Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena GETS Real On LeBron & The Lakers' COLD Streak

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

Gil's Arena GETS Real On LeBron James & The Los Angeles Lakers' COLD Streak as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the Lakers' worrisome loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves last night where LeBron James continued to not look like himself and JJ Redick finds himself with the same record that Darvin Ham had last year through 21 games. They break down who is as fault for this Lakers' losing skid and discuss if there are any moves out there that allow the Lakers to get back into the championship race, highlighting potential trades for Jimmy Butler or Zach Lavine. Next, they take a look at the NBA MVP Race where Nikola Jokic looks to be the favorite to capture his 4th MVP award despite the Denver Nuggets' struggles this season and Jayson Tatum still can't get enough love for being the best player on the NBA leading Boston Celtics. Then, they break down ESPN's top 25 NBA players under 25 where Victor Wembanyama & Anthony Edwards headline the future of NBA Superstars and LaMelo Ball's disrespectful ranking fires up the Gil's Arena Crew. Finally, Gil & The Crew react to the electric showdown between the OKC Thunder and Houston Rockets where Alpren Sengun, Fred VanVleet and the young Rockets proved themselves as a legit threat to the top of the Western Conference. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 To get $15 off your first order and find out if Ro Sparks are right for you, go to https://ro.co/ARENA Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:00 Kareem Re-Opens The Rings vs $$$ Debate 0:07:42 Breaking Down Rashad's HATRED Of LeBron 0:14:39 Alijah Arena Reclassifies 0:18:32 Swaggy vs Gil vs Mr. B In Madden 0:25:39 Timberwolves Beat The Brakes Off The Lakers 0:27:33 LeBron's Cold Streak 0:39:38 The Lakers' Biggest Problem 0:44:09 NBA MVP Ladder 0:47:15 What Does Tatum Need To For More MVP Love? 0:56:47 Who Is More of Killer...MJ, Kobe or LeBron? 1:15:47 ESPNs Top 25 Under 25 1:25:16 Training Advice to Zion 1:38:03 Wemby's Perfect Fit With CP3 1:45:48 Houston Rockets SHOCK The Thunder 1:58:36 MostlyFans 2:13:00 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There you are, pushing your newborn baby in a stroller through the park. The first time out of the house in weeks. You have your Starbucks, then tea, because, you know, sleep deprivation. You meet your best friend, she asks you how it's going, you immediately begin to laugh. Then cry, then laugh-cry, that's totally normal, right? She smiles, you hug, there's no one else you'd rather share this with. You know, three and a half hours sleep is more than enough. Starbucks, it's never just coffee.

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Let's clap about our say woo-woo about today. Ain't no woo-woo for today. Ain't no woo-woo for today? What's going on, Nick? I ain't fucking with this, Nick. You got beat. 100 off the top.

A new show record. A new show record. So before the show, we were talking about each other's baby pictures. And Nick and Gil have some thoughts on them. Man, I'm classy. Look at that. Look at that.

I'm classy. We got the baby picture. Yeah, good. Oh, man. They look like Kurt Franklin, son. Little Kurt. Little Dino. Lexi, you're on the Celtics court.

We'll forgive you for it. I know. That's crazy. It wasn't your choice. Just blessed. Indoctrinated at birth. Yeah. Celtics, OK.

Mr. B, OK. How you living? Yeah, I don't know why. Mr. 1C, 1C, OK. I don't know how he got a clear picture, man. For real, that's right. Like, his AI. The AK baby pic. His picture look like 2024.

He look like his came from 1955. Look at yours. Mine looks 90s. Yeah, that's 90s. Yeah. I'm like, you about 82. Anybody questioning why I love the Celtics so much? 2007, I mean 1979. Nah.

Ghetto streets and the. They said you hurt your knee, Crip Walker, to that new Kendrick. True or false? Celebrating my new one beast, Madden. One what? One B in Madden. You know what I'm talking about

When I was whooping your ass out of there you was mad so ever They could be on his knees Praying to God Lie to me anyway talking about the the surgery wasn't going to hurt. That shit hurt. The surgery hurt? Yes. Or did it hurt after? Right at the same time.

When I woke up, the shit was hurting. They didn't put a number in it? Yeah, whatever. Oh, he forgot. He ain't got NBA insurance no more, man. They ain't give him the Novick. dang number my man is nothing three four five hours Man watch out The reflexes hurting more than actually you're gonna stop playing with me over here it is gonna be a turn yeah all the muscles tense stuff

Yeah, watch out, but this is sit over there shit Yeah, please help me get through this This is gills arena presented by underdog as always we got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us We got every a champion of the world swaggy Pete Nick Young, back on the couch. Fresh off surgery. On this side of the couch, representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B, Brandon Janney. Bucks looking good.

Yeah. Bucks at six. Man, I ain't been here in a minute. We missed you. It's a lot been going on. They in six place? No, Bucks at six. There's a lot been going on. They in six bucks? No, bucks and six, Justin. Oh.

It's my though. My bad. And we got WNBA champion of the world, Lexi Brown back with us. OK, styling. The comfy shoes. Yeah. Yeah, I got these on TikTok.

Really? TikTok shop. OK. You got a shop on TikTok now? Mm-hmm. They got all types of stuff on there. They do, bruh. They getting the gift.

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Ah, the Lakers had the lowest scoring game for any team in the league this season, and their loss to the Wolves. Is Father Time finally ready to run the fade with LeBron? We hope not. The Lakers had the lowest scoring game for any team in the league this season in their loss to the Wolves. Is father time finally ready to run the fade with LeBron? We hope not. Fight back, Bron. Fight back, please.

Run the fade. You know, a solid 80. It was, you know, some technical difficulties. Technical difficulties. You know. We had to keep looking like, man, is the game over? Playing some retro ball. We got one more quarter.

Playing some retro ball. I ain't fucking with Bron right now. Also the lowest in LeBron's Laker era but unfortunate. Still double figures though. For everybody trying to rub it in. Haters in the building. Okay take your victory lap now. It won't last long. Jokers on pace to become the third player in league history to average a triple double but how much should the Nuggets' team struggles impact his standing in the MVP race? And ESPN released their top 25 players under 25. Well, which players on the list have the brightest future in the league? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GILL.

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Last day of group play in-season tournament tonight. Salute to everybody. It's still in Vegas, right? Vegas for the semis and finals. And as a reminder, Lakers... Hey, you remember that big debate about championships for $300 million? Mm-hmm.

Gil, don't bring up old shit, please. No, I was just wondering, can I ask Kareem which one does he... which one would he pick right now? So, last year, Kareem auctioned off a bunch of items, MVP trophies, NBA rings, $2.8 million. The championship rings? It was for charity, though.

It was to help the community. 2.8 mil. You're helping the world, Kareem. What, did you? He could have done that. Kareem ain't broke. No, no, no, no more. Why would you auction off your rings?

Because they don't mean shit. You win a bunch of them, they just become Mike's legacy? When you need shit. They don't mean nothing when you need it. He needs it? He don't need the money. No, I said they don't mean nothing when you need something. Like they don't, they don't.

Dude, I just want, just ask him would he rather have it. He's with the charity though. Right, right, he don't get nothing. Oh, I know. Would you rather have, I just want them to ask him, for a man who sold his championship rings and everything that he reached and accomplished, what would he rather have today? The honorable Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

He still has the championship. I know. He don't have the hardware. Yeah. I mean, what is it that he don't have? I know. Man of the people. Huh?

He doesn't have? I know. Man of the people. 300 million. Huh? Huh? He doesn't have $300 million. What does he need 300 million for at that age? Right? He played in the 70s and 80s. He didn't get no bread back then. He don't need too much at that age. Yeah.

I mean, his name alone can get him anywhere he wants to in the world. Exactly. Right. So my impact. Right. So my impact. So it's not about my... I don't need 300 million.

My impact can get me anywhere. So I don't need that. He told you that the legacy that people keep talking about really means nothing because it's sold. No, no, his legacy is his impact.

That's why... He told me my legacy is... My legacy is solidified. He sold your legacy, which means it's... No, no, I can still go anywhere in the world. No, no, no.

When we talk about these things, we can't talk about, like, the Kareems and... We got to talk about, like, players that are on the team. No, but what I'm When we talk about these things, we can't talk about the Kareems. We got to talk about players that are on the team. No, but what I'm saying is either your legacy is sold early for money today, or it seems like it's sold later for survival. Either way, it's sold. It was for charity.

I get what you're trying to do, but we know what it was really for. No, no. What is it for? Is he broke? No, he's not broke. He played in the 70s. But he played for the Lakers still. Great actor.

Actor, all that. His name alone. His name alone. His name alone. Money didn't really kick into the NBA until like the late 90s, to be honest. So for the most of those guys, I mean, if they're selling items, it's not because that they mismanaged money. They just, they didn't make it like we made it.

No, but... So you calling the broke boys? He can go anywhere he want to make some money right now. He can go ESPN and make some money. His name alone. The underdog right now makes some money. He could. I'm just saying.

He don't need it. You can't say he sold them rings for money. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling them rings for money. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling with Kareem. I'm not either. I'm not either. He got to come out and say that. He got to come out and say it. You can't be disrespecting basketball's goat, Gil. He can kick the shit out you too. He done seen it.

The goat of basketball, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Yeah. What made you bring that up, Gil? I'm going to go Bruce Lee's ass. Because I just see it. Because you know he got injured. He's been broke his hip to some like that The guy shot out career pull up to the arena and slap the shit out of you. We didn't have Kareem got NBA insurance

Kareem has NBA insurance But they got why you didn't like us The 90s don't even have the insurance we have. But they're added to it now, though. The insurance I have, these boys don't got it. His insurance is better than my insurance. What you talking about? They ain't got insurance now. No, they don't got insurance to say.

No, they don't, brother. It's in their retirement. Yeah, when do you think that retirement's done? Your daddy's insurance is the same as mine. No, I'm joking. My dad not fucking with y'all Daddy insurance the same as ours doctor you go into his car getting his other good Say the same man You got no liquor issues man

Right if you get a liquor job you gotta fight Jake Paul now They got Lakers. Man, listen. They got Lakers. They got Lakers. Listen, whatever happens, I know he's going out the right way, right? He didn't even get a Laker job. He got to fight Jake Paul now. He can't get any job he want. Listen, I know. Man, stop.

Listen, he going out the right way. Whatever happens. We took a little detour. Let's get back on track. As always, we do Mostly Fans. At the end of every show, if you drop a good question,

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And we use that video. $100 bonus to your underdog account. If you can't watch the show live, we're on YouTube. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. You've been coming at a lot of UCLA Bruins lately, and we're not playing it.

No, you know. UCLA Bruins? Who the hell? Who else? You allow outside situations to... No, whoever. Who else? You disrespected 54 hanging in the Raptors

There's no 54 in the Raptors at UCLA. Oh, that's your daddy Why did he have that number? Anyway? Is that the only number they had? Know the time he came in it was basically surrogated. Right? So it was like, whatever was left over. The back number. These are the back of the bus. Back of the bus.

55, 56. Y'all get the back of the bus number. These are the back of the bus number. The back of the bus number. Looking at that one more boy. No. We got a jersey back there somewhere. Somewhere. But shout on my pop shot

54 54 54 gun ones going twice The auction numbers, they just translated. Auction numbers? My bad, I forgot what era. I forgot what era, my bad. I'll put your name on the security list whenever you want to pull up. There's no way. Bring that blicky. Small force shooting guard got 54. Damn, for real, that's crazy. He made the most of it.

Eight in the league, though. He switched to eight. So let's talk about... This jersey didn't even have to get retired. Nobody's wearing that after. Nobody's wearing that after. Nobody's wearing that after. They even have to retire that number. Ain't nobody wearing 54.

Ain't nobody coming, hey, man, let me get that 54, man. Everybody gonna call your daddy. You think I can wear your number, man? Oh, y'all are unbelievable, man. Not too much. All right. All right.

All because I wore that damn jersey in here. Joe, whatever did you wear you see like 55 Only player you sailing history having a jersey retire right after That was me don't put my shirt back up this Technically that is was me. Don't put my shit back up there. Technically, that is your jersey. It's true. Yeah. Only one of us. Technically, yeah.

And you're lucky to direct deposit hit her. We could really get her dumped right now. But unfortunately, Christmas is on the way. Kwanzaa too. So I got to get these gifts right. But we got to talk about a situation going on in your family. So yesterday, me, you, and Reci.

Why did you make that face? Oh, I'm over here like, what the hell is going on? No, no, no. What does she do now? Ain't no process. Hold on. What the fuck? Ain't no process.

I did not see his face. It was shock. Yesterday, me and you, along with Cemetery Larry, we're doing our Lakers watch party. It was unfortunate. We watched the Lakers score much fewer points than the Timberwolves. But we'll have more on that game later.

But during the broadcast, you dropped some major news about one of the top high school basketball prospects, your son Elijah. Let's watch the clip. But that's how you get a kid to learn how to play basketball.

Like with my son, a person who helped him this summer was Danny Green. We're reclassing up right now. I think they just approved it today. Oh, he's what? So where's he going to be? He's, this is his senior year now.

Damn, Gil. That is legendary. That's a power move. So Elijah Classen, he was a junior. Folks got one more year of high school. They don't have an explanation why it's a power move. No, because he, no, he just just you got that LeBron. Oh Yeah, LeBron Jersey lesson yes, he got on the LeBron while the lake was long he knew what he was doing

She knew he really liked He just mad there's too many LeBron fans. Yeah, no. He wants to be the only one. I get it. LeBron airballed a shot. Like, all the Kobe fans, like, the real deep ones, someone has to really look at their love. That means you've been a Laker fan for 20 years.

You're a diehard Laker fan and decided to jump ship when LeBron got here? Mm, I mean- That makes, that's like, yeah! Woo! No, it was tragic, the way he- It don't ma- It was tragic, no, it was too tragic, no. I don't care who come in after that. That was a cold moment to come in. Like, I don't care.

LeBron came in 2018. He came in 2018. As a Boston- He was already there. Yeah, 2018. He came in before that. He was already there before. 2018. As a Boston fan, right, who did y'all hate? Magic back in the day. Would you have stopped being a Boston fan

if Magic Johnson came there to help y'all win championships? Me personally, probably not. OK, I just, it seems weird. Magic would have never come. You hated dude so much that you just believe I'm ending your whole team We've seen it happen before Thankfully some people got their minds right It's even worse there's Cleveland fans who've been Cleveland fans since they were little and then when LeBron got there and became great

They don't want to like Cleveland no more. Mm-hmm When they got better, I Don't think that we don't want to like Cleveland no more. Mm. When they got better. I don't think that happened. We don't want to hear you say Cleveland no more. I think the Lakers just different. I don't think that happened. I don't think that happened. If I'm a Laker fan, any great that want to come here, I do. Come on. Nah.

You have fans that have been rolling, rolling, rolling, and they're so bad, and then someone comes that they don't like, that makes them good, then they leave. But they've been their fans for so long. I had to watch the Lakers. they don't like, that makes them good, then they leave. But they've been their fans for so long. Y'all Laker fans had to watch him and the big head Socrates play

and y'all cheered. And then when LeBron James comes, y'all jump ship. That shit was cracking then. Big head Socrates. The big head. Do y'all not know the teams? Xavier and all them guys. Y'all was cheering them on.

Yeah, it was. And then when LeBron, huh? Was 24 still playing? Yeah, it was cracking then, that's why. 24 was still playing, right? It was cracking. LA was going up. How many games y'all in?

12. It don't matter. They was entertaining. But I'm saying they got to be entertaining. Y'all were fun to watch. It was entertaining. Season ticket holders and then. It was entertaining.

Let's get back to the topic of your times just weird times right just weird times Just they gotta find something just hate. I just gotta hate you gotta find somebody though So get your son Elijah jr. Right now Chatsworth High School Reclassing he's reclassified to the senior class So what role did you play in Elijah's decision to reclassify and in his high school career early to get on track to where he needs to be? I mean, it's always actually been the plan to reclass him. He got held back in second grade. Remember the Will Smith School?

They had a monastery. He used to go there. And how they taught their kids, that's not how, you know, Sierra was teaching. So when that school fell, he went to Sierra Canyon. They held him back in second grade. They do do that. Yeah, so this whole time, once he became a basketball player, it's like, well, you need to catch back up to your... So he's going back to, okay.

So he's going back to his regular group. Because obviously a lot of people don't know about you, but you graduated high school, I think, 17 years old, played part of your freshman season in Arizona as a 17-year-old. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Bust your ass, bro. I mean, you're behind.

I mean, so it's like, you know, reclass, go to college, get stronger, and then if you're good enough to get to the NBA or, you know, there's talks, then you can go. If not, you can stay one more year in college which would technically be your freshman year yeah so there's no point in playing high school basketball you're not learning anything mm-hmm does he still get to play McDonald's and stuff yeah okay so now that's that's what we're really fighting over because there I think the principal counselor granted his schedule. But, yeah, we had to do it before the 30th.

So I think they got it in so he can play McDonald's. Okay. Burger King, McDonald's, all that. Any college choice or are you waiting for that? USC. I'm going to leak it like what I used to do back in the day. USC. R, my dog. Ruin your moment.

Mm, mm. The muscle man over there. Yeah. That's my coach. Yeah. He could do better, Gil. He could do better. No, he can't.

He can't. No, let me get a member. Since he was a junior, a lot of schools didn't come. So now that it's open, we'll, you know. They're trying to holler. Yeah, we'll see who's coming. So you and Elijah were at the airport recently. Got stopped by TMZ.Z and they asked you a question who would win on one-on-one Let's see what y'all said

This dude is one of the highest prospects out there. So I gotta know is he waxing you one-on-one right now? Who? Let him answer that How is that going right now young man? No answer that Who's now, young man? No answer to that. He just had to have it now. No answer to that, huh? Yeah, he ain't got to win yet.

He be ducking. He be ducking, but when I was like a year ago, when we started really was really playing. But starting tall. I know, that's what I'm saying. He ain't going to be now, but he had it back then. So you guys are playing one- one right now and he got you? No, no, no, I'm smart, right? Once I realize I can win, I just stop playing.

That is smart. Yeah, you know what I mean? I'm not gonna take a L. So you never took the L? No, never took an L. Wow. I just stopped. So that's true.

I just stopped. Wow. I think the last four is what, 3-4? He is ducking you, bro. I'm on 4-3. I stopped. We're tied. We're tied. Yeah, I just stopped. So Gil, I noticed y'all were delta at LAX,

but you didn't go through the clearing line. You went through the Jim Pop security check? No, no, no, no We went to the sky priority Okay, just make it sure just make it sure How does that work they just walk up on you just walk up. Yeah Really like following you for a minute and then they decide to talk or they just I don't know We just you look a little and then they just got a camera in your face. I'll just whoop your ass Oh my god finish your one-on-one

When will you stop ducking your one-on-one? When will you stop ducking Elijah in one-on-one, Gil? Every time you losing, you just stop or make up a new game or some shit. Why you do that? I heard that happened in Madden too, Gil. The most important thing of an athlete is confidence, right? Twitter. Why am I taking an L? Fuck my confidence.

You're a quitter. Well, I'm not dumb. It comes with confidence. It's about confidence, right? Either I win or we don't finish. Losing is not acceptable. It comes upon a time in a man's life. It do. It comes upon a time. Just not right now.

Just not right now. Either I'm going to win or we going to shut it down. It's like me and Matt. Like when we play But like, you know, it's like me and Madden. Like, when we play, like, I know I could whoop your ass, but I'll be letting you win just for, you know, your confidence and shit. That's how Elijah treats you. Like, you know?

Like, you know when you finally could beat your dad, you beat him, but then you start letting him win because you know, like. No. He hasn't got to win yet. So that's the problem. So he really wants that. No, no, no, no.

When did you decide to tap out, though? When did you feel him creeping up on a win? Oh, I tried my little special move. Oh, pump fake, jab, pop, let him do this. And then I tried to go by him, and I used the hook method. The hook didn't work. It didn't work. Long.

And then he hit me with a, like, oh! Strong, too. Ow! Yeah, I was up 4-0, and then once I missed, and then he got his little four. So oh! Strong, too. Ow! Yeah, I was a 4-0. And then once I missed, and then he got his little four. So I was like, you pulled the plug? Yeah, like, ah, my hamstring hurt. It's like you got game.

My little ham, my little hammy hurt. Little hurt. I be right back. Trying to get him to go to big state. I be right back. I be right back. Go to Zona, sign this letter of intent. He tried that shit on me at 24.

He did? Ba-ba. Oh! I just stopped. Once he did some quick shit, I thought, it's all right, I can't. So, Brandon, you and Gil played one-on-one on Madden recently. How did that go there?

No, see, don't do that. Uh-oh. I'm up. Oh, you had jokes for my family, Gil. I'm up. Oh! Why? 4-0.

I beat him twice. Sweet. So, Broom? Yeah. Broom buffeted. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But me and Brandon, I'm going to give it to Brandon. Me and Brandon have some good battles. But Gil's supposed to be, like, the best. No, I'm not.

And he got his ass whooped. No, no, no, no. Twice. Twice. Okay, all right. Okay. He claimed to be 1A. He argued over 1B.

Okay, see, this is... I'm 1B. See, this is... I'm 1B, Tom. See, this is the problem with these two. I'm 1B. They only live in today, like, right now. You lost today, though.

Right now. Right now. Right now. We're in December. We're in today, like right now. You lost today, though. Right now. Right now. We're in December. We're supposed to live in right now. We're in the month of December. I'm 6-2 against him in the last eight games. I'm 6-2. He just won the last two this morning.

What are you talking about? So 6-0, he won two games. We do a whole new month. He's 1-10 against me. No, man. Man, come on, man. That's it. Don't count I didn't know how to play at first. I just that was my first time playing You can't It was the last 11 games. That's the problem

35 10 and then what happened after that you was mad Well, I was like you like now I'm gonna take you off the show. I said, man, go ahead. I'm gonna take you off the show. Yeah, this shit. I'm gonna take you off the show. That's crazy. Yeah, he do be doing that. He does. He does.

All right, here's my games against Nick. 50-0, 72-0. Damn. 42, oh, and he quit, quit. 14-14, I mean, 42-14, quit. 49-12, quit. Then he won 14-35. That's when I got good.

I got real. Okay, he got good. That first day, of course, you whipped my ass. You got good. Then the next game, 24-0, he quit in the second quarter. Then the next game after that, 21-0, he quit in the second quarter. Then 30-13, he quit in the fourth quarter. And then the only game we got to play, he finished it.

It was 35-23. He's 11-1 in total, but he only thinks about the one win. He better go to hell. It's a new month. He better go to hell. Brandon, what's your record for this month? This month? Oh, 2-0.

I don't want to just be lying and shit. I'm 34-5 against the group. No, he's not. No, he's not. I'm he though. He just be lying. I'm 34 and 5 Against the group. No, he's not Okay, he hasn't yeah, he hate you please Today this morning was his first win since the beginning of October wasn't no has it Witness a new month. Thank you. Oh you hear what he said? It's a new month! You hear what he said? This is what it's worth. It's a new month. I've been going. I've been traveling and everything. Man, you have been around. He got confidence after that. He beat me after that. I was shocked.

I woke up about to talk shit. He called me. I whooped your leg. One and eleven and he's right here talking about it. I'm better than you, man. All you got to do is play on live. Let the people see. I bet. Let's get into some basketball. We'll get the game going back again soon for all the fans out there asking, but let's get into a little basketball.

Hey, why they don't have retirement? Like, why they don't have the retired players? In football? Like, on the game, right? Yeah, like, why they don't have that in football? I don't know, because they don't want to pay them. We can pick, like, the 85 Bears and, you know, teams like that. Well, you know the NFL is basketball? They don't have that in football. I don't know. Because they don't want to pay them. We can pick like the 85 Bears and teams like that. Well, you know the NFL is cheap.

They ain't going to do that. Allegedly. No, I'm just kidding. But let's get into a little basketball. As I mentioned before, we were watching the Lakers-Wolves game last night on playback. Unfortunately, it wasn't the best performance for the Lakers as they struggled on the second night of a back-to-back after a big win over the Jazz in Utah Sunday.

So Wolves beat the breaks off the undermanned Lakers squad with a 29-point win. Lakers did not have Bronny, so that obviously severely impacted their ability to win the game. As you recall, that season opening win against the Wolves, Bronny locked up and Manfred locked him up. Anthony Edwards had a season-low eight points on three-for-13 shooting. Didn't matter. He only had to play 27 minutes and got some rest once the game was out of hand. Edwards has not scored below 20 all season.

Julius Randle led the Wolves with 18 points on six for 13 shooting in 24 minutes. And Rudy Gobert, nicknamed Tooby Gobert by one of the legends in our chat, has 17 points and 12 rebounds going seven for eight from the field. On the Lakers side, D'Angelo Russell was back in the starting lineup for the first time since November 6th, with Austin Reeves still out. Led the team in scoring with 20 points on 8-for-12 shooting. It was 4-for-5 from 3.

AD had 12 points on 4-for-14 shooting. Who was that? Who was that? One of them young boys. Zero. Zero. Aaron Shannon. Fuck. AD had 12 points, 4-for-14 shooting. Also had 11 rebounds, 5 dimes in 33 minutes. LeBron James did not look like himself,

scoring 10 points on 4-for-16 shooting in 31 minutes. He was 0-for-4 from three, making him 0-for-19 from long distance over the past four games. You know, unfortunate. But we will work on it. Put my money on the under for LeBron. By the way, the 80 points for the Lakers

was the fewest any team has scored in the NBA this season, and it was nasty to witness. What's all this negativity? No, because I'm trying to... Brown off social media, you got to see these clips. I'm trying to motivate. A whole bunch of, like... Trying to motivate.

A whole bunch of just information that don't need to be there. I understand. Viewers points, season by NBA team. You don't need to do all that. Why not? Why not? Why not? Contextualize.

He ain't losing me money, man. Yeah, why not? Yeah, let's talk about it. I put money on the higher every time, LeBron. He ain't 20 in the last week. Let's talk about your fucking leg. Stat man, stat man. But hold on, before we do, before this season,

LeBron said he wanted to play in all 82 games. He's played in all 21 games so far this season. JJ Redick was asked about the 82, if the 82-game goal was sustainable after the game, and here's what he had to say. Uh, I mean, I think come on now we are measuring the players and and you know we we can tell if a guy's running hot or whatever he does a remarkable job of taking care of his body and and uh getting recovery um i don't know that's in the best interest of him and us if he does that.

But if he's feeling well and feeling good, then he should play. But we obviously want to manage that as best we can. JJ, not looking happy right now, looking a little stressed out. You wanted this Lakers life, JJ. You got to take everything that comes with it. So LeBron was asked about his goal to play 82 games after last night's game, and he said, that's a goal, but we'll see.

It's something I ain't discussing right now. So, Gil, I'm going to ask you, our resident LeBron expert, should LeBron and the Lakers think long-term and end his quest to play 82 games this season? They're 12-9 right now. Seems like they could have rested him, scheduled some of those losses. Well, we heard what his goal was, and then we heard what the coach's response was. Right?

We will see and manage it, right? Load manage it the right way. Right? You remember that narrative? They made the players see that the world make it seem like the players was load managing themselves when it's really them they're checking to make sure everybody can who's running hot who's running cold and like He's not gonna play 82 games. This the the Lakers is not gonna allow him to play 82 games. It doesn't even make sense

It doesn't but you him to play 82 games. It doesn't even make sense. It doesn't. You want to play 82 games at the end of the season? How about the season of him playing all these in a row then? We all knew that wasn't going to happen, but now he looks exhausted. To get out to a good start? It's like you got to... Well, right.

You feel like you guys have high hopes? Like the problem is... Brandon. You are late in my heart. It's not like it's high hopes. You got JJ Redick as your coach. What do you mean? I mean, what's the high hopes?

We ain't looking too good. I ain't going to lie. I'm just saying. It's looking bad. What do you mean we ain't looking too good? We right where we always is. No, no. We right where we always is.

This is where we always is. This team is not winning. This team is not winning. Winning what? You guys heard somebody that didn't talk that. A championship? Yeah. No, we ain't winning. We not even getting always is. It's not winning. This team is not winning. Winning what?

You guys heard somebody that didn't talk that. A championship? No, we winning. We not even getting. Brother, who told y'all the Lakers win a championship? We could, though. No, no, brother. If we make some right moves, we could.

If we make some right moves. When that happens, I'll let you know. Other than that, right now, we just. Where was Bronny at? We just a nice little seven seed. We just a nice little seven seed. We just a nice little seven seed. Trying to get our little four, five extra games in the playoffs. We're not going to beat seven seed.

Bronny has a heel contusion. He's been out. That's why he fucked up. That's what I'm saying. He don't even look happy out there. We need the end stopper. The end stopper. We need Bronny to rejuvenate.

Game changer. Hey, man, what? Man a profession. We need to rejuvenate. Game changer. Hey, man, what? Man, what? You don't look happy, dog. This ain't about... What do you think was going to happen? This guy is a... They hired a podcast.

He really looking 40 now. He look like me. They hired a guy because he was doing X's and O's. 15-year NBA career. I don't care. You do not care. Randy, I thought you was on the legacy side. He needs some criticism, too. Who? JJ. No, no. Because do not care. Randy, I thought you was on the right side. You know what? He needs some criticism, too.

Who? JJ. No, no. Because if it was somebody else, they'd be killing him. Man, Darvin Ham. If it was Darvin Ham, they'd be on Darvin Ham's head. No, we wouldn't. Yes, I would.

No, we wouldn't. Yes, I would. That's cap. Man, y'all better stop reading them internet damn things, man. Man, y'all be killing Darvin Ham. We was not talking about no Darvin Ham at the beginning of the season. Kill JJ Reddick the same way y'all was killing Darvin Ham. Okay, we gonna wait until we kill him.

What you mean? It's right now. No, we didn't kill. Right now. Show us the article. Kill him right now. Kill him right now. No, why?

Darwin Ham didn't get killed right now. Yes. No, he didn't get killed in December. Tell J.J. We won the Western End with the same record. No. Remember, we was over here celebrating, right? No.

Like, let's be honest. We were happy. We were happy right now. We were happy. We were happy right now We won that was this we were sitting here clapping And then what happened is after we won a championship NBA Cup champion be a cup championship Shit went sour. I think we went three for like 15. That's when I was started talking bad That's when we got a little last was last year. Yeah, last year. Yeah, that was last year.

When they first started, you guys not even had the government. You had the government starting with Kim Reddison. Oh, yeah, you can't defend the title. Yeah, you guys can't even defend the title. That's how bad y'all are. Y'all that bad. Okay, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

You can't even defend the title. I'll give you that. You know? I can't even defend it. Damn, JJ, you can't win the... God damn it. Yep. Came again to the semis.

You can't get to the semis? Nothing. Darvin Hamm did that. Man, D. Hamm did? Mm. 12 and 9. They were 12 and 9 last year. Hmm.

Right? It was 12 and 9, right? Same right here. I don't know. I feel like they're exactly where we thought they were going to be. I mean, injury issues. No Jerry Vanderbilt.

Yeah. Doesn't that... I don't like... Huh? Game changer. The rookie's playing really well. Their role players are not really playing well, and they're still right in the middle. I don't like that. Like, when does reality versus your expectations get closer to each other?

Never. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Lakers, where do we have the Lakers? Y'all didn't have them in the playoffs. No, we didn't. We had top playoffs. We had them finish in top six. So why the fuck do we, right where y'all had us predicted. So what are we talking about? There's no, nobody's around here talking about championship.

We got right where we are. I hope we're going to fight for seven, eight, nine, ten. You know what, JJ? You didn't say Lakers. You tell Brian you got to sit down. I didn't say Lakers Bronby's loss. Hoping we gonna fight for 7, 8, 9, 10. That's all they can talk about. No, you know what, JJ? You did say Lakers had something final. You didn't say ball until Bron, you gotta sit down. I didn't say Lakers. That's me. Even though I had them about 7, 8 seed, right?

We still have them 7, 8 seed, so I don't know what the... We right where we supposed to be. Nah. We coasting. No. No. It ain't looking good. Playing possum, if you will.

But I'm just saying, it's not like we not playing up or down. We're right where we. Like the expectation, oh, y'all got LeBron. He's 40, but we're going to treat him like he's 22, and he's supposed to carry this team and do all that. That's what y'all doing? No, it ain't. No, sit him down.

Our best player's 40 years old? That's been a problem. He's not the best player, though. AD? AD? Yeah. Had a good first five games. Cool. Are we happy? No, I'm not happy. Same old shit. I'm not happy. I'm not happy. That's your problem. The rest of the Lakers fans, we happy when AD's playing.

We can't give him breaks. We can't give JJ breaks like we did. Nah. We didn't give give JJ... He got to amp this shit up. Something got to happen. Demand some shit. JJ. You got to tell LeBron to come sit down a little bit. And about LeBron. LeBron got to demand some shit, too. We are. LeBron acting like a little punk like he don't want to

trade some motherfuckers. Do what you do. Trade every goddamn body. Do what you do. Who the fuck do we have on our team? We got everybody. We don't got a goddamn asset on our team. Everybody want all three. Did you see that lineup? There was four dudes in there that I seen

in the G League, balling. I can trade LeBron and AD. I seen four of them. I'm like, man, this is like the G League. I thought when I turned it back and came back for my shot, I thought it was the South Bay Lakers. Oh, shit. No, the same team won the NCAA.

There was a 53 out there. There was an 85 out there. Like, oh, my God. Goddamn rugby numbers. There did some sick numbers out there. Huh? There was some sick-ass numbers out there. They ass, but you got to...

Okay, so we don't have no assets. They won the championship last year. That was last year. We got stellar assets. We got a lot of assets. First-round pick, second-round pick. No, no. We got Gabe Vincent bawling, a lot of assets. First-round pick, second-round pick. No, no. We don't got... We got Gabe Vincent balling, creeping on the come-up.

Who wouldn't want him? You don't know. Not one of these players in here. M. Lewis. M... Reeves. Who? Reeves. You got a lot for Reeves. Mm. You got a lot for Reeves. You got the pick.

You can't have both of them fighting, though. Reeves don't feel confident no more. They putting on the trust and connecting shit. Come on. We don't got no asses man. We fucked up We fucked up this summer, okay, we didn't get what we want you. Thank you. We just waited We missed out on everybody. Thank you I don't claim the bra. I don't know why poor George is going to stay home. And then DeMar left us for Sacramento. I'm still not happy about that.

He's still not happy about that. I'm still not happy about that. I thought Kendrick said he came home. Everybody's a suspect. I thought Kendrick said he came home. Everybody's a suspect. Everybody's a suspect. Kendrick said he came home.

That's funny. Welcome home, baby. No, now you're going up north. Come on, man. I'm still. Welcome home, baby! Now that you're going up north, come on, man. I still not feeling right about that. Something just not sitting right with the DeMar thing. Yeah, we have until the start of Black History Month to make some moves. We got to.

LeBron on this Jimmy Butler shit, he only going to show up for the playoffs, the big run. Yeah, they got to get there. So he going to be all right. And I'm... But we got some assets, though, bro. AD can do it. We don't got no... You all right. And I'm- But we got some assets though, bro. AD can do it. We don't got no- You said AD can do what?

We don't got no goddamn assets, bro. What? Why you think they plan- We were talking about you for the BSP. We were- We've been trying to get rid of D'Lo for six years now. Six years. The last time he was the Laker, we were trying to-

He snuck back in. We thought we had a no-comeback call. No-comeback call. It's teams that other people don't want. It's teams that other people don't want. Little dealer. Little dealer. Little dealer.

We could get, like, Little Bean, Zach Levine. Yeah, get to that team. That's what I'm saying. They don't want nothing. Chicago don't want them. I was watching that team. That shit looked crazy. They looked at our roster like, yeah, we'll pass.

So I mentioned LeBron's cold streak at the three-point line earlier, but it's an overall offensive funk that he's in. LeBron shot under 45% in six straight games. Longest streak since he did it 11 straight times as a rookie, according to ESPN Research. Yeah, it's been a while. So what's it going to take for LeBron to snap out of his cold streak? Rest.

Some more yard? He got a chip. I mean, every player has gone through this thing. They all sitting. He's the only one not sitting down. His first straight game under 45% from the field for the first time since his rookie season. He did that 11 times in his rookie season.

Okay, we all right. We good? You mean it? He just needs to take a chance. So that means for 21 years, 21 straight years, he's never taken a chance before. Ricky says, okay, we all right. We good? You mean it? He just needs to take a- So that means for 21 years, 21 straight years, he's never done this before. Right, he never did this. Like, everyone runs out of food.

Let's say it the other way. For 21 years, this never happened before. That's good. All right, shit, we good. No, that's why I was kind of like, all right, I mean, I guess. Right, correctly. I don't know, he probably,

my eye probably fucked up. Bring Bronny back, shit. Your contusion. He probably... My eye probably fucked up. So... Bring Bronny back. Shit. Your contusion. He hurt. Bronny would've cooked last night. He'd have sat on the bench. I knew he would've had a cool... Bro, he would've had, like, seven...

Nobody want to look bad in front of their kid. Seven minutes? That was seven minutes. Who? That was seven minutes of just bench work. Right? What? Mm. Come on, man.

So... Like we said, like 12 and on. Good old days, boy, when your team getting their ass whooping. You know you're getting in. And you can shoot. Woo-wee!

Still don't have Jared Vanderbilt. Still don't have Christian Wood. Man, stop saying that. Why be forgetting? But stop saying that, though. Austin Reed. Woods would be a good asset. Right?

Woods. Right? Need to be in the woods somewhere where the fuck he belong. Who? Woods? Yeah. I thought he was like he have his 20s. Christian Wood. Christian Wood is a, hold on man. Yeah what happened to him? Hasn't played all season. He hurt? Vanderbilt is. He he all right. That's what I'm saying. We down right now. We don't have our favorite offense. Yeah, Christian Wood averaged 21. Four points. What the fuck four points going to do? But he averaged what? He averaged 21-9 one year, and then 18-10. Yeah, that was in Houston.

He just been hurt? He just been hurt with us? No. It's different with us. It's different out here. It's different out here. It's different out here. It's different out here. It's different out here. It's different. It's different.

It's unfortunate. Notice the life, if you will. The life. You get talking about it. Maybe we'll talk about another team, man. Right now, though, why you kicking us while we down? We ain't even down. We right where we are.

We standing tall. Trying to motivate. Trying to motivate. No, we don't do that. No. The boss ain't going to win it all. Expectations versus reality. The boss is going to win it all. Expectations versus reality.

Boss ain't going to win it all. Just be real, man. We just talking and talking. Snaps for that. Boss is going to whoop everybody's ass. No snaps, no claps. Well, yeah, right. Look, we eighth spot.

We eighth spot. One win away from fifth spot. We right where we are. Right in the middle, baby. Right in the middle. But it look bad, though. No, it looked bad yesterday. It looked bad. That's what I'm saying.

It looked bad yesterday. It looked like being last. It looked like Milwaukee the last couple weeks. It looked like, put it like this. Like, JJ would have got fired last night if it was like that. It looked that bad. Damn. Yeah, it looked bad.

For real? No, no, no. I don't know what was going on. The shit they were trying. This ain't Duke, motherfucker. This ainpoints? I don't know what was going on. Yeah. The shit they were trying. Like, this ain't Duke, motherfucker. This ain't not Duke. Man, this is...

The college shit, yeah. Run, we gonna run around and hand off and do the pick and roll to the... What the fuck is that? Oh, yeah, you ain't got the players for that. No, no, the connect Reeves, D-Lo. You need Rui and Gabe. That's the offense you run with Dak. Yeah, yeah. Just run around, just run around looking like Steph Curry

and Klay the whole time. Mm. I didn't say Gabe. Andy Davis out here, I think he got my playbook. Bring the ball up one full flat and like, come on, dog. Every play, that's his only shit. Don't run no plays for him. Show big ass in the post.

You got Rudy Goldberg on you, dog. Come on, man. Fake up. He going to jump up and under. Big ass down there, man. Tooby Goldberg. I thought he was going to cook Goldberg. He normally do, though.

He normally cook Goldberg. I put everything on the higher. What he's trying to do is he's sitting there catching at the three-point line. Now he want to sit there with the ball come on man That ain't just get to it just get to that ain't functional for you. Not you not right now That's every other right that's when you fly right now. Now. We don't need that bullshit. Yeah It's the back-to-back in a second game man You supposed to try to get layups and right through it all that shooting jump shit on the back-to-back that's

So what's the Lakers biggest problem a quarter way into the season and how do they fix it? We've identified some of the problems. What is the most important thing they need to focus on as they get ready for the second quarter of the season? The most important, realistically, at this point, is basically managing. Managing his roster, managing the LeBron, AD.

And that's how it's always been the last three years. You get so far down in the hole that at the end of the season, they have to play and rub their engine up. So, you know, right now it's really understanding what games you can play, what games you can't. Right? Like that game right there, how AD or LeBron, both of them shouldn't have been playing yesterday.

That's a scheduled loss. You knew you was going to lose that game. That's what we call schedule. You had that on, we might lose this one. Circle it. Rest one of them. Or you steal a win because they're out. Another team is like, okay

They're out But it's different cuz they playing for something so it's hard to sit out when you was that a no that wasn't a I wasn't for the cup. That was a good cup Well, I'm a winning. Oh, that's a pride Too much fun so NBA NBA Cup games were tonight. Last game was a group play. So you said the Lakers need to rev their engine up. Well, speaking of revving it up.

No, I didn't say rev it up. I said manage it. Manage it, he said. But there's the opposite of that. There's the opposite of that. It's the very opposite. So, but I know you want to use it. You got a segway.

Go and segway. Goddamn. Hell yeah. My ball. I know that was worth it. It was a good segway, my bad. It was, damn. I know, my boss. I know that was worth it. It was a good segue, my bad. It was, boom, it was working. But speaking of revving your engine up,

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so we can officially call this the quarter season mark. Let's take a look at who NBA.com has as their top five MVP candidates in their MVP ladder, which they update every weekend. So let's take a look at the most recent MVP ladder. Occupying the

top spot, Nikola Jokic. I'm so mad at Big Luka. Average of 30, 13, and 11. Can I change my person? Luka has a wrist joint. He's coming back. No. Can I go back to Tatum, please? No take back.

No take back. Jason Tatum currently in second, Alex. I'm going back. That's why I'm last year. Giannis should be one. No. Anthony Davis. 32 and a 12?

Come on. Get the fuck. Come on, man. Giannis occupying the fourth spot. 33, 12. He should be second. He should be second, maybe. Second?

Should be first. SGA, even though the Thunder are in the top spot in the West. Giannis? 312 maybe second and every verse Yeah, even though the Thunder on the gun is the way honest Yeah, this is averaging 33 and 12 for a team that's supposed to be second in the East right now Y'all got a 10 and 9 record. Yep. You you exactly where you supposed to be. That's fine. Well, that's a AD He isn't You honest isn't in front of AD. No! Giannis isn't in front of AD. AD is second.

I mean, Giannis is second. No, he's third. Jokers first, Tatum second. Oh, oh, it's going that way. Giannis fourth, SGA fifth. No. Oh. Your team, where your team's supposed to be versus where you are.

Oh, no. Giannis play, oh, no. He's supposed to be up top. Yeah, number two. He's supposed to be up top. Yeah, the way he's playing. Yeah, 33 and 12. 33 and 12. 33 and 12.

33 and 12. 33 and 12. 33 and 12. With a 10 and 9 record. Shooting over 60. Mike, what are we talking about? This is going to be interesting. They're voting because now it's this team success versus whatever. Yeah, now it's different this year.

Because now it's Jokic on their team. Their team is in, but he's being who he is. You know what's so funny? If it stays like this, and he's doing the same numbers and his record stays like this, they're going to move him out at the end. Because it's going to be hard to convince that

the world that his record can make him MVP when you already snubbed Westbrook two or three times for the same record with the same numbers. So let's talk about Joker a little bit. Averaging 30 points, 13 rebounds, and 11 assists. Shooting 56% from the field, 51% from three,

82% from the free throw line. Nearly 38 minutes per game. I think the third most minutes per game in the league this season. So he's on pace to become just the third player in league history to average a triple-double. But despite Joker's stellar individual play this season, Nuggets are 10-8, currently ninth in the West. So, Lexi, you brought this up.

How much do the Nuggets' struggles this season impact Joker in the MVP race? They just put him in there every year, don't they? I mean, it has to now. I mean, we always say to take the team's success away, but that's just not how... That's just not how it's been. So unless they're like, okay, from now on, that's how we're gonna do it. But it means a lot.

And you got Shea, obviously, Thunder currently top spot in the West, consistently averaging that 30. But then, yeah, you can't let someone's team success boost them up either. It just doesn't make, like, you keep... Changing it. You keep changing it, right?

Is these numbers better than what Luka was doing yesterday and the impact Luka was doing last year, where he didn't even sniff one-two, right, with those numbers, right? So you can't put those numbers up here just because he's averaging a rebound more and an assist more. It's still not equating to winning.

Yeah, team's in the ninth spot. And then you got the guys who are winning both their teams in first place. They sitting at two and four? Because if that was Russ... There's no way AD's in front of... Two and five. If that was Russ, they wouldn't be up there.

Like, I'm sorry. So Tatum at two, SGA at five right now currently. Should be Tatum one. They'd be killing Russ right now. Huh? They'd be killing Russ if he was... Russ would be at five. With those shootings, please go.

No, they'd be like, you're selfish and stat-taster. 56 from the field, 51 from three. Yeah, but... Call him a stat-taster. I know Russ looking at Joker like... But your teammate... Yeah, they're teammates now. Fuck.

That's what I'm saying. You can't change it every year. But you're not joking like so your teammate, but your team. Yeah, they're teammates now Can't change that you can't change it every year. You can't keep going back and forth to figure out how Work for someone Joker much more efficient triple-double comparative Yeah, 51 for three guys respect how many threes at the games you think Shooting like two though. Oh Well still he's a big he's shooting like two, though. Or one. But still, he's a big man. He should be shooting that. Yeah, I mean, because it's not like the big man is pressuring you. That big man still has to protect the basket.

So he's shooting four threes a game, making 2.2. So he's making two threes a game, shooting 51%. I mean, that's good. He's playing like an MVP, right? No one's going to take that away. If you take away team success, if you take away team success if you take away team success then Jokic Giannis, yeah, this is discussion we've had on this couch previously, but how much did that team success impact? How we looking at the MVP, right? We don't know though because it changes talking about a nugget squad

That's what it is removed from which that's the problem because what you've told all of us is Team success is the most important. Well, they used to say that. Out loud. But when we look at here, you change it every year, right? You know, when Kobe was taking that sorry team and winning, right, and they made it to the playoffs, you snubbed him. You snubbed him all the way until he actually won. And then say, okay, You're the MVP, right?

you Mean probably You'll get you Westbrook is the only ones that won MVPs where their team record was in top three or four Yes, yeah, cuz, Russ was doing something crazy. Yeah, see, Russ already did this. Yeah. So you're not doing anything that we haven't seen. We've seen it. So we saw Russ do it as a guard.

We've never seen a big man. So is that the excuse? I'm just asking. For someone that's already won it twice. All right. You could say Russ with the rebound is extremely impressive. You could say Joker with the assist. But remember, that was my argument.

I said, remember last year, if you go back last year, I said, what if Jokic won this year and you didn't give it to Shea and Jokic wins and he has a triple-double and his team is worse? You're going to give it to him because you gave it to him for almost having one. Now you have to give it to him for having one because he's going to complain like, wait, wait, you gave me the MVP with these numbers. This number is way better.

So you have to give it to him. Or it wouldn't make sense to him as a player. This is going to be interesting. You can't go. So Joker's won as a three seed, a six seed, and a two seed. Huh? Joker's three MVPs. He got the first one as a three seed.

Oh, he's won three? No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no. No, no, no. Out of the, all of the NBA, the record out of all of the NBA. Yeah. His, no, not, not, not in the West.

Oh, not, not just West. All, yeah. I think it was like 10, 10, and five. Ooh. Oh, like East and West combined. Yeah. I think last, last year was the first year his team was 50%, right? What do you mean?

Like a 500 record? No, there were two seeds last year. The year before that. 2022, there were 60. That was the... Yeah, so there was a 60 in the West. Overall, they had the 10th best record. So 2021, when he won his first MVP, they were fifth overall in the league.

2022, they were 10th overall in the league. And last season, they were third overall in the league based on record. Got to give it to Tatum this year. 10. Yeah. Got to give it to Tatum. Yeah, that's fair. Or if the Bucs really are able to turn it around.

Giannis has a good case, too. For sure. Of course he does. Giannis made history last season. Of course he does. Giannis made history last season, averaging 34% over 60% shooting. I don't know. Why do you keep doing all that? The Bucs got to move up to like,.

You just said we can, if. When you say turn it around, you mean. Go to where they're supposed to be. Go to where they're supposed to be. Yeah, which they have a lot of time to. So go to the second spot and average the same behavior. What are his numbers? Yeah, then he has an argument. Yeah

Yeah, why do you gotta go to where he's supposed to be in Joker can't go to the way he spoke That's the problem. He's supposed to be your team Number one is supposed to be number one They always been what was the preseason preseason the year they won what were they preseason ranked number one No, they wasn't. Oh, no this year. Preseason ring. Wait, the year they won, what were they? Preseason ring number one. No, they wasn't. Oh, no. The year they won it? The year they won, where did they finish?

They were... OKC had to be. I don't know. OKC what? This year? It was OKC, Minnesota, and them. No, yeah, I don't think. Yeah, but they still wouldn't have won.

But still, where are they supposed to be? Do they supposed to be ninth, or are they supposed to be in the top four? Top four. They're definitely not supposed to be where they're at right now. Where are they supposed to be? Are they supposed to be ninth or are they supposed to be in the top four? They're definitely not supposed to be where they're at right now. Where are Milwaukee supposed to be? Top two. Top two. So how do you put him?

You're top two. No Chris Middleton. And he's doing it without Chris Middleton. Doing what without Chris Middleton? He's doing it without... Yeah. Who's about to win the next 17? Y'all should.

I don't care. Six games, we're in the street. We don't play nobody. I don't care. You look at that schedule and be like, hell yeah. Listen, I don't'all should. I don't care. Six games in the streak. I don't care. You don't play nobody. I don't care. You look at that schedule and be like, hell with it. Listen, I don't care. Hey, I don't care what it is.

We going to the club. I don't care. I don't care. They looked at that schedule like, oh, we going out. I don't care. Average 40. Average 40 during that time. That's my case.

That's going to be my case right here. They got to be Washington, Charlotte. They play Washington two times. Charlotte. They got the Pistons. 50. 50. Chicago two times. Chicago 50. They play Washington two times, Charlotte. The Tulips. They got the Pistons. 50, 50, 50, 50. Chicago, Utah.

Chicago, 50. 50. Brooklyn in there. They play Brooklyn. They do play Brooklyn. They play the Blazers. 50. Blazers.

50, 50, 50. They play the Blazers. They play everybody. Watch, he going to have a case. I don't care. No New Orleans in there right now. Lexi, we talked about Jason Tatum. What does Jason Tatum need to do to get some more love?

Nothing. For real. Nothing. I don't know what else he got to do. Ice cream and hate? It's crazy. It's prevalent. Nothing.

He's been putting his head down. Nothing he can do. He's put his head down and worked. What he is doing now is what he needed to do, and it's still not enough. There's nothing Jason Tatum is doing now was what he needs, what he needed to do and it's still, like, not enough. There's nothing Jason Tatum can do.

You think they're going to finish one? He could. Yeah. If he start ducking. There's, it has to be an illusion. Like, he,

he literally has to do stuff that has nothing to do with the game. Like, on a fast point, throw it between his legs. Like, do something that is just two points, but it look great.

No, but they gonna they gonna they gonna hit it. Hit a game winner do one of these do the co-like. No, they gonna kill him for it.

Yes, they will. They'll be like look at Taysom. I think that's what it is that he boring. He's boring. His other running man white skin dude

shooting threes with a jersey. What's boring about winning though? No. Exactly. They made it. Y'all think he's boring? What's boring about winning, though? Exactly. They made it? Y'all think he's boring? He is boring.

I'm watching Brown. I said, ooh, Brown might have got something. Like, nah, just like. Brown's going to get it. Yeah. Jason, he's going to be over there like. Tatum don't flex. He just play.

But that's why I love them on the court together. Because they're so opposite. No, but think about it. When you're voting, when you hear his name, what do you do? That's Tatum. Like, it makes you think about, what is he doing? Yeah, he's going. The numbers are on.

Like, he doesn't, like, when you're watching him, you go to the box score and say, oh, shit, he got 28 today. There's nothing during a game that shows you he's balling, balling. But that happens to people. When Giannis is playing, Giannis can have 14. It looked like it was 40. Just the way he's doing it. And that's what sticks in people's voters' mind.

Because you got to remember, you got voters all around the world that's not watching the game. They're not watching the game. People in Toronto is not watching. Oh, I need to watch Jason Tatum. They just watch whatever they're going to watch it and they're voting off of what they think. And we know that the most is more is more visual like Ja right now. Ja looks like he's averaging about 30 from the seat. Highlights him jumping over people like we don't know if it's this year last year. We don't know which highlight it is. We just like, oh, shit. Get him, young fella.

Drop back. Drop back. What if he averaged 40 this month? Who? It's Howell. Yeah, it's Howell. But 40 is 40, though. No, it ain't.

No, it ain't. It ain't. Because he had, what, 50 last year. I mean, if he averaged 40, that means he's going to have a couple 50-point games. It ain't. Like when De'Aaron Fox averaged, when he did that, nobody? Nobody?

Everybody was like, oh, he did what? Man, three games? Man. That was crazy. Good shit. Yeah, that was a crazy stretch of game. When Melo did it, it was everywhere. When Melo did it, it was everywhere.

When Melo did it, they were like, God. Like the same thing. Look at Melo. Yeah. De'Aaron, we don't even know if Melo won any of those games. It's like, how he was doing one-legged step back on somebody. It's perception. So he got to come down, dunk on somebody, hit a guy.

He got to be a rookie. He got to be a rookie table. Yeah, dunk, flex, get the tech. Just a bunch of shit that got nothing to do with the game. But it's not the shit out of somebody. Would you say Joker's boring or entertaining to watch? Who? Joker's boring, but how he plays the game.

Like, some of the pass is going to make the highlight. Because he's so big and don't look like he's going to be so... He'd be in there turning around and flicking that shit that way. It was like if he was doing what Ant-Man's, you know, coming in there. Like, you know, Ant-Man's going to give you a dunk. He's going to talk. He's going to have a personality. Even Ant-Man get me mad now, though.

It's just his brand. His Tatum brand is too clean. It's too vanilla. It's too vanilla. Yeah. It's too vanilla. No, but that's what I said. When you think about it, that's what I said.

Like, when you think about his name, what do you really think about? The Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics. Yeah. And then it makes you think about the team, and then it makes you think about, let me go to Google and see what he's doing. He too quiet, man. He sit back too much and just let people talk about him.

He's a professional, though. Yo, is he the softest Boston Celtics superstar ever? That ain't being professional. That's being soft sometimes. The softest? It crashed out time. No, I'm not trying to crash out. I really don't know what soft is.

I mean, the quietest. Soft. No, soft. It might be soft. Soft. No, I mean, no, I'm not gonna crash. I really don't know what soft is. I mean the quiet is soft No, so So I'm talking about my champion like that Soft meat like like the game that day when they lost to Cleveland That was with the capital or lower. Okay, so I was when you can punk around the court, right? That's soft Okay, you don't get soft. You're not you're not saying anything. That saying anything. What do we know about Boston Celtics players? Anybody that put on a Boston Celtics

jersey from the 80s on up? Yeah, they rough. They cutthroat, right? Blue collar. They cutthroat? No! Blue collar? They are. Even the crowd, even the fans. Not in a while.

Wait, hold on. The are. Since the 80s. Even the crowd. Even the fans is like, Paul. Not in a while. Not in a while. Wait, hold on. Wait. The Paul Pierce and the Anton Walker. Paul Pierce and the, they cut throat. No, they was not. They cut throat. Them niggas doing the shimmy, Chuckie 3 is doing this shit.

Thank you. They stand out. They talk shit, too. They used to get they ass drunk. They suck. But they cut throat, though. It wasn't cut throat. Man, they cut throat.

That team cut throat. They got cut throat. They still cut throat. That's how cut throat he was. They team structure. They still cut throat. They Man, they cutthroat. That team got cutthroat. They got cutthroat. We've got staff. That's how cutthroat he was. They got cutthroat. They team-studied. I'm taking it. They got cutthroat. I'm taking the clean cut

in the championship. They got cutthroat when KG got there and they became rough and tough again. No, no, no. But before that, Boston's touching it.

They ass popped off through the lead. That has nothing to do with those two players. Yeah, they were. No. How tough you got to be to hit a three

and then you sitting there killing it? Nah, Paul Pierce. Come on, man. Paul Pierce. He was still in work. He got stabbed. Average of 21, man.

Nah. They gave fast, bro. They gave fino. They gave beefy with the sword. Yeah, they gave Paul Pierce the nickname. Played all 82 games that next season. Got stabbed and played right after. Like, what's up?

They gave Paul Pierce the nickname The Truth. He got shanked five, ten times. They gave Paul Pierce the nickname The Truth. And what was their record? Yeah. What was their record? What was their record? They said, what's up, Yeah, what was that record? What's up? What was that record 33 33 we I don't give a 24 He ain't no pull you making the playoffs with 33 wins in 24

Hey no plan did not exist yet and the ocean the East with 33 wins you could be a six-year. First round loss, first round loss, no playoffs, no playoff. They didn't make the playoffs. They didn't make the playoffs with 24 wins, bro. Man, you just said it. They got tough when KG got there, and they got that round, round back. Nah, I can't. Doc was the coach over there. Doc was the coach, so you know they was mush.

That's fine. You know they was mushy in the belly. They might was losing, but they wasn't soft, though. Soft doesn't mean the same. Brandon, you asked if Jason Tatum's soft. Does Tatum get punished because his Celtics squad is so good? No, I just think his running mate. Okay, I shouldn't.

Probably not soft or whatever. Another word, maybe. I just think his running mate, Jalen Brown, is more like. I'll be more afraid of Jalen Brown than Jason Taylor. Wow. Like, if I'm on the court. Lexi, do you agree or disagree? Like, if I'm approaching, I'm like...

I mean, afraid in what way? Yeah, I'm not... Like, afraid in what way, though? No, I mean, not afraid. More just like... Like, guarding? It's going to be tough today. It's going to be tough.

Like, I got to be on my shit today. Yeah. Like, I got to be on my shit. I'm not going to wait about both of them. No. Nah. I love Taylor. I've been a Taylor fan, but watching him lately, I gotta be on my team. I feel that way about both of them. No. Nah. No. I love Taylor. I've been a Taylor fan.

But watching him lately, I don't like it. It's- I feel like I can come down and get a bucket on him. Yeah. He don't, like, it's not aggressive, bruh. It's too quiet. It's too laid back. He's too laid back.

He comes down and do the tween tween every second time. You know who's laid back? Jayden Brown gonna get to it. You know, I was helping. T-Mac was laid back? Jayden Brown going to get to it. I'm, you know, I was helping. T-Mac was laid back too. Nah, that's different. What do you average? I mean, I don't know. He jumped on everybody in the goddamn world.

Yeah, we see. Don't disrespect him. I'm just saying, he was laid back. Yeah, and we see. He be like, yeah, I'd rather, yeah, I'd rather until your ass got out there and had to guard it. Yeah. Shit look cool until you got to guard it. It's different.

Yeah, it's different. What did Jayden say to Maverick? That's different. Because whoever's got to guard it. It's different. Yeah, it's different. What'd you say to him averaging? That's different. Because whoever said he's soft. He ain't soft. No, I said he's the softest superstar that's ever put on a boss at Celtics jersey. He called him soft if he want. He's averaging 20.

Yeah, that's a soft ass 28 he averaging. He's averaging a soft ass 28. Going out there getting your head busted. That's fine. I mean,. 28, 9 rebounds. Career high, six assists. 28, fine. I mean, 28-9 rebound. A career-high six assist. 29,

28-9 and six. But they was winning. I really... And then Brown got up. But you're still not answering the question. But y'all still not answering the question. That's what I'm saying.

But y'all still not answering the question. He's the softest. But you're still not answering the question, though. He's soft. I don't think soft is an appropriate word.

I don't know what soft... I don't know what soft means. I mean, soft means you're getting punked. Like you would score, and I can punk you from scoring. No, being compared to every superstar that put on a Boston Celtics uniform, is he the toughest superstar ever to put on a Boston Celtics jersey? What do you mean toughest? So Ray Allen was tough? Ray Allen's not a superstar. Is he the toughest superstar ever to put on a Boston Celtics jersey? Or is he the softest? What do you mean toughest?

So Ray Allen was tough? Ray Allen's not a superstar. But he was mentally tough. In a Boston Celtics uniform. He's not a superstar. But what I'm saying is... He is not a superstar. I'm going off of mannerisms.

Ray Allen was a quiet dude. He's not a superstar. He's not a superstar on a dangerous level. So name your superstars. Larry Allen had a lot of big moments. Paul Pierce. Ray Allen had big moments. Bill Russell.

Bob Cousy. Bill what? Larry Bird. So you got four. I mean, that's, I mean, that's, I mean. I mean. I'm just saying, so is this four? Kevin McHale.

Kevin McHale. That's it. No, that's it. That's it. No, Rondo. You got Rondo. KG. KG.

You got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, That's it. Rondo was a superstar? I mean. You got Rondo. KG. KG. You got goddamn... That's it. Rondo was a superstar? I mean, we talking about... We talking about how someone's character was a superstar? Yes, yes he was. Yes. Hell yeah. Yes. Get it done.

This name is the best power forward ever at one point. Fuck outta here. Had so many moves. That's what I hear. I'm pretty sure everybody was the best at some point back in 1942 when the league started. I'm just asking. God damn. Listen.

It was the best center, huh? Where's Kevin McHale at today? Where's he ranked? Listen, I'm just going off what you said because you said the way it looked. It don't look like it's like that. Ten them 11 30-point games this season. What are y'all talking about? I don't know what they talking about. You know what'all talking about? I don't know what they're talking about.

You know what I'm talking about? Who would you be more afraid of? If Yobis didn't exist, Tatum would be... Oh, now it's the last second. Who would you be more afraid of? The guard in the game, not scoring. I want to guard Bill Russell in the last second of the game. Get him the ball.

Give his tough-ass the ball. That's a bucket. That's a bucket. That's a bucket. Shot 39% for you. That's a bucket. Well, I want to guard the dude who's 39%. That's a bucket. That's a bucket. That's a bucket. That's a bucket. Shot 39%. Well, I want to guard the dude who's doing 39%. That's the bucket. That's the bucket.

That's the bucket. You all day, over your head. Obviously, if it was working like that, 39%. I want to guard him. Then next, I want to guard Kevin McHale next. I'm just going to go by percentage if you want to go that way. I want to go to theHale next. I'm just going to go by percentage if you want to go that way. I want to go to the motherfucker who averaged 12.

I don't want to guard a dude who got 28 a game. I still can't get an answer. Right? So, I guess you're right. Let me see if Paul Pierce... Did Paul Pierce ever average... Did Paul Pierce what? Ever what?

Average what Jason Tatum averaged. Who gives a fuck what you average? That don't mean shit. Just because... So, you're making up your own metrics now. 28 don't make you tough? 28. So what?

I know you average 28 and you average 28. I get that. There's some weird arguments that happen. I'm soft. You guarded me. I'm soft. But you can't stop me. That's a problem. I mean, look who's playing. Look who the fuck you playing with. Look who the fuck you playing can't stop me. That's a problem. I mean, look who's playing. Huh? You're supposed to be the tough guy.

Look who the fuck you playing with. They stopped him. You're supposed to be better. Look who the fuck you playing with every night. You're better. You're supposed to be tough. You're better. Are you tough?

You're better. If you're tough, why can't you stop me? You're better. Mr. Tough Guy, how am I averaging 28 if you're supposed to be tough? I mean, look who you playing with. Like, I'm playing with or playing against. Look who you're playing with. Like, if I'm soft to...

The Warriors... Why can't you drop me? Because they stopped him. That's a bad argument. Use something else. It's not a bad argument. If you're so tough... Why didn't you get finals MVP last year?

Why did you let your running mate do it? If you're so tough. If you're so all this. But... No, no. He lead in every category. I don't know. Why you didn't get it? Why you didn't get it? Why you didn't get it? Why you didn't get it? That's a bad narrative. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no punk you, right? Yes. So if you're still busting my ass, what does that really say about you? What does that say about you? From the semifinals and the finals. He didn't look like a Royal Jason Taylor. He wasn't playing like a final. He may have better stats by a little bit, but his impact wasn't as big.

We won the championship. My impact is what we won. No, because of who? Because of who? Everybody else around you. Joe who? Everybody else around you. Joe Holiday. Everybody else around you. That's what I'm saying.

Right now, if Jason Tatum left, y'all winning the championship? If Jalen Brown left, they not winning the championship. Like, it just, like, what? That's right. If Jalen Brown, if Jalen Brown leave,

they not winning. If people talk about this when Steph and them was winning all the championships? No, nobody talked about, no, they just put together. Because ain't nobody over there soft. I was about it. Because ain't nobody over there soft. Ain't nobody over there soft.

Everybody says Steph was soft. Four rings. Because he's quiet. I know he's MVP. Because he was quiet. I'm trying to figure out what the soft is. It's how you do it. How are you using it?

You just said his 28 don't even look like it could be MVP. How are you using soft, though? How are you using soft? Quiet means soft? Seth Curry was quiet. Golden State was quiet. No, no, no, no, no. Four rings.

Hell no. That ain't quiet. That ain't quiet. That ain't nothing soft or quiet about that one. Okay, so Jason Taylor is going to win four championships? I don't get it. No, that's not going to help him either. I'm just saying, they just said the way he played,

it don't look like he could get MVP. So it don't look like it could get everything so something looks so it Don't look like it's like that. It's too vanilla When this ever get mad like what like there's a I can give you a whole bunch of winners that don't Try because you have a great mannerism. You know how to hold your temper Because you don't get flustered. That's what we call it soft. No, no, no. That's not what we're saying. You know we'll be talking.

Does somebody knock me down and I walk away? You just said his 28 don't look like that. You just said, I got to go to Google. That means this much. That means it just ain't,

he averaged 28, but it's like whatever. He just plays basketball. It ain't like that. It ain't, it's just whatever. That doesn't mean soft. Wait.

You said soft. I just said, I said it's just whatever You said soft I just say Boston Celtics uniform is he the softest superstar ever and then you name four superstar. Okay, someone has to be last. Okay So, okay. Let's make him last. Okay, there it is Right so I'm right people Next I'm right right. There's more people. I'm right. So he's out of the four years Well, everybody played in the 80s. So let me... You have to be tough.

Let's take it to the chat. What does that mean? We asked the chat, who would you be more afraid of on the court, Jason Tatum or Jalen Brown? 50-50 split. Really? 50-50.

I like that. 1A, 1B. I like that. 2,100 bucks. Tim Duncan was soft. What does that mean? What does soft mean? What does that mean? Like, is it? What is soft mean? Does that mean? Like y'all are somebody like okay, you can't pray you

You can't compare them in terms of the one song. I'm gonna show you what's up bad narrative do that Yeah, this is a this is a narrative y'all using y'all should stop doing it Who is the better killer? Jordan Who is the better killer? Jordan, LeBron, Kobe. Put them in order. Killer? Mm-hmm. Michael Jordan, Kobe, LeBron.

There you go. I'll go. I'll go. I don't care. Go get it done. Right? Go get it done six times. I'll go, Kobe.

They all still kill us at the end of the day. And that's the problem with the argument. Somebody got to win. When they say, this guy is a pit bull and this guy is a cat, but the cat has more kills,

total kills, kills at the fastest mark, has more accuracy at killing, but you're calling him a... You gotta change how you use stuff. Don't care about that. It don't matter. We just want you to kill. We don't care about that little shit.

We don't care about that little shit. Just get it done. After you, you have to change how you use stuff. Because if you're calling me softy, but I'm busting your ass, it says more about you now. If you're calling me softy but I'm busting your ass it says more about you down if you're saying this guy's a killer and this guy's soft but this guy has way more kills in the in a faster time you can't use those but you gotta you you gotta describe it a little bit different no I don't know I don't

just get it done just get it done nobody wants to pity pat around you know get it get the shit done Michael Jordan every time I go get it done Six six six times killer I mean Mike went to go play baseball the fuck we talking about? He's playing golf. But that's what I'm saying. When you really want to throw it out there, you guys only use metrics when you want to talk to people. And you only use metrics when it's right for you.

You only use metrics when it's right for you. Option two, still. But still, he's the top three best shooter. It don't matter. You can't say that. It don't matter. You can't discredit someone here. But what message are y'all using for yourself? If you're saying you're a better killer than me, right if you're saying you're better better killer than me at The same rate I beat you to 500 kills

1,000 you would be 2,000 years 5,000 you meet 10,000 kills 20,000 every every kill every kill chart I got for And you got four. Four, five, six. Yeah, but that's the main thing. That's the main thing we care about. We don't care about three. If you're leading my team and we need to win and you got four and the other person got five,

that means a better kill. But you, yeah, yeah, but you. All you do is just shooting. You're just doing a lot of shooting. You might hit a lot of motherfuckers, but you ain't gonna hit the main nigga. You're gonna kill all his homies, but you ain't gonna kill the leader. But the reality is...

That's what you saying. But reality is... That's what you saying. Reality is... Almost got there. I almost got there. Oh, well. But three of my big kills, I'm doing this.

Hey, shoot him right there. I'm the sidekick. I'm not the main. That's fine. That's fine. Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? The guy who had three championships by the age of 22, He wasn't the main guy.

Like, I mean, we love him, but are we gonna talk real sports? He was a sidekick until he got rid of Shaq and did one-two for himself. So technically, when you're looking at it, he was a sidekick for three, two as a real main character. Does that not factor in? Or are we just gonna say, oh, he got five? I got drafted there. D- factor in? D-Wade. Or are we just going to say, oh, he got five? I got drafted there. D-Wade.

I got drafted there. D-Wade. Chris Boss. Sidekick, sidekick. D-Wade. Sidekick, sidekick. However you want to say it. Kobe's ahead of the check. No, when?

In the fucking, where you rate both of them? In the top five, where would you put Kobe? I don't give a fuck Where you are you sorry the song your rings came for me. It don't matter Oh, how do you rate call me a sec? However, you look at it dog it three of you. You got five three. That's fine

We was carried by Don't matter We're not we're not comparing each other. What we're saying is you're using five as a blanket. Three of them you was a sidekick. I got drafted there. So don't say you got five, I got four. You can't do that. You got to put it all into the

top of your head. Shaq didn't win. He didn't win. He didn't win with Penny. He didn't win. He didn't win. So you can't say he's a fucking sidekick. With Kobe. He didn't win with Penny. He didn't win. Until Kobe got there. So you can't say he's a fucking sidekick. With Kobe. With Kobe. He didn't win until he got Kobe. He didn't win until he got Kobe.

Right. He didn't win with Penny. He didn't win with Penny. What happened there? He didn't win before they got Kobe. He didn't win when he was 19 and 20 with Rookie? Like, what we talking about, man? Did he win a ring? Yes!

Without Rookie? Yes! Shaq won a ring at 19. No! That's when he had Penny Hardaway. But that's what the fuck are y'all judging? He didn't have a real championship team until he got to the Lakers.

He had Penny. Penny is a fucking... They were young. That's like Luca winning a championship right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's not moving. It's reality. George retired.

They had a chance. They couldn't get past. They had a chance? They couldn't get past. They had a chance? Right? They lost to the number 45. That's worse than losing to 55. We didn't lose to 45.

We beat them. What the fuck are you talking about? That's worse than losing to 55. We lost to goddamn Dream. Like, what? Like, come on, man. Be real. Be real.

Real time. Real time. 45. Mike retired. What happened those two years when Mike retired? Why nobody couldn't get it? Lost to Elijah one. OK. That's like you'll get a

very advantage of win be right now of course no he's the best player one is young no no no no y'all are y'all what's wrong with you guys we're not doing that I mean that's sidekick no no three of them no sorry it's a cold sidekick three of them your sidekick I know I them. You're a sidekick. I know. Sidekick. I understand. It's a sidekick. So we got two championships as a real number one player. Kobe got four championships in him.

So how is he a sidekick? You got three sidekick championships. So if I get two without you and you get one without me, who's a sidekick? We're talking about LeBron, right? We're talking about Shea. No, we're talking about LeBron. You said he's a sidekick.

I don't give a fuck what you won after I left. You won three with me as being the man. That is the problem. So when you talk about championships, please put it in perspective. He's not a sidekick. I have three championships as a second option, and I got two as a number one option.

You got four as a number one option. You got six as a number one option. The other guy got 11 in 13 years. He was the number one. Wait, hold on. He wasn't the number one in Cleveland? With Kyrie and him? Because it looked like Kyrie was taking all the big shots. Taking the big shots at the end of the game.

I mean, that's the same thing Kobe was doing. That's how you, in fact, that's how you got your... Brandon, what set up that big shot by Kyrie? Huh? What led to that big man by Kyrie What led to that big shot by Kyrie? I don't know they only look at the Block the block was fine, but the six points previous to put Kyrie in that. Yeah, they only look at the one shot So Jackson was the number one option when he hit the three like no stop So you saying Kobe Bryant so you saying Kobe Bryant won the number one option in the fourth quarter when it came down to it he wasn't the number one option on the team

please on the team so when it came down 20 year old the 21 year old the 22 to win it in the fourth quarter man ray allen's got one too ray house ray allen was the uh main option on miami the second championship the nigga came off the bench stop man what's wrong with y'all, man? He was a bench dude. Hit the three, though. I don't give a fuck what he hit. He's a bench dude. And I had 19 straight points. You should do something.

Hit a shot. Do something. We got you in the game. We're paying you the money. You big red. Do something. Congratulations. You hit one shot this quarter.

How y'all trying to change people's legacy because somebody on the team hit a shot? I hope they do. I had 19 straight points. Out of the 22 points in the quarter, I assisted on the rest of them. That's how his whole life is. He always do everything but the main thing.

You talking about Kobe being a site? Hold on, I've seen Jason Terry average the same amount of points as LeBron in the finals. Yes, nigga. I ain't never seen nobody do that to Kobe. He lost to Jason Terry. Jason Jason Terry average the same amount of points as LeBron in the finals. Yes, nigga. What are you talking about? I ain't never seen nobody do that to Kobe. He lost to Jason Terry. Jason Terry averaged the same amount of points as LeBron James in the finals.

How do we get here? Don't do that. We're talking about Daniel Statham. We're talking about who a sidekick. We're talking about who a sidekick. Look like LeBron was a sidekick in that final. Who was a sidekick to who? He was going to the three champions.

LeBron was a sidekick to Dirk in that final. Please save me. Okay, cool. That ain't got nothing to do with the away. Why was the sidekick the dirt in that final? Please save me Okay, cool. That ain't got nothing to do with the shit. It's a dwayne. We're talking about who's the number one option on there Oh, did the Sean Stevenson cool? We're talking about their team. They said Terry has the same points and they said came off the bench They didn't put on the same team. They came out the bench. They didn't put on the same thing Well at that way we average the same we're not playing on the same team, right? So when Kobe averaged 21, the main guy averaged 30 and 15.

That guy. Who? Shaquille O'Neal. That guy. That guy is Kobe. Wait, wait. Wait here. Wait here.

21. Don't matter. Whatever year you want. Oh, see? Oh, now it don't matter. Wait here. I need to see it. Wait here.

The first championship, Kobe averaged 21. The Dees will average 30 and 15. Who's the number one option? Do the second. Okay, second and third. Shaquille O'Neal averaged 30 and 15. Kobe averaged 29. Okay.

Should have been Kobe's, but go ahead. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Next. Next. Let's go. Next. Let's go. Because I know we have the ball in the fourth quarter. I know we have the ball in the fourth quarter. Let's go. Game winner time.

Midy at the top of the key. Listen, Midy. Finals MVP. And then he averaged 28 and 13 to Kobe's... Same numbers. To Kobe's 26 and 4. Okay, so the second one he should have got. For sure. Averaging 29 and 6.

Yeah, yeah. Because I know who had the ball in the fourth quarter. Okay, so the second one he should have got for sure averaging 29 and 6 Yeah, yeah because if that's the case because of that if you roll it with that then I'm definitely rolling then Jason Tatum So the one finals MVP then over If you gonna do that then hey with that, then I'm definitely rolling Jason Tatum to the one finals MVP then over Jalen. None of that matters. If you're going to do that then, then I'll sit up here and I'll say that. Sidekick to Shaq. Shaq or me. So we asked the chat who's more of a killer between MJ, Kobe, and LeBron? MJ won.

50% said MJ. 31% said Kobe. 19% said LeBron. We know. Nothing. We asked the chat who's more of a killer between those three. 50% said Kobe. 19% said LeBron. Yeah, we know. We know. Nothing. We asked the chat who's more of a killer between those three. 50% said Jordan. 31% said Kobe. 19% said LeBron.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Who got the most kills? Stop everything about points with you. Who got the most rebounds? Wait, wait, wait. Who got the most?

Whatever. Whatever. Whatever you want to say. Just say rings. Whatever you want to say. Who got the most it whatever whatever whatever you want to say Rings who has the most ring you don't do fucking points on how about how about this who has the most rebounds? I got fucked the rebound who has more system really like you want to use you want to make you want to get huh? Greens yeah, what's the main thing and? Stop bringing up all this fucking candy alms and greens. How the turkey tastes, nigga. Stop bringing up all the candy alms and greens.

How the turkey tastes, nigga. How was the turkey on Thanksgiving, nigga? Then Bill Russell turkey tastes better. Goddamn. Stop talking about candy alms. What about Bill Russell then? If we're going to go to championships, then Bill Russell has 11 and 13 years. But that turkey don't give a fuck.

You don't eat your auntie mashed potatoes, but you don't go eat that turkey. But what about Bill? Okay, I get you. What about Bill Russell's 13, 11 championships in 13 years? That turkey's way better then. But you don't give a fuck about the turkey no more. You don't give a fuck about the turkey no more.

That turkey was unseasoned. What about the turkey now? 11 championships in 13 years. Think about that. 11 in 13 years. No one gives a fuck about the turkey no more. Now you want to use the side. See, you want to use the side with him.

Where's the macaroni cheese with him? When you put somebody up, whatever metrics you want to use, there's going to be somebody better. He's not my goddamn position. I like my position. No, I don't know about my position. If we're going to use rings only, then 11 rings in 13 years

is the best that's ever going to be. We didn't bring up Bill Russell. Of course you don't want to bring up Bill Russell. Bill Russell could be number one. Of course you don't, Bill. I don't know. Brian ain't one. Nobody who said he was. Shit, I don't care. Bill Russell could be number one. Of course you don't, Bill. I know. LeBron ain't one. Nobody who said he was.

Shit, I don't care. Bill Russell could be number one. He's one. LeBron ain't one. Then Bill Russell's one. He's one. We talking about fucking. We started the show out.

Bill Russell's one. United, we have since separated, departed. But let's keep this thing moving. Don't like turkey no more, huh? Got love for it, huh? I love turkey. You love turkey? Talking about here's turkey unseasoned now. It was unseasoned back in those days.

I should hit his leg, man. Stop, stop. And we are back on a high note. Let's keep this thing moving though. So a panel of ESPN insiders ranked the best top 25 players under 25 based on potential in the NBA. Ooh. So what could go wrong? We know how you guys feel about it. Top 25, wait. Top 25 players under 25 based on potential in the NBA. Ooh. So what could go wrong? We know how you guys feel about it. Top 25? Wait.

Top 25 players under 25 based on potential. So is it 25 and under or 24? No. 25. 25. 24, okay. But based on potential, obviously, like we said. So surely nothing about this list will be disagreed with by anyone on this couch.

So let's take a look at the top five. Jalen Green, too low. We got the top 25 out there. Take a second, Chad. This is a beautiful graphic. Damn, they working hard. Y'all made the graphics team work hard as hell on this one. All right, guys.

Y'all earned your bread and butter. So we got Wimby holding down the top spot on the list, followed by Ant-Man at number two, Paolo Banchero, 22 years old, is number three. Franz Wagner. Shout out to the fatherland. Fourth. Chad Holmgren, fifth.

It could go either way, them three. We'll go to the whole top 10. Tyrese Halliburton currently in the sixth spot. He should be last. Who? This is considered Halliburton? Mr. B. Not last, but he should not be sixth.

Who? Halliburton. Yeah, he should be, uh... He should be like... This is all... Him and LaMelo can flip. And they added potential in there. And Cade is sitting at 13. Right, right.

Exactly. And it's Jalen Green. Jalen Green is sitting at 20. With the curl, that Filipino curl. Why Zion looks so big? Halliburton needs to be like 18. Zion can go. Green needs to be higher.

So they said Orlando got two of the top five best futures on one team. Yeah, top. Hey, Franz Wagner's been balling with Paolo out. What's up? Benchero could be, he can be, he cant. He could probably be one. He could be one. He could be one. He could possibly be one.

You put him ahead of Wimby? When we're talking about upside? Based on potential. Potential? Wimby's potential is, you can't see it, but you know it's up there somewhere. I mean, I think we've been seeing it, girl. You hope it, yeah.

You hope it. Right now, it's like hope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hoping right now. You at church, talking about the upper roof. Please, God. You at church talking about the upper room. Please. You hope you're doing everything right to go to that upper room.

Do you think Tyler Herro is low because he's almost 25? Who? Tyler Herro, because he's almost 25. Yes, based on potential, so. So his potential for 25 is gone. But you got Paolo at 22 years old, girl. You got Wimby at 20, almost 21 years old. Oh, shit.

Yeah, that's why I said you can put Ben Chero. Those three can be one, two, or three, depending on... Wimby averaging 24-10, four assists. They got Green at 20? Green, that's a pick. Nearly four blocks per game this season. I like Miller, though. I don't know if I don't...

LaBella Ball need to be hired. I haven't seen enough of Miller. I haven't seen enough of Miller. But Green is a... They're at the same age. There's one moving at a whole different rate. Kade Green should be top 10. How tall is Miller?

LaMelo should be top 10. 6'8, 6'7? Green Kade should be top 10. Mobley could be a little bit. He's still raw. Mobley could be a little bit. He's still raw. No, no, Mobley right where he at. Right at eight.

Mobley. Mobley could be four. If you have to take out two, how many could you be taking out? Of the top ten? First, give me your top five. I'm taking out Mobley. What's your top five?

Gspn. Come on, Gil. Top five? Gotta be... Where are, Gil. Top five? Got to be. Where are you getting? Top five. Oh, they're in here.

No, I like snacks. I like snacks. Come on. Come on. Who's your top five right now, Gil, based on potential? Potential. You like Kate. I'm going to go Wimby, Edwards, Banchero, Cade Green.

I'm about to say, you like Cade. Degentrified your top five respectively. A little Grant Hill. You got a little Grant Hill in the kid. The degentrified top five. So, Wimby, Edwards, Banchero, Cade, Jalen Green, your top five. Nick, how about yourself? I'll go...

Edwards. Okay. Carol, uh... Who? Carol. Uh, Hologram. Wait, who? Hologram? Who are you... You put Halliburton at five?

No, the five. I told y'all. See, y'all. See, no. See, y'all should have used that special ed picture. I told y'all. His third grade picture when he was in special ed, he was looking all up in the sky like this. Like this. It was like this.

Yeah, y'all should have used that one. So go on, hologram. Oh my god. It was like this. It was like this. You know how they do the puppies? Look straight. And they look.

That's what they had to do to him. I go Mowgli. Chet Hologram. Come on, dog. Okay, you put Mowgli in there. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm... I see.

So who you got? If he would have went to UCLA, you still put him in there? You got Holgram and Mowgli? And... Chet Hologram. Chet Hologram. That's five. No, I said Ben Carroll... Chet Hologram. Chet Hologram. That's five. No, I said Ben Carroll, Edwards, Hologram...

Mobley? Mobley and... Hologram is great. And it don't have to be in order. And, and, and, ooh. Oh my God. Sala... Williams and Green.

So no Wimby in your top five? No. Still a lunchtime Hoer in your opinion. I got Williams. I like Jalen Williams. OK, see. Williams. Jalen Williams.

Wow. OK. Let's move over to Lexi. Lexi, what is your top five? It's a defensive list. Bring back Norman. 25 players under Tony Robbins. I'm going to keep Wimby at one.

OK, good job. I'm going to switch Paolo and Ant-Man. So Paolo two, Ant three. Yeah. And then I'm going to put... I'm going to put LaMelo at four. Wise choice. LaVar appreciates you. Um... And Cade at five.

Okay. Yeah, if I got it. Yeah, that's what I got. Mr. B, you have the same? This side of the couch in agreement? I mean, I definitely got Cade and Mello in there, and I was going to take out Wimby and Wagner. So you're taking Wimby and Franz Wagner out of your top five? Yeah.

So Edward. Putting Wimby and Cade in there. I took Wimby out, too. Edward, Banchero, Cade, Mello. Uh-huh. And who's your fifth? Wait, say it again? You got Edward, Banchero, Kade, Mello. Uh-huh. And who's your fifth? Wait, say it again? Mm. You got Edwards, Benchero, Wagner.

No, he took Wagner out. He kept Chet. I kept Chet. Oh, you kept Chet. Yeah. Yeah, I got 12 and 13. So y'all thinking Wim be out because his potential is more? It's already.

Because it's already. I think it's already. It's like too much potential. You already know. Like, to me, I already know. Like, I feel like. You don't think there's nothing else? I don't know if we're already knowing. No, no, I'm not punting.

I just feel like he's going to be like, that's already. So you think he's like reached his ceiling already? No, no, not ceiling. Who was your five? Wimby, Gallo. We have the same besides Green, right? Yeah. You got Green, Melo.

I'm not mad at Melo. Like, so you're not as high up on Wimby as I thought you might be. We have the same besides green, right? Yeah. You got green mellow. I'm not mad at the mellow. Me and BJ got hootin'. So, y'all not as high up on Wimby as I thought you might be. I got Wimby out because I already know what Wimby gonna be. I feel. But you wouldn't put him in? I honestly might put Paulo one and Wimby two.

You know what's funny? It's like, if I'm gonna go like six, seven, I'm gonna go LaMelo and I'm still gonna have Zion somewhere. It's like, I would still going to have Zion somewhere. It's like, I would just have to put him in your bag. What's so funny is you just have to die with the potential. That's just one of those guys. You hope it. You know what I mean?

You're still looking at the age, like 24? You lose 30 pounds. It was so funny. He lose 30 pounds, he goes back to like one, two. Now you hope. Yeah, it's just, he's the only person on here besides probably Wimby and Benchero. Them two, yeah, Wimby, Benchero, and Zion, you die on. Like it's just one of those like, I just can't let you go.

You're just going to have to. I'm just going to be that stupid GM. No matter're just gonna have to I'm just gonna be that stupid GM No matter what's going on. I'm just gonna hold on to the leg Like from what I've seen I'm like Like I don't know if he's the number one option Like it looks like a great number two like so far because he has shade with him So I can't you know me because he has Shay and she does all that I can't... You know what I mean? Because he has Shea and Shea does all that, you can't see him by himself yet. Williams is right there behind you.

Yeah, he's ball-dominant. Yeah, because he's ball-dominant, I can't see him by himself yet. It's like that James Harden, right? You can see it, but you don't know what it is until he gets on his own team. You're like, okay, yeah, he got me. You know, that Zion is kind of hard to, like...

Yeah, that's... It's just like, man, He might come back and be like damn Like fuck everybody. I'm like why did I think why I'm not thinking Zion is cuz he hurt we gotta take him off That's what I was thinking But I think he had a bigger impact than Wimpy if he had his first I get a chair would have a bigger impact though, so I'm Why also down on Wendy right now? I guess I said I get it. Chad would have a bigger impact. So I'm honestly confused. Why y'all so down on Wimby right now?

I know. No, I have Wimby not even, I think he's going to be better than all of them. So then he's your one supreme. He's the MJ. Yeah. Right, do we have him? I expect him to do the numbers and be able to, like I expect him to keep being an all-star every year,

boom, boom, boom. But these are the five that I feel like. I don't believe. So then. He's so good, he's not on the five that I feel like I don't believe Yeah, like some people some people suck like Michael Jordan, I don't even know why we bring up Michael Jordan as a killer It's like embarrassed the wimpy shit gives me mad what that's it y'all making him like he about to be Jordan I don't see that yet. Oh, no, it's not Jordan. He just so I just I think I'm gonna be a freak though me He gonna be 20 free 20 years old 21, averaging 24 tan forces, four blocks.

I think he going to be the youngest big man to do a lot of things. Nasty, but the Spurs, top ten in the West. It might be just because it's the Spurs. Somebody said Zion equals Embiid. And I'm sitting there like, yeah, it could. One of those, like. I mean, because that's how you feel about Embiid, though I'm sitting there like, yeah, I could. One of those, like... I mean, because that's how you feel about Embiid, though.

But you know what? No. The only reason I won't put them in the same category, because Zion actually is known for going hard. Like, he goes hard. Like, you know what I mean?

Like, most of his stuff is hustle-type shit. Like, he plays the game really hard. Yeah, he plays hard. He just can't take care of his body. But... Well, when he's out there and he's healthy. Is that playing hard?

Both of them. You can say that. Is that playing hard if you can't control your eating? What... How did you eat when you... I ate bad. I still eat bad. You... Did you eat healthy? I just pasta and chicken. Oh, that... You had a chef?

I eat McDonald's and stuff. From the beginning? Mm-hmm. Yeah, from the beginning, I had a chef. Oh, that one. You had a chef? I eat McDonald's and shit. From the beginning? Yeah, from the beginning I had a chef. Oh, he did see, yeah. I mean, but I was eating, but I learned how to eat, like, you know, overseas. Overseas? So pasta and stuff like that.

Hell yeah. You gotta learn how to cook for yourself. Like, when people talk about, like, oh, he... But even, like, eating as a team, though. Like, he makes all the... Like, he does... Dry-ass chicken, salad. It's like, unless you order a chef,

which most young kids don't do, you know what I mean? You eat McDonald's. You eat McDonald's. Like, you're coming from college. You eat fast food. You've just got millions. Yeah, you eat McDonald's.

Your girlfriend who you come in with, she eat the same shit you eat. It's not like she know how to cook. The dry-ass training table at Arizona in college? Yeah. I mean, basically, like, before games, right? It wasn't an everyday thing. We had Tony Romo's and... You know what I'm saying?

We had chains. We had real... But we did have little food that we could eat. Yeah. But that stuff... We didn't have the chefs cooking for us. Exactly. Like, when Nick came...

Think about it. It's DoorDash now. It's DoorDash 2 now. What was your first year? Did we have a chef? As if delivery didn't exist from the start. But it was much harder back in those days. I post made everything, bro.

It was much harder back in those days. You had to drive like this. You couldn't order food from the house before Uber Eats. We'll go to Kentucky Fried Chicken. We'll get three boxes of chicken. What? That'd be, we'll eat that for three days. Hey, you know the move.

Leftover chicken, bro. Leftover chicken. That ain't no chicken. Hey, Gil. NBA players eat left just big boxes of chicken. What? One room done, the rest you know the rules. Leftover chicken, bro. Leftover chicken. I didn't eat a thousand chicken. Hey, Gil. NBA players eat leftovers, just big boxes of chicken. One room done, the rest of the house empty. Hey, Gil.

Look at you, bro. Hey, Gil, yo, who would you compare Zion to in the NBA that's ever came through? Or he just an actual freak? It's hard. That you've never seen before? Yeah, he's something... It's hard.

Daryl Dawkins, like, it got to be one of those... Like, Daryl Dawkins. Why aren't they comparing him to Bron when he was in... Barkley. When he's something. It's all right. Daryl Dawkins. Like, it got to be one of those. Why aren't they comparing him to Brown when he was young? The height and the jump ability. Barkley, young Barkley. He jump way. Yeah. What about Larry Johnson? Ooh, grandma, ma.

I don't know. I don't know. Grandma, ma was good. He's a, he just. He's a lefty, too. Yeah, he's so different. And he needs to go outside of the NBA to get his training regimen. I think he needs to go I think he needs to see foot seek football

And get his conditioning soccer getting his stuff. Yeah, he needs to have a Like basketball basketball the way we train is not built for for his for his We're built like this. These trainers are here for guys like Wimby and Chet and all these elongated guys and getting your muscles stretched out. They're not built for... They're not built for his muscle mass

and carrying that type of weight and moving and stopping and going. You know how football players play. So who would he be as a football player? Ray Lewis? No, I'm just talking about training. No, just keep working. Like, laying work and trying to, like, lean him out the right way. Lean him out while he still keep his explosion.

The NBA trainers ain't, they was never ready for that. Yeah, they can bust out his shoes. Yeah, they never ready. They wasn't ready for that. His shoes exploded when he was at Duke. You can't blame him. On national TV. That's great.

You can blame him, but you can't blame him. Yes, we can. Right? Because he's coming into a world where he don't know and he got to trust the professionals. Right?

And I said, you know, when you're coming into this league, it's not like college where they're practicing for three hours. Right? You got study hall classes. Everything is managed. They can manage everything.

In the NBA, you practice, and then you're on your own. So, all right, so... You know how we were in our own. All right, so what did they do at Duke then for him? And Duke is supposed to be a good, like, you know, a great program. Still college.

I know, but still, like, if... But you're known as a top program. Like, what are you doing with a player like this to help him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Lexi, you went to Duke. What was the situation like at Duke for basketball players in terms of just strength conditioning, diet, nutrition, all that stuff? Yeah, great strength coach.

Yeah. They had long-ass practices. I mean, I wasn't there when he was there, but I'm assuming it was going to be the same. We had a chef that made us meals. Yeah. Every breakfast, lunch, dinner. Y'all had a chef?

Every day? Yeah. Deuce? Yeah. I thought it lunch, dinner. You had a chef? Every day? Yeah. See your dudes? Yeah. I thought it was the cafeteria. No, we had our own. We had our own. Damn, Ted!

But that's what I said. I said it. I said it when he came in. I said, man, listen, when he comes to the NBA, he's going to blow up. I said he's going to blow up because the NBA schedule is different than college. College you're practicing. NBA you're not. Right? You're sitting there going through the motions,

so you're not burning the calories that you think you are. I mean, you're playing more games in the league, too, though. Yeah, but 36 minutes of cardio. Whoa. College is two hours of cardio. Three-hour practice. Three-hour practice is NBA. Then lift.

It's 36 minutes of cardio, right? Stop and go. Practice maybe 30, 40 minutes at best. Wow. Then you're traveling. You're at home sitting most of the time, eating food. Then you got to add the drinking and the nightlife because he's a young boy, right? You're going to sit there.

Look at an NBA player's muscles when training camp starts. Look how cut up he is. Then look in January. look soft for them they all they're looking like there ain't no cut that's why you gotta do that sauna we sit there we don't want to work out we need to sit there and sauna no that's a fact but it hurts too when you hurt you just gain weight bro that shit crazy are you like that's what I said it Like, for him to... For him to lose weight... He need to get out of New Orleans. It'll be a miserable year for him.

He need to get out of that damn city. It's all them crawfish. New Orleans got good food. He should talk to Mello. For sure. He should talk to Mello. Yeah. Mello had that type of body. He should talk to... Mello had that type of body. He should talk to...

Mello had that type of body. He should talk to... Udonis Haslam. Yeah, Haslam. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fact. Kevin Love.

I mean, there's a lot of guys. I'm pretty sure something like that, they were probably doing vegan in the summer, because your body don't really... Yeah. You're not straining like that for the season. Probably vegan, fish, a lot of fish, seafood, stay away from steaks, some type of sugars. Don't eat late. Don't eat the plain food.

But don't eat the plain food. If you really want it, plain food's a fuck up. You're a diet, though. This is not acting like this. This is four years, bro. A diet. Come on, man. Come on, bro.

It's four years. It's not even a diet. We don't eat right now. He got to make a complete lifestyle change. If you coming in, you got your own team from the start. A complete lifestyle change. It's a lifestyle change, got your own team from the start? A complete lifestyle change. Is it lifestyle change, Dad? Nah.

You're talking about a lifestyle change for five years. It's not just food. I can't have a same lifestyle change for five years. Now, at that point, it's something else. Bro, you still eat the same way. It's been 20 years. I ain't never had the face of a team, though, motherfucker. It don't matter.

I ain't never been the face of it. I ain't never seen everybody talking, calling me fat every time on TV. That shit don't bother you? Motherfucker call you fat? They say you eat everything, and you still eat? And we always know. What type of brain is that? The fat ones have a brain.

Everybody calling me fat, and I'm still just... But what happens? The fat ones, what, work out the most? Hell no. They appetize just a lot of people. No, no. This is true. It's stuff like this.

Like, stuff like this. As y'all know, y'all see me every day. Like, stuff like this. Like, if I put on a neck, and I'm saying, yo, you got to do two miles a day, I'm going to tell you, do the two miles 8 p.m. Do the two miles at night when your metabolism is about to be burned out. Do it day and night. Right? Because you're eating.

Like, when you wake up, your metabolism is popping. You're going to go through practice. You're going to do the movement. What happens is once you're done practicing, you're going to take in so many calories. And then just sit on that. And you're going to sit on it. So 8 o'clock, you're going to burn off what you ate.

And then by the time you go to sleep, you're still going to be burning whatever you ate. So you will lose weight with just changing your your miles right before you get on a plane Boom, just go to the Sun do tomorrow. Hi yoga. Don't have to move Hi yoga do something as a fat person in transition. You're absolutely right transitioning right now back to skinny, but uh You're actually right. You gotta do that night workout Zimpy brother Zip it neck though But, uh, you're actually right. You got to do that night workout. Man, you got to hit that ozempic, brother. But you hit the ozempic neck, though.

Like, I'm not rolling with that. O-zempic neck. Do it this time. You about to call me fat, boy. What the hell is an ozempic neck? Do it this time. When you look at me like, ah, you didn't work out. I'm going to turn right into a bobblehead.

He wasn't at it. I'm going to turn into a bobblehead head bigger than the body. That's cheating the game. That's something I would not do. Hell, everything. I see ads for that everywhere now. It's crazy.

Pearl Zempik. Let me get 10 more pounds on me. What? Hit that motherfucker so fast. Or what? They be, I don't know what. They be sitting there like, I'm not a no one. Zempik.

What? What? Hey, don't tell me. Don't tell me. I didn't know what they be sitting there like I'm not a no one's in bigger. What? What hey don't tell me don't tell me how to get the abs right my job was to get to the ass Boy I'll be sponsored by a big boy I am called the CEO. You see these three abs right here? You got the three-pack? Going live. I do the shit. Y'all want to see how you... These motherfuckers that lost 40 pounds ain't run a mile talking about

I ain't no Zip-Bick. You better thank those Zip-Bicks for looking like that. Shit. You can't cheat the grind, ladies and gentlemen. Yes, you can. Hey, the job is to be skinny. You can cheat it all you want. Real, real. These four miles every day. It's in the summertime, man. You better Job is the beast

Nobody care about what y'all take the bell I can start there start it. Oh, I don't look right though. You look slimmer But I look right. I look better than I look before Well, let's go had the fat head and the fat body. Now I just got the head. No, it was their big neck. But let's keep this thing moving. So we talked about Wimby occupying the top spot on ESPN's Top 25, under 25. And real quickly, before we move, everybody in the chat who was saying,

Ja, Ja turned 25 in August, not eligible for this list. Yeah, like, do y'all think that they didn't research that? Oh, Ja, Luca. They were just saying that they might have, you know, been doing jaw dirty, still punishing him. But nonetheless, so after finishing with just 22 wins last season, Spurs made some big offseason moves, have been making great strides in Wimby's second year.

So Wimby dropped his first triple-double of the season Sunday, finishing with an impressive 34 points, 13 rebounds, 11 assists, and three blocks. He was 11 for 17 from the field, 5 for 9 from deep. Wimby scored 13 of his 34 in the fourth quarter, helping the Spurs secure the win. So Devin Vassell added 21 points off the bench. Chris Paul had 13 and 10 dimes as well. San Antonio hit a franchise record 23 threes in the game, shooting 50% from deep. Spurs have won five of their last six games

and are one of ten teams in the West with a winning record. He posted that? See, he heard y'all lunchtime Hooper shit. I mean, I just don't understand why he want to shoot all them damn threes when he could just do that. That's why I was mad. Or just chill around the rim

and wait for them to throw it up. Like, if you want to take fucking step-back threes from 35 feet, I don't. Wimby a fan of Gills Arena presented by underdog. I mean, he's making them. So, shit, I guess. So, Spurs have won five of their last six games, one of ten teams in the West with a winning record, currently in the tenth spot.

But let me just give you a little bit more information. Spurs have 11 wins in 20 games this season. For comparison, they didn't get their 11th win until their 54th game last season. But we talked about some of their big offseason moves. Obviously, you've got to show some love to CP3. Bringing an actual

true vet point guard in there to pair up with Winby. How much has Winby benefited from playing with CP3 this season? Just tell them to refresh their audio. Okay. Everybody bitching about the audio, just refresh the feed. Do it quickly, though, or you're going to fuck the numbers up. Boy, you an instigator.

He's an instigator. What? Steve said, yeah, can you just tell them to refresh? You motherfuckers out here complaining and shit. Refresh your shit. Refresh your shit. Refresh your shit. He said, bitch ass niggas over there complaining, like, wait a minute, Joe.

Wait a minute. Read our lips. Tell them something, Joe. If the audio don't work. Tell them something, Joe. Tell them something, Joe. As you know, some people in the chat made me live respectfully. Hey, you got hot.

Hey, you know, did he? Steve was like, hey, can you tell me to refresh? Oh, you bitch ass niggas complaining and shit. Like, damn. Do it quick. Don't fuck our numbers up, all right? Fighting against the algorithm right now. Hey, they over there looking like, Joe mean now.

Joe's been real mean now. Chad very mean to me, but we got a love-hate relationship. So. Yeah, you too. Shout out to him. He's fast, though, Keith. It's okay. You had an opportunity, and you took it.

Hey, Joe must have read some shit. It was like, yeah, see? Y'all look at all the comments, as you know. Love it. Love it. Y'all look, I'm merely a host. I love it. I read all the comments.

I especially read them. What's today? The third. Guess what? Direct deposit hit on the second never fails Don't be full But hit that we told you to say one cuss word. You said 55 of them.

Thank you. All right, so Chad giving me some love now. I am not Piru, sir. I am not Piru. Sorry. I am not Piru. I am not Piru. I am not Piru.

I never heard somebody spell it Piru. I am not a gangbanger. Merely a host, as you all know. Merely a host. He go, ooh, he go, Piru. Piru. I am not Piru. I am not Piru. I am not Pyro. I am not a member of the Pyro gang. But how much would we be benefited from playing with CP3 this season?

11 and 9 right now. I mean, is this gonna be tough for any other point guard that come in after CP? What he's used to playing with. You think so? Nah. I'm trying to figure out, like... I don't think it's gonna be tough. I mean, his numbers are almost exactly the same.

But it's the touches, though. But it's how he's getting the ball, though. You got Stephon Castle right now learning underneath CP3. Obviously, this is not a long-term fix, but just a temporary situation. I don't know if he's benefiting. Like, it's not like... They look better as a team.

Yeah, they look better as a team. But Wimby is doing the same exact thing. The functionality of the team look better. I don't know if Wimby, because it's not like it's them two, like, pick and roll Blake Griffin style. You know, it's not like... It's just a two-man game,

like, Stockton and Malone style, where he's really... But he's older. But he's older. I know. But it also depends on how he's getting the touches, though. You know what I'm saying? Because last year, he was probably just getting the shit off the rip. Now he's probably. I know. But it also depends on how he's getting the touches, though. You know what I'm saying? Because last year, he was probably just getting this shit off the rip.

Now he probably, you know, throwing it down. He seen what he was doing. We called him Lunchroom Baller. He just started doing this shit. He just started doing this shit. But you got Stephon Castle waiting in the wings, obviously, Ricky. So he's going to learn underneath CP3. But just getting some structure.

We saw last year, you know, it was a lot of looking Wimby off, not giving him the rock. I think it's like more team, like it's more for the team understanding how to play the game of basketball. Right? You know, them it was just like, we out here just playing, we just out here hooping. I think like CP brings in stability,

vet, professionalism, structure, like you know, he has a stern he got a stern fist you know like he demands greatness he demands everybody to be on page so learning from a guy like that early does help in the long run so we might not see the real effect today it might kick in next year and the following year well I mean we should have seen women's numbers improve listen to the scoring I think we're mounting down a little bit

with the blocks, but it seems like he watched your lunchtime Hooper comments, had the 50 piece on the Wizards, dropping a triple double like this. It's starting to expand. Y'all said he's posting up a little bit more. Yeah, I think, well, I think that's just him,

I would say. I wouldn't want to say listening to us, but just really trying to figure out ways, other ways to score instead of selling for 10 threes a game. I think that seven-point game, he took 10-9. He's still going to take all them threes. That's not going to change. I mean, what's going on, bro?

Nine threes? Nine, nine, 14, 13, 13, 16, 12. 13, 16. He took 16 threes? Those are his last six games. That's crazy. I got, like, somebody, like, 16 threes. Like, somebody has to sit down with him with film

and just show, like, these first two years, right, you can really dominate because the game is not meant for you. Yeah. It's one of those things where you're a loophole here where you can, you're a loophole trying to fit in. Yeah, basically, for sure. You know what I mean? This is like Shaquille O'Neal being dropped in today

and then he going to sit out there and chuck threes up. Nah. There's nobody built to guard you down there. You can rewrite the game. he can rewrite the game that's LeBron yeah he can sit here and sit here and be sitting here doing a whole bunch of layups and sit here doing his little runners your seven foot miss that re-dunk it back you can do that right now and next this summer everybody's gonna try to figure out how to redraft and how to repeat players up just to stop somebody like you so when beat last seven games I have 32 points 10 rebounds 5 assists shooting 12 threes a game double shooting 41 percent from three fifty four percent from the

potential freezing in those last seven good people don't remember well he's a 12 threes a game okay that's a lot lot That is a lot of people remember that he used to go to the hole I think everybody trying to be a seven-foot some Katie's now reason Goddamn Katie's a marksman. His name is was an easy money snipe sniper. He's shooting from the three. And he don't shoot the threes. He don't shoot threes like that. He shoot them, but he doesn't. Because he's not wasting shots chucking shit. Yeah.

So when he do shoot the three, it look like. He going to shoot the open one. I'm going to shoot my wide open three. Easy. It starts off, easy money sniper. He's not taking more than six a game. He's never taken more than six a game in his whole career. Who, KD?

KD. Three's a game. What year was that? No, he's never taken more than six. Oh, he's never. What year was six? He shot 6.7, 20, 15, 16, OKC. And that's been his highest.

Damn. OK, damn. That's crazy. I know. Easy money, Schreiber. I would have never thought that. Me either. Six is not a lot at all. That's not a lot at all.

Damn. But... Like, how about Devin Booker? Like, you got guys who are real three-point threats. They just don't waste their time. But you can't call up... They know you can't guard them. They get called up in that he can shoot and he wanted prove to people they could shoot type shit, too, though.

I wonder why y'all so open all the time. That was the thing. That was the thing. You have to be mindful as a hooper. Yeah. Right? Don't settle for what someone wants you to do, right? You don't need to prove to someone you can't.

Yeah, that you can do it. If you can't shoot, you don't need to prove that you can by sitting there. I'm going to do one of these, wave off and shoot it. And you shoot it. All right. Like, no. Like, I don't want to guard you, so I'm going to sit this far back. If you come closer, I'm in trouble now.

Now you're making me play defense. Like, you know how, like, you're playing one-onone, and you doing the same move, and you can't stop? Man, do something else. Oh, why? You got to be a dummy to do something else. I'm going to get an in-and-out and a layup. In-and-out, I'm going to do 21 in-and-out layups. Like, I'm not going to sit here and make my shit difficult.

Just because you mad. You keep hoisting up all the time. I'm trying to win. No, for real. Like, I think once he gets that. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't I do the thing that?

That I'm winning with. Score easily on him. Yeah. 12 through the game is nuts. But that also got to, I don't want to put it on Pop, but you got to be. So Pop's been out dealing with the house situation, but. Pop not there.

Who's coaching? That's what I believe. Mr. Johnson. No, it's just his style. And, you know, I think that that's his style coming in from, you know, Euro. And that's what he's been seeing, too. Yeah. And that's what they're teaching him.

YouTube. So it shows them highlights. It just, I mean. Highlights. He can just be more YouTube. All they show is them highlights. They just, I mean... Highlights. He can just be more dominant. Like, take six threes, that means there's six more shots that you are... Closer to the hoop. Closer to the hoop

that you're gonna shoot a higher percentage. Take eight threes a game, shit. Huh? Take eight threes a game. 12 is nuts. Everybody want that, you know, that flick. Oof. Shout out, Wimby. Shout out, Wimby.

That's the Michael Redd. Michael Redd? Yeah, that was the Michael Redd. That flick? Yo shit like that a little bit when you used to dribble. Michael Redd had the flick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Wimby has 47 buckets off assists from CP3 this season. 47?

Just for context. Next closest on Spurs is Stephon Castle with 15. So, CP3 giving him a little more. Oh, damn. 15? They're not looking. Wait. Wait.

So, after CP, he has the most assists to Wimby at 15? Yeah. So, CP... They're not passing the ball. Oh, what do you say to the ball? Are they still not giving him the ball? Nah, they... Yeah. Not every bucket is a sister. ...had one assist to Kobe in like two years.

That's crazy. 15. 15 is nothing. What?! He said he had one assist to Kobe. It was crazy. It was a crazy stat. You were not giving the rock up, Nick. Nah, I respect it. That's happening. I am loving it. Gil's call. Gil used to call.

The motivational speech. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He used to call. Look at his nose. Like, hey, man, look, man. It's gonna be all right, man. Just stay focused. Keep watching. Hey, Gil, get off the phone. Yeah, that nigga's done. He done. He done.

I owe $300. Thank you for acknowledging that, Gil. But let's keep it in Texas. Oh, you did say anything. Talk about a surprising team in the Western Conference for some, but Rockets have four players on the ESPN Top 25 Under 25 list. And Alperin, Shangoon, Jalen Green, Amin Thompson, and Tyree Easton. And after finishing 11th in the West last season, Houston looks like they're ready to end their playoff drought.

They face one of the toughest tests of the season Sunday against the top-seeded Thunder. Let's take a look at the highlights. So Fred VanVleet dropped the season high 38 points, going 10 for 19 from the field, 5 for 9 for 3, and 13 for 14 from the line. Shangoon added 20 points, 14 rebounds, and nine dimes. And Dylan Brooks had 16 and seven boards.

SGA led the Thunder with 32 points, eight rebounds, and five dimes, going 10 for 19 from the field, three for seven from deep. Jaylen Williams added 22, five, and seven assists. And Isaiah Hartenstein had 19 and 13 boards. Oh, damn. That's tough. Boom. There it is. That's tough. Boom. There it is.

That was a crazy grenade. We got to talk about situation in the game, though. The game tied under a minute. Remaining things got turned up after F.J. and Dylan Brooks got tangled up battling for a loose ball. Yeah. But it was just some Canadian chicanery as both could be seen smiling during the O'Dell. But Brooks won the jump ball, came through, missed possession, hit the nice fadeaway.

Okay, see? 33 seconds left in the game. That's what we want to see. That's that dog, man. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Give me my championship. Give me my ring. Tatum, do that shit right there. I feel feel like Tatum had that ball. Give me that ball

All right, he ain't doing it. Give me that shit from and he gonna smile How much is your hair and then you the because he's snatching from shade 32. They lost I don't care. He lost me snatching that ball. That's why you lost. That's why you lost That's why when it came down already punked you got punked right here So Rockets are 10 and 2 in their last 12 games after starting the season 5 and 4 now That's why you lost. That's why you lost. That's why you lost. That's why when it came down, I already punked you. You got punked. Right here. So Rockets are 10 and 2 in their last 12 games after starting the season five and four. Now just a half game behind the Thunder

for first in the West. Interesting note, Rockets have just one player on their roster that's made an all-star game. That's Fred VanVleet who did it in 2022 with the Raptors. He was an all-star? 2022. Man, I did not know that. 2022, only player on their roster who made an all-star. Man, someone's gonna be an all-Star? 2022. I did not know that. 2022, only player on their roster who's made an All-Star.

Who's going to be an All-Star on this team? Shout out FVV. How many All-Stars is Houston going to have? Houston? Depends on where they stay at. Second in the West right now. Like I said, a half game behind the Thunder for first in the West. Because we talk about Cleveland going to have three or four.

So how many is Houston going to have? Depends on where Houston at. We saw this team last year go on a run, trying to threaten the Warriors for that 10th spot in the playoffs. I'm saying they might not have any. Even if they're second, they got no one really playing like an all-star. All right, the Senators, they get them, man. Yeah, but they might have to have Atlanta.

18 and 11. Sangoon. Yeah. He might be the only one. Baby Joker, as he's known in some circles. But looking at this Rockets team Obviously, I made open in double digits though. Yeah, they had a great summer to me a very balanced scoring attack They got seven people average. You've got a great summer to me But looking at this rocket team are the Rockets for real or Fugazi too early. Yeah, they're babies

So truly, um winning a championship this year because I don't even know if they gonna be right there once all-star break starts So they gonna finish second by all-star second, but I'm saying they gonna be 15 and 6 right nice Listen, I think so. I'm gonna say they for real. Yeah, I mean not championship I'm not saying championship, but this is a team that finished 11th in the West last season. Obviously, they went on that. So they OKC'd it.

Yeah. Finished 11th and came back. And they won the first round. But they was together. It's not who they play. OKC came. OKC won the first round last year. So, obviously, this is a hypothetical,

but if the playoffs started today, they would be facing the Phoenix Suns. Ooh. They out of here Phoenix Suns. Ooh. They out of here. Don't know. They out of here. They out of here. This is it.

They out of here in five. They might win. They out of here in five. I'm not playing. I'm not buying. Phoenix Suns lost last year. They out of here in five. They lost last year.

To who? To another superstar. To Go-Burr. To a superstar team. Go-Burr. They lost to Ant-Man. They lost to Go-Burr. They lost to Ant-Man.

They lost to Go-Burr. Listen, they out of here in five. Two beat Go-Burr. To a superstar team. Go-Burr. They lost to Ant-Man. They lost to Go-Burr. They lost to Ant-Man. They lost to Go-Burr. Listen, they out of here in five. Two beat Go-Burr. If they play Phoenix, they out of here in five against Phoenix. Where Phoenix at right now? Healthy? They're seven.

All right, then. Healthy? They've been injured. All right, then. So they'll be hurt. So they'll be out of it. And I still don't think they can beat Kevin Durant for it.

They're healthy now, right? Are they healthy now? But I mean, I like them. He need help now. I like when young teams, man, I like when young teams, like, come out good early. Because it seems like they're sustaining it. Like you mentioned, seven players averaging double figures right now.

Very balanced scoring attack. Jalen Green leading the team in scoring to 19 points per game. Shangoon averaging 19 and 11, five assists. OKC? They get along, I feel like. So do you feel like this is the team like OKC when they first came out? Yeah. Like KD and Russ and all them? I seen it.

I'm not saying like that, but being young like that and continuing to be good. Yeah, they're good because they got movable pieces, because they got seven dudes that can put the ball in. They don't need all of that, right? So I'm pretty sure they're going to try to figure out which pieces fit, right? And then get rid of them. But I'm pretty sure Frey to be gone. Man, that's a good question, too, though.

Frey to be gone. You can bring in somebody. Or you keep Frey. It doesn't matter. I feel like they would keep Frey. He's one of keep Fred. It doesn't matter. I feel like they would keep Fred. He's one of those guys that really don't matter. If he can get something better or not, or get some more value pieces for him.

I'd get rid of Fred. I'd get rid of him. You would get value pieces for the younger guys, though. No, somebody needed, like... You need a Fred. We need a Fred. So Van Fleet has a team option this summer for $45 million.

Team option? Team option, 45 mil. Well, that's going to be a big decision for him. Yeah. Because if he can keep them the second, he might opt out. So he can get more? Get a little bit more.

And you think he would get that in Houston, or he would... Don't matter. Not in Houston. Not in Houston. They're going to go with him. But he got a team option. Oh, he has a team option.

Oh, so they got to pick it up. Yeah, Rockets have him. Oh, so they can keep him. So if he does... They're going to try to negotiate. Yeah, Rockets have it. Oh, so they can keep him. So if he does... They're going to try to negotiate. Yeah, we'll give you... 45 mil though.

They could try to trade him. Let's try to trade him. Let's try. But he gets 45 this year? No, so he's getting 43 this year. He can get 45 next year with the team option. They're not going to pick it up. You don't think so?

Because they can waive it this summer, right? Yeah, they haven't, I think, until what? I think it depends on how they fit in. I think they trade. It's just like some football shit. I'll wave it, and then you go to the open market. If we want you back, we sign you back, which is not going to happen because you're going to be mad.

Or they could trade it for some draft picks. If they don't pick up his team option, he's not going to come back to them. Yeah, I can just not pick up his team option. So I... I have $45 million. But if you trade, you get some back, though. I'm not gonna get $45 million back.

For Fred VanVleet? No way. You don't need no more draft picks. They're young as hell. He's averaging 16 and 6 this season. 45, like... Like you know my Black Santa. Shout out to Baron David. But you could get, like... Black Santa. Shout-out Baron David. But you could get, like, a Reeves or...

Reeves don't make that kind of money. You get Reeves and a Leet Dulo and a... Oh, I got a good... You got to give me the... He don't want that. But then you could trade that. I'm talking about, like, a three-people trade. How much does A.D. make? Let me pull it up. He's making that.

A.D. just got that new bread, though. I don't know if it's kicked in yet. But you could pull it up. He's making that. A.D. just got that new bread, though. I don't know if it's kicked in yet. But you could put them together. They both make it $45 million. A.D.'s making $43 million this year, but 50... He's making the same... But 58 next year, 62, and then 66.

He's making the same as A.D.'s. Don't Fred Van Vliet. That's what... Like, no one's going to make that trade even. Yeah, because... How much does Austin Reeves make? A.D. in L.A. So, Austin Reeves... 15, 17? You got to put, like he's in Houston. How much does Austin Reeves make? 80 in LA. So Austin Reeves...

15, 17? You got to put like four people in. This NBA money is stupid. So Austin Reeves making 13 this year, 14 next year, and then... 13 with D-Lo and... Play your option. D-Lo, Rui, like you got to give...

You got to give it to all the MTs. Four. And a pick. You got to give me... No, it has to match. The money has to be paid. It will match, though. You got to give me... So $ has to match the money has to be a match though. You got to give me

15 or six down on with you though and the pink I'll take would be dead over at up to 10 on the your first we love dealer free agent after this season He's in the last year of his deal. That's why but this year three players does not work Fred That's you for would you treat. Would you trade D'Lo straight up for Fred? Would I trade him for Fred? Straight up. Right now?

If I'm in the Lakers? Who am I, though? Because Houston ain't going to take that. Oh, you could, and you'd get rid of him. You don't have to figure it out. You know what I'm saying?

Like, but if that's straight up, If they wanted to make that trade, would you want to trade? Okay, that's what I'm saying. So if you wouldn't do it if you Houston why would I throw you why would this like Get I could get more that's why Lakers like why would I want him and I got to give you all this like? All this for him. You're not

What are you doing with all this it don't matter? I'm getting rid of three pieces that averages together what forty some points for a dude that averages 16 I only needed somebody that's consistent doing the dough. I got 16. We ain't happy with it Damn, that's crazy. Dito averages what 16? Let me see might be a little bit lower than that now Hello His values to his money's too high so Hello, you know his values to his money's too high so

His money his money's way too high. So they're gonna let it go. They're not gonna they're not gonna Know Dilo's averaging 13 and 5 In last money they're gonna have left cuz then all the young guys just resign So if they got that one hasn't signed you hasn't signed yet, right? No, Shang-Goon and Jalen Green both signed. Oh, they both signed? They're low, right? Jalen Green was lower, I believe, than Shang-Goon. Like, Jalen Green signed one that gave him maneuverability, I believe.

It seems like they're trying to keep them together for a little bit. Yeah, so Jalen Green only signed a three-year deal, three-year extension, but with a player option. So two years and a player option. And then Shang-Goon signed four years. Well, if extension, but with a player option. So two years and a player option. And then Shangoon signed, uh, four years. Reed don't play? Well, we see who they want to keep. Sheppard Reed, he averages three.

Gets by eight minutes a game. Or, no, 11 minutes. Damn, he don't play. And then Shangoon has a player option, 29-30. So he's got a five-year deal with the player option. Okay, so back to my question. They're not gonna have no all-stars No, they will have one if they stay where they're at. They're gonna have one all-star

sin Stay scheduled if they do if they do but it was if they do and it stays the average in about the same right here Then you're gonna go sand Sangoon. Yeah, one person. That's it. Because when it comes guard play, I mean... That's true. 19 points a game as a guard today, there's nothing. That sucks.

So let me pull up... But we can't knock you four because you're not scoring as much because you're trying to win. Yeah. So it hurts him. It hurts Jalen for all-star stuff, but it helps you for team. Yeah.

So Rockets... Dunk, see if he'll be all right. They're at the Kings. He's got to do some flying. He has to do the... But he did with Cade. No, you remember Steve Francis. He had Steve Francis to join,

where Steve Francis making all-star averaging 16. Bounce that off the backboard. When you're on the open break, show the kids what they want to see. Yeah, show the kids what they want to see. Trust me, they're going to vote you in. So Rockets' next seven games are at the Kings, then at the Warriors, then at the Clippers, then they got the Pelicans at home, then at the Raptors, at the Hornets, and then at the Pelicans.

So potential. Five and two. Five and two, yeah. Yeah. Might lose one or two. I love when good two, yeah. Yeah. Might lose one. I mean, listen, I love when good teams, I mean, young teams play well early. Yeah, and that's, I mean, we've been monitoring this squad. Like I said, they had a lot of success late last season.

They look like they're ready for a playoff. Like the Cavs. The Cavs are a young squad, right? No. Cavs are young to you? They're mid, they're mid. With Donovan Mitchell as their number one? Yeah, I mean, but.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you can consider them young. Not this young. I'm not saying, because everybody under 25... Yeah, not this... They're not this young, but they... They're pretty young. Okay. Nah, because Allen...

They had two on the list. They had two on the list. Allen, they sooner, oh... That's what I'm saying. They average, what, about 26, 27? They're sitting here by, like, at 22, 23. Oh, okay. All right. All right. Never mind. They only got Garland and Mobley. That's young. You're right.

Never mind. Hold on one second. Let me take a look. I don't know if this is updated. You're getting younger and younger and younger. Shit. So Rockets have the 11th youngest team. I think the average age is 25.

25? Damn. That means they got some old players sitting on the back. Cavs are six, though. They're average. Oh, no. They're though. They're average. Oh, no, they're older. They're older.

Excuse me. Hold on. Let me sort it. Who's the youngest team? OKC still? Trail Blazers are 24.3. And then Detroit. Thunder, 25.

Nets are 25. Rockets, excuse me, fourth 25-year-old. Where are the Pistons at? Rockets is fourth? Yeah, fourth youngest team. Where are the Pistons at? Pistons are sixth youngest team, 25.1. Jesus.

Who's the oldest team? The Sixers at 29.5. are sixth youngest team, 25.1. Jesus. Who's the oldest team? The Sixers at 29 years old. Which is still crazy. The Lakers? Lakers are 26th at 28. So nobody has an average age.

The top four oldest team. Wait, wait, wait. That's so crazy. OKC's where now? OKC's second. Second youngest team in the league by age. Oh, so they're the second best youngest team. You see, if you Portland, you're

going to have to refocus because you got two teams in the top five. That are young, like you. That are playing well. Yeah. One and two. Shit, shit. You at the bottom.

You can't use young shit. They got the fire. Some people. Oh, sound's still an issue. If you have any issues with your sound, refresh. But the thing is, if you can't hear me say that, you ain't going to do this shit anyway. You have to figure it out one way or the other.

Can you type in the chat? Some of you are on Broke Boy Wi-Fi, and that's the reality. You did not add audio. You did not add audio. Broke Boy Wi-Fi. Let me start using that shit on women. I'm going to name my Wi-Fi that. Broke Boy Wi-Fi. You did not add audio. Broke boy Wi-Fi. You start using that shit on women, right? I'm going to name my Wi-Fi that.

Broke boy Wi-Fi. All right, let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by our friends at Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-up. Gil, we did not talk about this earlier in the show, but Jason Tatum betrayed you last night. I think you had lower 2.5 rebounds in the first quarter.

Y'all, I hate when y'all look at something and jinx me, bro. Hey, and he a killer. No, he rebounded. He won and got more rebounds. He got more rebounds. Right, but he can't get you paid. I was four for five. Hey, look, if you take...

If it was Bird, Bird would have got you paid. Bird would have stayed under 2.5 for gives it to I got four out of five this way Not thinking that you already know where this is going This is what happens. You the op! Shit! This is what happens. We play around in the arena. It's flooding. Don't worry. Just water.

Just water? There's too much going on on that side of the house. I don't know why you put a bookie in. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on, man. This man had two surgeries, man. Wait, what happened to the other one? Both of them.

Yo, what happened to the other one? You got surgery? Or you just wanted it to match? I got a drink. You just wanted an accessory? No, he just wanted it to match. No, no, no. I got a drink. Oh, wanted an accessory? It was a dream.

No, he just wanted it to match. No, no, no. I got a dream. Oh, for? Oh, you did? What does that netting do? Yeah, what it? Nothing.

What does the netting do? Gave his ass to that. I've never seen that before. He got no netting. Just those are the ones. You know, the little fruit, the little Asian pears? I had a wrap. You know, the little Asian pears that comes in a little white?

Yes. That's what that is. Yeah. No, I had a wrap, but it's big. I ain't. Talking about where fruit come in. Did a little fruit come in that little?. Yes. That's what that is. No, I had a wrap, but it's big. Talking about where fruit come in. Did a little fruit come in that little? I've never seen that before.

Yeah, this is only made for swaggy. That's why. It's actually low key stylish with the shorts. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of a look. Fishnet. Kind of. They're like a whore.

Fishnet. They got a white little fishnet like, woo! Down fit. How much? Standing on a corner. How much, swaggy? 150. How much?

150. 150. 150. Funny you mentioned that, Brandon. Somebody in the chat earlier did say that Nick may be on Figaro later today. Dang, that's what happened. I'm just saying with the chat. You left him in the car, bro.

Oh, pay up, Gil. All right, all right. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We are not done yet. We got mostly fans. Oh, my bad. We're standing by Underdog. Okay, mostly fans.

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But first question from Underdog user RayDot22. Which hotels were the best and worst to stay at on the road? What's number one? Number one? Ooh. We're not staying at the worst hotel no more. They moved us, so. They upgraded y'all?

Yeah. We were in Arlington when we played Dallas. What time was it? It was nasty. Utah. Everybody hated it. Where'd they have y'all staying at? I don't even remember, but it was the worst hotel I've ever been in my life.

I think Utah. Utah or Cleveland. Because Cleveland was still connected. It was still a Ritz. But that shit was trash. Yeah, but it's still the Ritz, though. We stayed up for the Westchester. When they were at the Westchester place.

Oh, it was so nice. Everyone got, like, big old sweets. San Antonio. Where do y'all stay at in San Antonio? I don't know. By the Riverwalk.

Sheraton? I think it's San Antonio. Oh, no, my bad. Sacramento. What the hell? Sacramento. The Sheraton. The Ritz?

The best or the worst? The best or the worst? The best or the worst? Oh, y'all was Milwaukee Bucks, of course. You played for Milwaukee, Detroit. Y'all, y'all budgeted a little bit. Wait, is that the best or worst hotel? There's a Ritz in Sacramento? I don't know. No, I said Sacramento had to be the worst hotel.

It's cracking me up. You said the worst. No, no, no, the worst hotel. We said Ritz. They didn't have the Ritz? They didn't have a Ritz there? Ooh, they got a new hotel. No.

They had the Sheraton or the Hyatt I'm looking right now. I do not see a risk off in the Sacramento That I don't know I had to put no goddamn real money Not the president is just we so everything looked the same to me Was trash No, it did not. No, it did not. No, it did not. No, it did not. Utah was trash. Utah? No. No, no, no.

That big hotel in Utah was all right with the toy store inside. O.K.C. You remember that? That was the one that had like, it was just floors and it had like the big opening so it's like college. You just look down and you know. Beale Street. I like those hotels.

Oh, I hate those hotels. You like those? Oh, we can see everybody creepy. We can see everybody creepy. What y'all doing? Ducks. Memphis. You can run around in a circle with the ducks. Memphis.

Memphis with the ducks. No, the Peabody? Yeah. No, that was a nice hotel. Was not. Peabody was trash. We just had fun there. That's why it was nice to- That was trash.

Remember we had fun? You gonna give me some head like you promised? That's what I was- Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was nice. The hotel. Okay. I do not want to know that story. Utah was trash. You'll give me some head like you promised The hotel, okay I do not want to know that Utah was trash. I do not want to do this Utah they got the humidifiers in room. I didn't know that I

Was honest only the only places that I thought was trash is that they didn't have room service when we got there it didn't have like After 10 service, I didn't like you I don't like the whole hotel. That's a fact. That's why four seasons always was. Because you remember, there was no Uber East then, so you get there, like, 3 in the morning, you hungry. So that means any team that didn't have a five-star hotel then. Because that was the only ones back then. My rookie year in 09, for sure, there's a lot of trash hotels.

They got to have a nice gym and a nice pool. That's how I determined if a hotel's nice. They got a nice gym. Man, if they don't say the Rich Carlton or the Four Seasons or the Trumps. I work out every game day. At the pool? No, in the fitness center.

Good fitness center, King. They have the steaming sauna in there. I didn't even know the hotels had gyms. I ain't going to flip it. Some hotels have really nice gyms. That was the best. Yeah, I work out on game days. What did you say? What did you say?

We stayed at the Peninsula. Yeah, we stayed at the Peninsula. Yeah, we stayed at the Peninsula. We stayed at the Trump. I stayed at the Trump. Oh, okay. Tell our brothers on the next Jerry Springer. No, back then?

No, back then? That wasn't the case back then. No, no, no. Back then in New York, like, so in New York we stayed there too. I see it like this. Where did we stay? I don't know. Soho?

I don't know. I don't say that now. I forget what the name of it is now. We stayed at, what was it called? Alpha, um, I don't know. Alpha. Like so in New York we stayed there too They sweet I forget the name of it now Fuck Essex house xx house xx Best hotels Miami where Josh they in Miami at four. She's right next door this On the beach. So I'll be nice to park or say with the pool Where just a with the big fat Where'd y'all stay?

Oh, with the big fat Miami. You know the big fat statue? Uh-huh, yeah, in the middle, yeah. Yeah, everybody stayed there. That's the best hotel. Nah, ours was, ours was, we do have a bad one, but it was the owner's brother's hotel.

So we had to stay there, so... What was it? So there was always, every year, we had one rough one. Yeah. Was that OKC? Nah. What was that? Portland. Right by the airport, like, oh, come on. No vending machines, no nothing. No vending machines. Oh, we had to... Worst hotels. Yeah, that was... But it was the best one. But what's so funny is, he made a deal. If you guys accept this hotel,

every five-star we can get, I got you. So it was a hot bet. So they just weren't putting you on five stars back then? No, no, no, just like like some if we can't get into it Here try. Okay, they cut you a deal. Yeah, cuz like I'm really gonna try like When we stayed like LA we stayed all at the Marina Del Rey. It was like now we want to Beverly's. Yeah I want to Beverly. That's my heart for season. So here switch to the Beverly They try to put you out the Ritz and Marina. I got the best hotel Oh

Dallas cuz they got the Noble connected to it. We had nice... Boy, you talking about boy, Dallas? Oh, I had to coach Matt game one from Dallas. He put a curfew on us. Oh, not us. Not us. He got so mad at me. Curfew? What is that? Oh, not us. What is the curfew? Curfew? Curfew? Oh, not us. What is that? Oh, not us. What is the curfew? Oh, not us. It's 9 o'clock.

Well, we don't even get active till 11. You crazy? So mad. So mad. Hey, DG Shoe Club, I need 10 of your finest. And I need you to wear the outfits and bring bottles with the sparklers on it. I had to make a point.

The sparklers in the hotel lobby. So they said the sparklers, boop, boop, I had to make a point the sparklers in the Sparklers poop poop in the parking lot. I think walking in the hotel like this What I had to make I had to prove a point. I had to go real extreme. Do you are a man of principle? He brought the party. You are Because so you are annoying so he said we couldn't leave the hotel, but it wasn't for me It wasn't for it wasn't for me personally Like we got guys who do strip clubs, dudes who do dinner,

and it kind of fucked up their game day routine. So I had to prove a point that we're not going to listen to you. So... Was it worth it? We had a little strip party. Loophole Gillies. Was it worth it?

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. My teammates loved me. Hell yeah, that shit be worth it. It's more because of the team, right? You got to think about it. If I say, no, we got to sit in, they start looking at it like, man.

You boring. You supposed to be the captain. Like, you can't even. Yeah. So I bucked so, yeah. Great job, Gil. All right, let's move on to our next question. I do what's for the team.

True leadership. For the team. True leadership. A man of principle, a man of, a team player. Coach got so mad. He got, oh, yeah. Teamwork makes it very much... I owe you everything for hanging with us.

I'm the type of dude, look, if... if you got something in your car, I'm the first car, and I see the police right there, throw the snowball at the police so he pull me over so you go for it. That's me. Good, good... Real friends. I feel like you would throw the snowball regardless.

I'll do some shit like that for you, baby. I'll do it. I'll take one for the team. You got a big, big one, right? You got a big one for an up? Come on, sweetheart. You look skinny today. Right? Oh, zip it. About three more shots. Three more shots and start winding down to one eye.

There you go. There you go. Enough. On that note, let's move on to our next question. Next question. Everything goes when you party naked. I like that. Put that on the shirt. That was our shit.

That was our shit, yeah. Everything goes when you party naked. Everything goes when you party naked. Lexi, you would have had fun. We had fun. As a fully clothed part rocker, I relate. But let's move on to our next question. Underdog user.

When you winning 12 games, you ain't playing. Trust me. You can't wait till the game is over with. Man. It ain't like a fun losing. It ain't no fun. We had fun. Listen, we had fun losing.

Yeah. Like, I know that's hard to say. Like, you know how, like, they done lost 22 straight. And everybody want to fight each other. Not us. You might as well have a good time. Shit. We had fun losing.

I feel it. Gil, your water is gone. Let's move on to our next question from underdog user Nia02. Said, can San Antonio make the play-in playoffs? Currently 10th in the West right now, 11-9. Would have that 10th play-in spot. No.

Not with him shooting all them damn threes. Nah, man. I got to save that for my Lakers. I got to think about my team. I was with you. No, I'm not. No, I got to think about my team around 10th. They're both not making it. Around the 10th.

We can get them. Yeah, we can get them. We might need that. Yeah, we can get them. We can get Spurs. Oh, we going to get the Spurs. We might need that. If we we can get them. We might need that. Yeah, we can get them. We can get Spurs. Oh, we're going to get the Spurs. We might need that. If we're playing the Spurs in the play,

oh, we in. So Minnesota currently in 11th. Damn, we don't want them. Really? Minnesota? Yeah, we don't want them in the play. They're 11th? He's shooting too many threes, too, though.

10 and 10. Yeah, everyone's shooting too many damn threes. Nah, but he ain't exciting this year. Are we ever going to find out why that happened, the way it happened? You know what I think? In the middle of the night? That's a lot of stuff outside of basketball, I think. It's a lot.

He had a long summer, though. No, no. Who? Sometimes something, hey, the grass ain't greener. Sometimes you think somebody looks soft in how they play, and it helps somebody else, and you switch for some tough shit, and the tough dude look good, but

Anthony, you don't the floor ain't spaced as it used to be. It don't look the same. Like, now, you can wave him off. You can't wave this one off. It look a little different now. Now you got Rudy Goldberg. Hey, man, hey, cat ain't here. Give me the ball now.

You heard what Ant said, though. They leaving me open. I'm gonna shoot the three. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot. I mean, they, you know... They playing off me. They wasn't playing off you when you had cat. I'm just saying it just don't, you know... I got you. Little things sometimes just... Should've thought. Have Ant dunked him some time this year?

He dunked him some time. Oh, he dunked him. Yeah, look at you. He dunked them. Oh, he dunked them. Yeah, he's still dunking on people. He dunked on them. He ain't had no high. Cat is hooping, too. Cat is hooping. Oh, shit. Big purr.

I ain't no person. Big purr. I'm not putting that on you. Listen. So, speaking of big purr, Gil, you have your Gil's Arena underdog partner pack for tonight. You got Carl Anthony Towns, higher, 35.5 points and rebounds, versus the Magic. You got Dame Lillard, 35.5 points and rebounds versus the Magic.

You got Dame Lillard higher 1.5 first half three-pointers made at the Pistons. First half. Oh, first half. We got to make over one. We got to make two threes

for the half. Okay. That's not a bad one. I like that one. I don't know. I might rock with you. That's a good one. Okay, okay.

I might rock with this. Shut the fuck up. And then KD, 9.5 first quarter points, rebounds and assists versus the the fuck up. And then KD, 9.5 first quarter points, rebounds, and assists versus Spurs. What happened? KD, 9.5 first quarter points, rebounds, and assists versus San Antonio.

All right. That way, 9 points. You got to have, so like, 6 points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist. 6. I'm going to cut. I always follow your shit. I'm going to do it. How much you want me to play?

6 points, 2 rebounds. 6 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists. Thanks to you, I had to. I was working it out in my head. That there? 6.2 rounds. 6.2 rounds, too, is a thing. See, I had to. I was working it out in my head. That's good. That's good. Huh? 6, 2, and 2?

Well, I've never seen your shit no more. Or 8? Right there. Right there. Right there. Right there. Right there. You feel me?

How much you want me to put on there? How much I got in there? All right, Gil, now you are free to pass. You got $300? In there. I got $300 in there. I've been hitting. Gil, you are free to give out.

How much money does Gil owe to that? A lot. I got $300 in there. I've been hitting. Girl, you were free to give out. How much money does Gil owe today? A lot. I got $59. $7 million. I got $0.14. $0.14. I owe somebody. $500.

All right, we go. I owe you. Yeah, I forgot. OG Kimmy B. M-child. OG Kimmy B. What typechild. OG Kimmy B. What type of names are these? Like, why don't y'all have simple names for Cash App? You're going to get picked.

OG Kimmy E. Oh, I see it. OG Kimmy B. OG Kimmy B. K-I-M-M-Y-B-E-E. OG Kimmy B. You got $500 coming to you for watching the show. So tell your friends, cousins, uncles, aunties, special work.

Nah, man. Unspecial work. No, no, no, no. $50, man. But this one I do. This one or this one? Nah, do the flex. Always do the flex. Always do the flex.

Always do the flex. You got to always. You can get a little bread back. Okay. You got to always put the collar on, bro. No raw dogging. No raw dogging the underdog pics anymore. I've been learning the hard way that sometimes you do need to use protection.

Because I've been, listen, I've been winning like $10, $15 because, you know, I got. $10, $15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. $2 there. I put $100 down, I win $10, $15, bro. Because there's always one dude that just messes me up. Don't fuck it up. Yep.

Always one outlier. Last night, that was Bo Nix for me who didn't want to get eight more passing yards for some apparent reason. What? Bo Nix what I did that I do the endgame live live pickups a boat next to 50 I do the live pickups. So it was like 308 or whatever. Oh, yeah I wait to see how the game flow is going before I make my decision. I had a man 250 Jerry Judy You did come through for me. I appreciate you So did you James Jameis, even with the pick-sixes.

So was I messing with Bo Nix, man? A white dude named Bo? White dude named Bo. Now I take your advice, Jameis. That's funny. Bo. That's real. But appreciate everybody on the couch

for another legendary show. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Again, we apologize for those audio issues. Sorry I had to stomp down on some of y'all out there. But appreciate y'all for hitting the refresh and coming right on back to the show. You back to normal? Back to normal.

Nick, hope those knees are feeling good soon. Like the fishnets, though. We do. How high they go. Oh, how high they go. He fooled us. He thought it was good. I thought it was good.

You go all the way up. All the way up. That's wild. Imagine if he pulled them up and they was dead. Take a peek. That's what I need.. Imagine if he pulled him up and they were dead. Take a peek. That's what my knees meant. Trying to see what you're trying to show me. Oh.

That's what my knees meant. All right. But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-woo! We will see y'all tomorrow.