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Episode Date: April 13, 2023

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Hey, trying to see myself on the live. We got Rashad McKenzie in the building with the crown. You know how we do, man. Oh, you got the cane, too. You doubled up today. Yeah, man. I figured I'd wield some magic today, you know, with my picks. You know what I'm saying?

It's pimping. It's pimping. It's pimping. Paper in my pocket. You feel me? We got Brandon Jennings here with Freedom. What's up? Freedom.

For sure. And remember, look, Underdog Fantasy pays these bills. So if you want to get down, download the app, sign up, use promo code Gills Arena. They will match your first deposit up to $100. And I'm going to be real. I came oh so close last night. Herb Jones betrayed me. One more bucket.

Could not do it. Could not do it. I blame officiating. I don't blame you, Herb. You're doing a good job. And everybody in the chat, the chat's been jumping. We appreciate y'all. We love y'all. We got our Mostly Fans segment at the end of the show.

Drop some good questions in there. The best question will get featured on this show, so go ahead, keep that chat thriving. Throw some stuff in there while you're watching the show. We'll add it to our Mostly Fans section at the end of the program. You can get in there. You can really be a part of this show with us.

Damn, any more promos? No, I think we're good. You got them all. The chat already is jumping, Brandon. They say you look like a member of Jodeci right now. Damn. Ooh, yeah. Ooh, yeah.

I've been watching you. I'm the fifth member. I'm the fifth member. Fifth member. But we got to start with, which was the biggest news of yesterday. It didn't even involve teams currently playing right now, but Spencer Dinwiddie and Kyle Kuzma had some smoke for each other, got a little bit spicy.

Dinwiddie made an appearance on a running back show on another company's platform that is not Underdog Fantasy, Woof Woof. Threw some shots at Kyle Kuzma. You know, his priorities tend to vary, right? Like, that's why dressed the way he does, he approaches basketball the way he does the comments he makes. And like I said

with the Dre Monco, insecurity is loud. Like, you know that you're there shooting shots to try to get a contract. You're probably not even a third star really on a good team because if you were the Lakers would have kept you. Right? Part of the reason you left was to try to make more money. Like these are all things that are facts.

Damn. I didn't see that beef coming. Nah, me neither. We was minding our business in the playing world. It came from somewhere. It looked like them dudes, they played together for a little bit. That's not what I'm saying. They played together. Oh, yeah.

Same position. Same position. Ooh. No, no, no. Like two, three. Right? Two, three. Two, three.

Two, three. Seemed like then, would he- It was like a point guard. Huh? It was like a point. Yeah, it was like one, two. It seemed like he was roasting them a little bit. Like, you know, roast sessions, getting them roast sessions.

Yeah. And you don't really get into it in the locker room, but you always want to tell a joke. He feel like he can tell all the jokes now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He ain't on the team. He ain't got to show up to the locker room. That's a little slice cut. Just, gotcha, gotcha.

So Kool saw this, and there's some debating conjecture on the internet about whether or not he hired a writing team or this all came off the dome. But he hit him with a six-shooter going at his head with a Twitter thread. And the giveaway on the first tweet is that he actually used the word thread, which in the black demo, we don't, if we just thread, we thread. Here's a thread.

But I'll read all the tweets for y'all, everybody at home who can't see them. Said, okay, since I'm famous, FanDuelTV and Spencer Dinwiddie, let me give y'all some clout. I'm usually unbothered, but things on the internet, but I will not allow this delusional guy to continue to talk about my teammates and I. Here's a thread. Insecurity is loud, question mark. The Wizards and I have so much real estate on

Den Shady Island. This guy got signed by a team, 60 M's, and was traded before the following season was over. Next one. What in the world have you won in this league? LOL, you've been bouncing around like a basketball, my boy. My boy, that was his tweet. That felt like he might have came in a spicy way.

That's his tweet. You can thank KD and Kyrie and the, I don't know what, for spearheading 34 wins before the All-Star break, 11-13 after the break, for your playoffs. Second option, more like second point guard, LOL. My man, I watched you for two months at the end of your Wizards tenure, being the second option, average eight, four, and four.

Sounds good, but glad you're hooping now. And yep, I got a bag coming, praying hands. Stop hating, LOL. And the last one, and last but not least, the only way you'll ever be worth your contract is if the NBA finally gives you your wish of getting paid in crypto. Check the markets.

Enjoy the clinics. Go. I told you, B. This is going to be good. I'm not expecting a Dinwiddie, but if I'm in the Dinwiddie family, that's a fade. Ouch. That hurts. Don't knock crypto.

It might come back. All right? I got some of them gorillas and monkey photos and all that other shit. Them JPEGs. You got crypto, Gil? Tell the truth. No. Don't do monopoly money, man.

I don't do it. Give me my goddamn buckets, man. You know what's funny though? I was moving into crypto space when Dinwiddie was supposed to do his contract and how that whole thing came about. So the fact that it's a joke now was it's kind of fucking fun So gotta ask y'all sorry to Gil what grade of beef is this then wordy verse cool situation see you got it You got a why am I touching this like it's fucking on? FBI. I already know.

They don't say shit to me. They don't say shit to you. For NBA, it's a two, three. It's two, three, just a couple jabs here and there. Ex-teammates. They're keeping it soft right now. Y'all rolling with it, teammates know, they're keeping it soft right now. Y'all rolling with the teammates? The teammate

aspect of it? I mean, I just feel like why didn't they say something when they were playing together? You know, we never say anything when we're playing together. So we just tiptoe? Yeah. For the most part, everyone tiptoes until you get out. You wait until you

retired a few years until you got a YouTube platform and a nice audience and then you just send shots at each other. But we can't pretend like we're not going to see each other again. That's the truth. That's the fact. That's always my thing. You got to see me again, bro. What you talking about?

They definitely got to see each other again. Excuse me? Next year. Oh, they're because they still playing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If we play together and we still in the league and you didn't send some shots, you What you talking about? They definitely got to see each other again. Excuse me? Next year. Oh, they're because they still playing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

If we played together and we still in the league and you didn't send some shots just because you're not on my team no more, bro, you still got to see me somewhere, sometime. You got the answer. Because it's run across the street at this point. It's like across the street. If you football, listen, football, yeah. Basketball, we train in the same time. Yeah, shake hands.

We in the summer training with each other. We in the same gym. What's up, bro? What's up, bro? You know, you probably practice at 11. I'm at 12. You know, it really doesn't get, it doesn't really get like. So you know we can duck each other, we can kind of. Yeah, you know, duck, you know, do one of these.

Check your smoke. Are you ready for that. Yeah, you know, duck, do one of these. Check the smoke. We good, right? We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good.

We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good.

We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We good. We up at 11. Pull him up. With his shirt off, greased up. Sup, sup. But look, with the situation you had in Washington,

was you there first? Because y'all had the beef going when you were in Javaris. Was you like, what's up? No, no, it was so funny. We didn't have beef. Before, on the plane, like when the collection started to, and it was like, next day, what's up? No, that's what I'm saying.

It wasn't, that's what I'm saying. We wasn't beefing, I just didn't like the way he was talking, right? That was all. It was just, you know, my young boy talking. Talking crazy. So, you know. In that moment, though, so. Yeah, just talking in that moment.

Had you seen any of those situations prior? And then we had a day off, and then, you know me, I'm petty as shit, and I just keep extra, I just keep shit going. That's what I'm saying. So you pulled up with the energy. Yeah, so I was there first. I was there first, you know. I was there first.

Because I got there at six, so I'm the one who fucked it all up because I kept the shit going. I kept the shit going. You were thinking about it the whole off day? No. Just Monday come around like, you just got to go back. You got on some petty shit. Petty shit, got to go back home. I

Remember I did tell him I like that. So I'm never a fan of black on black violence. I wouldn't suggest a fade, you know Let's keep things peaceful for the community but Coos verse didn't with you one-on-one. We got to go by light-skinned rules who wins Wait, it's a fight on basketball basketball. Oh my skin to roll basketball basketball Oh, I mean, it's a fighter basketball game light skin the rules applied on one one one But light skin the rules Drake calls fouls only jumpers. They got a hug after every basket I mean did then what he's a one-on-one player then what he has said that he's the best one-on-one player in the game I think only KD has given that smoke. He the best one-on-one player in the game. I think only KD has given him that smoke.

He is a one-on-one player. He is a one-on-one player. Can we cap that? I know, that's what I'm saying. He is a one-on-one player. One-on-one is different. You might not get that ball back. I'm not going to give him one-on-one.

He's okay. What about fashion? Who you trusted to pull off the best fit? Oh, Kuz. I'm going with Dinwiddie. I just don't like that. It depends on... But he's in fashion, so that works.

Yeah. He's rocking with... I rock with Kuz. I could never get that. Kuz, yeah, yeah. The pink sweater, I could never't like that. It depends on, but he's in fashion so. Yeah, he's like. He rocking with. Yeah. I rock with Kuz. I can never get that. Yeah, Kuz. The pink sweater, I can never get that off.

Yeah, Kuz for the fence. I think one on one, I'm going to go with Dinwiddie. I'm going with Kuz one on one. One on one. Because he's bigger. For sure. Bigger guy. He can play defense.

He's long. I know, but one on one, you know, one dribble, two dribble, it's different. You know it's a different game. But Dinwiddie got a couple moves. He got a little step back and, you know what I'm saying, got a little hezy jumper. But he ain't got a bag bag with him. He got a small bag. Dinwiddie's nice.

He's not nice. I ain't saying he's not nice. Like one on one? No, like that's his thing. To get through, get past Kuzma, a big, long, stringy ass defender type move. You got to think about pump fake jab Love her go wrong with you Got a holiday. He had to comparison was interesting drew holiday like drew holiday is a like you can see he's a great one-on-one player

Right. I mean you're talking about Like what they do a one-on-one league. I wouldn't want to match up with him. Yeah, he's tough six four solid Yeah,, he got it all drew holiday Yeah, I wouldn't want to match up with against him. There's the thing people would be Paul too though He's about six and a valley kids boy. So you already know what we I've always liked it. We need baby. I've always liked him. We always how drew plays now They don't remember and brain y'all came out the same year right high school I'm not mistaken like that high school Drew was on some other shit. He was a killer. He's now big.

He's getting a bit gentrified a little bit in the league. He got a playing role. He was? Yeah, he was. Drew Holiday was at McDonald's. When it's all said and done, Drew Holiday, out of California? Resume. He might be top five ever.

His resume is crazy. So Kuz 6'9", Dinwiddie 6'5". I'm going with Kuz. Kuz got the Heidi Randy. I'm going with Kuz. But, ooh, one on one, open court? Open court like 94 feet? No, no. Open court, I'm going with Dinwiddie in a one on one.

Let me introduce you. I'm Stan Valley, kid. I know y'all biased, but I'm- We're not biased, bro. I'm not biased. I'm not biased. I'm going with Kuz. I'm going to go with Kuz. Not with the fits, though. I'm not rolling with the fits at not buying it. Taff Legends. I'm going to go with Koolz.

Not with the fits though. I'm not rolling with the fits at all. And this? No way. The big ass bubble shirt like he in Mario Kart or some shit. Bro, you need to chill out with that. And the last question, what is the rapper pop culture equivalent of this beef? Is this like Coolio versus Weird Al Yankovic level?

Where are we at with this thing? This beef? Is it Gil level yet? Or neither one of them gentlemen petty enough? Where are we at with this name? This? Beef? Is it Gil level yet? Or neither one of them gentlemen petty enough? This is hip hop? Man, this is like, this is bad. This is like Young Thug versus Rich Homie Quan.

No. They're the same team. No. No, that's just like, you can't, that's forever. Can't get back to that. No, that can't get back. That's like... It's tough to give something that they was together, now they not. Like what, Pusha T and Malice?

Probably. It's just, you know, it ain't really got... It ain't a real beef, but it's... It's like a tube steak level beef. No, just a little couple shots to see where this goes. You know, it's just one of those. It a real beef, but it's like a tube steak level. No, just a little couple shots. Let's see where this goes. You know, it's just one of those. It's not gourmet. It's basic beef.

Okay. Basic beef. It's basic. Yeah, I'm going to say basic. Hamburger helper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Level of beef. All right.

Hamburger helper is hard in the right conditions. Let's keep it real. But we had some legendary cooking last night, so we got to show them some love with hibachi time. Here we go. We need like a knife sound. I need a big-ass knife on this Okay Anyway, okay, so first we got to start that Bulls Raptors game

Underdog and this fan base lets me down. I don't like work. I like sleeping. Did he say night? I don't get out of bed before 2.30, so y'all got me here too early. But let's talk about Zach Levine. Did his thing. 39, 6, and 3 assists on 22 shots. He was 13 for 15 from the three-throw line in the play-in win

versus the Raptors. They overcame. He went to UCLA, too, but that's, you know, we already knew that. Bounced back from a 19-point deficit, 30 in the second half, 16 in the third. So let's talk about Zach Levine a little bit. He's in his ninth season. He's been cooking the last five years. I think 25 points per game, 4.7 rebounds, 4.5 assists,

39% from three in that five-year window. Two-time All-Star, two-time dunk champ, if you want to throw that in. No All-NBA selections, and he's only been to one playoff series. They lost to the Bucs last year. So start with you, Gil. Will Zach Levine ever reach the superstar tier, and can he do it with the Bulls?

He's on his ninth year. It's kind of hard. I mean, he has all the potential. He has all the tools. Sometimes when you're looking at somebody, it's like something's missing, unless you're just really hands-on with them. I know his dad trained him. They're out of Seattle.

I've watched some of their workouts. I even showed my son. So I know he puts the work in. Sometimes it just might be just the mentality of just saying, you know what, no one can guard me. Let me just say fuck everybody else. And then just tap into your greatness. But something's holding him back for really unleashing everything he has.

Truth or Dare, Brendan? Can he become a superstar with the Bulls? I don't think so. Just what's around him. Depends on what the Bulls' future is. And then the coaching. I mean, I think they got to get better coaching. And I don't think the supporting cast is good enough for him to become a superstar there.

So I think he would have to go somewhere else. And it's his ninth year, so it's kind of like, we kind of know what we're getting out of him now at this point. So I think he just needs to probably be with a contender, maybe. I think you ride the wave of understanding when he did the dunk contest, him and Aaron Gordon, that was his momentum to trying to get to that superstar level where he can have his own team. Like when he first went to the Bulls and it was kind of his team, him and his dad was excited.

Cause it's like, we ain't gotta worry about nobody else. Right? And then coming from Minnesota averaging 20, that gives you confidence. Like, man, we could take this to 25, 26, get some real respect in the league, and here comes DeMar, which is that shadow. Like, it's this big old figure

in your way, in front of you, that's stopping you from being seen as a superstar player. I don't think that it's like he's not. I think that when you got somebody next to you just as good, it's hard for everybody else to give you that much more respect because he is a, I think, third team, could be a third team all NBA.

But the fact that he got somebody else just as good at the same position, it's tough. Well, same position and, I mean, they kind of do the same thing. Yes. And they're kind of both, like you said, like DeMar's, he's in his, what, 12th? 12th. 12th year. He's in his ninth. So you know what you're kind of both, like you said, like DeMar, he's in his what, 12th year? He's in his ninth. So you know what you're getting from both guys.

So now it's like, for him, he needs to be around, and I'm not saying DeMar's not a winner or anything like that, but he needs to be around a player who's won championships and who's really on that level. I think far as like, you know. I can think of one in Los Angeles. No, but when you're talking about superstar, you have... Stop. When you talk about superstar, you're talking about you have to start tapping into that

by year three, four. Yeah. Right? By year three, four, you're on the pace of, okay. He is touching superstardom. So when you're talking about your ninth year You know what I mean? You're at best you're gonna be you're gonna be you can be a number one option on a team That's not gonna really go much You can be a number two option on You know championship, you know pushing team, but when you're talking about that John

Morant, Luka type. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's about five years, that was five years ago. Okay, so that ship has sailed? Yeah. I mean, listen, listen, there's no such thing as ship sailed because, you know, everyone thought DeMar was, you know, moving down and when he got to the Bulls, he...

Right? So I guess it's just the right situation, but when you're talking about superstar, understanding that I have the superstar tag, you get that 23, 24. Yeah. Right? Trying to get that at 28, 29 is kind of hard. You think if he would have got drafted to the Lakers You think his yeah, he totally different if it got drafted to the Lakers if he would have

Would even even even he'd be there though, even if he didn't have you know when he got the Minnesota he has cat and Wiggins yeah, so he's like this third thing Yeah, right and then you get shipped off and then by the time that you're trying to get through your, you know, it's too late. Yeah. I gave the same type of assessment with Jason Tatum. It's one of my homeboys. That like a year four, three or four, I knew that he had capped his ability and potential

to like he didn't need nothing but repetition at this point. He was good enough to be the guy. All he needed to do was get confidence, repetition. Zach in year nine, the potential I feel like I'm not going to – I can't see him getting better than where he is because he's so good now that it's second tier to DeMar. I don't see him getting better where he comes back and he comes in and he's better than DeMar this season than he was last season. He has these elements

in his game that he didn't have before. So at this level, you go 9-10. You're 9-10. If we haven't seen the potential go higher and higher, like you said, it's like man, it's tough to even see him or give him the nod unless he's option one, option two, taking a lot of shots. And then even then, he has to have an incredible year to get that all-NBA, to get that respect.

And I think that's all about consistency. Like, over the years, consistently, have you been giving us 24, 25, where we can say, you deserve it this year? Yeah, but 24, 25, that ain't no superstar anymore. There you go. Right? Which is wild.

Which is wild. I think when he was catching his momentum, he got hurt, and then a couple injuries hurt. It's like he's trying to get back to, you know. Yeah. And also, I mean, they didn't have to give him, you know, they didn't have their point guard also. So I think without Lonzo Wall, that hurts a lot too.

When you have a point guard that can facilitate, make plays, he'll be able to maybe score and other things will be able to go up. But without a point guard, he's trying to figure it out. You talk about the pitch ahead. You talk about when we really are not allowed in the game. You know what I'm saying? Backdoor cuts. That's 10 more points the game. You know what I'm saying? Backdoor cuts. That's 10 more points for him.

You know what I'm saying? Easy little things to where it's like, okay, now instead of 25, it's 28 because he has that point guard. We're going to talk about that. Vincent Lonzo, he's been dealing with a knee injury, but it seemed like he kind of brought that stability to the squad. I think back when he was playing,

they were upper echelon of the Eastern Conference, had a lot of people surprised. Now without them, they're in that 6'10 range. They got Pat Bev kind of handling those duties, A.O. coming off the bench, doing that as well. Caruso kind of having to be forced to be in that spot, which he can do, but that's not really his game. So would an upgrade at PG fix most of the Bulls' issues?

Yeah, I think so. Upgrade as in to what, though? To getting out of the first round. Like, for a second. Like, I mean, making a run. Speeding up the game. Yeah, speeding up the game. I mean, for someone like Zach Levine, you need open floor basketball.

And I think that's where some of his stardom is being hindered. Yep. That, you know, they're playing half-court basketball, and he can't Vince Carter it. Right? Who does that cater to? With Vince Carter, Vince Carter still has size where he can push through people when he's jumping.

Yep. Zach, he's not going to push through anybody. Somebody jumps with him, once that hit hits, he's not going to really go through that. He needs to be out in the open where he gets to go between the legs, get his windmills, his 360, and those alone just pushes him. You know, those three, four fast breaks, a game where he's on SportsCenter, everyone's seeing what he's doing. That's where he has it. It just hasn't came out.

Talk about it. And you think about that aspect of it when you're not moving the ball at that type of pace. Whose game does it cater to? Demar. Demar. So you have two elements. If you're a good coach, you know, like, hey, we got two different sides of the game on one team. We can play half court and execute and get Demar his mid-range shots,

but we need a defensive guy that's going to block that shit, get that shit moving in the fast break. So if we don't have fast break opportunities, Zach is gonna be limited, right? And then if it's like Caruso and Bev's not out there really playing D, getting steals, getting deflections, where we can go out and move the break, you're really minimizing yourself to Vooch and DeRozan in half court,

which I don't think Vooch is that dependable half court. Even though he gets the numbers, it's really up to DeMar at that point. So speaking of DeMar, we got to talk about DeMar's daughter, who ended up being the X Factor in the Bulls win over the Raptors. She won MVP of the Scream team. Official visit to Florida State. What did you guys do? Patrick said I was down for whatever Coach Hamilton wanted.

Underrated. Mike is really good for him right now. He's in a good... So I was watching this game. Everybody on Twitter was like, who the fuck is that making all that damn noise? Then they found out it was DeMar. They're like, all right, we cool. Comp 10.

Comp 10. So the Raptors went 18 for 36 from the free throw line. 18 misses were the most they had in the game all season. Lebronto is now officially Duranto. But I want to ask you to start. I'm going to get to you, Gil, last. But should I start with you first? What's the most annoying thing a fan or player did to you while shooting free throws?

In the NBA or period? At any level. Man, college, man. NC State on the free throw line. I had a lot of girls, man. And all I heard was, STD, STD, STD. That'll get you. That got me.

What the hell? And it was the whole arena and I'm like, wow. But I say, I shake them motherfuckers, man. But you heard it, did it rattle you a little bit? It confused me because I was just like, they saying what I think they saying? For real? And it just made me think, I'm going to fuck a couple more bitches from up here tonight. Just because.

Just because. Allegedly. I'm going to do what I got to do just cuz. It was baffling. Baffling. Brandon, how about yourself? What's the most annoying thing? Nothing really.

I mean, I was overseas. The fans over there were just crazy. Were they throwing shit at you while you were shooting? Throwing flares. They would pop quarters and stuff on the floor. Did you ever get hit by anything while you were playing the game? Nah, nah. They had to cover over us, like overseas.

But nah, just flares and bombs and just a lot of singing. I feel like you're at war. I like how you said that like it's just some normal shit. We don't really see that out here. It was normal. I mean, to them, it's like that's what they do. When was the first time you saw that? Were you shook at all?

Was it like, what the fuck is going on? I think we was playing in Slovenia or something like that and we had to walk in and they had the army escort us in. They all had AKs. I'm 19. I'm like, yo, we going to war or we got to play a game? You go in there, it's like 20,000 people. They just flares in there and it's like, there's no way you're winning.

There's just no way. You ain get no no race no racist sit over there no not really not really bananas and all that yeah I got the banana I got the banana shit over there overseas Italy where it was in Lebanon oh yeah where they actually had a banana not only little kids too little kids had the bananas was like There's little kids too. The little kids had the bananas. It's like, hey, monkey, monkey, monkey. Little kids. You don't come get, if you don't come get your little son. And it's like, this is while we're walking,

like leaving that arena, like everybody's just kind of mingling. Hey, monkey. I mean, he is big, brother. I wasn't the only, I wasn't the only nigga out there. You know what I'm saying? You're black, my brother. Hey monkey Just me we got seven other imports out here I'm all the brother played out there and I should get that's a while. Yeah, it was why that's why What's the most annoying thing a fan or maybe a player. No, you got some shit. No, no, no. I hit the Mar, right? And I sent them a meme.

It was LeBron, right? With that Game 7 look and his daughter, right? And then I said, man, you can actually hear her on the tube. And he said, haha, she was locked in, bro. I said, you have to have her at some of those games when she's not in school.

He said, for sure. She love that shit. She was locked in the nice jacket, the sparkles. He let her miss a day at school to come to the game. I think the plan is now to not bring her to Miami for that AC game. I say fucking let her sit on the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One seat adjacent.

So mine was in Indiana. Oh, okay. It was in Indiana. The Shaq sleeping with my ex came out. Damn. Damn, Gil. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, shit. Right? Came out. Therapy time. Let's do it. I'm at the Frito line. Ugh. Right?

He's an urn. Two good ones, right? And all I heard was, Shaq, you're a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. I'm's do it. I'm at the Frito line. Right? Good ones, right? And all I heard was, Shaq, Shaq, Shaq. That wasn't the bad part.

The bad part, it was two kids behind a bench doing this. Yo, I damn near, like, it was like... What the fuck? I hit all backboard. Like, this is the rim. It was just, boom. Damn. Like, I just looked at it like, ooh, that was bad. Like, I missed both freaks.

I missed both freaks. Those brothers. Oh, this is about to be a rough one. I think I only had, like, 13 that game. It was bad. Oh, it was bad. Every time I got to the first hit. The gyration?

No, that's a, it was an incident. Just, boom. Just, ooh. I was like, oh my God. That's a movie scene right there. That's a movie scene. Especially when it's fresh though. That day, you just like, oh my God. It was day of? No, it was so... No, no, no.

Same week? The next day. Damn. So we landed in... First 48? We landed in Indiana. That's when it hit the news. So it was that night in Indiana. That's when it hit the news.

So it was that night in Indiana. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That's when it hit the news. That. So we landed in. First 48? So we landed in Indiana. That's when it hit the news. So it was that night.

And then the next day, we're playing in Indiana. All I could think is, oh, my God. Cleveland. Cleveland's going to kill me. Chicago's going to kill me. Oh, New York. Oh, shit. It's over.

But Indiana was the worst of that crew? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they had the two. That was new, right? Like the name is fine. And then when you just see it in action, just. Did you see it late? Did you see it late?

Hell no, I get the ball, you do my little thing, and then I looked up, and then you can just see the action. So you right about to go into the shoes. Right under, right under. Like shit. That was pretty good, motherfucker. That was pretty good, motherfucker. That was pretty good. He got me.

Speaking of the Raptors, Nick Nurse's name has been mentioned for other coaching vacancies. Looking like him and the Raptors are going to part ways in the near future. But if you Nurse, do you wait and see how the lottery plays out before making your next move? I need to know what the Wimby situation is looking like. I already know what's coming. No, when it comes to like coaching,

and I think we need to start understanding like how are we evaluating these coaches, right? Yes, talk about it. Talk about it. There should be, even on lower-level teams, teams that are in last place, if I'm judging a coach, I'm judging on how you started the season,

how you ended the season. Did your players get better from the beginning to the end? Right? Right? So with the talent you have, I don't expect you to win because you don't have you to win because you don't have talent but is that talent getting better if that talent is getting

better you're doing a good job as a coach right if you have superstars on your team and y'all are struggling a whole season you're not a good coach right right that doesn't you you have the talent and you're not maximizing it. So I always go, because there's beginner coaches, there's a coach like Stan Van Gunning. I call him a builder coach, right? Put him on a team like the Rockets, let him put the discipline in them, right? Three, four years when the guys are getting ready to turn them off, out, bring in a coach that can take it from there, right? Then you have some guys who will look horrible coaching young kids or middle, and they're just championship-type coaches.

When the team is ready for championship level, that coach comes in because that's where their mind is. So there's levels of coaching depending on. So it's like when you're in your organization, find a coach for the level you are versus just bringing guys in and then firing them and bringing them. No, you find the coach for the level you are versus just bringing guys in and then firing them and bringing them. No, you find the coach for the level you are, and that's how you evaluate your coaching staff.

Well, Nurse won a championship 2018-19, was coach of the year 2019-2020. Following year, they were 12th. Last season, they were 5th in the league, 3rd in the Atlantic, and then this year ninth, so Where's the loyalty? Yeah Well, you wanted it and then was that was that more no look? Yeah You want to channel I want about won a championship for you your first champion, right? I want a championship The day this person. This person left.

Once Kawhi left, what the fuck did you expect from me? Get us back to the... Kawhi left. Just get us back to the... They lost in the conference semis, game semis. Then we would give credit to Kawhi. Cool. Right? And not the coach.

So the coach, without Kawhi, get us back there. You're a good coach with who would nobody Get us back there with nobody you're a good coach cuz you got us back here with nobody but that's what I'm saying is it's Unrealistic I had yes, you gave me yes. I had the Rosen right? We're number one Yeah, the Rosen you get rid of the Rosen bringing Ka Kawhi We win a championship. Okay. Now the Rosen's gone. No, cuz we traded him Kawhi's gone So the piece that you can I get the Rosen back? You got it. How Larry's gone. What the fuck do you expect from it? I don't even have a number one option I got to see Akam. I got two number two options. Seeakam's is a number two option.

He was a number two option to Kawhi. Scottie Barnes? Scottie Barnes is a great two, three option. He is that guy. He's young. But he's going to turn into the guy that glues an average team into a championship contender team when he's at his full potential. What you thinking, man?

As far as the coach? Ooh, yeah. I'm just playing. I mean, I do agree, like you said, the loyalty though for that coach. I mean, he did bring a championship in there. It's their first one, their only one, probably the only one they're ever going to get. Oh, spicy. So, I mean, so switching coaches, I mean, does it really matter?

Like, does it really matter right now? Like for him to really leave? It's still kind of early. Like to me, like you just won a championship, what, two years ago, three years ago? So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what is the point? Like, what is the point? Like, what's the overall point of it? I got a whole assessment on the coaching things just simply because we look at the pool of coaches that should be sitting around waiting for jobs.

Nick Nurse should not get fired and then get a job right away because there's so many different former players that are waiting to coach, get an opportunity to coach. Guys who've been sitting around like Mark Jackson just wait for an opportunity, right? So there's no pool of coaches that are sitting there like I'm next up because I've been waiting in line. And so now what you have is a bunch of guys who are popping up out of nowhere who are now coaches of teams that we don't even know who the fuck these guys are. So I look at it like imagine former players being the face of the coaching staff on every team and having those coaches like Nick Nurse be a part of the assistant coaching staff that actually formulates all the stuff that you were talking about as far as structure of the team, get the guys going for the first three years, hand it off to somebody who can get the respect from the players to say, all right, we're going to take it this way.

I think that this is the way the league should start moving just because it brings the former players back into the fold of NBA basketball. And I think a lot of them feel left out. Even when you're looking at GMs, like Landry Fields is a GM, right? James Jones is a GM. But then you got KG and Paul Pierce and Gilbert Arena sitting, you know, being analysts when you could be upper management positions. And I think that if the NBA looked at the fanfare and how we can bring more fans

into the game and giving real players the opportunity to give their knowledge back to the game, Give these guys an opportunity. Give these guys an opportunity to fucking coach and give the coaches who are strategically and, you know, they're all about foundation and organization, give them an opportunity to be the assistant coaches and formulate the whole squad. I think that'll be the best thing for the league.

I don't like a guy like Nick Nurse leaving there and then getting a job automatically. And then like a Juwan Howard or Anthony Hardaway just get left out of the fold, just cause they ain't got the NBA experience. See a coach like, a coach that's went to college, right? And that's where his, you know, he played when he was in high school, Division III or some shit.

Then he studied to be this coach. That's like having a 5'9 point guard. You're capped off with information you can have. An ex-player who's played at high levels, who's played the game, who understands the game, he is like a 6-8-6-9-1-2-3. We watch the game from here. We've played the game from here. Coaches, coaches from here. Well, a coach can't learn this.

We've learned this our whole life. We can learn this way right so we're more valuable than a regular coach right what we don't have is how to put a practice together but we've been through every single practice that's been put together right and just like us we know the flaws in the practice like Don't start off here, and then we get lax that they go here, and then we get back and like we start off What would you say lax a days ago? Yeah? Okay? Like today's ago, so right like we know how to structure We know how to structure practice because we've been in every single practice from high school college

So we know what a practice should be like, right? Yeah, we might not know how to break down film, and we might not know how to put these schedules together, but that's what we hire those people for. But when you're talking about X's and O's, time management, angles, position. We can look in the player's eye to tell he don't have it today. He's 0 for 5, but he still has the confidence in his eyes. We can see that. With a coach

and his whole team, his whole staff is scared to say something because he's the head coach. Then he wants to put a player in and I'm sitting there like this fucker ain't ready to play the game of day. This motherfucker ain't ready to play, but I'm going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, go on in. Go head in.

Go on in and get your ass busted. Right? But as a player, I know, okay, the last two minutes, he might be number 12 on our roster, but he has an advantage over that kid right there. Put him in neutral. A regular coach wouldn't know that because they don't play this game they never played this game so you know when you're talking about moving forward look at all the successful coaches their first year like willie

green like you got all these coaches who've had success right because we know the ends i know what cities what players are going to do what yeah right i know um how a body will feel after four games or five nights i know how much time a player needs i know what type of practice i can look in a body language when we have in practice i can look at the body language and realize this is about to be a stupid ass practice no effort right yeah so i know how to switch it up hey you know what know what? We're going to watch like, you know what? How about this? Everybody take about 10, 15 shots.

And then, you know, go home. We'll come back tomorrow. I can see it. Right? So me just sitting, having you here is just pointless. The information that, like, shoot around. I wouldn't have no shoot around. You wouldn't?

Fuck no. Why? We're in an era of ADHD. Right? I tell these kids something. I give you a game plan at 10 a.m. Fuck no. Why? We're in the era of ADHD, right? I tell these kids something. I give you a game plan at 10 a.m. By the time 6 o'clock comes, the information I told these little fuckers, they done lost it. It's gone.

It's gone. They do not remember it. So now I got to reinsure this shit again. So I'm not going to have my shoot around that early in the morning. What I'm going to do is I have to expect that they party, party last night. I don't know what their night schedule is. Rest all the way until about five, six. We're going to have practice at five or a little shoot around at five. And then I can give you all the information. Now it's in your brain going into the game versus coming in at, you know, I'm waking you up, you get there like at 10, 11, and then you're going to go to sleep back at 1, and then you got to wake back up from your

lunch. It kind of throws off some players. I'd rather you just sleep all day and then wake you up at 5. But then when you get up from your nap, right, you come back, right, and then you're in the locker room, all the notes are still there. Everything is still there. Yeah. You know, what's... But listen, the shoot around shoot around wasn't listen the shoot around wasn't for our generation

It was a whole nother generation The shoot around came in because some people was doing some things ain't supposed to You know, I don't know if it was the 80s was the 80s was it the 80s 70s I'm 70 it was a hell of a drug it was And they had to wake these guys up to make sure these guys was like, no, serious. That's where it came from. To wake them up during the day to have shoot around. But, you know, it's one of those things where what is going on in shoot around? Like, shoot around, listen, for me, everyone get about 200.

We got an hour. Everybody get 200 shots. My big mans go through 20, 30 minutes, work on free throw. Game planning and going through the other team's half-ass. Like, how much information did you make? Are we going to do Brandon? Are we going to do the pick and roll? Are we going to do the pick and roll here?

As soon as the game starts, I'm going to forget what fucking pick and roll we're running. No, I mean, the coaches I had, I had Scott Scowles. I had Stan Van. Oh, you had Stan Van. Yeah, so Yeah, yeah, so they're very you know, very detailed So they're very detailed, but I didn't you know to me it was just a norm to me It was it was normal to me though. Like so I feel like it helped though shoot around. So you have five my guy Huh, you're going to Miami? See you at five See you at five. I like I like both. I like both right just because because preparation side, I'm a scouting report guy, right?

Just like you is. We don't need the morning, right? Because we already locked into the scouting report. We know who we playing against. And then, like you say, if I can rest up until 4, I'm going to be more attention. My attention is going to be more on what we're doing for the next four hours compared to waking up at 10. I got to go eat. I got to go back to sleep.

Now I get back up. Attention deficit disorder is a thing. You know what I'm saying? Guys got short attention spans. Then again, it is needed to get those 200 shots up early in the morning just to get shots up. Lift weights. All of that just to get the blood shots up, right, early in the morning, just to get shots up. Lifting weights.

All of that, just to get the blood flowing, get you up, right? Yeah. But then again, like Gil said, you can do that at four. You can do that at four? You can do that at four. You ain't got to do it at 10, but I get it. It's the routine of- Would you-

Yeah, but sleeping- So, okay, we went out all night and the night before, and then I'm sleeping all the way to four. I'm not going to be shit for the game. You think so? You're not going to be shit for the game. Hey, Allen Iverson, prove that theory wrong. That's for one.

I mean, that's one guy. But I'm talking about like everybody on the team, all five, there's no way they're going to all come to the game and be ready to play. They'd be lethargic and just kind of. Bro, you have all the rest, bro. Trust me. And the man, listen. No, you're going to be too rested.

You got to get up. I mean, I don't know. To me, I feel like getting up in the morning. We're used to it. That's all we knew. Right? when we when it's all we know that We can't see anything else. Yeah, right So it's like it's like but you have we think about it when we have back-to-back games and we don't have a shoot around Yeah, see you got the option. Think about it

Sometimes when we have back-to-back and it's like me to set the game at five. It's a different nigga then But you can't but I just don't agree with just like going coming into a city and then I'm meeting y'all at five like every City though. Yeah, I had like no shoot around is crazy. See my first, my first experience where I was just, like, there was a point in time when I was in go-to-state where a coach was like, no more practice, right? Meet at the game. Yeah. Right? Right? So coming to the game, sleeping all day, but that's why I said I got there at 3, did everything at 3 o'clock, right? So 3 o'clock, I wasn't playing, so I had to do all my conditioning and lift and doing all that and watch the game right but when you see that side of it you get to compare

yeah okay right and that's the only way we can compare if you've never went through it is just basically when we have those back-to-back games and coach be like all right meet at the meet at the gym you know then you get in there later on in a day and you'd be like all right this is a different field i always thought the best opportunity was when the coach said it's optional. Like, hey guys, look, if you guys want to come in, get shots early at 10, you can. It's not mandatory.

That let me know who was really about that life, right? Because if everyone showed up, let's run some plays. What y'all doing? You got your shots in? You got your shots in? Hey, let's go over this. Let's go over that. If we're going over it just as four or five of us, or maybe four of us is in the starting lineup, two other guys that are just

down there, it's like, let's run some stuff. Just because we want to be on top of our shit, as a team. But then there's other groups that come in and just just let me do my own shit I'm in and out. I'm not in here to do no plays. No, none of that That's the other side of it, right? But I look I look at it as a metric to say all right coach give me an option And I don't feel like going I'm sleeping this motherfucker in. I'm tired. I'm going to get there at four. But if I feel like B, like I need to get in there and wake up and get some shots up because I want to feel good for the game. Let me get double.

It's double for me. It's like I'm getting in ten, then I'm going to get there at four. And I'm going to get my extra shit. I used to love that shit when Coach Black is mandatory, right? And then you look down there and you got this group just working on plays and then you just yell out some is mandatory, right? And then you look down there and then you got this group just working on plays and then you just yell out some stupid shit, right? Just understand that all those plays gonna end with me shooting, fuckers.

And then close the door. It's all gonna end with me shooting, I don't know. All them options y'all running is not really, it's not realistic down there, boys. I'll fuck some shit up in that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I can picture myself on the second team listening to that shit. Motherfuckers.

It's motherfuckers. You're still going to pass me the ball. You're still going to pass me the ball. All right, fellas. So speaking of coaching, we got some breaking news. Just came out, hot off the press. Mike Brown will be coach of the year. This is coming from Woj

black man in America Why they got that photo why they got it with mouth all open like can he be closed mouth did Wow That's like Isaiah. He be the egg. Well delete this shit and put a new photo Mia Come on What's the photo say Keys. He said, come on. Come on. Why you got me with the perp walk photo? He said, Keyshawn, come on. Come on. That was probably the only outfit that he had that looked good in the suit.

But that's because it's not Keyshawn. I've been on that side, on the graphic side. You just take whatever photo they give you. But there's somebody behind the scenes plotting who had a beef to secure. But we're going to be giving out our own regular season awards later in the show. So make sure you keep it locked in the chat. Go ahead, drop it in the chat. Let us know who you think should be coached or your MVP, all that good stuff. We'll share our picks with you, see what you people think out there.

But first and foremost, we've got to talk about these young guns out in OKC. So Josh Giddey, SGA, gave Thunder fans reason to smile last night in their win over the Pelicans. So Giddey dropped 31-10-9 and showed he ain't no punk either with some verbal fisticuffs with Josh Richardson after he appeared to take a little shot to the nuts. SGA showed why he's going to make an all-NBA team this year. I don't know if it's going to be first, second, or third. If he doesn't, it's going to be a proper situation.

32-piece cooking in the second half. In regards to how the AFC game versus T-Wolves ends up, the Thunder look like they might mess around and be a problem in the near future. So question for the group. Does OKC have a new star duo in SGA and Josh Giddey? I'd love to go first. Yeah. See, all the Austin Reeves slack I was getting, that's the guy I'm going with right there.

Josh Giddey. Fuck about no Austin Reeves. When you got some of my damn Josh Giddey out there getting it on that Giddey up, getting that Giddey, getting the Gideon on their ass. No fear. I just like everything about him. And SGA, bro, I didn't know he had that type of game until this year.

Like the way he play, he got that extra gear, that extra get around you that I'm going to get this bucket. And I like they just need – they missing one piece. They missing one piece. And if they can get that one either big big man or three man, that can rebound and score. We're going to talk about it in a second because that piece is recovering from injury. He got caught up in Seattle in the summertime.

Got a little tanky injury. Chet Holmgren. Chet. You're not rolling with Chet. I'm rolling with Chet. I'm rolling with Chet. Excuse me? Chet has Negro tendencies.

He loves Jamaican food. He ain't no bobo. He ain't no bobo. Don't let him fool you. He ain't no bobo. Okay. No, no. He loves Jamaican food Don't let it fool you. He know Bobo. Okay. No, no He better than Bobo, you know both both for the culture though. No, he better than Bobo. He not know Bobo I know he's not no bubble. I get that. He's better than both whole like I don't know where you putting Bobo last. I know he ain't no Bobo. He's up here. Chet Holmgren is nowhere near Bobo. I agree with you. Bobo? Chet!

How? I get that. How could you say that? No minute sense wonder. What metric do you have to say that Chet Holmgren is... That's about 10 steps? That's about 10 steps higher than Bobo?

Ain't no motherfucking way in hell what with 20 you say 20 steps higher no I mean I'm trying to figure out what no ball ball slam roll the Lord's lander he shoot better than Bobo yeah he's your sure. He shoots better than Bobo. Yeah, hell yeah. What? He didn't watch college basketball. He didn't watch college basketball. He didn't watch college basketball. Yeah, I watched Bobo in college, too. Did you watch Bobo? He's lazy as hell.

But he was still doing his thing. Yeah, but he shoots better than Bobo. He should have been. Listen, Bobo should have been a top five pick. His foot was janky. He should have been a top five, but he was lazy as hell during the process. Chet Hungry's lazy as hell too. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But Bo Bo has sweat. No, no, no, no, no, no. Chet Holmgren looks lazy to me.

Bo Bo had the Prada bags and the Gucci flip flops at 15, 16 years old. No, no, he was on the, when he came into the, when he was coming into the process, he was on a whole nother one. As far as? I'm not doing that. I'm not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, this is bull.

But that was AAU mentality. You know that? That was AAU. It was real bad. It was real bad. But that doesn't take away from the fact that the kid is the kid. Like, Bo-Bo got it all. He got the handle. He got the jumper.

He got the, he is smashing. Like, Chet don't got that. You crazy. Have you watched Chet? Yes, I've watched Chet, bro. Man, Chet got game. He, I didn't, listen, I ain't saying nothing about him not having game. I'm saying compared to Bo-Bo, bro, I don't even know how y'all even going that route.

Are you are you sure right now? I'm a hundred thousand. Just make it short. Hey chat the chat the chat. There's not enough highlights and say home runs even go to debate with me with this. Hold on y'all. Hold on. I'm going to bowl bowl and I'm a bowl bowl stand.

I rock with my own. I am too. I am too. I like home run. But we're going to bowl bowl. I'm a bowl bowl fan. I rock with bowl bowl. No, I am too. I am too. I like to bowl bowl. But we're going to find out. Hold on. Chad, you have to play an NBA game. Hold on.

I'm going to the chat right now. Gil's on the chat. Why are you looking? He tripping. I'm always tripping compared to that damn chat. He got no clue what he talking about. That chat. That chat is janky. Bow bow. That's a janky ass chat. He tripped. He ain't seen him

McCann's thinking of a different player. Uh-huh. What they kill you in this chat room. They kill me in the chat every time You know the motherfuckers don't watch We put a poll they put a poll up to I hope you time. You know what motherfuckers do? They be watching. Listen. They put a poll up too. I hope you do all that. Do all that. Someone in there said he needs to be p-tested. Look, most of the people in the chat think LeBron better than Kobe.

If you think LeBron better than Kobe, I don't want to hear nothing about nothing in the chat. Fuck your chat. Fuck all that. Y'all think LeBron is better than Kobe? Get out of here. You think Bobo better than Chet hungry? How? No, no, no. You think...

I think Bobo is better than Chet. I'm thinking, how can you say that Chet is better than Bobo? It doesn't even make... It makes no sense. I'm a Bobo fan. Makes no sense. I ride for Bobo. He's good. No, he's good. He's good. He's good. He's proved it. But we gotta see. He's proved it. But at the end of good. He's good. But we gotta see. I proved it.

But at the end of the day, Chad gotta prove it in the league. Yeah, he gotta. But we're gonna find out. But yeah, that's gonna be a good... Like, I like the two guards. Like, two, three, one, two, three, whatever. They're nice, right? They're young.

They're nice. Like, SGA, you're right. I didn't... Like, you see the quirkiness in him, right? You see, like, okay quirkiness in him right you see like okay he got a little he's like bones right you you got something here and you know um um Olin the coach you know I mean his uh his um his trainer has been doing a great job you know yeah big yard yeah um so you can see you can see the confidence that the kid has in him. And I think if he gets into the playoffs, you know, sometimes that playoff, even if you go 0-4 and you have like a 30-piece, you go into the summer with a whole different swag.

So if he can get that eighth seed and then get into the playoffs and do some damage for his own self, he's going to be a whole other player next year. So let's talk about this Thunder squad. You got SGA and Giddy as their core nucleus. They got a bunch of young dudes on the team. But the Thunder, shout out Sam Presti, collecting them first-round picks.

15 first-round draft picks over the next five drafts. Damn. So they have the potential to wheel and deal, make some moves, slide disgruntled stars around the league. So in addition to that, like we talked about, they got last year's number two pick, Chet Homer. He looked like he put on about five good pounds. I'm sorry.

I'm just saying. Yeah, I'm laughing because you said five. I was like, did you say five? About five good pounds. Wait, is it real? Because, you know, Rip Hamilton, there's a story of Rip Hamilton and he had to gain, he was supposed to gain 10 pounds, right? And he couldn't gain weight because he always ran.

So he used to take the five pound dumbbells and then put it on his side and then weigh in for those 10 pounds until they found out someone asked, where the fives at? Where the fives at? Where the fives at? Where the fives at? Where the fives at? But just to say, so even with Chet coming back, it's unknown right now. If he plays any way like he played in Gonzaga, his lone year there, that's going to be a nice addition. A nice little trio right there.

A lot of good assets to make moves, build a competitive team. So question for y'all, can the SGA, Giddy, Chet, quote unquote big three, Thunder reach the level of success with the KD, Westbrook, Harden era Thunder? That's some shit to think about. Those are big shoes right there. Those are big shoes. I'm going to say those are some big shoes. Huge. NBA Finals appearance, you know, Western Conference.

NBA Finals appearance? Down the road. I'm not saying... Yeah. Western Conference. I mean. The finals appearance. Oh, for the. Okay. Down the road. I'm not saying. Yeah. I don't think they're going to get. Because when those guys did it, James Harden wasn't even James Harden yet. Westbrook wasn't even Westbrook yet. Yeah. So.

If they get there, they can actually be better at an OKC together. Yes. But if they get there, they can actually be better at an OKC together. Because they can have five, six years to really develop there because the other squad didn't actually get that chance because one was still coming off the bench. So I think those three can have a better OKC career together than. Yeah, for sure. That's basically what I'm getting at. I'm not trying to compare.

You think you're going to be better than KD? I don't think they'll get to the championship, but as a trio, I think they can be a better trio. I'm saying with those 15 first-round picks in the next five, that's a lot of moves that can be made to strengthen that roster, but really it's a matter of if I'm a free agent or a player, do I want to move to OKC

and eat at Applebee's every year? Let me just go ahead and stop you. Listen, 15 first-round draft picks for OKC. That owner, I don't think with the new collective bargain agreement, they don't even have enough money to even pull off any greatness because you technically have three max players just in those three. They don't even have enough money to even pull off any greatness. Because you technically have three max players just in those three. Yeah.

Right? Whatever you draft, if the team has success, those players are going to be worth something. You're not going to be able to manage the shit you got. That is disaster movement. You got to be the Lakers. You got to be Miami. You have to be a team that has that type of income coming in for you to manage that

team. That city's too small to have 15 first round draft picks. Let me scale back my statement then. Let me scale back my statement. My statement was I didn't trust Chet to be the big for OKC. Let me take that back because he's going to be an asset for them. Right. So I guess I'm

thinking right now, real time, like what they would need now to turn the corner, not even including him into that fold. But now that you guys have put in perspective, gave me insight of, OK, what he will be able to give OKC when he's at the back, size, ability to block shots, can step out, shoot the jump. He's going to give him a lot of good shit, right? So that trio does look promising, especially if Giddy keeps getting better. The Westbrook-KD comparison between just the two talents. I'm not gonna say that it surpassed that cause that talent between those two is incredible.

But as far as, like you said, four OKC in the West to always have the ability to compete, I like those two. That's scary, young guys, bright futures ahead of them. Yeah. Brandon, what you think? Like you said, 15 first round picks. I like their core. Can't wait to see Clint come back and play.

But we'll see. You know, we'll see. I don't see them making any finals moves or anything like that. But they'll be in there competing hard. And they'll be making a run. Like, you know, they'll give a team a scare or something. But I don't see anything final-wise. But they'll be always in that hunt, though.

Wait, 20? Let's fast forward. Let's say the organization is smart enough to... Hold on. That organization has actually brung in, when it came between the twos and the threes, they've pulled in a lot of top talent. Yeah, for sure. Mellow, Alden, they've pulled in some talent. BG. Short, for sure. Mello, Alden, they've been pulled in some talent. Short term, right? No, I'm just talking about peer throughout there.

OKC, right? Yeah. Reggie Jackson. Reggie. They've pulled in some talent. Let me see. Let's say 2027, 2028. If they're all still together that could be golden state good

Especially if they add a couple more pieces That's all I'm saying you have those to be what 28 or 27 28 26 priming Yeah, I must say shy is 24. So he got yeah. Oh, I mean if they're all still together Now all three of them. That of them, even without the draft picks that we know of, those three together, five years from now, they could be dominating. Yeah. You got to remember, everybody else is old. So who has a great young nucleus that will match the three talents that they have in

the West? Probably SAC. Probably SAC. SAC, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably just them and SAC. But who has more upside? Yeah. OKC. OKC, yeah.

Right now. Right now. We can't count on Fox and Sabonis though. Yeah. But just, you know, how long is that group left? But no, they're stupid up there, right? So they are. I mean, we're talking.

They are fucking idiots over there, bro. We're talking. I mean, because they can't afford it. You got to remember, those three maxing there, right? So they're not. I mean, we're talking. They all fucking idiots over there, bro. We're talking. I mean, because they can't afford it. You got to remember, those three maxing out, that's fucking 600 million between those three. So before we move on, this will be quick. You said Bo Bo better than Chet.

We asked the Chet. 500 votes in so far. 52% say Chet, 48% say Bo Bo. A lot closer It's gonna go against me no, this is going against Yes I was thinking 80-20. You know what I'm saying? That is delusional. Yeah, you was here. I was here. You're more right than me at this point. I'm just saying. You're just a puff off.

I'm just saying, bro. I thought you was like at least three blunts full. No way. No way. I smoked one before. I was rational with this. I'm like, shit, home, man. I mean, 52-48, that's not bad, bro.

We're going on his Gonzaga career scale? No, better than Bobo. And we're going to have more in-show polls because we appreciate y'all really showing your love, giving your votes in. But we talked under. Now we've got to talk about these Pelicans, and it's time for some trust issues. Okay, there it is. Just take a second. So we've got to talk about kind of, you know, the biggest story going on with the Pelicans.

That's Zion. Was cleared to play play reports where he's close to 100% but we saw a video of him working out before that playing game be real he didn't he didn't really look 100% he was struggling a little bit to get up looked like he had a few extra pounds on him they probably didn't need but earlier this week Zion spoke with the media. I can pretty much do everything but it's just a matter of the level that I was playing at before my hamstring. I'm just a competitor. I don't want to go out there and be in my own head and affect the team

when I can just be on the sidelines supporting them more. He ain't wash his ass in a week. Where I could just be on the sideline and he would rather be on the sideline. I mean, I'll say, yeah, Zion, I'd rather have you in your head on the court. Wait, wait, wait. That was Zion. Y'all remember that meme where they said Zion when he retires and it's just this big old... Booger McFarland? Booger McFarland, yeah.

Right? That's a real person. No, I know that's a real person, but I'm just saying, like... Yeah. I don't give a fuck who cleared him. He's not cleared. That is not... That man weighs... I guarantee he's pushing...

300. Three, 305. Because I can tell you this. Sources say when he was in Duke and he heard us when he blew out of his shoe, they said he was pushing 305 when he was out. He was at 305. The seat... It's nasty.

Yeah. Come on, what are y'all doing over there? They're putting him in hoodies and shit He look like that's the same But they try to hide them in hoodies and shit so he don't he's trying to hide in hoodies, but I'm a big man I hide in hoodies, but you can still see these Hooters poking through so It only do so much is what I say guy. We're black. You gotta know about the color. We're never Y'all watch this show y'all nursing me in a way. This is what I'm trying to figure out, right? You are the

Pelicans, right He's been training you feel he's healthy Right. Are you not looking at the weight scale at any point? Are you not looking at the body fat? Are you not checking? When are you going to say, hey, hold on, this is our fault. This is our fault. We're trying to clear a man. We can look and see he's not clear.

He's not ready. Ain't a muscle in sight right now. Right? Damn. Ain't a muscle in sight. I don't care what... You can see it. He's still huffed up. You can see it. He's still huffed though. You can see it, right?

When do you say, hey man, listen, hold on, look, we're going to do some bleacher work, we're going to work, right? I wouldn't... If I'm the owner and I seen that video, who cleared him? You fired. You're fired. You didn't clear... What do you mean you cleared? Because if the media even puts pressure on he's supposed to play, I know what's going to happen. Yeah.

He goes up, that weight has to come down. Absolutely. He's ruined. Like, no. We're going to do some miles. We're going to run. We're going to do some condition. Sit in the steam room, ride the bike.

He should be every game. Hey, listen. Every game, fuck your suit. Right? Get in that little trailer right there, and you ride your bike the whole game. You see players doing that, riding their bike the whole game, during the game. There ain't no suits sitting there with your jury on. You ain't doing nothing, drinking Gatorade and shit.

You ain't losing not one calorie, right? Sit on that, run it for hours. As we play, you play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is embarrassing. It's organizational, though, right hours. As we play, you play. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. This is embarrassing. It's organizational though, right?

That's embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah. They should have put that man on TV like that. They should have slimmed his ass up a little bit just for the optics. Man, step back a little bit. Aw, man. Show it up or down.

One of the two out of the shit. Give me the good list. Well, y'all think about it. The one place we all heard that was like hell on earth for staying in shape was Miami Heat with the body fat percentage expectation. Yeah, send his ass to Miami. He'll be good. So when we heard about that, it was like, damn, y'all got to do how many sprints before the game?

Before training camp? Training camp, yeah. And then if you didn't play 20 minutes, you got to do what after the game? Yep. Excuse me? Y'all was playing three on three and two on two after the game? Yeah, I remember that. Right? So think about... Today they still do that.

Organizationally, you look at, okay, the Pelicans. Y'all don't got the same kind of requirements that the Miami Heat got as far as keeping your guys in tip-top shape. They in Miami Beach, where we know they drinking and doing their thing, but they still show up in tip-top shape. Y'all in New Orleans?

New Orleans? Foodie? That gumbo do be hitting out there. I'm just saying, you have to somehow offset the lifestyle of the city. Yes. You got to lifestyle. Like, you know, like, it's, you know, send his ass to Pat Riley.

You trade him for Pat Riley. Like, hey, Pat, take him for training camp real quick. Right? Do us a favor. Loney, Loney, Loney. John Lucas, you got him for the whole summer. Going down to Houston, boy. Kill him.

Just don't hurt him. Kill him, don't hurt him. All that. Right? I mean, this is... Because I'm giving up on him. That look bad. Like, I'm not giving up on him that look bad like i'm like i'm just i'm just like man whatever bro you only got to be here i'm not giving up on him like i i

feel more i feel bad for him because the age he doesn't understand how important it is he doesn't know like i made the take 2000 when he was coming into the NBA, and I said, man, by the time he turns 23, he's going to look like Charles Barkley. Yeah. I said, y'all are gratified. Y'all talking about 280. He's 6'7", 267, 285. And I wrote, when was that attractive in this league?

He weighs more than everybody in the NBA. And that's attractive? In the league that's going slimmer. You think that is okay for a 19-year-old to be 285? He hasn't hit no Gatorades. He hasn't hit no clubs, airplanes, back-to-back, rest day. He's 285 in a school five days a week Do we go to school on Saturday Sunday?

Okay, I don't know Five days a week where you're running in practice and practicing and playing games, the NBA is opposite of that. You can be on a team where you practice once and play three games. When you're playing three games, you're playing, what, 32 minutes? 32 minutes. Right? That's 32 minutes.

Versus a two-hour practice in college. Right? So he's just going to gain weight. By 23 years old, the motherfucker about 3.05, 3.15. And y'all gonna be complaining about his weight problem. Look where we are now. So before his injury, Zion was averaging 26.7 in five and 29 games a season. He's played 114 games in the past three seasons combined.

There was a report earlier in the week that teammates and management were not happy with Zion. Larry Nance jumped on Twitter to refute those claims. He said no one in our locker room is looking at Z any type of way We're with him every step of his rehab and support his process physically and mentally don't listen to people saying things just to give views however after the game last night in the loss CJ McCollum appeared to be sending some shots out directed at Zion. Yeah, I mean, if you would have told me we was gonna play 10 games together this season, and win 42 games, I would have said that's crazy.

But for us to be successful in the future, in the long term, we gotta be able to play together. We need our best players on the court. We need to be able to play extensive minutes together, especially meaningful games and big games, and really showcase what we have to offer. For us to contend for a championship

and make a real playoff run, that's what it's going to take. That wasn't no motherfucking shot. Do we have the other clip? Okay, so we don't have the other clip. Oh, shit, you got backup shit. You got hitting the jitters,

okay, all right. So the other clip, but I'll just read you the quote. He said, availability is important, man. We've got to be available. We've got to do what we need to do off the court in terms of preparation, in terms of getting treatment, in terms of getting the right sleep, the right type of hydration, having the right type of diet.

Everything has to matter to us for everybody, 1 through 15. If we don't do that, I'll never have a real answer for you as to why we can't accomplish because we won't be able to see it. He also talked about how he had a thumb issue that he's been holding off getting surgery on and essentially played these past couple months with that lingering and essentially more or less said

that any other guys out there too. That's a vet talking for a guy who's with Dame and they've been there and they've had the sacrifice and they know that it's more important what you do off the court to help you on the court. Being a professional is not just when you walk into that arena.

When you're talking about dieting, when you're talking about, you know, getting rest and all that, it's, it's, you're at home 90% of the time. So what you do at home really affects what you do inside that arena. So, you know, if you're not resting, if you're partying, you're eating bad, it's going to affect your performance, right? You're drinking, you know, Bud Light every night. That, that's, That becomes a problem on how you really perform. What he said is accurate from a veteran standpoint. How many years has Zion been in the league? Five.

This is his fifth? Five now? And he's only played 114 games? Last three years he played 114. This is his fifth year because he just got... Five now? And he's only played 114 games? Last three years he played 114. But let me – This is his fifth year because he just got – I mean – He just signed that extension last summer.

And what's the, like, time frame in the league? What, three to five years? Like they say, what, three to four years maybe? Yep. I mean, listen, if he ain't going to get his shit together, I mean – This is his fourth year. No, fifth. This is his fourth year.

We can move on. Right? So year four but did not play 21, 22 the entire season. 24 games. His rookie year, 61 the next year. Wait, you said how many his rookie year? 24. Brandon ready to cannon.

You ready to cannon? He came late in the mix. I'm ready to trade him. He can go. But is anybody going to go? No, you can trade him, but anybody going to take it though right now? Yeah. I would. I mean, but anybody going to take it though right now? Yeah.

I would. I'm not even going to lie to you. I mean, they're going to take... I'm not even going to lie to you, motherfucker. We not talking about the meat and potatoes of the situation though. The real elephant in the room is the mental health that the boy is going through. Expectation. If you listen to what he said, man, I'd rather be supporting my teammates from the bench

than being out there in my own head. What does that mean? Your expectation as a player coming out of high school was you're going to be the next LeBron James. First two years, we didn't see that. We've seen glimpses. But now, all right, you've been hurt. You've got a weight issue. Now everybody's looking at him like, is he ever going to be what we thought he was, right?

And then you come back and you get hurt again. So now you're doubting yourself if you're ever going to be that guy. We've both been injured where we like, all right, am I ever going to get back to the level where I left off? That's traumatizing, shameful. So when you see him in that interview talking like, man, I just don't know if I could show up for my teammates. That's a mental health thing. That's the depressive, what we talked about earlier, the soft culture where you got to meet the fire. You got to go and hit that motherfucker head on and face it because accountability is going to be the thing that gets you over to mental health.

The fact that you sitting here overweight and you're not doing everything in your ability to get that weight off. And you keep telling me that he young and that that's going to be our excuse for him. But for me, the accountability is when you start getting in your own head and you don't want to get out there because of that, that's Ben Simmons shit. You going into the Kevin Love shit. Like, I have a problem with the pressure because I don't know how to meet the pressure. And I'm like, look, bro, if the pressure's the thing, you might want to sit it down. Because now from this point forward, you really going to have pressure because you just outed yourself. Yeah, that's not, I mean, it's not going away.

Where's his vets at? Where's the vets? There's no vets. I mean, who's the vets over there in New Orleans? Willie Green, the coach. CJ McCullough. CJ. President of the MVP. I don't see like, it's part of mental, but not the mental that we're thinking. It is not that I don't think he thinks he's not good enough, right? Like when he's played, he's done told himself.

Like you can see it in every game he's played. He knows what level he's at. The mental part with him is probably that Derek Rose in Cleveland, right? Where he don't trust his body, right? And that's the fear. Like the fear is, I know I'm not 100%, I know I'm not, when he says old Zion, he's talking about the Zion from college.

They got drafted. Right, that Zion that was probably 265, 275, right? Right, that jumped out the gym. That's the only Zion that he knows. So now you're talking about him trying to do these moves with that weight, right? And that's what he don't trust. Yep. And, you know, when you're sitting there looking on a scale,

and you're seeing 300, 395, and you, I mean, I'm sorry. I was going to say 395. 395 is crazy. But what I'm saying is you're, I'm sorry. Three, nine, five. I was going to say three, nine, five. Three, nine, five. Three, nine, five is crazy. But what I'm saying is you sitting there looking at these numbers, you know that shit ain't going to get it done. You know it ain't going to get it done. So I think he would rather just say, you know what, let me, I'm not even going to test it out because I already know what's going to happen.

I'm going to go out there. I'm going to do these moves. Something's going to happen. I'm going to spend the whole summer trying to rehab. I'd rather just sit this out and then spend the whole summer working on weight loss. That's what you should do. That's what you should do. If you come back slim- You come back 265, 270.

Yeah, but if you don't, if he's still the same way by next year, I'm going to go. It's a year too late for that. It's like, damn, man, we came up with this plan with you two years ago, bro. Yeah. But sometimes you need to see the shit unfold. Yeah. So real quick, just the three of you, what's the best advice you would give Zion about dealing with the mental and physical coming back from injury?

Right now, I'll be at games. I'll be sitting there doing cardio. I'll be sitting games, I'll be sitting there doing cardio. I'll be sitting on that bike. I got an hour during the day, hour at night. So when they're doing shoot around and all that shit, I'll be sitting there on the elliptic or just on the bike. What's the off season now? So games is done.

From now today moving forward, you got about what? Get into like four months We're with him right now with his I'll be getting in pool. I'll be getting in the pool. I do a lot of swimming Right. I do a lot of I'll try to stay off the treadmill I'll wait till he get down to 285 Before I start to do anything like on my legs together like running with heavy weight still hurts your joints. Before I put any pounds on it, I'll be in

pools. You've done the treadmill inside the water. I'll do that, the Alter G. I'll do all that stuff until I get my weight under management before I physically do stuff like playing and running. I've never known you to be so nice, Gil.

You've been so nice right now. No, it's called realistic. It's called fasting. That doesn't... Boy, put the food down. Put the fucking food down. Get on a juice fast. Stop eating. It's hard.

No bread. That's hard. Juice fast is hard. It's hard for fat people. Well, I'm telling you. As a resident fat person on the show. Listen, I have a formula for you. No bread, no dairy, no sugar.

See? You see? I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Just listen. As a resident fat person on the show. Listen, I have a formula for you. No bread, no dairy, no sugar. See? You see? I'm going to go home right now, hit the hogging dog, make me a little hot lick damn with this hash.

It's discipline though, right? So you look at it, you say, hey, Zion, the moment this season stops fast, bro. Give us a good three-week fast. You're going to drop at least 20 pounds. That's true. And the fact that you're a nutritionist on the team or in your family that y'all have hired has not given you this formula. No bread,

no dairy, no sugar. Chop it out. You will drop weight like that. They have. That's the thing. They have. If you're not listening. No, no. They have. And then when he goes home and everybody leaves. That's what I'm saying. I'm not,? No, no. They have. And then when he goes home and everybody leaves- Pop five sticks.

That's what I'm saying. I'm not... I'm worried about the diet, right? But in the summer, it's baby steps, right? You can't cold turkey anything. Right. And that's what I'm saying. Get the metabolism running first and then eventually start going into it. Because I was 234 in Orlando, right?

In shape, but I can see the fat in my face. Yeah. We're doing a lot of eating. And Brennan Bass. Brennan Bass used to bring his juice. And I used to be like, what's that? He's like, this is fruit juices and all that. So I started working out with him. I went from 234 in two weeks to 206.

Boom. So you know it worked. No, no, no. I know it worked. But I mean, it was still hard, though. Because, you know, fat. And what was in that smoothie? It seemed like.

No, just fruits. It's all fruits. And all that. Just fruits and vegetables. 28 pounds in two weeks? 28 pounds. Because I'm working out still, though. So I'd rather him start his everyday work and get that into your system, right? And then take a little things out.

Take something out. You still have your... Then take something out. So by the time you get to the season, you done dropped 40, 50, 60 pounds. And this man talking about two weeks, right? 28 pounds in two weeks. And this is proven. You got four months.

So you can stretch that out. And this is not just like... He's working hard, right? It's 28 pounds in two weeks and this is proven. You got four months, so you can stretch that out. And this is not just like he's working hard, right? Just like I work hard and if I want to lose six pounds in the next week, I know exactly what to do on top of my regiment, right? So just think if he's done, he don't even have a real crazy regiment. He ain't doing Pilates, he ain't doing other shit that could really tone you up. He's just waiting for the weight to drop. You could still do that and see the weight drop, but just imagine if he's really got a real work ethic to say, I want this shit off me. Yeah, for sure.

It's going to change. You know what else I think he should do? He should get with guys that play in the league that had that type of weight problem. Wait, yeah. That's Al Harrington? Yeah, Al Harrington, like a Melllow, or guys that kept themselves lean during the season. I think those type of resources.

I'd say Udonis Haslam would be a great replacement. Yeah, Udonis Haslam. See, that's different because he was programmed from Pat Roddy early. Early, yeah. But that's to stay in shape. That's what you need. Look, you retire in UD, come cheer with me for a couple weeks. But somebody who had the really... You're talking about Al Harrington who had to be

quiet. Caleb. Caleb had to change his diet. Right now, it's still... I never believe in... When you're talking about weight clauses, I've seen players who are sitting there, they're in steam rooms, they got the fucking whole bike in the steam room in the sauna and they doing their shit. There's times, we're in a game, they don't have a suit on, they're sitting in there in that little tunnel park, and they bite. Right?

So you have to find ways to still get your shit on, you know. And that method, too, what you just said, in the tunnel, getting your work, and everybody know you're not playing, you showing the fans. You working. Man, I'm trying to get out there to fuck with y'all. Like, that gives the fans that grit. It's like, no, keep him. No, he want to get out there. fuck with y'all. That gives the fans that grit. It's like, no, keep him.

No, he want to get out there. Let's keep this thing moving, man. Very good chat, though, Zion. We hope you were able to glean a little bit from this. It's award season, so the 68 percenters get to officially vote on postseason awards. But we're going to flip the script. We're going to do our own Gills Arena postseason awards. We already know Mike Brown got coach of the year.

But let's look. So for MVP, Gil, you got Embiid. Brandy, you got Giannis. Rashad, you got Joker. Defensive player of the year. In a surprise mood. Gil, you have Scott Foster. Hey, man.

Give it up for Scott. Scott Foster. Brandy, you got Brooke Lopez. Rashad, you got Mobley. Rookie of the Year. Paolo, the banker. Banchero, Banchero. And then Rashad, you've got Kessler.

Okay, Walker Kessler gets some love up in here. I can just give a little bit. White boy wins. So coach of the year, most approved. The only things you guys agreed on unanimously, Mike Brown, coach of the year, Black Lives Matter. Sixth man, you went with Quigley. Brandon, you went with Portis. Rashad, you went with Tyler Hero. Most approved

SGA across the board. We were not about to put his full ass name on that graphic. Do you notice though, like, Brandon will not let up off the fucking Bucs, my man. He's going to make sure the Bucs, one of the players is going to win.

He is Bucs-nation. He's Bucs, my man. He's going to make sure the Bucs, one of the players is going to win. He is Bucs-nation. He's Bucs-thin. He is Bucs-thin. I got three Bucs in here. Number one. Number one. He's Bucs-thin. They've been a long time company.

He's going to walk away with one Bucs. We're going to have to do a girls arena from Milwaukee. They show love on the playoffs. They show love. They all solid, though. I like poor this at the six man team. Alright let's take a look at first team, second team, third team, all NBA. We got those all on one graphic. Y'all are okay. So that first team, y'all all got Embiid on there. Again you got Embiid, Joker, Giannis, damn Luka. Damn Luka squeuka squeaked in in the first team. Like the boo-boo performance by the Mavs.

You rolling? Yes. Brandon, you got Steph, SGA, Joker, Giannis, Embiid. Y'all all got Giannis, Embiid, and Joker on there, right? If I'm not smoking crack. And Rashad, you got Steph tonight. Steph and Dame. Dame makes first team.

Wait, hold on. Hold on. Go back. Nah, nah, nah. Someone had Tatum and all that. Y'all are, y'all, y'all. Wait, what? Y'all, wait a minute.

Rebo. Rebo. Excuse me. Oh, so y'all went with this. My list is my list. I don't know what you talking about. These are the lists that we submitted. What are you talking about?

Listen, because I don't like the fact that you have three like MVP candidates, just so people understand. You have three MVP candidates, right? And these are technically the three best players in the NBA. And then one goes on second team. Fuck that. No, I don't. Because what they're going to do is they're going to try to put, you know, whoever don't

win an MVP, the other big on second team. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Yeah, I don't because what they're gonna do is we're gonna try to put you know, whoever don't win an MVP the other big On second team. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Yeah my first yeah, I had Tatum On the first. Okay. Yeah. Oh you don't have yo, you don't have you know, you don't have Joker. Yeah Yeah, I went by position. Yeah Yeah, I went by position to I put in bead at the five Joker at the four Yana same thing I did the same thing. Yeah, let's go in by position. Joker's a five. Me too. I did the same thing. I did the same thing. I did the same thing.

I'm going by position. Let's go ahead and look at second team. Joker's a five. I know. I know. You got Donovan Mitchell, Steph. You got Kawhi, LeBron. Makes sense.

And Tatum. Brandon, you got Dame, Luka, Jalen Bryant. Jimmy Butler making the list. Yep. Joker. Yep. And then Rashad, you got SGA. Wait, why the fuck don't I have Kawhi?

Why you have Kawhi as second team? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Jimmy Butler making a list? Yup. Joker. Yup. And then Rashad, you had SDS. Wait, why the fuck don't I have Durant? Why? Why you have Kawhi as second team? I don't know.

Mitchell, Tatum, Durant, LeBron. So, Durant, LeBron. There's supposed to be Durant out there. Yeah. Listen, I can't put Durant or LeBron on no second or third team. If they're not on the first, I just can't do it. So you put Jalen in there? Second team? Yeah, I'm going to give somebody else a shot. LeBron

and KD, I can only do first. Damn, KD my bad. God damn. It's disrespectful. You sure I didn't have KD? It's a K. No, you had KD 13. Why? I think you had KD 13. And let's pull up the third team. I would never put a Clipper on second team.

Yes. You got Jalen Brown, S SGA Darren Fox making it through KD and ad I like KD is second team The Clipper is third team just for the record. So you swapping if I can that's a lot Do you do we just go have pick swaps? Let me check Used all my use all your pick swaps up. Brandon, you got Drew Holiday, keeping it very Buck-centric. Donovan Mitchell, lawyer marketing, making it. Julius Randall. Yeah. Randall.

And Sabonis, Rashad Trae Young. Who picked the Nick? I did. De'Aaron Fox, Jimmy Butler, Jalen, and Sabonis. Okay, go ahead. Why'd you pick the Nick, Brandon? I mean, they've been hooping this year. Okay. I mean, they've been hooping. They, go ahead. Why'd you pick the Knicks, Brandon? I mean, they've been hooping this year. They've been hooping. They've been winning.

I just went with guys who's been winning, consistent, and has been playing. The only reason I didn't put LeBron and KD is because I feel like they've been hurt a lot this year, and they've been coming out of the lineup a lot. I mean, and I just don't agree with putting neither one of them

in the second or third team. I feel like my picks have been the best so far. I mean, and Tra just don't agree with putting neither one of them in the second or 13 I feel like my picks have been the best so far. I mean entry young to We'll let the chat chat decide Yeah Who you whose picture rocker went who you're third team, that third team solidified. Your third team. Your third team. You got to give us trash. Mark it out. Drew Holiday's third team for sure.

I was close with Drew. Fox made it to the playoffs for the first time. He's on a team. Drew Holiday's an all-star this year. It don't matter. I mean, but they're number one too in the East. I don't matter. I mean, but they're number one, too, in the East. Oh, no. They're going to go over trade?

Over trade? And it wasn't just Giannis either. Drew had a lot to do with that this year. With Chris Middleton going down? Your third team might be horrible. I mean, it might be disappointing. We're going to find out next week. Chad dropping in now.

Somebody throw the poll up. No players? Time for our last segment of the day. It's Thursday. Everybody got to get to their lives. We're going to get this MostlyFans. We need some music. We need MostlyFans music.

Something like some old Ron Jeremy. Oh, they can hear music on the thing. We can't hear it in here. Oh, they got music on? Oh, they got fucking music. Chad, I need to talk to y'all. A lot of y'all was lazy. Gave y'all the prompt up at the top of the show. A lot of y'all Oh, they got music on? Oh, they got fucking music. Moth me fast. Chad, I need to talk to y'all. A lot of y'all was lazy.

Gave y'all the prompt up at the top of the show. A lot of y'all going to get put on waivers, 10 days, get traded out, because y'all wasn't really bringing the heat. But we're going to talk about Dame Lillard. Dame Lillard did a Stephen A. show last night, the playoff watch, the pump fake manny cast, whatever, the de-gentrified version of it. Yeah. But the de-gentrified version of it. Yeah. But the de-gentrified man he cast.

And the name. The watch parties we were doing well before they were fashionable. But Dame said he's going to need this team to make a move this summer, essentially. I'm not going to put words in his mouth. But if the Blazers don't do something this summer to strengthen this team and this roster, he's going to have some decisions to make. So, quickly, I'm going to go around. Will Dane be in a Blazers uniform next season?

No. No. Okay. Follow up. Where will Dane be? This is a warning shot. This is a warning shot for him. Like, he's like, hey, look.

Y'all better make some motherfucking moves. Y'all got about three and a half months, maybe even four. I mean, a contender. I mean, at this point in his career, a contender. I mean, you want to win. So, I mean, you broke every record in Portland. You did everything you needed to do. I think now it's just time to get on a contender, a team that makes sense.

You know, I said Miami. I think Miami makes sense a little bit. I think they need another scorer. Does it make him a hypocrite because it's going to end up being a super team wherever he goes? I don't even think it matters. He's getting traded. It's not like he can leave.

No, that's what I'm saying. Because it's not going to be his choice to go to a super team or anything like that. But the fact that he stands so firmly on being where he is and not chasing the ring when they move him is gonna be considered a move to chase the ring no that's the narrative that's the narrative it's not it's not gonna be a narrative because he's getting traded right so it's you know they they use those narratives when you leave oh he's leaving where you ask for a trade yeah like you know if it's if it's one of Because they use those narratives when you leave. Like, oh, he's leaving to go to this thing.

Or you ask for a trade. Yeah, like if it's one of those things where they trade him before the season because they are not going to put him in a position. You can see L.A. Right, you can see L.A. You can see Sixers. You can see Boston. You can see Miami.

Knicks, I know, have been a team that's been mentioned. Whoa, stop. They've been mentioned, Gil. Stop. They've been mentioned. So is he going to go East Coast? You think he's going to go away from home? You might as well stay in damn Portland.

He's going to go away from home. He's going to go to the Knicks. I like Sixers or Miami. 50. Sixers. They already have Brunson. Yeah, if James go back home. There's no loyalty in this business, Gil.

You know that. I don't see Miami being a place he can build and win right away. I don't think they're continuing. They're far. Especially when you have the Bucks and Boston still firm. I would say Philly makes the most sense. I'd say Philly makes the most sense.

One, two, and three. You got a guard and a big... I mean, if they go back to Houston... I'd rather put them with Giannis. If I'm going to go like a big man like that, I'd rather put them in Giannis. Yeah, but if the Bucs win, you ain't making no moves. If I'm the Bucs and we win, I'm making a move.

You want to get rid of Drew? You get rid of Drew Holiday. Or Middleton got to opt out. I'll get rid of Drew Holiday and Middleton. For damn. For damn. Ooh, Gil. That's tough. Come on, Gil. For damn. Ooh, Gil. That's tough. Come on, Gil.

Even if we win it. And that's loyalty, too. Because if I win, everyone else is getting better. See, I don't like when teams win, and then they think that's good enough. Yeah, that was good enough for this year. Everyone's going to try to load up, so you don't want to be that team that wins a championship, and then you can't go back to back because your stupid-ass society. Oh, we're good enough just the way we are. You're you're right drew and middleton i'll say i'll say one of them drew in middle drew

and middleton for dame and then i can get i mean you're gonna have to because it's contract then i can find a three yeah then i can find a go i can find a three somebody else on the squad gotta go i don't know who it is port Portis? No, I can't give up. That's what I said. I can't give up Bobby. Bobby's a fan favorite. Grayson Allen? Grayson Allen?

I ain't going to fuck with him. Pat Connaughton? I don't even know. I don't know if I want to get rid of Grayson either. I like Grayson. I like a little white. But it's going to have to be something that- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Crazy. Tripped ass. Tripped ass. It's cool. They still got Jay Crowder. Yeah, still's cool. They still got Jay Crowder. They still got Jay Crowder over there. So, I mean, yeah, the contracts have to match.

So, Chad, go ahead, drop in where you think Dame will be next season. Will it be the Blazers or will it be elsewhere? But that's our show for today. Where's the questions? Yeah, man. I'm waiting for the smoke. The Mostly fans. They ain't got no smoke questions. There was no fucking Mostly fans.

I know, man. You want me to go search for questions? Go search some questions, Gil. Hey, man be fans. They ain't got no Smokes. There was no fucking mostly fans. I know, man. You want me to go search for questions? Go search some questions, Gil. Hey, man, y'all hear me? Ask some shit. But that's not a question. Ask some shit.

Don't be scared. This is not a question. This is a comment, Gil. Somebody said, I used to stop arenas when he was at Grand 11th grade. 11th grade, cap,

average 32. Senior year, though, he ran wild. Who said that? That's cap. 11th grade, cap, average 32. Senior year, though, he ran wild. Who said that? That's cap. Whoever that is, that's cap. Average 32 that year, so I know I bust your ass. You lying.

I'm lying. You lying. I know I got you. Someone with the handle JK. Think about it, Gil. Who did you play named JK that locked you up? No one. No one locked me up.

No one. He talking about JV year. Tomorrow, freshman year? The bench locked me up. No one. He talking about JV year. To my freshman year? The bench locked me up on JV. No, he said my junior year. Junior year. He got buckets. Whoever that, JK, you got, bro, you got buckets.

I put buckets on him. But we appreciate y'all. Do better with the questions. That's why I prefaced the Mostly Fans Guild. Who was it, JKid? No, he'd been too old by then. Man. That's why I prefaced before you, I got to do better.

Drop these questions in, we will include you on the show. You get some shine, you get some clout, you can show your friends, family, side booze, main booze, whoever it may be. Oh my God. Easy Cody. Yeah, get the one with the- That's our show for- That man was a hell of a dude. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

That man was nice as hell. I'm going to put the knife on you. You got to get the- Yeah. I figured I was trying to get three of them fucking tope tonight. Hey, that's our show for the week. We appreciate you, Underdog Fantasy World. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. I figured I was trying to get freedom.