Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena EXPLODES Over The Greatest Team In NBA History

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates The Greatest Team In NBA History as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew look into MORE wild tweets from Swaggy P, this time battling over his idea that the 2018 Golden State Warriors were the greatest team to ever play in the NBA. With teams like LeBron James' Miami Heat, Tim Duncan's San Antonio Spurs dynasty and even the modern Boston Celtics, there are plenty of squads that can lay claim to this title sparking a hostile Gil's Arena Debate. They also cook up a special Hibachi time reacting to another outstanding game from Caitlin Clark where the WNBA Superstar nabbed another triple double and continues to build a legitimate case to overtake A'ja Wilson as the league's MVP. Finally, No Chill Gil gives a SAVAGE reaction to Evan Fournier deciding to turn down a contract from the Washington Wizards and leave the NBA for an overseas league because he was so sick of losing before the crew reacts to Mark Cuban's comments over Klay Thompson's fit alongside Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving on the Dallas Mavericks. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick "SwaggyP" Young, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:03 Prophet P Promos His Book 0:07:13 Caitlin Clark Hibachi Time 0:15:39 Is CC The Most Impactful Rookie Ever? 0:21:53 Evan Fournier Leaves Wizards For Europe 0:52:59 Shaq's Worst Player Of All Time 0:58:43 Swaggy P Says KG Is Better Than Duncan 1:28:21 Greatest Team In NBA History Debate 1:58:03 MostlyFans 2:36:04 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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a future resources company. Welcome back It's happening now at BHP, a future resources company. football podcast now, Gil. I mean, you got to look You're practically obligated. Your favorite basketball turned football show. What kind of Raiders fans are y'all supposed to come with the matches? Matching. You come here, man. Matching.

Have like shit like popping out. Hey, matching shoes. Ready. Matching jerks. You know, turn jersey. It's our year. Super Bowl coming. Ain't you.

We're going to the playoffs for sure. Y'all still got the dude that did that song. Who? The football player who did the song about when his girl left. Oh, no.

What team he play on? They do got against the team, though. They got to do that with smoking in the interview. The white boy. Oh, he retired? He retired. After the song? After the music?

He retired. If our team belongs. This just occurred in his life. Oh, that's giant. Oh, and they were blowing in the interview. Who? On their team. The dude that forgot the white. Max Crosby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we got, you know, hitting's giant. Oh, and they were blowing in the interview just. Who? On their team. The dude that forgot to wipe the.

Max Crosby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, we got, you know, hitting that black. We in Vegas going crazy. Yeah, we do. That's what we do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, y'all are in Vegas.

They better be happy we not in LA. It would be no Inglewood. Ooh. We'll burn it down. Damn. From losing. Huh? From losing.

From winning. OK. What to say? Inglewood and I. We would have won a Super Bowl with Dre and him. Man. Oh, yeah, that'd be crazy. From losing, huh? No lose winning. Okay what the such But this is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy as always we got the legend and Kurt Rams Ready for action. Hey, man, they said this is a real helmet. That's the helmet you used to get when you was a kid.

Remember the 90s? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, if this was a real helmet, I mean. That's the retro. I don't give a fuck what, how good you was then. You getting fucked up by the niggas today. You weighed all of 105 pounds trying to be whatever this position is. That's the hell with OJ. Quarterback, kicker.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can't. No, this ain't fitting nobody, man. They did fit an airway. Oh, yeah, this wouldn't even fit his little son. He was saying, ouch. He was saying, ouch. We got NBA champion, Swaggy P,ik, young back in the building representing the Bears.

That's the talk. Best quarterback in the game besides Pat. Second best. Caleb Wood. Besides Pat Mahomes, second best. Fight on, fight on. That boy ain't took one stat. He ain't had to.

You see preseason? That don't matter. That nigga was throwing no looks. Oh, that's the one with the no looks? Oh. You see what he did in the game against Brandon? In the game against Brandon. And McKenzie seen what he did. He's a football player.

Y'all went undefeated in the preseason? Basketball player. Run that back. Okay. Nah, nah, he only played. That's trouble. He only played. Teams that go undefeated in the preseason don't be shitting the regular season.

He only played like five minutes. So you know. Fact. Yeah, like two touchdowns in like ten minutes. God, I don't say no. I'm a chief. That shit gonna be a lot different come Sunday. Nah you know. Fact. Yeah, like two touchdowns in like ten minutes. God, I don't say no. I'm a chief. That shit going to be a lot different come Sunday. Nah, be too deep.

You got the best wide receivers in the game. There's only one receiver and one quarterback in one day debut that started as a rookie. And that was like an 0-2. And that was David Carr. Everybody else, Ofer. One tie. Ofer. Ofer.

You probably want to lose in that particular situation. You want to follow those footsteps. David Carr. Everybody else, Ofer. One time. Ofer. Ofer. You probably want to lose in that particular situation. You want to follow those footsteps. But we got Kenya Martin back on the couch representing the Ravens. Lamar Jackson, you see that, eh? You're not putting this... You're just going to let it...

Okay. I'm going to just be honest with you. Double XL, that's probably a little too big. Yeah, it probably is. You think it's early 2000? We're bringing it back. That's what they wearing now, dude. They got baggy stuff.

XXL. Keys, what? X? XL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slim fit. Slim fit. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings in here representing Raider Nation.

Extra small. Let's go. Silver and black. Extra medium. Extra medium. Extra small. Let's go. Silver and black. That's medium. Excellent. Excellent. That's medium. That's medium. That's medium. Hostile territory.

Now, kids, wear baggy stuff now. It's coming back. I know it is. Get them 7X Pro gloves off the closet. Key word in that phrase, kids. We've got to stay young. Grown, OK? We respect it.

Say I'm grown. A bully? You been a bully all your life. No, I'm good. I tell you the truth. You used to bully people in high school? Bother nobody, man. Yeah, all right, but...

I didn't. I just... Hey, man. I just don't take no shit. That's all. I just opened that. They was talking about Rich. Rich Homie Kwame, but that wasn't... They said... This is you. First thing that opened up. You. What me? The Mystery of the Peep, book coming soon.

Mystery of the Peep, baby. You got a... I already know the mystery of the people coming soon mr. illa p baby you got a few already know the mystery of the people you don't leave me hanging alive I know what the mystery is best-selling authors I know what the mystery of the P what is the mystery of the P what is it cliff note me I can't get y'all I can't get everything is a book coming out oh yeah yeah yeah yeah Oh, for real? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah. You think you slick, yeah. Uh-huh. Swaggy, can you tell us what the book is about, though? It's just giving out game and little tips and everything to the world. You know, the new generation need a little help, so. So you're a good guide. He is the guide.

I'm like a prophet, you know. Prophet P. That's my new name. Hey, hey, hey. Today's going to be trouble. Today's going to be trouble. History of the P. So as a reminder for all the fans out there,

we have two viewing options for the show, our traditional version and a mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support us so we can stay on the air. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Mark Cuban says, Clay Thompson's life will be easier playing with Luka and Kyrie in the Mavs offense, but is

that facts or cap? Evan Fournier reportedly rejected a deal from the Wizards to play for European powerhouse Olympiacos. Would you rather be a role player in the league or the man overseas? And there have been a lot of great teams in the modern NBA, but which one is the cream of the crop? Nick, you have some thoughts you posted on Twitter recently.

So everybody in the frenzy, we are going to discuss. As always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code GIL, and you get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And with the NFL season starting tonight, Underdog is a place to play every day, dropping new promos for every day of the week. So the Travis Kelsey free pick is available all year until kickoff tonight, with other promos like

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Give me the answers, cliff notes. I'm writing a book, too. I'm writing a book on that because I've been secretly winning. I didn't want to share it. I'm shocking. Easy picks. I'm a son of easy picks. I've been heavy winning. I didn't want to share any drugs. I'm shocked ain't no cap. Easy picks. I'm a son of easy picks. I've been heavy in baseball now. Shout out, Shohei Mookie.

Hey, Dodgers will deliver for you most of the time. They didn't do it last night, but nonetheless, you got to get with that baseball. But yesterday on the show, Mr. B shared his pick-em entry for tonight's Ravens-Chiefs game. Today we'll take a look at Gil's entry. So, Gil, we got your higher higher lowers so you got roquan smith lower nine tackles and assists don't know about that one i don't even know who he is see

that's you got it as soon as i saw it i was like yeah gill that's yeah nine tackles and assists he might have nine solo. You got Harrison Bucker higher, 1.5 field goals made. That one could be a little tricky. I figure it's KC. He got to kick field goals. He's going to have to kick. Especially if a nigga

tackling nine times. Yeah, but anyway. He's got to be doing those shenanigans. For the kickers, like you go points. Like total points. It was 7.5.

I would do that. Field goals and extra points. But I was going to figure if it was 7.5, he has to kick at least two field goals. Like total points. It was 7.5. I would do that. Field goals and extra points. But I was going to figure if it was 7.5, he has to kick at least two field goals. Yeah, yeah. It'd be hard

if he's scoring touchdowns. He got to score eight touchdowns. I'm with you. So no, it is first game of the season. But you got Lamar Jackson lower 31.5 passing attempts. That's a good one.

That's a good one. He's going to be moving them legs tonight. Travis Kelsey, higher 57.5 receiving yards. And you also got Russell Wilson who plays later this week. Lower 16.5 rushing yards.

Why did you add Russell Wilson to this pickup slip, Gil? Only nigga I knew. I was late. I was getting tired of scrolling. God damn, what my team at? If you see... This is week one.

This is... Relax. Yeah, we'll get better. I seen some of that Kenyan stuff. I'm like, yeah, let me get some of these picks, man. Well, speaking of Kenyan picks, we got Kenyan picks right now. You got a hefty pick-em entry for tonight. Yeah, I did.

Which pegs out 246 times your money if it hits. So we have it here. You got Travis Kelsey higher.5 total yards. You used the underdog free pick'em. Gil, you did not. For summary, you took the Travis Kelsey higher 57.5 receiving yards, but not the higher on the.5. Not the easy

one. Not the layup. Just the single yard. You want the 40-footer. Yeah, I want the 40-footer. Okay. Makes sense. Chicks love the lower ball. Pull up three. Pull up three. You got Lamar Jackson higher, 219 passing yards. I'm with that. You got Mahomes higher,.5 rushing and receiving TD.

You think he's going to get one on the ground? A little sneak. Roquan Smith higher. So it's either one of those? Right, so if he passes one, that's... If he gets a rushing touchdown. Oh, he has to run it? Yeah, it's a sneak.

Or catch one on like a trick play. Okay, he has to run it? Yeah, it's a sneak. Or catch one on, like, a trick play. Okay, okay. It's a sneak. Okay. So, Roquan Smith hired 5.5 solo tackles. Jordan Love lowered 257.5 passing yards. They out there running right now. You don't think so?

No. Jordan Love? Not against Philly. In Brazil, though? No. In Brazil? In Brazil? Not against Philly.

Josh Jacobs hired. five rushing TDs Trevor Lawrence higher 250 point five passing yards and Tyreek Hill higher 98.5 receiving yards. So other than the the kelvin repick, which of these are you the most confident in? Can they shoot a They took it down. What the fuck? They're doing something in the back. Yeah, Josh Jacobs joint.

Jordan? Actually, Ro'Conn Smith, man. Like, that's five and a half solo tackles is easy. Hold on. Nah, I don't think Trevor Lawrence gonna get that much. Man, the most confident, they're the most confident about it. Yo, are you cheating off a Kenyan sheet right now? Yeah, Ro'Conn. Nah, nah, nah cheating off a Kenyan sheet right now? Yeah, for sure We are now I don't like don't do the Pat Holmes on it. Oh, hey, they got Lamar

So Lamar's at 21 point five so you get him at 19 did that yesterday? No, I did it today It went up two points I'm gonna two points since then. It's at 21 now 21.5 for the rush yard Okay, he got that one. Derrick Henry? Yeah, that's... 64.5? Yeah, I got another pick.

Yeah, I think he'll run more than that. They can't stop him or Lamar. I think they're going to win tonight. We are your favorite basketball-turned-football podcast for a reason. Okay, look, quick question. Travis Kelsey, first quarter, 10.5 receiving yards. Oh, this is a good one. Oh, this is a really good one.

I hate doing those because then if it don't hit, then the rest of the game is ruined. So you like to watch the end of the game? So this is a really good one right here. Stephon Diggs, five and a half receptions. He's got to get six. He's going to get that. Stephon Diggs.

He'll get that in the first half. What are you crazy as hell? What team are you playing for? You got to get five catches? Six. He's got to get six. He going to get that. Yes. Stephon D. He get that. See? What are you crazy as hell? What team are you playing for? Five catches? Six. He going to get six catches. DJ Drop? Absolutely.

I guess who they play. See, this look. Jordan Love. Jalen Waddle from Miami. Yeah. He needs 61 yards receiving. You think Tua's slinging that thing? Absolutely.

That Hawk Tua. Jason Saunders. He needs seven. He needs eight. Well, seven and a half kicking points. It's seven, so I picked the higher. Okay. Joe hard tour. Jason Saunders, he needs seven and a half kicking points. It's seven, so I picked the higher. Okay. Joe Mixon, he needs one rushing touchdown.

I picked the higher. It's.5, so I picked the higher. Matt Prater, kicker. He needs five and a half. Caleb Williams. That's all y'all put your money on. Josh Allen, go get two touchdown passes. Yeah, for sure. He needs one and a half. Caleb Williams. That's all y'all put your money on. Josh Allen, go get two touchdown passes. Yeah, for sure.

He needs one and a half. Kyler Murray, 31 and a half rushing yards. He scrambles a lot. Yeah. And Travis Etienne Jr., he needs one rushing touchdown. Okay, you think

he's getting that? Yeah, I did another pick. I did a couple pick threes. So we will be back on Monday. Where's Stephon Diggs, man? He played for Houston. We'll be back on Monday. We will recap all these pick, man? He played for Houston. We'll be back on Monday.

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Last year was cold. He better than him. Ooh! Stephon D. He better than him. I get all these right, $2,000? Stephon D. is the man. Be rich, Gil.

Stephon is cold. Dinner on Gil. He needed to get out of Buffalo. Yeah, he needed to, for sure. As always, we do these shows live on YouTube. If you can't watch them with us, we got an audio version available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Going to start this show with a special hibachi time.

Two touchdowns. Today, though. Oh, got the lighting. Special hibachi time. On Sunday, I mean. Yeah. So, we talked Kaylinaley Clark yesterday before her game yesterday But she made history earlier season by becoming the first rookie in the WM a to mess around and drop a triple-double

And on Wednesday, she did it again in a win against the spark. Yeah at home Indianapolis so Clark played the entire game finished with 24 24 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, and 3 steals. Man, man. Played like this, going out there, cooking. Makes a whole lot. I'm happy Lexi didn't have to beat her to see. She was here with us, enjoying a nice behind-the-back pass to Aliyah Boston as well. So Clark was running rebounds short of the triple-double late in the game.

Final possession, she secured the rebound. You see her cheesing with Cheezus on the court. Big smile on her face. The Fever are 7-1 post-Olympic break. They won five straight games. Currently three and a half games behind the Aces for the fourth spot with six games remaining. So two of their six remaining games are at home against the aces next week and tomorrow the fever have a home game

against the lynx and their mvp candidate nafisa collier so there's been a lot more steam in motion obviously asia is the front runner for the mvp right now caitlin balling ace is not doing as well as they did last season 21 and 12 Fever creeping on a come-up, but what does Kayla Clark need to do in these last six games to have a legit MVP case? You think it's impossible, yeah Just get the rookie of the year It's because because the Asia not to play anymore and she needs somebody else not to play in yeah, so she's not she's not second right now She's so in in the eyes right now. She's second

Actual play From she's fever creeping on a come-up creep, but there's players or stews. Oh, who's a yes? Who's that? So so the three the three right now, Asia obviously averaging 28 points, 12 rebounds, two assists, two steals, three blocks. The A's are 21, 12, fourth in the WNBA. And they're 21 and 12. Nafisa Collier is averaging 20 points, 10 rebounds, four assists, two steals, one block.

Lynx are 24-9. They're third in the WNBA right now, top in the West. Yeah. And Kayla Clark's averaging 19.6 rebounds, eight assists, one steal, one block per game. Fever, 18 and 16, though. It's averaging 19.6 rebounds, eight assists, one steal, one block per game. Fever, 18 and 16, though. It's not enough. 18 and 16?

Most wins since 2015. They got their playoff berth clinched. It's not enough. Six games left. Rookie of the year. Rookie of the year is that. Rookie of the year is hers.

I mean, it's good to keep her in there to get everybody excited. The hype of it is the football. If A's don't win it, then she's not second. She's not going to get it.

You're far in third. Even if you go 6-0 in the last one, that's a great argument. Two home games against the A's. That's a great argument. If she overperforms in those games. And Asia going to do what in those games? That's exactly right. Drop a white ticket, drop 30 people.

30 and 15 of them people both games and solidify it. So, no, I'm not. She didn't have to drop it. No, she's playing great. Don't get me wrong. She go for 50. She's going for James Harden. She's going to have to do that to win MVP.

You're still trying to make a comeback. She played the whole game and only had 24. I'm just saying you're trying to make a comeback. Is that it? Right? You know, you're not. She played the whole game and had 24. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, it's going to be something. It's a lot harder to do that shit. Crazy, crazy numbers to... That's hot, bro. I'm going to have to do it. The odds are shrinking. They're dwindling. Like, the defense is a lot better now.

So, if she get that hot, she's going to have to really get hot and last. And you're playing against Asia, too. Yeah. Which means she's going to try to prove a point to show people how far this race is. But for excitement, for media, for clicks, it sounds great. Absolutely.

It sounds amazing. Two MVP candidates going at it. They need it, too. They need it. Hell yeah, they need it. Yesterday on the show, Rashad said Caleb's the MVP. He's been in the group chat. He's been in the group chat. He's been in the group chat.

Of course he would say that. After the triple-double, letting everybody know what Tommy did. He's been faithful. That means something to her team was last, right, last year? I think they were second to last. They won the lottery and got the first pick. No, they're 18-16 right now. But what if they move up to, like, second?

They're 18-16. What if they end the season is second from last to second place They can't they can't jump that high they could probably in a perfect world. They want everything they could move to like fourth Right now that's I'm saying just rookie of the year From the second when you lay all the facts out That's great. That's great for her and her the team Rookie of the year. Yes. They were 10th last season.

So rookie of the year, yes. Hey, man, that's amazing. Absolutely amazing. Okay? Yes. It's amazing. Absolutely. That's how they rate his rounds.

Yeah, son. Yeah. It's amazing for her. Rookie of the year is... You see the Caitlin Clark post, though, from back when she was little? What'd she say? After a big game, raindrop, drop top.

All-out ball is non-stop, top. All our ball is nonstop. Bars? 2016. A bar. She black. What's that? What's she doing? Huh?

What's up with Angel? 25 double-double. She's been doing her thing. Rebounding record. Been out there cooking. Performing as well. But it was a tight race? What happened? I came out What?

Little article that came out of China Caitlin got some cold Nikes coming out You seen gonna be so we asked the chart the chat does Caitlin Clark have any shot to win WM MVP 60% of the chat Says no, but 40% think I'm just saying a week or two ago. That's what's up. Man, please. Hey, listen, 40%, that means they still invested.

That's all that matters. So let's spin it forward. So Clark's been balling on and off the court, running numbers up, been a part of several viewership and attendance records this season. W is seeing record merchandise sales this season. Has Kaitlyn Clark been the most impactful rookie, male or female, in the history of modern basketball? So that means she beat like Jordan and all that?

When is modern? What year is that? We will go 80 with Magic all the way to now. Modern or not. I'm going to say LeBron. LeBron still won. From 80? You think more to say LeBron. LeBron still won. From 80? You think more impactful than LeBron? No, no, no. She's not.

I'm saying LeBron's number one. She's in the top five. That means Jordan is in it. She's in the top, I think. That's fine, but Jordan didn't. LeBron was the number one pick. I'm just saying. Oh, you mean rookie season.

Just for one. Just this. Jordan changed the game in rookie season with shoes and all that. Nah, nah, nah. LeBron. He dropped it during and all that. LeBron. He dropped the Jordan 1s, bro. LeBron hype was crazy, bro. It wasn't the Jordan 1s.

As far as impact of what it is, I think she is. She is. Look, we know LeBron. When LeBron came in the league, obviously as a rookie. He's top five, though. As a rookie. LeBron James was crazy rookie year. Just think about what, listen.

Just think about what the WNBA has been. Right? Just think about what the NBA has been. For viewership, sales, WNBA dropped to what? 500%, 600%, whatever it is? Because it's like jumping from, you know, it's jumping from kiddie pool to six feet. I mean, but it ain't impactful.

It's a big jump. It don't matter. It don't matter. It ain't impactful to our life, though. It ain't it ain't impactful. It's a big jump. It don't matter. It don't matter. It ain't impactful to our life, though. It ain't impactful to my life. It's about impact. It ain't impactful. To who?

To the women's game? It don't matter. You're talking about the game. You're talking about somebody that impact all. She impacted women. That game. No, she... LeBron impacted everything, women and men.

No, the impact. What she had for us, viewership, the numbers don't lie. I don't know. You wrote the merchandise down. The merchandise, the numbers don't lie. Attendance. That's 7 million Nike deals don't lie either. The numbers don't lie.

That's 70 million Nike deals don't lie either. 100 million. 100 million out of high school. And I get the call. That don't mean impact. It's the impact around the whole game. She ain't impacting us. We don't care.

That's you. Right, us. Men basketball. That's you. Right, so that's not an impact. That's you. That's you. Impact to women's basketball.

Who buys shoes? Who supports shoes? Impact to women's basketball. You're saying LeBron... Who buys shoes? ...is the impact? Come on. Wait till her shoe come out.

LeBron? Wait till her shoe come out. It's different. It's... Wait till her shoe come out. It's different. It's to... Wait till her shoe come out. That's fine. All girls are wearing that. All girls.

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white girls walking around or black. Come on, let's just call it what it is, man. What I'm saying is they're going to support and the impact, they're watching the games now.

They're watching the games. The viewership is up because now they have somebody that looks like them who they can be like, you can be her. Right? She's not there yet.

She's wearing a patho there. But it's not there yet. She's not there yet. I see what you're saying, but you got to remember. She's not there yet. She's wearing a path holder. But it's not there yet. She's not there yet. I see what you're saying, but you got to remember. She's not there yet. If it was an F and it's going in a C, I get it. What did LeBron do to the NBA? The W was so low that her little impact seems like it's great.

But it's not a little impact. But it's not a little impact. That is. No, overall, for the WNBA in sports, it's not a little impact. But it's not a little impact. That is. No, overall, for the WNBA in sports, it's not a little impact. For the WNBA? It's major. For them. Talking about sports, period.

For them. You look at sports as a whole. He said sports as a whole. What rookie has had a big... So what did LeBron do to make the... So people was viewing the NBA down here, and they started viewing the NBA. People when LeBron came in?

Yeah, for sure. Yes, yes, for sure. That's a fact. That's a fact. LeBron had more than this. Read the numbers. Read the numbers. We can look the numbers up.

The jump wasn't that big. See, that's what I'm saying. We can look the numbers up. You're talking about an ocean. An impact. So somebody coming in an ocean, no matter how big this type is, it doesn't matter. It doesn't splash.

It doesn't matter. If a fat man jumps in a house pool, she's a big fish. Right? A big fish in a house pool, she's still a big fish. But she's still a big fish. But we don't know who's bigger. But she's still a big fish.

If a fat man jumps in a house pool, the water overflows. If a fat man jumps in an ocean, there's no wrinkles, so we don't know how big. Therefore, we go what we do know then. But it's still a big fit. If a fat man jumps in the ocean, there's no wrinkles, so we don't know how big. Therefore, we go what we do know then. But it's still a... But the impact is still those pools. But how big is she without the injuries though?

So therefore, we go with the impact. How big is she without the injuries? So you said the NBA is the ocean, right? So you put LeBron in there, there's no ripples. She's not this by herself. There's no ripples. Yes, it is. It is ripples.

But even if the ripples, we don't know how impactful this is. Therefore, but we know how impactful she has been. We know this. In real time. The pool is small. It don't matter the size of the pool. She definitely didn't do it by herself.

We're not talking about her impact. We're not saying she did it by herself. Her impact don't come without injuries. Yes, it does. Doing this in her face. Yes, it does. No. No. Yes, it does.

She's still going to break the record. No. No. She's still going to break the record. We wouldn't have cared that much. She wouldn't have cared that much. So she wouldn't have cared that much. She just would have been like...

So answer the question, Nick. God damn. She wasn't going to break the record? She wasn't going to break the record. She was. Yes, she was. Why she going to break the scoring record? Yes and no. Yes, she was. Yes, she was going to make the scoring record? Yes or no? Yes. Yes, she was. So therefore, the attention was going to, because this record has been there forever, right? Right.

So the attention was going to be there. OK. She was going to be the number one pick. So therefore, all the stuff was going to come with her. It didn't matter. Fredette broke the record. Did we care about Fredette? Yes.

Fredette broke the record. Jimmy Fredette broke a record, too. Still going to be there. Jimmy Fredette broke the record. You care about that? What record? She didn't care about that until it became black and white. She broke the all-time foreign record

of college basketball. But Nick, you care about it. Black and white. That's all everybody was talking about. She broke the all-time score of college basketball. You don't. Nobody cared about that. You don't care, man. If the world did, they'd be watching it. They'd be watching it. They wouldn't be struggling.

If the world did, they wouldn't be struggling. Who's struggling watching it. They wouldn't be struggling. If the world did, they wouldn't be struggling. Who's struggling? The WNBA. No, they're not right now. Why? Because of her. And what was my point? Caitlyn Clark and fucking Angelina.

No, it's not about Angelina. So I wasn't watching it until then. I wasn't watching it until then. This is about, this is literally about just two people. LeBron came by himself. LeBron came by himself. LeBron came by himself. It's still a fact. LeBron came by himself. LeBron came by himself. LeBron came by himself.

He came with Melo. LeBron came by himself. We saw him do this. Against O'Gill. Everybody wants to buy a Hummer. No, what I'm saying is it's hard to quantify because one follower is one smaller versus

one bigger, so this impact is greater because the room is smaller. That's what we're saying. That's the argument. That's the question. That's the fucking question. Not really. The question he just asked was that. Goddamn.

You can't put the NBA and WNBA on the same level of viewership. The question he asked... Okay, if the most jerseys were sold in the WNBA was $100,000, right? And she sells a million. Or was it? Right? And she sells a million. And the ceiling here is $10 million, and he sells nine.

Yeah, his impact is way more bigger than this, but because the bar was so low, yes, it's big, but it's hard to know whose impact was bigger. So you're going to answer the question, or you want to come up with your own question? Impact between each other? What I'm saying is... So you want to come up with your own question? No. Social media was different, too. Yeah, social media was different, too.

So therefore, impact is greater then because of social media? I don't know. Y'all approving my fucking point for it. Everybody knew LeBron without social media. I know. You approve my point for it. Everybody knew LeBron without social media. But it's around now.

I don't know. It's around now. And its impact is still big. It's around now. And its impact is still Everybody knew LeBron without social media. But it's around now. Oh, no. It's around now. And its impact is still big. It's around now. The impact is still big. We're talking about rookie year. DJ gets a million dollars. We're talking about rookie year here.

If this rookie year went up. Y'all want to answer the question, y'all want to answer y'all own question. No. Okay, well, no. That's the answer. Okay, well, no. My answer is LeBron. Okay, that's your answer then.

She's not. Yeah, she's not. But if you look at the numbers, the numbers don't fucking lie. She's not bigger. So we talked to LeBron. You guys were in the league when Yao Ming came in. Did you notice

a sizable difference in just how the game was? You know, we talk about Yao making it global, bringing that Chinese market into the game. That's hard to bring his impact because we're not over in China.

But it's different. We noticed it when it came to the voting for All-Star and shit, right? Okay. That changed the landscape where Yao was like, damn, Shaq out here busting ass, but damn, Shaq coming off the bench. shit, right? Okay. Like, that changed the landscape where y'all were like, damn, Shaq out here

busting ass, but damn, Shaq coming off the bench. Right, it's that. He's off the bench? Huh? Yeah. Damn.

Y'all was holding in. But that's just... But it's... But how do you... It's hard. That's what I'm saying. It's hard. That's just crazy, though.

But see, that impact is global. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. We had him in it. It's hard. We had him in it. It's just hard. It's just crazy, though. But see, that impact is global. That's what I'm saying. We had him in it. We had him in it. It's just hard. The numbers over there, they support what they're watching. If you look at the numbers, but just far as here,

for what she has done for the W, I feel her impact has been great. I understand what you're saying because her jump for that sport, for women, she's a big fish, and things had to instantly change. It's no different than MJ in, like, 98 when you couldn't fly him commercial no more. So it was forced to say, everybody go private.

Rules change. And that's... That's, yes, because she has... Yeah, she's a small... She has to change the game. WNBA is small. Yeah, WNBA is small. I that's... Yes, because she has... She has to change the game. WNBA is small. I'm agreeing with you. Absolutely. Yes. But I'm not equating that, right? I'm just looking at what she has done as far as just

being a rookie, the viewership, the sales, all that shit that they didn't have before. You just look at the spike it's been. It could have been 10 jersey sales this year, and if it was 100 the next year, it's... You know what's going to happen? You know what's going to happen?

No, no, no. No, what's going to happen is... We're having a serious conversation here. That is a serious conversation. We're having a sports conversation here. We're having a sports conversation here. I said we're having a serious conversation. This is serious. We're having a serious sports conversation here. We're having a sports conversation here. I said we're having a serious conversation. This is serious.

Who has the biggest impact? We're having a serious sports conversation. Bill Kardashian has the biggest impact. We're having a serious sports conversation. Rookie season. Rookie season. The problem is this. After the show is when we're going to really find out

because we didn't have social media and no one pumped it up. We're going to find out what LeBron real impact was because everybody's going to go to numbers. I know Quick, it wasn't Quicken Loan Arena back then. It was the Gordon? Gooden? Gunn Arena. It was 11,000.

They averaged 11,000 before he got there. The year he got there, they were at 18,000, 19,000 per game. And then they went up every year after that. So we won't know his impact until somebody just goes to the reception. They renovated that bitch in the summer. When did he leave Cleveland?

What happened to him? No, we're talking about rookie season. I'm talking about the impact. I'm talking about rookie season impact. We were talking about LeBron. LeBron came in with a lot of hype, but I don't feel like it was. Nick, what would you like to talk about? What would you like to talk about, Big Nick?

Nick, what you want to talk about? You want to talk about leaving? What you want to talk about? It's not right to me. I'm saying you want to talk about what? It's not right to me. You want to talk about leaving? What you want to talk about? It's not right to me. I'm saying you want to talk about what? It's not right. You want to talk about leaving? What you want to talk about?

What are we talking about? Pay the card? What are we talking about? Rookie. Rookie. All right. Rookie bringing businesses when he did. All number one.

And when he left, everything shut down. We're not talking about that. Just Ricky. Just the Ricky. We're not talking about that. Coming into the league. I mean, I wasn't living that, but I don't know Magic's impact here. What about Magic's impact, rookie year?

So Magic had an extreme impact his rookie year, but the NBA was still tape-delayed back in those days prior to Bird and Magic's arrival. But the last tape-delayed game aired in 1986. It was him and Bird. That impact, I mean, I don't know. In the 80s, I mean, you could tell us. You know, they were turning up in the 80s.

Right? It was more race, too. It's either the 80s. I mean you could tell us thing, you know, they were turning up Right, it was it was right. It was more ready to see that you with his race races It's gonna be Speaking Boston Wasn't he breaking But more impactful but more Jack was breaking rims and all that stuff. I mean, motherfuckers was going like little kids wanted to go to the game because they thought they was witnessing Godzilla coming through the

motherfucker town, breaking the rims. I know his impact was big. No one did the numbers back then to know. So we don't know. And then I know by the time Braun came in, like when people do this,

they talk about, well, viewership is down. Well, CBS TV changed. So, you know, if you look back in like those early 90s, like I mean 90s all the way, like the 98, 9,

it was CBS. So you're talking about 11,000 views, 11 million views, 14 million views. And then overnight when they switched to TNT and what's the name? It was a two million view. What about AI?

People didn't have fucking cable. What about AI? It was really good. So to your point about LeBron, the Cavs were 29th of 29 teams in attendance a year prior to LeBron. So the viewership was, they were ranked last. No, in terms of attendance, 29th of 29 teams in attendance a year prior to LeBron. So the viewership was, they were ranked last, right?

No, in terms of attendance, 29th of 29 teams. So they was ranked last. A year prior to LeBron coming to the league. The next year, LeBron's rookie year, they jumped to ninth. Yeah. Great.

But to your point. But as I said, we don't know. We don't know across the board. To your point. We were at the Fever Sparks game in Crypto.com Arena. We call it Stapleson. A roll game.

Kobe was in that motherfucker, though. So I'm just talking about Impact sold out. You know what? When you talk about just her as a unit, we have to say yes. We do have to say yes. Here's why.

When you think about anybody else, LeBron and all of them, we're coming to see him, but he didn't turn no crowds Everybody wanted to see him fail is this knowing what I'm saying is he didn't turn a crowd Everyone came remember. She's most hated to she wasn't she was hated by her peer like They love it When she came in she she these people when she goes to Las Vegas, double champs, they're still chewing for her.

I don't matter. She's going to. Moving to bigger arenas. When Kobe coming to town, when Kobe coming to our town, it's a Kobe crowd. It wasn't a Laker crowd. It was a Kobe crowd, right? They didn't want LeBron to take over Jordan's team. Right?

Let's talk about that. Kobe, as he became more of a star in the league, what was that like on the road? On the road, it was... You see the jerseys everywhere? It was a Kobe crowd. Was it Ovation for Kobe? Think about it. He played in Denver.

I played in Denver, nigga. He played in Denver, where he was hated. That's the worst place ever. He was hated in Denver. Think about it. That shit was crazy. How the fuck can you turn a crowd into a place that they don't even... They don't like you.

There's more Kobe jerseys in that bitch than anything. Okay, and that's... Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Kobe was voted into the All-Star you. Okay, that's yeah, absolutely I mean It's an all-star game to buy the fans right rookie season was ever really season. I mean He's impact was little Laker boys. It's gonna we're gonna Like even Kobe right him being drafted his swag You're gonna have to just do the numbers but but we can say we can literally see. Yeah.

Nah. You go against her, damn near ruined. I'm going with the... You know what I mean? When you go against her, you're damn near ruined. You're damn near ruined? Ruined. Oh, yeah, you and Twitter beef. Same thing?

You fighting for your life. No, no. Your thumb's hurting the motherfucker. You say something that her fan base, like... You know what the problem is too because we wasn't in college we didn't see this impact coming this was already a tidal wave people don't realize before she stepped into this league she was already a three-time gold medalist for youth she was the youth gold medalist three-time gold medalist, right? She led college in scoring.

Freshman, sophomore, junior, she was AP this, AP that, already before she even ran into Angel Reese. She was already that. Her and Angel Reese. And nobody knew. You know what I'm saying? Nobody knew. You know what this was?

Angel Reese. College basketball. Angel Reese. Nobody knew. Angel Reese. That's not big enough. That's not big enough. That's not big enough. Let me explain to you then.

Okay. She led women's basketball in scoring and assists as a rookie, as a sophomore. She was already a titan. Angel Reese went to Maryland. She was a top five girl, but she had a horrible first two years there, right? So her name fell down. When she went to LSU as a junior, she got her name back.

The antics, the winnings, she overturned that team like that. So her name got back. She was popping. So what happened is you got these two forces beating each other. And what happened is this force, no one actually liked.

She was the enemy. No one liked Kaitlyn Clark like that, right? Because of the antics, the shit she did. She was one of those girls, right? She was damn near John. She was motherfucking John Wick, damn near. And she got beat by Angel Reese. What the hell are you talking about?

That's what it, John Wick got killed and this became the hero. The hero to the boogeyman. That's what's what it... John Wick got killed, and this became the hero. The hero to the boogeyman. That's what ended up happening. John Wick got killed. John Wick got killed. She led scoring all four years in college. Think about the person. Think about what we're talking about.

A girl who's... She's torturing everybody. She just tortured South Carolina by herself. She was hated. She wasn't loved like that. She was hated. She wasn't loved like that. She was hated. Angel Reese dethroned that. No, she wasn't hated.

You didn't even know her. I knew her because she did this shit. She was doing this to everybody. She was doing this shit. Think about it. South Carolina, the girl is shooting. You're talking about before that. Before that.

I know. She did that to South Carolina. And so Angel Reese did that to her. Right? So wouldn't you listen? Yeah. So Angel Reese. The back to her. South Carolina, the girl is shooting. She turned her to South Carolina. But you didn't know. And so Angel Reese did that to her, right? So wouldn't you listen? Yeah, so Angel Reese, South Carolina, the girl in shoes, she turned her back, boom. No one liked that. Like, oh, what the fuck are you doing?

She became an enemy. So what happened is Angel Reese came in and she did this to the person who did it to everybody. That's what ended up happening. John Wick got killed and the smartest thing Kaitlyn Clark did was not become John Wick no more. She became the nice, nice white girl that come in here and shoot shots and that's who she became. So then she became like a victim to this. her image her image changed Overnight and for what is word?

You can't see me apparently I Haley van lifted an interview. She was doing it to her way coach She wasn't doing it to other teams. So this was a thing between Caitlin and I think the Iowa strength and conditioning I can't feel my face Yeah But hitting them with that But he got interpreted the way the angle of the camera looked like she was doing it to Haley Van Liff and the Louisville squad when in reality that's not.

But obviously everybody ran when they created their narrative. Angel hitting back with her. I didn't feel my place. But as I said, but she was already an entity, right? She ran into,

like these girls played high school, you know, high school through each other. Man, what the fuck? So they made each other, they made each other famous. But LSU, she was, Angel Reese was, like Angel Reese was what she was now, but she was more of antics, right?

So she had her own popularity, right? So they both piggybacked each other. Because of LSU basketball. Huh? Because of LSU basketball. Because of LSU basketball. Because of LSU basketball. What that collage did was gave it gave Clayton, uh, Kaylin Clark a chance to basically

reface herself. So she went from damn near being like a, uh, Dylan Brooks? She was a Dylan Brooks type that just scored on everybody. And then once she got hit with her own medicine, you never seen her do this again. She never did it it again and she became the Steph Curry And that's all that happened

Now you got now you got these two forces coming into the WNBA and the WNBA was smart enough or media was smart enough to know Put them back together Attach them put him out glaring bird. All right, don't let him be two different entities. If, listen, if they can have Angel Reese go 30 and 30 and 30 and 30, oh, it'd be great for the league, because then you get to put her back in rookie of the year, then you get to go back and forth. But the reason, but she's falling off,

so is Caitlyn Carter selling by herself right now. That's all. Still averaging the double-double. I'm gonna say, yeah, she's still killing. She's still killing, but it ain't hooping. It ain't that, but it's still falling. If it was winning. Feel so good.

Just if it was a dude in the NBA averaging 13 and 13 as a rookie, you motherfuckers would be like, man, shit. This boy, let's not do that, man. Yeah, let's not do that. Let's not do that. If. Yeah. Let's not do that. Let's not admit it. For sure. For rookie action, 13 and 13. I didn't get 100 or something. Right?

Max. Right? He maxed for sure. Maxed out right now. He know he ain't got it. 13 and 13, we praising him. Like, shit, he the next fucking shit. His boyfriend a B.

Yeah. She just got to work on it. She got to get with somebody to learn how to finish. Yeah. She just got to work on it. She got to get with somebody to learn how to finish. She struggles around it. I think the problem, too, is the sky struggles right now. Yeah, her feet work is bad. The sky's struggling right now. The fever started at one and eight.

At that point, everybody's like, oh, see, she's not ready. Now they're seven of their last eight after this Olympic break. Clinched a playoff spot. Oh, Reeves not in a playoff hunt no more? You know, they're teetering. They're teetering. They're trying to stay in contention.

But it is what it is. So, obviously, an apples-to-apples comparison between a WNBA player and an NBA player is going to be difficult. Yeah. But just from what we've seen with our own eyes. Yeah. We were at that game. You know what I mean?

And we always go back to that, but. Like, it's going to be. You know, walking out there was like. It's going to go down. It's going to get better. Yeah. It's going to go down as like when Magic Johnson came into the NBA and kind of like changed it.

Right? And then when Jordan came in, then he came in and had signature shoes come into the game. And that's the... Yeah. So... Juju is the Jordan of this, right? Juju, three years later, come in three, four years later from Magic and Bird come in in 79, right?

Yep. Mm-hmm. 2024. Here come Mike. Three years. Here come Mike. And now here come Juju. Mm- comes you you and you go take this shit She's gonna benefit like somebody like juju. I might like you do it. Come on. Here come air

I might know somebody like juju and age they're gonna benefit because Caitlin Clark has broken open the door Her and angel broken open the door so now in it because they're both battling two different things One is battling the game one of battle on the social media They're both they're both doing something that wasn't done before Juju is the package that bridges both of them because she has to look and she has game Right, so she's gonna be the the complete one out of the two out of the two See the workout she was doing the other day will feel yeah So how do you say impact if you can't really mention one without the other day with Phil. Yeah. All left-handed shit. Yeah. So how do you say impact if you can't really mention one without the other?

You can if you want. You can if you want to. You could have just... You just could have talked about... You could have just talked about Magic Johnson if you wanted to. No. But...

But... You look crazy. A smart man says, hey, if I talk about this one, I get clicks, and then this group is going to be mad. I'm going to talk about this one. This clicks and then this group is gonna be mad I'm gonna talk about this one this group gonna be mad I get both groups I like red and blue I'm Snoop Dogg I want to do songs with crips and

bloods. The guy that should have won rookie of the year? I don't even know how many TV... And who is that General McKinney? Because LeBron James won Rookie of the Year. Who was the player who should have won? Melo Anthony should have won Rookie of the Year. Okay, I'm going to say who was the player who should have won. You think so? His team went to the playoffs. His team was better, though.

And he averaged more points. But... Wait, did they go to the playoffs the year before? He averaged more points. He didn't average more points. He didn't average more points. Yeah, he did. I think Melo did.

I think Melo averaged 21. I think Melo probably averaged 21. No. I'm telling you, Melo's inaged 21. We can look it up. We can look it up, Nick. Before you say no, we can look it up. Don't say no. I think one made the playoffs and one averaged one point. So...

Carmelo Anthony averaged 21. Yeah. 21-6. 21-6. 21-6 and what, three? Who was on that different team with him? And then Bron averaged 25-6. 21-6. 21-6 and what, three? Who was on that different team with him? And then LeBron averaged 25-5.

And LeBron averaged 20. Yeah. So basically, 21-6. Both of them averaged 21-6. But what's the actual... Nuggets went to the playoffs, so therefore, Melo should have got the edge. Yeah. Who was on his team?

Mello. Who was his starting five, though? Dre Miller was the point guard. Vo Leonard. Who was? Vo Leonard. Vo Leonard. Second schooler.

What's your Vo Leonard? Marcus Camby. That's a discussion. What year did Mello came as a? Oh, wait. Wow. They came in 2003, 2004? Yes.

So the Denver Nuggets won 17 games the year before. They drafted Melo, won 43 games. So you mean to tell me? Damn. Huh? In the West. Let me just go. Come on.

I thought they was going to come. We're not going to let... Wait, what? So at worst, listen. At worst, it should have been code. It should have been code. Oh, and then, well, yes. And then.

But look. Then. What time of the game did they win the year before? 17 games. Yes, they did. And then 35. So therefore. So Melo basically won all across the board on that one.

So why don't they bring that up a lot? People don't bring it up. Because people don't want to talk about it, man. Who's on that team, though? Huh? You got to look at the team, though. Look at his own team. People don't want to talk about it. 21 and 6 with the got to look at the team, though. Look at his own team. People don't want to talk about it.

21 and 6 with the playoffs. OK, LeBron team. I'm going to tell you this. Don't win rookie of the year, or get a trophy. At least we both get one. Yeah, because they done this. Grant Hill and Jason Kidd. Yeah.

Yeah, Grant Hill and Jason Kidd won co-rookie of the year. I remember, yeah. They had Carlin Boozer. No, they didn't. Nigga, they did have that team. I want to play with them. They kept that teamzer. No, they didn't. Nigga, they did have that team. I want to play. They got that team talk. I'm pretty...

His rookie year? Yeah. 2003. For sure. We can look at the roster. Because Andre Miller went from there to there. We can look at the roster. Look at the roster.

I want to see. LeBron's roster? Yeah, look at the Denver Nuggets roster. I know. Bolin started at the two. Dre was at the point. You got Chris Anderson. You got Carmelo Anthony. John Barry. Okay. Ryan. Ryan. I know vola to start at the two drapery You got Chris Anderson. He's got a permanent. I need John Barry. Okay, Ryan Ryan bow. No Earl Watson Shout out Earl Watson Marcus can be good. Did you do Michael doliac Ellis Francisco trash?

Earl Boykin Von Litter Andre Miller you were a boy. Good job. You're paying Jange, Niccolo Schizovilli. Yes. Yeah. He went fifth. Schizovilli. Andre Miller?

Niccolo Schizovilli was fifth pick in the draft. Didn't play. And Jeff Topange. That wasn't a bet. They were two-year players. I like Jeff Topange. He went to the SC. He went to the SC, I know.

Compton legend. Nice. Could he play? Absolute butt. Shout out to Compton legend. Could he play? Absolute butt. Shout out to Compton. I had to throw him in there. Dre and Vo.

Dre and Vo was like that. Vo shoot the shit out of it. Now, what's the name's team is? Oh, they was young as hell, though. Okay. But he had El Gauskas. All-star. He had Ricky Davis. Yeah. Tricky. He was averaging 20. Ricky averaged 20. I want to play with LeBron. He had Darius Miles.

Let's see. Kevin Ali. Shout out Jeff McGinnis. Wait, is this a rookie seed? No, this ain't a rookie seed. No, it's not. It is a rookie seed. DeJuan Wagner. You ain't gonna come and take my spot. Yeah, DeJuan Wagner. Tony Battee. Matin Cleese. Sick team coming in.

Sick, man. That's a... He had a sick job. Yeah, I told you he had a... Jelani McCoy. I don't know if he was playing then. Shout out Jelani. Chris Mims.

My... I had a team like that myself. That's a team. Yeah, Jelani only played two games. I had a team. I had a team. I had a team. I had a team like that myself. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell.

Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell.

Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. Aaron Newell. All of them got traded that year. Because they was doing bad. No, because they didn't want to play with LeBron. No, they didn't want to play with LeBron.

Wasn't it Andre Miller had to be the starting point guard on his team? No, he wasn't the starting point guard. They never played together. His first game against Sacramento, Andre Miller wasn't playing. Yeah, he didn't ever play together. So he came, he got, you're fucking right, because me and him was free agents together. Yeah, Dre went to Denver.

Yeah, he went. So who was the starting point guard I have no idea that whole team got traded because I know there's miles LeBron was at the two LeBron was at the shooting guard when he came into the NBA because I played I played against him towards the back end of the season yeah he was because I played against my own 31 games I believe towards the because that's what, LeBron would have led his team in assists every year if Jeff McGinnis didn't come in at the half. So, LeBron is basically 19.5.

It wasn't Mateen. Kevin. Kevin Olley. Kevin Olley. Kevin Olley could have started. Back up. He started a few games, but he only started like seven games. So, was LeBron at the one?

Ricky and Darius Miles, Carlos Boozer. Who was the first? And Gauscus. And Gauscus. Was that the lineup? It might sound accurate. Yeah. So let me see.

LeBron, Ricky, Gauscus. Darius Miles and Darius Miles. Darius Miles. That's four. Darius Miles. Boozer. Boo Darius Miles is the second year. Boozer. That's when they made the playoff. LeBron, Ricky, Darius.

Oh, no, Darius Miles because he was talking. Damn, so LeBron came in at the point, basically. So they had, yeah. No, that's why he was guarding. Yeah. So LeBron at the one. So it was LeBron, Ricky, Darius Miles, Carlos Boozer, El Galski. That's a nice-

Nigga, what? And not make the playoffs? Man, that whole team didn't want him on there. It don't matter what they wanted. What does it do? It's that bad. Who's they coach at? You're not going to play with them.

The game-starting lineup was LeBron, Ricky, Boozer. If somebody don't like you, you're not going to play with them like that. I think Paul Silas was there. Think about that line. Look how big that line. That's why I said that. That's why. Because when I watch films, I was watching.

You know why? Because Darius Miles came out before LeBron got there. That's why. Because when I watch films, I was watching. You know why? Because Darius Miles came out before LeBron got there. You got to make the tease. There ain't no 18-year-old coming in and playing over me. Come on, man. I was hating on him from the start. And what happened? And they all got traded. And he started balling, and that nigga did one of these.

Thank you. Got them the fuck out of there. That was my thing about the Kalen Clark thing. Hey, I'm sorry, Fever. If y'all don't get on the same page, one of those is about to happen. One of them looks at the bitch, get her to fuck out of there. That's where you at now.

Same thing with Angel Reese. You have a problem over there? Get the fuck going out of there. They got too much power. They got too much power. And that's where LeBron is. Everybody who says some shit about him, the fuck going out.

How do you feel when you come to that team? When your teammates are already saying that about you? It don't matter. No, he felt it. Y'all ain't going to be here long. He felt it. Oh, yeah. Don't worry.

All that. Y'all ain't going to be here long. Y'all ain't going to be here long. Don't worry about it. Once they see, oh, this nigga's the king, the franchise is like, we got you. Don't even worry about it. We got you, boss.

All our bad, our bad, our bad. Well, let's keep this thing moving. So we've got to talk about some news on the NBA side. After 12 seasons in the league and a solid showing at the Paris Olympics, helping France get a silver medal, Evan Fournier decided to take his talents overseas, agreeing to a two-year, $4 million-plus deal with Greek powerhouse Olympiacos. That's good money.

So Fournier was traded to the Pistons at the deadline, and this offseason they declined his $19 million team option. This past season he averaged seven points, two rebounds, and 1.5 assists, 32 games, playing 18 minutes per game. So according to reports, Fournier turned down a two-year deal with the Wizards because he wasn't interested in playing for a losing team. There's also reports that he wasn't interested in taking on a mentoring role either, similar to what he had do with the Pistons

for the second half of the season after the Knicks traded him. So Fournier arrived in Greece this week and was given a hero's welcome by Olympiacos fans. He posted this on his social. See who dead is! See who dead is! Whoop dead is!

See who dead is! See who dead is! Oh. They took whoop dead is. Oh shoot. They Grinchified it. Oh my fault, I thought they were saying who there it is. They Grinchified it. Oh, I thought they were saying who there it is. They took it and made it Greek. Whoop, Dan. Now, don't know for sure, but if he did go to the Wizards,

I don't think he's getting that type of reception when he pulls up to D.C. I would have never went to the Wizards, neither. He might have got robbed. Fuck the Wizards. Did Fournier make the right decision leaving the league to go play overseas? Hell yeah. Nick, no! It would have been his 13th season in the league.

He played 12 seasons in the NBA. Wait, how old is he? So Fournier is... Is he like 30 years old? What's the vet minimum for him? Like three? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What was the vet minimum? It's three.? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What was the vet minimum?

The vet minimum is three. It's three. Three, two? It would have been around like, yeah, three, two, three-ish. But he already getting paid still? No, they declined it. No, they declined it. So he had that 19 mil coming, I got to hurt.

Well, he only 32? 31. I mean, well, he played 13 years. Oh, that's young. Played 12 years in the league. Yeah, I mean, he good. He good. Early in the month.

I know, I thought he was like... Came in at 20. Yeah, I mean, he good. He good. He's an early man. Early than the motherfucker. I know. I thought he was like, wait, a mentor role at 32? That's tough. Yeah. For the wizard. Yeah. Now this is my upset. I'm not mentoring the wizard.

Come help a wild cool guy. You got to watch Jordan Poole shoot that. You got to watch Jordan Poole shoot that shit. Listen, nah, I ain't. I've been in that motherfucker. He can still be a real big key part. Yeah. But for like a year or something. That's why I was questioning the motherfucking Nah, I ain't. I mean, that motherfucker, he can still be a real big key part. Yeah.

But... For like a... That's why I was questioning motherfucking Valetrunas going there. Like, what the hell was you thinking, boy? Don't worry. What he's into play is go there, show he can still really ball out, get the numbers, then come back. Why the Lakers didn't get him?

What? They'll be good off the bench or something. Facts. The Lakers still got him. California? Yeah. We need help. Who we got?

We got Christian Woods! See what I mean? We got Christian Woods! Woods! Yeah, he... Hey, y'all seen that thread he put out too. And we got who? What's the point guard?

We got Christian Woods, dog. We got the energy of the shovel man. He great yard shift coming in, boy. I like Woods, though. I know, as long as he come in, put the shovel in the training camp like he did to the house, I'm all for it. That's probably $4 million tax-free, too. Who?

Over there. My next question, obviously, he would have had to be on the bottom feeder in the league. You go to Olympiacos, the European powerhouse. They've made the EuroLeague Final Four past three seasons. So would you rather be a role player on a bottom feeder in the league

or the man overseas? I'm from the States, so I play overseas. He ain't trying to go yet. I ain't trying to go. I think for me, because my career started overseas, I would go back. But for me, because I started as a professional. Hell no, boy.

Seems like a lot of guys here ain't really trying to do all that. Don't they play from 10? I would go back. But for me, because I started. I'm a professional. Hell no, boy. I can't imagine. Seems like a lot of guys here ain't really trying to do all that. Don't they play from 10, from August to June? Yeah, they play 10 months. They play 10 months? But they only play three games a week.

It's 10 months. Yeah, it's 10 months. Only three games a week. It's three, well, yeah, it's three games a week if you're in the EuroLeague. If you're in the EuroLeague. If you're not in the EuroLeague,

it's tough out there. And they do two days, right? Huh? Two days, right? It was two days, yeah. Yeah, they still got their hard training camps. And plus, they be in top four. It all depends, man, because I don't know how you can... I don't know if you can...

This energy right here looks different. It makes you feel good. But he from overseas, though. What I'm saying, for somebody who's like... I played in the Pistons last year. Yeah. I played in the Pistons. I'm going to the Wizards.

That's my two options. And then you get to go over here, and you see this? They're just screaming, whoop. There it is. Fires. Fireworks. There it is. The Greek whooper it is.

It's going to be crazy. They play for a spot. The work is going to be easy. Like, he's going to be lit. He's going to be lit out there. He might take it for one year and then try to come back. Yeah, I think so, too.

It's a two-year deal. I'm sure there's some buyout. He can do two years and get another four. I mean, he just stacking at this point. I think who he was playing with in New York,

he probably was just practicing all day, fam. Because the dude don't play. They coach. I know, but you think this is the it for him in the league? You don't think he gonna try to come back, but you think this is the it for him in the league? You don't think he's going to try to come back?

Why would he? Play 13 years. 12 years. I mean, unless I get a call that I'm going to be on a team that I can help. Unless Boston calls. I was about to say Boston. Milwaukee or Philly. Unless one of these contending teams call.

And he could be doing it, you know. And as the chat has pointed out when you're googling fournier make sure you include his first name put the full name in he's gonna take you down a path you don't necessarily want to go down but uh how you know that i had to learn the hard way all right okay but let's keep this thing when we got to talk about something uh just going on in the last hour so shack is known as one of the best centers of all time, but he is not a fan of many centers that came after him. So recently did an interview with his son Miles for Complex.

Miles asked him who the worst player of all time was. Damn. And this was his response. Damn, Miles! He's probably going to say Dwight. Why are you fucking up in the back? Uh-oh. He's probably going to say Dwight or some crazy shit. Shaq didn't... Shaqdon sent the black SUVs.

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no sweat tokens vulture protection all that other good stuff uh yeah but uh long story short we're not we don't got it okay we will have it but uh just so we can continue talking here uh he said it was Rudy Gobert um Miles said what about Ben Simmons he also called Ben Simmons a bum the reason for Gobert was all the money and accolades he has that he doesn't live up to. That's what he said. We'll play the clip shortly. Ladies and gentlemen, we are a live show.

And as you know, we grind. Oh, damn, Diesel. That's one of them. Oh, mic drop. Tell them how you really feel, Shaq. They both took to the finals. That's one of them. I'm going to stay out of this one.

Hey, listen. Anthony Mason was his second. The to the finals. That's what I'm gonna stay out of this for. Yeah. Anthony Mason was his second- The way he played, that's the way he feel. So, on the position. So who's the worst defense player ever? He didn't speak on shooters. It's the defensive side. We do not-

Gobert responded. We uplift. He responded. Man, y'all gonna put the goddamn video up. Yeah, we were working on it. Okay, my bad. Your AC fucked up. We're in the midst of a heat wave they said that the wi-fi connection is tripping right now but we had a full conversation

he's worse than ben simmons ben simmons is another bum lsu slander no because you know why? I'm sorry to Rudy Gobert. No, because I'm going to tell you why. If you sign a contract for 250, show me 250. There's a reason why I walk funny and why I can't turn on my neck and why I can't do it because I play for my 120. So you got guys like him that persist them over. They're making all this money and they can't play.

So I don't respect guys like that. Like, you know, every time I make these comments people think I'm hating but these are facts. You got teachers, you got firemen, you got doctors who have real jobs and don't get paid shit. So Shaq said people think that I'm hating but these are facts. So the clip got to Rudy Gobert apparently because he just responded in the last hour. We had to create a fake account that he couldn't block so we could actually see the tweet. But here's...

You're on the block? He been blocked. Me. Sacre Blue. Here's what the... Who the fuck follows Rudy Gobert? Rudy known to block. Rudy didn't block. He defensive player of the year on Twitter as well. He got that block.

Leading the league in blocks. Leading the league in blocks. Yeah, but the clip got to Gobert. Here's what he quote tweeted in response. He said, it is sad to see someone that has accomplished as much as you did Shaq, both in sport and business, still be triggered by another man's finances and accomplishments. I get the entertainment part, but unlike other folks, you don't need that stuff to stay relevant. I hate the relevant part.

Yeah, like, you ain't relevant. I don't like when people use that. Like, his job is to talk sports. You're an athlete. But Shaq is. I guarantee you. Shaq will always be relevant. If we don't talk about you. Every commercial.

If we don't talk about you, you're not relevant. All right? If we don't mention you at all, you're going to be thinking about all these accomplishments I'm doing. Why can't I get on TV? Because nobody wants to talk about you. But at the same time, don't you got to feel some type of way every time somebody talk about you is negative, like for Rudy Gobert? Like every time. He's that guy. He he's just a goofy he's just that guy though that's why you shouldn't say nothing though that's why you shouldn't say nothing no he is though he's that guy

imagine that being you it's that guy like you're just that guy because we look at it right this man got four d like we honest with this shit? This man got four... Like, we honest with this shit, man. This man got four defensive player of the year trophies at home, dog. But that's not his fault, though. No, it's not. No, no, but it's not. It's definitely not. But it comes with it.

But the fact that he has them there, right? It's not his fault. They gave them to him. He earned games or whatever that he has them. So now there's room for people to feel a way and critique him at the highest level because you have accolades now to stack up for other people. So now people look at him and be like,

he's not that fucking good. He's just a goofy kid. It's not that he's not. If he had one defensive player, everybody would be like, okay, yeah, he's like that. No, please don't give me that award. No, yeah, all right, cool. He's like that. No, please don't give me that award. No, no, no. Please don't give me that award.

If he won, if he just had one, one, that's great for him. We're going to be like, yo, Rudy was nice. Early Rudy. No, just any. Maybe first. After he did all this shit. But no, no. Patient zero.

He was patient zero in the NBA. But when you're talking about the O'Donnell Mitchell say when you say for when you say for it don't match It automatically puts you in a realm of you think about okay, Ben Wow, first ballot like you're gonna hurt the ballot Hall of Fame this era bigs is not like that Okay, you'll hear him matter. It just makes money and makes to this. Nick, you watched basketball for a long time, right? You think he's a better defensive player than Hakeem Olajuwon. So when y'all hear all the other awards, y'all go back to them.

Y'all hear fucking Joker win three MVPs. Did I go back to them? I don't know y'all talking about Joker like that. Everybody got pissed off when I said, Joker is the worst three-time MVP in the last 40 years. In the last 40 years. In the last 40 years. And then everybody was like, how the fuck can you dare? And I said, okay, let me tell you the other ones first.

Michael Jordan. It was Michael Jordan, Magic, Bird, LeBron, and Jokic. At this point in time, who's fifth? Jokic, unfortunately, he hasn't finished his career. Yeah, I'm an asshole for wording the way I word it because I need you motherfuckers to jump. But at the end of the day, I'm not wrong because at this point in time,

he's going to be ranked five out of three-time MVP. So let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. When his career is over with, he probably... Is Rudy Gobert, from your opinion, with the damn award, is he a first ballot Hall of Famer? No. No, of course. saying. Is he a first ballot Hall of Famer? No.

No, of course. But I'm just saying if I was him. He is. How would you feel? Oh, I feel like he is. He's the first ballot Hall of Famer.

I'm saying if I was him, how would you feel that you see nothing but negativity? Nothing. I wouldn't respond. Like what? You got to take your money

and just chill. When you respond, they get to follow. Even, no, no. You got certain people that love that. You got choked out too. He got to talk to somebody. No, no, no.

Even right back. No, think about it. When he gets the fifth one, it's too late. It's too late. He got choked out already. Ain't nobody going for it. First game, like in the book. He got choked out. Think about it. That's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody going for it. First game, like in the buzzer. He got choked out.

Think about it. Everybody saw it. That's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody going for it. Every time you see his name. Listen, the smallest rookie, the dude who on the 15th bottom man in the NBA going to try him. He got choked out. You know the bad thing about it?

If I was Rudy, I would have went to them and said, hey, listen, for my legacy, let Wimby win this one. No, no, no. Let Wimby win this one so people can be like, okay. And then I can come back and win next year. But you gave me my fourth one. I can tell you this. When the Hall of Fame come in, he gonna be the worst name on that month.

They gonna have to put the nigga in with just a just, you know, like 1952, 1965. Damn, that nigga just got in? No, what I'm saying is, niggas a, just, you know, like, 1952, 1965. Like, damn, that nigga just got in? No, what I'm saying is, niggas who, yeah, it's going to be, it can't be, you can't be putting in. Kenji Martin got in? Damn, I think that should be what happened.

What I'm saying is, for people to feel good, for people to feel good about his name as a first ballot Hall of Famer, the people he go in with can be no name nobody recognize. So, wait, wait, wait. If it says Maul Ferry, niggas gonna be like, and why Rudy ain't here with him? Who's the top five best sinners in the league? It don't matter.

It does. It does. When he go in, the names he go in, it better not be in with a motherfucker like Steve Nash. He better not go in with a Steve Nash. You're just saying that because it's Goldberg to be funny. No, I'm just saying. No.

Just because how we look at it. Early Goldberg. Think about what I'm saying. Niggas want him. How we look at it. This Goldberg after getting choked down with COVID shit, nobody like him. Nigga, when they traded for him. They traded him.

When they traded for him, everybody was like, damn, you gave up too much for him. Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. They gave up everything for him, everybody was like, damn, you gave up too much for him. Yes. They gave up everything for him. We don't even know who they gave up. They could have gave up the hot dog stand, two motherfucker Disney tickets. We don't know who he gave up for. But we was like, damn, that was too much.

Yo, it was a lot. Right? It was a lot. Who's a better defender than him in the league now? You can't bring up Ben Wallace and all that. I'm talking about now. Winby, Anthony Davis. Who's a better defender than him in the lead?

I'm just going to read you the trade, and you tell me if it was too much or too little. Yes. Timberwolves received. Rudy Gobert. Jazz received. Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverly, Leandro Balmero, the number 22 pick in the 2022 draft, which was Walker Kessler,

Jared Vanderbilt, 2023 first round pick, 2025 first round pick, 2026 pick swap, 2027 first round pick, 2029 first round pick. Nah, they ain't get all them picks. I thought you stopped that. I would have stopped that. Now you see what I'm saying.

But I'm saying that's stupid, though. You think you can just get away with your life. But that's what I'm saying. But I'm saying that's stupid, though. That's like, you think you just gave away your life. But that's what I'm saying. It's like... They said, take it. No, what I'm saying is, like, the NBA is like, set this motherfucker up, like, yo, you could've stopped at least. But at the same time, you could've... I wonder why they got Ant-Man.

They don't need no more paint. But no, what I'm saying is, it's not... He's not personally doing anything wrong. It's the NBA. They're doing it so... Like, you know, like, God, just give me everything God deserves, and they giving it to him, and everybody sitting there like... The fuck he do deserve that? You know what I mean? Fuck he do deserve that?

Imagine being at the club, you sitting there two hours, and then this nigga come in. Everybody always looking at this nigga like, who the fuck is this nigga? He do that all the time. I know, but that's what I'm saying. So he's getting a bunch of hate that really he ain't deserving. He's just in the right place at the right time.

That's all it is. But he do a lot of goofy shit. He cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He make the whole... He's the only nigga like you get choked out, everybody was like... He deserve that. I mean, Draymond got five games.

Damn, that's too much for Draymond. That was... Damn, that's too much. All he did was just choke him just for a little bit. He ain't choking. He ain't choking. He ain't punching. He ain't dying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. All you did was just choke him just for a little bit

The bonus you just start bringing in Justify it Now you gotta suck some if he If he didn't do that, the staff, 10 years suspension. He got to walk through here and pack somebody up. He better go to Poconos. Is Shaq out of pocket

for even acknowledging the worst player of all time? No, I mean, you got to ask the question and answer it. Is really the worst player ever? Answer his son until he knew

what he was going to say. No, no, no. That's his son asking the question until he knew what he was fucking going to say. Shout out Miles O'Neal. You know the bad part about the worst player?

It's never actually the worst player. Right? You ask us, who is the worst player? It's the worst player with the biggest name. It's always the worst player with the biggest name. Who got more accomplishments that they didn't deserve? That's why his name is here. That's what this is.

Right? It's not the actual worst player. It's not a motherfucker who came in for half, half of 30 minutes on a team and he came in and left. It ain't that dude. It's always someone

who's the bottom end of good. What would you do if you was Gobert, though? Like Ben Simmons, I can see it because you're the number one pick.

I don't think Ben Simmons is a bum. He's not a bum. He's not. He was cold when he came out. I think he just don't like basketball. The problem with Ben Simmons

is his talent is so far up here that we don't see nothing but... You was getting called LeBron James, Muggie. He's good. He's good at basketball. I don't think he like basketball. That's my thing. He couldn't handle social media.

I don't think his skill set equals his desire to play the game. He's not strong enough mentally. I think if the fans see him in the summer, they'll hate him more. Think about it. They'll be like, yo, give us this during the season. Stop posting videos of you cooking in the summertime.

You're scared to shoot a three, and you get all the green light you want? I don't think he's scared. I think he just choose not to do it. I don't think he's scared to do it. I think he is. I think he just made his mind up. It's going to be on social media

when he do. Soon when he do, it's going to be on Instagram. Make or you miss it. That's what he's worried about, I think. 50-50 change. Nick, with Gobert,

you said Gobert needs to sock somebody. He should have. Does he need to sock more than one person? It's got to be the right person. If he came here right now and socked Gil, the biggest nigga in the world.

He came up through the door. I'm tired of you talking that shit. Boom, Gil just get dropped. And then, Colbert name changed. He's the coldest nigga in the game, dude.

No, I'm like, Colbert, I told him. He'll be like, you're socking on guards. Why are you picking on the little dudes? Nah, there's nothing he can do. There's really nothing he can do, man.

It is. He got to fight back. He can fight back. He got to fight back. Yo, listen, he can talk to somebody. Yo, yo. What does the fight back have to do with the awards he's getting? He got to either fight Keen or Gein.

He going to have to, what I'm saying? He need to get a tattoo. He need to come back with a tattoo. He need to come back with tattoos. He going to have to, oh, right here. All right here. Dress. Just everything. Some need to come back with a tattoo. He need to come back with tattoos. He gonna have to open a Jerry Charles. All right here. Dreads. You gonna have some dreads.

Dreads and tattoos. No, literally, he will have to play. He will have to play. He gotta come back like Willie Collin Stein, right? He will have to play. Bill and Beer basketball. Yeah. He will have to be Bill and Beer.

For real. He gotta. I got three of them. He gonna come back with teardrop tattoos. Oh, God. He gonna have to play like this. Yo, your baby name right here coming down. He got to come back.

Look at him. Because even if he does play great defense, visually it don't look like it. Right? So he's going to have to come back, like, really physically dominant. Like, coming in, boxing out, pushing you on the floor. Like, you coming in, I'm not trying to block it. I'm going to throw you on the ground. It has to look aggressive. It got to on the ground. It has to look aggressive.

It got to. Right? It just has to look aggressive. Like, you know, when Dwight was playing, it kind of looked like, when you was close lines and motherfucking, it looked aggressive. Like, yeah, I'm good on that nigga right there. Right? Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

I'm not. I'm going to shoot you up. First hand. They do it to everybody. I know. I'm not coming in and making layups. Like, yo, squeezing yourself. Black Griffin in practice.

Yeah. A little bit. That's what I said. It has to look like that. So hey, you don't want to be like Ryan Hollins. Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to be there. Oh, yeah, that's that goofy shit.

Pa, pa, pa, pa. No, no. No bullshit. Unnecessary. No, no, no. Unnecessary. Remember that toupee he had on? Unnecessary.

Unnecessary. He still got it on. And Ryan Hollins looks off. How he played D, he was dirty. Hollins got hit. It was dumb. Right? Hollins had hit.

No, no, no, no. He was goofy. He was a good guy. It ain't dirty. He goofy, bro. He needed you when he set screens. No, for sure. Cream training with Bruce Lee.

What do you want to do? That's how Ryan Hollins was. It was, he did a lot of dirty stuff. I don't think it was on purpose. The people out here, why Hollins will hurt you. He just hurts you. He just plays goofy. He's goofy.

Yeah, but he needs to beat Ryan Hollins with the extra hurt. Ryan Hollins is going in and breaking the hole, trying to rebound the ball. Jerry Wallace. Crash. Crash. Crash. This is Reggie Evans. This is Reggie Evans.

Reggie Evans. Yeah. Yeah. We're getting ready to play. We're going to crash today. Reggie Evans headbutting somebody. Heygie Evans. We getting ready to play. We got who going to crash today. Reggie Evans head-butting somebody. Hey, we in the locker room right before you. Who going to crash today?

Larry Sanders somebody. That nigga said a pick, knock you in. Reggie Evans head-butting. Yo, you said a pick. I'm your teammate. Man, Reggie Evans head-butting Isaiah this year just for no reason. Gobert won his fourth defensive player of the year last season. Heading into this season, he's currently second in odds

to win defensive player of the year this season behind Wimby. He just gave it to me. He's going to give it to Wimby. But listen, if I'm Rudy, I feel the same way he feels. I'm going to be frustrated too. Because, you know what I mean, I'm just out here trying to play the game I love. Y'all keep picking on me. They're giving me this award.

Like, I get it. Like, it's, right? Now I'm gonna say, now I don't need that $250. Now I'm good. Like, he was better off, instead of doing that, he just posted next to all four of his trophies. Right? Do stuff like that.

Like, Shaq, get to my level. Like, you know something like, get to my level. I don't respect niggas who ain't got phones. Like, if I'm him, you have to. You gotta double down. You can't play victim. You gotta double down on it. You can't play victim.

Fuck all you who just want to be relevant. Put them phone trophies there. Do that shit with Ice, was it Iceman on the thing? Do one of these and say, somebody tell Shaq. All right. Do Shaq a one. I don't want to hear nothing from him unless he gets two more of these or one more of these. Shaq being that motherfucker.

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because the NFL, people going to watch. They throw their best out. They throw their best out like we do. That's what you don't need. I don't know who's doing the research for these people. What you mean? What I'm saying is I don't know who's doing the research for them, but it's

like the first day of school, right? You got to tell them. It's the first day. You excited no matter what. It's football season. No, no, no, no, no. First day of school right you got it. It's the first day you excited no matter what it's for You don't know who that is like the NBA that you love the Lakers Clippers You don't have to do it if Milwaukee was playing Indiana niggas not watching Indiana's watch it watch It's my first Indiana. We all watching it. What am I saying is? Who is you watch the coach? versus? No, tonight is Ravens. Ravens, Chiefs. Yes.

If Ravens played the worst team, you're still watching. No. It's the first day. It's Lamar Jackson. It's the first day. I'm watching. Hell, yeah. I'm watching Pat.

It's the first. You're watching Pat versus Lamar. If Pat plays the one or two best quarterbacks in the league, you got to watch. But they're not going to be at their best today. Yes, they will. So it's Aaron Rodgers' first game back, right? So why not put him on with somebody? Man.

Because you got him on Monday night. You got the two hottest niggas in the league. Monday night against who? But it's the first game. He's on the first Monday night. He's on the first Monday night. That's a good game. Come on, bro.

This is a good game. They're playing the 49ers. We should have a turn up. We should have a turn up for that Monday night game. We know the 49ers' expectations. Yeah. We know the 49ers' expectations. We know the 49ers' expectations. Well, did they pay that? Did they pay the receiver yet?

So Jess is just his name. Well, they got a decent squad, but we don't know yet. Okay. Right? They got a decent squad, but we don't know yet. The 49ers have been NFC Championship, NFC Championship, Super Bowl. So they're supposed to win. They're supposed to.

They paid the receiver? Yeah. Oh, shit. And Randy and IU. So these two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're supposed to win. They paid the receiver? Yeah. Oh, shit. And now you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. They're trying to mimic something that happened in the play. These two must have played last year.

Traditionally, the Super Bowl championship game last year. Traditionally, the Super Bowl championship starts the season with the first game of the season. Yeah, Kansas City went into Baltimore last year and won. So they're trying to mimic that. Ravens was number one last year. But it's the first game of the season. Yeah, Kansas City went into Baltimore last year Trying to try to make it but the Ravens number one, but they're not but it is it's the first game do Just the dudes ain't in game shape yet. They just not getting a dude's gonna be one You're gonna see this tonight both of we call it the ads for the trainer But you don't want to see here we are

Yeah, but let him play somebody else. No not the Chiefs. Nah, you got to speak better play Tampa Bay. You're gonna watch You better wait us why we make a made a right not wait for the box at a playoff Yeah, let me let me go together and they don't see each other We know that we like week seven week eight. Yeah, hell Yeah, or let it be we 8. I can tell you this. Whoever wins this, in a sense, they advantage in MVP voting. That and

home court and home field. They're the best two teams in AFC. They're the best two teams in AFC, right? That's why you want to see them go. So now home field matters. Because Kansas City can go anywhere they've proven that. But I just think this game tonight, they didn't have to put these two teams tonight. I like this, though, because now they both fresh.

You don't know what's going on. It's like podcasting. You need somebody at that. It's like podcasting. I don't want to play the seventh game. Then you know you got to play them again in the playoffs. Like, you get your ass with the seventh game in the season, eighth game in the season, and you play them in the playoffs.

It's like, God damn. It's the same thing. No. It's the same game shape. I'd rather. It's like podcasting, man. You come out with a big fish, your first game, your first interview. What did you lose?

It's like, oh, man. It don't matter. It's our first game. I'm sure we'll see them again. That's the kind. No, he come out. He told me, if you get that big first guess. That big first guess, everybody after that is bullshit.

Nobody want to. No. Think about it. It's easy to build up. Listen, they getting their rings tonight. It's just too much. Let them get their rings. Every league do that.

We did that. We had to play against LeBron and his team. We had to play against LeBron and his team. If you got to go do this, they had to go play this really good team. You're saying who? Rockets. Because they beat them in the Western Conference Finals. Did y'all lose that game?

We lost, yeah. Of course. But I'm saying. I want ring knight. Y'all got 81 more. But still. They got 16 more. They played them in the playoffs and won.

That's what I'm saying. The implications of this one game is greater than y'all losing the first game of NBA season. Your ring knight is your special day. So if ring night is your special day, when you want to play against somebody, y'all can go out there and beat the fuck up. Ring night is for you. It's never been like that. It's never been like that. Even in AAU, Sonny used to do it.

Lakers is always the first game. Lakers Clippers or Lakers somebody. Lakers. No, that's not stupid. How is that stupid? You don't want to see the Lakers? You don't want to see the Lakers first game? Yes, he said let the Lakers play against or Lakers somebody. Lakers. No, that's not stupid. How is that stupid? You don't want to see the Lakers? You don't want to see the Lakers first game? Yes, he said let the Lakers play against.

Against, yeah. Go to state. Blazers. Yes. Why? Nobody want to watch that shit. Man, you watch the Lakers. Sorry, Blazers.

Stop. No, you're not. You're not watching that whole game. I'm sorry. I don't want to watch that whole game. I don't care. I'm not watching this shit. Yeah, but I don't want to watch the play against the Blazers.

Oh, okay. How about this? You're a Bucs fan, right? Do you want to play against your first five games? Yes. Denver, Boston, Knicks, Philly. Let's get it out of the way. You go 0-4.

Let's get it out of the way. That's your coach. No, we're not. No, we're not. No, we're not. I want to see it right now. 0-4 or 4-0? It's the NBA, though.

It's more games, though. It's the NBA. It's more games, so I don't care. It's the NBA, though, so I'm not tripping. But what I'm saying is, how does it look when you start up, when you're talking about being a fan? But what if you win them games, though? If you win the games, you'd be good.

Our first game against the Knicks, we played against the Broncos. But the implications in the NFL season are greater than the NBA season. You got fucking 16 games, dog. Right, so whoever loses tonight, you just go 15 to 1. Yeah. That's a great why. Or it could be a domino effect, right?

You can lose tonight, and you can lose next three, and now you ain't in contention to do shit. They did that last year, didn't they? For the Phillies. But where were they trying to do that move? How about this? I know, but they won five in a row, or four in a row, and then they lost three in a row.

Detroit was a really good team. And they didn't know it. Detroit was a really good team and beat them the first game. Which game seems more impactful? They thought it was a cakewalk.. And they didn't know it. Detroit was a really good team and beat them the first game. Which game? They thought it was a cakewalk. So they played Detroit first. No, no, they didn't think it was a cakewalk. Well, not a cakewalk.

They didn't know that Detroit was as good as they were to come in there and beat them game one. Campbell and Applebee's. So that's what I mean. There's kind of no cakewalks this year. What I'm saying is, which one looks better for them? Yeah, but I'm saying, I think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zero and zero.

Yeah. These two teams play zero-zero, or these two teams face up in week five, and they both 5-0. Which one is more, which one looks better for ratings? Zero and zero, or 5-0? Open at night. Open at night. Well, how do people predict that, though?

Open at night. You're going to treat it. Open at night. It's rain night, and it's open at night. Man do people predict that, though? Open at night? You're going to treat it like open at night? Ring night and it's open at night. Man. They want the Ravens to be mad seeing these niggas get rings so they can make a football this year. All right, well, let them play the division game then.

Man. Let them play a division game first then. I just never liked it when they had the Titans coming out. Tonight, yeah. That makes sense. Let them play the Raiders. It's the beginning. Now, that's the beginning. Let them play the Raiders. It's the beginning. Let them play the Raiders.

We'll play. We'll play. We'll walk in there and win. Niggas is waiting. People are going to tune in. Because they're going to play again anyway. They're going to play again anyway. Yeah, true. Let them tune in.

That's all I'm saying. Football season. Because one of these teams don't deserve to have a loss this early in the season. That's all I'm saying. So we've got opening kickoff tonight. Oh, because that's your team. No, it's not. He's here? I got a Ravens tonight, bro.

The Ravens will kill you tonight. You scared? You scared of them Chiefs? And they're going to be against us. You scared of my homes? We got opening kickoff tonight, but we got a special announcement. He don't miss. We got a special announcement for Monday night. We are doing a watch party here in the arena

for the Monday night game between the Jets and the Niners So and also we're on Monday Tuesday Wednesday next week So we have that special football watch party coming to you at 5 p.m. Pacific 8 p.m. Easter is gonna be turnt up. We got some NFL players coming through we gonna be tailgating So I have a no-no skater in all the rooms and gills housing or being used and in use. Nibbles catering. Nibbles catering. Nibbles catering. Okay. Sunday, we got Oxtails. We playing the Lions. Y'all know we're smacking through that. Can I switch up? Okay.

Who we playing? I'm fine with it. I'm Oxtails. We smacking through the Lions now. Lions going to kill the Rams. You crazy as hell. Y'all traded golf and he coming back home? You crazy as hell.

Golf coming back home. We playing football. We're not playing golf. What are you talking about? Golf. They quarterback. Tell her to do it. He was your quarterback.

Y'all traded niggas to the lines to get. He traded us because he was a bum. We don't want to fuck with him. Man, you don't call him a bum. Y'all paid him a million. Hey. No, he wasn't no bum. You just got somebody that was better.

Better. Not no more. Yeah. Not no more. Who we got? Golf code. Matthew Stafford. Yes. That's what we got. Not no more. What we got? Golf code.

Matthew Stafford's released. Yes. That's what we got? Yeah. That's what we got? Yes. You got to pretend. You got to pretend like you know.

Matthew Stafford's released. But like I said, we will have a Monday tailgate here in the arena. He didn't even run. Nigga, he just had 30 minutes. He never was a runner. But he, I'm talking about moves. He just had 30 minutes. He never was a runner.

He ain't got no knees, Brad. He never was a runner. You 40 years old with no knees. But he never was a runner, so guess what he got? Don't worry about it. Hey, guess what he got? You already know. Tom Brady was never running either. That arm and that accuracy never went anywhere.

You can't compare Matt Stafford to Brady. Accuracy? No. Are you out of your mind? Hey, man. Hey, just watch this. Are you out of your mind? Yes, I'm about to be out.

Boy, you don't know this. Let's keep this thing moving. But let's keep this thing moving. You better go ask somebody to play in the NFL, Matt Staff know. Let's keep this thing moving. But let's keep this thing moving. You better go ask somebody to play the NFL by Matthew Stafford. Let's keep it moving. But remember, pull up Monday to our watch party. We'll be at 5 p.m., 9, 11, 30, as usual. We'll be at 5 p.m. Monday.

We'll be on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We're going to be productive. We're going to be turnt up. We got Nibbles catering. We're going to have beverages. We're going to be in here turning. I'm going to try to die. Damn.

What? I'm dying for my Rams, baby. I'm going to die. All right. We need you alive. I'm trying to try to die. What? I'm dying for my Rams, baby. I'm going to die. All right, so. Gil, we need you alive. I'm trying to die. So it's the first financial situation. Gil, don't die Sunday because we've got to do the show on Monday, please.

Thank you. Our financial situation hinges on you being alive. Right. You just change it to whatever arena, baby. I'm from the grave, baby. So y'all's arena on the Patriots versus Bengals. They played the first game tonight. Yes.

I'm a football fan. Dope. I watch football. Since you just said, why they put a... I watch football. That's the first game on Sunday. I watch football. Yo.

Patriots-Bengals. You watching that? I'm up at 7 watching pregame shows and shit, bro. I watch pregame. He's a football fan. I watch pregame. Hey, you live his life, Nick. Yo, I watch pregame football shows and shit

and I watch the first game. I'm up, dog. We do this here. Go ask my wife. He be at church. Go ask my wife. Let's think about it. Ask my wife what I do.

Are you watching that game? What? Patriots versus Bengals. Ask my wife. All right, so you watching that game? I'm watching multiple games. A little bit of it. He at church with the Bible and the phone right here.

Amen. So that's one and a half on the couch. Because I watch football. But are you watching the KFC Ravens and Lube? Everybody will watch that. That's why you play the first game. I like football. KFC.

Let's keep this thing moving. We're going to get back to basketball. Your favorite hybrid. Your favorite hybrid football. Basketball podcast. Gil's a reader presented by Notre Dame Fantasy. So Nick, we're going to talk a little bit about your Twitter game. It's been on fire. We got to address a few more tweets. Last week we talked

about some tweets you posted. So we got to address a few more this week, starting with this one. Best team in the, best championship team? Not quite yet. Oh. You said KG is the Kobe to Tim MJ. People scared to say he better. So Duncan had more individual and team success than KG during their NBA careers.

But just rolling the ball out, do you think KG was a better player than Tim Duncan? Yes. And why do you feel that way? Because he could dribble, fade away. Tim was great, though. But I feel like just because you got accomplishments in championships don't always mean you're better than that person. To me, I feel like his team was better than the Timberwolves.

That's why. But if you put KG on that team, I think he'd have the same amount of rings, plus probably more. You think KG would have more rings if you swapped him and Tim Duncan, put KG on that Spurs squad? Never know. Okay. Gil, you were looking at Nick.

Think about Timberwood. There's only one person I can answer, really, and have an unbiased, more accurate statement. To this side, Canyon, you match up against both these gentlemen. One thing Nick said was accurate, I agree with. If you put KG on that team, they don't miss a beat. Yeah. You think Spurs still have a it. If you put KG on that team, they don't miss a beat. You think Spurs still have a similar amount of success with KG?

Absolutely. Instead of Tim Duncan? Absolutely. But I think if you put Tim with the Minnesota team, he'd get them out of the first round and shit like that. So would that imply that Tim is better than KG?

They would. There was, Tim had something Garnett didn't have. What? OK, so the last three minutes of the game, you couldn't go to KG because KG would defer. KG would defer because he's going to make that pad. Like, he's going to try to go to Wally Zerbiak and try to go to those guys instead of just taking over. Tim, you can go to Tim at the end and Tim will finish.

Like, so one was a better passer, one was so... I think KG down there had everything better besides the bank shot. Bank shot. Now, both of them, listen, man, because cuz get to your point gear Battle boat Hey, you see I was just looking at cage you going one-on-one in that Come on USA. I guess okay. Don't ask you personally Thinking is hard kind of let you know It's yeah, it's not as easy as who's supposed to be top power forward and one's. Who's a tougher backup for me?

But I'm just saying they just put Tim in front of it. Because of his pierce. Like, Tim weighed more than I did. Yeah, he did. He did. So that played a factor, right? Him leaning on me, 272. I'm playing at 230.

So that, like, for me, it was that aspect of it. Yeah. KG, wiry, strong. Just like, for me, I was able to push KG where I wanted him, guide him in certain areas. Like, I really had to work at making Tim go where I wanted him to go. Right? After the first game of the finals, like, all, because I'm trying, like, I'm locked into, so all this shit on me was sore. From me meeting him and pushing him out to where I wanted him to go.

And me not giving ground. And him just leaning on me constantly. And me just holding my ground. But see, I thought Tim, because KG could put it on the ground.

You put him on that Minnesota team, he needed to do everything like KG. He needed to shoot the free throw, front of free throw, pull up. But you just put Tim in the situations. Tim was efficient, right?

Like, so... Put Tim on that team, and you could throw him to him to go off the dribble. He could. But he wouldn't have to do that. What? On that team? On Minnesota? If he was on Minnesota, he wouldn't have to. You got to do everything on Minnesota to go to the playoffs.

No, but to be honest, Minnesota, they just couldn't get out the first round. They were all right. But what's so funny is they didn't get out the first round. Why didn't they get out the first round? I'm going to tell you this. When they got out, they was missing one piece. Somebody who was going to take a shot at the end of the game. And that became a 30-something-year-old man by the name of Sam Cassell.

Sam Cassell. Sam was cold, though. Sam Cassell go there and then become a 20-something-year-old man by the name of Sam Cassell. Sam Cassell. Sam was cold, though. Sam Cassell go there and then become a 20-point scorer. He always been that. No, he was not a 20-point scorer. Sam was always... His best year was there because... He got into like 17, 18.

Yeah, he always had to go like 17. But his best year was 20. He got put into a situation where his expertise paid off. Taking the shot at the end. Think about, he has Hakeem, so he don't get to do what he wants to do. Kevin Garnett, hey, I need you to take them shots at the end of the game. Now he's in his element. Now this is where big balls coming at him because he get to be that guy for.

Tim can take every shot at the end. KG led the Timberwolves to the playoffs eight straight seasons. They didn't get out of the first round in seven of those seasons, including two losses to the Spurs. First three won them two separate times in that situation. They did make the conference finals in 2004.

That's a better team. I'm just saying, but it's a matchup, though. How much he had, though, that series? How much they had? No, Cage, they both did their thing, man. How much they had that series? What's the... Let's look at the stats. It's hard. Well, I mean, it's... Because both of them... Okay, they both did they

It's hard He's defense because KG's Tim block shot defense individual defense KG win multiple defensive players if he's with San Antonio if he's with San Antonio. If he's with San Antonio... He wins multiple. He's multiple because individually... Because the way they defend as a team. He was a great defensive player. You add that defensive scheme... With that.

Makes them look great. They see funnel shit, right? There's a funnel. For me, right? I get by Tim and it's fucking trouble. Yeah. Tim coming, Dave Robinson, it's just... Duncan has looking has the most all defensive teams among big men with me I like the but but but it's not in the pillar, but yes as a but the team itself team shit

It's a team shit. That's why you can't always go off of like Ginobili was a great defender Tony Parker wasn't a great defender the The scheme itself was great at defending. Bruce Bowen, you can beat him off the dribble any time you want, but the team was going to net all that shit up. So you attack him from below the free throw line, good fucking luck. How did they get...

Good luck. So what I'm saying is... What pick was Tim? That's the same shit with D. Rose in the EP year. Who won? They had the number one pick with David Robinson. Damn you! David Robinson was hurt the previous year. Who won? They had the number one pick with David Robinson. Damn you! David Robinson.

That's that shit I've been talking about. Was hurt the previous year. Oh, my God. So they were top three teams. They did that on purpose. Yeah. At her. He wanted to come back and be like,

ah, you just sit out these last 37 games. Play Dave, baby. He's going to draft Tim Duncan. You just sit out these last 37. Damn Sean Elliott. Damn Sean Elliott. Sit out. And they won a championship.

And then it come out the lockout. Yeah, the lockout year. But then it's the lockout. They beat the Knicks, though. Then it's the Sit out. And they won a championship. And then it come out the lockout. Yeah, the lockout year. They beat the Knicks, though. Then it's a lockout. And they won a championship. Then it's a lockout. Tim Duncan, KG, both hoopers. Who?

Are Tim Duncan and KG both hoopers? Yeah. What do you mean? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, from that aspect, yeah. Whose aspect? From the aspect that he said. Basketball aspect.

The updated version. The updated version. The updated version. I heard. What's so funny is a whole bunch of basketball sites. A whole bunch of basketball sites and all this. Like, when the fuck did Hoopers become two-way players? I was a Hooper. He was called a Hooper.

That ain't gonna go out there and hoop. I wasn't here for the conversation. My definition of it is, hooper is somebody who likes to fucking play basketball. Yeah, right? You go to hoop. No matter what. No matter what, you go on the hoop.

We hoopers. You throw the ball up, I got on jean shorts, I'm going to hoop. Right? Niggas from the park, them niggas hoopers. It knows it.

Hold on, let me tie these motherfuckers up real quick. Nigga, you got a ball, let me tie the nigga, what? That's a hooper. Steven's deck. You got a ball. Let me tie it up. That's a Hooper. I've seen Steven's deck. That's a dance. He going to be good no matter what. Let me not mess up this fresh white tee.

Hold on. Let me take this. Man. He about to go to the park. He about to hoops. Hoopers. Hoopers basketball shorts under their jeans. Yeah.

Yes. At all times. It's a game breaker. Just in case. Less time ballers. Two-way players is a whole different thing. We didn't know. Those are two-way players. Two-way players.

That's why they got the two-way players. He's a two-way, or he's a complete basketball, or there's other terminology you can use. Complete basketball player. Complete two-way. All these, but Hooper and Score, that shit. Yeah, I didn't know. That came out of the left field.

But like Tim Duncan, Garnett, we know if Garnett was in that system. Oh, my God. That's what I'm saying. That's what I like to talk about. He would have been the greatest power forward of all time. Everybody just say Tim, Tim, Tim. If Tim Duncan was in Timberwolves.

Timberwolves. Bill, you're saying if Tim Duncan took KD. Tim Duncan would be, how about this, Tim Duncan will be, I don't know, will he be better than Kevin Garnett was? In that situation? I think so. I think so. They both would have been the same.

I don't know, because Tim needs that pass. He likes more. I don't know. That's just a hard one. But you're running shit for Tim either way, no matter where you're putting Tim Duncan, you're running plays for him, right? I think it's more pressure on you. You're running plays for him no matter where you put him.

It's more pressure on you. Right? More pressure because you ain't got Tim Parker and... Tim Duncan. I mean, yeah, KG definitely has like three or four rings. Tony Parker had nothing to do with wedge roll, nigga. Nah. Nah, don't talk.

Hey. We said wedge roll. Wedge roll. Hey. Hey. Hey. KG didn't double. Tony Parker had nothing to do with wedge roll. KG didn't double though. Hey. I can tell you that shit. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, road with Tony Parker but it ain't for Tony Parker that's dangerous I used to be in that pick and roll

but still the last four minutes of the game that he spoke of they called where's role you turn that corner and you throw that motherfucker back he had to learn how to score I used to hate that play when he's down

come on that first year he came good in that system I hate that play. When he's down. When he's down. I know. But come on. Like that first year. Parker coming off that. It come off that. That shit was like. He became good in that system. Like it's. Nigga.

Like I don't know. Like you put Tim anywhere. He would have been a great. Yeah. Like it's. But the KG part. Like if KG was in that defensive system. Oh my God.

His defensive. He would have had some. They winning more. You would have. You would have had a hard time scoring against him. For sure. Like when somebody's like, yeah, Tim is a great defensive player, I was like, individually? Fuck, I never had to play again.

I know that fucking system was fucking... But I feel like they forget about... But I was like, well, he was always fucking here for you. Time in his long arms, he did listen. Don't get me, don't tell you, because I played him up. The motherfucker Halmos had a quadruple double in the finals against us. So don't not go with me. Like, it was just one of those things.

And I was three for 23 in that game. Like, even like Ben Wallace, right? Like, Ben Wallace, great defender, right? Rip. Chauncey. Okay. Chason, good. Then you added. Who? Chason? Chason Prince was a good defender. Chason Prince? Chason Prince, okay. Chason, good. Then you added...

Who's Chason? Chason Prince was a good defender. Chason Prince? Chason Prince. Oh, Chason Prince. And then you end up getting Rasheed Wallace. Which they needed. Which they needed.

Now you're talking about... Wait, what? Now you're talking about... They needed Chason Prince. What about Chason Prince? He said Chason. He said Chason Prince. Now when you got...

He's more like me on Twitter. Who's saying both? Now when you got... He don't like me on Twitter. Who's saying both? Now when you got Rasheed Wallace, now you're talking about a third great defender made the two okay look like they was motherfucking first team all defense too now. So now the whole team as a unit became probably one of the best defensive teams

that ever played the game. Man, I was busting their ass. I was busting their ass too. I was busting their ass the game. Man, I was busting their ass. I was busting their ass too. I was busting their ass. No, no, I was busting their ass too. But you get... I was busting... Because I knew how to attack it.

But you put KG on his first official good team in the Boston and he won a championship. He won a championship. Huh? First year. No. But you gave him more scores too though. Before she... We just swept that team in the playoffs.

But, like, what was the funny thing? Like, when you gave, when you gave, when you gave Kevin, when you gave Garnett. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. A bunch of non-scores, but look how, like, we were talking about individual defense. Ray Allen wasn't a great defender. Paul Pierce wasn't a great defender. You gave him KG, that team, all of a sudden became a great defensive team.

I know. We played with first guys. That's why I said it's hard to figure out who's defense because... And y'all was down 20. A bunch of people became defensive players all because of one person was a great defensive player. He's helping all y'all. He is the net guy.

They threw Tony Allen in that motherfucker, too, though. Yeah, Tony Allen was in the league before, but... Think about it. He was on Memphis. Was Paul... Was Debo a great defender? What? Because I wasn't defensive player of the year. Who? What's up? Did he? Come on, nah. Hell nah.

We can't put him in that fucking Goldberg shit, nah. Yes, they can. That's all. That's all it's called. I'm a big. No, dog. And he won second team. Second team. Second team, all defensive. You defensive player of the year.

Was he also of the year? Who? Probably. Martin Gasol got a defensive player of the year. Grindhouse, baby. That was called Grindhouse for a reason. Grindhouse. Hear me out.

He played. Hear me out. Hear me out. He has a defensive player of the year award. I don't have a defensive first team or second team. You don't? No. That's because you angry, nigga.

Niggas don't like you. If niggas liked you, you would have one. Niggas don't like you. You too angry. You trying to punk David Stern and shit. Not him. You do the brother knowledge thing. Not him.

You wasn't brother knowledge then. No, I left him alone. You wasn't brother knowledge then. But I left him alone. He said he wasn't brother knowledge then. No, but we were talking about him. I left that man alone. You wasn't brother knowledge then. But I left him alone. He said he wasn't brother knowledge then. You talking about him. No, I left that man alone. Him?

No, you got it. I said you was the son. I didn't see you punk a lot, motherfucker. Not him. Not him. Organization. Not him. Like, Giannis was a great defender.

Lopez was a great defender. All first teams, right? What was his name? Right? But last year, they couldn't stop nobody. Right? Last year, they couldn't stop nobody, but the year before, they was his thing. Right? Niggas hate it. But last year, they couldn't stop nobody. Right?

Last year, they couldn't stop nobody. But the year before, it was first team, all this. Last year, whole team looked bad at defense. Because the one person that was really important was in there, Drew Holiday. Right, so Drew Holiday, the net guy, made everybody seem like they was these elites. Wait, wait.

Yes. You don't think Bubba called it good? They didn't play very, what I'm saying is, they didn't play, they didn't look good. They couldn't, they was giving up all kind of layup. They looked really bad.ba Carter good? Oh, shit. They didn't play very, what I'm saying is they didn't play, they didn't look good like that. They couldn't, they was giving up all kind of layup. They looked really bad. Oh, that's because of the front, the front, yeah.

The front. But he does everything. But that's the thing. But it ain't just up front, right? He does everything. He digging, helping, does, takes charge. When you got the streak back there too. But that's what he's doing it all though.

But damn, if Dane Leonard, you pick Arden. But I'm gonna look like a great defender. So, if I got him back, like me being a great one-on-one defender. So, just imagine. You get by me on the pick and roll and go to layup. So we got me and J.K. on the same team playing defense, right? This shit is impossible for a dog.

Because he can be guarding him or Cole. He gonna motherfucking be digging over here, helping him, gonna tag him, and gonna contest Gil's shot. Gil gonna drive. He gonna motherfucking take control. You drive, you got me playing. So it's like

when you got two guys, especially when Drew is the player. Just watch it. It's all over the goddamn place. Remember, I'm an offensive player, which means I need to know defense like the back of my hand to know what you're supposed to do, what you're

going to do, what you need to do. I can say, okay, you're a first team all defensive player. I'm going to take that to, I'm going to test that and show the world you're not. What I'm going to do is isolate, okay, Kenyon's going to be on this side, so I'm moving this way. I'm going to isolate your help to show the world you can't play defense by yourself, right? So now I know attack from the top, meaning when I attack from the top for you to take a charge on me you have to now go around that circle to come here right if i'm on a side you can go over and be in in um and what and help the uh defense so it's harder for you to if

i'm attacking from the top it's really harder for you to play defense at an efficient rate, right? So, but there's guys that individually, they were great. J. Kidd, no matter where I isolated him at, he was good by himself. He didn't need back in line, right? Now, him trying to get by him, fuck, it's going to be a hard night. Now he had his king in, fucking, it's going to be one of those five to 21 nights. But then there's guys that's first team getting all these defense. I take away the rest of your team.

You are nobody. Or you're great denying me. You're not great on pick and roll, right? You're great at posting up denying shooting guards. You're not great at trying to stop me backpedaling. That's not your expertise. So your defense changes depending on the realm of the game. So somebody

might be great at picking the ball up, horrible getting through ball screens, horrible trying to guard somebody. Like, I guard Chauncey. Chasing the rip all the time? Fuck no. Right? So it all depends on what you're going around. What's Gobert good at? Who? Gobert.

As a defender. He's the best defense player of the year. What is he good at? Go Burr. As a defender, he's the best defense player of the year. What is he good at? He's not good at switching all of that. This is the problem. Because they equate rebounding energy. There's a lot of

misses in the game, right? He's the tallest thing out there. You're going to get fucking 13 of them if you buy the ring. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was more defensive. And defense is also like this. Let's say...

I didn't know that. Let's say you drove. Let's say you drove the lane. Yes. You beat your man, and I'm sitting here with Ken, and you missed the layup. It didn't have nothing to do with me.

You missing the layup, I get a defensive point for it, even though I ain't had shit to do with it. You're the closest defender. You're the closest defender. Damn. I didn't have nothing to do with me you missing a layup I get a defensive point for it even though I had she's the closest defender and right yeah defender now so now you'll be here that's here they talking during the game like I love more like I said that the nearest defender you're like I mean I mean like I be having like you you have how do they determine that I'm like how is it you have Ant-Man as a good defender? Mm-hmm, right? He's a good defender He's learning to be good. He's learning to be a good defender. Who's the three man? McDaniels. McDaniels is a great defender. Conley is a great defender Mm-hmm. So you know, how do you get where's your credit?

Like what I'm saying is who's getting credit for the stops if you know how to play these you know how to play Right. Could they be great defenders because of Goldberg? No, they're good on the ball. When he's off the gate, they're good on the ball. This has nothing to do with behind. This is what he's talking about right here. So you're making like, you're picking me up full court and I'm sitting here doing this and I gotta do all this shit right here and I miss it and you jump at the end and you

get the credit like- And then Rudy get the rebound. And he don't get the credit for like He doing this right here. I'm gonna say this. It's too. It's too narrow Like if you pick me up full thing, it's just that nothing likes a lot of like somebody like Damon Ali. Is it Damon Ali? Ali Ali Kevin Kevin Ali Kevin Ali was a hell of a defender Because what what he did he picked me up full court. He picked me up full court. He made me turn

100 times before I got to even score. If I score two points, he don't get no credit for making me turn 37 times. Where's the equation for someone who's picking up full court? What's the little kid from Jose?

Great defender. Yes. He's a great defender because where his effort is. He can't start saying great defender just because you're diving on flows and shit. Like, come on, man. For what he does. Who can bring it? Niggas don't even bring the ball up on him.

Some of that new Patrick Farrelly shit. Nick, Nick. Who can bring it? Be guard to point guard. The point guard letting the other dude bring the ball up. That's not. Come on, man. Nobody brings the ball up on him. He picks you up for change your game play

I got a check. I got a change the game plan. We supposed to be running 1015 I got to give it to you every time that's not defense cuz he cuz he's not force you to go to Nick and now I get the three pick none of that shit. So now Bring it up for court. They want to easy. Oh, man. Let's go. Hey, I don't want to get the ball back and do my first someone who made you not stop his shape Okay, 50 you can't be fucking a good defender because he puts them in a post but that's going I'm I'm automatically making Automatic making you a second. Yeah, I'm making you go to your second different if you not watch it if you don't know that You don't need to work harder, though. It's smarter. Throw it to me and go get the ball back.

What's your favorite play? Let me bring it up. When we was doing chin what? Chin 15. Chin 15. Both of us like chin 15, right? Or I like chin drop or chin 15. If he forces us, because I don't want to bring the ball up,

and he forces you to run chin 15, and I got to run a whole nother play, he took us out of what we want to do. Chin drop. You get chin drop and chin iso. But now he's making you do chin 15, making me do something else. By himself, this one man made us go to our option twos the whole game. That's a defense.

He won't get credit for none of that. Me running that way, I think something like that. When we laid us. Some of that stuff is just to show, like, just to, like, it's just show for show. I don't think it's really good defense because you picking a nigga up full court. But you don't get credit for it either, though. It's still effort. It's good defense.

You got to show effort. If I'm making new turns four or three times, you should. If the ball is not even in the back, I'm just going to dive. He's doing that no matter what. Dive. He's picking you up the first year of a new contract, too. There's no credit for it. The first game of a new contract, he's picking you up four or four.

I got the bread, and I'm still climbing in your motherfucking jersey. What I'm saying is you don't get no credit for it. There's no algorithm or there's no statistic for this person stopping a play before it happens. Like, if I'm supposed to give you the ball at the end of the game, we're going to nick, and your

defender denies you the ball, and you can't get open. They got to go to another play. Even if this other play they score, this person who stopped you, the original play, should be credited for that. But because the analysts don't know the plays, they don't know. You should have sent more people at the person that's going to get the ball. But I'm just saying if I stop you from doing it, somebody else go and hit a game winner,

the original play was for you. I stop that. I get the credit for that. But I don't. Because obviously... It's the Lord, right? It don't matter. I don't get a credit for stopping it. Because the analysts don't know what the fuck... Or the people voting. Or I'm provoking.

Like, all right, you're supposed to... Like, I know. I've seen the signal. You're supposed to hedge, hedge backdoor. And I come over early. It's hard to predict. It's hard to be like, the play was for him. We wanted to pin down for you.

We know, we know, but it's hard to be like, the play is for him. Something simple though, right? Yeah. We put, running a pin down for you and I tell Gil to top lock it. Top lock it. Make him go out the other way. I ruined the play. Ruined the play.

I killed the whole fucking play. But think about it. Do we know, what if we don't know he said that to him? Who? We don't know if he said that to him or not. But that's what I'm saying, exactly. What if Goldberg said top lock it and don't know if he said that to him or not. But that's what I'm saying. Exactly. What if Gobert said, top lock out and don't set him up?

We don't know that. But that's what I'm saying. Y'all think because he's stupid looking. No, no, no. But what I'm saying. He could say. Gobert be saying all kinds of shit out there. He could. Gobert could be talking like a motherfucker.

He could. Just because his name is Gobert. But I look. No, I'm saying. I look. What I'm saying is, how do you, if you're watching the game as an analyst, know everything that person's doing? Yeah.

Top lock. Do it or bad. If he is or if he not. You don't know our plays. You don't know the plays you never play. You don't know what a guy's, you don't know the synergy report, right? If I'm saying, all right, we're going to push Nick this way. Don't let Nick go this way.

Even if you have fucking six shots going that way, that was the game plan. Right? Don't let Nick go this goddamn way to get to this hand and shoot this. If I'm following my game plan, and even if you do great in the game plan, the game plan is still the game plan. To go under the pick, right? Right, but the person who's judging my defense don't know that. Damn, he's busting his ass. He's busting his ass. Nick came off and made three straight jumpers. We going under. That's the game pick, right? Right, but the person who's judging my defense don't know that. Damn, he's busting his ass.

He's busting his ass. Nick came off, made three straight jumpers. We going under. That's the game plan, right? That's what I'm saying. Then we make the adjustment. Okay, Nick made three. Now we're going to chase him over the top.

Have we got to chase him over the top? They can't know that. So they came out and said how you can win defensive player. They have a metric, but most of it has the defensive rebounds, right? Block steals. Block steals, team efficiency. So a lot of the time during my career,

I guarded the other team's best fucking player. Guard or big, most of the time. And I was always on the ball. So, of course, my defensive rebounds is going to suffer. Because I'm contesting shots all the time. I'm boxing my fucking man.

He's not getting a rebound. But I'm guarding the best team of the game winners. He was there for one of them. They put him over the gate for the first game. They put him over the gate. He wasn't the only one. Bob said what I seen. What I seen, yeah.

You talk about that. Time and time again, I'm always on the ball, right? You're coming out of timeout. I'm guarding AI out of timeout. I'm guarding Kobe this way. I'm guarding playing the Knicks. I got to chase Allen Houston and Sprewell around. Then I got to go bang with Larry Johns and Kurt Thomas in the post.

We go on the road. I got to go guard Jamal Mashburn this night. I got to go guard PJ. Then I got to go me and pj brown down here battling so this is one game for me but people don't know this right i'm doing all of this and and i'm calling out other team plays deny this don't do this but i ain't got not one defensive player or first team second team or i didn't know that but i didn't know that either and that's why you know what they should do?

That's crazy. They should do it like this. He was a gangster. When the Warriors come out, have all the coaches vote, have all the players vote, the defense, media, you vote,

and then compare who you thought was a defender versus this because the coaches did a game plan so they know who fucked their game plans up. Right? Right? So you can see that there will be a big difference between the people who know the ins and outs of it versus who you guys are voting for. But it's a big difference.

Like I said, man, go ask my peers. So Rudy Gay, I mean, so Goldberg came in second in blocks? Yes. The other boy averaged a whole block more. Wimby. They winning. He deterred a lot of stuff. Like it was, it reminded me of like Kevin Garnett. It reminded me of Kevin Garnett and wasn't it?

He's a single hand defender like when we said This person to a defender this person Rudy looks it's easier for him here. This guy is doing all this by himself I'm blocking here. The turn is rebounded like I'm stopping. I gotta stop you. I gotta like he's that that He's Phoenix out this bitch. So what happens if that's what happens if you took him and put him in the Timberwolves situation the motherfucker around mice just score 70 80 points a game It might look like motherfucking Detroit pisses again when motherfuckers don't even but this is how you know They'll make it was good a defense you wasn't even I know bubson know them niggas was good at defense. You wasn't even...

I know, but I'm saying, did you give Wimby all that his first year? You know what I'm saying? Because it was real. And 29 minutes a night. Why you don't want to give Wimby? Because he only playing 29 minutes. He only playing 29 minutes a night.

Yeah, it was three and a half blocks, 29 minutes. It ain't fucking second to last. It don't matter. But even the difference, Wimby on the court versus Wimby off the court. But what I'm saying is defense is an individual war. Just like steals, just like assists, you can lose every game and average 11 assists a game. That's your war.

But you got to impact winning with defense player of the year. Yes. You can't be a defender player of the year and lost every damn near game. How the fuck do that add up? How do that add up? I'm the most defensive nigga ever, but we lost every game. You're doing your job. Come on, man.

How? How? If you got six blocks a game, like, if, let's say, without me, y'all scored 100 versus when he's not. When he's not scoring, like, when he's not on the court, remember, he's only playing 29 minutes. Only 29. So that means 19 minutes is.

You gotta win. But he's only playing 19 minutes. I know. So that means 19 minutes is all. You got to win. But he's only playing 19 minutes. No, he's not playing 19 minutes. I mean, 29. That's not playing 19 minutes. But what happened, like, think about every other award. Like, I can be a steals leader. We lose.

I'm going to get that award, right? Assist award, I'm going to get that. I ain't got to win shit. What you mean, steals? Rebound champ. You ain't got to win to be a rebound champ. They'll give you a fucking trophy? Rebound champ. You ain't got to win to be a rebound champ. They're going to give you a fucking trophy. Rebound champ.

Like for the most steals? Scoring champ. Scoring champ. I ain't got to win no motherfucking games. Hell no. So you're saying you could have the most steals in the league with the worst record and get defensive player of the year? No.

You're still champ. You're the steals champ. Oh, they ain't got a block champ? Yeah, he's the block champ. Well, he's the block champ. The scoring title. That score, I get that. I get that also. You should be happy with that. He ain't defensive player of the year. he's a block champ. Well, he's a block champ. He's scoring title. That score, I get that. I get that also.

He should be happy with that. He ain't defensive player of the year. He should be block champ. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Before we do, we did a poll. Who's better, KG or Tim Duncan? Back to our previous convo. 69% said Duncan.

Nearly 4,000 voters in that. You know what I mean? That's why I said that. They only know for him because of the accolades. That's why I said that. They only know for him because of the accolades. That's why I said that. But let's keep it moving. We got to talk about a bold claim that you made about your 2018 Warrior Squad. You posted the following tweet.

You said, best team ever. Curry, one or two. Best PG ever. KD, top five or six. Best player ever. Klay, top five. Best shooters ever. Dre, top ten.

Best playmaking bigs ever. Iggy, top five. Best shooters ever. Dre, top ten. Best playmaking bigs ever. Iggy, top five. Best defender. No championships team in any era beating this team. You said any era, but we know you made it. Yeah, my bad, my bad. You gotta get it out there. But Nick, gotta know, do you really...

Do you really... No, because era and era are both spelled correctly. But Nick, do you really believe the 2018 Warriors are the best team ever? assembled yeah, I think so just cuz you know, yeah, I might be in stuff and Katie together come on. I don't see it. Mm-hmm. I don't see it. I think if you got the Top two or three best players in both positions on one team it's hard to

be and when you got clay you got West you got Shawn Livingston Eagle dollar myself that's a great night you know or just that group itself yeah yeah 17 was it the same group in for 16 17 17 18 18 19 was that the same group for 16, 17, 17, 18, 18, 19? Was that the same group either way? No, no, no. Some adjustments. Because Nick wasn't there. Yeah, I wasn't there.

Nick talked about when he was there. It don't count. When I was there. My shit's there. I'm the best corner nigga ever. I'm top five best corner nigga. Top five best corner nigga of all time. Top five best corner nigga of all time.

Top five corner nigga ever. Okay. Top five corner. But, see, nice squad on that team. I like that. Hey, that's a new one. That's a new one. You were productive in your 17 minutes a game on that squad, though.

You were getting buckets. You were hoping as the young kids said. Who better than that? Name the team. I'm trying to think of the championship team. Okay. I mean, just on ratings, the 2016-17 Golden State Warriors, they were first in offense, second in defense in the league.

That was KD's first year. The year you were there, they were third in offense, 11th in defense. And we were seven. A lot of people didn't play until the championship. Steve Kerr was like, yeah, you can take the day off and shit like that. He was giving you all the tatum.

Yeah. Who better? I was thinking like Kobe and Shaq, but I was thinking the others. Then it was like Rick Fox or Klay and fucking Robert Ory with Eagle Dollar and shit like that. I'm thinking like, who match up with him? Hold on, hold on. I got one question. I got one question.

The 2001, 2, 3 version of Shaquille O'Neal. Who the fuck is going to guard him from y'all team? Who going to guard Steph and KD on that team? Who going to guard Shaq? Who going to start Steph and KD's threes? Derek Fisher was a damn good defender. He's not running off that many screens chasing Steph. Damn good defender.

Yes, he was. That's all he had to do. Man, Steph had that nigga. He got five of them. Like I said. He got five of them that many screens chasing him. Damn good defender. Yes, he was. That's all he had to do. Man, Stephan had that nigga. He got five of them. Like I said. He got five of them playing at the one. Yo, come on, man. Come on.

Same way they had fucking Tyronn Lueb wearing braids for Hayard. They would have had Tyronn Lueb running around for Curry. Ask my question. The nigga been a... That's the Curry thing. Who in y'all roster? Who's guarding him? Who's guarding Shaq?

Because Kobe's going to have to guard Klay. Y'all going to be in the penalty. Rick Fox got to guard KD. What the fuck going to happen to KD? What's going to check because kobe's gonna have to guard clay y'all gonna be in the pill rich fox got a guard kd game is over going to happen to kd what's gonna happen to rick's fox y'all in the pill nigga curl just gonna be swinging the niggas gonna have the guard trouble and who's guarding kobe think about it who's guarding kobe eagle dollar not a chance lunch me he got cheer he guarded me all right. The 2002, 2003 version of Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant. Nigga, you're not a champ. Eagle Dollar.

Eagle Dollar. Not, Lunch Me. Same height, strong. Lunch Me. Man, you crazy as hell. You seen what they do. You still ain't answer my question. Who's, I'm actually, who's gonna guard them?

So you're answering the question with a question. Yes, I'm gonna put all my centers on them. I'm gonna put Draymond, I'm going to put all my sinners on him. I'm going to put Draymond, Draymond, Draymond, they going to dunk him and fucking JaVale. They going to foul. Sinners on the free throw line. And now that's the problem.

Now Kobe getting attacked, right? So now Kobe gets attacked endlessly because now they're all in the penalty. He was in the league when Shaq was. That's what I'm saying, bro. It doesn't matter. Yes, it matters. You didn't see that guy. That team is not beating the Warriors.

That guy averaged. Go look at the final numbers. Shaq and Kobe top five. LeBron and Kyrie couldn't do it. Go look at them. That's not Kobe and Shaq. That ain't Kobe and Shaq. You got to come with a full team.

That ain't Kobe and Shaq. You got to come with a full team. Eating ain't Kobe and Shaq. You got to come with a full team. Eating y'all lunch. See, like that. Them versions. That team is guard heavy. Them versions. Lakers is more.

They just two people. Solid team. You don't have enough. Throw it in there to Shaq. As you pointed out, threes are worth more than two. Threes are worth more than two. Do you think they negate Shaq? You can't double.

Listen, one thing you can't do. Listen, who is knocking down shots? Derrick Fisher knocking that bitch down if you double. Robert Orr knocking it down. Even fucking Devin George made shots when we played him in the finals. Them niggas is getting cooked. Sound good. Throw it down to him.

They like this. Ramen noodles all day. Look at the numbers in the finals. Go look at the finals numbers. The. Look at the numbers in the finals. That's how they gonna look. Go look at the finals numbers. OK, the one I played against him in the finals. That's the old two. Old two finals.

That's old two. Go look at them numbers. They supposed to look like that versus y'all. Go look at them numbers. It's the same thing. We were bigger than y'all. Hell no. Y'all wouldn't have had a chance.

Our team was bigger than y'all. Y'all wouldn't have had a chance. Our team was bigger than y'all. Draymond would have dropped you. You would have tried to punch Draymond. You honestly don't believe that shit. 2002, Shaq averaged 36-12. You honestly don't believe that shit.

Listen to this. That's Brother Dallas right there. Listen to this. 2002 final, Shaq averaged 36-12, four assists, three blocks. Kobe averaged 27, six rebounds, five assists. How much did Rick Fox and Robert Ory and... Wait, hold on. Those two are matching your... No, no, no, no.

That's 60-something points. Oh, man, stop. Stop, man. I'm just mathematically... But now you bring Klay into the fold. Thank you. No, that's three. What? Klay's points, Kirby's points, and KD's points is averaging about 60.

Shaq and Kobe's cleaning that up. Remember, one is averaging 37. You're averaging 37 again. You better stop. 37 and 27. Stop. 37 and 27. No, and the man couldn't make free throws.

Stop, man. Y'all better get out of here. They're not beating him. Who was y'all's center? Who was y'all's center? Who was y'all's center? Who was y'all's center? We threw multiple people at him. We bet him.

Any center we have on y'all's team will start on y'all Warriors team. Who was y'all's center? Draymond Green. Yeah, David West, Draymond, and JaVale McGee. Boy, please. Damn, man. Who? David West couldn't do nothing with me.

David West strong. He wasn't stronger than me. Man, David West was an all-star. You said stronger. He wasn't stronger than me. Man, David West was an all-star. He wasn't. You said strong, but he wasn't stronger than me. I was an all-star, too. He was a bucket. I know.

I was an all-star, too. Thank you. And he wasn't stronger than me. We had fucking eight all-stars compared to one. He wasn't stronger than me. We had eight all-stars compared to two. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Two.

Bro, the nigga was, bro. He was a little bit on the edge, bro. He wasn't an all-star to go to war and shoot. He was dead. He was dead. I on the edge, bro. He wasn't all sorry to go to Ward's shoes. He was there. I was there. Kevin Willis out there. And listen. There wasn't nothing I'm doing, nothing with Shaq.

There wasn't nothing I'm doing, nothing with Shaq. Hey, nothing with Shaq. Man, Shaq played against him. And you never lined up with that version of him? That version of Shaquille O'Neal? That's like KD guarding Shaq. That version of Shaquille O'Neal. We had like KD Gardner's Shaq. That version of Shaquille O'Neal. We had Aaron Williams, who was by far, if not pound for pound, the strongest person in the NBA.

Aaron Williams? You fucking right. That light skin looking like he was like red. Look him up. Iron Man 3? No, this motherfucker was so strong. Listen, though, when I say so strong. Listen, dog. Listen, dog. When I say listen, lift the weight room.

Yeah. If Aaron Williams was 6'11", if he was 6'11", I ain't saying he could have. He had a better chance if he was just 6'7". But if strong. 6'7"? Aaron Williams? Listen, dog. You have no idea what I'm saying here.

6'7"? If you see his color, you're like, all right, that nigga look crazy. He was like in between albino, red, and brown. I don't know what you're talking about. KJ used to be scared of him and J. Kidd when he was little. When he was little, KJ used to run from him and cry. It would make him look transparent.

Yeah, that's what I said. Hey, it looked transparent like you looked through him. KJ used to cry. They're like. They used to say, hey, KJ, come on. Ah! Like. He would have been terrified. Yeah, you Aaron Williams color, nigga.

Yeah, you made me laugh. It was a little laugh. Yeah, you Aaron Williams color. I'm still not rolling, though. I'm just telling you this. I love Shaq and Kobe. I'm just letting you know. Them niggas average 60 against us.

And listen, so you got a choice to listen. So hear me out, Nick. You got a choice. Either you got to play him one-on-one. No, no. He's going to dunk it every time if you do. Or you got to double him. And guess what them niggas are doing?

Knocking that shit down. Because all they have to do is stand up and shoot the ball. So Shaq was at 36. Kobe was at 27. The next highest was Derrick Fisher at 13. Then you got Robert Dory at 10. I mean, Rick Fox at 10, Robert Dory at 8. How you beating that?

Go with it. Because he getting wide open shots. Because we double teaming. The only problem is, like, he think, like, the problem is this. We double teaming. It's not about your offense. It's not about your offense. It is.

It's not. Oh, we're doing two versus three. No, you're going to have to make all your offense. It's not about your offense. It is. It's not. Oh, we're doing two versus three. No, you're going to have to make all three. We will. You're acting like we're not going to make them. That's what we do. That's 13 and 10. You're acting like Steph is not going to make three.

Two do what? Or KD ain't going to make three. Or Klay ain't going to make three. That's what they do. No, it's not. It ain't equal in that. It ain't equal, right? It is.

Do the math. I'm doing the math. If you come down, Shaq dunk, and I come down, Steph three. You got to keep hitting. Coming down mid-range, two. KD come down, three. I'm doing the math. If you come down Shaq Dunk and I come down Steph 3, come down mid-range 2, KD come down 3, that's 6-4. Bonus. If we keep doing that shit, we're going to win. Bonus. You're going to have to say first of all.

You're going to have to foul right, though. Your lineup is going to change because of bonus. So you're not playing. Bonus. Your lineup is going to change because you're going to be in foul trouble. No, y'all are going to be in foul trouble. Y'all are going to be in foul trouble. No, y'all going to be in foul trouble. Y'all going to be in foul trouble. Y'all going to be in foul trouble.

You're not going to foul KD. Rick Clark's little ass is not fouling KD. Or Robert Ory. Who's drawing more fouls? Robert Ory is not standing. Who's drawing more fouls? Shaq is down there. Who's drawing more fouls?

And I'm thinking KD like this. He's the same height as Shaq. KD is not. First of all, KD is not. Who's drawing more fouls? First of all, you're not going in the lane until Shaq has two fouls. Who's John? You're not going to go in there.

Whoever goes in there is getting fucked up on the first one. So you're not going in there. Boom. I believe that. Hey, Vince Carter was the best dunker in the league, right? I know one nigga he did not dunk on. Who's John? I know one nigga he did not even try to dunk on.

Yes. Shaquille O'Neal. You can be like this. Go. That's me. That'd be a step-back jumper. That's me and your whole stuff. That'd be a step-back jumper. dunk on yes she kill O'Neal you can be like this I'm scared I'm scared I'm scared to go home now. Hey, you going in that motherfucker? Hey, I bet you won't go home with Shaq. He hit you one time. Holy shit, I'm so pissed. So you think I was afraid to go in that bitch?

This shit right here. Do you think I was afraid to go to the rim on anybody ever? This shit right here. I'm not talking about that. I'm saying what he said. But you say, do you think I was afraid to go to the rim against anybody in the history of basketball? Let me see, in 2011 with Shaq.

In that motherfucker? No, the 2002 version of it took away he could probably brother knowledge that Yeah Ready he buried he ain't trying to go here jumping with you. He coming all 300 and working on one back boom kick him go he kept going back. Boom! He kept going back and probably getting fouled. Who? I'm telling you. Nah, nobody...

Nah, you ain't gonna keep doing that. Shit. That shit hurt. Remember, the reason he didn't get in foul trouble is because everybody was scared to admit. I'm saying... Who's drawing more fouls? He love fish, man.

He's not staying in front of Curry. It ain't about him. It ain't about him. Curry's the motherfucking best point guard ever. And you saying he ain't shit compared to... I'm saying you're forcing... It is. Curry's the motherfucking best point guard ever. And you said he ain't shit compared to... You guys are 100% forced to shoot jumpers. That's what we want to do.

They would have to change their lineup. What did Steph do in the Olympics? What did he just say? You have to change your lineup because of Shaq, for sure. So who's starting at the five? So who's going to guard Shaq? Foul trouble. JaVale McGee, you going to start JaVale? I'll start West to start off. Okay, start West.

All right, and then who was that the Lakers for? Robert Ory. Okay, so who's going to guard Robert Ory? Who's going to guard KD? That's Robert Ory. That's KD. So KD at your four. So who's at your three? Iguodala. Iguodala, so that's...

So that's probably Ron... Rick Fox. Rick Fox, so... Yeah. No, what they're gonna do is they're gonna put... How much for KD? They're gonna put Rick Fox on KD and then Robert Horry on Iguodala. Okay.

Yes. And then you got Kobe and Klay. Kobe and Klay. And Fisher and Curry. And what's gonna happen is Kobe's gonna guard Curry, the young one. And he can't. And Rick Fox is gonna go guard... Sorry, I love Kobe, but he's not gonna... They're gonna keep it that way. I believe it. I believe it. They're gonna keep him guard Klay. Kobe's gonna guard curry and young he came in Rick Fox is gonna go guard

They're gonna keep Guard clay, I believe I'm gonna keep it that way and then just Kobe's gonna roam Yep, Rome and leave play. Oh, you got a bit. You got to run a play for day first You don't stop you gonna put him in Eagle Dollar? You're going to put him in Eagle Dollar? You're going to put him in Eagle Dollar? You're going to put him in Eagle Dollar? You're going to put Kobe in Eagle Dollar? You're going to put Kobe in Eagle Dollar? It's going to be a rough night for Eagle Dollar. You got to try to guard him for one of you. Kobe's going to let Eagle Dollar good on Kobe. You say Eagle Dollar top five defender ever?

No, what I'm saying is Kobe, no, no, no. You're going to dope with all food. Kobe will guard Eagle Dollar. I'm somebody's physician. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Kobe will guard Eagle Dollar. He said it in a tweet.

Kobe will guard Eagle Dollar Colb can roam. Nigga, stop. He want MVP off of Locker LeBron. What you think you're going to do to Colby? You're not hearing what I'm saying. I said he's going to guard. Colby's going to guard equal dollar. This is your guy.

You're staying wrong. I said he's going to guard. Colby's going to guard him so he can roam, so Colby can roam, so Colby can dance. So that means equal dollar is going to have to take all the shots. What? Yes. They're going to force him to shoot every shot. So Kobe's going to be sitting here just like this.

That'd be a good series, but I think it's too much Shaq. Nick, Nick, you said? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Damn. Fucking up. Fucking up. I told you all about that shit.

Yeah. You keep talking. You're wrong. This is like my second time. What I'm saying is, are you listening to what I'm saying? Are you listening? Fucking up. Fucking up. They told y'all about that shit. Yeah. You keep talking. You're wrong. You're wrong. This is like my second time. What I'm saying is, are you listening to what I'm saying?

Are you listening? I'm saying Kobe's on defense, nigga, not offense. Hey. Okay. His mama named Shaquille. He's on defense. So I'm saying he's not going to be guarding Iguodala. He's going to be helping.

Mama, you the real MVP. People call him Shaq. His mama named Shaquille. What KD say, mama, you the real MVP? Who's guarding that man? Would you take that team or would you take the team that... It don't matter what team. The one team that went 15 and won?

No, no, no, no, no. The Gary Payton, Karl Malone team that came in. No, no, no, no. I'm not taking that. No. Who gives a fuck about the end? No, I'm talking about the end. They lost.

Thank you. Live. Live. They lost to Detroit Pistons. You think that team would lose to Detroit? No, I know why you say that. Why did would lose to Detroit? I know why you say that. I know why you say that, team. Who got hurt? Who got hurt?

Nobody. Carmelone got hurt. Man, nobody cared about the old-ass Carmelone. But he got hurt. Stop, man. Stop. Carmelone was 45 years old. They stopped the shooting.

They couldn't shoot the ball outside at the forest. Stop. You can't say nothing to me. You lose to Detroit. I just played against them. So, Nick, you said Iggy won the finals MVP for locking LeBron down. Thank you. LeBron, 2015 stats, 36 points per game, 13 rebounds, 9 assists.

Wait, wait, wait. 36, 13, and 9. 36, 13, and 9? 36, 13. But that honestly is locking up LeBron. Locked him up. He should have been MVP of the finals. Kyrie got hurt.

36, 13, and 9, and they locked him up. LeBron James should have been MVP of the finals. Kyrie got hurt. 36-13-9, and they locked him up. LeBron James should have been MVP of the finals. I believe he got four of the 11 votes. Iggy got the other seven. But you still didn't say why the Lakers... Gary Payton averaged 14. I think it'd be a good series. I think it'd be a good series.

Come on, they lost to Detroit. No, no, no, not that team. That's the same team, ain't it? Nah. Whoever won out of us in Detroit. That's that last year when Kobe and them lost. We would have won. When they was going through that drama.

We didn't know yet. So that was an old ass Robert Orr. He retired after that, right? That old two, old three. I mean, that big a series. But I just think Shaq. I don't know. It's just the only one person.

It's Shaq. How you going to? No, man. Man, we got. Every night. Hurry! KD! You better hit. You better be hitting. You're not even thinking basketball. As I am! God damn, you can't say one person is more dominant

than the other person. He's the most dominant player ever. Zach's the most dominant player ever, though. He was dominant against fucking Ben Wallace. So you can't be the most dominant player ever if you. He was the dominant against fucking Ben Wallace. So you can't be the most dominant player ever. You lose to Ben Wallace. It's Ben Wallace who stopped you. Give me their final score.

You can't be the most dominant nigga ever. We know what it is. Curry's final score? Give me the final scoring of that finals that they scored. We swept him. 2018? We swept him. Okay, let's see what they averaged.

So I'm going to read the averages to you. We swept each other out. So KD averaged 29, 11 rebounds, 8 assists. Steph averaged 28, 6 rebounds, 7 assists. Klay averaged 16, 4 rebounds, and 8 assists. And then Draymond averaged 9, 6, and 9. Yeah. It's easy.

I think it was a sweep. It was over. 37 and 27. Stop, bro. I don't care what he's saying. 13, 10. Somebody else averaged 10 as well. I don't care what he's saying. I know. 13-10. Somebody has to have a team as well.

He don't realize you're big. I don't care what y'all saying. That's not happening. One, you're going to have at least 25 fouls on Shaquille O'Neal. So what makes them not foul KD? Because y'all don't make fouls. So Rob Orr is not going to foul KD. Y'all don't.

Are you saying Rob Orr? Ain't nobody fouling jump shooters. You're telling me, Rob Orr. Ain't nobody fouling jump shooters. You're telling me, Rob Orr. Ain't nobody fouling jump shooters. You're shooting jumpers, though. Ain't nobody fouling jump shooters, Nick. How many free throws does he shoot? How many free throws does y'all shoot?

How many free throws does Curry shoot for him to foul? How many free throws does KD shoot? Exactly. Both of them combined. Eight? Nine? Both of them combined. One's getting 20-something.

How many fouls? The thing is, down there lost to Sacramento with fucking Pesovic being their star player. Stop playing with me, bro. You talking about Shaquille O'Neal. Mike Pesovic and Pesovic. You saying Durian can't get in. Story Akers.

You're not taking them niggas to the. And go look with Shaq Harris. Come on, man. Yeah, the nigga Story Akers. Story Akers. Story Akers. And go look what he asked him. And Raleigh Divac, nigga.

Raleigh Divac, Packer B, and fucking Mike. Bonnie Divac. Put them to game seven down 20. And they got to do the fly. Stop playing, bro. Best player we lost. Bally be botched Game seven Bro And then Lobb was against Portland It was game seven Sacramento game seven, but you but you but you Is by seven who they play?

Both of them they took both the game seven together both was game. We're having both game. We're but you don't know game seven. Just buy seven. We're just playing for a plan Both of them they took both the game seven together. Both was game seven both game seven. It don't matter We're not taking over who won a sandwich with a sweet who won and a bit of sweet who won fucking see if it's a Occupation for Haiti and it anyone anyone and that's Sacramento team 161 games Oh, like I said, like I said who won and y'all said. Who won? And y'all saying they... Name one... Who won the championship that year? Like, so... Who won the championship that year? BBR Curry. We ain't talking about that team.

We gotta just do this to the man. I'm just gonna do the man. If you take a team... We're talking about the Lakers here. If you take a team to seven... We're talking about the Lakers here. We're taking a team to seven. We're talking about the Lakers here.

I'm saying a team that took a team to seven. We're talking about the 2002 Lakers. You took a team to game seven. 2002 Lakers. This team took the team to game seven. If I take a team to game seven, that's a career. 2002 Lakers. That's a career in Sacramento. Okay, who won?

That's a career. Who won? That's a career. Who won? Game seven. Who did they win in the first? Who won? Bibby or Curry?

Who won? Bibby or Curry? They ain't never played. Bibby or Curry? They ain't never played. Bibby or Curry? They ain't never played. Curry.

Curry for sure. Fucking Pedakovich or Clay. Pedakovich. Pedakovich oribi or Curry? All right. That's great. Fucking Pesdakovich or Clay? Pesdakovich. Pesdakovich or Clay? Clay. All right. KD or? Wait, hold on.

Pesdakovich. Hey, hold on. 2018. 2018. 2018. I like Pesdakovich. 2018, you went to seven with the Rockets. I like Pesdakovich.

2018, you went to seven with the Rockets. Fucking Doug Christie. Who won? Doug Christie. Who won? Doug Christie. Who won? Or who? Who won? Anybody. Who won? Eagle Dollar or K Christie. Who won? Doug Christie. Who won? Doug Christie. Who won? Or who?

Or anybody. Who won? Eagle Dollar. Who won? KD. Who won? Or because he's going to guard KD. He's going to guard KD.

Who won? All right. What was it? Who won? It was Weber. Yeah, Weber. That's it. That's the only person that wins.

No, Peja beats Klay. Man, you fucking. Stop, man. Stop. Do you know how much Klay? Do you know how much? All right. All right.

Peja never scores 60 points with 13 dribbles. How much did Peja? How much did Peja? Man, you f- Who won? Stop, man, stop. Do you know how much Clay- Man, stop, man. All right, cuz, all right. Penn's actually never scored 60 points with 13 dribbles, nigga. How much did Penn get? Stop playing, man. How much did Penn get? Stop playing. Stop playing with this team, bro.

Stop playing. Stop playing. Stop playing. With the Lakers team that they had to play, who won? They had one shooter, and they barely won game seven. With the Lakers team that they had to play, who won? It don't matter. Damn the hypothetical matchup that you just made up.

Sacramento wouldn't even f-ing have a chance. Play average 20. Who won Lakers? Who won the Lakers't matter. That's the hypothetical matchup that you just made up. Sacramento wouldn't even fucking have a chance. Who won against the Lakers in Sacramento? Who won against the Lakers in Sacramento? Valet Divas took Shaq to game seven. Who won? Valet Divas. Who won?

Valet Divas took Shaq to game seven. So they went to the finals? Game seven. They went to the finals? Western Conference finals. Is that the NBA finals? It don't matter. Is that the NBA finals?

Who didn't play? So you like almost. This shit happens. So you like almost. I'm just saying the team. So you like almost. The team that took the game to game 7. Who won? Rockets were up 3-2.

The team that took the game to game 7. Who won? Who won? Who won? Hold on. You took the. Who won? That year they took the Rockets to game 7.

Fuck. You think the Rockets would compete with Sacramento Kings? Rockets were up 3-2. Yep. And you think they would have competed with the Sacramento Kings? On them? What? You crazy?

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Sacramento didn't beat the Lakers. So I don't know why we're talking about that. What the fuck you talking about?

He's in coverage. They need to kill everybody on the mother fu- I was- Sacramento didn't beat the Lakers. Hey, I can be the Lakers. So why to kill everybody on the mother fu- I wish- Sacramento didn't beat the Lakers. Hey, Doc, I'm going to stay in front of James. Stop playing, man. Hey, I'm going to be- Fuck.

Stop, man. Stop. I don't care that Sacramento team is not playing. Hey, did Sacramento beat the Lakers? Huh? Did the Kings beat the Lakers in the playoffs? It don't matter. It took them a game seven.

But we're talking about who they played. We're talking about the Kings. But he was like, they went to game seven. His team went to game seven against the Rockets. One time. One time. Against the Rockets. One time.

Down three, two, three, three, got it. Down three, the Rockets. One time. The whole team was 5-5. Down 3-2. The whole team was 5-5. Are you crazy? And the team had to go. Listen, them niggas had to go. James and them, right? They had to miss 27 straight threes for y'all to win.

0 for 27. They missed. They went 0 for 27. They missed 27 straight threes. For you to win. At home. At home. What did the Kings have to do? If you're Lakers, what did the Kings have to do?

Stop it. If you're down 20, what do the Kings have to do? What do the Kings have to do if you up 20 and the Lakers come back and win? What do they have to do

to win? What? If the Kings is up 20 and the Lakers come back and win, what do the Kings have to do? They have to miss the next 50 shots.

They missed the same amount of shots, motherfuckers. They missed the same amount of shots. They missed shots. 27 straight shots. They missed shots. Everybody missed shots. 27 straight threes.

Goddamn. 27 straight threes. Nobody missed 27 straight threes. Yes, they did. That's a fact. It's a fact. 27 straight threes, but they didn't shoot five threes. That's a fact.

They didn't shoot only threes. That's a fact, though. 27 straight threes. You didn't get 27 shots in a row. We didn't say in a row. We said it went over 27 and they didn't get 27 threes. They missed 27 straight threes. And y'all came back.

If the Kings take 27 threes in a whole game, they're going to lose 27. You're going to lose 27. You're going to lose 27. You're going to lose 27. We said it went 0-27 and they laid 27-3. And y'all came back. Did the Kings take 27-3's in a whole game? Y'all was losing. But y'all was losing. So back to the question. Did the Sacramento Kings beat the Lakers? Did the Kings take 27-3's in a whole game?

No. So how did they get in this conversation? Because he said that, Gil basically said that that Houston team that they went to game seven. So we're talking ifs and ifs. That Houston team that they played against wouldn't have beat the Sacramento Kings. I said they wouldn't have beat the Sacramento Kings. They wouldn't have.

I know they wouldn't have. They wouldn't have. So that's what you're saying because he said the Lakers had to go. Stop, man. Lakers went game seven against every fucking team in the West. You're talking about who can go in turn. The East was ass. They only swept the East.

They only swept the East. Game seven against Portland, the old-ass fucking Scottie Pippen. Who else? It was an old Scottie Pippen. Don't act like it was young Scottie Pippen. And that Portland team. Old-ass fucking...

They wanted to beat the Portland team. That Portland team was good. Houston wanted to beat the Portland team. Who was on the team? Name the nigga. So, Damon Sotomayor, Scottie Pippen, Bonzi Wells. Sheed Wallace. Sheed Wallace.

Steve Smith. Y'all, they're big heavy. Y'all are guard heavy. But y'all don't have no one. Different year, but okay. Right? You saying no one can compete with them? Different year?

You have nobody. How many times have we won game seven? Hey. How many times have the Warriors won game seven? Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Just once, right? But who won? Who won you this Katie. I'm actually this just once right but who won Who won we did I'm just I'm just the Lakers. I'm not ready to speak up

Y'all win games that one though that we games any y'all I don't shift like boys portly Who wants this fucking one day you can we were working hard to save one time you can't do that comparison I'm just saying you you're talking about there game seven one time. You can't do that comparison. Who won? I'm just saying, you're talking about your team. There's only one winner, one loser, right? There's only one person that your team is not built to handle. I don't bet.

It's Shaquille O'Neal. And it's three niggas that your team is not built to handle. Y'all don't even survive. What I'm saying is y'all have to go through. You know how many people you got to go through the bench just to guard. Like your whole game changes. You know how many people you got to go through the bench just to guard. Like, your whole game changes. You know how many people you got to go through the bench just to guard two niggas.

No, nobody. And stop. They're jump shooters. They're jump shooters. Because they're jump shooters. There's only one way to settle this debate. Stop, stop. Like, you're shooting jump shooters.

Two-case simulation. Take it to two-case. Two-case simulation. He's literally fouling your team out. Stop. Because we know in that game, two people can't be guarded. Fucking Steph. Stop.

KD. You act like KD don out. Fucking Steph. Stop. KD. You act like KD don't post up. You act like KD don't go to the hole. You act like KD don't only shoot threes. Alright, bro. Stop. So KD's average... He's at 27 free throws in one game? Like, you got... Go to State Warriors. They cry

about trying to get fouled because they shoot jumpers. Bro, what did Steph just do in the Olympics? Shoot a jumper. Damn, what did this jumper... They complete they cry about trying to get filed because they shoot jumper what this step is doing Olympics Added to the conversation What I'm saying He added the Olympics to the conversation. What? Yeah, damn. How about this? In 2024. What's the latest? What I'm saying is. What's the latest? You're arguing on the same. You're not arguing the same point.

I'm saying. I'm saying this guy. I'm saying this guy right here. They're passing the ball down to him. He's trying to dunk. Either it's going to be a dunk or you're going to foul him. How many fouls before your team is in trouble, right? At some point, you're in.

How many three's is in trouble? How many three's is in trouble? It don't matter. What I'm saying is at some point in the fourth quarter, you're going to be at, what, five players left, four players left? Because he's fouling everybody. You can't shoot free throws. It don't matter.

It don't matter. You still got to foul them. The foul steal counts. The foul steal counts. Whether he make or miss the free throw to stab, the foul steal counts. All right, so when you miss two free throws, then we make a three. The foul steal counts. So when you miss two free throws, then we make a three.

The foul steal counts. Foul. Foul. Foul steal counts. If you miss another two, we make a three. The foul steal counts. All right, foul. The foul steal counts.

So that's nine points to be in. So y'all scoring every possession. That's 12. So y'all scoring every possession nine points me so y'all scored every position as 12 so y'all scored every position they could y'all ain't 50 Y'all soon every position here 50 what I'm saying is But he took a team y'all shot a hundred you like a like check Teams against y'all shot a hundred percent. We're gonna be me to the game. Y'all shot 100% from the field. Every team he took the game down. Nick, y'all shot 100% from the field. And the nigga lost a shit. Nick, y'all shot 100% from the field, Nick. Old ass 45, Michael Jordan. Nick, y'all shot 100% from the field.

The nigga lost to fucking Michael Jordan, Scottie Pitchard, and shit. The most dominant nigga in the world. Nigga, Luke Lonely locked the nigga up. Doing that year. Hey, Grant hit and fucking Grant. What year was that, 17, 18? So he said 17, 18 team, right?

Grant locked the nigga up, but he going to get locked up. 17, 18. Did y his brother, Harold Brent, locked the nigga up, but he gonna get locked up. 17, 18, did y'all shot 100% from the field? Valle Divas locked the nigga up, but nobody else can fucking do it. Who won? I'm just saying. Who won? Valle Divas locked him up.

So what did the average against Valle Divas? Sabonis locked him up, but nobody else can do it. One second. Please go look up the numbers. Sabonis on Portland, right? Go look up his career numbers against Sacramento. Fuck anything else. Go look up his career numbers against Sacramento. Fuck anything else. Go look up his career numbers against Sacramento.

No, no. Look at the playoffs. We'll go to that series, 2002. What is his average? Shaquille O'Neal against the Kings averaged 30 points, 14 rebounds. So they locked him up. No, you said they locked Shaq up. All right.

Nigga, that's talking up. If you had 36 and now you got 30, that's locking up. I don't care. Your man going to get it. They have 37 in the finals. Thank you. He went up. He averaged 30. If you had 36 and now you got 30, that's locking up. I don't care. Your man going to get it. They averaged 37 in the finals. Thank you. He went up. Like I said, that.

He went up. He didn't go back. So that means y'all worse defenders than fucking Vyde, whatever niggas they is. Vyde, DeVyde. The two players themselves averaged Kropine 19 free throws. Oh, man.

They're not guarding Steph. What I'm saying is they average 19. We're talking one of those playoffs. We're not saying guarding them. We're saying these two. You got two people. You can't tell me one person is more dominant than the next. One is averaging 39 and 37 a game.

And he's fouling your whole team out. That's a different game. You can shoot all the jumpers you want. Did he foul out anybody? Everybody fouled out. You want to see my team? How about this? Go to State Ward.

Let me show you my team. Let me show you the niggas on my team that just got put on the team because we had to guard this nigga four times. Just please listen to all these bigs. Yo, listen to all these bigs that he had on his team. Well, I don't know none of the niggas he had.

I know none of them either. Exactly. Me neither. I didn't know the niggas either. Where's Valle Divas ranked in your top centers? Who? 100? I don't know. What the shit?

Like I said. And he locked it down? Fucked Kobe's shack up. Did that? Who won? Game seven. Did his job. Who won? Game seven. So that job. Who won? Game seven. So that's all that matters? Go to game seven.

That's all that matters? They swept y'all, ass. So they go to game seven. It was 4-0 against New Jersey. It was 4-0 against everybody else. But when Violet Divas got on the dash, game seven. I was in my second year and I averaged 22 in the finals. They could stop watching it.

They was like, man, the Lakers lost, man. They about to get their ass whipped by Sabonis. Yo, I was in my second year and I averaged 22 in the man. They're about to get their ass whipped by Sabonis. Yo, I was in my second year, and I averaged 22 in the finals. I remember they was down 20, man. Sabonis. I'm talking about in my second year. I had a nigga on my team named Guy Rucker. Never seen him.

Don't know when he got on the team. In my second year, I averaged 22 in the finals. Hey, you ever heard of Guy Rucker? 35 in game four. No. Can he please not catch a stray on the Lord's Thursday, no, I'm just saying I had a dude on my team named Guy Rucker at The center part. I don't even know who thank you You come in for fat we need we know the power we needed body like that moves and shit

Check with the new one down here killing it. That's like that. Stop. He just put his fat ass Let's keep this thing moving. Stop it. Stop. Everybody. You're arguing about a guy you've never seen play. I did see him play. Now I'm a Laker fan. Of course I've seen him play. I watch the screen like you watch the screen. We both see old ass Shaq. So you watch

the screen. That Shaq is... So you watch the screen. And I got bitchy. I can know KD. This is for a team better than that team. Until you had to go out there and see him running than that team. Until you had to guard that motherfucker and see him running down the floor. Until you had to guard KD, you understand what I'm talking about. You got a decision.

I had to guard KD. Hell no, you must have it. I had to guard him, too. I had to guard KD. We're not talking about are they good. We're talking about you going to be in foul trouble. There was no team adjusters automatically. There was no adjustment pregame when we had to guard KD.

And Robert Oren's going to be in foul trouble, too. You don't gain fouls, y'all. You got four fouls, five free throws. Let's keep it moving. DKD can't go past Robert Ory. It ain't about how many fouls. We're telling you two people are

gaining 19 to 20 free throws between these two. How many fouls do you think they got to have to average that many free throws? You know how many fouls you got to get into the penalty before you even get to the free throw line. How many niggas is fouling out? The same way...

Y'all went for it. And Sabonis did. Sabonis and Fowler-Devos did. And you don't have those guys. And they went home. You don't even have the bodies. Who want them guys? Draymond Green won't even be in the game

Won't them like I don't matter like we won't them you got it Somebody got somebody got a funny one of them on there that took them get somebody got to stay in front of him Or you gonna have for listen if you don't follow me go have a hundred points What the fuck what the fuck he's talking about if you can't guard for Stockovich and Doug, the nigga average 37. He couldn't shoot free throws. Why'd he shoot from the free throw line in that series, right? How many free throws did he shoot in the finals? I guess so.

Think about it. He can't shoot free throws average 37. Please, and how many free throws did he miss? Statman, Statman, give me one second. Please, Statman. He would've made free throws. Valiant D-Box fouled out. I just want to know.

Hell yeah, he fouled. Of course. I mean, yeah. Give me one second. Who you stat me? Hey, I'll... He would've made free throws. He would've... Valle Divac filed out. I just wanna know. Hell yeah, he filed. Of course. All right, show us. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I don't think he filed.

Valle Divac filed out three times in the series against the Lakers. Three times. Yeah, how many... It took him game seven. How many people filed out? Four times he didn't. I'll check. What I'm saying is...

So, four times he didn't. They had somebody to file... You don't got nobody down there. I just named three things we got. Hold on. Hold on. Listen, hold on. We got... Hold on, hold on. Listen, hold on. Hold on. Shaq shot 67% from the free throw line, with 45 for 68. That's perfect. 45 for 68. Now think about it.

Because they're in the penalty, let's go to Kobe. Now let's go to now. How aggressive was Kobe get when you're in the penalty? That was four games. Now because you're in the penalty, now you got to try to go. Nick, he shot 60 free throws in four games six day free throws in four games You as he said he can't make them he shot

Why not in their games if you bought the duck on me I'm following you gonna miss a freak though, of course That's the only gonna dunk the bitch. Okay. I come down again. I come down again. What you going to do? I come down again. Hold on. Hold on. I come down again. He's going to foul me.

I come down again. Can somebody bring their pitch up with us in the finals? So the Warriors have the team. Hold on. Hold on. Shaq in the ball. Shaq shot 60 what? How many?

68 free throws. He shot by himself. By himself. Warriors have the team in four games. Shot 67. He shot the ball. By himself. Warriors has a team in four games, shot 67 free throws. He shot four games. Do threes, the Lakers shot it. He shot four free throws. Do the threes, the Lakers shot it.

You're not listening, dog. It does. 51 free throws made. Three points made. I want to do three-point makes versus the Lakers, man. He shot. You're going to do one point. I want to do another point.

51 to 29. Thank you. 51 to 29. 51 to 29. Warriors made 51 threes in their switch. You're not listening. 61 to 29. No, no, to 29. 51 to 29. We're not going to hear it no more. You're not listening. 61 to 29. No, no.

Free throws versus threes. You're saying you're going to get to the free throw line. The one person by himself. 51 to 20. He shot more free throws than the whole team. 51 to. What was it? Hold on.

What was it? It don't matter. 51 to 29 on threes. Think about what I'm saying. 51 to. 51. And he shot more free throws than your whole team. Think about what I'm saying. 51 to... And he shot more free throws than your whole team. That means you have to foul. 60 fucking...

58. You're not speaking of 67. Which is good. Listen, Kenyon. This is what he's not watching. You say you're guarding Shaq. He can't shoot for this. You foul him, right?

Next play. He misses both. He missed both of them. He come down same position. You're gonna foul him again, right? Two fouls in the first one minute sit your stupid ass on the court because you can't play with two fouls in the corner So with Shaq dunk they go shoot we all shoot a three. So y'all shot 100%. Yeah, I said 100, nigga. When Shaq dunk, it don't matter. We shot 34 threes. Did y'all shoot 100%? 34 threes down there.

So did y'all shoot 100%? The foul. So y'all shot 100% in those threes? Yes. In the 51 that y'all made, y'all shot 100%? Yes. Fuck out of here. Yes.

Nigga, you got shot 38% from 38. 38, nigga. The Lakers shot 48, but on a much lower volume. So 38, 48. If I shoot more, of course you're going to be the... Come on, man. Y'all shot 100%. But I mean...

Remember, this is just Shaq who beat you in free throws. Now let's add the motherfucking Mambo. You can't tell me nothing if you go game... Kobe shot 36 free throws. 29 for 36. And Pudakovich. Here. A lot of free throws.

A lot of free throws. What I'm saying is, think about the free throws in four games. Look at that pitch. Look at this pitch. That's a... That is a... Who the fuck is that?

Four. Five people. Y'all can't even do nothing with that. You don't have nobody to jump. But what I'm saying is, look at the muscles on you. Look at the muscles on you motherfuckers. Aaron's 6'7", 6'8". Keith Van Horn's 6'10".

I'm 6'10". J.K.'s 6'5". Lucian's 6'5". Shaq the best player ever then. Most definitely. He should have been. Arguably. The best player ever.

We just should not bring up Jordan, Kobe, nobody. LeBron Shaq, the best player ever. We didn't say the best. No, no, no, no. Most dominant. No one. Have you heard anybody? He says, I'm the most dominant.

When he says, I'm the most dominant player ever, have you heard one fucking person say, no, you ain't? Not one. Not a past. Not a past. Not a future. Not Stephen A. No one said. No.

I think so. I say LeBron. Who? What? All right. With that said. Let's keep this thing moving. With the NFL season starting tonight,

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Niggas didn't say nothing about the Bulls. There's nobody else but Lakers. We brought the team in. We knew we'd win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We brought the team. Like, we ain't dumb. We ain't social media.

So the Bulls couldn't compete with the Lakers? We said we brought the team and we knew we'd win. We brought the team. That wouldn't win. That wouldn't win. That wouldn't win. Like any who, like the Bulls versus the Warriors is guard play versus guard play. Mediocre big play. Mediocre big play from both.

That would be a great answer. I won. The Draymond and Dennis Rodman are both going to get kicked out the game. I won. I won. I won. I won. Back to back.

Back to back. Back to back. Back to back. Back to back-to-back. We're going to be having each other. Back-to-back. Back-to-back. Back-to-back. I won back-to-back. I won back-to-back. Hey, Draymond and Dennis Robinson are going to be playing with balls. Balls.

Because we think the Warriors probably could beat the Bulls. So that's not even, we're not even arguing that. Have you noticed that? Like the Bulls as the best team in the country. We're like, Warriors? So the Magic. Y'all still talking about that? Boston and Magic couldn't beat them like warriors so the matter Boston imagine can be talking about the Lakers Boston in the early Matt Lakers That's for another show

I like the Lakers when you won the showtime team, let's maybe one of the showtime I don't know what What about Miami Heat? Next week on Gil's Arena. So what about that Miami Heat team with Braun? With Braun. Braun, D-Wade, Bosh, Bray Allen, the motherfuckers. What about that team against y'all? It's guard play against guard play.

So it's like both don't got the back end. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We have more things to talk about this September, but now we're going to get to mostly fans. Our first question is from... You like that one? I'm saying. We have more things to talk about this September, but now we're going to get to mostly fans. Our first question is from... You like that one? I'm not rolling with y'all just saying, just because Shaq, he lose.

No, I'm just saying he changes it. But you think that Miami? What, better than Shaq in the league? No, no, no. No, no, I said no team can beat this team, so that means nobody. It don't matter. You just said you...

They lost to Dallas. Let's get to our first MostlyFans question. Still the same team. First MostlyFans question from UnderdogUser, named NoHairlineJosh. Said, good afternoon, Gills Arena crew. I don't have a video question, but I have a question. Do you think I should let my hair go? My apologies. My name is Joshua S. We have a photo question, but I have a question. Do you think I should let my hair go? My apologies.

My name is Joshua S. We have a photo. You asshole, dog. We have a photo of... Oh. Damn. Oh, shit. That shit peasy as a motherfucker.

Look like his name is Rupert. Rufus. Look like his name is Rupert. Hey, Rupert. Nah, y'all can't... Rupert? Rupert? No, I'm just saying.

Rupert? I mean... Nah, hell no. Teddy P, baby to that, bro. No, I'm just saying, it like... I mean... Nah, hell no. Teddy P, baby. What's with Rupert? I'ma tell you this, he might be a LeBron fan, because LeBron is the only person that don't want to let his shit go.

Because if he was a Jordan fan, he would let it go. Samuel L. Jackson and Daniel. Oh, man. If you're tuning in now, we gonna be the one. I'ma tell you, just go on ahead and go home, dog. Nah, keep that thing. Keep it for as long as you can don't do it Oh God keep it forget it And he got he got listen he got any got a bread. No, I know you got a bad grade dog Don't leave that good the job. That's the Indian hair No, I ain't gonna

Know this is a lot of work in brushing. That's a bad grade That shit peasy as a motherfucker that kind of like that shit look like cat hair a little bit That's okay. Just hold it. Just Just hold it down just a little bit. That shit's easy. Look like that nappy pussy. And that's the bad proof. He hoop though. Think about it.

That movie. He hoop though. That don't look like the bad proof. It might make him more aerodynamic. It might make him more aerodynamic. That's the bad proof. That's the bad proof. That's that Derek White.

That's that Derek White, right? If he grew it. If he grew that butt, fuck it. Our next question from underdoguserish24. He's funny for sending that. That was the question. Yeah, he let it go. He funny.

Oh, shit. I say just put a do-rag on. You good to go. I'm getting a toupee. He should get 100. I'm never going to do it. Hey, can we give him 100, please? It would fit as a video question.

Get a lace front. Next question from underdoguserish24. He said, all these debates y'all do, like 2018 versus 92 or Lakers 0-2 versus the Warriors. Why not run a seven-game 2K simulation? Y'all think we're on to something? I'm going to take credit for that one. I like playing with you. You wouldn't be on my team then.

You play together. No, no, no. You said what now? Pause. No pause. No pause. No pause. No pause. What did said what now? Paul. No Pauls. No Pauls. No Pauls. No Pauls.

Wait, what did you say? You said run a simulation? Can we do some 2K simulations? We already are doing our all-time draft simulations. We're still ongoing. Well, you know, our teams are in the new 2K25 now. So you got LeBron's era. You got Steph's era is in there.

My team is in there. I saw me. Oh, speaking of 2K25. You on there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the Steph era. What? No, in the Steph era. Oh, yeah? So it's like different eras different air. So I think like you guys will be in the LeBron's air

Mm-hmm. Like only the only mm-hmm. I've been on the game. Oh, I signed the contract yet. So you that light-skinned nigga I'm looking at my team. I got like I'm trying to win a game. I got eight Niggas on my team. Oh So you gonna find it or what? But you should have them redo like all your new taxes if we gonna play we playing right after this We playing right after this on no chill. Gil. Oh, no, Joe Gil 2025 Right awesome, and I'm gonna give out I'm gonna give out a coat running to K gave codes out. Yeah gave codes for everybody I want to give it to y'all. So I'm gonna give out a coat running to K gave codes out. Yeah game codes for everybody. I want to give it to y'all So I'm just running over the game. Give it to the fans. Yeah, I'm gonna give out codes. I got two I got a

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That's right. Who and O. We'll see if the Ravens can get it done tonight. Gil, Rams are trash, but we appreciate you. Yeah, Rams are trash. Thank you for supporting Los Angeles. Who and O, baby. Take your ass back to St. Louis.

We came from here. We went down to St. Louis. That Ferguson shit got a little hot out there. Yeah, but wasn't the Raiders here first? The Raiders was here first, right? Let me get the fuck on out of here. Raiders came second. Let me get the fuck on out of here.

That's why I said I'm a Ram fan. Hey, let me get the fuck on out of here. I'm a Ram fan. This has been Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Well, well. We will see y'all on Monday. Smoke. Damn, the Ram.