Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To LeBron's 40k Points & The Celtics Smackdown

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To LeBron James' 40k Points & The Boston Celtics Blowout of the Golden State Warriors as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down an historic weekend in the NBA, discussing how LeBron James & Caitlin Clark achieved basketball greatness with their scoring abilities and how Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and the Boston Celtics OFFICIALLY cemented their place at the top of the NBA. They also speak on the incredible matchup between rookie phenoms Chet Holmgren & Victor Wembanyama, before reacting to Andre Iguodala's recent take that Kyrie Irving is more feared on the court than Steph Curry. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:35 Mr B Inducted Into Oak Hill HOF 0:05:41 LeBron James Hits 40,000 Points 0:09:56 Advice To Younger Selves 0:26:40 Does The NBA Still Run Through Denver 0:28:55 Caitlin Clark Sets NCAA Scoring Record 0:39:18 Is SGA Still The MVP Favorite? 0:51:10 Breaking Down The Bucks 5 Game Winning Streak 0:52:05 Celtics BEAT DOWN Golden State 0:56:08 Brandon Challenges Gil Over His Euro Take 1:17:44 Wemby DESTROYS Chet & OKC 1:31:42 Is The Traditional Center Extinct? 1:38:42 Wemby's Transition To The NBA 1:40:34 Kyrie Irving Is Scarier Than Steph! 1:56:57 Best NBA Game Winners 2:01:01 Best Handles In The Modern NBA 2:06:11 Brandon on If Iverson Could Average 40 In Today's NBA 2:14:33 Funniest Technical Ever 2:26:45 MostlyFans 2:31:18 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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or the locker room. H is zero. Change, yeah. Welcome back to G's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo! We back. Black History Month's over, unfortunately. But we're going to keep making history here in the arena. We got 29 days out of it. We got the extra one. Yeah, we got an days out of it. We got the extra one.

Yeah, we got an extra one this year. We got the extra one. Happy birthday, Tyrese Halliburton. The rest of the leap year, babies. What's up, Gil? Seeing Elijah out there, 53-piece. He trying, he trying. He doing his thing.

How many assists? One, two, three, four, five. You said one. He did whatever it took to win the game. Hey, got the dub, that's all. That matters. So this is Gil's Arena presented by Honor Dark Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.

We got Brandon Jennings back. You've been all over doing your thing. Been on the Midwest a little bit, East Coast. Been on a mission. We're going to talk about it in a second. And we got Kenya Martin back in the arena with us. What's up Kmart? What's happening?

So before we start the show we got to recognize our very own Mr. B who was inducted into the Oak Hill Hall of Fame this weekend We see the tough crowd jackets. There you go. We see the tough crowd jackets You went in along with Steven Jackson, Jeff McGinnis, Steve Blake, and Quinn Cook. Yeah, Nola Smith also. Nola Smith in the building. We got the Oak Hill All-Americans.

Yeah, Ray John Rondo, KD, they was inducted too. Oh, KD, obviously he's busy. Yeah. Doing some things. So what does it mean to you to be inducted into the Oak Hill Hall of Fame? Man, it means a lot. Just from coming all the way to California,

to the East Coast, my junior year. You know, that's like my first time, well, yeah, my first time on my own. So it just helped me grow up, man. And I think, you know, the people there, the teachers, you know, all the faculty and the staff and the community you know it's just a beautiful thing just to come back and see everybody so it was good man was humbling I'm experience sure you're not at the same teachers and like administrative he was

yeah same teacher same like yeah the community all the fans everybody still there so it was a yeah it was. Like just seeing everybody Are you the only West Coast guy to everyone? No me Marcus Williams. Oh Yeah, yeah, I think he was the first one Because yeah, he left Crenshaw and they went there so yeah Marcus I saw some shit like that come about like how they come about like a statement in 96 that we graduate high school the same you like he from South Texas. Like, he from Port Arthur. So I'm...

Yeah, it's one of them things where... How much? I was like, how much? That's what he was trying to say. No, I mean, I think just... I mean, at that time, you know, I think Steve Smith was just able to get players. You know, a lot of us came from backgrounds where, you know, I think Steve Smith was just able to get players You know, a lot of us came from backgrounds where you know, single-parent mothers or you know situations

This wasn't good back at home. So he would just take you in and you know Trouble was you getting in trouble or Yeah, I mean, yeah, like that's kind of trouble where you were where it could have went left like for me. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I think just me being 16, getting everything I wanted. It was like no father figure, so I was just spoiled, man. So I needed something to change me,

and I needed a different direction, and Oak Hill just helped me lock in. I'm sure we'll congrats again to you, Mr. B. Thank you. Thank you for making that Hall of Fame. So we got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. LeBron made history this weekend becoming the first player to score 40,000 points.

But will anyone be able to come close to taking it from his throne? The Celtics smacked the Warriors by 52 for their NBA record third 50 point blowout win this season. But how much pressure is on Boston to raise a banner this year? And Kaitlyn Clark set the NCAA Division I record for career points, but how will her star power translate to the WNBA? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Do yourself a favor, download the app, use promo code GILL.

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Okay. But we got a lot to get into. But first, we got another king-sized version of Hibachi time. Got the mood lighting ready to go on this lovely Monday appreciate you everybody in the chat for rocking with us today so on Saturday LeBron added another piece of history to his legendary career becoming the first player ever to score 40,000 points LeBron accomplished the feat in the second quarter of the Lakers loss to the Nuggets on the layup over Michael Porter Jr.

We got to play again first and only With the 40,000 family was in the building Turned up and yanked up so March 2nd special day in NBA basketball lore LeBron's cheap, man. LeBron. Oh. If people say, so the rumor of LeBron being cheap, yes.

It's true. Those are, it's out of seats. Good. It's out of seats, man. LeBron. Come on, man. Get on this. Get on this.

Yeah, when you hear them stories about he don't pay for Wi-, man. Get on this thing. Yeah, when you hear them stories about he don't pay for Wi-Fi until he get into the room, okay, that right there is the legacy right there. Had a bulk of the family core sigh when he broke the scoring record. Now, what he got to do for 40,000, 41,000, 42,000? He breaks the record or he sets a new record every game. I'm just going to go out on a limb. Like, why?

Never mind. It's his money. How do rich stay rich? No. Let's be, let's have a real conversation. Like, if he wanted better seats with the legs, you don't think he can go in there and be like, listen, I want them seats for my family.

You don't think they're going to charge him? I, listen, I want them seats for my family. You don't think they gonna want it. They ain't gonna charge him. Oh, whoa. They ain't gonna charge him. Not him. See what happened to Wayne. They be charging, dog. Because most of those seats be bought by somebody already. So.

I ain't saying they got to be floor. But probably the cheapest one, then probably the free ones right there. Floor is the cheapest we can get you. I'm probably the cheapest one then probably the free ones right floor is the freest we can get you I'm witchy it's good I was bamboozled on who the black dude that's in the video the DJ you know no Jared Dudley man like this man oh he was sitting that was sitting next yeah yeah. Yeah, you know, I didn't want to ask no questions, just... Oh, no, no, no. I'm San Diego.

He's part of the family. Part of the family and friends. Okay. March 2nd, a legendary day in NBA lore. So it's the day that Will Chamberlain allegedly scored 100 points

in a game back in 1962. And we say allegedly we need to see some film. And LeBron... They didn't have cameras back then. They didn't create cameras back then. They didn't create cameras back then. Something. It's my son coming on his birthday, too.

Okay. March 2nd, baby. So Will scored 100 points in 1962. 62 years later, LeBron makes history, surpassing the 40,000-point mark. And just so you can get a sense of what it's like to score 40,000 points, we got a cool infographic that Kirk Goldsberry and Vanna Bouchon showing just how many buckets it took for LeBron to get there

Letting that thing go Gil your wife smacking your lips, that's How many did you get of that for now? I'm just saying cuz I don't know. How do we know that's like? How accurate is that the graph and you just already just doing that oh I remember that one right there I'm sure they took all the compiled all the but I do look crazy though I should have just doped up That's a lot of that's a lot of buckets All the way to 40k and counting And Like that right there cap that last shot was cap because it was a layer read by the ask it They don't let me stop to it I'm just saying that wasn't... You had to make it look good.

That's what I'm saying. It looked good, but that wasn't the one. So obviously we talk about Bron a lot. There's always a lot to talk about. But just this achievement, what do y'all think about Bron scoring 40,000 points and just his impact on the game? I mean, we can't even...

I mean, 40,000 that's combined careers was before a couple greats I think more than Larry Bird combined just don't get out there serious yeah yeah for but just wild to think, and still going, I think, is the craziest part. You're 21, still averaging 25 a game. As much as people hate LeBron, how can you hate on that level of greatness? Easy because, you know, to be honest, people don't really appreciate greatness in real time. They appreciate it once it's gone. Right? don't really appreciate greatness in real time. They appreciate it once it's gone. Right. You know,

in real time, you know, um, everyone tries to find flaws and compare to other people that they've seen. So nobody really, nobody really like really truly loves greatness when it's actually going on. So it was kind of, it's kind of hard. Like people, yeah, $40,000 all this and then, you know, when you start like doing the math on, alright, if somebody want to beat this, this is what they got to do. You be like, ooh.

Ah, that's ooh, that's crazy. It's not realistic. It speaks on the dedication to the game we love, too. Taking care of your body. And, you know, just everything that you put into the game, too. I mean, 40,000 to see that is crazy, bro.

I don't care. Like, 40,000, like, all these records that people are breaking. It's like, it's pretty amazing, man. So. And he's still going. Yeah. And he's still going. He got, like, a couple more thousand, might get 40 to 45 gonna get 45 you think 45 45. Yeah, like finisher You might finish him over the 45 on the back

That's cold. Hit it and quit it. I'm gonna die 45. I'm done and that's gonna look crazy like a 40 years from now, I mean nobody hit it right on the dot, right? He might finish right on the dot because what he's averaging about what 20 This is a 2200 Oh a season. Yeah, I'm 2200 a season. I mean that's if he's playing 82 games Choose is in the twos? You're not looking up? Yeah, I'm doing it right now. It's not voice activated.

So per season, I don't know how to... He's like 1,700 a year now. About 1,700? Three years this next, 17, 20, 30? Might. Might.

He might. Maybe. Might. He might. It'll be close. It'll be close. 45,000 is crazy. I mean, 40,000 is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just...

So, just how ridiculous is LeBron scored 40,000 points in counting in his career? Twitter user Provide Context provided some context. So to put it in perspective, to get to 40,000 points, a player who averages 30 points per game his entire career would need to play 20 years on average of 67 games per season. Will anybody ever come close to touching this record? No. The only reason I say no is the idea of your talent playing 82 games a year. I think those days is gone.

Yeah. The only people you're allowing to play 82 games is basically role players or guys that are expendable. You're a star player. As an organization, you're not allowing him to play 82 games and not play 82 games for six, seven straight seasons. So the days of what Michael Jordan did, them Karl Malones, the John Stocktons, those days is over with. I mean, even John Stockton, what?

They played 20 years, right? I mean, that's impressive. In its own, what John Stockton did was an impressive thing. When you really think about, damn, he played the same amount of years, damn, 20 years, plus he played 82, what, 12, 13, 15 of those years. You know what I mean? So it's going to be hard to find, you know, a businessman to allow someone to go out there and say, all right, we're going, I need you to play 82 games every year.

So I don't, but you never know. There's always freaking nations being born, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's always freaking nature's being born man. Yeah, we all yeah, you know, yeah, it's always something we never seen Stockton I want to say played 82 games 16 Out of his 20 seasons Damn, that doesn't say you're gonna have to have you're gonna have to have somebody like that but who's the score? The type of training were they doing huh type of training what they doing now they would let me shut up Well, I can tell you when no training cuz they ain't really had trainers back in it back then when he first started

Hmm, and he was a low impact player anyway You know low impact so he's not jumping he's not getting off his feet much right so Passing and playing be that yes. Yeah passing playing even that's really so, you know talking about somebody who can score at a really high level That's the thing because it has to be a score now this score has to play at a high level Low impact or he has to be built exactly how LeBron. He has to be built with strength and muscle mass to sustain just the durability. So you're talking about people who are built like Anthony Edwards, Jason Tatum, and they are already far behind.

But it has to be somebody with that type of structure that can last a whole year, plus four. Got to be a shooter so he can use the three-point line to his advantage without putting all that heat on his body.

I mean, this has to be a guy who's created, tried to break this record. This is like, we going in, son, and this is what we're going to do. We're going to work on your body. We're going to go first three years. We're going to shoot this many threes.

Like, it has to be some type of engineering. So, LeBron currently averaged a 27.1 points per game for his career. Nobody. Nobody's. No. It's not happening. Let me shut the fuck up. So, after the game, LeBron was asked what advice he would give to his 18-year-old self and had this to say.

I wouldn't tell him anything, honestly, because 18-year-old LeBron had a great head on his shoulders. He just did. He was put in a position where I wouldn't wish too many 18-year-old kids to be put into. But he just had his head in the best possible position. He was raised the right way by his mother. He was raised the right way by his little league coaches. He was held accountable by his friends. He met a young lady in high school that held him down as well and then he just told

himself if you want to make a real name for yourself and your last name and your family and your friends and your city, the only way it's gonna happen if you just stay focused and maintain focus and put in the work. Besides my family and my friends in my city and then some people in my city as well cuz we even know some of them people. To be quite honest with you, everybody wanted to see me fail when I got to the league. Everybody was just like it's no way he's going to be able to exceed, you know, the expectations

that's put upon him. So, as wild as it sounds, somebody on Twitter pointed out that LeBron's career average 27-7-7, but in all the games that he's played, he's never put up that stat line. He's never put up 27-7-7's never put up 27-7-7? Never put up 27-7-7 in a game. But do we believe, like Brian's saying, that everyone wanted to see him fail coming out? Because we remember 2003, the hype around LeBron,

even from high school, ESPN showing his game, the chosen one. Who took the time to look that shit up? Which one? The 27-7. You know what I'm in the games man and play Negroes Mufflers ain't got shit doing like 20 we board Listen I sit on the internet Myself Boy man just googling looking at shit for no damn reason as our produce down rabbit holes

Producer pointed out you can do a game finderer which I didn't know about and it's very easy you can plug in okay I would have went through every game I would have been on a basketball reference but yeah like we we we we seen the video in the interview when he got drafted to the Cleveland Cavaliers. And we've seen what his teammates were saying when he was coming. You know what I mean? We've seen it. And we see it every day. I mean, we see it every day in the media, right?

You know, you have a LeBron hating side. Right. It isn't even that they hate LeBron. They hate the fact that they love Jordan. It's like you can't like both, which is a weird thing. Right. You can like both. You can appreciate both. You can appreciate all three. Right. You know, Kobe, too. There no, it's like there's no who's better and you really actually have to fight about it.

Right? You know, I think that's where we've been put in position. So if you like Jordan, you gotta hate LeBron. If you like Kobe, you gotta hate LeBron or Michael Jordan.

No, you can like all three of them. You can wear, you can have your Kobe jersey with LeBron shorts and some motherfucking Michael Jordan's on.

It's good, it's good, it's okay. No, I don't know. You can. I don't know. But that's what I'm saying,

but you can though. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? It's Lakers, you know, they all, they all got the Laker color, but you know what I mean.

Yeah, yeah. You know, you don't have to pick, you don't have to pick a side. I think that's what majority of America's just humans do. We pick sides when, no, I like both of them. Fuck you. Just appreciate greatness. So let's go back to LeBron talking to his younger self.

Kenyon, if you could go back, talk to your younger self before you got into the league, what would you tell your younger self? Learn how to play the game. yourself before you got into the league, what would you tell your younger self? Learn how to play the game and not basketball. Like play the business side in the game of the NBA better. So what is the business side in the game of the NBA better. And yeah. So what is the business side of the game of the NBA? Just playing the game, man. Just not being so boisterous, not being involved in certain things, going to certain meetings,

getting to know management a little better and certain things. Like, yeah, so had decent relationship with the gyms. I've played there were for the team that I played on but it was like I Let a certain situation get the better of me in and that ain't who I am So I always I should have done that like that part of the difference Brandon you could talk to you young Before you got into the league, what would you tell yourself? Be silent so I can hear the noise, so I can hear what's around me and see what's around me better. And like Kenyon said, take accountability and be more spiritual so I can know what's around me.

And how about yourself? Coming into the league, if you could give yourself a talk, which you know now, what would you tell your younger self? There's a time to play and there's a time for business. And I was... And I didn't realize this about me or about what I was doing within the last year. When someone asked me about my

locker room activities and I had to sit there and really think about it because I'm working hard and I did this and I said, well, for someone who's basically a hermit crab at home, I'm in a gym three, four, five times a day. Don't see nobody by myself. When practice came around, teammates came. So when the teammates came, that's like the playground for me now. That's recess, right? So when teammates came in, I'm treating the locker room like it's recess, water balloon

fights and you know what I mean? Paintball shootouts and that much. And I didn't grasp that at that time, that that was what I was doing, because I already got my motherfucking work in. I was stopping him from getting ears You know, so I would I would change that behavior of mine. I Still wouldn't pass them the ball even though they was working hard just just to be honest Just to be I wouldn't pass ball. It was it was just outlets But you know, would you have thought about it more? It wasn't that all that messing around the locker room and you help guys actually put the work in

We really thought about passing to him well Y'all really hope you see did you see did you see the last dance? He had those boys working hard, right? Still didn't get on the ball. That's all I'm saying So if they ain't giving up the Rock, you definitely ain't doing it. So we got to talk a little bit

about the other side. LeBron scoring those 40,000 points. Obviously historical, great moment. But Nuggets came back in. Once again, stole the Lakers spotlight. So, so far this season, they ruined opening night. They ruined the Kobe statue unveiling. And Saturday, they and Saturday they ruined bronze historic 40,000 point night.

So, the script writers are out this year. Goddamn script writers. Joker led all scorers with 35 points, 10 boards and 7 dimes. MPJ unstoppable. 25 points, we're going a perfect 10 for 10 from the field, including five for five from three. Fuck the head for a six. Y'all know y'all was losing. He was giving up the run. Did you say he was unstoppable?

Gil, 10 for 10? Did not miss. What did he? Lakers tags, Gil, Lakers tags. You know, Lakers had an opportunity. Hey, that's his first creative shot. There we he's over wouldn't again but came in there and gave him that word another circuit shot from Joker same result in a DS grill get off too small we can't read you. What if he started doing the too small celebrating?

Yeah. He could. He would definitely raise the stock. So, Jamal Murray also chipped in 24 points after the game had this to say about spoiling big nights for the Lakers in L.A. No, it's weird. You know, every time it's some night in L.A., we got to play them. You know, like, first game of the season, revenge game, we play them.

What? Man. Mama night, we play them. LeBron night, we play them. It's like, man, give them somebody else. But it was nice to come in here and shut it down. So, you know, we just wanted to take the life out of the arena, and we did a good job of just, like I said, weathering the storm

and throwing our own handmakers. So, Denver's won eight straight games over the Lakers. But since misery loves company, we also need to point out the Nuggets have beaten the Warriors seven straight times as well. Why you got to drag them into y'all's shit like that? Why you got to drag them people in there like this? That's like a nigga getting caught at home and then snitching on his homeboy. Damn. Like, what the fuck?

He didn't hit us last night at Boston. What they got to do with anything? That the Nuggets are a good basketball team. But why you got to mention them when you're talking about y'all solid ass kicking y'all ass? I don't even approve of that. Personal gripe.

Personal gripe. I'm all for Banshee bashing, but come on, man. Just pointing out the success they've had over the Dominick, California team. I'm off a bench bashing, but yeah, just pointing out why you got a point at that Why the success I've had over the dog why California's why? Because there's another California There's two other California team doesn't mother you didn't miss your knowledge. So so why mention him? Just showing the success of the Duggars have had Mike below kicking your ass the last eight times

They kick it or ask to me. We're not alone me. We're not alone He get cardio shit when you know Do was there with me like You'll talk me to do that. We definitely but but on the serious side Can any team in the league beat the Nuggets in a seven game series? I don't think so That equalizer man, no when it all said and done the game of basketball is still simple man. Mm-hmm When they need a bucket like people keep relying on this three ball man, mm-hmm We need a bucket What's the closest to get to the motherfucking basket is?

Yeah The closest to get to the motherfucking basket is, yeah. Yeah. Is he going to score or he going to make the right pass every time? So you got the ball in your best player's hand in the easiest scoring position possible. Good luck. And he determined. Good luck. I think the only team that's built that can match them in the last three or four minutes is probably Boston. Right?

You have scores. You have multiple scores. You have guys that play defense and score. Not just that defensive shit. They can put the ball in the basket because you can see in the last five minutes they're not worrying about no defensive players. They're not, we need to stop somebody. No, they got all they score in power in the last

five minutes of the game. So the fact that when you got to guard them, you're guarding them with defensive players and they're on defense, they're playing five against whatever, two or three or four. You're going to always have somebody out there who They're they on defense. They plan five against whatever two or three or four years I'm sure you're gonna always have somebody out there who can't score the ball. They aren't you there

They were sagging off camera at it's your mom Murray. His job was very easy on the defensive side people That's the people don't issue with them. Yeah, people don't get it like people boss no one talks about how great did Denver defense is because they don't No one says who can play defense on a team? No one cares. They're just maximizing their offense. And they're like, we're going to do just enough.

But the fact that most teams, they play defense against themselves. I got three scorers, two guys who can't score. That's defense. My two scorers is helping the defense. You don't think the Clippers can give him a run to some way off Who gonna guard big fella and? Boston they got a better the better better chance playing Boston

Like if they can get that far, but I don't think The reason I said boss because they have height to it right don't have like the match because you know I don't think that the Clippers can. The reason I said Boston is because they have height, too. They have height to match because people don't realize Gordon... There's important pieces on this team, right? And it's Jamal with his pick and roll

and then you got to worry about it in the fourth quarter. You got Jokic in the fourth quarter, more scoring than it is passing. And then you got Gordon. Gordon doesn't just sit and watch like the other 29 teams, power forwards or three men that really can't shoot from the outside. They don't just sit there, right? He's cutting. Every time Jokic has the ball and Jokic starts to drive, he's following. For a lob, for a kicking, for

you know what I mean? So he's putting so much pressure on the basket because now you have your center and your power forward attacking at the same time. And that's a combo that nobody pays attention to. If it's Murray and Jokic, they're going to find something. If not, it's going to be Jokic doing what he's doing

and then if you try to help, Goran's in there motherfucking doing something. And you got that boy with that switch on the outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, he's letting that thing fly. What did y'all think about Darvham's decision to not have AD, Garden Joker, fourth quarter? I don't give a fuck about that. Why he have Cam out there?

Why did he sit D-Lo? Why he sit D-Lo on the bench because he had a rough patch? That's not what this game about. The game is about having a threat. It's having a threat out there versus having some guy who's playing 19 minutes taking three shots. He's not a threat. So if he's not a threat, why am I paying attention to him? Right, and D'Lo, I don't give a fuck,

that's what I'm saying, I don't care if he goes over 10, he keeps everyone honest. And that's the point of, you know, like trying to win a basketball game last three minutes. The last three minutes is where you lose. You lose the last three minutes. And you have to understand what that, the last three, last four minutes of the game,

you want the defense to be able to play honest. So if you want LeBron to be LeBron, you have to have players out there that know when you can't leave me because I'm going to fire it up. Right? You got Michael Porter Jr. went 10 for 10, right? It did not matter. And most of those shots look wide open because somebody decided we're gonna leave him. Oh

shit, okay You know, they got a lot of a tough And what about the Timberwolves you think obviously they gave them their hardest test they said last season in their championship run Man, Nicola be baptizing the boys, man. She'll be baptizing them. It was tough, too. He was still baptized. It was tough, but still came baptizing Rudy Gobert. He didn't say it was tough.

They made him sweat. Yeah, we actually broke a sweat against this group. Yeah. They're young, running around fast. Yeah, oh, yeah. They made me run up and down a little bit. Had to stretch it after a couple games, you know. The round two, you know, I had Aiden, you know,

a couple of elbows to his chest, he quit. He won't play no more. It's different when you got to be that own ball defender, man. Like consistently, when he's constantly in action and he, because he ain't going to never be out of like just where he's constantly in action. And he, cause he ain't gonna never be out of like, just where he can roam and help. I'm saying Rudy, so he gonna have to be on ball. That's a big difference.

And on everything they run, he in action. So he can't be off and helping and clogging the paint up and doing shit because big fella got it. Yeah, big fella. So. It's hard out here. Lakers tried hard though. They came closer. But you still didn't answer the question. How you just hate on the Warriors like that though?

I'm just pointing out facts, Kenyon. That was flat out hate. Because they hate on me. That's because you see where the Lakers and the Warriors are. They're right above them. They're in nine, y'all in ten. That's what it is, B. You see it? The dominant

California team struggling. So you want the home play in game. Yeah, we want the home play. Yes, sir. You want the home play in game. I get it. We just... Just trying to win the game. So we asked the chat. Oh, yeah, because they in third.

Yeah, we want eighth spot. Warriors might get the eighth or seventh. We want eighth. We played one. We played one. And then we played four-five. One-four-five. See you in the Western Conference finals, sir.

Yeah, down bad, but my friend and Nicole is sitting there waiting like. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody go get him out of there for us. Yeah, down bad, but... And then the cold is sitting there waiting like... Somebody go get him out of there for us. Somebody come get this baby. Somebody, yeah, somebody got to get him out of there. So we asked the chat, does the NBA still run through Denver? 70% said yes, 30% said no.

We're going to talk Celtics in a second, but before we do, got to talk about Kaitlyn Clark. Senior night for Iowa's women's team, and Kaitlyn Clark went out with a bang in her last college home game. So after breaking the NCAA Division 1 women's record with a deep three against Michigan February 15th,

Clark passed Pistol Pete for the all-time record on a free throw. So obviously we have to mention that Maravich set the men's record in three seasons without a three-point line. But nonetheless, the new record below. Someone fouled her at the end. to mention that Maravich set the men's record in three seasons without a three-point line, but nonetheless the new record below. Someone fouled her at the end.

I think it was a tech. A tech. The guy, the tech, she got three goals. A tech walked by and elbowed him. And that's the end of the game, right? No, it's the half time. Oh, it's the second. They play quarters, Gilbert.

They play quarter? They play quarter. The women, they play quarter. So college was half? Men's play half, the girls play quarters. Oh. They play quarter? They play quarter. The women, they play quarter. So college was half? Men's play half, the girls play quarters.

How do y'all feel about it? Because that's something I always wonder why we don't play quarter. I think they should play quarter. Yeah, men should play quarters too, right? That 20-minute half's not really... It's horrible. That's all you got? 20 minutes? That shit just ticking down.

Yep. Played the wrong team, that slowed every dive. Boy, you playing in the 50s, 40s. When we talk about Clark, just the hype machine, obviously has brought a lot of attention to the game. I would go out to say that the women's college game is much more intriguing than the men's college game, especially the tournament last season. But what has Kaitlin Clark meant for women's basketball these past few

seasons? Just college basketball in itself, because for the last year and this year, she's probably been the biggest name in college. Who's on that level? Besides Angel Reese, I would say.

That and besides just personality, I mean, the game that matched the hype, right? You know, she's probably been the biggest name in the last few years. And, you know, they're going to have to... I mean, you got Juju coming, right? And I think, like, the reason, you know,

the media's not pumping Juju as great as she is because they're just trying to give Caitlyn her flowers. But Caitlyn's held her down for shit. I mean, obviously, since she's been a freshman. She's just been great.

Four seasons now. I mean, I think the get-in price for that game was like, cheapest ticket was like $450, which significantly more than a Clippers ticket and a Lakers ticket, to be real. Not hating, just pointing out information. They're gonna pay. But, you know, lines out the building, people pulling up. So Brandon, what do you feel like Kaitlyn Clark has meant, really just for the game of basketball these past few seasons?

Nah, it's just dope to see a woman break the scoring record, you know, for women's basketball. So, it's dope. She put in a lot of work and yeah, man, it's just dope to see history, bro. Like, we've seen a lot of history in like hoop and we're living to see it. So, it's just dope to see it all. Like, the game is growing. Obviously, we're all in the moment. Does this feel like it's tough when you're in it This was this feel like a golden kind of era for basketball. Just the stuff that we're getting to see Kind of seeing you know Steph obviously telling his career KD LeBron everything that they're doing Women's game just exploding like it is but when you just look around

Do we feel like we're in a golden era basketball team? Yeah, the game is evolved man in a way that we probably couldn't have thought or seen it going and for a college female player to Break the all-time record like Brandon said I special that's special for her to Play the way Steph Plays and shoot it in different things like that, man. It's great for the game.

It's great for the women's game, for sure. It's great for the game of basketball, for it to be a city, a place like Iowa. You know what I'm saying? So it's dope. It's dope for the game. But definitely, I think it's a good era for the game. With certain aspects need to change for the lower kids, smart kids. But for college, for the game, like for this and what LeBron is doing and like you said, with certain guys on their way out,

I think it's definitely right. I think it is. so Clark already announced that you'll be going pro after the season and in all speculation and conversation around that In the Indiana fever who hold the number one pick in the 2024 WMA draft have already doubled their season ticket prices in anticipation Yeah, you talk a lot about this But just you know I think women having to play four years to be eligible to go to the WNBA and kind of losing some of their value and star power in that process. But how will Kaitlin Clark's star power translate to the WNBA? Who has the number one pick again?

Good, Indiana Fever. Indiana Fever. Indiana, Gil. I mean, they can. Who's your coach? No, I'm just saying they can. I'm going to just be honest, right? You know, it's Indiana, Gil. Who's your country? No, I'm just saying they can... I'm going to just be honest, right? It's Indiana, right?

Fever, right? It's not the Sparks, not Vegas, not Liberty. Where her name is the Kobe, the Michael. It's a top-notch name for your sport. And this name will not be in a big city. Right? This name is not going to have, not her name or stuff. Her name is big.

This is going to be most likely like LeBron James in Cleveland. Right? At some point, to really push the needle, she's not gonna be there. Like shoe companies, all that. There's a reason that Sabrina is being pushed the way she is. She's in New York, right?

So the fact that in the WNBA, I'm sorry, but if you knew she was coming out, it could have been New York City with the frozen envelope. Give me the frozen one. You know what I mean? I think what, Sparks has number two? Yeah. Sparks has number two.

Becker, was that Paige? She's coming back. I would have prop that at this point I probably would have just entered my name knowing that they have three picks in the top six Right or top eight. There's parts of the to second fourth and eighth pick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so right there That's what I'm saying. So I got second fourth today Your name these names injury and she's gonna be here Angel because she's going to be here. Angel, because she's going to sell product. The WNBA needs product being sold. You need someone to push that name. And I'm just sorry.

As a star, yeah, she's going to be a star. She's no different than Taurasi when they came. The stars are going to be stars. But are you going to be able to capitalize on it as a business with her being in Indiana? So when you say LeBron and Cleveland as a comparison, do you feel like LeBron wasn't able to capitalize? Because I feel like him going to a small market, even those first seven years, helped grow the game.

You know, Cleveland was close to the center of the basketball world just while LeBron was there. I mean, his name was big enough. Big enough. That it didn't matter. And then when he went to Miami, how big was it? Yeah, okay. Of course. And they came down like, I get it. It was, uh... I understand it. Big enough today didn't mean when he went to Miami how big

That's all I'm saying it was yeah Well, I think about Caitlin obviously playing at Iowa Iowa cities I want to say like a five-hour drive from Indiana like those games are gonna be sold out Oh, you know, no, no people gonna watch that they can they can triple the price I'm talking about the triple the fever franchise is going to go a little bit higher. I'm talking about the WNBA as a whole. For sure. I'm talking about it as a whole. I get it.

You guys talk about that a lot. Fever is going to be in that motherfucker. They're going to sell that joint out every night. They have been, I'm sure. But it's going to be, yeah, they're going to spend more in marketing and all that shit trying to put her out there than she would have. Trying to get TV games. You're going to try to do whatever it takes to get the eyes on her.

And, you know, when... Rather than going somewhere that got their own network. Yeah, like Liberty. They got their own network, so, yeah. Liberty, Sparks, you know, I mean you're talking about even even Chicago And there's a reason Candace Parker look at the city's can Candace Parker played in big city big city big she You know that's just we got to embrace the small markets though, all right

Yeah, no, no, no, that's you the WNBA has a problem in itself at marketing and the game and advertising the game and getting the game out there. So this won't do it any justice. Yeah, obviously, I understand what you guys are saying. If I'm Sparks, I'm like, hey, Indy, I'm going to give you pick two and four. Give me number one. And this is something you guys talk about a lot on this couch though And I think jerseys out the wazoo people that are long those mark Michael cities take it personally when you say like you guys sell it And in Minnesota, you know, you like to see him go somewhere big but it's the truth

Unfortunately, it's the truth. Yeah, and that's right. Oh these guys like Yeah, you can give them a shoe. You can give Giannis a shoe. Cool. You can give Anna a shoe. Cool. But just imagine Anthony Edwards

in New York City with billboards and that smile and that face with Adidas and Times Square. Just imagine that, what that does, right?

That brand of New York, that Knicks, it's different, dog. I played two, it's different. But I think we need new people. Hey, hey, hey, touching your, the other sex, they touch their toes different when you got certain jerseys on, you know what I mean? That's... Man. You got a greasy jerseys on, they be like, ah, whatever.

Ah, it's all slow motion. The lazy lean to the side. You got a Laker jersey on, Knicks jersey on, they get excited. They wake up, all right, baby, give me two minutes. Let me go ahead and get myself together. You get lingerie when you got the Nixon L.A. jersey on. It's not the same for a Thunderdress. No, Thunderdress, you just pull it to the side. Not the same for a Jazz jersey. You just pull it to the side. Jazz jersey doesn't have that level.

But look, no matter how much you hate what we're saying, the NBA just proved. They just proved it. And after the All-Star, they made a whole announcement. Hey, if you don't got a certain amount of this, this, 120 first class. They don't got 20,000 first class seats. They just make up shit just to let you know They don't want them in those cities no more. We just gonna stick the big cities and because we need to keep growing our game That's for a big business man. I mean that's cuz

At the end of the day Indiana the only way you benefit is if the league grows if the league grows you grow period Right, it ain't about it ain't about today It's about longevity. Do's about longevity you are owner you are owner for as long as you sell this team so the more the the tv deals come in because la sparks tv deal will be way bigger for the nba then i mean wmba then you're indiana fever i mean i'm sorry but if i'm y'all i'm trying to get three first rounders versus the one. So those all-star requirements again, 7,250 hotel rooms, three five-star hotels, 75 nonstop domestic flights. The key word, nonstop. No more layover cities, please.

Nonstop. And at least 20 international flights. How many nonstops just from Indiana? You're hitting that Chicago layover. I's gonna hurt Shay. Hmm Shay from OKC Cuz he'll get by getting VP this year, but you think he will do I know you guys have said that that's your pick to win He should he's then he's MVP. I mean, there's nothing he's MVP. He's the Gills Arena MVP. No, he's the MVP of the NBA right now, bro. There's no, there's no, if, I mean. They got a little over a month to go in the season.

They got a month and some change to go in the season. That regular season. No, he ain't slowing down no time. No, it's going to be like the media is going to try to push. They're going to try to push Jokic if Jokic goes on a 10-game winning streak. But it don't matter. Y'all are champs. Y'all shouldn't be third. Bulls would have never been third.

Golden State, when they won champ, they wasn't coming back. No, they was coming back smacking. So the fact that you guys haven't dominated. There's a guy who's 26 years old. Whole team is 22. No all-stars on that team, right? You know, you're going to have somebody who's, what, he made the rookie-sophomore game. You got two rookie-sophomore players on your team, right? And they are sitting at one or two, and he's playing well.

That's, I'm sorry, I don't give a fuck what your criteria is. He's going to touch all of them. So Nuggets have game out of first right now Do you think that changes if they now push to that number one seed in the West? No, it doesn't change nothing There's a there's a team that didn't even supposed to be in Eight seed right now and they're sitting there holding it down for the last Month two months and they are young and they're young. This is not a back. This ain't a championship team You supposed to be where you are

Denver you supposed to be number one who? If we say who's gonna win a championship everybody's gonna say Denver So your record should match what everybody else to say. So the fact that somebody else is actually playing better than you Don't have the team you have and it's sitting at one, even if they bumped a two, they shouldn't even be there in the first place. So someone on that team is playing like a MVP, double MVP, whatever y'all want to call it,

he's playing it. The fact that he has that talent. And he first team all NBA. Yeah. Again. Again. Again. So we talked about Denver, right?

You think they... Nobody could beat them in a seven-game series except for maybe the Celtics. So let's... Maybe. Let's talk about... Okay. Millie Wacke.

Come again? Milwaukee? We're on the five-game winning streak since you've been talking shit. You're on the five... Since you went through this. They are, dude. They are.

Oh, no, no. They are. The five-game winning streak. Let's... No, no. We're going to are. The five-game winning streak. Let's... No, no, we're going to do that. Five-game winning streak. It's a good land. Millie O'Hawkeye.

Let me see. Hold on. Let me just... Doc Rivers. I gave up. You know... Is he? Don't look at the teams they played.

I know. I just want to look at it. You got the Bulls. Ooh, ooh. You got the Bulls. They beat the Timberwolves, too, though, right? If I'm not mistaken. got the Bulls Maybe the Timberwolves to the right of them. Yeah, and then the Bulls. Okay, so in that five game winning streak you got the Hornets The Hornets greedy hoarders team 76ers without him be so gritty. So they beat in the last five games you got

I'm the same with five. I know so you got you got Timberwolves. That was your great game We're five I know since he got a great game. I'm saying and then you play the 76ers obviously and B's gone the unity though, and then you beat the Hornets twice Mm-hmm. Not one time you beat them twice a Gritty and then you beat the Bulls. Oh Shit, let's jump for joy on this shit right here. Hey since you've been talking we five and oh, that's all I'm saying We give they would win 3-2 in that stretch. Yeah, they haven't. 2-3.

You'd be clowning. I mean, come on. Like, they haven't. Who are they playing? This is about to be the stretch right here. Are they playing the Clippers? They should beat the Warriors. We will hope they beat the Warriors.

Then from there, you got Lakers, Clippers, Kings. They're going to beat the 76ers. You got the Suns, Celtics. So let's see what the record is in the next 10 games. And then we will chat. So, you know, I'm not too keen. Okay, look at us. There we go.

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We are assembling the troops. We are taking all phase. But we talked about the Denver Nuggets. Now let's talk about the Celtics. Had an interesting game this weekend. Warriors put up to Boston for the final game of their four-game road trip. They fucked around and decided to

sag off Jalen Brown and quickly found out. Brown dropped 19 points in the first quarter. Including five threes. That's disrespectful. Buckets. That's just... come on, man. Put a hand up.

Yeah, going like he's Ben Simmons. It was disrespectful. That was a double disrespect. I mean, at what point in the midst of the disrespect, you said, okay, there we go, now they're getting hands up, actually trying to close out. It's too late now, they already got it going. Yeah. They're trying to close out. It's too late now. They already got it going. Yeah.

They're trying to close out. Like I said, Brown dropped 19 points in the first quarter, including five threes to help the Celtics set the tone. At that point right there, when he had 30, he had 19. 19. It was 19 versus 21. Yeah. So Celtics took a 44-point lead into the break,

at which point the Warriors waved the white flag, mentioned most of their starters for the second half. Brown finished with 29. Chatham dropped 27. And the Celtics won by 52 points. How much? 52. Is that how you can get if I'm pointing out that the Warriors played the Celtics and they lost by 52?

No, that's who they played. Okay, I'm just making sure. But you brought them people in and something that had nothing to do with them. They have also lost seven straight to the Knights. Just showing what they're doing against the best team in the East or the best teams in the West. Still getting packed up. So it's the Celtics' third 50-point win this season,

which is the NBA record. After the game, Steve Kerr was asked about the Warriors' decision to sag off Brown defensively. You try different things. You have to pick your matchups. We wanted Tremont to be able to help on drives and make sure that we weren't giving up easy stuff in the paint. The killer was the transition from the beginning all the way until the end. They got 42 transition points, so you're not winning a game with that kind of defensive or lack of defensive work.

So Jalen Brown saw the clip, took the time to do a little trolling of Kerr's decision. He tweeted, more teams should take this strategy. So Brown also said, it's a lot of respect for the Golden State Warriors, but we feel like it's our time now. Brown might be right. Celtics have won 11 straight games, and the last time that they were 48-12 through 60 games

was the 2007-08 season when they went on to win the chip. Is this Boston team for real or Fugazi? No, they for real. They for real. No, they for real. They for real? Nah, they for real. They got a really good team, man. Yeah. They got a really, really good team, man.

The fact that Brad Stevens can go up in the front office and then they not miss a beat and bring a different voice, a different mind in there. Yeah, nah, they for real. I, no, I think they're for real. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted this. Don't get me wrong. I just think Denver's a good team, but I wouldn't be surprised if Boston ran through the Eastern Conference

in the playoffs. I would not be surprised if it's some 4-1s, some 4-0s. I would not be surprised one bit so not a from definitely for real 52-point win without poor Zingas we all got to mention and then it was a joke Joe Dumar said that they're gonna try to find a way to put defense into the game right said they're reviewing to see if they need to if you try the idea of three seconds,

you just seen what it possibly look like. Someone busting your ass. Because at the end of the day, Golden State, what do they say? We want to stop the drive. So we're going to sag off

and we're going to block the lane up. The worst three-point shooter that the Boston have on the team is the dude that's making 300 million, right? So you're going to be sagging off of the worst shooter, which is him. Grayson Allen in Suns, the worst player on a starting five, shoots 52% from the field, 48. That's where the game has went now, right, where your center, so Rudy is the center.

He's supposed to protect the rim. When he has to guard Jokic, when he has to guard Porzingis, there's no rim protection. In action, no. Right, and that's what we, they seen it coming, but they didn't understand what they were looking at. When Utah couldn't play Rudy in the playoffs because teams was going small, they were like, well, shit. What he's good for, first team, all defense, he can't be used in a series because they

got a guy who can spread the floor on us. So now he's sitting there, so he's useless down here. And that's what ends up happening. You got a game where everyone is a weapon now. Yeah, and you put him in situations where guys are running in the pick and rolls, and he's sad. Like, yo, it's over. Like, yeah, it's been saying it.

Like, that's why in the playoffs, it it's gonna be hard for them to play cat and Rooted together. Yep, right. It's gonna be hard So when you got it, but you plan somebody like Boston is like yo I hope the space again. The cuisine is like it's a different animal. Everybody plays I feel like we put all five shooters out there and say our Tatum. They nobody down there drive Yeah, it's a different animal man and Jaden Brown post-up Andrews crazy, and I'm watching it live watching the game And I'm for the first possession I'm like

when he did it like mm-hmm like Like they like percentages lie You just can't look on that paper be like man. He's shooting 29 He just warmed up. Yeah He has a game routine. He just warmed up before the game. Mm-hmm They didn't pay him 300 for nothing. Like you picked him. I just It's a different like Draymond took it to the extreme I Believe right. Okay. We want to want to bait him in the shooting not just

Daring him to shoot it. Like there's a difference, right? I ain't gonna be angle touch you Mm-hmm, but I'm gonna be one slide away. I'm not just gonna let you tee it up every time like The dude is their second best player and on some nights he's their best player on some nights. That's the blessing for your part. Like I can say, all right, we're going to let Drew Holiday try to give us 30. Okay. Okay.

Right? The second best player, no. Right? Like I wouldn't even feel comfortable letting Al Horford sag off it. Because he's going to keep shooting. I want at least the point of sagging off or saying

that person is hesitant of shooting. Ben Simmons makes sense. Right? Because it's pulling teeth trying to get him to shoot five shots. Let alone ten. Fifteen? He takes fifteen. It must shoot five shots. Yeah. Let alone ten. Yeah. Fifteen. He take fifteen. It must be his birthday.

And half of them three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's certain players you're supposed to do that to. Not the digger who makes 300 million. Yeah, nah. Nah.

No. No, it was asinine. Zubac. I'm going to see if you're going to try to put up... There's only a few players on certain teams that's going... Lakers, they got two players. They not capable. Obviously, anybody can shoot the ball.

Just chuck that shit up there. They not capable. They don't even have the mental capacity to take 20 shots and feel comfortable with themselves. Absolutely. Take it without looking over to see how LeBron feel. They don't have that. You still got to take 30 shots and look over to make sure the stars is still happy with you. Like, okay.

There's not a lot of those guys out there, so you have to really pick and choose. This is the way I've been saying it. With Draymond, I've been saying I would play him. He's going to have to score 1,000. Wait, drip? Yeah. If I'm coaching against Draymond Green in the playoffs, he's going to, no. He would have been, like I said before on the show, he would have been the MVP every year.

He would have been the MVP of the finals and all that shit. He would have been the MVP. They have facts. He would have been MVP of the finals and all that shit. He would have been MVP. Yeah, facts. He would have been talking way more crazy. That's fine. But I know who wouldn't have been. Who? 30, 35.

30, 35. Yeah, they wouldn't have been getting on rhythm. I would have been playing just like how he was trying to play Jalen Brown. I would have been playing him just like, hey, shoot it. Shit, he over that, but nah. And it's still a crazy-ass game plan. It's still human behavior, too, right? Like, even after, like, because we go into the game plan,

all right, we're going to sag off, dude. All right, that's my man. I got him. Sag, help, coach. And then he hit two threes. And he started, started like questioning that shit I uh your game plan out the window. Oh, man Hey, uh, and then what ends up happening is what you start playing a little closer someone drives

Hey, man, you damn it my bad. He hits a three God damn it and you start you start messing with yourself instead of listening to the game plan Hey that cuz question be I mean Thank you to the two points you just made like it's not like Jaylen Brown is ever hesitant out there in his game or in his shot. So yeah, if the game plan is that against him, like you said, he made two. The game plan is out, that game plan is out of the window. It's gone. He made two already.

He ain't hesitate on neither one of them. No, coach. Hey, man, we're not doing that no more. Making me look bad. Yeah. No, because that's my matchup. I know it. Especially if you're the one that's on the receiver.

Yes. And now it's like, what is Draymond doing? No, that's the game plan. Well, the game plan was flawed. Yep. That's it. That's what I said. It only works when the player is Rudy Gobert or somebody

who's hesitant to shoot, who don't shoot threes, or somebody who don't shoot threes or is hesitant, like you said, in Ben Simmons. It don't work. It just... Second best player on the team. But then that's the problem there is defense out there but those that defense right there don't work much today because

Those guys are chucking that shit like you can try that shit against Denver. Yeah You think Michael Porter? We can't get Michael Porter Jr. to pass, let alone we're going to sag off of him. I mean, you could do it against Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon shoots, too. He's going to shoot. He's going to shoot it.

I'll live with that. But that's what I'm saying. He ain't going to hesitate. He's not going to hesitate. See, you want to do it against someone who's questioning their ability. Like, is it okay for me to shoot it? You know what I mean? Yeah, we'll see if it's okay for me to shoot it

That mean time yeah, but that's he gonna do it. Okay. We'll see though. He gonna be shooting. He not he not like he not brown though Okay Not at all Okay, so like Clippers right like Clippers if they put a PJ in right and we leave PJ open 20 times will PJ take 20 shots. No, nah He wouldn't he wouldn't even feel right taking 20 shots he gonna get the like five He gonna get you like three in a row and then start looking around like he'll see my just do a pick a little What if you hit? If he shoot three in a row, I mean if he makes it I'm just something if you went over three and then got that

Nick not shooting the fourth. He's not shooting the fourth. He's not shooting the fourth one, but Jaylen you you you got right now Right now that ever the mice right now. Yeah the my yeah right now man play like seven minutes still into he listen ever PJ is one of those dudes that play his role Yeah if he missed three He's not shooting for him because you start feeling you start looking around like man I want my dad's doing are they about to serve me out like he's not gonna go over 22 for 20 he ain't even gonna think about it. He'll never have a game. I got a three for 23. No, I got He's not even have a three for ten like I did if he don't make if he makes it if he makes the first

He's got a game. He would take a fourth one PJ makes two in a row. He gonna try to get like office a rebound try to get him a little easier other than that He's but that's what I'm saying. So you have to have certain type of dudes the type of defense like Ben Simmons you take 20 shots cool. Even if you make three I'm still like I Don't think you gonna shoot three more. Nah. No, no, I don't think you're going to shoot three more. Nah, nah, nah. I don't think you're going to do it. You care too much about your teammates. You care too much. You care too much about your teammates to take three more shots, fam. Six. You make six. You you probably done. You got 12. You're like, I'm good.

There's guys that don't know how to shoot themselves into a rhythm Like they just like you you can come down you can Both of y'all can be shot first four or five that was like you gonna shoot the next It don't matter right it don't matter and some people that don't Just don't have it you gotta do to do that to people who just, who has a conscience. You know what I mean? Like they have a conscience. You don't want to do it to people that just don't. Because Jayler Brown ain't got no conscience.

Yeah, no for sure. He's proven that. For sure. But the Warriors been playing good though. I just don't know what happened in Boston. They been playing good. Last game on a road trip. Bad game plan last game.

Yeah, bad start off, bad game plan and it worked and then is this now you got it now you got the guy that you that you have the rest of the players playing regular you got to start playing but you got the dude that you was going to help off with ultimate confidence that's now his swag on 1000 mm-hmm right it's like I think about a Draymond hit four, five threes in a row. Oh, my God. He's going to be like, oh, shit, yo. Because now he offensively ready in.

He's still going to hit you with that defense. So the year that they blew the lead in the final to Cleveland, right, one of those games, Draymond made like four threes in the first, four or five in the first half. And I was like, bad yeah I said to myself because he gonna keep 32 and 15 I think in that game I was like that's bad because he gonna keep shooting right he came out the third and missed like his first like four or five I was like yeah see that like it's that it was so funny why is that a real thing that is a real is that a real thing? That is a real thing. Like, the bad shooter making shots, you're like, man, he going to keep shooting.

Yeah. He going to keep shooting. Fools goal. Yeah, you've used those like a motherfucker. Right? Yep. Yeah, I've been looking at some dudes like, yeah, that. So, to your point about P.J. Tucker, he has not attempted 10 field goals in a game since October of 2022 when he was with the

Sixers 2022. Oh, is he from what was he? How many men are you asking extra? No? No? Any I mean I mean shop the fact that he shot ten. I'm what was it was That's recent recent history. Well while we look that up, can we talk about just a defensive strategy? How often were you tempted to go against or just flat out reject a coach's defensive game plan? No, not rejected. I had my own rules on defense. We had our team stuff that I was a part of, but I guarded things and people and situations different.

Of course, I'm in tune to the game plan. But then we do come out and something don't work, then it don't work again, I'ma be the one to be like, hey, man, we can't do this no more, no. Like, this ain't working. We came out, we playing the Lakers, of course, Kobe doing his thing.

I just like, listen, man, we were supposed to play it some way. I came out the time, I'm like, hey, man, we not gonna do that, man. I'ma run at him. Go get the ball out his hand., we're not going to do that, man. I'm going to run at him. Go get the ball out of his hand. Y'all be ready to rotate.

He came out, they threw it to him, I ran at him. Ah, get the ball out of his hand. Hey, take the nine back. Deny him back to half court because he can't go back there to get it. Whatever you got to do to keep him getting the ball. Let somebody else beat us. But, yeah. Yeah, there's so many views during a game at one given time, right? You have a guard view, which the guard view is probably the weakest view out of all of it because there's only one person in front of him that he's really paying attention to.

You know, your back line is seeing everything. Your coach is seeing it from a whole another view he got the sideline view we got the 2k view right and then your big man has the best view because they can see everything in motion right they have everybody in front of them so they can see who's attempting to go back door and he's stopping it from going back door right so he can see this guy's getting ready to do a back door and then he he goes over there that doesn't happen but he's seeing what was possible so when the coach makes a play this is what we're gonna do and the big man says no no that's not what we're gonna do because if i do this he's coming back door so he's still in control of

that backline defense and the whole situation of it so So what LeBron did and what LeBron is doing in the timeout happens at least what, 10 times a game? Happens 10 times a game, all 30 teams. Someone is coming out of timeout like, nah, we're not doing that. That's some dumbass shit. Motherfucker be like, all right, we're not doing that. Yeah, that's another match. I'm gonna be like, we're gonna run the one To We a you know to me we got we got we this man just hit three shots, right? And he doesn't called another play and be like, no, no run it again

We're gonna keep milking it until they stop it because they going by a blue sheet Or white whatever so they'd like all right at the six, at the 60-minute mark, we're going. All right, four down, four down. He ain't even in the game. Or we're going to let you, or we're going to do it your way to show you that it don't work. Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely, we're going. Absolutely. Hey, man, listen. All the time. You adamant on running it this way, defending it this way, you got it. Yep.

And I'm going to run it to a tee I'm not gonna do this. I'm gonna run it to the tee Show you that it don't work and look right over there That's who we have a point to prove at times man like these some of these coach things they like God's gift the basketball They know it all. It's their way of the highway. They want to do it. No. Like, some of these coaches think they, like, God's gift of basketball and they know it all. It's their way or the highway. They want to do it.

No. Well, you okay. We're going to do it your way. Absolutely. We're going to screen high. We're going to carry low, bump the cutter. No.

He's going to stop right in the middle and dunk the ball. Cool. I'm going to carry low. He's going to stop right in the middle and hook dunk it.

This is laughing, dog. Because it's really only a few times where as a group we was like, yo, he's scared of this dude, and you keep trying to run four down, he's going to turn that bitch over, he's going to air ball, and then you're going to look at us like some wrong. All right four down Look at coach Back on deep with like if we sit there and I'm laughing now cuz we used to do that shit my first couple years of Washington

Okay Alright, you do know he God y''all don't want to turn it forward. You do know he guarding him, right? You know he already said he don't want the ball. No, he told us he don't want the ball until he warm up, but we going to keep going with the first play, okay? All right. Man.

Okay. Over two, now the crowd booing. Okay, now we just lost. These are the conversations I appreciate as an outsider Yeah, yeah, like I said, I used to just I said I play certain things like cross screens I played a certain way down screens. I like but to Gil point Because we like you see it all we see the flares about to happen who's about to run up for the pick and roll and Somebody go back door. We to help

So it's like we in charge and it's tough to play with a big that don't talk yep they don't communicate like guards it's the worst thing possible for a big that don't communicate or like you start bringing more foreigners in now it's a language barrier right that's what we had in Denver with Nene and Nene was a great player but he didn't talk so that's why a lot in Denver when they named a name. It was a great player, but he didn't talk So that's why a lot of times we on the floor together. I'm doing air I'm I'm making up for me him because he not Not vocal. He's not vocal that that improve as he got more comfortable with the language or is that just yes But no, it's still like it's him. It's him. Yeah, right

Yo speaking on defense. Why do you think the Europeans don't play defense or they run? news coming on Because I think that's false. It's false. Yeah, I named it I mean if you did you say Giannis you say you don't take so take the bigs because that's where the Bigs hold so who's the best five guard defenders? I'll even give you position one, two, and three. Go. Best defenders? Mm-hmm.

Who can stop somebody from the guard position from? Well, the MVP, he's from Canada. No, that's not Euro. Well, he's not from America, so he's not. No, but that's not Euro, so we said Euro basketball. North American. I mean, listen, he's not from America. So let me give G this one dear

You had to cross the Atlantic Ocean Mm-hmm. That's fine. But he's wrong I'm just in the year. I'm just saying the Europeans are kicking ass. So I don't know yes and everything in every aspect Okay, okay because that's the narrative with bigs. Let's take the bigs out of it. Tell me the best point guard. Take Luka. Now give me the second best point. Go. Second, third, fourth, and fifth best point guard, Euro.

Then give me your twos and give me your threes. In the position since they kicking ass. I mean, I don't have to. I know, because you don't have any. I named three, so that's good enough. You named three, what? Shea is... I'll give you Shea. Okay. Lucas Shea.

Now give me, after Shea, the third best foreigner. From the point guard, and then you're not going to name a two, and you're not going to name a three. I was just throwing in there to just be an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Jamal Murray? Oh, so you're gonna go with another candidate. Okay, not from America Okay our neighbors to the north they like both of ours so I mean right there I mean that's fine I named five So what he said was right. Okay. Go ahead

So who so so what so you think that the second best point guard would be? Second best will be Dennis Schroeder just just for record Dennis Schroeder would be the second best year old player But you said Dennis Schroeder will be the second best year. So in defense, this is what I mean. We're getting confused with the big man. The big man from Euro and international has evolved our game offensively. See, we want to say what's wrong with our defense instead of saying, fuck, our offense is just that fucking good. Our offense is just that fucking good our offense is fucking

amazing what happened is the euros came over and they expanded the floor right all of these guys are big man and it's removed the idea of pack the lane right these guys have stretched the floor to the point where there's no one down there. So now you can come down the lane and go to the lane. Why is it so easy for the guards to get in the lane? Because the big man who used to clog it up is sitting at the three-point line. So Porzingis

is at the three-point line. Jokic is at the three-point line. So it's not that the defense is bad. Our offense is just that good. So if you want to say, how do we fix defense, get rid of the Euros, because the Euros expanded the game. See, it was a sarcastic

way of saying the Euros has changed the game for the better. Offensively, they've came in with the three-point shooting, the backdoor and all that, to the point where there's five out now. So if you want to put defense back in the game, okay, get rid of the guys who expanded it.

See, everyone takes it literal, but that's what it is. It's the yokage is coming in. The game's evolving. Yes, but they don't want to give the offense credit. They want to make it a defensive problem when give us the credit, give everyone the credit for being better at what they do.

There's no more Charles Oakley's and Anthony Mason's, bro. There's no more Dennis Rodman sitting down there. There's no more Luke Longley's. These guys are sitting here trying. Try to leave. And that's the difference. So now when you have someone like Shea, right, and he's coming and probing and sitting here doing

this, there's no Shaquille O'Neal sitting down there with his man sitting down there blocking his lane up. So now he gets to come in there, them Lucas get to come in there and play easy man basketball because they know you can't help. That's what the game is. So I was being sarcastic by saying, if you want more defense, give it all the Euros. And then you can go back to your 81-65 games and see if you like that. That was the point. Unfortunately,

the internet loves to be inflamed and you were getting packed up for most of the weekend. I mean, I can do this. I can even double down on the stance and say, ask any guard

here, who would they rather go against? Offensively. I get to take somebody off the dribble. Who do you

think we're going at? Right? Who do you think is the target when you got the ball? Well,

Europe? Yeah. Just like it was white American. Dan Dick out, ha! Ha! Right? I mean, but at the end of the day, you know, those guys, their value was, their value was, we're going to expand the game.

They made it so easy for selfish guards. The reason that we can get 200, 300 million is because we can get the numbers, right? I can go out there and average 30, 35. I can walk through it because the game became so much easier. The game became so much easier because the year rules changed the game. What year did you think that changed? 2000. You know, like Dirk had a glimpse of it, right? But it was still big man basketball. 2000.

What did you say, when Braun left Miami? When Braun left Miami, you had Bosh, but you still had, I mean, they still had the floor a little bit with Haslam, right? Where Haslam was sitting there shooting a 16, 17-footer. Probably... I think when Steph won that first championship, it came and gave it an idea of this is success. We can be successful with the small man lineup, but I think around 18, 19, where it became a whole thing where this is going to be the new wave. Because when you think about all the Euro guys who are spanning the floor, they... I

mean, Jokic is probably... Jokic and Giannis is the oldest Euro player, so this is within the last five, six years. So when they came in, like like for Zingas like rookie for Zika for Zingas name when you start getting these 610 like like when people talk about to Tony Koo coach They were just sprinkles of the ideal of the guys, but he was like Nah, this is because they're look at him. They're all six to even a small force. They're all marketing them. They're all 610 610 61110". 6'10", 6'11". Fucking Lucas 6'9". Right? You know, they got him at 6'7".

Yeah, that was when he was 18 with shoes off. Right? So these guys are coming in big so they can play the five man and still be a real three or four. You know what I mean? So now you still keep the height. Right? So now you have

a whole bunch of damn near KD type of players. Winby coming in, right? You know what I mean? These are the type of players that's coming in now where Winby's, when you're creating your Winby, right? You're looking at 6'10", 7-footer who can dribble, who can shoot, still play defense. The Chet Holmgren, like this is the new wave. You can't take it back. You can't, still play defense, the Chet Holmgren, like this is the new wave, you can't take it back. You can't take it, you can't erase it.

So point guard's gonna be like what, 6'6", 6'7"? Yes. If you can't- Oh, you weren't here for the show, we did, I broke it down. If you can't shoot in the NBA, you ain't gonna be able to get drafted at this point. So your point guard is, so Shea's 6'7's Shea, Luka, right? Mm-hmm. That's Devin Booker. Going to have to be that size to be able to score it that way.

Your two-man going to have to be Paul George. Kevin Durant. Like, your three-man going to have to be Kevin Durant. When we chat, like, your four-man going to be... So, just... There's one. To be honest, it's like just... There's going to be a dickhead coach out there

that's going to have a lineup, and that motherfucker going to be like, 7'5", 7'2", 7'6", 6'9". There's going to be a team out there that's just going to sit there and just... What you going to do? All five shoot, pick and roll, lob, lob, lob. It's going to be... Watch.

So smart. Because I know, I guarantee you, if I had a job that's gonna be my lineup every day we are a day closer to realizing the dream of all seven foot starting lineup yeah I'll be looking at them small guys ages I'll be looking at some of the guys who who that but they age I'd be like boy y'all on the clock it's new breeding grounds all right I mean like when you look at the meelo and them, right? Yeah. All this, they're 6'7". 6'7", no. The idea of 6'4".

Damn, 6'7 at the one. I came in 6'1". That's what I'm saying. Like, John Morant. As special as you was. These are going to be, like, these are going to be, like, rarities.

Yeah. That 6'4", that 6'4", better have a 44-inch vertical coming in. Other than that, man, everybody going to be, that point guard position is going to be 6'6 and above. And that 6'6 dude better be athletic as shit. I mean, you got Shea 6'6 right now.

Without shoes. With a 7-foot wingspan is my point, though. But when I say 6'6, think about what I'm saying. 6'6 is without his shoes on. So he's sitting at about 6'7 and a half, 6'8 playing. So the average. And you wonder why they post it up. The average NBA height of a player for this season is 6'6 and a half.

Nuggets have the highest average at 6'8. So just imagine if we can get being Sims to fall in love with basketball But you know, what's so funny? They do one two three four and and that's why and not what what when you think about why his teammates Get a little frustrated with him because he is that next generation He is the next like you are all of 610 vision He is the next like you are all of 610 vision You can you come downhill you can dribble you do fan you defend like you have every tool to have changed

Change the game Right 16 that now when people start looking what you think they looking for Shit, we won't him that George tight man, but I think he wanted to be magic too much Michael oh in the summer the triple-double you're in your adult and in the summer all he had to do just work on a jumper That's it. Just that I would have been telling the fuck fuck anything else. You know, we're just jump We just gonna shoot nothing but jump shots all day pull up jump shots jump shot you in fuck a conditioning drill Jumpers jumpers jumpers jump. That's it. Just get this you you this one thing you need

Changes your whole legacy just a jumper. I don't give a fuck about nothing Well, I don't need you had no post-up move. We can work about that in year 10 Are your kid better come and move forward. Your kid can jump over the motherfucking rim. If you don't have a jumper moving forward,

forget about it. Forget about it. Y'all saw that little one that just walked in here? Five. Putting the ball in his hand. Just hit that. This is ice cream, sir. I just walked in here. Mm-hmm. You're five. You know putting the ball in his hand. Yeah, just hit there Yeah, this is ice cream When his ice cream give me give me 20 we shoot that

It'd be six in a couple weeks like even the kid up Wagner was a friend They play him at the shooting guard sometimes at 610. Yeah Like they could put a big-ass line about their him and power. I'm talking this is I mean, I'm this is a real story This is how this shit went down man. We in Sacramento We in Sacramento warming up, you know, it's that sorry. So we've been teaching them in right Came out starting five boom doing my little routine and then I came out there this fire hey coach who I got Evans fuck is Evans sorry Sorry looking at you Yeah

Hey, oh nah, where's a shooting guard at? Dante green at 610. Yeah, who the three? Right. It was a foreigner. I'm like, oh The other rookie for you, yeah, what the fuck you eating bro, like I'm sitting here I'm looking at a line of like ye You goddamn six eight six ten at the shooting guard the Omar Casper. Yeah, Omar Casper. Yep Yeah, that was the one the one two three. Yeah, and I'm sitting here right like yo I don't know what you do first play the game. They gonna put me in a post. Oh, no, I'm not this

And that was I seen I seen like yo, this is it this is this is these are the new lineups Yeah, but obviously they didn't know what they had Then game changing Obviously, they didn't know what they had. Game's changing. So, speaking of the game changing, you guys talked about Wimby and Chet. On Thursday, Wimby shut down any debate over the rookie of the year. Facing redshirt rookie Chet Homer for the third time this season. So, we got the highlights. Wimby dropped 28-13 boards. Ain't nobody down.

Seven dimes, five blocks in the wind. Yeah, I mean. Big- ass giraffe. He's out there cooking. But as I mentioned, 28 points, 13 boards. Seven dimes, five blocks in the wind. You got to give him love to chat too, but not on this play. Hit him with the step back. It wouldn't be step four. He ain't used to that. I mean, you got a 7'1 dude going against a 7'4 dude. Hey, just hit him with a step back to begin with, and then we'll be able to make up that ground and block that shot.

It's wild shit just even being in this time watching this type of stuff. Daddy always said, or your mama always said, there's always someone big and strong out there. But Chad did have 23-7 and five assists in the game. So, Wimby followed that up, though, with 31-12 rebounds, six assists, six blocks, and a win over the Pacers on Sunday. So, only three rookies in NBA history have posted a 30-10, five assists, five block game. David Robinson did it twice.

Tim Duncan and Victor Wimby-Nyama. So, basically all the Spurs. Yeah. All the Spurs. All the Spurs. Okay. Yeah. Looking at their stats. Knock this one off. So Wimby's been making history, but Chet has as well. A home run is the first player ever with 150 blocks, 150 assists, 100 made three pointers

in a season in NBA history. He did that in only 57 games. Wimby is eight threes away from joining Holmgren in that club. But what are Chet and Wimby showing us about the future of bigs in the league and the skill set that they need to possess? We just talked about it. They're showing us the future of the NBA. It's going to be a great battle.

Yeah. That's going to be a great battle. If they can both stay healthy. I'm telling you. You know why it ain't? Because what makes Chet special, it's he has that advantage over everyone but him. Right?

That step back works on the other 448 players, y'all. Right? The only player they don't work on is the dude he's going to be compared to moving forward. He slipped a little bit. Huh? He slipped a little bit.

I know, but you know what I mean? It's like, dude, you're supposed to be top dog and all that, and you got someone that comes in at the same time as you. It's like, it's like, it's bird and magic, right right but they both play the same

position at this point and it's like the four games out of the year you got someone who can block your shot you know I fuck on a step back I mean just seven foot step back gets blocked yeah well said that's just chat we're gonna be at the one in the future like that's like chat at the one right in the future I mean you know how I mean there's gonna be some point where, that's just Chet. We're gonna be at the one Well in the future like that's like Chet at the one right in the future I mean you know how I mean there's gonna be some point where these mother's just bringing the ball down the court All seven foot starting five seven foot. They're gonna be coming down like yo, yo get out the way I think I have to find some small I got him. I can't let all the smart guard like like they can't let all the small guards go

For marketing everybody want to be No I mean You know it's going to be You're going to still have your balance Of there's going to be some exceptions to the rules Where you're going to have But those guards are going to be 6'8, 6'9 They're still selling shoes

Yeah Is anybody buying a pair of Wimby's? No Are you going to rock some Wimby's? Anybody buying them big-ass boots? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mean it like that. I know they're going to be in smaller sizes.

We know they're going to be in smaller sizes. That's hard for big man to show shoes. But the idea, that's what the kid says. I'm not buying them big-ass shoes. He got 22s on. No, and them were in your size. It's going to be in your size, sir. So, Gil, you like to that that big man can't sell shoes

But that feels like it was the big men of old like the Patrick unions and teams That that style of big man with these guys with the guard skills that they have be able to move product Yeah, yeah Cuz I was gonna I was I was going to I was gonna take my son to go buy some yokage because they back-to-back MVPs and then back-to-back MVPs. Right? Them back-to-back MVPs. Where they selling them joints at? Do they got a pair of Jokic? Serbia and Full Lock.

Do they got a pair? These are big. Do they got a pair of MBs out there? Where them MBs at? Catchers, Gil, show some respect. How they doing? Why Nike didn't come? Because, you know, B, forward thing.

He says, Catchers is the brand of the future. Yeah, just, you got to have a game for it. Like, you're selling to kids Right. There's no kids out there that think they're big men yet, right all of You hear big man he taller than everybody mad that he defy man long man He got on the coals he's trying to wear eight right five somebody he got that all big man man they don't want them double digits number five he couldn't get eight because somebody met like that's that's it right you

know kids you're selling to kids your product is right? So you have to really think that height. Everybody's damn near 5'5 and above. AAU teams, man, that's who's selling all your shoes. So all those kids are all guards. Yeah. You know, so it's hard to really sell to these kids, that's who you play like. But when we look at these dudes,

we know back when we were coming up, like, what seven footers were. Of course, there were some anomalies. But is this the norm now for what you have to be as a seven footer to get to the league? Yeah. Skill set, man. You gotta have a skill. You gotta have a skill, man. You just can't be big anymore.

Like you used to. You'd be seven foot and it was pretty much if you can walk and chew gum and you're seven foot and budge, you had a job. Just look at the history of the game, though. How many seven foot guys you look at, you go back and look at them, damn, he was bad. Damn!

He got how much? Even that Orlando Shaq, that Orlando Shaq was different, right? Agile, fast as fuck. Hitting the rebound, pushing it. Yeah. You know, that's what made me like, oh, shit, Shaq. You know what I mean? Imagine him running downhill at you.

Yep. Man, you fucking... Hakeem, right? He had something that was just so different, right? Got all the moves, had all the guard moves. Ah, ah, ah. Yeah. So, in your guys' opinion,

would the traditional center ever make a comeback, or is it on the verge of extinction? Like, will we see another Shaq-like player be able to dominate in this league? Only a Shaq-like player. Like, he has to be big, really athletic and agile, and he's putting so much pressure

on the back line where you're sitting there trying to figure out... It's going to be one year where they're going to be like, we don't care. And then he's sitting there dunking and dunking

and dunking and dunking and dunking. And he making free throws. And he making free throws. For us to... Because you got to remember, he has to be so dominant where everyone has to change their lineups

for the person. Like, you know, being, because everybody's thin now, right? So even what you put in Shaq out there, in today's game, yes, he will dominate. But the question was going to be how many teams are going to change your lineup right because okay you know what i mean like how many teams are going to change your lineup to stop you as long as i have to take away my skinny five

okay then cool but if i got a skinny five that i don't pass the ball to then yeah i'm like all, I don't need him. Let's get some meat down here. As Dominic Hills be on the offensive end, now when you space that floor on the deep end. But that's what I'm saying. So I'm going to have to say, all right, my five man now has to be averaging 20 to 30

for him to be on the floor with someone like Shaq. Because Shaq is going to get all of 35, 45. So if he's not balanced enough, I'm going to give him the ball three, four times. Like, nah, he ain't worth being on the floor. It's a wild time in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association. But making the transition to the league

is difficult for any player. When asked about the hardest adjustment he's had to make playing in the league, Wimby had this to say. The hardest battle isn't the physical one. It's more mentally, you know, going into court every night and fighting for your team, fighting because somebody else in front of you wants to kill you, to dunk on you all night, you know,

and fighting because we got a lot of progress to do and, you know, it's hard to apply what the coach says, you know, and this is, I think, this is probably the thing that surprised me, how this is the hardest battle and not the physical one. So, I got a former number one overall pick here on this couch, former number 10 overall pick in this couch. You guys were expected to come in, contribute right away. So do you agree or disagree with Wimby saying the mental is harder than the physical as

it were? Yeah. Mental. For me it was. For going to Europe and not playing and then just getting thrown out there and having to show up every night. And then, you know, scowls on my head and just the traveling and the wear and tear on my bodies and just having to put all the weight on your shoulders. So, I think, yeah, that was a lot for me in the beginning.

And you mentioned you didn't play that much when you went over to Italy, right? Yeah. But how much is being around in a pro organization, being around grown-ass men, having to battle them in practice, do you feel like benefited you coming to the league? Yeah, that part was great. Just off the fact that I had a year just to mature and see how things are ran. Going to practice every day. In Europe, we only played the game like twice. So throughout those other days, we just had practice.

So I was able to work out and actually really get in the gym and work on my craft. So do you agree or disagree with Wimby saying the mental is harder than the physical as a rookie? Yeah, because you know how you possess, when you've worked at it and you possess certain skill set and he's a freak of nature and his skill set is that. Physically, for him, this is easy.

Right? No one can match up. Yeah, just getting used to it, being away from home for the first time for this extended period of time and having the target on your back as the number one pick, all the attention. Yeah, so I can see how that can get to them, having that adjustment. Before you fit in with where you were, now you stand out. Because you're in a small market in San Antonio, for one. It's like a fish in a glass bowl.

Everybody's... It's that. It's that attention. Yeah. Right? So... Yeah, right so Yeah, and then just the pressures of having to go out and perform Because he sees how the media can turn on people and turn on you in an instant, so you worried about that and You worried about How your teammates feel about you

or the attention that you're getting. I'm pretty sure all those things are thoughts. He's young. He's fragile. So I would definitely agree with him in that aspect. Being the number one pick, you're expected to play well. Like, I ain't going gonna say that's a little great in the beginning, but you're expected to play well.

That year. That year. That's just the expectation that comes with that. So, but yeah, no, the mental part of it was it's always an adjustment. Yeah, just like for myself, I came from college for four years, so it was a different environment that he came from, but it's still an adjustment. For sure. Obviously, you had a different road, being a second-round pick, not playing that much

early in your rookie year, but do you agree or disagree with what Wimby is saying, and how much, from your standpoint, did the mental start to get you obviously going from playing, starting at Arizona, playing the bulk of the game, to now you thrust into the league, kind of waiting for your moment? Like I know, you know, everyone, we had this like, the calculation was it used to be what, 80-20? It's 80% mental, 20% physical. It's more like what, 90, 10, right? If you're skilled and gifted, once you find the rhythm of how the game is moving, your attributes kick in.

It's more of a mental battle because one, you have money for the first time. That was an in factor when you was in college or high school with him overseas. You're trying to be a young adult. Some of these guys are trying to be kids and trying to be a professional. Home away from your home. You're away from home for the first time.

Now you have fucking chores. Shit they tried to make you do when you was younger, but they did it for you. So now you're on your own for the most part. It's just life. You're responsible for yourself for the first

time in your life once you become a pro. And if you haven't been instilled with real responsibilities, you know, it can get the best of you. And then that's just that part of life. Now that the basketball side of it, you know, being told to do things that you've never done before, right. Being told, this is the style we're going to have you play when that ain't your style for the most part. Wanting to do more when they're trying to baby walk you. You know, so it's more of a real mental battle

the first year versus the physical. Like most guys, you know, the physical adjustment is within what, the first month? It's like training camp to me. Training camp was the most physical to me. I'm pretty sure you was physically... I was ready, but this shit different though. There's nothing... There's no physicality for him to have to adjust to nowadays.

The game is wide open for his skill set, right? Yeah. So the league is in trouble. Like, he's figuring it out. Yeah. In real time, man. Before our eyes, these last eight games for the rest of this season is going to look like this. Right. Remember summer league.

Summer league, we're like, ooh, they looking rough for him. Right. So he's figuring it out because, like like the space and the movement to buy like he was like he's figuring it out and Yeah Well, they gonna you know, every time I get it they gonna try to push they're gonna try to push me off Okay, I'm a spin like you know, I mean you pick it up in real time. But from there, it's just traveling friends media Like it there's there's so much more that plays a role, especially into, you know, someone's life like that.

You know, when you're the number one pick, your responsibility is way more than damn near the whole team combined. Right? When you're talking about, like, after game, media, nigga, they want to talk to you. You. They here to you. You. They here for you. They just sitting around. Yeah, so how was the game? All right, good thought.

And then they're going to run over there. Like, you ain't even, yeah, so long. When he's ready to talk, everybody walks the fuck off. You're like, fuck, am I chopped liver? Right? It's the worst.

You've never experienced that. Hey. Yeah, that feeling now when everybody, she get was ready to talk and everybody walks off like, yo. Oh, that'd be the funniest shit, dog. Right, because they... You got one that stay...

Yeah, because if you're in the shower or something, the stars in the shower or something, you know, media come in, you know, they're going to start looking around first. They're going to be like, all right, uh, hey, so you don't look like you've been talking for a while.

So, um, yeah, how do you feel about today? Oh, hey, and gone. Fuck what you talking about. I don't give a fuck what you talking about, man. You sitting there like, uh. Yeah. All right. Yeah, and then his teammates start to resent you in a way, right?

Yeah. So he has that to deal with. And it could be the pressure of the culture of the Spurs, the winning. Like with Tim Duncan and them trying to bring a championship to that city. He's in the perfect place now. Yeah, I mean, but yeah. You know, he's still got some... He's allowed to eat into it now, but I feel like as the years go on,

there is that expectation. There's going to be that. Look at Klay. Right? You know, when we talk about mental, like, look at Klay, look at Westbrook when he came to the Clippers, man, right? The expectation of them, and they vets.

They in the game, veterans. And, you know, the mental's gotten the best of them for they vets they in the game veterans and you know the mental has gotten the best of them for a season right we're looking at we're looking at clay in real time it ain't got nothing to do with his this shot right this is all this is mental he's losing the mental battle right now trying to figure out you know if he still has it when you start questioning yourself, you know I still for time at my you know, I'm I starting warm a bench player now Is there are you start really sitting home with your thoughts? Right ain't no swag they ain't no swag in this game, but they know how many beers has he cracked this season and How many of those has he has he done right that Riding in there with his bike and the little stuff.

We used to be on the boat. Yeah. Different. He don't feel good no more. Yeah. So is there ever a point in your career where the physical becomes harder than the mental? When the mental gone, everything, yeah, that physical.

Trust me, when I wasn't scoring scoring. Oh my knee hurt the most Oh Probably got 70 CC's in here in here doc Five yeah, I don't put an extra 65 CC's in my knee just cuz of the mental when when you playing well trust me Yep, they need ice that day Going home feeling good a minute. It's when when your mental going trust me, didn't eat ice that day. Going home feeling good. When your mental gone, trust me, you start feeling everything.

You start making up injuries, dog. Ooh, pow. Your game was good. I had a little back sprain. A little calf. Look at what it's growing. A little growing sprain. You start really, you know, your second guess man it's all it's all mental you mentally strong man it can

it can push you through dark real dark days a lot of dark days so just kind of going back if you guys can all put yourself back in your your rookie mindset and what that was like obviously canyon and gill you guys both coming from yourself back in your rookie mindset and what that was like obviously Canyon and Gil you guys Both coming from college Brandon you come from overseas playing professionally How much information is getting thrown at you in terms of play set strategy and terminology on offense and defense? And how quickly were you able to absorb it all? Well, I was easy for me People don't know this. I'm smart as shit. Let's just come to that. Give me a math problem now, not so much.

But from a basketball... Basketball, IQ standpoint, yeah, I'm... Is that something you just had in you Did you develop it as this and that because you just look at college programs and I imagine the leap from a college program to an NBA team Is drastic just in terms of understanding all that stuff, which isn't when you're in tune to it man, and it means something. Mm-hmm Let you pay attention detail. I didn't know that of course I'm older now. I understand it about myself now. I'm like detailed about certain, so, but basketball now, I just was in tune to everything that was going on. Like I'm watching play calls, I'm watching Tennessee, I'm just watching it all.

So them switching coverages during the game, calling out these plays, I didn't miss a beat from, because had responsibility like when I was in college I wasn't started three of my four years then then coming from my senior like I had responsibilities like on the defensive end so and offensive end of course but you know everybody needed to be and guys out of place being able to tell them that you're in the wrong spot And now I've never played that position So yeah, it was easy for me Right how about for you? So yeah for me? It was easy too because I came from Europe

So you know the same game adjustments and the film and all the you know how to get prepared for a game Against you know the professional athletes was Was a kind of little easier for me when I came in, like reading the scouting report and understanding certain things. So I think that time in Europe really helped me and developed my IQ and things for the game. In terms of playing overseas, the language barrier, were they giving you scouting reports in English

when you were breaking down film, or was it kind of just getting where you fit? No, it was English. Ours was English. It was like three English papers, and then everybody else had the time. They got the it's alright Yeah, but I mean a lot of the players they spoke English to a lot of them So it was cool, you know But a lot of film man a lot of a lot of film work and a lot of Just on the court work to details of like how to get over to pick row. That's why I did so well

And in my draft workouts, that's why I was so like advanced because every day every day had to do pick and roll. That's why I did so well in my draft workouts. That's why I was so advanced because every day, every day I had to do pick and rolls. I had to learn different situations. It was good. Mine was the only adjustment I had to make was going back to the point guard position.

When it came to defense and I went to Arizona. No study. We were doing... No, we were doing pro... Everything was pro sets. So most of our offense was pro sets, so turns, pistol action. When we came in, that was the pistol action type stuff. So that was the easy concepts of defense.

The biggest adjustment... It will be harder, I guess, coming from high school to the pros because, you know, high school is more zones and, you know, there's really no plays called. Exactly. Right? When you go to the NBA, you know, you got to understand plays and the names of the plays. So for the most part, back when we played, most plays were the same besides when we did Princeton. Most of everyone's sets is the same. It's just learning what the names are. That's really the only thing. And then defensive concepts like blacking

it, bluing it, pushing it down. All you do is just figuring out, okay, all right, blue. What's y'all blue? Okay, y'all blue is our black All right, and then you know some marriages, you know, just name-calling So what ends up happening is when you get a new guy on there and you say something he'll do it But to him it might have been something else. So, you know, he blacked it when it was supposed to be a blue, you know so, you know, that's why it's easy for someone to get treated and they be put in the game and then It looked like he'd been at a whole be put in the game and then it'd look like he'd been there the whole time.

Especially on the defensive end. He's like, damn, he just got there. He's just looking at it like, alright, so this is, okay, so we both got blue, we got, and then when a coach is there, when he's in the game, they're going to call sets that he knows and he can pick up really easy. Yeah, I think about Dinwiddie coming over to the Lakers those first couple games, just having to adjust. Yeah, all you do is just say, you know, offense, go in the corner.

You do shit like that. Just go in the corner in offense. Just go in the corner. You good to go. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. During the interview with the— But there's still some dumbass motherfuckers out there. Yeah, there is.

Turn five, right? You're going to come off brush and then run right over there. All right, you're going to. And then go back. Like, oh, my God. Go to the same side corner. Same side corner. Like, bitch, you bitch. You bitch.

Pop up to the wing trying to get the catch. Like, no, that wasn't the play. That wasn't the play, dog. It's a learning process. With this motherfucker sitting right here. No, you're supposed to be the one. Oh, come on, coach. So during the interview with the Ringers, Ryan rusillo andre iguodala was asked who does

he fear more in the basketball court kairi or steph and had this to say tie game playoffs who are you most scared of kairi irvin is not even close whoa so wait you're going with kairi now over everybody we've talked about for the last second second shot, I'm going with Kyrie. You're talking about fear factor at any given moment or for like that moment, Kyrie. Because I mean, with Steph, I think he's shown, he's proven to teams that you can double him. And if you could just try to get the ball out of his hands, then I guess that's the way to combat him.

But with Kyrie, he's just so good. Like he's able to, you can't get the ball out of his hands. Do you guys agree with Iggy, disagree with Iggy? He played with him, so I'm, you know what I mean? I got to take his word for it, shit. No. I mean, Ky is a good, I mean, fuck. What are you talking about?

You just said last second shot? Yeah. Last second shot. Like you up there, like you at the top by yourself. You at the top by yourself? Yeah, I'd be scared more of Kyrie. I'd be scared. I'd be scared of him.

Yeah. I mean, Steph will pull it in, like just pull it in your face. Kai, he going to size you up and yeah. Wardell. You were Kyrie, guys, so you said... I'm just at that ball at the end of the game, man. I just think he always got a chance, man. Wardell. You were Kyrie Gossett. You said... I'm just at that ball at the end of the game, man.

I just think he always got a chance, man. Like, I don't... Wardell. Man of terrorists. A sniper at his best. They both scared. They both scared. They both.

They both, but yeah. Good luck. You know the problem with... They both scared. They both scared. They both. They both, but yeah. Good luck. You know the problem with, when you think about Steph and the idea, it's not his fault, but, you know, during most of his career,

that early part of that dangerous, even we're still dealing with a dangerous Steph, he was blowing people out to the point where them game winners and those, he didn't, you know what I mean? He didn't, like, as great of a shooter and deadly shooter he is, there was a three, four-year period where he didn't even, he wasn't even in a game, let alone taking those shots because he was, ooh, bottle flipping, shoot. He done third quarter you. He done got you out in on third quarter you he done got you out in the third court to the point where he wasn't even coming down hitting shots that for us to have that in our brain like you know when we think about you know game winners we're gonna put stephanie because he's the best shooter

of all time but when you really have to sit there say all right with the last second on the shot and now you want to think about our who his game winners and step won't come in there because he's never had to do them because he doesn't fucking blow you out You did the last I think the more the one that's known is the one. Okay. Okay. See that. Yeah That's the only one that comes to you every time But there was a point during that Warriors dynasty right team be up 20 25 third quarter. Yeah Yeah, few minutes left to go in the third day. That what I said. It's like now we're seeing him take those meaningful shots. Now he's getting his resume now.

Yeah. Twilight of his career bananas. So we talk about Kyrie. We all remember the three in 2016, the go-ahead three, to help the Cavs win their first championship in franchise history. But where does Kyrie's three against the Warriors in game seven of the 2016 NBA Finals rank amongst the most clutch moments in postseason history?

You ain't going to put a video up there so we can see? You are a basketball scholar. That was a 73-9 team, right? So we got MJ against Utah, obviously. But I'm just saying that the chat don't know. The chat knows everything. No, they don't.

Chat don't know. No, they don't. You got MJ against Utah. Bronze block. Ray Allen shot. How LeBron's block don't go into game when big shots? Ray Allen. Clutch moments.

Oh, you said clutch moments? Clutch moments. Ray Allen. I mean, that shot is huge, man. Shit, Ray Allen clutch moments I use that close moments touch moment Ray Allen I mean that shot is huge man shit Ray Allen Sean Elliott Sean Elliott oh yeah Sean Elliott's too no oh yeah on the side yeah tiptoe yeah yeah that's I guess clutch moments I guess clutch moments will have to be something that playoffs. That is in there, bro. I mean, clutch is something that's what?

Tying it at the moment when you need it to win. Right? So that's. I mean, Kyrie hit that shot. It was game tied. Yeah, game tied. But they still had another. I mean, you're talking shot. It was game time You're talking about like the rate hmm

Ray Allen needed he'd need they needed that shot. Absolutely. I mean, you know, that's and I just go back even when I'm looking at 2016 73 and 9 Warriors right 3-1 lead you do all this work to come back force a game 7 Find yourself in the opportunistic point late in that game tied at 89 They kind of gone back and forth a few times nobody get a bucket then kai reed just yeah that was a dagger that's more of a dagger that's a dagger versus ray i want to say at home at home down three half the fucking arena left yeah yeah have the arena left and boom oh shit, shit. I mean, all of them has its... Pick one. I'm going to go with Ray because

the game was over. Kyrie, if he misses the shot, it's still a tight game. Yeah, for sure. The pressure is on the dude that that shot actually tied the game for them to go to overtime and win it in overtime. Oh, shit.

The koala in the shot in the corner. Beat the Sixers. The bounce, bounce. They was up. What, they were down? Game seven, right? Yeah, it was game. I'm about to say that one.

Yeah. Were they down? I think they were down one. Yeah, whatever it was. Or tied. They were down or tied. See, the tied one was like, because I've hit game winners and stuff. There's no pressure when it's tied I'm just be honest right it's it's it's it's we're going overtime worst-case scenario

I'm going to overtime so I feel the most confident in because there's no pressure on it Yeah, the pressures when you like you're down down one two three, right? So so yeah, so when I hit the when I when I miss two, three, right? So, yeah, so when I hit the, when I missed the free throws, right, the biggest shot was the shot that get us there, right? Because we were down three. So, three, two, and I caught it, and, you know, that was, everything else is, you know, it's, you know, it's a tight game high game you know it ain't really ain't no pressure motherfucker yeah we go over time fuck off fucking jack off

a little pressure you gotta you still gotta make it yeah but if not it is if if not there's nobody upset right there's nobody damn dog all right man i was open in the corner or something there's none of that. It's overtime. All right, we're going to get him in overtime. So what about Magic Hookshot? Game six? Or in the garden?

Again, how do you win the final? I'm going to just ask. I'm going to just ask. Was he supposed to win that finals MVP? It's rookie season? Yeah. I think Kareem got hurt. Kareem got hurt?

Yeah, Kareem got hurt one game. Yeah. The game they had won, right? Yeah. Did you see Kareem's stats for that series? What? For the series? What about the clinch?

No, no, do you see that man's stats for the... I did. So if you look at his stats for the... Yeah, he missed one game. Cool. Do you see his stats for the series, though? In those five games, Kareem averaged 33 points, 14 rebounds, five blocks. Okay, yeah, we played six games, motherfucker,

but did you see my five? Did you see my five games? God damn it. Like, the reason we here is because of those five games. Damn, you averaged five blocks. You averaged five blocks. Like, I was sitting here like, hold on, man. Shit.

You know, that's a fair question. Right? That's like you sitting there like, all right, it's easy breezy, you know, that's a fair question. Yeah, right? That's like, you sitting there like, alright, it's easy breezy, you know, 33. Yeah. Magic averaged 22-11 in nine assists in six games. Huh? So, that was like, yeah.

I mean, I know that's what I said, it was... Including the 42-15 in seven and three steals. In the final, yeah. In game six. Yeah, that did it. And as I said, it was like, but you just look at it like. Yeah, the closeout game did it. Imagine when it had like 25 in that game, you feel like Kareem.

Yeah, there's something over here like, yeah. 42. Man, motherfucker got 33, 14, and five. Like, yeah. In a closeout game? I would hate that. I would hate that. Yeah.

I would hate that. I see why you hate that motherfucker the whole career. Like, you motherfucker. I would hate that. I see why you hate that motherfucker the whole career. You motherfucker. So, I mean, there's always the barbershop argument about who has the best handle. Iris and a white chocolate have their pick. So you think Kyrie has the best handles ever? Ever.

Wow. Ever. Ever? Who you think? I'm saying, I'm saying, like, with me. Yeah, with me, okay, I heard Rod Strickland on All the Smoke. And I love Rod Strickland too. He said, basically, he just go. Basically. Any direction.

He just go, basically. Any direction. He just go. Kyrie will have you beat and then bring it back and play with it. Like, he toy with people. You know what I mean? Like, he can still just go. You know what I mean? But if he feel like playing with you. Kyrie Irving's the best ever to me. Kyrie?

I agree. I love it. I agree with that. So we're going to start with our resident Kyrie fan, Mr. Kenyon Martin. Does Kyrie have the best handle, we'll say, in the modern NBA? Yeah, I'm trying to think who I didn't have it on the string the way he does. And Jason Williams, other than him, yeah. Any debate here from this couch?

No. Rafe Austin? Handle, see that's what I said, Handle and when we talk about, hear from this couch? Rafe Austin? See, that's what I said. Handle and when we talk about, I think people get confused with good dribblers, ball handlers, and handles. Two different things. Right? Like Chuck.

Right? He had they took the move away. The crossover. He just got to where he wanted to do. His dribbles was great enough to get to where he wanted to get to. Right? He wasn't sitting there trying to bop,

bop, bop, bop, bop. He was fast and quick and he just got there. Right? Jamal Crawford had a great handle. Jason Kidd was a good dribbler.

He didn't have handles right he's not sitting there trying to right sitting there and doing the same thing with Steve Nash they wasn't sitting there trying to do this right they just they just had a great handle of the ball right when you're talking about like moves with the ball when you're doing it you're talking about the Steve Francis. You're talking about Steve Francis. You're talking about No Nemesis. Moochie. Yeah, Moochie.

Mooch. Even for the most part, Mulberry didn't have a he didn't have handles. He just handled the ball good. Jamal Tinsley. Yeah, Jamal Tinsley had a great handle. He had a little handle. Yeah. Like, he had a little bit of both. But it was, you had a rare, like, Tim Hardaway, for the most part, he had that great move.

Blah, blah, blah. But he didn't do what Kyrie did. You know, you're talking about now Wardell, Curry got that. Chris Paul got that. CP. Yeah, CP. Like, oof. about now wardell curry got that chris paul got that cp yeah cp like ah because i said cp got yeah yeah yeah yeah like them like when they start doing all this shit here and throwing it between the legs getting it back here that's the that's when someone's using their handle to their advantage for the most part most people just got to where they were trying to

get to they were good and they dribble good enough to get where they wanted to Tariq Evans had handles to three head Evans that handle to you shit yeah six watching the game yesterday playing like Kyrie instincts is just like I think he's just next level the way he just processed shit in real time. Like, it was a loose ball. He couldn't beat the dude. Like, I think Buddy Hill was running up. He just threw the ball around him. Just ripped him off and got him.

I'm like, he processed it so fast. I was like, oh, yeah, this dude. Different. Like, how about, see, like, even somebody like Shea, right? I'm going to say, yeah, I'm about the same. He, like, he has a good dribble. Right? Same thing somebody like Shay, right? I'm not saying yeah, I was the same He he's like he has a good dribble By same thing with Luca right day. You're not sitting like oh He's these handles is amazing. Nah, they just can get to wherever they wanted to get to they can dribble great enough to

Like same thing with the John Wall. He didn't have a thousand moves. He just He's got that dribble them to just gonna get to where I need to get to so it's different people put some of these lineups together you're like now he he doesn't he's not a That's not he's you know, I mean, there's just there's this group. There's a rarity group and that's You know CP under that thing CP Curry mm-hmm Kyrie Kyrie Jamal Crawford absent where we where do you put your mall Crawford amongst that crew?

He top three yeah, he talks he knows the funny there's four of them they all top three. Yeah, he talks, you know, so funny. There's four of them. They all top three They all top three you can't use like one of those like you pick. Yeah, it's like guys However you everyone think however you wanted it said nobody's gonna argue the top three That's one of those no one's gonna argue who who you put top three in that So we're gonna guard. Yeah, I'm just thinking about, yeah. See, Peter made somebody touch earth before. A lot. And then that's what I said.

Steph made you touch earth. And then that's what I said. The five, my five will be, and then I will have Steve Francis in the top five. Okay. Like, even Jason Williams, he had a great handle. Like, he wasn't ripping that motherfucker. At all. But he wasn't.

His was more like, it was a weird flat. He had a different one. You can't even put him in there. He's like that hybrid. Right? Like the Pistol Pete. He's that. They're coming with the.

Jason Williams? Yeah, the white chocolate. Their trick bag was fucking unreal. So it made it look like he was, same thing with Riff Austin. They was tricky after they picked the ball up too, which made the whole. B, you got that thing on the string, B. It made the whole process look a little bit.

You got that, yeah. Thinking about something passing to you. Yeah, you got some. After you picked the ball up. You got some yes, you have to pick the ball ball up Yeah, you got some shit with you, bro. A little bit. So before we move on Had a true baby. Have that pick the team when Chuck made Antonio Daniel touch you? Yeah. I was in the corner.

Oh, my God. I did one of these. Ah, no thank you. Drop, drop. Ah! Yo. Touch it. Hey, man.

I'd be damned. I'd be in this highlight, too. That man touched Earth twice. That man touched Earth both hands. Yo. Yeah. That's bad. You out there doing a Humpty.pty and then obviously, you know our team

Yes You might want to take that number three. Oh You should have way from Cleveland just get hit with that in and out from the kid from the Knicks Oh, that was food. I was that all right. I haven't seen nothing like that in a minute Like that was no one doesn't know one deal that in and out man or raising Who I say that in and out as an in and out is a Very important move as a score. Yeah, cuz it dictates, you know, it makes him move I'm coming in if you lean with the ball

I get the goal, you know if you don't I can keep it cross if you catch it boom I can keep like you there's so many in and out is a great setup There's kid in half handle. No he had a fucking in and out that goddamn in and out running downhill at you good luck good No, it was cuz he's fast fast and he running at you in and out. He gonna boom And drop that bitch off he gonna you going to, hey, good luck stopping it. So before we move on, last week we talked about Iverson saying that he could average 43 in this current NBA. But, Brandon, we haven't had you here, so we need to know,

do you think that Allen Iverson could average 43 points in the NBA today? So him just playing today with the Sixers right now. Or his team that he played with. In this era. So take his old one team and put it in this era? No, no, no. Fuck that. No, you have to enhance it to damn near four and a half shooters.

I don't know, because nobody's doing it it now and we have a lot of great scores So like why would he just be able to score for it if Katie and Steph and none of these guys are doing Luca? They're not even averaging 45 like 43 like like Jake and then that I own me because oh, they're not trying to You don't think they trying no. No. No, he's trying he's trying to This is the difference about this Well, you don't think nobody no none of these cats in this area is trying to say averaging what 30 what 33 34 right now He's averaging 33 34. Hey, I was in place 132 now any plan 42 minutes. He's not passing the ball and he's fat. He's like your speed I mean, I love you if you got all shea shots doing the same thing with

The wood how fast you played they not they're playing at this this slow bot pace getting to the spot He's you know 31 yo 31 in 34 and a half minutes again 43 Like a 34 to have a think look how slow Luca plays the game. He's averaging 34 Now you're telling Iverson's nigga. They running to chest and he getting a little look off He ain't sitting here playing with the ball ever he catching that bit. They run him over him going this way He's going right. It's a guy. Do you think players today gonna let him even do that?

Like shoot that many times who what players yeah They shoot they lend everybody Like shoot that many times. Who? What players? Yeah. They let everybody else shoot that many times. So if he was on Philly, you think he... There's no Embiid? Yeah, him and... Yes. The reason I said it is the style. Right?

Think about it. Look how fast you play. Right? You played. Think about your speed and how you played and you just got to where you were going to. That put you in this era. Because you're talking about these guys are sitting here.

Yeah. You know what I mean? They're sitting here trying to yank you. They trying to make SportsCenter. Back then we just, we just- Yeah, you won downhill. Yeah. Won two downhill. Most.

At three, the best you doing three to downhill. You're not sitting there, boom, boom. I beat you. Oh shit, the best you're doing three to downhill. Like, you're not sitting there boom, boom. I beat you. Oh, shit, let me bring you back. I beat you this way. Oh, let me bring you back so I can sidestep through you.

Like, no, you going to mother... So, a guy like Monte Ellis too, then? Would you... I'm... I'm fast. I mean, see, but... Because now,

because now that I say it like that, it's like... See, that's the difference, right? Guys that can score not as I said like that is fine. I do see that's a difference right guys I can score they can score right? Yeah Chuck gonna at the trying to average right this is like he's attacking you at every possession There's no I'm coming down here. I beat you and I'm gonna kick that bitch to the corner You can be the best you can have Steve Novak over that bitch, Duncan Robinson, Joe Harris over that bitch. Bayou.

He ain't looking over that motherfucker at you. That's Eric Snow job. Again, Eric Snow. No, I'm just saying. His job is to pass and play. My job is to put this bitch in his basket. I'm trying to go out there and embarrass you. He's scoring 30 with a zone.

Zone, no shooters. So we all sitting there waiting for him. And everything's geared up for him. Two chests. All right, big man, listen, this is a two chest, so that means he's going, the point guard's going to dribble up, he's going to come off, take a screen, a screen, and then try to turn a corner. The last man automatically just sitting down there.

Fuck that. We just going. Because he's catching it going right. Yeah, because he's. They're running the same cuz he's running the same way. He's catching his go in and then another one like a I already went off He done backed up to cuz he know where I come in steel 43 though steel. He plans. I mean we it's gonna be it's gonna be near close He gonna it's gonna be about 39 or 4 because-4 because he ain't coming out of the game. Yeah.

And he ain't coming to the game, but his energy was like Westbrook. He not. Ain't no time to go get in foul trouble. Ain't none of that shit going on. What about the shooting percentage? The shooting percentage goes better because there's not two, three, four people down there that he's trying to score on. See, that 39% is on a zone Double team four dudes waiting for him and he's still getting that thing up now. You're talking about nobody there

She's floor. How many people are fast enough to even keep up with him as a guard today? Night I mean not on a nightly basis not like you're talking about like you I'm thinking just one person like KCP maybe run. No. No just to keep running. No Cuz run it defensively you gotta catch him me we running like here I got him but if he's running this do one of these I gotta stop my speed Well, you're talking about back then you talk about only a few dudes that can like physically keep up with him You talk about like a T.J. Ford, right? She's talking about a T.J. Ford. But me, Tony Parker, who was fast as hell,

he's still getting by us. Yeah, but then he got to guard... Yeah, he got to... No, he ain't guarding... No, he's going to guard... He'll guard Giddy, let Eric Snow guard Shea, and then this motherfucker

playing pass lane the whole time. And that's he averages two and a half, three steals. You don't even know where he at most of the time. You don't even know where he at most of the time, dog. No, that's a fact. That's a fact. He just roaming. He just roaming if he guards Giddey.

He just gonna average about two or three steals. Maybe five. He's sitting in the passer lane the whole time. He ain't. Long ass arms. But that's why we said we look at how the game is played and look at his advantage. Like, one, there's not even enough guards. Like, that's even fast enough to stay in front of him off his one move.

Because, remember, he's not sitting there bopping for you to sit there in the defense. He's getting going. If he got in the ball, he's going, has it cross or has it go? Come across that motherfucker and you don't go for he gonna go yeah he's going right it's what it is yo he's going right and everybody that played against him knew it he's going right yeah good luck good luck stopping him from getting there like that's that thing like you you know that you know where he going yeah, if you can't keep John Morant out the lane with the same one move,

AI 10 times faster and quicker. And he's little. That's what I was saying. When I mean little is them spaces. Right? Yeah, remember, like, think about today and fouling and stuff.

Oh, he's sitting 20 free throws. Yeah, no, he definitely is. As soon as you try to put a hand in any of this, oh, shit. Hey, that was 165 pounds soaking wet. If that. 165. Who's that small in the NBA? I don't even think he in the NBA. He ain't even in the NBA.

Who else do you think will score for you? Do you think Mike and Colt could? Yeah, they're trying to. Yeah. Trying to. Both. Tracy McGrady? Only because the reason it's a hesitant with Tracy because there's more

defenders that's just like him. Okay, right Right. He there's a bunch of kawaii's where he sit there and try that but you know We had some long news and he had 62 on us. So I'm gonna be like I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt because you know, we had Jared Jeffries trying to guard we put Brandon on his motherfucking ass. He... He still sat there.

There's only really a handful. There's only a handful. What do you think about Young Mello? Sorry. You think Young Mello would try to? Because he had no conscience, too. No, no.

Remember, the difference is these they shot faster than this group even though this group is scoring more it's faster so you're telling somebody like mellow who's one two dribble pull up well you're you're talking about guys who they're not they're not playing with the ball like the the Dev, but they're not weaving in and doing all that and wasting time doing, you know what I mean? It's give it to him, he go, pump fake, drive, go left, do his move, spin back, right? It's quicker buckets.

Right, it's like, because it's the spacing here. Now you have the best player with the ball and you can't even double that's the thing You can't help though. We should be sitting he got the ball We said to China sit boxing elbows if you got the ball at the top of the key Can't do that shit now That's why the percentage is when they blow he shot the 43% like oh I was getting doubled in triple team and you got this Like this Shaquille O'Neal back there with you know

The mean is fucking different like when Shaquille come out motherfucker Lonzo Lonzo morning coming in the game like ah damn Hmm, they're very different. You know, I mean, that's why percentages really don't matter. You know, you can you know But you know you telling Kobe when Kobe 81, do you see his lineup? There's no dude on the team that shot the ball past 17 feet. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's it. So much Parker had to want the two right at the,

he got three, you got three, four, five men. The best shooter was Luke Walton. If we can have somebody look it up with you in your spare time, just go look how many times during Chuck's career he shot the ball 30 plus times. Dudes ain't doing that shit. They're not going consistently night in, night out, night in, night out, night in, night out. Putting that bitch up 30 times a night. Hurting all.

Don't matter. Putting that bitch up 30 times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, however he feel, whatever. What's the fun in today's game? I think that would be the hardest thing, though, today. Like, they would, like, try to not let him play hurt. Yeah.

Because he played, like, you know, he played. Like, he always just fought through it. Like, that's why I was like They'll probably sitting down in this area. You probably take the hit he'd be having 40. He'd be taking 40 shots Because you got you got put more possession. There's more possessions in the game before him to shoot Yeah, he is putting that there's only a few but it's only a few like me. Yeah me maybe Maybe now you're gonna go up I was trying to get it you would try to go get a reason I wouldn't go that much because I

I was a free throw gambit my I like so if there's nobody out there for me to get free throws And I'm sitting a bunch of shooting a bunch of threes and stuff maybe 35 36 hmm And now I'm sitting a bunch of shooting a bunch of threes and stuff maybe 35 36 hmm That's good for me. That's the force. You're like you're right. I'm like I'm 40. Mmm. I mean I don't know Cuz I'm cuz I the reason I can't fathom is because I always had to do's that have average 20 with me so, you know, I got a steel taken for what they did so You know, so I would I wouldn So I wouldn't personally jump up as much because to me, I'm like, oh,

I could assist too, so you put me more shooters up, pick and roll, pass it, so I'll average more assists. So regular season only, Iverson had 98 games with 30 plus field goal attempts. That number went up in the playoffs, I guarantee. Hmm?

These motherfuckers shooting that bitch. Hell yeah, that's what I said. Shooting that bitch, man. Last thing we're going to hit quick before we get to mostly fans. During the Hawks' next game Saturday, referee Tony Brothers tried to have a conversation with DeJounte Murray. So we've got the clip. But Murray wasn't feeling it.

And Brothers decided to give him a tag for the disrespect. Murray so we've got the clip but Murray wasn't feeling it and brothers decided to give him a tank for the disrespect he was like oh I bet time we like all right bet watch Tony brothers lined up hilarious but after the game Dejounte offered this response to the tech on Twitter he said getting a tech because there was nothing to talk about is unbelievable with a plethora of laughing emojis and covering his face emojis. So on Sunday, the league announced that they were resending the tag. So shout out to DeJounte Murray for getting his bread back.

Did they rescind the point? Did they rescind the fucking free throw? I mean, how does that work? I think the money more important. Oh, hell no. Did they win or lose? That all... You're asking important questions.

Send the tech. Take that point off too. Whoever shot that motherfucker That tech was weak too. What was the score when they did it? What was the spread? What was the spread on the happened? What was the spread? What was the spread on the game?

What's the spread? I'm just saying though. But it all it all it all matters though. You know, I mean like probably cost some people some money I have some millions out here. What was the what was the score when that happened? Did that change the momentum? All right, fuck the little $500 you're giving me. Oh, no, they're more than $500 now. They're more than $500. They were down 17 four minutes ago in the game. Oh, the techs, right?

They're like $2,500. They're like $2,500 now, bro. Yeah, I'm going to say them boys are getting that money. Yeah, I'm $2,500 now. No kneecaps were broken. Okay, so, I mean, it didn't really affect shit. Okay. Yeah, but give me his money back, though. Because that was weak, though. You can't give. No kneecaps were broken. Okay, so, I mean, it didn't really affect shit. Okay. Yeah, but give me his money back, though.

Because that was weak, though. You can't give a man a tech of the hour. Because he don't want to talk to you. What the fuck? Like, that's weak, bro. Like, what type of shit is that? Holy, holy. So I might as well cut you out. Holy shit?

Right? No, definitely holy shit. I might as well cut you out. That's definitely some holy shit. That's why I told you they be, it's like dealing with the police, man. Like they have the same, they have the same mannerisms, right? If I don't want to talk to you, you want to, you take it personal. Like, no, do your job.

Like that, your job is to do this. Don't, you don't need to ask me questions, right? And if I don't want to talk to you, I don't want to answer your questions. Now you want to physically talking about what? Resisting the rest not cooperating with an officer or lawful lawful, you know bitch No, if I don't break a law technically that you can't do shit to me, right? That right, but they you but they try to use their power to do a whole bunch of shit. That's not part of this The playbook same thing with ref. There's some have this shit. You guys are doing that's this is not part of refereeing

Yeah, that was that was emotional shit Absolutely you want to talk to me? He hurt my feelings. Yeah technical you get out That's crazy. And if you say something, the league gonna fine you 50 grand, so watch your mouth. You know how much power that is, bro? That's a lot of... Say something.

Never mind. Tech anyway, goddammit. Well, first of all, what ref come to you when you sitting down in the huddle anyway? I ain't really seen... I ain't never seen that. You put that motherfucker in your mouth with me, man. Put some spit in it. Yeah. I'm going to tell you straight up.

I'm going to tell you straight up. Man, put some spit in it, dog. When you got with that, man, there's certain things, man, that's like, you can't give certain people power, man. It's just... Yeah.

This is true in all facets of life. You can't give everybody that the cold to the bank Said a vote. I'm sorry. You just can't everybody don't qualify for that vote. I don't need power You got a mother who all who can't pay their rent all every month I don't think you want to give him the access code to the bank They come up with a back on his child support, I don't think you want to give him an access code to the bank. Nigga motherfucker back on his child support. I don't think you want to give him. I don't think he need a business card. He don't need a business credit card.

No, seriously. Everybody does not give him a business card. Yeah, no, that was it. That was weak as shit, Tony, brother. So, Tony, get it together. Now, let's move on to Mostly Fans, presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not downloaded the Underdog Fantasy app, I don't know why you wouldn't have done so this far,

especially if you're a fan of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof, woof. Download the app, use promo code GIL, get that $100 first-time depositor match. NBA's a full swing. You got college basketball. You got a lot of things you can do higher lowers on they do best ball a lot of other things I'm not mentally equipped to handle those just yet Did y'all know that they don't have you looked only when that when in Bay?

NFL combine was going on that you can like pick on people's 40 times. I did not know that from our yes It was a real thing that you could pick on dog picked buy people's for the time whether it was gonna be faster or slower only for what again everything You know they got for they got first quarter stuff now. I love first. It's scary. I don't mess with that Yeah, the first quarter stuff. Oh, no first That's elite no yeah, cuz you can easily gauge like you know you just look at how much how much a person plays in the first Quarter yeah, so if you got like one and a half rebounds, he plays 12 minutes, I'm taking a high on that. Yeah.

Because 12, like you come out at the six-minute mark, oh, hell no. Yeah. You got to really know how many minutes that person averages in the first quarter. Yeah. It's definitely good for bigs. Like some people like average 10 for the game, 3.5. I took an entire rebound last night. He got that in the first quarter. Yeah, it's definitely good for bigs. Some people average 10 for the game, 3.5. I took the entire rebound last night. He got that in the first quarter. I always

say Suggs first quarter points. He's going to get off quick and then the rest of the game, he mid. Gil giving gems to all you underdog users out there. If you have not downloaded the app, use promo code GIL and gotten this free game and put it to use. I don't know what to tell you.

But our first question... That would have mellowed. Mellow first quarter? Holy shit! And this was like, this was a fan. This was real life. It was like Knicks.

It was like whoever first won the 20 points. They used to have that. Knick like whoever first won the 20 points. They used to have that. Nick, every time. Melo getting it. Melo team getting it 21st. Because Melo going to have about seven to nine in the first quarter every time. He always came out shooting.

You got to get his rhythm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He going to create his own rhythm. With or without play calls. Create his own rhythm with or without play call Create a little rhythm absolutely so our first question is from underdog user Dame dash one two six This is question is for you Gil who's the greater high school prospect you and your son Elijah him really easy easy Easy easy easy. You're kind of under the radar. I don't know why but Grand High School Today Cuz he taught cuz he taller I

Taller he has more hand away. We're way more don't wait. No, no, no, no, no, don't say that more reckless He would kick he I was all I saw him play against for I was faster and I shot the ball way better And took more shots less us No, no he take way more shots than I did Well, he wouldn't Get your son would dunk on you. No. No, that's fast He's a minister yes, He do some shit out there, I be like, ooh. He's a menace between the boys.

With the actual tennis shoes on. He put it together. Yeah, he put shit together, I be like, ooh. Did he just do that? Shout out to Elijah. He tried to dunk on the same dude like four or five times. He got it. Yeah, he kept trying.

And he coming down the lane, I be like, don't try it he go hurt and dudes like all right turns like put that shack on him he's that flow I like yeah you can't dump on the dude and then try to do it again you gotta be a complete dummy to think you gonna do it again he did it again so first when the kids jumping, but once you dunk on him, and he'd be like, oh, okay, next time he ain't going to jump. He just going to do the chuck. So, Kenyon, before we move on, you had a question earlier. So since MJ entered the league in 84-85, he has the most regular season games with 30 or more field goal attempts.

132, Kobe's got 109, AI's got 98. Yeah, AI's third. Other notables, Tracy McGrady was 63. Harden, 39. LeBron, 34. So next question from Underdog User. Nine. Big Shep, 62.

Do you think the Warriors' 73-9 record will ever be beaten? No. Nobody's going 74-8? No. Nah. No. No. Nah. No. No. No.

They talking about taking games out, so no. Games out, wrestling folks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not happening? Not happening. No. Okay, because your bench has to be great too, right? You know, as great as their starting lineup was you got to understand

for steph to sit out to sit out in fourth quarters and not even get back in a game there has to be some type of and their bench was crazy right you know you they you know when he went out they they was only up 10 now they have 20 you can't put them back in right they tie game by the time he's trying to get back in day up 17 so it's like I said you got to keep sitting so you know you got to have a Second unit that's very very good, too So not happening. No no unless unless and Clippers

Not no, no, there's too many. There's too many. There's too many super. Oh what I'm saying. This is too many super teams where I mean Let's say let's say let's say a star went to Boston next year And those guys are young enough to be dominant dominant for game by game. Yeah, Jason take me but they're gonna need another one Yeah, Tatum only 26. He's turned 26 on Sunday. Jalen Brown 27. But the answer's no. They care about their product too much to let it go

like that. Alright, so our last question is a video question from underdog user Primetime. Is it possible you guys can do the setting of your guys' show on a basketball court so you can actually physically show what you guys are talking about so people can understand and learn more

about basketball. Appreciate you guys. Joe, is it possible for you to... We're creating a concept, right? We're creating a concept called Free Game, where we're going to be doing

exactly that. I remember we was having that big debate about defense and offense and we wanted to get a five on five. We was going to play the offense. Keen was going to control the defense. We was going to show, he was going to show rotations. We was going to show offensively what we were looking for, but some of the staff, they had the day off, so we respected the time with the family.

Y'all better get your ass to work. But when the summer hits, when the summer know, it's offseason and everybody's here We're gonna do a lot more of like on the court stuff Okay, as you can see the gills arena Empire growing Some of you are hating a lot of your supporting We need to know me. Oh, we got give me the cue music This is the way to wrap it up music already. With a red light in the back of the comedy club. I see. This is the shit y'all be on, right?

Okay. Don't show up to work again. See what happens. See if your name don't get taken off that list. Red light is the smoke. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. But appreciate you, gentlemen, as always,

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