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Episode Date: June 20, 2024Gil's Arena Reacts To Kendrick Lamar's Victory Over Drake as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew give their savage takes on Kendrick's Pop Out Show where he buried Drake in the greatest rap beef eve...r and united LA with an all time performance. Then they check in on the biggest storyline of the NBA Draft in Bronny James and discuss how Bronny's landing spot impacts LeBron James' Free Agency with the Phoenix Suns & Los Angeles Lakers emerging as the teams to land the King and his son. Next, they break down the state of the New York Knicks, discussing how last year's surprise contender can cement themselves at the top of the league with a strong offseason before debating the top NBA Playoff Performers of all time. Finally, they wrap up the show by picking the draft order for The Gil's Arena All Time Player Draft. Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:06 Kendrick Lamar's Pop Out Show 0:06:29 JJ Redick Hired By Lakers 0:31:08 Is JJ Set Up For Success? 0:42:29 Can JJ Handle The Pressure of LA? 0:54:43 JJ Redick's Hall Of Fame Potential 1:08:50 JJ's Only Career Dunk 1:15:23 When Kobe Went At JJ Redick 1:20:45 Bronny's Impact on LeBron's Free Agency 1:32:36 What If The Pistons Drafted Melo In 2003? 1:50:45 Gil's Arena All Time Player Draft Lottery 2:06:53 MostlyFans 2:26:54 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Kendrick Lamar united the West Coast for a special Juneteenth pop-out concert,
but does this show give him the edge over Drake in their beef?
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Sometimes you've got to pop out and show ninjas.
And Kendrick Lamar did just that on
Juneteenth. Turn it all the way up
and uniting L.A. with his pop-out
Cannon Friends concert at the Forum in Inglewood.
It was Kendrick's first major performance
since the beef with Drake escalated a few months ago
and the city showed out.
It was a star-studded affair
with the basketball community well represented.
Russell Westbrook and DeMar DeRozan hopped on stage
and LeBron and James Harden were spotted in the crowd
singing along.
Kendrick performed classics in most of his recent Drake diss tracks,
starting his set with Euphoria and ending with Not Like Us,
which was introed by the legend Dr. Dre.
Kendrick proceeded to do Not Like Us five times in a row just to make sure that you got the point across.
And he had the crew all up on stage.
Legendary photo.
A lot of legends., bunch of different sets.
All united as one, no issues.
You see Westbrook right there in the back.
Westbrook.
What'd I say, Westbrook?
No.
You skipped Bayless's turn.
No, I did not.
Mm-hmm.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, you crazy.
Run the tape back. I run with Russ. Russ is. Yes, you did. Yeah, you're crazy. Run the tape back.
I run with Russ.
Russ is my guy.
You's the L.A. guy.
So, question for the couch.
Brandon, we'll start with you.
Compton, Gardena, L.A.
Representative from the city.
What did Kendrick show Ninjas with the pop-out?
It was cool.
I mean, it was great for the city. Oh, my God.
I mean, yeah. I mean, what do you expect? Like, it was cool.
It was straight.
I mean, it was great.
It was great. I wanted to see
more OGs, though.
But I did say Dr. Dre was gonna come.
I thought, like, more OGs,
like you said, like DJ Quig. I wanted to see, like,
Kharab Snoop. I thought Snoop would have came out.
But other than that, everybody popped out and showed up.
Tommy the Clown was there.
He a legend.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're from LA, Tommy the Clown, that was killer.
So Rashad, I see you got the crown on.
You got the red shirt, red shoes.
How did you feel about the pop out Cane and Friends concert?
I think I was born on the wrong coast.
Okay.
I'm with L.A.
You with L.A.?
Fuck with L.A.
You can't be a Celtics fan anymore, though.
That shit last night was legendary.
To the 10th power.
Why y'all think he performed the song so many times?
See if y'all connected.
You said why?
Mm-hmm.
Why did he perform it so many times?
Mm-hmm.
Five times at least by my count.
No.
I'm trying to tell you.
Did not give, I promise you.
I'm trying to tell you.
I talk with a stutter.
Why did he perform the song five times?
Why did Kendrick perform not like that?
Filming the video.
Music video.
During the concert.
It was like when Jay-Z and Kanye.
Filming a video on your ass.
This is the people.
LA's different out here.
Like, we ain't never seen nothing like that.
Just out of the blue on some diss shit.
That was a diss concert.
It was the first ever diss concert.
Some people called it a funeral.
Definitely.
Gang cella.
What?
Hater cella.
On Amazon?
With Jeff Bezos.
What?
Sponsoring the whole event.
What are we talking about here? Well, you know where Drake was.
Nowhere.
He was nowhere, nigga.
Nowhere.
It was out of here.
You can come back from that.
That concert was way more than just something to watch, man.
That was better than the Super Bowl?
Hell yeah.
LA was out there. Everybody on culture. That was better than the Super Bowl? Hell yeah.
LA was out there.
Everybody on stage.
He brought everybody on stage.
Hmm.
Better than...
They didn't bring everybody on stage at the Super Bowl.
Better than Dre and Snoop's Super Bowl performance, Brandon?
I'm asking, you said it was?
Absolutely.
If you ain't show up for Ken last night, you wasn't friends.
It's Ken and friends. You ain't show up for Ken, you ain't his friend.
If it was Ken and friends to pop out in LA, you ain't show up, you don't fuck with Ken.
It was cool.
I mean, it was his friends.
You don't fuck with Ken.
It was his friends.
It was his friends.
His people.
All that shit.
Fire to me, personally.
No, definitely fire.
One of the greatest shit I've ever seen.
Been here a long time.
I don't know if it's the greatest. I've ever seen. Been here a long time.
I don't know if it's the greatest.
San Fernando Valley, but you ride with L.A. on occasion.
How'd you feel about the Kendrick show last night?
I didn't watch it.
It was during my nap time, I guess.
I mean, I watched YouTube.
I mean, I watched it on, like, whatever they showed on Instagram.
Yeah, you nap from 4 to 8 p.m. Pacific?
I mean, he took three shots
of Gentleman's Cut. Of the Gentleman's Cut, West Coast?
I mean, you had to be
there, right?
Streaming on Amazon. He was streaming on Amazon.
Yeah. Oh.
Why
Brian didn't get on stage?
Because he ain't West Coast. L.A.
James Harden. L.A. James Harden.
I mean, you played for the Lakers.
I thought I was going to see Brandon Jennings on the stage for a second who Brandon Jennings. Mr. B Brandon Jenny
He stay out here in the valley. Those no, I don't I don't go to functions like that
I'm not a real concert type of person. Yeah, um
One because it sounds better on the radio, the actual song itself.
Right?
So the song itself sounds way better.
So for me to go to the concert, your performance, your stage presence is what I'm coming for.
So, you know, you're only talking about really a few people.
Right?
You're talking about Beyonce.
You're talking about T-Pain,
Usher. I went to her concert
and she was fire.
Your favorite concert, right? Beyonce?
Chris Brown, Usher type.
It's not about the music at that point
because I know the songs. It's just about
the performance itself.
Okay.
You said it sounded better in the car instead of like...
Yeah, my earphones sound way better my earphones
No, I think
Because everybody yelling in the back and shit touching you and trying to clarify and got time
I'm trying to hear exactly every lyric you rap with it, right?
But I think if we would have went last night you would have heard not like this
Totally different than you've ever heard it or not because he ain't singing it have to cross the end of the offbeat
No, no, he didn't say all of it.
Like, word for word.
I paid word for word.
So I don't want to hear you saying shit he's supposed to be saying.
Then he do one of those, and then you offbeat, he offbeat, I'm all fucked up.
Like, I ain't got time for that shit, man.
The energy and the...
No, the energy, I get it, but...
That sound in there probably was unbelievable.
Now, you come on there, you got, like...
It looked like it was 30, like, the Wu-Tang Clan up there.
You got Westbrook who know how to do the dance.
Then this person don't know how to do it.
You got Lil' Kid know how to do it.
Give me the real people who know how to walk up there
so it's a walk-a-thon.
It's different walk-a-thon.
Tommy the Clown, you get up there and your group do it.
The rest of y'all sit your fat asses down.
Let them finish their little performance.
There was a lot of people I did not know
You know Don Kim Don
Kennedy right, you know Don right? Yeah, he performed right who that huh? Don Kennedy la rapper rapper
Yeah, la rapper. He he walks
I'm talking about when you play a song, I want the walk dance.
Shout out to Dom Kennedy, man.
LA, don't listen to Gil. I ain't
from LA, but I'd be out here.
Bringing out Tyler the Creator was
the hardest one, though. Oh, he came out?
Tyler the Creator and Dr. Dre, that was the hardest
that they brought out. J-Rock was fire.
Shout out to J-Rock.
Black hippie.
How long was he?
How long was the concert? It was close to four hours.
About four hours.
It was about four hours.
Very long.
DJ Mustard brought out people and then Kendrick came out and he brought out Dr. Dre.
It was cool.
So a lot of people did a bunch of songs.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, okay.
That's fine.
It was a concept.
What did you see on YouTube?
Just Not Like Us and then a bunch of people dancing. It came out to you for you was just crazy
Yes, but your concert was crazy man. You owe you went now
I was I was you think he could have played not like us more more than five times like how jay-z and him did
They did like 20 times when I was in the concert
No, like like so jay-z jay-z jay-z and Kanye did niggas in Paris
Like I'm think 11 12 times in a row up in, like...
In a row?
Yeah, in Paris.
Like, back in the...
And then I think Travis Scott did Fiend, like, 17 times this year.
Yeah.
In a row?
In a row.
It gets a little stagnant.
Oh, you just don't mix that shit in.
Like, you know what I mean?
Throw it on the second one, then, you know, like, throw it, like, seven.
But that's the point of the...
Twelve. That's the point of going to a concert. The energy is different. Oh, that's throw it like seven, 12.
That's the point of going to a concert,
the energy is different.
Oh, that's the point of a beat down.
You're gonna beat somebody, you play that shit
six, seven times in a row.
Well, 11, 13, I mean, we seen people do it at 12.
In a row though?
After like four, I'm like, all right, nigga, come on, man.
Say something to that.
Shit, mix it up.
Like, I'm like, mix it up, dawg.
Give it one or two.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Yeah, like, you know, you do Euphoria.
That was a great song.
Then you play, like, what?
Swimming pool.
Then, boom, Not Like Us.
Then come with something else, one of them boring songs, a little daddy, you know, daddy
to whatever.
Then, boom, Not Like Us again.
Don't hit me 17 times in a row, bro. I'm like, all right, man. How long can I quit walking?
You want to see the song one time take your ass back home
For six hours you had the the fabulous fort, dude.
I'm not gonna cry.
I was crying when he was doing this.
A minor.
That dance.
Because he don't know how to do the dance.
No, but he was doing
the highlight bling dance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When he was doing that,
I said, yo, that, that.
I was like, damn, all right.
So, Rashad,
the only one on this couch,
the proper respect.
For L.A.
For L.A.
For L.A. For L.A. I'm the only one on the couch not from la given la
real crazy props right now it was great that's crazy la shout out to la man california love man
i just hope if they do it again they wait so do they wait so do they have concerts like on
streaming platform where you can actually see the concert? Amazon Music. Yeah. Amazon Music.
We're going to be doing some concerts.
You got Amazon Prime.
You can watch it.
They also streamed it on Twitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They said Ice Cube didn't come because he had the big three.
Like he planned.
Ice Cube said it's big me.
He didn't have no big three yesterday.
Huh?
There's no big three game.
Oh.
Just planning and preparing.
Somebody told you something wrong.
I'm just trying to figure out why the OGs didn't come.
You tell me.
You got to invite them.
It's Ken and Friends.
Ken and Friends.
Ken and Friends.
Dr. Dre showed up, right?
Dog Pound, West Coast Connection.
That's what I'm saying.
A phone call, though?
Shit, he could even threw Bone Thugs in harmony, like,
right?
With Eazy-E.
Oh, that's so creepy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who were they signed by? They were signed by Eazy-E Who were they signed by they were signed by Eazy-E. Yeah now what song did Eazy-E perform with them
For the love of money. Yeah, they played that song and LA would have been on fire. Yeah
Do y'all not know y'all music when it comes to Los Angeles?
Yeah, but it was all LA artists though. Yeah, that was on stage.
Like Game wasn't there.
Cube wasn't there.
Snoop wasn't there.
Like DJ Quick.
DJ Quick.
Man, all that.
No sugar-free discipline.
No, Snoop didn't.
Yeah, because even with Snoop,
he could have brung out some of that Masterpiece songs
when he went there and blew up.
Yeah, but this is a LA thing.
He didn't need that.
Yeah, but this is a LA thing.
We're not playing nobody else.
Like, it wasn't for nobody else.
If you're not from LA, we're not playing it. Like, it was not for nobody like it wasn't for nobody else if you're not from LA
We're not playing it like they was not wasn't even old enough to know when Snoop went to
When he revived his career when he had those songs that came it was only West Coast
It was the biggest West Coast songs
But it was coming from a lot of people a lot of people don't don't really... Fuck the mother niggas. That was West Coast.
We didn't...
That was a West Coast song.
I know, but a lot of people
were really feeling Snoop Dogg
and Master P though.
Huh?
I said a lot of L.A. dudes
aren't really feeling
that Snoop Dogg
No Limit era.
First of all,
he got out of L.A.
because of who?
Yeah, sure.
We ain't gonna...
A lot of human beings got out of L.A. because of him? Yeah, sure. We ain't going to... A lot of human beings got out of L.A. because of that one man.
A lot of us, we weren't really feeling that down south Snoop at the time.
I mean, it was great music, though.
That was...
A lot of the niggas didn't show up for Kendrick's still side with Drake.
That's what's real.
I ain't.
The real honest side.
They don't want to spoil that.
They don't want to fuck that relationship up.
So let's talk about it.
If you're Drake, how do you feel about DeMar DeRozan
and LeBron singing Not Like Us at a Kendrick concert,
given what those lyrics are implying about?
You mean given that they've been tweeting about taking sides
with Drake's all this whole time and then they switched up
last second?
I'm just.
That part?
Just asking.
We keep the receipts.
We keep the receipts, man.
They over here with Drake, Drake, Drake,
and then all of a sudden. I don't think it's anything. I keep the receipts, man. They over here with Drake, Drake, Drake, and then all of a sudden...
I don't think it's anything. I mean, I like the song.
What you gonna tell somebody that has an ear of music like,
you can't like that song?
It's a beef. Pick sides, nigga.
Pick what sides?
I told you this already.
Pick what sides?
It's a beef. Pick sides.
But what? Are we making money off this thing?
I don't want to see you at they party, my nigga.
You don't come to my party after you just walked in with them.
You in there singing his song, too?
They got you on video singing both of our songs?
Picking a side for what?
Who homie is you?
But picking a side for what, though?
They lining me up in there.
They trying to line me up, and you in there like, that's the plan?
That's the plan?
But you not deep into that beef.
Man, we deep in that beef.
Everybody that's a fan is deep in that beef.
No, they're not.
The kids is out there like...
No, they're not.
Kendrick gonna drop something.
We gonna still listen.
Drake gonna drop something.
We still gonna listen.
When little kids are saying freaky ass nigga, it's crazy.
It's crazy work.
It's a song.
It's crazy work.
You can't help what the air like.
It's music.
He made the song though.
Kendrick made the song.
Freaky ass nigga. It's a great song. Brent breath how would you feel if you saw Gill at a concert
singing a Brandon Jennings this song because it was he likes the song good so
you and I can't help it if you like a beat and kids is like what I'm gonna say
oh I'm saying in a dish now I'm gonna do is I'm gonna see what your home and you
you're singing a diss track that a nigga, but I think that from Gil cuz that's what you know, but that's my man
So I ain't trippin
Okay, so
The issue the real issue is why should
Why should anyone care of a side if Drake plays the song at his concert? His DJs don't be liking that shit.
His DJs, him, he trolled the song in his own concert.
It wasn't good.
So what I'm saying is if he is playing the song, at that point is he relevant to picking a side?
Because at the end of the day,
the song only... Any claim against you only means something
if you actually...
If it is believable.
Not in rap.
It is.
If you're saying something to me and it's not true,
why do I really give a fuck about it?
Because that's the point of being rap.
I can subliminally attack you.
I can use fantasy to attack you,
illusion to attack you. As long as I'm
attacking you... But your fantasy...
But what I'm saying is if he's laughing
at the song himself,
now it's fantasy. But everybody else
believes it. It's not
fantasy anymore. Everyone else believes
it except for him because he knows I'm lying.
Yeah. Right? But they don't.
That's why they can say what I say when I say
freaky-ass nigga, yes, it's 69 guy.
It's a catchy-
They can believe that though.
It's catchy though.
They can really believe.
It's still catchy though.
But that's what I'm saying.
Can they believe it?
You can believe anything you want to believe, but if it's not real, it's not real.
You can believe A minor.
It's catchy.
It's catchy.
But if it's not real, what is it?
It's just like movies.
It's just like the movies.
If it's not real, what?
You're not going to watch it?
No, what I'm saying is if it's not real, what, you're not going to watch it?
No, what I'm saying is if it's not real,
why am I going to get upset about it?
It's not real.
Who, Drake?
Yeah.
Nobody says Drake going to get upset.
But that's what he has to accept his fate.
He's singing the song himself.
He's playing it himself in front of his audience
dance along with it.
So it doesn't.
Well, imagine you shooting yourself
and just sitting there bleeding out.
Yeah, I'm not bleeding out.
He shot himself.
It was like, let me just, I'm just laughing because, look, that song hot, man.
That shit killing me.
No, it's a fake bullet.
It's killing me.
It's not a real bullet.
That's the problem.
Yeah, it's not a real bullet because the claims aren't real.
So I can't...
Drake can't pop out nowhere right now.
But he is a little, but regardless if it is is true or not it's still a little embarrassing like
people are saying oh be whole like kids like like it just uses like the word
because like I mean that's my label like this is what I built so for somebody to
destroy that destroy what you build you're gonna feel some like regardless
if it's over you're gonna be that's what I'm saying a perception becomes reality
no matter how I paint it.
That's like if you, Gil Zarina, and somebody want to start,
from my other podcast, start dissing and start tearing us all down,
regardless if it's true or not, we're going to feel a way.
They can say some bullshit.
We're going to feel a way.
And then he got that type where he got over 500 million,
you know he's feeling a way.
So we got to strike first.
Who are we dissing?
They call me BBL Gilly.
Man, you see, I can fuck for a month. A month under. Yeah, but you don't. So we got to strike first. Who we dissing? They call me BBL Gilly. Fuck.
Amongst other...
Yeah, but you don't.
But some people can't handle that.
Some people can't handle that, man.
The whole way, everywhere you go...
My shit natural.
All you gotta do is prove it.
It's not real, though. If Drake was to
prove all the shit he was saying is not true...
He said it, though.
He said it wasn't true.
He could say it.
He could say whatever the fuck he wanted to.
But how do you prove it?
Shit, exactly.
That's the whole point of war.
When you say some shit, and you can't prove it to be true, and I can't prove it to be
wrong.
Like...
How do you prove it wrong?
It's called...
It's called the Predator website.
It shows you all of them.
I could show you all of them right now.
It's just a website.
And it shows none of us is on this registered website.
That's how you prove it.
How often do you check the website?
He was saying, you need to check them niggas and put them on the website.
You need to put them niggas on the website.
That's what he was doing.
He was saying, go in there and look in that mansion and see if them niggas and
that's the kids that's sitting there.
Yeah.
Overall, man, the beef was great.
I mean, that's why I said...
It's been very entertaining.
It was entertaining when it happened.
Hopefully it just stays.
What I want to hear now is the unreleased.
Like the unreleased.
Oh, the album's on the way.
The album's on the way.
Kendrick album on the way?
Absolutely.
See, we're just shooting a video.
Can I ask you something, though?
Is there a knock against Kendrick himself when his most famous work is the same one person?
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When we talk about a body of work,
your famous songs is dissing other rappers.
Is that not a knock in history?
But that's not true.
I know what you're saying.
Basically, your biggest records are just dissing people. But that's not true. At all what you're saying. Like, basically, like, your biggest records are just dissing people.
But that's not true.
At all.
So what's his biggest record?
His first album.
No, what's his biggest...
Record, song.
What's his biggest record?
Hey, when you say top five songs that are known to the world...
I would probably say Humble.
A B.E. Cypher.
Humble.
A B.E.T. Cypher.
Good.
A glorious cypher.
Huh?
A glorious cypher. Good. Oh, good. Be humble.
A glorious cypher.
Huh?
A glorious cypher.
Control.
Be humble.
Yeah, humble has the most streams.
2.2 billion.
Be humble would be his best.
I'm talking about what you know.
Money trees.
1.4 billion streams.
That's streams.
Some of these songs are not on stream chart, but we're talking about what he's known for.
Humble.
Humble?
Yeah.
That's number one.
All right. No. All right. Like That's number one. No. Alright.
Like Us is number one.
Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe is a good track.
Definitely started him out.
Those are songs that are items.
We're just talking about what you know of, what you know of him.
Nah, definitely Swimming Pools, Money Trees, Humble, all the songs prior to this.
All the songs.
This ain't his rollout.
This ain't Kendrick Lamar's first big record.
No, I'm just saying, like, there's no, like, I don't know, just rap.
Just, like, your song.
Like, even though Ice Cube did the No Vaseline, that's not his.
He's not known for that.
Today was a good day is what he's known for.
Yeah, today was a good, yeah.
What else is the stuff he was like?
His music, it's not this one thing in his history.
What I'm saying is...
But are you saying that that's what it is for Kendrick Lamar?
I'm just asking.
When Kendrick makes his splash, it's usually a diss song.
And I'm saying is that...
Yeah, I see it.
You see what I'm saying?
If I'm the rapper, I don't want to be known.
He only has one diss song that's charted.
This is the only diss song that's charted.
This is the only diss song that he put in so you can chart it.
But I'm saying Control was a song.
I mean, the BET Cypher was a thing.
But I'm just talking
about just like i'm just saying as an artist do you really want to be known for just this and the
same one man is that your legacy that's not his that's not his legacy any song outpass any song
he does moving forward can it outpass not like us yeah his album is about to come out i'm not
talking about i don't talk about a song he's talking about an album, I'm talking about a song.
He's talking about a song.
He has songs on the album.
When we say, when we say...
No, I know, but he said...
Go ahead.
When we say, what is Drake's number one...
What song will he be known for when he leaves this earth?
Eminem, Drake, I mean, you know...
Jay-Z.
Jay-Z.
What are you going to be known for, is what I'm asking.
Like, his is not gonna be none like us.
That's all I'm asking.
So you think he got a bigger song than that?
Hell yeah.
This record, that record's huge.
That wasn't even supposed to be a record that was supposed to be a diss track.
They had that already planned and just dropped that as part of the album.
And they just was like, let's change the words
on this bitch and drop it. Fuck this nigga.
Let's throw the summertime
summer banger. This is Will
Smith and them summertime. So if he drop an album this year
in the fall, he gonna have a song on there
that's better than Not Like Us going into the...
Bro, what? There's Kendrick Lamar, bro.
I'm just asking. When he pop out, he pop
out, bro. Yeah.
He got a song with Rihanna out bro. Yeah He got a song. I'm not saying that's not where Rihanna bro. Another one. Okay now another one
Well, I was raised my like if you take if this song is on the album, which most likely is gonna be on the album
one
Mm-hmm. If he take this song off the album, what does the album do?
It's gonna go platinum in two days.
Guaranteed.
I believe that.
Guaranteed.
The album itself without the song.
See, Not Like Us has put me in tears.
Oh, without that song.
Oh, no.
What do you mean?
Because Not Like Us is back number one today.
It stands alone.
That track, it doesn't need an album.
But that's the problem.
If you don't put, so now, but if it's on the album,
the album automatically is diamond because it uses this.
Not necessarily.
Yes, it does.
That's how it works.
Not necessarily.
That's how it works.
That's true.
Right, so this song, it automatically, whatever, shit,
I mean, that song ain't diamond yet?
It's not going to sell 10 million.
But what I'm saying, all the sales it has right now.
Yeah, they count for that.
It counts for that.
So the song automatically, as soon as it releases, it's in this, it already has.
So it's already platinum on day one.
So it can sell nothing and this is platinum.
The album itself.
That's why I said if you take it off, what do you think?
He's still going to do numbers. I'm telling you that. That's what I'm if you take it off, what do you think? He's still going to do numbers.
I'm telling you that.
That's what I'm telling you.
Is there a single by himself that he just dropped?
This album is going to eclipse all his albums.
That's what I'm saying.
Remove this song.
Yeah, it's not that.
What is the single?
He ain't dropped no single yet.
Okay.
He waiting.
That's why everybody waiting for his reply to Drake's last shit.
His reply was this so
Pop out hate that hate to end this conversation prematurely, but we have some breaking news
Who died according to Adrian Waldron out kill? Are you?
We gotta get our spirit down
Not a person well, you know this person.
We got some breaking news concerning the Lakers coaching situation.
J.J. Redick has agreed to a four-year deal to become the Los Angeles Lakers next head coach.
A day after Juneteenth, J.J.
A day after Juneteenth.
He like that.
He did not tell y'all.
According to reports, Rob Palenka offered JJ the job this morning.
Four for what?
Don't know the bread yet.
Four for 12.
News is just broke.
Four for 12?
Congratulations.
Congratulations, JJ.
Oh, man, we didn't expect this.
You didn't think that, huh?
Congratulations.
Oh, no.
You're welcome.
You're welcome. You're welcome.
You're welcome, baby boy.
J.J. Redick,
newest head coach
of the Los Angeles Lakers.
No word on how this will impact
the Mind the Game podcast
that we've all come
to watch and enjoy.
Now, that should be funny.
If they still do it all the time.
Oh, no.
I mean, you got to.
They said we hating on K-Dot.
Yeah. I don't. Some K-Dot? Yeah.
I don't know.
When you ask questions, people call it hate.
You ask a question, right?
You know, like if I said,
Stephen A,
if Tatum didn't win the championship,
is he still in your top five?
And if the answer is
no,
then he shouldn't be in your top five if he won the championship.
Either you top five or you top five.
You don't really.
There's no, a championship can't get you top five.
It's a team award.
You know what I mean?
I don't like stuff like that.
So, you know.
So, thoughts on J.J. Reddick being named
Lakers' next head coach, replacing Darvin Ham,
who was let go?
I mean, we saw it when the podcast came.
We knew what time it was?
Yeah.
Rashad been up here saying this the whole time.
He's been calling it.
Is that why you were the crowd today, Rashad?
Did you know something that we...
I thought it was Kendrick related, but it made all in one.
King Kong ain't got shit on me.
I think JJ waited until after the pop out to make the announcement.
He didn't want this moment to be soiled.
We predicted already that all that Dan Hurley shit was all just fabrication
because JJ was still working with ESPN.
Conflict of interest, man.
We got to hold this thing out.
Held it out.
And now we're here.
Now we get to see the LeBron dilemma.
So I know it's rubbing into the next segment, but you know.
Rich and them.
Three or 19 million?
19?
You're saying three for 19?
No, I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
You don't believe the internet.
Right now it's going to be a lot of misinformation being disseminated.
Sounds about right.
No, but it's not.
But what?
Was I right?
Rashad, you were accurate in your analysis and assessment that the Mind the Game podcast
would lead to JJ Reddick getting the Lakers head coach job.
LeBron was grooming him and training him and displaying his coaching acumen for all the world to see.
That sounds like the same type of response I would get from Gil.
It's like going around just saying, yes, Rashad, you were right.
That was like 18 words.
I know, I know.
It was impressive.
It was impressive.
It was more than yeah.
It was more than a yeah.
I was right, B.
Yeah.
I was right.
I appreciate that.
You're a man of your word, man.
You're right.
Stand on that.
Interestingly enough, Woj broke the news.
Shams has been reporting that Reddick was the top candidate.
I don't know if this is a situation where one is trying to jump in.
You talking about Woj?
The same person who put out the fake news for his friend?
So now he want to report?
He should.
I mean, to be honest.
If he wants to be taken serious, he should just say,
alright y'all, this is the real, this was the real personal all the time, I was just trying to get my friend paid.
Now we can say, alright man, okay, appreciate that.
But the fact that you're trying to, we know what you did.
You tried to throw everybody for a loop.
It worked.
No, it didn't.
It worked for some of the cast.
Some of the cast.
Some of the cast.
Sometimes you got to pop out and show niggas.
Niggas was getting mad
because Dan Hurley's popped up as a candidate.
They're like, what the, what the?
Eh, y'all sit down somewhere.
So now the next point gives what you have said previously.
If J.J. did get the job, as important as him being the head coach,
it's now surrounding him with elite coaching-level talent
to help make that transition smooth
if he gets ready for his first NBA head coaching opportunity.
Yeah, I mean, you know, just with any transition,
you have to, it has to be tactical, it has to be smart.
You have to really design your staff
according to your weaknesses.
And at this point, you know,
when you're talking about being a coach, right,
most likely it's all weaknesses at this point
because you don't know what you're gifted at
once the game starts, right? You know know so you need someone who's great at
design and practice functional practices even though we've been in practices we
know what's good like you know we can go through a practice of like man this is
this functional of a practice is horrible right he needs to switch this
drill make it this drill so that has to be designed right when you look at the
The season right when the season comes out you have to have an eye for days off
Traveling all that is part of coaching
It ain't just we get on the court and I just make subs and sub in and sub out. That's not part of
That's the easy part. It's designing the
The layout of how the season's supposed to run.
Who does J.J. know that's a coach?
I'm sure he knows a lot of people that are coaches.
I would say the first person that comes to mind is probably Coach K.
Okay.
Would be my first person that he would know, just given their relationship.
First person.
Who just took over for the Detroit Pistons?
Trajan Langdon,
former Duke basketball player.
Wait, he's the head coach?
No, Trajan Langdon,
the president, I believe,
of the Pistons.
He was recently hired,
had to fire Monte Williams.
Now he's the coach.
That's what he wanted the whole time.
But Elton Brand,
what was he at?
He was in Philly.
He's in Philly still.
He's still in Philly.
So he's still in Philly, right?
So there's people he can call and just ask questions to and pick their brain.
And imagine his assistant coaching staff.
So what did you all say? It's a Duke thing?
It's going to be a lot of, it's going to be the USA type shit.
JJ's going to assemble like a Team USA coaching staff type shit.
He has to.
Of that level. Well, I mean, it still has to be, it's still the Lakers.
It's still the Lakers, dog, and they're gonna try to, they're gonna try to have you a replacement
right in.
Like, it's gonna be right there.
For him?
After what, four years?
It's a four-year deal.
I think year two, maybe, but not now.
So.
They wanna give him some confidence.
No, I mean, with assistant coach, they're gonna put an assistant coach that, I mean,
they'll fuck around and put money on the coaching staff.
Maybe.
Mm.
Maybe.
I mean, you're going to put
an Avengers of assistant coaches.
The Avengers of assistant coaches, for sure.
Yeah, you're going to have to put
experience around them.
Yeah.
That'll make that transition.
Adrian Griffin, I wouldn't be mad at Adrian
being on the assistant coaches' staff for that team.
So you guys all play for good coaches,
play for bad coaches.
What are the ingredients,
if you could put them together,
to make the ideal NBA head coach?
Ideal.
Or as close to what you would consider to be
what makes a great NBA head coach?
I mean, he has to be a people person right he has to be a players coach and if
he's not the players coach there has to be players coaches on the staff that you can relay your
hatred for this level of the two right that's that's one right um you know practice times
like there's like little things that's very important that people don't really take in consideration.
Practice times, right?
Having the perfect practice time.
Shoot-around times, right?
Travel schedule is very important.
Understanding, you know, rest days and workout days, when to go hard.
Structure.
It's just mostly the structure of, it's just the structure.
It's the template.
You got to have structure, man.
Who would you bring in?
Player or coach?
As assistants? Like your first assistant? Yeah. We've Coach. As assistants?
Like your first assistant?
Yeah.
We've seen those, like, Rondo.
First and second.
First and second?
Uh.
You're probably somebody with some head coaching experience,
right, that can be a good conciliary.
Who's out there?
Probably Bringback Phil.
You'll Bringback Phil? Well, you know, he
probably not going to do that, though.
Because he is the
development coach that they all loved.
Phil Hedlund.
I thought you were talking about Phil Hedlund.
I'm like, Phil's not
going to play no second field.
He can't.
They're trainers.
Like, Pemberthy was over there, right?
I believe at one point.
Yeah, I mean, they had a very good training staff.
But from there, like, I'm going to get someone that the players can talk to,
that can work out where they can train.
I'll probably get some younger talent in there that can really be active with the players, especially my young group.
Like who?
You know, um...
So, Pemberthy was an assistant 2019 to 2022, went over to the Nuggets to become
a shooting coach in 2022.
Ah, makes sense.
Bring him back. He could get you a bucket back in the day. Who's local here?
Like some of these development coaches like Olin.
You bring them to be your second?
No, you bring them in to be.
No, no, it's for my coaching staff.
Your one and two.
No, what I'm saying is my coaching staff is at this point is it's how do I develop in-house first, right?
So that's very important, right?
In-house development, right?
So now you're thinking about teams like Denver.
You're thinking about teams like Golden State Warriors, right?
So I want to try to build the structure first, so I will go after trainers.
But a great training staff. So I want to try to build the structure first, so I'll go after trainers
But a great training staff, so you know
Olin would feel and someone else
Dallas traffic like you know what I mean they got Sham God over there There's a you know to mean like so some of these people you think that is irrelevant
The algorithm the the analytics say these guys are helpful.
So I'll go after that group first and then from there really.
So do you feel like the way that the Lakers are currently constructed, there's a lot of
question marks still, obviously with LeBron likely opting out, reports saying he would
likely re-sign a two or three year deal with the Lakers.
Is J.J. put in a situation that he's set up for success right now?
Draft less than a week away, free agency,
on the horizon with this roster.
Shit looked like two years and out.
How long is JJ's contract?
Four years.
Reportedly four years.
I'm giving him two years like you said.
Darvin Ham lasted two years.
I'm JJ. I'm going to solidify my legacy.
I'm going to get Mark Jackson
and Ray John Rondo.
Now I'm going to bring in
Jeff Van Gundy at the tail end
just if I need him.
Jeff Van Gundy?
So you want Mark Jackson
and Rondo and Jeff Van Gundy?
He went to the Clippers?
Van Gundy just went to the Clippers.
Wait, so like Stan Van Gundy?
No, no, no, Jeff.
His brother. He was with Team USA too for the last three years. Wait, Jeff Van Gundy? No, no, no, Jeff. His brother.
He was with Team USA too for the last four years.
Wait, Jeff Van Gundy was coaching the Celtics?
Or he was just a consultant?
Special consultant.
Oh, I thought you were talking about as a coach.
You were saying as an assistant, Rashad.
Yeah, he was talking about his three assistants.
On the bench?
Yeah, he was talking about his first three assistants.
Mark Jackson, Rondo, but Jeff would be like consultant. When was the last time Jeff coached what? 90 what?
He was in Houston. Was he in Houston?
He was assistant in Houston?
Something like that for like a quick little minute.
Yeah. Last time he had an official coaching job
was 2007 with the Rockets.
He was a senior consultant with the Celtics,
2023 through 2024,
and now lead assistant with the Celtics 2023 through 2024 and now
lead assistant with the Clippers.
Lead assistant.
Tyrone Lou hired him as the lead assistant.
On Tyrone Lou's team. Yeah.
I'd be worried. Yeah.
So see, I'm at the tail end of that,
but he already gone. I'd be worried about the
older, the
80s and 90s coaches because
the style and the kids' minds
are so different,
you know,
and if they haven't,
if they haven't adjusted
to the temperaments
of today's era,
right,
you know,
coaching these guys
versus,
you know,
Charles Oakley
and them
is very different.
It's structured,
though.
Right,
you know what I mean?
So you sitting there
saying stuff
that you can say
to these,
your New York team
and this, these kids get your ass fired quick as fuck. They'll turn on you Structure though right you know I mean so you sitting there saying stuff that you can say to these that you'll New York team in
This these kids get your ass fired quick as fuck
Yeah, turn on your turn on your quick. Yeah, but they got to know the times have changed though who like Jeff like to some
Of them old coach you got it like that's like saying don't don't raise your son the way he posted be raised
I just let him out here do what the fuck you want to do. No. The game got structure, too.
No, no.
Our game got structure.
The game does have structure.
The old school structure is the structure.
It's the foundation.
Attitude, ethics, professionalism,
all that shit is them old school coaches
trying to get the foundation right.
All the new school shit y'all talking about,
that's why you hired them other dude,
the trainers, like you said.
The trainers to get you through the new school shit.
But the ethics of how we go out here and play hard, play smart, play together,
that needs to be instilled from an older coach.
New coaches don't know that shit.
They just let you go do whatever.
No accountability, let you run up and down, like you jog back, all that Luka shit.
Jason Kidd is supposed to be on top of that.
What happens when you're on top of it? That's what you're not doing. They don't do those things. They don't make those mistakes when you be on top of that. Then what happens? What happens when you're on top of it?
That's what you're not supposed to do.
They don't do those things.
They don't make those mistakes when you're on top of it.
What I'm saying is what happens...
They're accountable.
What happens when you're on top of a guy who makes $40 million?
Who's expandable?
So you can say...
What does that have to do with the game?
What I'm saying is you can say whatever you want, but there's a difference between
yelling at a dude in the 80s and 90s, right? How Jerry Cross used to talk to those bulls and I used to talk to Michael Jordan.
That don't work today.
Your ass is gone.
So we were men.
We were men and these are boys.
You spanked your kids in the 80s and the 90s.
Great parenting.
You spanked your kids today, goddammit, you'd be arrested in an hour.
That is fair.
Motherfuckers that be.
Same ass whooping,
same belt, same leather.
How much it cost
to get out of here?
And your kid
will let you know.
Every time they come arrested.
You're going to get
that ass whooped today, though.
I'll be back in two hours
when they bail me out,
but you're going to whoop
your ass again
when I get home.
So if Jason Kidd
called out Luka,
you think Jason Kidd
would be fired?
Like, if he was, like,
in a team meeting
and was like,
yo, you got to get
your ass back
or we ain't going to do,
do, do.
You think he going,
from who Jason,
Jason Kidd's a top five
point guard,
the one that ever
played the game.
You Jason Kidd,
you yelled at me,
and I don't like
the way you said
what you said to me.
You the owner.
Me or him?
If you raise the question? Me or him? Are you raising the question? As the owner. Me or him? If you raised the question?
Me or him?
Are you raising the question?
As Luca. Me or him?
Oh man, I don't know. I'm going to have to choose you. But the fact that you're
raising the question on Zoom, hey man, you got to pick me or him because he's yelling
at me. Yo, get your soft ass out. Take your ass back to Slovenia, man.
Yeah, get my soft ass out. Get my soft ass out here.
But what you going to do, though?
He ain't fired Mike Finley for taking that damn drink out of his hand.
But that ain't that.
Y'all niggas lost every game after that.
That nigga, he need to be fired.
What you mean?
I can't talk soft to him?
They were one and four after Finley took Logan Beal.
We just got to point that out.
These kids can't be soft, man.
Walk off full with his drink.
Just one time old just one time
But but one time that he's awesome. It's like and out of all these years. I've been helping you
So now you mad cuz I'm but I'm yelling. Yeah, so now I got to get fired
It's the temper of the person the temperament of the person today the players today the power exceeds
Anything so when you watch some of these kids think about James Harden and people like that,
right? And when they're not getting back on plays and stuff, you embarrass these dudes today,
right? It's very different. Now it's, yo, it's me and him. What we're going to do here?
Bro, if you don't want it, it's me and him because you don't want to get back on defense?
No. That's crazy work.
It's me and you.
I don't like the way you talk about it.
Man, listen, Jason Kidd will have every right to slap the shit out of him.
That's crazy work.
Like, I'm with that, too, though.
If you're going to do all that, I'm going to slap the shit out of him.
What I'm saying is, are we going to pretend that all these coaches that's getting fired...
Aren't doing that?
Are getting fired because of they're just some bad coaches?
So is that what you're saying?
Or is it the locker room that they just get them up out of here?
You think it's a conflict?
Okay, so what do these...
You know us.
Okay, so what do they want, though?
Huh?
So what do these youngins want, then?
Because I like it.
Because if you don't want structure and you don't want somebody to have discipline and help you,
then what do you want, then?
You just want to just get paid and just go be a loser?
Like, you're going,
you got to change something.
Got to get some motherfucking foundation.
But we're pretending everybody is
Kobe, Steph mentality,
Giannis, the day's mentality.
It's only him.
Right, you're talking about
Jimmy Butler's mentality.
There's not a lot of,
we know there's not a lot of stars
that want to be held
accountable right like if i if i don't pass the ball to you i know i didn't pass the ball to you
but now if the coach comes out and say hey why you ain't passing and putting me on the spot you
already know i'm in my feelings is miami a place where people look at the organization and respect
it miami heat organization yeah yep because because accountability right because because of Pat and because of what they've done
They all hold each other accountable and they always hear the Miami what system or and you we know that everybody can't plan that system
Mm because they hold you accountable in the summer
They hold you not to go out nightlife and all that other shit, right?
You try to hold you not to go out nightlife and all that other shit, right? They try to hold you accountable. Throughout the whole league,
everybody looks at Miami like,
I don't know if I'm ready for that much
accountability. That's just old school
Pat Riley shit. That's just
old school vet
teaching, like, look, we gonna get this
done, this done, and this done. This is what
we're gonna hang our hat on, and if you can't
fucking deal with it, get the fuck up out of
here. The league used to be like that, but that's the mentality what you said
So it goes from Mickey first then the power went to who?
Pat Riley so the powers Pat Riley Pat Riley says pro you have the power
Whatever y'all say about school. I don't want to hear it
Right, so it that's where it starts the only two teams that have that type of structure is them
in spurs but right so when you say hey coach i don't like pop what pop gonna do all right let
me go talk to the general manager the general manager now says shut the fuck up all right hey
but hey so what did the general manager say it comes from the coaching though, right? No, but it comes from upstairs first.
So what I'm saying is like Dallas, right?
We already know the power in Dallas was what?
Mark, right?
Who did he favor?
His player first.
His player, Dirk, had the power.
Luka has the power.
So when they come up there and say,
hey, I don't like the way Coach...
Hey, my money bag said he don't like you.
So we're going to have to go ahead and, you know,
get on up out of here.
But, you know, that's majority lead.
The player has the power himself versus management.
No, I agree. I agree 100%.
But I'm just saying, like, from Pat
Riley coming from where he came from, from the Lakers
to New York, he was the type of coach
to hold you accountable. That's old school shit.
The Mark Jacksons, the motherfucking
Jeff Van Gundys, the Steve...
What's his name?
Stan Van Gundy.
The Van Gundys. All of these certain
coaches hold you accountable when they...
We could call it fossilized coaching,
which is outdated, but at the same time,
the foundation of that fossil is still
where you get the DNA from.
You go inside the fossil, you get the DNA,
you say, all right, this is where it begins.
You got to teach the fundamentals first.
We don't need them from nothing else but that.
I think that's where you bring
the old school coaches back into it.
You filter them in with the new school, and you say,
hey, look, man, we're going to do the fundamentals first,
and then y'all freestyle that other shit on top of it.
Because the one thing you're going to do is run the fuck back,
and you're going to play fucking hard.
See, that structure has to be like young teams, right?
That's why I said if any young team, I'm going old school.
Because when these kids are coming to the NBA, they don't know nothing, right? Like that's why I said if any young team, I'm going old school because when these kids
are coming to the NBA,
they don't know nothing, right?
And for the most part,
I don't know who said it.
I think Angel Reese said it, right?
She said, oh, I thought
training camp was going to be harder,
which is correct, right?
And everybody got offended.
It's correct.
College, her college coach,
if you see how she acts,
most likely she was 1,000% harder than anything
she's ever gonna face in the pros.
Period.
Right? So same thing coming from college.
These kids are in these college programs.
That was harder than any NBA structure.
Yep.
Right? So if you have an old-school coach, I would want to give it to teams that are very young
where it's easier to mold them into hard work.
Right?
So, you know, trying to put, you know, a Jeff Van Gundy or not, I don't know Jeff personally,
but Stan Van Gundy on the Lakers.
No.
Not Stan.
For sure not Stan.
Nah.
He's more back in Detroit.
He's one of those teams. He's Charlotte. Right? Putting for sure not Stan. Nah. He's more back in Detroit. He's one of those teams.
Charlotte, right, putting structure into those teams.
Like, you got to have, you still got LeBron over there.
You got AD over there.
They've been in their ways a long time.
And from there, it's just crashing.
You talking about three-hour practices.
That's why I say Jeff, because Jeff knows the veteran side.
All them vets he had in New York, all the vets he had in Houston,
like, he understands the seniority rules
and the longevity of that is maintaining the fitness,
maintaining nutrition, making sure these old guys get the rest they need,
all that type shit.
You got Mark Jackson in there.
I mean, I just think it's dope.
I think that would be a dope move,
but they'll do a more L.A.-centric move, though.
They'll bring some L.A. guys in there.
But Jeff is with the Clippers, right? He's with the Clippers. I mean, he more la centric move though. They'll bring some la guys in there Hey, but Jeff is it with the Clippers with the Clippers now leaders. I mean he in LA somehow
I mean with the best over there. Yeah. Yeah, so you're gonna see some change over there though
Why don't you see something change?
The Clippers clip bars with some change just some add just an attitude or energy that's gonna change
It's gonna flip them. I can see it. So let's talk a little bit more about J.J. in this Lakers news.
First-time coaching job.
Previously, you both said that he has 15 years of experience
from his playing days and understanding the intricacies
of what it takes to be a head coach.
Obviously, spent several years on the broadcasting side,
so he's familiar with today's game, the look and feel of it.
Coach and angle, Rashad, you said previously that he gets along
with the brothers in that, quote, niggas respect JJ.
Mm-hmm.
But do you think Redick can handle the pressure
of being the Lakers' head coach
as his very first NBA coaching job?
Yeah.
Did Darvin Ham handle it?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, Darvin Ham did handle it.
Yes, he did.
Handled it nicely, right?
Western Conference Finals.
Western Conference Finals, right.
Like, what do y'all want him to do?
Relax.
Huh?
Relax.
Bro, in two years.
What did Joe Mazzulla do?
Joe Mazzulla?
Joe Mazzulla was prepared to handle it nicely,
winning the championship in his second season,
but gifted a incredible fountain.
But gifted way more.
That media is very different from this media here.
If J.B. Bickerstaff and Jamal Mosley can go out there and be good coaches.
Bickerstaff also fired this off.
I see.
Now, you got –
Giving the opportunity with no experience is what I'm saying.
Just give it an opportunity.
You never did it before.
You know what I'm saying?
Y'all lasted a pretty substantial amount of time in the league so far.
I think JJ deserves
Oh for 20 and over 20 from the field and and and Ohio is very different old and Owen 20 in Los Angeles
Mm-hmm, right. That's just I mean the markets is so different
So when you say did he handle it did he handle the Westbrook shit, right? Nope, right?
He didn't know what the hell was going on in
The beginning of this season he didn't handle D'Lo right? He didn't know what the hell was going on then. The beginning of the
season, he didn't handle D'Lo right. He didn't handle us. So these players are complaining
like, we don't know what we're doing here.
Well, the players going to do that, right?
Right? No.
The players supposed to.
How many, how many, how many players have?
D'Lo was on the phone.
No, no, what I'm saying is.
He wasn't even there.
Yeah, that's the player thing. It's not a coach.
That's on that nigga.
That's the D'Lo.
The players got to show up and play, bro. Like, you on the phone doing the play. Man, you was never even there. Yeah, that's the player thing. That's on that nigga. The player's gotta show up and play, bro. Like, you on the phone
doing a play. Man, you was never even here.
What I'm saying is
I'm not here.
Okay, that's on you. You gotta lock in,
bro. I don't get paid to
get you locked in. You get paid to get yourself
locked in. What I'm saying is, what you
think is going on if I'm not
paying attention to this
dude no more? You gotta remember remember, you got to think way
back when Westbrook, right? They having
a, what's the name? They having a little huddle.
He over there on the bench, right?
The trust was lost.
Think about how much trust is lost
publicly from all the
players. We're talking about
all players. We're not just talking about a few.
Even Lemon Daddy had this,
you know, I don't know what coach is out here doing.
Like, so, he did not...
Because he playing. Ducking down. He playing.
Imagine if he getting that same question
asked and you sitting over there like Cam Reddish.
No, he was. No, he wasn't. He was
hooping. He was starting. No, he wasn't. He got
benched. Austin Rivers? Yeah. I mean, Austin
Reeves? Yeah. That's his name? He got benched.
And he voiced it. Nicknamed Lemon Daddy.
So then when did he start starting?
When did he when he started starting after that right? He's our voice in MPM dealer what I'm saying is you got I
Can get it from a star player, but you got role players coming out
You like voice in the opinion. I've never seen these everybody. Have you ever seen that before?
Yes, role players publicly coming out and talking about they don't know what's going on with
the coaching staff, we don't know about our playing time.
Yeah.
We don't know what to say.
As a role player, you're always confused about your playing time.
You always don't know what the coach is doing.
But you never had a mic to say it.
Right.
They complain, but they complain and still ain't doing shit, though.
Still ain't doing shit.
But I'm saying it's so hard.
When you're talking about handling, your whole team is in this raid.
Your whole team.
Yeah, because everybody want to play.
If you're dealing with a kid, you babysit, and you want to do this, this, this, and this, and this,
and then you really just want to go to sleep, take your ass to sleep instead.
Because your ass don't want to go play defense.
You don't want to drive.
You can't sit in the corner and make a shot. So what you want
me to do? Please everybody? Nah, man.
Who hooping?
Darvin like, man, who? I thought
we was hoopers. We supposed to be professional hoopers.
I put you in the game for 10 minutes
and you not hooping. I'm taking your ass out.
Now you mad because you not hooping?
We don't want to hear that shit, man.
Who? You out here? Throw the ball out.
I mean, they did. Y'all don't want to run plays. You complain. Okay, cool. I let You out here, throw the ball out. Y'all don't want to run
plays, you complain. Okay, cool. I let
you run, just throw the ball out. LeBron, get him going.
Can't do that either. Well, what the fuck you guys
want me to do? I'm not going to draw shit up on the motherfucking
board no more. I mean,
they do say it is hard to play LeBron.
So, that could be the issue, too.
Got to sit there and
throw it at the post. Who's fault is it really,
though? Huh?
Is it the coach's fault, really, or is it the players?
Like I said, it's all us.
Or who's making the decision, bringing the people in?
Coaching is more than just going up and down.
It's called ego management also.
That's part of your job.
That's why I'm saying, when you the president of something,
you ain't the president of just one thing.
You the president of all this shit. So you're the president of something, you ain't the president of just one thing. You the president of all this shit.
So you're the coaching of everything.
So I got to know how to talk to you.
Ah, damn, I didn't get you in the game.
Damn it, my bad.
You know what?
I'm going to get you in next game.
Like, you got to be able to talk.
Yeah, you got to be able to.
That's your job.
But next game, it might not happen.
That's like saying never watch a film.
Damn, I forgot. That's like watch a film. Damn, I forgot.
That's like never watching film.
Damn, I forgot about you, man.
You know what I mean?
Next game, put yourself in the game.
At the six-minute mark, next time, put yourself in the game.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes I get involved in the game so much, you know, I'd be...
So now you're going to have an issue with somebody else?
Who?
Hey, that's part of the job.
You talking to him more than you talk to me.
Why is he coming to get me?
He ain't played in the team. Why is he coming in? Part is part of the job. You talking to him more than you talk to me. Why is he coming to get me? He ain't played in the team.
Why is he coming to get me?
Part is part of the job.
If I'm telling you something, I got to reward you.
If I'm telling you to stay after two hours and I'm going to get you in and I never get you in, what do you do to me?
You turn on me so my word ain't bond.
So you got to understand how to communicate and feel delivered.
Okay, back.
Young fellas, stay ready.
What does that mean?
It means stay ready.
Stay ready.
Look at your contract.
Listen, you make this, you ain't playing this.
All right?
You got to fucking wait.
That's how you be fucking honest.
I ain't getting you in next.
You make this much.
Sit your ass over here and wait.
We can go down there and play in the G League.
Or you can wait your turn.
You can wait until I put you in.
Because I got an answer to him, and he said he got to play
because they paid him this much.
Stay ready.
So stay ready.
So if you have a meeting with me and ask me,
hey, what can I do to get on the court?
And I'd be like, all right.
And I'd give you an answer.
And I'd say, you got to take 300 shots a day.
You got to come in two hours before practice, stay out,
work with the film dude.
And you do all of that.
You did all of that, and I don't play you.
Who failed?
You or me?
But what's the reason
why he not playing you? It don't matter.
Well, who failed? It don't matter.
Well, you failed for telling me that
but I'm going to go back and look at the
contract. No, I ain't playing over this. It ain't got no contract.
I told you what you need
to do to get on this court. You did it. The only thing that didn't happen is I didn't playing on this. It ain't got no contract. I told you what you need to do to get on this court.
You did it.
The only thing that didn't happen is I didn't do my job.
Was get me on the court.
To get you on the...
My job was to say, if you do all this, I'm gonna get you on the court.
You did it all.
And I didn't.
Now, now I done lost you.
Because now you're like, what the fuck?
I did everything you told me to do. And you still didn't get me on the court.
Now I can't trust you, I don't want to play for you.
Now it don't even matter at that point.
You gave up on me.
So do you ask for a trade?
Most likely that person will.
You'll ask for a trade?
Most likely that person will.
Okay.
He gonna stop working hard, he gonna stop doing whatever.
I was told it was a man's league.
And when you get in these situations, you might not play.
Because there's a nigga getting paid more than you.
Then as a coach, shouldn't you relay that message then?
See, that's the problem is, if you relaying the message and doing something else,
then that becomes the issue.
That's always been the issue with us, right?
Because you can't please everybody.
But at some point, we all try to figure out what we need to do to get on the court, right? We all. And if you give me, if you, I'd rather,
it's easier to just say, hey, I have no time for you right now. This is my lineup. If somebody
gets hurt, maybe you can crack this lineup. But don't give me something to do. Don't give me a
checklist and I go check this motherfucker off. You're telling me
run five hours a day and I'm out there running six. And then you say, yeah, you know. So I'm not
going to give you a hypothetical. I'm going to give you a real scenario. I went through this
situation. Kevin McHale, hey, this was my fourth year, contract year. I'm out set 16 games, DMPs, no explanation.
The second leading scorer on the team.
Why am I sitting down?
Hey, Kev, what do I need to do to get on the court?
Hey, listen, Shadi, you know, guys are just playing well in front of you.
Right now, just stay ready.
Anything can happen, but right now they're just playing better.
We're getting in stride.
Granted, we're the second worst in the league. We're getting in stride. Granted, we're the second worst in the league.
We're catching our stride and we're playing
well. I was just like,
what? You sure you don't
want to use me at any point?
Tell me what I need to do. This is killing me.
Watching my team lose like this.
There's nothing I can do.
Just stay ready. Stay ready,
Shadi.
At one point, me staying ready, someone got hurt, someone was in foul trouble,
and he had to put me in.
Mm-hmm.
But that's the go-to line of nothing.
Stay ready. Stay ready.
Stay loyal to the game, bro.
What I'm saying is...
But what I'm saying is...
Stay loyal to the game. Just stay loyal to the game.
But what I'm saying is, you asked me what do, you ask me a question.
What do I need to do to play?
Stay ready is not an actual answer.
It is.
It means I don't know if I can put you in right now, young fella.
I don't know.
I don't know if I can put you in.
You're not telling me my flaws.
None of that.
You're not telling me, like, like, because there ain't no flaws.
You need to learn the planes. There's nothing. I just can telling me, like, because there ain't no flaws. You need to learn to play.
I just can't play you right now.
That's what I said.
Just stay ready.
Just stay ready.
All right.
Don't change what you're doing.
You're doing everything you need to do.
Just stay ready.
I just can't put you in right now.
Because of management or something upstairs?
Something happened.
I mean, that's why I said, like.
Isn't that better?
But wouldn't you rather hear that then?
Yeah, just stay ready, yeah.
Stay ready or just a...
But yeah, because of management, because of contracts,
that's what I'm saying.
Because of contracts, I got to play this dude real quick.
So just keep working the way you're working.
You can accept that.
Stay ready means nothing.
What does it mean in real life?
Keep grinding.
I mean, you got that shit on your face
and you ain't got a haircut in two months
and you really out there grinding.
You like, man, it's nasty. I ain't played in a month. Man, I'm out here working my ass off, man.
Listen, stay ready. It's the grind.
Stay ready is that same thing when we tell girls that like us. Yeah, just stay here. Just stay right here.
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, yeah, just, just.
When she asks you to get married?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it.
Yeah, yeah, just, just, just stay ready.
I'm going to do it. When? ready. I'm going to do it.
When?
When?
Yeah, just stay ready.
Just stay ready.
Just stay ready.
It's coming.
That's what that means.
That's what that means for new people in the NBA.
Don't trust the niggas at all, bro.
Don't trust nobody.
Hey, just don't worry.
Just stay ready.
Just stay ready, bro.
Come on, bro.
Like what?
Keep your motherfucking joints.
That's what stay ready means.
You got to make sure you, you know what I'm saying?
But that's what I'm saying.
As players, we know what we were told, and we know what we didn't like.
Right.
So to be a coach, you have to be better than the example that you didn't like, right?
So, you know what I mean?
You have to be better than the example that you didn't like, right? So, you know what I mean? You have to be honest.
Like, I guess the reason they do shit like that is they don't want the confrontation.
Non-confrontation.
They treat us like the word.
When you're creating it, though, you're creating it.
If you just tell the person, like, you think this is the first time we've been bitch For the first one is sometimes people but then he has to explain that to every single player that he does
And it's he wants a mass text. I'm sending this whole group text to everybody that this is the message
I'm not baby and you motherfucking niggas
I'm not coming to you telling you that you special you when I tell you to go in the game get your ass up go
In the game when I take your ass
out, sit your ass down there.
So wait a minute. So wait. So
you're saying the players
can tell their teammates
they ain't getting in the game ever.
You ain't getting the ball ever.
But the coach can't. What you mean?
How many times, I'm open.
I know you are.
I know you are, but it ain't your time, right?
How many times have we said it or heard it?
Player to player.
Player to player.
How many times have we said it or heard it?
Brennan, hey, get that shit off the glass, man.
I ain't paying it to you.
All right, well, you good.
You good.
You good.
I find you when I find you.
You good.
So we can say it to our teammates, and it's fine,
but you're telling me to coach kids.
Hey, coach, you ain't passing the ball.
Didn't I tell you last, get it off the glass?
He said get it off the glass.
Coach can definitely come tell you.
Better get some offensive rebounds.
Coach will definitely come tell you, hey, listen, don't shoot that bitch.
They'll tell you that, right?
Don't shoot that bitch tonight.
Move it, move it around.
They'll tell you that, but they can't tell you bitch tonight. Move it. Move it around. They'll tell you that, but they can't tell you
an honest answer when,
what can I do to get better?
Sometimes, coach, it's okay to say,
there ain't shit you can do to get better,
because ain't that a quicker way to lose them?
Ain't that a quicker way to lose them?
Ain't shit you can do.
Motherfucker, you need to work on that left hand,
because that shit trash.
There you go. Work on your fucking left hand,
because it's trash. Damn, go. Work on your fucking left hand because it's trash.
Damn, coach.
Your jump shot bag.
It's the same thing, ain't it?
See, that's what I'm saying.
Man, they don't want nobody coming out of the office like Ice Cube back in NWA.
Remember when we came with that bat?
Dude, Tony.
Nah, they don't want that.
Shit, the game is bread, Brian.
Shit, the game is bread.
You playing with the man.
That's what I'm saying.
Shit, the game is playing time.
That's why they say just stay ready.
Just stay ready.
Don't harm you. So Ice Cube is the player coming in there talking to the man. That's what I'm saying. She gave him playing time. That's why they say just stay ready. Just stay ready. Don't harm you.
So Ice Cube is the player coming in there talking to the coach.
Yeah.
Where the fuck is my playing time at?
Yeah, you told me I would.
All right.
And that's the thing, right?
I would take it out of my check.
Yeah.
Take it out of my check.
All right.
So a lot more in this J.J. Reddick situation.
According to Shams today in an article he wrote,
Reddick checks many of the boxes on the
Lakers' extensive checklist for their
next head coach. He's drawn internal
comparisons to a young Pat Riley as a
coaching prospect who jumped from playing
to the broadcast booth to the coaching chair.
The Los Angeles confident
he can be their version of Eric Spolstra
or Steve Kerr,
a culture setter who can grow with the franchise
for over a decade.
And I also have this staff from ESPN.
Redick is the sixth person to become a head coach without any experience,
as in coaching, since 2010.
He joined Steve Nash, Steve Kerr, Jason Kidd, Derek Fisher, Mark Jackson.
So are you buying that J.J. has the type of potential to be a coach similar to Spoh
and Steve Kerr, or will it be the other side?
Well, who's supposed to be Pat Riley?
That's what they're saying internally.
They look at him as a Pat Riley type potential
just in terms of his transitioning from player to broadcast booth to coach.
I'm just telling you, reporting the information as it is communicated to me.
Well, the difference between that is Pat Riley went into a championship team.
He did have a squad.
And then they ended up getting Magic Johnson and all that stuff.
And had three number one picks, you know, during a championship run.
So very different.
Thank you for that.
Is it the same of getting LeBron James and Anthony Davis?
No, you got a 39-year-old.
It's like Lakers getting
last year
Wimby.
Compared to the
three-peat shit that Pai Rowley got?
No, yeah, what I'm saying
is it's like
J.J. coming in last year,
the Lakers win the championship, they fire that
motherfucker, and then
on J.J.'s first year, they get goddamn Wimby. And then they win the championship, they fire that motherfucker, and then on J.J.'s first year, they get goddamn Wimby.
And then they win the championship,
and then they lose it the next year,
and then the very next year, they get James Worthy.
Right?
It was like, like, come on, guy.
You get Wimby, you get Wimby,
fucking number one pick while you still have young Matt, um, Kareem.
So are you saying that this Lakers roster is not comparable to the early Showtime era?
The greatest player of all time. He's all over show. Excuse me. They'll thrive me. Is he old? Oh, yeah, he's old. Oh
Great hair what about Anthony Davis though? He's aging. Is he a generational talent?
Huh?
Is Anthony Davis a generational talent?
Very good basketball player.
If they still calling him generational talent,
that means he ain't prove nothing yet.
He just paid, he just, 250.
Didn't he just get 250?
I think he got a three or 183-ish,
around about, extended.
Three, eight, you said three?
183, so like 60 a year.
183. 183.
Oh, you thought. You thought.
But yeah, AD just got paid all that money to be the guy.
I mean, for you to come in and get Brian AD, and they have to make a move to get something.
They have to get something nice.
It all depends on who they're getting.
But, I mean, he's coming into a playoff team, so that does benefit him.
He's coming into a veteran team. Seventh seed does benefit him. He's coming into a veteran team.
Seventh seed in the West.
Right, so it's...
They might make it next year.
Right, so, I mean...
Brandon, you've been down on L.A. all summer.
What I'm saying is, he...
Do you have faith in your city?
He has...
Don't show me love like that.
He gets to jump in the pool with his floaties on.
Yeah.
Right?
He gets to jump in the...
It's safer.
He gets to jump in the pool with his little floaties on.
You know what I mean?
He ain't going to drown.
Right?
You know, his first lesson, got little floaties, little thing around him too, so, you know.
I can say that. I can say that.
You know what I mean? You got the floaties and the motherfucker.
And the little...
With the lifeguard ready.
He got both, and these on here.
With the lifeguard and the vest.
You know when you're young, you have to have those.
Like, keep you up.
Don't jump in the pool, baby. Daddy. Little ass can't swim, but all the confidenceguard and defense. You have to have those things. Like, keep you up. Don't jump in the pool, baby.
Daddy.
Blue ass can't swim, but all the confidence in the world.
Look at them legs and shit.
I'm going to go to the deep end.
I am safe.
You safe out there.
She's got everything.
I'm not jumping in there for you, boy.
Uncle's got everything.
You should be able to float.
Swim on your back.
You remember that?
No, that's fat you'll swim on your back.
Swim on your back.
And it never worked. And it never worked.
So we asked the chat,
is JJ a good hire by the Lakers?
Nearly 9,000 votes. Shout-out to the chat.
Damn. Damn.
Very participatory today.
58% said yes. The chat seems to believe.
Just ask, wait, y'all ain't ask the chat
if I was right about JJ.
Shit, what the fuck is going on?
Can we ask the chat, is it obvious?
Yeah, shit.
These nigg No, I predicted
this in April.
So you were visionary,
wearing the crown, heavy as the head.
JJ. I think I'm coming back home this year.
I think I'm going to be a Laker fan this year. No, hell no.
Yes. No, no, no.
Come back home. No, no, no.
I'm trying to be L.A. now.
Welcome back. I'm trying to be L.A. now.
No. I'm trying to be L.A. now. No, no, no. It'm trying to be LA now. Welcome back. I'm trying to be LA now. No.
I'm trying to be LA now.
No, no, no.
Kendrick did not.
No, stay your ass over there with the-
It's Kendrick and friends.
Stay over your ass over there with Doc Rivers.
It's Kendrick and friends, nigga.
I know what you're trying to do.
Stay your ass over there with the Doc.
With the Doc.
No, no.
I'm going to-
Do another player under the bus.
Uh-huh.
Another.
I've never seen someone not take the spot.
Came in fat.
Wait, what happened here?
He came in fat. He said Dame came in fat. Dame came in fat. He said, Dame came in fat. Dame came in fat.
He was out of shape.
Wait, how would he know?
He wasn't-
Because Dame told him.
Because he was dead like I said he was dead.
Dame told him.
He was a consultant.
He was dead like I said.
Yeah, he came to-
They had a whole little conversation.
He's like, man, I'm fat.
No, he didn't.
He came there training.
He was there in training camp.
They told the whole shit.
He went on the podcast and told the story, bro.
I told you he was there in training camp.
He was dead.
Doc Rivers did say that name came in out of shape
This is the Dame told him he didn't work out all summer man. He told us in training camp
I tried to tell y'all he was in training camp nasty work man
So that's why I said you know one in the four you in there in training camp with the plays and you know your team
And you come out here this motherfucker 19 and stuff get the fuck out
Yeah, and then I know it And then at the end of the year
say he came in, like that was the reason
why they lost. You got to make up a narrative,
man. No, you can just shut the fuck up.
Because no one asked you.
No one cares.
What I'm saying is, we're like,
dog, we already looking at you sideways.
We already, we already,
already sitting here like,
how you get here?
So now you want to tell us about somebody.
What did you do in training camp?
Huh?
What was your preparation?
Were you in shape?
Was you mentally in shape when you came here in the season?
He was fighting.
He can't wait.
Another productive day.
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So we asked the chat, is it obvious?
76% say yes.
Thank you.
I love y'all.
The chat has come through.
Before we move on from this J.J. Redick-Lakers talk,
Gil, you were on the court for J.J. Redick's only career dunk.
Yeah, facts.
This is facts.
So would you mind telling us that story?
Damn.
I shot one of the only jumpers that I'm
allowed to shoot when I was in the
game. Because I noticed
like whenever I got hot,
I got subbed out.
So I stayed longer when I
didn't shoot and didn't
turn the ball over. Wait, what team was this?
Orlando. Okay. So like if I hit
three in a row,
if I didn't take no shots, I played so it was one of those times
That's corner boys
Realty if you get too hot with the guys in front of you is playing well
It prompts the coast of I have to leave you in but you take your ass out
Yes, but you wasn't shooting if I didn't shoot or didn't turn the ball over my stats was basically zero zero zero zero
I'm playing like six, seven minutes.
If I go in there in early three quick baskets...
Too much.
Too much sauce.
Doing too much.
I'm doing too much, Gilbert.
No, no, no, Gilbert.
I'm out of there.
Gilbert, you're doing way too much.
If I shot one of those jumpers, like, ah, shot that,
and then missed it, bounced to him,
he went down baseline, I think dunk't think so you were responsible for JJ
Yeah, like it was like it was like a off the rim pass
I'm not trying to make
Follow up to that question you know how they did like just like if you got hot I gotta come out the game
But you only out there so you have what nine points in seven there. So you have, what, nine points in seven minutes?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Maybe three minutes.
Three minutes.
Yeah.
Bong, bong, bong.
Bro, timeout.
They call it timeout on other teams.
Timeout.
There was a playoff series.
Get deal.
Get deal.
There was a playoff series.
I came in.
You know how you come in at the end?
Mm-hmm.
Like the end of the first half, right?
Score two buckets.
Boom, boom, boom.
I was second leading scorer on the team.
Didn't play.
Only played three minutes.
Bro, it's the serious thing, bro.
Because the reason was this.
It was a reason.
Like when I first got there, I was playing.
Okay.
And I was doing very well.
It was a nine-game winning streak, right?
And I was balling.
And then that question is who's gonna start
are you gonna start him yet between me and jameel nelson so one of those conflict of interest this
is guy and i don't think he wanted that to make any type of decision so anytime i got the really
going sub them out yeah already made right so unless so the only time i really got minutes
is if somebody was actually injured yeah so if you if you go back and look at, like, after, like, the first, like, 20 games and moving forward,
any time I had, like, 20-something, the starting shooting guard or the second shooting guard was gone.
Yep.
So, like, Jason Richardson got suspended or he didn't play, right?
So he had to play me.
Dub.
So imagine how many dubs.
Playoff game, J. Rich got suspended for him and Zaza Batrulia. play, right? So he had to play me. Dub. So imagine how many dubs.
Playoff game, J. Rich got suspended for him and Zaza Betrullia, so he got to play me. Dub.
Yep.
Scored 20, I guess, next game played four, five minutes.
Your value go up. The more your value go up when you in the game with another nigga not, they got to look at you like, we don't want to make a decision.
Did y'all get that dunk?
Yeah, but see, that's why they have to tell you you like, we don't want to make a decision. Did y'all get that dunk? Yeah, but see? We are located with the dunk.
That's why they have to tell you.
Oh, this is a playoff, too.
See, yeah, you see like that?
Oh, don't worry, pass it to J.
Oh, this is in the playoffs.
You got to make that, yeah.
I know.
Agent one.
I might have had 20 this game.
But you were still cooking back then.
You were still cooking with this one right here.
This Gilbert was still cooking.
I remember this thing.
I remember this thing.
I remember you cooking.
No, I'm being honest.
You were still cooking.
I'm being honest.
He broke.
No, man, he broke me.
Before this or after this?
This is the playoffs.
So before this?
Huh?
Before this, you was already thinking twice and all that shit?
Yeah, yeah.
I could see.
Because here, let me see.
Because it was one of those things where I come in for a minute, come out.
That's why we said, stay ready.
That's why they're going to tell you to stay ready.
But that's the old school coach with the prime talent.
He didn't know how to mitigate, how to use them.
So he was clashing.
You can't pull Gilbert Arenas in and out of the game
when he still got talent to give you 20.
So like if a player was missing,
like I'm playing like 16 minutes, 20 minutes,
somebody not playing, 43 minutes, 45 minutes. 20 minutes. Somebody not playing, 43 minutes. Damn. 45 minutes.
Heavy minutes.
Yep.
Yep.
But you taking a lot of shots, too?
Hell yeah.
You can't sell me out.
Nine for 14.
You couldn't take me out then.
So the other minutes you thinking twice because you're like, man, I don't know.
I don't know what he on today.
Like my first game against Atlanta, I was second leading scorer with six.
Second leading scorer?
Second leading scorer behind Dwight Howard with six points.
Off the bench?
Off the bench.
Next game, six minutes, one shot.
Didn't play game three.
Game four, Jay Rich.
Went down?
Yeah, Jay Rich got suspended.
I had 20.
Damn.
I believe that was, the dunk was in game six.
Game six.
18 minutes.
I played 18 minutes.
Damn, 20 points.
An important six points.
Getting to it.
Getting to it.
So speaking of JJ, at one point in his career,
he was unknowingly in a one-sided beef with the greatest Laker of all time.
So during a recent episode of his 7 p.m. in Brooklyn show,
Melo broke down how Kobe went at Redick during Team USA trials back in 2008 and the motivation behind it.
And I remember Cole couldn't stand J.J. Redick.
So he come into practice.
I hope somebody vouchs for me on this story.
And if anybody was on that, they know.
You know, people know.
They might have their own record, but people know.
The moral of the story is,
Kobe took it personal against J.J. Redick in practice
because he got tired of Coach K
kept talking about J.J. Redick, right?
Kobe took it very, very personal to the point
where he was running through screens in practice.
He was denying J.J. the ball.
He was fouling the out of J.J.
I'm like, damn, why you treating a young boy like that?
I'm like, what's the problem?
That's exactly how he was.
What's the problem?
Coach K keep talking about this.
He come up here to do something.
this.
I'm going to show you today.
This let JJ ready to score, bro.
Facts, nigga.
I'm going to play that shit.
I'm going to play that shit. Rest in peace, Bean. Rest in peace, nigga. I'm gonna play that shit. I'm gonna play that shit.
Rest in peace, Bean. Rest in peace, mentality.
That is that Mamba mentality.
You them country boys. Nothing.
So, bring me to my question.
Did you ever have a personal beef with a player
that they didn't know about?
Or anybody you weren't rocking with,
but they didn't even know it?
That you can share on this show?
I don't want to create any situation for you guys.
I mean, mine was...
I mean, mine was... I have to say it publicly.
Mine was J. Will.
It was J. Will because at the end of my rookie season,
when I finished, I started, you know, rookie...
got rookie of the month, you know, was, you know, balled out the, you know, last, you know, month and a half of the season.
So I'm thinking, you know, coming to the next season, I'm going to be a starter.
And they basically said, you know, they're hoping to get the number two pick so they can get Jason Williams.
Right. And then, you know, like, so is he going to be starting?
Like, yeah, he's going to be number two pick in the NBA draft.
So I'm sitting there like, but what if he can't beat me out?
He's the number two pick in the NBA draft.
You're going to be worth $200,000, $300,000.
You're going to be the backup.
And that there fueled me to just stay in Oakland and just train.
And just train, be there, show them, you know, it's about to be war.
Right? So,
when they didn't draft
him, and we played against Chicago,
I think that first game
I had a double-double on him, but I was
going at his head.
And I remember he asked Dunley,
yo, is he mad at me?
But that's how
angry I was. Like, this is... Is he mad at me? But that's how angry I was.
Like, this is...
Is he mad at you?
Like, I just...
You know what time it is, dog.
No, but think about it.
If another player sensed it,
you know I was on demon time.
No, for sure.
No, for sure, for sure.
Right?
You know, I was on like, yo...
When we were watching,
he was like,
he's not fucking...
Yeah, like, he was like,
yo, what's wrong with him?
He's not like that.
Certain moves, certain, like, after a shot, it's like, oh, he don't... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, give me the ball. Like you're always wrong with me
Certains like after a shot it's like oh
Like you had nothing to do with him I don't know him personally
But just the thought it was just that thought that that they put in my head that if he did come here
I just automatically put on the bench and I'm like, nah, that's not how we it's not how we get down Rashad
Did you ever have a personal beef with a player they didn't know about?
Nah.
You rocked on everybody?
I did.
I didn't have no problems with nobody.
Whoever had problems with me, that's when they got problems.
I didn't really have nobody that I needed to attack that I looked at and was like,
I don't like this nigga because of that.
Nah.
I just felt like everybody was dog food.
Everybody was dog food to me. It didn't matter.
Cemetery Larry. Man, I'm trying to kill everybody.
No friends. Brandy, did you ever have a personal beef with a player they didn't know about?
Personal?
We know it. We heard it. We heard it. We heard it.
We heard it already.
But other than that, though, nah, like Rashad said.
We got new subscribers, though.
They want to hear who it is.
This is from last year.
We have grown substantially.
Yeah, they need to hear it.
Come on, man.
We could be in Vegas. No, they need to hear it. We have grown since... Come on, man. We gonna be in Vegas. No, no. They need to hear it, nigga.
Brandon, man of God, bringing his Laker...
A man of God?
Bringing his Laker loyalty back.
Man of God.
Returning home.
Nasty word.
Who is it?
What?
Who is it?
Oh, what?
Chris Paul?
Yeah.
All the new subs of the show, y'all gotta go back.
You said Chris Paul?
Is that what you said?
Chris Paul?
Chris Paul.
But that makes sense, you know, with Kobe is
you're bigging up someone who's not even,
not even one good enough to be on this team.
I think a second year player at that point.
I mean, you're not good enough to be on this team
and the fact that you put him on a team
and then you're using him as a standard or something.
Right?
You know what I mean?
Like, think about it.
It's Kobe fucking Bryan.
08. And you over here
talking about, what, JJ's work ethic, how
great JJ was. The fuck you...
08, Kobe.
I'm talking about...
You didn't say, like, Michael Jordan,
goddammit. You said JJ. Really?
I can see how that can personally
piss somebody off.
Yeah. Right? So the fact that he got to show you as a coach
how we're not even on the same planet.
He's not even going to score.
He's not going to score.
He's not going to touch the ball.
Just to prove a point,
to show you he's not even on this level yet
and probably would never be on this level.
It's important. And that happens too.
I mean, sometimes you got to pop out and show niggas.
Hey, you know, hey, hey, no, no, you know,
man, you was talking about like competition.
Not really like a personal, but it was,
he always had like a side eye, Tariq Evans.
Like Tariq Evans was like,
because we came out of high school together,
like one and two, like one and one neck.
And then I remember he got like the McDonald's All-American game MVP
and then he got rookie of the year.
Like that shit used to just piss me off.
You had like 10 or 12 assists in that game, in that McDonald's game?
Yeah.
But you were still dapping him up though?
Yeah, no, for sure, for sure.
But you didn't really fuck with him?
No, no, no, no, no.
Stop moving him?
No, no, no.
No, I did fuck with him.
It was just that he was just.
You didn't stop doing that.
That's a different one though.
That's competition. Yeah, yeah. Like it was competition. It was just that he was just... You just start doing that. Like, he... That's a different one, though. That's competition.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it was competition.
It was just one of them, like,
but it was still just like,
nah, like, he pushed me, though.
Yeah, that's a different one.
It was more like pushing.
The ones that we really get irritated
is when a coach or someone else
is bigging up somebody else.
Yeah.
I guess I'm lying then.
I'm lying then.
Yeah.
I'm lying.
Thank you, Rashad.
Damn.
What's the nigga name?
What's the nigga name?
LeBron James?
That, man, I forgot.
I don't know how.
I forgot.
I don't know how.
I wasn't thinking, man.
Yeah, but it's all how personal be.
Man, it wasn't personal.
That's the whole story.
Oh, just competition.
When you see a nigga, you just automatically frown up.
You just see a nigga, you automatically
smell different in here.
What the fuck this nigga doing in here?
Man.
You guys cross paths.
Why y'all want to talk about this nigga all the time?
But no, but listen, listen.
Fuck that nigga.
That, what would be funny as our whole chat will say,
Dan, that's petty or bum, bum, bum, ego.
And then you ask them why you don't like, let's say, Drake,
or why you don't like Kendrick.
They've never met this person personally, but they don't like him.
Right?
And that's just human nature.
We find a reason why
We don't Mess with people it don't matter
But a lot of it is what our competition though. That's why cuz we want to
Are just not like yo, I hate him. I want you see it's more awesome. I don't say this name so much man
I don't like the way right dress on like the way you walk on the way you talk
Yeah his name so much. Man, I don't like the way you dress. I don't like the way you walk. I don't like the way you talk. Yeah, like, ours is more like
we want to be the best
at what we do.
Like, ours is like,
that's why we be having, like,
we be irritated.
No, I wouldn't.
Like, to me,
I would rather not pick anyone
other than LeBron to be,
like, if you're the nigga that,
you're the nigga that's like,
get my competitive,
like, I want to fucking, like,
play right now.
Let's hoop right now. Okay, so that's a different one then. Yeah, that's a different one then yeah that's what i'm saying like that nigga made me
want to hoop like man fuck that nigga man nah nah i'm on nah straight to the gym what's up
but that's a difference see but you're punching you're punching up punching up always you're
punching up ain't no reason to punch at my level or below because i feel like if I can fight this thing and beat him, that's the boss.
If I beat the boss, who are you? I'm the boss now. I don't want to fight none of you niggas below the
boss. I want to fight the boss all the time. Kobe, man, don't put no kid in front of me.
Don't put no kid in front of me, man. Because you're the boss. You're the boss.
You over here trying to, you know what I mean? That's why you ain't been invited last week to
the game, man. I had to beat on the sun. I know. I know. I had to beat you know what I mean? That's why you ain't been invited last week to the game. I know, man.
I had to beat on his son.
I know.
I know.
I had to beat his son.
I was thinking in the back.
I'm like, you had to beat his ass.
I took the trophy home.
You had to beat his, because you know you can beat him.
Yeah, I want to beat, I want to punch down.
You know, watch out.
I got to give him the skills.
I got it.
I'm like, oh, man.
I'm going to beat this nigga Brandon.
I'm going to put this little man in front on the same level.
This is my trophy now, nigga. I ain't going to front, man. We'll beat this nigga Brandon. We'll put this little man in front on the same level. This is my trophy now, nigga.
I ain't gonna front, man.
My son went home mad.
Hell, yeah.
I had to check.
Hey.
Yeah, bro went home crying.
He was like low-key crying.
Hell, yeah.
I'm like, bro, chill out.
You're a little crazy.
I'm like, bro, chill out, bro.
Game up.
Game up.
It's a game up.
Don't come over here thinking you're going to get some wins.
I might not be first place, but I'm fighting for second right now.
For JJ? Look at y'all.
Yep. And for me, coming back for the Lakers.
Coming back for the Lakers.
Don't let you jump, man.
I need to start getting some more L.A. love.
Kendrick, man. Kendrick and friends for the pop out, man.
For the pop out, pop out, pop out, pop out.
Yo, I'm a Valley boy now.
You know, we don't get the L.A. love like that no more.
Very good. Very good region.
My sister from the Jew League to Watts.
Hold on.
Is that more gentlemen's?
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Damn, Ant-
Antsna?
They've had enough. Cut them off.
What the fuck was that?
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, I do the same signal girls do at the club
when dudes trying to buy them drinks, right? Give me try to bottom drink right give me the coca-cola
You meet a coca-cola
You got vodka you got Patron put water in there and I can
Ask different stuff got that 90 proof God always acting crazy last year in Vegas. Oh, you know You know, hey, I used to... That shit knocked my glasses. That shit knocked my glasses to the left.
That shit knocked my glasses to the left.
Goddamn!
I used to take the shot and spit it back in the...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I used to do the same shit to the Sprite bottle.
Ooh, crazy!
Ooh, Lord.
That get me drunk at night.
I used to do the same shit.
Learn something new every single day on the arena.
I'm like, damn, G, you alcoholic?
I ain't...
So, seventh shot. Crazy as hell. I took one shot, do the same thing. Learn something new every single day on the new arena. I'm like, damn, you alcoholic. I'm so seven shot.
Crazy as hell.
I took one shot.
Everything else was worn.
I was just pretending for y'all.
Let's keep it moving.
So, Shaw, you talked about LeBron.
I can see whatever I'm wearing.
He'll just drink.
He'll just drink.
You used to do that.
He'll just sing.
He's talking crazy to everybody.
He's just lit.
Don't even worry about it.
Talking about LeBron, J.J. Redick will be the next Lakers head coach for your deal.
Draft is less than a week away,
and one of the most interesting storylines to monitor
is which team will end up drafting Bronny.
So far, Bronny's only worked out for the Lakers and Suns,
despite numerous other teams inviting him to do pre-draft workouts.
There's been plenty of speculation that teams will try to draft Bronny
in an attempt to persuade LeBron to leave the Lakers,
with the four-time MVP expected to opt out of the final year of his deal.
So in a recent interview with ESPN, LeBron and Bronny's agent Rich Paul
addressed some of the speculation surrounding Bronny's draft status
and LeBron's desire to play with his eldest son in the league, saying,
quote, LeBron is off this idea of having to play with Bronny.
If he does, he does.
But if he doesn't, he doesn't.
There's no deal made that is guaranteed that if the Lakers draft Bronny at 55,
LeBron will resign.
If that was the case, I would force him to take him at 17.
We don't need leverage.
The Lakers can draft Bronny and LeBron doesn't resign.
LeBron is also not going to Phoenix for a minimum deal.
We can squash that now.
There were some reports that the Suns may try to grab him a minimum deal. We can squash that now.
There were some reports that the Suns may try to grab him.
Really?
They don't have no bread.
Grab the Sun?
Grab Bronny to make money.
That would be nasty anyway if LeBron... LeBron, just stay right here, man.
But Paul also said that the Wolves, Mavs, and Raptors
are interested in drafting Bronny
depending on how the draft shakes out.
He said who?
The Wolves, Mavs, and Raptors.
Wolves, Mavs, Raptors.
Wolves, yes.
Because he can do what Conley does in the sense of play D,
get the ball to Ant-Man, hit an open shot, right?
You don't have to be traditional point, right?
And very athletic guard, so that can work.
You know, let him get molded.
Toronto, that's not happening.
Masai Ujiri not rocking with us?
He's not going out.
He's not going out of this.
Well, in light of Juneteenth, may not be safe for him.
And what else?
What was the last one? The Mavs. No. You don't
think he need to work out with more teams? No, I'm just saying the Mavs, you got Kyrie
over there, you got Hardy over there, you got so many young guys that... He's not going
to play the first two years. I know. It's cool. He'd feel Teran go against Josh Green
for that spot.
Josh Green is really there in front of Hardy.
Wait, what do you mean he's not going to play the first?
Wait, you don't think he's going to touch the NBA court at all?
Who, Bronny?
Yeah, his first year.
Depends on the team.
Nah.
I think that that's what they're expecting.
That's why they don't want to do a two-way contract,
because they're going to send him down there anyway.
Listen, Bronny James Jr. will be touching the NBA floor this year.
I would never.
I mean, as an organization.
Is he better than Imani Bates?
No.
Different talent.
So why would Imani Bates not see the floor at all?
Because, no, no, no.
Because they stupid.
That's different.
Every team in the NBA would have took the same approach with that situation
just because of the history and all that dumb shit. It's dumb.
We agree it's dumb. Yeah, Imani Bates got game.
But Bronny is not close
to Imani as far as that type of game
and never seen before. But you
can't use that because
you know, just Cleveland Cavaliers
is just...
What I'm saying is they're
ignorant of what
talent is.
You're talking about a Gatorade player of the year.
He showed you in training camp.
He showed you in preseason what he's capable of.
He's a high-level type of scorer that you can't teach.
We brought in two guys that are already under contract,
Ning and Max Struess.
Both came in, and then Okoro was supposed to have that spot
that they drafted Bates into.
They was trying to work Okoro in already.
So the spot that he was trying to get,
they bring in two more motherfuckers in his same position
and pushed him all the way down.
My same position, what, 6'9"?
2'3".
6'9", 2'3", versus this fucking 6'3", non-athletic.
A 4'0", 6'5".
I think Struess and Naing, whatever his name is, I think they like 6'6".
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So I'm keeping, what I'm saying is.
Ning, Ning, ling, ling.
What I'm saying is I'm keeping people...
I'm keeping talents on my team
that's not actually part of the future.
Like these guys.
So I would have never sent him to the G League to do what?
You're talking about Bates, right?
Bates.
To get trained by who?
Exactly.
To get some playing time?
Fuck playing time.
I want to keep him under this un...
Like, my talent is staying in house.
He needs to learn my way.
Him going down there playing,
playing and learning these horrible habits,
and then come here.
Then I got to break those habits,
then teach him...
I'd rather sit him here.
We can do film, work ethic,
get his game, get his timing, right?
If he's a volume shooter, I can make him a more accurate shooter here,
not somewhere where he takes a Greyhound bus.
So is the G League a development league for the NBA or just a middleman?
No, no.
It's just horrible.
That's why they're not going to do the two-way deal with Bronny.
They're like, we're not sending you down there with them
when you could just
train for a team.
I'm going to play
in the G League right now.
And be around the team.
I don't know.
Rich Paul said Bronny
is not signing a two-way
deal under any circumstances.
He's not going to sign.
He's not.
But that's taking away
from them being able
to send him down there
right away.
So if he's going to be there,
any team he's going to be on,
he's going to be with
that team for two years
not playing.
It's going to be a strictly development deal
It all depends it all depends are you we we can we can project what we think is gonna happen
but you know I mean between
his
His the last game we've seen him and now two different people of course, right?
So, you know the kids sit and he goes Jim at eight and leaves at three who he's gonna play over on any team but what i'm saying is but think
about it from if he's sitting there eight to three every single day he has not missed a day of working
out right the body's different the mind is different so what happens is when this person
goes in a training camp we don't we don't know what he's going to be. Right?
We've seen some people that we thought was trash, and then they get into the NBA and
be like, damn, how's he playing?
But the one thing we do know is he's not going to have experience.
He can be excelled in his skill set.
He can be excelled in working out and being in condition.
But the one thing we know about you is you don't know enough about the game to come in and make an
impact because you don't have any experience.
All we can tell is when
preseason starts.
Or Summer League.
Summer League.
It's going to give us a good test.
It'll be a good test.
First of all, they're not having Vegas or Summer
League without Bronny. They have to.
What? They have to. They have to what? To have Summer league without Bronny. They have to. What?
They have to.
They have to what?
To have summer league for Bronny.
What team?
No, I'm not saying.
Yeah, it's going to be cracking.
We might have to actually go to some games.
Do you know who else is going to summer league?
No, for sure.
Gil Zarina presented by 100 Dog Fantasy.
We will be live for summer league in Vegas. So this is the third straight summer league that's going to be lit because
Well, you know it's only one week.
Wimby was there.
Wimby's not going there.
No, I'm just saying from last year,
it was lit from Wimby, right?
So Bronny's going to have it lit
because we got to go see Bronny play.
Well, Bronny, and then you got the USA team
that's playing.
They'll be training.
Edie going to play.
When do they leave to go to?
Right after Vegas.
Right after Vegas.
Vegas is usually going at the same time as Summer League. Yeah.
That's what I said. This year is going to be epic
today. It's going to be epic this year.
Down here in the draft, but we will have it turned up regardless.
So when you said Phoenix Suns,
is it Phoenix Suns at 22
pick? Yeah.
Which pick is, when we're talking about, like, when you
say... 17 Lakers.
So 17 Lakers. I think
what Rich is saying, it could be first round,
second round. I don't think
he's saying second round at all.
I don't think he's looking at Bronny going second round.
But he's saying if Bronny doesn't get picked,
he knows that the Mavs could potentially take him.
Take him at 58?
That's their first opening for that?
The last pick of the draft?
Okay, I'm going to just be honest. If you're trying
to get your, if you're trying to get Bronny signed, he is not going the last pick of the draft? Okay, I'm going to just be honest. If you're trying to get your – if you're trying to get Bronny signed,
he is not going to the last pick of the draft.
No.
All right, he's going to go to the Lakers at 55.
Yeah, Phoenix only has one pick at 22nd.
Yeah, so Phoenix is – so you're talking about a guy who's thinking about
getting picked, what, 17, 22, then you're throwing out 55 and 58?
Teddy could go out –
My question is, who's available before
Bronny that you could potentially
pick that you're not picking
for promo,
marketing, or trying to get LeBron?
Who can you actually pick before Bronny
that's at 17?
That's what I'm saying. 17 and Lakers,
if you don't got 16 other
guys that you would pick in front of him, you pick him.
That's what I'm saying. Show me 16. Show me the draft. They said the draft was weak. Him going 55, I don't got 16 other guys that you would pick in front of him, you pick him. And that's what I'm saying. Show me 16.
I mean, show me the draft.
They said the draft was weak.
So him going 55, I don't see that.
Nah.
Like, I think it's going to be way earlier than that
than what people think.
Let me see.
Because I don't, I mean, show me like 16, 17 guys
that's better than him in the draft.
Let me see who they got at 17.
Like, I know what they showing, but show me the guys.
You got to show me the guys.
I don't even know the top five picks right now.
Edie not going lottery.
Klingon has been mentioned in that mix.
We don't even know the top five picks.
It's a weak draft.
Is the big boy from Duke out?
Did he come out, the big boy?
Who?
I don't think he came out.
Klemenski or some shit like that.
Filipowski.
Let me look at the mock draft right now.
Yeah, look at that mock.
Like me, I'm going by, you know, I'm going by,
at that point, you're talking about age.
You're talking about guys that are... One or two year removed.
One, two, they got that six...
They're not proven.
They got six, six, six, nine, long, lanky type of players.
Not proven, though.
That's the one thing that you don't get.
They won two years removed from college.
They didn't really dominate.
These are all guys jumping out like, all right, I feel like I got a chance.
These ain't proven guys.
These ain't guys that we know we can just draft him and he going to give us this.
Even a kid from UConn, a Castle kid.
He got great potential, but he ain't no dominant player.
I don't think nobody is.
No, what I'm saying is when you're talking about dominant players.
Big kid from Tennessee, I like him.
White boy.
Neck, whatever it is.
Yeah, he's dominant.
Like dominant, but when you're talking about the first draft picks,
think about the teams, right?
Yep.
Those teams.
Young teams.
Those teams are just young, right?
So you're trying to figure out
how to add to it
and get a young star.
That's the bad part
about the old league.
And that's what people
don't understand.
Damn.
We're talking about getting a,
a Zach, was it Zach Eady?
Yeah.
You're putting him on,
he's going to be the oldest dude
on a team,
on a team that's going to just,
he's going to be the least experienced, but he's going to be the oldest player. a team on a team that's gonna just he's gonna be the the
least experienced but he's gonna be the oldest player they're not gonna respect him yeah right
either if he went to if he went to a younger team yeah so he has to go to a veteran he definitely
does right so now when you're talking about now you're talking about teens the 20s yep right so
you know that's miami you're talking about a Miami type of team. It's like when Wiseman went to the Warriors,
young player on an older team doesn't fit
because it doesn't cater around him.
He goes to a younger team, he fits right in.
He gets the ball all the time.
Now, what Rich said was important to that draft pick.
What ended up happening is
a team got hurt the whole year.
It's like the San Antonio Spurs
when they got Duncan.
A great team got hurt
and fell into the lottery.
Right?
They get the number two pick in the draft,
but everybody's coming back.
Yep.
So if you are projected number two,
you got to really say,
this is not the team I want to go on.
Thanks.
Because you're not getting no burn.
You're not getting no burn on this team, Okafor and Detroit.
I don't want to go on a team where you got damn near Hall of Famers
at the same position.
Where do I play?
Oka, not Mimic, what was his name?
Mimic O'Corey.
Militia, Darko?
Darko, yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
Darko.
If Dwayne Wade went there,
he's sitting behind Rip.
Yeah.
If when people say,
if we would have had Mello,
Mello splitting time.
With Tayshaun.
With Tayshaun.
It was a defense.
For sure.
It was a defense mindset on that team at that time.
So Melo, all offense, wouldn't have worked for them.
So when people say, who would have had Melo?
Over time, he would have took him.
Now, over time, he's a whole different person. Because they know how to protect him, too.
Not as selfish, and it's not in him.
Yeah, no, for sure.
So now he doesn't become this really elite scorer because he's built a team.
But in his pocket, he would still be Melo in his pocket,
but he would have protection defensively.
Because remember, Melo came from zone defense.
He wasn't playing no defense.
So he comes into a defensive team where he don't got to play,
I could just go get Bucky.
No, that's not how Wilson is.
After a while, I think after a while he starts, but like you're saying,
they're not going to make him the focal point of the offense,
but he'll be a better Tayshaun Prince, a better shot maker,
a creator, a driver.
They didn't never have that.
Detroit never had a driver, a slasher,
somebody who can play in the post
and do that shit. Chris Bosh,
they all
become, because the
team already is structured like
that. So when you're talking about the NBA
draft and you're a young kid, it's not
always about where you
go. I mean, it's not about
where you go.
It's where you go.
Like even people don't even see this loophole
that Boston did, right? You know how
they have this thing with Jason Tatum and
Jalen Brown? You got Philly,
Lakers, Boston,
right? And Boston on the third pick, they got Jalen and Tat you got Philly, Lakers, Boston, right?
And Boston, on the third pick, they got Jalen and Tatum, right?
And then it showed that the number one pick, both those end up being kind of like busts. Not really, because Ben Simmons is not a bust, right?
People don't realize Tatum was going to Boston no matter what.
Boston had the number one pick in that draft.
Tatum was the guy they wanted.
Right?
So what they did was they just tricked Philly and said,
hey, we'll give you the number one pick since you guys want Agar,
you want Fultz.
Right?
So give us something, we'll give you the number one pick
because Fultz might go to Lakers at two.
Yeah.
Right?
So I trade it because I know you guys can't draft Tatum
because one, one of you guys got Ben Simmons already,
so you're not picking him, you're picking a guard.
Lakers, you already have Ingram, so you need a guard,
so you're not picking Tatum.
So no matter what I do, I'm going to get Tatum.
I'm going to get the guy I want.
So I'll give you this pick and trick you,
give me some of these other draft picks later on
And that's what that's what Boston did get the same player think about Boston's team before Kyrie and what that looked like
Well, I T and the IT years they still had draft picks from the the Kevin Garnett trade
Yeah, the Kevin Garnett trade gave them future. That's what gave them. Yeah, those two those two picks
Yeah, but that's I said that draft pick was number one.
And all they did was just manipulate Philly out of,
you know, they just manipulate Philly out of some stuff.
We can't say they was tanking to get it,
but I think that just their losing skid that they had
after they won the championship,
up until they got Tatum,
was like, all right, you didn't expect to get IT.
I don't know if that was a trade for them,
but that was something that was a surprise.
Because IT wasn't that guy until he got there.
No, IT was no different than a Brunson.
Yeah, coming out of nowhere.
You know he's good, but he's not in our plans.
And then he goes over there, and then it's like, oh, shit.
I got all the pieces I need for me to be balling.
In fact, yeah.
Brandon, what were you going to say?
Yo, we were talking about Melo, right?
Melo getting drafted to Detroit.
Do we look at Melo's career differently
or...
Okay, if Melo goes to
Detroit Pistons,
does he become a better player than LeBron James?
No.
Why? Because...
Or is the resume...
Because he will not have the resume that he has now.
Do we still want him to win the championship?
He has a championship.
The 2004 championship still has him?
He has a champion.
We can say the way that team was built, you add his talent coming off the bench as a six-man,
maybe playing 20, 25 minutes on that team, he becomes a champion.
Okay. Right? So he he becomes a champion, right?
So he will have a championship,
but he's not leading the league in scoring
and doing all those first team stuff
because he has four bona fide players
that sacrifice for each other.
But at what year does he excel past the Detroit Pistons?
Remember, the Detroit Pistons disintegrated about 07.
So after 07, it's going to be Melo's team.
So from 07 to 2015, we're looking at a whole different Detroit Melo.
But what I'm saying is now, think about it like this.
We don't know if they break up with, you have a young
star in there, right?
Because they broke up
without one. But now you don't make the
trade to Denver. For Chauncey
and AI. You don't make
those trades. Because you don't need it. Because you don't need
it because you already have the components
so the team, it looks different. But let's say they do get
traded, right? Now you have
Melo who's already a champion,
probably not an all-NBA player yet.
Now he's going to play selfish basketball.
Now he gets to be Melo within his fourth year, fifth year now,
trying to be Melo as a rookie.
Or does this catapult Melo to winning multiple championships
within the same dynamic where he won in 04,
we win in 06, we win in 07.
I got three championships and I'm mellow now.
But you're not mellow.
You're not mellow.
I'm not that mellow.
I'm not that mellow.
I'm Tony Parker Ginobili type mellow where I got four championships.
I'm averaging about 20, 21 a game. No.
No, for sure. No. What do you mean no? For sure'm averaging about 20, 21 a game. No, for sure.
What do you mean no?
20, 21? No.
What do you mean? With no rip?
No rip? No Tayshaun?
You're getting rid of them now.
They're going to pass on because they passed on at that point.
If you're trying to win four championships,
you're talking about the same structure of the team.
We won at that point. Because they don't leave
any, but if you're moving them, that means your team is bad.
Well, let's say we kept them.
We kept them until about 09.
We win at 04.
We keep them for another five years.
We win two more in that time frame.
You got three championships.
And I'm only averaging 20 a game.
You're not only 15, 17, that's all.
But I'm mellow. You're not mellow. Yeah, I am.
And my skill set, my stats
are not mellow. My Denver stats
are not mellow. My skill set
is still mine.
You're probably way...
Mellow at 20 a game, three championships.
You're Ginobili or Tony Parker.
No.
Not Carmelo Anthony. And he's getting finals MVP. You're not even... or Tony Parker. No, not Carmelo Anthony.
And he getting finals MVP.
You're thinking about Carmelo Anthony.
And he getting finals MVP.
You're not even, no, you don't.
What do you mean?
Because you're not the focal point of offense.
But I'm mellow and we surpassed the old guys.
Tauncey and Rhea is their team.
We get it.
What I'm saying is you're trying to take his skill set that was created.
No. No, Gil. You're trying to take his skill set that was created. No.
No deal.
You're changing it.
What I'm saying is you're trying to take him averaging 20 in an offense that was called, you're spreading it.
It was an offense for them.
The three man wasn't even a part of this offense, right?
So they have to create some type of plays for him. Other than that, you're trying to take his one-on-one style
that he developed there because it was his team by himself.
So now we need to one-on-one ice with this is what he's good at.
Here he has to learn how to play Detroit basketball.
Which is what?
Which is coming off screens, hitting shots.
Rip averaged 20 a game, bro.
This is Melo inserting himself
as Richard Hamilton now.
I can come off pin down.
I can pop back.
He's Richard Hamilton.
This is for the shooting.
The three-man was not a part
of that coach's flip Saunders offense.
But it would have been.
But it would have been.
Larry Brown.
It was.
Tayshaun had ice holes in the post, bro.
They used to drop it to Tayshaun for the mismatch.
He's 6'9".
He's not averaging 20.
You're trying to give him 20.
So it's between Rip and Tayshaun.
He gets those minutes, right?
He's going to get 20 from those two.
You don't even have the time to score 20, but that's what I'm saying.
Even if you're trying to give him 20, dog,
you're trying to talk 20 with 30 minutes at most back then
in an offense that was spread.
But he's now starting now. But he's now starting now.
But he's now starting.
He's no longer.
Then my, because Coach loves Prince.
Prince is still playing 20-something minutes.
But he's no, the starter and the focal point now
that we won the 0-4 championship.
We won it.
That was y'all's shit.
I'm mellow.
I'm here now.
Rookie year, I might have averaged 13, 14, 15 points to help y'all win it. Cool. Next year come. I'm mellow. I'm here now. Rookie year, I might have averaged 13, 14, 15 points
to help y'all win it. Cool.
Next year come, I'm at 19.
Mm-hmm.
Next year come, I'm at 20, 21.
It's my third year I'm in this bitch now.
For sure. For sure.
Tayshon and them, y'all know who team it is now.
Okay. For sure.
Right? I'm mellow.
I'm 20.
I'm mellow, right?
By 08, 09, it's my team. You're talking about six... So six years... The same amount asllow, right? By 08, 09, it's my team.
You're talking about six years.
The same amount as Brian, right?
So six years of mellow and something that,
so he's breaking out to be three championships.
Three championships with no stats yet.
No real stats.
He don't need no stats because he's still mellow.
He's probably getting finals MVP.
For sure.
For sure.
It's mellow.
For sure he's walking away with a finals MVP.
It's Melo, bro.
Why?
What makes him?
If you're the third, fourth option on the team.
But no, he's...
You're only thinking about...
He emerged to the first option.
You're only thinking about Melo because you know who Melo was when he was younger.
Bro.
So you're talking about a guy...
It's the evolution of that team, the Detroit Pins.
So you're taking away early Melo, 26 a game, 29 a game,
25. What year is that?
Year three or four?
Year three,
25,
26,
28.
So we're just taking away
four points.
We're taking away
four or five points
from Denver.
You being isocentric
to come over here and win
and only average 21?
You're taking away
all NBA teams.
No we're not.
So now when his team goes bad, now he has to be a selfish guy.
No bro, he's just a winner now.
He's won three titles, decreasing his score, and I'm pretty sure if you asked him, he would
say yeah, of course I would do that.
Yeah because you're asking him that, but you still have to be realistic of how the team
was set, what style they were playing
versus the style he was playing. You're talking about a guy
who, as a rookie, got to play on a team that
was bad to average 21 points.
Who was the coach? Which one? Detroit.
It was Larry Brown. Larry Brown.
What did Larry Brown do for
Allen Iverson? But Larry Brown famously did
not play rookie. Did not play rookie. Of course.
Which is why he wouldn't have played that 0-4
year. The 0-4 year, he would have been a bench player using, right?
I'm saying after that down the line, when Allen Iverson got with Larry Brown,
he forged the whole offense around his star player.
That would have been the same thing.
The same one who wanted to keep trading the same player,
but he didn't have no other talent to mask it.
Now Larry Brown has talent.
He has a Chauncey.
He has a Ben Wallace.
He has it.
Larry Brown was trying to trade Allen Iverson the whole time Allen Iverson was there.
Saying he's not a team player.
But he had nobody else to go on.
So now I have a team.
He created the whole offense around Allen because he had what he had.
I got to do the best with what I got.
What I'm saying, Larry Brown seeing Melo,
look, if Melo excels
beyond what we've created,
we have to now falter
with our best.
What I'm saying is
he would have never got
that opportunity
just like Darko didn't.
If you ask Sheed
how good was Darko,
Darko, he said Darko
was talented,
but he wasn't Melo.
But he wasn't not,
we don't know.
He wasn't Melo.
We don't know what he was. We know he wasn't Melo. What he wasn't not. We don't know. He wasn't mellow. We don't know what he was.
We know he wasn't mellow.
What I do know is I'm Larry Brown, and I don't fuck with rookies.
I fuck with proven players, which was Tayshaun Prince.
So now Tayshaun is getting these 36, 37 minutes.
So how long before you break in?
Two years.
Two years.
Two years.
So that means by year three.
I will win another championship under my fucking skill set.
It's not your skill set.
You're not even a focal point yet.
That's why I said year three.
Year three, I'll be the focal point.
I've won over my spot.
I'm now the starting three guard for the Detroit Pistons.
We're running for the finals for the third straight year, and I'm about to take a team over the top, and it's going to be my team.
That's mellow for sure. That's mellow for sure.
That's mellow for...
And then every year from that point forward,
Tayshaun Prince and them can move the fuck around.
But that's what I'm saying.
But you're not looking at it like this.
They won three championships once they're gone.
Now the team is so bad.
Now he becomes 29, 30-point Melo.
If they don't make no decisions to bring other people in, all that other shit.
He's just not going to be left by himself, but I get it.
I get what you're saying.
I think Melo legacy is better if you go to Detroit.
I do, too.
Whatever, take them for a year.
He becomes what he said he was chasing the whole time.
What he's been chasing up until now.
I mean, he's still a Hall of Famer.
What has he been chasing?
A ring.
A fucking ring?
So if you don't want three and you steal you
That's what say you can't give them both because him being him is created because there was nobody there
There's nobody there so he gets to create which we know now we get to create an ISO guy
Who got to who got to work through his all his problems
There was no subbing mellow out so he gets to really dominate and then I got to create the offense for him
You put him on the Detroit Pistons. You put him like Wiseman. This office is not for you homeboy
This office is for curry and clay you fit in where you get in three years later
You didn't fit in to the fuck on out of you. Do you think the Melo we seen in Denver was the Melo who was just supposed to be?
Do you think that Melo's game would have been able to mesh anywhere he went?
You think that Denver was a place where he could do whatever the fuck he wanted to do because they had nobody, right?
But if he goes to any other team, you don't think his game would have just been like Melo being Melo? Me saying Melo being Melo is the Melo I seen in high
school, the McDonald's All-American game. That was the Melo I was like, hey, this nigga
can, it don't matter where he play, he's going to do this. This is his game. His game is
this. So him going to Denver to not have nobody to answer to, it made it better because he
was already a point guard
in a 6'8 body.
So him going there to be able to do his shit was cool.
But him going to Detroit would have
been a three-man playing a point-forward
position and being able to score the ball.
It would have been a three-man playing a three-man position.
I know one thing. Tayshia and Prince would have to show up.
Every fucking practice.
The team was...
Ronald Dupree
was their secondary three man.
You're not thinking about the coach himself, right?
I don't want...
I don't want a selfish player on my team
that thinks about offense.
I don't want a James Harden.
That wasn't mellow in the beginning, though.
That wasn't mellow in the beginning.
I want pure defense.
This team is defense, and we share offense.
Our thing was we're going to hold everybody to 60, 75 points.
That was our mindset.
So the mellow that we know now would have been different.
It wouldn't have been what we have.
We don't know if this mellow that we know, this pure bona fide scoring machine.
Hold up. Right? Like James Harden,
James Harden in Houston
is not the same James Harden
that was OKC. And that's what
we're saying though.
He would have been the same way James
is. That's how Melo would have been.
You're thinking the wrong way. It's backwards.
James Harden in Houston
had nobody so he
get to mold whoever he want. James Harden in Houston had nobody so he get the mode whoever he want James Harden and OKC had to conform to everybody else
That would have been mellow mellow would have been OKC mellow and James Harden mellow in in Denver you in
James Harden and Houston are both you think selfish players
They're they're scoring players the the
their responsibility was different.
They were, I need you to score 30 for us to win.
Okay, so changing their dynamic of the teams they're on now.
Clippers, Harden on Clippers now, and putting...
Well, okay, just on the Clippers now.
Just James Harden on the Clippers now.
Can't do that.
Him being in Houston, being selfish, right?
Him being right now adjusting his game to being a team player.
You don't think Melo could do the same thing from Denver
if he was with Detroit and still be effective?
With Detroit first, though, right?
With Detroit first, yes.
And then go to Denver.
I don't think Melo in Denver was a selfish player.
I think that he just had a responsibility to be the guy.
That's what I'm saying.
You're saying exactly what I'm saying.
But in Detroit, he would just be relegated to being a player.
So basically, he would be James Harden now?
No.
That's what you're saying.
He would be better.
He would be better. We don't...
He would be better than James Harden now.
What I'm saying is, it's the young version.
So James Harden now has already...
We're talking about James Harden and OKC.
So we have to...
That's the only thing we can give.
OKC James Harden was very different than the James Harden that said,
this team is yours by yourself.
This team here is yours by yourself.
This team here is Kevin Durant.
We already have this established.
Ain't that what I'm saying about Detroit? No, I know.
That's what I'm saying.
He would have been James Harden.
I mean, the James Harden that was OKC, that's who Mellor would have been.
For Detroit.
It would have been able to excel.
So when he would have gotten to the third year.
Think about James Harden not leaving, though, Gil.
Think about James Harden not leaving, right?
He doesn't go to Houston.
Do they win?
Do OKC win?
Does James Harden and OKC become an MVP, a scoring champ?
No, because he already has people in front of him.
So he is James Harden and OKC.
He's a role player.
No one's in front of James Harden.
He's a role player. Oh, he's coming He's a role player. No one's in front of James Harden. He's a role player.
He's coming in as a role player.
So he would have started a role player.
James Harden would have
eventually started.
So that means he wouldn't have
been James Harden in Houston.
Melo and James Harden in Houston
is the same.
Melo in Denver
is James Harden in Houston.
Okay.
They have a team by themselves.
They get to do whatever
the fuck they want.
You put Melo in Detroit and you put James Harden keep him on. Okay. See they're not the versions. They're not this version this nigga right here
That's not him. We know that but that's what we're saying though. He might be a winner, but he's not the MVP
He's not the scoring champ, but that we know but that's not saying his skill set is not that you you're just saying the
Accomplishment is that you're just saying the accomplishment is that.
You're just saying him winning those accolades, of course they're not going to happen,
but that skill set that he displayed with OKC coming off the bench, that nigga was cold.
It was the same nigga we seen in Houston.
Mellow? Mellow for Detroit? He was a cold 16 points.
He would be cold.
He was a cold 16.
It's a cold 16 points.
But he would have started after a while, though. He wouldn't have continued to come off the bench. You can start all you want. He would be cold. He was a cold 16. It's a cold 16 points. But he would have started after a while, though.
He wouldn't have continued to come off the bench.
You can start all you want.
He would have started.
You can start all you want, but you still have to remember,
there's a Kevin Durant on this team and an OKC.
And when you think about it, Westbrook becomes Westbrook.
Why?
Westbrook don't become that if James is still there. Exactly. Westbrook don't become that if James is still there.
Exactly.
No.
Westbrook don't become that if Kevin Durant is there.
Yes, he does.
So he becomes a triple-double, 30, 11-11?
He was already the double-double guy.
Does he become a 30-11?
No, he wouldn't have been a triple-double.
He wouldn't have been a triple-double guy.
But he would have still been Westbrook.
No, it's not Westbrook.
The Westbrook you're identifying with is a triple-double Westbrook.
The Westbrook I'm identifying with was a triple-double Westbrook. The Westbrook I'm
identifying with was the one with OKC with them
together. He was way more
dynamic. He was way more
powerful. When it was just them three
and they had to figure it out between the three of them,
it was like, yo, these niggas are cold
out here. These niggas aren't cold,
but these niggas is not a Hall of Fame,
bona fide Hall of Famer, bona fide
MVP, bona fide scoring champ, bona fide Hall of Famer, bona fide MVP,
bona fide scoring champ, bona fide history makers.
Because of stats.
Because of stats.
Because together they're, what, diluting each other.
No, because the stats don't add up.
They're not diluting anything.
The stats don't add up for the Hall of Fame resume.
Yes.
But the actual skills are there.
It's meaningless.
Why?
Because the skills is meaningless.
Without that, skills are meaningless. The skills are meaningless without that.
You can have all the coldest skills in the world,
but if you're not getting in the game, it don't matter.
If you're not being able to do it on a very, like, 30, 40.
So that James Harden, that doom, doom, doom,
we don't ever get to see that.
That's a great conversation.
We should respond on that.
Yeah.
We will extend it out this summer,
but that was a great one.
I think it's the same. I think OK see James Harden and the girls are useless and worthless
I'm saying
That's just that's our third option role play saying if your skill set don't mean shit if you don't got the step
But if you don't I think the opportunity right now if he's not playing 35 40 minutes not 35 minutes
You know really good times been able to do whatever he wants.
Saying your skill set is meaningless and useless if they can't be backed by stats.
So we got to keep this thing moving, Gil.
Your shoe was untied again.
The ghost came through, but I think I figured it out.
You rubbed your feet together, Gil, when you get super excited.
And you forced your shoe to untie it.
It's not a ghost, ladies and gentlemen.
But we do have some...
Think about Cole, right?
The three championships.
What was Cole really seeking?
I need to show y'all who I really am.
And I can't show y'all who I really am
if the offense is designed to give the ball to Shaquille O'Neal.
Right?
So when Shaquille leaves,
now we get to see the full version of what a Mamba mentality was. See, if
we don't get to see that, if Shaq
and them still trying to build championships.
I'm sorry. I think Melville starts in
Detroit. I gotta keep going.
We got some more breaking news.
Rich Paul
came back to the arena for an exclusive interview
that we will be dropping on Monday.
Paul put up to discuss the draft, LeBron
and Bronny's futures, and Aja Wilson, amongst other things.
So make sure you tap in with us Monday for a special episode.
But now, ladies and gentlemen, all this draft talk,
it is the moment of truth, the moment you've been waiting for.
It's time for our Gills Arena all-time NBA player draft lottery.
Hope I get number one.
Can we bring the ping pong balls out, please?
Oh, hell no.
We see those. We spare no expense. No, no the ping pong balls out, please? Oh, hell no.
We see those.
We spared no expense.
No, no.
Hold it right there.
We spared no expense, Gil.
We broke down your dog's bank.
We know he got it.
These are gourmet.
We know he got it rigged already.
These are gourmet ping pong balls.
We need another gentleman's.
From the mountains of Italy.
Wait a minute.
What I'm saying is he can see.
I'm not going to look.
Hell no. Gourmet ping pong balls from the mountains of Italy. Why? No, what I'm saying is he can see. I'm not going to look.
Hell no.
Gourmet ping pong balls from the mountains of Italy.
Why?
No, no, no.
How about this?
From the mountains of Italy.
Put it behind you, and you go like this.
You?
Yes.
Yeah.
Y'all can all give it a shake if you want.
Give it a shake.
Make sure there's no funny business.
Give it a shake.
There you go.
Rashad, you want to shake it?
Yeah.
Give it to Cemetery Larry's level shake.
Shake it like a toe.
There you go.
So...
Say bingo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, hey, hey, hey, I'm with it.
Say bingo.
Close your eyes, motherfucker.
There are 40 ping pong balls in there.
There will be four rounds.
Excuse me, there will be ten rounds, four picks in each round.
The participants will select to create their 10-man roster.
We got Gil participating.
We got Brandon participating.
We got Rashad participating.
Kenya Martin, who could not be here with us today, will also be participating.
Unlike the actual NBA draft, where a team is guaranteed one pick in each round
before trades and tamperings and all that good stuff,
there are no guarantees in the Gil's Arena Draft Lottery.
The ping pong balls will determine the outcome and participants can
get multiple picks in any given round or
no picks at all. So without further delay,
let's get this draft lottery started. I will not look.
I will pull balls.
I'm going to reach in.
So with the first
pick,
I think it's rigged.
Y'all going to think...
Gil has the first pick You know how the first pick
Gil got the first pick
Ever kills are in a draft lottery. That means that there's a lot of G's in there
So good
You getting paid I'm gonna pick a winner
The second pick, Brandon Jennings, Mr. B. This is a B on the ping pong ball.
The underdog.
For Brandon Jennings.
The underdog got to win again.
I got to win again.
I'll tell you who my first pick is.
Third pick.
Me!
Third pick, Kenyon Martin.
Kenyon has the third pick, the K on the ball.
That's the dream.
The fourth pick, and I'm still going.
No, you might not get it.
You might not get it.
You might not get it.
You might not get it. You might not get it. You might not third pick, the K on the ball.
Rain.
And the fourth pick, and I'm still going.
No, you might not get it.
You might not get the fourth pick.
Somebody get this man a first rounder.
The fourth pick in the Gills Arena NBA player draft.
My shit ain't even in there.
Gusty Gilbert Arena.
Woo!
Last two picks.
My name ain't even on there.
My name ain't even on there.
My name ain't even in there.
It has to be.
I'm not even a part of there. It has to be.
I'm not even a part of this.
It has to be.
I'm not even a part of it.
One four, put my one four.
The first pick in the second round
of the Gil's Arena Player Draft.
Oh.
Gilbert Arenas.
It's a G-Pod, it's a G-Pod.
Stop the count.
I'm not doing this on purpose.
I'm playing.
You know I don't want Gil to win.
Y'all know I don't want Gil to succeed.
The only means I got seven balls left?
Yeah.
So I'm 1-4-5?
This is nasty.
This is expected.
1-4-5?
This is expected.
Rashad gets the sixth pick in the Gil's arena.
Takes over a pick in the Gil's overall draft.
There we go.
It's not as good as you think.
What?
Because if I have seven picks, there's going to be like fucking probably 15 picks I don't get.
You're gonna get three of the five best players
in NBA history.
With the seventh pick in the Gills Arena,
NBA player draft, all time, Rashad McCants.
Whoa.
Back to back.
Back to back.
I'm still not pleased.
Still not pleased?
Still not pleased.
Still not pleased.
This draft is crazy.
This is wack.
The eighth pick.
This is so.
In the Gills Arena, NBA player all-time draft.
Kenya Martin.
All right.
You see the K.
Remember, we only have ten balls.
Oh.
I hope I don't fuck up and say one of these Ks for R.
I'm sorry if I do.
So I'm one.
Forgive me.
Four and five.
Now on to the third round.
Third round.
First pick, ninth overall pick in the third round of the Gills Arena all-time NBA player draft.
Rashad McCants.
So what do you have, six, seven, and nine?
Trash.
Y'all see me moving the hand around so you can't say I'm cheating.
Seven and six, seven, and nine?
With the tenth pick.
Six, seven, and nine.
In the Gills Arena All-Time NBA Player Draft, Kenya Martin.
You see the K?
So you got two and what?
I only got two and what?
I only got number two.
Oh, so he about to get like three in a row then.
With the 11th pick in the Gills Arena All-Time Emerging Player draft,
Brandon Jennings.
Oh, there we go.
Mr. B is back.
Last pick in the third round.
Gilbert Arenas.
What was that?
12th overall pick.
So one, four, five.
Now on to the fourth round.
That's a good record.
First pick in the fourth round.
Cemetery Larry Rashad McCants.
What number was that?
This will be 13th.
Can I get the sound effect, please?
Thank you very much.
And what am I?
The second pick in the fourth round of the Gills Arena NBA Player Draft,
Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.
Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.
It's a one, one, four, five. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings.
Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. Brandon Jennings. The last pick in the fourth round of the Gills Arena All-Time NBA Player Draft. Huh?
You go. Keep going.
Kenyon Martin.
See the K.
I'm not going to be able to get none of my favorite players.
Draft yourself.
Now on to the fifth round.
17th overall pick.
Rashad McCants.
17?
Yes.
You got frozen ping pong balls in here Gil's ping pong ball was frozen
Next pick
Canyon Martin
It's either kind
Wait can you throw that in the
The next pick in the fifth round
19th overall Mr Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
So this is the last pick, which will compose the starters of the fifth round.
So top five for your starters.
Kenyon Martin.
Fuck out of here.
Now onto the bench.
How many picks you got so far?
We still got more to go.
Steve, you got all the picks, right?
Yeah, we have to pick all of them.
Where's she going?
We're tracking all the picks, guys.
Where's she going?
Bring it on back here.
We're gonna do this a little quicker, because it is our Friday.
So now we're on to the sixth round, the first pick in the sixth round. Trying to write more Gs on back here. We're going to do this a little quicker, because it is our Friday. So now we're on to the sixth round,
with the first pick in the sixth round.
Trying to write more G's on the ball.
Gilbert Arenas, Mr. G.
What number is that?
What number is that?
21st.
So first pick in the sixth round.
Dang.
We already have a spreadsheet, Gil.
Technology.
Next pick in the sixth round goes to Cemetery Larry Rashad
McKinsey.
What number is that?
That is number 20... 22.
Y'all just math. Y'all know I'm not good at math.
Next pick, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Fourth pick in the sixth round,
Cemetery Larry,
Rashad McCants.
That's 23rd, you said?
This will be 24.
Now we're on to the seventh round.
You started out hot.
I know.
It's been a minute.
So don't get the vibe until 21.
The first pick in the seventh round, Rashad McCants.
Because this is the second round, right?
And that's 26.
That's 25.
25. 22,. That's 25. 25.
22, 23, and 25.
Yes.
Next pick in the seventh round goes to Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Damn ping pong ball.
Next pick goes to Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Gil, you...
Yeah, that brother's starving.
Starving right now, Gil.
Yeah, that brother's starving.
What pick? What pick?
Last pick in the seventh round, the 28th overall pick, goes to Gilbert Arenas.
Yes. What number is that?
28.
28?
Yes.
Now on to the eighth round.
That's crazy.
Look at this.
This is ingenious.
First pick in the eighth round.
Gilbert Arenas.
29.
I want to trade my 21st pick.
I want to trade.
I want to trade my 15th pick.
Second pick in the eighth round.
Kenya Martin.
Y'all know we can make trades.
We can't make trades.
It has to be an even number of picks, though.
Yeah, one, two, three, four, five, six.
With the third pick in the eighth round, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
What number is the third?
31.
Who, me?
Yeah.
31st overall pick.
With the last pick in the eighth round, 32nd overall, Cemetery Larry Rashad-McKinsey.
32.
32.
That's his number.
That's tough.
Lucky number 32.
Two rounds left.
Now in the ninth round, the first pick in the ninth round goes to Gilbert Arenas.
That's 32?
That is 33.
33.
Need one more.
34. Lucky 32. We should have did it the other way. We should have did it the other way. That's 32 better 33
Need one mo
34 lucky there's another way we should have did reverse order like they do the ladder. Oh, all right, so 34th pick
Rashad McCann 34 cemetery big Shack
You got one more give me 35 to 35
The third pick in the ninth round goes to Kenya Martin.
So I only got two more balls in there?
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
Pick 36.
The last pick of the ninth round goes to Kenya Martin. The tenth round. First pick goes to Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
My armpits all sweaty.
38th overall pick, second pick in the 10th round goes to Gilbert Arenas.
What pick was that?
38.
We got two balls left?
Yeah.
So one is mine.
This one first.
The third pick in that round goes to Kenyon Martin,
which means the last and final pick.
That's really mine.
Gilbert Arenas.
Gil, you got the first pick and the last pick. That's a reminder. Gilbert Arenas. You got the first pick and the last pick.
Okay, you walk away with three of the top five picks. That's crazy. I try. Who has, who has,
who has, um, Steve got a semi-mine. Rashad, you have the first pick in the third round,
the fourth round, the fifth round.
You know what that means.
What numbers do he have?
Do I look like Doogie Howser?
Six, seven, and nine.
Six, seven, and nine?
Yep.
You have six, seven, nine.
Gil, you have number one, number four, number five.
And then 11, 21.
I got to give up five for a closer number.
You don't have 11, you have 12.
So first round breakdown.
I have 12?
Yeah.
So on the starter breakdown, you have pick number four, number five, and number 12.
Brandon, you have picks number two, number 11, number 14, number 15, and number 19.
Five picks total.
Rashad, you have six, seven, 9, 13, and 17.
Five picks.
1, 4, 5, 21.
Kenyon has 3, 8, 10, 16, 18, and 20.
So six picks.
What's Kenyon's picks?
What's his picks?
Rashad?
Yeah, his first pick.
6, 7, 9, 13, and 17.
The first five rounds. So in the first, 9, 13, and 17, the first five rounds.
So in the first five rounds, Kenny has six picks.
He has 3, 8, 10, 16, 18, and 20.
3, 8, 10.
16 and 20.
So he can really beef it up.
You can't, like, even thinking about trading,
you can't even trade until you see the board.
Right.
I can't even think about it, you can't even trade until you see the board. Right. I can't even think about,
because I know the first five picks
is like top five all time or gone.
Yeah, gone.
They gone right away.
It's like if you don't pick them, you're tripping.
So the rules, each team will draft 10 players total
that will compose their five starters,
five bench players over two days.
So we have the predetermined draft order.
Trays are allowed, but for even number of picks.
So one for one, right?
No, you have to give up two.
You give them like one and 18 for...
So just make sure if we trade in two...
One for one, two for two.
Okay, so it has to be...
Oh, because we all have 10.
If somebody wanted to do a one-for-one trade...
But that's...
Is that after the pick or before the pick?
Before.
This weekend, you guys have the next few days, so we'll be monitoring the group chat.
We're trading the actual picks or the players that we pick?
The draft order pick.
The draft order pick.
The draft order pick.
The number.
The number.
Why would you?
Nah.
I'm cool.
So each gym will have their own draft order.
So I give you like two for six and seven or like seven.
But I have to give up two. But this is based on what we see on the board.
Like, who we could potentially pick.
Well, we could pick anybody, right?
Because it's the greatest, right?
So it don't, yeah, it's all players.
But we know that if I got six.
We're technological here at Gil's Arena.
Present a body of our fantasy.
Such and such is not going to be there.
If I got six, I got six.
I'm not going to trade my six for 12.
Because I know who's gone.
Yeah, but we don't.
We know who could potentially be gone at one through five.
But remember, this is everybody.
So this is back in the day.
You can go Jordan West.
Kobe, Shaq, Jordan, AI.
Bill Russell, you can, you know, it's a lot of...
Bill Russell.
No doo-doo smearing.
What's the next rule?
So we all have our...
I think that's all the rules.
He said we have our own...
So each GM will have their own draft war room.
And fans, you at home,
will get to vote for who has the best roster.
Draft war rooms.
Oh, yeah.
Also, we're not here.
You get three minutes per pick, Gil.
Three minutes per pick.
Just like the draft.
After the pick, the GMs will be allowed to explain. Yo, can I bring
some of my assistants? Like, my
assistant GMs and stuff so I can, okay, cool.
You are free to bring your crew. Oh, this shit can do
his part.
Renewed. Renewed.
Brandon Russell, come on. My nigga, Renewed
Brown. My nigga, we about to get
in the war room. 28, 29.
Shout out to A-Bird Move Around Podcast.
The Move Around Podcast can have his very own war room. Yeah. Oh, yeah, let's get it. Oh, yeah, bring your boys. 28, 29, 30, 40. Shout out to Avery, Move Around Podcast! The Move Around Podcast can have its very own War Room. Yeah!
Oh yeah, let's get it.
Oh yeah, bring your boys.
Oh yeah, we gonna sit in there and have like a little clock.
Them niggas have their glasses on.
Who you got, man?
Yo, what you think?
What you doing, man?
Did you scout him?
Did you go look at him?
We'll see who has the best scouting team.
Listen, I start off good.
I'm firing my scouting team.
You start off on fire.
I start on fire, but I...
Yeah, I know, it get tricky.
You gonna have to wait and see what... I start off good. I'm firing my scallions. You start off on fire. I start on fire, but I. Yeah, I know, it get tricky.
You gonna have to wait and see what.
I gotta wait a long time.
That's just like on the video game fantasy.
Once the top 10 picks go,
you looking around like, ah, ah.
I gotta get, this is what.
I don't get to finish my starting five till 21.
It's a cold game.
Grab a sweater, Gil.
That's crazy.
That's after 12, right?
12, then 21?
Your last one is 12. 12, then 21.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Unless you can make a few trades.
You're going to miss a lot of talent.
Thread some jobs.
Do what you got to do, Gil.
And your essential herbs should be number one.
So make sure y'all pull up next.
Hey, this is not as easy as you would think, though.
It's not.
Because you can't trade up for no reason.
No, what I'm saying is, like...
So it's a starting five and a bench.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So 10 players total.
Starting five on Tuesday.
Because, like, no matter what I...
Based on...
Because that means, like, no matter who I get,
that means...
He may very well get his bench.
If I'm picking a center last,
that center's at pick 21 or...
And it's like who's top 10 sinners
or the top available sinners.
Such and such is going to be gone.
He's going to be gone.
He should be gone.
So I might be stuck with a motherfucker like George Mikan.
Rudy Goldberg at the center
Cuz it's only what four of us Ralph Sampson. Yeah
Lonzo or Mutombo
Akeem Keem's a lot of a lot of big Sanders. I got a figure. Oh, I know we don't have to pick my position
So let's put that on my oh
We don't have the next and Wednesday, June 25th and
June 26th, the Gills Arena all-time
NBA draft.
Should that be a rule?
Should that be a rule, picking by position?
Nah, we just pick anybody, right?
Because we're picking a team. We're picking
a starting five and a bench.
Yeah, so whatever you want your starting five to look like.
No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. We usually draft
by position. No, what I'm saying is if we're drafting,
we can then put our own lineup together, right?
Position list.
No, what I'm saying is, like, let's say...
However you want to put it together.
Okay, so, but...
Because it started in the center,
like, if I start some...
If I pick somebody at 29,
but he mixed with the other three,
I can start him if I want to.
It's my team.
I mean, you can go all seven-footers if you want.
You can go all six-feet or under.
I think it should be positioned as, bro,
because if we have to pick two centers...
You can pick whoever you want.
We have to pick two power forwards,
and we've got to pick two small forwards.
But you can pick whoever you want.
Our needs are met because of our positions.
But you can pick whoever you want in the scope of basketball.
Of course, because it's fantasy,
but the all-time positions, like, you need a point.
What I'm saying is, if somebody had Kareem, Shaq, Wilt,
David Robinson, Tim Duncan on the first five,
there ain't no goddamn way y'all winning a game like that.
Why? You round off the rest of the roster?
I mean, listen, at the end of the day, the fans are voting,
so they're going to be like, move around.
If we talking about team, if we talking about your first team,
second team, it's point guard, shooting guard, small forward.
So that's how I want to do it?
Matching up against yours.
I'm matching up my team, my five positions against your five positions.
So everybody first pick got to be a point guard.
No, no, not a point guard.
But just feel the roster out through positions.
Two point guards, two centers.
Somebody in the chat said Travis Knight is center.
No, what I'm saying, let's say my first two pick, I want to pick two centers. Okay. Somebody in the chat said Travis Knight at center. No, what I'm saying is my first two picks,
I want to pick two centers.
Yeah.
That's fine.
And I can't pick no more centers.
Right.
Okay.
Why can't you do
what you want to do?
Because we're filling it out.
But if you're a bad GM,
you're a bad GM.
That's why you have to monitor
your own roster
to see what you want.
Ah, I like that point.
I like that point.
But you have to start.
I like that point.
We're still matching it up, though.
But you still got to match it up.
So if you pick four centers and you got to match up with Giannis.
Giannis and Curry at the guard.
Giannis and Alonzo at the four.
You may want to use Giannis as your five.
And you may want to use Giannis as a four.
But you still have a center, though. Even if you wanted to you Giannis as a four. You just, you know. But you still have a center though.
Even if you wanted to use Giannis as your center, you still got, your center's now going
to, you have two centers on your second team.
One, four, five.
That's up to you.
I would just be here moderating as usual.
I'm just a host.
I like that.
I like all of that.
I like all of that.
I like all of that.
My Adam Silver, my Mark Tytemore.
For each round.
My point guard might have to be at 21, Dan.
You gonna pick two at the top.
We're gonna see who's really about it,
and the chat will be ready to pack you up as they always are.
But now let's move on to mostly fans.
21, I can't.
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You got three positions you can cover
in your first top ten, bro.
You can literally cover.
You should do higher lows, but Underdog, how many centers will do? Before you even have to think about top ten, bro. You can literally cover. You should do higher lowers, but underdog.
How many centers will give?
Before you even have to think about a center.
Unless you're going to pick Shaq.
1.5.
Yeah.
So we got one question before we start our weekend.
Let's turn up.
Another great show.
Shout out to the Lakers.
JJ Redick.
Took long enough.
Kendrick Lamar.
Shout out.
Shout out Kendrick Lamar.
They not like us. You know, the early show, I took long enough. Kendrick Lamar, shout out. Shout out Kendrick Lamar. They not like us.
The energy out of the earlier show, I don't know.
You don't know? I had Los Angelinos here on this
couch. Happy for their city.
Y'all niggas are really Albuquerque.
City of Champions, Inglewood. Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Yo, you're really from there.
So, question is from Underdog user
Daddy MC. What are the chances
LeBron wins one more ring before he retires?
Another LeBron question.
From the chat.
I mean, for the legacy, to, like, cap the legacy off,
that would be remarkable.
I mean, just for the legacy of everything he built to finish on a championship.
So I can say maybe there's likely he can win one more.
And then he retires on that.
Brandon, 50-50.
50-50.
I mean, because he's still playing at a high level.
So if he can get the right pieces over there,
I mean, I'm not putting nothing past it.
Mr. Cemetery Larry, Rashad McKenzie.
It's 50-50.
What are the chances LeBron wins one more ring
before he retires?
What are the chances if he assembles another super team
and walks to the championship game?
Yeah.
What are the chances? With the cane. With the cane.
35%.
35%. I like that though.
Before we go. I like 35%.
Before we go, I got a follow up. Will that team be the Lakers?
Hell yeah.
Okay. Yeah. We're not going Lakers? Hell yeah. Okay. Yeah.
We're not going nowhere, man.
Yeah, okay.
You think J.J. Redick was going to get hired at that goddamn team if LeBron wasn't actually
coming back?
Let's just be honest.
The ultimate question.
I want to say, you think goddamn it, J.J. Redick was going to be on as a coach of this
team if LeBron James wasn't guaranteed to come back?
Yeah.
That let me know right there.
Well, ultimately, the question is, what the hell do they look like without LeBron?
You know how stupid it looks?
Because this will probably be some crooked shit.
It's going to be tampering.
If a head coach of the Lakers and LeBron James
is somewhere else as a player having a podcast together.
That would be legendary.
Talk about how much sense that makes.
That makes no sense
and it's somehow tampering
and it can't happen.
But if a coaching player has a podcast
together talking about plays and what they should
have did better, it makes for great
makes for great
When somebody
look at you like this, they got on glasses
and they look at you. That's great content.
I want to see when JJ Bench's ass or LeBron gives his ass one of these
and then they got to do their podcast together.
That's going to be some funny shit.
It remains to be seen the status of the Mind the Game podcast in light of J.J. Reddick
being named the Lakers head coach, but we appreciate all y'all.
Make sure you stick around on Monday for our Rich Paul interview.
Uh-oh.
You think Kendrick got a Drake song on that album?
Now, that'd be
cold business.
Yes.
If they had a song together.
He wasn't done
with the rollout.
Wait, huh?
A feature.
Oh, with Drake?
If they have a feature
on that goddamn album,
that should be heat.
That should be heat.
Because it might have
started before the beef.
Remember,
if he's been working
on this album for a while,
it could have a song in there already.
Just saying.
That'd be some legendary shit.
I want to pull up at Bev, though.
Like, I need y'all to like and subscribe to the Move Around podcast.
Yeah, please.
Move Around podcast.
Just go show some love.
Subscribe to the Move Around podcast.
You know what I'm saying?
Try doing his thing every Monday.
I want to get you guys.
I know you guys don't like me very much.
It'll be a different Josiah you get on that podcast.
Come through and bless.
Come through and bless.
You'll get the actual, authentic, non-hosting Josiah.
Come through and bless.
We don't like him.
We don't like him.
We don't like him.
Imagine me losing you guys.
Imagine me losing.
We don't like you. I'm losing you guys. Imagine me losing y'all. Only dudes left.
I'm trying to hold on tight.
This the only safe.
I'm losing grip.
You safe here.
You got wrist ball on my neck.
We got the Gills Arena NBA Playground.
Please, guys.
You get to body bag us and we get to erase it
after the end of the show.
This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented
by Underdog Fantasy World. We'll see y'all next week. We like you. at the end of the show. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underground Fantasy. Whoa, whoa!
We'll see y'all next week.
We like you.
He gets a revival.