Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Predicts HUGE NBA Trade Deadline Moves

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Gil's Arena Predicts The NBA Trade Deadline For Struggling Contenders like the Los Angeles Lakers and Milwaukee Bucks as Gilbert Arenas & the Gil's Arena Crew preview tomorrow's NBA Trade Deadline and discuss how GM's can give superstars Giannis Antetokounmpo & LeBron James their best shot at an NBA title. They also preview the Super Bowl by reacting to Travis Kelce gentrifying the fade haircut and debating if Patrick Mahomes is the Steph Curry of the NFL before reacting to Austin Rivers suggesting that Lebron and Bronny James shouldn't play on the same NBA team. Finally they break down Kyrie Irving's return to Brooklyn where he and Luka Doncic each dropped 30 points on the Nets & discuss the Phoenix Suns' Big 3 of Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal finally clicking together and turning into one of the most dominant teams in the NBA. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:29 Travis Kelce Stealing The Fade?? 0:11:32 Patrick Mahomes The Steph Curry of The NFL? 0:17:27 Luka & Kyrie Best Backcourt In The League 0:25:48 Conditioning In The NBA 0:34:36 The Suns Are Starting To Look Dangerous 0:43:51 Gil RIPS Doc Rivers Again 0:49:17 Austin Rivers' Comments on Bronny 0:53:49 Is Bronny NBA Ready? 1:03:12 Predicting The Lakers Deadline Deals 1:11:32 Lonzo Ball Is Back In The Gym 1:21:18 Celtics Trade For Tillman 1:37:24 Steve Clifford Goes Off On NBA Players Who Can't Help Winning 1:39:26 What Makes a Bad Coach 1:49:21 How Important Is It To Teach Winning? 1:52:48 Is Winning Worth Changing Your Game? 1:59:38 Is LA Still Lakers Country? 2:06:28 Basketball IQ vs Talent 2:13:40 MostlyFans 2:24:31 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Y'all don't know what goes on in practice. Or the locker room. Bon Appetit! Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. The rain has subsided. We are back. Finally. The AC's still janky in here though. Still janky, get with working on it. I be turning it off, so I be turning it off when y'all leave.

To make us sweat? No, then right before y'all come, I turn it on, so that's why it's not as cold. You being frugal? My bad. I'm literally. Yeah, I would. It's like turning the lights off in the house.

Goddamn lights on in this. Everybody asks why I always wear shorts. I'm a bigger gentleman. I don't like to sweat, so. Got to keep it in ready. You're about to explain yourself. I do, because the chat deserves to know. Dog just kidding.

There's something about a dude who wears you know shorts in the winter They're gonna wear it in the summer. They're real one. Oh, you're right. I'm a year-round short wearer They get shorter in the summer. No I got the same issues as Drake so I got Got the same Drake issue, so I got to keep the shorts long you already know Don't click on Drake League. That's what we learned earlier this week. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up? Gil, again, the fashion definitely upgraded. Valentine's Day coming soon. Looks like you are getting prepared. To spend money? Oh, yeah. I'm excited.

Ooh. I I'm excited. Ooh! I'm so excited. We got Lexi Brown, fresh off her three year extension with the Sparks. Ooh, two. We gonna make it three. We'll make it forever. Never leaving. We will have our Gills Arena suite at Sparks games.

Never leaving. Pull up, feel free to give us your opinions. Yeah. It's a rebuild, guys. It's a rebuild. Keep that in mind, okay? We're. Yeah. To rebuild, guys. To rebuild. Keep that in mind, okay? We're going to have a good time now. Shout out to the Gills Arena social team and the Spark social team coming together. That was beautiful.

To promote our very own Lexi Brown. That was really nice. And we got Kenya Martin back here with us. What's that? What's going on? Exciting show for y'all today. Oh wait, is the chat already going? No. I think they really think it was a three-year, $75.

Yeah, because I don't know why you fucking said that, but whatever. It was an inappropriate deal. I'm just saying, you know, it was a slave deal most likely. You know what I mean? It's like that old Magic Johnson. You know 20 years 20 million ain't you know the age of one of those I know that was good back to him right we got a reason he realized wait a minute No, what? Okay, yeah, come in mm-hmm. I'm taking a 500k still Flip the court

Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Lonzo Ball hasn't played in over two years, but what should we expect from the former number two pick if and when he gets back on the court? Austin Rivers thinks Bronny would be better off not playing with Bron in the league, but is that facts or cap? And on the eve of the trade deadline,

should the Lakers make a move or ride out with this roster? Gil, I know you have some opinions, but before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code Gil.

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Look though, look, though. I know it's Black History Month, Gil's arena, but who's your favorite white basketball player? For me, I'm going with J.J. Riddick off top, and I ain't ducking no smoke from Gil. Kenya Martin, bruh, is a man I can apologize my bad. I baited y'all and I cursed in front of my kids for a hundred bucks i'm sorry and gill i'm a fiber optic engineer bro so what if i got a tattoo on my face you're not the only

one with work ethic you know i mean and it's black history monster no i'm a black man i gotta be able i can do anything bro stop the bullshit Shout out y3 official He's a black man black history month, but he asked who's the greatest white Hooper? I'm gonna go ahead and throw the challenge back. We will not answer that question until March 1st You will not get your hundred dollars until the month of March. You can't be asking that question during black here. Shuma, bro But we are gonna get this thing started with white men and more specifically white men with certain hairdos Big game this weekend in addition to answer questions about his boo Taylor Swift

Travis Kelsey had to clear the air about his hair New York Times tried to get Kelsey packed up at the beginning of Black History Month After trying to gentrify fades and rebrand rebrand them as a Travis Kelsey haircut, so yeah Let me get that Travis Kelsey, I don't know what number it is on the wall on the hair car sheet on a Travis You get the number three so Kelsey was asked about it this week and had this to say. It's absolutely ridiculous. And to do it on February 1st and throw me to the wolves like that, that was messed up, man. I don't want anything to do with that one, man. I got a good fade if you need it, though.

It's a two on top, a nice high to mid fade with a taper in the back. But I didn't invent that. I just asked for it. Travis. He called us wolves? No, the people on Twitter. Okay. I mean, he knew exactly what he wanted.

I want to know what barber he goes to. The Travis Kelsey. I wonder how many people actually went in there and asked for the Travis Kelsey. Let me get that Kelsey. I feel like they made that went in there and asked for the Travis Kelsey. Let me get that Kelsey. I feel like they made that up. Yeah. They made that up. No, people in Kansas City.

People in Kansas City. Like, they was getting the Patrick Mahomes hairstyle. Travis had this haircut for a week, right? Like, he always has his haircut. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But when you get Taylor Swift, your profile upgrades, can you? Travis is a Cincinnati alum like yourself.

You rolling with him him rocking the fade Just how to make sure he had the Kmart stamp of approval Just like just people that's not in the know that's writing articles that Yeah, this... Yeah, I've been going to the barbershop for a long time. Right? Since I was elementary school. Like early 80s.

Yeah. Right? That haircut been on the wall since then. It has been on the wall. Since then and before then, because some of them, they had to replace the poster because the son of that bitch was rolling up on the corner. Yeah. Nah, people are damn nuts, man. So another, just side note,

when Travis Cousy was at the University of Cincinnati, he used to get his hair cut by a guy named Crispy Chris. Okay. So I'm just... I'm with you. Hey. Crispy Chris, if you're out there. I always wondered, like,

you know, when you're going there, like, who has to cut your hair for you to be on the chart? Like, you know, when you see in the chart, like, yeah, like, 12, like, number 12, like, that's where I want to be.

Like, I want the two, but how do I, who's cutting his hair know, I mean, that's wrong wanna be I want like I want the two but how do I who's cut his head That here cars a hair chart. What who picked the numbers? But I'm just saying like, you know how fresh your shit had to be to be yeah It's like a model shoot You little you don't know that you just like yo,, I want whoever cut it whoever cutting them but to cut mine Yeah, I yeah, that's where you just send the barbershop. We'll just watch like nice

The worst is when you point to it point to a number and the barber does not come close Let me get the five you don't know I do the five We out of fog bro I do the fire. Why the fuck you got it up here? I'm glad. I don't gotta worry about that. We out of fog, bro. What? They had women's hair salon. They didn't have the numbers? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But I never did. I just got my hair washed and blow dried. Yeah, my mom ain't going for that shit. Nah. Let me get the BAPs. Yeah, your mama.

Let me get the BAPs. I blow dry. Number three. She did perm my hair, though. Bap's a great movie, Ty. I like that. Bap stands the test of time. Yeah, but yeah, no. I was a little girl.

I barely got to get my hair straightened. So when I did, it was a event. Yeah, my mama wasn't going for none of that shit when I was a kid. I had to get one haircut, one haircut. Oh, nigga, that bitch was the cheapest one. Even all over. Even all over. Even all over.

Yeah. Yeah. Then one year, my mama butchered my shit. Like, she couldn't afford to send me to the barbershop. Tried to cut my hair, and we had school pictures. Ooh. Been there. Oh, there's one out there.

He's in his foot on the pitch. Been there. There's thick-ass part. Like, oh. Butchered me. Sent me to school. All right. Dog. thick-ass part. Like, oh, butcher me. Send me to school. All right.

Dog. I tried to get myself the Stefan Marbury part back in high school, but it kept getting wider and wider. More oblong. I had to roll with it. So, Ken, a question for you.

We don't give invites to the cookout, obviously, but is Travis Kelsey worthy of an honorary to-go plate? No, he can come to the cookout. Oh, at your crib to the cookout. At your crib? At my crib. Okay. Absolutely. Can J.C. Kelsey come too? Absolutely. Okay. The Cincinnati Bearcat. Okay. Bearcat pride.

He the reason that there's a I'm saying his brother was got kicked off the team. Yeah. He went to the coach. For weed right or what? Yeah, he was just acting, partying. Having fun in Cincinnati and got kicked off the team. He was the coach. For weed, right? Yeah, he was just acting, partying, having fun in Cincinnati, and got kicked off the team. He was the quarterback. Got kicked off the team, brother vouched for him. Came back and the coach was like, well, I already got my quarterback. You can find another position.

I need a tight end. Worked out well for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much. That story's funny, because that story's even funnier now, because when he says, you Yeah, yeah, pretty much. That story's funny cuz that story's even funnier now cuz when he says you got to fight for your right to party every time they win something. The fact that that's what he got in trouble for.

He definitely did have to do that. Absolutely. Put him in the right position. That's crazy. That's a funny story. Yeah, he cool as a fan though. So let's talk a little bit about his teammate, Patrick Mahomes, generational quarterback, seven seasons.

He's already got two MVPs, two Super Bowls, and two Super Bowl MVPs. But when asked which current NBA player his game resembles, Mahomes offered this response. If I played basketball, I'd be just like Steph Curry. I mean, I got the shot. I just got to get a couple extra reps, you know, a couple shots up, and I'd be shooting just like him.

I mean, like, that's who I'd be. I think he said a couple extra reps. Well, he was equivalent. I thought he was talking about his football game. Yeah, equivalent to Steph Curry.

So, Gil, it's funny you say that. So, Mahomes can actually hope before the Chiefs banned him from playing pickup a few years ago, he was out there doing his thing getting buckets. Chiefs saw that video and said, get your ass in the QB room. Wrap it up. So what's your thoughts on Mahomes saying that he plays like Steph? And why, like we had the girls were in a shootout,

and like 30 people said they shot like Steph, and they did. Okay, I'm not paying attention to his basketball. Absolutely not. His football, the way he plays the game of football, who he is as a football player, translate that, I would say he is the Steph Curry. Yeah, I would say that. is the Steph Curry of the NFL. You don't have the super athleticism like the LeBron James and the Michael Jordans and

you had to craft your talent around your skill and you've changed the game in your way. I feel like that wasn't his logic though. Not at all. I'm just saying. Not at all. But that's what I was going with. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you are? Yeah, yeah. Before I heard him finish his statement,

that's like, you're an amazing quarterback, Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. He got some athleticism, though. I'm going to just have a little trickery in how he plays the game. You know, he had to perfect what he does, just like Steph had to. Yeah. I'm with it. So football players always think they can hope but who's a football player of you seen that can actually who Terrell, you know, I've played against her well a lot. He gave you bucket jump out the gym Yeah, he's just always in shape. He's always in you don't stop. Yeah, he just

Do okay. Yeah, he's jumping. He can jump. Have you ever been dunked on by a football player? Hell yeah. All they want to do is dunk. That's why I can't play with them. Terrell got me. Porter got me.

He was a wide receiver for. Jerry Porter? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got me off of like posting up, and then the ball got loose, and he picked it up and just jumped. Julius Peppers. Yeah, we played against him in college. He was a beast.

Julius Peppers, boy. You know who I seen? Ronald Curry was nice. He was nice. He played both, too. Yeah. Him and Julius Peppers played both at Carolina. Football and basketball?

Yeah, played both at Carolina. How did that work? So once football season ends, they can come. Just hop in. Football and basketball? Yeah, they play both at Carolina. How does that work? So once football season ends, they can come. Just hop in. Yeah. We have Mercedes Lewis on our team who's been in there for like 19 years. He was number one.

He was like the number one point guard in the country and quarterback. Yeah, absolutely. Damn. AI? Yeah. We don't see that often anymore. Yeah, they say Chuck was probably a better quarterback than he was a basketball player. Tony Gonzalez could hoop too, for those who don't know.

Stand out 100 beats back in the day. Beastie dudes. That's why I don't say dudes translate well to the other sports and vice versa. Like, dudes that, yeah, you. Them dual sports. I've had this conversation because when I was doing some off-season training, I was in a facility with a lot of football players. What sport do you think has, like, harder training?

Or, like, you have to be, like, more skilled? Because when I was watching the football players train, I was like, oh, their training is crazy. And I have never felt that way until I saw it myself. So how do y'all, like, what do y'all think about, like, the difference? Like, do you think there's a difference? Or you're just, football, you built for basketball? Okay.

Okay, just like the Kelsey one, right? You're a quarterback and then they can change your position and then you can be pro bowler in that sport. That's hard. Yeah. You know, in basketball, you know, it's you the point guard and then they lie. You the power forward today because you grew. Yeah, that shit ain't working. Right? But if you started from when you were little playing both, you have adapted to both.

You're just a different breed. You know, football, if you just did football and then you tried to translate to basketball, just your natural mechanics of a basketball player would not be there. You're going to look like a football player on the basketball court. Robot type. But I still think they would look a little bit better than a basketball player trying to go play football.

Depends on the position. Depends on the position. If you watch football players hoop before, they can dunk, do all the crazy shit, but they don't know how to land, hand-eye coordination. Dribble, they got to jump off two feet. If you put us in a training camp,

like the reason they say we can't do it because of the physical part. Right. Because we're not hitting the weights like they did. But if you say, all right, you're going to hit the weights and do this, then my one leg is vertical, right? So when they're throwing passes,

I can actually leap off one leg and go get some of those passes versus just jumping off two to you know catching you run through the middle I can get there Yeah, you put on what she put you on the outside you were fast. Yeah, she liked it Yeah, no, it translates my you know, my zigzag speed It's yeah, I mean obviously I've never played football but I've had a lot of conversations with people who were like I Played both and then I chose football or basketball everybody's reasoning is so different why they chose one or the other so I was just interested the hits is different right oh yeah my brother yeah my brother my brother

played one football season when he was young he got hit hard once yeah that's the only thing you hit me yeah I played up what is this again he was, what sport is this again? He was over it. Where's that flag? Where's the flag? Put my flag. The flag for the football hall of fame. Seven on seven. You played in high school, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm talking my sophomore year. Yeah, no, it's... Yeah, when you... More like... Because we grew up around athletes. So most of us played both sports and it was some Some of us was better at basketball and football some good at both like our quarterback do name Pat like packer scored a shit out the ball in basketball and

Was a hell of a quarterback. So it was that shit like this. It was certain guys like friend of mine It's pretty good at basketball, but he ended up going to NFL So it's like whatever you can go to school to do That's where we're from or like with us like she don't want to get your scholarship to go play football Because we see that basketball I'm good at but they want to give me a scholarship to go play football So that's what so that's the one you take but I was a football player first. I was football and then you got hit and then I became basketball. You took your pads off on the field? Huh? You took your pads off on the field? No, I woke up.

Oh, you felt it? In basketball tryouts. Did we win the game? Like, because I was one of those, I was like the big type, you know, height, you know, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like,

you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you know, you're like, you're In basketball tryouts. Did we win the game? Like, because I was one of those, I was like the big type, you know, height running.

I was like so, I was like really aggressive for the sport. And then there was just one dude that. Yeah, it's always one. Yeah, it was just one. He was Filipino black. He had some shit mixed in him, you know, and hit me. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I don't like this right next time Just just let me know you got me just come on. I got you. Okay, I'll stop right here

I was really you know, I was cocky to run him up doing all that I was and it was like yo the dude on the Eagles His name is Sean Lee. Do not try to quarterback sneak on him. He's a hard hitter. Yeah, I got it. Right, you like looking dude little. Strong as hell. Try to quarterback sneak. Yeah. Yeah. Woke up looking at your ear hole.

Yeah, woke up and just, where my helmet at? Yeah, he done knocked that one off. Yeah. Football's crazy. Let's move on to some basketball with a little hibachi time. There we go. Shout out to our production crew. The lighting, the mood lighting, the sizzling.

Getting that bag. So Kyrie returned to Brooklyn Tuesday night. Didn't get a tribute video like KD got last week. But him and Luka did give the Nets an assortment of buckets. We got some of the clips right here. Kyrie, 36 points. 15 for 24 from the field. Absolutely beasting.

Luka almost messed around, had a triple-double. 35, 18 rebounds 9 down Get oops with Irving. This is with the good to see Kyrie on the court Okay, I'll shoot it. He just knocks it in Ebony and Ivory going together in perfect harmony Highlighted the game. The one-handed. He can jump right. Boom. At the free throw line.

Donchich here. He just knows he's got the size. Uses his body. Creates space. Shoots it over the... So, question for the couch. When healthy, are Luka and Kyrie the most dangerous backcourt in the league? And the health part is always a big if.

Dangerous. One-two? So it's one-two, right? Point? Okay. Offensively, for sure. Yeah, that's all we care about. I mean, I'm just asking one of the two.

You're not stopping either one of them. I mean, because it's Bill and Booker. Right, Bill and Booker. That's the only other one that comes to mind. Yeah, Bill and Booker. So yeah, I'll give it to Kyrie and Luka right now. James and PG? That's one, right?

That's a good one, too. Kyrie and Luka. Kyrie and Luka. I know you're a big Kyrie fan. I got good one, too. I'm Kyrie. Kyrie and Luka. I know you're a big Kyrie fan. I got to go with, yeah. No, Luka, that shit is effortless, dog.

It is like really effortless. It's getting ridiculous. For him, Luka is effortless at this point. And he young as... Listen, dog. He stick around the way he's going that thing now what the only problem that the only problem that hurts Luca is the same being that hurt dirt right you you your body type itself yeah right it's not the engine that can you know know, when you slow up, shit, you slow up.

Like, when we seen Dirk at the end, he's coming down, like, you know, he's coming down. That 400 became eight seconds, you know, with no injuries, right? You know, versus someone, you know, who has that genetic, you know, when they go from 40 seconds vertical, they go to 42, right? They steal above Everybody else so, you know, it's just when he slows down That's gonna only even if he stays healthy just his natural body when it slows down is gonna be real slow I got obviously he had a fan booted from the game recently saying he need to get his ass on a treadmill But when you look at looking just the he plays, do you think that conditioning element

is going to be an issue down the road? Is it right now? Like, does he need to lose some weight or is he good with where he's at right now? I mean, if this is him out of shape, Jesus Christ.

I feel like he's in shape. Is he actually out of shape? I don't think he's out of shape. He just looks... Just his body looks... Just the way he looks. Just the way his body looks. Like Paul Pierce.

Yeah. Paul Pierce. Some... I'm like, y'all really think this man Pierce. Yeah all peers He's out of shape that's what I'm saying, he's so it's like a weird dialogue that's going on but I think he does work on his body and his strength, okay, there's a there's a I mean, it's Okay, so because most shooters do not do nothing with their arms This part of the skin you see Looks no tone. There's no tone coming here, right?

Everything is here right, you know Earl Boykins the arms Take your shirt off. Yes You got any place my dude Right because because you know most most, you know shooters don't do curling to get the definition of arms. So if you're looking from the jersey, it looks like they're out of shape. Just like with James Harden, right? He'd be like, oh, yeah, he's out of shape. You take your shirt off, he has abs.

And you'd be like, yeah, that don't make sense. Is that true, though? So as a shooter, Gil, you try to avoid lifting a lot of weights? Yeah, never. Not fucking with them? Never did curls just curls I didn't know this none like like this Anything that did this right here no, but like shoulders you did

Show like bring it down get a little muscle got a little deep range But I don't really like bicep curls either the bicep curl and the kid that that look like it look like I'm strong and cut Up no yeah, we're not going for that one Curls either the bicep curl and the kid that that look like it look like I'm strong and cut up. No Yeah, we're not going for that one Yes, you know something new every single day on gills arena presented by her dolphin, right Are you didn't know no weights Were you lifting heavy during your career Yeah, we're just natural. Yeah, I have to wrestle with grown-ass me I lift weights. Were you lifting heavy during your career? Yeah.

Or just natural? Yeah, I had to wrestle with grown-ass men for a living. Absolutely. Yeah, we had to lift. Lift hard. Did your whole team have to lift a lot? You just do what you feel? Some people did.

Yeah. But yeah, nah, when you- Did Kerry Kittles lift? Yeah, yeah, but it's just certain things he didn't do. He did do, yeah. But I didn't pay attention to it really like, yeah, I had to

because I was playing that shit. Everybody I played against weighed more than me. Everybody. So I had to be. The chat said

you were doing curls. Oh, yeah, yeah. Now all the big men was in there lifting. Oh, yeah.

All the big men. I was lifting. I was eating weights. That's six mile a little pull. We come in there like, yeah, with them f, all the big men was in there. Oh, yeah. All the big men. I was lifting. I was eating weights. That's six mile a little pull-up. We come in there like, yeah. What are them fives? The fives. Yeah.

The bands. Ain't nobody using them for sure. Ain't nobody sitting there doing these. They said, true story, because Rip Hamilton was skinny, right? So they said they had a weight clause on him saying he had to gain 10 pounds, right? So they said every time he weighed in, right right here used to take the five-pound weights and put it like Yeah, so when he sit in there he look heavier than somebody out of them and said yo what a what a fives that

Both the fives is the mister And here's like man I'm a bucket getter. I just get buckets. That's all I need to do is get buckets. I don't need to be the strongest in this gym. I was like, yo, that's funny as hell. I asked Chuck why he don't lift shit. He said, that shit hurt. Absolutely.

He can't do it. Steve Henson just tried to get him to lift. Chuck just come in that motherfucker, dude. He get him to do a couple band exercises and all that. Chuck just been a fucking with people I get to the point. Hey man, get out Like you child get out of here your child We try to get something done in this bitch

Now I didn't live here like if some dudes I see lift going a bitch and live dumb hard on game day. I'd be like What's your intentions? What you about to go out here and do? Like a foul? What? Yeah, like I would do my legs on game day. I do legs on game day.

They're not heavy, but just activate my going to do certain things, but, because I was going through knee problems, you know, I had to go, had to make sure it was good before I went out there

and tried to go jump today. Like, oh yeah, this feels great. Yeah, it do another lift and heavy come out the lock the weight room like yo you do know we got you Go tip off, right? I ain't gotta shoot. Yeah Going after the game like going after the game. That's the wildest I didn't they didn't make call me

I didn't play a lot. They didn't make you go in and play a lot? They didn't make you live through work out after? I don't know what that ever was, Lexi. I love that for you, KU. I averaged 30 something a night, but I don't know what that was. Even me, I didn't... Some teams do it, because I've been on teams. Yeah, dudes did on my team.

Oh yeah, no, but I've been on teams that- Go get on the treadmill when they get done. They had to run on the treadmill. They had to do some shit when they got done and go work. Yeah, no. Dudes did on my team. Oh, yeah, no. But I've been on teams that didn't play. Go get on the treadmill when they get done. They had to run on the treadmill. They had to do some shit when they got done and go work. Yeah, absolutely. I seen that shit. I'd be like, wow. The thing with me is I knew I wasn't going to play.

Why you still got your uniform on? And they saw me working out after shoot around, so they left me alone after the game. Like, I've heard some teams have, like, you must lift. I know the Suns do that. Yeah, but my argument is, why do I want to be strong in the NBA? The stronger I am, the more you penalize me. If it looks like I'm getting fouled, you're going to give me the foul.

So if I go in there and, you know, I'm sitting there super strong trying to wrestle with Earl Boykins, they don't give me the benefit of the doubt, right? I'm sitting there trying to, you can do anything to Earl, right? Offensive foul, he can sit here and do all this and let it go. So if you were a coach, you wouldn't make your players that didn't play a lot work out after the games? I wouldn't advise them to get bigger. Yeah, no, not weights, but like cardio.

Because think about the strongest men in the NBA get the less fouls. Yeah. That's the Shaquille O'Neal's, the Dwight Howard's, the Broncos. The stronger you, the Yanis, you know how many times they get hit before that whistle blows? Then you got somebody like a Trae Young, them, they can get as many fouls as they want. So in theory, why would you be that strong when I can just be Trae Young and go to the free throw line just as much

as you or more. Yeah, they got like, I went to watch KJ and them play a couple years ago, and after the game they got the whole team, like it was a road game, and they got the weight shit set up outside the locker room, and the whole fucking team out this bitch lifting after the game. I was like... Damn. Yeah, that's crazy.

Whole team is crazy. What the fuck? Like everybody out this bitch like, damn, everybody just played too, like damn, they I was like Whole team is crazy. What? Everybody I just be like everybody just played to like then they had to do something if they no matter what I was like Yeah, cuz it definitely happened to college But not major lived up work out or run ball again. I didn't experience that in college But my teammates did and then now my first few years as a pro. Yeah, so I didn't live in I didn't live in college. They got mad at that and then you didn't live You just didn't show up to lifts. I just sit in there I was Chuck sitting there walking around like oh, yeah, you gotta do this you sit on the they had like a bear push leg

Then you just sit there just listen to my lady. Are you finished? Yep Good thing you went. It's a good thing you went there, brother. Bear down, baby. Because one thing's for sure, two things for certain. If you played for Bob Huggins, and oh, you came to Cincinnati, oh, your ass was lifting weights, bruh. Yeah.

And what no, I ain't lifting. OK? I mean, he getting buggered. I mean, he getting buggered, baby. Oh, absolutely. Y'all have like a conditioning to it? Oh mean he get I mean he getting Oh absolutely Y'all have like a conditioning. Oh, yeah, I love that No, I was a track runner. So I love running. No, you wouldn't have True what was your conditioning test? No, I want to know what Bob I was doing five

I was doing five miles a morning Okay, I was just running one we was doing we started off doing it because we was getting trouble all the time So we had to wake up five in the morning. I won every race He was not beating me baby like I wasn't that's what said I was a 400 runner So that's what I like doing. Yes. Where were you getting in trouble for not going to class? I do that Who's for fools? Getting off Arizona school is for food. I disagree with that So the last day so your last day of conditioning for Bob Huggins

2222 22 is what down back down back. Yeah, 22 of them 22 sides in 22 seconds 22 sides Huh? No, no, no, I was down and back down and back in 22 seconds. How much rest in between two sides and 22 seconds. Up, down, up, down. That was y'all's? Huh? That was y'all's? No, that was them. No, I was down and back, down and back in 22 seconds. Of course. How much rest in between?

22 seconds. So 22 seconds. While the guards go, the bigs rest. So the goal was finish faster, more rest. So it's... Two more seconds of rest. Wait, it happens. But then you had to, but then you had to, before you can get on the floor to practice,

you had to make your mile in a certain time, of course, but... Yep, so... But then you, but the last day of conditioning was 22-22. Yeah, that's why, like, Steve Logan couldn't make it. Oh, he made it? No, I'm talking about ours. When he came into Golden State, that was the only reason he didn't take my position, because he couldn't pass that conditioning test.

I don't know why not. Because he was... I don't know why not, because he was damn sure, because, listen, Jack... He couldn't. He couldn't. Listen, man sure because, listen, Jack. He couldn't. Listen. Because one, you're trying to keep up.

Conditioning in college was great. But think about it. Like, you know, there's a, you know, like, usually the best thing to do, like, with Jay Rich. Like, there's a Trojan horse. So I was really the Trojan horse for the guards. And, you know, I'm out there running a little extra. A little extra fast. Like, I ain't, I ain't trying to, I don't want you to just keep up with me, goddammit. I want to try to make it a little bit faster for you.

Because, you know, he was killing me. He was killing me before. He was mollywhopping me. I might be going, ah! I had a teammate who could run the mile real fast. And then sprints, it was like nothing. It was like the craziest thing I've ever seen. So me and her were like the best players on the team at Duke.

Her name was Becca. And the way she ran around that track was ridiculous. And then we get to the sprints. Oh, she couldn't stop and go. Yeah, it was so crazy. So we're like, all right, Becca, you got the mile, girl. You go do that, and then I'll handle the sprints. But the way she went around that mile, it was crazy.

Like, it's 535 mile. Like, no, no thanks. Yo, that's, yo, you wouldn't have, trust me. First. No, no, no, it wasn't, no, you. First. This man was making you run around the football stadium steps, dog.

I did that for fun. Around and, no. Yo, you're a psychopath. No, no, no, you know, there's no, so was he putting a number on it? If you ask, yeah. Stadium steps dog. I did that for fun around and There's no so what was he putting a number on it if you ask yeah, so so how many times would you have to do it? Which one? Surrounding football stadium. So I don't I didn't know what I'm saying is I did that for just regular condition because you know I had that we had the jump soles back there. So I you know the football shit around All the stairs back down. I'll try to get boosties around and back. The strip shoes or what? The strip shoes. All the stairs back down. I was trying to get boosties. Around and back is one.

Around the football field? Stadium steps. Yeah. No, no, you didn't hear what I said. Not one, two, three, four. No. Around and back is one. How many are we doing?

One? Cigar runs. That don't sound fun, Kenny. That's what I'm telling you. What is a cigar? What does that mean? What don't sound funny. That's what I'm telling No, that's what I'm saying, what does it sound like what I'm saying is punishing me not for the cigar run, right? You run while I smoke this stogie. Oh You run while I smoke this stogie Punishment was only give me run, because I...

Okay. Like, make your ass transfer. Like, that's what they're saying. Punishment was not letting me run. Will make you transfer. Hit it harder, Coach. That would have been punishment, Gil. I want to know what condition it's like now.

You're out there, motherfucker. Gil. I'm trying to... You're a California kid out there in the snow. It rains. It didn't matter. Bet you missed enough class. He going to have your ass right out there. That's what I'm saying. That was my thing running was my thing like so like the arena, right? I used to do like that. We go all the way to the top I did this this was me when I went to Washington the top you can ask anybody

I run the top speed it nine minutes around and then I come down and play right a week of that They were like, yo, what are you doing? I'm getting in shape. And then it was like, all right, we'll start doing it. So I had the whole team doing it. I just did it for fun. So that was for fun. You put a number on it. That's what I'm saying. You knew I was going to run this, and now how many times?

It's fast. So that's what I mean. I would have been first. And you would have been out there by yourself. No, no, it wasn't those firsts. I know, you all would have been out there by yourself because I would have been sitting there with the cigar. No. Coach, get that. You don't know. Y'all would have been out by yourself because I would have been sitting there with the cigar. No. Coach, get that.

You're lazy, coach. Can you get your ass up and down while he finishes the cigar? I want to talk to Senator Alex. Tell him about the gunlight, boss.

Never had. He never did that. Nah. I witnessed that shit one time. Nah. I'm not going out there and do that. I'm going to take my ass to class.

All right, well, let's talk a little bit about the Suns and your favorite team, the Milwaukee Bucks. Bucks were shorthanded against the Suns. Cigar run. Just imagine. Make it a blunt run. A little bit quicker. You know, you just...

Them motherfuckers can last 45 minutes, 50 minutes. It depends on... Wait, did he actually smoke a cigar? Yeah Absolutely. So here we go. Gil Gil cabin acidity made As a college college you guys any immediate don't be MJ Like punish punishing me is not allowing me to play in the game Like I'll take like, you know, whatever I'm doing if you're gonna give me a punishment sit on the wall for our I'm a smile through that You say argue you coming off the bench today all nigga

Gonna go to Me there I'll be there Sorry coach doesn't said I you know, my dad was a football player, right? So, you know, most of my drills was that shit, torture, right? Staying in front of my new car, I'm going to throw the football, and if I get a dent, you're going to ass-whooping. Like, that was... Damn. That was my growing up.

Right? Put my right hand behind my back, right? Dribble with your left for an hour. And then if I try to steal it and steal it, it's like I had shit like that. That's why you do that shit to your kids. Paybacks. Paybacks, bitch. It's your turn. 5,000 shots till your hands start bleeding.

Generational trauma. Yeah. Okay. Child services on line one. Hell yeah. Go get that motherfucker today. Ain't no statute of limitations. It was abuse. services online one hell yeah you go get that motherfucker today so talk a little about the the sons in the Bucks Bucks were shorthanded against the sons of Phoenix Tuesday night before the trade deadline KD and Giannis traded posters

so let's take a look at KD catching on and slipping Catching Giannis slipping. Oh. Cox it back. Ricky. Oh, my God. Look at this in slow motion. You not feeling it? No, I'm just watching in real time. It's nice, but it's not a body though. That's not a body. Is it a body on Bobo? Giannis gets in.

It's not a body. A few plays later, Giannis. In the vicinity. Meets Bobo upstairs. That's not a body. He was a little later. Man, them ain't bodies. Them, that's some great plays.

That's not, them ain't bodies. Let her have something. Let her have something. Let her have something. Let her have something. Let her have something. Let her have That's not a body. He was a little late. Man, them ain't bodies. That's some great plays. That's not. Them ain't bodies.

Let us have something. No, no. It's not. No, great plays. But no. I was watching the game. We was watching the game real time. I was like, oh, shit. KD.

So Suns big three combined for 85 points. D-Book 32. KD at 28. Bradley Bill came in with 25. But most importantly, each player took 20-plus shots in the game. Obviously, postseason is around the corner, but do the Suns look like they're in playoff form right now when their big three is all in the game together, locked in like this?

No, I mean, it looks like, you know, whatever they establish is there. From there, it's just timing and stuff. But you can see They are taking turns Whooping people asses, right? So yeah, you can't hide nobody out there You know the fact that you know, you do have Bradley bill or Booker at the one or two at this point You can't tell so if you have a little guard There's no hiding them because both them boys is going straight to the post. Maybe sending like oh, yeah I got paint pains over here and you over here. Ah, ah, ah.

And, you know, both of them, they're so skilled that that's going to be a hard matchup, you know, with that little guard. So we should point out, too, that the Bucks didn't have Dame.

They had a Lopez, but it wasn't Brooke. It was his brother. And Chris Middleton. Dame would have been right in the post. Come on over here, young fella. Ah, ah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And for the life of me, I just don't understand why they keep running pick and rolls with Nurkacin for the fucking life of me. They jumping it. Like, if he in it, they would just... Dude. He keep running up there and they keep, show ass out of here, man. We got mouse right here. He was so used to it. He was so used to running up there for they keep show ass out of here man we got mouse right here he was so you he's so you so used to running up there for the pick and roll

I'm like no man or if you go on a pick and roll just running with Katie said Nick that Chris was that Chris Chris Paul he was so you just Chris Paul has that get your ass out just just run this if you don't run any pick and roll one of them three gonna going to set it. It's a mismatch every time. What are you going to do? Are you going to trap it? Okay, we're going to throw this.

Oh, and that's hell when that swing swing is Bradley Beal or Kevin Durant. Yeah. That late one, I was like, oh, yeah, that's. What do you do? What are you going to do? Yeah. Swing swing is a star, and then four swing greasing shoot 50 from three like it was it was one and i and this is like it i mean there's no knock the doc because obviously he's below the thought process of this anyway you know what i mean just just a great defensive coach Coach, you don't run off of Bradley, Beal, or Booker to double KD.

Ever. What? On the catch, boom, run off. And no particular point. Shot. You're running off of another all-star Hall of Famer to come double. You guys are idiots. What do you think?

Any team's best defense is to limit one of them's shot attempts? They're taking turns each quarter. Yeah. Remember we were talking about how they all look like they're playing three different games. They all look like they're playing the same game now. They're flowing. I think adding

Grayson to that starting lineup just made the space seem crazy. How would you stop it on the defensive side? You can't. Just take your own, keep it pushing? You got to have guys that's going to try. You're still going to get torched, but... You can't let them all get up to 20-plus shots.

No, you know what? It's smart here, too, because this is a group that is not playing to the rest of the NBA standard NBA standard right they're not sitting there shooting a whole bunch of threes these are all mid-range guys right so when you're doubling off of if you're doubling off a bill to come to KD when Katie is passing the ball to bill he's not catching and shooting what he's doing as soon as that ball is coming he's already in the move so you want to close out he's running right by you.

They're all playing how, you remember Dane? Right, when Dane's in the corner and they're passing, he's already catching on the move. That's exactly what Bill and Booker's doing. They made five threes last night, the three of them. All together, just five. They're not sitting there chucking bullshit out there. They're like,

alright, I know you're going to run out to the three, so while you're running out to the three, I'm just going to be on the move on the catch. So they're all moving. Yeah. We talked about the Clippers yesterday. Clippers now number one seed in the West. So you're going to pretend Doc ain't losing another game.

Okay. We have more things to talk about. The only thing I'm going to give him his credit is it was all role games. So I'm not saying that is a thing. They're still a good team, but still. We have two topics. I don't care. I heard you know one of those role games is important, right?

I know. One of those role games is important. I'm just trying to... I know, I know, I know. We trying to make... We're trying to do well, but... We're trying to make... Who trying to help?

Who? I'm trying to help. Everyone but you. I'm just trying to help. No, I'm just saying... Listen. Facts all that. Listen, the only thing that's changed with him there is the offense is worse than it was before.

That's the only thing that's changed. Whatever they was giving up before, they still giving up now. Right? Only thing that's changed is they were scoring good before you got there. Now they're not. So, Gil, you want to talk about Doc? Let's talk about Doc. Bucks are now 1-4.

Oh. In the Doc Rivers era. But like I said before, Oh, my, my, my. Didn't have Dame. You don't say. Didn't have Brooke Lopez. Middleton left the game early after landing on KD's foot.

Got an interesting stat for you, Gil, because I know how much you love stats. Let's run it. So, tonight was Bucks' first loss on a Tuesday. In over a thousand days, they had won 26 straight games on a Tuesday. Damn. Club going up. That is actually crazy.

Last Sunday loss on a Tuesday was April 26, 2021 against the Warriors, but Giannis didn't play. Damn, Doc. They just fucking up streaks and shit out here. Man, you just add that to your resume? And I'm not fucking up streets Tuesday I heard God damn it They just can't get right. God. That's an insane streak.

That just can't get right. And as soon as I get here, it's just all kind of shit. So Bucks are stuck with Doc for at least another couple years. They can't make another move right now. They can't. You can't? No, you can't. He done did it twice.

They don't run after them money. They did it twice already. They did. You know the funny part? If they fire him right now, there won't be no uproar. There's not. I'm just saying, if he got fired right now, there would not be a whole bunch of media that was like, this is wrong.

Everybody be like, man, just get another coach. They got to go get- Mark Jackson. Run the gauntlet. As a coach, this is... Like I said, there was no win-win for him. I mean, the money is the win-win because you got $40 million out of it.

Wow. Right? But as a coach itself, there was no win here for you. This was a horrible situation because you're coming in, they're 30 and 13. You lose, we laugh. You win, eh, they was winning before you got there. So you're not going to get credit for the win, you're only going to get credit for the loses if we get to sit here

and laugh at you, even if you go on the eight game winning streak. It's like, eh, you're the Bucks. You should be winning. You should be winning. You should be winning. So it was one of those things where I personally, if I were him, I would have set myself up where I got the team after the season. Because, you know, you're not going to judge.

You're going to just, like, that's something. This is all negative. There's no positive here. But do you think Giannis would have let that ride? I mean, we got to say Giannis has some hand. Fuck his feelings. But you say fuck Giannis' feelings, you losing Giannis and Thanasis. Where's Giannis going?

He just signed, right? Get me out of here. Where's he going? He's just going to be mad for a couple. Was he not going to play? He's not going to play. He's not going to try to win. I mean, you know, so.

He's player empowerment moving. If you don't like me and you go out there and you've got 30 and 16, cool. Just keep thinking of me, god damn it. Yannis Anthanasis. I don't understand. I understand organizations sometimes. I know player empowerment is a real thing, but it isn't. He just signed a contract.

You know you can't trade. I don't give a fuck what he says today. What is he going to go? Go out there and not play? That's his legacy, not mine. I own this forever. As soon as you leave, there's going to be another one of you at some point in time. So if the betterment is to keep him in until the end of the season, that's what I'm going to do.

You bitching and moaning for another three months has no... I deal with it in the summer. Oh, hey, I'm sorry, big fella. We couldn't do nothing. Got you, Doc. And then, you know, start training camp and put in the sets you need. You did it last summer.

You signed, so this is what you're getting, brother. But let's talk a little bit about Doc's offspring. So LeBron has been very outspoken about sticking around in the league long enough to get the chance to play with Bronny. But Austin Rivers doesn't think two LeBron has been very outspoken about sticking around in the league long enough to get the chance to play with Bronny. But Austin Rivers doesn't think two LeBrons on the same team is a good idea. Him going and playing with his dad, at this point in his career, just because Bronny's success isn't at a top-tier level,

him getting drafted and playing with his dad, it just, I don't want that negativity to come his way because he doesn't deserve it. He's not a top 10 pick. He's not a lottery pick. He's none of those things. I was all those things. And then still, when I went to go play for the Clippers, people were like, oh, you're only in the league

because you're not, after me being the number one player in the United States two years prior. This is a whole different situation, and at a different level because, yeah, Doc's great. LeBron James is the most popular basketball player to ever play other than who? Maybe Michael Jordan? Right.

This is, it just would be a lot, man. Right. You know what I mean? And I just, I hope for the kid that he's able to not only play in the NBA, but play somewhere where he can kind of niche out his own identity. His name's already Bronny. You know what I mean? Everything that we talk about with him, it always kind of folds back to his dad, rightfully so. He plays for USC and his dad plays down the street for the Lakers it's just an

insane situation and the way he's handled it I'm a fan of Bronny I really am but I hope it goes somewhere else I really do what was this shot in is this shot off iPhone what what what pixel is this yeah as you know your Wi-Fi is janky no what pixel is it come on. We see we look good right here What would be here use that that's internally? Android God damn who TV that came off you're flooding the rain's been bad. We're doing the best Steve you send that in See you sit there with that P and a 40

Don't judge the video by its quality, but by the content of its character, Gil. I'm just one, I'm like, man, I kinda look like 2007. You were listening, did you listen? Listen. Alright. They can't see it at home anyway. We gotta cut to the wide, so they don't know what the fuck going on. But Austin played for his pops when he was with the Clippers,

took a lot of heat from the media and his own teammates, as we all may recall. But Austin Rivers saying, Bronny needs a place somewhere where he can niche out his own identity. Facts or cap? Facts. Facts. Facts. Facts. Facts. I think there are a lot of unrealistic expectations on Bronny, but we were all expecting that.

You're LeBron James' son. But, yeah, I don't think he's stepped into who he is yet, and I think he's starting to at USC, but it's, like, constant, like, posting his stats. When he has a good game, it's like, okay, yeah, but if he has a bad game, it's, like, everywhere, but I don't even think he's had a good or bad game because he's still just a freshman, and he's figuring it out, but I think Austin Rivers articulated his point extremely well, and he knows from experience what it's like to be in the league with your dad very

close by, and it wasn't easy for him. And like you said, number one player in high school went to Duke, had a great season at Duke. So I feel like if anybody has a space to speak on something like that, it's Austin Rivers. Speaker 1.: Okay, you said fact as well, right? Speaker 2.: To him. Speaker 1.: Well, I mean, he's been there. He's done it, right, you know, it is a competitive league, right? So You know with Austin right? He gets no credit for his game If you get in the game cuz your daddy right you on his team cuz your daddy, right?

You get a contract is cuz your daddy right? That's That's what it sounds like. So something like Bronny, right? His two points have to be at 10 points, right? He will have to get credit from his teammates, right? On the team, he will have to be LeBron James himself, right? Anything less than that, they're going to say you're only here because you're dad. That is going to be the're only here because of your dad. That is going to be the thing with him.

Right? So what Austin said, I didn't see no backlash that should happen because it is a real thing. Right? Luke Walton was getting claimed, you only in the NBA because of your daddy. And Luke could hope for that. No, no. You're only in here because of your daddy. Like, he got it, and his daddy was just

a TV announcer. So, you know, when you're talking about being a kid of someone that played before you, you have to be extra special. You have to carve out your own path.

So, Kenya, Austin Rivers saying Bronny needs to play somewhere where he can niche out his own identity. Facts or cap? I agree with him. I agree with the couch, man.

It's facts. Yeah, you just don't want that pressure for him. Just too much as is. Now, it was that in high school. Then at the highest level, it's only going to intensify, especially in a city like this. Media coverage, you're a city like this. Media coverage, on TV every night. And like Gil said, he would have to be LeBron James point two. He would have

to be same, it would have to be him. And it would be unfair for him to have that kind of pressure on him in your first year, man're going somewhere and people might have the thing to say like he only got drafted because LeBron is a that even if he goes somewhere else but might only have the people still might have that to say and damn what he doing on the floor so yeah I agree with Austin Rivers on this one, man. It's definitely- Listen, if LeBron does what LeBron does and he still get flacked on his game- Yeah. I think about it.

They're questioning LeBron's game itself. What are they going to do to his, you know, Bron? Bronny goes by Bronny for a reason, goddammit. They're going to do that anyway, though. I know, but that's what I'm saying. If LeBron James, if this is how they talk about LeBron James himself with his resume, Bronny doesn't have a chance. Yeah, that's why my son don't go by Kenyon.

That's why he don't go by Kenyon. Like, it's the same shit. And I ain't, our fame level ain't nowhere near the same spectrum So it's My dad born and raised in Jacksonville I believe he's not even up there with LeBron either But the things that have been said to my brother during games, to my parents in the stands during games, it's like, it's ridiculous.

And my brother is very talented, by the way. Let me add that. He had 30 points the other night. OK. Ooh. He's the best one in the family right now? No. Ooh.

Still me. No. But he's close. He's getting there. He's getting there. Yeah. So when it comes to Bronny needing to play somewhere out of LeBron shadow the couch agrees

facts So I'd ask you this question Can you if you were still in the league would you want to play with KJ on the same team? And do you think KJ would want to play with you? No He no He just like me Don't to him He just like you don't like now you want to be like, no, he want to be his own man.

Like, he want to be his own, have his own identity, want to create his own path, his own niche. So, yeah, no, it's, only thing we, yeah, it's just last names, bro. I can see it from both sides. Obviously, you know, LeBron wants to play with Bronny, but if I'm Bronny and I got my dad always around, like, nigga, move away. Nah, he, nah, young fella's his own, he's his own he's his own but that's my point he got his own bodyguard he's trying to he's trying to get some motion he on the road without i feel like

don't get it twisted that's what i'm saying don't get it twisted brony got his own bodyguards he got his own establishment he's trying to go out and get it cracking on the road now we're in the lobby we're at the team building you push your vegetables to the side. No, nigga, eat your vegetables. Like, man, man. I mean, as a fan, though, that would be something really cool. I mean, as a parent. Yeah. That's like the one of the boys.

That's something that you can check off of a list because it's never happened before. Absolutely. So for just something that's never happened before. So for just something that's never happened before, I see the attraction with it. It's more of a selfishness of father son playing on the same team.

With baseball on it? Yeah, but the dynamic of... Yeah, the Griffies, I think homers and back-to-back at-bats, but obviously even at practice or whatever, Lebron throws Bronny a bad pass, now he got to cut his dad out. I'm just saying it's not even about, they're not even looking at the play part of it. They're just looking at the history part of it, and that's something you're going to have to take in consideration.

Do you want the history, or do you want what comes after you do what you're going to do? Because what comes after, young what you're going to do, because what comes after, young fella won't be ready for. Yeah. Because I mean, every time he steps in a game, you're going to have everyone he got in front of like, look at this. Yeah. But I think about if he went to the Clippers with the statement that I was already

saying, hey, he can play right now for the Clippers. You don't think they feel some type of way, just even the thought of it. You talking about a college kid that can get more raw. He come here and bust his ass, right? That's plays. He has to take one of our jobs, so that's not going. So, Gil, you said that Bronny has a Bugatti engine, but he needs to figure out how to use it.

Bronny saw some flashes in his freshman year at USC, which was obviously delayed by the cardiac arrest that he had suffered in the summer, delayed the start of his freshman year, but now he's come back, he's been playing, playing solid. You know, he's had some ups, had some downs. But realistically, if you had to put a timeline on how far away Ronnie is from actually being good enough to be in the league, what would you say? You don't, to be honest, man, you don't know, right? You know, you can look at some players who came off the bench in college, averaged seven points in college, and they lottery picks, right?

And then they became stars, and, you know, it's just who you are. Some games, some, you know, the college game is team stuff, right? Team defense, more of zones and all of that stuff. NBA is about your individual talent itself. So if your Brigatti engine is better than this S600, you have the advantage over these players, right? So, you know, if he decides to come out, it all depends on how he's faring up

against everybody else in those drills. If they're like, ah, we need one more year Then it'll be one more year in college and and then go after that So there's it's hard for me to say because I'm looking at your stats because your stats really don't matter once You know everybody gets into the same field like he averages 30 y'all match up and you busting his ass that I mean There's some criticism about Ronnie even playing in the McDonald's game. Some felt like he wasn't worthy, but he went out there and did his thing. So he's shown when he can play

against high-level elite talent that he can hold his own. That's all it is. When they say, all right, jump ball, let's go. It's all about who has the biggest heart at that point. How far away do you think Bronny is from actually being league ready?

I don't know, man. People had a full season and started and was able to really adapt to the college game right away and not have this delay. I had a little more to go on. I saw him play in high school a few times, of course, going over there watching him play. Like what I saw early and throughout high school a few times of course going over there watching them play like what I saw early and throughout high school so talent got better each year so the progression is there yeah no it's just it ain't for me to say man cuz this

people is the people that's in these positions to draft these people and go back to these GMs and what these GMs see and think about is beyond my thought process. Right? Because we think we, like, oh, this could be good. And we're like, no, he don't do that well, and he don't do this. So it's just a matter of having the right report come back. Because I'm pretty sure he's going to test the waters this year. And definitely going to test the waters and see what people are saying then.

But, nah, it ain't for me to say, man. It really ain't for me to say. Like UCLA, right? You have Peyton Watson and you have Johnny Jusain, right? Johnny Jusain, the best player you at UCLA, right? You have Peyton Watson and you have Johnny Jusain, right? Johnny Jusain, the best player on the team, right? Did everything he did. Peyton Watson averages three coming off the bench. Peyton Watson, first round pick. Yep. Johnny Jusain didn't get drafted, right? Yeah. Peyton left after his freshman year. Jusain, I think, was fourth or fifth year at that point. You know what I mean? You don't know

once you test those waters, you start testing, you're like, they might think you something else and then they start testing you and you're like, oh shit. Potential, his potential. His potential's here. So let's talk a little bit about Steven Jackson, a friend of the program.

Wasn't feeling Austin Rivers' comments on Bronny. Ooh. Reportedly gave this response to sideline sources. Mm-mm. So he said, and your daddy not LeBron, shut up. Difference is you trash, Bronny not. You can't compare to him scrub.

Did he say this with his words or he typed this? This was a report that came out on sideline sources. Not sure if it was text or phone call. Wait, wait, wait. What I'm saying. No, no. When he reacted to the Austin. That was him reacting to Austin Rivers' comments on Bronny.

I'll repeat it again. And your daddy not LeBron. Shut up. Differences, you trash. Bronny not. You can't compare to him scrub for those who may have forgotten Austin Rivers was Nate Smith a basketball player of the year in his class had one of the greatest mixtapes in life's history

watching him play at Winter Park yes yeah went to do we can just see it I'm Yeah. Went to Duke. Sounded like a personal attack. We can just see it. I'm going to just say, if Austin Rivers was the number one player in the country, went to Duke, did that, and he says with his resume that it was hard, that playing with your daddy or for your daddy is very hard at the next level that's all i need to hear right that's it he didn't take a single shot and it wasn't the next year neither huh and it wasn't his first year no no that's what i'm saying this is you know he was already nba player established when he got to the book is that correct so i'm pointing

out that doc rivers is not lebron i just said i know so if you're that Doc Rivers is not LeBron? I'm just saying. I know. So if Doc Rivers is not LeBron. Right, and it was bad for Austin. And this is what players are saying. That was the only accurate statement that was made. Yeah. That your daddy's not LeBron. I don't mind shut up too. I'm just saying it would be, I mean, what Austin said was correct.

I mean, there's, you know, it will be hard. And he's saying that I will, for me who's been through it, I want to see him go somewhere else and develop his own Identity, you know, we even said the same thing about and also rivers did develop his own identity And then came here came in and then it all blew up This gotta be hard a hood before your daddy got to pay boy So me everything 17 off the bench, yeah, the only reason get off the bitch cuz your daddy It's a cold game

Yeah, well I was what's the need to comment on like if you really listen to what the dude said and You break it put it in context it's a 100% act like like you said he articulated it better than anybody could could have like this yeah cuz I live this already like at a lower smaller scale yeah without all the social media attention that is on us now and without all those things. I did this. Getting shit from my teammates. And we know the locker room he was in, whole lot harsher than the locker room Bronny go be in if his fucking daddy's sitting right there. Yeah. Because Doc ain't sitting in the locker room daily. He ain't sitting in the back of the bus.

He ain't by the card table. He not in these places, in the ballroom with us playing cards. He ain't somebody's room playing cards. He not in them, in these conversations, if your son in there, or if he try to,

what people are saying about him, and saying behind his back, and to his face. Soon as he say, hey, Austin, get in. Soon as he get up, this ass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at him, red ass. Let's see if he take his ass out on his turnover, like he took me out.

Like that is not, you don't want to be in that situation. And this man been there. So who are we to comment on it who is anybody to fucking comment on it like this man lived it so he gave his honest assessment on I live this I don't want this for this kid because he's still a kid at this point I I'm with him. For sure. Let's talk about big LeBron, but more importantly, these Lakers. NBA trade deadline is less than 24 hours away.

It means the Lakers are on the clock to make a move to strengthen the roster. So when asked if this Lakers roster is good enough to win a chip or if changes need to be made, LeBron offered this response. Uh-oh. It's not a question for me. I love what we have in the locker room. That's all I worry about. We can't stand y'all. So I don't get caught up in that.

We're going to go out and prepare ourselves every single night, no matter what it is, no matter who's on the scene, no matter what. It's my job as an AD job to make sure we keep the main thing amazing and the main focus is now Thursday's game at home, and we look forward to that matchup. Gil, how do you feel about the video quality? It's better. Okay.

We jumped on your other Wi-Fi, your super secret one. Got that one going. It's personal. A personal one? Gil's personal. With the new CBA making offseason moves more difficult, D'Angelo Russell has been the subject of endless trade rumors. D'Lo's been balling recently, though.

In his last 13 games, he's averaged a 24, close to seven assists, three rebounds. Is D'Lo safe or still trade bait? Okay the problem is everybody that they keep saying they want here is like no. Right? Everybody that's coming here is some like scoring defensive guy like we got a whole but we got a whole team bench for those guys right, so it's Like if you're gonna trade, you know D load trade them for exactly what we've been seeing lately 27 24 7 and 3 trade us for somebody like that. Do not trade us for a guy Who is gonna be just a great teammate. We have a whole uniform full of them AC Green types.

We don't need no more of them. We don't need no more. Give me some James Wordy. I don't need no Kurt Rambis type players. No more in here. All right? James wordy. I don't need no Kurt Rambis type players no more in here Alright, you know give me somebody we can use when I say hey sub in he's gonna change Something right five minutes. He might have three shots three rebounds a block in the steel. Yes I don't need 22 minutes one one and five and the five is five five You do shit but put us in the penalty 1-1 and 5. And the 5 is 5. 5. 5.

You didn't do shit, but put us in the penalty. Lakers coming off an extended road trip. They were 4-2 during that road trip. D'Lo been balling. I think a lot of Lakers fans' hesitation, though, they feel like he does this in spurts and then kind of will disappear at times. But, Kenyon, looking at this squad, are you rolling with D'Lo still on there or would you try to make a move if you were the Lakers? No, I solidify his role as our sixth man.

If you make a move, I keep him. Oh, keep him. Keep him because he needs scoring. Keep him. But I'll solidify his role in that regard. You think bring him off the bench. Yeah, just this is what I need from you night in, night out. Because once it's started, there's too much pressure on him, I think.

And that's why the up and down, ebbs and flows is magnified, right? Yeah. If he coming off the bench and he not going, then we know what it is that day. I feel like they tried that at points this season and haven't necessarily got the result. But then in the starting line up then he ain't. Then in the starting line up then he ain't. Then in the starting line up then he ain't.

Like no. You are our sixth man. You are our fucking Jordan Poole. Because coming off the bench and being the sixth man are very different. You're the sixth man. You're damn near a starter at this point. If he's coming off the bench, you're out there to play a role, but they need D'Lo to score, they need him to distribute.

But he also needs the ball in his hands a lot. Which is where when he's out there with Bron, sometimes he gets caught in this gray space because Bron also needs the ball in his hands a ton. But I don't... No, Bron is gonna have the ball. Gonna have the ball. The trade, I just...

I hate it for D'Lo because he's not the one that needs to go. Yeah, I think it's that, man. It's the fighting role. He's legit the third option, right? He's our legit third option as a Laker fan. You're getting rid of him if the person is not coming in as a third option score, then it's a bad trade. Because right now he's third, that means Austin Rivers is fourth. Austin Reeves?

I mean Austin Reeves is fourth. So whoever you bring in, if it puts Austin Reeves third, we got worse. You don't like that? We got worse because whoever we traded for has to be now four-fifth. So I think with Woods, they're finally playing Woods. He's playing well. Rui, Prince is now shooting the ball a lot more. Vando has figured out how to be effective offensively when he's out there.

I don't know if I make a trade because what trade is going to enhance me into that championship realm? There's only a certain few players, and they're not moving too many of them right now. Are you going to give me, you know, if you're going to give me Bane, you're going to give me Bane for D'Lo? I'll take someone who's been, you know,

aggressively, offensively the whole season. I'll take that. Other than that, I don't know. The DeJounte Murray thing has kind of been brewing for a while now. Do you think DeJounte would be a good addition to that Lakers squad? Don't know if the Hawks would actually make that move. But what does it solve? What I'm saying is, what does it solve for us?

You get rid of 20-some points to get back 20-some points. Right? Got rid of a bottle of water for a bottle of water. Motherfucker, that ain't no upgrade. You give me two bottles for my one bottle. One for one doesn't change the whole dynamic of our team because we still have the rest of the team that plays the same way so yeah you know it is what it is i mean i'm i would be surprised if they they should have made a trade before yes right trying to make

a trade in the next 24 hours is like what's the boy that's rotting in detroit the score um shooter in detroit bugged on yeah a lot of people on him like somebody like you know yeah bring it him you know it's just a shooter but add him add him add him hey hey get that Kevin Porter kid. Mm-hmm Oh, he definitely fucking aggressive go get him like what the fuck are we I just thought about it. He's aggressive offensively Go get him like that. Like that's what I'm saying. Like somebody like him. You don't need to do nothing You just add an extra new piece that can score that's aggressive. He's going to get your bucket I mean if you want to kick in some hotel doors, you know

It won't come out. It won't come out with LeBron laser I'm always under dog fantasy does not it support the views Express or gills arena presented by underdog fantasy We'll who don't want there's one thing I know and two things for certain Who has ever gotten in trouble in the media with LeBron James on the team? Well, it's too late. He's been in the NBA 20 years. 20 years. You've never heard another teammate getting in trouble while he was on. Tristan Thompson, all that cheating he was doing never happened on LeBron James' watch. Y'all never y'all never

noticed that huh soon as he left boom tmz oh he's a hoe while he was on the team you never heard not saying they are none he was the same let's not compare those two situations i'm just saying what i'm saying is whatever whatever whatever happens outside of your personal life when LeBron James is on that team, you're never going to hear about it. So whatever he is, he will be safe. Okay, but we don't want... So he don't deserve to play again because he made a mistake, Lexi? No, he does deserve a chance, but...

Oh, I forgot. Oh, I forgot. Yeah, I got to remember. I understand, but I'm just saying. He made a mistake. Is that real? He made a mistake. Oh, I thought it was. He made a mistake. Is that real? You made a mistake? Oh, I thought it was.

You made a mistake. I think everyone deserves a second chance. Unless you retract it. It doesn't matter. Nobody really knows what went on, but the fact that that's out there. Yeah. Not a good look. It's not a good look.

It's not at all. Definitely. But yeah, I'm all for everyone deserving second chances if they show that they've truly changed. But obviously, we won't know any of that. But I cannot sit here as a woman and her knowing the victim of that situation and be like, I want him on the team. Like, no, I just can't do that.

So we asked Lakers fans, will D-Lo, or we asked the chat, will D-Lo be traded tomorrow? 38% said yes, 62% said no. So we talked about the current Lakers. Let's talk about a former Laker, former number two overall pick that they traded away. Lonzo Ball.

I was like, they didn't trade it here, but... At one point or another... Made me think for a second. At one point or another, you will get traded by the Lakers. If you can play. Had to play in the NBA game in over two years after undergoing a few knee surgeries. But Bulls coach

Billy Donovan reported a few weeks ago that Lonzo isn't experiencing pain in his knee anymore and can begin running again. That was supposed to be in January. So we got our first glimpse of Lonzo back in the gym. Getting some buckets up. Just nice to see. Just nice to see. Oh, just nice to see.

Alonzo doing his thing. Had to clap back at Stephen A. Smith this past summer. With the janky chair. Getting up to show that his knee wasn't as bad as was being reported. So Alonzo's obviously not not gonna play the rest of this season But there is some hope that he can get back on the court in the near future Gillen Canyon You both suffered major injuries during your career So what advice would you give Lonzo about the mental and physical aspects of returning from a major injury?

That's Kenyan he returned You were still there you still get me. I'm just saying he returned Shit You were still there. You were still getting the check. No, I'm just saying, he returned successfully. This damn boy. Shit. It seems like he's doing it, man. He's taking his time. He's not rushing the rehab process. No one knows the extent of the pain that he was in going through. The extent of you not feeling like yourself when you're trying to play, trying to work out.

No one knows that. So it's all individually, man. And putting the same time into it in your rehab that you do into your game. Like as much as he worked on fixing his shot, you got to put that same effort and same thought and same enthusiasm into the rehab process. Because if you don't, then you're gonna bullshit it. So, and that's what I had to learn that, like coming back too early, overcompensating, playing 56 games next season, playing two games. All right?

The first two games of the season. Knee swole up, microfraction. So learning that from the first one. The second one, I took my time, did it the right way, attacked the rehab like no other other and was able to play after because of that and it still play at a high level and have more years after that but yeah I just taking your time man with it and and like I said but having that same enthusiasm about the rehab process because Because it's not fun. It's mentally draining. It's monotonous.

It's the same day in, day out. You're like, I feel good. I want to go out. But you got to get out your own way. You got to get out your own head and just give it the time that you need. And I think he's doing that now. And I think he'll come out on the right side of this, man. I really do.

And I wish him nothing but the best with it, man. You're obviously in a different situation but knowing what you know now would you approach that situation differently when you had all those knee surgeries yeah knowing what I know now um yeah I would have did things a lot different um I took what the doctor said for truth and didn't look at reality. Now I know reality is very different from the shit that comes out their mouth, right? You know, just like in B, four to six weeks, right? You ain't even winning his knee yet. You haven't done one surgery.

You haven't cut nothing open. But you already have a timeline for him. Yeah, and that's two different timelines. so they have a clearer picture after the procedure but you know so but let's say you it is a four to six week timeline who's how do you know as a doctor right majority 90 of your your patients are regular people right these regular people yeah four to six weeks or walk normal, not to jump over a motherfucker. That's, you know what I mean? Jump over me doing this shimmy shit. And I weigh 280. Yeah, right? So your guideline has nothing to do with an athlete, but the public takes it.

We take it. You tell me four to six weeks. Hell yeah. When four to six weeks comes, we don't feel like we, we don't feel healthy, but we're going to mentally trick ourselves because that was the timeline, right? So, you know, whatever that timeline is as an athlete, whatever they give you, four to six, just double it naturally because you are not normal. Your body's not normal. What you're going to do after is not going to be normal. Do you know when we have meniscus tears and you know they say oh, let's see four to six weeks, right? Four to six weeks might be great for you because you know, you're not jumping You know, you're not you're not doing the things that a you know a male would do so we shouldn't have the same timeline

Right. So, you know, I think me knowing what I know now I wouldn't have listened to any of the timeline and I would have just naturally doubled or tripled it due to how I play the game. And you put people around that care about you right and have your best interests. The team doctor that I dealt with didn't have my best interests at heart whatsoever. When I was side the team and I still dealt with Steve Hess like shout best interest at heart whatsoever. Went outside the team and I still dealt with Steve Hess, shout out to Steve Hess, strength and conditioning dude who was in Denver with us. It was him and the doctor that I went to, their protocol, not the team. And no matter what I did, no matter what I... Nope. Nope. I want to play. Nope.

Come back, men's restraint. Nope. Nope. But to help me get out my own way, you need people like that. And because you've worked your ass off in the rehab process, they won't allow you to mess it up by starting to play too soon. And I think that's what he has around him now And that's why they told him to take the year off cuz pretty sure with him. He tried to play this year

Yeah, he would he definitely tried to play this year at some point and whenever it was he would have tried to play this year, you know after working out you get the Shit You go up there more fun one time and know that bitch you like oh shit, I'm ready Not at all think about that video right there that bitless. Okay, so look at it We have a video of him working out right that is normally how we are working out when we are making the decision I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. That speed. Can we see the video again, please?

Follow up. Real, in our own. It's my rhythm. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay, yeah, this feel good. Knock that down. By the killing tomorrow.

Back up. Knock that one down. Yeah, this shit feel good. He got a little extra wiggle. Yeah, yeah. Because you're fresh. You ain't did nothing. Nah, but little extra wiggle sometimes. Yeah, because you're fresh. You ain't did nothing. Nah, but look.

The jumper looks good, too. But see, no. The jumper looks good. Because I already had time to do it. And this speed, right? Then we're practicing. Look who you think he's practicing against, right? Someone that is not called Kyrie John Morant.

Yes. Darren Fox. That's. Yes. Darren Fox. That's Kyrie. Darren Fox. It ain't none of them. So when he get out there in real time and they get to moving, like, oh, ah, yeah.

Six months went down the window. His fucking teammate, White. Yeah. Shit. Go out there against him and play like, oh, you know, I ain't ready yet. What? Go out there,

be the first time in training, he can fly by you, you try to, you like, oh, yeah Maybe I need some and that's what does it happen? We think we're ready because we're we're in a controlled environment Right. We're in a controlled environment against players. We know then when you when you go against Opponents yeah, and they your teammates also know and they but they sit here doing things that your knee ain't ready for and in real time One little tweak you done worked out for you done did this for six months

one little tweak Your ass is back in surgery and you out another six seven months and he not and this Where he is right? He said not the whole season and where he where he where he's at in his progression He's not doing this five days a week six days a week he's still doing none weight-bearing shit he's still doing pool workouts he's like it's whoo trust yeah yeah like you got me i don't even want i don't even swim no more because of pool workout yeah yo it's it's that they done fuck the whole vision of what a pool is Just make you hate pools you be sitting in the pool doing workouts three hours cramping in the bottom They tell you tread against the water you tell me ain't coming to the pool with me. Nah, that's a work out

You start looking at that joint different Absolutely didn't go and they Say still scrapping them, putting him in the treadmill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing all that non-weight bearing shit now. He had like 75, 80% body weight right now. If that. 75 right now, like body weight. They're running, but running where?

On the court or on the underwater treadmill? Running nowhere. Alter G. Trust me, when he starts really running really running they don't have a video 3.5 okay, you're done for today It's like the 12th time. Put them on the street block. It looks good, though. So, Lexi, you missed some time last season with the health issue.

How difficult is it to be away from the game for an extended period of time? Yeah, it was really hard. And my issue was, I mean, same with Kay and Gil, is I kept trying to play through something when I knew something was wrong. And I probably delayed my recovery by doing that. So I think the best thing is to advocate for yourself and just not be worried about any of the pushback you get because you know your body better than anybody else. And that's something that I learned.

It wasn't an injury, but I have like a new understanding about like people who get injured and coming back and doing it at your own speed and pace. Like it's important because everyone's body is different. So like doctors don't know. And then even my surgeon and doctor, she was just like, you're doing things that like most of my patients will never do. And she's like, I don't know how you're back on the court. i don't know how you're back on the court i don't know how you're doing this like this was a while ago but yeah a lot of majority of their patients are not professional athletes or athletes period so when you take when they tell you things you got to take it to heart but then be like okay well she's talking about

getting back to like just existing yeah just living existing. Just living life like a normal person. Now we got to tap into, okay, well, I need to do this, this, this, this. Am I ready? No. Then I need to chill. So you talk about knowing your body, but I feel like sometimes as athletes, and Ken, you touched on this, you start to lie to yourself a little bit and think you can do stuff that you may not be able to do or start thinking about what your old self was able to do while you're dealing with

an injury. So how do you walk that balance of saying, like you're saying, like, ooh, I feel good right now. I think I can get back on the court, versus, like, no, I need to take a step back. I may feel like this today. Let me see where I'm at tomorrow, the next couple days. Yeah, it's a fight, and just having people around you.

Because we just... We're not normal. Gil said it before you like you know you play in the w and you high level athlete for your field we're not normal and the things that we put our body through it's not normal it's just not so when you are coming from injury and certain things, you feel like your normal self. Like, okay, I'm Superman. Right? But you have people around you to remind you, like, no, your real name is Clark. Right? Going back down to earth. reminds you like, no, your real name is Clark. Yeah, yeah.

Right? Going back down the earth. Yeah, you need people around you to talk you off the ledge because you're going to jump. Yep. 100% of the time. I don't lie. Yeah, absolutely.

You're going to jump. I'm ready. Every single time, man, you're going to test the waters. It's just what it is, who we are. That's how we got here. Like when we didn't feel like working out, we worked out. When someone was hurting, we played through it. We always went the extra to get to where we are. Now, because we got an injury, or we had surgery, we're like, shit, I'm going to push this bit.

But no, slow down, Speedy. You need people around you to help you out and positive people that know you. But you actually got to listen to them too, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all on you. To us, it's on you, but the people that know you. Yeah.

Them people. Like, not the people, not the homeboys and the people that work for the team and that's used to going out and partying and they just want to see you. Like, not them, but the people that actually care about your well-being.

Yes, because they will show up in the good times. The biggest challenge is because we've gotten to a certain level, right? We've gotten to the elite level, right? The last door of being an athlete. When we get injured, we have to go all the way back down to level one when our brain is at level 100. So when they're saying, all right, we're going to do four sets, 10 of these. Every day for the next month, after day three, we trying to do something else.

Knowing we trying to skip from here to 50. We don't want to do- Or they tell you four sets, I'm doing eight. Eight sets. Right, but just double it, right? You just going to, so what ends up happening is we mentally are trying to skip a whole bunch of levels because that's, you know, because we've, we're already here. So just whatever, like, okay, okay, oh, we're going to do these things. We're going to always try to triple and try to get

We're gonna try to move this process along and that that's our real problem Right when you tell us hey, we're not gonna run right we're gonna do like little light run We're gonna sit there and try to throw a little sprint in there just to see how I feel We're gonna keep testing everything they tell us to do and that what the problem really is. Goddamn. You know what they say, like, we're going to do some control scrimmaging, boom, boom, don't move too much. Soon as they leave, let's play some wands. That's the first thing we do, let's play some wands, see how my shit feel with some wands.

That's the old school slap boxing in the hood shit. Where do slap boxing always lead to? Boxing. A fucking real goddamn fight. You go pop, pop out somebody slap you too Like dude we just had fun Boxing really fun though Cuz we boys and we're limiting our thinking.

We don't want to slap each other in the face. Yeah. We don't always do this part. See who got the quickest hands. Yes. Let's take turns slapping the shit out of each other. Drop the ball and grab it. That usually happens when after all the reason we started slap boxing is because something

happened with the baseball. It was something competitive involved. Sounds like y'all's rock, paper, scissors. Yeah, basically. Yeah, it is. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, no, man. You can't fight with a slap box dance.

Two hands is faster. There you go. Third fight, yes. Yeah, no, man. It's that, yeah. We are trained to be our worst enemies when it comes to that. Like, as far as injury and combat, like, we are our worst enemies when it comes to that. Like, as far as injury and combat, like, we are our worst enemies at times.

So, like we pointed out earlier in the show, trade deadline is the eve of the trade deadline, but we do have a trade to announce now that we will get in more tomorrow on our special trade deadline show. So, Celtics have traded for a friend of the program, Xavier Tillman, in exchange for two second-round picks. So good. Yeah!

Oh, he's championship ready, boy! Give us them tickets, baby! Yeah! Come on the show as soon as you, as soon as they pop it, pooh! Put the earphones on, we'll be right there. What is Memphis doing? Huh? Getting ready for this lottery pick. Getting ready for this lottery pick.

Getting ready for this lottery pick. Yeah, right? Shit, what the hell you mean? Like damn. Hey, jive over that motherfucking Chili. As Josiah say here on Chili-guns Island. Chili-guns Island. Didn't they get rid of Adam too?

Didn't they get rid of Adam too? Got rid of Adam too. Got rid of Steven Adams. Shout out Woj, dropped the report. They got rid of Steven Adams. They got rid of Xavier Tillman. Yeah, they- Now this is when your team is like-

We started with Scratch. This is when your team is like, this is when you should have still had Kenny Lofton Jr. What's that? You remember the old school, the motherfucking throwing the laundry, they looking at the laundry basket, tossing that shit out. Yeah, they should have kept that. Yeah, Kenny Lofton Jr. I mean, yeah.

We looked like cousins. Yeah, they traded in the Philly G League joint. Yeah. Cooking. Cooking. You're getting them. I mean, you have to look at a player and say, even though we can't use him, this is a waste of his time.

Yeah, it is. Obviously, he's way better than these guys. There are some games we can probably use him. Under certain coaches. Yeah, under certain coaches. That's erratic, you know. Then look down the bench and be like. But didn't he have good games last season?

Hell yeah. He said a record. I was very confused when they. He can play. Didn't keep him there. I'm always a fan of big man who can hook. Bigger gentleman. It's just bad.

You just need a chance. Well, you get drafted to the bad team. Like, it's just sometimes. get you just need a chance. Well, you get drafted to the bad team. I just sometimes Let's talk about about the impact of winning and the issues that young players face We're helping that out Hornets coach Steve Clifford had comments about players who get numbers But don't impact winning and erase some eyebrows. Let's take a look Do you know many guys are on our league that can average 15 or 16 and they're no good their team never wins when they're out there and because they score 15 or 16 they stick around

for five or six years and then people say wow you know look he must screw everything up because everywhere he goes when he's on the floor they lose it happens all the time and that's why them learning at a young age that the coverage is the coverage. The set is the set. The after-timeout play is the after-timeout play. Knowing what a great shot is is everything in this league. You know, being able to play with both intensity and technique for 48 minutes is everything. So just got to point out that the Hornets are 10 and 39 this season

13th in the East. Pretty sure they wasn't expecting that. They reckon when they started the season. Wizards are coming. This is on the heels of what a few weeks ago LaMelo and the crew was laughing at Clifford after he got ejected. He said he didn't take it personal, but thoughts on Steve Clifford's comments? I think that was one of my coaches. I'm sure. I'm sure. That was one of my coaches.

They all look the same. You know. Coaches. You know, old white man. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was one of my coaches. I mean, I just think it's odd that he's blaming wins or losses to, like... He's with the Magic 07 to 2012. ...what he would describe as a...

No, wait. Magic's, right? 07 to 2012 as an assistant. Yeah, okay. You said someone who averages like 15, 16 would be like a role player right now, right? So chopping up wins to losses to that player doesn't really make sense.

Okay, so there is... Okay, so... Like, I get what he's saying, but for him to be like, it's the role player's fault for not winning, I don't know. Okay, so like Brunson, right? He knows how to win.

Right. He knows how to make plays to just win games. And then you have some guys who, right, I'm averaging 30, but it might be the first three quarters and i'm horrible when it when i don't make no plays when it's time to win right you know like some teams figure out how to win games when it counts detroit we was talking about detroit they found a great system on how to lose games right they haven't figured out how to win when it counts.

So, you know, I understand what he's saying, and it is a skill. Learning how to win is a skill. Making an extra play, you know. My man beats me to the court. It's not always scoring, though. No, no, just, yeah, making winning plays. You know, Kenyon goes to help, and I don't help him when he helps, right? That falls on you don't know how to win.

You don't know how to make that as your player. You don't know how to put your body in a line and take that charge, right? There is the game within the game on making those, that extra oomph. Yeah. We talked about this last week, Gil, too. You said the reduction in training camp and limiting guys' IQs, they really are this last week guilty. You said the the reduction in training camp and It's limited guys IQ. They really are not learning the game. That's just starts way before they get that That's me before For this training camp speak for way before fucking training can you name this man's fault, but I get to him later in a minute

Yeah, it starts way before that man like guys learning how to learning how to win. Winning is a learned behavior. Becoming a winner is a learned behavior. It's how you approach the game way before you become an NBA player. It's what your... Start at home. What your parents allow, what your high school coach allows, what your college coach allows, it's what people allow you to do and get away with and don't correct the behavior.

It's what it is. Like, you see that you're not, okay, at the youngest level, okay, if you don't do this and I stop you and correct you it's the same thing What is everything is a learned behavior? Mm-hmm, right? So when you get to this level It's magnified now Because you're on TV every day

Film people breaking it down. Got all these analytics involved when you're on the floor. And got 700 cameras in the gym to break each segment down where you're not. So everything is magnified. So yeah, everything is important. Each possession is important. Or like I've been saying, have pride in each possession. Supposed to make it cut this way, cut this way. You're supposed to stand like everything matters.

Details matter. So yeah, he is absolutely correct in that matter. But I look at his roster, right? There is a disconnect. They don't respect dudes. A lot of talent. Different coach, they're going to play harder, they're going to play different. Guarantee.

This is what, trust me. They're not laughing at a dude who they rock with if he get kicked out. Coach they rock with, they're not laughing when he's fighting with him. They not laughing as he's getting tossed out of the game. They mentally checked out on dude. They don't want to play for him. It's all them losses. Yeah, we are playing, but you got to look at who in that seat, dog. And now that you didn't went out and said this publicly, this didn't help you in your locker room, boss. He's isolating himself.

Yeah. Like, come on, man. Our star on our superstar on our team is a rock star. Mm-hmm. Y'all have no, and now you come out, there's no connection. Yeah, and yeah, you didn't do yourself no favors, Steve Clifford, for you. People don't understand when they say you don't rock with a coach and they be like, you're supposed to go out there and play. Oh, yeah, we playing Yeah, yeah, we playing but you know that ball on the ground Chances are I'm not diving on it. I got it. I got to hit this game winner right here

Yeah, you can do it Hey, you know you you can shoot that joint right it becomes one of those But in the sense of special young guys, this is this is what Lou this is why players loses the respect of coaches, right? A coach can't tell you what the pecking order is, right? The locker room establishes that on his own right you the coach can't tell you who's the alpha male who it is That does not happen. They do that themselves in the locker room and all that stuff, right? They know who should get in the game, when they should get in the game. Players themselves already have substitutions in there.

We have delusion at the end of the bench, right? There's going to be delusion where I should be playing like 20-something. You have that. But for the most part, top seven seven they have the rhythm they have their thing They have their timing they know what's going on, right? They know what rotations who should be playing who shouldn't be at a game at a certain time When you start when this doesn't make sense to them what you're doing That's when they're off you

When yeah, when yeah becomes like they stop respecting you when you're top seven. Like when D'Angelo, you taking him out of the line, you ain't playing him, you putting this guy in, everybody started looking at each other like, Why D'Angelo ain't in the fucking game? Why he ain't in the game right now, coach? Yeah. All right. And a lot of comments made from various players on that particular team you're talking

about. Yeah, no, but what I'm saying is, we're, like, are we not here trying to win? We, you know, players are sitting there like, yo, so, who's starting? You'd be sitting there like, ooh, shit, it's about to be bad. Go up in that shit on the board. You're like, oh, shit.

Oh, shit. You start looking at that. Where's D-Lo at? Like, oh, shit. I hope they didn't see this shit. And that's what ends up happening. You start, you don't even have to say nothing. We just start looking at it. Watching reaction when they come in. Like, to say Nothing we just watch your ass when they come in. Let you sit there watch the direction when you come in

Yeah Look at that boy Pleasure very cognizant of those type of things Yeah, the lineup changed and nobody knows, you're like, whoop. Or you come shooting around or something, this guy's shooting around, or you're watching the reaction. It's all of it, bro. Even when, like, let's say I usually get subbed out at the 12-minute mark, right?

As soon as, like, the first quarter, I get subbed out, second quarter, you know, Steve Blake come in, right? Now, at the two-minute mark, Steve Blake gonna start doing his little stretches, get his little warm-up in, right? Now, at the two-minute mark, Steve Blake gonna start doing his little stretches, get his little warm-up in, right? And then let Coach be like, all right, Gil, start the second quarter.

Watch his face. Yeah. What the fuck going on? What the fuck going on? It just trickles down. Yeah, it just trickles down, right? Because his lack of minutes will affect the next dude's lack of minutes.

Now everyone's like, now everybody is annoyed. Everybody's mad. And it's like, yeah, we're going to rock with dude. Let's go ahead and get dude up out of here. So we know the fan or media perception of coaches, but at any given point, how many good head coaches are there in the league? Because every team is not going to get the highest quality, right?

So from 1 to 30, you got got the top and then you got the 30 Things for different teams like we was talking about yesterday like with the Clippers you need like a ego manager But the Cavs you need a more strategic and scheming coach like so it's hard to quantify Who's a good coach at a bad coach because there's so many different types of team is it dependent on situation like? Somebody you may not think is a good coach. I think a bad coach and a bad coach because there's so many different types of teams. Is it dependent on situation? Like somebody you may not think is a good coach. I think a bad coach is a bad coach. You can identify bad coaches for sure. Oh, yeah.

Okay, so like what is his name? Jeff, no, Stan Van Gundy, right? Everybody know I don't like him, right? We are aware, Gil. He's a horrible people person. Now, if you tell me if I have a team and I have, let's say, the Charlotte. Charlotte. Hornets. Detroit Pistons.

This Charlotte Hornets team right now. I'll say, me, as the president or whatever, the owner or whatever, I'm hiring him. Yes. Right? Absolutely. I don't like him personally because when I got to him, I was a veteran and all that shit you're doing is young dude shit. If you had me as a young dude, perfect coach. He is a foundational type of coach.

A coach that comes in, lays law, show these players what a professional is, how to work, how to get better, how to retain information. I know three years, by the third year, they're going to be ready to have a different coach. Now, when a different coach comes or when they're ready, out, somebody else in. Every time I'm rebuilding, Stan, bring your ass back. Handle them, right? So I'm not judging him on what the record is. I know in three years, they're going know in three years they're going to be ready

and they're going to be professional type of players. You have those coaches. Then you have coaches like Doc, right? You have coaches like D'Antoni. You give him a team, he can get you 63 wins, 64 wins, boom, right? And we're going to win the championship? Probably not. Are we going to win defensive play or not?

Probably not. Are we going to be exciting? Hell yeah. So it depends on what you're looking for as an organization. So I'm going to be judging the coaches off of what I'm expecting. Am I expecting to be up 3-1 and lose? If you are, Doc is your man. He can never fail you.

He can never fail you if you know y'all ain't never going to win a championship. So he should never be fired. What the fuck? I feel like teams would probably have the expectation that they would want to win the championship. They wouldn't go in like, we got him, we know we're not going to win. But you're lying to yourself. And that's why I said different coaches, like I'm not like, if I'm hiring Doc to win a championship, then I'm delusional in my damn self. Right?

My team has to be already set. I need to have certain type of players that over exceeds him. Right? I got to have over exceeders. Like, you know, you have a Kevin Garnett. So whatever you're saying, this is what we're going to do. I got to have those type of personalities on my team to expect him to win. Other than that, if I'm hiring, I'm hiring him for a certain reason.

Okay. Interesting. Fair assessment? Yeah, yeah. I agree. I'm sure you guys have all had great coaches. And then you've had great coaches. Points in your career. Oh, points in. Okay, I'm you know, I Frank

Frank any I think Lawrence Frank was and he was a substitute right? Yeah. Yeah, see like see that's but that's what Adrian Griffin Kind of like the irritates me daddy left because like somebody like Lawrence Frank, right? You have a coach you got you who was your coach you got you to the finals twice? It was Byron Scott. So Byron's so By coach you got you to the finals twice it was Byron Scott so Byron so Byron Scott got him to the finals twice but he says Lauren Frank is a better coach there but the situation from the outside media perspective oh Byron Scott is uh and no not I don't you know I've never had him a coach can't tell you but what's oh he got his team to a final so it's a lot depending on how the team performs and vice versa but how important is it to teach young players how to impact winning so they can stay in the NBA longer?

And are coaches doing that? No. Certain coaches, yes. Certain ones, no. Just not. Yeah, because it's not on the coaches, right? Not at that level. They're not putting the locker room together. It's the guy upstairs. Yeah, the GMs are doing that. It's the guy upstairs that not putting the locker room together it's the guy upstairs

it's the guy upstairs that's putting the locker room together so when you got a room team for the 19 year old 19 20 21 22 23 right the 23 year old is the vet because he's been around for four years now right 23 yes so he putting that team together so you mean to tell me you can't stand you can't so you don't want to have a 28 year old or maybe a 31 year old that that's been established that give me a couple of them dudes in there right That's been something that's been around in the locker room. Give me a Udonis Haslam. Give me a Tyson Chandler at the end. Give me certain guys that did

something that, if I need him, yeah, I could throw him, but that ain't what he's here for, right? He's good for my locker room. He teaches us how to win. He holds my guys accountable when the coach ain't around, when certain things that I could say to Gil when the coach ain't around when certain things that I could say to Gil that the coach can't say because I've been around for 13 years right and I didn't make the

playoffs 10 of my 13 years and I might have went to the finals or I might have a win I might have a championship that Gil look at me different when I tell him something like young fella you can make that extra pass you know's going to take it different than the coach. It just comes off. There's some things that can be relayed and that translates into winning that I can say that vets

can say. And it falls on the GM. They put these teams together. So I don't think it's coaching. What's so funny is they do these analytics and they treat... It seems like the NBA now general managers treating Treating the teams like it's fantasy I guess this is real fantasy basketball like they underdog right you put the T though

You just put names together like no, that's not a team. That's names Then you wonder why they're not getting along. They look good on paper. Yeah, personalities gotta match, games gotta match, right? So they're really treated like it's underdog fantasy. And then you go hire the coach. So you put the team together, right? You pick the players.

The coach might ask some say so, it depends on the organization. But then you go pick the coach to coach these kids, to coach the player that you just picked. In this case, in Charlotte's case, it don't add up. It doesn't add up. Another situation where you got a coach that has similar roster, mostly black guys on the team, whatever, is Indiana. But Rick Carlisle coaches a certain way.

He demands a certain, to play a certain way, there's a certain demand from Rick Carlisle. Them dudes out there, they buying in. So it just depends on the coach and your approach from the beginning and who you have in the locker room. And you got a few guys that's been around. Miles Turner's been around. So you got a guy that's, ain't got to be the most vocal guy,

but certain things need to be relayed. And I just think in Charlotte, they don't have that. Okay. And that's unfortunate, but yeah. I think... It's on the clock. It's simple like this. As a coach, you always have respect from your players

if they feel you're putting them in a position to be successful. That's the bottom line. If you have players on your team that they feel you are trying to hurt them in a situation, you lost them. If I'm not even playing my guy, but I'm saying, hey, just keep working just keep working keep working I'm gonna try to get you in there I just stay positive keep doing anything and I have to try to figure out how to make him good like I said he's been working and I got to try to figure out and how to put him in right if I feel like no matter what I, you don't fuck with me? I mentally quit on you.

And then from there, it just trickles down and trickles down. And you're not a man of your word. You're not a man of your ethics. You're not a man of just, like, I'm, I'm, you're supposed to be trying to help me get better. Right? Which means you have to try to keep putting me in situations to succeed. Right? If it ever feels like you're not trying to help anybody succeed, you're going to lose the locker room.

And do you ever feel like you've had coaches, this is for all three of you, that basically looked at you and basically said, I don't give a fuck about you, Gil, so I'm not going to do anything to try to help you. I don't care if you're here or not. I'd probably say the only time I ever felt like that was probably the start of the NBA. That's probably the only time I ever felt like that was probably the same as Andy. That's probably the only time. I suppose you're cognizant of that, right?

I mean, you can feel it. Yeah, I mean, it's not always like they don't care about you or not putting you in situations to be successful, but it's like there are times where you're like, damn, I can't do nothing right. And then you get to look, and that's when you lose lock. Then you get to looking at your teammate. Well, she's doing that.

He's doing it. But when I do it, and now I got imaginary beef with my teammate for no reason because it's coming from the coach. So I think there are rare occasions when coaches just flat out don't care about their players. I don't want to put that on all coaches. But, yeah, sometimes they do get hyper fixated on certain players and just try to bother them or test them. Well, yeah, that whipping boy. You and Coach's doghouse.

I've seen who's been it. I've called out my coaches on doing too much to a player, and then I've also been that player. You've been in the doghouse before. I've seen it from all angles, and it's not cool. I don't know why coaches do that. Egos? Egos get involved.

You mentioned some president's gyms, they treat it like underdog fantasy, right? Whoop, whoop. Do they know that if they use promo code GIL, they can get $100 first-time deposit in doing so? Just for GMs. But so keep this thing moving. Is winning worth changing your game if it extends your career? Say it again. Is winning worth changing your game if it can extend your career?

When you say winning, what do you mean? Like a championship? And that's the other question. Or winning records? Winning at a team level versus winning at an individual person. Like, are those two things different? Because if I'm putting up 15, 16 a game, that means I can get some bread. Now, if I'm only putting up seven or eight and the teams perform better.

It depends on who you ask, right? It depends on who you ask. If you ask the number one, number two, number three guy, you know, they're going to say, yeah, I'm pretty sure if you ask 15, 14, and 13, you know, they're going to have something different to say because, you know, on all four of those Steph Curry championships, there was other players besides Steph, Draymond Green and Klay and Iggy and Mooney and them. There was people that we don't know that contributed in spirit.

They're no longer in the NBA. They're no longer in the NBA still. So on championship teams, winning they they are their part of the winning they have the winning attitude the winning locker room and they are replaced and gone yeah right so it all depends i want to be a star and win i don't want to be the last person on the bench and win i'd rather trade that in for some playing time yeah but it reaches a point stage in your career, right, once you're financially stable.

I take the long jab. I take the long jab. Once you're financially stable, you can make, like, David West going to the Warriors, sacrifice some playing time and bag to get that goal, to get that quest. Once you get to that level of your career, now early on, if I'm putting up 15, 16, you say,

hey, we can win more games if you average 10. On a personal level, yeah. I mean, it's like winning in a bag. That's a, you know what I mean? That's the ideal. Like Santa Claus. If we all started our career and said, what do you want to do? I want to be the number one guy and I want to win a championship.

Yes. Alright. Option two. The number one guy. The number one guy. Option three. Second option. Second option. Number three. When I'm like 38, win the championship. Right. You know what I mean? Of course, you know, we want to win the championship, but we want to win the championship being the guy that's like think about the heroes that we all talk about when we talk about the greatest players of all time right they're the number one guys and the champions right no one talks about the number threes and fours they're not putting that same air when we talk about the goats the reason there's the goat is because they have both they are the goat and the they have it all and that's where when we're looking at the game, no one's looking at a game saying I want to be, I want to be Kirk Ramp, no one's

doing that. So when you look around Kenya, you said winning is a learned behavior, right? It starts very early on in life, not just even in sports. But now when you get to the business side of the league, how many guys do you think actually really give a fuck about winning well the ones that's in winning positions the ones that have the expectations to win because there are but more teams that don't have any expectation to win anything ones that do absolutely so the ones that are in that those positions care more about winning than...

Yeah. So if you're on a good team, that's a winner, but we've talked about before, you got guys who are losers that can win championships, right? They're losers individually, but they get put on a good squad. Hey, I'm a winner now. Okay, okay. Just reality. Like, we talk in general, but let's take the number one Clippers the Clippers right the starters

In a six-man They want to win Do you really think bones Highland want to win or do you think he want to play I? Think sitting on the bench for as long as bones does he probably just wants to get his ass out there Yeah, like, you know, so you have winners and people who are more into, like, winning the championship for Bone Highland doesn't do nothing for his career. Him playing and being

in that situation, so it depends on who you are and where you are inside that team and situation. You know, the guy whose contract is coming up, right? It's his contract year. He ain't got the big joint

yet right i've i've seen i've seen game the game full we're about to get eliminated and it's a dude contract year do you really think he's trying to win and go to the next round or do you think he's trying to end that game right there so he's healthy Right anything can happen around four more games from now shit twist my ink like or if we a I go out here take seven Shots shit and we lose season over with I can get them negotiating for my contract Versus sitting here trying to win go hard and we get to the second round and we get to nah That's just that's just extra games that can possibly fuck something up and fuck that bag up so you do have selfishness inside of a team realm so it all depends on where you are who you are and what the status is of it's kind of the age-old question would you rather

average 30 and win or average average 30 and lose or average 10 and win the damn in-season tournament. Like, you had teams that were in a position to win that aren't in a position to win now. And it's two completely different teams we watching now. Yeah, that's fair. That was like a very small sample size of what being in the position to win does to your team. Yeah. Or you're not in the playoffs,

you've got one of the worst records, so it's whatever. Everyone kind of just whooping for themselves, which is not always a bad thing. What do you think about the Pacers, the back half of that roster, not making a ton of bread, definitely high motivation to go get that bag. Some jump on the Lakers as well. Seems so long ago. It was.

It was a better time. We were so good. It was a better time. We were so good. It was a better time. Y'all was on top of the world. Hey boy, this is Laker having the Clippers down here. Yo, you look up the record, the Lakers versus the Clippers the last decade. Oh yeah, we been getting our been you know, I smack is amazing Is it really like a country still? Yes. I'll get I'll get y'all got the championship in the Bob. I get that. Yeah Yo, no, listen

The reason the reason is 30 and 8. Yeah, the reason is this Yeah, Lakers are 8 and 32 versus the Clippers between February 7, 2014. Last decade. And February 7, 2014. No, no, no. Regular season, though. Regular season. Y'all got to understand this is different, though.

Because they like the little brother. I don't think the fans knew this, though. I don't think the Lakers actually. No, y'all didn't know the number. Y'all knew, like, okay, they didn't give us a few times. No, we know we been getting our ass whooped for a long time. But not the record. Regular season.

Huh? They ain't played in the playoffs yet, so. Okay, but. You gonna keep throwing that out there? I'm just pointing it out. But do we care about regular season? Yeah, y'all ain't played in the playoffs. Because they don't want to.

We just care about the season. Guaranteed, if they play in the playoffs, they'll kick y'all ass. We playing the playoffs. We getting smacked, bro. No. Who? We smacking them in the playoffs. No, not a chance. So do you think. y'all can't beat them. We can't know

The last we so toy y'all with the last decade came this year We don't give we brought to this year y' had six. I know We brought a season I had six, you know, we know that Lakers are to 30 For this year has me half the people I know is clipping fans. So trust me we know well, I do want to Know yeah It's been rough, but we got to keep the last decade the last decade Not like the last two three three years we talked about. It's been a whole fucking decade. They've been putting foot to ass, man.

What's ass? There have been some foots. They play four times a year. So you know how... There's been years where they swept, y'all. Like, there's been a few years where they swept. It was usually... It was like the Nick Young years.

It was... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything always comes back to Nick Young. It was some Chris Paul, nigga. We went through some rough times. We went through some rough times. We went through some rough times. Shit happens. Why you bringing up old shit, Dave?

Tired of showing up, and it's a fucking role game. It's a home game, but it's a role game. Like, you fans, y'all finna be disappointing this bitch. Yeah. We started, listen,

as a Laker fan, when it's a Clipper home game, we start off, let's go Lakers. You know about the time it's back to the clip Yeah, you know reality didn't kick in think they wow. I saw that I was like, oh Before this year that she was 32 is six I got two wins. Why do you think the Clipper fans has been like really like out there?

Like there's more Clipper fans now because their championships is really... It ain't just Billy Crystal anymore. It's in the city. They're kicking y'all ass. It's the in-city. In the in-city, they feel like it's our... It's our... Yeah.

Clipper Darryl got a new... Now they got money behind them, too, so... Ooh-wee! They got real bread. And they about to get out of y'all's stadium. Boy, you can't tell them shit. I know. That's the problem, AD.

I'll tell you, don't let them win this year. Oh, boy. The Clippers. Marcellus, why I got to hear Marcellus? Why? Oh, my God. Don't let them win this year and bring that banner to the new spot. Hang the banner in the new stadium?

The new arena? They already fucked up, though. They putting high school jerseys up there already. So, I mean, they already starting off bad. It's different. I know. They put some high school jerseys up there. Do y'all like that?

The high school jersey thing? I say it's different. If it's California jerseys? All California. Oh, mine's going to be there then. They said they're not rolling with grand high school jerseys. You crazy as shit. They said they only respect real high school.

You crazy as shit. They talking about putting high school players from California in there? So the new Intuit Dome, they're basically, they've tasked all California high school to send in a jersey, and they'll hang it up around the arena. Oh, that's cute. 1,000% mine is getting put there because I'm the king of the valley. Now, the problem is, I got to, like like change my thought on Clippers. So I got to get rid of 30 years.

It's not going to happen. 30 years of. Yo, are you sending a jersey in? You got to bring it to Steve Roberts. Who yours? For sure. You got to hand deliver it. What did you have in high school out here?

39. It was a reasonable number. But you didn't win shit, though. No, no, no, no. Then there was no winning. Because. There was no state champions back then? No.

There was none? No, it was. There wasn't a crowning one? People couldn't win? There was a crowning one. Oh. There was a crowning one. Oh, it just wasn't on your radar.

No, no, no. What I'm saying is how you guys playing now, like the Sierra Canyons and stuff, that was public school. Okay. Right? So public school back then, right, was when the Valley got to the public school, no matter what our record was, we was the 16th seed. We could have lost one game. We the 16th seed once we hit the playoffs. So we playing against Crenshaw number one

So we playing no matter what my record was we playing see your came first game First game see your king so every time I made the playoffs I'm the 16 seed damn. Yeah, it was no So the valley was the weakest thing moving now La is the weakest thing moving which is wild. So, you know know I mean so like I'm playing Crenshaw and I'm scoring 40 something but we getting blown out. So that's yeah, it was no I'm with no walking apart Now they got the visions and you know, you got you know open and five Like that doesn't I would have never been that's I would have never been in open if my team would have never been an open Division, but you would have went further nowadays.

Hell yeah. I would have won the state championship. They would have put you on the janky division. Division two and one. Yeah, absolutely. That motherfucker averaging 100. Shit. 16 division.

Yeah, they get the fucking five double A and shit. Give me one of them. Absolutely. Glorious. Diamonds in the world. Like that's what I said. We was like, even now, even the best player in the

league, it don't even go to the best player in the league anymore. It goes to whoever won the division and then whoever won the division that coach picks who it is. So he just picks his own player. That shit is wild. That shit is wild. It is an interesting time. Yeah, I'm over here like we playing Sierra Camp, like come on dawg.

It's wild walking. I'm playing against all Hispanics, baby Yay Bucket is while walking in the gym playing five niggas just like day you see the ball like I had to play them That's what I had to play them first round the point guard six five. I'm the center I'm the sit on defense sit on defense Point guard on defense. Point guard on offense. They point guard 6-5. Shooting guard

6-7. 3-6 saps. Power 4-6-8 big. Center 7-4. What the fuck we do that? Full court press. Full court press the whole time. 32 straight minutes. Sub. Press. Press. Press. That is some high school shit. New 5-bit. Keep going.

Now you sitting here like, Shit, can we play the JV? Yeah, we're... It was a better time. Can we play the J... Shit, we probably would've. It was a better taste while walking in the gym now seeing some of the TV from Russia. Man, what was this at when

I played? Where's this at when I played? I can only imagine. What was this at when I played? The Padre tree has left us. Like Boxing 1, when I got Boxing 1, it was a Boxing 1. For real? Yeah, it was. Like Sylmar Prison. Sylmar High School, they had prisoners there.

Like, I'm dead ass serious. Feel the valley boy. I'm dead assass serious. Feel the valley, boy. I'm dead-ass serious. Shout-out to the San Fernando Valley. It was prisoners when I... The comeback has been amazing to witness. So, last question for you guys before we get to Mostly Fans. Would you rather have a player with a high basketball IQ...

Yep. ...and minimal talent... Yes. ...or low basketball IQ and high talent? Is he my best player? Which one is my... Or is he just a teammate? Just, I'm giving you two players.

He's on a team? He's my teammate? On a team. I'm picking the high IQ player. So I got a Travis Outlaw. Yeah, I didn't. I got a Travis Outlaw because he was talented as a motherfucker. There was no need to put names on this hypothetical.

It's just that's what came to mind. We were already not welcome. Outlaw, remember? That's the funniest shit he got to tell about nothing, nigga. Bo Outlaw. Same shit. Bo, you playing hard, but you're killing us. Hey, Bo Outlaw, one of the hardest working human beings.

Absolutely. Charmed. Seven, eight miles on the track every day. Give me high IQ. He been around. Did he play with my dad? Yeah. He did?

Or I don't know. I don't know. Go out on a living legend. I remember watching him play, though, because I was a little kid. You love watching someone who just runs around all over the place. Clipper legend.

Give me high IQ, man. Because you know, my IQ. So your high IQ was minimal talent? Because no matter how talented you are, if you dumb, you dumb. If that's hard. We can train a little bit. We can make you a little better. Can't get right.

We can't teach IQ after a certain age, honestly. We can't. You'd be sitting there like, boy, what is you just, what are you looking at out? Like, you'd be sitting there like, that's the look. You'd be sitting there just like. You got to watch those players and film. How did you make, how did he make it this far? You'd be sitting, like,... You got to watch those players and film. How did he make it this far? You'd be asking real questions.

When we're talking about making it to the NBA is the hardest thing to do, then you get there and you see some players and you'd be sitting here like... What? Yeah. How? Hey, Kurt Thomas told me shit when I got to the Knicks.

You know, I'm vocal. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm vocal. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm, hey, the instructions, you know, you've been around, man. I'm trying to help. Curt leaned over and said, you're going to drive yourself crazy. You keep talking to him. I said, yo.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You know. Hey, man. Those players. KG said, man, you're going to die. You just got to let them hoop, but you cannot put them in situations where they got to be decision makers. But now, this is why the NBA looks the way it is. No play, let me think for you.

Yeah, this is why the NBA looks the way it is. No plays, because even when I play, they be like, all right, this is what we're going to draw. You're going to come here. We're going to put you here. All you have to do is, when we dribble pass here, just flare going to come here. We're going to put you here. All you have to do is when we dribble past here, just flare out to the corner. We're going to pass it to you. Soon as we get out of the huddle, break. He lined up on his side.

I see it at all levels. There's a lot of wrong side levels. Oh, oh, oh, oh. And then come and then go here. Instead of popping out to the corner, he done came this way. You done threw a whole lot of bounds. Like, yo, get him out, man. All right, damn, we ain't got time to be doing this, man.

Give me the high IQ every time. There's a reason them corner dudes be corner dudes. Hey, listen, all you got to do is listen. You see that corner right there? You go to that corner. You see it right there. If the ball gets to you, shoot it. Right? If someone is already in that corner, go to that corner. You see it right there. If the ball gets to you, shoot it. If someone is already in that corner, go to that corner.

That's it. That's it. That's all you got to do today. You're going to run to that corner or that corner. Sometimes we had to tell them, hey, Nick, let's go to the corner. Just like in the club, they got the booth. That booth is never going to move. It's going to the corner. All right? You know, just like in a club, you know, they got the booth. Yeah. Right?

That booth is never going to move. It's going to sit right there. So when you can't find us, God damn it, we're going to be right at this booth. Right? All right? When we come down on this end, be the booth. Break. Obviously, you got all professional players at a super high level.

When you're playing with players, did you find that they knew, if you're running plays, they knew what everybody on that play was supposed to do or would they just learn their shit exclusively? No, they know everything else. Okay. Because that is, because I can only run it from the four. Special ones. Like, yeah. No, no.

But that's to say, you know, there's levels and levels of levels of minds in the NBA. So, you know, you have guys, you know, like Kenyon was one of them, where he knows everyone's position, offense and defense, right? You know, some guys who just know theirs. We was in the offense. Well, they might not know theirs. But, you know, we were in the offense

where we had to know everyone's position because we were in everyone's position. Sometimes, you know, I got to be the power forward because, you know, so you have to reverse plays. But, you know, that takes... be the power for because you know, so the you have to reverse plays But you know that takes I see that a lot Lower levels It's like you have to know every single position because we might not need you at the tomb I need you at the three you Might have to run for this time. There may be a rare occasion where you have to rule this so bad that if You ask these some players to run the play on the opposite side of the floor. They gonna botch it. Yeah

They've been running on the right side every time you ask them run on the left side. They gonna botch it Same exact same exact play they gonna botch it I just feel like Bare minimum if you're a guard you should know one through three and if you're opposed you should know four or five bare minimum Bare minimum bare minimum there. Yeah, and that's not a lot to ask. No. But if you like getting buckets, I'll know everyone. Even in the zone, even in zone defense, if I'm used to this side, and then he came to this side and I go to this side, I'm sitting here trying to heal you, let's just switch.

Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing the same thing? Let's just switch. You're doing the same thing. Because their brain is used to this movement, to here, to this. Them looking this way to go this way, you done fucked them up.

You come down on the zone, he on your side, y'all standing right next to each other like, man, get your ass over there, man. Then you look over, you're like, nope, I got it, I'll go, I'll go. Now that's a real thing, even at the next level.

That's why I say, you be looking at some people like, man, how hard I had, the shit I had to do to get here. There's no damn way. And this is like, obviously players, you see it different than us as fans

because we may watch and not notice the shit that may just completely piss you off. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We may think, oh, he did his job. Like, nah. That's why,

that's why, that's why, you know know analysts usually piss us the fuck off you telling us to do something and you don't know who the fuck he is you say you want me to pass him the ball cuz you look he's wide open in the corner so trust me we know we know we put him we put him there we put him right there that's why it was there was never no option in our playbook to pass him the ball in that corner you think he has 20 20 vision that motherfucker sitting at 20 45 over there he should have contacts in but he forgot him coach put him in there for just for decoy right and you keep sitting

here challenging what the fuck we know. I'm about to spaz, and that's going to be a whole other situation. Oh, shit. But that irritates, that really irritates players. Just players all across the board. Like, you're critiquing us on surface level shit that you can see. You have no idea about nothing but you read, your piece of paper, what you're seeing in the game. If I ask you a question, how many passes or shots does it take before your hands start to bleed?

You wouldn't know because you've never been in this situation. How many dunks does you need to take before you start getting keloids on your fingers? How long does that take before it rocks up? You wouldn't know. Don't tell me how to play a game that I've been doing since I was little. Just like you've been reading. I can't tell you how to do your job.

Don't tell us how to do ours. You went to school watching it. I was in school playing it right I know I know how the kilo is how many how many weeks before I got to start shaving the bottom because it doesn't burned off you don't know that so don't tell me how to play this game don't tell me I'm not good you have no input on here just read the fucking script huh the little jumbotron read it it. Which we don't have here. Read it, agree to teleprompter and then move on. The jumbo script is the new name.

Stop saying it. Leave me the jumbo script. If I was in the game, I would have just shut up. Shut your fat ass up. Gil, that's how we connect with the game though. If I had Gil's skills, I would have averaged 32. All right. Listen, what I'm going to do is I'm going do is I'm gonna go to American Airline, right?

Oh, I'm gonna sit in the book because I don't watch a lot of Airplane slap. I don't know. Yeah, I don't watch a lot of that. I'm gonna go in here tell my do his job I want to I want to see what he tell me. I don't watch doogie Howser a whole lot. Uh-huh Great copilot is one that flies the plane. I'm gonna go be copilot Great. Yeah, I'm about to go be co-pilot for the day. Great show. Great show. I'm going to do y'all like, yeah, I'm about to go in here and just do some surgery. We're the only profession that people who's never been here get to critique us like they're smarter than us.

It is funny to watch. But Gil, question for you. How many shots do you need to take for your fingers to start bleeding? You can take about, depends on how fast you're shooting it, about 2200. In one sitting? Yeah. Your fingers start getting raw? Until you do it about two hours, two and a half hours.

If it's on the three second joint, three seconds, you can shoot about six minutes, I mean six minutes 15 seconds if it's a shooting machine. So every six minutes you got 500 shots. 500 shots in six minutes? Mm, if it's a shooting machine. So every six minutes, you got 500 shots. 500 shots in six minutes? Mm-hm. On a shooting machine. That's tiring. Wait a minute, hold on, let me do the motion.

On the shooting machine. Every three seconds. That's 20, that's 20 shots a minute. All right, all right, yeah. Hand bleeding, yeah. That's 20, that's good, that's 20 shots a minute. Think about it, when Steve Nash, when, think about when Steve Nash was complaining about the ball, the new ball that came in.

And he said, yo, it's cutting my hands. Think about how many passes he was making before it actually cut his hand. Amazing ball. Fabulous. I was mad that it got rid of it. Yeah? Hell yeah, that was it. So you like when we were playing, when they changed it? Yeah, so when they changed it. So you liked the one we were playing when they changed it?

You remember? Yeah, so when they changed it. So you liked the new one? That foam one? That foam one? That kind of, yeah. You didn't like it? We wouldn't even practice with it.

We wouldn't even practice with it. So y'all started with the old ball and then played it with the new one? Couldn't do it, man. I took one home. I started shooting with it. Used to get a sparky hell in Denver man Fuck the balls But they say fuck with the league say we need

Should I scored the 60 in it if it did four in that fit? Oh, no Oh, yeah Asterix, okay, you can put whatever you want. I had that motherfucker going in. Yah, yah, yah. You like that? Yeah, it was... So let's move on to our last segment of the day, Mostly Fans. Again, this show is presented to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app.

Use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. So you can do higher lowers on several low IQ players. And wonder why none of them ever hit the hires like I do every single night. You can try your hardest and not let me get my hires 0.5 away. Even with like the load management, right? And then you have players that's out there talking about, yeah, you know, I don't believe

in load management. I know you don't believe on it because you was the 15th and 14th man on the team. Nobody load management you, dude. You didn't go into a game where a coach was like, yeah, you know, we're just going to sit you out tonight. You're not that guy. You sued of all 82 games, brother. So, you know, depending on who you are, depending on the conversation you're going to have.

So when somebody said, well, another athlete said that, but who was he? Right? Who was he on the team for the information? You know, like, so, whoever's on Philly, right? 14th and 15th is not getting the same conversation that Embiid is getting. Okay? That's just how that

works. God, we need to play every day. I'm sorry. Like, Embiid, we don't need you to play every day. You put your uniform on. All right? Just put your fucking uniform on. Another inspiring day. I'm just saying, when people are out there saying, well, other players are playing, the shit I can say, Kedrick Perkins can't say.

All right? Kedrick. Not to be confused with Kedrick Lamar. No, I'm just saying, Kendrick, there's things that he just can't say. He wasn't in that situation. That's Paul Pierce and Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett's conversation. So his information, same thing with mine. There's things he can say that I can't commentate on because I wasn't in certain situations,

like if it's a game seven or a game six in the finals. When he talks about I was never in that situation, I had those type of conversations. Kedrick, please, come on the show. You're always welcome. Feel free. No, no, no. There's no hate. It's just saying the level of information can only go as far.

Like when you talk about certain defense and stuff or knowing certain things from the defense, controlling their offense from the defense aside, I can't have that conversation because I never did that right my defense is all hell god dammit where you at I was the one who was like god dammit just stay in front of the goddamn guy yeah yeah my bad my bad so bad our first mostly fans question is from underdog user free game, but the Es are threes, if that makes sense to you guys. So FR33, GAM3. I like it.

What is your biggest pet peeve when being defended? Lexi, we'll start with you. My biggest pet peeve? I don't know. Not being top blocked on down screens. Like, it's just, I don't know. not being top blocked on down screens. Like, it's just guard me. So you want a free run. It's just a free run.

You just want them to trail you. Yeah, let me go. Let me get this off. Let me go. Trail me going this way so I can shoot it while you're on this side. Not every team does it. So when a team decides to do it, I'm like, fuck. That's a good coach.

Lexi, you're getting ready for a season. I hope none of your opponents are watching this show. Hey, I tell them all the time. Every time I see it, I'm like, why are y'all doing this? I would just say my biggest pet peeve, when y'all leave me open. That's my pet peeve. Just leave me open. No, I hate that shit. But it's smart because I also do it.

Okay. But yeah, I hate that. For sure. So they're not learning any information that they didn't Are ya know like when my coaches are like Lexi get off the down screen. I'm like They're there already, but go some go another way. It's fine, but pet peeve. Okay. What is your biggest pet peeve when being defended? Though you got like somebody like Chuck Hayes that can't back down. One of them motherfuckers trying to shoot this jump hook.

Trying to get to this left shoulder. Move. Why you so strong? Oh, you so strong for no reason. Why your base like that? Why your little body so strong? And what was the biggest pet peeve that you're what was something that you would do to annoy the shit out of players and when you were guarding them

that they would give you a hard time about I pulled the chair I'm swiping at the ball every time yeah you can't go your regular shot against me You go out change I'm swiping both left shoulder right with it, whichever way you go. I'm trying to get it on the bottom First or I'll get on the bottom So mr. Arenas Charles formerly Lexi's arena again back to girls arena. We're pet peeve is being doubled being doubled and Then they talk shit like they stopped me individually right so my main guy who's guarding me they doubling me the whole time but he think he's by himself talking shit and he can't score me guard me by yourself there take the double off

but don't don't come over here and double let me see what you your defense work is like That's so I hate being doubled in you take credit for stopping me Like I don't your thoughts on double teams in the summertime. I don't mind. I mean it helps you get ready for the season I just don't like like It's this is like a pry I guess it's more of a pride thing, right? On the defensive guy. If you're a real defensive guy, like when I watch games,

and let's say Patrick Beverly is a defensive player, and he's guarding a James Harden. The person who's getting doubled, if I don't know nobody in the gym, when I come to the gym and I say, all right, okay, he's getting doubled, so he must be the best player. Okay. Now the best defensive player gets, I don't know who that is now. Because if you are the best defensive player and you need help, you technically are the weakest defensive player because usually the defensive player stands on his own merit, right? Right. So Draymond shouldn't be asking for a double clay shouldn't be after double that should be Steph, right?

so sometimes if you're a defensive player and Y'all are double-teaming somebody you look weaker from the public eye without even knowing. Yeah You say help at me I'm cussing. Yeah. Oh, it was one situation, this is funny as shit, right? So we playing the Clippers. You know, I'm... I think I'm a pretty good defender. I'm guarding Elton.

First four possessions, they run turn, turn for the front. I'm on top of it, though. Like, you know, he got that high release, but I'm on it. He first knock it down, say they run and turn it. First four possessions, Got eight points. Time out. Should we double him? You know, I ain't never asked for, throughout 15, never.

I lean down and shit. If you don't, you don't have a career without this bitch. Just, hey. Sometimes you need a little help. Yeah, no. Hey, just disrupt his rhythm. Come on, dig down. Dig down one time.

Let him throw that bitch out there. Let him think we're going to double him. That's all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's all. This regular man shit, he got this figured out right now. Yeah, these fur for possessions, he has got this figured out. So, yeah.

Yeah, please do. Let's move on to our next question from underdog user MacPaper2017. Shout out to the arena. Yo, yeah, gang, all y'all for real. How y'all playing them big-ass shorts, though? That's my question for the arena. Please. Yeah, that man is $100.

Question is, how did y'all play in them big-ass shorts? You just had to. I wore the long shorts until I got to Duke. Yeah, that man is $100. Question is, how did y'all play in them big ass shorts? He's just a dad, too. I wore the long shorts until I got to Duke. I have pictures at Maryland. My shorts were down to my kneecaps. That's just what you played in. Do we blame the Fab Five for that? Why were we doing that?

That was just what was in style. I don't know. Didn't go through the legs much. Well, because they wore little shorts, and then they wore big shorts, and now we're back to somewhere in the middle. Just to say, I don't remember going through the legs a lot, because you get caught. Right. But for the most part, it's mostly crossovers behind the backs.

It was a whole 17XYT phase. There ain't nothing wrong with long shorts out there. It's a comfort white tee face. You know, I comfort thing For me got some of your old jerseys. See I know you do was like just be a bit naughty No, sir. These were heavy. Yeah, man Is there a plus size on this size 56 This is just 56. This is a plus anything. I remember seeing my dad. Oh, did it happen? Plus how does y'all wear them big jerseys all right so big so it'll be 56 plus 6 oh you oh yeah you had to see you too like it was like it was this my jersey on me is down here my game Jersey that I can put on right now is to my like yeah, why?

Everything was so big I was watching the clip me. I got And I'm put my journey. I'm like, yo I go going through we was moving and I'm going through I remember bill your stuff and I put I'm like I Put what a motherfucker on the pool table. I was like yo Why is this yo like it was so funny some of those jerseys are flipped under and some I had to trim just so it Would fit in the frame I bet Yes, I'm my devil Or you fold it I mean, of course you had to give a take you look like you had a dress on So my Jersey never came out cuz I took my Jersey in my title

I had on tights and shorts up under I had on tights practice shorts. Oh, yeah, the pressure I'm gonna get my game sure so I took my jersey inside my tights and my Jersey ever came out somebody put it I'd be like do ref. Yeah, but without holding this shit. Yeah, that's I had boxes Do you hoop the boxers Wow? became problem because Boxes comes out the hole and he's sitting there doing this the whole time trying to get it back in then that kind of look You know that is the drink. I had a whole nother. I was planning graze

Like the graze they they would give you like they like not Tyson, but they was like they was shorts but they wasn't I had a whole nother issue and I had to go to the doctor he was like so what are you playing in I was like he said no you too loose you need to tighten up son like I'm out there in pain like what the hell is going on man he's like no

you need to put on some spandex son we learned something new every day you're too free. You out here just playing. You're too free and loose out here. What you doing, son? Again, do not search Drake League. Do yourself a favor. It is not music related.

Our last question from underdog user Real Hooper 39. Hey, what's cracking, everybody? So, look, we talking college, right? Who got the worst college name and the best college name? So, for me, it's going to be like the Trojans for sure got the best one. And the damn Nebraska Cornhuskers? Got to be the worst. Let me know. The worst? And the damn Nebraska Cornhuskers? Gotta be the worst. Let me know.

The worst? As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, when sending in your MostlyFan videos, feel free to be fully clothed. You can purchase Gills Arena merchandise, courtesy of Tough Crowd. Rockin' Gills Arena shirt, help us out. What's the best and worst college nickname?

What is Deuce? Blue Devil. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like Tar Heels either. Tar Heels can go. What is a Tar Heel? What is a Blue Devil? A Tar Heel. I don't even remember. Compton High was the Tar Babes at one point.

And it was a big black ass baby Eskimo You a dookie, huh? Yes Yeah, what is a blue devil a devil that is blue He's made up this made up Real devilils like happier. You got the blue devil You got good bad. Yeah, exactly. We're the good one. Yeah Yeah, yes, what does the blue devil represent? Not even know yeah, what is the valiant in opposition to the enemy? Are you well they have the. The ram. But then they also have a foot with tar on it.

So which one is it? I've seen both. Yeah. Their mascot is the ram, though. So Blue Devils were a French military unit in World War I that wore blue jackets.

Okay. See? There we go. See? We learn something every day. Many Duke students and alumni returning home from the Western Front.

Yeah, we learn something every day. We do learn something. Go, Blue Devil. So you got Banana Slugs. I believe it's UC Santa Cruz's mascot. Who? Banana Slugs. Never heard of them, but that's pretty bad.

It depends on if you got some shooters over there. Banana Slugs. Are you looking at the worst mascots right now? Some of these are just in my head because I've had to see these human beings throughout periods of my life. Yeah, that's a bad one. Corn huskers, it's an interesting one. Husking of corn.

Yeah, but you know it works for out there. Who's the Gamecocks? That's South Carolina. That's South Carolina. That is, anytime you can shorten it to cocks, it's a little... South Carolina. You know, for my juvenile mind, it's a little tough. Yeah, I don't know.

Which ones do you like? The blue devils. Wildcats. The blue devils. Wildcats, bear down. Woo-woo. Too much Arizona love in here. Bearcats.

Bearcats. Bearcat. What is it brewing? It's a baby bear. It's a baby bear? Oh. Oh. They were... I do love when y'all do the... Beer cat. Beer cat. What is it brewing? It's a baby beer. It's a baby beer? Aw.

I do love when y'all do the blue, yellow with the little bear emoji. It's just like very cute. They were the little brother to Kyle that became the big brother. Much like Giannis and Thanat. Oh, is it? Yes. The golden bears and then they- Kyle, I think, was the first UC. And then UCLA was a little later. Much better.

Hollywood. Much more turnt up. That's cute, right? I love the Bears. Giannis. And Kyle's not the Nassie. Will not be joining us in the Big Ten, unfortunately. All right.

Back 12. Yeah. But, okay. That was a good question. Thank you. Wasn't prepared for it. Shout out to RealHuber39. And shout out to everybody in the chat.

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