Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Kawhi & Coach Spo's Huge Extensions

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

Anthony Davis Is BALLING & Coach Spo Gets Paid as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew debate whether or not AD is playing the best basketball of his career for the Los Angeles Lakers as LeBron James tries to right the ship with Darvin Ham. They also discuss the massive extension given to Miami Heat Head Coach Eric Spoelstra and discuss if he is the best Coach in the NBA. Finally they continue to discuss Draymond Green's return to the Golden State Warriors and address Steve Kerr's remarks that his absence put too much pressure on Steph Curry to carry the load. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:38 Gil Practicing For The Shootout 0:07:20 Pick A Duo - Current and Former Players 0:13:49 Who Will Be The First Clippers Jersey Retirement 0:20:13 Who Will Be The First Raptors Jersey Retirement 0:24:39 Is Spo The Best Coach In The NBA Right Now? 0:30:43 Spo Deserves All The Credit For Heat Culture 0:42:59 Better Coach - Spo or Pat Riley 0:49:58 Kawhi Signs Extension With The Clippers 0:55:06 Will Clippers Run It Back With This Core? 1:04:02 Facts or Cap - RJ Barrett 1:10:09 Facts or Cap - Draymond Can Remove The Antics 1:15:05 Facts or Cap - The Burden on Steph Curry is Unfair 1:23:49 LeBron vs MJ At Age 39 1:29:23 Gil's Arena EXPLODES Debating The BEST HOOPER In The Arena 1:40:23 AD Is Playing The Best Hoop Of His Career 1:57:00 Raptors Coach Rant Reaction 2:07:21 Gil's Arena Shootout Promo 2:13:29 MostlyFans 2:18:00 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It was that kind of day yesterday. You was killing dreams? I don't know, man. I'm just saying. It was that kind of day yesterday. You was killing dreams? I don't know, man. I'm just saying. It was that kind of day yesterday. You made Gil tap out? A lot of shit going on. We did have a lot of stuff going on. This is Gil's Arena.

We at Gil's crib. I don't know, man. That man was crashing out, man. He might have tapped out. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We got the legend Brandon Jennings here with us What's going on BJ first first time this week? We missed you. Yeah, I've been gone But you back now welcome back with your vice the Bosque Bosque Bosque. You gotta show them now you guys

Mr. B a little mr. Be back. We got Rashad McKenzie back here in the building. Okay. We got robes. That velvet? What is that? I like to be comfortable. What else we got? We got a calendar?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, we got the workshop calendars. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Available now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Every month. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

To get you through 2024. Yeah, whatever month you want, man. Okay. We got some work of the month. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. AD has been available and balling lately, but is he having the best stretch in his Lakers career? The Heat gave Eric Spolter the most money ever committed in a coaching deal,

but does Spoh deserve all that dough? And Draymond says he can control the annex, plus Steve Kerr says the burden Steph is carrying is unfair But is that fax or cap and you know we also got to talk about the Kauai extension Got that nice healthy bag from the Clippers To open up that into it dome and help get all them bathrooms bathroom me Man, okay, where the hell's Gillette? Anybody know Gilbert Okay. Where the hell's Gil at? Where's Gil at? Can you go back down?

Gilbert! Hippolito! Here we go. He said he's going to come down here. I've been shooting. I'm in the back practicing. He outside? I forgot. We're supposed to be in here. Where's Gil?

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil's arena. We are waiting for Gilbert Reno. What? Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil's Arena. We are waiting for Gil Barino. Get right. Gil out there getting right. No days off. Gil out there getting right. Oh, brick.

It is a glorious day in the San Fernando Valley, and this is Gil's Arena. Oh, yeah. See what happens when the clock clock and the camera's on. Yeah, the cameras came on. The cameras came on. Yeah. See, my energy show up. The cameras came on, and the jumpers started swerving to right or left.

We're having them 40 in a row. Everybody listen on the audio version. Gil is outside on his court shooting some warm-up shots, preparing for the first annual Gil's Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It'll be January 20th at the District in Chatsworth, California, 1 p.m. Gill trying to get his mind right.

Oh, ooh. Six to eight inches to the right or left when you're shooting outside, ladies and gentlemen, here in the West Coast. I mean, all this for what? All this for what? All this for what? He tired boss. He tired. That's all you got to do? Yeah. At the shootout? I hope not. Oh, I mean, there's a lot of misses. It is showtime and this is a black show, so you know we are on black people time. Don't come down here smelling like outside, man.

Smelling like stank. This is Gil's Arena, and we've got none other than the namesake of our show, breathing heavily, give it up for the one, the only, Gilbert Arenas. He ain't here yet. for the one the only Gilbert arenas oh he getting his inhaler right Tired from all that rebounding, huh? Yeah, man. Damn, JC. You should, hey. You was running around a lot.

Hey, you work for me, bro. You ain't going to be tired. That motherfucker come right out the neck. You ain't got to do a lot. We got the musty version of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Wipe him down We kind of six for 11 They said you're six for 11 out there girl. I'll be coming over gills arena shootout champion presented by Underdog Fantasy.

You sweating on me dog, you sweating on me. You sweating on me. You ready for a 10 day, that man ready for the 10 day. I'm ready for the 10 day. He got the big chips right back. He ready for the 10 day. Can I have some more? Please.

Let that man hydrate. I'm done. See, I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, we been started. I was up. Then why y'all didn't talk? What was you doing?

You wasn't with me shooting in the backyard. You good? You need the headler? You good? You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day?

You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day? You ready for the 10 day? You wasn't with me shooting in the backyard. You good? You need the hailer? You good? I thought I had more time. I have my timer on. Oh. You got the work calendar to help rejuvenate you after trying to get some buckets.

I did that. I did that. I did that You familiar with these must give I'll put them together just for you The workshop calendar But this is gills arena presented by underdog fantasy. We already told you'all what we're talking about today. I got like two. Can I have a... Can we be late? Get them the industrial size Costco towel. Y'all know y'all can start without me, right? We definitely can, Gil.

Why my timer didn't go on? All right. Thank you. All right. Wipe him down. Let's go. Let's go. All right. Let's get it.

So we already told y'all what we're talking about today. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Let's go. All right, let's get it. So we already told y'all what we're talking about today, but before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. Use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. We got the Pick'ems Pick'em-y. We got the GIL's Arena Shooter right around the corner.

You can do Pick'ems on everybody on this couch, including all our contestants and our celebrity influencers. And as always, we do mostly fans at the end of every show. Drop a good question in the chat, and if you include your Underdog Fantasy username, we will give you a $50 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account. If you send us a video to mostlyfansgill at gmail.com, and we use that video on the show,

we will give you a $100 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account. The music gets me in the mood. And as I told you before, we got the live version on YouTube where you got to see Gil out there shooting, getting right for the first annual Gil's Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you can't watch the live version on YouTube where you got to see Gil Out there shooting getting right for the first annual gills arena shootout presented by underdog fantasy If you can't watch the live show with us, we got audio versions available on Spotify Apple Wherever you get your look I could have FaceTime me man. Y'all up. I got me out there shooting looking bad, right? I think you know they playing with the Wi-Fi, you know, they've been playing with Adam Silver

people lurking Seeing all types of dudes and suits trying to cut the feet. You ready? Yep. Are you ready? You good? You need a moment? What I'm doing out there,

I ain't going to be, this is spot to spot, so I ain't going to get tired. I might as well condition now, you know what I mean? You know, you got it, right? It's spot shooting, so. Yeah.

You know, so I get myself tired. Dream killer. How do you feel about that? Today was my second second workout. I worked out at 4 then did a live And they got 300 more shots Hey you work out today. Yeah, I did I worked out with the work You had a good workout. We had a good workout this morning. I like this Hey, this what you get in prison right here this is a prison shot This morning I like this Gotta put all your important days on here. We're my workshop calendar. Yeah You know we do definitely got it. All right. Well now that we got all that out the way let's get into the show

So only a sip deals in absolutes, but hoop debates dealing hypothetical. I'm only gonna take a shower. No, I know. You was really late for real. You were in a session for real. You had them earphones in like you was locked in. We have to deal with it now. The rest of the crew, breathe through your mouth. So like I said, hoop debates dealing hypotheticals. With that in mind, let's do a special NBA Jam style pick-em. So we got this great graphic that was put together by the Buckets crew. They got a current player on a franchise, or with a former player.

Pick a duo. You got KD and SGA. KG and Ant-Man. AI and Embiid. And CP3 and Zion represent the Pelicans. So I need you to start with you, Gil, if you're not too tired. Please rank these four duos from best to worst. In like a two on two?

Two on two. Two on two? Yep. That crew's going out there. Those are your choices. I'll go with Garnett and Ant. As number one? Yeah, since they're Garnett and Ant. As number one? Yeah, since they're Garnett and Ant.

Durant and Shea. Okay. AI and Embiid. They both play the same position mid-post, so if Embiid has the ball, AI don't get the ball. Same vice versa. Chris Paul and Zion last. Just too small.

Brent, are you rolling with that or I? Got Katie and shot At the top spot. Yeah first so you think they're giving kg and man that work. Yeah, why do you think that? Because for one Kevin there is the best pound for pound best player out of everybody on here so. Oh. Yeah, I'm just going with that, pound for pound. So can't stop that. And he might not miss. Okay. Shad, you rolling or do you have a different perspective?

Definitely different. I ain't never agreeing with these niggas. So you ain't gonna go CP Zion? I'm going with AI and then B first. Anybody's fucking with Chuck, pound for pound the best player up there And B can handle his own against kg I'll go with kg and Ant-Man second Just because they both defensive minded and they both get buckets. They can do everything

Then I'll go with the ranch. I see CP and Zion last so if I'm noticing a theme here, y'all got CP, 3, and Zion in that last spot it is for? Yeah, for sure. Too small. All right. Ant-Man's going to post up CP. He's going to post up AI. He's going to post up Shay. Shay can post up 2.

Garnett can guard Durant, you know, for a little bit. Not really. Durant can't guard guard kg in the block and then and beat an AI they both play at the mid post That reminds me of when a I played with Weber Right, it was there was clashing because they both wanted that that that a corner by their free-throw area so they kind of messed that up but Drenish I came in, I mean... Yeah.

You're tired, you're fatigued, you're getting it back. KD and Shy. In that 13th win? KD and Shy for sure. Easy. Move around. Move around. They ain't never seen nothing like AI. Ant-Man and Shy ain't never seen nothing like AI.

They gonna be surprised for sure. This nigga too fast. AI can't guard Sha. A hundred percent. He can or can't? Can. Guard who? Sha.

No, he cannot. You know Sha is 6'6"? Right. Don't give a fuck how tall he is. You know how Allen Iverson is? On defense? Thank you. You know he's shooting, but he has the highest percentage in the post? Yeah.

Shane has the highest percentage in the post. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. It's a bucket. Allen Iverson. He's shooting six. No, I understand.

No, you're not. No, I understand. You're not. You're not. You're glossing over it like y'all do. You're glossing, right? No, we got the offensive part of it. We're just talking about him guarding the 6'6 dude in the post,

because that's where she ain't going to put him. So we see this four-piece up here, all right? But if you had to put your best duo together featuring a current and former player from the same franchise. Current and formal. Or they just got to both play for the same franchise. Who are you putting on? Ooh. To add to the third franchise. Who are you putting out? Ooh.

To add to the third? Huh? What'd you say? So if you had a current or former player, or as long as they just both play for the same franchise, best duo, that could beat those four that we just showed you. Damn, that's a good one. He on the same team, though, right?

They've had to play for the same franchise at some point. Current. I mean, that's like LeBron and Shaq. Wilt and Kobe. Kobe ain't playing. Wilt and Kobe, though? Current player. Oh, you said just current.

And an all-timer and a current player. Luka and Dirk. Ooh. I like that one. I like that. I like that. They said you don't likeirt. I like that one. I like that. You don't like white Europeans, though. No, Draymond don't. Draymond don't. I just pointed it out.

So you were down with the lighter shade of brown from New York. Brandon, who you got? You said current player right now. So I got to be a current guy and then a former guy, but they both had to play for the same franchise. So LeBron and Wilt. That's...

Yeah. That's a devastating comment. LeBron and Shaq. LeBron and Shaq. Curry. Yeah. LeBron and Shaq. Wilt and Curry.

Yeah, Wilt and Curry. Ooh. But after looking at that Wilt... After looking at that shit? Wilton Curry. Yeah, Wilton Curry. Ooh. But after looking at that Wil- Oh no, yeah. Wil- did you? After looking at that shit? What?

Nah, I'm not wrong about Wil. Did you see when they played against each other? Who? Wil and Bill Russell. You didn't see it, did you? You haven't seen it? Yeah, that shit nasty, boy. What about-

It just looked like Bill Russell didn't know how to block black people. They say he run like a- That's what I said that. Well, they say he run like a sixth grader He hasn't been the poet. He never challenged one shot city run like a sixth grade He was doing he was posting up doing finger rolls and Bill wasn't trying to block that now one of them Fade away bank shots, bro. Wead, you're our resident Celtics fan. Tatum and Bob Cousy. Nah, I would go Tatum and Larry Bird. Fair.

That's why I'd go Tatum and Bird. Okay. For sure. I'm going to go Kareem and Giannis. Ooh. Somebody in the chat said Wimby and Duncan. Ooh. That's nasty.

I like that. Too big. I mean, yeah. I like that. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Shit. Okay. So let's keep this thing moving.

Other news, Shaq found out recently that he will become the first player in Magic franchise history to have his jersey retired. That leaves the Clippers and Raptors as the only two franchises who have yet to retire a number. So who will be the first player to get their jersey number retired by the Clippers?

I mean, probably Kawhi. He just got that big bag today, which we're going to talk about later in the show. Kawhi. He just got that big bag today, which we're going to talk about later in the show. Elton? Ooh. Elton who? Grant? For what he did to the Clippers? He was like the first modern-day Clipper to really, really put them in play.

I put Blake Griffin over him. Blake? I like Blake. Blake Griffin came in there with a lot of... He did. With a lot of... I mean, but if you say long tenure and resume, like Kawhi probably. Yeah, but Kawhi's resume ain't there.

His resume is... Somewhere else. Somewhere else. So it's like you can't... But who's played there long enough to be able to be like, yo... I'm saying Blake Griffin. Now, the problem is those are Donald Sterling players. Not Bombers players.

So, he ain't retiring somebody that, that's not, those are not my guys. I'm just not going to put them up there. Yeah, but so, but what about the history? Who cares if they not, though, got it? Kawhi and his career, 25 and 7. What about history? Five assists during his time with the Clippers.

Clippers don't have no history. They do got some history. Blake Griffin is, that's history. But what history. What's the history ain't winning the history They were this player helped us win the chip. Let's put them in the joint. So you could put chris paul in there But that's what i'm saying But they're here but you know their history was like up until what 2000 like blake griffin was really their only Player because before that they didn't pay anybody they just four people, you know Our draft pick number one whatever and then let him go

Let him go. So no one really had a career. Yeah, we can't say Sam What about CP3? Like at this point who holds the most points there? Nobody knows No, damn, that's a good question. I don't even know Who averaged the most points? It'd probably be Blake Griffin who has the most points, right? I think Yale was 20, he was averaging like 22. Blake is second, so Randy Smith

in the entirety of the Clippers franchise is with the San Diego Clippers, but 12,735 points. So San Diego Clippers, okay. Blake next, Blake next,

10,863, Bob McAdoo third with 9,430. So Blake, yeah, Blake. 10,000. It gotta be Blake.

It gotta be Blake. It gotta be Blake, and then if you wanna go culture, I'll put Darius Miles and Quinn Richardson. That is nasty. 10,000. It's got to be Blake. It's got to be Blake. It's got to be Blake. And then if you want to go culture, I'll put Darius Miles and Quinn Richardson. That is nasty. 10,000 points is your L.A. Clipper? I mean, I know. 10,000 points is your L.A. Clipper legacy.

I'm throwing L.O. in there before them. Huh? I'm throwing L.O. in there before them. No, all three of them. Now y'all just putting the L.A. Clippers in there. No, all three of them. See, now y'all just putting the numbers in there. No, but I'm saying you talk about culture, but we're saying culture, but the Clippers, that was a big thing. It was them three, yeah. That was their first signees.

I remember because I was a free agent, and there was like seven of them free. And he was going to let them all go, and David Stern had to come and said now you can't do that You have to pay somebody. Damn, and that's when Lamar Odom was going to Miami and they offered me 55 Wow Just retired a clip. It was like I was like two of them. We not sign all seven So they signed my Getty back. I think I'm gonna sign my Getty back here Clipper Darrelll in the mix at all. No Bobby cares to see like once the Clippers get their new arena like what they history don't look like Yeah in there like, you know

They can reach the last 30 some 40 so now you got to go back to when they had the team up at uh with the OSC Arena that they used to play at the Sports Center back or Center? You're gonna go back there not not with us anymore great venue a lot of history there a lot of history They said the troughs in the bathroom. I remember my goal. Oh look and Let's switch the Clark Keith Clark you Look long long long. Yeah, close close close close close and again. we're making a mashup of all your mispronunciations. We will run that.

I mean, I was in high school. He was the dude that come down to the Venice Beach. Legend. Venice Beach dude. Had some good times, had some not so good times, you know. But let's move it over to the rappers. Who will be the first player to get their jersey retired by the Raptors? Who should be the first player to get their jersey retired by the raptors who should be the kyle laurie okay kyle laurie supposed to he should be the first yeah i mean he's the one who oh he's the one that's that's done enough body of work in the franchise so

when they say i have a championship he was a part of that. He was there. He's been there. He has the most all-stars on that team. But the person who put him on a map and still had, what, four, five all-stars there would be Vince Carter, right? I'll say Kawhi Leonard.

Yeah, I mean, Kawhi, first championship franchise history. First final team franchise history. That was so gangsta, bro. I got traded at Kansas 20 years. It was a short time, but it was a very powerful moment. Yeah, right. In Raptors lore. If the rappers want to keep it real, they want to keep it real, they will retire Kawhi Leonard.

60 games? Yeah, nigga. Brandon, I'm going to say two words. Yeah. I'm going to say two words. Yeah. Air Canada. That's all I'm going to say. I'm doing it. Air Canada two words. Air Canada. That's all I'm going to say.

Air Canada. You might have been too young. No, I saw the dunk contest. Whose name was that? I saw the dunk contest. Whose name was that? I saw the dunk contest. That was his name.

I saw the dunk contest, and I also saw a dude come from the Spurs off a one-year deal and come do what none of y'all could do. But when this team came in. That is fair. That is fair. That is fair. That is fair. That is fair. That is fair. What was Raptors ranked before he got there?

Don't matter. It do matter. They were Lebronto before. Don't matter. But what were they ranked? It didn't matter. It didn't matter. One, two, one.

It didn't matter. The same band keep beating them. What about Chris? And then that man left. We all knew that. Huh? Chris Bosh has what? Four all-stars.

But he was there at least eight years? Oh, quality. He has four all-Stars? But he was there at least eight years. Oh, Kawhi. He has four All-Stars. If you, if it ain't Vince, it should be Vince or CB, then Kyle Lowry. Kyle Lowry has the biggest resume as a Raptor. No, for sure, he does. Only

resume he has is championship. No, six All-Stars, two All-NBA teams. He was voted in as a starter, too. He was voted in as a starter, yeah. He was an All-Star six times. And then the championship. So if you're giving Kawhi, you have to give the guy who's been there the longest. Then from there, it's DeRozan, Bosh, and Vince.

But Vince has the biggest impact by far. Might as well put Antonio Davis up there. Nah. And Muggsy Bogues. But I'm saying when you say Kawhi has the championship the dude who's been there the longest has that championship to With the six all-star how long has he been sick? Oh, how long was it go Kyle? I'll already let me so she go Kyle. All right, the Wi-Fi is janky six years More than six years. He has six all-stars His first all-star was with the Raptors.

And he got boated in as a starter. Justin Bieber tweeted it. In there. Boy was in there. Justin Bieber tweet, the boy was in there. As I said, but Vince is the biggest star. I mean, by... He put him on the map.

No, no, that's fine. We're talking about expansion team. They came in Vancouver, Toronto, but that's fine I hear all that sanity. I heard all that dunk on How What do we call it? I should need to go for us. I don't care about what you call me about. No, there's nickname I don't care about what that is, huh? You don't know like to be nothing about the beer if they're gonna do something since Kyle

I was still playing, it's in, DeRozan's still playing, to make it make sense, you need to be putting Vince in this year or next year. If you're going to put a jersey in. Well, you better do it now. Right? I mean, that's it. Because he's still, because those guys are still playing him, we can't, you know, we

can't retire your jersey while you're still playing. So, if you're going to put put this you got to put him in you can't you talk about bringing fans to the arena by looking up in the rafters I'm gonna put Vince Carter's Jersey up there before I put Kyle Lowry Kyle are not bringing my focus to the gym to be like yo Larry up there yeah all right yeah what you yeah I info That run that they had? Don't give a fuck about no run. What about Vince Carter?

A lot of that had to do with Kyle Lurie. He was getting voted in as a starter. Vince Carter. That's fine. Who's voting? The fans. Okay, the fans don't know shit about basketball. So the fans voted Kyle Lurie as a starter.

What, they don't know shit about basketball? They wanted Boban. Boban was supposed to be in the fucking All-Star Game. Now, you can't do Kyle Lurie like that. Oh, man. Kyle Lurie was holding it down. Absolutely. This is a workshop Comfortable, you know we come to

I got everybody Got a different size. You got a small kind of small. I mean I've been trimming down y'all see me on my name I just I start new who have Give me this medium. Okay, with the Shaq one, right? In Miami? No, they said Orlando. Orlando. Before Dwight? Because he played before with Dwight.

I know. That's why I said it's like they're so, like, Dwight's been retired, and it's like he has the biggest. He has a better resume than Shaq in our land in Orlando Yeah, but then again you look at Shaq. It's like he brought them to oh, yeah. Yeah, he was breaking rims It's like sometimes y'all are just so far out that that should have been you should have had them in the Raptors a long time ago, absolutely right, right That's what I'm okay. I'm with okay. I mean, so now the white has to wait four or five years for a resume You know five time, you know three time

Defensive player of the year rebound and champ, you know, I mean all first team like it is so big Is it because he hasn't retired completely yet? You think if the white would have retired already they would have considered it. Yeah, I'm I say cuz he just retired I mean, I'm retired. Yeah, I'm I say cuz he just retired I Don't know they just probably just go in order Right, they probably just go what took so long. Yeah for Shaq at least I don't know Peace, I don't know. So this penny get in there, too. I would say he should for me i hope me i don't know because we talking culture like that's yeah yeah they changed the whole culture a little so y'all talked about the heat let's move on to some of

the bigger news going on in the world of the heat so yesterday it was announced that eric spolster and the heat agreed to a record eight-year 120 million dollar deal that is the most committed money in coaching history according to reports Popsil makes more per year, but Spoh is getting more total bread Spoh's won two chips made six finals appearances and 12 playoff appearances in his 14 plus seasons with the Heat We've had this discussion before but we got to bring it back to the table now Is Spoh the best coach in the league right now. He's, I mean, he's, he does the most with the least amount of talent. So if we're going to go off of coaching ability, then at this moment in time,

he can say he is the best coach in the NBA. Can you repeat that for me, Gilbert? Just in case people were not paying attention. He can say he's the best coach in the NBA. Eric Spoelstra. Right now, yes. Brandon, do you agree or disagree with that statement?

I agree. I mean, that statement? I agree. I mean, that Miami team was trash. They took to the final. So to be able to do that, I got to salute to that. Yeah, and he's been consistent. He got three titles, right? Two. So Pat got that first one in 06.

Okay, so Spoh was still in the video. Spoh was in the video room. So, like you said, doing more with less and then showing up and doing a lot with more when you got LeBron and them. He was able to solidify that. That's a young one, too. You know, then you look around the league right now,

his competition is Steve, Pop, who else? So, Kerr, Pop. Why would Pop be in there as of right now? Because he's still coaching. Because his legacy? Because he's still coaching. He's still there. Yeah, but we got to do it just like if people don't want to put Bron in the top five you ain't got to say pop is in like your best

So right now right now, but who would you serve being cuz he's hot Who would you put I mean, but what I'm saying you it's like are we continuing everyone's legacy of their? Championships that they did when they had great teams what we're talking about as of today like you know you You know the guy that's five or ten years No, you got you know Steve Kerr. He has three Hall of Famers on his team. He's not playing very They're not playing very well right that's right. You know so The only people that can compete with him is what Mike Brown Mike Brown. You know you got Mike Brown over there, Talou You got fall for Hall of Famers

Right you know I'm talking about the resume. Miami, you got one star. That's it. You're making it to the finals with one star. You're making it to the finals with one star, and then you have a bunch of players who these guys wouldn't start on other teams either. Maybe the Lakers, the way we play. But for the most part, those guys wouldn't start on another team,

so he's maximizing it. So I just look at what you have versus. What about Mike Malone, Gil? Any love for the most part, those guys want to start another team. So he's maximizing it. So I just look at what you have versus. What about Mike Malone, Gil? Any love for the Nuggets? I think I like Mike. And he's done it for a consecutive amount of years. Yeah, you got to. You got to.

I can't help that, you know, what's the name of the MVP? I'll put him a close second. I couldn't offer having a generational talent in Joker. Well, well, well. But he had to create that. Build it. You know what I mean? Build it.

I don't like this part of when people talk about something like, you can't put Joker as a franchise changer because that's not when he was drafted. He was drafted as a second round pick and they developed him into that. I remember if you watched back when he came in, they were laughing. Those announcers, oh, they just put anybody in the game. Right? What he is now is what he

turned into. That's what made Steve Curry good. You had Steph Curry showing glimpses, but the product that we see now is from the inside development. Same thing with Spoh. What you have and how they have developed into who they are, that's coaching. So what about somebody like Nick Nurse?

Not yet. What is his resume? NBA champion. Got a cheat. NBA champion. Oh, that NBA champion where they had the coach of the year the year before. He got the coach of the year, got fired. They were number one.

The Wayne Casey. The Wayne Casey was number one. They were number one. He gets fired, right? They put in the coach. As of the roster right then, you're number one in the Eastern Conference because LeBron left. Then you trade for Kawhi Leonard for DeRozan. You win and don't make you a great coach.

Your team. Like, I hate the fact that some of these coaches can get on these teams and they're like. Take the credit. You get to take credit for something that That's not you like, okay, so Okay, so the Warriors did know the Warriors is not number one or two when Kirk got when Kirk got the job They wasn't I mean we want to give Mark Jackson his credit. We're giving them we give them of the credit for giving Steph Curry that type of...

A four, man. He gave him a four. He gave him a... Like the... Do you, right? And we built off of that. But for the most part, we can say Luke Walton, right? They won a championship.

Curry's out. You start 24-0, right? But with that squad, though, right? Yeah, with that squad. I'm just saying, Luke taking... That was a well-oiled machine by the way. That's what I'm saying. Because we can't consider Luke a great coach.

But that's what I'm saying. But he gets a job from there. We've seen what happened there. Then he got a job, and we've seen what happened there. So you can't value these coaches on their championship run as great coaches because they're on a team that's already oiled. Like Griffin right now If you win the championship, we can't say we can't we can't give you that. This is your resume Right, it's yeah. Yeah. How long how long would you say spokes has been the best coach in the NBA? I'm sure to be honest. We never really noticed, right?

We haven't. He's been so consistent that we haven't even been paying attention to him. Because he don't have good players. Because even when the Warriors and them were winning championships still, was he still the best coach in the game then? I mean, I guess I would look at it like this, and I know people get mad when you make these arguments, but if you text Bo, have him coach in that Warrior squad,

would they have been just as good? Well, let me fix my statement. They did have good players. I don't want to say they didn't have good players. No, you said it right the first time. Jimmy's good. Jimmy's a solid. Kyle's, you know, they're all solid.

Bam is solid. But as far as star players, like they didn't have the star players to be able to say, Spoh, we should be paying attention in Miami. Every year, we're going to pick them second, third out of the East. They just kind of creep in every year. We're like, man, where they come from? It's like, Spoh, that's Heat culture. I mean, I think

that's the thing we look at is the Heat culture. After LeBron left, I feel like a lot of people wrote him off. Yeah, they won 13 games, and then from there, he got them back. So, I mean, like I'm said he didn't have these six eight nine years of Horrible teams right? He had a bad year everyone boom boom boom Bosh bosh Dwayne gets hurt and then two years later. She's back in a running

So even the coach in Boston, I can't give you a ranking Missoula. Yeah. Yeah, that team's been so hot for the last six years. Right? You just come in and get that. I can't give you. One of two moves. You can see how we have Detroit coach Manny.

We see who you are when you have superstars. Now you don't, right? This is what we're going to see how you get this team to the next level. Right now, this year, okay, it's a why. This is your first year here. You're trying to figure out, trying to put a culture in. Next year and the year after that, that's when you're going to be on the clock.

This year is a wash for you. Right. Because you're coming from, you know, Katie and Booker and CP3. You coached a little different then. Right? You coached your practicing schedule. It was around that. You have to figure out how to get these guys going. So this is not your year.

Right? This is just a process. Next year, right, you know, you tweak in to make the playoff the following year. That tells you if you're a good coach or not. So what about Edoka? If Houston can turn the corner next year? Because this is, I think, you look at Monty

and you look at Ime, they both in similar situations. New coaches, brought in to try to turn turn a tide and if we if we can give emate some credit in boston for what was happening if we're gonna give it to brad are we gonna give it to emate i'm gonna give it to adoka just because he's a player and he kind of connected with the players a little bit differently and i think now in houston they have so much talent he don't really know the direction of the organization. So give him a couple years, like you said, with Monty, then we need to judge him. But I think those are two coaches that are on the clock for sure. They have potential to really

kind of coach. Yeah, that's what I said. You know, as a coach, you have so many different coaches. You have coaches who develop the players, who manage the players. You got coaches that can only coach championship teams, meaning he can only coach egos. There's guys who are great coaches for young talent. Give them that structure. Give them the structure for success. Then you have the middle-of-the the road coaches who just knows how to manage. Great team. When you're hiring a coach,

know what you're fucking hiring them for. Don't hire a Phil Jackson to coach Detroit Pistons. He'll lose his fucking mind. He'll lose his fucking mind. That's a great point. Do not hire a Stan Van Gundy to coach a Denver Nuggets or, you know, one of those teams.

He's going to run those guys like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. You're doing too much. We already win. You're doing too much. We already win. So when we had Norris Cole on the show, he broke down what makes Spoh so special. One thing that makes Spoh good, Spoh is not one of those coaches that's stuck in his ways. He adjusts with the time, and he holds himself accountable.

He'll say, like, man, I shouldn't have did it. You know how some coaches will be like, I ain't wrong. It's your fault. Do it harder. Do it smarter. Spoh will look at himself and be like, I messed that up. We're going to do it. I'm going to adjust.

And as the years went by, he learned how to coach with talent, which is not easy. Most people think having a bunch of talented dudes is easy. It ain't, because those egos is crazy. It's hard to tell a dude that got more money than you, we ain't doing that. Spoh had three or four dudes. Ray Adams was $100 million. Rashard was $100 million. LeBron, gazillionaire. D-Wade, gazillionaire. It's Chris Boss, 200 million. Juwan Howard, 100 million. And Spoh had to keep all that in one bag.

So he learned that. And then when they all left, he learned how to coach with less talent. So he knows all the teams. So if I got a supremely talented team, I know how to balance the egos. A team that's not that talented, I know what I got to do.

The teams that ain't that talented, they in there working like slaves. I mean, we all work, but they working like slaves so that they can compete at the highest level against more talented teams. That's how the Heat be winning. But that's what I'm saying.

That is the Heat culture, right? That's the culture, for real. So, Gil, we know you're not the biggest fan of Heat culture, but how much credit does SPO deserve for maintaining and elevating what people call heat culture? It must be. You're good. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

You are Gilbert Arena. What was the question? How much credit does Spoh deserve for maintaining and elevating heat culture? Maintaining. What is heat culture? A motherfucker's scared to go down there and play for the team because you got to run, run, run, and the trash cans on each joint, and you're going to throw up, and doing, what is it, four 10s? You got to do the tens one two three four five six seven nine ten for

them that's you mean condition is it you conditioning shit okay just regular conditioning okay is it just regular condition though we just heard Norris Cole say that with it with a good team or a bad team suppose gonna get them right and those bad teams they're gonna work like Kunta Kinte yeah okay so basically so basically so basically he culture is you let your stars do whatever you want because you got stars. Right. And then when we don't have stars, we use the stars.

Hey, hey, we want some rings over here. Slave! But he didn't say let stars do whatever they want. I got to take those egos now and coach them. So now when stars want to do whatever they want, I got to tell them. No, we're doing this Yeah, get them to listen please Run all of this because LeBron and wasn't doing all of that. No, baby's Toby, right? But is it he culture is it spole culture? Oh

Is this spole culture right now? What is what is that's what I'm saying takes SPO out, but let's take SPO out of it He culture started with Pat Riley right The fuck is his resume as a heat guy that yeah lost every first round didn't make the playoffs Went upstairs right went upstairs Ran upstairs because they were sorry as fuck right and then

oh no if we gonna call it and then Shaq comes they didn't play well then he sees Shaq and D Wade okay this is it then he comes down to coach the team to win a championship

they get smacked the next year he runs upstairs this is it. Then he comes down to coach the team to win a championship. They get smacked the next year. He runs upstairs and then says, hey, Spoh, that's you. Take the credit for this bullshit. So Spoh has put his own sauce and his own thing on

what the culture is. So it's Spoh's culture. Just like the Heat culture was Riley when he got there. I don't know what it's Spoh's culture. Just like the Heat culture was Riley when he got there. I don't know what happened to the Knick culture. It should have been or Laker culture.

I don't know. What fucking style do you have? Because every single style is different, sir. Right? That's what I look at. Okay, you had Magic Johnson. Obviously, you wasn't coaching him.

He was coaching himself already. Right? It was already showtime. Because if you spent eight, nine years with that, and then you go to New York and that's not your offense, what you was in, that means you was sitting there waiting to get a team that you can coach. You can really put your, your spew on.

So Knicks and he look more alike than the Lakers in those two teams. So, that means the Laker team wasn't his identity. The Knicks team was? The Knicks was, right? So, when you look at all those draft picks and you look at all them guard after guard after guard who can't shit, all these undersized four men, right? That looks exactly how you've been looking in Miami. So that's Pat Riley's culture. Spole's culture is different.

Tweak, 2.0. It's a different culture. It might have some of the same elements, but he's a different dude. He's a different coach. So let me just read off Pat Riley in his first stint as he coached from 96 to 03. Swept in the first round, lost Eastern Conference final, lost first round, lost first round, lost second round, lost first round, missed playoffs,. Wow. Went upstairs. Damn. Wowzers. Someone said a slick back? Slick back.

A pimp named Slick Back. A pimp named Slick Back. He a pimp New York like a motherfucker, didn't he? And got up out of there and said, I'm going to Miami. Then I came back, won that chip. They went to the playoffs. The next year, I believe, lost the first round. Then they missed the playoffs. And then Spoh took over.

Yeah. Trust me, I've checked. That's interesting. So it's Spoh's culture right now. and then Spoh took over. Yeah. Trust me, I've checked. That's interesting. So it's Spoh's culture right now. This is Spoh's hand. Okay, but how much credit does Riley deserve? Norris Cole also told us when he was on his couch, and all those guys were like, get Spoh up out the paint,

blowing the big whistle and saying, no, Spoh's my guy. That's what I'm saying. He's learned under Pat Riley. You learned under a coach, but all coaches have their own identity. And sometimes it might take them a while to put their thing on it. And I don't think people understand that. Like pop coaches, right? The people under pop.

Those assistant coaches, they have their... Their ways. They have their ways, and then when they get their own team, right? When they're new, they're going to use what Pop has, and then they're going to add on their own sauce. So it might take you two, three years before you see that coach's culture onto the game. Bud with Milwaukee.

Bud with Milwaukee, yeah. You got to give that Mike Brown Okay, like you see, you know Was it Philly coach Nurse nurse right you can see his offense from Toronto is coming over here. Mm-hmm, right? He don't care about the players that he has over here He didn't have in bead over there, but he's making the same offense works over here. I know you work with what you got, right? And I'm pretty sure if you got three, if you have three, six, four, you're point guard at six, four, you're

shooting guard at six, four, you're three man at six, four, you're four man at six, eight, I'm pretty sure you should be a fast ass team. Huh? You shouldn't be Pounding the ball down low playing slow man basketball, but what do I know? What do I know? I just Like so I mean the real take is the real take is It'd be a hard argument, but I could probably argue it who's the better coach humor Pat Because you just what you're about to start a situation I'm just saying that that is the better argument.

But who takes the credit? Because he's making the decisions up top to give you what you got to work with. True. And he's coming down every now and again to correct you. Because the bird that I talk to down there is, hey, man, Spoh is not in control at all. He has his little notepad. It ain't the workbook, but God damn it,

it's similar, right? Different working. You know, he's... I got it, I got it. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So do we, like, what do we do with the credit?

But that makes him a better general manager. That's what I'm saying. So where do we get the credit? Because he's given him what he needs to do the things what is he giving them because you couldn't because he couldn't do it the type of players and what i'm saying is maybe he's a better general manager than he was a coach i believe that too but see because what we're

judging what we're judging where he built his legacy on was the Lakers, that he inherited the championship team. You inherited the championship team with Magic Johnson. You win the championship. You get James Worthy as the number one pick. That's the team you get to coach. You know what I mean? That's like we getting fired. That's like, what's. That's like that's like

What's the name getting fired right now, and I get the Denver job, and then I get the number one pick next year Or they got the number I get win be you over there So fuck do I really really my chances of the next 10 years with those with that lineup it in heightens You know what a ventriloquist a ventriloquist is? Yeah. Right? I think that Pat's arrogant enough to be like, I'm going to take this motherfucking camera guy, video guy, stick my hand up his motherfucking mouth. I'm going to start doing what I do through him. He'll get the credit, but we're all going to know this is my doing. This is my voice. He's just moving his mouth

That's like that's like a writer right? That's like a writer You can write this song, but you can't perform it exactly right, and that's why I said he we can give him We we can give him credit for the general manager stuff and putting the right pieces in the scout team But you know coaching the play like coaching the player is really understanding these players and really making a move and really making them believe But that point you just made You could write the song, but you can't perform it. Mm-hmm, but we getting the same credit. So whose song is it though? I get the credit though. I still get my point, but and I don't need the credit because I'm the one that created the song I know but you can't perform it. I ain't need the credit because I'm the one that created the song I know but you can't perform it I ain't never got you, but you know you give it to me, but you know you like I can't dance the way you dance

But I don't dance that motherfucker, but look when it's time to go to the party It's my invites Sing the songs like I tell you It's just gonna be a whole bunch of lawsuits. I didn't get paid my residuals You know, it's it happens but for sure so another side of this situation that he fans pointed out Spoh and the heat waited for his divorce to be finalized Before agreeing to this deal who? Do you respect the vision? He got divorced?

He got divorced They messy for that one. In the November. They messy for that one. Oh, they stick together. No, no, no. What I'm saying is the Heat fans,

y'all are messy for that one because I don't know if y'all know law, right? If she can, if she can prove that there was a negotiation during that divorce, she's entitled to that money. So they need to shut the fuck up over there.

Y'all might fuck up your legacy because he might be in that mother. I think you can't be negotiating deals within like a six-month period. What if they started negotiations last year? That's what I'm saying. December, you know December 2nd. So we had a divorce what end of November you got finalized December 2nd negotiations started on November 2nd. No No, it has to be time between that divorce cuz that's all I have to do is prove an email here and there I'm pretty sure. When she's seen that money,

they're going to private investigate it. I've never seen it coming. I've never seen it coming. So we asked the chat, is Spoh the best coach in the league? 62% said yes. 38% said no. We asked the chat a follow-up question.

Spoh O'Reilly, after 1,200 votes, 73% said They said, no, we asked the chat a follow-up question. Spoh or Riley? After 1,200 votes, 73% said Spoh was a better coach than Riley. 27%. So now we're listening to the chat. I'm just making sure. No, I'm good. No, not all the time. Okay, I'm fine.

But when they say what we like. We love our chat. Look at him. We love our chat. I'm swaying to the chat. I'm swaying. I fuck with the chat. I do fuck with the chat. I'm swaying to the chat. I'm swaying. I fuck with the chat. I do.

I fuck with the chat. I do. They funny as hell. The chat is great. They're getting their stuff together. But let's talk about the breaking news today. Clippers were set to move to their new arena next season. There were concerns if one or both of their two stars would be there to join them.

Well, some of that concern has been alleviated with the announcement that Kawhi Leonard has signed an extension with the team. They dropped this today. Good morning, Clipper Nation. We signed Kawhi Leonard to a contract extension. Then Bray's going to be braiding for at least three more years. According to Shams, Kawhi's extension is three years, $152.4 million, which is about $8.5 million under the maximum salary amount

for his three years. There is no player option for the deal. So what does the Kawhi extension tell you about the Clippers' future? That they're still going to keep trying to go for that invisible championship that they want. I'm just saying, like, I mean, it's showing that they actually are serious about winning, so. You don't think they got a chance this year? They do, they do. If they, you know. They play well.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They're playing well right now. It's playoffs. I like this move. You know why? Because it's submitting everybody on the West to actually make decisions with their star players. Because the Lakers are going to have to make a decision with AD.

And I think Denver, they locked in Joker, right? Murray, when is Murray up? Murray just signed an extension. Then you got Clay. You got the Golden State. You got to figure out what you're going to do with OKC. You got to figure out what you're going to do. So Murray's through next season. You got to make decisions.

What I'm saying is, when you submit cement, like a guy like Kawhi, and then you can pick up PG, and see what James is going to do. You got Russ on the one year, you bring that team back again,

and happen to add some more pieces. It's like, well, the Clippers will be the... Russ has a player option after this season. They got a good chance to be the team to beat next year. Let's just say this year don't pan out. Their momentum now, going into next year and everyone having to make moves, it's like, well, y'all got to make

some big moves because kawaii said he ain't going nowhere and he's taking less which uh i think signals to me his commitment to the squad i feel like him and other players on the team are talking like look i'll take a little bit less you take a little bit less i don't think people really understand the what contracts are right so like when a guy signs an extension it is actually cheaper for the team versus him opting out Right when he signs an extension is what what 12.5? Mm-hmm onto his last number, right? So if he's if he's not a max player if he is it's only a 12.5 increase Right versus getting rid of the whole deal and just signing a whole new deal

So how much he loses by so I'm in a point five million It is the maximum salary amount each year. They forced three years. That's what how Sean put up So three, okay, so so like if he opted out, you know, he has eight more million to gain So that's why most players opt out of their deals and go as a free agent so they can sign to Max. It's not necessarily trying to leave. Gotcha. I'm with it.

So when you look at that crew, would Kawhi have been the first player you'd lock down? Would that be the first domino that you wanted to fall? If you're the Clippers? A healthy Kawhi? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because he's the best player to ever put a Clipper uniform on. Okay.

So, and then go get Paul George. Paul George be the next domino. So, PG, extension talks are still ongoing. He has a player option at the end of the season. Harden cannot, I think, negotiate his new deal or get a new deal until the offseason because of the trade. And Westbrook has a player option for next. Why do you like Kawhi so much, man?

Say what? Why do you like Kawhi so much, man? Say what? Why you like Kawhi so much? What's the explain? He's a dog. What's the explain this? He's a dog, bro. Huh? He's a dog.

I just know dogs. Like when I'm watching the game, I can see like who's a dog and he has that dog in him. Like which dog? The dog that's coming back from... Like the beware of dog. The dog that's coming... Like the beware of dog. The dog that's the beware of dog the dog is coming back from the No, like all hospital. No like it's always like the dog always heard. He really been a dog. He hasn't been a dog

He's been hurt. He's been in the kennel. It's been hurt, but that doesn't mean he's not a dog He's like like pound for pound like you know like what's what's the point? What's the point of having a dog in your backyard and he can't fuck with nobody he can't bite nobody I've jumped through this motherfucker. He the dog with the cone on it? Yeah, he got the cone. He got his rock wallet. He got his little ears, but he can't.

Yeah, he's just. He's biting right now. Yo, listen. I'm not going to put the co-op in this. I'm asking you. What's the whole? I mean, the resume speaks for itself, though. The resume speaks for itself.

Best clipper ever To put a clipper. Yeah. No, I mean Yeah, I'm overall we're just like yeah, he's the best clipper ever. He's better than Paul George Is he better than Paul? Yeah So quiet in 193 games as the Clippers after 25 points seven rebounds five assists You take it like I can't like with Ka with Kawhi, I can't, I don't have, like. Because if we just rolling out the ball. You taking them over PG.

If we just rolling out the ball and we at UCLA, I don't, come on, man. PG went up. Uh-oh. We got a surprise for you. Oh, shit, the dog shit out of him. See, see. Dog scared the dog shit out of him. See, see. Freedom is back.

I ain't seen this thing in a minute. The dog scared the dog Like uh Like requires like it just seems like You might not like how it looks But he just gets it done. Yeah Right. He's just one of he just gets it done right it looks Robotic it looks ugly. It ain't a sexy. It ain't sexy right it's sure it's like it's like going to a black barbecue it's a hole in

the wall you look at law man got the bum on the side oh good right but the food baby food baby flies in them up but the food baby. So What you want what you got me what did hurry up? Everybody got cornrows. Yeah, you get the food But y'all don't enjoy watching Kawhi's game I really I just feel like we're Kawhi is like like him like come on I like him and Westbrook are like the two most feared I think out of LA players ever Just fear like I don't think niggas want to go one-on-one or be in that dogfight with them.

With them type of players. With who and who? With Westbrook and Kawhi Leonard. Like, when it comes to, like, that just mentality and just, like, Kawhi don't say nothing, but you just know what it is. Like, Westbrook is like, you don't want to be in a dogfight with them for 48 minutes. So in practice, when PG

is going up against Kawhi, Kawhi getting the best of him? I don't know. I'm not there. I'm asking you. I doubt it. I mean, I don't even know if they're playing one-on-one. They ain't playing one-on-one. I'm just saying if they both were, they'd be playing one-on-one.

Yeah, I'm saying I would be mad if Paul George, if Kawhi is supposed to be the best defender, he can sharpen my tools. So I'm going gonna challenge him every day Well, maybe playing on I'm just saying I just want I just won't prove I just won't proof behind the pudding. You know saying I'm like, hey man, Paul George is Arguably one of the nicest smooth as motherfuckers we seen G also said that he was comfortable being the number two and he had to come to that realization

So you can't be so you can't be better. he was comfortable being the number two and he had to come to that realization. So you can't be better. You already giving me the number one spot. I'm catering to the owner and the owner making this guy our guy. I don't want to conflict with our team. I'm just going to take the back seat. We talked about this when I was like Kawhi. I mean P

if you really going to do that you're taking yourself out of a situation where you're the guy. You're saying I want to be Robin but you don't have to do that. You're taking yourself out of a situation where you're the guy. You're saying, I want to be Robin. But you don't have to do that. You're doing it because you're kind of like Westbrook. You know the game enough to say, I'm going to stand down so our guy who they brought here to be this guy can be that guy. I bet you practice don't start unless Kawhi Leonard says so. That's when you know you're the guy.

You know what I mean? Yo, whenever Kawhi say we starting practice, that's when we starting. But he don't talk, so we ain't never starting. I know, so when he walked out... The nigga don't even say what he's gonna do. Knock his head? Yeah, that's right, exactly.

That's the media, man. We don't know. Exactly. He just don't talk. No, he do talk. But KJ Martin was on the squad before the Harden trade. Kenny said he spent a lot of time at their training camp. I think the previous year, it was kind of a bunch of bullshit this

year guy said they wanted to work so that was coming from there to leaders one of you say is a dog you saying PG not no dog Tennessee no I'm saying PG is the nicest like that the nicest movies he like he's the ideal player that you want to dress in the draft so So Kawhi locked up now, but do you see the Clippers running it back with the rest of the Big Four? Obviously, PG seems like the next domino. They get PG straight.

Harden already took Les Bread with the Sixers. Do you think he stays in L.A.? Sees the other guys taking Les, says, I'm going to take a little Les, too. And then Westbrook has that player option, but do you see Westbrook saying, fuck the bread, I'm just going to stay here even though my minutes are diminished. I'm going to stay here and keep rolling

and not try to go chase one more bag. I mean, I... If I'm James... You got to get rid of Zubop, man. I mean, he's doing what we can presume to be doing what you all can do, but I just never liked that piece after a DeAndre Jordan and a Blake Griffin, seeing what they do at that position. You need a big that can be athletic and do certain shit.

That motherfucker might be the best clipper ever. He been there the longest. Feel like he been there through everybody. God damn. It's like, what do y'all like about Zuboff, man? He probably just, I mean, he just probably might be a worker, and he's cheap, you know, probably just does what he needs to do. I mean, they got two out of the four locked down so far.

I don't see Russ opting out if everyone's taking less money his four million is less money They got the one right? They just got a kawaii right now They have Russ if he opts in but but I'm saying he has for what I'm saying is if already taking pay cuz then he's Not gonna try to ask for more money when they have two people that they have to sign But so right now you have two out of the four. Because Russ will opt into his next deal. And then now you got... Because what are you going to go to the market and get? Four million a year? It's going to be about

how much James asked. So it's James and... Yeah, James and... But what I'm saying with Russ is if you see the diminished row, you sacrifice for this team if Russ still wants to play, right? I still want to not be relegated to playing 15, 16 minutes a game. So I'm going to opt out of my four million and didn't have somebody will give me two nah Nah, not to a worse team. No

He likes it he's having fun he's at home so and they got a chance and then This is his best situation okay for him For him mentally, yes. No pressure. Yeah, I think he'll opt in. And then so you just got, you know, dealing with Paul, George, and James. So right now Kawhi's 32, PG's 33, Harden 34, Westbrook 35. How long do we feel like this window? Very short. Three years? Two more years.

Two, 26? Yeah? Two more years. Two more years. Get that into it, dumb, up and up. You said it, everybody got two years. Everybody got two more years. Two more years, then it's up from there for the youngins. Zubac under contract next season for close to $12 million. Cheap.

Does he have enough value to make a move where you can get some pieces for him? You got to add another piece with him, like Norman? He's so cheap compared to everyone else. And then Norm Powell got two more years, he's making 19 million next year, 20.4 million. See? He's a good pickup. And I love Norm. I know, he's a good pickup, yeah. He be shooting at, like, Norm is making 20 million.

How can we have him over in the Lakers man? God damn Yeah Like that's what I'm saying. Like why can't we get him come here? Yo, bro. Come here. Oh, I should talk to him Hey you bones bones you too. Look we got listen. We got all the shots you need over here. Trust. Oh him and bones I'll be good. That's who that's the deal. that's That's who we need. We need that office. Y'all got too much office over here. Let's swap it out cuz they mentality is kill Yeah, that's what brahne. That's what bro. Yeah swap it out. Give me a cam Thomas Just I need a dude out there who just has no no thought process. Oh, yeah, which makes the deal is I oh That's what norm is I'm coming in. I'm saying I like it. That's why I say 20 million a year

I should have just but fuck up and just yeah I'm gonna shut up. We y'all things alone. I'm going pound. I'm not good. Yeah, I'm good. I'm 20 I got nothing to say to y'all All right, well, let's let's keep this thing moving we'll see you guys say Clippers window got a couple more season We'll see how pans out this year But shout out to quiet for getting that deal done and being healthy hopefully he can stay healthy Clippers 15 and 3 since December 1st best record in the league trending in the right direction this goes to a testament is you're worth what you get right so all the

people that say oh he's been hurt and y'all gonna're going to throw in how many games he's only played and, and, and this and try to say he's not worth it. But the problem is y'all don't know what he's doing at practice and every single day the owner does. So the owner paid him this because he sees, he sees the work ethic itself, right? It might not have panned out on the court yet, but the work ethic, the foundation is here, right? And that's sometimes what media and fans don't understand, right? He might not be playing, but he's here every day, 6 a.m. working on his body. It just ain't translated yet. So when I'm looking at he's a free agent all I see is If I pay him will there be a waste of money I'm gonna always pay a dude. He's putting that work in I'd eventually is gonna flip over and I'm gonna make my profit

And I was a lazy dude who ain't gonna give me nothing that's coming in late You know what I mean? So and obviously opening new arena, you want to make a big splash. So what better way than to have this crew come through, be the inaugural team. Regardless, however, this season pans out. But to sell tickets, obviously get some motion as they go back to Englewood, City of Champions. Englewood? Shout out Englewood. It's going to be crazy over there.

They got the football, the football over there. It's going to be crazy over there. They got like what? They got the football, the football over there. It's going to be crazy. They booting us out of there though. The airport over there. They booting us out. Trying to raise their property value. Shout out Furious Style. All right.

Now it's time for a new segment we're calling Facts or Cap. I'll give you guys a topic, then ask you some questions. You tell me if it's facts. Facts. Or cap. Stop the cap. it's facts. Facts. Or cap. Stop the cap. Let's talk R.J. Barrett. Knicks won 17 games prior to drafting R.J. Barrett third overall in 2019.

Last year, the Knicks won 47 games, won their first playoff series in a decade. After being traded to the Raptors, here's what Barrett told Mark Spears. He said, and I quote, I helped build something in New York. When I came there, we weren't good. I left it a lot better than when it started. Definitely bittersweet, but I'm happy for those guys over there. Leaving the Knicks, he said he was shocked by that.

He found out late in the game, but was at least happy to go back home to Toronto. So question, R.J. Barrett saying, I helped build something in New York, left it a lot better than when I started. Facts or cap? Facts. Cap. Facts. Cap.

Mr. B. Let's start with Mr. B. It was terrible when he got there, like you said. 17 wins. How long did that last? One year? Because when Melo left, what? They were still good when Melo was there, right? Like, how good?

Like, how good? Like, when he gets to the playoffs, good. So how long was their drought Oh before he got there. Yeah That's facts there. I saw a 10-year drought. No, that's facts. So I'll tell you other records up to 2013 to 2019 Or started in 2014 15 season. They were 17 to 65 32 50 31 and 51 29 and 53 Or starting in 2014-15 season, they were 17-65, 32-50, 31-51, 29-53. 17-65 the year before RJ got there.

His time with the Knicks, they were 21-45, 41-31, 37-45. And then last season, 47-35. Beat the Cavs in the first round. Lost to the Heat 4-2. Oh, wait, so it was three years? Yeah. Oh, wait, nah, cap. Cap, my bad, cap. Nah, cap, cap, cap.

Nah, fuck that. Rashad, you said cap. I said facts. Okay. I'm with him. He said 20-something, 40-something, and 36? Yeah, but just the way it looks when he got there and where it is now.

They look good compared to when he first got there. It was just him, almost. See, that's the problem. He was never the best player on the team yet. He wasn't. But it's like he's saying he contributed to the fact that they're where they are now. He ain't saying he was the guy when he got there. He's saying it was trash when I got here.

When did the Julius get there? Right. No, I'm about to say, when he got there, that's when... The year after, I think. I think Barrett did. When he got there, that's when it went to another level for them. Because, yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

They looked at him as the guy when he got there because he was coming from Duke. And he played good that last year They drafted him to be the guy So they both came in the same year, yeah, right so it's hard to take the credit Yeah, I mean, but you can say he helped. He was the guard version. He can help. I mean, he helped.

Julius Randle coming off an all-NBA selection last year. I'm just saying, like, Jalen Brunson emerging now. I mean, that's what I said. He got some help. But, I mean, obviously, unfortunately, they feel you probably is the weakest link out of them. They will make a trade. And that trade has them five and oh yeah right so whatever they they seen um that even though you're the youngest one out of

them they don't think you was panning out to be worthy that we we needed this guy to take our franchise to the next level so they they they got some somebody better that was fitting the the rest of the team yeah well like you said they had three lefties on one on the court at the same time so brandon you said cap rashad you said facts yeah gil you're the tiebreaker i'm in the middle because they you got two people coming in at the same time what i'm saying you got two people coming in at the same time yeah we spent 18 hours putting that audio cue together No, I'm just kidding. You got two people coming in at the same time, right? So They both have an equal handbook he's not the number one option in this one, okay, he's the first one gone He's a contributor doesn't was in you know, yeah, sure

So but I bet we can't say what his role was on helping the team in the environment itself But you know, that's something for the players to say that got part of it So we got a hung jury on this first topic injury. Let's move on to our next topic Draymond green spoke with the media recently cast his mindset as he gets said to make his return to the court When I look back on these situations, it's like, can you remove the antics? I'm very confident I can remove the antics. And I'm very confident if I do remove the antics, no one's worried about how I play the game of basketball.

You know, nobody's worried about how I carry myself in the game of basketball, but it's the antics. And so that's my focus. You know, it's not on changing who I am completely. Like, you don't change the spots on a leopard. Like, it's just not going to happen, and I'm not going to try to set some unrealistic expectation of, like, who's this person going to be?

Like, it's not real real and that's not sustainable. I've always said before, I know how to be me a lot better than I can be anyone else. But in saying that, can I accept the fact that my antics has been over the top? Of course. Can I remove those? Am I capable of removing those of course? All right, so Draymond saying I'm very confident I can remove the antics facts or cap Stop the cap Stop the cap Because if you could do it you would have did it

That means you consciously did it on purpose. Because you can do it. Therapy didn't work. So how do we know that though? I'm listening to him. He just said, I can do all this and control it and... Who was you talking to? Who was you talking to? Who was you talking to?

They had him on the virtual reality goggles talking to little teddy bears and shit. That's what he was doing. He ain't learn shit. He's going to do some shit when he get back out there because now I'm a coach. Let's go piss him off. Poke him. Let's go piss him off. Poke the bear.

Brandon. I mean, I believe in, you know, people changing and, you know, changing their ways. So I'm agreeing with him. So you're going to say facts. Yeah, I'm going to say facts. Gil, you're the tiebreaker once again. I mean, listen, he said he's capable of doing it, right? He didn't say he was going to do it. He just said, I'm capable.

That's what I'm saying. I have the capability of doing it. That's what I'm saying. Right? If I decide not to choke a motherfucker, I cannot choke him. But I'm not saying I won't choke him. I will bet. I'm not going to choke a nigga still.

Depending on the circumstances is all I'm saying. That's true. That's all he was saying. He's like, yeah, I'm capable of doing anything I want but I won't It better be a European mob. I'll tell you that. Like, I don't think he'll get himself kicked out. I think usually when he gets kicked out, he just wanted to provoke the crowd and do all that. I think he'll finish the rest of the season without getting kicked out.

Is he going to get text? For sure. He's going to get his one tech. So on the first question Draymond saying I'm very confident I can remove that the antics the consensus is cap cap Stop the cap All right now I've been doing my follow-up question you already got your your opinion on the subject During Draymond will finish this season without another suspension. Facts or cut?

How many games we got left? About 40. It only took him six games to do this shit again? He's got about 46 games left. It took him six games to get back and then do this shit again.

That's a higher lower. 46? That's a higher lower for sure. Suspended? I don't think he gets suspended anymore. Oh, suspended now. So how many more texts do we get before he gets suspended? Our research team will look that up.

46 games left. Because he's up there with the texts, right? Nah. For the suspension? Not if there's 46 games left. I don't think he's that close yet then. I think he's that close yet then. I think he's going to chill out this year and then ramp it up next year.

But what's chill out for Draymond Green? Like no suspension. So not even a one game for whatever. Yeah. So what if somebody do what they did to Klay again? That's a tough question. I'm just saying, man. That's a tough question. Hey, hey. That's a tough question. If I'm on the other. That's a tough question. Hey, hey. That's a tough question.

If I'm on the other team, I'm trying to pick fights. Looney! Get him. Looney's like, no, no, I got a bag. I got a bag. So Draymond would need 16 more texts this season to get- 16 total. He has four.

Oh, shit. Yeah. 12 more. Okay. Yeah, that's what I said. I don't, yeah. He's been gone. Shit, he can't get a check if he's suspended. Like, it's costing him too much money.

You know, no matter how you look at it, it costs a lot now. Yeah, but. Like, to do what he did. Back in the day, it was $25. I think it's. It's $25. It's more than the cost than it is. It's hitting his legacy. It's starting to.

We're starting to look at him with his antics more than we we starting to look at what he does on the floor like Draymond is not being Draymond that helped the Warriors win championships. That's his legacy. His legacy is a bully. Bully with four rings just like Dennis Rodman. There's nothing Dennis Rodman was gonna do that was gonna change who he is. What Draymond Green brings he's a bully. That's not gonna change. He wasn't bullying until after that last championship. We never paid attention because he was always winning, so we just focused on Splash Brothers and like... We were just paying attention, but we were just enjoying it.

We were just paying attention, we were just like... We didn't mind it. Look, when teams aren't performing well, somebody got to take, hey, one of these. But does that distract him from being who he was for the championship team? Because we don't see that out there no more. Like the guy that could hit the open three, the guy that can facilitate, you can't drop off him. He's throwing lobs to people. He's getting everybody's involved. I think he's been distracted with the antics.

And now it's like, can you separate the antics and get back to your old form? Because it ain't been injuries that's stopping you. It's been this mental. So get back to the form of who we consider Draymond Green to be a whole Hall of Famer. Like, we haven't seen the shell of that in a while. And it's like, you would rather be the bully now than to be the guy that we like. You're saying now, but he's been bullied the whole time. He bullied Kevin

Love. It wasn't his M.O., though. It wasn't like, I'm going out there to be the bully. It's like, I'll bully this soft-ass nigga Kevin Love because he's soft. It wasn't like that when he was there. When he was there? When he was calling him bitch? The dude wasn't acting like that when I was there.

Remember, that's when he kicked the Adam Adam in the balls the the Steven Adams when he was an OKC Remember he bullied him. That's how they came back Kicking people in the chamber with LeBron. He got kicked out of that series for trying it. He's been there He's been there the whole time. We just we was so focused on the splash We was we was that we was looking at the light skin but we see the pit bull in a rock while over there in the back in the bushes so now we see it because they losing and that's my issue it's like it's this distraction now because we

can't see that your value was what you were doing outside of being a bully man if I'm punching motherfuckers when we winning, I'm punching motherfuckers when we losing. And I'm going to do it even more when we losing. Because y'all going to run your mouth now that we losing. So I got to put hands on you. Remember what he was doing to Paul Pierce? Y'all forget that? You thought you was Kobe.

You remember when Paul Pierce sit on the bench with the Clippers? You ain't do no farewell, sir. And he was like, yeah. Like, ooh, we doing that today. That was mean-spirited to an L.A. legend, Paul Pierce. Same dude. He's been there. Englewood, S. Curl, Paul Pierce.

So I need a consensus on this. Draymond will finish this season without another suspension. Are we saying facts or are we saying cap? I'm saying facts. I don't think he gets suspended again Facts Facts You got two to one

Last let's keep it warrior centric Steph has had some tough nights this season Including a nine point performance And a home loss to the Raptors on Sunday That was his second single digit Performance of the season When asked about Steph having to carry this Warrior squad, Steve Kerr had this to say. We've thrown a ton on his shoulders.

You know, the burden that Steph Curry has on him for this franchise is unfair. You know, the Draymond suspension, you know, Draymond is the vocal leader of the team, obviously, right? He and Steph have kind of been, you know, co-captaining the leadership with our group for a decade. So without Draymond here, that adds a lot more to Steph's plate. This guy has carried our torch for over a decade. And everything we've built is really based on him. And so we're putting too much on his plate right now. All right. So Steve Kerr saying the burden that Steph Curry has on him for this franchise is unfair.

Facts or cap? Facts. Facts. Well, make a fucking trade then. Shit. The fuck? I mean trade then. Shit, the fuck? I mean, that's how you do that? Like, make a trade. Mike Dunleavy, have some balls.

Go make a trade then. The hell? Why you give up Kevin Durant? Is this a part of the game, though? Like, if we're comparing stuff to other stars, like, say, ones that may be playing Los Angeles, those teams that may be struggling in recent years, do they not have to carry a similar burden?

Absolutely. It's just so weird to hear him talk about just random ass shit that's like, what the fuck, Steve? Of course it's going to be unfair. He's fucking Steph. He's a generational player. Arguably the greatest point guard of all time.

Yeah, it's up to you to lighten the load for him. You as a coach, not the organization. You as a coach. And Kerr did acknowledge in that same press conference that some of his rotations haven't really allowed Steph to flourish the way he has in years past.

Or getting rid of Jordan fucking Poole, the guy who was the offset for Steph Curry. He could sit longer on the bench knowing Jordan Poole was the guy who was the offset for Steph Curry, he could sit longer on the bench knowing Jordan Poole was going to get his rocks off. Letting KD get away was crazy. And letting KD get away. Just because of some turmoil in the locker room

that you could not handle and you could not control. I just think Steve Curry ran away from accountability too much and no one's calling him out for it. It's getting on my fucking nerves, man. No, he just said it. I mean, he did go to the university. But he's still not trying to take on it.

He's not taking on it. He's not saying I need to do a better job of lightening the load for Steph. It's unfair. No, I don't think this is about lightening. This ain't about lightening the load. I think he's saying that it's unfair at this point in his career

With the players he has the other champions, right that he He is doing all of this right He's doing all of this steel By himself, right? We have this was a three-headed monster. Yes. And right now, instead of, it's just a one-headed monster. It was a one-headed monster in the playoffs. And it's a one-headed monster right now. And it's unfair for us to keep riding his shoulder. And it's like, yo, y'all need to be, can we step up?

But he's not saying that to them. That's what I'm saying. You gotta say it to your other guy, Clay. I need you to fucking step up. We don't know what he's saying. He's not... He's having a conversation. He can't tell us what he's saying. Remember, they had a conversation. But he's

saying in the public that Steph is doing too much. But say in the public that I need my other guys to step up. But he did acknowledge the Draymond situation, how much that's hurt the squad. He also acknowledged that some of his rotations, again, haven't put Steph in the best position to cook this season.

Clay's been struggling this year. Andrew Wiggins has been struggling this year. Yeah, see, that's the unfair part. You got him in Saudi Arabia. Where was he at? Saudi? Running up the sand, getting his ass in shape and doing all this.

And we're like, all right, yeah, this is about to be our year. And then you're like, oh, so you want to have a bad year? You want to have a bad year too? You want to get suspended? Here we go again. Here we go again. You know what I mean? Oh, my God.

So are we saying facts or cap on that? I need a consensus. The burden that Steph Curry has on him for this franchise is unfair. It's unfair. For me, facts. Facts. So bringing my next question. You know, Steph and LeBron have been compared a lot during their career.

Some people say it's LeBron era. Some people said Steph came in and made it his era. Does Steph be held to the same standard that a LeBron James is held to in situations like this? Nah. What? What? Uh-huh.

Yeah. Wait, what standard is that? When is LeBron being held? Like the standard of? If LeBron's teams are trash, LeBron is carrying that burden, right? Or no? No, we don't know. We just blame other guys. We blame other guys. That's what I was going to say. He never gets blamed. He never gets blamed.

We're trained in narratives. I'm saying the perception though is that if the Lakers don't make the playoffs, they don't go far in the playoffs. It's because of LeBron. Even with the janky foot last year they got swept Western Conference finals but then that's a different thing because that means they that's a compliment then hmm that's a compliment and history history proves that this is a compliment to LeBron James that when you complain that he complains about his team as being bad at the age of 39, that means y'all still hold him at this high level that he

should impact the game, but the greatest player of all time was playing at 38, 39 on the Wizards, and y'all didn't hold him to no fucking standards. Y'all looked at that team, said, oh, these motherfuckers, sorry. Oh, yeah, they're not good.

Jordan just played. It was his last year. Jordan just played. Two years. He played two years. See, it's an exception for that. Jordan just played. I know there's an exception.

What's the exception, though? Huh? What's the exception? Because the team sucked? No, we just wanted to see Michael Jordan again. That's it. We had no expectation. It was like Mike's back.

Because the last time we seen him, it was like, we never gonna see him again. And Mike got so fucking bored that it's like, I could go out there and still fuck around and get 20 on y'all. So we didn't have an expectation that he would even get 20. We didn't even have that expectation.

He surprised us with that. So he surprised you to average 20. Yeah. And then at the same age, one's averaging 25. We're not surprised. We didn't take a break. We're talking about, oh man, he's old. One is still trying to get a championship at 30.

Mike was done winning championships. He still started winning championships. He never lost in the finals. He had never lost. He was undefeated. I'm done. But was done winning championships. You still started winning championships. Yeah, he never lost in the finals. He had never lost. He was undefeated. I'm done. But that's the problem. You're making an excuse. You're making an excuse for the same age.

No, we're not, because he retired, Gilbert. He retired twice at this point. He ain't retired. Your boy ain't retired at all. It means he has better legs. No, it doesn't. It means that he ain't have a reason to retire. He didn't win six straight finals. He didn't win six straight to be able to say, I'm ready to get the fuck out of here. What does that got to do with the accountability?

If you're going to hold LeBron James to the standard of taking your team to a championship at 38, 39, 39, 40, then when Jordan had a team at 39 to 40, we just like, okay, he's 39 to 40. But you didn't go and put a bunch of... What did we do? He's 39 to 40. He wasn't supposed to be doing this. You didn't go and get a bunch of good players

to put around Jordan and Washington, bro. The fact that they did the following year, he went and got Ventry. He got Stackhouse. He did a whole bunch of trades to make the playoffs. He didn't go get an Anthony Davis, bro. They won a championship there. We're talking about

38-39. That means today. Right? Him today. Jordan went and got a team to try to make the playoffs. They didn't make the playoffs. No one cared. They're like, oh yeah, 39 is over. Farewell tour. Farewell tour. But they were supposed to make the playoffs that year.

Who said that? They did. Who was they? Who was they? Nobody was expecting the Wizards to go. You wasn't even in the league then. I was in high school. We all was watching. We was not expecting the Washington Wizards to make it in the league then. I was in high school. Yeah, high school. We all was in high school. We was not expecting the Washington Wizards to make it to the fucking playoffs, bro.

They traded Rip Hamilton, got rid of him. That's what Kwame Brown complains about. They messed his career up because they went and got an Oakley. They got all these veterans to win and go to the playoffs and They didn't and that's when Stackhouse said I didn't come over here to sit behind no 39 year old man I'm the man on his team and those two was bumping heads. They did but nobody cared that they was losing games No, because it's the wizard because he was okay. So if you if Jordan would have went to the Lakers He was 30. Maybe you went to the Lakers 39 out of the Wizards We would be happy not what I'm using this as what I'm saying is why aren't we holding the 39 year old to the 39?

year old if you white a You jaywalk and get probation and then black kid Jaywalk same Street and he gets 10 years that shit ain't fair right unless he has some dope on him and get probation, and then black kid jaywalks same street, and he gets 10 years, that shit ain't fair, right? Unless he had some dope on him. 38, he didn't. 38 and 39,

38 and 39, is the same thing. Hey, look at you, you got some dope on him, man. It should be the same argument. We should be doing the same thing. Sitting back, enjoying the game that these 38, 39-year-olds.

It's not the same, I hear. No, it's not. Because y'all hold LeBron at a higher standard. It's because Jordan retired twice. He don't have to win no more. With the pressure left. What you talking about? LeBron needs to win.

He trying to. He's trying to win a ring. LeBron's not planning to win a ring. Jordan was trying to make the playoffs. He wasn't trying to win no ring, though, man. He was trying to make the playoffs he was Michael Jordan is here playing at 40 you motherfuckers need to step your game up if he a best player on our team at 40 You got to step your fucking game. I can best player It don't matter if Michael Jordan at 40 got to come out of retirement to make this team say, man, yeah, come

on, man. He was trying to prove a point. He was trying to prove a point. If LeBron James is the best player at 39, y'all should look in the mirror. You see how you get to do the same thing at the same age? What? If LeBron is the best player on the team at 39 years old,

then you have a fucking problem, don't you? No, you don't. If Jordan is the best player on the team at 39 years old, then you have a fucking problem, don't you? No, you don't. If Jordan was the best player on the Wizards at that age, that means your team sucks. It's something wrong. If Curry is the best player at 39. The team sucks regardless. The team sucks regardless. Hold the same standard at 39.

But let's talk about. Don't say, well, LeBron is 39. He should be winning championships. No, he's trying to win a championship obviously in season. Because that's how good he still is. He's going hard as hell. That's how good he still is at that age. But let's talk about... Alright. We got four.

We got four. Sit down. Sit down. Let's talk about Steph here and a testament to Steph's greatness that at 35 that Steph at age 35 is still expected to carry the burden of this Warrior squad. And what does that mean for him as a player? Well, I want to see what happens at 39 then. He probably won't play to 39.

I think he'll still... Sorry, he didn't need to play to 39. Yeah, I don't think that motherfucker's that bored if he keeps playing to that 39. Steph got all the laptops from NBA. You got to be bored. You be like, man... The NBA ain't getting... Listen, listen... See what they do to 39 now? You see what they do to 39? Listen, I don't care. Listen, David Stern gave Bron the gun NBA ain't getting, listen. You see what they do to 39 now? You see what they do to 39? Listen, I don't care.

Listen, David Stern gave Bron the gun. He didn't give it to everybody. You see what they do at 39. Steph Curry had to put the, go in the NBA office, get the, with the black hoodies on, take his friends, go get all the laptops. Yep. The NBA ain't getting the laptops until Steph Curry's done hooping. If y'all want to fuck around. Yeah, fucking around.

New history. New history. But they're only four years apart apart so I think it's a testament to both their greatness like I'm just being honest Steph at 35 to be able to do what he's doing is still expected to carry the burden 35 this is the best player on the team doing all of this

at the age of 35 when that was retirement age right so the fact that they are playing at this high ass level Me I'm saying this is how great they are because they can play at this high ass level when the rest of y'all was retired I mean the training is better the training is better. No no no no the training is better. They are there is more money They're taking their body

They're handling it, but they're not out drinking like the motherfuckers was doing before but that's what I'm saying So yeah, they're taking care of their body the more money there the resources everything is better more discipline But Mike being able to play at 39th with all that liquor and I mean, come on man. Before the game. No, no. On the way to the game. I'm going to say before the game. On the way to the game. Very impressive. No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, so can I ask y'all a question, dude?

What's up? Which one is more impressive, right? The one who's taking care of his body, eating right, averaging 25 at that age, or the one who drinks every night, parties, cigars, smoking, right? Averaging 20. I'm going to take Michael Jordan. I'm going to take Michael Jordan's career. Michael Jordan, right? I'm going to take Michael Jordan's career.

I need six of them things. What I'm saying is you would say that that's more impressive because he's doing it that, I mean, he came out of retirement, took two a month to get in shape. Well, shit shit to get in shape to average 20. That's impressive for 39 It depends on what supplements you take it man So can I so that's the problem? So are we gonna say that Michael Jordan was on something to do that? I know he was oh It was actually he was on he was on protein shakes do that? I know he was. Oh, shit. Allegedly. He was on protein shakes and motherfucking energy drinks.

Michael Jordan was on that straight yak. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It depends on what supplement you're taking that's going to get you invigorated. It's going to get you out there and get you motivated. Michael Jordan was what? Hey, man, let me get a steak, potatoes.

Let me get that cigar, let me get my motherfucking yak, and I'm in here and I'll be in the back. And when I'm ready to go, the black cat gonna show up and bite. Listen, this is what we do. I'm just, no Ling Ling. No Ling Ling. So what I'm saying is when people are questioning LeBron for this, what we're seeing,

is like, well, Jordan's year was more impressive. Because he didn't take care of his body. He didn't go to the gym at 12. He drinking all night, came in, dropped 20. No one questioned how he was doing at that. It's just a freak of nature.

Sometimes freak of natures don't need it because they're freak of natures. Or you just know how to play the game in basketball. Or you're just pound for pound. That easy. So I don't want to hear no more that we've never seen something like this, and we don't need to question what someone's doing when Michael Jordan already set the standard and didn't take care of his body, and he was still averaging 20 in the NBA. So then that's what we're going to say, that LeBron has to take care of his body to even equate to Mike,

because Mike just walked out there on the floor. Hey, Boobie Miles, I'm just here. I'm here. Okay, cool. I'm here. Hey, LeBron, are you done? Are you done working out for your third time today? Did you get in your hyperbaric chamber?

Did you get all your shit straight? Well, that takes care of all the other rumors then. Yeah, you see, that was easy. No, but he said that. He does the hyperbaric chamber. He did all this stuff and spent a million dollars. Yeah, Mike didn't have to do none of that shit. Mike ain't had to do that.

He playing. Mike ain't had to do that. And then, but everyone say he's on drugs. And then you got one drinking, smoking, potting, doing, doing, doing. He's averaging 20. He ain't taking care of shit. Brandon, you just said pound for pound, right? Right.

Yeah. I want to hit that for a little bit. So, Brandon, you just said pound for pound, right? Right. I want to hit that for a little bit. So, Brandon, you made a bold proclamation recently to the Gills Arena crew saying that you were the best pound for pound hooper on the show. Now, while we can't say if that's facts or cap. Wait, what? He said he's the best pound for pound hooper. Gil, let me get through my read. I've been practicing.

I must not have been here when he said that. What episode was this? It was at your meal. It was at your meal. I was drunk. You was. You didn't hear it. No, I don't think he heard him when he said it. He said he was on the other end of the table He said the best. I thought he was talking about you Best pound for pound for pound for all his stuff. That's what y'all was going back and forth right? Yeah So Jeff Teague and the club 520 crew weighed in on at least one of your potential matchups

Rashad McKenzie said he could guard Brandon Jennings I wanted to say something about that Brandon Jennings. I wanted to say something about that. Brandon Jennings would have fried that nigga. At any given time. Big Jennings would really like that.

Not saying Rashad McKenzie used to be like that. Hard. Yeah, for sure. No disrespect. But in an NBA game, Brandon Jennings would ride Rashad.

I've guarded Brandon Jennings, bro. I remember my rookie year, nigga, he played, we played him in the playoffs. He was playing for the Bucs. And he was torturing Bibby and them. Like, he was hooking. bucks and he was torturing bibby and now like he was cooking we thought we was gonna lose the series we ended

up winning but he took it he was on a fast break he went behind his back by bibby and laid it in and he ran by the bench and he was like you better get in nigga you better get in he's a whole motherfuckers can't fuck with me and kept running up the court and nigga i'm not even close to getting in the game i'm at the end of the bench with no insoles in like I know I ain't good man and I've seen that and I was like damn this nigga he gone he the he the one you know what I mean like he's special bro so end of the bench with no insoles in you know it wasn't but Mr. B why are you the best pound-for-pound hooper in Gil's arena? A lot. I've been great since 11. I've been great since 11.

If I don't tear my Achilles, I never know what it comes to feel like to come off the bench. I was a starting point guard for all those years. And, yeah, I came right into the league. If I don't tear my Achilles, I'm a two-time All-Star, 100 million, everything. So pound-for-pound, just rolling out the ball. I'm better than all y'all Rashad and Gil It's not even close. I Don't even know a pound. What was pound for pound just rolling out the ball There's rolling out the ball. Hey, what would anyone we talked about? It was I don't know. I don't know. Explain what it was. I thought it was them two one on one. Pound for pound. Pound for pound. That's what Gypsy was talking about.

You said it's high school, college and NBA. All three categories. I mean, high school. Your whole body of work between the three. Yeah, your whole body of work. That's what you said. But like when they say Mayweather pound for pound. That's what you consider pound for pound. It's just pound for pound is like pound for pound is just rolling out the ball like A.I. Like Jamal Crawford. Because ain't no nigga that's a buck 70 can even step near me. You better call for help. I thought this was just them who can guard

who. I mean, yeah. I mean, well, that's already been taken care of, but we're talking about on the couch stuff. He said, Brandon Jennings, Mr. B, pound for pound, I'm the best hooper in Gil's arena. Well, unfortunately, we already got the answer

who was better in high school. He had to see that coach this weekend when we were at the game. What did the coach say? What did he say? Gil was too much for him? I would have gave him 70, 80 and locked him up. The legend dark steps. I was faster. He didn't say nothing

about that. I was faster. You didn't say nothing about that. I was about that We see dark we seen dark this weekend Listen I was I was stronger, bigger, faster, meaner. Meaner? Yeah. Faster? Yeah.

Stop. Stop, stop. No, we got to stop the cap. Like, you wasn't even good at, in the 10th grade, I used to play at UCLA with the NBA players. You weren't even good enough to get on the court at that time, in the 10th grade. Stop. Stop. Stop. Go ask Rico.

He said you were still on JV. Go ask Rico. Go ask Gilroy. Go ask Marcus Williams. Go ask Paul Pierce, Baron Davis. You couldn Go ask Rico. Go ask Rico. Go ask Marcus Williams. Go ask Paul Davis. You couldn't even go. I was right there. I was in the 10th grade at UCLA hooping. I was there with Mitchell Butler. What you talking about? You weren't even good enough. You weren't even good enough at that age.

You weren't even good enough at that age. What? They had to change the rule here for me. He couldn't even get on the court at UCLA. 10th grade, high school, you got to be in the league. That's how nice I was. They had to change the rule. They had to change the rule here. We didn't have a shot.

They had to put a shot clock. I'm in the fucking history of basketball. When it comes to basketball, I'm in the history of it. Every kid getting paid right now because of me. Pound for pound. Best nigga on his couch. Stop it. You see this face when I'm making... His coach said it. Stop it. Pound for pound.

His coach said it. He didn't go to college. Pound for pound. He didn't go to college. That gives me that. Yeah, that's what I told him. So that's two. That's two.

Hey, how many Sports Illustrated covers you made? What'd I need to do that for? Answer the question. What'd I need to do that for? Answer the question. What'd I need to do that for? Huh? What'd I need to do that for?

Because they look at you like you're the best player. Well, I went overseas. I went overseas. Why you over there? Guess what we doing over here? I went overseas. I went overseas. Why are you over there? Guess what we doing here. I went overseas, didn't play, still came back top ten. You know what we was doing? I went overseas, didn't play, still came back top ten.

That's how good I was. What kind of covers have you made? I did grace the one. That's how good I was. And my sister did too. Okay. Me and my sister both grace covers. Double trouble.

You know what I'm saying? And that was just in college. Well, shit, y'all better be happy. Well, shit, y'all better be happy. I don't bust your ass too. I don't bust both of y'all. What are you talking about? We know you like playing against girls.

We know you like playing against girls. Bring both of them a kiss. No, no. Bring both of them motherfuckers over here. I'll do you all in the mouth. You might be hurt. I don't give a fuck how y'all want to hurt. You might be hurt.

You might be hurt. I'd have barbecued you the whole bloodline. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, you better put some meat on them bones, boy. You better put some meat on them bones, because I don't like to down the stash and shit in high school and all that kind of shit. Hey, forget the high school. If I went to college, I would have been a better cosplayer than all y'all. Than who?

What? First year, I'm out of there, Arizona. First year, I'm out of there. Me, Gerald Bayless, Jordan Hill, Chase Butter, I'm out of there. First year, all that. Leak. I can't. Leak. But unfortunately, you didn't play, so I'm out of there. Freshman of the year, all that. Leak. I can't. Leak.

But unfortunately, you didn't play, so I win that too. Did you have any coaches? I was good enough. I didn't have to go to college. Did you have any coaches try to stop you? Huh? Do you have any coaches try to stop you? Stop me?

Stop you from doing what you were doing. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. You know why? No coach could ever stop me because... No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Because you wasn't a threat. No, I'm not... Because you wasn't a threat,, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, What you talking about sitting on the bench? What did I say to you, man? What did I say to you? Who was sitting on the bench? Huh? You talking about NBA?

No, yeah, you. No, I'm talking about college. Oh, because I was hoping you said you can get in the game. Okay, okay, let's go here. Because I averaged 34 this year. Let's go here. Let's go here then. Because, you know, Gil, you took a certain path to get to where you went, right?

You took it round and you had the red shirt. Nah, nigga. I had a red shirt. In college you didn't have a red shirt? I thought you said you had to- No, no, no, he was supposed to red shirt me. I had other ideas. Oh, okay cool. Other ideas, you know what I mean? My coach was calling me while I was in high school saying, we wish we can get you

now. It wasn't no, we was supposed to, we was supposed to red shirt you. Ain't no question. The red shirt who? Nigga nigga what? We led the pack boy We do this Diaper dandy all I know is where they saying diaper dandy to you

man, McCann shoot from Bangladesh Jay Billis said his Jumpshot is his equivalent to Tiger Woods golf swing Okay, nigga shot is equivalent to Tiger Woods golf swing. Okay. Nigga, what the fuck y'all talking about? You better go back. Quick, long, slow. Accurate, nigga. Yeah, yeah. You know 10-1 accurate? Huh? Yeah. Huh?

When you was a freshman, did you win any awards? All ACC, boy. No, I mean, did you win any awards, like MVPs of anything? Listen, man, go check the stats. I'm did you win any awards like MVPs of anything? Listen man go check the stats I'm asking you I'm in the Carolina and ACC record books. I know so ACC I'm all time now. This is a disdain space with you and see this Is your jersey in Arizona or after say that okay?

Okay, you did two years. You did two. You did two. Listen, if you hear every Arizona player who's the best player ever there, they say me. That's funny. Arizona is not one of the best universities ever, boy. Because I was a red shirt. Get the shit out of here. I was supposed to be a red shirt.

I was not. The point guard, the three, the four, the five were McDonald's All-Americans. I was ranked 100. By the time they did. You was ranked what? 100. God damn. I know.

God damn. You got a lot of work to do. A lot of work to do. So how much work did I do to be the best player on the team? I don't fucking know. I don't know, Gilbert. What kind of work did I do? I don't fucking know, Gilbert.

The work you was just doing to come down here? A lot. You was doing all that work. You see all that work you had to put in? See all that work you had to put in just to come down here and sweat and try to prove something? I didn't get it all. I had to put a bunch of work. Ladies and gentlemen, another spirit of the day. I had to put a bunch of work in.

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Where'd you get from no I was preseason in IT MVP boy Nigga you're not get out of here with that shit, man. Fuck out. Remember, you're a great NBA player, man, but don't do this shit. Hold on. So the coach called you. Don't do this shit. The coach called you.

Don't do this shit. The coach called you, right? Don't do this shit. You was that man. I was that man. I was 100, but we both got the same award. We both got the same award. What that mean the same award, but I was a nobody. Yeah.

You had to work, nigga. And I did. I did what I was expected to do. You did the unexpected. Do you know the difference? So who's... Hey, Si, you came in here as the number one shooting guard, and you supposed to lead us. Then the first five games of the season, huh, we play against number two Kansas number 18 Stanford blue a motherfucking brains out. Who is it?

It's that boy McCann saying this we number one we here I'm here motherfuckers One little MVP in the preseason. What'd you do? I led my team to the chip. And the next year, my sophomore year, I averaged 20 in games. You went to your freshman year? 25 in the ACC. I was the first sophomore to ever lead Carolina in scoring. As a sophomore. You know who went to the school there?

Okay. Don't make me. But that's the problem. You got all these accolades. It was all this, but we got the same awards. Don't make me. I ain't shit now. I ain't shit now.

No, no. We talking about college. Back then. I mean, I was. Back then. Back then. I know that. They had to let me in.

Yes. They got parked in the front. I parked in the back. I parked in the front. But we got. You know who was in the front? Everybody. Everybody in the front. Now move the fuck out the way. McCance is pulling up. And we got the same. Nigga. Damn, I missed the back. I parked in the front. But we got the same- You know who was in the front? We got the same- Everybody. Everybody in the front. Y'all move the fuck out the way.

McCance is pulling up. And we got the same- Nigga. Damn, I missed the college. Fuck that. It was a fun experience. I missed it. I had a 3.6 GPA just throwing that in there. I missed it. That's the funny part. Nigga, they had to sabotage. And he ranked us number one shooting guard in the country. But we got the same trophy.

We ain't got the same shit. You- I won. I won. You ain't got no championship. We got the same trophy. We ain't got the same shit you Gilbert huh? Where's your championship? I don't know. I was all right. We ain't get the same shit. I got draft We ain't get the same shit. I don't know Yeah, yeah, you lost in the championship, but you sophomore year. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't... You lost in the championship game. What'd you do your sophomore year? I won 20 a game, bro. No, but what... Did you was in the championship? Yeah.

You won the championship? What'd you win? You win the championship in your sophomore year? No, no, no. We was second round. Oh, y'all went to the second round in your sophomore year.

Yes. All hell, McCants. Led his team to the second round. Yes. Gilbert Arenas led his team to the championship and then I left. You had to go back to school

one more year, right? No, I didn't have to go. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Oh, you didn't? You went to draft?a Arenas, led his team to the championship, and then I left. You had to go back to school one more year, right? No, I didn't have to go. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Oh, you didn't? You went to the draft? What pick was it? I literally had a conversation with World Wide West.

Hey, look, man. They got me top ten, but I want to be top two. Or you're going to have to stay another year and win a championship shot. Damn, I really don't want to deal with this nigga again, but you're right. Let's do it. Wait, top ten? Top ten. If you would have left? My you were to let my second year i'm out i'm legacy the brother i'm a legacy bro i'm a legacy he wasn't ready i was ready when i was

in high school i was ready when i was in high school he was an all-american all right he was an all-american i was ready when i was i was ranked 100 and left my sophomore year How was the number one shooting guard Right. Use the number one shooting guard you supposed to make it make Make it make 15 players in high school basketball supposed to be one and doing make it No, I was the boy Now you're tapping I want to be red shirt Yeah I was supposed to be red shirted play five years in college and I left after my sophomore don't cap Don't care says more about my work ethic has nothing to do with anything else. Okay, there you go and I left there you go

Huh? You go. I can't talk about my junior year because I was in NBA And you know, we can't talk about you know, we can't talk about starting player in my I got one Oh, I got one. Don't what you you were ready. You're okay. Yeah, play the month. Yeah. Yes, sir Oh, I thought she was on the bench saying, oh yeah, Vince Carter got me sitting here thinking about not playing no more. Oh my God, I'm not supposed to be here. I got to go in the gym. You know there's six months of basketball? You know there's six months?

You hear this nigga just be capping, my nigga. He can't beat me head up in no debate. No shooting. No, nothing He got a brilliant bullshit Everybody know and he moved a goalpost every fucking time he losing But is it there's you know, then he go play against the girl to go validate this year. I played for a girl played for God in here game So let's say did not play did not play did not talking about minutes eight minutes did not play three minutes did not play did not play four minutes

You don't want to hear did not play four minutes three minutes six minutes Did not play did not play did not play right so I did not play my then eventually what happened I played it when I played rookie the man I'm sorry he was in college though all right this is a good place to play I was playing them all why you think I remember we hear that a man a good place to move yeah that was the probably was looking at that work yep Campbell told you Let's go to her Bocci time Your favorite show gills represent my underdog fantasy download that views promo code

You'll get the $100 deposit match from the folks at underdog fantasy so you can see more conversations like this Very spirited very heated, but these men love each other leave me the fuck alone Gilbert cameras cut off You ever notice how I started and then they get going and then it's like all right Yeah, you go y'all take these fucking hate my good He can hit me with his car, he would. Is that him? Is that him? Melly! Run that nigga over!

If I hit you, I'm going to argue. Run him over! Because he's going to survive. He's going to see his ass tomorrow. Oh, yeah, he's going to will his ass. He's going to see his ass. He's going to hit that nigga. Burn, burn!

But these gentlemen all love each other. Let's keep it moving. Oh, shit. Lakers have won two straight games to snap in a four-game losing streak, But these gentlemen all love each other. Let's keep it moving. Lakers have won two straight games since snapping a four-game losing streak, and Anthony Davis has been hooping. So AD gave the Raptors a season-high 41 points, including 20 in the fourth quarter. Also dropped 11 rebounds, 6 assists.

Came up with some huge defensive plays. So AD averaging 30 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 2.3 blocks, and 1.4 steals in his last 14 games. And let's just watch a bunch of AD cooking. Crunch time, give me those. Great block. You know, someone on the Raptors side would have been begging for a foul there. We as Lakers fans, we do not. We appreciate the foul just bearing. So also during this 14-game stretch, he's shooting 60% from the field, 42% from the three. Not shooting a lot of threes, but shooting them very effectively.

So we've got a tweet here from the legend Raj Seed, a devout Lakers fan and analyst from the All Access Lakers crew. He said, I'd argue this is ADs best stretch of basketball in his Laker career I'm not going to disagree with that, but I got to ask you start with you first Gil How concerning is it that the Lakers are five and nine during this ad stretch five and ten overall including the game He missed against the Spurs It's not concerning. I mean, you know, this whole thing was from the last two years. We complained about ad being Inconsistent he's been consistent. So that's the most important part that he's doing his job

Y'all good we good. I mean, you know me I mean, you know, I've been telling y'all what ad I told y'all give him some time Yeah, I was hating on him. Yeah, never supported him. I was. No, no, they weren't. Yeah, they were. I was kidding. Haters just misguided love, Gil. I mean, we wanted to contribute to wins, don't we? Huh? You want his performances to contribute to wins, don't you?

Well, that's not on him. I'm asking. Yeah. Right? So if it's not. But at least he's playing well. I mean, for a Laker fan. He hasn't been injured.

But for a Laker fan. He's making his sister not being injured, you know. Yeah, for a Laker fan, he's making a system with not being injured. You know? Yeah, for a Laker fan, I like the numbers, but if you're still fucking losing, it still don't fucking matter. Yeah, right.

But for a Laker fan, you're still on the positive side. You want me to give you a standing ovation when LeBron pulls to give you the keys and this is supposed to be the new guy

supposed to lead us to the next generation and win, win, win. Like Shaq said, if you ain't fucking bringing no real championship, get the fucking Mickey Mouse shit out of here.

Get this fucking in-season shit out of here. Bring us a real title. Bring us a real title. So if you're not bringing us a real title, I'm not saying he needs to necessarily up his performance

in his, like, to Joel Embiid shit, but it need to contribute to wins. It need to contribute to wins. It need to contribute to wins. Otherwise, it's being overshadowed. Like, yeah, it look good, numbers, but if you find me in it, it don't look good when you losing. He's playing well.

And that's what Laker fans want. I mean, to be honest, I mean, it's more impressive. Like, you at least want to, you at least like, okay. He's finally where we would like him to be. I mean, two on five is impressive. It is, it is. It's not. You know, it's over when you're not winning.

I'm about to say, I just seen somebody this weekend play one on three. Luke? No, I just seen Gil's son this weekend play one on three. We are under dark fantasy. It's rough, right? It's rough. I'm just saying, like, you can, hey man, you can get it, you can get it.

So no concern at all, do we think we can keep this pace going for the rest of the season? And how concerning is it now? Let's just say, Lakers 19-19, 10th at the West, 80 playing at this level, playing at an all-NBA level, playing at a potential defensive player of the year level.

And for whatever the reasons are, you know, I'm sure we could point to some. I mean, the Lakers need to make a move. Ben needed to make a move. You know what time it is. Make a move.

I just want to see our best five out there so we can see what we have. Right? Like the other good teams, right? They put out their best players. Right? That's a thing. Right? You know what I mean? That's a thing.

Right? Whoever the best point guard is, we put him in. He starts and then the shooting guard starts and then the three to four. We put out the best unit. Right? Can we try that one just just a week? What is that? He knows I don't think he knows who the best players are what is that best five in Europe? What if he don't know who the best players are best five?

D'lo at the point Reeves at the two Rory at the three LeBron and ad so. So Rory's been hurt, but he should be coming back soon. So Rory, you don't got Rory. Who you going to put in play for him? Reddish or Prince? I'll take Prince, man. See, the nigga use his head. Don't shoot two-way or threes.

I mean, at least that's one good that just shoot the threes. But the fact that we have him, Cam, and Vando is like, oh. But him and LeBron shoot the same amount from three-point percentage. They ain't shooting at a high clip. So you got two motherfuckers that ain't going to really knock down shots for you on the kickoff from AD. So if we're going to scheme it, we're going to scheme it. We're like, oh, they got Prince out there. We know they don't want him shooting a lot of threes. Prince a week, you know We rotate in we rotate on that let him shoot that shit in the corner

But that's what I'm saying like so I just want to see our best five out there so we can see what we have Just see what we have. You don't want cam in at that three. No You won't Prince in front of cam If I have to pull in it, yeah Like the caveat if you have to put one in if I have to put one in yeah Mm-hmm, and then it'd be so he can sub in for prints But you think rue is the is the guy that makes the team a good good five. Yeah, he's better than These got like he's better than Yeah, he's better than these guys. He's better than the starters.

He's better than the... That's what I'm saying. I don't even know why that's a discussion. Why is he coming off the bench? You're trying to make your bench stronger while your starting five suffers. You cannot trick the basketball game. You can't fluff it.

You can't say, oh, we have the two starters here. We're going to have three bad players. Then we're going to have three good players come off the bench. Something's going to suffer. Your starting fives rank last. For your bench to rank three or four or five? Last? I'd rather have my starting five and the top five of my bench last 100%

It's a bitch cuz then you know where you can improve Yes, but right now we were gonna sit here and trade away some good pieces to bring we don't know what we really have yet And that's the that's the problem Well, hopefully we find out so shit. What do you do? Hold on me. Yes, it is. So what do you think about? playing big 2k style so so it's A D Christian was LeBron at the three. I like Christian woods. Wait wait wait a are at the to deal with I like that, too The one thing I do like about Christian what he goes he gonna. Yeah, he going to shoot it. And he's out. He's going to be on the perimeter.

He refounds. Yeah, which he opens up the floor for AD post up in LeBron James. Drives. Those are the type of, like, if you're going to put someone in to be a feeler, I'd rather put something in that's going to keep the floor open. Yep. And that frees LeBron up as a guard position instead of being him at the forward. I mean, yeah, at the forward.

I'm mad at that. I mean, it, at the forward. I'm mad at that. I mean, it don't matter either. You don't think it matter? I do. You still do? The Lakers or the Clippers are not winning the championship. Mr. B. And I love the Lakers, but it's a wrap.

Mr. B, have faith for the city of L.A., the city you know and love. Because I don't fuck with A.D., so we do. We love A.D. We've been liking him ever since we won the in-season tournament, brother. We haven't said nothing bad on that man's name. We haven't said nothing bad on that man's name. In-season tournament.

In-season tournament. That's what you're doing here? Don't make that face. That's what he's doing here? We haven't said nothing bad since then. I'm just saying, since then, we ain't said nothing bad about my guy. When was the in-season tournament? Two weeks ago.

Two-time champion Anthony Davis. No, the beginning of December. Two-time champion. He been good for the last month, baby. AD is a two-time champion. He been good since the last month. He's better. He's better.

You hear Josiah trying to squeeze it. Yeah. He good, baby. So we got you the first two-time, bro. Okay? We rolling. Hey, man, baby. We gave you the first two times, bro. Okay. We rolling. Hey, man. Why Toronto crying, man?

Fire his potato chips. Hey, man. Why Toronto crying, man? About what? Because it was fucked up. What you mean? The way that shit turned out and teamed up. Just the discrepancy of the fouls, bro.

See, that's the fuck. What's Toronto crying about? Because of 23 fouls in the fourth quarter. Toronto, relax. They didn't see shit because they was doing shit. Scotty Barnes was out there trying to get them back in and they wouldn't get no calls.

The problem with the problem with I don't know why coaches like this still have jobs. I don't know. I don't know why the coach still has a job. Do we have that clip of the Raptors coach? You finish your thought no, but you talking good, we'll put

Okay That's that's outrageous. What happened tonight? This is completely BS This is shame shame for the refere, shame for the league to allow this. 23 free throws for them, and we get two free throws in the fourth quarter. Like, how to play the game? I understand respect for all-stars and all that, but we have star players on our team as well. How's possible that Scotty Barnes,

who is all-star caliber player in this league, he goes every single time to the rim with force and trying to get to the rim without flopping and not trying to get foul calls, he gets two free throws for the whole game. How's that possible? How are you going to explain that to me? If that's the case, just let us know so we don't show up for the game. Just give them a win. That was not fair tonight. And this is not happening first time for us. Scottie Barnes is going to be all-star. He's going to be the face of this league. And what's happening over here during the whole season, I've been holding you back.

It's a complete crap. I thought the game was well-officiated, personally. Your starting lineup and your lineup is crap. Your five-man is 6'8". Your four-man is 6'8". What do you think happens when you're playing against 6'11 and 6'10 that drives the ball? One, you're going to foul them. Same shit that happened to Steve Kerr. When you're playing against these big-ass players,

right, you can't block their shots, right? You're going to have to foul them and try to keep them out of the lane. They can block you because your fucking four inch is too small. That's the reality of it. They shot 23 free

throws because at the end of the game, you're fucking fouling. Five intentional fouls is good. Five intentional fouls, that's ten free throws. Flavor foul. That's two more free throws, right? And then Anthony Davis is going to the basket. That means Scottie Barnes is guarding him. He's undersized.

He's going to foul. Where is reality at? LeBron didn't go in there and have 10 free throws. He drives all the time too. Right? I know Vando didn't have no fucking free throws. So no one else on that sorry ass team had free throws. So what

happened is Anthony Davis took advantage of your small ball lineup and that's your problem. When you face Greek, you might as well not show the fuck up. When you face Boston, don't show up. When you have to face Embiid, don't show up. When you have to face Jokic, don't show up.

Don't show up against any team that got five men and four men that are big because you're gonna get in foul trouble because you play a fucking small forward as a center. Patty's Young started at center last night, six foot eight. Six foot... Yeah, I mean, really, if you think about what you said in the beginning, the fouls was 11 to 2. Really, if you counterbalance the tensional fouls, which is 10, plus the technical, 12.

So it was really 11 fouls to 2. Very well-officiated game, just from my standpoint. No, but see, 11 fouls. But what I'm saying is, what happens when the team is too big, right? What do you start doing? Shooting jumpers. You shoot more jumpers when you can't get into the lane. They're not gonna foul as much.

Just like Golden State couldn't get a foul on Denver. Right? Right, Scottie Barnes can drive all day. He's at a disadvantage because you got seven footers down there blocking shots. That's like me going in the lane mad that I can't get Shaq and foul trouble I sound stupid and then Shaq's down here getting fouls cuz I gotta foul them

I'm at a disadvantage. What is Scottie Barnes gonna do? Yeah, he's a great defensive player On other small forwards just like him or if he has the advantage on. Thaddeus Young, who does he have advantage over? So let me ask you. See, Ockham's at the four and five. That's small forward. What happens when someone drives? Who's blocking the shot? No one's down there, man.

But the problem we're having in the league with the officiating is, you know, LeBron comes out and he says what he says about the Indiana game, right? With the foul against Boston. Now, if LeBron says something after the game about this call, he can't because it's in favor of the team he's playing against. He said it was a well-officiated game. Well-officiated games, right? Just like we say, if I'm on the other end of it, I'm not going to say it's bad officiating. But if it is, at any point, it would have helped Toronto be like,

see, LeBron believes that it was some bullshit out there. But then again, it's like, if you're not going to adjust, if you're not going to adjust as a coach, you see Scottie Barnes is going to be the one attacking, attacking, attacking every game against whoever. And it's not working because if you can say the Lakers play without fouling in the fourth quarter, which AD does a lot, he knows how to play without fouling because the fourth quarter, which AD does a lot. He knows how to play without fouling because he can block your shot. So what we've seen on that last drive with Scottie, where they expected that to be a foul, which it was a bump, but it's not a foul. That's a tough move. You got to finish at the top now. Like you said, you're too little.

That's AD. So you can't really say as to officiating more than it is your style of coaching that spread the floor So he can drive in a B from the key instead of driving into a B That's sitting there waiting on you. I feel I feel like the NBA recovered from that Celtics game with that performance last night from the When you do that you actually give these people validation that what they're saying is accurate. If there's only 11 real fouls and the same one man is shooting the free throws, like, this is not like Reeves got 20 free throws. Right, right, right, the whole team. Van, I guarantee you, he didn't get more than two free throws, right?

The guys who do not shoot. So that means Anthony Davis. Now we can just assume, oh, shit, what did Anthony Davis do? Mouse in the house. Mouse in the house. Mouse in the house. We know you don't have anybody to guard him, right? There's nobody on your team that can guard him because your starting center is 6'8".

Your power forward is 6'8". Your center and power forward are three men in the NBA. What do you think is going to happen when Greek come down there? How many Fritos you think he's going to take? Jokic. Who's guarding Jokic? How many Fritos is fucking Jokic going to have?

Embiid. Right, Embiid. They're going to milk you. You can't do nothing about it. But then he's going to complain, oh, we can't get to the free throw line. Who do y'all got besides Scotty Barnes? That does drive. Right. The face of the league.

The face of the league. Speaking of shooting, we have the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy taking place this Saturday, January 20th at the district. Next Saturday, January 20th, at the district. Next Saturday, January 20th, at the district.

I'm just making sure y'all are paying attention. Just playing the show. It's a little soon. Next Saturday, January 20th, at the district in Chatsworth, California, our qualifiers competing against our celebrity influencers and the Gills Arena crew in a winner-take-all battle for $100,000 of Underdog Fantasy's money. All pennies before we talk about here's a quick recap of the qualifier from december at stake is pride in a hundred thousand hundred thousand dollars of underdog fantasy's money so all the competitors come in january 20th i'm not scared of you. You know, I'm going for that 100K.

I'm here to win it. Money ball, get hot. Can't hear the soup for 100 grand. Shit, dog, you ready to go. This is 100,000, man. Bam. See that motivation, that look of fire in their eyes. You get the chance to pack up Gil.

They're gonna have to level up. The trash talking is gonna happen after I get that 100,000. Here we gonna have to level up. The trash talking is gonna happen after I get that $100,000. Here we go! We got one! It's gonna be tough Gil. There ain't gonna be no fake one. You're gonna have to kill me, bruh. You ain't gonna get this over me. I promise you that. AZ! Uh, good luck.

Good luck. Good fucking luck. Thank you, Gilbert. No problem. With the tags. Underdog will also be doing special pick-ems during the shootout where you can go higher or lower on all the contestants, including our Gills Arena crew. One of those contestants is basketball content creator Jester. Let's take a look at his form and how he stacks up against the competition.

Fuck it! Bang! Back to back! Let's take a look at his form and how he stacks up against the competition. Yes sir! Oh yeah! That's what I'm talking about. Stop it! He's really guarding you. Like hard. What? Shout out Jester and the Bucket Squad. He was going up against Defensive Player of the Year, Jaron Jackson Jr. So that may explain the disparity in his

Bucky getting ability. But another basketball content creator taking part in the shootout is Jenna Bandy. So let's take a look at her shooting form. Okay, that's a good start. That's a good start. I'm back. That's a nice form. Watch the form, Rashad. That's the basketball shooting form. Not gonna lie.

He ain't looking at the form. Let's go! Let's go! Not gonna lie, he ain't looking at the phone. Ah! This is a game. Better start the game like that. Let's go,. Let's go! . . Golly!

. The win! Oh! Oh, Bomi! The win! . Let's go, it's over. It's over!

I do this! . Let's go, it's over. It's over! I do this. Are Jess or Jenna Bandy a threat in the shootout? That girl look like a threat. No, she can shoot the shit out the ball. Y'all nervous? I'm not losing no girl. She already done whooped her ass.

Already done. In basketball? In shooting. Okay, just making sure, Gil. We had to do it. Making sure. Yeah, you got it correct. You got it.

Tell them now. You got this a few times. You got to watch it. You got to preference. She challenged me. I did a 49 out of 50 to her 47. Okay. So you won.

I don't lose to no girls. Women get women. You was shooting that thing. No, no. She can shoot the shit out of balls. 47 out of 50. It's crazy. So be ready next Saturday.

Gills Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy at the District in Chatsworth, California. 1 p.m. Pacific. We will be streaming live on YouTube for everybody who can't make it out there. If you're in the area, hold on. It's going to be a good time. Hey. McKiss Downfall just entered. He's going to be focused.

He's going to be focused on the money. They say work is your kryptonite. Oh, the work. Oh, shit. Not if I've already been down that road let's go to mostly fans right now mostly fans it is and man me mostly fans presented by underdog fantasy download that views promo code gill they will match your first deposit up to $100 no I didn't win by one I only only missed one. Just for you. They said I only won by one.

No, I only missed one, goddammit. So our first question from underdog fantasy user k.wsa said, start bench cut, Jalen Brunson, De'Aaron Fox, or SGA? Start bench cut, Jalen Brunson. Heart Shade, Bench Fox. And Brunson can go. Yep. I'm rolling.

I got shade, Fox, Brunson can go. Same thing. You shook your head. No. What'd you say? I thought you said Fox. I thought you said Fox go.

Nah, I don't know. Nah, he said Brunson. Okay. I didn't hear that part. So we all agree. Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time in the history of Gills Arena, we have a full agreement on this show. We did it. We're getting better.

I was still thinking of the work. I was like, what the fuck? Okay, yeah, my bad. I'll be a space cadet over here sometimes, you know what I'm saying? I stuck on the workbook. Make sure you get the workshop calendar and a workshop outlet near you. Question number two is from underdog user Braylon OTE. Who's more dangerous, Prime Harden or Prime Wade?

Wade. I ain't got to guard him. That's your guard. That's your matchup. I always say Harden. Why are you putting Prime Harden over Prime Wade? His ability to shoot the ball, make shots at the distances that he can shoot it. And he can, like, Prime Harden had super crazy bounce. So it wasn't none

of that floater shit like he'd been doing later. Like, he was going in there and smashing that shit. So James at that... And you can't take nothing away from D-Wade because that was

one of my favorite players. Like, I love D-Wade, but his jump shot wasn't like Harden's. Yeah, I said, I didn't play against Harden, but I know D-Wade fucked me up.

Oh, he was fucking me up too. I ain't lying. He was fucking me up too. D-Wade was a tough bar. He had me in that bitch line spin, cycle. Nigga, what? The snatch back

at the free throw line? The snatch back, spin, cycle, dunk. Yeah, yeah. He was one of my favorites, man. But James Harden with that three ball and that step back, man,

that's different. You cheating, bro. That's a travel, man. Well, there came nothing you could do with that three ball and that step back, man, that's different. You cheating, bro. That's a travel, man. Well. There ain't nothing you can do with that shit. It's like, what the fuck? Who would be easier to guard? Partly Harden would be easier because it's only this, right?

You ain't got to worry about nothing else. You know, with D-Wade, his isos, his back down, his pick and roll. Off the pick and roll. Split in the pick and roll. Yeah, it's a, you're going to be, yeah, it's a you gonna be working. Yeah Any plan defense any plan defense and he don't want to fucking lose like he gritty Mr. B out of here. You said prime hardener prime weight prime weight, okay The way if you're watching this show, we know you're in the area

Feel free to pull up to Gil's Arena and present my $100 fantasy. If you want to participate in the first annual Gil's Arena shootout as well, we would love to have you Saturday, January 20th at the district. They just keep adding people. They're trying to add more people to help.

I just feel like it's all against me, bro, at this point. You started this shit, Gil. Do not play victim now. Do not play victim now. Do not play victim now. Gil, listen. You know you're not winning the 100 grand, right? You know you're not winning the 100 grand, right? Don't play victim now.

You're about to lose to a girl. I'm not losing to no girl. A girl? Speaking of women, we got a Mostly Fans question from an underdog user by the name of Jessica of Brooklyn. Hey, y'all. My Mostly Fans question from an underdog user by the name of Jessica of Brooklyn. Hey, y'all. My Mostly Fans question of the day is in regards to Kevin Durant, James Harden, and Kyrie Irving.

Given their current respective teams and health and all things like that, do you think either of them have another shot at that finals floor to see another championship? Also, can the NBA bring back the big trophy on the floor? Gil, can you make that happen? First of all, I think that's probably one of our best underdog, mostly fans' questions. With the mic, audio was clear, not shaky, proper ceiling height, nothing going on in the background, no children being neglected.

I'm just saying. Cross the board. So shout out to Jessica Brooklyn. Do you see Harden, Kyrie, or KD making the finals? So she didn't really give us a timetable, but let's say just this season to give it some proximity. The closest one is going to be Harden or Kevin Durant. The bad part is they're all on the same coast.

Right? So it's... And we got Joker, Linger. They biting each other. I'm going to give it to the guy that ain't been there yet. James. James has been to the finals? Yeah. Well, I mean, like, without KD.

I don't think... I don't think none of them will ever see the finals again. Damn. Ever? Forever, ever? Yeah, it's over. Really? I mean, even though they, I mean.

I don't think neither one. I don't see Dallas. I definitely don't. That's what I'm saying. I don't see Dallas. They got so many, they're so far removed in pieces. You know, Suns, they have a big three, and then Clippers got four.

It's the most talent that's ever been on one team. Besides probably that Lakers squad back in the day. The Clippers are more prepared than all the other two. Because the coaching, even the coaching. Clippers are going to have to get in their own arena to get to the finals. Really?

They can't do it in Staples? No, they can't. No. I mean, listen. You can't share with the Lakers if they're going to win. That's just bad. I don't want to put any bad karma on Denver, but if Denver didn't make it, who's coming out of the West? If Denver's not there?

The Clippers. The Clippers? When, last year? No, this year. The Clippers. Right now. Let's say Denver can't make it. I'm still not going to just throw out Phoenix. The Clippers? When, last year? No, this year. The Clippers. Right now. Let's say Denver can't make it.

With the momentum right now. I'm still not going to just throw out Phoenix. Right, so, okay, so one of those two. One of those two, for sure. So one of those two then. Okay. Minnesota? I'm just saying, man.

I like Minnesota right now, man. I'm just saying, man. I do. I'm just saying, I don't think the league really cares if neither three of them get to the finals. No, but it got to make sense for the league, bro. It can't just be Minnesota. That's a small market. Huh?

That's a small market. So they just did with Denver. Minnesota. We need a big market team in there now. No, Minnesota versus Milwaukee. Stop playing. Minnesota, Milwaukee? Minnesota, Milwaukee.

I don't care. It don't matter. So what? Denver and Miami was nasty. Clippers, Ballmer. We Milwaukee. I don't care. It don't matter. So what? Denver and Miami was nasty. Clippers, Balmer. We pay you. We pay good. There's no travel.

Right there. 45 minutes. Minnesota, Milwaukee. I was just trying to get back on that flow next to... Trying to go on that flow. It would be nice, you know, do have the ticket plugs. I don't know. I don't got no pool in the NBA,

but I can put a trophy right here if you need one. That was her second question. Hey, you can't. Oh, but I can put a trophy right here if you need one. That was her second question. Hey, you can't. Hey, I can put one right here. A big one, right? Why would the NBA bring back the big trophy on the floor at the finals? We did enjoy those moments. Yeah, that was hard. Rashad, you got some plugs in the league office.

I don't got shit in the league office. Send the work up there. The only one who got NBA ties is the man over there. Yeah, he the only one. Barely. Barely. Too far. I'm a roof. Send the work up there to do some recon. Well, another great day here on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

We hope y'all enjoyed the show. Hey, it worked, it worked, bro. We battle sometimes. They get into arguments. You see my face, I'm just laughing because I know how much they like each other and support each other Yeah, the cameras are rolling. Shout out to my sister. You can't get my role. I got I got a shower I'm gonna they tried it. They try to let a he said he get beat you. He don't even know Who you is to a what? I mean back then my sister. I'm no back then I ought to beat y'all both my sister No, not now. Oh, no, she's still who mmm. Yeah, he's a real little right now

You got you got anything? You know I'm saying Rashaun Johnson him saying but we will smash now we're sure Reggie Reggie and Cheryl. What's up? Oh, well y'all were y'all having big battles back then No, I was just teaching her the ropes teaching the rope that's And when you talking see my height though, she's 63 Who's my little twin? That's crazy. I mean the fact that both y'all was on the cover means that's

They were out here buster for we both got the key to the city. We both McDonald's all-americans Sorry, a player of the year. So I'm a player the year or time. They say they slip no more time high school state champion James They don't know me her she was I was one time. I'm in the history. I'm in the history of basketball hot take Hot take I take don't start again. I, oh, hot take! Hot take! What's a hot take? Don't start again. Hot take! What's a hot take? Is the sister the best

McCants in the family? Oh. I don't know! Because Cheryl better than Reggie, huh? Cheryl better than Reggie? No, no, I mean, we know. We know what that means, but we get talking about resume. By the way, she was coached.

The resume, I mean, whoo! She got drafted in the hole nine. She got drafted 13th through the links. Hey, Cheryl Miller, girl. I got 14th. Ooh. It was luxurious. Man, I know pops and moms is proud.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We was, we, we a little athletic family, you know what I'm saying? A little athletic. We just don't, we just don't, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're a little athletic family. You know what I'm saying? A little athletic. We just don't take kind authority. Okay. We are here.

We are here. We are here. How many brothers and sisters are there? It's me. I got two younger sisters. No, I mean, how many brothers and sisters NBA and WNBA? Candace Parker, Anthony Parker, me, and my sister Cheryl didn't play in the WNBA. Yeah.

So y'all are the highest draftees. No, for sure. We was the first McDonald's All-Americans, women and men. That's tough. We'll see if... See, this is shit. You don't mean to be talking about it, man. Yeah.

I'm just saying. That's what you got to bring to the table when you're talking shit. I wait for the debate so I can say no business. We'll see if Noah and his sister can get there. Shout out to Noah and the Caniga family. Caniga.

But this has been another episode of Guild Arena presented by Underdark Fantasy. We will see y'all on Thursday. Appreciate you

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