Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena GETS HOSTILE Debating The NBA's BEST Young PG

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Gil's Arena Debates Who Is The BEST Young PG In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LaMelo Ball & Ja Morant putting the league on notice last night with 2 HUGE performances that spark a Gil's Arena Debate over which under 25 star would be the best to build around as a franchise cornerstone. They also react to the Boston Celtics rout of the Los Angeles Clippers where Kristaps Porzingis returned to the court, allowing the reigning champs to flex their muscles as the deepest team in the NBA with Jrue Holiday, Derrick White, and Payton Pritchard surrounding superstars Jayson Tatum & jaylen Brown. Next, they break down another Eastern Conference rout as the New York Knicks bludgeoned the Denver Nuggets and showed they may not be too far behind the Celtics as OG Anunoby, Jalen Brunson & Karl Anthony Towns are finally starting to gel on the court. Finally, Gil & the Crew debate who is more likely to be the Western Conference's #1 Seed between the OKC Thunder & Golden State Warriors and check back in on the Philadelphia 76ers who are getting dangerously close to throwing in the towel this season and moving on from Joel Embiid. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Lexie Brown & Nick Young Ride or Fade Gil's Pack HERE - https://play.underdogfantasy.com/pp-ayCdYnqKpY Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Use CODE GIL For 50% Off Aura Watch SITEWIDE at https://aura.watch/gilsarena Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:57 Drake SUES Over Not Like Us 0:10:31 The Celtics New Strategy Is Changing The NBA 0:33:23 Knicks Beat Down on Jokic & Nuggets 1:00:07 Who Won The KAT-Randle Trade? 1:09:36 Gil's Arena Debates Who Should Be An All Star 1:14:29 The Nuggets' LA Hangover 1:24:25 Gil's Arena Mac & Cheese Bake Off 1:36:47 Who Is Most Likely To Be #1 Seed In The West 1:48:22 Which Young PG Would You Build A Team Around? 1:54:44 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's happening now at BHP, a future resources company. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. It's happening now at BH This is a first. L.A. is united. Yeah, be back. We can't be responsible for what's going on across the country, across the world, other nations. Be back. People getting real litigious. We said be back. Yeah, be back. You know.

West Coast is back. Don't try to come over here now. Wait, you think you're from the West Coast? Don't try to come over here now. You think it's fun now. You think it's fun to be outside? You was over on that Drake train. I ain't a come over here now. You think it's fun now? You think it's fun to be outside? You was over on that Drake train.

I ain't a man, hell no. Kendrick's your cousin, right? He real L.A. Oh, yeah. That your cousin? I wanted to tell Kendrick where he was over there partying. Uh-oh. I had a party with Drake.

You got a jacket, too. I seen you a little. He was on a plane with y'all. That was, that was. He was on a plane with y'all, right? Huh? Was that that year? He was on a plane with y'all. Uh-oh. Was that that year? He was on a plane with y'all?

Yeah. Uh-uh. Mm. Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Woo hoo hoo. Ain't gonna lie, he was cool. He was cool. He was cool.

Good dude? Good dude. OK. They usually are. Good dude. I ain't gonna lie. I could tell off the Greek. The Greek was like swag.

Hey. I'm like, OK, Drake, come to. Good to hear. What's up, Lex? Hey. Joe, I saw you running outside on my way here. My ginger paste. Perfect form.

Try to stay fit. You went like five miles? Like three and a half. A day? I wouldn't say running. Yes, Joe! Fast walk. Fast walk.

Chad's been packing me up. How many of y'all worked out this morning in the chat before y'all talked shit? You know, thank you, Lex. Good chatter. Yoga? Some headers. A little yoga. That's not a workout. Hot yoga is a workout. What is? Yeah.

That shit crazy, I'm telling you. I mean, I wouldn't, if you're trying to lose weight, I wouldn't say just do yoga. Hot yoga is a good workout. But it is a nice... Have you ever been in there? Mm-hmm. They got the weights and all that, bro. That's the one.

Nasty work in there. Nasty. Nasty. Hot, sweaty work. Sweaty work. Don't take showers before they get in there. You can't do that around me. Ooh, it's like a locker room in there.

Yeah, it's dirty. It's kind of hot yoga since we moved too. It's like a hot locker room. Stretching and shit. Yeah, what? Take a shower. Baby, baby. Hot yoga studio smells like a spa. I got Stretching and shit. Yeah, what?

Take a shower. Hot yoga studio smells like a spa. I got to sit in the very front. Yes. Nice work. Are you catching a whiff if you're in the front? You know them yoga pants, they wear them all the time. Man, you just wore those yesterday.

You got to wash them. I can still smell the perfume on you. See what they talking about. You know, this is Gil. This is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog. Oh, man, got your feet out. I got my socks on, brand new. Yes.

Out the pack. Because there's how many feet in there? Every day. You got a mat. That mat dirty. You don't bring your own mat, Gil? Sometimes you got to get a mat while you're here. Just wipe it before you get on it.

Oh, man. No communal mat. I don't want the weights, none of that. Y'all be sweating on the waist. Yeah, man, I might want all that. Y'all niggas is nasty. Just say you don't like the workout. That's cool.

Don't like the workout. Take that one for the cane butt. But none of that. They think they can just spray, like, as a treat. It make it worse. You ever go to the, uh, what is it, like the bowling alley and stuff? Yeah. They just get a little one puff, puff, puff, puff. No, man, you better get man.

I can't remember the last time I put on a bowling shoe. It's disgusting. Really? I can't. Communal. It's nasty. You put your hand in the bowl and hold your fingers in there. Hey, stop it. You're not supposed to do that.

You're not supposed to say that. I can't go bowling no more. I got my own ball too. It's still sweaty. You don't clean it after. Bowling is a gross activity. You don't clean. You put your fingers in there like this.

No, what? He's like, what's so funny? What's so funny? Give me my good hand. What he say? Give me my good hand. Give me my good hand. Give me my good hand. Give me my good hand. Give me my good hand. Give him a good hand. Give him a good hand.

Give him a good hand. Gonna put that in there. Back it on up. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend, Gilbert Reedus. No bowling for the first day. No bowling? No bowling.

No Applebee's, no bowling. No Applebee's, no bowling. Damn. You see what's going on here? You see what's going on? Applebee's and bowling? She is a professional, so you got to up your game up. Sitting next to Gil on this side of the couch.

You got to rent the Ferrari that made back. You want to putt, we'll go putt putt. You got to go broke on the first date. Putt putt is cool. That's to Puppet. You go to Puppet. You gotta go broke on the first date. Puppet is cool. That's still dirty, though. It's still dirty. You don't got all the food in this. And you gonna eat burgers after you.

Every day. I don't know where this show's going, but we always go somewhere. But we got the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants, back in the arena. On this side, we got a pair of champions. Yes. NBA World Champion of the World, Swaggy P, Nick Young,

with the turkey hat. And WNBA Champion of the World, Lexi Brown. Back in the arena. Uh-oh, tick-tocking. Go ahead. You don't know. Oh, this is the champ side. Yeah, man.

Well, get closer to Hampton and all that. It's not that's not fashion, bro What's not fashion? It's called poor. Yeah, I'm good What the rips in the you got a ripped shirt and then you put what is what is that Bobby pins in them? What is that called? Safety pins and like it's like that's not. Yes. Uh-oh. Thank you. Is that yours?

What? You hit it with the Steve Austin joint? What did he hit me with? The Steve Austin. What did he hit me with? Let me hit it again. Hit it again? That's it.

Play it for me. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo. Everybody got sound effects. Hey, Nick. Hey, Nick. I like that. I want a sound effect. I like that. I got it.

You got to figure it out now. I got a sound effect, too. Baby, I got my shit ripped. Put some staples in it. Some staples is great. I got a sound effect. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. Okay.

Damn, man. Another day. You, still on. Damn, man. It's another day. Another day. Another day. You gotta pay your taxes, man. Awesome. Y'all see how the crew feels about me? You gotta pay your taxes, baby. Nah, you don't call Paulo after the show.

You gotta talk to Paulo. Gotta call and talk to him. He a human. Hey, Paulo, how you doing this weekend, man? He's a human. Good, good, human. You got Disneyland? You got the butter above.

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Can any team stop the Celtics when they're at full strength? I like them jerseys. Dang them hard. That shit's hard. This hard this is nice yeah I like them yeah this is my best thing to come out of both a brown I need that one that is nice I'm not gonna lie that's a nice color way the New York knickerbockers have won five of their last six games including a blowout in Denver Monday night but with the Nuggets doing too much partying in L.A. And 12 made his return to the Grizzlies

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You know, we got a lot of basketball to talk about, but we got to address some situations. Still going on in the music game. Yesterday, we talked about Kendrick's new album, G&X. Kenyon was not a fan of it. Kenyon, he was... Cool as life. He didn't like the LA's back,

even though he's now a Los Angelino. Damn, I can't believe it. He said he hadn't listened to it yet. He heard snippets. You listen to it? That is your cousin.

Okay. Show some love to your family. You know how... I bought it, too. You know, you got to buy it in the iTunes part, not just download it. Oh, okay. You got to do something. F buy it in the iTunes part not just download it. Oh, okay

You got your facts so support about that part. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so we thought about Kendrick yesterday though But today we're talking about Kendrick's nemesis Drake Taking their rap beat to the court system So that's right Drake is reportedly suing Universal Music Group and Spotify legend they use what? This is not real. This is true. Alleged they used Payola and Scheme to manipulate and saturate the streaming services

and airwaves by launching bots and other methods to pump up Kendrick's diss song, Not Like Us. Of course, produced by Mustard! Hey! Song was aimed at Drake.

UMG has denied the allegations and Spotify has declined to comment. Today it was announced that Drake filed a second action against UMG, accusing the music giant of defamation and claiming it could have halted the release of a song, falsely accusing him of being a sex offender. It should also be noted that Drake has spent his entire career under UMG and has one album left under his current deal, which means he's up for a new deal in the near future. I think he feels like he's kind of getting done like Kaminga's getting done by the Warriors.

You know, you got that new deal coming, we go. You look dirty. Ah, that makes sense. But what's your reaction to Drake filing a lawsuit that alleges that his label helped pump up the success? His label? Kendrick and Drake, same label. I was confused at first because I didn't know this was a thing.

So I listened to the Rory and Maude podcast, their music. So I knew that they were going to break it down a little bit. To summarize what they were breaking down, basically they were saying that there were instances where people were telling Siri, I want to listen to Drake, and they would play Not Like Us instead. Siri said, no, you don't. Yeah, Siri would be like, no, you don't want to listen to Drake, you want to listen to Kendrick Lamar.

And, like, that was part of the lawsuit, but then that they were going a layer deeper because they were saying, like, well, what if someone else wants to listen to, like, it's not Drake, what if they want to listen to their favorite artist, but they're diverting them to Kendrick Lamar? You said your favorite artist is Kendrick Lamar.

Yeah, so, yeah. People are going to be like, oh, Drake, well, he's a baby. But, like, it's probably affecting other artists, too. But you know what happened? You know what happened with that? Just take your L. That wasn't real? Yeah, just take your L.

Like, that wasn't... It was a fake. Yeah, it was the dude that actually posted that said that it wasn't completely true about the whole system. So Drake using that as a piece of his lawsuit is not going to fare well. Because the person that brung it to his attention left out a lot of information. So now Drake is behind the ball because he has to make it about UMG. He has to make it about corporate. He can to make it about UMG. He has to make it about corporate.

He can't make it about Kendrick. He can't. Yeah, it's about, yeah, it's not about Kendrick. You talk about bot streaming, you talk about, that's been around for so long. If anybody knows anything about bot streaming, go to Vice and watch Black Market with Michael Williams from The Wire. Before he died, he exposed the bot streaming service and the bot farms. So this shit been happening for years.

Wait, so you think, but ultimately you think this could be a good thing for the music industry as a whole because it's going to kind of pull the curtain back from what's going on? No, it has nothing to do with the music industry or correcting it. It has everything to distract us from the burial service of Mr. Yeah. Yeah, like, because this is distraction. Nothing's going to come of it is going to change for the actual artist. Kanye already fought for that.

Kanye fought for that to get out his Adidas deal, let people know, blah, blah, blah, that's Adidas. But then he looking at his title deal and all these other things. People, they've been sitting around waiting for this type of stuff to happen. So they're also about people saying that they wanted to hear Certified Lover Boy, which was the name of a Drake album, but they were saying you're not like us because that was a lyric in the song. It's a voice recognition thing.

Well, seriously, listen. It's the reason he don't go after Kendrick right now because he don't have to. See, he's suing for defamation of character. What I said he was going to sue for, you're calling him a pedophile. Certified. You have to prove it. That is a claim. You have to prove that or it is defamation.

This is not hearsay. This is not opinion. If he said, I heard, makes sense. So what happens is you sit back and he's saying that my label helped. This message gets pushed out in the airwaves. So all he's going to do is you sue the labels. They're going to settle.

Then you can settle with Kendrick later. See, I don't need to sue Kendrick right now. There's someone bigger than him. You can't sue me at all. I can sue you. You're the one. You can't sue me at all. You're the one who just called.

You said I beat my wife. Did you sue me? No. Okay can sue you. You the one who can. You can't sue me at all. You the one who just called. You said I beat my wife. Did you sue me? No. Okay. So we don't have to work? Real niggas don't do that. I don't, this ain't... We're waiving that one. We don't do that.

We're waiving that one. No. We're waiving that one. Don't do that. That's what Pete... But what I'm saying, he did this to me. They don't do that. What did he say? He said, you want to make it personal?

Cool. But that's something you don't want to. What did he say? He said, you want to make it personal? Cool. That's something you don't want to do. Cool. Cool. That doesn't, what did he say? We don't want to hear you saying it no more. I get what you're saying.

I get it. You started it. It don't matter. You started it. Cool, but I. So now don't cry. It don't matter. Don't cry in the car. That's because my lie was bigger than yours.

Okay, but that's. My lie is bigger than yours. Cool, but I'm. Why are you mad? It doesn't. I't cry in the car. That's my life bigger than yours. Okay, but that's my lies bigger than yours Oh, but why are you mad? It doesn't I'm suing you what you lie. It don't matter. Yeah, do sue me back I can see don't sue me at all. It don't matter What he did he did it I want to squabble, okay, but this is not real. You're not living in reality You said this it affected me wink wink wink I'm suing you if you have a claim against me when I get my money sue me back Yeah, I give you have your money back you punch me Uh-huh, and then I get up and I beat your ass you can't do that

And then you go to the cops and say man he beat my ass. I say well he hit me first And who that ain't got nothing no merit to that. No you punch me, he beat my ass. I say, well, he hit me first. That ain't got no merit to that? No. You punched me, I beat your ass, and you go tell the cops that I beat your ass. Well, because he could have went to the police first, but he chose to beat us. Everybody was popping up on memes with little girls

and videos and shit. See, you're using real words. So in reality, what you just said is this. If I hit you, right, you beat my ass. You're going to jail. Or I go home. No, you're going to jail. No, I go home.

Because I'm suing you. No, because you take that ass whooping and you go to the gym. See, but you're telling me what I should do. I'm telling you what I'm doing. No, I'm telling you what the culture wants you to do. I don't care what the culture wants. The culture wants you to shut up and take this ass whooping. Okay, but I'm not.

This is your third ass whip you done took. But I'm not. Yeah, because now you got to call the cops. What's that mean? What's that mean? That's called free will. Free will. But I'm telling you what I'm doing.

Free will. Do what you want. A response has to match the action. He's over there. So if I hit you once, legally, you're allowed to hit me once. You can't beat my ass. OK, so my not like us wasn't a one hit? Was that not a knockout?

Is that cool? What? Should he have just came with not like us and not even made that other song? Euphoria? When he claimed he had another kid and he did all that. Oh, that was Meet the Grimms? Yeah.

Should he have done that? Should he have even done that? Yes, because he's sad and euphoria. Don't do this. Don't make me do this to you, boy. But it don't matter. Six straight minutes. Six straight minutes of saying.

Is any of that true, though? Do we got to know? No, that's the problem. That's what I'm saying. Should he even make that problem? You have to prove that. He should have just hang with not like that. He should have just said, I heard.

If he would have did everything else. Kendrick did say that, Gil. He said, I heard you like him young. And then he certified, da, da, da. That's what I'm saying. He just made that. He said, meet the Graham. This is what I heard.

I'm merely reporting from an anonymous source. It's a part of my ass. All of these things. He was checking Instagram. All that. All that. It's a part of my ass. Supp. All of these things. People checking Instagram. All that. All that. It's a part of my ass whooping. Supposedly with young girls.

That's different. And just like part of it. That's different. It ain't different. It's a part of it. What is not different? He's saying it's different because of the severity of it. The level that Kendrick went to embarrass somebody.

Like, you want to go to war? But you're not. You're not that factual no it don't matter it does matter in war like if i throw a decoy no you can't if i throw a decoy and it and you're like ah you're running but then you run into the real bomb over here i get listen i get the theory but This is legal now. When you're talking like what you're saying is for the

culture yet, but legally this is legal terms now. He has a lawsuit. And if Kendrick wants a lawsuit he has a lawsuit for saying I'm a wife beater. If that is not on record if that is not a law, if that's not a paper trail where they called the cops or any of that then he has a lawsuit against him

They went to the point where they both have lost has the right to do that and y'all If he said yeah, you were dead beat that that's opinion That's an opinion based out. I don't think he's so Kendrick. I think No, what I think he popped out when I'm legally this is what who can what I'm over what I'm doing is I'm suing the bigger more you got because I could win two three four hundred million from them Okay, right now beer one size long once I win that you don't need to make another song once But once I win that is automatically a win he do this is where it make another fool. But once I win that, Kendrick is automatically a win. He do, he do need to make another song. This is where it gets nasty.

It gets nasty. He needs to make another song. I'm talking about legal terms. I don't give a fuck about the opinion of what should happen. How long has this been going on? What? This beef. For a while.

How, what's a while? 10 years? Years? No, no, no, recently. Since like that. Since the future. A year? Eight months?

Eight months, six months? A future album, what was that? Since the future. A year? Eight months? A future album. What was that? Six months maybe? So why are you doing this now? Why didn't you do this when it dropped? Let that money come back. Well, these things... I mean, he didn't wake up today and be like, I'm doing this.

They probably been in place. He woke up and he's like, this is enough. Enough is enough. Is it a good time? That's like this is enough enough is enough You everything is calculated already happy holiday, so you can say What I'm saying is from a business stamp, and if you know you're gonna sue then you're gonna let you have to let it play out Yeah, you guys I need to show that I'm a man. I need to show that I lost three four hundred million This is what's happening. He want to drop an album. He wants to drop an album, but he can't. You know why?

Because everybody's going to hit that dislike button. Cool! And you know what happens if they do that? Drake doesn't have a fan base that's visible anymore. So what happens? So what happens? So what happens? If you put something out without this thing saying,

oh, you pay for these bots and you da-da-da-da-da, if you don't clear that up and you drop an album and it only goes $60,000. That's what I, if I'm Drake, that's what I want. No, not for your resume. Not for your reputation. Don't nobody care. No one cares about what's going on. No one cares about that shit.

You did a lawsuit about Not Like Us like us bro the biggest record in rap history You did a whole lawsuit on that record. That's crazy Understand from a legal standpoint if I drop an album right now and it don't do no sales The time of Drake never does and the Drake team you're sitting there like because my lawsuit is these lies affected my music that is the point of it

you sound like Devin Haney against Ron Garcia you still got you're not realizing you're using public I'm talking to fuck the public opinion. This is court. This is court right now But I need to prove what this song fucked me up, but once you Won 500 million I don't give a fuck what I go disappear right I disappear. So why don't you just disappear now? I can win $500. You can disappear without the $500.

That's your feeling. You got to show that they was doing their stuff. It doesn't mean anything. All you're going to do is collect the bag. Did you see that they said they disappeared? The worst thing for Drake is the dropout album. That's illegal. They've been doing it.

The dropout album and the shit blows up. I don't want that part of my life. How do I prove that I'm affected by it? I need to show that I'm affected. I need to show I lost hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. He dropped like four, five, something. And they did bad.

That's why he probably dropped them. So that's what the lawsuit is. The lawsuit is, these claims affected my business. See, I was making $400 million a year. Since this claim, I'm only made 25 so him He's probably not working. He's probably putting out bullshit just to show that he's affected by it So the lawsuit to the companies he's gonna be so I guarantee you that motherfucker won't be under four five hundred million

So that law is gonna be about four hundred five to a billion of what he lost. And when you should talk about that? I said it was going to get sued. Do we insult people on our show? Huh? Do we insult people on our show? Well, yes. Do we defame characters sometimes? No, not defame.

No, not according to the legal definition. It's not legal. If you say a motherfucker suck, a motherfucker suck. If you say he suck, he suck. That's our opinion. Your expert opinions. All the diddy shit and all that. That's all. But that's... Now, he suck he suck letters. That's our opinion or your expert opinions all the diddy shit and all that That's all that's

Now why get he's gonna sue he got to everybody right? No, no, no The suit the suit was one everybody but guilt arena No, if he did if he didn't mess with kids the people who put that out those are you gonna go after Rashad? That's why we stuff. Yeah legal disclaimers, we say allegedly all the time. You got to say allegedly. But if you say somebody's trying... Allegedly, um... I heard.

You got to be... You can't... You don't think Kendrick is that smart to know what allegedly means in a record? You don't think he purposely... He said certified. Exactly. Certified means stamp it. It's in the document. It's in the document. It's in the document.

The only thing is, like, you said that this stuff has been going on for forever, and the only thing I will say is, like, an artist like Drake that it's affecting now, he's bringing it to the forefront, but he's probably...

Benefited. Yeah, exactly. He's benefited from this system. Years. Years. So it sucks that... Like a lot of artists have. Yeah, so it sucks that everyone

has kind of just been like, acting like it's not happening until the direction of the fact that. I live in the Valley, right? I'm a Valley boy, right? But, shit. So that means I know the legal terms of everything. Yeah, San Fernando Valley.

Like, y'all looking at me like I'm such a, he the one telling? I'm just telling you what's going to happen. I know what's going to happen. Drake need to, huh? You're going to retract that? Drake need to just. Protected by artistic expression. Period. No, no, that's not. That doesn't. I know what's going to happen. You're going to retract that? You're going to retract that? You're going to retract that? Period.

No, that's not. That doesn't. You can claim that this is a parody because you have to. Absolutely. No, you can't. It's a joke. You can't. No, you can't. You can't use it in that fashion.

But they're both public figures, though. No, no, because you're saying it in real terms as if you are the person. Like, if I say you're a bad mother, right, that's my opinion, right? I can say you like if i say you a bad mother right that's my opinion right i can say you did something that's a bad mother to me if i say you have an std and you say i never had one i can prove i didn't i can show you my medical records i can do this now i have to prove what i said is a true thing if i can't you beat me for defamation. Bro, that just sounds crazy because that means that every rapper from the beginning of time has to prove his lyrics are true.

Which one? Say one. Any of them. No, say one. I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. I don't... That ain't defamation. Bad boy. That's not defamation.

What do you mean? That's not defamation. I'm not talking about... I'm talking about something that we don't know is true or false. But that's not defamation though. What do you mean? That's not definition. I'm not talking about something that we don't know is true or false. But that's not definition. It is definition.

If you would have said I fucked your bitch and she got an STD from what he did. I fucked your wife. No, that's why I fucked your wife. Wife. How do you prove that I didn't? That's the point that I'm making. Think about what I'm saying.

No. That's the point that I'm making. No. How do you? I said that to you, and you want to sue me. How do you prove I didn't? Who am I? Who. Think about what I'm saying. No. That's the point that I'm making. No. How do you... I said that to you and you want to sue me. How do you prove I didn't? Who am I? Who are you?

You are the person. I'm Pop. You're Biggie. I'm Biggie. And I said those lines to you. How do you prove I didn't? That you didn't. Because you're suing me for it.

How do you prove I didn't? I don't know where this convo is going, but... I don't know where it is either. How do I prove that you didn't? I didn't. I didn't. As he say, she say. As he say, she say. Yeah. He say it. You have no paperwork to prove that I didn't know where it is either. How do I prove that you did? I did. I did. I said my wife. Is he safe? Is he safe? She say.

He says you have no paperwork to prove that I didn't do it. It's off of your word. It's her. She's going to say, no, I didn't. I must say yes. Yes, you did. But if I have evidence in the actual studio, people was there seeing it. I don't know. I don't know evidence. That means you don't know. But what I'm saying is, no, you don't know.

Pac made the claims. Yeah. And then in my studio, but there were people in the studio when she was there to Cooperate I guess he was there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we was out of the car But you're trying to see my wife what I'm saying. You're trying to sue me for my words You gotta prove it first. I have enough to know that y'all was in Then it wouldn't be a problem But that's what I'm saying when I'm coming from the POC perspective

I guess that's not the big like no no no no if I said like if I said you know You are a wife beater right? Mm-hmm. This happened to Robert Downey jr. Mm-hmm, right and they made a claim and They say oh you're a wife beater. I Have to you say well, I've never beat my wife. I'm not in jail for that I'm suing you for I now have to prove that happened, well, I've never beat my wife. I'm not in jail for that. I'm suing you for it. I now have to prove that happened. If there was no police, you could possibly be.

But if there was no legal forms, no nothing, I lose. It's going to go bad for him. It's bad. Look at the lyrics. None of the lyrics are bad. I can tell you. I've won three of them. Look at the lyrics. Look at the lyrics. None of the lyrics are bad. I can tell you. I've won three of them.

I've won three. It went bad. That's a little part of the lawsuit. A lot of people was calling him a pedophile. But the lawsuit is deeper than that. I can insinuate something and not make it factual. But that's... Hold on. I can tell you right now.

It just came, but not like a... Okay, so I hear you like him young. No defamation. I hear So he's clear there the ground going below that I'm all the dudes that hang server five lover boy saying he's kind of get he can't prove that Certified pedophile that might be the problem. It ain't the one yeah because Yeah, but I mean you know even if even if it wasn't album could be him saying it could be a question mark right there but he did a

question mark no certified lover boy question mark certified pedophile that that little line right that's a question mark certified lover boy he said that he's saying which one are you so gone? No, he said more than a mr. Graham Lover boy certified pedal you're basically saying you you're stamping 100% is true. The first part of this I hear That's the double on time. I heard I'm the third option. That's a double entendre you mean that sounds great. I heard. I'm the third option. That's the double entendre you're missing. That sounds great. That doesn't sound great to this white judge. Yeah, it does. How we know the judge white, Gil? It's multiple meanings to one theme.

If you're Drake, you're getting the white judge, dog. Yeah, okay. That's fair. He's doubling down from another song. He was. That's what I'm saying. He was. I'm getting dropped.

Hold on. I lean on you, nigga. You can't sue that. You're not suing Kendrick. You're not suing Kendrick. Okay. That's washed. Kendrick, you can't rap.

It don't matter. Two, three, not so in Kendrick. Oh, okay. That's why It don't matter No, no, I like that feeling the first verse no not that one I'm there was one more he said it towards the end of pox in sweet chin music won't boo boo boo anyone two three four five Yes, nigga. No, nope. Rody. I said Where did he say? one, two, three, four, five, freak ass nigga, nope. Nope. Roll the ass up like a. Where did he say? You talking about the friends?

No. Damn, Drake, I heard you like him. OK, hold on. Never go to sell blocks. And your homeboys need to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just make sure you hide your little sister, bro. And your homeboys.

And I speak on Serena. And your homeboys need to be. Legally safe amount, allegedly. Predator moving flocks. Yep So he's saying he got somebody in his camp. That's got a questionable He used his research to be able to pinpoint all the shit he's saying to be accurate inside of what he's saying Can't get me when I'm saying I know No, y'all didn't deserve him. This is gonna be interesting So we in your homeboy needs to show that that predator moving flocks so that can be anyone. Yep. Okay, he's fine there

That name got to be registered and placed on neighborhood Okay, so maybe he will ever so so the only the only lot the only line is certified. That's the only line Shit you're gonna make over only line. It's not this song. But I feel like he could still win the other parts of it. How much shit you going to make over that line? It's not this song. He could still win the other parts of the song. No, he's suing for that song. Because of the line in it, and he's saying that my company helped push this narrative. Yeah.

So I'm suing them for helping push this narrative. At a discount, which is illegal. He doubled down for Meet the Grounds when he called him a pedophile and said he had another kid. But having another kid, that's... What is defamation about having another kid? It's a lie.

It's a lie. And he named the daughter and all kinds of shit. I thought it. Yeah, I thought it. It wasn't. My bad. But I'm saying he's doubling down from that song. It don't matter what he's tripling down from. He's suing for this song. So we asked the chat, is Drake right to sue over Not Like Us?

I thought he was suing for Not Like Us. Don't say it out loud. 76% said no. But now let's move on to some basketball, Tyler. Remember, I sued three times defamation. I won all three. So I know. I know.

I know how it works. You have to. We didn't even have to ask them. But I don't think you don't have to. As a society. You know what I know how it works. We didn't even have to ask them. But I don't think you don't have to sue Kendrick. As a society. No, what I'm saying is you don't have to sue Kendrick. Once he gets to win against the company, it's automatic if he decides to.

They loved him last week. But that's what I'm saying. If you sue Kendrick, you... I love both of them. You sue the company. Get your money, get your money. Well, let's move on to some basketball discussion. Kendrick you yeah, I love Well, let's let's move on to some bad discussion The defending champs got a bit stronger last night as the unicorn Kristaps Porzingis rejoined the team

Porzingis or ting is pingas as he's known in some circles miss the first 17 games of the season while recovering from leg surgery. He knocked off the rust quickly, scoring 16 points, a 6 for 12 shooting, and a 32-point route of the Clippers. And in true Celtics fashion, he went 5 for 6 on his two-pointers and 1 for 6 on threes. He also anchored a Celtics defense that finished with a season-high 11 blocks as a team. Peyton Pritchard had 20 points off the bench in his quest for six man of the year and Jason Tatum had a light 20 Points on summer 15 shooting in 30 minutes of action The Celtics tied an NBA record hitting 12 threes in the second quarter while putting up 51 points in that quarters Clippers scored 49 in the entire first half and bought it bought to finish the game 22 for 51 from deep in the game He rabbit 551 from deep in the game

I don't like crime there we have Let's take it back to the laughing unicorn for a second what changes for the Celtics with poor Zingas out there Everything the space the floor just got wider. Yeah. The spacing just got wider. Defense got better. They got taller. They got more. More lobs.

More threes. More threes. Why are you looking at me like that? You already know what that makes them do. I'm just asking you. It's like us getting back Superman or somebody. Like, come on, man. We don't need to hype them up no more.

Yes, we do. Can we find an angle to head on this? Yes, we do. Damn, dog. Is there an agenda or narrative that we can... You know what I mean? They number one, and then they get their third best player back. Now there's...

How good they going to be now? We know this. Fuck them. They going to what? They going to run off 20 and bowl? Shit. Fuck them, man.. We know this. Fuck them. They're gonna run off 20 and bowl? Shit. Fuck them, man. One would hope not. Fuck them.

One would hope not. We say anything bad, we negative. It's wrong. We lost. We already won. We expect them to go 10, 15 in a row. Allegedly. We saying allegedly.

We're not getting defamed by the Celtics. Okay. Lexi, Celtics are your squad. Mm-hmm. You're very cheesy. I see that. I know. I mean, shit, we see what happened in the first half. We've been in, Celtics are your squad. Mm-hmm.

You're very cheesy. I see that. I know. I mean, we see what happened in the first half. The Clippers only took 12 threes in the first half. Did you see that? You think they've been listening to you? Is that more or less?

Less. They took 12 total in the first half. Celtics made 12 threes in the second quarter. They made 12 in the first half. They shot 51. 51 in the first half. In the game. They were 22-51 for the game. The Clippers shot 12rees in the second quarter. They made 12 in the first half. They shot 51. 51 in the first half? In the game. They were 22-51 for the game. The Celtics shot 12 total in the first half.

And the Celtics made 12 in the second quarter. Made 12. Made 12 threes in the second quarter. Made 12 in the second quarter. They were having a field day. Wow. And they went cold in the second half. They had 78 in the first half,

and I think they had 45 points in the second half. It was like 48. Bad basketball. That's fast coaching, man. I know there's nothing on Joe, but it's just the formula that everyone's watching. We watching this shit like shoot a bunch of threes, hit or miss, make or break. We're going to live or die by this. That's how they won. So, but that ain't on us to copy.

Exactly. That's the problem. I think people are missing that point that we was making. Obviously, it works for the Celtics because they have the people in place for it to work. It's everybody else who's trying to copy it. That looks horrible. Look at these scores. It looks bad.

We're in 2024. They're in 40, 53s a game. I think close to 51 a game. And there's teams that have scores like this. 95 to 84. 100 to 102. 110 to 114. 94 to 126. 98 to 123.

Like, the way they shoot threes, they should be 145 to 118. That should be every score on how they're shooting the ball. That's 35% from the three. 35, 33, you're hitting. You're hitting. Nick scored 145 points

yesterday, 36 threes. 36 threes. Not 50 fucking ones. 36 threes. Not 50 fucking ones. 36 threes, 145. How many twos? Celtics shot 51 threes, had 78 at halftime, and had 126 points. How many possessions was that?

It happens. They had 92 possessions. It was up by like 20-something. Knicks took 92 shots, 36 home threes. 92 shots. Hey, I like that balance. That's a nice balance. It's a balance. Nicks took 92 shots. 36 on the three. 92 shots. Hey, I like that balance. That's a nice balance. It's a balance.

Celtics shot 88 shots. 51 threes. Woo. 51 threes. That's a lot of shots. But look, they went. Oh, so the Celtics shot less

but more threes and half. Oh, wow. 20 less points. But Clippers didn't barely shot any threes. But remember,

they was up by 30. For whatever reason. They don't have 30s. But remember, they was up by 30. For whatever reason. They don't have three-point shoots. The substance is up by 30, so when you're up by 30, you take your stars out. But that's the thing. That's the thing I was talking about. If you don't try to compete with them at the three-point line,

even on bad shooting nights, you're still going to lose. No, you're not. Because these teams are going to take all these damn . Unless they get all them. Mathematically, it says if you're shooting 60-something They're going to take all these damn things. The algorithm. Unless they get all the overrides. Mathematically, it says if you're shooting 60-something from the mid-range, I mean, from the two, you will blow them out.

Yeah. 60% from the two? You're blowing them out. 55, 50, fucking 50% from the two. You're beating the fuck out of these. Think about the team stats, too. That's what the Warriors do. When we go into the locker room halftime, we look at team field goal percentage. They're shooting above 50%.

We're trash on defense right now. They got to be shooting 35%, 38%. And we know we're playing defense. But if you're averaging 49%, 48%, 50% from the field every game, man, that shit is nasty work. Yeah. Nasty work. Field goal percentages are high.

Shit, trailblazers. Man, you can't even work. Yeah, the nasty work. The triple percentages are high. Yeah. Shit, trailblazers. Man, you can't even put them in it, man. No, but look. But because they shoot so much, just, they shot 102. They only made 34 shots, right? That's nasty. They shot 46 threes, made eight.

Oh, my God. That's what I said. Chauncey Billups is over there? There was a point, and let's just think real sports, real basketball. At what point do you say, hey, man, stop shooting these threes? Yeah. Like, you're sitting here three for 35. Like, three for 10, you're like, hey, don't shoot the next one like that.

For sure. Right? That's three for 10. Three for 10. I'm like, yo, relax. Go to the hole. Let's get to the hole. To the rim.

To the rim now. How are you three for damn near 33 at one point? Like, that's 23s that just went by. Nobody on the team said, yo, stop shooting that shit. Man. Bro, you're tripping. I didn't even go all the way. Shooting that little shit.

I just saw my timeouts. The Blazers are tanking. Timeout. Ain't the Blazers tanking? Timeout. I don't give a fuck what they tank. You might as well just shoot the bitch from half court. For sure.

Just lamella balling in high school at this point. Who's on the Blazers that shoots? Besides them, who's on the Blazers that can really shoot? Nobody. That's why. So what? They shooting at me? That's so if you let them shoot, that's on the Blazers that can really shoot? Nobody! That's why it's a one-thing shooting. So if you let them shoot, that's telling you they're tanking. Look at these sorry motherfuckers. They're tanking.

They're just shooting shots. What is that? Hold on, hold on. They're tanking. That's not good. Nobody. Who is number 33? If you look at the percentage, and it's like 9 for 40, every player has just made 1 for 3.

Jeremy Grant, 0 for 3? That's bad. Jeremy Grant had a three-point shooter like that? It's like nine players on the team all make one three. That's not good. He's a good asset for a team. He's a good asset. He's not a great three-point shooter, but he took three of them.

Because he's out there. Yeah, he's out there. That's the thing. I like that. He's out there. When you out there, like you said, Derek White yesterday, nine threes, a game. Yeah. When you out there, like you said, Derek White yesterday, nine threes, a game. Yeah.

When you're out there and I'm get that bitch and I'm like, coach said it's cool. Yeah. Every time I get it, coach say, listen, if you get the ball and you don't shoot it, you're coming out. How did you feel when Mark Mattson got to shoot all the threes? I'm serious. That's today's basketball.

Mark Mattson was with me? That's the basketball today. The Mark Mattson's to shoot all the threes. I'll say this. That's today's basketball. Mark Madsen was on it? That's the basketball today. The Mark Madsen's getting to shoot 10 threes. Do the play up for him and everything. Mad Dog, you come off this. Mad Dog. You remember that game? He ain't going to tell, but I can't keep him shooting threes.

What? He shot four. Reggie Evans taking about five a game. Yeah. No way. That's this era. No, no, no. Not Reggie Evans. Yes. Hey, they Yeah, no way that's the best this era Practice practice in the Today in the NBA They taking dope. Which one of you? They taking dope. No, you taking dope. No, they taking dope. They shooting. Give me a call and say, Reggie Evans, shoot a three.

Steven Adams is shooting threes now. He was out there shooting threes. What you think of Power Forward? Like, they think that I got to the NBA. They never shot a three in college. They never shot a three in high school. The dude that be fouling everybody. That's fouling.

Oh, Zia Stewart. Yeah, he shot threes. Yeah. He shot threes when we was in Seattle. We was in Seattle at the program. Let me see how many threes he shot. That's why them teams is losing, though. They're tanking, bro.

He big as fuck. Yeah. Be respectful. I ain't gonna lie. Last year, he shot almost four games. I ain't kidding, though. He's really shooting this year, though. That's a big bug.

0.7. So, damn. 2023, he shot four games in 3.8. Stewart shot four threes a game? Nah. He shot 175 last year, 200 the year before. He shot 38%. But 38%, though.

Hey, that's close to 40. 38%. If he's shooting, you got it, big dog. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go good. 38%. I know. That's what I'm saying. But because they're shooting 38%, it's like, you got it, big dog. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go for it. 38%, I bet. I know. That's what I'm saying.

But because they're shooting 38%, it's like, keep going. Yeah. That's it. But this is my thing. It's like... They didn't shoot this in high school. Nope. They didn't shoot in college. They get into the NBA, and then you're becoming a three-point shooter in two, three months?

What I like... You know what I mean? That'd be the problem. I like, you know what I mean? That'd be the problem. I like the pump fake Prince Mazinger's dead and dunk that motherfucker. On Zubat? Yeah. Well, see,

that's my problem with guys like Zubat trying to come out there and guard that. It's like, yo, you ain't never closed out before? No.

No, I haven't. You haven't. You never have to close That's not your job. Fucking crazy. They don't teach you that. Let me show you. It's the give and take because they're not getting closed out on.

And that's why I think LeBron can play forever. That's why LeBron can play forever. I would not shoot that wide open shot. But think about it. What kind of closed out am I giving you if I know you're a shooter compared to you not being a shooter? That too. Like, are you really closed out?

Where is the intelligence? No, but at the end of the day, everybody's a shooter, and everybody's not a shot maker. Right. You shoot all you want. Like, even though Russell made shots yesterday, he's sitting there shooting a three

as a defensive player. Yeah, we'll live with that. We'll live with that. We'll live with that. I mean, you went three for five or four for six. Cool. I don't care. But, Lexi, as you pointed out, this seems like a formula that works great for the Boston Celtics. They were defending champions last year.

Yeah. They shooting close to ten more threes per game this season. But you got to stop it. I need a ten-day, bro. Everybody can't do it. I need a ten-day. I mean, you're averaging 28. You're averaging 25 a game. You see that?

It's not random, though. Like, they practice. It's a system. It's the way you track the ball down and get rebounds and possessions, save possessions. What you think about... And then you bring Payton off the bench. Like, no one is stopping him from shooting threes. At all.

Like, he's getting 8 to 10 up a game, and he's not doing anything else. You know he's coming in to shoot threes at all like getting eight to ten up a game that's and he's not doing anything how are you like oh he's coming in to shoot three we did Richard I don't mean to be racist here but we did but Ziggins when did white basketball players get ten shots up from their creativity yeah you know how hard off the bed a lot right you ain't getting no open shot? Do your own thing. What? You better have this on the river. Hey, Jason Williams, you better be Jason.

There's no way. There's no way. These are foreigners. He's not foreign. Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves. I said that, though. Austin Reeves is like...

Let's have a secret. He's not foreign. I'm talking about them Cal Corver. Brother, ain't no damn way. You better run me around first. You not just come in and just go at me. That era is done. Everybody watch YouTube highlights.

Because everybody playing. Everybody switching on. Now the big... Listen, if you switch on to the five, man, you can get your shot on. Get your shot off. We sitting here like, because I can't dribble that good. Come on. Come set a script

That's what it look Let me get him off I'm going to the basket not God wish I got this do a pick and roll and Shaq and them got to switch out every time. Oh, my God. You're making motherfuckers fall all over the place. Come here. Nay, nay, bring your ass down here. Come on out here.

Dirk, come on out here. Put your slow ass. The era's different. I know, I know. The five and four used to be... Even the five on the island. But that's what I'm saying. Every possession.

It's not that I'm bashing it. It's just that, yo, y'all can eat so much. The way everyone is playing, all it takes is one, two dudes that just understand the concept of like 90, I mean, not 90, but like 2007, 8, 9, and use that game into this era. era meaning there's nobody back there to block like if you're if you're boston porzingis is a three-point shooter when you drive there's no one actually there to contest your jumper i mean your layup so you can sit there and go 15 for 20 every night just on layups itself that's 30 points and threes are easier too to get to your stats no but no what i'm saying is it's a harder shot because everybody's sitting on

the line if i decide to just go to the layup who's back there actually contesting the jumper for me to shoot 42 exactly nobody so think it just becomes a one-on-one game with him so i can just go because i know where my teammates are. Yep. You talking about drive to the hole? Big man. No big man. Your big man is out there. Big man is, see, so, like, think about it. Big man is guarding. Big man is sitting. No, he's sitting at the wings.

Hell man is my shooting guard and my point guard guy. So that means Derek White and Drew Holiday guy is the back line on the defense They're not taking charges no more. He said he said 2007 right like to do you take that to tell 2007-2008 who was playing right then that's playing right now Ron Raymond now listen I'm not being critical. I mean I'm not being critical right here. I'm being... I'm gonna open up the honesty. No defamation. No defamation, Rashad.

Bron, this is how I feel about what you just said about 25 a game, I can get a 10-day. Put me out there. I said Bron is a place for that. Bron is the 2007 version of a 2020, 2024 environment. I can do whatever I want. Because there ain't no back line. You couldn't do shit with me in 2007 with them big motherfuckers back there. don't go on him. So now I know I only had to jump that high no more I just got a body you get close enough and I could just get right here in the sap. It's a poor man guard

It's a poor man Kevin Durant too, but there's a reason that When he like he's like if he was playing if he this age right, if he was playing, if he, this age right now, and he was playing in the early 2000s, he was done, he'd be done. He'd be done. Because the lane is so compact where you are forced to shoot jumpers.

Yeah, yeah. Right? You can't get in, but because everything is so spread, he's sitting there just walking through. Yeah, he know what to do. Pop, pop, pop. Like, he got point guards sitting there trying to block him.

Man. You're not getting your shot blocked? At all. When's the last time he got blocked? I don't know. Last time I see somebody smack LeBron. Get that shit out of here. The scores are also 80 to goddamn 85.

Who want to do that? Like, we playing against Detroit Pistons now? Come on, man. You scoring 80s? Oh, no, no. That game, they ain't had nobody there. That's when my mom had, like, it's not like there's a Detroit Pistons system out there

where they sitting there locking down you sitting there having trouble. Like, it wasn't, we couldn't even get shots up against them. Bro, tough. That's what I'm saying, but that's why it's different. They want more action. They want more action. Huh? They want more points. So how are you scoring

85 and 84? They didn't have no, but they had like eight people playing. I don't give a fuck who played. Melo had 44 and a motherfucker 84. That's what I'm saying. And the other, and... That's nasty. And Miller had 20.

Well... That's even worse. That's what I'm saying. You know why? You know why? Did you see that box score of that Hornets game? Because the sorry players that's not playing, that's getting open shots on his game? Because the sorry player that's not playing, that's getting open shots is just chucking them.

The sorry player that's not playing. That is Melo, Miller, and that's it. We want these two-way people and these young people. Has Bridges been playing? We will hunt him down. They went seven for 32. Melo had 30 shots. Miller had like 18.

30 shots? And then the next highest person after Miller had like seven shots. That makes sense. Listen. That makes sense. I want my star player. This is. Oh, he was 17 for 30. That's great. That's great. That's great. I'm shooting 21 shots in my era and y'all are getting more possession. Then I want my star player to shoot 30. Yeah. I don't want my role player shooting 15. Bridges took 16 shots last night. Bridges is wet. Yeah, they got a three they still are everybody else one for seven Oh for four for the three one for four. Oh for four from the three No more vets in the league like no, it's all young

Listen, I don't give fuck what what the league want as a teammate. But that's what you need though. You need somebody to talk to him in the locker room. As a teammate. You can't always be the coach. You know these players can't shoot. Why you keep passing them the ball? See, LaMelo, he look like he know his teammates can't shoot. Facts. Facts. He playing like...

Hey, Charlotte. I see you in the corner. Set the hey, I see you in the corner. Set the screen. I see you in the corner. I see you. Set the screen. Set it. Set it again.

Set it again. Set it again. Oh, he was open. I see you. He would rather do this shit right here than pass you.

It's Charlotte. Cool, cool. I don't get, there's a lot of teams that got his makeup that they, the star players

should be doing the same thing. You know what? Which one? Simon. Whoever. Everybody on Portland. Whoever the best player on Portland is, trust me, you don't got to pass this. They don't have like a mellow.

Simon's got a bucket. Whoever is the best player on the team. Jordan Poole. You, therefore, don't need to pass to nobody else. 30 shots. 30 shots a game. Jordan Poole. We're going to talk a to nobody a shot 30 shots a game Jordan Poole we're gonna talk a little I'll be looking at the lineup like hey man who y'all passing the ball

to who is getting the ball who's shooting oh you say gotta tap on names like what year how'd you make it to the NBA okay thank you that's what I'm saying why is he getting 13 shots? It's too many two-way. Why is there a two-way? They're kicking all the fans out. Because we're going what? We're going young.

Younger. You know somebody. I heard you like them young. I like them young. You know what I'm saying. I see what you mean, Joe. We've seen you. I heard that, Joe.

This is a general manager told me this. He said, how they're drafting today is they're drafting stat stuffers. So they're looking at guys that can do everything. And I said, that makes sense if you're talking about the Lucas, the Wimby's, the Shea's, right, the 36 points, 10 rebounds, those guys. But when you're talking about I'm going to draft a guy who's averaging 8, 5, and 4, no, fuck him. No, I don't want that player.

He don't do nothing for me. He's, like, his stats, his stats are good because it's needed in the game. But he's not, it's not impactful what he's doing. So I need my star or my second best player to do that. They're just getting regular people that's like 6'7", 6'9", that can give me 10 points six rebounds boxes That they feel they already had but those are but those are stars They're trying to turn those guys into star. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See that's what they're doing I'm using that's what they've been doing it after like the former Josh Giddey's I don't want that player is be good at something first

Don't be average. No everything don't be at everything. No, I need you to be good at something. Either be a great passer, a great rebounder, right, or a great scorer. Don't be the 7-7-7. Fuck off with that bullshit. But you might need it. I gotta pay you for that number.

I don't want a 7-7-7. But you need that, though. Everybody can't just go all, though. You need a corner boy. You need a road player. Everybody can't just go shoot all the shots. I need a corner boy that can do Josh Hart-type shit, right? Ain't that going to cost you more? No, but what I'm saying is Josh Hart, he will give me 30 if it's needed. He's going to watch it. He's like, okay, everybody's hitting.

I'm going to be a great rebounder today. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Josh Hart is not going to make his mind up and say I'm going to get 30. Yeah, I'm going to get 30. No, no. No. You crazy, is he? No.

You can see games when. We were just talking about parlay. I was just on Twitter. I was on Instagram. I was like, hey, Josh, you better get your parlay game. Yeah, we do care. You need to hit your numbers. Now, see, but see, I see what you're talking about, though.

See, Josh is like this. He's going to the game with a blank canvas, right? And he's like, all right, all right. Oh, my canvas is hot today. He going to feed you. He's a good basketball player. If you are horrible today, you are horrible today, he's going to be offensively minded.

He's going to turn into a scorer. Oh, I get that. Right? He cuts on his aggression. He cuts it on him. Not everybody can do that. But as far as saying I'm going to score 30. No, he doesn't come in. No, he doesn't.

No, he goes in. He's just going to play the game. I'm just going to play hard. And then see how the game is being played. So we're going to talk Knicks in one second. But for those of you out there looking for sweaters this holiday season, Gil's Arena has you covered. So take a look at our collection right here.

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What the fuck is an underdog buck? Give me real cash! Wait, say that again. Rashad might win. Rashad might win. No, no. Rashad won. Don't do that.

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I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. I'm gonna win. What is that whoever sells the most sweaters my personal sweater that I wanted for myself How did you look at my for a winner I didn't know it's all good schemes Whoever sells the most letters among the cast is five thousand underdog bucks So please support my sweater because we get five thousand. Yeah. Hey chat chat chat. Look look. I know his sweat is the best one Okay

I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'm giving you my 5,000 No, ain't nobody's buying that Imagine it. Imagine it. Imagine it. Hey, chat, chat. Imagine it. If I win, I'm giving y'all gills and shots 5,000. Oh, shit, this is it. Hey, nobody's buying that shit, man. From Gil and Shaq. Merely a host. So I'll have you know, I have a very dedicated and loyal following. I am meaning it.

Krista, you see this? My followers. Where was your goddamn... She was doing her hair. If I sell one, I'll be happy. She was doing her hair. She wasn't thinking about you, boy. She got me in the Maybach.

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Give me something. Give me something cold. Print blue or something. These will be available soon on gillsarenamerch.com. I was throwing up something. That is actually funny. I like the tough crowd one, too. Tough crowd's hard.com. I was throwing up something. That is actually fine. I like the tough crowd one too. I like the tough crowd one.

I like the tough crowd. I like Lexi's too. I don't know Lex. I don't know Lex. That's some gross shit. That's for me. But look, yours is better than Kenyon's. Damn.

Kenyon's pretty plain though. Yours is better than Kenyon's. But the color is nice though. It's pretty plain and nice. 1,000% Kenyon did not do nothing with it. Hey, man, just do it for me, guys. The group chat is about to explode right now. Which one of y'all said,

give me a great sweater? And the back is moving around. I know he's saying that's it right now. I ain't picked that sweater. Should have had Kenyan on a bike like Deebo. With a Christmas hat. If you're at home and you want to get involved with the holiday sweater movement, send your best designs to mostlyfansgil at gmail.com.

Next week, we will select the best design right here on the couch, and the winner will get the chance to see us wearing their design right here on Gil's Arena in the near future. Guys, make me one. Make me one. You have until December 1st to submit your Gil's Arena holiday sweater designs to mostlyfansgil at gmail.com. Stay tuned to see if your design is chosen next week. All right, well, Gil, you talked about the Knicks putting up 145 points. I was supposed to have a sweater.

We were watching the game last night on playback during our stream, our little watch party over there that none of y'all pulled up to, even though you were all invited. I was watching. I was watching. You were all invited. I wasn't invited. So what?

Monday we got Lakers. You won. This Monday. This Monday. Lakers. Woo. You won. This Monday. Yeah. This Monday. On Playback. On Cemetery Larry on Monday. Playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas if you want to join the fun.

But last night we watched the Knicks Nuggets and we witnessed an ass whooping as New York humbled Joker and them just days after their elder abuse on LeBron and the Lakers this weekend. Thank you, Knicks. West Coast, East Coast uniting for good. So, Knicks beat the Nuggets by a score of 145-118 in Denver. Nuggets did not hold a lead at any point after the first quarter. O.G. Ananobi was doing his thing, had a career-high 40 points on 16 for 23 from the field,

including 5 for 7 from 3 in his 38 minutes. The big bodega, Carl Anthony Towns, had 30 points and 15 boards against Yo Kitchen Company, missing just three of his 15 shots and attempting just two threes, both of which he made. So according to stat mutes, the last Knick to have at least 30 points and 15 rebounds on 80% shooting or better was Kurt Thomas back in 2002. Kurt Thomas.

And Knicks captain Jalen Brunson had 23 points on eight for 14 from the field. He added a career-high 17 assists with just two turnovers. Oh gee Nick's tied a franchise record with 45 assists in the game Nuggets fans leave it early was beautiful to see But then they ain't got Gordon though, right? But it don't matter or they know defensive player They could have played like this on Saturday's Gordon is a defensive player. Hey stop nobody So the defensive mix have now won five of their last six games currently holding the horse bottom town now

So there ain't no defensive player. That's what Gordon and better defensive player than Tam. Fuck the Nuggets. Sweet! Why y'all keep doing this like that? We just got some new cameras on Friday. Sweet jam music. Was that a statement win from the Knicks over the Nuggets last night? 145 to 118. Statement win? Yeah, I think just for morale. You know, Knicks.

You know, your team is better than your record. They're one of those teams where they're still trying to figure out their pieces. Still don't have Mitchell Robinson. I think probably after the Christmas holidays, going into the new year, you'll see them start knocking out like 10-1, 8-2 type of. They're going to be that second-half team once everything gets rolling. Sean, Nick's your current favorite team, obviously. You left every agency to join the New York contingent.

How you feeling about this Nix squad right now? Is it starting to come together? All of them shaking it. All of them shaking that. You feel me? I like the fact that the New York Nix go on the West Coast trip and play hard. In Denver. Harder than the West Coast teams.

So you see how they was playing out there? You think about when Dwight Howard was playing against Joker in the bubble, how just playing harder than him made it look nasty for him. The Yolkid stopper. OG just played hard. You look at how they play hard, catch, go.

Guard them. Slide your feet, slide your feet, help. Then you look at Denver's defense, you're like, yo, do Denver really play defense at all? And Tim said, I don't care how much we win or buy, you still gonna work today, boys. You still gonna work. I'm gonna work you. You know what I'm saying? I like what the Knicks have transitioned into.

Once they get Mitchell, they'll have a better defensive mindset because Cat ain't no anchor. So they don't really have a defense right now. But I think if they just keep playing hard, they'll be good by midseason. Did you hear what... I'm not rolling with the Knicks. Go ahead, though, brother. Go ahead. What I haven't seen is exactly...

Did y'all hear Dwight Howard's explanation on how he guarded Joker? Mm-hmm. Yes. Right? He said he watched his mannerisms. He watched that he doesn't actually like to be touched. Yeah. He wants to do all the hitting.

So he said, every time you're just standing next to me, he's doing this. Yeah, yeah. Doing that, right? He's sitting there, the whole... Hate that shit. He said, as soon as he got in the game, he's elbowing him. Boom. Boom. Just irritate him the whole time. So he said, before even get down on offense. He gets done often. He didn't already hit him

right Joker likes contact but he likes to he likes to he likes it he likes it and I think that has to be 80s approach as soon as you get in a game, you just start... Messing around. Fuck him with him. You all just got to have that mindset. Just bully. Just there.

You're just hitting on him. Like, he on D.Va, you on offense, put the ball that way. Just chop him. Chop him. Chop him. You got that mindset. Think about when somebody just hit you for no reason. AD might hurt himself doing some shit like that.

Yeah. And Dwight got that sharp-ass elbow. What vet would have taught him that? What vet would have taught AD that what vet would have taught That's maybe that cuz memory in New Orleans with nobody here, but he had but he had a Dwight with him Yeah, the white and blue yet the white and boogie with him. I know the white Patrick Ewing do I have in LA? When they won the hardest

He didn't had it. He didn't But a lot of big man, like, you know how it is when you're sitting there just watching and someone's just hitting like, now, watch out. Yeah, look, all right. You be like, oh, man. You look at him like, damn.

I hate people touching me. Hey, man, ref. Come on, man, like, goddamn. It ain't that serious. Come on, man. Relax, bro. You're touching me, man. Come on, man.

Damn, at 24? You start saying shit like that. It ain't that serious, man. As soon as they do it, like, come on, bro. What you bro. No, no, you know, I gotta play They've been on your shoes But that's the Knicks though, that's the name For me, I think the Knicks play hard. They got a bunch of liquor stores scrappers Scrap and dive on flows ain't scared to get elbowed to the face. The bodega. We on the bodega.

I think when you play physical against Denver, they all a little soft. I don't want to say soft, but like, come on, man. You got Murray. He going to throw some hot packs at him if you keep messing with him. You got Porter, light-skinned. Gordon, light-skinned. What's wrong with that, Nick? order light-skinned He likes game with the curve

It came from white the light-skinned when you put it like that He got a point y'all doing right now y'. Y'all know Black Dose. We still ain't sued for the tequila experiment. We owe y'all. We owe y'all on good law school. My uncle still can't move his legs. Shit. What the fuck is going on? Still walking like this. Hey, you all right?

Hey, was you good? They still owe me, goddamn it. They still owe me. The tequila experiment. We're We gonna go up there one day. I was like, what you talking about? That's that taquini in my foot. The sibling? Tuskegee.

I got the little Tuskegee in my foot. T-U-U, no. Come on, Alex. We on the block. I seen a girl use that. I seen a girl use that. You guys said taquige. Wait, what the hell was that?

So we know what we're talking about. Yeah, we know. So you know the vibe. You gotta pull up. That's what you would do. Use your vowels. Use your vowels. My bad.

That's not a vowel. There's an S in there. That's his letter. You supposed to put it. You supposed to put it. Women's always gotta be. Not a vowel. OK, OK.

You, A-E-I-O-U. We know what the vowels are. Oh, God. Not about you. We know Why sometimes why in the everyone a girl was like yeah, you gave me that no government did That wasn't me. I didn't do shit. I blamed it on you. I don't like dealing charges for you. I blamed it on you. Oh, okay, okay.

I don't like when y'all team up like that. No wonder you said the government. Don't call me sweetheart. Call the government. Stop, Lex. We gotta stop. We trying. We gotta stop.

Too much Kikian going on over here. No wonder she told me to call the government. I should have never went after you, Gil. I don't give a that, CD. That's the government. That's the government. I don't give No wonder she told me to call the government. I should have never went after you, Gil. I don't give a SED.

That's the government. I'm just a vessel. I should have never went after you that day. I should have never went. You should have never went. Thank you. Thank you, Colin. I should have never went after you.

So, Gil, when the Cat Julius Randall trade went down, I asked you to predict who would be the benefactor. You should have never went. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead, Joe. Joe, this ain't about you. It's never about me. Go to the party. DJ, this is about him.

You were merely a host. That's not right now. Turn your TV off. A blessing for a blessing. Turn your TV off. A blessing for a blessing. Yeah! We back. It is Thanksgiving, ladies and gentlemen.

The countdown is united. I know y'all like to see us going at each other. Make some mac and cheese, especially for y'all. We have our mac and cheese taste test coming soon. So, again, I know it's still early, but when the catcher of this round of trade went down, I asked you who do you think was going to be the winner. Now I'm going to ask you that same question again.

Are you ready to declare the Knicks the winner of the Cat Julius Randall trade? What a loaded question. They both got the pieces that they needed. I feel like it. I think the complaint with Cat was the softness. The way the team plays, there's no softest amongst the team, so

it's a good thing for them. I think they're going to benefit in the long run. He's got some big fucking feet, but besides... You're pointing to his big ass feet. It's just like Bobby's world out there.

The outfits we're wearing are the best we wearing is a piece of more. Skinny jeans. Skinny jeans. Skinny jeans. Big ass jeans. You know the athletes that use the tight shoes real tight? All the way tight. It's so tight.

The little part pop up. It's so tight, the little part. Ronald McDonald feet ass. Yeah, it just looks funny, but I think the Knicks is going to benefit from this. So we were on the playback stream last night at the watch party. You asked Knicks fans if they were really rocking

with Julius Randle. The Knicks fans we had in the chat said no. They were, which was unfortunate to see. All-NBA selection did a lot for the city. Helped bring the Knicks

back to promise, but they were not, yeah, for some reason. But big fans now getting Cat in there. Obviously, Mitchell Robinson still not back. Knicks 10-7 in a very, very mid-Eastern conference, but fourth overall. Did the Knicks fans say why they wasn't rocking with Julius?

They didn't get in there. See, because they never, because they just following the narrative, because they can't tell you why. Here we go. We got Knicks. Why don't y'all, why didn't, why didn't the one like Julius? I think the poor playoff performances, back to back, really soured the Knicks fans on Julius. Knicks, y'all better be happy y'all got to the playoffs. You know they tried to get rid of Melo for Jeremy Lin?

Yeah. I don't know what they want out of him. No, they didn't try to get rid, no, they wanted Jeremy Lin and. They've tried to keep Melo too. No, they wanted him and then one was like, me or him. Yeah, Melo said that for sure. So they were sitting there like... Nah, nah.

He was looking at Mike Wilson when he was coming back. It was the last shot. They tried to give the Jeremy Lin over Melo. Mike? No, no, no. That's what happened. At that point in time, yeah, it was... Could have went 50-50. At that moment. You, yeah, it was, could have went 50-50. At that moment.

At that moment. You think so, Stan? So, you like the cap move, you like what he's bringing to this Knicks squad. You think they can improve upon their season last year, second in the East, a game away from the Eastern Conference Finals? I do, because if you really look at their roster, when I made my original assessment of trying to see what Julius could bring with the roster, we didn't get to see it in its full potential.

I think they were what, 10-2, 10-3 or something like that when he was playing before he got hurt. But now we don't get to see what he could do with that new squad. But Cat, with Robinson, I think, gives you a Rudy Gobert, Cat, Minnesota kind of feel. So maybe it's going to be a problem, though, when Mitchell comes back, because it's going to be someone clogging the paint. No, no, no. Mitchell know how to get out of there.

Mitchell is a dog. Because I feel like that's why Cat is playing so well, because he ain't got nobody down there clogging up the lane. Mitchell start. Do he start? Oh, he will. I thought they were trying to make like a poor man's Boston team.

They could. I like that too. I mean, they might keep him on the bench. Like Cat B, Prezinga. He defies. Yeah, yeah.

I like that. Because OG played good at the point. I mean, I feel like they should start. Because as well as Cat's playing, I don't think when

Mitchell Robinson gets healthy they should disrupt that. Yeah. I mean, I like the Prezinga's cat matchup. That's what I'm saying. That's what I thought they was doing. At the end of the day, that's what you got to beat,

the Celtics. Yeah. They bring better people in. You got Horford. Yeah, stop hating over there. Cavs. Oh, yeah. Wait.

Cavs got something for y'all. They got OG, Cagard, Tatum. They got Bridges. Bridges, Cagard. All right. Go ahead, Gil. How many series did the Knicks with Julie? Just one, right? Two.

Two. No, no. With Trae Young and then last year. No, last year he was hurt. Yeah, last year he was hurt. The year before that. So 2021 and then 22, 23. Yeah. But remember he gave them the middle finger or something like that? 24.

Yeah, that's why. Now he hit the game winner. Was this after the COVID? This is the COVID one, right? After COVID. And then that's when he was like, yeah, you know. So they won one series with Randall actually playing, right? It's good to hear the crowd cheering for us.

And I was like, yeah, that's the sound box, my player. That's when they had like 2,000 fans in there. And they was playing the speakers, and it was just all cheers. And I remember, I was like, yeah, that's way to the Knicks fans coming to playoffs. Yeah. So let's go back to OG Ananobi real quickly. Got to give him some love.

Had that 40-piece. Been instrumental to the Knicks' success. It's coming over in that midseason trade from Toronto last season So since that trade the Knicks are 30 and 10 with Ananobi in the lineup this season Oh geez after 19.5 rebounds per game on 52 42 83 shooting splits. He also averages 1.5 steals per game and guards the opposing team's best player on most nights He also a big fan of gills arena presented by underdog. Woot Woot. Saw him at Summer League. He said, what's up? I said, okay.

My hosting is really catching your attention. But is OGN and OB worthy of all-star consideration? Come on, man. 19 and a half. That would mean that they'd have three all-stars on their team? That would mean that, yes. I mean, right now he's playing great basketball right now.

$250 million. That's how much he's getting paid right now? $230, $200 or something. How much did he have? $19? $19.5. In the East? I don't know if you put him in.

$1.5 still. You can't put him in. You can't put three Knicks in. You can't have three All-Stars. He's a role player. If they win it. He's a role player. I mean.

But you put Scottie Foran in last year, so you can. Because he's... They were trying to make him the star of the team. They're the same guy. They tried. No, they're not. They were pushing an narrative. Actually, OG is way better than Scottie.

Right, but they were trying to push a narrative. No, no, no. They were trying to push a narrative. They can't do that with OG. You know what? You can't. He's... It was...

I think the way Scottie plays is exactly how he is. It was the same. Yeah, it was the same. It was the same type of. He was just younger, like you said. He went younger. Yeah, it was the same type of guy that gives you. They play a little bit of everything.

Yep. I think here, you know, he's more of a, reminds me of a Kawhi Leonard type. Just not. New York? Just New York? Just not as good as Kawhi Leonard type. Just not, not. New York, this New York. Just not as good as Kawhi, but it's that type of player. Like, defensively two-way, get weird buckets. You be like, okay, you got 40.

But at least Kawhi, Kawhi got a go-to, though. Yeah, yeah, Kawhi, he ain't got a go-to. He ain't got a go-to. He's just a struggle bucket. That's what I'm saying. He got 40, but you're sitting there like, OG make a lot of. Masai, yeah. He gets it.

It's like he gets it done. It's going to depend on their record, I think. Yeah, for him to get in. Because there's a lot of players in the East that are playing at a high level, but they're not winning. Yeah. They're scoring more points. I mean, theory of the Cavs.

The Cavs will get three. 65? The 60s? 60s? 65? Yeah, like Melo will be. No, no. Look at that.

I'm putting him down. No, for the All-Star game. He's plus seven. I mean, he's plus seven. Melo will be in there. I'm putting the big from the Cavs will get three. The Seahawks in 65? The Seahawks in 65? Yeah, like Melo will be. No, no. Look at that. I'm putting the big fans from. No, for the All-Star game. He's plus seven. I mean, he's plus seven. Melo will be in there. I'm putting the big from the Cavs in before him. The Cavs may get three Celtics. Who? Which one?

Mobley? Let's see. Mobley, yeah. Mobley. Cavs may get three. Celtics will get two. Magic will probably just give. Don't hate Gil.

Give Wagner. So it's what? You think Wagner will get it? I mean, just depending on where Paolo comes from. Pancero, Wagner. You got to put Melo in there. Mobley. You got to put Melo in there. Then you got what? Donovan Mitchell don will get it? I mean, just depending on where Paolo comes from. Pachero, Wagner, Mobley. You got to put Mello in there.

Then you got what, Donovan Mitchell? Don't get it? You put Mobley in? You going with Damian Yonis? I'm going with Damian Yonis. Evan, 17. Maxie. I'm going Mobley. Brunson.

Garland. Trey Young. Mitchell got to get in. Trey Young. No Trey Young? They can't get Trey. Trey ain't going to get in. They're in team.

They can't get in. They can't get in. All-star days down. But we can make it, though. We can make this shit. We can make it. I have a question. The thing is, I think it's going to be...

Garland got to get in. Nah. Nah. Because of guard play. See, Mobley had the five or the four. He'll get in. He has a better chance. For sure.

Because it's thin. Three of them are going to get in. Hmm? If they stay at number one, I think three of them get in. You got to reward it. Yeah, they'll do that.

But if it's one, Garland will be the third. Yeah. Garland is the third. Right now, Mobley is the second one. I think he takes Dame's spot.

If they keep going, does Jared Allen make it too? And they go old school Pistons, old school Atlanta Hawks where you got four to start.

I'm going to tell you right now, if four get in, I will be triggered. You you right now if four get in I will be triggered mentally Before them get in I will mentally be triggered from what happened to me and it just is just It's not gonna be I want you to go back I'm over here like you barely got one All-Star, but you got four to the end. That's a problem.

Hide the blinking. See, me thinking about it right now, you got a half an All-Star on this team. But three of them got jerseys off with a fourth. You ain't got nothing between them couches. Like, you're hurting my heart here. I thought this was about All-Star, not good records. Right? That could be another game, right?

We all making this number I don't give a fuck if the Lakers is in first place. If the Lakers are in first place, Austin Reeves and Rui, you bet not even mention all-star. You would. No, you bet not. If Austin Reeves is averaging 17, you got to. You better not cut that 17 again, bro. If I'm averaging 17 and we're number one, my 17 helped me be number one.

No, not if you have LeBron and ADS. No, it don't matter. So why Jason Terry was never an all-star? Kyle Corbett was. I asked you a question. I'm asking you a question. I'm asking you a question. Why was Jason Terry never an all-star?

He averaged 20 off the bench. Who? Off Jason Terry, Dallas Mavericks. The J. And Jamal Crawford and May. And Jamal. And what's the call that made it before? Kyle Corbin made it over.

Why? I'm just saying. You talking about 17 as a third option. Yes. And there's a first option somewhere not making it. Yes. Hell no. Yes.

That's averaging more. Because if my 17 started to do the same, I could do the same thing your ass doing on your losing team. But you can't. Yes, that's averaging more. Because if my seventh team third, I can do the same thing your ass doing on your losing team. Eli, you can't because you a third option. Swag, if you in Philly, if you in Philly, you averaging 25 a game. And I'm in Charlotte averaging 14. No, we're not saying Charlotte. Charlotte's not never going to be number one. We're just saying, put me on a good team like Cleveland

I won't Cleveland 14 in game you you know you He's Mowgli right now and you Sabonis And he get in he better shit over me Number one most triple-d. It don't matter. Oh my God. So you say, okay, use a different scenario because I know

what you're doing. Use someone lesser than Sabonis. Lesser? Yep. Why would I go lesser? Because he's trying to say that the triple doubles

he's using a metric. Defamation. Yeah, of course. The triple doubles don't get in? No. He got in over you. I don't care.

My triple doubles, they ain't doing that triple doubles shit. You are smart. He's supposed to get in. You are smart. You are all-star. No, you're not. No, we're not.

You're not averaging the same. No, we're not. We are not the same. I'm a star. You are third option. I'm just on a good team. If me and you switched places, you would not.

All right, so if Porzingis was fucking playing all season, he don't get to the all-star game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He averaged 20 and 10. Thank you. What are you talking about? He averaged 20 and 10 20 and 10. Thank you. What are we talking about? He averaged 20 and 10. He's the third option.

What are we talking about? 20 and 10. All right. Those are All-Star numbers, Nick. 20 and 10. Those are All-Star numbers. 17 and 4. And 20 and 10 is you pop in, pop out, have a good game.

Don't play. Pop in, pop out. How about 20 and 10? I'm telling you, every day averaging 17 and 10. And 4. 17 and 10. And 4. 17 and 4. You're averaging 17 and 4. If I'm number one, I'm in. Draymond Green, 17 and 4 and 4 and 4 17 and 4 you have your 17 and 4

If I'm number one, Draymond Green 7 and 7 and 4 all-star got in I would have flipped the motherfucking franchise over Franchise over How the fuck you get in over me? The free time I don't give a fuck about you winning the game because if you take the other two people out,

you are not a star. You're not in the chart. When Draymond fouled out and got suspended, they lost. You take away Draymond, he's still a star. That doesn't mean he's not a star. If I'm impacting our number one, I should be a star. All-star is so... There's 24 spots, which means in theory,

the best 24 players should be there. It actually has... You came into the league... All-Star. Because y'all acting like somebody don't got a score. It's as team,

somebody got a score. It's All-Star. They got Stewart. This is All-Star. Five, four shots, fourth ball. It's taking the fun out of All-Star. Let her go.

It's the best. It's the best player. Let her go. Taking the fun out of the All-Star game when you... How? Because you're using team metrics You are the best. Let her go. It's the best. It's the best player. Let her go. Let's see if you got something. Taking the fun out of the all-star game. How? Because you're using team metrics and record to make all-stars. You don't got the best 24 guys in the all-star game.

If I play for the asses team, but I get to shoot all the shots. And you average 30? I think you should be an all-star. And don't make somebody got to shoot. You're the best player. On the team. You should be an all-star. At least be considered.

Like, think about it. Trey Young averaged 30 and 10, and he's not an all-star. That means there's going to be somebody on there that's not even in his world, but their record was better. Yes. If you remove Trey and put that dude, that dude cannot do what Trey do. How do you know that? He's not good enough. Because we watched the Trey do. He's not good enough. We know he's not good enough.

And by averaging 17 on less times, I'm not going to average more. Because for the most part, Trey is probably better than probably the person who is the best player. You can't say that. We know it is. And you're talking about 17. You're averaging 17. You're saying, oh, what happens if I go

to another team? You don't know that by circumstance You're only averaging 17 because those other guys on the floor open the floor up for that you can score That's the only reason you're averaging 17. So don't you be all-star then who stroller? Show no, why do you keep why? He's having 18. Well, he was averaging more than Brunson at one point. No, he wasn't. When? What year? This year. We're not even close there. We're not even close.

Last year. Who didn't make it? There was a guy who averaged a double-double, probably led the NBA in the fifth. Well, the other dude on Brooklyn. What's his name? The, the, the... Ham Thomas? Yes.

He should make it then. We're talking about... We're not talking about... When that happens, we will see. If every team needs a representate... A representative? A representative, he would be it. Cam Thomas, yes.

Cam Thomas would be the representative. 30 teams, everybody don't get one. Some people got to, you know. But let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk a little bit about the Nuggets, you know, since we have to. Got to go back to the drawing board after allowing the Knicks to drop 145 points in their building. When asked after the blowout if the Nuggets would flush this game, Nuggets head coach Michael Malone had other ideas.

Move a trio. Oh, f*** that, man. No, no, no. No, no, no. We're not flushing. You don't flush when you get embarrassed. You don't flush when you gave up 145 points. You don't flush when you didn't play hard,

didn't play with effort, didn't play with physicality. I'm not flushing anything. I mean, you know. Oh, man. You gotta flush. If you would've came in that locker room, I don't want to just... I don't give a fuck what you do with me. So, what a party that. Speaking of the

party, Gil, speaking of the party, Jamal Murray has some other thoughts as to why the team may have looked flat on Monday. It's a long season. Guys have lives outside of basketball. We just beat LA in LA. Got some guys that live in LA, so stayed in LA.

Like I said, I don't think the focus was there from everybody. That's what happens when you don't have a focus. Like I said, not on coach it's not on what plays are running it's not on anybody else but the guys that are out there on the court so like I say it's tough it's a tough one to go back and watch or even accept but it was expected you know if that's the kind of energy that the whole team is gonna bring to start the game and continuously you know not have a response then that's the kind of energy that the whole team is going to bring to start the game and continuously not have a response, then that's what happens.

So we've been on the other side of it. I've been on the other side of it. And tonight we were on the wrong end of it. So Jamal Murray did go on to clarify that he was turning up in L.A. too. It wasn't just the L.A. guys. Little D-Lo. He didn't have to say all that. Little D-Lo.

What's the funniest? Oh, wait, wait. So the reason was the turn up? Little D-Lo. He didn't have to say all that. Little D-Lo. Little D-Lo. Oh, wait, wait. So the reason was the turnout? Little D-Lo. Well, L.A. beat them. Rashad, as you know, after you beat LeBron, Raymond James, Sr., father of Bronny James, Jr., AD in that Lakers squad, you celebrate because they are the

defending NBA Cup champions. They already swept y'all. They don't need to do any celebration. Two clubs for comfort. He didn't even have to do all that. They don't need to do no celebration. Should've went the other way. Hold on. You just pull up. He didn't even have to do that. They don't need to do no celebration. Could have went the other way. Oh, wait.

Hold on. Hold on. You just pull up on the old work that you got last year. Just pull up on the old work. You stay what? Little dealer. So they played in L.A. when? Saturday.

Saturday. They're Saturday night. I forgot. So they decided we going to party Saturday night. In L.A. And then go back home. Most teams just go back home. right after the game, right? So did so they stay The next day great city they have fun

With the party On Sunday on Sunday, they went to Denver no. On a charter flight. Yeah, that was uncalled for. It's not like you got to Denver 3 in the morning. You got there 3 p.m. on Friday. You got to sleep in, you want a good breakfast. That's why you have to clarify that. In Jamal Murray's defense, a lot of people can't handle L.A., Gil. L.A. closed at 2.

You got to be built different. You got to be built different. He ain't got press. He said that, Russ heard it, then he changed the story up. He said, I was partying in L.A. Yeah said that Russ heard it, then he changed the story up. He said, I was partying in LA. Yeah. That's West Side, as he's known as.

This ain't Miami. This ain't Miami. No, he could have said we. He ain't say we. He didn't say we. He said, guys, live in LA. He went on to clarify. He went on.

But he should have said we from the start. If this was Miami, we staying up 6, 7, 8 in the morning, coming from the club right to the plane. Man. Ooh. It's L.A. L.A. closed that too, yeah. I don't like the excuses, man.

I don't like the fucking excuses, man. Like, you get blown out at home by 30, you get, like, the excuse. You gonna blame L.A. What kind of shit is that? Yeah, not only that, but to be on some flat, like, oh, we didn't come out and da-da-da-da-da. Like, to say that as an analysis for what our team is, like, yeah, we came out flat tonight. It's just like, that's not acceptable to a fan who paid money to come see y'all. And you say, okay, we partied and we woo-woo-woo-woo.

You get paid all this money, man. Like, some of this shit over here, I'll sub in for you, bro. Nope, we're not doing that. I'll sub in for you. We're not doing that. No, no, doing that. I'll sub in for you. We not doing that. We not doing that. No, no, no.

We not sub in for you. The excuse is weak. What's up? The excuse is weak as fuck. That is huge. Just say we got our ass whooped. You get paid to be prepared. Yeah, we got whooped.

82 days we got our ass whooped. That shit happens, man. God damn it. No, you're going to give New York their credit, dog. They were better than us tonight. Say that. They beat our ass. They beat our ass. Because we didn't play bad. They're acting like they played bad.

Right? It's not like you had a Lego and everybody on your team shot the ball actually well. You only had 11 turnovers. You went to the free throw line. Them motherfuckers just on fire. Yeah. But what do you do? You're the only person from LA really on that

team. I didn't say that. Well, Peyton Watson, Long Beach. But I was 9 for 16. But what do you do? You're the only person from L.A. on that team and you say that. Well, Peyton Watson, Long Beach. But I was nine for 16. But what do you do? But I can say if I was three for 16, I'm nine for 16.

I got 27. Rush dropped 24 in the fourth quarter. But what was said? Elaborate on what you said that you're trying to. You said, you know, people from L.A.,

that we have to stay in L.A. because people from L.A. That's what he said. Just now. Like they couldn't just say, y'all can leave. Yeah, he didn't say we. All the LA kids.

He didn't say we. He went on to say we after he called some people. He said we on Twitter. Okay, I'm just saying we later on. Yeah, what the A said. He said, so he's saying we stayed in LA because of the guys that live in LA. Two and four. So we got two and four LA.

Great. That's what I was saying. 50%. Other LA kids, seven for 17. Because they can handle LA, Gil. And then you got DeAndre Jordan. He didn't score a bucket. Really don't matter. Then you got Russ, nine and 16.

All the LA kids played well. Jamal Murray, Canadian light skater. Why do you say that? You don't say that. You just said D-Lo, D-Lo. That's what it sounds like. It was just an excuse. Instead of giving them credit.

They came and they played well. But you throw your old teammate under the bus at the same time. They shot 60%. You throw your old teammate under the bus at the same time. Teammates. That all play better than us. Who do it really go to? Do you think they forced that stay? Russ?

Do you think they forced that? No, he can fly back on his own. He can do it on his own. That's what I'm saying. Like, what would be a reason to say that if you're doing it against your will? Like, if I'm like, coach, let's go back. Let's go. He'll be like, nah, we're going to stay.

The season, but the schedule's already done pre, day before the team. Yeah, they already know. The team already knows we're going to stay. They already know we went through it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they don't like all of a sudden be like, oh, we're going to stay tonight. They definitely did.

That's training. Coach probably even told them to go have fun. Huh? Coach probably said, we're going to stay. Y'all go have fun. Every coach stays. That's what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck what these coaches are talking about.

You motherfuckers are staying in LA. When you go to San Francisco, if you have an extra day, you go into wine country. All you motherfuckers is drunk. Y'all are going to wine country before you go to Sacramento. So if you're playing Golden State on Wednesday and you're playing Sacramento on Friday, you're going to stay in

San Francisco. You're going to play. You're going to stay over, go to wine, and then your ass is going to drive as late as possible to fucking Sacramento. Everybody does. Every team I've been on, that's the rule. Why, why don't you want to get to Sacramento early and acclimate with the city? Because all the wine vineyards is

up close to there. But Sacramento has seven chilies in their metropolitan area. Do you want the chilies or do you want free drink all goddamn day? I don't know. Go to Chili's Tour? No, no. All seven of them. Deadass, you're going to stay in San Francisco

over Sacramento. If you're in Miami, you got to go to Miami, Orlando. You're going to stay in Miami and then go as late as possible to Orlando. You're not going to go to Disney World. You're going to go to Milwaukee. You're going to stay in Chicago. Yep.

Shit. We might play Chicago, Milwaukee. We're not even going to Milwaukee. We're going to stay in Chicago. We can play Milwaukee, Milwaukee. We're not even going to Milwaukee. We can play Milwaukee first and Chicago second. We're going to stay in Chicago, drive to Milwaukee.

For real. What the fuck? Listen, motherfuckers used to hate to play New Jersey, then New York, and then we staying in Jersey. Hey, we still driving to the city. We still driving to the city. But we be mad. Like, come on, man.

These stupid-ass hotels in Jersey. Garden State. Why did he even say that? That's what I'm saying. The coaches say nothing. Why did he even say that? So let's go back to Mike Malone for one second. Maybe he don't agree with a motherfucker being on his team.

That's what I'm saying. Let's go back to Michael Malone's comments about they're not going to flush it. They're not going to flush this ball. No, he said he's not. So is it easier to flush a blowout loss to go back and dissect Everything that went wrong Like we got our ass beat. We know we're in the season From my experience when you get your ass whoop from the beginning to the end you you it's cool

It's easier Like third quarter going to the fourth, you're down 35. You're sitting there like, yeah. About to get kicked out. Right?

You're sitting there. The one that hurts is when you already accepted defeat and then you come back. You come back, tie the game up, go on one.

And then boom, they win it. That's the worst. What the fucking... That's like getting that text, your girl cheating. Like, I'm going one. Oh Girl cheating like She already home get no more In three making all the hardest bucket sometimes And then they come down easy basket you like Hitting three, doing this shit. Making all the hardest buckets sometimes. Still looks. Ooh. And then they come down, easy basket. You like, fuck, they're hurt.

Damn. We almost did it. Almost. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. They not like that. Like, they flush.

This is a flush. You got your ass whooped. You got whooped from the beginning to the end. But listen, though. No. Can we be honest, though? Like, if you get flushed out from beginning to end, it's not OK.

It's not. No, it's not OK. But you can't sit and dissect it. You know why it's not OK? You know why we got to dissect it? Because let's say for the previous three games we've been playing well, and then we get our ass whooped at home randomly, we need to figure this out, right?

But if we're playing bad for those three games, and then we get our ass whooped, now we know we in a skid. We need to figure this out, right? But if we playing bad for those three games and then we get our ass whoop now we know we in a skid We need to fix some shit. We win those three and then we lose this one We know we can go back to playing good. We just had a bad had a bad night. But is it a bad night? Is it a bad night? Like I'm like I'm sitting here like, to be honest, I scored 118. I scored 118. And the Knicks shot's 2-3-10. Everybody did well.

We got to the free throw line. We did Denver basketball. That's one of those nights like that. They just had one of those out of my, that's like Boston in the first half. Like, there's really nothing we can do. It's their night. But think about it.

If that was their night, and this is standard New York Knicks basketball, the Denver Nuggets are in trouble It's not that's not saying I'm not rolling That's like being that 24 and a person that I'm supposed to make a shot make a shot on you No, I would the Knicks we all you and so many threes and shit come on We just paid two hundred million dollars the diamond you get that tag all your attributes go up once you get that money You can go by COD you COD coins

All that Gordon make a big VC I get my VC I got to Make a difference energy Athletic gonna make a difference This one I'll be worried about that one. I'll be absolutely 94 90 but nasty This one I'd be worried about. That one I'd be worried about. Absolutely. 94-90. Nasty. They 2-4, right? And they last. You know, you score 90 points against the Grizzlies.

You score 94 against the Pelicans. We're going to have some conversations about that. Yes, that's what I'm saying. They scored 1-on-1, but why are we scoring 94? What the fuck are we doing? And we got a triple-double machine. I know, but that's what I'm saying. Those are the conversations I'm having. Why are we scoring 94? What the fuck are we doing? And we got a triple-double machine. I know, but that's what I'm saying.

Those are the conversations I'm having. Like, why are we, the Denver Nuggets, scoring 94 and 96 against these bottom-feeding teams? Like, I know what you're gonna do against the Lakers. I know what you're gonna do. Why are we doing it? Why are we playing down to our opponents? And we got two triple-double machines. Yeah, two.

You do have two. How is this even a goddamn thing? Well, let's keep this thing moving. In the spirit of Thanksgiving, we're doing holiday-themed segments all week on Gil's Arena. So we love to compete here on the couch. So we're seeing who makes the best mac and cheese among us all. So yesterday, we had Canyon and Brandon's mac and cheeses. Guaranteed, I win. Guaranteed, I win. So we had a canyon and Brandon's mac and cheese is guaranteed. I win

Guarantee I win Gil Rashad Lexi swag Who is sick for like you done sold somebody out You could have put it in another day. I know this I already know the chick for life. I know it just a look This is gills Mac. I'm going to just go on. This is modern. This is a 2024 woman. It's a 2024 woman right here. Just go to Chick-fil-A?

Just go to Chick-fil-A. Here's Chick-fil-A. This is Lexi for sure. No, Lex! In my defense. This is Lexi stuff. This is Lexi? Yeah, this is woman.

Oh, okay. This is woman. This is what we're doing now. Yeah, this is what we're getting now. Oh, man. Can I explain? Damn. That's Gil's Mac. That's my mom. That's my mom. That's, though. This is Lexi's? Yeah, this is woman's. Oh. This is woman's. This is what we doing now.

This is what we getting now. Oh, man. Can I explain? This is what y'all doing? Damn. That's Gil's you got right here. Why is there cheese all on the top? I ain't even gonna lie to y'all.

I ain't even gonna lie to y'all. This is yours, Josiah, huh? I ain't gonna lie to y'all. Now, mine's over here. This yours? That's Gil's right there you got. This Gil's? No, this is Melly's.

OK, Gil. This is Melly's. You like that? Hell no. Yeah. It tastes like the presentation. Or this is Melly. OK, Gil. This is Melly. You like that? Hell no. Yeah. It tastes like the presentation. And it's still cold.

It's cold as hell. I can't even. The presentation of it looks right. They didn't put it in the oven. God damn. Y'all just saw it. That was bad. It was great last night.

You just threw all the cheese on top, guys. Yeah, you just threw the cheese on top, man. You just put cheese on top. Cucumber sauce. You know that? The rest of the noodle cooked. C, you just threw the cheese on top, man. You just put cheese on top. You know what I mean? The rest of the noodle cooked. This is worse than me. Huh? That's mine, yeah.

Yeah. That's yours. Easy, Mac. That's yours. Hell yeah. I know you can cook. This is worse than me. Yeah, yeah, you won.

You got it. I can tell by the way you look. Thank you, Swaggy. You want one, don't you? No. You want one. Hey't you? No. You want one. Hey, give me that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was in the pantry. See? Hey. A struggle bar. That was in your pantry.

You were like, fuck, I'm gonna bring it. I'm gonna take this. My kids eat that. I need to give you my recipe. What you got? Huh? I got a... Y'all got the video?

I don't ever really use folks. I ain't gonna lie. Let's take a look at the video of Gil making his mac and cheese. I'm video making it. I got to give you my recipe. They ain't don't do nothing. That's what I'm saying. It's like, what's up? I'm going to cook my famous mac and cheese.

He's got a white piece of cheese. He's dead. I knew it was the food. Gil's my guy. He's a real superhero. He's a real superhero. I knew it was some bullshit! Oh, my God! Yeah! Hey, he's a real superhero. He's a real superhero. We brothers.

We brothers. You put the extra cheese on there, though. You put the extra cheese on there. Come on, Nick. How you doing? Oh, he's just resting. Why are you just standing there? Why are you just standing there? Why are you just standing there? Yes.

Stop. What? Easy back in the oven is crazy. You take that to a little family reunion. They might cheer when you're on the air. This is my world's famous mac and cheese. All right, Josiah. All right. Jos right. All right.

All right. Hey, listen. Hey, can I get some of mine? Can I get some of mine to clean my palate? I'm trying to tell you, man, that the kids love it, dog. Man. Huh? I ain't gonna lie, they do.

All you do is just take it out of that and put it in the back of my mouth. That's it. Put it in the back of my mouth. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. For real. I mean, when I saw this, I was like, this looks like Easy Meat.

It was like this looks like No better be seasoned every every every morsel you got to season your noodles. That's what people don't know. Yes. Uh-huh. You got to season your noodles. I got to try this my first time trying it, though. I don't know how it came out. I don't know, Joe.

If it was a little more warm. This tastes like grandma. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They don't say it tastes like grandma. You can taste it. Yeah. It's all right. It's a little fresh, like warm.

Guys, what do we think? Who wins? Who wins? Who wins? The toilet going to win. That's who's going to win. What do we think who wins who wins who wins? This is what I call it the door they gonna win. That's who's gonna win. That's all they're going I'm not you know, what is a lot whose idea was to get the cheese today bring one of them get bring one of them Kids in here. I can tell you who won Cheese all you see all they just see is cheese. I've been, look, I've been through. All they care about is just cheese. Yeah.

I even put the regular cheese in. You put the regular cheese in? Yeah. Not the plastic? I put the plastic. Boom. Ooh! Mix that in.

You want to get special, you should, like, shred cheese off. You can't be making food like you from the food, for real. You can't be out here making hood food. I can't get food in the mansion. He in the mansion making hood food. Put a linen outfit on, white beater. White beater? No socks? I'll tell you how this thing goes. No shit, no nothing. He in the mansion. Put an outfit on, white beater.

No socks? I'll tell you all this shit, though. No shit, no nothing. He just in there crusting. Think about it. When you get your kids, and they be like, oh, I'm hungry. Oh, man, you just walking. Spaghetti.

Get it from the Ralph's. Spaghetti-o. I get it from the Ralph's, put it in a pan, throw my shit in there. You know, got to put it like I made it. Throw some little sugar, some little extra sauce, mix it in, put it in, pop it out. I'm good.

Yo, this is crazy. Kids, they like sugar on everything. Yeah, they do. Got them motherfuckers hyped. Let them tell them. I'm Hell's Kitchen around here. Gordon Ramsay. I'm Gordon Ramsay. When that sugar rush, then they go to sleep, right?

Yeah, yeah. No way. Thank you, Lord. It's over, man. I'm Gordon Ramsay. Give them that sugar rush, then they go to sleep, right? Yeah, yeah. No way. Man, give them that sugar rush. That's my stuff. Bring it. Bring it. The year is over, man.

I got you. You want some more candy? I don't give a fuck about no diabetes. Take your ass to sleep. That ain't my body. That's your body. Eat that. Eat.

Sleep. Leave me alone. That's of the year on this couch. So I got it. My daddy was fine. My body good. this your body. We are good, we are so good. So just to confirm, who got the best Mac?

Josiah. Oh thank you, God bless you Lexi. Lexi's arenas. Out of all of them, we tied. Out of all of them? We tied. Probably Kenyon or Brandon. Brandon had some like little garlic in it.

Yeah, he did. That garlic part. I just knew Kenyon's was going to be fun. I was supposed to have somebody help me with mine. The work? Yeah, they chose. I didn't have time. They chose.

Otherwise? Otherwise. I do know how to make mac and cheese. I just didn't have time to make it. I was busy. Well, shout out to everybody

for getting the mac and cheese. I was in Vegas yesterday. The fact that you went to, you went there this morning. I didn't. They got it for me. I didn't even go myself. You didn't even go.

Wow. Wow. I had the choice this morning. So you didn't have to get up in the morning and get a homie the coffee or nothing. You just laid in bed. I went to the gym. So the homie got to get his own coffee. I could have gotten up to the grocery store and made mac and cheese.

So y'all are unserious about the challenge. Meanwhile, I take it serious out of respect for our crew. I took mine serious. Yeah, we was on playback last night. I went back and made the mac and cheese. I, I take it serious out of respect for our crew. I took mine serious. Yeah, we was on playback last night. I went back and made the magazine. I had to do it. I had to make mine after. See?

Unfortunately, mine just takes 20 minutes. I got my lashes done, and then I went to sleep. Man, I picked that shit out this morning. I'm literally just a girl. Right out the cabinet. This is going to play very well for me. This is exactly what me and the work eat on a regular Wednesday. I know everybody in the chat be like, what?

Regular Wednesday. And the people in the chat going to be like, I need to try this. Go get some of that mac and cheese out there. Go throw that in the microwave. Presentation is key. You don't fool me. You have me fooled. All you do is you got to take it out the regular pot,

put it in glass. Until I tried it. Yeah, until I tried it. Until I tried it. And it's good. What you put in this? It's like fruit punch, right? Bro. The fruit punch in the cart and the fruit punch in the can taste different.

Yeah, very different. They do. They do. That is fair. This is true. It's not a fruit punch. It's fruit punch. Kool-Aid and lemonade.

It's all about tiki punch. Good job, Joe. But let's keep this thing moving. This is good, Joe. Well, you know. Shout out to the homie, Wells P. I modified his recipe, but Wells P's recipe for mac and cheese. That's y'all's first win today. First light-skinned win. Light-skinned are back. We are back. His wife made that.

I know. I promise you. I make... Who ain't gonna bring your wife up? She know I made that mac and cheese. Oh, you not gonna give her credit anyway? Tommy, hey. See, this marriage thing, he not giving you good marriage advice. You supposed to give the wife credit for everything.

Look. You're about to give me a touchdown when I get home. He won. Yep. He won in light skiing. And you can do the same. We're taking over. It might be light skiing at the end of today.

It's not. It's not. You might need to come out with a Not Like Us Part 2. Shut this light skiing shit down. Yeah, all the way. All the way, man. Let's keep it moving. It, all the way. All the way. Let's keep moving. It's been too long.

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the three minute yeah right after this Let's put... And listen, you can take my home to the kids. They're going to love it. I ain't ate Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A. All right, let's put three minutes on the clock. Here is the question. The OKC Thunder overtook the Warriors for the number one seed in the West last night. SGA dropped a cool 37 points on 13 for 20 from the field to go along with 11 assists and a win over the Kings.

On the Warriors' side, they surrendered an 18-point lead to the Nets at home and a loss last night. Steph Curry did have 28, though. He was 8 for 17 shooting and 8 for 16 from three. What? He was 8 for 16 threes in one regular jump. He was 8 for 16 from three.

So Warriors had a 9-point lead when Steph Curry was subbed out with 433. Left in the third quarter. So Steph shot three. That's good, though. He can do that. He was 8 for 17 from the field. From the field So Steph... Only shot three. That's good, though. He can do that. He was eight for 17 from the field. From the field.

Eight for 16 from the three. So he said, psych once. See, at his age, that's good. So Warriors had a nine-point lead when Steph Curry was subbed out

with 433 left in the third quarter. But they were down by four points when he came back into the game with 729 left in the fourth quarter.

That was an entire game, but I'm excited y'all need me. He sat for about nine minutes. So he left with 4.33 in the third, came back with 7.29 in the fourth. They were up nine when he left, down four when he came back in. So that's about nine minutes a game actually without Curry, which Warriors fans weren't happy about last night online. But back to the team. When he checked in, he was stretching.

Wait, but how much were they up? They were up nine when he checked out. They were only nine? Down four. Did he score when he got in? We can talk about the Warriors. That's a long time. Kurt do that.

Kurt probably is... That long? So four minutes and the timeout and another four minutes? He only played 29 minutes total in the game. They were down. They were up when he got in. He was up three? Let's played 29 minutes total in the game. They were down. They were down, but he got in. He got out. It was up three?

Let's get to the question. Of nine. Nine. Let's get to the question. More likely to end up as the number one seed in the West, Thunder or Warriors? Have at it. Thunder.

Who's more likely to end up as number one? Thunder. Okay, damn. Y'all two. We don't need all the minutes. All right, we got about 250 left. Let's talk more about Steph then. I mean, just Thunder

because they're trying to prove something. Golden State is not at the age where they need to prove that they are the best team. So, Kerr is, I mean, just like now,

Steph is not going to be playing 30 to 45 minutes. Say Warriors. They're not playing 45 minutes. He's going to be playing 29 to 33 minutes. Them OKC to say Warriors. They're not playing 45 minutes. He's going to be playing 29 to 33 minutes. Them OKC kids is going to play. Yeah.

They got some of the boost. I'm going to say Warriors. Nick, you weren't on the show yesterday, but the last four times that Kendrick has dropped an album, the Warriors are going on to win a championship. I was going to say Warriors. They know how to play. They use smarts over that young shit.

Half the time that works. Like when I play, if y'all play now and get some young people at the gym, y'all gonna win a game. I think they know how to use... They... Well, they brain more than, you know, going against somebody that's going out there trying to do a step-back three.

Yeah, yeah. Not playing a game. Yeah, not playing a game right. What's his team gonna be doing? Yeah, I think that... William, I get what he's saying. He's just saying experience and maturity can help the Warriors more. But I just don't think that the Warriors are going to try to burn themselves out trying to be first.

No, I don't think so either. I think they know it's a marathon. Yeah, if it's the last 10 games, and I don't see Steve Kerr sitting here trying to win all 10 games. Just for one. But it depends on if the Lakers at that eighth spot or something. He's going to duck. If the Lakers don't, he'll duck.

He will for sure drop, but if somebody else, like the Kings at that eighth spot, he's going to want to. Oh, yeah, he's going to try to win, yeah. Exactly. But if it's the Lakers, of course. Yeah, yeah, they have a tough time. Hey, hey, hey, hey, man. For your life. My bad.

My damn. And let's go back to, obviously, Steve Kerr, four NBA titles as a coach. I know. Just leave it. Won 71% of his playoff games, which is the best mark in NBA history. But are you OK with Warriors fans questioning Steve Kerr

for his substitution pattern with Steph Curry last night? Warriors fans don't question it anyway. Couldn't beat me. You don't have to fire me in that press conference. Who the fuck y'all think y'all talking to? Y'all was fine when I won these four championships playing them this week. Ungrateful ass.

Y'all some ungrateful ass. Hey, man, bring us back to Oakland. These stupid ass fans in San Francisco is getting on my nerves. They done gentrified the Warriors. That's what happened when you got expectation, though. Yeah, true. You set yourself up. Yeah.

Steve, you know about winning championships. He does. So we asked the chat, more likely to be the one seed between the Warriors and Thunder? 97% said it. 77% said Thunder. Yeah. Yeah, Chad. Cooked.

Tell your Warriors. They're not cooked. How much more time we got? Damn. Y'all did that quick. Y'all know y'all talking their asses like to always go past the... They're not cooked. Cooked.

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He started. Waters III started. Hey, no, no, no, no, no. That's it right there. No, I don't know if y'all know. I don't know if y'all know, but look. You all know that it's unlimited walk-ons now in college? What you mean?

Unlimited. You can just funnel them through NIL. No, no, no, no, no. Walk, you know, remember like we played, it was like two walk-ons. Yeah, you pay to get on the team. You can have unlimited now. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They need people to make the team look full and then... Unlimited? Yeah. Walk on. Go through your team. Go through your teams you all played, and then you're gonna see, like, there's gonna be, like, seven to nine people that's a walk-on. That's a thing now.

That's what I said. They're going young. Practice players. There's so many people are leaving. Just what I said. They going young. Practice players. There's so many people are leaving. Just practice players. They going young. They don't... Having like three groups now.

But I was like, yo, hey, they just got a lot of people on here. It's like, oh yeah, that's our walk-ons now. How many of y'all got? Like a practice squad. They got nine. Goddamn. The practice squad is a part of that roster. Yeah.

So those are the guys that pull out the... You know when y'all sit in the car, they pull out the chairs. They're the ones that, you know, keep the huddle. Like, it's a thing now. Wow. Walk-ons? Yeah. Unlimited?

Unli- they got, it's unlimited now. Do they get a chance to practice, though? Yeah, they practice. That's what they do. If I didn't get a chance, if I didn't get a chance, if I didn't get a chance, I'd go somewhere. I feel like I could get some buses. So like, rosters now got like, what, 18, 19 kids.

Do they travel? That's like a football team. They travel? They like football. Do they get the money, too? Like, the NIL money? Nah, it's walk-in. Remember when you walk on, you don't get no perks.

They probably got NIL, but they don't get no perks. It's a free Panda Express. Yeah, you get a jumpsuit. Yeah, I was like, crazy. I mean, it's cool for morale. It's cool for morale, but... I don't. Yeah, I was like crazy. I mean, it's cool for morale. It's cool for morale, but... I don't like it. I don't know.

College. That's a bad thing. One of them was really nice, though. Next, somebody spots. Who's next? Take somebody's spot. Who's next? Come on up.

Next, come on up. It just worked. Go tell your son and your daughter. Next, go tell your mama, too. Everybody can get it. Let's get to an important conversation The shorter create some conversation amongst his couch So to the league's most exciting stars in the 25 and under category put the league on notice last night Lamella ball had a smooth 44 points to go along with nine rebounds of seven assists against the Magic

Lamella was averaging 43 points per game over his last three games. And in the Western Conference, Ja Morant returned to the lineup for the Grizzlies after missing eight games with a hip injury. Ja is back. 12 back. 12 back. Bacow!

Ja dropped 22 and 11 dimes, going 6 for 12 from the field, 2 for 3 from deep, and a win over the Blazers. But this brings me to my question. Who would you rather build around, LaMelo Ball or Ja Morant? Mm. Mm.

Ja. I'm going Ja. I'm going both. I have a question. You can just close your eyes and pick for me. I don't know. I have a question. Close your eyes and pick for me.

What is the difference between LaMelo and Trae Young? Six, seven. Just a sign. Just a sign. Six, seven. Six, seven. John Moran, 25 years old right now. Trae Young was LaMelo ballsop. This old man. So people don't like Trae Young because he's short? No, people don't like Trae Young because of what he did to the coach.

He's short and he's good. He's short and he's good. I don't understand. It's like the Westbrook, right? Yeah. How they played against him, he probably talks a lot of shit while he's good. I don't understand. It's like the Westbrook, right? Yeah. How they play together, he probably talks a lot of shit while he's playing. You know, like you talk to an NBA player,

they pre-Madonna. I thought it was after what he did to the coach. He got the coach fired and everybody started talking. Now they've been hating him. It was a different type of hate. Because yes, he's little, but he still gets the numbers. So I'm just like, at this point,

as much as everyone is... Brandon, he just says Brandon....losing their minds over LaMelo, which I'm just like, at this point, as much as everyone is... Brandon, he just says Brandon. He's making their minds over LaMelo, which I'm a LaMelo ball fan, but I'm also a Trey Young fan. I don't understand. Oh, yeah, you bring that up, they just act like Trey is... Who's more of a team player? Neither of them.

We don't know. Trey. Trey made it through the conference. Trey, they got to the playoffs. This is when there's just certain people that you just don't like, right? Rudy Goldberg, right? Has nothing to do with them. You just look at him.

He says, I don't like him. He needs a great PR that makes him look different in the world eyes. Well, now he's Jordan Brand. You think that's going to help him? No, he just needs his own personal PR that can just spin better narratives because right now... His narrative is crazy. Like right now, when they start voting...

That's why I hate it. When they vote most hated, he's won every time. It sucks so bad. I don't believe it. He has to spin the narrative. But if people work now because of how they're hyping up LaMelo, they're not winning. But if a motherfucker hates the way you play, it's a compliment.

Like, I'm looking at y'all like, yeah. You're fucking up my money. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You're fucking up my money. They hate the last name. No, no, like, before,

like, what people thought about you before didn't matter because a max player is a max player, right? There was no make all NBA to be a max player. You're just the best player on the team, you're max. Now that shit affects player, right? There was no make all NBA to be a max player.

You're just the best player on the team. You're max. Now that shit affects me, right? So if you're not voting for me for all-star because you don't like me personally or you're not voting for me all NBA because you don't like me money,

that means I am not making my super max money. I'm not the $300 million player. You're sitting me right here with regular ass all-stars. There's a lot of reasons, too. So 220, I'm not the $300 million player. You're sitting me right here with regular-ass All-Stars. There's a lot of reasons, too. So, 220, I'm not a 220 player. Also, he came in with Luka.

It don't matter. He's gonna put Luka up there and put Stray down. That's not it. It is. I don't think that. Can I tell you what's it? Oklahoma. No. And I got Nate Favre. Let me think about it. Think about it. He went to Oklahoma. He did. He was at Oklahoma.

Who was he playing like at Oklahoma? Curry, Steph. Steph Curry. So the bad stigma on him ain't got nothing to do with Luka or none of that. It has everything to do with who he's compared to. Nah, because at first he came in love. No. Yeah, he came in love. He came in love.

Why? That's what I'm saying. What happened? Let me tell you why. He came in love because He came in love. Why? That's what I'm saying. What happened? Let me tell you why. It was after the Nate McMillan thing. He came in love because he played like Steph. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. There was a time where he became the most hated.

Because we tired of seeing this mimic. Steph doing Steph, we need you to be you. I say it was after the Nate McMillan thing. No, it was before that. I blame him. No, because when he went to the Eastern Conference Finals, people liked him. Yeah, the ice train, he came.

No, that's what started fucking with him. That was a good hate. No, it wasn't a good hate. And then the next year, they blamed him for all type of stuff on the team. But that didn't stop his production. That didn't stop his production. So that ain't a real narrative. That's something we hear amongst conversations.

Think about how big we push a circle to be. A circle is not the world. It's just a couple people having a conversation. If you push this narrative, it's going to stick. But it ain't stuff. It's just more competition. That New York series probably messed up his... No.

That helped him, I thought. I thought that helped him. No, not in the media's eyes all the media's New York once he Came with Came near and then he got the coaches stuff fire. Oh, that's when it started to wire players hating on him It's because they got out. They got a little He's he was the most overrated most. He was the most overrated, most hated. He's voted most overrated and most hated every year. Look, his swag is off a little bit. The man averaged 29.9.

He made an all-star his second year. That's what I'm saying. He was loved. Yeah, he averaged 29.9 as his second year. Second year player, 29.9. It's his swag. That's incredible. He's his swag and what a face. That's incredible.

He's still wearing V-neck t-shirts. And after that, I think the swagger. That matters because I walk in the arena with a V-neck on with a bus puppy.

And I bust your ass. Now what? That matters. And I bust your ass then what? But then Kyle Kuzma walking in with a trash bag is cool.

Because we don't expect that from Kyle Kuzma. That's it. It's the trash. It's the same thing as Russell. His swag is it. It's the trash. It's the same thing as Russell. His swag is trash. It's the Russell. It's the Russell.

I'm talking to you in real time. You trash here, that. I don't see that from him. Players don't like it. I don't see that from him. But that's what he does. He has his ice tray. But that's why nobody likes him.

But that's why he's not doing it because he feels like it's really fucking him up. He's trying to. I don't think it's that. I just don't get it now. You're talking about a man who made the All-Star. 29, 25, 28, 26, 25, 21. Look what happened after he got the coach fire. Double, double every year.

Look what happened after he got the coach fire. Nothing happened. Look at what the stories came out. No stories came out. The stories before. No stories came out. All right, look it up. He's the reason this happened.

The team is falling apart. Nobody want him. All that type of shit. He wasn't making the All-Stars. He didn't even show up. He wasn't making the All-Star anyway. The coach told him something. He didn't show up to the game.

They were doing what they're doing. Have we seen this before? Have we seen this before? Same thing they're doing to MB. MB's going to be next. But we've seen players go through what Trey Young going through before. But MB gets his accolades. He's getting his accolades. And he's getting All-Stars going through. But MB gets his accolades. He getting his accolades.

And he's getting all stars. This man ain't getting his accolades. Not this year he's not. Oh, yeah. This year he's not. For the last seven years. That's what I'm talking about. It's his second year.

I'm talking about that year. So after this year, if we continue this shit, we're going to be talking about him in a negative way like we do everybody else. But, yeah, because he's not available. 22-23. Let me find out. Trey Young is available. He ain't made nothing. He ain't made nothing.

26-10. 26-10. Because he's not available. 22, 23, let me find out. Trae Young is available. He ain't made nothing. He ain't made nothing. 26 and 10. 26 and 10. He's averaging 22 and 12 right now. 26 and 10. Crickets. And it's crickets. 26 and 10.

Once the narrative gets spent on you in a negative light, it's hard to say that's true. You know I know that. I know that. I know that. Y'all know this. Nate McMillan was fired around... So why is that like it's something that... I know that. Nate McMillan was fired around...

Why you think I said he needs his own specialty that can push a better narrative? Nate McMillan was fired around the All-Star break in the 22-23 season, so about February 21st, 2023. But it feels like the Trey Hayden slander was going on before that. Before that, yeah. I feel like it started with the Trey Steph comparisons,

like you said, but that even spilled over to the league. What year was this? 2023. Yeah. What? 22, 23? Yeah, but February 2023. It was once they traded for Murray.

And everybody was saying, Trey, Trey Young, keep Murray, all that type of shit. Yeah, because everybody started hating him. That year with Nate McMillan. Before that, he was hating me. No, that year. He just went to the Eastern Conference Final. How are you going to hate him then?

It was a good hate. It was like right after. The next season, they lost, and then the next season started. Who did he play? Do you like Trae Young? No. Okay. It don't.

Okay. If New York is one of the biggest meccas of basketball. And they hate you. And they hate you, it's a big thing. Yeah, they don't hate anybody. Unlike Steph, Steph is, like, they're coming to see great basketball. Yeah, that's tough.

Trey became an enemy of the state. They had a parade for him when he broke that shit in the garden. He busted his ass. But that's the problem. He bust their him when he broke that shit in the garden. He was crazy. But that's the problem. He bust their ass in a fashion that they didn't like.

We love watching basketball, but we don't like it. We don't like you. We don't like what you're doing. You're making us look bad. And who's from New York that does ESPN and all that shit

that was talking crazy about him? Talking crazy about him. You pushed him in. Talking crazy. And once they had a story to push for him. What are you? Are you listening to what I'm push What are you listening to?

Are you listening to what I'm saying? What did I say? I said, who is the media? They're New Yorkers, right? When he did that to New York, they hated him. New York hated him. New York hated him. And those media personalities are spreading

the hate. They're the biggest. So this was before Nate McMillan. Oh, that happened after Nate McMillan. No, it didn't. I'm talking about when he started getting hated. I liked it. No, what he's saying is the nigga was on every feed. The narrative was out. The narrative was out before Nate McMillan.

It was just another thing on fire. It was just the tip of the iceberg. That was it. It spilled over after that. Anyway, my point is the way that they talk about LaMelo is great. Thank you, Lexi. I love that they're uplifting his style of play because he's entertaining, he's fun,

he's got a great personality. I was just like, what the fuck? This conversation shifted to Trae Young. The initial point of the conversation was, who would you rather build around, LaMelo or Ja? Nick, you said both. That's not an answer. Pick one, close your eyes.

Rashad, you said Ja. Lexi not an answer. Pick one. Close your eyes. Rashad, you said Ja. Um... Lexi, who... L.A. Melo or Ja Morant? Both potential future Lakers. Can't go wrong. I'm going LaMelo, because I like that he shoots the ball. Okay. Well... LaMelo, 23 years old. Ja Morant, 25 years old. I mean, I don't think there's a wrong choice, but...

I'm gonna go with LaMelo. Wow, good one. The style of play I prefer is LaMelo's. Why are you picking LaMelo over Ja? I'm going Ja, damn. I mean... I disagree. I mean, Ja's a special talent, right? You can't mimic it.

I'm going Ja. I'm going Ja, for sure. The aura's crazy, but when it comes to LaMelo, like we see it in high school, his cap of what he can do, Mora's crazy, but when it comes to LaMelo, like we see it in high school, his cap of what he can do, like he showed us, he can literally put 92. Like, I don't care how he got 92, he can literally put 92.

That means his scoring range is crazy. In a high school basketball game. As a guy who's a passer, right? So I'm going to take a guy who has this ability. Like when people say, well, they just force fed him, and he scored 92. Like I don't care how you use it. The ability to score 92 is in your realm. In a 32-minute high school basketball game with high school refs, as you all know, extremely jankanky. So I'm gonna take the guy who have this biggest range.

And you just throw the ball half court, take out the rim. He stayed down court, you throw it to him, he lay up, take him down. But he's hitting threes too. He shot threes, hellmakers, three people on him. Like 92 points is 92 points. Shout out to him. Like what he's doing right now, there's nobody surprised. That's what he's capable of.

Right? He's capable of that. Like if he wants to say, I'm just going to be a score, I'm going to be a score. Now, if you put him on a better team and say, we need you to get 10 assists.

I'm not saying in a 10th seed on my career. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm about to say. That's what I'm about to say. So, what was the question? Who's the better point guard?

Come to Los Angeles. L.A. Mellow. Who do you want to build your team around? Ja. Yeah. So, out of both of them, who's the winner? Ja. Ja. What's the college he took to? Well, Mellow. Who do you want to build your team around? Ja. Yeah. So out of both of them, who's the winner?

Ja. Ja. What's the college he took to? Well, Mellow hasn't even had a... Who team is better? Exactly. Who team is better? Who team is better?

Who team is better? Who team is better? Ja made... Who team is better? Ja made Bane a goddamn 200 millionaire. Bane. A 200 millionaire. A stiff neck.

He walked around like this, stiff neck. He got 200. Wait, no. Yeah, I'm just saying. 200 came because Ja was hurt. A stiff neck. He walked around like this. Stiff neck. He got 200. 200 came because Ja was hurt. No, no. When they went to the tournament against all right, that makes it like a crazy. It was number one in the West. That was number one.

Because remember when Ja got the half player. Ja got most approved. He got most approved and gave it to Bang. But then remember that whole time Ja was out, everyone was like, oh, maybe they're better without Ja. Yeah, but he got his money during that year. We had to push a narrative.

Yeah, I hated that narrative. It was a stupid narrative. It was defamation. We apologize. You have him, then you have an all-star. You got him, right? Then you have a defensive player of the year on your team, right? Ja's team Right? Then you have a defensive player of the year on your team. Who?

Who? Two of them. Josh's team is better. You got two defensive players of the year on your team. What I'm saying is Josh's team is just better. There's nobody on Charlotte that we're like, oh, you're a great number two guy. Okay, so who they got now? Miller.

Miller. Miller can't get there. Miles Bridget was an all-star, right? Who? Miles Bridget. Was he an all-star, right? He was an all-star one year. He was an all-star. Before, I'm not going to, I don't want to talk about all that, but he was.

I don't know if he was ever an all-star. Let me see. He averaged 20-something. He did average 20-something. He was not an all-star, though. Never been an all-star. I don't know, an all-star. Close, close, close enough.

But they was picking, and they picked me up. You say 17 a game and get your all-star, so it's cool. He averaged 20. By your measure. He had a 21 last year. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he played pretty well last year. They had Gordon Hayward one time, too, right?

Yeah. Gordon Hayward been trashed, Charlie. I mean, since... Now he's trashed. No, no, no, no, no. Since Utah, brother. I thought he retired like seven years ago. It's not bad.

I mean, I'm not... Come on, man. So y'all saying Ja has a better team? So you picking Ja? You picking La No, Jha has a better team. It's not bad. I mean, I'm not... Come on, man. Man, one has a better team. So y'all saying Jha has a better team, so you picking Jha... You picking LaMelo because Jha has a better team? No, I'm picking LaMelo because I can style a play better.

It ain't that far off. One is the number one seed. So you telling me I can take Jaron Jack and Adams to number one? And you can't take Miles Bridges and Gordon Hayward and this dude to the ninth seed?

That's not the question. It is the question. Who would you build your franchise with? And I picked the bellow. Yeah, you're going to lose because they picked them and they've been losing. No, no, no, no, that's not how that works. They picked me and they already had them. When we're starting a team, I'm first.

I'm the first player. And then you build around me. the first around these they were here already what I'm saying is we're starting you got the first pick there's you don't got a team yet I was would select Lomelo. Picking Lomelo. Because my second pick, if I get a score, he could be a point guard. How has that worked out with you picking?

You picked Lomelo at number one. His bucket's on me. You're Charlotte. What have you done since you picked him? Yeah, see, that's the problem. We've been hurt a lot. One, I came already half way. Why would you start franchising the guy who's been hurt a lot?

What I'm saying, I have 14 players here before him. I've also been hurt. I What I'm saying I have 14 players here before him I couldn't erase them and then start fresh. I already had already had my team but your team now knows to get in the ball The trash I got to keep my little buckets are not impactful I know it is impactful. The motherfucker who's guarding them is impactful. He ain't sleeping good. The last three defenders didn't have a good night-night. And they got their ass pushed.

They went out. We still looking like Charlotte, trash. They went out. They went right out after. Charlotte, trash. That's going to play good, though. That's going to play good. There's always a defender on that other end They went right after all it trash There's always a defender on that other year that had a horrible day

If you like you to highlight go and get metal you get some endorsements Me wanna make a run Make a run with Jah and I'm'm going to have the same thing. And I got a killer. And I got a killer. I got a shooter. I don't go off for the better. I'm sorry. Shooter.

I got a shooter with Nike. Y'all are going off for who has the better team. So that's how we only know Jah for winning. No, we're going off for who has the better player. Because his team is good. He has an all-star. I don't care. I don't know what he's going to look like with a bad team.

I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling with you. I'm going off of the board for Jaren Jackson. I'm not rolling with Jaren Jackson being a staple on the team. I don't care what you say. She's trying to say Jaren Jackson is a real, like, goalie. A real all-star. He is. He is an all-star.

He is. He was an all-star. He was an all-star game averaging what? How much he averaged? He was. Average. How much he averaged? I know, step-man. How much he averaged? He was. Average. How much he averaged? I know, Statman.

How much he averaged? Them. Damn. Okay, Nicky, dude. Tone it down. I go wrong. He's averaging 23. Right now?

Yeah. Because nobody else, but I'm talking about the year he made it. The year he made it, yeah. He playing with guys. Defensive player of the year, All-Star, he averaged 18 and 7.

19. Three blocks a game. He just said All-Star came in. Led to live with three blocks a game. Defensive player of-stars came in. Led the lead with three blocks a game. All-stars, defensive player of the year. Give LaMelo one of those. What is an all-star? We don't know.

He made it for being number one. For a big. Made it for being number one. 18 and 7, he made an all-star. That's what I said. What's the name? Make one. The Cleveland Cavaliers.

He made a big one, yeah. That's what I said. He has a better chance of making it. Defensive player of the year. He made it for being number one. Yeah, post-flip-flip player it here he made it he does a better year Well, that's that's even better assessment for what he's saying It's cuz Jared Jackson ain't a real all-star if Mobley can get in there at 17, you know, I'm telling you this well It's the same kind of thing

Absolutely get in but like who are they gonna leave out what LaMelo is doing right now is Exactly what it should look like around the league When you have a star... Jaron Jackson Jr. averages what? Eight. 23. And what does Mobley average? Eight.

17. Now, what does Mal Bridges average? Currently, 20. 20. He's not even in the consideration of being an all-star. And he's averaging more than Jaron Jackson Jr. He's averaging more than Jaron Jackson Jr. He's averaging more than Jaron Jackson Jr. He's averaging 16 this year.

Who? Jaron Jackson Jr. Miles Bridges. Yeah, but Jaron Jackson Jr. is not... He's only averaging 16 this year. Who? 16 and what? 16 and...

He probably went down because he missed last year. 16, 17, and 3. Miles Bridges. He's been off last year. No, no, no. He averaged 21 last year, though. The person that should be mad is Fox about all this shit. All of them. Listen, just like whoever's on portals, that's what I'm saying.

Fox is a bonus to be mad. What LaMelo's doing is exactly how basketball was played back in the day. No, it wasn't. When your team's sorry, the star just shoot the ball. Stop passing it to these badass players, right? Stop passing it to them for them to just chuck shots up. The star player, you take all the shots. There's a reason Michael Jordan didn't pass it

to motherfucking B.J. Armstrong and Tony Colt. Why would I build my franchise around that? Yeah. If I want to win. Mm. No, no, y'all, you had them before me. That's why I got this. I just asked you a question. No, no, no, what I'm saying is... I'm just asking, why would I build my franchise around,

I'm just gonna shoot a bunch of shots and just, you know... No, no, no, what I'm... Just treat it like we sorry. No, no, no. I'm just asking. Why would I build my franchise around, I'm just going to shoot a bunch of shots and just, you know, just treat it like we sorry. No, no, no. Because y'all are sorry. You can't say champion. But we've got you to make us not sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We brought you in to make us not sorry. You're good. But you got a sorry-ass mentality that you're going to come here and shoot. No, no, no. That's wrong. But he passed it to him. No, that's...

AI made us do it. That's the problem. AI did it. Ain't nobody even supposed to do this. Remember, y'all got the third pick for a reason. AI did it. Right? You picked me because your team sucked.

Right? Now, I'm here. I'm showing you what you do. You start getting rid of some of this trash and build around me. Right now, y'all build around whoever was there before. That's how it works. Right? Remember Jordan?

When he got there, it was a bunch of cokeheads. Then he was like, oh, shit, he averaged a 37? You got to get rid of these motherfuckers. Bring them in, bring them out, and you build a dynasty. That's what happened. Jordan averaged 37. Jordan averaged 37. Why?

Because everybody else was motherfuckers. So basically, they got to get rid of Melo then. It's a hell of a drug, Gil. They got to rid of Mello then. It's a hell of a drug, Gil. They got to get rid of Mello. It's a hell of a drug. They got Brandon Miller. They got Brandon Miller, the number what? Number two?

Number three pick? Number two pick? So now it's us two? It's the same thing. So they got to get rid of Mello. Now it's us two? No, no. No, ain't no just us two.

You brought me in because these niggas are bad. You brought me in. I'm the first guy. It's our new guy. You brought me in. I'm here. on the first time. This our new guy. You brung me in. I'm here. Every year, you just bring somebody new in. Then you bring in a younger guy.

Then you bring in Brandon. Now it's us two. Then you're going to get rid of somebody else to bring up. Now we have our trio. That's how it works, son. And that is why it's trash. OK. That's why it works.

You remember Boston? They had the number two pick. Right, they had the number three pick, got Jalen. We got Jalen. Then we got Tatum. Right? How did it get to the team? They had Kyrie.

And they liked Tatum. Yeah. Hayward, Kyrie, all of them. Who came first? Who came first? Marcus Smart. Who came first? Who came first?

Marcus Smart? Jay Brown, right? The team was trash. That's how they got them. No, they wasn't trash. It wasn't trash. IC was there. They wasn't trash.

IC was there. What are you talking about? IC was there. They were really good. They were good when they got Tatum. IC was there. When they got Tatum. It was his rookie year.

Yeah. His rookie year. They were good. And who came next? They were good already. That was like a weird situation that they got lucky with. It was. Because Kyrie was there.

No. No, you mean like when Aydell Thomas was there? His rookie year. Isaiah was balling. Because I remember in the documentary he was like, I don't want to go to Boston because I'm not going to play. Yep. He didn't start until Gordon Henry was broken.

What year was that? What year was that? 2001. Yep. And then they drafted Jason. They been good. 2000 what? When? What year was that? 2001. Yep. And then they drafted Jason. They been good. 2000 what?

When did Kyrie go there? 2000? He was good, Gil. He dunked on LeBron. He dunked on LeBron. Why are you bringing up Oshie? 2015 what? What year was that?

I don't think Boston's a good example. That was the year we won. I think six. They got like... That was the year we won. That was the year we won. That was the year we won, Gil. That was the year I won. Okay, so 2015-16 team. 17-18. Jay Crowder. That was a year we won. That was a year we won. That was a year we won. That was a year we won. That was a year we won.

Okay, so 2015-16 team. 17-18. Jay Crowder. Who's the best player here? Terry Rozier? They were fifth in the East though. Terry Rozier. Yep, scary Terry.

That's it. Scary Terry. Oh, Isaiah Thomas. So Isaiah Thomas. They were fifth in the East and they were first in the East. So Jayden Brown's not there yet. Nope. Next year.

So Jayden Brown is not there yet. Nope. Next year. So Jayden Brown is not there yet. But they weren't there. 16, 17. They drafted Jayden Brown, right? So you got Scary Terry. Gerald Green, right? He's older. So they got Jayden Brown, right?

So they got a cornerstone guy. Then 17, 18, they got Jason Tatum. So they got Jason. So Jason Tatum and Kyrie came together. That was his first year? Yeah. Kyrie. And Gordon Hayward.

And they all came together. But they were first in the East the previous season. They were first the year before that. They was number one before that. That's what we're saying. So you guys are trying to judge them. They were number one. You got drafted into a team that was not good.

No Jason Tatum. No Jalen Brown. I don't know how that tied into a team that was not Jason Tatum that Jalen Brown I don't know how that's high. We're number one is talking about They got or build a they had to get as far as I think it builds around you guys are saying they brought in Brandon Miller cuz Melo not getting the job done. No, no, why would you're added or added to two three years? There's not a star who Brandon Miller? No, he's up. Is that So you're saying bring in a star, but that's not a stupid Jordan Right, then everybody like we heated went to Pippen. That's why they got and we blame the guys who are

Building around that guy who's being built around because the guy who's been built around don't got no say about It after Brandon your facts But he did my second option get off ball. Whoa he's the second year player. Give me the ball. Every time. I can't judge Brandon right now until I gotta see what he do two, four years from now. Exactly. I'm not building around a franchise. I gotta wait around to see my results when I can go get jobs. But everybody else did it. But everybody's done it. Instantly. Get me there instantly. Everybody's done it, though. So we asked the chat,

who would you rather build around? LaMelo Ball or John Morant? 60% said LaMelo Ball. He got the pop of the boat. L.A. Mello. L.A. Mello. Can you say we can't call him Mello anymore? We can call him L.A. Mellow. L.A. Mellow. I'll take the L.A. Mellow. Can you say, we can't call him Mellow anymore? We can call him L.A. Mellow.

L.A. Mellow. Because that is his name. We win. It's okay, Chad. Chad, go do better. We win. Accountability. But we got to wrap this thing up.

Accountability. Hey, hold up. We didn't do it first. Joss' first year, 33 and 34. Who? Joss' first year. Yeah, 33 and 34. The record? Yeah. And what was the second? Who was on the Yeah, 33 and 34. The record?

Yeah. And what was the second? Who was on the team, though? Oh, you want to see that team? Are we doing that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to see that team?

Yeah. Don't we have teams? Yeah. See who's on the team. Jay Crowder, Jaron Jackson. Damn, they had Jaron Jackson already. Thank you. Dylan Brooks, Jonah.

He had a good team. Huh? Dylan Brooks was a good team. Grayson Allen. They all was wicked. They came in together like that. Brooks was fucking a second-round pick or something like that. Yeah. And Jan Jacks like that.

That's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, this conversation is going to come down to what? It makes even more sense. It makes even more sense. For me, it's threes. I like shooting, so I'm going to pick LaMelo. They build it better than Charlotte. If they all came in together.

I know they do. They build it better than Charlotte. If they all came in together. I know they started off better than Charlotte. If they all came in together and we got the number one spot in three years. Whoever your preference is, whoever your preference is, they're both going to be exciting players to watch in the future. But that is our show for today. Appreciate

everybody in the house. Thank you all for making the macaroni and cheese. You're welcome. For our challenge. You're welcome. Appreciate you Lex, appreciate you Swaggy, thank you all for making the macaroni and cheese. You're welcome. For our challenge. Yes, everyone. You're welcome. Appreciate you, Lex. Appreciate you, Swaggy. Appreciate you, Cemetery Larry. We're going to let Shawty Gill keep doing her thing.

Talk about it after the show. Jamerant rookie year was what? 2018, 19? 18, 19. 18, 19? Yeah, so they won 11. They came the same as Zion. And they lost the next year because he got hurt.

Who won 43 games? 2019. 19, 20. On the island. They came in same as Zion. And they lost the next year because he got hurt. Who won 43 games? Who's that? 2019, 1920. On the island. Was this Ricky? See, that's a great, they made a great transition. Dirty year. Mike Conley from Mike Conley. Dirty, but yeah.

Casal and all them. Mike Conley named Dylan Brooks. So Dylan Brooks is already there. Tarik Evans. Oh yeah, Brooks came in 18. Macklemore, Parsons. He came in 18. Yeah, see, they just had a bunch of motherfuckers on the roster. Yeah. Brooks came in 18. Macklemore, Parsons. He came in 18. Yeah, see they just had a bunch of motherfuckers on the roster.

Yeah. Brooks came in 18. I forgot he came in 18. But we appreciate everybody in the chat pulling up with us. I gotta use the bathroom. I know you do. That's why we rapping this thing early. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.

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