Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To ANOTHER Draymond Green Smackdown
Episode Date: December 13, 2023Gil's Arena Reacts To ANOTHER Draymond Green Smackdown as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew discuss Draymond Green's assault on Jusuf Nurkic and debate if the NBA will hand the Golden State Warr...iors enforcer another lengthy suspension. They also discuss the Warriors point of view on the matter, analyzing if they Dubs did the wrong thing by moving on from Jordan Poole instead of Draymond in the final years of Steph Curry's prime. Other NBA Topics include Nikola Jokic's Ejection, Luka Doncic and his MVP Chances this season and Kristaps Porzinigs' recent comments on the JJ Redick Podcast. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:57 Nikola Jokic Gets Ejected 0:14:08 Draymond Smacks Nurk 0:29:0 Do You Expect Another Suspension for Draymond? 0:40:47 When Do the Dubs Say Enough Is Enough 0:48:51 Should Klay Regret Not Taking Extension 0:57:18 Luka's MVP Campaign 1:26:58 What It Takes To Be MVP 1:30:27 Luka's Chances To Be MVP 1:41:49 MostlyFans 1:54:13 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Flashing lights everywhere.
They could be saying shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me.
This is my school.
This is what I was doing when wasn't nobody looking.
Y'all don't know what goes on in practice,
or the locker room.
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Whoa, whoa!
Interesting evening.
Last night.
Some things to discuss.
Niggas out here getting smacked.
Oh, before I get smacked.
Uh-oh.
Listen, I didn't, listen,
Detroit, stop, right?
So I got to apologize
because I forgot which twin that was.
That twin should have been drafted at Houston
because they needed the defensive player.
Asar and... Asar and Amen should have been drafted. Yeah, they were coming for you, Gil.
They should have been drafted in Detroit because you need more of a score over there.
But they come in... Hey, Google don't Google me.
Don't try to Googler me, okay?
I'm better than Google.
I'd say 20 to 21.
You pulling up my rookie year. That's
19-20. 20-21,
I averaged 18.
They said that wasn't enough, though.
Sophomore MVP.
And youngest
most improved. Don't play with me.
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Listen to what I say. Just keep it moving. Don't clap.
You just got to stop fucking with Detroit. They waiting on them keep it moving. No, don't don't clap cuz I just gotta stop fucking with Detroit
They waiting on them boneless wings
Six weeks That brother's starving. Hit that again. I'm going to be real with Detroit. Yeah, that brother's starving.
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I used to love Detroit.
I used to love Detroit until I got served child support
papers in Detroit.
That's not Detroit's fault.
I dodged every city, and it got me in Detroit.
Detroit security wasn't G14 classified.
Nope.
Don't blame the city, dude.
Blame Detroit security.
I'm hiding in Detroit.
Pistons security team, that's what it is.
My fault, Detroit.
They was lacking.
They was lacking?
Man.
This is post-malice, too.
They should have been on their shit.
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Detroit need to bring me back man
Yeah, so that's my baby. We need a mediation when you gotta pull up
Collab for the collab some energy
Pistons talk they expose you girl. I knew kind of what you were saying, but you know, I'm just a host I think my mom's supposed he was wrong. Mmm. I was 1921 he was 1920 Houston Heights. We rock with his order and we rock
We're a man. Yeah, I like that one.
We like both the Thompson twins.
We like the city of Detroit.
For sure.
3-1.
I like the city.
I don't like the security staff back in 2006.
That's all.
That's all.
In that 2006 security staff, I just don't like them.
So, hey, it's off my chest now.
What'd they do to you?
They let the man come in there and give me them papers.
I just told you that.
Wait, when did it happen?
During the game? No, it was the last. I dodged. I them papers. I just told you that. Wait, when did it happen again? During the game?
No, it was the last.
I dodged, I dodged, I dodged the chow.
I dodged my responsibilities in Sacramento.
I dodged them out of California, so it was the last game of the season.
Right.
And I'm getting off the bus, and they said, yo, dude is out there ready to serve you.
How y'all let him get back here?
And I had to accept papers papers or I couldn't play.
You didn't have to.
I trust you.
I left Sacramento.
I didn't even play
the Sacramento game.
Took that flight
all the way to Houston.
Was in the strip club
that same night.
While my team was playing,
I was playing in the strip club.
You don't know me.
You don't know me.
I don't know you.
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Draymond green got a smack closer to sheets ejection record, but is another suspension on the way
Lucas been cooking this season, but what does he need to do to win his first MVP and
After getting ejected in the second quarter in front of his countrymen, Joker had a strong message for NBA officials.
Pull that shit in Serbia and see what's good.
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All right, so let's get this thing started.
A lot of activity around the association last night.
So the Nuggets were in Chicago to play the Bulls and there was a huge contingent of Serbs
in the building to support their native son, Nikola Jokic.
Chicago has the largest population of Serbians outside of Serbia.
I saw somewhere on Google.
I can't confirm for sure, but literally I think Belgrade is the capital city, 1.4 million people.
Chicago has 300,000, which is larger than the second largest city in Serbia.
So they're out there.
They're out and about.
Some people were claiming it was Serbian Heritage Night, but that wasn't
officially the case. They did have a group ticket offer, though.
Either way, Serbs pulled up
to support Joker, but they definitely
didn't get their money's worth.
So let's pull the video up.
After arguing a no-call
late in the second quarter,
getting in the ref shit,
I don't know if it was in English or Serbian.
No call right there.
So Joker was hit with a tech.
Then was promptly ejected.
Look at his face.
Man can't be happy.
He did get ejected.
You know it's bad when even the Bulls announcing crew thought it was some garbage.
Like, they're even salty.
So for those who don't remember, you may recall Joker was the MVP of the NBA's last postseason tournament,
which is not to be confused with the most recent in-season tournament MVP, LeBron Raymond James Sr.
of the NBA Cup World Champion Lakers.
But after the game, Jokic was trying to avoid a fine by not saying too much,
but still managed to get his point across.
It is what it is.
I'm just happy that we didn't play in Serbia this game.
It's going to be really fun to see how we end it.
It was interesting, you know.
It is what it is.
Some guys can say whatever.
I think sometimes what I said is not even technical.
So it is what it is.
So what are our thoughts on Joker getting ejected in that message he sent to the officials?
Yeah, you heard what he said.
You lucky we ain't where.
You lucky we ain't where.
Euro.
I played in Serbia.
Euro.
You lucky we ain't there.
Huh.
That ref would have...
Nothing would have happened to that ref.
What?
In Serbia?
Serbia is one of the nicest places on Earth.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, all right.
He's in Lebanon for sure.
That's one of the nicest places on Earth. He did it for sure. He, I see. He's in Lebanon for sure. That's one of the nicest places on the island.
He did it for sure.
He did it for sure.
I played in Serbia.
Yeah, the crowd might be good.
The city, you can sleep in the park.
Police come give you a kiss on the head.
They don't got no knife.
They don't got no knife report.
No, people ain't getting stabbed.
Uh-uh.
No, people ain't getting stabbed in there.
No.
Because they get kidnapped.
The LGBT community.
They get kidnapped. Nothing happens there. They got AKs getting stabbed in there. No. The LGBT community. They get kidnapped.
Nothing happens there.
They got AKs.
Nothing happens there.
Have you ever seen Taken?
Have you ever seen?
That's where they're taking people.
Have you ever seen them make?
They're not shooting, stabbing nobody.
They're just taking motherfucking people.
Have you seen America?
Taking them.
This is America.
This is America.
You need a set of skills.
I know one thing.
A battery would have been thrown at that redhead in Serbia.
They don't even have scammers. They would throw a battery so hard at that redhead. They don't have scammers and and so like fit that they don't even got them
Did you hear how he was laughing? Yeah, that's why he was laughing
Yeah, who's back? Oh, I see it. Hey, you been to Belgrade sir. I've been to the bagel shop
right down the street
the bagel shop. Right down the street. The bagel shop. The bagel shop.
Bowgrave is beautiful though.
Hey, the Serbian work is nice too.
But the game, listen, yeah, no, they lucky they're not in Serbia though.
That ref would have had a battery thrown in the back of his head.
For sure.
What do you think about two-time MVP, trying to play in front of his people, they
pay good money, come no Bulls game. He gets booted in the second quarter.
I mean, this is a question for Adam Silver. Do you think
that your fans are coming to see the referees?
Your referees, I've been saying it,
they have too much power. They're just like police.
They're the ones that are supposed to be above
what's going on in the game in real time, right?
The player, he feels he got fouled.
He feels he's getting bumped.
And his reaction makes sense.
A referee, you're supposed to be neutral.
So the person who has the responsibility
to just referee the game with no biased opinion
are the ones that seems like they're the weakest-minded.
So you might as well just give the referees jerseys.
You know what I mean?
When that referee kicked them out,
Yoki should have took his jersey off and said,
all right, bitch, you play.
Because this is embarrassing.
I like that.
This is embarrassing.
I like that.
Come on, Gil.
I'll ask the energy right there. Put this is embarrassing. I like this is embarrassing. I like that. Come on girl I'll ask the energy right there put it in to put this in perspective
Casinos mm-hmm the house got to win
If I'm Davis if I'm Adam silver listen to you say and all that shit you saying I'm like man
Yeah, this is sound good. But uh
We got to win in the end the reps playing for us
The refs playing for us. We ain't about to fix it. So y'all win we got to win in the end. The ref's playing for us. The ref's playing for us.
We ain't about to fix it so y'all win.
We got to win in the end.
Who's y'all?
The players.
You mean the fans?
Both.
Both.
The players and the fans.
What I'm saying is all them Serbians came to see this man.
They see him once a year.
We got to control the spread.
We got to control the bet.
We got to control all.
They got to control all of those things. Why would we come in and be like, just because he hearing this.
No, man, we the house got to win.
Are you saying they took the lower?
No, but that's the problem. That's what it looks like. Right? This is a basketball.
This is a basketball game where this man is there once a year. He's not a West Coast team.
So you got half that arena is there.
This is like a home game.
This is like when D. Wade and Braun was coming,
and then you think you're the referee.
You can just kick these two out.
What does that say to your fans?
First of all, as a ref, fucking watch the game.
The fuck is he saying to you?
That's going to make you blow the whistle. In fuck is he saying to you? That's gonna make you blow the whistle.
What is he possibly saying that changes the outcome
of you blowing your whistle?
Somebody in his ear saying you better make them fucking calls.
Don't listen to nothing Gilbert's saying.
In the second quarter?
Look, we down.
We just getting going.
Make them calls.
What calls though?
Scott. Tom.
That's a problem.
Set it even.
Set it straight.
Keep it closed.
Second time that Joker's been ejected in the past few weeks.
Last game he was ejected in the second quarter as well.
Let that man get to halftime.
That doesn't sound like.
Yeah, like.
But that's what I'm saying.
Get to half.
It's.
The players is playing.
Like the emotions of us make sense, right?
We're the emotional ones. We're playing a game. We're playing against other people. We're talking track
We're doing it. That is a part of the game the referees. You're just telling us to stay in between the fucking lines
Right in between the lines
That's all your that That's your fucking job.
Call the game.
Foul.
Okay, shut up.
Okay, run.
Okay, boom.
Take the ball out.
That's your job.
When you start putting yourself into...
Oh, he cussed at me.
He hurt my...
He hurt my feelings.
Get out.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Get out of here.
You on the crap table?
Come on, that's...
You on the crap table?
You killing it?
Uh-huh.
What'd they do?
They start moving shit around. They start moving motherfuckers.
This motherfucker sub in and tap this nigga on the shoulder.
This motherfucker spill the drink over here.
This is what they do.
This is what they doing in the NBA.
They doing the same shit.
It's just a distraction.
It's smoke and mirrors, man.
But this is a basketball game.
You said my name.
Yeah.
It's giving him an excuse to be emotional to do that shit.
They're giving him power so he can dictate it without any explanation.
I don't have to explain why I did it.
I just did it.
But isn't this fucking up to Brett?
Because now if I'm Serbian, I'm going to think twice about going to Joker's game next year
after I done wasted my hard-earned money to go watch last year's postseason tournament MVP.
You know what?
Fans, won't y'all just send complaints in? fans, won't y'all just send complaints in?
Won't y'all just send complaints in to the office
and just start complaining
that you guys are coming to pay your tickets?
Some of you guys are season ticket holders
and the stars are being kicked out.
First quarter.
Stop going to games.
Hey, treat these motherfuckers like jury duty.
If you guys want to bring integrity back to the game,
Adam Silver, you probably won't do it,
but what do they call the motherfuckers
that don't help either?
The NCAA, no, not them.
What's the NBA group?
The Union.
The Union.
Well, they got a name.
The Association, that's right.
Them, right?
I don't like them either, but them.
Get them.
You was about to say the NCAA.
Next lockout.
There's a bunch of niggas.
Oh, there's a bunch of niggas.
You were hilarious.
So look, get them, and during the next lockout, this is what you argue about.
Treat the referees like jury duty, right?
Both coaches on both sides, you pick the refs you want.
You agree to it.
You agree to it. Nah, he gave three of my players technicals last game, no thank you.
He biases them.
He's biased. He's been doing this against us. Start doing that so then you can see which
referees have the thumbs up and the thumbs down.
And you get to take that chance, too, knowingly take that chance.
If you're a coach, you're like, it's between these two and they're both terrible.
We got to pick one of them.
It's like, we got to pick one.
Fuck it.
We're going to pick Tom.
We know Tom ain't going to give a shit.
It's like testing the game before the game.
That's exactly what it is.
I can tell you right now,
Golden State ain't picking Scott Foster.
We know, guaranteed.
But would the other coach pick him? No.
It don't matter. You need both
coaches to vote for yes.
So now if the coaches both vote yes,
that means they're comfortable with
these refs.
Yep.
I like that. Versus you looking at a ref
like, oh man, just think about Yep. I like that. Like, versus you looking at a ref like, oh, man, like,
just think about
the psychological part of that.
Bro, that's why we used
to sit in the locker room.
That's what Ticket
was big on,
knowing who the fuck
the refs was
when we was sitting there.
He's like,
who the fuck
refs are tonight?
He's like,
who we got?
Oh, he couldn't stand
like Violet was cool with her.
He couldn't stand Violet
going at his knees.
He's like,
Violet, god damn.
Joey Crawford? Shit.. It's gonna be a rough
Give me three and two give me three
Like the last thing you should be thinking about playing basketball is who's fucking rapping who's rapping bro
Yeah, I used to buy who's rapping like I'm good not the fucking plan that's not who I'm guarding who's guarding me the refs
We got tonight who we got tonight
Are we playing five on five or five on eight who we got tonight?
So when we look at the distance rational players getting ejected Tom Haberstroh with some great information as usual
So jokies was ejected by a dagger who's a young if I don't know who the fuck that is a young official with no playoff experience
Trey young was ejected by Brent Haskell. We put their names on it a young official with no playoff experience
Jalen Brown was ejected by Jason Goldenberg a young official and with that you guessed it no playoff experience
So I feel like these young dudes are trying to come in and show like you're not just gonna hold us
But at the end of the day, it's always the you it's when you think about
On the streets police who's one quick to pull a trigger the young ones make a name for this the new ones, right?
Same thing here is the referees that you don't know the players the players don't know you and you want to use your power. Yeah
Right, you supposed to be the common. You have nothing on the line. You get paid
two, three thousand dollars. The max
is six for some of y'all per game.
Right?
Win or lose. There's
no win or lose for you. So you
should just be in there.
Travel.
Get on.
Get the fuck on. Like, you know what I mean?
When you start making it about yourself man
Put your put on the fucking Jersey get to get that get that pay raise man. Just here. Just take this shit
Yeah, do you take my jersey? I said the fuck down somebody I do that they get kicked out take off
So when y'all were playing we are playing how hard was it to deal with with young refs?
They got to make a name for the but when you were in the girl how hard did I hear this?
Well, no different's got me.
No different than... Listen, it's fair.
It's the same as a young player who thinks he should be getting the same calls as, like, LeBron James or...
You know what I mean? It's the same thing.
The young players are going to talk the most because they think they should be getting the fouls as this player.
Yeah.
Right? You know, same thing with the refs.
The refs feel that they need to make a name for themselves. They feel
they
they're more offended by the words
that like, how the fuck? Y'all
didn't go through AAU? I'm
pretty sure those parents is way worse
than NBA players. The one thing you're going
to call, you're going to be called the hoe.
The B word.
Sorry LGBT, but you're
going to be called one of those words.
That's just facts.
That's just part of it.
You know what I mean?
So just get those words in your brain knowing that it's going to come out.
But there is a difference, though.
Remember when we left out of college from going from college to pro, the way we talked to refs was different.
We wasn't calling them hoes.
Oh, not in college.
You know what I'm saying?
We had respect, but we still went to them when we was mad
Cuz I used to always stood I used to fuck with the refs tough
So get into the league and hearing how ticket was talking under the rest I was just like yeah, we could talk to him like that now
We could talk to him like that ain't no way
Did he say they cool they not gonna kick you out like it's the respect thing like hey, man
That's a bullshit right there is there I missed it. I might have missed it
What's wrong That's some bullshit right there. He's like, eh, I missed it. I might have missed it. I might have missed it. I might have missed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I might have missed it.
What's wrong with that joke?
That dialogue right there.
Joker comes up, says, I missed it.
Might have missed it.
All right.
He going to go back to doing it?
Just, I missed it.
God damn it.
And then, God damn it, get your shit together.
God damn it.
All right, all right, you're right.
Yeah, I missed it.
You're right, I missed it.
I missed it.
Now, fuck off. Now, keep the fuck on. I missed it Keep the fuck on I said listen you don't got get kicked out. I ain't got all Serbia trying to kill
Oh you won. Oh you won Joker. Oh you won. I got you. I got start making fun back
So is it time for players to do something
At least the stars come together like,
yeah, we got to put an end to this bullshit.
I like the fan thing.
How the fans can play.
How the fans.
They're the one to pay.
Mm-hmm.
So if they start tripping.
Oh, yeah.
That's like right into the White House.
Because I would be hot, too, if I'm from Serbia
and I see Joker come to Chicago and it's the only time
and he get kicked out first half.
For that.
They don't even know what he said yet, huh?
It couldn't have been nothing.
He probably was talking to Serbia.
Mike Malone said it was a term of endearment they used to use at his career
when he was growing up.
But that could be anything.
Yeah, you just got to start speaking in your native tongue
and hope the ref doesn't know what you're saying.
But let's keep this thing moving and shaking. and shaking we got to talk about the biggest story
from last evening
Draymond just finished doing a five-game bid for choking Rudy Gobert
Wow looks like he might be getting another unpaid vacation
So in the bay they like to say food don't slap it smacks. Well, so does Draymond
Draymond didn't like Nurk pushing him wound up
What did the five fingers say to the face?
Smack! Hey bro, this is so unnecessary.
Whoa.
I know right?
So unnecessary.
And Nurk is all on him man. Get off of him man.
I mean Nurk is getting a little bit but Oh that's so unnecessary. Nerkich, y'all on him, man. Get off of him, man. I mean, Nerkich gave him a little bit, but...
Oh, man, yeah.
Oh, that's so unnecessary.
Get off of him, man.
That's so unnecessary.
Dre Swank smacked the shit out of Nerkich.
I came on the show.
There was a video review.
Dre was hit with a flagrant two.
Ejected.
Dre Moss spoke with the media after the game,
offered his thoughts on the flagrant two.
He was pulling my hip,
and I was swinging away to sell the call,
made contact with him.
As you know, I'm not one to apologize for things I meant to do,
but I do apologize to Yusef because I didn't intend to hit him.
I sell calls with my arms.
I don't fall to sell a call.
I'm not a flopper.
So I was just selling the call because he was grabbing me and pulling my hip back.
So I spun away, and unfortunately I hit him.
And so like I said, I apologize to Yusef because I didn't intend to hit him.
So Draymond also said, quote,
I don't think I'm accurate enough punch you to do a full 360 and connect with someone
But just looking at the video
Might disagree. So Nurk was also asked about the incident and had this to say
What's going on with him? I don't know personally. I feel like that brother needed help
That brother?
He tried to choke me Was it John B? I don't know personally I feel like that brother need to help
I'm just out there trying to play basketball, you know, they're swinging
Think we saw that often but um, hope you you know, whatever you guys like to get better
That John B. Girl, it's alright. Look at that John B.
That brother needed help.
See, you know what they call you, my brother.
This is.
He done stole some of your work before. That man
he done stole some of your work before.
My brother, my brother
was at the house the other day.
That brother needed help. He got a black girl.
He already bought her at work.
She was at the house the other day.
He got a couple of them.
He like, Paul Gasol.
He got a couple of them, bro.
He got Memphis.
Memphis with the golds.
Yeah, for sure.
She don't like this.
This is work related?
Work related, bro.
Everything's on the way.
Stop it.
You're doing too much, man.
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to keep that shit in.
That brother needed help.
That brother needed help.
So look, the Gobert choke was questionable, but defensible because Dre was coming to protect Clay.
This latest incident left many people scratching their heads.
So just, what do y'all think about the situation?
And how do you react to this video?
Hey, man, listen.
I know what Dre doing.
He's taking care of these Euros one at a time.
You know what I mean, Dre?
I can't drink. You know what I mean Dre?
I can't drink.
The media is trying to push these your own songs.
You choking and slapping them back.
I get it baby.
Do your thing.
He only did it to two.
Yeah, he got about six, seven more.
He got more games.
This is the third.
He ain't doing it to none.
The bonus tag is the third one.
The bonus tag is Lee American but Lithuania in the middle. This is the third. He ain't doing it. Sabonis technically American, but Lithuanian as well.
This is the third one.
Nah, listen.
I mean, it's whatever.
It's...
No matter how we try to defend him...
I told y'all.
Shorty want to be a thug.
He's the bad kid.
It's just always doing nasty.
Hey, listen.
I'm trying.
Give me something to work with.
Hey, close your eyes next time, Dre.
That man looked him right in his eyes.
You were on his way.
You were like, man, I got to talk about this nigga today. I got nothing. Hey, man. I got one line
Just pass me the ball. Look how soft he passed that ball. He's soft as a pillow.
That's it.
They had John Moran for it, man.
Was it a bounce pass?
Bounce pass, chest pass.
You can bounce it or chest.
You go.
What more do you want from Dre, man?
No, man, I just think, honestly, I mean,
they got to figure out what they going to do going to state overall.
I mean, Mike Dunleavy, man. He got to get ruthless, man.
I mean, it's been
six games, Brandon.
I think we see
why Bob Myers said,
fuck this,
I'm going to the NBA.
Bro, when Bob Myers
went down, bro,
that was a sign, bro.
Yeah, it was a sign.
So, but Golden State,
they got bigger problems
than that.
Like, they got to figure out
what they going to do.
What is Klay
going through right now?
I think the work
fucked him.
Something happened to him
Oh where it's really really really bothering him and only only the work can make you work
Because you like this he's not nothing in the side of the fucking barn broke. It's not it's something going on
No, nothing. I mean just hear me having a slump. Uh-huh. This ain't no slump, bro
Yeah, I'm the slow we were shooters. You know, you know We're shooters. He just in the slump. You know, as a shooter.
He just in the slump.
Klay used to click, click, pow.
They team suck.
That bitch is like Harlem Nights when he say, pfft, pfft.
They team suck.
Pfft.
Shooting that little shit.
We're going to talk Klay in a second, but let's get back to Draymond.
Shooting that little shit.
I know.
Put that little shit away, nigga.
What you doing?
The problem is they should have never went and got old boy
I told y'all from the jump who?
Who?
Wouldn't got old boy who Oh CP Oh Clifford. Mm-hmm
You know, I quit Clifford over there. We don't never live. They should have kept Jordan pool
We're gonna talk we're gonna talk all things clay and warriors in a sec
But let's keep keep it on Draymond situation for right now.
Did Nurk flop even a little bit?
That was the full force of... Nah, he got hit. You didn't watch it?
I watched it in real time.
You trying to take up for him too?
I mean, look, nobody wants to see the Warriors
downfall more than me.
Nobody wants to see the Dubs downfall more than me,
but I want it to be done fair and square.
It's not a downfall. It's a one-person
job. This is an inside job.
He connected.
I mean, get off my head.
What are we really talking about?
He hitting third options, man.
Why are we kidding?
He hitting third options, man.
He hitting Rudy. Nobody can, man.
He hitting nobody.
He's playing well. When you take will you take out the game though you get rid of your it hurts ready oh I mean they're already down Katie
Katie I plan forget go to state y'all done right we know we're gonna for sure
I agree until they make a trade Steve Steve is USA coach right yes
Draymond oh he got Draymond gotta make this team now unleash him yeah he the only
you got a problem with a euro Draymond sub boom he getting red carded right away
like a pit bull off the leash everybody beating their butt for like oh shit
when can you start trading?
I think you can start in like a couple days.
Yeah, 15th, December 15th.
A lot of guys who signed
the extension summer are eligible.
Hey, yo, do you think Draymond
is still going to be
on the Golden State Warriors
for the rest of the year?
No.
Him and Klay?
Gone, both of them.
Out of here.
Zach Levine,
bring your ass up over here.
I don't know.
DeMar, both of y'all. Nah, man, we need to. Both of y' your ass over here. Zach Levine? I don't know. Demar, both of y'all.
Nah, man, we need to-
Both of y'all come out here.
I hope so.
Do you see them both ending the season with Golden State, Klay, Andre?
That's going to have to be a Curry call right there.
I ain't even going to lie to y'all.
Backpack.
That ain't even no Dunleavy call.
That's a Curry call.
Got that backpack on, nigga. There's only one man. There's a Curry call. Got that backpack on.
There's only one man.
There's only one man.
Something has to get done, right?
So something has to get done.
I think Warriors ride this out, okay?
You want that.
Did y'all watch the game last night?
Y'all watched the game last night, right?
It looked bad.
Ride it out, though.
Was it a hit?
They'll figure it out.
No, no, just the way Steph had to carry the team.
It's just dependent on him.
So Klay, Draymond, and CP3,
they will,
so they won't finish the season
with Golden State.
Oh, CP might,
but it's like,
the way he even playing
out there with them,
it don't fit.
Bro, you got to ride this out, okay?
This team got you four championships.
I mean, you got, oh.
We believe, remember?
We still believe.
Guys, do it.
It just happened to down,
I mean, it's just a down year.
Too many moving pieces.
It's a rebuilding time. But It's a second down here, so
Let's talk. Let's talk dre this little bit more fielding after spending Draymond for five games for the go bear choke
The lead said his prior offenses increase the severity of the punishment in the past 14 months
Draymond is punches former teammate Jordan pool
Stomped on some bonuses check and just choked out, and now smacked the shit out of Nurk.
Get him.
So the highlight reel is fluid, but as of now, here are some of Draymond's career greatest
hits.
King can get it.
I forgot about the dick punch.
Boop.
Ow.
Damn.
What's up, bro?
We also got crippling on Sabonis' chest.
Natural
motion on Stephen Adams.
I ain't even had a ball.
Okay, watch out.
All in Jay Park's beard.
Watch out.
Okay, look.
Okay, I didn't mean to do that.
Try to take out Kawhi.
Come here. You're trying to help him up by throwing
him down come here come on man yeah ad back in the day and they both clutch God
don't you owe me money get off me bro. Ref right there. Come here. Austin Rivers.
I'm your sister, boy.
Straight to the 360s.
Eric Gordon.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What you say about my...
Even LeBron.
Anybody can get it.
Mexicans, Dominicans, Americans.
Dang, did he just kick?
Bosnicans.
Come on. Hey, watch out.
Damn, he fucked it up.
There's a lot of clutch dudes in this highlight reel getting it.
Hey, what?
Last finale.
Wow.
The Nurk Smack.
Come on, Rudy, come here.
Suck it up, Lou.
Told you to pass the room.
We didn't put him to sleep, though.
Give me the aux core. Thank you
so Somewhere somewhere Rasheed Wallace
So we have received we have received on the couch last week
Rasheed said this is the o4 piss' fault for being a negative influence on Draymond. Draymond is inching ever so closer to Rasheed's career ejection records,
which Rasheed fully supports.
But in this latest situation, you got five games for the Gobert choke.
Obviously, we never want to hate on another man or their money,
but do you expect the league to give Draymond a lengthy suspension for this incident?
Look, clothesline, two to five games.
No way.
Way more.
He did five games, came back for six.
Ten.
Ten games for that?
Yeah, that's for that.
Nah, I mean, he got ten for, I mean, five for this.
This one was like, it was in play, so it was kind of like a...
Ten of them.
Nah, no way.
Ten of them.
Ten, hell nah. I i mean if you give me 10
games we just for the whole year then look you just got out of jail we just got you just got
out of jail you just got out of jail you went down to the park you knocked the nigga out and
you went back but i just explained what happened what we doing i just explained what happened
don't matter you in jail what i'm saying the other one was obvious like the other one was
obvious how do you justify it yeah how do you go back up to the judge and the judge not saying so
you're back again no what i'm saying is how it ain't even been through weeks but how do you justify it? Yeah. How do you go back up to the judge and the judge not saying, so you back again?
No what I'm saying is how do you- It ain't even been two weeks.
How do you justify, but what I'm saying is if the choke around the world, you held it
for two, three minutes, got you five games, how do you say this is 10?
Right.
Because he punched the nigga.
He was holding my hip and I- I don't want to hear all that.
No, I'm saying that was a better
He blatantly choking like this one was like
I
Would say it's a lesson in fraction right just because of what it is when I'm saying is more because it's consecutive
Back to back like six games six games later. Are you back here again?
Hey game this little bit at bad straight line or straight mom my man what that's right mine
He can't justify 1.6 million
Worked work that that is not worth 1.6 million tank a hit crazy you miss he lost for fun what is five games what
what games is 800,000 what is worth 1.6 what is huh what is worth it that's a
straight one of those 1970s 80s brawl you got like what it is right under the
tongue like this open-handed yeah but this was like yeah I mean what did you
say three games it's like two like yeah we're three to five So then after these three, I agree he do three after these three he come back
Here we go again
Let's let's let's be real
This is the most exciting thing that's going on and goes
I mean, this is be honest. It is entertaining. I will say that. Did y'all see the bench react when he did it?
Like they didn't, no one moved. But Trace Jackson was like, what the fuck?
Everybody just sat there like, oh shit. They didn't even see if the nigga was okay or nothing.
No one moved to even see if Nerf was okay. They. No one moved even see if they're just like, oh shit
He got he got it. He said he's gonna get him
He made sense to though. Remember he said cuz you know, there's a rule against flopping you get fined for flopping, right?
And he's like I can't flop. I
Can't floss. Oh, I got a flop my hands and my arms
Just next time close your eyes dream on Ma I mean two to three games he
apologized that's what I'm saying two to three it's a different type of
fragrant flower that other one he didn't know huh no he meant that on the stomp
the stomp he's grabbing my legs stomp on his ass it's fucking if he I mean I can
see them trying to give them ten games. 10 games? They'll try.
10 games is enough.
10 games is enough.
But what's that group called again?
The WB boys?
The NBA.
The NBA.
The NBA.
The MPPA.
The MPPA.
Right, them.
Because I know they wasn't around when I needed them, so I don't need to know their names.
The NAACP.
Tell them why you mad, Gil.
They ain't ever really.
Get them on the arena.
They ain't ever really around. Because they array never really around cuz they not worth shit
Well, we did to y'all make the Union the Union ain't worth shit, you know when you was trying to do the
Okay, we trying to all bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah them. Oh, yeah, that's all they're not worth because yeah
Okay, let's supposed to have our backs, but they don't I guess they're no my I guess they know my name on the email
No, no, no imagine this is this real shit
If you're Adam, okay, David Stern
Why would you go to war?
With an entity you don't have no control of so whoever is running that is always gonna be
on the side with the
With the Commissioner, yep
That's why they always shook hands.
Yeah, you're going to always be.
I'm going to always, I'm going to, he's going to always be a double agent, no matter what.
I don't give a fuck who it is.
I don't give a fuck what they say.
Yep.
There's a reason that those guys always got these great jobs after they're done playing.
It's not skill related, Gil?
Yeah, it's skill related.
It's one of my snitches.
You just going like, come on, like you, it's the end of this. This is the business. Girl-related girl? No. Yeah. It's girl-related. It's one of my snitches.
You just going like, come on, like you, it's the end of it.
This is the business.
So I'm never going to go into something not knowing the outcome.
So if you are on the other side, I'm going to make you a deal.
Hey, you know, when we done, I need you to get these boys to do this and do that and
do that.
It's going to always be a little crooked.
It's always favoring.
Yep.
Picking the cotton.
So I don't know that.
Picking the cotton.
Yeah, picking the cotton.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Picking the cotton. So I don't know that. Picking the cotton. Picking the cotton.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you out that sun. I know it's hot.
Boss, he ain't working. He ain't moving.
So, New York City's
New York City's say it's hot.
Boss, he ain't working.
He say it's hot. We're going to expand our audio clip.
I'm tired.
So,
Shia, you're somewhere in the 10 game range. I'm just going to
read off the Warriors' next
10 games. Tell me if you hear anything interesting.
So, at Clippers, first nets on Saturday.
Sunday, at Portland.
Tuesday, Celtics at home.
Friday, right before Christmas, Washington Wizards.
On national TV.
Did anybody play for the Wizards?
Woo!
He going to be back.
He might be ducking.
They're going to give him three games.
They got to let him back for that?
You got to.
Portland, Denver, Miami, Dallas, Orlando.
But the Wizards are that fifth game.
So give him
four so we can see.
He got to play against four.
Wait, where is it? In Golden State?
It is in the San Francisco area.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We got to see the Bulls.
We got to see the Bulls and Jerry Maughan.
For sure.
2K already manifested it.
Yes.
That's going to be nasty work right there.
He's going to get kicked out again.
That's going to be some nasty work.
He's going to get kicked out again, man.
No, he ain't.
We need that.
We need that action.
That's nasty work.
I ain't going to lie.
It'd be funny as hell if he just flinched at him
Oh fucking with Jordan pool with that flinch, you know fucking because I know about Jordan Poole. I mean, oh! He already doing that. I know how to do it.
He already do that. He's got me.
He's got me.
Nah, Jordan Poole.
Steph better look out.
It's on and popping.
Nah.
I smell that popcorn as soon as we hit the rim.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Where you at?
You want to say you got a Christmas game?
At the Nuggets.
At the Nuggets.
On ABC.
Damn, man.
They might.
Listen, they might. Listen, they might.
No, no, it's getting rough for them.
Because by Christmas.
I mean, just even looking at that schedule, that looks like.
Boston at home?
They can go two and three.
Not an Ophel, right?
Nah.
Nah, they're going to beat Portland.
But Draymond's been the heart.
But maybe not. And Simon's been out here putting in work. Draymond's been the heart. But maybe not.
And Simon's been out here putting in work.
Draymond's been the heart of the Warriors' dynasty,
but he's also a habitual line crosser.
So the Warriors have always had his back through these various incidents.
They even gave him $100 million this offseason after the pool punch
and Sabonis stomp.
This one seems obviously a little bit harder to defend.
At what point do the Warriors say enough is enough,
or do they keep taking the good with the bad with Draymond?
I mean, it was the 22 games they've been playing so far.
He's missed, what, five?
Kicked out two, so that's seven.
Oof.
Oof, bro.
I mean, but at the end of the day,
you're paying for what he's giving you.
Right? He's paying for when he's giving you.
Right?
He's paying.
When Dennis Rodman was with them, when the bad boys had their teams, right?
When you have these certain type of personalities, you're paying for that.
Right?
I'm pretty sure it's in their calculation.
Okay, he's going to be out about 16 to 20 games.
Right? He don't need no management. He don't need he'll need no here and listen he'll need uh what's in
a management he'll need no management but uh time management whatever game
management so so what's the PTR what no he don't need that he don't get it
through switch it he's the only one that's gonna get load management without
pain and I think it actually helps the Warriors with the luxury taxes.
He doesn't get paid for those games, so I think it doesn't count against him.
They're saving some bread.
So Joe Laker probably like, go have at it.
Who else you want to choke?
I mean, I don't know, man.
Go to state, got to make a decision, man.
I mean, who's the only player that's safe?
Like, who's the safe players right now in going to state that's safe?
You know, there's one man.
Safe from his hands?
Safe from his hands?
I mean, no, just safe from like, you know there's one man safe safe from his hands safe from his I mean no just safe from like you know staying there Curry and think about it that's about it like who is safe
right now for them you know there's one man on that roster that Curry and Dre
you think Dre's Dre's untouchable all right Curry and Dre Curry and Dre is only like that's the only
two that's like...
I mean, if Golden State...
I'm not keeping the kid with four felonies, man.
He's the kid with four felonies that can't go on a field trip with us
because he always in trouble.
Always in fucking trouble.
We know what you're going to do when you leave the house and no, no.
But when shit pop off, he stay positive.
He right there with you.
He cool now. He a cool motherfucker, but he just always getting us in trouble.
We can't take him.
Yo, would you get rid of everybody?
You got to.
Except for-
Start over?
Not Steph.
That's a hard pill to swallow.
No, I'm just-
Myers could have, but he wouldn't have done it.
If you're Mike Dunleavy, right, and you just got this position, you got to do a ruthless
move. You got to do
Some bow like shit
So like rid of so I'm just asked no
I'm just asking like would you like where they are now and where it's going where it's headed where we see where it's headed
I mean, would you just start all over? Yes
Yeah, I mean because the value because the value of what everybody has I'm just saying or I mean
You know or you just keep 30 and then you just like let them just know I finish off my cold
Just like fucking but what keep 30 ever more years everybody else go do you do you have?
The problem is do you have?
The wiggle room the rope to do that from the owner
With the luxury tax. No, do you have the rope to tear this team up
and start over
and we might be down
for another 15 years?
Do you even have that luxury?
You keep that one piece
that can give you
at least five-year cushion,
which is Steph,
give you a five-year cushion
to build.
So you keep Steph to build.
I'm going to keep Steph,
Dre,
Kaminga,
Looney,
and I'll somehow try
to package
Clay and Wiggins.
Like I said, Clay, Wiggins, Kaminga, Looney, and I'll somehow try to package Klay and Wiggins. Like I said, Klay, Wiggins, Kaminga, and I can bring in, let's just say I bring in Paul George.
And Kawhi Leonard.
And Kawhi Leonard.
Right there, right?
Steph, Kawhi.
No, no.
With Draymond.
I like that.
I fucking got me a motherfucking championship team again.
No, I like that.
I think it's so much more.
But that's a woofer.
No, you came on all valuable pieces.
Kaminga's a valuable
up-and-coming piece.
Draymond's a fossilized
antique piece
that you can get
some shit for.
Like, you can get
some shit for both of them
and the rest of the roster.
You can build
a whole new team
under Steph
with some draft picks
for the next six years.
That's what I'm saying.
Draft.
You would have to
go there, bro.
And you would have to
go out there and see what you can get for these pieces.
You can get three pieces for Dre.
What type of pieces are you going to get?
You can get team players.
Huh?
Team players.
Oh, you need a team first.
You ain't got a team yet.
That's what I'm saying.
You use them to build a team.
What team?
The team around Steph.
You build off of the value assets.
You need a star.
You got Kaminga, you got You got clay you got fucking Draymond
Those are three pieces that you start to say how we build around again what you're gonna get for who's gonna get what I'm saying
We're gonna get what for what here's the situation though clay free agent after this season
So also be occur to up, right?
Yeah, but clay so clay you got to make a move by the deadline if you're gonna do that or he could just dip
You do have PG and choir that are both gonna be free agents this offseason so in theory one of them could just be like I'm gonna get both of them I'm
going for both I'm gonna say I'm gonna be you telling me like if if if if
curry one with yeah we have curry one with clay injured clay and Wiggins both
what do I what about what am I getting with quiet Leonard and PG if I can sign
him as a free agent y'all just told me not leaving LA who said it right down the street. It's Cali. So there's a real down the street
I mean, yeah, I mean
Money the money the money just is up over here. No
Say what I want to get into up here in Oakland take less bread
We gave you some of these tech play and then I can keep you and then with them with Kawhi them and all that
I keep Dre, which is to guard heavy go say it always been guard heavy
Yeah, but they was able to offset that with just Steph being able to show.
No, no.
Hold on.
I'm getting rid of Clay and Wiggins for Paul, George, and Kawhi.
Is that realistic, though?
Is that real?
Something else got to go with that.
That's not the same.
Something else got to go, though.
They got to give something.
I'll throw a Kaminga. Did you say That's not gonna go though. Hey, they gotta give something I'll throw it. I'll give a coming to say
That's the same
It's exactly it's the same but better. I don't know right again say to compare. It's the same but bet
Kawhi PG uh-huh and who and who clay and clay and Wiggins and that's the same are they to say no
Who's better fucking PG and Kawhi, obviously.
Duh!
So now I have...
It don't make sense.
Curry, Wiggins, I mean, Curry, Wiggins is out.
PG.
It don't make sense for the Clippers to get rid of them two for them.
I don't need to trade their free agents.
We can add more pieces.
But, Gil, the problem is...
We can add more pieces to that.
Clay plays off the books now if you don't give him a new deal.
So you got to make a move with Clay by February.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, it don't make sense.
I don't have to do nothing.
I can let him go.
For nothing?
What do I?
If he's going to be a free agent, Paul, George, and Kawhi, I can let them go.
You can let Clay go and get one of those two.
I don't have to.
But that's not even saying them two and them two.
It's called the upgrade.
If I'm going to say I'm trying to upgrade to win the championship while 30 is still good.
And you're trying to do it in free agency.
Not in a trade.
If it comes down.
The only person I'm trading will be, if I got a trade. I'm gonna trade cominga
cominga Wiggins
Cominga and Wiggins or the only tradable pieces coming in Wiggins
And a lottery pick booty everything throw in Moody throw in Moody and try to get one of them Clippers
Shit again, I need to upgrade I think I'll wear it in enough
They didn't win enough. How did I want a championship with?
Wasn't even trying to move none of that shit for James Martin What I'm gonna move none of them a what I'm saying is I won a championship with
Wiggins and clay if I take them and put Paul George and Kawhi and I got for trade though
You saw my for a trade free it to free agents. All right, so I'm not saying now. I'm just playing chess free agency
it makes sense you also got cp3 with a
This you make a 30 million next year. He's making like 31. You trade him. I can treat him
I'm just answer you have back to the club. I'm saying so they got they got my thesis. That's what I'm saying
Go ahead. I mean go to the side and we get here. Here you go
But I think that clippers ain't winning in any fucking way. So you got to as well do something.
That's what I'm saying.
Bomber got too many studs where...
The only piece that he can't trade is Russell Westbrook.
He's so cheap.
I know.
I get it.
I understand.
I mean, Golden State got to do something, though.
Yeah.
I mean, Warriors started season six and two four and eleven cents
Let's talk a little bit about clay
Their bench last night against the Sun put up an NBA season-high 80 points
But clay was benched for the final six minutes of the fourth quarter. So Shams today
Reported that the Warriors offered clay a two-year deal this offseason in the range of 48 million
No deal was taken the clay make the right decision betting on himself?
Nope.
Wait, they offered him 48 for two years?
Two years for 48.
But I think on the heels of Draymond getting the 4 for 100.
24 a year?
Yeah, it was...
That's good money.
Hmm?
24 million a year is good money. That's good money. Hmm? 24 million a year is good money.
That's good money.
It's good money, to be honest.
It's good money for him at that point in time.
Yes.
Right?
I don't think he understood that who else is going to give you that money on the body of work that you've done since you
signed that contract?
It's about what you've done since that contract.
I'm offering you $48 million off of playing 101 games out of the last five years.
Two years you missed.
One year you played what?
22 games. Yeah, one year you played 22 games, one year you played what 22 games was a 20 at one year play 22
games one year you play 69 games right we won a championship but it wasn't
really because of you but in since you signed that contract you haven't given
anything anyway so for them to offer that extension he should have thought
about it but who's his agent?
Mmm, but look what it would have done that gave him time. It would have gave him time who's Clay's agent
Greg Lawrence at Washington Yeah
It would have gave him it would have gave play time in that two-year window
To catch his momentum get through this slump and not have no pressure really on his back
And then when he catches his stride and that's, say, next year on the two-year deal, no pressure, now he can actually say, all right, I got
my stride, showcase me, get me to the next, you know, whatever.
Clay making $43 million this year. I agree with that.
It would have gave him that. Because if he signs the 48 for two, now
we don't have to worry about nothing, right? Now Clay just go play. I think the money and
not knowing what's going to happen is It's a lot of mental things.
If you play, you hear two for 48 after Dre got
four for 100, are you feeling
some type of way about that? It don't matter. Stop pocket
watching. I'm not saying from a pocket watching
point of view. Values are different.
What I'm saying is you have to
go off of what you've
put into the game. I understand you averaged
22 last year.
But there's been
338 games before this season started. You played I understand you averaged 22 last year. Yeah, right, but there's been a hunt was a
338 games before this season started you played 101, right?
You're making 40 something, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 20 million dollars 20 million dollar pay cut, right?
You've missed two hundred and something games. Real shit. You've missed years.
Real shit.
So what you've done is worth $48 million.
See, people think the contract is what you're going to be.
It's what you've done.
You averaged 22 last year and 60 since some games.
This year, as we speak right now,
Golden State is probably looking like,
fuck yeah, we dodged a yeah. We dodged a bullet.
We dodged a bullet.
He not panning out for it.
One, this year right now is the second worst point production
besides your rookie season.
Yep.
This year.
This is his worst shooting year, period.
In the league, 39%.
Yeah, 39.7%.
That's crazy.
34% from three.
34%?
34%.
This is his worst.
That's double.
That's not 39.
See, and I think, like, this is worst shooting percentage.
I think, like, a lot of us, like, we get in that position,
and I don't think we realize, like, you know,
if he does take the 48 for two, like he don't have no pressure.
And now you still have a chance to come back and get another one because you guys are always going to be in the hunt.
Like it's not like you're signing, like you're doing a two for eight for 48 for a team that's never going to be in the hunt or never going to be right there again.
So all those moments and shots and opportunities are still going gonna be there. Well, I think like if you should I think we'd be missing that if I'm showing us the championship
Clay that we know to be there ain't no pressure on him to try to prove to us that he deserved the money
And I think that's where he was playing like he had to play to deserve
That max or whatever whatever whatever that that cap was and it's like now
We hear two for 48 and he say damn you should have took that
Because that's how you've been playing.
I'm sure it was more than that.
What do you think?
Two for 50?
Like overall?
They said 48 range.
So when you probably like overall, like when he probably signed 50 something.
To be honest, if he's making 43 this year and they offered him two for 48.
How much are you averaging right now?
15.
15?
No, that gamble.
From 22 to 15.
I actually want to take that back.
That gamble's not really a gamble.
He's going to go into free agency and can get that.
Get 48, yeah.
With this year, he can go in and get two-year 48 from anyone.
So you think this offseason, Clay could go get two for 42 for 40 any yes?
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. What more than what a lemon daddy in that 54 before for 54
Rui
Yeah, but that clay could get like 50 you can play that to like 25 like
And if he and if his-o's being get 30.
Rui signed three years, 51.
Get 30.
I'm Clay.
I'm Clay.
To be honest, when I think about it now, what he did, nah, he's fine.
Because even with this right now, it's such a big drop from what he's making now, right?
Two-year for a guy that... He's giving me 15.
Like, now, if he goes the last two months of the season,
he's averaging about 25, 20.
If somehow Steph misses the rest of the season,
he starts putting in a 28, 30 production.
It don't look like it.
He gonna go two years. I don't look like it. He gonna go two
years. I don't think he will get more than
two years 65.
That's gonna be his. Right now, that's the ceiling.
The way it look right now is like he's going
downward spiral. He's spiraling.
Two year 48 is his bottom.
Also, it's early though.
It's early. What does that mean?
What does that early shit mean?
Nigga, you're not in year one.
You can't say it's early in year 17.
The year they beat Boston, I don't even think they was doing good in the beginning.
No, they was struggling.
It ain't about doing good.
It's about him and his momentum.
I don't know, man.
His momentum is fucked up right now.
You say he's in that range, but he's still in that range with the Warriors.
And if you play, where are you going to get that bag?
And do you want to go to wherever that bag is?
It don't matter because if he goes into – I think they let him go to free agency.
Right?
He's the one player right now you can allow to go to free agency, test the market.
I think two for –
Really?
And whatever the market gives you, I'll match it.
Two for 60.
Just match it.
Wait for it.
And I think right now –
I said 30. I read that two for 48. That is the bottom. And I think right now. I said 30.
I read that two for 48.
That is the bottom line.
But, okay, but if you, Clay, that's the max?
That's the max?
No, that's the bottom line.
He can't go no lower than two-year 48.
Gil, you, Clay, the Warriors tell you to do that.
Do you take that as an insult?
Like, go see if you can get somewhere else.
I'm insulted right now.
But are you insulted enough now to say, fuck y'all?
I got 30. But what are you insulted about? I'm going over here. I mean, I'm insulted that I gave you right now. Right. But are you insulted enough now to say, fuck y'all? I got 30.
But what are you insulted about?
I'm going over here.
I'm insulted that I gave you four rings.
And you ain't gave me a good offer.
Yeah, this is what you mean.
What was the offer that you would want?
If you, Clay?
Four-year 100.
I think four-year 100, four-year 120 would have been cool.
I think that's what I'm worth.
For your 125
a year?
It's just like the two-year 50, though.
It's just like the 250.
It's just like for the 250.
I mean, the body of work.
That's a commitment for us.
We've already committed to you.
I committed to you by giving you four rings.
Give us two more years.
Garden Kyrie.
But that's what I'm saying.
Some players want the longevity, the guarantee, the more stability.
So I'm confident that whatever happens in the summer, Curry can repair it.
What you mean by that?
Curry can repair it. What you mean by that? Curry can repair it.
If we ain't talking, because I done fucked up, hey, Curry, can you call him for me, man?
Curry, can you call him, man?
And you know- You talk to him.
Display, hey, Splash Brother, I need you to talk to your other brother.
Yeah.
Right?
And Curry- But if you Steph now, and you looking at-
I don't want to deal with that. Year 15, my own, I'm seeing what Bron and them doing.
I'm seeing what Giannis got over there.
I'm seeing what's going on around the league.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's do something, bro.
I ain't called Tyrone.
They're going to leave Steph out here like Kobe them last five, seven years.
And then we just going to have his last game.
They got to do something.
They got to do something.
Mike Dunleavy got a
Fucking ball game step ruthless definitely great in Ladera Heights
Right down a lot of people don't have that that leeway me being a general manager
That's not the only person who could have made the moves that we're talking about is Myers
Because he already won this that what he's done. Yeah has shown that he he's making smart moves, right?
He has four rings. He's done everything he possibly can so if he says oh, it's time to break it up
The fan base won't challenge it right don't leave me coming in
Everything he does right now is gonna be all not. This is dumb
right, and I don't think he has a leeway or
the time
to see
if it actually works. So if he gets rid
of Draymond, if he gets rid of
Klay, this city going to turn.
And if it don't turn to wins that next year,
that's the point. Like, Randy, you
said you need a ruthless move,
but that move might make him hated by fans.
So what? In the short term. I have a job.
If it's a long-term success.
I got a job.
It's my job.
It ain't going to be fair.
It's the owner.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's the owner.
It's the relationship with the owner.
The money's too up for me to get fired.
Listen, y'all put me in this position.
Now, Mike, go do your thing.
Mike, shit, this is what you signed me up to do, right?
Shake some shit up, man.
I'm going to shake some shit up.
Hey, let me ask you this.
So would you would have took care of Clay before Dre?
Since you said he should have got 120 for four.
Who does it look like you need the most right now?
Who does it look like you need the most right now?
The most right now?
You got one getting benched and one getting suspended.
The one I need the most right now is Clay.
And that's who you should have been. And the reason I need that, because it frees up everything.
It even actually makes Dre play better.
Okay, so that fucked up everything.
That fucked up everything.
So that's what happened.
Clay feels, I think Clay feels, they should have took care of me before Dre.
Talk about it.
No, that's 1,000%.
Talk about it.
1,000%.
Talk about it.
So that's the whole thing then.
So that's why, that's his issue000%. Talk about it. 1,000%. Yeah. Talk about it. So that's the whole thing then. So that's why.
That's his issue.
They was handicapped from the beginning.
They was handicapped with Poole.
Yep.
They was handicapped with Poole.
They made some really bad moves.
The moves they were making before.
And I think Myers, that's why he left.
He know he fucked up.
Yeah.
I'm about to say.
Because if I'm Clay, I don't give a fuck about that Jordan pool shit
Where my brother yeah, where's my shit like so he probably feel like you know on some low-key like some Scottie Pippen shit They dropped the ball on my balls this Scottie Pippen. Yeah, well, I mean let's just be real biggest victim in this whole situation
Steph Curry, you know Steph generational maybe the greatest point guard of all time
But Steph looking around, and he just sees, you know,
a team in Southern California that just won the NBA Cup World Championship.
You're trying to get him to L.A. so bad.
Having some point guard issues as well.
That purple and gold really look nice.
I don't see, I personally don't see Steph leaving because.
I don't think he'll ever leave.
Because Magic, the guy that he's compared to, it's one city.
It's one city and that's where he's going to leave his legacy.
But it's our Southwest. But the problem that I said that Clay didn't get better and he didn't upgrade his car.
He didn't upgrade.
He came in with a Ferrari and it's been the same Ferrari. People
don't really understand when they be like, well, he got four championships. Cool. Does
those four championships help his ass today? See, if he would have upgraded them wheels,
he would have upgraded the brakes, put a little fender in the back for the win Right when curry came in he couldn't he couldn't dribble like he does now
He couldn't finish like if you go look at his weaknesses when he came into the NBA
Those are not Steph weaknesses today, right? So that means he upgraded his vehicle
So he can last longer if if clay came back with dribbling skills
He don't have this this problem right now the fact that people know you have a bad hoof
Right you do have a bad. It's not 100%
There's never gonna be 100% if I ball this paper right now
It would never be it would never be to say no matter how much I iron that shit it'll never be the same
so he has a bad hoof and
To equal that out you
needed to put some more skills into your game right put some more let me back you
up a little bit ah that's what that's what helps stuff that dribbling like he
bought to go somewhere yo ass backing up who right and the fact that he didn't
add anything to his game is what's hurting him today when he needs it the most
You think anybody ever tell him that?
No, no, no, no, no
No
No one when you tell someone when you tell someone that they need to get better you should
You know with Greek when I said greeny to me what they throw well, he got four championships
Well, they they're so used to people saying, you find the way you are because you're winning.
Right?
What he was doing, he was a master at shooting in the two-way.
But at the end of the day, you got to add.
But this is all our expectation of what we see them to be.
It's not who they see themselves to be.
We ask more than what we see from people.
We expect them to be a certain kind of way.
Look, we see more in you than you've given us.
Can you please be this way?
No, the reason why people talk like that is because they've seen other people actually do it.
So that's why.
We want people to be who we've seen or who we expect or who we, the potential that they have.
But they don't actually do it the way we see it.
And that's why we end up looking at that shit like the way we're looking at it,
like this nigga never going to be who we want him to be
because we see the potential of them being a certain way
and they just don't hit it.
They just don't hit it.
No one hits it because they're satisfied with where they are.
They don't see what we see.
No, people are content.
No, they're content.
Because look, if you perform, right, let's say,
you don't get to see you the way I see you
when you're performing.
This is in real time, so you don't
get to enjoy watching you play.
You got to go home and re-watch that shit
on the camera. We don't get to see what
the people see.
And the guys don't get to see what we see.
So when we give our perspective and our
expectation of what they do and how we want them to be, they don't get it because they don't see what we see. So when we give our perspective and our expectation of what they do and how we want them to be,
they don't get it because they don't see what we see.
And we can't explain it to them like, my nigga, if you just do this drop step this way one time,
I swear to God, it's open.
And it's like no matter how much we show them, they can't see it the way we see it.
No, no, the people who see it are called greats.
That's the difference.
The people who see it are called greats. That's the difference. The people who see it are called greats.
When they told Steph, like,
Steph didn't prove anybody wrong.
Whatever his weaknesses or whatever his profile,
draft profile was at that moment in time,
they were right.
They were right.
How?
Because that's what he was at that moment in time.
He looked at it and said,
Oh, I need to upgrade my engines.
I do not want to be this. So he took this. Oh, I can't dribble. I can't do this.
That was the first thing I heard Steph was working on, his ball handling.
They said, man, this man spends hours working on his ball handling. He didn't like his profile.
Right. So he didn't prove nobody wrong
He just was smart enough to look at the critique and say alright
Let me if this is how I this how good I am now and I add this right here. Oh shit
But that's what I'm one of the grit now one called one of the greatest even with the critique is coming from a it's coming
From a place that doesn't understand that he already had these skill sets. He already was a ball handler.
He was already all of these things.
He just wasn't them in these aspects of the next level.
He wasn't that in college.
He wasn't that in the NBA because they hadn't gotten there.
Once he got there, he didn't have no discrepancies in his game.
Steph didn't have no discrepancies in his game.
He couldn't finish well.
He couldn't go to state.
He wasn't even starting.
What are you talking about?
Steph didn't have no discrepancy
He just needed opportunity and repetition, but the problem no no no no no no if you ask if you know if you were non shooter
The only thing that was stopping Steph from being prime time was his ankles. No, it wasn't his game
He wasn't like all he needed to upgrade his game. The nigga had the package. He had everything in half. I remember
Yes, we remember I do too and the nigga had the whole thing
He can shoot he didn't he didn't dribble like he's dribbling now. He didn't finish
Your 15 or something it's been 15 years, of course, he's gonna be dribbling better
But he didn't it wasn't like Oh Steph needs to get in the lab and dribble
He was a point guard all his life. He did he did. He was dribbling the way...
He had been doing... Him and CP are the same guys.
They come from Carolina. I know these guys.
They're the same guy when it comes to training.
They're the typical point guards that train just like
Steve Nash and all those guys.
They don't train the same.
They don't train the same.
They don't train the same.
I'm telling you, when...
You know what I called him?
I called that man when he was coming.
I said, oh, he's just a better J.J. Redick.
Ooh.
Steph?
Yeah.
Bro, stop.
Don't say that out loud.
That was your...
My boy...
That was your analysis of Steph Curry coming out of college?
Yes.
My boy, T. Mills, Tracy Mills, said,
you crazy.
He spent this whole summer working on his ball handling.
What you about to see won't be no J.J. Reddick.
Right?
He said he's been the whole summer not shooting nothing.
He's worked on his ball handling.
Who told you that?
Tracy Mills.
He's a liar.
Capper. He's a capper. That he wasn't working on his ball handling? He's a that? Tracy Mills. He's a liar. Capper.
He's a capper.
That he wasn't working on his ball handling?
He's a capper, man.
That is a capper.
Capper, man.
He wasn't working on his ball handling?
But these stories sound good over campfire.
Tracy Mills said that?
This shit sounds good as hell over campfire, boy.
No, I said he was J.J. Reddick.
He said, no, he's not.
He said he's working on his ball handling.
He's about to be something different.
And this is no shade to J.J. Reddick.
Everybody remembers J.J. Reddick. Everybody remembers J.J.
But what I'm saying is
what games was he watching?
He was nice though. He was nowhere near like a
nothing like a J.J. Reddick. I didn't watch
JV. I just seen the motherfucking highlight
of J.J. Reddick. That was me.
Being ignorant.
At least you acknowledged. That's the most important. I called
Greek the Freak. I said, oh yeah, he gonna be
Karolinko.
Fuck up. Fuck up. I mean Greek the Freak. I said, oh yeah, he gonna be Karolinko. Fuck up.
Fuck up.
I mean, in the beginning, because that's what you see.
But that's not who he is
now, because he's worked on his game.
Klay is the same. Whatever
his scouting report was, his rookie
season is the same scouting report
now. You think so? Yes.
But that's the, like
I said, it's the expectation we putting on.
I expected him, if he's
a shooter, he came in like, you gonna be
a shooter. That's what you was there for.
You're content with the behavior. I'm not content.
But that's what
he, that's what he's hit. He was, came in
as a dead-eye shooter. He didn't have no expectation.
Washington State, he wasn't coming in
like, oh, you're
Grady Dick from Toronto or one of them.
It was Clay, hey, surprises.
Get in where you fit in.
Capono style.
Steve Novak.
Oh, you got it.
Cool.
A lot of players.
Why would I?
But I'm saying.
I'm not saying that he should be content with that.
Why would you want to be content with that when you can just upgrade?
Because that's the way the position goes.
As a shooter, you don't need to. You always going to have a job if you can shoot upgrade. Because that's the way the position goes. As a shooter, you don't need
to, you always going to have a job if you
can shoot. I can always, I don't
want a motherfucking job.
Steph Curry didn't want a job. I want
to be, I want to be the best player
ever. That's the difference of
mindset. Is that what Clay's supposed to be?
That's the difference between Greek to Freak.
I don't want to be this dude. Kobe
said I can win MVP.
So I'm going to go into the lab and do whatever I can take to be the MVP.
And then did it.
That's why he went to the game.
Like some people are not content with just being,
I'm cool with just being this two-way player that can just shoot and D.
You don't want to dribble.
You don't want to do no step.
You don't want to add nothing to the.
Basically, he's like, you're not going to give me credit anyway
if I was to do all that shit anyway.
You're just going to still
find some shit to critique me on. It don't matter.
You're still something. I don't step back
the right way. I don't
duck the right way. I can't bob in the weave
in the right way. You're not giving me no fucking
credit no more. If your favorite
player has been in the league
more than three years
and he couldn't shoot
and he still can't shoot,
he's content at what he's doing.
Can LeBron shoot?
Yeah.
Shooting very well from three.
Yeah.
He was actually never a bad shooter.
MVP LeBron.
I just asked a question, man.
NBA Cup World Champion.
Uh-huh.
They said J.K.
They said J.K. can shoot
or you start shooting the fuck out that ball. At the last year. Slowhuh. Yeah, he... They said J.K. He'll look at it with you.
They said J.K.
couldn't shoot it.
You start shooting the fuck out that boy.
At the last year.
Slow down, yeah.
But I'm saying...
You hear that, man?
I say so quick to...
Oh, I know every...
Oh, no.
I came in with Jason Richardson, right?
Jason Richardson couldn't shoot a gun.
Oh, so J.K.
couldn't shoot a gun.
He couldn't shoot a gun.
You put it in his hand.
He don't know.
You put it in his hand.
He was so upset people was at the free throw line guarding him.
When we got into the summer, he said, yo, Gil, what do I got to do?
I said, man, just get on the gun.
I never, I shot the shooting gun.
I never knew the motherfucker went to zero, zero, zero.
I never knew. I never shot a thousand straight shots before he was shooting so much on that that it flipped over
Well shit
And then he became one of the best three-point shooters a dude who so I've seen when someone says yo
I don't want to beat us no more. Mm-hmm. So you can't tell me that some of y'all that can't shoot
and you still can't shoot,
you can't dribble?
The fuck else are you doing?
When someone says,
oh, KG said his last lie,
I've never seen Gilbert
turn it over.
Like, he went from this to that.
Because I was in a fucking lab
every day.
You want to go home
and play video games
and do all that shit with your friends and shit?
Cool.
So niggas need to set more screens in their spare time.
Niggas need to go into the gym,
treat like a nine to five,
not an hour to two hours.
Everybody can't take shots.
Everybody can't shoot.
An hour to two hours.
No, no, everybody can't shoot
until your ass start working on it.
I was a...
Y'all ain't going to never convince me. I was the 15th man on the team
By the end of the season i'm starting five
By the second season i'm the second option and the first option last five minutes
You you're not gonna tell me that oh, there ain't enough shots. Ain't this I know one thing I did do
Shoot, I outworked everybody
I wasn't content with 15 I know one thing I did do. Shoot. I outworked everybody.
I wasn't content with 15.
So you're telling me,
you're telling me Clay can't spend his time,
he's watching 30 do the drills.
When did we see him do the drills?
It don't work like that, Gil.
You projecting your work ethic on him.
You keep doing that to everybody. I got 30.
Keep doing that to everybody.
30 right there.
He not you.
He not you.
He not them.
He him.
30 with the JV.
It is kind of interesting, though, just because it's like, yo, you got to think about the people who came through Golden State.
You got KD up in there for, what, two or three years.
I'm sure KD picked up something different that he
didn't do like you know i don't know i guess i mean but a lot of players are content man but
that's exactly like a lot of people are content just in life in general four rings like it's easy
like you say i got four when it's hard i know it's hard for him this nigga i got four rings
it's gonna always be his trump card when you're to get better, you can't have no trump card.
You got to be able to absorb information.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
And you got to be uncomfortable.
I hear y'all.
Sound good.
That was a ball.
No, I mean, it's proven, though.
When you win, when you reach the top of the mountain, right,
do you have to go down the mountain, right? Do you have to go
down the mountain to come back up a different mountain? Yeah. All right. So once you get up
that first mountain, you're like, I fucking did it. You go down and you're like, all right,
I got to go do this again. You do it again. Like every time you get to the top, it's like, yeah,
nobody better than me. So for Clay, it's like, where does the growth need to be if I'm always reaching the top of the mountain?
But you guys haven't been reaching the top of the mountain.
That's why he's always doing this.
Look, this is why he's doing this.
He's saying, I've done this four times.
Where does my growth need to happen?
Do it four more times.
Do it four more times. Do it four more times.
What are we talking about?
That's what I'm saying.
So I'm asking y'all a question.
If I'm Clay and I'm at, where does my growth need to come where I can't win doing the same thing I've been doing?
Right now, you can't win doing it.
You're struggling doing the same thing.
We need the other things that helped us win those other chips for us to continue.
We can't win with anything less than what we had before.
So if I'm Clay and y'all saying that I'm doing less,
it's not because my performance.
It's because we have less.
We have less.
No, we have the same.
It's now less.
It's outdated.
It's not the same.
Your dribble, pull-up, jump shot is outdated. Our team is not the same.
Our talent pool is not the same.
Hey, man.
It's not the same. I didn't need to do all all that. I didn't need to do all of those things
I know what's that dude on the team name his arm his name is
Slick curry, right? Yeah
It's curry, right? Yes, Steph Curry
That's right curry, right? Yeah
Since his first championship
To now he's a whole different man.
His attitude different, swag different, performance different, weight different.
He's a different breed of a man.
Every year, he has shown you something different, shown you a better product.
So you can't tell me as option two two You can't give me a better product
You I can he's so my option one every time we pull up this man there you pull up
Where you get them breaks at now?
Will you get your breaks at and he looking at you like yeah, you're still squeaky my man
I'm saving my
Count my dollars
Now you see why be I personally now see why y'all be on 80 head though
But I'm looking for the up like I'm having I mean it's the same type of situation Yeah, if we're talking about it like I'm same type of situation
You can't come in here with the same because you guys have this high hope for like 80 right?
Mm-hmm. He doesn't do time. Y'all have the highest hopes.
I mean, hey, hey.
Steph Curry got the iPhone 15 Pro Max.
Clay is on iPhone 8 still.
Okay?
Your iPhone 8 is a good iPhone.
It's a good iPhone.
But it's seven iPhones too motherfucking late, okay?
Update your shit is all I'm saying.
Similar functionality. Yeah, man. Clay is shit is all I'm saying. Similar functionality.
Yeah, man.
Clay's going to be all right, man.
Clay's going to be all right, man.
Listen, that's my point.
Clay just got the same fucking phone.
Clay's going to be all right, man.
It's the same functionality.
It ain't nothing different about the phone.
Clay's going to be all right.
No, nothing.
No whole button.
No nothing.
And nothing different but the quality.
Clay's going to be all right.
The quality is different.
Uh-huh.
Kirby's quality is a lot better right now than Clay's is all I'm saying.
Upgrade your phone and go on and keep doing your thing.
What's the deal between a 4.0 and a 4.0?
He's just in a slump, bro.
He's just in a slump, bro.
Clay's going to be all right.
He's just in a slump.
It's early.
It's early.
Let's keep this thing moving. I think we slump, bro. He's just in a slump, bro. Clay's going to be all right. He's just in a slump. It's early. It's early.
We're still rocking with Clay.
It's early.
Let's keep this thing moving.
I think we talked enough Warriors.
Steph, you find it in your heart, come to the Lakers, man.
I think, obviously, for your legacy, you want to stay with Golden State.
You're getting and begging a lot lately.
You've been begging.
Y'all just came off the championship.
You're over here begging for another player.
You're begging for another player already.
You just won.
Because we're trying to add to the team.
Damn. We're not contending. We're not contending. You're not? We're not contending. Begging for another player already you just won
Try to upgrade already
Let's talk about the NBA Cup world champion Los Angeles you had to imagine there was going to be a hangover, you know, winning their A-team championship,
LeBron winning his fifth championship, MVP, fifth title. We saw that last night against the Mavs in Dallas. That's a lot, man. Lakers pulled up, you know, fresh off. I told you.
Mavs run the second night of it back-to-back. Didn't have Kyrie, but nonetheless, Luka,
yeah, I know. It was unfortunate, I'll just say that.
Luka did what Luka does. 33 points, 17 assists. We gotta talk about Dante Exum, too. Dante Exum is
7-3, 26 points. LeBron, you mentioned AD. He said he was consistent, inconsistent, but he's been
doing his thing, man. AD had 37 and 11. LeBron had 33, 8 rebounds, 9
assists. Lakers ended up
losing by 2.
Look at that.
Look at this pass.
Right to Dante.
Wow. That's an X of 26
points. Career-high
three-pointer. Woo!
I can do it, too.
I can do it, too. I can do it, too.
And Gil, you talk about adding to your toolbox, adding to your game.
LeBron, you're 21.
Still finding ways to get better.
Still finding ways to be consistent.
He's not content.
No real drop-off.
Not content.
But let's talk about Luka.
Luka's been criticized.
Luka's been criticized in years past for his body and conditioning.
Appears to be in great shape. They say best shape since his rookie year.
Currently playing a high-tempo offense.
Career-high minutes per game.
Average is similar to last season.
But what has Luke shown you so far this year?
He's nice, man.
I mean, there's just some dudes out there, man, you just be like, man, he's nice.
He's nice, man. You just be like man. He's nice He's nice man. He just gets it done
Just hanging niggas from a tree
He bringing America back to work.
Let me show you something boy.
Come over here.
I was thinking that before I watch this Laker game,
Sundown Luka, who do I bet on?
Somebody say man you want to watch a nigga kick a nigga.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who do I bet on?
Like damn, I'm going to bet.
Like he going to tell it like Like, hey, Torrin Prince.
Torrin Prince, he was out there cooking.
He made LeBron do a 360.
LeBron, 21.
You're 21, fresh off the NBA. He's confused.
He's out there confused.
He bringing back racism.
Come here.
No, they got somebody out there.
They got a slave.
That's the new bird.
Luka, Negro tendencies.
That's the new bird.
Luka, well-documented Negro tendencies.
Got the chance to interview Tim Hardaway Jr.
He confirmed it.
Round him up.
He was like Jim Crow out there, mother.
Round him up.
Round him up.
Brains, hot sauce, hog maws.
Y'all don't be hearing Luca.
Y'all don't be hearing him under his breath, boy.
No.
Embraced.
Got me another one.
Highly embraced by the black community in Dallas.
Negro tendencies.
He out there cooking them boys.
Hooker, Donchick.
You know.
No, man, but I'm happy for Dallas in them.
They're playing well.
Playing well, man.
Lucas playing well.
Hopefully Kyrie.
Kyrie's hurt right now, right?
Kyrie's hurt right now, so hopefully he come back and they can get a cracking.
But, you know. What is Kyrie going to bring us? Huh? I mean gonna do what he do
Come on. Come on. Don't do that. No, don't
Don't do that. I'm asking y'all questions. Stop feeling so attacked and triggered. I'm just okay. We like Kairi All right, what is he supposed to do? We come back 23
All right, Kairi this season is averaging 23 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds.
He's played 17 games.
He's looking like that nice, solid second option.
It's a bucket regardless, though.
It's always going to be a bucket, so just know that.
Luka in his last five games is becoming a girl dad.
35 points per game, 12.4 assists.
And the thing, like I said, the knock used to be,
his defense obviously still, you know, he's not an elite defender,
but he's trying.
There seems to be a lot more effort, energy, activity.
Listen, if his team becomes, if he can get into the top four, he's MVP.
That's what I was going to ask you.
So all NBA last season, numbers are similar to what they were before.
Differences, Mavs were 11th last year, third now in the West, 15-8.
So, you're saying that if they finish top four in the West, that MVP is his?
I mean, you know, the last few MVPs has been year olds, but the team wasn't that good in
the sense of, when he won,
his team was sixth.
MB last year, his team was third or fourth.
If he can get himself, I mean, Westbrook won when his team was fourth.
Ain't that crazy how guys are one of the MVPs and their team number one?
I remember when your team had to be number one. And I like it
like this.
Because
the MVP is the best player in the
league. The most dominant player
in the league. Not the best player on the best team.
Huh?
The best player on the best team?
This is a conversation that we've had
before, but yeah.
I thought that's how it always was.
Most valuable player in the league. Yeah, on the best team. This is a conversation that we've had before, but yeah. How's that? I thought that's how it always works.
Most valuable player in the league.
Yeah, on the best team.
Right, so who?
On the best-
Because the best team is the most valuable team.
That's not the award, it's the most valuable player.
On the most valuable team.
So that means if I take you off your team, who's more valuable?
Y'all suck already.
And I take you off your team, y'all still going to suck.
After you're gone.
It don't matter. So what makes you an MVP if you really don't have to do nothing?
If we're the number one team and you take me off and we slide to number eight.
But you won't.
Question for you.
LeBron James, Cavs number one in the East.
LeBron leaves.
Last place.
Literally getting the first pick in the draft.
Does that show you his value if he the team
Was number one they were number one and he'd gotten MVP right for barbecue to Mildew
He didn't he didn't get MVP. No, he left just him leaving his team with the last just him
Everyone's everyone else just him left. Did he get the last year barbecue to me?
He wasn't every billion wasn't it of course. So we talked about Westbrook the year he won Thunder with the six seed in 2017
Look what he has to do think about think about
the most valuable right if
You're the best team that means you have other players
That are good too right you're gonna probably have three all-stars on your team.
The guy who's averaging
a triple-double,
he don't have no other all-stars,
so that means he has to go
120 miles an hour
just to keep up.
That means nothing about your...
You don't have to go 100.
You can go 80.
You have other dogs with you,
so you're not really
going hard anyway.
So most of the time,
if you're the best player, the year
Dirk won it, right?
The team went to the championship the year before
that. They lost to Miami.
His team
was the second best team
in the NBA.
So going into the next season
they're number two, ranked two, right?
Shack and them all got hurt.
So who's the best team?
Dallas. So them doing the best team? Dallas.
So them doing what they're supposed to do, and he averages 24?
You're not having an MVP year.
Why not?
Because that's not MVP.
Because the number?
That's not, yeah.
What are you doing?
Now you're just inflating the number.
You got to have a certain amount of number, which is the highest number,
compared to being able to play at an MVP level, which is a valuable level for your team.
Which is, if he was number two the year before, then they came back as number two again, and they win it.
That means that the most valuable player was on that number two team, and he took them to the championship.
So how is he the most valuable player in the NBAba what did he do he won the championship no they didn't win the championship they didn't
win i'm just saying if your team is pre-season number two and the number one team gets hurt that
means you're number one i don't got nothing to do with the number one team what do you do what i'm
saying is if you average if you're on the team'm saying is if you average... If you're on a team by yourself, right,
and you average 25, right,
you're not in no category of MVP.
You average 25.
And then I come, right?
You average 25, and then we're third, right?
You're not an MVP candidate.
Then we add Rashad.
You're averaging 25, right?
But we're helping you win.
You become number one.
What the fuck did you do different?
Nothing.
Your production ain't going.
You ain't doing nothing.
You're not doing.
You're adding better pieces to help you win.
Doesn't mean you're playing like an MVP.
Yes, it does.
Because just because you name him at 25 and 25 and 25 doesn't mean that his 25 is not at an MVP level it's not
yes it is because he's an MVP candidate if you're an MVP candidate you're that for why you're in
because you're winning you're winning don't because you're an MVP candidate is why you're
being an MVP candidate the winning enhances your ability to become the MVP because you are the
valuable piece that's leading the
team.
You're winning because you got better pieces on your team.
Was Bron numbers better in Miami after he left Cleveland?
Or was it kind of like the same?
The same.
The same?
The same.
If not less.
And he should have won MVP?
If not less.
But that's what I'm saying.
If not less.
Like when Kobe averaged that 30-something, right? Yeah.
His team was trash.
He did everything he could have done
and got them to eighth spot.
That's an MVP.
Y'all put this, they put the team,
they said this team might come in last place.
And they made it to the playoffs.
That's MVP.
Steve Nash,
your team was number one.
His first one, that first year, yes.
The team the year before was trash. He just added
him. They won 62 games.
Right?
MVP. The next year, they
won 55 games. How are you
MVP? Because everyone thought
y'all was going to be trash because Amari was gone?
You won? it's not MVP
Your team success does not make give you individual awards. I'm sorry that that shit is so weak
Stand on your own fucking toes
Staying like a man on your own toes. stop standing behind other motherfucking players like the team
Yes, like the team
In the team game. Yes. I don't understand the logic. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's like what we play motherfucker out there
Average in 50 he averages 14 and his team is number one. He want to be MVP
motherfucker playing just 14 and his team is number one. He want to be MVP. Motherfucker playing.
He a barely a player, but his team because he got a whole bunch of motherfucker.
You see it like that? No, that's not
how we play, baby.
Motherfucker have them Boston
Celtics players.
The 50-something of them
that's in the goddamn Hall of Fame
because they got everybody and they starting five
and they average eight points.
Hall of Fame, get the fuck out of here.
That's bullshit.
So the MVP is who averages the most points.
No, who has to do the most work.
So make it happen.
Who has to do the most work.
Scoring the most points is doing the most work.
Whoever has to do the most work.
Is that doing the most work?
Who has to do the most work.
Is scoring doing the most work? Who has to do the most work that doing the most who has to do the most work is scoring Doing the most work who has to do the most work when who was getting doubled more Steve Nash that year
Or Kobe is going
Scoring doing the most work. That's all I want to know if your team needs it
Is that doing the most work again consider, who was getting doubled more? Steve Nash?
I mean, Kobe.
Or Kobe?
Kobe had to go through every single defense known to man to put up what he was putting up.
Steve Nash out there playing by himself.
Pick and roll up because he got three all-stars with him.
It's easy to play basketball.
You got three all-stars with him.
Ask Jordan Poole how hard it is to be the man by yourself.
When that game plan, when they sit there like...
Did you just reach all the way to Jordan Poole?
No.
You said...
That is real time.
When you don't got no stars by you...
Wow.
And you by yourself, shit look a little different, don't it?
It's easy to sit there and bop the fuck out of everybody
You got clay Thompson and motherfucking curry on the side
Steph look the same as Jordan pool right now
She won average 30 miss kabab. One average in 31 average in 50 both look like
Whatever June 15. They both look like they tired of losing she won average in 15
I'm tired of losing out here man. The reason you of losing is because you ain't who we thought you was.
Sir?
I'm in Washington.
I didn't ask to be here.
Yep, trust me.
I didn't ask to be here. Hey, the Virginia Wizards is about to...
Hey, trust me.
We're going to get you a whole New Jersey, trust me.
We thought we was getting...
Listen, we thought we was getting Nicki Minaj.
Hey, Jordan Poole, man.
They had to get you out of there. We get sexy red out of there. Hey, Jordan Poole, man, they had to get you out of there.
We getting sexy red.
They had to get you out of there.
They had to get you out of there.
Uh-huh, we getting booty hole brown.
That's what we getting out of it.
No, thank you.
Stop.
We want Nicki Minaj.
That's what we thought.
We thought we was getting bonafide superstars.
They had to get you out of there at the same pace.
Stop.
It's like that meme.
They had to get you out of there, man.
Stop.
It's like that meme. I thought we was going go see Beyonce. They took us see Jocelyn
I like Jocelyn would
There's somebody unnecessary stress in the arena
People is minding their business going about their lives trying to make me do it nothing st. Louis ain't doing nothing
st. Louisans. We ain't doing nothing. St. Louisans.
Sexy Red.
You going to give Jordan Poole a greatness shirt?
Nah.
Yeah.
He can't get the greatness shirt.
Jordan Poole can't get the greatness shirt?
We got to have a talk first.
Talk.
I'm a real leader.
I'm a real leader.
I'm a real mentor.
Yeah, yeah. I'm going to leader. I'm a real mentor.
I'm going to talk to him first.
Listen, you know it's bad.
He's like, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Don't go too far.
Don't put that on me.
Eric McCann's got some excellency policies.
He can't win a McCann.
He can't win a McCann.
You know it.
Hey, struggle, struggle.
This is supposed to be greatness.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't be doing that to the brand.
I'm going to talk to him first.
I'm going to talk to him.
What's wrong with y'all, man?
Oh, man.
What's wrong with you Negroes?
It's Wednesday, man.
But back to Luka real quick.
So you think top four finish, he has an opportunity to do that?
Because right now, I mean, look,
man's made several first-team All-NBA teams,
obviously established himself
as one of the most dominant forces in the league.
Like I said, numbers down ever so slightly from last season,
but wins are up.
But, Gil, you're saying that wins don't matter.
So what's different from 11th seed Luka to 4th seed Luka?
Who did they get over there?
Different this year.
They kept Kyrie.
Got Derek Lively.
Nothing.
Grant Williams. nothing changed.
Just added Grant.
Stop.
Don't disrespect him.
So this is about him getting MVP?
Championship mentality.
That's what I'm saying.
Whatever he's doing different this year, he's playing better.
He didn't get no new pieces.
So they don't win it these next two years, right?
Like what do you do?
Lakers.
No, not with him. You know who be what do you do? Lakers. No.
Not with him.
Like, you know who be hooping over there?
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Yeah, he hoops.
That motherfucker.
I like Tim Hardaway.
Like, yo, if he ever had to leave Dallas, he needs to go to a contender.
Because he just, he don't.
Are you saying Dallas is not a contender?
He guards people and he don't, and he going to shoot when they're.
Like, I like.
He play hard.
And he play hard.
He play hard. Like, I was looking at some of his stats.
The problem, the real problem was, is Unicorn.
I know they didn't get along, but that was a valuable piece for moving forward.
Okay.
You have Kyrie.
He's a 6'3", 6'4", shooting guard, right? I mean, at this point, you know, when
your point guard is 6'9", you know, it's such an off balance. You can't have 6'3", and what
is Tim Hardaway Jr.? 6'5"?
4'.
6'4"?
6'4".
You're 2 and you're 3 are too small in a sense of...
6'5".
Just saying, Gil. Get rid of Kyrie.
Got to get rid of Lakers.
Whoever you get rid of,
you got to get two good pieces.
I'd move Kyrie and Tim Hardaway Jr.
For what? I don't know.
I got to keep Tim. Honestly, probably Gabe Vincent
I think would be...
For Gabe Vincent, Kyrie?
Listen, I'm not going to front.
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Make it feel good. Okay, hey, hey forget this. I'm not gonna front Tim. How do we do your that Tim? How do we do your words? I see hmm. So I'm not enjoying what the words is. All right
It's just like somebody like Luca like when you're talking about like
The difference you need your three and four has to be just as big
for you to be like
Hmm where Dallas Jared Allen is a Levine in Dallas just as big for you to be like me. Hmm.
Where Dallas?
Jared Allen is Zach Levine in Dallas.
I just don't believe it.
I just I don't like it.
I mean, I was like, I know.
I know.
He's not healthy right now.
But like that, I like Bill Bradley.
Yeah, like somebody like Bill.
He needs like he did like if it's two and three were like six, six and six, eight.
Yeah. Now that's a, that front line is.
Bill is what, 6'6?
Who?
Bill is what, 6'6?
Huh?
Bill is what, 6'6?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So if my two's big and my three, like I already got 6'9.
Bill's like 6'4, 6'5.
Nah, he's about 6'9.
If you keep him hard away at the two.
Yeah, I'm keeping Bill over there though.
If you keep him hard away at the two, it's going Luka, Tim, and you need a bigger.
You need a bigger three,
like a DeMar DeRozan type.
Like with KD?
Nah.
Man, that'd help.
I'm telling you, go get a Klay.
But you want a playmaker.
Nah, Luca's not.
No, you need a straight shooter.
You need somebody that's going to shoot them.
Shooters and drivers.
Shooters.
You need one slasher.
You need a slasher and a shooter needs one slack in his slashing the shoe
They makers like that that slashes to make a play. Okay, Brandon. I'm like a Grayson Allen
I like that Brandon Ingram Zion Zion
That's what I'm saying. Like he's like if you could put Kyrie and um and Tim Hardaway jr. Together you could get something
I he needs those are big pieces. He needs like Yoko's has he needs he needs a big team
Yeah, like I think like a bigger team.
Like, you got fucking Grant who's 6'3", playing power four.
That just hurts Luka.
6'5", in Huff, Gil.
6'5", in Huff.
But I'm saying in the long run, that hurts Luka when Luka's damn near the biggest guy on the team at that point.
Or in the lineup.
That just doesn't look right.
You can go back to that lineup that Dallas had when they won in 2011.
It was Tyson
With Sean Sean Marion was the four or the three. I think he's like the three on that team Vince wasn't on that team
No, right. No, this was no no this one there yet
Was starting yeah, the hey would be would was on that bench. Yeah, that was them two. Yeah. Tyson Chandler and B. Haywood was their bigs.
Yeah.
Those were just lobs and offensively good.
Jake Hidd was a starting point guard, yeah.
Jason Terry.
Luka needed that team that Milwaukee had when they wanted that type of length.
Like all that, like from Drew on up.
Yeah, everybody just needed him.
It was like 6'5".
Yeah.
Yeah.
He needed that type of length. It changes. He won't look so bad on defense because he got lint back there.
The team wouldn't be that bad on defense because they're just bad
just because they're too small.
They're too small.
They can't do nothing.
Lively is too young to know what to do back there.
That's why I say they need vet bigs like Jared Allen.
Go get him.
Or Claxton.
Claxton from over there in New Jersey.
With Derek Lively looking good in his rookie season.
You know.
How long do we think Luka stays in Dallas?
Forever.
Forever? Forever.
But I'm giving it.
But I'm giving them the next, like, they got this year or next year.
They got to start moving.
No, I mean, Dirk, I mean.
Not moving Luka.
No, no, no, no, no.
Like, Dirk didn't win.
Not Luka.
Like, think about when Dirk came in with 98.
He didn't win until 2011.
But it's a different time now, G, with the internet.
I'm just saying, like, kid.
Yeah, I'm about to say, expectations is like this.
Man, you got, like, a year.
Low-key got one year.
I know, right?
You do.
You really do.
You got one year.
Then they go, like, all right, next time.
I'm going to go on that goddamn rookie.
You just got it.
Oh, man.
It was a different time.
We had just got Facebook, MySpace.
You know, Twitter wasn't really Twitter.
I'd be part of like,
he ain't part of my roster.
He only 21.
I'm like, man, he's only 21.
You low-key got like one year now in the NBA.
You got one year.
If not, after that, it's like, all right, next.
Next.
The reason that is because players now,
you really get to demand where you want to go.
So shit, lineups can change up fast as shit.
So Dirk, only player to do 21 years with one team.
Obviously Kobe did 20 years with the Lakers.
Will we see something like that again in this current modern NBA where God just stays?
Is Steph maybe the last, potentially Giannis, the last of that crew that'll ride out that
loyalty way?
Giannis.
Embiid is treatment.
You're Donna Sassler?
No. See, the thing about Giannis is thatiid is tricky. Come on, Udonis Haslam?
No, see, the thing about Giannis is that- MVP level.
I can see Giannis being there, but man, they have a thing of trading players.
They got rid of Big O and Ray Allen.
They're not going to get rid of Giannis, though.
Yeah, but it's all on the franchise.
I mean, Kareem gone.
Franchise.
It was gone.
He got three years to win again.
That's what I'm saying.
For Giannis, it's different. Giannis has to win it
this year or next year. Kareem said,
send me back to Westwood.
Kareem told the Bucks, send me back to
Westwood. I'm good. Giannis,
he's just happy to touch
the grass in the mirror.
They're playing together.
Wimby? Wimby ain't. No, no. Wimby?
Wimby ain't going nowhere.
You think Wimby will stay?
Nah, Wimby out of there.
Nah, Wimby out of there.
I mean, that's a big market.
Bro, bro, relax.
Well, I mean, it depends.
If Pop retires, I mean, if Pop retires, if Pop retires and goes upstairs.
Pop got a five-year plan, right?
If Pop goes upstairs, though, if Pop goes upstairs, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, like some Pat Riley sure. Like some Pat Riley.
Yeah, some Pat Riley.
Other than that,
I don't see.
I mean, I can see Steph.
When are you going to go
to them niggas?
I hate them.
I can see Steph.
I can see Giannis staying.
I can see Jokic
up in Denver.
Staying?
Yeah, Jokic.
Jokic ain't going nowhere.
I can see him staying.
I can see...
I mean, we all...
The Europeans
are the only ones that's going to stay. They're the only ones loyal. It's see... I mean, we all... The Europeans are the only ones...
They're the only ones loyal.
It's all...
Booker's going to stay.
Booker's staying in Phoenix.
Nah.
But it's not about the...
No.
It's not about the play...
No, Booker don't stay in Phoenix.
No.
Why not?
100%.
They got to win it.
100%.
They got to win it in these next...
100%.
They got three years to win it.
He ain't going nowhere, though.
Who, Brooke?
Book ain't going nowhere.
We got pieces around... The clock is fucking ticking over there. That clock is ticking. We ain't going nowhere, though. Who, Brooke? Book ain't going nowhere. We got pieces around.
The clock is fucking ticking over there.
But we got pieces around where we can still be like, y'all can move.
That clock is ticking over there.
If I'm D. Book, I'm out of there.
Organization than the player.
Marketing.
It's more the organization than the player.
The marketing.
We thought Russ would be OKC forever.
Yeah.
It's the marketing.
You guys have played in OKC.
Is that a place you want to spend your entire career?
It could be because it's just a loud, like a home field.
It's a community-based place.
And Russ was that type of dude.
He was a family dude.
You know what I'm saying?
Made sense for him.
Devin Booker needed to go to a big market.
Applebee's.
Yeah, Applebee's, Chili's.
That's all they got.
They got a Chili's?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
I didn't know that.
Cookout.
You know what I'm saying?
Panera Bread. Panera Bread. bread today, I can see the Suns
Regrouping now if that'll work with them big three like I can see them getting everybody up out of there watch
There's nothing about Kate I just think I could see that franchise just
Like like if they don't win in the next two years, it's like alright, but this is what I'm saying
But book be in there. Yeah just like like if they don't win in the next two years it's like all right but this is what i'm saying but book being there yeah if i'm if i'm gonna say i'm trying to stay if i'm book i'm
asking he's gonna try to stay if i'm book i'm asking for the trade he's it's the only connection
he has to the lineage of i'm gonna be in my book he does he's like one of the last ones left they
got long enough career he's like but let me let me ride this out with them but if you never wanted
he came close sitting at his sitting at his a city for. But if you never won a... He came close.
Sitting at a city for that many years and never winning a championship, that's not possible.
Is it?
Who's done that?
20-something years without winning a championship in the same... I don't...
Reggie Miller.
Reggie Miller.
Huh?
Indianapolis, though.
Like, 18.
Indianapolis, nice city.
Reggie Miller.
Great downtown.
A lot of downfalls in there.
A lot of nights.
Technically, they kind of had one.
Patrick Hewitt.
They kind of had one.
Patrick Hewitt?
They kind of had one.
Kind of had one.
The brawl year.
The end season?
That brawl year.
The malice in the palace.
That could have been theirs.
No, that could have, would have, should have shit.
No, because Detroit won it that year.
That year? No, no, no. Detroit didn didn't win it they went to the championship that year
Detroit winning the championship that year and obviously the reason that the malice happened because Detroit was gonna ask well
My Pacers Pacers came out whooping that ass Pacers good to do nice. Well Pacers was nice, bro
Yeah, it was a chose was not I could have beeners was nice. Bro, Pacers was nice, bro. Yeah, they was.
Pacers was nice.
But that could have been, you know, so he get an asterisk.
Detroit, a fine city.
Pacers, get the fans their bonus win, please.
That's great that you bring that up because they probably would have won it.
Yeah.
No.
Damn.
Shit, Reggie had what, like two cracks at it?
No.
I mean.
That would have been the real crack.
They were nice, bro.
They had everything.
Steven Jackson.
They had everything.
They had everything.
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They had everything.
Like, what?
No.
Man, they ran.
They ran.
Bro, they was killing.
They ran through Detroit that year, and Detroit went to the championship.
Oh, Kobe.
Wait.
No, no.
Spurs.
They beat Kobe.
Spurs.
The Spurs.
Who beat Kobe?
Spurs.
Spurs did.
Who beat Kobe?
Spurs.
The Spurs. When you said they, like it was Indiana and them. No, Spurs Spurs who'd be coming Spurs birthday. We'll be covers the Spurs
But you said they like it was Indiana them. No Spurs was a mission. You say cars in Detroit
No, I'm saying like right Indiana wasn't gonna be fucking with Cove in them
That's what I'm even cold didn't even make Indiana not winning shit. That's all we didn't make
Oh, they were to play this they're the Spurs just saying the end of not winning shit
I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, they have some dog great this shit. They're going to play the Spurs. That year, they had some dogs.
They had scores. They had dogs.
Detroit didn't have the scores that
Indiana had. And they had some dogs on
that team. And they was physical, too.
They matched all that. Indiana,
great city, a great host for the 2024
All-Star Game. Gills Arena may or may not be there.
We're trying to get our bread right.
Gill, it's on you. You're trying to get
people in the chat, Brett. We could use that.
Hey, don't be talking out loud.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Hey, man, what?
I'm giving out 5,000 more?
I mean, we are inching closer.
They're not listening.
They're not going to get it to 5,000 more.
The chat is lazy, as we already know.
They're not going to get it to 5,000.
We good.
Hey, I love giving out fake money.
Because that's all it just promises at this point.
Hey, I don't have to do my job cuz they ain't doing theirs damn job being lazy and I'm off the hook man
Well now let's move on to mostly fans again another spirited show it's not around that time so first question underdog user King shock 82 he said is
Orlando and Minnesota the real deal or fool's gold I like many I like Minnesota
Orlando's young we still got a you to really watch them up close.
But someone pointed out about the playoffs,
and I was like, in the playoffs,
they don't have no bona fides star right now.
Young fellas young.
That's going to get the calls that actually help them.
Who, the Magic or the...
Okay.
Paolo Banchero.
Yeah.
He played against Miami in the playoffs.
Jimmy Butler's going to get those star calls. He's not
Magic currently second in the East tie with the Bucks at 16 and 7
Timber will stop for the best record in the league 17 and 5
I'm going with the T wolves. Yeah, I said yeah out all them. Yeah the team you still got plugs out there
Can we we could Minnesota's called called well, you know, he
You rock with the city what with the work I rock with the work
Fuck about the city work. I'll give a fuck about nothing when I touch down make sure you touch up. When I touch down, you touch up.
Ladies and gentlemen.
The upper room.
The upper room.
The workshop where Rashad McKay is coming from.
Work-related needs.
Orlando, they young, but they good.
It's early.
And I think what Jamal is telling them is if we can get these early games in catch the momentum
We could be in the race at the end
Yeah, for sure. They're gonna go down the downslide and it's gonna be one of them tragic downslide
But I think if they could keep it consistent with just showing up every night. It'll be good. Yeah
touchdown touchdown
When I touchdown make sure you touch up.
Yeah, boy. So our next question is a video question from an underdog user by the name of Josiah's Biggest Fan.
You can run it.
What's up, Gills Arena? Bear down.
So I just seen a video of Elijah Arena's hooping.
He had 37, 6, and 5.
But it got me thinking, do any of you guys think your children could beat you in a game of one-on-one?
You too, Josiah.
I know you be throwing elbows and getting dirty out there.
And when were you guys able to beat your parents in one-on-one?
When y'all were growing up.
I set screens and raised the team GPA.
Damn. Study hall. No, I'm pretty sure. I set screens and raise the team GPA
Study hall now. I'm pretty funny a lot of guys who I play with that went to the league I can call them broke boys now. So god bless girls arena. What was they name? Huh? What was they name?
Josiah's biggest fan. No, I'm just kidding
Josiah second chin is the real username, but
Never shows the chin they had the bonnet. But I respect it. Purple bonic.
Nice person.
Like, I'm sure my son can beat me one-on-one, but the way my rules work, nah.
Penitentiary?
Oh, yeah.
If I don't make it, it's foul somehow.
Oh, that Magic Johnson.
Because everything I do is like pump fake, do all this, and put the hand out.
You're talking about when you're on offense, he can foul you.
Yeah.
I don't play defense.
You only get two fouls. Just make it, yeah two fouls I shoot free throw or I get the
point get a point two shot point I mean unfortunately I wasn't able to play
against my dad but I don't think my kids gonna be able to beat me ever I don't
know I'm gonna stay in shape like I'm taking that shit to heart he don't get
he don't get beat in like a few years no You know what man? I'm taking it to heart.
Yeah, I'll fuck shit up.
I'm gonna fuck shit up for sure.
For sure.
I was playing with Floyd.
This is what I learned.
Niggas don't care about their son or their daughter or how good they like go at them.
I'm playing ball with Floyd Mayweather before his son was about 16.
And he's like, nah, foul that motherfucker every time.
Don't take it light on him.
Dunk on him, everything.
And I was like, you know what?
Fuck these little motherfuckers out here.
I can't wait.
I'm about to dunk on the, what?
My wife's like 13.
You got three more years, 16.
Oh yeah, let's get out here.
Let's see where it's at.
I'm taking the ball every time.
You're still able-bodied though.
My pops had the janky hip, broke his neck.
That's what ended his career.
So he was light work.
Five years old.
Five years old. Pops was in White Man Can can't jump hit the right hip. There's nothing
Your mother gun shoot all my other good he said nah nah nah fuck this
Interesting time shout out to Ron Sheldon for providing for our family.
Last question is from underdog user Tresosa918.
Another video.
Yeah, it's raining.
What's good?
Salsa back.
What's up, man?
Yeah, she.
Son of Stitt ain't got to be explained.
Gil, I feel you.
There's a lot of people in the chat.
Got a closet full of shoes, and they don't really know what to do with them.
Just white tees.
They don't get the drill. But my my question is when I'm start bench cuts got a Tyrese Halliburton and Trey Young and the mellow
ball we are rocking with start start bench cut and we'll just say all that
full strength strength superpowers Tyrese Halliburton Trey Young and the
mellow ball Tyrese Halliburton, Trey Young, LaMelo Ball.
LaMelo Ball.
I'm starting Holly.
Good answer, Gil, because we will be in Indiana for the All-Star game.
Tyrese Halliburton will be pulling up.
For sure, I'm starting him.
I'm starting him.
Pay your debt, Tyrese.
We need that.
I'm going to bench Trey.
No way.
Then I'm going to have to cut LaMelo. No fucking way.
No fucking way.
I know, I know.
No fucking way. These are fair. No fucking way. I know, I know. No fucking way.
These are fair.
No fucking way.
I don't need Lamella ball.
I got Lamella ball number one.
Rolling out a three-point guard line.
Y'all just going with what's hot.
Y'all going with what's hot right now.
Nah, because I need Trey Young coming up because he's shooting.
So he ain't going to have no...
I need bench.
Halliburton is definitely the one that's cut, bro.
Who?
That is my man.
Who?
Halliburton. Hell nah. And I was like him early look he put hell not good. I get it. He's playing good
But the mother to think it's the mother to niggas
Like mellow all of that mellow and Trey
Lamella's been hurled in the mellow hurt mellow hurt. Yeah. Yeah, Mello hurt. Come on, man. Mello? But what place is he at?
Double boy?
Like, he moves fast.
Like, you don't know how fast he is.
Like, that ball is up the court.
He's like J. Kidd used to be.
Who?
Hallie.
Pacers 50 in the East right now, 13 in the A.
He just moves how point guards move.
128 points.
Like, 120.
That means the guy who has the ball is up.
So, his condition is crazy there.
I'm not taking nothing away from him.
I'm just saying, like, Trey and the mellow ball.
The mellow ball.
I mean, listen, this is.
You going to cut.
Either way, I mean, hey, somebody got to get cut.
Workshop Hall of Famer, the mellow ball.
Oh, man, all-timer.
Trey Young coming off, though.
He's 13.
I need the scoring.
He's an old-timer, bro. What are you talking about? The's why I need a timer. He's an audience timer, bro
What are you talking?
Mellow ball. I'm not really he's already go to us
I want to call and cut nobody. I just say if I got Hallie
I don't need I don't need a three-point guard lineup three point girls
I got the pier pier if I got mellow on the Holly I got tracks
Could be really some I'll trade boo. You said what you like Holly?
Honey, I mean they cancel each other out. so whatever one you go with doesn't work.
Holly is a taller Trey.
That's it.
Holly just, to me, he's just more mature.
I feel like he can take Indiana deeper than Melo can.
That's because of the pace he plays at.
I mean, hey, and that's the pace we need.
Because the bench, when Trey coming off, the same pace.
I don't care about all that flashy shit place we need cuz the bitch when Trey coming off the same pace. Oh
I don't care about that flashy shit, man. Let's get this shit done
Let's get that shit. How about currently?
Dame that shit
Leave Dame out of this bro. Nah, nigga
Leave Dame out of my bucks on it. Just said did you go had a conversation Dave's the job done. I don't want to hear about that shit.
First of all, it's New City. It's cold.
It's fucking snowing.
We ain't used to that.
We good over here.
It's 20 games in. Leave Dame alone and leave the Bucs alone.
Celtics what?
We glad your man took your Stephen A. Smith
off his head.
Yeah, it's okay.
He finally got that Stephen. He had that Stephen A. Smith off his head. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. It's gonna be all right. He finally got that Stephen, yeah, he got that,
he had that Stephen A. Smith, he had to go ahead
and let it go.
Yeah, it's all good.
He had to let it go, he bald-headed now, right?
We hear your jokes, we heard your jokes.
He heard your jokes.
Let it go.
Yeah, yeah, let it line up again, though.
Yeah, we heard your jokes.
Come over, we had that, if he didn't have Brahim,
and Stevie Warner.
Oh, unnecessary. Oh, hey. If he didn't have Brady, but Stevie wanted him. Oh, unnecessary.
Oh, man.
Oh, unnecessary.
Yo, chill out on the Bucs, bro.
Listen, man, I'm just saying accountability, bro.
It's a new opportunity.
Don't be coming at these other players.
It's a whole new scene.
You don't be giving them.
Bro, can we give Dame all the way to All-Star?
No, no, no.
Dame is when playoffs start, that's when Dame by the.
Listen, man.
Listen, listen.
A whole new city.
He ain't never been. He living in Milwaukee. It's cold. It's Milwaukee, bro.... Listen, man. Listen, listen. The whole new city. He ain't never been...
He living in Milwaukee.
It's cold.
Milwaukee, bro.
Come on, bro.
Like, give my man some time.
Listen, listen.
We gave him time, bro.
Like...
How much?
What?
20 games?
How much time you need?
40 games?
Yes.
We only got eight.
Can we at least get to All-Star?
You need half of the season?
I need two games.
Look.
Can we at least get to All-Star?
Look.
You land.
You touchdown. you check in,
everybody good, time to go.
The timer hit.
The timer hit when you land.
How long did it take for Miami to get going when Bronfers got there?
They started
off the season with eight in front,
nine and eight, and then they beat us
and won 22 straight.
Okay.
We're around that same right now, right?
Okay.
No.
No.
It's about that.
No.
It's about that.
Hey, man, you just got to tweak.
As long as they tweak it.
You're one of the all-time point guards of all time, all time.
We don't need to use the microwave.
You don't need to warm this shit up.
This is fucking solar panels.
Nigga, you don't even need to plug it in.
Nigga, stop.
You need sunlight, though. Solar panels. Stop. Stop. This is Dave solar panels. Nigga, you don't even need to plug it in. Nigga, stop. You need sunlight, though. It's solar panels.
I'm just saying.
This is Dave Lillard.
He's one of the greatest ever.
He going to get the cooking.
One of the greatest ever, man.
It's early.
He going to get the cooking.
He going to get the cooking.
It's early.
Have accountability, man.
For what?
For 20 games in?
And we still in the top five.
We're going to see what happens when he plays that light-skinned bald-haired motherfucker
over on your team.
You don't want no problems?
Yeah.
Who? He a defensive player. He a defense? Yeah. First team. We're going to see what Derek. First team. We're going to see what happens when he plays against that light-skinned bald-haired motherfucker over on your team. You don't want no problems? Yeah. Who?
He a defensive player, right?
He a defense?
Yeah.
First team.
We're gonna see what Derrick...
First team.
We're gonna see what...
First team.
Yeah.
First team.
Derrick White look like...
First team.
We got two first-teamers.
Huh?
What's up?
Whole team ugly.
No, not the whole team.
Sorry.
Look, look.
You hate.
Don't hate.
Don't be hating.
They're ready to hurt.
They got work, too.
Don't be...
Don't be hating on them.
They got work.
They don't...
Nah, they got that...
Derrick White?
No, no, no. No, Boston... No, no, no. Boston got them... them to group that group. What's that what they call a birdie ins?
To up twins one time I was I mean I'm Cape Verdeans boy
You know He don't know. That's the only thing in Boston. He don't know. You don't know. That's the only thing in Boston, K-Birdian.
Woo!
I was in, back then when I played, I had a girlfriend.
You had a girlfriend?
I always had a girlfriend.
Damn.
He's a faithful dude, man.
Faithful dude?
Yeah, we don't do work over here.
Damn.
Then you got an anti-workshop?
Yep.
Damn.
I got a girlfriend around COVID.
Never looked back.
Never looked back. Hey, sometimes- Got one of them COVID girls. Yep. We. I got a girlfriend around COVID. Never look back. Never look back.
Hey, sometimes-
Got one of them COVID girls.
Yep.
We gonna sit here.
While everybody was breaking up in COVID, he was getting to get them.
You gonna sit here, go get that toilet paper and make that rice and eggs.
See it.
Construction work ain't for everybody, my nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
This construction over here, you got to be able to construct the work.
They say-
No, I'm not gonna front.
Back in the day, the work used to be so hard. So many, it's just like- Goddamn. That's. To construct the work. They said. No, I'm not going to front. Like, back in the day, like, the work used to be so hard.
Like, so many.
It's just like.
God, damn.
That's how I be right now.
Yeah, but it's just like.
Back then, it was just like looking back like, damn, like, I was juggling.
Yeah.
Like, I was in my bag.
Bro, what you mean?
You got to bring the spirit back.
The spirit is gone, Brandon.
The spirit.
They tried to.
I just feel like if I ever tried to go back out there and do that, I would get ate up now cuz it's just like I'm not I'm not I don't know what's going on now
What you need to know I don't know what you need to know
What you need to know, huh?
What you need to know all you need to know is when to pick them up when to drop them off
I just want to make sure they're a woman. Hey, what's how you land? No, I just want to make sure
What's how you now be there? Yeah, what time you go home? That's social media is crazy
Yeah, I just want go home now that social that social media is crazy. Yeah, I just a real woman
Uber pool Joe or do you over what time do you need to go home?
Get out here in these streets. Are you over pulling the
criteria or tears of what's wrong with you
Or traditional taxis yellow, okay, I try to do the pool later the pool the carpools traditional yellow
How can I see
It is out of smoke smoke is that it works the other way the work took all this Come on. Just blow the smoke.
But this has been another episode of
Gilded Green. I'm presenting my underdog fantasy.
Woo!
See y'all on Thursday.
Gotta make sure. We'll see you next time. Bye.