Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena GOES WILD Over The End Of The NBA Season

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Gil's Arena GOES WILD Over The End Of The NBA Season as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the end of the NBA Season and break down the road to the NBA Finals though the NBA Playoffs. They... tip things off by reacting to the not so shocking news out of the Doc Rivers era is officially over for the Milwaukee Bucks as the polarizing head coach agreed to step down after a turbulent season and tenure in Cream City and discuss how much blame Doc deserves for the Bucks struggles during his time as head coach. They also break down where the Bucks go from here as they're stuck paying 3 fired head coaches while navigating the turbulence of Giannis Antetokounmpo's public divorce with the franchise. Next, they preview the first playoff series for the San Antonio Spurs & Victor Wembanyama as they break down what the french phenom will endure during his first taste of NBA Playoff action and debate if the Spurs shot themselves in the foot by rolling over in their final game against the Denver Nuggets, setting up a daunting road to the NBA Finals as Wemby & The Spurs will have to take down the OKC Thunder & Nikola Jokic's Nuggets if they want to advance all the way to the Championship Round. They then react to LeBron James capping off his 23rd season as the Los Angeles Lakers' number 1 option and discuss how this Lakers team will fare in the playoffs without Luka Doncic & Austin Reaves for the opening round. Finally, they give their take on Kevin Garnett returning to to Minnesota to reunite with the Minnesota Timberwolves and break down the NBA's potential new laws to curb tanking. PLEASE give us a LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Swaggy P, Kenyon Martin & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:58 Doc Rivers FIRED In Milwaukee 0:15:43 Wemby & Spurs Played Themselves 1:01:25 LeBron & The Lakers Playoff Chances 1:45:08 Play In Tournament Predictions 2:01:16 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Welcome back to Gills Arena, presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! Post season is here playing. Kicks off tonight, ladies down. We're excited? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's post-season. That's time of it is.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Post season. Yeah, it's the best time. I don't like the play-ins, but. It's the losers' cup. Yeah, the best of the losers play tonight. And then, hopefully get in. And hopefully get in. Yeah, but still, yeah, man, you're like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:01:03 9th 10 C man unless you tie with 8 10 shouldn't be in the question I've been saying it's 10 shouldn't be in the question only way 9 should be in the question if 8 and 9 got the exact same record 10 you fucking suck
Starting point is 00:01:19 10 you fucking suck right yeah dead ass yeah like historically they all kind of tie right but still 10th if you 10th no you're nobody's time with 10th 10th is
Starting point is 00:01:33 9, 2. Probably 11. It's 8. Game apart. 5 under the teams under you. Heen Hornets is a game apart. See, that's what I'm saying. But they're a game apart, though.
Starting point is 00:01:44 So the difference is apart. So. But it's the postseason. Suns, Blazers. Yeah. Like this. Warriors, 37 wins. It's usually the West Coast teams
Starting point is 00:01:55 that have the problem. Just who you just said? I don't mean to cut you all get. Just who you said. 37 wins, right? We won 50 games when they was with the Nuggets. We were the fucking 8 seed. Damn.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's why I have a problem with this shit. We won 50 games, dog. We were 8 seed. That's a lot. Like that's what you're 7th, right? Your sons, you have 45 wins. Right, sir.
Starting point is 00:02:26 And Golden State has 37 wins, but we're playing for. Why am I playing in the same bracket with that? They're playing for the seven. No, what I'm saying is, and Portland's 42. Why, why are we playing for my spot? I have 45 win. You have 42. Why are we playing for the seven spot?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Like, how does that even make sense? You lost more games than you won this year, bro. Like, what the fuck are we playing? Like, what are we playing for? Adam Silver, if you're watching. We're playing for my spot. Yeah, that's crazy. 82 games for me.
Starting point is 00:03:02 to get to set. That's why they did it so we can have this time. And you're a, and you get to play for my spot. And if you beat me, now I got to play for your spot with someone else. They had a worse record than you. Guy, make it make sense. Well, win the game. And you get to go.
Starting point is 00:03:21 No, but no, no. Top eight. But no. But no. That's the idea. If you saw the server. If they had to get a player. What I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Sure. Seven should never be a question, though. So, like, so 37, let's say Golden State wins, Phoenix lose. Seven. Right? So that's 45 versus 42. Then the Golden State beats Sons. Then you have a team who's been horrible all year.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Get to the A spot, and your team who's been solid all year is out of the playoffs. Go-Go and lose by King's Ransom in the first. I mean, you can't be solid. No, no, no. I mean, I mean, it ain't good enough. But I just, like, tanking, right? Yeah. If you're a Golden State, right now you're a lottery, you get a lottery pick.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Regardless. Why would I want to make the playoffs? I think Steve Kerr shares those sentiments. Yeah, why would I want to get, why do I want to get to the eighth spot? Because you have a chance. Yeah, it does. It don't deter the lottery. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Dallas, remember? Yeah, because I think they. Dallas didn't make the playoffs. They'll make the, they'll get the locked-in picks. They get the locked-in picks. They don't go to the lottery. Oh, they don't go to the championship. So if you finish 10th, if you make the playoffs, then I think you jump to that eighth spot.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You know what I'm saying? And the lottery stand? No, so you just get the-outary. You're outside the lottery. So you get 14. So if you're 8th, you get 14. If you're 10th, you're in the lottery. So why would you want to be a lottery team all year long, then get yourself out of the lottery?
Starting point is 00:05:00 Why would I do that? What then Dallas do? I mean, it's the challenge. They didn't make the playoffs. I'm not wild. But they was in the plane. Unless you made a trade with somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And you make the playoffs. So if you make the playoffs, you're into one of those locked picks. Yeah, you don't get the lottery. You're not in the lottery. It would make sense for the Warriors to want to get to the playoffs. To lose. To lose. Like Dallas last year.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Remember I said, if Dallas tries to make the playoffs, all this lose in all year, they don't get a lottery pick. They would have got 14. They would have got 14. They would have gotten 14, 15, 16. 15, 15, 15. Yeah, 15. 14 teams don't.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So the fact that they didn't make it, they got a chance to get the number one pick. Oh, so you're saying you get the eight, you're outside of the. You make the playoffs. So you're in top eight. If you make the playoffs, your pick start from 14. If you make the playoffs, right, you're in the top eight, your pick start at 14. Unless you've made a trade, unless you're taking all season. Unless you're Oklahoma City.
Starting point is 00:05:59 They would actually have a chance. So now, if you're 10th in the West, they make the playoffs, then they don't, they're not in the lottery. And that's, unless you're not in the lottery. And that's, and they have. They have. They have made trades and all this. You got high picks. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I mean, too. But that's what I said. I said, you know, it's still a tank. Why would I, and I remember I said, I said, why if I'm 10th? And I've been 10th all year, why would I even want to win if I don't get no benefit? Well, are they tanking. And if I'm a thing. I don't think they're taking.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I think they're coming back. And then I think they're actually like, we can still make a run. I don't think they've been tanking. I think step coming back for the playoffs is like we can still make a run. But I think he's going to be on the minister's restriction. With him. With him.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's still the Warriors, right? They're always going to have championship pedigree, right? They're always going to think it. I mean, if they get in, I mean, you can't tell them. That's like the six-year-old checking the club, though. She might think she's still bad. She's the owner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:52 But you can't the Warriors do something in the off-season? I mean, but can't the Warriors do something in off-season? No. Like what? You can still do something in all season. They can make a move trying to y- You can do. whatever you want an off season. And Jim's still in the book.
Starting point is 00:07:02 If you lose, you can possibly get a number one pick and still do whatever you want in the summer. Right? It's the same thing with Dallas. Dallas had the team, right? And they end up getting a number one pick. So whatever they want to do in the summer, they still do it.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So you're saying they should lose the play in? I said, what is the point? Of winning the play in? No, you've been, I got this million. Yeah, I got this million dollars in my pocket all year for me to fuck it up on one game. For me to lose it? For me to go put it on red.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Right, right, right. You're like, I'm not going to jeopardize it now. Shit. Dremband shoot 23s. Exquisite cover. We need to make sure we to win. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woo-WWW. I'm merely a host, Josiah Johnson.
Starting point is 00:07:46 We got NBA legend, Arc Raiders, most wanted Gilbert Arenas here with him. They got T-shirts now. I see y'all out here living, Gil. Huh? I don't know nothing about Arc Raiders, but I see. You got a T-shirts? People don't like you on that. They're trying anything, man.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I imagine. somebody to come get somebody and he keeps failing. That is a horrible call. The refund. Be the next to go. We're doing my NBA champion of the world swaggy P. Nick Young. What's what's looking at?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Huh? What you've been looking at me like this? I mean, bro, you're just like a side of a freeway. Just tagged up. Just tagged up dirty. Just like the side of a freeway. You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:25 You just, who said is this? Who said is this? What's such? I love Hollywood. A trade. Damn. A side of a freeway. He said that's a group of people, like the side of the freeway.
Starting point is 00:08:41 You know, everybody just be tagging this. I was about to compliment the fans. I was right. Representing tough crowd, car care, and country club. Remember, we got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings back here with. Oh, ho, ho, ho! Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Taking gloves. All right now. Taking gloves. All right, man. O.J. did it. Who can't wear it? You can't wear it. Let's see if it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 But it don't go on the hand, though, for him. You can't even go. J.C.'s. took it yesterday. You can't wear it. The glove does fit. On this side of the couch, we got a distinct general. See, I was a part of that, so I'm just why I'm a little, you lost something? My glove as well.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I gifted J.C. the glove. He goes out and we lose the motherfucker like. Oh, so that's the Richard Keynes' glove? Yeah. I gave the J.C. Gifts the two wins. And yeah, he go out and lose the bitch. We lost about what, four?
Starting point is 00:09:42 Mm-hmm. Yeah, man. We have the glove list distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff. Former number one pick, Kenyon Martin. The glove has been re-gifted. Okay. PTSD, when you see your glove now at another? See, the thing is, see, I didn't bring the one that...
Starting point is 00:10:00 But, um... So I got one of his... But they both came in and were matching gloves, though. Both had red ones. They look cute. Look, cute. There's a motherfucker. I still got them look like a team.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Came right here to lose. I've been to have his glove on my bag. So just, I'm not the one to brag. Okay. But they, yeah, they kicked their ass yesterday, though. All right. Ain't even bull. He ain't even bullshit.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Him and Rob. Rob Ultra. Legend? No, Rob had a few good shots. Brandon had a birdie yesterday. He had a birdie yesterday. I'm hooping, bro. I'm telling you, I'm getting nice, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I think we both are. Me and him, he witnessed my birdie last week. Nick can't come out because he got his club stolen. For sure, he has some knives. They stole, somebody stole his club. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if nine or ten. He hit the ball out of bounds a couple times. Listen, it's not a good round if you don't.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Listen, if we ain't, hey, both of us, hey, he went into my birdie last week. last week and I saw here just today so it's you're getting there. Last but not least we have the man they call Cemetery Larry NCAA champion of world Dr. Rishaw McCamp's PhD taking it way back the exquisite throwback the matching ad die
Starting point is 00:11:10 that was easy double sound effects the only man in the game with double sound effects ladies and gentlemen you will not see those on any other show I gotta add some to it though I'm a trans I got to keep you going. You got to add something to it now though. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 The most... No, the thing I sent you. Oh, the most hated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Cam Newton and the boys. They voted me to one of... Top three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Top three, maybe the top three most hated. Most hated podcasters. The most hated. Diabolical hated. Be good or be good at it. He just made the list. He just me. He just me.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I ain't even been trying. Shit. Now I get to try. I'm going for the top spot now. I'm going for the top spot now. Fuck out of here. Who did they got a number one? Jason Woodlock?
Starting point is 00:11:56 I mean, Whitelot. James Woodlock? Who's number two? Stephen A. Stephen A was two. Pat Benner, a fool? Stephen A's number two from his podcast or? Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Most hated. Just most hate it. So they said podcasters. Yeah. So they said most hated podcasts. They're just saying, niggas they don't like. So it was just like, we don't like these nets. Because I don't, yeah, that's number.
Starting point is 00:12:21 He says, I don't know if it's to be on his podcast. Yeah. It was most hated podcast. I saw that shit. I was like, being real good. Hey, my nigga made the list. Definitely made the list. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Cam, thank you. I know how you feel now. Shit. You feel like everybody else. Put them in the book. Well, we got a lot to discuss. Here's what's cracking in Gil's arena today. Doc Rivers and the bucks officially parted ways.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Damn. Because of the work season and more than a decade. Where is Milwaukee? go from here. LeBron ended the regular season as the Lakers number one option and Western Conference Player of the Week. Will King James keep the purple
Starting point is 00:13:00 and go to float until Lucas return? Or ask a question mark, can you? It's a question mark. Okay? It's possible. Anything is possible. Hoping possibility work together. They shut DGs down, I told you. And the Spurs will likely have to go through
Starting point is 00:13:16 Denver and OKC. They want to reach their first final since 2014. What are realistic expectations for Wimby in his first career postseason. But before we get to all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Underdogs available in most states, including Texas, California, and Florida. New customers get $50 and bonus entries when they play just $5. And to celebrate the start of the NBA playoffs, Underdog has launched a special offer
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Starting point is 00:14:18 So we're going to start out there in Milwaukee. The Doc Rivers era officially over with the announcement coming Monday, Rivers stepped down as Bucks head coach. Doc took over as Bucke's head coach in January of 2024 after Adrian Griffin got the boot, had a record of 97 and 103 during his tenure, which included two first round exits and missing the postseason entirely this year after going 32 and 50, finishing 11th in the east. Rivers did manage to lead the Bucks to an NBA Cup championship, though, in 2024, neither here nor there, but it is a, it is a manner.
Starting point is 00:14:50 It is. It counts. When the same release Monday, River said the following, I have truly loved my time in Milwaukee, coming back to where I got my start to a city that has always embraced me has been a privilege. I'm disappointed that things did not turn out the way. Any of us hoped, but I am deeply grateful for this experience. The relationships built an unwavering support
Starting point is 00:15:10 from our fans and the community. Milwaukee will always mean a lot to me, and this chapter will hold a special place in my heart. So River signed a deal worth approximately $40 million, back when he was hired in 2024 will be paid out for the final season remaining on this contract. According to reports, the Bucks and Rivers are discussing
Starting point is 00:15:28 the possibility of him moving to an advisory role with the team. You're going to earn this money, Doc. We're paying, you got to show up and do something. Come hollered at the B-mo Club. Writing was on the wall this season where reports Rivers had lost the locker room. So, Doc, third coach departways with the Bucs since 2023, joining Mike Boottenhozer and Griffin.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Mr. B, we're going to start with you. Are you a very tapped in connected to the Milwaukee community, Mr. Bucks and Six. What's your reaction to Doc Rivers stepping down as Bucks head coach? I mean, like you said, the riding was on the wall. Probably should have happened sooner, but, you know, Milwaukee, I felt like just did it the right way, I guess, because he's up a Hall of Fame coach this year. But, you know, it was his time there. The team just quit on them.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Players, you know, the adjustments, everything. You know, I mean, you heard it from the city. Everybody was complaining about it. So, but like I said, the writing was on the wall, and it should have happened sooner. But, you know, Doc could still be Hall of Fame coach and that's all you can say on that. Andrew, the Hall of Fame this year, I think there was some, obviously, four show out of shadowing the last weeks or so. He said he wanted to spend more time with his grandchildren, go to Grandparents Day for
Starting point is 00:16:45 his seven grandchildren, multiple Grandparents Day. the docket, no word still, if he'll take that advisory roller if you're just going to chill out. But Gil, what's your reaction to the Bucks and Doc Rivers parting ways after two and a half seasons? They parted ways when he got hired. What? It's like drinking poison. I mean, the person who gives it to you, they know you dead. You just dead men walking.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Have y'all live in your previous time dated a girl who dated someone really rich? Right? It's like trying to date one of the Kardashians right now. There's nothing
Starting point is 00:17:38 you're going to do that's going to impress them. No, no, not when you had it. That was broken. That she was broke then. She was broke then. I'm talking about trying to not. You know what I mean? You used the original. I'm talking about trying to triggering. No, no, I'm talking about. We just like, kill. trying to date Kim now, right?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Like, how do you top the last people? So that means they're not impressed. So before you get there, Doc, we have a champion, and then 30 and 13. When you come in there, you're coming with high standards. Right? So what was you going to do? What record did you think you were going to? to have for that locker room to be impressed or anyone to be impressed.
Starting point is 00:18:28 They were in third place, third place when you got there. It was just downhill moving from there. 30 and 13, they're moving like clockwork. They fired a champion coach and 30 and 13. There was nothing you was going to do to not get fired. Like there was nothing. They fired two winning coaches. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:53 17 and 19 in that first season. Yeah, yeah, 79. But what I'm saying is, no matter what he did. He could have went 30 and 13. It didn't matter. What you're doing, we, it was here before you got here. So there was, there was no reason for him to go get that job unless he had security there. I mean, we did have ties with Marquette.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I mean, I'm sure he probably just wanted to go out. If it was just, if it was just a money grab, cool. But, you know, he was always. going to get fired. He was only going to last two years. That was really the most, unless somehow you won a championship. But that team, that team wasn't built to win the championship. We just always looked at the production of Janus. Now, you can blame Doc if you want to, but at the end of the day, they fired three coaches. So before you get the Doc, Bud got fired. Why? Griffin got a job. He got fired.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Why? So using Doc name to say, oh, he lost a locker room. What did the other two coaches? Did they lose the same locker room, too? Because they got shipped the fuck off too. So in reality, Doc should be happy. There ain't no point at your age you go through this bullshit that's going on in that locker room. Because if we heard, if we listened to what Janice was saying earlier, he was saying,
Starting point is 00:20:28 it earlier. The team, they're not buying in. They don't want to pass the ball. He was saying it earlier, but because he wasn't playing, watch out, dog. It's us right now. You know, in the locker room, man, sometimes there's more losers than there are winners.
Starting point is 00:20:46 And, you know, sometimes the losers take over a locker room if, you know, if the winners are not playing. And, you know, that seemed that's what happened here. So, you know, I'm, I'm I'm going to step down before you fire me. Part ways. We're going to part ways, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Swaggy, let's shift over to you. I was in Milwaukee recently. Your family still looking for you. That's how you were doing. Tell them everything. Part of ways. It's going well. Part of ways.
Starting point is 00:21:13 What's your reaction to the bucks? And, Doc, partying ways. After two and a half seasons. Well, I think, well, Doc, there's been a lot of bad media around him, for sure. you've seen but Milwaukee I don't think
Starting point is 00:21:30 they had the team that was designed to win in the first place with injuries with Yannis in the media that he's getting traded
Starting point is 00:21:38 every other week or he don't want to be there or he wants something else I think this shouldn't be it for Doc if you want to he can I think he did enough he's a Hall of Famer
Starting point is 00:21:51 but at this rate coaches getting fired like left and right now. So that's a tough job. You got a roach on your cup. I was wonder what kind of creature that was. That is a roach. That's a real roach.
Starting point is 00:22:05 That came from you. Sawed you to take that damn freeway pants, man. Why are you moving around? Nick, I haven't seen roaches since that was Bray, babe, babe. I never had a roach. You look like
Starting point is 00:22:18 candy, man. I'm going to come get this cup. Did somebody remove the cup? That's a real roach. That was a real way. It was a real run. You got something you want to tell me? Man, what?
Starting point is 00:22:31 I don't want to deal with you, my man. The roaches coming out of your park. I ain't seen that since that was real. You just came from Milwaukee. You were there playing video games at your boy house, and the roaches come across the screen, y'all. You act like you don't know. The rogden.
Starting point is 00:22:43 All right, well, roaches a silo shift over this side of the couch. Canyon, Doc Rivers. That roach was straight in the mug. A drink. In need of hydrate. You got this cup. You got this cup. This gentleman's, they got a ratatooy.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Got a ratatooy? Brooch over it. He was mixed. That's a man, tell him, sent his ear, say this. Yeah, man, it's giving them all of them takes and things. Hey, don't leave home without me, then. You're a funny, nigger for a ratatooie. I'm supposed to be in the hat.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Nigger, how don't get on the cup? First roach, it was a real. I see, boy, you're the funny thing. It is right there on the cup. Oh, shit. It's on the other side. You did that. It went down.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Let's shift over to this side of the county. Can you, what are your thoughts on Doc Rivers and the Bucks, parting ways after two and a half seasons, 97 and 103 records, I believe with 3 and 8 in the playoffs, did not make the postseason this year. Bad juju and Milwaukee, man, from how they did Bud. how they did Chris Middleton
Starting point is 00:24:00 I think how they did Chris Middleton was messed up when things he wasn't the healthiest and he was still trying to play when Yonis went down in the playoffs he was out there playing on one leg
Starting point is 00:24:13 but yeah no it's just some situations man that you make as an organization that can come back to haunt you the dame thing didn't work out I understand what they were trying to do, but it's just two contrasting styles of basketball with him and Janice.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They never got to figure it out on the floor, and then injuries got in the way. So that was a failed experiment. I just think Doc was the wrong coach for where Janice was in his career. I think Adrian Griffin Griffin probably was more fitting, but I don't, whatever. However, that transpired. transpired quickly. 30 and 13. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:00 So 45 games, not even 45 games to that relationship. Things happened, right? The team looked very happy after that, after he initially got booted. Yeah. Dance circles and shit before the game. Well, I could see, never been around Agent Griffin, but played against him. I know how he plays the game. Just, you know, kind of like J.B. Biggest have maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'm assuming, right? Call it how it is, not cutting any corners with guys. Probably rub some guys the wrong way. I think you need that in order to be successful at time. But yeah, no, man, we'll see what's next for the books. I think this is just the beginning of change. We all know the things that's been transpiring around Janus and that situation of his future there or not.
Starting point is 00:26:00 We'll see with that, but yeah, no, man, it's, it was time. Yeah, you just hear the complaints and different things coming out the locker room. Dock the players, players, doc, this. Yeah, it's, it was time, bro. So it is what it is at this point. You get to go spend time with his grandkids like he stated. Grandkids, not a bad, but not bad time for where you are in your coaching tenure, right? You've been doing it for a long time.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And wasn't he in an advisory role when he took over the job? They brought him on December 2023 to help consult. So you don't think, I, no, whoever's making it easy to say, no, that ain't the move. He was good consultant. The team was 3 and 13. He told me five, dude. Yeah, told me five. He's 30 and 30 shit, hey, I think you should find.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that ain't working. Yeah, that ain't working. That ain't working. That ain't working. That ain't working. They said the players didn't like them. Yeah, it was a terrible coach. They said it was a terrible coach and the players didn't like them.
Starting point is 00:27:04 So terrible coach gets your 30 and 13? Said the talent was doing it. Well, that's, hey, cool. Hey, let the talent keep talented and you keep motherfucking and seem to have been working out. Up to that point. But, hey, I don't know much. Let's move on to Dr. McCants. The book is out.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I dig. The pen is inked. You talk to him. What are your thoughts on Dr. rivers and the bucks parting ways after two and a half seasons? Twofold. I want to touch on one, the history that we're talking about now as far as Bud Griffin and now Doc, right?
Starting point is 00:27:48 I honestly think that it had nothing to do with the organization when Boone Houser got fired. I feel like that was also a player-generated, prompted decision. decision from A to B. Any player in particular? I'm just saying. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:07 We go ahead and cook it a little bit. Adrian Griffin gets there, right? Decisions were made to get another certain players to come down and add some type of value to the roster. After losing in the first round to Miami. Said player played three games out of that series, they lost 4-1. Coach gets fired. The championship coach we talk about gets fired. No one said that he lost the locker room.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Nobody said that he didn't. We don't know. But he's gone. Then they make offseason trades. Bring in Dane. This is said to be something that's needed for said guys who won't change to happen for us to get back to our championship ways. Adrian Griffin comes in and he leads you to a 30 and 13.
Starting point is 00:29:02 situation. New roster. Everybody should be happy we're winning, but we're not. Fire Adrian Griffin. Someone is in the background where Adrian Griffin is coaching saying certain things about what's happening in the locker room and why the guys feel something about this 30 and 13 record. Why is it 30 and 13? Why are we mad? Why are we not happy? Offense not clicking. God's not getting their numbers the way they're supposed to. I don't know. We don't know. Get them out of here. Said person comes down from this position to go into this position. Now he's coaching.
Starting point is 00:29:46 With $40 million. Go $17 and 19, do we say? 17 and 19. So we had a expectation of him to bring in his winning pedigree to this organization and help them get back to prominence. Hey, Doc, we've seen what you could do with this type of talent, take us there. All right? Didn't happen. Let's just say
Starting point is 00:30:11 mid-season, Doc did say, you know, it's hard to come in mid-season and turn things around and get things where it's supposed to go. All right, Doc, we'll give you this grace. We're going to wait to next year so you can get to, you get rid of Dame, you leave Janus on an island. Here we are. I call it Kamra. This is the book of what's up, Doc. Like, Buzzard. the bunny in them. The snake comes down. The ego shows itself. He says, I got a resume too.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I got stats too. How you lose the locker room. But how is the locker room lost three different coaches? It can't be the organization. They just get the information. So somebody's saying something to the organization to get rid of these guys. And now I feel like this one guy is going to get out of this get out of this thing unscathed.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I've been a big fan of this guy, big supporter, but now that I'm seeing the right on the wall, I don't know whose fault it is between the snake dock and the karma that he's going to get based on what he's done to be put in this position to get this organization to look the way it looks now, but then you got the leader, the top guy, the guy who's supposed to be taking us there.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Ain't nothing been pleasing him. So at this point, it's what are we doing and who's going to be the one to blame? Because there's the elephant in the room, three different coaches. You got Dame, you lost Dame. I feel like Chris wasn't doing enough for you. Had to get rid of Chris. Got rid of Drew. A lot of things happened where you got a lot of different things in your favor that didn't pan out.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And now it's like, well, what do we do now? You just jump ship? Now you jump ship because it's a small market. I'm not buying it. Not buying it. So whether it's Doc or I think what's his name, Janice. Somebody's to blame. And it's one of them two.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I'm not going to put it on the organization. Yeah, I forgot Drew. Yeah, that idea. Yeah, Drew, too. Throw him and Kristen are together. Helped y'all win the championship and y'all. Yeah. So nobody would have trade Drew for Dane Leonard if they could?
Starting point is 00:32:33 I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would. You would have? If that. Just thinking about it, coming off a championship, I would not have. No, they didn't come off a championship a couple of years before.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Long couple of years. But it was like, what, two years? It was two years in a move? It said it got two years ago. Two years of move? They went 2021. 2022. Well, yeah, 2022, 2023 was the year booting them loss.
Starting point is 00:32:59 They lost in Miami. They won 2020. They won 2021. They won't 2021. They lost to the Celtics and the semis the next year. Yeah. But they were still, I believe, what, third? Drew Holiday.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Third. Then they lost at the heat when they were first. And then Yonis wasn't healthy, though. Yonis only played three of those games. So I'm not, I wouldn't, I'm not trading Drew Holliday for Dame Lillard. No. Okay. Not at that point.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I just, right. Not, they'm a hell of a player, but what Drew does, he proved it again, right? Yeah, he definitely went over there and won. Like, he proved what he, his most thing. The reason why? Because they were trying to hit the panic. They were hitting the penalty. Yeah, because Yonis wanted more.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yonis wanted more. He was saying it more and more and more and more. So, I mean, to get a top 75 player, Dame to come to more, that's big. Like, that's big, man. I get why they, I understand why they did it. Yeah, I understand why they did it, yes. But I look at the type of total basketball player that Drew Holiday is and the leader that he is and everything that he brings to the table.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I would prefer that over what Dane brings to the table. And they look better on paper. Like, that's a, Dame a hell of a basketball. It looks better on paper. They do. Top 75. I'm not taking anything off. his plate. He's saying overall, overall, better basketball player.
Starting point is 00:34:13 So they're just like totality. So just hear me out, right? Just same situation, right? Us in Denver, AI, and Mello, right? We're losing the first round. 25 apiece. With Chuck. Chuck, hell of a basketball player. I love him to debt. It just wasn't going to work with him in Mello. We trade Chuck for Choncy. We make it to the Western Conference finals. Same people. We just move one that that's the difference. all I'm saying, right? Hell of a basketball players, but fit in what we were trying to do. They was 30 and 13 and they got hurt.
Starting point is 00:34:47 So I can't really, I can't really say that because they got hurt. You got hurt. Yeah, 3013, they got hurt. They got hurt. But they also got hurt. Like, they had, everybody's healthy. But still, if people are doing there, you still got Yonis, it's a different. It's a different. I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:04 I'm thinking, he's a winner. I think the issues they had were Drew Holiday in the playoffs. Couldn't score. Couldn't score, yeah. But that's what he, so. But that's what I'm saying. We don't have the scores anymore, Middleton's out.
Starting point is 00:35:15 You're the number one option, and you're not doing very well. When was it? So that's funny. I heard it. The big game, John has missed. Yeah. Drew was horrible.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I heard that small way. Chris was planning them games. That small way of thinking. Like, I heard that small way of thinking that they were thinking, yes. But what Drew is as a basketball player, That's winning basketball, no. I'm training the day for Drew.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah, that's fine. But, that's cool. That's cool. I'm not doing this. But the thing was, Drew won and won it again, didn't he? They figured with their defensive players, they needed more defense. They know they needed more off championships. As a fifth officer, come on, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:35:57 They need a middle to. Come on, kid, don't do that. He got, he was running around. Man. Doing that serious? No, I'm saying with Boston, like the players that he played. No, the players that he played with? No, for sure.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Did he do a job of walking when they're in Boston? Yes. Yes. Yes, as the third option, right? Yes, as the third option. So when we need him to be the second. I don't expect that from him. So how are we going to win it then?
Starting point is 00:36:21 The same way y'all won it before? We haven't won it the last two years. I expect him to be who he is. Right? I expect him to be who he is. A leader, a defender, knock down shots when he's, cool and dope.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yes, all of, yes. But for him to go out and be like, damn, he had I got to go score 35 a night. That ain't, no. But even he even trying. But then you don't have Chris Middleton that's not in there. So we need. He played all five games. But he played.
Starting point is 00:36:49 He played all five games. Average 23 a game. When they lost in Miami. So because of his performance, they felt that we just need, we need someone better. That's 17. 17. And what did Jimmy Buller? 19.
Starting point is 00:37:04 What did Jimmy Buller average? The last three games. Look at his performance. For who, Drew? Yeah, or who? And that's why they wanted someone who was more stable in the playoffs. But they all did that thing in the playoffs. What's more stable than winning to happen you win a championship?
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah, but in a year ago, we're talking about it's the same guy. We're talking about the next two postseason. We need someone who can do that in the playoffs. I'm about losing. I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. So they said we're going to upgrade our offense and slack on the defense. Now, this is the problem.
Starting point is 00:37:33 They went into the season, and this is why I say, I hate people who. who just target stats and not tell the whole picture. So if y'all remember the beginning of the season while they were winning, they kept saying, oh, the defense is worse than last year. They're worse than last year. That was the push. Okay. The problem with that was, is the offense was seven to eight points more.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Their defense was down. So they was actually plus three from last year to this year. So they were actually a better team. But everyone focused so much on the. offense. That's why Doc was able to say, oh man, it's the defense, the defense, y'all ain't playing no defense. No, they're playing better offense.
Starting point is 00:38:15 So you're saying, you're talking about Adrian Griffin's year, though. Yes. We still talking, I'm talking about the boo-hoser when Chris and Drew was there, and the reason Drew is the perfect guy for that situation. We don't move on Drew is not because he couldn't
Starting point is 00:38:31 score, because before the two years prior to the championship, he was being who he is. is because we still got Chris averaging 23. We got Yonis doing his 30 ball. But when Yonis goes down, we need extra boost that they're looking for Drew. This is unconventional for us to be like, all right, we're depending on Drew to give us now 25.
Starting point is 00:38:53 We're going to do what we can while Yonis is out. But that next year, to get off of him in that summer to say we're going to go for the explosion side, we're going to go all offense now, you're getting rid of the championship-style defense that brought you to this prominence. that's going to change everything. So Adrian Griffin, the defensive coach, he comes in, he says, let's play defense. Who really doesn't play defense like that?
Starting point is 00:39:18 The guy they brought in. And we all talked about what happened when he came in. It was like, they're giving up something that Dame can't replace. He can't replace that anchor because you called him the anchor. Drew was the anchor for that. He's the first line of defense. Yonison, Brooke, is the back line. So if you got a guy who can't get past these guys to get back there,
Starting point is 00:39:38 you good. Dame is letting them got, it broke down the defense. Adrian now has accountability for these guys. Like, hey, look, come on, guys. We got to, whether it's the messaging
Starting point is 00:39:48 or whether the fuck, nobody could take it, it don't matter. So where you get to score? What I'm saying is they were mathematically better. They were. They were better on offense.
Starting point is 00:39:59 No, but they're giving up, they're giving up three more points, but they're scoring six more points. So they're mathematically just a better team. They got what they asked for. But because, But because the media and everyone was throwing so much on the defense event, it's easy for someone to come and say, hey, man, the defense is, you know, I'm a defense coach.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I can lock these people down. I can make the place a better defense. And you remember what I said? And it was like, the defense is better. When Doc first came, they were like, the defense is better. And I was like, no, they're just, they're not scoring anymore. They're slowing the ball down. They were scoring 122 before.
Starting point is 00:40:36 They was scoring 122 before. now they're scoring 1-16. So he's putting less possessions in there. So the offense, the defense, they don't score as much. So it's pretend. It's pretend defense. And that's his formula too. It looks like you're playing better.
Starting point is 00:40:53 All you did just slowed the game down so they don't score more points, but you're not doing anything. And you've got 17 and 19, but look at the opponents of scoring against him. And what did that do to their offense? When you talk about Dame and Janus, What is Janice strong suit when you talk about what they were doing? Fast. Play fast, play fast.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Now Doc is saying, no, no, no. Let's play half court basketball. You and Dame, y'all getting the pick. And it's like, well, it don't work because Janis really used to getting the ball and doing his own thing. He's a ball stopper. You got Brooke lifted on the side. You got Chris just waiting for Dame to do what he do. Dame don't know whether he want to do it or not.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Everybody's trying to please everybody. And Doc is not the type of coach who's just come in and set the record. straight, so everybody is just discombobulated. I can't be mad at it, though. I mean, you got a top 75 player coming to Milwaukee. Like, John Horton, like, I can't, I can't be mad at it. I understand why. Like, the gamble was great.
Starting point is 00:41:50 To me, it just didn't fall. But it did. If you're 30 and 13 and these guys didn't really have no training, they didn't really, and this is the start of, this is the start of my season, 30 and 13. I'm good. No, for sure, they were third. Like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:42:05 This is, because you remember, we were still, asking a question, okay, Drew, Drew Holiday, they lose Drew Holiday, which was considered a net guy, right? And I don't think they studied enough tape on him to actually see what the fuck he does. For sure. The game change. Because people didn't realize, wait a minute, he made defense, Janice and Lopez. You remove him, where the fuck was they defense at? For sure.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Aren't they the, aren't they the, where's they defense? And the problem that they didn't see was Drew paid attention to everything. Right? He would, he could have Steph Curry over there. If he sees something going on and they're looking at a plane, he will leave a man because he knows you're not trying to pass it. Yeah, you're not trying to. So I'm going to, I'm going to leave and go this way. So he did a lot of things that you have to be entwined with defense to do. You don't see a lot of defenders even do. it he does. So he was a guy who cleaned up a lot of usually it's a big man. You're never really seen a guard do that much cleaning up.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So it made those guys look better on defense too. I've seen two. Him and Jake Head. Oh, Jay Kid. That's it. They're like Mike Head. I've only seen two. Him and Jake Ed. Like that shit. Sit back there and just quarterback done. He could be guarding Reggie like he'll be guarding Reggie Miller, though. And we'll tag some shit, get a
Starting point is 00:43:33 like what the fuck? No, you're guarding him. He's the best shoot in the game. Got you, bro. I got you. And that's what I see with Drew. But like I said, I understand what they were thinking. Yeah. But I was watching everything that Gil just mentioned.
Starting point is 00:43:47 All the shit that he made up for within the confines when they wanted. All the shit that he did for that, right? Dame, like I said, Dame is who he is. Like, I'm top seven. Yes, for sure. I get what the thought process was. But for me, I'm a Drew Holiday. guy from how he affects winning and losing.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That's all. So if they would have kept them, so say if they would have kept them, right? Do you think they still in the same position they're in now? Yes. No. Losing? No. I think them firing boothoes was the first situation, right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 I think they'll still be in the same position. They'd be eight. I don't think that's a lot that came from that decision. Okay. Right there. Oh, crazy. So you fired Boonehozer, 2020. Bootthorth, then I think it's a, so Boone still had his job.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think it was. They was panicking, right? They was panicking. Yonis don't get hurt 2023. In theory, Buck's advanced at least the second round. I don't know how to go on beyond that. So you lose Bowdenholy. To bring in Dame.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yonis misses 2024 playoffs with the calf strain. Dame has an Achilles injury, 2024. Misses two games in that series. Then you go 2025. Obviously, Dame torn ACL. So. Now you hamstring over your roster because the pay, payroll.
Starting point is 00:45:06 But look, so look, you do this, right? It's a lot. But you haven't seen. But wait, you do this, right? You're right. But guess who on the other side of this is winning? Drew Holliday. He went from, I know what I do it.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He just broke down about Drew Holiday. The reasons why you were actually bet on him, he went to another team that needed this to win. Some pettiness from the Blazers side, if I'm not a mistake. No, no, I'm talking about the Celtics. But what I'm saying, you get him to the Blazers. Oh, yes. And we're going to send them to your
Starting point is 00:45:37 And we get this This one piece that everyone's Overlooking like this is the type of guy that we Need to take us over the top with a defensive minded Jalen Brown A defensive minded Derek White And you got a Prozingus
Starting point is 00:45:52 Who is also a defensive Like a Brooke Lopez type So you're like oh we can do this I feel like Drew Holiday is probably One of the most if not the most Underrated Basketball players that came out of the 2010 era where you go in there, 6-4, he does everything. He's a student of the game.
Starting point is 00:46:15 And he went and proved it in two championships to be a point guard to go out there and be what you needed to be for the team. So, I mean, there was some overall pettiness, right? Dame wants to get out of Portland. Derrick Fisher. Sam to the Bucks, trade Drew to the Blazers. Dersers. Blazers, say a few bucks, trade them to the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Now you build a Celtics team that goes on to win the championship. It wasn't all defense, Nick. Come on, me. Get your stuff together. Get your shit together. Get your shit together. Even if you, if you, like even with Drew, like the thing why they got rid of me, they needed more offense. Um, that championship team had more defense too.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They scored 117. So they was, they scored a lot. It's all the defensive players that they had that actually could trip. So like you're talking about, I didn't even know Devinchenza was on that team. Yeah. You know, you got PJ. You got PJ. So you got PJ out there playing nothing but defense, Yonis Lopez, and Drew Holliday.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Bobby. And Bobby. So like, think about everybody can hold their own defensively, so it's easy work for them. Right? So when you start losing more defensive players and now Drew, hey, score. And he's like, oh, hold on. 17. I'm 17.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Hey, cool. Yeah. Championship team, 17, Janus Lees, 17. Find you another. You want more points? You're another motherfucker. I'm at 17. I'm 17.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Hey, I'm Tobias Harris, nigga. My number 15. But he would, hey, my number 15. He'd go from New Orleans vote. Average 19, 21, and 19 in New Orleans the last three years.
Starting point is 00:47:48 To come to Milwaukee to get three straight all defensive. Three straight at this team with someone like him, Janice, back there with him, that's complimenting him, three straight
Starting point is 00:48:01 in the voting for defensive. the player of the year three straight. He's averaging seven, like you just said, 17, 18, and 19. How much more solid do you want to be? And he's averaging seven assists, four rebounds. Yeah, I just like it. As just a solid point. He's solid.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I like it. Those moves don't get made, at least in my opinion, without. Somebody has, somebody got to get to approve. Here comes times when you're struggling out there. You're struggling it offensively. Motherfugger's sitting in that lane. You remember who they play? Miami, right?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Yeah, they're gonna pack it. Miami put that wall up on Janus and I need somebody to pass it too. You gotta shoot more. I dig it. Right? You get frustrated in the series. Right? And we know what happens?
Starting point is 00:48:45 And what's the frustration? Uh-huh? What's the frustration when you come to, like he wants somebody to shoot? I need, I need. You're depending on the... I need someone else to score to the relief so they can stop triple teaming me, dog. But you need the coach to actually put something in the play, right? You need to go to that.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Help me. Come on, man. Make something. Make something. Make something. Hey man, go on the timeout. God damn, man. These motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You start looking at it here. I got to make some shots. Man, hey, do you see this wall? This wall is here. I can't run through the wall. I got a bone bruise one. I got a knee bruise. I don't want to play this team.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So what you're saying? So what's you're saying, though, if you're saying he's saying, I need somebody to hit some shots. Yes. That means that in the summer. Yeah. I know just who the cause. I need somebody to hit some shots.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Hey, Drew, you're my man's and all. Love you. You cool. I come in the locker room Give you the hug You're cool Been there before So I know
Starting point is 00:49:37 I know the guy I know I know what it looks like Yeah I know what it looks like You out there You get triple team And you can't get your offense up Because they got this solid defense
Starting point is 00:49:47 And you need guys To do their job And you don't have Shooters And so your defensive players Start looking like You know what Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:58 I can I don't need this much Devenso on my T so you start doing that. Let's keep this thing moving. I don't need this much defense, God damn. Fuck that.
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Starting point is 00:50:58 Yes, sir, Gil. You said something about Dodgers. the Los Angeles Dodgers. So baseball is back. Baseball is back. You didn't see last night? Angus versus Angels? They're going to three people.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Baseball being good through me. Yeah, they're going to come back. When did they come back? A couple weeks ago. A couple weeks ago. Yeah. This is America's pastime, right? This is supposed to be like a big major sport.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Oh, it is. And we don't see it. We don't know about it. We don't know that. You don't. You don't. Lizzie's in baseball. We are, we are.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I was at the age two last year. I was at the age two last night. You don't. I'm just saying, you don't know his baseball one. Where is the talk of it? Everybody. It's out there. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:40 What I'm saying is, I'll leave your house. Why do they pretend that basketball don't run sports talk? Why are we pretending that? It is football right now, right? There's drafts going on. I mean, there's free agencies, right? LeBron James, Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's all we want to talk about. Even Brumny. Listen, they can talk. this football shit all they want to talk in the world of sports but basketball is the talk
Starting point is 00:52:09 you can see the player's faces I didn't even realize baseball was back or there was football drafts coming up baseball don't need advertisement man they got certain fan bases that don't move they got showhead hey they got certain guys that literally
Starting point is 00:52:24 they don't need to broadcast when you see the motherfuck of tickets go up they sold out ain't even no promoting for it. Baseball been around before Abe. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Jackie Robinson Day coming up so? Mm-hmm. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. Now I get what you're saying because basketball controls the algorithm. Because what happens when when and this is because
Starting point is 00:52:49 negativity. When when June 30th or when that comes in back the the championship is over with why is there a dead period? Sports in sports media. Because why is there a dead period. We're doing up for summer league, Gil. No, no, I'm going to. Why is there a dead period in sports,
Starting point is 00:53:06 baseball and football? Baseball is boring. Oh. Right? But they still, they still watch it because they love it. They love it, but it's boring.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Dead than the motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Baseball is boring. You get a ticket, you get a ticket in damn near August. Cayne Mark just got a ticket for speeding.
Starting point is 00:53:28 News. 56 over 55. Like, wait a minute. Why are y'all talking? about this all? It got nothing. It got nothing. But other sports is going on.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Okay. But there is a hardcore sector of baseball fans. Baseball is boring. Like you said, but once you learn the sport, it's actually quite entertaining. No, it is. You get a lot more Hispanic friends if you go to the Dodgers game, bro. Everybody bonds over for a band. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:53:53 A Dodger doll is it? They are the most loyal. Like, it's different, bro. It's like, I love baseball. I be playing the show. 2026, I'll be playing that shit every day. But that shit is a different love of the sport. Like, you got to actually be in tune with it.
Starting point is 00:54:08 To be able to be outside in that hot-ass sun, a fucking three and a half hours. Like, you got to be, you got to be dedicated to that shit. And you don't be saying niggas out there like that. They just don't support that shit like that. They'll go to a couple if you got some work with you. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:22 Go check it out. But for the most part is the black and Latino communities, that is the one safe haven. Hockey. They come together. I just I'm just asking I'm just asking
Starting point is 00:54:35 K. D.K. Hernandez. I just like throw KK.K. Yeah. We do like sports center and stuff like that, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Right? Those are the most famous people, right? Have you ever noticed none of them is famous for football takes or baseball takes or any?
Starting point is 00:54:51 Those guys who get famous have you noticed is always talking the basketball topics and they're attacking the basketball players? It's the best thing. It's the most entertaining.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Have y'all never noticed that? Like, when you look at the numbers, if you go to their individual page, it's usually the, when you see millions, million views, it's a basketball player they're talking about. When they're talking about day sport, 40, 50-7. They're family people. They don't do shit.
Starting point is 00:55:18 They clean. They wear a helmet. You don't know who they are. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, man. They're well-spoken. I mean, I'm looking at it, and I just be trying to figure out, like. Well, I'm sure it's same as college or same in your adult life. When you go to the club,
Starting point is 00:55:31 You show up to the club, they know who you are. Football dudes wear helmets. So you have to tell them who they are. They get called by their numbers. Baseball, they don't have baby mamas and shit like that. They ain't allowed. They ain't allowed. Not publicly.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Not publicly. Not publicly. No, no, because they're all over the water. Yeah. Not publicly. You never know. Tony already got about five baby moms. We have no idea.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That thing is active. No, but. Hey, what is Aaron Judge? Hey, y'all can say I'm tripping all the time. Don't worry. I'm going to point it out when basketball season is over the way. He's black.
Starting point is 00:56:05 He's black. He's black. He's black. I'm going to put it. I'm going to win. Let's shift back to some basketball discourse. Spurs came through with their first 60-win season since 2017, as Wimby just reached the 65-game minimum.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Only played 64 regular season games but played in the NBA Cup championship, which does not count for stats, but did count towards the 65-game total. So Wimby likely to take home his first defensive player. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I knew that one was going to get your turts up, right? Huh? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Do you say it again? Whoa. So, played 64 regular season basketball games. Spurs made the NBA Cup championship. The NBA Cup does not count towards your regular season wins or loss totals or your stats total, but does count as a game for your 65 game. That's bullshit. I don't do anything for that, man.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I know bullshit when I hear it. Hey, that's killed. They just took that out of thunder the way. What? Hey, what? But ah, ah. Hold on, he did play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah. Damn. Okay. So. Yeah. The stats don't count, but the game count how? That's, make that shit make sense. It's when you.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You play in the game, but the shit don't count. It's when me. He gave him the opportunity to duck, Joker. So my stats are off 65 games, but they're using 64 games. Their stats, I believe, are off your 64 games, but they're using that NBA Cup Championship as a 65th game because only two teams made it. It does not count towards your...
Starting point is 00:57:37 So the game don't count. Your numbers don't count. So you might why are you playing the game then? If the numbers don't count. You get that 500 racks. That shit. 500 francs. So we already got loophole. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:57:51 you don't think the rest of the players, I got 64 games or someone like Luca or someone like you don't think they're going to use this. Yeah. And they As a complaint. Absolutely. Make the championship.
Starting point is 00:58:05 The NBA Cup means something, Gil. Yeah. They just stopped caring once the Lakers won the first when they tried to act like it did. If my stats don't count, my game don't. Yeah. But you get that extra $500,000, so does that count in your heart in Vegas? I saw some shit today about Bruce Brown. I'm like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Played all 82 games, would not be eligible. Come on, man. Based on the 65 game criteria because he didn't play 20 minutes in some of the games. That's some bullshit, no. That's crazy. He played all 82 games and you tell me some of my games don't count. One of 18 players to do that. No.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Wait, he played all 82 because he didn't play a minimum of 20 minutes. Because he didn't play 20 minutes in some of the games that don't count. That's my, fuck. That's shit. Oh, we're learning a lot. Well, we learned it. Our team producer, Baron Dam said that the All-Star game should count too as a game. Well, might as well.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Yeah. Yeah. Might as well. So, Kay, it's eligible. Yeah. If that's the... You made me play the game, God damn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:00 She's preseason fucking... It's a paycheck, you get paid for it. No, technically, they add it into a paycheck. Well, technically, preseason should count. Because if you get in the fight in preseason, you get suspended. You get suspended for a regular season. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Oh, yeah. Oh, shit, it's about to be ugly. So you can get in the fight game one in preseason. You allow to keep playing all the preseason games to then miss a regular season game. Absolutely. So that should be where you can knock niggas out at. Yeah. technically.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And play the next game. Spending for the rest of the problem with you. We got to back. We got to back. We got to back. Knock your ass out today and tomorrow. Yeah, that's the day and tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That's wild, though. So, Wimby 65 game eligible. I'd likely to take home his first defensive player of the year. He's not eligible for. He only played 64 games. But also he's probably going to make his first all-N-BA team, likely a first-team selection. Dang, that's... But...
Starting point is 00:59:57 Why, you ain't say MVP? He doesn't have the support of the players or the media. Well, he has the support of me. I'm just letting you know. That ain't enough. It's plenty. Top three most hated. The top three.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Hate, hate, hate. So you see his minutes played? He got way less minutes, too, Wimby. Out of everybody. It's called Efficiency. That's what I'm saying. It's called Efficiency. You only play 27 minutes a night, 28 minutes a night.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Efficiency. So Wimby going to win those awards. San Antonio tricked off an opportunity to make their playoff road easier in the final game of the season against. the Nuggets. Denver rested most of their roster only played Yolkich 18 minutes to get him awards eligible. He played 65 games this season. While the Spurs have four of their five regular starters with Wimby sitting the game out, a Spurs win would have dropped the Nuggets to the fourth in the West, but now the Spurs faced the possibility of having to go through both the Nuggets
Starting point is 01:00:47 and Thunder if they want to reach their first finals since 2014. Spurs were four and one against the Thunder this season, but just one in three against the Nuggets with three of those losses coming during the Spurs League best 30 and 4 stretch since February 1st. Wimby did not play in two of those games. So Gil will start with you. Did the Spurs play themselves by letting the Nuggets get the three seed?
Starting point is 01:01:12 I can't say they play themselves. I don't think they thought the Nuggets was going to basically tank the game. Remember, everything is before the game. No, no. Nicola had to play that game. No, no, so Nicola had to play.
Starting point is 01:01:35 So you're like, okay, you know what I mean? If they win, they win. Nicola's playing. We sit in our guy. If I know he was just going to play only a few minutes then sitting, everybody else is going to sit, then in hindsight, as you play chess, yes, you will want this win.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Well, they knew that. They knew that. They knew Joker were just going to get to the 65-game threshold. I'm just saying the new ones are going to play the whole game. And they probably thought their team is better. And if you watch the fourth quarter of the- If Yotja is going to leave, our team without Wemby is still better than theirs. So instead of just actually just capitalizing on it and securing that win,
Starting point is 01:02:16 so the road is a little bit easier, you know what I mean? It's one that, if you can do it again, I'm probably sure that they're going to play Wembe and try to get that win. No. But if you think that you think that you, you, if you think that you, you, are going to go and then battle seven games against Denver and Yokic, which Yokic is going to beat Winby up, to then go and play
Starting point is 01:02:43 the defendant champs and then have enough for the championship. Usually that's how East Coast teams win is the West Coast beats each other up and then it's easier for them. So that's really how you flip-flop. So this looks like, depending on who gets there, Boston could possibly win this out.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Boston can possibly win this out because this, because of this right here, because of this lineup where Denver and Spurs got to play, then whoever plays in the second round, then whoever plays got to play the defending champs next. We're not scared of them, niggas? We're not scared at them? I mean, but never been there before? I mean, Dipper has been a chance.
Starting point is 01:03:33 champion before? We're not scared of them. We're not scared of them or the thunder. No, no, I'm saying Denver been to the championship. They just making that up. He announced that. Come on, man. He's ducking nothing, man. He was talking about last week. I think the first made themselves. He was going to miss this game.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Talking about. I know when we were going to miss this game. I think the spurs made themselves. I know they've been battle tested a lot, but I mean, you know, Denver, they have you know, Tee Bull's first round, but if if ants not hunted, I still think they get past that. But then, you know, you got that hog.
Starting point is 01:04:03 that next one. You know, and he, I mean, he's a champion. He's been there, and you know what he's going to do. Spurs were one and two against the will of the season two. I don't know if that does anything for you, but, man. Hey, we ain't been ducking joker. Listen, listen, I'm telling you. You know what, hey.
Starting point is 01:04:17 We're not the Lakers. We're not trying to find a game. Huh? Nuggets won 11 straight games, right? Mm-hmm. Going into the playoffs, there's one 11 straight games. They're playing fucking great basketball right now. So, yeah, they're going to get out the first round.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Good luck, San Antonio, playing them in the second round. Yeah, I think you played. We don't need no luck. They played themselves. They played themselves. We don't need no luck. And I average 37 against you in regular season. Regular season.
Starting point is 01:04:48 We don't care about doing that. The difference between that is I play all the minutes in the playoffs. I play all, I play all the men. We play a lot over here in the playoffs. Winby 29 minutes per game. Say it again. And guess who they... Say how many minutes again?
Starting point is 01:05:03 What they're 29? All right. And they got another big guy over there that they can bring in and I play them motherfuckers together at times. I'm going to need them. I'm going to play Valatunis and Yokic at the same time. Hey, Valatunis, get him.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Yeah, come over here and get it. Yeah. Come over here and get all this. For a team that's never made in the playoffs and you're a rookie, this was an opportunity for an easier role because you would want to play
Starting point is 01:05:29 in the second round. to Lakers or Who would be in that? Why? Huh? The Laker under Houston. Why? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Why? Why, though? We didn't even supposed to be here. We ain't supposed to be here. So it would either been Lakers or Nuggets. We ain't supposed to be here, though. But you are. So we're not going to try to take the easy, bro, because we're here now.
Starting point is 01:05:49 No, yeah, no what I'm saying is. Right now, if you let, if you let, if you were to, if you were to won, they would went to four. Nuggets would have dropped the four. And Lakers would have went to three. Because Lakers beat the Jazz. Both those games were on at the same time, but you had to have a feeling
Starting point is 01:06:04 that Lakers were going to be able to dispose of the game. Yeah, so Lakers would have went to three. What's the name, one that went? So you'd have been playing, most likely, the Lakers in the second round. Don't matter. What? Don't matter.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Either one. Pick your, pick your poison. We cool. Winby, you get the rest because you don't have a big man that you have to worry about? We don't need the rest. We don't need the rest. Like, talk basketball.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Don't need to rest. Don't need to rest. Don't eat the rest. Those are just words. He's been restricted minutes the whole season. He's been restricted minutes to the whole season. Literally, he just pointed out the minutes, right? Wimby has the lowest minutes out of all the people that have been non-eligible.
Starting point is 01:06:42 He literally had been managed to have a load, his whole minute's restriction go up. More this, Pacific. We do know he's going to. He's going to do it. All his minutes. Talk with the unbiased. Been going in. Talk with the unbiased.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Talk with the unbiased of it. Talk with the unbiased of it. the bias of it. So you don't know if he can do it. Like, you think you can just, you think you can play in regular season, 27 minutes old and then play some 48s? No, we ain't saying,
Starting point is 01:07:08 I ain't saying 48s. I'm saying 38th. We can do 38s. The best player in the world is who you're going. You're not going against Ruy. Like, if you were going against Ruy. The last time we played against each other, I had 37, you had 40.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah, and I'm going to have that every night. That's cool. You're going to have it. But y'all barely won. Y'all barely won that based on. Our guy missed in a shot. Our guy missed a little tippy. Like, we're supposed to win that game.
Starting point is 01:07:34 That wasn't supposed to be a lost game. You're talking about this second place shit, man. Regardless of all of that. Regardless of all that. When we talk about these next games in the playoffs, we're ready for that. We're ready for that. We're ready for that.
Starting point is 01:07:48 But you're talking about how the Spurs kill OKC, but then that's the Spurs the same way they, y'all did that. Say what? Tell them again, Nick. The way you talk about the Spurs, how they kill OKC. The Nuggets did that to the Spurs, though.
Starting point is 01:08:01 What's the record? One and three. One and three. One and three. He ducked. He ducked him. He ducked him. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:09 That's it makes sense. Jay and Williams didn't play. Jay does. Jay does. And one and three and he didn't play in two of those games. So you don't want to acknowledge the fact what the Nuggets are doing to the Spurk, but you want us to acknowledge of what. Without the main guy. Without the main guy.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Without the main guy. And what we're doing to OKC is with their main player. Okay, cool. What are you talking about that? No. What he's talking about? You're making shit up now. So you're giving him an excuse you want to get women in excuse.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Jaylor Williams and you got your whole team. Okay, so we beat them. And he ducking yo. He doesn't play in three of those games. He ducked your goal. Williams played three of those games. How about when he playing Nicola? How about when he played?
Starting point is 01:08:46 Do Nicole duck him? No. Yes, he do. Do he guard him? Huh? Do he guard him? What's the ducking? Bro.
Starting point is 01:08:55 He's shoots up. He's up. You all. You all. Why don't Joker guard him? The average 37? But then you want to say, oh, you ducked him a couple, Wimby guard him in the average.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Watch out. Without the box. Watch out. It's called game planning. It's called game planning. Without that. Without that's called game planning. That means your ass don't want to come over here and get your
Starting point is 01:09:19 motherfucker face tore off. Now go sit over there and guard somebody who can't do you see. When I look up on the board, my coach wrote Gordon. Yeah, don't guard him. Yeah. Yeah. In the playoffs it is game program. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah. Now we got our feelings out of it. 37. Yeah. One average is 37. You're going to play them in the second round. We know in the playoffs, we know what he does. We don't know what you do yet in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:09:43 We know what he does in the playoffs. He's amazing. He is the playoffs. I have to, we have to get through this first and this is my matchup, right? That means me as a player will be tested against a guy who literally has his way with me because I'm not strong enough yet. So that means I'm going to be worn the fuck out seven games. If we're going to win this series, that means I have to be able to be on the floor every single minute. I'm most likely going to foul out at least one game.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I'm going to be in foul trouble some of those games. After this battle, if we win, I then have to face that. the champs. If we get out of that round, then I got to face Boston. Do you see how hard the road is? So if you could have won that game to have an easier matchup,
Starting point is 01:10:45 meaning who's in seven? Well, we don't know yet. Sons or Blazers. Yeah. Round one. Sweep. Huh? Lakers.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Then we play the Lakers? Or the December 1. The Lakers? Timberwolves. Good cool. Lakers? Timberwolves. Or the Timberwolves.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Or the Timberwolves. That means there's a guy over there. I've been busting his ass since I was 15. I've been buzzing Rudy. There's a guy in Minnesota that's been busing. Cool, cool, cool. I got, we got a lot of those. The Luggins have been losing in the semi-finals the last two years.
Starting point is 01:11:15 We're talking about this year. We're talking about this year. We're talking about Mr. Playoff. Mr. Playoff. We're talking about right now. The Joker's Mr. We're talking about right now. But he hasn't been to the conference finals.
Starting point is 01:11:27 He's a two years. I said, so we ain't even thinking. How is he missed her playoff? And you ain't taking your team to the conference final. But again, that's not the point. The point is you losing. You're going to get beat up guarding him. You're not worried about that.
Starting point is 01:11:45 You're going to get a whole other team. We got a whole bunch of real killers out there to go out there and play. Against who? Whoever. Not against the number. Whoever. Without Winby? Ever.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Without Winby? Without Winby? Whoever. Not against Nuggets, you know. Whoever. Not without Wetts. Hesel. Fox.
Starting point is 01:12:02 All of those guys. That's not enough. That's not enough. See, nobody. We know Clay Thompson, right? Yes. Not against that team, you don't. Every time he played in the championship, he kind of struggled a little bit.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. No one never looked at the road he had to take as a defender. To get there. When he got there. I got there. James Harden.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I got a guard. Dane. I got a guard. Who else did he have to face? Name the best two. So, but there was games where everybody he, he guarded was a top three, top five score to then get into, you didn't got no legs in the championship. Guarding. Carrey.
Starting point is 01:12:44 You know what I mean? You have to guard Kyrie. You have complaining. You as an individual. Now, what if that was Steph? And he had to guard those guys. leading up to that that's windy
Starting point is 01:12:58 your your defense is needed against Yokinj what you mean to get to escape I'm not a defense player to you yes you're not eligible we play 64 games three years but we're talking about
Starting point is 01:13:11 basketball man like I don't care who you are I don't want I as an individual if I'm a if I'm trying to get to the championship and I'm the best defender in the world and I'm a center I don't think my first round wants to be David Robinson
Starting point is 01:13:27 then Hakeem Elijah Wong and this Shaquille O'Neill I don't want to fucking where's McClure? Where's McClure? That ain't no That don't even make sense Where's Zaza Maturella?
Starting point is 01:13:39 That ain't where the old guy Wemby's mentality ain't no I don't want that That's why he didn't his mentality That's why he's not thinking about Oh I need to do this See stop talking for him This is all about
Starting point is 01:13:50 Go out there And play in front of you Play in front of you So every challenge that he's had this year, he played with the guy who's in front of him. Whether he outplayed them or they outplayed him, he'd go back to the locker room and say, I can't wait to see them again. I can't wait to see them again. I can't wait to see them again.
Starting point is 01:14:08 He's not scared of that shit. 30-7. All that shit is all saying on me. They don't mean nothing. Like, why do you know what? What do you mean? That man is going to be ready to play. He's going to get his ass busted.
Starting point is 01:14:18 Every game. And he's going to be 22 years old. He got plenty of energy. He's got plenty of energy. He's got plenty of. We don't know that. He's going to go out there and he's going to be competitive. Period.
Starting point is 01:14:28 We don't know if he got plenty of energy. So why we keep using hypotheticals doing it? If we don't know, it's not using a hypothetical. There's no hypothetical with the fact that he only plays 28 minutes a night. That's a fact or hypothetical? That's a fact, right? We don't know if he can play 37, 38, 9, 39 minutes a night. We don't know that.
Starting point is 01:14:49 But we know the other guy can. We do know that. It's going to go up if he does. We don't know that. We do know that. We do know that. That's a hypothetical. We do know that.
Starting point is 01:14:57 One thing that is a fact is that they did play the first. We don't know that. That is a fact that. They did play themselves. If my best player is a defender and he only plays a certain amount of minutes and we're trying to ramp it up, my first round is against Phoenix. Who's their center? Okay. Markway.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Portland. Who's their center? Right? So that means for Wimby himself, he don't really have to exert much energy in individually. Just help defense, right? If we win that game, our next matchup, Lakers, or Timberwolves. So I get Aiden, if you win me. Rest day, right? Rest, another rest, you know, what's the name? Or Rudy Goldberg. Gabbard. Right? So me defensively as a player, he can serve. energy two rounds
Starting point is 01:15:56 for a defensive player to you he's just playing help side defense he don't have to worry about his his personal so he's conserving a lot of energy well because because you guys didn't win that game
Starting point is 01:16:13 your second round is the most important so that means your individual defense you personally you and who whoever has to guard Murray, but they have a lot of guards that can switch on to that. They don't have a lot of bigs that can switch on the Yokish. You have to play Yolkich.
Starting point is 01:16:32 See, I can conserve my guards energy, right? Castle, you go there, you okay? I can rotate my defensive guards against him so they can all stay a little. Wendy has to actually use all of his energy in that series. Win for a game. Then you have to go up, if you win the game, you have to go up against O'Kee. KC where now you have Chet. Now Chet is like, oh, he's tired.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Let's, we're going to run Wimby. We're going to run Wimby to first of a minute. Like just, oh, he's tired. If you did, so just to, like, to help, like, the one game that Wemby, like Wemby played well in one game. He had 37, right?
Starting point is 01:17:13 He had 37 in one game. He played 37, 38 minutes in the game, right? In order to have those numbers, you have to try to match Nicola's minutes. Right? You have to try to match his minutes. And to Gil's point, he is going to have to guard him for all those minutes he's on the floor.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Because you don't have anybody else out there to do. You don't have nobody else on your roster that can compete with him. That's going to wear him out. He can go out there and score 37. Cool. He can play 37, 38, 39 minutes tonight. It's going to be a detriment. Because you got to, to your point, he's a two-way guy.
Starting point is 01:17:52 So he's going to have to play on the other end as well. So good luck. But, hey, I would have to want. I would have wanted to have the second round like. I would have wanted the second round to be a lot. Y'all don't think them are going to be more tired coming into that set? How? What against who?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Who they play first round? No. Minnesota? Minnesota. Minnesota been kicking their ass the last two years. What we're talking about? But what I'm saying? But what I'm saying is, Nick, you wasn't supposed to do all. Jamal Murray wasn't healthy last year, right?
Starting point is 01:18:15 No, you just going to talk about last year. They've been talking about this. You said, you said they will be tired, right? No. I'm asking the question. Is my best player going to be tired? You should, you might go seven. No, it's my best player.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Is Rudy going to force him to play defense? Your best player is not going to be hard in Wimby either. Your best player is always going to be taking the night off. You can't take a night off. He's guard. He's going to take a dog. He's not realizing 39 against him. You are going to take it.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Just, just, just he is going to be tired. Stop me. No, he's not. No, he's not. You said the team. He's not. Right? The team, like my team, who I have, who I have, who my best player, the guy I need to win series?
Starting point is 01:19:03 Yeah. But you got to do a lot of yours. Who does he have to guard? Where is his energy being spent? He don't guard nobody anyway. Cool. That's a lot, though. Yeah, I know, but on the defense.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I get the score on Rudy. And I don't got to play. Why you think Steph, how do you notice Steph? Steph is going to, they're going to conserve all the energy for Steph. He's going to guard the guy who don't want to shoot so he can play just offense. He don't have to play offensive defense until so much for them. He doesn't have to do rebounding, assisting, and scoring for one team. You got to do a lot.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Not really. He has to do all of that for six to seven games. That's nothing. I mean, give me the ball. Look where he played for. Give me the ball. He just did it for 65. He just did it for 65 games.
Starting point is 01:19:45 But what are you talking about? Winby supposed to be tired and jokes. Because he got to play both. Because he played 27 minutes. He's not supposed to be tired. He will be. I mean, I mean, Who's on Phoenix
Starting point is 01:19:55 that he got to worry about Or who's on Portland that he got to worry about Nobody, that's what he said. No one. This side might be a sweep and they're going to be waiting on Joker and then you're going to have a battle.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Denver going to sweep Minnesota as well. What's wrong with the battle? What's wrong with the battle? What's wrong with the battle? He's not healthy. What's wrong with him? Nick, Nick, Nick, he's not healthy. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Nick, yes. He is suing up and putting his uniform on. Yes. And he is not healthy while I put putting their uniform on. So, yeah, that's like an 80%. So that's all I'm saying, dog. Like, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:29 So he's going to go out there and chase Jamal Murray around right now? No. Imagine you have three, imagine you have three fight. Let's see. How about this? How about this? How about this? How about this?
Starting point is 01:20:41 You get to fight all of us. You have to fight all of us in one day. All of us in one day, right? Are you going to fight one of them second? And me and him are going to be third or four? What are you talking? Yeah. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is
Starting point is 01:20:59 you have to fight us back to back to back to back, right? Are you going to fight BJ then Kenyon, then Rashad, then me? If you do that, I have the best chance of knocking your ass out because they're going to wear your ass out.
Starting point is 01:21:18 If you get through them, you get to me. It's easier for me. If you go one, two, knock us the fuck out, go. Then you work your way in. Winby is going here, then here, then got the defendant champ, and then I'm in the East Coast like, oh, you're tired. You are tired. You are tired.
Starting point is 01:21:40 It's basketball. It's basketball. You got a red. You got rest days. No, you don't know. You've seen the work. It's every other day, bro. If you go to.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Seating is very important in the playoffs, man. If you go through, if you go through history and look at math, And you look at certain players matchups. You got to play them now. Like when Kobe kills Spurs, who did he have to go? Bruce Bowen? Oh yeah. Lunchtime.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Easy work. Lunchtime. I got Bruce Bowen. I can sit. No. I can sit and chill. He's going to make them work. What?
Starting point is 01:22:15 What are you going to do? Sit in the corner. So there's a re- Go this going to that corner? Yeah. Now think about it. In the Western Conference Finals, In the Western Conference Finals,
Starting point is 01:22:25 Colb gets, he gets to just play offense, so his energy in the finals is different. The finals is where he has to play defense. Just know what you're saying. Kobe Bryant gets to just play off. Kobe was guarding the guys who was scoring. He wasn't just guarding Bruce Bowen in the corner, my nigga. Who was the gardener?
Starting point is 01:22:45 Wasn't there a Tony Parker and Amano Genoobli on the floor? Two other guys? He guarding him. He guarding Tony. One of them? For sure. Whoever's killing. I got whoever's killing.
Starting point is 01:22:56 But Derek Fisher out there is... Well, guess what? Let's talk about this. Yeah, let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about the guy that's after 37. These dudes are young.
Starting point is 01:23:07 They're ready to play. We can go. We can go through history. We can talk about anybody. We can talk about anybody. It's my best player. What is my best player's road to the championship? How burnt out is he getting?
Starting point is 01:23:22 how much energy can we can serve through the playoffs. So when we get to the championship, he is ready to go. So shouldn't Joker be trying to get his energy back from averaging the triple double all season? No, he's doing anything to sleep. Okay. You don't know now that it's the reason why he ain't been in the conference finals last few years.
Starting point is 01:23:40 What does it go? The last two years. He ain't been in the conference because it's been burnt out. He burnt out two years in a row. Why are you bringing up old shit? Okay, now it's old shit. Yes, it's just making a valid point. No, no, your point is old.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's just making valid point. We're talking about this year. The last two years. years. He ain't made it because he burnt out. Was it the past fucking? My guy not going to make it because he's going to be burnt out because he didn't take the easy road to the... What you mean?
Starting point is 01:24:01 What about this year? Talking about this year. Talking about this year. Yeah, go, get his ass with us. Got to play. Get his ass to spot a guy. Like I can tell you, the way to play off shape out over here in the West,
Starting point is 01:24:14 Boston has a better chance if they're coming out of East because this is a battle in the second and the Western Conference Finals because the juggernauts are hitting each other hard early. What about the pistons, Gil? Yeah, and what about what? Whoever.
Starting point is 01:24:28 What about whoever? There they go. They don't have a battle, too. They ain't because they walk around the east. Ain't no cake walk for Boston? Yeah. They don't cake walk. They got to play New York second round.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Who? Who? Okay. Easy. Okay. Now, now, now I'm going to say it again. Who is challenging my two best players? They beat them last year.
Starting point is 01:24:48 What I'm saying is who's challenging my two best players? No. No, I'm just out. I'm asking, who, who is challenging my two best players. Who ever beat them last year? On Boston, on, on, Nick. I'm talking about what my best, what positions are my best? Hey, him a whole different place.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Tateham and Brown plays the what? Right? Now, New York, New York best players who is going to, who is going to fight to death, play the one and a four. Right? They played a one in the four. talking about their best players workload. If you would listen to Rashide.
Starting point is 01:25:25 God damn. He's talking about the best player. Who do they have to guard? That's what he's talking about. I see what you're doing now. No, that's what he's doing. I see what you're doing. He's talking about who does Jaylor and Jayton Taylor have to guard.
Starting point is 01:25:36 That's who we're talking about. Yeah, but the matchup between New York and Boston ain't about two players versus two players. About who to have the guard. That's what he's saying. It's a team game. We have a team scheme and a team concept against these two guys. Yes. We don't have to match up for players.
Starting point is 01:25:51 for playing for them. Yes, they do. It's about who you have to guard every night. We're talking who, man. We are. We are. Yes, we are. You're talking to,
Starting point is 01:25:58 who do I have to guard every night? I mean, I mean, who's a scouting who's going to the final? It's a scouting report. What happened last year? What was y'all got to guard? What happened last year?
Starting point is 01:26:08 What was I have to guard every night matters? What was the scound report when y'all was playing in the playoffs? Depend on who you're doing. I love. I love, I love, I love, was it a team report? was it a scheme? Done. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I love playing. You're not going to go. I was all. I was yours. He just said this. Oh, Aaron Gordon, you're going to guard him tonight. This wasn't a personal matchup. That's his matchup.
Starting point is 01:26:32 This was, this is our team strategy. Joker, you're not to guard him. And you're to guard him. The same thing with Boston and New York. Okay, cool. Hey, listen, this is our team concept. So what is that? We're going to go into this.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Workload. Workload. Workload is, workload. OG, make it. So we're going to put the world. O.G. O.G., make them work. Josh Hart, make them work.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Jock. And O.G. McHale. Make them work, Mikele. What is he talking about? Make them work, McKell Bridges. We got three guards that can play defense. Make them guys work.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Are you going to play offense? Like you said. We got Jalen Brunson and Carol Anthony Towns. That's our offense. So, yeah. So what you just said. So that means I don't have to worry about Jalen Brown or Tatum over-exerting himself on defense because they're bad.
Starting point is 01:27:21 player is a point guard and a power forward. So that means they gets to play one side of the... Actually, it's a five. Please don't misspeak. Please don't give it. He's a five. That means... That means Tatum.
Starting point is 01:27:33 That means Tatum and Brown on the defensive end have a lighter workload. You don't think Brown's going to be guarding Brunson? Now, if Brown has to guard Brunson... Derek White. Now, if Brown has to guard Brunson... Very White. Right? And stop Brunson and try.
Starting point is 01:27:51 how to score a fucking hundred points, he's going to get a little tired in that series. Then that very next series, if he has the same type of matchup and we win, by the time we get to the finals, I know this player don't have that energy. Right? So like Shay, like Shay, in the playoffs, people don't realize what Shea does in the playoffs. See, Shea plays defense, but he never has to guard the best player because they have DORP or all these other defenders. So you can hide him on defense. So that means he can start off.
Starting point is 01:28:24 If you start cooking him a little bit or he's getting a little fatigue, get him. We're playing the back end. So he gets to conserve his energy a lot. I got one for you. So just for shits and giggles, right? Let's say Jalen Brown does guard Jason, fucking Bronson.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Cool. Tatum, no, but he is in his argument, the best two-way player. at the wing position, so guess what? He can handle the workload. Oh, so Wambi came. No. We ain't seen him do it. We haven't seen him do it.
Starting point is 01:28:58 We haven't seen him do it. We're doing it all season. We're talking about in the playoffs here. We're talking about right now this year. Playoffs ain't here yet. 28 minutes. The playoffs ain't here yet. 28 minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:05 The playoffs ain't here yet. So with Jalen Brown did, and his hook and all it. It was great, right? So now it ain't, so we ain't seen, have we seen, have we seen, have we seen him do it in the playoff? We had to go out the best guy every night and go out and score. We haven't seen it.
Starting point is 01:29:23 We have not seen it. Yeah, we have not seen it yet. We've seen Jalen Brown do it. Yes, and no. Okay, cool. We haven't seen Wendy do it yet. So therefore, and we only know he only has been playing 28 minutes tonight. These are facts.
Starting point is 01:29:35 He's only played 28 minutes tonight. During that regular season that you just spoke over shot, he only played 28 minutes tonight. So in those 28 minutes, he played well. We haven't seen him play more than that consistently because we don't know if he can do it or not. They don't know if he can do it and not in San Antonio. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:29:51 We will see. Is Jayne Brown going to be tired? Is Jayne Brown going to be tired from guarding Brunson and going to get buckets? Well. We were talking about your guy. Oh, okay. We're talking about your guy. That's a good deflection.
Starting point is 01:30:04 No, we're talking about your guy. You be deflecting when it comes down. We're talking about your guy do it. We actually talk about Jalen Brown. We've seen him do it. We've seen him do it. We seen Jayon Brown do it. We've seen Jay.
Starting point is 01:30:18 No, I don't believe so, no. Because he's getting already. I don't believe Wimby's in this time. We've seen Jalen Brown do it. If Jalen Brown does get tired, Tatum doesn't have to do anything. We've seen him do it before. You see where they can.
Starting point is 01:30:30 They can switch up. You want to find his MVP, didn't? Right? Wild Guard, the best play on the other team? What said, right? Hey, okay. Right? Been down this role.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You remember? You remember, you know, Buck's championship. Okay. Buck's championship, right? Okay. Y'all remember what Yonis did in the finals? Mm-hmm. You remember that performance?
Starting point is 01:30:47 Do you know who he had to guard round one, two, and three? Him, he's the best player on the team, right? Mm-hmm. Do you know who he had to guard his personal defender? I thought we were talking about this year. Clint Capella? First round? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:31:05 First round against Atlanta, right? No, no, no. First round was against Miami. Okay. We're talking about four years ago? I thought we were talking about the road. He had to guard Trevor Reza. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Trevor, it ain't playing no more. No, no, go ahead. Trevor is a round one. No, go ahead. Right? Round two, he had to guard Blake Griffin. That Blake Griffin. Not the Blake Griffin.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You all know. The Blake Griffin that was in, yeah. So he had to guard Blake Griffin. Clint Capella, the next round. And then in the championship, the motherfucker got so much energy because he didn't have to do nothing. He's running through Aiton or Jay Crowder? And they don't.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Wonder why he had all the energy in the world to just run up and down because for the first three rounds, he didn't have to use no energy. I thought it was because he was really good. I just thought it was really good. I didn't think he had to do with conserving energy. He's just a really good player who knows how to play the game. Yeah, so both of those things can exist at the same other fucking time. Therefore, he's a really good basketball player.
Starting point is 01:32:17 And if he ain't had to guard nobody and play, he can, hey, play help defense for three rounds? He wouldn't have done it anyway. He's going to be a lot better in the fourth round. Absolutely. He wouldn't have done it anyway. But he didn't have to. He didn't have to guard nobody. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:30 That wasn't the matchup. We had PJ Tucker. Oh, okay. We had all those other defenders, yeah. I was in the playoffs and there was a LeBron James and some rounds. I remember we had to go against the Bulls, right? And we sat in the zone because who was the best players on the Bulls? The guards.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Kirk Heinrich, all of them blue all dang and stuff like that. So it was like, yo, we're going to play a zone because our next matchup, where we need all our energy is fucking Miami Heat. So we set in the zone so we can conserve our energy. Because their best team was guard. You don't worry about energy? Don't do that, Nick. Because their best players is guard.
Starting point is 01:33:18 So if me, Larry Hughes, are our best players in Antoine Jameson, and their guards as their best players. That means us three and their three. We're sitting here battling. Then we go to Miami. Right? We go to Miami. We don't have no energy to keep up with.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Because you got to remember Shaquille O'Neal's playing Brennan Haywood. So that's all they're going to do is passing them. That's all. So that's his problem. So we got to, that's that problem. Now, we got to try to keep up with the scoring of Dwayne Wade and Shaquille O'Neill and try to figure that out. but it's your individual
Starting point is 01:33:54 matchups, man. It's that simple. Like, if you know, like, the Philadelphia 76, right, then we're playing Alan Iverson. And Alan Iverson, first round, has nobody to guard. And he's just out there playing all offense
Starting point is 01:34:12 and just sitting in the lane. And I got him round two. I know he's trying to go for 60. Because he didn't get challenged defensively over there. So he only played one side of the board. That's a real thing in the playoffs. That's a real actual thing.
Starting point is 01:34:35 How you know? Because I was in the playoffs? You was? Yeah. You went to the playoffs? That's our cue. That's our cue. It's out the mud.
Starting point is 01:34:44 You were just out of the mud. It's out the mud. It's out the mud. I ain't played in the playoffs. I can't talk about this shit. Then we go. I was waiting on that full circle. I was waiting on that.
Starting point is 01:34:54 It was timing. I was actually looking at my wife's like at some point they're going to bring that shit. You know. At some point, I mean, when I got to the playoffs, I got a booklet. Two stones in the check. I got a booklet when I first got to the playoffs. A booklet. A booklet of everything, everybody done, your schemes, who's your guard?
Starting point is 01:35:12 Like what's you, like, you're going to be on this person? I remember my rookie year. We played against Atlanta. We played against Atlanta. We got Joe Johnson in them. We got a whole booklet. And our holes, we played them in the regular season. the way we played them and now we play them in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:35:24 we play them a different way. Different way. Because it's a different scheme. Did the booklet say conserve your energy? No, that's a coach. Did the booklet say, hey, make sure you can serve your energy tonight? No. Make sure you don't play as hard as you can.
Starting point is 01:35:39 I mean, but me guard Mike Bibby in that first round, I knew that, you know, I do that, you know. I'm preserving my energy. Because we're going to the next round. Well, listen, at the end of the day, everybody had a booklet and you had your, you had your, Hold on. Unbelievable, man. You don't need to say conserved the energy. I do know this, though.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Sir? If my matchup, if my matchup is we're playing the Cleveland Cavaliers. And I'm guarding Eric Snow. Another Eric Snow mentioned here on. No, what I'm saying is that. I'm guarding Eric Snow. Defensively, do you think I'm going to? to be challenged defensively.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Hence why I average 32 on offense. Because defensively, I got Eric Snow. So unless they're going to target me directly to make me play both sides of the floor, Moe Williams is getting all this work. It don't matter
Starting point is 01:36:45 who guards me at this point. It's all offense because on defense, I have Eric Snow and I'm just chilling. And that is a real thing. my matchup is a real thing that's why I say to
Starting point is 01:36:59 to tame a lion you need a lion if I want to challenge Steph I don't put a defensive player on him who can't play offense no I'm going to put another offensive guy so when you try to score
Starting point is 01:37:15 he's trying to score to now play defense y'all going to burn each other out but if I put a guy who takes three shots a game on him he come down shoot a 50 footer, turn around, do this, and then on his defense, he just sits here.
Starting point is 01:37:32 You know why? Because he only takes three shots a game. That means he might take one shot every quarter. Other than that, that means 12 minutes. Seth is going to be sitting here doing this, doing nothing. Because he only takes three shots a game. So in reality, he's just resting on defense because this guy is not challenger.
Starting point is 01:37:48 But if he's guarding a guy who takes 20 shots also, his ass is running around all day. You mean hiding him on defense, right? You mean like, Steph, after you shoot, go get the weakest offensive player no matter who's on the player. Yeah, that's why they do that. That's why they do that. That's hence why they do that.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I know where everybody is. But do that. Hence why, like Houston, you know, in Houston, they're like, shit, we're going to guard you on defense and we're going to try. You guard eight times if we're going to put you in the post. If you guard it, we're going to do picking rolls. Like, it's, that's why Steve Nash and Tony Parker series were so good. because they both did pick and rolls
Starting point is 01:38:26 trying to burn each other out. It was a force. They couldn't put Steve Nash on nobody else. So what they did was, if you go back at that series, they did Red Roll twice. They're going to hit Steve Nash and then hit him again before they even run offense. They were going to hit him two times every single time,
Starting point is 01:38:47 pick and roll, pick and roll. They tried to tire him out. So by the time the fourth quarter came, he didn't have his legs and he wasn't running as much. Thing, man. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. One last, actually two last topics for the day. Let's shift over to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:39:04 LeBron spent most of this season as the second or third option for the Lakers, embracing those roles for the good of the team. But you never won, though. That's the thing. We never won as a team because I got hurt. All that you said, you name win. Like, it didn't matter if, like you had 32, you lost. And other guys shot three shots, they won.
Starting point is 01:39:25 Like, they don't matter. Like, you're saying things that if you won. No, how about this? Then I can do this. I can just go through every, see, because I do all my research and my history, I can go through any team. Any team, you can go through the 96 Bulls. You can go through the, remember, I gave you examples of Golden State
Starting point is 01:39:43 and told you why Clay be doing this because of who he had the guard, those juggernauts every round. I went through Janus. I can go through anybody you want. Their role, their personal role as the best player And how easy it was And the ones who had to play their position Like I got to guard this person, this person, this person
Starting point is 01:40:02 And what they did in the finals in the championship How it looked Right? So if Wimby's gonna win a champion They won. Clay did his job They won He wasn't tired at the end, they won But Clay wasn't the best players
Starting point is 01:40:19 Yeah Yeah So why are you just bringing it? So Clay wasn't the best. I'm just saying why Clay didn't perform well in certain games because who he had to play. And the best player, Curry didn't have the guard anybody. And that's why he performed. But how he performed.
Starting point is 01:40:35 So when you're talking about even go, you go, you go LeBron James and go through the finals and who he had to guard. You go through anybody. You can go through, you can just go through research. It's there. It's there. You just go through the road of what that best player. Winby is the best player on the team. He is the best player on the team.
Starting point is 01:40:54 You got to play. In the second round, his matchup is devastating if it goes seven rounds. Because he will be challenged all seven rounds. The guy average is 37. That means he's getting the ball every single time. That means he is playing defense every single time and then trying to play office every single time for seven games. And then if we win that, we are playing against a team who plays
Starting point is 01:41:21 full court basketball injury. The man will be playing basketball. That's what you're supposed to. That's what you live for. Seven games. Hard court. We had to play to the wire. We've earned this.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Now we're ready for the next round. But we get rid of Joker early and you're saying, this is not tough as match up. We ain't worried about nobody else. We just need to do this game. We need this series. He's going to push me to the limit. Yes.
Starting point is 01:41:45 We're going to take this challenge. It was a bad. Who did my best player? get challenged by. You see, still not getting it. Who did my best player have to guard, Luca? Did my best player
Starting point is 01:42:01 had to play Ant Man? Did my best player have to play any of those guys? No, I have crash dummies for that. I got crashed. I got crash dummies to do that. So my best player gets to keep being the best player.
Starting point is 01:42:15 He gets to, that is a thing. I'm sorry. If you, when you leave here, you want to go and Look at every champion. If you want to go look at every champion, look at the best player. Look at his road. Look at his personal road. Not the team.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Look at his personal road. You want to go to Jordan. Look who Jordan had the guard in those playoff series for him to average 30 every game and 40 and 50. Look who he had the guard, actually. Do you want to name some of the people he had the guard? That's cool. Do they want to do that? Going back in history, the brutal.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Yes. That's what I do. I go through his, I look at history. That's not what's happening right now, though. It's not. I just told you, Shays Road. It's 37 in night. Not going on right now.
Starting point is 01:43:01 37. I just went through here. It's history. Shays' world? It's just history. It's history. About to change history, though, 22-year-old.
Starting point is 01:43:10 When I Bronzains won the finals in the bubble, who did he have to play through the round? Who did he have to go? High-quality opponents, Gil. No, no. No, who did he? He has to go. Some of the toughest NBA here?
Starting point is 01:43:23 How is he still playing at 41? Because what position ain't that strong? So he gets to survive. He just elevated his game. But speaking of LeBron, Joe. Same reason Anthony Davis wants to play the four. It's easier. We just got to play Yonis.
Starting point is 01:43:37 That's it. Gotta play Yonis twice the year. That's it. Other than that, it's a breeze. You mentioned LeBron. LeBron spent most of this season is second or third option embracing those roles for the good of the team.
Starting point is 01:43:48 But it's stepped up with Luca and Austin Reef, both sideline, Definitely. So Brown was named Western Conference Player of the Week for the first time this season and record 70th time in his career. 41-year-old average 24 points, 10 assists, six rebounds while shooting 56% from the field, 50% from deep in 27 minutes per game only played. I think first half against the Utah Jazz, so skewed those numbers. Lakers bounced back from another blowout loss of the Thunder, which some of you might have saw last week to end the regular season with three straight wins over a juggernaut, Warriors, sons, and Jazz Squad. So in the four games he's played since Luca and Reeves have been sideline. So, God, we will start with you.
Starting point is 01:44:28 How is LeBron look to you as the Lakers number one option in this limited sample size heading into the postseason? It's a question. Mark at the end of the game. It's like saying the number one option on the Wizards, right? Not a playoff. Someone got to put up the numbers, okay? All right. That lets you know how horrible are you are that the team is
Starting point is 01:44:53 if our 41-year-old has these type of numbers because no one else is capable, right? We do have Luke Canar. You see Luke Canar's numbers? You like Luke Canar now? Yeah, 17 rebounds. We got a six-fold who can't, 17 rebounds. Our big man, I didn't have 17 rebounds this year.
Starting point is 01:45:11 You like Luke Conard now? So that lets you know what kind of what we're working with. So it looks amazing. But, I mean, it's not like there's any extra comp on the team for him to do any. Hold on. Luke can all has 17 rebounds against the math. He had a triple double against the math. That's the state of the NBA.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Not your ordinary Caucasian, can you? That's the state of the NBA. An elaborate Caucasian. That's the state of the Lakers. That's the state of the NBA. When Luke and R can go out against 16, 17 rebounds in the game? Hard working. No, no.
Starting point is 01:45:45 Hey, shout out to his triple double. Connard. He's a shooter. Yeah, you were not right. My shooter My shooter got a rebound. Yeah, that's the state. So, yeah, so yeah, but what LeBron James is doing is, okay. It is us.
Starting point is 01:46:05 We see the roster. Like, don't pretend we can't see it. We see it. I'm watching. I'm looking at it. Luke Canard's one and only triple double. So you said that's his 70th player of the week? Player of the week. That's it. Is all?
Starting point is 01:46:20 The next player of the week. I don't want to say Kobe. What happened? Damn. 70th, 70th player of the week selection. I think it's just truly amazing just to see him at year 23. Player of the week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Like 80% of the NBA players can't do this. I thought it'd been more. You know how hard player of the week is? Because we know it's all. We know it's by it. Like, you can average. You can go 20 and 0 that month, right? win player of the month
Starting point is 01:46:51 win play the week twice yeah win player a week once but please be player to month though yeah your team undefeated you average
Starting point is 01:47:02 40 to month but you're not player the week all four weeks yeah so LeBron 70 of the week left is most in the NBA history
Starting point is 01:47:09 Kobe and Kevin Durant both tie for second with 33 yeah I just thought it would have been more but to Gil's point don't
Starting point is 01:47:16 yeah that's I get it that's always been a weird one I get it. But obviously, the Bronx said this is... I'm three and one. I'm playing the week. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Adjustment for him, started this season with the sciaticas, had to play, take a backseat to Luca and the Austin Rees of points, adjusting back into being the guy. Lakers did win three straight games. If the Spurs done their job,
Starting point is 01:47:36 not Joker, would be the three-seat. But you were talking to all that. We're on the tie-breaker. The tie-breaker. The tie-breaker. We would have been under pressure. The 22-year-old freshman would have...
Starting point is 01:47:51 That shit is. It didn't matter. Who loves the game? Love competing. All that tie-breaking shit didn't matter. Must be MVP. I love competing. I don't duck.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Yeah. But. Soccered blue. No, I thought it would have been more than that. But, hey, 70 is a lot in the next B. shit, damn it. 40, 08, 37. That's impressive.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Michael Jordan, 25 player of the weeks for those who care. So therefore, that's, that should tell you enough right there, right? To Gill's point. With the John did. Yeah, that's the Gill's point. It's, yeah, you got, yeah, it's, they got to give it to somebody. They just can't keep giving it to the same person every week. LeBron, 41 player of the months, too, just in case.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah. Don't mention you guys. Forty-what? 41 player of the month? Yeah, like I said, they could. God, damn. Every month, just me. They just got to give it to somebody else.
Starting point is 01:48:41 That's all. That is what it is. How do you hate your favorite? How do you hate your favorite player? What's the next topic? Well, I say, shot in the LeBron. James throwback high school jersey St. Vincent, St. Mary. You don't even have that one. You would...
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah, as you know, I'm plus size. They don't make some of those jerseys. They just came back out. They did. They did. Yeah, Nike bring them back. Also. All right. You know. Shot. Mm-hmm. You like to offer any thoughts?
Starting point is 01:49:09 No. No thoughts. Pass. Okay. Pass. That was easy. Hold on. It's one of the awkward silence for quick. All right, let's keep it moving. So after the Lakers win,
Starting point is 01:49:23 Over the Suns Friday, the Guardians Claire DeLoon asked Bronn what it takes to play for as long as he has at a high level that the average fan might not understand. Brian had this to say. It starts way before you get on the floor. Obviously, they see it once the game is, you know, gone. The popcorn has been popped and the lights are brighter, but that takes so much more like sacrifice and disciplining things over the course. If you want to be really great at this, and if you want to do it for a long period of time, it's just, There's so many hours that you've got to commit to it. There's so many things that you, you know, maybe want to do that you can't if you want to be, you know, great.
Starting point is 01:50:03 So, but everybody's journey is different. I'm just speaking with my journey. But I do think that the game gives back to the ones who put the time in and put the time in and commit to the game. That's just the game guy's rewarding. You know, and we don't cheat the process. I think that's what it's all about. So I'm talking about game. So 60 games this season, Brian average.
Starting point is 01:50:23 21.7 assists, six rebounds. Average at least 20, five, and five in each of his 23 seasons in the league. So, that's why you hear what Brian said about doing the work that the fans don't get to see behind the scenes. In your opinion, how impressive was LeBron in your 23? Would you call it a successful season for him? Yes, for sure. At his age, still demanding, winning, and being great in greatness. He's LeBron James, man.
Starting point is 01:50:53 the cane. He put it in the time. You don't really see them in, you know, TMZ-type atmospheres. You don't hear too many stories about them. He kept a tight group, spent with a million-send dollars on his body. Yeah, man, he took it serious, and it paid off for him. I respect it. 60 games in the season for LeBron, 41-year-old. Lakers, three-seat, most wins since 2020, when they won. the hardest championship in NBA history? No, I think it's amazing. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Actually, at the age of 41. 80%, probably NBA players couldn't do what he's doing right now. Averaging 21, 6 and 7, played 60-some games. His team is in fourth and still in the playoffs in the postseason. So just hats off to him for that, man.
Starting point is 01:51:50 I mean, it's just truly incredible to see that for a guy his age. Can you, when you look at Willa? No, fuck. No, I'm just funny. Thank you. Okay. It's on that.
Starting point is 01:52:01 No, it's impressive. We've never seen it. Guys that 38, 39, for like those years, are a shell of themselves at that point. He's defied science and history with what he's doing. To play 59, 60 games and. and still be doing it at, with some would most consider at a high level for someone his age. It's impressive, very impressive.
Starting point is 01:52:38 And to, yeah, to his point, man, a lot of things have to go right, right? You have to avoid major injury. You have to avoid a lot of things. You have to sacrifice things. And I appreciate he's done all of those things to be at this point. of his career. Putting the time in, man, believing in the process. And it's what you get out of it.
Starting point is 01:53:03 You get longevity. You get consistency. Yeah, that's what he's displayed in year 23. Sean, when you look at LeBronza able to do this year in his 23rd NBA season, 25 and 5, yet again, stepping up to the plate. When Luca and AR down as they enter the game. these playoffs, how impressive has LeBron been this season in your estimation?
Starting point is 01:53:34 I'm very impressive. He's been very consistent. I think you know, like Eddie Murphy said to Stephen Wonder, you want to impress me? Grab the wheel and dry this motherfucker, motherfucker. Let that production go up a little bit more. Do more. Do the impossible.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Average 30. Take them to the chip. Win it all. Do more. Get out of the first round without the star players. You don't think this is impossible? Why? Nick, why? Nick, why? He's been dunking in a motherfucker
Starting point is 01:54:05 23 years, bro. Nick! You can't jump now, man. You can't jump in every day. Why are you interrupting my statement? I didn't interrupt yours. He's just triggering, ain't it? It's triggering.
Starting point is 01:54:19 I get it. It's triggering. I am. I am. But that's just my own. You ask me, Josiah. That's me. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I'm not impressed. So would you be impressive if he was able to get this Lakers squad out of the first round? Yes. Without looking? Yes. That's impressive. Would you admit that on the show if it does happen? Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 01:54:38 That's impressive. Get past KD. Yes. Guess what, Joe? The playoffs will not start a job. That day is not going to happen. We're ready to lock up. I hate to be the bear of bad news, but that day ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 01:54:48 We have DeAndre Adon. Very impressive. Very. It will change the whole trajectory of his whole team besides Luca Donches. He's ready to go, Kay. Because you need to be. Yeah, it does. Like I mentioned, Lakers now face their biggest test of the season
Starting point is 01:55:06 opening round matchup against Katie and the Rockets. According to reports, Luca will return to L.A. by this Friday. He's been in Spain and in Slovenia getting treatment on his hamstring, hopefully getting some revolutionary treatments, with the hope that he'll be able to return by game three or four. That is all bad. I'm going to say it's all bad. Also, I think it's going to be out for the entire first round.
Starting point is 01:55:31 And just to come back with a hamstring and try to come out and compete, it's just, it's nasty. If you were the Lakers'J.J. Redick, how would you try to build a game plan? Okay. Squeeze out some wins to hopefully get a little good back. Pray. Okay, see, then just whip our ass. They killed the whole season in one game.
Starting point is 01:55:51 That's crazy. It's prey. It was. One game. It destroyed the whole season. That's great. One by 50s, three niggas I hurt. Harbling.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Oh, my God. I see you taking sufficient notes? Because someone text me and said, bro, you might be right. Go to Tim Duncan. And then see every year he won a championship who he had to guard for his matchup. And then when they didn't make it,
Starting point is 01:56:24 who he had to guard. So his first championship, he... Hey, I don't want to hear that shit, I played like shit one of them years. He had to guard Dean, Dean Garrett, J.R. Reed, Brian Grant, Chris Dulley. Huh? In the Saturday? No, he guarded in the championship Chris Dudley and Kirk Thomas.
Starting point is 01:56:40 In the championship? He guarded Chris Dudley and Kirk. The first one? In the championship because it was New York Knicks, you know, because he didn't play the center. So they had David Robinson. Right? So Dave Robinson played all the centers. So he played the Power Forrest.
Starting point is 01:56:52 And back then, Power Forrest wasn't really popping like that until all the, you know, to like the end of the 2000. So first round, he played Dean Garrett. And NBA? Second round, JR We got the Lakers. Right? We had Shaqs and he don't got a guard Shaq. So he guarded JR-R-R-R-weed.
Starting point is 01:57:08 And then he guarded Brian Grant. And then he guarded. Who was final was MVP? Was it Dave Robbins? I'm pretty sure Dave Robbins getting his ass. He had to guard Shaq. He had to guard Shaq. Kevin Garnett, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:57:21 He had the guard Patrick Ewe. So his ass was worn out. Who was fighting? The young dude, right? Because he had all that. They just told me to just look through it. He got his assing. They got his ass-war now.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Yeah, shit. You got to go. That five. Then he got to go. And you're like, no, his error was then. My error. I'm hearing those names. Then in 2000, my error.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Then you got to five to fours, nigga. You hear his matchup. But then you hear David Robinson's matchup. He's like, ah, God, daddy wore your ass out. I got a, my first in the playoffs, I had to wrestle with fucking J-O in the first round. Then PJ Brown, Charlotte and then motherfucking had the guard Juan and, like.
Starting point is 01:58:05 And, oh. Yeah. Twan, Twan, Twan. Yeah, Antoine Walker. And Twan Walker. All-Star, All-MBA and Twan Walker. It's Twan. Your argument is about matchups or energy?
Starting point is 01:58:17 No, it's just matchups. It's all this. Okay, how about that? It's matchups. How much energy? How much energy do you use? Nick, how much energy do you think he, let's say it again, how much energy do you think Tim Duncan had to waste on Dean Garrett?
Starting point is 01:58:32 He don't know. Do you know Dean Garrett? I don't think he. Okay, okay. Dean Garrett, just think about the name. You never heard of him. So imagine what type of offense Dean Garrett had to do for Tim Duncan. Okay, and then J.R. Reed, do you even know who that is either?
Starting point is 01:58:48 Nope. Okay. Brian Gordon. Brian Gordon and everybody, right? So David Robinson had the guard. Shaquille O'Neal. Was this a rookie team? No, this is the first championship.
Starting point is 01:58:59 He's the first championship. He guarded all those people and he still won the championship. The best player didn't have to guard nobody. And see, they won a championship because my best player gets to be the best player still. Are you not realizing what I'm saying? Tim Duncan was my best. No, no. You got drafted in 97.
Starting point is 01:59:20 So the second year is better than David Robertson already. So why I won five? He was better than all of them, niggins then, too. I got a volleyball game. He was he better than all of them? No, we have one more thing, can you do? Who is his match? You said two topics.
Starting point is 01:59:35 He was LeBron and that we already did. No, Gil, you can say that about he guarded fucking... Very quick. What? He guarded who? You know who he guarded. No. In the finals. In the finals.
Starting point is 01:59:49 One last thing we need to cover before we call the day. Playing tournament begins tonight. Throughout the playoffs, we will be making team picks. be making team picks using underdogs prediction markets, which you can do as well. We'll keep a leaderboard of the couch's picks throughout the entire playoffs. Starts with Rashad's Hornets. Shai, you did say the Hornets were going to have a better season than Milwaukee Bucks. Don't think I forgot.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Oh, you didn't forget. I don't think anybody forgot it. They did do that. The Hornets. Who got the Hornets tonight? The Heat are traveling to Charlotte for the 9-10 matchup in the East. Hornets are 5.5.5. I would like to see him win, but I don't think.
Starting point is 02:00:21 5.5 point favorites. So five and a half point favorites. He got Miami? 68% chance to win the game. Let's go around the couch. We'll start with you. Mr. B., who are you taking in Heath Hornets? I'm taking the Hornets.
Starting point is 02:00:33 Mr. B, taking the Hornets. Swaggy, who are you taking in Heath Hornet? Everybody healthy on Miami, right? Healthy enough. I got Miami. I don't see them losing in these type of games. They don't normally lose. They don't normally lose.
Starting point is 02:00:49 In these type of atmospheres. They're a tough. We got Pat Rowley. I would like to see the Hornets do something, but I got Miami. Did they make you play a leisure? Miami? We don't. No.
Starting point is 02:01:07 You're sorry? I don't know we don't remember. I know they did that with Jim Butler. So I'm going to go with Charlotte. Let's move over here. Sean. Can you're taking Charlotte well? Are you still rolling with your work?
Starting point is 02:01:20 Okay. Of course. Good thing. You can't suicide. size. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know he wanted to. He was like, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:30 confidence coffee. I know he's sitting over. What these niggins want to pick Charlotte? So let's shift over to Adam Silver's Western Conference. A lot of supporters of your Hornet Squad. I know. He's sitting like, these motherfuckers. They know the game.
Starting point is 02:01:46 If you're smart. He's like, they're supposed to pick my ear. He's like, smart, man. Roll his shots for Dom's, if you're smart. I ain't lost it. It's hard to lose on this side. In the West, the 7-8 matchup goes down in Phoenix, where the Blazers are set to take on the Suns.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Winner of this game gets the pleasure of playing Wimby and the Spurs in the next round. Tonight, the Suns are four and a half point favorite with a 60% chance to win the game, while the Blazers are 41% to win on Underdogs, prediction market. So, Shai, we will start with you. We'll go in reverse order on the couch now.
Starting point is 02:02:17 Who were you taking in Blazers? Blazers. Blazers. Any optia in there? Yeah. And Blazers? Suns. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Taking the Phoenix Sun. Gil, over to yourself. Blazers, sons. I'm gonna take the Suns, but I'm scared of the Blazers because they have beaten some really good teams this year. I don't know what's going on over there, but they find a ways to win, but I'm gonna take the Suns. Swaggy, Levin. Taking the Suns, okay. Taking the Suns also.
Starting point is 02:02:48 All right. A lot of sons, supporters. Hey, hey, hey. Who the Roach taking? Huh? The blazers He's taking the blazes The Roach has been removed from the arena
Starting point is 02:03:01 If the Roach is still alive It is not happy Shout out to Major Payne Appreciate everybody in this chat Ladies gentlemen The plane is here playoffs right around the corner Start this weekend
Starting point is 02:03:11 It is postseason basketball In the National Basketball Association Let's turn up We got shows for y'all For the next couple of days But again appreciate everybody on the chat Appreciate everybody on this couch As always
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