could be free. Y'all might be the Avengers. We just made it. You talking about we lined up. We, we, we lined up with them.

Oh shit. They looking like we about to play against them and then you finish the game like man we could have beat them. We could have. Could have, should have, wouldn't. I think they was crying with that silver on their throat. Like you'd be freaking out there. They'll take the lay out. Now they coming, now they coming to America There are hometown Los Angeles. There is one American hope Central there's one American hope Baby There is one American hope for that you guys are all overlooking

Any from LA. That is Lamello LaFrance Ball. Played in Lithuania. What about him? We should be good. We'll be 26 years old at that point. And we're gonna have them Olympic boys that kind of played this year maybe.

Some of them gonna probably make it be young boys. Jello can sing the national anthem before the championship. We should be all right. It's what you've done. What about this? If we win, bronze, or don't win, none of us is gonna be surprised. Nobody's gonna be surprised, but I think I fear Canada more. Because if they do, if they were smart and they do get the Sudan players that's from

Canada and get the height over there, then you got actually a balanced team. Now you got your guards, your MVP. You know, Shay might be a two-time, three-time MVP by then, but we know he gonna be a lot better. You add that with bigs. So we asked the chat, will Team USA win gold in 2028? 72% of the chat thinks that Team USA will win gold.

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We got one more day. We got today and tomorrow. We got one more day, Killa. How many losses do you have? Too many. Three. Three? Yeah, I'm right behind him. You're outside the ring.

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