Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To A WILD Weekend In The NBA

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To A WILD Weekend In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew breaks down everything that went down across the association including, Victor Wembanyama's incredible 5x5 scoring line & LeBron James' reaction to the San Antonio Spurs french phenom, the brawl between the Miami Heat & New Orleans Pelicans that left Jimmy Butler with a 1 game suspension, Nikola Jokic's 3 Straight Triple Doubles and Giannis Antetokounmpo COOKING In the 2 games since the all star break. Finally, WNBA Legend Sheryl Swoopes returns to talk Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark and the drama surrounding the "Don't Be A Sheryl" Campaign. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:07:53 Sheryl Reacts To Her Son's Dunk Contest 0:11:29 Should G-League Merge With NBA Dunk Contest? 0:13:41 A-Rod's New "Tan" 0:19:18 Duke Player Hurt During Court Storming 0:21:54 Heat - Pelicans Fight Reaction 0:30:00 Draymond ROASTS Grant Williams 0:36:48 The Unwritten Rules of The NBA 0:44:13 Wemby Drops An Historic 5x5 0:51:38 Gil on Falsehoods of Leadership 1:15:40 Jokic Drops 3 Straight Triple Doubles 1:31:19 Modern NBA Defense Is LAZY 1:34:07 Sheryl Addresses "Don't Be A Sheryl" 2:06:53 Sheryl's Relationship With Angel Resse 2:20:09 Clippers New Look 2:22:45 Cam Newton JUMPED 2:25:37 MostlyFans 2:32:47 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He didn't want to get hit. He was early shooting jumpers. He didn't want to... Original stretch. Original stretch. That's the only thing I could do is shoot decent. So for those who aren't aware, they were trying to pack me up before the show started, as is the case on Mondays

when we haven't seen each other for a few days. But this is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got Gilbert Arenas here with us. The fashion is upgrading, Gil. Every day, you come stylish. Ooh. Watch out.

He has Fian shit over there. Steve knows the wardrobe. They're giving out a little two million over there. Let me go ahead. Ryan Clark over there with the little two million. Let me go ahead and step a game up there. As per your wishes, there are no cakes in the house. All the cakes

have been removed from the premises. We had a little situation. It was somebody's idea. I ain't going to snitch again. I ain't going to say no. Still cake residue on the couch. We got the dream killer, Rashad McCants.

Back in the building with us. That's his name. Still yes, still cake residue on the couch. We got the dream killer Rashad McCants Y'all know He killed people's dreams And the legend Shrill Stoops is back here with us on the couch Yeah. We just going to see that. I'm back. Yeah. Wow. Be a Cheryl. They're trying to back her up. They're trying to back her up too. Unsuccessful. They tried. Unsuccessful. Back you up, huh?

Oh, Cheryl. Oh, Cheryl. Oh, Cheryl. Don't be a Cheryl now. I'm okay for my head. God, thankfully. Now you know how I feel. Now you know how I feel over here.

Now you know how I feel. Yeah. But you know what? I can't sing, but I would say, I'm still standing. You know that song? No. Never mind. To the window!

That's my era. Oh, I'm telling about age then. Okay, never mind. Ladies and gentlemen, another wildly productive day here on Gibbs Arena. It's already starting. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Clippers are moving to a new arena next season and will have a new look.

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wherever you get your podcasts from. I'm appreciating the ISO cam, but I'm bouncing back and forth, getting it, doing it, green light, red light. Shout out to our crew. They felt y'all needed to see more of me. I don't know why, but I'm going to roll with it. So I get your own show. Yeah. You know, you're just going to roll with it. So I get your own cell phone. Yeah.

You know, you're disgusting. He took it his own self. A little bit. I've seen all your guys' ideas flowing. Had to get some going as well. So, Cheryl, you were out in Indy for All-Star Weekend supporting your son, Jordan Jackson, who won the G League Dunk Contest. So we showed it before, but we've got to show it again because you're here.

You do. Let's see. Let's take a look at the video. Okay, okay. We've seen him rocking your comics jersey. Let's go. Doing his thing. Okay. The boost is there.

So how special of a moment was it for you to see him wearing your comics jersey while winning the G League dunk contest? Ah, you trying to make me cry already. It was, it was, no, it was sweet. It was kind of a full circle moment for me. You know, I had my son in 97 when the WNBA first started. So to see him living out his dreams. So growing up, he was like, I'm going to be a professional mascot. That's what he said. You know, some of the mascots don't make bad money now, but instead of being a mascot, he's living his dreams out to be a professional basketball player.

G League with the Maine Celtics and, you know, hopefully NBA someday. But for me to see him live out that dream of participating in All-Star and not just participating, but, like, he did his thing in the Slam Dunk Contest. So I was super proud. You know, big old smile on my face but we see you still going right now. It was uh, it was it was it was nice He was nice. I'm a little biased. He was nice What was your reaction when he told you I want to be a mascot when I grow up?

Well, because I honestly had no idea that some of these mascots make a pretty good living. I was like, um, son, I'm going to support you, but I don't know if that's what you really want to do. But he was like, no, Mom, Toybo. That was the Rockets mascot back then, Turbo. That's what he wanted to do. So I was like, uh. That's okay. Okay.

But, uh, no, we didn't go that route. So how old was he when you said it? Oh, like seven. Yeah. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. Like, but uh, no we didn't go so how old was he when he said it? Oh like seven. Yeah, okay Yeah, like not like 13 Yeah They were fun as he got older that changed from being a mascot in the NBA to playing in the NBA So so people have been very critical the dunk contest Mack McClellan came So people have been very critical of the dunk contest. Mack McClung came from the G League, won his second straight dunk contest. But question for you,

should the G League dunk contest winner get invited to participate in the actual NBA dunk contest? I'm not only saying this because of my son won it. I think so. I think the guys in the G League, right, when they go to NBA All-Star and they're in the G League contest, the dunk contest, like they're hungry. You know what I mean? They want people to look at them. They want to get noticed. So I think they take it a little bit more serious than some of the NBA guys that are like, all right, I want to get in the dunk contest. I think it would make it more competitive. I think it'd make it a little bit more exciting. And since Matt got invited, I think my son needs to get invited next

year. So I'm just putting that out there. I'm putting it out there. Why is there a G League dunk contest when G League is technically part of the NBA? And they have two-way deals, so some of those guys are going back and forth, so it should just be combined. Dunk contest and three-point contest

and skills. It should just be combined. One dunk contest. Dunk contest and three-point contest and skills. It should just be a la carte. A la carte. All in one. I don't know. I mean, because some of those guys get called up. Some of those guys have been NBA players. Because it's a portal, they should just allow the best dunkers to come through.

But then do you have too many people in the contest? Yeah, I'm listen. There's a few we couldn't What do they have for yeah, what happened to the year when he had to eat yeah, we had the elimination yeah, yeah now it's What but is it because guys don't want to do it? Yeah They're ducking. Yeah, it's what Well, but is it because guys don't want to do it? Yeah. They're ducking? Yeah. It's fan appreciation, too. I mean, there's 450 players in the NBA.

But they don't want to do it. You're talking about high-level dunkers, and you're talking about you pick four every year? I mean, for the most part, it's competitive. So all you need is one for me to see who's in. It's like, all right, he's in. I'll be in. That's how NBA players work

That's why you if I look at a list and it's like this person this person this way But that's how it used to be. Yeah, so why did it what changed money? What do you social media? Guys getting paid more money. No, just how much money you're making you don't feel like the need to go do it like yeah I'll show up and wear my nicest outfit. Which adds to my point with the G League guys. Because those guys aren't, my son ain't making that kind of money. So he's like, I would love an opportunity to be in the NBA dunk contest.

The difference is the appreciation of the players that are from the G League that could probably win. The fans don't know them. True. So it's like watching a bunch, the fans don't know them. True. So it's like watching a bunch of guys you don't know. And that's the integration part that needs to be implemented, is trying to get those guys from the G League more visibility so that you're more familiar with them. Even if they're doing highlights in the G League,

sometimes you should bring them up to SportsCenter and allow them to be seen because some of the dunks are dope and crazy. But I think the college dunk contest was better than the NBA dunk contest this year. That shit was a high school dunk contest. That was better than the NBA dunk contest. I mean, but when it comes to visibility, to be honest, when you look at previous dunk contests, no one knows most of these people anyway. For the most part, you have one or two names throughout.

But for the most part, most of or two names throughout but for the most part most of those guys are just upcoming guys anyway um i think a dunk contest is just great dunking right it ain't about the name like you know when gordon did it nobody knew gordon like that he was doing dunk contests put him in another level he's an nba player though like i'm in the nba gordon was what, Arizona? Unfortunately. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of the guys come from something where they had some type of fan base,

some type of namesake. But it's like, if no one has heard of your son, it's like this will be his chance to be recognized now. It's like, oh, y'all remember him from the dunk contest? He came in second, third, or he won. So it's like, it gives him opportunity for visibility. But if we don't know them ahead of time, it's like when you look at the lineup of who the dunkers are, you're like, who are the first five? You're like, we don't know any of these guys, but they might be the best dunkers. You jump from the three-point line,

my mother's going to know who like, because everyone's there anyway, it's an event that people are going to show up. You know, start making a dunk contest like entertainment. It was the same thing with Ice Cube when we was having a discussion. And I said, won't you lower the age group? And the reason is. For what? lower the age group? And the reason For what? For the big three? For the big three. And the reason was the style you want,

the age group you have can't give it to you. Right. They can't give you what you want. So you're talking about having a three on three. There's no highlights. There's no dunking. It's because everyone's old, can't do the same thing you bump it down to an age that still have their legs their dunking ability dribbling skills and

watch the fan base and that's what he he did he bumped the price i mean he bumped the age down now you have younger guys coming and you got guys who still compete to be in the NBA, that's what opens it up versus having a bunch of four-year-olds out there. Get off me, dog. It's the last week of Black History Month, so we got to talk about some recent black history that happened. A-Rod had the internet going nuts Friday after he was spotted sitting courtside with Stephen A. Smith at the Bucks-Wolves game looking a little different.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. So naturally the joke started flying like this one right here. Shout out Jeff Johnson. Got a light-skinned friend. Looked like Alex Rodriguez. Got a dark-skinned friend. Looked like Alex Rodriguez. Regular business. It got so bad, the Timberwolves owner had to drop a video addressing his blackening. All right, everybody.

I know that I'm dark, but I am Dominican, and I went on vacation, and I fell asleep in the sun. So, everybody, calm down. Tranquilito, suavecito. Mi gente. Ya. I'm not black. I don't.

I'm Dominican. You know when you got to address your regular ethnicity. Uh-uh. And tell them I'm not black. I'm not a nigga. Uh-uh. Stop it. Said it's the reverse.

Send me social. I'm not as black as I look. Uh-uh. He wasn't giving a shout out to black history. No, he was Being in blackface, that's it I wasn't in blackface. I was in son. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't eat no watermelon this weekend Wow Right sad. I'm gonna take a sip. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't eat no watermelon this weekend Wow Right sad. I'm gonna take a sip. Mm-hmm When you got a the fin getting the tan, yeah, it's okay guys, it's okay

We did too didn't we I mean you are Alex He's on boats with ladies all day, hmm pretty sure you know We ain't mad at you just we're not mad at you a rob, but now let's talk a little bit about that backyard though It's nice, wasn't it? It looked white, didn't it? It was a white backyard. I was like, ooh, shit. That's nice back there. Shooting all three. His girl didn't get a tan either. She's still white.

What's the point of the tan? Didn't wake him up, did they? Sending a message. She's sitting there. She's sending a message. So now let's talk about one of the biggest moments in college basketball this weekend. After Wake Forest's upset win over Duke, you can see the crowd stormed the court. Fan or two or three made contact with likely ACC Player of the Year Kyle Filipowski.

You see the other Dukies come round around him. They were a little incensed by the incident. It was turnt up. And rightfully so. Had to carry him off the court, believe he suffered an ankle injury. We got another angle of it. Look, look, look. He put his leg out.

That's what he get. He put his leg out. He tried to grace it out. He tried to grace it out Yeah, try to grace it Alan So fast now you North Carolina guys it Are you being biased right now? No? Look you lose on the road to an unranked team First of all they storm in the fucking court. That was a storm. Storming it.

Yeah, that was a good one. So don't lose. That's the most important thing. That was a... They really stormed the court. Oh, because it's really a big deal. Yeah. Yeah. Duke number eight.

Yes. We going to beat... We beat y'all at... Oh, yeah. We storming. Somebody getting pregnant tonight. You know what I'm saying? So they be going crazy. This is a real win out there. So it's like, it's nothing new.

And then John Shire, he know. He know how it go when you lose to anybody in the ACC. And you top. So after the game, John Shire said enough is enough when it comes to court storming. You know, Flip sprains his ankle. When are we going to ban court storming? Like, when are we going to ban that? Like, how many times does a player have to get into something where they get punched

or they get pushed or they get taunted right in their face. And it's a dangerous thing. So this incident comes a little over a month after Kaitlyn Clark and an Ohio State fan collided after OSU upset Iowa. So does the NCAA need to ban court storming? No. Has a player ever got punched? Has a player ever got shoved? Usually they're coming to celebrate as fans. And just like Caitlyn did, she enticed it, trying to do one of those little chucks.

You can see he did the same thing. Somebody's running, he tries to trip, she hurt a little bit. The guy's running by. He's tripping and pushing. Right? So that's what ends up happening. They're trying to just run by you and do what they're celebrating to do.

So the fact that most players, you mad, you lost, and you see someone coming, you're trying to get you a little feel in, and then you want to play victim. So you agree with what you just said? First of all, it's part of it. That's part of the college atmosphere. Yes. I will say, yeah, security, whatever, some kind of way they got to do, I don't know how you do it, a better job of, all right, let the team get off if there's time,

and then let them celebrate. But you can't ban that. And to Rashad's point, Wake beating Duke at home, and Duke is ranked, of course they're going to storm the court. You can't ban that, because then you take away the whole atmosphere of what it means to be a college athlete in moments like that. That's part of the celebration. 100%. Rashad, have you ever got the court,

you ever been on the other side of getting the court storming? Nah, I think we did more of the storming most of the time. How about that? Did anybody get hurt? No, never. It was the best time, though. I remember we beat Duke freshman year at home, and they stormed the court, and it was like a parade, right? But I think the best part about. Like I remember we beat Duke freshman year at home and they stormed the court and it was like a parade

right, but I think the best part about it is you know when they're gonna storm the court because Yeah, the clock is going down. Yeah, you can coach We know they're about to storm the court like even when they inbounded the put the ball They threw a long and he caught it right the coach opposed to know when this muffled goes zero They gonna start yeah, they're going to storm the court. They're coming. Because we just lost at wake. They can't wait to go. So the fact that y'all didn't get the fuck off the court,

you had the chance. Hey guys, come on over here close to the bench. Don't even go out here. Right, you should even be on the floor at that point. Period. Because the game's over. Four point game, you just throw the towel at that point. Yeah, four point game is what? Put the scrubs in. No, if players Four-point game, you just throw the towel. Yeah, four-point game is what? Put the scrubs in. If players actually got hurt because fans were targeting certain stars,

this would have been banned a long time ago. Absolutely. But over the years, you can see when those kids are coming to celebrate, they're coming to celebrate because they team won. You getting your ass whooped is the penalty. I don't need to touch you. You just lost. That's why we're here.

So we don't need to... You're the angry one at this time. You're the angry one who lost, and now you're trying to sit out there and kick someone and didn't realize how fast they were running. Now your ankle hurt. Now you want to sit there and cry and complain, talking about,

he was targeting me When when you did this or before But to the other shit, I'll see my friend It's a lot of that right there. I'm gonna write to him for sure as an opposing player Do you have a right to defend yourself when those situations happen like are all best off, right? You see people storming at you You don't know what their intentions are, but they not They're rushing the court it's on you to get off move out the way

I've seen the other side where fans get being baked as they're running on fans are getting being because the players being aggressive That's what I'm saying like national championship games and this and football and all you don't see Fans going after players. Yeah, like I highly doubt the fans were like, oh, let's go get him period. Yeah We just beat him and now we want to hit him Here you know, we're just trying to go celebrate. We haven't even seen play. We haven't even seen fans taunting a player No, we haven't even seen that you're coming in and fans are doing that. They just want to sit there and jump around. That's where you get to really see the love for the university.

It's through the fans storming the court. That's where you get to see the fan appreciation. We won. Our fans are here. They showing the world, like, look, we here to watch every game. We turned up. When we get a good win like that, it's supposed to celebrate.

It's memories for them. Think about the fan memories. They get to go out there and touch that player that they see on campus all the time. And it's like, oh, God, and I'm holding them up. We healed them up. And all that shit, man, that shit is, that's what created the legendary, like, feel of college sports. Like, that's why I hold dear to that, because I knew what those moments was in college sports. Like that's why I hold dear to that because I knew what those moments was in college sports. It's like, yo, when I stood up there and I did this and I look at all my peers, I'm like, yeah,

I'm God tier up here. Like that's what it is. So don't lose when you on the road to a bad team. Don't lose. If you win, you don't got to worry about it. Did y'all ever storm courts? I think we beat y'all in the storm. Damn.

Damn, Gil. Did y'all ever storm courts? I think we beat y'all if they stormed. Damn. Damn, Gil. That's not bragging though. We didn't punch nobody. He wasn't about that. And our fans weren't either. They were way too intelligent. Gil's sophomore year, I think you had 32. 32 in the second half overtime.

32 in the second half. I was 32 in the second half so that was all right I was getting busy what you doing the first half not enough zero first half so one of our players started talking a little too much and we're just cracking up in the second half he's just cooking this like but we ended up offense wasn't for me so you know I'm and then from there I know how to get this ball god damn it it wasn't about winning it cuz we was probably winning a half close game it was cool I mean what's OT oh that's a 32 come for all TV yeah yeah I think you are number one in nation at that point or close yeah but our fans way too

intelligent UCLA not that they're not really throwing hands you're number one in the nation at that point or close. Yeah, but our fans way too intelligent UCLA Not that they're not really throwing hands or doing Not about that. But speaking of throwing hands the NBA returned from the all-star break last week and emotions were running high We got a few different scuffles. We got to address but let's start with the heat Pelicans game Friday night so early in the fourth quarter Zion stole the ball from Jimmy. Went up for a bucket. K-Love kind of hits him with the intentional foul.

Looked like he tried to grab him, but Zion fell awkward. Najee Marshall. Jimmy Butler got into it. May or may not have been choked. Benches started clearing. Coaches got off as well. So. They did call a foul.- They did call a foul. This is what happens.

They literally did call a foul. It seemed to calm down for a second. But then Jose Alvarado. Look at him, look at him at the scores table. Yeah, they're getting into it. Thomas Bryant, Jose Alvarado, the score came in front of your screen. Watch Alvarado though. Big man versus little man.

What's happening? I missed all of that. Is that a coach? JTA. Who was that? Little Alvarado and Thomas Bryant. He's playing step. Alvarado. Thomas Bryant got into it. I think at one point a fan in a CJ McCollum jersey actually threw something at both the players too. We got another look at it. Okay, well, he called the foul. I think he just let him go. I don't know.

He tried to wrap me. It didn't look malicious from Caleb. It's the other teammate running over. He made it, man. That's that. But then Jimmy Butler, like I said, Najee Marshall. Got into a little choker. The league handed down several suspensions in the aftermath. Butler and Marshall each got one game.

Bryan and Alvarado each got three games. You see that right there at the bottom of your screen. Three games for leaving the bench and fighting. He's trying to get up on the co-workers table. And Nikola Jovic... Forgot he was little. Got one game for leaving the bench. Jump!

He jumped. So after the game, Zion said, I wasn't tripping about Caleb because he actually protected me on my fall. Before this worked, Jimmy Buckets doesn't seem to be too concerned about the suspension. He posted this photo on IG.

Blaming Jovich Bad boys bad boys. What you gonna do? Any posted a video of toothpick from don't be a menace I don't know if you guys familiar with that that film that take me to jail scene Appropriate edit point on the video Don't wait the key where I got a little too crazy. Got all my friends in there. I don't know, Jimmy.

So did the Pelicans do too much or were they just trying to defend their teammate? Did they do too much? Who? Which ones? Marshall. That's normal. It is, but it... Who? Which ones? Marshall. Uh... That's normal.

It is, but it... Is he the one that grabbed Jimmy by the throat? Yeah. After Jimmy pushed him twice. But first of all, you shouldn't be running... Go to your teammate. Don't go to... Jimmy Butler. No, no, no. So he went to Kevin. He tried to move Kevin Love

away from Muscle Name, and Jimmy pushed him. But why was he trying to move Kevin? Because Kevin was already cool with not helping him up. No, no, he wasn't. Kevin actually was trying to help him up. He went over and pushed. He went over and pushed Kevin. And then Jimmy pushed him.

Yep. So, because why are you pushing Kevin? Jimmy, why are you pushing me? He pushed Kevin. He pushed Kevin, so Jimmy's like, no, don't do that. So then he grabbed Jimmy by the throat. Yeah. Cheryl, we had this conversation about the choking.

The choking of Rudy Gobert. The choking of Rudy when he was in there trying to mediate, and then he got choked for no reason. Just trying to mediate. No, that's what I'm saying. Just trying to mediate and he got choked for no reason But it works this it works this way too That's what is up happening. He should not have pushed Kevin. Yeah, I'm gonna push Kevin and then you shouldn't push me Yes, you shouldn't have pushed Kevin. Uh-huh. Let Kevin deal with that Kevin and Zion deal with it. Yes. Yes. That's why I said be a trickle effect. I'm here you push me. Hold on So your question was did the Pelicans do too much yes, yes after yeah, yeah

It was too much for- And especially when Zion says, we were cool. Yeah. Me and Kevin were cool. So I don't really know why everybody else got involved. You have to go off of the player, right? You know, Zion was fine.

He got up, he's walking it off, and everybody else is- And that's what we were saying about the Rudy thing, because it was Clay and McDaniels, I believe. Yeah. And it was like, they had their own thing and then here comes Draymond.

But Draymond did exactly what... No. Rudy did exactly what... Marshall. Marshall did. And Jimmy was... Jimmy was Draymond. Jimmy was the Draymond Green in this one. Yeah. Then there's the other two niggas at the scores table

just want to fight just because. That was the sideline. That was the sideline, so. How many suspensions? Several, Gil. Let me rehash those for you. So Butler and Marshall each got one game. Thomas Bryant and Alvarado each got three games for leaving the bench and fighting.

Oh, hell no. For leaving the bench. And fighting. So you left the bench, and then y'all got into it. Yeah. They threw hands. They did. There's some head throwing.

They threw hands. And you're not supposed to leave the bench. Man, everybody's squabbling around here, huh? You get automatic one game. For leaving the bench. Automatic. As long as you touch the floor. No, wait. I thought as long as you touch there. They both was at the middle

Yeah, did he get it? Did he touch the floor though? I think I think they stayed has the I think they started their line They might just like oh, yeah I thought it was on the court You'd long as your foot don't too cuz you remember someone got suspended cuz yeah, it's a good I remember that's the line Like blue just a little toe Wow Wow, how's your They had a rule they had a rule back in man, yeah The Knicks they lost anyway, it going to lose anyway. Damn Knicks.

He's bad over there. You know, Steve is New York, New York. I'm like, Steve got bad. He reliving all of that. Man, get Pat on board. Can you make the New York sound just real quick? There we go. The chat be like, who the hell is this nigga in the back?

It'd be Ad-Lib. A New Yorker. A New Yorker. Ad-Lib crazy. So let's keep this thing moving. talk about another fight that needs to be addressed Heated Pelicans weren't the only team going at it things got heated during the Hornets Warriors game Friday night So in the final moments of the game with the Dubs up 11 nice block shot clock winding down Lester quinones took an easy bucket and miles Bridges wasn't feeling it. Quinones, Quinones. I was gonna say Quinones but you know I'm a

frenetic type of person. But things got turnt up in this as well. Miles Bridges took exception to Quinones' bucket. Grant Williams came in talking a little too much trying to support his new Hornets teammates. Draymond Green, who was on the bench, wasn't particularly fond of it. Steve Kerr, Steve Clifford have no idea what's going on. Steve Kerr talking about that. If you can read lips. I read lips real good. B-A-N is the abbreviation for what Draymond had to say to Grant Williams.

Steve Kerr has no idea what's going on either. So after the game, Draymond Green broke down the situation and took a shot at Grant Williams. Yeah, I don't really understand why people get so mad at somebody scoring at the end of the game. It's like this dumb, unofficial, unwritten rule that everybody get mad. If y'all were winning by 13 points, would you get mad if he laid a ball up? I doubt it. And so it's kind of like a sore loser type thing. But Grant Williams got to stop it, man. He can't keep... Being this tough guy is going absolutely wrong for him.

Like he's a really nice guy. And for some reason, he keeps like trying to jump on the unlikable side. And I must tell you, it's not always fun over here. It's not always a good time. Yeah, Trey. He's honest about it. He is honest. Because, boy, I mean, talking too much kind of got you out of Dallas.

Like, overdoing it. And you're over there talking too much now. So you might want to slow down and stop all the tough guy stuff. Oh. Rashad, you had a reaction to Draymond's comments. Let's start there. How do you... All right.

Are you rolling or not? It seems like he watches Guilds Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We've had this discussion before. Whoop, whoop, whoop. I mean, stop all the tough guy stuff, right? I figured he'd probably take them under his wing or something. Try to mentor them into how to be a good tough guy. A better tough guy.

Right? Because that's what you are, Draymond. You're the tough guy. I don't understand the contradiction. Like, we need more tough guys. No, he's saying Grant Williams is not one. Right. No, but he's not one either.

So it's like, what does that mean? A body in the NBA is a tough guy. No, what I'm saying is he's been the same way since high school. Grant Williams, that wasn't his game. They mind he was a role player since high school. It didn't mean he was a tough guy. A role player enforcer. Yeah, but you don't mean he was a tough guy.

Everybody needs a guy to talk shit on your team. You need at least one. Charlotte didn't have that. Dallas don't like that. They never liked that. Dallas don't like- But he was never that. But he is.

Like Dylan Brooks. But he's trying to be. But I'm saying, is Dylan Brooks is that, right? He's not. So that makes sense. It's not, though. You guys are not tough guys. No, it's not about tough.

That's his demeanor. That's how he plays the game. Grant Williams is a quiet dude who never did anything, and he's trying to take on a persona that- In Boston, he was not about tough. That's his demeanor. That's he plays game Grand Williams is a quiet dude who never did anything and he's trying to take on a persona that in Boston He was there tough guy you in Boston. He was there. He was second to Marcus Marcus Marcus to him We got a piece I've never heard that dude talk But it ain't about talking if you just out there garden of you just know how they do you do you being that? No, I thought he just said you talk too much. Oh because he didn't like what he was saying

Oh, you know when Draymond don't like what you're saying, it's like, well, who you talking to? I'm talking to you, Dray. I'm not talking to everybody else. You don't like what I'm saying to you. Just like nobody else like what you be saying to them. So it's like, God damn, man, he's up on all me. First of all, you just, you got mad because he shot a layup at the end of the game. That's what started all of it.

So, was Lester Quinonez, did I say it correct? All right. In the wrong for taking the easy bucket with the game decided. Shot clock was winding down. I don't have a problem with it. Stop it if you don't want him to score, but... I don't have a problem with it. First of all, I don't even know who he is.

Binge player. So, he probably doesn't play a lot. So he's in the game. He's like, let me get two points. Yeah, let me get my bucket. Free bucket. It's a free bucket, dude. And like Draymond pointed out, I think, later in that soundbite,

what's he supposed to do, just take the turnover? It's the easy layup. I'm going to take the layup. Yeah. You're only up 11. I want to be in the positive, not the negative, so I ain't going to take the turnover. I've always had an issue with why players get mad right um there's I've been on the bench all game and I'm coming in it's 0-0 I got a play

into the it ends yeah you guys had a chance to play mean meaningful basketball yeah this is my meaningful basketball time so you know what you got going on has no bearing on me right I had to play defense before we got this ball before I got it I had to guard somebody right it's not like somebody got a fucking violation because they didn't score I mean they didn't shoot the ball someone shot the ball and guess who shot it? Grant Williams. So Grant Williams shot him a three,

trying to get him some three points to come down here and get mad because I want to score. No, I just played defense, and I'm going to score. Now, when I score, now you got the ball again. Now you do what you want with it. But don't shoot and make me play defense and then say, oh, you can't score. Oh, fuck you. Here are my two points. And it's different every fight's different if easy to to and you want to follow me in and a file

Technical and two more free dough now. I got fucking five. Thank you. Yeah If they up 25 I look better than two I will say I know Go ahead and found me trying to be beat I'll get fucked by none that if they have 25 30 I mean, it's a different field. Am I right, though? They call it technicals? I'm the one that's, hey, ref, we get to shoot free throws, right?

For sure. OK, let's shoot these free throws. Need those. Now we up 15, fuckers. Yeah, man. And he blocked the shot, didn't he? No. Miles blocked it.

No, I think it went in. He scored a layup four lab miles bridges was upset after that he tried to block it That's what he tried to block. Yeah, I tried yeah, just miss my play better The curse the clifford we're doing their depth up with about 11 seconds to go one of the funny part to me They both look over like what? The bad problem with that is nobody got no free throws. Because the game was over. Get my free throws. Get my free throws, get my points, bruh.

Quinones and Grant Williams both got ejected. I'm three for three on Quinones. Not bad. Two way point, right? They both got ejected. No, he's been playing a little bit more. Was that not the end of the game? No, it was 12 seconds left.

It was like 11, 12 seconds left when it happened. Oh, okay. So they got sented. Was that not the end of the game? No, it was 12 seconds left. It was like 11, 12 seconds when it happened. So they got sent home. So we talk about unwritten rules and regulations a lot in the game of basketball. But I want to know what unwritten basketball rules

and regulations you actually adhere to. Do you believe in any deal or is it just... It's unwritten. What is unwritten rule? Oh, yeah, I mean, the only unwritten rule... Okay, yeah, yeah. There's a few of them.

The one that I kind of go with is if you got traded or you left a team that you had a problem with, when we go back there, plays come to you. Okay. You know, like... Or you're going back home, this is where you're from, right? We'll let you rock. Yeah, we're gonna let you rock a little bit.

Your local work may be at the game. 100%. Okay, understandable. I think that open layup, like if you've got a fast break, and I'm like, I got a dunk that you know I'm about to go up for, guys like to run under guys. I think that's an unwritten type of like, it's either it's going to be type of like, it's either,

it's going to be a foul that you can get to and I can foul you before you get up. But if I'm in the air and you know I'm about to dunk that shit and you on some like play dirty, like try to take me out while I'm in the air, that's a no-no. As soon as I land, I'm getting back up.

I'm like, yeah, that's a problem. You tried to hurt me. I think everybody feels that way if you on your fast break type shit. If a guy got a chance and you know it, you can feel it. You can feel he got a chance. He can get this. But if you know he don't and he undercut you or something like that, I've seen too many people get hurt.

And if you know there's no way you're going to block it, right? Like just let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Two points. So, Cheryl, what unwritten basketball rules do you actually believe in or adhere to i mean besides that one i don't why are you making that face i don't know like i can't i can't think of any

are there any off-court unwritten rules that you guys believe in? Off-court? Just don't talk to my work. Respect the work? Yeah. Or your girl. Work. I just said, what did you say?

Don't talk to my work. Oh. How many work? Male and female work. Any of the... Oh are you one of them? Now I'm do wait a minute. No you want to those? No, just my work you talk to it. My work is looking at you and trying to talk to you is different But don't come at my work know what I'm saying is how many work like oh

Like so if you got 20, 21. Oh, that's all my work. How many franchise tags? That's what I'm saying. You can't come at my work. If my work coming at you, it's free game. But you're thirsty if you're coming at my work. And I know you like my work. We're looking. I pick my work here.

And I'm like, yeah, I know it's nice. I see you looking. I see you looking. Looking ass nigga. Is she looking back? Is she looking back? I'm giving you the I see you looking. Looking ass nigga. Is she looking back? Is she looking back? I'm giving you the okay. Go ahead. Go ahead player. Looking at the, I mean

That's I mean that's the deal. After the game like you said, like you said after the game we after the game We know I'm just saying like usually was like. Did you say look or talk? Main or main or ours was main your main. That's do you know that's awful? Yeah, that's what that's that's a hundred percent off-limits, but he done added he done added anybody He told no no just thought I work is my work. You know, I'm with my work is my work Don't come at my work You can look all you want. Okay, the work is reckless eyeballing then you free game. It's a free game I'm just like the clerk, you know, I'm a written rules regulation. Yeah, you got all problem. That might just be my rule

Disagree with The work criteria, but that's his rule But do you respect it? I mean if it's his rule you got to respect so you saying I could come out At the work my work. I got to respect it. So you're saying I can come at the work? My work? I don't give a fuck about no work. Oh. Like I said, girls, your main girl and your girl, they was off limits. Work?

That's my teammates. Boy, you say, hey, room to room. She working tonight, fellas. Sorry. I should have said earmuffs. I should have. Why you think my rookies love me, man? Just saying. Work comes in all shapes, sizes, and genders.

Work comes in all shapes, sizes, and genders. Work comes in all shapes, sizes, and genders. Work for hire. So back to the Draymond making the comments, specifically calling out Grant Williams. Grant is a member of the MBPA, one of seven vice presidents. Come again? He's one of the seven vice presidents on the MBPA.

MBPA, so those are the guys who, like, when there's a lockout... He's on the panel. They're getting jobs. But is Draymond wrong for clowning Graham Williams like that Why do I care because This is good. So you have no no, I'm just Great Williams. I mean, what do we? See now You called him Greg for a long time good Gil, so I'm just really happy to see you. I didn't know his name. I'm just happy to see you. Look, I didn't know his name. I didn't know his name.

But now we've met in step. The guy who set pick for Lucas. I mean, he's like, yeah, I tried to say his name. Before it could have just, the dude who set the screens. The light-skinned dude that set the screens for the Lucas. Oh my god, boy, you should do that. No, the dude that tried to guard Jokic and kept hitting his elbow because he was too little.

That guy. That guy. That guy. Oh. Hey That guy. We made progress. You were calling him Greg Williams, now you're calling him Greg Williams, his government name. That is a step in the right direction. How long did you call that boy Greg? We keep a running track, Gil.

He got about seven different names. He called different seven different names. He called different people yeah different things. But you know we work with him long enough to know exactly who he's talking about. So Cher do you feel like Draymond was out of line talking about Grand Wings like that or the game is the game in situations like that? I don't... I told you man, Grant got a chill man. No, Oh, Grant, Grant. I don't... I don't... You relax. I... Okay.

That's okay. You know, I'm just... Well, and I'm like that because, like, people are always coming for Dre. Mm-hmm. I mean, so Dre is Dre. He's gonna come back.

Yeah. I think the best part of that clip, though, is Grant walked over to the Warriors bench trying to explain himself, and Draymond just like, you're not getting no sympathy over here. We don't rock with you.

Go to your bench. Stay on your side. And Steve Kerr looking at him like, I don't care what you're talking about. All right, well, that is our fight discussion here on Guilds Arena presented by $100 Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code Guild. I'll match your first deposit up to $100.

Let's talk about... So it Greg or grant grant? Do you write the check was Greg Williams? I Just made that up. No, there's a there's a few is there a Greg in NBA or that just one I probably is a Greg Williams somewhere or is that just in the world in the world as 80 names Is that bounty good Gate? Is that Bounty Gate? There is a Bounty Gate, Greg Williams. I don't know who Greg Williams is. With the S curl.

I don't get it. I just made that up. Yes, you did. You are plugged into the sports scene. Yes, you did. All right, so let's talk about other things going on around the world of basketball. Spurs pulled up to L.A. Friday for their final meeting of the season with the Lakers. And Wimby made a little history. So he pulled up to LA Friday for their final meeting of the season with the Lakers. And Wimby made a little

history. So he put up 27 points, 10 rebounds, 8 assists, 5 blocks, and 5 steals to become the youngest player ever to drop a 5x5. Wimby nearly accomplished the 5x5 feat against the Kings on Thursday but was an assist short.

And he was cooking. I'm going to play like what? 20, 29, 30 minutes. But he was doing his thing. Buckets in the 80s. He's. Yeah. I was at the game.

It was nice to see the Lakers get a win. He tried to reverse that. With the first 5 by 5 game in the NBA since Yusef Nurkic January 1st of 2019 So like I said first five by five against the 2019 do you guys get five by one? points rebounds assist block steals Do you actually I thought you're about the hey good is actually impressive impressive that is good I said, I mean only a big man can do something like that

So I mean, only a big man can do something like that. So, I mean. That's very impressive. So before Nurkic, who was that person? Let's pull it up. Ladies and gentlemen, we are live on the floor. I'm sorry. I think Draymond had one in 2016.

That makes sense. Mm-hmm. Let's pull up the list. I'm pretty sure. Shout out to our- AK? AK might have had one. Andre?

Yeah, Nurkis. Anthony Davis had one 2018. Draymond, Batum had one, Kirilenko. Kirilenko, okay. Marcus Camby, Kirilenko. Camby, Kirilenko. Kirilenko had a few. Jamal Tinsley had one.

Oh, now that's impressive. For five bucks. 2001. Damn. Now that's impressive. But you said Batum also? Yeah. Marcus can be Carol Ingo's and your liquor had a few Jamal Tinsley had one out of five bucks 2001 Damn now that's impressive. You said but to muscle. Yeah, but to Tensie had a Portland platoon 12 points 9 rebounds 15 assists It was killing it all right Your favorite big man Akeem Olajuwon I mean, this is a big that makes sense. I have a David Robinson Derek Coleman Derek Coleman DC

George garbage, okay nigga we got it We're going Don't go that far back So after the game LeBron had high praise for the Spurs Ricky He doesn't have a city He doesn't have a city Whatever he wants to do his career He seems like he enjoys the game and seems like he puts the word just from the outside looking in

I'm something with him our day-to-day basis book Said it all times about time ago how special he was and it's not that simple. So as far as your questions have it, you just got guys in our league that you have to account for anytime you get around the rim or around the perimeter in our league history, he sits right at the top of it. If not, you know, around the top of it all the days. Do you remember feeling that somebody was this good this fast since you got into the league? Yeah. Zion, Luka, Kyrie, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Tyreek Evans, a lot of guys. It's been a lot of guys who've been great this month.

You just set the bar very high, so I'm wondering. He's one of them. He's one of them to have a stellar rookie season. Guys have come in, but can you sustain it? We've had guys that come in and just be really damn good. I think the one thing that Wimby has above all the guys that I kind of name is you see his length.

You see how tall he is and his length. You know, the guy next to me possesses a lot of length and he's like, even more than 80. So that's what makes it a little bit different, but let's not get it twisted. He's not the he's special. He's not the first guy to make an impact in this league as a rookie LeBron keeping it real Shaw you still a Spurs fan? Hmm, you still a Spurs fan? No, he's a Wimby fan. Thank you. Wimby, my fault.

You happy trying to pack me up, man? No, no. Catch Wimby fan. Thank you. Wimby, my phone. You trying to pack me up? No. Catch me up, huh? So what do y'all see from Wimby now, and where do you see him in the next few years? I mean, you can tell he's going to be special. I mean, because there's things he can do that's going to impact the game besides scoring.

You know, blocking. I mean, I'm pretty sure he's going to be runner-up or winning defensive player of the year this year. It has nothing to do with your record. It's, you know, your impact as the defender, and he's showing that he is an elite defender as a rookie. Now, the scoring, you know, once he started to get into his own, you know the shit

He tries as a rookie is insane. So Imagine, you know by his third year what he's gonna be actually out there doing so he has a very high ceiling Sure, what do you say from Wimby this year and where do you think he can go? I mean, he's crazy talented. And to Gil's point, when you look at just a rookie being able to do some of the things he's doing and the impact that he's making, not just with the Spurs, but over the league. And to LeBron's point, no, he's not the first rookie to come in and be this good and dominate. But I think his size, his length, and the fact that he can do so many different things at such a young age as a rookie, I think his ceiling is unlimited.

To LeBron's point, I don't think he has one. But for me, my question would be, and y'all would know this better than I do, like his basketball IQ, right? Like I think absolutely your talent can take you to places that other people can't go. But I think if you add your basketball IQ in with your talent, to me, that could also determine just how great he can be. Yeah. It seems to be super knowledgeable high iq so we used to get on we still do his teammates for not passing the rock but i was at that game friday and as i'm watching i think the thing with them they're so cautious with them especially know that the season is basically cooked they don't have any shot of making a play off trying to protect him so there are a lot of opportunity he has to get lobbed toward the

basket they don't throw and i think about him like yeah, I don't want him jumping up and you know landing in traffic And potentially injuring himself. He's playing like about 29 minutes a game. I Think when you when you watch him play, it's it's easy to forget that he's just a rookie You know Yeah You know? Yeah. A resident Wimby fan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the most part, I think with a certain level of talent comes IQ. Because you have to have a know about what you're doing with that talent.

Like, I think that Ja Morant has a certain level of IQ to be able to do the things he does. Luka has a certain level of IQ to do the things he does. But Wimby, to be able to try certain things out there, to be able to convert from playing international to coming over here to play NBA ball, there's a certain type of IQ you got to have. To be able to shoot the jumper at that size, soft touch, be able to shoot free throws. Like when Yao Ming came over, he had a certain level of IQ that converted over to allow him to not just be 7'6", to be able to have a soft touch, be able to go left hand, right hand. And I think that with him, over time, it's just going to be repetition. And that's going to come with work ethic.

Being able to say, I'm going to be in the gym, and I'm not just out here shooting a thousand shots. And I think for me personally, I got back in the gym and understood the difference between getting in the gym, shooting shots, and making shots. And the repetition is going to come for him being able to the next three, four years convert being able to go 10 for 15 compared to 10 for 20. And being able to play 35 minutes and convert that over to efficiency instead of just coming in and saying oh you have potential and talent

converting that to professionalism going in and saying i'm gonna be repetitive with my talent and my iq and put it together sure i think the thing with wimby i mean obviously he's always going to be compared to david robinson tim dun, but a lot of people don't realize David Robinson was 24 his rookie year, did two years in the Navy. Tim Duncan, I want to say was 22 his rookie year. Wimby started at 19, I think turned 20 in January. So you look at the stats. That's crazy.

They were playing way more minutes and he's putting up similar numbers leading the league in blocks so it feels like he's got I mean just like LeBron says no ceiling hey I think I'm gonna start selling my DNA what I look I'm watching LeBron right and he's talking and I'm looking like man he's old right here's gray beers gray He got great chest hair right and I'm like four years older and I don't even got no grades yet like that I'm like, I need you know, I mean if you wanna If you want to look 20 when you're 40 you need you need you need me what I'm just saying

He 31 got grateful ahead 31 And I'm just saying, look, he 31, got gray filet. Because you stressed me out, dude. He 31, that's it. He's 31. Gray filet. Over here, grayed up. And I'm like, man, I'm laughing. My barber moved. I normally don't let my hair get this unkempt.

That's what I said. But you stressed me out. That's why. I'm lucky. I'm about to. Don't worry about that. Gray looks good on you. I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black looks great on me. It's just. Like, I remember there was a point in time where I seen, I think, a Coutinho had the great beard. I was like, I can't wait to get that. And my dad was like, I mean, I don't even have that yet. So maybe when you're 70, you're like, damn. Damn.

Then you think about it. 42. I know, right? God, no way. He's Cuban, though. He ain't. I ain't so no. His real name is Hippolyto. His real name is Hippolyto.

He's not from here. He's from another place. He came over on the boat. In the chat, $10,000 a pop. Get a little blood sample. Wow. If you sell your blood,

it has to be the blood that keep me young. I don't know. I'm just sitting there looking like And he really look all right He really 39 did he look all to you in that clip because of the grays yeah, he got the grays. Yeah, he looked yeah He got a cat hair. He doesn't you call it a cat hair when it's like real thin up there Look like this. I think his hair You know Trae Young Trae Young got here early

And look at here. Yeah special offer for you today If you download the underdog fantasy abuse promo code Gil Gil will send you a vial of his blood I'm sorry. That was the ADHD that kicked in. I'm just like, that ain't got a lot of gravy. That's it. You might as well paint that, young fella. Mocha Brown. I got to get that Mocha Brown just for men. Another productive day here at Guzz Arena.

Thank you. As everybody did our fancy woo-woo. But like LeBron mentioned, there have been plenty of great rookies throughout NBA history, but how hard is it to sustain greatness in the league? I guess that's what makes them great, right? You know, that year after year, they find ways to keep getting better, keep pushing their talents and limits.

And, you know, for someone that was trying to get to, you know, that point before I got hurt, it's a lonely road. It's lonely when you're trying to take it to that next level. You have to really look at some of the greats out there. They don't have friends. They're not out here trying to party and stuff. They're sitting there, focused on their craft, trying to improve their craft. You know, they're not living in real time, right? Most of the things they're doing is just so robotic that, you know,

you can show Jordan or any of these greats some highlights. You know, Brady, you can show him some highlights and take him off of it, and he probably won't even recognize he did that, right? How many highlights have you looked and said, yeah, that was me. I did that. No, it's true. It's true. It is.

It's hard. I think when you are wanting to be the greatest and wanting to be the best, like every day, every year, you have to be committed to that, right? So your friends or whoever that are over here doing whatever it is they do in the off season, your off season looks a little different, you know, if that's what you want to do. It's absolutely doable, but at the same time, you have to realize there are other people who are trying to be better than you. I know for me, every season, it was always about what can I do to get better? I was never okay with just being good or great. I wanted to be the best. And whatever it took for me to do that and make sure that that was going to happen,

that's what I did. So the sacrifices that you make and, you know, yeah, you got to take time for yourself because you got to focus on you. But there's stuff that other people are doing that you're just like, no, I got to sit this one out because this is my goal.

This is what I'm trying to do. Do you feel like that's something you were born with, or did that develop over time? Like, when would you say, like, at what age were you like, oh, I can be great, I can be one of the greatest to ever do this? I don't think I was born with it, but it was kind of instilled in me, right? For me, I mean, I started playing ball at the age of seven.

And it's crazy, because I knew at a very young age that, like, God had kind of blessed me with something that not a lot of people had. But in knowing that, it was hard, right, growing up as a kid. And you're like, I want to do what everybody else is doing, but I also want to be great. And so hearing my mom tell me, you can do it. You can do whatever it is you want to do,

but you got to make sacrifices. You got to do this. You got to do that. So just over time, it was mental for me, and it just became a thing where I was like, this is my goal. This is my focus,

and nobody's going to get in my way and stop it, including thing where I was like, this is my goal, this is my focus, and nobody's going to get in my way and stop it, including myself. I got a question. When it came down to your first MVP and you went into that next summer, does greatness apply comparison to your peers and the other people, your opposition, your other opponents?

Like when you're going into that summer, you're like, all right, I got to get better than last year, but who is going to be my comparison? Who am I going to say, all right, I know this person is going to go in the lab and try to beat me out. Absolutely. Right. How do I come back this next summer knowing that I need to be better than her, her, and her. And I think a lot of us get away from the comparisons because we just lock ourselves in the lab and say, let's just work on my stuff to get better than it was last year. But like you said,

there's someone out there trying to beat me out. Are you comparing yourself to that person? You know what I think made, like I look at the comments, right? What I think what made us so good was, so like for me, it was like Coop, right? Because I know the work Coop put in. I know what she did.

And so a lot of people say your toughest competition is yourself, right? Which, yeah, but also there are some others that I'm like, I can't let Coop outwork me. I can't let Tina outwork me. I can't let Lisa outwork me. Like there were a handful of players that I was like, I know what she's going to be doing in the off season. So yes, I got to get better. Not only do I have to get better than my competition, I got to be better than my teammates. Cause I know what Coop is going to bring. I know what Tina's going to bring. I know what Janeth Arkay's going to bring. So I have to be better so that when it's time for the season to start, like, we battled each other in practice.

Our practices against each other was tougher than the competition that we were playing. And that, for me, is what made me, like, really stay focused and grind and say, also because I didn't want to let my teammates down. Right. So when you win, not just MVP, but you win that first championship, you're like, all right, everybody's coming for us next year. How do I get better? Because if I get better, I know Coop is, Tina is, Jeanette is. And so it's going to be harder for other people to come back and beat us next year. So like four years in a row, to win four championships in a row, I don't care who it is, what sport it is. Like that's hard to do.

But we all stayed focused on, nah, today ain't going to be your day. So my second question to that is, how important is it to your greatness to make your teammates better? Outside of the individuality of saying, I know what I got to do to make myself better. When I show up to camp, I know that I'm going to be in the best shape. For sure. My shot's going to be better. I'm going to be sharp. But the leadership quality

of greatness comes with how do I pick up my teammates and help them realize that, hey, look, by example, I'm here to show you that I'm in, why are you not? I need to hold you accountable as I'm holding myself accountable. Like how important is that part? I think, I think people forget about that part. Like I know people are always throwing around the whole term gold and all of that. Like that term is so overused to me. But anyway, to me, if you're going to be great or one of the greatest, you have to be able to do that. You have to be able to not only make yourself better, right, but those around you better. And, you know, we had, we didn't even talk about, like, who's the leader of this team.

Right. But everybody knew. Do you know what I mean? Like, in some situations, like, Coop was that leader. In other situations, it was me. In other situations, it was Tina. But it was never we came into the season and we were like, well, she's the leader. Like, we just knew.

And so, but I've always felt like in order to be great or to be called the greatest or one of the greatest, you have to be able to elevate your teammates and make your teammates better in whatever that looks like. And I felt like all three of us in our own way, not only were we able to make our teammates better that came off the bench or didn't play as much, but we also made each other better. Going against each other every day and just respecting each other every day, like we made each other better every single day. And I've said this before, I don't know if I would have been as good as I was

if I didn't have those teammates around me. Right, because they pushed you. Every single day. Yeah. Every single day. And that's the competitive spirit. And they pushed me and they also held me me. Right. Because they pushed you. Every single day. Yeah. Every single day. And that's the competitive spirit. And they pushed me and they also held me accountable.

Yeah. Right? And I always say, if you have, Coop is going to show up early. I'm going to show up early. We're going to stay late. So if you're looking at players

who are role players or players that don't play as much and you're showing up late or you're leaving early, it's like, oh no, we don't play as much, and you're showing up late, or you're leaving early, it's like, oh, no, we don't do that. So lots of times you don't even have to talk about it. Like, they see it, and it's like, oh, okay, this is what the culture is that we have here.

Right, and that's the decision that other players make when you see the leaders doing what the leaders do and you decide to leave early, like the leaders are not going to go say something to you like, hey, come on, young fella. We just know. They just know like, hey, you ain't ready

for this type of level. Like we leveling up over here. This is super saying shit over here and you deciding to go home early where you got better priorities. And I think the young generation need to understand that dynamic, even from the older generation. It takes more than just saying you're great. It takes more than just saying that I'm, I'm, I'm. It's what can we do as a team collectively and what can I do to show the

team that we are one. Absolutely. So I've always harped on that can I do to show the team that we are one? Absolutely. So I've always harped on that, and I wanted to know your perspective on that. Yeah. I guess for me, how much is that on young players to be able to recognize that? Because to your point, people aren't just going to point it out to you. They're not going to tell you, shot, you need to do X, Y, or Z. You've got to be perceptive and say, well, damn, Cheryl is in the gym at 6 a.m.

or whatever it may be, then I need to be there at 5.30, and if she stays until 3, I need to stay till at least 4 just to be able to catch her. But it seems like, especially in the younger generation, they want everything spelled out and handed to them as opposed to just recognizing the importance of just looking at who do you want to be like or how do they work. Right. It's a dynamic.

I think like Gil said it best when he seen Kobe in the lab and even before that when he was in Golden State. Even his stories about how he did it and how he came into terms of understanding what he needed to do to show Jason Richardson, like, yo, I really want this. And Jason Richardson going to his coaching staff and being like y'all should give him an opportunity and that's just him Seeing it from somewhere else like yo, I got to do this not only for me But I want my teammates to recognize I'm one of these type of guys and I think the young generation Even though a guy might say to them and you need to stay a little longer and you may need to do this you do that They not implementing it right away. They need other references that are higher up. Like if I haven't never done anything in the league, I can't go and tell and work out with these guys and they

listen to me because their reference is not as high up compared to if Gil walk in and say the same thing that I say, they're going to say, well, if he said it, then I'm going to do it. So it's more now about guys who have done it and validated to come back to the younger generation and try to give them more jewels. And Gil, for yourself, how many guys, because I've seen it, we were out Summer League last year, just the way guys come up to you. Zero. None of them? Real shit. Can I finish the up to you. Zero. None of them? Real shit. I didn't finish the question.

No? No. No, it's your show. No, no, no. I'm saying how many guys that come up to you and actually ask for advice, do you think actually really listen to what you're saying? Zero. See?

But I moved it that way because I know what the answer is. Okay, so... You know how, like, Charles Barkley said, Kevin Durant is not a leader? Uh-huh. Right? And the biggest... This big mystery...

I don't know how... This big mystery about what a leader is, right? Mm-hmm. Is it more on the leader side or the follower side? Because if you're working out 6 a.m., you said you knew what they were doing, so you knew you had to turn it up, right? They didn't push you from words. They pushed you by up, right? They didn't push you from words, they push you by action. So isn't it instilled in the person themselves to want to get better?

Yes. It should be. Right? Because when you look at all greats, all greats had teammates. And when someone tries to say, he was a great leader, and then I go on the roster and then I can show you he had 100 players and there's 98 of them that didn't have the same work ethic. And most great players,

they're selfish in their work ethic itself. If you want to be a part of it, it's you wanting to be a part of it. So when people say, yeah, he got me better, and I ask, how? He allowed me to work with him. And I'm like, did you take that step? Yeah. Right? It still has to be with you.

You have to be wanting to be great too. There's no star player that has this work ethic and put his work be with you. You have to be wanting to be great too. You know, there's no star player that has this work ethic and put his work ethic in you. Because if that was the case, there would be a hundred Kobe's and a hundred, I mean, you know, you got LeBron James who goes to the gym at 1 o'clock. If I ask the Lakers staff how many other players go at 1, and they're going to say, well, none, just him.

So is he, you know, in the theory, is he a leader or not? Right. You know, which part of leadership gets credited for that player versus just the success on the court? I don't... Yeah, but I also think that, like, people's definition of a leader is different also. Because I... Like, when I played, I considered myself a leader,

but as a leader, I could also be a follower. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. And I think there are a lot of people who don't understand that, right? If they look at you and they're like, well, Gil's the leader, so I'm going to wait and see what Gil does. But no, because you can take it upon yourself to also be that leader.

And then Gil as a leader is going to see that and be like, you know what? Let me come and be a part of this also. So like all leaders don't have to be in the front, I guess is my point. Let me give you context though. The context that Gil's talking about is the fact that individually, you can go out there and become better

and go there at one o'clock, right? And everybody else individually is not gonna go at one o'clock because right? And everybody else individually is not going to go at one o'clock because they don't actually follow his regimen. But in the team setting, LeBron James is the leader where when we're trying to become a cohesive unit in practice, y'all know when I speak, this is what it is. And the young fellows are now learning that this is what leadership looks like in our team setting. Now, individually, if you want to know what LeBron is doing, you got to be there at one o'clock. You got to be there at 6 a.m., 4 a.m., all of the little things that the great players do in their spare time when they're not in the team setting. But in the team setting, leadership propels and it goes to another level when I need to speak as a leader. And this is defensive

rotation. That's what makes you, like you said, when y'all was practicing, it was your turn sometimes, it was Cynthia's turn, Tina's turn. Every now and again, everybody had their chance to lead, but it was in the team setting, and it had nothing to do with individually. So, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he also say, maybe it wasn't him, somebody also said Steph wasn't a leader?

Yeah, it was Stephen A. No, right? Yeah. So my question to that is, why? Why do you say they're not leaders? Not you. No, no, because we're being judged by people who don't play the game, so they don't know what the hell leader is.

Because in their definition, the leader to them is the person who is the loudest in doing that. So they're ideal of what they've seen. And this person won. They consider that leadership. So you said it. A leader knows how to take a back seat. So when the greats, right, when you have Kobe, LeBron, and Jordan competing, right?

And the knock on LeBron will always be he didn't take the final shots. And I always say, well, if that wasn't his real skill, if he didn't have the one-on-one skill, right, that wasn't his thing, isn't he a great leader by finding the person who does have it? Right? Not making the right play. Right. Like if I'm on the floor and me and LeBron is playing and it's 10 seconds left and he's saying, let me take the last shot every single time and we losing games.

I'm going to be looking at him like you're a horrible leader. No doubt. Because obviously that's my job. That's what I do best Yeah, so I'm like well you know a leader because you said it a leader does take back seats and I Don't know if everybody really understands that like the smart play. Yeah leaders make the smart play Jordans Smart play majority of the time was his ability to do it

There was some times where he made passes to other players because he was double. Smart. Boom. Kobe knows I can get my shot off anybody and I'm going to put myself in position. Then there's plays where oh shit, Ron Artes is open. I trust him in this moment. Boom. Right? Yeah. And I think sometimes

we get so fixated, well not players, but the media gets so fixated on how someone else did it, not realizing there's multiple roads to the same fucking finish line. Yeah. I don't have to take it the same route. If that's the finish line and I want to run that motherfucker this way, I'm going to get there.

And when I get there, you celebrate I got to the finish line versus saying, ah, you didn't do it the same way Did it? Yeah, like making a million dollars goddamn it is making a million dollars. Don't ask me how I got it Just but I had me to the fucking list. Yeah. Yeah, but if you think about it We've seen greatness mirrored from two players and Now they think that greatness is supposed to look the same right instead of you know we look at brawn coming in his greatness looks different than the two that we've seen we failed at this level so if it

doesn't look the same we don't like it we're gonna criticize it because they used to take this shot in this moment and you're passing it how can you be great right but like you said the smart play is this is not my ability. My skill set is not to do this, even though I can and I have many times, but it's not my top skill set like it was for these other guys. And even them passed it off when they had to and they needed to. So I think that's the most important thing is that greatness doesn't all look the same when we talk about greatness.

We all think it's supposed to be this linear thing. And I always speak about it from a skill set point of view of how I watch the game and who looked the best doing it. And I always thought that Kobe looked the best when I watched basketball. But it doesn't mean that his greatness is better than other people's greatness. It's just the best that I've seen. Yeah.

So when the people want to say that LeBron is the greatest that they've ever seen, it's based on what they think greatness is. It's not necessarily one linear line to it. Yeah, I just, the last thing I want to say on it, when you talk about like the Steph situation with Draymond, when Draymond was going through all of that, I think people look at it and say, well, if he's a leader, he should be loud. He should be out here in public, right, saying, like, we have no idea what conversations Steph has had, probably continues to have with Dre behind the scenes, behind closed doors. So, like, who are we to criticize him and say you're not doing what a leader should do?

But that's always been the problem. And there's this big battle now between ex-athletes and media, right? That's the battle now. Because before, it was considered like hot takes. Is he a leader or not, right? That's a fucking question. Now everybody gets to chime in. That's not real question. Now everybody gets to chime in.

That's not real what you just did. You just said something that's going viral that has no knowledge behind it. It has no knowledge behind it. There's no basketball knowledge that actually gets to support this. So now this is what happens. So when basketball players are coming in and we're trying to educate, everyone's giving us the, like, no, that's not what we were told. That's not my problem. Right.

That's not my fucking problem. That's what you was. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm sorry the guy behind the seat who went to college watching basketball like you do has told you this is, he's only good because he shoots this, that, and that. Oh, he's 90, 40, and 50. I mean, if you take 12 shots a game or four shots a game, I'm pretty sure your fucking shit should be

90, 40, and whatever the fuck that stat is. It's amazing. 90, 40, 90. Oh, you take four. And the problem with those type of guys, they're horrible for the game because they're only looking to be that so if I'm 50 50 from the three-point line guess what I'm

I'm not gonna shoot one that I think is gonna fuck up my percentage absolutely but I played with a player like that and he's wide open it's three two and nope he does the pump fake he'll take a turnover he'll take a turnover you know what i mean yes he'll take a turnover before he takes a wild shot yeah and you and that's not part of the game right so even though it looks good for a stat sheet that's what it is it's a stat sheet player right and obviously the media won't know that because they're going to keep pushing it. Right. I've never seen something in my life sounds like this. Russell Westbrook

has a triple-double season. That's considered stat patent. Jokic and Luka has almost a triple-double season, and that's, whoo! Great basketball. Great, oh, my God, they almost got it.

We should kind of round up for them. What the fuck are we rounding up for when the person who actually got one, we're like, ah. Here's a media trick. Luka's just did something, right? He's averaging, what, 52.7? Right, 52.7 totals, that's the most since what, Kareem?

He's averaging 52.7 points, rebounds, and assists. Right, they said it since Kareem, right? So they're saying Westbrook didn't average that a few years ago when he averaged 52.7. I wasn't thinking about the stat.

So Westbrook, so it should be since Westbrook. And when Westbrook did it, it should have been since Kareem, but they didn't do that. So they manipulate everything to make it seem like something. That's because Westbrook is still playing.

And he's not as playing as well, so they don't even want to give him credit that his greatness is still alive. And fact that you got to compare two other guys that are playing right now to the guy who's still playing he's not playing at that level they want to discredit that no when he was playing to that level they didn't they didn't mention i know and then they could mention it now but i'm saying when luca did it when luca doing it. It's the the person that's he got to be compared to since right Russell You can't skip Russell like it is this they don't know all they don't want to credit because that would be crediting But that's what I'm saying

But that's that's media there they see someone do something and he's he's doing it so well And making it look so easy they say ah that doesn't that doesn't count They want to make it seem like it was so long ago before it was done So it can give Luca and Joker some more some like merit, but it's like no we had somebody do that a few years ago three straight seasons Like why are we not giving him credit? Oh cuz he's still playing And I think that's the narrative. Westbrook is that great that you don't want to give him the credit.

I hope ESPN fire a whole bunch more people. I'm sorry, but there's just things in this game. There's just things I just don't like. I'm sorry. They can have a job.

I don't like the idea that you dumbed down the sport with hot takes that make it seem like anyone can do this job. Yeah. Right? If I right now tried to talk baseball or football, they will look at me like I'm an idiot. Yeah. But all of them can just come into the sport and talk it because they don't have to talk it with knowledge. They just put a hot take.

Who's the best player? Oh, what is this? What is that? And that became the storyline of our sport. Oh, do you guys think he's patenting stats? Talk about it. Do you think this and that? That's not our sport.

Why can't our sport be as great as other sports when it comes to the knowledge kicks ass, right? Like when you have JJs and them, people look at him like well why why is this smarty already part coming into this fucking using this duke education we don't want to the fans don't want to hear this shit they just want to hear who's the greatest of all time who's top 10 that's that's not fucking sports though yeah they don't want to be challenged. Because if we was to go talk football, they would try to challenge us. Hell yeah, they'd challenge the shit out of us. Did you ever play cornerback?

Yeah. Did you ever play tight end? Nope, I just didn't. But I'm going to challenge your ass over it. When did you play shooting guard? Mm-hmm. Well, I did. So what the hell is you talking about?

I'm curious. Yeah. You got so much to say about the shooting guard position. Ain't never shot a shot. I ain't never caught a goddamn touchdown. I ain't going to sit here and talk about a fucking slant down the middle. I ain't never caught no slant with Ray Lewis in the middle trying to tackle me. Hell no. I know what it look like though. I know I'm going to run. But that's why you don't see that. It just makes for frustrating because it's like we're battling for the sport itself,

like getting back the sport. Yeah. Like, you guys are using metrics to create greatness that has to do with hot takes and not reality. And that's... That's a fair assessment, Gil. You brought up triple doubles, so we gotta show some love to Joker with a little bit of hibachi time. Let's get it.

I love the lighting. Mm-hmm. Sure, we got some new lighting in here. They don't really... I'm feeling the lighting, too. They broke the bank. They broke the bank. So you talked about, you know,

Westbrook not getting the love for his triple doubles, but Joker's been his thing as well. Of course. He gets his love for his. We get it. We get Westbrook's tons of love on this show. You say it like brewing. So after making his shoot with the first triple-double of 2015-15 while shooting 100% from the field last Thursday against the Wizards,

Yogi's made it three straight with triple-doubles against the Blazers Friday and Warriors on Sunday. Not impressed. Not impressed. 32.16 rebounds, 16 dimes to help the Nuggets sweep the season series. Get their seventh straight win over the Warriors. Gil's not impressed. Can I have a little bit Gil? Can you be impressed by both what Westbrook's doing and what Joker's doing? Oh, you got the final, ladies and gentlemen, here.

Getting some knowledge. Shad, are you impressed by this? About the triple doubles? No other all-star on the team. It's weird, because I actually watched this game and I see how Draymond guards Jokic, and he has a very, very tough time against Draymond. And if Draymond could play him the whole game, I think that triple-double looks a little different.

Okay. Because a lot of his passes and things come from different angles where Draymond is off the ball or they've switched off a couple times and, you know, they move in a lot. And it attributes to defense. It attributes to ball pressure. A lot of things fundamentally is going away from the game that's allowing guys to get stats that look good.

But at the same time, it's like, you know, if we apply more pressure, if the team actually, like, bites down on the defensive side, like, does it look the same? Does it look the same? Does it look the same? But you can't take nothing away from him because he's skilled enough to still make it happen, 32-16-16. It's just a lot.

I don't like the idea of there's no defense and people are not trying to play defense. That's just a horrible narrative. The game is different. What. It's the game is different It's the what I mean is the game is different. There's no there's no more liabilities on the court But Gil ain't nobody guarding nobody How was that obvious? No, how are we obvious? How hard was it to guard your team?

With all those stars on it. I was hard to tell okay So nobody's sitting in they couldn't sit in the lane and do all this stuff. Hello, are you going to leave me and you're going to leave me and leave Cooper? Wait, there are a lot of teams out there like we had. No, there's not a lot of teams that

had like superstars right on one team. But now you have guys who can spread the floor. So when I decided to drive drive i have a specialist now i actually have a specialist that he's only in the game to shoot threes so when i drive like yeah oh okay there we go there's no more dead weight there's guys but if you know he's a specialist and he's in the game to shoot, don't help off of it. Right.

We force him to pass it to the guy that's not the specialist. So here we go. Don't help off of him. So when I drive now and you say, no one's playing defense, yeah, because no one can take... There's no more taking the charges. There's no more of that because there's specialists out there now. So the floor is wide open so when you got your one-on-one guys coming through the lane, there's no one there to help.

But there's been specialists before. In the history of the game, there's always been a shooter on the floor. It has. Special. You said it. A shooter. Or two. Or two. Or three. Okay. Jordan, right? Jordan had... Paxson.

Right? So now, okay, so let's give Jordan... Kerr. Let's give Jordan Paxson, Steve Kerr, who else? Craig Hodges, BJ Armstrong. So now you got Michael Jordan, Paxson, Kerr, BJ Armstrong, and Craig...

And Kukoc at the five. When Jordan decides to drive drive who the hell is there how much does Jordan average now when you sitting there with a whole bunch of three-point shooters you there's nobody in the lane anymore there's no Dennis Rodman man sitting there there's no Pippen's man sitting there there's no robber of Luke long these guys see no no how much is that different often what Luke Longley's guy sitting in the... We're talking about Jordan, though. That's a different offense. What I'm saying is, how much does he average now when he's going one-on-one?

That's what I'm saying. That's the game now. The game now has to... It's not, because you're talking about one guy who can do that, who can increase his scoring by allowing the game to open up because he was such a dynamic scorer. Joker is not Michael Jordan.

And if we were to take away Michael Porter Jr. and KCP and say, all right, we're going to make these other guys beat us. What other guys? Brown and Watson and whoever else. All right, even if Joker got to play one-on-one, like, we're not going to allow certain drives, straight-line drives to the basket. We're going to help him double. We're going to...

We got to scramble. We got to really play defense, and that's what I'm saying when it comes to the defensive side of ball pressure. Like, simple things. Ball pressure. When he got the ball, pressure the ball.

He's bringing the ball up the court. He's the slowest dude on the... Why not pick him up? Ooh. Whoever. His man that's exactly slow like him? No, he's not. No, if it's Draymond guarding him, no.

Exactly. But that's what Draymond... I'm saying, then pick him up, make him uncomfortable with it. Like yeah, he bringing the ball up, but he ain't got handles like that. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm just saying, like, defense is also all about effort. Like, you gotta

want to guard somebody. So, Dre, pick him up. Make him get a ball up. But that's not, but it's technically not Dre's man. It's Looney's man. Looney, pick him up. Ball pressure. Looney can pick him up. Even if you don't go pick him up full court, meet him at half court.

Let's be honest. Let's be honest. Looney, be honest. Pick and roll. Looney, pick me up, right? So the guy who's protecting the basket, pick me up. All right, Gordon down there. Let's go. Play defense. Front to post. Front to post. You're not just throwing it in. And think about it. Pick and roll, they're just

switching. It's just switch. Because they're too lazy. You're not asking why. But's just switch. Because they're too lazy. You're not asking why. But they're lazy. No, that's a narrative. I'm watching side pick and roll. Ask why they're switching.

What are they trying to stay out of? Rotations now. When Murray does a pick and roll, before we would have hard showed. now. Do your Joker's man is hard show it. They never are leaving They never hard show why not because they stopped doing it why cuz the coaches are lazy that you keep putting the narrative out there That's what it is. If I'm doing a pick and roll, right? Let's say who guards your kids Draymond green, right? So we get back show get back now. What did guards do? I'm you're gonna hard show me

I'm gonna string you out. So so instead of coming off I'm gonna push so far out that horror show comes your man just pop now You can just buy himself, but you had to stop the ball. I got the rotation. Yes, the rotation. Now, I'm- So if he's popping, somebody should be rotating- Yes, immediately. To go get out to the shooter. Okay, so this is how it looks, right? Me and you just did a pick and roll, boom.

You're stringing it out. Right? So that is the corner guy. Now, her man has to help you. Okay. I pass it to you. For them to stop your shot They had to come all the way over here and then the bottom man goes the bottom man goes It's on the string it's called chain reaction where's the other players at Cheryl who's rotating that person the bottom guy Yes, cuz the balls on that side corner, that person should go take it.

Immediately. What does that mean? What does that mean? Well, whoever's over there, you should be dropping. Yes. You shouldn't be hugging your man when the ball's in the corner. Yes. No, no, no, the ball is not in the corner.

The ball's on this side of the floor, though. It's on that side of the floor. It's on this side of the floor, though. What happened? The ball's on this side of the floor, so whoever's over there shouldn't be over there. They should have a foot in the paint. Yes. So I do the pick and roll, boom, right? You throw back. I, right. Yeah. Now when does this person leave right now person you pointing it?

They're gonna be the bottom person. Yes. Well that person should be moving. So what about their man? Right cuz the balls what if their men? You know, you do know that one person also Can guard two people you have to it sometimes? Yeah when you're to play in defense So the ball, I got the ball. Whoever's over there on that side, there's no action over there. So why are you hugging your man? You should be moving to the paint. You're going to move into the paint.

So if I got it, that person's coming to help. So they're open. So I kick here. Bottom person should be going out to take that. So whoever is guarding over here, you should be dropping in the paint. So if there's a skip pass, whatever, that person has to go get it. The person that's defending over here, now you got to go get in the paint. Mm-hmm.

So, again, it's all about effort, though. And that's why they stopped that because of everything you just said. That's why he said it's lazy. No, because of that, because now this pick and roll goes to Devin Booker. That Devin Booker goes to KD. You now have KD on the rotation. I got you. the rotation, which Katie's is driving past the guy who's coming out. Now, when I do this, here's the signs.

I come here, he rolls. Now if he rolls and that guy, that person tries to pick them up, I'm throwing here, you help. Now that's, let's say, the matrix. So that's what we tried to pre-rotate. So we tried to pre-rotate. Now the Matrix is coming up the lane because you want

to pre-help there. Now Matrix man got the ball. Now he's diving. It became such a hassle with little wrinkles. Now it became a you got to work your ass on defense. Yes. I got two. And so now it's like I don't want to do that. That's too much work.

It's too much work, bro. We played against a team that was called the Phoenix Suns. Right? Where the weakest shooter on the court was the Matrix. That was the weakest shooter on the court. So now we're going to just help off the Matrix. Well, unfortunately, the Matrix is smart enough to go for lobs, right? When we're sitting here trying to pre-rotate, right?

So now you're trying to get to that person while he's trying to go for a lob, right? So that became a problem. So then the problem came, okay, we're just going to sag on Steve Nash so we don't hard show on Amari because Amari's going to dive. Right? So now we don't want to leave the corner guy because Amari's just going to dunk on him. Right? So now we're trying to sag and he's just going to keep stringing and stringing it. And before we stop him, someone else goes, someone else shots.

But you're saying pre-rotate. So when you pre-rotate, of course somebody's going to be open. But it ain't about pre-rotating. It's about you move when the ball is in the air. That's old basketball. No, but Gil, you're saying this about old basketball. That's basketball. And you're saying this about

one team. One team. Out of the 29 others. Because this only team that you're mentioning is a great valid point. Because we all had trouble with Phoenix with this scenario and all pick and rolls with Steve Nash. The Matrix was the exception. He was the anomaly.

He was Neo. It's like, damn, what are we going to do when he flashes? He's going to do this. Everybody else, though, didn't have the Phoenix Suns with all those shooters around. So when you talk about having two, I'm a defender. I got two for a split second. I have to make a decision on where I go to Boris DL or

Rajah Bell who's the better shooter? I'm gonna go fake to Boris and I'm gonna go to Rajah Because he's the better shooter, but that's just with one team everything else in a pick and roll on the side Like you said we are guarding the ball You're not guarding your man. And if we got away from guarding the ball, now we're guarding our man. We look at the situation now. We got defense playing the way it is now. We're guarding our man. We're not guarding the ball.

Yes. And that's lazy. Don't agree. No, it's lazy. But the defense today, it's like, well, I'm just going to guard my man. I'm going to face guard my man, so I don't care if the ball's over there and this man's driving to the basket I'm not coming to help. No no no no hell. I just gave him a team right. I just gave him a team He said yeah, we all had a problem with that team and then every other team the other 29 teams, we played them regular. Right?

He's just saying we had a problem with that team because they had too much offense out there. There was really no dead wings. Right? 15 years later, what do you think everybody decided to do? That they don't have the same. What do you think everybody decided to do? Oh, so we don't need bad defensive player to just put a shooter out there to make it like Phoenix. So every team decided to copy the model of five scores out there so it'll make it hard to guard like he said.

But it's not. It's not harder to guard. It's not harder to guard. That's the point. If you play hard defense, every team don't got shooters like the Phoenix Suns had. So all the whispering and all that shit, it sound good because you want it to look the same way. It don't because we watching it in real time.

The Lakers do not have shooters like the Phoenix Suns. So we're not going to guard the have shooters like the Phoenix Suns and we're not gonna guard the Lakers you use like the Phoenix Suns we're gonna short closed out on all of them he uses the same team that I kill and says why you use the basketball you use the team that I've said you guys are horrible because one your team is built like it's 2004 you have guys on the team that don't shoot so everyone watches and sits in the lane to guard lebron james and anthony davis so i don't have to guard this guy anymore i can sit in the lane like it's fucking 1980 now why you think they have the worst offense in the league?

Because they still have defensive guys in the game that can't spread the floor. So because of those guys who can't spread the floor, I'm not guarding you, homeboy. I've done smart enough. I'm not going to guard you. LeBron pick and roll. AD pick and roll. We're going to sit here. Every other team does not

do that besides the Lakers. How many other teams have good enough players like Denver, like Phoenix, like Milwaukee? These are three or four teams. The same teams that nobody can guard. Three or four teams that got the actual formula to say, we'll put this guy here, here, here. But look, what I'm saying basketball-wise, when we have to make the decision that what we're going to give up for tonight. Clippers, Indiana. What are we giving up?

So that's my point. So back then. But you also can't have the same defensive scheme or plan for every team. But what I'm saying is back then, it was one team that was offense like that. Today, there's only two teams that got old school defense. What do you mean? When Luka starts getting ready to do that thing and he starts getting busy, who are you coming off of? But what's old school defense?

Old school defense is, well, old school offense was I have one and a half, maybe two scores that can put the ball in the basket. So which means, let's sit back and say a big super team was Shaquille O'Neal in the 2004 Lakers, right? So you got Kobe at the one, I mean, you have Gary Payton at the one, Kobe at the two, George, Devin George at the three, Karl Malone at the four, Shaquille O'Neal at the five. Now, what an amazing team, right? Unfortunately, the problem with the team is, you guys all need to get to the basket because you guys can't shoot the fucking ball, right?

So, Kobe was the best shooter, but he only made one three a game. Devin George trash at shooting Gary Peyton didn't shoot the ball car Malone's mid-range guy then you have Shaq so these two like the planets. So what do you? What do you think the defense look like then? Everybody under the paint Gary Payne. I'm gonna sit at the free-throw line. I'm not I don't fuck about your pick and roll I'm gonna hey stay on the shack We're gonna go under meet him at the free throw line.

Defense became easy because there was nobody to spread the floor. Sit at the nail. If it's Kobe on his side, just say to Kobe, what? Were you an NBA? All you're talking about

is elbows and boxes. Elbows and boxes. Elbows and boxes. Elbows and boxes because of why? Because that's defense. That's called shell drill defense. Elbows. Shell drill defense was elbows and boxes.

That's what we're going to play. It don't matter if you can shoot or not. Because you know what it's called? A closeout. Closeout. Run them off the line. Make them to a two-dribble pull-up. Let me ask you a question.

That's effort. Hold on. Let me ask you a question. I'm going to do a pick and roll, right? I'm coming middle. You're taught what? To sit at the nail, right? Where'm coming middle You're taught what to sit at the nail right where I you're on the weak side your weak side guard, right? So I'm coming off the pick and roll your job as a defensive player Stay at the nail right now if that's let's say

Ben Simmons over there right I'm gonna shoot it all right. There's no way I'm going to get past you. Obviously, you're not going to even budge, right? So that means I'm not going to be able to get middle. Okay, now let's switch that person and let's make that KD or Curry. Are you going to be at that nail when I turn that corner? You have to be because that's our principle still. And you have to be. The coach says our principle. And that's the coach says, don't come off Curry. Right.

So maybe. What do you think your coach says? Going to be at the nail? Be at the nail. Who's going to have the ball? But listen. If Curry don't got the ball, who has the ball? You can do with that, though. What are you going to do?

Right. So maybe I'm not going to be all the way at the nail. Right. I'm going to take a step off. But I'll also say this. Depending on this defender, I can probably take a couple steps off and still get there. Another defender, maybe not.

So you've got to be closer to him or her if that's a shooter. But I also, as a coach, might say, you know what? When Gil comes off the screen, we're going to trap him. Trap him. I got Kevin Durant. I got Kevin.

I got Kevin Durant. Okay. I got Kevin Durant. They're all taped. I got Kevin Durant and I got Booker. Listen. That's what I'm saying. No, but if you trap somebody coming off a screen,

of course somebody's going to be open. Because now you have two people guarding one. But that's also why you work on it in practice. This is what our rotation is going to look like. No matter the threat. No, Gil. I get it. You're trying to. You're giving us the threat. I is what our rotation is gonna look like no matter the threat You're giving us the threat giving you what is reality we're not playing We don't have Kevin Durant in that spot I don't have a top guy in that spot. There's a reason 30 teams are doing like they're dumb

Yes 30 teams are doing defense like that. They're dumb. All 30? Yes. Or you're stupid. That you're going to come off Curry. We play the game. You fucking know. Curry. I'm going to come off. But Curry is different. I'm doing a pick.

Curry is different. Curry is different though. Everybody don't have a Curry on their team. No, nigga. They got more than Curry now. But Curry. I'm not. Oh, my God.

They got more than Curry now. Curry is different. Curry is different. They got more than Curry now. See, That's why y'all casuals now There's a reason Phoenix don't have a real point guard. They got a dude named Boogie some Dutch They have a real point guard. No, no, no, no They have a real point go they have a dude by the name of Booker That means all your small point guys got a guard Booker now when Booker comes off this pick and roll and you decide to help

He's passing that motherfucker to a dude named Beal. And if you think about going off of Beal, off of Kevin Durant, you're gonna get your ass busted. There's a reason. There's a reason. All of them are scoring 30, 20, 40. I have a Booker. I have a Booker.

I have a Booker on my team. I have a Kevin Durant on my team. And I have a Beal on my team. All average 30 at Durant on my team. And I have a Beal on my team. All average 30 at some point. There's no fucking Horace Grants anymore. There's no... What are you saying? There's no BJ Armstrongs anymore.

I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense. There's a Michael Jordan. There's a Michael Jordan type of guy on the team. Right? No. There's a Michael Jordan type. Who?

Type. A dude who can put 30. A dude who can put 30. A dude who can put 30. I'm not saying Michael Jordan himself. I have a dude that can put 30 on the score. And then his counterpart. There's no Scottie Pippen types anymore. Right?

There's no guy who's going to put in 16. That's the fucking fourth option now. So why are they not winning every game though, Gil? With everything you're saying, the Phoenix Suns shouldn't lose. Because there's no defense that can guard them. everybody's the same. There's no defense everybody is built to say So why are they losing games if nobody can guard them body is built the same now? Are you not do you know I'm asking you a real I'm a you not watch how white why is Joker doing what Joker's doing? Right with the same team his team is built to do something.

If you're going to help, you're going to duck in. If he's going to help up, I'm going to throw the lob. If you're going to do this, I'm going to do that. I'm going to set the pick. I'm going to pose up. You want to switch? Push the switch. I'm going to pose this guy up.

If you're going to hard show, they're more tactical now because they have more weapons to play with. We were just talking about Phoenix. Now we're talking about Denver. I'm telling you, there's more weapons now. But we was just talking about Phoenix, now we're talking about Denver. I'm telling you, there's more weapons now. But you're only talking about two different teams. There's no Tony Coupe coach. You're only talking about two different teams. There's no Tony Coupe coach, my guy. And then you're going back

to 96. There's no, I'm sorry, I'm trying to tell you. Why do you go back to 96? There's no Devin Georges anymore. Stop. Stop. Those guys are, there's no Eric Snows anymore. I'm going to help them. I snows anymore. I'm gonna help Your and you're going over the top for no reason when we're talking about Basketball and you're going back to 2004. This is 20 years ago. You're talking about we're talking about yesterday

Literally the games that we just watched where there was no defense being played. Majority of the game. Because rotations were non-existent. Ball pressure. Effort. Getting in the passing lanes. Denying. None of that shit is even.

Like what are we talking about? We're not talking about defense non-existent. Offensively, yes. Players, I feel, are better. 100%. But they don't play defense. I'm not saying you're going to shut players down every night, but defense is all about effort. Defense is all about depending on matchups,

depending on who you're playing, depending on what they do. Your defensive schemes have to change based on teams and purse and and Personnel. Yes. Okay, so I'm going back. I'm going to your team Telefair right. Why are you going? No, no, because that's what you're Because that's what you're that's where your brain is second. No, it's not. Hold on You got telefare Rashad McCance is at the two What Ryan Gomes is at the three?

Jefferson's at the four The only way he can try to prove his points to go back in time we're talking about 2024 okay, so because you don't want to upgrade to 2024 I have Bring you back to your I just did. I got to bring you back to your feet. I just did. I'm going to bring you back. It has nothing to do with me or my team. Why would you do that? Because you're trying to embarrass me or something? Why would you have to go to the Timberwolves? Why add to all the teams you could use?

You're going to use my team. That's crazy. Maybe if you shut the fuck up and let me say it. That's crazy. Right? So you're at the two. Ryan Gomes is at the three. Al Jeffers is at the four. Theo Ratliff is at the five, right? Now, in today's game, Telefair now shoots threes, right? Not just the driver. That guy now is a fox or what's it? So that guy, McCants is still McCants. Now, Ryan Gomes is not a, your Ryan Gomes

wasn't really a three-point shooter. That guy doesn't exist anymore. That's a dead-ass three-point shooter. Now, Theo Ratliff, he don't even exist no more. So there's no Theo Ratliff. That is the shooter. Then you have Al Jefferson. How different does it play out now to guard your team when you got four shooters with Al Jefferson down there? It becomes different, huh?

See, you was guarded easier because they can just aim off. It doesn't become different. You're just saying it because you want me to say it becomes different. I'm not going to make it sound different. I know you're not. Because I'm going to play defense the way we play defense. We give up what we give up, and we're going to play defense to our principles. Our principles are, if this guy's a shooter who's a four-man,

we've seen a four-man who can shoot. You know by the name of Dirk Nowinski? Yep. You know guys like that that shooter who's a four man. We've seen a four man who can shoot, you know By the name of dirt the Rinsky. Yep You know guys like that that can shoot as a forward a stretch and still have a big man Yeah in the paint right then you have so what are you gonna do with dirt at the for? Well, I'm you it's a pick and pop you have to full rotate you have to pre rotate Whatever it is that we decide to do we're gonna do it until it we can't do it anymore We got to switch it up.

We're going to trap this. We're going to make him pop it and swing it. We're going to do things that's going to have to have us scramble. Whatever it is, we're going to do it where the effort is there. So what happens? So you're going to do it until it hurts you, right? Until we have to adjust. Okay, so now 2024, the adjustment has been no effort.

We're just going to switch everything because we can't rotate to all these. Because we're lazy. We haven't even tried to. What do you mean we haven't tried to? We've been doing it for years, and the better offensive came. We had to adjust. We have better athletes right now. So if we haven't tried the old way

of playing defense with the new athletes we don't even know if it's possible we've already adapted to switching without even trying to scramble y'all are way more athletic you got way more energy so why is it that you're switching everything when y'all not even trying to show and get back but you got better athletes but do they have more space to cover too, I guess would be my... It wouldn't matter because you got to pick guys up closer to the three-point line if you're dealing with dames, Stephs. These are three or four guys in the league that you have to deal with like that. Just like we had to deal with a Gilbert. Gilbert, Chris, Paul. They bring it up. You got to get them early. Trap them early. But it

wasn't a lot of them. there is there isn't there's only Four or five of them not shooting from where they were shooting from there's only three or four of them shooting from where you got to Pick them up early now They're picking everyone up early and allowing the snake pick and roll They'll lie everything to be done where you can't adjust because you're playing dumb defense Go under that shit. Go under that shit. Make him shoot that shit.

He's not a fucking 45% three point shooter. He's a 35% three point shooter. Why are we making, giving him such respect to the point where, okay, he's fucking up our strategy now. Earned it. They haven't because we haven't adjusted the defense. What are you talking about they haven't adjusted? There's a reason they're playing defense the way they're playing so they can all stay out of rotations.

That is why it's going that way. That's saving the guys who don't want to rotate. That's lazy defense. You're saving star players. You're saving guys who don't want to play defense. They're saving energy. And that's the difference. You're saving energy.

It ain't breaking up. It's basketball. It's basketball. This is a real topic. Real topic. People are talking about the game. Don't play no defense and not realize there's fucking daggers on the court now. I'm sorry. There's always been daggers.

I guarantee you, everybody who plays the Lakers, it looks like they're playing great fucking defense. Right? Am I? Has anybody who played the Lakers, has anybody said, oh, man, they're not, they're playing fucking great defense

because it looks like great defense because everyone gets to sit on it. But when Prince is hitting, when Reeves is hitting, it looks great, don't it? It looks like we got guys who hitting on all cylinders tonight. Because tonight is their night to hit because we're giving them open shots based on our rotations. Yes. Right?

Now when our rotations are going well and they're missing shots, does it look like we're playing good defense? Yeah, when Prince is shooting because he's not really a shooter, when Van is shooting because we're giving him. Are you going to give Michael Porter Jr. those same looks? If he's off, he's off. Are you going to give him? Are you going to let Michael Porter shoot? No. No, okay.

No, no, no, I didn't say let. But if you come into the game, right, this is our game plan, defensively. Yes. And if, no, you're not going to let him. But if he's off, then I'm going to be like, I'm just going to let him keep shooting until he proves me wrong. Yes, he's got to prove it. The difference is he shoots 13 threes a game.

I mean, this is the type of guy. Van don't shoot threes, so we want him to shoot. Why would you want the guy, that's what he wants to do, do? There's a reason that they're playing the defense this way. I don't want to be in rotations no more. There's too many scores. I don't have dead weight. So what do you want to do defensively?

Depending on what team I'm guarding. That's what I just said. If I'm guarding... That's what I just said. What I'm saying is everybody is the same besides the Lakers. I can point out flaws on the Lakers. What are you going to do

when Paul George and Kawhi do pick and roll? You're going to hard show. If you're going to double. Depends on who youi do pick and roll? You're going to hard show? If you're going to double? Depends on who you want the guard. Who? You're going to double? You're going to double Paul George doing a pick and roll with Kawhi? Come on.

Say it. Yes. If we needed to. If that was our rotation. Okay. Who are we leaving open? We're leaving Terrence Mann open on the opposite corner. Yes.

Double that. Pre-rotate. No. No. No. No. No. That's hard. Harder. No, it's not Pre-rotate. No, no, no. That's hard.

No, it's not. Man is in the game, too. He's in the game. But not on this side. It don't matter what side it is. We're leaving him open. So stay with Hart. Double that. Pre-rotate. Stay to him. Leave him open.

Wait, hold on. See, this is why having a conversation without a board just sounds stupid. I'm doing the pick and roll. Wow. Who's the pick and roll? Paul George and Kawhi doing the pick and roll, and I have James Harden in my heart corner. Where is he? You're going to double.

Where's James Harden? Corner. He's in the corner. So you're going to double me. I know. Is the pick and roll at the top of the key or on the side? On the side. You know what I'm doing. You know what side. Oh, you know what I'm doing

I'm gonna do a pick and roll side pick and roll side pick and roll you parted in my strong corner, right? You're gonna double Paul George and I pass it back to kawaii and you're gonna do what again? Weird first of all, you're not passing it back to kwhi and you're going to do what again? Weird. First of all, you're not passing it back to Kawhi because we're fucking taking that away. Officer, you're going to pre-rotate off of James Harden. Yes, because your only kickback is to Kawhi. Or I can just throw it to fucking James Harden. Not if the double team is strong enough and you're playing real defense.

I got it. That's the difference. Ball pressure. If we play the ball, if we play the game the way it's supposed to, ball pressure is going to be. I can see why I averaged 29 at the age of 24, because this is what I had to. You played in a Princeton offense, Gilbert.

We couldn't do a lot of those things. I know, and I created it. That was the difference. And I created most of the plays. That's the difference. I created most of the plays. Everybody's not playing Princeton offense right now, are they? Is a lot of people playing Princeton offense?

No, they're playing three games. They're playing freestyle. I just want people to know. 30 a game. Shit, I averaged 30 a game in Princeton, too. I know you wouldn't. I know how to play that shit. No, you wouldn't.

Yes, I would have. Yes, I would have. How? Yes, I would have because I know how to play basketball. That's how. Nigga, what the fuck you mean? Then why didn't nobody else average 30 a game? Because we didn't have the Princeton often. Why didn't nobody have it Kevin Martin? I created a bit more in every holiday a

Kevin Marta fuck that you were in the 30 and I played book that I created Kevin Martin the fucking Marvin Come out what he average, huh? Same offense. Huh? You tell me. 27. You tell me who had. What plays in the Princeton had the point guard posting up? And then if you're in front of me, I repost it this way. That was plays I put in, sir. So you wouldn't have averaged 30 in my playbook because you wouldn't have had my playbook. I could definitely post up little guards at 6'4".

I'm the same size as you. You wasn't a point guard and I could play You played your shooting guard Your position For the same time. I know we're the same size It was an advantage for me. y'all supposed to be brothers. I'm just saying you You can't use my playbook that I created. I'm sorry sir. That's the height works Let's keep this movie tweak cuz y'all can go all day. I realize defense is there in ways look

See how far you gotta go wait is hey? Oh, we're gonna go post up, right? And they're going to teach you what? Front, right? Uh-huh. Hey, hey. They're going to front. We're going to fake the post up, and we're going to pass it this way. Hey, front. Thank you.

Lay up. That's why I was getting dum-dums like that down there. Front me. Post up. That ain't got nothing to do with defense today. So see how fast we move from defense today to what I would do? Yeah, that's how far he got to move the goalposts. There's no goalposts. He tried to beat me, and he still can't beat me.

There's no beating. And he still can't beat me. There's no beating. Because defense wins. I guarantee you. He still can't beat me. How about this? We can do this.

He can't beat me in nothing. Shooting, Xbox, cards, we're running Whatever how far I got his number and whatever we play what card game any card game Pinnacle whatever you want to fucking play he can't beat me. Hey, you see what he got to do to try who know Good. Can you be Rashad? Oh? Oh no nothing. I beat him in flip Flipping coins you did I hit five million he did exactly what he do Let's keep this moving We got you here now laughs. I mean nothing Cheryl

Let's take a minute to decompress why would you compressing if you have not done so already download the underdog fantasy I use promo code Gil They will match your first deposit up to 100 American dollars 100 American I don't know why you're sweating. Hey, what you sweating for? See what happens you could take the higher lower You do be cutting the AC in here when we get a little heated but So, Sheryl, now we're going to move this on to you. Dang, I knew you was going to come to me. But you know, we want to give you your opportunity.

Because, you know, this is Gil's arena, but it's really Sheryl's arena when you pull up. So we're not trying to bring up old shit. But last time you were here, you had some people in their feelings over some comments about Kaitlyn Clark. Since then, you and Kaitlyn have chatted, which I think everybody needs to know and understand. And she's since gone on to set the NCAA Women's Division I scoring record. So we got you here on this couch. I know you wanted to address this, so the floor is yours. Are you asking me a question? I'm asking you to go ahead. It's your show now. Oh, gosh. Well, what if people don't know what you're talking about?

I think I did describe it. Would you like me? Yeah, go ahead. So, I mean, we were talking about Kaylynn setting the record, and you had given some comments, some opinions on it. And since, you know, they were addressed on the show, but I think a lot of people on social media only got a certain snippet of it. Yeah. People tend to do on social media, not show the full conversation, to create a narrative.

In the aftermath of that, we've seen certain women in certain parts of the country wearing shirts that say don't be a Cheryl I don't know why you wouldn't want to be a four-time champion three time MVP become gold medalist and member of the esteemed gills arena I mean I mean they're saying don't be great there's also been the other side that has shown a tremendous amount of support is that be a sure we got rid of that don't those four letters do not need to be on the shirt. And we've come and launched our own.

So just from your standpoint, obviously, you know, just addressing all those things. I know, like I said, you and Caitlin have chatted. You've said previously that you want to keep those discussions private.

And if she wants to talk about it, she can. But just from your standpoint, just to have a moment Well, you put a lot in that. What? You put a lot in that. First of all, be a Cheryl.

Shirts, hoodies are coming for you three. God is good. God, where do I start? So, you know what? Let me start here. First of all, to your point, I've actually spoken with Angel. Had a great conversation with Angel on the phone. Messaged with Caitlyn. Because I don't have her number, but I messaged with Caitlin on Twitter. She responded. She and I had a really good conversation.

I'm going to go here first, because I'm going to say the hate that like came my way was like real, like real and real ugly. Everything from racist to nigga to bitch to monkey to you, anything you can think of. My mama used to say everything but a child of God. Mm-hmm. Anything you can think of, my mama used to say everything but a child of God. And so for me, when we had the discussion, I guess that was, I don't know, a few weeks ago, it wasn't personal. It was, one, it was my opinion on how I think she'll be at the next level, how I think Angel will be at the next level. But a lot of people, I guess, were upset when I was like, well, yeah, it's her fifth year, but it's really her fourth.

But to your point, they didn't listen to the whole thing because you did correct that. I'm going to say this, and then I want to be done with this whole conversation. So for people to come at me and say that I made those comments because I'm a racist. First of all, black people can't be racist, but that's the farthest thing from my mind. I grew up in a very small West Texas town, predominantly white. My best childhood friend is white, went to a predominantly white college, won a national championship. Pretty much everyone on the team was white. We're sisters to this day.

That's not a part of my DNA. But for me, it's very important though that I'm a black woman. So it's important for me that I speak up for people that look like me. Like, it's Black History Month. So, like our ancestors fought and died for us to have opportunities that we have today. So anytime I have an opportunity to obviously be on the podcast or anything where I feel like it's important

for me to speak up and show support, that's what I me to speak up and show support, that's what I want to do. I have no issues with Caitlyn, her breaking the record, I think obviously is a tremendous accomplishment, although we could get into that discussion also, because there's a big debate on Lynette Woodard having the actual record. But I think what Kaitlyn has done for not just college basketball, but for women's basketball, period,

I think has been great. The following, people watching the game, sellouts that we haven't seen ever. It just really bothers me, though, when people just take bits and pieces of what they want to take, and they don't listen to everything, and you don't hear everything. Because I do remember me saying that Caitlyn, to me, could be the best college shooter I've ever seen, right? So I don't. I don't have any hard feelings towards Caitlyn, no hard feelings towards Angel.

My thing is when you put these expectations on these young women in college to go to the next level and be immediately dominant, and when that doesn't happen, then people come back and say, oh, she was a bust, she was a flop, she wasn't that good.

Just let them do what they're doing in college, enjoy what they're doing in college, and let them become stars in the WNBA. It's not about me liking you, not liking you, me hating on you. I don't even know how to let those words

come out of my mouth, but yeah, it was a lot. But I do, and I have to say this before we move on. So to, like, every single person on social media that, like, held it down for me, that was like, oh, no, we're not doing this. Like, I got mad love and respect for all of them for showing up and showing out and making sure that I was good, because people were checking on me.

And I'm very appreciative of that. Hey, what was this? Huh? It was brief. It was brief. What? I said, when was this? What? This year? Yeah. This was, like,

a couple weeks ago. Oh, you. I got to give you the blueprint. Yeah, it was like... You say shit, then just watch Netflix. No, it was like... It was a couple weeks ago. Oh, yeah. Oh. I got to get you the blueprint You say shit didn't just watch Netflix Yeah, oh cuz I go ah fuck you sin and then just like watch the TV what happens happens Fight with you motherfuckers on this shit, I think

I didn't I didn't go back and forth with them. My thing is, everybody's entitled to their opinion. And I gave mine. You said I did. You did what? Going back and forth. I know, he did. That's my baby brother.

Of course he did. But my thing is, like, everybody is entitled to their opinion. And I gave my opinion. And whether you liked it or not, I didn't ask you to give me my opinion. Exactly. So no, I didn't go back and forth with them. But initially my Instagram, everything was public. So of course people comment and comment and comment. Ugly stuff. So then they get mad when I block them. Yeah

You're not you're not good then how do you go see did no oh no, you know I got to let you see all the shit fuck shit. I say I'll gotta get in line It's one thing if it's directed at me like I'm I'm good with it But then when you start bringing my son into it, who has zero to do with anything, that's when I have a real problem with it. Well, you know, there's a lot of haters,

a lot of pieces of shit on social media, a lot of people that hide behind avis, feel like they can say whatever they want, that would never say anything to you. You got to keep it positive. For sure. Just for... For sure.

Just for a friend. Just for a friend. Just for a friend? Yeah. Black people can't be racist? Are you saying you're racist? I mean, you know, I got... No, no, no. I'm not saying that.

No, what I'm just saying, I got a few black people that could rob me, some people chase me. There's a lot of people I don't like I don't know That's a long history lesson. What is it? Is the black people can't be raised against black people? We got some free. Yeah. Yes. I was just what I mean. I don't like you niggas. Yeah, I was just I Don't like you. I'm into typical. I mean, I know the black and white in that I'm talking about just Bush like sure you can. But Cheryl,

you don't have an opinion. You have a perspective. Did you see that jersey over there? It is for sure perspective. Okay, that's a perspective. Opinion is not backed by experience. Perspective is. And that's why people get it fucked up when we as athletes start coming out, as former athletes start talking shit

that we're critical of other players, but it's coming coming from experience we're the only ones that can talk from a perspective so you're being critical of two players that are going to come into the league and think that they're going to go here and you're giving them a hold on wait a minute it's not that i don't even think my thing was it wasn't i don't even know if they think that, right? I don't, it wasn't about Angel and Caitlyn thinking it. It was more about, like, the media, their fans. Yes. Right? So my thing was, I'm not saying that they're not going to be good.

I'm not saying that they're not going to shine. My thing was, when I hear dominate, I think about you're coming into the league the first year, you're going to be MVP, you're going to kick everybody's ass, you're going to be the leading scorer, you're going to win a championship. To me, that's dominating. So what I said was, no, I don't think either of them are going to do that immediately when they come into the WNBA. And that's your perspective. And that was... And because you've been a champion.

You know how hard that is. Four times. It's difficult. But anyway. But you're talking about a league where first-round picks literally don't make the roster. You know what I'm saying? So it's very competitive, very cutthroat right now.

So I don't think anything you said was far-fetched. And I don't think you said that neither one of them will get to that level It just won't necessarily be immediate But again, they have teammates and teammates got jobs and those teammates is like I'm not letting the girl come in here Yeah, that's just that's even Yeah, that's what that's what you said It's a job and when I look at the WNBA again what we said, you know what we said, there aren't enough roster spots. There aren't enough teams.

It is what it is. That's where we are. So it's very different going from your collegiate team to the pros. And it's also an adjustment. You're not a college student athlete anymore. You're a pro. No one is there giving you your schedule. You've got to go to class.

You've got to eat at this time. Like, it's an adjustment. So... And, Rashad, I think we talk about perspective. I mean, Sheryl, when you talk about yourself, we're talking about a four-time WNBA champion, three-time gold medalist, three-time MVP. So I'd say that resume isn't held by very many people

on this planet, so I would be more inclined. Right. And you should... I'm merely a host. I just sit on this couch. That's the same thing. That's what you guys are here for. That's why I don't do much of the talking Gil. Thank you for allowing me. You shouldn't have to defend yourself for that either.

I mean, it speaks for itself for you to be, if at all, a critic to these young players and say, look, it's not going to be that easy. It should be warranted that everybody respects your opinion at least the highest It shouldn't be anybody coming for you unless it's another player at your caliber saying I disagree Oh, you know, I was up there too. I was saying, you know, if it was Lisa or one of these other disagreeing But it's not it's a bunch of fans and their feelings and you gotta like you could say some shit about me If I'm saying this is like yeah, I ain't warned. If I'm saying this shit, it's like, yeah, I ain't warning you. I ain't none of this shit. But if Gil is saying it, he's a three-time All-NBA motherfucker.

Like, if something he's saying, is he saying it? You know what I'm saying? Hey, I got that thing, girl. It means something if it's coming from him. Champion shit wasn't in my destiny. I was going for scoring title. I was going for scoring title. Shit, the way I was thinking.

And Cheryl, just so you know, the internet thrives on negativity. You can look at the chat for any episode and see people routinely saying the nastiest of the nastiest things. I know. I do. I know that.

And even for myself, I look at this chat while I'm doing the show and the amount of hate that comes. And then I just think about, well, shit, Director Posit is coming in about four more days. Four more days. Always on time.

God bless you, Underdog Fantasy. So, woof, woof. But I do want to talk about you and Angel. So you linked up with Angel, I believe, after LSU's game

at Texas A&M on February 19th. She posted a photo on social. Very, very nice sweatshirt she's wearing, be a Cheryl. Said, the past and present. I love you. Wow.

Did you just say wow? How'd she get one before us? Really? She had that made. I didn't do that. She had that made and she actually gave me a t-shirt. Okay. I blame Jenna. Don't do that. Where's the shipment?

Send the merch. You are Gina. Don't do that. Where's the shipment? Send the merch. You are slacking right now and that is unlike you. Okay. Send the merch. You know the address. You know what I'll say about Angel is I think Angel has a lot of potential. And so when

I had a conversation with her, and I can say this because I don't think she'll mind, she actually said to me, she said, like, thank you. Thank you for even mentioning my name. And she said, I agree with you. I know I'm not going to do what like, I just want to be here to help, to mentor. To your question you asked Gil earlier about how many current players come up to him and, you know, want to talk to him and ask him for advice. Like, Angel is one of those players that I was just like, you got my number, anything I can do to help you, like, I got you. So at that game, I was just going to support.

And she surprised me. I had no idea that she had the sweatshirt made, that she had the t-shirt made. And, you know, she was just like, I want to be a Cheryl. And I think initially when, so I didn't see it. Someone sent it to me when the people from Iowa made the t-shirt. Someone actually sent it to me and I laughed because I was like, oh my God, that's funny. Like, it's funny. And then it went from that to

like, people, my people on social media were like, oh no, we're not doing this. And I had so many people that came up with the Be A Cheryl design, got it, made, sent, people ordered T-shirts. And so that moment when Angel did that and she said that to me was very special for me because I do feel like the conversation she and I had registered somewhere with her. And she appreciated it.

Well, sure, we appreciate you. It ain't about hate. It's all love over here. Yeah. Except when we get into the debate, it ain't love.

Except when they go at it. But they are best friends. So let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk about the Clippers Guild, your favorite JV team in L.A.

They'll be moving into a new arena next season, and we'll have a new look. They announced that they're rebranding. That is the new Los Angeles Clippers logo. Ew. That is a new Los Angeles Clippers court. What is that? At the Intuit Dome.

A sea with a... A ship? That is the new uniforms. It's modeled by James Harden. Come with a whole new logo, new design, and these are some of the other uniform options that they'll be rolling out. They look the same to me.

They're clean. I will say that. They are clean. So you guys rolling with the Clippers new rebrand? They need something. They need to try something. I'm not mad at it. I mean, I do. I mean, I do like the colors better than purple or gold.

But I do like the colors better. I mean, red, white, and blue, you can match it with regular shit. Aw. You know? Purple or gold, like, when you wear purple or gold, you automatically Lakers. You automatically.

Right? Right? You automatically. It's hard to get pissed off. That's a fucking Laker fan. Red, white, and blue, you can mix in. You were purple you automatically That's a fucking leg of fame red white blue you can make I'll give me credit. I kind of like I know you love it. Why did you say that? Brings you back home, don't it? Oh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Brings you back home. They say, oh. Look familiar, don't they?

They say, oh. If there was a 22 Swoop's on it, you'd be like, oh, that's my jersey. That's my jersey. That does look a little familiar up there. That does look a little familiar. The Clippers are looking for jerseys, so they're going to hang them up all over the Intuit dome. I feel like you should send them a Swoop's.

I mean, this is just, I mean, if they want to be, you know, they should, if they want to see. What? No, I'm just, if they want to see how bad they were in the past, they should just put up every jersey that ever went through the organization. Oh, gosh. Look up there and just start giggling. Gil, some jerseys would not be giggled at.

Some jerseys would not be giggled at. Who? Whose jerseys you talking about? Who wouldn't be giggled at? Some players on that team would not be giggled at. Some jerseys would not be giggled at. Who's jerseys you talking about, Gil? Who won't be giggled at? Some players on that team would not be giggled at, Gil. It has to be somebody recent, because, I mean, anybody... Your pops. Ah, I forgot. I had to think.

Say some people have pops. Some people. Not his choice. Ken Norman. Jelly Bean. Jelly Bean. San Diego, but it counts Okay, they can't suck it Donald Sterling's Jersey will not be hanging in the rafters

He probably got like full girlfriends sitting on the beach. Leave him wherever he is. Wherever he is. He's probably black. He's probably black now. He's probably black now. He's probably black. He fell asleep in the sun. He fell asleep in the sun.

For a long time. Not controlling his work, but God is good. All right, so last thing we're going to talk about before we get to Mosey fans. We're going to switch it over to the football side. Things got heated during the 7-on-7 tournament in Atlanta on Sunday. Former NFL MVP Cam Newton was involved in a brawl in which several dudes tried to jump him. So we got some of the video right here. Who came? I was going to say, who lost the game? You know. So clearly you didn't need it. So it's unclear what led to the fight, but Newton and others involved were removed

from the event in the aftermath. So Newton's C1N squad participated in the event and lost to Top Shell Performance, a wide receiver training facility in Atlanta that has youth teams in the event. They played on Saturday. This happened on Sunday. So according to reports, individuals involved with Top Shell Performance, or TSP for short, approached Newton in a brawn suit.

Two of the men fighting with Newton were both coaches for top show performance and formerly coached with cam according to a source and Then also shout out to the legend Carl Reid who pointed out that cam goes to a lot of these events and people talk real Crazy and real spicy to him at the so these coaches he was whooping ass. Oh, these wasn't kids No, they were they were grown adult human beings. And shout out to Cam, the hat. It may have shifted just a little bit, but it stayed intact. Had the cigar on the side still. Nobody knows that.

That little cigar. He had the hair popping out for stability. So ex-coaches and coaches. Wow. It was going down. But shout out to Cam. I think upwards of six human beings tried to jump him, did not get him to the ground.

I started doing push-ups ever since then. Because I think I'm the only one that looks at fights and just put myself into it and be like, yeah, I would have been down right there. Yeah, that hit, yeah, I would have been gone right there. I'm the only one that would be watching movies like, yeah, I could have played that because I would have been gone right there. I'm the only one that would be watching movies like... Killies? Yeah, I could have played it, because I would have been already stumped out by now.

I just... Talk about it. Not a sound decision. I'll just say that. Talk about it. Came doing the bigger job. I just don't understand it. Which part?

The fighting of the youth event? I mean... Not a good look. Why? That's what I want to know. Like, I mean, because obviously someone who got fired before, so he's probably mad. I mean, I... You know what I got to respect him for, Cam, on this one?

Knowing that they were adults he never threw a punch right he never threw a punch I'ma hold you in the head like I'ma hold you down so to the point where you know it's like well I'm pretty sure he knew that the people that's punching at him he was stronger than and the fact that he didn't use his strength to really put some of these dudes down. That dude in the head, he could have really just go to sleep.

He could have really, he could have really did some damage. So the fact that he didn't even throw a punch and he's still trying to, let me just... It's assault though, right? Soft defense. No, no, no.

It came at him first. Hey, but it's still assault. Yeah, yeah, it's assault because he right? Self-defense. No, no, no. It came with him first. Hey, but it's still assault. Yeah, yeah, it's assault because he's bigger than everybody else. He's smart. He has a right to stay on his ground. He do. I still hit you. It's still an image thing.

Yeah, because now we go to court and all that. If I don't hit y'all, y'all hit me. I'm cool. But why us? The question was, does this happen at an Eli Manning camp? What is this event? Black History Month. Does this happen at Eli Manning?

Eli and Peyton and Tom Brady don't ever have these problems. So my question is, was this a Cam Newton event? So he had a team participating in the event, seven-on-seven tournament in Atlanta. That he always does? So I think his teams participate. I think it was 18-9 or 15-9. So he had teams participating in the event seven on seven tournament in Atlanta and we're that he always does so I think his teams participate I think it was 18 and under 15 and under so he had teams participating in the event he pulled up to support apparently got into it was coaches on a different team and apparently these things get very heated a lot of trash talk a little bit more turnt up than AAU events

on the basketball side yeah I was just looking at the man. I would have jumped that geek. Yeah, what was his friends at? That's why I don't know. I you I don't need my friends in situations like that cuz I would have jumped the gate Right he cameras by no no no no other people came later I mean it looked like it happened off It probably it looked like it happened fast like probably one of the coaches probably was talking trash. Yeah, it look like a camera snapper too So he snapped they probably snapping back You know cam talk shit, but the fact that one of the code this is an ex coach though So this is all don't don't run up on me like yeah, don't run up on me like that. Yeah, don't do that

Don't do that. I feel so I could have got real ugly. That's what city. That's what it could have been I'm like He really tried to suck a bunch of I really did it three-on-one Yeah, so they had a collective we're gonna jump him and those Four people I think you can see in the video but upwards of six were involved in that scuffle going at cam I think securing the police officer got into separated But did not drop him did not remove the hat from his head That's the air cabadoo hat that's That's magic mine would have fell off because I don't that gate out, it probably went sideways and it probably left.

Trust me, I wasn't going back for it. Okay. Yeah, that was impressive. Yeah, that motherfucker got a cat in the hat for real. There's a cat in there holding that motherfucker together in there. I just can't wait till he do the replay because, you know, he going to do the replay of it. I can't wait. He got to. I can't wait till that happens. He got to tell us what was being said, what sparked it. Because, you know, he going to do the replay of it. I can't wait. He got to. I can't wait for that. He got to tell us what was being said, what sparked it. Because, you know, he's a little funny with it, too. He going to look at him and be like, I should have laid his ass out. I had him like this.

I should have laid this nigga like this. One of those funny texts with the, you know, you're going to read. I got to tell you, about 30 minutes to read a Cam Newton post. Oh, yeah, the one who got his ass whooped, right? Oh, shit. Somebody... Brack? That's how everybody found out,

because it looked like little kids at first. It did look like little kids. One of them posted a video bragging about not successfully jumping Cam Newton. At this point, the fact that you were adults and he didn't swing, you guys would work. That was like the work where you can't hit your girl, she fighting, he an old draw baby.

He was treating y'all like ladies. Just watch out, watch out. Watch out. Come on, stop. Put a little strut over your head, baby. Baby, stop. Baby, stop. Come on, stop.

Watch out, little dude. The fact that you adults and he didn't swing he treated y'all like little crew watch out little bag that you said i got my licks off this is weird shit yeah i got my licks off what what licks i'm sending your ass to jail. Call the cops. Security! Wow. Thank you. Now let's move to Mostly Fans, our last segment of the day. Apollo need a raise, man. Wow. How do they understand this music?

This is Mostly Fans music. This is his music. He likes this shit. I am merely a host. I do what they tell me. If you have a check for me, I'll do whatever you say for the most part. Within reason. Late night, late night.

Yeah, I'm like, ooh! He changes his voice and everything. Mm-hmm. I didn't do it today. You never know what's going on with him. I didn't do it today, because y'all insulted me before the show. I hear it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it, that's it, that's it, that's it. Theo from 92.3. He got the total free line, too. For those who remember. If you call 1-800. Oh, my gosh. May I do my job?

Go ahead. Yes. Okay, thank you, guys. God bless you. Pony Tank, one of the greatest movies ever. Shots from the state. Facts. See?

They know. And for all you y'all folks out there, it's okay to like things that old people like, okay? You don't have to be contrarians about everything. Right, they're probably like, what? We get it. What? Are they speaking English right now? We get it.

We get it. So first question is from underdog user kingshock82. Have parents or kids ever disrespected y'all at camps like they do camp? I love that this is like a normal thing for a camp to pull up to a camp and just get disrespected as a former NFL MVP, but have parents or kids ever disrespected y'all at camps like they do camp? No.

Nope. I think I'm, unfortunately, I think I'm probably one of the most disrespectful parents. You're a I do talk here Cuz I don't be thinking about this parents and I just be thinking about again. Come on, but he trashed I know I know I like yo shake him I don't know why I be doing that and I be thinking like I'll be sit down like oh my god

Oh shit, that's somebody's Few games with you is definitely some moments where I'd be forgetting I'd be free other parents I don't know. I'd be forgetting and I always catch myself like oh shit. Why not Wow? Let me take a picture with a Really I really mean it. I was just mean it. I was just in the moment of the game. Imagine this kid has to look over and see Gil doing that. The heartbreak in their face.

He'd be like, stop passing him the ball. Stop passing him the ball. I'd be doing that. Your dad called me trash. I know. I'd be so Trash! I'd be so bad. I'd be trolling and be forgetting like these are real kids and they got real that's you I'm one of that parent Yeah, the funny thing seeing the parents they want to say something they look over the he's Richard Like I'm not one and I don't go back and forth I just be like I even

my son Like my son RT like oh no and then he should all God why you pass him the ball. I'd yeah My dad was the same way my mom was that way though. I got kicked off a team cuz it I'm a league I'm a least equal opportunities Everybody everybody get it the refs everybody. My mom was that way. Why you passing her that ball? She can't shoot. I was like, Mom. Mom, stop.

Yeah. I was like, oh God. I remember the administration trying to give me like, no, you shut up. Get over there. Close game. It's close game. Close game. It's close game.

You sit over there. Somebody get Gilbert. Oh my God. I remember the other team said, how do you feel, Mr. Arenas? I said, oh, it was a good game. Yeah, it was good that you lost to some team that sucks. Oh, damn. And I was like, oh, that was then the moment.

Once the game is over with, both teams is the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, girl, you got to forget about it. Let's just take this picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, girl, you got to forget about it. Let's just take this picture. Yeah, go ahead. Stop tripping. Let's move on to our next question.

This is going to be a tough one. I want you guys to really take some time to think about it. It's from Gideon Prince. He said, keep one movie, drop two.

Choices are Boys in the Hood, Paid in Full, Menace to Society. Keep one and drop two? You got to remove two and keep one. Boys in the Hood, Paid in Full, Menace to Society. Ooh.

I'm keeping Paid in Full. You're keeping Paid in Full. Okay. Interesting. That was my name, Lucky Ace. Oh. Quality movie. We're on the West Coast.

We may feel a tad different. I got shot Don't walk the same no more be I know so boys in the hood paid for a minister society No ribs, no rice. No nothing for you I'm keeping Minister society shout out the Hughes brothers. Yeah I'm keeping......Minister Society. Ooh. Charlotte Hughes Brothers. Yeah.

Jada Jada. Yeah. John Singleton has yet to get love... Kane. ...on this couch. That was tough for me. That one or Boys in the Hood. But I'm keeping Minister Society.

Got my little sister pregnant. Little cousin. Got my cousin pregnant. That's a cousin pregnant. A great film. Wait, Boys in the Hood is ice-cube, right? Hoes got to eat, too? Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. You didn't have to say that, though. At a barbecue, like, yo, wow. That's what you keep in? I mean, y'all pick the ones I want. Y'all want to see a dead body. A lot of quotables.

I just watched that. Ricky! Y'all want to see a dead body? A lot of quotables. I just watched that. Ricky! Y'all want to see a dead body? Mm-hmm. Get my ball back. I mean, I like Peyton Full because, you know, from the drug dealing side of things,

you know, you got a quiet dude who wasn't flashy, kind of show you the difference between flashy and... I don't remember Peyton Full. Hmm? I don't remember that one.

Rico? Who was in it? Macabre Pfeiffer, Cameron. Cameron, Woody. They're in every movie. I remember. I don't remember. But all three was good. Now I gotta watch it.

Boy in the Hood, good movie. Boy in the Hood with the Z. Just imagine if they would have baked the fish instead of frying it. DC. They would have got off the the hood DC is where it's at So our last question is a video question from underdog user big tone never wrong big tone. What up gills arena I got two questions for y'all Your first question is what player had the best hoop documentary that y'all saw and my second question is if you can make a documentary About any Hooper, who would you make it about? Mmm, we'll play her the best documentary man. Fuck that. What is that on the ceiling? He's projected

Right now what are you doing like Like laying right there just being, yeah, just, yo, I'm getting that. I'm getting that. I'm getting that. I'm getting, yes. It's a projector. It's a projector. We don't know what he's doing when he's laying down. It don't matter.

It don't matter. But the show is that good. The show is that good. That's it. That's it. The show is that good. What's his name? Big Tone Never Wrong. The show is that good. That's it, that's it. The show is that good. What's his name? Big Tone, Never Wrong.

Get Big Tone, 300. 300, Big Tone, Never Wrong. He laying in bed watching. I like that, laying in the bed watching. What are you doing? He is light years ahead of us. So, what player had the best hoop documentary and who do you want to see a basketball documentary of?

Ooh. Well, Sebastian Telfair. Telfair. His is the best that I've seen. Oh, I didn't see that. Arthur Agee and William Gates were all with. Hoop Dreams was on, right? Yeah.

But who was that on? Arthur Agee, William Gates, and the legend Bo Agee, who could have won pro most likely. Ooh. Gosh. Space Jam, also an option. I'm going to throw this short, and it was really Gil the whole time. It was Gil the whole time? He thought it was me.

I'm going most recent. I liked, I can't remember that. fucking stole his short and it was really Gil the whole time. It was Gil the whole time? He thought it was me. I'm going most recent. I liked, I can't remember that. I liked Michael Jordan's. The Last Dance? Yeah, I did. I liked that a lot. It was the Chicago Bulls, by the way.

Huh? It was the Chicago Bulls documentary. The No Bulls tour. It was about Michael Jordan. Not about the Bulls. I guess that's why he beefed it. I guess that's why he's mad.

Because it didn't say the Michael Jordan documentary. It was the bulls, but it wasn't Michael Jordan. So they had the No Bulls tour this weekend. Apparently it was very classy. They were just offering

their perspective. No George Slander like we prayed. They must have listened. They did. Shout out, Corey, for tagging me and letting me know.

So you telling me I can't pick that one? No, no, no, you definitely can. It was, though. Your best player hoop documentary. I said hoop game. Okay, you agreed. We agreed on something. Look at you.

All right. Direct deposit me. And who do you want to see a basketball documentary on? Basketball documentary on Cheryl Swoop. Really? Oh, absolutely. It is one already. Ooh.

You already did one? Sort of. It's a 30 for 30? It's a 30 for 30. How long? Pretty good. How long is it? We're beefing with ESPN right now, so.

Is it two hours? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. See, it's not as much. I need a two hour. I need much doc. Tell them what our check. Tell them what our check. We need the two hours. I need a doc.

I need the childhood. I need to hear it all. Doo-doo-doo. I'm checking that out. Oh, it's on 30? 30? Oh, damn. I'm thinking.

Sorry. They said Tim Duncan with just all subtitles. No talking. Damn. No talking. I want a documentary of Allen Iverson. That's good. Oh, he got a 30 for 30, too.

I don't want no 30 for 30. But the real one, right? I want that from the beginning, childhood, growing up, race, all that. I want... Football and all that. Yeah, I just want it all. Like, you know... I like that.

You know, because, you know, like, did you know. I like that. You know, because you know, like, did you see Stephen A. Smith when he said, because it was a real story where someone convinced Alan, if this is what you're doing while partying, what do you think your game will be like if you slept good, ate,

this, this, and then he played like shit for the two weeks and said, oh, no, I'm going back to partying right went back to partying got drunk came next day 58 so you know what I mean like I need to I want to see all of you know just to show that about that's a nice lifestyle too Anyway, I'm going to go female. I'm going to go with Lynette Woodard. First female Harlem Globetrotter. Played at Kansas, I believe before was involved with the NCAA though, but does technically have the most points still.

That'd be classic. She has the most points. But some bullshit like Kansas wasn't Division I. They don't recognize it for some reason NCAA wasn't the governing body. The scoring record. They didn't NCAA didn't recognize it Okay, so Yeah, I would like to see that. How many points is it that many points where they don't want to recognize it? Is it out of reach? No. Kayla should pass it this year.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I think I'm not going to put numbers out there, so. We will pull it up. She could, but it depends on how far they go in the tournament. So it's that many points. So she has 3,649. I'm going to say Kayla's like 30 points off of her, something like that. Oh, that's it?

Oh, okay. Is it? She's only 30 points off of her. They're close, they're close. Rashad, how about yourself? I mean, I did say Cheryl, so I guess they already got one. Can we do one on the dream killer, Rashad Deon McKenzie? Oh, yeah, that'd be a good. Yes, nigga

Yes Yeah, cuz I scratch mine. Sorry. Sorry We need one on this Right here Have to include my sister though. But let go narrated. Yeah Underdog write the check. No,all want to see how delusional a nigga really is. Come to my word. We want to see where it started. I'll show you where it started,

God damn it. We appreciate you joining us. Always a pleasure to have you on the couch. Always. And to everybody in the chat, you know I love y'all, but sometimes I got to point out, you know, some people have betrayed. There's a lot of great people in the chat and a lot of pieces of shit, too So that's just a part of life. But this is another episode of gills arena. Hold on

I'm back in the gym preparing for the shootout. Oh, we have a we have another girls arena shootout in the works What yeah, what is this? I'm gonna win this time. When is this I'm gonna shoot from the three No tools this time I can get ready I'm gonna be somebody now Now you if you ain't been shoot lately have you been shooting listen If I make 13, that's an upgrade from 12. So my confidence stays high. I'm sorry. This right here was talking so much shit.

Josiah, I said, you coming to sit with us? Mm-hmm. You're done? Mm-hmm. Like, out? Mm-hmm. I was tired. What?

The Gilbrick t-shirts were in here. I wanted to commentate. I'm just trying to tell you. I tried to tell him. I got to keep my confidence. I got to keep my confidence. He was over-preparing. I said, Gil, you over. I try to tell you. I got to keep my confidence. He was over-prepared. I said, Gil, you over-prepared, man. You shoot too much.

I know you're going to see Lexi. Wait to hold it down, Lexi. I'm going for 13. If I get more than 13, I won. I beat me. This is only eight. I get my confidence up. As long as you beat yourself.

What we said earlier, we in competition with ourselves. You got up to slow start. I was like, you know what? He going to warm up. He going to warm up. He going to warm up. Shock me.

He's going to warm up. It shocked me. It shocked me. I knew I was out of there. I'm like, he's going to leave. Just like that power. Just didn't cut on. Just didn't cut on.

Just didn't pay the rent. This has been another episode of Girls Arena presented by Underdog home. Oh, my God. It didn't cut home. It just didn't pay the rent. So this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! We'll see y'all tomorrow! He ain't got no smoke. What smoke? Forgot the button at home. Where the smoke?

Just like I forgot the shot. I forgot it at home. I forgot it somewhere. Thank you. Thank you. Outro Music