Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena PREDICTS Who Will Be The NBA Cup Champions

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Gil's Arena PREDICTS Who Will Be The NBA Cup Champions as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to the arena and preview the final game of the NBA Cup where the Oklahoma City Thunder take on the Milwaukee Bucks to see who will win the ultimate prize of Adam Silver's midseason tournament. They discuss how a win will cement Giannis Antetokounmpo, Damian Lillard and Doc Rivers' impressive turnaround and break down how this test in a playoff environment is exactly what Shai Gilgeous Alexander and his young OKC Thunder teammates need as they shift their focus to the NBA Playoffs. They also react to another vintage James Harden performance as the beard dropped 40 for the 2nd time this season and debate if he's getting enough credit for this Los Angeles Clippers season, before breaking down how Kawhi Leonard's return could change everything for the Clippers and Harden's elite bucket getting. Next, they return to South Beach to check back in on the Jimmy Butler trade rumors and discuss if the Miami Heat are playing too well to trade their superstar or if they're simply waiting it out for a bigger deal to materialize. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to another highlight reel performance from Ja Morant and debate if the Denver Nuggets championship is still open with Nikola Jokic & Jamal Murray as the franchise cornerstones. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Get Your Ugly Sweaters HERE!! - https://gilsarenamerch.com/collections/holiday-sweaters Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Head To https://aura.watch/ for Up To 50% Sitewide Until 2025 Download the Playback app or go to https://playback.tv/gilbertarenas to watch The NBA Cup Championship with Gil and Josiah at 5:30pm PT/8:30 pm ET SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:02 Gil vs Swaggy vs Mr B In Madden 0:04:37 18th Anniversary Of Gil's 60 on Kobe 0:12:08 Kobe vs MJ vs LeBron..Who is The Lead Dog? 0:19:44 Ja Morant's Beef With The Nets Coach 0:42:21 Worst Trash Talkers They Played Against 0:52:43 Is The Nuggets Championship Window Closed? 1:00:37 Are You Buying the Pistons Rebuild? 1:11:32 More Jimmy Butler Trade Rumors 1:24:04 NBA Cup Predictions 1:43:01 Doc Rivers' Throat Guy 1:55:42 Gil's Arena Spins Santa's Wheel 1:58:34 Marcellus Wiley Enters The Arena 2:04:47 What's Next For The Clippers? 2:06:08 The Arena Battles Over Charles Barkley's Impact 2:21:58 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yo, that's crazy, right? I wanna do all that. For real. Oh, you too. It's crazy, right? I'm going to do all that. For real. Oh, you can never go, huh? Who? Fuck my bad. You go where? Nowhere, nowhere.

No. That is not. Shut up. No, no, because I didn't know you were talking to me. Because I know it says Phelan, but that though, it's not the same. Expunged, which you're good? No, I'm Gilbert Arenas.

Okay. That's way bigger. Oh, you... Come on in, Mr. Arenas. You trying to get me with you. Go on in, Mr. Arenas. Trying to get me with you, Michelle. Hey, this is what I do.

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As always, we got the legend Gilbert Reed is here with us. NBA champion of the world. And best Madden player on the couch. Play my theme music. Swaggy P. That's how I do every goddamn thing in that game. Busting your ass? Nick Young is back in the building.

Like the time piece, Nick? This is embarrassing, man. Last night, I was lit playing Busting Your Ass last night. Pause, all pause, no pause, really no pause how I was doing all in that ass. I was all in it. Quadruple pause. I was so deep in it, yo.

And representing Tough Crowd and Tough Crowd University, we have Mr. B, Brandon Jannicks, in the building. Woo! Woo! So if you notice, Mr. B got an extra round of applause for our cast because he came through bearing Christmas gifts, tons of tough crowd merchandise. Appreciate you guys.

No doubt, no doubt. All the family to enjoy. And Giannis rocking the tough crowd out in Vegas. You know what day it is? You know what time it is? You know where we at in Vegas? You know what time it is today? Got that green hat on for a reason.

The second hardest NBA cup in league history. Money Green. What's your record against him? In Madden. I don't know. We be having some good games. Good games. So you experience kind of the same thing, right? Like, you playing a full game.

We ain't played a full game yet. Like, he throws one good pass, to him, he won the game. Is that how it sounds on the game? Right? Makes like a 15-yard catch. You can't stop me! That's him, right?

Of course. Who don't talk trash? Winners? I don't think he never won. Remember, he said he was doing what yesterday? He was doing what yesterday? Ask him, did he actually win the game? He was doing a lot of stuff that I will not repeat.

I am 21, 25 and 1 against him. Not two and a half? 25 and 1. Stop, stop. Like, you shouldn't even talk. This month, this past two weeks, I'm 10 and 0, 11 and 0. You got one win. What is it?

I can tell you the score. That's all I can say is dope and dog food. What was the score you beat me? Your win. 22-20. No, your win. Game winning field goal. No, your win.

Your first win. What was the score? Your first win. What was your score? I don't even know your name right now. Gil. Your first win. What was the score?

Gil Berto. Your first win. What was your first win? I'm talking about your first win. I'm talking about your first win. That's very old, though. What was your first win? 35-14. Okay, didn't I just say that? But did I not win talking about your first win. In Espanola. What was your first win? 35-14.

Okay, didn't I just say that? But did I not win? Be honest, though. Let's be honest. Like, really be honest. No. Well, we got a lot to get into. No, no, no.

Be honest. We relax. Be honest. This is your show. I will relax as much as you want. Like, don't be honest, though. Like, for real. I could go relax at the crib as long as that check comes.

Listen, I texted this yesterday, right? Oh, my God. The score is 6-14. He quit, right? Because he got stopped. He wrote, and I quote, I was on the goal line and you quit. You remember he wrote that, right?

Mm-hmm. He don't see the picture says Baltimore ball first and 10. He don't know that that's what it actually says claiming that I quit 25 and one dog if you want to get out that way if you want to not win 24 and 2 24 and 2 this man has two wins walking 24 and 2. This man has two wins, walking around like he the champ. Finally, y'all here, right? He's been lying all week.

He's been lying all week. You did say one win, Gil. He has one win. I said I can give him his second win if he wants a win. It's 25 to 2. He is the Washington Wizards. He gets a win.

He wants a champagne party. You supposed to be 1A. You supposed to be the GOAT. I'm never supposed to win. You haven't. Shit. Nah, Brandon's supposed to be number one. He is one.

He 1A in our conference, you know. This is, listen. He got a section. This is, they're fighting for 1A and 1B of the worst players. No, no, no, no. These two right here. Damn. I'm gonna pitch these. the worst players. No, no, no, no. These two right here.

Damn. I'm going to pitch this. No, not even. No, not even. Oh, so you 1A? Brandon came after me. 1B, worst man player on the couch. I love Brandon.

I can't be. There's other people that play. Brandon get a good win. He play. This is my team now. Then I would be like, that team. Oh, I feel good about this team. This is my team now.

I'm trying to find a team. I see. I can't pick my Raiders. We ain't got no damn body. It ain't the team. It's you. No, it's the team. I went with Miami last night. You went to Miami? Oh, I was going to say, why you won't go back to Miami to try the long bombs? He said, this is my team now. All you got to do is hit the quarterback.

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in what will be known as the second hardest NBA Cup in league history? Cup, but which squad will follow the Lakers' footsteps by walking away with the chip in what will be known as the second-hardest NBA Cup in league history? Jimmy Buckets has been trolling the heat amidst all the trade rumors. Will Butler be keeping his talents in South Beach for the rest of the season? Jimmy! No! Not looking good right now. And James Harden dropped his second 40-point game this season to help keep the Clippers

in the playoff hunt. Does DeBeer deserve more credit for his leadership this season? I think so, but we will discuss. Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GILL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, GILL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app.

Did you win? LaMelo betrayed you yesterday, GILL you win? LaMelo betrayed you yesterday, Gil. I know you... Huh? LaMelo betrayed you yesterday. You took the higher 24.5 points, right? Mm-hmm. Almost.

I told you it was his first game in the pack. Gil, you're going all NBA today to salute the NBA Cup championship. You got SGA, higher 11.5 rebounds and assists. Jalen Williams, higher 2.5 first quarter points. I actually like that one. Brooke Lopez, higher, one quarter, one rebound in the first. I'm taking it.

I know, that's a rough one. That's a gamble. That's a gamble right there. That's a gamble. In the first quarter? Yeah, yeah, that's a gamble. But since Hartenstein is down there, you kind of keep him close to the basket so he can fuck around and get one.

And Bobby Porter's higher 19.5 points rebound assist like that one as well. If he don't get one rebound, bro. The Brook Lopez one is the one I'm like, you know what? The fact that that's even up there, though. That means, damn, bro, you don't even go get a rebound in the first quarter. Go get a rebound, bro. That's a big, though. Like, just one.

Like, just one. Just get one. Come rebound, Brooke. That's a big, though. Like, just one. Like, just one. Just get one. Come on, Brooke. One rebound. All threes, bro. All threes. But you can't. Bro, you can get one rebound in 12 minutes.

Like, I'm just thinking, like, all right, get it. Hardenstein get, like, an offensive rebound, try to put it back up, and then he miss it, he get the rebound. That's how I'm in visual. And just, boom. Like a tip. Boom. Just one of them tips. Get it back. He got to space out because Gian rebound. That's how I'm in visual and just like

Get it back you got a space out. Yeah, that's got a job I know I'm talking about on defense and like hopefully he can I just like Give up the offensive rebounds and hopefully get the miss. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair So unfortunately, we asked the chat are they riding or fading with your pigs? I'm gonna wait a little bit more to help Got the mail-in ballots Are they riding or fading with your picks? I'm gonna wait a little bit more to help. Is that bad? We got the mail-in ballots. Damn. It's getting better. It's getting better. I'm trying to figure out which one.

47% said they're riding. 53% said the nay-no to your partner pack. But there's already 359 entries. So you got some support. Who has the 350 entries? Up out there. No, that's when I took the picture. Oh, so we more now.

Gil, you got love. Underdog got love for Gil. Hold on. Let it be known. Let's see what it look like in real life. Yeah, let me see. I'm about to make mine right now. So, Brooke Lopez averaging 2.7 points, 1.4 rebounds in the first quarter of this season, Gil.

Wait, wait, what? He's averaging 1.4 rebounds in the first quarter of this season. Okay, okay. You might be on to some. All right, I got... Where's my partner package at? They phased you out. It had like 2,000 when I looked at it.

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available on Apple, Spotify wherever you get your podcasts so Gil today special day in the lore of Agent Zero. Today is the 18th anniversary of one of the most special moments of your career. Today's the anniversary of you dropping 60 against Kobe and the Lakers. Today is 17th?

Mm-hmm. 17th? That what it is. Yeah, yeah. That what it is. I didn yeah. That's what it is. I didn't even... Good job, Gil. We got some of those highlights.

Call me, stop me. Nope. In super standard definition. A lot of contact on that. Oh, that's why... Call me, get back. That's why you dropped six. Uh-huh.

Oh, okay. Look at that 54 down there. Supposed to be a rim protector. My ass. Great number. Who's that? Smith-Spark? Uh-huh.

I don't know who that is. Uh-huh. You know me. I look at the back... The back line of the defense. Does... Hey. Does not... Protected my great number You know me I look at the back the back line of the defense Hey, it does not be a Kobe did not appear to be able one in any of the first this the first half Look at Jordan's First half No, I'm said the graph like we used to watch this back in the day and think it was a I mean right there That's me boom This was as he got me boom right there. Oh, no, but I don't have like another version like a HD today You got me right here. You try to switch off

This basic as me, you know, I'm saying like today so, you know, I know it kind of looks like Okay, that one was actually in Kobe's room. All of it is this right? You got to count all that it that's that one four threes right there. That's that one right there Well, you know, you feel it's again right here. Oh, I scored all 14 of him one. That's a foul Easy work Back door got you again. Go ahead, bro. Bop. Bind him.

Watch out. Bind him. Easy work. Easy work. Easy, peasy. There's you again. Come on. That's a dub right there.

So, Gil, you played 49 minutes in that overtime thriller. You play with ankle socks on. All right. Damn. You a pressure. Take the bow. You're a straight hooper. That's playing with ankle socks?

Take the bow. Goddamn. You played 49 minutes in that overtime thriller. You were 17 for 32 from the field, 5 for 12 from three, 21 for 27 from the line. And perhaps your most impressive feat, you actually had eight assists in that game as well. So you were actually passing the ball at a rate more than you. I passed the ball.

You more like a gift ball. It's not the players who was the deserving of it. You more like, huh, man, you didn't really pass. You more like a young player. Fumbled it in somebody else. Hit off your knee. Oh, my bad. You know, there was two other people that averaged 20 also on my team, right?

Off the rebound. No. No, it was just, it was the big three. One of y'all rebounds is crazy. It was the big three. What do y'all believe about this? It was the big three, and then everybody else. You know who people should take some of his game is Antoine Jamison. Them damn floaters. So, Gil, at what point did you know it was going to be a special night?

You didn't? Back home. I don't know. I don't is like I Like uh Like when people talk about the 60 wasn't like it was a One of those games that just stood out like I didn't know I had 60 points. Yeah, no idea that you know It wasn't like that because I'm sitting at the free throw line a lot

Right people don't take in account of free throws to if you're guarding me and I'm sitting at the free throw line a lot. People don't take into account free throws, too. If you're guarding me and I got 27 free throws, that is part of points. That is part of you guarding me. I'm putting your team in foul trouble. Y'all got to sit. So you take 27 free throws, make 21 of them. So me saying I had a hell of a game, didn't you didn't feel it i always had a great game against the lakers like when people say this is what you averaged against kopey remember you're

factoring in my rookie season too you're factoring in when i didn't know how to play and i wasn't playing and no those factor in into that those factor in when I got hurt and I got to play those games. When I went to Washington and you take my Washington, my prime, I was averaging 33 against the Lakers. It was easy work. Very easy. I killed Lakers. I killed Suns.

And I killed Golden State every time. I think you had 54 against the Suns a few days later. Those were my three teams that I don't give a fuck what was going on. I had a good game against them. How much did they say you average without, with your... With my rookie season and them hurt years? 24. Oh, that's good, too, though.

I know. That's what I'm saying. If I'm averaging 24 and shooting 39% and you're adding in my rookie season, my second season and then my hurt years... Somebody just said something that made you... No, that's how when people, when they... Oh. You know, they go there and they look at...

I'm doing it right now. You got to look at each individual game. Yeah. Somebody probably got in for 30 seconds, a minute. But 24, 5, and 5 in 16 total games against the Lakers in your career, nothing... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Remember, I played in Golden State,

so we played them four times as a rookie, four times as a sophomore, right? Those was... That's... You got to go to when I was aging, you know, go to my Washington years. It was easy work, man. Okay. Even the game after the 60 when they came in, 39 good ones.

Watch out. Damn. How much I average against the Lakers? Four. You're crazy as hell. I bet I average more than you. What, against the Lakers? What is your career high?

18, but... Your career... No, your career can't be 18 is your career high? 18, but I'm talking about FTC. No, your career high is not 18. So, Nick, in 15 career games against the Lakers, you averaged 16 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists. That's in your entire career, though. Oh, come on. I'm talking about against the...

on the East Coast, being on the East. But you did give the Lakers a 30 piece, a 230 pieces. Whoo! And a 25. Those L.A. boys go back home, get to work. Those two combined equal Gil 60. OK.

Now, it don't matter. We don't look at that. Those two combined. What'd you do to the Cali teens? Because you're a Cali kid. So what'd you do? I know you gave one 50. That's when you took the, uh.

55. Nick, career high. 43 points versus the Kings. I'm sure you remember. LA team. Cali team. That's when you took my, uh, the shoes. What? No, no, no. I gave Nick. No, noi team. You took the shoes. What?

No, no, no. I gave Nick. No, no, no. By the time you got there, I was already done. I know. That's when I had 30. You was giving me the ball. See, yo, boy. You talking about.

I took my shoes. I did the 360 layup. I can't kill him no more. You kill a big dog. I did the 360 layup. I gave Nick and him like 30 and 15. Against the Lakers. So all on Nick?

No, I killed BJ. No, I gave the Lakers like 30 and 15. He the Lakers. That's all on Nick? Nah, I killed BJ. Yeah. Nah, I gave the Lakers like 30 and 15. He was on, when I was in Detroit. He was on the team. He won though, he won though. Yeah, I won. Yeah, he won. Nah, but- He knew he could beat Detroit.

Yeah. Somebody said- That was a fun game though. He threw it off the backboard. It was crazy. Uh-huh. He was talking crazy. Gil, let me know when you need a real debate. About what?

About what? About what? Who's that? Somebody said, let me know when you want a real debate, but don't tell you what the debate is. No, no, no, because I think people think debating is like a real thing. They want to talk about your 24?

No, no, no, they just think like debating is a real thing. Like you just sit around the house like, I want to debate somebody. No, just debate. Like who's better, this this person this person. It's called opinion at that point Right like right what we do for the most part is opinion your opinion kicks in when you don't like the facts Right, so if the professional analysts who get paid to give us a top 10 list, right? Right, so they say michael jordan lebron kareem this and this right that's their professional like they put all the data in the computer and put it in right if you don't like

the list your opinion kicks in your opinion is kicking in and say kobe's two lebron's five that's your opinion at this point okay right the gave us a list. Like in football, the professionals who analyze the game, they gave you a list. If your brain doesn't like the list, it's your opinion that's kicking in. So us debating about whose opinion is better, it don't

matter because it's the list that finalizes the answer. But who says that that list is like... Yeah, but who says that that list is accurate? Like, just because he put that list together, he gets paid to... They got paid. What I'm saying is... Just because he gets paid, I don't mean that...

No, the analyst list, when it says ESPN, it's a bunch of... Just like anything, it's a bunch of writers and sports writers. They put all the data that exists, not just the data we want to use, right? When we just want to say six finals and all... No, they use from day one to day in, put all the data in the machine. Like, we're jaded. We're going to only use what makes our guy look good. How can Jordan be number one if his stats don't add up to everybody else's?

They put in what? Stats, competition they played against, dominance. Everything. Huh? Years played. So all of it goes in. They put in stats, competition they played against, dominance. Everything, huh? Years played. So all of it goes in. So the fact that he's still number one just lets us know how dominant he was amongst everybody else. So why Kareem can't be one?

I know. I don't get that. I think that's more opinionated too, though. I think about the entirety of basketball career, you got to put Kareem. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. We don't know exactly. Remember, I remember when Kingen made me look at something

that I wasn't factoring in. You remember when I said six man of the year should have been... Who did I point out? Who was I arguing for? Was it... Who won last year?

Nas Reed, right? Yeah yeah who won before that sure was it maxi you remember I was like maxi should win I was saying somebody should win and I said the way so when most improved I think most it was the most important most improved should have been maxi who was it no pulling up so uh so now I was reading one six of the year last year. Malcolm Brogdon won it two years ago. No, no. Most improved.

Max, he did win most improved. Yeah, Max won it. And who did I? Oh, I said Kobe White. Oh, yeah. I remember I was pushing. I was like, Kobe White should win it. Because I'm like, Kobe White from this year to this year is a big jump.

This is plus eight, plus a nine. And then I'm saying, well, in the last, you know, 20 years, this is how it's been. King is like, well, you need more research. So to prove him wrong, I went all the way back to when it started. Then it was three players that won, but it didn't look like they were supposed to win. Right? It was Armstrong. Brian, was it? Darryl they were supposed to win right it was Armstrong Brian I was at a

their Armstrong one, okay, it was Dragic right who won and How they won is they made the all-star game? Both like most improved also they know improved. They won an award. Maxie became an all star. From last year to this year, his improvement is he's an all star now.

Those were the things that my brain didn't see. When Kenya made me go all the way back to the beginning, the three people who won, they won an award the next year. They only had a plus four, but because that plus four in their record and they won an award,

that's how it is. So once I seen that, I was like, oh shit, this is why Max is winning. So we don't know how they're saying this list works, but it's the list that they go off of. So no matter what our debate is, no matter whatever statistics we use,

it's just our opinion at that point. And if it's our opinion, there's no winner on an opinion. So what's the debate then? That's the problem. There's no debate until there's someone who says someone won.

Right? Who is in CSPN the in-all, say-all? Because they have all the computers and the machines? That's what they get paid for. Just like a judge, right? You know what I'm saying?

Just like a judge, you have a prosecutor, you have the defense, they're arguing, everybody sounds right, and then you have somebody, you have the jury that says otherwise. So what if we want to make our own list of top 10? We can make our own list of top ten, but it's not it's not gonna be official all of us of is official

Why not? Information we are we are we're gonna see you in the media show us how they break it down We're gonna get down just because we played so how can you like how can somebody I don't know how many people's on I'm somebody I didn't play know the competition was better than... Because some of those are ex-players and stuff, too, right? Yeah, sometimes. There's, you know, so that's what I'm saying, but that's their job. Their job is to do all that.

Stephen A is not an ex-player. I don't know, does Stephen A... Yeah, but who's in that circle? Who's in that circle that's, like, in, like, ESPN? It got to be every generation, right? It got to be every generation that's in there that's going. It can't be just the older generation. It can't just be guys in the back of the day.

You got to have some new guys today, too. Yeah, they do. But that's what I'm saying. So when we're sitting there with our opinion, there's a real list. So you can't say your opinion is better than my opinion. They're just both opinions at that point. Right? So if you say Kareem's two and I say Kareem's three, neither one

of us is right. It's just our opinion. We just need something to argue about. That's all it is. It's just an argument. I don't know. When there's a debate, there's a winner. There's something that's higher up that says you won,

you lost. Like the president. They're sitting there debating. We're going back, oh, he won this one, he Like the president. Yeah. They're sitting there debating, right? We're going back, oh, he won this one, he won that one. We don't know who the real winner is until the election is over. Damn, he won. So everybody who was saying, Kamala, y'all lost. Y'all were wrong. All right?

That's how it ends. With ours, we don't want to respect the ESPN's list. That's why we fight it so much. That's fair. Right? LeBron say he's number one. The Jordan fans say he's number one. The Kobe fans say he's number one.

No, they had Kobe at number nine. That's the ESPN list. Your opinion don't like that, so you got them where? Yeah, Kobe at nine. Watch this. Kobe at nine is blasphemy. What I'm saying? That's their list. Now, our opinion said that's blasphemy.

We're going to put them somewhere else. No. And we're going to debate. You can't say theirs is just right, though. I don't get how you can just say theirs is just right. They can't just be right. You can't tell me with all the accolades and what Kobe did

even with any type of facts, he's going to be at nine. You got accolades. I mean, you got the ESPN. You're going to have the whatever. All these sites, they're all putting stuff into a machine. Like, it has to. What about the TNT guys? Kobe costs every tee.

Competition, points, championships, time he came in at 18, the earliness of when he won it. I said something that irritated the shit out of Kobe fans, even though I'm a Kobe fan. Right? I said something that irritated, but that is a metric. When I said three of his championships, he was a sidekick. And everybody's like, oh, he was never a sidekick. He was only 21, 22, and 23.

Those championships. Shaq was the dominant force. So those three championships that he got, he wasn't the lead dog yet. But who's taking all the big shots? You're talking about his shot. We're talking about stats, too, though.

We're talking. The stats are there, too. The stats are there. If you average two more points than me. I mean, yeah. It's like you're averaging 10. The drop is not that far off. The drop is a point.

What year you want, though? There's three. I mean, every year. Scottie Pippen was Scottie Pippen. If he scored 28 points and Jordan scored 30, we still know who's number one and number two. We still know who's doing the heavy lifting.

No, no, no. You don't want to accept it. Because when Jordan left, they won the same amount of weight. It don't matter. We know who Robin is in this instance, right? So his five rings is still Robin rings. That's the opinion.

That's the opinion. I'm about to say, yeah, that's your opinion. That's your opinion to know who Robin is. Right, that's not to us. Until you like him more, he look better doing it. That's your opinion. But not to us. But he didn't win until Pippen came here. So how can he? Wait, first of all, every Superman won when they got the perfect partner.

When they got the perfect partner, that's when they won. So it's not like the Superman is winning by himself. When he got the perfect person that can compliment him that understood this is the goal. So when people say, you didn't win without Pippen, of course he didn't because he needed a Pippen. Shaq didn't win until he got a Kobe. Pippen was there and Jordan

came second. It would have been Pippen. I mean, to me, if anybody was Robin, it was... So when Shaq was trying to win, he needed Kobe. When Kobe was the man and he needed to win, Gasol. Kobe got drafted. What I'm saying is when Gasol came, so nobody's saying Gasol helped Kobe win. When he got the perfect person to buy in, he won.

You're talking about 30 to 18 points. You're talking about 30 to 29. I'm about to say, them last two rings, that's all Kobe to me. I mean, that talking about 30 to 29. Yeah, I'm about to say them last two rings, that's all Kobe to me. I mean, that's all Kobe to us. That 24, that was mature Kobe. That was a different type of Kobe.

That wasn't a 24 Kobe. Like, people don't... 24 Kobe was... Listen, that was all Kobe. 24? 24-year-old Kobe, right? Shaq?

Like, remember, they just won. They just won. The number 24. People don't understand this. They won... At the age, the number 24. They just won. The number 24. People don't understand this. They won. At the age, the number 24. When they won the three rings.

Even 24. When they won the three rings, and it was going back for the fourth ring. See, this is what people's missing. When they were going back for the fourth ring, Shaq missed the beginning, started off the season. Kobe started the season off as the lead dog. They were like three and seven, three and8 by the time Shaq got back in. Kobe held the reign. They didn't win that year.

The very next year... Because Kobe's going through some other shit. The whole year was fucked up. Then the very next year... But he was the lead dog. Then the very next year, they got it. He was the lead dog. The team is broken up.

Everything is gone. No, no, no. This is when, no, the first year is when they tried to go the back-to-back or the four-peat. They didn't make it. Then that's the next year is when they got Brian Russell, Gary Payton, and them. They didn't make it. Kobe was the lead dog then. Then that's when he got rid of everybody and said, I want to show everybody I can lead my team to victory. He got his individual stats, and he said, I got to win. I need the perfect number two.

Gasol, that was his perfect number two. Like, you're not winning without a perfect number two. But don't be mad if your star is a perfect number two. When KD came to go to the state... Wait, hold on. He's like the Avengers.

Did Doug Nabischi have a perfect number two when he won a championship? Yeah. Who? Who was his perfect number two? Who was the second option? Who was it? There's a second option.

It wasn't perfect. It wasn't like on that level that you're saying. Did Dirk Nowitzki have a perfect number two option? But it's the second option, dog. When he beat the... There's a second option on the team. And the second option came off the bench. That was not the perfect number two option.

Thank you. Who was the second option come off the bench? It had to be Jason Terry. He averaged 18 in the finals. He had to be the second option came off the bench. That was not the perfect. Thank you. Who was the second option to come off the bench? It had to be Jason Terry. He averaged 18 in the finals. He had to be the second leader. But that's not the perfect second option. Why not? You're comparing that.

You're comparing. You're trying to compare. No, but you can't. You can't. No, you can't compare. You can't compare which Robin is better. That doesn't matter. No, but you said the perfect second option.

The perfect for them. Dirk Zabisky did not have the second perfect option on that team. He let that. The perfect for them. Who was the? No. Is it like you're not? Dirk went in there and whooped the ass by the head.

I mean, Southgate kid. When Shaq went to Miami and they won that championship, who was the lead dog that year? Dwayne Wade. Of course. Okay. So that means Shaquille O'Neal was dog that year? Dwayne Wade. Of course. Okay. So that means Shaquille O'Neal was a second option to Dwayne Wade. There's nothing wrong with that.

Because Gary Payton never said that. But there's nothing wrong with that. So why is he the second option to D-Wade and not the second option to Kobe? Right. And it's one year off. It's two years. Two years. And do you see that team that Miami had?

Two years. Do you see that team Miami had? Hold on. Hold on. He's the second option that D-Wade was taking all the big shots. Shaquille was the second option. And D-Wade did two years in college. To Kobe, the two years that they didn't win, he got traded.

He tried to be the first option in Miami the first year. Didn't work. Then the second year in Miami. That's four years later from him being the man, man. When did they win? When did Miami win? They won in 2005, didn't work. Then the second year in Miami. That's four years later from him being the man. When did they win? When did Miami win? They won in 2005, right? 2006. And that's one year after he got left.

He went to Miami the first year. He was trying to beat a big diesel. It didn't work. They lost to Detroit. And then the following year, Shaq didn't start the season off. Dwyane Wade started the season off. They were playing well. When Shaq came back, he came back trying to be the number one, and GP had to sit him down and said,

we're moving the young boy. You're going to have to be Robin. They won the championship. So he was Robin. Same thing to Kobe. He wasn't doing the shit he was doing. That was four years later from the championship. They just won in 2000. They lost in 2004. Right, and then just won in 2000. They lost in 2004.

Right, and then they... They got rid of him in 2005. No, dog. Two years later. They did not win. Kobe won three in a row, then lost when the shit happened. Shaq and Kobe played together again after the Detroit... Kobe only lost once.

Shaq and Kobe played together again after the Detroit championship. They lost? No. I don't think so. Did they? Yeah, right. So, boom. They lost. So, they lost.

Remember, so they won in 0-1-0-2. That was the third championship. 0-1-0-2. 0-2-0-3, they didn't win. That's when Kobe was third in MVP voting. 0-3-0-4, they didn't win. That's when Kobe was third in MVP voting. 0-3 or 4, they lost in the finals to Detroit. Shaq left the next year. Okay.

0-4, 0-5, Shaq is in Miami. They win it? No. They're following you. That's what I'm saying. This is four years removed from him being the man, even though he still thought he was the man I mean I mean I mean I mean but you got me he also played with a very

DeWayne way that went to Marquette DeWayne way puts my how many years in three years so DeWayne way had way more experience in Kobe coming in for sure but he was 18 like but DeWay shot came to the Wayne way the second year That's why he said I'm still a man here. They didn't they didn't win that first year the Wayne way I remember the year I remember that but that's what I'm saying. I knocked out. He won a ring being the second option so They are is what they are what but they factor that in my to your body like every I'm sorry Every really wanted every ring is not weighed the same. I I'm sorry. Every ring

is not weighed the same. I don't even think Shaq was the second option that year they won it. But what I'm saying is every ring... We don't factor in. How old was Shaq? D-Wade averaged 35,

8, and 4. Shaq aver average 14 and 10 unless I'm smoking. Oh, dude. But what I'm saying... But you see that drop-off compared to... How you trying to compare

to Kobe? Like, every time Kobe was in the finals, though, it never looked like Kobe was the second. But what I'm saying is, like, you're talking... Their third championship

is Kobe. Their third championship. All right1-0-2. I'm not saying. I can't say. Remember when he came in the league. 0-1-0-2. He's not the Kobe. If Shaq was playing with Jordan, is he Robin?

We don't know. That's made up. We don't know. I'm just saying. If he was. If Shaq playing with who? We don't know. That's made up. We don't know. I'm just saying, if he was. If Shaq playing with Hooper or Mike. We don't know. What year, Jordan?

The year Kobe was winning. The same time Kobe was winning. The year Kobe was winning. I'm talking about a young. I was going to say Jordan was in college. I'm talking about Jordan was young. We don't know who it would have been. That's what I'm saying.

That's opinion now. That's not a fact. You're just making fun of me. You're saying Kobe's. That's a real thing. That happened. You bringing Jordan in, that's not a fact. You're just making it up. You're saying Kobe's... That's a real thing. That happened. You bringing Jordan in, that's not a real thing. No, that's not a real thing that you're saying he's robbing.

You can't be robbing if you're averaging damn near the same. Averaging damn near the same is not averaging the same. There's a reason one is MVP- I just need somebody to average more this year and then win finals MVP. There's finals MVP, there's MVPs, there's the go-to guy, then there's the guy. So basically, Tatum is robbing then.

If that's what we're doing. That's what I've been saying. That's what you're saying. This is what I've been saying. Just because he won finals MVP, this is what I've been saying. If you're going to do that to Kobe, if you're going to do that to Kobe, you got to do that to Tatum. I said Kobe's never led in nothing over Shaq.

Tatum, I mean, Brown didn't either, so Tatum is Robin. So in every playoff series when Kobe— You're saying series now because you want to pick one series out of the nine series that they've played. But you just said that Kobe has never averaged more than Shaq. So in a playoff— A series is four or five games. A season is 82 games. That's right. 82 games.

Right. So for someone as a second option to average 30, what are they doing to the number one option? You've got to factor in all things. You just can't factor in what you want. That's what I'm saying you can't just factor in just the things that you want to use under five minutes who the ball going to

the last five minutes is going to Kobe I mean well shit we gotta win I gotta win I mean shit I just don't think neither one of them is Batman or Robin. They just they just they just you can't even separate them.

Captain America, Iron Man. I can't do that. If you know, he's not Iron Man at that moment in time. He's becoming Iron Man. He's becoming Iron Man. He Iron Man. But he's not Iron Man yet. Listen, there's no there's no other two in the history of sports

in basketball that... But he won the champion... They won the first championship in 98, 99. He gonna bring up the first time when Kobe averaged 21, 82, 99, 2000. We talking about the last year. 99, 2000, right? He averaged 22.

Right? He's 12th in MVP vote and all that, right? Nine. Then they won the next year. He averaged 28. He's ninthth in MVP vote and all that, right? Nine. Then they won the next year. He averaged 28. He's ninth in voting. And then 0-1, 0-2, he averaged 25 for the season.

He's fifth in voting. Then there's somebody in front of him. That's what he didn't want. He never wanted to get Kobe. He got one MVP. You can what he wanted. He never wanted to get Kobe. He got one MVP. You can't say that. They gave

somebody the average 13 points MVP over Kobe. Come on, man. Just be real now.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Say that

again. Come on, man. Say that again. Steve Nash. So if Steve Nash didn't

play that year, who would have won if they didn't vote Steve Nash? Who would have got that MVP?

I would have thought it was Kobe. Well, he was third on the list. LeBron James. He was second. Like I said, they never wanted Kobe to be. That's our opinion, though. Because of what happened. But these championships are before that. He was still young. You're trying to use the Kobe that we know. Young Kobe was getting buckets. Afro Kobe. He got both jerseys retired. 8 and 24. Someone in front of him, dog. There's a nigga who won an MVP

on the team. I don't know why you don't want to accept that. There's a dude, he was, you remember them numbers? He was first in MVP, third in third. He is the dude right now. You wasn't in the league. Opinion base.

It's not opinion base. Are we talking about Shaq? Yeah. He was one three and three. He didn't want MVP every year. I agree with that. I'm sorry. But I just feel like when it comes down to it, I just feel like. I got with that. I'm sorry. But I just feel like

when it comes down to it, I just feel like... I got to go off of the facts. I can't. No, I get the facts, but man, the last five minutes. You can't. Fuck facts.

I just can't do facts. You don't want to do facts. It's a piece. Hey, because Jason Taylor is not number one. I can't defend that now. Brown is number one option. Oh, why?

Thank you. I told you. Come on over here. I don't know about the facts. But why? He you. Told you. Come on over here. But why? Because he's won the award. You said he won the award. No, I did not say he won the award. It's 82-game season, dog.

Who is the lead dog? Who's carrying you the season? Who's carrying you during the rest of the year? Like, during the playoffs, he's led in everything. They gave the award to him. They gave the award to him. But there's still a lead dog and there's a dog right when the USA team comes together There's a lead dog right

When there's an Olympic team right that's all number one options on their team I'm holding up the hard way I got the I'm the legal cool. Yeah. See that's your problem. You're only factoring in one thing. I'm talking about everything When the USA game starts, right, all those guys are star players. There's an actual number one option at some point. Then there's a two, three, then there becomes a pecking order. So if we say, damn, Kevin Durant was a second option on Olympics, you can't get in your feelings. If he was a second option or third option, then that's all he was.

Don't mean he's that in Phoenix. Don't mean he was that for his whole career. Well, how did he get to Olympics? It's from a team. I don't know, but let's bring this thing back. Let's bring it back to contemporary topics. You're talking about teams, not Olympics. It's a team. Olympics is a team. You're always going around. Olympic team. Let's bring it back to contemporary topics. You're talking about teams, not Olympics. It's a team.

Olympics is a team. An Olympic team. Let's bring it back to contemporary topics. Golden State, when they won a championship with KD and Curry, who was the lead dog? Okay. Let's go to the next one. Let's keep it moving.

Exactly. So we got to revisit something that happened over the weekend. John Moran and the Grizzlies went into Brooklyn and took the dub over the Nets back on Friday, but that's not what we'll focus on here. So in the second quarter, Ja was cooking, dropping 16 of his 28 points on the night, including a buzzer beater at the end of the quarter,

which he celebrated by saying, yeah. Ja going to save the league. Yeah. Celebration continued as Ja walked past the Nets coach, Ja going to save the league. Yeah. Celebration continues. Ja walked past the Nets coach, Jordy Fernandez, and looked him right in the eyes. Fernandez was not a fan of the Selly.

This game was in Memphis, Queezys. Fernandez was not a fan of the Selly. Staying on the court to stare down Ja after. Parading Ja City, yeah. He's going to save the league. But that wasn't the end, yeah. But that wasn't the end of it. So that wasn't the end of it, though. That energy carried over until the end of the game. We got that video coming for you momentarily. Carried over the end of the game. So a minute and 11 left. During a dead ball, it looked like Ja had more to say. Grizzlies head coach Taylor Jenkins guided him back to the bench

Then Dennis Schroeder who was with the Nets at the time wanted to get involved with Jenkins and Jordy Fernandez held him back No, yeah, this is before this past Friday At one point you can see Jenkins mouth then're going to let him talk to me like that? I like that coach. He's real. So then with the clock, he's zero. Fernando went to half court to shake hands with Jenkins. But John Moran and Schroeder reentered the fray.

Jenkins just head to the locker room. Yeah, that's right. Coach heads up. I'm tired of this bullshit. Likely not to get a taper from his barber. I hate how they sit on that. The fisticuffs and suit. Okay, John.

Oh, look at you. Give it up to my China man. Nick. He's Japanese. A great country. Great country. The purveyors of Shohei Itani, amongst other legends. So, in the postgame, Fernandez addressed the situation.

Other than that, I will never speak to other players. And I don't want other players to speak to me. If they want to be nice, obviously, that's part of the game. If not, I don't want any interaction. I think it's disrespectful.. That's part of the game. If not, I don't want any interaction. I think it's disrespectful. It's not part of the game. And that's what we are projecting to everybody else, especially the little ones, is play with respect, respect for the game,

whether you are a superstar or whoever you are. So that's where I go, what I want my players to do, what I do myself. I cannot control others. And then, obviously, the officials have to judge all that. So, Nick, during the video, you said all this soft-ass light-skinned and shit. Yeah. I would never speak to another player. So, Ja was asked about the situation after the game, and it wasn't that serious to him.

So, let's listen to what he had to say. Nothing for real on my end. I was tro trolling just to get them riled up and they did but uh yeah i ain't too much on my side i'm i even told the coach coach that that i was trolling so he was good he had to do i don't know what was said on the end to have a coach like that. But, yeah, man, at the end, I just went to make sure the coach was good. I think that's something that stems from that halftime shot you made going in halftime. That's energy, man. You might not just want to know. However many points I scored that quarter, I finished it with a buzzer beater.

I didn't say nothing crazy. If you look at the video, it just showed me. I didn't say nothing crazy. If you look at the video, it just showed me. I was just saying, yeah. If yeah disrespectful make you feel some type of way, then hey, so be it. Little Gil as Nick. Little Gil.

Little Gil. Was there anything disrespectful about Ja's celebration? I love it. His celebration? I don't know. Celebrating? The only thing I was disrespectful was the ass whooping he was giving out.

Like, why do everybody get in their feelings when they get in their ass whooping? Like, I've never seen someone up. See that water in his eye? Never talk to a player. He gonna cry on the bus? This ain't Spain, brother. This ain't Spain, man. We not here, over here, playing favoritism.

Everybody got to be quiet. Somebody catch a heater and they busting your ass, they ain't going to talk shit. If you don't want them to talk shit, guard them. Respect the game. Play defense. Like, the respect of the game, that's AAU basketball. Five, six years old.

I'm going to be real. Everybody won. Don't put the score up there so no one knows that they're losing. Oh, trust me, they know they're losing. They know. For five or six years old, a lot of kids are talking shit. There's some assholes in the fray there.

I'm not a fan of that turn the scoreboard off. They need to see this. They need to see every bit of these points. And hopefully, so I take it that you guys are all on Josh's side in this situation. Yeah, he needs to shut up. He could.

Park it. You need to watch out. Shaw not here, but Jordy Fernandez can move that. Nobody want to talk to your ass. If you standing up

and you in my eyesight, you got this work. You lost the locker room after this. You mad because y room after this. You mad because y'all weak. They should have fired his ass. Get those tough asses

out of here, man. Coach, man, you're making us look bad, dog. Everybody going to talk shit to us now. Me and Brooklyn. Every player is going to talk shit on your ass this week. Game was in Memphis, but yes, obviously George Not a call plays after that don't say nothing to my coach. She's gonna get mad

Shooter I don't clear what he said, but could have been asking for a trade Why do y'all need one? Yeah. Don't stand up for me. Get out of here. Get out of here. Like that. So let's take it back to when you guys were in the league. Look at us, man. You see how we're teasing them? That's every athlete, man. That's everybody probably looking at that interview like, oh, he came to this shit. He came to take trash talk.

He went Karen. Huh? He went Karen. He went Karen for sure. He went full Karen right there. You Yeah, no one took your tail, bro There's no way you could have been on the court Respect for the game like if hey if you played that Boston team with KG and Paul Pierce Oh you up there standing up there and they got they caught fire

Oh, oh my god And KG hit a coach you and the coaching staff Y'all need to do a better job because these niggas out here weak. All y'all would have got that work. For real. For sure. Man, his looks off.

The white coach just walked off like, man, I ain't hearing this bullshit. What is he saying? What is he saying? And y'all in Brooklyn, too. That makes... You see the look back? Yeah, like, he was looking.

Jawan Howard was like, come on, bro. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Walk this... Come on, you ain't ready to do nothing. What come on, bro. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on They walked this boy you ain't gonna do nothing But I say how a true light skinned it came through. It said no this is even too much He's like man, come on man. Let's just go

We get it back. All right. We are a couple weeks away from the start of we're trying to teach the key It's a grown-ass boys. You talking to kids? These are grown-ass men, dawg. These are grown-ass men. You know you're losing when you throw away the kids. We trying to teach the community. Little kids are assholes. I don't know.

It's like little kids is worse than adults. I don't know what you're talking about. Hey, what is the community? I guess he ain't been in no AAU games, boy. You got pistols flying all through there. You got arrows shooting, Lles, everybody bumping. What? This is last year.

I got shot at least eight times last weekend. Gil Senior at the game. Just watching the game on the phone. What'd I do? Did the Barnes twins get... Oh, man, he would hate us for coming to practice the next day. I got shot by the phone. Pow! What'd I do? Did the Barnes twins get... Oh, man, he would hate us for coming to practice the next day. I got shot by the Barnes. Okay, the Barnes twins.

He would hate us for coming. Pow, pow. Elijah's cousins. Yeah, I got shot by the twins this weekend, man. Hit a three in Elijah's face. I said, Brick, I got shot too. Pow, pow. They won or not?

We whooped their ass. Oh, wow. I know, right? Yeah. Okay. That was a big win for us. Shout out to Chatsworth. Dax to a coach over there?

Assistant. We're going to whoop our ass this year, huh? We're 6-0 right now. They're going to beat Cleveland this year. Rich Rowland. We beat Crescent. Crescent beat us last year, I think, by 48, 38, 32. We got y'all last year into the playoffs.

Y'all cheated us And you almost got kicked out. I had your baby. I said man man stall them out You know those photos were ye them referees that was doing that they can't ref no more Elijah games or Chatsworth games until he's gone because every game that they played in you're putting a call. Yeah. No, no, no, no Okay Because every game that they played in you're putting a call. No, no, no, no, no Give him a drink. I'm gonna lie. I noticed it because there was we was in the playoffs was in the playoffs Elijah had two fouls. We were playing against my old team. We were playing against Grant.

And then all of a sudden, the referee on spin moves, three offensive fouls in a row, then fouled him out of the game. Oh, wow. Grant won. Right? So I'm like, damn. So the next season started. Every game those two refs ref, they fouled him out.

So what happened was in the playoffs, the coaching staff and the school principal reported the refs because we found out they were on it. So the commissioner of referees came to the game. Like Foster and Chris Paul? Yeah, and they watched the game. And then at the end, Elijah only had two fouls. They got three fouls on him, got him out of the game. And the commissioner's like, yeah, they're done. That's a good game against us, though.

Three winning overtime. Elijah hit the three to go to overtime. Yeah, that game, yeah. We should have won that on regular. Still got Elijah in this 359 deal. As always, he gets one degree back. Should have reffed that. One degree back.

Did anyone get under your skin with their trash talk back when you played? He still got under my skin. Even when we played Madden, through the Madden, he'd be getting under my skin. He'd be barking on the phone, on the... be barking like a dog. A big dog or a... Big German Shepherd. Barking at his kids, they'd be doing crazy shit. I think for me it would have to be...

See, but I got him back, I got him first and then he got me in Milwaukee was Nate Robinson Made good the talk trash Nate Robinson. Yeah, I got a good in Chicago Jimmy And then and then when he went to Milwaukee, I got kicked out the game and he was talking crazy God about yourself. I was saying no you're not easily faced but uh That talk trash that got under my skin? What about the second game against the Lakers after your 60? A 39.

But it was, like, a bad 30. It was a 39. A bad 34. It was 37 against 37. Like, fouling each other, talking... But that's what I said. When people talk about the best games, I call that one because you have Kobe who's saying, I'm stopping him, and I'm going to do this and destroy,

and then I still had 39. No matter how it looked, I let him know that I'm not backing down. I mean, he shoots, though. So, Gil, I have your stats here. You had 37 in that game, but I want to read. Oh, he had 39. I want to read impressive. From 2003-04 season to 2006-07 season,

you averaged 36 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists in 7 games against the Lakers. So I'm just going to read your scoring totals. 35, 37, 21, 29, 34, 60, and then that 37-point game. How many shots did you shoot after that? 9 for 29. 9 for 29.

Huh? Motherfucker, Mamba... 29, stop! Huh, Mamba? The Mamba coming in the building. I got him. The whole team knew. But let me read the best part. 29 29 Best part you've been very Inflammatory about all the threes me taking nowadays you were three for 15 from three It was telling it was it was just gonna what I'm saying Kobe talking trash it was just it was just like I everybody knew this was about to be a one-on-one I'm taking 30 some shots like cuz if I don't he's gonna look at me like oh you didn't even step up for the challenge It don't matter if I miss 20 shots

The I gotta take him like I'm out there boom boom yeah yeah miss miss miss I don't care I'm still letting them go I'm still letting them go that's why I said I'd rather you be

one for 20 than one for 5 one for 5 says you gave up yeah one for 20 says shit you you just didn't have

a good night but you still let it go that's how I look at the game is that the most shots you ever shot? nah I probably got I probably got a 30-something in there. I probably had to. How many shots you ever shot, B? 35.

That's when you had 50? Yeah. So your mindset wasn't the same when Kobe came back into town? Yeah. Gil, you took 37 shots in that 54-point game you had against the Suns. Yeah, but your mindset in L.A. was to get 60 and win. No, I wasn't. I didn't have that.

It was just part of the game. So a question for you. So that was just part of the game. But you were part of the game. Right, but you definitely was trying to win that game. So what I'm saying is when Kobe came back in the tournament, you wasn't trying to win. You were just trying to play one-on-one.

No, they were better than us. We ended up jumping out, and Kobe, his heroics, got into overtime, and then I just caught fire. In Washington, it was more embarrassing. Who's going to come out? Like, I know he's coming in trying to destroy. This might be one of those 60 and three-quarters, and he's going to try to shut me down. So you've got to show no fear. He'll lay the jersey down.

Yeah, so that's... No, no, no, I get it, right. I get it. You know, for somebody that's... Like, think about it like a fighter, right? They respect the guy who's going to fight to death, right? Even though you win, he's going to be like, yo, I respect the work egg, I respect...

That's all it is from him. He respects the guys who's going to come. Like, you know I'm coming. What you going to do? You going to run? Yeah. Or you going gonna stand up and take this ass whooping? You know, that's that's how that is. Mm-hmm. So good question for you Would you rather had 60 points against the Lakers and won that game or has 70 and lost the game? 70 wasn't what?

70. So you had 68 and 8 in that game. If you had 78 and 8 in that game and lost. Okay. Give me them extra 10. Give me them extra 10. Give me them. Y'all lost. They wasn't moving the loss.

They was moving the 70. Wouldn't that make Kobe a league dog, though? The fact that his mentality was like that all the time? Because that's his mentality. So, since birth. But that's what I'm saying. That's why he got rid of Shaq. But that's why he got rid of Shaq.

He's in my way right now. No, no, no. I don't even think that. I just think that he always felt like he was the league dog, no matter if Shaq was here. I get what it looked like, but when it came down to everything if they were both the same age then you're taking Kobe first right but this is this is a young guy when Shaq is dominating so he's trying to get to his once he felt that I'm the number one option then it's a different story that's when they

started clashing because he's walking around I'm the number one option, then it's a different story. That's when they started clashing because he's walking around, I'm the number one option now. I did this. I do this. I hit these shots. You don't work this hard. Wait. Yeah, that's when he started challenging.

That's when it is. The first two rings, he didn't challenge Shaq like that. That third one at the end where he was like, damn, I probably could have won that fight. You don't think he challenged Shaq at all? When I probably won at MVP, that could have you know Is that at all when I finally when I probably wanted MVP? That could have been mine. Oh, that's my team and then from there. It was this is my team now You're lazy. You don't belong and that's where the the the the clashing became

But that's like anything when it takes time for that play to really develop like his all right like okay Let's what's up. They said he came into the league like that though. No, he came into the league with all the accolades for his hard work like this. But I think it was before that. I think when Kobe first came in with Eddie Jones and all them, he was like, get the fuck out of here. So he came

in, that's what I'm saying, he came in like a league dog. He never came in like no... He has the swagger and the confidence of it, but he hasn't put it together yet. That's what I said by his third championship that year. He was putting it together. So, going into the following year, this is my team. What's up?

So, we asked the chat, would you rather score 60 and win or 70 and lose? 78% said 60 and win. Y'all are selfish. They some losers, dog. That's a regular-ass game. That's a loser mentality, Chad. losers, though. Selfless ass. That's a regular ass game. That's a loser mentality. That's a regular ass game.

That's a... That ain't... He didn't say championship. He didn't say playoff game. You just talking about a regular ass game. Me over win. 70 against Kobe on a loss knot. I mean, what's the...

Devin Booker has 70. You remember that. No, we don't. You just said Devin Booker has 70. I'm saying... No, but Devin Booker has? 70. You remember that. No, we don't. You just said Devin Booker. No, but Devin Booker has 70. Because somebody already did it. Somebody's already done it. So it's like.

I can say this right now. When you go in history, top scorers, they don't got win or loss next to it. That shit got 70. 72. 72. 72 versus Boston. You got to start clicking the extra shit to find out what the game stats was. You're 55 as a friend.

Nobody, I don't know if you won that game. I don't know if you won it. Me, no. I don't win. I get one. 55. God damn. And one, though.

And one. Nobody know that. That's the plus. I don't know that. We just know a rookie hit 55, dog. 55. Hit the speed limit. That's why it's still standing, and it'll look good to this day.

Think about that. I know one thing. If a rookie hit 56 with a loss, they in front of you. Yeah. Fuck you. All right. Let's keep this thing moving.

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Murray nailed a middie with eight seconds left to give the Nuggets the lead. They would hold on for the win. Murray led the Nuggets with 28 points, while Joker had an underwhelming triple-double for his standards with 20 points, 14 boards, and 13 dimes in the win. So Nuggets are currently fifth in the West at 14-10.

Let's put three minutes on the clock. Here's your Oral Watch question of the day. Is the Nuggets championship window still open? Nuggets? The Denver Nuggets of Denver. As long as they got Joker, they're over the top. I mean, they... I just don't believe in other people, though.

No. It's over? I watched last night's game from the beginning. They were up, like, damn near 20-something. Like... It's too slow. They had their heads down. Sacramento had their heads down. Sacramento had their heads down. Like, it was over.

Like, all it took was two shots, and they would have quit. And what Denver was doing just didn't look... They don't look good. They don't look good anymore. They don't. Like, the Yoke is just bringing... Like, Yoke is just...

They taking the ball out. Yoke is just bringing the ball up the court now. It just doesn't seem to... Do they need to move somebody? Nah, they just trying to make Joker win. Or they just going through something right now. Joker do everything. You know what I mean?

I don't know what it is. Joker the point guard now. And making sure you get all them assists. You know what it is? I think everybody got paid. Everybody got paid and everybody became the fat cat. Like, yeah, I'm good. We do.

I'm good. Yeah. And I think that's how it looks, right? Okay. Like, we already got one. Like, Jokic literally is out there and he's the only, like, we know you out there, but now it's like he's trying to do everything. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, motherfucker get the rebound. He ain't even looking for the point guard no more. He's like he's trying to do everything. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Motherfucker get a rebound. He ain't even looking for the point guard no more. He's just fucking, ah, come on. They're getting too much range. LeBron, dang it. It just seems like he's just. 340 pounds. I mean, yeah.

Like Murray is not looking. I mean, what Murray did at the end, right? You don't do that. You know, like perfect basketball, right? Like, okay, you had a horrible game. Fourth quarter, you took over. You know, but everybody else, it just don't seem like they're just, they're not clicking.

It's just little things that just like, ah, y'all just. Does he have the ball too much? Huh? He has the ball too much in his hand, Jokic? He lost a couple key pieces. You think it's too, like, static because of his, you know, the stats and triple doubles and all that. Like, you know, that could be a factor where the ball sticks.

Like, you know, it could be just sticking too much. It seems like when he's, like, the years he's getting closer to the triple double, they're winning less. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Is it about the numbers, the stats, the noise, about becoming one of the greatest bigs ever? And all these other things. Y'all saying everything was stat-patting right now. It's too efficient.

It's too efficient to say stat-patting. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying everything was stat-patting. No, you can't say it's too efficient. If he's bringing up the ball, that's a lot. If he's bringing up the ball, that's a lot. Because you're saying he's too efficient offensively? Because that's it.

Rebounding, rebounding. 56% from the field. Yeah, that means nothing. That has nothing to do with patting your stats. 51% from three. That has nothing to do with patting your stats. But... Did that kick in when Westbrook was doing rebounds?

You're talking about his shooting percentage because he's rebounding and going to get the rebound. That has nothing to do. Like, he's more offensively better than Westbrook is. Yeah, but 56% from the field. He just throws the shot. It seems like that's the guy I would want taking those shots. So to answer your question, yeah, it's over.

It's over? He's doing everything. And it looked good. Like, Sacramento's over. It's over? He's doing everything. And it looked good. Like, Sacramento beat them. Even the last possession. Like, it was a... That was game, right? They did the pick and roll,

swish it, got it to the bonus, right, help, boom. DeRozan just fumbled it. Other than that, he went up, that's game. Right? They just... The defense is horrible.

I think that's what's fucking them up now. They ain't got they key defenders like Caldwell, Pope, Bruce Brown. They had some, I'm talking about No, no, no, no. They had them guys that played well for them. You know what's funny? And this is when it comes

to the second options, the third options, the fourth options of a team is people don't value certain type of players. They don't realize that these are my stars. This person makes it all fit. The only team that really understood that was Golden State with Draymond. Because for the most part, everybody wanted to get rid of Draymond damn near seven years ago, eight years ago.

You would only have one ring if you got rid of Draymond when you wanted to, but didn't realize how important he actually was to the success of Curry and Klay fitting together with the rest of the team. So some of these teams don't know who their bridge players are. That too.

And a lot of these teams might be just one and done champions. Like it's not like, it's no more of the consistent, like, you know, three in a row. And like Denver. Do you feel like the Cells have the potential to do that? You know why? Because they win it and think they're, this is it. With six different champions.

We're going to go back to back with this team. Yeah, because even like Milwaukee. No, no, but think about it. Milwaukee, Denver. When teams is hurt. Like, Milwaukee won when everybody was hurt. Like, they would have lost. They would have lost.

They don't want to accept that. They would have lost by a foot. The Lakers would have lost that bubble ring too. KD foot was through. But you see what I'm saying? But no, think about that. But everybody was healthy when they lost. No, no, think about that. But everybody was healthy. No, no, think about it. Like, going into that playoffs, the Bucs was not even a contender to New Jersey, right?

So they win, they beat them, right? Katie's foot, but it started when James wasn't playing. He wasn't playing. Right? Kyrie got hurt. Then they had to bring James back who was limping. Nets almost won that game still. Then Trae Young goes down, right?

You end up winning, but you should have told yourself, God was on our side, but we do need to improve because if everybody's healthy next year, we're not going to win this, so we should improve. And that's what they didn't do. Huh? KD foot size 20 was on that line when he shot the 30. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

So some teams think they're good enough not to add new pieces. Like when Lakers won, you're supposed to keep your team and add a few more pieces That's what I was saying the Warriors the Baby with Cleveland even when LeBron and was making that run no They were just one ran it back with that same starting five and it proved to be not

Same sort of five, but what did you lose on a bench? Yeah the bench They got rid of Bruce got he got rid of Bruce Brown So, same starting five, but what did you lose on the bench? Yeah, the bench. That's what I'm saying. Like, a lot of these teams. They got rid of Bruce. Yeah, they got rid of Bruce Brown. You're losing these little intricate pieces to your team. Like, um. Bruce Brown was balling. The only team that I've seen that really didn't need the improvement,

they just needed to better themselves, was Boston. Boston didn't need to make a great move in the summer. But we will see how that pans out. If they win this year, there needs to be an upgrade to one of their pieces because everybody else is going to upgrade. So if they say, all right, we're going to get rid of White and then bring in, boom, somebody else will get rid of this person. And, like, there's something that needs to be done

because you've got to think about everybody else is now building to beat you. But it's also going to be easier because they're in a bigger market, too, though. I feel like players will want to go there. Like, when Milwaukee won it, it's hard to get somebody to still come there the next year. It's still Milwaukee. Like, Denver. It's still hard to get players to go to these certain places. So, if a Boston do win or a Golden State, you're going for sure.

No, because you don't really need the big name. You can go get a Buddy Hill. Buddy, but it's gonna get a buddy. He'll buddy. He'll go anywhere that Pam Yeah, but you didn't Like that Mm-hmm. Yeah, but but they but they let those guys go because they're trying to get some and it's like that ain't really it for This you know this culture in this like what this is here You know who was a piece that Milwaukee lost that they didn't understand that was a bridge player for them? P.J. Tucker.

Yep. Yep. I say that all the time. When P.J. Because P.J. is doing everything nobody. When you have P.J., right? Mm-hmm. P.J. is guarding Kevin Durant.

Yep. He's making Kevin Durant's life a living hell. No matter how good Kevin Durant is going to be, he's there. Kevin knows he's there. Now you have Drew Holiday, who is the cleanup guy. Now he gets to even dial in on everything else. He can follow KD. He can stop this.

He's not by himself. When you lost him, now he has to guard him. Nobody does his role. So it was kind of... So we asked the chat, y'all need to go get Jordan Poole. Who? Jordan Poole. Milwaukee.

They need somebody that's not scared to shoot. No, we need somebody. No, no, no. No, no. No, they do need a wild card. No, no. No, he's wild, wild card. Too wild.

He won the championship. Not to play... No, not to be wild. He wild on the Wizards because Wizards don't got no guidance. Not to be alongside Giannis. No. Wizards ain't got no guidance.

No. He was around Steph Curry. He was with Steph Curry. That's different, but Steph and Draymond and a lot of other pieces. Yeah, so he had... There's a lot over there.

They ain't got that in Milwaukee. So we asked the chat, is the Nuggets championship window closed? Got more than 2,000 votes. 57% said yes. Okay chat chat redeeming themselves So like that They need something. Oh, oh like Jordan Clarkson Clarkson I think I think Jordan Clarkson so I'm just saying somebody. He's more stable. He's taking a stable.

Slow down, slow down. Let's get to the highlights of the only overtime game played in the league last night between the Heat and the Pistons. Yo, come on, man. Show some love and respect to Adam Silver's Eastern Conference. Star player showed out in this one, a 125-124 win for the Pistons at home. Jimmy Butler had his best game of the season, posting a season-high 35 points to go along with a career-high 19 rebounds and 10 assists with no turnovers.

UCLA. The man even got an offensive rebound and dropped a bucket with one shoe in overtime. We're going to see that in just a little bit. You see that, man? Hold on. I can't watch it. We can't.

Okay. I like that. I like this Pistons squad, man. I like the K't even watching him. We get, yeah. Who? Cade. I like this. I like this business squad, man. I like the KB Pickerstadt. Got going on over there. Hero came through with the big three. That's who y'all need.

Send the game. That's what we need. The OT. Green for Bam out of Iowa. Butler with the basket. Lays it up. Lays it in. Jimmy Buckets.

He got a showcase. Out here doing his thing, like I said. Oh my God. That look like. Oh, my God. I was like... Man, lost his shoe, still got a bucket. But Kay Cunningham took advantage of the number scored on the other end as Butler was slow to recover putting his shoe on.

Oh, look at that bucket. So, Butler shot over 57 from the field. He was 12 for 21 on the night. Also had 10 for 12 from the free throw line. That's 44 minutes of work. Kay Cunningham has something to say on the Pistons side. He held it down with 20 points, a career-high 18 assists and 11 rebounds. Cunningham is the first player in Pistons history to put that stat line up in a single game.

It's his sixth triple-double this season and eighth in his career. So Pistons were the laughingstock of the NBA last season, losing 28 straight games at one point. One year later, they're a young team with upside that currently sits in the final playing spot in the East. They have 11 wins right now after winning 14 games all of last season. So, Gil, I know Detroit, you've had some issues with the city before. You made your peace, you know, hopefully, so we can pull up.

Shout-out Ha-Ha Davis, everybody else out there. Shout out Isaiah Stewart, man of the people. Ha Ha Davis. Ha Ha Davis. So you like what the Pistons are building around Cade Cunningham in Detroit? Yeah, I think they're still trying to figure it out. Like, you know, I think they understand how special Cade is, and they're going to have to really show him that they're trying to make this team better.

They've got a bunch of young pieces that's trying to figure themselves out too, but you're going to have to find his complementary players for them to succeed. Right now, they know how to win. Last year, they didn't. This year, they know how to win. Last year, they didn't. This year, they know how to finish games off.

And, you know, some of those wins that should be theirs, they're finishing those games. So I think this is going to be a very important summer for them. Yeah. Coming up to find out

who's going to be the best number two and who's going to be their bridge player. Just build from there. Like you pointed out, last year, I had that losing streak, but they were in a lot of those games, just couldn't finish,

just couldn't close. Had some impressive wins this season to start it out. Kay Cunningham obviously getting that extension, coming into his own. And it looks to me like the Pistons are maybe a few pieces away from, you know, what's the East, though? You already know. Yeah, but they can go from, you know, winning 30-something games this year and then damn near winning 45, 50 next year just with the same unit because they got better.

Brady, you like what I got? Do they got a bet over there or everybody's just yelling right now? No, they got the guy from... Who's the oldest? Harrison. Tobias Harrison? Yeah. Harrison.

I mean, yeah, that's... They can use him. Yeah, they're about, like, one or two pieces away, though. He's a solid... He's a solid... I mean, he's just a solid guy. Like, a team like that needs, uh... Probably an Al Horford type.

Mm. Championship experience? No, not a champ. Just a... Just a... Just, like, you know, someone that... Or he's, like... Is he, like, Tobias, too?

Like, a quiet dude. I'm trying to figure out what do they... I mean, they got K, J. Nightingale, Malik Beasley came up. Oh, those are young. You know what I'm talking about. There's no fit. We need that. Beasley, Tobias Harris.

They got Tim Hardaway Jr. over there as well. That's not... They need like a... They need that older guy who basically... Like a Jimmy Butler. You remember... They need this type of who basically... Like a Jimmy Butler. You remember... They need this type of guy. There was this...

You remember there was a team meeting, right? And then two players, they were arguing and having a meeting about... What were they arguing about, Gil? What were these two players talking about? Like text messages going out and shit like that. Video program? Cute shit, right?

And then the vet came in there and said, man, cut this shit out, man. We got a game to play. That shit didn't happen. Cap. So Kobe didn't walk in the locker room during that team meeting. Team meeting with you and D-Lo. There was a video circling around internet.

Wait, what happened? I wasn't even at the arena today. How'd that happen? Kobe didn't walk in and say, cut that kumbaya shit out. We got a game to play. He called me, though. So you were in there. So it might have happened.

Did you pick up first ring? Yeah, I wasn't there. I don't know what. They probably happened. I wasn't there, though. Who was he talking to? Probably them. Yeah, OK.

So you can't say fully capped. You just wasn't there. OK. Well, I wasn't there. Well, how you going to apologize when I'm not there, motherfucker? They didn't say it was an apology. They said it was a team meeting.

So there was a speech. Why wasn't you there, though? Because they told me I was detrimental to the team. At the time. I couldn't go. Little did, little did. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, you're detrimental to the,

Wait, wait, hold on. I said don't go, man. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on, so. No problem, and if you Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. No problem. If you start some shit... So you get outed, and then you become a detriment? That's crazy.

That's crazy. That sound like some... Yeah. Sound like a baby mama. I was fucked up, man. Can I get a shot? They're my man wrong, man. I'm scarred.

I got PTSD. I outed you and kicked you off the team. Hey, he might I'm Scar. I got PTSD. I'll outed you in, Kicks from the T. PTSD. Hey, he might be trouble. He might be trouble. I'm gonna out him, and I'm gonna make some hell in his head, and then he gonna be trouble coming here. Hey, that's some shit.

Nah, but, yeah. They just need somebody, like, when stuff gets a little rocky, someone's keeping them focused on the goal. Definitely head in the right direction compared to last season. Detroit, a beautiful city with fine people that we hold dear to our heart here in gills arena present Josh Hart Yeah, I already thought like a

Like a Westbrook yeah like somebody that he's not playing or like they look that can keep a Westbrook that can keep control, like, yo, hey, man, stop that bullshit. Yeah. Like, you know, when Bradley Bill told us that story of when Westbrook got traded there, so he got traded there, right, in the summer? Yeah, he got traded for John, right? John. He said, so they were playing pickup when...

So they were playing pickup, and Westbrook came in Right and then Westbrook is sitting on the side. They going up and down They said five minutes into it Westbrook went on the floor. Hey, give me the ball right and said Hey Who is this right? He's's pointing at Bill. This is Bill, right? He's the best player on the team, right? Then how did y'all go five minutes up and down and he didn't get the ball one time? Like, why, why, why?

Yeah, 5-on-5. Y'all practicing without the... Like, he's the first option, the second option, and if any of y'all get it, you're getting it from him. Right? You don't play basketball and he's just out here. He's Bradley fucking Beal. Right, right, right.

And he said, Bradley said, damn, when I heard that, I'm like, oh, shit, shit about to change around here. That's what they need. They need somebody to put everybody in their... Position. Position because, you know, most stars ain't really, they don't want confrontation like that. Right? you know the young guys don't want they don't

They're too young to be like yo a man. You'll get off that rock or something like that Like when we can't tell nobody what to do right now, so they gonna keep running over him until they Then what did he what they got Chris Paul there. Yeah. So that helps. I mean, that helps a lot. You'd be lucky to get a guy like Brunson, right? When you get someone like that has that mentality, no matter what team he goes into, you'd be

like, all right, cool. There's order. Some of these teams just don't have order like Wizards there's no order no one's telling you the number one option you the number two option and then trickle down it's just it's no two dudes out there just I'm gonna want I mean it's no bets I mean because it's just crazy to as a rookie I came in Kurt Thomas and Jerry Stackhouse my best at 36 like imagine what I'm in there Kurt Thomas and Jerry Stackhouse, my vets at 36, 36, 36. Like, imagine what I'm in there getting from knowledge and everything, every day. Yeah, Michael Redd, too, right?

Huh? Michael Redd, too, right? Michael Redd? He's still, but he's still. Like, Michael Redd, but it's just like the veterans, like the older guys were still around. Now it's like everybody, your vet is 26. You need to be like, all right, man. It's like, wait, huh?

Wait, hold on. Like, where's the older vet? Where's the guy that's going. Wait, wait, hold on. Like, where's the older vet? Where's the guy that's going to take the guys out to dinner? Like, where's the team functions? Like, when people say vet, when we say vets, we're talking about the people who are leaving the league soon. Stats don't matter to them. Playing time don't matter to them, right?

They're just trying to be in a functional, a happy place before the end. So those guys have the best vision. Haslam, those guys have the best vision because from them, it's all about team at this point. There's no individual. When it becomes individual stats of this, the star players are the selfish ones.

Right? Like if you go to Boston right now, the selfish players on the team is going to be Brown and Tatum for the most part. The only person who will have the clear vision of team is Al Horford. Right? Al Horford.

Holiday. Holiday, yeah. And Derek White, too. For the most part. But he's still trying to make a name for himself. But Holiday is a little older now. Al Horford don't got shit to do. He know he can be kicked.

Tillman. I can be Tillman still young, but I can be kicked out at any moment. Y'all can trade me in the morning. So, look, we're going to make sure everyone's on the same page. You're doing good, big dog. You got to pass the ball a little bit. That's that guy. Yeah, yeah.

So, before we move on, Brandon, I notice you've been enjoying the Skittles in the candy can. But all the yellow Skittles Have not been touched. You're not liking the Laker yellow. Yes now Gil. That's exactly That's I bet you don't eat them nasty as green ones, right No yellow green is this a subliminal shot at the Lakers nation? No, I'm just eating the green because the Bucs are going to win. Okay, Bucs. Our first cup championship.

Okay, all right. But no yellow Skittles. A plethora of yellow Skittles. Shout out. Eating the purple Skittles, bro. Doc Rivers today, holding up that cup. Cap. Darvin Ham, undefeated, too.

Now he ain't going to cap. Tonight is on. But Darvin Hamm's not coaching. He's undefeated, though. He's a coach. He's undefeated in the cup. His NBA Cup championship experience trickling over. I hope, pray, dog.

And then y'all got to deal with me tomorrow. I'm praying. Let's go, Buck. Oh, he parted the shots then. You got to take three shots. We going to talk Bucks in a second. If y'all lose, soon as it starts,

three shots start it off. You got O.K. C. over here. You got the Bucks. We going to talk Bucks in just one moment. He's nervous now. See how quiet he got? Yeah.

Damn, that's non... He's eating yellow skittles, man. He's eating. He's eating. What the fuck did I get myself into? Eating yellow skittles. Damn. For the previous NBA Cup champion, He done is it? You see that? I thought I'd get myself hung. Eating yellow Skittles. Dang. For the previous NBA Cup champion, Los Angeles Lakers.

You can't, listen, you just can't get hype. It's bad mojo you putting out there. When the Henny hit your body, man. You gotta be hype before that. We're gonna talk Bucs. He only get Bucs happy when the Henny hit his body. Talk Bucs in one second. Let Gil's mind prepare for it.

When the Henny in the system, ain't no telling. Uh-oh. That's what I'm going to be doing tonight. That's that Jack Daniels. That's what I'm going to be doing tonight. Mr. B specials that Jack Daniels hit. He over with. So we're going to talk, Buckson, in just a second.

I want Gil to get his mind prepared for it. But let's talk about the Heat quickly. They're in the sixth spot in the East. Jimmy Butler was asked about losing his shoe after the game, and here was his response. I don't know. Maybe I should have ran down there without a shoe. I don't know.

I'll take the blame for it. It makes me no difference. I like it. Put all the pressure on my side. I take it. I love it. I love all the adversity. Maybe I got to do better. Maybe I got to do more. But I hate losing. I despise losing.

Context. His shoe fell off over time. Instead of running back down the court with one shoe on, he stopped to put the shoe on. Kay Cunningham ended up getting a bucket. Pistons went on to win the game. Not the game. Not the game-deciding play, but he could have threw a shoe at the back of his head. He could have scored it on somebody else, though. It was a line drive.

It was in that highlight that we ran, though. Huh? It was in the highlight? Oh. Yeah, he scored on two people at the end. The layup at the end. Uh-huh. So I don't get how is that his fault, though. Oh, we got to scroll all the way towards the end, Paolo, in the overtime. Uh-huh. So I don't get how is that his fault, though. Oh, we got to scroll all the way towards the end, Paolo,

in the overtime. Let me just see. Come on, let me. Let me see it. Okay. Uh-uh. Ooh. With the orange,

the orange dew. Gotta respect you. DJ, I feel for you. What, we won it tonight? Walking to Detroit, that's... Fuck. Detroit was crazy. That's tough, Detroit? That's... Fuck. Detroit was trash.

That's tough, man. That's tough. No wonder you mentally fucked up. Fuck! Went through the fire, Mr. B. All right, so this is play right here? Nah, it's coming up in the NLT. Nah, they sent all the timeouts.

Shortly. But always a good time to watch. One of our favorite teams, the Detroit Pistons, our favorite cities in this great America, the Motor City. Hell yeah. Shout out to Detroit. Please don't press us. Shout out to Motown.

Man, that's a tough play. All right. So here's the play. You see his shoe is off. Okay, offensive rebound. Gets the bucket. And they want him there. So he picks it up and then.

Close game. Heat up one. He takes advantage of the numbers to score. And... I mean, he scored on two people. Scored on two people. He passed it to his man. Yeah. To Butler, man.

Okay. And then, obviously... Okay. Rest is history. Heroes three, no good. Okay, I got it. So Jimmy is known... You've seen Jimmy with the hair.

Jimmy is known for his legendary trolling, including showing up with fake dreads one year then an emo look the next year at media day Didn't do anything at media day this year to that level. So latest Internet theory suspects that Jimmy might be using his hair color to troll everyone about trade rumors So we got the photos of some of the different stylings So here are the different hair colors that Jimmy has rocked this season, aside from his normal look. So he rocked the blonde in early November, then shifted to red a few weeks later, then moved to blue,

and most recently he dyed his hair orange. So Internet conspiracies claim that these represent the four teams Butler is linked to in trade rumors. Blue for the Mavs, red for the Rockets, blonde for the Warriors, and orange for the Suns. So six-time All-Star... Orange? Wait, hold the fuck on. Oh, the Knicks? I thought you Warriors, and orange for the Suns. So six-time All-Star. Wait, hold the fuck on.

Oh, the Knicks? I thought you were going to say Lakers or Suns. Oh, okay, so wait, the blue is who? The orange and what? The orange for the Knicks? Hold on, the blue is who? The orange for the Knicks? The Mavs. Mavs blue.

The Mavs. Not the Philadelphia 76ers that... Or Orlando Magic. It looked like the Orlando Magic. What I'm saying is, there's been no reports of him going to Mavericks There's their ports Dallas has been one of his potential trade destinations according to report I thought it was him and in B. He's a get back together That's blue and be blue Texas. Okay, so they're now ready

The Rockets Texas teams read Rocko's maps. So he's been trying to get. The Rockets. Texas teams. Red. Rockets, Mavs. So he's been trying to get to the Rockets? There's been talk about it. What if I said red was for Miami, staying home? Mm. That'd fuck that up. Okay. Now, orange. Not the same color red.

Now, orange. More Rockets red. Phoenix Suns. What did you say? I said the Phoenix Suns is orange. He did say Suns. For who? What?

For Jimmy Buggers. Who they giving up? Mmm. Bradley Beal. A gentleman you mentioned earlier. OK, and then. That look like Lakers to me. Blonde for the Warriors.

No, no, I see Lakers in that. Lot of Karens in the back. I see Lakers in that. You know what I'm saying, that the Warriors about to get Zion? That's how you, you know how sorry your team gotta be? Where you, you spend your time as a reporter or a fan trying to figure out what his hair stands for? He's got multiple hair colors.

He's been changing it up. I'm just saying, like, oh, shit, Jimmy got purple on. He wants to go to Utah Jazz. God damn. Could be wanting to join the Crips or the Bloods. Oh, my God. This... He might get traded, though.

I know he getting traded, so it's... Ain't got nothing to write about. So, Six Time All-Star was asked about his recent hair colors this past Thursday after the Heats went over the Raptors and said, I can change my hair to whatever color I want to. There's no subliminals in my hair. Orange was the brightest color they had, so that's what I went with. It is a bright... I mean, I see...

You like to stand out. You going to the back? No, I mean, like, it just seems like when he does his hair, he wants people to talk about it, so... Yeah. Maybe talk about this potential trade before the deadline.

Hey, I just saw Jimmy. He had red hair. He had red? Yeah. That was supposed to be representative of the Rockets, but as Gil pointed out, it could be, hey, I want to stay in Miami.

Shout out to his big face coffee, too. Tastes like delicious coffee. Did you taste it? Mm-hmm. It was good. You got to send me some. Like. It was good, yeah.

So. You sat in our boss' room with Jimmy. Yeah, I was just, yeah. Did he? I thought I ordered some. Actually, I want to maintain your guys' relationship. But did he give any indication? No, he didn't.

No. He didn't? Brandon, you know something. No. Brandon, you still have not eaten a yellow Skittle. I just want to maintain your guys' relationship, but did he give any indication? No, he didn't. No, he didn't. Brandon, you know something. Nah. Brandon, you still have not eaten the yellow Skittle. I just want to point that out. Wasn't even a green. You can go to the Bucks.

That'd be a good blind spot. Did play at Marquette in college, though. Familiar? Or what? Familiar with the landscape. They would treat him well. Chicago, why he want to go back? We retired.

Red could also signify the Bulls if he wants to. Zach Levine's the Bulls. So do you guys appreciate Jimmy balling out despite the trade rumors? Obviously, that's been the talk of the town as of late. He put up 35. Why are you never in trade talks, Leo? Huh?

Why are the Lakers never in trade talks? They're always in trade talks. They can never. Nobody want our players. You can't trade talk. You can't afford it. You can't afford it. I haven't heard nothing. You can see the people we got on our team. Who want them?

Who want them? Bronny James is the second most talked about player on the team. Nobody want the rest of them. Everybody, real quick, before you continue, if you're experiencing audio issues, go ahead and hit that refresh. Your internet and your wifi is janky. They don't like us, bro. You may be a

broke boy. Is LA not a good place to be now? It's too expensive, bro. First of all, it's a lot of pressure. Put on a purple and go, y'all, one week, get him out of here. Y'all ain't got no patience. Think about the players. Who want them? Gabe players. Who want them?

Gabe Vincent. Who want him? They want him back. No, they don't. They like them. No, that's why we got him, because they ain't want to pay him. All right. Who want Little D-Lo now?

After you be talking about Little D-Lo, who want Little D-Lo now? Build him up, Nick. Build him up. Who wants Max Christie? I would love to have D-Lo on my team. Who wants Max Christie? Who is that? Exactly. Okay. Build him up. Who wants Max Christie? I would love to have D'Angelo on my team. Who wants Max Christie? I was in the NBA. Who is that?

Exactly. Okay. But he's on an expiring contract. You want to get rid of Jimmy? Cam Reddish. Huh? A great defender. We got a great defender.

A great defender. He was one of the most explosive offensive players in high school history. A Bugatti of defenders. A Bugatti of defenders that any team can need. I see when black people go to Duke, I don't know what happens to a man. It's like one of them things that. They get Duke. I don't know. They get Duke.

They go there, they take all their superpower, man. And then they come in the league, man, and they don't got shit. All right. Like him. They done took away his superpower. Him. Then we got Christian Cocoloco. Okay, who want him?

Nobody. Jackson Hayes. Don't even know who he is. Okay, who want him? Nobody. Jackson Hayes. Don't even know who he is. Armel. Got him. All right, Maxwell Lewis. Jalen Lewis. No, Maxwell all right.

Some up-and-coming prospects that could bolster any roster. He went to Pepperdine. He went to Pepperdine. He could bolster any roster. 6'6". Look at that Pepperdine. Oh, man. People are waiting for the train.

People don't go to Pepperddine go to the NBA now exactly He's a man about 30 though. Damn. Yeah, so he gonna be nice Damn play. All right. Then we got Jared Vanderbilt. Then we got Christian. Who? We ordinary defender in a buggy getter. We got the baby mama Slayer, right? He's one of my favorite He had an important He's one of my favorites. Man, yo, relax. Yo, relax. He had an important summer. He might not be winning today, but summer, he was MVP of the summer. That shot.

That man came up with, listen. A great addition to any roster. Oh, shit. Boaster your roster. He almost OJ'd in the summer. We got about out to this man. He showed up with... He showed up with the shovel like, what's happening?

Who needs to be buried today? I want to see my kid. But it didn't mean it's necessary. It didn't mean... But other than that, all we really have as assets is LeBron James Sr. Digging the ditch for the state of Mississippi. We got LeBron James Sr.

But he's 40. We got Anthony Bambi Legs Davis. Untouchable. We got Austin Reeves. Lemondaddy. Connect. Yeah. And our most prized joy is

Bronny James. Because we know damn well he can sell 500,000 jerseys. Why you gonna get Zion? I think you named a roster full of great trade pieces if I was another team in the league trying to come up off the start. I didn't name one

trade piece. Future Bugattis. Austin Reeves is a trade piece. Future Bugattis. Austin Reed is a trade piece. Honda Civics currently, but could be transformed into a Bugatti. No, he's a trade, yeah. He's a good trade piece now. Dude, we're trying to uplift and hype. But they're not making no more like this.

Little D, Austin, Bronny Jr. Give us Wimby. You know how you do. Little D Austin, Bronny Jr., give us Wimby. Bronny for Wimby. You know how we do. You know how we do. I think the Spurs will win that trade.

The Spurs, he might pop like, pop like go to L.A. It depends on how you sell it. Like, hey, listen, listen. Bronny James, look, he gonna give you one, two points if you put him in. But he's going to sell jerseys.

But them jerseys? Ooh! A Spurs jersey, Ronnie? You're going to put your pockets fat? Right? That's how you sell it. You can't sell the basketball part. You got to sell after.

I would have to just. You know, have a little Ronnie James video game. Huh? I would consider it. If I was a team. Nobody want nothing. I mean, nobody want nothing. We don't have nothing.

Oof. D-Lo, a great player. We got to find somebody out there stupid enough, man, to take our pieces and give us back Gasol. Lakers tax. What happened to those GMs that, hey, we have a Kwame Brown. Give us Paul Gasol. And they'd be like, yeah.

Like, we need that. Cheers, man. We need that. We need that type of stupidity. Right? To look at somebody. To look at somebody. That's because he drafted Kobe.

And you give us 18 and 10. That's because he drafted Kobe. Who? You know who was 18? I know who was 18. We need sucking shit like that. Hey, man, I'm going to help you out, man. You say you got what? You got ay shit like that. Hey, man, I'm going to help you out, man. You say you got what?

You got a bust? It was Jerry, right? You got a bust? No, no, no. You got somebody who averaged 5 and 5, and you want somebody who averaged 18? Let's do it. Gil, we got to live here.

Go Lakers. Gil, we got to live here, Gil. We're back to the gym. No, I'm talking about like the Bulls, though. They don't want Zach Levine in them no more. I know, but they don't want what we got to live here, Gil. We're back to the gym. No, I'm talking about like the Bulls, though. They don't want Zach Levine in them no more. I know, but they don't want what we got. Yeah, but they don't want what y'all got. They don't want what we got.

Still, you got to give them up for something. You got to figure it out. You got people that contracts is done after this. No. You want to continue to pay Zach and just be. Yeah. We need somebody who needs to work for the Lakers. We need.

I got to wait till Bronco's tired. You got to tank. I'm tanking if I'm in the Bulls. That's what I said. If I'm the Lakers, I'm tanking from now on. No, no, no, not the Lakers work for the Lakers. I got to wait until Brown be tired. I'm tanking if I'm in the booth. That's what I said. If I'm the Lakers, I'm tanking from here on out. No, no, no, not the Lakers. If I'm the Lakers, I'm tanking from here on out. There's nothing good coming the next two years.

Hey, listen, I'm going to just be honest with you, dawg. I'm getting ready for the draft. Rob Palenka, the smartest thing you can do. Tanking. The smartest thing you can do. Because the trade for AD wasn't the smartest thing you can do. Thank you. The smartest thing you can do, because the trade for AD wasn't the smartest thing you can do, because you put BI in there when you could have put Kuzma, and we would have BI today still.

So the trade for BI right now just seems stupid. So just trade, bring the Gs. But right now, if you lose every game, not every game. Trade Blinka. Trade Blinka. No, we can't. But every game. Trey Blinker. No, we can't. But he has to. Look, he has to do something smart first. For Zach to win?

No, no, no. Trey Blinker. Right now, we tank it. Think about it. You sit down LeBron James. If you sit down LeBron James, right, and then Anthony Davis is just pretending

his ankles ain't working. Sit them down. We tank it, right? I'm letting you know right now. When them ping-pong bounces, when they bounce all around, trust me, it's going to say Laker number one.

Cooper flag. Cooper flag number one. And knowing our luck, we're going to have one and three, right? So we can get Cooper flag and Bailey, Cooper flag and Harper. Utah getting that pick. Huh? Utah getting that pick. They don't get two picks this year utah getting the first pick no matter not if lakers is in it the lakers won't be in it no what i'm saying is they're not gonna think

like that if we lose 1000 lakers is getting the number one pick i'm saying the next two years they need to be we need to lose today palinka needs to go in and say, Brian, sorry, brother. I'll play your son more if you sit down. Do one of those. I'll play Bronny James 30 minutes if you sit down. Is that what he's doing, though? Go get that boy from BYU. The fact that you say, you know what, oh, I think we can win with this shit we still got.

Ain't that what he's doing? That's diabolical, right? Yeah. Oh, shit. Gil, got some bad news for you. What? That Lakers pick, it's not owned by them see now Pelican at it. I believe they traded it to the Hawks if I'm not mistaken See, I'm saying that shit really means that man No, they need to be trying to lose all that shit you talking about that don't mean nothing man

Yeah, you're talking about you are you trying to debate? I you. No, what I'm telling you is that pick don't mean nothing. One more. No, I was going to say, do we got a pick? Do you ever want to be a team here in this NBA? You better give me back my pick. I want to see Brandon eat a yellow Skittle because... Man. Lakers fan Brandon.

I'm going to just be... You don't got to eat it. Moral of the story is... Brandon's back. He's back on the... We don't really give a fuck about what Miami got going on, man, with that AAU roster they got going on. We did all that to just say, man, move on. Y'all got an AAU roster too, huh, Lakers?

So you won't give up? You don't want Jimmy? Who we gonna give up? Who? Who? You know Pat Riley, you know that's Pat Riley down there, right? Pat Riley loved him second round. You know Pat Riley. There's a's Pat Riley down there, right? Pat Riley loved them second round. You know Pat Riley.

We got a bunch of Pat Riley players on the team that have run through walls. We got them from Pat Riley. Right. He ran through one wall. I got to go remember. You know how to use them. Miami is slave owners out there. They know how to run them.

We normal. We like, hey, come out here and play. Pat Riley like that. You quit Vicky Mining Company. Why you think they can't function? Why you think they can't function? Why you did they change for you because the whip we had here ain't the same whip he got right? They got different lips over there. Okay, Vincent. I'm calling them. Hey, come on Pat man. Bring me back. No he ain't He also known as the LaQuin Dickey mining company which which will be which player took a pay cut to leave

Someone took a pay cut. Caleb Martin. Like, I'm good. To leave Miami? Hell, no. To leave Miami, he took a pay cut. Miami was offering him more.

He said, I want to go to Miami. I'm going to go to Philly. And didn't he say, I want to go to Oregon? Yeah. Damn. What he alluded to

in his commentary. But let's keep it moving. The Thunder and Bucks meet in Vegas tonight to decide the NBA Cup. And we're hosting a live watch party on playback for the game at 5 30 p.m. Pacific. If you, yeah, you didn't know. You better show up for work, Gil. Can I jump on the line? You can jump on the line. I'm sure playback will log that. You got internet?

Alright, keep disrespecting me. I didn't mean, I didn't, no, no, no, I'm sorry, no, no. Come on, come on. I'm going to try this again. Is your family gonna be home? stop It's baby kids over there during the day All you hear is this person crying right I was playing what playing one time. They said, where my damn headphones at? Take a touch of my shit. I heard somebody crying. I'm like, man, tell your daughter to stop crying.

That's my son. Oh, there we go. Shout out Bebe. He was like, hey, hey, make me a drink. You did not say that? He ain't got his big man voice yet. He ain't got his voice yet, man. Now he's only five.

He ain't got his big man voice yet. He ain't got his voice yet, man. Nice on the five. He ain't got his big man voice yet. No, maybe back to a lot of quads for Nick. Everybody back there with Nick. Mom, everybody. Everybody be in the back. Kiana, come get this one. Mama, mama. Can you tell Nice to get out of here?

Like, ah. It'd be a lot. But Nick be holding it down. Right back. Right back. so nice to get out of here. Like, ah, damn. It'd be a lot. He'd be holding it down. Right back. Right back. Every day. Nick be holding it down, though. I'm going to point all that every day.

Every day. The kids sleep. I finally won when they were asleep. Yeah, that's right. That's why I'm looking over here. You got four kids still up. So as our previous match, we're doing a live park watch party right on playback from the NBA Cup Final, 5.30 p.m. Pacific.

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in the NBA Cup Final. The Thunder and the Bucks looking again to follow in the footsteps of the Lakers who won the hardest NBA Cup in NBA history. Champions. Made LeBron a five-time champion. Banners were hung. It's about to make Giannis a second two-time. Mini parade. Mini parade.

You know, like, you times. Okay, okay. Giannis. Mini parade. Mini parade. You know, like. Downtown. Sure. Bowling alley. If they, when they win it, we're going to have a parade up in Milwaukee. We went past the Conga Room in Lucky Strike. You already know, waving our flag. But Bucks were 12-3 in their last 15 games after starting season 2-8. Yep.

Thunder have won nine of their last 10 games, including five straight. Damn. Mr. B, who wins the NBA Cup tonight? The Milwaukee Bucks, man. It's our time, man. We started off terrible. You know, it was no chemistry. It was no energy.

It was no foundation, nothing. Trying to tell, like, a player right now. Yeah, it's pregame. It's after game. The Nassus got to them. You know, the fact that, you know, they flew me out and, you know, got their energy cracking. To what, the semifinal? No, no, I'm saying...

No, against Detroit. No, yeah, that's fine. That's fine. It's an NBA team. It's an NBA team. But once, you know, I got out there... How did you play for Boston and Detroit? Like, you played for Detroit, too.

Huh? Like, how did you do that? Like, Detroit wasn't mad? Like, you played for Detroit, too, right after Boston. Like, they won. After Milwaukee. After Milwaukee Boston like they walk yeah but Milwaukee traded you there and they got ready they booted you to fuck out right like I know you're young yet they get D and you know what I love will embrace you so how did you shoot like that's weird that's good that's like choosing to work over the other work. So what happened was... Are you like your work more than your wife?

Yeah, that's great. So what happened was they made a business decision. It was great. It was a good business decision. I had a great time in Detroit. I'm actually about to do business with Detroit Pistons. Okay. So y'all fucking up Mr. B's business. No, no, no. Show that video.

Because you laughing at your wife right here. Show them. Because they playing Detroit. That's business. No, no, no, no, no, show the video. Show the video. Because you laughing at your wife right here. Show them. That's how you laugh at your wife. That's you. Running man on your wife. On your wife. Running man on your wife. Like, yeah, girl.

I'm out here with my side chick. My ex-wife was good and then my other ex-wife was... I mean, they were both good. I had both... Shit, children. Shit, all my children from Milwaukee and Detroit. This free frame always concerns me because I'm trying to figure out what bruh is doing in the foreground. children See all my children from Milwaukee and Detroit Always concerned about In the foreground, but that's neither here nor there

Yeah, but yeah Yeah Your pants naked yeah, I mean my pants say at all my pants say at all to them That's why I'm wearing these today. Hey, which one say at all my pants these pants you see what say what it say It said fuck Boston. I'm not these today. Which ones? My pants. These pants. You see what it say? What it say? It say fuck Boston. I mean fuck Bucs.

No, fuck you. Fuck Boston. The two youths specifically. I mean the fact that we're in the championship after everybody talked crap about Doc and how we started. The fact that we're here in this moment. Yeah man, I'm excited. And who did y'all beat to get there?

What team? What team did y'all beat? To get there? Yeah. We beat Atlanta. we beat Atlanta. We beat Atlanta. That's a good one. Oh, shit.

Oh, yeah. Oh, shit, yeah. Atlanta still. Oh, no. Hey, we won. Hey, we won. Oh, no. We won.

It's the NBA team. They beat Trae Young. It's the NBA team. Yeah, it took two to two. They beat Trae Young with a whole bunch of them. Two All-Stars against one. OK. Two Hall of Famers against one.

Where y'all at? Where Braun at? Where Braun been? Why Braun been missing? Where Braun at? Who else did y'all beat? Reju Famers gets one. Where y'all at? Where Braun at? Where Braun at? Who else did y'all beat? Rejuvenated. Who else did y'all beat? Orlando. Orlando.

Yep. Y'all barely beat Orlando, who didn't have nobody. But we won. That's how they always win championships, though. Everybody got to get hurt. So for you to actually beat OKC, Shea has to get hurt. Williams have to get hurt. Dorton had to get to get hurt. Williams have to get hurt.

Dorton had to get hurt. Fucking Caruso got to get hurt. For y'all to be like, you know what? We might win this tonight. They not winning it. They not winning it. So, Mr. B, you're going with the Bucs. The point guard's from Canada, too?

No, no. It's been a bad year for Canadians. It has. That's fair. Let's move to this side of the couch. I agree with that. You don't got to move to this side of the couch, bro. You already know who we picking.

And my family from Milwaukee, I don't like. And your cousin. He from Milwaukee. By the way, your cousin, every time I go, they be like, tell my cousin Nick. And what does Nick say every time? Man, fuck him. He said every time. My girl said, you know, Nick my first cousin. I said, okay.

You don't support your Milwaukee family? Aw, man. I was out drinking. That was a girl coming? Yeah. Remember the one you... The one who was trying to get you? Yeah, the one who was trying to get you.

Bro, Nick got a lot of family in Milwaukee. She was trying to throw it at me. No, the Youngs is really in Milwaukee though. She was trying to throw it at me. No, the Youngs is really in Milwaukee, though. She was trying to throw it at me, yeah. That's what happens with the big three, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Came to the hotel and they ain't trying to get me.

She had to help me. I'm about to slut her out. Keep it in the bag. Keep it in the bag. I'm about to slut her out. Wasn't she married? Not no more. Little d-low.

Man. So, moving on. Not no more. That's the new thing now, huh? Yeah, yeah. Moving on. Anyway. Moving on. Wasn't she married?

So, you got Giannis on the Bucs side. You got SGA on the Thunder side. Who wins a LeBron James Memorial NBA Cup MVP? I'm gonna go with Shea. Okay. I'm gonna go with Shea. Shea better. Giannis.

Okay. I would give it to Thanasis because he's inspired the team. Hopefully he's sitting courtside again. He comes in, sets the screen. He might get on the court. His street club. You know, listen, this is how this game's gonna look.

Giannis is gonna have 40. 40, 13, and 6. Dayum's gonna have 36 and 5. And then they're gonna lose by 10. I see more. We're not losing tonight. Prince is gonna have one or two points. He's trying to keep his stats.

He's gonna make a three, Gio. He missed his first two threes. He ain't shooting no more. We know this team. I shoot 51%. If I miss this first, I'm good. I hate this shit. I saw that shit the other night.

No, see, I saw that shit the other night. I was seriously sitting there like, yo. People don't believe that's real shit, man. That's a real thing, for real. Like a motherfucker on your team who's playing for percentage, because you can, an Asian, I can sell he's just 51%. He missed one or two shots. He ain't thinking about nothing but a percentage.

So if he don't have a wide open flat out shot, he ain't shooting anymore. So now you got a guy who's not going to shoot the ball. He's a liability. Yep. He's a liability. He's a liability out there. Question for you, Gil. Who has the coaching edge tonight?

What you mean? Darvin? What you mean? We do. Darvin Hamm was an ex-champion in this. Darvin Hamm does have the championship experience, and we know how important that can be. I'm buying Darvin Hamm a job. Helping guide and uplift the team to greatness.

I don't want to jump in this one. Caruso also has championship experience, though. Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, if we're talking about championship experience, Caruso is like, you know, he, you know, why are we listening to him? Had Black Lives Matter on the back of his jersey. You know, from Gilson, you know,

why we wouldn't take no advice from him. So he's out of this. The only people that really got championship experience is Giannis, Doc Rivers, Darvin Hamm. Oh, Darvin Ham, NBA coach. Darvin Ham, I mean, he had to put the game plan together, so he had to stay up, watch film, and give us the whole shebang. Hands out of pocket to operate the film.

But we asked the chat who wins. I was on your side until you went back there. No, he brought it up, not me. Nah, you're not going to go back there. No, I said he brought it up. You're not going back. No, he brought it up. I didn't bring it up. No, you Nah. Nah, you're not gonna go back there. No, I said he bring it up. You're not going back. No, he bring it up. I didn't bring it up. No, she did. No, you doubled down on it.

You're a double downer. You're a double downer. You're a double downer. You're a double downer. You're a double downer. You didn't have to do that. You're a double downer. So, David Caruso, motherfucker. So, we asked...

He the experience. We asked the chat, who wins the NBA Cup? He the experience. Everybody got experience in here. You didn't just hire this nigga off the street. Everybody got experience in this motherfucker, right? He talking about you. All right, yeah, understand. Who is the NBA cup? Off the street No, no, no. I didn't look that in the eye. Real host. No, that's the funny part. That was a dead ass serious. I'm driving down and looking at it like, this looks like the motherfucker that sent me. Hey man, is this you? He's like, yeah.

I'm like, I was supposed to have an interview with you. You did. You did. In the Maybach truck. My ginger paste dog. I'm dead ass serious. When they sent me the email, I was like, damn, why does this motherfucker look familiar? You do look familiar.

And then I'm driving and he's running towards me. I was like, damn, why does this motherfucker look familiar? You do look familiar. And then I'm driving, and he's running towards me. I'm like, dude, it's him. Hey, you. It's you? Hey, man. Look, we're supposed to have a meeting. Just come to the house. You're the first thing hiding on the street.

I was on the street. Hey. An inspiration to the community, though, with my daily jogs. I really uplifted the local community. You be jogging every day? Ginger Pay. I wouldn't really call it a jog. More a power walk. How much you lose every day? The problem is, I lose it

and then I come here and we got the donuts. And I get it right back. I'll just make a show. You work out to eat. I'm one of those, too. There's a better workout thing. It's called Ozempic.

No, not trying to get the Ozempic neck, Gil. What the hell is Ozempic? Yo, do you walk to the spark over here? You know where you sit. You running by the spark over here? I just big- That's just big- I be walking my dog in the morning, like up the hill.

You just got a big-ass head. That's it. That's just all it is. I wanted to go work out to eat. I wanted to go work out to eat. You get the soggy Ozempic neck. No. Yeah, because you lose this.

It's just- You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you just start looking like Ice Spice. I like that Ozempic neck. No. Yeah, because you lose this. It's just... Yeah, you just... Start looking like Ice Spice. I like that Ozempic shit. My boy been on the exhibit for a while. No, I got off.

I got off. You off the O-neck? Constipation? No, I didn't like how it feel. I'm trying to tell you. It's all fidgety and stuff. I did it for a week. Ozempic?

What, Ozempic? So, let's talk about Gil's favorite coach. Taurasi and shit. I need it. I don't want to feel it. So let's talk about Gil's favorite coach. I need it. You're not supposed to drink alcohol on Zip-It, though. It ain't the Zip-It. It doesn't sound like I'm an alcoholic. It ain't the Zip-It. It's the Hennessy Wig on Zip-It, right?

You're not supposed to take 35 shots off. This is passed down from generation to generation. That's the alcohol. Passed down to the next. It's passed down. It literally says on there, do not drink alcohol with this. Like, that's what he's feeling. Man, I'm feeling drunk now.

I might need to get on. You don't want to get on. You skinny fat. But I did lose dog. I lost like. HR, hold on. I'm fat. Remember when I was skinny, skinny shit?

That's why I'm getting fat again. I stopped this shit. I'm getting back. Man, I want to get back up. I thought it was just crack. But it was those zip-picks. Okay. I was like, damn. I thought it was crack. I was like, damn, my brother done hit that pipe. I'm gonna crack everything.

I'm just saying, man. I was like, damn. Nick done hit the pipe. He's on tomorrow. He's a coach. Uh, Delonte West About to be in front of the 101 How that shabby is shivering You just going to laugh at me if you see me on the one-on-one? No, I'm going to do this. You ain't going to say nothing if I was? Beep, beep. How's that champion shivering?

I smoked it. I smoked it. I smoked it. Let's move on. We got to talk about Gil's favorite coach, Doc Rivers. Should have took the money. Hey, no, no, no. We're going to do it right here.

If you can go back in time. No, I'm not doing that. No, if you can go back in time. I will never take it. Because I helped you. I helped you on this decision. Would you take that two-year deal with the Timberwolves or that one-year deal with the Timberwolves or that one you deal with the Golden State?

Warriors. Remember, think about it. It was the Tibs. All I want to play with Tibs. Oh, okay. It was more money and your career. Over here, you won a ring, but you didn't see the league no more. I fucked that up after I won it.

I did that on my own. Okay. I got pulled over and shit. Let's talk about Gil's favorite coach, Glenn Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers had some issues with his voice in the past. He recently addressed this in discussions with the media. Let's take a listen. A throat guy called me and said, it's time for evaluation.

You had a throat guy? Yeah, I had a throat guy called me and said, it's time for an evaluation. You have a throat guy? Yeah, I had surgery. When I was with the Celtics, they found a polyp, and they had to do surgery on my vocal cord, which is for a coach very dangerous because one bad move, you have no voice. Our players would love that. But, yeah, so he actually called me, said he heard something, so we'll get it checked.

So how are you taking care of? So doctor said my throat guy called said it's time for an evaluation Naturally the internet ran wild with that quote or cards and graphics. Oh god sure Possible moment in some people's opinion. Do you think doc will get the treatment he needs from his throat guy? Oh my god So that's probably why they can't hear when he's calling plays then. So now I get the the beginning of the... So what what what originally happened to him? I think he had to have surgery. Like that's what I'm saying, what happened to the... did he get hit or something originally? Nah, nah, nah. Somebody went too far on his throat. Fuck. I was trying to be... I was trying to be normal. He said happened. I was trying to be normal.

He said I had some clogs up in my throat. I'm not with you, dog. I can't do it. I was trying to be normal. I apologize to the city of Milwaukee, to Buckman, and most importantly to my father, Marcus Johnson. Dad, you know I need a check. You have to hear me back.

Christmas is around the corner. You can save me from this misery. Everybody was thinking that. I just said the obvious. So let's keep it moving in the spirit around the corner. You can save me from this misery. Everybody was thinking that. I just said the obvious. So let's keep it moving. In the spirit of the city. But, no, again, like, did something happen? Like, did he hit, like, when he was younger or something?

Like, didn't he say what happened? Like, he hurt himself? Like, what? Yeah, he was playing around with somebody and went too far. So, so, here. I'm not looking this way, man. No, he went too far with his fight. Here, here. What happened? Like...

I don't know. I didn't... I don't know. What happened, man? He was going too far. Okay, but, okay, so he need throw surgery and... He had to throw surgery. So that means his throat doctor heard something in his voice. And so he needed to come and check that.

I want to meet him or her, the throat doctor heard something in this voice Me here or her doctor Don't know why you Know what this is why this is why I'm sorry doc. I was trying to be professional around here, right? Try to be professional like that and that's crazy cuz's, you know, he's a coach, so he needs his... Hopefully he gets the right treatment and he can go back to being normal so I can keep fucking with him. I really need it. So you hope he gets back to full strength so you can keep fucking with him. Wow.

Hey, pause all this. Hopefully he gets his throat right so I can keep fucking with him. Spencer, please scrub all of this. He said, hopefully all this. Please delete. Please scrub this from the episode. Spencer, please scrub all of this. He said, hopefully I get his throat right. And let's get back in right here. And go. In the spirit of the season, we are bringing you holiday-themed segments all week here on Gil's Arena. Yesterday, Kenyon was the winner of the gift-wrapping challenge. I think because the chat is scared of Kenyon.

I figured that. It was gift-wrapping. Gift-wrapping. He put a bow the gift wrapping gift wrapping yeah that was crazy so today we bring you uh the Santa spin wheel ho ho ho oh they're gonna come over here they're gonna come over so crew set up a prize table uh with uh luxurious red solo cups each with different colored bows attached to them each talent will spin the wheel of bows, and the bow matches the gift under the cup. So prizes include underdog bucks, gift cards, and much more. Hopefully some roast barks, which we are still in hot pursuit of. The grand prize is getting the show to be named in your honor for the day.

So you get your own arena like Lexi had previously after she smacked all of you guys in the shootout. Ooh. Swaggy's arena. About to do it. In case we have a new fan. So, Swaggy, you're up first. Go ahead and spin. I'll go first, for real? You get to spin the wheel. My dog. Lead the flask. Swaggy, listen. Don't worry about it.

Get to it. And I'ma bring the flask in the front, because it's good luck. I do everything with my flag So so glass thing right here, so I got it on the Just spin it wherever you spin it Spin it we go It's like the price is right So landed on landed on the white. Grab white. So you get a white.

I love white, my favorite color. What you get? That's great. That makes sense, brother. And a condom, if I'm not mistaken. And a condom. Extras medium. Wow.

Best prize under there. A bite-sized beverage and condom. I'll get one spin or two? One. One spin. Mr. B, you are up next. Damn. Might get lucky. Oh, man.

Never use those. Never use those. What is that? What they call that? Mr. B, okay, you got gold. What? I got the gold. That's the gold.

It counts. Gold. I got the gold. Damn. I got a key. That's the gold. It counts. Gold. I got the gold. Damn. I got a key. Your arena for a day. Oh, Mr. B. That means the Bucks is going to win the gold, too, today.

It's a lot of gold. You are free to redeem that at any point in 2025. It will be your arena for the day. You're going to do it tomorrow, right? Hold on. So this is for 2025? You are free to redeem it will be your arena for the day. We're going to do it tomorrow, bro. Wait, hold on. So this is for 2025? You are free to redeem whenever you want it. It is your arena.

Good. Shit. Valentine's Day for my girlfriend. You can do a shout-out on Gil as early and often as you want. Gil. I'm going to do Valentine's Day for my girl. Is that an autographed John Elway jersey? Just have a party here.

It's all you. This man got an autograph John Elway Jersey That's how you spin you get your arena back You get your arena back. Oh No, so he doesn't get it I'm not spinning again once I hit the gold once I hit the gold Right. So, unfortunately, I get the arena back. Gil's arena. Therefore, I can overtake his. So the day he decides

to go brinage in his arena, it's Gil's arena back. Oh! Damn, that's bullshit. No, that's no. That's how you always be. No, that's no. I'm the only one who spent it right. No. What are you talking about? No. You spent it correctly. I spent, I'm the only one who had a full spin. No, you talking about? No. You spint it, bro. I spint.

I'm the only one who had a full spit. No, you got to do it again. I can't do it. No, you got to do it again. You can't have the same thing. No. I can't help if God bless these hands. I'm about to say, here, I swear.

That wasn't no damn God. God bless these hands, bro. God bless these hands, bro. That is his. God be blessing you, bro. Right, bro. I ain't going to lie. God bless these hands.

I'm the chosen one, right? A blessing for a blessing. What is the odds of that, though? He's an alcoholic. Boom. He spint it. He spit it. He spit it. God bless right God bless these hands. I'm the chosen one He's an alcoholic boom he spent liquor That's your favorite yeah, I told you boy your hands know the hands never lie Honey, Jack the hands never lie honey. Jack in a cup. You got spent again Gil. You can't have the same as me No, no, why would I win gold to go then try to win something weaker?

Why would I win gold today and does it's already Because it's already taken. That's loser mentality. You finally won. I'd rather, listen, what is the best, what's the best gift there? Gold? Huh? Gold, that's all I know. U.S. ain't gold. I don't want silver. I don't want bronze, black, blue.

It might be some money in the other ones, though. Is there some money in the other ones? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's money? Yeah, there's money. Oh, I know money. I know, I know money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That nigga, hey, he folded. Uh-huh. That's what I'm saying. Yes. I know money Green pop it go get going again Oh red Oh red in the arena red cup

Boom dildo. Boom, dildo. Also known as a gildo. A gildo is crazy. Yo, that's a good one. Mark it down, put it on the website. Boom! Hey!

I told you I had no money! I'm the boy with no money! Huh? OK, how much is that? $5. I don't care. $5? $5, OK. No, bro I'm the boy. No money. How much is that? Five dollars. Five dollars. Oh, wait. What's the other one? Let me see.

Nothing. Look what I dodged. Boy, I'm smart. I don't even know what Olive Garden looked like. Let's keep it moving. They got roller seats. Let's keep it moving. Shout out to our crew for putting this together. Olive Garden have roller seats.

I don't know what Olive Garden look like. So, we're about to talk some Clippers, but we got a special guest that pulled up to the arena. World-renowned Clippers fan. Marcellus Wiley is in the arena. Number renowned Clippers fan. Marcellus Wiley is in the arena. Number one Clipper fan. My dad's jokes coming. Get him out now. What's going down?

Uh-huh. I'm over it too. What's up, B? When you pulled up, I thought Gil owed you some money. Thankful to see. What's going on with you? It's all love, man. I just ran into Gil. Uh, thankful to see what's going on with you. Aw, it's all love, man. I just ran into Gil. We were at AAU.

Our little ones was out there, so we chopped it up. Had to come by and see what y'all doing over here. Y'all clowning, too. Y'all are at it, dawg. We're having a good time. This is layers. So you were hanging out. Just came as a guest, but you got to talk Clippers, and we had to bring one of the biggest

Clippers fans in the game here. I might be top dog now. They done got rid of Clipper Darryl. I said that yesterday. Man, Clipper Darryl gone. No into it, don't love? He don't got the section? Nah, they got him domed out. Where's the janky beamer? The multicolored beamer?

Well, it's because of the Lakers. You remember one of y'all security guards knocked him out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when that went down. That was the Lakers? That was the Lakers security. Trying to act like he didn't know which team ran the city. So, you know, Kip Adele ran in there and did it right. Wow.

Yeah. That's the money for that, right? I don't know. $150 million. That's crazy. But he sued, right? Yeah. Oh, so he can't go back right now.

Yeah, that part. Into it, though. Deal with it. So we've got to talk a little bit about James Harden. Harden was cooking against the Jazz last night down in Inglewood. Systematic, baby. Harden outscored Utah 24-20 in the first quarter. He went on to drop 41 points on 11-for-17 shooting,

including 7-for-11 from three and 12-for-14 from the line in 31 minutes of work. Harden's second 40 40 point game this season has zero such games in the last three regular seasons combined so after the game here's what harden had to say when asked about how he leads this team james you've always had an important role with different teams but in the context of this group what's been your leadership approach everything everything more more than um more times not especially for these last couple years just because you know the the

the uh experience that we have on this team um you know so just for me just making sure i communicate not over communicate not overdoing it but when i see opportunities you know voice my opinion or uh lead by example but uh this you know, this team has done an unbelievable job. And even with injuries, we still fight through. We still figure it out, you know, because it's a part of the game. But just proud of the guys, how we answered. We bounced back, you know, after a three-game losing streak. And now, you know, we get a couple days and we take our talents to Dallas.

So in that reporter scrum, Harden also spoke about his workout routine and all the work he's putting in to get ready for these games. So, Marcellus, we're going to start with you. Is James Harden getting enough credit for his leadership on this Clippers team this year, especially with Kawhi still being out as he bounces back from his knee issues? Yeah, not for his leadership. Everybody knows he can ball.

And when he has less around him, he's going to do more. And he's at his best when that's when the team is set up like that. But in terms of his leadership, they don't give him credit because he doesn't wear leadership like everybody wants to see it. You know, he ain't over there just barking at cats. He's not sitting there giving you the eye contact. He's leading by example. And most of the time, people don't really register that. But no Kawhi. Think about it.

Normal Powell right now is leading us in scoring. Coming off every screen he sees though, and he coming downhill. And that dude is a beast, but all that's happening because Harden is stirring that pot, and he ain't just doing it with his point production. He doing it because he's getting those guys in the right places. So nah, he don't get

enough love. Nick, you were at the end to a dumb last night, Englewood. I was a little disappointed in Harden. Did you see your Cleveland high jersey? What? Just because knowing Harden that I know, he had 36 at half. At half. And didn't shoot the ball again, shot two shots the third quarter.

Because he's going to be tired next game. He already know. Know Kawhi. They're not playing the back-to-back. 36 and a half, I wanted to see a 60 ball, you know. Yeah, yeah. Cheer for my dog. Yeah, yeah.

He did not take a shot, but that's... But that's the way the team is built. That is, yeah. They like, look, Jones wasn't playing. T-Man not playing. They young. Don't wear it out right now. It don't matter that much.

They just see that lineup, brother. You know, they be having like the pictures of the lineup. I said, ugh, coffee look like a smoker, mumbo. I'm like, who are these people? Because I showed up at second quarter. I'm looking up. They down by, they winning by 30. So, yeah, yeah.

Harden's whole first quarter. You missed the whole first quarter. You missed the 24th. Yeah. Exactly. 24th quarter. You missed all the points. I'm disappointed.

I've seen like 10 of them. That's why I wanted to see more. Yeah, it was crazy. Y'all loving our squad? What y'all talking about up here when I ain't here about the Clippers? Y'all stuttering. We hate Clippers. We love the players.

I'm a James Harden fan. Okay. They need We love the players. I'm a James Harden fan, so... Okay. You know, just the Clippers. They need to change the name. You ain't feeling that? No, I think where they're at now, the new arena and everything,

I think it needs to be a whole new thing. It don't need to be Clippers no more. Rebrand. They should rebrand. They already rebranded. They just didn't change the name. I just think the name is such a... It has so, so like with the whole

Down Sterling thing that went on and just the history of knowing the Clippers is shit Hmm like it's just like, you know, Otter McCandy, you know, they would used to play at the LA Sports Arena Like is it like like no, no, no, have you been a fan? I'll say like oh wait. Oh wait like right before like Lob City. Also you all see this is oh, I was wondering why you was Delusional Clipper fan you came in really like when they started like trying to be a actual team because before like before that the The history of the Clippers was whoever we draft is three years, like, and then you're

out. Four years and you're out. But I'm never going to pay you as a main player. I'm not bringing you back. So all those stars that they were getting, it would just come in and come out. It was just, we're going to keep the roster so cheap because the fans. So it was not about winning. Like, when Blake Griffin came.

That's when it started changing. Yeah. I mean, they had excitement when D. Miles and Quinn Richardson. I mean, when they were there, that's when we started doing this. Listen, I was a free agent in 03. That BD did, right? No, no, no. Later.

Now, BD came. He came after. Later. He came in 03. That's what I'm saying. He came in 03. No, 03. I played BD came he came after later. He came in. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah No, oh three. I play BD like when I was a free agent. Oh three They had all those Cora McGeady

They had Lamar Odom all those are free agents. Yeah. The rumor was he was letting them all go he didn't care Yeah, and NBA had to step in and say no you're gonna pay somebody this summer. You have to spend some money It was a trampoline like everybody was go there get they jump off and go somewhere else and get a break That's what it was the fact that they have New structure new mindset is like you'll get rid of that name because the name I know you know players to the Pelican to work You know, I know you wait. Itippers. No, players? To what players? I know you play for the Pelicans. Like, what the fuck?

That's going to be the name? Then you change it back to the... No, it could be something. It could be the Englewood something. Englewood. You just want a new name. I just want something different from the Clippers. Like, take that Clippers thing out because it's like, it's just... Englewood Clippers.

But it's too many franchises that get good sorry and we ain't tripping on the name like right now the bulls ain't got no shot right the clippers but it's still the bulls but it was a time when you said bulls it meant something yeah so the meaning is really based on if you win it ain't six championships though with the bulls the clippers don't have one they ain't got nothing so why are you gonna it up? Because it's worthless now. It's never been worth nothing. It ain't never been worth nothing. It's worthless now. I say win with this to prove everybody.

Look, you're going to let all of that, what we've been trying to hold our breath for, go to say, all right, we're going to rebrand, new stadium, new name, now we're going to have a new fortune. That ain't the reason. The reason is if you get dogs, if Kawhi come back, James Harden keep playing like this, Norman Powell, Zubach,

we get one more, maybe Trey, Dan Lonnie. Look at your face. We better than the Lakers right now. All right. Talk to the shit. We better than the Lakers. That's the fact.

That's the fact. So we got dudes. We got dudes. And I've been a Clipper fan. This is why I don't like when people clown the Clippers. I'm like, my dad's from Texas, San Diego like clown the Clippers I'm like my dad's from Texas San Diego So the Clippers and while it was everybody, you know

Lakers everybody talking about Showtime my daddy banging for like Michael cage and them kind of cats like my daddy was very curling NBA history But no a Benjamin so I'm a real one with the Clippers, but they got us they got a slight shot It just all got to go together and Kawhi got to come back No, would you make a move for a mellow ball? I Don't see him in James. No, no, no, no get no James can go damn What all about The future I'm talking about for the future. I'm talking about for the future of the team.

No. Well, James 35, but look, I keep James for one reason. When all else fails, you know James Harden going to be at his best. Yep. And that's why they kept him over PG because everybody was saying PG and Kawhi, duh. And then it was like, but one of them usually is hurt, and then that just changes the whole team dynamic. You need somebody who always you can plug in. Oh, they look ugly?

Watch me make this look better. That's James Harden. You bring LaMelo, we got to be ready all around him for him to just take us over the top. Other than that, I don't see him carrying us from the dungeon like that. What about LaMelo and LaMelo? What about the future, though? Say you guys get him in a couple years.

If he ready in a couple years. I mean, he's arguably the best point guard. He's sick. No, I'm saying ready to do what we need him to do. Because then who's going to be eating? It's going to be him and Kawhi? So that means he's going to be in the James Harden role? No, no, no.

Kawhi's probably retired, right? And you keep James like you just said. So they can play together because James can play with him. You're retiring Kawhi? He don't even play right now. That's giving him more years. But when his contract is up, right? In what? Yeah. What are you talking about? Five-year again? He's talking about a three-year extension. Three-year extension. So if he retires in a couple of years, I mean, you're going to need a young superstar though, right? To carry this. So who's out there that's coming to L.A.? L.A. dude coming back home and not

to the Lakers, that'd be sick. I just can't see it right now because I know where we are and what we need is somebody to carry the water. And LaMelo is a beast, but then you ain't got nothing else around him. He's going to get frustrated. He's going to be mad at you because now

you're wasting his prime year with no championship. He ain't got nothing now. LaMelo? He ain't to get frustrated. He's going to be mad at you because now you're wasting his prime year with no championship. He ain't got nothing now. LaMelo. He ain't got nothing now. I mean, it'll look better in L.A. It will make more noise in L.A. too. But see, this is the problem with, I say the Clippers, you have a guy who's a basketball fanatic, right? The owner?

The owner. Yeah. Right? The owner? The owner. Yeah, yeah. He's a basketball fanatic and he has these, one name he's stuck on and he has to treat it like a real investment, like how he got rich. This investment might not work anymore, but I still got value for it. And I need to prepare, I need to prepare to take a dip to climb back. So I need to use Kawhi Leonard right now. Who's going to give me something good for him? Right?

And I need to really try to leverage it now because if I still keep sitting on him, he's going to get older, and then he's not going to have the value. Right now, he's still holding value. And I need to probably try to make a move for him to get something that's solid. Like when Kawhi is playing, amazing. Them knees ain't them knees anymore. People got to understand, them knees ain't the same knees that he had before. Those knees is going to give me 30, 40, 50 games, 60 best, winning championships, and they can last.

Not going to happen. Right? He's like Embiid. These two people's knees is not longevity greatness. Nah, to your point, that's what happened with the Lakers. They had to take that step back after Kobe and Gasol had them two. Then you let Gasol go for nothing. Then you look around.

You didn't get anything valuable back. Now you got to take that dip down. Get it all the way back. For us, taking a dip down, you can't leverage Kawhi to do that because Kawhi is the reason why you even got those expectations and hope. It ain't James Harden.

I know. I put up to this like, eh. What are you going to do? I already paid you. I already paid you knowing you ain't those expectations and hope. Like, it ain't James Harden. I know, I put up to this like, eh. So what are you going to do? I already paid you. I already paid you. No, you ain't really played that much. If I can go get somebody who's sustainable, who's young. But what team is raising their hand saying, yeah, we want the shredded knees Kawhi right now?

Nobody. So then we're not going to get proper value. There's dummies out there, trust me. Lakers. Lakers. We'll fuck around and give you Anthony Davis. Like, oh, Kawhi. All they hear is two times MVP.

That's all the shit they hear right there. You just throw out the good stuff. We ain't giving up Anthony Davis. We dumb. We dumb. We dumb, right? Yeah, yeah. For all the reasons.

So it's going to be Bronny, LeBron, and Kawhi. Big three. Like, we go after teams that got, let's say, you go to, you try to leverage back something from OKC. Some picks back. We'll give you Kawhi. Like, you guys are real solid. You just need a little oomph.

You don't need much from them. You just need 30, 40 gains from them. Ooh, he can take you over the top. Give us back some of them goddamn picks you got. If they don't win it all this year, next year. Yeah, fuck around, do that. Like, they have so much real estate that they can give you back something for hope right As long as I got my Shay and all these guys, I don't really need nothing You're asking for pigs and you know something here cool. I can do that. All right, you go to Houston

You got a whole bunch of three men and two men that you can probably give us something that he can take you over the top to Western Conference second round or what? Y'all sound like oil salesmen because y'all talking about three years from now. Yeah, giving up Kawhi to get some picks So that's basically saying like I'm looking forward to whoever reclassifying in high school I want to We gonna build off of that Yeah, that's what we're waiting on. No what I'm saying fine in high school right now. I want to... Elijah Arenas is the name. That's what we're waiting on.

That's not going to be championship ready day one. Y'all never going to be championship ready. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no. Y'all never championship ready. There they go. You know, just like anything, you invest in the wrong thing, it can sit there. Sometimes you just, you're stuck.

Sometimes you just got to let it go. You already, you let Paul George go. You let Russell Westbrook go, right? Yeah. Is that looking like a good thing? Kawhi, Kawhi, look, Kawhi, you let him go, you good. But is that looking like a good thing? And just move forward.

You got a new building. There's players that's going into that building like, this is nice. Yeah, a lot of them. You ran all the boys we talked about. Is that looking like a good thing they let Paul go, though? Yeah. Man.

Yeah. It is. Oh, now it is, huh? We was telling you that. You're sure? We was telling him that. Oh, you were disagreeing with that, huh? We was telling him that a long time ago.

We were telling him that a long time ago. Why? We said Paul George was cooked, and he thought. Like, I'm looking at, like, even with Kawhi, you look. No, no. Think about it. Look at your team right now. He's cooked.

He got cooked. No, look at your team. He adjusted. He adjusted. He cooked. He adjusted. He is podcast P now. Love him.

Love him. How you going to say that? Because they starting off slow? We ain't starting off slow. They are trash. I know they are trash. They are nasty. But no, no. Trash. And We ain't starting off slow. They are trash. I know they are trash. But look, they are nasty. But no, no.

Trash. Embiid ain't been playing a ton, so what, he trash too? We could trade him. At this point? They ain't trading him. I mean, no, at this point, no, at this point, we can trade him. Kawhi for Embiid? If he get hit in the face or get hit on.

Hey, this is why players shouldn't be GMs, and most of them suck when they are GMs. We ain't seeing it from the right perspective. Sometimes doing nothing is something. And y'all ain't looking at it like that. Y'all like, we gotta do something. Like, do nothing. Like with your girl, you're like, baby, we can just chill tonight. That's doing something. That's doing nothing, but it's something.

No, as the players, we see it faster. She can chill upstairs faster. No, we see that. We see his behavior like, oh, he's done. Oh. We can see it. He's done.

He be hanging. He be chilling. No, we see he's done. Yeah, yeah. He partying too much. He coming to party. He partying. He ain't.

Yeah, he Jordan. He ain't doing it no more. What'd they say to Jordan? We need to let him go. And everybody's like, why would you trade him B now? So you would let Jordan go? You let Barkley go? Barkley?

All them cats used to party, don't they? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Barkley was the MVP. Don't do that. Whoa! Whoa! Play that at a high level, boy. Don't play that at a high level. Don't do that. Play that at a high level. Play that at a high level every night. You let Shaq go.

Play that at a high level. When it counted. Oh, yeah, he partied. Play that at a high level. When did it count? Huh? When did it count? It always counts. When he got on the number one team? That's when it counted? the Suns Barkley. Yes. He was MVP when he won MVP

What was the team it won MVP was the team before he got there Barkley always you have to know Yeah Walk into the league doing what he always did. Hall of Famers? I don't care. I don't care if Barkley partied or not. You can't do that to Barkley. Why you count rings? When did Barkley get there? No, no. When did Barkley get there?

Get where? To Houston? 93. 93 he got there. All right. Let's go from 89. They won 55 games. Mm-hmm.

54 games. Mm-hmm. 55 games. Mm-hmm. 53 games. 62 games. They're playing hard. That's who the Suns was before Barkley got there.

Dan Marley out there eating. Right? Before Barkley, think about what I'm saying. Before Barkley got there. Right. 55-54, 55-53. And nobody was watching them until Barkley got there. That. Can't say that. 55-54, 55-53. And nobody was watching them until Barkley got there. That's not what I'm saying.

Well, he ain't saying that. Right here, you know. But what did they do? They went further with Barkley, didn't they? Right, yes, yes. To the finals, yes. Okay, yes. Somebody who wins an MVP, look what team he went on. A great player went to a winning team.

They won. He's the best player on it. He gets the MVP Hold on. We moving to goalposts. No, no, no, no, no stay right there. So say that about Katie then Yes, okay. I'll do that. Hold on. What's wrong Katie? No, no, no, he went to a winning team Why we need but why I gotta use someone that we're in here stay here because you're trying to fight you trying to I'm trying To tell you because we read what he did as a person. This has nothing to do with nobody else. So what I'm saying is he went there.

He won there, right? They won 62 wins. Right? That's his first year. His first year there, they won 62 games. But we know who they are before Barkley. They were a winning organization before Barkley. Now, once Barkley got settled in, what happened to the team okay but you move the GoPro let me know

this point out we were talking about if somebody's behavior party and hanging yeah yeah I know that as a player I'm like get rid of them coach yeah that's what you say you will do that to Barclay but you do that to Jordan no no no no no what I'm saying is if they're proven saying is if this partier goes to a team that's already, like if James Harden partying goes to Boston Celtics right now, he don't change the outcome of that team. They still going to roll. They still going to roll.

You can party. We're still going to roll. But they're rolling before they get to the finals. Right, he's not going to. This party guy is not going to a 20-team win. And he can party all he wants. They're a 55-team win. But why are you dismissing going to the finals?

Right. I'm saying they're a 55-team. They're one player away from the finals. And he's that dude. He's that dude. Everybody ain't that dude. Okay. But once this partier established himself inside this team, what happens?

What did they do once he became official? How much your partying affect your play? None, because I didn't party. You didn't party at all? Not like that. What do you mean not like that? What does that mean? He should have partied.

Like one or two games during the season when I was... He should have partied. Man, I need records. I need receipts. I don't mean... I don't know... He should have partied. I can't look at you, Swaggard.

Like, that's what I'm saying. The very next year, the same team. All right, all right, that way. 56 wins. I mean, I don't know he should have a look at you So I got like that's what I'm saying the very next year the same team 56 wins. I'm not 1059 When it's his team they 41 wins anyone traded then he goes down to who Houston Yeah, what happens when he gets the Houston team that was the way with yeah, they make a room. They make a room Oh, yeah, what did what the court. What did Clyde Drexler say? Clyde Drexler or Scottie Pippen say, who do they want an apology for? One of them said, we need an apology from that man. What he did when he came here. Am I right?

Am I saying something wrong? Yeah. We want an apology from that man. How old was he in Houston? Their championship team. He coming there trying to win the championship. But he didn't come with that attitude. He came with his. This was what in Houston? Their championship team. He coming in trying to win the championship, but he didn't come with that attitude. He came with his...

This was what, 97, 98? That's like the winners. Y'all blame him. 98? I mean, everybody in their career have the moments when they be... 38 is a wrap. It's a wrap, yeah.

Who was 38? He was ring champion. You better stop, dog. You can't do that. 96. I'm talking about from the Sixers to the Suns. That Charles Barkley. Why did he leave the Sixers?

I don't know. I wasn't. I want out of here. We can't win with me. We can't win with this team. Remember, when he got there, he asked Dr. J and what's-his-name, and they was like, yo, man, no, you got to get your shit together. Dr. J.

Oh. Now he's. Stop. Are y'all listening? After take the late Dr. J. What I'm saying is. J. Dr. J. Oh. Are y'all listening? After take the late Dr. J. What I'm saying is, he had veterans with him that's holding down the fort.

When he became the star, boom! And then he wants to jump ship. He wanted to go to Portland, who was the number one team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants to go. It's his team.

It's his team. Everybody. What I'm saying is his team. So what I'm saying is the number one team in the West is Portland Trailblazers. Yeah, yeah. The number two team in the West is the Phoenix Suns. He's begging to go. He begged to go to Portland first.

Okay. That's how the winner rings. We just going to act like that didn't happen? No, no. We don't lie about you. It's actually like other teams. And then he goes to the Phoenix Sun. You go to Utah Jazz.

Was it good? There's a lot of teams out there, too. A lot of teams are winning Phoenix games. But I'm saying those are the two teams he wanted to go to because he wanted to try to hurry up and get over Jordan. But once his personality kicks into the team, there is an effect. What effect? If you go to the finals?

I mean, it went to the finals. You went to the finals this year. Now what happens? Like, this is your first year around us. This is your first year with us. So you're just here. You're trying to figure it out. The second year, you're here.

What happens? Jordan's gone. Gil, as a player. They lost to who? As a player, who has lost? out the second year you're here man what happens Jordan's gone Gil and to be son as a player also as a player who was lost y'all lose you lose a big game you lose a game everybody paying attention to you lose everyone is trying to figure out and blame something or you they trying to frame it right and most of the time they're wrong you just lost to somebody who either better than you more were just better that day right it? It ain't that deep.

But now, we're looking back at Barkley and saying, oh, well, he got on the team and this happened. You can say that about everybody in the league that went against Jordan. Everybody got a friend. Everybody. Right now. All of them. Elijah won.

Oh, you won't even win when you retire. This is what I'm saying. You can say that about this Elijah world? I'm saying. You're going to miss Elijah? Football, football. You can say that about DeMar and Kawhi. Football, football. We have Tampa Bay Buccaneers, right? They won, right?

What receiver do they bring in the next year? A.B. Right? Yeah. So we know who A.B. is. Great, but we know who he is. Yeah, yeah. But the team itself is already established.

He's just one piece. Right. So the first year, he don't really affect the team itself is already established he's just one piece right so the first year he don't really affect the team because they're moving what happens the longer he sits in there well that's see this is how you skew the stats because how many teams went back to back thank you no so so you went back to back that you already talked about the chances you even doing it even if you get an upgrade at that position i'm talking about the personality of the team. That's a fact. You can't do that.

No, what happens when that entity sits there longer and longer? So you say they're a cancer. It starts becoming a cancer. If you're not winning. It's hard to be a cancer when you first get there. We're talking about he's already winning. It's hard to go anywhere and say, y'all won with me. We're going to win again.

Like back-to-backs in football, you got the Broncos late 90s. You got the Patriots did it. Dallas. And Dallas in the 90s. And then the AFL team. I'm just talking about the personality itself. Sometimes when a person comes, his personality can't take over the first year. Okay.

The longer he's there, it starts seeping in. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. His first year in Phoenix Suns, that's Phoenix Suns. Okay. He's getting MVP because of the system there. He's just the best player. He's dominating.

Everybody's playing a role. Now he has to come in the next year. Now it's more of his team. I'm an MVP. What does Dennis Rodman fit in this? Is he on the cancer side? Or is he not? Nah, he a winner everywhere he went,

even though he was a distraction. Like, where would you put him? Oh, I need a break. He was a distraction all three years. Right? He was a distraction the whole time, but who's the lead dogs of the team? Yeah, yeah. Right here. Is Michael Jordan, Scottie, they're the guys. So he's doing what he does best.

They don't win, though. But if he's not there, though, they don't win. They were winners before him. If Dennis Rodman's not there, they're not winning. They're not beating Utah if Dennis Rodman's not there though. They don't win. They were winners before If Dennis Robbins not there they not what he's not winning, but he's they not beating you talk. I was not there I won with horse to and that's what they were already winners. So you already stop either so he can still be that So he don't you while out he can wild out because the the the upper two guys are still in control of the team What if what if he was the star player? What does that team look like now? They were What do they look like if he is the star his personality for the Bulls Shaq is Shaq the best example I mean he was he was out. I don't know about while in it. Wow actually, but he certainly was out in Wow

Right. And how did they do? They repeat it. I just think certain players are just different or build different. Thank you. So Charles Barkley when his envy the first year all day Motherfucker, you don't play basketball. They got down you got a life, too I don't know what you're talking about, you know, you know, they write what you love fool, right? Fuck you. Don't live it. What does that mean? You could go out? He can't play good what I'm saying is I don't understand what you're saying. You said because he went out, he can't play good. Charles Barkley.

His personality is lazy. He's a lazy dude. He was a great dude. Embiid, what is he? He's a great player, but he's what? Lazy. Right? He's great.

Lazy. So now if Embiid goes to Boston and he wins the MVP and win the championship, are we really crediting him? We know who he is. We know what it is. He's going to Boston. Who knows how to play in this? What makes a person lazy?

Tell me what makes him lazy. So who do we credit in then? Because this is not a good time. How do you consider somebody lazy? So who do we So who are we crediting then? Because this is a good time So who do we credit for leaving? Like How do you consider somebody lazy? I do want to hear that definition Or you're lazy

Because it's sounding like sports analysts saying lazy But it's like give me objective Because first in last out Don't mean you good We've seen that too many times War paint, yes sir. Because first in, last out don't mean you good. We've seen that too many times. War paint, yes sir, no sir, yes sir. That don't mean you good.

You putting up a thousand shots, you ain't getting none in the game. So we've seen guys who play more efficiently, effectively. You can lead, you can work all different ways. We've seen that, right?

So why is he lazy? Yeah, why is he lazy? Like, give me the definition of his lazy, not just general lazy. Because his body fat? He's built like that. But what's wrong with him?

Because he can't stay healthy? Because you know some cats work their ass off. Because he built like a. And still can't stay healthy. Well, you're talking about Kawhi. One of the hardest workers. Come on, Kawhi won it. Don't do that.

Kawhi's a hard worker, right? Hard worker. No one's ever called him lazy. Yeah, but I'm saying he's. No one's ever called him lazy. So why is MB lazy? Because he stay hurt? Walk with us.

No, no, no, no. Walk with us. I like that. Walk with us. That's a new one. Walk with us. Has anybody ever said he's lazy? No. Right?

You? So somebody's opinions make you think he's lazy. That's what happens. Labels. I hate the label shit in the NBA. Everybody get labeled all the fucking time. If we practice at 11 o'clock. Oh, he late.

Right? And this person came in at 6. You came in at time. If we practice at 11 o'clock. Oh, he late. Right? And this person came in at 6. You came in at 7. I came in at 9. You came in at 10.45. God damn it. And then we stay after practice.

You stay two hours. You stay an hour and a half. I stay an hour. You leave right after. You don't watch no film. You don't do anything extra. God damn it. You lazy.

That's what lazy is. I get what I need. And I get out there and go for 30, and you go for 2. That you're just more talented. You don't mean shit. If I'm getting what I need, if I know what I need to make me do good in the game, how is that lazy? Because you're more talented than us? So you need the extra work.

You need it. And I know what I need. So how did that make me lazy? Because I don't work out as hard as you do. I work know what I need. So how did that make me lazy? Because I don't work out as hard as you do. I work on what I need. I work smarter. I work smarter, not harder. The same reason Kobe said you're lazy, right? If Kobe says Shaq is lazy, what does that mean?

Shaq didn't like how he worked out. Because I don't like how I don't trust his workout. He ain't putting no extra work. He's not doing what I say so win right same reason the coach calls you lazy, right if everybody's running Everybody's running line drills and there's the one guy he's the best player team and he's sitting there like I ain't got no you That's a little you know you So every start you can't say he lazy cuz he almost came late to practice that don't mean That means you're not punctual maybe or maybe you ain't doing extras my I remember when coach told us he said I don't want y'all To give me 110 percent first of all ain't no such thing He said give me a hundred percent when I asked for it

So that means when you practice practice your ass ass off. And then all y'all doing these extra wind sprints later, didn't even practice hard when we were practicing. So a lot of times cats be handing coats to Apple, like I'm teacher's pet. I'm here for five extra hours. It looks like take your ass home. All you gotta do is do it when you're supposed to do it. But it's still your peers that's calling you. Your peers. So when Maxie called Embiid out, that's his peer. Yeah, he said, you late.

You were late. You were doing, you were supposed to be the best. He didn't say lazy, though. You were the best player on the team, and this is how you. He said late for everything. This is how you're behaving. Yeah. For every single thing. It's a player.

You know who's lazy. You know who's not. You know who's not. You know who's ultra talented. You know who's lazy. You know who's ultra talented. You know when you can see somebody ultra talented and you're like, yo, if you put any effort into this, you ball is out of control. You were late to everything. Every star is damn near late to everything. First of all, I was hurt when I played with you. And he's hurt.

I was hurt when you came. You don't know me. You know me as the hurt player, dog. So that's my opinion. That's my opinion. That's my opinion. What the fuck is we talking about? Thank you. I'm trying to get you to change things. Fuck.

What did you say? Draw that? What I'm saying is. Draw that. That's hurt. That's you, Bill. That's you, Bill. That's my opinion.

Come on, man. There's nobody. I don't care.. That's you, Bill. That's my opinion. Come on, man. There's nobody. I don't care. They can't tell me what I see. If they can't tell me what I see, it's my opinion. I don't care what the whole organization you about to say no. That's it. It's all your opinion.

And that's Maxie. And I'm not the player telling you that. But that's what I'm saying. It's an opinion. It's not real. How is Maxie's opinion real? Because if I bring everybody who came before him, they will be looking at him, what the

fuck are you talking about? But if you bring everybody that was there with me, they'd be like, oh, Nick was right. Before you. So it's two different sides. If you ask Andre Blotch, who was there before you, about my work ethic, what would he say? So your opinion is, so that means your opinion is not

as real. It's just your vision. Nah, don't do that, Gil. No, what is not as real it's just your vision nah don't do that Gil no what I'm saying is it's his vision it's not the reality of it it's his reality my reality don't work it's the slice of the whole reality you don't want to claim that point

what I'm saying is it's an opinion from his version, right? So his version is only starting when he comes. So he don't know. But it's a part of the version, which is all of it. So when you say the whole version of it, there's somebody who heard the whole time. No, if you're not lazy in character and work ethic, then it shouldn't be revealed in adversity. So when you all of a sudden hurt, like Embiid, that's what you're telling me,

that you, like Embiid, all of a sudden got lazy, all of a sudden hurt like Embiid, that's what you're telling me, that you, like Embiid, all of a sudden got lazy, all of a sudden was late, whatever it may be. So if Embiid is doing it and Gil did it, guess what? That just means when you face an adversity, you're the same dude. So what happens if when Ben Simmons says it, or when

Tobias Harris says it, they've been there before he got hurt, or when Jimmy Butler says it, it's, so you're saying you don't have anybody else saying it outside of this scope when you were, so when you do, when you ride high, you ride not when you weren't,

when I'm hurt, I'm done. I'm, but you can be at treatment early treatment. So don't act like late. No, that's what I'm saying is I did this. I if you take the whole thing of me somebody who's there from the beginning To the end they don't have the same opinion his opinion only starts when he got there like that's part of it, right?

So when you asked like if you asked his move his version of the movie when he comes in James Harden when he comes in He misses all the point. He's like the other nigga only had ten points Whoa he had 40 you know, we didn't know you're mr. Brown you making up stuff now Ten points. I said I wanted him to go for no you said you can Psychologically have you accepted the bad parts of your career? Yes. Okay, well, then why are you fighting him? He's just pointing out one of the bad parts. But what is the overall? We're talking about the overall.

He thinks the overall is his version. We know Agent Zero, but there were times you gave Zero effort or something. Yes, but what I'm saying is that's the only version he knows. He don't know three-time All-Star. He don't know three-time. No, he know it. He didn't experience it. And you didn't experience it. Right, right. So, you didn't experience

and be right now, but you know he lazy from somebody else. From the people who's from the beginning to the end. Who said? You heard?

Yes. They told you? Yes. They told you? Yes. All right. Yo, it's like when Kobe. I'm going to say they told me.

It's like when Kobe. Yo, when you played for the Lakers. They told me he worked hard. Who told you? Harrison. But you're lying. I don't know if you're lying.

Shut the fuck up. You want me to take your word for it? What the fuck? Opinion. Opinion. You're just arguing. No. You old cunt.

So they told you. I'm supposed to automatically just believe. Yeah, you act like your opinion's facts. And then our opinion's just facts. It's not opinion. I've talked to Ben Simmons. I've talked to him. And he said he's Dr. Harris. Oh, you act like your opinion's facts. And then our opinion is just facts. It's not opinion. I've talked to Ben Simmons. I've talked to him. And he said he thought it was Harris.

Oh, you can't trust him? So text Harris. It can't be real. Text Harris. You need evidence? Yeah. But if you're going to argue in the court, at least argue being honest. Like, I've talked to Ben Simmons.

I've asked. So you don't think he talked to Ben Simmons? There's a general manager. There's a general manager. There's a general manager. The guy that they kicked off the team, man, you think he gonna say something good about him? It don't matter. You're right.

Did you talk to anybody? That's what we do. I talked to Ben Simmons. But again, you're just saying it just... But did you, dog? That's the problem. Did you? You're throwing out stuff, but you didn't do it.

Hey, Your Honor, I plead the fifth. Okay. Thank you I do I do receive like do you have the receipt or don't you ever see that going to court? Where you ever see that like right? You want to know my receipt from Kevin Durant? About the championship you want to talk to Kevin Durant. I do receipts facts only we do You can play the fifth oh that's only a great play for us to stop Marcel's I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no. No, no.

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