Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Predicts The Futures Of The Lakers & Warriors
Episode Date: August 14, 2024Gil's Arena Expects BIG THINGS From LeBron James, JJ Redick & The Los Angeles Lakers as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew preview the 2024 NBA Season and kick things off with the most important te...am in association. They break down the team's lackluster offseason that saw no major moves beyond the hiring of JJ Redick & drafting of Bronny James and debate if a healthy Lakers team is good enough to compete with the top teams in the NBA's Western Conference. Next, they move over to another historic franchise coming off a disappointing offseason in the Golden State Warriors as the former dynasty lost Klay Thompson & missed out on Lauri Markkanen, leaving Steph Curry & Draymond Green on an island for the first time in their careers, inspiring a debate on if the Dubs have done enough to maintain a roster good enough keep Steph in the Bay for the rest of career. Finally, No Chill Gil & The Crew celebrate the fast approaching NBA Season by breaking down the recently released Christmas Games Schedule and give their predictions over who will be a part of the 2028 Olympic Team looking to lead Team USA to another Gold Medal. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants & Kenyon Martin Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:02 NFL Preview 0:04:10 Ice Cube's BIG3 vs FIBA 0:10:26 Building The Best 3x3 Squad 0:23:38 Season Opener & Christmas Games Preview 0:29:46 Paul George's Impact On The 76ers Debate 0:40:30 Klay Thompson's Return To Golden State 1:01:23 The Warriors Murky Future 1:08:33 Does Kuminga Deserve A Max Extension? 1:22:08 BIG Expectation For The Lakers 1:40:14 Happy Birthday Magic Johnson!! 2:01:10 Gil DESTROYS Team USA's Biggest Hater 2:17:44 MostlyFans 2:31:03 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Basketball season, a few months away,
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It's football season, man.
It's football season, man.
Football season.
We're going to talk a little football this season.
We got to.
We're going to have to.
I'm going to be here.
We're going to have to.
You know damn well, as soon as football season is over,
we'll be out for a month.
They think they slick.
We're going to talk football all September.
Crazy.
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Crazy.
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Oh, we're not.
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As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
Still wearing the engagement ring.
I respect it.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Feeling like a baddie.
Do I have options?
Feeling like a baddie.
I ain't no had options to take over.
Y'all still going?
Okay.
We can last a whole 24 hours. Yeah. We got Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCance in the building.
Okay, with the Randall Cunningham, we respect it.
Eagles are my team this year.
Okay.
So Knicks are your basketball team, Eagles are your football team.
Lamar Jackson is my player.
Oh, Lamar Jackson is your player.
He's always been my player. He's always been my player. Yes, I'm a Raven. The Eagles are your football team. Okay, our Jackson is my player. I don't know Lamar Jackson
He's always been my play. Yes. I'm a Raven Eagles on my team. Yeah, you have since haven't moved to the Raven Wow Yeah, I had the NFL. I like what the Eagles have done
My soul, but yeah, it's understandable
He moved around but he's still the same
Yeah, I'm watching but I can't I'm a watch but I just I ain't gonna be invested angle be rushing home today
I ain't gonna be somewhere like this. It's also they made no more fucking move. No, they ain't do shit
Biggs back which was great on defense. They got Deans back. They got a gift seed. He's going to have it over there like this
is. Nah. I ain't going to be doing
that. I'm going to be looking at it. Okay, we up 14.
Put a little closer.
I'm going to be watching the Ravens like
this. I want to see what
Derrick Henry and Lamar are going to do now.
We got former Cowboys fan,
current Ravens fan, K.A. Martin
back in the building.
How did that happen?
Yeah, because he wanted to go to
Dallas and they didn't sign him.
Titans let him go.
How? They didn't want to
pay him.
How does that happen?
Somebody like him, right?
That bad year he had, he had him.
Somebody like him.
He wanted out.
They didn't want to pay him, he wanted out. He they didn't want to pay him he wanted out he was like get me out of here as the best running back in the league that's like when
davante adams left greenback you're like what the hell were y'all thinking how but how y'all let him
like what the fuck he's the best receiver in nfl like what the hell is going on out here what okay
what position do they actually value quarterback yeahback. Quarterback. Yeah. And they didn't have a quarterback.
Quarterback left tackle.
Yeah, it's any hill.
So if you don't have a good quarterback,
then you're running back the...
No, then they're just going to put eight in the box.
Yeah, because they stopped the run.
If your quarterback's shit,
then they're going to make him throw.
That's all.
That's why Shaquille Barkley was struggling in New England.
I mean, the Giants,
because they can't throw the ball.
Mm-hmm. Put eight in the box. Let me see you run on eight. New England, I mean you uh the Giants because they came through the ball
In the box now you can let me see you run away
consistently And Dan you to throw that muff. Oh, I was gonna be different this year though. There can't remind go for 2000
Oh, you know him all Lamar wondering are they gonna be fake?
Behind behind Philly.
Oh, no.
Kansas City.
They're not coming in favorite.
Yes, they are.
Kansas City Chiefs are still the favorite.
Is that a fact?
As long as 15 still putting on that red jersey.
Nah.
Because they wasn't favorite last year.
They went into Baltimore and won on the road last year.
They did.
And Baltimore was killing it all year. So, therefore still the favorite Yeah, Chiefs Chiefs are the favorite Niners Ravens. I believe Niners Ravens. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, okay, Eagles. Okay. Yes. We are all ball show now long as 15 putting on their jersey, bro
Mm-hmm, and they get to the place
He's not losing in big games. So we got to watch football players talk basketball
So we don't start first of all, man. We got to watch football players talk basketball. So we're going to start talking.
First of all, man, we're well equipped to talk this game.
Okay.
We do whatever we want.
No, honestly, though, I do watch more football than I do basketball.
I can't stand watching bad basketball.
I love football.
I don't watch a lot of basketball games.
I watch certain teams play.
There are certain teams over the last few years I have not tuned in to watch,
and I will not.
I know how to quit.
It's bad basketball.
I'm not going to watch it.
But you can't tell the fans that we're out of Cleveland.
I know how to get a hit and quit.
If they're playing another one of the teams that I like watching,
then I will watch them.
But if their game is on and they're playing another bad team,
that's the only game on after an hour?
Two teams that you don't like playing?
Oh, I'm not tuning in.
You can't.
Boycott.
Yeah, it's bad.
I'm saying.
We keep it real here.
Or if that bad basketball game on is a football game on,
I'm going to watch the football game.
For sure.
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Keep Gills Arena flourishing. But here's what's cracking
in the arena today. Lakers didn't make any
major additions to the roster this offseason.
Damn. Here we go again.
Who, Brownie?
Yeah.
That's all we needed.
I thought we were talking about basketball.
That is. The Lakers is basketball.
They didn't make any major additions to the roster this offseason.
What a realistic expectation for the Purple and Gold
and J.J. Reddick's first season as head coach.
Warriors missed out on a trade for Laurie Marketing
to help strengthen their roster,
but have they done enough this offseason to keep Steph happy?
Or will he be a future Laker like we all hope?
And Team USA won their fifth straight gold medal
this weekend with the LA Olympics
four years away. Which players are locks to make
the squad in 2028?
And who will be the leader of this team?
It will be that man in the middle.
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That's what the people want.
The last thing we should be talking about is the goddamn Lakers. A lot of the teams made much more important moves than contention or the championship.
God damn.
That we could be spending our quality time speaking on.
This is true.
And when they get LeBron on their roster, we will talk about those.
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They did win a championship
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What championship?
Mid-season.
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So we're going to talk basketball.
So after the Netherlands took gold in three-on-three at the Olympics,
Big Three founder Ice Cube offered them an invitation
to take on the Big Three All-Stars
during their championship weekend in Boston
with a prize of $250,000 if
Netherlands won the game. Dutch squad accepted the offer but then
FIBA, the international governing body for basketball, stepped in and shut it
down. First Cube went at FIBA on Twitter saying, quote, politicians like FIBA
shouldn't be over sports especially if they're scary little bitches. Damn. Yay, yay. Yay, yay.
And then in an interview with Rachel Demita during Big 3 games this past weekend,
Q broke down what happened.
Well, to their credit, they accepted the challenge, but it's FIBA.
FIBA is scared of the Big 3,
so FIBA is preventing them from playing in our All-Star game.
So don't look like it's going to happen because of that.
You know, it sucks when politicians get in the way of sports and fandom.
We'll play them anywhere they want to play, any rules they want to play with.
We still think we got the best three on three players in the world.
I agree.
FIBA.
D'Amena did some investigating and located a rejection letter FIBA. Demetra did some investigating and
located a rejection letter FIBA sent to one of
the Netherlands players saying any
request for an exhibition game like this needs to be
made at least three weeks prior to the
intended start date of the event. In the letter, FIBA
said, as the event in question is
less than ten days away, this time frame
has not been fulfilled.
So what's y'all reaction to FIBA
shutting down a potential Big three versus Olympic big three?
Well, Q should have just pushed the shit back three weeks
if he really wanted it to happen.
Don't make them out to be the bad guys.
Right, let's just push them back.
That's the rules.
Rules are meant to be broken.
They are, but my thing, okay, I get him on the court.
Cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I'm with him.
Yeah, let's play him.
But yeah, let's say three weeks, then let's...
Did they tell Cube three weeks before he responded?
Before he called them little bitches?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
See, that's what we got to find out.
Most likely he got the rejection, then he commentated,
and then...
Then they released him three weeks.
Then they give him why.
Scary little bitches.
Yeah, I think...
So he sent the offer, like, August 4th or 5th after the three-on-three competition ended
They accepted and then I think FIBA came in and squashed it. So yeah, but I mean but this the reason they rejected it
That's what I said that might not even do it. They can still do it. They can do it today and like submit it today
Yeah, I should have pushed back
Three season will be over. I think he was trying to do with the championship all-star weekend coming up this one understand
But it's still a bit spectacle. You still be a
Still a single event
Yeah, right you have it somewhere where you got a decent fan, but you haven't fucking New York City wherever the case
May be where they respect basketball had a shit at Rucker
Do this or go to another or go to the Netherlands and do it.
For sure.
Do it at the Players Club.
Now you just got to figure out which three going to be playing.
Or which five.
For who? For the big three?
Oh, that's an easy
choice. I mean,
Joe Johnson, Michael B.
Michael B.
Briscoe.
Crawford. Craw Beasley. Briscoe. Briscoe.
Crawford.
Crawford and...
T.
No, the brothers.
Not...
Pargo.
Pargo.
You don't need Pargo if you got Briscoe.
But I'm saying, it's still one-on-one and them boys, hey.
You need a big, though.
You got Michael Beasley.
You got Michael Beasley, Joe Johnson.
6'10", and rebound.
He just had 36 and 15 in a three-on-three game this past weekend.
He ain't going to sub his ass out either.
Right.
He had 36 and 15 in a three.
They're going to 50.
Shit, him and Joe Johnson, that's it right there, to be honest.
And you got them other animals out, Briscoe and Crawford and Pargo.
Yeah, they said they got another young boy that played the Reeds company that's like that, too.
And they got some hoopers coming in there.
We got some big three champions here on this couch.
So you guys are very versed in the big three.
Why are you not?
Big three MVP, too, if I'm not mistaken.
Just basic.
We put a Gills Arena crew together.
I was out there
getting them folks here mm-hmm and I was talking cash shit yeah all that fur before
you to get I had a listen man so mad at me I was hurt I told my hamstring so I
couldn't play man him out but he was out there listen though destroying them
folks and I was talking shit.
I was just looking at that trophy today,
this morning.
And I just kept telling one thing.
Yo, the whole time.
I'm like, y'all want me to shut up, then beat us.
Yeah, just beat us. Right? Beat us.
And I shut up. I don't have nothing else to say. Once we lose,
I shut up.
Well, unfortunately for them,
we didn't lose. Did not happen. So, 10-0, damn it. And it ain't gonna happen again, like you up. Well, unfortunately for them, we didn't lose. Did not happen.
So, 10-0, damn it. And it ain't
going to happen again, like you said. They tried.
They tried. Nobody's going to go 10-0 in that
shit, man. Perfect
seed. Okay, look at y'all.
The gold standard for the big three. Why not?
Fuck it. They get it right. If they get it right, they can do
it right. But, I mean, I don't think the business
is going to ever get right over there.
The business. The business is not going to get right. Players right players always I think even more players will come once to imagine it
I just have a question. I've had this question is the big three started. All right
If you have a new professional
basketball league
Who you think you need to have in some of the positions to make this basketball league successful?
Basketball.
Maybe some basketball people that know something about basketball.
You got Clyde up there.
Like I said, you need to have somebody up in the positions
that fucking got something to say that knows something about basketball.
Clyde over there, motherfucker motherfucker just agreeing with everything.
I think the real problem was
it's more
Jeff than it is
Cube.
That's why I want you to read the comment.
I was trying to.
They took it down.
Can we put the
Cube tweet back up?
He's the one that people don't want to deal with.
I'm like, yeah, that's Jeff
Unfortunately, so unfortunately, it isn't true in three on three. We challenge the gold medal winners from Netherlands They accepted then FIBA stepped in and threatened kicking them out of the Euro Cup and suspending them for playing a friendly against us
What are they afraid of?
And then I started to call like we're just like you your background is music your background is music deals, and that's your background.
Concerts and music and putting on events.
You're great at your profession.
Absolutely.
Right?
This is a different profession.
Yeah, it's basketball.
It's sports.
So you need to have somebody that's in front of you.
That's a resource.
That's a resource deal, right?
So teaching you the business of basketball itself is not the same company.
Not at all.
You can't treat it the same.
Definitely not. Right? and that becomes a problem just come in out be it and yeah
But anybody this by coming in and build relationships man, I should that's the most thing is relationship relationship
We don't like if people don't like you and I go you mess up one relationship that that that person right there
Might be tied to this, this, this, this, this. So you say, fuck you.
It's fuck you to them, too.
Because all it is is email away.
All it is is email away.
Yep.
Right?
He's a part of it.
All right, I'm cool.
If he comes across your desk, this is the thing.
It's like, ah, we're going to put you.
Like, no.
But it's unfortunate, man.
Because this first started, like, it was built on something.
And it just, certain things and certain aspects of it got in the way. And from my standpoint, it was not listening to the guys who've done it for ever.
Right.
I love.
Yeah.
I'm 15 years in coming into the big three.
J.O.
16, 17 years.
Al.
We got guys that put Rashad.
We got guys that in Coutinho.
Guys that put in longevity
in the league.
We've been in locker rooms, been in
negotiations, been in front office meetings,
been around basketball.
So if we're telling you
this is the things that help
teams be successful in the NBA,
why wouldn't
y'all try to implement a fraction
of what we're telling you?
A fraction. We ain't got to, because you try not implement a fraction of what we're telling you? A fraction.
We ain't got to, because you're trying not to beat NBA, we get it.
But implement a fraction of what we're telling you.
And I guarantee this thing would have been successful.
Guaranteed.
We needed to get away from the TV show format and get into the league format.
We wasn't in no league format.
We was in the TV show format. We wasn't in no league format. We was in the TV show format
We wasn't getting paid no salaries from getting paid on game-to-game basis
So there was no real security for the for the players to really like go out there and invest into it
Yeah, right
But then we did implement us getting like
Forefathered into the big three if they sold it off or anything like that
We had to go fight for that.
We had to go get that shit.
So like the way everything panned out, it's just the main guys who were drawing most of the people,
the big names like Kenyon, all of them, it just became, you know,
exhausting trying to deal with what's not going the way the players needed to go.
Even selling the big three, you guys get paid for that, right?
We would.
The loophole has already been established.
Yeah, yeah.
Sell individual teams, right?
You sell individual teams, right?
That's not selling the big three itself.
You don't got loopholes.
Yeah, you just sell all of it.
Oh, yeah, we already thought about it already.
It's all been
because when i got there when i got there i was because i was i already started so if you ever
look online there's two enemies pages right remember you started yeah we already had a page
already had our mascot right so i was already coming in as an individual entity right this is
we don't we associate with you but
we're on theme and that was trilogy when we were yeah that's where i got it from like that was
truly it's a movement right like we can move as our own we can do our own thing absolutely right
we we have our own trainer so you know you got other players coming to our locker room we had
our own everything coming in there doing we have our own locker room we got like you know what i
mean so we was acting as our own business.
Hey, you should sell individual teams.
Right?
We didn't, you know, at the time there was no price for it,
but it should be a thing that you should think about,
selling the teams individually.
Yeah.
Because at the end of the day, we have to create our own travel schedule.
We have to create our own practices with our own group.
Yeah.
You know, keeping it like we're all over the place and then we got to try to
figure out a practice when we get there I don't like that idea that's what we
were so we were sold on the fact that it was a players league and we would be
able to advertise and basically have our own team it will be a king in an ounce
team to do what they wanted to do with the team so if they wanted to bring in
like mellow to be the advertiser I wanted to have a viola to be just for us though not the big three yeah this is us bringing in advertisers
and we get to bring that to the court it's live on tv everybody get to see it yeah that's
the dope part that we thought we was going to be able to do and it was that's what turned a lot of
players off because we some of us as entrepreneurs we want want to, you know, we got business. Yeah, but it was more Jeff.
It seemed like they didn't know.
Before they started Accolade, they didn't know what they really had.
They didn't.
Right?
So they were trying to hold on to all of it until it just made sense.
Yeah.
That's what it seemed like when I was there.
Yeah, we was the first one.
We had people arranging.
I'll make sure our flights was on time.
Everybody else's flights were jacked up at times.
I had somebody there. We had a make sure our flights was on time. Like, everybody else's flights was jacked up at time. I had somebody there.
We had a team manager.
We had a trainer.
We had a chiropractor that was stretching people.
I had another trainer there.
Like, no, we were, you know what I'm saying?
And that's, that was the thing.
Like, we was eating.
I made sure we ate breakfast together.
Like, we had a team meal together.
Like, so it was in the set.
I wasn't asking that this was things in order for us to be successful.
Just normally doing.
Normal stuff.
This is how we were successful in the league,
so these are the things that we're going to implement.
We talked about the game plan, what we're going to potentially do tonight,
who we're going to be getting.
Yeah, who's guarding, who's going in.
I was even looking at teams.
I mean, where you stay?
You stay in Dallas.
How are we supposed to practice? How are we supposed to get better and get used to? You know like I mean where you stay you stay in Dallas yeah we
supposed to practice yeah we supposed to get better and get used to and I mean so
if you looked at the team most of my players was here yeah we can practice
you know like even like yeah I had training camp yeah smart that's right
like she's gonna shake me I just picked certified killed you already I knew what
they was gonna be was already playing, yeah.
Shod, Al, James White, and I picked Deion because Glove was there for team right.
Right, right.
Like, we didn't expect Glove to play.
Even when the game, Glove made a big-ass shot.
Big shot.
Big shots one game.
We needed him.
Couldn't move that middle, but one game we needed him.
We gave him a couple shots. They weren't gardening.
Yeah, yeah.
Knocking that beef.
Yeah.
So, you know what I'm saying? Give me a breather, big fella. Come on over beef. You know what I'm saying?
Give me a breather, big fella.
Come on over here.
You got to put that shit together.
You give me the opportunity to put a fucking team together.
What it is.
Two on two, three on three, four on four, five.
Hey, we're going to compete.
I'm going to put some shit on the floor.
Well, Ken, speaking of putting the team together,
Team USA took home gold in both the men's and women's five-on-five side,
struggled in three-on-three, finishing seventh out of eight teams.
Damn.
So we already discussed some of the hurdles that make it difficult for the USA
to field a competitive three-on-three squad with current NBA players.
But if you could assemble an American three-on-three squad
with current NBA players for the next Olympics, who are you picking?
It doesn't necessarily even need to be current players.
Like, you want to put Beasley in there.
Oh, yeah, Michael Beasley.
I can't knock it.
But four years down the road.
Current NBA player.
Yeah, current or guys you think could help us dominate.
If he's saying current, it's going to be Joe and Beas.
Okay.
I think.
I go Trae Young.
Mm-hmm.
Ooh.
I go Trae.
I'll go...
I'll take Ingram.
Brandon Ingram.
Okay.
I'll go Zion.
Um...
Shit, I don't mind Bradley Beal.
See, I'm thinking Darren Fox.
He playing small spaces.
Fast, quick.
You got to think.
It ain't here.
You get five, right?
You get five, right?
Three and two subs, right?
Yeah.
So I'm thinking.
Darren Fox.
They just need one more big.
Do you think?
You get three a sub and then an injury replacement. Yeah. So five total. Yeah, so I'm thinking Dan Fox's you they just need one more be do you think?
Yeah, so yeah, so you get five total but only four can suit up for suit up this old
So trees, but you think the air Fox will be on the the 505 squad shit, I'm going with Dame. I'm going Dame, PG, AD, AD.
But those are Olympians. I'm being somebody who can realistically not be on the USA team.
Okay, now that's what I was trying to figure out. What are my choices?
The guys who's not, who can't be. Okay, so I'll go Donovan Mitchell.
You know that he could be on the Olympic squad keep going. I think
Well Donovan Mitchell Dame Lillard
Not Olympians I
Go Andre Drummond. Oh no for my big and
then
What I said PG Dame
So I
Got I'm ready. I'm ready. Go ahead Brunson. I
Got for sure I gotta have Brunson all
Shit like three one. You'll think you'll be on the Olympic squad. Oh, I got for sure I got a half brunch at all. Shit like three, one on one.
You don't think he'll be on the Olympic squad?
I got Darren Fox, 28, Jimmy Butler, Jaron Jackson.
Okay.
And my fourth, give me shit.
I'm going to go Kyrie Irving.
I was waiting for Kyrie. I'm taking James Harden in my fourth. Yeah, I'm going Kyrie Irving.
I was waiting for Kyrie.
Yeah, I've been seeing videos of James cooking in this summer, still doing his thing with
the videos.
Dane, PG, James, Andre Drummond, and-
Yeah, and then my-
Andre Drummond.
And then I'm going to go PG, so we can take five, so I can suit up anybody I want to.
Mm-hmm.
Producer wants you to know Drummond will be 35 by the time the next Olympics come.
I'm going to go Paul George. No, but there ain't no other bigs that I like I want to. Producer wants you to know Drummond will be 35 by the time the next Olympics come.
I'm going to go Paul George.
I'm going to go Paul George.
There ain't no other bigs that I like.
Zion Williams.
I'm going to go Paul George.
He's not big to me.
Zion in three on three?
Nah.
Think about when that little drop passer, he one bounce.
There's nobody back there.
I need a defender.
There's nobody back there.
Zion!
I got Drummond.
You got it.
I got a rebounder bucket.
But he's a liability. But he's a liability on picker. He's not going to move back and forth. I got a rebounder bucket. He's a liability. He's a liability on people
He's not gonna move back and forth can't play because you know, you know this listen
Hey, it ain't no stopping it bro. Oh when they score you get that bitch out
There's no there's no there's no it's not like big three where they scored out of the ref
I know they take you run you gotta run you know, I score I just pass it he can shoot. Yeah
Yeah, I didn't know that he can shoot. Yeah. Yeah
He a liability. He's a lot better. That's why I go Jerry
Jerry Jerry, I mean this game is disgusting. I hate it, but in the net this guy's yo, he's effective
This I hate listen. I just shit there. I dropped drumming and I'll pick up single. I need I need sense I mean, he's not even from the country so we need a better
Damn, I'm going I'll take it. I'll take it. No I need I need saying he's not even from the country so we need a little damn
I'm going I'll take it. I'll take it. No
He might be on it he might be on the big squad and we're gonna talk about that later in the show
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
I'm not mad. That's what I'm not mad at that. Bo Bo! Ash, I'm not mad. That's what I said. I'm not mad at that.
I go Bo Bo and Chet.
That's my four five.
If you go Bo Bo, you getting go go.
Bo Bo and Chet and my four five.
You getting that go go with Bo Bo.
Yeah, no.
So, Darren Fox, Jimmy Butler, Jaren Jackson, PG, and Scottie Barnes.
Scottie Barnes type?
I mean, there's a little Scottie Barnes type.
Yes.
You like Scottie Barnes in 303? He do it all. Yeah, because he can do it all. Scotty Barnes type. I mean, there's a little Scotty Barnes type. Yes.
You like Scotty Barnes in 3-0-3?
He do it all. Yeah, because he can do it all.
He do it all.
Because you can put him, like if your guards get hurt, you can put him at the point.
He can play point.
Yeah, he do it all.
Do the pick and roll.
He can do all of it.
You need a hybrid like that.
But when you look at those type of games, that point guard, the guy who has the ball the most,
he better be able to shoot.
For sure.
That's why I like Trae Young.
I like Trae Young or Brunson.
Dave can shoot that bitch from the floor.
I'm going to take Jimmy Bell and put KJ.
Put KJ on there?
That's what I said.
That pick and roll, that bounce, the motherfucker jump,
there's nobody back there.
There's nobody back there to do it.
They don't have athleticism.
There ain't no athleticism.
I got Bobo and Chet back there.
I got Bobo and Chet back there. KJ shooting that bitch right now. I ain't even going to. I got Bobo and shit back there. I got Bobo and shit back there.
KJ's shooting that bitch right now.
I ain't even up.
Listen, dog.
Okay.
I think Zion's my first pick.
Here or there?
One of them or one of them?
Let's keep things moving.
Are we coming off that?
So NBA will be releasing the entire schedule for this upcoming season on Thursday,
but key games have already started leaking,
including opening night on October 22nd, which will feature doubleheader, Knicks and Celtics with the defending champions doing their ring night, followed by Ant-Man and
the Wolves pulling up to LA to take on LeBron, Bronny, and the Lakers in J.J. Reddick's head
coaching debut.
Good entryway to start this season
with these four squads playing together.
Wait, let me see that.
No.
This is the beginning of the season?
This is the season opener.
Doubleheader, October 22nd.
Those are good games.
I don't know why the Lakers are up there.
Exactly.
I mean, I know why the Lakers are up there.
So why the Dallas Mavericks not playing?
That's nasty.
Go back up there.
Keep it up there, please.
So why the Dallas Mavericks that made it toicks not playing the opening night? That's nasty. Go back up there. Keep it up there, please. So why the Dallas Mavericks that made it to the championship not playing the opening night?
That's nasty.
And why Denver not up there?
And the team that they played in the playoffs, the Timberwolves that they beat.
Come on, let's stop this shit.
Like, if I'm going to do opening night, right, I will say, why is Celtics playing the Knicks?
They didn't play each other.
That wasn't even a real, like, give us a preview of, all right, Celtics versus Timberwolves, right?
Because everybody thought Ant-Man would have done a better job.
Yep, yep.
Or Denver versus Celtics.
Someone that it would have happened, like, people, like, we see them beat through Dallas,
and everybody's like, well, Timberwolves would have had a better game.
That's the matchup you put at the beginning.
Knicks versus Philadelphia.
Yep.
Facts.
Dope game.
That's a crazy game.
That's a crazy game.
We already know.
You put that motherfucker in Philly or whatever, it's going to be bananas because they are a rival now.
But in Philly, the way the Knicks.
Like, Knicks and Celtics, that's a rival, but today.
Major markets, though, with those two.
But today, the Philadelphia versus the Knicks,
what happened in the playoffs is a real thing.
How they cheered for the Knicks in Philly,
PG debut, like everybody's saying.
Come on, man.
I think they're a game in there, too.
Throw that Indiana, the Pacers, Bucs.
Like Lakers, Timberwolves there
That's not there's no this there's nothing. There's nothing there. That's not a rival
That is not this Bronny is a Bronny showcase day, but it is Bronny's debut Rashad is your point
It's still but what I'm saying is there's no there's no excitement about these two teams playing
There's no it there's no I know a Ant-Man not gonna let that shit go over
too well if Bronny get in the game. But he won't get in the game unless there's a blowout.
He'll get in the game. It's a blowout.
For you guys, what is the league letting the Timberwolves play on opening night with Ant-Man?
Does that say anything to y'all about just how they're pumping them?
Sure, it's game. It's just wrong team.
I'm saying them pushing them, man. Hey, this is just, I just want to ask the question is,
when they be thinking about opening nights
and they be thinking about certain games,
what goes inside of their brains on matchups?
We just gave them better matchups for viewership.
And they fans of the game. Like, we... Fans of the game.
Like, we're fans of the game now.
When somebody's like, yeah, you know, we need Timberwolves.
Who can they play? Lakers.
Memphis versus Sacramento.
Ooh!
John Moran versus
motherfuckers DeMar DeRozan and them boys
over there. If you're going to put Timberwolves, you're better off
saying Timberwolves versus Celtics.
Timberwolves versus Suns. Right?'s Nuggets Nuggets Mavericks
Nuggets Timberwolves like since they already got it though since they already got it soon
Mavs Mavs, I wouldn't mind
Clippers at the Lakers. Lakers at the Clippers.
That's always a great matchup.
Lakers at the Clippers.
Opening day.
Opening the new arena.
That's always a great matchup.
That's always a great matchup. Lakers versus the matchup.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't agree with that.
So we asked the chat, did the NBA pick the right games for opening night?
65% say no.
Okay, chat.
Well, look.
The NBA do what they do.
They know.
They understand what they wanted.
So, Shams also dropped
the Christmas game schedule
as well.
So, Christmas slate
features five games.
Spurs at the Knicks.
Wolves at Mavs.
Can we see it?
Sixers at Celtics.
It's coming right now, Gil.
Just hold it up there
for a while.
Spurs at Knicks.
Okay, y'all,
real hostile today
for our August show.
Timberwolves at Celtics
Lakers at Warriors
Nuggets at Suns
So of this five game slate
Which one of those games are y'all looking the most forward to?
I know you're okay
I know but we got 200 people
Sixers at Celtics
Timberwolves at Mavs
Those two
Two and three
Two and three.
Two and three gonna be crazy.
Two of the marquee games. I'm excited to see Wimby in the Garden too. Bob will be entertaining
too. Yeah. The fuck does Spurs
and Knicks got? Victor
Wimby and your man. Did Russ go to
the Nuggets already? Yeah. He's already there.
That's it right there. Nuggets
Nuggets sign. Yeah. Why is that there. That's it right there. Nuggets, Nuggets, Suns. Yeah.
Why is that the last game?
Because it's on the West Coast.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For the timeline.
But just so we see the five-game slate here,
the ten teams playing,
which team stars
should be playing
on Christmas that aren't?
Any squad you would have
liked to see on Christmas Day?
You said stars?
Yeah.
Maybe Luka is the only, Luka and Kyrie?
No, but I'm saying, they're playing the Mavs, but...
Oh damn, I didn't even...
Somebody like a Ja...
Space that shit right out.
Yeah, I would see Ja.
I'd skip right over that game.
Ja or Zion versus Zion.
I'm telling you, this is...
I'd definitely skip right over that.
This is...
I know it's kind of impossible to do, but there should always always be if it's a five game. It should always be for guaranteed and
then there should be a floating two teams because
The record there might be a team naggy job might be on a heater by the time
Yeah, you know this comes up, but you might want to say all right Knicks versus or does the Knicks versus?
Grizzlies or Grizzlies,
or Grizzlies versus Spurs.
You have to have room for how the season is going
to put two teams that's just possibly on fire at that point.
There might be Knicks and Spurs, not saying any,
there might be motherfucking 0-12 versus 0-15.
You'd be like, man, fuck these two teams.
But what I'm saying is you don't want that on Christmas Day,
so you have to be able to
move and pull some of these teams
apart. They just said,
fuck the Knicks fans.
No, the people that go to the games...
They got them up at 9 o'clock.
No, but the people that go to the games
on Christmas Day in the Garden,
right? So you make them go watch the Spurs play? in the garden, right? Mm-hmm.
So you make them go watch the Spurs play? Something like a classic game.
On Christmas Day?
Classic rivalry game for Christmas.
That's what I'm saying.
The Spurs?
The Spurs.
But you're not excited to see Wimby in the garden?
And they might be pretty good at that time.
They might be pretty good at that time.
You're talking about a rivalry.
You're talking about Christmas game.
No, it's Christmas Day game, dawg.
Where we wake up and it's Christmas Day game.
Nah, but Dan, if you saying that, that's supposed to be Lakers-Celtics.
When you wake up at 9 o'clock, the game comes on at 9 o'clock out here.
Do you want to watch San Antonio Spurs play on Christmas?
Not the Spurs, but I want to watch Wimby.
On Christmas?
Yeah.
What if they're 2-15?
Well, guess what, Josiah?
He plays for the Spurs.
So guess what?
So look.
I'm going to watch Wimby, though. So how about this?
Well, you can watch him on the 27th, motherfucker.
Lakers versus Celtics on Christmas.
I went to a Lakers-Celtics game on Christmas.
76ers versus Knicks.
Hey, if you think about it...
Boston versus...
I mean, 76ers versus Knicks.
How about Miami, New York stars in it
Look at it all the stars on the oh, yeah, all the stars stars are about Miami versus the Knicks
How about the Heat versus the Knicks in the garden of boring when it come to that?
But still it's the rivalry right is it's a robbery there's my fans in Miami
I mean, there's a good it's not gonna be entertaining
If they playing bad, it's just
going to be like you're saying with Spurs.
The Knicks are supposed to be a pretty good team this year, right?
They can go in there and eat the dog shit out
of San Antonio on
goddamn Christmas. I don't know. San Antonio, you know
they got...
You wake up
with your jersey ready.
This is a matchup.
Yeah, you're not looking forward to this game.
One thing, go ahead.
Steve.
Knicks fan?
Yes.
Who would you want to play on Christmas?
That going to get you to get
to the fucking ticket date?
Pacers or Spurs?
Indiana Pacers would be
really exciting.
Boston would be good.. Victor Wimby.
Boston would be good.
Miami Heat.
Sixers.
Sixers.
Sixers would be good.
We haven't even mentioned this.
It's not even a rivalry right now, but the Milwaukee Bucks.
Well, how about, listen.
Just on a smaller, if you're going to put a lesser team,
just go put the Brooklyn Nets on the motherfucker.
There you go.
Okay, yeah, yeah. Instead of the Spurs, just put the Nets on the motherfucker Okay, yeah
Spurs just put the Nets on the motherfucker you put a bad
Whimpy as when I get a whim be thing
Really good didn't been done. Then let Spurs then let him play Dallas. Yes fair. I'm not arguing that let Texas go at it
Yeah
We also got Lakers words on the schedule current like a LeBron James future Laker Steph Curry both play on the
Just cuz after what just happened at the plane
That'll be my now that would just happen playing that that Laker versus Celtics
They're just a rival like that. That's all that's always a great
Not unless they plan back cuz no one else was playing bad for why I was that that's always a great... Nah, unless they're playing bad. Because you remember, the Celtics was playing bad for a while.
You know what I'm saying?
That's always a great
when you wake up on Christmas,
you ain't got shit to do.
If you're a Laker fan or a Boston fan,
playing against your rival is always good.
That's just a thing.
No matter what the record is,
just like two bad teams are playing,
right, in football.
Two bad teams always makes for what?
A good-ass game.
Like, this is about to be the good-ass game
because they're rivals. They hate each other.
So their bloods
turn different.
It's like Carolina Duke.
If we had it on Christmas, everybody would get up
on Christmas. Carolina Duke, no matter what their record is,
no matter what the record is, it's going to be, oh, shit.
Even if one is number one and the other one's not even, it's going to be a good game.
It's going to go down to the wire, which makes it great.
It's never like crazy.
In the history of it, it's never been crazy blowouts.
It's always a good game.
So let's talk about another game on the schedule.
So after a difference from the Clippers for the Sixers this offseason,
Paul George makes his return to L.A. on November 6thth take on the Clips in their new arena the Intuit down
So what will be PG November 6 November 6?
Will be PG's role with the Sixers this season
When does this is a 22nd?
To about two weeks. Man, school. I don't like that. Same shit.
I don't like that.
Like, let the motherfucker get his rhythm in before he come back to the city.
He got two weeks.
He got 15 days.
Get right.
Just not getting in shape.
Just not getting in game shape.
Yo, you just not getting in shape November 6th, season starts the 22nd, October.
You just not getting in real. Like, you just not getting your legs up under you.
Like real game legs up under you.
You ain't even like enjoy the team you have now before the old one come back.
You don't really- People start fucking booing you.
Yeah, you don't even have none yet.
So can you set PG's role with this Sixers squad?
There's no different.
No different than it has been anywhere he's been.
He didn't need him to score.
Will it be easier for him with the Sixers squad with Tyrese Maxine and B than it has been?
He gets to play one-on-one, man.
He's a great one-on-one basketball player.
There's no possible situation where you can double-team him
with Tyrese and Joel on the floor.
So, yeah, no, he gets to play one-on-one man get the spot up shoot still can defend with the best of my belief
Yeah, nothing motivated man, so there's nothing like motivation
To shit on your former employer. Always fun. So, yeah,
I'm expecting big things
from PG and the Sixers
this year.
For sure.
And then,
Gil and Shaw,
I'll say all over there,
key keen and do whatever
y'all doing.
Key keen and shit.
Key keen and shit,
but what are your
expectations for a healthy
Sixers squad this season?
If they can stay healthy,
what do you think
the Sixers will be able
to do in this tough
Eastern Conference?
Showcase some of the talent they got over there, like Youngfella.
I think it'll be an opportunity with good team success for Nick Nurse to go in to his bag and
his roster and really try to formulate things that he didn't have down the stretch, which was a bench.
You know, Joel, he do what he do now
You know you got to figure out whether you're gonna depend on him long that long term down the stretch of the season or you
Gonna have a backup contingency plan. I don't think he put that in
Picking up the pieces that they did I think gives
KJ Massey PG some some wiggle room to actually showcase that they can really be a playoff
contending team and take it a little step further. I think just maximizing all of the
talent on the roster is important for Nick Nurse because trying to take the Thibodeau
route is only going to work if you got guys that are going out there that's going to play
hard 100% of the time and not worried about minutes and all that kind of other shit. So it's a good opportunity for
Philly.
Good. If Embiid, PG, and that squad can stay healthy, what's the picture ceiling?
Which hasn't happened yet.
We got to be hopeful and optimistic.
I mean, it should be really good because just if Joel Embiid
by himself is really good.
Right?
By himself,
he's a third seed.
So,
he's going to be
very dominant with,
you know,
a better supporting cast.
The only question
I would like to ask
and it should be
he should really be thinking about this Olympic
experience where you have so many talented players on your team and you
couldn't play the way you're used to playing for the betterment of the team
and the fact that he has Paul George and he has Maxie.
I'll read the roster to you.
So Paul George, Maxie, obviously KJ on there.
They got Kelly Oubre, Jerry McCain.
They're Ricky coming in, but they got Eric Gordon, Kyle Lowry, Reggie Jackson.
Kyle Lowry.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, they went and got some vets.
They got four.
Four PGs.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Reggie, Kyle, Maxie.
So they're going to play a lot of small ball
Figuring I got uber a they got who was
Caleb Martin Caleb Martin. Oh they can move around up there. Yeah, so but
Andre drumming is he gonna is he gonna understand that?
Your style might have to adjust just a little bit.
Yeah.
And think about like, you know what I mean, sometimes when you play with a whole
bunch of superstars and you uncomfortable because niggas just sitting there doing this,
back cutting, and you ain't used to making those passes, now you got to sit down and
watch other people play the right way.
Is that going to...
Do you anticipate a B having to sacrifice some of his scoring
for the betterment of this squad?
Oh, no, no.
Or make it easier?
Think about it.
I don't think sacrifice his scoring.
I think how long he holds the ball should change.
Right?
I think he needs to make quicker moves,
either go into your shit early or get off of it.
I don't think you should be sitting there pump faking,
jabbing, and everybody just sitting there.
I think, you know what I mean?
You need to just hurry up and get to it.
Like, I'm getting on the block. I'm going to hurry
and go ahead. If not, I'm going to pass and make these
back doors. But if you're sitting there the same way you've been
doing 16 seconds and shit
like that, you're not going to get nowhere,
man. What you mean? It not going to get nowhere, man.
What you mean?
It's going to get them 35 and 12.
Yeah, 35 and 12, you're going to be out in the first round. But the only difference is Tobias Harris and this PG.
We need PG to be a better version of Tobias Harris.
Everything else can stay the same.
It can.
It can.
Because PG, when he gets it, he needs to do his thing.
There's only a few seconds left to do his thing.
Tobias Harris says, I don't put the ball on the ground.
And shoot.
PG proved if anything in L.A. that he can catch and shoot.
I can catch and shoot.
He can get off the ball.
But what I'm saying, I can't.
We all can catch and shoot.
But he learned to get off the ball.
But do we do that all the time?
Right?
James Harden can catch and shoot shoot but that's not his that's
not what makes him great but think about pg in this position him catching and shooting is a better
fit for him because you got a big man that's passing out of a double team and then clippers
it wasn't like that so everybody was trying to figure out how to get their shit off him and
maxi at the top of the key and pick and roll situations it's all gonna be situational now
it's not gonna be no one-on-one i I got it over here, unless the play breaks down.
Play break down, you got five on the second,
on the shot clock, do your thing, PG.
Do your thing, Maxie.
Everything else, go back to what we was doing.
It ain't broke.
It ain't broke.
It's been broke for six years.
It ain't won nothing.
The boss here is broken.
Now we got a nigga that's worth the money,
but we gonna go in here and we gonna fucking as PG
PG can't afford to go to Philly and not fucking perform
You know, he got it. You don't think there's a problem when your man averages 32 MVP every year
You can't get past the second round. I need my help. You've had every you've had
Everything that you possibly need not at this development of his career at the peak of 35 points a game
He didn't have no
jimmy butler he didn't have those pieces you're gonna reference right now that he needed then he
needed them now but if he's don't have it but if he's averaging 35 that means he don't have jimmy
butler on his team because if he had to buy his hair if you have jimmy butler on his team he's
not averaging 35 but you can't average 35 with another nigga on your team like that tobias harris
was on his team yes but now but now you have Paul George. So
the fact that you're going to average 35, think about
how you have to play the game.
Exactly, but the 30 he's going to average
is going to be just as meaningful as the 35
because you got PG, you're giving an extra 5 points to him.
He's going to average more assists.
Yeah, it's going to balance out.
He was trending that way last year.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But that's why I was saying that it needs to be
a faster play for him.
Like, I'm going to score.
I'm going to get off of it.
5.6.
I'm going to score.
I'm going to get off of it.
Career high.
He can damn near,
I mean, with the team he has,
he can fuck around
average 10 assists.
Get close to it.
If they force him to.
He was 5.6.
Don't you got to be forced
to pass the ball?
This year.
Right?
No.
Easily. You got to be forced. Play with a faster tempo. Force you got to be forced to pass the ball? Meet this year. Right? No. Easily.
Right?
You got to be forced.
Play with a faster tempo.
Force?
If they force you to pass the ball and get off of it faster like you're saying, that's a thing.
I get it.
But if they not doing that, they letting Joel do his thing, why would we change that?
Because you can't win it.
You can't win it.
Because we haven't had the pieces to win.
Nobody forces Joker to pass.
He just passes.
They not not winning because of him.
Nigga, you open.
They not not winning because of him. Nigga, you open. They not not winning because of him.
Yeah, you got her.
They not winning because they don't got the pieces to win.
You know what?
No, they all. They ain't winning because he ain't been healthy when it's time to win.
Yeah, 39 games.
But when he is healthy, remember, he is the most dominant player,
which he feels he needs to do it all himself,
so it's easier to load up on him.
When he plays Boston, they just load up on him when he plays boston they just they just
load up on him and we say if you're going to beat us have 20 assists he ain't doing that who's a
better team in new york or philadelphia without their star players who's a better team yes without
their star players yes so let's say you're saying new york without rall, and you're saying Philly without Embiid. Who's a better team?
New York.
New York by far, right?
So Philly without Embiid, they need a better team.
They got PG now.
It changes everything for them.
It changes everything for them.
Picking PG instead of Tobias Harris is what separates Philly from everything.
And PG is going to pick up that slack, and Emb and B is going to get 32-30 a game still.
But the difference is, one, they play together.
Who?
New York.
New York.
They use each other.
They steal without their thorn.
What I'm saying is, they use each other better
than a Philly does.
That's what I'm saying.
As long as he realizes what he has
and he uses it to the best of his ability like
He can average 10 assists because he has the pieces right? He's gonna have back doors. He's gonna have lobs
You're gonna have spot-up shooters
So even if you thinking about loading me sitting here and me just making that pass so you can shoot it that stops you from doing
That the next time to me he needs to stop it before the double plan against two and three all the time
Yeah, he needs a slap before the triples come.
What shooters was he throwing to last year?
Tobias.
Oubre.
Maxi.
That's it.
How many did you use?
Then you picked up Eric Gordon, Caleb Martin, Kyle Lowry.
These are all different caliber shooters that now can hit shots.
Things that he didn't have before, he has
now. Going to change everything.
He has to now adjust his game, of course,
but he don't have to adjust it to the point where I'm not doing
what gets me
my shit. He's going to have to play different.
I don't agree.
Not major
different, but he's going to have to get off the ball faster
though. Let's just get off the ball.
Either just scores or ball. They got to make me get off the ball. Either just scores or ball.
They got to make me get off the ball.
I'm not going to make you.
What I'm doing has gotten me 35 a game.
Why do I have to get off the ball? Because you ain't got past the second round.
It ain't because I'm scoring 35, bro.
It's because my niggas ain't coming to show up in the game.
Why would they come up if you never passed the ball to them?
I've been passing the ball the whole game.
What do you mean?
You sit here 13 seconds, and then this nigga just said, Why would you come up you never passed the ball to him? I've been passing the ball all day. What do you mean?
You sit here 13 seconds and then this nigga just sit like I ain't gonna double, I ain't gonna fully double because you ain't done nothing yet.
Cause I got 30.
And then you dribble and then I pass it and you throw him the grenade.
Obviously he's not gonna be able to shoot.
He has no rhythm.
Every three seconds, I got three seconds to chuck this bitch up there.
What?
Come on.
We know that grenade.
So now we're complaining about him, his game now?
No.
Who's complaining about it?
We're just saying.
We're saying he got to play faster.
We're just saying he got to play a little bit faster.
But why?
Because he got better players around him.
But why does he have to play faster?
Because he has better players around him.
That needs the ball as well.
It ain't just about you having.
So Tyreek.
It's not about his numbers.
It's about him being effective.
He's being effective. They paying
two other people
$200 million.
So do you think that they want to just
catch grenades all game, dog?
Whose team is it?
Yours. That ain't been working. Huh?
Yours. It's mine. Okay. Throw it to
the fucking big fella. Get the fuck out
the way. When I throw you the ball, you do fuck out the way. If I throw it to you.
When I throw you the ball, you do something with it.
Yes, that's what we're saying.
And until I throw it to you.
That's what we're saying.
I need y'all to chill the fuck out.
No, it don't work that way now.
Chill out.
No, it don't work that way.
Mello.
It don't work that way.
Mello used to have that ISO.
He's going to give you 15 seconds on it.
When his team started getting better, that 15 seconds turned into five seconds
turned when he was on olympic merlo didn't play with the ball straight shot he got to his buckets
quicker because he has better players around he didn't have time to sit there and everybody just
sitting there right he got to his bucket all we're saying is just get to your you don't have
do what you don't have you don't have a whole bunch of duds on the team where you're like, fuck all this.
Let's do this.
Shot, instead of you having the ball for 12 seconds,
let's make it six seconds.
If I'm getting 66% from the field doing what I'm doing,
why would y'all want me to do something else
that's going to change?
So instead of 12 seconds, do it for six seconds.
Yes.
Because when you start doubling me,
then I start dumping that shit off to y'all.
Everything else is let me get in the middle of the floor
and do what you well and be does.
Hey, if I'm going to work faster,
you got to double faster.
Yes.
Regardless of anything I do, fast or slow,
you got to double it anyway.
It's 66%.
If I know you're going to take 13 seconds
to take your shot,
I'm going to sit on 12 of it. 66% of the time? I'm going to your shot, I'm going to sit on 12 of it.
66% of the time?
I'm going to sit on it.
I'm going to hit 66% of that.
And then you wonder why the rest of the...
Then you're looking at Tobias here like, nigga, you can't do shit.
He got six shots.
All six of them came with three seconds left on the clock.
But Kelly Oubre can give me 19, though.
Kelly Oubre giving me what he can't.
It ain't got nothing to do with the opportunity.
This nigga can't hit.
He hitting.
It ain't jump shots Kelly Oubre making.
He making threes.
No, he's not.
This is.
No, he's not.
What did he shoot from the three?
Please tell me what Kelly Oubre shot from the three.
Oubre, give me one second.
Pretty sure he shot that bitch at a high clip.
No.
You're saying he got better players than he should do the same exact thing.
He's slashing offensive rebounds.
Kelly Oubre is a three-point shooter.
Oubre shot 31%.
31% from three. on five attempts last season.
31.
Five attempts?
Yeah, five attempts.
He only shot five threes.
Oh, wait a minute.
How many passes did you get?
Oubre shot five threes per game.
And he shot 31%.
Threes per game.
Five threes per game.
And he shot 31%.
You're talking about a high clip.
For the whole season, yes.
Oh, wait.
With the sixer shot?
How many threes?
No.
Kelly.
Kelly Oubre.
How many total did he take?
Did he shoot?
He shot 31% in however many it is.
By himself.
He's still a three-point shooter.
But what I'm saying is he just didn't shoot well.
Why can't you shoot well if we double it?
325.
325 three-point shots.
Three-point shooters have off-seasons where they don't shoot well from the three-point line.
It doesn't mean he's not a three-point shooter.
He's not a three-point shooter.
What did he shoot from the three last year? What, this past season? Or the season before that? The season before. Look at the three-point line, it doesn't mean he's not a three-point shooter. He's not a three-point shooter. What did he shoot from the three last year?
What, this past season or the season before that?
The season before.
Look at his three-point shooter.
32%.
32% before that.
35.
35.
32.
32.
35.
33.
He's not a three-point shooter.
35?
He's not a three-point shooter, Rashad.
He's a slasher and a cutter and plays in transition,
gets offensive rebounds. Okay. Who has more three-point?, Rashad. He's a slasher and a cutter and plays in transition, get offensive rebounds.
Okay.
Who has more three-point?
I watched him play every game.
I did, too.
I watched him play every game.
Who has more?
I knew that he wasn't a three-point shooter.
I knew he hit threes.
He's 31%.
Who has more three-point shooters?
Last year.
Hold on.
How many threes did he shoot?
Total?
Yes.
325.
How many KJ shoot?
Let me pull it up.
Give me one second.
Entertain yourselves while I...
Nope.
Secure that every...
I know.
So KJ shot 23.
And how...
What did he shoot?
What did he shoot?
30%.
What does that mean?
He's saying KJ ain't a three-point shooter.
Are you going to keep passing the ball at three-point shoot-line?
I'm saying he shot the same percentage.
He shot 300 threes.
He shot the same percentage as KJ.
KJ shot 23 of them.
He's not a three-point shooter.
He said he's not a three-point shooter.
He's not a three-point shooter.
Just because he shot 300 of them motherfuckers
don't mean he's a three-point shooter.
But because of the way the style is, I'm sitting here. I don't mean he's a three-point shooter. But because of the way the style is,
I'm sitting here,
I'm forcing you to be a three-point shooter.
How many threes did Kelly Oubre make, man?
He shot 30.
Like 101 or something.
He made 100 threes.
Out of 325 attempts.
He shot 31%, Rashad.
Think about...
But think about...
But think about what I'm...
But think about what you're saying.
If he shot 1,000 of them motherfuckers and only made 31%, it's still 31% of them motherfuckers.
We're both shooters.
So you know what I'm saying.
But you're not looking at how the style is played.
Let's say Oubre's not a three-point shooter, right?
And he's sitting in the corner.
And I'm sitting here 20-something seconds doing this.
And then I pass it.
They finally double.
I pass it, swing, swing.
He is forced to shoot this three every single time, even though he's not a shooter. She wants to drive
He wants to drive so if we if we can let him cut and I make him some passes like you put in a different
Position who's a better corner you put him in the wing, you know
The way he plays everybody's on the corner to and be does what he's gonna matter where you put him there Rashad
It's you 31. He's thinking hidden
Who's a bell in who has a hundred who has a better three-point shooting team Philadelphia last year or
Denver who has better three-plats your Denver do they know KTP and Michael Porter jr. Two guys
Because you just asked a question and I said yes, and then you said, yeah, two guys. How does that even make sense?
You asked a question.
Who is the better three-point shooter?
I said Denver.
You guys said two guys.
I'm like, okay, so you want me to pick the other teams,
and y'all going to say, well, one guy?
I'm just saying, if you really think about it,
who has more three-point shooting?
Who has better three-point shooting?
It looks like, why do you say Denver?
It looks like it is.
Why? It is.
Because they shoot more threes. Because the guys
who shoot threes shoot threes. The guys who
duck in, duck in. They shoot more
threes. So instead of
KCP and Michael
Porter Jr., they shoot the threes and the
guys who can't shoot, don't shoot.
See, in Philly, the guys who don't shoot
gotta shoot threes.
Why?
Because the way the game is being played.
I'm sitting here with the ball.
The same way Joker does when he's in the post.
No.
Same thing Joker did.
And then, oh shit, you double.
Pass.
Bad shot.
Right?
Yeah, that's called system.
It's a bad system.
Because the same players on the same team, Denver and Ph. It's because the same players on the same team Denver and Philly
You got the same player on the same team one team is doing cuts and moves and slashes
The other team is just facing away because their best point the best players is
They're doing off the ball doing this. They don't let you know. He don't let you double all the time the same thing
Oh, they're not doing the same thing. It's not the same style. That's what I just said
It's different at the one is the one is not One is a system. One is not. One is a lot.
It's a system.
Ping and roll.
Pop.
They're no slashers.
They're not slashers.
They're sitting in the football line.
He's going to give you the same fake three.
Go left.
Pump fake.
Pump fake.
Pass it.
Give it back.
That's what you do when you got a big man.
That's your franchise player.
Give it back to him.
But think about everybody else, though.
You're saying, nigga, you pay me $200 to do me,
but all me is sitting here waiting for me to do me.
You might as well just get back to Tobias.
Just go ahead and get Tobias.
This is what this nigga do.
Sit here and chuck threes.
Like, I don't do that.
I get to it myself.
Right?
So you get to it.
You pump fake.
You pump fake one dribble shoot.
Y'all talk about success for Embiid,
how successful he's been doing what he do.
How successful have PG been doing that?
Doing your own thing?
You haven't been.
I mean, PG.
You haven't been successful doing that.
PG and MVP.
So PG has to adjust too.
He's not MVP.
Yeah, he's going to adjust.
He's going to natural adjust.
PG has to adjust to Embiid.
Listen, you're coming from over there to over here, man.
That's how we do shit over here, man.
That's how we do shit over here, my nigga. here, man. That's how we do shit over here, man. That's how we do shit over here, my nigga.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how we do shit.
MVP, most dominant big man can't get past second round.
We're going to keep doing it.
You're here to help us get past second round.
MVP, best team, you lose to the Knicks.
I mean, it's...
Seven straight playoff appearances have not made the conference finals in those.
PG.
Seven seasons.
Welcome.
Okay, welcome.
Sit your ass down. They got to do it together. Okay, welcome. Sit your ass down.
Watch the show.
Sit your ass down
and watch this show.
All right, well,
as long as you say that,
I don't want to hear you
say shit about PG.
I'm a New York Knicks fan.
Don't say shit about PG
all year.
I want them niggas
to fight and gristle
and all that.
Yeah, PG, listen,
go over there
and do what you need to do
to make the team yours.
This much of an oxymoron
this nigga is in life, right?
This nigga's cheering for the Philadelphia 76ers football team
and the New York Knicks basketball team.
With the Yankees.
And I'm a Yankee fan.
And a Yankee fan.
And I cheer for France.
Goddamn, what else you want me to cheer for?
We win.
Who else y'all cheer for?
I'm going to cheer for the opposite, goddamn it.
Just to piss you off.
All right, well, Let's keep this moving.
NBA also announced some of the
NBA Cup games with this year's
tournament kicking off on Tuesday, November 12th.
League starting with the bang as
Klay Thompson returns to the Bay for the first time
with the Mavs. When? To take on his
former squad, the Warriors, November 12th.
Oh, then the same pool?
Yeah, start of the NBA Cup. Klay coming back
to the Bay to kick off the season tournament. So what are your expectations for Klay in his first game back in the same pool. Yeah, start of the NBA Cup. They're in the same pool.
To kick off the eighth season tournament.
So what are your expectations for Clay in his first game back in the Bay against the Warriors?
Foot to ass.
Foot to ass.
Clay going to get 35 shots.
Mm-hmm.
They going to make sure. J.K. for sure.
Oh, listen, J.K. going to make sure.
Oh, yeah, make sure he get for that.
He going to make sure he get all the shots.
All he has to do is just say, listen, you're going to get 35 shots.
Just take 35 shots.
Take 35.
Don't worry about Mr. Man, though.
If they focus their game plan on play and they still got Luka and Kyrie out there,
like, what are y'all doing?
You got to leave somebody open.
J.K. got an asshole in him, so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's going to make sure that boy get all the shots.
That's what I love about J.K., though.
He target niggas.
He go right at old school
Going him going to him all day who can you can't play defense if we don't go through the whole game gar who?
The fact like I mean this is stuff I be like little things like this you have a guard
Right, like let's say Luka has two fouls in the first quarter and your next
20 plays ain't going at him right something's wrong with you i'm wrong something's wrong
you got two fouls and you i don't want to garp right away man Drop. Whatever. He was doing that. He was going to let the score pull him out.
Man, listen.
Move around, nigga.
Man, let one call forwards out
and I had somebody guard me
that had one already
or something.
Man, K,
he used to tell me,
K, get your ass on the block.
Right now.
Go get your ass on the block.
We're going every goddamn time.
He better foul you.
He better foul you.
Don't do that.
Follow the score.
I'd be looking at it like, like, what are y'all doing?
What coaches?
What coaches?
What are y'all looking at?
Do y'all know?
They're the penalty.
They're the penalty.
I was about to say.
They're the penalty.
You get four.
Man, everybody to the rim.
Everybody to the rim.
Ain't no jumper.
No jumpers.
Ain't no jumper.
What are they going to do?
Show me how the game if you shoot a jumper.
You shoot one.
They're going to be like, what are you doing, man?
What are you doing, bro?
To the rim.
I'd be sitting there like, how is he still in the game?
He got three fouls.
There's no, he got three fouls.
He's telling the coach, I'm good.
I'm good.
Nigga, what?
No, you're not.
No, you're not.
One, four, flat.
Move.
The fuck is, I'm going to get a layup or he's going to foul me.
Something good is happening.
Something's happening.
Something's happening.
The whole time.
Somebody will get a great shot.
Listen, you got to go zone out this bitch.
Something, something.
I remember I got Jason Terry and two quick fouls.
We playing two fouls, quick.
Bum, bum.
Sub.
Then they put Corey Benjamin on me.
And then they put Dan Dickow in.
And I remember I came down, passed the ball.
Coach called timeout.
You know who you have on you?
Yeah, Dickow.
Dan Dickow.
You was aggressive against these two, and you're not going to score against Dan Dickow.
I don't care what play we call
Yeah, as long as then dick outs in the game score. Yeah, I shot the ball
12 straight time
Yes, yes, that's when Tracy McGrady said he's gonna score 50 on mellow 50
Let me ask I so I so now don't help him
I saw you there's do you think it's cuz there's ain't no real rivalries Iso. No, don't help him. Iso, you, there's.
Do you think it's because there ain't no real rivalries in the league?
No, I just don't think coaches is smart.
No, coaches ain't.
Like a player challenge.
Like when a player challenge is getting challenged.
Like a J.Kid challenges a player.
Like, you can't guard him.
We're going to go to him.
I'm looking at J.K.
As soon as they call the play, like, man, what's this?
I remember scouting this play. You running this place for him. Oh, that's the insult fuck this nigga Yeah, it's this but the challenge is this I'm accepting the challenge now like all right, Jay
That's what we own. Are they running this place for me?
I got a guard this and once I get I did this play then I gonna keep coming to this
It's they're not playing they're not coaching in real time or coaching and they're coaching by this this blue piece of paper or whatever
Fuck color it is now, right, you know at the three-minute mark. We're gonna run this and this they're not watching the game
Right, they're not watching the game
Like you can say like he just got a second foul and he waved the coach off and you sitting there
Alright pick and roll and we're gonna post up this person you seen here like
Why are we not did you just hear he had two foul he got two
fouls he's waving them off meaning he he think he good man if you don't run your whole i remember
we used to the zone came in right the zone zone came in and we like all right kenyan on this side
shit chauncey on this side jr is on this side and this person hey run offense over here
stay the fuck away we running our whole offense shifted to the whole other side and this person hey run offense over here They don't fuck away
We running our whole offense shifted to the whole other side and we gonna pick on the two niggas that didn't play defense
We're not run. I don't I don't care who's on fire on that side. He on that side
He on that side run it over here
We picked on the people who didn't know how to play or the people got to fuck you
I hate it when Shaq got two fouls
And he needs to get his third to get out of the game because I had to drive and take that goddamn hit
much as
Earl Borg was in the NBA, but I hated it. Mm-hmm. I hated being on the team with him at times
well, you score that bitch, but
Help will I?
Yeah Every time okay, I guess him. Mm-hmm He can score that bitch, but... Help! We're alive. He's alive. Help! Help! Help!
Help! Help!
You can't play against him.
Every time.
You can't play against him.
Who are we going to put him on when we play against them?
Help!
Who are we going to put him on?
We're going to put him on Larry.
Who?
Who?
Right?
Help!
He's strong as hell, but we still got to help.
Because all they're going to do is turn, shoot right in front of us.
And that's all it is.
Yeah. All right. Turn, shoot right turn it. That's all it is. Yeah
Skillful offensively absolutely
Liability every defensive possession. That's what like
Kevin McHale used to tell us about how him and Larry Bird
Used to set up the first five minutes of the game
Put the team that was their goal to put the team in the bonus. Put the team in the bonus, force mismatches now.
So if it was Parrish getting the big in foul trouble,
now we in the bonus.
We know somebody can't foul out here.
They're going to be sitting down.
As I said, I'd be sitting there like,
y'all shot 14 threes.
How do you shoot 14 threes in a row?
And then complain about fouls.
Who's the player on the court
that's like,
yo,
I just missed four, nigga.
You don't supposed to shoot again.
Right.
Drive.
Drive.
And then he shoot three.
Don't shoot just deep.
I just already.
He said,
you shot four, nigga.
I was shooting four.
I just proved that we not on fire.
We not on fire right now.
Get to the basket.
You not on fire, nigga. I was shooting four. No, you not on fire. I'm going to the basket. You not on fire, nigga.
No, you not on fire.
It's a we thing. Get to the
basket. Get us in foul trouble.
Now I can keep continuing to
shoot my shots.
So we talked about
Clay coming back to the Bay Warriors,
but let's talk about some news that impacted the Warriors
last week. Laurie Markin was
one of the biggest names on the trade market this summer,
with the Warriors reportedly being the top suitor for the former All-Star big man services.
But last week he agreed to a five-year, $238 million renegotiated extension to stay with the Jazz.
He was in the final year of his deal, and because he signed it after August 6th,
he will be with the Jazz at least through this season.
Warriors made a final offer of Moses Moody, multiple first-round picks, pick swaps, and second-rounders,
but refused to include Brandon Pajemski and or Kaminga in any deal.
And according to Shams, the Warriors consider Pajemski a first-team All-Rookie selection this past season
to be their guard of the future.
Did the Warriors make the right decision not giving up Pods or Kaminga for Laurie Markkinen? Wait, so the Warriors make the right decision not giving up pods or Kaminga for Lori Markkinen wait so the Warriors rejected the deal no jazz rejected the deal
because they wouldn't include them guys they wouldn't include a Pajinsky or
Kaminga in the deal so it wasn't both it was either one of them yeah a Pajinsky
became the main piece they were looking for, but Kaminga's name was also mentioned in a potential trade deal as well.
Golden State's stupid.
Yeah.
And just for reference, Markkinen was an all-star and most-approved player in 2023.
What's his name?
Who, Laurie Markkinen?
No.
Pajimski.
Brandon Pajimski?
Oh, Brandon.
Brandon Pajimski.
Show Paz some love, Gil.
But Markkinen averaged 23 points, 8 rebounds, 2 assists in 55 games this past season.
So, again, did the Warriors make the right decision not giving up Pijinsky or Kaminga for Laurie Markkinen?
I don't think so.
You would have pulled the trigger on that?
You just lost Klay, right?
So you need another guy that's really, that's proven.
Some other guys still trying to prove themselves
Right
out
Y'all would've got off of
Yeah, I would've got off of
So you would you would have made that do shot looking at that. Yeah, I would have. You were the Warriors.
What did you do with giving up Kaminga or Brandon?
We played different with Steph, man.
To get Larry Markin in on the squad with Steph and Dre.
Picking pop guy, big, new NBA.
You wasting Steph years, man.
I think I said a couple months ago that it's a burning building.
And that motherfucker's coming down.
And unfortunately, it's due to all of the things that the Warriors allowed to happen with Jordan Poole.
And I'm always going to be an advocate for him because I've seen his ceiling.
I've seen that he was, you know, somebody learning, trying to figure the game out,
and just, you know, literally hit someone's fist.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's unfortunate.
He had an upside, you know.
His family was looking forward to all of that.
You know, marketing, having the ability to go there,
it's cool and all,
but choosing Pajinsky and Draymond and Kaminga
over Jordan Poole, to pool to me was crazy. Just I
Just can't see it in time. I think about the Warriors. I think about Jordan put on one talk about it
That's what I feel like that's why clay left. I feel like that's what I go break the team up and
It's just it's unfortunate
It's unfortunate
It's unfortunate. So he wasn't So he didn't play basketball again?
No, he did.
It's just not the same.
No, he went somewhere and he motherfucking stink right now.
Yeah, the niggas is nasty right now.
His game is not even the same.
He don't look the same.
That ain't Golden State's fault.
Yeah, it's not, but they going to pay for it.
It's not his goddamn fault.
He got punched in 21, 22, right?
I think the summer of 22 going into it.
22, and then he came back the next year and averaged 20.
Mm-hmm.
Got the bread.
Mm-hmm.
And went downhill from there.
Well, you know, whatever they do, they do.
You know, wish them well, but fuck them at the same time.
So they could have gave up a left-handed...
I don't need it.
They could have gave up Brandon for...
Tom. It's all good. For a whole star? A left-handed... I don't need it. They could have gave up Brandon for...
Tom.
For a whole star.
I think it would have been Pajemski, Moody,
a bunch of picks, pick swaps, second rounders
to kind of fill it out.
Like, the picks thing I get,
because y'all didn't been in the Bay,
y'all didn't have no decent picks lately,
but I get...
I know you probably need some picks
moving forward later in life.
To get that, but right now you got a chance to get...
Yeah, I would have did it, man.
I can see.
It's one of those moves is
if we get marketing,
how good are we going to be?
Is it a championship caliber team
for Steph at his age?
If not, then it's like,
I'd rather just save my money.
Because when Steph is done,
then I still have all my picks
and I have a shitload of money to try to rebuild.
So it's...
Six and one half dozen other right now.
Yeah.
But are you looking...
Did you let Clay walk in free agency?
Yeah.
Okay.
It sounds like a bunch of motherfuckers
don't know what they're doing up there.
No, it just seems like they're just like...
Or they...
Reality kicked in and realized...
Okay, I got money off of Clay, fuck it.
Curry, what are we going to do?
Do I got to trade you?
I got to put you somewhere else?
But, you know, in two, three years, they're going to have a whole lot of money.
They'll just have Kamingan, a bunch of young kids with a whole bunch of picks.
And then they can overnight try to be a powerhouse again. But said they're committed to steph and putting a winning team around them but that's not
when it comes out your mouth but you know we can see it right here in real life that that
because there's no way if you was trying to win you would have made the trade i'm giving away
a couple picks and a couple drive pigs now I go get marketed and I can still go.
Yeah, yeah.
And I don't see Bajewski as no high potential turnaround,
Jeremy Lin type of come out and give you something crazy.
He's solid.
Don't get me wrong.
He's solid.
I mean, he's solid because he has the team he has.
We don't know what he's going to be when the office change and all that stuff.
So basically they're not doing what they're saying. know what he's going to be without that. When the office change and all that stuff.
Basically, they're not doing what they're saying.
And for them two pieces, for
a big piece like that, you can do that
right away. But they're saying it was probably
either one of them. It wasn't for both.
They didn't want to trade
Brzezinski straight up?
Brzezinski, Moody, Picks, and all that stuff.
Brzezinski and Moody?
Or Kaminga and Moody? But they look at him as their guard.
Or Kaminga and Moody.
Like, either combination.
I'm not giving up Kaminga
because I can't mimic that.
You can't mimic that.
I can't mimic that.
But for Moody and Pazinski?
For him?
That's a steal.
You're giving him away
for a strike.
You got Kaminga at the four,
Markin at the five.
You can put some pieces around.
You can put Draymond
at the four,
Kaminga at the three.
I mean, you still...
Damn, I'm gonna get it. You definitely can't.
You got GP2 still there.
Yeah, you still got some.
But Gypsy averaged 9.6 rebounds, four assists.
Woo-wee!
Barnburner!
Hey, boy!
Woo-woo!
Those are so good.
Y'all hate if y'all want to.
Those numbers aren't.
What was marketing numbers again?
Different price points.
Come on, it's just a bunch of people.
23 and 8.
23 and 8.
Yeah, so just pointing that out.
What from three?
Hmm?
What'd you say?
What'd you shoot from the field and what'd you shoot from three?
Marketing.
Give me one second.
Y'all always overextend
my limited knowledge.
Nah, man. You got to move them fingers fast.
Fingers fast.
They're fat, Rashad. 40 from 3?
40 from 3. 48 from the
field, 40 from 3. Oh, that's crazy.
Yeah. Okay.
Warriors trip. So let's just talk about the state of the
Warriors. So Warriors lost Clay, but
added Kyle Anderson, Buddy Hill, D'Anthony Melton to the roster. So Warriors lost Clay, but added Kyle Anderson, Buddy Hill,
D'Anthony Melton to the roster.
So while marketing was a prime target, according to Shams,
the team has no interest in making a move for either Brandon Ingram or Zach Levine.
But the Warriors say they're willing to do whatever it takes to keep Steph happy.
So during a recent interview with Mark Spears and Anscape,
Chef Curry said he wants to be a warrior for life, but also said, quote,
I want to win, let's put it this way.
If it is a situation where you're a bottom feeder
and it's just because you want to stay there,
I'd have a hard time with that.
But I don't think that's going to be the reality.
So are the Warriors doing enough
to make sure they aren't a bottom feeding team?
Say what? Say huh?
In the West? Overall West overall the bottom team oh yeah did not make it I mean they finished 10th last season did not make the playoffs that's
bottom feed that is well the area bottom feeding team so technically so you're
playing so with the moves they made and obviously coming is growth for Jim keys
growth this season do we we think they moved?
What are the three guards?
They didn't make no moves.
What are the three guards?
Melton.
Melton, Buddy Hill.
And Buddy Hill.
So what was the other one you said?
Kyle Anderson.
Melton.
Kyle Anderson, DeAnthony Melton.
Melton from the Sixers.
The Sixers, the Shooters.
And Buddy Hill.
Buddy Hill.
Two shooters.
Two shooters.
To not make the trade for marketing when you already have two shooters.
And Kyle Anderson.
Kyle Anderson for Silvester.
Known as Lee Kyron.
Lil Dre, man.
And you have Kyle Anderson as your point guard?
Yeah.
So why wouldn't they make two shooters?
So Brandon, what do you have him?
Brandon Ingram or Zach?
No, no.
Oh, Brandon Pazinchi?
Yeah, what is he going to be doing?
What is his point?
What's going to be the point?
And then we got both of them small boys out there. No, no, no Brandon. What are the position? Yeah, what is he gonna be doing? What is it supposed to be the point and then?
So we got both of them small boys out there
So you so slow mo will play the floor, but he would play point for it point Oh, I'm on so they mine just plan to five. Okay, so then what am I away?
So that's then that is a screener now
So that just so that he's poor for presents key unless they if they play small if they plan big
So dream on the fire a mine not in let say he not in and slow-mo plan for so what coming to plan three
And then slow-mo play point forward
That's disgusting disgusting. That's nasty as you're in your words your nasty word
So you got they ain't got a lot of shit that they can move around and even make it look good as we stand here
Right now middle August are the Warriors a playoff team play in team or lottery team? So they ain't got a lot of shit that they can move around and even make it look good. As we stand here right now, middle of August,
are the Warriors a playoff team, play-in team, or lottery team?
With this roster.
Name it again.
You know, I guess some people put their mask on,
but in different countries they don't want their wives to know they won the money.
But I think the picture's going to look this you on that side i'm on the side
holding a that big card lottery they hit the lottery yeah the lottery back to the lottery
they hit the lottery yeah they can't compete in the west in the west not with that roster
you can't compete like that you. In the West, not with that roster. You can't compete like that.
You got to make some changes.
Because we know it comes with a penalty for them to be great.
And the penalty is going to be running Steph to the ground.
Mm-hmm.
Facts.
You know, if they're becoming a play-in team or a playoff team,
that means Steph is damn near, for the first time in his career,
playing 40-something minutes.
Mm-mm-mm.
You think he want that or he dreading that?
Hell no.
He don't want that, man.
Man, you done won four championships, man,
playing about 33 to 35 minutes, man.
You comfortable with that?
You want your load to get easy. Entering 35 minutes, man. You comfortable with that? You want your load to get easy.
Entering the final stages
of your career.
What, you're 16,
I believe.
As the main guy?
No, but I'm just...
You don't want to play
40-something minutes, man.
That's...
40-something minutes
being doubled
the whole night, man.
God damn.
But they damn sure
going to put two on him.
Yeah.
I know he's sitting there like, man,
this about to be some bullshit.
Unless Anthony Melton and Buddy Hill out there
might be able to do it.
He about to go back to Dubai, man,
better run them sandals.
How effective has double teaming Steph Curry been in the NBA?
Not very.
Okay.
Because he had another guy over there.
He had another guy.
He don't got Clay no more.
He got Buddy.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Got somebody.
Where was Buddy at last year?
Philly.
And Indiana?
Obviously, there's still time.
He started with Indiana?
Yeah, he was in Indiana.
And so they needed all three-point shooting.
Okay.
So.
Then he went to Philly.
Still time for some moves to be made.
Indiana, though.
Hmm?
I think they said he had an attitude thing in Indiana.
So we asked the chat.
We said the Warriors are, A, a playoff team,
a playing team, or a lottery team.
53% think playing team,
but 39% think that they're a lottery team.
So...
At what point?
And we know Steph wants to be a Warrior for life.
He will be.
There's nothing but going up that bitch.
But do you think?
He better get out of there.
But that's what I was going to ask, Kaden.
I don't see it happening.
There's a light at the end of the tunnel.
Is it in Los Angeles?
No, there's a train coming.
Okay.
There's definitely a light at the end of the tunnel,
God damn it. It's definitely a light at the end of the tunnel, goddamn it.
It's a goddamn fucking train coming.
Fast.
Goddamn.
Yeah.
Get out the way.
That speed train, that motherfucking coming.
Especially coming off this Olympic experience, playing with these high-level dudes.
Now I got to come back.
Deal with this shit.
To you, Negroes.
I don't know.
But let's talk a little bit about Kaminga.
Had a breakout year
this past season.
Set career highs
and points, rebounds, assists,
minutes per game,
and field goal percentage.
So according to Yahoo Sports'
Jake Fisher,
Kaminga's looking for
a full max extension
worth $224 million.
He's in the final year
of his rookie deal.
Will be a restricted free agent
next summer
if him and the Warriors
don't agree to a new deal
before that.
Should the Warriors give Kaminga
a max extension? Is he the
player that you look to build the future
of your franchise around? You gotta wait.
When we said this
shit last time, he wasn't on here
when we had this conversation before. I like
Jonathan Kaminga. I don't know if I was on him, but I like Jonathan Kaminga.
I don't think he was on here because I was saying the same thing.
You gotta wait. Yeah, I was saying the same thing.
You gotta prove more. You gotta prove more. Gil was saying the same thing. You got to wait. Yeah, I was saying the same thing. No, I like him. You got to prove more.
You got to prove more.
You got to prove more.
And Gil was saying you got to give it to him now.
He got the only potential on the team.
Now and then, because for one, he's not making –
I heard you with the Tyrese Maxey thing.
Absolutely.
He's not making an all-NBA team.
Nope.
No.
So, therefore, you can wait and steal.
Yeah, give him what he worth.
Yes.
Yes. So, those numbers went up this year, right?
But what were those career highs and points, rebounds?
What was those numbers?
I need to see those.
16 and 5.
So, I need those numbers to go up this year.
16, 6, and 5?
16, 5, and 2 assists.
53% from the field.
Now, compare those to France.
So, I need those numbers to go up, Gil. Gil,, France, Franz Wagner. So I need those numbers
to go up, Gil.
Gil, yes, I hear you,
but I need those numbers
to go up.
Do you think France
deserves it?
So Wagner averaged
25 and four assists,
48% from the field.
He give me the 18, 19.
Yeah, that's different.
A couple more rebounds
and yeah,
he ain't even got to,
fuck the assist.
I don't give a fuck
about the assist.
Because he do different shit.
He do different shit.
So he can get how much?
224, I believe.
224.
Now?
Yeah, without the All-NBA.
It's going to be the same number next year.
And then next summer?
It's going to be the same number.
Yeah, it's the same number.
And he's restricted so they can, I think, match any.
Yeah, they can match anything.
So next summer they can match it into?
Yeah.
That's the bad part about it.
He's restricted.
When you were saying it.
So you let him go get it? You let him go get it. But when you were saying it, you can give That's the bad part about it. He's restricted. When you was saying it, it... So you let him go get it?
You let him go get it.
No, I paid him.
But when you was saying it, you can give it to him now and show your investment in him
in the future.
Yeah.
But if you wait, he have a bad season this next coming season to show like, all right,
he...
Oh, no, that's what they do.
You wait, hoping, like if I know I'm willing to pay him two something right now, and if
he plays very well, right?
He averages 20, 25, it don't matter.
You give it to him.
You give it to him.
If he averages fucking 15, 13,
like, hey, young fella, listen up.
You drop it, do you drop it?
Hell yeah.
I got leverage.
If he come back this year and he do 15 a game,
I don't have to pay him.
If it's the same numbers.
I don't have to pay him.
So he go up to, what, let's say 18, 19?
See, I got basically
from 16 points
all the way until
an NBA,
all NBA team,
I'm in 220.
Yeah.
Right?
So I have so much room.
Even if he averages
27 points a game
and he don't make
an all NBA team,
220.
But you got two seasons
to wait for that.
So he'll be a restricted free agent just something so he got one season last year
with you let me got this season to prove to him yes yeah so that we want to give
you that but that's what I'm saying too too much you got a your number you
career highs and every gotta go up let me see that continue with the growth
doing the only reason don't that hurts the only thing that hurts them is all
NBA because it puts him in another and if we don't think he's gonna make An all NBA team we can wait. He's not
Cuz you're cuz all you're doing is just banking on he don't play very well
So I could get the money down. He can play fucking great
He can play great. Mm-hmm. He's not top 15 right NBA top 25 top friends
But he got the max but there's other guys ages 20s 21
But now do you run the risk with commingo pissing him off if you go?
Okay, I guess you match it but guess what go play pissed off tough shit, yeah, please
Please yeah
He came out ball somebody else can just offer him just as much as that.
So they can match whatever he gets offered.
So basically they could not say play a game of chicken,
but be like, all right, go see what the market.
See what your market value is.
See what your value is.
What's the max he can get in the market?
Maybe under that two-point mark.
Yeah.
From a different thing.
Your own team can pay you more.
Your own team can pay you more.
Your own team can pay you more.
Your own team can pay you more.
Maybe less years.
So you just play chicken with them knowing that whatever you...
But then that hurts too because if you know the team is gonna match it, most people won't offer it then.
Like I know Keen ain't coming here so what the fuck I'm gonna offer him for?
But you over here like, just offer me the shit.
You know what I mean?
To gauge to see if the main team really wants you,
if they can offer more than what they want to give you.
So they want to lowball them.
So this is what I did.
Like what happened with PG?
They wanted to do the PG deal with what they wanted to give them,
and he's like, man, I'm cool.
I'm going to go over here and I'm going to give them.
I went and visited the Atlanta Hawks,
had no intention of going there, motherfucker,
just to run the price up.
Just run the price up.
People thought I was going to Atlanta. They were like, oh, he going to. They had this in place. I went that just to run the price up just run the price up people thought i was going to the line today like oh he going to like this in place i went down just to
run the price up yeah so i'm gonna i'm gonna have an interview with him to see what is he serious
yeah yeah because i don't want to do this i don't want to especially with somebody who's restricted
if i know i'm going to make an offer with them and then i know they're going to match it
but then it happened to lamar. Right, Lamar?
No, it happened to Aiden with the son. No, Lamar.
Everybody knew they were going to match it
so there was no point in even me throwing money out there.
It's pointless.
They would be dumb not to.
You're going to hold my money so they're not going to let
them walk. It's cheaper
for me to just go on out there and let me see what you got.
Bring your ass back. Go play it out. I think he in the perfect
He don't get his money the way it go it war warriors
It's a smart move by them because yeah
That's I said the only thing that messes it up is he makes the all-nba team if he makes all-nba team kind of
Benefits them but they gonna lose more money with him doing it
We've seen teams like the Rock do the same thing with Jalen green and Shane goon like we're gonna wait till next but you don't
have to do that with him because you have such this big gap.
You got anywhere from 16 to about 25 points.
And if our team is bad, we know he's not going to make an All-NBA team.
He might be an All-Star.
He can fuck around and make an All-Star.
But he might not make an All-NBA team with our record.
So I'm going to let him play this out.
That All-Star game benefits us. Because if he don't average,
I'm pretty sure they're looking at him,
he should average 20 this year.
He's going straight to number two.
Yes.
If he don't average 20,
I get to hold that against him.
Yes.
The only thing that changes is his age kind of fucks me up.
Wiggins is still there.
Wiggins is still there.
Yeah, but he's my second option.
Oh, shit.
I forgot about Wiggins. Kermit is myins is still there. Yeah, but he's my second option. Oh, shit. I forgot about Wiggins.
Kamega is my second option.
Now you wonder what now.
Wiggins, that's what makes this trade.
I thought about Wiggins.
You got Wiggins.
You got Kamega.
And you just signed Anthony Melton, Buddy Hill.
And then you don't go for marketing?
That's a playoff thing.
Moody's gone now.
You still got Gary Payton.
I believe Steph's eligible for an extension coming up soon, too. You don't Gary Payne. I believe Steph is going. That's crazy.
That's a boy for an extension coming up soon, too.
You know, over marketing, kind of like, ah.
They fucked that up.
Now, that's a better team.
It's a way better team.
But the product that you're putting out there right now.
But the problem becomes this.
You take marketing's money, boom.
Then Kaminga has to be paid, and then Steph is up for a re-up.
You accolade a lot of money.
They already did it.
They've been doing it.
They did it, yeah.
They've been doing it.
No, they've been.
When is Dre going to do that?
Now I don't want to do that.
Three more years.
Dre's got a player option in 26-27, so he's under contract for two more.
Two more years.
Yeah, two more seasons.
This season, next season.
This season, next season.
And then he can opt in for the following season.
So he has three years.
Three years total.
They would probably be in the red with that one season.
But you got to think about it's one of those things where if you take marketing, you have his money.
Let's say Kaminga is still the second or third option.
He's averaging about 17, 18.
His money is being demanded damn near max.
And then Step is up.
So even if y'all winning, Step is up.
Yeah, you don't.
But you don't have to give him.
You can give him.
Listen, man, you offered that boy 150, 160.
Yes.
He's taking it.
Yes, bro.
You don't give him that max.
He's taking it.
Nah.
Especially if you don't perform like it.
You're anticipating him performing well or mediocre?
He averages 17.
He's taking that money, man.
But turn 22 in October, you think he would take the discount?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, take the discount, bro.
And you got to do this, but that's if marketing was on the book.
I think depending on how the season goes for Kermit, if he's balling.
But we were speaking on hypotheca. If marketing was there.
If marketing, if they would have did that trade.
So the deal would look more like the Brunson deal, huh?
If he wanted to cut a team.
If marketing.
If he wanted to cut a team.
Yeah, if marketing was there, yeah.
That would be a dope-ass fucking, that whole scenario.
They botched it, so he got to stay for the year.
Okay, you talked about just the threat of going to the Hawks.
But for you guys, what's it like just being in a contract year?
And how much pressure do you have on yourself to perform
while also not forcing it to try and get that bag for that next deal?
Well, I can speak on me.
So year three for me, I thought I should have been an all-star.
They offered me six for 66 going into my fourth year.
I turned it down.
Because I felt like, like I said, I thought I should have been an all-star.
So going into my fourth year, I made the all-star team.
In L.A., right? If I'm not mistaken.
So the number went up.
So the number went up. Mm-hmm.
So the number went up the next summer.
Whatever the number was,
it was higher than 66.
Mm-hmm.
So there ain't
no pressure there.
There's no pressure.
Mm-hmm.
So I go out and hoop.
Because if your trajectory
is going a certain way,
we was already
kicking ass in these.
We was coming off
of two finals appearances.
I thought I should've
been an all-star.
We top two teams in the East Steel. coming off of two finals appearances. I thought I should have been an all-star.
We top two teams in the East Steel.
So I thought I had all the leverage on my side going into it.
So after year four, I make the all-star team.
We lose to the Pistons.
They go on to win it.
So we thought we wasn't,
it was right there between us and them.
So they go to win it in 04.
I'm a free agent.
So I'm thinking, shit, okay.
They're going to at least offer 80.
Shit, I'm still waiting on the phone to ring.
To this day.
To this day, shit.
Damn near, yeah.
So, shit, 20 years later.
It all depends.
Yeah.
It depends on who you are.
Like, the only time I was really a free agent was my second year at Golden State.
But I was making only a couple hundred thousand, right?
I knew I was going to make more than that.
Anyway.
No matter what.
Right, no matter what.
So there's no pressure on me to perform that year
because I'm making $300,000.
So shit.
Right.
A million dollars, nigga,
I'm celebrating.
Right.
A million dollars a year,
I'm celebrating.
So there was really not...
Shit, that summer,
if they were smart,
they could have had me
a seven-year,
$24 million.
Nigga, I'd have been
that motherfucker.
Pulled up in a Rory.
Shit, but they laughed that off because they didn't think I was worth it.
And then end up, they couldn't even afford me six months later.
Which is why we have the Gilbert Arenas provision in the CBA.
Right, so it all depends.
I think that shit, I think the pressure really comes into someone who's like like in the later of your years where you're trying to really get
them that that big big deal or you're a younger player like a kaminga like kaminga right now
there's pressure on him to to ink a big deal absolutely right so you know so someone like that
um someone like wiseman who will be playing for a contract, right?
Like, because he, you can fuck around, be a great year, 200.
Or you can be in a three-year motherfucking 15, right?
Or one year.
Or one year.
One year, eight and a half.
One year, eight and a half, I guess so.
You know what I mean?
So how you make shots can really, like we just seen it, Dallas Clay.
Yeah.
We can see what happens when you're thinking about that next deal.
And they're probably taking Les Brown with that 3 for 50.
Yeah, but the 2 for 48.
Your question, how does it feel to have your name mentioned with, like,
when people negotiating
contracts and Gilbert Arena provisions shit?
It's cool.
It's dope.
But we've talked about this.
Got the bird right.
Got the bird right.
Yeah, and shit like that.
This nigga's name is forever mentioned when they're negotiating fucking contracts.
You should do master classes with this shit, bro.
You should teach these niggas how to really actually do this shit, bro
Like cuz they don't know they don't they don't have the courage of the bravery to to step out and try it
You know this they they should look because people don't know I did my my second my second contract
I did it myself. I heard about Ray Allen doing his first one without a
He just did a lawyer. That's the first time I heard about it.
But your shit was just on some.
No, I didn't.
So my second one, I did it just.
And all I did was just look at other contracts.
It ain't that fucking hard.
Most of you guys don't even need no goddamn agent.
So that was my thing.
Agent, you need that nigga when you need to be traded.
You need resources.
So you look at your position, right?
Look at your position.
You're going right.
What the guy with the average is, guys, that's all stars.
And that's exactly what I did.
And the going rate at the time was $80 million, right?
For fours at the time, niggas were getting at least $80.
Yep, at least.
You offered me $66.
I said no.
I need that other $14.
Right?
You come with the other $14.
Now we can start talking.
But that went from 80 to another.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.
It's just.
We talked about this.
You got to be realistic.
One, you have to be realistic with yourself.
Like some of the guys get screwed over because they have somebody speaking for them.
Like what is your value?
What do you think your value is?
Because once you go into that market, so many numbers is going to be thrown around, right?
That if you don't know your own value personally before you get to the age of like, all right, I'm worth.
Like when I was like, I'm worth 60 million compared to the rest of the field.
All right, so when I'm going in, we're talking 55, 53, you know what I mean?
72.
When I heard 65, like, oh, like oh shit I'm good I don't need
to look at nothing else I don't need
nobody else's number to fuck me up
and that's what happened with like you know
Clippers and all them like wait we didn't
know he was asking we thought he was asking for the max
I could have came with 64
but I never gave nobody I heard the number
I'm gone so it's one thing to know your value
but I'm asking
at what point do you know what
to take? Remember
what you was talking about. You're worth what
I give you.
So if your value is like, if they start negotiating
like you just said, you was like, no, stop there.
I'll take that. You got to know what you're willing
to take. But that's
knowing your value. That's what I just said. So they offered me the
66, I could have took it.
I could have been like, oh, yeah
Let's do that, you know, but now you knew what you knew you but he knows the bottom number
66 you wasn't you wasn't willing to take that. No, exactly because it was like what what number are you willing to take?
That's comfortable. It was a it's like a time for me. It was a yeah, right? I'm cool with a anything other a did
There's nothing for us to talk about. Right? Mm-hmm.
Like, it was 80.
If you're not coming with this number, then don't even call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, good we talked about it.
Well, again, they didn't fucking call.
So, good we talked about it.
The second round pick, but by your fourth season, I believe you made more bread than the number one overall pick in your draft class.
It was Kwame Brown.
Mm-hmm.
So, just wild to think about.
So, technically, you were the top pick.
That's where the beef comes from.
Even if I never got hurt, if I never got hurt, none of those guys would have ever caught me in money.
That's where the beef stems from.
Oh.
He was the first pick, you was second round, and you started...that's where it stems from.
To be honest, he didn't have no beef with me, dawg.
You know that shit was just.
You just went on the wrong episode.
I did.
You went on the follow-up episode.
You went on the wrong episode.
You called all the same.
But I remember, I was like, oh, this was the next episode.
It was like, what episode?
That's where it started from.
It didn't mean I'm petty.
I'm not going to let this shit go.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, that's one thing we can guarantee you will not let anything go.
But it's really just...
Nah, motherfucker, you started with me.
Yeah, it's just really just knowing what you're worth.
Like, you know if you buy a shoe that's easy, it's no different than anything, right?
If I buy this shoe, it's worth $200, right?
But I know if you two niggas want't it I can get a lot more facts I
told her I told this kid he had the red October to cut the Kanye's red October's
and he was trying to put it put it he was trying to put it on for 5,000 right
I said dog you would never sell these shoes for 5,000 he said but I want
5,000 all right how about this give a raffle for $1? He's like, why would I do that?
5,000 motherfuckers $1 you gave the illusion that I can win this shit for one the person who wins the raffle wins it for $1
How many $1 do you think one person can buy you're gonna get more than 5,000, you know getting 11,000
You'll pay $1
Message to your pick You'll pay $1 for the chance to live with that. Everybody will pay $1. Message. You will pay $1 for the chance to listen to that.
Everybody will pay $1.
Hey, nigga, I'm fucking around getting $20.
Give me 20 tickets.
We about to do a raffle in this motherfucker.
But it's just the same way.
You about to do a raffle in this motherfucker.
I had to throw it in there.
Just change the word, god damn it.
Shit, get some work.
You want to see the work for a dollar raffle. One person want $5,000. You want to see the work for a dollar raffle?
One person want $5,000.
You want to see the work for a dollar raffle?
I could start a whole new business.
Work raffle.
Thank you.
Raffle it off.
We asked the chat, should the Warriors give Kaminga a max extension?
64% at this time say no.
All right, let's keep it in the Western Conference.
Talk about everybody's favorite team on the couch.
Lakers are entering the season with a new head coach in J.J. Redick.
After back-to-back seven-place finishes in J.J. Redick. Fuck this shit.
After back-to-back seven-place finishes in the Western Conference.
I will not be deterred.
I will not be deterred.
Man, fuck that shit.
So back-to-back seven-place finishes,
following up their Western Conference Finals run in 2023 with a gentleman's, or the second-to-least minimum amount of games possible
to beat a team to the Nuggets this past season.
So there was much excitement heading into the offseason about securing more talent to
strengthen the roster, with the team re-signing LeBron to a two-year extension and D'Lo opting
into the final year's deal.
But the Lakers haven't signed any free agents at this point, and according to the Athletics'
Jovan Buha, the Purple and Gold are banking on a healthy Jared Vanderbilt and Gabe Vinson
to help bolster their squad.
I don't know why y'all laughing man. Okay
I like Vando to very good. Yeah with former first-round pick Max Christie looking at me doing them when he not doing what I like
right now
Like I don't expect to make shots I
Don't expect them up for this listen go out there and do what you know
So funny like like tours when he started playing a
Second time he started back door and it started getting easy, but it's like
Also got max Christy who look to move in the rotation and their draft pick horse round pick max Christy and then Dalton connect
Young kids expected to get some burn as well and young kids from like two years to two draft pick
Yeah, so Savannah bill was a key contributor during the Lakers.
I know he is.
I'm just...
Give him a hard time, King.
But soon you will convert.
No.
We got a jersey for you.
Never.
So Vanderbilt was a key contributor during the Lakers conference finals run in 2023.
Only played 29 games this past season.
Missed the playoffs.
And after signing a three-year, $33 million deal in 2023,
Gabe Vinson only appeared in 11 games this past season.
What did he hurt?
Do we even know what he got?
What did he hurt?
There had to be something serious to miss 11 games.
That's what happened when you come to the Lakers.
You probably heard the same thing. Your boy
that was Miami last.
Kendrick Nunn came through. They probably got the same thing.
Knee injury, so.
COVID.
Underwent knee surgery on December 27th.
What kind of?
Scope.
Scope.
When this is.
Because scope is a weak process of recovery.
You see, he can't tell us shit.
Knee surgery.
When you.
Because scope is scope.
Scope is scope.
We want to look for some shit. That lets you know the difference of players right if it was a star play they tell you exactly yeah mycofracture meniscus tear bone ligament this and this was
somebody had the injury last in the playoffs it was some shit that she was
saying it was some weird shit I'm was that? A weird fucking injury somebody had, and we was all like, what the fuck was that?
We had to really look it up.
Boston.
Porzingis.
Yeah, whatever he heard of.
The medical, logical.
Yeah, whatever that shit was, we had to look it up.
We had to look it up.
We had to look it up.
He had knee surgery.
Yeah, knee surgery.
What happened?
Surgery.
Surgery.
That's about it.
Where?
His knee.
How long he have?
We don't know.
So Lakers cited about this roster,
J.J. Redick making his NBA head coaching debut with his squad.
Is a healthy Lakers a top four team in the West?
After the look J.J. gave us in Vegas.
It was a confusing look.
And the way he treated my boy Steve I
Don't got no love for the Lakers man
You ain't gotta love for what the excuses you're not not to like the lake. We know you don't like you don't need another
The way they did see the way JJ. The way they did Steve, the way JJ looked, the way they smelled. The way they did Darvin Ham.
They cooked that ham over there, man.
So, Sean, when we saw JJ in Vegas, he was outside the glass
when we were at the Sirius XM Studios at the Wynn
doing our Gills Arenas from Vegas.
Kind of gave you a look.
Did not come in, no doubt.
It was kind of like, come outside, look.
Come outside.
Why this window right here?
Move this window.
Which was obviously, you lived a lot away, so I was kind of curious with that look. Why are you going outside? Why this window right here? Move this window. Which was, obviously, you lived a lot away, so I was kind of curious.
Well, what that look?
Can't come to my work.
You can't come to work.
Came to your place of business.
Your makeshift temporary place of business.
Duke Carolina rivalry.
Did not even walk in and have some tasty cheese cake.
Didn't get a Perrier.
I heard him say it was Duke Blue.
That's what I heard.
That's what they be saying.
He ain't never won one, though.
Top four?
No.
With this squad?
No.
Nah.
Not a chance.
If they're healthy?
No.
This squad?
This squad healthy.
Nah, nah.
Maybe, what was it, last year or the year before?
The year before they went against Joker now?
Twice.
Back-to-back seasons.
Western Conference Finals.
With the Western Conference Finals, that was kind of like,
you could take this roster then.
Similar squad, though.
But you can't do it now.
Everybody's involved.
I got us fifth or sixth.
Sixth.
Okay, that's reason.
I got, you know what I mean?
We got bring your son to career day, right?
You know what I mean?
When you bring your son, you got to do extra shit, right?
You got to pretend, you know, when you bring your son,
you got to pretend that he's bigger than what he is.
Yeah, yeah, so this is what we do.
That's going to be brawn.
Yeah, he's going to have to average about 32.
Son, this is how I do this shit around here.
Woo, we might get a new brawn.
We might get a 32-year-old brawn now.
He average 32.
Y'all going to be 12th place.
Damn, say that. Damn, K. Damn. That's some fat. He averaged 32. Y'all going to be 12th place. Damn, say that.
Damn, K.
Damn.
That's some fat.
I know, man.
Goddamn, dog.
Man, playing regularly, he averaged 32.
No, no.
Don't say we the play-in.
We are the playoff team.
No, play-in.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Old school record, we playoff team.
We've been seven two times.
We're talking about 24 25 season
Hmm, I get it, but we still a seven seed both years. That's a playoff team. That's why you bring it up old shit
Like so when people like Eddie I barely made the playoff no nigga. We were a seven seed two years straight
We ain't the nine for 10 feet and we getting and then we we can. We are legit seven seed.
In-season tournament champions, playing champions.
Bring in Braylon.
Hey, man, he bringing his son to school.
I mean, he bringing his son to his job, so he might be on a whole nother level.
He might be on a whole nother level, man.
Like Ric Flair, Ric Flair, Razor Maroon.
Y'all do know this man about to be 40 in December, right?
We cannot tell.
But, you know, when your son watching, boy,
you know what I mean?
It's like getting in a fight, right?
Son gonna be watching
while he turn 40.
He been eating baguettes
and croissants.
He is rejoicing.
Usually when Bronny was watching,
you know,
nigga be on the phone.
Hey, what's up, girl?
Yeah, I'm at the game, girl.
Now he on the...
So we been saying
the man need help.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
We been saying the king need help. For? Yeah. We've been saying the king need help.
For the last two years now.
Six.
Right?
Come on, don't cut it short now.
Don't do that.
I see what you're trying to do over there.
I see what you're trying.
But since we've been on the couch,
the last two years.
The last two years since we've been on the couch, the last two years. The last two years since we've been on the couch,
we've been saying collectively that LeBron needs some help.
Right?
He's got it now.
Healthy Vanderbilt.
Hush, Joe.
Hush, Joe.
Wait till we start off the season 1-0 or 2-0,
then we can throw our train out there.
I will wait.
You know what Anthony Davis is capable of doing when he's
on the floor and shooting the ball
and being cool.
So we've been saying that there needs to be
reverse.
Anthony Davis needs
to be the man and LeBron needs to be able
to be the second fiddle as far
as scoring. Give him the keys.
With all that, the man still been having
the average 25 sevens.
Yeah, that's fact.
And y'all been fucking seven seed, right?
25, seven, seven, y'all a seven seed.
Bring your son to school, we get six.
That's why I said six.
We can get six, we can get six. You can, I ain't tripping. I'm not tripping that's why I said six we can get sick we can get six
I mean man I'm not tripping he goes out like this yo he goes out and do that he
won't be playing by his 40th birthday you know they know I'm out 20 so they
don't wear him out if he got another body in the back Oh, no, they making the body right there. The fat's going to be there. It's going to be the gray bearded brawn.
The long gray bearded brawn.
It's going to be the gray bearded brawn, this one, right?
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
Uncle Drew.
Uncle Drew and them.
Melly watched the Serbia game, and then she watched the Paris game.
She was like, wasn't his beard black yesterday?
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Don't pretend that's a whole other bra.
He can't control his beard color, man.
He's like, damn it, bra.
How is it just all gray now?
He's stressed.
Overnight?
Listen, I just hope.
Listen, listen.
We know he going to be on some real demon shit if it came back all black.
No gray's hair.
Oh, my God.
I'd be like, yeah.
What if he shaved that shit?
Yeah.
Shaved that shit. The cat out the bag, though. Once the cat is out the bag, there's no. Oh my god. I'm like, yeah. What if he say that shit? Yeah. Say that shit.
Cat out the bag, though.
Once the cat is out the bag, there's no going back.
I like the gray because it shows his age.
Oh, we are, because during the season last year, you saw just, it was a few.
Uh-huh.
I'm like, damn, okay, he's just, man.
Man.
Damn over.
The gray bearded brun average 32, he ain's going to be the gray-bearded brun average 32.
He ain't going to make it.
He's a rough... Listen, listen.
He's one party night away from being grandpa.
Yes.
He's one road trip in Miami.
He go to sleep too early and waking up and say,
Hey, Pop.
Hey, Pop.
Say, you got a grandson.
That's right.
Damn.
I'm just serious right now.
Like he's at, that's his look right now.
He's this look away from being.
He's a road trip away from being somebody's granddad.
Yeah, dog.
Fact.
He don't look young no more.
Fact.
Fact.
So, uh.
Oh, shit.
Let's talk about Bron and AD.
Oh, my God.
By the playoffs start, he can have one, dog.
He can have one by the playoff.
For sure.
For sure.
He coming to the game.
For sure.
He coming to the game.
That motherfucker might already be on the way, though.
This whole name, just LeBron James III.
The third.
God damn.
Bron, that's Junior, Junior, bro.
And I'm just speaking.
40, 45 drafts.
Like, King can go around. For sure. Be the real King. Junior junior
Be the real king
Hey Prince Prince turned into the king overnight
Let's talk about Brian ad
LeBron and ad played their most games as Lakers this past season. LePops on the way.
LeGrand Papa.
LeGrand Papa.
Ladies and gentlemen.
You know how crazy that would be.
He doing an interview on some shit, got a shot at it.
Pop, LeGrand Papa.
Oh, relax.
He holding his grandbaby boy.
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you enjoyed this show,
go ahead and download the 100 Dog Fantasy app.
That just lets you know how old he is.
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Download the 100 Dog Fantasy app.
So when I first saw it, I was like, no,
Brian, you can't do that.
Like, you got to bring the dude with you.
Whoever the barber is, he got to be there. Got to be there. there. He got a be there. He would've been at the whole time
You got any you got plenty?
There was a barber there. It was the barber for everybody
Mellie's Mellie's brother. Yeah. Oh, so see it was it was your brother who cut everybody's hair
See he was the barber for everybody and could whenD came back for the gold medal, he had his shit set. He had a haircut?
Yeah.
He had two haircuts during the Olympics.
During the Olympics, yeah.
He had two.
Don't move, nigga.
Don't move.
He had two during the Olympics.
He got one to start, and he got another one.
He was like, ah, no, no.
See?
Ah.
Ah.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
See, but my thing is, I would tell the brother, like,
you can't do it.
No haircut for me. Because once it's out, like, oh, you can't do it. No, here it comes for me.
Because once it's out, there is no going back.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
The dudes that you...
Listen, I'm 40.
I'll be 47 this year.
Mm-hmm.
We know.
Once it started...
Yeah.
Once I...
Early on, I did.
I tried it a few times.
I was like, ah, fuck it.
Once the cat was out the bag, I'm like...
Somebody was like, damn, why don't you start this? Nig bag, I'm like, somebody like that,
why don't you start this?
Nigga,
I'm on TV
three,
four days a week.
What,
I'm going to start doing
that short of my shit
jet black?
Nah,
man.
They call it cocoa.
Nah,
nah.
That'd be the funny.
Gotta do the cocoa beans.
Nah,
you know the funny part is
sometimes when you on TV
and you just keeping it black
and then someone sees you
on an off day
Yeah, and you'll ship like there you go
Since 25
I love my woods in the day, we play for our eyes and tell,
all right, come on, Woody.
Bring it on out.
We used to see him, nigga, all this shit,
but he's growing in, nigga.
White.
Uh-huh.
Oh, yeah, all white.
It's all white.
Mm-hmm.
And this shit, black as this cup.
Uh-huh.
Coco Bean.
But he's going in, shoot around, come out, goatee this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm young again.
Okay. Okay. But, no, but, yeah, yeah, I was always like, Brian, you come out, go to this. Yeah, yeah. I'm young again. OK.
But no, but yeah, I was like, Brian, you can't do it, dog.
Can't let the world see it yet.
Yeah, yeah.
You ain't ready.
I understand this.
Because you've been this, you can't hide.
What's that?
You talking about when he peeled it back?
You know what I'm saying?
This, you've been doing a good job at concealing it.
That's his own hair.
You've been doing a great job at concealing it.
So I just think you should have brought the dude
with him and...
You know something, but it kind of like...
I think it helps the image more because how he plays...
This is how you know everyone still thinks this nigga's 30.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Kobe would've never played it.
Like 31-year-old Kobe?
Yeah. 31-year-old. You can't keep comparing a 40 year old man to a 31 year old man because he plays I think now that
We can see he looks old. He needs to go ahead and go with we be like he's 40. Okay, he's 40
Okay, 40 or brawn at 25 25, okay
Like soon as soon as you's... So things like that,
man, that old nigga getting buckets now.
Old nigga getting buckets now, right?
Soon as you go into the press conference,
start combing his shit,
yeah, nigga, he's great.
I look just like you.
Yeah.
Let's talk Bron and AD quickly.
Both of Bron and AD played their most games
as Lakers this past season
and are coming off a long summer.
That's how they both play 11 games with Team USA, including six in the Olympics.
LeBron taking home the MVP, as we already know.
Like you said, LeBron will turn 40 in December.
What impact will LeBron and AD have?
December 30th.
December 30th.
That's a good day.
So closer to January.
No, that's a great day.
That's it.
It is.
Capricorn.
Great man born on that day.
You're absolutely right. What impact will LeBron and AD playing on Team USA have on the Lakers season none not for LeBron because
he's always in shape I think with Anthony Davis it it kind of I think sometimes too much rest
hurts you, right?
You know, going into the summer, taking two, three months off,
and then trying to get it back going, little things happen.
I think the fact that he's been playing, you know, longer,
like right now he probably would take a week off, a week and a half off,
then he'd have to rev back up, right?
So his body's priming, right?
It's healthy.
And I think that helps more than taking a whole summer off
than trying to really rev it up in September like we usually do.
September, then you come in, and now you got to go do summer training camp,
and you're pushing your body, getting a little calf strain here,
a little thigh injury here, and then you just linger the rest of the season.
Because he ain't going to do much during training camp.
Yeah, so that's where he's going to break his training camp.
He won't do much.
He won't do much.
Yeah, and will you think that'll have any long-term effect on the Lakers season?
Nah, I think it helps because you won't have those little knick-knacks
he usually has that keeps him out.
Rashad, I see you shaking your head in disagreement.
Of what?
I see you shaking your head.
Oh, yeah, I was just hating.
And as you pointed out yesterday, is fun, yeah, definitely, okay
Depending on what you say out loud. Yeah, I'm just thinking about what kind of hate I was gonna spew
Please be honest
Mom
Listen man million dollars a year on your body, man,
40 years old, you got to commend it, man.
It's an impeccable feat.
I just want to know how to do it so I can...
I want to have access to it, too.
Like, but isn't that...
Like, think about just the kids now,
because we hear LeBron, but Steph is...
How old is Steph?
36.
36? Katie's Steph? 36. 36.
KD's 35.
38.
No, he's about the same age as Steph.
Yeah, he's 36.
So Steph, 36, turns 37 in March.
KD, 35.
Durant is 35.
35.
But he turns 36 in September.
Yeah, they put the ages of what they will be for the next Olympics.
Yeah, so when you look at those guys,
you can see those guys, like, you can see
those guys are doing something that the past didn't do.
Right?
We only hear about LeBron, but Steph looks, he don't look like he's about to be 37 either.
Yeah, he do.
No, he don't.
Yeah, without that shit, he look...
I mean, besides his face, but he's always looked a little roughy right here.
This shit always been a little nappy.
A little scruffy.
A little scruffy right here.
But for the, for the most part, these guys, these guys.
Who are they?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
We light-skinned niggas with nappy hair.
That's right.
But I'm just saying, for the most part, like, stars, these stars are lasting longer.
They are.
Right?
They're not retiring at 32, 34, 35, and they're like, ah.
They ain't 37 and still being dominant players.
So, you know, all the guys need to start looking at what these guys have been doing.
True.
Huh?
True.
All right.
Waiting.
Send me the link.
For what?
For LeBron.
Send us the link.
Send us where to go get the supplements and the shakes.
Yeah, he got them Iron Man suits in the closet.
Yeah, give me the suit. Give me something.
G and C. Give me something.
No, push-ups will do something.
So, last question.
Lakers won first in-season championship,
hardest in-season tournament championship in NBA history.
Still going. Still going.
How much pressure is on LeBron to defend his most important?
Why gotta be LeBron? Why can't it be the Lakers, bro?
Because, Gil, you know what the Lakers are.
You know what it is.
Because it's his team. He's still on it.
To defend what?
The in-season tournament.
Fuck out of here.
Only player in NBA history
with an in-season tournament championship
and Olympic MVP.
How we sounding right now on the in-season tournament,
I'm pretty sure that's how they sounded
when everything was being put together.
All-Star game.
What the fuck is an All-Star game?
It's some bullshit.
All-NBA.
Oh, now we...
Did that reward All-NBA?
Right?
I think this shit just to get me motivated to play a game.
I think it's the...
Just like the end-season?
Like the end...
No, no, the playoff.
What is the...
The play-in.
The play-in.
I hate it.
Yeah.
But it worked, though.
It worked. It literally worked. The play-. What is the play-in? The play-in. I hate it. Yeah. But it worked, though. It worked.
It literally worked.
The play-in worked.
With the play-in or the tournament?
The play-in.
The play-in.
So, I mean, that's what I said.
No, no, not the play-in.
The mid-season.
The mid-season.
The mid-season worked.
The end-season tournament worked.
It was beautiful.
It worked.
Because it got them all hyped up for nothing.
I mean, the best thing is, besides us winning the championship,
they're getting choked out. That's the best. Yeah, they got to cheer hyped up for nothing. I mean, the best thing is, besides us winning the championship, nigga getting choked out.
That was the best.
Yeah, they got to cheering and all that shit.
It was like, damn, y'all actually felt like y'all won something.
In Vegas, turnt up.
That was crazy.
But everybody, I mean, the courts, everything.
It was the money.
And the bread.
The end-season tournament shit is the money.
It was a money grab, but niggas really.
I hate that play-in shit.
But people really got, I mean, the players was really going hard
or made it look like it
I just didn't like that Lakers decline after that
Under I mean tough gritty. I really wanted them to go upwards just so they can all off a clear
They kicked him off the fucking whoo
That y'all looking at it was beautiful down there mother they had y'all looking at the ocean and motherfucking rainbow down there motherfucking people taking pictures of y'all and shit
and they kicked y'all ass off the cliff
whoo I'll just point that out. One of two teams? Y'all didn't hang no banner? They're not hanging no banner. There's a banner.
The in-season tournament banner is up there?
Championship banner.
Celebrate championship. Blast for me.
That shit down.
Blast for me.
But speaking of Lakers, we got to show some love to the man that many consider to be the
greatest point guard of all time.
You can't get mad at this one, Kane.
You have to support.
Magic Johnson celebrating his 65th birthday today.
Five-time champion, three-time
finals MVP, three-time MVP,
ten-time All-NBA selection, including
nine first teams. Magic ended his career
as the league's all-time assist
leader, but is now seventh on that list.
Still holds several career and single
season playoff assist records that
are damn near untouchable. So
his 2,346th career playoff
assist, nearly 300 more than the next closest player, which
is LeBron James.
And he holds the top two spots for the highest assists per game in a playoff run, 15.2 in
1985, 15.1 in 1986.
Also tied with Stockton for most assists in a single playoff game at 24.
He also has 10 playoff games with 20-plus assists in his career.
Magic also one of the most successful businessmen in league history,
building an empire through his company, Magic Johnson Enterprises.
And we've got to show some love for one of his most remarkable feats,
opening up a movie theater in the hood with unlimited strawberry soda refills.
So, unprecedented at the time.
Shout out to Magic Johnson Theaters in Baldwin Hills. Happy birthday. unprecedented at the time shot the magic Johnson theaters and bought with hills a great month a so what was
What was magic Johnson's impact on the game of basketball on and off the court and you know?
What is he oh shit? Just numbers playoff numbers read damn the regular season 15 point two assists per game during the 85 play
I mean you really just thinking about that all the play
Back then when it wasn't a lot of shooting
Right, it's all easy to do is all layups and one dribble one dribble to concern God
You might have B Scott coming off a curl maybe
Catch and shoot, but most of the time you
And you know and you and you got Kareem down there, bitch, and it's slow.
That's not an assist.
Cooper running.
That's not an assist.
Yeah, I average 15 to play out.
Big James.
Yeah, no, that's not hard, dog.
That is crazy.
The fact that he averaged while having Kareem.
Think about Tony Parker.
He has Duncan.
He has to pass the ball to Duncan.
So the fact that he has to pass the ball to Kareem and Kareem got to go through his
And Kareem lead the league in scoring. and Kareem lead the league of scoring he don't get no assists for I think some of those
but yeah not like the ones that come with the dump off but if you just pass it to it and Kareem do
this and then going to the that wasn't an assist back then how many points per game did they uh
average uh that year 118 uh 85 1985 let 1985. In that 15 points per game?
Let me see.
How many points a game
were they...
Give me one second.
80?
Is that 80 a game probably?
Hell no!
No, they was moving...
The 80s and the 60s,
they was moving fast as fuck.
Most of our record...
Most of the scoring records
are still from that era.
So, 126.3 points per game
during that 1985 playoffs.
15 games. That's what that makes sense. 120.5. Yeah, that game during that 1985 playoffs. 15 games.
That's what that makes sense.
120.
In 19 games.
Yeah, 120.
Yeah, that's what that makes sense.
That makes sense, though, right?
Like, they're moving 15 assists a game for a passing point guard.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's why, that's why.
Damn, I thought we was playing.
That's why the, what do they call them?
Shit, you know, I hate.
True, true percentage?
No, fuck that true.
That's bullshit.
The other one. Hmm. Oh
advance
Do what?
No, what do they use?
to shoot threes oh
The true shooting analytics true shooting percent
That's why analytics don't make sense of what they're doing because the era where they didn't shoot threes or didn't shoot a lot of threes are averaging more than you are now yes man you can't average more points they're
averaging more points and they didn't shoot all these threes like yeah layups and they got a
fifty-some percent is way better than three man drill layup three lay drill and one free throw
but that's what i said when you look at their analytics it don't make sense to history because
history without the three,
they're averaging more.
Yeah.
They're averaging more
than what you're doing.
Like, Magic Johnson and the 60,
they're moving way faster than you.
Do me a favor, Joe.
I don't know if you...
Look up the leading
three-point shooter,
like, in 1985.
How many threes did he shoot?
And think about how...
Three.
Think about how the...
Three or four.
Like, this is like,
how many, like,
throughout the season,
like, what was the top number?
Like, who you think, 1985?
Think about if the game's moving that fast, right,
and they're doing layups, three-man drill,
we're stopping at the three-point line to shoot that 35% shot,
which is slowing the game down.
It's actually slowing the game down.
It's just when you score it, it's worth more.
Just bowl.
We'd have been one of them shooting guards.
I don't know how many shots.
I just...
We are located.
Even, what is it?
88?
Tell me again what a true shooting percentage means.
88, you said?
You're looking at 85?
85.
85?
True shooting, I think it takes free throws, threes, and twos, and puts all those percentages
together.
Mike was in the league.
Let's see what you're...
What if you don't shoot three?
85.
That was Hodges.
Those three-point attempts was 257 by Darryl Griffith.
Most makes was Larry Bird.
Oh, no, Griffith had 92 makes on his 257 shots.
Yeah, but see...
250. That's unfair.
See, like even something like that,
there should be an asterisk or a whole other category
because that three was longer than the one since 95.
So it should be noted that these threes was a lot.
But like, what was that true percentage?
What does it mean?
Twos, threes, and free throws all put together.
Two, threes.
So basically, if you just shot all twos, what is your...
It'll just be whatever your field.
Whatever that percentage is.
Plus, I think free throw percentage.
It just more heavily weighs threes.
Okay, so let's try this.
Let's try this.
You're back on it.
Your true shooting percentage is the same no matter what you do it's just
a shooting percentage there's no such thing as true shooting percentage then
because if you take away the threes and he he's if he shoots from there it's
just a fucking two it's just like was before. But that's what...
So, if
your shooting percentage is
28%,
and you have a
three-point shooting percentage, it's still the same.
It's still the same.
It's all together.
You just usually take out the three-point shooter
to make it another category.
But whatever your shooting percentage is, everything is all added in together.
So that's still your true shooting percentage.
It doesn't change.
If you shoot a 36-footer, nigga, it's just worth two.
That's field goal.
He's saying the field goal percentage is both three and two.
But that's how they calculate.
But we've been over this.
If I go four for ten from two, that's eight points, right?
If I go four for ten from three, that's 12 points.
No.
Same ten shots.
It's still the same shot.
So if you shoot three for five from three and you shoot the rest from two,
the culmination of that percentage is going to come from the field goal percentage.
You're still going to say if I start eight for nine, it's still your field goal percentage.
So it's not a field goal percentage is over eight or nine is steal your field goal percentage So it's not a true shooting percentage if I'm eight for nine from two though versus eight for nine from three If you just take out the three points if you're just like that's the point
Oh, yes, but you're gonna shoot us to but it's if you take out three point shot
So so so we look at a stat sheet so we got. Just look at the stat sheet. So go look at the stat sheet.
So we got your name, the minutes you played, what minutes you played, your name.
Field goal percentage. Field goal percentage, right?
They got how many you was from the field.
Yep.
And then if you didn't, if you shot threes,
or just say like some game somebody just shot all threes.
It's 11 field goal shots no matter what.
It's still field goal.
It's field goal percentage.
Them same numbers would be in the three-point percentage.
You're just separating the percentage from the three.
So, like, okay, so Steph Curry shot 45%.
That's his field goal percentage.
Yep.
Right?
He shot 40% from the three.
Mm-hmm.
His field goal percentage overall is 45%.
His true field goal percentage is 45%.
You can't trick it. You can't trick it.
You can't trick it because if you take away the three,
those three-point shots that where he shot it from is still a two-pointer,
so it's still 45%.
But they're adding the free throw.
That's what makes the percentage.
No, they're adding the extra point on the three to make it seem like it's something new.
It's not.
Just like true percentage when there was no three-point. Because he made all threes and so you're trying to huh?
He made all threes in a day three is in that game. Yeah, it's still so
He made eight field goals, but if you would have made a twos
16 points it don't matter if you if you were going to three, but if you move a capital to feel
If you take away the three-pointer dummy reason shooting
45% You can't you can't add percentage on a theory
It's still for like the niggas before the three-point shooting contest came in right you know how y'all did this they did this
Stat and I was like that makes more sense than this one does
If you added the three-point line in we're on pistol Pete in them They're like well, he would have averaged this more many points
Right, but what is this his his true shooting percentage is the one you he has the field goal person
The one he has is still this you because there was no three-point line in but he still shoots from that far
It don't matter. It's still his shot. So if you take away the three-point line
Their field goal percentage is still the football
But you can't add more percentage to it because it's a three where his but his points per game would change
Because the threes are because it's you that's it his field goal like you guys would change points per shame
Not his field goal percentage. That's I said said, you guys are trying to outsmart.
You're trying to outsmart something to try to pretend to be smart.
No.
You can't do that.
You can't just add in shit like clutch shooting.
Clutch shooting.
Last three minutes, whatever.
How the fuck did y'all, not y'all,
how the fuck did they come up and make up a stat
within the last five minutes
if you under five points
every shot you make is a clutch shot
that's not how
fucking it works dog.
That's not how clutch shot
works man. Tell them.
Do they
count clutch free throws? So in the last
five minutes if I make 20 fucking free throws, does that count as clutch
points?
Now let's talk about that.
It counts as clutch points, and I never hit a clutch shot.
And I never hit a clutch shot.
But I got a whole bunch of points from the free throw line.
They gonna say you're not a clutch player.
And I'm a clutch player because I mean fucking free throws.
If you make free throws, within's in five? What's in five?
Five minutes does not,
five minutes does not do anything.
Well, if you hitting,
if you hitting seven out of seven
in that five minutes,
seven out of seven free throws.
Seven out of seven free throws,
but the other person made
seven out of seven free throws
so the score didn't move.
But we both became clutch players.
Yeah.
Sounds stupid.
If I miss one of those
and you made seven and I ended up
Missing one of those but I become the clutch you make like two
You make the three, mm-hmm
You make another two. Yeah, you make seven free throws. Mm-hmm. It's still seven fucking point
But which which point which which part of ours changed the game? They both some clutch to clutch the game
That's what it's like the same time frame though. To clutch the game. But it's in the same time frame, though.
He's saying the same time frame.
So the same time frame.
Same time frame.
I got a bucket of three.
And another bucket.
Another bucket.
That's seven points.
And he just went to the free throw line seven times.
Yeah.
The thing is, you stop the clock.
I keep my team in the game.
He's keeping his team in the game, too.
I'm keeping my game in the game.
Because they might have been down.
I'm thinking he's keeping his team up front. He's keeping his team in the game, too. I'm keeping my game in the game. Because they might have been down. I'm thinking he's keeping his team up front.
He's keeping his team in front of him.
Or up.
Either way it goes.
So I'm being more clutch because I'm hitting buckets.
I'm hitting field goals.
That's what people try to make it seem like.
But y'all got the same amount of points.
Of course.
But that's why I asked, what is clutch?
Clutch has to be moments and not steps.
And that's what I'm talking about.
Absolutely.
Like what Steph Curry did.
That's why I say
those four threes
were clutch.
Only one because of how did
that stat just came out in 2023.
Y'all made that up.
Like
T-Max, 13 points.
Yes.
13 points is clutch.
Every shot he made, he needed.
Yes.
Regardless of the score.
No matter what.
Because the first three he made wasn't considered clutch.
Right?
Then they missed something.
Then he scored another three.
Not considered clutch, right? Then they missed something. Then he scored another three. Not considered clutch.
When you add it all together,
every point he needed now,
all of it became
a clutch performance.
Well, I would say
in like the Olympics
gold medal game,
some of Steph's threes
were outside of that
five-point window.
Yeah, but they all
became clutch because
he hit a three
to put him up five
or put him up six. He hit a three. He hit a three to put them up five or put them up six.
He hit a three.
He hit a three.
They missed.
He came down and hit a three.
That shot is more clutch, too.
Kevin Durant's three.
Kevin Durant's three.
And a two-pointer.
Joel Embiid pull up.
Yeah.
All of it.
Because they were like, well, they're up six and he hits a
three that's not clutch did you see the look on their face demoralized fuck demoralized we needed
him to miss that that that that shot right there made the other team quit man clutch clutch stop
trying to invent shit that's why no nba player agrees with you guys when you guys are creating these stats.
There's nobody else that says, oh, that makes sense.
Because that's not how you value it.
It's how the moment looks.
Like when someone says Kobe's 81.
If we let you say it, right?
If y'all say it, you're going to be like, oh, he only had like five clutch points.
Shit.
Let the NBA players rule go through the game and say,
yeah, he needed the whole fourth quarter.
He needed all this shit right here.
He went and got it.
He went and got it.
He needed all these motherfucking points.
I was watching this shit in real time.
Yeah.
Because we was playing Toronto the next game.
Right?
In Denver, we was playing Toronto the next game. I? In Denver, we was playing Toronto the next game.
I'm watching Toronto.
Of course, I'm watching my...
Oh, this
motherfucker only on one.
What?
That's what I said. Let NBA
players create
this. Like, talk to a group of NBA
players and let them stop trying
to create... Because most of this stuff comes from
trying to keep
Trying to keep legacy right I'm pretty sure if we just really figure out why
The clutch thing came in is because probably LeBron
Had all these clutch points and then he was trying to figure out how to minimize most of them
But I don't count these because then he did this and then that's why they call themselves
clutch sports the fuck with y'all right that's the reality of it you think they named their company
clutch sports for reasons because it was to combat the dumb shit y'all was trying
right it's it's a performance it's how it's how looks. It has nothing to do with time.
The time matters.
We're up 20 points, right?
And the game is over.
Then you come in and you go on a 20-0 run.
Yeah, and your new wording, maybe only two points is clutch.
From the basketball standpoint, the 20-0 run was the clutch.
Like them 25-point LeBron scored straight on the piston.
Yeah.
That's clutch.
Clutch is fuck.
Clutch is fuck.
That's clutch.
Clutch.
Clutch is fuck.
It's clutch.
So let me ask y'all this.
What do you think about Drew Holiday?
You think he's a clutch player?
Yes.
Yeah.
I think he's, and defensively, what he did to Indiana.
He makes game-winning plays.
What he did to Indiana, that steal on nine.
He makes game-winning plays.
Yeah, game-winning plays. He makes game-winning plays. What he did in Indiana, that steal on them hearts. Game-winning plays.
He makes game-winning clutch plays.
Absolutely.
Like Brunson and all that, like what Brunson did in the playoffs, man.
You can't narrow it down to down five.
And like, what the fuck, going to 10-0 run himself?
That is clutch.
Put him away.
Put him away.
When your coach says, go put him away, man.
Yeah, it's fucking clutch.
I brought up stuff. we talked about the Olympics but earliest morning on first take
Chris Mad Dog Russo ripped Steph and the rest of Team USA's Olympic squad saying the following
I am sick of this USA basketball on the men's side making a big deal about winning a gold medal
Steph Curry putting people to sleep the most significant gold medal in basketball. We ever won was in
1976 this current team USA squad they beat Evan Fournier
Is Mad Dog spitting or tripping about?
You know he's sitting
19
I want to be hearing that shit people don't be wanting to hear because they just want to be like yo we won
It's a win. It's a medal is this is that but it's like at But it's like, at the end of the day, Mad Dog say, y'all
beat Aaron Fournier, man. Y'all niggas
need to move around. An NBA player.
Oh, who they beat?
No, I'm talking...
Who they beat in 1976 then?
Huh?
Who?
We beat Paris? Okay, then
then fuck what
he said. We beat Paris. In Paris. And and we just gonna throw out the whole team name.
Which player? Cause we know, what he say? Fournier?
Yes I'm Fournier.
Who was on Yugoslavia again?
We think it was, oh it wasn't Vladi he wasn't born yet. I don't think he was born yet.
Mirza, Demi Vlasic, Drazen, Dany Pogic, Zarko, Maradjic, Damir, Solman, we get it a bunch of motherfuckers
Oh, I remember that. Okay. Okay Walter Davis, Quinn Buckner, Ernie Greenfield, Kenneth Carr, Scott May, Tate Armstrong,
Tom Carver, Robert, and Vince
Koczek.
This was 1976
was the most important
championship? I mean, according to
Chris Maddog, it was. Okay, they beat Puerto Rico
by one.
That is true, Gil.
They beat a team 2-0. The team forfeited. They forfeited.
Beat Czechoslovakia by five. And they beat a team by five. What makes this team important?
There was not one NBA player on this team, probably, right? Of course, NBA guys, but.
No, there was no NBA. All college. I'm not a historian. Who, USA? Was this doing like the Cold War thing?
Yeah, that's what he said.
He said it was important because they lost in 72 and they came back in 76 and won.
That's what's up.
We lost in 04 and came back in 08 and won.
He's just saying that that one's better than that one.
Of course.
You want to minimize anything that has a...
The end of what he said makes perfect sense.
And this is why I can't respect what he's saying.
He said he was rooting for France to win.
He's an American reporter who reports on American basketball players rooting for them to lose.
That right there,
I can't respect what you're saying then
because it comes with a jaded mind.
No, Gio.
He said...
We're covering basketball.
You're not covering...
I'm rooting for...
I'm rooting for the USA to lose
as a reporter.
That means no matter what the fuck
happened in the game, he don't care.
But what you're telling me, you're telling me
that I have to root for you.
No, I'm not saying you have to root for me.
But you're saying you're rooting against him.
I'm not saying you...
You're saying if I don't root for France,
I have to root for the United States.
No, I'm saying you're picking...
Because I'm from here.
No, you're saying you're picking this team.
That means anything this team do,
you don't give a fuck. so why do we care what you're
saying? Because it's a better story.
No, if they lose, it's a better story.
But they didn't lose, so why do I
care? So that means your
narrative was hoping they lose
so you can fuck them up.
Because it's not impressive.
They won. It's not impressive.
They won, so I'm not impressed.
I'm not impressed.
Yeah, so that's why.
So he couldn't go in on them, so that's why he says his little stick is not impressive.
So your narrative is already written no matter what.
Because it wasn't impressive.
Of course it isn't.
Because you're not impressed.
No, because it wasn't impressive.
It's never been impressive.
No, it has been.
No, 92.
Tell me somebody who they played in 92.
It was impressive.
I guarantee you, Foyer would have been who they played in 92. It was impressive.
Fourier, I guarantee you, Fourier would have been better than anybody they played.
It was impressive in 08.
Fourier would have been the best player the 92 team would have played.
It was impressive in 08.
And it was impressive in 2012.
That was when it was impressive.
Then he should have said that then.
He didn't.
He should have said that. Because he ain't me.
He should have said that. He ain't me. He should have said that. Because he ain't me. He should have said that.
He ain't me.
It was impressive back then when they dominated,
which is the expectation that they have now.
When who dominated?
When you don't dominate.
U.S.
When you don't dominate, it looks unimpressive.
But there's more NBA players around the world now, man.
Of course.
Than there was back then.
Just the same shit I was saying.
Your roles.
This man talking about.
Your roles. He wouldn't have been
the best player in 76 or 92.
I mean,
why are we pretending him?
Like he was an NBA player.
They didn't even have him
in them then.
We all know
it was unimpressive though.
But why do you say
Evan Fournier and not Wimby?
Because Evan's been there
longer.
Or Gobert.
Evan's been the longer
tenured NBA player.
So it's like
he's the one that like you beat because everybody knows when be
Good everybody knows women. That's why I went for you and for you. It sounds a lot funnier
You know it does especially when you look up the
Especially when you look up the baby that they beat me on
To make his point
That's why I used Fournier, because it's got to prove a point.
Just get them niggas up out of there.
We won't have nothing to say.
Just get them up out of there.
Everybody beat them by 40, and we chilling.
Is that realistic, though, in this day and age with the growth of the game
and all the NBA players that are competing?
The first three games, what did you win by?
Yeah.
Less NBA players on those teams. Huh? Yeah, but like I said, it's? Yeah. Less NBA players on those teams.
Huh?
Yeah, but like I said, it's very casual.
Less NBA players on that team.
So those teams look like the teams that everybody else beat,
but we're talking about there's eight and ten NBA players on these teams.
Let's stop pretending.
Let's stop pretending.
There's Andres Poirier and Wimby.
Go Bear.
And then you go in there, you say, listen, man, beat them.
Y'all got 12 high-caliber NBA players. And theyimby. Gobert. And then you go in there, you say, listen, man, beat them niggas by a quarter.
Y'all got 12 high-caliber NBA players.
And they got 10.
And they shouldn't stick around.
Because they got 10.
Because they the Euro, right?
No, you're comparing them to a team that there was no NBA players against the 92 team, dog.
Them niggas look like they played in the motherfucking YMCA league.
You needed Hail Marys to beat them.
Who? France. You needed Hail Marys to beat them. Who?
France.
You needed Hail Marys.
Show, show, can, can, who was the,
who was the best player outside of the USA in 92?
Dino, Dino, Dino, what was Dino Rodgett?
Dino Rodger.
Dino Rodger.
We played Kukor.
I know my motherfucker.
We played Kukor to 92. I know my motherfucker. We played Kukoc in 92.
I know my nigga.
Arvitas Sabonis.
Jordan Pettis held him on zero.
Held him on zero.
That was the best player.
Nigga, they held him zero.
Arvitas.
Dino Rajah.
Motherfucker.
So someone named...
Oscar Schmidt.
Oscar Schmidt.
Oscar Schmidt.
Drazen, I believe.
All-time.
All-time.
He don't know.
He don't know his name.
Different teams.
Right?
Kukoc was the best player on this team.
They held him to zero.
You had Petrovich as well on that.
On that same team?
No.
Oh, I said the same team.
So he had zero.
Right?
So that means the rest of the team was so sorry that they could narrow land on one guy
and hold him to zero.
Mm-hmm.
So was Tony Koo Coach Jokic?
Mm-hmm.
Was Tony Koo Coach Luka? Mm-hmm. Was was Tony Kukoc Jokic? Mm.
Was Tony Kukoc Luka?
Mm.
Was he Greek the Freak?
Aaron Fournier.
Or he was Aaron Four... He was Aaron Fournier.
Aaron Fournier.
Aaron Fournier.
He's Aaron Fournier.
He got down.
And he scored zero.
Aaron Fournier, how much he had?
Like 19?
Fournier?
And this...
I'm going to? He had zero.
Come on, man.
Fournier had eight points.
18?
Eight.
In the gold medal.
They narrowed in on him, right?
They narrowed in on him.
Man, they had their jerseys from in the stands, man.
They bought their shit from the gift shop.
One thing the USA couldn't do is guard their goddamn boy. They play European basketball all the time in Spain. And they're the gift shop. They bought that shit from the gift shop, man. One thing the USA couldn't do
is guard that goddamn boy
that played European basketball
all the time in Spain.
I'll tell you that one.
Who, Yabusele?
Yeah, goddamn.
Gershon?
He was busting that ass.
Benyay Wilders,
if they were calling him?
He was, hey.
But that's just...
You can tell he played over there.
He, hey.
He was ducking in at times.
Oh, yeah.
He know it.
He know it.
That's what I'm saying.
We're judging.
You're saying there's more NBA players and not giving them credit for battling against NBA, more NBA players on these European teams.
And you keep going back to a time where there was no NBA player.
It was an AAU.
It was so sorry that we, It was college the years before that.
Like, come on, what are we talking about?
Our college teams used to win gold,
and then you throw out the 92 team,
they win by 40, you're like...
But you wouldn't dare do that shit now.
What?
Take them college motherfuckers over there
and try to play for gold.
No.
You wouldn't dare.
But see, that's where it's changed.
The audacity... Every other country... You're saying it. You're't dare. No. But see, that's where it's changed. The audacity. Every other country.
You're saying it. You're saying it.
The players got better. You can't throw college.
The audacity that you had to do it
back then, it's because you knew
that they didn't have no talent.
You don't have the audacity to do it now.
You know them niggas can play.
So why are we not giving credit to the fact
that we can't throw college, but you're giving
credit to the people who basically played against some teams, college teams could have beaten. I'm giving credit to the fact that we can't throw college, but you're giving credit to the people who basically
played against some teams college teams could have been.
I'm giving credit to the Europeans
of 2024 that has developed their games
enough to scare the fuck out of the motherfuckers
to come out and throw Hail Marys to win games
when they're supposed to be the dominant, the most
dominant team. Who threw Hail Marys?
Steph Curry.
That didn't mean we was winning the game.
Y'all acting like we was losing to some
We wasn't losing
Y'all had to make dating the niggas had to make shots to win. We y'all ever lose another France
What we saw you say y'all is if you do not have an American passport
Have a world pass what I'm saying is he acting he's acting like he's acting the same reason the same reason
They're not trying to bring in next episode
They're not they're not trying to give Steph credit because it was a good shot, but they had to make shots
He made shots 30. They still had to make points. He they still had to make shots
To win the game every Steph Curry game. Just you still had to make shot. We just can't give you automatic points
How much they lose by?
They lost by 9 We just can't give you automatic points. How much did they lose by?
They lost by... Nine.
Eleven.
Eleven, okay.
Amanda made the point that the USA was 16-point favorites.
They won by 11.
Yeah, fuck what they favored.
But I'm just saying, like, it was a closed game or something.
Yeah, fuck what they was favored by.
You're talking about comparing us teams to people who...
We just bring the college teams to beat these guys.
Like, the USA was the first,
the 92 team was the first team
that was pros. Just do better.
These motherfuckers, these motherfuckers
had knives. We came out with all bazookas
and we giving them fuckers credit.
Boom, boom, boom, boom. They said
oh shit, we didn't know this was a
gunfight.
Yeah, but a bazooka's supposed to take everybody out.
You're supposed to take everybody out.
We over here like this.
They smart enough now to bring their own goddamn guns to this fight.
Yeah.
The 92 team, they didn't know what hit them.
Y'all bazookas now ain't the same power that it was then.
No, because we selling them guns too.
Exactly.
They got bazookas now too.
Yeah, because we selling.
America's selling. We giving you players too. Yeah, because we selling. America's selling.
We giving you players too.
Yeah, yeah.
He was born in America.
He was born in Watts.
But his great-great-granddaddy's sister-in-law married to the uncle.
Daddy's side, he's French, so he can play for y'all.
That's what we doing now.
Y'all don't want him.
We're selling y'all players now.
Y'all saying we don't want him.
Y'all saying we don't want him.
Yeah, we don't need him, but you can use him.
And he's out there like, yeah, I can shoot 35 shots.
I can go shoot at them.
I can go shoot at them.
I can sit here and do this to the nigga.
Shit, give me this.
Hey, every American player, every, listen, every bench player,
every bench player that's a six-man sitting there like this,
I can't wait to play the USA.
I can't wait to play the USA because I get to be the nigga I got to sit and watch every day.
Facts.
Facts.
I get to be Trey Young.
I don't got to watch him no more.
Now you know my name.
My name is Boggy Boggy.
Patty Mills.
My name is Patty Mills.
Boggy Boggy.
Patty Mills.
I got my name now.
I got my name now. Goddamn.
I made my name off y'all niggas out there.
Hitting the mellow.
Patty Mills is probably top five heroes all time.
All time.
For sure.
Because when he get to go there, he get to be the best player his country need.
He get to take every shot.
I'm going to disagree with that and say you are absolutely wrong.
Patty Mills is not a top five hero all time.
Not a top ten year all time
Well, I mean we don't know he well because he's not
strong
No
Three years for this moment.
So let's bask and celebrate it.
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So, we got a video question
from a friend of the program,
BMAC32.
In a two-on on two playoff style tournament
who win the best father son
duo
so in a two on two
playoff style tournament
are we talking hypothetical here huh
all time two on two father son
basketball tournament I mean we gotta
put Brian and Bronny as the number one seed
I would imagine
current player you said current player all time I mean, we got to put Brian and Bronny as the number one seed, I would imagine. Get the fuck out of here.
Current player?
You said current player? Kenyon and KJ.
Who is going to get number one?
He said all-time father.
He was an all-time.
All-time father.
So who would win an all-time two-on-two father-son basketball tournament?
All-time.
Everybody's.
Everybody's.
You got Dillon Steph.
You got Clay and Michael.
You got Kenyon and KJ.
Brian and Bronny.
Does the son have to be in the NBA?
Rick and Brent.
I was about to throw him in there Shack and my second second
Never made it in behind
He did make it some yeah, so I got the Pippen's he has got an NBA check before he got the Piri's
You got the courage got the Martins
We got the Ewing's Hardaway's
The berries We got the Martins. We got the Ewings. Hardaways. Hardaway. The Berries.
Throw it down here.
The Waltons.
The Waltons.
Throw it down here.
Kenyon.
Throw the ball down here.
Ain't nobody out here.
Rick and Jalen Brooks.
Throw the ball down here.
Against any of them.
They're all guards.
Everybody you name it.
Yeah, Kobe and Jelly. D- Joey Wade. No, no, no
Throw the ball down here was jelly bean good good
Throw the ball down the Johnson's come on girl
We're close. Thank God
If coach wasn't ahead
Yeah, throw the ball the Wilkins. Yeah, you can
Get throw the ball here. The Wilkins, yeah, you can throw. Yeah, throw the ball here.
Everybody you name.
Everybody you name.
Oh, the Sabonises.
Them some big motherfuckers.
They slow though.
Two of them, two big motherfuckers.
I'm going to dance, I'm going to attack you.
Y'all the most athletic one by far, like crazy.
We going to Clay and his daddy.
GP and GP.
Too small.
Everybody else is guards.
Everybody's guards.
Bonus is the...
What's his name?
Jalen Rose and his pops.
Samaki Walker and his son.
Samaki.
Samaki Walker and his son.
Jaron Jackson.
Jaron Jackson Jr.
Jabari. Yeah, yeah. That's, Jaron Jackson Jr. Jabari.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a tall, that's a big ass team.
Jabari Walker.
That's a big ass team, Jabari Smith and his partner.
Did Bronson's pops play there?
Yeah, yeah.
The legend, Rick.
The guards.
They're two guards, they're two guards.
They're two little guards.
Two little guys, they're two little, yeah.
Hey, they didn't do an NBA Jam with just father and sons.
Oh, what here?
Oh, NBA, oh, we be, what? He's on fire! Everybody else is guards. I didn't do an NBA Jam or just father-son
Everybody else is guards. Yeah
But who is winning that of that come on taking me in cage it and it'd be them with us a bonuses
The Martin versus the bonuses and the two are two other dudes too small man and two on two Yeah, I'm just throw that bitch down and we here. And we can guard. Because they can guard. And we can guard.
So we can guard anybody.
Me and KJ can guard.
But Kobe and Jelly Bean, no?
We can guard them.
I put KJ on Jelly Bean.
I guard Bean.
Right.
You're going to score, but he's going to have to guard me on the block.
He's going to be a...
He might score, but you listen.
Is it keep it?
No, they ain't making it.
I mean, yeah, Walters be too slow.
George Carl and Kobe Carl?
Both of them.
Both of them get knocked out.
That's a match-up.
That's a match-up.
I was about to say something.
I'm glad y'all stepped in because y'all stopped me from saying what I was about to say.
Yeah, we got you.
We got you, big dog.
Yeah, I'm glad y'all stepped in.
Both of them about to get fucked up.
Yeah, I don't give a shit.
Listen.
Right through the chest. First. Right through the chest.
First play right through the chest.
First play.
Boom!
To the block.
Appreciate y'all as always.
That is our show for today.
Thank you to everybody in the chat.
Let's go, Philly.
Plugging in with us in the middle of August.
We don't got basketball for a cool minute,
but y'all still rocking over with us.
I need to get a football team.
I might just go with the Rams.
You got two here right in your city.
Rams.
I'm going to go to Rams.
We need to pull up with some Rams games, though.
Support.
Yeah, we'll go to Rams.
Yeah, you got two.
Underdog, make that happen.
Yeah, you got two right in your city.
That is possible.
San Francisco.
Dylan, make that possible.
Yeah, that's a good pick for you.
That won't be a bad pick, neither.
That's a good pick for you.
San Francisco won't be a bad pick.
But I can't go to the game.
Ooh, they said Bo Bo and Manute, too. I got to throw that in as the last.
You can go with the tall-ass lineup.
All right.
And Manute with the slingshot three.
Yeah.
Woo.
Both of them shoot the same.
Mm-hmm.
Well, we appreciate y'all.
McGee and Pam McGee.
No.
Tatum and Tatum and Tatum.
That's C.D.
That's C.D., bro.
She's still a pro. That's real. Cool. That's C.D., bro. She's still a pro.
That's real.
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