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Starting point is 00:01:02 Big Gil. We back, Gil. We back. We're, Gil. We back. We're not playing around at 2.25. Because when the song came out, it was a Nelly feel. Like back in the day, it was like, okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Then when you seen Jill, you're like, oh, you bring it back.

Starting point is 00:01:16 Okay. Shout out LeVar Ball and his big three. Gil, it's a special day here in the arena. It's no longer Gil's Arena. It is Gil's World because it is your birthday today January 6 we storming the arena We got a full crew here today white Sorry, why people white people trying to take the day trying to take this is a January 6 is a good

Starting point is 00:01:41 From me 2021 to try to take your day. We are taking it back. Taking it back. Take it back with SARS. We got a full house in the arena today. First off, we got NBA champion Swaggy P. Nick Young back in the building. Swaggy, you got a special jersey you want to share with the audience. What you rocking right now?

Starting point is 00:01:59 Oh man, it's the Gil Asian number nine right here. Like Jeff Chinks. He left this at, you know, we had Thanksgiving at the house This the Gil, Agent Number Nine right here. Yeah, man. Like Jeff Tinks. He left us at, you know, we had Thanksgiving at the house before he got traded. He just left us. He just left the number?

Starting point is 00:02:12 I need a sign, though. Dang, that's. Agent Nine. That's the year you came looking crazy. Came, yeah. Came back looking crazy. Had to stay at your house because. Yeah, you were doing some crazy shit.

Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah. Took the whole Thanksgiving. Yeah, people was threatening him. Mess up your, what I'm gonna mess up your probation, something like that. Yeah, I'm good. I'm outta there. Had to go live with my partner. Took the work from me. Took the work.

Starting point is 00:02:36 Took the room. You took your room and the work. That's a good friend. I gave him Thanksgiving for the main room. A blessing for a blessing. He gave me his for the main room. You know... A blessing for a blessing. He gave me his crib when I was a rookie. You know how NBA players live, man.

Starting point is 00:02:49 They got the main room done. There's no... There's no other accessories throughout the house. Futon, I'm by myself here. I'm good. I'm good. Representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, in the building.

Starting point is 00:03:01 Ho, ho, ho, ho! And on this side of the couch, we got former number one pick and recent birthday celebrator as well, Kenya Martin. Here's your winner. I'm just going to tuck mine in. Today, KJ's birthday as well. Shout out KJ.

Starting point is 00:03:25 KJ. Shout out KJ. KJ. Shout out KJ. Yeah. Happy birthday, young man. And last but not least- And they got three Caps in the family. No, we got my daughter Dylan, the 22nd, Shakira's dad, the 22nd. Got me, Shakira, KJ. Oh, it's- Oh, yeah. Y'all knock it out early.

Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah, here. Whole family full of Caps, huh? Yeah, we're knocking them out, right? Back to back to back, yeah. And last but not least, the man known as Semitown, the man known as the King of the Kings. Yeah. He's the King of the Kings. Yeah. and last but not least the man on a cemetery lyric today That was hard. Exquisite. That was hard. That shit weak.

Starting point is 00:04:05 I ain't going to lie, dog. That was hard. Sean is back in the building, 2025. What's up? New year, new me, same me. Yeah. I see you taking up. We got the Hi, I'm Larry robe, the shoes, greatness website

Starting point is 00:04:22 crack. And I had to order me some stuff. It's on the way. You know, it's a lot to talk about. It's a lot to talk about. We are only six days into this year, but a lot has transpired. We got a lot to get into. But for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you.

Starting point is 00:04:37 Our traditional version, vertical mobile version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support your favorite show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today Jimmy Butler's time at South Beach may soon be coming to an end But how much blame does Pat Riley deserve for the current state of heat culture? LeBron celebrated his 40th birthday and continues making history but are the Lakers doing enough to ensure the King has a chance to win another ring an

Starting point is 00:05:04 SGA has guided the Thunder to a franchise record 15-game win streak. But is he the real MVP this season? He already won the Gills Arena MVP last year. He's got support of several stars around the league this season. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GILL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pickup.

Starting point is 00:05:23 And, GILL, you got some picks up tonight for the crew. Let's take a look at Gil's picks. Okay. Went up to what? 1.4 or 5 times your break, Gil. I'm just trying to get a win. You're just trying to get a dub. I'm just trying to get a win.

Starting point is 00:05:37 You bet a dollar, you get $1.25. You went 25. You went last time. I won the last two times. So you got Yonis. I'm not taking no risks. Yonis hired 9.5 rebounds. Gil, you also said you got a clean slate with Doc Rivers.

Starting point is 00:05:51 He got to earn your hate in 2025. The hate for 2024 is gone. Clean slate. Even though they've been getting their ass barbecued at the end of 2024, right now it's clean slate. You got Kawhi higher.5 first quarter rebounds. You got Ant-Man

Starting point is 00:06:08 higher 2.5 three-pointers made. And Pascal Siakam higher 5.5 rebounds. How does everybody on the couch feel about Gil's

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Starting point is 00:07:01 And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to take this conversation to South Beachdog account. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to take this conversation to South Beach to start. The Jimmy Butler Heat saga has reached its boiling point with the Heat suspending Butler seven games for what they describe as multiple instances of conjunct detrimental to the team.

Starting point is 00:07:20 Suspension comes after months of public tension between Butler and team president Pat Riley. Here is a brief timeline of the events which led to Jimmy Bucket's suspension. So back in May after the Heat were eliminated from the playoffs, Butler said they could have beat the Celtics and Knicks if healthy, to which Pat Riley responded to by telling Jimmy to keep his mouth shut. This past offseason, Butler was looking for an extension with the Heat, but Riley said it wasn't happening. Butler said he was going to bet on himself this season to play his way to another big payday. Amidst trade rumors, Butler decided to troll the Heat

Starting point is 00:07:48 by dyeing his hair in a variety of colors, which some claim were the teams of his preferred trade destinations. In early December, Shams reported Butler would be down for a trade to the Suns, and Butler's agent, Bernie Lee, clapped back on Twitter, calling cap. Shams stood by his reporting, and it proved to be accurate, because on Christmas Day, Shams once again reported Butler wanted to be traded with Riley saying that wasn't happening yet again. But after scoring just six points and getting benched in the fourth quarter of the

Starting point is 00:08:13 Heat's loss to the Pacers on January 2nd, Jimmy was asked what he wants to see happen and offered this response. What do I want to see happen? I want to see me get my joy back from playing basketball. And wherever that may be, we'll find out here pretty soon. But I want to get my joy back. I'm happy here, you know, off the court. But I want to be back to somewhere dominant. I want to hoop. And I want to help this team win.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Right now, I'm not doing that. Can you get your joy back here on the court? Probably not. Damn. So Jimmy just wants his joy back the following day that he released this statement announcing Butler's suspension, saying, quote,

Starting point is 00:08:58 We have suspended Jimmy Butler for seven games for multiple instances of conduct detrimental to the team over the course of this season, and particularly the last several weeks. Through his actionless statements, he has shown he no longer wants to be part of this team. So according to Shams, part of Butler's frustration with the Heat centers on the fact he urged him to add another star to the roster the past three summers. In the past three summers, that has not happened. So far this season, Butler's averaging 17.6 points in nearly 31 minutes per game, which are both lows during his stint in South Beach.

Starting point is 00:09:26 And the seven-game suspension puts a 35-year-old six-time All-Star near the threshold for the league's 65-game minimum for end-of-season awards. So as y'all see this situation unfold, what's your reaction to Jimmy Butler's seven-game suspension by the Heat? Did you just say he averaged in 17? And why did you mention the 65 games like he was up for that shit anyway? Just stating information.

Starting point is 00:09:52 I'm just, but... It's a solid 17.6. It's a solid 17.6. But you mentioned that shit in the same breath as like he was up for that shit. He could turn it around second half of the season. And average what? 19? What the fuck, Jos like he was up for that shit. He could turn it around second half of the season. And average what? 19? Fuck, Josiah.

Starting point is 00:10:09 Don't start that shit in 25, man. Okay, I'll be lifting. All right? Me too. I'll be lifting. I'll be lifting. I'll be lifting. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:17 Let him know, Jones. Let him know, Jones. Tell him you got your brother here. I got my family. Family. I'm not going to force me here today. We're not playing until 2027. We're going to call daddy.

Starting point is 00:10:29 It's going to be a trio. Hey, guess what? They might get the best of me, but the first one. The first one? Oh, he going to pay for it. Hey, he going to ask them to stop. We rolling packs. I'm just going to choke him.

Starting point is 00:10:43 I'm not going to punch. I'm just going to choke him. Choke him. Right? And he going to ask them to stop. You're packs. I'm just gonna choke. I'm not gonna punch. I'm just gonna choke him. Choke him. Right? And he gonna ask them to stop. You living it out. You living it out. You living it out.

Starting point is 00:10:51 I already thought about getting jumped before, bro. Listen, they gonna ask you to stop. He gonna be like, hey, stop. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Security! No, but in all sincerity, though, what's the reaction to Jimmy Butler getting the seven-game

Starting point is 00:11:06 suspension by the Heat? I just mentioned the 65 games because obviously he has the potential to opt out next season and try to get a bigger deal. This could severely impact his ability to do so.

Starting point is 00:11:15 Shaw, you used to be a Heat fan. You did. Confidence coffee. You moved over to this. You want me to go first? I mean, you were. You were.

Starting point is 00:11:29 Rolling with Jimmy Butler Butler in prior times. Okay. What causes this? What's the reason this happened? Because they don't have a superstar. Everything was good just a week ago. Month ago. year ago. When Jimmy said those statements, he was out in the playoffs, right? They didn't win that playoff series because he was out.

Starting point is 00:11:52 He made that statement after he was out, like, look, if I was playing, y'all wouldn't have won. A year later, he plays 60 games, nothing happens. But is he asking for a superstar? He said the last three years, right? All I'm saying is his unhappiness has come between that point and now. So since then you haven't really played like the Jimmy Butler that got us there the year before. But yes. But, but. Ain't nobody, like we've stated time and time again, right? What's that before you got me? Ain't nobody going there.

Starting point is 00:12:26 There are. No, no, no. There's a timeline for that too. Haven't we said time and time again ain't nobody going there? It's a little early for a function. Look, here's the timeline that proves that people will go there. What's the timeline? Dwyane Wade was the last superstar.

Starting point is 00:12:42 They drafted. That they had. Drafted. That left Miami. Did not get a finish. When Dwyane Wade left, nobody was there. Right? When Dwyane Wade went back to Chicago, they had to rebuild. They had nothing.

Starting point is 00:12:56 Okay. They ended up getting Jimmy Butler, getting Bam, getting Tyler Hero. Tyler and Bam are the centerpieces of that. They thought bringing Jimmy Butler in through free agency would help something. That's the first free agency that they actually got through since Chris Bosh

Starting point is 00:13:12 and LeBron James. So we can't say Miami don't bring Chris Bosh, LeBron James, Antoine Walker, all these other guys that came down to Miami, right? Andre Iguodala came over. One guy.

Starting point is 00:13:25 Right? That's one time. Certain guys, right? But what I'm saying, I'm talking about the timeline, though. I'm just talking about the timeline. One guy made all that happen, though. I'm talking about the timeline.

Starting point is 00:13:34 One guy made all that happen, though. The timeline is, since Dwyane Wade left, Jimmy Butler is the only free agent that got there. Think about this. All the moves they want to make to bring people in,

Starting point is 00:13:44 they tied up in other contracts. Bradley Beal, if they want to make to bring people in, they tied up in other contracts. Bradley Beal, if they wanted to get him here in Washington, they ain't got the contracts to match that when they rebuilding. So they was stuck. Why didn't they get Dan? They didn't get Dan because they couldn't get it. Even when guys are free agents, they're not going. They going.

Starting point is 00:13:58 They definitely going. They definitely going. That's a narrative that they painted. There's a narrative that they painted. Other than when LeBron went, because there wasn't... Because there hasn't been any available... There hasn't been any available ones to go.

Starting point is 00:14:10 And they haven't had the... He hasn't been able to do it. They just haven't been able... You know what it is? Miami's a perfect destination for people... No, it's not. No, no, no, no. Period.

Starting point is 00:14:19 The narrative has been painted by us on this show that somehow Miami's not a place to go because they work too hard, they play championship basketball, and whoo-whoo-whoo. No. Right? They don't play championship basketball.

Starting point is 00:14:30 They play championship basketball because of one guy. Everybody works hard. No, no, no. There's this accountability when it comes down to it when you're not playing and we call you out

Starting point is 00:14:36 and you don't like it and you want to go somewhere else cool. It ain't for you. It ain't for everybody. That's how they see it, right? Okay. But they don't mean that people don't want to go there

Starting point is 00:14:43 because it's not a place to go. You want to go there if you want to to win you want to go there if you want to actually get your professionalism, right? That's what Pat Riley bring and you go ahead up against somebody who's professional Jimmy It's not professional for you to be on the bench and tell everybody on your team that if you play we the one why Kenny Because that cuz we don't know what I'm saying, but why was we don't. Why would you undermine them in front of the world? Why would you say that in front of your team? In front of the world. If we was healthy, we would have won. That's a hypothetical.

Starting point is 00:15:12 But it's still a normal statement. If we was all healthy, we would have won. What did the Colonel say? That's not the type of shit we be on. Says who? The Colonel. Okay, but what I'm saying is you're not even upper- I'm the Colonel. This is my ship. I said don't do that. But that's what I'm saying is you're you're you're you're you're not even upper man. I'm the Colonel. What is my ship?

Starting point is 00:15:25 I said don't do that. So that's what I'm saying. Tell me that don't know the world No, you know the same. That's the same guy right here. That's it the fucking team. He played on in Lebanon Mm-hmm had a fucking chance to beat the Denver Nuggets Yes, I did So Jimmy Butler can't say the fuck date. So he so so he can't say that if we wait I was playing Same guy was gonna be the reason we have a chance I'm not gonna say that if I'm on the beach the same Same confidence not to do to be on the beach like your

Starting point is 00:16:05 But what I'm saying is your star your star said it thought that was It's the same confidence. That's not the type of dude I am. Same confidence. Not the dude that be on the bench be like, yo, bro, we the one. Same confidence. But what I'm saying is your star said it. Oh, you never thought that, Rashad? But as a star, star is where it's at. I know, star players say that. Whoa, hold on. Right? So you never thought that?

Starting point is 00:16:16 Thought what? If you played more, y'all had a chance to win? Yes, I have. That's not a bad thing to say, though. No, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a bad thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:24 Not a bad thing. You got in trouble for that? No, no, the bad thing. That's not even what we saying. No, the's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. In what situation? What is the situation? Pat Riley said, if you're not playing, you should keep your mouth shut. You should. That's exactly what he said. If you're not playing.

Starting point is 00:16:49 You can't do that. You can't do that in the public. So that means he's looking at you like, oh, that's what we own? I mean, that's Pat, though. No, I don't give a fuck. He did take LeBron James. Pat told LeBron James, don't bring them cookies this year. And what happened?

Starting point is 00:17:03 And they didn't go home. And he left. And he ran. And he left. And he ran. And he ran. And we still got two out there. And he ran. Okay, but listen, you're not bigger than us. Over some cookies?

Starting point is 00:17:11 They are. They are. They are. Obviously, they're not. We are bigger than you. You're not, though. You're not, because we all said you left. No, that's the funny part.

Starting point is 00:17:20 We are bigger than him. He won two after. But you're not. You're not. We're not talking about we. It is a we. We're not talking about we. Imagine Johnson. We are bigger than him. He won two after, though. You're not talking about we. It is a we. We're not talking about we. Magic Johnson, we are bigger.

Starting point is 00:17:28 We're talking about the situation. Don't put we in this. It's them two. Pat, sit in the message. You're not bigger than the situation. Magic Johnson said, yo, sit down. We are Showtime. You're nobody. He was right.

Starting point is 00:17:40 He moved to the Knicks. He ain't doing nothing. He moved to Miami. He got Sha Miami. He got Shaq. He got Dwyane Wade. He came and got Shaquille O'Neal. Then they brung a whole bunch of other players to help win.

Starting point is 00:17:54 You can't pretend you that guy. It's them. You're not bigger than them. You're pretending you are. They left. LeBron came. They won a championship. You can't pretend you're bigger than LeBron. LeBron came they won a championship You can't pretend you're bigger than LeBron LeBron leave this shit crashes Jimmy Butler comes He gets you to the championship if he tells you bring me one more star motherfucker bring up one more star

Starting point is 00:18:17 Because if he can get you to the gym with this bring me one more start I got you so for you to pretend that you are the heat culture and you can do this, you're lying. Because when he leaves, motherfucker, nobody's coming there. I got these. Nobody's coming to. You got South Beach in your favor. Yes. And you treat South Beach like it's a fucking prison.

Starting point is 00:18:41 That's the real thing. How you supposed to treat it? Like South Beach. And what beats you when we go to South it? Like South Beach! And what beats you when we go to South Beach? No, that beats them! What beats every team when you go to South Beach when you fly in? South Beach! That is visitors! That's why it's prisoners!

Starting point is 00:18:58 We live here! We don't want our players falling victim! We don't want our players falling victim to We don't want our players falling victim. So what you going to fall victim to? That shit overrated anyway. Miami overrated anyway. It ain't even about the Miami City. It ain't about the city.

Starting point is 00:19:14 You know, you ain't about to do South Beach every day. It ain't about the city. It's about accountability. That's my people. You got to show up and do your job. If you live there, you don't have to do it as much as you do. I don't think... I think Pat likes to keep it, like, team, right?

Starting point is 00:19:29 So it's not, oh, you... Like, Pat really thinks he's bigger than the player. I just think Pat doesn't want nobody to think they're bigger than the franchise. Like Miami Heat. But the franchise is. The franchise player is the franchise. It's between those guys.

Starting point is 00:19:43 Why is Tyler Hero and Bam Alibado doing? Bam Alibado. Alibado. Alibado. That's his name, man. Alibado. You know the rules. That's his name, man.

Starting point is 00:19:52 Why are they doing interviews? Him too. After the Jimmy Butler comment. And they saying, yeah, man, it's unfortunate he unhappy. We just going to have to figure out what to do. Yeah. We just gonna have to, you know, figure out, you know, what to do. Yeah, the only real one is Kevin Love. He wrote saying the same type, you know, giving the energy like, man, this nigga, man, he gonna quit on this, man, I don't know what he on.

Starting point is 00:20:16 And then they saying detriment to the team, which means there was a conflict. No. And then at some point, my question is why the OGs ain't spoke on this Jimmy Butler comment? Because maybe it's not. Because maybe it's not Jimmy Butler. So who you got to pick a side? Who is it?

Starting point is 00:20:34 There's one main OG. For me, I think it's the OGs. Like, read that comment. All of them. What? All of them. See, this is the part of the heat comment. You know what's going on.

Starting point is 00:20:44 Who is it? Read this comment. They don't know who it is. We have suspended Jimmy Butler for seven games for multiple instances of conduct detrimental to the team over the course of this season and particularly the last several weeks. Through his actions and statements, he has shown he no longer wants to be part of this team. Now, that's illegal. Because he said, we're not going to be able to fix this. You say, okay, fuck it. If we can't fix it, we're going to suspend you. You can't we're not gonna be able to fix this You say okay fuck if we can't fix it. We're gonna suspend you can't do that

Starting point is 00:21:09 You can't do this. It's not like he said I'm not playing here. He said we are Yes, they are Publicly we are this can't be fit again. Did you read it again? You want to read the whole statement again? Please. All right, let me hold on. Please. We have suspended Jimmy Butler for seven games for multiple instances of conduct detrimental to the team over the course of this season, and particularly the last several weeks.

Starting point is 00:21:34 Hold on, let him finish. He has shown he no longer wants to be part of this team. After that last statement. Okay, are you ready? Can I go? Okay. We have suspended Jimmy Butler for seven games for multiple instances Multiple no. Yeah. Yeah

Starting point is 00:21:51 It's more than Detrimental to the team over the course of the season. Yeah, uh-huh wink-wink. Okay Move the goalposts for no, I'm telling you I can weak, weak. Come on over here and move it. No, I'm telling you, I can. Because I'm ready. I know the statement. This is what it's saying. No, I know what it's saying. Don't make the words for it.

Starting point is 00:22:10 He has shown. Don't change the words. No. Don't change the words. He has shown he is no longer. Don't change the words. The words are the words. The words are the words.

Starting point is 00:22:19 It doesn't say shown. He is shown he no longer wants to be a part of the team. What was before that? I know what's before that. Say before that. When did he get suspended? They should have been suspended. Yeah, if he after he said what he said to throw the team laundry out to the public.

Starting point is 00:22:37 No, he said there's no fixing this. With that right there, that said whatever y'all talking about, I ain't. There's a problem. Yes. So he didn't know there was a problem, Jimmy. No, he problem. Yes, so he didn't know there was a problem, Jimmy. No, he knew. No, the public didn't know there was a problem. I know.

Starting point is 00:22:49 Duh. So Jimmy was the one who outed it. That's what I'm saying. So whose fault is it? It's Jimmy's fault, right? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Oh, that's what you mean.

Starting point is 00:22:59 To your point. You don't be listening. I'm saying... That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but we're not... Does Pat Riley seem like the type of human being that's going to allow multiple... He just want to be... No. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but we're not. Does Pat Riley seem like the type of human being that's going to allow multiple? He just want to be.

Starting point is 00:23:08 No, that's what I'm saying. He want to win so bad. Jimmy do this all the time, though. He want to win so bad. Habitual life is fucking missing. I'm saying the same thing. That's what I'm saying. Pat Riley did it first.

Starting point is 00:23:18 But I. When he publicly, when he publicly said, then shut up. That started it right there. So we should find Pat Riley. That did. But why did he say, why did he say. Pat Riley has got to get fined. Why did he say he was unhappy right there. So we should find that did but why did he say why did he say? He's getting far I gotta get far Jimmy Leeman no no no he's getting back is the fire Doritos and a motherfucker

Starting point is 00:23:41 That's what he came back that's gonna be defined it's gonna be eight years and he gonna say you know what I'm gonna step on down I guarantee you step on down in the next 24 months. Let me ask you a question Hell yeah, there's Jimmy Butler go to another team and play his ass off and play like we never seen him play before Listen I know what you're getting at don't don't get me don't with you don't go are you with me? Are you never with me the over with the disappointment. I'm with you. Are you with me? I'm with you. You're never with me. You're never with me. The disappointment in Jimmy Butler game right now is you're not playing. You're not playing the basketball you need to be playing to even be talking like this. We know who you are.

Starting point is 00:24:18 You're in the contract. You're unhappy. Do that shit on the court. I'd rather you ball hog. I'd rather you go out there and give me 40 and 35 and this and this and this shit you did what we heard about Jeff Teague said and the Wolves when you took that team over and beat the starters that's what you should be doing on the court we wouldn't even be having a discussion. But if that gonna get him traded. I don't give a fuck. You averaging 17

Starting point is 00:24:42 will get you traded? When you want to get traded you man Let's see. That's the bullshit your contracts up to average is 70 Okay, you showcase you showcase team that you can play my god is track but he does have a 52 million dollar player option I'm for context. Yeah, Sambo far as want to get out of places. He gonna let you know He's done it a few times. He's done it a few times he's done it a few times he's gonna go publicly with it so what's any different so he's been he's played 85 games right after the practice he went right home he's been right on my face he said i just kicked their ass in practice it sounds like some work to me it sounds like some work to me. Right, what do we know? That sounds like some work to me. You're going to be happy every week. You went right on to your seat. I just hit you.

Starting point is 00:25:26 It ain't no well put in no foot. You were. You're some work. You know, I'm happy, man. Yeah, you're never going to get that ring until you sign up and settle down with that one team. So, Gil, to your point, Butler being fined over $330,000 for each of the seven games he'll miss for a total of 2.4 million. The NBA Players Association already called it excessive and inappropriate. You feel like he's going to win his appeal and get a break?

Starting point is 00:25:50 Yes, absolutely. He has to spend the guy for saying that we're not going to get along. This is some bullshit. I don't have no joy out here. But I'm going to just say it like this. For Heat, listen, you already have a reputation. Go ahead. You already have a reputation of the type of practices you guys do,

Starting point is 00:26:05 how you guys overwork the players. So the only time players come there is when you're in championship mode and they feel they can win a championship. Like, I'm willing to deal with this bullshit for, you know, a couple six months. But you think a big free agent like Jimmy Lee, you think big free agents are going to come there knowing what they're going to be put through? Nah, they're going to wait to it's almost a championship team

Starting point is 00:26:26 Ready and then they'll come right so you're gonna be losing for a couple years So I'll bring you my next point So if the heat can't move Jimmy buckets by the deadline he decides to walk after the season He would be in great position financially to bring another star to South Beach. That's if he declined his 52 Wait, they would have What did you just say if they don't get the trade done. Uh-huh. He leave.

Starting point is 00:26:47 There's also reports that if they don't get the trade done, they expect him to still, they're not going to tell him to go to the crib. They expect him to still play out the season. But you just suspended him, though. You don't know why. You just took two points more. You don't know why.

Starting point is 00:26:59 But you would have been better off. You don't know why. You don't know why he got suspended. You would have been better off. We're going to go sit home. We're not going to suspend you. We're not going to take you until we work something out. I took two.

Starting point is 00:27:10 That would have been the better route. You took two. You just took two. I want my whole 50. I want 52 now. $2.4 million. I'm going to tell you what's going to happen next game. Ah!

Starting point is 00:27:22 Fuck. Ah! Damn. My back. Becky out of me. My back is broke. You know you can't give out the secret.

Starting point is 00:27:31 Don't touch the game. You can't give out the secret. My neck and my back. You can't do it. You got to give out the secret, right? Oh, you find these on

Starting point is 00:27:38 some bullshit, 2.4 million. I'm going to get it back. My back hurt on a twist of my back. I'm seven get it back Eight games so I can make more we know how this work

Starting point is 00:27:54 But those are the game that lets you know, you gotta trade them. Yeah There's no point now you once you once you do some do shit and find them the relationship is officially over I'm opting in for the 52. Give me my money So I want that from him. So Gil, you already... I don't want that 52 from nobody. I want that 52 from him. 52 from you. I want him to have to fucking pay me.

Starting point is 00:28:14 Right? I want that shit to come out of there. I ain't taking a fucking penny less. So Gil, you already answered the question, but a question for the rest of the couch. If you were a star player in the league right now, would you want to play for the Heat, heat seeing the situation how it's breaking out? Nothing I'll give did but I'm asking

Starting point is 00:28:31 Yes, Chad you would want to absolutely think so It's like you said if they in championship mode challenging yes Even if they're not in no, no, no, no Star play at what age? Even if they're not in championship. No, no, no, no. They're not in championship. Nobody putting up with that shit. Star player? Star player? At what age? Yeah, what age is a star player at? Yeah, 35 doing all that shit?

Starting point is 00:28:50 25, 26. So somebody's... 23 to 40. Doing all the shit you do in the summer? Somebody's 27 years old right now. What are we talking about, man? A 27-year-old right now. 27, 30-year-old right now.

Starting point is 00:29:00 Superstar. Doing all them mal, man. Work hard. Not at 30. Work hard is easy. Everything is easy when you work hard mouth, man. Work hard. Not at 36. Work hard, it's easy. Everything is easy when you work hard. You used to work hard, everything is easy.

Starting point is 00:29:09 It's about over, though. Not hard, and you sign up all for all the shit that we know of. Work hard at 35, 36. Yeah, right? No. No. They're going to have the already done trick,

Starting point is 00:29:20 then they can come there. From 23 to about 33, I would say. But they do, like, their players that leave, like, the players that, like, play there when they need jobs, they do give them jobs. So that's one thing that Pat Riley do. He do, like, help out his ex-players. You end up kicking yourself and things.

Starting point is 00:29:36 So I went down there when I came back from China before I went to Clippers. Had an opportunity to go there. And everything that we speak of, I was like, yeah. Yeah, I'm like... Yeah, I was 35 at the time, whatever. Yeah, I'm like, listen, Jack... I can't do all this.

Starting point is 00:29:53 They got to get it through the draft. 34, 30, yeah. I mean... So when I came with y'all, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, once they were... Like, they got the Wayne way through the draft. That's what started, like, when you're talking about the championships he won,

Starting point is 00:30:08 it's because a draft pick. That draft pick was so good. They're like, okay, I made a trade for Lamar, then traded Lamar for, or I got Lamar on free agency, then traded him for Shaquille O'Neal, won a championship. I still got Wade. Wade attracted LeBron James and what's his name? That's how that worked.

Starting point is 00:30:25 Those are his two championships outside of the one that was given to him by the Lakers. So, we got the trade deadline coming up early. I want to take a shot, though. Go ahead. Let's do it. Good. It's your birthday. Birthday.

Starting point is 00:30:34 Birthday. Birthday 2021. 2025. And while we're taking a shot, why don't you take a shot? Download the Underdog app. Use promo code GILL and get a chance to get $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pickle. But, so, let's say, you know, we got trade deadline early February. I was about to say, I'm glad you made a face.

Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah. Because I often have something to say. Everybody made a face. I was going to say, you know, alcoholics don't do normally. They just die. I'm glad you frowned because I was, hey. I'm not doing that at 25, motherfucker. Yes, you are. Hey, but you frowned. I'm not doing that at 25, motherfucker. Yes, you are. Hey, but you frowned.

Starting point is 00:31:08 I'm saying, but you frowned and shit, so I was like that. He ain't going to make no face out of drinking that. Okay. You know what? I got to probably see you on Sunday. I got to see you on the weekend sometime, so I ain't going to look at your ass. You're going to see me every Sunday. Hey, you're going to see me every ain't gonna see me. Hey, you gonna see me as Sunday

Starting point is 00:31:27 At church nice nice and playing the same league legal boys play. Oh All right, so we asked to chat y'all playing against Junior We go on the Team is older than that one. You're above his. Oh, okay So you playing against his older son a see motherfucker. He playing with me not 2025 no no no no he said the youngest one is under right no nice nice is under he's fine He said he's his there five. That's just sick cash. That's sick So I was asking is he played against the big junior in the six?

Starting point is 00:32:03 What is Nick is? Come Jr. in the sixth. What? Nick is 12. Nick is, come on. He's 12 again? How many times are we going to be 12? How many? Him and Elijah was the same age, bro. Didn't we have the motherfuckers in 2007 together? No.

Starting point is 00:32:19 When did you have Nick Jr., though? He said 12 again. Yeah, like this. Like, 12 again out of? Like, this... 12 again on the 7th? Satchel Paige. I got to your team in 2007. Oh. Him and Alani.

Starting point is 00:32:34 Yes. 2000. Oh, okay. Like, God. Janet, my God. They got the same birthday. That's why he said that. Oh, okay, okay.

Starting point is 00:32:41 He 12 again. Hey. My bad. My bad, bro. My's 12 again. Hey. My bad, my bad, bro. My bad, bro. Damn. So we asked the chat, should an NBA superstar want to play for the Heat? 57% said no. But let's say that the Heat can get a trade done.

Starting point is 00:32:57 You got the trade deadline coming up early February. Jimmy has said that the Suns would be one of his preferred trade destinations. There is some unrest going on in Phoenix right now with the reports that Bradley Bill and Nurk are going to get benched following the Suns' struggles. Who would be a star that would pair well with Bam Adebayo on the Heat? Man, who's available now? I don't even know. Bradley Bill.

Starting point is 00:33:21 I mean, I was... Bradley Bill, straight up. Through the lob. Straight up. Move around, both of them. Switch it up, try it out. I mean, of course it's gonna help out. It's gonna help out the Suns. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:34 Switch us back. Yeah. I think it'd be better for both of them. Let's do that right now. I mean, it'd be better for both, but the Suns obviously enhances them for... You gotta throw in Nurkic, too. Damn. Damn. I mean, shit. No got to throw in Nerkis, too. Damn. Damn.

Starting point is 00:33:46 I mean, shit. No. I would. I'd do it. Nerk bill for Jimmy Butler. I would do it. Straight up. Bill money, but Bill money. But I would do it.

Starting point is 00:33:54 But they don't have... They need a five. They need a five. So Bam can play the full. Oh, Bam? Yes. No, leave Bam where he at. Yes.

Starting point is 00:34:03 Jimmy Butler. Bam is not a five. Rally bill, Nerkis. Oh, yes, Jimmy Butler BAM is not a five rally bill There's boy all for this same problem. The Dave's got no They need to throw something else in there Throw the backup center in there. Nah Yeah Things like 68 million. Oh hot kids in there. Nah. Hell no. I think it's like 68 million between.

Starting point is 00:34:25 Throw Jaquez in there. Ooh. Bradley Beal making a chance for him. They're not giving up that. That'll help. That'll help. The pride of Camarillo. That's what a champion.

Starting point is 00:34:33 Terry Rozier. That motherfucker. Terry Rozier. Now, you were talking. Now you talking. They need big. They can use Rozier. Give me Terry and a big.

Starting point is 00:34:40 They need Rozier and a big. For Nurk and Beal straight up. They don't know what I'm talking about. Phoenix. I know Phoenix and Beal straight up. They need a big. They need a big. For Nurk and Bill straight up. I'm talking about Phoenix. I know Phoenix and Bill straight up. They need a big. They don't need none of that.

Starting point is 00:34:49 Listen, they need a new energy. It'll be a three-team trade. Both sides need new energy. That's facts. Okay. For sure. So you like Bill going to heat? That was one of the spots

Starting point is 00:34:58 he wanted to go to before. It ain't about me liking it. He been needing to move in the fucking round. Yeah. It don't matter where he go. You have said that he needs to move the eff around? We could have been doing a whole lot more with this.

Starting point is 00:35:10 He don't even be shooting with KD and Bookman. He don't even be like... Talking about a no-trade clause. Mm-hmm. Shot. Mr. B, you hung up on B having a no-trade clause. Ha! Ha!

Starting point is 00:35:23 They thought... For them shot girls falling out here. Uh-uh. They thought 25... I'm on We ain't trying to see nothing scriptures Scriptures from the King James Bible. We just want our liquor. I want to see everything. So while the shots are on the way. I'm not going to hold you. I'm trying to told you. You got to show me. Whoa. I got to go to the strip club with you. I'm trying to tell you. Don't tell her. Don't tell her.

Starting point is 00:36:08 I'm going to pickleball. And technically, you'd be right. It is a pickleball. I just ordered two pickleball joints, too. So yeah, we're going to be on one of those trips. That'll be a good trip. Gil's Arena. Gil will bring his paddle.

Starting point is 00:36:22 So we ain't got to go nowhere. The whole arena. You got the point. I've been to I bet the text you I told you I had You know what? You need a black book He's in there brother. Oh, yeah, they work for a dollar They're way from me. Yeah, I'm toxic He did he did it.

Starting point is 00:36:46 He did it. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. December 30th was a special day for a few current and former Hoopers. Kenya, as we mentioned, you celebrated your birthday, along with Lakers superstar LeBron James, who turned 40 years old. LeBron is now the only player in the league to play in his teens, 20s, 30s, and 40s. And despite being a senior citizen by NBA standards standards is showing no signs of slowing down. Since

Starting point is 00:37:08 Christmas, LeBron has averaged 29 points, 8 assists, 5 rebounds on 57-56, 85 shooting splits. Bron also recently broke MJ's 30-point game record, joins Jordan as the only players with back-to-back 30-point games in their 40s. So back on his 40th birthday, Dan Wilkie of the LA Times asked Bron about his future in the league and when he'll actually retire. Bron had this to say. It won't be because I can't play this game at a high level. It won't be because of that.

Starting point is 00:37:35 Because, to be honest, if I really wanted to, I could probably play this game at a high level. Probably about another... Weird that I might say this, but I'd probably another five to seven years if I wanted to. But I'm not gonna do that. Brown said, I could play this game another five to seven years if I wanted to.

Starting point is 00:37:53 I'm not gonna do that. That five to seven year window would be enough time for his youngest son, Bryce, to also... Mother would be my age. Damn. Uh-oh, more shots. It shot a clock. He would be my... It's nervous.

Starting point is 00:38:11 Don't be nervous. Don't be scared, Gil. Don't be scared. Uh-oh. It's all good. It's 2025. We can get another. She would have been mad at me.

Starting point is 00:38:22 What's up? Shooter failed. She would have been mad at me I'll shoot a fair So I was like look looking at Bron how impressive as the bronze longevity been and how much longer do you really think he'll stick? around the league and play I Mean it's an you know, just like I mean we seen MJ when he was with the Wizards and he put up 20 I have me coming on that wasn. That was impressive, right? I mean, no matter what anybody says, if you watched MJ or played against him when he was 20,

Starting point is 00:38:51 it was impressive that a guy who retired came back right before the season started and actually was balling, right? Showing flashes of still greatness. So, you know, anybody who can... George? At 40? Yeah, he was 20. And played all 82 games.

Starting point is 00:39:09 I'm not rolling with that. Dog, listen. He was putting people in that mix. Withers zone! You got a Wizards... That's a badass Jordan. He was a player. Who?

Starting point is 00:39:18 Oh, shit me? What you talking about? You shitting me? Hey, hey, hey. We was there. There he is. He was moving different. Yo, hey, go look at some highlights he gave us. He was he gave was he caught my young ass in that post

Starting point is 00:39:30 That footwork working back with his his back to you His back is a problem But you know back on the other end 82 games. He's not looking like LeBron playing No, he don't Look like this is the boy. We just don't he don't look like LeBron, but I'm just talking about it was impressive They know that was that not not off cigars and liquor. Okay, let me try it. Let's try this again The best 40 year old that played was LeBron.

Starting point is 00:40:06 The second best 40-year-old was Michael Jordan. Kevin Willis, motherfucker. What? With the baby arm. Yeah. With the baby arm. He have his one point. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah, he looks better. Yeah, he got his one point. He look better. He don't look worse. Point. With the three words. He ready to go. Kevin Willis.

Starting point is 00:40:23 No, we're not going to do that. Kevin Willis. I'm not rolling with Pat Jordan. Dirk Nowitzki. Dirk Nowitzki. Oh Kevin will they not gonna do that? He was not fat he wasn't fat either I Play You He was a six-year senior Wasn't looking at it to see Jordan, but he wasn't nowhere near. Nick, you do realize I played against the person that we're talking about, right?

Starting point is 00:40:51 Me too. You do know I have to guard him, right? And you should be ashamed of yourself. How? You should be ashamed of yourself. That means you can't guard nobody in there. Who? You saw me play defense before.

Starting point is 00:41:04 You seen me guard people. It's the wizard. It don't matter. You saw me guard. I was so fast, too. 23. Watch this. Hey, Nick, you saw me.

Starting point is 00:41:13 I wouldn't let somebody catch the ball in practice. So you, listen. But, right? Wouldn't let him touch it. You took it easy on him. Wouldn't let him touch it. Took it easy on him. No, I did not take it easy.

Starting point is 00:41:21 All y'all said y'all took it easy on him. What are we talking about? I gave him 41. So I wasn't taking it easy. The very first time we played Jordan in Jersey We hand him playing the second half we had 74 at half time. That's what it's gonna be so therefore That's what it should have been his old ass With Connie Brown He was a Christian Laker. Christian Laker, that's what I'm saying. No, yeah, James Jackson. Ron, Ron, Ron. Rip Hamilton.

Starting point is 00:41:46 Rip Hamilton and all of them. No, them. So you can't go with that team. Tyrone Lue. Tyrone Lue was on that team. Wasn't Mike smoking and drinking the whole time? Yes. Throwing that team right now.

Starting point is 00:41:54 And what I'm saying is, even more impressive. Come on, let's be real. Let's be real. No, but what I'm saying is, it was a 40-year-old doing that. It was impressive. That's what we're saying. But you can shoot the many shots. But it's.

Starting point is 00:42:04 Would you get 20 and a half? What I'm saying is, it was impressive. You can get 20 and a saying the mini size, but it's you would you get 20? cigars and fucking Did you see what did you see what dirt the whiskey look like that? Do you see what cagey look like did you see what Shaq look like so when Jordan was 40 it looked impressive like then This is this is cool. I see Yeah, but yeah, it was good. Yeah, okay LeBron James at 40 This looks good like there's a pecking order it goes LeBron. It goes Michael Jordan. It probably goes up third will be Wait this game is Another five years before there was like before we were the winner MVP at what 36 37

Starting point is 00:42:44 Hold on He can play to the car Malone average 13 Got the same amount of shots Jordan on that team 13 nine rebound That's the fact that that's because he went to the Lakers So if he would have was Shaq and cuz he averaged 20 the year before so he averaged 20 at 39 Yeah, I'm saying so he was doing the same same thing so that shit is impressive compared to the field. Compared to the field, like when you're thinking about all of history, LeBron, MJ, Karl Malone, um, Jamal Crawford.

Starting point is 00:43:19 That's your top five. It's not a meaningful game. Are we campaigning right now? Are we campaigning? It's not a meaningful game. Are we campaigning for LeBron? No, we're just saying it's impressive. We're just saying it's impressive. It's only impressive when we talk about old niggas that play basketball. It's not meaningful basketball, though.

Starting point is 00:43:35 It's not really impressive. It is. LeBron playing meaningful basketball. A 40-year-old out there running for the World Series. They were trying to make the battle. Kareem won a championship. No, he didn't make it. 40-year-old averaging. He wasn't all-star as a 40-year-old.

Starting point is 00:43:48 Voted. What round average is he right now at 40? Unvoted. He was all-star. 29. Next. Man. And what place was the Lakers in? Fourth. Fifth.

Starting point is 00:43:57 What place was the Wizards in? What happened? Fighting for it. No, they wasn't. Swag, we got to go back to something you said, though. Kevin Willis more impressive than him. Kevin Willis averaged 4.2 points per game. But he can't win with J.J. Reddick. He can't win with J.J. Reddick. J.J. Reddick still got that ugly girlfriend. Damn. Oh, well, Brandon, since you mentioned that. I thought you were talking about it. We completely disregarded the LeBron F40 combo and shifted as we tend to do on this program. No, no, they don't like LeBron, that's why. No, I like it. I didn't mean to get visibly upset.

Starting point is 00:44:27 No, I like it. I like the LeBron's name. At 40 years old. We could be talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers. But we can't compare LeBron and 40. We could, but nobody would watch and then we wouldn't have a show. Yeah, we would. Okay, but why are we comparing a 40-year-old to go win a championship?

Starting point is 00:44:40 They didn't do that before. I originally said that. Why is the 40-year-old playing? Same reason another 40-year-old is playing. Because I can still go out here and hope. Because I love the game. Yeah. What?

Starting point is 00:44:50 At 40 years old now, it's like what? Remember my original statement like a few months ago? Like last year. That's a spot for a 20-year-old. Tell him to beat it. Then beat him for his position. He's averaging 29 at 40. 24.

Starting point is 00:45:03 But that's what I'm saying. I was like, if nobody gave Michael Jordan if they didn't expect anything from MJ, they just were so happy to see a 40-year-old go out there, average 20.

Starting point is 00:45:14 Why is they putting so much effort on trying to tear LeBron down for just playing at 40? Like, why are we expecting him to be 20? Like, we're pretending that he's 20.

Starting point is 00:45:23 Like, we're pretending that he's 22, 23. He's expecting to win the championship. He's 40. He's older than some of the guys. So is this an excuse? He's older than the goddamn. He's older than Sham.

Starting point is 00:45:36 So is this an excuse for losing? I'm pretty sure, right? Is this an excuse for losing? He came. He came. Because you're 40. He's older than half the people who tell him. It's cool to go out there and lose.

Starting point is 00:45:44 That's your winning championship. It's cool to go out there and lose because you're 40. Who are they losing? Lose. That's your 40 because you're 40. He's older than half the people who tell him that. It's cool to go out there and lose. Finish your winning championship. It's cool to go out there and lose because you're 40. Who they lose? Lose? That's your excuse. We're 40. We're FFC. We just out here trying to hoop.

Starting point is 00:45:52 No, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, you know why we're not trying to win? Because I'm 40. No, what I'm saying, it's not about a win. I'm 40. Nobody said that. You're expecting me to win a championship at 40? Yes.

Starting point is 00:46:06 As the main character? We expect you to win every year you go out there and put your uniform on. Because you the king, you the goat, right? So what happened to MJ? There ain't a year. There ain't a year we don't expect you to go out there and win it all. Then what happened to MJ? What happened the last five years?

Starting point is 00:46:21 What happened to MJ? MJ, what happened the last five years? No, no, no, no, no, no. MJ ain't played in 30 years. When MJ was with the Wizards, they were projected preseason to be third in the Eastern Conference

Starting point is 00:46:34 after they got Jerry Stackhouse and all that. Third! They didn't make it. Nobody said nothing. It was cool. MJ had his 20th. It was cool breezy. There was no tearing down his name. Why now? Let the old people play.

Starting point is 00:46:51 Because what happens is when it's done, it's done. Do people know? When it's over, it's over. I can tell you right now. And then you're a losing team. Who? The Washington Wizards were a losing team. The Los Angeles Lakers are a winning franchise.

Starting point is 00:47:08 I didn't expect winning. You see how he worded that? I didn't expect winning. A losing team versus a winning franchise. The Lakers actually matters more than Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards at 40. It don't matter. When Michael Jordan's playing for the Wizards at 40, it don't matter. Michael Jordan's playing for the Wizards at 40. It don't matter because we're not expecting you to win at all.

Starting point is 00:47:28 LeBron James at 40, you played for the Los Angeles Lakers. Guess what we fucking expect every year? You came here when my man was still alive and you say, hey, you sure you ready for this challenge? You're going to be expected to win

Starting point is 00:47:43 every year. So when you don't, how are we looking at you? So how was y'all looking at Kobe? So how was you looking at delivering? So we're not delivering. Deliver. What was the same thing as you then? Deliver.

Starting point is 00:48:02 2020 NBA championship was the same thing. Deliver. Okay, so how about 2000? I don't want to watch this movie no more. Okay, how about 2013, 14? Don't watch this fucking movie no more. 2013, 14, 15, 16, 17. Where was that spirit then? Before LeBron James got there, where was the spirit of the Lakers in 2013, 14, 15-16-17. Where was this spirit?

Starting point is 00:48:28 It was Swaggy's world. Huh? It was Swaggy's world. No, it was Swaggy's world, but Kobe was there, nobody cared. That's what I'm saying, what happened? Nothing happened, no one cared. They gave him grace because it was Kobe fucking Bryan. No, and he didn't have another superstar. Of course, but what I'm saying

Starting point is 00:48:46 We can see a championship team like we pretend to be stupid we pretend that it's Like joy to tell you this if he decides not to play this year if he retires at the end of this year There's gonna be a lot of motherfuckers who lose a lot of money because there's no more LeBron James to talk bad about, and you won't be in the algorithm. You better hope he plays for the next five to seven so you can feed your kids because when he's gone, the check is gone. That's a fact. Because y'all have another enemy right now.

Starting point is 00:49:20 There's no another bad guy. That's a fact. That's a fact. There's no bad guy. Technically, there is another LeBron James in the NBA. No. Right now We can pick whoever weum and be the bad guy. We can pick whoever we want to be the bad guy. No, you don't got one right now. He got to be in play. Right now, LeBron, you get to say, I don't like LeBron James getting a million views.

Starting point is 00:49:53 Money. He retires right now. What you going to say? I don't like Wimby. But at the same time. I don't like Tatum. Like, that'll hit right now. You got to create a new, I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him.

Starting point is 00:50:05 I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him.

Starting point is 00:50:13 I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him.

Starting point is 00:50:21 I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I don't hate him if I don't like the guy you like I'm the villain you don't like the guy because everybody like that guy but why am I the villain but why am I the villain because I don't like what you like but no because you like what we like but now that everybody like you don't like it but regardless if I stop liking it you don't like that I stop you don't like that I don't like it anymore you like but we all like it but we all like it! But we all like it!

Starting point is 00:50:45 But what, what, what, wait, wait, wait, wait! Why y'all sound like kids? You got to tell me why you don't like it no more. Because we still like it! Oh, shit, oh, oh. We all still like it! Hey, hold on. Hey, Rashad!

Starting point is 00:50:56 Breaking news. Why don't you like it? Breaking news. LeBron James right now just said he is towing McCann's car out front. So he better go out there and get it just say he takes his homeboy said do your job Clean it up, Gilbert. You got to move your car. Clean it up, Gilbert. Rashad, you got to move your car.

Starting point is 00:51:25 They own it. They own it. Oh, they own it? We have to take care of it. That's a wink. That's a wink. Go ahead and handle that, baby. I'm about to pay for this.

Starting point is 00:51:33 You know they out there. We know they out there. Rashad, I thought you did a good job parking the car. We know they out there. I thought you did a good job parking the car. We know they watching. We know they looking, man. Stop provoking me.

Starting point is 00:51:41 I don't be on this shit. Y'all want to go here, let's go here. Cool. But leave me the fuck alone with it., y'all provoking me. I don't be on this shit. Y'all want to go here, let's go here. Cool. But leave me the fuck alone with it. Y'all keep provoking me. Yeah, we provoking.

Starting point is 00:51:51 It is the first episode back in 2035. Soon as we say LeBron, we provoked him. Y'all provoking me. Y'all. I don't like it. Y'all sound like little kids. I don't like it no more. LeBron. But I'm just saying, LeBron got a whole team traded.

Starting point is 00:52:09 Did Jordan do that? Huh? So LeBron won a win. Kobe did too. I like LeBron. But last 40, did Jordan come to the West and say, man, trade all these niggas who's getting me traded? Yeah!

Starting point is 00:52:19 Rip Hamilton, everybody. Hold on. So he got everybody out of there. So, so, Ken, you asked Shod, did you used to be a LeBron fan? No, I didn't. Like, in that basketball. Do you think he was good at the game of basketball? No.

Starting point is 00:52:29 We got him a courtside. Wait, wait, hold on. Wait, wait. No. No, we're not going to do that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that, Shot.

Starting point is 00:52:36 You know these people got Google, right? Google what? They got Google, dog. We saw you courtside. We saw you courtside. We know. Listen. What does that have to do with enjoying a basketball game? No, no, no.led, dog. We saw you courtside. We saw you courtside. We know. Listen. What does that have to do with enjoying a basketball game?

Starting point is 00:52:47 No, no, no. No, no. Y'all motherfuckers is so thirsty. No. It's 2025. I thought y'all got all the drinking out. I thought y'all was hydrated. Nah, 2024.

Starting point is 00:52:59 Listen, listen. In college, in college, UNC is Michael Jordan. It is? It is? They have to wear Jordan. There's one man. Somehow. There's one man that's going to go against the grain.

Starting point is 00:53:12 Somehow. And he put on Nike every year. I mean, every time. We want to make it about me. So then I'm going to make it about me. Wait, what? So when you want it to be about me, I'm going to make it about me. But he couldn't, he didn't supposed to wear LeBron because he's supposed to wear my

Starting point is 00:53:29 skorty shoes. And he only wore LeBron James. Used to kick it with Bron, play blu-ray the whole night. Okay. Shot! I got kicked out the club. You know, you get kicked out. I was Bobby Brown. I wouldn't. Was Brian stopped fucking with you? So is that where this anger comes from? Anger? I'm grateful. I'm grateful. They all motherfuckers is on one.

Starting point is 00:53:51 This is 2025. It is. Like I said, just because y'all love him don't mean I got to love him too. Just because you want to hug him don't mean I want to hug him too. I do not want to hug him. I'm cool over here. I'm cool. It's basketball to me.

Starting point is 00:54:04 2025, I'm not messing with LeBron this year. You mean talking bad about him? No, no, no, no. I don't ever talk bad about LeBron. So what's your problem? Just how he did, Drake. He got rid of Lil D-Lo. That's your, you should like him now.

Starting point is 00:54:17 He got rid of Lil D-Lo for you. That was for you, Nick. Wait, how he did? Wow, so you're taking Drake over Lil D-Lo. He just showed me qualities of, you know, like, you supposed to stay out of it you know. He got rid of Lil D-Lo. You had like Drake on your show. He got rid of Drake. But what I'm telling you. No Drake. Then they was doing Kendrick every song by Kendrick for most. Swaggy isn't Kendrick your cousin? I'm just saying I'm talking about if that was my homie, if that was my homie, I'd be mad. That's what I'm saying. I just see, like, weird qualities. LeBron can't be a fan of good music? Right. So what was it? Was the good quality getting rid of Lil D-Lo?

Starting point is 00:54:52 You don't have to post it. He got rid of Lil D-Lo. If me and you, if I'm your homie and you got beat for somebody else, but I'm cool when I'm not about to post this shit. And then you get rid of my enemy? I'm not about to post this shit. I'm just saying, I'm just like, yo. But you got rid of my enemy. I'm not about the post. Do you got? You got rid of my enemy. So whatever you just need I forgive you No, you good. Yeah, did you have D low on this year? Huh? Yeah, D low on this year. No, you little D low

Starting point is 00:55:15 You know, we did try wait, do you know little D low? You know, we sit this ass back to these we Coast. We sent him back to Berksville. LeBron did that! Wait, you had LeBron over the Drake's? I know he got what? He's a sucker, dude. He's a sucker. He's a sucker. I'm telling LeBron, bring Lil' D-Lo back. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Starting point is 00:55:37 Just got word. Just got word. Swag in your car is now being towed as well. If you want to go ahead and address that, handle that. He's supposed to stay down with his man. If he getting his ass whooped, stay down with him. Stay down with you? He got a little deal up.

Starting point is 00:55:49 Get his ass whooped with him. I told him to get a little deal up for you. But maybe he got a relationship with Kendrick. I never said. What I've seen is him with Drake all the time. And then when your man getting his ass whooped, you start hopping on the other person. Drake does have LeBron tattooed on his arm. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:56:04 That's all I'm saying. Hold on. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. He has what? He has a LeBron tattooed on his arm. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Hold on. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. He has what? He has a LeBron tattoo on his arm. I don't know if it's still there. That's what I'm saying. In light of the recent situation.

Starting point is 00:56:12 That's all I was saying. He got Steph Curry and Katy, right? I thought you said Nick. No. Oh. No. You know, I admit, I was even thinking that. You sick.

Starting point is 00:56:22 I thought that's what he said. I said Drake has LeBron tattooed on his arm. I didn't hear the Drake that. You sick. I thought that's what he said. I said Drake has LeBron tatted on. I didn't hear the Drake part. Yo, so Drake drives LeBron. I thought he said Nick. Man, what he do? And that new freestyle. The Fighting Irish freestyle.

Starting point is 00:56:34 What he say? I'm going at LeBron. If I'm Drake, I'm dropping everything. Shit. Didn't he get flagged off YouTube? Yup. You know. Higher power. Higher power flex their muscle. That was a get flagged off YouTube? Yup. You know.

Starting point is 00:56:45 Higher power. Higher power flex their muscle. That was the real song? But the damage done. Still available on the internet. He damned a dry snitch on LeBron. I'm ashamed to be your friend. He said, man, what I tell you to do?

Starting point is 00:56:53 Remember those little fucking barber shops? LeBron, what I tell you to do, Drake? Drake listen to the nigga and shit. No, you got to tell him the whole thing. You ain't saying I'm right. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LeBron what I tell you to do Drake Drake listen to the nigga shit No, you gotta tell him the whole thing you ain't saying all right He was on the shop he was like what I tell you though what I tell you you said I could never let you down I could never I get it from him He got rid of your enemy.

Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah. But the fact that he brung him. In the first place. Don't get rid of him because he ass now. That's the shit. You keep kicking niggas. I didn't tell you. I don't give a fuck what you did to me.

Starting point is 00:57:40 You get rid of my enemy, brother. I don't even see that side. I don't even see that side. I'm just talking about the jump and shift part, you know? Yeah. He ain't jump and shift. He just like music. Nah. Let's talk about sometimes music.

Starting point is 00:57:51 Sometimes music is just good. You don't think that's jump and shift? You can't. No, because he was already a fan of Kendrick's. All right, all right. But he's a fan of music. But... So what?

Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm supposed to not... You can listen to it. I'm not saying no, but you posted it. So if Drake came out and was like, nah, Kobe, for real, for real, this is the greatest of all time. That's fine. No cap. That's your opinion. And then LeBron unfollows him for that. He wouldn't do that. I don't think he would do it. I don't think LeBron cares. I'm a billionaire. What the fuck? I give a fuck.

Starting point is 00:58:14 I like music. So he just like being around people when they hot. Like, for the... Okay, I get it. I get it. That's what I'm talking about, LeBron. You know what? Uh-oh. As a GOAT, as a GOAT, you're supposed to move better.

Starting point is 00:58:29 That's what I'm talking about. Gil has the phone out. You're supposed to move better as a GOAT. Talk about it. That's all I'm saying. So I'm a GOAT, I'm supposed to move better. That shows like when he left Cleveland to Miami. Talk about it.

Starting point is 00:58:40 Rashad, do you agree with Waggy? As a GOAT, LeBron has to move better. Waggy is always on point. I'm just going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. So as a GOAT, LeBron has to move better. I'm just going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. So as it goes, LeBron needs to move better. Thank you. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:58:48 Somebody. So as a grown-ass man that pays his own fucking bills, he can't like who he want to like and listen to who he want to listen to? And expressing? If I'm your man, we friends. You were talking about me. We know how it goes.

Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah. You acting like he went on stage. You acting like he went on stage. You went up. Right? And you he went on stage. You went up. He was adjacent to the stage. We know how it go, man. You know you got to pick sides. It's war.

Starting point is 00:59:12 It's war right now. We warring. LeBron was at the pop out. LeBron was at the pop out. He's always played everybody's songs publicly. He played Drake's joint. And he was like, oh, yeah. That's when I was like, all right, keep that same energy. He plays everybody's joint. And he was like, oh, yeah. That's when I was like, all right, keep that same energy.

Starting point is 00:59:26 He plays everybody's music. Keep that same energy. Okay, yeah. And then at his 40th birthday party. I guarantee he rapping all of Kendrick's shit word for word, doing the beef shit, Drake's shit word for word. The same thing. Same shit, bro.

Starting point is 00:59:39 I didn't see him do one Drake song publicly. Same. But you seen them Drake bars that he spit, though. Now I'm about to buy me a D'Angelo Russell jersey. Uh-oh. A personal, right? A throwback Lakers or a Brooklyn Nets? Ohio State.

Starting point is 00:59:51 Ooh. You going to buy all of them? I should buy the first Laker one. You should. You little D-Loader, that's your name. The old little throwback. The first one. That's why I wore this today.

Starting point is 00:59:59 Not the new jersey. Not the new Laker. I want the old Laker. The one that we all team together for. Yeah, the one y'all wore. Y'all were teammates. Just make you think about it. I want the snitch jersey. I want the old Laker. The one that was team together. Yeah, the one y'all were. Y'all were teammates. I want the snitch jersey. I want the snitch jersey.

Starting point is 01:00:09 And I want him to sign it. I want a snitch on him. That's hard. That should have failed. I snitched on Nick. I snitched on Nick. So let's keep this moving back in the Lakers world. So back on December 19th after a Lakers win over the Kings,

Starting point is 01:00:24 J.J. Redick shared his thoughts on it. It's't no way, it's gotta be a hell of a thing. It is your birthday gift. It's gotta be a hell of a thing, right? If he was starting to sign, I snitched on Nick. Oh my. Hey Russell, I'm gonna see your jersey. Please sign it and do that. I snitched on-

Starting point is 01:00:37 D-Lo? Fuck Nick. I snitched on D-Lo. Lou D-Lo. Lou D-Lo. I snitched on Nick. I'm going to put that bitch up. Boom. Make his ass mad.

Starting point is 01:00:48 He got to see that. I'm going to put the bitch right there. You will replace the Kevin Durant jersey, Kurt? Kevin Durant. Uh, hold on. Lil D-Lo. Uh. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:00:58 It is a practice jersey, so. It is a practice jersey. I know, but that's a, but it is. It is Kevin Durant. It is Kevin Durant. Ooh. All right, I'll, ooh. But if any of you can move, it will. No it is Kevin Durant. Ooh, all right If any you can move I just heard him he just said it he said it what he says

Starting point is 01:01:26 No Carter No, Carter. If I had to. I'll move... Which one? No, I'll move Vince Carter. Number 22? No, Vince Carter. Steve Nash back there? That's the only white. They gotta feel comfortable. They can go.

Starting point is 01:01:42 You're right. He can go. Let can go. You're right. You're right. He can go. You're right. He can go. He can go. Let's keep this moving. Back on December 19th, after the Lakers went over the Kings, J.J. Redick shared his thoughts on the state of the league and the role that the national media has in coverage on the declining views. So saying the national media bashing the product constantly

Starting point is 01:02:03 has played a large role in the viewership issues. Although Reddick didn't name names in his critique, Charles Barkley took issue with the comments, offered this response during a recent episode of Inside the NBA. Said, JJ, you come for the king. You better not miss because I can get you, brother. Remember, I got your Lakers games. You can't hide them flaws they got. You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid of Darvin Hamm, who did a good job. But you come out there thinking you were going to change things with the same ugly girl you went on a date with, the Lakers stink.

Starting point is 01:02:32 Barkley went on to say, he came in there thinking, I can make this thing work. The hell you can. You put some makeup on that pig, the Lakers stink, man. Put some makeup on that pig. Come on, man. That's sick. So Redick was asked about Barkley going at him.

Starting point is 01:02:47 Let's take a moment. Let's take a moment. Put some makeup on that pig. Oh, shit. Very pointed comment. As previously mentioned, JJ didn't say anybody's name in particular. He just said, you know, you got all these national media members saying that the product stinks. People are going to believe him.

Starting point is 01:03:02 Stop watching the product. They may or may not be wrong. The product does fucking stink. Okay. That is a valid assessment. Somebody got to be blamed, too. So Reddick was asked about Barkley going at him, and he had this to say.

Starting point is 01:03:15 I didn't make it all the way through the clip. I got to be honest with you. My arresting heart rate is probably 64. I watched the clip. It was 64. Literally don't care. My resting heart rate is 64 beats per minute. That is very good heart rate.

Starting point is 01:03:35 Blood getting pumped through his body. That's swag. I don't know why. That shit should be pumping. Pumping. Pumping. Overtime. Cardiac arrest.

Starting point is 01:03:44 Let's talk about this stupid motherfucker. Head on the shrivel. Head on the shrivel. Sub in, Ronnie. Somebody come in here and do something for us. JJ ain't doing shit. Your heart rate should be pumping. Hope that shit pop. JJ, you're going to have to sub, JJ.

Starting point is 01:04:01 You're going to have to check in. Talking about Darvin Hammond and them like that. Get the fuck out of here you rest with shit But I got a roll with J. So Lakers We know we saw JJ in Vegas You niggas is cooked me Gil had a sidebar so Lakers are currently 20 and 15 fifth in the West Through 35 games last season under former coach Darvin ham. They had a record of 17 and 18 They got they got rid of DLO that's why they would be 21 and 14 if the refs all the time

Starting point is 01:04:42 See Charles see that's the problem with Charles. He don't actually watch basketball. About to go, buddy. They be telling him what to say in his ear. About to go, buddy. So he don't even realize when he said it, they was actually 4'5". So they're actually better than they were last year at the same time frame.

Starting point is 01:04:58 So what Charles is saying, ah, you should have waited. Why? 64 beats per minute. If it smells like shit, it's shit. Right. But it don't. I smell shit.

Starting point is 01:05:10 I smell shit. But it might look like chocolate. That got to be John. It looks like chocolate. Hey, Gil beakin' chocolate. Until he smell it. Hey, if you smell that shit everywhere you go. Hey, it's no shit.

Starting point is 01:05:18 If you smell that shit everywhere you go, god damn it is you. Hey, but look. He outside the window like, hey, mama. Hey, mama. I want that chocolate in there. Hey, baby, that ain't chocolate. That ain't chocolate. That ain't chocolate. That ain't chocolate. That ain't chocolate. That ain't chocolate. If you smell this shit everywhere you go, God damn it is you. But look, he outside the window like, hey, mama. Hey, mama. I want that chocolate in there.

Starting point is 01:05:28 Hey, baby, that ain't chocolate in there. That ain't no chocolate. But I want it. It's shit. Charles Barkley don't wipe his ass. Look at that shit. Can't wipe his ass. It's shit.

Starting point is 01:05:39 It look like chocolate, but it's shit. 20 and 15. You said Charles Barkley does not wipe his ass. You know that to be true. Is that a legend? 20 and 50. The little soap bars. Yeah, I saw that story before.

Starting point is 01:05:49 Oh, yeah. The little hotel soaps. They're better than they were last year at the same point. So what you're saying is he... On paper, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Stat man, stat man.

Starting point is 01:06:00 Paper is paper. But what does it smell like? What does it smell like? When you're watching. That's you. what does it smell like? What does it smell like? When you're watching. That's you. What does it look like when you're watching? What does it look like? Does it look like shit?

Starting point is 01:06:12 That's the problem. I don't get it. That's what they do today. That's what they do today. I don't get it. If the stats look better, they call you a stat man. Yeah. Look better?

Starting point is 01:06:21 It looked better. It looked like it was better last year at 17 and 18, but we was calling them all kind of names. But it looked worse. Hot Pops. Last year. But we're winning. But no, it looked worse this year.

Starting point is 01:06:31 No, it looked worse last year. It looked worse every year. But we've been winning more. But y'all was coming off the in-season championship. And it looked worse. What happened after that? It looked so bad after that, right? In the door, in the wheels.

Starting point is 01:06:42 The doors flew off. We've seen the strain that it has in the championship. Kind of. We're we all have seen the strain that I cared about That's how it looks right now did hang a bit of a lot of season. They won the NCAA championship We're not gonna celebrate no champagne. You should have just celebrated the champagne cuz just stink right now But I'm not I'm not going against the Bucks because they got a clean slate. So I just wanted to throw it out there. The Bucks look like boo-boo. Uh-oh.

Starting point is 01:07:10 Uh-oh. See, I got my dames on right now. It's dame time. Exquisite shirt. Shout out Dame Lil. What do you mean they look kind of green? What color do you think they are? What did he say?

Starting point is 01:07:22 I don't know. Did he just say they look kind of green? What is it, grandmama's? What is it? They're damn... Grandmama. They got David Robertson. Bucks made a mistake.

Starting point is 01:07:31 They should have never traded you Holiday. You can't be stupid all your life. What you trying to say? Your mic is on and the chat can hear you. What you trying to say? I whispered. Barely. Bad move?

Starting point is 01:07:39 Huh? Bad move? Yeah, for sure a bad move. But we got to deal with it. Got to deal with it. We got to deal with it. We got to deal with it. We got to deal with it.avie? I whispered. You said, I whispered. Barely. Bad move? Huh?

Starting point is 01:07:47 Bad move? Yeah, for sure a bad move. But we got to deal with it. Got to deal with it. We got to live with it. Bad move. Trayden's, uh... Dame should have went to Miami.

Starting point is 01:07:55 Yeah, Dame should have went to Miami. We should have kept Juality. What the fuck would y'all have done with Juality? Yeah, he would have been scoring more. Won a championship? No. Stop, man. You had to average five, seven, twelve points.

Starting point is 01:08:03 Yeah, the other day he got killed by Fee. Dame ain't y'all's problem. Yeah. Huh? Dame is not y'all's problem. Dame is 5, 7, 12 points. Dame ain't your problem. Yeah. Huh? Dame is not your problem. Dame is not your problem. What is your problem with, huh? What is the Bucks problem?

Starting point is 01:08:12 What's our problem? I mean. It's 20-25, clean slate. Something that happened in 20-24. We traded somebody who can play both ends. And then we got rid of P.J. Tucker. Y'all fired somebody who was a little bit better. So we get rid of our two adultsall Y'all fight everybody who will we get rid of our two adults?

Starting point is 01:08:27 For what? You think that's gonna win in a playoff you got a guard somebody One star we talked about a guard for did in the last three years. That's why I got rid of the playoff But we got it was it was we roll it before we got to keep rolling but I don't get that let's say I'm just gonna pretend yeah y'all gonna see you know what I'm saying you buck really like that what what other than they affects the team wait a minute hold hold hold on hold on y'all are pretty gonna sit up here what and pretend

Starting point is 01:09:05 at the beginning of the season the Bucks wasn't on fire. Are y'all really going to sit here like that? Y'all really? Who paying? Who the fuck paying you? Nasty Stark is paying. Does Doc River have the foundation? Because he must be paying.

Starting point is 01:09:19 Because y'all are going to pretend Adrian Griffin didn't have the record he had. That was last year. Yeah, and then not overnight Boom, that's a nose. I was last but yeah, they know Even but even before that we're not fuck the coach fuck the coach of shit. I'm not straightin drew holiday So what are you gonna have you had drew holiday Gary great and no no first of all Not even over here. Yes, Julia. What's the value? He wouldn't have been there ever to be okay?

Starting point is 01:09:54 We traded PJ Tucker Andrew holiday After the championship he was already gone. No they didn't want to that's what he's talking. He didn't want to go We should have never They dismantled the team He didn't want to go. That's what he's talking about. He didn't want to go. We should have never... That's what I'm saying. Our team could go. After the tag is still... They dismantled the team. No, no, no. They should have just stuck with Drew. That team won by luck.

Starting point is 01:10:11 I'm sticking it out. That team won by luck. I'm sticking it out with Drew. No, when Yachty got hurt in the playoffs, that was the same team that could have won it. They didn't bring that same team back. No, it was the P.J. Tucker.

Starting point is 01:10:22 When P.J. Tucker signed... So was it Miami? Is that when he left? Clippers? Right? No, he wanted to come back. They didn't want to give him the money He left because they didn't value what he was doing Always say this if you're such a good player a good point game with the Miami why you're not on the USA team Huh Huh? Because they want to. I didn't hear you. I didn't hear you. What did you just say? Stop back. Stop back. Stop back.

Starting point is 01:10:46 What did you just say? No, no. You know why? You know why? Because players around said they don't like playing with him. Top 75. That's all that matters. Top 75.

Starting point is 01:10:53 Where's Kyrie Irving? Huh? Top 75. Huh? Kyrie Irving. He ain't top 75. Kyrie Irving. Should be.

Starting point is 01:11:00 I mean, what would we know? If they would have had Kyrie Irving, y'all wouldn't have won the championship. Huh? Brooklyn. I don't know. I mean, that's the same thing If they would have had Kyrie, y'all wouldn't have won a championship. Huh? Brooklyn. I don't know. I mean, that's the same thing Jimmy said. Same thing, right?

Starting point is 01:11:09 That's what I'm saying. Thankfully, Pat Riley not here to tell anybody to keep their mouth shut. By a foot, and it was just KD. I mean, but we got to roll with it. We're going to keep rolling. We got to roll with it. Let's shift this back to the Lakers real quick. I ain't been damed for y'all problems.

Starting point is 01:11:20 Man, y'all look crazy. I'm just saying, I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. See, that's the part. That conversation you had with him. It don't work. That conversation you had with him. You got to like what they like or it's bad.

Starting point is 01:11:32 No, no, no, no, no. I'm just holding it. Have you noticed? I just said it don't fit. It doesn't fit. What I'm saying is crazy. The shit don't fit for walking. It don't fit.

Starting point is 01:11:38 I don't like it. It's bad. I don't like it. Shot. Shot. Every since he went down to... Say one shot Every since you went down Say one everyone's right there. We're winning when I was down there every season. He wouldn't to talk the doc He's been against me. No, oh

Starting point is 01:11:54 Okay, okay, okay He did speak about the movement. I never liked the movement of the jump. No, he said... But let's go with every since, every since. He was never speaking on it. Every since he... Damn time. He was never speaking on it. But I was speaking on something. I was speaking...

Starting point is 01:12:11 He didn't like it, but he was speaking on it. But now he feels like he will. I don't like it. I just look at the... I don't see it. The secret Santa Claus visit with Doc Rivers, he's been different. That's all I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:12:25 I don't know how much Doc paying. The last time I was there, we was winning. Let me see your cash. Last time I was there, we was winning. They turned it around, right? Huh? Yeah, they won it. They turned it around and went back around.

Starting point is 01:12:37 They made it, right? They went back around. They did a full 360. They did a full 360. Look at that, y'all. Happy to see Doc. Hey, do it again. He happy to see Doc.

Starting point is 01:12:51 That's the last time. That's the last time we was winning. He's like, I'm going to see Doc. An exquisite running man, my Mr. Rich. Hey, when that check clear, this is how you dance. That Doc check clear, do it again. Boom. Look at those feet.

Starting point is 01:13:10 An exquisite running man, Mr. B. Elite level. Back to the Lakers quickly before we move on. We asked to chat, whose side are you on, Charles Barkley or JJ's? 50-50 split. So, Gil, resident Lakers fan, do the Lakers think? No, not right now. No, hell no.

Starting point is 01:13:27 Not right now. Best team in basketball. Right now, listen, right now they playing good basketball. They are. Right now. Put the Lakers on 2B. Keep it quiet. This is the new Lakers standard. Keep the Lakers.

Starting point is 01:13:39 No one can talk about it. Let's keep it quiet. This is why I'm not a Lakers fan. Our 40-year-old. The Lakers ain't getting out the first round this year. It's our reputation. This is Laker representation. This is Laker representation.

Starting point is 01:13:52 How much do you want in back? Y'all want Laker representation. How much do you want in back? We got the first round. Saying this is okay. It depends. It depends on who you play. You get the motherfucking Cleveland Cavaliers or something like that.

Starting point is 01:14:03 They out of here. Or the Indiana Packers. They out of here. Cavs out of here. They ain't got no number one option. I'm out of here or the Indiana The cab do not have a number one option still Who is this for I'm a chiefs keep one for a host Hey, I was waiting Look, oh my god. I love like listen listen play the music money do that to you play king and steam music

Starting point is 01:14:35 Then you were supposed to take the two See that's some smoky didn't do He didn't get the money back from Deebo. Like, my $200. He said, we got about $200. I got about $200. I got about $200. He said, huh? Now, we made a bet on a college game. I want to spend Red's money.

Starting point is 01:14:54 Wildcats versus Cincy. Bear down. We pulled it out. Take a dip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm. And you're a man of his word. Yeah, I said bet, and I just ran.

Starting point is 01:15:04 Like, damn it. Honorable man, man of his word. Man of his word. I would have just kept the bread, Mm-hmm Honorable man man of his word man of his word. I would have just kept the bread guilt as we already know What bit Him pay me when he want to pay me. I already had to deal with you here in Stockton. I was like, yeah, you know, I'm not going to mention this one. All right, well, let's... I don't know how he's feeling right now. Seems like we got some Lakers fatigue,

Starting point is 01:15:36 so we'll keep this moving. That's how I knew me. I was thinking, man, you was going to be talking crazy. I knew it. They played Madden after the game in the chat. It was a good game. It was a good game. It was a good game.

Starting point is 01:15:49 Like, man, I'm pretending my mic didn't work. It was a good game, though. I said, wow, that's crazy. You sorry motherfucker. Sorry ass fuck. You and your kid. You barking and shit. Yeah, that was a good pass.

Starting point is 01:16:02 We can talk nicks if you like. Good ass pass. We can talk some nicks. That was a nice shit. Yeah, that was a good pass. We can talk to Nick. Good ass pass. We can talk to Nick. That was a nice run. Aw, man. Damn, that was a fumble. Damn. It must be the computer. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:13 Yo, while I'm on my rant, hey, Jason Tatum's trainer. Yo, he had an issue with me saying that Jason Tatum was soft, one of the softest Boston Celtics superstars ever. Uh-oh. Mr. Big Time.

Starting point is 01:16:24 Since you his trainer, make sure he gets finals MVP this year. Ooh He and I heard you wrote a book talking about like stop the bullshit. I'm a bright part too if he don't get it Hmm if he do if you don't I mean if you do he if you I mean it's light is very likely that he's gonna win finals MVP During the finals are gonna win. He's gonna win. Okay. Okay, we're in the finals. They're gonna win. He's gonna win Okay, well, we'll see. Okay. Well, we'll see the final Loser the Lakers could he win finals MVP? I mean that's your birthday It's your birthday guarantee, but I'm just saying you know, mr. B

Starting point is 01:17:00 Crash out trainer has a lot to say like, you know,, is your client the top five Boston Celtics player ever? Like, don't come for me. Make sure you get your... Top five Boston Celtics player ever? You don't think he is? Top five? You better go do your homework. I mean, but that's not something...

Starting point is 01:17:20 I mean, even if he wins, I mean, his other boy, his other boy. Who's after his bird? Damn. I mean, what you saying? I mean, Jalen Brown might be a top five. Let's not do that if we don't know. Shot! We don't know.

Starting point is 01:17:37 Let's not do it. If we don't know, we're not going to talk like we know and we don't know. I'm not taking over right now. I mean, he's 26. That's what I'm saying. By the end of his career, he might be over. Who? Over who?

Starting point is 01:17:53 Over who? Over Paul. John. Mr. B has entered the building. Mr. B is here. Oh, now, damn it. Come on, man. Paul, stop.

Starting point is 01:18:03 The truth? I'm not saying that by the. Paul, stop. It's the truth. I'm not saying by the end of his career. It's the truth, though. By the end of his career. Key, truth. I know one thing. Paul Pierce would never let anybody else get finals MVP, nor Larry Bird. I don't know what he was. Oh, whoa, someone did get finals MVP against Larry Bird.

Starting point is 01:18:21 When Larry Bird won an MVP. He was MVP that year and didn't win finals MVP. So name the top five. Because he lost his magic. I'm just saying. I'm not going to be here. I'm not going to be here. Name the top five Boston Celtics.

Starting point is 01:18:35 Was Maxwell the MVP when Larry Bird won? Top five. Maxwell? Who's the five Boston Celtics? Oh, yeah, Maxwell. Yeah. I think it was Bill Russell. Yeah, Maxwell.

Starting point is 01:18:43 Someone did win finals MVP over Bird. Did? Yeah. 1981. McKell? Houston. Hm? McKell?

Starting point is 01:18:51 No. Mac, poor Brad, Maxwell. Maxwell. And, um, and, what? 1981. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:18:56 Yeah. Yeah. That was over Bill. Little d-load. But let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk about. Finals MVP in the long run. No, that's just a hell of a argument.

Starting point is 01:19:04 No, what I'm saying is that's, just to be honest. That's kind of a bad statement a little bit What's the best thing this office? No, no, yeah the top five like throw that out there I mean, we'll prove it like not but top five. That's my opinion, but in a box I'll take you to form but it's my opinion, but it's what I'm saying is it's top five That's like that's like me Jaylen Brown is top five Boston Celtics ever. Wow. Yeah. I mean, hey I mean, he got the hardware to show it in that journal. Let's keep get one buddy get one so I'll Tell me my penis wrong. No, but that's it

Starting point is 01:19:39 Top five it kind of just takes away the whole argument in a box I don't think you know Boston Celtics all these championships all the stars and you're saying you're not top five at 28 right now And I over over Bob Listen the argument is the argument is he is the softest Boston Celtics superstar to ever put on the jersey. Yeah, but there's only four of them. There's not a lot of them. That's what I'm saying. That argument is like this. The culture is long as hell.

Starting point is 01:20:11 The culture is going back and forth. Bill Russell. Name the four. Superstars. That's what I'm saying. Superstars. Name the four. Superstars.

Starting point is 01:20:18 Superstars. Name the four. Bird. Bill Russell. Bill Russell. Bird. What you mean? That's it to me. Bill Russell.

Starting point is 01:20:25 Paul Pierce wasn't a superstar. Yes, he was a superstar. He came to LA, dropped 40, they named him the truth. Are we talking about the O's? Kevin Garnett. We talking about O's too, motherfuckers. Kevin Garnett. What about Bob Cousy?

Starting point is 01:20:33 Everybody Bob Cousy has a tooth. Wait, wait, wait. You can't put KD in there. Kevin McCale. Kevin McCale. Are you putting him in a Boston uniform though? KD. Are you putting KD in the Boston uniform?

Starting point is 01:20:41 Yes, KD. Oh, yeah. KD. KD. KD. K Kevin McHale. Superstar. Are you putting him in a Boston uniform though? Mm. KG. Are you putting KG in the Boston uniform? Yes.

Starting point is 01:20:50 KG is in the Boston uniform. Okay, you can put KG in, but that's an actual superstar. That's the only one they had. Like being a star in a superstar is very, too different. If you're the main guy on the Boston Celtics team, you are the superstar. No, that's not a superstar. Paul Pierce was a superstar. No, he was a superstar.

Starting point is 01:21:02 He was a superstar. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You saying Paul Pierce was a superstar? And he passed KG. Paul Pierce was a superstar. That's what you just said? Paul Pierce was a superstar. No, he was a superstar. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You saying Paul Pierce wasn't a superstar? And he passed KG. Paul Pierce was a superstar. Is that what you just said? You talking about Justin and Paul Pierce? That's it. Paul Pierce wasn't a superstar.

Starting point is 01:21:11 With all his stats. Who? No, no. We're not talking about KG. That's what I'm saying. We're not talking about KG. We're not talking about that. I'm talking about when you see Jason Tatum, are you like,

Starting point is 01:21:19 damn, I got it. We're not going to change it. Damn, it's going to be. We're not going to change it. We're not going to change it. No, I'm not changing it. Top five superstars. In the Boston Celtics. We're not gonna change it. We're not gonna change it. I said top five superstars in the bossy seat if you got cagey or Paul Pierce people will put them in they're gonna put him in front of KG For sure. Yeah

Starting point is 01:21:33 Because he only did and he's only 20 day. Lynn Brown is the top five cool For in fact, yeah, yes, but overall They both are. They hit me. They hit me. Four and five. Yeah. 100%. But overall, no. Who? It don't gotta be that. Who? I got you.

Starting point is 01:21:51 All Boston Celtics. Okay. Okay. Not just like that. He is. Paul Pierce is a Boston Celtics superstar. Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 01:21:59 This is what I'm talking about. 100%. Yes. Yes. KG was a Boston Celtics superstar. Bob Boosie. I went against that. Superstar. You crazy? The problem with that is, who? Crazy? But who? That crazy mother fucking KG? But Tatum's in front of KG. Huh? Tatum's in front.

Starting point is 01:22:07 He can beat his, but Tatum's in front of him. Yeah. No, he's not. Yeah, he is. Yes, he is. I'm not rolling. Why? Why is it?

Starting point is 01:22:14 He in front of him. Why? Why? I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know why. I just can't go with it. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:21 Why? Thank you. Same amount of championships. Same amount of championships and more stats and a first-ball team and all stars. I just like the dog. As a Boston Celtics. That's what the ball is about, right?

Starting point is 01:22:33 Yes. As a Boston Celtics. Is that what he's talking about? Jason Tatum, a superstar for the Boston Celtics. Are you talking about his feelings? You don't know how he feels out here. Jason Tatum, superstar for the Boston Celtics. Representing our country in the Olympics. He's top five for that team. He's for the Boston Celtics right now Five Boston Celtics superstar superstar. He's top five. Yeah. Yes

Starting point is 01:22:55 KG was only a one time all right. He was a one-time all-in be a player You know, hey McKiss he can come off the bench like on you guys say no, okay? See my thing. Yeah Right Russell he was drafted there. Okay, so there bird guys came There Because that's drought Boston had for a long time before KG He was a one. KG had nothing to do with him. KG, six, seven years there, he was a one-time all-NBA player. Ted Murray had three first teams and a third team.

Starting point is 01:23:32 That's how big his impact was. But that one year. His impact didn't do nothing. That was it. What are you talking about? Impact got a screen. Right, so I mean, Jason Tatum and KG can both switch. Who want to come off the bench next?

Starting point is 01:23:44 I know Jalen Brown is starting. So I know that. So he ain't before that motherfucker. Good luck. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we are back. It is 2025. Come off the bench. Show your support for Gil's Arena by downloading the Underdog app.

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Starting point is 01:24:52 We got some technical issues going on here in the arena. We appreciate everybody watching at home. We appreciate everybody in the audience today to celebrate Gil's birthday. We are storming the arena for January 6th, taking our day back. But let's keep this thing moving. So after finishing second in MVP voting last season, Shea Gildas Alexander is on a mission to throw Joker as the best player in the league. One player ready to co-sign SGA as MVP is Anthony Edwards,

Starting point is 01:25:15 who had this to say to ESPN's Tim McMahon after the Thunder beat the Wolves on New Year's Eve, saying, quote, The MVP of the NBA, he's unguardable. I don't know if they could give it to Jokic again. Yeah, I would say Shea. Yeah, he's looking like the MVP, man. He's consistent every night. His team going to give him the ball and just let him rock out every night.

Starting point is 01:25:33 It's nothing to think about. Hey, get Shea the ball, and he going to get busy, and then we're going to figure it out after that. I love watching that. It's incredible, man. I hope they give MVP to him this year for sure. I feel like he should have won it last year, but he's playing out of his mind right now Yeah You the one. You the one. You the best. You the best, daddy. You the best, baby.

Starting point is 01:26:25 Oh, boy. You got it, baby. You got it. What the fuck? You got it, boy. You got it. You got it. You got it.

Starting point is 01:26:33 You got it. You did it, daddy. You do it, daddy. You got it, daddy. I like how you doing that, daddy. I see you, daddy. You doing it, daddy. I like how you score like that, daddy.

Starting point is 01:26:41 You go ahead, daddy. You go ahead, daddy. I think you call that a game. Hey, daddy, I like how you scoring that, daddy. Yeah. I like how you sitting there. Hey, daddy, you sitting there Daddy, come on. Daddy. Come on, baby. Yeah, daddy. I think you called that a, hey, daddy, I like how you scoring that. Yeah. I like how you sitting there. Hey, hey, daddy, you sit down.

Starting point is 01:26:50 You do that. Daddy, you walk in here. Daddy. Daddy, you taking that game. Get the fuck out of here. Motherfucking team Shayott these bitch. God. That's a fit, daddy.

Starting point is 01:26:58 Damn. That's a fit, daddy. That's hot. Wait, what was this interview? He did that to Kevin Durant, but he was busting his ass. He was busting Kevin Durant? OK. So we know how it is.

Starting point is 01:27:11 But we know it ain't going to go out there and do what it do. So why leave him playing with his ass? He didn't give Kyrie that respect. Huh? He didn't give Kyrie that respect. What'd he say? He didn't show love to Kyrie. He said, I got to go out there and.

Starting point is 01:27:22 Yeah, but what I'm saying, he was saying that. I'm not doing that. But he was going out there... Man, look at that pair of pants. What's that? What's that? Ain't nobody want to hear this shit, man. Man, these are... Nah, man.

Starting point is 01:27:32 They're supposed to be a one-line... Talk about him. He really... One thing for sure, two things for sure. He full of shit. Full of shit. Full of fucking shit right now. Why you got to stand on that side? Why you standing on that? Hey, hey, hey. He let you try to change. He full of shit. Full of shit. Full of fucking shit right now. Listen, if I didn't want to stand on that side, why you standing on that side?

Starting point is 01:27:48 He let you try to change. He full of shit. Ten toes down. Try to change. Ten toes down. In baby war, motherfucker. Ant-Man going to... Ant-Man going to...

Starting point is 01:27:56 No diddy. What the... No diddy. He going to be slippery giving them 50. Ant-Man going to give them 50. That's what we doing. We standing on Ant. So SGA had this response.

Starting point is 01:28:08 He could give a compliment. So SGA had this response to Ant-Man showing them love. It's a really good feeling. Whoa. It's a really good feeling. No offense to you guys and the media, but the best satisfaction is when your peers and the media but the like the best satisfaction is when your peers

Starting point is 01:28:28 and the guys that do the same thing for a living at a very high level that you do recognize and respect your craft

Starting point is 01:28:35 and your talent that's a really good feeling you sound like Drake get that Canadian out your voice get that Canadian out your voice

Starting point is 01:28:44 I'm not the lead semester it's all guys respect me you know we rolling over this grade Get that Canadian out your voice Respecting me so thunder Take him! Chill! Chill! It might be in the parking lot! It might be in the parking lot! It might be in the parking lot! That's what that's... He had that look! I didn't sign up for this shit today. He had that look like... I did not sign up for this shit today.

Starting point is 01:29:16 He had that look. Not today! I can't play the off-ball. Not today! Not today! Not today! He had that look. He had that look, didn't he?

Starting point is 01:29:24 He was like, I can't wait till he's dead, man. Hey Hey, that little smirk he did the little like, with the handbag inside his eyes. Hey, that's in the whip. He in the whip. That's the whip. With the seat back. Oh! Take the shoes off, or you gonna scratch your feet. She done warned her, don't touch your hands. Give me hands.

Starting point is 01:29:55 Give me hands. Oh, my god! Oh, my god! You guys saying anything you want, baby. You up. You up. You up. I'm done. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won.

Starting point is 01:30:08 You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won.

Starting point is 01:30:16 You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won. You won.

Starting point is 01:30:24 You won. You won. You very immature. Look at my roof. Look at my roof. Look at my roof. Ball up top, man. Check it out. Ball up top. Ball up top. As a reminder, Underdog does not support the statements that are made on this show. Shit, man.

Starting point is 01:30:36 Listen, man. Bill did not support the statements. You going to be here all night? You going to be here? Oh, man. Listen, man. I'll be right back. I'm going to be a little late.

Starting point is 01:30:46 Oh, shit. But we got to give the Thunder... We know who he voting for for All-Star starting. Shit. We got to give the Thunder some love, though. Thunder currently holding down top spot in the West at a 30-5, seven-game lead in the midst of a franchise record 15-game winning streak. Thunder franchise record 15 game winning streak,

Starting point is 01:31:05 but that does not include their loss to the Bucks in the NBA Cup championship game. So SGA has been the catalyst to OKC's success. I'm trying, Lord. I'm trying.

Starting point is 01:31:16 Look at that line. Fuck that line. Fuck that line. Habitual line stepper. Go ahead, man. It's my bad. No. Like I said,

Starting point is 01:31:24 Thunder franchise record 15-game win streak does not include their loss to the Bucks in the NBA Cup Championship because that game does not count. SGA has been the catalyst

Starting point is 01:31:31 to OKC's success, averaging 31 points, six assists, six rebounds, two steals, and one block per game this season on 52-36-89

Starting point is 01:31:39 shooting splits. And according to StatMamba, SGA is one of only four guards in NBA history to average 30-plus points per game in a 15-game win streak. The other three are James Harden, Steph Curry, and MJ, all of which who won MVPs in the season that they did it.

Starting point is 01:31:56 So I already know the first part of your question, do you respect Ant-Man for showing SGA love? We've gotten past that point. Yes. But do you agree with what Ant-Man is saying about SGA and him deserving to be? the MVP this year I'm gonna just keep brief Yes, I

Starting point is 01:32:13 Mean honest in there Oh my god Donovan Mitchell in there. Are you ready to give the Cavs number one option Donovan Mitchell? Yes, some 82 games. Hell. Yeah, mr. B cast what number one last year. I mean, and I know his numbers ain't as high, but what was Derrick Rose's numbers when he won MVP? So Cavs have the best record in the NBA right now. Thunder

Starting point is 01:32:33 have the best record in the Western Conference, one game different. I like that. I like that. But Derrick, the optics of what Derrick Rose was doing, it just looked bad. Yeah, I get it. But if, say, you're probably ready to admit about Derrick, the optics of what Derrick Rose was doing, it just looked bad. Yeah, I get it. But if, say, say, say. So you're probably ready to admit about Derrick Mitchell?

Starting point is 01:32:50 Donovan Mitchell? Donovan Mitchell. No, no, no. I can't. No, I'm not going to sit there and cap. Like, they are having a good year, and he's, like, they're number one, right? Is he top five? If he can put together, like, a couple 40-point games, like, you know,

Starting point is 01:33:04 like before the All-star after the bro He has to be in there. They should be in it, but number one 340 point games are believing like the last about Jason Taylor. Why don't never bring a visit like I said Donovan It's a nice to oh, I mean like I was saying not doing that soft shit Donovan Mitchell. He averaged 28 though. Hey Tatum is from saying that other dude over there with him? Average 23 or some shit. The other one averaged almost 30. But you second.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Why are you number two? You got to give the Cavs their respect. But they whooped the Cavs' ass without Jalen Brown. They did. The last time they played, Jalen Brown wasn't playing. It was just Tatum. And they won. I mean, all right, you won.

Starting point is 01:33:46 I'm just saying. The problem with SGA, SGA, they've only lost five games. They've only lost five games. And he's averaging 31. 31, 66. How many games did Cavs lost? Four. Woo.

Starting point is 01:33:57 And you're averaging 22. We're not even saying that. How many games Boston lost? I'm in the West. I don't care. I'm in the East. I'm in Wolves. I'm in the West. Steve Nash averaged what? I don't care. I'm in the East. I'm in the NBA. I'm in the NBA.

Starting point is 01:34:08 Steve Nash won MVP twice, averaging under 20 points a game. Okay. You average a lot of assists, though. I'm averaging eight more points than you. Right now? And you're one game. You have one game lost. 19 and 16.

Starting point is 01:34:22 He's averaging what? Steve Nash averaged 19 and 16 on his MVP runs and what 14 is 14 on one of the craziest thing Yeah, it was how many games is that win a year before the twice one was 14 though Yeah, it was What I'm saying is Steve Nash average 16 and 12 and I got a little team that the team here before that you know You got a factor in that we know okay They only won like 19 games a year before. They just added him and they won 65 games.

Starting point is 01:34:47 You don't get rewarded by the turnaround of the team. That's how you got rewarded. That's how you got rewarded. He actually performed at an MVP level. 14 and what's the name? It's the whole package of it. But y'all still think Mobile didn't All-Star after

Starting point is 01:35:03 they only lost four... They only lost four games, right? Yes. So Mobley's an all-star, right? 31-4. I wouldn't be mad that if Mobley made it. They should have, what,

Starting point is 01:35:14 two or three? They should have two. Two. Two? You grab three. You got to go over Garland? Yes.

Starting point is 01:35:23 What's Garland's numbers right now? He averaged at 20. He averaged at 20. Mobley aver? Yes. What's Garland's numbers right now? He averaged a 20. But what was he averaging? What was he averaging? 19. If all three made it, I'd turn. I'd turn.

Starting point is 01:35:31 If we weren't degraded like that, we couldn't. Of course we couldn't put him in. But now that this is happening. But right now, I'm just saying he gotta be in the cut. Right now, it should be Shea. It should be Shea. 19 and 9. It should be...

Starting point is 01:35:43 Giannis. Giannis averaged a 32. It should be Joker behind him. Joker's number one. It should be Shea. It should be Shea. It should be... Giannis. Giannis has the number one. It should be Joker behind him. Joker number one. It should be Joker behind him. Darius Garland averaging 21 and 7 right now. 21 and 7? Those are great numbers.

Starting point is 01:35:53 Donovan Mitchell averaging 23, 5 assists, 4 rebounds. How much is Mobley? Mobley averaging 19 and 9 boards. Yeah, that's going... They're playing. They might get all three. All three of them. All three might make it.

Starting point is 01:36:04 All three of them. 19 and what? 19 and 9. All three of them. All three might make it. All three of them. 19 and what? 19 and 9. All three of them. All three going to make it. All three of them going. Woo! And all three of them going.

Starting point is 01:36:11 They falling. And I can tell you this. They falling. Y'all going to be mad I said this. What they're going to do is. All three of them going. One Boston player is going to make it. We know who that is.

Starting point is 01:36:20 And then they're going to take three Cavs players instead of two and two. You don't think. They're going to take two. They're going to take two Boston players. That's great for sure watch that's for sure For sure, that's cool. Who don't make it brown. No, I don't think Makes it over brown white. No white. They were trying to say they gonna say Garland. No Now that I pick somebody else. Watch. Who else is there to look?

Starting point is 01:36:47 Boston might get three before Cleveland. Maxie. They going to go by the runs. You think Boston will get three? If Cleveland has the number one record, they always pull two or three from the number one record. There's not going to be three from the number two record. They would get three before Cleveland.

Starting point is 01:37:02 No, no, not three. No, not three from the number two. But you don't think Brown would make it? Brown and Trae are the only ones. No, what I'm saying is the pull of third from Cleveland. Oh. The pull of third from Cleveland

Starting point is 01:37:10 has to come from Boston. Why does it got to come from Boston? Why doesn't somebody else at the bottom of the East up? Because it's... Why didn't Trae get white to be All-Star? Trae going to be done dirty anyway.

Starting point is 01:37:20 They're trying to get Derrick White to be All-Star. You don't think Trae Young going to make the All-Star game? They take him home through... You don't think Trae Young going to make the All-Star game? They take him both to the... You don't think Trey Young going to make the All-Star game? No.

Starting point is 01:37:26 If they take three Cleveland... If they take three... If they take three Cleveland Cavaliers, Trey Young going to make it. Trey Young ain't making it. Trey Young ain't making it. No.

Starting point is 01:37:38 Trey Young ain't making it. Who makes it? Who makes it? You got Brunson. You got Brunson and Cat. Two. Right? You got Brunson and Cat

Starting point is 01:37:44 over there. Okay, we're gonna do Giannis Mmm guarantee you got Donovan Mitchell guaranteed and then they have to pull one more from this Know what I'm saying? I'm just talking about locks. Yeah What would be making it over a bowl the dude from the heat? Nobody from the heat making it the center. He always made This is a relax therefore really okay, right? Oh, oh boy in here on the East put boy, you got a

Starting point is 01:38:24 Do we go? Yeah, I'm no, I got your honest already. Yeah, honest Bob Lee in here on the east We got the four Yeah, he get voted in there seven no love for Dame Tatum. Tatum Brown. LaMelo. LaMelo leading the round. LaMelo. Seven. Yeah, he getting voted in there. No love for Dame? No. No Dame. No Dame. Alright, that's it. Hold on. Hold on. We got the dice.

Starting point is 01:38:58 And B. Hell. Maxie? No. It's All Star. Maxie. No. It's all-star. Maxie. No. It's all-star. No. You got to pick.

Starting point is 01:39:09 But he's not getting voted in. Coach is not going to put him in. Coach is not going to put him in. Yeah. Didn't they just come out with the votes? Where's the vote? Where did they just come out with the votes? He's not getting voted in.

Starting point is 01:39:17 That was just the fan vote. That's part of the process. What was he at on that? What did that look like? Was he leading that? No. Yeah, what was Embiid in that? Embiid. Somebody from Orlando got a guy. Yonis had like one. Yonis had like one. Nobody from Orlando got a guy on his head like one nobody Orlando beat is eighth right now in the East Fund Court

Starting point is 01:39:26 Yes, he's what? Yeah, nobody from Orlando nobody from Orlando you see them both nobody from Miami Ja, that's why I was Oh shit, okay She ain't jay at this point the fact that we're having this Yeah, the fact that we're fucking up. I mean, we're not saying like this. We talk about locks That's a team that means hey, hey seven blocks that we have nobody from Chicago. No, so okay Yeah, I heard nobody right, Indiana. Nobody in Indiana, Indiana. Nobody from Chicago. Nope one from Milwaukee That's why I said White's. So, Kade, one of the possible.

Starting point is 01:40:05 That's why I said Boston don't get three all-stars. So, Kade, one of the possible from Milwaukee. Them boys in Cleveland are Boston going to get three. Cleveland are going to get three. Boston are going to get two. Cleveland are going to get three. Yeah. Cleveland might get three.

Starting point is 01:40:17 I mean, Boston might get three. White going to be all-star. Boston might get three. White going to be all-star. Where is White's number? No. White going to be all-star. Cleveland are going to get three.

Starting point is 01:40:24 Boston are going to get two. Boston are going to get three. Boston's going to get two. Boston's going to get two. Boston's going to get three. Brown for sure. Three and three on the East, because it ain't, I mean, what's it going to take for you? Derek White's 17, five and four. They put White before they put Garland.

Starting point is 01:40:34 No. No. They can't. They can't do that. OK. Garland fucking hooping. That one is one and seven, too. Yo, this number's better than having 21 and seven.

Starting point is 01:40:44 Garland hooping. Derek White off is crazy. Trae Young and Maxie gonna get snubbed. Made it to USA. Trae Young. Trae Young. It's gonna be up

Starting point is 01:40:50 for them two again. Trae Young could possibly make it. That's the fucked up thing. That's a fucked up thing. Gotti, Benchero, both was on last year. So Trae Young, 18. Gotti, Benchero,

Starting point is 01:40:59 and Halliburton gonna lead up. That's what I'm saying. Trae came from like a sub. Trae came running for a sub. Yeah. So he'll make it again. Sorey came from like a sub. Trey came in for a sub. Yeah, so he make it again. So he make it, he make it. Bam out of bio. Bam, Bam slipped in. Bam was automatically on there. So yeah, oh yeah, they're six. So yeah. That's what I said. Fucking Tyra Hero.

Starting point is 01:41:19 He's the best player on the team. That's the fucked up part. Yeah. Okay. But back to our and SGA conversation before we veer it off as we tend to do here on this program. He really did just circle back to that.

Starting point is 01:41:32 He just circled back, though. That's the problem with, like, that's... That's no problem, dude. That's exquisite hosting. The reason the record positive

Starting point is 01:41:40 orientation class is for some reason the teacher always want to bring you back to what you veered off of you gotta learn the lesson So right now y'all got SGA over Joker right now in the MVP race. I do. Not even close. Oh, man, it's not even close, man. Stop. I got Yannis.

Starting point is 01:42:07 Which one? Yannis averaging 32. Who? Yannis averaging 32. Man, with the Yannis, bro. I told y'all, y'all. He got to do more. Are they even 50%?

Starting point is 01:42:15 Are they even 50%? 32 and 11. 32 and 11. Joker can't be. It can't be one and two. 32 and 11. One's averaging 31. Hell no.

Starting point is 01:42:23 Four loss. Five losses. Joker at five right now. No other Hall of Famer, no other 75. I generate more offense than you, and you a point guard. Move around, bro. So let's talk about it. Joker at five, and I generate more offense than you. Joker may not care about winning his fourth MVP,

Starting point is 01:42:41 but the Nugget Superstar has been cooking this season, currently second in MVP betting odds behind SGA. So, Joker went head-to-head with Wimby in back-to-back games this weekend, continued to show his dominance, putting up back-to-back 40 pieces, and in those two games he averaged 44 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists.

Starting point is 01:42:57 And for the season, lost 1-1-1. For the season, he's averaging 32 points, which is a career high, along with 13 rebounds 10 assists 9.7 But we round up here on this show on 55 47 81 shooting splits his 47.3 3-point percentage is currently leading the league He also leads the league with six 40-point games this season and after the slow start the Nuggets have climbed a fourth in the West So will joke it be the victim of voter fatigue in the MVP?

Starting point is 01:43:27 No, it's not voter fatigue. It's not voter fatigue? So you're telling me that 32, 13, and 10. 32 and 9.7. No. We round up in the NBA. We're not giving triple-doubles. Oh, my.

Starting point is 01:43:39 We round up. No. Oh, my. You can't round up on a triple-double. You can't round up on a triple-double. Oh, my. You can't round up on a triple-double. Wow. So we usually round up. No. Oh, my. You can't round up on a triple double. You can't round up on a triple double. You can't round up on a triple double. Wow.

Starting point is 01:43:47 You can't round up on a triple double. So we usually round up. And if it was Russ. No, Russ had a triple double. Russ had a triple double. We didn't round up. It was a triple double. But if it was, Russ.

Starting point is 01:43:55 30, 11, 11. We rounding it up. No, you round up. You rounding it up. 9.78. He don't get that triple double, though. If he get the triple double, he gets it. He don't get it.

Starting point is 01:44:04 We're not going to pre-give it to him. We know math, though, right? No, yeah, we know math. 9.78. He don't get that triple-double, though. If he get the triple-double, he gets it. He don't get it. We're not pre-giving to him. We know math, though, right? No, yeah, we know math. We was in class. We paid attention. The word roundup. They put it in there for a reason. Where it is.

Starting point is 01:44:15 It's still. It's still. It's still. Ten. Triple-double. It's still four-flag. 31.5, 13 rebounds, 9.7 assists. They still tied for eight.

Starting point is 01:44:27 They all tied. Listen, the triple doubles down the line better than almost. For a big? MVP. No, no, triple double for a big. Almost is not good enough. No, no, no, I'm just saying, he will get it.

Starting point is 01:44:42 Of course he will. Just like he almost got it last time. They ain't going to get it. They going to be in seventh place. So if I'm here for a workplace right now, I'm just saying, he will get it. Of course he will. Just like he almost got it last time he lost. They ain't going to get it. They going to be in seventh place. So if I'm here for a workplace right now, I'm just passing the ball. 47% from first. Right? I'm passing up shots.

Starting point is 01:44:51 I got to lay up. 47% from first. He going to get it. He going to get it. That's why they going to get it. Shooting 47% on nearly five attempts per game. Five attempts a game, I'm shooting almost 50% from three. But what about the other?

Starting point is 01:45:02 Five attempts? And inside with the Lakers. What about the youngest? What about the second youngest team in the NBA? I thought we were just supposed to root for them. And he averaged 31. And he's carrying.

Starting point is 01:45:13 And he's bopping everybody. This is the second youngest team in the NBA. And the only reason they're second is because they got an old motherfucking name Caruso on their team. Yo. Other than that, they'll be the youngest team in the NBA, only with five losses.

Starting point is 01:45:31 Gil, we got a question from K-1. LeBron's a BNP. Shut up, Nick. He averaged 25, 8 and 8, 9. Shit. Jokers, they both in the same place. Tied for fifth. Same thing they were, same place they were last year, right?

Starting point is 01:45:48 Yeah. Right? Shea averaging pretty much the same thing he was averaging last year, right? And Nikola's having a better year this year than he had last year. His team is worse. But I don't, he had a better, he's, right there, they're fourth. Yeah. They finished third last year. Why would team come into play?

Starting point is 01:46:10 It's in the same spot last year so they're the same the Nuggets in the same spot they were last year As you ate them in the same spot they were last year and the coldest numbers is better this show man You got to give it to him. That's all I'm saying. That's player progression to him. That was my argument. You remember that was my argument? His numbers are better. That was my argument? But how much he averaged last year? 26. Across the board everything is up. Remember my argument last year? It don't matter what the numbers are Nick. Every across the board. Hey across the board. Hey, across the board. So last season,

Starting point is 01:46:48 Joker averaged 26, 12.4 rebounds, 9 assists. It was almost a triple-double last year. But his numbers are better, though. But his numbers are better. Shooting percentages from the field, three, free throw, more assists, more points, more rebounds.

Starting point is 01:47:04 And that's years after doing the same thing Gave it to the same Kobe and LeBron every year if you're going off that Two points fair argument fair are not these And I'm the same one that said they could have gave it to LeBron James every year. Yes You should have did that they should but they did not so we thought oh For him. No, I'm'm not rolling so he ain't worthy you're tied in the same place as a 40 year old those numbers you're supposed to be number one who Denver same record Denver's fourth but those numbers are not the same it don't matter he averaged 30 LeBron averaged

Starting point is 01:47:41 32 32 11 and 10. Those numbers are nowhere near the close. 24. Not at first. They're not close. 24. But that was my argument. Remember, I said it last year. I said with the stats he have, I said with the stats he have

Starting point is 01:47:57 and he won MVP and his team was third, he has the most upside. He's only averaging 26. What if he averages 30 next year? What if he averages triple-double? What if they're second or third? He wins the most upside right? I said you got he's only averaging 26. What if he average 30 nation? What if he average is triple-double? Yeah, whatever their second third he wins the MVP. Yes, you can't no matter what anyone does Like you get what if I almost know what I'm saying? What what what could Luca have done? I'm with you from his last year stats of this year to win it like so yo

Starting point is 01:48:21 He's winning last year with the numbers he did, he has the biggest upside. Shea was sitting here like, oh, you averaged that last year. No matter what, you're the same. But hold on. I gotta average 40. But we hold it. But, but, but, no, hold on. Whoa, whoa. We're not gonna do that, though. Hold on. What do we say about it? So Shea,

Starting point is 01:48:39 but this is Shea third, fourth, you're averaging 30, right? Consistent 30. What do we say about the other guys, though? They won by number one. And B, what do we say about NB? Got to go up. Got to go up. We all said it.

Starting point is 01:48:52 Anthony Davis. Yes, got to go up. We did. We said it at the beginning of this year. We said it. Everybody. And then we didn't expect Jokic to go up. But that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:49:01 We thought he was going to stay. No, we did. We did. Because he was 26-14. That's what I'm saying. We thought he was going to stay. No, we did. We did. Because he was 26-14. That's what I'm saying. He has the biggest uphill. Right? If you have a sturdy-year team is when you get better, you can only go down.

Starting point is 01:49:14 Right? The fact that you stayed is impressive. But you can't go up. You only go up if your team gets worse. No. No. No. No.

Starting point is 01:49:22 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

Starting point is 01:49:24 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

Starting point is 01:49:24 No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. If your team gets worse, no There's in the same place They finish second I think it was thunder well, but where were they last They were So what was Minnesota last year? So what was Minnesota last year? It wasn't fourth. I promise you. They were fourth. At this point in time? Right before the fucking break. Last year. At this time.

Starting point is 01:49:50 I don't know if this is exactly what it was. It wasn't in first. It wasn't in first. Yes, it was. It was. It was just him and Denver. So we're talking about where they finished. Damn where they are now.

Starting point is 01:50:02 Where they finished. The numbers that they finished the season at where they team finished at right it's the same the Denver Nuggets for second

Starting point is 01:50:09 OKC finished above them Shea averaged the same numbers right one game difference one game difference Nikola's numbers are better Shea is the same they are one right now

Starting point is 01:50:19 and Shea's record is different and remember Shea's record is different Shea's record is different Shea averaged one more point than he did last year Joker averaged five more points five more points more rebounds more rebounds Shay average one more point than he did last year. Joker average five more points.

Starting point is 01:50:26 Five more points. More rebounds. More rebounds. And the one more. And the percentages, too. And the shooting clips. That's what I'm saying. The fact that you second with 28.

Starting point is 01:50:36 Now if you average. The individual performance. Let's say if you average 28 and you win second, you win the MVP. The individual performance. If you average 27 and you're first, you win the MVP. If your average're the same But he's first he wins MVP number the most he has the most upside numbers are good Because this team is worse. Oh, it's a second this year with those numbers. He's fourth this year with more numbers fourth right now. So why wouldn't his numbers go down because his team is better? But we're in January.

Starting point is 01:51:06 That's why I said it's more impressive. We're in January. Oh, my God. It's not impressive that his go up and they stay the same as well? The Denver Nuggets are still fourth. They're fourth. They were second before. What's still fourth?

Starting point is 01:51:18 They're second. They're second. They're second now. They got the same record. No, they were fourth now. They were second last season. they were second last season. They were second last season. I'm not upset at the end of the season.

Starting point is 01:51:28 No, last year, it was... Of course. That even sounds better. It sounds better if they were at the end of the year. They were second. If they lose a game, they fall to eighth. If my numbers were... If they lose a game, they fall to eighth.

Starting point is 01:51:37 It's only January. What I'm saying is, there was nobody like Tatum, right? They were 57-25, had the same amount of wins as the Thunder last year. Thunder won the tiebreaker. Thunder were number one seed. Nuggets were the two seed. No, but what I'm saying is, but think about the end of the season stats, right? What does Tatum average for him to even win the MVP from what he did last year?

Starting point is 01:52:01 What did he average last year? 28. 28, right? He averaged 30. His team was one. It's not about averaging. No, but what I'm saying is, hold on. It's about being the most valuable player on the floor.

Starting point is 01:52:10 That's not how many points you have. What I'm saying is, if your team's success is there, your numbers is there, so what can Tatum have averaged this year to put him in the MVP? What does Shea have to average from what he did last year, this year, to put him in the MVP. What does Shea have to average from what he did last year, this year, to put him in the MVP? The only person who has a chance to bump up is Jokic because of the points. If he averages 26, if he averages 28, he wins it.

Starting point is 01:52:35 If his team goes to first, he wins it. So you think it's just the point, not the rebounds, assists? But he can average the same amount. All he does is go two more points because the chances of She average of 33 to 34 irrelevant Yeah It's a question oh it's called I'm getting better Jordan and I'm more valuable

Starting point is 01:53:00 So gill imagine is nobody has room to prove gill g, do you agree that every year LeBron James is in Cleveland, that minus the first rookie year, that he could have been league MVP? Right? Fair statement. Because his numbers every year were... Consistent. Consistent, but this is what we expect of him,

Starting point is 01:53:20 to get better, to lead his team, no matter who was around him. Right? This was the expectation of him. And they could have gave him league MVP every year if they fucking wanted to. Right? Because he was that.

Starting point is 01:53:32 We all, if we had to vote, we would have been honest. He would have had more than he has. Yeah. Same thing with Nicola, right? The one year you said he shouldn't have got it, right? So he has one that's in question. Last year, yeah.

Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah. Well, two that's in question. Yeah. Really? I don't even think about last year. No questions for me, but go ahead. It's not, but in the argument of sport, people, right? And it's the same thing with him right now.

Starting point is 01:54:02 If you really just look at the totality of what he's doing, the domination that LeBron's exhibit then, there's no difference in it now. It is. Like, imagine somebody wins. Like, imagine someone wins an MVP, J.K. I didn't say J.K. won an MVP. Should have.

Starting point is 01:54:27 No, no, just like Steve Nash. Should have won it. Right? You win an MVP, you average 13, 8, and 9, and your team is second. Think about the upside you have with your stats and your team. If you average 14, 7, and 9, and your team is second, you're supposed to win it again. If your team is first, and you average 13, 9, and 9, you win it.

Starting point is 01:54:52 So you have more chances throughout your stats to win an MVP. It's harder for somebody who was first and first. Like Tatum was first with 28. He didn't win it. Shea averaged 36 and 5 last year his team was first he didn't win it what the fuck do these two people got an average all right you gotta go to 40 what happened what they gotta do more than you've been doing but if my team is Number one. All about size. But what is it about this? It's about impact. They're number one. Val, you, Nick. My team is 22 years old.

Starting point is 01:55:28 What is better than number one? My play. What the fuck are you talking about? My play is impactful. The most per game. I can go out there and score 30 points a game. But if I'm missing in the last five minutes of the fucking game, every fucking time we need you,

Starting point is 01:55:46 you're not our MVP. We going to the MVP. That's our MVP. That's my game. Who the fuck is this? Wait, wait, hold on. That's what I'm saying. Did he say the last five minutes? No.

Starting point is 01:55:53 Murray's the dude in the last five minutes for Denver. What are you talking about? Has he been the dude? Yes. Yes. No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't. That's your theory that you made up in your head. Because the way you watch the game, Yes! Kobe has it. Yes! No, he hasn't. No, he hasn't.

Starting point is 01:56:05 That's your theory that you made up in your head. The way you watch the game, you're like, oh, Uri is the guy. Don't nobody agree with that shit just because you say it, bro. If anybody else is watching the game, they can say, no, Uri is not that guy in the form. Because you still got to play off Kobe Bryant, right? I mean, you still got to play off Joker, right? Just like he said about Shaq. Hey, as long as Shaq in the game, Shaq is the problem.

Starting point is 01:56:29 He gets all the attention. That means that Kobe can become the fourth quarter guy because who you got to double? It's the same fucking shit. Joker is the guy. The only reason Jamal Murray is the guy in the fourth is because you got to double this nigga. You contradict yourself all the time, bro. I don't even know what you're saying because you gotta double this nigga you contradict yourself all the time, bro

Starting point is 01:56:46 I don't even know what you're saying. You gotta double fix yourself. Oh, you know, I will say any Back baby ain't got nobody was about who was the second best player on? Ocasey they'd nice. Is he better than Murray J do no J do this man is doing with a younger team. Yeah, they have no winning experience And he's balling You are You are Got a question you were three-time MVP You and the VIP. You up there. You can't get back here.

Starting point is 01:57:26 You can't get back here. You are a three-time MVP. You can't get back here. My whole team is college agents. We don't care about you. We're college agents. We don't care about you. And we're better than y'all.

Starting point is 01:57:38 We don't care about you. Two years here. We don't care. When Michael Jordan was the MVP, who was first? He always go back to Michael Jordan. Why do we keep bringing this man up? That's the only good point he got is Michael Jordan. When Michael Jordan won MVP the next year, who team was first?

Starting point is 01:57:58 Nobody. When LeBron James was MVP, who team was first the next year? Nobody. How about Kobe Bryant? When he won MVP, who team was first? Nobody. How about Kobe Bryant? When he won MVP, who team was? Nobody. Right? There's no way.

Starting point is 01:58:10 I'm MVP. So Gil. Hey, wait. Are those the only MVPs in the history of the NBA? We're talking about Shay. We're talking about Shay right now. I'm talking about the only MVP in the history of the NBA. You are the only MVP.

Starting point is 01:58:19 And somebody keeps beating you. Yeah. And somebody keeps beating you. What are you? So if somebody keeps beating you, right, what did you so if somebody keeps beating you right? What did you is what did you expect to do? What do we expect him to do if somebody keep beating you try to do more You're trying to do more Why Joker can't average 36 32? He averages 32 right now. I've been doing that.

Starting point is 01:58:45 No, you haven't. No, you haven't. No, you haven't. No, you haven't. No, you haven't. No, you haven't. He's never averaged 31. Thank you.

Starting point is 01:58:53 No, you haven't. Thank you. Who averaged this? What happened? No, you haven't. They didn't come prepared. 31. 30.

Starting point is 01:59:01 It's 2025. They didn't come prepared. 31. Thank you. Goddamn. And what happened? Huh? Huh? They fucked him? Who did? Yes. The voters.

Starting point is 01:59:09 Metaphorically. Metaphorically, ladies and gentlemen. So, but... So... You're getting nervous. If I've been averaging consistent 30, right? Consistent 30. And I haven't won it.

Starting point is 01:59:19 Man. And I haven't won a championship. I haven't won MVP. We were 20. I haven't... Hold on. I haven't gotten to the conference finals. I haven't gotten to the. I haven't won MVP. We were 20. I haven't. Hold on. I haven't got to the conference finals. We were 20.

Starting point is 01:59:28 They still 20. I'm 21. When the oldest gets 80. What I'm saying is the average age on the team is 22. They're the second youngest team. Blazers is the number one. They're the youngest team. So it's good.

Starting point is 01:59:41 Number two is okay. It's good when you want to use it it's good when you want to use it and bad when it don't count you're an MVP a champion and you're letting a 22 year old team be in front of you in the same conference but I haven't who has a championship that means I'm not the MVP so who has the championship does that mean I'm not the MVP so does Shay have a championship oh man no they don't supposed to so So does he supposed to? Which Gil? Do we expect him? So you cool with him coming back just averaging 30, losing the second round? Averaging 30, losing the second round?

Starting point is 02:00:12 Are we talking about regular season? Same numbers. Same numbers. We have five losses. What are we talking about? Yeah. Come on. I'm not just saying this.

Starting point is 02:00:24 We're just talking about it. Listen. Is he supposed to grow year in, year out? Yes. So just being here. What? Being here. Just like Jason.

Starting point is 02:00:34 Even though it's 30. Why do I need to? Even though it's 30. Why do I need to average more? Because you ain't got over the hump. He's averaged number one. Deal. Because you ain't got over the hump. What I'm saying. We have five losses. What do I need?

Starting point is 02:00:54 About now if I want to win, yo, you want to be talking about now? I'm talking about the totality of the season Yes, he's average 30. Yeah Shit ain't won shit. Ain't got over the hump. Boom, every year. We expect you to come back. You averaged 30? We want you to average 31.

Starting point is 02:01:13 You averaged 31? We want you to average 32. Yes. If you ain't been getting it done. Steve Nash didn't get it done. We talking about Chase. Steve Nash got to the Western Conference Finals. He didn't get it done. Steve he got to the Western Conference Finals. He didn't get it done.

Starting point is 02:01:26 Even after he got to the Western Conference. He didn't get it done. Two times MVP. He didn't get it done. But what he's saying is you average 30, and then you out first round. Earning 30, out first round. You're not.

Starting point is 02:01:35 What is it? If I'm averaging 30, and my team is number one, and we lose it, what is it? Because they gave him the motherhook. Because there's something. And then the following year, and I'm averaging 30, and we winning what the fuck am i trying to average 36 for who said 36 but what about that see that's what he does what do i need that last year he averaged 30 okay this year he's averaging 31 What are you talking about? They got to pay now. You said 30 to 31.

Starting point is 02:02:06 Last year, he averaged 30. This year, he's averaging 31. What year before that? 31. So he went 30, went backwards. He went 31. Went backwards. We was 14.

Starting point is 02:02:17 Oh, my God. We was 14. Oh, my God. He just can't say it. he just can't say it. He just can't say it. Just say it. Not the Bill Belou. Just say it, bro.

Starting point is 02:02:29 Not the Bill Belou. Hey, sell out brothers on the next Jeremy Sessions. Hold on, hold on. Sell out brothers on the next. And they love that white man. Hold on. Sell out brothers on the next. Hey, he ain't white.

Starting point is 02:02:38 No, let's just do it, bro. And he ain't white. He's Canadian. He's Canadian. He's foreign. He's Canadian. This is insane, man. So what we're saying, he aver't white. And he ain't white. He's Canadian. He's Canadian. He's foreign. He's foreign.

Starting point is 02:02:46 This is insane, man. So what we're saying, he averaged 31. The way they crashing out footed Europeans. He averaged 31. I'm not crashing out feet. They love they Europeans. He averaged 31. They were 40 and 42.

Starting point is 02:02:54 You almost. All right. 40 and 42. He averaged 30, one point less. They were 57 and 25. Okay. Championship, right? Championship won?

Starting point is 02:03:02 It was a championship. It was a championship. It was a championship. It was a championship. It was a championship. It was a championship. It was a championship. 40 and 42 he averaged 31 point less they were 57 and 25. Okay championship, right? He went down one less one less point they win they get 17 more games that's more than improvement, okay He's averaging 31 and they only have five loss. What's the average at the end of the year? Or is it 30? No, no, no, no, it's a 31 at the end of the year. What do they have? That's why he went that he went down one point and what did it have so far? What does that the show? It don't matter. It's a regular. It's a regular season. What is that?

Starting point is 02:03:42 During this time frame that we're naming is it says the championship and MVP. Thank you. That's what he's done When he won he had a set he had a so they wanted so while Yoko's is winning the championship we OKC was 40 and 42. Right? They were coming into the season. Denver was ranked one. OKC ranked 14th. Right?

Starting point is 02:04:13 One. 14th. Let them know. And at the end of the season, the 14th team became the best team. Let them know. And how many points did Shea average? And how many points did Shea average? 30 the guy, and how many points did Shay average?

Starting point is 02:04:25 30. Okay, so 30. And the guy who won the MVP, who was supposed to be number one, dropped down. Okay. And they gave it to the... Who lost in the first round? This has nothing to do with the... This is pre...

Starting point is 02:04:38 Playoffs don't matter. Playoffs don't... So they went from preseason one, going back-to-back champs, okay, and they got worse he got the MVP What does this tell the person who improved himself? For the betterment of the team with him with the team 17 games winner. What do you already don't mean it means better luck next year Yes, we expect you to come back out of better luck next next year everybody else do it. Oh everybody else I see that many people do that what I'm saying is why do I need to average what I'm saying is What are you telling this kid his team? He's averaging he's averaging 31 and he they're number one

Starting point is 02:05:16 How many you and he lost five? They only lost five. What do you say? Yeah for you to be be the MVP, you got to average seven more points, six more points, four more points. I got to take away from our team now. The lose. The lose. The reason Jokic is averaging is because his team was losing. But you want to be MVP. His team was losing. You wanted to be MVP takes away from the team.

Starting point is 02:05:36 His team was losing. You thinking about being MVP takes away from the team? Yes. In itself. No. In itself. But Joker don't worry about it because his game speaks for itself. Because you was. No, no, no Joker. Don't worry about it because his game speaks for itself cuz you was that no No, no, no, no, he's very very good. Will you go for your stats your team?

Starting point is 02:05:52 The reason right Joker started averaging that shit cuz his team was losing. Oh What was the right What was their record when he started doing all this? What was their record when he won a championship? They just got back to form. What was his record when he won a championship? We're talking about now. Let's talk about when he won.

Starting point is 02:06:17 Let's talk about when he won. What was his record and his stats when he was a champion? I wish he would have gained rest. Let's talk about the only thing that matters. Y'all talk about shit that don't matter. It don't matter. If you ain't win no chip, if you ain't get no dip,

Starting point is 02:06:32 you can shut them lips. I wish Russ would have died. So 2022-23 season. No, last year. What is their record this year? Where were they at when Yogi started doing all this stuff they team suck face Do he was the only player playing? Well the team sucked

Starting point is 02:06:49 So what you were saying when you start thinking about your numbers the teeth exactly he had to do all of this He was thinking about his numbers No, I'm saying he couldn't have been thinking about what Was Joker focused? We all complained. They were losing, brother. I ain't going to make the point. My bad.

Starting point is 02:07:10 You don't need that. We're losing. My bad. We want you to make your point. They're 6-4. They're 6-4. What is your world? They're 6-4 in the last 10.

Starting point is 02:07:18 OK, see, I'm pretty sure it's what? They lost to the Spurs, bro. Oh, 15 games with the Spurs. Minus the loss to the Bucs in the NBA Cup Championship. I got a question for you, right? I was just looking at something. Uh-oh. It went away.

Starting point is 02:07:31 I was looking at somebody's stats. So when you were playing, right, you were, right? So each year, did you, so when you made the jump, you averaged 19, like, your first when you started? Uh-huh. So you averaged 19 again? The next year, 25. And then you averaged 25 again?

Starting point is 02:07:52 29. OK. What does that mean? You don't want to know what it means. But it was the 30, the 30s. You don't want to know what he's getting at. You don't want to know about that progression he was getting to. If I average 25.

Starting point is 02:08:13 So we expect, so if you was coming back averaging 25, y'all losing the first round. Come back 25, y'all losing the first round. 25, you're losing the second round. So that's, but you didn't do that. But you didn't do that. I averaged 25. No, you went from 19. 19 19 you went from 20 to 26 So you're so you round enough. It was 19.6. No 20

Starting point is 02:08:31 I'm sure I'm not the hope 26 and I went from rounding up. I went from nine 19.5 I say lost we lost the all thing you got better. We lost I upped my production Okay, why to 20 for you because Larry Hughes got hurt and but that's the only reason yes, okay. Oh god We know it's because of somebody I ain't even me. I ain't even me. I'm going. There you are. There you are. Thank you. Thank you. So you're average 25. So hold on. So hold on.

Starting point is 02:09:10 Was Larry there the next year? Hold on. Was Larry there the next year? No. So who did y'all get? Deshaun Stevenson. And who else? So y'all had a better team?

Starting point is 02:09:21 No, we had a worse team from the scoring part, so I had to jump up my scoring again., keep up. It's okay. Yes, right So you the kind of a guy our record was worse, but you came back after 25 again, and we still won more Better the right now when did y'all win more when you average 25 when you have 25 or 25 or 25? So why did you have a 25 again? We lost 20 points score. Huh? We lost a 20-point score. Y'all won more. No, we won more on 25. Why did you average 25 again?

Starting point is 02:09:49 Larry Hughes left. So our team was worse. So I did more production. But y'all won more at 25. Yes. So why didn't you stay at 25? Because our team got worse. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:01 Sir. Yeah. We lost a 20-point score, sir. Tell him. He went to Cleveland. Hey, we lost a 20-point score Why did your 25 is what got y'all wins? You lost somebody.

Starting point is 02:10:30 They lost somebody that averaged a lot of points. Cool. Cool. Cool. Because, you know, I think OKC lost somebody. OKC lost somebody. Go. They lose Barry. They picked up Caruso.

Starting point is 02:10:38 Do your thing, boss man. Do your thing, boss man. You lost somebody. You still have your 25. You were winning. Why didn't I score? Why did I score? Why did you change it? Because did you change it? So let's play hypothetical, right? So let's play hypothetical, right? So let's play hypothetical.

Starting point is 02:10:52 So let's play hypothetical. He was gone. So so let's so let we know larry left like when we know larry left. Yeah, let's play hypothetical. Uh-huh Larry don't get hurt. Uh-huh, right? Y'all lose First round don't make hurt. Uh-huh. Right? Y'all lose. First round, don't make the play, whatever it is. You coming back average 25 again? I wouldn't average 25 if Larry wouldn't. I wasn't the...

Starting point is 02:11:16 So, just so we get the story, just so we get the story, hypothetical. We all know the facts about Larry. No, no, no, no. The facts are... Let's say Larry is healthy. When he was healthy, I was averaging 19. Hypothetically, we all know Larry's healthy when he was healthy. I was averaging 19 On the team's is how Larry Hughes and Antoine Jamison was leading For all-star when Larry got hurt is when I took over ours I started averaging about 28 to 29 that's how I got to 25 for the season and I became the all-star I invited him and said this is

Starting point is 02:11:50 actually your all-star so come on and dim it with me it was his all-star why would I is y'all sound because he was the all-star in the team I wasn't the also ain't no all-star he didn't get picked you know I think it no he didn't get picked so he's not because he was hurt. Well, that's what it's not What you did He said he said he said if Larry don't get every time every would have been me Larry would have been Are y'all That average 30 y'all say somebody average 31 and number one say what I do what I'm saying is that sound cool Let me say if I ever win any piece because I got somebody in front of you doing more. No It don't matter. I'm doing more than you.

Starting point is 02:12:45 And number one, I lost five games, and I averaged 31. It's not most valuable team, Nick. But I averaged 31. It's not most valuable team, Nick. This shit sound crazy. It don't. No, you got to average 33 to get MVP, not 31. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:12:57 Yeah. And you got to be in the sixth seed. And you got to have a level rebound. You got to be in the sixth seed. And you got to have nine assists. You're a point guard, and you only average five assists. I thought you was about winning. I thought you was about winning. Are you about stats?

Starting point is 02:13:08 It's one and two. Are you about stats or winning? Nick, it's one or two. No. It's one and two. What you talking about? Hey, can I ask you a question? I'm doing both.

Starting point is 02:13:14 One and two. That means we're matching up to see who wins. I got 31, and I'm number one. Nick, that means one versus two matches up to see who won, right? You're telling kids they got to average more and lose more. That's crazy to me. If it's one versus one, we're going to match up to see who won, right? You're telling kids they got to average more and lose more. If it's 1v1, we're going to match up to see who the championship is. I can't get my son to tell me, hey, son, you got to average 33 and lose.

Starting point is 02:13:33 What the fuck? No. If I'm winning, I'm winning. Hey, son, why do you want to be the MVP so bad? Who said he wanted to be? Hey, son, why do you want to be the MVP so bad? They asking the question. He ain't never said I want to be MVP. So relax and move around.

Starting point is 02:13:44 That's what I'm doing. And somebody got the crown already. Somebody got the crown already I want to hear me y'all begging it by being a part of the conversation see this is great over here Oh, it's hips. Yeah With the horse with the horse with the horse Making a case they gotta make a case. Hey, we don't want To better your case for it? Yes. It just sounds crazy. To better your case for it?

Starting point is 02:14:09 Absolutely. That's right now. We're talking about at the end of the year. It's Shrek and Donkey. There's a reason Jokic is number two now. Whatever they're talking about, he's two. Yes, right now. He's two.

Starting point is 02:14:23 Right now. Okay, right now. He's two right now Okay right now He can be number two right now we're not talking about right now we're talking about what is all said and done I'm the one that I think Shay should have got it last year. Yes. Yes You're not gonna do nothing but he did team one or two. He's not no. Oh, so we asked the chat There's no even watching him. They do suck? No. So we asked the chat. I don't know if you've been watching him. They do suck. They do suck.

Starting point is 02:14:47 One person's great. It reminds me of the Bucs. I thought they were 9-2. Two players. No offense. Two players is great. Two players is great. The rest of the team suck.

Starting point is 02:14:58 What'd you say? 9-2 what? Sounds like the Lakers. With Westbrook in the starting lineup. So we asked the chat. I don't give a fuck about that. They 6-4 in the last 10. So we asked the chat.

Starting point is 02:15:04 Two of those of them. The Jokic deserved to lineup. So we asked the chat. I don't give a fuck about that. They 6-4 in the last 10. So we asked the chat. Two of those of them. The Yolkens deserve to be MVP. 53% said no. So we got one more thing to talk about before we get into the birthday festivities for our very own Gilbert Arenas. The namesake of the show. Used to be Gil's Arena. Now it is Gil's World.

Starting point is 02:15:16 Thank you to our studio audience. We got some snacks and treats and beverages for you guys lined up. We got to talk some Wimby. So Victor Wimby Yama recently celebrated his 21st birthday and just before he turned 21 played in his hundredth Career game going head-to-head with your kids and dropping 35 and 18 and the Spurs win in that hundred career game Obviously your kids got his get back the next day, but through his first hundred career games this nigga lost to the Spurs That's what I'm saying. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sit another stick. That was a liquor talking go finish do you?

Starting point is 02:15:46 merely a hug do you but yeah, but he had a triple-double though, so So through his first hundred career games win B is averaging 23 points 11 rebounds horses Four blocks every wish in one point still small point two steals per game So in his first hundred career games when B has more total points in LeBron He has more blocks than a king. And he's made more threes than Steph Curry. So we're going to play a game of facts or cap based on the information that we have available.

Starting point is 02:16:13 100 game sample size. Based on his current trajectory, will Wimby be in the GOAT debate? Facts or cap? So based on his current trajectory, Wimby will be in the GOAT debate. Facts or cap? Mr. Cemetery Larry, Iron Man,

Starting point is 02:16:27 Championship Charles, many-name shot. A GOAT debate? Wimby will be in the GOAT debate, fax or cap. Yeah, like you're in the Kobe Jordan. No, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, but that's the GOAT talk. So we're going to work our way around. Wimby will be in the GOAT debate the goat debate facts are cut you think it's done

Starting point is 02:16:49 All right Thanks, okay. Why do you say faction? You're already to go Whimby's already the goat after 100 career game. Hey read off that again. Can you give me what he got read off it again? Never shot he got it More total points in LeBron more total points in LeBron more blocks in the game See any game you see more three's and they're not listening So more total points in LeBron in that hundred game a hundred game hundred career game More blocks in the game in that hundred games and more steps than three curry or more threes and Steph Curry in that hundred game

Starting point is 02:17:23 You put home fuck up your better host fuck up to you get that 100 games. You think he's going to get better? You think he's going to get better? Yeah, we could stand to reason. Okay. He is French though. So the trajectory, you think about actually calculating math, trajectory looks like he's going to surpass pretty much everybody. If you're talking about statistically.

Starting point is 02:17:42 Stat man, stat man as you like to say. He's going to be the GOAT for sure man, stat man, as you like to say. He gonna be the GOAT for sure. Okay, well, let's move on to Kenya. Uh, based on his current trajectory, Wimby will be in the GOAT debate, facts or cap? Can I see you staring at me? Seen that stare before?

Starting point is 02:17:59 Let me see it. But still. Goddamn. One thing for sure, two things for certain. He is in his second year, ain't he? Mm-hmm. He is in his second year. 21 years old. All right. So you abstain?

Starting point is 02:18:14 You abstain from voting, right? Yeah, do you think I'm going in this fucking second year? The numbers are impressive, though. Motherfucker won 12 games last year. 22 and 60 last year they are. Okay. 18 and 17. We had the same conversation about LeBron James when he was drafted number one. No we didn't. I didn't. We did not have the show. I didn't. In 2003. I didn't. It was a twinkle in the sky. So I'm gonna say Cap. So Kenan you will say Cap right now.

Starting point is 02:18:42 It's his fucking second year cap, okay? No, because I look at the history of who his sides play along. Yes. I got to look at it. It ain't on his side. Yeah. Longevity plays a factor in that. Longevity does.

Starting point is 02:19:00 Very important. So let's shift to this side of the account. Mr. B. It depends on how long he plays. It has to. The fuck? Mr. B, based on Wimby's current trajectory, Wimby will be in the GOAT debate. Facts or cap?

Starting point is 02:19:13 Because if y'all could have played, I would. I'm going to say cap. Okay. Just because the GOAT talk, like who's in the GOAT talk, who we talk about as the GOAT, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, those type of guys, so... Kareem. And like Kareem, and like you said, longevity. So, I'm going to say Cap right now. Okay. Nick, let's move on to yourself. Swaggy?

Starting point is 02:19:32 Man, Cap. Not rolling at all. I'm disappointed in the McCants today. So disappointed. You, you my dog. You ain't never go to that way. I tried to text you, like, I'm gonna bring the propane today. Okay, okay, okay. Stay out the coffee. My bad, my bad. I done got hit with a couple of strays today. My bad. I'll tell you.

Starting point is 02:19:54 A couple of strays. You've also said Cap Swaggy. Let's move on to our namesake, Gills World. No longer Gills Arena. For your birthday, January 6th, we have taken the day back. They tried to justify it. I'm telling you. We have brought it back. So through 100 career games, based on his current trajectory, Wimby will be in the GOAT debate.

Starting point is 02:20:12 Facts or cap? First 100 games. Got to say facts. Okay. You were rolling with Wimby. He is European. I mean, when you're talking about the people who are considered the GOATs,

Starting point is 02:20:36 Jordan was still in college at this age. LeBron James, he's in front of, obviously. Kobe, he would be in front of, too, at that age. Same thing with Kareem. Kareem was in college at this age, too. So for those type of guys, where he's at, his numbers, we just got to say yes because he has an advantage because he's in over, he's in the lead before Michael

Starting point is 02:21:09 and Kareem was. And then he was better than Colby at the same age because of when he came in. Oh, no. Come on, man. From there, it just becomes, hold on, it becomes winning. So what are the numbers? What are the numbers?

Starting point is 02:21:23 You can't use that for him and not for Kobe. I hate that. What are the numbers? So in 100 career games. Like, I hate that. He's better than Kobe. At the age. We're talking about the first 100 games.

Starting point is 02:21:33 You know what his first 100 games were. First 100 games. We're saying the first 100 games. I got to hear the numbers real quick. So in 100 career games, he's averaging 22 points. I don't want to hear the average. Oh, you want to hear the total numbers? I don't want to hear the average. Oh, you want to hear the total numbers? I don't want to hear the fucking average.

Starting point is 02:21:46 Okay. What do you want to hear? He says he has more points, total points. I want to know how many total points he has in LeBron. I think it's 2,200. Oh. It could be seven. Like, this is what I mean.

Starting point is 02:21:59 Like, this is... Over the goats? Oh, no. He said he has more points than LeBron. Uh-huh. Right now, after 100 games. 2,290... So, this is 2,273 points before.

Starting point is 02:22:11 2,270 in that first 100 games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tripping. Say it slow, bro. 2,270 in that first 100 games. And how many does LeBron have? What was it like? 2,100. You said 2,000? 2, one hundred or something and Kobe's first

Starting point is 02:22:29 I didn't ask him Why are you complaining but that doesn't mean Can I get the question I get the shit Oh, I want to know the numbers Goats, okay, and you're talking about putting them in there if you look at the trajectory of the three goals He's in front of them at the same time frame Who said so if Kobe came off the bench and his numbers are low he's in front of that So when I'm what we're saying is can saying is, we can put him in the category

Starting point is 02:23:06 compared to anybody else. Can I get my question answered? Can I get my question answered? So, once again, how many points did LeBron have in his first 100 games? Total points, not average. LeBron had 2,181 points.

Starting point is 02:23:21 And how many does Wimby have? 2,270 points in the first half. That's about 100 more points. So 100, that's what I mean. Y'all act like he's blowing.

Starting point is 02:23:28 You said more threes than Steph. How many points, how many threes does Steph need? 930 less minutes than LeBron though in that 100 game.

Starting point is 02:23:36 Okay, that's fine because he was limited. I get that. That's fine. So he played 930 less minutes than LeBron did. Yes, cool, yes. But are y'all looking

Starting point is 02:23:44 at what he's saying though? Look? Yes I hear anything he's saying if these three are the go who said we go about no LeBron Kobe We compare to he said I'm saying I'm asking about he not in the number three. I'm not talking about that. He's two I'm talking about the told he said he had more they have them I'm asking the man about the stats that he read off Yes, he has more blocks than a key. Uh-huh. How many blocks is a team have how many does win be had? That's I'm asking my well, we can look up the numbers. I don't need you to fucking guess. Thank you But it has more so it don't matter what it does. It doesn't matter you motherfucker. I'm asking the question, but he has more Who's moving ain't nobody leaving up. I'm not moving shit

Starting point is 02:24:26 I just want to know the number I just want to know the fucking number college. I don't give a fuck who was in college Who was it? My mom was titties sucking on a mama tit for this. I don't give a fuck I just want to know the numbers. He said they have more blocks in the key. How many blocks is the key now? How many does he have? I said the list that's all I'm asking and maybe for that damn it That's all I'm fucking asking. Okay. Is it a thousand is it 100? Thank you. Thank you. We shot god dang You're talking about not do not hit your to

Starting point is 02:25:08 You're talking about everybody the age the age and what everybody did. And these are the three goals, and he's right there. If the game stopped right now, we can say he's in this category. That's all they're saying. Yes, he's going to need championships. He's going to need wins. He's going to need scoring titles. Of course, to finish off. But at the same 100 games, he's in the trajectory of the GOATs.

Starting point is 02:25:27 And some of these players are older than Wimby, obviously. They went to college. So that first 100 career games are a different age. See, I'm looking at the numbers now, the stats that they gave. Yeah. Thank you. God damn. I gave the information out.

Starting point is 02:25:39 Yes. So I'm still going to say cap. Okay. Still not changing it. He's just still gonna stay cap. Okay Because I have to put longevity Conversation should he be in the goal? I said no current trajectory and I said on this current trajectory when B will be in the GOAT? I said no. Current trajectory. Based on his current trajectory, Wimby will be in the GOAT today. I say no.

Starting point is 02:26:06 Because I have to put longevity in. We don't know how long he's going to be. We're talking about current today. I'm saying no, though. I just don't think he's going to win. If GOAT means greatest of all time. I'm saying yes. Based on those numbers.

Starting point is 02:26:15 Like you say, his trajectory. Based on those numbers, I'm saying yes. Okay, good. Based on those numbers, I'm saying yes. Trajectory. I'm not in doubt about it. So, a team 268 blocks, and that's 100 games. We're going to say yes. And with that, that was a question you would have said yes. So, we got to goat shit, we go say he's going to win multiple championships.

Starting point is 02:26:34 No, we don't know. We got to ask that there. You can't. We're talking. So, now he can't. Isn't that a part of the goat conversation? No, we're talking about the first 100 games. No.

Starting point is 02:26:43 In the first 100 games, they didn't have championships. What are we talking about? He's talking about accolades, though. Totality. He said if he does, if he gets all of these accolades, they're on the way. We're talking about in 100. So all three of them, the three GOATs in the first 100 games,

Starting point is 02:26:56 is he on the same path? Is he on the right path? Yes. Yes. That's what we said. Yeah, that's all we're saying. OK. They didn't have championships at all, NBA. We're just saying, we know what they finished with.

Starting point is 02:27:07 What they started with are they getting the All-Time is what we're talking about. So yes, him, Luka would have been there. Greatest of all time. Greatest of all time. Yeah. Greatest of all time. They had a start.

Starting point is 02:27:18 And he said it on the trajectory of the same start. And how did it finish? We're not talking about the finish. We don't know. That's the order. Yes, we are. We're talking about the first about the finish we don't know yes we are You can't write about the hundred games. We don't know what the fuck. No we know we talk about the stats in the first hundred Yes, so we're saying is this trajectory with the same it's nice Based on its current trajectory when it comes to win

Starting point is 02:27:40 Be a go to go to 40 yard dashes? And even though there's a 100-yard dash. Yeah. If somebody does a 40-yard dash and they say, is he on the trajectory as a 100-yard dash, it'd be this. We can say yes off of his 40-yard dash number. We don't know what the fuck is going to happen in the next 60 yards.

Starting point is 02:27:57 No, we don't. But at the first 40, we're going to say, yeah, this motherfucker look like he could have a 10-9. He could be Hussein Boat. Yes. Okay. Because him and Hussein Boat look the same in the first 40 yards. It's a little like he could have a 10-9 he could be who same but yes Okay, cuz him and who same boat look the same in the first any good motherfucking fall off We don't know that yet because there's a back We're not asking about what is on that in speed could be fucking slow, but we're not

Starting point is 02:28:21 Get out the motherfucking blocks. We're Absolutely asking about the blocks fast. Yes. He's running for that right there asking That's a question about 13 six when he got done we got so many people that did that He just said they said Luca is on the. They said Luka is on the trajectory. They did say Luka was on the trajectory. Is he? Nobody said it. No, everybody's like, yeah, he's on the trajectory. Let's wrap this up.

Starting point is 02:28:51 So when it comes to Winby ending his career in the gold debate based on his current trajectory. 75% say yes. We need that. Stop the cap. Stop the cap. Thank you, Paulo. We're getting it back. It's the first show of the new year, ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 02:29:03 It's Gil's birthday. We are all turnt up here in the arena. So one quick thing before we get into the birthday festivities. What did they say? Yeah, yeah, no. He thought I was going to figure it out. What did they say? What was it?

Starting point is 02:29:13 55% of the chat said that he will be in the Goat Debate. So back in early November, just eight games into his second season, an anonymous scout had this to say about Wimby's game. He said he's absolutely awesome on defense, not impactful at all on offense. He just looked like he's playing without a whole lot of direction. So we talked about it at that point. But in Wimby's 22 games, since those comments went public,

Starting point is 02:29:36 he's averaging 28 points, 11 rebounds, four assists, four blocks on 50, 39, 86 shooting splits. So when we talked about those comments the scout made, Nick, you said that W when B was a lunchtime Hooper Needed to develop a go-to movie help his game excel even more as when B graduated from being a lunchtime Hooper He's the freshman he's on fresh You prove my point there. He's OK.

Starting point is 02:30:05 No. This motherfucker averaging 23, 10, 4, and 4 blocks. I ought to put LeBron in the basket. And he's on JV. I would have never called LeBron or Kobe a lunchtime baller. That's what I'm saying. But Kobe was a lunchtime baller. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 02:30:18 In the first 100 games. Look, man, he asked me a question. We're talking about the first 100 games. What the fuck going on? That's what I'm saying. He was in middle. He was a start. He still, nigga. He was in your start the first 100 games. What the fuck going on? That's what I'm saying. He was in middle. He was a start.

Starting point is 02:30:26 He was in your start with 96. Wasn't Kobe an All-Star again? Yeah, I'm about to say, what are you talking about? The little Laker boys were referred to by him. What are you talking about? He was a lunch- Don't ever say Kobe was a lunch- He was a lunch-

Starting point is 02:30:34 Waller, man. I thought he was a Kobe Bryant fan at some point in your life. You say he's a lunch-time Waller is absolute shit. The first 100 games. Y'all know what y'all talking about. Kobe was an All-Star. The first 100 games. I thought he was a Kobe Bryant fan at some point in your life.

Starting point is 02:30:42 You're crazy, bro. You say he's a lunch- He'd be losing it with Kobe shit. The first 100 bro. And you say he's a lunchtime baller. He'd be losing with Kobe shit. The first 100 games. Y'all know what y'all talking about. Kobe was an all-star. The first 100 games.

Starting point is 02:30:50 Kobe was an all-star. Because he got voted in by the fans. That's how good he was. That's how good he was. Coming off the bench. That picture? Have it read. So the first year, he averaged seven.

Starting point is 02:31:03 Okay, he came off the bench. That's 71 games. That means 30 more games. What do you think he averaged if he averaged seven. Okay, he came out the mid. That's 71 games. That means 30 more games, which you think he averaged if he averaged 15. He was a lunchtime baller, but he was a fan favorite back then. Right? So I don't know why y'all getting y'all feeling. Because he averaged a whole 12 in his first 100 games. I'm an all-star.

Starting point is 02:31:21 Stop pretending. I'm an all-star. Hey, all-star. Stop pretending. Kobe had an all-team. He was a fucking lunch all-star. Hey, an all-star. Stop pretending. Kobe had it all. He was a fucking lunchtime baller. He had his 20. He was a lunchtime baller.

Starting point is 02:31:30 He had his 20. Get over here. Get over here. Get over here and watch the NBA all-star game. Play the NBA all-star game. Kobe, only rookie out there with the big dogs. Kobe wasn't out there with the big dogs. Yes, he was.

Starting point is 02:31:43 No, he wasn't. He had seven points. He was an all-star. That was his sophomore year. That was't out there with the big dogs. Yeah. Yes, he was. You know, he wasn't. He had seven points. He was an all-star. That was his sophomore year. That was his second year. What did Michael Jordan say? Hey, hey, hey. Second year.

Starting point is 02:31:51 What did Michael Jordan say? He said, you got to watch out for that little Laker boy. That was the second year. That little Laker boy. That little Laker boy. Hey, hey, hey. Little Laker boy. Hey, hey, hey.

Starting point is 02:32:00 That ain't even worth a good. He wouldn't come after me. You got to watch out for that little Laker boy. That was the second year. That was the second year. That little Laker boy. LeBron's second year to me. Watch out for that little Laker boy. That was the second year. That was the second year. That little Laker boy. LeBron's second year, he had a 29. That little Laker boy.

Starting point is 02:32:08 Mm. Watch out for that little Laker boy. Kobe, I was 15. LeBron had a 29. Kobe, three years, won a championship. LeBron, six, seven years, he won a championship, right? So Gil, Whitby. Three, he won three of them from.

Starting point is 02:32:24 He said he called him a lunchtime baller. He's still at the lunch. He's still here. 23, Whitby. He said he called him a lunchtime baller. He's still at the lunch. He's still here. 23-10. He's not there. He's not there. He's not there. I'll let you know what we're talking about.

Starting point is 02:32:33 No, he's still there. Who? The league just sweat more. He just sweat more. He's still there. 23-10, 4-4. He's still there. I will be a lunchtime baller.

Starting point is 02:32:42 I'm fucking up, baby. I will be 23-10, 4 23, 10, 4, and 4. Because when you call me a real NBA player, what the fuck you think I'm going to be averaging? What's that? What's that? What's that? Pop, pop, pop, 35, 12, 15, and 15.

Starting point is 02:32:56 I might start averaging 15 blocks, Ron. That's what a real NBA player is. If I'm averaging, you calling me a lunchtime ball, I'm going to be a double-double with four blocks. Cool. What does everybody else average if you calling me a lunchtime baller. That's what a real NBA player is. Double, double. With four blocks. Cool. You ain't got to have 35. What does everybody else average if you're not a real basketball player? Right.

Starting point is 02:33:10 Let me know what a real NBA player is. Oh, we're lunchtime ballers. Everybody else is lunchtime ballers. Ladies. And you are the star. Oh, that made so much fucking sense, man. Hey, he's losing it, ain't he? He's losing it.

Starting point is 02:33:31 No, he's talking about you, man. No, he's talking about LeBron. You know he gonna try to bring it back to LeBron. LeBron averaging 24. I'm not talking about LeBron this year, I told you. So don't get me like this. Man, get off that, bro. I'm friending.

Starting point is 02:33:43 Get off that rap thing. I'm friending Dino. Happy birthday, motherfucker. I'm friendin. I'm off that rap. Well, I'm friendin. Happy birthday motherfuckers. Come on. Hold on Do we cake preemptive we don't I do Come on goddamn with the damn sparkly bring one Yeah, that's how she liked that first the second second sparkler, the first sparkler went out. Like I said. Hey, it's all good. We have some technical difficulties with the sparkler, but it is your birthday, Gil.

Starting point is 02:34:12 So last year we had a little situation with Melly and the birthday cake. So we did not allow Melly to give you the cake. Come on. Nah, this is my good shit. This is my good shit. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Gilbert. Happy birthday, Gilbert.

Starting point is 02:34:24 Happy birthday, Gilbert. Happy birthday, Gilbert. Happy birthday, Gilbert. Happy birthday, Gilbert. It's my Lord out look pretend like it pretend like it's smoking blow it out. I'm gonna just be honest man. I Don't feel in my soul. It don't feel right. Don't do it. No, no, not that. Don't throw the cake, Gil. You see the production and the cake they made for, how many birthdays have we had here? Eat the cake, Gil.

Starting point is 02:34:56 You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. He threw the cake on you last time. Remember that. Do not throw the cake. Appreciate it. We had the sparkles.

Starting point is 02:35:07 We appreciate you. Huh? I got to go somewhere else. And Gil, since you already know that we like to do things differently in the arena, we got one more surprise for you. Special treat. So you've told the story before about how when the Wizards tried to put a curfew on your team during a road trip, you found a loophole by bringing the strip club to the hotel.

Starting point is 02:35:26 Uh-oh. So with that in mind, we're bringing the shake club to the arena. A blessing for a blessing. Nah, hell no. It ain't going down like that. Oh! Trippin'. Rashad! Hit the music, please. That fucking yam!

Starting point is 02:35:43 Hit the music. Where the music please

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