Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena GOES WILD Celebrating 1 Year | Ft. Richard Jefferson

Episode Date: February 22, 2024

Gil's Arena GOES WILD Celebrating 1 Year as Gilbert Arenas, Richard Jefferson and the rest of the Gil's Arena Crew throw a birthday party for the people's favorite basketball & sports podcast. Everyone on the couch discusses their favorite moments from the show's 1st Year and tell their best stories of what went down behind the scenes of the arena. They also talk some basketball giving takes on JJ Redick vs Doc Rivers, Carmelo Anthony vs George Karl and the always evolving Face of The NBA debate. Thank you for the support over the past year! Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Favorite Memories of Gil's Arena Year 1 0:02:45 RJ's Beef With Gil's Arena 0:09:27 NBA All Star Game Ratings 0:11:48 Does The Face of The NBA Need To Be Married? 0:23:54 Most Important Factor For Being Face of The NBA 0:29:59 Never Told Story of JKidd's Leadership 0:40:18 KD's Response To Being Called A Follower 0:45:24 Kenyon and RJ FOUGHT While On The Nets 1:00:09 Should Players Care About Legacy? 1:13:29 Gil & RJ College Stories 1:16:00 Back To Legacies 1:21:24 Gil's Arena Gets Wild 1:23:41 Pump Fake Ending 1:29:01 Reflecting on 1 Year of Gil's Arena 1:30:58 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, confetti. One confetti. One confetti. Yeah. One confetti. That was from the last part. Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, it's our one-year anniversary,

and the powers that be decided to reward us by cutting the power to our studio, but we still needed to give you the show that you know and love, so we got it going. We got the generator. Shout out to our production crew who said y'all gonna fucking work today whether you want to or not.

Making this shit happen today. We was ready to throw in the towel. We wasn't gonna do it, but we said, no, the people need the show. So we're not coming to you live, unfortunately, but we're still going to give you the Gills Arena that you know and love. So as always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What it do?

One year deep in the game. Yes, sir. We got Brandon Jennings back here with us representing Tough Crap. Yes, sir. We got Rashad McKenzie here with us representing the workshop. Sergio Tachini. Work. He came with the Sergio Tachini today. You know it's in the cage. Hey, man. We got Freedom back on the couch. Here with us representing the workshop Sergio to cheat work

We got freedom back on the couch On this side we got the legend Kenya Martin back here with us And we got a very special guest in the arena today. He did not get the memo to wear the commemorative hat Oh, yeah, okay, put it on See them on ESPN. Seen him on the Road Tripper podcast. Richard Jefferson is in the building at Gills Arena. Y'all gonna

No more of that bear down shit. So we had some technical difficulties getting the show together, but nonetheless we made it work, so it's gonna be a little different feel today for our one-year celebration. So when we started the show a year ago, a lot of y'all said we wasn't gonna make it. A lot of haters. RJ was one of them. Said we would not get to this point, but here we are a year deep in the game.

So many great moments, so many memorable things, but we got to get it going. So I just want to go around the couch quick before we start. Gil, what's your favorite memory from Gil's Arena in this past year? That this happened exactly last year, this date. Power been going out. We had to cut it because of the power. Power has been janky, but we still have the power on the show. Brandon, what's your favorite memory from one year of Gills Arena? I think all of it. All of it.

It's been a great ride, man. It's been a great ride. We've learned a lot about ourselves. We've come a long way. And that's the beauty of it. So, yeah, I think just all of it. Rashad McKenzie, is it obvious what is your favorite moment from the first year

of Gills Arena? You said my whole name. For sure. The dream killer. New day, you know what I'm saying? You said my whole goddamn name today. He is. You know the bow off. You know the bow off. He didn't call you McCants. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You said my whole name today, goddamn.

I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. Hey, that's a good time, man. That's a good time, man. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode.

I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bez episode. I'm going to say the Pat Bev episode. Hey, that's a good time, man. That's a good time in there. Follow. Follow. Made the jump.

We are deep in this game. Pat Bev. For sure, for sure. That was a culmination of everybody tuning in, everybody like, oh, that shit real. Y'all motherfuckers bringing that smoke with it. I fuck with it. Kenyon, favorite moment

from the first year of Gil's Arena? She's probably my punk ass crying. Emotional day, Halloween. Halloween. Halloween.

Had to try and keep a straight face, dressed as Mario. Gil's average Joe. While he's going, I'm just sitting here the whole time like, shit, I know this clip is going to live on. And we're sitting here, I'm in a fucking Mario costume, and we're giving a joke like an average joke. I'm just sitting here, and I'm like, there's Jason crying over there.

Oh, shit. Can you shut up? It's Michael Myers. RJ. Michael Myers over there crying. Yeah. I know we in trouble. Uh-oh, look, we already got it.'re showing up as Michael Myers. RJ. Michael Myers over there crying. Yeah. I know we in trouble.

Uh-oh, look, we already got it. We ain't got no power, but we got some beverage. Yes. So let's cheers really quick. Is this how y'all do it? Yeah, this is it. We have been known to turn up on the cage. One year.

One year. One year. One year. Oh, Lord. Woo. And you're driving. This is two. Y'all be careful today.

This is two. Do I get to say my favorite part now? Yes, you do. We know you're a fan. You watch every episode. Subscriber. Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe.

I'm a subscriber. This is my favorite part, is really how this shit all... When I heard Gil was doing his old shit, I was like, there's zero chance this is going to part is really how this shit all when I heard Gil was doing his own shit I was like there's zero chances it's going to last zero chance

and then I was like where he's doing it with Josiah and I was like okay I give it a month they're like hey he's

he's doing it in his basement okay I give it three months now okay you know he'll at least show up like everyone's just

going to be knocking on his door okay I give it three as long as he ain You know he'll at least show up. Like everyone's just going to be knocking on his door. Okay. I give it three. As long as he ain't got drive nowhere that increases the time. You're done. Then I was like okay I give it three months. Then I hear he's got my guy Steve

got my guy Danny working out. I was like okay I give it six months. I give it six months. Then I start to see the guys that he has on it, and I'm like, okay, I'll give it nine months. He's going to still say some shit. I just know Gil.

So I was one of the individuals that took the under, and I just want to give each and every one of you guys a shout-out because I've been watching it. I got to give Gil. I got to give Gil. I look. People said the same shit to me when I tried to go corporate.

They was like, I took the under. Aaron Harris, Aaron Harris from the Nets. He goes, Richard, you're not bad. I'm not going to lie. I took the under. And I was like, don't, I don't feel bad. It's only because you know me. Right?

So that's it. It's only because I know you. Arizona, man, we get right to the line. Hey! Now we go. Ah! Oh, yeah. You crossed the line.

You, you. Still got a couple toes. A bit too alive. A couple toes. A habitual line. A habitual line. A habitual line, Stepper. Absolutely. Rebs not looking. So I'm honored to be here on the one year. Once they told me that's what it was,

it's scheduled, worked out, I drove an hour. An hour. Appreciate it. And then the lights is off. I'm like, wait, wait, what is it? And they knew if they had texted me anything, I would have turned around. So shout out Steve

and Danny for not saying a word to me. I pulled out. They had Josiah outside. I'm like, wait, I thought this shit started 31. A cigarette break. I was like, yeah, that was quick. I was over here sitting. Why are we doing this?

Why don't we just wait until 5 or let's just do this tomorrow? And then you come in and I was like. That's why we can't cancel. This is why we can't cancel. We have obligations. But Richard, as you mentioned, a lot of controversy, a lot of habitual line crossing. A lot of cities that we cannot show up to now because there's smoke waiting for us. I can't even go to the Clipper game.

But yeah, I think. But that's. But that's. waiting for us. I can't even go to the Clipper game But yeah, I think but that's That's good. You compared it to Giannis's brother. I'm just like I fighting work matter how much you with me You ain't gonna get in my fault Feel better Just want to talk. He wanted to talk. He just wanted to talk. He just wanted to talk. Yeah, you're right. He's the only one who got the truth.

No, he just wanted to talk. He did. He wanted to talk. Everybody just wanted to talk. He just wanted to talk. I get that. I know it. Do it live.

Come outside, dude. Just let me holler at you real quick. Gilbert's heard I just want to talk from a lot of people before. David Stern, the police. Eugene Eggerson. I just want to talk to you. Eugene Eggerson. I just wanted to talk.

Were you on a knife? A knife and a crowbar. Hey, motherfucker, what's happening? Yes. Eugene chased him through the arena one time because he was fucking with them and he grabbed the crowbar. It was yeah Just know if you try to pull up through the arena we got heavy security you will not get through the gate Well, yeah, wait no wait a second Cuz cuz y'all have talked some shit about me before on this on this right y'all I gave you primarily

Girl they was talking about why this black is like Richard Jefferson plays volleyball. Yeah, I'm coming with motherfucking receipts. Yo, I was talking shit. Let me get to it. I drove to this neighborhood. This shit is whiter than white, bro. Like, are your kids allowed outside? No, no, no. Like, yo, I live in Hermosa Beach, bro. Diversity at a low.

But at least we get visitors with diversity. Bro, this is, they check my ID, license plate, under the car. I was like, yo. It is a sundown community. Where is the green book? Is there a green book down there? No, no, no. I saw the whitest shit ever over there.

Going down the main street. Is that a book thing where people drop books off and put books? That's the whitest shit I've ever seen in all my life. They want the community to read. Yo, hey, they put books in. Yes, yo, I saw one day and I'm like. I can't lie, there's one that was my neighborhood. There's good, there's a white in there.

You just. Why you looking like that? Y'all niggas rich, man. No, that's the real deal. That's that real deal. Why you think I that? Y'all niggas rich, man. No, that's the real shit. Why you think I have a problem? Wait, all these white people, nobody complain yet about the power? This shit have been on in five minutes. Yeah, yeah.

Power back five minutes. I've never seen a community just sit this and take this shit. You know the nigga ain't got no generators. They didn't prepare for the war. They prepared for everything. Look, maybe it's just your power. That's all I'm saying. Maybe they have a complaint.

Maybe they have a complaint. I was watching. We have a lot of people that don't want to see this show succeed. We'll just say that. Including myself. But you're here, so we appreciate you pulling up. We got a lot to get into today on our one-year anniversary of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy.

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We got generators. I don't say that shit. We got generators. But make sure you go to Underdog Fantasy. Download that. Use promo code GILL, and we'll keep giving you our show. They try to take the power, but we still have it.

We still got the juice. All right, so let's talk a little bit about NBA All-Star Game, more specifically the ratings. For all the talk about how trashed the All-Star Game was, people still watched it. NBA announced Tuesday that 11.6 million unique viewers tuned into the All-Star Game. Average viewership over the course of the game was 5.5 million. Both of those were at least 14% higher than last year. I think the total unique viewers were somewhere in the 20% range.

So when you hear that, RJ, again, people, it wasn't the best game, it wasn't the most entertaining, but people still watched it. Yes, but one of the reasons why I like the show, it's just about the culture of the game. That's not the game we grew up watching. That ain't the game they grew up watching. Right?

And so, like, my boys, seven and nine, right? I just got a bunch of basketball cards for their birthday, January 24th, 25th. Shout out my little guys. So now they got all these basketball cards. So they're, like, watching the games with me. They sitting down. Now the all-star game. This is the first time we've ever sat down i'm talking about

my nine-year-old right who played play a little hoop he sits down there and he's looking at the cards learning the players and shit and he's like daddy they don't run plays and i start dying laughing i'm like and i'm like i'm like yeah nah no son and then they watch it for and then like literally with all of the stars and all the shit they know, 15 minutes later, they're bored. I don't want to watch this shit. None of us want to watch this shit. So 15 minutes later, they're bored. Because they're not seeing anything competitive.

They're not seeing these guys try and do shit and cross each other over. They're not seeing it. So 15 minutes later, my kids that are nine years old are bored with it. That's the situation for me because the OGs don't want to watch it. And if the younger generation, well, yeah, there might be a lot of people, a lot of viewers, but is that good long-term?

No, that's not good long-term because then all of a sudden, you're going to have like two generations of people that don't really give a fuck about it. And so that's to me where I think it's a problem. It's more of like, how did the game progress? It's none of it. That's like, I don't got it.

Like, I don't got a problem, but some sort of competitiveness. Yeah. I don't mean people watching this shit for somebody. They want to see them over score 200 because it ain't ever been done. I think that's the only reason people somebody look down the phone. Oh shit. They got how many points? That was the one thing we was looking for, to see if they can hit 200.

But it was like six minutes ago, and you're like, son, they're going to hit 200. I didn't turn this shit on until halftime, when they had 100 at halftime, because I was doing some adult shit. I was adulting, cleaning out the fucking garage. But yeah, they had 100 hundred and a half times. I'm like, yo, this shit is crazy.

Like, it's... I mean, the elephant in the room, man. What's the incentive? Why do we have to be incentivized to be competitors? Right? You know, y'all, collectively, all-stars, you know, play at a very high level,

and competitiveness is important in the game. Not just to us, but to the youth. You got your kids watching. And if they see the competitiveness in their best, favorite players, they gonna see that this is how we supposed to play when we go out there. Play hard like they playing.

And Gil always makes the point. Why? We're supposed to be here to have fun and I always counter that point by just saying because it's like you owe it to the game just to compete you don't got to break each other's necks you don't got to go out here and trip each other up but when it's fourth quarter into the second quarter let's let's clamp down let's just let's just play against each other a little bit harder. Like we used to see.

You know what I'm saying? Guys used to block shots. How many blocks was there in the All-Star game? One block. Three total foul calls. That's crazy. That's crazy. Like, I mean, you had shot blockers in the NBA before.

That didn't sound real, bro. I mean, a lot of them probably don't want to be here, though. No one. Brandon, you were out there for All-Star weekend. What was the mood and tone like out there? I mean, it was cool because everything was close, but I just feel like a lot of guys just didn't want to be there. You know, they're just showing up just to show up. I mean, I'm worried about vacation out there.

It doesn't really matter. It don't really mean anything anymore. That's what I felt, like these guys just taking a free vacation. Wow. It doesn't, don't really matter. It don't really mean anything anymore. That's what I felt. Like, this guy's just taking a free vacation. Why? To Indianapolis.

I got why. So, just I want to ask a question and I get it, especially the OGs, right? The guys that have been in it 10,

12, 18 times, right? One, the NBA gave a little bit longer on the back end so guys actually do get to get a break.

And then two, I would say this, if that's the case, then the last, that fourth quarter, play the young boys. Play the ones that are in their first, second, third, that they're stoked that they got there. Play the dudes that were like Trey Young. He was an alternate. He gets in.

Play those dudes, and those dudes should have a level of excitement of being there because it's in their first couple years, and let those boys battle out, and the OGs can root them on if they don't want to grind. But, like, that would be the thing that I would say about, like, okay, if they didn't want to be there, but if you in your first All-Star game, if you in your second All-Star game, you don't want to be there, that's a bigger issue. Yeah. No, I mean, like, they want to be there.

It's just, you know, it's just one of them, like, you know, whatever. Hollywood. Like, you know, I got $40 million. Like, I got to get ready for the second one. Because you might not get back. They Hollywoodwood everyone's missing reality reality is this is not the 80s this is not the 90s right now think about the 80s and the 90s there was no tv jordan magic bird that means the rest of the teams didn't have TV, right? There was no showing you guys on TV. So those guys who were great wasn't seen until you played Michael Jordan in them.

So when the All-Star game came, that was their chance to show the world for the first time we are on the same level, right? So that's where they came. They came to prove to the first national, this is national, this is what everybody came to prove to the first national. This is national. This is what everybody came to see. 17 million.

Like, we're looking at the numbers now. 5 million. Back then, 17, 22 million people was watching the All-Star Game because there was no rewinds. They want to rewind. You had to watch it real. Like, that's why the numbers are if these numbers are just dumb 2003 though It was 10 million and it's declined ever since to tell hasn't declined. Yes, they haven't so what's happening? Cuz why everybody stopped 10 million 10 million in 2003

2013 So it was declined because it was NBC before I mean CBS before and. And then with the TNT, that's what dropped the numbers. This is what everybody's missing. How are the TV deals going up but the viewer going down? Because the viewers are different now. See, everyone's stuck in old times. We watched it live, 17 million for the first time. There was no reruns, right? 17 million, that's it. No first time. There was no reruns, right?

17 million, that's it. No social media. There was no social media. Now what ends up happening, there's 5.5 watching it, right? Did you watch the darker contest? I didn't watch none of that shit. Yeah, you did. I didn't watch none of it.

How did you see Jalen Brown do this? I didn't see it. You didn't? I watched the highlights. Oh, then you watched it. No, I didn't watch it. If you watched the highlight, it clicked as a view. It was an impression.

Yes. So those are counted as views now. So now you have Facebook, this, this, this, this. So everybody's watching it and re-watching it. We talk about it. We're doing this. What ends up happening is 4.7 million watched it last year. The real number is 1.3 billion.

Because you forgot our game is global. So they're not counting China and Italy and all these different countries watching the game after it's broadcasted. That wasn't before. Because the metric is not watching it afterwards. It's real-time live viewership. I don't have to, but that's what I'm saying. Back then, I had to watch it real-time. I don't have to now. So that's what I'm saying. So what they're going off of is not actually a real thing

Oh, it's all right It's live compared to being able to see the pre-recorded after effects or the post record When you look at because I've been in production a while So when you're looking at the actual live production of it you're like all right cool you're going to gain your monetization and all this off of the live streaming and off of the live viewership but you like you said when you add on the other side of it when everybody's going to after the live stream you're going to watch it that's an added monetization but they're showing you in real time this is how many people are tuning in There's how many people care compared to last year and the year before that in the year before that Okay, but you have a point you have a point as far as total viewership

But I thought we're talking about views. Are we talking about the game? No, no, no, no So the game about no, no, but it's all I thought the question about basketball wasn't it? Yeah, I miss it. Next I'll start getting yours. We did this for so many years. So the competitors? That's what I said, the competitors. I would see what was going on. I had a question about what you started with. Y'all went total by the same. I had no fucking idea what the fuck y'all were talking about.

No, no. So competitiveness is now that we are on TNT ESPN throughout the year now, 16, 17 games, I got to play against you. I got to show you who I am. When we get to All-Star game, I don't need to compete against you no more. Okay, okay. That's what's been happening. I get that.

But the other point, Gil, that you said is we live in a clip-driven world now, right? People are heavy on social media, heavy on the NBA app, so they're not watching the game live in its entirety. It was adulting. I'm watching. We got to catch you later. But I can watch the clips on social media, heavy on the NBA app, so they're not watching the game live in its entirety. It was adulting. I'm watching. We got to catch you later. But I can watch the clips on social. I can see Lucas shooting a three-quarter, quarter three, or some of the other shenanigans and hijinks that went on in the game.

I don't need to watch the full game to be able to see it, but Rashad, I think what you're saying is we're not sitting in front of the TV now, appointment viewing, like I got to watch this all-star game. Because it's not important. What's not important? Watching it. Watching it live is not important. We don't need it. Like it used to be. Yeah, because that's it. Because we used not important. What's not important watching it watching it live is not important. We don't like it used to be Yeah, because that's it. We used to we used to compete

No It's only saying why is everybody complaining about it there? Cuz you because I'm not competitive like you you look on social media a bunch of casuals and these are the real numbers that they're looking At it. That's not I'm not talking about the numbers. the numbers about the game. Why is the game so not competitive? Cuz I don't need to compete anymore cuz I didn't bust your ass in regular season But that's my point. That's it don't make sense. I do how you're here to play a pickup game It was the best the best players you're playing It don't matter about how how many times you bust my ass like you got to do it again But I would like just see them play the fourth quarter with a little more. That's all so I

Get your point cuz I understand I end up hitting some of the people about you Why was the game competitive and it's not competitive now yarns and they said it is like well I didn't like let's imagine Jordan is a number like Clyde Jackson Jordan, right? They're sitting there competing He hasn't played against Jordan yet. Yeah, so now all-star weekend when he's there I'm, yeah. Now, I done bust your ass three times before the All-Star break. What the fuck am I playing against you hard for? I'm pretty sure we saw that clip going around where All-Star, when Kobe going against Steph and Chuck going,

they going back and forth. Yeah, with Scottie Dippin. That shit was. Yeah, but people don't like the East, right? That East 2000, was that three? Yeah. They're down 20. The East is down by 20, was that three? Yeah. They're down 20. The East is down about 20, getting their ass blown out. They start going hard.

The West is still fucking around. And then the East made it a game, right? The East ended up making it a game because the West was fucking around. And then they end up winning. And you can see how excited they was because the West was so dominant that everybody said, y'all going to get your ass beat. So they came back. It's 2003. They fucking winning me. ass beat. So they came back in 2003.

That's where they fucking pointed me. I'm just saying it's 2003. I thought that was called competing though, like the East decided to compete. Yeah, they got embarrassed. They were getting embarrassed. They decided to turn it up and it wasn't answered. That was it. That was it.

That's how I look. I'm like, okay. Tuck and them was like, yo, we about to turn it up a little bit. Let's turn it up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was supposed to be on that team too, so. I mean, there can be. You ain't gonna find no argument for me. You ain't gonna find no argument for me.

That was some bullshit. So we talked about the All-Star game. Let's talk a little bit just about stars in general, more specifically the face of the NBA. Shannon Sharp was on first take and offered this take on the requirements to be the face of the NBA. Shannon basically said, in order to the face of the NBA Shannon basically said

Oh, they're in order to be face of the league. You got to be in a stable relationship You got to be married pointed to magic MJ other guys as kind of examples of that requirement So I'm gonna ask the couch Talking football because I mean I guess it's easy So do you agree with saying that the face of the league should be in a stable relationship? Name the people he said again. He used magic. Okay. There we go. There goes Warren. He wasn't he wasn't married until he You know, I'm gonna retire MJ was another example. Oh

Larry Larry Bert, he married. A lot of children. Rolling. Spread of his seed. Stone. He did. Papa. He got him. Fuzz.

So basically, he's wrong, is what we say. Shit, man. Is it an image thing, though? You know, you look at LeBBron obviously LeBron and Savannah How did they get married? Behind the 30 for 30 Larry there's Very poor pull-out game. The hick from French League. The hick. What? He was catching licks. The hick from French League was getting it. But you look at LeBron Savannah, kind of what they represented.

Kobe, Vanessa. I'm just saying, like. I don't know. I mean, I think in all sports, I mean, I think in all sports when guys are married, I mean, it's like, you know, it's safer for the league. It's safer for, you know, the people in business because he goes home to someone. Man. Yeah. Even Tony Brady got him.

Who was that, Tiger? No, I'm talking about. He was riding hard for a minute. I'm saying, listen. Everybody you need is just going to be out there. What I'm saying is every Super Bowl. Tiger was done. Tiger was done.

No, no, he wasn't. Tiger was done playing. Tiger was done playing. What I'm saying is the ideal of what he's saying, the ideal of what he's saying the ideal No, I hear what he's saying. We may make see no I hear what he said using You know that name is not a face, but he wasn't married. We all watch Winnie.

You know how to pick him, bro. I am merely a host. What he was saying. We're going to Vegas or one opposite. Oh, man. In theory, being in a relationship seems like the president, right? Yeah. Having a single president.

I need two. I need two. I need two. He's saying some outlandish things. I'm merely a host, RJ. Who's next, Clinton? OJ? Obama, Michelle? I hear what you're saying, though, but the names that he said, I wouldn't have.

Oh, shit. I would have just said, I would have just said I would have just said The luckily this ain't live y'all get some of this we don't it will not be edited First of all, I Edit that saved his ass couples couple actually I saved my ass too this dude he come online start talking reckless and like again we edit everything out that's not it so

he's talking reckless Nick saying some reckless shit they going at it next thing we know I send it he gets a thing from his lawyer we get a thing from his lawyer this part needs to be taken out this part needs to be taken out there's like five different segments that we had to edit out of your shit, bro But that's exactly what Shannon's trying to say though. No, but if there's a PR involved the PR is gonna

the the script Mary Faithful with children you can be the face but in reality right the faces of all sports Have not all been in relationships You have LeBron, but when did he get married? I mean he didn't get married. He wasn't married before he became the face Yeah, but he yeah, but he was in a relationship. Yeah, Kobe. We've seen what happened magic Like right, but I'm saying but what I'm saying is the face itself, you know, you have in boxing who? Hmm itself you know you have in boxing who none of those right none of those baseball we like you

know a rod and all these are single these are single men that's why jeter jeter the gift basket no jeter specifically said i never i did not want to get married while i was playing and he was like i'd never have never wanted to get married because it's like, look, if you have a girlfriend, you break up, shit happens. Once you get married and some shit goes sideways. So he probably, I don't know the man, but if you told me that he was like, to protect my brand, I'm

not going to get married until I retire from baseball. And that's what he did. Right? But Jeter treated it work well, though. And he was the face of baseball. Uber before Uber. But he was the face of baseball Uber before Uber he was the face of baseball just to counter his point he was the face of baseball we was there it was Jeter's town

and he was cool he was chill he would come out do all his thing but he was in the town for the Yankee he's the face of all of baseball for the most popular team in America he was the face and he was never in a relationship.

Actually, he was noticed to date 20 different women. Yeah, that's a different sport, though. No, no, no. That's the most family sport there is. That's what I'm saying. So that's a different sport. So that's a different sport.

It's more of them than us. No, what I'm saying is family sports with a single man. It's more of them than us. So yeah, trust me. It's more of them than us So yeah, they trust me. It's way there is way different than then though over there than the NBA No, it's not as harder to NBA the face of basketball right what conversation is the face of The face of baseball ain't no

Goes involved with it. So what do you guys feel like is the most important thing to be the face of basketball? Be rich. What do you really good at basketball. One, be attractive. Richard knows because it's a corporate thing. Oh, you want me to tell you? You know the corporate answer to this. I got corporate answers to this too. I was in DC on a building. Look, all of those guys that we're talking about were, the marital status,

they were with someone. Okay, let me give you guys the ESPN stuff, all right? Yes. So. He known for that. He known for that. He known for that. Oh, my God.

So, and he knows this. He knows this. So, we see the ratings, right? When we do the games, we see the ratings. So, that's LeBron. Mm-hmm. Steph. Mm-hmm.

Everybody else. So, when we talk about the face of the league, understand this. Let's go back and look at it. It was Russell, Wilt, West. Then it gets to, like, you can tell a grandma in Alaska. You ever heard of Larry Bird? They know Larry Bird. They know Magic Johnson.

You have to transcend the game of basketball. It's not about the face of the league is not the best, most popular player in the league. It's an individual that transcends the game. And so Kobe, Shaq, Braun, you just say those names damn near anywhere on the fucking globe. So the next person is not just about are you the... Giannis has been the best player. Jokic has been the fucking globe. So the next person is not just about are you the best. Giannis has been the best player. Jokic has been the best player. It's not about who the fuck the best player is.

It's about a greatness that is just an aura. Like MJ, you just say those things. There's just something about that that the entire world falls in love with. And it hasn't been Giannis, And it hasn't been Jokic. These guys have been those dudes, but I'm just saying it just shows you. It's the fucking truth. So my only thing is

you see the ratings. Steph, he's a global icon. He's the most popular player over the last probably 10 years. LeBron obviously much longer. So it's like when you look at that shit, Steph and Bron, icons.

Like global, pop culture, all the shit, icons. American tradition, American morals. That's all I'm saying when it comes to corporate. When he was saying that, should the face be in a relationship, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's the morals and the tradition of American culture should that's so corporates gonna pick their American hero. No Patrick Mahomes Right Travis Kelsey and Travis like it's the whole relationship that Tom Brady when

With Tom Brady, I've it matters who's on your hip, but look when Tom Brady Tom Brady Tom Brady, it matters who's on your hip. But look, when Tom Brady was there, it matters who's on your hip. It matters who's on your hip. It matters. Bro, you can't have no fucking, you can't have no ass on your hip and trying to be the best. You're not rolling with that. How about this? All right, let's.

Okay. Juanita. Juanita. When was that? Juanita. When was that? Juanita was there, right? What year?

What year? When was that? It don't matter what year. She was no, no, no, no, no, no, no She was there when he began. She was there now. There's some there's some style Okay, listen because I had to do PR All right corporate PR court order to be no no not that one not that not yet before we got there Before before we got there. Before we got there. Just PR for branding, video gaming, getting put on a video game and all that stuff.

This is what they said. They said, right, you have to appeal to women, gays, men last, right? So a married man, yes, you have family, right? A single man who's attractive, you have every woman now who's falling for you as a single man.

You're going to have women coming to the arena as a single man. The gays are going to follow that. The men are going to follow the game. Single-man you're gonna have women come into the arena as a single man The gays are gonna follow that the men are gonna follow the game So the family thing is yet that's good for a story, but the single-man Rockstar life is gonna always Trump No No, no, no, no Somebody on this earth that's that single right now. That's that's just trumping it any Leo my else Leo Drake Huh Leo Drake over over JT Beyonce Drake stop playing stop back bunny stop the weekend stop

I mean we can keep going. Stop playing. We can keep going. I don't know. I Google everything. Kanye West and his girl. I Google everything. Stop playing. I don't come in here. Stop playing. Stop playing.

Stop playing. You ain't. Single. When you two movie stars. Movie stars. The DiCaprios and all of them. My point has to do with the people that are next to him. My point is this. The people that are saying these things,

they're not looking at what the real faces of the league, who they are. There are people that transcend the sport because they're so great. Patrick Mahomes showed up and it was like, what the fuck have we watched for the last six years? Holy shit. Like, you need somebody to come in, do that, and on top of

it, have the rights, this is the great. Like, you need somebody to come in, do that, and on top of it, have the right, this around them, on top of being over-the-top special. It ain't just, I'm a great player. Giannis, Jokic, Lycomington. It's not just, I'm a great player. Well, Rich, we've seen that before. We've seen Patrick Mahomes. Well, you know where we've seen it?

Where? Steph Curry. Yeah! Patrick Mahomes. We've seen it. It's a mirror image. Yes, but look, it's duplicated. Patrick, is Patrick Mahomes big?

Steph can show up and dominate that early. I'm not, I'm talking about the dynamic of being married and being with a, being a family guy. Yeah! That whole dynamic. Companies want to give you money. So if Steph is the biracial, he's the guy. Yeah, biracial angel.

Then we got another one. He's a biracial angel. But then we got another one. We got two, we got two. You like that one? He's trying to hold it in. He's trying to hold it in. OK, I got you.

I got you. I got you there, here. There's a little biracial angel. You know, they're just like, everybody loves him, man. Wait, so your mom and your dad? OK. Where your mom's family from? Where your mom's family from? He your mom's family from, right?

He's anointed. Who won the Super Bowl? The Chiefs. The Chiefs, right? Yeah. Who was the Super Bowl MVP? Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes.

But that's because he's great. Okay, after the game, what was the first trending topic? Taylor Swift. No. The kiss. That's your right. Taylor Swift and his, right? Taylor Swift and his, right? Taylor Swift and the brother.

What's his name? And then Kelsey. The brother. And then the brother with the mask on partying like a single man was third. The dude that was married in the relationship. He's not attractive to single women no more. That's because he won his house. He's not attractive to single women no more.

So all the single women out there don't care about a married man. Who? The first two guys you named are married. No, no, no. Nobody knew Usher was married until the next day. When he got married, everybody was like, oh shit, Usher had a wife?

At the end of the day, you want to be number one, right? So the only way you're going to be number one is if you got somebody on your hip. I don't care who coming in second or third. Single, attractive. If I'm telling a dude to get to a billion dollars, single. If you are attractive. The bad bunnies. Every woman wants that dude.

Is that why you do it? If you're married, you lose that audience. No, you do not. You could be married and still be that dude. Any woman with morals don't want that. I don't care if she got morals or not. Why do they post goals?

If you that dude, if you that dude in there, why do they say relationship goals? They say relationship go man How many see how many single women go out there, uh, what's the name again Patrick my home How many single way how many single women be chasing Patrick my home? How would he know that? How would he know that? Probably a lot. He knows no one knows the answer to that. That's what he does.

I don't care what woman got horrors, man. She gonna wanna fuck. Raise your hand if you're interested in Patrick Mahomes. The hell? Trevor, put your hand down. Trevor, put your hand down. Trevor, put your hand down. I mean, fucking call that black. mean fucking black black get more sick

We do Byron and Jake kid you saw our Yeah, majority of this is what I'm Okay, what he's saying, well, I was thinking about what I'm saying But no you what you're saying is correct majority I'm a majority of my single right But I'm sorry of them have relationship goals Right all posted relationship goals. Oh, I want that. I want to go there It's not cuz the niggas singles cuz I want this every this is this is something what I want I don't I don't mind being a side. Yes He talking about I have relationship.

Hey, hey, hey, you don't got no mic now. I have relationship. I didn't see what was on the phone today. I was going to be a part of the conversation now. So I'm going to go after the dude that's single. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the one year anniversary of Gilderita presented by Underdog Fantasy. Last comment, RJ, before we move on.

Last comment, last comment. It don't matter. Can I get some popcorn, please? Popcorn popping? I was just, me and Kenyon were over here, and there was too much crosstalk, and I just looked at Kenyon and I said, this reminds me of when J. Kid and Byron used to argue.

And they would be sitting next to each other in the locker room, just like, well, obviously. And both of us were like, look, obviously, we got to side with J.K. He's a franchise, but like, you know, they both got points. They both got points. So back on up. Bro, y'all got in the shower. Okay, let me say this.

Tell the story. This might be a never told story before, right? Oh, shit. So we, I think we get blasted in Memphis. Oh, fucking blasted. Right? So J. Kidd, J. Kidd and J. Kidd's mad because the coaches sometimes coaches will take a while

to give players a moment to either argue or fight or just like say something. So Byron was taking a while to come into the locker room. So J. Kidd was mad at Byron. He's like, man, fuck this. So J. Kidd get up and get in the shower. Kenyon, like a true soldier, he gets up, gets in the shower too. So I'm sitting here like, mind you, I had back spasms.

Remember? I fucked up my back in the second quarter. So I'm sitting here like, yo, I kind of need the trainer to come in here. But I see my two OGs go up and get in the shower. So I'm sitting here like, what the fuck? Like, am I supposed to go too? Like, I'm young, so I'm still trying to figure this shit out. Because I don't want Byron to walk in and be fucking cussing me out too.

Byron walks in. Byron walks in, and he's ready to, like, talk to us. It was a bad loss. It was one of those ones where shit, like, we were coming off two finals. We looked like shit. So he comes in and the first thing he does is like, J. Kid, he's like, where's J. Kid and Kenyon? And like, I wasn't going to say shit, but it was like, oh, they got in the showers. They got tired of waiting. So then as soon as somebody said that, the shower was right here J-Kid peeked his head out and goes

not to everybody else but to me it was like my locker was here facing the shower and then Byron was like talking to him so as soon as somebody said that he like stuck his head out I was like god I'm sitting here trying not to die laughing as Byron's head is about to fucking explode

and we could just say that might have been close to the beginning I'm sitting here trying not to die laugh as Byron's head is about to fucking explode. And we could just say that might have been close to the beginning of the end of that situation. But then the motherfucker just says, bring it in. Bring it in. Oh, listen, though. I wasn't going to say all that. Hey, man. What the fuck? We've been sitting in this bitch waiting, though?

He was mad. It was not a good... But afterwards on the bus, this low-key... And I say this as I didn't know as a young player, but he was like, hey, sometimes, man, as a player, you're going to have to make a stand. You're going to have to make a stand. And you know that this situation or this... Or he was frustrated and he was like,

not you are with me or against me type stuff, but just like, hey, I've never steered you wrong. If we feel like there needs to be changes or if I didn't feel like him sitting out there for 40 minutes in that moment was right, you got to stand with me. So he was basically telling me in that moment, like, listen, motherfucker, if I ever get up and get in the shower and we ever have some shit you riding with me that's what he told me and from that moment on i never had to learn that lesson twice like if j kid says something disagree with something like look that's that's the side i'm on people don't understand that that that is a real thing in the locker room yeah Yeah, real thing. When you're sitting there having a conversation and people are like, why don't coaches go at the best player?

Because the best player, if he's the leader, he has the other 14 players with him. So whatever he says and whatever he does goes. So if he don't fuck with you, they don't fuck with you. Yep.

You know what I mean? So you have to tread softly. He taught me that shit. You know what I mean? And that's a real thing. Because once the head player says, yo, I don't fuck with this dude. What y'all doing? Well, we don't fuck with him either.

Yeah, J.K. is like, well, we should have done this. We should have done this. And I'm like, what the fuck? Am I going to argue with Jason fucking Kidd, right? Like, I'm 20 years old. So it's like, obviously, J should have done this, we should have done this. And I'm like, what the fuck? Am I going to argue with Jason fucking kid, right? Like, I'm 20 years old. So it's like, obviously Jay must know what he... Look at this motherfucker over here. No, I'm not, because like...

No, but Kenyon, we'll say this. You were there when I first got drafted to the time you left to go to Denver. I always tell people that while we are very different people, like, we had a very, very good understanding. Like you could talk to me in the shit and be like, even when I was starting to become more of a scorer, you could be like, that wasn't a good shot. And it wouldn't be like there was no attitude.

It was just I would respect. And I'm like, yeah, that was a horseshit shot. I was just seeing if I could make it like type shit. But it's like, yo, having those OGs in the locker room that show you how the locker room run And he told me in that moment that like hey as long as you're my Young player if I decided something ain't okay, or if I decide I'm not gonna go do something like I expect you to fall in line Now he only had to tell me that once that's why We know Yon has got his coach fired.

We've been playing before, God damn it. Come on, man. We know motherfuckers are sitting there celebrating after. Oh, that's Giannis right there. Come on, man. We know nothing happens without the head, right? We're going to talk Giannis in a second, but just on the subject of leadership, let's talk a little bit about KD.

Barkley during All-Star weekend said KD was a follower, never a leader. And any of it stops. KD offers some perspective on this as well, saying, quote, I'm not as charismatic as my peers. I don't have a personality that's fit for TV like my peers. You've got to sell what you're doing as well. And I haven't sold it enough.

Gil, I'm giving the rules that I still got the computer working. I know, but it's just because I keep looking at it, and it just says no internet. To remind you that your Wi-Fi is janky at this house. That's just for you. And I still got a host. We don't got no AC. Yeah, I threw you under the bus. No, no, no, no.

I'm just looking like. Gil, you ain't shit, bro. What the fuck is he reading? No, Gil trying to figure out what the nigga read. I'm holding out hope, because once it clicks back on, I know Wi-Fi is back. Gil, I'm a bigger gentleman. We got no AC in here. I'm already sweaty.

My bad, my bad, my bad. Gil, you are rich. Get your shit together. He's hosting Yo! Podcast. I didn't know. I'm just like... It's like both of ours, kind of. You are rich get your get your shit There's like both of ours We got some sliders We got some sliders. We got some sliders. He said, man, I want my bike back. He's high now. He knows, like, both of them are. The beach cruiser.

Oh, I've been. The bike that's sitting right here. What? I'm leaving at my house. It's like both ours. I'm hungry as hell. I'm hungry as hell. Yeah, you can't leave now. We locked the doors. I just thought I was going to have a chance. When I first sat down, I was like...

I'm on my third box. Thank you, Katie. Now we lock the door Thank you, Katie Somebody respects the craft of hosting still so Katie talked about being the leader in the wake of Barclay saying that he was a follower respect for you to get back to it as a host. I'm getting better Yeah, I'm getting better. I'm gonna give you credit right there to get to deal with all that bullshit and be like, okay back to our point Thank you Are you are you hating do you mean that not okay? God bless you. That's what I said. That's hard the black Ernie. Call me Bernie Yeah, let's get it. But anyway, I like so I like that. Yeah, better I had a little beverage getting better. So Katie on being a leader said I'm not as charismatic as my peers I don't have a personality that's fit for TV like my peers

You got to sell what you're doing as well, and I haven't sold it enough I don't feel like I need to I don't feel like I need people to call me a leader But I also don't feel like I want people to say I'm not one either. So what do you make of these comments from KD and just this whole situation? Can I be a regular on this? We have snacks. We have snacks.

What's the pension package like? We have Philly cheesesteak sliders too. Somebody got to them early though. Okay. I say no name. Okay, we'll save this for later. Sorry. What do you make of KD's comments? I guess it is a double-edged sword for most guys.

You know, you're talking about a guy like Steph, a guy like Kawhi, a guy like KD, a guy like Jokic, right? These are quiet, quiet players, right? They don't show that energy and do that rah-rah in games for the casuals and the media to say, oh, my God, he's really, you know, into the game. He's really firing his team up. They just go out there and play. So a player like KD, he wouldn't look like a leader if you're judging leader off of sitting there grilling people, right? But if you ask his teammates, well, she's the first one there, last one there. He's calling us like, yo, you need to get in the gym.

That is a leader too. So it depends on what you determine as a leader. Because the person, the people who are saying who is a leader or not never played high level basketball. Never been in an arena outside of watching it. They've never been to practice.

They've never been to any of it. But they're labeling who's leaders and who's not. That becomes a problem because the same people who are like a Charles Barkley that's complaining, I can show all of his un leadership qualities and what he did on leadership on leadership Please we went to the same college college We went to the same college we wasn't innocent

Yes, I was the I was in the adult classes You were you were in that you were in that trailer in the back that they had a separate bus for no I said that thing they called the uh No, Jim McHale was at McHale the lunchroom and Richard Jefferson gymnasium. No, they didn't have that then. Oh, they didn't have that then. You have a gymnasium? Shut the fuck up. He ain't got his own gymnasium. Y'all know the only reason why I paid for it, right? Erica Barnes, shout out. Shout out Erica Barnes.

She hit me up. She was like, hey, we're doing a new practice gym. And I was like, okay. She was like, we're looking for naming rights to it. You know, would you be interested? And I was like, I'll think about it. She's like, just so you know, my next call is Gilbert. And I was like, yeah, I'll do it.

Fuck that. Zero chance. Zero chance. Because you know how to say it. That was the exact conversation. She was like, just so you know, my next call is Gilbert. And we know what he would have done. We know.

It would have been the big booty arena. The big booty arenas. He would have had something ignorant up there. So I was like, nah, I'm good. I'll do it. How much is it? It's worth it just so he doesn't have it. Because I was like, yo, why didn't he call me?

You know why he didn't call you. And it was the best thing. They would have had to change the name a couple of times. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gilder here, if you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GILDER, match your first deposit. Can I eat? How's the mic? Okay, okay. I was like, you know, most people don't like hearing...

So back to KD, though. We talk about the whole leadership issue. We've had this conversation on this couch before. Does it need to be the vocal rah-rah type of guy, or do you just... No, you just lead the way you want to lead in life. And I think he's trolling, too. I think he trolls a lot. But, I mean, everybody's a leader in their own way.

It's just how you look at it in life. Nah. Huh? Nah. Yeah? No. Some people, yeah. No, everybody ain't at it in life. Nah. Huh? Nah. Yeah? No. Can you disagree? No, everybody ain't leaders in their own fucking way.

I mean, sorry. No, but every person, everybody's leading their own way. Nah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you lead your way into the way you want to go. So you lead. I mean, in a way, you're leading. You're just leading your way into disaster or greatness. Just because you're walking, it's like, all right, all right, now.

Everybody leads. Nah, nah, nah. You can lead your way into disaster or greatness. That's because you're walking. Nah, nah, nah. Everybody leads. Nah, nah, nah. You can lead your way to disaster or greatness. Nah, yeah. Touche, touche. In this particular case, it is not obvious, so what are you thinking over there on that side? No, I think it is obvious.

I think it is obvious that- We've seen it. We're in the business of showmanship. Absolutely, bro. Show business, right? So you in show business, there's a showman and then there's a guy who gets the troops riled up. There's a whole different element of all types of leadership.

We had this conversation. We went viral for this type of shit. So my perspective... We? You. Okay, me. What? No, we did. No, no, he did. We didn't. Okay, me. What? No, we did.

No, no, he did. We didn't. Talking about leadership. And from my perspective, you know, leadership comes from different facets, but the best player always ends up being the leader. But when you got show business. The best player always ends up being the leader? Yeah, because he has to lead the troops through his example. Like he said, if KD is not the rah-rah guy

he's showing up lead by example through his workouts and all of that shit, but If you're gonna be the showman in show business, you have to know how to be the showman You got to go out in the optics come from the fans The fans are watching the game and they see that you're the best player and you're not leading by the example They see they're gonna call you not a they're gonna consider you not a leader because you're not best player and you're not leading by the example they see, they're going to call you not a, they're going to consider you not a leader because you're not doing the shit that LeBron does out there. Oh, so you're comparing me. So now, so now I have to be a leader the way he has to be a leader.

No, you don't have to be any, it's show, it's show business. Show you what? Business. I'm saying it's business. And the fans are watching the business get done from the best players. So the fans are telling me what I should be like. The fans are showing you what they want to see because they're paying the bills. Casuals, you are a guest of honor.

Okay, so if we go back, you guys are all historians, right? So it's like Larry Bird. He wasn't Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird were two very different type of leaders. Magic was smiling, commercials, everybody's my friend, everyone loves him, fierce competitor, talk that shit, motivate, do all the things. Larry was very fucking quiet, a little bit more reserved,

or at least that's how the media portrayed him. Maybe his teammates didn't call it that way, but that's how he was portrayed. But they led in very different ways, and no one would ever question their leadership. No one would ever. So even for Kevin Durant, if people are questioning his leadership, it might be because he won a championship based off the way he did it.

You still got to win it. Trust me. He beat us. I was on a team. Motherfucker was putting in work. We couldn't stop him, right? So I'm just saying is that you can lead in different ways. And to judge somebody because they're not rah-rah and they're not this way,

that's not the way Jokic is. That motherfucker got a championship, might have been the best player in the fucking world the last few years. So I'm just like... We as players don't do that. We don't judge them. We don't, no. Because we in the locker room, it's the fans and boo.

But we can't, who gives a fuck what that is? But the point is, the fans are like, all right, this is what we're seeing and K Katie's answering the question from the fans. He's not answering it from us. We know he's from Charles Barkley. That's the problem. Because they're all don't problem because Charles don't think he's a leader. But Charles and what kind of leader with Charles?

It don't matter about what he was. He should matter. Oh, well, I don't. His opinion shouldn't come from what he was. living glass this more have an opinion you keep up I'm gonna use this cuz he wasn't it just Houses you can't call me out for something you were to yes, I can how because Yeah, that makes you Exactly what it does it makes him a hypocriteite but you can't say he can't do it

you know he can but it's invalid cause you then why say this shit then cause that's how he feels that's like me going right now to the job having guns he's dumb I look stupid no

is it accurate it can't come from him is it accurate though is it accurate? Is it accurate? It can't come from him. Is it accurate? Is it accurate he's dumb because I was dumb? Is it accurate? Yes. Okay. So then it's valid.

But it can't come from him. Then it's valid. But it's not valid. How does he know what he's leading? He's watching from the team. If Charles Barkley is not a leader, it never was. So how can he speak of leadership?

He can say that this guy's not a leader because he wasn't one. He's not there in real time. Because he wasn't. We don't know what his leadership was. We know that Charles Barkley wasn't a rah-rah leader, but the people who played with him. He's a tall was our leader He was a follower who Charles to who? No, no who was the leader of the team powers on we got some power Yes, no, I'm talking about time I wasn't We got some power back. Just in time. Just in time. Just in time.

Just in time. What I'm saying is, how are you a follower? Who is he following? After he left Philly, where did he go? How is he following? Hold on. I've been saying shit. No, no, no. God is saying shit. Who is he following? Hold on. He left Philly. Where did he go? Hold on. I've been saying shit. Where did he go? No, no, no, no. Y'all just saying shit.

I've researched everything. Who was he following? Okay, hold on. Who? He wanted out of Philly. He wanted out of Philly because they was losing. So he tried to go to the number one team in the Western Conference at the time. Who was he following?

So he tried to go to Blazers. They were the number one team, went to the championship. He tried to follow Clyde Drexler. Okay. Didn't follow, didn't get to him. So he goes to Phoenix who was the third best team. Right?

Who'd he follow? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan wasn't playing in Phoenix. Yeah. There are the stories of them hanging out before the final.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because MJ knew he... Who was in Phoenix that he followed? And how was he not the leader? He went to the Warriors.

He wasn't trying to get out there. They weren't... Look, I grew up in Phoenix. The team was already playing off the league. They won 50 games four years straight. Won't you let me... He was the leader. Won't you let me... Wasn't he the MVP of the league? They were I grew up in Phoenix the team Won't you let me was the leader watch your limits working?

MVP of the league. Yes, you could be the best player. Why were you doing VP? Well, I Did all this research I did You gonna make a claim performance by can be a leader by your performance, but not necessarily by the way you behave yourself. We're not talking about that. We're talking about Kevin Durant and Charles Barkley. We are. We're talking about how Charles Barkley can say, hey, I can say, my opinion, he is not.

I agree with you. That's what I'm. You're not going to tell me to change what I'm saying. He didn't say my opinion. I agree with you. I have opinions without facts. Okay His opinion was a fact. His opinion was a fact. But that fact wasn't a fact. Hey, it's up in the back. But what I'm saying is-

There was a point even having discussion- Why are you yelling at me, bro? No, I'm sorry. What is the point? He's yelling at me. He's really yelling at me. He's yelling at me. He's yelling at me, not you.

Hey, you and Crossfire. You're just sitting there. Yeah, you're just sitting there. You're on fire right now, bro. I'm usually sitting right there. I'm usually sitting there. What is the point even having a discussion if he's just going to get to finish it with, I'm usually sitting right there. I'm usually sitting there. What is the point of even having a discussion if he's just going to get to finish it with,

this is my opinion? Because that's his opinion on having an opinion. Okay. So I... Ladies and gentlemen, we are under the influence of various... I'm going to use that one. I'm going to use that one. Damn. We are under the influence of various... Now imagine both of you... Now imagine us both on the same team. He already asked me.

Could I imagine being like, would you not say fuck no? I left him two months later. I was with this idiot. So I was doing the same shit. I was telling somebody. So like I was doing the normal shit I do, talking too much all the time.

I'm weird like just going through some shit and like quiet, practice quiet. But I'm standing next to Kenny and just like, man, you're not that fucking tall. Look at you. You're like an insider. And just loud as fuck, embarrassing shit. Do you ever shut the fuck up? I'm talking about all the people. Like we was doing walkthrough.

Coach was talking about something. And I was just like, man, you're not really that tall. And he just bowed his shit for no reason. Just look, do you ever shut the fuck up? And I was like, nah. But yeah, you like to do it. Nah. These two motherfuckers.

I said we was both from the same team. So you already know shit was never. Oh, I was like, I'm shit was never serious. No, he know he was about to come to Arizona. For the same you already know He know he's about to come to Arizona you might be a part of Time you got there. Yeah, I remember you had we yeah, I know I'm sorry. No you gave him hell no boy He gave you hell both Yes, yes There's no way him hell. He gave you hell. Both. That's why we got in a fight. I was going to ask. I was like, there's no way.

He didn't piss you off. You don't know about it. When we got into a fight, we got in a blows. Man, this fool. We got in a fist fight after the game. You got in a fist fight? You got in a fist fight? That's why we became brothers because he's like, everybody knows After the game But that's why we became brothers because he's like everybody know he crazy he just didn't know I was crazy too

No, we're in Portland. We playing in Portland. We getting our ass kicked because we ain't won in Portland fucking forever. Him and Bonzi on the field are going back and forth. They just... It's the end of the game. So, like, Kenyon's at the bottom. Bonzi's right here. I'm up at the top.

So, me and him is chirping. So, the referee starts telling Kenyon, talking to my OG, and was like, hey, get your rookie before I have to give him a technical with 10 seconds to go. So he goes, Richard, chill out, let it go, or some shit. So Bonzi looked at me and was like, yeah, fucking listen. And I'm like, fuck you and fuck him too.

I'm like, fuck me? How am I going, fuck me? What are you talking about? I'm talking about, it literally was like, we got the ball in bounds and walked straight to the locker room. It was like six seconds ago. So I go back. I'm pissed off. We had just lost like three or four in a row. So I'm sitting in my seat. So Kenyon walks in and was like, listen, stupid motherfucker, I'm trying to save you some money.

So I stand up. He goes and pushes me back down into my seat So I just rocked back up and started swinging with my eyes closed and shit Just like hoping I got that motherfucker before he got me and then Aaron Williams Aaron Williams fucking big-ass Aaron Williams light-skinned look like fucking Hulk Oh, yeah, he grabs Kenyon from behind and my last fucking swing hits him in his lip fucking has to get stitches So now I'm like We both scared I ain't mad at him, but I'm trying grabbing I'm mad at him, but I can't Know

That muff so we was whatever right so after the like air I think had to get a stitch right I can't definitely can't do nothing to him. Him. Oh. So. Yeah. I was hot. Oh, that month. So we was whatever, right? So after the, like, Aaron, I think, had to get stitches, right? So after the game, like, our seats on the bus were, like, right behind him. And I'm, like, scared. Like, I ain't said shit. Like, everybody still, only thing he gave me, Aaron Williams didn't talk, like, at all. No words.

He would just be like, you lucky I like you, young fella. And I was just like, oh, thank God Thank God, but yeah, we got to a full Because Ken already been fucking people Miss because they have this right next to each other. It just was like, wow. The train grabbed me and was like, he's a swan. He could have thrown Kenyan in fucking a tent. And then I might not be here right now.

Yeah, because he would have gotten the ad. We are thankful you are for our one year. We are thankful you are. We are thankful you are. That's a mean transition. See, that's what I'm talking about. Bernie. My name.

You remember Brendan and Etan. Yeah, yeah. Oh. Oh. Yes. What happened with that? You know, Brendan's one of us. Yeah. Yeah, one of us.

So. Etan's one of them. So what happened is, coach hated Brendan after. So we're playing the Bulls. We lose two. So we're going at it. Like, us versus the coaching staff. staff like you motherfuckers are stupid This is this so Brendan's like man. Everybody's stupid. This is what we need to do, right?

We're gonna switch we're playing like a zone against the Bulls switch it Gil deny Do Han from catching the ball here and passing it and he's fucking but so Brendan is like controlling the practice coach Well, if you guys know what y'all doing then y'all control practice so Reynolds are getting the fuck out of here, right? So we Brendan does everything this is what we need to boo boo. So we four old him niggas after that coach didn't like that so Starting this the second season coach was like yeah Brendan the first half of a Training camp. No, he the first half of training camp,

no, he said, all of training camp, you outplayed Etan. The first four games, you outplayed Etan. Etan played very well the last two games, so I'm going to start him. He's like, I want 66% of the time, and you're going to start him? Okay. So, Brendan's agent

said some shit in the paper. Yeah. Said some shit in the paper. Yeah. Said some shit in the paper. How'd that go? Right, it was like, you know,

Etan, we didn't read it. So, we don't care. I heard about it, I didn't read it. So, it's me,

it's me, this fucking boy, Antonio Danos, and Deshaun. So, we sit there talking about some hoes, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we see Etan.

So Etan's locker's on that side, right? And he just V-lines straight to Brendan. And, like, it caught our eye, like, what the fuck you doing? So Etan's starting to talk, and then you hear Brendan say, he stands up, he said and says man it says my agent You don't know how to read

It says Brendan's agent Not Brendan well he's a representation of you Fair Fair That's fair Go ahead with that And the way he was trying to angle Here Karan's stupid ass

Y'all ain't gonna do shit anyway I love Takes off right so he hits his Brendan Brendan was like like, you know, like cuz Brendan was getting like yeah. Yeah Right, but I don't think we realize how big Brendan got so it oh That's what you he turned turned him, hit him against, back then it was all wood. Our lockers was wood.

Hit him against the wood, and you heard, oh! Oh shit. Michael Ruffin did something Michael Ruffin did nothing do. Did exactly what Williams did to you. Grabbed the big motherfucker. Grabbed him, locked his hands. Nobody grabbed Brendan. Oh So he got three shots

Okay, that's I'm making it He was a woman's tennis player, yeah, he was he was getting them and we was all shit I bring and grab the trees and everything whenever they hit you hear the little Right, but it did no did it was She's bringing grab the trees and everything whenever they hit you hear the little right but No, it was That's exactly how so So ladies and gentlemen, we made it to one year I can say but they were probably when I make my But the problem was the strongest motherfucking locker room always you grab absolutely you got it yeah grab him and I was about to fucking you know about what is that whoopies app that's

how we do you I never told you how lucky you was bad talk my pills bro my medication almost fucked you up and lucky. You're lucky I like you. You know what I'm saying? The reason me and fucking Zo got into it. Oh, the Zo shit was... That's not funny. Offensive rebound. No, we're doing a drill.

I'm saying we're doing a drill where other teams have been offensive rebounds, other teams got a run. We're on the same team. Who's going to keep us off the glass? Bro. Right, once we make our mind up, so we made our mind up. Was it Byron? Yeah, yeah. Listen, we're going every time. Right? We're doing offensive

rebound drill. We get an offensive rebound. Yeah, shit. The goal is to win. Oh, we're going every single time. And every offensive rebound you give up, you have to, like, run it up and back. So we got like 12 offensive rebounds. They motherfuckers was pissed. So we over there just doing our shit.

And then Zoe was pissed off. Yeah, he was talking to you. What do you mean picks you? You was talking the most shit. Of course. So Zoe says, I wish you motherfuckers would go that hard in the motherfucking game.

I was like, motherfuckers, we're not supposed to go offensive rebound in the game. This is just a stupid-ass fucking drill, and I don't want to sprint. What the fuck do you want me to do, right? So, he says something to Kenyon, and Kenyon says something back to him. If you're such a fucking leader, why won't you do it? We'll leave it out. You know me, and I'm right back to you. So, he says some shit. You push me, and I, so, in reference, you push me me and I'm right back to you. So he said some shit.

You pushed me. So in reference, you pushed me and I hit you in your face. He went ballistic. And I don't know. I might have said something. But I just told him, listen, man, let him go. Oh, that shit. I saw y'all fight with LJ.

He was trying to get to Kenyon. There was three people trying to pull Zoe back. And Kenyon was just sitting there. Please let him go Listen please let him go Cuz in back of my mind I saw your fight with LJ Nigga you in trouble if they let you go cuz I'm a being listen I'm a not you to fuck up they let you go cuz you got that motherfucker swinging like this I've never seen somebody look so calmly at fucking Alonzo morning

Big ass being held back by three people trying to come at him and it's motherfucker didn't take a step back He's like let him go. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm fucking with Kenyan them Yeah, man, he look at you looking for he looking for a fighter No, but look I did we this is where I look this is where I respect him. I was like He was wrong for that He was wrong for that. He's like no I fucked up. I was like Kenny your mama would tell you was wrong for that He's like, you was like, like, it was like... I was dead fucking wrong.

And then she was still going on, and I was like... Yeah. You know, I like jokes, but you was wrong. Yo. I like jokes, bro. You was wrong. Dead wrong. You wrong.

Dead fucking wrong. Dead I should have been on his team. Oh, my God, bro. A lot going on on the one-year anniversary. It took him one time to calm down and be like, no, no, fuck that. This motherfucker... And I'm like, Ken didn't. And he was like, no, no, fuck that. This motherfucker. And I'm like, Kenan.

And he was like, okay, you're right. You're right. I would have been beat up. But I would have loved to be on that team. We might go a little longer. But I would have loved to be on that team. Just don't tell him. Like I said, I was dead fucking wrong.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was horrible. No, they were. You whole ass niggas were supposed to draft me. We drafted Brandon Armstrong. Brandon Armstrong. Sorry ass nigga. I had a pepper die.

Don't get into that. You don't have to Brandon Armstrong. Remember Brandon Armstrong Don't get into that Well the problem was don't disrespect Gary kiddo remember Kerry wasn't healthy and a love care was gonna be healthy He was more of like a combo Brandon was supposed to be more of a shooter Oh, so they got him as a backup to that. That's why he jumped over. He didn't learn how to shoot yet. And then when Gil kind of started playing, they would look at me and be like, yo, man, Gil. And I'm like, oh no, you wouldn't want me and Gil

in the same team. And they was like, what? Because, you know, Aaron and Sus, they was already struggling with me. I was like, bro, he's five more notches worse than I am. And they could not believe it. They was like, there's no way. There's no way Gilbert's worse. And I'm like, you, he's five more notches worse than I am. And they could not believe it. They was like, there's no way. There's no way Gilbert's worse. And I'm like, you guys are struggling with just me.

Sus and Aaron Harris and all the people. I'm like, if y'all added Gilbert to this shit, because we had Scalabrini, Jason Collins, me. So three of our four guys they drafted played 10 plus years. So we had a pretty good veteran crew. And I was like, he would have fucked it all up. At least you were. Yeah.

So let's get back. Damn. I know the inspector Brandon Armstrong but he really didn't fucking, he played sparingly. Well Kerry was healthy for the next few seasons. That's what I'm saying. So like damn. He wasn't Kerry Kittle now. Come on now, we ain't going to disrespect him. He was a shooting guard. He was an actual shooting guard.

No, well you didn't see him in summer league league and summer league we won summer league bro that motherfucker Yeah, he just never played no Brandon on the legend so You know, that's crazy that's not even the worst shit you said today. That's not even the worst shit you said. I'm merely a host. We talk about narratives, right? Narratives get created. We were just having that convo. Should players care about narratives around their legacy that are created by fans or the media?

Say that again now. Should players care about the narratives that are created around them by fans or the media? No. I think... Should they and do they, I guess, is the real question. I think they do. Should they? No. Do they? Yes. Do they? Yes.

But I think at the end of the day, we all look back on our shit and the shit we proud of, the shit that we feel like we could have done better, the shit that we feel like we could have done differently. But we know at the end of the day, the fact that we made it. And for certain guys, if you accomplish what you accomplished, right? You made an all-star team, right? I know for a fact that you, like, wish you would have made more and you thought, I didn't make one.

And we was on the same squad. And it was, like, the three of us, me, you, J-Kid. It was, like, unless we went in 60. So the point is, is, like, guys shouldn't care. You should look at, like, bro, what I accomplished. Am I happy? Did I give what I gave, right? Like, that's, to me, that's the legacy for you is in your own head.

Because people can think you're great and you feel like you're shit. Who gives a fuck about your legacy then if you're not happy with what you accomplished? If your legacy is that you are special and that you're elite and you're miserable with what you accomplished. Who gives a damn about legacy? Brandish, are people, players care about their narrative that's created by the fans and media? Or do they do their best to try to control it? I just care more about my peers. I think more about my peers, how they look at me, how they feel about what I brought to the game. I think that's the most important thing to me.

And then, not really like the media or the fans, but just like the people that work in the organizations and the NBA, you know, things like that. Like, that's more important to me than anything. Prashant. I'm delusional. We want to hear your thoughts. You're an important part of Guild Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop. You know, I'm one of them niggas that think I'm the greatest that ever played.

So I don't give a fuck about what nobody say, ever. Because I put in the work. And I was there when I was the greatest at every place. So I don't give a fuck about what nobody say, ever, because I put in the work. And I was there when I was putting in the fucking work. And there is some things I left behind that can prove or show potential of things that could have happened, would have happened, should have happened. But like I said, I didn't set those goals. So what a motherfucker said that wasn't there,

they don't know. People who was there, they seen it, they can say, hey man, that motherfucker could have been that nigga. If he'd have kept his head on straight, he'd have been a yes man, he'd have did this, did that, had potential. But I don't let a legacy be determined by anybody that ain't walked the path with me. You know what I've been through, you know where I was going. I fell off the track. I'm back. That's it.

You're a national champion. Me and Gilbert can't say that shit. I can. No, you can't say shit. Kenyon can't say that. No disrespect, because we was both number one seeds, and we snuck in, right? Well, see, I'm exempt from that shit. I got hurt, dog. See, y'all don't do that.

Y'all don't do that. Listen, we know what we're... Y'all know what the fuck's gonna happen. We would've whooped your ass. Healthy. Bro, because Lauren got... Go ask him. First of all, we...

Ask him. No, you don't... Ask him. I'm gonna whoop your ass, bro. Hey, do you remember that tape they played to them? The what? Do you remember they played the highlight... Ludo's played the highlight tape of Cincinnati?

But no, first of all, we weren't playing Cincinnati. That was before. I know, but remember, they was talking about toughness. Y'all need to be tough. Fuck out of here, bro. First of all, do you know what we would have done to you? Wait, was that? Do you know what I would have done to Damar, bro?

That was our first year. Damar was nice, bro. Damar was nice. I ain't disrespecting. You were shooting right over your 6'6". I'm not disrespecting Damar. Damar was nice. 6'9". But I wanted Damar. Like, I ain't disrespecting. You're shooting right over your 6'6". I'm not disrespecting DeMar. DeMar was nice. 6'9".

But I wanted DeMar. Like, I was like, yes. Okay. Like, we never, because he was ABCD. I was Nike. So I never crossed that. And like, I used to play against when they was mad. Guess where the ball was going.

Anyways. Yeah. When it was mad. You can want all that smoke you want. Guess where the ball was going. And Carlos and all those dudes playing at the pump camp. DeSean was the only one that wasn't there. DeSean Stevenson? No, no, no. Not DeSean. DeMar Deshaun was the only one that wasn't there. Deshaun Stevenson?

No, no, no, not Deshaun. DeMar DeMar. DeMar was the only one that wasn't there on those teams. And he was the one I wanted to play against him so bad. You never got him? I never played against him. Well, like when we got to the league, I would have. Oh, you didn't get him at the...

No, we never played. Because I used to watch him. Yeah, you're right. He was never at the pump. No, no, he was at the pump. I missed him. Y'all missed pump. It was the ball. I It was it was like boozer would be there Deshaun Stevenson would be there Barnes would be there Jared Jeffries all those dudes Yeah, you guys it was you and Darnell Knight y'all get down out night. That was my guy So he was a six pick in the dry. That's fine, bro. I get it

But he had a teammate, though. But he had a teammate. Yo, you helped him get to the sixth pick, bro. But that was the number one pick that year. Yeah, no, that was not. So that's where the ball was going. No disrespect, bro. You was that dude. You deserved to win National Player of the Year.

I ain't going. Consensus. Yes, there's no disrespect. Jason Terry and, you know, and you. But I'm saying, it was cool. We would have posted JT Little Ass up. No Logan was not no no no ATs JT whoa whoa whoa what a relax food solo You just submitted a relax when you got the Golden State

Yeah, you admitted that you couldn't do nothing with him these as you some gardeners matchup, but yeah No, you guys feel like That's all me right now. Y'all would have been out there tracking me. What's happening? Y'all would have been tracking me. Oh, that's not my matchup. Y'all would have both.

Y'all would have both been running by that motherfucker real fast. And I would have had 35. He made me a great one-on-one. Hey, all them matchups and all that shit, and I would have had 35. Bro, we was deep bro

But the problem with what problem with legacy so let's ask what so all that shit is said though Why y'all get the number one seed? Well, we know fuck all I know We didn't know we didn't know that you're number nine. No, sophomore year, sophomore year. He was gone. No, sophomore year was your freshman year. Our sophomore year that he was already gone. So it was your freshman year. The reason why.

So my senior year was 2000. My sophomore year was my sophomore year. So what seed were y'all that year? Nine. We were number one. No, no, no, no, no. We were number one. You got a number one seed because I got hurt. 2001, right? 2000, number one. No. 2000, Gilbert. We were no, no, no. You got a number one seed because I got hurt. 2001, right?

No. 2000. We were two seed your second year. We were one seed your first year. What seed were we? You don't even smoke weed like that, bro. Gil. So we beat the 16th and played ninth?

Gil. You only got the number one seed, dude, because I fucking got hurt. You would have been the number one seed somewhere else. No. What do you got to do with us? Y'all wouldn't have got a number one seed, period, because I fucking got hurt. You would have been the number one seed somewhere else. No. What do you got to do with us? Y'all wouldn't have got the number one seed, period. You crazy as hell.

Stafford and Cal got the two number one seeds. Cal didn't. It was Stafford. Stafford and us. Yeah, we was walking. Man, we would have put foot to ass.

Y'all, everybody benefited because I got hurt. But everybody got hit by Tommy at the playoffs. See, this is the thing. Cincinnati had a reputation We're having all of their players out on probation They'll Danny Fordson He told me a story Danny

His motherfucker pick him up on his recruiting visit and go buy a pack of Marlboro Reds and just pack it like this So they was all on probation and then go buy a pack of Marlboro Reds and just pack it like this. I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, damn. So they was all on probation. So they was always trying to thug everybody. We was just trying to sprint and run around them. We would have whooped their ass. Not a chance. So let's keep this thing moving as best we can.

What's this cookie taste like? Legacy. Okay, legacy is this. We work our asses off, right, to be in positions of where we want to be, right? We do. Like, we can say we don't care about legacy. We do because we train that hard to be positioned in a place.

But the problem with the legacy is it doesn't all matter about our work ethic. Our work ethic has nothing to do with it because if we're drafted to a team that don't care about winning they care about money Our legacy dies there if we if we leave to go win Right Kevin Durant right our legacy gets questioned, right? So we're in this this this given pool where we're being judged by dudes who have no ideal about The ins and the outs of it and that's the problem with legacy because our legacy is determined by somebody who have no idea about the ins and the outs of it. That's the problem with legacy, because our legacy is determined by somebody who has, they've never seen nothing about us besides what we're playing like. That's the problem with the legacy. To Gil's point, all of us, you've been a part of the NBA family your whole life.

Any of us ever sat around and talked about someone's legacy? No. No. No. We only answering this question because, like, media puns. Somebody brought it up. Somebody else brought it up. Somebody brought it up.

We've sat at a million dinners. We've been at, like, a million camps. We've all... We talk about who we think is better, like, little bullshit, but not, like, yo, so, what do you... How do you think KD's legacy was affected by that? Yeah. No.

No. No. So, if it's not a conversation that the players have, then ultimately, while there might be interest in it, like, I'm not saying that the only thing

we care about is what fans should care about. They care about other things than we do. But it's like, how important is it to a player if your peers

aren't talking about it? For the most part, it feels like, for you guys, it's more just praising guys, guys that maybe didn't get the love from the fans or the media.

A lot of people look at pro basketball reverence right now. Oh, he only averaged this, he only averaged that. But hearing it from y'all, y'all always show love to whoever it may be. Just understanding how difficult it is for anybody to get to the NBA and get to that level. He don't always show love. I got a question because it kind of irritated me because it's like the dude Zach Lowe. Is that a real name? Zach Lowe.

Zach Lowe. Right? You said Lowe. I don't give a fuck what his name is. Okay, I'm just, you know, as a host I have to make sure you're accurate. What I'm saying is he decided to give up his rights to vote on All-Star and All-NBA. Yeah. Because he couldn't take the pressure.

Yeah. My question is what fucking pressure do you have? What fucking pressure. Do you have? Fucking pressure. Do you we we gotta suck your asshole to be an all-star in all NBA players, right? Metaphor metaphor there is no tangible physical I knew it. I knew it. All these years. I was like, how did he make the All-Star game? It's trash. We were under the influence for several months.

That's how you did it. Grow up. No, but what I'm saying is. Oh, shit. No, what I'm saying is. He has pressure. No, who he likes or dislikes. Is it an each year thing? Is it an each year thing?

Or is it like, if you want to make all-star lights? We're going the camera off them generally are still going are we still going the generator has tapped out had a two and a half Hour living we have exceeded that about oh my god We almost there are right now That's some sick shit, bro. Thank you. They're with us. Can we plug it in? We're still rolling, right? This story was dead. Ladies and gentlemen, we are still rolling. I want to hear your point.

Can we just pop these regular lights on? You're choosing who's an all-star, who's an all-NBA. We just need some lights. Your vote on who you think should be an all-NBA player costs people money. That's why he didn't want that. He didn't want it. He didn't want to be responsible for somebody missing out on money. But that's the problem. Why are y'all even in a position to do this?

Because in reality, how I treat you, meaning if I know you have a vote and you're asking me a question, I have to change how I treat you. Meaning, if I know you have a vote and you asking me a question, I have to change how I approach you. Because it ain't about my numbers anymore. It's about if you like me or not. It's my interaction. So the fact that these people who actually have voting rights,

this ain't even about basketball anymore. Like, I wish we can vote on if you get a vote. Right? You get a vote. Right? No, what I'm saying is, right? You get to vote. You get to vote if we make money. Like, you are in control of who gets super max deals.

I should be in control if you get a raise or even be in position. Skip Bayless, you think fucking fucking players are gonna vote for you to vote for us fuck no hell no you think LeBron James gonna look at your name like he see you get a vote no everybody's gonna be like no no no no no no what are you doing but that's the real some extra light oh you're going off because but that but but but I it kind of pissed me off like wait a minute this is this is a weird thing that you guys are in position to judge who gets to 33 million Oh the extra million because of your votes and you guys have no input on that. I don't do it That's why I know I know added to me. I feel like I am most qualified

But ultimately respectfully it's like once they asked me if I would like to be a part of the all nba the voting thing i didn't want to be a part of it because i want everything that i say at all times to be my opinion not how i'm going to vote not why i'm there i'm just saying your fault then yeah i agree i don't want to be a part they asked me if that was your fault for not being it what do you mean he was what are you talking about because he's a no one He's a reporter when the scooter never played and he gets a vote right now if I had to vote Second team no matter what I say about a player. I know his game. So someone say are where's Brunson? I'm gonna I Brunson this year right now right now He's second team. He is second team all NBA right now Now if we start no matter how much shit about I talk about what the property is second team all NBA right now. If we start right now, no matter how much shit I talk about,

he is second team right now. I'm not gonna say, fuck him. But the problem is, I know some of them. Like, if it was you, like, I hate you. So, like, I would never vote for you, right? And I have personal bias. So that's the thing is, like, I can't sit down there and be like, well, I can't stand that motherfucker.

He's a piece of shit. I know his story. He ain't, you know, that's all bullshit. You know what I'm saying? We say that, but when we get the vote, we gonna vote. That's, we say that but now we get them when we get the Honestly, no, I'm not honest no matter if you fucking post up you still first team guy You know what I mean? Like I'm still gonna do that. I'm not gonna sit there and say oh he told me I wasn't shit in my podcast. I'm not gonna say because of that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to sit there and say, oh, he told me I wasn't shit in my podcast.

I'm not going to say because of that, I'm going to make him 13. I hate to cut this off, but I got to go. I got to pick up my kids. I love y'all. I really do. I got to pick up. Why are you acting like you're a good father? No, I didn't say that.

My wife's out of town. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I don't got a backup. That's the thing. If I'm not there, there's no one else. Can you clean this shit up? You got a lot of... You're bringing down my property value, dog.

Remember when I used to eat chicken like that? Just back at the bus, just fucking making messages. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Zarina. We were all the way live. We appreciate you, Richard Jefferson. We got to grab that mic from your argument before you take off. Did you say your wife? What? Your wife? What? Your wife?

What? Hey. Yeah, I don't think you're welcome back. Okay, dad? What? Okay, dad? No, she works with my media company. Relax, bro.

You can put your hand down. Oh, I'm sorry. Hey, oh, man. I was trying to play like I was talking. Hey, hang on. Bro, I'm done, bro. I'm done. Real life, like, whoa. One of the funniest things I taught her was, I'm trying to find her DM.

I hit you. You know, we're going to... Ladies and gentlemen. I got you. The power went out. Gil, we are live on the air still. I'm going to save you from yourself. The power went out. Yeah, we're live on the air still I'm gonna save you from yourself the power went out We are still rolling. Can you see the red light? She's double cheeked up all of said like you I told you we're rolling and you still did not live facts

I tell you the red light you still ran through it fast like the mellow ball in Charlotte. In fact you did The mellow is stopping at no red lights. I don't know if y'all seen that video. That's neither here nor there. But this has been the one year anniversary special of Gil's Arena. They tried to turn the power out. They tried to cut it. We still had to give you the show. You know I love it. It was a little wild. We were under the influence.

Please don't take anything we said personally or serious. Yeah, you do. But we'll be back again tomorrow. Oh, fuck that. We're not ending the show because he just left We're gonna do at least three three more minutes Give me give me your three minutes bill you run the show you write my check say something something shots Can we get some shots? We're not gonna end soon as he leave like this was you don't want to feel important like it might Like he was

It was between the Wildcats. I had nothing to do with it. Yeah, but look. No, fuck that. We know what you're talking about. All of it's going to take too long? Fuck that. I want you to really enjoy it. We're going to get into it tomorrow.

We have a lot more to discuss. But, yeah, let's just reflect. One-year anniversary. I mean, just like the 100 episode man like like we really gotta really like sit back and just be thankful yeah just it's hard for original crew like you know when you talk about just media itself like usually how we go at each other and the shit we do, everyone else takes this shit personal, right? Everybody takes it personal.

Everyone get conflicted about what they say on shows and what they say to each other. And we're a crew that, like, we've played. We've been in locker rooms. We've been here before. We understand that there's camera, then there's real life, right? And I remember someone was like,

yeah, you know, you and McKenzie, y'all going at it. Someone was like, yo, I don't give a fuck what y'all say. He ain't going nowhere. I don't give a, unless he decides, like, y'all, I'm done, I'm done. He ain't going nowhere.

I don't give a fuck what nobody says. That's who we are. All right, we're loyal motherfuckers to our, we're loyal to what we put ourselves in position to be loyal to, right? And the fact that we're still here doing our thing, right? It is funny that the power went out last year, the first episode, to the fact that it's here again, right?

The 21st. And, you know, it really makes it special that no one thought we was going to be here a year, shit, no one thought it was going to be this big? Yo, they tried to write us a message, we didn't write back. Think about the sauce we created. We created the secret sauce that a lot of guys are trying to duplicate. Respectfully. But they can't duplicate the secret sauce, because it's like, we authentic to our takes,

to the content we produce. And it's not taken seriously, because to me, it's entertainment. You know what I'm saying? It's like, all right, I know I got to come on here and put on a show, but I know I got to give my honest opinion. I got to stand on my own. I'm going to stand on my business.

But at the end of the day, nigga nigga we shake hands and go about your business I'm saying like but that's the thing that people can't Duplicate because they're like damn how y'all make Shire really think he can guard you BJ Really? Yeah, I'm gonna even paying attention But the energy made it feel like wait, do you really think that you can go lock that nigga up? Like straight but at the end of the day it feel like... Do you really think that you can guard? I'll lock that nigga up, man. Straight up. But at the end of the day,

he's still Brandon Jennings. I can't take nothing away from him. He's still going to get his buckets. He's still going to do his thing. But for the sake of the conversation, people can get it twisted like, oh, this nigga really think he can bust your ass, BJ. Kill.

You got Lee Gill alone, man. Oh, man, you want Kenya, made a man. Listen, man. Literally came over my house right after man Literally came over my house after that we just thought I think that's the problem because main media can't do it because main media They are employees to each other. Right? They never played. They never understood that we can go here, talk shit, and then go out there and play.

Sit there, argue on the court, come out and play, let's go to dinner. Right? They don't understand that. Right. Well, our dinners be off the chain, huh? Yeah. And it only get personal when you make it personal.

And even personal is not personal. Ever. No, you just heard me and Just say we had a fistfight real live fucking fistfight and We sit there and laugh and joke like shit not like it Happening that you know About it now. I get out. This is the difference. This is what? Media and fans need to understand

Fist fight, right? We go back and forth. We don't think about it. Media sees it. They're the ones that causes the rift and makes it look at each other like, I thought we was cool. Right? Because they don't have no understanding

of how it's supposed to be. Well, think of the perception, though. This is what I get, and y'all probably don't get this as much as I do, but I hear, through the grapevine, Lil Burz and such and such don't want to come on the show, man,

because of the Pat Bevin interview, man, the energy you gave him, and everybody thought that shit was real, and I'm like, that was light. But I was chilling. Like, we was chilling. I didn't want to know

why the nigga, you know, said what he said, and you had to come on our show to say it, but woo-woo. So, you know, I'm gettingin'. Like, we was chillin'. I didn't want to know why the nigga, you know, said what he said. And you had to come on our show to say it? So, you know, I'm getting DMs like, man, that shit, is this shit real for real? Y'all was really like that? I'm like, my nigga, it's TV. What y'all on? Oh, you don't want to come on the show?

Because you think I'm really on that type of shit? Oh, you want to come on the show because Kenyon always want to beat niggas up. Come on, man. Y'all for real? That's why y'all don't want to return cars? Y'all don't want to? Stop. Stop.

It ain't really like that. Like, don't be scary. Don't be on the bullshit. Because I know how to be professional. And I know he know how to be professional. Shout out to your point. A lot of scary people. But a lot of people that have recognized the value of the movement. A lot of people will pull up unprompted. Shout out to your point. Not me. A lot of scary people. Don't explain.

But a lot of people that have recognized the value of the movement. A lot of people who pulled up unprompted. Shout out to Zion. Shout out to all the amazing guests we had. Steph, obviously BJ, you used an Under Armour connection to let us go out to Baltimore to interview Steph. Trey Young. You just think about all the people who have pulled up.

Iggy and Evan Turner. I think we did. Yeah. Isaiah Thomas and N'Zika letting us show up and pull up and come through despite some situations that went down out there You know, yeah, so precursor system current situation going on in the league. We've said no matter what they say about Anything we do I See you motherfuckers. Hmm. I watch everything I pay attention to everything and I see you motherfuckers out there grouping up now

It used to be one and one two and two now you motherfuckers is foes and fives now Super teaming right you should be a you know what I mean because doing something that they They didn't think about right and now that this you can talk shit about it now you want to do it. Mm-hmm because you realize that Guess guess fucks your shows up. Mm-hmm guess you got to chase them some bitches around They they think they got better shit to do in life. And now they do not now now your your your your your show is predicted on guess and if your show is predicted on guests, and if your show is predicted on guests and you can't get a guest, it kind of fucks you up.

Yeah. So now you see why we are each other's guests. Man. Pull up. You don't want to pull up on us. But then you set a certain standard with those guests, right? Oh. So you go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

You got to have that every time. You got to have that shit every fucking time because you go, motherfucker, you've been A, A, A a a a a a and you come with a C motherfucker mother would be like They expecting this yeah, so that's why if you're gonna do it like let the shit be a build-up you need to start here And we like like the fucking rock wall, right? Mm-hmm So that's why if you're going to do it, let the shit be a build-up. You need to start here. It's like the fucking rock wall, right? Never mind. No, no, no.

Maybe it's me. No, no, no. You got to calm that motherfucker, man. You're saying something that, and this just goes for all content creators and anybody starting a podcast. What he's saying is 100% correct. You have to be careful in your content. Content is the new money. We back!

We not stop! We back! They can't keep us down! Content is the new money, man. Country Wayne said it, and I had to D him. I'm like, what the fuck did you mean? Content is the new money, man. Hey, Country Wayne said it, and I had to D him. I'm like, what the fuck did you mean? Content is the new money. He invests himself in content.

Now, when it comes to content, you have to be careful on your guests. If you're going to go on guests, you have to be careful on your guest list, right? Because what ends up happening is you get this guest, he blows your shit up every guess after that false short Mm-hmm. Now you're sitting here chasing the high so you have to You have to step in a certain way like you're gonna have to be awful Let's say I got okay. I got you know Kodak black and then Drake want to come on. Oh I Might have to turn down Drake cuz I'm not ready for you yet. I'm not in position

My page ain't in position to pick you Right, you're not eating it. Don't go to Kodak black to Drake didn't everything below that goes here I gotta be able to build a foundation before I get there and people don't know how to turn that down I think about this too. It's like the news. You become familiar with the news anchor, and you trust him delivering you the news. Becomes a familiar face every day, 6 o'clock, such and such. He's going to tell us what's going on in the world.

We the news. We the familiar face that everybody become familiar with. We get to see them every day, four times a week. They telling us the real. Hey, Tuesday they might have such and such on. Maybe. If we feel like it. Maybe. We feel like it.

We don't need them to be on, because we are the news. We going to give you all our perspectives, and it's going to be all authentic and different. What's better than that? That's real. So for me, I just want to thank all y'all, man. Obviously Gil, you had this idea for a while to see it come to fruition.

And shout out to all the men and women behind the scenes too that made this possible, that grind and bring their energy and effort every day to make this show as successful as it's been. Your contributions do not go unappreciated. I tell y'all every day how much I appreciate y'all. But just what y'all bring to this, and it was kind of a new direction, right? There's been shows with panels before and all that type of stuff, but we wanted to present and offer fans and

viewers that insight, right? You guys, I mean, I'm listening to you and RJ on the couch telling stories that I imagine you wouldn't really tell at a lot of places, or if you did, there'd be some producer in the back saying, cut it, we can't run this. Like, we embrace all that stuff, and most importantly Yo keep it going no, but we have to share look and it's like I know You talking so they're alive and that's the they gotta be Steven the back Yeah, we had a six-way box every eight minutes ago, you know But this is the show is live and this is how it goes But really appreciate to the fans to you guys have pulled up showed out

Everybody in the chat the good stuff the best of all that and helps make us great You guys have a ton of opinions and we appreciate all of them But I think for us like we've done a year now and the goal is to keep it going We've seen where this channel started at now. We're over 500,000 subscribers. We've done over 200 million views. I think 32.7 million Minutes watching the show. I think that's my are y'all trying to do me like I'm at the Grammy They try to Ignore the red light in the corner He had the comedy, motherfucker. They be flashing that bitch. What are you doing? Come on, man. That was just DJ.

Play the music. DJ, maybe he'll get this. Damn, my own crew turned their back on me, tried to betray me, but nonetheless, nah, just what we've done in this year, what we're going to keep doing. And Gil, like you said, a lot of people are trying to do it, but they don't necessarily have the swag, the sauce, the flavor.

I thank all of y'all. I thank Lexi, too, who's a part of Gil's Arena. Thank everybody, season one, for their contributions to get to where we're at right now. And we real with this shit. Everything you see is real.

You can go on YouTube and search things that have gone on to the show in previous times, but it's all real. So to be able to sit on this couch

with y'all every single day, Monday through Thursday, is truly a blessing. And our lovely ladies. And we got more for you. Same ones every single time. Come on. Thank you for single time. Come on. Thank you for the beverage service.

Yeah, come on. Thank you for the beverage. It's not like y'all ugly. Come on. Come on, y'all can sit around. He's single. Say it on that side. Yeah, say it on that side.

Say it again. Come on. Come on, y'all are here every time we throw a party. So we appreciate y'all. This has been the one-year anniversary of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Well, well, we got much more to come, so we will see y'all tomorrow. so so Thank you. so That's a wrap on the one-minute anniversary of Gil's Arena.