Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena FIRES BACK At De'Aaron Fox & Kings Fans

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Gil's Arena FIRES BACK At De'Aaron Fox & Sacramento Kings Fans as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew enter the arena with a vengeance and react to Sac's clap back to Gil disrespecting their city when he was baffled that DeMar DeRozan picked the Kings over his hometown Los Angeles Lakers. They respond in true Gil's Arena fashion before moving on to recap Klay Thompson's introductory press conference with the Dallas Mavericks and debate if Klay will be able to spark a career resurgence alongside Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving before breaking down Cooper Flagg's impressive showing at Team USA training camp as he strives to be the next great American Hooper. Finally, they react to Kevin Durant shutting down trade rumors surrounding a potential departure from the Phoenix Suns and break down Bronny James' lackluster NBA Summer League Debut & what's next for LeBron James & The Lakers. Please give us a Like & Subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Kenyon Martin & Brandon Jennings Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Enter The Aura Watch Giveaway For A Chance To Travel to NBA Summer League & Meet The Gil's Arena Crew!! - https://forms.gle/9ZmMwsycBsbLXdLn6 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:09 Gil's 2k Blowout 0:03:45 Gil Claps Back At Sacramento 0:10:38 Klay Thompson Introduced With The Mavericks 0:23:01 Cooper Flagg Dominates Team USA Training Camp 0:59:33 Bronny James' Summer League Debut 1:15:53 Will The Lakers Win A Title With LeBron? 1:46:31 Gil's Arena's Ranks 2024 Eastern Conference Teams 1:49:26 MostlyFans 2:11:53 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Uh-oh. The whole city is looking for you, Gil. For real. I got a whole bunch of DMs, man. Just a whole bunch of just, I'm just a bunch of ugly niggas in there. I'm like, man, what's going on? And then I had to think, this many ugly people, gotta be one city. I swear to God. So I'm like, yeah, they clown, clown, clown.

I'm just looking at the avatar. I'm like, ugly, ugly, ugly. The fine people of our state's capital have responded. I realize something must have went viral, man. We will address it shortly. I didn't even know they had internet out there like that. Your internet is available for a while. Oh, it is? Oh.

Oh, my news. All right. Well, let's get into it. This is Gil Zer Yeah, all right. Oh, it was my news. All right. Well, let's get into it. This is Gil Zerita, presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up, what up? We've got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back on the couch representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University.

Malcolm X. Okay. By any means necessary. Yeah, you're going to need that today. By any means. You've got to get there by any means. And we've got Kenya Martin back here with us. Okay. So Gil, yesterday you and Rashad played game three of your all time player series. You smacked him, if I'm not mistaken.

Smack daddy. A 25 point blowout. It wasn't, it wasn't. You thought she was 302? Huh? Not 21, I gave him one. You gave him one. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. You thought she was 3-0-2? Huh? Nah, 2-1. I gave him one. Yeah, I gave him one. I put in a bunch of guards

and I let Curry get off. But, uh... Yeah, his problem is, the bad part is his best player is Curry, but then that's Achilles' heel if I go LeBron and KD at the point, because the computer just goes straight to the post and he got double, then Dirk hits all these shots.

Yeah, he's stuck. But you figured out the flaw. We also have another series. Canyon currently. Oh, you said another series? There's another series going on. There's two series. That's what we call 3-0?

A series? It is a series. I didn't know that was called a series. 3-0. Brandon Luggett trying to make a major comeback against Canyon Squad. They will be playing that game today, 2.30 p.m. Pacific, after our program. Brandon, you still have faith in your squad? I'm going to just put random everywhere.

Just random people everywhere. That's basically what you've been doing. We'll see. So you've been listening to your homeboys and all that shit. They've been fucking your shit up, dog. I've been listening to people in the chat. See, that's the problem. It's Gil's, it's no-chill chat.

Who know more about basketball, you or them? Me. I know, I just get caught up. They call me Tory Lane Jennings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You be stuck in the chat. There's A.B. Omer. A.B. David Killick.

Chat does love to insult our illustrious crew, myself included. We appreciate you guys for that, keeping us on our toes. Also, I have another announcement. We have 700,000 subscribers on the Gil's Arena YouTube channel. We crossed 700,000. We did it!

Cut the check, underdog. You will be hearing from Gil and I's representatives in the near future. We will be pow-wowing at Vegas' Summer League. And quickly before we go, I just want to send some love to my little sister Shiloh, her Air West squad. They're playing in the championship today of the Junior Sparks Tournament at Crypto Arena. So, Shiloh and the rest of that crew, shout out Chris Young. Hit me, let me know.

Go get the dub today. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Despite a lackluster offseason so far, LeBron still thinks the Lakers can win one more title before he retires. But what do the Lakers need to add to the roster to make that a reality? KD clapped back at the trade rumors. But what's the sun sealing if their big three can stay healthy this season? And the Mavs introduced Klay Thompson in the rest of their offseason additions,

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with his shirt off at 3.03. I told you. Catch him at the pool. Drunk. So, Gil, on our show yesterday, you voiced your displeasure with DeMar DeRozan picking the Kings over the Lakers. I know it hurts. I get it.

I see it every time we bring it up. That and any time Team USA comes up, same reaction. But you also took aim at the city of Sacramento as a whole. I need to call DeMar, man. Like, don't you like big cities, bro? You keep going to these weak-ass cities, man. San Antonio, man. Chicago, cold.

Are you going down to Hicksville? What are the cows in stank, ugly city like they ranked? No, I mean, the city is trash. Our state capital. They rank number one and people just being ugly over there. No, that's a fact. That's not a city you want to be in. That's a good word.

No, it ain't. Sacramento, man, bingo players out there. Played in Sacramento. Played bingo. Played in Sacramento. Bingo players in Sacramento. Nice, older work. They rank number one.

He's 38 and older. They got top 38. Sacramento is trash. They rank number one in ugliest people in America. I don't know how that worked, but they ranked them. Must be the dudes because the workers. This is crazy. You didn't want to come home to L.A.

Nah, hell nah. So don't mind that graphic. That was actually yesterday. It was not 2023. Oh, we are not visionary. But I'm sure you felt the same way July of 2023 as you do. I mean, I felt it's what they got ranked. It's an article.

It ranked it. Go by city. You know how they put ranks up? Richest city in America. Right? You know? Poorest city in America. Boom.

Ugliest. Damn. How do they even do that, though? I don't know. They just walk around like, oh, ugly. Walk around and just sit on the park bench and don't know. They just walk around like, oh, ugly. Walk around and just sit on the park bench and just tally. They probably go through DMV licenses.

One, one. You say DMV licenses? I don't know. How do you measure that? I just read it. I just, oh, shit, okay, okay. But who came up with that, like, Sacramento's the ugliest place? Like, how do you know that? Did you go to every city and survey the people?

Let me stop. So naturally, the good people of Sactown took offense to those comments. Damn, I don't want to say the other city because I was kind of close to that city. Don't do it again. You got D.C., then there's another one that's number two. Don't do it. We don't need beef with any more cities. there's another one that's number two. Don't do it, we don't need beef with any more cities. It's not, it's an article.

In the United, but okay, but nonetheless, the good people of SAC town took offense to those comments and even De'Aaron Fox offered some thoughts to you saying De'Mar needs to come play in a big city. So De'Aaron tweeted the following, said Chicago's the third most populated city in the country and San Antonio is top ten by the way cry emoji cry emoji shout out to dear Fox top 10 most populated yeah I don't know you say people you said DeMar needs to come play in a big city like market a big market play with the big market has nothing to do with how many people go in a city dear Fox sticking up for I don't

know I don't know I'm understands. I don't know. I'm pretty sure he doesn't understand, like, markets, NBA markets. There's, like, for shoe contracts, for marketing deals. There's certain cities that hold thrusts. Okay. And Sacramento is, there's 30 cities? Oh, no, not even 30 cities. Sac is at the bottom five,

and San Antonio is in the middle of the bottom. So they're at around, San Antonio's around 20, and they're around... We were also supposed to get... You know, I mean, it kind of hints. I mean, if he, you know, if he really understands what I'm saying is... Who had a better year, him or Curry? Asher.

He did. He did, right? What team was better, him or Curry? By a slim margin, his team was. His team, huh? Who made 13? Steph and Curry. Just look nasty with two Sacramento players on that, huh?

Let's go ahead and throw in the San Francisco. The market dictates, man. Well, I mean, you can't. Just look nasty with two Sacramento players on that huh? It's gonna hit though in the San Francisco and The market dictates man. Well, I mean you can't I mean, let's be honest. I mean he's signed to Steph So how big you can't like, you know, I'm saying like you're not gonna be bigger than Steph until Steph gets out the league No, I'm just saying like it's just this market man. Like there's certain deals if you're in bigger markets you get those deals That's just a fact. If you look at the top, if we say who's the top ten greatest players of all time, there's only one person that's going to be on everybody's list that's not in the big market. That would be Tim Duncan.

If everybody says they're top ten list, only Tim Duncan would be on the list that's not in the big market. Everybody else, Boston, Chicago, Lakers, Philadelphia, I mean, it's just big markets. I'm sorry. If you look at the top, if you look at the top 50, before the top 75, you go back at the top 50. Out of 50, damn near 40, 38

was in big markets. So we were also supposed to get packed up today on a radio show waiting for those clips to hit the Internet. Where'd they go? You can't pack up truth. That's the problem. I can't.

What are they going to say? You know we are a big market. Oh, okay. No, they're just going to start probably talking about other stuff. Oh, yeah, he brought guns to the locker room. I get it. Ring list. That was a consistent response.

It has nothing to do with this. It has nothing to do with what reality is. You never want a ring. Reality is. I already know what's coming. Yeah. Reality is. How many rings have the Kings on it?

They're the Kings with no rings. I'm a man of the people. Somebody else said something about y'all. Listen, bro, it was a funny shit. I don't know. Can you please share? No, they called y'all a British cigarette. A U.K. cigarette?

Uh-huh. Oh, listen, dog. You got to look it up. Look up what it means. A U.K. cigarette? Yes. Boy, it was, listen. Oh, I laughed so hard.

Oh, I laughed hard. Oh, wow laughed hard. Oh wow. Do not repeat it, Gil. Do not repeat it. We would like to keep this show on the air. That's unfortunate. Anything you wanna say to the fine people of Sacramento on this show, Gil?

You ain't got it yet? Atone for your sin. No, what you looking at? Well, I'm not even gonna show you. Show me. I'm not gonna show you. Oh! What? You did. Yes.

You can Google it. No, you can't. We will not say what it means on this show, but you all have the access to Google it. Hey, I'm broke. Zest. Oh, yeah. Anything you want to say to the fine people of Sacramento?

It's an up-and-coming city. Very diverse. Tons of landed opportunities. Should I lie or say the truth? Hey, the truth sounds... We said it before. I said the truth sounds like hate. That's all. Okay, so I'll lie.

De'Aaron Fox will... They will treat him right. He would make the all-NBA team so he can get the Supermax. So they have to pay him $320 plus what they paid DeMar, plus what that, and the team franchise is going to be in great health. Thank you.

And you're going to move on, and you're going to win so many games. Thank you. Or, they're going to find out how to screw you. You're going to sign a regular Max. Then they can go sign somebody else just like Philly did. Same shit I said about Philly. They're going to screw Maxie out of the Supermax. He's going to sign a regular

Max. Look what they got. Paul George. If he signed a Supermax, no Paul George. There are certain cities that just can't afford you can't, they can't afford super, super Max players. They just can't afford, they can't afford super, super max players. They just can't. Sacramento can't do that.

Detroit can't do that. Them, Memphis can't do that, right? They can't afford having two, three players on a team that's super max. Their city just doesn't do that. Indiana, right? So someone has to be screwed for them to compete. That's all it is. I know they don't want to hear that, but that's what it is.

At least you know it. Or you're going to have to go somewhere else. You're going to have to leave, brother. You think Memphis is sitting there shaking? They twerking. They sitting there twerking because John Moran ain't super max. Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

Man, they twerking in honey. That man ain't super max. Twerking in honey. Twerking in honey. They twerking in honey over there cuz now they got a, bro, you got max. They got max max right now. They got two max players. Then they can sign a super max because John Moran ain't the

Super Max. So they can sign a Super Max player to add with that team. Hence how Golden State got KD because who wasn't on Max Money? Steph Curry wasn't on Max. They need to move that team, bro. Who? Tennessee?

Nashville. They need to move that to Nashville, bro. They need to move that to Nashville, bro. So, yeah. Like, they can, yeah, they need to move that team to Nashville. Like, when... They got everything else. Like, why is that basketball team in Memphis? When...

They ain't got no... They got football in Nashville. They got hockey in Nashville. Like, when the businessman, like, was thinking of cities to put teams in, what was the idea at the time? Well, leave from Vancouver? I have to be cheaper. Well, leave from Vancouver?

Yeah, just, yeah, Vancouver. Leave from Vancouver and they just Memphis. Yeah. Like, oh. Like, hmm. Middle America. Did we ever find out what cities? You remember when they had the All-Star this weekend or this year?

Yeah. What cities won't get the All-Star because they're too small? Oh, yeah. After the Indianapolis All-Star weekend, the league would change it to, they need to have X amount of hotel rooms, five-star accommodations. So, Sacramento won't get that, right? A lot of cities will not be in the mix any further. Milwaukee won't get it.

Sacramento won't get it. Indiana won't get that mug. San Antonio probably won't be able to get it. But you know who is getting it? The Bay Area. Detroit won't get it. Sacramento won't get it. Indiana won't get that mug. San Antonio probably won't be able to get it. But you know who is getting it? The Bay Area. Detroit won't get it. And Los Angeles. So God bless America.

Keep it in Cal. So it's the bottom team. So a lot of cities are exempt from the criteria of being able to host. You've got Orlando will. They can. Oh, yeah, they can. Yeah, yeah. Orlando's big as hell. Yeah. Orlando can host anything. Yeah. Miami can. Yeah, so Miami. But it's just them cities. Houston. Dallas, Houston. Chicago. So let's add Sacramento to the list of cities.

You got Philly. Yeah. Phoenix. Phoenix can. As I said, it's just some bottom teams. It's just some bottom feeding teams. I'll tell you, we won't be doing a live show in Sacramento anytime soon. We don't need to. It ain't nothing. I mean, that ain't the market we're trying to push Gilrish. You know the bad part is I think the fans are, the fans themselves, this is not a fan problem. It's at Tampa. are... The fans themselves... This is not a fan problem.

It's at Tampa. It's not a... You know what I mean? It's not a fan problem. It's not... We're not saying the fans, because they have great fans. Unfortunately, their fan base and their organization

are on two different wavelengths. Because as... You're talking about a championship fan base, right? They're going to support. The dollar was there when it was paying dollar beers, right, where you see this whole crowd is crazy as hell, right? They used to damn near try to boo us out of the building, but the team is handicapped by just the market itself, so they can't put a team together that could actually possibly win it. They They can't I like this why I think they will perform well. This is it

That perform it like well, no one like Western Conference Finals. No, I mean I didn't we were discussing Huh tomorrow going there was a shot It was shocking needed that he picked the cut Good squad Mike Mike Brown, Rhea. No, I get it, I get it. I don't know, he definitely got his money. I get it, it's just... Who got my money?

He got his bread. He also said he didn't have any communication with the Lakers, which was a little weird, but... That's what I'm saying, man. I don't know what's going on with them, man. They'd be throwing out all this money. I don't know. Have we talked to anybody who talked to them personally?

No. Who they talking to? All right, well, let's keep it in the Western Conference. Mavs introduced Klay Thompson and the rest of their offseason additions today. And Klay spoke on his decision to leave the Warriors after 13 seasons and winning four championships in addition to the expectations for the rest of his career. Whatever industry sometimes changes can spur greatness,

and a new change of scenery can do wonders. I'm very grateful for my time at Golden State, but I just felt like moving on could just re-energize me and do something special for the rest of my career. And Dallas was so attractive because of the young players they have, the style of play, the, you know, world-class treatment these players get from this organization and just a beautiful city who loves their hoops. So when I was watching the playoffs and I'm watching the Mavs, you know,

make a run for the championship, I just saw myself fitting in really well with this team and the personnel. And they look like they have fun playing with each other and they play for each other. And that was very attractive for me. And that's really all I needed to see. And there was mutual interest there and that's why I'm here. At this point my career I mean still can't leave me open and I can guard and I'm just excited I still think I can do what I've been able to do and it's just about being in the

best shape I could possibly be but I know I can help this team, whether it's the knowledge I've gained or big scoring nights. I just still know I can be a very, very good player in this league. So this past season with the Warriors, Clay averaged 18 points, three rebounds, two assists, 77 games, with shooting splits of 43-39-93, but was moved to the bench at points in the season for the first time. He's becoming a full-time starter in 2012. Now he gets to get some new life with the Mavs. He'll be wearing number 31, which I thought was interesting. Did he say why?

Four rings. Three plus one is... When I see that, I was like, oh, three plus one. Three plus one is the Warriors also, as you remember, did blow a 3-1 lead to the Cavs in 2016. Just pointing it out. Just pointing it out. Reggie Miller also wore number 31. So did UCLA great Ed O'Bain.

Who do you think is better than 31? 13 years reverse. I don't know. Or is it 30 plus one? He wanted to in Dallas. There's no number four? Who has four? 13 years reverse? I don't know. Or is it a 30 plus one? You want it to endow, that's shit. There's no number four? Who has four?

That's what I wanted to look up, like if somebody had four because you can't get, what, you can't get 11. Kyrie got that. Kyrie not coming off of that.

Hold on, let me pull it up. Mm-hmm. 31. Right. Mm. I don't know. I do not see, yeah. I mean, 31. Right. Hmm. I don't know. I do not see.

Yeah. I mean, he might have given this shout out because I was drafted number 31, so he might have given it. A special message for you.

All right. But looking at Clay and what he'll bring to this Mav squad, will Clay resurge his career with the Mavs? Kane, we'll start with you. Dallas native.

Yeah, like you said, you still can't leave him open. You know, for what this, that's the last thing to go. Right? Yup. Thanks. That's the last, that's the last thing to go. Being able to shoot and still can't leave him open. You got two guys that's,

draws a lot of attention with the ball in their hands. So you, hey, yeah, I think he's good pick for him, man He felt a certain thing in his soul about himself. He wanted a new change. They said it would energize him So you got to go with the guy man. You got to go with his career is his feeling is his his legacy So shout out to him man for making a huge decision for himself putting himself first and not the team not organization I'm not what they built. So shout out to him for making a huge decision for himself, putting himself first and not the team, not organization, not what they built. So shout out to him for taking a chance on himself. And I think he gonna play well. He didn't play bad last year. Trust me, he can go down here. The crazy shit,

just hear me out. He can go to Dallas, right? And have the exact same fucking numbers. And ain't nobody gonna have shit to say. Not a fucking thing. Because he was fucking 18. On this team, that's the third least... So this is the crazy shit. He washed, he this, he that.

He can go down there and have the exact same numbers. And be a hero. And shoot the same percentages and everything. And they make it to the fucking Western Conference, second round of the Western Conference, and nobody got shit to say. It'd be a great pickup. Great addition, right?

Great addition, yep. Fucking people need reporters in sports, man. Yeah. Like, go to say you're going to be kicking yourself, though. Like, you're going to be kicking yourself. And also, I mean,

down year for Klay last year just comparing to what he's done in his career. Because it's one percentage point, right? 39, just say if it said 40. It's 39% from three. That's not, like, just imagine if it was 40%. It's not that.

Right. 43, 39, 93 shooting splits. It's not, like, just imagine if it was 40%. It's not that. Right. 43, 39, 93 shooting flips is just one more percent. We still losing and whatever. During the games he was benched that you fucking was playing with his minutes. How about y'all take that

into a fucking account? Yeah, yeah. You're fucking playing with this man's emotions and his fucking, his psychic. You know what I'm saying? So how about you take that

into fucking consideration why he shot 39% from three? If Clay would have came back, he would have been coming off the bench with a Pajemski starting, so I'm sure that didn't necessarily rub him the right way. Shot a Brandon Pajemski. Because, who?

Brandon Pajemski. Because he going to average 18? I'm not familiar with the thinking of Steve Kerr and the mindset of the Warriors franchise. He ain't no other part. And if he averages what Clay averaged last year with the same shooting splits, they're going to offer him a max.

If he averaged 18 on 39 and 40 something, max. And 93 from the free throw. Max. Come on, man. He's going to be sitting there like, yeah. Ooh, Clay, thank you. Fucking thank you for leaving. This man got booed with this. He's getting che like, yeah. Ooh, Clay, thank you. Fucking thank you for leaving. This man got booed with this.

He's getting cheered. Parade. We found a new Clay. Bray, when you look at Clay and the decision to join the Mavs, do you think he'll be able to resurge his career? Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, well, he's at the telling of his career. So, I mean, what other place could you think about going to

where you can have fun, for one? You know, the owner's cool. Dallas just went to the finals, so, you know, they're up there. You know, they're going to be right back again. So, it's a great city. So, I mean, to end your career, and, you know, I know you've been in Golden State for a long time, but you're still back in the hunt again.

So, to him, you know, like you said, the 18 he's averaging, if he can do that over there, they're good. But he's playing with a franchise and an owner that actually cares. So he's about to have fun these next couple years, regardless. And I think that's what he needs mentally for him to be able to play. He's about to have fun. Yeah, I mean, he looked happier.

He did? Yeah, he did. Did you see his last couple interviews? Uh-uh, uh-uh. I think it's that little mixed emotion. Yeah, he still ain No, no. Did you see his last couple interviews? Uh-uh, uh-uh. I think it's that little mixed emotions. Yeah, he's still, they ain't hit him yet. I'm about to say, yeah, he's like,

But no, you could hear it in him, the excitement of what he expects himself to be, right? Yeah. Which, you gotta, if you're a competitor and you've went through any adversity or somebody has an organization that shit on you and you have something to prove,

the man's a champion, man. He's been relied on in the biggest moments on the biggest stage. Um... So, yeah, yeah, it's that chip. It's that... It's that fuck you gene, it's that it's that man like and i'm pretty sure he hey he is gonna display that thing and if i know it don't let

him go back to get he get that thing going go to state because jk gonna put the side on they gonna ride the hell out of them for four quarters and hey you know jk he's right here with you man that's what's going on is when, man. When he needed them, when he needed, when you needed Clay, he actually showed up. Like, he was 0-10 the last, y'all didn't need him then.

That wasn't no, that wasn't no game that, like, no, when you needed big shots for him in certain games, he delivered. All the time. All the time.

And I remember remember by himself he destroyed Portland's the four games that they had them big leads. If you go back, Clay. It was Clay who he looking at that scoreboard

and he was like, I'll fight that scoreboard. Let's just go out here and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I was talking to Dane about it. When y'all get up 18, just double Klay. Because he's the only one that has no conscience that's just going to shoot the shot without the scoreboard.

He's not going to think about, oh, we're about to be down 25. He's just going to keep chucking. So he's the most dangerous person on the court when they're down. You don't want balls to the wall. You don't want that with Klay. No, because he shoots the shit out of it, man. What's that dude named who's going to be replacing him? Pajinsky.

Pajinsky's going to get his ass handed to him when he's got to play against Klay. You think? Oh, my God. Marky Collin. What? Is you serious? Is you serious? Is you serious? And J.K. is there.

And Kyrie is there. You know, Kyrie got that get back at the other team type shit. So, oh, they're going to be feeding them. They're going to be all kind of drop twos, run around twos. He's going to take about 25 shots. I can see a 30, 40 point game. They're going to put their little ass in the post. They're going to do all kind of shit.

Oh, they're going to, oh. What? Oh, yeah. It's going to be that get back game. They're going to put their little ass in the post. They're going to do all kinds of shit to you. Oh, they're going to, oh. What? Oh, yeah. There's going to be that get back game. There's going to be ice on him. Hey, whoever you want. Everybody has that get back game. Huh?

Everybody has that get back game. But that's what I'm saying. Kyrie's been there before, so he knows what it feels like. Yeah, you need that get back. Go ahead. We're going to run this off. Kyrie probably would take 10 shots that game. Luka might sit the fuck out.

Hey, go ahead. Go on, Klay, get a motherfucker 65 in seven minutes. That's how you be playing. And how do y'all feel like Klay is going to work with that Mavs offense? I got to imagine if I'm Luka or Kyrie and I got a guy like Klay now coming and he's in that corner now. You got one dude that averaged nine, ten assists. Luka's going to average. What's the funniest? Luka's going to probably get a triple-double this year. And that's if I'm Luka, like, oh, now I've got the accredited. Because he replaces Derrick Jones Jr., and people was leaving him open. Yep, yeah.

Well, guess what? You ain't going to do that. Hey, you can't leave that light-skinned boy open. I'm going to tell you that right now. Not consistently. You might miss the first, but guess what? Man. Because every time you shoot it,

you think the bitch going in. Right? Ain't too many people, like, even with Steph at times, you're like, that's a bad shot, Steph. Like, you don't think it's going in. With Clay, you like, every time he shoot that motherfucker, I'm thinking that bitch going in, man. Because he always square, his feet always,

it don't never change. He don't never change the line. He always in line, man. I think that bitch going in every time he shoot it. So, damn. It's going to be exciting for Dallas, man. That's what I'm saying. That's what's crazy is Luka is going to average a triple-double. Yeah.

Then you got the mother boys. Because now he also just, all he has to do is just focus. You're under their belt. He just focuses on the rebounder now. P.J. came in halfway. He going to be better with them. Yeah, P.J. going to shoot the three-runner. The young boy, Hardy. He's going to rebounding now. P.J. came in halfway. He going to be better with them. The young boy Hardy. He's going to be all right.

And any concern on the defensive side of the ball? Obviously, Mavs is one of the best teams in the league after the trade deadline. Now you can put Klay and hide Luka. Listen, if you're really... Still got two liabilities, though. It's one of those things, man. Because you're so small at the 1,abilities, though. It's one of those things, man, you're going to have,

because you're so small at the one, two, three, I mean, you're not technically small at Luka there, but. But you are technically. Yeah, but technically you are. You are. You have to go lively and gaffer at the four, five. To circumvent that? Yeah.

You're going to have to play him four or five minutes, then bring in P.J. Washington. Right? It's just one of those, it's one of those things you're going to have, because it's too much pressure on just one big back there.

Yeah. Because when that rotation comes, the person who's blocking the shot is going to be Kyrie, Klay, or Luka. That's not, you know, that's...

You better know I hear him, motherfucker. So you need both of them so they're playing off of each other. You better go look for JaVale McGee. Yeah. Go bring him back. As a backup, yeah. Just a safety.

Yeah. A safety B? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because you're going to bring PJ in off the bench, or what I'm saying, that situation. He's going to come in at the forward, then you're going to be rotating Gafford

and them consistently, and then PJ so is That's not a bad pickup who you just say Well, he's played in where you got like two three rings Just this certain live body. Oh god. I mean three rings. Yeah He's just a lot of money gonna play gonna live body man. Yeah, I'm Ain't gonna do nothing but rebound and run the floor. It's Andre Drummond, right?

That's all he do. Like a live body. Yeah. Yeah. It's just going to be weird. Bring in Clay and get rid of. Derek, which was a power forward. So, you know, the fact that they will probably, if they just start their best players,

you're talking about Luka, Kyrie, Klay, and PJ playing a four? But you can get away with it as NBA. I mean, he did that this season, though. Yeah, you can get away with it. It doesn't hurt you. There was more of a three, I thought. Like, not in this NBA.

I think Derrick Jones, he was more of a three. Yeah. But defensively, he can guard multiple positions. I get you. But I think P.J., in this NBA, he fine at the four. And then Gaffer. Because who going to post him up? See, I'm thinking about the top-tier teams.

Because the top-tier teams got big guys. Okay, they got a fire still, so who going to post him up? Who going to put P.J. Washington in the post throughout the NBA that's playing that position? On the West? In the NBA. Period. Who the fuck posts? Giannis don't post. So he can guard. So he's fine at the four.

P.J. is fine if they want to start him at the four. I think him coming in and having a training camp with them would be better for him, right? Coming in halfway last year. Still played well. They're great. I thought that squad played great. Yeah, they played well, but just imagine all of them getting the training camp together.

Clay involved now, PJ there. No, I'm just, I think about when, like, because, like, let's say, you know, Joker sits at the three-point line making passes, and when you got, like, Aaron Gordon ducking in and going for a lob, he ain't blocking, he can't block. He don't have athletic, he's not athletic at. That's fine. Who, PJ?

Yeah. He can guard Aaron Gordon, though. PJ Washington? Yeah. He's not athletic at... That's fine. Who, PJ? Yeah. He can guard Aaron Gordon, though. PJ Washington? Yeah. He is athletic. He's not as athletic as Aaron Gordon, but... Well, he can still hold his ground. ...as athletic to be forward.

But who else? Because he's the one who has to protect the rim. But there's so few guys that fit what you're saying. No, what I'm saying... At that position. When the big is out, he is the rim protector. So that's even when anybody drives, he's the one back there that got to actually protect the rim.

And it's not like he's taking charges. So when you jump the jump with him, he's not a guy that deters anybody. But my thing is, how many teams have that? That drives? No. They have rim protection, as many teams have that? That drives? No. They have rim protection, as you were speaking of, at that position. Yeah, like when they big. When they big is away from bat.

Who else has rim protection besides team Minnesota players too big? That's it. I'm saying, but who else? Nobody else. Aaron Gordon is 6'10". Okay, cool. Him and P.J. washes out, I think. Yeah, 6'10". Michael Porter Jr. is 6'10". But, cool. Him and P.J. washes out, I think. 6'10"?

Michael Porter Jr. is 6'10". But he's 3, though. But he's not attacking the rim. But that's what I'm saying. Those are... I'm not worried about Michael Porter Jr. He's not attacking the rim. I'm thinking about championship.

The championship teams are big as hell. They're not little. They're not sitting there with 6'1", 6'2", 6... They're not... So he's that tall? So P.J.'s that tall? I don't know. 6'8"? Like 6'7", 6'8"? He's like 6'8", 6'2", 6'. They're not... So he's that tall? So P.J.'s that tall? I don't know how...

P.J.'s like 6'7", 6'8". He's like 6'8", 6'9". That's not... But in this NBA, you're not talking about... No, what I'm saying, NBA regular... We're not talking about

the power fours I played. I'm talking about NBA regular. You're thinking about the power fours we played against. No, I'm talking about the NBA that's been winning championships. But it's a different...

So... So who did the four for Boston? Al Horford. But what is he doing? But what is Al Horford doing? Your team is big all across the board. But what is Al Horford doing? A center.

No, but he's a spot-up shooter now. But I'm just talking about just height. Okay, but the height doesn't matter in this situation, Gil. Because pretty much if you're a face-up shooter, spot-up shooter at 6'11", that's fine. You can be a spot-up shooter at 6'11". I can still contest your shot at fucking 6'8". It doesn't matter.

Who? You just said Al Horford. No, what I'm saying is... P.J. can contest Al Horford's shots. No, I'm not talking about... But you said height. I'm talking about when I go to the basket, he's not blocking. Al Horford not attacking the basket. Not him, just the basket.

But why did you bring him up then? When Tatum went, just like this, when Brown went to the layup, who was there trying to block the shots? Him. Okay, that's fine. He can't do nothing with them. Okay, that's one. That's what I'm saying is everybody, when John Morant comes in there, there's nobody backing him. But my question is to you, which you haven't answered yet,

what teams fit what you're asking for? Every championship team in the last 10 years has been big. Who's a rim protector? They're big. Who is a rim protector? Just because they're big doesn't mean they're rim protectors, Gilbert. If Giannis is out, you got two 6'10 guys back there that can get rebounds in what's-her-name. They're not rim protectors.

Denver? I'm using your words, Gilbert. I'm not making words up. These are your words that you use. He's going to be a great asset like he was in this championship. Being back there trying to stop somebody from scoring a layup. These are your words. You said rim protector and hype.

I'm not using your words. Who won the last championship? How big was the team who won the last championship? I'm asking you. You said rim protector. The year before that. Denver Nuggets. He said rim protector. So who you. You said rim protector. The year before that. Denver Nuggets. The year before that.

He said rim protector. So who is the rim protector on Denver? The year before that. If Jokic is away from the basket, who's the rim protector? Who's the rim protector? Gordon. He's not a rim protector. He wasn't blocking shots?

He's not a rim protector. Nigga. He wasn't blocking shots. Who's averaging one and a half? Jesus Christ. He's not a rim protector. Just because you can block a shot or two, that don't mean you're a rim protector, Gil.

So what does that mean, then? Derek White blocks shots. Is he a fucking rim protector? He doesn't block shots. Dwayne Wade was the leading block at his position. Is he a fucking rim protector? No. Just because you block shots Dwyane Wade was the leading block at his position. Is he a fucking rim protector? No Just cuz you block shots don't mean your rim protector

So what does a rim protector then if you're not blocking shots a rim protector is a When you look fucking Wendy is the fucking rim protector. Okay, okay. Yes Bam out of Bayou Anthony Davis Giannis Rim protectors LeBron a room protect no, but is he big I'm not a fear LeBron if I'm driving to the basket I'm not looking for him. No, no And nobody fear LeBron a driving to the basket if you ain't chasing me down from behind No, I don't know about that. Trust Trust me. Ain't nobody looking. People are looking for Anthony Davis. He covers more ground.

He had two and a half blocks a night. So like Giannis? Yeah. Rudy Gobert. Even at times Bam out of Bayou. Who else? That's all I'm saying. Those guys are rim protectors.

Hence why they can't win. For my thing, those guys are rim protectors. When Bam is on the outside, who's back there that's even close enough to block a shot? Nobody. The point that I'm making, Gil, you're making my point for me. How? Because I'm asking who else. If Bam is out here, who's big enough to even block a shot?

That's what I'm saying. You brought up rim protectors, team that won championships. So I said, who else fits the criteria that P.J. Washington, other than, P.J. Washington is at the four, right? Yeah. So what other teams, all of the guys are the same?

It doesn't matter if you're 6'11 or not. You're not attacking the basket. If Jokic is out and someone drives, I still have two 6'10 guys. Those guys are not rim protectors. I still have two 6'10 guys. Those guys are not rim protectors, Gil. I still have two 6'10 guys that are athletic enough to play defense. Listen, no one is fearing Aaron Gordon when they drive to the basket, and they damn sure ain't fearing Michael Porter Jr.

I promise you that shit. But are they coming down dunking him? Yes, nigga. Show me. They don't fear them. Show me. Like, I want to see Aaron Gordon get dunked. They don't fear Yokes if he down there.

He the tallest one. I don't see a lot of people dunking on me. Those guys are not rim protectors. Who's... If my big is on, and we're talking about someone driving, right? We're talking about a guard driving. Yeah. Do you think Kyrie fears Aaron Gordon

blocking his shot or P.J. Washington? Neither one of them. You brought up Kyrie Irving, so neither one of them. Because they're not rim protectors.

He don't fear neither one of those guys. It ain't about fear. It's who has the better chance. I answered your question, bro. Answered the question you asked, I answered. Neither one of them. There's a reason the championship team is still tall. Because they're not rim protectors.

It don't matter. If Giannis is out, you got Lopez down there. It don't matter if he don't block shots. It's still Lopez down there. If Lopez is out, he averaged two and a half blocks. If Lopez is out there, he averaged two and a half blocks. He's a rim protector. If he's out there, you got Giannis down there.

But you got Giannis down there. They got two rim protectors. But you still got a big body. There's not a bunch of guards sitting out there trying to block me out. So who else, Gil, has two rim protectors? If one is away from the basket, who else? Lakers got bigs. Big guys.

Who? LeBron. No. No, fucking Gil. You just throw LeBron in any category you fucking want to. LeBron? I think LeBron is a rim protector. He's not a rim protector.

Listen, he's not a rim protector. I think LeBron's a rim... He's not a real... No, no, listen. He's not a real protector. I think LeBron's a real protector. Why you keep saying protector? Because you said it, nigga. What, do you want me to change the words so you can hear it? No, these are your words. These are your words.

Can you hear it? These are your words. Someone big enough to challenge a shot. How about that? These are your words. Is that better? Someone big enough to challenge a shot. You can challenge us at the rim.

I cannot challenge a shot. So it's the same shit. I cannot challenge a shot if Tatum comes in there. I'm not big enough to challenge. Same shit. I'm doing this. PJ washes it.

Same shit. Of course. It's the same shit. So who else besides that has two rims? So you still ain't answering my question. Somebody big enough. You still ain't answering my question. So that means anybody sitting over six feet back there.

So now you want to change your words. Yes, because you keep using rim protection. Because, motherfucker, you said it. I changed the words. So now you want to change your words. Yes, because you keep using rim protection. Because motherfucking you said it. I changed the words. I said big enough to challenge shots. Anybody can challenge shots, Gil, but you're still not a rim protector. So the fuck? I said

challenge shots. Fuck rim protection. Because you're stuck on rim protection. No, I'm not stuck on shit. I'm stuck on the words that you use, nigga. So a small ball team, right? So when the Lakers won it, who did they have, right? When the Lakers won? They had two rim protectors, right?

Dwight JaVale. Yeah, so my question is, other than the two teams that have two rim protectors, when the big is on the perimeter, that someone else, when they drive, they looking for the motherfucker. Just because you can jump and challenge a shot don't mean shit. It don't mean a motherfucking thing.

You can jump and challenge a shot? It doesn't mean shit at the rim when I don't fear you. Versus someone who just can't do it. When I don't fear you. It don't matter fear. It doesn't matter about fear. Someone who can do it. I don't fear you it don't matter fear It doesn't matter about fear someone who can do if I'm driving to basket. He can't do nothing What's up? But if this is the big why would I even he's no he's nothing down here. He's too. He's not big enough I'm coming full speed somebody coming full speed with a 40-inch vertical. What can he possibly do?

Nothing we send the same shit. Yeah, so they need do? Exactly. Nothing. We're saying the same shit, Gil. So they need a bigger guy back there. We're saying the fucking same thing, Gil. The fuck are you talking about? Just loudly. Yeah, we're saying the exact same thing. But you still, like I said, teams that have two rim protectors,

absolutely, man. Two bigs, two guys, two somebody when they drive. So we're saying the same thing. How do you keep saying I'm wrong? That's weird. What'd I just say? Absolutely, man. Two bigs, two guys, two somebody, when they drive, if Anthony Davis... So we're saying the same thing how you keep saying I'm wrong. That's weird. What'd I just...

What'd I just say? Gentlemen, I'm not getting in between. No, no. Please, please tell. Please interject, Josiah. Yeah, I believe you said rim protecting first.

Canyon responded to that saying that some of those guys were not rim protectors. Then you said a guy who can instill fear or just clog that paint up. And you said a guy who can instill fear or just clog that paint up. More guys fit P.J. Washington's criteria than they do having two rim protectors, is what I'm saying.

And you just said the exact same thing just now. So more teams fit what P.J. Washington brings to the table as a four, then having two bigs like the teams you said that won it. That fits his criteria. It fits the NBA's criteria, Gil. The NBA or the, I'm talking about, if they're supposed to be a team that's supposed to try to win a championship, their team is too small. Okay, Gil.

You feel like that Mav squad is too small to be a championship level. So who had Dallas in the beginning of the season? They made a trade, right? Yeah. And got P.J. Washington. Got Gafford as well. Got Gafford, right?

They played well enough to get there. They got lucky. Denver had to play Minnesota. Minnesota had to get there. They got lucky. Denver had to play Minnesota. Minnesota had to play down there. So. Anderson plays the four, right? Who? Cal Anderson.

Plays the power. Plays A4. He can play the four. He can play multiple positions. So if you're driving, right, Carl Anthony Towns is not a shot blocker, right? No, I don't think so. Who has a better chance stopping the ball from going in the basket,

Kyle Anderson or Karl-Anthony Towns? So what point are you trying to make? I'm just saying, which one? Because if one is at the four, if they're both at the four? So what point are you trying to make? If Rudy's out and one is at the four, who has a better chance stopping? four. So what point are you trying to make? If Rudy's out and one is at the four, who has a better chance stopping?

If Cal Anderson is your power forward when your big man is out, who are you stopping from coming to the rim? You have no chance. Because if you even jump, if you jump and try to block a shot, offensive rebound, you're giving it up. It's simple basketball.

You're too small. So you want to add criteria to what you're trying to point, you're trying to make. Now offensive rebounds comes into the argument. This motherfucker, you hear this shit? Y'all peep this nigga. This nigga's amazing. Now who's talking about offensive rebounds and shit? But who? Who brought it up? Now they want to change his words because I called him out on the rim protection. Now you want to start talking about offensive rebounds and shit. To make yourself right. Okay, Gilbert, you're right. I don't need to be right, man.

You're trying to be. The record is right. You're trying to be. They got their ass beat on the gore. They couldn't stop nobody from getting to the rim. Anybody who went to the rim, they couldn't do nothing. Okay. It just went lively, then was out.

They couldn't stop when they was in the game either, Gil. So what the fuck point are you trying to make? Why go smaller? That was my point. The point they're trying to make. So? If you couldn't stop them, if you couldn't stop the team when you had two type of guys. Like I said, go sign JaVale McGee.

Like I said, go sign JaVale McGee. So now you want to talk about turnovers now? You brought up offensive, now you want to talk about turnovers? Or you want to talk about what? Charges? What else? You want to talk about turnovers now? Now you brought up offensive, now you want to talk about turnovers? Or you want to talk about what? Charges? What else? You want to talk about steals now? What else do you want to make your point?

It's simple. Huh? What else do you want to talk about to make your point? If you played in a championship this year and you couldn't stop anybody from making a layup and you couldn't stop anybody from offensive rebounds, why would you go stop? That's a loose ball foul on the 64 guy. Right? If this team just beat you on offensive rebounds,

and they ran and lived at the rim when they did drive, and you go smaller, what happens? You're even smaller than you were the year before. Brandon, I think you had something oh now that's a charge now we're talking about all charges and substitutions I just want to know the difference between a rim protector and a guy who blocks shots from you

a guy that can block a shot you're not a rim protector dog I could block a shot but I didn't look at myself as a when I was in college I was a rim protector in college. Absolutely. And in the NBA.

Not necessarily. No? Like, no. Can you feel like if somebody saw you... So you wasn't a rim protector? Marcus Camby on our team was more of a rim protector. So when Marcus Camby drove and he was at the three-point line and we drove to the layup,

were you capable enough to keep us from making layups? Yes. But I'm not. I didn't look at myself as a rim potato. Or a nay-nay. It doesn't matter. Are you big enough and jump high enough to keep my motherfucking black ass? My athleticism and all that shit I got to do, I'm not a rim potato.

Y'all niggas scary. Now, if you was out, if you was out. Y'all feared me. If you was out. Y'all feared me. Whether y'all thought I was going to knock you on your ass, that's what kept y'all from coming in there. That's what kept motherfuckers from driving in that bitch.

You thought I was going to put you on your shit. So Shaq is a room protector? That's a fucking looter. Okay. Yes. No, I'm just... Yeah. Yeah.

Would you say like Karl Malone was? No. No, okay. Olajuwon, yes. Tim Duncan and David Robinson. Matumbo? Absolutely, Matumbo, yes. Okay.

Fucking yes. Theo Ratliff, yes. But when they're at the three-point line, is there anybody capable enough to defend? Theo Ratliff, when they had his team, yeah, they had a big four, yes. So Tim Duncan, David Robinson. They was the hell together. Okay. I didnles, when they had his team, yeah, they had a big four, yes. So Tim Duncan, David Robinson. After they was hell together.

Okay. I didn't plan that. No, so they was hell together. Yeah, two of them. Beat one and got the other one down there. The Mavs used to line up with Gafford and Derek Lively. Giannis. Four or five.

Lopez. Right? Mm-hmm. Rudy and Cat. When Lakers won, they had Anthony Davis, Dwight and fucking JaVale. Yeah.

But I just feel like if I know you block shots, I'm going to look at you as a rim protector, though. Like, if I'm coming in and I know you average in like a block or two, like two blocks. I never did.

Average a block. A block and some change. I never did. I averaged a block. A block and some change. Yeah, but your presence around the rim was... Yeah, it's a fear. If I'm coming in there, I'm still going to be like, oh, I got to... I'm capable, yeah. You see what I'm saying?

I'm capable, yeah. Marcus can be averaged three blocks a game. We're not talking... When he's out, you're still down there. But it's a different fear. If Naina... What is it? No, Nahara is down there? I it's it's a different fear if you if Nina if what is it? No, no, no I was down there. I'm not fucking afraid of not a rock

Jump high enough fear. I would have blocked it But you but the first your first thought and he gonna block it nigga. That ain't your first thought who Nara me Why not your first thought all shit Kenyan down there. That ain't your first thought my first block It my first thought ain't just there's nobody back to I'm gonna go lay up I still got it King is back there yes Kenyan's back there yeah I'm okay this can't be like oh shit he might block it right but just marks can be my block it yeah you look at I might block it but first your first thought is oh shit yeah but if you're out there right now how Ross back there. I understand. That's sly.

We're going to the basket. I'm with you. I understand the same, but if Naha rides on the perimeter and I'm under the basket, you're like, oh, yeah. There's a chance back there. There's a chance I might block it,

but there's another element to it. Alter it. No, no, no. Alter the shot is the third element in this. The first one, I might put you on your wallet. Yeah, that's probably one. That's one. Second is block.

Third is alter. Stop me from going in there. So, but the first thought. Huh? The first thought. You're going to put me on my wallet? But that's what I'm saying. But even though you're not a...

That's the fear. But more than this can be is you're like, oh, shit. But what I'm saying is... I got to... But if you're not a shot blocker, you're you're like, oh, shit. But what I'm saying is, but if you're not a shot blocker, you're still back there to put the fear on someone driving. But I don't look at Aaron Gordon and them other guys in the same light. I hear what you're saying, yes,

but it's not the same thing. So Rasheed Wallace and Ben Wallace? Yes. Okay. I'm just trying to think of... Yes, absolutely. So we asked the chat, who do you agree with, Canyon or Gil? 70% said Canyon.

Y'all be putting the chat. I do not do this. I have no control over polls. I get what he's saying, absolutely. I understand what Gil is saying, yes. But not every team fits that criteria. Is more P.J. Washingtons out there playing the four in the NBA than there are two teams playing Al Horford and Porzingis, Giannis and Lopez, Cat, Gobert.

Right? Mm-hmm. There's not a lot of teams. Orlando plays big because they got the personnel, too. They're not as good as them guys, but if God trusts me, if they drive him to the basket, if Aaron Gordon is down there and PJ Washington, I mean, Jalen Brown drives him to the basket, there's no thought process if he's down there.

He's still going to attack it the same as if you's down there. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you down there and Aaron Gordon down there, Jalen Brown going to attack the bats the exact same way. Who was Chicago Bulls Vince Robin? Vince Robin? What did you say that?

Rob Locker? Rupert Decker? They had Luke Longley or... Yeah, they had some bigs that would take charges, and they just big. 18 fouls. They weren't athletic. They used them. Luke Longley, Cartwright.

Will Purdue. Will Purdue. But they were all... I mean, but their guards... Seven foot. Their guards were six. All their bigs were seven foot. All their guards were 6'6".

And they had bigs. They had seven foot. All their bigs were seven foot. Bill Whittington. Bill Whittington, Will Purdue. Ugh. That's disgusting. That is a, that is a interesting... Just think about it. They didn't have nothing at the 5. So when you say like a rim, I'm still

trying, so a rim protector is somebody you fear. Somebody who you know going... Like, probably knock you on your ass. Not even that. That comes with it at times, but it's the shot blockingblocking element of it. Mm. Okay.

Like, you game-planning for Wimby. Okay. But for you drive, you better look... Okay, okay, okay, okay. You see? Okay, okay. Marcus Camby, you going there, motherfucker. You floating that bitch.

You trying to... But I'm floating that bitch, too, if you in there. Yeah, but... Because I jump. Exactly. That's what I'm saying that bitch too if you in there. Yeah, but... Because I jump. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to just go in there like, oh, shit, just because Marcus can't be, he averaged three blocks.

I'm not going to go, oh, shit, here come Kenyon too. I got to figure out a way. But your finish is going to be different if... Your rim protection is just different from other guys. I didn't look at, like, did I block shots? I might have some games where I got three blocks. I might have, might be some games where I don't get none because I'm on the ball a lot.

Mm-hmm. Like, Draymond Green is a rim protector to me. And I know he's not that, but I just, you're not just going to go in there and just. In this NBA, I have to give you that. You know. Well, let's keep this thing moving and grouping. So, 17-year-old Duke incoming freshman Cooper Flagg was the top-ranked player in the 2024 class, projected to be the top pick in the 2025 NBA draft.

For the past few days at Team USA training camp, Flagg showed flashes of what's to come. So Flagg was the only college player named to the select team and the first in a decade to have that honor. So Flagg's select squad nearly pulled off the upset in the scrimmage against Team USA on Monday, losing 74-73. AD came through with a game-saving block to preserve the victory. But Flagg made some big plays on both sides of the ball to help their efforts. Like this bucket over. Who's that, Drew?

Oh. Take that. 17-year-old kid, though, Ken, you're playing with. Oh, no, no, no, he's good. That ain't my thought process right now. Very impressive. Duke got a good one coming through. So how impressive is 17-year-old Cooper Flagg holding his own against Team USA in the best that the NBA has to offer right now?

I think it's always impressive, that age with those guys. holding his own against Team USA and the best that the NBA has to offer right now. I mean, I think it's always impressive, that age with those guys. A lot of guys in there are top 75 ever. So to be able to be on that level and being able just to showcase your talent, because you're going to be there probably next year. So just to see what it is for right now, I mean, I like it.

That's when the youngins come in, always rooting for the youngins. Because they're the future, so. But it's good, though. You know? Dookie. I don't know about that part, but yeah. Shout out Cooper Flack. K, what you think about Cooper Flack?

Holding his own against Team USA? They're fucking the same size as them guys. 6'10 out there, bitches. He can play. And he ain't just tall. He athletic, can shoot it, can handle it. I saw him play a couple summers ago in Dallas,

during the summer. He was playing against high school kids. I was like, why he playing against them? Like, that was my thought. He was just ahead and above, like better than all the rest of the kids that was out there. Yeah. Yeah, so did they barely beat, so who, boy, the USA team? What did he have?

I don't know what he finished with in that game, but. Yeah, what did he finish with? High school kid. And just for context. He gonna make the team or no? No. He made the select team. Okay.

He's on the select team. So NBA players, some overseas guys, but. Wait, he don't make the team or no? No. He made the select team. Oh, okay. He's on the select team. So NBA players, some overseas guys, but tradition for select team to take on Team USA. Select team actually smacked the dream team back in 92, which a lot of people talk about. But so it's hard to hold a lot of weight with these scrimmages. He smacked them and then got smacked the next game, right? Yeah, by a lot. Better get him back. They played a series. They came out by a lot. Better get him back. They played it serious.

They came out the first game bullshitting. Better get him back. You know, the other guys are going to take it more serious than the pros. The first game. Yeah, the select team is taking it serious. They're taking it way more. It's an opportunity to show themselves, right? Exactly.

They on display, but yeah. Didn't they have somebody on the USA team and the Redeem team? Wasn't Anthony Davis on that team? I think he was on the 2012 team. He was a rookie there, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, I thought we took a college kid one year. So, AD coming into his rookie year, I believe, in 2012. The 2012 team.

Yeah, he was a 19-year-old. Okay. Incoming rookie on that squad. Redeem team, no. Redeem team, oh, and I don't. Redeem team in 2008, wasn't it? Yeah, they didn't have a? Yeah, the 2012 team did. 2012, okay.

But he was good enough to be on that team, right? AD? Yeah. I mean... Oh, no, he was coming in, so he was college. Cop player of the year.

He said he was 19. Have we ever took somebody like that? Like a Cooper flag? Like, would he be able to make the USA team? No, because he's not in college. He's out of high school.

Was Lehner out of college? Lehner was a senior. Lehner was out of college. Yeah, senior going into his rookie year when he made the quad over Shaq, who we was a sophomore also went. Oh, wow. I was going to say I'd reject McGill. Now you've gotten a chance to see Cooper Flagg.

What do you think about him? He's a good talent, right? I mean, he's going to Duke. That's, you know. Oh, but the coach is gone, so I got to cleanse my Duke. You roll with Duke. I'm going to go with Duke. I'm going to go with Duke.

I'm going to go with Duke. I'm going to go with Duke. I'm going to go with Duke. I'm going's going to Duke. That's, you know. Oh, but the coach is gone, so I got to cleanse my Duke. You're rolling with Duke now. I got to cleanse my Duke hate. And then start accepting the new regime. My hope for summer league, you and Coach K cross paths. You guys can dap up. Bend the fences. How old is Coach K?

Huh? How old is Coach K? Coach K is 80. 80? Got to be old is Coach K? Coach K, 80. 80? Gotta be. Probably don't even remember you, Gil. He was rolling. He's 77.

77, right? He was rolling around the wind last year, heavy in the lobby. That's what funny is. Oh, we did see him. I did see him walking around. Said, where Gil at? They said, I don't know, Coach. Hey, you got to smoke with everybody.

Coach K, bro. 76-year-old Coach K. smoke with everybody. Coach K, bro. 76-year-old Coach K. They started it. You said, where that nigga Gil at? They started it. I mean, I thought basketball was basketball. I didn't know it was political.

Shit. It's political first. I didn't know that. I thought it was basketball. No, the kid going to be all right, man. He fits this NBA, man. He shoots it. He's athletic. How tall is he? Is he like 6 He fits this NBA, man. He shoots it. He's athletic.

How tall is he? Is he like 6'9", 6'10"? Oh, he's legit. Have you ever seen him play? Yeah, nah, he went up like, man, somebody called foul. He went up like somebody on the perimeter and fouled before the kid went up. This is how he's, he cleared the rim. My nigga had like all this shit was in the rim.

I was like, God damn. And likes to talk too. Yeah, you can hoop that well. You listen. Yeah. You can back it up. So he's 16, so he'll be a four in the league. With this, his age bracket, yeah.

He can talk shit because he busting ass. He's blocking shots. He's competing. Celtics and Jazz fans salivating right now at the prospects. The savior. The Savior. The Savior is coming through. But just looking at those flag highlights, how do you think his game is going to translate to the league?

Only 17 years old. I think he'll be 18 into his rookie season. 17. He turns 18 in December. You said translating to the league. He has to go to college first. But you've also said that high school is more indicative of what they'll look like in the league, right,

versus going to college. Come again? How players look in high school, how they play in high school. No, AAU mimics high school mimics college. AAU mimics the league. Well, yeah, high school-age players play in AAU. Yeah high school mimics college. AAU mimics the NBA. Well, yeah, high school-age players playing AAU. Yeah, so you should be fine. Okay.

And on that note. Yeah, and this NBA, shoot it, athletics. You got to get there. I mean, you got to get there first. He's going to be there. You know what I mean? You know how many players? Marvin Bagley killed.

He was killing the NBA players in what? What league was that? Drew League and doing all this. And yeah. Shit is different when motherfucker put the Drew League from. It just looked. The Drew League in that. No, what I'm saying is he got happy.

The NBA players, he over there kicking their asses. It looks different. Then when you go there, it looks real different. No, I'm saying it looks different with the two players you just named. Oh, see, I didn't know. It looks different. Oh, y'all was there, right? No.

Y'all was there. Not together. Y'all came right after? Yeah, not together. We came next year. He was supposed to reclass. Oh, and then he went up. Yeah.

Well, he reclassed. He was supposed to have been there, but he reclassed and left. Yeah, reclassed because he couldn't play. Yeah. But, no, he just looked different. Cooper Flagg, he was fucking competitive as shit. Yeah. Mark was skilled, talented, didn't compete.

No, that's what it was. He didn't. The skill didn't better everybody at that age. You know that's what it was. He didn't. The skill didn't better than everybody at that age. You know what I'm saying? You know how that go, man. When you better than everybody, it just comes easy. That's the problem sometimes with some of the bigger type of kids.

Because they're so big and stronger than everybody else, more athletic at that age, that they use that for the most part and they don't really develop the real ins and outs of their game, and they just keep getting by with being very athletic. And then when they hit players that's the same size as them,

they don't have the skill. So a lot of bigger guys fall to that because they're stronger than everybody early. And then those guys had to be skillful. He was strong. And then by guys had to be skillful. He was strong. And then by the time these guys get their strength, now they can match strength. You don't have the skill like they do.

The big, I don't want to hold another, kind of something, but I don't want to hold another subject. The big kid, Jada, just said he's going to Georgia to play football. Yeah. He was down at IMG when KJ was at IMG. I told him then. Go football? told him then. Go football? Told him then.

Uh-huh. Son, you're playing the wrong sport. Like, I'll... It was the worst thing at the time I could have said to him. Oh.

He acted like I told him, hey, drop down and give me 500 straight push-ups. It was the worst thing I could have said to him. Uh-huh. Oh, Jazir Jackson played with Ronnie and them coming here. Listen, I told him at IM 500 straight push-ups. It was the worst thing I could have said to him. Oh, Jazeera Jackson played with Ronnie and them coming? Yeah. Listen, I told him at IMG.

Like, God damn, son. You're playing the wrong sport. You're going to make a whole lot of money, dog. You're going to play football. Go play you some left tackle, dog. I told him this shit. KJ showed me the other day. You remember you told him? Yes. Years ago, bruh. So he got a

scholarship? Fuck yeah. Going to Georgia. Oh. Damn. Dude, Georgia. Listen, man. Athletic. Big athletic left tackle, right tackle.

Trent Williams. Okay, so we keep seeing it. We keep seeing it over and over. But somehow it's still not coming across their heads. Oh, we're bad at this. We translate. This man never, ever played football a day in his life. Ever.

Ever. Ever. Don't know what the cleek look like. Don't even know if they make cliques his size and he gets a full ride to a prestigious football school

and he's been playing football all of a week and a half and you guys still are sitting here fighting the concept that you can sit here and take the biggest, strongest basketball players and find who's never touched a sport and you can find a position for them

because your sport is strength, then skill. So he has the strength, you can give him the skill and he can be fine If you've never touched a basketball a day in your life you cannot come and play this sport Oh, I'm sorry. That's just not how it works and I'm watching him the technique he working on now It's exactly what need to be already got the defensive slide part down playing basketball in the football. Yeah from playing basketball Oh, you got listen man He already got the defensive slide part down playing basketball and the football from playing basketball. You got it. Listen, man.

If he stick with it. That is 6'11", 340. This boy can be the number one pick in the NFL draft. And that'll be crazy. I'm going to say it again. God damn. Number one pick in the NFL draft, man. Because the most important player on the field is who? Quarterback.

And left tackle or right tackle job, it depends on what hand he is. The blind side. It's your job is to protect him. Is that the same thing they wanted to put what's-her-name in too, the kids from Indiana State? Burns. DJ Burns. Oh from North Carolina State. NC State. Never played a day? Go play you some left tackle dog, some right tackle. Dude, that ain't really playing football, you ask me. Listen, I tell parents, I say, listen, if your son is a football player, put him in basketball during the offseason to get him those intangibles, right? You get different intangibles. If you're a basketball player

And that's gonna be your sport play football because you get football strength speed you learn how to hit holes you learn how to see Like you you get these fast twitch muscles That football players have yeah Right now now when it's like when you eat like if you watch like a you and youth basketball you can see what kids play football They just play the sport different. Yes, I didn't hit the holes differently cross like it Yeah, not even not even a skill one not even a skill was even aware of that skill They're good at both sports. You can tell I hate Athleticism is just very different like goddamn Brandi you hate basketball player which would dread read yeah, just they just rough like they just

Take that shit somewhere else and move this be all like the service of finesse much, bro. Oh, yeah All right. Well, let's keep it moving. Yeah, I'm with you. No, I got the big job. Did you play volleyball? They didn't put you didn't try I win Did you play volleyball? They didn't put you, they didn't try? I... when? I'm in high school, they never tried to give. You know the high school coach always, I'm not from the valley. Can't you volleyball?

You don't have volleyball? No, but I'm saying you didn't have volleyball in projects? Girls play volleyball. I'm just saying where I'm from, bro. That is fine. You have volleyball in front of you? Girls play volleyball. I'm just saying where I'm from, bruh. That is fine, kid. Dude, if I would've showed up with a volleyball in my hood, and some knee pads,

am I talking about boy? This right here. Said it. Okay, I think you would have been well respected. Said it. No, no, no. Absolutely, absolutely. I thought they were going to try to get you.

No, not even at the high school, because I graduated from a school that wasn't in my hood, where I grew up, because I had to do like a special transfer. So I wasn't. There ain't no fake addresses on it? No, no, no, no, no. It was just, no, it was a minority to majority transfer, which we could do.

It was legal. OK. To get me out of this situation where I go to school and possibly graduate. Mm-hmm. Like this is, so no volleyball existed for boys in this. Oh, OK. Well, anybody at basketball here,

you try to get them to volleyball even as his net in heaven I'm like, yeah, I'm always use that it we can help you jump in Now Baseball basketball bro and some dudes ran track and some dudes in golden gloves, but it was I'm just saying everybody playing Football we playing football baseball what I'm gonna go somewhere and be the only Can you would have been a ferocious volleyball absolutely cuz I jumped like a motherfucker, but I'll definitely been Feed dog from here to here. Oh absolutely, but not now where I'm from, but it just wouldn't be a lot of noses Oh, yeah, like a motherfucker. What?

Keep this would have been like not getting mouth. him out, bro. What? Looking for you. Yeah, just looking to target it. Oh, just waiting for the... Over the... Where you at? There you go. Like playing dodgeball. Oh, listen, dodgeball was the best.

Yeah, let's not... I don't think I'd want to play dodgeball with you. Oh, no, listen, bro, I used to skip class when I was... Man, listen, if you're playing dodgeball in the gym. I'm supposed to be in English. I'm in the gym in my coach's office. I hear they're playing dodgeball, and I come right out the office. Because, yeah, you didn't have that as basketball.

Your sixth period was basketball. Seventh period was basketball. Oh, yeah, seventh period. I have a volleyball foot, and here I come. Fourth period, I'm down there right before lunch. Y'all playing, ooh. Man, I go to the hall pass. I come up here. I'm down there right before lunch now y'all play. Oh man I got a whole pass. I'm right to hold

One one kid mom came up to the school being Went home and she was real for the whole day You learn something new every day on gills arena presented by the dog fantasy woo-woo All right, let's keep this thing moving. Bronny James made his Summer League debut on Saturday as the Lakers took on one of the Kings' Summer League squads. They have to.

Bronny played 21 minutes, finished the game with four points, two rebounds, and two assists. Went two for nine from the field, 0 for three from three. Did some good things, did some bad things. I think the important thing is you guys always say you can't look too much into summer league, good or bad. If he would have came out and dropped 40, that would have been great, but that's not necessarily going to be a reflection

of how he's going to look in the league. But did find some kind of finish. Supposed to have a game Sunday as well, too, but I believe the Lakers' record. You got to put his missed shots. So rewind that. See, I want to see his missed shots. Yeah, rewind that.

Can we play it again take shots, yeah, that's all I like that I like to see that Like here threw it up to her that he's behind you technically so you could have kept that Just go to the second clip. Yeah, but that should be an assistant a hockey assist That's a good. That's a good LeB LeBron actually watched this play, said that was tough. Stop it. Go back to when he caught the ball, please. Do we have those capabilities? There we go.

Gardo, they're putting you to the test today. Hey, Gardo. Gardo, did... Yeah, we're testing your capabilities today, player. Stop. Shot, huh? Yes. Shot, yeah. Throw it, go, go. Stop. Shot. Yes. Shot. Yeah.

Throw it. Go, go. Stop. Just catch and shoot the ball, man. I get he made the shot at the end, but he made that shot more difficult than it needed to be. Do hands down when he caught the ball, catch and shoot it. Little things like that he'll learn.

You're making shots. Mm-hmm. I'm saying the shot was good when you were on it. Go a little bit. little things like that he'll learn. Right, you making shots. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying, the shot was good when you were- Go up a little bit. Go up a little bit. Because he ain't going nowhere with the dribble and this guy not even ready to shoot either, so. Yeah, I see what you mean.

Yeah, go up a little bit. Like, you know, go, go, just go. Forward, man. No, no, forward, forward, forward. Dolphin connect. Let's slow down. Shot. Boom. Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going. Okay, that's a good, he keep going. That's a good one.

He made it. That's a good one. I'm saying the end result, yeah, but. A tougher shot than it probably needed to be, right? Like I was telling you about. It was slip and fail. I was going to say, I want to see the other shots just to see, just to. Like I look at, I just, when I'm looking at stuff like this,

I'm just looking at those guys, like are they creating their space? Are they getting to their shot? Because I don't expect these kids to be the same when they get to the... Like, I just want to see the mannerisms. Like, all right, pull up, okay. The guy's backing up, you know when to pull up, right? Just right there, you said he should have shot it.

Guy has his hands down, shoot it. Or you went, you seen this guy clogging, you pulled it back, pull. Right, it's just like the little things that you watch because the making that shot, that comes with experience. Are you taking the shots? Taking the good shots. Brandon, what did you think about Bronny's summer league debut with the Lakers?

I mean, it was fine. I mean, nobody, like we always say, nobody really plays that well in the summer league. So, I mean, we'll just see i mean but he got time um you know i'm sure he'll play in vegas and um you know just take it one game at a time he better be i mean just take your shots when you're open run the team and you know just do what you do like it's best basketball first game and a lot of pressure man as always like it's it's like it's crazy because he has, he literally has the pressure of a number one pick.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the crazy part. He literally has the, like. And not a 55th pick. We, like, people are reacting to his four points as if his spot, 55,

shouldn't have been four points. Like, you're a fucking, you, the 55th pick, motherfucker, most of them don't even get in the game. I was about to say, I was about to, wait, I was about to say. Yeah, most of them don't get in the game right here. Right, that's just, they, they might throw you in a little bit,

but no, you're just not, nah, homeboy, you in a little bit. But no, it's not no homeboy You ain't taking those shots. You got people from last year like you got people from two years Oh, yeah, two-year guy. Like when I came in I played against this group It's summer. They Lamar. Oh, I'm playing against tomorrow. Oh, it's 2001. He came in with 98 99-9 damn He came in with 98 Yeah, damn Damn that was a different time though because you had him Quinn Richardson days my Sitting there smacking here

I'm scared to shoot Right, but that's 99 your fourth overall pick But you know, it's you know, he showed that he has the tangibles for guard that make good reads. Yeah, man, low play, three-something league. What do they be wanting him to do? What does Zion have his first game? What did Wimby have his first game?

I think Wimby had like five or six. Yeah. Then he got dunked on, too, if I'm not mistaken. Number one pick, yeah. Number one pick, five points. And not to compare Bronny to Wimby. But it's just that the number one, the nigga who look like he's superhuman now,

they're five points. Yeah. So, Gil, you talked about Bronny actually getting the scrutiny of a number one overall pick on Sunday during an interview with ESPN's Dave McMenamin. LeBron was asked about the negative attention Bronny's been getting and had this to say. He said, I don't know if people really understand Bronny.

He doesn't care. I actually care a little bit. When I came in as a rookie, I wanted people to like me, and some of the things that people were saying about me kind of bothered me early on in my career. He doesn't give a fuck. He's like the complete opposite of his dad. His dad will say something to address the critics.

Bro does not care. LeBron went on to say, just imagine if you were a kid, you were born into a situation where your dad was super famous, super wealthy, and you, the kid, still had the drive to want to be able to accomplish things for yourself. I personally don't know if I would have been able to do that

if the roles were reversed. When I was coming up, I had no choice. I had to make it out for me, my mom, my family, my hometown, my city. If Bronny wants to stop right now or never play basketball, just wanted to be a gamer or wanted to be a chef, he could have done that. People don't understand how hard it is and the commitment for him to be coming out of heart surgery less than a year ago for him to be able to make the NBA the kid he's special and Gil before we move on to answer your questions Zion had 11 points four for nine in his first summer league game yeah that was the earthquake game if I'm not mistaken

and was it before the earthquake happened at the same time oh I gotta say that's great but that's what I'm saying like even even like well Later that night was when Kawhi announced the Clippers or my tree. That was a crazy stretch. Think about the Zion we've seen there, right? 11 points. He looked okay, right? And then the Zion that started the season off. Debut 22 against NBA players, right?

Winby, six, five, and then how he looked during the season. Right? It's an adjustment period. It's more nerves

than it is the game itself. It's like you're, like, these guys, it's treated like it's like the real NBA. You're seeing stars for the first time.

It's a little different. Bronny, we'll see the Gills Arena crew at his game on Friday at NBA Summer League. He missed the second game, right? Missed the second game. Low management already. That's why I love the Lakers, man. We know how to load manage.

He definitely could. I think Friday, what, they play against Boston? They play one of them games against Boston. I think Boston is, I want to say later that week. Wednesday? Yeah, 7.30. No, this game. That's prime time.

I'm just going to ask a question. The number one pick, did he have a debut? Who is the number one pick? Zachary Richachet is playing with the French national team right now. He wasn't in the World Cup. Who was it? Or Sar?

Sar was two, right? No, Sar went to Washington. So the number one pick didn't have a debut? French national team. He's French also. Going to the Olympics. Oh, he made the team?

He's on the Olympic squad. Number one pick, he better. The second pick didn't make it? He's French too. We're trying one pick, he better. The second pick didn't make it? He's French, too. But you got to remember, we're trying to win.

We don't need you young motherfuckers on the team. What, the French? That's what they get. For the most part, these kids are 18, 19. They're not the best players in their country. Oh, they're not. Huh? No.

They're not the best players in the country, so I don't, you know. But that Olympic experience I think will be good. That's what I said. They're going to probably put him on there because he's the number one pick. But the number two pick

from France didn't make it? I'm not sure. Let me see. Man, that's crazy. Well, who's the number three pick? Where's the number three? Shepard to the Rockets out of Kentucky.

How'd he do? And then to find Castle. How'd he do? I don't know if they have the Rockets. That's what I'm saying. We're not hearing nothing about none of the other picks that's Castle. How do you do? I don't know if they have the Rockets playing. That's what I'm saying. We're not hearing nothing about none of the other picks that's top. At least you'll hear something about the top.

Not everybody went to the… So there's a couple different summer leagues right now for them to go to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got you. You're right. You're right. There's like the Rocky Mountain Review. There's the California Classic.

There's a bunch of stuff going down. But to last see on the Bronny subject, what's the most important thing Bronny needs to work on to succeed in the league? But, uh, so lastly on the Bronny subject, what's the most important thing Bronny needs to work on to succeed in the league? Health. What he needs to work on? Most important thing is a work ethic. Um...

Good habits, right? It's learning good habits early, right? Um... That's just for anybody doing anything. Right. It's learning, learning good habits early. Right. Just that's just for any any anybody doing anything like, you know, learning really good habits. So you can stand on those during the ups and downs of a season, during the ups and downs of, you know, things that's, you know, out of your control, you know, you can control the good habits, you know, going to sleep at a certain time, eating, you know, minimizing partying, minimize, you know, who you have around you, right? You know, it creates success. I think just keep working. Just keep working.

I mean, you're playing with one of the greatest players that ever played a game, like your dad. So, I mean, you know, I think this rookie year is all about learning, learning experience for him, and then just picking up habits from people that he's around that's in that lab. I just think keeping him out of the G League is the most important thing. The graveyard. You said what? Grief.

Keeping them out of the G League is the most important thing. Are you just... Why? Are you disappointed that it hasn't, that it hasn't like really, really... It's not a farm system. That's what I'm saying. That's what they try to preach it as, it's not a farm system. That's what I'm saying.

Like it seems more like it hasn't turned into what you would think of the G League, like far as what money-wise. Because by the time that you just... I don't mean to cut you off. No, no, go ahead. Because three years when people say you're supposed... Just say they take you at 19, right? Uh-huh.

And they say you're not ready. So by the time you're 22, which is three years, they give you three years, right? Yeah. They're looking at the next 19-year-old, so they didn't forgot about you because they not invested. It's like you coming in as a freshman

at a certain school, by the time you a fucking junior or senior, they looking to go, it's... You know, it's like... It's sad. That's what I said. I said, if you're a young dude... You better off going overseas, man.

No, if you're a young dude and they put you in the G League, it's kind of over, in a sense. You better off going overseas, man. If you're a young dude and they put you in the G League, it's kind of over in a sense. You better off going overseas. It's hard to go down. Because it's just like anything, man. If I think you're my investment, if I really believe you are my investment,

you are my future, I am not sending you somewhere that I don't have 100% control of. Right? I want to make sure you're playing. I want to make sure you're lifting. Like, you said what they did with Giannis. Did Giannis go in the G League? No, they just had a plan for him.

You're going to sit here, motherfucker, and we're going to work with you? Like, KJ went during his rookie year. They went down to him and Kevin Porter, went down to the G League, but it was a plan. They're going down for a certain amount of games, certain amount of days, this is it, da-da-da, and they're going to come back, and that's exactly what it was. And they came back, hit the ground, and it was...

So it was just from there, just getting familiar with the... The plan. Playing in the NBA, playing, because they was young. I'm saying, well, for Kevin, they had been in a couple years, but KJ was still 19. So get his feet up on him, because they want him to play a little bit. How can we get him? Let's send him down.

Let's get him. The plays we're going to run. Let's do that. Then when he came back up, they just put him right in and he played. That's how you're supposed to do it. That's the plan. But for the most part, it's not a plan for none of these organizations and team because it's, yeah, man.

Like I said, just keep him out of the G League, man. Because people are going to be, dude, for one, his teammates are not going to pass him the ball. He's going to have to become real fucking selfish because they're going to be no-looking him. They're going to be, because he's already making more money than all of them. It's jealousy. Other teams going to be trying to just keep him out of it.

And that, but that, but that's what I'm saying. Like if this is your, your, your farm team and you put your asset down there, there's no motherfucking way that you're going to isolate my guy. And they're going to do it.

Right. He's going down there He's he's my future for He gonna get 35 shots Period this if I ever look at the goddamn stat sheet and he got 17 shots. I'm calling down and figure out what happened What happened? Yeah, but I I'm trying to... So the offense is going to go through this guy, these two guys. Pick and roll.

These two guys are getting the book. The rest of you guys are just here for them. You're not here... Look, I get it. You all want to make it here, but unfortunately right now, these two are the focal point. I need them on this training schedule,

this training schedule. It's your asset. You're supposed to be developing. I need them on this training schedule, this training schedule. It's your asset. You're supposed to be developing. They got to go through these training, boom, boom, boom, boom. Sometimes, like, I remember when we had Blatch down there. They'd be calling, like, where the fuck is he? What city is he in? How's he doing?

What's going on with him? Like, who's training in there? He might as well just come up here and he can just train with me and train with us. And that's my thing with him like who's training in there I he might as well just come up here He can just train with me and train with us and that's my thing with the Bronnie shit Just have him here man so he can be here learn work with field every day Work out with his dad get to the game early do a field God They said he's playing he's they said he's playing as you little bit right yeah He gonna but they saying he is but I but I just don't think it's...

Me, it's for games only. You ain't going to practice with them dudes. You're going to show up just like AAU. What time the game? Go play. Except 30 minutes before. Yeah, you ain't... I don't want you to have none of...

Listen, I don't want you to have none of their habits, man. Don't get to know any of these dudes. For real, you don't want that. There's bad habits down there. I don't like... Bad basketball, man. So that's what I'm saying. You're trying to create good habits sending them there and having them That's bad habits. That's like that's like the jungle you got dudes been in there. They 28 29 They don't give a they got a stone. Yeah, no, they're gonna grown as me and go and I'm trying to get I'm trying to Get to the top. I ain't got I ain't got time to worry about Brian. You already making my money

Yeah, you already make it with. You already making my money. Yeah, yeah. You already making my money. You guarantee $7 million. Fuck off. Fuck off. What? Yeah. Deadass, bro. They're just human nature. Them dudes going to be, it's just what it is, man.

Just keep them out of the situation. Or like you said, just go down and play a game. Play a game. I don't think it'll be beneficial to him. If they want him to play more basketball, then I get it. But that ain't,

put him in at the end of the game, there's going to be some blowouts. Yep. Preseason? Yeah, let him rock.

Every game. Start him in the preseason. Man, preseason ain't like it used to be. Like, preseason, like,

players who wasn't going to play, they got big minutes in preseason. Like, preseason, like, players who wasn't going to play, they got big minutes in preseason. Like, oh, shit, yeah, boy. I'm going to lead the team in scoring. They only playing three preseason games now, so shit. Oh, yeah, that's hard. Let them rock. Put them out there now.

Because usually the first game, play 10 minutes, 15 minutes. Second game, about 15, 17 minutes. You got a new coach trying to implement his system. Yep. So before we move on, both the top two picks, both Frenchmen, are not on the French national team. They will play each other on July 12th, NBA Summer League. Neither one.

Okay. Risa Shay played in some Olympic qualifying games with France back in February. But I mean, that just makes sense. Not on the senior team. I don't know. Going to the Olympics. I don't know any. But they're playing on the 12th. We may or may not be there With our or watch winter like highlights the thing that we saw and I know somebody was working him out like it's a yeah

This is tangibles. Yeah Like it listen, but they already got a leg up So if you if you're talking about a professional effect for that. Just give it to me raw, and my job is to mold it into something great. Right? You know what I mean? And that's usually what they supposed to be doing in it, but they don't do it in it. And to get... I caught on to it later. That was a good one. So no protection, Gil. You just want it raw.

That was a good one. That was a good one. I got five kids, man. I'm molded. I got five kids. I do got mine. No passing, no pulling out. Yes, but to your point, right, to what it's supposed to be, why is it only multiple leagues in Europe? Why is it only?

Oh, like the A division and B division. You got A, you got W. Why? It's going to be the same shit here, shouldn't it? All these fucking basketball players, why they got to? Because we got to go to school.

They ain't got to go. So my thing is, guys know they want to go. But even with the guys that go to school, right? Yeah. You can start the shit at 22, 21, 22 years old.

Professionals, right? Mm-hmm. Just a different league. That's all it is. Guys ain't got to be 16. But if the dude is good enough at 16... He should be able to... Yeah.

Right? Cooper Flagg right now, let's just say if Cooper Flagg wouldn't have to go to Duke, he can be in an A, right? Or double, however it goes, if double A is the top Yeah, then you go double a did a did your pro right?

So Cooper flag just say look at his skill set. I hate too good for the deal sooner So let's put him in double a yeah, right being working his way up like and then but so that's what fucking baseball does Didn't that you gotta be real special for them to put you right in a Like the G. I think it's the other way you start in a you go to double a triple a But probably want to flip it for cuz it's basketball now. Let's say the G Let's say the G League Horse what if the G League was actually that mm-hmm, right? Right? Them overgrown 16-U's. 16-U's, 17-U's. And that's what's filled.

Those guys learning NBA systems at that age. By the time they're 18, 19. Right. Boom. Right? For shits and gills. No, I'm rolling. That's what the G League should be.

I'm going to take my son because I know how he felt about school. Mm-hmm. At 16. Fuck it, 15. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Right? If I'm being honest about it, we can keep going younger, but I'm—let's say 16 when

he could probably play—at the lowest level of professional, KJ. Me knowing how he feels about school, we could have saved a whole lot of fucking private school money, right? And put him right in the motherfucking farm system. Because if you would ask KJ at that age, what you gonna do with your life? I'm playing basketball. What you gonna do with, I'm playing basketball.

So what if basketball fail? I'm gonna play basketball. But what if that basketball fail? I'm gonna play basketball. Right? So we already to play basketball. But what if that basketball fail? I'm going to play basketball. Yeah. Right? So we already know this already. It's established.

He's a hooper. Same shit with me. I just didn't know how I was going to get there. I went to school. I did schoolwork in order to fucking play basketball. It's called a spade a spade. I didn't have nobody forcing me to fucking do schoolwork. My life was in turmoil at the time.

Right? I fucking did this so I can hoop. Same shit with a lot of people. Because you making them fucking go to school at 16, 17. No, let's stop this shit. Let's let them go be professionals. Because that's what they want to do with their life. I wish I had it.

Right? I hated school. So therefore, when you had the opportunity, what did you do? I went right to your you went right to your that's okay Yeah, with I listen man. We take a jet with IMG. He ain't gotta take no class. He says sign me up Yeah, I ain't got over Vanderbilt to get to run track. Listen man Cocktail stack ain't coming dog The best education you get honestly is when you travel in the world. But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

That should be the G League. I thought more people would follow it. Instead of having a bunch of 30-something-year-olds, I would put my 15, 16-year-olds, those very high-level guys, you put them in there, and they're just training on basketball. Be a professional. Because it's weird. That's what I'm saying.

When we're looking at the overseas and these 17-year-olds are playing against Right, because it's weird. That's what I'm saying. And make money, too. When we're looking at the overseas and these 17-year-olds are playing against each other, it's not even competition. Right? But unfortunately, they get to catch up

a little bit more because while they're in class, they're training. Yep. Right? So there should be some type of system and that's why I said

their professional is whatever their club team is. Our minor professional is actually the G League. Yeah. That's their club team is. Our minor professional is actually the G League. That's what it really is. And it should be filled with young talent. It should be filled

with young talent, not a bunch of 37-year-olds. My wife thought it was the funniest shit they ever had to have. You could pay them that 100K. And how much it is?

About 100K. Same shit as what Luke and them was getting back then. That's what I'm saying, yeah. You could give it to their families if you want.

I told my wife during the draft, all the European kids getting drafted, one, two, four, five. I said, yo, American basketball fucking sucks. She thought it was the funniest shit in the world. She's like, well, you got cash. I said, thank God that I can put all this shit into him. Cash Mark Donovick. I'm saying the skill set that he gonna have

when he listen to Jack. He be on his tippy toes already. The ball dad, he hit it right on the nail with his kids. Started a league for him everything. He was criticized.

Melo Ball was overseas playing like, bro, started their own brand. We shouldn't even have to go over there. There should be professional leagues.

There should be professional leagues just for the... It should be the G League. It should be professional leagues. There should be professional leagues. It should be the G League. It should be the G League. Just for the elite. It's not everybody. This ain't motherfucking AAU. It's kind of like how AAU was when we was coming up.

The teams that was coming in, motherfucker, it was all five stars. Yes. Right? Absolutely. If you was a freshman on an AAU team, you was him. You was like that.

Well, I was him. Played zero minutes. Everybody knew. That's yay. That's yay, bro. Everybody look at that list, they be like, all right, we got a senior,

senior, senior, junior, junior, a sophomore, freshman. Who the fuck is that? Yeah. Nigga, never get in. Hey, yo, nigga gotta be nice to make the 12-man rock.

You know how nice you had to be. I used to be an eighth grader. I used to love going to AAU. Right? On your AAU, Jim? Oh, you didn't get to play AAU, huh? Well, my last couple years, but not early on, not as a freshman, sophomore.

I was C-team. Yeah. Me and Dunley, we was on the same team. We were C-team. Pumpkin Run. Yeah, we was C-team. I get it. My Reebok team, we had three teams.

Yeah, yeah. So when I could play, we had one, two, three. Yeah. Platinum was a playoff. But that's how it should be. You should have these levels and tryouts every year. God damn it. My kid didn't make it.

Take your ass back to school. We're going to work. Try again next year, God damn it. Yeah. Yeah, our first team was stacked. So what is the baseball one? Why can't they run it like baseball?

Baseball is thick. So I think it's like A, then A+, double A, triple A. So what's the youngest you can be? You can get put into

a high school. A high school. So it's outside of high school still? But you're talking about graveyard. They're drafting kids, juniors.

But baseball, if you like that, they're going to find you. Exactly. Listen, they're not holding you back. One thing for sure, two things for certain in baseball. You can hit that thing, you can throw it. They're going to find you. Hey. You got to change it.

Soccer, soccer is. Soccer, same thing. You throwing that motherfucking 102 consistently. Hey. God damn it. There's a team for you. So what happens with the phenom soccer player? Where does he go? Most likely will go overseas.

Overseas? So he goes overseas and he's in a pro club. Yeah. Same situation. Tennis. Work their way up the... Golf. As I said, there's no phenom system for basketball.

No. Take your ass to college. Yeah, university. Go to Duke. High school four years, then university. Yeah, high school four years, then go to Duke. You know what's so funny is our phenoms got to go to seven different high schools in four years. That's the bad part.

If you were a phenom today, would you take the route overseas if you were 16, 17? Say a team wanted to come get your son, right? They'd be like, yo, say one of the top, I don't know, who, like? Yes. Like, one of the top teams over there, right?

Was like, yo, man, yo, we want your son right now. Because he gets to play, he's going to play against adults. Now he gets to learn and adjust and get that experience in. And then by the time he comes, like, it doesn't,

it doesn't, like, it's proven. You didn't play a lot when you went over there, but you learned a lot I learned a whole lot You said you didn't play but you learned a shitload of information that helped you when you came back for your weekend Like it's just it's just proven that you know, they can do it earlier. Yeah, that's what I had to graduate So I'm just saying like a kid 16 17, but that's proven though like the Lucas. Yeah, that's coming in like They're playing against NBA players at 16. Yeah.

So by the time two years, three years later, they're a whole different beast. Yeah, that picture with Luca and Russ. How old was he? Remember when Luca and Russ played that preseason game overseas? Yeah. How old was Luca? He was young.

16, 17, 18. No, he was young. Yeah. Against the Lakers, remember? One MVP over here, which is wild. A year later, right? Just imagine. Because I know there was...

Did he play against Boston Celtics? He came over here when he was young. Yeah, one came in, but everybody was talking about the age and the fact that he's a pro. Right? I think Kobe was in the league. He was 13 years old.

I think Rubio, something similar. Yeah, Rubio. He played against Brazil, the Goodwill team. We went australia nene and barbosa was on that team and they was fucking 17 i think but when i played against rubio overseas he was so advanced like just just mannerism though you know you big on mannerisms just how you get get prepared i was just like bro i got a lot to i got a lot to get like i gotta get going like it's just it was just they're playing against adults since he's been pro. Like, I'm still in the high school mode.

He's a pro. Like, just, damn. Yeah, no, it's beneficial to him to get going early. Especially when you know this is what they want to do, man, and we know it. Why not? Right? Yeah, yeah.

What happened with the GC? Like, tell you right now, Jack, 10 years. And I think it would be easier for guys to go overseas now to play because of social media. Like back then, 09, we had Skype. You could still be in touch with us. But what I'm saying is we don't need to go over there if we just create our own system. Well, whatever it is, I'm going to pop you. Yeah, well, then give us the G League then.

I said, well, then the NBA needs to just give us the G League. You should just have A division, B division. Well, we got 10 years before I got to make it. We making that decision right now. I'm going to tell you right now. Cash six. He said six. But you already see it.

Oh, he's all in. Hey, he used the teams. Like, this shit is wild. Listen, Cash all in, bro. I ain't forcing him. So all it is is me knowing what I know and shooting coaches and everybody we know, KJ and all these boys.

Listen, we gonna have an animal. Want me to tell you how crazy it is? How old is the Sarkid? They're 18, right? Hmm? The Sarkids? I guarantee you, I guarantee you, what Olympics did he try out for?

What qualifier? No, qualifier. Because that means he had to run up against the boozers. What class? Banchero names. He had to play against like that group, which he probably got his ass bodied. Because you remember, because it's that, so he had to play the 2000, he's 19,

he had to play the 2015, no, he might have missed it all. That, uh, 2017, 2008, no, no, no. 21, 22, 23. He had to play in any of those games, right? USA games for his French team? He was... The FIBA teams? Under-17. You talking about Alex Starr? Yeah, under-17.

Under-17 team in 2022. They won bronze and then... We won gold, right? For sure. Who was on that team? On the USA team. The USA team? Hold on. That's what I'm saying.

The team that mopped through them, they got to go to college. Why? He gets to be number one pick. And now they're sitting there like, this nigga here, boy. Right? No, for real. Because you got to wait another year. You're just waiting years.

I don't know. I want to see more. I don't know. I want to see some changes, though. What year was that? 2023. 2022. That would have been Cooper Flagg now. Cooper Flagg. Yeah, Flagg was see more. I don't know. I want to see some changes, though. What year was that? 2023? 2022. That would have been Cooper Flagg now.

Cooper Flagg, Corey Peete. Yeah, Flagg was on there. Peete was on there. Yeah. Ron Holland. DJ Wagner was on that squad. That would have been that team. Yeah.

Well. Yeah. All right, so quickly before we move on. So in that same ESPN interview that LeBron did with David Menneman, he was asked if he thinks the Lakers can win another title before he retires. He said, of course, because we've done it before. He also talked about the Lakers' struggles in free agency, striking out with some of the big names, saying that it takes two to tango, and that he appreciated the front office's

efforts to get it done. Sometimes guys want to do it, sometimes they don't. But will the Lakers win another chip before LeBron retires? You know you can lie. I'm not lying. We need a parade. Give us our parade. Give us our parade, so that means we're going to have to win it

and just double down on that parade. Before we retire? Hell no. We don't know what he's retiring so Well, we don't Say yeah, I'm gonna say yeah. Well not with this roster. They're not winning it Roster bread solid enough to win it If we wouldn't had to play Denver Would you put we didn't have to play Denver the first round? We probably could have went to Western Conference final

We probably could have could have beat the Thunder as the a yeah, we would have beat the thunder Are we to play the Mavs or the We played the Mavs if they were the A-seed, right? With a smack look in them, no problem. Yeah, see? Different strategy. Yeah, and then we'll beat Boston, you know what I mean? Beat Boston in six. You see how close we was to win?

You see how close we was to win a championship? And that's something motherfuckers be doing, right? If this difference wasn't there, it would've been us. We would've smacked through them. We'd just be making a few. We'd just be making a whole playoff. Just made a whole... How you want it to go in your head. How you want it to go in your head.

That's how it should have been. A whole alternate playoff. That's kind of crazy. We ain't getting nobody though. We got D-Lo back. You guys have a new coach. Dalton Kinnick. I mean, that was the biggest. You guys did want a new coach though. JJ Reddick. He wasn't a problem. They need a new coach. Dalton Kinnick. I mean, that was the biggest. You guys did want a new coach, though. JJ Reddick. He wasn't a problem. They need a new player.

Mind the Game podcast host. Yeah, but they was off Darvin Ham. They was trying to get a new player. We got a new and improved Austin Reed. It's a lot, bro. Going there, the tail end of your career, you know they're going to blame everything on you. We got hope at the beginning of the season.

She gonna be in the locker room. End-season tournament. End-season tournament. Champs. Hope gonna be in the locker room, baby. Already won a championship. I can definitely see the Lakers winning an end-season tournament. End-season tournament again. Back-to-back champs. They gonna make sure LeBron win that every year.

Back-to-back champs. We gonna give you that now. Some will say the most important championship because any team can win it. We're going to make sure LeBron wins that every year. Back to back champs. We're going to give you that now. We're going to give you that one. Some would say the most important championship because any team can win it. Every team is the hardest. Every team is elegant. No, yeah, that's the hardest one because everybody's excited. Everybody thinks they can get it.

Who doesn't want to go to Vegas and get 500 recs? All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Y'all are getting paid 500 apiece. Yeah. So it's time for a new segment here on Gil's Arena. Since it's the offseason, we want to rank the top-tier teams in the playoff picture in each conference on paper. So we're going to start with the East. So when we say playoff picture, we mean the top six spots only,

as those are the teams that actually are in the playoffs, no playing included. So if the couch agrees on where a team should be ranked, they will be added to our extremely sophisticated whiteboard. You see it. Spare no expense. Now you're under Dog Fantasy. Only the finest ink and markers.

This is where the official ranks will live. We need at least two out of three of our crew to agree before we can move on. If we can't agree on where to rank a team, then we'll leave it up to the chat to decide. So our production team decided on eight East teams that will be vying for the top six spots. We're going to start with your favorite, you and Brandon's favorite team, Milwaukee Bucks. 49-33, third in the East last season. Lost in six games in the first round to the Pacers, but Giannis Dame, both injured in that series. So key offseason moves.

This is a point of criticism for the Bucs. They picked up Torian Prince and DeLon Wright while losing sharpshooter Malik Beasley to the Pistons, but they should have a healthy Giannis. Unfortunately, Thanasis. Oh, Prince is over there? Malik, who? We lost who? Huh? Malik Beasley? lost who? Huh? Who we lost?

Malik Beasley. He wasn't hitting shit anyway. You also lost the Nats' torn Achilles. Damn. But they're going to sign him back, right? I believe he's still on the squad. He can do what he was doing. He can do what he's doing without us.

Can you remain to be seen if you will still be as effective with the bad will? So, six spots in the East. Where should the Bucs rank amongst our paper champions? I'm going to say three. Brandon has the Bucs at three. So we're saying healthy, everybody healthy. We'll go full health. The Nats are still able to

make his contributions from the bench. Brandon has the Bucks at three. Oh my God, boom, boom, everybody healthy. Four. Mm-hm. Yeah, Doc's still the coach. And as important to mention, Doc Rivers. So you say 3B?

But has now a full training camp. Hold on, we got, you say 3B? Yeah, three. Boston, Philly. Like three, four.... You say 3B? Yeah, three. Boston, Philly. Like three, four. Shouldn't we just put them at number one right now and then see what other teams...

Nah, nah. Hell no, hell no. Hell no. Doc Rivers. Hey, let's stop the bullshit. Put Boston at one, man. We don't know what team. We don't know what team.

They might not even get us a team. They may not be... They may not be in our list. I'm going to go with three. You're going three? I'm going to go three-two. Brandon says three. Gil says three.

Kenyon, where do you have the book? I say three. Tough Eastern Conference. Doc Rivers now full training camp. Has Darvin Ham on his staff as well all right all right so consensus that the books we have we did not expect that we did not expect that good they got it we can't switch it all right experience but Experience. I thought they moved the box at the top. We can still move it. But they're not. Oh, I thought we had to.

But they're not. I thought this was like. We're not going to put them at one. I thought this was like YouTube. They don't belong at one. So we're not going to put them at one. That's what YouTube did. Wherever you put them at.

But we don't think they're the best team. They stay there. And then you don't. Because you don't know who you're going to get. Oh, OK. Because there's 16 teams. We don't know what team you're going to put. We're doing eight today.

But we don't know what teams you're going to put. So wherever we put them, we get. So next. OK. Next get... So, next. Okay. Next team. So, the Couch. Wow, fishing guys. We might get through this in an ample amount of time

to enjoy the rest of our day. We're going to disagree at our age. So, right now, the Bucks rank third amongst our Eastern Conference paper champions. Our next team up, the New York Knickerbockers. Woo! As you see, we have a Knicks fan. I'm going to go four.

So let me do my preamble, Gil. Look, this is my joy as a host to be able to do this. Okay, do your thing. Okay, this is how I get paid. Feed my family. They were 50-32 last season, second in the East. Lost to the Pacers in seven games in the Eastern Conference semifinals. So traded for Mikael Bridges, re-signed OG Ananobi.

Lost Isaiah Hartenstein to the Thunder, though. Where should the Knicks rank amongst our paper champions? Second last season, Adam Mikael Bridges. Mitchell Robinson should be healthy. Julius Randle should be healthy. Tom Thibodeau will still be working them like slaves. Miami didn't get anybody. Who did Orlando get? KCP.

And they brought the Wagner brothers back. We will talk about the Magic in a second, though. Yeah, I'm going to stay four. You're going to stay four? You're going to move Milwaukee up and put in the next third. That's not how you suppose. Y'all playing something else. I envision this is doing something. We have hijacked the arena.

Honestly, I got the Knicks too. No shit. The Knicks at second. I got the Knicks too. In Adam Silver's Eastern Conference from Brandon Jennings. Kenya, where do you believe the Knicks will fare in the Eastern Conference next season? They finished top three last year, right? Second. Second. Yeah.

That shit was luck. A fluke, if you will. Yeah, they finished second because y'all tanked it. Because y'all went 17-19. Yeah, but they got better though. And Joel wasn't healthy. So, I mean... Y'all went 17-19 for y'all went 17-19. Yeah, but they got better. And Joel wasn't healthy. I mean. Y'all went 17-19 for y'all to jump to third.

That's how, yeah. So what do you think we're going to do this year? Yeah, them losing. That's why I have you at three. Yeah. So you can't. So them losing, Hardenstein going to hurt. Because you can't depend on Mitchell Robinson.

Yeah, I just. So I. That. Yeah. Don't know, I don't know if Julia, if Julius Randle is gonna be there. Hey, man, Julius. Yeah, what they gonna do with that, or if he gonna be the four, but if they, that's still, yeah, I don't. I'm gonna, I say you had it first because four four was Orlando this year and Cavs was fifth right I believe yeah so that I'm gonna go Bucks too man four or five is the Bucks have been... Yeah, B, of the team that's coming back, health, everything,

I think the Bucs is two. You think the Bucs is two? I think the Bucs is two from what I'm... You're taking the Bucs over Philly right now? Because they haven't played together. We have not. But I'm just discussing it. We're chatting about the New York Knick.

Yeah, so, we got to do this. So, in order to put the Knicks where I think they belong right now, I think I need to move the Bucs up to two. I'm rolling.

I'm going to put the Bucs moving to two. Yeah, because I can't put, I can't put the Knicks at two. We have now jumped the Bucs. I can't put the Knicks at two. Do we have a racer? Can we move? We can move, T. I agree. So, we both agreeucs. I can't put the Knicks at two. Do we have a racer? Can we move?

We can move, Tinky? I agree. So we both agree with two. Two out of three. I can't put the Bucs. All right. Because I can't put the Knicks at two. Okay.

Put the Bucs at... No, two out of three. Two out of three. So we... We have taken over the arena. So Bucs will now move to two. Bucs, moving up. So Gil, you said Knicks at four.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kenny, where do you feel the Knicks So, Gil, you said Knicks at four. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kenny, where do you feel the Knicks are? Four. You have Knicks at four as well? Yeah. And, Brandon, where do you feel the Knicks belong? Don't matter.

Two. Don't matter, yeah. Four. Five. Okay, so two out of three, set four. We'll put the Knicks in the fourth spot in our paper champ poll. On our elaborate whiteboard, underdog fantasy spare, no expense. Yeah.

Next. Next team. The Indiana Pacers. 47-35 last season. Sixth in the Eastern Conference. Lost to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals in a sweep. So key offseason moves, they re-signed Pascal Siakam, signed James Wiseman, and we'll be getting a healthy Ben Mathering back. Where should the Pacers rank amongst our paper champions? You have Bucks at two, Knicks at four currently.

Five. I was going to say five. Five there. I can see five. Got Ben back. Nassi Alcum's there the whole season, right? He wasn't there the whole season last year, right? Was traded?

Man, five. Five. Five. Five. Five. Pacers fifth. From the words from the Piru's. What up, five?

Not familiar with that language. Pacers fifth in the East. All right, now let's move on to our next team. Miami Heat. 46-36 last season. Eighth in the Eastern Conference. Lost to the Celtics in the first round in five games, but beat the Bulls in the final East playing.

Jimmy Butler, obviously, injured. So key offseason moves. None to speak of, really. But they did lose Caleb Martin to Philly. Caleb Martin went to Philly? Caleb Martin went to Philly for Les Brett. Where should the Heat... Jimmy Butler's on his contract here.

Jimmy Butler will be playing this season out as he looks for an extension. Yeah, Pat Riley did. I don't have him on the board. I'm going to be honest. They should not be in that top six. In top six? No, I think they'll be fighting 7th, 8th. Re-signed Bam. Yeah, he's not...

They don't have... Jaime Jaquez is a year older and stronger. They're not on that list. Yeah, top six? No, they're not on that list. Not right now, they're not. So they will... Not right now, they're not. Yeah. Right now, they're not. I don't see them... Yeah, right now, yeah, they're not. I don't see them. Yeah, right now they're out right now. He did not make any cuts. It could change, but seven ain't on the board, so.

Top six teams. Yes. Our playoff qualifiers, no issues. Yeah, this is not that play-in shit. Next up, Cleveland Cavaliers. They were 48-34 last season, fourth in the East, lost to the Celtics in the Eastern Conference semis.

So, re-signed Donovan Mitchell. Darius Garland's future still unclear, but as of right now, he is a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Who's their coach? Kenny Atkinson.

Kenny Atkinson. They come from Golden State. Where should the Cavs rank amongst our paper champions? They're going to be fighting for that 7th, 8th? They don't got a man either. Yeah, let's see if Donna Mitchell their number one option. Did y'all think about the rest of the Eastern Conference? Obviously y'all ain't set her and went through the Eastern Conference in your brain. Yeah, they didn't get it. Because they were, where were they at last year? They were four or was Orlando four? They were four.

Orlando was four. They were four. So, yeah, they out. Yes. Were they seven? Seven, like, yeah. Seven, yeah. So Cavs did not make the cut. Cavs out?

Yeah, because I think the coach had a lot to do with it. J.B. Biggerstaff led them to their first playoff series win since the LeBron era. And he in Detroit now, right? Yes. Did he get hired? Yes. Got booted. Yes.

J.B. Biggerstaff is in Detroit. Got the boot after five games. Between them and... I think the Magic better than him. Yeah. J.B. Biggestaff is in Detroit. Got the boot after five games. Between them and... I think the Magic better than them. Yeah. Yeah. J.B. Biggestaff currently the head coach of the Detroit... Our next squad.

The Philadelphia 76ers. 47-35 last season. Seventh in the Eastern Conference. Lost in the first round to the Knicks in six games. So a ton of off-season moves. They got Paul George, Eric Gordon, Kayla Martin, and Andre Drummond, to name a few. Parted ways with Tobias Harris after his contract expired.

But in true Tobias Harris fashion, he was able to finesse another bag. They look like I'm going to go with three, but they can fuck around and be one low-key. They can fuck around and be one low-key. 76 can be the top team. Because just Joel Embiid by himself is a three seed. Him by himself is a three seed.

Yeah, I'm just thinking because of the Bucs play that the last ball George just knew, so that's why. Yeah, that's what I said. Once Bucs went up. It was easy. It's easy to go from there one two three at Boston coming off championship back had a championship late and it can be just get ready for the playoffs shit Let's finish in the top two top top. Yeah, type shit cuz none of us gonna get VP Yeah, don't matter why we going at heart shit type shit So 76ers after is going to get MVP, so it don't matter why we're going that hard. Type shit. Type shit. Type shit. So 76ers at three. Yeah, three.

Comfortable with 76ers. Any thoughts on moving them up to two ahead of Milwaukee? Yeah, it could. Yes, yeah. Because of Doc. Oh, yeah. Because of Doc and because of just – but then you got to go with the fact that the Bucs got more experience playing together right now

than the 76ers as a team because a lot of new pieces are going to be in Philly this year, including Paul George. So, yeah, I think right now it's a safe third, but could be two damn show one the way this shit is. Top three, okay. But we will hold the 76ers in this third spot right now. That's what I said, Philly is like one. I think they too, bro.

I think the bus is going to slip. And that's my team. I just. You know what? No. That's what we are. Think about. Yeah.

Y'all had to go 17 and 19 at the end of the season. Yeah. To get to third. Mm. Right? Y'all had to bring in third. Right? Y'all had to bring in Doc, do everything in his power to get you to third.

So that's how far in second you guys were. So I don't put anything in front of Greek. So that's why when y'all said two, I'm like, no. So we're comfortable keeping this.

Just so you guys know, the chat, 53% of the chat has the Sixers in second rank. Yeah. I'm rolling with that. I'm cool with that. I'm rolling with the Sixers at second and the Bucs at third. So I'm going Philly two, Bucs three. OK.

I'm rolling. Two of three agreed on it. Yep. So back to where we was going to put it before. Yeah, back to, yeah. But I did that because I didn't want to put the Knicks in two. I just had a hard time. Elaborate graphics.

Hi, Tech. Ladies and gentlemen, we spare no expense here at Gil's Arena. All right, now let's move on. Next team up, the Orlando Magic. They were 47-35 last season, fifth in the East, lost in the first round of the Cavs in seven games. So key offseason moves, sign KCP, retain the Wagner's, Mo and Franz. Where should the Magic ranks amongst our paper champions?

Six. Easy. And how come Orlando there and not Cleveland? I think they're a better team. Yeah, I just think they're better. And they lost their coach, and I think Jamal Mosley is going to do a hell of a job again. The guy's got more experience this year.

Yeah, their star player is going to go on his third year, so he's going to be more dominant. Yeah. Yeah. Too much turbulence in Cleveland. Is Darius Garland's situation scaring you guys away from Cleveland a little bit? No. It's more about Orlando's growth.

He can be there, and I still think Orlando. But that's Orlando's upside. Paulo's leap. Just in all honesty, right, if the Magic would have finished fourth and the Cavs would have finished fifth, then the Magic would have finished fourth and the Cavs would have finished fifth, then the Magic would have won that series. They just couldn't. Because nobody went at home,

so it's just what it is. Very, very factual. And Paolo making that third-year leap. Yeah, that third-year leap would be huge. Jamal Mosley, four-year extension, so they have some coaching security there. Near Disney World. So activities in the area.

All right, let's move on. For the very young team they have. To our final team. Curious how this is going to pan out. The Boston Celtics, 64-18, last season best record in the NBA by a comfortable margin. Won the NBA Finals in five games over the Mavs. Key offseason moves, running it back.

Bags have been broken. Jason Tatum, largest contract in NBA history. Drew Holiday re-signed, Derek White re-signed. Jalen Brown already under his deal. Poor Zingas. Y'all see that meme of LeBron looking at the payroll, where they getting all this money from? Boston won for sure.

Where they getting all this money from? I got him out. Also for shout out to their ownership group. Get out while the getting is good. We are not trying to get caught up with this new CBA second aprons and all this other

malarkey Somebody take this quad off our heads. I hope I say like that because the Bucs play the magic We're gonna get them out of here first round Bucs magic the 3-6 you feel the Bucs could win that series Yeah, for sure if it stayed like this and we get a Knicks Pacers rematch at 4-5 First round, too. Yeah. You rolling with it?

So, Heaton Cavs chilling his island. No, they're in 7-8. Bound for the play-in, though. Not locked into a playoff spot. Well, you got to add another team. Well, the Cavs will make the playoffs, though. Like, I am giving them that. The Cavs making the playoffs this year?

7-8? You think if Garland and them are beefing? They better figure it out. They will. Trade me nothing. But I don't see the Cavs not making the playoffs, though. Nah, I mean, I think they'll make the playoffs. 7-8 for sure.

But... That's what I'm saying. He's going to grind. They're going to grind. But I think J.B. Biggest, like like the way he preached defense and how they defended with his I don't think they lose that Who else is so what a Detroit? Who so it just gave?

Yeah, no better. Okay, Cunningham got a guy Three hey the difference maker, you know, but it's still tryingerstaff, culture. They're going to be better. I ain't saying they're going to be better. They're going to compete. They were competing last year, right? They lost a lot of close games. They were just losing close games. It was not like they just had bad attitudes. Who? They didn't have bad attitudes. They're young teams.

They're just young losing teams. I ain't saying they're going to make a nose. A record losing streak, but tough. Yeah, they could. I mean, they probably just need a veteran that just knows how to calm them down. Tobias Harris

could be that man. They got somebody else too, didn't they? Hawks. Oh. Oh, the Hawks. I forgot about them. I call you East Oshay.

I'm just thinking about the other teams in the East that could possibly be eighth. You got the Hawks? Mm. Bulls?

No. No. That's it, right? Mm. Bulls? No. Is it right? Toronto, no. Washington Wizards? No. Washington, no. So basically this is probably the 7-8 NBA map. Just roll out eight teams in the league. You can throw a Hulk in the middle.

In the out section? You're saying you got 7, 8, nine, then you got another team that's in that motherfucker, 10, that they give a chance to that's going to have

fucking 60 losses. Motherfucker going to be 22 and 60 and got a chance to get in the playoffs in 10th place. And that could be Detroit then. The joy fuck around being

playing in the playing game. It is the Eastern Conference, Gil. It is the Eastern Conference. They can fuck around getting in the playing game then. The Jets are fucking around being playing in the playing game. It is the Eastern Conference, Gil. It is the Eastern Conference. They can fuck around getting in the playing game then. Because Brooklyn, they trade their best players. Nah.

Yeah, the Nets are tapped out. Yeah, we can figure it out. Yeah, shit. Because they took enough losses. They took enough ass from last year to just know how to... They see they done lost

every which way they can possibly lose to understand You know how to keep the composer Hawks were 10th in the East last season. So you might get the number one pick So net Carter's mom teams that were out last Nets Raptors Hornets Wizards Pistons Nets Raptors Hornets Wizards Pistons. I think Pistons jump you could say Hornets as well healthy lamella Brandon Miller coming I mean I got to see the first 15 games with them Let's jump. You could say Hornets as well. Healthy LaMelo. Brandon Miller coming. I mean, I got to see the first 15 games with them.

That's going to let me know with Charlotte. That's interesting, though, for that 10th spot in the East, so much boo-boo amongst them that one of it has to flow to the top of the pole. Oh, pack me. Mm-hmm. I mean, Melo Ball in the playoffs would be good for... Enjoyable to watch. Because he's exciting.

So, looks like we've come to a consensus. The Celtics at one, 76ers at two, Bucs at three, Knicks at four, Pacers at five, Magic at six, Heat and Cavs vying for a play-in. So, make sure you stay tuned. Tomorrow, we will rank the Western Conference paper champs, which will be, I think, a much more thrilling debate and discussion. A lot more room

for Lakers. Get to that number one. See if y'all gonna be honest. You know they not. Not at all. They gonna have Lakers one.

I already got them in at three-four. I already got them at 3-4. Home court in first round. For sure. Three or four. For sure. Home court.

Realistic. D-Lo's back. Shit. And we got Nick Young on the show tomorrow, so he might be the... Oh, yeah. He might balance it out. The balancing factor. But let's

move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download that. Use promo code GIL. You can get $250 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. I got my Kenyon Martin's on today. Uh-uh. My S. Carter's. You know, I had to go get them out of

the eBay. What? You got my eBay? I got these S.Dot cars back in the day? Good S.Dots, man. Bought them on eBay. Can't say he used to wear them, so I had to go show the OG. Did you ever wear black or all whites? My majority was all white. I had every color imaginable.

Oh, they had S.Dot? I would send them color waves and they'd just make them. Oh, shit. Yeah, I was, yeah. So, Jay-Z, if you're watching, I need you to sign these for me. What you talking about? You're going to sign it in black. That's funny.

You probably would, man. Like, damn, can't you see it, Jay? Black ink. So, our first question is from underdog user kingshock82. If you needed a bodyguard, who would you hire? The Equalizer, John Wick, the Transporter, or Jason Bourne? Okay, wait, hold on. You said bodyguard.

If you needed a bodyguard, who would you hire? Jason Bourne. Jason Bourne? Yeah, he don't need no gun. Yeah, he don't need no gun. I don't want a nigga without no gun. He don't need it. I know, I know what I'm saying, okay.

He nice with it, but he don't need it to stop you. Like, to not cause a scene where he gotta, like John Wick gotta shoot you. Yeah. Equalizer, he make a lot of noise. Somebody said John Wick. No, that is not an option. John Wick, not an option.

John Wick, transport. Yeah, I'm going. See, it's hard. It's hard because none of them was bodyguards. They were just, I'm on killing sprees. I don't know how they knew when there's another motherfucking ball. A bodyguard is like, yeah, like, Debo on killing sprees, I don't know how they do when there's another motherfucking ball. A bodyguard is like, yeah, like Deebo.

No, no, I gotta protect him. Nah, nah, nah, Deebo got knocked out. Nah, Deebo got knocked out. Like move out, pop, pop, pop. Deebo got knocked out by Chris. Deebo got knocked out by Chris. Jason Bourne, dog. Jason Bourne.

Hell yeah. Deebo and Damon. Double 07. Jason Bourne, assassin. Yo, I'm saying Jason Bourne, his mission was like he was an assassin first So producers pointed out born has memory issues though. That's fine My hand had memory yeah, like remembering like who he would but he knew what he skill set was what it was

Right. Yeah, he can have memories but his skill set what it was. He can't diminish the man that he was an assassin. He was trained to. He's a trained killer to get in and get out. Transport, I'm gonna be sick the whole time because we just gonna be driving. And we gonna get away. We gonna get away.

We gonna get away. We gonna get away, but. I ain't see John Wick munching cars like that. No ways needed. And no love for the equalizer. What about 007, James Bond? That wasn't part of it. We had four options.

Yeah, I'm going to go. Down that road with Denzel? Yeah, I'm going to go Bourne. I'm going Bourne. I'm going to go Jason Bourne, man. He had different passports. Yeah, it's like a motherfucker. I'm going to go John Wick because we need the gold coin.

If I hit him, you know, give him a gold coin, your body's... I mean, your body will never be found either. You know, they come clean it up right after. Give him the gold coin. I'm just... What happened? That's cool. That's a tough way to go up.

You find your body, but they ain't going to be telling you how you died. That's what I want. All right, let's move on. Tell you how you died. To our next question, underdog user bucketbucket207. Luka in Slovenia failed to qualify for the Olympics. Is this actually what's best for him after a long season? Yes.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Slovenia? Great country, Gil. Near Italy. Yeah, they didn't make it, so yeah. No, I think it's good for him no issues with Slovenia

girl please alright we don't want to take this international I've been to Slovenia they got some good chicken and rice by the way

okay didn't he grow up playing on the Spain team right he wasn't with Real Madrid I think he was a pro. Pro in Real Madrid, right?

That was his team, right? Real Madrid? Yeah, but he's probably from... No, I understand what I'm saying. He would have had to do a passport where he could have played on that team. Real Madrid. Real Madrid. It's a contract.

I know, but what I'm saying is, so this is who he grew up in this country, playing with them, not his home team. So he's coming back to probably a team he's never even, none of these guys he's ever played with. That is, like, people don't realize, that's weird because if he's 6, 13, 14, 15, and he played over in Barcelona the whole time, I remember the Spain team,

him coming to this team, I don't know these fucking guys. I mean, he know them, but not know them. He don't know them, but he know them. Do we? Yeah, I mean, he go back home. He definitely know what's popping in his head. He started playing in Slovenia, I believe,

with his pops hometown team, but like running up the ranks of that. I think when he was 80, he was playing 11 and under, then he moved to the under 14 team. When did he go pro? When he went pro, like 13, 14, right? So,

what I'm saying is, 13 years old. Five years, signed a five year contract with Real Madrid at 13 years old. Damn. Yeah, so it's like,

so basically, I signed Kasane right now. Damn, 13. I just never thought about when you, like when you said this, I'm like, oh yeah, but wait, hold on. I thought he, same thing with Jokic, where did he play growing up? Did he play in Serbia? Let me pull it up.

I don't know, they got two. I just be wondering, like, because they got to have dual, you got to have a dual passport to play in those countries, right? So they could. Do you have to have a dual passport, though? I don't know. I don't think so, right? It's no different than, Brandon, you'd have to get an Italian passport when you went out. No.

No, but I think when Poo, where was Poo playing? He was playing somewhere, Poo Jetter. He was playing overseas and they gave him a passport. I think he became a Ukrainian citizen. Certain places you probably have to in order to move around.

So when you come over to work, I think that's part of it. You have to in order to move around to certain countries. They don't accept American passports. It just seems weird that he's going to go and play for his team knowing damn well. Like to him, he's like, I know we're not going to win it. Let me just go out here and get 30, 50, and 50 and then fuck on to my vacation. Just so the country, I tried. Yeah, show face.

Yeah. Not bad, hey, hold on. All right, next question. Bam. Underdog user, Lickitsme59, been taking a lot of our bread. Jason Tatum, is Jason Tatum the best player to wear number zero ever? No. Is Jason Tatum the best player to wear number zero ever? No.

Is Jason Tatum the best player to wear number zero ever? No. Gilbert Renis. Who is the best player to wear number zero ever? Westbrook. You got Westbrook over Tatum? Yeah. Yeah.

Over Tatum? Just hosting. Just hosting. Not a nomination? Tatum is new. Taking away, taking nothing away? Oh, yeah, he's new. Thank you. Yeah. Overtake, just hosting. Not a nomination. Tate is new. Taking away, taking nothing away. Oh yeah, he's new.

Thank you. You talking about somebody who's what, 10 times, 12 times All-Star, All-NBA? Come on. They ain't close. Not close. No, no, no. Russell Westbrook, greatest player to wear number zero ever. Not even close. I'm trying to think, but I can't find, you know, yeah.

Nine-time All-Star, two-time scoring champ, three-time assist champ, nine-time All-NBA, two-time All-Star MVP, MVP. Yeah. Russ. Russ. In Russ we trust. Who's your top three number zeros? Russ, Dame, then Tatum.

Where do you rank yourself amongst that group? Probably five. I'd probably put Kevin Love before me. Ooh. Ooh. I'd put Kevin Love. Kevin. Kevin Love was number zero? Yes, sir.

Where? Cleveland. Cleveland. Kevin Love was number zero? At Cleveland? Yeah. No love. No love.

I didn't know that. You get no love. Well, yours is like... It's different. You start a course in college and they give you an I for incomplete. Yeah. But why you put name before you because of what? Your career because it didn't work out?

Yeah, exactly. But that doesn't mean you're a better player. You got hurt. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that people are better than certain people because they kept going. No, I just got hurt. What I've done in this time, you wasn't on that level. No, no, no.

Not facts. But if that's facts, then... But it's still body of work. Your body of work still matters. I mean, okay, well, thank you. Okay, well, God made sure your body of work was, but that don't mean you're better than me, though. True.

True. Like, you just kept going. That's all. I don't. Injuries happen. I'm fighting that, though. But, I mean, if you think Dane better than you, that's fine. I just don't think.

No, it's just the body of work. Body of work. Okay. Every time I'm all, hey, I go back. Yeah, he probably think he's better. Every time All-Stars, every time All-NBA, I go like that. He's just looking at of work. Body of work. Okay. Every time I go back, every time All-Stars, every time All-NBA, I go like that.

He's just looking at what that fucking computer, that phone, that's all he's going. The resume, I go by the resume. He don't think he better than the trust. Uh-huh.

By the grace of God, so. No, because I've been, I've been binge-watching my highlights the other last week and I've been taking care of me. I was busting motherfuckers. Exactly.

All these new, all these all-star appearances and these numbers and all that shit on them lists, I was giving motherfuckers hell. And I'm watching playoff series. I ain't just watching. I'm watching where we, I'm at them. It's like some of these things, we can't even, we can't even, it can't even be used anymore in debates.

It's like all stars and all NBAs, right? It's hard to use it with so many new different things that's been added into it, right? So when you look back in the day, and it's like a guy got 12 All-Stars, and you're like, well, there's only 90 people in your league.

No, but there's 90 people in the league. It's not like the All-Star game was like 5-on-5. It was 12-on-12 still. 11-on-11, 10-on-10. So 20-something percent of the league

made the All-Star game. So if you was a starter, you damn near made the All-Star. You were pretty close to just being the All-Star. Same thing with All-NBA. It ain't three teams, but it's two teams. So you're talking about 90 players. Think about some of the guys that was making All-Stars in All-NBA versus now. You only added two more spots, but 400 more players.

So somebody who's a three-time All-Star now, compared to, I don't know what it equates to, with somebody that, you know, got 12 All-Stars back in 1960. And how does that even... Like, there was guys off the bench. All-Stars, Hall of Fame. Because, I mean, the league, there was really not many people. I'm with you.

Yes, fuck injuries and surgeries, too, FYI. Like, I was saying, I said that shit, like, six times the last, like, three days. Fuck injuries. You started looking at your shit, man. Fuck injuries and surgeries. Yeah, because I just feel like certain people in their careers, when they're hooping, and, like, you know, Gil, you know, a lot of people's shit, you can go, Penny, Penny, you know, like, I just feel like, bro, at thatoping and like, you know, Gil, you know, a lot of people shit, you can go,

Penny, Penny, you know, like, I just feel like, bro, at that time, like, I know you got hurt, but I ain't see that from them at that age or, you know, I just, I don't know. It's just... That's why whenever I make an argument, like, I can't, because I can't take away what they've done because I didn't get to that point. No, for sure.

So I always say, by the, before I got hurt, by the age of 25, if you want to rank us by then, boom, let's go ahead. But after that, I can't even compete.

Okay. And that's how I do it. I can't, I can't compete. I was hurt 26, 27, no boy, no woman.

Yeah, because you said that about Curry. Yeah. He said at 25. By 25, I was three-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA player.

Okay. Got a lot of heat for that, but when you actually do the research. But when people reason why people actually what you say people just listen to listen to what he's saying This is you understand what he's saying? Niggas read just what they wouldn't oh shit. I'm fucking say what I'm worst three-time MVP They could be reading you You got a whole paragraph. I read three lines. Oh, you bitch ass nigga.

Damn, but I was complimenting you. And I got to go back and read it. Oh, my bad. Shit. Well, ladies and gentlemen, that is our program for today. We are one day closer to NBA Summer League. We're getting excited. Can someone go get a few brooms just in case?

Oh, for the... Make sure you pull up the No Chill Gills YouTube channel. It's very... It's just a great possibility. I'm about to bring this broom out on Brandon Jennings' squad. Game four, K and Brandon. Will K complete the sweep, or will Brandon keep the series alive? Keep hope alive.

We'll find out shortly. He don't know nothing about live. He's just picking teams because they like it. He's picking his old teammates. Well, fortunately for me, I have some really fucking good teammates. I guess they did. Yeah, yeah. Right, nigga.

I know, right? He picked Jake Giggler. That's his teammate. Duh. He picked, hey, that's his teammate. That's his teammate. Duh. That's his teammate. He picked Miller. That's his teammate.

Who the best double zero player? That's disgusting ass. Who the fuck wore a double zero? Kyle Watson from above the rim. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. KJ asked me about that shit I said. He went to Georgetown.

KJ asked me about the double zero. I said, I disown you. The best player to ever said, I'm going Kevin Duckworth. I said, I disown you. The best player to ever wear... Kevin Duckworth. The best player to ever wear it? Mellow. And he looked awful. He looked awful.

I was like, ooh, there's something about the... Because I saw Kevin Duckworth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Robert Parrish was a double zero. You put on double zero for Portland. Parrish, Parrish. I see Kevin Duckworth. Yeah, Parrish, yeah.

That's just what I... Ain't no way around it. As soon as I saw it, I said, ooh, Youngin. Yeah, Youngin, don't do that. Well, that is our show for today. We appreciate y'all plugging in with us. Shout out to Underdog Fantasy. We will see if K's team

gets a sweep. This is Gil Zerino presented by Underdog Fantasy. We'll see y'all tomorrow.