Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Bronny James' BREAKOUT Game

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Bronny James' BREAKOUT Game as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew return to the Arena and kick off NBA tip-off week by reacting to break out games from the Lakers' rookies Bronny James & Dalton Knecht and discuss if their contributions along with Preseason Star Quincy Olivari will be enough to deliver LeBron & The Lakers with an NBA Championship.with a debate over which NBA team is under the most pressure heading into the 2024 NBA season. Next they discuss Doc Rivers and the Milwaukee Bucks after the breaking news that Khris Middleton will be missing the Bucks' opening game and debate if Doc is in danger of getting fired if the Bucks fail to live up to expectations again this season. Then they move over to the NBA's western conference where they react to Kevin Durant comparing his Phoenix Suns to the Kansas City Chiefs and discuss how much pressure the Suns' big 3 of Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal are under to deliver this season after disappointing immensely in their first season together. Finally, Gil & The Crew Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Sheryl Swoopes, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:00 WNBA Finals Game 5 Reaction 0:05:15 Lynx Head Coach Calls Out The WNBA Refs 0:11:23 WNBA's Record Breaking Season 0:16:38 Has Doc Rivers Come Up Short? 0:20:20 Doc Rivers On The Hot Seat 0:26:00 Bucks Want To Bring Back Thanasis 0:35:35 Does Dame Make Giannis Better? 0:52:04 BREAKING NEWS: Jalen Green Signs Extension 1:17:30 Bronny James' Best NBA Performance 1:32:42 Quincy Olivari's Breakout Summer 1:53:36 Jalen Sugg's Extension 2:07:36 Pressure's On For KD & The Suns 2:08:37 MostlyFans 2:23:40 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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NBA start tomorrow. We're going to keep this basketball shit moving. How we feeling? How we feeling, Cheryl? We got you back up in here. Good to see you. I'm so happy to be back. We have some things to talk about? Cheryl, we got you back up in here. Good to see you. I'm so happy to be back. We have some things to talk about.

Yes, we do. Some things to discuss. What's up with you, Gil? I'm good. What's the matter? You're busy over here. You multitasking? Yeah.

What you got going down? Putting the link out. Okay, we'll turn it up. Let's get it. Gil got a new phone, new case. New everything, new sweater. Let's get it. Gil got a new phone, new case. New everything. New sweater. Sweater.

New lease on life. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Readers here with us. What up, what up? We got four-time WNBA champion, three-time MVP Cheryl Swoops back in the arena for the first time for season three. And we got Kenya Martin back here on the couch. What you say?

What's up? What's up? Cool. We got a lot to get into today, but for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you, our traditional version and a vertical mobile version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.

Just make sure you support the arena. And here's what's cracking in the arena today. KD thinks the Suns NFL comp is the Kansas City Chiefs, but is the championship a bust for the Suns' big three this season? Doc Rivers says

he's never come up short in his coaching career, but is that facts or cap? And the Liberty ended their championship drought bringing New York its first basketball title since 1973. Wow. But should the Lynx feel some type of way with the officiating in Game 5?

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wherever you get your podcasts. So, like I mentioned, yeah, we got, Cheryl, we got your number on the court. I'm just checking out what's, everything's new. That's all. I told them to make it bigger, but they said... I was just trying to make sure it was still there. It's still there, thriving.

We got the court redone for season three. So shout out to our crew. We got all these lovely Halloween decorations as well through the end of the month. But let's start WNBA. Thank you. Okay, give them a hand. The Leaks of Liberty met for game five on Brooklyn Sunday night, and it did not disappoint.

Well, at least not for New York fans, as the Liberty set the game to OT and never looked back, ending their championship drought by winning their first trip in six finals trips. Jonquil Jones led the Liberty with 17.6 rebounds, was named WNBA Finals MVP for her efforts. Stewie finished with 13 points, 15 rebounds, going four for 15 from the field, but came up big in crunch

time, hitting two free throws to send the game to OT. And Sabrina Inescu had her worst game of the finals with 5 points and 8 assists, going 1 for 19 from the field and 1 for 10 from deep. It was tough out there, but she still got an A on the group project. So, Nafisa Collier

led the Lynx with 22.7 rebounds, 2 blocks, and Kayla McBride added 21 points, 5 boards, five dimes, and four steals. But the Lynx mixed all six of their field goal attempts in OT and were outscored 7-2 in the final five minutes of action. Like I mentioned previously, the win gives New York its first basketball title since 1973. Cheryl, you are what many consider to be the WNBA ghost. We've got to start here with you first. What are your thoughts on the Liberty winning their first chip in franchise history?

Like, I'm happy for them. Okay. But I'd never want New York to win anything. Well, that's a fair assessment. That's like the competitor in me. Like, when I played, it was Comets and New York. So I never wanted them to win. But the other side is

I'm glad they did because I also didn't want Minnesota to be the first team to win five. Ooh. So you was torn. We had four, right? I don't need them to get five.

But... You tried four straight, so... Listen, Minnesota had a lot of opportunities to win. Anytime you can get Stewie to go four for 15 and Sabrina to go one for 19, you gotta find a way to win that game.

Anybody that was betting, I guarantee you they didn't think that Liberty would win with those two playing that way. But... I'm sure if you would have told all of us, that would have been those two playing that way. I'm sure if you'd have told all of us, that would have been their style. I know. I mean, it was

a great series, I will say that. Finals, you always want the finals to go to the limit. Yeah, in the W it's five, supposed to be seven next year. But I was just excited to see the series was competitive. We went to five games. It was great basketball all season long. And, you know, the Liberty came up short last year on their home court.

It was a little bit like we don't want to do that again this year. Liberty also got redemption from the WNBA Commissioner's Cup where the Lynx beat them. Cheryl Reeve had some things to say after that about Super Team, had some things to say after this game about Super Team. Had a few things. Yeah, but let's talk about the elephant in the room. We ain't talking about Ellie.

There were some questionable calls throughout the game, especially late in the fourth quarter when refs missed an obvious travel by Stewie on this possession, called a foul. Oh, my goodness. Which led to her knocking down the game-time free throws with 3.8 seconds remaining. How do you miss that?

Was that not a travel to you? That was a travel. It was a travel. It was like a shuffle. It was like a move. You don't see it. You see it. She did, like, the New York shuffle, whatever that is.

So, did you think that was a foul? Well, rewind. I thought she traveled. Yeah. Yes. Yes. So, you don't even get to that call if you call the travel. But, no, I didn't think that was a foul.

Word. Can we talk before the show? I didn't. Did you think that was a foul? I thought it was a... I see it not being... But I thought it was a foul. I didn't think her hands were straight up.

Can we rewind it? I think she was like foul. I didn't think her hands were straight up. Can we rewind it? I think she was like this. Can we see that one more time? She had a hand on the ball, but to get a hand on the ball, hands had to be forward. You know what I'm saying? It's not a foul. Body, foul.

Fouls, I get them not calling it. That's not a foul. Are her hands straight up? Is it a foul? Who cares what you do? Yes. You know you was watching. No, Gil.

I think it's a foul. If they would have called the trial, then we would have never got there, but is her hand straight up is what I'm asking. Now, when she getting ready to shoot, is her hand straight up? But she didn't touch her. It's not a foul.

Look. There. Is it like this, or is it? I'm just asking. No, no, they weren't straight up. Like right here. Watch. Right there. That's not a foul.

That's a foul. OK, if you look at it from this angle, it's probably not a foul. But calling it in real time, all you... Should have been a travel. All you see is this. All you see is this. You don't know if she has her hand on the ball or her hand on her arm.

It just looks like it because, like, the bump is not the foul. It's... I hear you. But even after they challenged it and they went back and looked at it... You can't call it a travel. You can't call it a travel. I don't want the travel.

But you can go back and look at that that wasn't a foul. That's a foul. Go back. Let me ask you this. Would you want them to call that for you? Of course. So that's a foul.

But it wasn't a foul. Of course I want them to call it for me. But I also want them to call the travel first so we don't have to worry about that. But that's a foul.

But it's the MVP last year versus who? Who's going to get the benefit of the doubt? Well. In Brooklyn. Well. I thought it was a foul when it happened.

Too close. Too close. And for them to overturn it. And for them to overturn it. They weren't going to do that. They weren't going to do it. They weren't going to overturn it. I'm just going to use this hand for a minute.

Yeah, they wouldn't go overturn it, so... No, I mean, it's in New York. Not in that moment. Not in that moment. It's in New York. Cause of riot. New York trying to get... Cheryl Reeves said, for 28 years,

it took them 28 years to win one. We were trying to win five. I was like, shots fired. Speaking of Cheryl Reeves, she had a lot of things to say at her post-game press conference. So the Liberty were plus 17 to free throw differential, going to the line 25 times to the Lynx eight attempts.

But after the game, Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeves had this to say. I know all the headlines will be Reeves cries foul. Bring it on, right? Bring it on because this shit was stolen from us. Bring it on. So this isn't the first time the Lynx have found themselves on the wrong side of a controversial play in the WNBA Finals, but as Candace Parker and others have pointed out,

there have been plenty of bad calls in plenty of WNBA Finals. But, do you agree with Cheryl Reeves saying Game 5 was stolen from the Lynx? I mean, listen, I thought the officiating was awful the entire season. But seriously, but even in the playoffs, right? So game four, Sandy Brandello had the same complaint, right? She said, we didn't get any fouls called. We got no calls. We have one of the best players, and Stewie couldn't get any calls, right?

So then you go to game five, and it's the complete opposite. Cheryl Reeves is saying, well, we have one of the best players, and Stewie couldn't get any calls, right? So then you go to game five, and it's the complete opposite. Cheryl Reeves is saying, well, we have one of the best players in the Feast of Collier who can't get the same types of calls that Stewie is getting. Like, refs are always going to mess up. We're sitting here arguing right now about whether that was a foul or not. I think it was a travel. Like, I think refs are always going to be in a situation where we're never going to agree with all their calls, ever. My thing to Minnesota is, again,

you can't have Stewie and Sabrina have those types of games and you not win. Then the refs don't even come and play on that. That's just my personal opinion. And they went away from the mismatch they had. come and play on that. That's just my personal opinion. And they went away from the mismatch they had. What's the young lady that was, every time they had a big on her, she was taking them off the bounce.

I don't know her name, but she had a mismatch. And every time they would switch the big on her, she would take them off the bounce. Haley McBride? Yes. Yeah. Off the bounce. They went away from that.

Yeah. Right? You were searching other shots and other looks. And every time she had, every time they ran a pick and roll and they switched it or whatever action they had, she had to be on them. She just took them off the mound. She got to lay up every time.

I'm like, yeah, I need to keep going to that. But they went back to, let's just, it's my turn. Let's move this ball. Or it's my turn. You took the last four shots, so it's my turn. It was working. I don't think the refs were the best, but. You still got to win that game.

So we asked the chat. There's been some disagreements on the couch whether it was a foul or not. We asked the chat. Was it a foul? 57% said yes. 57% said no.

57% said it wasn't a foul? 57% said no, it was not a foul. Yo, she went with it. 43% said yes. We were heavy in New York, too, so. What? 43%.

Because now you got to count it in real time. 43% coming off what we're looking at. Now, everything's moving so fast. Yeah, but like. Like, I guess it's easier to call it and then review it versus not calling it. And you don't. You can't review it. So, I get what you're saying, right?

You're taught from the very beginning. When you contest, go straight up. You can't be... Because they're going to call this nine times out of ten. But if I'm Cheryl Reeve, and that statement she made, I do feel that way because there were so many other plays

and calls that should have been made that were a lot more obvious of a foul than that. And they didn't get called. So, and then you look at the free throws. Minnesota shot eight to New York's, what, 25. It just, I guess it was meant to be for the liberty. Lynx fans also saw through the WMA commissioner, Kathy Engelbert rocking a.

You saw that? A New York Liberty or a New York dress? With the skyline with the New York on it. He was in New York though, coordination. I'm always wanting to coordinate, but. Who were you rooting for? Yo, she went one for 19 in the final. Does Adam do that?

You know that? Mm-mm. Hmm? One for 19 in the final. At least they were, yeah, they was able to pull that thing. No doubt. She was one for 19. Now, granted, she had eight assists.

I was three for 23 in the finals against the Spurs, game six. And what'd you lose by? Three for 23? Three for 23. Damn. I made, like, my first two shots. Damn. I thought it was going to be a good one.

Well, I mean, at least she kept firing. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah. That's the thing, yeah. She kept it. She had some good looks, too. And that one three she made was a big ass three. Yeah. In the moment when they needed it.

But, yeah. It's not to be able to... You get good looks, the shots that you normally make. Yeah. 5 for 35 with Stewie and Inescu combined. And you trick it. You gotta win. You gotta win. You gotta win convincingly. Yeah. Don't even leave it up to chance. And the way the game started,

Minnesota, like, jumped out on the Liberty early, so I was like, oh, they about to take this chip back to Minnesota. So regardless of the questionable outcome, WMA finals proved to be record-breaking. Series set records for total attendance and average attendance. League also saw tremendous growth across the board with record viewership, attendance, and merch sales.

Fueled by the rookie debuts of Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese, along with the tremendous star power around the league. How monumental was this season for the growth of the W? I mean, I thought it was incredible. When you start off a lot of, you know, talk shows, and maybe it shouldn't be that way, but when first take is starting off talking about the WNBA, when CNN is talking about the WNBA, like...

When Gil's Arena is talking about the WNBA. When Gil's Arena is talking about the WNBA. But we've been doing that, so we... That's why I didn't... First thing. What, what? That's why I didn't put Gil's Arena in there. But the first thing.

Because you already know. We've been to a total... But there are new people, there are new media outlets that this year alone was like, we want to talk about the WNBA. And when you look at those numbers, you look at attendance records from across the board, you look at the finals. I mean, just the growth of the game this year itself, it exceeded so many people's expectations. And I've said this before, like the game's always been good.

The talent has always been good. But this year, I feel like what made it different was, one, social media played a big part of that. And you bring in a hell of a rookie class and they're bringing in fans. And then you have vets in this league that continue to be better and elevate the game. I mean, it's just great to see where the game is today and absolutely where it's headed with expansion and everything else.

So I'm super excited to see the growth of the game today. Good, you have a daughter that will be in the W next four years, Agent Shiro, as she is known by some. Yeah. How excited are you for the growth of the W right now and the league that she's gonna to be able to come into? I didn't even know they were still playing. What did you just say?

I didn't know they were still playing. Didn't know who was still playing. It's not like it comes on ESPN. Your game? Game five was on ESPN. Game three, that's when you said it. So, like, on his play group chat, this fool. What the? You didn't know? Yeah, he said, I'm snitching.

In the group chat, Gil was like, somebody mentioned WNBA, he was like, they still playing? Like, Gil, no, he was. Like, he thought the season was over already. Like, he wasn't. I'm sorry, I've been watching Game of Thrones. You're behind.

Yeah, I just got into it. So I've really been watching regular TV. So it's not my fault. Gil, what season of Game of Thrones are you on? What is your fault? Season two. Yeah, okay. I mean, I ain't going to.

Episode four. That is your fault. Season two. Season two, episode four. He threw that in there suddenly, too. He what? He threw that. He did. Season two, episode four. He threw that in that suddenly too. He what? He threw that scene to episode four. It's good.

So you can't answer the question? Game of Thrones already happened. You can watch that at any point. Is your daughter not going to play

in the WNBA? Oh, what was the question? You can just go on to the next one. Yeah, ask him. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gills Arena. So we will do as such.

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So link in the video. You can also find the link in the chat and show description. If you like what you've seen us rocking on the show, head over to gillsareenamerch.com for the latest. All right, guys, let's move on to one of your favorite subjects. I'm going to talk about one of your favorite coaches in the league. So back in January, Doc Rivers replaced Adrian Griffin as the Bucs head coach,

signing a $40 million deal through the 26-27 season. The Bucs were 32-14 last season before Doc took over, going 17-19 in his 36 regular season games at the helm before getting knocked out by the Pacers in the first round with Giannis sidelined for the entire series. So during a recent interview with The Athletic, Rivers had this to say about his coaching career and criticism that he's fallen short of expectations at times, saying, quote, but I've never come up short in my opinion. Come up short? What does that mean? Like we didn't win

a title? I go back in Philly. I took that job after we lost in the first round 4-0 to the Selchuk in 2020 under then coach Brett Brown. The next year, we win the East in the regular season. All right. We are one game away from the Eastern Finals. So there's times where I'm like, we're being evaluated on a different standard. And the great news is I've created that standard. So for me, that's good. But then when the narrative

comes that you can't do it, that's bull ass. Because I've done it and I can't. I'm trying to crush less on this show. It's just hard to do it. It's just hard. So I've always looked at it that way. So Rivers went on to say, listen, I'm eighth in wins. I'm fourth in playoff wins.

My dad used to say something. If somebody said something you would never listen to, why would you ever pay attention to it? Know what I mean? My numbers don't lie. I've coached for 25 years. I've had two losing seasons. And the two losing seasons, we were trying to effing lose.

Yeah, so I made the playoffs. Whatever. I don't even know. 21 out of 25 years. It's almost like Deion said in that interview. There's nothing you can say or do that's going to take away from what I've done, and I'll never allow that. But, he did add, having said that, I want to do more. And to do more, you

have to put yourself in situations where you're going to be criticized if you don't do it. And I'm fine with that. So, Rivers did lead the Celtics to a chip in 2008, but his 113-108 in his postseason coaching career has blown an NBA record 3-3-1 leads,

and is 6-10 in his career in Game 7. So, we're going to use this time to play a game of Facts or Cap. Kenyon, we will start with you. Doc Rivers has never came up short in his coaching career. Facts or Cap? I'm going to say Cap.

Why are you saying Cap, Kenyon? Okay, Mark. In the overall scheme, no. He's been an NBA coach for 25 years. He was an NBA player. His son played in the NBA. So all those things, like, no.

But 3-3-1 series leads, right? In that regard, yeah, you did, brother. Like, I'm going to be the one that's, yeah, you, yeah, you came up in that regard, yeah. So I would say cap, but over in the grand scheme of things, no. But to see the black man head coach and this, that, and the third and be able to consistently get a job, whether he wins or loses or whether what he done the year before whatever that's says a lot yeah, so you got a tilt your hat to that but

if we're talking about winning in the playoffs and playoff series and being up and Yeah, getting the job done getting the job the job done. Yeah, you came up short. Well, Cheryl, we'll switch it over to this side of the couch. Doc Rivers has never came up short in his coaching career. Facts or cap? Oh, I like Doc Rivers. I kind of agree with Kenyon. Like, in sports, whatever sport that is,

like the ultimate goal is to win a championship, right? Or no? Yeah. Should be. Yeah. And so anytime you're in a position to be able to do that or you make it to in the playoffs but you don't finish, then to me you're coming up short. So I'm going to say cap.

And Gil, now let's bring it over to you. Doc Rivers has never came up short in his coaching career. Facts or cap? Cap. Can you give us a little more, Gilbert? That's it. What Kane said. And what Cheryl said.

Oh, he, listen. One thing for sure, two things. I think he's used all his words on Doc Rivers. Who this? He's used them all. I'm happy to see y'all calling him Doc again. He was- Oh, he's definitely, he's definitely,

listen, we're talking about Doc here. I think he's used them all. I'm happy to see y'all calling him Doc again. Oh, he's definitely. Listen, we're talking about Doc here. I think he's used all his words in the last eight months. Yeah. So when it comes to Doc, we're going to save his money today. You're not getting fined. No, I'm talking about him. Oh, he got some choice language that we no longer allow on this couch to hurl out. Yeah, a few.

You don't go and let a few fly in order to describe what you're feeling about Doc. I don't want to expand. Nope. Nah. Nope. Gil's a changed man in season three. No, he's like, I'm good.

I don't want to expand. Next! That Bucks coaching job might be open in the near future. Gil will put his name in the hat. But when it comes to Doc Rivers never coming up short in his coaching career. Stop the cap. So we asked the chat. Doc Rivers has never come up short.

86% said cap. So it's unanimous across the board. But now let's shift to this season. Obviously, Bucs, two first-round exits the past two seasons. Doc took over a team from Adrian Griffin that was successful at that point. I believe they were 30-13 with Griffin. Then Joe Prunty took over for a couple games. And then Doc ran the show.

Like we mentioned, 17-19 in those 36 games. Does Doc have the hottest seat of any coach entering this season? Nah. I don't think so. Probably J.J. Redick. Yeah, he got another year. You think J.J. don't have a honeymoon period with this squad of at least

a season? Because he got two years, dude. Listen, man, that man got a... What that contract is, y'all know it. Win or lose. Yeah. Two years. Go ask Frank. Frank got a chip. Two years, dog. It ain't...

No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That man got a two-year interview. Wow. And Bucks with all that bread tied up with Boone Hoser, tied up with Adrian Griffin.

Somebody caught him. $40 million tied up with Doc. One of y'all coaching. One of y'all going. Yeah, one of y'all going. I'm paying. One of y'all coaching. He's staying.

They ain't going to pay nobody else right now. Doc good to go. Well, get out the first round, maybe. Get out the first round. That's the best they have been. Is that what? The bar. Is that the bar down there?

It's the set. I'm going to ask you. Who are you talking about? Glenn. Winning the chip 2021. Nah, we get out the first round. Hey, that is improvement. That's not coming up short.

Comparables. He didn't win it. The organization won it. He didn't win nothing. So let's talk a little bit about that organization coming in this season. So Rivers and the Bucks' quest to not come up short this season has already hit a roadblock. According to Shams, three-time All-Star Chris Middleton

is expected to miss the season opener against the Sixers on Wednesday as he continues to rehab from off-season ankle surgeries. With the Bucs cautiously progressing Middleton towards a return, so he sprained his left ankle back in February, missed the next 16 games, then sprained the right one in Game 2 of the Bucs' first-round playoff series against the Pacers. Middleton underwent surgery on both ankles in the offseason. Thank you.

That's both, right and left. I'm glad, because he just said surgeries. It's like he had multiple on one. No, one on the left, one on right. But at different times, I believe he had the left one in May, and then the right one later in June. It's kind of hard to do, having it at the same time.

Hey, get that? A little hard to do. Yeah. Having them at the same time. Hey. A little hard to do. Get that going. But he's only appeared in 88 regular season games the last two seasons. Last season he averaged 15 points, five rebounds, five assists in 55 games. But battled through the injuries in the playoffs, averaged 25, nine rebounds, five assists. Obviously down the sideline, Dame hurt. So how concerned should the Bucs be with Chris Middleton's health

entering this season? The stuff that – has it been the same thing consistently over the last couple seasons? 2023 was a knee. It was a knee, so yeah. So I – if it was ankles then and ankles now, I would say yeah. Something different. Hopefully it would rectify the problem.

Is that what was happening with, was it Derrick Rose? Sawed off with his knee, then went to his ankles? I'm not versed. Or was he twisting his ankles, then messing his knee up? I'm not versed in Derrick Rose. I thought he hurt his He needs to get healthy first and foremost. Because he can... Chris Middleton, very, very, like, very, very, very good NBA player. You can go... Yeah.

They're a different team when he's healthy. Yeah. And coming off of one injury or surgery and then dealing with another one, like, that's tough to come back from and be 100% healthy, especially if they try to rush him back. But I think when Middleton is healthy, he gives the Bucs a completely different look. Yeah.

So we've heard Giannis make comments last summer, this summer, most recently saying they didn't win a chip He was joking, but he said it wouldn't chip he might get traded So good view the Bucks right now how concerned are you about this squad still not necessarily being a full strength? Coming in the season after the disappointments in the previous two seasons I Mean it's concerning. I mean you you know, you got high hopes for how you was looking forward to the season with everybody being healthy.

So the fact that Middleton is starting the season off with foot injuries that he's rehabbing, and they're going to have to baby step that back, you're playing basically the whole season with just two stars? Well, two stars, but one thing they do, they have somebody that will shoot that bitch and not afraid. Porter? No, Gary Trent Jones.

Yeah, but he's... He not... But he going one thing for sure, two things for certain. He can have some games. He can't... I'm just... He can have some games where he's that. He gonna be that consistent, like, 17, 18, though? I think he can. Yeah, I'm just saying, he can have some games where he's that. He gonna be that consistent like 17, 18? I think he can.

Yeah, I think he can. So with all the attention Dame and Giannis gonna get, I think he can be around that. And then with Chris average last year, he averaged 15. I'm saying, Mildred averaged 15 last year, so he can beat 15, 18. As long as he's healthy by playoffs. Yeah, he Adams was 15 last year, so he can be 15, 18. He's healthy by playoffs. Played 55 games last year, like we mentioned.

You see how he looked in the playoffs. So if you're the Bucs, does that give you hope that, yo, when we see him at his highest level, it didn't matter? Yeah, because you know what he can do already. They paid him for that. He got paid because they knew who he was when they had Drew there still. So he was number two at the time when Drew was there. So very capable, went healthy like we know. But that seems to be the ongoing theme nowadays. He's really good when he's healthy.

When he's healthy. Right? And at any point seeing the Bucks consider trying to make a move or is he going to be tough right now because of the return you're going to get? Got to see what he look like. Yeah, for him it's obviously one of the show. But if he's healthy, you hang on to him. Right? If he's healthy, you hang on to him.

He has a rapport with Giannis that Dame don't have. That they haven't built yet. Yeah, that they're still working on. So wherever you throw Chris Middleton in there, he has that. He knows when Giannis drives, where to be, what's Giannis' favorite passes, what angles and things,

spacing and certain things, he's done it. And they wanted why he was so... Yeah, having him there, having certain things. He's done it, and they want it. So having him there and a part of it would be key. But like we all said, he has to get healthy first and foremost in order to be the player that they need. Like we discussed, we talked about Giannis' comments, what he said about this squad. Obviously the past two playoff disappointments hurt both of those years. Trey drew good day.

Drew ends up on the Celtics, probably the last place as a member of the Bucs that you would want him to go. But, Sharon, when you look at Giannis and even his future with the Bucs, with this squad, how imperative is this year in the Bucs being successful this year and making a postseason run to Giannis wanting to stay around? I mean, he's not getting any younger.

I mean, no one on the team is, obviously, but I think when you look at Kenyon just said it too, with Chris Middleton and Dame, you've got to start wondering how much time this crew has together to be able to win a championship. And if I'm Giannis, I'd probably start looking at,

if we don't do it, what does that look like? Where do I go? And this is a question. I wonder how much Giannis' brother being on this team affects

where he wants to go. Do you know what I mean? Because is that a package deal? Giannis and his brother? Yes. Right. And so the Bucs are like, all right, we got you. But will other teams look at that situation and say,

we want you and we'll bring your brother too? So let's talk about Thanasis, a.k.a. Thanasis. So Gil, last week on this very show, you said besides Giannis, Thanasis was the most important person on the Bucs roster. So after suffering a torn Achilles back in May, the Bucs opted not to bring him back as he's expected to miss the entire season. Bucs roster is currently at the 15-player max,

but there are reports the team may look to make a trade to open up a roster spot to re-sign Thanasis. So, good, would it be smart for the B Bucks to bring Thanasis back into the fold despite his injury and him not being available for practice or games likely for most of this season? I didn't know he was available

for practice and games before. I think he was... Usually he was just there for Giannis himself. Yeah. So that's what he was there for. So it's in their best interest to, um. Bring him back.

Bring him back. Don't know how, don't care how, make it happen. So do you get rid of someone to make room for him, even though you know he's never going to play. Well, the person, that number 15. How about you took the words right away. We had this conversation on this very, about the 15th player, and he don't matter, unfortunately.

He matters to certain people. Yeah. That 15 guy matters to the team more than if the Nassus is that. In the grand scheme of things. Yeah. And you've also talked about his value. Obviously, we had a conversation earlier this year about a P.J. Tucker when he was dealing with the situation at Clippers

versus having a guy like the Nassus who's just happy to be there, morale, pumping guys up, keeping the locker room, and most importantly, keeping Giannis, their franchise player, happy. But with leaving Brighamton, that's going to be enough. Would that change your opinion about how you think the Bucs will fare in the Eastern Conference this season, Gil? Previously said, what, they wouldn't finish higher

than fourth? Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, with Philly doing what Philly's going to do, you know, that can, with Philly doing what Philly's going to do, you know, that can be a fight for third. You know, them missing Middleton, you know, hurts them too. You know, so it's not like, you know, two teams is coming in really healthy. That's supposed to be championship contenders.

Without PG, obviously, we have Philly. It's basically whoever gets off to a hot start while their guys are, you know, coming in and out and one guy's injured. So the fact that you don't have Middleton and, you know, the Nass is not on a team that could hurt Giannis, right? This would be, what, the first year

that he doesn't have him? I think this is way back, yeah. And that he doesn't have him. Makes his way back, yeah. And then when he didn't have him during one playoff series, they said he freaked out. I don't want to... I wouldn't even take the chance. Giannis said he freaked out? No, somebody said, who was on the team,

said, Giannis. Where's my brother? Very close-knit group you know yeah when he came to the NBA he came to the NBA only to get them passports so you know it's I'm mad at him but looking at the Bucks first five games they kick off the season Wednesday in Philly I Then have a home game Friday against the Bulls. They go back to Brooklyn to play the Nets. Then have to go to Boston to play the Celtics. Memphis to play the Grizzlies.

And then I'm just going to throw it in there. They got the Cavs coming into town. But how do you think you guys talk about the importance of just starting right? What do you anticipate the Bucs in those first five games looking like? Because I say besides the Nets. Well, they're going to lose wins. What else they do after that? I don't care.

Say what? They're going to lose wins. That's all I'm saying. You think so? I'm talking about. But for you guys, guys obviously playing the league, how important is it to get a hot start in those first five, ten games to help just set the tone for the season and get you on the right track? Yeah, it's that first five.

Five, ten. I mean, ten. How are you breaking the season down for that initial surge and where do you want to be, let's say, after 15 games? 15 games, yeah. I mean, I guess when you're winning teams, those first five games don't matter to you. Don't matter to me.

When you're a bad team, you lose 0-5, it's over. Yeah. We tried. Rough start. Yeah, we tried. That's a rough start. We have seen teams start. Yeah.

2-10. Make runs. That's tough. Overcome the odds. Yeah, but you know what? You are, though. You start two and ten. That's... But if you're veterans, you're not really worried about the beginning of the season.

Only the young teams, if they start off bad, it's over. They got so much hope coming in and when they get hit in the mouth real early, it's over, right? Because they got so much hope coming in and then when they get hit in the mouth real early, it's like, all right, we good. All right, next year. Well, it feels like different your guys' time too. It wasn't so much the low management,

all that type of stuff. So you knew guys, even if they weren't 100%, they were going to be available to play. Where now that you talk about a team like the Sixers, you know, we know Embiid. We know a guy like Embiid may only be available 60-65 games this season. That's cool. He'll be really good in them 60-65 games.

Most definitely. But I'm saying, but you want to give yourself some cushion early on now, so come. Yeah, you want to get out the gates. But you, so this is how it goes. If you made a deep playoff run last year, you expect to hit the ground running because you brought back most of your guys.

If you were good but had an injury and you lost early in the playoffs but you were expecting to do something, you were supposed to hit the ground running the next season. Coming out the gate, not looking back, running them off, starting the season undefeated, you 9-0, 8-1, stuff like that to start the season like that next season. Those teams, yeah, you expect your record to be reflected

of the team that you have. And like Gil said, bad teams, you didn't make the playoffs last year, you're in the lottery. Coming into that next season, your expectations are not great. So for you to start,

just call it seven and three. You know what you have over there still, so it's like, at any day, reality going to kick in and we're going to lose 12 straight. It's going to be something like that. It's coming.

You know what you have over there and you're an injury away or you're something away from being back in the lottery. That's what it's been, man. Eyes don't lie. You know how long it's taken teams to get out the basement to get into the playoffs?

Go ask Sacramento. Go ask Cleve. Go ask some of these what's had to happen in order for them to climb out the basement of the NBA. Generational talent has to happen. And let's shift it. It just don't happen, man. But the team that's expected to be good,

Boston expects to be good this year. They expect to get out the game. They're going to start on 9-1-10-0. Philly expected to be good. New York expects certain things. Denver expects certain things. Oklahoma City, Minnesota, Sacramento. These teams, they are expecting to hit the ground running.

Did you say Los Angeles? He did. I did not. Clippers? He did. I did not. I'm just like... I knew you were going though.

Going where? I'm just like... Yeah. Go ahead. But you know the team. You can count them and throw the sleeper teams in there that Jai didn't play last year, so you don't know.

So with certain things, certain situations, you're like, this could be, but like we said, Chicago got a chance, because where they've been the last couple of years, they've been eight, nine, 10, like the last couple of years. They can do, but for the most part, you know what teams are and what they gonna be.

And the really good teams, we look forward to playing them really bad teams early. And unfortunately, the NBA does a horrible job at time scheduling those games. So I understand for ratings you want good teams to play good teams early. But let's get in game shape before we have to go play one of these teams. I think they've obviously added the in-season tournament, things like that to try to bring some excitement back to some of these matchups.

But obviously, I know you're not a fan of. Yeah, I think if you're a fan, you're just happy that the season's coming back anyway. So, you know, you don't really, the matchups these, my team is playing who we lost to in the championship. It doesn't excite me to go there early to take a loss. Like, I just lost the championship.

Then I got to start off the season against them. That's stupid. I mean, as a fan, I'm not excited about the season. They get in their ring. They get in their ring and we got to sit there and watch them. No, they don't. If you're a Cowboy fan, you don't want to play the Chiefs or the Ravens first game. Like, fuck.

Well, they had them playing each other first. I know. Yeah, but I'm saying, if you're a fan, that's not the team you want to play first. Like, you look at your tickets, like, oh, God damn. So we starting the year off like this. I'd rather just. You want that squad to be 6-7-0. Yeah, let me be 6-7-0.

Let me get my tickets in. Maybe also you're like, let me get this shit out the way. Oh. No? Oh. If you. San Antonio does not want to play Denver first, I can tell you. You want to play Denver.

What about that little, that little piece of, damn, but what. Does it mean anything if you play them and you beat them? No, it's game one. Nothing. So then why does it matter that you're playing them and you lose? Because a loss means, a loss can start off your season bad because people can go. But a win can start off giving you a lot of confidence too.

Now you're bad. Now you won 22 games last year. Like if Houston starts off 10-0, they will be hard to beat moving forward because their confidence is going to reflect moving forward. So now they're going to be like Sacramento was two years ago and Memphis was two years ago, right? Their swag came into every game.

Just, we are the team. We're one of the best teams in the league that's how you want to start off the season right versus i'm playing these top teams and now i'm oh and five and now i gotta play these sorry teams now i'm five and five first 10 games of the season i basically suck now you gotta now the back end of the season, I basically suck. Now you got to... Now the back end of the season is harder because now you need all those games. Like, I don't want to see the champs... You playing meaningful games April 10th.

You're like, got to win this to get like... That's my birthday, Kanye. The championship team don't... The championship don't... Who's Boston playing? Oh, they got New York? They said, Boston don't care because they the champs. If you're the New York Dixie and you just got this trade,

that's not who you want to play first. So you're saying New York does? They're trying to get off to a high start. You're trying to get off to a high start. I understand that. You don't want to play them first. You want to play Charlotte. But New York could also be like, you know what?

New York want to play them first. You want to play Charlotte. But New York could also be like, you know what? New York want to play Charlotte first. Let's show everybody that the trade we made, all of that. Let's go beat up on the Hornets. Absolutely. Let's go show them. Let's go feature Carl Anthony Towns against the Hornets. But now think about all that energy you put into it, and then you take an L.

And then the next night, you got to play Philly. Then the next night, you got to play Philly. Then the next night you got to play Bucks. Now you start the season 0-3. What you think them fans is talking about? Well, New York fans are different. You want to play Charlie? You want to play

Blazers? You want delusional fans coming out. Oh, we 6-0. Yes, our chipset. From a fan standpoint, I get it. Fans coming out. Oh, we 6-0. Yes, Arch. Chip's sitting there. Oh, that part. From a fan standpoint, I get it. But from a player's perspective...

We believe the hype. No, but I'm like, you know what? Shit. Let's go. Nick's first five, Gil, at the Celtics tomorrow. Pacers come to town Friday. Cavs come Monday. That's a playoff team.

Then they go play the Heat, and then they have a game in Detroit against the Pistons. That's going to be a tough game, man. Detroit ain't going to listen. Yeah, but I'm saying you can possibly go 1-4. But you've also seen how Knicks fans react when they win that opening game. Streets is going crazy.

Henny's flowing. You can go 4-0 or you can go... 0-1-4. You can start off 0-4. 2-2. 3-1 at best. But they won't start off 5-0. You don't have to.

But you would like to. I would like to. But you don't have to. But you would like to. I would like to. But you don't have to. You could go 4-1 and still be like, damn, this was a good run for us. Absolutely. I'm with you. Let Boston say, they need to do a trivia and say, Boston, here's the schedule.

Pick your first 10 games. Well, I guarantee you they won't be meaningful. They're going to want to go 10-0 first, get their little swag about them. Who didn't make the playoffs last year? Let's start there. Let's start from the bottom. Who was in the lottery? Let me get Wizards.

Let me get Wizards three times. Go ahead and knock these out. What happens if the Wizards beat them? Oh, yeah. Shit, that's... That's anomaly. We're sitting there looking at life. I mean, if they do, then what? I mean, Kyle Kuzma had anomaly. We sitting there looking at it like, yeah.

I mean, Kyle Kuzma had 45 and Jordan Poole had 39. That hurts. But usually that's... That's usually what happens. A bad team will usually get a good win. I remember I was in... That's happened. I think I was in... When I was in Golden State, I think we won our first game.

And then we lost the next sem. Did you turn up that one night knowing what was coming? Yeah, we was talking championship. Playoffs. After what? Whatever. What? Well, yes, we were.

That's a good start, fella. Hell yeah. If you were talking championship after that one win. Y'all were excited. Then we beat a good team, too, right? What? What are you talking about? This was your rookie season or your second?

It had to be the second because I didn't play my rookie season. I don't know who the hell we played. Booted or booted. Let me pull it up. The day we played the San Antonio Spurs. Played the Spurs. Beat them. Played the Spurs, beat them, then proceeded to lose to the Sonics, Jazz, Mavs,

at the Spurs, Hornets, Rockets, before getting your next win in Game 8 against the Grizzlies. See? But there's the Spurs, the 2002-2003 Spurs. And the Grizzlies was just moving to Memphis? Was that... Kind of, yeah. Right? We'll get to your point. Because we beat them by eight.

I mean, we went down there and lost by 20, but think about it. 2002, 2003 Spurs. Tim Duncan and them. Yeah, them. So y'all beat them by eight. We beat them by eight. We beat them by eight. Game one, our game one.

Championship. Couldn't tell us nothing. No shit. That could have been us. K has already previously made reference to that final. Could have been us. Easy. They beat y'all too, damn it.

Hey, they beat y'all too, damn it. Hey, they beat y'all too in the finals. They beat everybody. God damn it. So let's shift back to the Bucs real quick. We asked the chat,

should the Bucs bring back the Nassus? 61% said yes. Y'all notice, after you made that take, a lot of other people were talking about the Nassus again.

I'm not going to say no names, but we see everything that's going on. All seeing eye. But let's talk about another player on this Bucs squad who's looking to bounce back. Let's talk about the Bucs some more, but I really want to ask this, Gil. You, like,

you being a dominant scorer at your position. Sort of like what Dame is, right? Yeah. Would you consider y'all game not the same but similar? Really aggressive offensively. Mm-hmm. What's the most assists Dame has averaged?

Maybe, what, six? Five, six. Six, right? Mm-hmm. Eight. Huh? Eight. His career high is eight?

Career high is eight. What year was that? If you don't mind me. Oh, okay. Other than that, that's high for him. Mm-hmm. Does Dane make people around him better? And did you consider, did you, like, what... What...

Tuan averaged 20? Mm-hmm. Karan averaged... 19. 19, right? Besides CJ, right, how long did Dame play with Lamarcus? It was early in his career. It wasn't Dame-Dame yet.

I want to know why that didn't work, why that couldn't work. And does Dane make people around him better? To be able to share the ball, like, to let a guy go average 20, 19, in that regard. Okay, now now hell of a tatter like i listen don't i'm not taking anything away from the skills of what he's done with his career it's just i've i've wondered this offline and i've had conversations with people offline about it now we're here i just want to know like minus cj because you he didn't make CJ. He didn't help CJ get better. CJ was what he was when he came in. He was going to be that, I think.

So minus CJ. It's easier to just say it like this. He hasn't perfected how to score easier so it don't look like you're not getting everybody involved. So the trick with me scoring 29 and them scoring 20 is I played the free throw game and I played the we're in a penalty, you can't touch me game.

Okay. Right? So I'm not trying to be aggressive in the first six, seven minutes of the game. Right? That's Antoine and Karan. So what I did was I'm passing the ball to them, let them do all the getting fouled.

Now when they're in each quarter. Yep. Now when the end of the, once them do all the getting fouled. Getting each quarter. Once we get a penalty, now my green light comes on because now I know you have to play defense different. Now shots are becoming easier. Now I can get to the free throw line. That's not a shot attempt.

I get to the free throw line. I have to play that type of game versus just coming out, taking three, four shots, because now those three, four long shots, and you're missing them, look selfish. Yeah. So I don't think he's figured out how to pick it. Let Giannis do Giannis, and then piggyback off of that.

That's going into my second part of my statement in question. It's a statement in question. It's a statement in question. It affects them. It affects Giannis. It affects the way he plays. It affects Dame and the way he plays. They haven't had enough time to try to figure that out.

And when it gets time for winning, they haven't had time to figure it out, so it's still going to rear its ugly head. Man, I would hope that, you know, you're a smarter player than that because your first year, who did y'all have there?

Steph. And then what happened? We traded him for J.K. And who else did you add on the team? Richard Jackson. Just a rookie. Kerry Kittles came back. And Kerry Kittles came back.

But you played with Kerry Kittles, right? No, he missed my rookie year with an injury. So y'all went from probably what? How many games y'all won? 26. 26, and you just add Jason Kidd, Kerry Kittles coming back, and a rookie that you probably didn't plan on playing,

and then y'all a finals team, right? Um... Steve Nash goes over to Phoenix, and then they won 60-something games. Mm-hmm. You... You would think that they can figure it out without that much time. That's what makes the players great.

That's what makes them great. So I would hope that he can figure out how to make it work because it's on him. It's on him to make it work, not Giannis. Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. It's on him. This has nothing to do with Giannis.

They've played together. It's you to come in and make it all work perfectly. That's what I'm... Yeah, I just... Because I'm... Yeah. There's a time and place where you shoot 30-footers. You know what I mean?

Like, we know you can make them, but that's not... I get exactly... Yeah, because it's... Yeah, I've been watching and just, like, at times, like, just thinking about it, man, what is it? How is it going to look when it's time for winning? And you that's when your IQ start to my basketball brain started to like just situations who's

done what this that the who superstar play with this person join forces. You had to do it with Coop, right? You had to share that ball and share that end of game because both of y'all was hell of a finishers, right? Yeah, but I don't know why it seems to be different because we knew, though, game was on the line. Like, yeah, I wanted it, Tina wanted it, but we knew Coop was going to have it it but we knew Coop was gonna have it and we knew Coop was gonna have it because there was always this one play that we ran

everybody knew we were gonna run it but they couldn't stop it right and that was Coop with the ball Tina was coming to set a screen and I was on the weak side so Coop Coop was just so good like creating and getting through the defense and knowing what to do with it. She was going to finish. She was going to kick it to me. She was going to kick it back to Tina. So there was never, like, what you're talking about with Dame and Giannis

and when the game's on the line, like, it's going to rear its ugly head again. Because we were all like all right see that was a play yeah but there were so many options that we had out of it that it really it really didn't matter like who had the ball but like i totally understand what you're saying but that's why i was sitting here if you saw my face i was like i don't get it. Do you know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, like, whoever is going to make shit happen to get the dub, it's like, give them the rock. That was our mentality.

And so maybe it's different with men's basketball, women's basketball. I don't know. But yeah, that's hard for me to comprehend. Because it just didn't matter with us. Yeah, I just... Hence four championships later. Absolutely. Because it's been everything since Giannis has become Giannis.

Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Everything, end of game has went through him since Dame has become everything has went through him and

getting so just flatter me here. You, three games spread out. Giannis in the game winning situation, he don't make it. Fourth time, Doc drawing some shit up saying we're going to give it back to Giannis.

What happens? What thoughts? He probably going to run it. No doubt. No doubt. No doubt. That is... Do I... The problem is this is when history tells you what to do. It should.

Right? It should. History tells you that, oh, just play two-man game. Yeah. I'm with you. You know what I mean? I'm with you. I'm with you.

It becomes that symbol where it's, let's play two-man game, and if we have a third player that can do something, we're going to put him on the strong side, or we're going to run a double pick and roll, I mean, a double screen down for him on the weak side while this pick and roll goes. Like, in the last five minutes he was playing Utah, there was, you knew what they were.

It was a fucking free throw pick and roll. No matter what you were doing. If you're down it, pop. Shot. If he didn't shoot it, give it back off. Pick and roll. Throw it down. Shot.

Post up. Give it back. Pick and roll, throw it down, shot, post up, give it back, ping and roll, throw it down, come off, like it was just two people. Yes. Right? With Amari and Steve Nash, ping and roll. We knew what they were running. You know what I mean?

Let's stop it. If you're having problems trying to figure out who has the ball, then it's you. You got to. I'm with you. It's them two. I'm with you. Absolutely. I'm with you. Absolutely. You said it's on Dame to take the lead in that situation.

Giannis is always going to be Giannis. The Bucs are his team. But it's the second seed. But it's also the coach, though. No, that's the second seed. I don't know if it ain't on. The trainer's sitting first. Yeah.

The trainer's sitting first. People don't know what I'm referencing. The second seed, that's the head first. Yeah. The trainer's sitting first. People don't know what I'm referencing. Second seat, that's the head coach. Yeah. The trainer of the NBA, all the sports basketball team, they sit in the first seat. So I say the second seat, I'm referencing the head coach. So y'all know.

We appreciate it because, you know, a lot of us did not play in the NBA game. We appreciate it. But just for like this, when you're talking about like taking that next step and trying to get to know each other, you know, there's been teams that's taken an extra leap because they did things outside of the game with each other and hung out and, you know.

So I can't say if they have. It would have been great if those two was working with each other all summer on what they're going to do. And do you have a problem? Because it seems like, especially two ends of the spectrum, two totally different lifestyles, two totally different interests, two totally different... No. I mean, that makes... You know, that's the thing. You spent a summer away from each other, didn't get to know

each other during the season. That does make a difference. And you both worked on shit, right? But not together. So I don't know. It does make a difference. You working on pulling up, what's the name? He working on his shot. Yep. And y'all didn't work on y'all pick and roll? You didn't go and just pick that up in training camp?

Yeah, you got to end up playing some two-on-twos, Jack. Yep. If you want to do this, what are we going to do? Two-on-twos. Y'all guard. You're telling the defense how to guard it. Yep. Right?

You dictate on how to. Listen, I need y'all to guard it this way, this way. I need y'all to hard show, get back to y'all. I need y'all to switch this. I need y'all to down this. I need y'all to do this. I need y'all to switch this. I need y'all to down this. I need y'all to do this. I need y'all to guard this shit this way so we know when this shit get down, we...

But I'm giving y'all too much. They're about to double me. They're about to double me. You're going to pop or you're going to slip it sometimes, slip the first one so they have it in their mind so the next, you know, the next one's a pick and roll. And you even had a third defender out there where he rotate to Yon's and how y'all going to do it?

But that is also where... Hey, man, you want to go coach a team together, Gil? I think we can be pretty fucking good, man. That's also where... I could be the infatium host. It matters when you as teammates, like, you're spending that time together. Because there were times where we would go to a huddle timeout and

coach chancellor was like all right blah blah this we gonna run right time out we go back out on the floor and we get together like who you got the ball like this what we gonna do because it works and we know it works but that's where we've developed the trust in each other and i got the confidence in you that you gonna make the right play and I don't know if Dame and Giannis have that right now. And like you guys are saying, it wouldn't make common sense just to be

alright. We gotta make time. But we gotta be in here together. I'm gonna come to agree. Listen, you know what I just said, dog? Do we want this to work? Yes. We gotta make time. We gotta make... Y'all been done playing since work? Yes. Yes. We got to make time. We got to make, y'all been done playing since May.

Yeah. Late April, early May. Y'all didn't have two weeks. Y'all couldn't find two weeks from May until whenever y'all

started back up to take time out. On a vacation, some, you both got kids, go somewhere, vacation, find a gym. Go to Disney. Worldwide of sports,

right down there, big-ass facility. I rented it out before. Y'all named a lot bigger than mine was at the time, and I got to work out in there, so trust me. If there's a will,

there's a way. If they wanted to do it, they would have done it. No excuses on this is what we need to do. This is what we haven't got to do. Can't show up and admit that we haven't worked out together all summer. Just sounds weird. Not if you're trying to win a championship.

Not if you're trying to... Not even win a championship. To play well with one another. Let's figure out how we're going to make this work. The championship is the cherry. Let's figure out, for these 82, however many games we play together during the regular season,

we need to get ready for May. Let's get this together now, so we know how this is clockwork. The guy I played with, we played together three years, and it was clockwork. How much time did y'all spend together? There's a lot of talking.

Like, when I do this, do this. On the practice, okay. Spend a lot of time. I came, listen, if I do this, go. It's little things. Like, they got to... He's too athletic. Dame is too...

People not expect him to make certain passes. Things would work, man. Like, spin lobs. With Giannis, man, you have to implement these things. They don't... Even like a pick and roll. A pick and roll and you're doubling off of Giannis just... Low pick and roll, right?

It's little things like a low pick and roll, right? Free-throw pick and roll. I ain't even talking lower than that. And he dumps it in... That means somebody's coming from the weak side, running at him. No. We should set a pick and roll for J.K. So, for two things.

I set a pick and roll for J.K. on the block. He was on a post-up. And I would go set a pick and roll on the block for him. Go set a screen because what you're going to do. Yep, what you're going to do. It's going to either be a dunk, a lob, or he's going to get a wide open layup, one of the two. Or somebody will get a wide open corner three.

I used to run it for Melo. Same thing. We used to run a drop. If you play it a certain way, if he don't get right away, I come set a low pick and roll for him. He's too aggressive offensively. What you going to do? No one's expecting it.

He's going to get a wide open shot or I'm going to get a dunk. I haven't seen that. We haven't seen that play since then. We touched on this. Because nobody thinks about... Because the floor is so spread out now because the guys

shoot the ball so much better than we did. But what we did, we put Kerry Kittles over in the corner. You come off that man, you in too far,

he's going to throw it over to Kerry. Now you got a five man that shoots it that well over in the corner. So now you spread him, now he gots to be close to that shooter.

There's so much shit that you can do with the talent that they have. And I, like I said, there's no me sitting there watching the game and enjoying it. Because I see certain stuff during the game. I'm like, dude, why don't y'all run this? Or why don't y'all run, dude, man, throw the ball right here and run this. You make it too hard. Basketball is still simple math, dog. It's two plus two. They make it have to

be trigonometry and calculus. So we talked about this last week, but you guys talked about training camp preseason back in your day was what, three weeks of training camp, eight preseason games. You had a lot more time to kind of figure things out and work through things. Now it's like a week of practice. They're going right into it. I think five, six preseason games. You had a lot more time to kind of figure things out and work through things. Now it's like a week of practice. They're going right into it.

I think five, six preseason games. But how essential does it become? We hear about teams all the time. We see it a lot out here with Rico Hines up at UCLA. Whole squad will come through and get that work together. How important is it for guys to be able to get together in the summer now, knowing how much less time they have in training camp and preseason to figure out that chemistry?

It depends on who you are. It depends on what you got on your team. It depends on where you guys are trying to go, right? You know, because, you know, summer workouts together, you know, conditioning together, keeping each other accountable, you know, it takes you from, you can add eight to 15 more games, you know for your season And you know, sometimes that's all that needs is those that extra boost

so I think all teams should spend some time with each other in the summer and just not Flee and go work out on your own and come back and then you trying to implement a whole bunch of new you know i mean a whole bunch of new shit i don't work on all this we don't do none of that easy magic yeah relax starting to break you out there motherfucking trying easy magic yeah you don't you don't play you don't play with uh you know you don't play with the the slasher all here and i'm'm sitting here, you telling me, slash, that's what I do. And that's a lot of that stuff is nowadays because these guys are 19 coming in.

A lot of that stuff is from Summer and Rico and all that stuff for the young guys to learn how to play real basketball in a real setting with somebody who's going to hold you accountable. That's what that is for. A lot of that is for them young. So we're not going to come in here and work, but you're going to work the right way.

And that's what that is. And that's why I respect Rico so much with it. Before he became NBA assistant coach, that's what he was about. You're going to work out. You're going to work on what you're good at. Your individual skill set, We go enhance that I Need to tweak some things here and now I will But we're gonna get good at what you're good at first and foremost

And when did you guys learn how to work out the right way in your career? Like we talked about that window from draft coming in at rookie season, but when did you actually really learn? I Had before my senior year, like I got like, people know I got better every year when I was in college, but before my senior year in college, I put the time in and by the time I got, like when I got to the league, it was just trying to get better at certain things.

But of course injuries got in the way of that. But yeah, no, I, me learning how to work and how to do, when I was, like I said, before my senior year, I was locked in. I know you love to work out, but... I became more efficient at working out from Chris Mullin. So, you know, I'll sit in the gym, you know, four hours, you know. Oh, man. This is when I understood

why some players can't translate their shooting in-game, right? You know, you can shoot a thousand shots, but if you're shooting them a certain way and it's not your game shot, it won't translate. So, you know, I'm sitting on the shooting machine, shooting and shooting and, you know, he's like,

that's a waste of a thousand shots. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, alright, go to the half court. Full speed run, shoot. Ten times. 0 and 10. And he said, now that's the difference.

That's realistic. Yes. That's more game-like. And he said, you're practicing, you're training a practice shot, not a game shot. Yeah. Right? So being here three hours is kind of pointless if you just win a 100%.

So over exaggerate. How you're going to shoot in practice and slow down in the game. But if you should really slow in practice it never catch up to so you know I used to you know run to real spots and shoot right because now I got to train the drilling and rush, all the excitement of what the real game is going to play like. And that's why when people say, oh, they can't shoot, yeah, they haven't trained their game shot yet.

You know, all the sidesteps, shot. Like, if you look at Steph, it looks fast. Everything gets, because he understood the train. His game, his in-game shot, not this practice shot where he just, you know, spot shot and here we go. And then do the little methodical basketball. It's the same, like, with free throws. Because you can go in the gym and just stand there and shoot 50 free throws. Like, you're practicing your free throws, which I understand that.

But that's not how it's going to be in a game because in a game you're running around, you're tired. Yeah, then you're going to the free throw line. So that's when you've got to be able to step up and knock down free throws when you're tired, like in the rhythm of the game. But that's what a lot of players or people do when they're shooting. They don't make it very game-like when they're practicing. And that makes a big difference.

Yeah. Yeah, people, if you haven't seen work, if you haven't worked, like, seen an NBA, like somebody who you don't know what their work is, like, work to the point to you, yeah, throw up. People don't understand that. Right?

For you to, not nobody else pushing you. Right? This is you pushing yourself to the point where you very well much throw up. Because that's just what it takes. And to spend that kind of time yourself to the point where you very well much throw up. Cause that's just what it takes. And to spend that kind of time working on what you need

to work on and the conditioning part of it. Why are you doing that? Game speed, doing everything at that, that clip. It takes a lot, man. And yeah. People are afraid to get tired in practice. Yes. I remember, I remember. Yes.

I was having, you know, when we was getting the rookies in and they're like, I want to work out with you. I'm like, all right, we're going, we're going to shoot 500 shots today. 100, 100 threes from each spot. Why so much? I didn't know there was a, a cap on. I didn't know there was a... A cap on? I didn't know there was a cap on. How many shots you got? Like, the fuck? Why so much? Like, it was just so weird.

Like, what do you mean how much? Yeah. Oh, we got to do 100 line drills. Yeah. Damn, why so much? You're not trying to get in shape? Like, I don't get it. Like, the more you do, the better you are.

That's really how it works. And there's no such thing as a punishment. If I told you to shoot 1,000 shots each spot, that's not a punishment. When you're done with this, how much better do you think your shot's going to be? If I make you run 1,000 line drills, when you're done, I mean, the feet going to hurt like a motherfucker,

but when you're done, I mean, the feet going to hurt like a motherfucker, but when you're done, your wind is going to be amazing. And I don't think people understand that. People work out to not get tired, but they think they're going to get better. Like, when you're done with practice, you should be laying on the floor. Day one to day 365. If you're not laying on the floor, just do more. Yeah. I did one line drill, I'm tired.

Tomorrow, three. I'm tired. The next day, seven. That's what I'm getting tired at. I'm not getting tired at one no more. Now it takes seven for me to get tired. And you just keep bumping it up. You never let it catch up.

And people don't really realize that. It's real. No, being, man, making it, this shit hurts. Hurts. Being good hurts. Never, it never feels, ever. You shouldn't be hurting. Shit hurts. It never feels good, ever. You shouldn't be hurting. Shit hurts.

All right, so we got some breaking news to report in the arena concerning one of KJ's former teams, the Houston Rockets. Young Rocket is getting his bread right. So according to Shams, Jalen Green has just agreed to a three-year, $106 million rookie extension with the Rockets. The third year will be a player option. This news just dropped moments ago. So there was talks previously about the Rockets not extending Shang-Goon or Jalen Green on their rookie deals until after the season,

given the CBA and the cap flexibility and all that good stuff. Got that deal done. Three-year, 106. Third year is a player option. I see your face right now, but let me just keep reading it. So last season, Green took a big step forward, averaging 20 points, five rebounds, four assists in 82 games on 42-33-80 shooting splits. Rockets were 41-41 last season, 11th in the West,

but they went on 11-game winning streak back in March, most of that with Alper and Shane Goon sideline, and there's playoff chatter surrounding that team for the first time since James Harden left. So, Kane, I saw your face at that news. What are your thoughts on Jalen Green agreeing to a three-year extension

with the Houston Rockets for $106 million. Only 22 years old. I don't like it. Aaron and Jalen got the same agent. Yeah. With KJ, I said. Yeah. KJ and Aaron. KJ and Jalen got the same. Aaron Yeah. With KJ, I said. Yeah.

KJ and Aaron. KJ and Jalen got the same agent. Aaron Mintz over at CAA. Got the same agent. Montclair Prep Legend. Done an excellent job, man, overall. I don't want to question his work, but. We appreciate you for disclosing that, but.

Yeah, I get you want to do what's best for your client in that moment. Jalen didn't have to agree to it. He could have played it out, been a restricted free agent this summer. But we talk about this with a lot of guys around the league. Taking this bread now, better yourself, have a, you know, improve on the numbers. I'm Jalen Green in this moment. Because the team is made for him to do that.

Like, he is the best player on that team. Shang-Goon is not, but... You feel like... I've seen it. So you feel like Jalen Green better player than Shang-Goon? Yeah. Talent-wise, absolutely. What class is this?

2021? One. Yeah, 2021. Second overall pick In that draft Yeah K was first right K got 220 Yeah

That's The problem right Yeah that's the Where I'm My mind I like I wanna Whoa

But I Shangoon The 16th pick in that draft. You can't get nobody else's pocket, but you can't... We're on the same contract. That's tough. We're on the same contract, that's basically. K signed five-year, $224 million.

That's tough. But with the caveat that this deal gives him some more flexibility down the road to sign a bigger extension. Okay, I get it. Yes, absolutely. All I get it. Yes, absolutely. All those things exist. Yes, all those things exist.

I look at the talent. I look at the team. Hmm. I look at what... Was this an extension on his rookie? This is not the rookie max? No. No.

He got the rookie max. How is he not getting the rookie max? I don't know. Then what's that be? It seems like he opted for flexibility. Whatever mobile he gets. Length of time. He was

fourth in that draft, third in that draft, fourth in that draft. What is the rookie match? Evan Mobley signed a reported five-year $224 million extension back in July. That's the same draft. So why wasn't he getting that? Can everybody say that again?

Five-year $224 million. Evan Mobley was in that draft? He was in that draft. So he signed the rookie match. Third overall pick in that draft. So 224. So the first and the third pick. 224.

First pick. Third pick. 224. 224. Second pick 106. That doesn't make sense. Five-year 224 versus a three-year 106, but with that player option,

too, but I think with the potential. I know exactly what you're saying. I ain't never been a mathematician. I'm no math expert either, but I would imagine

after that two years he can sign an extension for even more in that, you know. Oh, you're going to sign a five-year deal

with an option after you're third. I mean, it works the same way. I mean, just. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just. Wow. Who's the fourth pick in that draft?

Let me pull it up. Fourth pick in that draft was Scottie Barnes. What'd he get? 220. I'm just. Hey, man. We're going to keep, I don't want to keep going here, but 220. But the trend is.

Scotty Barnes had a five-year, $224 million deal with the Raptors. I'm confused. Who was the fifth pick? Jalen Suggs. He's in a little different situation. He's trying to get some bread right now. But, yeah, I... I just wanted to know who...

I just wanted to know who... Kaminga, the seventh pick in that draft, also discussing with the Warriors now getting his bread up. Franz Wagner. Yes. Eighth pick. We know what he... They backed it up.

Briggs struck. Yeah, they backed that Briggs truck up. At least $224 million. Yeah, they backed their Briggs truck up. At least $224 million. Yeah, they got, yeah. So, yeah, so they all got the rookie max besides him. So why didn't you get him? And he's probably the, what, the, he's competing for, so far, probably, what, the second best?

On the team? No, in the draft? In that class? Absolutely. Wow. Him and, I mean, him and Cade is. Most talented. Like, you're not, at this point point because Cade averaged 22 this year.

Jalen averaged 22 last year. He took a dip this year because of Sangoon. Emerged, but that still can call it. Those two can play. Those two are. It can work. If you work at it, those two can play well. Scotty Barnes is the all-star, right?

Yes. Yes. Yes. So, I don't know. I mean. Francois, how do you pronounce his name? Franz Wagner. He is the all-star this year. Oh, yeah. I mean, this must have been something personal that he wanted to sign it

because there's nothing that makes him sign it. Yeah, I'm down. That's wicked. He would hit restricted free agency next summer. Sweet. I'm saying rocket

to match any deal. But worst case scenario. 200. He's getting more. I mean, worst case scenario going into this. He's getting more than 106. Yeah, I get it.

But we've seen with this new CBA guy. 200, 180. It's more than 106. Yeah. I get that. Like I've seen with this new CBA guy... 200, 180? It's more than 106. Yeah. I get that. Like, I said, I don't want to quit because of what Aaron has done for my child.

Like, yeah, but... I got to imagine, though, with TV money coming in, what that deal's going to look like. What I'm saying is you can't think about what's going to... I know, and we said the same thing. Because I can sign 224 right now and still have an option. Because it ain't even.

On my third year or my second year. Because you look at them dudes getting in their first three years of their deal with 224. It's math. Like I said, once again, I'm not a mathematician. One is averaging $44 million per year. One is averaging $35. So what I'm saying is I'll rather sign for the 224 and option out after.

And even if you're not going to give me a rookie max, give me the rookie, I mean, give me the max on three years. All those guys' extensions will kick in next season. That's crazy. Yeah, so Cade will be making 38 and 25, 26. By the time that deal ends, he didn't have a player option, I believe, in 2028, 29, he will be making 38 and 25, 26. By the time that deal ends, he didn't have a player option, I believe. In 2028, 29, he'll be at 48 mil.

Yeah, so to match it, he would have had to sign 132. Yeah. So at least give me that. Yeah, 132 for three. Right? Mm-hmm. So he gets to play two years, then option out? Yeah. Yeah.

But Green is the first according to espn uh first nba play ever to successfully negotiate a two plus one rookie extension on a nine-figure deal what does that mean okay so let me just read this for you because obviously context is king the three-year deal provides green with financial flexibility in the short term and the ability to earn more than 250 240 million total over the next five years more than the 224 million current maximum because of his extended eligibility as soon as october 26 and the ability to opt out at the age of 25 years old. Again, according to Shams over ESPN. So in the next five years, he'll get maxed out at 240. Versus the 224 that those other guys signed potentially. But obviously you guys know if and hope.

But when they opt out in three... I mean... Because they signed theirs last year. Uh-huh. No, this summer. This summer. So they're all signed this summer. This summer, yeah.

So in the second, so two years, then they have three. It depends on what that three... So that means he has to sign another three years. And it has to be more than what they would be making. So in the five-year span, he has to make more. So maybe, I mean, so it doesn't,

it probably just doesn't make sense today, but the extension for the next three years, so he signed two of them right now, then if he signs an extension, those two,

when the five years up, does it make more than 224? But like we talked about even with Brunson and his deal, it all has to work out, right? It has to. Just playing devil's advocate.

All of those things, what you're saying, true. What if K first team All-NBA? He's not making more than him. He's just,

like, he's just, you know what I mean? When they all eligible, one of them dudes, first, second team, All-NBA, and they up, right? He's not making more in that case. Yeah, I always look at it like, okay, so I know what you're going to make

in the next five years. This is what I'm making in two years. As I said, so he has to be able to jump in those three years. So we'll see then. No income tax in Texas, too. How much? I'd rather have no income tax on my 224. I'm just saying.

We are not mathematicians. I just like to say, I don't want to help, but Aaron know what he like to say, I don't want to, but Aaron know what he's doing. There's a method. And obviously, Aaron know what he's doing. He agreed to take it, but the math with what the other guys got in the class. The problem is Sangoon, too. So, the fact that he's making 106, Sangoon, you're going to have to be under him. Mm-hmm.

Do we expect Sangoon to get a deal soon, but do we also, if he goes out there and cooks, it's just easy? You would rather sign, if Jalen is the number one option, you got to negotiate with him first so you know where to place the second one, versus negotiating with Shangoon first,

and then whatever Sangoon gets, Jalen has to get more. So most likely, Sangoon's gonna probably sign a three-year 90 to 100. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that'll be what his deal looks like. And Sangoon, this past season, 21-9-5.

63 games. Shit, they might sign him on 106. Shit, he's going to be arguing for a little bit more than probably.

Man. Listen, Jack. But if you're Shane Goon, do you sign now with the deal that Jalen Green took to help the team

get better? You know, rah, rah, let's help the Rockets make this playoff push or you play this season out now. Go to restrict the free agents. You young, get your money first.

I'm with you, but damn, he's really good. Who, him? Sangoon. Oh yeah, he gonna make his money. He's really good at that. Ain't too many of him out there. You see? Do we feel like he's even like, hey, that's what you signed for, brother.

That could happen. Paul George. That's cool, that was nice, that brother. Like Paul George. That's cool. That was nice. That was cute. Paul George and Kawhi. My numbers say 224. Yeah.

What class did he come in? 2021. I think 16th pick that year. Jalen Green, too. He was 16. Dang, that's a hell of a draft for them, Dan. Well, I was there. You can get two and 16 for you. I witnessed it.

And your 16 pick is pretty good. Mm-hmm. All the time. I was telling people earlier, wasn't it, Joe? Like, hey, I was over praising that young boy from the lesson, man. I ain't saying he good. I ain't saying he Nicola.

I ain't saying he three-time league MVP, but hey, man, skill set, if y'all hadn't watched him. After a three-season sample size. I've been saying he Nicola. I ain't saying he three-time league MVP, but, hey, man, skill set? If y'all hadn't watched him... After a three-season sample size... I've been saying, I'll say, hey, y'all better go watch him if you don't know. $21.95. Because, listen, man,

I was a little disappointed in the fact KJ got... Hey, because a lot of them assists, KJ was cutting right time, diamond, a lot of dunks, and, hey, man. That's why Whitmore's playing so well. Just running with him in the half court? Because he's going to find you.

When you look at this season, this Rocket squad, like we said, 41-41 last year, 11th seed, but played great towards the end of the year with Shang-Goon's sideline for some of that period. Are they a playoff team, in your opinion, this year? And if so, that just, again, packs this Western Conference. Is everybody not going to make it?

We know who ain't going to make it, Joe. The Warriors? Facts. We know who's going to make it. Coach JJ. Who else in the West ain't going to make it? Clippers. Clippers. Clippers, Blazers. Clippers, boy. You know what I mean?

After that, the Clippers, boy. You know what I mean? I'm a bad. You're going to have a horrible time. After that. After that, them Blazers, boy. Them Blazers. That's three. That's three. Uh-huh. That's three. How many more teams we got left in the West?

I'm still waiting on the one. So here are the teams that didn't make it last season. Rockets, Jazz, Grizzlies, Spurs, Blazers. Jazz, boy. That is crazy. Oh, my God. You still waiting on one more? No, no. He said he's waiting for one of Jazz. They ain't going to. Jazz, boy. Crazy. Oh, my God. You still waiting on one more? No, no.

He said he's waiting for one of them Jazz. They ain't going to make it, man. No, he waiting on one more. Well, still waiting. But since you brought the Lakers, okay, we're not going to talk Lakers today out of respect for yourself. We had no plans. We're not talking Lakers.

We had no plans on any Lakers topic because they're not going to make it. We had no plans. But let's talk about some interesting news last week. With the Lakers starters in most of their rotation, including rookie Dalton Konek on Chilicus Island for their final preseason game against the Warriors on Friday night, Bronny James made his first start of the preseason, going up against most of the Warriors starters, obviously minus Steph Curry.

We always add context on the show. But Bronny did have his best performance as a pro. We got to show the video. So Bronny finished with 17 points, 4 rebounds, and 3 steals in 35 minutes of action. Just ignore the score of the game and watch the highlight. Okay, do not. It is preseason.

The Lakers rolled out their third-string crew against a mostly full-string crew. I guess a mostly full-string work squad. All those guys played a decent amount of minutes, not a ton. But like I said, Brownie, 17 points, four rebounds, three steals, and 35 minutes of action. Seven for 17 from the field, one for five from three. So coming into the game, Brownie had scored just eight points total in the preseason.

As a reminder, he's only 19 years old. I see a lot of people comparing him to other rookies in this draft. Some of those rookies, three, four years older than this man, 19 years old. 55th pick has been subject of much criticism during summer league and preseason as he adjusted to the NBA game, playing in the shadow of his pops, of course. LeBron Raymond, James Sr., in case you did not know. Gil, how much did Bronny need to have a game like this to show his critics that he can play in this league?

His critics? I mean, if he has critics being the 50-50 pick, something's wrong with them. Because it's a 50-50 pick. All second-rounders, there's no expectations on a second-rounder. The hardest job for a second-rounder is actually trying to make the roster, right? Because you picked me, but now there's G League, right?

You know, there's the G League where they can, most of them are actually headed to, right? So, you know, there's only a few that's signing for the 15th man roster, and usually your second pick is going to be number 15 and rotating to 16 and 17 spot, right? That's what the life of a second rounder is. So the critics, the critics, this is just easy bait for him. This is a game for himself, right? This was a game to prove

to himself that he can play in this league because that's all every game is about for most people. Are you good enough to be here? Do you deserve to be here? And most of preseason to himself is probably no.

Physically, yes. You can see the speed. You can see the strength. You can see him moving. He's making the moves. Everything else is just second guessing himself. So this is more about him and I think he finally got the answer because he's not playing

against the other draft he's trying to make it. He's playing against people he's watched TV against, right? So Draymond Green's there. Ooh, Wiggins is out there. it. He's playing against people he's watched TV against, right? So, Draymond Green's there. Ooh, Wiggins is out there. Kaminga's playing. So, he played against real NBA players

and the fact that he has 17, he made some good shots, right? He can finish the preseason like, okay, okay, okay, now, you know, let's get to regular season and let's wait for that opportunity where I can go in and get the confidence to show that I'm, like, I... Will he play?

No. No. You know, but just like any rookie or second-round pick, we get blown out by, you know, 30. I'm going to get in those games. That's where you're going to be seeing all this shit. We down 30, we up 30. You know, two minutes left.

It's going to be like that. Yeah, you're over there wishing. Wishing. Harm. What? Not physical harm. Yes. But you wishing we either blow somebody out or we get blown out.

It's one of the two. It ain't, listen. I hope we win every game, but listen, let that thing start getting, listen, don't let them be down, right, and then start making a comeback. Oh, my God. That's the worst. What?

You be sitting there, look, you down like 25, and it's like at the eight-minute mark. Y'all over there like, yeah, we're about to get in. This this get up for the timeout. Oh, I'm about to get in. Oh, damn. As a human being. Look at this sister.

As a human being that spent a lot of time on the bench, there is nothing worse than when you start feeling good. All right, we're about to go. Then that dwindles. Then it hits that, like, 45-second left in the game mark. It's like, nah, bro, I'm good, man. Just you're going to mess up my stats. I have no time to acquire a reasonable balance.

You want to be a rookie? You remember, like, that year Golden State, the starters are sitting? Yeah. That's the team you want to be on. What? Yeah. Oh, you're getting big. Woo, you're getting big. Well, I didn't be on. What? Yeah. Oh, you getting big. You getting big.

Well, I didn't do y'all. Yeah. But, you know, it's one of those things where I remember I played. I didn't score my first NBA basket till January 16th. We started Halloween. So, you know, you can put it in context, right? I didn't start... You were the 31st pick.

I was the 31st pick, so I was the second best prospect. Well, hold on. I was the first best. No, I was the second best. We didn't have the 30th. It was like the 29th pick we didn't have. Okay, you discount your first bucket.

Yeah, I didn't get my first bucket until January. Yeah, hold on. Yeah, let me confirm here, because you got free throws. Free throws. Yeah, I didn't get my first bucket until January. Yeah, hold on. Yeah, let me confirm here, because you got free throws. Free throws. Yeah, I got a free throw in Toronto. First bucket against Cleveland. January 16th. Against Cleveland. I remember I stole the ball.

Stole the ball. I was about to dunk that joint, but I was like, let me get my first one. You gotta remember, I started the season. Don't wanna miss it. I'm the only one. You know, because you know they're teasing you. Oh, you're going to that bitch and miss the dunk on the break. Oh, yeah, you won't play.

You know, because you know the rookie, they're teasing you every time you do get in. Is this going to be the day you get your first bucket? So you got all this pressure on. Man, Rook, you a... Man, Rook, coach calling real plays, and they over there like, shoot it, shoot it. You're like, no, they're telling me to run a regular offense.

Come on, Rook. Like, it's pressure. Gil, that was your fifth career game. It was the team's 13th game that season. Mm-hmm. So just go to show you too, you were not playing that much. You played four minutes in that game. Yeah, four minutes.

Yeah, I know, three for three. Or three for four. You missed a shot, Gil. I know. Three for three. Oh, three for four? You missed a shot. But one for one from three. But that's the road of the look. Played four minutes, got a shot up a minute. That sound about right. Yeah, I got four.

Sound about right. And I can tell you, my first. Did you shoot any free throws? I think you shot free throws in that game. So he was three for four from the field. Actually, no free throws. Three for four from the field, one for one. You got like seven shots.

Wait, in how many minutes? Four. Four minutes, 24 seconds. Gil, you guys won that game by 29. Yeah, but 29. So you know it. You were a plus one in the game, though. Because I was over here trying to figure out, like, damn.

Come on, coach. Three minutes, two minutes. Because, you know, like, I'm finally trying to get in. But that's the worst when you have that coach and y'all be up 30 steals. I ain't going to put y'all in. Like, my first moment when, and that's what I said, like, even if Bronny scores at the beginning, the first moment, it has to be meaningful.

And I can tell you the most meaningful game for me is we were playing Minnesota Timberwolves. And coach put me in at the beginning of the fourth quarter. So I think Larry caught a cramp or something, and coach had to hurry up and pull him. And Bobby Sword comes in at a certain time, so he was like, hey, Rook, go in. Hey, don't mess up.

Don't do nothing stupid. Right? I took, in three minutes, I had six of them. I had six points in three minutes. And the best part about it was Kevin Garnett was on the floor. It was Kevin Garnett. It was Wally Zerbiak. It was...

Who was it? Terrell Brandon. Right? I think Sam Kassell. No, not Sam. He wasn't there. It was another big name that was on the court. Chauncey Billups. Right? And I scored six. Six points against y'all. there was another big name that was on a court, Chauncey Billups. Right? And I scored six.

Six points against y'all. You entered the game. Yeah. At the 939 mark in the fourth quarter. I believe you guys were down four at that point. Yes, sir, hit a three. Down four. Think about it. Down four, that's it, coach?

You put me in? Got an and one. And one. Hit a it. Down four, that's it, coach. And you put me in. Got an and one. And one. Hit a three. What's happening? And one and a three on the bench. Yeah, y'all. You couldn't tell me nothing.

But that's what I'm saying. Because of the people who was on the court. And one and a three. You can't tell me nothing anymore. Like, that was my, oh, I can play in this league. And then next time, when I get that opportunity, I have the confidence. So, you know, I said this game, there was real stars on the court

when he scored the 17. It hits different. Yeah, that did a lot for his confidence. The fact that you... The fact that you remember that. Right? Damn. To me, that was sick.

Charles and Bill, if you ain't shit. The first game, verbatim. The second, like, you remember these, like, verbatim. He had a big career high, eight points in that game. That's what I said. Eight points in three? You remember that shit. That was my... I mean, like, I had to start... Like, I think I said, great points in three minutes. You don't remember that shit. That was my, I mean, I had to start,

I think I then, eventually I started against the Spurs. Started against San Antonio Spurs that year. February 22nd. March 18th, you had your first 20-point game. You had 25 versus the Bullets. The only thing I know is my first two games, my first game I was four for 16 from the field. My second game I was four for 16 from the field.

My second game I was four for 16 from the field. Like that I remember. I was getting them joints up. Like what, what, what? Should I see you over here laughing? Like what's the play? Like she over here like, damn y'all some brick ass, y'all some bricks. No, I mean it's impressive

that you could even remember that. Because that's the start, like, when you're in the second round. No, I just, I don't know. But it's easy for me to remember because it's the start of my career, right? You know, when you start off the season and, you know, you're benching, you're sitting there waiting, and, you know, now you get a free throw and then, you know, that ain't a bucket. Yeah.

Right? I mean, you ain't in history. So that was a thing. I don't feel the same. That's the thing. You went up there and shot the 10K. When you get your first NBA bucket, you are in the NBA. And then you don't remember your first NBA bucket?

Your first game at home against the Cavs, you played 30 minutes. You were four for 16, 10.7 rebounds to assist. Next game at home against the Cavs. You played 30 minutes. You were four for 16. 10.7 rebounds to assist. Next game, you were three for six at Chicago. Wait a minute. Is this as a rookie?

That is a rookie. And then your third game. I'm sorry. How many minutes did you play? 30. Oh, my first game, 30. 28 minutes your next game. Your third game,

you played 39 minutes. My third game, I played... Against the Hornets. I don't think I got 30 total. But fourth game, 39 minutes. My third game I played. Against the Hornets. I don't think I got 30 total. But fourth game, 39 minutes, you were 9 for 17. Came through with that 20 piece.

I was getting the bitches up. 27 for. Wow. So I don't like. You have to get them up as a rookie. Like connect. We sucked. Like connect will play. Yeah, for sure.

I think he's done enough. Like connect, connect, because he's usable right now in real time. So connect the play. Yeah, for sure. I think he's done enough. Like, connect because he's usable right now in real time. So connect the play. There be some, you know, second rounders that, you know, that's gonna get opportunities early. You know, with Bronny, like,

you know, right now you got D'Lo, you got a veteran team. So you're not, there's not gonna be, you're not coming in at the third quarter and say, go get D-Lo. Nah, that's not happening. Yeah, that's not happening. You know what I mean? So the narrative of he's going to average 10 or not.

No. Two or three. And that might be like, that was a good year. Absolutely, that was a good year for him. Will they send him down to their G League? No. No, he's about the mistake. No, he's number, he is actually number 15.

It'll be a mistake. Because there's nothing down there that's going to get him confidence from up here because there's not a Kevin Durant down there that's going to give him the confidence that says he's ready. He, you know, when he got that back door and Kevin Durant jumped and he did it, oh, that looks about right. That looks about right. That looked like when I came off the pick and roll and Robert Horry showed out

and I fell and lost the ball. Yes. So even if he was going to get playing time? Huh? He can go down there and play 48 minutes. 48 minutes. Come up here and go one for nine. It don't matter because he ain't going to learn nothing down there.

They're going to pick on him on the floor. They're going to be trying to take their day out on him. He's got some grown-ass men. They got four kids at home. No doubt. Job. And you're making way more money than him. Yeah.

Like playing two or three minutes in the NBA. That's way more valuable than being down there. Like it's not even that they're competing. They're going to hate on you from day one when you show up.

For sure. Off top. Because of who you are. Because of who you are off top. Right? Heaven forbid you go down there and not play well.

Because they will be watching. Just so people are really... They're already on his back for not playing well in summer league and preseason, right? And that's the funny part. In summer league, for a second rounder, he gets an A+. Yes. He gets an A.

I'm sorry. I don't know where y'all think he was. Like, for a second rounder at the 55th pick, his summer league is an ape plus. Absolutely. Preseason, I scored a total nine. That's right. Ronnie, at this point.

Yeah. He had 20. Like, dog, like. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. If people actually just did their research. Stop listening to the narrative. Do your research on the second rounders so you can actually see.

Like 17 points as a second rounder, I guarantee you that's top 20 ever since 1989. Scoring 17 points in a preseason as a second round pick. As that pick, though. Overall, yeah, but that pick in particular. That pick, I mean, shit, he's competing with, like, Patty and Niggaz and people like that. Yeah, but, you know, but it is that. Like, what do you think, like, we don't get in?

We're not getting in the game. We ain't in the scout report. They don't give a fuck if we warmed up or worked out. Half of us don't even have our jersey on. Like, you know how you, you know, you know how, like, when you see, like... When you see players come in and they don't have their jerseys on? Yeah.

The fuck I'm putting my jersey on? Because I know I ain't getting in the game. We're playing Boston-Selch. I'm not putting my jersey. I'm not getting in this game. I got 31 straight DNPs. What makes you think on game 32 that all of a sudden

in the third quarter, second, he gonna call my name? You just don't like feeling the jersey on there? I didn't have my jersey on. The fuck I'm putting it on for? As a bench expert, let me just tell you a little trick of the trade. If you take your warm-up off in your clothes and then you

sit on the bench, it looks like you may have gotten in the game at some point. Yeah, until they look at the, I know what it looks like. We didn't have statues back then. We didn't have a deep knowledge of the internet back then. I had the G-Unit undershirt on. And I remember one time we was up, we was up by some good shit.

And then I'm like, oh shit, I'm about to get in. Hey, hey, Bobo, can you go get my jersey? Put it on. Woo! Team came back, got it within 10. Nope. The G unit. It was a better time.

Me, so it's... Got on his bottoms that he wore to the gym. That I had to train, had to work out in. I mean, it's just. I've never experienced that. We know. We know. I knew you would not have much to contribute to this particular subject.

But I've had teammates, though. But you might have seen it. I've had teammates, though, where, like, they hear it, but they hear it. I'm like, damn. It's so real.

Because I had teammates, though, where I was like, they would do the same thing. I was like, girl, like, we're. Because I had teammates, though, where I was like, they would do the same thing. I was like, girl, we're about to go warm up. Put your jersey on. She was like, I'm not going to play. And you were like, wow. It never fathomed in you that you had teammates.

Right? Well, I was that teammate that was like, you never know. Right? You might get in. And she was like, even if we're up by 40, I am not playing. Girl, we've been teammates three years together. How many times have we been? When's the last time you cheated for me?

When's the last time? Girl, I told you. It's crazy. You're like, nah. But my son, like, hearing the conversation and then the G League and all that, like, he went through that last year. And so hearing this conversation, that was me, though, as a mom, like, son, you got to be ready.

Like, when your numbers call, when that moment comes, and he's like, Mom, I'm not going to get in. And I was like, you never know. You never know. Like, be ready. Put your jersey on. Make sure you got all your shit together, right? Can't call my name all month.

But you didn't know them. All you know is like, girl number three with the water. That's true. That's true. I knew her name. You in my seat. What the fuck did she get on her seat? Ah.

Ah. Hey, you in my seat. Whatever, whatever. All right, team? Ah. Ah. Hey, you in my seat. Whatever, whatever. Hey, water, water, water. Somebody, can I get the water? The one that was sitting there and asked your teammate. The one that was doing this. Hey, what's her name?

Hey, you see? Look, I was like, what's her name? I didn't know she was on the team. I never did that. I know. Ah, right. Hey, water, thank you. Thank you.

You didn't look. Them the ones you didn't look at. Right? Oh. I was like this. You know how like sometimes when one, two, three, that, and it sounded a little bit louder? Yeah. Those are the people in the back.

Yeah, them the ones. Y'all ain't saying it. This is our moment. Come on. You didn't miss three shots in a row, and you didn't got backdoor. You're not thinking about team on three. Not at all.

You might not even be in the huddle. You, man, listen. Damn. Always look for the red light. You know, when y'all even be in the huddle. You, man, listen. See him. Always look for the red light. I'm going to stand by you, Cheryl, just being the chef. That's a joke. That didn't happen to me. They like that, though.

When y'all was, like, spraying the shampoo, the ones that actually got wet, like, they didn't care about the hair. They didn't put the shower cap on. Nah, they didn't put the goggles on, none of that. They wanted the experience. They're like, I want it all. I want it all.

Yeah, they got the thigh infection from the champagne. Yeah, them. They wanted to feel that experience. Yeah, them. Those are the ones. I just was taking it in the conversation. Oh, shit. But my first D&P, it was real late.

It was like real, real, real late. In your career? Were you surprised? Because I played the game before. Right. Because I played the game before. And you played a lot. Yeah, the game before, I actually showed up and played a lot. And then next game, I was sitting there waiting on my name to be called.

It was like... You can tell somebody who ain't used to the D&P, because they start, yeah, they start... Every name, every time he open his mouth... And how were you after the game? Like, when the game was over? Oh, I had to go have a conversation. Yeah? Yeah.

That's called privilege right there. Wait, wait, and you were still a rookie? No, I wasn't. Oh, okay, okay. I was like, you were a rookie? You were in that conversation? You have a good relationship with the gentleman who gave you that DNP? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. He just had to have a conversation. Yeah, this is going to be the norm.

Let me know now because I know how to prepare because I ain't never not played, dog. Every time I laced them up, I could go. So, you let me know today if this is going to continue so I can know how to move about mine. He was like, yeah, my bad. It was one of them. It was one of them, like, my bad. The game got

my mind too. So, let's talk about another good story from the Lakers. No, Bronny gonna be alright, though. We talked Bronny, but Lakers undrafted rookie Quincy Oliveri has quickly emerged as a fan favorite and one of the best stories so far this season.

So, started out media day getting clowned when he got spotted in the background of a Bronny interview taking this flick with LeBron with people asking, who the fuck is number 41? But Oliveri made the most of his opportunity because it was a shadow specter. That's it. That's what happens to second rounders. Who the fuck it was a shadow spectrum. That's it. That's what happens to second rounders. Who the fuck is that? Of course.

That's our treatment. So undrafted player, spent five years in college, but made the most of his opportunity, leading the Lakers in their first win of the preseason with a fourth quarter explosion on the Bucs and dropping 22 points against the Warriors on Friday. Oliveri even got some love from his favorite player after the game and reflected on the moment.

It's crazy because I've liked him since I was in sixth grade. I don't even know what to say, man, because that's my favorite player ever. And the first thing he told me was, I'm a big fan of your game. And truth be told, I'm a big fan of your game and like truth be told i'm a big fan of him you know like i i had his jersey he signed it twice uh i used to sleep under that jersey and like i just wanted to be like i'm so bad and so just to be able to meet him he and be able to have some respect for me and then us to talk in the back he gave me a pair of his shoes and signed them like that

meant the world to me man like my dad knows my mom knows like it just means a lot and like i i don't know it just means a lot damn girl you can't take nothing serious no i'm taking no no i get it trust me i was the second round all these jerseys you got signed in here. I was the second. No, Kenyon, Kenyon over there making faces. Listen, these two don't understand. That is a championship. Listen, yo.

All the words cool. Yes. Fan. Grew up watching. Thumbs up, young man. You made it to the... Yeah, why the fuck you crying? You ain't win that lose nothing no Because your chances of him making it to the NBA was zero. Yes, right? Yes. So yes. Yes

I'm for it. Yeah. So what? I played good in front of Steph. You signed my jersey twice. So my favorite player basically acknowledged me and gave me? Yes. Yeah. He said he slept in that mother-in-law's jersey. Yeah. He signed it twice.

Yes. Not one time. He signed the shit in the front and the back. Front and the back, KD. And the jay suits. We are in professional sports here. Oh, no. You is. You is the number one pick. Yeah, no, you is. You is.

You is the number one pick. Yeah, but that moment, though. He played an NBA game. No. Granted, it was preseason. Yeah, so. But it counts. For him.

No. He scored 22 in an NBA game. But that's what I'm saying. For him, this is the biggest moment because he didn't think this moment was happening. He didn't even draft it. I understand. He was a 50-year senior. Yeah.

You can't let that man have that moment. I did. I am. But the emotion, he needed to... Cool. He was feeling the thing. Yes. Because you know why, Kenyon, too? Yeah. I'm with it. I cried on the show. I'm emotional. But you know what? But you know why? Don't have a weird day. Because... So I get

the emotional part of it, yes. I have no problem with tears. The emotional part is I have no problem with tears. The emotional part is I'm pretty sure this is what got him on the team. And the emotions is this performance is

I get to sign a contract and play in the NBA. So this is his NBA. There's a lot of emotions. There's no difference. Like when motherfuckers cry at the draft. I get it. This is his draft. So this is his NBA. There's a lot of opportunities. It's no different than when motherfuckers cry at the draft. I get it. This is his draft.

So if he would have cried in that moment, the fact that he played well, he never thought this was going to be and all that, yes, absolutely. Not the fact that the man signed the jersey. That's all I'm saying. Two times. If he would have been more, listen,

be emotional about your performance is what I'm saying. But it's two times. If he would have been more, listen, be emotional about your performance is what I'm saying. But he probably was that too. But it's just all, but I'm just saying. I would prefer those words to come out your mouth and you to cry.

If he said it in the statement, I'm sure at some point. Please let me, give me that. Give me that. But for him, I agree with y'all. Yes.

But let it be for your I never thought I was gonna be here. It was probably you that thought he knew. I'm saying yes. They probably told him we're gonna sign you. That's all I'm saying. Tell me that. I got a Lakers jersey on and I'm getting love from Steph Curry.

Tell me. We're just a brief clip. Yeah, I'm not taking this. I said have no problem with him crying. Don't get me wrong. But let your individual, while you're there, outshadow the fact that this man signed your jersey twice. Mm-mm. Because if I don't make this team, if he don't make this team.

This is your moment, though. If he don't make this team, what you said your moment, though. If he don't make this team, what is the... What is he going to remember? His moment. When he's telling his grandkids he got a jersey. He has a number 41. He has his own jersey

with Lakers on it. Yeah, he... Does he get to keep that? I don't know if he gets to keep that. Yeah, well, why not? I don't know. He doesn't believe he's going to be a jersey.

No, you don't get to keep that. He'll keep it. No, because by the time he gets cut, he ain't in the locker room no more. Gil, are you trying to tell me that after that last game, I'm putting it in my luggage? I'll see y'all later. you don't get to keep that. I don't get to keep it. No, because by the time he gets cut, he ain't in the locker room no more. Who else? Are you trying to tell me that after that last game, I'm putting it in my luggage? I'll see y'all later. I better come get it for me.

You don't know. And you, especially you. I know. Somebody like you, especially you. You going to tuck it. I'm stealing everything. I'm stealing my jersey. I'm stealing Braun's jersey.

Braun, Braun, Braun, his shoes. Davis, Reeves. Yeah, I'm taking everything. Fuck. You crazy? I'm with. Listen. Yes. I'm taking everybody. You crazy? Listen, yes. Yes.

As a... Yes. Let the moment... That's all I'm saying. Let the moment of you being there be it for you, right? I get it. It could have been all of that in a box together, the emotion of being there and finally getting the seat. I get it, yes.

Where did he... But we playing professional sports and... seat. I get it, yes. Where did he go? But we playing professional sports. Rice? I think it was like at Rice. Rice University? And then at Xavier. So he started at Rice before he finished at Xavier. Okay. But that's why the... Hold on. That's why the fuck he saw his shit.

He went to Xavier. One year. That's why the fuck he saw his shit. He went to one year. That's why he crying. He went one year. I don't give a fuck. He went to Xavier. Fuck him.

Oh, that's your rival? Fuck him. He said he wanted to go to Cincinnati. Fuck him. No, he went to Rice for four years. I don't give a fuck. He went to Xavier. He put that Xavier uniform on. He played in the Crosstown shootout.

Fuck him. Huh? Did he run from Xavier to Rice? Hey, listen, man. He said he went to Xavier so he could be close to Cincinnati. Yeah, it's 15 minutes away. It's 15 minutes away. That's all Rob. It's a cross-town shootout.

Oh, my God. And see, I knew it. That's why he on that. Why he on that car? He went to Xavier. I knew it. I knew it. Same private school kid.

Private school shit on the other side of the city. That's why. So the Lakers rewarded Oliveri with a two-way contract, which means he will likely spend some time on the Lakers squad this season, a lot of time in the G League. So we have the most surprising poll result of all time. We've been doing this show since last February. Crying after meeting Steph Curry is a good moment or weak shit?

71% said a good moment. Of course it is. But 29% are in shit. I'm not saying it's not a good moment. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying it's not a good moment. But I'm talking to the chat with the 29% that said that's weak shit. Damn, chat.

I know, I know what you're saying. So you should have referenced, like... So is it weak when someone gets drafted and they start crying? The guy cried. Damn. Yeah. Well, but...

Hold on. Oh, my God. Yeah, but you had to in that moment, though. You had to. It was worth it. But this is... We are contacting Underdog. In that moment. Underdog says it's worth it. After had to. It was worth it. But this is... We are contacting Underdog.

In that moment. Underdog says it's worth it. After official review, it was worth it. But this is... No official review whatsoever. It's real time.

This is his draft moment. This is the... But I'm thinking leading up to what we saw... And the last game. It was a good one, too. It wasn't no question about it. All of those questions

they asking about. Yeah, I got you. It was the emphasis. Being on the Lakers. Yeah was a good one, too. It wasn't no question about it. All of those questions they asking about. Yeah, I got you. It was the emphasis. Being on the Lakers. Yeah, hard ER. All of that combined. Hard ER. Like, I know, like...

I love... Can I get a napkin, please? The only problem I hate with the... I hope he gets to the NBA and get to go in the game at some point in time. You know, right now he's going to start in the G League. And heaven forbid it's not against the Warriors. Yeah. Because he's going to have to guard that light skin.

He's going to have to guard that light skin. But I'm – Lord, either way you tell your kids. I gave Steph 42. By the time you get in. But if he get called up, somebody's not playing, so it might. Yeah. So we have a mostly fans question on the subject from FunGuyRip.

To all the crew, how would you guys react if a player like Quincy Oliveri spoke his truth in admiration for you like that on national TV, knowing he admired you as a kid and broke down on national TV like that? How would you guys approach it? I think we, it's I think we got the answer. I'm crying. No, no. Easy, dog.

You can't do all that, bro. I appreciate it, dog, but you can't be crying, man. And I might say that. I know, but why? More than likely, I will say that. Appreciate the love, dog, but you can't be crying on TV. Why? Say them tears for another day. You can't be crying on TV. What? Why? Say them tears for another day.

You can't be crying on TV, bro. I wish I got to cry up there. I'm like, why can't he cry? He can. You just said he can't cry on TV. But I'm going to tell him. I know you're going to tell him. I put me in there.

He said if it was the plan, I was in that situation. And I met him. And I'm going to tell him, hey, bro, I appreciate the love, dog. You can't be crying on TV, dog. Like, I'm jealous. That's what I'm, dog. You can't be crying on TV, dog. Like, I'm jealous. That's what I'm saying. But why can't he cry on TV? Not for meeting me.

Because I don't think I'm that important. But he does. That's great. I love it. So that moment ain't about you. It's about him. And I'm going to tell him. Don't let him cry.

I appreciate it, dog. Don't be crying, bro. Tough enough. I ain't even know second rounders get to talk at the podium, to be honest. I already know. I seen him and Bronny like, damn, when they started letting the podium put about them second rounders. You know they're going to let Bronny talk. I know, of course, him.

But like, 22, you talking to me to my locker. And they do no goddamn interview. He's talking about, cut out of there, crying. We're going to keep this thing moving. I'm just a firm believer in like crying for no reason. But he had a reason. He had a reason.

I missed that. I had a good game. He said good game. I'm a big fan. Like me? Yes. You watch me? I'm winning. No, he lying. I know damn well you didn't watch me in the last five years. But you told me that. I watched you tonight. You didn't watch me? No any lying. I know damn well you didn't watch me in the last five years. But you told me that. I know damn well

you didn't watch me in college. I'll watch you tonight. You know what I mean? You watched me tonight. I did good. I appreciate it all. Yes. I would have gave him a nigga a hug too. And you would have gave him $100. Did you get that? Nope.

I ain't even paying attention. I ain't going to be the only one giving the money away. I know one thing. Yeah. I know the two pictures that's going to be in my wall. I'm snitching over here. Me too. My picture with LeBron James and my picture with Steph Curry is going to be blown up. Forever.

Yes. Forever. Because it's not guaranteed. Because right now, still, it's not guaranteed that he's going to play in the NBA. I'm with you. Agreed. now, still, it's not guaranteed that he's going to play in the NBA. I'm with you. Agreed. So, still, this is going to... Moving forward, right now, at this moment, this is the biggest moment of his life.

Yes. Signing a contract, cool. I mean, what is that, $40,000? Okay. Yes. That's a lot of money, Gil. That jersey's more... All of those things, yes.

I'm with you. No doubt. I'm with you. The jersey... That jersey's more sentimental than that contract. Yeah, that sign. No, for him. For monetary values, it That jersey's more sentimental than that contract. Yeah, that sign... No, no, for him. For monetary value,

it's probably worth more than... I know. But that jersey is... It's worth more than that contract to him. I am. Okay, let him have his moment. So y'all...

Damn everything... Yes. Then we're doing it. So, okay, on a two-way contract, right? I know how it works when you sign it as, like, on a two-way contract, right, I know how it works when you sign it as, like, Bronny and then going down.

He has the NBA contract, and then it goes down. Well, he has just a standard contract. Just a standard. What happens with a two-way? When you come up, are you on, like, a... You can only play a certain amount of games, I believe, in the league. And the rest got to be in the G League. No, but you get the G League contract, right? But when you come up, do you get like a bump up?

So they're paid one salary for their time in both leagues. I think that's the way to... Oh, I see. Yeah, you're not... No, but the two-way, is that the G League salary or the NBA salary? G League salary. Yeah, that's a big difference. But the two-way salary is the G League. The G League salary. Yeah, that's a big difference. But the two-way salary is the G League.

The G League salary. Is it not more? It's equal to 50% of the minimum salary. Of what minimum? NBA? The NBA minimum. So, yeah, it's more. So it's more. Yeah, so it's more.

And you can play a maximum of 50 NBA games. It's more. Yeah. But you're playing those 50 games on a... What are you, like maximum of 50 NBA games. There's more. Yeah. But you're playing those 50 games on a... What are you, like, 500? That's messed up, man. Yeah. The game is a Grammy.

500 even if it never comes up? Mm-hmm. Oh. That's a little Grammy. Yeah. You take that. Versus getting drafted as a... Second-round pick?

No, getting drafted as a G League player. Okay. Man, that's crazy. It's a big difference. Yeah, it's a big difference. And a G League salary in a two-way? Man, that's crazy. It's a big difference. Yeah, it's a big difference. And a G League salary in a two-way? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we're going to keep this thing moving. Before we go, just some quick news and report. We were talking about the 2021 NBA draft class. You mentioned Jalen Suggs. So Sean's reporting Jalen Suggs just signed a five-year, $150 million deal with the Magic. The fan, man. Just let it be known.

It's on the makeup stage. It's less than a three-year, $106 million deal. That Jalen Green sign, more bread, but more years as well. Just pointing it out. I missed it. Sorry. I'm trying to get my face. No, $150? We was talking about a guy in that draft. Five years, $150. Five for $150. But if 150. So that's for 30 bucks? Five for 150. But if you want to get your bread right,

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Head over to the Underdog app, use promo code GILL to get $1,000 in bonus cash and a new promo every day this month. So we're going to shift it to a player who's in the league whose resume and legacy pretty much cemented. But the Suns were expected to be a contender last season after landing Bradley Beal to form a big three along with KD and Devin Booker. But they battled injuries all season, finishing sixth in the West with their big three only playing 41 regular season games together

before getting swept by Ant-Man and the Wolves in the first round. During a recent appearance on Up and Adams, KD was asked which NFL team he would compare the Suns squad to and said this. I would say the Chiefs because we bring that championship mentality every day, baby. Let's go. I mean, some might say the Suns have never won it. They've been to the big game. They haven't won. But look, I love the confidence.

I was going to say the Bills. I see. Nah. Why? Because they're known for getting there and just then losing. I don't want to be one of those guys, so I'd rather go with the Champs and just take on that mentality. It was talking mentality, but for context sake,

obviously, Ken, you know you're a big NFL fan. Chiefs have won four Super Bowls in their franchise history, plus three AFL chips pre-merger, including three since the 2019 season. And back-to-back. The Suns have made three finals appearances in their franchise history, most recently 2021. Never won a chip,

but KD, two-time champ, two-time finals MVP. Do you agree with KD comparing the Suns to the Chiefs? So, I think the key word in that phrase that he used was mentality. He made sure to put that word in there. Cool. Yeah. was mentality. He made sure to put that word in there.

Cool. Yeah. We all did. Mentality, yeah. Championship mentality, absolutely. That is. We're trying to get the play off. You were the Bills? We was play off mentality.

Wow. Yeah. See, people play with these, see, interviews and words, and they don't really listen to exactly what he said. He said championship mentality. So, cool, yes. Kay Adams compared them more to the Bills. Like, he was going to say, oh, you know, I think we like the Bills.

Not even that. The Bills went to four straight loss, so they only made it to one. So, they're not making it. They're losing. That's a C. They made it to one. Thank you. they only made it to one, so they're not making it, they're losing. They made it to one. So I would say that's more the lines of... The Atlanta Falcons.

Every now and again, Falcons went when Jamal Anderson came up short, I believe, in that one. Right? Then they made it again a few years ago, blew a 25-point lead. Oh, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm just saying. Don't do that. Don't do that. Okay.

When he says Chiefs, he didn't say which Chiefs. Right? He can say the first year that they were going to win a championship. We got that mentality. You know what Chiefs he said. No. No. He said Chiefs. Thats, right? He can say the first year that they were going to win a championship. We got that mentality. You know what Chiefs he's talking about. No, no. He said Chiefs. That's, right, the Chiefs itself. So, maybe it's that first year that the Chiefs decided, like,

this is the year we're going to win it, so we're all locked in. That might be what he's talking about. Because, I mean, when they were, when they played together, they weren't bad. What was that stat Bradley Bill put on? Bradley, how much, together, they weren't bad. Kidding. What was that stat Bradley Beal put on? Hmm?

Bradley, how much, what did they win last year? They were 26 and 15, I believe, when their whole crew played together. That's still not good.

He said if he won, if he played half the games that he set, they would have won, like, what, 68, 69 games? No, I wouldn't have got that much,

but they would have, but my, they were only eight games away from the top spot in the West. No, how wouldn't have got that much, but they would have... But my... They were only eight games away from the top spot in the West. No, how many games did he win? What? How many games did he win? Who? Overall, how many games did he win?

Oh, there were 49 and 33. 49. Now, how many games did Bradley Bill miss? So there were 26 and 15 with that whole crew together. Let me see what Bill... How many games did Bradley Bill play last year? Coming with you right now, Ken. No, he said if he played half of those games.

Yeah, so Bill played 53 games. So missed 29. So if he played 15 more games, he's saying we could have been number one. Which, mathematically, he's right. And I don't like... Mathematically, he's right. But the games they played together, there was no real... Let me be quiet, because 26 to 15 with that talent is still not...

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, even if... Yeah. Yeah. He's in eight games, so like I said, you give him the eight games out of the 15, yeah. Eight and seven, yeah. I would have put them... Where they had 40... Somewhere around the fourth spot. Based on their 26 and 15 when they all played together,

if they would have got those more games. But just looking at this Sun squad, you appreciate the championship mentality. Obviously, that is different than saying, we're going to be like the Chiefs and we're going to win a chip. But... Who's Patrick Mahomes? Chiefs Chiefs back listen

who's Patrick Mahomes on that team yeah on the Suns just ask him I hear somebody say KD I don't know

I'm asking and to quote Bradley Billy said I missed 30 games we won 49 games so I played half of them games. We are the number one seed in the West. If he plays half of them.

I'm sure he hoped to play those. Now the problem is if they come out and they're the number one seed, no one's going to be surprised. Yeah. Right? I mean, they're just one of those teams that was hurt that we get to laugh at and say, oh, you didn't do nothing.

Just like with the Brooklyn Nets. Like, you know, we get to laugh at you and say y'all failed. Knowing that y'all failed because y'all wasn't healthy. Not y'all failed because y'all were together and everybody was healthy and y'all just sucked. You failed because you just wasn't healthy. But when you guys were healthy, y'all dominated. Only played 862 minutes together in the regular season, 125 minutes together in the playoffs.

But like we mentioned, did proceed to get swept by Amman and that Wolves crew. But we asked the chatter, the Suns and NBA version of the Kansas City Chiefs, just to ask. 93% said no. Damn. Yeah, because the Chiefs, yeah, they not only have championship mentality,

they go out and win championships. But that first year, the first year they won it, were they supposed to win it? Probably not. Tom Brady was still in the NFL, so... Yeah, I think Patrick Mahomes surprised a lot of people. Oh NFL, so... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I think Patrick Mahomes surprised a lot of people. Oh, he did? Yeah.

I think. Mm-hmm. I don't know about football like that. You surprised picking the draft. Yeah. So we all know how good the Suns can be. They're gonna have that big three crew looking like healthy just to start this season, or healthy enough. Are people sleeping on the Suns this year because of the disappointment from last season?

I think so. No one's sleeping on them because everybody knows how dangerous they are if they are healthy. But, you know, most people are like, well, it don't matter. They're never going to be healthy, right? Somebody's going to get hurt, and then it's the same old blah, blah, blah. Right? So I think that's what's going to happen.

And if we get to January, February, and they've done played 90% of their games, then you're going to see all the bandwagons, guys jumping on them, talking about Suns. I knew it. Yep. You know, Suns is, talking about Suns. I knew it. Yep. You know, Suns, Suns are favorite. Suns are favorite.

KD MVP, they're going to pull that out the hat. So that's what we're expecting from them. Which for them, it's a win-win situation. You know, if no one really has them then what, top four, top five? Because of the history. Like you just said, just people expecting something to go wrong. Because it's happened. You say you won't have them top four or top five, but you're not surprised.

But if they're number one. Not at all. If they're number one, they're going to be like, oh, five, but you're not surprised. But if they get number one. Not at all. I'm just saying, if they get number one, they're going to be like, oh, shit, they got the big three. Yeah, yeah. So now, anything less than that for them is looked at as, yeah, right? If they don't finish in the top three, we're like, yeah.

Same old, same old, same old stuff. Break it up. Yeah. So you're going to trade. KD asking for a trade. You know, you already know the buttons, you're going to trade. KD asking for a trade. You know, you already know the buttons. KD asking for a trade. Like he said, it's the KD asking for a trade button.

That's what it is. He know it. It's unfortunate that that's the stigma around there, but it's what it is as a Blake. But they can. They can come out and be. They're healthy, though. They're a pretty good team.

I got to see what the other, as the other people, I got to see what the others look like. The others. I just got to see what the rest of the squad look like. Yeah. How they gelling and, yeah. And who going to take that? Well, never mind.

Never mind. It was about to be a dump state. Sorry, no dump state, Mr. Gilson. Yeah, it was, yeah. It's Bradley Beal. Really take a back seat and be a distributor and a facilitator. And when those two guys are not on the floor during the second quarter, that's his time.

You take him out first. Because it's – are they going to – well, they got to start the Jones kid at the point, right? That's all I was going to ask you. Speaking of being a facilitator, that was kind of the issue last season with the crew of the point guard by committee. Didn't necessarily – I'm going to say it did not work

because they didn't spend enough time on the court together. That could have been, like Bradley Bill said, number one team in the West if they're healthy, but they weren't. But yeah, they added a true point guard this offseason by signing Tyus Jones to a one-year deal. Jones has led the league in assist-to-turnover ratio for six straight seasons,

set an NBA single-season record with a 7.35 assist-per-turnover ratio. It's not going to happen this year, so... You're not going to have a 7 assist this assist per turnover ratio. But it's not going to happen this year, so you're not going to have a seven assist this year. I mean, if they let him do his thing, but for the most part, he's there to play defense, hit open, wide open shot. How are you going to have a seven assist?

I'm just saying if they let him do the pick, roll, and pass, and then y'all just catch and shoot, because it's not like y'all cannot do that. Y'all can catch and shoot because y'all are all great three-point shooters. That's what it might be, but he won't have seven assists. So I could be Steve Nash out here if he won't get to y'all. Yeah, I don't think he'll have seven assists because them dudes are too dynamic in a lot of situations because the plays that they run, yeah, it's going to be tough

for him to have a seven assists in that environment. But, yeah, because do you take the ball out of one of them guys' hands and put it in his hands? So, yeah, I'm... Going to be Derek Fisher. And what does the bench look like? Grayson Allen's still going to shoot a high clip. We know that.

Bobo got... I mean,'s still going to shoot a high clip. We know that. Bobo got... They're going to be all right. I'm starting him. I would. I'm starting him. Bobo. I'm starting him. Look at the roster.

I'm going all in with Bobo. I'm starting him. Put him at... Because if you don't try to... Put him at four, three, you already... It's cool. You... Nerkich. I'm going tall. three, you hard. It's cool. You, uh, Nurkic? I'm going tall.

Really, really tall. I'm going with Nurk, Bo Bo, KD. Yeah. Booker and build. What you going to do? Yeah. Some would say that's a 2K line of good, but you think that's a recipe for success with this squad.

Because you've been a big Bo Bo fan. Stretch the floor, man. Stretch the floor. That's a the floor, man. You stretch the floor, pick and roll. He brings an element of athleticism that you, so. You're not worrying about somebody driving and beating you off the dribble. Like, that's not happening. And the beauty about this NBA, you can play zone. Yep. This NBA.

You can play. You got M This NBA. You can play. You got them three dudes on the back line. Mm-hmm. Man, you're shooting all jump shots. All jumpers. That's a big line. And then your front line is big. You're shooting jumpers no matter what.

That's a big line. Really. Right? Yeah. And the problem is, at some point during the season, I'm going to try it. You know, like when Steve Kerr tried

that death squad when he went small and fast and it worked. I'm going to try the big lineup. Because at some point, if you have guards that are the rest of the guards in the league, you're going to have to guard Bill or Booker, and they're going to post you up.

Same thing about Philly. I'm playing drum and and and beat together at times. Paul George, Kelly Oubre, Paul... Man, listen, you be so... Listen. You remember Boston was... Yeah, man. People don't know at the beginning of the season,

Boston was playing really big. Yeah, you can, man. They're playing really big. They put Al Horford and Porzingis in with Jalen. Boom. Yes.

With Derrick White. Yeah, it was Derrick White and Jalen at the two. Tatum at the three. Al Horford and Porzingis. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's... But yeah,

I would give Bo Ball a real chance to go out and prove and show people what he can do if I'm them. But I want to see what the rest of their squad look like. News got to be on the floor. That's the most important thing at the end of the day. If that crew can get 60, 65 games together, put them in a much different position in this Western Conference,

now they're not on the road to start the playoffs. You can't get swept, though. That's the other side of it. Fuck. You can't get swept. I don't care what you got to do to get a win. You can't get swept. Can you be so mad?

Be gentleman about it. Yeah, you can't. Get a win. What?'t get swept. Can you be so mad? Be gentleman about it. Yeah, you can't. Get a win. Yeah, you got, yeah. Can't let them people bring them brewing out on you. What you got to say? No, I mean the Lakers didn't ever happen. Lakers didn't get swept.

They just lost in the minimum amount of games allowed. Huh? This year? This year? Where's our common partners? Last year. This year we had some past seasons. This year the most thrilling gentlemen sweep

in NBA history. The season before that? Just minimum games. Oh, y'all don't wanna talk about that. Just minimum games. Different regimes. I just want y'all to acknowledge the fact that y'all, I don't want y'all to act like it never happened.

In recent history. Different regime. Very recent history. So we can't count it. Hey, with AI, shit, AI. Different regime. Very recent history. So we can't count it. With AI? Shit, AI. Not AI. You insane, huh?

With AI, I don't know. You can switch whatever you want. We gotta win. I watch the series. We gotta win. Uh-huh. All right, well,

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We had the saxophone player last week to kick it off. Dang. She did her thing. I know. I told her to bring it this week. I saw it, but yeah. So. Yeah, I was cutting up.

Our first question from Underdog user LookIsMe59. Which team that didn't make the playoffs is going to make the playoffs this year so for reference the teams that didn't make the playoffs in the easter conference last year the bulls hawks nets raptors hornets wizards and pistons and in the western conference the kings warriors rockets jazz grizzlies spurs and blazers so which team that didn't make the playoffs this past season is going to make the playoffs this year? It's going to be somebody from the West. I'm going to go with the Rockets.

Sure, you're taking the Rockets 41-41 last year, but young crew, seems like a good regular season team to make some noise. Yeah. I'm going to roll with hometown team. Came on strong, who was in the last season. I like the Rockets. John Lawrence noise. Yeah. I'm going to roll with hometown team. Came on strong. We're going to end the last season. I like the Rockets. John Lawrence to the town.

I do Spurs maybe. It's a good one too. Spurs could. Spurs could. I'll say Spurs. Chicago. Can you go with the Chicago Bulls? The resurgence of Lonzo Ball, Zach Levine back healthy.

We don't know how much longer he's going to be out there with the... But whatever moves the Bulls make, if they do move Zach Levine, it'll be something that's going to continue to help them. I don't think they'll... They're not going to move backwards with it. And it is the East. So, yeah, I think the Bulls. They've been right there the last couple years, so.

Memphis. West. No, that's what I said. Memphis is like, ah. Got to see what else they're going to look like, what their bench look like as well. We talked about this offseason, but it's going to be some hurt feelings in the Western Conference this year

because somebody who was expected to make it. Who's that? And it may be that somebody giving up their pick to the OKC Thunder, but we will see what's going down. Gil, you said the Spurs. Cheryl, you said the Rockets. Kenya, you said the Bulls. So our next question from underdog user Zoe Wick.

Who do you think wins Rookie of the Year? Who is going to win Rookie of the Year this season? Zach Eadie. I don't even know who rookies are, so. I'm going Zach Eadie. They did not do enough to make a lasting impression on you. Because you get Jaron Jackson get to play his natural position at the four.

He's going to have the wins if they're, you know, playing well. He's going to average 15 and 11. I don't know. You think... I mean, because he has a job back there, so... Who in the NBA is keeping 12 in front of him?

Not a soul. It's at the rim, lobs. With him. He make free throws. The chat's saying, Edie over Dalton Connect, the Westside Connect game. Shout out M-Grad. He's not going to get

that many opportunities to do that. He might be the new lemon daddy. He probably will. You know, knowing LeBron, he got to play.

But still got, still got, you got to, this Austin Reeves ain't giving it up that easy. It might be the number one pick.

Okay. He came off the bench every game, right, which was weird, you know, as the number one pick. But he do have Trey Young over there. Which? Which, you know, Trey plays fast. You know, Trey passes the ball. So, because Trey's the focal point on stopping him,

he's going to get a lot of open, easy stuff. Other than that, there's no clear number one pick. The kid from the Blazers? Big kid? Oh, uh, Klingon from UConn? I mean, they're going to, they'll probably trade big fella. They still got DeAndre Ayton up there, right? He's done.

He's done, but he's still there. He's going to get rid of him. Other than that, there's really no... Yeah, I'm going to go Zach Eaddy. There's not like a clear cut. I'm going to go Zach Eaddy. The number one pick, Zach Eaddy, is probably the two that has the potential.

Number one or number nine. We'll see. Zach Eady very impressive this preseason. Reese Lashaw doing good as well. Anybody who averages about 15. Anybody who averages about 15, 13 to 15 from this class. Yeah, and they got to be able to play enough to be able to do that. Somebody I saw

on John, they were saying the Reese Shepard kid. Nah. I didn't think that no way. I don't think it's enough minutes for him. It's not enough minutes. No matter how much talent he is,

that was the wrong team for him to get drafted. Not enough shots and not enough minutes. Yeah. But if he comes out, I mean, because... He's not. He's not. I've heard Steph comparisons. I've heard other things.

I don't care. I'm just telling you, I'm not. Me neither, K. But'm just letting you know. He has six people at that size and bigger that's doing the same thing. And on that team, he going... He is... If he's on the floor with Jalen, Sangoon, Dylan Brooks, Jabari Smith. Yeah.

He's not getting no looks. Team's too young. You know, there's just certain teams you get drafted to that it's a bad fit for you personally. Yeah, I think that's one of them. Being the number one, two, three, four pick is cool. It just has to be the best fit. The best fit is better. And that draft, for him to go there,

just wasn't a good look for, you know. Shit, I guess at anybody in that draft, you didn't want to be the four, the five, the two. Shit, the point. I mean, you don't want to be you know even though they're not

all superstars yet but they're young enough to sit in front of you for a while yeah I mean that's real talk well

NBA season will be here tomorrow that is our show for today Cheryl we appreciate you well I gotta give out my money

who you giving your money to Gil we gotta give out a lot of Who you giving your money to, Gil? We gotta give out a lot of money. I thought we were doing end of the month, we just gonna give it all in one? No, no, no, I'm gonna give mine at the end of the- I thought it was end of the show. I'm gonna give mine at the end of the show

so I can give mine. So we still gonna give all yours away today? Yeah, I got 1,400. So 1,500, so I'm just add 100. So you're gonna give it all away today? Yeah. So just three people, right? No, 200. Huh, okay, so give it all away today? Yeah. So just three people? No, 200.

Okay, so I see, okay, Brill Mac. How you spelling you? How you picking who you're giving your money to? You're just picking somebody. Yeah, so Brill Mac, B-R-I-L-L Mac. Okay, let me pick one for you. You can pick one for me. Okay.

King Josiah. Air Swoops 22. Air Swoops 22 Air Swoops 22 they know how to do it right um okay let me I gotta make sure I pick someone

that don't be coming for me every time I'm on the show no Carol good luck there's this thing about the chat Cheryl the chat will switch up let's go with it will switch up

when money's on the line I like snipe. Cody, F-O, 20. Yeah, C-O-D-Y, F-O, the number 20. Okay, so for me, that's 500. Cody, F-O, 20. That's 500 each. So I only owe 1,400.

So I got one free. Air Soups 22400. So I got one free. AirSoup's $2,200 was me. I got one free. Oh, so you already put one. If you would like to use that... Not that I don't want to have to count and break it up and how much is it. You can use that N-word right now for sure.

You can save it for later today. For cash consideration. All right, we will stash that N-word. I'll give you an N-word today for consideration. Okay. Two N-words today for consideration tomorrow. Two N-words for Zach Levine. But on that note, been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

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