Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena GOES WILD With Dwight Howard!!

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Dwight Howard Enters Gil's Arena Live as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew welcome the future NBA Hall Of Famer & NBA Champion into the arena to dish on his incredible NBA Career and how he sees the game today. The 3x NBA defensive Player of the year gets real on Rudy Gobert's impact (or lack thereof) on defense and breaks down Victor Wembanyama's defensive potential, answering the question of whether or not he'll be the greatest defender in NBA History. He also gives his take on this season for the Los Angeles Lakers ahead of his former teammate JJ Redick's first season and gives his perspective on the current state of the Lakers as he was on the last Laker team to win an NBA Championship. Finally, Dwight backs up his claim that the 2008 redeem team is the best olympic team of all time and explains why that team would wash the 2024 Team USA squad in a 7 game series. To conclude, No Chill Gil & The Crew react to Steph Curry's massive extension and debate if it's the right move for Steph to stick with the Golden State Warriors despite their failures over the last few seasons. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Dwight Howard, Brandon Jennings, Nick Young, Kenyon Martin, Lexie Brown & Rashad McCants Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ SUBSCRIBE TO Dwight's Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@dwighthoward.abovetherim Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:00 Steph Curry's MASSIVE Extension 0:10:32 Nick Young's Wild Tweets 0:29:36 Who Is Better: Kyrie or Steph? 0:57:46 Dwight Asks: KD vs LeBron? 1:07:36 Does Dwight Howard Still Want To Play? 1:11:38 Dwight On Playing With Kobe & Steve Nash 1:18:27 Dwight On Rudy Gobert's Defensive Impact 1:21:10 Dwight On The Next Face Of The NBA 1:41:16 Dwight Howard On The End Of The 2020 Lakers 2:07:21 Who Would Dwight Build A Team Around 2:19:08 MostlyFans 2:21:15 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa! We done got everybody in the city in here today. Let's do it. We got it. Got the wide lens.

I sent them up because I've never been to work. Chops boy, man. Over the phone? Hey, there you go. Money in the house. Over, under, somebody gets served today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't bring that energy in.

Don't bring that energy in. Don't bring that energy in. Y' yeah, yeah. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here. Don't bring that in here.

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How you doing, though? How you doing, though? But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Reeners here with us. Representing Hussein Bowden, Jamaica. You see? Bumba clock. All right. We see. Bumper clock.

Bumper clock. All right. All right. WNBA champion Lexi Brown is back in the building. Not the same. NBA champion Swaggy P. Nick Young is back with us. Been very active on Twitter. He ain't win a championship.

Oh, big three, big three. Champion. Look, everything's champion. You know, I... You didn't win one in high school. You didn't win one in college. You didn't win one in the NBA. How do you know? I won a tournament.

That's a champion. That shit count in high school? You win a tournament. I won a tournament in college. In the Valley? Yeah, and I won the Hawaii... In the Valley, all these tournaments is like a championship.

Boom. NBA? I be forgetting he was on the Golden State Warriors Jamaica The legend your Martin is back here with us right here This is like the worst seat to be here right now. Yes You will be making that face a lot today right here. This is like the worst seat to be in right now. Yes, Katie. You will be making that face a lot today. I can already tell.

Cemetery Larry, Rashad McKenzie. Woo! Back in the building. Hey. Yo. You see it? You see it? I see it.

I didn't see it. Yo. What are we watching? He made that this morning. He made that, yeah. Oh, he's shirt. He made that this morning. He said he made it this morning. He's still wearing on his shirt. I think that screen print was ironed that this morning. He made that, yeah. Oh, his shirt! He made that this morning. He said he made it this morning.

He still wearing on his shirt. He got screen print. I ain't that bitch on. He had to make it this morning. Ain't no way he have it at home. Rich Dog, you just had that shirt in his house? You just had that shirt in his house? I will never make it up.

Never make it up. What's so funny is you really got to pay attention to him because you be sitting there like. And then look at that. Like that Drake shirt was crazy. Yeah, dog. He true. What? Drake shirt. Drake shirt. And then look at that.

The monkey got on. Like that Drake shirt was crazy. Yeah, dog. What? What? And we got. Bigging up. I'm bigging up both sides.

It's big up. That's shit up. This is the only one that count against him. This is the only dunk that count. In the history of all the dunks. Nobody else dunked on him. That was before you started playing defense, though. This is the one I was talking about yesterday.

I want to play with Dwight after this. I like this kid. He got in the way. He got in the way. I like this kid. He's going to wear the shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got...

I know he just got in the way. That's real hate, Rashad. I swear to God. It is. It's real hate. We got rumors circulating around the internet. We got Brandon Jennings, but Mr. B is already here. Mr. B is already here.

Yeah, Mr. B. He's already in Mr. B mode. And as you can see, we got a special guest making his second appearance on the show, but first in the arena, eight-time All-Star, eight-time All-NBA selection, three-time Defensive Player of the Year, five-time Rebounding Leader, two-time Block Leader. Did not get one there, but came close. Anyone, the undisputed hardest chip in nba history no debating in the bubble in 2020 now you catch him on his above the rim with dh12

show dwight howard welcome to gill's arena we appreciate you pulling up how you doing man i'm great thanks for having me man i love y'all's show. I love what Gil is doing. He's been one of my all-time favorite teammates and an inspiration on and off the court. Just saying to everybody here today. To the teammates. Hell no. No, no, no.

No, no, no. He was a different... Gilbert. Hell no. He, no, no. No, no, no. It was a different Gilbert. Hell nah. It was a different one. Hey, he was Gilbert when he got there. I got the, I was- He was 80-0 with you. He was fucking Gilbert when he got to him.

I was on probation, Sid. Oh yeah. Yeah. You was like, shut the fuck up. I'm quiet. He was calling his whole name. What do you mean? He was actually Gilbert Arena.

He was. Listen, I said in the locker room like this. Hold names. He was a corner nigga. Good job. Good job. Good job. Get the ball in the corner and shoot. No, no, no.

Yes, you were. It was Dwight and then he passed it out and you shoot the ball in the corner. I was right here, dog. I was here, dog. Sitting? I was sitting on that bench. I was you, my nigga. No, no, no.

I played against you. I was you. I got mad. Because you was following me and shit. I got bitches like right around there., no, no. Hell no. I played against you. I was you. I got mad. Because you was following me and shit. I got bitches like right around there. I was a good boy then.

Didn't go out. No, none of that. Let the hoes go. He didn't do nothing about it. You got the good Gilbert. I got Gilbert Arena. We got Gilbert. We got Gilbert.

He didn't like take people's cards. He had Gilbert. No, no, no. He got Gil. He got Gilbert. A little bit. He went Gilbert. When I got on probation. He had Gilbert. Yes. No, no, no. He got Gil. He got Gilbert. A little bit. He went out.

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So there's a lot of talk about aura nowadays, but which NBA players have the most aura in the past 25 years? And we got NBA champion, future Hall of Famer Dwight Howard in the arena. We got to talk Hoops, life, and his new podcast. We see it.

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Oh, yeah. That's valid. Okay. All the time. All the time. Savage mode. All right. Well, let's get into our show. We got a lot to discuss. So, we got some breaking news first. After an underwhelming season and offseason,

the Warriors got some great news Thursday. So according to Woj, Steph has agreed to a one-year, $62.6 million extension that will keep him in the Bay through 2027. So with the move, Chef Curry is now guaranteed $178 million over the next three seasons. So because of the over 38 rule, which limits teams from offering contracts lasting four or more years to any player who's at least 38 years old or will turn 38 during the contract, the one-year extension is the most the Warriors could give Steph. But with

this new deal, he now joins LeBron and KD as players to eclipse $500 million in career earnings on the court. Jesus. And a clap. Let's clap. Good job, Steph. And to the new Klay 30s. Jesus That's right, so smart move for Steph to sign a six- with the Warriors, given the current state of the franchise. He just picked his plot out.

What's the state of the franchise? He picked the plot? He just picked his plot. He didn't make the playoffs last season. It's over with. Burning building? I don't know. Some say the dynasty's demise is imminent.

Yeah, he picked his plot and his head's thrown out. It's over with. It's over with. Sounds like I predicted it well then, huh? Uh-oh. A year left, and then off to Charlotte. No, he's not going to. Sounds like I predicted it well then, huh? Uh-oh. A year left, and then off to Charlotte. No, he's not, bro. To where?

2027. Charlotte. To play basketball? Why? He's got three more years. He's not going to Charlotte. Why? He's not going to Charlotte.

He's retiring. He's retiring. He's going to be here. Why? Charlotte can't afford $62 million. Hey. No. Why? He's my interest. Charlotte afford $62 million. Hey. Why? He might.

He's rich. Charlotte, $62 million. That man retired in three years, man. Tony Parker did it. He not going to Charlotte. $62 million. Tony Parker had to. He got traded, didn't he?

He got traded. Tony got traded. Yeah, Tony got traded. Tony got traded. Mello, so he's under contract for the next three seasons now. He's retiring to Golden State. Through 2027. Three years.

He picked his... He might retire. He might come here. We're not talking about a three-year city. We're talking about a four- He picked his He might come here three years to do we might come here There's another three years he only got three years left in his career LeBron got another 10 and Steph only got three? LeBron got a little. LeBron got a little. LeBron got a little. Can Steph play five more years? Steph got a guard. LeBron could guard for five or four.

So if he's up in 2027, he'll play another year. No. Okay, and you think he'll go to Charlotte? I think he goes and just closes it out. That's what I'm saying. It's only going up from 62. Yes. Right.

And then Charlotte. For sure, it's only going up from 62. Yes. Right. It's only... Listen, one thing for sure, it's only going up from 62. His ass is going to be Rob Parker. Three months into his deal, got to cancel that motherfucking show. Get the fuck on out of here. Get your ass on out of here.

Shots fired. Get on out of here. Motherfucker, 62 days. Damn. Who's Rob Parker? It don't even matter. Okay. He fired himself.

Oh. He got fired. This nigga going to get through the summer. He got fired. He got fired.'t even matter. He fired himself. He got fired. This nigga get through the summer, you know how trash you gotta be to have

radios free, nigga. Radios free. And your ass went under. That's what gonna happen to Charlotte. Pull the Rob Park. We gonna call it the Rob Park. You don't last 62 days, your ass is the Rob Park. Yeah, that's gonna be like... We don't know who Rob Park is.

When he signed that contract for the Marlins, his contract was worth more than the team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my mic, but, Hector... Lexi, what do you think about Steph signing this one year extension, but now it's three years left, 178 mil coming? I don't really feel a way.

I want him to retire a Golden State Warrior. You don't want to see him go to Charlotte? No. I think it's good for his legacy to stay. If he heads down to five a little bit, come to LA. No. Purple and gold. No.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's going to cement his legacy. I mean, he's already one of the greatest, but if he's able to start and finish a career in one team, like, that means something. So, happy for him, obviously. That's a crazy amount. Why are you happy for Steph signing this deal?

You think he should stay with the Warriors given their current situation? Yeah, he should stay. They should have gained Clay 30, though. Okay. They should have gained Clay 30. But he should go ahead and finish his career. I feel like they need some more depth at the center position, but that's just...

Yeah, they could have gave me two of them to all go 62-ins, man. I would have been cool with that. Just two. Just two. I just want a hoop, man. I just want a hoop, man. I just want a hoop, too, man. Down with y'all niggas.

That's it, man. If Steph left, right, let's just say he gets traded and then wins the championship, are they going to say that championship is invalid? No, it's valid. No, it's valid. What if he? Who does he win it with, yo?

Yeah, exactly. Go with the Lakers or what? No, what I'm saying, if he goes and teams up and he wins the championship. Is he a part of it? Yeah. Not like a main. Not like yours. Not like yours. We're not talking about a championship. Is he a part of it? Yeah. Not like a main. Not like yours.

Not like yours. We're not talking about your championship. Where, nigga? You win it. Honestly, nigga. Hey, look at. No, no, no. I'm just saying.

We're not talking about yours. He's a contributor. Hey, nigga, set yourself up for that one. I play. I average my 8, 9 points. Get it off. Get it off. Get it off.

Get it off. Get it off. Get it off. Get it off, Nick. Get it off, Nick. Get it off, Nick. We got the champion side over here. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I saw Nick in the game.

First game. 30. If he wins it with LeBron, they will invalidate that chip. No, I like it. But other than that, they'll give it to him. I would love to see Steph and LeBron play together, though. I'm just saying, will they try to invalid the championship, the legacy, oh, you left, this person didn't. Nah, bro.

Like, nah. I know, we not. Listen, it was definitely some conversations happening in Paris. It depends on who he goes to play with. It was definitely some conversations in Paris happening with them. I feel like LeBron, Katie.

I mean, something had to, like, you know, I just feel like some conversation happened. And I wouldn't be surprised. Brian would be 44. I don't want to see that. We want to see 44, 40, and 40 play basketball. Man, come on. They could come with me at the 35 and older league up the street.

They could get in. Adult league. Oh, they can come to Asia. Uh-oh. Yeah, I got a league over there. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, they can come to Asia. Wait, wait, wait. You got a...

I got a league over there. You paying? Yeah. Huh? Yeah. If you can hump, you can hit, nigga. What's up? If you can hump, it's a fan.

It's a fan. It's a fan. I can coach you. I can coach you. We can coach. We can coach. Hey I can coach you. We can coach. Hey, how much y'all paying?

You've been in Taiwan the past couple seasons. What's that experience been like for you? I'm seeing the videos, the posts. It looks like you're having a good time. I'm having an amazing time. Just to be able to get out and hoop. You know, it's a different atmosphere. It's fans that never had a chance to really come see an NBA game. Now they get a chance to come watch us play.

It's an amazing feeling, man. I feel like going over there, it brought me back to life. Because when I got how many games? You only had to play what? Maybe eight games. You can do eight games. Nick, what's up, Nick? You can do eight games.

You can do eight games. You can be on the same team. Do more than that. Yeah. Stay over there and bring that tough crowd over there. Stop putting me with you Put the squad together bring the band back I can't come back. Come on, dude. Put the squad together. Bring the band back.

Let's bring the band back. Get the Gills Arena team out there. Presented by $100 Fantasy Woo Woo. I'm in shape. I'm in shape. You look over there. I can't go no more. You played the other day. You seen me play the other day.

I'm still the same team, though. I can still go. How did that go? He hits the threes, though. Give me eight games. You didn't record it? Yeah, I go. You didn't record it? still go. How did that go? He hits the threes though. Give me eight games. You didn't record it? Yeah, eight games. I go with it. You didn't record it? I go.

You still young. You didn't film it? You young though. I'm young though. Nick, you want to chip with Steph, play with that word squad. What does he mean to the Bay and how big of a move is this for the Warriors to lock him up for what could be the end of his career? I felt like that was respectful of what they did for him, because Steph means everything to the Bay.

He goes to the... Steph went to the prison and played with them and watched them. Steph do everything in the Bay. So I think that what they doing for him, I think that I wish they would have did it for Clay. But... That's why he leaves. But, you know, of course he left. They start playing... What's the nigga leaves. But, you know, of course he left. They started playing...

What's the nigga's name? Brandon Brzezinski. Brzezinski. They told him he didn't want him to shoot 10 threes a game. Eight to 10 threes is the report coming out they want Brandon Brzezinski. And didn't want to give Klay none.

None. Put Klay on the bench behind him, nigga. We want you to take his threes. We want you to shoot 10 games. That's crazy. Take his threes and his cheese. Take his threes and his cheese.

That's crazy. Take me to L.A. Take me to L his cheese. Take his freeze and his cheese. That's crazy. Trade me to LA. Trade me to LA with a brun. How do you even predict it? How do you even say that? Like, yo, yo, you're going to go in the game and shoot 10 threes. Like, how do you predict it? You tell me you get to shoot 10 threes,

but your shit's up every time I get in the game. You're not even playing your game. Because if I got to tell you to do it, that means it's not natural. Exactly. So you fucking him up anyway. And that's a lot of threes. That's a lot of threes. Which means you're not even playing your game because if I got to tell you that you're not mean it's not naturally exactly So you for you fucking him up anyway How dumb you gotta be you telling a nigga I'm proving that he can shoot ten threes again That's a lot but if I tell you if I say all right

If I say if I said Nick shoot ten threes a game you done messed up his whole mid-range games Cuz he gonna be thinking about taking just jumpers Yeah, yeah, but you say Nick do this every time you get buckets That's the same thing. Oh, you gotta be all shit. If I tell you get buckets. I mean you get in the mid-range You're gonna boom boom. Yeah, you're gonna do your threes. You just gonna shoot threes. You fucked up your rest of your game. Okay? So but Jim ski average nine, and 4 in 27 minutes last season. You don't give a fuck about his stats. Give me his stats. I'm sorry.

I don't want to hear nothing about no Pajinsky right now. He going to have to show me. 39% from three last season. I'm cool. I was 39% in the video game, too. What about Steph? Let's talk about Steph. Damn. Steph did what?

He signed 62 million. 62.6. Yes! Damn, that was, to be honest, back in our day, that was a whole team. That was a whole team career. That's so crazy. That was a whole team. That's crazy, bro.

Damn. How wild is it for y'all? Did he get paid more than the whole, how much the whole league? No, that's mine. Yo, I'm here. Don't start. No, I'm here. I'm here.

Hey, I got a question. Stick to y'all. I got a question. Y' that? I was like, yo. I got a question. Y'all over by two million, so that's crazy. Do Steph got to take this team to the playoffs? No. No.

Iverson has to take a team like that to the playoffs? Iverson. Why Steph don't have to take a team like that to the playoffs? How old was Iverson? That's crazy. It don't matter. He's still. How old was Iverson?

You talking about 01? He took him to the finals. Talking about 01? He took him to the finals. Yeah, 01. Talking about 01. Do he just got to take a team to the playing? No. You got to. You don't got to the final. Come on, 01? He took him to the final. Yeah, 01. Talk about 01. Do we just got to take a team to the play-in?

No. No. Okay, you got to. You don't got to do shit. Nick, four chips. This is like a- You got to win without- You got to win without-

You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without-

You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- You got to win without- Stop comparing Steph to Iverson. Stop that shit. Stop that shit. Stop that shit. Stop comparing Steph to Iverson. Stop that shit. You can't. Stop that shit. Mr. B. You can't.

We're not at Rico Run. We're not doing that. You can't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You ain't got no steps on. Don't do that.

You can't. Don't do that. You ain't got no steps on. I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about that. Everybody on the team got AI. We're talking about Steph got to fucking get them to the playoffs because of that what are you talking about? He's already proven. Oh, hey, I wasn't proving yet

Hey this death prove he wasn't doing that when I get a group it. They could do without it do it up He was in a fucking They just pulled out they just proved they could do without Katie. Yeah in the third quarter I told third quarter. I told Boston. I got I got this shit out clay. What do you mean? I don't know We don't know we'll see we don't know we will see it doesn't fucking matter though. Does it? Let's talk about he got to do with a idea. What fuck I gotta win He just play Just play. Just go out.

Farewell. Gotta play well. Fucking farewell. Nobody can do what A.I. did. Nobody can go to the finals but Dwight with Gil on his team and shit like that with fucking Turk. Damn. Turk, Luke, Gil, and fucking Rashad.

That's the second thing. Nigga, we had a nice team. We had a fire squad. I'm better than Eric Snow. I was better than Eric Snow. You're not going to do that. I was better than Eric Snow. Not mentally.

Not mentally. What? Not mentally. Eric Snow. Not mentally. Not mentally. What? Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally.

Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally.

Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Not mentally. Orlando was good, though. The Wolves wasn't flying like they used to. Orlando was good, though. Look at hell, no. What?

Say hammer. Jameer. I love Rashad. We was good. Jameer, Rashad. I got to see Rashad. No, no, no. He's gone.

Rashad don't move. He shoot threes. No, when I was gone. No, no, when I was gone, Turkoglu, Jay Rich, we was nice, y'all. What the fuck? Y'all was just. We just got the goddamn ball.

Stop. You had Dwight, the best big nigga in the league. Nobody went to the hole every time he was in the game. Facts. That's a fact. Come on, bro. You can't say my team was trash, bro. You gotta say that.

No, y'all was nice. But that 0-1? That 0-1? That 0-1, Iverson? The year I got there was shit trash. We beat them in the regular season every time. Yeah. We started just staying for good.

Yo, listen, that 0-1 Iverson, I just want to know who was playing in the East during that time. You need a little more. You need a little more. You said 0-1? That 0-1 Iverson team. You talk about trash. No, good trash.

No, who was in the East? What is good trash? I don't want to disrespect him. Who was in the East at that time? What is good trash? Gil, was you in the East at that time? In 2001. T-Mac was.

T-Mac. Ray Allen. Vince. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Pierce. No, listen. Paul Pierce.

I'm not fighting what AI did. What I'm saying is AI had a bunch of trash with him and got through the East. How bad was the East back then? The East was good. How bad was y'all? T-Mac is the East back then? How bad was y'all ever? No, how bad was y'all? How bad was y'all?

How bad was you guys? We wouldn't do that shit today with them four. Them niggas out there with him. How bad was 01? Can Steph do it with them four? That's the question. Can Steph do it with the AI hat? He can shoot the three.

He can shoot the three. So we'd just like to apologize for Eric Snow for our weekly fray that he ends up catching somehow, somehow. So Steph can take that team at 0-1 to the finals. Thank you. Thank you for saying that. He just said no. Well, I mean, I don't know.

The East was weak back then. I mean. No, he stayed up to the finals and beat the Lakers. So Steph, 36 years old. Yeah, Marbury. Why are we back on this? He's talking about an outlier. We got all the clues and layups.

But because he was. Clues and layups. No threes. He can't even get to those. He's 28 in games. The crossover that he do. 20. We ain't want to be like all tattoos.

That has nothing to do. I'm talking about game. We just talking about game. I'm not talking about. The eye content. So who got more game? 30 a game. No threes.

Rolling out the ball. AI has more game. You see what he did to. NBA. His backup point guard when they play.I. has more games. You see what he did to his backup point guard when they played? Antonio. Antonio Daniels?

You was on a bench when you said his knees go back and forth? I was in on the bench. You didn't want to guard him. I was ready to guard him. I was ready to guard him. He was in the game.

I was right in the corner doing that shit. You see how Steph had to do that? Look at that Aaron 30 was like, get him. Get him. I was going to do that shit.

I was going to help him. Who said, get don't want none of that shit. No, him? Who said, get him, you got AR? He said, nah. So back to Steph. Steph, 36 years old, be 37 this season. He's done enough. Even though they don't make the playoffs for the rest of his career, four chips. Y'all think he got to lead a team to the playoffs?

What if he? What happened the last time? He ain't got to do nothing. Why? Give him a statue right now. What happened the last time? Yeah. Y'all searching. They drafted. Just? Give him a statue right now. What happened the last time he was Weisman? Yeah. Y'all searching.

They drafted. I just want to search this shit. Just like how you searched for Bron. A Weisman? Nah. Let him go. Don't Bron got still shit? Don't Bron still?

Ain't Bron still prove his shit? Ain't he still? Ain't LeBron? Ain't we still like, Bron got more, more, more? Why is Steph not exempt? Steph not exempt? Fuck KD. Oh, man.

They still, yeah. They still looking at KD. He got more to prove. Steph got to do that not exempt. Look, KD. They still, yeah. They still looking at KD. He got more to prove. Steph got to do that same suit. Yes. Damn, yeah. I win. If you holding LeBron,

we holding KD, Steph got the same fucking energy. He ain't got to prove nothing. But he doesn't have to. But you talk about LeBron like it's crazy. Continue to compete. Exactly. It's not about proving nothing.

Whenever. That's solidified. It's not about proving nothing. Whenever. That's solidified. It's not to prove nothing. What are you talking about? They got to prove something. They're just going to stop what they're doing for them when they're done playing. All right, well, you can't talk about LeBron or the Lakers or Phoenix no more. None of that.

None of that. You can't talk about none of that. No expectations. You can't say LeBron, this, that. LeBron can literally just go out there and just buck around. I mean, he's not going to do that, But if he don't win it, okay. If him, Steph, or KD don't win it again, they solidify. You can't find a better three in your fucking era.

That's better than mine. What's your three? Our three is LeBron. And KD. LeBron LeBron. He's in my era. He averaged 28. I'm sorry.

LeBron is in our era, too. He's in our era, too. LeBron is in my. LeBron LeBron. LeBron. He's in my era. He averaged 28. Listen, I'm sorry. LeBron is in our era too. LeBron is in our era. He's in our era too. LeBron is in my era. Okay, take him. Okay. So find another three.

Okay. Okay. Die line, die line, die line. KD came up with me. He's us. He was one year before me. KD's my era. KD and LeBron is my era.

He just played in your era. That's my era. When they became champions and you're doing that, that's my era. So you're asking us who's a better three than that in our era, which is AI, Kobe, and T-Mac? Okay. That's not your era. That's 96. You can't do that.

LeBron got drafted in 2003. Yeah. LeBron started winning in my era when I was in the league. So he's in my era. He's in my era. Yeah, your era is 2010 and moving on. He's in my era. That's what he started winning. That's what he's doing. 2003, LeBron 2010 and moving on. He's in my era. That's when he started winning.

That's what he's doing. 2003, LeBron is a 2003 player. That's three years after. That's three. So you're 2010, and you're talking about PG. You're talking about Kawhi. I'm not talking about Danny Granger. That's your era.

You got Danny Granger. Get the fuck out of here. You got Danny Granger. I'm not. Danny Granger is the best player. Brandon Moore. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother. That's my brother Danny Graves. Danny Graves is your best player. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. He didn't pull up on the pot with the switch on it. Nah, Danny Grayson was nice as fuck. I just stood out there because I knew he wouldn't know. Yeah, right, right, right. I didn't know. Okay. I didn't know. All right, your three ain't better.

We got two today. Well, let's keep this thing moving. We started stirring the pot already. Let's keep it stirring. So, Nick, you've been socially active lately and had the basketball community and their feelings with some of your musings, including this tweet that you posted recently.

You said, Kyrie is the Kobe to curry MJ alright Kyrie is to. Kyrie is the Kobe to Curry MJ. People say he's better. I don't like this shit. I don't like this shit. Unless that shit says LeBron James, he having a hard time. I was like, what the fuck is this? He's struggling with the MJ.

But I was like, oh, it's Nick. Kyrie is the Kobe to Curry MJ. Kyrie is the Kobe to Curry way he's saying it is I really Kobe the curry MJ Was the special is Yeah, please read it. I was high I'm gonna read it one more time. I'm gonna read it one more time Eyes! Throw the eyes in there. You gotta add the commas. You gotta add the commas and spaces. Hey, y'all! I did. I did. I was thinking about it.

I was like, damn. So Kyrie is the Kobe to Curry MJ. People scared to say he's better. So before we get to the Kyrie Steph discussion, are you saying Kobe is better than MJ? No. Oh. Yes. This is the obvious.

I say it. Yeah, Kobe is better than MJ. But people throw six rings in his face all the time. Is that, that's an impressive feat Yeah, cuz he never was able but he almost got three for me I think three Jordan was like the shiny object in a big man era and Kobe played against Mediocre so why do I not saw your student guards to saw your face when you heard that. Do you agree with Nick saying that Kobe is better than Kobe?

Paul Pierce, you got Ray Allen, you got T-Mac. Just overall. I don't feel like MJ had a package. He could jump, he could have finish like Kyrie, but I don't think his package was more quick moves to the hole and jump high

and finish. Yeah, I think Kobe better than MJ, skill-wise, yeah. He took everything Jordan did and multiplied it. He did it better. So what if? It had more. It added some steps to it. OK. Three, everything.

You got to get better. I feel like you got to get better. It involves. You got to get better. So what did he? Yeah, 81. I'm a fan of both, huh? Yeah Any max question you

Any mass goddamn question yet. Brother Knowledge. Brother Knowledge. Brother Knowledge. Hit me with your shit, Brother Knowledge. I ain't even asked a goddamn question. Just write out. Come on with it. Come on with it. He had 81. Come on with it. Okay. Come on with it. Come on with it.

Okay. We know he had 81. Now can I ask my question? Yes, Knowledge. Right? Yes, Knowledge. Goddamn. So y'all say he enhanced MJ's game. OK, so what did he do that MJ didn't do? OK, the pump fakes, the different finishes. I get, yes, OK, but what did he do that MJ didn't do?

What did MJ do? He had to fade away, drive, fade, pump fake, spin, spin, pump fake. MJ? No, Colby. Come on. Spin, pump fake, pump fake, spin, spin, pump fake, pump fake, pump fake, this way. He enhanced the perimeter skill set. The toolbox on the perimeter. When you talk about footwork. So he took MJ's mid-range footwork and he put it to the front. Hold on, hold on. That is not MJ's game. That's not the midway Y'all let that media bullshit y'all that media bullshit

You know I'm a student Then why the fuck are you talking about Kobe in his MJ's he didn't move when you're only talking about MJ 95, 96. No, we're not. He did not. Who's talking 95, 96? MJ did not have a business. Kobe don't look nothing like MJ in 84 to 93. He don't know who that nigga is.

Who you saying that for? MJ in 84 to 93, Kobe don't know what that guy looks like. Hold on, hold on. He learned Michael Jordan's old nigga comeback with the post-up fadeaway. That's the MJ he mimicked. He did not mimic Air Jordan. He mimicked Michael Jordan.

The first 10 years of Coding. So when he averaged 37, 38, all of them was dunks and threes? Who? Michael Jordan. But I didn't ask you who he was playing. You can't fucking fit hairs with me, nigga. I didn't ask you who he was playing against. Yeah.

I'm just saying. I didn't say who he was playing against. Y'all niggas want to bring shit. It's an argument. Don't nobody fucking bring up. I didn't say who the fuck he was playing against. No, he wasn't mid-range dominant. No.

He wasn't mid-range dominant when he first came in. So what all these? No, so Kobe didn't dunk. Kobe don't know that, nigga. He might hit a mid-range or two. He didn't mid-range dominant. No. He wasn't mid-range dominant when he first came in. So what all these... No, so Kobe didn't... Kobe don't know that, niggas. In threes. He might hit a mid-range or two. He didn't. So he had 30 steps, 38 points a game.

They took the three-point line away. All layups. They took the three-point line away. The same shit that Allen Iverson was doing, Michael Jordan was doing. Okay, so... Same exact shit. Okay, so... Layups, middies.

Okay, no, no. Okay, let's break it down. You said you said Kobe. You said they took it away. No, they didn't. Hey, man, no more for him. They're like, this nigga's case should be taken home. No more for this nigga.

No, the argument is for some water, some milk. No, the argument is using MJ's faith weight. He crazy. No, what year did Kobe look like MJ? When he changed his number. 45. When he got old. Okay, so Kobe Bryant's first 10 years in the league, he was Kobe Bryant.

Okay. He was afro. Okay. He was leg sleeve. So he didn't look like MJ. No. He was Kobe Bryant. Number 24 looked like which Michael Jordan? Yes. The older afro. Okay. He was legs Lee. He didn't look like MJ. No, I was Kobe Bryant number 24 Look like which Michael Jordan. Yes, the older Michael Jordan. Okay, the 1998 Michael

Okay, Phil Jackson have a conversation with Kobe Bryant like Kobe. Let's make it a little bit easier Let's watch this Michael Jordan film and show you how to slow the game down go one dribble pull up Okay, dribble pull up. So this is the end of number eight, though. The 81 game, he started to reach that level of understanding. Oh, let me go here. So basically, you're saying one year, Kobe did something better than Jordan when

Jordan was 34, 35 years old. And you're saying this is a carbon copy of a man who's 34 to 35, but you do not want to talk about the nigga that came in the league averaging 37, 35, 31 because no one looks like that

guy. So when they say Anthony Edwards look like Michael Jordan, they're not talking about six rings Michael Jordan. They're talking about the nigga who is coming down, jumping, and dunking on everybody. Nobody compares Kobe to that. Y'all pretend that this nigga didn't even exist. Aaron Jordan, MJ, the wings nigga.

The nigga said, you know what? Fuck it. We're going to do this on him. We're going to bring him this. So you pretend he didn't exist. Because Mike wasn't winning anything then. Because you physically can't. He physically wasn't that dude.

But he physically wasn't this dude. No matter what year. You got to remember. Wait, wait, wait. You said you physically can't. He physically wasn't that dude. But he physically wasn't this dude. No matter what year. You got to remember. Wait, wait, wait. You said you physically can't. He physically couldn't be that Michael Jordan. Like, nigga, I can't physically do your moves. I don't have the jumping ability.

So when you're talking about Michael Jordan, think about Kobe in 96. When Jordan comes back, what age was Kobe? He's only looking at this Michael Jordan. He don't know what this Michael Jordan. He can't mimic it. He was watching that Michael Jordan, bro. We all was watching that. That was Allen Iverson. That's more Allen Iverson style.

That's true. Where do you stand on this argument? That's that evolution. That's the evolution of the guard. He made it real, though. He ever doing none of that shit. Michael Jordan looked at 18. He couldn't even go left. Look at Kobe at 18. We're not talking about that shit. I'm stupid. Michael Jordan looked at 18. He couldn't even go left. And look at Kobe at 18. Y'all don't know that.

We're not talking about that. Thank you, man. Can we compare Michael Jordan at 18 to Kobe at 18? How y'all not talking about that? Let's start doing that, Michael Jordan at 18. Let's start doing that. You're talking about one stop, and it's getting like this. A nigga's wide open, slid this thing, and it got famous.

Fuck that. That nigga did this at 22, shot the shot for game, and nigga got famous. Kobe up here crossing niggas, dunking on niggas at 18. First of all, what you mean? Let's go. Let's go. That's just how Kobe played. The nigga had two points.

The nigga made a game left. The nigga made a game left. The nigga made a game left-handed. So hilarious. A whole Michael Jordan did not? No. That's Larry Bird. Michael Jordan did not.

Michael Jordan was drunk every day. Stop! Stop! That nigga had two points in the game, and that was the only two points he had. He did this. Who did that? Michael Jordan, the championship game in Carolina, he said.

Bye. And if the nigga didn't get passed, too, nobody's going to know Michael Jordan. They ain't know Michael Jordan, James Word, he didn't pass it. I know he Haiti passed it. You serious? That could have been me. I know he Haiti passed it. That could have been me. That's supposed to be passed. I know he hate me My fucking nobody wearing no words words is fucking do I have to hearing all this boy drunk already no you're not telling no just

see him there's no there's nothing to that came out of your mouth. You didn't either. You didn't see MJ at 18 either. Nothing you said was true. I know he wasn't dunking on Joe. Kobe Bryant. He got a 48-inch vertical at 18. We don't know who he was dunking on. Did you see it at North Carolina? Yeah. You didn't see the nigga do a block

and he hit his head on the backboard? What did you see at North Carolina? Kobe ain't don't know what the backboard look like with his head. He didn't have that kind of jumping ability. Two different athletes. Who was the best player in college basketball? Who was the best player?

I don't know. You don't know, right? Your basketball head is no. I wasn't born. I know you wasn't born, but you can still go back and find out who the best basketball player was. Oh, so you want me to Google? Oh, so you want me to Google?

Oh, okay. I got to Google. If you know, you know. No, you ain't got to Google. Who was in college? Who was in college? Liam Byers. Nigga? Yeah. Say it again. Say who? Who?

You don't know who? I know who Liam Byers is. Where he go to school? Huh? Maryland. Where did he get picked? What number did he get picked? Boston Celtics. I know where he got picked.

One, right? No, he ended. One, right? Number one. Yeah, it's a blue suit. Number one. He was that nigga. Oh, Lord, man.

No, I'm just saying. Second pick. He was the second pick Oh, Lord, man. No, I'm just saying. Second pick. He was the second pick of the draft. Number two. He was number two to Boston, but he was a strictly three-man, four-man

that couldn't really do much. He was just athletic. He was not like a guard. He wasn't a guard-like player. He wasn't a shooting guard like Mike. He was a power four. He was an undersized, power four type of player. He wasn't a shooting guard like Mike. He was a power forward. He was a undersized power forward type of

player. Mid-range. He was not an athletic Michael Jordan type of player. Rashad, you asked who was the best player. We can't even go. We ain't seen none of these guys. Jordan was the best player. I know he was. Say it again.

Jordan was the best player. You tried. I know he was. Say it again. Jordan was who? I asked. Jordan was the best player in college. No, you tried to make a statement. Say it again. So Jordan was the best player in college basketball. No. He won. Huh? He won the award.

He won the award. How much did he average? He won the award. 120. That's the best player in college basketball. He won the award. It don't matter. No, this is the next year.

And Ralph Sampson before that won the two before. Twice. So this computer is very useful. I'm just going to say that. Ralph was gone when Mike won it. When Mike won it, everybody had just left with the draft. No, no, Lin Bias is still there. When Mike won it?

Yeah, when Mike was in college. Yeah, that's why they still deem Lin Bias better than Mike. Who did? The consensus of the paper. Mike's junior year, he averaged. Especially the people that I look up to, they say Lin Bias was that nigga. No. Who did? The consensus of the paper and the- Mike's junior year, Mike's junior year average- Especially the people that I look up to, they say Len Bias was that nigga. Mike's junior year, he averaged 20 and 5.

And what did Len Bias average that year? We're pulling it up right now, Gil, okay? In college? I don't even know why we talking about college. Who gives a fuck about your college stats? Yeah, what was the question? When you get to the pros, you get to the pros. We just talking about that Kobe's better.

They bringing up some more irrelevant shit. Kobe's better. Some more irrelevant shit. Kobe's better. They bringing up some- irrelevant shit. More irrelevant shit. Kobe's better. They bringing up some more irrelevant shit. Kobe better than Mike. To move the gold post to make a fucking argument and bring up some shit that don't fucking matter

what we're talking about. He going for Kobe because Kobe gave you some shoes, dog. No, he did. But still, he was 18 in the league. Kobe bust your ass in practice. That's my nigga. Know what type of shit Kobe had to go through? What?

Mike ain't never. Mike ain't never. Let's go play. Put Mike in there. Let's go play baseball ain't never. Mike ain't never. Let's go play. Let's go play a little baseball. Let's go play some golf and shit. Put Mike in the lead at 18. Lin Baez, 84 average, 15 and 7. But let's get back to the actual.

But that was a sophomore year. That was a sophomore year. What did he average as a junior? Junior year he averaged 19 and 7. How much Michael Jordan averaged his freshman year? 18, 19? 13 again. 14. 14 and 4.

With a number. I averaged more than that. I averaged more than that. No. I averaged more than that. No. I averaged more than that. College scale.

You was the best player on the team. 15. I averaged more than y'all. You was the best player on the team. He wasn't the best player on the team. I had the good idea. I had the good idea. Hey, man, look.

I think I had to go to college. That's how good I was. I skipped that motherfucker. One had to go to college. I skipped that motherfucker. Me and Dwight. They didn't let me go out of high school like that. First of all, Daryl Dawkins came out back then too. Who was better?

That nigga so good he could go to North Carolina. Which one better? Different type. Nigga, they couldn't go to the league then. Daryl Dawkins. Daryl Dawkins. Daryl Dawkins. Sean Kim. Sean Kim.

Sean Kim with the college. Sean Kim with the college. Daryl Dawkins out of high school. Thank you. Moseley Malone was out of high school. What did they have to go through to do it? Dwight Howard went out of high school. Fucking hell. Swat. Hell. It wasn't go through to do it? Dwight Howard went out of high school. Fucking hell. If you heard a nigga was a player.

Swat? Hell. It wasn't a thing to do then. I saw an AK. But it was a thing to do if you were good enough. It was, if you were good enough. Yes. If you was good enough.

If you was good enough to leave it. Definitely. Definitely. Stop, stop, stop. So you brought a freak out that dunked the basketball for a living and compared if they would be good enough. 13 to game. 13 to game your freshman year it

doesn't sound like you're supposed to be a no but james worthy on your team whoever on your goddamn team nigga he came into the league everyone's 28 you wasn't supposed to go to the league out of high school if you average 13 as a freshman in college with a number one player in the country so what did the dudes so what did the dudes that went to besides a certain average when they got to the league at 18 years old. Today, today you averaged 13. You were top five. Yeah, that's today.

That's when the league is trash. You can just throw niggas in there. You said the league. You might as well draft Scooby-Doo. You draft Scooby-Doo back then? Name everybody that has shoe deals. We go Mark Lee. The league. David Robertson.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The league, when Jordan came into the league, when Jordan came into the league, when Jordan came to the league, it was just Magic, Magic, Bird, and then that kind of league. It was like Converse. All right, so who else? Name a Trump five guard. So what does that have to do with Jordan?

What does that have to do with anything? Who's better? That's the dude. Who's better? That's competition. Who you going against? What does that have to do with anything? If you playing It's competition. Who you going against? What is that? No, no, no.

If you playing against Elo, when I'm playing against D-Wade, that's totally different. But that's a different conversation. Come on, bro. That's a different conversation. Why are we moving? Don't poke. That's a different conversation.

Why are we moving? And it's the Tony's team. First place is Elo. It's the second best team. No, no, no. That's a different conversation. Come on, bro. When Michael Jordan was dominating, who was the dominant?

No, no, no. The way that D-Wade going to have to go. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Come on. What the fuck? Different conversation. That's like fucking McCullough and Garvey. It's McCullough, Garvey, and Kobe. He's going for a hundred. A hundred. A hundred.

Who played against them? A fucking hundred. Wait. If the question is who played's Austin Reeves calling Kobe. Austin Reeves and Kobe. Austin Reeves like, kick up. What I'm saying is if the question is who played against better shooting guards, Kobe. But that's not the conversation we're having. Not at all. We're not having that conversation.

Kobe played against a better shooting guard. That is... Yes. I didn't want to bring shit up to win an argument. That's all. That has nothing to do with the argument. Nothing to do with the fucking argument. Because you can just say all right Jordan is number one

Sure, better player call me played against the conference away better AI Ray out everybody has a better competition Not the conversation where you said he's a carpet we started this off as oh you said he's a car You said he's a carpet hopper. I never said that. I never said that. You said he did his moves better. You said he did his moves better. I'm saying which move. It does matter. No.

You know why it matters? It don't matter. Because people might go to his counter. It don't matter. If you can't go there. Because I know this. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you why.

Kobe Bryant made a move. Let me tell you this. Kobe created a move. Kobe created a move, right? You know who he created a move against? It was the reverse pivot. I think it was in a preseason game. I'm mistaken.

It was pump fake, reverse pivot, boom. It was on him? No, it was against a greater defender. Okay. What the? No, it was against him. No, when he was in Denver. Okay, no, let him finish. It was against him. No, no, no. When he was in Denver. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was the first time we'd ever seen the move before the New York City. It was against him. Created the move because the defense, he made him do a counter. He had to go to counter. Oh, so counter. Counters, counters, counters, counters. Mike didn't have to go to counters. He went straight to the two dribble.

Bong, bong. Imagine niggas playing, niggas being good enough to make you go to three counters. You're in the corner. You got two niggas on you. You go, oh, shit. Oh, he over here. Oh, I'm going to fade anyway.

They like this. For three. You see that shot he made over? For three. I got it, I got it. For three. You seen that shot he made over? Oh, it's two seconds on the clock.

I got D Wade and another nigga on me. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Let me bank that shit for game on Christmas. On Christmas. Let me dunk on Dwight. Merry Christmas, niggas. Oh, my bad. What the fuck are y'all talking about?

Hey, man, listen. I ain't gonna lie. What are you talking about? Shake his head. Shake his head. Shake that nigga's head. What are we talking about? Now, do you see the shirt. Shake that nigga's hand. What are we talking about? Now, do you see the shirt I got on?

Do you know the nigga that he dunked on? This nigga right here is the best shot blocker of all time. I'm sorry, since you don't possess. All time. Since you don't possess. He almost jumped over the nigga. I'll let you talk. You ready?

You might want to back up a little bit. This is number eight. Since you want to back up a little bit. This ain't even number 24. He's going to fill me on this one. Uh-oh. Don't fill him. Don't fill him. You said Kobe Bryant had to do a bunch of moves, right?

Counters. Counters. The reason niggas like us didn't have counters, because our first move couldn't be stopped. Whoa, I let you talk. I let you eat point guard. I let you eat. Hold on. I let you eat.

You're playing against me. I let you eat. My first move against Kobe lunched me. I didn't have no counters because you couldn't stop the first move because I was faster than you. Jordan wasn't stopped. The whole team wasn't worried about me. Jordan wasn't stopped because He was Jordan wasn't stopped because we'll have the athleticism Kobe was one person looking at okay. How about I want you to be true. I want you to be truthful

Yeah, who was more athletic you were cold you had shut up. Who was more athletic you were Kobe Kobe. They got never dispe Exactly I never did spit. Exactly. Exactly. He being honest. He being honest. He being honest. Look at this. He being honest. Since it matters who guards people, right? No.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. You talking about he had to create a move against who? All right, I'm wondering about that. You. What position did I play? Four. Yeah. No, he talking about your team.

No, no, no, me. No, no, no, no, no, no. He played the Kenyan. No, he played the four. He said them. No, no, no, no, no. He played the four. No, he said the team. He said them. No, no, no, no, no. The reason why Kenyon had to guard him is because nobody else on that team got the chance. I played the four.

Nobody else. That's for Rudy Gay. He knew he could. That was for Rudy Gay. I'm playing. But the argument is Kobe had to do moves because Kobe wasn't physically gifted enough to get by the person the first time. He wasn't physically gifted. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa. I can't believe you just said that. He's not physically gifted enough to go buy a nigga on the first move? He just talked about the big... So what does he need a second or third move for? How does a book... One, two, three.

Why do you need two, three if you get the first way on my first move? If you're not playing defense, that's how they go by you. You in the way. A non-defender. How can you score anyone with secondary moves? No, no, no, no, no.

Stop, man. He's talking about nigger had two, three moves and Jordan just had a one-two pull-up. The reason the one-two pull-up, they couldn't stop the one-two. What the fuck do I need a counter for? What I'm saying is if you cannot stop right boom you can't stop't get by you. I'm not going to have to go to a secondary move if Austin Reeves is guarding me. I don't have to go to a secondary move.

How many moves does Fox have? If I got Drew Holiday on me, I got to go to my secondary move. Okay, look. How many moves does Fox have? Hold on. How many moves does Fox have? One. How many moves did John Wall have? One. One, right? How many moves did Fox have? Hold on. How many moves does Fox have? One. How many moves did John Wall have?

One, right? How many moves did Westbrook have? They don't need, you can't stay in front of them. They don't need no moves. This is what he's saying. If you're slow. If you get one person, the next person in there. That step up.

Yes, secondary. I got a counter for that. No, we're not talking about that. We're talking about having counters. No, we are talking about counters. Counters. Yes How slow is Luca obviously What is the step back? What is the step back? What is the step back? What is the step back? There's four niggas what you saying. There's 40 niggas. That's what happened. That's what happened. That's what happened.

That's what happened. That's what happened. That ain't what you saying. Hold on. We need the horn. We need the... That ain't what you saying. That ain't what you saying.

That ain't what you saying. That ain't what you saying. That ain't what you saying. I said he made you. Get him, Brandon. If the niggas is... Get him. get up. Hey Watch I built Raja Bell made Kobe do counter moves, right? Yeah, he made

Kobe had these new these extra moves. So when he played against Rajah Bell, he had counters and did all this. I played against Rajah Bell. He didn't make me do an extra move. Not one extra move. Not an extra move. I got it. Kobe, how many defensive players in your Kobe have? He didn't make me do one extra move.

You're playing the point guard. One crossover. You're playing the point guard. I don't need another move. I got you with the first one. You're playing the point guard. One four flat. You're playing the point guard. I don't need another move. I got you with the first one plan the point What for flat you plan the point? I don't need to stop and do this. I don't see I'm faster. He's nobody's You had fucking

What I'm saying Boy I'm not doing a Fulmer disrespect. I'm fast. What about the other white boy? Stop playing, man. Stop. Steve Blake. You have Steve Blake. The slower you are, the more moves you need. Come on, Butler. Stop.

That's true. That's true. As long as I got a bag, it don't matter how slow or fast I am. I have options. It's about options. am. I have options. It's about options Do with a step back or everybody else that's not a counter that's a lot. How come all the Physically gifted in everybody. How come they don't have LeBron James? He don't have the move No one's stopping this first fucking move do stop and stop. And when they do, what do you do? When you stop the first move, what happens? He stops.

And he throws it. He don't got no other counter. Him. He got no counter. He doesn't have the foot speed. You know what, man? He's like the Lord. Like Chris Paul didn't have foot speed.

He needs moves. Jordan had one dribble to the hole. Thank you. Can we put Nick's tweet back up? He needed everything else. Can we put Nick's tweet back up and back to the question at hand before we veer it off subject? You need 100 moves.

No, I don't. You need them. I don't need no dribbles. I've already showcased I need nothing but space. I need nothing but space and opportunity. Jab, jab, jab. Block. You're not like that. You're not like that. I need nothing but space and opportunity. I'll jab, jab, jab. You not like that.

If I got to put it on the ground, I like that. Whatever I got, I got a bag. Nigga, I got a one, two, three. What you want? Tell me what you want. I'm going to give it to you. All right, back to Nick's tweet. What's up?

Back to Nick's tweet and the question. That's why you playing in Malibu, nigga. I wore the Malibu it to you. All right back to Nick's tweet. What's back to Nick's tweet in the question plan in Malibu nigga I would have Malibu had for you. What? Was a counter move who went one way bring it back nigga legs legs go counter move. No, that was one move. There's one move Guys all guys fast. They don't have a lot of moves The slower you are Here I want you to the slower you are the more moves you need Hey, offensively, hold on. He got to slow down. He got to slow down. Load up on the fast digger. He got to slow down. We loading up on Gil. We loading up on BJ.

What are you going to do now? What are you going to do now? What you going to do now? Average 29. He ain't got no power. What you going to do now? The same thing you did when I played. What you going to do now?

The same thing you did when I played. He going to pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball.

Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Get off it, Gilbert. Get off it. You ball hogging, Gilbert. Get off it. 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, 37, Yeah, but they love me. Where was the load up when I was having a 37 against you? I had 34 off the bench.

So what? So what? It don't matter. So what? Where was the load up? You were like this the whole time. Where was the load up? You guys are athletic, right?

I had 34 on Denver. Where was the load up? What I'm saying is you guys are athletic, right? How many counter moves do you need the same counter moves as somebody like Jokic? No. No. Yes. The athletic people just use their athleticism.

When he was in the air, that wasn't a counter move. When he was in the air, he was doing all this shit. All that. Like yo pitch no no yes He said he needed count or move to get the shot off. You're talking about two different things. Stop talking about you're defending him or some shit he said. Or some shit he said. He left his feet and jumped through four fucking people. I jumped already. I'm talking about getting by somebody. So back to the question, if I may. If I may do some hosting.

Which I still don't understand. I'm trying to get my... Lexi, how you doing? Just a minute. I don't know why y'all sat me right here. I thought this was saying that MJ... You guys needed to sit me next to King. We were hopeful that...

That Kyrie is better than MJ. No. I'm saying that Kyrie is better than Curry. I know. I should have been sitting there before we started. We don't want to talk about that. So Nick, let's talk about that. Why are you not scared to say Kyrie is better than Steph?

I said people are scared. Oh, so people are not scared. I don't... I like Kyrie. But the way people talk about... Well, you know what? I like both. But the way people talk about Kyrie is not the same way people talk about Kyrie.

Should it be? They say Kyrie got everything he's so tamed. Tap, tap, dance, tap, tap, tap, dance. Go real. Tap, tap, dance. People talk about curry. They say Kyrie Nah nah nah you following through So Kyrie better than Curry? No, nigga. I don't like... I think shots is better than handles. But they say Kyrie better. When you hear Draymond,

ain't nothing he don't got. He's the most talented person in the league. Kyrie. I never hear people say that about Steph. I hear he's the best shooter. Yep. That's all I hear. Kyrie, the most...

I don't see Steph doing that left-hand game winner. I would never see Steph do that. I don't think I could see that. Shit like that. That's what I'm saying. I think Curry got more in his bag than Steph do. So rolling out the ball... I can't say it,

but people put the championship over Curry and over everybody else, like they do with Kobe and Jordan. Right. So you got to go rolling out the ball career, because people are going to go career numbers. You know people who like careers. If you said roll out the ball who's the better player? Yeah. I mean Kyrie.

Kyrie run when they played against each other. Just rolling out the ball? What happened? I think KD was the finals MVP. But no, no, no. LeBron or KD rolling out the ball? No, no. We're talking about Curry and Steph.

We're talking about Curry and... But he had to work with Steph. We're talking about Curry and Steph. But if you had... Kyrie and Steph. Kyrie and Steph. Kyrie and Steph rolling out the ball. Kyrie going to Duke was...

Rolling out the ball. Who you got? He got Kyrie. For sure. Lexi, who do you have? I got Kyrie. I got Kyrie. I just want to hear you talk.

No. Because I got Kyrie. No. You are a vital part of this show. I'm going Kyrie. Yo, man, we got to get Kyrie on this show. Kyrie rolling got Kyrie. No. You are a vital part of this show. I'm going Kyrie. Yo, man, we got to get Kyrie on this show. Kyrie rolling out the ball. Yeah.

Better player. Thank you. Everybody say it. Who you got? But they scared a minute in real life. Look at this, Nick. He trying to figure out how to win the contest. No, no.

It's the win. Which answer can I? Which answer can I? Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. I learned from the best. I learned from the best. I learned from the best. Come on.

I learned from the best. Can we tap? I learned from the best. I learned from the best. I learned from the best. Come on. I learned from the best. I learned from the best. Can we talk? You wrote that basically Kyrie is better than Curry. Don't. We asked you the question. Roll the ball now. Who better?

If people want to know. He steals, he's stalling. He's going to say. They play one-on-one? No, no. Crash in the head. Balls in the lap. They're playing one.

Listen. They're playing one. Three dribbles. You know the rules, Gil. If they're playing one, three dribbles, I'm going Kyrie. Kyrie. Yeah. One.. They're playing one. Three dribbles. You know the rules, Gil. If they're playing one, three dribbles, I'm going Kyrie. Kyrie. Yeah.

One. That's not the question. That's not the question. I said rolling the ball out, who's a better player? Not who wins. Rolling out the ball. Rolling the ball out is one on one, right? Yes.

Rolling out the ball is three goal run. That's how I interpreted that question. I said the eye contest. That's what I said. It's not NBA. We're not saying NBA. We're just saying like rolling contest. It's not NBA. We're not saying NBA. We're just saying like rolling off the ball. Not NBA.

Oh, so like it's somebody who knows nothing about either one and they go watch NBA play. They're going to pick Kyrie. So let's start before they were pros, right? So that's where you got to take it from before they were pros. So we can't do that before we enjoy it? Kyrie's the only nigga that went to Duke. We're not talking about that right now.

We moved on from it. We have moved that right now. We moved on from it. We have moved on Nick. We moved on from it. 18 years old. We talking about rolling out the ball. Who was more skilled? Who was better?

At 18 years old. Kyrie. Kyrie. Kyrie Irving. Bro, did you see Kyrie at fucking St. Patrick's? Did you see Steph Curry at Davidson?

No, no, seriously. Did you see Steph Curry at 18? We was in high school. Did you see Steph Curry in high school? No. Did you see Steph Curry in high school? No, did you see Steph Curry in high school? No. Okay.

I did, I did see some of the highlights. He had like a documentary. Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, now compare that to... That's why you went to Davidson and... Okay, now compare that to Kyrie Irving's in high school. What would the Davidson... Kyrie was cold.

But obviously... It don't matter where you went to school. We just said the same thing about that at Kobe and Jordan at 18. Kyrie played 11 games at Duke and were number one. And nobody ever would know. Rolling the ball out? Kobe Bryant. We didn't, none of us saw Jordan at 18. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. Nobody saw Jordan at 18. Nobody on this mix saw Curry at 18. I'm going for what y'all saying. You seen him? Did you even think of Curry at 18? No. No.

You didn't think of a guy that went to a D3? That's not. That's his argument. But why are we bringing that up? What was the number one player. No. That's his argument. What was the number one player at 18? That's the argument. Right. So now, they both have had time to perfect their craft. Yes.

So I said 30, so me and B had a conversation over this now, right? When you ask, I'm like, damn, 30 a bad man with that ball in his hand still, right? 30 got that thing over this now, right? When you ask, I'm like, damn, 30 a bad man with that ball in his hand still, right? 30 got that thing on the string, right? But he said Steph had to really work at it. He could always shoot it, but he really had to get to this, right? So at 18, Kyrie already had this.

Now he can finish and do all those things, right? So now he's had to work at it. It's still a tough-ass question, right? If you take away team. If you take away team, you take away 50% of Curry's basketball. Because he's good with the ball, but his off the ball is just as dangerous.

You take away that, and it's just play with the ball. But that's the skill. We got to go back to Kai's first couple years. That's all I'm going to do is goal post. Thank you. Who do you have? Yeah, who do you have? Oh, my God. But it's still a skill. We got to go back to Kai's first couple of years. That's all moving to Gold Post. Thank you. Who do you have? Yeah, who do you have?

Who do you have? Oh my God. Who do you have? Listen, it's a different... I pass. Okay, I'll take it back. It's like you telling everybody to move to Gold Post, but we don't even know who you're just listening to.

I'm just listening. You have Curry? Curry had to work on his game. Kobe had to work on his game. Kobe had to work on his game. Kobe had to work on his game. Kobe had to work on his game. I said Kyrie is rolling it that one-on-one.

He got Kyrie. What the fuck are y'all arguing about there? I said people. That's what I said. Yeah, everybody need a shot. You got Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie. No, no. I'm trying to put us all together.

No, what I'm saying is. No, no, no. Wait, wait. You still haven't given an answer. Don't answer the question. He said Kyrie. You said Kyrie. And he said Kyrie.

So what are y'all arguing about? I'm going to step. NBA career, I'm going out the ball, Kyrie. He said Kyrie. Who you saying? NBA career, I'm going Steph. NBA career, I'm going Steph. NBA career, I'm going Steph. But rolling out the ball, I'm going Kyrie. Dang.

I mean, just because the NBA is... But how is that just... How do you expect that rolling the ball out, but then you put the career, you're choosing another thing? I'm not trying to put the career. I'm talking about the eggs. Because it's a team game. Oh, just hooping. Oh, yeah.

I mean, just hooping. Hooping against other people just hooping. Oh, yeah. I mean, OK, I mean, I'm going to go with Kyrie. Oh, well, then, yeah, I mean, Kyrie came in a number. I mean, you see what Kyrie did his first couple years in Cleveland? By himself? OK, so we only know the ball. Kyrie was an all-star by himself. We got Brund and KD.

And his champions. They both. Because he's over KD on the team and all that, yeah. Wait, you said what? No, his team. Now he plays in a team atmosphere. But do you think if Steph had the same career with no championships, people would be comparing him with Kyrie still?

No. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. Wait, you said what? That's an if. If you have the same numbers but no championships with Kyrie. Because people are still putting Kyrie way up here, and you only got one championship.

See, I don't want to do the championships. We're kind of talking about skill set. But I'm saying, but if you take all of Steph's chips away, his team's success, is this conversation still happening all the time? No. I don't think so. If Steph is still doing what he's doing, then what? It doesn't take away from either one of them, but I'm just saying.

Listen, listen. No, no, no. If it looks the same, if it looks the same with no chips, we're exciting. That's why I said AIA. I don't think so. No, you remember what he was doing. He's a point guard that wasn't averaging assists. He was just a shooting guard.

So what ends up happening is he just becomes a selfish player like the rest of us did. He changed the narrative because he won doing it which never happened before Oh, yeah, so him playing this style of a point guard, but he shot first didn't lead his team in assists He became successful, right? So it's like oh shit you can win with the small guard being your point guard other than that The first for the only person that did it was Isaiah Thomas. No one ever had that but Steph. So Steph and Isaiah Thomas,

in the last 40-something years, are the only two guards that won championships being the most dominant player. So his narrative changed. Who was the all-star first? Who was the all-star first, Kyrie or Steph? No, I said people would have said he would have been selfish because that guard scoring and not passing like everybody else

would have been considered selfish. He's not winning. Maybe he's not winning. He's the Dame Lillard type guard. Yes. I feel like they both held it down for when they played. Yeah, that's what it is. He becomes Dame Lillard.

I feel like they both held it down. Kyrie was holding it down. That's a credit. That's how good people think Kyrie is without really getting real credit because they're always trying to win. But once he was aiming Kyrie in the same-star. Good people think Kyrie is without really giving him real credit. But once he won the game and Kyrie in the same ref. Come on, Kyrie. That package.

No, no. So Kyrie gets a pass. Kyrie was an all-star before Steph. But once he was in the fourth. Kyrie all-star 2013. Steph was all-star 2014. Kyrie? Yeah. No, Kyrie's Kyrie.

Because he's been so dominant for so long. That's why he's an all-star. That's why Kyrie. Yeah, how we know Kyrie's Kyrie because he's been so dominant That's like all-star like that's like high school college number one big crazy in Cleveland first. Yeah When Ron left Kyrie held it down. No, he left So he came in the league two years later. Two years later, they laid off her. Yeah. But I mean, we can't let Steph, Steph, Steph Angles as fuck. Then that's a Steph Angles as fuck. Because I played against him as a rookie. And I'm like, ah, damn. Oh, that's why we have a moment. Anybody else want a shot?

Anybody else want to be Mr. Big? No, listen. I want to do the Dwight thing. No, listen. I think everybody should take a stop because nobody can pick. He didn't ask me. He didn't ask me.

I did. I said, I said, I said Kyrie. But I wanted to see about the KD versus Braun. Yes. Rolling the ball out. Rolling the ball out. You just throw the ball out. KD.

KD for sure. No careers. KD. KD. We at Rico Runs. KD is 195. We at Brickley. What's his name?

Chris Brickley. Chris Brickley, yeah. And we hooping. One on one. Yo, I got LeBron James. I got LeBron James. I got LeBron James. Against KD? Against KD. I love both. What's his name Chris Chris Briggs and we hoop Against KD against K level 101. I'm gonna take a shot to that one Thank you

Because the game what you want what you do he's not gonna do that. Yes, he would it don't matter Play ones you win they play one of you that the Olympic 2008 See that's You see I'm saying about your fucking hair? Niggas are scared to play one. No, no, no, no, no. Scary-ass niggas. Hey! Scary-ass. Scary-ass. We played one in this game. He had practice for two hours. Niggas want to play one. He was on the team.

He was on the team in Olympic. What was I doing? Gilbert was cooking everybody. Nobody want this action. I will say that. Gilbert was cooking everybody. Everybody. It didn't matter who was in front of him.

So when he came back, that's when I knew. I yeah, he's gonna go crazy. He was mad as hell We was that was that career. I wasn't hurt was that Korea? Was that Korea where they let you go? Yeah. Yeah Killing everybody Same day Well one-on-one, we throw the ball out there. They had to sub me out. I'm like, I am kind of fooled.

Who would you be in that era with George? If you was playing, if you dropped Gil off in that era, would you be the best nigga in the era? They'd be like, damn, Gil George. Kevin Johnson giving that nigga work. Work. Kevin Johnson. Kevin Johnson, 20 and 10. That's what I'm saying, bro nigga Kevin Johnson giving that nigga work. Work! Kevin Johnson? Kevin Johnson 20 and 10.

What are we saying, bro? Kevin Johnson over Gil? I'm taking a second to the Korean staff debate. Nah, Gil's fat. Two different guards. I love them both. He's been fat all his life. Both my boys.

Everybody going KD on LeBron, John. Except for BJ. He going LB. You going James. You going LeBron? I'm going LeBron. No, I'll take a shot to that. I'm going LeBron. Lexi, KD a shot at that. I'm going LeBron.

Lexi, KD. Shot. You can check KD real quick. You gotta take a shot. Because Ron scored 40,000. Shot! And I'm not going against somebody that scored 40,000. You know I don't be drinking on this show.

Gil, who you going with? I'll be drinking with y'all. One on one? Kyrie. Kyrie or LeBron. One on one. Kyrie or LeBron. AD. Not Kyrie, but KD.

LeBron. AD. Do y'all remember LeBron James? What do y'all think of LeBron James? I came in the league before you. KD. Do y'all remember LeBron James? What do y'all think of LeBron James? I came in and leave before you. No, but what do you think of LeBron James? You was in high school when I had the- Just because it looks better don't mean it's better.

No, just a one-on-one. Just because this shit looks better- He's a basketball player, not a- KD, do this on the thing. I'm taking you over LeBron James. What are you talking about? No, not- One-on-one?

You can't bully a nigga with three dribbles. One-on-one? Are we talking three dribbles or we talking one-on-one? You can't bully a nigga with three dribbles. One-on-one? Are we talking three dribbles or three steps? We're talking three dribbles. Three dribbles? What's up? You know that you know that you know. I'm picking you 100 over LeBron James.

Your son is top 10 in the world. Can he beat you right now in one-on-one? No, because I'm a one-on-one player. Thank you. You're stronger. I'm a one-on-one player. I'm going to bust your ass right now. You can't even move.

What are you talking about? One-on-one player. Can your son beat you right now? Yes, yeah. Your son better than Austin Richards. Elijah, bust your ass right now. You can't even move. What are you talking about? One-on-one play? Can your son beat you right now? Your son better than Austin Reeves. Elijah, bust your ass right now at once. Huh? Hop my ass a few huns you can hear. Y'all been throwing mad shots at Austin Reeves today.

Did y'all just... I got fake ones. Did Austin get all y'all buckets right? No, no, no. Austin went through shit. Get who? Get who buckets? What did Austin Reeves do to you in the last 24 hours?

Did you say Austin or Austin Reeves? Damn. Who'd you say? Austin Reeves? to you in the last 24 hours? Did you say Austin Reeves or Austin Rivers? Who'd you say, Austin Reeves? I think I just need to limit that. There's no way y'all think y'all can beat Austin Reeves. I don't know. They talking about they can beat y'all right now. They're not beating on Lake Green. Cut that shit out.

Where's the Dell threat? The Dell three. All right, my bad. Eldrick Campbell playing against Jordan. So, Dwight, we got you on the couch. We got to ask you

some questions. Obviously, we appreciate you pulling up, taking time out of your schedule. Everybody, make sure you like and subscribe to the Above the Rim

with DH12 podcast. We talked about you playing over in Taiwan. Do you still want to play with the league? And if so, what do you feel like you could bring

to a team right now? Boston. Boston. Do still want to play with the league? And if so, what do you feel like you could bring to a team right now? Boston. Boston. Do I want to play in the league still? Boston. Man. I don't know, man. I think it's about time, man.

Your choice. I think it's, you know, I love the game. I've always loved it, but I put in so much work, so much time. It's like now I want to give that time to the kids. Okay. I done sacrificed so much time, so much time, it's like, now I want to give that time to the kids. Okay. I done sacrificed so much time and weight to have to train and do all that stuff. And, you know, the kids is getting older,

and it's important that I'm there with them as they're getting older and their journeys in sports and school and stuff like that. So, you know, it's getting there. It's getting there, man. So if a team's like, here's Dwight, here's $ there. I don't know about you. You're not political. It's getting there, man. So if a team's like, here's $15 million for one year. If a team was like, here's $15 million for one year, you're saying, no, they don't make it. A team is not giving me $15 million. Let's be serious.

They're not doing that. But why? Why would they not? They ain't doing it, bro. I've been out for three years. I've been asking to get back in. I've been out for three years. I've been asking to get back in. I've been working out, doing all the little stuff. I went to Golden State last year, worked out. Everybody on the team co-signed. And then next thing you know, Steve Kerr is

like, you on the outside. Look at this. You see what he did to Tatum? He did, you Tatum'd you? So like, what am I going to sit up here and keep doing this for? So they're not giving you no real explanations? No. No. They never do when it's that point. I was outside. I went to Houston. Same shit. James was on the team. I walked in the locker room.

They like, oh, we got a real one walking in the locker room. All this shit, nigga, I ain't. Still waiting for it. Still waiting on the call back, bro. You ain't get it. Well, I get it. So I ain't feeling to sit up here and do that, man. I'd rather be at home with the kids and doing something.

The worst is like, man, why you ain't playing in the league, man? I'm tired of hearing that. You look good, man. You still playing? We can use you, man. I don't want to be used no more, goddammit. So let me ask you this. Can you go to the union and do anything about that?

To do what? To do what? I'm being completely clear. You gotta give me real explanations. No, don't do that shit. Don't listen to this. Don't listen to that nigga. One, for one, don't listen to this shit.

For one. What do you mean? Two, listen. Tell me why you're not listening. Tell him why you're not listening. Don't go there, I was just speaking up. A solid respect y'all niggas don't like what I say. Nah, we don't want to file a lawsuit against you.

Tell him why not to listen to me. Because why would he go questioning? What could the league, what going to the league? It's called collusion. You know the word? It has to be colluded if you're not giving me reasons why you're not picking me up. Why do I got to give you a reason?

Yes, they do. I got to give you a reason why I don't want to pay you my money. Niggas is calling and saying, don't pick my money. It's the reason I don't want to pay you my money. Niggas is calling and saying, don't pick my money. It's the reason I don't want to pay you my money. I went through this. I went to the deputy director and I asked. I said, listen, man, I'm getting word that they keeping me out. They're telling people not to pick me up.

And who is that? What can I do? He said, you have to get evidence. Yes. You got to get evidence of this owner, this guy having conversations. That do happen. You have to hear it. We have to, they have to say names.

I'm like, how the fuck am I going to get that kind of proof? Exactly. Yeah, you know, so you need to, you need to, you need to just be quiet. Don't even say nothing. So I couldn't, I couldn't come back knowing I was being colluded again. Your agent would tell you.

He wouldn't. He'd be like, man, they saying the bad things. This person saying something about you. And they not, and they not. And they're not saying nothing. He's got a whole roster of niggas that he could be like, yeah, it's just one. Motherfuckers talking to me. Y'all ain't like, people don't talk around people, man.

Like, it ain't nothing to do with this man's skill set. The man can still play basketball, right? It's over, man. He can play at a high level. He can still go head fucking every team out there. It doesn't matter if he can still play or not. But can he guard me? You're having fun out there.

Are you having fun in Taiwan? What's the real question? No, are you like, is it? Hey, you know I was in a Batman movie. But I mean. I was the athlete that fell in the hole. Are you falling in the hole? That difference.

That's like any hole. That's the same hole you're going to fall in. No, that's what it was when I was in Taiwan. Yeah, that's that hole. You feel like I can hoop again. That same, you see that look. It looked like a hole. It was a big bottomless.

But I don't want to come back to the NBA just to sit on the bench. And then I got to hear every night, why you not playing? Yeah, that's right. And then I got to hear from my kids, why you not playing, Dad? You know, all that stuff. And it's like, man, come on, man. But I think people should pick you up just for that Joker matchup, like if they need somebody to help them.

So I can just play one game. Hell yeah. I'm out of here. They might make a championship. I'm going to play four games on the whole season. They might make the championship. I'm like, hey. I've been advocating for that for years.

Oh, no, man. It's a deaf ear. But it's hard. It's hard when you've been in the league, and then you go, when you like, when niggas are talking down on your name, and then you go overseas, and they give you love It's all a workout. Oh, no, I'm just that's you but I'm just saying just to love just the fans

They're so happy. No, that's a fact Maybe so happy you walk into the arena and they actually happy to see you I played it like I feel like Michael Jordan on this bitch Like it made me feel alive again. Like I like Did you have a similar experience I want going out there we've seen some I like some of the clips I did I had a word experience on there just hooping Being able to work on business being able to do all that stuff and then that just afforded me the opportunity to have my own league

you know, so business, being able to do all that stuff, and then that just afforded me the opportunity to have my own league. You know, so that's like an amazing feat to be able to say, you know, I own the league and I have, you know, ownership in the team. That's in the league. And now I can provide, help provide opportunities for other players who are looking to play in the NBA or looking to play professional sports. You know, so I think that that's, that's way... They were scared. They called me and said, dude, I want to play.

And I said, yeah, but they were scared to play against men like J.R. Smith. Man, ain't nobody scared to play against you. You're supposed to be men. Let me know. You want to take the Stephan Marbury approach. Yeah, why would I stop doing what I'm doing? And I can go to a place where they love me. I can steal a hoop.

And I can provide for my family. Like, I done played in the NBA for 19 years. I done, you know, what can I prove? Yeah, and I'm with you. So. And wait till they build that statue. That shit gonna be like 30 feet tall. They're not building no statues.

You're still mad at me in Orlando. No, I'm talking about in China. In China. Shit, they build one for Stephon Marbury. Damn. Just let me know when you ready. We just tough for some shit. How was that year with Kobe and Steve Nash?

I was here with Kobe and Steve Nash. Honestly. It's difficult playing with Kobe. It is? Why is it difficult playing with Kobe? Because one, it's the expectation, you know, winning.

He wanted to win that last one. And then two, it's like, shit, everybody expected me and Kobe to be like the new Kobe and Shaq.

And I'm just coming off injury. I'm still dealing with all the mental shit from being in Orlando. And now I got to go to L.A. and I'm playing with Kobe injury i'm still dealing with all the mental from being in orlando and now i got to go to la and i'm playing with kobe bryant i watched him play they beat us in the finals one i was already pissed because i had to go to la you know nobody ever knew i didn't want to go to la that meeting you didn't you didn't want to go to the laker i didn't want to go to the lakers because i wanted to beat the lakeakers. They just beat us in the finals. So in my mind, I'm like, why would I go to the team that just beat us?

I wanted to go to Brooklyn and just start my whole career over. But I got sent to L.A. And I was like, man, I'm going to come back and we're going to try to win in L.A. And it didn't work out. And I made an emotional decision to leave. So I do regret that, making a decision an emotional decision to leave. You know, so I do regret that, you know, making a decision just based on my emotions and how I was feeling about, you know,

like we talked on the show yesterday, how the fans were, uh, how I felt the organization was during that time with me and Kobe. And I didn't really make a smart, logical decision. I just made something... I made an emotional decision at the time. You should have sat that whole year, right? I should have sat the whole year.

But I wanted to hoop, huh? You just got off the back surgery. I just had back surgery. And I tore my labrum. Steve Nash was old then at the time. He was supposed to have been, what, the back was what? I was supposed to sit out for a whole time. Remember I said he was supposed to be in what? The back was what? 10, 12 months? I was supposed to sit out for a whole year.

Whole year. But I came back in four months. Damn. I told you one of that shit next to me. I'm like, man, microfracture. Well, hold it again. You super on human niggas, man. Yeah, I was.

They took out this much of my back, my herniated disc. How much did they take out of your back? Like that. They put that much in your back? No, they took out this much of my, this in my, in my back. Did you just get what I just said? Did you get what I just said? So, Nate and Nate.

Hey, yo, hey. Stop. Hey, did you, did y'all play together? No. Fuck no, man. No, man. Yeah, you and I, y'all played together. Wow.

Oh, see. Y'all had childhood fun. I only played with you. And then he say that shit. Man, what the fuck? So, Dwight, you want to take this nigga, man? Greatest defenders in NBA history. This nigga is on three-time defensive player of the year. Let's get to this.

Only player in NBA history to win the award in three straight seasons. Only three men have won more. Those three men being Dikembe Ben Wallace and Rudy Gobert who just won his fourth defensive player of the year award this past season. So Rudy has gotten some criticism as of late for his limitations on defense. You know, everybody's been coming at him.

What's your assessment of Rudy Gobert's impact on defense? Thank you, Joe. Great question, Joseph. It's tough to say because I never want to say because, you know, I never want to say nothing negative about any players. You got to be able to just keep it a buck.

Are y'all going to do the tag? Nothing. No. No, I know what you're saying, but I don't think he deserves those defensive player of the years like he got them. I feel like he's a great team defender, but for what he did to get those defensive player of the years like he got them. I feel like he's a great team defender.

But for what he did to get those defensive player of the years, I don't see it. I don't see him being an elite defender. I see him as somebody who has the size. He's 7'2". So when you're 7'2", and you're playing with athletic guys, you don't have to do nothing but clean up their mistakes or you know just be big in the paint so

I mean it's really hard to say that he is an elite defender to have four defensive player of the year awards but I mean he did it I think this year was his best defensive year in the regular season.

You got to think. You got to think. You got to think. This year, he was actually up in the pick and rolls. He was moving his feet. He was talking more. He was actually being aggressive. The years before that, I think they just gave it to him

because of his team defense and how everybody was on the team. He's probably my least favorite defensive player of the year. Out of all of them. You got to be a dominant defensive player. People got to be afraid to enter the paint.

I feel like that's the whole thing. If you are a defensive player, as soon as you see, like if I'm seeing Kmart, I know I'm not getting by him on the pick and roll. I'm going to have to meet him at the rim, and most of the time he'll either hard foul or he blocking the shot. That's an elite defender to me.

Would you call Kmart a rim protector? Hell yeah. Thank you. Come on. Thank you. Thank you. Hell no. I love brother.

Who said he wasn't? He did. He did. You did. And we tried to tell him no. He was trying to win the argument. So he was like, I ain't done said anything. I ain't done said anything.

I ain't done said anything. Are you fucking kidding me? Because I said Marcus Camby. So I said, like, Marcus Camby was more of that for us. I said they was afraid of me right yeah you was the intimidator yeah I was intimidated yeah but so you thought either I said the same thing you said either I'm a block it or you or do your first thought was your first thought what what a hard foul that's your first

right with you yeah I'm a block this bitch yeah with me he gonna knock me on my shit first and then right now's going to go get the shots because now you're afraid of contact. So it's a different way that I looked at it, right? Yeah. But to your point, yeah, huh? How many blocks does a center have to have to be considered a player? No, you can't do that. You can't do that.

You can't do that. A game? You ain't going to block. You're not going to block all the shots. But I would say in a game, a center should get at least two blocks a game. Two, two and a half, right? Two and a half, three blocks. You should be attempting to block.

Not now because back in the day, it was easier to block shots. Guys was doing one, two, and up. Now they jumping off the wrong foot. They finishing different ways. So it's better to go up like this and then alter the shot. Was that more important than blocks? I mean, just altering the shots. Now it's more important to alter the shots.

Because back then we was trying to block shots, throw them out of bounds, and do all that stuff. we losing possessions and now it's it's a thinking they they thinking more so it's all about how many possessions we can save absolutely we was doing it different back then so how important is it for a big that can block shots 2.5 or 3 a game and not foul it's the most important thing so how many fouls a game and not foul? It's the most important thing. So how many fouls a game would it be, I guess you would say, like if he's getting four fouls a game?

That's too much. Too many, right? He's so on defense. If he's getting two blocks a game and he's only fouling two times a game. He should get only two fouls a game. So is that contributing to him being a good defender? Yeah.

OK. Because if you're playing defense, he's on the floor. Rudy Gobert. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Go ahead. Go ahead. Get your shit on. Averages 2.7 fouls per game.

They don't call a lot of fouls on him. He lunched me. 2.1 blocks a game. Okay. How many points does he give up in the paint? Which contribute to him being a good defender? But how many points are coming in the paint, though? You're not the...

That matters! It only matters because you want to move the goalpost. You're moving the goalpost from my point. You're moving the goalpost from my point. Let me ask you a question. If I score 40 points and not fouling, that contributes to him being a good defender

as a big man. I'm not fouling. And I'm getting blocked. And I'm getting blocked. He's a Googler. I'm not a Googler. You're a Googler. You're the stat man. I'll be going with that.

The chat is calling you stat man. I'm standing. Finish. Going to be stat man. No one is saying he's a bad defender. Go ahead. Finish. You guys aren't saying he's a bad defender. Go ahead Finish. Finish. Finish. Finish.

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Finish. Finish. Finish. Finish. Finish. Finish. Finish. There's two ways you can look at a defense or even offense. So you can look at it from just numbers and stats, or you can look at it from actual you played. Perspective. No, presence. You know the presence. The effect on the game.

So is his presence going to affect the game more than those other guys like Ben Wallace? Well, those are guys before him. Dikembe. Those are guys before him. Those are guys before him. We're talking about guys that are in there with him right now. All the centers that are playing.

That's what I'm saying. Let's talk about a guy who's in there right now. Go ahead. We're talking about the guys who have as many defensive player of the year awards. What I'm saying is if I come in the lane, you're a defender, Rudy, and our offense is coming in the lane and we're scoring in the lane, right, you're a defender, Rudy, and our offense is coming in the lane,

and we're scoring in the paint 100 points. You got two blocks and two fouls. Are you a good defender? No. No. He doesn't understand. How many blocks you got to have? 100 at that point.

How many did you have? The offense is spread out now. How many did I have? It's about three. But a lot of people were coming in the paint. No one drove on you have to spread it out. I mean, it's about three. But nobody, a lot of people, no one. There's a difference. So what I'm saying is layups. They're not getting laid up. So we're not shooting all jumpers. Hell yeah. I had a layup against the white. Did you see this layup? Do you see this? This is a fucking layup. That woke me up. This is a layup, bro.

That was my wake-up call. This was no fear. I'm not scared of Dwight. That was my wake-up call. This is a real scoring deal. But guess what? Listen. But this is not saying that you're a bad defender.

But Rashad. This is one nigga that's not afraid. You're right. After that, he never even came in the paint to try to dunk on me again. After that? Who? Say it again. I did.

No, Kobe Bean Bryant. I'm talking about I dunked on you. You ain't dunk on me. And Philly, you ain't dunk on me. I dunked on you. I dunked on you. try to dunk me again. I did. No, Kobe Bean Bryant. I'm talking about I dunked on you. You ain't dunk on me. Hey, in Philly I did.

I snuck you. That's it. We remember all our being dunked. We remember all our being dunked. All right, hold on, hold on. What picture was that? What year? That was 2006.

Okay, 2006 2006 your second year So did do we have any pictures of Kobe Duncan on them in? 2008 9 9 10 10 11. No, of course not you average two blocks three blocks and 2.8 blocks three Because I I witness I can we can pull up the game. No, he's not. Remember, I'm a much better defender than fucking Rudy Gobert. All right, it's a much better player. I was scared of you. I'm a much better defender. No, I'm a much better defender

than Rudy Gobert. He is. I'm a much better defender. I didn't say more better, nigga. I'm 34. I'm a better than Rudy Gobert. Yes, I'm a much better. So, Rashad, you said you want to talk about Rudy Gobert. Yes, you are a much better defender. Let's talk about another player in there.

It's any era, nigga. I'm talking about in this era. It's any era. I play defense better than Rudy Gobert in any era. In this era. Any era. Remember when Emory. In this era.

In this era, he's definitely. You remember when Emory. We're not comparing him to y'all. We're not comparing. You can't compare him to y'all. You can't compare him to y'all, too. But in this era, he's destined. You're not comparing him to y'all. You can't compare him to y'all. You can't compare him to y'all, too. But in this era, he's a defender. You can't. And that's what y'all are saying.

Who are you more... Who watches you like... We was like... Who are you more afraid of? Who's your effect on the game? Who's your effect on the game? No. Yo.

Wimby or him. I watch who is the effectless... Damn. Let me ask you. Hold on. Let me ask you this. So, we got one, two, three, four, five, six former professional athletes on this couch, right?

When you watch a basketball game, are you watching it, or are you critiquing it? Nobody's critiquing it. Let me, I think it's shut. Are you just watching it, or are you critiquing it? Are you watching the game, or are you critiquing it? I don't watch. You critiquing it?

Are you watching the game, or critiquing it? I'm fucking critiquing the game when I'm watching it. Are you watching the game,'re critiquing it? I don't watch. You're critiquing it. Are you watching the game or critiquing it? I'm fucking critiquing the game when I'm watching. Are you watching the game or critiquing it? Are you watching the game or critiquing it? I'm enjoying the game. You're just watching it? So you don't be like, damn, why would he go out that way? So you're critiquing the game.

No, it does not. You're watching the field. What it is you're watching, you're not watching the game, you're watching the field. I'm watching the game. I enjoy the you're watching. You're not watching the game. You're watching the field. I'm watching the game. I enjoy the game. Me being a big that been in pick and rolls and had to switch pick and rolls, had to guard post-ups, had to guard situations. When I'm watching Rudy Gobert play,

I'm critiquing his play. I'm not judging his man. I'm watching what I'm watching. I'm like, why the fuck he ain't... We know like what where we should be Every other fucking made the rest of the rest of the he's doing he's doing it better and it's it may be looking worse to Everybody but he's the worst. He's the best doing the worst. They're not doing what he's doing What about there all of them?

They drop bam drops in the pick and roll. Bam is up on the pick and roll. He's not. Okay, so then if he's such a good defender, why Franson even put him in the game in the Olympics? They didn't need him. They got Wimby. But Wimby's a better defender. Wimby is a better defender.

So then why he didn't win? But who else is better? Who else is better besides Wimby? A rookie. Besides this rookie, who's better? Besides Wimby, a rookie. Besides this rookie, who's better? Besides this rookie, why has this nigga got three-time defensive player of the year? Where is everybody? Jaron Jackson just won it, didn't he?

Jaron Jackson, too. He won it twice. Did he win it twice? He won it twice. What are we talking about? All of a sudden, Rudy went in. He trashed again? I think he's a better defender than Gobert.

I think he got more of an animal in him. Ant-Man said why you ain't dunking? Defensive player of the year. Why you ain't dunking? Defensive player of the year? Ant-Man also said that no one's scared of Rudy Gobert. I'm coming to lane anytime. He's not scared.

Rudy almost killed us. He's not scared. He's not scared of Rudy Gobert. A lot of people's not scared. He's not scared of Rudy. But go be a lot of Players are not scared. Go ahead. Go ahead Lexie. Rudy almost killed Donovan Mitchell man this shit I feel like no one is saying he's a bad defender though. We're not No, they're not saying he's a bad defender, but his accolades you gotta compare people with similar accolades. That's what we're doing You just don't compare. Well, if he's doing that, Joker's the best player in the world. Who?

MVP, three times. Comparing his accolades. Yeah, if he's doing that, goddamn. Y'all moving on. I mean, yeah, that's fair. MVP's the best player of the year. That's fair. He's the best player of my defense.

He got three times MVP. No, what she's saying is we're comparing to guys who have three or four defensive players of the year. Mike didn't do MVP. So then he shouldn't be in the conversation that you have with Joker. So nobody's in the conversation, right? It depends on your metrics you're using. The best, yeah. Now if you take the defensive player of the year awards away

and you compare them to other defenders, then he's not even number one. So you talked about women what number one in a deep why you can't just be I'm a defensive I'm a deep rock out of the year number one exactly because he got four right now centers right now that's better than this five oh. Why do I need five? Name them. He won the award. You just need one more to be better. He won the award. Nigga, we just need one.

You just need one. You said Wimby was better. So you already fucked yourself. So Wimby. Wimby is the runner-up. You fucked yourself. You already fucked yourself. You said Wimby was.

That defense ain't comparing to Wimby. They don't have a lot of centers like that. Exactly. It's Bam and Wimby. All you left with is Rudy. But you said Wimby. He won his interview. You got A.D.

Exactly. And we're not even talking about guards. And we're not even talking about guards at all in these conversations. But arguing for Rudy Goldberg to be the best. But he put Wimby in front of him. Like he just said it. He's a better defender. Wimby's a better defender. By far. Is A. AD's a better defender. Wimby's a better defender.

Yes, by far. Is AD a better defender? Hold on. I want to see y'all. Where's he going? He's the anchor. He's the anchor. He's the anchor.

Hey, Gil. He's the anchor. Who play on his 2K anchor? Y'all were the best defense Who play on his 2K anchor? I was actually playing defense. When he got defense, he put Wimby for defense.

Yo, this nigga drafted Wimby on the 2K. Send him to me. For defense. For defense. Send him to me. When you got Bigger dragon we build a new gate Santa for these who sent him to me was over there is Rudy up there taking a roll Rudy was We They play drop the mattress do I sorry the mattress the reconvers. You had the way you played defense and team had these schemes. Yes or no? Yes.

I did. I had schemes the way I played defense. Your coach allowed you to do what you could. My coach said, hey, we're going to do what Dwight wants. We're going to follow his scheme. They're not doing that shit with Rudy. Rudy don't want them to. He's following the coach.

He said, coach, what you want him to. He's following the coach. He said, coach, what you want me to do? Dwight, would you say AD is a better defender than Rudy Gobert right now? Yes. Easy. What do you mean? AD should've won. You said he's smaller.

He got a car. Joe, we're not going to do this shit. You can't do that. Hold on a second. Hold on. Before we move any further. We're not going to do this, Joe. Oh, Dwight, come on, bro.

We're not just going to bring Lakers into the fucking conversation just because we ain't talked about the Lakers yet. 2020 NBA champion with the Lakers, play with Anthony Davis. I think it's politics why ADA got it. You think so? And why Rudy Gobert got it. I think Rudy Gobert got it because they wanted to make sure the next couple years they got Wimby to be the number one pick.

He from France. They tried to make sure that they get this money on the other end so they got to make sure they think about it what who just got drafted issue Zachary another French kid so they got to make sure this French connection going crazy where was the Olympics a it wasn't there okay okay who won I give you NBA all about money right I get. Okay. Who won the NBA? NBA all about money, right? Who won the defensive player of the year, the bubble chip? Who won the defensive player of the year?

Was it Kawhi? No. I don't know. AD didn't win it? No. Who was supposed to? Did Rudy win it that year? No.

We are efforting right now. Colvin won. He was the MVP. He defended everybody. Giannis. Giannis won it. Who won it? 2020. Giannis efforting right now. COVID won. It was the MVP. It defended everybody. Yannis. Yannis won it. Who won it?

Yannis won it over AD. Yannis won it? He won MVP over AD. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. See why you think he won it? International. They trying to get that international money. Because the European players are better than Americans.

Going forward, they are better. Say it again. I mean, we can talk about that later. Stop. Say it again. I've been saying this. The European players are better than Americans. I'm not saying that.

I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Because the European players are better than Americans. Going forward, they are better. I mean, we can talk about that later. But I've been saying is the European players are better than American players. How can we say that after we just won a gold medal in the Olympics? Fuck that gold medal. Lexi.

I'm just kidding. Lexi, don't do that. We just won a championship. We're supposed to win. Jalen Brown, what? Jalen Brown did the Luka, and you're going to say that? What, Jalen Brown did the Luka, and you're going to say that. Taylor Brown did the Luka, and you're going to say that. I just feel like logically that doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense.

It makes perfect sense. You only won by two points. Do you know in 2020, 2028, we might not be taking the gold home? Oh, yeah, for sure. That's what he said. Dope or dog food. That's what he said. That's what happened. He said move forward. Moving forward, we are in trouble. Oh, yeah for sure Moving for trouble the same team that without them people wanted to They need a new tryout. They need a new tryout. Over here. Over here. That's to have them. Who was on the team in 2020?

Tell them. And how much we paid them off. Yeah, because they care about the number more over there. But they're getting more and more guys in. Listen, they're getting better. Yeah, y'all saw that. Yeah, they are getting better. Yeah, y'all saw that.

But I don't think, like, because of lack of talent here. Yep, it's not here anymore. Right. But I don't think it's because of lack of talent. I think it's the lack of development here. I agree with you. 1,000%. It's a shit show over here.

The heroes, right? Bro, do we know where Gil is at? We don't even know. Have we looked at that? Is he still at the bar? Fuck the NIL shit. Take a look. Yeah.

He just hanged up. Gil, this is your arena. 2028, I'll see y'all. We're getting behind in our fantasy. Oh, yeah. Why would you not at this point? There's no point. Because now the college is a mess in college.

And it's unserious, and they don't care about making these guys, these kids better. While Gil's returning to the arena, as a reminder, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code GIL to get $1,000 in bonus cash. Hi, Gil. Plus a special pickup.

I see you didn't bring it for everybody. You just came to buffer yourself, Gil. No, this is a solo mission. Okay, you know it's Thursday. All right. All gravy. I'll grab you. How are we all doing? It's been a little turnt up today. Everybody, y'all know when you lose your voice and you start sweating, it's a good show.

Take your shoes off. Take your shoes off. He's trying to go ones and none, but I got... What's that? Who? Ha! No nigga on this couch winning with me. Let's see, y'all want to play a drunk game of ones?

Oh, I would love to see that. I would love to see y'all niggas get fried and play one. Shot for shot. Go ahead, man, here, drink us his nines. So we asked the chat who was the better defender between AD and Gobert. Uh-huh. 90% did not say Gobert.

They said AD. Damn. I mean, it's all Laker fans. So they don't fucking know. When you think of Gobert, what you think about? COVID. Touching all the mics. That's why you hate him.

Everybody hates him. I'm not going to lie. Everybody hates him. I don't hate him. He did the same category as the track crew. I'm not going to lie. I don't hate him. I don't hate him. He's in the same category as the Tech crew. Noah Lyles. You put Gobert in the Noah Lyles.

No, he's not. No, he's not. No, because Noah Lyles is one of them. Don't compare him to Noah Lyles. Noah Lyles is really like that. Rudy not. Rudy is like that. Rudy gave Don? Rudy not. Rudy is like that.

Rudy gave Donovan Mitchell COVID. Until you guard him. It was tough. Donovan Mitchell was like, you know, guys. You get your ass down there in the post. You get your ass down there in that post. Nigga, stick your guard Rudy in the post, nigga. Why would I do that?

Nigga, stick your guard Rudy in the post, nigga. She be like, he got game. Dwight, you talked about the French connection. You talked about illegal and global. We talked about Gobert. So the runner-up for defensive player of the year this year, Victor Wimby-Yama, first rookie to ever make first team all defense. Hell yeah.

When you look at Wimby, do you think Wimby has the potential to be the greatest defender in NBA history? Wimby got a chance to be top five. Top five defenders all time. All time. Ever. And we watching it. You said what?

He got a chance to be top five all time. Who? Who not? As a defender or as a player? As a player. Yeah.

Top five defender. What was the question? Ever? Ever. He said that Josiah asked will Wimby be the greatest defender

in NBA history based on the trajectory of the game. He's 7'5". Play D and shut up. Play D and shut up. How old is he? Play D and shut up.

You can't do it with like... 20? When I went to play baseball... He might end up being 7'7". But can anybody...

Play D if it's a shut up. Can anybody even get those stats, like the stats for Wimby, can anybody get those anymore? Say that again now. Huh? He won more games. He won more games than Mike. Can anybody get get those that like the the stats for women can anybody get those anymore? He won't get the nine times all I It's I think about we say top five and then the people you name they're gonna have a 14 time all defensive Oh, he can run them to cry that way. No, he can win like three

Besides is there any guard? Any guard in today's era that can go 910? All NBA defensive game that they can't do it is over guards Mike did it I Said today's game Nine years again.. I said today's game, the rules have changed. The next nine years, he can do it. Can somebody in today's game go?

He's going to be more focused on offense now, Rashad. He's first and second team every year. He should be. Rashad, he would have to lock in on that, though. Like with Scottie Pimentel, like Kawhi. Even though Kawhi is a great defender, can he be able to do it? He can't sustain that. It's over with. It's over I didn't it's over right like some of those some of those award some of those awards and some of those things are

There's a meaning there's a minute So you see when we like we said first team all defense only rick and emmy a history to do so Has a potential trajectory to finish second defensive player to your voting will likely win the award next season You talked about people being afraid to go to the cup. We saw that this season Numerous times Yeah, fast break stopped Had a 301 with women and he take all three people. I'm not afraid of wimpy legs right now. I'm sorry, you know You're not afraid of who wimpy legs you not scoring on women That's all right. If you go to the rim, you're not going to win. You're not going on women

You're not getting your jump. You're not getting your job. So I He likes that over the bar on both you ain't gonna get crazy Whimpy guard somebody on the wing you not get you don't look like Luca did go for you You You before every You Rudy Luca course man, come on. Women's going to win the award. And Luka's going to win the award. He got counter after counter.

He can run them all. He ain't even using no energy. Man, I'm not even going to have blocks. Bandwagon. Playing 29. Bandwagon. And the way the game is today, he averaged three and a half blocks. That's crazy.

In today's game. In today's game, he averaged three and a half blocks. That shit is insane. In 29 minutes. Like you say, the new Shantz. In 29 minutes. I think he averaged three and a half blocks. That shit is insane. In 29 minutes. 29 minutes? I think he averaged three and a half. I think I averaged three and a half blocks my senior in college. We played zone. That's what you do?

The league don't need a shiny new toy. This is crazy. This is first year. You don't even know how to who on the prize. You don't even know how to who. The league don't need a new toy. The league is sustainable now. The league is sustainable now. The league don't need a face anymore.

No, it doesn't. This is not the 80s. You need a face. You can have multiple people. Okay, so when Stephon Braun does play, what's going to happen about Rushmore? Tatum, Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, Tatum.

There's going to be a little group. Win a team. It's going to be like a group of them. Yeah, there's not going to be a singular face no more after Stephon Braun. They don't need it. Like when LeBron, when Jordan left, it hurt the league,

like to the point where they had to move the three-point line. It's going to hurt when Bronley leaves. It's going to hurt when Bronley leaves. Why do you think he's playing so long? I said you don't get the job. No, no, no. He can't leave. No, because there's a Bron and a Steph.

And you're not watching. Michael Jordan was just Michael Jordan. You don't watch the game until the playoffs. Stop. You watch Lakers every other day just because it's LeBron on the mother. Who was the second best? Stop. You're not watching Minnesota. Who was the second best? Stop. You're not watching Minnesota or Lakers.

Who was the second best? Exactly. Exactly. Who was the second best player? Who was the second best player in the NBA? Jordan Elk, you were watching Kobe like, oh, shit. Yes. My teammate.

Yes. Oh, my God. The AI. Oh, my God. Nobody was watching 18-year-olds. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Why you make the All-Star game then?

Nigga. Nobody was watching. Shut up. Shut up. Yes. He made it. Why you make the All-Star game then? Shut up! Why you make the All-Star game then? Everybody was watching. Kobe Bryant coming off the bench.

He's going to be an All-Star. Little Laker boy. Little Laker boy. Michael Jordan was in the NBA, you stupid son of a... Michael Jordan was in the NBA. You two stupid ass... That Laker boy. That little Laker boy. You two stupid. Michael Jordan was in the NBA. You two stupid ass kids. That little Laker boy.

Stop. That Laker boy. That little Laker boy. Michael Jordan was in the NBA when Kobe came into the league. Stop. Stop. 94-95. Who was the face?

He's the next Jordan. That's the only thing they can do with Kobe. He's the next Jordan. Gotta watch out for this kid. That's the only thing. Watch out for Kobe. He's the next Jordan. Gotta watch out for this kid. That's the only thing. Watch out for this kid. So you don't think there's going to be no top off? What I'm saying, when Jordan left the league in 94-95, who was the face?

The same face. They wasn't ready for him. There was no face. Why? Because they didn't have anybody. They wasn't ready for him. They don't need a face because they got so many platforms to watch. It was James now.

Remember in early night? The Olympics made the same. I see what you're saying. If you watch the games, they don't make the same. All right, we got to get one conversation. Listen, in the 80s, the league was pushing two people, Magic and Bird. Jordan came out.

Jordan was pushed. He was the token that the NBA used to build this league in 90. When he left in 94, it fucked the economy up for the league. They moved the court in for the three-point line. What does this mean? So people can have better shooting. So they tried to create somebody. Are y'all mimes?

That's what they said. They didn't have a face. So when Jordan came back in, they pushed to Jordan. Action for everything. And then when Jordan was retiring, all the high school kids, all the high school kids were in markets. So Kobe, KG, what's his name? And then the 2001 draft, we're going to go with the high school kids.

Now the league is so stable, they don't need one guy to hold it up anymore. Who was in the Olympics in 2020? Name the team. And name this year's team. Oh, man. What the fuck does the Olympics have to do with that? I don't give a fuck what the fuck does it have to do with that. It's the same thing.

It's the people that's going to carry the sport. What the fuck did you eat last night? What the fuck does this got to do with what we talking about? I bet you know the second dream team and all them motherfuckers, right? Who's the second dream team? You know them? Nobody knows the second dream team. You know with Kobe and all them motherfuckers.

Who was the second dream team? Kobe and the motherfuckers. Who was the second dream team? No, no, no. Who was the second dream team? Name them. Bitch. Name them. The redeem team. The redeem team. Wrong. Kobe who was the second? name Name the name the second no that's not a man. He's like a dream team dream the second No, it's not dream. It's like a dream. There was no second rain day to Dream team name them 94 name nobody remembers the 96 Dream Team 2. Name them. I'm talking about the. 94. Name them. I'm talking about the. Nobody remembers them niggas. 96.

96. No, that was Dream Team 3. Stop Googling. 96 was Dream Team. 92 was Dream Team 2. 93 was Dream Team 3. 92. 94.

96 was Dream Team 2. 94 was the Dream Team 2. Thank you. Who remember that shit? Nobody. So who's on 2000? What is wrong with y'all? Who's on 2000? 94 was the Dream Team 2. Who you. Who remember that shit? Nobody. So who's on 2000? What is wrong with y'all? Who's on 2000? 94 was the Dream Team 2. Who was on 2000?

Hold on. Hold on. I hate Googlers. I hate Googlers. I Google the most out of everybody. 94 was considered Dream Team 2. How the fuck is he going to say I hate Googlers when he's sitting there saying, hold up. Who was on 2000? 96 was Dream Team 3. So he says, hold up, let me Google. Hold on, wait.

Who was on 2020? And who was on this year? I just want to know the difference. Just so they understand, 94 was the Dream Team 2. 96 was the Dream Team 3. Which 96 was supposed to be the Dream Team 2? Yeah. Who was the, what's the difference?

Am I wrong? I don't want to know the difference. I just want to know the difference between. the difference? Am I wrong? Yeah. Stop looking at me, man. I just want to know the difference between... Gil Sweatin', it's a good show. 2020 and 2004. The president had a comment about Michael Jordan. So, 1995, Bill Clinton said, as of today, the economy has produced 6.1 million jobs

since I became president, and if Michael Jordan goes back to the Bulls, it will be 6.1 million and one new jobs. What did he do to the... Why did and one new jobs what happened to the economy when you retire because there was no face they don't need a face now because they don't need a face of the NBA now because of the platform. Why did we like the Olympics this year? Please tell me, why did we like the Olympics? Because there was more stars. Because who was in it? Curry,

KD, LeBron. Thank you. Did you watch 2020 like this? Niggas that give a fuck. Who was on the team? Can you name me? Chris Middleton. 2020. What are you arguing? It's bigger. LeBdleton. Jason Tatum. Jason Tatum. What are you arguing?

It's bigger. What are you talking about? Because LeBron and KD was there. You need that. You don't need the face of the league. Shut the fuck up. What are you talking about? Because of the platforms now.

Listen to what you said. Three niggas. You need it. You need it. Three niggas. Why are we watching? Because they here. Because no.

We're watching the game. Thank you. You just named three niggas. Jordan in the 90s was one nigga. Who had the, who was in the middle with one flag like this and you took a picture and said, that's Captain America. Who the fuck was that? What does that got to do with the face? Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.

What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? Yeah. What do you think that is? Why you think that? Where the body bag at? Where the body bag at? Nothing gets up my ass.

Where is the body bag? What does that got to do with the place? Where is the body bag? Let him go. Stop doing it, bro. Stop acting like this shit ain't crazy. If Jay Taylor would have had that flag, that shit would have looked stupid. So all of that shit, nigga.

We're talking about in three years. Nigga, stop. He's filling his ears. You make a fool of yourself. Nigga, stop. Stop, bro. Nigga. All that shit.

All that shit. All that shit. Stop, bro. Nigga. Okay, so when LeBron is going to retire, the economy should get fucked up, right? Because it's the platform. The NBA should fall when LeBron retires, is basically what you're saying. Look, look, look. I want to ask you the question. Look at here, look at here.

Will the NBA fall when Michael Jordan left? Will the NBA fall? Will the TV deals crack because there's no face? Or will it be stable enough? I don't think no TV deals are going to fall, but I do think that there's going to be a lot of viewers.

I don't think it's going to be the same because I think LeBron was selling out just like Curry. I think when they both leave, it's not going to be selling out the same. So will Wimby not have that similar impact? Wimby? No.

Wimby don't have that impact. No. You're talking about three years from now. Three years from now, you don't need a one person. Because there's not a one person now. There's not a one. We're a man with a Lakers blues when they go 40 years old out there trying this hard What are we talking about? What are we talking about?

What's the number one selling this man at the little so the bigger was the number one selling? Sure, every coach says the baby. You're old. Who's the number one selling Jersey nigga? We're right right no they gotta make no curry gotta have a machine around you curry was no guy had a machine by So I said Curry the face? No, I'm not. Not his shoes. So I ain't seen one nigga with shoes on. Now you changed it. These niggas kill me.

Top selling jerseys. Top selling jerseys. Steph Curry, LeBron, Luka, Giannis, Tatum, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant, Ja, Dame, Jokic, Joel Embiid, LaMelo, Kyrie, Klay, and Jimmy Butler. This is top ten, Jeff. He better be the face. This is this month This month 22 to 23. I'm tripping Nick can I ask you a question? I know I got it. Give me your name. You're not the wrong one

Give me the wrong one. I have a question. You should be more knowledgeable than that. I said an actual question. You stop. You stop. You stop. You better stop. You're Agaton over there. I have a question.

He's just laughing at Tatum. I have a question. Tatum. I got fucked up. I have a question. That's the point. I have a question. That's the fucking point we're making, you stupid little fucker.

What the fuck are you going to leave me? It's going to be like five or six of them. Hey, I fucked up. I fucked up. I have a question. It's going to be like six of them. That's what I'm saying making. That's the fucking point we're making, you stupid little fucker. What the fuck are we deleting? It's going to be like five or six of them. Hey, I fucked up. I fucked up. I have a question. It'll be like six of them. That's what I'm saying. I have a question.

There's not one person anymore. I have a question. They all got baby momma. He just argued. I got a question. They all got babies. So how many different platforms? They got the wives.

They do. Wow. I mean, a different platform. I'm going to. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out.

Time out. Time out. Time out. So here's the top. Time out. Here's the top selling jerseys. Hold on. Hold on. Okay, but I'm out Hold on the motherfuckers who's holding Five in America right now in America when he tires what are the fans? Yes, they are Who are the fans buying right now? So, top-selling jerseys. I fucked up previously.

Here's the top-selling jerseys for this season. Top-selling jerseys for this past season. Number one is Steph. Number two is Tatum. Number three is Braun. Number four is Wimby. Number five is Giannis. Luka is six.

Devin Booker, seven. KD, eight. Tyrese Maxey, nine. Damon Penn. Jaws, 11. And B-12. Lamello, 13 13, Yoke is 14, De'Aaron Fox number 15. So basically, can I ask you a question?

Can I ask you a question now? So therefore, that's going to go to my question that I'm asking. What are you talking about? So Nick, what are you talking about? No, you don't So let me ask you a question Nick

How many different, so with the new TV deal With the new TV deal How many different platforms Can people watch the games on now? I don't know Is it multiple or is it one? Let me just ask It's more than one right? So you don't need one place

So therefore, so people are going to watch. You got Netflix and shit. So people are going to watch their teams, right? There are going to be certain guys that people are going to favor to, right? Like there has been in the past. But the overall league, I don't feel they need a face. One guy. They don't need one guy.

Because they don't have that. Right now, they don't face. One guy. They don't need one guy. Because they don't have that. Right now, they don't have that one guy. You can have like one and then you can have something next to them. Like Kobe, you got T-Mac, A.I.R. and LeBron and all them. You got LeBron, you got K.T.

Too many different reasons. And it's too many. The players is from too many different parts of the world. Yeah, so people don't really know When you had Jordan was like pushing nobody You don't need everybody. What do you mean a shoe? What is a shoe? Listen, that's pushing. I'm talking about the league. I got my own shoe. I know. I'm talking about the league.

Shaq. They was pushing Penny. They was pushing Penny. Shaq's a kid. NBA wasn't pushing these people. We're talking about the league. What that was is. Penny had the dog.

The Penny dog. The Penny dog. The Penny dog. We're not talking about Nike. We're talking about who did the machine. That's the pushing. You need the machine. No. We're talking about who did the machine? That's the pusher. You need the machine. No, we're talking about the one machine, NBA.

The NBA. The NBA. We're talking about the NBA. Who do they need? Not Skechers, nigga. Who was the NBA pusher besides Michael Jordan? Nike did Michael Jordan. Stop.

It was Nike. It was. It was. It was. Hey, Dwight, it was Nike. It was Nike. It was. It was. Hey, Dwight, it was Nike. It was Nike. That's a contradiction. It was Nike.

It was Nike, bro. The Nike billboards, the Nike commercials. It was Nike, bro. It wasn't an NBA commercial. Those were not NBA commercials. Those were not NBA commercials. Okay, but that was back during that time. So now we in a whole different time.

They just signed this big-ass TV deal. They also was fucking pushing Andre Agassi at the time. And so now they can push. We're not talking about shooting. We're talking about fucking shoe deals, man. You think Nike don't have a hold on it? When you're talking about TV deals, when you're talking about... Nike didn't make Jordan who he is.

Does Nike not have a hold on the Olympics? Does Nike not have a hold on the Olympics? You don't think they got a hold on the Olympics? They make the way. Do they not have a hold on the NBA? Stop, brother. Go, Nike. Yes.

Brother. Yes. Brother. Brother. So who is Allen Iverson with? Who? Who? Who?

I'm asking a question. Who is Allen Iverson with? Reebok. Reebok. Woo! So not just throw them. So they made Woo! So they made him, too. Nike made him, too, then. Oh, A.I. made him, A.I.

So Jordan made Jordan, and fucking LeBron made LeBron, nigga. It don't matter who, what shoe company. It didn't matter who, what shoe company. It didn't matter what shoe company they signed when they was going to beat him. No, no, no, no. Don't say that. Those billboards in Barcelona, the white know in Barcelona, it was Nike. That was Nike.

That was a Nike billboard. That wasn't an NBA billboard, bro. Are you buying? Do we have an usery name tag? I didn't even buy that goddamn Skechers. I don't buy no. The MVP board. He's the front runner MVP.

Joel Embiid. Can you buy some Skechers? No. Have anything on his panel, buy some Skechers. Hell no. These aren't even notes. Joel Embiid. Can you ball some sketches? No. Have anything on his panel ball some sketches? Hell no. These aren't even notes. We're not talking...

You need all that. All that. When the Bulls... When the Bulls was on TV, 40, 50-something games. The NBA is saying, you are the prime team. Who was second?

How many games did they have? Because we've seen this year, right? It was Lakers, Golden State. So we know the three. Lakers, Golden State. Who was the second team that they was pushing for the NBA? Utah. What year?

Whatever year you want. Whatever year you like. When Mike was in the league? Yes. Bulls versus Blazers. Bulls versus Lakers. So when the Blazers played somebody else. I bought all them shoes.

I'm not talking about shoes. I'm talking about the NBA. So when the TV deal came and CBS was the founder of the NBA, who did they push outside of Georgia? Like in the 80s, it was Lakers, Boston, Philadelphia. Then it added Bulls. So it was just four teams, right? By 85, it was just four teams being pushed by the NBA.

The two faces with Magic and Burr. Yes. The NBA was pushing them. Then I-Zell. No. I-Zell was a part of it. He was a part of it. No, he wasn't.

He wasn't a part of it. I know what you're saying. It's two of it. No, he wasn't. It wasn't part of it. I know what you're saying. It's two different points. He's just saying the NBA itself, the entity, the NBA entity itself. Man, I told you always go. Come on, man. All right, now I'll be honest with you. We always let the man finish.

You haven't even heard what he said. But you're not watching Darren Fox before you watch LeBron. Who's saying nothing about LeBron? I'm just saying. Everybody's going to watch their favorite player. If you got somebody, you're going to watch your team.

But you need a face. You do need a face. You need a face. You need a face. It's just a bunch of niggas out there playing. You need a draw. What the fuck?

You need a draw. But the way the package is now... This is why. This is a group. I know what you're saying. You're saying like, when Kobe was on his run,

whatever arena he showed up to, everybody had Kobe jerseys on. They couldn't wait for him to be there. It's Kobe's in town. We got to go see Kobe. LeBron has that effect. Curry has that effect. KD don't have as much of that effect.

So what year was Kobe? He said, if you don't have Ant-Man being that effect have as much of that effect. So what year was Kobe? If you don't have Ant-Man being at effect or Tatum being at effect, you don't have a face. What year was the NBA pushing Kobe as the face? When they won 3P.

After the 3P. Say it again. Say it with your chest. When did the NBA push Kobe? Because I know something happened. When he was an all-star. I know something happened to Kobe when the fucking NBA did such a thing. So tell me when the NBA pushed fucking Kobe. When he was an all-star.

You stupid motherfucker. I told you earlier. That's why I got Kobe over Mike. Kobe went through some real shit. That's why you said it earlier. Kobe went through some real shit. When did the NBA back Kobe? Kobe went through some real shit.

Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. Kobe went through some real shit. I told you right here Don't be Brian get murdered when we're as the face of the

They was not fucking with him how you know he got one MVP? Why you think he got one MVP? They was not fucking with him. For one year. For one year they wasn't fucking with him. For one year they wasn't fucking with Coby. For one year? For one year? One year they wasn't. Only one year? After he got that 81 it was a wrap.

Everybody was like welcome back Coby. They wasn't fucking with Coby for a couple years. He got dropped by... After that 81... After that 81... Niggas was not fucking with Kobe after that. He was in the ESPN commercial after that. What? Niggas always fucking with Kobe.

Every kid had a deal with Kobe. We're not talking about the kids. No, we're talking about the kids. This nigga's averaging 35, and the NBA is like, Steve Nash, huh? Huh, Steve Nash. Kobe averaged 37. Oh.

Steve Nash. Oh, Steve Nash. Fuck it. Steve Nash. Steve Nash? Huh? Oh you know? You're crazy as fuck. Do you know? Tell us in the link. You know what? We're not talking about fans. There's fans. You're talking about fans. I'm talking about the NBA. Any fan in America put Steve Nash over Kobe. We're not talking about fans.

We're talking about what the NBA. We're talking about what the NBA. We're not talking about fans. That's winning. That's winning. Every time. We done switched the whole. He's switching the narrative.

He's still over Goldberg. Every time the cartoon. He keeps switching the narrative. No. How am I supposed to know? We're talking about the NBA. LeBron ain't won no fucking MVP in 10 years. And he's still the face.

Facts. Whatever he's talking about. Facts. When was Kobe the face? When was Goldberg? Yeah. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. And he's still the face that we're talking about when was Are they fucking with Brian We're not talking about fans. We're talking about the league.

It don't matter who wins MVP. LeBron is the face. Who is the league pushing? All we talk about is Lakers on this fucking thing. They call him King. The NBA calls him King James. King James. I know what's going on.

These fucking shots. Niggas Make you say we talked about Not us not fair the NBA is different than the fans. Yeah, we're talking about that's a whole day NBA push Right there the NBA push Steve Nash over Kobe. No. Yeah, nobody. What are you saying? Nobody in America tell them what you saying exactly You didn't watch one Phoenix game Even though there's number one your why you watched him when they play the Lakers in the first round of playoffs, right? Hey dumped on that motherfucker, right? They in the league. That was on the front page

news. They in the league. These niggas are in the league. Kobe dunking on Steve Madsen. I'm in the NBA. I'm in the NBA. All three of us were. Four of us were. So Nick, you said we talk about the Lakers

all the time, so we might as well use this opportunity to do it now. Go do what you got to do When you come back because I get his point all not be Should not be here which I guess I think we appreciate you pulling up to the arena. We know you got to pick the kids up But Dwight we got you here. So we got to talk. You better get your ass up out of here. All right.

Hey, call me about the runs, nigga. Text me about the runs. Y'all need a point guard. I got you. Yeah. So Dwight, we got you here. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Ladies and gentlemen.

I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. Gillian's not letting Nick Young leave. Gillian's not letting Nick Young leave. Gillian's not letting Nick Young leave. Nick Young has left the premises. But, Dwight, we got you here. Lakers won their last chip less than four years ago.

So much has changed since then. We got a visual representation to showcase what's gone down. So this is that 2020 squad. Wow, such a beautiful time. What a beautiful moment. This is the 2020 squad. Oh, such a beautiful time. What a beautiful moment. This is the 2024 squad. The only gentlemen still in color are LeBron, AD, and Rob Palenka, who's still GM on the squad.

So recently, on your podcast, you offered these thoughts on that squad and the aftermath of winning that chip. Right after y'all won, y'all started tweaking the shit. Well, not y'all. They started tweaking the roster. Man, I'm going to tell you who it was. Right after y'all won, y'all started tweaking the shit. Well, not y'all. They started tweaking the roster. I'm going to tell you who it was. Rob Palenka, man.

Yeah, Rob. Why you do that to us, man? Nigga Rob. Rob, come on, man. Rob did bad with that. Rob, Rob, Rob. I still love you, Rob. I still love you, man. We had a squad, bro.

Even if we could have ran it back, We would have been healthier for next year. So many Lakers fans feel the 2021 squad would have been good enough to repeat if not for A.D.'s injury against the Suns in that first round. But how good could that Lakers have been if they didn't break up that championship? Who was beating us? Huh? Who was beating us? I don't think anybody.

Nobody. You got to think. We was the best team going into the bubble. We had the best record. We was the best team going into the bubble. We had the best record. We was dominating teams. Yeah. Like, we had, our record was like we only had lost one game after we was winning

in the third quarter. Yeah. And before the shutdown, I believe y'all had beat the Bucks and the Clippers. We was beating everybody. But that weekend going, literally a couple games before, right before the league shutdown and going into the bubble, y'allall beat the best teams in the league already established yourself as the dominant team in the nba at that point yeah so i i just believe that rob kind of like he really messed up the dynasty that we were starting i feel like we would have had at least two championships and the opportunity

to fight for a third one because we was in that stage where the young guys like Ant and all them guys was still maturing. They're not where they at right now. Jokic, he is not the player that he is now. So we would have had three years to go ahead and finish. Then LeBron and them, we could have all retired at the same time. We wouldn't have been in here talking about anybody else. We would have been talking about how we done retired and finished

playing and then the young guys are taking over the league, but I feel like Rob messed that up. Was that a super team? Was that a super team? Yeah. We think about it. We had four bigs that could play at any time.

AD, Boogie, JaVale, myself. That's four bigs. Unreal. Yo, who put that team together? Rob fucked it up. Magic put that together? Irvin, Magic Johnson. No, I think, was it Irvin?

Magic put most of that team together. So Magic put that team together? Yeah. And that's when you put a guy that's not in his element. Like, he comes from a different background, right? So you want to put your staple on something. It's already got a fucking chef in here, right? Yeah.

That shit is already made. We don't need the sous chef coming in this motherfucking house. Changing everything up. Changing the fucking ingredients, right? Yeah. Yeah. Moving furniture and shit, like rearranging a restaurant. You messed up the whole shit.

We need a TV here. We need a hookah. No, we don't need fucking hookah in here. We need what we got. And it was worth it. That's what y'all had. I feel like we had. Y'all brought the exact same team.

I feel like we had everything. We had the shooters. We had the defense. Because y'all were the only ones, because y'all had multiple bigs, like you were saying. Yeah. That could go against your game at the time, because he was. He was the main guy, and he was only going to get better. Y'all was throwing multiple bigs at him,

so it's different looks, more fouls. Different skills, more fouls. If this team stayed together, this whole Denver Nuggets thing would not even... You got to think about... It wasn't going to stay together because... Jokic still would have been good, but... It wasn't going to stay together because...

This dominance of Jokic wouldn't have happened as much. It wasn't going to stay together because the person that started it, and this is why I'm gonna side with you on some bronze shit. The person that started it, right, was Magic, right? So now I'm coming in, now I wanna do it my way. It's too much Kobe on this championship that we, you know, Kobe just boom, boom, boom, right?

So now it's like, okay, well, now I got Rob Plank in my back pocket, now I'm gonna do it my way. Now I want Rich to come in here. It's just when you have power. If I have power, I'm going to do it my way. Now I want Rich to come in here. It's just when you have power. If I have power, I'm going to do it the same way. I don't want to live under Kobe's legacy. Right? If I'm coming to LA, I'm not trying to live under Kobe's legacy.

I understand Rob Palenka came in here and did that, but... So Magic was consulted with Kobe. But now, in hindsight, this is my team. And in power, I would do the same. You know, this is my time and it would empower bra I would do the same I you know, this is my time so but Right and so when you saw that picture Kobe so when you saw that picture who's still there today Robin the bra bra

Right. What happened is, you know, they probably had a conversation in Kobe. So we're I'm playing goodness Okay, boom boom boom whatever but now it's my time now. I get all that. Like, I'm just saying business-wise. I'm just saying business-wise, like, why would I want to keep living under him? I'm coming out of that. This is my time. Because he would have continued to do that. I hear you, but that was the whole conversation.

I mean, why do you think I feel some type of way about him? No, no, I don't have a problem with it. It's just what it is. But I changed everything. He changed everything. But I hear you, right? Yeah. But if it's about winning, so it's about legacy, right? Yeah. But if it's about winning,

so it's about legacy, right? It's about winning. In my way, though. But I hear you. Just the way Mike did it. But the roster that you had is winning. And we just won.

Just won. Yeah, but I don't know them like that. I don't know y'all. Who gives a fuck? But we just won. We won easy. We should not matter.

Yes. We was together all the time. They couldn't keep us from, we was together every day easy. We should not matter. We should not matter. We should not matter. Yes. We was together all the time. They couldn't keep us from. We was together every day. But we won it in the lockout. Yeah.

Now the fans is out here. I'm just saying. If I'm at the top. They should have brought us back. Everybody's at the top. At least for one more year. Yeah. If it don't work out, then you'll be the same.

I'm just saying. Yeah, but don't just cut us off and then you got us going to different places when we could've had a chance to win another one. Because some of y'all, because y'all fuck with Kobe more than him. We fuck with Kobe? Yeah, more than him. More than Braun? Yeah. Why does it matter at this point?

It's ego, bro. It's ego. It's everything with ego. It's ego. At the end of the day, if I'm, like you said the story, I'm trying to disappear the 23, right? So if that's what I'm, that's why I said I fuck with Ron. And I'm not just like, oh, man, like, you know. What I'm saying is if that's my goal, well, then all y'all can watch out. We talked about it yesterday. It's like the goal for certain superstars is not against the peers. It's against the niggas who are cemented above them that ain't playing no more.

So I have to do all I can do to cement myself in that category. All right, so then that's why I don't understand. They've done it already. If he had just won, he's trying to cement his legacy as being better than 24 in L.A. No, no, it's never about that. Oh, okay. 24, you in the way.

I'm trying to come over here and change the thing, which is fine, I'm telling you. Listen, if I i'm in power i'm doing the same thing man i don't want to hear all that all right so you trying to you trying to erase 23 so you come to a city you win a championship you got a chance to win another and another and you get rid of everybody because that's what people holding against you rob Rob Belinda. That don't make sense. Everything I've done in my career has been my way, right? I don't think Rob and LeBron are on the same page. Right.

That's what I feel. They can't be on the same page. When the argument comes to the greatest of all time, what do people try to hold against you? I mean, I think the thing argument... No, no, no, no. Overall. I mean, no, I think... Mike got six, he got... No, no, no. Therefore, if that is the question, right, why not bring that back to just one?

I think the biggest thing is that people just mad that Bron did it his way. He can do it your way, but why not bring it to you? You can't do it the way... Bron's the only player to ever walk in the league do it his way for 20 years. I agree. So I think that's the biggest issue.

I do it my way. So if I want you out, you're out. If I want you this you're out. No, I'm wants to win. No, no No, I know he wants to win. It's not about but I'm saying he did it his way His way was winning Palenka is the one fucking everything up like like this. This is a real deal magic probably Magic shot is gonna be my way magic Johnson had ad coming over. He was getting ready to Kuzma, Josh Hart, and them. Right? That was his deal. Keeping Brandon Ingram in L.A.

When Palinka did the deal, he added Ingram and kept Kuzma. Palinka didn't know what he's doing. Of course he didn't. They both don't know what they're doing. Nobody knows what they're doing though I don't ask you LeBron for approval no all right Palika and the Palika and LeBron are not on same so why did they hold on why did they draft running huh because he was the best available town are not on the

side of hold on hold on hold on no hold on we're talking about hold, hold on, hold on, hold on, no, hold on, hold on. We're talking about, hold on, we're talking about after the, hold on, hold on, we're talking about after the championship. We're talking about after the championship. Yeah. You butt stepped in, nigga, both of them the same day. Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah, we're talking about after the It's both, it's Jenny, it's Jenny and LeBron. It's Jenny, LeBron, Rob, nigga, you say.

You in the middle. You do what the Jennys say do to make LeBron happy, motherfucker, so. You're in the middle. Draft, bro. Or it's Jenny and, Jenny and Brian are telling Rob what to do. Just that situation. Right.

And that situation. Not all situations. Yeah, and that situation with Brian. That situation. If I'm Brian, I'm telling everybody what the fuck. Fuck all that. Mr. B. So any trade situations with, hey, Brian, you want us to go get Klay Thompson, right?

You don't think they would? You don't think they did? Yeah. If you don't think he was like... Bro, it takes a lot of balls to put on a Lakers uniform. If LeBron James say, I want to go to the motherfucking Warriors,

I'm out of here because it's me. You don't think he having that same conversation? Jenny. We don't know what's... Hey, Jenny. It's not that easy. I need Dwight Howard on my team, Jenny. Make it happen.

Rob, I need Dwight on my team. Make it happen. What's taking y'all so long? What's taking y'all so long? What's taking y'all so long? We didn't ride Palinka steps in the way. So that means you're not doing what LeBron say. LeBron has left the situation. Did he leave Miami?

Did LeBron leave Miami because Pat Riley stopped the cookie shit on the plane? Yes. The man took his chocolate chip cookies off the plane, Rashad. Yeah. Who don't love cookies? Yeah, he did. That's not real. Everybody learn from that mistake.

That's real. That's real. I know it's real. No, for real, for real, he left because he stopped with the cookies? He took it personal. That was a contributing factor.

The man liked the cookies. It was like the nail in the... It was white. I'm number one. Yeah, you know. You guys didn't have to shit, right? Because the things he was trying to do, Pat Ronnie was not doing it. He didn't have... I'm out. I'm having these know. You guys are watching shit, right? Because the things he was trying to do, Pat Riley was not doing it.

He didn't have, I'm having these guys. I want these guys to come. People are wanting to come. Pat Riley said, no. Get me out of here. Damn. You're playing for Stanford. Why didn't Nick leave?

Take your cook. I'm going to do it later. That's cold. He was ducking you. No, because from 2002, I have all the, somewhere, I have all the NBA, you know, the NBA come out with the NBA guide and all the NBA magazines. Yeah. They're pushing that.

They send, I have all of them from like 2001 to like. He was looking for it. That's what he was looking for. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. To show there's going to be one person who the best player in the league is, but the NBA ain't pushing them like that. Hmm Yeah, you have dirt. No, you have dirt you have LeBron you have D Wade Now you have Tim Duncan on that right? You got Shaq on

Yeah, yeah, KG on it. Yeah, Jake kid on it. Yeah, I was on it shit. I was on But you there was one person they had a lot that I've ever seen on it. But there was one person, they had Allen Iverson on it two times. But they didn't have Kobe after 2004. All right, well, let's spin it forward to current NBA. Dwight, which current big man would you pick to build your team around? You looked at all the bigs around the league. Wimby. You're taking Wimby right now already?

Got to. Over Joker, over Giannis? Yeah, his upside is crazy. Who's gonna be better than Wimby in five years? Yes. He's still gonna be what, 25? Mm-hm. He's still gonna be young.

Yeah. And by that time, Pop's gonna have his mind game so crazy. Listen, if Pop's still coaching San Antonio Spurs in five years... You say he's still coaching? If he does, in five years... You don't think he's going to stick around? He needs to go. He needs to go ahead and...

Jerry West, that thing. Yeah, go ahead and do it. But no, I got Wimby. I don't see nobody doing what he's doing. I mean, he just... He might grow a couple more inches You got to get a young coach down there and you can't they looking at pop as grand grandpa. Yeah, but Tim's You think I'm gonna take over? No, it's not a tell no wanna do no coach He was like him

No Former Tony Parker. Nah, nah. He over there doing his thing with them. One of the assistants. Tony would make the most sense. I mean, he was over there with France with them, right? Now, just do one of the assistants. Tony would make the most sense. I'll tell you what's going to happen.

What, a coach? No, I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. Coaching with me. He doka. Nigga, you took the words right out of my mouth. He doka-poked it, though. Hell yeah. He going to get fired in two years.

Yeah. He doka. That was a builder bear. That was a builder bear job. He used to go fire him in two years. He ain't gonna be winning with Jayla Green, Jabari, Sangu. He gonna get the rid of them. He gonna get the, then they gonna. Yep.

I see that. So, he may as well go to. Whimby's already established in two years. Yep. Come in, you got. Culture, all that. You got the young boy who just dragged the castle. You got Whimby, you got this.

Yeah. I like that. I got a headache. You should. From all that yelling, Gil. All that damn yelling and drinking, you been doing. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. You got the young boy who just dragged the castle. You got the windmill. You got this. Yeah, I like that. I got a headache.

You should. From all that yelling, Gil. All that damn yelling and drinking, you been doing. Hey, yo, we got OnlyFans? Listen, we don't have OnlyFans. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you do, but I don't. We do have MostlyFans, though.

I don't know if you have OnlyFans, but I do. I don't. I don't. Let's get to MostlyFans. Hold on, my bad before we go. It's Wednesday. Wednesday. Hold on, brother. let me do the animation.

You got something you want to say? Yeah, I want to say, yo, rest in peace to Pat Barrett. He just passed the other day. SCA, South, South, um. SoCal All Stars. Yeah, SoCal All Stars, AU manager, Pat Barrett just passed. So I want to shout out to him for everything he's done for all of us. The best AAU program ever in history.

In the history of AAU? Yeah, in the history. And I'm looking at somebody right now while I say that. But, yeah, SCA. Tyson Chandler, myself, Baron Davis, everybody from L.A. The real hoopers play for SCA. So Atlanta Celtics have everything to say about them. Everybody that play for SCA.

Just rest in peace. Everybody going to have their pay. So Atlanta Celtics have nothing to say about that. Shout out to everybody that played for SCA. Rest in peace. Everybody going to have their piece. Just rest in peace, rest in peace. Yeah. Atlanta Celtics have nothing to say about that. Shout out to all the scenes. And shout out to everybody else that's out here. Dino.

Dino. He's trying to do a show. You and Josh and Randolph. Make a walk. Atlanta Celtics have nothing to say about it? Not only just somebody just passed. Somebody just passed. Somebody just passed.

You know, shout out to some of the real ones, too, that's been out here. Dino. He said it's the best day of your team all time. He was trying to get a debate. Me and Dwight are talking about that tonight. With the challenge. You got it.

Not to respond. We will keep it moving. We got mostly fans presented by Underdog Fantasy. Go ahead and download that. Use promo code GIL. You get a $1,000 in bonus cash plus a free pickle. So we got a video question from Underdog user King Shavi. If each team in the NBA took their best three players off the team,

which team is the best and why? I'm saying the Knicks or maybe Philly. So if you took the best three players off of every NBA team, who would be the best and why? G League United. Rest in peace to the G League United as well. You still think Celtics? I mean, okay.

Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown. Okay. How does it be Jalen Brown? What do you mean how? Like, what are you doing? Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown.

Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown. Okay. That's what he said. Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown, Jalen Brown. That's what they just said. No, he's saying saying he's keeping them. No, I'm not. I'm taking them off.

Okay, so who you got? Did you see how he jumped down? He just jumped down my throat. So it's the three best players? No, you don't. Take the three best players off of every team. Brown off and Tatum off. You got Holiday, White, Derrick White.

And you still got some. I mean, they've been there. Richard. Al Horford. Al Horford? Al Horford? And then we're Philly. Philly?

Philly. Philly. PG, Maxi, and B. You owe me no food this year. Who's left? Who's left? Eric Gordon, Kyle Lowry, KJ. Martin.

Drummond, Martin. Reggie Jackson. All right, what other teams do we have there? Council, the rookies. The Knicks starting five is trash. Philly ain't brotherly love, I'll tell you that much. Who is the best one? Not out of Sam.

Randall and... Sam's somewhere. Okay. Gone. You got Hart, you got Devin Penzo, you got Mikael Bridges, you got... You got a college basketball team. You got... Mitchell Robinson. Mitchell Robinson. You got a, you got Devin Penzo, you got Mikael Bridges, you got... You got a college basketball team. You got Mitchell Robertson.

You got a college team. You got a fucking college team, dawg. Solid. A national championship. Same team as last year. Are you here talking about the Lakers? We know the Lakers suck, so stop getting in your feelings over your fucking team. You feel we got a team full of pros, guys that's been around.

Y'all not gonna be better than Milwaukee. Who does Milwaukee have? Bet the Noble. Bet the Noble, right? Everybody saw that, right? Can we stick to the topic? Y'all a little too close to the style right now. Y'all a little too close to the style right now.

This show is going off the rails. One for the book. I'm strong, too. What team? Sons? No, fuck no. No. Denver? One for the book. Grab my hand like that. I'm strong, too. Grab my hand like that. What team? I'm strong, too, nigga. Suns? No, fuck no. No.

Denver? Hell no. Denver? Take their top three off? Take Joker, Jamal Murray. You take Jamal Murray, Yolk. And MPH. I would say Minnesota.

Michael Porter or Aaron Gould. Westbrook. Westbrook, Aaron Gould, Christian Brown. Hold on. Who else? Minnesota. Let's name who Gordon. You got Westbrook, Westbrook, Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown. Hold on. Who else? Minnesota. Let's name who there are three. Westbrook, Brown.

Watson. Watson. Because if you're not putting Westbrook in there, you're not through. Westbrook, Westbrook, Gordon. Brown. Brown. Okay. Watson. Watson.

Who is he? You got DeAndre Jordan. What have they done? He's on his way out. DJ on his way out. I love DJ. They have a solid team. No, they're not fucking with the Philly team.

They're not fucking with the Philly team, though. No. Right now, Andre Drummond is more effective than DJ. I hate to say it. I love DJ to death. Who? Andre Drummond is more effective than DJ right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Watson, I mean, Peyton Watson, like who cancels out? Boston. Because as a starter in this league, Cajun has 15. Philly, what is it? Unless you go Pacers. Minnesota? Who does Minnesota have?

Pacers. Nope. You lose it. Turner, Halliburton, and Siakam. And Siakam. Then you got Neeson. See, that's what I'm saying. You got the little lights in point guard.

Then you got Rudy you got You got Rudy don't count my car my car me that might be the most solid team not a chance who in there Play no minutes. Oh, he's? He ain't play no minutes. You don't know who he gonna be. You're right. He ain't play no minutes. How about Houston? Houston got a blue. They got a blue. Houston got a squad. Who's the third best? I don't know man. I'll go with anybody in there. You keeping Cam Whitmore off that? He's on part of that other squad? You have to. You have to. You still got Fred running the point because you got to take Jalen St. Goon. You got St. Goon, Jalen. Jalen St. Goon. And then Fred VanVleet. No, you got Jabari. Which one you going to take?

You got to leave one. You got to leave one. So you got Cam. You still got a solid list. I'm still taking Philly, though. There's more vets, man. Houston. And they still got A-Man Thompson.

Oh, yeah. And they still got a bunch of young niggas out there. Who would it be? Who would be the score on the Philly? Like, the score? Eric Gordon put that thing in the basket. Fucking Go ahead and put that thing in the basket. Fucking Reggie Jackson put that thing in the basket. What about Detroit?

Boy, them motherfuckers lost 3,700 straight games last year. I'm a talent, though. We're talking about as far as... Oh, and they ain't picking Detroit for shit. So we're going, like, so basically... Nothing to do with basketball. Philly, Denver. Minnesota.

30,000 straight games. All right, so we got one last question from underdog user 14flat. Question for you, Dwight. Who wins a seven-game series between the 2008 Redeem team and the 2024 Avengers? That's a good one. I'm going with our team.

We got a young Kobe. Well, we got a prime Kobe. We got young Bron. We got the ball here. D Wade. We got, we got a graphic with both, with both those teams. If we want to pull that up. So the ages, Chris Paul, we got a young, uh, Carmelo. Yes. I'm going with 08. Young Dwight. Who's Stockton? Why is John Stockton on there? John Stockton on there? Why is John Stockton on there? Why is Jake Heard on the team at 35?

He was on there. He was? He was on our team. Fucking... Why is John Stockton on the team? So we got Wade... Players fuck up. Typo.

You gotta be, because he wasn't 30. All right, so who's the worst players? Who is the worst on this team right now? The worst on our team? No, Taysha't 30. All right, so who's the worst player? Who is the worst on this team right now? The worst on this team? No, Tayshaun Prince. Reid. Get the fuck out of here.

Tayshaun was on it? Yeah. No. So, Reid and Prince? Prince or Tayshaun or Michael Reid probably the... So, the bottom over there would be... John Stockton is on this team. Tayshaun Prince, the best...

White. Basketball player... White and... White and... It's not Stockton. It was Darren Williams. Darren Williams was the... Okay, so... White and White and It's not Stockton it was Darren Williams Darren Williams was the Okay so White and Hallenberg

So White and Hallenberg is that the two worst? White and Hallenberg? That's the two worst It is So that's Red and Prince So that's about They gonna

They gonna They gonna wash each other out So those two technically wash each other out Yeah who you got for Kobe He He like a little bit asses Brian.

You put KD with Kobe. Okay. What about Melo? This is young Melo. Melo was dunking on everybody. Melo and Brian. Yeah, that's the one on both guys. I know, because the young LeBron over here is going to have to match up with an AD or a bookie. LeBron, young LeBron. LeBron got to guard LeBron over here gonna have to match up with the old with the with a ad or

LeBron young LeBron gotta guard run the worst player the worst player on this is Derek white. Yeah, like I got boss I got boss over it First Paul, I got boss Might be better. Yeah 2008 redeem team. Yeah, no, no, I'm just saying but we're talking It's easier to go from the bottom. Like, who's the two worst? And then it tells you how good the team is. Boozer and Bam.

They crossed out. Take Stockton off. Darren Williams fell out 24 at that point. Then you got Darren Williams. Darren Williams, 24 years old at that point. Yeah, he used to replace him. So that's Darren Williams versus Drew Holiday. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, that's tough. Yeah, Darren Williams. That Darren Williams. I'm taking Drew Holiday. I'm taking Drew Holiday. Okay, cool. Oh, that's tough. That Darren Williams. That Darren Williams. I'm taking Drew Holiday. I'm taking Drew Holiday. Okay, cool. So you're taking Drew? Yep.

Stop it. Everybody, y'all. Not that year. Y'all era was nasty. Not that year. Y'all era was nasty. Y'all era was nasty. Not that year.

2010. He would have fucked him. Dwight, who's stopping you on that 2024 squad? That double crossover would have. Me getting in foul trouble. Nobody. Nobody. I gave Darren Williams buckets. I'm going to go oh wait. No, no. Yeah, I go away cuz everybody was young

Everybody was young to be dominant. I'm a brown at 23 Me I'm 22. You know my mellow mellow at 24 See oh my god See the problem is the young guys on this, on 2004, they wasn't playing like that. The young guys on this team was dead. This is their years. Wade at 26.

Ballhead Wade and Booz was going crazy. Yeah, Booz was going crazy. The oldest person on there was kid. So, y'all saying, did he just win? Did he just win? He was playing. He was playing a lot? Did he win? He was playing. He was playing a lot. Before he won in Dallas, too.

Yes, before. He was playing a lot. I gave 90% of these people in here 30. God damn. On both teams? He wasn't even in the NBA. Like, shit. And on that note...

He wasn't even in the NBA. Like, what the hell? Like, these names. You wasn't in the NBA. I've been in the same game with some of these niggas 30. At this age? When they were this dude. Care about that age?

When I got in the league, I saw them. And on that note. I saw them. Dwight, we appreciate you pulling up. Make sure everybody you like and subscribe to. Dwight's above the rim with DH12 Podcast. Y'all been out here doing it. He little.

That's me. I was old when they subbed you out because I was trying. That's me. I was old and they subbed you out because I was trying to post you up. I was old. Yeah. I was old.

Help. Hey. Help. Scott's got like, brr. Come on, come on. I'm out. I'm out.

Salmons. Get in here. He fucked up the whole. He got too cocky. See, he came to me before the game, said, you can't do nothing with me.

He was right. Next day, his ass was gone. I said, thank God. Thank God. I'm going to take over. I want to show you that. Come on, y'all. You got to shut down.

Come on, y'all. And on that note, we appreciate y'all all pulling up for this. He was dangerous. Memorable show. No smoke, Gil. Literally. No smoke. Gil, see you before the game.

Lexi, we appreciate you pulling up. See you before the game and be like, you work on the industry, be like, oh, it don't matter. Like, your big can't do nothing with me tonight, so I'm going to, you know. Smoke Machine is malfunctioning, but this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! We will see y'all next week. Thank you.