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Starting point is 00:01:19 What's up with you, Gil? Nothing. You good? Unfortunate state championship game, but we still dropped, what, 44 apiece? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That matters. I thought y'all didn't win? No, we didn't win. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 00:01:30 I thought it said win in 44. And then see you in the body system. No, no, we got there. See you in the body system. We got there. That was the win right there. That was the win for the city right there. We wasn't expecting to make it to no state championship game.

Starting point is 00:01:43 But we didn't make enough, we didn't make it as a one of those games where we didn't make enough plays To win it. We was like right there and like You know on the other side it was you know number zero like it was zero He was a real guy to show respect out of body experience a football player was on fire Oh like we had we had the best player neutralized. He can get nothing off second option player was on fire. Like we had the best player neutralized. He didn't get nothing off. Second option had 20 kept him alive. Yeah, yeah, 20 hitting everything. How much did y'all lose by? Then we ended up losing by like eight, nine.

Starting point is 00:02:14 Okay. Towards the end of the game because it was fouling. But yeah, he kept him. He kept him alive. Football player only had four in the second half, right? But it was that first half where they needed him and he- 44 though, football player only had four in the second half, right? But it was that first half where they needed him. And he. 44 though. Hey. It's hard out here.

Starting point is 00:02:28 We do. We can't do it. I mean, championship man. You got two more years, right? Yeah. Oh,

Starting point is 00:02:32 we got time. We got time. He's too much right now. We got time. He's way too much. He's good. Next year, come back,

Starting point is 00:02:39 boom. He's way too, get him out of there. We already figured out, we know, we already know, like other schools, like,

Starting point is 00:02:43 yeah, bring him here. For what? Man. Why? Why? What you doing know. Like other schools, like, yeah, bring him here. For what? Man. Why? Why? What you doing? What you going to do?

Starting point is 00:02:49 What you going to do for him? You going to make him number one? He's already number one. Man, let him go to the league. Let him go to the league. I'm representing Elijah for all the NIL business, so hit me up on Twitter if you got a bag for us. And he played for Compton Magic.

Starting point is 00:02:59 He already plays for Compton Magic. So there's no point of going to your high school so he can average 12 and y'all get to go in These better divisions. Yeah, no toil because you got a pass ball to some other players nothing. Nah, that's not how we roll ever average The mother parents out of a oh bring your kid over here we can we can win and expose them to like he's number one YouTube there's YouTube and there's Instagram now. We don't need to go to your school for this elaborate. Footage.

Starting point is 00:03:30 This elaborate schedule that they be tricking. This is a new generation, man. We're not doing that. They can be in D1A or 5AA average 45. YouTube going to see it. Yep. For sure. This is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Starting point is 00:03:47 And as always, we have the legend Gilbert Aredin is here with us today. We got Brandon Jennings back on the couch. Brandon tough crowd as always. When did this come out? Huh? No, these came out like three, four years ago. Oh, okay, okay, okay. All right, it's vintage, okay.

Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah. I believe it. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Four years ago. Okay Making this jacket just I'm gonna be the only one wearing it at and uh, you know in Arizona So are you making a jacket, but we can't who brought a March Madness for the March Madness? Who brags about that? I'm the only one with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, y'all know. Hey, because it's going to be hard. Don't be asking me. Don't be asking me. We're going to get you. Let's jump on. Let's jump on.

Starting point is 00:04:32 Let's jump on. We got Rashad McCants back here with us. You know what we do. Big hats. Big cap. Big cap. Greatness, though. Cap.

Starting point is 00:04:41 Greatness. You know me. We're in the workplace, man. We are in the workplace. Had a good weekend. You sent me, we're in the workplace, man. We are in the workplace. Had a good weekend. You sent me some cap this morning. Nah, you know how it go, man. Arizona not fucking with Carolina.

Starting point is 00:04:53 In what? All facets of life? College basketball? Anything. You see how Arizona got their ass whooped by USC? They got a habit of not showing up when it count. Hey, when Arizona won that championship, who did it go through? It might have defeated the University of North Carolina.

Starting point is 00:05:14 North Carolina, right? No, it wasn't. North Carolina? No, it wasn't. It was North Carolina? Mm-mm. Damn, I thought it was North Carolina when they went to the championship. I thought Antoine Jamison took a L to Arizona in the championship. I thought I thought in San jameson Take a L. There's on a 90 that's 97. I need when there's random

Starting point is 00:05:28 97 with Mike Bibby with all positive But it wasn't We don't know what. In 99, I started watching. Okay, we don't know what color. Eighth grade, that was Michael Jordan in them steel. I wasn't in Carolina then. All right, we're just checking. Yeah, I don't remember that shit. Well, it is March Madness, so here's what we got cracking in the arena today. They got turnt up during the LSU-South Carolina SEC Championship game,

Starting point is 00:05:59 but how important is this rivalry to college hoops? Luka Doncic dropped his NBA record six straight 30-point triple-double. But how much did his team's struggles impact him in the MVP race? And the Lakers have won two straight games. Yes, you heard that right. The Los Angeles Lakers have won two straight games. We call that a winning streak around these parts.

Starting point is 00:06:18 Technically, you're right. We just felt like trolling Sean today. So we're going to see just how good they can become playoff time. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. Use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.

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Starting point is 00:06:56 you a $100 bonus. You can watch the show live with us on YouTube. We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. So the Oscars were last night. Did y'all do anything? Y'all turned up? Y'all hit these streets? No. That was a trick. What?

Starting point is 00:07:11 For the Oscars? Preparing for Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. So special invite parties. No invites. Wait, no, no, no. The Oscars, like movie Oscars? Yeah, the statues. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:23 People watch that? BET Awards around these parts. BET Awards. So people watch the Oscars? People in your neighborhood? Yeah, yeah, for sure. People in this neighborhood, in this particular community. People in the neighborhood, they would tune in. 8 o'clock.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah, that's a big thing. Like movie awards, right? Yeah. Once again, Gills Arena did not win an Oscar. But that's everything, like, we always boycott them. Yeah. Yeah. Oscar's so right.

Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah. But all those parties will be in Hollywood. True. We ain't going no more Hollywood party I didn't know that guy. I've never I've never once watched an Oscars Because most of the movies that win like some of those awards For the most part. They're not usually big Hollywood movies movies. I watch now moves. We are we are entertaining ourselves like doom Do do I have not seen it wait doom Mad rooms mad man do it and max one and that's one whole bunch

Starting point is 00:08:14 Seriously, it's usually like comedies comedies don't win Oscars. It's usually like some dramatic type of movie that wax shit Mm-hmm. I mean, good acting, I guess. Most, I guess, best actors, like, usually sell a role, right? Yeah, but let's show some love to the movies that we watch. So let's pretend like we're doing a movie draft. What movie are you taking with the number one pick? Brandon, we'll start with you. From this year?

Starting point is 00:08:41 Forever. Oh, ever. Ooh, forever. Number one pick? Forever. Number one. I'm going to go The Godfather. Which one?

Starting point is 00:08:50 One and two. No, you only got one pick. They work together, though. They work in conjunction with each other. Two then. Okay, Godfather 2. Okay.

Starting point is 00:08:59 A very, very good film. Me? I love me some Denzel. But I'm going go. I'm a go with. They said, oh, no, I mean, like that. I'll be for you. I'll be getting the times we. I'm sweet! We gotta switch it up! We gotta relax! They already tweeting. They like, he'll love himself! He'll be relaxed!

Starting point is 00:09:33 Take that, take that, take that. Stop, stop, stop. I go... Is it Shawshank Redemption? I'm gonna go with that one. Prison Film at its finest? That wasn't Denzel, but okay. I'm gonna go with that one. I'm gonna go with that one. Okay. Prison film at its finest. That that wasn't Denzel, but okay I know I said, you know, I mean I said I do it was the point is I do love me some Denzel But you're gonna go with Morgan, but I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with you know, I will you know, man on fire

Starting point is 00:09:57 You know, but I'm gonna go with you know, just first one pick so I'm going with number one. Okay I'm gonna go with uh, since you didn't pick Denzel, I'm going to pick Denzel. We didn't land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us. Malcolm X. Yeah, yeah. That brother's starving. Great quality cinema.

Starting point is 00:10:18 So Brandon, you say you don't do the Hollywood party thing anymore, but in your young heyday, you seem like a man who liked to step out and do his thing. Damn.

Starting point is 00:10:24 What's the walk what? He's a legend. What's the wildest thing seen at a party? Huh? What's the wildest thing you've seen at a Hollywood party that you feel comfortable sharing on gills arena presented by underdog fantasy with a double wolf? Who someone someone wrote blood sport my daddy was in blood sport. Hey, it's a classic or next Nothing really nothing. Okay, it's a classic. You are next. Nothing, really. Nothing. Okay. Good job. A lot of women. Cap!

Starting point is 00:10:49 A lot of women. Cap. What? Hollywood parties that I've seen that was wild? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, shit. I mean, it's a lot of women. So you didn't see nothing crazy? I mean, I was going crazy, but...

Starting point is 00:11:07 I'm just saying, did you see yourself going crazy? What did you do at the Hollywood party? Well, I mean, not in the Hollywood Hills or just like rapper parties. I don't know. I mean, I was just having fun. I'm doing what I got to do. I'm doing what I got to do. I'm doing what I'm supposed to go in there and do.

Starting point is 00:11:26 Brandon Jennings, I'm walking out as Brandon Jennings. Working out with a whole bunch of them, okay. Doing appropriate things for the function. Rashad, what's the wildest thing that you've seen at a Hollywood party? It doesn't have to be Hollywood, just... Well, I threw my first Hollywood party. You know, it was a BET award party okay right in the hills it was Marilyn Monroe mansion what did you shoot the porn at now through this big

Starting point is 00:11:57 elaborate party thought all these people was gonna show up had this whole list work was there everybody supposed to be. And guess what party they went to? Brother Love Party. Oh, they went to... You and Diddy threw a party at the same time? At the same goddamn time, didn't even know it. I ain't got that kind of party, so everybody went there and didn't go to mine. I just had a bunch of cigar rollers and models and shit walking around. So you had the girls?

Starting point is 00:12:27 I had the girls. That's all you needed. That's all you had to say. But I had the girls set up for all the Hoopers. So all the Hoopers went to the Dini Party. Say no more. Yeah, I was like, y'all supposed to come here for the work. Say less.

Starting point is 00:12:42 So you had all the women and all the dudes went to the dude parties. I was like, yeah. Anyway. We get it. All the hoopers went. I'm just saying. It was a weird time.

Starting point is 00:12:59 It looked normal. But now we know today. I had no idea. All them hoopers we know today. he had no idea all them hoopers. We know today which I was on Then where y'all was going? Yeah when y'all came out here. Mm-hmm Brother love was singing to y'all. Got it gentlemen. Uh, this is I'm just saying cuz they Check your check your brake lines before you start your car Y'all here to stay I think that's a check check your brake lines Before you start your car today

Starting point is 00:13:28 Y'all here to stay Yeah, I just only imagine that she gotta be funny. Oh man She had to be fun. I mean this was gills arena presented by hundred dollars It is very well may be our last show if anything happens to us just name it Someone did come out with a song. There's no more parties in L.A. Hey. Hey, Kendrick, we know now what you was rapping about. Swimming pools and shit.

Starting point is 00:13:55 What about you, Gil? Yes, Gil. The wildest thing that you missed in L.A.? I never went to no Hollywood party, right? But I went to Hollywood poker games. Mm. Mm. Okay. And I don't know what Hollywood parties are like but Hollywood poker games Let's just say this. Uh

Starting point is 00:14:13 How y'all drink water? That's how they do, uh the white stuff hard rock mmm 80s Energy drink right how to mate these players used to get ready for the games Let me get another one. They was doing this at the parties at the tables Like I can see them scarred Like yeah, yeah Y'all don't even just y'all even don't say Excuse me or nothing. Now the back the bad part about this is these are sheriff's

Starting point is 00:14:47 Judges allegedly no no hell no Lawyers judges and fire marshals at the table just do fire marshal bill out there turn it up Crazy thing I've ever seen though was they uh They bet someone 5,000 he wouldn't give a woman fellatio on the table. While the game was going on? While the game was going on. That sounds like some good work.

Starting point is 00:15:13 Got to know where to hold them and know where to fold them. Sounds like some good work. But think about it, degenerates, so they gamble on anything. Yeah. Right, anything. I bet you $5,000 you wouldn't do this and whoop. Bet it. Tell her, come over here. Anything yeah, right is anything I bet you five thousand you wouldn't do this and bet it Like tell it come over here

Starting point is 00:15:29 $5,000 mm-hmm man. I've been to some part. Yeah, some great parties man And that's you know some great reflect been to a Jamie Foxx party. Just reflecting. Yep. I've been to Jamie Foxx party I've been to Chris Brown party Drake Kardashians Will Smith hmm a lot of parties. She's a lot of shit. I've seen I've seen some shit, man We just asked you did you see you? I know, but then it's like, well, what the hell? I ain't seen much. I've gone around. Shit, I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot.

Starting point is 00:16:08 Well, shit, I had to think, like, well, damn. But, Gil, didn't you have a million-dollar party? Mm-hmm. But that was in D.C. Yeah, I mean, that's... That was at a club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had a million...

Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah, so I had the million-dollar party, and... Who's getting in trouble right now? Which one is that? Who is it diddy brother love? Yeah, cuz I had puff daddy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you yeah, this is brother love Yeah, yeah, I love daddy. Okay, right that was I puff daddy right not Diddy you sure what did he what he did? It was a peed that he wasn't Diddy was a son of them Sean I probably just missed Sean call Yeah It wasn't P Diddy. It wasn't P Diddy. It wasn't Diddy. It was Sean. Sean. I probably just missed Sean Collins.

Starting point is 00:16:46 Sean Collins. See, at the Oscars they'd be like, we don't know him. We know Sean. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I had, yeah, but he was just the host. So what was at this party? Like what you have in there for a million dollars? Like what was it?

Starting point is 00:16:58 It was, so it was everything. So I had to rent out the club, right? I had to theme it all out. So it was like poker one floor like uh huh there's your midgets no little people a little people I don't know if I have I'd have known about a watch of Wolf of Wall Street before you'd be doing that midget throwing fucking nobody complain it was like I had to rent out all jet blues okay so I'm gonna deal with gyps so I had to complain. I don't get fired. But it was like, I had to rent out all Jet Blues.

Starting point is 00:17:25 Okay. So I had to deal with Jet, so I had to rent out airlines, so everybody, so I basically made commercial flights all private. Gotcha.

Starting point is 00:17:32 For groups of, like people flying from everywhere. Gotcha. And then rented out the hotels for everyone to stay. So the four seasons,

Starting point is 00:17:38 I had to book out two four seasons and rent out every room. Four seasons too? Damn. So that's for most of the money. Nice.

Starting point is 00:17:44 The most of the money was from flight Did anybody say thank you? Yeah Adidas You know those and in the defense voted me in all so that's when I took up You know the whole start all-star battle all-star balance there for everybody that's old and then all that closure Okay, you know, so I spent two million dollars to get the Adidas contract for 40. Which I ended up losing on a gun charge. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:18:13 You know what I mean? So it was smart then dumb. It worked out. It worked out. But let's make the concept work. For sure, genius. This thing is smart. This is dumb shit. All right, but let's the concept works for so genius Let's get into some basketball Anthony Edwards came up with one of the biggest defensive plays of the season to help the Wolves get a win over the Pacers So let us take a look

Starting point is 00:18:37 With the Wolves up to in the final moments and man blocked Aaron Eastman's layup to preserve the victory And was turnt up. Yeah, there you go. After the game, Ant broke down to play. Yeah, I hit my head, I think on the rim. It's hurting real bad. And I landed on my wrist, but I mean, you know, I saw him with the lane. I knew he was going for the layup, and I was just like, man, I'm finna go get this.

Starting point is 00:19:02 I ain't never jumped that high in my life. Ooh. Damn. So some in the media have tried to argue that Antz block wasn't a big deal So some people in the media gear shall remain nameless, but I got to ask some real hoopers that I have on this couch How good was Antz game-saving block? Incredible Game-saving? Game's game-saving block. In the middle of the game, one minute of that is the save the game.

Starting point is 00:19:30 Since the LeBron block? I'm going to say the LeBron block is number one. That wasn't game-saving. That wasn't in the game. I know, not in the game, but that was game-saving. Because if you don't make that block, Kyrie come down and hit that three. Yeah, but this is it. Yeah, that's a regular season game. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but there's still this is deep. This is it Yeah, that's a regular

Starting point is 00:19:48 Regular season. That's I mean, that's the right season. What's about game? But this one like no no for sure no Before regular season game. Yeah, that's right now. You'd hit a year roll and you know, yeah Yeah, cuz he needed to go up extra the first guy who was that's not read Yeah, who do you jump off of? No, no, who's who was the first defender in front cuz he didn't get there. It was a McDaniels. Yeah, I think it was McDaniel Yeah, he didn't he wouldn't got that block so you needed all of hitting your head on the rim to block that But those are the players you make the win games. Those are those are championship type plays to be honest So impressive. Yeah, yeah, I mean a run of the mill. Yeah for sure. plays, to be honest. So impressive.

Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah, for sure. I'm just saying this. I'm just going to be, you know, Frank, the guy who's supposed to be leader of defensive player of the year, he didn't even jump. He was behind. He was late. I mean, both was behind. That should be Rudy.

Starting point is 00:20:41 That's all I'm saying. He's late. He's late. I mean, because he was in front of Ant-Man, and Ant-Man had to go by him. Say, I got this big fella. My question is this. As an offensive player, don't you supposed to be knowing that these niggas is about to try to cut you? Yeah, yeah. Like, you supposed to either smash that shit or go up and reverse that shit.

Starting point is 00:21:01 It's tough to just go up there and just, like, niggas be laying that shit. Nah, he heroed him, but he hit the, that slow you down. I know he ain't got that. He ain't got that D Wade power. He slow you down. Once you slow down, it gives like LeBron be waiting for you to take that extra little step to slow down. Cause I'm about to chase down block. Yeah. And you got to know the time. Like, come on. The time is like, put it on the glass first. That's the rule. Once it hit the glass, you can't block it. But once you're trying to float it and all that,

Starting point is 00:21:28 you're giving me a chance to go get it. Well, you know the basketball IQ is low in today's game. They ain't got that B.J. They ain't got that B.J. fillet, though. So, Gil, you mentioned... They ain't got that B.J. fillet. The Wolves' potential defensive player of the year. Let's talk about him a little bit.

Starting point is 00:21:42 So, during the Wolves-Cavs game, Rudy Gobert had enough of Scott Foster after getting called for his sixth foul late in the fourth quarter. Gobert here, Foster with the money sign. Subsequently given to Tech after the game, Gobert explained the gesture and how he believes sports betting is influencing basketball saying, the truth is, the truth is what I truly believe. Mistakes happen. Referees make mistakes too,

Starting point is 00:22:07 but sometimes I think it's more than mistakes. I think everyone that's in this league knows. I think it's got to be better. I know the betting and all that is becoming bigger and bigger, but it shouldn't feel that way. Naturally, he said it with a French accent. But the NBA hit Gobert with a $100,000 fine for the gesture and suggesting referees are influenced by sports betting.

Starting point is 00:22:25 Shout out to him, Donahue. According to the league, the fine also takes into account Gobert's past instances of conduct detrimental to the NBA with regard to publicly criticizing the officiating. This is the fourth time in his career that Gobert has been fined for criticizing officiating. Does he have a point? Yeah. I mean, there was a big scandal of a referee, just to be politically correct, a referee gambling on games. And even though there was other people that he's doing this to was in those calls and

Starting point is 00:23:01 part of this whole scandal. I'm pretty sure 100% of everybody who watches basketball thinks the same thing. And the fact that the NBA keeps trying to protect the same one entity is ridiculous. Like, I'm sorry. Like, you look stupid as an organization. The same one person who is showing that he's favoritism against Chris Paul, right?

Starting point is 00:23:28 We don't know if he's betting on those games, but we know when he goes against Chris Paul what the outcome is going to be. So the fact that you still have this entity in the NBA, there's 100% of people believe he's cheating. You can't do anything about it unless you get rid of him. So the fact that his name gets brought up and you keep trying to find everyone makes it look guilty even more. Just, hey, fucking take his ass and put him as associate

Starting point is 00:23:55 ref and charge of the referees. We don't give a fuck at this point, but as long as he's on the court, the integrity of referee is gonna be questioned. Period. Scott Foster nickname, the extender. The extender. This is his nickname. Yeah, but that's the case.

Starting point is 00:24:09 You know, he could still be influencing other refs too. But we're not looking at it. We don't get to see it every day. Every time he refs the games, we... Every time he refs the games, if they did a poll right now, this would be the biggest swing. And he would have to be there saying no. No, everybody, do you think Scott Foster cheats? a poll do it do a poll do I think false Scott

Starting point is 00:24:32 Foster gets paid or not so go bear find that hundred thousand dollars and the air was earlier this season alluded to some similar was fine forty thousand usually the fine for criticizing officials somewhere to the 10 to 30, I believe, range. But he did that. But once he put that money sign in front of it. But when it's obvious, your frustration come out when you just call that, you call that. Right. Not him.

Starting point is 00:24:58 Right. Not the rookie guy. You. And if you watch Scott actually ref, you see he can't wait to give some bullshit him and Tony brothers to me is like yo what are y'all out here doing y'all tripping y'all tripping but think about this you can't prove it that's why they do it you can't right here they get him doing this right here is proving it a honey nobody ever does that you keep proving you here proven. It can't prove that Scott is doing anything illegal

Starting point is 00:25:26 No, it's just like a email any of these other things I write. No, it's something Let's just say he got a cousin in Milwaukee or a cousin in Alaska. That's just literally like okay I'm gonna write this off. Hey Scott. What we doing tonight? Bet on this person You can't prove it. The problem is you can't, but that's as easy as it goes. That's how easy it is for me to be a referee and then just tell my gambling buddy or friend or cousin, whatever, to just say, yeah, I'm reffing this game and I'm going to foul out this person. I'm going to take

Starting point is 00:26:02 the over on this or take the under on this or here's her like it doesn't that is the easiest thing To do so the fact that we try to the NBA itself tries to pretend that it's not possible Is the bad part you now you think we're fucking stupid. Yep. So we asked the chat as you requested Gil We even done enough. How many people is in there? We're at 1,400 votes right now. I just want to tell you how it's going. They be here. They be on it, Gil. At 1,400? That's okay, okay.

Starting point is 00:26:30 So currently as it stands, 94% are in agreement. This might be our most unanimous chat. Scott, like, hey, man, meet me at Mel's Diner and bring all the bread. You owe me. You owe me the bread. I need all the bread you owe me you owe me the bread i need all the bread and cash it doesn't say it's just it's just just across sports period this is across sports like the guys who have the whistle has the power right so the fact that you will think and try to pretend

Starting point is 00:26:58 that it doesn't exist you make it you make it look guilty right i'd rather you just say yeah we're investigating scott to make sure and then you know two three weeks later after your investigation. We didn't find anything Right that is easier to do that diverses just finding everybody keeping them on games and then pretending like what everyone's saying Doesn't exist did it do Eric did he retire he got sent to early retirement. Yeah, that's all they need to do Send him to early retirement That's the fucked up part the dude who has a backup account We're not saying he do have a backup account or didn't have a backup account He was defending himself like that was it like we read is it that wasn't me

Starting point is 00:27:44 That wasn't my car or that wasn't like we read is it that wasn't me that wasn't my car Oh, that wasn't my brother's call. That wasn't There's nothing about nothing in there But protecting his play that I didn't do this we didn't I didn't like which it wasn't his call. He didn't make the play he gets Gotta go he he's gone for that. I know Chris Paul for years And then Chris we have proof that everything Scott Foster. I know Chris Paul for years and then Chris we have proved that Everything Scott Foster has done with Chris Paul has went against Chris Paul We we we could we have records of it. You had a meeting you had a meeting about it. Yeah, and he's still there

Starting point is 00:28:15 I May without my son man, man. We're not my son. He's still here So Eric Lewis was the the ref of the pro Celtics ref that was sent to early retirement And it wasn't even his call the guy who made the call Still coach still reference It's hard out here, but that's why that's why when you turn my brother On the brothers 20 brothers. Obviously he ain't doing them because obviously if you black About black or white we just saying just saying there's a little rope.

Starting point is 00:28:46 There's a little rope. Gotta put them pit bulls on leash. Sheesh. Okay. Let's keep it moving. Another productive day in the arena. You know when we're here. We will see if we make it to the end of the show.

Starting point is 00:28:58 We will. Things got turnt up during the women's SEC championship game between undefeated South Carolina and LSU. I see you nod your head, Gil, ready to do it. It was smoke time. So started with Malaysia for a while. He ripped Flage Johnson, who then got called for an intentional foul. Johnson exchanged some words

Starting point is 00:29:15 and bumped South Carolina's Ashley Watkins. Then 6'7", Camila Cardoza ran over, pushed Flage to the ground, May Lane sued. Players from both sides got into it, and Flage's brother Darted from the stands onto the court to defend it seriously. You can see him coming right about

Starting point is 00:29:31 He was quick to even in slo-mo. You see him over there to the right boot right on the court He wanted smoke initially, but now I think he realized What was going down? Game was delayed for 20 minutes while officials sorted things out. In total, six players were ejected. Hey, brother of the year, man. So in total, six players were ejected from the game.

Starting point is 00:29:57 Flau'jae's brother got a police escort off the court. Who was that? Was arrested. That dude is big. The other brother, probably? Yeah, probably the other brother. Oh, the brother. Right here, right here. Who was that coming towards the end? Probably team security. I dude is big. Yeah. The other brother, probably? Yeah, probably the other brother. Oh, the brother. Right here?

Starting point is 00:30:05 Right here. Who was that coming in towards the end? Probably team security. I don't know. So South Carolina went on to win the game and remain unbeaten. And in the tournament, general reaction to it getting turned up. Man, that's the toughest shit I've seen all year. From who? And they was apologizing for that?

Starting point is 00:30:26 Well, we've been talking about how soft the game of basketball is and like that's the toughest i've seen anything all year like that's that's great for women's basketball yeah i think it's great for basketball just in general yeah but definitely for you know i mean i know women they want to you know be positive but you know it's in the championship game it gets heated heated like that. Like, I'm rolling. Facts. Facts. Shall you agree? I'm just not rolling with an old boy

Starting point is 00:30:48 coming out the stands, man. You can't be out there trying to wreck with the girls, man. You need your ass whooped. What you doing, man? I'm going to fuck his sister.

Starting point is 00:30:57 They out there handling their own. Yeah. What you doing? Relax. Ain't no other dude out there for you to jump over. You jumped in and you tried to push. What you doing? What you doing, man? dude out there for you to jump over. You jumped in and you tried to push.

Starting point is 00:31:06 What you doing? What you doing, man? Stop it. I'm going to be honest. She's 6'7". She probably whooped his ass any goddamn way. But she was showing that heat. She was showing heat for the other team. And then she came in.

Starting point is 00:31:15 That was the Draymond. It's similar. When you start fucking with my teammate, the other teammate come in and it's a health thing, right? So the one thing you didn't see is Andrew Reese No, she was on the bench sitting there. She's I ain't want no parts of this shit No, she won't get suspended probably man. She just she twisted her ankle Like if you don't see her she's been in there. She went to the bench. No no what I'm saying is she what she was

Starting point is 00:31:38 She twisted her ankle. So she's sitting there like this. She looked up. She said okay. I'm gonna go over here So you and that's the thing. It's like the girls that the girls do the girls thing they doing anything They don't pull each other hair out. I go pull them away. Y'all ready It's a sport what I'm saying the bad thing about the brothers and in a situation for the game itself, right? This is what you expect from a championship game. No one wants to lose so The actions of all the players make sense, right? This is the championship game, right? No one wants to lose. Everything is taken with a little bit of grain. They're talking trash back and forth. The refs here,

Starting point is 00:32:20 all the refs here should be, they should be upgraded to the NBA and the WNBA. Because throughout this game, Andrew Reese and what's her name, Cordoza? Yeah, Camila Cordoza. The trash talking they were doing the whole game and didn't get a tech forward. The referees let them talk their trash, do all of that, that was amazing. The ref didn't intervene, tell a girl, stop talking, give them text

Starting point is 00:32:52 for them going back and forth with each other. Right, so you got to see a real game. Both girls are playing very hard. The whole team's playing very hard. So what happened, that is called basketball. The brother jumping out the stands, right? It is girl basketball. They have team.

Starting point is 00:33:09 This is what the sport is. You got, what, third degree? So, yeah, Flau J's brother was arrested and charged with third degree assault and battery and disorderly conduct in the incident. So do you blame him for coming to the defense of his sister? Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%. He making men look bad. He making men look bad. His sister had the energy. He do you blame him for coming to the defense of his sister? Yes. Oh, yeah. 100%.

Starting point is 00:33:25 He making men look bad. He making men look bad. His sister had the energy. He make her look bad. Because now when people look at her, they look at what he did, right? What she did is part of sports, right? She, you know, she fouls. She got ripped. She fouls. Girl try to tough her up. She chucks.

Starting point is 00:33:41 And then she gets pushed. Like, that's all equal in each other. Her brother coming up there, him just coming on there. Kind of, we look at her like, that's the kind of family you have? That just come out of the stands whenever there's a tussle with you? What's it called? What do we call that? Well, he the girl in the family.

Starting point is 00:33:56 What do we call that? He probably the girl in the family. Nigga shit. And that's what it looks like. Nigga shit. Come on, man. Sit down somewhere. You know, he probably single.

Starting point is 00:34:05 Sit down. He little. He little. The work probably talking to him like,. Come on, man. Sit down somewhere. You know, he's probably single. Just sit down. Just making. He little. He little. The work probably talk to him like go, go, go. The work probably tell him All the girls are bigger than him. No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:34:12 Put him around. Move around. Yeah, watch out. Go ahead. We know how NBA scouts is. Right? Yeah, no. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:19 She gets penalized for family factions. Not him. Facts. Yeah. Right? When they're thinking about doing NIL deals, she gets penalized.

Starting point is 00:34:28 Like, that's who you have. Like, how many times are you going to be in WNBA and a girl hits her and we got to worry about you jumping in and coming on her? You know what I mean? So that's her only problem with it. I imagine he won't be. If this was like a street fight or something, that's bad because it's girls, right if you're gonna break it up but don't come in here trying to put your hand on the girl that kind of Yeah, mom the mom had already been talking about Angel Reese. I believe they had a little bit a little some

Starting point is 00:34:55 Mm-hmm a little summer. That a little yeah. Yeah, they going back and forth already. Yeah on some Lose in the why they let you she's huge to know she's raps. Signed to Roc Nation, like all type of stuff. That's what I said. You don't need that image. Right? Like, that's what I said. What the girls did on the court itself, that is cancellation. That's part of the game.

Starting point is 00:35:16 Someone can say you started it because you chucked the girl, but that's all emotion, too. Yep. Right? So everything was warranted, right? Didn't Flau'jae get ejected? She got ejected. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:31 I think Flau'jae didn't get ejected. Cardozo got ejected. It was three other players that got ejected. So a couple players from South Carolina, I think, benched in the LSU. Because everybody jumped the bench. But it's so good. It's good for the girls' game because not only do it show toughness,

Starting point is 00:35:46 but it's outshined in the men's game because, you know, I've heard a couple other podcasts talk about, you know, the women's game being bigger than the men's game right now

Starting point is 00:35:54 because we know certain names more than we know other guys. So it's like, you look at this, and you go, this is on SportsCenter now. Then you got

Starting point is 00:36:01 Kaitlin Clark on there. Then you got Juju on there. It's like, well, you look on the other side, like, who the hell is we looking at on the men's side? Bronny? Rob Dilley. Bronny. They got to break the rim in men's basketball.

Starting point is 00:36:13 Man. So now they got to step up. So it's like, I like the skirmish. I like all the rah-rah and all that. And Andrew Reese is giving that Draymond vibe. Like, I'm on my shit. Fuck all y'all. Y'all got to prove it. I heard what she was saying,

Starting point is 00:36:29 but they've been getting their ass beat like 16 straight times. Who? Angel Reese and them. By them? Yeah, by South Carolina. I mean, but that's what I said. It's, you know, South Carolina's the dominant team.

Starting point is 00:36:38 They're the dominant team. So she got to change that. She got to change that. She got to change that. They're on the six-game losing game. So speaking of Angel, Angel Reese also hopped on Twitter after the game to explain why she did not

Starting point is 00:36:46 jump into the melee. Oh, she did? She said, as a person at my status, sometimes you have to walk away from certain situations. Mind you, the play before that,

Starting point is 00:36:54 I had rolled my ankle again and was already walking to the bench. I always ride for mine. I'm super proud of this team and super excited for March. Go Tigers. Listen,

Starting point is 00:37:03 none of you ladies got to apologize for playing the game hard and fighting for respect and every inch on the floor. That's what everyone's complaining about now because they say no one's doing it. So don't apologize for doing it. If someone is questioning the ethics of the game, then just tell them, look at a bunch of college men and the NBA up until now. I mean, besides Rudy getting choked,

Starting point is 00:37:35 we haven't seen no passion in the game since Anthony Edwards blocked. And LeBron James fourth quarter. LeBron James fourth quarter. But other than that, we're questioning, are the males playing hard Yes, I mean, you know angel wasn't apologizing She was a she was apologizing because some people called her out saying that she was ducking smoke by not rushing in To support it was a Russian and throw a haymaker This is stupid right? I mean, that's what I said did you rush in throw a haymaker now? You should spend it for the tournament right now

Starting point is 00:38:03 Everybody's gonna call you an idiot for Doing that exactly right because whoever she went to She touched she got kicked out of the game, so it's it's it's all she kind of just calling everybody else It is y'all stupid yeah, so as of right now nobody is suspended for the NCAA tournament I imagine flies age brother will not be making any appearances at any games in the name wait for the women's tournament this year I'm more excited for the women's tournament this year. I'm more excited for the women's tournament this year than the men's. Sparks!

Starting point is 00:38:26 I'm dead ass. Juju, she got a chance to beat a rookie, I mean, a freshman and win it. You know, LSU trying to go back. It's just a bunch of, like, South Carolina. It's just a... I want a Kaitlyn Clark jersey. I ain't going home.

Starting point is 00:38:38 I want a Kaitlyn Clark jersey. I need a Juju jersey. I got time to get Juju. But Kaitlyn, I need that K. Is this the most exciting? I mean, I know because we're in a time where You know, we have YouTube and media and all that stuff. Is this the most exciting time of like Like women's college basketball. Yes, my fault. It's currently already like going into the tournament. Is this the biggest? Yeah, I think last year it really helped elevate us at the stage, but this year you got so many rivalries, so many people out here balling.

Starting point is 00:39:09 And it's not just the Melees and the skirmishes, but what Katelyn Clark's doing, what Juju's doing, what Stanford's out here doing, what the UCLA Bruins are out here doing. I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't even watch the JV. I call that JV. Yeah. But I'ma watch girls this year. Listen, no, it's all about that.

Starting point is 00:39:23 I'm not watching males. You call college basketball JV. I call college JV to the pros. Yeah, for sure. But I'm not gonna watch. I'm not watching girls. I'm not watching girls. I'm not watching girls. I'm not watching girls. You call college basketball, JV. I call college basketball, JV. JV to the pros. Yeah, for sure. But I'm not going to watch the males. I mean...

Starting point is 00:39:31 And then just, we got news this morning. So, according to NCAA rules, Cardozo will miss South Carolina's next game, which will be its opening first round match in the NCAA tournament. It's easy. It's easy. It's light work. See, that's light work for them, though. Light work.

Starting point is 00:39:43 So, Angel Reese, luckily you didn't go out there. Now if she would have did that, Thug and all the other... Because at least one is a first seed, so they're playing 16. Yep. They need to be on the opposite side. I hope they do it right. Well, if the NCAA is smart, they will set the stage for a very dramatic Final Four. We need Kaylin Clark in there. Because Kaylin Clark can be juju.

Starting point is 00:40:02 I mean, Kaylin's going gonna get in there because she just She's just a little different Team I mean, she's she's she's playing with a bunch of you know future school teachers and vets She's care she's carrying Future lawyers and stuff Already got job. They're going to get jobs. They did. They already got jobs. Yeah, they're getting jobs because of her.

Starting point is 00:40:29 So after the game, South Carolina head coach Don Staley and LSU head coach Kim Mulkey took some time to address the altercation. I just want to apologize for what took place out here today. You know, sometimes we play basketball, things get a little bit heated. I know it didn't come from an ugly place. It just came from a place of being competitors. We don't like the reaction.

Starting point is 00:40:55 We won't get better with handling situations like this. So I want to apologize for our stock going under on this basketball team. No one wants to be a part of that. No one wants to see that ugliness. But I can tell you this. I wish she would have pushed Angel Reese. Don't push a kid. You 6'8", don't push somebody that little.

Starting point is 00:41:28 That was... Not around my nigga, she came. She stands on business all day. But people were talking about... She would have pushed Angel Reese. She would have did the same thing. I don't know. She would have did the same thing. They would have did the same thing. I don't know. She would have did the same thing.

Starting point is 00:41:45 They would have did the same thing. Bro, this is a championship, bro. South Carolina feel like, bro. Yeah, you smoke. I like this rival, bro. But y'all didn't see them playing, like, the whole game. Andrea was going at it, yeah. I mean, they were.

Starting point is 00:41:58 Oh, no, she was plunking her. Oh, okay. I mean, but. You ain't got nothing. Little girl. Like, even though she's taller. She's taller than a little. Love the women's game. That's my the level of trash. Oh that

Starting point is 00:42:10 I'm telling you the baby. That's like the man gotta come home. It's a beautiful thing. I love to hear Don say I would you wouldn't push me Yeah But you wouldn't push Angel, but you wouldn't push me. Let's play one. What's up? That coach is phenomenal. Like, come on. Something just happened. You're supposed to be on the positive. Like, you know, our girls, we don't want to do this. She lucky she didn't push me.

Starting point is 00:42:37 Or she would have had hands. Yeah, that's what we need. That's where we at. Bro, that's where we at with it right now. That's where the hoop is at right now. So you think Monkey, good job defending her players, or was she out of line with her company? Because if Don Staley would have said that, the reaction would have been. I love it, bro.

Starting point is 00:42:52 I love it, man. If Monkey would have said what Don Staley said, if Don Staley would have said what Monkey said. You got your energy, man. You do you, man. LSU got great energy, bro. Do you, man. She the leader of the pack, too.

Starting point is 00:43:03 So she's basically saying Angel got her energy from me. I'm giving her that energy. Like, yeah, it's okay, Angel. Go out there and talk your shit. I'm rolling with the statement. We don't believe you. You need more people. Drop the mic.

Starting point is 00:43:16 Okay, ladies. Well, we look forward for the rematch in the near future, hopefully during the NCAA tournament. NCAA, if you're smart, you will make it happen. You know what we want to see. And that is what it is. But let's move over to the men's side, a little NBA action,

Starting point is 00:43:30 with some hibachi time. So, Rashad, you were in the group chat begging for us to talk about the Lakers and this two-game winning streak. So we did not want to do it. We did not want to do it. We would have been happy not talking anything Laker-related today. But since you requested it, since you made the request,

Starting point is 00:43:53 how much love we have for you on this very program we had to oblige. I wore my LeBrons for the day. Oh, we got the purple LeBrons. I wore my purple LeBrons today. Hey, bro, you low-key got to bring those out. Those LeBron ones, right? Yeah. Yeah, those are the best LeBron shoes.

Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah, I tried to get him autographed. Those are the best. No autographs. He didn't have a pen. He didn't have no pen. He didn't have a pen. Hey, you see how the dog socks look with the LeBron? You see, yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know LeBron want to be a lion. Little tough crowd. He's a limited edition, see what I'm saying? You know, come fuck with the dogs, bro. I know you're lying. Yeah, so shout out It was a don't hate bra. I know you're not Greatness Productive past few days for the lake show on Friday. They faced off against the Bucks even though LeBron was a no-go

Starting point is 00:44:43 They still had D.Lo. D-Lo dropped 44 points on the Bucs head. Including 21 in the fourth quarter. Career-high 9-3s in the game. And he hit the game-winning bucket with six seconds remaining.

Starting point is 00:45:01 There it is. Timeout! So Russell Taney with the Lakers have been a mix of highs and lows, but we've seen a lot of highs this year. We are rolling. And boop. He looks real nice out there. 5.9 seconds remaining.

Starting point is 00:45:19 He looks real comfortable against that Bucs great defense. Hey, you know what's crazy? Hey, yo, we got them in two weeks. Don't worry about it you know what crazy? Yeah, we got them in two weeks Don't worry about it. Oh, don't worry. We got them in two weeks in Milwaukee. We're not I'll be there You said that would I be the energy just saying like it's gonna be a hell The Bucks ain't lost since I've been to a game in Milwaukee. They ain't never lost since I've been to two games No, I've been 12. I've been to 11 games. Oh this year I've been to 11 games. This year? No, no, no.

Starting point is 00:45:45 Since the Bucs have won a championship, the Bucs have never lost since I've been to a game. How many games have you been there since Doc has coached? One. They won that game? Charlotte. I don't care. I'm more than enough.

Starting point is 00:46:00 God damn it, I'm more than enough. God damn it, I'm more than enough. Mr. Bucs at six, you did bring the winning ways. You got that interview with Giannis for us after the game. What's your record with that? 1-0. As some of you may not know, Mr. B, the first member of Gil's Arena to be credentialed for an NBA game. Yes, sir.

Starting point is 00:46:24 He entered the street. I got in there. So let me know. I'm going back again. 326, let me know. It's a good question, too. Anything you want me to ask, Bron? I don't really think about it. We'll talk about it. Next time you do the Yon, it's smack everybody else's camera down.

Starting point is 00:46:40 No, no. I'm going to do it. Y'all can't record this. See what they say. But so D'Lo, like we said, dropped a 44. Tanning with the Lakers, been a mix of highs and lows. Gone from one of the most hated to a crowd favorite. After the game, D'Lo talked about never losing his confidence.

Starting point is 00:46:58 Off the floor, obviously, y'all know what I've been through. Public humiliation has done nothing but molded me into the killer that y'all see today. And I never, I never lack confidence. I never fear confrontation. I want all the smoke. I want to talk about it. Let's high IQ players, let's get in the room and talk about it.

Starting point is 00:47:21 I just feel confident in what I bring to the basketball game. If it's film, if it's watching it, helping young players, I just in what I bring to the basketball game. If it's film, if it's watching it, helping young players, I just know what I bring to the table. So whatever room I walk in, I'm confident. Last one. We were trying to unfreeze the situation. You know what happens?

Starting point is 00:47:38 If whoever said I ate the Wi-Fi, funny. Damn. I mean, but he says he's a killer. we're back a killer back no he's like I'll see out there what he saw he was cooking damn no no no no no I mean that's fine but okay he don't look different though well what is this difference are they gonna like yeah I mean you're a Laker so we want championships here so but do he is it a no I guess there's he look rejuvenated? I mean, he went through the same

Starting point is 00:48:06 thing Russ went through. No. He more dependable right now. What are you averaging, like 22 since the break? Since February? He's been killing. Shooting about 42% from three? I just think that's the problem. It's the same with Russ. When Braun is on the

Starting point is 00:48:22 court, I think everyone starts thinking too much. Yeah. Right? This is how you're supposed to play, period. Right? And that was my whole thing. Be assertive. Shoot first, think second. Let him pass the ball to the rest of the motherfuckers. You do you.

Starting point is 00:48:38 That's what Kyrie did. I've guarded Mo Williams, right? Mo Williams didn't sit there and try to make plays for the team. He was scoring. Kyrie too. That's what made him hard to guard. Same thing with Kyrie. Let LeBron worry about the rest of the team. Dito, you go out there and do exactly

Starting point is 00:48:54 what you're doing. Try to score. Be a dominant force because you have it in you. You were an all-star. You were an all-star. You carried that Nets team. Right? That's who we need here.

Starting point is 00:49:10 We don't need D-Lo trying to get eight, nine assists. No, thank you. That's LeBron's job. That's why I'm just kind of like whatever with him. Because it's like, be like that then all the time. Like you just said. You said Kyrie. You said Mo Williams.

Starting point is 00:49:24 Even Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade They were still themselves like they wasn't like not not trying to you know Get their points and do what they do like that's what that's the thing is just like all right You say you're a killer would be a killer then he has like well be well be when he on the court to though when Browns on the court wait right now. We're killing we're in kill mode Kill mode right now first of all you guys are first round out all right get the fuck out of here what what do you have last night man i'm pulling the bruno that's our first 26 of 19 26 they've been the man 40 the man killing right now 13 last night so listen it's not gonna be enough come 13 last night and he had 44 ron

Starting point is 00:49:59 not on the flow you were just saying all that like be yourself when bron on the floor. You were just saying all that. Be yourself. When Brian on the floor, you can't. You can. Yes, you can. Ain't none of them players. Yes, you can. Ain't none of them players. Yes, you can. It's been proven.

Starting point is 00:50:10 No, it has been proven that you can be yourself. No, it's been proven that other guys have to delegate their game. Kyrie, Dwyane Wade. No, no. Kevin Love.

Starting point is 00:50:18 No, no. Kevin Love was hooping. No, he was not. Yes, he was. Kevin Love went into mental health breakdown because he was getting his ass busted by Draymond Green cuz he was saying that the bra I can't say the same cuz I got so much pressure

Starting point is 00:50:34 You gotta be built different and he not built like that to be like to play with wrong like that's all look He's not a way like Chris boss had to say Chris boss. Hey, Chris boss was killed Come together and say, we got to get him. We got to stop this Chris Bosh slander. We got to get his man in the ring, man. Come on. Because he not playing like himself,

Starting point is 00:50:52 and that's he number one. Who? Bron. Bron got finals MVP and MVP twice over there. Because he got to be the number one. He can't play the number two. But when D-Lo number one, you see how D-Lo play.

Starting point is 00:51:02 It's the... You see how... D-Lo being number one on the team. LeBron come back on the floor, what happened? 13 points. Because you need LeBron to be number one. Listen, he's not a number one guy. He was a number one guy the other night.

Starting point is 00:51:14 Kyrie averaged 25 with LeBron. Without LeBron. No, with LeBron. What did he average without LeBron? 20. Boom. So I'm averaging 25 more with LeBron. That means my game is,. So I'm averaging 25 more with LeBron. That means my game

Starting point is 00:51:25 that means I'm hooping. Because when LeBron's on the floor with Kyrie he has to delegate to Kyrie because Kyrie's a better offensive player. Okay. K-Love is not. You said Kyrie's game. Chris Bosh is not. Chris Bosh is a hell of an offensive player. He's not better.

Starting point is 00:51:41 You said Kyrie's game suffered when LeBron got there. It did. When it's been heightened. That's what he said. He's not Kyrie's game suffered when LeBron got there. Right. And heightened. That's what he said. He's literally like, man, I'm not the point guard. I'm not the point guard when I play with LeBron. But he averaged 25 because LeBron don't want any shots that he taken. Then he went to Boston and averaged 24, 23. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:01 So the highest was with LeBron. So he plays better with LeBron. No, he doesn't play better. He just scores more. Yeah. That doesn't mean play better. That doesn't mean play better. I'm scoring more.

Starting point is 00:52:11 I'm efficient. And we're winning. He averaged 4.7 assists without LeBron. 5.8 with LeBron. Left an average 5.1. So, we going stat man, stat man? No, we're just going reality. We're just going reality I mean, I know you don't want to get called up for what you're saying, but I'm just right here

Starting point is 00:52:29 You know, he played what it looked like. I know what it looked like we were watching them Yeah, he don't want to like he don't you don't feel comfortable. We don't look so if you don't go back to them Oh taste with Kyrie playing with LeBron. You don't see the difference between him playing then and now It's night and day as As far as what, him playing with Luka? Yeah. Him playing with Luka and him going to Boston. He's way more comfortable now than he was before. No, he's not.

Starting point is 00:52:51 No, he's late. Way more comfortable. There's no way in hell you're comfortable playing with Luka. He has to defer to Luka more than he had to do with LeBron. No, he's way more mature. He's way more mature. Yeah, he has to defer more to Luka. He has to defer more to Luka than he had to do LeBron.

Starting point is 00:53:05 LeBron's chilling. In the fourth quarter? Yeah. Because Kyrie gets to defer more to Luka. He has to defer more to Luka than he has to do LeBron. LeBron chillin'. In the fourth quarter? Yeah. Because Kyrie gets the ball in the fourth quarter. I'm telling you. Because Luka can actually fucking score the fucking ball anytime he wants to. LeBron can too. That's why he averaged, that's why he has 40,000 points.

Starting point is 00:53:17 Excuse me? That's why he has 40,000. He can score whatever he wants. Because he's played 37 years, bro. What are you talking about? The guy he beat played 37 years. I'm scoring whenever I want. But I'm saying the guy he beat

Starting point is 00:53:27 played the same amount of years. It would be 45,000 points if Michael Jordan played 22 years. We don't know. We can guess. We do know. No, we don't. We do fucking know. We don't know. Why you ain't never tired when you're on the floor? Same reason Michael Jordan wasn't tired

Starting point is 00:53:43 when he was on the floor. So tell me why. You can run it. You ain't never tired when you're on the floor. Same reason Michael Jordan wasn't tired when he was on the floor. We want to go there. Let's go there. So tell me why. You can run it. You can run that same narrative everybody's running. But I can tell you, go look at Aiden. You're 40. You're 40.

Starting point is 00:53:53 You're never tired. My A's hurt watching you. Okay. You doing this? Hey, do y'all know Jordan? Jordan. Hey, Jordan. Y'all didn't hear that?

Starting point is 00:54:02 We played. You ain't tired? We played three rounds of 18 holes of golf in a day, and then Jordan come out and give us 55. I'm tired as hell, but Jordan wasn't. You ain't sweating? Yeah, Jordan wasn't. Why you ain't sweating on the floor?

Starting point is 00:54:16 Jordan wasn't sweating either. You're 40. You ain't probably sweating at least. Three rounds of 18 golf. Why you not tired? But I'm saying, whatever you're saying, just remember, just remember, there's six tests now. There was one test. I just remember just remember there's six tests now There was one about this. I'm just saying there's six

Starting point is 00:54:29 I've been a little tips there say I know what you're trying to get there's six tests now. There was one test back then So all the players that was playing 82 games every year Walking through the NBA season, all those players. You going to be rubbing your knees when you're watching? If we just want to go there. If you just want to go there. You know what I mean? There was a lot of players playing 82 games.

Starting point is 00:54:55 What did Michael Jordan play at 40 years old averaging 20? No sleep. I know them knees. Golfing. I know them knees. Smoking. Drinking. Cigars.

Starting point is 00:55:04 Smoking. Drinking. Gambling. And he played all 82 games. Michael Jordan sweating warm-up lines. I know the means are often I'm not a mokin drinking bar smoke cigar smoking drinking gambling Yeah, and it looked like and he played all 82 days Michael Jordan sweating warm-up line 82 games He did play 82 games. They're playing 80 as a 40 year old man averaging 20 who gambled then you say, you know You say, you know, why don't then you say, you know, I know why I'm just asking you if you want to throw out those scenarios We can just let's just go through history and just rip it all said, you know, why though? Didn't you say you know why? I know why. I'm just asking you. If you want to throw out those scenarios, we can just, let's just go through history and just rip it all apart. You said you know why though. Let's rip it all apart. So if you know why

Starting point is 00:55:29 and I know why, we know why. I'm just wondering every other sport got busted for besides the NBA. You know why? I know why. We know why. I'm just saying if everyone knows the NBA had a drug problem in the 80s, but nobody got caught for drugs in their system, don't that sound a little weird?

Starting point is 00:55:54 You have it on record, players were gambling on games. They had drug problems, and they were shaving points in games. It is on record. FBI had to come in, but not one drug test proved it. I mean, come on now. Let's just leave it as it is and just watch the game like everybody else. Because if you want to dig, we can dig. And I can show you some pictures.

Starting point is 00:56:19 I can show you some pictures of full head of hair. Three months later, hairline gone. Buffer than a motherfucker out there. All I'm saying is, end of the season, end of the season like this, whole front gone. Three months later, buffed in a month. So let's not do it. I'm just saying, man.

Starting point is 00:56:41 Google is a great place. Why you do it? Why you do it? Why you do that? I just said he didn't sweat. all i'm saying is the internet wasn't the internet today you said skinny all i'm saying i didn't say nothing i just said he not sweating i know i used to be tired all i'm saying is this all i'm saying is this all i'm saying is that you had waves when the season ended? Decided you needed to get buffers to face them clotheslines and then you hear go on the next year is all I'm not saying nothing was taking all I'm saying damn 20 pounds bigger jumping out the roof

Starting point is 00:57:22 hairline All I can say is, well, I mean, everybody else, I mean, shit, baseball is fucking hitting the ball out the goddamn stadium. Shit, they got very bonds. Baseball, football, track. Where's the basketball players? Ah, nothing. In the gym following the rules. I didn't say nothing about skinny necks. All I'm saying is, listen.

Starting point is 00:57:43 They showed the pictures of skinny neck niggas, and I was like, okay, I ain't say nothing about skinny necks. All I'm saying is, listen. They showed the pictures of skinny neck niggas and I was like, okay, I ain't got nothing to do with that. Hey, the only person they got was Tristan Thompson.

Starting point is 00:57:50 Oh, they got him? That's it, 25 years. No, no, no, they got,

Starting point is 00:57:53 no, no, no, they got some, they got some more. Aiden as well. I got Aiden too. I know,

Starting point is 00:57:57 I mean, he's the latest. The skinny neck. The latest of the skinny neck. bring it up. I was just saying, I didn't see him sweating, but your knees should be hurting and okay. I'm just saying. I wasn't him sweating. Your knees should be hurting.

Starting point is 00:58:06 And okay. I'm just saying. I wasn't alluding to nothing. We can run. But that's what I'm saying. They can run the narrative all they want. But just remember, there's six drug tests now. There was only one then.

Starting point is 00:58:16 So after you got drug tested, let's just say if you decided you wanted to be on bow Cole October 2nd Hmm. No one was gonna check you Again into the following training camp September 31st is all I'm saying if you decided crazy You wanted to be on something that enhanced your ability to play 82 games There was no drug test that tested you up until 2004. Is all I want to say. Okay. So, if we want to question today with six drug tests

Starting point is 00:58:51 and you want to pretend that they didn't have no drug test back then, then it sounds like you guys are on the witch hunt. Is all I'm saying. Because I can tell you... I can tell you after Or both sides are good. I can tell you, after 2004, it just seemed like it was harder to guard Shaq.

Starting point is 00:59:11 Versus before 2004, it seemed like handshaking with one hand, big fella, kind of easy. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was easy. If you was at Gold's Gym every goddamn day. If you was working out with Arnold Schwarzenegger Don't be sweating I be like, oh, are you not sweating? You run it up and down. Climate control. I'm just saying it was an era where everybody was strong as fuck for no damn reason. The nigga's taking a shot at that.

Starting point is 00:59:53 All of a sudden you was out. You remember, it was like, yeah, you know, the handshake, they was just holding us in the corner. I wonder how strong you got to be to stay in the corner. No challenge is strongest So angry for no reason, okay We just want to pretend this did happen I bet. We will pretend to be stupid all we want. We will do our best to try to move on. Son of a...

Starting point is 01:00:31 You got to do it, bitch. Come on, man. You're not supposed to do that. I'm not even going to play for this. Everybody in the 80s, 90s, bitch, at 500... You got to look at the neck. Bitch, at 500 pounds. Look at the neck. Hey, bitch, at 500 pounds.

Starting point is 01:00:43 Everything... I have no idea what Gil's alluding to. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I like my job, Gil. I'm just saying. I'm just saying when I came in 2001, I got tested one time and didn't get tested again until the following training camp. So if I decided I wanted to get a little stronger bigger faster I had eleven and a half months good do whatever I wanted as we know your hairline your hairline was more

Starting point is 01:01:14 important to you as you see you pointed out press the hairline you had a jump but I do I do lose my hair you good He had a jumper. I did lose my hairline, though. I do my push-ups, but I did lose my hairline. Great hat selection, though. Don't shade me. The greatness caps. Big caps. Big caps. So Sunday, Lakers face the depleted Wolves squad,

Starting point is 01:01:34 missing Cat and Rudy Gobert, amongst others. So Anthony Davis decided to make some history on the eve of his 31st birthday. So AD dropped 27 points, 25 rebounds, 5 dimes, 7 steals, and 3 blocks. You see it. And yes, they were a little under, man, but nonetheless, Luka Garza can get this work, too. So AD is the first player in NBA history with 25-plus points, 25-plus rebounds, 5-plus assists, 5-plus steals, and 3-plus blocks in the same NBA game. That's not a good stat? No, it's a good stat.

Starting point is 01:02:11 Just stop. No, stop rolling your eyes. I just hate when they just make up stats. How are they making that up? Nobody's ever had that stat line in history. You know when it started, right? Y'all know when this bullshit started? It was when Golden State was on that run,

Starting point is 01:02:26 and they started just making up. First team in the first quarter that had 32 points on a Tuesday at 5 o'clock with Gatorade commercials running. Like, they just started making up. And you're just sitting here looking like, what the hell is going on? Quality Gatorade commercials. No, I'm just saying, but that's because I'm pretty sure. What was it, 73 and 9 or something?

Starting point is 01:02:46 That's what. It started a little bit before that, but it was like all these records were being created and broken, and it was just the weirdest thing ever. And it seemed like this one of them... Because I guarantee if you started looking, it'd be like he has, what, three blocks

Starting point is 01:03:02 to put him in this category by himself. But is this showing the range? I remember they did that with Draymond Green. Remember this one? It had Westbrook, it had LeBron James, and it had the Big O, right? The Big O averages triple-double. Russell averages triple-double. Russ averages triple-double. No, it wasn't that yet.

Starting point is 01:03:26 No, it wasn't when Russ averaged triple-double because KD was still there. But they were doing like, they dumbed it down for Draymond. It was like, you know, first players in history. He joins third. He's the third person to join. The average, 15 plus 7 and 8. It was one of those type. But the other two is like

Starting point is 01:03:48 31, 10 and 10. And then they put LeBron in there with 30, 8 and 8. And then you just, like, come on. It's a triple-double stat. Don't just fucking start throwing people in there just to make them part of this. You dumbed down stats to Pippenbuehler.

Starting point is 01:04:04 Clickbait. Clickbait. I've sent them a message, Gil. Let them know. He's also the first Laker with 25 and 25 games since Shaq in 2004. Okay, 25. Okay, now that's a good one. 25 points and 45 rebounds.

Starting point is 01:04:20 Is that impressive to you? That's impressive. Okay, just want to make sure. That's impressive. 25 and 25. Not impressive to you? Ain't no bigs out there. Yeah, that. No. That's impressive. 25 and 25. Not impressive to you? Ain't no bigs out there. Yeah, that's fair.

Starting point is 01:04:27 You can't do nothing out there with that band. Huh? 25 and 25. 25 is still tough. For a stat line? To say I had 25 and 25, it's tough. That's tough. You should have got 30.

Starting point is 01:04:38 No, that's tough to say it. Just be like, yeah, I had 25 and 25. Yeah, that's tough. But Rudy and Cat. He should be doing that on the daily. Yes, I need that It's just like big singoon when he had the big game and then the next game he had like 13 boards like bro. I need 20 boards every game Don't be out here It's that's it's harder now to get a lot of boards from one single guy

Starting point is 01:05:06 because the floor is so spread and everybody's moving. Back when Dennis Rodman and him were getting boards, that's all. They're under the basket the whole time. You can go get it, though. Just go get the board. Just go get it. But they're playing from the three-point line.

Starting point is 01:05:18 It don't matter. Just go back and get the board. So, okay. If you're not contesting the shot, if your man ain't always shooting the three, you can go back and get the board. You're the big man. You're the biggest dude on the court. That's what AD was doing. He was going

Starting point is 01:05:32 back to get the boards. But that shit going all over the place now because everybody's shooting threes. It was layups and layups and 15-footers. Like, now that shit going all over the place. When you look at Dennis Rodman, most of his rebounds is here in this little under the... Now, you chasing to the three-point line

Starting point is 01:05:48 and shit like that, so... And half these niggas ain't missing. Jared Allen and Rudy Gobert do the same shit. They go back and get that board. Them two niggas that gonna get you a double-double every night, they gonna go down there and get the board. That's what I'm just saying about AD. Go back and get the board.

Starting point is 01:06:01 Who's leading the league in rebounds right now? What's the highest for the rebounds right now? It would probably be Sabonis, maybe. Sabonis. It would be Sabonis. Sabonis do it, too. He'd go back and get the board every time. But because most of his stuff is like...

Starting point is 01:06:15 Sabonis, third turn, we're 5. 5.5. Gobert, 12.9. With Fox hitting the lane, him posting up like it's easier. But he getting 20s. He getting 20s. He getting 20. Like, the last three, four games, he been at 20. I feel like somebody could get, like, 15 rebounds a game.

Starting point is 01:06:29 A game? Like, 15, yeah. I mean. Andre Drummond, if he started and played on the team, he'd get you 18. I think Wimby got a chance to at least average, I mean, if, I don't want to say 20 rebounds. Because he's going at a three-point line most of the time. Yeah, he's too far away. Remember, he's so, like, if he's challenging threes and stuff like that

Starting point is 01:06:46 He's not near that rim, but that's a couple somebody like Lopez should because the motherfucker don't he don't move no boards He gets no Jaron Jackson jr. Gets no boards, bro Pisses me off. I bet on this man against seven boards. He got me two. We don't bet it under dog fantasy. Well Really do pickups. We merely do pickups. High Lord. High Lord. Do not mess up my bet. Today they started, baby.

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Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah, and North Carolina is full betting. Oh, shit. So we still fantasy here in California. Shout out to Underdog Fantasy expanding. We still pick'em here. Expanding their reach across the globe. North Carolina. North Carolina, come on and raise up. They let the rains off y'all.

Starting point is 01:07:42 Shout out Petey Pablo. Shout out Lulu, Soul Food in Charlotte. Okay. Just out there. Where? Lulu's Soul Food in Charlotte. I was out there. Sorry.

Starting point is 01:07:52 Okay, Lulu's. Okay, Lulu's. Thank you, Lulu. All right, let's keep it moving. So LeBron was out for the win against the Bucks, but was spotted hanging out with Lakers Governor Jeannie Buss and Linda Rambis had the internet going nuts. LeBron, very polite, respectable, legs crossed.

Starting point is 01:08:08 I believe he wished them a happy International Women's Day, and they were very appreciative. You can read his lips. That's what he said. Thank you, LeBron. Just want to tell y'all, happy International Women's Day. Let me voice over. Let me do the voice over of this whole conversation.

Starting point is 01:08:21 By the way, I'm looking for that extension, Jeannie. You got to come pick up. Throw two more on them things. Hey, listen, you're going to take your hand off my arm now. You know my wife watching now. So,

Starting point is 01:08:32 the clip has some hating, other praising LeBron for maintaining his composure. Are people trying to make a big deal out of this video? Gil, you're not as active

Starting point is 01:08:41 on the internet as you used to be, but you probably never had two white girls on your arm before. I just host Gil's... It's a big fucking deal. Talk about it. Talk about it.

Starting point is 01:08:52 It's a big fucking deal. Talk about it. Especially when they rich. Talk about it. You got two rich white girls on your arm, nigga. Let me tell you something about rich white women on your arm. Talk about it. Tell you something, nigga.

Starting point is 01:09:04 You made it when you got two rich white women on your arm, nigga. Talk about it. Tell you something, nigga, you made it when you got two wrist-white women on your arm, nigga. Talk about it. Fuck y'all talking about. Shit, he didn't lose a beat. Shit. I don't care what nobody say. Who was it? Lakers governor

Starting point is 01:09:21 Jeannie Buss. Jeannie Buss, right? Who owns the team? Lakers governor Jeannie Buss. Okayannie Buss, right? Who owns the team? Lakers governor Jeannie Buss. Okay, so, hey, so you know that statue, that statue we talking about, and that's, he's talking to the one who writes the check. Mm-hmm. Two for 120, baby. Giggling, giggling and sniggling, that's all I'm doing. My wife understands.

Starting point is 01:09:41 Check writer right here. Mm-hmm. The other one is Kurt Ramsey's wife, right? Yeah. So uh watch out so um back up so uh that statue right you know I'm thinking about look 20 you know 23 of them two three like that's your money that's remember I always said that I want to I want to have the relationship with the person who writes my check yeah yeah like that's this these are the these are the owners and the person

Starting point is 01:10:05 who makes the decision. These are decision makers. Rob Palenka, I don't know where he was, but he's not important at this point in time. There was not a C. These two.

Starting point is 01:10:15 There was not a C reserved for Rob Palenka. Yeah, like, come on. Like, this is... Did y'all watch He Got Game? Yeah. Y'all remember the scene

Starting point is 01:10:23 in He Got Game? Yeah, Jesus, when he went on his visit? The assistant coach. Okay, okay. That's when you throw in, bring Bronny, too. Y'all, two for 120, a statue and Bronny, and we good. I'm done. I'm done.

Starting point is 01:10:38 Wait, is she still with Phil? No. Jay Moore, former comedian, you might remember from Jerry Maguire. Bob Sugar. Bob Sugar she Bob sugar. Yes. She with Phil No, I'm just saying like even with Phil. This is the owner Y'all trying to secure bags or not or not. This is the owner How you doing? What's happening statute contract? She's the one who writes the check. So you what he's supposed to mad dog her Well, I mean, did you see the way she did you see the way something about it?

Starting point is 01:11:07 It's just this is the owner you see the way she put her head on the shoulders on the bronze shoulder But she put her head they said, uh Deals done. Yeah, it was done. That was Randy doesn't have rambus. I've cut the very influential in Lakers organization I'm just cut the check All right. Well, let's move on if we can. So, Luka Doncic been cooking on the offensive side of the ball. Since his birthday on February 28th, Luka has dropped an NBA record, six straight 30-point triple doubles.

Starting point is 01:11:37 Dills, that's that impressive, not impressive? How many? Six straight 30-point triple doubles. Damn. Shit. When Westbrook did five, did anybody give him a congratulations? Yes, he won the MVP. I'm just saying, was it a big deal, though?

Starting point is 01:11:52 Yes. When he did it. Yes. Because he was at five. Luka just got it with six, so that's why I'm okay. Yeah. It was a different time, though, good as you know. Okay, okay. We've been fighting.

Starting point is 01:12:02 So, Luka's also in the midst of an NBA record five straight 35-point triple doubles, man. Mavs are 3-3 in their last six games, though. So, should there be an argument that Luka Doncic should be MVP if we remove team success from the equation? Why? Who are the candidates? SGA, Joker. Why? Who are the candidates? SGA, Joker, and Luca. Tatum.

Starting point is 01:12:30 Luca Tatum. Tatum. I don't know if Luca's three anymore. I think he's four or five. He's back. But that's anybody. Now, we can't... The reason I don't want to even have that discussion because one, we don't know the criteria. I think Shaq said

Starting point is 01:12:47 that he doesn't even know, because he was like, when I was playing, I'm trying to figure out how I have one MVP and Kobe has one MVP. Makes no sense. So what is the criteria? The criteria of what an MVP is, is not public. So people can really actually understand how do you win the MVP, right? So for us to sit here and say, should he win it, there's a bunch of people in history, Will Chamberlain, who was doing stuff like this, so the fact that we're gonna consider it now, no thank you. When Kobe was doing what Kobe was doing, he didn't win the MVP. You look at Will Chamberlain's stats and look at how many MVPs he has versus the stat he has, then no. So I don't even want to even consider even having

Starting point is 01:13:30 this conversation about Luka and if winning wasn't involved. If winning wasn't involved, the MVPs would look different across the board. Because when Michael Jordan had 37, he would have had an MVP. Shit, damn it, every year Michael Jordan led the league in scoring and dominated the score. So he would have had it. 15 years, shit, he would have had at MVP that shit damn every year Michael Jordan led the league of scoring and was Dominic is work So he would have had in 15 years shit. He would have had at least 12 MVP Yeah, so I don't even want to have a discussion about this fantasy of Luka if we took away winning Because winning is involved. So no, he's not even considered Mm-hmm. So it's Joker fuck his stats. Like we said fuck everybody else stats. Yeah, I agree

Starting point is 01:14:03 I'm agree with that. No, it's that man You agree because I want to give it as GA but I still think that their team so young and he's still on the rise Even though he's playing well enough to be considered I'm gonna go Joker Tatum SGA Luca Luca fo I mean, this is a regular season award We've seen the success of the Thunder had did any of you anticipate the thunder being this good this season no and that's why he's my mvp because joker is champion his team is supposed to be good um boston was second last year one before that so we know their top three we know what tatum does so yes he's supposed to be um Giannis going into that, yeah, he was going to be

Starting point is 01:14:48 top three. Same thing with Embiid, right? The fact that Shea has done well himself and he has his team in position to be one, two, or three, I don't know what the criteria of an MVP is, but he has to be able to check all the boards because you didn't expect this from him. Yeah, no other all-stars on the roster. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and for Shea, I think the last two years has been what? Biggs?

Starting point is 01:15:19 He's a guard. He's a guard. MVP needs a guard. The NBA needs to market a guard. He has the swag. He has, you know, everything with it. He has everything that the NBA wants. And you got someone who will cherish this.

Starting point is 01:15:33 He will market it. You're going to see him celebrated. You're going to see him, right? You're going to see him and Drake doing something with this trophy. So you're going to get a lot of publicity if he wins this MVP. You know who he reminds me of, though? AI, when he was going through his MVP race, being the only small guard, with all those other bigger names, bigger players, with a team that is not as talented.

Starting point is 01:15:56 No all-stars, nothing else on it. No facts. He's carrying that team. Remember AI in the East during that time carried them to, what, number one, number two? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I think Says carrying that look and he he actually has that skill set It's more like Russ. Yeah, yeah, yeah He's definitely like a I am be piece different like it's more it's more like rustling rustling his yeah

Starting point is 01:16:17 It was a quiet like it was like it's why I ever said AI is just like like AI is like but at least at least like Russ has Steven Adams. That was you know Yeah, but he get a rustic Even Adam When I am I you got somebody to throw it to get him triple doubles and shit But that but think about that for Russell to win at MVP. Look what he had to do. What right versus a big right who really ain't no triple-double. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:16:49 Right? The only thing that sets you apart is his assists. At this point, it's no different than when Embiid or last year's MVP race. Whoever you gave it to, it was justifiable. Right. Right? If you would've gave it to Giannis, his team was number one, he was doing what he did, that was justifiable.

Starting point is 01:17:07 I don't think anybody really would have argued whoever won it. I think the problem really was that the narrative was pushed away from Jokic last year. Like when Keidra Perkins went on TV and then publicly pushed a candidate and is like, no, you can't do that. Yeah, you can't do that. Let let let let the world figure out who it is because it was Joker Joker Joker Then you come out and make the statement and make it blank and then it just took a hard turn for him beating We like no, what does it look like for Giannis? 31 a game 13 shooting 66 from the field to Doc fucked that up. The first person

Starting point is 01:17:45 to ever... He gonna keep saying Doc fucked that up. He averaging, what, five assists, too? Yeah, Doc fucked that up, though. Yeah, but Giannis is in there. Doc fucked that up, though. I mean... And they numbered, they numbered what? Number two. Number two, too. They backed to number two. So why wouldn't Giannis be, like, number two on the list?

Starting point is 01:18:01 Like, we not even thinking about Giannis. But, like, the Bucs... He should be. Because the about Giannis. But like, but... In the race, he should be. Because the Bucs is like... They're 31-11 and 7. The Bucs is like eight games back from two, though. Like, they're far. They're underachieving.

Starting point is 01:18:10 No, no, no. It's like anything in life, man. Yeah. When you're consistent at something, no one respects it. Right? No one respects

Starting point is 01:18:18 the consistency of it. Like, when we think about Jordan, and he lost to Barkley one year and... Carmelone. And Carmelone one year

Starting point is 01:18:25 and you're like, how? Because they came out of they did something. Their plus minus was a little bit higher than Jordan's even though Jordan's team was great. He was playing great. They found a way to give it to someone else. People hate greatness. People hate consistent.

Starting point is 01:18:42 For you to win an MVP is basically you gotta win it here and then do something drastic this year and if you want to get it the third year you got to do something really important drop down to mediocre to go back to the top it's crazy it's like a hate and love with consistency I feel like sometimes like people they hate it because they can't do it consistent but then they love it because it's like wow like they have made so it's like just love it Like like just fucking love it. Like just be like in your life. I mean, you know LeBron. I just just can't get I'm tired of

Starting point is 01:19:17 The Warriors win everybody was tired of that she's like yo y'all cheat and at some point like you're cheating So they wouldn't MJ with MJ. There's no media then. But when MJ was winning and doing all that, they was tired of it. They want to see somebody else win. Let's talk about voter fatigue, but for you guys as players, just the ability to consistently do that year after year, we as fans watch and just think,

Starting point is 01:19:38 oh, it's easy for Giannis to go average 30 and 11. No. No. That's every game. You got to bring it. You're bringing it because everyone's figured you out You're free that we figure what you can do and you're still doing it which makes it harder right, so the fact that Yannis yoga just still doing exactly what they've been doing the whole time is still

Starting point is 01:20:00 Still it's it's it's easier. It's easier to ball when no one knows you Yeah, when the scout report is sitting on you and you're still putting up those numbers It's still MVP But see that's what I always looked at when you look at Brian numbers and you look at KD numbers the consistency between the two Yeah, and then we look at the league now how easy the league is and those numbers don't go up Mm-hmm. That's where i get upset because those numbers are still consistent from the brawn we've seen in miami the kd we've seen in okc kd we see right now it's 28 a game right i want to see the 32 a game kd because we've never seen that kd i want to see

Starting point is 01:20:42 the 30 10 and 10 brawn for the whole season we never seen that brawn. I want to see the 30, 10, and 10 Brian for the whole season. We never seen that Brian. But we seen Russell do it. We done seen Joker do it. Now we seeing Luka do it. So for me, I have and hold higher standards for such players that people say, oh, you hate him. What's all this hate for?

Starting point is 01:20:59 It's like because I see a certain level of greatness for guys who don't reach it because they're comfortable being consistent. But that's a jaded mindset, and here's why. If you take LeBron at 22, 23 years old and put him right now, then what do you have? We don't know. No, we do know. Because the 40-year-old is averaging 25. It's the same conversation with A.I.

Starting point is 01:21:27 I'm talking about he wouldn't average 40. No, what I'm saying is you're telling a 40-year-old, you're telling a 38-year-old, a 37-year-old, their stats should be going up. They got to do more to sustain it. No, because the game is easier. They got to stretch more. They got to eat better.

Starting point is 01:21:44 No, the game is easier. Like LeBron more. They got to eat better. No, the game is easier. Like LeBron James wasn't going to the gym at 1 o'clock to prepare on his body when he was 20. But we watched that game last night. He just ran down court, ran past one, two guys, bump, and then score.

Starting point is 01:21:57 You could do that every single time. And then 10 years ago... Not your 39 years old. 10 years ago... How do you feel right now? You can't do... But wait. You can't do what you did when you was 20.

Starting point is 01:22:06 So what do you have to do? But if I prepared my body to do it, I could. Yes. So he spends a million dollars a year on his body so that he can do what he's doing right now. So what I'm saying is if LeBron at 10 years ago can catch the ball off the rim, run past everybody and dunk that bitch. Yeah. Every single time. He could do it if he wanted to.

Starting point is 01:22:25 Every single time. But he manages the game the way he can be consistent. So when you can manage the game and say, I can score 27 a game, get seven boards, seven assists, and that's the impact that I can have inside of harnessing my game and putting it in this box. Every night, that's a consistent thing that you guys cannot denounce You guys can't look at me and say I'm not the best because my numbers are consistent, but that's numbers Those are the numbers that we talk about so I say if those numbers don't go up

Starting point is 01:22:54 For me and my standard that I hold for a guy like that it gotta go up for KD 2728 a game we know you the easy money sniper every fucking year. I need those numbers to go up because Your consistency is there. They can't physically their physics. Yeah, not taking on physical. Okay the game change. He not sweating He not tired listen. I ain't tired like no no no no Listen, I was in the guy was ending. I was in the NBA when Jordan came back right I was in the NBA when Jordan came back. Right? Now, when people say, what would Jordan average in today's game?

Starting point is 01:23:36 Understand this. And this is why I'm like, his greatness is great. It's hard to question his greatness. No matter what we talk about, we're done with the 90s, we're done with the 80s. This is just a real fact. When Jordan came back in 2001, which is considered the hardest defense, the toughest defense. He is 38, 39 38 39 39 40 years old He he did average fucking 20

Starting point is 01:24:20 That year them years the guards were more athletic than he ever seen the guards more athletic the game was physical The game was bigger faster at That age he did average 20 if We gave him back his speed From his 90s game and we gave him his jumping ability from his 90s game What would he haveaged in that era? What I'm saying, if he's averaged 20 and you say, all right, we know you only have a 30-inch vertical.

Starting point is 01:24:51 Let's give you back your 48-inch vertical. Let's give you back all your fast twitch muscles, all your explosion for this era. What does he average? Does he average 30 fucking 5 then? But that's what I'm saying. Like, I can see it. Like, okay, even the moves he's doing, it's a little slower, right?

Starting point is 01:25:13 He's still getting his shot off. He still can't block the fadeaway. When you got guys that's 44-inch vertical, which he didn't see in his era, guys that are 6'8", 6'9", trying to block it, they didn't block it right you got a sean marion you got fast twitch muscles that he didn't see in the early 2000s and he averaged

Starting point is 01:25:31 20 against these guys you have guards like me that he didn't he's sitting in front of that he didn't have in his era and he averaged 20 with ease with no workout with no nothing i guarantee you if you gave him back all his attributes, he would have barbecued the fuck out of us with 35 a game. But did those numbers go up? Who? Jordans.

Starting point is 01:25:52 Over time. No. It didn't? No. It didn't average 37 at one point? Early. I'm just talking about old Jordans. He's talking about the last season.

Starting point is 01:26:01 No, I understand what you're saying. When he was 23, yes. I'm just asking. Did they go up when he was 35? No, they went down. No, of course. But look, that's what you're saying. When he was 23, yes. I'm just asking. Did they go up when he was 35? No, they went down. No, of course. But look, that's what I'm saying. Everybody's numbers went up.

Starting point is 01:26:09 Hold on. No, no, no, no. You're not going to just come in the middle of a conversation and you ain't even hear it. I was listening to everything you were saying. The last three minutes.

Starting point is 01:26:14 I was listening to everything you were saying. No, my point from the beginning was at some point the numbers went up for everybody who was great. Those two guys particularly. And I'm not saying about the age. I'm just saying at some point. Like Kobe went to 35, Jordan went to 36, 37.

Starting point is 01:26:31 Even James Harden went up to 36. It went up, it went up. So LeBron has been here the whole time because we know we can't say nothing about this consistency. It's consistent. So I'm saying, why haven't you never taken it to this level where we can say, look, this is the years where he went ham. He went crazy. Because I think him being consistent is the reason why he got to 40,000.

Starting point is 01:26:52 It's comfortable. Okay, one. Because the game that easy when you can get it. It's like when you know you can score three buckets a quarter that gives you 24 points a game. Three buckets a quarter. I know I can do that. I know I'm going to get these numbers. I don't got to worry about nothing else. Give me three rebounds a quarter i know i can do that i know i'm gonna get these numbers i don't gotta

Starting point is 01:27:06 worry about nothing else give me three rebounds a quarter boom give me two assists a quarter this is the method of being an offensive player knowing you can get these stats luca out there doing it every night i know how to do this every single night okay i think you're missing winning too yeah i must say so when jordan averaged 37 35, what did his team look like versus when he started winning? When he started winning and got better players, his numbers went down. So on his last championship, averaging 28,

Starting point is 01:27:34 the year before that 29, the year before that 30, back from when he was averaging 37 and 35, his team was trash. When James Harden averaged 36, his team was trash. When Kobe averaged, his team was trash. When did LeBron have a trash team to actually even put those numbers in? The last three years. He had an Anthony Davis on his team.

Starting point is 01:27:51 The last three years. He had an Anthony Davis on his team. The last three years. When did Jordan average? Name the second best player when Jordan averaged 37 and 35. Say it again? Name the second best player. What year was it?

Starting point is 01:28:06 90, was it 96? Oh, 86, 87. Who was the best player on that team? And who was the best player in the next year? You said 86, 87? Yeah. When Jordan was in the 88 year, who was the best player? In the league?

Starting point is 01:28:21 Yeah. Isaiah and Bird. No, no, on his team for him to pass the? Yeah. Isaiah and Bird. No, no, on his team for him to pass the ball to. Orlando Woolridge. Y'all can say it. Who the fuck is that? I know, right? Nobody knows.

Starting point is 01:28:36 If you know that, if you know that, if you know that. Everybody sit down and be like, who the fuck is that? They don't know basketball. Charles Oakley, John Paxson. Charles Oakley and John Paxson when he averaged those are the Best players on the team when Kobe average His 30 who was the best player 30 times what year was that Chris memes? Is that what the best plenty? No, Chris stop it. Who was the best new topic? What year was it? Stop code when I was Kobe

Starting point is 01:29:00 I'm 506. Oh five when Kobe average 35 who you who's the best player was in the more on that team off the bench Kobe when that was Kobe 05 06 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 05 0 Chris Mim. Who's on the team? Are you serious right now? You know this, man. You put on this big cap. I want to finish. I will stand, man. Kobe averaged 35.4. Lamar Odom averaged 15. Smush Parker averaged 12. Chris Mim averaged 10. Lamar Odom was the second best player. So Lamar Odom was the second best player. And he's a killer. Let's not gloss over that. He is an

Starting point is 01:29:41 Anthony Davis? No, no, no. What? No, no, no. I mean... He was an Anthony Davis? Anthony Davis playing back no. What? No, no, no. He was an Anthony Davis? Anthony Davis playing back then would be Lamar Odom. What? He would be a similar number. Lamar Odom ain't even a what's-his-name Love. He ain't even a Kevin Love. He's not even a Kevin Love.

Starting point is 01:29:58 Listen, listen. Anthony Davis playing in 2006 is not better than Lamar Odom. Lamar Odom is not even better than Kevin. Love. He's way better than Kevin Love how many all-stars that uh Lamar Odom me gonna bring up stats. It's gonna be zero Who's better it'll be zero and only zero who's better? I will I will just say he's got better than that. So you saying who got you what you gonna do accolades who? accolades who we didn't we're not talking about accolades We're not talking about player Lamar over Kevin love now who got the better accolades having all stars zero So that means he's a all-zero. How many all NBA's zero? Okay, zero

Starting point is 01:30:38 How many teams in the Marlton have on his own none? Okay, how many the Kevin love have one one? Okay. Okay. That's where he got, that's where he became a what? That's where he got a name for himself? He was the only player on that team. He got to shoot all the balls. Who was the best player? Stop it. So if Lamar Odom was never the best player, how can you even put him in the category?

Starting point is 01:30:59 I just want LeBron to take his numbers up. How can even you compare him to anybody who was the best player? If you was never good enough to be an option one, I don't even want to have a conversation. He was good enough. When? Show me. What year? Any year. What do you mean? Show me. What year was he the best player?

Starting point is 01:31:15 Lamar Odom was good enough to be that. If you're good enough, then you're going to be that. He was an asset that was a tradable piece to go to other teams that had good players. I'm sorry. Kevin Love, what happened when Kevin Love left Minnesota? Was he ever the man on his team again? No.

Starting point is 01:31:31 No. But he was an all-star. Because he was playing in Minnesota where there was nobody. And they was trash. But he was behind. He trashed. But he was behind LeBron James. He trashed.

Starting point is 01:31:39 He was behind LeBron James and still made an all-star. Because he's playing with LeBron James. Then he came a third option and still made the all-star. Because he's playing with LeBron James. Then he came a third option and still made the all-star. Kevin Love is raised out. Kevin Love is raised out with a jump shot. Hold on. Lamar Odom was the second best player with Kobe Bryant. The third best player was not even a basketball player.

Starting point is 01:32:00 And he still couldn't make an all-star game. He wasn't a basketball player? You get the fuck out of here. Who? Who wasn't a basketball player? That means Lamar Odom didn't have to pass the ball to nobody. And he couldn't make an all-star game he wasn't a you get the fuck out of here who who wasn't a that means lamar odom didn't have to pass the ball to nobody and he couldn't make an all-star game really why did he need to make an all-star game to be a good player man he's he's listen lamar odom is that guy man yeah yeah he's a good fucking guy he's a good but don't because he didn't make because he didn't make the list from all these other we talked about the media talk all this no we know so you're talking

Starting point is 01:32:27 About accolades when niggas don't get certain accolades based on what? Them not being good enough No, that's not the fucking case you being a second best player not the fuck you've been a second best player It's not fucking granted. Were you ever an all-star? No were you good enough to be were you the number one option? Are you good? Were you good at a number one option? Were you good? Were you good? You're the number one option. Were you okay? Were you good enough? What's out? You got you were good enough, right? Yeah That's all yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You good enough. He got hurt. Yeah, right. You were good enough You we all can say see see what happens see what happened when I got this nigga So if you were ever put in a situation to become an all-star you could have yeah

Starting point is 01:33:07 Lamar Odom was never put in that situation Why didn't you become an all-star because I broke my foot you broke your foot. That's where my kill is What foot did Lamar Odom but not listen? That's not what? Hey, when did you break your foot? I broke my foot, but what you're a Well my second year in the league. I broke my foot. I was leading the team in scoring, assists, and rebounds. Second year? Okay. My second year, yep.

Starting point is 01:33:29 And then I broke my foot, and then my last year in Detroit, I tore my Achilles two or three weeks before All-Star break. That was what, your sixth, seventh season? No. Sixth, seventh season? Yeah. So in between that time, you could have been an All-Star. But you were still good, right?

Starting point is 01:33:43 Yeah. You were still good, but you didn't make the team. But I was the number one, like you said, I was the number one option, though. I'm just saying, when niggas are good,

Starting point is 01:33:51 it doesn't mean because they didn't make X, Y, Z that they're not good. Lamar Odom was good. Man, they putting third options on the NBA all-star. And you telling me the second option can't make it?

Starting point is 01:34:01 His competition is Chris Mills and Smush Parker. Kyle Korver with an all-star. Smush Parker and Mills. And you can't make it. His competition is Chris Mills and Smush Parker and Smush Parker and Mills and you can't beat Millsap. Millsap was an all-star wasn't he? Yes. These are guys they're not better than Lamar Odom. Obviously they are. No they're not.

Starting point is 01:34:18 It's just obviously the voting for all-star just don't mean that they're voting for the best players. 35. And you had a problem with it. You had a problem with the voting system when they're voting in guys based on team success and not how good you are. I think that would prove my point. Your team, sorry, you averaged 15.

Starting point is 01:34:35 Your team sucks. And you averaged 15. My team sucked. We're not talking about 15 on a good team. My team sucked. You came off the bench. My team sucked. You came off.

Starting point is 01:34:48 I was 15. Thank you. I was good. Now think about what you're saying. I was good. What option were you? I was second. No, what option were you on the team?

Starting point is 01:34:56 I was the number two option. Coming off the bench. You was the number two option. Coming off the bench. Number two option. So who was on the team? Me, Al Jefferson, Randy Foy, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Marco Yaris, whoever you want to name. You came off the bench.

Starting point is 01:35:13 Came off the bench. I was coming off the bench behind Kurt Snyder and Corey Brewer. So you came off the bench. Number two option. You came off the bench and averaged 16 off the bench. So you put more production in the game off the bench than someone who's starting yes that's what's called stupid coaching case closed stupid coach case closed why he not starting case closed prove my point why he not starting i knew your

Starting point is 01:35:40 bragging for yourself was going to diminish what's your point but what But what's your point? How can you just say prove your point? What point are you making? My point is that a number two option who's starting next to Kobe Bryant with nobody behind him, only average 15, and you can come off the bench for your team and average the same amount of points. And we're both not all-stars. And we're both good. Tell me what your point is again. You came off the bench and averaged the same amount as a guy you're promoting who should have been good.

Starting point is 01:36:16 He was good. He started. But what's the point? We can find 100 bench players that come in and do exactly what he did. And he was the number two option behind Kobe Bryant. And what's the point? Because I know Paul Gasol was the second option when he came in, and he was fucking all-star in all NBA.

Starting point is 01:36:34 And he got his jersey retired. So all second options are supposed to be all-stars. That's what you're saying? If they're good. Okay. So we're not going to go down that rabbit hole trying trying to list all the second options who work who were not all-stars We're not gonna go down that rabbit hole as we be here all day you came off the we'll be here all day talking about Hey, man, you were the second option. Why wasn't you an all-star? Oh because I wasn't good enough. You came off the bench, right?

Starting point is 01:37:01 I'm pretty sure if you were starting and your team was doing this, eventually I would have averaged 25 points a game. Yes. You would average 25 points a game. Thank you. Because I didn't have a Kobe Bryant on my team. He's averaging 35. Why is he averaging 35? Because of the second option.

Starting point is 01:37:20 Because he's fucking Kobe Bryant. Because he's fucking Kobe Bryant. The second option is not a second option. What? That's why when a The second option is not a second option. What? Yo, what position? Easy. That's why when a real second option came, they put his ass to the bench. Didn't they?

Starting point is 01:37:31 Did they? But who? When? They came off the bench and got six men of the year. Yeah, you got six men of the year because he was playing like a... Right now, hold on. Let me just... Yo, what position is Lamar Odom?

Starting point is 01:37:43 Like, what position would you have him in? Point forward. So, shooting, like... One through four. One through four? Yeah, I'm just, depending on how you want to utilize him. Mm. A little, and some five occasionally, if necessary.

Starting point is 01:37:55 See, when he go to his phone... Yeah, just, you know... When you go to his phone, you know you got him. You know you got him! No, no, I just... Got him! No, I go to my phone just to... That's that, that yeah that's me.

Starting point is 01:38:06 I'm head up. I'm head up. I'm head up with this dude. I don't gotta go to my phone. Second option average 14, 15, 14, 11 as the second option. Let's keep this

Starting point is 01:38:24 thing moving. Him's what's second. Him and Draymond Green like the same? Yeah. Damn, let's keep this thing moving. No, I'm just saying, you said point forward, right? Mm-hmm. So he's like... Yeah. So let's move on.

Starting point is 01:38:37 We got to... Yep, say it again. Because you say he's a point forward, and Draymond Green played one through four. Yeah. So he's like a Draymond Green. Yep, without a Klay and a KD at the time. And without the all-star appearances. Without the KD and the...

Starting point is 01:38:49 And the all-star appearances. So you take off KD... Because apparently Draymond's an all-star, right? So you take off KD and Klay. That was Draymond. Same guy. Same guy. Look how many shots is open.

Starting point is 01:39:00 Is Draymond good? You take off KD and Klay, and it's just Curry. Is Draymond better than Lamar Oten? As a player? As a one-on-one player? No. I didn't say one-on-one. I said he's better. As far as just going out there. Lamar Odom better than Draymond Green? No.

Starting point is 01:39:18 That nigga Lamar Odom is cold, man. Shit. You're a Hooper, right? You're a Hooper. That's blasphemy to even think in face and shit like that. Draymond Green better than Lamar Odom? I said no. You said yes. I just said no. That's why I said he don't listen. He don't listen

Starting point is 01:39:35 at all. That's why he contradicts himself because all he does is hear something and then stop thinking. Let's keep this thing moving and grooving back to more positive conversation we got to show some love uh to our very own lexi brown who was out there cooking in athletes unlimited so in her last three games she's put up 22 27 and 22 and was named game v game mvp this weekend for theth piece she dropped going six for nine from three.

Starting point is 01:40:08 Lexi, we see you out there doing your thing. You'll be back on the couch soon. That's tough. We got to go to some games this year. No invite.

Starting point is 01:40:15 No invite. No invite. No Sparks invite. She can invite us. Man, we could definitely sit courtside there. She said we got to use the SeatGeek plug.

Starting point is 01:40:25 We gotta use SeatGeek promo if we want to attend Sparks again. That's one ticket I know we for sure could get

Starting point is 01:40:31 on the floor. I'm with it. I'm with it. I'm with it too. I'm with that. I'm going there like this. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:37 Applebee's, Applebee's, all day long. That's a special outfit for that. Oh my God. Yeah, special. Well, we look forward that. Oh, my God. Yeah, special. Well, we look forward to seeing you, Alexi.

Starting point is 01:40:49 We miss you. We'll see you soon back on this couch. So let's talk a little bit about this young generation. O has loved to talk about the 90s era of basketball, but the young heads have had enough. Recently, TikTok was ablaze with youngsters trying to expose the 90s and the former GOAT Michael Jordan. The hashtag, we done with the 90s, was trending.

Starting point is 01:41:09 Some of the claims, like MJ doesn't have a left hand, are erroneous. But one user by the name of BigBodyBallerBoy did a breakdown of the 1996 Sonics-Bulls finals game. I pulled up the 1996 NBA finals game one. 72 and 10 bulls supposedly best team of all time look at this shit bro right off rip we have the goat michael jordan hitting the side of the backboard with 17 seconds on the shot clock we literally clown russell westbrook for that and look at this shit all nba scotty pippen right Look what he's about to do. They don't even put a hand up. He air balls. Uncontested three.

Starting point is 01:41:49 Look at Luke Longley charging through the lane. LeBron's not doing that 50 times? And I don't want to hear shit about Gary Payton, nigga. Look at this pass from Gary Payton. Nigga, look at that pass from Gary Payton. And all this supposed great defense. Look at this shit, bro. Look at this shit.

Starting point is 01:42:10 The nigga doesn't even put a hand up. That's an all-NBA player. Look at the shot selection. He has Steve Kerr open at the three-point line. 17 seconds on the shot clock. Look at it. Nigga, look at this. This is Shaqton of full caliber.

Starting point is 01:42:28 Nigga, that was all the first quarter of the 96 NBA Finals. LeBron is the GOAT. LeBron is the GOAT. You know, all heads of young heads may not always see eye to eye on certain subjects, but... Yeah, you've been, you know, somewhat critical of the 90s era basketball. That's Gil's fault. Gil started that. No, I said the 80s. But yeah, you started all this trend shit. No, no.

Starting point is 01:42:50 The reason I do it because everybody who puts these guys in their situation... I actually never watch games. Right? They've never watched games. If you're an analyst and you're under the age of 90, don't tell me about Wilt Chamberlain's games and Bill Russell did this. Because you didn't watch actually how they played. Right. You're just going off of stats.

Starting point is 01:43:18 Right. You're not looking at the rules back then. You're not looking at, like, for instance, back then, all-star games. Right. 20 players made the all-star games right 20 players made the all-star game right there was only eight teams midway through the season they cut one whole team they usually just fucking just gone right so it for the most of the season, there was only 70 to 90 players in the league. 20 of them made the All-Star game. Today, there's only 24 All-Stars with 450 players.

Starting point is 01:43:56 20 players, 70 players. 20 made it. Shit, damn near. 40 starters, 20 made the All-Star game. Half the starting five of the NBA back then made the All-Star game. So when you're talking about, oh, you only made three, they made eight. If you didn't make the All-Star game, how trash were you? To be honest, let's just be honest, right?

Starting point is 01:44:19 It was easier. So I don't want to hear reporters talking about the game back then because you didn't fucking watch it. This let me know how the game was played in the 90s, even though I was a kid. Grant Hill went on an interview. I think he went on all the smoke. Grant Hill, he was a three-time All-Star, two-time all-NBA player. He's working out at UCLA against Kobe Bryant. Kobe averaged seven. This was after his rookie season, so something going into his next year. He was working out. He's watching Kobe do something he'd never seen before.

Starting point is 01:45:01 Skill development. Skill development. He said, I've never, ever skill development. Skill development. He said, I've never ever seen, this guy's been in the league and made three All-Stars and two All-NBA teams at this point. He said, I've never seen someone actually work on different skills. He said, at that point, all we did was just play games. We just played pick up, work on free throws.

Starting point is 01:45:22 We never actually sat and trained and worked on skilled stuff. He said, Kobe challenged me in a one-on-one match, and I said, that fucker averaged seven, he's fucking 19 years old, yeah, I'll play you. Three-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA. He said this was the hardest

Starting point is 01:45:40 thing he ever did in the summer, was playing this kid one-on-one. A 19-year-old, one-on-one. He said that was the hardest thing I ever did in the summer was playing this kid one-on-one. A 19-year-old one-on-one. He said, that was the hardest thing I ever did in the summer. That let me know everything I needed to know. The first person you ever seen work

Starting point is 01:45:56 on his talent was a 19-year-old Kobe Bryant. And you were three-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA player up until that time. So I mean all that Space Jam shit They was just going up there. They just went up in who it just who they just whooped for the summer Hey, my work and they didn't know they didn't work out. I have a problem with these dudes to get on the internet But they shirt off and shit

Starting point is 01:46:18 And we get it they phone in the bathroom And they just think they talk about some shit Because they go and look at the past games and pick up all the old shit that was some trash shit talk about the trash shit right I think we all have trash moments right yeah that weren't highlighted when we were coming up now you can go back and highlight and all these new niggas and come in here and talk about how trash the old times was right that's bullshit niggas you sitting in your house you don't play nothing you don't do nothing

Starting point is 01:46:46 You do nothing. So imagine us highlighting how the fact you don't do shit And you sit here and try to collect a little check a little $2 off your little Instagram monetization screen fuck you make it more than $2 They not making today not making more than $2 talking Them niggas not making $2. More than $2. They not making more than $2. Talking about the 90s and whatever. It's just like, motherfucker go break down my shit. Look how trashy it was and this and that. It's like, well, where are the highlights?

Starting point is 01:47:14 Where are the good parts? You ain't going to show the good part? I don't like showing highlights. But you're going to highlight the bad part and talk about the niggas that put it in work as trash. Yeah, it is a lot of that out here. It's a lot of that. It is a lot of that. But that goes on. This is weak. No, no is a lot of that out here. It's a lot of that. It is a lot of that. But that goes on.

Starting point is 01:47:25 It's weak. No, no, no, no. It's weak. But it goes both ways, right? That's what I was going to highlight. It goes both ways. You show the highlights, and they look good,

Starting point is 01:47:34 and you show the bad shit. That was always my argument. When you're trying to make an argument for your player, just make your argument for your player. Yes. Because what you're doing is

Starting point is 01:47:43 you're trying to prove how this person sucks. So you're trying to prove how this person sucks So you're gonna find all the information that makes him bad to prove your point Yeah, prove your point by just talking about who you like versus trying to figure out what we don't like about it So both sides of it, right? Yeah, we can not even both sides just show this I love you that you like Kobe just show all Kobe stuff. Don't show me Michael Jordan stuff. Don't show me LeBron doing this Don't show no stats about these just prove your point on him. Let this person prove his point on his guy That's it. But if you want to say older 90s suck

Starting point is 01:48:16 All you're gonna do is just find a whole bunch of bricks in this and Funny I mean like even with Jordan, right? When they show that, oh, Jordan didn't go left hand, right? Yeah. Everyone's going to show all the stuff that says he couldn't go left. Then all the people who want to show, he did dominate left. I can tell you this. Every highlight you're going to show that him dominating his left is going to be after Isaiah Thomas talked.

Starting point is 01:48:44 Yeah, for sure. Right? He worked on it. It's going to be, yeah, he worked on it going probably 92, 93, 94, 95. Those are highlights you're going to show he's going left. So it's all narrated in the way you want to talk. Obviously, that was the game plan back when Isaiah was playing. He didn't go left very well, right?

Starting point is 01:49:02 Most of his jumpers went right. Most of his drives went right right They couldn't stop him going right obviously we're pushing him to his left hand that was their advantage over him Obviously he cleaned that shit up. Yep. Well, but that's like anything It's like comparing it to Nintendo on a ps5 though, right? Nintendo was the shit back then. And we loved it. We loved it. My Tyson punch-out. Boop, boop. From what we had then, the game has evolved. I think that's the thing. Like, so I don't see either side.

Starting point is 01:49:29 Like, again, I saw the comedy element of it while we brought it to the table. It is nice that young kids are going back and watching those games, but that's just really a testament to the game evolving. The game that it is now isn't what it was in the 90s. But that was our era. It was nostalgia. We go back and look at it. Same way we used to shit on our parents' era.

Starting point is 01:49:44 You try to compare the 60s, 70s, and 80s like you've done, Gil, to further generations. That's the goal. Everyone says this. Even something like this, right? I said, someone says, all right, can you make an argument? It was like, who do you think is the best shooting guard? I was like, Michael Jordan, then Kobe. And they said this, make an argument for Kobe's the best shooting guard. I

Starting point is 01:50:06 said, okay, uh Kobe played against the most talented shooting guards in NBA history, right? So if we say who's the top 10 shooting guards ever right? Jordan only played against In the top 10, a young Kobe and a young Allen Iverson. That's it. Everybody else, right?

Starting point is 01:50:32 Cole played against Jordan. He played against AI. He played against Dwayne Wade. He played against Ray Allen. He played against James Harden. Right, so he played against the most talented shooting guards the game has ever seen. Jordan's competition would have been Drexler, who won't be top ten. Mitch Richmond.

Starting point is 01:50:50 Mitch Richmond, who won't be top ten. Reggie Miller. Reggie Miller is today's clay, right? And he won't even be top ten. So that would be the argument that Kobe Bryant played against. We talk about the numbers, but who did they play against? Who was the competition? Who did he have to guard?

Starting point is 01:51:04 Who guarded him? Where are those guys in history since since it's been 30 years where are they yeah right so the fact that that those guys aren't considered top their legacy didn't didn't last right then that would be the argument but it's's hard, man. It's really hard to really do things like this because you can only play against the talent that you played against, right? It's like comparing the music. Best rappers. Rappers from then compared to rappers now.

Starting point is 01:51:37 We always considered our top... Everybody's top five got Biggie, Jay-Z, Nas, Tupac. Somebody's got... These guys all knew each other. These guys all were good friends between the top four. So you look at all the new guys, you say, yeah, they rap better. Why? Because the rap game evolved. The wordplay evolved. The production evolved. Just like Handel has evolved. The shooting range has evolved. The skill set for the bigs have evolved. So the game is going to change,

Starting point is 01:52:07 but it don't take away the bullshit. Niggas shooting the ball on the side of the backboard. Niggas doing the Shaqton the Fool shit. It's still bullshit in the game. That's been happening since the beginning of the game. So you can't be like, alright, these niggas ain't trash too. So a lot of these new niggas is trash. To us.

Starting point is 01:52:24 And they play trash to us so then back then you compare it to back then it's like yeah michael jordan then was on some hot garbage shit when they did certain shit but you can't say that the game back then wasn't what it was to the people who was watching it we thought it was good and you said the lyrics today what you say with music yeah the lyrics of the lyrics no not nothing a lot of, the music? Yeah, the lyrics are, the lyrics, no, not the lyrics, I'm just saying the flow. Like the bars, everything is better. Today? Today than it was before.

Starting point is 01:52:50 I don't know. Cadence, all that. That 90s hip-hop is different. No, the substance was different. No, no, no, when did rap hit the scene, 80s? 70s, I think late 70s. Late 70s, yeah. Around the same time NBA did right?

Starting point is 01:53:07 right the current version of a Eighth night it was like a Seven hip hip hip hip hip hip did it look like no like ice tea in the way? No, the group before that the group that kind of starteding the gang in them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We celebrated. I mean, we celebrated 50 years. We're going to be technical George Clinton then. God damn it. Comic dog. African bombada. We celebrated 50 years of hip hop back in 2023, so 73 is credited.

Starting point is 01:53:35 So basically, it's like the NBA, right, where the first group was started. That is like the OG. Everybody judged it after that. Now, if you ask them, what do they think about the 80s rap, right? They will have a problem with the 80s rap, right? Because it came into like the drug and like, we didn't talk, we didn't rap about that.

Starting point is 01:53:53 We rapped about break dancing and having fun. These motherfuckers got angry, right? Same thing with the 90s. It became a whole nother, but the 90s basketball is the golden era for basketball. 90s music is the golden era because of the people. It's just like something about that 80s, 90s, where I don't know if it was technology. It was the first.

Starting point is 01:54:16 They were the first ones. It was the first generation of clean music that we never heard before. It wasn't clean. The golden era of basketball, we never seen this type of basketball before. It was the first with the golden era basketball We never seen this type of basketball before it was the 90s the 90s. I love the night, but that early 2000 like 2005 they were basket like that Music you know like that that hip-hop era was tough. I think Nelly was just talking about it on the thing

Starting point is 01:54:37 So the image like that was the hardest of hip-hop. Yeah, but the but that's I'm saying it's the hardest hip-hop for who him No for him. I mean, today, I mean, to them, today, it's kind of easy. Today, I think it's easier today. I mean, yes, it's more rappers, but... It's oversaturated. It's oversaturated, so it's... What I'm saying is, if you

Starting point is 01:54:57 Drake, you Drake and going against Kanye, um... That's it. That's it. The Future, when Future drops back, when he drops all these, like, you still got... It's only one person he's going against right now. Right now. It's just Ye.

Starting point is 01:55:10 J. Cole. J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar. J. Cole about to drop. J. Cole about to drop. That's what I'm saying. Like, somebody like Kendrick Lamar, right, who is considered one of the best lyricists, he's never going to beat a Drake in numbers.

Starting point is 01:55:22 No. So he can't even drop the same time if he wants to get his pure numbers out. Same thing if Drake dropping then Bad Bunny drops Bad Bunny's cleaning up all them numbers and they're not even the same category. So it's still competition. But we get to hear it from

Starting point is 01:55:37 different places versus the 90s. Yes. See that's what I'm saying. The early 2000s that was run to the CD store. Yes. Now they don't have to. That's so we don't see the same competition. Same thing with the NBA. They don't have to fight over views and all this stuff because like the 80s, right? 80s was there was only one game being played.

Starting point is 01:55:56 Right. Right. Yeah. Right? Two channels, motherfucker, is going to be Boston or Lakers. So if you wanted to be popularized, there was only two TV channels. No league, Pat. Yeah, there was no league.ized, there was only two TV channels. No big pass. Yeah, there was no league.

Starting point is 01:56:06 It's easier. The water down the views. You look at the comparison. They did it on Joe Budden Podcast recently. Drake is the biggest star. Right. J. Cole is the best rapper. And Kendrick is the best artist.

Starting point is 01:56:22 The artistry. What does that mean? As the art form, it's like he gives you a total body of work. Yeah. So that means he's the closest to the original. Yes, the embodiment of the game. So go back and you compare Mike, Kobe, and Bron.

Starting point is 01:56:37 Bron is the biggest star. The biggest star in NBA history. Then you got Michael Jordan is the best all-around Thing we've seen as far as the original. He's the original is me. Yeah, you got it Jordan is the biggest star every ever ever ever ever LeBron LeBron is gonna eclipse that because he broke all the accomplishments He's beat all the accomplishments Kobe Bryant is the is like J. Cole of it. He's the best rapper. He gives you all of the things that we embody

Starting point is 01:57:07 as far as the skill set of it. The skill set of it. And then you got Jordan. Jordan is the originator. Kobe is the skill set. And then LeBron is the star. He's the Drake. He's like the Jay-Z. He's the Jake and the Jay-Z of it. And LeBron drops a shoe and

Starting point is 01:57:23 Jordan drops a shoe. Nigga, we going to Foot Locker. We done already had... The difference is, we done seen all the Jordan shoes. We done seen them all. It don't matter. We do matter. If Jordan dropped those right there in his colorway, I don't... Anywhere from 1 to 12.

Starting point is 01:57:41 That's because he's been living off of it for 30 years. That means that's how popular he is. No, it's how desperate they are. They can't make anything new. There's nothing else. We don't need to make nothing new. We don't need to make nothing new. Coca-Cola ain't making a new box.

Starting point is 01:57:54 Same thing. Yeah, they did. Yeah, they changed everything. No. Yes. It's called Starry now. It went from Sprite to Starry. No, not Starry.

Starting point is 01:58:02 You don't see Pepsi commercials no more. You don't see Pepsi commercials no more. You don't see Coca-Cola commercials no more. now is went from sprite to star Pepsi commercials no mo you'll see coca-cola no mo But it but I guess it was out the window, but just like but just like rap though whoever gives you Whoever gives you just like that whoever gives you the closest thing to his original form, right? That is considered hip-hop right and that but that's just that's just when we fell in love with it when it was introduced yes like people don't realize that when it was introduced to you that is your first love that's that right your first girlfriend your first girlfriend who made you feel like a man you're gonna judge everything to it. Yes, right that that's that's just life That's why first car and OB

Starting point is 01:58:49 Is my foot Kobe at where I put him because when we watched the game when he was playing it at a certain level It was like I never seen nothing like this Even when we got the originator Michael Jordan you go back you be like Mike did it first is like to us Yeah, so there's there's a dr. J era. Yeah, right So we look at the air that we came up here We like man this nigga cold was cold now did the air that the Trev's and all them the young 20 they like LeBron We never seen nothing like LeBron LeBron is that guy LeBron LeBron LeBron and we get it So I'm just I just hold what I hold we got a whole from our era golden there

Starting point is 01:59:22 2000s R&B 90s R&B 90s R&B, 90s hip-hop, 2000 hip-hop. To us, that is the best era of R&B. The best era of all time. Well, that's not really debatable. You can't tell a 15, 17-year-old that. No, you can't. You can't tell them a lot of shit. You better tell them to put that shit in.

Starting point is 01:59:36 You see them kids, they sing a Keisha Cole. Yeah. Come on, it's coming back. They sing a Keisha Cole, dude, bop, bop, because of who? Huh? Because of Keisha go T Genesis did that data that yeah, no OT Genesis did that remix on it?

Starting point is 01:59:57 How that shit was the worst that was that was it was the fight but that's what I'm saying he it was funny it made it Like most of the things but nothing the thing, think about anything that pops from the old days is because someone young did it. Right? We're done with the 90s. This is a young trend. It's popping because of the young generation.

Starting point is 02:00:18 Yes. Right? But the young generation, for the most part, they don't know nothing back. Just like when we played, we didn't know nothing about the 60s and the 70s People who's in media been the 20 years. They don't even know nothing about that error

Starting point is 02:00:30 They only introduced the error that they know right so it's it's really for you to be really Updated for you to be informational you have to sit down and go back exact and watch they not doing that That's why when I say some stuff people like what the fuck you're talking about then they go back and watch. They not doing that. That's why when I say some stuff, people are like, what the fuck are you talking about? Then they go back and look and like, fuck. You're right. Fuck. Because you actually watched this and you're like,

Starting point is 02:00:50 yo, I got to go look at this shit. Sometimes when I see a topic, I'll call. Hey, how was the game back then? And when they was talking about the 80s and he was like, y'all, dog, listen,

Starting point is 02:01:00 you're talking about the original form of it, right? Yeah. The original form, he would say, but it's just like anything. The original form is not as good as you think it is, but because it's the original, that's all I know. He said, we had three people on staff, the coach, the assistant coach, and a medical, one medical. We didn't have no trainers. If you had bad form coming to the NBA, God dammit. That was it in 80s

Starting point is 02:01:26 He said you didn't have no one to introduce New form shooting. So if you shot your shot was bad coming in 10. That was it We didn't have there was no guys sitting there rebounding for you. You taking 500 shots under that It was like so we didn't have shooting machines that you can sit on there and shoot a thousand shot We didn't have that so if you put extra 30 minutes into your own crap Goddammit you was above the rain for sure after the game. We taking a six-pack to the head. See you next game We didn't have the middle he said we was we didn't time to, after game, sit there and train for two hours. We had to catch a fucking red-eye flight.

Starting point is 02:02:09 Oh, yeah. Commercial. Commercial. Sitting with the regular people. Ice bags going to the next city. So we didn't have training. Wasn't no ultrasound. He said what you're saying is fucking correct, but they don't want to say it.

Starting point is 02:02:22 Right. We didn't have trainers to work on our individual skills so whatever we did before the game or after game or in practice that was it yeah it was we was on our own we had to flip the ball out catch it shoot flip the ball out catch a shoot that was our in the post work on our shit by ourselves it's the same with music you didn't have all of these different softwares and all these different microphones

Starting point is 02:02:47 and different engineers that can tweak your voice. It's like, you had to put that shit on the two track and take this off. It was a whole bunch of shit that you had to do to make you special. But that's what I said. So it's a give and take. He said, we will have the fame of it

Starting point is 02:03:01 because it was limited. So if you're Chicago, back in Bird and Magic, right? The two cleanest dudes, right? They're pushing the league because those are the two channels. Then you have Dr. J, then you have Jordan. So you have a four-channel rotation. So your fame in the 80s came from four channels, right?

Starting point is 02:03:21 Playing against these guys. He said, now most of you guys will lose your stardom because everybody, I don't have to watch. I don't have to watch LeBron James if I don't want to. I can watch anybody I want to. I can flick from channel to channel to channel to channel, watching different games. So I don't have to be sit and glued to a certain person. He said, but now you guys have social media where you can get back some of your stuff. He said, but now you guys have social media where you can get back some of your stuff. He said, so it's a given pool on your popularity anyway. He said, so it's not comparable.

Starting point is 02:03:54 He said, it's really not comparable. It's just hard. It's just times are different. Game is different. You guys are more popular due to the fact that you have overseas countries watching you, right? Now, they can watch you in TV form versus when you go overseas, they're buying tickets to see you now. Right.

Starting point is 02:04:11 Movies. You had to buy a ticket to go to the movie theater. Now you can stream that shit. Now you can stream it. So these movies are going to have more money and more sold out versus then, but they won't have more ticket sales. Right. You don't even got to watch bootlegs no more. Right?

Starting point is 02:04:24 Oh, yeah. It's glory day. That's what I said don't even got to watch bootlegs no more. Right? Yeah, it's glory day. That's what I said, bootlegging. So the game is all different, right? So you got to get flex. Yeah. Hey, so who's the Jay-Z of the NBA? LeBron.

Starting point is 02:04:36 Oh, okay. You said, oh, LeBron, okay. Whoa, you got to be careful when you say that. Wait, LeBron is? Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, because they be careful when you say that because Jay's not... Because Jay-Z is the best rapper ever. Jay who? Jay-Z is the best rapper ever.

Starting point is 02:04:49 Tupac is the greatest ever. How could you dare? How could you dare? How could you dare? Well, who's the Tupac up there? That's what I'm saying. The Tupac is Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is the Tupac. Michael Jordan is the Tupac? Yeah. Damn. Michael Jordan is the Tupac Michael George the two-part. Yeah Hey Michael Jordan is the truth. Damn

Starting point is 02:05:11 Over over over who over Jay. Yes, nigga Jay is still lazy died. She's looking out for mob deep niggas when I find you Mm-hmm, yeah, that was motherfuckers don't deserve to breathe how many me yeah, Jay-z was Jay-z was a run don't make me Jay-z was a rookie make me it was a rookie It was a rookie around he wasn't really he was That's just like move a fucking round look that's like I hear no more does you wouldn't be here at all No, no, no, no, no, that's cat That's cap because my cat. That's just like everybody bragging.

Starting point is 02:05:46 Me and my homie was still here. Hey, me and Bigfella was still here. Me and Bigfella, you wouldn't even, hey, you be trying to figure out. Bigfella wouldn't even be in that position because of who he was signed to. You be on some Meek Mill shit, nigga. All right, well, that's just like everybody bodying Wimby right now then bragging that, yeah, I was better than Wimby. Did you see Wimby? Huh? Did you see Wimby in year six or seven? No.

Starting point is 02:06:09 Then be quiet. Like Bruce Bowen. Bruce Bowen made a statement about LeBron James. About LeBron James. He made a statement, said, yeah, he wasn't that tough. That was cool because you faced him when he was 23 Mm-hmm. Did you face him when he went to Miami and became King James? No, so your your version of LeBron James ain't the LeBron James. Everybody else had the face JZ wasn't better than DMX man

Starting point is 02:06:42 For all the years That's... Nigga. That's... You mean Jay-Z ain't better than Nas? We gotta stop the cap. We gotta stop the cap now. We gotta stop. Come on.

Starting point is 02:06:52 We lie. We lie. We lie. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are.

Starting point is 02:07:00 We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. We live, man. ETHER! That's all you know? No, last nigga live. God's son, which one you want me to go? You want me to keep going? ETHER came out in the early 2000s.

Starting point is 02:07:12 2001. Street dreams. So it's been 23 years. It's been 23 years. And he ain't dropped a verse since then. That nigga Nas ain't dropped a verse ain't like that Excuse me nice

Starting point is 02:07:31 Stop what you suck on you suck on one battle. That's the Do you know what either mean when you get entered? You're not coming back if this one Come back from being a third and it seemed like the one we had come back was the Themself I don't have to do nothing after this. Yes you do I should eat this if you gotta keep going the game keep evolving If it's if it's one artist that point you and Jay and it was shit and it was If there's one artist that got at Jay in a record, it's why I mean you love my style nigga renegade Okay, but like the eminent was going going crazy this is what we don't take in

Starting point is 02:08:06 factor just with life to make you great you have to have longevity you can't be great for one or two years you can't call three billion streams that's called right now three billion no one's close to him the closest artist to three billion is 550 million. No, Michael Jackson got more than that. Three million out of the rappers. Out of the rappers. Three billion. Look at him when he died.

Starting point is 02:08:34 Three billion. You said longevity. He hasn't made a song since when? Exactly. Exactly. He has no more music. That's how good you are. No, that's nothing.

Starting point is 02:08:43 You still selling after you've been dead That is funny. We're buying your seat while you alive Okay, you're proving the point you ain't good enough When did they buy it when he was around? Did he buy it when he was? He was bigger when he died, huh? He was bigger when he does When triple X died he became big let me see you toss it Yeah

Starting point is 02:09:15 Until the end of time who were you when you be when you were alive America's Most Wanted Yeah, how was it when he was can't see me? Yes You're talking about don't don't you're talking about a whole bunch of night do this How many great out he was 25 how many great I was five guys 25 how many great I was five 25 all of them Was great all of them all of them all of them strictly for my niggas that not us All of them strictly for my niggas. That's not longevity all of them to apocalypse now Don't make me like when I start when you talk about Nas where was his music for the last 20 years Don't you have to be grateful as long as don't like you gotta be a fan

Starting point is 02:09:57 It is your right the you can't just be a nigga talking you gotta be a fan of this shit You gotta bring up names and albums and song titles lyrics You know great to not winded winded why am when did pop die? 94 4 5 now. You don't even know when he died 90s. You know this nigga don't know no hip-hop. He's a 94 95 Nobody died 1996 okay, so 1996 before he died every song you named, what was the numbers then? Number ones. No, they wasn't.

Starting point is 02:10:31 Number ones! No, they wasn't because they was battling with Biggie and Cap. Number ones. Yeah, yeah. Before he died. You didn't even know when he died. You can't bring these numbers. Number ones.

Starting point is 02:10:40 Number ones. They were number ones when he died. Before he died, all them songs was number one they were number ones when he died before he died all them songs was number one dear mama was not number one before he passed away oh my god this big do not go as big as that do not do not go on record his his his he's as big as that hat. Do not go on record saying that. His leg. He said, dear mama was not number one. Before he passed away. Oh, my God. You got to know how big somebody is.

Starting point is 02:11:12 You got to stop them before they die. Because once they die, everything gets heightened. You said, dear mama was not number one. Before he passed. Oh, my God. When did dear mama come out? 90 what? Two?

Starting point is 02:11:22 Three? Oh, my gosh. That was on All Eyes on Me, right? No. Me Against the World. 25th. So it was number one, Trev? Just tell me if it was number one or not.

Starting point is 02:11:41 Just tell me if it was number one. Let him finish, dog. Let him finish. Overall, it peaked at 27, Chief. Number one or not. Just tell me if it was number one. Let him finish. Let him finish. Billboard entered Billboard's hot R&B singles. Not the major charts. Overall, it peaked at 27, Chief. Peaked at 27. Thank you. Was it number one?

Starting point is 02:11:52 No, 27 peaked. Was it? 27. Are you talking hip-hop specific or are you talking? Hip-hop. Was it number one? Dear Mama. What year?

Starting point is 02:12:03 Peaked at number nine on the hot 100. What year? Okay. What year? What year? What year, dog? 95. When did he die? 96. Okay. So it peaked at what number? Thank you.

Starting point is 02:12:17 Don't say nothing else. Just say number one. Damn, that's all I want to hear is number one. That's all you want to hear. Because that's what it says. That's all you want to hear is number one. That's all you want to hear Number one you said he never was number one Number one anymore You want to hear no walk is the greatest of all time if you want to hear that it's weird because he has all

Starting point is 02:12:42 He has all the numbers for number one albums and just like his wife ever He got all the numbers still complaining about not being the greatest you not Tupac he's one of those who you put you change the category to make Tupac number one at midnight around 3 a.m. Between 6 and 5 and you just to wow in a hamburger Tupac Tupac to good,ac. He's the number one selling action slash. Hey, hey. California love.

Starting point is 02:13:11 California love. Excuse me? What about Will Smith? Oh, being dark skinned. Then you just add shit to make him number one. We get it. California love. Produce Y.J. It's cool. That's a great song. It's cool. Shit to make them number one we get it, California love Produce wise phenomenal, but just been a fool

Starting point is 02:13:26 That's great song. I have it on my school produced by drink, but this is how the for your love. Okay, okay about it the remix Any other any of number one? We're I just want to know posthumously true 96 97 of course what after they died okay so just kind of like Heath Ledger's career after

Starting point is 02:14:07 he died and made it then boom and shot up the number one and and did all I can we get it okay all right just don't just don't give him no credit then you know Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. I was not going to say that. I want to be number one. How the hell does that make any sense whatsoever? All you got to do is keep arguing with me and I keep killing you. We're going to go to number one. All you got to do is keep arguing with me. I keep winning. We go number one. Like we've been going.

Starting point is 02:14:38 We keep going. This episode is going to go to number one. We keep going. I'm telling you. As long as I keep beating you and these debates, we're going go to number one. I'm telling you. As long as I keep beating you and these debates, we're going to be number one. Ain't nobody got to die. Except for the dead body. I mean, the dead body.

Starting point is 02:14:53 Brandon's going to get a dead body. Gil got two dead bodies. It's been 10-1, 17-12. And until he's going to do it, we're going to stay right now and beat you again. We get another dead body. However many dead bodies y'all want to do, we ain't got to die for real, though. Okay? The metaphor.

Starting point is 02:15:09 Tupac the best. Hey, listen, I do anything to be number one. Kobe the best. Tupac the best. Who else? I'll beat this motherfucker right here. Nigga be like, you're number one. Yes.

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Starting point is 02:16:40 not the 50K y'all are pushing the price up on regular chicks chicks you got professionals professionals at 600 to 1200 you over here with instagram models that don't have the talent dirty butts they don't have the expertise oh and y'all charging 50 grand. Oh, my God. They got dirty butts. 16 to 1,200 is, man. It's a steal. It's a steal. 600, 1,500.

Starting point is 02:17:11 That's a steal. No, that's the price. No, that's a steal, bro. I be trying to business the price. That's a steal. See, the problem is they don't know where to find them. It's specific sites you got to go to. You just got to know where to find them miss the specific sites. You gotta go to you just

Starting point is 02:17:31 You gotta you gotta know where to find them. You know saying but I'm just talking about the part like like they pick like I Know you got the money, but it's twelve hundo and that's just on the double That means everybody else is still about six hundred eight hundred Professionals like if you're gonna get if you're gonna go that route professional professional I don't want him why am I overcharging for amateur? That's just like charging my thing just Let it be known You pasta I mean shit. I'll sell it plus what the fuck fucking 2024 we know you ain't got no Whatever They're really a word whatever well, I thought you had a price tag on it

Starting point is 02:18:08 You say gotta play on the floor when you take your pictures on the floor. You ain't got it No, amateurs back deal this fucking marriage Instagram models back then was called 150s and then if they was top names black magazine 250 250. That's that's how we called him. Yep She's one. She's 150 or she's 250. I don't know where y'all got the information to go 50 grant they don't understand how to do it. It's tough. It's called Like the poor he stars back then it was in the 500 600 So the regulars regular girls on black magazine was 150 250 even that much it was called book a man hook him Come in hook him as you book them for the footage for the club and you put them on the flyer

Starting point is 02:18:56 Moon they come to the club you promote them. Hey, I got such a such here Do you get it? And I'm by the time the end of the night you ain't paid for nothing but the hotel it really like you say a 250 That's how that shit got with Book a man. That's how that chick got me. Book a man hooker. That's how she got me. Book a man hooker. What caliber of hotel? Holiday Inn?

Starting point is 02:19:09 And hook. Man, book and hook. Got booked and hooked. Damn it, that's how they got me. I knew it. You got to know it. What caliber of hotel? Holiday Inns?

Starting point is 02:19:18 Ramadas? No, you got to put them in a nice one. You got to put them right next to you. You give me like a join room. It's one night. The Westin is fine. $200? Go right there. Back then, 200 was a good night.

Starting point is 02:19:27 I'm not going there. You going, so you going to travel to the Westin? Who? You. No. No, she going to travel to the Westin. She going to? How's she going to get you?

Starting point is 02:19:34 She come to the spot. Oh, you're talking, oh, like on the road. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, the four C's. I mean. With you, right? Yeah, yeah. I was going to say, because I'll have.

Starting point is 02:19:40 I mean, yeah, that. I can tell you couldn't have your work like walking through the lobby on our team. No. Getting stolen. Gotcha. Gotcha. Where you going? Aw. But thank god you couldn't have your work like walking through the lobby on our team Get stolen gotcha. That's a way you on Better room I got your better. Oh, he got you walking through the lobby like this Anytime they saw about they knew it was BJ. Oh, no, yeah, yeah. That's BJ.

Starting point is 02:20:08 We had scavengers. Hey, hey, when you in a team full of ugly niggas, they already know that the baddest bitches with you... Yeah, they know. They know. The fuck? Man, you know who that... Who she with?

Starting point is 02:20:16 You know who she with, nigga. Who she with? Come on, bro. Come on, bro. You don't have to. Move around. You don't have to. Move around.

Starting point is 02:20:24 We had scavengers, baby. Yeah, man. We. Yeah see that unarmored shit. She got on Oh, he got you in the under armor Man you ain't got the you ain't got the cold to the Adidas I Get your kids some clothes That little shit All right, let's move on to mostly fans We've done a sufficient job doing our part to try to get Can you yet again y'all really do mostly fans presented by underdog fantasy if you have not done so already download the underdog fantasy app use promo code

Starting point is 02:21:30 gil don't match your first deposit up to $100 we're gonna go viral for this one oh we asked the poll to before we start mostly fans greatest rapper ever the chat had to pocket 38% jay-z at 21% other at 41% so other take other for oh shit other I'm a 41 they probably considering other Drake and all these new niggas They brought it cuz oh little way little Wayne Oz Biggie 38 go I'll take that biggie take my 38 So our first question from underdog user D Colbert So who would you rather have trade deadline D game six clay, or playoff P?

Starting point is 02:22:08 Say that again. Who would you rather have? Trade deadline D low, game six clay, or playoff P? Game six clay. For me? No. I need to say. No.

Starting point is 02:22:20 Which is game six clay? Which was that? That was only like two years. Killer. Ever since then, it ain't been game six, Clay? Which was that? That was only like two years. Killer. Ever since then, it ain't been game six, Clay. I'm taking D-Lo. Deadline D-Lo. Trade deadline D-Lo.

Starting point is 02:22:32 Trade deadline D-Lo. Trade deadline D-Lo. He's been on a mission since then. Clay Thompson's only been doing a couple series. A couple months? But game six is what, three games? Out of 12 that he's played? Nah.

Starting point is 02:22:44 That means if we go to a game six championship, you know what time it is. Nah, he's been... That's because he didn't play well since. That was only like... What year was that? 15, 16. Nah, but it wasn't even like the finals. It was...

Starting point is 02:22:55 It was... The first one was against OKC. OK, yeah. Yeah, when they came back from three months. Yeah, it was OKC game six, that one. Yeah, 10-3. That's what I said. It was only two games out of the whole game six. Out of 12 games, how many game six that one Yeah, that is only two is only two games out of the whole game six

Starting point is 02:23:06 And we're out of 12 game day how many games things that they play and all we got is what three or four games from? From D low Month one month be a killer when I play off Pito, huh? Let me fucking play off P. I gotta see it I'm going for I'm rooting for Paul George, bro. Boy, I thought that was making fun of the playoff. It was. It was. That's why I'm asking.

Starting point is 02:23:29 What about him? Oh, no. I don't know what he's... Because he don't show up. I mean, he's really... I mean, he got to be averaging at least 20. Wait, didn't he call himself that? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:23:36 Damn, man. He gave himself that name. Yeah. I don't know. I don't... What's the stats in the playoffs? 21 points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists, and 101 career playoff games. I'm taking playoff P. I 101 career playoff game taking pillow P

Starting point is 02:23:45 I think about me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Switch what what what what I'm going clay I'm going game six play clay game six is average 19 points four rebounds to assist and all of his 15 career game sixes I'm gonna play off pizza I'll take that 21 that means remember he had 10 threes in one game, so that means for him to get to 19, he's going to have some bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit. He's going to have some bullshit.

Starting point is 02:24:12 Yeah, a couple good games. Play off-beat, though. I need you to step it up a little bit. All right, next question. Video question from underdog user Shaq the Shooter. Number one, we see what the ref's been doing all year, throwing out emotional texts, bad calls, et cetera. What would the NBA look like if they had to answer media questions the same way the players do after every game? And then second question is just give me your top three open run players that y'all ever seen or played with throughout y'all career.

Starting point is 02:24:46 Appreciate y'all. See y'all at the next shootout. Shout out to Shaq the Shooter. Was a participant in the first ever Dueser in a shootout. Presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof woof. Did not. Got mirror colored. Y'all might not like my

Starting point is 02:25:01 open run guy. So what would the NBA look like if the refs had to answer their media after games and top three open run players? Well, technically the refs do the pool report, but you never... No, like if they had to do media report after and what they thought, right? Because, you know,

Starting point is 02:25:17 they're going to be like, well, technically I did mess up my fault and we can get to move on versus this lingering thing because how many people read the two-minute report? I've never read one. And they get to ask questions, so I think that'd be better, especially if you don't want to find, because

Starting point is 02:25:33 you can't keep questioning the players, because the media is questioning the players, and whatever the players say, you find in them. Please start finding the fucking reporters then, or tell the reporters reporters do not ask about the refs because it's a question if we don't answer it they get to complain about it so you got you can't just let the the the media ask whatever they want about the ranch when you know it was a question asked for sure and that's a lot

Starting point is 02:26:01 100 is a lot hell yeah and And then find them and then tell them they can't come back in. Like maybe some of the media people. Yeah, give us that. You know, give me the credentials. I'm going to go in and ask a real question. See what type of answer I got.

Starting point is 02:26:14 Who your run? Who your best? Who your top three open run players? That I ever played. I'll say Jelani Gardner. Okay, Gil. Representative for Southern California. Jelani Gardner. Okay, Gil.

Starting point is 02:26:27 Representative for Southern California. Jelani Gardner or Nick Young. The top three. Three. My top three? Yeah. Top three. So, Jelani Gardner, Nick Young.

Starting point is 02:26:39 Jordan Crawford. Okay. And I got Nick for run players. Where? Drew. Oh, Drew. Okay. And I got run players. Where? Drew. Oh, Drew. I'll give him that. Good to have the crew back together here on the couch. Hey,

Starting point is 02:26:55 I'm going to save it to Thursday. John Wall said something, man. John Wall did say some shit. Oh, yeah. No, no. He said he bust your ass. He said he bust me and Isaiah. They be on them random ass podcasts talking crazy. They need to come on a real podcast. Real shit. He said he bust his ass. That's just a fact.

Starting point is 02:27:11 He said me and Isaiah Thomas. So he bust your ass together. In two quarters? Two quarters. No. No way. No. He didn't say two quarters. How many quarters y'all play? We only play two quarters in camp. So that means he had 15 and a quarter on me and Isaiah. Damn! No. No way. No way. Brandon back Wednesday.

Starting point is 02:27:26 That was a great team. I mean, I love it, but I'm just. That was a great team for a Wednesday show. But not that. But listen. Not against Young B. Great team. Brandon will be back here Wednesday.

Starting point is 02:27:35 No, not against that time. Brandon, you'll be back on the show Wednesday. We will address that first thing. Did you talk to IT that morning? Did IT say something? Yeah, I talked to IT already. He said no too. I'm just saying.

Starting point is 02:27:44 I mean, you just broke it down. 15 a quarter? That mean? He said he had 34, I guess. That mean? Yo! Ain't no nigga ever seen 34 at camp. But, I mean, you know.

Starting point is 02:27:54 We will discuss it on Wednesday. Yeah, I got until Wednesday to get the camp stats. Get what makes a phone call. Statman, statman. We will statman, statman. I'm about to put a highlight tape in the chat so y'all can see what I was fucking doing. I'm about to get the stats. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Starting point is 02:28:10 Whoa, whoa! We will see y'all tomorrow.

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