Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena EXPLODES Debating Hoopers vs Basketball Players

Episode Date: September 4, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Jayson Tatum's Comments Towards Team USA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down Tatum's take on his Team USA benching in his first public comments about the 2024 Olympics and debate if the NBA Champion & All NBA Star deserves more praise for his humility in embracing a diminished role this summer. They also break down how this never ending saga will fuel Tatum this season and if he and Jaylen Brown will somehow find a new gear after their summer of snubs. Next, No Chill Gil & the crew react to A'ja Wilson dominating the WNBA with a special Hibachi Time segment where they break down if A'ja in on pace for the greatest season in WNBA history before analyzing 4th and final meeting between Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese where CC might've been the first player to receive a standing ovation from the opposing team's fans. This show stopping performance sparks a debate if Caitlin is the most hyped rookie since LeBron James and a conversation over if she sealed up the rookie of the year award with her post olympics surge or if we're all still slipping on Angel Reese. Finally, they react to Steph Curry's recent comments over playing with LeBron James and debate if it's more likely that the players eventually team up on the court or in the owners box as both superstars have publicily expressed their interest in eventually owning an NBA Franchise. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Lexie Brown, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:02 Greatest Trick Play In Sports History 0:14:53 The Pressures Of A Max Contract 0:27:49 A'ja Wilson Dominating The WNBA 0:59:22 Caitlin Clark Steals The Show From Angel Reese 1:10:03 Jayson Tatum Finally Speaks Out On Team USA 1:45:52 Hoopers vs Basketball Players Debate 1:57:03 MostlyFans 2:36:10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How everybody feeling? We good? Yeah. Ooh, football. Go Rams. Ooh. Let's go Rams. What's your team?

I don't have a team. No team? Yeah, I guess the Patriots. Nah. You can be with the Rams. Celtics, Patriots. I do like the Rams. Yes.

But Patriots is my team. With the Celtics, Red Sox, we keep it in New England. Okay. You're a Red Sox fan? By default, yeah. Wow. She's making it up now. She's making it up now. She's making it up

as she goes. I'm consistent. I'm not like him. He's consistent. Consistently bandwagoning. Yeah, that's consistent. Free agent. He consistently free agents.

There's no loyalty in sports. He's signing one-year deals. It's crazy. He's signing one-year deals. They got him on Proving Deal. I love sports. You love sports? Yeah. I love sports too, but I stay with my team. They got a more proven deal. I love sports. You love sports? I love sports too,

but I stay with my team to do the good and the bad. See, when the Patriots was winning, I wouldn't have gotten that reaction. Now they're losing and everyone's like,

oh, yeah, so I'm going to stick beside them. Not me. Nah, nah, nah, nigga. Lose on your own time, nigga. You win when I root for you. Or I'm not rooting for you.

It's Raiders Nation, yeah. You see the shirt. Shout out Planet Euphoria sent over a special Gills Arena shirt. Why is my number 11? And why am I on the Minnesota Lynx? Well, that was you. You know. Is that him 11?

Yeah, like. That ain't you. It's a cool shirt. That's my amor. Why are we? Yeah, that's, yeah, like. No, why is it him 11? Yeah, like... That's a cool shirt. Why are we... Yeah, that's... Yeah, like... No, why is it number 11? Yeah, because they had that...

Who made that fucking... Who made that damn shirt? Because you lucky, bro. You don't argue in that. Number 11. That's a cool shirt, but... It's a working shirt. Maybe because the colors had to match.

Sean, you already know. He's the only one who got his number right. Only one that look right. I'm so glad we got rid of those jerseys. You don't want to look like... You don't want to look right. They got you in your head, man, way up here. Like you was wearing it way up here. The people love me. What number I got over there?

You are number zero. The people love me. Thank you, Planner U4, for saving the shirt. We will make some corrections. You never wore 11? Yeah, let's go ahead and put that here on the cards. We workshopping. We are workshopping.

When did you wear 11, dog? I'm glad I'm in the middle. My last year in Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Oh, yeah? But my number 11 was in Europe, too, though. There you go, man. So he didn't get it wrong.

But I'm known as three, though. Three for sure. For sure. Or seven. All right, well. All right, seven. We are workshopping. We'll get it fixed. But this is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy.

As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up? Okay. We've got the studio audience. We've got WNBA champions, Lexi Brown, back in the arena. We show respect around here. I'm not going to get checked by the Internet anymore. Thanks, Internet.

Tempers are flaring all across social media. So I'm just going to play my part, do anymore. Thanks, internet. A lot of tempers are flaring all across social media. So I'm just going to play my part, do what I can do. Oh my god. Need remediation, diffuse attention, everybody just need a hug. Log off, please. Log off. We got Cemetery Larry.

Good job, McCants. Blue Jays? You a Blue Jays fan now? You a Blue Jays or is that some subliminal, because you've been in LA so long? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, just making sure. They be checking me on my politics.

OK. So I had to, you know, we're going to Toronto soon. Oh, that's Toronto? No, not really. No, where's Blue Jays? Where's Toronto? Toronto. Is that Toronto?

I ain't going to lie. That's fire. It's all right. That's fire. It's all right. I'm loving the logo and the colors. I looked at it. I said, yeah. I'm like, that's fire. It's all right. It's all right. I'm loving the logo and the colors. I looked at it and I said, yeah. I'm like, that's fire.

Let me get that. Deeper message? I think you're okay. You know, we're not going to- There's some things going on in Toronto. No, I mean, that's a nice color set. I mean, that's a nice- It's beautiful.

That's a nice color set, though. I got all the colors in here. That's a nice color set. Huh? Nice to see you, boo. I've been in the Dodgers. I'm Carolina Blue. No, Dodgers jersey.

So you are a Yankees fan, though. I am a Yankees fan. Okay, just making sure. 100%. That's why I say I love all sports. I'm a sports collector. Okay, you're a sports aficionado. I love my jerseys.

So I'm going to be wearing a lot of Alabama. You can wear division rivals. It don't matter. That's crazy. I didn't even know it was where it was at. It must be New York. New York Blue Jays. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back in the arena representing Tough Crowd right now. No, it isn't. The New York Blue Jays. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, back in the arena, representing Tough Crowd right now. No, it doesn't.

Tough Crowd University. The New York Blue Jays. Fresh off a trip to Disneyland, doing it like no other. You went on Space Mountain? Yeah. They let you on the ride? Yeah, I met Mickey. I had an appointment.

They don't let you ride? You can angle your legs off. When? You can angle your legs. On a Wednesday? Yeah, nobody was there. Best time to go, middle of You can angle your legs off. When? You can angle your legs. On a Wednesday? Yeah, nobody was there. Best time to go, middle of the week.

On a Tuesday. Yeah, nobody was there. Middle of the week, yeah. Oh, nobody's there, yeah. Post-labor days, beautiful mood. You in by yourself? No, people. Oh, okay.

About 10 of us. A bunch of grownups? About 10, yeah. No kids, one kid. And on all the rides. Yeah. One kid? Yeah, one kid.

It's better to do it that way. Baby? Yeah. Ooh. Yeah, first time, rides. Yeah. One kid? Yeah, one kid. It's better to do it that way. Baby? Yeah. Ooh. Yeah. First time, so. Okay. First time parent?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, that makes sense. Yeah. And for all the fans, just get to leave the child with the babysitter. Sometimes you got to let your child get fucked up. No, no. Don't trust everybody.

Stranger danger. Stranger danger. Start talking baby shit up. Stranger danger. You can't trust everybody. They learn early in life. That movie was good. Stranger danger.

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But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Jason Tatum opened up about getting benched at the Olympics, but how much will the disrespect motivate him this season? Still talking about it. You know, it's hanging over his head, but he's going to come back. Lose to the Lakers at seven. Steph Curry signed a one-year extension with the Warriors, but still isn't closing the door on teaming up with LeBron.

But will we ever see a LeChef union in the league? And Asia Wilson is headed for her third WNBA MVP, but is the Aces superstar on pace to have the greatest season in league history. She is doing her thing. We got to show her love. She's been rocking the white tees. Come in real, just come to work. You know, they ain't been doing what they need to do.

She said she kept the fits in the closet until they started winning more. Right now, just... Respect. Straight white tees. Respect. No. Respect.

Respect. Put that shit up. Put them heels up. Put the fucking heels up. We're pro club no more. Let me get my own surprise. Thank you. Put them heels up.

Put the fucking heels up. Y'all coming here looking like y'all ready. No. No. No. No. No. They coming here looking like they ready for the 2 AM hangout.

Yeah, where we going? Wrong message. Huh? Where we going? She's doing fine. Y'all better put on pro clothes and get the fuck to work. She's been hooping in her fits. Y'all ain't no runway. She's been hooping in the fits.

She's been hooping in her fits. She's been hooping without the fits. Everybody else has been sitting in the mirror too long. You need to get your ass. Walking in there like Deebo. Like, y'all need to do what I do. I get it. Hey, hey, hey.

Come here. Hey, hey, hey. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Two years, huh? We've been dressing like this. Winning. Come on, hey. Come here. Hey, hey, hey. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. Two years, huh? We've been dressing like this. Winning.

Come on, man. Now y'all see them cameras, and y'all want to dress like y'all at the prom every goddamn game. Stealing Usher photos, all types of things going on. Not a real correlation, but. Which one? Just getting dressed. They've been, everyone's been getting dressed.

Everybody's been getting dressed. When they was back-to-back champs, they was getting dressed. Oh, we didn dressed. When they was back-to-back champs, they was getting dressed. Oh, we didn't know. I'm sorry. We didn't know. We didn't know. No, you were not a WNBA captain.

Shut up. They wasn't doing that. Shut up. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Yes, they were. Yes, they were.

We wasn't seeing them. Okay, but that's crazy. That's crazy how the game has changed. That was just, what, a year ago? Yeah. They were doing it already. Right, so like two years ago? Yeah.

And now we just now seeing them. I'd be more inclined to listen to Lexi on a particular subject But that's that'd be that's just me, but that's just that's just life. That's just life You doing it right? They doing it, but when the cameras on you and you doing it No welcome to social media like They all can do whatever they want to do. I'll do that shit. You're losing. I know. Whatever they want to do, they can do it. No, welcome to social media. Like, hey. Exactly. They was hating Dylan Brooks. Hey, Dylan Brooks was doing his thing.

That shit was hard, though. He was over there. You do it to El Ron James. And then you do it to you. When you lose, now stop it. Now stop it. No, do what you want to do. That's how it is.

Do what you're doing. Y'all back-to-back champs. That's how it is. We are going to discuss, but before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Do yourself a favor. Download the app. Use promo code GILD.

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You do not want to miss out. And Mr. B himself has a pick-em for the Chiefs Ravens tomorrow. Ready to go. Randy, you know, we Chiefs Ravens tomorrow. Ready to go. Randy, you know, we appreciate you being spot-on ready to go. So, Lamar Jackson, higher 42.5 first-quarter passing yards. Patrick Mahomes, higher 20.5 rushing yards. That's going to be an interesting one. Derek Henry.

That's easy. That's easy. Yeah, but he don't want to be running the road all the time. He don't want to run. He don't want to run. His ass is going to run tomorrow. His ass is going to run tomorrow. time. He don't be wanting to run. His ass gonna run tomorrow. His ass gonna run tomorrow. He's gonna run for it. Not against them niggas.

My whole run against them. Watch. Derrick Henry, higher.5 rushing or receiving TDs. Travis Kelsey, higher 9.5 first quarter receiving yards. Think that's gonna happen. Zay Flowers, higher 52.5 receiving yards. That pays out 19x if you hit on all of those.

Hey, can you tell Underdog, Underdog, can you put the picture on everybody? Like, I need the picture for every single person. No, Instagram. I don't like the blank face. Like, I don't see nothing. You need to know what they look like. I need to see how scary the motherfucker, because it'd be like a running back. He's white.

It'd look like, you know, they have to, like, catch it. How many yards you can run after you catch it. You can see someone who's going to just catch it and run out of bounds. Aren't some of the best running backs white, though? Aren't some of the best running backs white? No, no, no. Receivers. It'd be having like after they catch yards, right? After they catch it

how many yards, it'd be like 65. And then you see his face and he's like, nah, he's going to drop and he's going to drop and roll. He's going to drop and I need to see the face. The white, nah, he's going to drop and roll. He's going to drop and roll. I need to see the fake face. The white boys, the last niggas is dropping. No, they drop and roll.

No. They don't. Trust me. They're out there. They're out there. The white boys out there, they're doing their job. They do their job every day. They drop it.

Yeah. They mad. They drop it out of bounds. Stop the clock. They good. They know how to play. Yes. I don't know if he watch football.

He don't. I don't. I don't either, but I just think that's not right. The position is quarterback for all the white guys out there. Like him right here. Good quarterback. Him right here. Don't.

No, Gil. He ain't scoring no touchdowns. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Who's that? No, don't say no name. Nah, nah, nah, nah. No name. Look at that.

Let me see. We'll keep it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he will. No, no, no. He's starting. He's going to score. Nah, he ain't scoring no touchdown. He's too happy.

We saw Brandon's pitch. He's too happy. Nah, niggas can't be happy to play their sport. He's teasing just. Nah, niggas can't be happy. That let you know he done scored before. He done scored. You can't be teasing like that if they never scored now.

We saw Brandon's pitch. Y'all can ride with him or fade him if you want. Gil doesn't know this, but we'll be sharing his picks for the game on tomorrow's show. Yeah, we will, Gil. We're taking over. I wouldn't listen to anything. I'm going to just be guessing. I wouldn't listen to

nothing you say about football. Hey, Underdog been really doing it. They give you quick picks. Hey, hey, chat, don't be dumb. That's crazy. Don't be dumb. Sometimes that's good. Ride with them or fade them, whatever you want to do. Zay Flowers, 4.5 reception, higher.

I'm going with you. Tomorrow. It's tomorrow. Oh, that's not the game today? No, but the game is tomorrow. We're going to get your picks tomorrow to really build some anticipation. Oh, okay. Where's my Rams?

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we're on YouTube. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So since it is football season, go start the show live, it's on YouTube. We've got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So since it is football season, go start the show. Show us some love. Trick plays are nothing new, but this might be one of the best ones that I've seen. So yesterday, a decade-old video of this fake punt from Downey High School in Modesto, California, resurfaced.

So the punter takes a snap, throws an underhanded pass downfield, meant to look like a punt. You see it, boop, while one of the gunners runs downfield and catches it. The receiving team is oblivious. That's hard. Did he have to throw it like that? I think it gives the illusion, like, if you look in the air, oh, he punted it.

That's hard. Like I said, this play is from 2013, but started making his rounds on the internet yesterday. So on a scale from 0 to 100, how would you rate this trick play? 0 to 100? I mean, for a high school level, 100. 100? Yeah.

Can't really do it in college or NFL, I'm going to be real. They're not going for it. You'd be surprised how... So maybe college. You'd be surprised. You still got pros that get on the court and make layups on the wrong basket. So, you know, it happens. Yeah.

Right? It happens. College, I can see for sure happening. That video game is dumb. The video game. It all depends. Like, if the line decides to jump so they can't see that he throws it, you can pull it off.

Yeah. Risky, but high school. Yeah. How stupid are you? So, let's shift it over to basketball. Because we are sometimes at a basketball show. What was your favorite trick, play, or move when you were hooping? Favorite trick, play, or move when you were hooping.

Oh, mine was for sure behind the back. I came out the jump in the NBA. Ah. All that. I had all that, so. Behind the back. With a fake pass. Mm. I had all that, so behind the back. With the fake pass. I had all that in my game. I had the fake pass.

The fake pass like this? Yeah, it was, you know. All right, come off real hard, I got you. Right? Ah, and go. Damn got you. All right. Ah, didn't go. Damn, you know what's crazy? That's not a trick.

You know what's crazy? It is a trick. Curl through. Curl through. I was about to say, that's how the nigga was triggering me. That was the trick play for me. And I was... Tricky.

Keep going. Go out the other side. He would look at me and be like, yeah. It was like, that got to be a trick because you're going stop doing that shit to me You gonna stop looking me off like that Tricking your teammates into thinking you were a fake handoff Or the fake handoff like coming to you Oh my god

It was supposed to be the dribble handoff for me to you to go up top? Yeah, that shit nasty. Kept it every time did you? Yeah, I had it all. Yeah, of course. Rashad, what trick play did you have? Back screen for the three. Uh, probably like as a back... Were you an ethical hooper? Backdoor.

Okay. An ethical hooper. Yeah. You said it was ethical. Used to pull up, like, when fake the backdoor, I'd grab their arm and pull them and go the other way. I'd pull a nigga whole arm out of the socket. Damn.

Hell yeah, lame, Nick. Kind of strong. It don't bounce. and go the other way. I pull a nigga's whole arm out of the socket. Damn. Hell yeah, lame, Nick. Kind of strong. Oh, it don't bounce. Damn. There's another one? There's one over there. And those are fine.

What you about to do? What are we doing? You got to put errors in your basketball. If y'all care about my favorite move, it's the Rondo fake layup. I did it one time last year on Brittany Griner. Ooh. Got her big ass off the ground? Mm-hmm, twice. Fake,ondo fake layup. I did it one time last year on Brittany Griner. Ooh. Got her big ass off the ground? Mm-hmm. Twice. Fake, fake layup.

She probably made noises. You might get one or two of those a year from me. Did you talk your shit afterwards? Uh, no, I didn't. I'm not a big shit talker, guys. I didn't hear no with the... It was a close game. I was locked in. We were behind, I didn't. Okay. I'm not a big shit talker, guys. I didn't hear that. What the... It was a close game.

I was locked in. We were behind, I think. Whatever. Personal achievements. No, we won. I mean, we won the game. Okay. I had to move.

I had to move. I had 26 that game. I used to perfect. I never did it. And you have the ball in your hands now, Gil. We have Parkhead Court. I mean, I we too old to use the shit but for someone who can so it's technically Would it be a travel

Maybe technically up and down. Okay, right. Wait, how far go? Okay, so okay So we got the Y camp too. So on a one four flat I used to go boom I used to do in high school, but but I was so fast that you couldn't tell that I already landed back Mm-hmm. So I thought off boom boom behind the back and then I jump already Throw the ball back that way right? So come in boom boom boom boom and then jump and go to oh Yeah, so I'll jump out of the air so you know horse ago and then go back and go They already already came back down and the dude was already He already bit was just going to the ball coming with you like this and then boom. Yeah nice lady Tell me that is some free game. I never got to use it in the NBA though.

You did it in high school though? Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's nice. Well, I've seen that shit. Free game courtesy of Gilbert Arenas on your favorite show, Gil's Arena, presented by 100 Dog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop.

Whoop, whoop. So let's talk about the other side. Who was the craftiest player that you played against when you were in the league? Craftiest? Just tricks, moves, knew how to manipulate the game to their advantage and there was nothing you could do about it I'm gonna say Tinsley hmm and what was crafty about everything tomorrow tip these guys he had that they're gonna string like we like we were scared to down it on them you know like you ice it

so I said and the big man not the big man tried to come out there. He always threw it between their legs. So then it come like this, and then they give up the split, right? So, yeah, in the pose here, throw it behind your back, do all that. Like, he was literally doing N1 stuff out there, so. I'll say Steve Nash. Really? Yeah.

That's a crafty motherfucker. That's a crafty motherfucker. That's a crafty motherfucker. What kind of stuff was he hitting you with? No, he was hitting us with all kinds of shit in that pick and roll. It was so much. It's hard to dictate whether Steve Nash was a super elite point guard or not because Amari contributes so much to his career. If Amari's not a dynamic roller the way that he is

and we got to come in and he gets all those options out there, his craftiness is, like, limited. When we played with Dirk, it was just him and Dirk. You didn't ever really see him getting off with everyone else. I opened the floor, you look at Steve Nash, he's out there doing all kind of crazy passes. You don't really have that freedom unless you got somebody you can throw that bitch to. You're guaranteed every time you're down there just fucking around, you're like, ah.

Jason Williams, he always had Chris Webber, you know what I'm saying? Or Vladi. One of them motherfuckers is down there ready to catch this bitch. Tried to stay on White Chocolate. Definitely had a lot of crafty tricks in the back. Steve Nash and White Chocolate probably the craftiest. And J. Kid, here them three just crazy How about yourself bring I'm gonna say Kyrie Irving

Jamal Crawford, yeah, Jay crossover Man I feel like Ginobili was crafty too for sure. Yeah, I was gonna ask like I was gonna ask that. What's the real definition between a crafty player and a very skilled, talented player? When you said Ginobili, I was like, okay, yes. Him, Gordon Drogic. When I speak of craft, I think of maybe someone that's not as gifted athletically maybe as other players, but they figure out a way to get open

get get to their spots and like do what they want to do even if they might not be the biggest the strongest the quickest but they like. Andre Miller. Crafty. Andre Miller. That's crafty. So Brunson. Will Brunson be crafty? Crafty. It's almost like taking the skill set which we're trying to give them and they're enhancing it and coming out of the box. Like we only say, oh, Brunson, he's small. He can only do this. Right.

But he shows you he's crafty. He's taking the craft of what you're giving him and he's dissecting it and adding shit to it. You're like, damn, this nigga, he keeps getting better in a small area. Okay, so is this the argument that's being missed, right? When someone says the new generation is more skilled, is it that they're more craftier? Less craftier.

No, back then. Yeah, way more craftier. So the 80s and 90s were more, they were craftier players, which they call, we have better IQs. Yes. Right, so when you think like John Stockton, you think like even somebody like Dennis Rodman, he was a crafty type of player.

They had to craft the shit. So they were crafty. They were literally in there cooking up the shit like, yo, I have to do this. I have to, but it's the same. We're more crafty than that. Let me give you the definition of crafty. Clever at achieving one's aims by indirect or deceitful methods. So when you say somebody like Dennis Rodman

Larry Bird yeah, not as fast. He's crafty quick. Just he's very Elusive illusion type shit like that's a crafty player to me so Chris Paul's craft is for okay. Yeah, Chris Paul's craft is Crafty Rondo. Rondo's probably the most craftiest point guard in history. Let's shift to the WNBA side. Well, I'll take it. When I'm thinking of crafty players,

I'm thinking of a player like she didn't, she's not a major ball handler, but the way she was able to get to her spots and like navigate off of off-ball screens and off-ball movement was Allie Quigley. Okay. She's a shooter. She she's not she doesn't play anymore but I played with her in Chicago so I was able to watch her like up close like in practice and in games and stuff but like her footwork was crazy she's not super strong she's kind of like I want to say frail but when you look at her you're like she could go like that but like she'll go off for like 30 40 if you like let her get loose so she was someone that I would

consider like a crafty player for sure okay yeah she could shoot the shit out the ball Chad also saying Kyrie so we got to give him some love yeah Kyrie yeah Kyrie's the exception though because you're not supposed to be crafty like him at that level yeah they both that falls under I guess it will fall on the crafty like him at that level. That's what I said. They're both crafty. I guess it will fall under crafty. Because you think about Steph's upbringing.

Brandon Roy was crafty. Brandon Roy. What would Joe Johnson fall under? Crafty. Crafty. That's a lot of them. A whole other tier. James Harden is crafty.

Yes. James Harden is crafty. Paul Pierce is crafty. Huh? What doesen is crafty. Paul Pierce is crafty. Huh? What is Dwayne Wade? Yes, he's a twink. Yeah, he's a twink. I mean, the way he moved was crafty.

Yeah, because he was smaller. He had to do certain other shit to make him good. Was D. Rose crafty his MVP year? I've never seen a point guard move like that. But how he did. But, yes, how he moved. No, the way D. Rose was moving at 23. I would say the 50 he got in Minnesota was a crafty 50

because he wasn't who he was with the athleticism then. Think about what craft, to be crafty, you have to do with. But he couldn't shoot like that and he was still like. To do without. Like you're doing without the shit that other people got. I got to be crafty. That 50 he got in Minnesota wasn't D. Rose at his most athletic. He had to go and be the D. Rose he didn't even know he could be.

I got to be crafty with this shit. I can't go in there and dunk on niggas. I got to hit this jumper. So is that where the Euros, like, they're craftier? Crafty as fuck. They have no choice, though. They have no choice. So we call it fundamentals, but if all fundamentals are craft.

But do those stretch outside of fundamentals? I think SGA is crafty. SGA. He is Mr. Craft. He's Mr. Craft. He's Mr. Craft. Like today, I'm just thinking of players now. But that's why we give him so much credit because that craftiness is efficiency. That 30 a game he's getting,

we don't know how he's going to get it, but he's going to get it. You got to include the efficiency of how you play too. You're doing all that stuff and you're not efficient. You're just doing a lot of shit. You got to be efficient. Those would be the arguments when people would be talking about skill versus athleticism and then there's that third one that's the craft. You're talking about Luka. What do you think about Luka? I think Luka's crafty. Extremely.

What would make him crafty? He always at his own place. I guess it's the illusion. At his own place. The pace. The illusion of he's going fast, he's not going fast. Because he's got the height advantage. He's sitting like.

But let's just be real. When you see Luka, you just look at him and you're like, I can cook this dude. I can lock him up. And then you got to try to lock him up. And you see he's different. And then he starts giving you all that. I can cook this dude. I can lock him up. And then you got to try to lock him up. And you see he's different. And he starts giving you all that. And that's the point. Not a super athletic dude, but can get to any shot he wants.

Yeah, he's crafty for sure. And then also Trey Young out there, we got to give him some love too. One of your craftier players in the league right now. For sure. Love Trey game. Shout out to Trey. But let's keep this thing moving. Michael Porter Jr. signed a five-year max extension with the Nuggets back in 2021.

That happened with the team through 2027. But all that glitters ain't gold. During a recent interview on Austin Rivers' Off Guard podcast, MPJ touched on the pressure and expectations that come with signing a max contract. The money almost, honestly, sometimes makes it a little bit harder to enjoy the game because with a max contract comes a lot of expectations on consistency on you're supposed to be an all-star you're supposed to be this that whatever they say um so sometimes it can take away a little bit of the joy just because of all the expectations that surround it so

um but overall it's a blessing you know what I mean? But it never, it definitely never made me less hungry. If anything, it made me want to prove that I'm, you know, worth what they gave me. Okay. He got paid max. Yeah, back in 2021. I think it was like a five-year, 207 mil. Go ahead and throw me that max.

Five-year what? 207, I believe. Okay, so. I think. It's the terminology that... Let me just shut up. He has versus every... Like...

Max, we have to understand there's another level to Max. It's called Super Max. Yeah. Those are the guys with the expectations to perform and be superstars. Right? Max is no different than... So he falls under the... The Lamar Odom. Yeah. falls under the Lamar Odom,

right? The Lamar Odom, and the Vance, Shane Battier, that's that 60 to that's that 60 for what is it? Anywhere from 60 to 10, anywhere from 10 million to 15 million. Some of your best role players are

Max now. Yeah, but our day is that 10 million to 15 million. I mean, some of your best role players are maxed now. Yeah, but, yeah. So, you know, our day is that six, that 10 million, right? For what, three? No, no, 10 million a year. So it's six years, 60, 60. Six years, 60, five years, 60, 50. Yeah, right? So you're the third option, second option.

You know, you're just, the only expectation really is just to be consistent. Just, you know, that's what I's it i've heard no other expectation for him than not not we're not telling you to carry the team just be good day if you have your job but if i'm giving you a max deal at that age but it's like super max but i'm saying the expectation is you're gonna be an all-star no that's super max hey that's super max that's super max he's putting an expectation on himself but a lot of guys sign those max with the caveat if they make that on me They get that extra 40. No what I'm saying is Super max is the superstar

His max is not my max max. So when we used to say we were max players Brit is not the same as him Because my max is now called a super Max. His Max is a third option, second option type of guy. Your Max comes with accolades and achievements. Yes. His does not have any requirements of none of those. His requirement is just, that's what I said.

Be consistent. His is like the Lamar Odom. He's not even Ron Artest. Like, Ron Artest was borderline the Supermax type of person. For sure. So he was right in that he's above Bruce Bowen. Yeah. I would say he has the same as Ginobili.

Ginobili, yeah. Like, if Ginobili was a startup, you're supposed to be Ginobili. If you make an all-star, fuck yeah. If you don't, eh. You're still Ginobili. You're still Ginobili, yeah. Like, if Ginobili was a startup, you supposed to be Ginobili. If you make an All-Star, fuck yeah. If you don't, eh. You still Ginobili. You still Ginobili. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Just for context, he signed a Ricky Maxx extension at that point. So it's now a- And it was five year, 207? That's crazy. Wait, wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That changes.

That's what I'm- That's what they gave Michael Porter? Yeah. So that's Luka. That's Maxx'm understated. That's what they gave Michael Porter? Yeah. So that's Luka, that's Max. Yeah, bro. That's why it sounds crazy. The way that the team is like shaken out, it's like

kind of been pushed to the second, third option of that team. You should have said Rookie Max. Yeah. Rookie Max is a whole different than just... Yeah, five-year designated Max extension from... They're treating him like a star. And he's not used to the expectation. That was 2021.

So he's not used to it? When he signed it. That's what he said. He's saying like... I don't... Jamal, so I'll just give you some context, Lexi. Thank you for asking. The Jamal Murray final year of his deal, he's getting $36 million this year. Michael Porter has three years left on his deal. He's getting $35.8 million.

They're making pretty much the same amount already. Oh, yeah. So now, yeah, there has to be some type of... Can we hear that Michael Porter Jr. clip again, Paolo? We'll be safe watching. The money almost, honestly, sometimes makes it a little bit harder to enjoy the game because with a max contract comes a lot of expectations

on consistency, on you're supposed to be an all-star, you're supposed to be this, that, whatever they say. So sometimes it can take away a little bit of the joy just because of all the expectations that surround it. But overall it's a blessing. But it definitely never

made me less hungry. If anything, it made me want to prove that I'm worth what they gave me. I mean, would you rather be saying, prove it, then we'll pay you, or are we going to pay you, then prove it? If you feel like the money's an issue, give it back. I'm about to say. Give it back.

Give it back. If you think it's too much for you, my nigga, give it back. Give it back. Because that's what it sounds like to me. It's like, yo, it's weird. They say we believe in you. Here's the money. You took the money, my nigga.

You took it. Like, you know what responsibility now is to perform. How could it take the love out of the game? You just got paid 20 mil to hoop. And just for more content. And you just won. Prior to those comments, he said he would play for free or play for enough just to feed himself.

I don't get what the fuck he's talking about. Because one, then it was like, well, you know, it doesn't take away from the joke. Like, which one is it? I can see his comments, right? And I can see why they paid him. Remember, he came in with a back injury.

Back injury. Right? And he came back 55 games, only started eight, averaged nine. That following year, don't know how he didn't win most improved because he averaged 19. He got paid then. Was that the year Ja won most improved? Did he win most improved?

It was 2020. 2021. So right after the COVID year, that real, that weird year. Ant-Man came in that year. It was that, yeah, it was that weird year. It might have been Ja or Mark. I think Julius Randle, Julius Randle won it in 2021. Okay, so he averages 19.

Mark's in one of them. He averages 19. They paid him. Then he gets hurt the next year. Okay. Only played nine games. Right? So 21, 22, he played nine games.

Then the following year when he was healthy, 17. That's when he won the championship. Right? And then this year, 16. Now. So his shit went down. So in reality, look, he got paid off of the big year. That big year. Injured. And when he came back, he came back off of the big year, that big year injured.

And when he came back, he came back to a new team. And the new team was Jokic took the lead. See, when he was when he was playing, it was just Jokic was still trying to figure himself out when he came back. And he's ready to contribute. Jokic is number one. Murray's finding out he's number two. And he is the complete number three. That was Bubble Murray? Was that Bubble Murray? This is after Bubble Murray.

So both of them got live before the, like, right in the bubble and after the bubble. So Murray was the bubble, right? Murray was bubble. Going crazy. Jokic was the next year. He was out. He popped off. The next year. He was out. He popped off. The next year.

The next year. And then he get hurt. Murray comes back. But Joker pops up that year. But Joker won MVP 2021, won his first MVP. Yeah. In 2021. In 2021.

So the 2020 was the bubble. Yeah, 2020. So that's when Dwight got a hold of Joker. Murray popped off. Murray popped off. And then Joker and MPJ popped off together that next year. Because Murray got hurt. Yeah, and then Murray.

He got hurt. He got hurt. Okay. So they've just been doing this the whole time. So I can understand because the expectations, like you're supposed to be an all-star for now, but when you look at the trajectory, nah. It's not supposed to fuck up the love for the game for you.

Yeah, but who said that? But I can get it. But who's saying hey? No, no, who's saying that? I haven't heard anybody say MJ is like underperforming. No, I mean, he's probably not. Yeah, but like he knows he has to make decisions for himself. Oh, yeah. He is.

A lot of people. His family, everybody around him. Okay, been number one. He's been number one since he's been playing. Now, we can't look at it like, we can't look at it like, we got to look at everything that's went on. Then you have your brothers and all that. Yeah.

There's probably a lot of shit just mentally that has nothing to do with the game right that's really going on with them right so you have to take in consideration that all right well you probably can fall a lot of love with it because it's like it ain't been going as smooth as you have wanted yeah he's number one prospect and a back injury and all that yeah but say that but don't say it because i'm getting paid yeah we say it because of that. We don't want to hear that shit because you signed a contract. If he got paid, if he was making $100, $107,

$150, no one gives a two shits. But he got paid the max off of that. Nobody said anything since they won. No, MPJ, it was a five-year, $207 was the max if he would have made an all-NBA team. It ended up being a five-year $180 because he the max if he would have made an all-NBA team. It ended up being a five-year, 180 because he has yet to do that.

Ah, so he gets his incentive. If he makes the all-NBA team. Yeah, so five-year, 180 for someone who averaged 19, been averaging 17 and 16, only 25? That's insane. Nigga, you cool. You cool. You got a tip, you shit. Wait, how old is he? 25? He's only 25. He got a tip. He got a tip you cool. You cool. You got a tip, you said. Wait, how old is he?

25. He got a tip. He got a tip. He got a tip. He got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip.

Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip.

Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, he got a tip. Yo, feel like you're worth that, I'm worth that. Just talk about the off the course. No, say it's off the course. I'm pretty sure, like, you can see he was going through it some years, man. And then the two brothers. I mean, he has been dealing with a lot. He lost a brother. He all deals with a lot.

Right. He all deals with a lot. This summer, this year. Yeah. He lost a brother, right? I think car accident. That was Aaron's brother. No, no, no.

Oh, that was Aaron's brother. No, no, no. Yeah. But his brothers are all dealing with some legal situation. But you've got some family. I mean. Okay, well, say that. Like, he should was Gordon. No, no, yeah. But his brothers are all dealing with some legal situation. But you've got some family. I mean. Okay, well, say that. Like, he should be popping.

But, I mean. He is popping. He is. We're talking about he's an NBA champion. But that's the thing. He know he's supposed to be in a different position. Bro, it didn't work like that. Bro, you can look at the algorithm of the team changing.

It's all right. You got paid, though, right? That's the thing. You got paid. Show up and do your fucking job, bro. The next one you're going to get. You would rather have gotten paid then than try to get paid today. That's what that's the thing. You got paid. Go up and do your fucking job, bro. The next one you're going to get. You'd rather have gotten paid then than try to get paid today. That's what I said.

That was a point you just made. Get paid now and prove it or prove it then get paid. Like, which situation would you prefer? He actually went in. He actually went in because he got a, you know, now they know what his worth is. And you won. So you're good. You're a champion.

You got the brand. But if it's off the court things, then just say that. But we still can't change the feeling. I mean, it's still a feeling that he has. You know what his worth is. And you won. So you're good. You're a champion. You got the bread. But if it's off the court things, then just say that, though. But we still can't change the feeling. I mean, it's still a feeling that he has. You know what I mean? We can sit here and judge his feeling, but we don't have it.

No, I mean, what they say is the injury. But say what it is, though. When we talk about what our issue was with Hoop, it's like, yeah, it was off the court shit for me. I'm not going to say, oh, because of this coach or this contract. It's like, no, it was off the court shit. But this might be his real issue., oh, because of this coach or this contract. It's like, no, it was off the court shit.

But this might be his real issue. Well, then say that. Don't say, oh. He did. No, he said, when you get a mass contract, you know, it's the pressure of performance.

That probably is his problem. Well, then why you sign it then? Yeah, at what point... Nobody feels sorry for you. At what point... I signed it when I was averaging 19. I didn't know I was going to get hurt the next year.

I didn't know my brother was... At what point does personal issues actually affect the contract? Like, you signed the contract, your personal issues happened. Are those issues supposed to stop you from coming in here? No, no, no, no. But he ain't stopping. Think about it.

When we sign a max contract, when we get hurt, something happens. The media don't take that into consideration, right? It's just you're a max player. What the fuck is going on? Man, you hurt. Right? I'm hurt. What has the media said about it?

Right, that's what I'm saying. Who said anything about him? They haven't said anything. Show me somebody that's really big time that's saying, yo, this guy's not it. We don't know. Nobody. A lot of people think that he's playing really good basketball. In his position and with the team dynamic.

The local media in Denver is only from the mile high. That's it. I think that he does a great job on that team. Keep that local shit local. Obviously, he can do better. You always want to do better. team. Keep that local shit local. Obviously, you can do better. You always want to do better. You're local. You're local.

You always want to do better, but you're good. You're good. You're a perfect piece on a good team. If anything, you should start loving the game a little bit more, man.

The pressure make you love it more. Yeah. Like what? No, I just think if it's off the court, then I'm not going to address it. But if it's more like what's going on around the team?

I mean, I think he's in the best position making money to spend a million dollars a year on his body like the King does No, I don't think How he had it then him trying to sound like if he didn't sign that now and he's trying to sign right now Right, they're gonna to use the injury, they're going to use a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with talent itself. You already know. You got three years.

You got three years to be a superman. All it takes is an all-NBA and goddamn it, you right back there, so shit. Yo, money can't fix everything, though. It can't pay for internal. You crazy as hell. Make it feel better, though. No, it can't. It can't pay for internal. You crazy as hell. Make it feel better though. Money can't pay for internal.

It can't make it feel better. It helps. It helps. Oh man. Driving all the way home. You gonna stop. You gonna stop. Halfway. Halfway.

You're going to stop crying. What did y'all say? Just a Band-Aid. All right. Just a Band-Aid. It's a strong Band-Aid. A Band-Aid with super glue on it. I don't know if a Band-Aid with super glue.

That will hurt when it comes off. Money can't fix internals, so don't listen to that bullshit. I agree. But does that money magnify some of those internal problems? Like, just for all of y'all. I mean, listen, if you want to die alone with your money, then go ahead. But when y'all got y'all NBA bags, how did life change for you on and off the court? And I'm even kind of with MPJ saying just the stress, the pressure.

Everybody sees that when that report comes out. Does the phone start blowing up? People start hitting you up? Families start coming out the window? That's the perfect time to get people. I'm your cousin. I lost it all. I know what it feel like to have it and lose it

and get it again. So I'm telling you right now, everything this nigga Gilbert is saying right now, nigga, let me tell you something. The shit that you crying when you can't do this, when you can't count that shit, man, that's a lot more painful than counting when you looking at it. You looking at that shit like, man, I can pay all these bills.

I can actually help him with his bills, her with her bills. Yeah. Life ain't that fucking bad unless I want it to be that fucking bad. You got to want it to be bad to have all the things you can pay for to make you feel a little bit better. Feel a little bit safer. A little bit. But if you...

A little bit. If you overindulge in that shit, you do too much, then it can be a detriment to you. A little bit. Why you can't have it all?

Why you can't have both? Internal and happening. You can. It's just not being greedy. It takes work. That's you. It takes work. You just don't be greedy.

You can't have both without God, so. That's what both is. That's what both is. How are we talking crazy? Both is God. If there's no God in it, then there's no internal. You're not internally happy. Both of them is God.

Internal happiness is you. It's abundance. It's with God, too, though. It's abundance. It's with God, too, though. It's you. If you want to wake up and be miserable, you will wake up and be miserable. You will.

For sure, bro. That's what you think and say. For sure. I overcame it, bro. I literally came out that motherfucker. Nobody picked me up and was like, yo, get out. I was like, nah, I got to stop feeling sorry for my fucking self, nigga. Let me go say something to this nigga.

Keep walking by this nigga like I don't want to say nothing to him. And what happened? You open your mouth. Closed mouth don't get fed. That's the universe. Closed mouth don't get fed. That's the universe. But't want to say nothing to him. And what happened? You open your mouth. Clothes don't get fed. That's the universe. Clothes don't get fed. That's the universe. But you got to be nice, too.

You got to understand shit ain't going to be given to you. You got to go get it. Of course. I went and got that shit. Hey, Gil, what's up, my nigga? Hey. What's up, my nigga? You good?

Ain't no other niggas was giving me shit, my nigga. They still not. Yeah, exactly. Wake up and be happy. You wake up and be happy. I mean, yeah, you can wake up and be happy. But that ain't everything. That ain't everything.

You know what I'm doing now, though? That ain't everything. You know what I'm doing now, though? How much you need? What you want to get something? I mean, that's fine. That's fine. I mean, that's fine.

That's fine. That's fine, but it's more to life than that, though. That's true. It's a part of life, though. No. it's more to life than that, though. That's true. It's a part of life, though. No. It's more to life than that, though. I never heard somebody who don't have it say life is great.

Man. You said what? Nobody who don't have it saying life is great. I've never seen a bomb bomb. I didn't say life wasn't great, but that doesn't mean that he... Life is great. They ain't got no money, and they ain't... But that doesn't mean life isn't...

Like, he's happy, though, every day. He might go in the house and blow his fucking head off. That's his personal problem. So that means money ain't everything. Money can't keep you happy at night. Money can't keep you happy. We can do all that all you want, but we know what it is at night. Money don't do nothing.

Everybody know what it is at night. Like, money don't do nothing. Money supposed to make your life easier. Well, no, it doesn't. It does. If you use it right. If you use doesn't. If you use it right. If you use money right. Like, if I want to go home,

if I got millions of dollars, I'm miserable, blowing my head off. Somebody has like, why are you miserable? Because I'm choosing to be. That means there's some shit out here that got nothing to do with nothing, but I'm miserable inside. It's something from the past.

That's therapy. You need to pay for therapy. Exactly. You're rich and you need therapy. A lot of people with money need therapy. That's something from the past that you're not... That's therapy. You need to pay for therapy. Exactly. You're rich and you need therapy. A lot of people with money need therapy. That's all I'm saying. It's internal. That's your problem. What? That's your problem. I follow the Europeans on this. I don't got no

rear view mirrors in my cars. I ain't looking back. I ain't looking... Bye. I mean, they also don't live in America. They also don't live in America. It also didn't happen to go. Ew. Like us either. They also don't have the gold. Hey, because all you're doing is, if you're looking back there, everything you, in front

of you, you're going to crash into. All right. Or miss. When I go through a door, I'm closing this motherfucker, because I don't need nothing back there following me. God damn it, this is a room you can't get in. Fact. Closed. Locked lock like the hotel lock

the door close the door I'm just gonna stay home. Make sure everything, yeah. Right, we're gonna do all that. Stay at home. The two-sided mirrors? Like, you think they got two-sided mirrors at the courtyard? That's the reason why everybody, when we did the poll, asking motherfuckers whether a billion dollars no rings or 500 million in a ring or some shit. It was like 500 million, 300 million no rings or 50 million, but they did a new one

They did a new what was a billion. It was a billion dollars. No rings and then 500 million Oh, they were asking the young kids. Yeah, the younger kids at the Mamba Academy. Yeah One one. Yeah, I mean females females said no no no to you ever to to to females say I take the rings So all the biggest That's the thought process of our society now they get you something Money can get you out of the shit that you in and got you thinking about other people it can be it can be I'm not internally right today. You have all got it, but I can go If you're not in turn right you always gonna have problems so all that not looking in the back, you're always going to have to. But that ain't got nothing to do with money or non-money.

That's just you personally. That is. That's fact. That's fact. You're just using the money as a excuse. As a reason why to be miserable. Using the money. No, you're using the money to clean up the bullshit.

No, that's if you got it. Some people don't have money. That's what people do. You're using the money to clean up the bullshit. What is the bullshit, though? Is the bullshit family shit that you're just scared it. That's what people do. They're using the money to clip the bullshit. Is the bullshit family shit that you're just scared to talk about? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That don't cost nothing. That's a conversation of pride and ego.

That don't cost you no money. You show up and show out. Get it on. Scared to tell the truth. You know what it is? That's what truth is. Scared for them to not like you when they're not gonna like it no matter what you do you tell somebody yes 99 times when you're rich 99 times you say no one time oh nigga you the enemy man they trying to hunt you down you the enemy you

better not show your face around here no more like one time sure everybody who hates you you took care of that is just the law that's a rich person no that's a fact everybody you all your enemies you used to take care of one person at a time and then you said nah i'm good you became the enemy facts bro at that point i don't give a i don't give a fuck take care of your enemies that's deep damn and not know that they was your enemy your friend of me that was That was deep. You know what I'm saying? That's the bar, though, too. Yeah, that was hard. That's real. That 99, as soon as you stray from the course. Say no one time.

One time, Lex. One time. That goes for everybody. Basically, you're supposed to say yes all the time, because the one time you say no, you the enemy. Yeah, she go to the other niggas. You better off saying no 99 times than say yes one to you, the motherfucker's savior. That's why I like playing the villain.

I like being the villain. Ain't nothing better than just seeing a nigga react when you say no. When you say no, you see a motherfucker scramble, because you know what they want? They want to know why. Why are you saying no? There's nothing more pleasing than explaining why I have to say no. You enjoy that. I fucking enjoy it.

Let me tell you something. I'm Fire Marshal Bill. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about yourself. I used to do this, man. And that's why my phone. I don't get no incoming calls. I don't want to hear your problems.

Projecting onto me. I don't want to hear, oh, man, the rent. Shit, I'm trying to score 30 now. I ain't got time to be fucking with you. Your conversation, this information is not helping me score. It's not helping me play. It's not helping me do nothing today. Right?

You're not helping me with my profession. I'm not taking on your energy. Right? So I don't want to hear nobody sob stories. Sex. Right? Right? If I say no and on your energy, right? So I don't want to hear nobody's sob stories. Sex. Right? If I say no, and you say why, if I say yes, are you going to ask me why, or are you just going to accept my money?

Thank you. If you're going to just accept my money, then accept my motherfucking no, too. Thank you. I don't need to explain. Why? Bitch, because I don't want to. I just feel like saying no. I don't know.

I don't know why I said no, but it's no. It's no. I want to go to sleep. I want to spend my money. This $2,000, I want to spend it on something else. I want to buy me I don't know why I said no, but it's no. It's no. I want to go to sleep. I want to spend my money. This $2,000, I want to spend it on something else. I want to buy me a motherfucking T-bone steak with gold on it. I don't know. I don't know.

You don't want to do what I want to do? I don't know what I want to do. You don't want to do what I want to do? No. I just know I don't want to give it to you. So y'all feel like money takes away a lot of issues. For you personally. If you know how to manage the money, you can literally clean up any problem that you have.

Any problem you have. You can't clean up anybody else's problem. No, for sure. Your personal, remember, your issues yourself usually is generic. Facts. Right? Majority of your problems is something that has to do with everybody else. Other than yourself. It's not you. Right? Mm-hmm. Majority of your problems is something that has to do with everybody else. Other than yourself.

It's not you. Right? If everybody was gone out your... You would be happier than a motherfucking life. But this person's hanging on you. This person's hanging on you. This person's hanging on you. This...

Everybody's hanging on you and you think that's your shit. Who are you? It's not. Most of the time, you just sit back... People. Other people. that's your shit. Who are you? It's not. Most of the people other people if you sit back and say why are you mad like I had to ask somebody

yo you mad at me okay what did I do to you? Well you talked to this person wrong. No, no, no, no. What did I do to you personally? Talk to me. Tell me what I did.

The way you was talking to no, no, no, no, no. What did I do to you? You Talk to me. Oh. Tell me what I did. The way you was talking to... No, no, no, no, no. What did I do to you? You're inheriting their beef. Yes. You can't inherit their beef. They earned this motherfucking problem with me.

What did I do to you? You have no problem. You're just a spokesperson for this person. See, it's the questioning you got to get into understanding where to get to the root of the problem. What's the problem? You be like, yo, I'm having this issue with... What's your issue? You having issues with traveling?

You know money can solve that, right? All right, so that issue's gone now. I'm having issues with, you know, paying the babysitter for the... You know money can solve that, right? All these things can be paid for to alleviate any problem. Anything outside of that is mental. It's like, nigga, are you disciplined to get rid of this thing?

This ain't nothing you can pay for to get rid of. So would you take a billion dollars over the love of your life? A billion dollars over the love of your life? I'm not even responding to that. Mm-hmm. Me neither. The love of my life is me. Listen, listen.

The love of my life is me. The love of my life is me. I know that's right. That's a bar. That's a bar. Would you take a billion dollars over a person? Like a woman you can be with. Yeah, I mean, that woman. Over a woman?

I mean, a woman. Over a woman? The love of your life. A billion dollars over a woman? Yeah, I mean. But that woman can help you too. Help you do what? Spend a billion?

Or more. Spend it? You know women be shopping, but that woman can help you, too. Help you do what? Spend a billion? Or more. Spend it? You know women be shopping, right? You can build up like a... Wait, so that's the question? The love of your life that can get you a billion dollars or a billion dollars itself? No, no, I'm just saying, like, you can build a foundation with this woman and... Or take a billion dollars. Oh, just take a billion dollars and be alone. Build a foundation with a billion

dollars? And just be alone. And build a foundation with a billion dollars? I mean, yeah, with different baby mamas and... Wait, wait. You, what I'm saying... What is the option? You have to give me an option. Yeah, what's the option? Because... The option is...

If I get the billion... I either just be with a woman that I really love. No, no, I mean, no, no. Yeah, but you don't... You will never get real love, nothing. You will just be fucking on women and you can have babies. And I'll have a billion dollars. But you can have this one woman and build with her for the rest of your life.

And get to a billion dollars? No, you can't get to a billion dollars. I mean, yeah, yes. Yes, you're building get to a billion dollars. I mean, yeah, yes. You're building a foundation, a family fortune. Because why can't I get the billion dollars and build a foundation? So you're going to have to have. You can't have both. Something without, you can't get both. You can't have both, clearly. What, because you're marrying without.

So I'm marrying without. So you're not going for the billion. You're not going for the billion. No, no, you're just going for this. You're just going for her. Yeah, what God put on this earth. Okay, and then I got the billion dollars and then I'm just going to be single and die single. No, no, you're just going for this. Just going for her. Yeah, what God put on this earth. Okay, and then I got the billion dollars, and then I'm just going to be single and die single. Ain't no die single. How much?

How much? How much? That doesn't mean single. How much? How much it costs? Can you buy that? I'm just asking. Can you buy that? Just ask the question. Is everything transactional right now anyway, ain't it? Ain't they selling love on the internet?

What did he say? Give me your belly, that belly, that belly. That's fine. I'm just asking. Ain't everything for sale right now? Uh-uh. Rashad, love don't cost a thing. It don't cost a thing.

What's love got to do with it? No, technically, it costs a billion dollars. What's love got to do with it? A billion, five hundred thousand, whatever. I mean... I'm taking it. I'm gonna take the billion. Only reason I'm gonna take the billion is because at some point we're gonna get old and I'm gonna die by myself any motherfucking way. You know how much... Because if she die, first, I'm by myself.

If I die, she still out-die by myself. So either way, goddamnit, while I'm alive, I'm enjoying my life. How much money do you got before when you get her? How much money do you got? Because we ain't got no money to do shit now. We needed that billion. You wasn't going to get her. I could have circled back.

But you was never going to get her the way you're going to have her. She's just going to be a fling. She's just going to be a fling. A consistent fling. And then keeping you just with shit every day how do i know this is my person did god god come down and said this is your person yeah okay god came down and said this is gonna be your person and the rest of your life you're gonna be 100 happy no no i mean no you going to go through your thing. No. You're going to go through shit with a billion dollars.

No, no. It's not. We ain't going through a goddamn thing. You're not going to walk through Earth with a billion dollars not going through nothing either. But you guys are going to make it work. You're going to be tested in life. I can't pick her

and still be tested. No, it's not tested. Of course, you're gonna be tested with a billion dollars. Not like that. You're gonna be doing dumb shit. Get the devil. Like, come on. I'd rather test it with this. So we asked the chat, would you rather have a billion dollars or the love of your life?

75% said a billion dollars. Come on, man life, 75% said a billion dollars. Whoa, man, 75. That's fine. That's fine. But that's why I said, God coming down and he's going to say, this is your true happiness. I said, then that's another conversation. But if I'm still have problems, because I tell you, every time we have problems, we

already know it's going to happen. I'm going to wish I took the billion dollars. But I'm asking God a question. But you get it. But you get it. Every time you got a problem, you make it funny. Every time you got a problem, it's another 10 million. I don't really like that. But I'm asking God a question. But you get it. But you get it. Every time you got a problem, you make it funny. Every time you got a problem,

it's another 10 million. I don't really like that. We have to ask God questions. We have to ask God questions. All right. We have to ask him. Are you sure? We have to ask him. Are you sure?

How long is this supposed to last? Like, in truth, like, let's say... Right, we'll be like, this is your soulmate for three years. Man, I got... No, that's what I... This is my soul...

This is my soul... Or you got to fire me. And I live forever. No, that's right. This is my soul person. And I live forever. Like, we live forever, just happy forever. Or a billion dollars and you die in, let's say, 50 years. I might take the person. Nah, I gotta ask God. But if I still have...

You don't have money, though. But if I still have relationship problems, who's this bitch and all that shit? Oh, no. I'm cool bitch and all that shit? Oh, no, give me the bop I'm cool in 50 years. Okay, but cuz 50 years I don't got an answer to nothing Go ahead. Listen God What is it that this thing you say if we love each other like how much love are we talking here like Pure love everything like like love you ain't got a word like what is it

like what is floating happy no flow nah we don't give you the ultimate happiness and you live forever but never ever happy yeah like wake up smile you wake up smash you got bread that ain't got nothing to do with her. And you got bread, though. It ain't got nothing to do with her. Yes, her, too. Is she waking me up? Yes. Everything you dream of.

All right, all right. All right, all right. All right. Everything you dream of is just pure happiness, no sad days forever, or you're a billion dollars and you live life. That means she getting other girls and all kinds of things. Whatever you want. Whatever I want. Woo!

Woo! Woo! One zone? Forever? Forever for life. You're not going to be broke. You're not marrying a dummy. She's delusional.

She's delusional. She's delusional. Yes, delusional. Whatever you want, that's what it is. You're just not rich yet. She's delusional. You're not rich yet. She's delusional. But you're not marrying a dummy. Yes, delusional. She's delusional. Whatever you want, that's what it is. Yeah. You're just not a billionaire. And she ain't on that.

Not yet. You broke the protein on none of that. None of that. That means she's a white girl. It don't matter. Let's keep this thing moving. Where is this thing? Wrap it up.

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You hear it sizzle? Sizzling. All right, well, let's get into it. After being named Western Conference Player of the Week last week, Asia Wilson continued to dominate on Tuesday night in the Aces win over the Sky. Wilson finished the game

with 30 points, 14 rebounds, two steals, three blocks. It's her eighth game this season with 30 plus points and 10 plus rebounds.

So Asia's averaging 27.5 points, 12 rebounds, 2.4 assists, two steals, and nearly three blocks this season. Wow.

She's on pace to average the most points per game in WNBA history, is averaging the second most rebounds per game in league history behind Angel Reese, and is leading the league in blocks per game. She can win both. In steals per game.

She can win both. Is Asia Wilson on pace for the greatest WNBA season ever? Oh, yeah, for sure. From an individual standpoint? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Does she already have it? What? Is this the best?

What makes it, what would be better than this season for anybody? I don't know what the highest scoring average was. So she's on pace to set the record for points per game, and I think, like, close to two to three points above the previous record. Oh, hell yeah. It's over with. So she has that. Yeah.

Now. It'll be the first thousand point season, right? First thousand points, but with 40 game season, so we gotta just acknowledge that league shift from 34 to 40.

Oh, okay. So we have more games. So we've seen that explosion. Well, it all depends on how many points she scores anyway. Yeah.

So the six games, you can just minus the 27 to see if she still breaks the thousand. But the 27.5 points per game would be the highest league average ever. Obviously, like I said, Andrew Reese averaging like 13 rebounds a game. Yeah. Aja's averaging 12.

If Andrew Reese was still in college, that would be the highest rebounds per game in WNBA history. Jesus. Yeah. Across the board. Doing it on both sides of the court. And showing up to work in pro club. I mean, she's, I mean, listen, she's...

I can't say if she should have been an MVP, but, you know, she's basically came back this season on the vengeance, and we've seen it. She's dominating at that position. Also has the higher player efficiency rating currently in league history. Yeah. That position, they're going to have to... Off position, they're going to have to...

Off-season, they're going to have to tweak some things if they need to catch up to Asia. Because she's playing like... That back-to-the-basket stuff is over now for her. So if anybody wants to catch up or compete with her at that position, they're going to have to get out of that. Back-to-the-old, back-to-the-basket.

Yeah. But, I mean, for me, selfishly, I don't want to play like... I don't like playing like that. Just throwing it in, throwing it in, throwing it in. You don't like that? No. Why? It's slow. This is how we get our shots. Sometimes you got to wait for them to pass it back out,

but goddamn... No. That's a lot of ways we get our shit. Well, yeah, if you have a person that can pass from down there. And not all the teams have that. It's just score, score, which is fine, but you're not going to win that many games anymore with the way players are scoring and the three-pointers that are going up now.

Which, again, I love. So she went in defensive player of the year and MVP? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I love a year just so great year remark in my year They still got a chance to win a championship. That's what you're seven at the top, but they can still definitely go and win Yeah, they MVP and he's only 21 what you call Hooper Yep Yeah, they... Wait, so she got MVP and... She's only 21. What you call her, Hooper? Yep.

Only 28. Seven seasons. Just scratching the surface. She's 28, seven seasons. So yeah, she's a vet. She's an ultra vet right now. No. We're in year seven.

Just turned 28, August 8th. She's in year... We're in year seven. WNBA, she's a WNBA vet. Nah. She's a regular vet. A baby vet. She's a regular.

A baby vet. She's a baby vet. So you look at, like, seven years in, where'd she go to college? South Carolina. South Carolina. She got a statue. And if you did witness a player of the year... Already?

Her third straight defense a player of the year. I touched it, like, two years ago. Damn. Doing work. She's a... Signature shoe on the way. Signature shoe, yeah. If she's been going in this direction,

there's no reason why she shouldn't keep going in that direction. Nobody's to stop her. I think the only two that could potentially give her some problems are Cardosa and Angel. They're the only ones that really can. And did she let their ass up last night? They're too slow. But they played good against her the first game. They neutralized her.

And they showed what you can do to bother her a lot, which is the size. But just them two against her. Oh, yeah. dim two against her. Oh, yeah. It's dim two, like... Like the twin towers. Yeah, twin towers. That's the only thing that had a chance against her, and she killed him last night, so...

On pace to become the first player in WNBA history, too, with three straight Defensive Player of the Year awards, so... Yeah. That's for me, too. We talk about overall. She's dominant. I mean, she's dominant. She's dominant.

It ain't just cooking on the offensive end. It's locking up, steals, buckets, and pro clubs. What's their record? So we're going to get to that, and that was the thing. So last season, Aces set a WNBA record with 34 wins. Obviously, it was a 40-game season, so we've got to keep that in mind. 1998 Comets still have the best win percentage. They went 27-3, so 90% win percentage.

Aces are currently 21-12, fourth in the WNBA, three games behind the Lynx for the top spot in the West. They could still get up there. But how much do the Aces' team struggles impact Asia Wilson's individual domination this season? Zero. That's what I was... If anything...

What was her numbers like last year? Not like that. If anything, it... What was her numbers like last year? Not like that. If anything it boosts up her case for MVP. Last year she averaged 23, 23.10 rebounds. So production was down last year and they wanted a higher clip. Her production wasn't down. Compared to this year?

I mean yeah, but you wouldn't say that it's down. I would. She's like consistently increased her production every year. If her production goes up and the team starts losing at a certain level, that means that the other pieces aren't performing. Well, Chelsea Gray was out for a bit of a reason. Chelsea Gray started, they started 6-6 without Chelsea Gray. Their point guard was out.

But even me looking at Chelsea's stats for the last three games, like, she's not playing well at all. Chelsea? She has no rhythm. And then you deal, depending on Kelsey to be the other, like the second tier score, Jackie is between them two and her. So it's like you're trying to pick your poison, but... What did Chelsea hurt?

I think it was her knees. Ankle, knee, I don't know. She hurt in the finals last year, so she didn't play the end of the... So did she have surgery this summer? I think so. I'm not sure. But she was hurt for a while. Yeah.

Because even like watching her during the Olympics, it just seems like she's not herself yet. Right? And she's struggled with injuries like her whole career. She had a left foot injury. She's like, I mean, I think the last two years, I think she's been like the key. Lower leg. She's been having lower leg problems. Oh,, it's college. Yeah, so make sense. So the two MVPs that Asia got They had winning winning records and they won the championship, right?

No, she doing the MVP last year for the year before that they won and she won it. Yeah. All right so now if they don't get to the championship or win it all what does it say about these numbers do you still just say oh this is a historic season brush over the fact that she didn't do what she was doing prior to but she she could if they don't win three in a row what i'm saying is she couldn't average 22 22 23 and 10 because there's a whole entity that's missing so someone had to double their production right like one one whole person is gone so she had to up her production so it's not like chelsea's been playing how she's been

playing for the last two years because if she has been playing the team has been better then she wouldn't be averaging 27. yeah she averaged 31 31 minutes a game in 2023. She's averaging 34.3 minutes a game. Yeah, she's been asked to do more. Compared last year and this year. And the other teams ahead of them have gotten better, too. Yeah, but I just don't see that much of a drastic dip off from the team performance in comparison to her increasing her individual performance. There shouldn't be no losing aspect to that. So Chelsea Gray, 20-23, 32.2 minutes a game,

averaged 15 points, four rebounds, 7.3 assists. This season, played 21 games, started 19 of them, averaging 25.2 minutes per game. She's averaging eight points, three rebounds, five assists. It's a big difference. She facilitates that entire team. Kate, who's next up? Is Kate Martin probably next up? Six men? No. That's playing big difference. She facilitates that entire team. Kate, who's next up is Kate Martin probably next up?

Six men? No. That's playing opposite of Chelsea? No. Oh, opposite of Chelsea? Yeah, like the backup. Plum. Plum. Kate Martin doesn't play.

What are you talking about? So who's the six men? They don't have one. That's the point. You would have to have one. If you got 12 people in the court, you're going to put... Tiffany Hayesiffany they don't have a they don't have they don't have they don't have a backup one that does what chelsea does so i guess they bring in probably with a two tiffany tiffany hayes will come in plumb slides to the one yeah whoever or jackie slides to whoever's coming in

their production is going to have to be next up to what chelsea was doing if it ain't eight it gotta be ten they don't have that they don't have that tiffany hayes comes in and scores points get is going to have to be next up to what Chelsea was doing. If it ain't eight, it got to be 10. They don't have that person. No, Tiffany Hayes comes in and scores points. Gets the buckets. She gets buckets. She's in there to score. We was out in Vegas in summer league.

So, like I said, the other teams have gotten better. If she can keep it up and they can keep winning, it's cool. But if they keep losing it and then you're just putting up numbers. So my question is, does she need that championship to solidify this as the greatest individual season? So you think even without it... She's gonna have the greatest season.

But if she does get it, then I think that's... Cherry on top. I think what ends up happening is, once the playoffs kick in, they're that type of team, they've won, they've done it before, right? It really depends on who they match up with, because there's a few teams in the bottom half of the set I don't want to I wouldn't want to see first round. Well, you think anybody you think seven see you want to see them whoever that is

Who's the seven seed right now give me one second yeah, Indiana's six so seven see right now is the mercury to see Vegas I Don't know Asia lit they eyes up the other day, so. But let's talk about another one of those teams that's climbing up the charts. Kaitlyn Clark, Angel Reese, met for the fourth and final time this season in Chicago last weekend.

It was Barbie Knight, in honor of Reese, who pulled up to the game in a Dennis Rodman Pistons jersey. But Kaitlyn Clark stole the show, dropping a career-high 31 points, including five threes, along with 12 dimes and four rebounds in the win. So Clark is a first player, W.A. history with 30 points, 12 assists, and five made threes in the game.

And as she left the court, Clark was given a standing ovation by fans in the Sky's Arena. Many of them wearing her jersey. So Clark followed up that performance by dropping 28 points and 12 dimes on the Dallas Wings. Whooping. It was her WNBA record sixth game with 20 points and 10 assists and 12th double-double, the WNBA record for a guard. But we also got to show some love to Clark's backcourt mate Kelsey Mitchell. Mitchell's in the midst of a franchise record streak of seven straight 20-point games,

including 36 in the win against the Wings Sunday. So the Fever are 6-1. Post-Olympic break, have won four straight games. 17 wins this season. It's tied for the most since 2016. On pace for their first winning season since 2015. And on Tuesday night, clinched the first playoff berth since 20 Like I said currently sixth in WMA standings. It was in the gym

Yeah, so there's been a lot of discussion about fever We're in the gym the rookie of the year race and all that stuff But did Caitlin Clark lock up the rookie of the year with her performance and the fevers win over the sky? I'm I think she had locked it up before that game. But yeah, did that put the exclamation point? Well, people are putting her in MVP combos now, so it's like you can't really backpedal from that. Yeah. And given her recent stretch of play

and obviously the fever of performing at the level of her ass six at once since the Olympic break, would you agree with people? Obviously, we think Asia is going to win it, but do you agree with people putting Kayla Clark in that race? And do you think she has the opportunity or potential to make an all-WNBA team this season? Oh, for sure, she can.

What she's done with that team, I mean, she was like the missing piece. I mean, I tried to tell you, Fever, they were not a bad team. They were like a piece away. A lot of teams are like a piece away, and that's when a player goes down, like a Chelsea Gray, for example, that's a very important piece.

You're a piece away from being a really excellent team. So I knew Kelsey Mitchell was going to have a great season playing with someone like Kaitlyn. She didn't start the season healthy, so Kaitlyn kind of was out there doing it on her own, and she was figuring it out, and then you throw Kelsey in the mix, and, like, those two are just dangerous in the backcourt. Rashad, see you over there. Had to tilt it down a little bit. You've been very active on social media. like Rashad see you over there uh had tilted down

a little bit been very active on social media in the running to be leader of the Kalen Clark fan club leader is it obvious

Shasha Thomas is it obvious Shasha Thomas I've been fighting my whole life for this shit fighting for what my moment

moment for what oh shit you know what I'm saying like what moment she's my Forrest Gump that's what moment Fighting for what? My moment. Moment for what? Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, what moment? She's my Forrest Gump. That's what moment. What does that mean? Run, Forrest, run.

She's running from y'all out there. She's trying to get loose. She loose. She loose now. She's loose. Because she had to go back home. Her and her dad had to go, let's look at this fucking footage. Let's look at this footage.

Let's figure out what these girls are doing that's pissing you off so much where you ain't focused focus she went back refocused that's why i love their whole family dynamic they really locked in on some other on some kairi and his dad on some jalen brunson and his dad they really go in there and they lock in and she the biggest thing for me is her not even responding to all the bullshit that's going on. She's not responding. That's a true professional. As a rookie, she's being mentioned in all of these different names and these conversations. And she ain't said a fucking thing, but bigged up the whole league and everybody she's admired. And I think that's commendable. I think she's a unicorn. She's doing everything I thought she was going to do and more,

like win the MVP. That's not going to happen this year, but it could happen very soon. It's great for the conversation. I mean, for the W itself. Putting her in the conversation is absolutely, it doesn't hurt. That's not bad at all. They put her on the Olympic team and then she'd have gotten the game and helped them win some games. See what kind of shit they'd have took away from the girl? I mean, what's so funny is that- They took away from a part of the legacy could never be mimicked again. She's never gonna be a rookie again.

Here's my question for you though, Shot. If they did put her on the Olympic team, she went over there, would the Fever still be playing as they are now? Yes. No. No, hell no. Absolutely not. We should be even more tired.

No, no, no. I think she would have more respect around her peers. They're respectful. No, what they did, no, she, you know, she was one of the only ones that didn't show up to the Olympics.

Right? Her and her team was practicing. Practicing in the gym. So you remember, they got to practice. They got to train and really, like, dial it in.

You know, because, you know, when you're playing, your season is short. Yeah. Right? And, you know, it's like training camp and you're going,

you don't really know each other. You don't really know any plays. So this little week, two weeks that they had together, it was like a second training camp for them. Yeah, I remember the year we won. We was locked in that damn gym during Olympic break. It made a difference. That's cool, though.

It don't take away from the fact that I'm supposed to be on the Olympic team. Why are you still even talking about that? And that's supposed to be a credit for me. That's supposed to be my name on that roster. And then I'm supposed to continue that run, historic from beginning to the middle. Now we're going into this, I'm averaging 20 what? 28 a game for the last six games, seven games?

She probably would have been burnt out. Man, hell no. No, she's a hooper. I don't think it would have been good for her. I mean, her team wouldn't have meshed. We got to sit here for two weeks learning these plays, learning this is what I like to do, this is what you like to do. They came out.

They're a different team. They came out just a different team. They look different. We should blame Asia going and playing in the Olympics and Kelsey and the other... No, they're two-time champs. But they should... They've now been losing since they came back, right?

They should have took the time off, right? No, I'm saying it's two times champ. Who's been losing? We know each other. That's who I think they're with. So why would y'all be losing? What's the problem? Y'all all went to the Olympics and now y'all losing now.

Y'all burnt out? Y'all should have let this young girl go over there and play. I just don't think there's a correlation. But she would because she's a rookie. She's a rookie. Let these young motherfuckers play. Caitlin Clark is a superhero. There is no fucking tired.

She's fucking Jean Grace. I hear you. They're not listening, though. I hear you. They don't be fucking listening. They watching this shit. In real time, we watching greatness in real time. Just like they be saying about Brian.

Oh, you just appreciate Brian. We watching it in real time. We watching Caitlyn in real time. What the fuck is so hard to appreciate? He never seen nothing like this is Steph Curry Steve Nash mixed together. I'm doing crazy shit. Yeah, what I mean I think there are a lot of people appreciating there is obviously you get a standing evasion on the road. Yeah crazy It was hate donor though It was a It's not it's not a day

People in the WBA was hating on there when she first got in not people Players right women in the WNBA. Yeah, they was hating on her They was throwing some shots. I was like damn, I'm gonna gonna keep I mean you're gonna throw shot people throw shots at LeBron today Yeah, I mean, I mean it's just shots. People throw shots at LeBron today. Yeah, what are we fucking talking about? I mean, it is what it is. It's competition. How many players that are playing that are doing it? Still. Yeah, what do you mean?

Can't name them. Refs, coaches. You're not going to name a player in the league that was talking crazy about LeBron except for one Dylan Brooks. Okay, but you all over there still. Dylan never said anything bad about LeBron. It happens in the NBA all the time. He never said anything in the NBA. Okay, but you all over there stealing that shit don't happen in the NBA. It happens in the NBA all the time. He never said anything

bad about him. We, outside of the sport, we talk crazy about them niggas, but niggas is playing? We ain't never seen the shit that is going on in the middle of a press conference just talking crazy

about a bitch. Listen, I mean, everybody's a joke. I think as of right now from how it started, how the WNBA season started, to now, they've adjusted better than I as I thought they were

to be honest I thought a lot of motherfucker I thought a lot of analysts would have been fired why because how we talk about the men's game and Then use that same energy and sound bite it towards the women's game and then get hit with all kind of yeah It's a crazy sound sound crazy as fuck and I thought a lot of people would have got fired I mean you got Pat McAfee where he's not allowed to talk about it anymore. Wait, I mean you see what he said No, what do you mean talking about how y'all talk about? Like how we talk about the game. The energy. We don't have any blurred lines when we talk about the men's sport.

I know, but give me, like, I'm not understanding. Like, give me an example. Well, he. What do y'all say about, like, the men's game? Like, you don't have to say. You can call a dude out of his name. Yeah. Like, just watching't have to say... Like, we didn't call him a... We didn't call... You didn't call a dude out of his name. Yeah, when Pat... Like, just watching the game or whatever,

but just how we... How we critique the man's game, trying to critique the woman's game, it seems like... We have to be respectful. We have to put on a filter. It's hard to be... We have to put on a filter.

It's hard to be respectful. Yes. Okay. That's what y'all... 1,000%. That's what y'all's problem. Yeah, that's what I said. I don't got shit to do with us. No Okay. That's what y'all... One thousand percent. That's what y'all...

That's what y'all's problem. Yeah, that's what I said. I don't got shit to do with us. No, but that's what I said. Analyst... Oh, it does, because you want to be... You want it to be equal, but we still have to toe the line. You can still be equal, but be respectful.

Why can't you talk about basketball? But that's not... It's not... But it's not equality if we... But what... I'm just trying to think of words that are so hard about... I can be disrespectful to him in whatever manner, and he's going to be like, yeah, whatever. I can be disrespectful back.

I can't be disrespectful to you without crossing the line completely. Now, here's an example. And it just happened in real time, right? One of our own. Cheryl. You know how you read something, right? When you're reading it, whatever, we just sitting here. She did the same thing.

They used that silence against her, right? All of the people that's complaining do the same thing to the players they don't like. We're not saying she don't like, you know, Kaylin, right? That was part of the you're talking i'm sitting boom but if skip bayless if they're talking big enough lebron and he don't say nothing no one says nothing no one cares right most of those guys they hate a player they get to be silent they get to say whatever the fuck they want to say about these players and there's no problem.

But now on the other side... But I feel like the women covering women's sports get it worse than... Y'all pretty much say whatever y'all want, and it's fine. But if a woman analyst covering women's basketball says something, it's immediately hate. From men? No, that's today. That's now.

And that's why I said I thought a lot of analysts would be fired because a new entity came into the league and new eyes came into the league, and it's not the same. And unless you're sitting there watching the train, that train could have ran you over. You have to treat Caitlyn's fan base like Beyonce the beehive And in the Nate internet you yeah

You have to really treat them like that because it's its own entity and if you not strong enough To fight with the fight with it you gonna get a little fuck alone. Yes, right? Yeah, like so did end up what ends up happening now? You're stuck in between this to sword like Cheryl even though that wasn't on intentional and that the thing is alone. Yes. Yeah. I agree with that. So then end up what ends up happening. Now you're stuck in between this two sword, like Cheryl, even though that wasn't intentional. And that thing is, you don't want to say nothing wrong, right? So you just shut the fuck up. Oh, they filmed that.

Yeah. You didn't. And even if you say, good shit, and then you did something like, oh, you adjusted too hard. It's an entity you have to worry about. Same thing with Reese. She has a fan base. It's just a whole different ballgame now, and it is a tiptoeing because it's yours. I feel like you can cover the game and uplift both players.

It's hard because your game was done by females, right? Now you have ignorance coming in. You have ignorance coming in and we can say we're ignorant, right? We don't know how to blend the difference between this. Y'all empowered the other ignorance. And that's all it is. It's just ignorant. And that's fine, but like it doesn't fix. Like him watching the game. Hold on, hold on.

What? Y'all having your own conversation right now. First of all, if there was a microphone on you two, all of us during the game. During the Sparks fever game. To us, that's regular-ass fan conversation and talking.

That's canceled. How? We talking who? No, no, no. And we not crossing the line. I remember the game. We not crossing the line. We not crossing the line.

We saying shit they not used to hearing. Again. I feel like that's how we should be talking about women's basketball. Talk hoop. Like, why is that so problematic? Talk hoop. Well, because y'all entity is under the corporate.

What we're doing now is we're freestyling amongst how we actually look at beauty games. Right, but I still feel like you could talk hoop and be respectful. Yeah, but you're still under, your organization is still under. Y'all can't even talk hoop outside of your Instagram. Facts. Right? So think about it. Y'all can't really do what y'all want to do because y'all are still family friendly.

And that becomes the thing. The NBA and other sports are not family friendly. You guys are. So when you have all these other personalities coming in, we don't understand your rules yet. Right. And that becomes a problem. So we have to dial back our conversation. I feel like meeting in the middle is the thing. And that's the thing. And that's why I said for the most part, I'm happy with how the W has approached because it could have been a lot of victims to how we've approached the sport.

I mean, it's gotten out of hand in certain instances. Alexa, you talk about being respectful, but... Certain instances, but I'm not on Twitter anymore, so I don't know. You talk about being respectful, but the NBA discourse is toxic as hell. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, but it only exists on one place.

Yeah. And people are not... I'm just being, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, but it only exists on one place. Yeah. And that place has gone to shit in the past couple years. And people are not making real decisions based on Twitter discourse. Yeah. And I think that's where the league needs to grow. Players, organizations, like, whatever they're talking about now should not affect how we conduct ourselves as professionals. Like, we've surpassed, like, we shouldn't have been doing that anyway,

but I think the league has reached another level, finally, where you gotta leave that shit where it is. And it's just... And we talked about this before this, with the increased fandom, obviously it's gonna come down. Yeah, conversations about dumb shit, like... But, I mean, go, every time LeBron tweets,

hey, you know, my school did something good, just look at the comments. Exactly. Every time KD says it, just look at the comments. Exactly. It's disgusting. It's nasty. You know where I was like, okay. We're the real ring. When I seen the W really like,

okay, they've adjusted to social media. Was it Olympics when someone was, I think it was Asia Wilson who said, she's that bitch? Yep, on TV. was, was it Asia Wilson who said, she's that bitch? Yep, on TV.

Who said that? Asia, about Kalia. In the Olympics? Yep, on TV. On TV, and no one said nothing. I was like, okay, okay, okay, we're allowed to say that. I know we're not, but it's, you're opening up the line. You're moving the line a little box

You're giving us out of the box. Yeah, you're you're you're finally stepping out of the box because that's a real reaction And I was like, I hope you don't find that's real emotions. You can't she won. She did that you can't Try to reel that in reel that in I think those days are over Lexi a question for you Do you feel like there was a level of resentment for Kaitlyn Clark when she came in as an unproven rookie, which is kind of the hype in her stare around her, and has that shifted or changed at all

now that she's proved herself? Same with Angel as well. I don't think resentment is the word. I think we had never been, like, just asked about somebody. I mean, that's the most of the conversations came from people were asking us questions about these players so obviously i didn't feel no resentment i knew that she was going to be great in the w it was just a matter of when she was going to be great um resentment i don't know i just don't like that narrative that was thrown

on the entire league from the beginning of the year and i'm not saying the whole league but no but that's kind of what was going on. But what I've been proud of our league is all the other players that have elevated their game. And I know a lot of players are getting a lot of recognition that they've needed and deserved for their play, that they've been consistent over

the years. So, I mean, I always say I'm grateful for this rookie class. You know, we have two amazing rookies on our team that have brought a lot of eyes to the Sparks. You know, despite us having a tough year. You know, we have a lot of fans at our games. We have two amazing rookies on our team that have brought a lot of eyes to the Sparks. Despite us having a tough year, we have a lot of fans at our games. We have a lot of supporters of our team. And I do want to shout out Rekia, who I think if we were winning some more games would absolutely be

in the conversation for Rookie of the Year. She's been playing her ass off. I was just talking to Cam the other day and she was just like, you know, sometimes I just feel like bad. All this stuff that has come with this rookie class. And I told her, I said, do not just talking to Cam the other day, and she was just like, you know, sometimes I just feel, like, bad, you know? All this stuff that has come with this rookie class. And I told her, I said, do not feel bad, Cam. Like, what you guys have done for this league has been incredible. Let me ask you a question.

What other word would you use besides resentment? Resentment? I can't speak for everybody, so... I know. I'm just asking what other word... I'm not going to put a nothing on anybody. Another word? She said resentment is a strong word to use as Scribing how people felt about it. So what's another word? I use if that's too strong because there is a word that should be used we should figure out what that word is whether it's as

Aggressive or as slight as possible, but did something happen when she came in. No, I can see. Before she came in. Yeah, something happened. There was the energy that had to turn. I can see what you're saying because if it was in the NBA, it would be the same reaction. But you wasn't talking like that earlier.

No, because I'm... In the beginning of the year with the WNBA, you was off all these women in the WNBA. Yeah, but She just explained something. That's why I said, now that what you're saying, we're playing two teams and our reporters

is coming asking about a whole other entity that has nothing to do with us. We're not playing her. Hey, what do you think about Kaitlyn Clark? What the fuck do I want to talk about Kaitlyn Clark? Ask about me. Ask about my... Niggas would do that in the NBA. What are you think about Caitlin Clark? What the fuck do I want to talk about cutting Kurt? Ask about me ask about my dick niggas would do that in the NBA. Yeah, what are you talking about? Not true? So not an apples to apples comparison, but we want to compare Kayla coming into the league

her rookie season with LeBron coming in his rookie season. You were in the league at that point. Obviously, LeBron had a lot of hype, a lot of fanfare surrounding him, unproven at that point. What was the discussion about LeBron in terms of other players and how they viewed him? When we were playing against him,

there was questions. But when you asked in three weeks before, yeah, you guys about to play against LeBron. LeBron had 20 tonight. And, like, what the fuck are you asking me about him for? Because that's who you're going against. We don't play them for fucking a month. The fuck are you asking me about LeBron James?

Ask me about motherfucking Reuben Patterson. That's who we're playing tonight. Strip him, bro. Because that's not going to happen. You know, man, you know. He's the draw. LeBron is the draw, and he's coming in as a draw. I's what we're playing tonight. And that's what happened. You know that he's the draw. LeBron is the draw and he's coming in as a draw.

He's not coming in today. But we saw that with Cavs. We're playing him a month from now. We have a team we're playing against. But we're showing LeBron James commercials all week. We know we got to ask you. And that's why niggas was getting that backlash too. Because you're asking about a dude who's not even coming.

We don't play them yet. So what? We saw that. When I said this shit about Dwayne. He's in the league. But you're asking. You guys are not in the league. So you're having a conversation that's not even.

When I had those conversations. We still don't comment on it because he's the guy. We had conversations about Dwayne Wade. I made that comment. As a hater. We're not playing him. He is not even on our schedule yet. Someone coming to us, what do you think about Dwyane Wade?

But you just said, you just made that comment as a what? A hater. I became a hater. But nobody in the W made comments like that. Because you're asking a question. Nobody in the W made comments like that. But you're asking a question about a dude who's not here. Is what I'm saying.

They're asking me about, we're playing a game against somebody else. You're asking about Dwayne Wade. The fuck are you asking about the Mike? Please don't ask me no questions about Kayla and Clark. Hater. Anybody who said that, right? Yeah. But that happened.

We've heard that. We've heard that. But that happened after the game. Yeah, we've heard it. After they played each other. We've seen people tweet, oh, the game is bigger than this and this and this, and we draw people too.

Bro, all that shit, it ain't resentment, it's a word. It's a hater. Wait, what tweet are you talking about? It's just tweets out there. What tweet are you talking about? Because I know whatever tweet you're talking about, what I think you are talking about, has nothing to do with Kaitlyn Clark.

Whatever has something to do with flights and people coming to the games. It was, oh, yeah, we ain't the only ones getting chartered flights. It had everything to do with the person who actually ushered in the shit. So you're taking the shot. Like even with the Sheryl Swoops.

I really thought that was the game. It was their game. Like they probably were saying, she got all this flack was their game. Like they brought us in. She got all this flack on a game that she wasn't even in. That becomes a problem. The issue is, too, it was Nafisa Collier and Kaylin Clark are both got players of the week. The announcer talked about both of them.

And I could see if it was one thing if she was just big up in Collier and didn't mention Kaylin Clark. She didn't talk about either one of them. And I haven't seen any Nafisa Collier fan coming in saying, oh, you hating? That's a part of broadcasting. Somebody said she was silent for 50 seconds. I'm in my head counting like, where's

this 50 seconds? The way that it was presented versus the reality of what it was. Because you hear, oh, she didn't say nothing for 50 seconds. But let's be real, bro. This is the reason why it was magnified is because of the history of her comments prior to. So now we're magnifying this moment because it's a moment for you to big up a player

that we don't know or don't think that you like. So here's an opportunity. But let's talk about that, too. And she passed on that opportunity. Let's talk about that, too. It looks crazy. She was on this couch. She had a bunch of stuff.

She was corrected during that show, given the appropriate information. When that clip goes out to the universe, that part is cut off. Yeah. That part's not included in what's being disseminated to masses. So they're taking that one snippet. We had that conversation on the couch.

First of all, you're pushing the narrative on how you want it, but that's social media. And that's why you get off of it. Yes. Or you just stay on it. Just stay on it and be mad. Just be tough. And don't find that intelligence that Brandon was talking about an hour ago. Yes. Or you just stay on it and hurry on it. Just stay on it and be mad. Just be tough.

And don't find that intelligence that Brandon was talking about an hour ago. Just be tough. Like, I mean, I like, I get it from where you're sitting from and from the outside we're looking in, it does, right? Because everything that's happening, like, when, um, who went and sped up the chucker? Uh, Skylar. When you see Skylar, like, you see it, but at the end of the day, man,

basketball is basketball. She's not affected. She's not playing the victim to it, so it is what it is. Next year is going to be back normal. This is a rookie season, and her fan base is protecting her. That's it.

You can't do nothing about her fan base. She don't have to say, this is the thing. We didn't call her professional. She don't have to say nothing. She's playing her ass off. She has this and I think the WNBA girls now do probably respect her. Because she's playing. She's not

playing victim. She's talking her shit. She's whooping ass doing this at the point it's like, okay, she's earned her respect. You have to earn that though, right? You don't just walk in day one, hey. Like LeBron earned his early. First game, damn, 25-5. Oh shit. Here he come. You do have to earn.

Yeah, you got... Come on, think about it, dog. LeBron got a million dollars, a hundred million dollars. You know how mad these motherfuckers was in the NBA He was one he got a hundred million dollars show my track about didn't touch the ball so Niggas are taking cheap shots. They didn't realize how big he was They just they didn't realize he was this big that was the problem, right?

And he came in and he's dunking on everybody he's doing's doing, and it's like, okay, he legit is going in. All right. All right. He legit. All right. Same thing with Wimby. You know, he's going to get the sit. Also, there's been other rookies that come to the W

that have had rookie treatment. Y'all just wasn't watching. That's true. He wasn't watching. And I think people, you talk about the physicality of the league. It's a physical league, right? Yeah. But now, all of a sudden, people think there's not a problem. Yeah, my ass worked in training camp. Like, what are you talk about the physicality of the league is a physical league, right? But now all of a sudden people think there's my ass training camp

Y'all look like y'all get fine $3 for the clothesline. Did you did the file, the last file Kaitlyn got? Yeah, with the bump? The bump. Did you see that? Mm-hmm. You didn't see it? You seen it? No. So, I guess they haven't seen the shot. I'm gonna ask you.

You seen it, right? The shields? Would you get up and do something if somebody hit you like that? Rashad, you know I'm a man of peace and tranquility. Come on, bro. Don't do that. But I have to get into some fisticuffs. I think that Barry's person to person reaction, not everybody. She got hit, bumped down, and fell? She threw a pitch ahead to her.

She thought she was by herself. Girl came in and just choked her. Bam. And you can't do Yellowstone like that. That's crazy. Hey, bam. But this is. She's like, oh, get up and fly, man.

But this is after the third. I don't know what her hands look like. This is the third time, though. But this is... She's like, I'm going to get up in front. But look. But this is after the third... I don't know what her hands look like. This is the third time, though. This is the third play back-to-back. This is the third play back-to-back. Do we know if Taylor Clark has hands or not? We don't.

That's what I'm saying. So if I don't have hands, I'm not good. I bet you see a whole black belt in karate or something. What do you do? You got a jumper. I won't put it past her

because I can tell you one thing. She's an antagonizer to her damn self. It's not like she's just like a... When you good, you antagonize any motherfucker who can't fuck with you. She probably got some hands. When you that good, nigga, you like... She probably got...

Babe, we don't have hands, so it just depends. So if I'm playing against Kenyon and he does it, I'll probably apologize to him. I'll forget it anyway. I got cops in the stands. I got cops in the stands. I don't need hands. But that's what I'm saying.

We're trying... I got cops. I think the problem is the fans are trying to protect somebody who don't need your protection. Right? She actually...

She's averaged 34 years straight in college. I'm pretty sure she's done... Took every cheap shot known to woman. And don't phase her. She's a score.

Right? The first person you try to take out is the score. If you're the Right? The first person you try to take out is the score. If you're the other opponent, you want to try to rough her. If I can fuck her mind up, it kind of fucks everybody else up. So she has to mentally be

the strongest on the court. Just like A.I. When A.I. come here, we're going to knock his ass down. He's the mentally, he's the strongest. That sounds so amazing to hear you talk about a rookie like that. What's wrong with it? That sounds so amazing to hear you talk about a rookie like that. Mm. What's wrong with you? Mm.

Got to be mentally strong. Yeah, you do. OK. Big ups to her pops. Keeping her in check. Yeah, the Yellowstone family cool as a motherfucker, man. Yeah, man. And we got some breaking news.

Kalen Clark just became the first rookie in WWE history to be named Player of the Month. Was also Rookie of the Month, of course. You want to get canceled? I'm waiting on you! I'm waiting on you! Hey, CC, do that! I'm waiting on you! You didn't respond. It was a half a second.

It was two seconds of dead air, Gil! Hey, Shel, we got you, girl! Two seconds of dead air, Gil! Shel, Cheryl, we got you, girl. Two seconds of dead air, Gil. Cheryl, text me. Two for her. Woo, woo. Oh, shit, it broke. Damn, Cheryl. Too much. She's gassed out.

Blow for Cheryl. Blow one for Cheryl. That's fire for her. Secretive, Gil. That's a team I don't want to see first round of playoffs. And that's the next point. They've clinched their first playoff berth since 2016. 6C right now. What year? 2016.

2016. That's a long, slow time. Long time to be right around the corner from being good. Get it on. So what's the... It's a long time. I'm just saying, a long time. There's only 12 teams.

From being right around the corner... There's only 12 teams. From being good. Okay, now... You're right around the corner. There's only 12 teams. From being good. Okay, now. You're right around the corner. You ain't played in a playoff since 2016. That's crazy. I'm going to tell you a team that is reminding me how the Lakers was built in the 80s and San Antonio was built. Where is Chicago at?

I believe they are in the eighth spot right now, but let me double check. Eight out of 12. They're tied for eighth. They're tied for eighth, right? With the dream. Is there any way they can get the number one or two pick? I think they might have traded

their pick. I don't know. Imagine a team like that. They bottom out and they end up getting page They won't with them two towers. They they had With Kennedy, that's a whole nother beast of a team right and you just inherit like Cuz they're they're one piece away like these two Pick swap with the, I believe, the Wings. Okay. The Wings can swap with them, whatever it is.

If they want to, even if they got to. What do they have? I don't know. Whatever Chicago did, they was messing some shit up over there. Okay, because, I mean, you got two twin towers in. Once those two have to figure out how to be dominant together, it's hard to get what they have. then you have a guard that your score, huh? Yeah

So they're they're right around the corner. They can They can be champs in three years Just because depending on personnel because the Yep, I was just I was just wondering because it reminds me of like this guy you have rookie of the year last year on the team And then Mitchell, right? She's good. She's gonna be a free agent. Rocking a zero.

They seem like the same teams to me. It's just straight off. Kennedy and Mitchell X out Leah and Angel, X out. Then you got just Cordosa and Clark, and you just got one player that's just extremely better than the rest of them. You don't know nothing about the W. It's always easier like that.

Everybody else is like, all right, what's going on over here? It's the two teams with three-headed monsters. Who's better? Who's better? This team is better. Fever's better. Way better. But on paper, they Fever's better. Way better. But on paper, they're like right there.

No, they're not equal. Why not? What do you mean? They shoot no threes. Yeah, Chicago don't have an identity yet. They traded away their best score. Yeah, they... So tell me why not.

She just told you. Kennedy Carter. She just told you that... Kennedy? She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was told you that your... Hey, Kennedy Carter. Kennedy. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man. She was the sixth man.

She was the sixth man. Who was she playing behind? Marina, who they traded. And now she's starting, since she's been gone. She's been gone since the game went in. Yeah, but she's been in and out. Now think about it. If I had my best score and then Kennedy is my backup, and then I get rid of this and

bring my backup, my team got weaker. I'm still missing a score. I'm still missing a whole score. I've become weaker. All I'm saying is, since 2016, the Fever have not been in position. The team that Chicago got this year has shown promise in the A spot to do the same thing that the Fever are doing. The only reason they can't do it is because they don't have that piece that the Fever have, which is Katelyn Clark.

That's all I'm saying. That's what I just said. Every team is a piece or two away from beating... Fuck up. Can we all unite here? But they're not. What do you mean? You said they're a piece of... You said they're a piece...

That's what I just said. No, no, no, you didn't. You said the same thing about Chicago. No, you didn't. That I just said about you. No, you didn't. That's not what you said. You said that there were, you said that fever was a pick or two away from being good. No, a piece.

A piece or two. They've had literally the number one pick the last two years. Exactly. Right? And they haven't been to the playoffs since 2016. So how could you be a piece or two away? Because they wasn't putting the right pieces there. So they're not a piece or two away.

It's the right piece. It's not a piece. You have to put the right piece. Like I said, they ain't been since 2016. You ain't a piece or two away. Now you got the piece. Now you going. So they're not a piece or two away because they added a piece?

They literally... Caitlyn Clark is the piece. Every year they've gotten... Caitlyn Clark is the piece. They've won more. They've gotten better every year. Caitlyn Clark is the Caitlyn Clark of fleck. Period.

Exactly, but every year they've gotten better. They were last, last... They were last, last year. They didn't get better, they were last. What are you talking about? I thought you were talking about I won what? They won more. They were last.

They won more games. Come on now. Piece or two away, they was last. I won more games. Come on now. Peace it to a way they was last. I don't understand. How? Because there's only 12 teams, Rashad. Like, there's not that much difference between the 12. Means you're 11th spot.

Right, but you're acting like there's like a huge gap. There's six now. Right. With Kaitlyn. Six. Right, but you're acting like there's like this ginormous gap between like the 8th and the 12 teams. There's not. It's very small.

That's what I'm saying. When they went 6-1, where were they at before? 6-1. Going into the 7th. They were 8th place, I think. They were going into the 7th spot, I believe. So they were 8th spot and they went 6-1 to get to the 6th spot? And they won against 6-1 against top 500 teams, I believe

Am I correct but again to your point about the Olympic break that does make a difference I want to blame it on that But it makes a difference when you have pieces of your team that have not been with you versus a team that was together for Two straight weeks practicing like there's a difference. There's gonna be a difference. No playoffs is coming up soon We have any more games until playoffs? I think seven. I think seven. Six or seven. Brandon, you've been a little quiet over here. I mean, I don't care about it.

You know what it is. You know what it is. Hot foul? Next subject. After giving Kayla Clark an impassioned halftime speech in our game. That was lit. They got at the ball. Everything changed, didn't it?

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I just don't like to brag or boss on this show. But let's keep this thing moving. We're going to talk about Lexi's favorite NBA team, Boston Celtics. So after winning its first NBA championship, signing the largest extension in NBA history, Celtics superstar Jason Tatum was on top of the world heading to the Paris Olympics. But then Tatum got curved by Kerr,

getting two DNPs in Olympic competition, going 0 for 16 on jumpers in Team usa's exhibition in olympic games while averaging five points and five rebounds so in a recent interview with jared weiss from the athletic tatum reflected on the experience saying quote obviously i wanted to contribute more and i've never been in this situation i started playing basketball at age three at the ymca and i've never not played so it was different and it was challenging i wasn't moping around i didn't have an attitude i wasn't angry at the world, I stayed ready and did what was asked of me and I won a gold medal, right? I'm always a glass half-full type

of guy, I always believe everything happens for a reason, whatever that is, I don't know yet but I'm certain I'll find out." You make this point a lot about superstars having to come on the Team USA and embrace being a role player. They're not going to get to do the same things that they get to do on their team. Obviously, Tatum is a shining example of that this summer. But does Tatum deserve more credit for embracing being a role player on Team USA? Yes. I think the narrative was it started on game one when he didn't play.

And I think it just put too much pressure on just the whole atmosphere when in reality you say everyone has to sacrifice for the greater good of whatever we're trying to go for, right? The greater good of the Olympics, the greater good for championships. trying to go for, right? The greater good of the Olympics, the greater good for a championship. Someone has to sacrifice, right? So if he's the sacrificial lamb, then why is his legacy even up for debate, right?

He did what it took. He's sitting there. He's happy. He's cheering. We did not see him mope, right? We felt bad for him, but he seemed happy. He's cheering, you know, just like no different than Hallie. Like, someone had to sit.

Those two were the guys, so they won the gold. Why are we still even talking about legacies and what's going to go on? They did what it took to win. That's all that really is. But Hallie, first Olympic team, Tatum playing in that Tokyo Olympic squad, second best player on that squad, you know, was getting burned, was getting run. I'm coming off a championship. That's the narrative you want to put. Dwyane Wade was the fucking Dwyane Wade coming off the bench.

Ball head Dwyane Wade was probably the most impactful dude on the... Someone had to do it. Right? He did it. We didn't question his legacy because he was coming off the bench. Right? He did what it took to win gold, and that's... I thought that was the goal,

to go there, win gold, come back. And everybody, no matter how their legacy went there, it shouldn't... It all, everybody should all be praised for what they did. You know. He handled it really well. We were all

mad for him. Tatum doing more damage, though, by still talking about this. There come a point where it's like... This is better than saying no comment. He might be cooked. Who? Jason Tatum. He might be cooked. Jason Tatum might be cooked. Why do you feel that Jason Tatum might be cooked. Who? Jason Tatum, he might be cooked. Jason Tatum might be cooked, man. Why do you feel that Jason Tatum might be cooked? The reason

why he feels like that because, shit, everything. He didn't get Eastern Conference finals, he didn't get finals MVP, and his running mate is better than him. So it's like, yeah,'s kind of probably feeling doubt like maybe I'll win a championship. I'll be damn if Derek white playing over me. Whoo. That's just I don't give a fuck I'll go home. Not even for love of your country. I'll go home. I pay taxes I couldn't find minutes for him. Like I just don't like I don't think that was true. I think they trying to cook him Legacy, I just don't think, I don't think that was true. Like, I think they trying to cook him. His legacy. Trying. Yeah.

Yeah, I think he could have found minutes for him. I think he's cooked right now. He's in the crock pot. Because he's in that stage now where it's like, like, he probably feel like, what's his name? What's the boy from Denver? MPJ. Got paid, Max, and then now feel like,

well, you know, we can go over here with this guy now. Nice. And he don't care, but he, you know, his attitude is more like, I don't care about none of y'all. So, they're just kind of like in a... They do have very differing approaches to what is going on right now.

And you can see it. That's what's being visible right now. Yeah, and Jalen is like... I'm in the booth. Jalen Brown should be the only Boston Celtics player feeling disrespected this year. This summer. Damnalen Brown should be the only Boston Celtics player feeling disrespected this year, this summer. Damn. He should be the only one. I come back, I get finals MVP and Eastern Conference MVP,

and I don't even touch the USA jersey. He's the most disrespectful. They didn't even ask you to come. Yeah, they didn't even ask me. Sorry, I got my money in the bag, you know. Facts. And I'm coming back next year. And I rap. And I year. And I rap.

And I rap. And I have other interesting talents that extend beyond. That's better than a gold medal. I'm a fucking rocket scientist. No, I'm saying I'd rather be Jalen Brown right now than that gold medal. Than Jalen sitting on the bench. I'm sure Jason would

just chill for the summer. I'd rather chill for the summer. Instead of dealing with all this extra scrutiny that he I'm sitting on the bench Jason what she was able to just chill for the summer Well, I'm gonna chill for Instead of being but I get it deal with all this extra scrutiny that he does there's a limb with Jade prices with the niggas Who Jalen? Yeah, Jalen would trade places. But if I'm Tatum, I would trade with like My guy gonna treat me like he just now with today's age everybody's looking for that opportunity I think anybody would take that opportunity to be on that team and then play second, third, fifth, 14th, fifth, or whatever it is, and just

be on the team just to say, I won the medal. That's what Holly was on. Like he said, Holly was over there. He wasn't tripping about shit. Nigga, I'm just a smooth sailing. Ain't nobody tripping about him. Hey, look, that's the point. He's like, nigga, I'm a part of the A class project. I ain't do shit. We got an A+.

And ain't nobody in five years going to mention it. Thank you. Ain't nobody going to mention it. And when I come back next time, you're going to put me in the front because I got the gold medal. Funny part is, no one's going to mention, no one's going to remember how many minutes he played. Just that he got two gold medals. Just a gold medal. You know what I mean?

Like, nobody knows how many minutes the 92, 96, 2000, nobody knows how many minutes they actually played. We just know they're gold medalists. And when we say who is better, it's the team. It's not individuals. Yeah. I mean, but to his point is, you know, look, he's getting cooked. Huh?

Tatum's getting cooked. He looks like it's too much. Well, his money. Because he wasn't supposed to make that statement. Well, you know what happened? His money not looking like his awards in the NBA. That's a lot of niggas in the league. Like, your money not looking like your game.

That's all it is. It's a lot of dudes in the NBA. It's a lot of dudes in the NBA like that. Where your money is up there, but your game doesn't look like that. Who the fuck are you talking about? I'm just saying in general. It's a lot of guys.

Name names. Maybe he felt like that. Maybe he felt like, I got paid to be that guy, but Joe Game doesn't look like that. Who the fuck are you talking about? I'm just saying in general. There's a lot of guys. Name names. Maybe he felt like that. Maybe he felt like, I got paid to be that guy, but I'm really not that guy. What point is he making? I'm just saying. I'm going to say he's not wrong to feel that way. I mean, because I have never seen nobody come off a championship and get treated like that. Facts.

But he can't control that. That's out of his control. I can holla at Steve. It is my control. You know what I can do? I can tell Coach K, fuck you. Get on. Get the fuck out of here. You my coach. I mean, or Steve Kerr. You's my coach. Not Coach K, but Steve Kerr, yeah.

Coach K was his coach in college. I told Steve Kerr you could watch out. You was with him. And I'll see you next year. I'll see you twice. You was with him. Making decisions. I think that's the Duke brotherhood. That was weird. Grant Hill, Coach K. Hold on. That's what I'm saying. By the age of 25, That was weird. Grant Hill, Coach K. Hold on. Hold on. That's what I'm saying. By the age of 25, he's a five-time All-Star, four-time All-NBA, NBA champ, All-Star MVP.

Eastern Conference. They still treat you like a side bitch. So you're saying the bread shit match what he's accomplished. And it is matching. I don't even know if there's fucking 10 people in history. With his accolades. That has these accolades by the age of five. They still treat him like the work.

Like, what the fuck are we talking about? They still treat him like the work. And that's fine, but he's not, clearly. He is the work. He is the work. I didn't even know he has the East. That's bougie work. That's some bougie work.

That's some bougie work. Yeah, that's it. You like the nice places. You like the nice places. We get it. It ain't boozy work. Yeah, that's it. I mean, we get it. You like the nice places. You like the nice places. We get it. It ain't worth the lay. We get it. I don't get it.

It's very weird. It's odd. Like, I can see why they fucking him. I mean, I... To be honest, why? What I'm saying is... What they mad for? I can see why he's being...

The nigga has too many accolades already. So his what? They gave him those accolades. Which is why I said even more fuck up. What I'm saying is, because if he would have won this year, he would have already, by the age of 25, already had two Eastern Conference final MVPs,

all-star MVP. Well, he don't. In a final... Well, he doesn't. He does already 2021, 2022. Yeah, the inaugural Eastern Conference Finals. Yes, he does have one. If he would have got it this year, he would have had two of them.

But Gil. And the Finals MVP. He would have probably been the most decorated kid at this age, besides somebody like Kobe. But Kobe would have only had three All-Stars and three MVP. But we had this conversation before the season started, right when I picked Boston as a team. It was like like does he have

to win it to to further his legacy and what what what what we was having this conversation during the playoffs when we said well if he if he wins it if he wins the mvp is cool but if he wins the championship he's cemented now we're having a whole different conversation because he's cemented already because we're finding out who's the better player. Because he got fucked over at the MSA. No, not that. We just find out who's the better player over there. Jalen Brown is the better player.

Let's just stop. Okay, so if Jalen Brown doesn't lead his team in scoring, what are you going to say? It doesn't make sense. Because he should, right? He's the best player. He doesn't have to. We just have to win.

We just have to win. We just have to win. The best player wins on the team. He does win. He plays both sides of the ball. He plays both sides. Yeah, actually, yeah. Actually, Jalen, actually, he's a hooper.

He's a hooper. Actually, like Stack Jack said, yeah, he's a hooper. He plays both ends. I don't even know what the fuck that means. That means you play both ends. You play defense and offense. Oh, that's what a hooper means now? Yeah, that's what a hooper means?

Yeah, a scorer is just a person that scores. That's not what a scorer is. We never talk about defense. It was a basketball player. I always talk about defense. No, the two names was basketball player and hooper. And hooper. That has nothing to do with defense. Hooper was niggas who didn't know how to play basketball player. I always talk about defense. No, the two names was basketball player and hooper.

That has nothing to do with defense. Hooper was niggas who didn't know how to play basketball. They just go to the park and they just know how to score. That was the hooper for the last two, three years.

It was basketball player. Wait, when did we start talking about defense? Huh? Defense has always been included in basketball player versus hooper. Are you a basketball player

or are you just a Hooper? Are you just a guy? Do you know how to hoop? Do you know how to hoop or are you just a scorer? Are you just a scorer? You score the ball. Are you a basketball player or are you just a six-man Hooper? Someone who goes to the Drew League and he just hoops.

That's what a Hooper was. A Hooper plays both ends. That's the first time I've heard that. That's what you just called that. That's what a hooper was. That's the first time I've heard that. That's what you just called that. That's what it's always been, bro. What are you talking about? That's what y'all... See, you gotta get it mixed up.

Where are you hoops at? You guys have never said that. Who has never said that? The hooper plays both sides of the ball? I just said that. Y'all never said that. It's out there. That's how I live it. We've never talked about a hooper playing both sides of the ball. Jack just said that Hooper playing both sides of the ball. I always talk about Hooper's playing both sides of the ball I always talk about this guy

I can't fuck with him cuz he don't play both sides of the ball But that was not you didn't that wasn't a hoop a basketball player. I never said it whether it was Hooper or basketball What are you arguing about? Because the two categories... I don't give a fuck what he said. The two categories... If you don't care what he's saying, how did I get in the middle of it? When he brought it up. Okay, the two categories were called basketball players and just Hoopers.

No, it wasn't. Not what he's referencing to. What I'm saying is basketball players and just Hoopers. Hoopers were dudes that just went out there, rolled the ball, and they just hooped. They didn't know how to play basketball. That's where you learned it. Kobe Bryant was a basketball player. LeBron, a basketball player. Hoopers were six men who just come in

and just played. Hoopers. Now it's hoopers and scores? Now these hoopers now, this random nigga... I never said it was a basketball. If you're a hooper, you're a scorer. I never said it. I don't know what he's talking about. I'm a Hooper.

I Hoop. I do it all. I don't just do one-dimensional. What are you talking about? I'm not a one-dimensional nigga. I'm not talking about... Now it's Hooper, scorer, basketball player. Yeah, I don't...

The conversation is Hooper versus Hooper. That's what he's talking about. Hooper, basketball player. Stack Jack posted some shit about Hooper versus... Versus... Scorer. Scorer. And that's what he's referencing. He said, I'm about Hooper versus... Versus, um... Score. Score. And that's what he's referencing.

He said, I'm a Hooper. I play both sides of the ball. Okay, so before that, a Hooper was a nigga who just played basketball. I don't know. Before that, a Hooper was exactly what it was. What he described. To me. To me.

A dog, a Hooper, whatever. A nigga play both sides. Go get you a bucket, I go stop a nigga. I'm out here hooping. What was the basketball player? I don't know, nigga. You made that shit up. A basketball player is a... A I go stop a nigga. I'm out here hooping. What was the basketball player? I don't know, nigga. You made that shit up. A basketball player is a white man.

A basketball player is a white man. Say it again. Say it again because I know they want to be together. It started where? A basketball player. Where? Where did it start? A couple years ago.

A couple years ago. How many years? Was I there? Let him speak. Was I here, Bardaga? What was it called again? I wasn't here. That was the debate, though.

Hooper's first basketball player. I wasn't part of that debate. I'm just telling you what was going on. So when did he say that about Hooper versus the score? A basketball player is a white man. I believe yesterday. Oh. Yes.

Yesterday. All right. So up until yesterday, what was the conversation? The same as it is today. It wasn't Hooper versus the score. Both sides of the ball. But what was the name of that? It was called a basketball player.

Hooper. No, it wasn't. A Hooper. You Hooper. Because name of that? It was called a basketball player. No, it wasn't. A hooper. You hooped. Because we talk about score shooter, hooper basketball player. So now it's hooper score. What?

Anything to do with hoop has to do with defense. It's not just scoring the ball. That's what scorers get fucked up. You just talk about putting the ball. A nigga who just put the ball in is useless. Yeah. If you're just a scorer, you're useless. They didn't label a hooper as a scorer. The hooper was the nigga who just didn't ball in is useless. Yeah. If you just a score, you're useless. They didn't label a hooper as a score.

The hooper was the nigga who just didn't know how to play basketball. So who is the nigga to do both? What do you call him? Basketball player. No, that's a white man in a jersey. That's called the basketball player. Niggas who knew how to play basketball.

Right? So N1 dudes were called hoopers. The N1 dudes were hoopers. What? What? A person that plays defense and doesn't really score that much. A defender. But are they? They're not a hooper, too. Wait, wait, say that again.

They're not a hooper, too. If they play a really good defense, they don't score that much. They're a defender. Why are they not a hooper, then? They're a defender. Why are they not a hooper? Because they can't score. They don't do it equally.

They don't do it equally. They don't do it equally. They do score. They don't do it equally. At a super high level. They don't do it equally. He can't come down and... What if he does just in spurts? He's a defender. But why can't he be a hooper too?

That's not the criteria that we allow. Because he doesn't score good enough. We don't allow that. Okay, but again, so it's about the scoring then. Okay, we're going to go by his... It's about the scoring. It's about the offense. It was a steal champ. You don't allow that. You got to. OK, but again, so it's about the scoring then. OK, OK, we're going to go by his. But it's about the scoring. Al Iverson's a steals champ. He was a steals champ.

It's about the offense. Multiple years in a row. OK, but I'm not asking you. More about the offense. What does he fall under? He's a hooper. Yeah, he's a hooper. He says he plays defense.

Who's a hooper? Huh? So he's considered a hooper. So being a steals champ. Does being a steals champ mean that you're a steal? Yeah, that's defense. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.

Will you take the ball from the other side? Is that defense? It is a part of it. All right. So why are we asking these defender. Yeah, that's defense. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. You take the ball from the other side. Is that defense? It is a part of it. All right. So why are we asking these crazy things? Y'all acting crazy right now. Hey, did you name some just scores that wasn't hoopers? Can I name some scores that wasn't?

That falls under the category that he was. You mean, can I name some scores who weren't defenders? No, you said hoopers. Because a score is just scores. I understand. He's trying to change this. Okay, yeah. A scorer who can play defense is a hooper.

Who are hoopers? So name hoopers. So name some scorers who can play defense, right? That's what you want me to do. No, no, no. Name whatever category that this falls under. So name us just scorers that don't play defense. That don't play defense.

That don't play defense. Reggie Miller? Didn't play defense like that don't play defense. That don't play defense. Reggie Miller? Didn't play defense like that. Okay, well, he's a shooter. Steve Nash. Didn't play defense at all. He's a shooter, right? He's not a shooter, right?

Gilbert didn't play defense. Says who? You said you don't like playing defense. I said, who says who? You said you didn't like playing defense. So you said you're not a defender. You said on this couch you're not a defender. You said, I don't like defense at all.

I was third in steals. So I just. You said it yourself, though. You didn't play defense. You said it yourself. No one. You're playing against nobody. Nobody was good enough.

That's exactly what you said, bro. I said I didn't pass the ball, but I had two people to average. I never played defense because I didn't have. Jamal Crawford. I had two people to average 19, but I said I didn't pass the ball. Jamal Crawford didn't play defense. It's a lot of... I mean, that's four.

The person who said it, where does he fall in this category? He plays both sides. He said he plays both sides. He said. Yeah. He plays the average 20 a game

and he played against the hardest offensive player out there. When he's out there, he started the best niggas. Yeah. And he was putting... And he said he won.

And he won a championship. He won? Yeah, with Smurfs. So by his definition, he's a hooper. So the definition revolves around him and then if you fit into it, that's you? No, it doesn't revolve around him. It revolves around whoever it revolves around. It don't have to just be him.

It could be the niggas that do both The niggas who play both sides of the Jalen Brown Certain niggas like that They play both They hoopers That's what he's saying Them niggas are hoopers

So is Klay Thompson a hooper? Yes Does he play both sides of the ball? Yes So Curry's not a hooper Yes he was running around Guarding Kyrie I don't know what

Yes he was trying to go So Curry's not a hooper? No I want you to contradict yourself Is he all defense Yes is so Curry's not a Hooper No, I want you to contradict is he all defense no, so Jay neither was the person who said y'all I'm on the Hooper neither the person who said it. Draymond's not who he don't he not score like that See if I see Draymond will fall in the basketball player you fall under defender basketball Playmaker I feel like triple double so curryoubles, you're more than a defender. So Kyrie's not a hoop? So Kyrie, what is he?

Is he a scorer? So Luke is just a scorer? Scores. Okay. Are they going to stop somebody? Hey, listen. We need to stop. Drew Holliday, stop.

Stop that nigga. So he's a hooper? Stop him. Drew Holliday's a hooper? Drew Holliday's for sure a hooper. Even though he don't score that much? He does score that much. He scores.

What? He's a two-way player. That's what I'm saying, though, but like certain players I brought up, they don't score that much. He does score that way. He scores. What? He's a two-way player. That's what I'm saying, though, but, like, certain players I brought up, they don't score enough. DeMar is a scorer. DeMar is a scorer. How much does Drew Holiday average? Yes. Yeah, he don't play no defense.

Shouldn't a defensive player be on the all-defensive team? Like, where are we? You don't have enough slots for everybody to fit. How about this? Oh, Super Paul. Since you can't have enough slots for everybody to fit. How about this? Oh, Super Bowl. Since you can't Google, there's a defensive rating. What should your defensive rating when you're in a game should be for you to be considered a defensive player? Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know what that is. I think that was over our heads. Yeah. No, it wasn't over your head because I know you didn't Google it for this person. I'm not a Googler. Oh, okay. Google is a very useful tool. I'm not a Googler.

I know personally. I'm not a Googler, man. He said if you wasn't on a team that was ranked one defensively, you ain't a Hooper. His team was never ranked number one as a defensive team. So he doesn't even fit the criteria that he's saying. So I don't even know where it came from. I know I was getting tagged in it. And he said, niggas are scary.

There's not one nigga I ran from. I know niggas was running from me. Why are you taking it personal? No, I'm not. I'm not taking it personal. But I'm saying the person who's saying it, do you fit the criteria that you're talking about? He explained that he did. But he doesn't.

But he does. Show me a team that was number one defensively. The San Antonio Spurs. They was never number one. They were third. The best that ever third. But he doesn't. But he does. Show me a team that was number one defensively. The San Antonio Spurs. They was never number one. They were third. The best that ever was third. That was the best. Oh, no.

It was Warriors. We either got to be talking about that or Indiana. We got the video. We either got to be talking about Warriors. Indiana was not. Indiana. We're talking about the Warriors. Warriors, what year?

With BD in them? Yeah, we believe. We got the video. I don't think they was number one defensively. Can we run that stack video? All right. There's too many scorers talking right now. They're not hoopers.

There's a difference between scorers and hoopers, right? You got people that can score points, and you give them their credit. Scoring points in the NBA is a hard job. A lot of us average 20 a year, right? I average 20 a couple years. But scorers are not hoopers to us. Hoopers play on both ends. Hoopers compete.

They play defense. They score, and they go down there to on both ends. Hoopers compete. They play defense. They score, and they go down and they stop their man, and they win, right? Everybody ain't hoopers. There's a lot of players that came through the NBA

that can score points that didn't have long careers. It's just the truth, but everybody's not a hooper. A lot of your favorite scores were scary. They were soft. They didn't compete on defense.

They didn't try to stop nobody. And they didn't make nobody better. And they didn't win shit. And they was never on the team when their team was number one defensive team in the league. Big difference between hoopers and scorers. I respect hoopers. That was an unprovoked rant. Yeah, we don't know who it was.

So, uh, I just like to know what be triggering y'all to be going in. That's what I'm saying. Niggas not playing defense. So, the Golden State... I just like to know what be triggering y'all to be going in. The Golden State... That's what I'm saying. Niggas not playing defense. Like, there's no games going on. The Olympics are over.

What made him do this? The Golden State team is 19th. What about the Indiana team? He must have been watching the playoffs last night. No, they were 10. So, he was never on the team that was number one. What about the Spurs? No, they were third.

It's the best. That's why I said I don't. You know, I'm going to look. Yeah, I know. I'm going to look. I know, I know. And they got to win. You didn't mention that.

You said they got to win. They got to win. Regardless of all that, I think we know what the fuck he's talking about. But they got to win at championship or do they have to just go to the playoffs? That's what I'm saying. He didn't clarify. Because going to the playoffs, that's winning. Like, if you go to the playoffs consistently. I'm assuming that'm saying. He didn't clarify. Because going to the playoffs, that's winning. Like, if you go to the playoffs consistently...

I'm assuming that he means win championships. Because everybody can't win it, but... I'm assuming he means win championships. Overall, the message is what? Play both sides of the ball. If you don't play both ends... You're not a hooper. I think that's the clear message that he's sending.

That was his message. If you don't play both sides of the ball, I do not respect you as a basketball player. You will score. You can score that, bitch. Yeah. So what does Paul Pierce? Because most everybody...

You'll score. But he won a championship, but he was only like... You see what I'm talking about? Like, I can't... You have to put names on it so we can look at them. You gotta put names

so we can put them in their buckets. So we can see the... Your name's so many... I've never seen Paul Pierce run for me. Like, who's running from... Hey, use so me. I've never seen Paul Pierce run for me like who's running from And use your imagination. I don't need I don't want imagination is different I don't want to but you have one but you have to now cuz I don't have to tell you nothing I don't have to tell you what I'm talking about. Guess. Okay, so figure it out. Okay, if I'm talking about

Here somebody who's talk trace a sign. Did he play defense like that? No, so he's a scorer. Yes. KD, all the niggas are scorers. Scores. KD won championship. We don't fall under it. KD never ran from somebody. Melo never ran from somebody.

Paul Pierce never ran from somebody, so they out of that category. Shouldn't you have to fit all of it? Nope. It fits how he wants it to. He's saying, if you don't play both sides of the ball... See, now you're keeping one. He said five things, so you can't just use one. But he said the one important thing. If you're listening, the important thing

ain't got to do with the sub shit he's saying. He's saying, nigga, if you don't play both sides of the ball, get the fuck out of my face. I don't want to talk to you. I ain't got nothing to talk about as far as you being a hooper. Now, if you can score that bitch and you don't hoop, you look and all that. You won't be done. Now, my question is, what makes a defensive player?

What does your, if you don't make the team, what does your defensive rating have to be as a player for you to make that team? For you to be considered your defensive player? You got to ask him that. I don't know. Okay, then what do we do? Also, because some of the best defenders, what they do isn't... You can't quantify a stop all the time.

And you wouldn't consider Katie to be an above-average defender? You cannot always quantify someone who gets stops consistently. Really? You just got people to be like, damn, she played good defense, he played good defense, but, oh, what's their steals?

Maybe they don't get a ton of steals. That person right there is a hooper, and they're not allowing none of that shit that's going on out there to go on. That's a hooper right there. So that qualifies as him? So that means, whatever... That's what he said he is. But you're stamping on it. No, I'm stamping the notion of what he's

talking about, about the prototypical player that's a hooper that plays both sides, I agree with him. If it's him, he's if it's him he's saying it's him okay now can i but technically by theory you play both sides right like you have to you have to in theory now to be on the court now if you go out there you're you you are a defensive player and i give you 60 and 40 and 30 every time we play. Are you actually a defensive player? You're not giving me anything. You're giving our team that.

Bro, it's a team game. Okay, so wouldn't this be a team defense, sir? You see how I can compete? You're playing both sides. He said compete. He said compete. You can compete. Don't run.

You're doing all the things that... You can compete all you want and get your ass body. What's the matter? How do you not know what he's talking about, though? Like, when you go to the park... Because I've never heard... I got him. I never heard nobody say...

Hey, listen. Move. I got him. Man, move. I got him. I got him. Would you rather have a hooper on a below-average team, or would you rather have the scorer who, like, plays no defense,

but he has, like, really good defense? They didn't change the terminology. They didn't like really good defense because he's playing defense but what if he gets scored on he what this happens in basketball you get scored on that's why it's five of us and if we all do the same thing we can switch and do all we need to do to stop whoever's going so what was reality do you tell me shooter. And so he's not. I mean, I don't know. Is it an Uber or a shoe? What was Derrick Rose? Score? Y'all want me to answer these? I mean, he played on a good defensive team. These are very simple. He played on a good defensive team. Like, he played on a great defensive team. I mean, you're saying it's a team thing. Is it team or individual? How are we doing this now? That's why I said you have to put context in it.

We don't know what he's... That's what I'm saying. We don't know what he's talking about. His opinion is his opinion. We don't know nothing. We get a minute clip. We don't know what he's responding to. We don't know who's in it.

Like, who is he talking about? Because he could be talking about someone that we're not even thinking about. He can't be talking about nobody at all. He's just talking about the state of hoopers versus fucking scores. A lot of you niggas think you're supposed to get a lot of credit by just putting the ball in the pool. No, he said your favorite scorers are talking too much.

That too. That's what he feel. A lot of y'all niggas that don't play both sides of the ball are talking about one side of the ball. But what scores are we talking about? We're talking about scores now. We're talking about past scores. We could be talking about all of it.

We don't know who he's talking about. You're arguing for somebody that we don't know. You're trying to nitpick it. Instead of being an overall conversation about the overall thing you're talking about, you're side-cutting it. You're saying, oh, what about... So is he saying it's like he said what he said? It was clear.

It wasn't clear. It was. First of all, a hooper plays both sides of the ball. But no one ever said a hooper was a bat. Like, before yesterday, the whole basketball world, it was in categories. Basketball player, hooper. The hooper was usually six men that can score a lot of points, but they didn't. Jordan Poole was considered a hooper. The Hooper was usually six men that can score a lot of points, but they didn't. Jordan Poole was considered a Hooper.

But who? That was. Okay. Where was this set in stone? Again. Where is this on paper? You're saying the whole basketball world believed that. For the last two years.

I never heard of that. This was the. Am I right? Am I right? Yes. Okay. Am I right about what? Basketball.

Basketball. Who's agreeing with you? You got four people. So just assume. How about this? What the right? Yes. Am I right about what? Basketball. You got four people. So just assume. How about this? Instead of being combat, just assume that we're all four are telling the truth. Before yesterday, it was, are you a basketball player? Somebody who knows how to play the game.

When there's referees coming in and there's coaches in it, you can perform. And then there's hoopers. They look very great in the summer. Drew League, they're superstars in Drew League. But then when they get into the game under structure, they didn't know how to play. That was the guideline. So when you're saying hooper, we're saying that was just a dude who just scored, didn't know how to play basketball.

He's changing the terms of it. So now it's time to play the fourth guy. I thought that a basketball player is someone who knows how to play basketball. Okay. Right? And then a Hooper, in what you're talking about terminology, is a guy who knows how to... Is crafty.

Score, crafty, all of the little things that make you what we call Jamal Crawford is example I believe we use as all under the Hooper, right? Yeah, and in that scenario comparing a basketball player to a Hooper would have been Jamal Crawford Not because he can just score but he plays free He's free. He will be considered a very Player had nothing, never really to do... But would you call Jamal Crawford a hooper then? Not from Stack Jack's perspective.

From Stack Jack's perspective, he's not a hooper because he don't play both sides of the ball. But you said he was a hooper. From what we talked about, we were talking about Jamal Crawford being a free, go out there... Right, that's what we were saying. What the fuck did being a free go out there I just said

the niggas who out there that play free we labeled them as Hooper I said Stack Jack's perspective and I said he changed it now you're going with his change listen all I'm saying is when you got a Hooper and you got a basketball player we were never

comparing that to defense we were never saying anything about defense. We were never saying anything about defense. Never. Now he's thrown in defense. Okay. That's what we've been saying. No, you haven't. No, I've just been saying it's clear that he's saying you are a hooper when you play both sides of the ball.

Y'all are sub-cutting it. You're sub-cutting it. I literally kept saying the same thing. But now all your hoopers are out of this now. In his perspective? Yes. No, in yours. I don't have... Then why are we still talking about it?

Because he's the topic. By your definition. He's the topic. When you guys were talking about a hooper, now he throws in defense. Now what is your guy, Paul? Now all your hoopers are scorers. What guy?

Now all your hoopers are scorers. He said Jamal Crawford. He said Jamal Crawford was a free league hooper. Yeah, he's not a hooper. So he's not a hooper no more. He's a scorer. So all your hoopers before are now. He said Jamal Crawford was a free league hooper. Yeah, he's not a hooper. So he's not a hooper no more. He's a scorer. So all your hoopers before are now in his scores. Absolutely.

I'm adopting. All your hoopers are now in his scores. I'm adopting his. Why were they hoopers? Why was those free? Because they don't play. If it wasn't a thing, why was the free? Because since you said this was, why was the free person like a Jamal Crawford considered a Hooper

Before yesterday because he plays free Huh? That's dollar play free style of play dollar play. What did I say a Hooper was? Some more so long as this place free just scored and play free. So we both had the same definition, right? Before yesterday we both had the same fucking definition, but he's questioning us where we get the definition from. But he has the same definition

that we had before he watched the video online. Or he gave me a new definition. That he gave you a new definition. Yes, that I agree with. Okay. So my old definition

has been dropped, which I'm not allowed to do because it fucks up his whole whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but I'm going to drop it in. I just want to know now where basketball player falls. Is that no longer a thing? Did he bring it into the thing? No, so his basketball player... He didn't bring it into the equation. We're not talking about it. We got somebody who just goes on for a minute and

ten seconds to talk about somebody who we don't know and that's we just gonna accept this new terminology? I love it. I fucking love it and I've been waiting to introduce it. It makes sense. You're a Hooper when you play both sides of the ball and you care and you compete you out there you try to take a nigga head off. That's a Hooper. That's why I grew up. So before that, whatever definition I had, this one makes way more sense than the definition I had. What was the definition you had before then? Of a today's Hooper? Did we just say that?

No, no. What was your definition before? A Hooper that, what a Hooper is? No, no, no. What was your definition before? Of a Hooper. Of his Hooper. What was your definition before?

How he described a Hooper. What was your definition before? You said free. No, no, your definition before? Oh, yeah. How he described a hooper, what was... What was your definition before? Just say it free. No, no, no. No, no, no. Hell, the person he's describing that is now your hooper, what would you describe that player as prior to being a hooper?

A dog. Okay. But then that was somebody that you said doesn't really score. No, it wasn't. I always said a dog goes and get both sides. He gonna come down, he gonna chew your ass up, he gonna get the other side, he gonna chew your ass up. My stances don't change, man. I know, but, like, what does that mean exactly?

Like, point-wise? Like, is there, like, a range? Why does it have to be a range? I'm a dog. Well, I was asking you if someone plays a little bit more defense than offense, why aren't they a hooper? I'm biting the same... Both sides, I'm biting the same. My power in biting is the same.

I'm going down, I'm scoring you this way, and I'm gonna bite your ass on this side. But how many points do you have to score to be a Hooper versus a Dog? It don't have to be how many. It's just the ability, the ability to do it. So what... where's the difference between Dog and Hooper? So where does Raymond Greene fall in that now?

Or, uh... There has to be a distinction between the two. Or, um... Ben Simmons. Where would they fall in at now? There has to be a distinction between the scoring. Ben Simmons, where would they fall in at? I don't know. There has to be a distinction of the scoring. Go from dog to hooper because they're doing the same thing. Is 20 points a game enough for you?

I don't know. Is it enough for you? It's your definition. You're asking me. I'm telling you. So, is 20 points a game enough for you? 20 points a game in guarding the best player on the floor I don't know you don't know who's changing your you're the one who's changing you you hear somebody talk for 10 minutes and you change

Everything you knew so it's up to you. What can you give us the leg? How about this give us the label so moving forward we know we talking about I'm gonna like his label I like everything he said everything he says becomes gold Yes, for sure. Stack Jack. Hooper is a nigga who played both sides of the ball. 20 points isn't enough because he said a lot of players score 20 a game are not in the league no more. So I feel like

it has to be more than 20. Well, that's how you feel. I don't feel that way. That's what he said. I don't feel that way. But that's not how I feel. Be gold with him. I don't have to be gold with him. But you just like the statement of Hooper. You see how far they take it? They take it around the block. I don't have to be gold with him. But you just like the statement of Hooper. Yeah. You see how far they take it? They take it around the block.

No, but I'm asking the points per game. Take it around the block. He said 20 points per game clearly is not enough. No, he didn't. He said a lot of us scored 20 points a game. Right. He didn't say it wasn't enough. He never said none of that.

He said a lot of them aren't in the league no more because they're not Hoopers. He never said none of that either. We don't want to play the clip, man. I don't want to eat y'all up too bad. Body bags in here. People are not in the league no more because they're not Hoopers. He never said none of that either. We don't want to play the clip, man. I don't want to eat y'all up too bad. Body bags in here. 20 points is a lot in the league. Yeah, 20 points is a lot. That is a lot.

It's fucking obvious. It's fucking obvious as fuck. They're searching over here. I don't know. Hoopers, man, we know what it is. So we got a new definition today. So we went from basketball players versus Hoopers. Now it's Hoopers, man, we know what it is. Is it... So we got a new definition today. So we went from basketball players versus hoopers, now it's hoopers versus scorers,

but there's also defenders mixed in. But there's defenders, right? And then you got basketball players, which are, you know... And we got shooters. Crafty niggas. And now you see why the basketball community is stupid. You just bring in new stuff that has nothing to do with it because you want to change it.

And then everybody saw, like, Dog used to be a nigga who did not play hard work the show So so what we say is stupid cuz you don't agree with it. I Don't know. All right What you just said is the community stupid because they know I said the community stupid because everything is being changed so you can feel smarter and When we're talking we're talking about the same thing, but your definition changed. It just sounds better than yours.

I didn't come up with a definition. Mine should just sound better. I didn't come up with it. Who's yours? Yeah, whatever. You didn't come up with it. Exactly. It just sounds good.

You don't have one. Yours one just got trussed. I just adopted it. It sounds good. What he said. It makes sense. If you a hooper, you play both sides of the ball. That makes you a hooper.

How can we not be listening to that and be like, yo, that should be the standard. To be called a hooper is to play both sides of the ball. Why wouldn't that be a standard? Because before yesterday, being called a hooper... Meant you played almost no defense at all. You did nothing.

And now we've changed it. Just like they changed being a positionless player. All of a sudden, we can't put a nigga at the power forward at the guard position. All this new rules shit we've been changing. Now we can't change the rules now? Yeah, just a bunch of people just breaking in. We can't change the rules now?

I would like to see if this Hooper, if it carries. McAulay Flynn, pure Hooper. Malachi Flynn. Malachi Flynn, pure Hooper. You agree? It's your arenas, we'll call him McAulay. Jordan Poole, pure hooper. Malachi Flynn, pure hooper. You agree? I sure am. I'm sure Arenas will call Mackalai. Jordan Poole, pure hooper.

Monte Ellis, pure hooper. You would consider Jordan Poole a pure hooper? Scores. It's called pure hooper. That's what I'm saying. They're still using the whole... I don't got nothing to do with them. I don't fucking hang with them.

Wait, so what if you and him are the only two that are using this Hooper standard? Me and him are the smartest niggas in the world. Obviously, you motherfuckers is crazy and fucking crashing out. Isaiah Thomas. What the fuck is going on? Only two niggas believe the truth? Isaiah Thomas.

Shit, we the truth teller. We the only niggas that get it. Isaiah Thomas, pure Hooper. Hooper, so what? So we got what? Shooter, score, hooper. Hooper, so what? So we got what? Shooter, score, hooper. Everybody know where they fall into place when we talk

about this shit. Even if you don't think you do X, Y, Z, like, do you really play defense like that to be a hooper? I need to get my defense up, my nigga. You right. So is it an effort thing? Is it? Is it an acknowledgement thing? Is it? Is it an acknowledgement thing? Is it a fucking accountability thing?

Whatever it is, do you go out here and play deep? I would say it's a combination of effort and acknowledgement. Tyrese Maxey, pure hooper. See, they not rolling with your new hooper. Shay, pure hooper. Motherfuckers went and got the COVID shot. I don't give a fuck about that.

Bones, pure hooper. Lou Williams, pure hooper. Yeah, they not rolling with the COVID shot. I don't give a fuck about that. Bones, Pure Hooper, Lou Williams, Pure Hooper. Yeah, they not rolling with the new definition. We'll see, though. Who's that? The chat.

Fred Van Fleet, Pure Hooper. The new generation? That's the chat? I have no idea. No, this is the... Because it's been going on for two years.

It's already... They have an article. Someone's written an article. It's been on Twitter for that long. From a blog. A blogger's blog. I mean, it started the same way he just started this he started and he started from no blog spider-man you're hooper just randomly decided the guy for hooper spider-man pure hooper brandon's favorite curve player

so what do you fall under i don't know i don't under? I don't know. I don't play no more. No, when you did. I don't play no more. I was pure trash, probably. I was just pure trash. I'm just not going to let you do that to yourself. I wasn't good at all. Lottery pick.

Yeah, but you played defense, though. Yeah, definitely. And did he? Did he score? I definitely did. Did he play defense? So you was a Hooper. Did he play defense?

We don't know. Did he? He said he don't know. He said he don't know. He said he don't know. I don't know. I can go up in the player rating. Look, he can go just Google it. He can Google it if I play defense.

He can Google it. So Rashad, you can Google it. Google it and it'll be right, right? He's a hooper then. I don't like to see divisiveness on the couch. What you talking about? But if we can all come down. Damn!

Uh-oh, he done found something on me. He done found something on me. He done found something on me. Uh-oh. He done Googled me and how somehow I done came to the topic of conversation. All of a sudden. I asked. You know how far we going?

I asked first. He has moved the goalpost so far to the point where he has to make a point by bringing me into the conversation. That is insanity. It's insanity. We went from talking about Stack Jack to all of a sudden, what were you? Oh, my God. You can't put rules in if you don't even fall under them.

That's why I said talk to Stack Jack about the rules. A defensive rating. If you're not making an all-defensive team, what is your defensive rating to consider yourself an average defensive player to fall in under as a Hooper? Stack Jack. Hey, man, call this man. Because I'm pretty sure you don't want this number

calling yourself a Hooper. No, I don't. I don't want no Google stats, bro. I don't want no Statman stats. But I know if I get out there right now... I don't get that right now. I'll stop a nigga right now. Are you currently a hooper

right now? Fuck out of here, nigga. Who are you locking up on this couch? I don't give a fuck about them stats about 2007, nigga? Who are you locking up on this couch? That's what I'm saying. Effort and acknowledgement. You don't got nothing to do with that.

People are going to tell you that you're locked up. Who are you locking up on this couch? Everybody. Are you locking up Mr. B. Brandon Jennings? Everybody. Are you locking up Lexi? I got fouls to give. That ain't locking up.

That's fouling. That's not basketball. Locked up. He won't let me out. It just seems like it. He won't let me. That's fouling. That's not basketball. Locked up. That's the foul. It just seems like... He won't let me out. Stop fouling, shot. He won't let me out.

It just seems like the people who's talking about the defense locking up don't even fall into the category as a defensive player. Not in the NBA. Not in the NBA. Only in the Valley. They call me Dreamer. I just... It's like me calling people scoring, but I average 12.

I look stupid, right? Right? I would kind of look... I wouldn't look as good as I... If you're going to say someone plays both sides of the court, you have to fall under the category of your player defensive rating. So the question, is a Hooper always a Hooper? That's what I said.

What do we... Or do you lose Hooper certification? If so, can's what I said. What do we... Or do you lose hooper certification? If so, can you get it back? What do you mean? Stop playing defense? I mean... Is a hooper always a hooper?

If you stop getting budget... Can you ever lose a hooper distinction? A hooper? Like, get your hooper card revoked. And you got to get your credit back up. Do you ever lose the hunger

for stopping a nigga when you about to hoop? Like, you go down and he score on you. or you go score on him, he come down. Like, are you, does that hunger go away? No, never. Never. It's always hostile. Even?

Always hostile. You know what? Who is the gold standard for a defensive guard? How about that? The gold standard for a defensive guard? Michael Jordan? Ever? Michael Jordan, Kobe, who are you going to use?

I was going to say Gary Payton. Gary Payton, okay, perfect. Like a Gary Payton type. So we can get like a standard? Yeah, Joe Dumas. Ray John Rondo. Oh, Steve not here. That's crazy.

You see what Steve's like? All right, Gary Payton. Okay, let's see. His defensive rating was a 107.7. So, 107.7 by one of the best defensive guards who won a whole bunch of defense awards. What's the max point? What's the max?

Kobe, I think, has the most all-defensive selection'll say all defense. So we're done Kobe. We can The gold standard so he's on the driveway so reason why he's so Kobe's a Hooper It's the reason why we don't talk about even though we was calling him a basketball. He's the name. We don't speak It's the name. We don't speak Kobe's that one like that speak so Kobe's at 105 I like that so Kobe's a 105 as a defensive player so if he's gold standard what's what's the bottom end number of a defensive player Gary Payton's at 7.7 so who's the worst who would we say is a bad defensive guard i don't know i mean but i think

that just goes off like you say i think that just goes off your peers what they think do we say steph curry why not acknowledgement and effort no no not steph curry we'll say uh steve nash right let's go where ste Nash is. Steve Nash. You being determined a good defender, yeah, you have stats, but also your peers have to respect you. So Steve Nash is a 111.7. He was considered a bad. So that's bad.

Now, what's, what makes you, what number makes you a hooper? What was Kobe's number? I think it goes off your peers. 105. And the team you're on. That's the most defensive Gary P. I think it goes off your peers. It's not on that. I think it's about what your peers say. It don't matter what your peers say because it don't matter.

You can say you're a defensive player because you stopped two people, but you're giving up so much points. You're not a defensive player. But if your peers say, hey, that nigga right there. Oh, so now we won't go to your peers. We don't want to go to stats no more. He locked down.

That's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure he don't want to go to stats no more, right? That's what I'm saying. I think the Hooper thing got to go with your peers because that can't be all that. I don't think Hoopers are actually Googling. It can't be a stat. I mean, if it's a stat, then. Yeah, no niggas is going on the internet Googling up your defensive fucking rating.

I think it's just about who you played against. Yeah, you know. We know what we're talking about. It depends on who you ask, right? Bro, we know. Right? Y'all reaching. Y'all reaching, man.

This is no bullshit. If you asked me, was Kobe a great defender, what do you think I'm going to say? I hope you say yes. Well, why? Why would I say yes? Because he's a great defender. Why would I say? But I can only go off of. Well, why? Why would I say yes? Because he's a great defender. Why would I say... But I can only go off of what I...

Right? Are you going to go off one game? Before I score a six, they average 36 against him. Against him or the Lakers? Don't matter. Again, if this is my... If I don't watch no Kobe Bryant games and I only play against him in this setting, what is my perception of him? You can only go off of what you see personally, right?

Yeah. It has nothing to do with awards. I can only judge you off of how wise. So if you ask me about one of the best defensive guards, if you ask me, what do I think? I'm going to give you my answer. You're going to have that face. No, I'm not. Because your face is going to say, well, this is his awards. I'm going to

say, well, this is what I've done against him. It's because one guy feels that way doesn't mean the other 300 guys don't feel the other way. Exactly. You can feel that way. Exactly. You can feel that way. One person feels this way, the rest of us don't give a fuck. Two people feel that way. Exactly. You can feel that way. One person feels this way. The rest of us don't give a fuck. Two people feel that way. But you don't even

fall under the category. It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. I feel like he feels. You can't tell me I can't feel like I feel. You can't tell me. You can't tell me I can't feel like he feels. In his standard, you're just a scorer. It don't matter. I still feel the way he feels. And can't nobody me I can't feel like he feels. In his standard, you're just a score. Don't matter. I still feel the way he feels.

And can't nobody say you can't feel that way because you don't fall. What are you talking about, bro? You're just a score. It don't matter how you feel. It's reality. Where do you fall in this argument? You're a score. Where do we fall in the statistical stat man, stat man universe?

Where you just made up this whole thing that some nigga got to be in some kind of box so you can consider them this. Nigga, we all know fucking who. We all know who can defend and get a bucket. We all know about. We don't need no data, statistical fucking analysis. How do you know what someone does when they're not playing? What do you mean? Dog.

We know who can. I don't know what you do when you're not playing. You said Marcus Banks was the hardest nigga you ever had to play against. Yes. Me. Me. You. Did everybody else agree? Man, there's so many other people who agree. I don't know. You don't know. Of course you don't know.

But that's the answer you'll give when you're trapped and you can't really... I don't know what he does against everybody else. But you know what he did against you. You're the best guys, which means that if you're the best guy, he's doing that to you. Don't you think he might just be doing that to everybody else? Well, Kobe is the best guy, but he don't do that against me. So, okay.

Chauncey Billup is the best guy. The best defenders didn't do it. Like, what are you talking about? Tony Adams didn't do that against me. Bruce Bowen didn't do that against me. They still play defense. I don't know. But if you're asking me, you're asking me.

They still play defense, though. But you said I should assume. So I should assume everybody's fucking these niggas up then. Because I did it? No, niggas, you should assume that they're not doing what you're doing because you're a little bit better than the rest of them. You're a little bit harder to guard. Your offense runs like this.

So the other niggas may have problems against you, but Kobe's like, I can guard anybody else. Gil's my hardest guard. Kobe is the what? He has the most what? All defensive teams. All defensive teams.

For a guard. And his stats show it. 105. But if I move the stats to the people who's claiming defense, both dogs, and y'all are

damn near closer to Steve Nash than here, then you don't want to use the stats, because the stats don't matter, because everybody should know how you play defense. Yeah. I mean, he's going off numbers. You know what I know?

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Mellow is under Kobe, 104.7. Just FYI. You gotta take analytics with a grain of salt. I don't look at that shit when I'm talking about this. You gotta take it with a grain of salt. Who does? Who do you know? The eye can tell me.

Who do you know? The organization are run off of this shit. Who do you know that's doing that? This shit only. This is so crazy. Who do you know that's doing that? GMs. I know.

That's why a bunch of GMs are bad. Yeah, they do this. Are they bad? Yes. Oh. Because they don't... So what you're saying is what he's doing is bad? No, no, I'm saying the numbers.

If this is all you use? Oh, no, no, no. I'm not going to that. Mellow, I'm sorry, that was one season. Mellow is 108.6. That's his player rating. 108.6? If you use only that, you can't use only analytics for everything.

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on to Mostly Fans. Another glorious day in the arena. God has blessed us. You're laughing, bro. You contributed to some bullshit today. Too much Kiki on the set. I averaged 29.9.3.

Everybody was fucking scores. Because your hoop wasn't working on me. If you was a hooper, if you out there claiming you a hooper, and you had to guard me, that shit didn't work that day. All right? I'm just FYI. It didn't work that day. So we have an email question from underdog user Ronaldo9.

Composure. So we have an email question from underdog user Rinaldo9. Composure, merely a host, back in hosting mode. So questions from underdog user Rinaldo9. How do you tell kids these days that they're not good enough to go pro without hurting their feelings? Trash. Why would you tell a kid that? I'm going to say, how you hurt their feelings you go Without hurting feelings

He's the only one that can almost say what way what age we talking because you can't tell an eight-year-old They're not going to the NBA you can you can Why would you definitely can if you could tell them there's no standard you could tell them look eight-year-old? Definitely can. If you could tell him there's no standard, you could tell him, look. Eight-year-old does not do that. There's no way you can tell an eight-year-old that because when guys start playing basketball at 16 and they in the NBA, like. Yeah, it's. It can't. It's a 5% chance. Let's go high school senior.

We're going to go stats. Let's go high school senior. Listen, little eight-year-old. I taught a lot of my competition. You'll never make it. Let's go. Like kids? Yeah, like people I was going against.

No, not. No, I'm just talking about like as adults. As an adult. You're not telling other... You're not a kid telling other kids. How do you tell a 45-year-old that they're not going to the NBA? I'm just fucking with you.

How do you tell an 18-year-old high school senior who thinks, I'm going to be league? Let's go work on some other shit. Go get... Yeah. Over here, work on some other shit. Let's go over here.

Come over here. I don't... No, hey. Come over here and tighten it. You know damn well... Take learn to tighten it. You know damn well. Take this camera. Anyone he trains, he got to believe it. They superstar, all-star, number one draft.

Absolutely. You better believe it. I'm definitely. You can believe. You can believe. No, you got to do it. But you got to show up and give me some effort. If you don't give me no effort, I'm out of here.

You got to hit him with the A. So you ever thought about plan B? If your kid is lacking confidence, bring him to camp. I'm out of here. I hit him with the a so hey you ever thought about plan B The coach ain't playing me but Put yourself in 2k See you score score. Nigga, start yourself. And do not sub yourself out. Play on arcade. Nigga, make all the shots.

You're going to be good. How do you tell a... I don't know. I just feel like there's enough... Well, man, you can see it, though. You can see it, though. No, you just let them find out for themselves. No, what you do is you have them play one-on-one

versus somebody who's a little bit better than them. Yeah. And that ass-hooping usually... It's going to make them or break them. It's going to make them or break them. Yes. That is a coaching method in youth sports that I've seen others employ as well.

Yeah. Some people have delusions. Oh, that's where you want to be? And tell him he's a little bit younger, too. Like, if he's 14 and your kid's 12, let him say he's 11. your kid 12? Yeah, let him say he 11 killing them Yeah, 11 If you say 14 kind of like he's older bigger Younger and better

Yes That's sad. Let them come to that. I like all the time. Yeah motherfuckers in there dunking my son You know my youngest son. He's 13. I'm like, yeah, he 11 years old. 11. Look at it. Title say, I didn't change the title from the dude being 14 to he's 11. He's 11. He was like, no, I seen that on TikTok.

He's 14. I'm a Googler too, dad. Google too. Google is free. You ain't going to get me. I know you my daddy. Google is free. I got a little Googler. I done you my daddy. Google is free to all.

I got a little Googlers. I done already seen that. You're late, Dad. I got a little Googlers. That is the end of our show for today. What do you be telling your kids? Damn. I was going to see if he called.

He called. Why you say that? I was going to see if he was going to give us an answer. I'm going to just. I was going to see... Hey, Joe. He's saying they ain't got no talent out there. Joe, yeah, he trying... Joe, he asked you, Joe.

He's throwing it over the backboard. Joe, he's little. Joe, he asked you, Joe. He's 5'7". He's 5'7". Joe, he trying to say it, Joe. He's trying to say it, Joe. I wanted to throw the lob and see what Joe was going to do.

Because you know Joe is a coach. You know he coaches like... Multiple age groups. Give back to my community. Okay. Inspiration to society. He won't is a coach. You know he coaches like Multiple age groups get back to my community. Okay inspiration to society miss a practice will miss a day 107 degrees we will be at Little League practice this week. So one of these kids But that's how you tell them. That's how you tell them. You're not built for this. You're not built for this. You don't have to say nothing. See, you are not built for this. You are not built for this. Now get that little nigga up.

Now wait. Revive this nigga. Listen, I'm pretty sure that question was a joke. I'm pretty sure that was a joke. Oh, shit. No, I'm just kidding, bud. Just give them hope and guidance. I'm pretty sure that question came from you.

I'm disrespectful. I will train my kids for the rest of their lives to take you down. They're going to dub team you once they're old enough. Let's jump them. There you go. There you go. My godfather, Dr. T.T. Young. Don't worry. He'll come back.

He'll come back. I tell Nick. Vito will come back and let you know what time it is. I tell Nick's kids, his kids ain't playing. You got to be nicer to Nick's kids. Man, this man, he gave the nigga a spear on live. He speared him. I was watching.

Oh, my God. He speared the nigga a spear on live. Bro, he speared you. I was watching. Oh, my God. He speared the nigga live. He's like... No, the older Nick Young Jr., I feel like he playing basketball and stuff. It's like, you ain't gonna make it. That's what I said. You gave the nigga dimples, man. You gave the nigga dimples.

He's like 12. He's like Nick Young Jr., he's like 12, 13. What was the one he was with the other day? That's nice. He's still got it. Six. He's like six. Nick Young Jr., he done, man. Yeah, with Nick, yeah, we'll be on the show he was with the other day? He's like 5'6". He's still got it. He's like 6'. Nick Young Jr., he done, man.

Yeah, with Nick Young, we'll be on the show tomorrow. Y'all can address him. Yeah, he know. But this has been a bad. He was wearing my shoes and shit. He started wearing Jordans. Like, oh, no, no, no. You can't put Jordans on.

This has been. You go get some NBs, bro. You get some of them sketchy, sketchy. Just say NBs. NBs. Just NBs, bro. Yo. This has been another episode of Gilderoy to present our new dog fantasy.

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