Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Kyrie COOKING The Wolves In Game 1
Episode Date: May 23, 2024Gil's Arena Reacts To Kyrie Irving COOKING The Minnesota Timberwolves In Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down Kyrie and Luka Doncic carrying the ...Dallas Mavericks over the Wolves and discuss how this win impacts the series & an already gassed Timberwolves team. They also react to the announcement of the 2024 All-NBA Teams, giving their thoughts on who deserves their place, who got snubbed and compare the official list to the Gil's Arena Predictions made before the beginning of the NBA Playoffs. Finally, they react to the rumors of the billion dollar NBA TV rights deal that would increase a supermax contract to nearly $100 million per season and break down LeBron James' recent comments around JJ Redick as the Los Angeles Lakers next head coach and the relentless stream of hate on Caitlin Clark. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Today's Crew - Rashad McCants & Kenyon Martin Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash AND A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! - https://discord.gg/underdog APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:55 All NBA Team Reaction 0:05:56 Who Can Crack All-NBA 1st Team Next Season? 0:17:49 All NBA Snubs 0:23:58 Luka's Hall Of Fame Resume 0:27:48 Playing Through Injury For All-NBA Deals 0:38:06 The MINDBLOWING New Supermax Deals 0:42:15 Kyrie Answers Ant-Man's Challenge 0:49:23 Were The Wolves Gassed In Game 1? 1:08:19 Debating Who Wins The Series 1:29:13 Game Plan To Slow Down Kyrie & Luka 1:31:40 JJ Redick Is Pat Riley 2.0 1:55:42 LeBron Defends Caitlin Clark 2:11:27 Gil's Arena In The Building For Sparks v Fever 2:24:10 MostlyFans 2:25:15 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So I believe we have the picks for tonight.
These are the most popular.
Tyrese Halliburton, higher 19.5 points.
Siakam, higher 3.5 assists. Siakam, higher, 3.5 assists.
Obi Toppin, higher, 9 points.
Kenny, I believe you picked him game one.
Yeah, that shit was 7.5.
He did that in the first quarter.
And Drew Holiday, coming off his season high 28, higher, 14.5 points.
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I like two of those.
I like two of those.
Okay.
Which ones do you like?
I think I'm going to keep rocking with the Obie.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, now you know, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
And then Drew, Drew Holiday.
For sure.
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On the first team, MVP Nikola Jokic and runner-up Shea Gildas-Alexander
were unanimous picks, receiving all 99 first place votes.
They were joined by Luka, Giannis, Tatum, a very international heavy squad, although
SGA did play in America coming up.
So Jalen Breslin and Anthony Edwards secured the two top spots on the second team, with
both making their first ever All-NBA teams and were joined by KD, Kawhi,
and AD.
And the third team featured LeBron, Steph, Sabonis, Tyrese Halliburton, and D-Book.
So Bron extended his record making his 20th All-NBA team and is the youngest and oldest
player in NBA history to make an All-NBA team.
So that's how it broke down.
This is the final list according to the Square Media, 99 voters.
Shortly after the regular season ended, though,
our Gills Arena crew gave their all-NBA picks.
So let's see how close that you guys got to the actual list.
Good.
I don't see it.
It's coming.
So we're going to...
Damn.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
We've got to build up the anticipation.
So let's start with Rashad's All-NBA picks.
So, Rashad, you got four right on the first team,
three on the second team,
three on the third team
for a total of 10 out of 15 correct.
Not rolling.
The voters betrayed you.
No, no, no.
I fucked up with the Luka ant,
but I like ant.
I was just playing ant because I picked Ant,
but I knew Luka was going to make it.
This nigga's crazy.
Yo.
Yo.
Something serious
wrong with you, man.
You know that?
Antonovich.
Huh?
Hey, you know something
wrong with you, right?
With what?
You do know this man
like was like third MVP
voting and led the league
in sport, right?
Nah, like I said,
I picked Ant
because I like Ant.
It was just bias.
I understand,
but you just damn, damn going with the facts. Yeah, right? No, like I said, I picked Ant because I like Ant. It was just biased. I understand, but you just damn going with the facts.
Yeah, yeah.
I picked him because I'm biased.
You don't mind?
You just said, fuck it.
Yeah.
It's just like you said, you like, you know, you like Ray over Luka.
No, I like it, but I'm not going to put him on second team
because I like him more.
Okay, so, you know, I was hoping.
Because I like him more. I'm going to be logical with his time.
I was hoping, you know.
He was who?
I don't think I put Giannis on mine.
You what?
Damn, Gil.
I'm first-hand.
Y'all boys crazy.
I was told.
It's a bonus, too.
Yeah.
Y'all crazy.
I'm sure.
Okay.
So, now let's move on to Kenyon's picks.
And this is when? When was this made, though? I believe back in April. Okay, so now let's move on to Kenyon's picks.
And this is when, when was this made though?
I believe back in April.
Day of the Lobster.
Oh, yeah.
So Ken, you got four right on the first team, sacrificing a perfect score out of respect of Embiid, who was ineligible.
Yeah.
But nonetheless, you had to show your love.
And two on the third, two on the second team And two on the third team For a total of
Eight out of fifteen
But again I'll
Preface that
It'd be with NL
But nonetheless
Who did you put there though
You did the same thing
I did
You did the same thing
I did
Just fuck the facts
Just fuck the facts
No but man
Like I said
Damn the 65 games
You went
With the nigga
You said
Cause you like him more
Yeah man
No I didn't go I said Cause damn damn the 65 games the man that was 35 when he played
Shit like who would you to put on the first team?
Said again, who would you have put?
Who don't I have up there you had in beats or if you didn't have Embiid, who did you have put? Tatum or Ant?
Tatum.
Okay.
And finally, Mr. Arenas, here are your All-NBA picks.
So you also put Ant on the first team, but you got four right on the first team,
four on the second team, and three on the third team for a total of 11 out of 15.
It was the best score amongst the Gills Arena crew.
Is that Giannis, man?
Your Giannis disrespect?
I penalized him.
You did?
I penalized, I mean, you know, when he went 17 and 19 at the end, I'm like, how can you be all NBA first team?
Well, his, but you, see, see, see. I know, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. how can you be all NBA first team? But you see. I know.
That's what I said.
That's what I said.
I penalized him.
For Doc.
For Doc.
Yeah.
And then Ant-Man, it was like, how are you not going to put Ant-Man when his team was,
I think they won, what, 57 games?
Yeah.
57 games.
Tie for the top in the West.
Yeah. The game in the West. Yeah.
Well, the game is the game.
Ben Chilwell and Brown.
Yeah, Paolo didn't make it.
Jalen Brown.
Wait, who the fuck did they have?
Hmm?
Who did they put?
No, the actual list.
Halliburton.
Sabonis.
Yeah, Halliburton and Sabonis.
Halliburton and Curry.
Curry?
Yeah.
The LeBron Curry booker.
See, the third team was a popularity.
I was going to say Curry.
Because you can't leave them out.
It's a popularity thing.
What?
That just cost Tyrese and Max a whole lot of money.
What?
Ah, yeah.
Remember I said, yes.
I'd be damned if you put it.
Yeah.
You remember I said that. Like, God damn, I'd be damned if you put it. Yeah, you can say it a minute.
You remember I said that, like, God damn, I'd be damned if I get double max on him.
You were saying that about Halliburton, too.
Halliburton, too.
So what are you most surprised about with these All-NBA teams?
Can we put the official All-NBA teams back up just for the sake of reference?
So what are you most surprised about with these 15 gentlemen who were selected to Adam Silver's
All-NBA?
Kawhi.
You think he should have higher or lower?
I just think he didn't do enough.
He didn't play a lot.
Well, he played a lot.
Yeah, 68 games.
He played a lot for Kawhi.
But you know what I'm saying?
If anything lower, I don't care.
It wasn't the Kawhi that you compared to the like Benchero. I
Think he got snow
But do you feel like Paolo should have made it over Kawhi? Yeah
If anybody and I just point out Clippers were fourth in the West
Donovan Mitchell
Cuz he had enough he had some Kawhi. Yeah, because I put him there for a reason.
He had a good year.
Hold on.
I'll pull him up for you.
He said 68 games.
Played 68 games.
Average 24.6 rebounds, four assists.
Shot 53% from the field, 42% from three, 89% from the free throw line.
That's a good year.
That's a good year.
He got that re-up.
That's a good year.
Ventero, damn near.
Ventero, 23? Yeah. And Paolo thisup. That's just like Benchero. Damn near. Yeah. Benchero 23. Yeah
And Paolo this season. Shoot, what Tyrese Max average?
You said it. If I was 76ers, I was not having it. They were making phone calls like yeah, he ain't ready
So Tyrese average. Is that a namesake?
What? Second team for Kawhi?
Because of the history and longevity, you know, when you got years of being in there.
You have a solid year, and he has a solid year.
Just like Bron.
Bron has a solid enough year that you can't even say he not.
And people would have put Bron on the second team and Kawhi on the third.
It's like I can't complain because on either one.
I mean, who made it?
No, actually, LeBron belongs on the second team. Yeah. Over Kawhi? Over Kawhi. Like it's like I can't complain cuz on either one. I mean who made it I will actually
Blowns on the second team. Yeah over over quiet. Why why think what Lakers were three, you know Oh, I'm browns doing against the Clippers. So this has nothing to do with teams. He says though, right?
Well, I mean, it should but if you got Jalen Brown not making the list, but I'm
Sambal, I mean just the business big for all this supposed to be higher But you're talking about record Jalen Brown. Who is saying, but the Clippers used to be in this, Big Four, all this. Supposed to be higher.
But you're talking about a record Jalen Brown, who is he going to be in front of on the first
team?
I'm not saying first team, I'm just saying not even making it.
Oh, Jalen Brown, I'm thinking Jalen Brown.
Because you had Jalen Brown on the third team.
So it would have been Booker off.
I would have been cool with that.
I would have been cool with that too.
No, Booker's stats is still, and his team is, I mean, they was five?
That's the same with Kawhi. Kawhi's team was what? Jalen Brown's team was still. And his team is, I mean, they was five? That's the same with Kawhi.
Kawhi's team was what?
Jada Brown's team was one.
I know.
Jada Brown's team was one.
Devin Booker averaged 27, 7, 5, and 68 games a season.
Was close to 49% from the field, 36% from the field.
They had this big show.
They had been either Curry.
I mean, I knew Sabonis because it was like,
how do you keep the guy off that had that who led the league in triple-doubles?
So I was like, man.
What are Steph's numbers?
So to your point, Sabonis had 26 triple-doubles this season.
What was Steph's?
Steph was 26 points, five assists, five rebounds,
45% from the field, 41% from the field.
I know that's what I said.
Everybody was watching.
That third team, we was like, ah, it could have been anybody.
Yeah.
And obviously we get into the debate about American Hoopers
versus international Hoopers.
You have four international players, if you want to include SGA,
who's from Canada but played.
There's always four.
Four out of five.
There's four.
Every year is the same four.
Why does Halliburton make it?
Because he led the league in assists.
He led the league in assists.
It was up until the play-in tournament that he was playing very, very well.
We was like, oh, shit.
Then after that, it was a huge drop-off.
Yeah, but he still averaged.
He led the league in assists.
It was a double-double still.
It's weird because it's like his double-double is we like it, and then Trey Young's double-double we frowned upon.
Yeah, bro.
It's weird, you know what I mean?
Never got a chance to do it.
They don't like Trey for that.
But Talley's assist to turnover ratio was absurd this year.
No, no. For real.
So he averaged, what, 11 assists,
two turnovers.
That's crazy.
Which is crazy.
That's insane.
Had a few games.
Because I, because, you know.
Zero turnover games,
big assists.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
I mean, I'm not mad at him.
That's, that's.
Best offense in the league
this season.
Halliburton did have
44 double-doubles,
points and assists.
But, so four out of the, four out of the five on the first team, international players. Three. Oh, yeah. in the league this season. Halliburton did have 44 double-doubles. Points in a sense.
So four out of the five on the first team,
international players.
Three, oh yeah.
Nobody else on the list
technically.
Obviously Sabonis,
Lithuanian, American,
but was born in Portland,
so we keeping him.
They can have him.
Just for the sake of debate,
but...
They can have him.
Big deal?
Is that a big deal?
Not a big deal?
Five out of the 15?
You guys talk about...
It's the same four.
It's the same four.
All-Star, name the same, it's the same four.
Very top-heavy, though.
It's the same four.
No matter how you look at it, it's the same four.
All-Star, it's the same four.
No matter how you switch it up, it's the same four,
and the only newbie that's going to be there will be Wimby.
Right?
Another big, you know what I mean?
And then just based on regular season, postseason success,
do we feel like this might be the last time that Ant-Man misses the first team for a while?
Don't know.
It's heavy.
It's heavy.
I think it's a toss-up between the first team, second team.
Because you've got Lucas, Shea Because you got Lucas, Shea.
Yeah.
Lucas, Shea.
So we can guarantee damn near Lucas, Shea, Jokic.
Yeah.
That's damn near guaranteed three moving forward.
Giannis too.
Giannis can bounce back and forth.
Giannis is giving you 30 and 12, 13 every year. His numbers can go down.
Think about MB. MB don't get hurt. Yeah. With healthy 12, 13 every year. His numbers can go down. And B, think about him.
He don't get hurt.
With healthy him, he don't.
And we're talking about positionless.
He plays 65 games.
He's first.
Yeah, that's what I said.
So it's like, so Giannis 30, 12, seven assists,
shot 61% from the field.
I mean, if everybody's healthy, you're talking about.
The same five.
It could be the same five for a while.
Nah, I don't think he's first team either.
Because he will have the record.
He has to share responsibility, so his stats wouldn't match.
That's fucked up hard.
And he's not crazy.
Facts, bro.
I feel the same way.
I used to feel that way, but now I see the talent rising.
These boys good.
These boys are good.
And Jason got to raise his level of play.
That's what you guys talked about, though.
Does he start to need to sacrifice his own individual stats?
Like we drop a couple more games, but I'm putting up 30.
That's the problem. We're still number one.
That's the problem.
When you start really getting to talking and you start saying, hey, man,
Lucas' team is going to be 4-5 every year.
He averages 35.
He's guaranteed first team.
I'm sacrificing a winning,
and I'm averaging 27,
and I'm going to be second team?
The fuck do I need these wins for then?
And it kind of makes you think back selfish.
Let me ask you this.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It doesn't.
Let me ask you this.
What's the difference in 27 and 34, 35?
The way you get it? The way you get it.
A lot of points.
But what's the difference?
What does Luka do more than Jason Tatum?
Tougher shots.
Rebound, I mean, assists and free throws.
That's true.
He gets to the free throw line.
Jason Tatum don't get to the line.
So that's every game.
Well, Luka's what, top three, four free throws attempted every season?
That's what really changes you from efficiency.
No, free throws.
The efficiency of getting to the line and adding another element of scoring.
And Luka's not a great free throw shooter.
Facts.
But he's still getting it like and so that's
Yeah, look it was top four free throw attempt to season has 608. That's what that's what I say them have 497. That's the
That's what helps Trey young to read it over well guess who we leaving out
John Maria
We're for Demetrius. We're forgetting about Ja Morant.
You're talking about Ja, you're talking about Wimby.
I'm just saying, like, those two.
The only person that can sneak into the first, like, that five right there, goddammit, they going into the season as a favorite every year.
Right now, the only people who can sneak in there is Wimby.
Ja Morant.
You don't think Ja can?
Ja is going to be with Tatum.
Ja is going to be with Tatum and Ant-Man.
Ja is going to be Ja, Ant-Man, Tatum in that second.
And if Zion keep creeping up the way he was creeping up at the end,
he got to be in the conversation.
This is our team.
You know what I'm saying?
Depending on how good the Pelicans are, you know what I'm saying,
he could creep into second team.
And that first team is nasty.
You're going to need a historic year to get on that list.
Or you're going to need that 65 game.
Please keep us together.
Please keep us together.
Some Tanya Harding going on.
64, 64-four.
So can we pull up that list one more time?
Please follow up.
Has there ever been a dominant five?
Like, without the record, has there ever been a dominant five you can have guaranteed on first team?
Because this is crazy.
I mean, I mean,
Cole,
yeah.
Who was the fifth
we were saying?
It's Luka,
Joker,
and B,
and who else?
Who was the fifth?
Not one of them two.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's them four.
Take them out
and put them in B.
So you can keep
SGA as a guarantee
every year?
Hell yeah.
Nah,
hell nah.
Because AD could have
went first team.
Fuck no.
Fuck no.
If they put up
a little bit more numbers.
If the Lakers would have did better, but that's the problem.
But even though, like, I know.
You know, AG's averaging.
See, the problem is SGA's averaging 30 guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
You're going to guarantee that.
But it's not first team.
It's not a first team 30.
It's my team needs a 30.
It's my team needs 30 for me.
But number one in the West, like...
If his team was third in the West, he's still his first team.
The man is averaging 30 or something.
Like, there's 35 or 5.
His number, that's what I said, his numbers didn't go up.
Even if Luka goes down to 33, 32, 31, he's still first team.
KD pushes to 30. We're keeping him down? He ain 32, 31, he's still first team. KD pushes to 30.
Is he keeping him down?
He ain't, but that's what I'm saying.
He's got to do more than just score.
Everybody who's on second team, I guarantee second team, they're older.
So they're not going to be pushing him younger.
So when you look at this list,
is there anyone here we don't think will make another All-NBA team?
All-NBA?
I mean, the only person who's on the
back end is Steph. Kawhi?
I think
Sabonis and Halliburton.
Nah, Sabonis
is a stat stuffer. I think he only
got it this time because that
spot was open for a debate. spot it was open for a debate
That spot was open for a debate and he got it just because they're they're talking about BAM should have deserved that spot
Hail right. It's and that's I said the same thing
I'm like will BAM got with all defensive and he was ranked, you know certain
First team all he did have is a double-double. I mean
finalists for a defensive.
So they're like, well, why he get this, and then he don't get this,
and then Sabonis didn't get none of this, and then he put it.
So it's like just the conversation around it for Sabonis, boom.
But then I look at Halliburton, I'm like, man,
you got other guys that play at a higher clip.
And even though the assist thing is the assist thing, but it's not a –
You could have played with that third team any way you wanted to.
Yeah, that third team.
You could have just pulled from a hat.
You could have put ten names.
If you would have put Jaden Brown in there, everybody would have been like, all right.
You could have put Bam in there.
You could have put Maxie in there.
Everybody would have been like, all right.
Dame, Trey Young.
Like, they all are mad right now.
They all like, man, what the fuck we got to do?
How he get it, and we've been waiting six, seven years to get here, and he just creeped in with a, what?
What did he average?
19 and 13.
19 and 11.
19 and 11.
19 and 11.
He creeped in with that?
That he creeped in?
Yeah, because, damn, I mean, I averaged 30 in.
Six and six.
I ain't even getting that. You was averaging 30 until you got docked.
It's nasty work out there.
So let's talk a little bit, snubs.
There's only 15 spots on the All-NBA team.
Naturally, some guys are not going to make the cut.
So Jalen Brown just missed making his second straight All-NBA team.
He was amongst that list.
He finished 16th.
He made it when he needed to make it.
Hey, he ain't tripping.
He like, shit, I mean, hey, last summer was great.
Once I got that bread,, he like, shit, I mean, hey, last summer was great. It is. It is.
Once I got that bread, it's like, I don't got to make one for a couple more years.
Man, I got three years, man.
Y'all good.
So other players not making the list that we talked about include Paul George, Maxie,
Gobert, Wimby, Zion, Paolo Banchero, Darren Fox, Bam, DeMar DeRozan.
Who was the biggest All-Star, All-NBAs-ing up this season?
Maxie.
For me, Maxie.
Tyrese Maxie, man.
Tyrese Maxie.
Like, the way he played, the way he held the fourth down when Embiid was out.
Making it to the playoffs.
Yeah.
Still with a struggling Embiid.
And it's costing him a whole lot of money.
What was his numbers compared to Steph?
You're free agents this year.
Yeah, what was his numbers compared to Steph?
They're the same, right?
So Maxie averaged 26 points, six assists, four rebounds,
played 70 games, 45% from the field.
And what was Steph's?
Steph was?
We got Doogie Howser.
26-5-5.
So they're the same.
45-41% from three, 92% from three.
One made the playoffs, one didn't.
It's popularity.
Like I said, it was a popularity thing for third team, I think.
We're just, yeah, obviously with the square media,
some of those guys that are amazing.
They're going to vote for LeBron.
They're going to vote for Steph.
They're going to vote for Book.
And the two wild cards, like Shai was saying, was Halliburton and Sabonis.
Right?
It's a popularity thing.
So, like I said, LeBron made his.
He said they didn't deserve it.
But you could have put LeBron on the second team.
You could have put LeBron on the third team.
You could have.
You could have.
So, I think it was a popularity contest when it came to the third team.
So LeBron, NBA record 20.
All NBA selections.
Kareem is the next closest with 15.
The longevity, consistency.
He got records that ain't gonna...
Will anybody come close to that?
No.
In our lifetime?
No. In our lifetime? No.
Damn.
No one's physically gifted enough.
When you're talking about somebody like Luka and Jokic, genetics go against them.
They're slow moving today.
When they get 35, what do you think they're going to look
like? So you're talking about a guy who
you know,
when he was younger, he
was at a 44-inch vertical.
Right now, he's slowing down.
He got a 40,
41, 40, right?
That's at that height.
That helps.
Kobe and Duncan
also have 15
All-NBA selections
in their current edition
of Kareem.
Yeah, that's why I said
when you look at Duncan,
when he got older,
it looked like he was,
like when Dirk was getting older,
it looked like it.
Like, this is genetics.
Like, you gotta be somebody
who genetically
can last six, seven years
when everybody else
would be falling down.
Who's the pappy
Who's the pappy
You mentioned Luca just Just looking at it,
based on where he's at now,
Luka will probably have
the best chance to do it,
obviously, like you said,
if his body can sustain.
But by making All-NBA,
Luka's now eligible
for the largest contract
in NBA history in 2025.
He can sign a five-year,
$346 million Supermax.
So at just 25 years old,
Luka already has
five first-team
All-NBA selections.
So let's take a list that gentlemen, he has five first-team All-NBA selections. So let's take a list.
My Lord.
Gentlemen, he has more first-teams than more than Steph, AI, Westbrook, Chris Paul, T-Mac, D-Wade, KG, Jokic, and Dirk, to name a few.
And he's only 25.
So does Luka deserve more love for the success he's had so far in his career?
More. He's getting. I career More he's getting I mean
He keeps getting no more. So yeah, what else do we need? It's not like he's getting it's not like he's getting snubbed
I'm like, yeah, look at these numbers
Five he's in front of a whole
Generational at this point though, just from when he's accomplished at 25
But obviously math still in the postseason.
What would winning a ring do for Luka's career?
His trajectory is already what it is, right?
I mean, he's already on a fast track.
The things he's doing is unreal for his age, unreal for just basketball itself.
So winning a championship, not winning a championship. He's
He's pushed to where he is. Okay, and where is that?
Right now if he stopped right today, he's first ballot Hall flame with those sense
Which is crazy
You say top 15 top 20
ever You say top 15, top 20? Ever?
There's going to be some conversation.
I don't know.
I mean, longevity is a thing.
Yeah, for sure.
If we're talking about just talent, right, and, you know, TMAC is not top 75,
but if you say, all right, we're going on numbers.
If we're going on just whose ability, came free was a small for you You can't find five five small force. That's better than him with just straight natural talent
But you know his numbers is what can I might have been not not what he can do it magically, huh?
Don't my Tracy no
You know, so, you know, longevity, the numbers itself.
I was about to say, shit, I can name, I thought you said you can't name five Ben Lugos.
I was just, shit, I was about to say, what?
I was talking about just Mac himself, you know, to keep him out of the top seven.
I was talking about Tracy.
Yeah.
You were about to say, I was about to say Tracy first.
But just your longevity helps, right?
That's the point of greatness.
Greatness is not a year, two years, five years thing.
It's you have to be able to sustain it.
It's like a number one hit.
You can have a number one hit and do all that,
and then the next year you nobody.
Right?
Two years, three years is like peaks and valleys is what a career is.
And, you know, the longer you can sustain being great is what helps you.
Yeah.
Well, it's just like saying, you know, joker got the back-to-back mvps and then you add a championship to that you say well damn what more do he what more do he need right and then luca
hasn't won an mvp but you know his career is going towards a trajectory to the point where if he does
add a championship to it you want to look now at
the future assets like okay can he get another one this is it's his trajectory that they're going to
be dominant where every time the season starts you're looking at luca to win another championship
or is it a paper champ type of situation where he got one because the situation was what it was
and uh that's what i looked at with joker it's like if Joker them don't come back and repeat,
that's a paper champ situation where you just happen to add up
to Chip's fail where you guys can win a championship.
Just like Giannis, Chip's fail the way they fail.
AD, Chip's fail the way they fail.
So if you can't bounce back and get a double up,
where it's a dominating situation where season in, season out, we know you're going to deliver and take us to the finals.
Similar to Jason Tatum.
Tatum got there consecutively, but he has to take it over the top.
So if he wins, it can put him and Luka in the same type of breath of conversation just simply because they won it.
But I think for Luka, if he can win multiple,
that's when we're looking at his legacy very differently.
It was like, okay, he's doing this since he was 20, 25,
he done did all this shit, and he won a championship,
and he won two of them.
Shit, now we're talking about real greatness.
Top ten type shit.
Yeah, multiple championships helps your argument. Yeah, for real.
I'm saying when you're the guy, to your point, yeah, you can win one, but I think
multiple people can't question you then.
Mm-hmm.
So, we'll see.
You got to get there first.
Luke making a name for it.
Now, he's doing what he's supposed to.
I'm saying it.
He held him up.
It might be one of those KD things
where by the time he turned 28,
KD had all these scoring titles, MVPs,
and mother done did everything.
And the only thing he couldn't check off
was a finals MVP and being a champ
and as a basketball player it's like well these are the things I need right here
if I can't get it here I gotta go get it yeah yeah got two of them though but does it feel like
yeah yeah yeah I see what you're saying did it catapult did it catapult it didn't
so that's not in public opinion and that opinion. Because of the way it was done.
Now we have this thing
where we can't say a ring
and finals MVP matters.
And now it comes with a
question mark. How did you get it?
Yeah, because if he don't get it in Dallas,
if him and Kyrie can't get it done
eventually, then what do you do?
Right? We got all the numbers all these accolades is
It gonna look yeah, it's the teams up and go wins it if he goes with your kids and wins it over there like now
Now we question it. I ain't a real one. So legacy is built on
Now how you do it?
Just wow. Yeah, but when let's get it straight though.
I don't get what winning it is.
Winning the NBA championship ain't easy, man.
It was, everybody had one.
So, trust me.
You can get there and you can win it,
and then to win multiple,
it helps your argument, but.
Yeah, that's why it was so important for Kobe
to win one without Shaq.
Right?
I'm sure he can do it.
Same thing probably with Shaq.
I got to win one without Kobe.
It's these
weird
things that comes with
you get
questioned no matter how you do it
because
the Mount Rushmore did it in a way that it doesn't exist anymore.
You can't pay people low-budget deals to build a dynasty.
Dynasties are built because someone signed bad contracts.
And that's how a dynasty is built right when you
talk about curry curry his foot was hurt a whole bunch of years where they got him for pennies on
a dollar so the the dude who became the best player in the world wasn't paid like the best
player in the world right jordan wasn't paid like the best player in the world when they built that
team when you talk about um magic magic when you talk, I mean, damn,
they tried to sign him over, what, 20 years?
20 years.
I think that was one of those 20 years, 20 million.
And then same thing with football, right?
They had the Chiefs, right?
Those are bad deals.
Mahomes with the 250. Yeah, so for you to build, someone has to be tricked into some little money.
So it's hard to do that now.
It's hard to handicap somebody.
The only thing that handicaps them is not making all NBA team.
You can try those.
Right now we have like John Morant where he's not getting
paid like the superstar he is um he's getting paid is the same as Maxie now right that is like
right you know so you know depending on you know the luck of the draw depending on who's going to
be the next legacy team yeah I look at the legacy as the Mount Worth from where she said there's only
Five players who've been able to do the back-to-backs
Maybe maybe six at Tim Duncan. Did they do back-to-back? Hmm. I saw you got magic
Back to back so can't include him so you got got Magic and Bird. They both did back to back, right?
Then you got Kobe, Jordan, back to back, and then LeBron.
Shaq.
Shaq, too.
So it's six.
Shaq, LeBron.
So that's why LeBron is so close to all of them.
KD.
Kyrie, yeah. Kyrie didn't do back to back.
No, no, no.
KD, Curry.
KD and Curry.
All right, so that's it.
What's that?
Bird doesn't have back to back.
No back to back for Bird? No, Magic interrupted that. Magic got back to back No back to back for Bird
Magic interrupted that
Isaiah Thomas
So you see the handful of guys
Who showed dominance by winning
Back to back titles
Cement themselves as saying that
We wasn't a paper champ we came back
And did it again
I think that's important for the legacy
And I think those guys who was on those teams that led those teams feel that way, too.
It's like, well, it ain't about the stats or the MVPs for that.
It's the fact that we came back and did it again.
We came back and was dominant again.
And we did it with the team that drafted us.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the times are very different.
Like, you think about when Kobe won his three championships, he was so damned on the rookie deal.
Damn.
So, you know what I mean?
And then his first deal was 79.
What, it was a 79 million?
Back then, that's $79 million max.
So, it's really, like, you got to be very smart.
It's like if OKC, if they win some championships,
they can end up becoming a dynasty because the money is so little with them.
When you do pay them, it don't affect your team.
So you mentioned OKC, so let's get into some other info in regards to these All-NBA teams.
SGA is eligible to sign a four-year, $294 million Supermax in the 2025 offseason.
He would get paid $81 million in the last year of that deal. So talked about Jay LeBron so made his first all the NBA so I know
Kenya no wait how much 81 million in the last year that that deal to 92 94 for
your 294 extension oh so he's not the 500 million dollar player but we will
get him him so him Tatum, so he's 26, right?
25 I believe about to be 26. You know him Tatum. So him Tatum 26 in July. Yeah, so him Tatum and
Luca
They're in that same age group. So you say he signed for to set to 92 now he can sign for 294 2025
What can Luca sign for $294 in 2025. And what can Luka sign for?
$346.
You see how big a difference that is?
At the same age?
It's a lot of bread.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
So, like, Luka and Tatum, I want to know what the fuck Tatum's going to get.
With Tatum, I can believe can, let me pull it up.
But Tatum can do...
No, he can go $40-something, I believe.
So 349, he can get the most.
Yeah, so he can get the most, yes, because he came in before Luka.
349, I think that's it.
He can make more than Jalen Brown, I know that.
Of course.
He came in before.
So Luka...
I think 315 is, or something like that.
Yeah, so Luka and Tatum, when they get out of this deal, they might be pushing that half a billy contract.
So we're going to talk about that in a second.
Brunson made his first All-NBA team, isn't eligible for a Supermax contract because he signed with the Knicks as a free agent.
But by making their first All-NBA team, both Ant and Halliburton earned an extra $41 million on their deals.
So we talked earlier this season how it appeared
that Halliburton was playing through a sore hamstring
to reach that 65 game threshold.
Will we continue to see guys playing through injury
to stay eligible for all NBA
teams? And do you think that it's good or bad
for the league with the 65 game minimum?
We've seen it.
We witnessed it. We witnessed
that players became selfish to their contract, which is how it's always been
when you have incentives in your deal, right, and you got these extra bonuses and you need
to do some certain things, right, rebounds, free throws, whatever, you're playing to your
contract, right?
So the fact that it's 65 and there's an extra $40 to $80 million on the line,
of course.
We're talking about an extra $41 million, right?
If I got to limp the fuck out there, motherfucker,
I'm limping across that finish line.
Like, it's $41 million.
This ain't no bonus of $2 million.
It's an extra $41 million, 80-something.
I am good, good, good, good.
Yeah, be at home.
I need a new knee just so I can get it.
And we've seen it.
We've seen Donovan Mitchell go down trying to get back up.
We've seen what happened to Embiid, right?
So, yes, right?
Some people are going to make it.
There's going to be more that hurt themselves trying to get know get it we seem quite 41 million same deal with Kawhi Kawhi got got it he
tried everything to get past it and we didn't see him in the playoffs because of
it you're getting paid that much money but your ass out there if you want that
money you know that's the whole a work for it work for it all right that's what
the owners put that shit in there.
There's so many guys when the deal extension thing started to come up,
when Alan Crabb and Alec Burke and all them got that big money
because they had money sitting that they had to give away to bad contracts.
So they was giving away that money because they didn't want to give away bigger contracts
when the actual extension came up. contracts when the extension came up.
And once the extension came up, you had to pay guys way more.
So they're trying to get rid of the bag early.
Now it's, we want you to earn this shit.
You're going to earn it now.
So they put the 65 in there to make sure you earn it.
So now everybody got to go out there and play.
So you talk about just how outrageous these contracts are getting.
So according to reports, NBA set to finalize its next TV rights deal, ESPN, NBC, and Amazon for a combined $7.4
billion per year. So when you look at that $7 billion, media rights will likely lock
in a 10% cap growth. That is a max that the cap can go up starting in the 25-26 season. So the cap will top $200 million in 28-29.
A 35 max salary that year projects to be $72 million.
Fifth year on that max deal, $95 million.
And up to $420 million on the value of that contract.
So when you look at the growth of this league and where it's come from,
from when you guys are playing to where it is now, did you ever imagine a day
where an NBA player could make nearly $100 million in a season?
Yeah.
I mean, we're in a league where the numbers are moving up
every other year.
So obviously, right, we've never seen any league
that go from $100 million to $30 million, right? We've never seen any league that go from 100 million to 30 right we've never seen it scale
backwards so you know at some point it was going to hit these numbers i'm pretty sure back when
it was making five thousand dollars a game they didn't think people were going to be millionaires
right so who's right you know 20 year 26 million dollar dude We're talking about 500, there's going to be kids that
like
that's going to be billionaires
You know, you're talking about
like, not even
this generation, Wimby's going to be a
billionaire while he's playing
Faster than what LeBron
was, and then the generation after that
Right, so so you know um
Big media's lied to us
You should be honest where they say the views down or are they trying to trick us with the views that obviously the fucking views
Ain't down if they're giving up seven billion dollars for fucking NBA rights a year
But yeah, I hear point four right so how is the money going up but the view's down? Shut up and tell the truth.
I think the way that it looked back then when KG got his big money and Shaq got his big money,
that was like $100 million a year.
That's what it felt like.
That's what it felt like.
Shaq got how much?
Ticket got how much?
Like what?
And now it's like the reciprocation of all of the things that we put into the game
and what they see we put into the game.
Even what we're doing right now is helping viewership for the game
because we're analyzing and breaking it down
so that the regular audience members can go in and go watch the game differently
and enjoy the game differently.
So I think we're all collectively a part of what's going on.
The $7 billion is just the tip of the iceberg, though.
I think they're going to renegotiate that
because they want to trickle down and reinvest into the WNBA
because they see what's happening with that.
So now you look at the TV rights and being able to watch simultaneously both leagues
and then endorsement deals, like you said,
when are we going to be able to tackle that billion just on endorsements alone?
No, I'm not even talking about off the court.
I'm talking about on the court.
On the court, he's going to hit a billion.
How much has Jason Tatum made so far?
He's already, what, 300?
Just, like, you're counting, like, I think with the four seasons, the one that you said you were talking about, He's already what, 300?
800?
What are the signs so far worth the contract money?
He has to be in the 3-4, right?
Give me one second.
Not yet.
No.
So career earnings so far are just $120.
Then he'll get that $315.
What the fuck you mean $120?
After his rookie deal, he signed a max deal, right?
What is it?
Five-year 196?
Yeah, what are you talking about?
So 196.
So 192, excuse me.
So 192.
192 based on through 2025.
Then once he gets that max 315, he'll be about close to 500.
Close to 500.
Excuse me, 507. And then after that, so he won't, like that's it.
So he's not it.
It's going to be, like I said, that, damn, it might be.
It could be.
It'll be Anthony Edwards.
It'll be Ant-Man because Ant-Man just signed 219, 2-something.
Yeah, 241.
He just went up with that extra 421.
So it's him that wouldn't be the first probably billionaires
or whoever's going to be coming in right around now.
Yeah.
Maybe the billion-dollar players on the court we wouldn't be probably more than anybody else probably
and rachel you talked about because this first deal is 55 million right yeah
bread time you talk you talk about this show and helping the growth of the league so
just had to announce to you guys we are also all eligible for super max extensions
yeah from underdog fantasy. So, bring some bread. Super max.
They're like, yeah, we got the max Magic Johnson deals.
We hit the game's minimum.
20 years.
20 mil.
We officially hit the game's minimum today.
And then lastly, obviously, with this new deal, TNT,
getting pushed out to paint means the end of Inside the NBA
after next season.
We talked about it last week, but...
They're gonna land on one of them,
so they'll be all right.
Or we just take their corners over.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, they've been together forever.
They're going to...
I'm just saying, you know how it is, J.O.
They ain't just going to get rid of them dudes
and they've been on TV all along.
Who, TNT?
Yeah, they...
I mean, Charles can go to...
Charles can dip. He's got to opt out. I think Ernie's the only one who... No, I'm saying he can go to's TNT? Yeah. I mean, Charles can go to. Charles can dip.
He's got to opt out.
I think Ernie's the only one.
No, he can go to college.
Right?
College.
But they don't have.
Trust me.
They ain't going nowhere.
Basketball night in America.
But some of them got smart.
I think.
Tony Dungy.
You know, because, you know, if you look at Shaq's podcast, he started in December.
Right? When was that first cut when damn near half ESPN, when everybody got cut? Jack's podcast, he started in December, right?
When was that first cut when damn near half ESPN, when everybody got cut?
It was in the summer.
Right, so when it got summer,
Club Shea Shea, Stephen A. Smith,
everybody, all of them got smart
and realized they needed a safety net, right?
So we're going to use, like JJ,
I have this platform, I have my own platform.
I'm going to use this, build the audience off of this big, so if something ever happens
to me, I have my core audience and I can survive until I find my next move.
Right?
And some of them didn't look at that warning.
No.
Right?
You're going to need different platforms
so when they cut your legs off,
you still got another leg
to stand on.
Or then build this
and then, hey,
look who I am right now.
You want to rehire me?
Let's go back up.
Move around podcast.
Coming soon.
Coming soon.
And you got some stuff
in the works.
But for all the other analysts out there that want to be analysts,
come on over to Def Row.
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Make your offer.
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All right, let's get into it.
We had Western Conference Finals game one last night.
So on Sunday after the Wolves overcame a 20-point second-half deficit
to dethrone the defending champion Nuggets in Denver,
let it be known who we wanted to guard in the Western Conference Finals.
It's going to be fun, man.
You know, my matchup is going to be Kyrie, so that's going to be fun.
We're going to see what I can do versus him.
So Ant later said that him and all defensive pick Jaden McDaniels
will be spending time guarding both Luka and Kyrie.
Well, in game one, Luka and Kyrie showed Ant-Man he was barking up the wrong tree.
So Kyrie was cooking in the first half,
scoring 24 of his 30 points to keep the Mavs within striking distance.
Kyrie was 11 for 14 in the first two quarters of the game.
Jaden McDaniels was getting it done offensively for the Wolves
with 19 points in the first half.
He was 5 for 6 from 3 in that half.
Game was back and forth with 14 lead changes. Things got turnt up in the first half. He was 5 for 6 from 3 in that half. Game was back and forth with 14 lead changes.
Things got turnt up in the second half.
Early in the fourth quarter, the Mavs were down 5.
Luka took over, scoring 7 straight points.
It's part of a 13-0 Mavs run to take an 8-point lead
with a little over 7 minutes remaining.
Luka scored 15 of his 33 points in the final period.
Wolves came clawing back.
Cat and that man hit back-to-back threes
to give Minnesota a 4-point lead.
Then Luka and P.J. Washington returned the
favor with a pair of threes of their own.
I think he was going to hit
the rim.
I think he was going to hit the rim. Yeah, so with the
Wolves down four with under 10 seconds remaining, Nas Reed
tipped in a cap
to cut it to two, and then Cat had that
Okay, I don't, I've
never jumped that high. That offensive goal
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've never jumped that high. I'll tell you whatandy? Yeah, that's what I said. I've never jumped that high.
I'll tell you what he did, right?
If you really look at it, he grabbed it.
He could have just normally just dunked the ball right in, right?
He grabbed it, held it for a minute, then dunked it back in.
So to make it look like it was off the rim.
So what's the rule?
It looked like it was going to hit the rim.
So they say it was still in the cylinder.
But, I mean, from this angle, it's tough to see. But when you see when he grabs it, it looks like
you see where it is. Yeah. So like right there, it looks like it's out the cylinder.
But so it's not because there's still going to jump and grab it. Right.
OK, so when he touches it, it's outside the cylinder. Right.
He ain't got a hand on it yet. So right there. It's going to hit the rim.
So if it hits the rim, that's that's considered the cylinder right there. He ain't got a hand on it yet. Right there. It's going to hit the rim. So if it hits the rim, that's considered a cylinder?
It was going to hit the rim.
When it was coming back down, right?
And that cylinder goes all the way up.
Yeah, it probably would have hit the rim, so that's not allowed?
No, he can't grab it.
It looks tough from both those angles, but it still is.
Like from that overhead angle, it looks like it goes out of it.
That's why he grabs it first instead of just dunking right back in.
He grabs it first.
And the other question, it don't look like it would have bounced back in if he didn't touch it.
It was going to bounce out.
Yeah.
It was going to hit the lip of the rim and bounce out.
Also, it's not, see, that's why I never jumped that high to hide these problems.
Right?
I ain't got to worry about that.
So that's your expertise.
Yeah, I just grabbed it off and just try to throw it.
But, yeah.
So, Luka and Kyrie combined for 63 points.
Luka had 33, 6 rebounds, 8 assists, 3 steals.
Ky had 35 rebounds and 4 assists.
P.J. Washington had 13, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks.
Derek Lively had 9 points, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks.
Kat and Gobert were combined 0 for 10 with Lively as their primary defender.
Just food for thought.
So, Amon had 19, 11 rebounds, 8 assists, but he was 6 for 16 from the field, 5 for 12 from
3.
Like I said earlier, McDaniels, Cooken had 24 and 4 rebounds, third straight 20 point
game.
Kat had 16 points.
What?
Okay, go ahead.
What were you saying?
No, no, go ahead.
Kat had 16 points, but was 6 for 20 from the field, 2 for 9 from 3.
Gobert at 12 and 7,
Nasri came off the bench with 15. So Mavs got their
first game 1 win in the Jason
Kidd era. They were previously
0 and 5 coming into this game. They
improved to 5 and 2 on the road this postseason.
So after the game, Kyrie was asked about
Ant's comments before the series
started. Kyrie, you at home
minding your business the other night.
What about it? You put your beautiful family
just chilling, probably having a nice meal
and then the young fella says,
I got Kyrie.
And you said,
excuse me? And he said it again.
He said, I got Kyrie.
That's the most aggressive you've been
in a long time. Yes, sir.
I know that had to irk you a little bit.
Well, use it as a motivation.
You know, when I was sitting at home and I saw it,
I was like, it's just a nod of respect.
And that no fear mentality that he has is what,
is why I love him as a competitor
and why I love him as a person.
But we're on that court.
I know he's going to give his all.
I'm going to give him my all.
And at the end of the game, you know, it's all love.
And we're in between those lines.
He knows what it is, and I know what it is.
So what lesson did Ant-Man and the Wolves learn in game one?
The same lesson I learned when I said something about Dwyane Wade.
Some people you just got to shut your mouth about
because they take that shit personal.
But, you know, like we said it here,
like we knew that was going to trigger someone like Kyrie, and it showed in the first half.
Like, right now, if you think about if Kyrie would have started the first half, like, he started every game before that comment.
Y'all would have probably been up 20.
But the fact that he took it personal and he showed you and held them together the first half with 20-something points.
Like telling Colby, I'm going to shut you down.
I'm a Kobe stopper.
Think about them people.
I'm a Kobe stopper.
I'm a Jordan stopper.
Rashad, I see you shaking your head.
That wasn't the energy that he gave off.
He challenged.
He took the challenge.
I mean, if we all watched the game, right?
All right, Dallas had a scheme.
Every time Ant-Man caught the balls, elbows, and boxes,
we ain't letting you get off on your shit and a damn near double-teaming you every time you make a drive.
The effort he had to put in offensively and defensively
is something he wasn't used to.
And that's why he got gassed out in the fourth.
Now, you look at Dallas' defense,
how they could take breaks and conserve their energy for the offense. It was a great scheme
I don't think Minnesota ski up planned to scheme on Kyrie and Luca until the fourth quarter when they got going
There was one-on-one matchup throughout the whole game
So when you look at how Ant-Man has to guard and McDaniels has to guard with no help and we just defensive team
We're just gonna see what we can do with these guys by ourselves it did not fucking work yeah right so then you look
at the other side Kyrie not guarding that man head up exerting energy so he don't have that energy at
the end of the game to have 30 so that's why to me when I look at the matchups it's like yeah Kai
you could be irked and be challenged by that but it's like if you're not gonna go down and guard him the way he's guarding you
The scheme saves you but is it smart on the map?
If you tell me you about the lock me up didn't say that
He didn't say nothing about no locking up. He said I'm gonna have to guard Kyrie
And he said and I scored 24 in the first half the fuck are you talking about the fourth quarter for? You're doing what you're supposed to do.
Get 24 points put on you?
Doing what you're supposed to do, but you're saving yourself on defense, too.
That wasn't the question.
He didn't say, I want him to guard me.
The challenge is I'm stopping him because you're the defensive player.
Okay, did it work?
I have to take the challenge because I'm the best player on my team.
Okay, cool.
Just like any other best player on your team.
Kobe took the challenge on LeBron, on D-Wade,
on Paul Pierce,
and all of those guys. But if it didn't
work... You have to recalibrate and
go do something else. That's what we're talking about.
Should he have shut the fuck up? No, it ain't got
nothing to do with shut the fuck up. It got everything to do with your
defensive strategy. It didn't work.
Exactly. They got to go and do something
different. It ain't got nothing to do with Ant saying
what he's saying. It's got everything to do with the team. If I'm averaging... El go and do something different. It ain't nothing to do with Ant saying what he's saying.
It's got everything to do with the team.
If I'm averaging four points in the first half, every game, and you say you're going to stop me,
and I scored 24 points for you in the half, obviously what you said triggered me. He never said he was going to stop you.
He never said
anything like that. You publicly say
you're going to guard him. Kyrie Irving
has to step up and stop
averaging four points in the first half
because it's the fucking finals.
Not because somebody challenged
him. Period. He knows what
the fuck time it is. I got to cut it
up. But what I'm saying is you're trying
to change
what he said. He's saying he
heard it. I heard what he
said, motherfucker, and I took it.
So, Connery was averaging seven points
per game in the first half.
Seven points per game in the first half.
So, let's put the puzzle together, right?
So, the narrative against Denver is
that Anthony Edwards locked down Jamal Murray. Yes, no? That's what he said. Right. So the narrative against Denver is that
Anthony Edwards locked down Jamal Murray. Yes. No. Mm-hmm. That's what he said. No, no, I'm saying today I didn't say he what he said. I said the narrative like listen to what I'm saying young fella
the narrative out there with media and everything is that
Anthony Edwards is this hell of a defender right and that he that he shut down Jamal Murray during that round, right?
That's the narrative. So that's where the question
came from, stems from.
You played hell of a defense on Jamal
Murray this round. Got Dallas.
Kyrie going to be my matchup.
This, that, and the third.
Said he used his motivation.
But the narrative is out there that
he's this hell of a defender. So that's
why it's being brought up
by charles and everybody being talked about because the narrative out there that anthony
edwards is this hell of a own ball defender and that somehow some way he was going to be able to
do the same thing that he did to jamal murray that he was going to do to Kyrie Irving. And we sit here on this couch on Tuesday and
said, with that mentality,
you can't go say
that publicly and you're going to have to exert
that much energy having to play this guy.
And it showed its ugly
head in the first
game. So,
the narrative is out there that he's this hell of a
defender and that he was going to do the same thing to Kyrie
that he did to Jamal Murray.
And we said no.
Don't do that.
And don't.
But he's not the same player as Jamal Murray.
That's the thing.
All right?
Jamal Murray don't handle the ball like Kyrie.
He's not as crafty as Kyrie.
He don't move as gracefully as Kyrie.
And he was dealing with an injury.
So it's not the same matchup.
It's not the same animal like we said on Tuesday.
It's just not.
So you can't go into it with that mentality.
It's that you got to let the game play out for itself
and not be so rave up to play defense against this dude
because it's exhausting right
you you over doing all this trying to stop him and you're not gonna do it you're just not like
you're wearing yourself up to play defense against this dude and it's you play your regular defense
that you've been playing and not have to be that excited about guarding
him because you still got to go do it on the other end.
Yeah, for sure.
Right.
So the narrative out there is that he was going to stop and, well, play better defense
on him than anybody has.
So in the one game that Luka and Kyrie played against the Wolves in the regular season,
I think they combined for 69 points.
The Mavs won that game.
But do we feel like, obviously, Ant coming off a win in of winning the game seven feeling himself just dethrone the defending champ
anything he say could be perceived as disrespect.
Play the clip again.
Paulo can you play the Ant-Man clip again please just for reference.
It's gonna be fun man you know my matchup gonna be Kyrie so that's gonna be fun we're gonna see what I can do versus him.
Let's play the whole interview first
Yeah, my matchup is gonna be
Matt because the narrative out there is that that he's is great that what he did because they talking about the whole thing
Coming off playing Jamal Murray. It's like you don't want to get something
Why are you upset that he took it personal dog? Why are you upset that I'm upset?
Why are you upset that I'm upset
Why can't I just be fucking upset why you got to jump in you want to jump in and choke me out? Cuz I'm over here like I don't like that shit. That's crazy
That's the crazy part. Yeah
I'm breaking down. I don't like it. Yeah
We still haven't heard you keep going to the fourth quarter like I'm breaking down while I don't like it. Yeah We still haven't heard you keep going to the fourth quarter like I'm breaking down while I don't like it
You're being you're being protected not playing the same kind of defense he playing because the Minnesota Timberwolves is not scheming
They're playing straight up. Okay, the Dallas Mavericks are scheming
Drop shit if you listening to the game and all that shit,
that scheme shit is that drop shit,
and that drop shit not going to work like we said in this bitch on Tuesday.
Listen, man, Rudy Gobert ain't going to be a factor
because of how they got to play because he's a liability.
If they don't get up on the screens with him,
they ain't got a chance at hell
because Luka and Kyrie just going to pick and pro until they get him where they want him, and they going got a chance at hell. Because Luka and Kyrie just going to pick and probe
until they get him where they want him,
and they going to exploit the matchups.
What was the score?
So, Mavs won.
By how much?
By three points.
No, no.
What was the score is, this was the point of the score.
Mavs won.
Someone said that, I can't wait for this matchup.
The guy he said it to was averaging seven in the first
half. Seven points
in the first half. He heard what you
said
and for the first time
he was ultra
aggressive in the first half.
It's not the first time.
He averages seven points
in the first half.
Not the first quarter.
First half.
He scored 24.
Okay?
Everybody, history shows when you publicly call out another player,
that player hears it and that player shows up.
So 24 for Kyrie was the most in the first half of this postseason.
He also had 16 against the Clippers in game four in 21 minutes.
Trust me, I know.
Yeah.
I'm just... Right?
Everybody who said, hey, I'm stopping...
When they came out publicly and said, I'm stopping Koba.
Huh?
What do you do?
See, what you want to do is
this is what you want to do. You want to call
me out, right? I bust
your ass and then you be like, why you ain't guarding me?
Well, fucker, I didn't call you out.
You said you was gonna, you
was ready to challenge me. You was ready for this
excitement. I gave you all the excitement.
Did you come to the, did you
buy your ticket to the circus, goddammit?
Cause I'm about to show you something.
Can you play the clip one more time for this nigga?
It's going to be fun, man. You know,
my matchup is going to be Kyrie, so that's going to be fun.
My matchup is going to be Kyrie.
It's going to be fun.
My matchup, yeah, it was definitely fun.
He almost had a triple-double.
He had to keep his team
in the game another way.
Was it fun? I'm pretty sure 24 in the first half didn't seem so fun.
It don't seem fun, motherfuckers.
When it is an individual matchup, when you love a team game,
it was a great game throughout and through.
Kyrie showed up and did what the fuck he's supposed to do.
He's Kyrie Irving.
Luka Doncic did what the fuck he's supposed to do.
Everybody did their job.
Just ended up that they lost by three.
We're not talking about the three.
I don't like the way that they lost by three. We're not talking about the three. We're not talking about the three.
I don't like the way that they lost because they could have still won the game because if they win the game, are we talking about that?
You got cooked.
He didn't say it.
You got cooked by Kyrie.
Nobody give a fuck about that.
He didn't say it.
You get cooked.
Yeah.
If you get cooked, you get cooked.
That's the problem with the NBA.
You're scared to get cooked.
And Edwards ain't scared to get cooked.
But that's not what we're talking about.
That's what I'm talking about.
Oh, you're talking about something different then. We're not talking about if he was scared to get cooked. But that's not what we're talking about. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, you're talking about something different then.
We're not talking about if he was scared to get cooked or not.
We're saying that what he said, it didn't work out for him.
That's all we're saying.
It did work out for him.
Just like they said on there.
It did work out for him.
It worked out for him.
They lost, bro.
It worked out for him.
They lost and he lost.
They get to make an adjustment.
They lost.
They get to make an adjustment.
Maybe on his adjustment speed it might make a little difference.
They lost.
It didn't work out for the team. It worked out for Ed, man, to get to see that he don't need to play like on his adjustment street They lost it didn't work out for the team it works man to get a CD
He don't need to play like that no more low. Okay, I don't need to play like that
So that means what you're talking about. It didn't work. So maybe next time he might say something different, right?
You're trying to argue about words time. They won the game. I mean Ant-Man is gonna continue to play the same way
They did but that's what I said you're arguing about something
You lost so nigga. That's it. There's nothing you can argue about next time
Okay, okay
So we asked the chat to Kyrie answer at man's challenge
91% said yes, but Rashad I got it obvious
Fridge upon my hosting duties. No, I'm just kidding
Is it obvious
Yeah, you about to spill more water on your shirt fucking around and that she just dried up
No, I've been I've been keeping the tally going. Let's all stick together. What's crazy? This is a great cop, but let's get more into it and we're shot. I understand what you're saying
And nobody ever understands what the fuck I'm saying.
I see all of you.
And embrace the challenge of guarding Kyrie.
Were you expecting Kyrie to guard and back?
Because I think that map scheme of not doing that.
No, I wasn't.
No, I wasn't.
They have to protect their play.
They don't play one-on-one defense.
And they've already been assumed to not play good one-on-one defense.
Well, that's called good coaching.
That's called good coaching.
Shit, I know I got two probabilities on here. know I forget in the lives for playing bad defense is because they wasn't
playing good team defense where they got to live in Minnesota Timberwolves play
good individual defense throughout the season and this is not a team that you
can do that with because they got to it a best one-on-one offensive players in
the league you can't do that you got to change up yeah you got to change that
drop camera shot whatever they got to change up. Yeah, they got to change that drop cover shot. Whatever they got to change, they got to change.
They got to change that drop cover.
I'm going to tell you this shit right now.
Wolves are going to have to go smaller?
Or just Gobert is going to need to move around?
Either one or two things are going to have to happen.
I don't know what I'm talking about, man.
If you're going to have to demand this motherfucker to be up on the screen,
Rudy Gobert and Cat, Nasri, whoever your bigs is, you have to put two on them and make lively
what I'm saying.
When they made lively, make plays at the free throw line and Gafford, it wasn't that successful.
But you let these dudes turn the corner and play one-on-one, come downhill, it's a problem,
man.
It is a problem.
Because you got two of them.
It ain't like you got one guy that you got a scheme for this shit for.
They can swing that bitch and he's coming down.
It's just, it's an issue.
It's an issue.
And he's not, historically, he hasn't been up on the pick and roll.
So they know this.
You listen to Kyrie said that.
Draymond said it.
Everybody's like, no.
Van Gundy said it during the game.
Like, that drop coverage ain't it, man.
Oh, yeah, they're going to put Rudy out.
They shouldn't be playing Rudy and Anderson in at the same time
Because that's two people we don't have the guard so we can just pack the lane
Yeah, well caught it. I mean 11 in the game was big in the first quarter, but understand what
Get off his rebound put it back in but from the jump shot
I mean you can throw that knuckleball all you want to talk about the fact that he shot five of them is crazy
We're gonna keep letting him shoot it. Well, he shot three. I think he three.
Whatever it is.
It don't matter.
Just keep it.
Keep shooting it.
It's better him shooting that bitch than Anthony Edwards shooting that motherfucker.
I'll tell you that much right now.
He was five for eight.
Kyle was five for eight, one for three from three.
Hey, he going to have to.
Yeah.
In the playoff series, we're going to make the ball find him.
And that's what you guys always talk about.
Guy might get some confidence early.
Absolutely.
Go ahead.
Keep going.
I hope you go four for six in the first half from three.
Please do.
Because guess what?
You're going to have to shoot 12 of them in the second half.
So let's talk about something else in that game.
Ant, 22 years old, coming off that game seven against the Nuggets,
playing in Denver out to two.
Obviously feeling himself like any 22-year-old would after beating the defending champs,
but appeared gassed in the second half.
Really?
And talked about it after the game.
We came out flat today.
That's a positive.
And then we found our energy, then we went back to being flat.
So I think it was just on us.
Everything was on us today.
I didn't get downhill as much.
Yeah, just stuff like that.
We was just a little tired probably.
So Cat also said that the Wolves were tired.
The fuck you tired for?
I think it's 22.
I can understand him being tired because, you know, he poked a bear.
I can understand that because he's got to play offense and defense now.
Cat, who you guarding?
Who the fuck you guarding?
This ain't Yolk.
This is a whole different series.
Ant-Man has to play real deep because he has two dudes to guard.
I don't buy that you're tired of shit.
You just ran around and played that altitude in Denver like that at 22 years old
and chased Jamal Murray around and playing.
No, that I'm tired shit, no.
No, no, no. But I get it here
because he's bouncing from
Luka and Kyrie.
I can get it.
Karl-Anthony, you
had to guard Jokic.
Right?
Cool.
Who the fuck you guarding in this to be tired?
Who you guarding in this series to be tired?
You should be fresh than a motherfucker out there.
Because you ain't got nobody.
There ain't nobody bumping you.
You got a 6'6", small four, damn near guard.
And you're standing prim. You shot nine threes. Yeah, nine out of his 20 shots were threes. You got a 6'6", small four, damn near guard. Guarding you, and you got a...
And you're standing in the perimeter.
You shot nine threes.
Yeah, nine out of his 20 shots were threes.
Nine out of your 20 shots were threes.
And you're standing in the perimeter.
You ain't down to banging and...
This man is guarding it damn near.
Rashad, you have some thoughts, it appears.
PJ Washington.
Did he say we or me?
Did Cat say we was tired or did he say I was tired?
I think he said we as a collective.
I'm not 100% sure though, but...
So Cat could not be tired because he'd be like,
I was fresh.
We as a team look tired.
We look tired.
He said the Wolves were tired and Cat were combined 12 for 36.
What did he say exactly?
We will hunt it down. We was that I
Mean yeah, my fucking shoes right Davis. They look tired out there boss
Them they I'm fresh so it didn't play with enough energy just look tired
He was using whee's and not me's. Yeah.
We, we, we, we, we, you, you, you.
Everybody become Frenchmen.
You know what's wrong with France?
Great country.
I understand, but the game was close, right?
It wasn't like they came out and got blew out.
I could understand them saying that shit if that would have happened.
If they would have came out and get dogs thumped by 20,
I could understand, like, it was a letdown.
We just came off a tough game seven.
I understand that.
But it was a close game.
And it feels like a game that could have went either way.
You guys always say game ones are the easiest ones for a team to steal.
It's not like the Wolves.
I mean, they got a lot of positives they can take from this.
When your two best players are 12 for 36 from the field,
I think they shot 11 for 19 from the free throw line.
Cat with obviously that tip-in goes his way.
We may be looking at a different ball game, but they did not win.
How many dumb plays are we going to see at the end of the game during this playoffs?
You have one in particular?
No, it's been a note.
Even the Mavs inbound with the timeout with the eight seconds.
And the foul, like green foul, the dude on the three.
How many times, dude?
It's happened entirely too much in these playoffs.
It's wild.
Who's the bigger team here?
Wolves, right?
By far, right?
It's not even close, right?
Because on Dallas, Luka's the second biggest player on the court.
Behind Gafford?
Yeah, behind Gafford or Lively when he's playing.
So he's the second.
How tall is Derrick Jones?
6'6".
Yeah.
6'7".
He's an arm.
Yeah, just an arm.
Damn, I thought he was taller.
Right, so how do y'all have 49 threes?
How is the team that's supposed to dominate inside have 49 threes
and the smaller team is saying, yeah, y'all weak now?
That was the problem.
The problem is you guys are a great defensive team.
We didn't beat you with threes.
We came inside.
Beat you inside.
With paint points.
Where Rudy is and Cat is.
We came to your house and got to the free throw line
and attacked that rim when we're the small team
and we're supposed to be shooting all the threes.
So Mavs had 62 paint points to the Wolves' 38
in the game.
That makes sense. I mean, it makes sense
where if you're a smaller team, you're going to
try to keep them out of the lane
where that's where you're
supposed to post up. But if you're the smaller
team getting... The smaller team
getting inside
seems a little weird for a team that
has shot blockers and
defenders down there just it's a lot of contradiction on but I mean you look at
the world to do something to it or big like they're cad now I play more like
it's like they're paper defenders you know you gotta work paper champs paper
defenders number one defense in the league league. It seems like it's all paper.
Yeah, I just...
Everybody do something different.
Look at this tape.
They got to make a decision what they're going to do about this pick and roll shit.
I'm telling you right now.
You remember yesterday you were talking about true percentage?
Remember that bullshit?
Hey, can y'all do a true percentage shooting on 18 for 49 from a three?
How much does that turn into?
Because I know they only scored 105.
Because I know they took 53s out of damn 90 shots.
That seems weird.
Like, how does that work?
Are they, huh?
How does that turn into twos?
Translates to like around 55%.
55% if they took all twos?
Well, God.
Not if, just with.
If you just count a field goal as two points.
Did you watch the game?
Yeah.
I watched it on three TVs.
I watched it twice.
Was Dallas in like a zone?
Did you call it a zone?
Had the bigs back and said that.
Did you call it a zone?
He experienced it.
The first two scenes, he felt like the big was up.
Pass, pass, pass, shot.
With no real big presence.
There was no flash to the middle.
There was no high-low.
There was no none of that.
So it was really come off the pick and roll.
We'll match it. We'll switch it. We'll all drop when you do that. There was no none of that. So it was really come off the pick and roll.
We'll match it. We'll switch it.
We'll all drop when you do that.
Now you got to swing it. Now you got to swing it.
Now you got to shoot it.
That's what it looked like to me.
So that's why I think that they shot a lot of threes is because the scheme worked.
They missed a lot of shots, too,
but they missed a lot of shots they could have made.
I'm going to tell you the mind of where this is coming from.
They got one playmaker.
Mm-hmm.
One.
We make him get off the ball.
Mm-hmm.
How we going to play him?
We're going to go in to make him shoot jump shots, threes.
We got one playmaker.
We're not worried about Mike Conley beating us off the bounce.
We're not worried about Alexander beating us off the bounce.
We're not worried about McDaniels beating us off the bounce. We're not worried about Kyle economy being us off the bounce We're not worried about Alexander's being off the balance. We're not worried about McDaniels being off the bound We're not worried about Kyle Anderson being us off the bounce
We're not worried about cat posting up and I'm bird about Rudy posting up the only threat really offensively they have out there
That's a metro problem is Nas Reed. Mm-hmm
So jay kid is playing this shit like he's looking at it and like okay this like what I was saying they was boxing elbows they pass motherfuckers off and they making them other dudes stand
and just fire threes up so and they gonna live and die by the three or they gonna have
to do something different like it's so he said they could do high low right that'll
work I don't know if it'll work but they didn't look at it so whose fault is that I didn't
say it was nobody's fault I'm just asking fault? I guess it was Timberwolves' fault.
Chris Fitch?
You know, Dallas is known for playing the zone.
49 threes, I mean.
They've been playing zone for a long time.
I'm weird, when the zone come in?
Do y'all think, I don't have no idea.
Zone came in around like what, 2003, right?
And they zoned in, right?
And we didn't sit there and waste our time shooting a bunch of old
Jump on jump shot. We knew how to get to where the fuck was gonna get to
The other day they go blame this like the code if they lose the West Coast
I say gonna blame the coaching situation on dude not being on the front. Did they blame it for?
The Timberwolves coach finish not being able to be
right
to try to Not cuz it was two positions away from winning which but overall I'm saying the series
I think they're doing a good job of mediating because I see him behind the bench talking
You know, I'm saying? I see them.
Are we too down on the Wolves?
Because, Shia, you said it's a three-point game.
No, no, no. I'm not saying.
Not down on them.
It was a very winnable game.
That's the point.
Are they going to win a series?
Yeah.
But the thing is.
You think the Wolves are going to win a series?
I don't.
Because I think the Mariners are going to beat them, bro.
You think they're going to shoot this bad?
49?
I mean, they lost by two.
Did you hear what I just said, Gil? Yeah, I heard what you said're gonna shoot this bad 49. I mean they'd love to do
Did you see what I just said? Yeah, yeah, I heard what you said
They're not gonna listen the way Jake hit is playing them. Just watch it again, bro. They got one playmaker
They got one and how they guarding him in the picking roles. Mm-hmm
They switching it switch boxing elbows them dudes And then they closing out the dude's body making them make they not playmakers off the bounce. I
Know I can't I really listen dudes had 63, right?
Tim Hardaway didn't play. Well, PJ Washington didn't play well to a Tim Hardaway don't even play but I'm saying he didn't know He don't play don't even play no more. He only played like five, ten minutes. He played ten minutes a game.
But he didn't get no looks.
Did not take a shot.
He didn't take a shot.
P.J. Washington played.
That's impressive for Tim Hardaway.
It looked like Tim Hardaway has proven a point now.
Well, that's impressive for him.
That's what I'm saying.
It looks like he's perfect.
Like, if you look at the last series and they haven't been playing him,
it looks like he's purposed.
He was hurt.
He was hurt.
No, he came back.
But I'm saying he looked like he's like, yo, you ain't going to give me no shot.
He looked like he gave up. I don't know. Well, that dude's, but I'm saying he's like you know, give me a shot It like he's you know, he gave her I don't know what I do is playing well
But I just think I think that was gonna beat them
I think the adjustments need to happen on the Minnesota Timberwolves side defensively before we could say
Who can do what because if you don't adjust to what Luca and Kyrie doing?
We're looking at the the scores the same, but the outcome being...
When the Mavs won the game, it was because Luka hit that shot on McDaniels with, what,
30 seconds left?
On the right, on the left.
On the right, on the right.
The three, the three.
That step back three.
No, the jumper.
The jumper, yeah.
The two, the two.
When he went right.
That shit was, it was a dagger, right?
Because that was right after Cat just got called for the goaltend.
So that was a tie game. Like, for the the goaltending so that was a
tie game it's like if that don't happen it's the tie game yeah so you're looking at right that
possession changes luca makes that move because we're up to this concealed the deal so i'm looking
at it like all right if you get a stop right there luca misses that shot we got another chance to tie
the game instead of actually saying we got a foul now like
that's it's the differences between getting a good stop and having a great offensive player
which is goes back to my thing with with ant-man challenging kairi because he knows mcdaniels has
to take luca it's the better player like you gotta take that challenge i'm not i mean we don't i don't
think that smoke with luca cooks Luka cooked McDaniels.
And he cooked him.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like Joker.
Joker going to cook
whoever in front of him.
Kyrie going to cook.
If you wake him up,
he going to cook you
even more than he would
in the fourth quarter
without him scoring
in the first half.
You going to lose
this battle anyway
if you going to head up.
But if you attack it
the way that the Mavs
attacked it,
they're going to have a tougher chance. And that's how I'm looking at the adjustments for the T wolves is adjust make the adjustments
Based on what they're doing now
Not what you can do. So what you just said, right?
We're saying the same like the same thing but like
the swing so if ain't get off of it, right, we'll just say if Minnesota was to try to play the same scheme defensively that Dallas did, right, it doesn't work.
It worked because you can swing it to Kyrie or you can swing it to Luke, and now they got another playmaker, which Minnesota don't have.
But for those two, if we work it on both of them, depending're depending on Derrick Jones to hit shots, PJ to hit shots.
But they shooting that bitch.
They are, but we're going to have to live with that.
I'm with you.
You know what I'm saying?
Because remember the two games that they had, big games in the OKC?
OKC tried that same scheme, and they hit shots, so they had to get out of it.
So it's one of those things you've got to live with.
You can't allow those guys to just be.
I'm not worrying about – I don't think Timberwolves is worried about it.
It's like, we lost three and we shot horrible.
Right? If they're gonna keep playing
their zone, we're not gonna keep shooting
18 for 49. Right?
If we shoot 20 for 49, we win
this game. Right? So the fact that
we shot really bad, Ant-Man played
really bad, our two best players played bad,
their two players played great,
and we only lost by three.
It kind of gives me some hope.
It's not like if they would have lost by 20, then there.
But the fact that we shot horrible, you played horrible, you played horrible,
and we only lost by three, if that don't go in, it probably changes the game.
I don't see them panicking right now.
So we'll see.
If you play better, but the fact that you lost game one at home in a Western Conference final.
Yeah.
That's the more.
That's all I'm saying.
What's so funny.
By 20, by three.
It was one shot away from being a blowout twice.
Right?
Like Timberwolves was up 11, 12.
One shot.
Luka takes one bad step back.
We're looking at a 20-point blowout.
Right?
So the fact that they...
That's what I said.
It's like at the right time,
that motherfucker gets smart.
Yes.
Right?
At the right time,
it's like he can sense,
like, oh, this...
You know, let me drive.
Yeah.
Right?
He just took two bad step backs
and he's like, all right, let me drive and take two drives took two bad step backs and he's like all right
let me drive and take two drives get a little and one floater boom now they down five again
then here comes the three now they down two it's like at the right time god damn it you take
and it's a learning curve for ant-man if you really think about everything that you said in
the beginning when you take the challenge and you exert all that anxiety energy trying to stop Kyrie instead of just playing solid defense and if you look at the end of the
game when he was gassed we needed that downhill energy from you we didn't have it because you're
trying to stop Kyrie that's why Ky knows the edge he slows slows the game down. Oh, you trying to stop me.
Can't nobody stop me.
But if you play with the energy of containing me,
that would give you, you'd give yourself some energy.
I think Ant-Man goes back to the drawing board and say,
I can't be so anxious to try to stop him or block the shot or make everyone see me as a great defensive player
and just play the angles play the energy
I don't need all that cuz now I'm depleted like he's walking back to the timeout like really gas
22 years old. I'm just saying you better back your ass up and pick him up after half court
Because the learning curve for that's also he got to learn that you better trust me man, you can't come
Pick his ass up That's why I'm saying he got to learn that. He better. Trust me, man. You can't come. Oh, hey. If you're going to do that, let's call you.
Call you, pick his ass up, get him a little tired,
then I'll pick him up at the half.
Obviously, Ant came in, again, feeling himself as he should with everything he's been able to accomplish this postseason.
I think learned a valuable lesson.
But, Kenny, like you said, Wolves tricking this game off,
but based on how that previous series against the Nuggets played out,
do you think it's a big deal for him?
I have to go up 2-0, lose three straight, win two more.
Stakes are...
Significantly higher, but just...
Trust me.
Been there, bro.
Like, these games, man.
Right now, one point, 20 point, it don't matter, man.
It does not matter how you get it. How it looks, it don't matter man. It does not matter how you get it. Yep. Here's how it looks
It doesn't matter on whose floor it doesn't matter man
Only that win and that loss at this place. You know, it's the first of four. Mm-hmm. I got a game up on you now
That's right. I stole one us. So now I'm playing with house money going in the game too and then heaven forbid
They had 63 between two of them. Mm-hmm
Easily, we know one of them boys can go for 45 at any given day
And don't let PZ Washington come out have and go for 20 do you plan see this is?
You gotta treat this shit like yeah, okay, we was right there.
This is a seven-game game.
No, fuck that.
It's not.
It's one game.
The next one that matters, it's a one-game series.
Each game is a one-game series.
That's the game that's important.
Treat it as if we don't win this, there ain't no tomorrow.
Yep, yep.
It's a big deal.
Okay, it was three-point loss. Yeah.
A lot of positives we did.
Yeah. And guess what the Mavericks
are saying? The exact
same thing that y'all are saying.
We didn't play that great. We can be
better than these. We stole one. We can do
this better. We can do this. Even though we had
62 points in the paint, we didn't shoot well from the three.
We can do da-da-da-da. Even though we had 62 points in the paint, we didn't shoot well from the three, we can do da da da da.
Trust me, they saying the exact same thing.
So I just, I don't mess around with that,
yeah, okay, we should learn, no.
Hey, hey, it's pressure time.
Because don't, okay, we won in Denver,
this is not Denver, this is a whole different series,
this is a whole different coach, It's a whole different animal over here
Chance of correcting in game two absolutely, but
All that it's a long series shit. I don't buy any of that at all
For me, it's one game series each game is one game says how are we gonna play this game right here?
Who gonna get the best of this game right here that we're about to play?
I see the matchup in comparison to the Denver series like we talk about.
The big guard matchup that Timberwolves had,
which is why Cat and Gobert was gassed and more tired than they should have been
because they had to guard Joker.
Then you got MPJ, who was a threat.
Then you got Murray, who was a threat.
These are three guys, right?
So the Timberwolves now are just worried about two guys
and ain't no big that they really got to worry about.
So it's a different matchup where it's like if these guys have off-shooting nights,
we win by 20.
If Kyrie and Luka have an off-shooting night, it's a if these guys have off shooting nights we win by 20 if Kyrie and Luca have an off shooting night it's a 20-point victory so is it that you
guys are not playing good enough defense on them or you're not putting a pressure
on them or you're not putting their team in a situation where they got to depend
on the other guys because you're gonna you're gonna put them in a position
where like you said they can go for 40 any given night,
and if you continue to play defense the way you was playing the night before,
that's what's going to happen.
They'll win the series based on the bigs not having to be a factor.
We can keep Cat and Gobert and Nasri out of the whole equation
because we're playing where they got to shoot threes all game.
They're not even going to the post.
So this is the thing. I think Cat is one-dimensional. You know what he want to do. Rudy is a non-factor.
McDaniels can, he's getting there, but he's still, like I said, the only one that has
multiple things they can do is Anthony Edwards, right?
And Nas Reed a little bit.
And Nas Reed. And Nas Reed.
If Luke is not making threes, you know where he's going.
Yep.
If Kyrie's threes is not falling, you know.
And Luke shoots more threes than Kyrie, of course.
But Ky's going to shoot some, but he's not relying on that three ball,
so you know where he's going.
So if his mid-range ain't falling, he's going to try to get to the basket.
He's going to try to get to the basket. He's going to try to get to the line. They have more ways to attack you
and put them in different ways to be
successful with different motions
where I think Minnesota is limited
in their approach.
I think those differences
is why I think Dallas
is going to win this series because they have
more ways to attack you whether those guys
are making shots or not.
You got them believing now that they're defending.
If you look at a few possessions last night, Luca was ISO 101.
He was moving his feet, bump, boom, boom, boom.
I was like, listen, dog, as long as you give me an honest effort,
you don't just let somebody one blow by you,
you don't give us a chance to help.
I'm cool with the way he defended.
Hey, man, Kai. Look, coach, I can play defense. I'm cool with the way he defended him and Kai
Look, look cold. I try defense. I'm trying so now we can help you. Yeah, right for them
You try we can help you just let me blow by you look at the do blow by you now
We ain't got no hell. Yeah, so I'm turn at least one or two times. We good. Yeah, you did your job to test every shot
No
Can you talk about this this Luke and Kyrie crew being able to go 60 to 70 points?
But it don't got to be 30 30, right? No, I can go 40 guy you give me 20 Can you talk about this Luke and Kyrie crew being able to go 60 to 70 points,
but it don't got to be 30-30, right?
If I'm Luke, I can go 40.
Ky, you give me 20.
That's usually it.
My guard play, give me anything from 50 to 70 combined for them two, was it probably 13, 10 to 15 assists between the two. Between the two, 12, 13 rebounds from your guard play.
As I said, that's your guard play.
If you expect that right there, that's their numbers from your backcourt.
And then trigger down the rest of it.
So, Luke and Kyrie first do it each score 30 in their first conference finals game together
since Steph and KD.
What should be the Wolves' game plan
to slow down Luka and Kyrie?
You have to play the pick and roll.
I said it already.
You have to play the ball different
when them dudes in pick and roll.
You have to.
That drop, it was proven in Utah when Rudy
was in Utah. That drop coverage, the way they was
playing, it does not work this time of year, man.
It doesn't work in this game.
It doesn't work in this game, but
especially right now, because
we are going to exploit
it.
They got two masters with this ball
in his hand. They got a mad scientist
over there as a coach.
Right?
So that recipe is like, we're going to scheme,
we're going to put him in a lot of action, man.
I don't even know why drop action still is a thing.
Like, it's the lazy defense.
No, but I guess back in the 90s, back in the 90s,
it made sense back in the 80s and 90s
because the point guard himself didn't shoot the ball very well
and wasn't aggressive as an offensive threat trying to score.
He was trying to run offense.
But mid-2000s, I loved when Shaq and Alonzo Mourning
sat back there waiting for me to do what I'm pulling up
Right here. Right. I'm pulling right that why you think up? Oh, I don't need to go that damn far fucker
So the fact that the point guard today all shoot
They shoot from the logo, right?
So you drop it at the free throw line.
That's a layup for those guys.
So why are you even in that defense now?
Why does the guard keep going over top?
Because you don't go under on a guard that can shoot.
Why don't we make him shoot it?
Make him shoot it.
Whoever it is.
Go under so we can shoot?
I'm not saying go under
And not contest but remember when we used to play and you go under a certain guy and he shot it
It's a contest either for the big or for the guard. It's still a contested shot
If you're going under two with a guy that can shoot that's a no-no, but if you look at the drop coverage
It's not really a screen there
You're going over top because that's just what
they're telling you to do.
Chase them, keep chasing.
Yeah, chase them, chase them.
So what happens when you chase?
It puts you on my back and that forces me to do
what we train in the cone drills.
Go slow, uh-oh, I got him, I'm watching, I'm watching.
Boom, I can make my move now with no resistance
at all whatsoever.
So if you're going gonna not give me resistance
Why would I put myself at a disadvantage and not go under and force us a lower percentage shot one?
I'm getting you out of the two-point zone
I'm forcing you to look at this three and if you can make a consent to a contested three
On the move off the dribble like that consistently at 40% clip
Because this is because I'm not shooting the three.
What are the guys we're talking about now, I can't.
No, we know that they can, but remember, if they're shooting at 40%,
they're shooting at 40% from the series, contested.
What I'm saying is it's not contested because you're assuming that I'm going
to shoot the first one because you went under.
I'm not, right?
I'm going to come off, oh, shit, you went under, rescreen, I'm going to shoot the first one because you went under. I'm not, right? I'm going to come off.
Oh, shit, you went under?
Rescreen.
I'm getting lower.
That's when the big should come up.
I think you should be up on the first one.
But the big, but what I'm saying is.
You eliminate all of them.
No, no, but because that's his athleticism.
No, because he can go back.
Yeah, you can go back and forth.
I ain't saying you have to.
No, no, but.
You're saying be there.
You're saying flat show.
No, no, but.
Get the level of the screen.
Yeah, flat show.
But we're going to say yours, right?
If you're sagging, right, and I come off the first one,
and then I have a re-screen real quick, boom,
you're not getting here, right?
Right?
So because you're down low,
you're not going to be able to go down low and try to come up here.
So either you're going to be up already or you're fucked
because I'm going to come off, oh, redo it, shoot this bitty because if you try to come up, I'm speeding by you. Right? So you're fucked because I'm gonna come off Oh redo it shoot this MIDI
Cuz if you try to come up I'm speeding by you, but it's like you're in a bad situation
So you have to be up remember how we used to guard the floppy right or know the double screen from the corner
K's coming
Second you're the big big and there's the guard taking big always right?
So what you did was you trailed the first one and when you shot the second one just like this you can go under the
First one trail the second one, uh-huh
Because now the second one if you're because you how you saying you would play it as I'm like, all right
I know what they're doing that he's going under let's just rescreen that shit right away
Bam bam, so I know I don't gotta Kmart on my team
I got a Rudy go bear who's lazy and motherfuckers is just sitting back because it's the easiest thing to do
They let him be lazy.
Right?
So if on the first one
we knowing that
I'm going under
he's not going to take that.
You got to be up
ready to trap that.
We're talking about
eight seconds
on the shot clock
at this point.
Eight seconds
on the shot clock.
We're under the first one.
We're trapping the second one.
We're passing on the weak side.
But that's on a double screen.
Go ahead.
But on a double screen
that got killed too. You follow me on the weak side, but that's on a double screen, but go ahead but on a double screen
The BAP that got killed too you follow me on the first one you go under the second one that guy's drop pick Yeah, so this is gonna be run right into it. Those are the colors that we use but they don't have them counters
So this is my thing, right?
With having guys and drop coverage and they guys say they can't do it and they feet don't work this way or they
Like that shit is like it's BS to me right? Yeah facts
because
Just just take Rudy Gobert. Just take Carl Anthony Towns right in this situation
If you throw Carl Anthony Towns the ball on the block
And tell them to go get a bucket pretty good footwork
Pretty good footwork. Pretty good footwork.
Right?
Yeah.
So you know how to move your feet when you want to.
Yep.
Woody Gobert, yesterday, there was a break.
They didn't throw it to him, but he was like hustling down the middle,
and he asked for it.
You're moving fast as hell asking for the ball.
They throw you that ball on the drop.
You know how to drop, step, and go to dunk that thing.
Your footwork is immaculate then So for me
You don't get a pass with me
When you know how to move your feet
Offensively but you limited
Moving your feet defensively
Nah bro
You can
They letting them be lazy
I'm not asking you to go out there and
No be up at the level.
If you have to make a slide, make a slide.
Make them throw the ball in.
Be in the way.
Be in the way.
That's all I'm saying.
Be up on the level.
Do this at the level of the screen.
That's it.
That's it.
That's a body.
Now, that makes me laugh now because what you're saying makes me laugh
because it was Stan Van Gunney, right?
Dwight had to, Dwight hard showed, got back, stopped the screen, came down, blocked it like one play. He did five stops in one play,
blocked it, someone got it, passed it, dude scored. Dwight, goddammit, Stan Van Gundy
called a timeout. So, you know, good defense just messed up. He goes to Dwight, goddammit. Stan Vanley called a timeout, right?
So, you know, good defense.
Just messed up.
He goes to Dwight.
What happened?
What the fuck do you mean what happened?
He was like, why you didn't block that?
What?
I stopped the hard show, deflected that two blocks.
Hey, they call you Superman.
I'm expecting you to stop every goddamn thing. And I'm sitting here laughing like, that's crazy.
Because the effort he did put in, immaculate, right?
So to see defensive players of the year four times,
and you're not doing all of it.
Lawrence Frank just showed this clip of me
that we was playing, same shit.
Show, boom, boom, boom, I could test the ball
in the far corner.
Like I didn't show, all this shit on the weak, strong side,
the ball got to the weak side
and I could test the shot in the corner.
Like, dude, it's, he used to show this clip all the time.
Y'all wanna see effort?
Watch this.
Watch this.
If you wanna do it, and you do, you're Defensive Playerall want to see effort? Watch this. If you want to do it,
and you're Defensive Player of the Year, right?
Four times.
So you need... Huh.
You're supposed to...
Whatever is needed
in order for us to be able to switch defenses
because you four times,
you should be able to do.
This is...
I'm not asking you to do it.
If you want us to win, listen, I'm demanding
you do this. If you want
us to have a chance to win and go
to the finals, you need
to be up on the screen, dog.
That whole thing is, show me them trophies
as you got four of them.
I don't
need you to be a great help side defender.
That trophy says defensive player of the year a great help side defender that trophy says
defensive player of the year not
help side defender not on the ball
it says defense that means all
inclusive bitch right
when Dennis Rodman was getting it
he was all inclusive
he had to guard somebody
he was picking up 94 feet
when he was playing
Carmel When he was playing Carmelone,
nigga, he was going
Carmelone on offense.
You know what I mean?
I'm defensive player of the year.
Hey, you got the ball.
No, I don't.
My job is to stop you.
All the time.
Right?
The ball go in,
he's picking them up.
He's bumping them full court.
Full court.
And that's what we expect for that trophy
I'm sorry, but this might be the series you gonna have to do it because if they take you out of the game dog
You you should get your trophies back
They'd rather go small and and take off the best defensive player in the last decade off the court to go small
That you give your trophies back sir cuz you
It's a league-wide
I'm not gonna
Cuz you're right, is it a thing right? It's a little absolutely we go we're gonna go watch summer league right?
Mm-hmm summer league those mother when the motherfucker is running to go set a screen they run with them. Mm-hmm
I'm running with them because i can't be late what happens is when a guy runs into a pick and
roll that one guy who's next to him he's late for the screen the one thing that guys in the league
today are afraid of is being late and being to blame for whatever happens in this pick and roll
if you're not in the right spot so the only thing that can cover your ass is to be in drop at least i'm in front of the basket this is rudy's whole mo when he
plays a pick and roll it's just like how y'all was in pick and roll how shack was in pick and roll
they all had an excuse to say at least i'm still here but you're giving up tony parker twos when
we're trying to stop him from getting to the to. He's mastered the shot now. Shaq, you've got to be up
to make him make another decision.
You've got Kyrie and Luka coming off the
same type of shit. You're putting pressure
on the defender where he's like, what the fuck do you
want me to do? McDaniel's got
two fouls from Luka based on
the fact that he was behind him.
You can't play defense behind anybody.
So I'm always looking at the pick and roll.
If you've got Cat out there, who's a more agile defender nazri more agile defender if the coach is keeping them in
drop coverage they have to then think of themselves like damn coach like we might need to change this
but how many veteran guys back then would change that coverage on their own
i know he's changing it i know tickets changing it's changing it. On the fly. Now, now, now, now, listen. When we go back out there, I'm showing.
Yeah, I know Ticket was out there because I seen he popped out.
Whoa, what you doing out here, big fella?
I wasn't used to you trying to hard show.
Y'all wasn't doing that before the time.
Yeah, yeah.
Facts.
That part.
He's like, let me try something different on the fly.
And that's the thing.
Like, the guards, I don't care what guard it is
I wouldn't even give Lonzo ball going right and I know he don't do pull up or back then he didn't do pull-ups going
right, I'm still not dropping on him because
There's the map giving him a mid-range like they're getting creative now. So that's the game
So the reason so do you have when the drop thing came into play, right?
People stopped
shooting mid-range. Only certain guys shoot
mid-range. So they're like,
ain't nobody going to shoot it. So they're trying to stop you
from getting the layups
and the threes. So the drop coverage
is for the mid-range guys
for the non
mid-range game that
all of a sudden... That was James Harden, Russell Westbrook, guys who for the non mid-range game that oh now what that was that was well
James hard and Russell it was coming off the snake even Chris Paul coming off the
snake it was like he was coming off the snake for the line for Lob City wait so
so so they decided to create a offense that only the elite player a decent
plays in a defense a defense that and it only helps the elite. Yes.
Because you're only using this against them. No, no. Because it's like, how else are we going to guard?
No, no, no. So they didn't account for Kevin Durant, Booker,
Kawhi, PG. They didn't account for them with the scheme that they came up with.
No, because they don't have the ball in their hands.
They made it for Steph.
They made this defense for Steph.
For point guards.
No, no, no.
Not point guards.
They made the defense for Steph.
They made it for three-point shooters where we're going to sag because they're
going to only shoot the three and they're going to get to the basket.
We're going to take them off the line.
Right?
And I said, so you made a defense that helps the elite in the world because the elite players today shoot mid-range.
So when Shade comes off the, he don't want to shoot the three, so you're going behind me and you're going to sit there.
Well, fuck it.
This is what I want to do.
Now it looks like cone drills to these guys, right?
I got my trainer sitting back there.
I got the other trainer going behind.
He playing.
I'm sitting there doing this shit and I get this shooting shot because y'all
analytics
Y'all analytics in account for the elite players and it's a league-wide
Adjustment that they made like like we said when you look at every team they're playing and fucking drop
Yeah, we haven't seen one team up on the coverage not even, we don't even see no fucking
showing going under. None of that shit happens anymore.
Because this is like, well, if you're not guarding
an elite point guard, it's like, why would we even do it?
It's either switch or drop. Switch or drop. That's it.
So you know when I realized
like when I was with the Clippers
and they had DeAndre Jordan doing it a lot.
Drop. In the drop.
And I went to them, I was like, yo, man, why the fuck
they ain't up on the screen?
Like, why are we not be on like yo, man, why the fuck they end up on the screen? Wow, like why are we not playing like this be like, hmm?
I don't know if they can do it right now that yeah, well make them do it
I don't know if they can do it. I don't know if we can do it. Yeah
I don't think they dare. Yeah, just that like make them do it right and why?
Why teams on down pickin rolls no more man on the side?
Why put the fun aside? I don't know what a pop bag I would what in a
strong side corner field ice with the third guy
In the strong side corner
They run a side pick and roll and you either gonna switch it or try to go do something crazy
Dude, I'll be sitting there like dude. Let's keep him on the side. You got three defenders
I mean, they use that they use the snake screen on the side and I think that's why they stopped
When they I said you got somebody feel that they can come up high
Yes that come up high and if he do get the middle to the guy to be guarding the corner, you take him and I go to the...
Yes.
Dude, I be sitting there like...
Oh, they're going to pop.
Yeah, okay.
So what?
How many bigs is shooting it now?
But they stopped that with Draymond
because they used to ice it on Steph.
They used to ice Steph and pop it to Draymond,
but Draymond put it in the perspective
where he can be the facilitator,
and they didn't want that facilitation to happen
because he could get Klay open. He could
do the lob.
Stunt him the fuck back. Right!
So he recovered!
Man, dude,
Draymond, either he was going to be a hell of a
pull-up, one-dribble guy,
or he was going to be a hell of a three-point
shooter if I'm guarding him. One or the other.
He's not going to be able to keep out here
throwing lob, dribble, hand out. Dude, I'm
going to stunt him back. We're going to, hey,
everybody stay home, man. It's effort, though.
Think about it. If you're stunting and getting back, that guy
who's showing or whatever he's doing in the pick
row, got to get back into the play. And then we
put in certain schemes. Listen, anytime he
in action with number 30,
we trapping 30.
Even on the ice, like
somebody like
San Antonio Spurs, right?
When you got to a certain point on the side,
it was automatically the ice.
And what's so funny is they got back to the pop guy
because the person that was icing was the weak side big.
Yeah.
So the weak side big automatically came over.
So he'll pretend he's in the ice
and he'll get back
and we'll go
and then it's like,
oh, oh, god damn it.
And then I can't get to the lane
because this big is here.
Yep.
So,
but hence why,
hence why all the rookie centers
made all defense
came from the same team.
Because it pushed them to that guy,
and all that guy had to do was protect the basket.
And you're saying with the San Antonio,
Tim used to always shoot that little janky-ass free throw line jumper.
No, we're talking about on their defense.
Oh, on their defense.
On their defense, yeah.
So even the offense, when we used to ice Tony Parker on the side.
And for the people who don't know what ice is
Is when you're on the side pick and roll and you push the defense towards the sideline and the baseline
You're pushing them all the way on the side
So they don't have an opportunity to come to the middle of the floor
And when you stop that they have to throw back to the middle guy, which is probably the trail and big
Power forward or the center usually the center because center because he's out of the post area
for right now.
Guys make shots now, absolutely.
Some bigs make shots now, yes.
But the masses, you don't scheme it for game to game.
You play every game the same.
Same, yep.
If I'm the Dallas, Dallas has two nuns shooting big
To two nuns shooting big they're not shooting the three
Don't give fuck if the shot clock was on zero
One they're not shooting it
If Kyrie Irving and Luka dungeons in a pit side pick and roll
Anyway
What you have on the floor? floor, down it, ice it,
blue it, fight, whatever call you want to name it.
Get closer to him, make him throw it to him.
If he catches it in the pocket,
if Lively catches it in the pocket, great.
If Gaffer catches it, cool.
They're not shooting three,
they're not shooting 15-footers. Neither one of them. 16, 17-footers, they're not shooting 15-footers.
Neither one of them.
16, 17-footers, they're not shooting from that
three-point line, and they're not shooting unless it's around
the rim.
They shouldn't still be...
Timberwolves shouldn't be in a drop
at all.
If we look at that scheme, though, let's look at that scheme
with the corner field. Drop coverage,
corner field, coverage corner field pocket
pass it's a two-on-one on the weak side well you got d jones jr in the corner and you got pj
washington on the wing right so if kairi's in the corner field luke is in the pick and roll with
lively you drop past the lively he's got got the lob option the G Jones jr
But then PJ's wide open for shots and the scramble for that so lively is throwing a lob to someone. Yeah
It's like Shaq throwing a lob to Robert over here. Okay
Let's change the actual screener then D Jones jr. Is the screener and then I just. Jones Jr. is the screener.
Then I just switch that.
Lively is in the dunker.
You have to scheme it for player to player.
Yeah.
Like, God, you can't play every possession
and every guy in the pick and roll the same.
You got to have...
See, this is where IQ comes into play at, right?
I know I got to play Gilbert different in the pick and roll than I got to play Rashad. Fact right? I know I got to play Gilbert different in the pick and roll
than I got to play Richie Wilde.
Or I know I got to play AI different in the pick and roll
than I got to play Eric Snow.
Or I know it's different and I got to play Rip Hamilton
in the pick and roll than Chauncey Biller.
If Tayshia and Prince is helping the ball in the pick and roll,
I know what I got to do if he's in the pick and roll with Ben Wallace.
I know how I got to play that because I'm, right?
This is an IQ question to play, right?
So I'm playing everybody there because there's a different scheme
and a different way you're playing it.
I'm not, if they run a cross screen for Ben Wallace,
I'm not playing my normal defense to beat him to the spot.
Yeah, you could delay a little bit.
I'm going to go under the screen and please hope they throw it.
Yeah, under the screen, clog up the middle. Because this could delay a little bit. I'm gonna go under the screen and please hoping they Know that and I don't think these dudes have that
That IQ to be able to each possession each guy is different each players different each we guarding this guy this way
We playing this guy to come up. We're gonna guard the pick and roll this different. We're gonna down him
We're gonna show yes, bro. And under on him. We're going to hedge
on him. He and the dog,
they don't have the capacity to do all that.
And I think that's the problem.
It's like they're trying to simplify
the game so it's easier to
do. That's not how
it works. There's a lot of motherfucking dummies out there.
They made it younger. Think about it. They made the league
younger. And that's why I say the college
thing made sense because you learned how to calculate in real time schemes, scouting report, like who could do what, what we're doing on this.
We got three different coverages for one guy.
We didn't just have one scheme for you.
You did too much shit.
We're like, bro, he got so many different options in this offense.
We cannot guard him the same way on every
option. When he gets it on the side,
we're going to have to ice him because
no, no, we can't ice him. We got
to send him over because Antoine is a pick and pop guy.
If we ice him, we full rotate
him at least. He comes up
the middle, we got to play it differently.
They're not coaching. They're not coaching.
Then you're playing it different if I'm off the floor, right?
If I'm off the floor, you're not playing the guy the same. You're playing it different if I'm off the floor, right? If I'm off the floor, you're not playing the guy the same.
You're playing it different if I'm on the floor.
You're playing the scheme different.
Like, it's, you know how, and this day and age,
you come up with a game plan,
and it's the universal game plan for the room.
Right.
Like, no, you don't, it doesn't work,
because everybody's skill set is different.
Everybody's thought process, So you can't.
I wonder what the scouting reports look like to be honest.
That's what I was thinking the same day.
I was like, man, who can I call to get a scouting report? I want to see that shit.
What does that shit look like?
I can get you one.
I want to see a scouting report, man.
I'm pretty sure it's digital.
I'm pretty sure it's email now more text message
The book cuz you gotta get the reason I need the book cuz I got a look at the page you see this motherfucker
Swipe that I want to see is there a wrinkle?
There's a water spot on this shit because if it looked like I looked in college when I return my books, then he's just brand new
They know if you look
If you went in
Like you're used to doing your thing, you know, which a little you know, keep it all the little edge that you
Like it's just going like you counting the miles you ain't on it. Yeah
I need to see because obviously y'all ain't looking at these shits. I'm sitting there just... Same with the plays.
The scrolls...
Motherfuckers don't be knowing the plays.
That's why they simplify plays to just be pick and roll.
We used to have actual plays where you got to scheme these plays.
We ain't just doing this because this is a ducking in right here.
It's a pin down on the weak side.
It's a curl right here.
None of that shit happens, bro.
So we asked the chat who wins this series we got over
7 000 voters in 62 say the math there with you kenya damn but y'all talking about schemes uh
all falls into coaching so let's talk a little bit about some coaching situations going on around
the league uh lakers had two players make the all nba team but they are still without a head coach
firing darvin ham after the team finished seventh in the West and got booted in the first round of the playoffs.
So the team is conducting interviews right now, and J.J. Redick appears to be one of the leading candidates.
So according to The Athletic, Jovan Buha and Shams, the Lakers see Redick as a Pat Riley-like coaching prospect
who could both help the franchise in the short term and lead it for years.
So Gil and Rashad, you've previously said you think J.J. would make a great NBA head coach
with his strong basketball mind
and ability to connect with players.
Rashad, you said, quote,
niggas respect J.J.
But not all NBA head coaching jobs are the same.
Lakers are easily one of the toughest
being in a major market,
tons of media scrutiny,
everything that comes with that.
So can J.J. Redick handle the pressure that comes with that so can jj reddick handle
the pressure that comes with coaching the lakers especially as a first-time head coach with no
previous nba coaching experience has he coached anything no au high school girls game yeah he
might have coached some kids games i don't know but as i said i don't know. As I said, I don't know. I mean, listen.
They respect him.
His resources, I'm pretty sure Shane Battier, I'm pretty sure Coach K,
I'm pretty sure if he gets the job, he's going to be protected with great minds around him. So him himself,
I don't know how many coaches
by themselves are great
because there's a staff, right?
So depending on what his staff looks like,
depending on, you know,
what he's going to do,
but he has LeBron James
and Anthony Davis on the team, right?
They go out and get a nice free agent.
They come back and win 72 and 10.
We can't say, oh, JJ's a and get a nice free agent. They come back and win 72-10. Ah, we can't say,
oh, JJ's a hell of a coach.
Yeah, the fucking nigga.
Yeah, and I'm talking more so, not even from the coaching aspect.
You guys say he's a great basketball mind, but all the other stuff that comes with being
this particular team's coach. You're Hornets head coach,
Cavs head coach. You know,
JB Bickerson got fired today, too, but
you're Cavs head coach. Listen, listen, they lose
a game, fuck him. But it's different, right?
It's a different level of pressure. Who gets blamed for all
Laker losses?
LeBron James. It rotates. Right? So it don't matter
who the coach is. We're going to give it to whoever
we're going to give it to. You know, we got to have
Twinkle Toes not playing the way he needs to be
playing, right?
Bambi Lez, Anthony Davis.
If he's not playing well, we're going to give it to Anthony Davis.
Right? If LeBron plays well, Anthony Davis plays well not playing well, we're going to give it to Andy Davis. If LeBron plays well, Andy Davis plays well and we lost,
we're going to give it to the coach.
We're going to find out who to blame on this motherfucker.
That's what we do.
Somebody's getting that blood.
Somebody's going to get the hammer.
Whoever gets the job, I just want to see the staff that they build.
That's where I come in at.
I just want to see the staff.
They got to start somewhere, right?
Pat started somewhere, right? Yeah.
Pat started somewhere, right?
When he got the job, he had no experience.
Pat was calling Lakers games, became an assistant.
He was an assistant coach first.
For like one year, maybe.
Okay, that's more.
On a championship team.
So when has he worked out?
Sposter, right?
He was in the building already.
Right, he was a video guy.
Years.
But years, though, was in the building.
So what JJ's doing on the sideline for ESPN, what is that?
The dozen. Same thing they're doing on the line, just talking.
Same thing we're doing in Joe's arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
And we know collectively, we know if we were able to get a team and really put our knowledge behind the team, we can put him in the right path.
I think JJ, what they're trying to give him credit for without having experience is trying
to elevate him so that we don't have an expectation for him.
But I think for the most part, you give him an opportunity with the respect the players
have for him, the respect the league has for him.
It's going to be tough for him to fail
unless the players just give up on him.
What players?
When you say players, you got to respect who?
Which players?
Just respect the fact that he's played 16 years in the league.
Just his resume.
Like Adrian Griffin,
he played a certain amount in the league,
and he was an assistant coach,
and then he still went in there,
and they didn't respect him,
and they got his ass up out of there. Yeah was the wrong team exactly so but jj is like it
could be it could be a good team for him but that's but that's my question for you with jj
is this where the guy with no experiences well when has it worked out
former player you can say stever, but that Warriors squad was already...
Jason Kidd.
He had experience.
He had experience.
Jason Kidd.
He was an assistant coach.
Jay Kidd.
I was coming from the front office with the Suns.
I'm just saying.
Jay Kidd in Milwaukee.
So he was never in San Antonio?
Let me double check.
Steve Kerr was never in San Antonio?
Let me double check.
Darryl Fisher in New York.
You see how that worked out?
No, so Ward was his first
coaching job.
So I think it was
his son's front office before.
But he was in the building.
Went to TV
and then went from TV.
So he was in the building,
the son's building
as GM, right?
Yeah.
Some experiences
within the building, right?
Other than that,
when has it worked out?
Doc Rivers? It only... I wait it only works out listen the only people who really get to JK on job number three
FYI it's like where did I do, Ty Lue. Where did Ty Lue go? Failure. Oh, Ty Lue was assistant coach, right?
Yeah, three Hall of Famers, and it was a failure.
Are we expecting the Lakers to...
Steve Nash, same thing.
But...
But the story when you got Lenny Wilkins, I think Don Nelson.
But the problem is, it's always, what kind of team are you starting with?
Right?
He's, like, whoever gets the job, you have an advantage.
Because you have LeBron James and Anthony Davis on your team.
You're not going to the Detroit.
You're not going to one of these mediocre teams that has no expectations
and you have to try to build them to greatness.
You're inherited.
I hear you, J.K. had Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett.
They're old as fuck.
Is your playing experience not experience? They old to LeBron? Not this old. No, no, J.K. had Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. They're old as fuck. Is your playing experience not experience?
They older than LeBron?
Not this old.
No, no, no.
But were they these two old?
They're not 26.
You know I know what you mean.
Is playing experience not experience?
No.
No?
No.
The game is different, man.
When people ask me...
They didn't really play. They. Darvin Hale played. AJ Griffin played.
They didn't really play.
I'm saying they played.
They played, but not Rodley played.
But what I'm saying is, look.
They was a role player.
How we look at the game is, right, we're looking at it like this.
We're looking at it 2K view.
They didn't really want a role player, right?
We look at it 2K view, right?
That's our play.
As players, we're looking at it 2K view, right?
They're looking at broadcast.
They're looking at broadcast. They're looking at broadcast.
So their vision of the game is different.
So for me to say, all right, I'm going to turn to this angle and then, you know, coach it.
There's some shit I can't see.
Like me thinking, hey, why you didn't do that?
I got to fuck around.
The sideline, dude.
He's been broadcasting on the side with ESPN.
That's the broadcast view. That's the side of ESPN. That's what I'm saying. That's the broadcast view.
That's this vision.
That's the side of the floor.
That's TV vision like this.
That's the side of the floor, y'all.
But what I'm saying is you got this.
There's more than coaching.
So it's like if you do this.
Yep.
Is it like you got to be like.
That's not the same.
No, what I'm saying.
That's not the same.
What I'm saying is even for Jason kid.
Right. And I talked to Jason and he said the difference is that he's the one who told me I'm looking at it from this way.
And that angle is a little different. Right. And so things I think is open.
It probably is not. So I got to trust this guy's vision to see it.
And then I got to know the subbing. I got to trust this guy's vision to see it and then I got a note of subbing
I got to understand players mood
I have an advantage because how I played the game, but I still got to understand it from a different look
I'm playing the game 40 something minutes
Now I'm watching the game for 40 something minutes. Like I'm a bench player now. I'm looking at mannerisms
That's the thing that the advantage I have as Kidd is now that I'm seeing it from this
horizontal view,
it's a new look. It's a new look, right?
So my adjustment isn't that I don't
know what it looks like
going the other way. I know exactly
what he's seeing because I've seen it.
I'm Jason Kidd. I've seen
what you're seeing, but I'm looking
at it over here now where I'm like,
okay, I may not see what he sees seeing but I'm looking at it over here now where I'm like, okay different
I may not see what he sees but I know
What he's looking at if I know what he's looking at. No, no, no, let me tell you when it was effective though
I hear you. Let me tell you when it was effective
When he got to Milwaukee, we had a bunch of young guys. He can go out there and tell me exactly what to do
don't think do what I say and
the shit worked right but you know when you know LeBron go come out of jail I really do like this you know when
players got better you know when you know when players started that look like
coaches when they has got hurt and they sitting on the bench for the first time.
They get to see the shit.
And they get to see it differently.
Now they looking at their teammates
and you start looking around like,
hey, yo, yo, fucking focus.
Like, you know, you start,
now you start looking
at the game different.
Even though when your ass
is coming out,
you ain't see shit he talking about.
You over there drinking the water,
talking to the blah, blah, blah.
You don't see right now.
Now you get to sit there
and see it and,
man, that's why you don't get in the fucking game, dog.
Over here, talking the whole goddamn time.
Right?
And you start listening to conversations, hearing it.
When you become a...
When niggas is talking about it and thinking about it.
That's your thought process.
As a game, you didn't see...
When you're playing, you don't know what the fuck these dudes is talking about.
I'm not on the bench longer.
I'm off the bench one minute, two minutes.
Now I'm sitting here 48 minutes listening to niggas talk about everything but basketball.
Everything but the game.
Man, who girl is that up there, man?
This and this and that.
And then Coach just subbed your ass in.
Oh, hell no.
He done changed the pick and roll coverage, nigga.
You ain't got a clue.
Clue.
Because you ain't been in no time out
Sitting there drinking water and shit talking playing or the horn and shit and not a coach and then the coach puts your ass in The game and you see it now a lot
You didn't miss this is the shit. I wonder why this motherfucker can't score this the shit
He been talking about all goddamn game. That's the difference between a guy like Calvin Booth
Who when I play with him in Minnesota good dude wasn't one of the guys that was talking like this like we were we were one
of the guys like he's exempt yeah but i was one of those guys too i was one of the guys on the
bench where i'm like all right look how they playing the down screen look how they playing
the pick and roll look how they playing the side i'm not even though i can hear all the shit that
you're saying that you you you can listen to but it's like if I want to get in the game, I got to be ready for the rotation.
I got to be ready for the adjustment.
I'm not going to be in the back of the timeout.
I'm going to be up there listening to what Coach is saying because when he subbed me in, I got to be ready for the adjustment.
So I'm looking at JJ as a guy that was like that when he wasn't in the game.
He wasn't participating in the bullshit conversation.
No work-related conversation.
None of that. He was over there
like, oh, okay, I see.
They played me like this, but they played
Terrence, what's the dude, Ross,
Quentin Ross.
Quentin Ross, back when he was the Clippers.
They're like, oh, they're playing
Quentin Ross like this.
Quentin Richardson?
Number 13. The guy who couldn't shoot.
So you look at the two differences, you're like, oh, JJ knows that when they play him,
they play him, they play him different than they play this.
So it's like when you put JJ in a Lakers situation where there's no, I don't think there will
be any pressure for him.
Lakers are.
For him.
Lakers, bro.
Hey man, just because you drove on a whole bunch of planes don't mean you're a good pilot.
How much pressure could the Lakers really put on a coach
if you actually hired Darvin Hamm?
Because you've got to be successful after this now.
But you picked Darvin Hamm out of all the coaches to pick from.
You couldn't have been placing pressure on him
because he's not a coach where you can come in and say,
we're expecting you to win.
But he got fired.
We wasn't expecting you to win. We wasn't expecting you to win.
We wasn't expecting you to win here.
Second year knocked out the first time.
Frank Vogel, when he got there.
He won championship.
He got fired.
Dirty first.
But that's what I'm saying.
You got us one.
But I'm saying the expectation when you put that jersey on you, we are expected.
I don't give a fuck.
You expected to win.
We know LeBron James is coaching the team, but we don't give a fuck because we're blaming you. We are expected. I don't give a fuck. You're expected to win. We know LeBron James is
coaching the team, but we don't give a fuck
because we're blaming you.
Especially in this situation. So what would be
considered a championship caliber
coach right now?
We had a guy sitting on the couch. I'd like to see him get another
shot. Mark Jackson. I'd like to see him get
another shot. Championship caliber?
We don't know. He's respect. He'll be more
respect. We know Frank Vogel was championship. He'll be more respect. We don't know who's he's respect he'll be more respect. We know Frank Volga was championship
He'll be Morris. We don't know who's the champion ready to get a little has boo hosers. We don't know hosers a championship coach
Right, but that's what they're feeling
But that's I'm saying like it depending on what the free agency market you can that's the whoever gets this job
One you you're borderline a playoff team, just with the roster you have.
Upstairs, they get a couple pieces.
Shit, you're damn near a playoff team and probably a contender.
So the job, whoever gets the job is on a curve anyway because you have an advantage.
You have an advantage because who was on your team, right?
Who's on your team, you have an advantage.
Whoever gets the Cleveland job, right?
Cleveland.
Yeah, fucking playoff team.
Yeah, like you said.
Right, right. So you automatically start your career off with at least 40 fucking wins.
That sounds like a great job to me versus I got a team that won nine games last year.
God damn it, I'm at 12.
I start my career off in the negative.
That is a pretty appropriate value.
Think about how Luke Wong started his career off, right?
That's fucking a great resume to start off your career
versus you get a bottom-feeding team as a job.
You know y'all won nine games last year.
15 is great.
Think about your record, though.
God damn it, I'm not Hall of Famer.
God damn it, I'm not in the Hall of Famer.
You already started off in the hole.
First three in, first three in.
You got 20 combined wins.
That's a great position for J.J. then, right?
No.
To be with this Lakers squad?
If it was a good situation for Luke Walton to come in and get a team that's already moving over the curve,
J.J. could fit right in there and not lose.
I don't know, but...
And not lose a beat.
Listen, a job is a job. You got to start somewhere. Goddamn it, I guess I'd rather
start with the purple and gold. Why not?
No, if you got to start... Hell yeah.
I'd be in that motherfucker cheering, too. I'd be a fan.
What?
No, if you got to start somewhere, why not?
Why not?
But I just think that we're trying to get over it. Like, that's the difference in the close game situation.
He ain't never had the board in his hand.
Who?
Yeah, JJ.
But we saw what was being drawn on that board.
That's the only problem.
That'd be the only problem with some of the coaches.
Like, there's just certain situations you just, you've never been in.
He probably hit a game.
His first dunk, I was on the team with him.
I think I missed it.
I missed the shot where he got the dunk on.
You don't have to run career dunks, so that's it.
I missed the shot.
He got the rebound and dunked it, baseline.
But there is situational stuff that he'll probably draw up
and realize you have to have experience in certain situations to put,
but for the most part,
I'm pretty sure,
listen, I'm not worried about him.
I'm, what is going to be his staff?
That's all I really care about.
I want to see his,
because everybody got fired.
So I want to see who the trainers are,
who is going to be behind that bench,
who's the medicals.
I need to know who's going to be hired.
And I can tell you
if you're going to be successful or not.
So we asked a chat, can JJ handle coaching in LA?
52% said yes.
Nearly 3,000 voters. So according
to reports, LeBron doesn't want to be involved in the Lakers
coaching search, but he may
not be talking about the Lakers head coaching job, but he
is talking about WNBA number one overall pick
Kaitlin Clark during a recent episode
of his Mind the Game podcast with Reddick.
LeBron had this to say about the hate
that Clark is getting.
Don't get it twisted. Don't get it fucked up.
Caitlyn Clark is the reason
why a lot of great things is going to happen
for the WNBA.
But for her individually, I don't think
she should get involved on nothing that's being said.
Just go have fun.
Enjoy.
I'm rude for Caitlyn because i've been in that seat
before i've walked that road before i hope they i hope she kills i hope alia boston does amazing
you know i hope they do great and i'm just kind of in this mode right now because i'm getting the
same you know thing from watching my son who's a 19 year old kind of getting a lot of animosity and hatred towards him when he's just
a kid trying to live out his dream you know there's a very small number of men and women
that actually get to live out their dream of playing the professional sport and we have grown
ass men and women out here doing whatever they can to try to make sure that does not happen
that is the weirdest thing in the world but it is what it is and i'm glad that caitlin
has a great head on her shoulder so fever oh and five this season clark's averaging nearly 18 points
per game and she joins candace parker and sabrina nescu as the only rookies with 85 plus points 25
plus assist 20 plus rebounds in their first five career games.
She's also played in front of sold out crowds in all five of those regular season games.
And since the draft in April, revenue from the WNBA's online stores up more than 2,000
percent, already surpassing total sales for the entire 2023 season.
So when you hear what LeBron is saying, what's your guys' reaction to just,
as for Kaylin tuning out the hate,
but also the value that she's going to bring to this WNBA?
You said the online store matched last year only in five games?
Since April, they've already surpassed the 2023 sales.
A 2,000% increase.
I don't know if the WNBA girls got internet.
I would assume that internet is widely available.
All they have to do is just look.
Just look.
With her in the league, five games into it, we sold more merch than us.
All of last year.
In five games.
So therefore, no matter how we feel about the attention she's getting, our shit is being sold.
People are watching us now, right?
And I can tell you right now, most of these games,
I don't even know where to find somebody.
It's like they all spread around.
It's like finding where's Waldo in some of these places.
Like one game is on Tubi, one game is on the Internet,
one game is TNT.
But I'm serious.
Tubi, a great platform.
I'm just saying, no.
Enjoyed by many.
But I'm just saying,
all the games are so spread out,
it's like, yo, what?
I didn't, we didn't,
just be honest,
we didn't realize
it was so technically unprofessional
where some of these games are.
So the fact that
she's making the league more popular for the masses,
it's benefiting you guys.
Like, you know, yesterday was it Lloyd who had 34?
Everyone's sold out arena seen that, right?
So the girls who are actually playing, we get to see you now.
So, yeah, so I know, hey, she can't sign every goddamn deal.
So that means it has a trickle-down effect, right?
Every loaf of bread she gets.
Yeah, slices.
Some slices is coming off, right?
Yeah.
Someone has to get that slice before there was no loaf.
There was crumbs.
Loafs are coming now.
Absolutely. Good point.
You can hate the girl all you want, but she's putting money in your pocket.
And if you don't understand that, and y'all sitting here trying to hurt her, I can tell
you what's going to happen.
Them games, she started missing.
She gets hurt, and they say, hey, Caitlyn's out for the year.
I know one thing that's going to happen.
Ticket sales.
Them ticket sales is gone.
Revenue, ticket sales, everything going to decline.
So,
be excited.
Like you remember
when Larry Bird and Magic Johnson
seemed like they were enemies to the world?
When Magic Johnson got a shoe deal, who was the first
person to call? Hey, Larry, come and do the commercial with me.
We can do...
He friended
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. They were friends no matter what y'all was thinking out there.
They was friends because they know they needed each other.
Yeah, shit.
Everybody color, shit, everybody's favorite color ain't green.
Some of y'all people like purple.
There's gold in y'all life, shit.
Y'all put these shoes together to make y'all pick.
Y'all want them black and green or these gold and purple, hey?
I know this is it. Purple and gold, I know one side that won't be buying my shoes that side. Hey
Want to be friends? Yes, let's make some colors in yours. Now that whole side now. We just doubled our market. Absolutely
No, yeah, she's definitely
Helping in a major way putting light
To your point definitely bringing los to the party now.
Before, it was them sprinkling in there,
and it was only certain people that was benefiting from it.
Yeah, there's a lot more now, man.
There's a lot of successful women in places that will reach out.
Business women.
Business women. Successful business women that want reach out. Yeah. Businesswomen. Businesswomen.
Successful businesswomen
that will want to deal with...
Yeah, so, in these cities
that they probably wouldn't have before.
So, no, it's a good thing, man.
No, it's a...
What happens...
It's a very good thing.
What happens
when a woman's territory is threatened?
She would cut her nose off
to the spider face.
It would tear down that motherfucker.
You in my space?
Mm-hmm.
Get the fuck up out of here.
I ain't used to this.
That's all we're seeing.
It's a threat to the territory, and it's new,
and it ain't never been seen before.
So they got to adjust to her coming in
and doing what she's doing for the league,
and it's going to take some time.
Because you think about it, everyone that was getting attention
now getting the same attention.
But I would disagree and say they're getting more attention.
More now.
They're not focused on them.
What I'm saying is I was number one, right, getting all the attention,
but the attention's right here. Now I'm number three, right? Getting all the attention, but the attention's right here.
Now I'm number three, but my attention's here.
That's what they have to look at.
They have to look at...
I made $230,000 last year being an MVP or whatever.
I made...
Nobody's talking about me, but I made $500,000.
Gilbert, what main chick wants to go to the third chick?
That's the problem.
That's society.
I'm just asking.
I want you to clear it up because you know it like I know it.
You know, too.
What main chick wants to move to number three?
Our main chick making $100,000.
I'm the third chick making half a million.
Is it the bag or is it the attention?
I was the main. I was in the front.
I was the one going to Nobu.
I was the one. But you wasn't going to Nobu.
You can call it whatever you want to call it.
It was the main show.
Whatever spot it was, I was the one
he was opening the door for.
Now he's telling me to get the fuck out in the back.
You're in the back seat, baby. Get your ass out.
What's up? We going in.
But there's a problem.
He was in the front seat of a Honda. Now your ass is damn near in the Mayseat, baby. Get your ass out. What's up? We going in. But there's a problem. Front seat of a Honda. Yeah, yeah.
He was in the front seat of a Honda.
Now your ass damn near in the Maybach right now.
And if you play your cards right, you might be in the passenger seat of a Bugatti.
Right?
You have to let this.
It's a process.
It's a process.
But I'm saying this.
You have to sometimes sit back and say, you know what?
This might be the person that needs to drive
the car now.
When I was driving
it,
I was cool with it.
I wasn't getting as many miles
as I could have.
It seems like everybody wants to see her drive.
Let her drive. Let her drive.
It's okay.
I'm still the fucking MVP. I'm still the runner-up. I'm still the fucking MVP. I'm still the runner
up. I'm still the defensive player. I'm still
these people. Now the whole world
gets to see my talent.
That's all this is. Sometimes you
just got to sit back. Because ticket sales
The ticket sales is up.
Think about it.
When
when she plays Aces
she's coming soon.
Who?
Be all right.
Who gonna dominate the game?
In a sold-out arena.
Asia Wilson.
Here we go.
When that motherfucker about to be sold out,
we gonna be on TNT?
I know who they...
They might be coming to see her,
but I know who they gonna leave saying,
God damn, that motherfucker over there.
Who the fuck is that over...
She's badder than the motherfucker right there.
That's all that's going to happen.
Question for you, Gil.
We talked about this with Wimby.
You thought that the league
should have gave them
an easier, more favorable
schedule to start
so we could go out there
and cook and kind of help
the brand of value.
When looking at Kaylin,
her first four games
were against the Sun
and the Liberty,
two of the toughest teams
in the Eastern Conference.
Fever are currently 0-5 right now,
but the Liberty set a
ticket revenue record
$2 million in their home game in New York.
So should the League have given...
They would do that anyway. They'd have got them second best team
in the... But I'm saying early
on in the season. So should the League have given
the Fever an easier schedule to start, or
does it make sense to leverage Clark to showcase
the premier teams and talent in the league?
Schedule's made before the draft.
Yeah, that's the problem. Schedule's made before the draft. Yeah, that's the problem.
Schedule's made before the draft.
But you, I'm just saying, you knew the fever.
If you knew she was going to the fever,
what I'm saying is why would you,
my thing was why would you place her against the hardest teams knowing that the team itself sucked?
Yeah.
Then it wasn't a good team.
So her being on there, she was still going to get blown out.
This team, both teams she played twice was second and third in the WNBA.
One was runner-up to the champions, right?
Yeah.
So you're playing against the elite.
What do you think is going to happen?
They're going to get blown out by 20.
What does that say?
Like, with her off the team, they lose by fucking 40.
With her on the team, they lose by 20.
It's still not a very good look.
Nobody was talking about, you know, oh, damn, they lost.
They're just saying, oh, she played horrible.
She's playing against damn near two best defenders.
But the question for you, though, so easier schedule or leverage her to showcase all the other premier talent and teams in the league,
knowing that the Fever probably aren't going to win those games anyway?
Okay.
If they played the Sparks, it's sold out, right?
It's close to a sellout at this point.
It's going to be a sold out.
What I'm saying is she played them the first game.
They're going to get the $2 million.
They probably get a win.
They play this team.
That's going to be sold out.
They're probably going to win.
And she starts 5-0.
What happens when she plays those top teams anyway?
That was the point I was making.
Boom!
I was going to make that point.
But I see what point you're making.
I just see it both ways.
He's saying basically like the value of showcasing the talent of the two best teams early on,
allowing her to whatever struggle or win or lose, you're showcasing more than just her.
But then I see what you're saying with
if she starts 5-0, it's the
story for her. It's like Deion and Colorado,
right? Yeah. It's more
for the league, too, but it's still more
spotlight on her. Think about the spotlight that was on Deion.
Everybody benefits.
Everybody benefits. Because it's benefiting
either way. Not right now,
because it benefits there. Then
when you play the tougher teams and they're 3-0 what happened when they played oregon they got swag right but
think about the buzz that went between that those two yeah yeah what if they play now what if they
played oregon and them the first and they start off yeah now those bottom teams they're beating
on don't even matter because nobody's showing up right so you play the easier schedule let them beat on a team let her average damn near 30 everybody oh shit she's got it when
she plays against the Sabrina it is unreal you make your bread either way
you make it more bread on on going this way eat here eat here versus here now
when she's playing against these bottom teams that she's 0 and 6 this team 0 and
3 now you're trickling.
You actually lose.
You actually lose.
You lose in a second.
The way you guys did it.
They lost because if she starts 5-0.
Still eating.
So you talk about Sparks, Lex Brown, 20-piece player of the game.
The Fever in town Friday.
The folks at Underdog Fantasy have splurge on us.
Gil's Arena will be at the Fever-Sparks game at Staples Center. We're not calling it crypto.com arena on Friday
I'm dead baby ten feet on the wood
If you can make it past security to the section that we're gonna be in come say hello
You may see one or two of us or more of us getting escorted out of the game for being too turnt up
Go in there to support Lexi Brown. Hey, Lex, I'm going to be drunk off the rip.
Close the bars after the first quarter.
You got to make a shirt.
Lexi Red.
Lexi Red.
Lexi Red.
Let me go ahead and make that shirt.
We will be in the building supporting Lexi.
Those embarrassing family members.
She's going to sit there like, aw.
Lexi already said
she's not worried
about us being at the game.
But I don't think Lexi
has seen Gil
at a basketball game
before.
I'm going to put on
regular shoes.
I'll put on regular shoes.
No sandals?
Yeah, she said
just no sandals.
All right.
What's wrong with the sandals?
We'll be doing pick-ups as well.
So shout-out to Underdog Fantasy
for making that happen.
Now let's move on to Mostly Fans.
Yeah, let's go.
I got to go in there.
Yeah.
I already know.
King like, shit, I got to go get a haircut.
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Thank you again to Underdog Fantasy.
Cutting the checks, splurging.
Lexi said bring your ass, and we are bringing our ass to the Sparks gang.
Let's get it.
So first question is a email question.
Email?
Yes.
Underdog user DimTunken99.
You have to give up either alcohol or warm, hot showers and baths for the rest of your life
So you either give up alcohol you give up warm hot showers for the rest of your life. Which are you giving it?
No, I'll go ever I don't fuck my drink
Should I be fake drinking this water? You can't tell you cold shower. No it invigorates you in the morning
Would you give up alcohol or?
a cold or a warm shower for the rest of your life?
I'd give up alcohol.
Warm showers are essential.
All right.
Next.
Come on.
That wasn't even a good one.
I wrote the questions.
I'm just here to conduit.
I was bored on that one. Who let that question go? a good one. I wrote the question. I'm just here to counter it.
You was bored on that one.
Who let that question go? You was bored.
Y'all should have tweaked it, made it something.
It's fucking easy.
You got to ask an alcoholic.
Yeah, that was an alcoholic.
You got to ask somebody who's an alcoholic.
If you get drunk, you can just take the cold shower
and it'll feel like a hot shower.
No, it won't.
No, no.
A cold shower is going to be a cold shower.
You ever took a cold shower in front of your girl?
She get to sniggling and giggling.
Yeah, that means there was some shrinkage going on.
No, no, you need warmth.
You bet all time.
Some of us are shrink proof.
You better not get to giggling and shit.
Some of us are shrink proof. As soon as that cold hit that shower, you lose about two inches. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that. You bet that.
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You bet that. You ain't got two inches to lose. That's part of this conversation. Y'all got it.
I'm sorry.
You ain't got the inches.
I'm sorry.
You can have that conversation with Gil, man.
All right, next question from Underdog User, 14Flat.
After game three of the Western Conference Final Sunday,
predict what the Mavs-Wolves series will be at.
So after game three, what will the Mavs-Wolves series be at?
We don't know.
That's fine.
They're asking you to predict, King.
All right, 2-1. Who one who oh shit. I was just
Almost non-cooperative unparticipating is
to one give me
Minnesota to one
So we'll to one
Mr. Cemetery Larry.
I'll take that.
2-1.
All right.
It came.
2-0 Dallas.
3-0 Dallas.
Oh, wow.
Sweep territory.
All right.
Well, we will find out in the near future.
And again, we will be at the Sparks Fever Game Friday at Staples Center.
Pull up.
Shout out to all the bacon wrap vendors.
You think that's a good picture for a t-shirt?
Sexy red on there?
Mm-hmm.
Are you going to put a sexy red?
Put a sexy red on a t-shirt.
Dan, if we make it through the whole game, that would be inspiring.
Somebody's getting escorted out of their premises or at least saying.
Why you keep looking at me?
Because you.
God, I heard you.
I keep looking at you.
You almost get ejected from high school basketball games, which is a sight to behold. Why are you looking at me good cuz you gotta hurt you keep looking at you
You almost get ejected from high school basketball games, which is
Almost never been no I said I'm almost I never been almost Oh
Can you very long I don't let them take you out. I've never
Maybe skitter key like no, I'll be saying something and be like, oh, hey, Mr. Martin.
Hey, Mr. Martin.
They hear the voice. That ain't about me.
I ain't gonna embarrass the babies.
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