Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Luka & Siakam STEALING Game 2

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Luka Doncic & Pascal Siakam STEALING Game 2 of the NBA Playoffs as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down the BIG Performances from Luka Magic & Spicy P to capture a crucial victory in the NBA Playoffs for both the Dallas Mavericks & Indiana Pacers. They also discuss the Minnesota Timberwolves win over the Phoenix Suns despite an off night from superstar Anthony Edwards & debate what is going wrong for Kevin Durant, Devin Booker & The Phoenix Suns as they are struggling to deliver on lofty expectations. Finally, they touch on Giannis Antetokounmpo's impending return to the Milwaukee Bucks before breaking down the NBA's INFAMOUS anonymous player poll. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:09 Reggie Bush Gets His Heisman Back 0:06:13 The Athletic's Anonymous NBA Poll 0:20:36 Most Overrated Player Debate 0:38:40 Ant-Man Predicts The Future 1:00:23 What Did Wolves Prove In Game 2? 1:08:15 The Suns Can't Play Together 1:11:19 Will The Suns Figure it out? 1:26:41 The Play That Cost The Clippers 1:34:44 Luka's Defense Shines 1:45:25 Kawhi Rusty In Return 1:50:59 Siakam Is Finally Living Up To The Hype 2:01:42 Giannis Isnt Coming Back 2:12:16 What's Wrong With Haliburton? 2:12:37 MostlyFans 2:24:19 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Doing all right, doing all right. This is Gil Zerina, presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend, Gilbert Arenas, here with us. Hi. Gil, the chat has been noticing that you really upped the wardrobe in recent weeks. They want to know what's going on. I go in my closet. Just grab stuff.

He lying. He lying. He lying. Might be picking them outfits out. Go on. You pick your own outfits out? Yeah. He's his own stylist. I just never had nowhere to put Go on. You pick your own outfits out? Yeah. He's his own stylist. I just, I never had

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over the Clippers. We got to give Luka some love for his defense. And Pascal Siakam had another 30-piece for the Pacers to help them steal game two. But will the Bucs

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Oh, man, I was like Anthony Edwards out there. Boy, I was one for five. I ain't win either. They was good, too. They look good, too. It's playoff basketball. What did you pick Anthony Edwards to do? No, I didn't need him to do nothing. I had that kind of performance. It was rough. It was rough. Oh, It's playoff basketball. What did you think Anthony Edwards to do? No, I didn't hear him do nothing.

I had that kind of performance. It was rough. It was rough. Oh, it was rough. Yeah. Playoff basketball different, though. I'm finding out. Like, you got to go lower.

Every time he had the ball, he had two people on him immediately. Different. Man, I know people like, man. Jared Allen will get you good. No, I don't, I don't, I don't. You go over on him and rebound, gonna get you 15 tomorrow who Jared Allen Oh, okay. Yeah, Jared Allen get your rebounds everybody else move around move around

So we got some major news in the football world former USC running back Reggie Bush is getting his Heisman trophy back Always good to see it wrong. Get right it. The decision comes amid what the Heisman Trust calls enormous changes in the college football landscape, mainly players now being able to earn money through NIL. I feel like Johnny Manziel's doc had a little something to do with it because he was clocking Big Bread during his college football days and still got to keep his Heisman.

Signing autographs, slanging dope, doing a little bit of everything. Bush said his Heisman... Oh, my God. His shirt. Uh-oh. What are we doing? Relax, relax, relax. Let me see. Sergio Tichini is getting a little hot.

The Tichini. Tichini. God, please. The tachini. God, please. Hugs and courage and affection and devotion. Hugs and courage and affection and devotion. That's not the type of head I want. What do you mean? You just complain about how women don't care about y'all's feelings. That should be exactly what you want.

You're right. Did I say that? You said that. Okay, then I agree. Look, if. That should be exactly what you want. You're right. Did I say that? You said that. Okay, then I agree. Look, if you get one, you get the other. Okay. So you got to play the game right. Play the game right. I said he need head, and Reggie Bush said he need his husband trophy back.

We got to get something. Somebody got to get something. He gave it up? I wouldn't have, but I feel like he had to give it back or they take it from yeah They pulled up to the crib. You pulled up to my house to come get it You know you didn't what? You know me this wasn't the feds this who came to get it you don't know the NCAA defense Not the real one you can't put put me in jail for this, right?

Hey. Yeah, I don't want to know how that process went. No, they banned him from campus. They couldn't come back to campus. He had a mail-in back or something? Couldn't come back to campus. Okay, I can't come back to campus just like you can't come to my house. Seems like a fair trade.

Now he gets it back. So for those who don't remember, Bush had his Heisman forfeited in 2010 after the NCAA imposed sanctions on USC, which included Bush receiving improper benefits during his college career from 2003 to 05, where he was a member of two national championship teams at USC. So for those of you that don't remember what Reggie was doing on the field back in those days and how much money he was bringing to the school, nothing was improper about the benefits he was getting because he deserved his chips with dips. but when you guys

hear that reggie's getting his heisman back how do y'all feel i don't think he should have lost it in the first place because everyone from how i mean i mean college athletes for how long we've been living has been getting perks has been getting money has been getting whatever so to try to pull that move on someone it was it was dumb like you you know everyone has benefit from it so to take an award you might as well just take every heisman award you don't think the other heisman got benefits when they were playing of course they were the best player right so you could have literally just said, I'm taking every Heisman away from everyone because I know you guys took money.

So just to point him out was wrong. But I'm glad they've made that right. Let's see how you feel about Reggie Bush. Yeah, I mean, I agree. But it was like they were trying to make an example out of him and nothing changed. I would say everything got worse. So for them to take this long to right this wrong, changed, I would say everything got worse. So for them to take this long to right this wrong, I mean, that's kind of annoying, but

I'm glad that they're acknowledging that things are different now. I hope that they also come out and be like, you know, it was kind of harsh for us to do that, but they probably won't do that. I mean, but I'm happy for him. I'm really happy for him. I mean, they passed the NIL, right? The NIL's been around for a few years now. That's like all the niggas that got locked up for weed and then all of a sudden... Still, yeah, still injured. You know what I'm saying?

It's like the same thing. But to me, it's like, you can make this right. You got to make it right for Maurice Claret. Make it right for him. Y'all fucked his whole shit up. Him, man, it would be Mike Williams, too. Mike Williams, too. I mean, all the shit that y'all

if you're going to backtrack it, let's backtrack it. It's a lot of backtracking to do. Reparations check. See, that's the only, okay, now just like you said, that's the slippery slope. I don't like the, okay in theory, I don't like the idea of moving backwards

when something passes, right? So when these people, just let's say weed, whatever, it was illegal then, right? So what you did then was considered breaking the law, right? So you fast forward, it's illegal now. You can't go back and say, oh, everybody who broke the law then, it's legal now so you guys get out of jail. Because if you do that in everything in life, right, stuff that is legal today can be illegal tomorrow and they can backtrack it and you know what i mean i i just don't like

the idea that when something passes we move backwards because that can that can go bad for everyone my thing is the reason why though like why was weed legal then illegal was it was illegal because they wanted to put more niggas in jail. Right? That's pretty much everything in life. Because that was our element of professionalism. It was our way of selling narcotics and pharmaceutical shit without being actual experts in the field. We knew how to do this shit on this level.

It was a smaller level, right? So you look at all of the other situations in NCAA, the violations that happened, we didn't know about those violations. You didn't know that if you ate at somebody else's house or you took some lotion from somebody, that that would be a fucking violation. No, seriously, the smallest shit.

They wanted you to be ashy, Richard. They wanted you to be ashy. You couldn't take anything. Nothing. So if you think about all of the violations then, and people got penalized, and it fucked up their careers, to not be able to go back and write that wrong,

and I get what you're saying. So what would they do to write that? Because obviously they're like, okay, you get your trophy back. But they're not really doing anything else trophy back but like there's they're not like really doing anything else for the other guys that you're talking about what would like just them acknowledging that it was wrong because like so much time has passed money has been lost like yes money's been lost but not only the reputation restoration like Maurice Corrette suffered

because the path that he had to go down because Mm-hmm because he couldn't go to school He couldn't get no degree and then the destruction of the mental health going down those paths It's like my reputation is fucked everybody's looking at me like the bad guy When I did what everyone else was doing or trying to do so I'm not saying it needs to be a financial Reparation but it needs to be an acknowledgement that we fucked this up. See, but that's what I'm saying. When you retroactive something, right, everyone is going to... You have to think about the worst examples, right?

You can't look at anything for, like, Maurice... The NCAA filed them and the government filed them when they passed a law to say, yeah, you can go. And he enters and then they retract it. Right. That wrong should be fixed there. Right. Yes. What I'm saying now is when you pass a law today.

Right. You have to. OK, let's think about was what is it, the Bill Cosby situation. What happened back in the 50s and 60s that wasn't illegal by law. By law, it wasn't illegal what they were doing. Disco biscuits and taking Quaaludes, that was the party drug. Right? As time passed, right, new laws applied

and boom, boom, boom. So now people are like, oh, what happened to me? That is this? Okay. It was illegal. Okay, now I'm going to retro my claim and then go after. That's why I'm saying it's a very dangerous thing because what we think is cool today, drinking,

taking shots, there's states that says if you give a girl a shot, that's illegal. Yep. Right? If you give a girl a shot and have sex with her just one shot,

that's illegal. Right? So there's things that's been put into law that if you try to retroback it, everybody is jammed up. Everyone. So it's like,

there's some things you just can't retro. So you have to think about the worst case scenarios on everything. Right. The best case and the worst and see if and see where it lies then but so for me it's always a Reputation thing because that in our society. It's always about how people's

Perceiving you and if your perception is being tarnished based on some Fucking agreement with the NCAA saying that we want to outlaw this because we want to keep freshmen in school longer because he was that good as a freshman. And it's like, well, we need to put this in and hurry up because he made us so much money his freshman year. Imagine if we was to keep these motherfuckers in here longer and longer and longer and not allow them to move out

So, I mean I look at it like I've always been fighting against NCAA my whole thing Well, UNC was against it in C double-a. It was not against UNC I just had to use them as an example So using them as an example put us in a situation where it looked like it's me against them But my reputation is not restored because it also Helped move the NIL forward. Now we're moving towards a situation where every single university has to cover up their tracks about African-American studies courses and how you're pushing the needle academically. So now I look back and I say, well, if we were to retroactively move the needle around, people would start to get their restoration.

People would start to get their reputations restored because there was a lot of bullshit going on based on trying to get the university prestige and graduation rates up and having the coach look like he's all of this and all of that. Now, Reggie Bush, he gets his Heisman, but that's not equivalent to money, but it does restore his reputation that he didn't do it. But that's, I mean, I don't think they're, whatever somebody feels about you

is what they feel about you. Nothing changes people's opinion for the most part. But like somebody like Maurice, right, I think

he can go back and say, mock draft, I would have been top five, top ten. Whatever the pay was then, he should be able to receive that. That's what I'm on right there. That's what I'm on. It has nothing to do with, we can't say what team gives it to him, but there's a collective of everyone, right?

NCAA, they should be paying him that money. Because he didn't make it to the NFL because of something that was put in. It had nothing to do with him. You said, I'm free to go. Okay, I go. I get my agent. I'm getting ready for the draft. Then you say, take it back.

And then you say, well, you're ineligible because we said it was okay to go out there. Like, what? Fuck that. So wherever he was projected to go, I think that money should be given to him. Yes. What year did that happen? 2006, 5, 6. Yeah, right before.

It should be like 5, 6, right? Maybe 4. Wow. Yeah, it's disturbing though. Here's a retro. Like, what if we start retroing, what if everybody from the year 2000 back says, wait, hold on. They don't even do SATs anymore. Facts.

They don't even do SATs. I couldn't go to college because of SATs. Because I couldn't get my SATs up. But you see what happens now? Because every athlete who didn't go to college because of their SAT score Right, that's Brandon Jennings, too But everybody who just couldn't go to college and there was no remember Brandon's the first one to go overseas What about everybody who couldn't get in college because of it now they bringing it back now they get the opportunity to go to college

They're bringing it back right? Yeah, they're bringing it bringing it back win culturally biased but see that's what I'm saying so you have these gaps in in in society it's like you took it away from because of uh covet right so all these kids get to go in who never passed the sat then you're going to bring it back for kids to fill the sat they can't go to college you see where you can't but this is what they did with unc when i against them, they didn't have a program in place for athletes who went to the draft or came out early that could come back and then re-enroll and then continue taking their courses. So they called it Carolina First or something, where now you can leave school early, come back, and go through the program. Whenever you want? Whenever you want.

And the school pays for it still? And the school, you're still on the, I think, I don't know if you're still on scholarship, but you're still in a program where you can still take the classes and still be on pace to graduate. That was not in before. That was caused because of my disruptors of saying, you guys put us through these courses to get us through these courses so that we could play stay ineligible and keep the fucking graduation rate where it is so now you got something in place that's that's all due to

the fact that i'm shining the light on this shit so now from what you're saying now it makes sense for if anything does happen for anybody, you want to leave early, you want to come back to school, there's something there for you because they had to make the wrong right. And that's all, really, it's all about making the wrong right.

Whether it's retroactive or not, pointing it out is, I think, the key. Yeah, that's what I like. If you point it out and, hey, we fucked up here, but now, moving forward, the law starts from today going forward. Yeah.

Shout out to Reggie for getting his Heisman back, even though he went to the wrong school. Is he the only one who never lost it? I think so. Oh. Yeah. Even though he went to the wrong school, we riding with you, Reginald. So let's get into some basketball. The Athletic released their yearly anonymous players poll this week.

I hate these so much. Interviewing. Okay, well, I had that question, so I know your answer now. But they interviewed 142 players between March 5th and April 11th, hitting them on a bunch of different topics. But I was going to ask, how do you guys feel about anonymous player polls? Lexi, you're not rolling. No.

You don't even get enough players to respond for it to even, like, be valid. And who's responding? That's what, like is LeBron doing? He's anonymous, but it's like, because I remember we had one too. I don't even think, one year I got asked and like another year I didn't even get asked. So I don't even know how that process works. That year that everyone said that Candice is the most overrated player. I remember that.

I was like, I did not vote that. That was not me. But after I saw that, I was like, the athletic, y'all are some messy, messy people over there. Yeah, there's like, I mean, most like, like that's what I said. It's like, it sounds like ESPN and there seems like that kind of talk. Most overrated, most underrated. Like, the fuck does it really mean? Like, most overrated means exactly what? What does that mean?

That you're getting more praise? Than you deserve. Than you deserve? That's weird. Right? Right? Is that what it means? Like, you know.

You get too much love. You get too much love. Who was the most overrated? They voted Rudy, right? Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Like, Westbrook averaged a triple-double. He was most overrated. You see how that just doesn't...

That's just hate. It's setting things up to be hate. I don't like that shit. Most overrated, most underrated. What does it really mean? So, Gil, you need to come out with your own anonymous player's poll. No, don't make an anonymous say it with your chest.

Say it with your chest. All the players complain about the voting and nobody knows anything. But when y'all got the chance to do some anonymous shit, y'all like, okay, we can do it. They can't wait to fucking do it. Most underrated. What? How is that most underrated? If we all can pick one person, then he's not underrated, motherfucker.

Obviously. He's not underrated if we can pick who it is like oh See Occam's most underrated Y'all picked him out. Y'all don't have a list. You know to me It's just we just like all it is is some fucker in a small market that don't get praise cuz he's in a small market Don't mean he's underrated. You know what's funny? Always my colleague. I got, when I was in the league, I got voted. They used to ask this question to the guys for that type of poll.

Like, who is the guy who thinks they're better than what they are? Yeah. Yeah, see, now, you see, we can, that makes more sense than overrated. Like, me, Dante Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the motherfuckers. We was all bravo niggas. We arrogant as fuck.

Like the arrogant. Who's the most arrogant? That game don't match. I used to cheer for that. I was like, yes, motherfucker. Yeah, fuck y'all. Like I said, if you look in the NBA, when you're talking about like Trae Young, 26, 27, 11 is considered most overrated. He is on that list every year.

Every year. You can't. That's not real. That is hate. That is hate. For sure. Let's talk about some of the topics I would like to get your opinion, even though it feels a little ESPN-ish. This should be called, Who Game Doesn't Match They Talk?

Facts. That would be me, too. Y'all still think I'm a GOAT? So, players were asked to give their pick for who is the goat, speaking of goat talk. MJ got nearly 46% of the vote, but LeBron finished in second with a little over 42%. So in recent years... We're going to get to it. In recent years, LeBron has closed the gap in the poll.

In 2019, MJ has more than 73% of the vote compared to LeBron's 11%. Last year, MJ was at 58%. 58% of LeBron was at 33%. And, Lexi, as you pointed out, one player polled. Select your poll, Pierce. Shout out. What number is that out of 133? 0.8%.

Who is the 133? Who are the 133? That's what I want to know. And what percentage of that is the league? That's not even like a third of the league, is it? Fucking Kobe Bryant getting nine. It's less than a third. Yeah, like you should at least get 50% response rate to publish something.

Let me make sure there's no poll. Okay, this is what I don't like. I don't like five categories. What do you mean? It's one vote? Yeah. I don't like five categories. One vote. What do you mean? It's one vote? It was like one vote. Yeah. I don't like five categories.

No, they're twins. Right? Because, right, Paul Pierce, right, that vote could have went to someone that actually is considered one or two or three. Right?

Magic Johnson. I mean, he hasn't been considered a GOAT since 1989. So what is his name being up there? No one has Steph Curry as a GOAT, right, in the topic. So you're losing real votes to those three people, so that's what doesn't, you know what I mean? You got six people up here that are not even considered in this category.

So what's the point of having them so people can just vote for them? So Curry fans is going to waste their votes voting for him versus Michael Jordan, LeBron, or Kobe. But these are just players that say, who do you think is the GOAT? And they fill it in the name. So we know that everything was just a write-in answer? Do we know that? It's got to be multiple choice. No way.

No way they put Paul Pierce in multiple choice for this. If you got multiple choice, one person's like, hey, I'm going to pick Paul. I like Paul. Or other. Yeah, I like Paul. It's that one motherfucker that's like, I don't like none of these. I don't like none of these guys. I asked a question, you put the name in.

Now, on the write-in votes, what is the actual number? What are the actual numbers to this? How many did Michael Jordan actually get? He got, so, 160. 133 votes, Cash. We can use that. Almost a little less than half. We can get our doogie.

It ain't enough. I feel like the polls shouldn't go up until 500 people or more get it. 133 ain't enough, because then the numbers don't waver, man. Just have Gil's Arena chat. Got my man COVID 9%. Y'all ain't sleeping out.

Crazy. What do y'all think about Bron closing the gap on MJ and current players' minds? I mean, the players are younger now, so. Talk about it, Lex. It makes sense. Talk about it, Lexi. I don't think it's a dig at Michael Jordan at all. Younger, but more access to technology information to make more informed opinions.

He's just got younger. Younger players grew up watching Rod be the GOAT. Yeah. I think that, I don't think... Or just listening to the narrative that he is the GOAT. Yeah. When you push something and you see it, see it, see it. Like, when we came up, certain kids that was listening to Soulja Boy thought he was the best rapper alive.

Because that shit was on the motherfucking radio every day. Very solid marketing strategy. Every day. Lil Wayne, best rapper alive. That shit was on the Mother Mother Radio every day. Very solid marketing strategy. Every day. Lil Wayne, best rapper alive. You know what I'm saying? You hear enough of it, you start to really adapt to it. Shout out Line Wire and that. But that's not to say that people shouldn't consider LeBron that,

because he's a very good player. But it's like, look at the whole scope of it. It's all criteria-based. So because there's no criteria where we can sit there and just evaluate, then it's like what game looks how you vision it, right? That's all it really, it is. If you're a defensive minded person in life, right, you're going to gravitate to more defensive style of players, right? Oh, I'm going to go with, you know, this is what looks good for my standard, right? If you listen to, like, some of the older people and say, who are your GOAT, right?

Their list looks ridiculous. Yep. But because of the style of play back then and who made them fall in love? That's really how it is. Yep. Who made me fall in love with this? That is my favorite player of all time. That's how that works.

We treat a lot of Dr. J's, Elgin Baylor's guys like that. I mean, Dr. J, like for the most part, it's just Dr. J because he made basketball look cool, right? The throw, the style, how he walked in.

They say when he walked in, that was the first person that looked like he had a glow on him. Taking everybody's work according to reports. How he dressed. So, you know, there's a lot of people that age that says, that Jay is the best player ever played. And like Isaiah Thomas, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

He's like, it's the cap. When the cap walk in, man, he was doing shit. We was just like, nobody going to stop that fucking Jeff Hook? What the fuck are we doing? Yeah, yeah, I'm saying so I mean and even if you ask Michael Jordan who his Goat is it's not gonna be who you think It's not gonna be who you think and everybody has like you said based on your biased opinion

Or what you fucking like is who you're going to choose why you fell in love with the game That's why I can't put anybody else over who I fucking grew up and said, oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. Who's better than that? I remember watching this guy. He's very, very good, but he's better than him.

I like him. Cool. So when asked if they were building a roster from scratch, which player would they sign first? Wimby took the top spot with nearly 28% of the vote, followed by Joker, who was a close second with 27.2%.

Ant-Man, Luka, and SGA rounded out the top five. But I've got to ask this esteemed Gills Arena crew. That's weird. How LeBron go from being the GOAT? The GOAT. Since the 2.9 GOAT to 39 years old

because he's 39 so they're gauging it right now in real time and they're doing it in real time I still don't understand he's the NBA's oldest living negro these dudes can't even do a coverage and pick and roll and they're not thinking like that they're thinking the same way we're thinking

like why would you put LeBron down there if you just consider him behind Michael Jordan? That's the body of work. You're looking right now. Who would you draft right now? This is players? Yes.

At age 40, I'm not going to. If you had to pick right now, if I'm picking number one and two, that's probably exactly how I'll go when be in your clinic I'm gonna do I'm putting it over your kids just personally. Why would you put in over your kids? Um, I just like His personality more as far as like building a team So like you're gonna have a little bit more excitement, more fun, more fast-paced. But obviously, it doesn't take away

what Jokic does. But if I'm building a team right now, I'm picking over Jokic. See, like even in Bede, right? Right? I'm surprised in Bede

is that low, but they're thinking injury. Injuries, yeah. You know what I mean? So that's why I said this in real. They're thinking injury is not the healthy version of it.

Make some recency bias, definitely. But I'm just saying, you look at, but that's what I'm is in real they're thinking injuries not the healthy version of mr Recency bias definitely, but I'm just saying you look at but that's what I'm saying. We're glad a drinking injury when he only been injured once No, he's cool. He's no, but he's injured now. That's what I'm sort of like. Oh, he's been injured a couple different times That's why he low too. That's why he's low. They're thinking that's I said. It's in real time Giannis but like with Tatum being so low with players you have to do exactly this. All right, look we're gonna do all time Who is who would you start your draft with from scratch? Everybody's healthy in their prime You're gonna have to do shit like that, right? I did because if you say you say it today, but no one's picking honest or in beat Yeah, because I think that's why the list don't even makes like think about it That's a good idea. Because if you say it today, no one's picking Giannis or Embiid.

Yeah, because of that. That's why the list don't even make sense. Think about it. KD's averaging 29. He's not even up there. He's at the bottom. Or he's at the bottom. 0.7%. Squint your eyes.

Squint your eyes. They got them at Jared Allen. That's alphabetical. I was wondering the same thing. Come on now, dog. Come on now. Somebody got Scoot Henderson. I mean, come on. He definitely voted for him. What do you think dog. Come on now. Somebody got Scoot Henderson. I mean, come on.

He definitely voted for him. We think Scoot voted for Scoot. He just went Scoot all the way down. So, Sean, who would you? Victor, for sure. I'm starting with Victor. I mean, Wimby makes youngest. I think most upside.

But even just right now, how the game is being played and moving forward. Yeah, Wimby. But even just right now, how the game is being played and moving forward, yeah, like the first two, the first two arguably are right there. And then from there, it all depends on what you like. It don't got nothing to do with age for me. It don't got nothing to do, it's playing both sides of the ball. I mean, they all play like, when you look at that list, they all play so differently. So I feel like this, out of all the questions, this was probably the one that was like most thought provoking for anybody that answered.

Or it can really show how these guys like to play basketball. Or it's immediately biased on what I like. I like this person, I like that person. I ain't going to pick him because he bust my ass. One B is one B. You be saying that all the time. You ain't going to pick him because he bust my ass. I ain't going to pick him because he busts my ass. 1B is 1B. You be saying that all the time. You ain't going to pick him.

I ain't going to pick him because he busts my ass. Nah, fuck that. I ain't going to pick him. But drafting, they should have did this with general managers so you can see how they think.

Yeah. They got to put their name on it. Because you got to remember, Jokic went 46 in the draft. Right? So what he's showing now, they couldn't see it when he was going through individual workouts. But when you're talking about just overall building your team, yeah, you're gonna build

it like the first two. At least the first two, you're gonna build it like that. Now Ant-Man, Luka, it all depends on what you want. Luka, I mean, KD, LeBron. Like, you got to put everybody in their prime. To me, I've seen it in Anthony Edwards in Georgia, bro. Like, he had the potential. He had it from the start.

Like, Jokic, if we was to go back and watch Jokic, we'd probably even say he had the potential, too. Just the fact that they wasn't going to give him an opportunity because he was a Euro. Who? Jokic. Jokic probably had the potential. Just like Marc Gasol, Paul Gasol, that just had the bad bodies, moved slow. It just looks nasty.

And then he's by himself. By himself. They ain't doing shit. Even if it's one-on-one. See, that's what I said. I can see you score, right? I can see you score. I can't see in a workout one-on-one or by yourself.

I can't see Magic Johnson. Well, that's why on that list, that's why I wouldn't personally pick Jokic because we're seeing what he's doing right now with this amazing team that they've built around him now. He doesn't have this amazing team with all these pieces. Is he still going to do Jokic things? Maybe. There's still 26 and 12. Yeah, but that team is just like one of the most amazingly constructed teams I've ever seen.

It's the same as Tim Duncan. Yeah, but no All-Stars, no additional NBA players. That's my guy, Calvin Booth. But it's like you have those guys. That's my guy. Calvin Booth. The egos aren't there. It's kind of like the perfect storm for Jokic.

That's the most important thing. But you think about Tim Duncan. When Tim Duncan was on that team and they constructed that team around him, if you take him off that team... It wasn't functional. It's not functiona... And then you put him on any other team,

he's gonna keep doing what he does. Nothing changes with him. You have to adapt to him because he's the piece. So I think Jokic is one of those guys that you just gotta... For the most part, all those guys are... It's like Steph at the bottom makes sense, right? Because he's a 6'4", small guard, right? That offense has to be designed exactly for his style, for him to be his best self.

Right? So, you know, I don't think a lot of general managers themselves know what they're looking for or know what they're looking at, right? To be a great general manager or a great, I guess, leader, once you identify your two stars and say, this is who we're going to build our team, these are our stars. From that point, names are meaningless. It's surrounding these two with the people that complete their style of play. And that's how you're supposed to be. And a lot of teams don't understand that. They think grabbing a whole bunch of names is what's going to do it. No, you have to build around your two best players.

Once you get them like, that's what I'm saying. This is funny with Denver. Me and Calvin Booth used to sit and talk about this all fucking day. If we were general managers, who would be the first type? We both said we wouldn't pick no point guard under 6'3", because our studies says a pure point guard doesn't win championships like that if he's doing what he does best. If he's out there making everybody look great, that means they're not that good.

So we identified, okay, take away Magic because he's the unicorn. What is the starting point guard on the championship team averaging? And back then it came to like 3.7. Assists? Assists that season. Right? 3.7. Because remember, you got Derek Fisher, you got Brian Shaw, even when Rondo won, he had

four assists. You're talking about Tony Parker's five assists. You're talking about Mario Chalmers. You got to think about his assists, right? So it was low as shit. So we're like, well, we might as well get either a defensive guard or scoring guard. But back then, the data behind scoring guards didn't even exist either. So there was the curry effect didn't happen yet.

So from there, it was like, all right, we can just get a point guard that actually just spots up, shoot, and play defense. That was what our data did. Well, let's keep this thing moving. So, while many think Rudy Gobert is the frontrunner to win his fourth Defensive Player of the Year award, the players polled disagree.

They picked Wimby as the league's best defender with more than 15% of the vote. Gobert finished 6th in voting behind Drew Holiday, Lou Dort, Herb Jones, and his teammate Jaden McDaniels. Gobert did take the top spot in another poll, though. Getting voted as the most overrated player in the league.

Dylan Brooks. I'm like, that's hate. Why are we talking about Dylan Brooks? Let's see, that makes sense because his mouth versus right his game Trey Burke is up there again. What you got so Jordan Poole trade Dylan Brooks Trey, yeah, you said I was like damn Trey Burke You did I don't know who fucking Berkey

Oh That is a person you just got Hooper's name in your mind you did the chat heard it gives come for we're alive Is there a burglar? Oh, I said Brooks. I said Brooks. You're trying to You were trying to say, okay It ain't even Dylan Brooks, not Trey, like, Dylan Burke. Dylan Burke? Dylan Burke? Gabe Vincent will turn into Sam Vincent, but you hear him say, you know, he's talking about your mind.

He's talking about Gabe. But Trey Burke is actually a good player. Trey Burke is actually a good player. Trey Burke is a very solid basketball player. Hold on. A busy sheep. Rondo averaged 7.9 assists for his career. I get it.

For that season. We're talking about for that season when they won the championship. Yeah, the championship season. Gil's very, very involved with the chat. We'll take any time we need to correct you. Thank you for allowing me to reassume my hosting. This list, it's like half of you get more accolades than your game, and then the other half looks like they talk more than your game.

Yeah. Okay, so most overrated. Look at all the names at the bottom. Most overrated I can see, okay, Jordan Poole. After what he did this year. Okay, if he's number one, makes sense. Half a bit of. Rudy Goldberg. Rudy Goldberg.

Rudy Goldberg. That's straight from people just not thinking he deserves all those defensive players. That's what that's coming from. Fire a learner on the list, you feel like. Topped. Who? Pat Bev. Topped.

He hasn't won any awards. He don't get paid. I don't know what. I'm just saying he at the top. Sag. Rebound. He with us for most overrated so he's when we're talking

about overrated he's thinking about you talk more than bro get your ass up out of here overrated I'm like so attention than you should say Rudy go burr you're getting you're getting you're getting awards that players don't think you should be getting but he definitely deserves all of the things that he's got no much just late last night that nigga be all over the place he do exactly what he's out there to do be a center block shit rebound shit and disturb shit

he do exactly what he posted one thing he can't do is guard his own man yes he can he cannot he was blocking shit the nigga we threw that mother... No. In the post. Threw it up. Get that shit out of here. One block? Okay. He do it all the time. He do it all the time. It was so funny. Before he even traded. He had one block last night. That was the block I'm talking about. Get that shit out of here.

I said one block. Get that shit out of here. It was a powerful block though. It was a big time block too. Even when I was listening to the commentary they're like, oh, he just adjusts. But he doesn't actually block anything. So altering shots. Altering shots, but they're like, his presence. But no, sometimes guys are just missing.

It doesn't have anything to do with him all the time. No, no, Vex. Not all the time. Andy Edwards, before he came to the end, Andy Edwards said, when they're talking about, yeah, you're going there, Rudy Goldberg. He said, no one one scared of Rudy Goldberg Doing isn't like so but now you have someone like wimpy who is actually you see doing all that and chat It's making really have a seven footer down there period your guard you're going to the hoop I'm going to challenge. There are different types of motherfuckers that go to the hoop. I'm looking for contact. I'm looking for a big. Come on in here.

If you can block it, block it. DeAndre Jordan, Kenya Martin, Dallenberg, all these big time shot blockers adjusted your shot. You get down there, man, you better dunk it. But that's better. Dunk it. But now there's guys down there who are actually blocking the shit out of people constantly

and that's why I don't think you can win it anymore. You're talking about defensive player of the year. And when you go down there, you better finish it. Or he's going to block that shit. One block. That's why they don't go down there. They do, though. They wasn't.

Yes, they do. They wasn't last night. They were shooting jump shots. They were missing but think about it was shooting jump shot but think about players are saying we're more this you got to understand and this is why i say if you don't play basketball it's hard for you to ask me grasp the understanding players are saying we're scared of this guy versus the guy you're giving all the trophies to. The guy you're giving all the trophies to, he doesn't fear us. We're afraid of this young dude coming in. We're like, we're really second-guessing everything we're doing out there.

When we do pick and rolls, like Ben Wallace and K-Mark and Rasheed, picking rolls with them is like, ah. K-Mark. Ah, I don't, you know what I mean? Like, and then there's some guys who's getting defensive awards. I'm like, dog, this is fucking lunch meat down here. He's sorry. But there's a difference, though, Gil. The assessment of being a good defensive player is not just

being feared for shooting, blocking a shot. It's being in the right spots. It's being able to adjust shots. It's being able to rotate, right? It's being able to get deflections. It's being able to adjust shots as being able to rotate right it's been able to get deflections It's been able to do a lot of different things Rudy covers the board and you know what he does he gets defensive boards Whoo, he's rebound so yeah, so a lot of these do don't fucking read Okay, so Westbrook is a great defensive player cuz he gets defensive rebound. He's a good defensive rebounder

So in regards to how him and his career are viewed, Gobert had this to say. In their eyes, I'm more like the other guy from France that's winning a lot of rewards. It can be boss of people. I impact the game in a very unique way. It's maybe not as cool or not as flashy as some of the other guys, so it's sometimes harder for them to respect that.

I just think I'm just mostly misunderstood I think I trigger a lot of these guys Always apart Really? Leave my man alone. Yeah, but this is an trigger with what my French If you play demon the same since Draymond chokes and if you play defense, right? Offensive players is gonna to respect you, right? You don't see anyone saying, all right, Dylan Brooks is overrated on defense.

No one says Drew Holiday is overrated on defense, right? No one says when White won it, oh, he's overrated on defense. Marcus Smart, no one's saying he's overrated on defense. Marcus Smart. No one's saying he's overrated on defense, right? He actually is playing defense. Rashad, if he wins over Wemby, why? Why does Rudy win over Wemby?

Alright, stat, man. Let me get my stats right. We were talking about how the Timberwolves have one of the top defenses in the league, correct? The team, yes. The team. The number one. But when Wemby is on the floor versus off the floor it's like night and day defensively. So how

do you decide which one is more important when you win a number? Rudy's averaging two blocks a game, 12 rebounds a game, 14 points a game. Those two blocks testament to the number two team in the West. I think top-ranked defense this season. He's the anchor.

And finished third in the West. He's the anchor. And when you're the anchor and you don't have to cover as much ground as Wimby has to, right? You have to do more because your team sucks. Who? Wimby. He has to do more. Rudy doesn't have to do as much because we have a total team that I'm anchoring. Just like KG, when he was playing

for the Boston Celtics, the one thing they needed was a fucking anchor that could say, hey, Paul, you ain't got to play that much defense because me and T.A. got this. And me and Rondo and ta got this a ray allen We know you don't like to play no defense like that. Send them to us. We got you. That's an anchor That's what made kg the defensive player of the year because he knew the elements of how to rotate How to be here how to show how to block shots how to alter shots I think rudy does all of those things like he said I Affect the game in a unique way that may not be cool.

It may not be blocking shots out of bounds every fucking five seconds. But I know these dudes don't want to fuck with me defensively. I know a lot of these guys know I'm out here, and they got to pull me away from the basket in order for them to have some type of effect in the game. And that's where the game is going. You pull big. Hey, Rudy, we got to pull him away from the basket.

Right, and he can't get no stops out there. Exactly. So why does that make him the defensive player of the year? Because you have to do that in order for the game to work on your benefit. So you're saying he doesn't have to do as much, right? So if it's baking a cake. He averages less steals, less blocks. He only averages two more rebounds than Wimby.

And he averages nine less points than Wimby. So if he's building, if we're building a cake, you're basically saying he is the anchor of it. He's the icing. So he's the icing on the cake, right? So his defense, so the cake is built, and he's doing the icing. Icing is extra. Right?

You can still eat a cake without icing. No, no. Nasty. No, no. It's a nasty-ass cake. It's a muffin. It's a muffin without icing. You ain't got to bake the icing. Icing is extra. Right? No, no. You can still eat a cake without icing. No, no. It's nasty. No, no. It's a nasty-ass cake. It's a muffin. It's a muffin without icing.

You ain't got to bake the cake. It's a big-ass muffin without the icing. Pound cake is delicious. So he's putting the icing on the cake, and then you're saying, Wendy,

he has no cake builder, so he has to build the cake and the icing. Mm-hmm. Why isn't he a better cook then? Because the cake, so he has to build the cake and the icing. Mm-hmm. Why isn't he a better cook then? Because the cake- Because he has to do everything. He has to crack the eggs, do this and do that to compete with the same guy who just has

to put icing on it. See- The only thing is, that's a cheap cake. Says who? It says the price of the cake because of the wins and the losses. Your cake is cheap because you're putting it together with all the low-budget ingredients to make this fucking cake. Me, I got number one ingredients. Our ingredients to make this cake is red velvet. This is red velvet.

He said our cake. Yeah, because you just have to put this. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. So if you have an Ant-Man and this on your team to help, to help take away your responsibility, then your responsibility ain't a trophy worth. No, it's just the icing on the cake. You're going 50% because someone is doing the job for you. No, we're never going 50%.

Don't say he's not playing as well. I say he doesn't have to do as much. Here's a stat that they don't tell you. The number one defense in the team, the number one team defense is Minnesota Timberwolves. The number one team defense when Wimby is playing

is Wimby. The Spurs. See, you gotta remember he only plays 20-something minutes. So once he leaves the floor, that's when they drop. So when he leaves the floor, they drop. But when he's playing in the game, so when they do tip ball,

the number one defense in the NBA is the Spurs. Not Wimby and his cake crew. I mean, not Rudy and his cake crew. The Spurs is the number one defense in the NBA is the Spurs. That has nothing. Not Wimby and his cake crew. I mean, not Rudy and his cake crew. The Spurs is the number one defense in the NBA. When Wimby's off the floor, they go to last. Let's just

go back to what you just said. He's baking this cake by himself. He has the cheap, cheap ingredients. It's still a cake. But it's an individual line order. Why is his cake better than... Can I finish? Can I finish? Cheap ingredients. It's still a case. There was a visual Why is this cake better than and I finish the license? I think I can I finish. Mm-hmm. You got this red velvet cake. Mm-hmm, right with Premium icing it's premium. Okay, like a wedding cake. Okay. I'm not giving this wimpy cake to the wedding yet

I'm not giving this Wimby cake to the wedding yet. It's more like a smash cake for the first birthday. It's the grandma cake that's helping with the kid helping the grandma with the cake and we just we're going to test this out. It's experimenting and we're going to put it in the refrigerator and we eat it you know two days out of the week. This is a wedding cake

we talking about with the red velvet inside. This is a special occasion cake that this nigga bakes up. This is what I'm saying with rudy wimby ain't got there yet but you said you said he ain't got there but when he's on the floor they're ranked one i understand that which means when the game starts when both teams starts the game spurs is number one in defense because he's on the floor. I get it. So that means all the cake bakers you have, they're still under this cheap cake you're calling. I get it. See, he only becomes a cheap cake because he has to get off the floor.

So that means half of the game he's sitting on the bench, which makes the workers trip. He don't have a work squad. So you're saying as an individual award, who's a better defender? Him by himself is ranking one. Rudy's already proven on teams prior to this team where he didn't have the number one defense, that he was the defensive player of the year multiple years in a row. He's already proven that. So we're using this metric against Rudy now because there's a guy who's doing what Rudy

used to do Just so it's just so happening to both wrench We we So that's what I'm saying with Rudy. He said I still do what I do best I'm just on a better team where y'all don't want to give me as much credit But that's what but he's still a good defensive player. They're doing what he do. They put him on one of the defensive teams. It wouldn't be the award that he deserves. But he used to be baking the same cake

Wimby been baking right now. The only difference is now we've moved up. But that's the problem. If they're playing the same amount of minutes, there's no Rudy talk. There's no Rudy talk because Wimby is the number one player in defense. His team is number one.

If he played the 38 minutes a game, Spurs number one player in defense. His team is number one. What you mean? If he played the 38 minutes a game, Spurs is number one in defense. But he only played 20-something. Rudy's playing 38 minutes a game? He's only playing 20-something minutes. Rudy not playing 30 minutes. I don't think you're grasping the understanding of what's going on. I do.

When he's playing, Spurs is number one. When he's off the floor, they drop to last. So when you calculate all that up, they're at the bottom because he doesn't play as much. Bro, trust me. I get what you're saying. That means if it's even field and both play the same amount of minutes, there's no even Rudy. Rudy playing about

34 minutes. 34 minutes. And Wimby plays 31. 29-ish. 30. So that means that five minutes extra, his team goes last. No, I get it, bro. Trust me, I get it. I'm just saying it's premium versus generic.

But we would say, then you would have to say Rudy is generic because all he has to do is put icing on the cake. Do you think Ant and McDaniels will make defensive teams? I feel like if both of them make a defensive team, it's hard to give Rudy a defensive player of the year when you have that. Well, that's like saying True Holiday never deserved defensive player

first team or any defensive team because Giannis was out there. Or Giannis shouldn't have been defensive player of the year two years in a row because he was on a good defensive team. That was my argument. But he's a been defensive player of the year two years in a row because he was on a good defensive team. That was my argument. But he's a good defensive player in those years that he won it. Giannis, he was beating shit up. He was defensive rebounding.

He was stealing shit. He was doing a bunch of shit. A lot of things in the defensive aspect, those categories are not filled. I think you can compare Wimby more to Giannis than Rudy to Giannis as far as their impact defensively. That's the difference. Everyone's trying to compare rather than just appreciate what each one brings to the table defensively. So what does Wimby have to do to beat Rudy in Defense Player of the Year? This year?

He has to be better? This year? No, just in general because it seems like Rudy got that shit on lock. No, he might have it on lock for this year. I think moving forward, there's no reason there's going to be a doubt about it for Wimby. So you know where Wimby gets where he has an advantage of what he's talking about? Because one of the categories, so they do steals, blocks, defense, or rebounds, right? And then they do team defense efficiency, right?

Now if you got two other players or three other players that actually play defense, that helps Rudy's case. Then when you say, then again, opponents field goals with player as the closest defender. Well, Rudy ain't trying to block three point shots. So if some people miss shit around the basket, he gets that award too. So there's things in here that has nothing to do with actual defense.

I don't like the award because it doesn't say who the best individual, you are a lockdown defender. Like when people used to say, who's the best lockdown defender? And I used to say, all right, I used to say Tony Allen, right? The team, you know, they wasn't really that good at defense. Him by himself was a great defensive player. Marcus Banks, by himself, great defensive player. Picking up full court, keeping you from those.

That's how I, you know, evaluate defense, right? But you're evaluating those by your personal sense of how they guard you me i say listen put marcus banks in the motherfucking gas chamber he ain't a good defender at all you gotta sub his ass out you can't guard me down here you can only guard me when you pick me up 94 feet where i'm dribbling the ball and you can put pressure on everybody tony allen put him in motherfucking pick and roll and have him, I mean, pick and rolls and then pin downs. He ain't a fucking factor at that point.

He's only a factor when you're on the ball and you gotta get him on. But it's all contending on certain aspects of the game. Rudy Gobert, he may not get Not great in pick and roll. He's bad at switching. He's great at contesting.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's why I've always had a problem with the Defense Player of the Year award because it's like you could have a player that great on ball, gets some ball screens, da-da-da-da-da, but you're not going to be considered for Defense Player of the Year award because maybe you don't get enough rebounds. You don't get any blocks.

Got to cover all of the aspects. But he doesn't. You said, wasn't it, he can't guard a... For his position, he does. He can't hard... For his position, he does. He can't hard show. He's horrible at sagging.

He's horrible at switching. But they don't... He's horrible at... That's not their team concept. He's horrible at individual posting up when they post him up. He contests shots. That's it.

So you're giving... He gives deflections. So you're giving him an award because he's bigger than him? No, he blocks shots. He contests shots. He al deflections. You're giving him an award because he's bigger than him? No, he blocks shots. He can test shots. He alters shots. He gets deflections.

He does a lot of the things within the team concept, which helps the team win, that makes you a defensive player. When Draymond Green won it, why did he win it? He wasn't blocking shit. He wasn't making, he wasn't blocking, he wasn't leading the league in blocks. He wasn't leading the league in blocks.

He wasn't leading the league in blocks. But what... He was doing all the small things. What does blocks have to do with defense? He's stopping the guy from actually getting to the basket. Bro, Draymond Green was the defensive player of the year because he had the energy on a winning team to look like he was making stops by himself. All he was doing was playing into the team concept, and that made him look a lot better than he would if he was on a losing team, and he was by himself on the island.

He wouldn't win it. But you can't... That's make-believe. What do you mean it's make-believe? If he was on a losing team, that's fantasy basketball. So why is Rudy... We don't know that. So Rudy's on a winning team,

and he's going to win it because he's on a winning team. That ain't fantasy. That's reality. Reality is Rudy's doing what fucking team, and he's going to win it because he's on a winning team. That ain't fantasy. That's reality. Reality is Rudy's doing what fucking Draymond is doing. Okay, I give you that. That's why he's going to win it. But you just penalized everybody else for not doing something. Oh, he can't come down to pin down.

He can't do this. So they can't do something. No, I'm saying you was giving them credit for that because they were doing something specifically for you, against you. And I'm saying, okay, Rudy's flaws is he can't go and pick and roll. He can't hard show. He's horrible at sag. He's horrible playing his man by himself.

He can't do that. Wimby's the same. That is individual. Wimby's the same. That is individual basketball. But Wimby's the same. What I'm saying is that's individual. To start to be a defensive player Shouldn't the number one rule be you stop your own man? But Rudy's what think about what I'm saying, right if I'm defensive player to hear the one thing I supposed to do is stop my man first right fuck team shit i supposed to be able to lock my man it's not fuck team shit when our

team scheme is don't worry about your guy again you're supposed to do this again again but what what i'm saying but you wanted to fit what you like though you like a certain aspect of man i wanted to be stop your guy fuck the team shit that ain't how basketball works. I'm glad you said that. Because then you can't penalize no player for not playing defense because it's a team defensive game. Absolutely. So, let's get this moving because we had three playoff games last night. It's secondary though. I was going to say, I don't like defensive play.

Is it secondary or is it primary? Is it secondary or primary? There's a primary aspect, which is what I'm talking about. Don't worry about Luka. You're talking about the secondary. Do not worry about Luka and all of their playing defense because this is a team defensive game. Absolutely. That's Jason Kidd's problem.

So, speaking of Gobert, his World Squad was back in action Tuesday night for Game 2 against the Suns. Before we get into the game, we got to give Ants some love for seeing the future. So, you know, they got KD, but we got Jaden McDaniels. So when this clip dropped last year, people were clowning Ant, but now they're calling him Negro Damas. It's an old clip, but everybody was running it after the game. In the full clip. Yeah, because he played great last night.

In the full clip, Ant was talking about Jaden McDaniels' defense, but McDaniels got it done on both sides of the floor in game two. So he got it going in the second quarter, dropped a playoff career high, 25 points, along with eight rebounds and three assists, going 10 for 17 from the field, two for four from three. Him and Dee Book got into it, too. Little pushing match. He gave him that little extra shove and got teed up for it. The Suns looked solid in the first half, taking a one-point lead into the break, but the Wolves

put together a team effort in the second half to take the win. So Ant-Man followed up his Game 1 dominance by going 3-for-12 from the field and finishing with 15 points, but he did hit two big buckets in the second half. Gobert dropped 18 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 steals. And Mike Conley added 18, going

7-for-13 from the field, 3-for-6 from 3. Cat picked up three fouls in the first quarter, but did have 12 and 8 in the game. Devin Booker led the Suns with 20 points. KD was held to 18 points, and Bradley Beal finished with 14 points, going 6 for 17 from the field. Took the most shots on the Suns squad in that game. The Suns' big three won a combined 18 for 45 from the field, 3 for 12 from 3. They were also a combined minus 59 in the loss.

Also need to note that Grayson Allen once again left the game after re-aggravating his ankle injury. He might be done done. Yeah, he might be on Chile against Island. But Eric Gordon filled in, dropped 15 points, going three for five from three. The Wolves' top-ranked defense forced 19 turnovers in the game and had a 31-2 advantage

in points off turnovers. So, gotta ask the couch. Yeah, they were... They were. Mr. Arenas, yeah? Because you said this was last year, right? Yeah. That wasn't this year, right?

What, what did he say? And you said he's looking like Nostradamus? Negrodamus. Negrodamus. How, when McDaniels got his ass busted last year and they lost after that statement? So, he's looking like him now because. That's how Twitter works, Gil.

No, no, no, no, no, no. We're not doing that. When he said it, we have this guy. Okay. That game got his ass mocked. Oh, my gosh. Let Twitter be Twitter. No, I don't like.

No, we're not going to push those narratives like that. Like, I'm thinking he said this in this, like, the playoff matchup, this is who you're about to face. Then he looks like a genius. But the fact that you said it last year before a game, and you lost that game 100 to 107, and your man had six motherfucking points. Okay.

You don't look like a genius. That was last year. That was last year when he said it. Did he re-say it? This was this year. Did he re-say it? Right, they had a game. If they didn't have a game in between, then okay. See, he had a game, right? Some things don't need to be said, right? Sometimes you don't really need to say shit.

People be on Twitter, man. Lighthearted moment. What did Medan just go out there and do? Lighthearted moment. He had six. He had six minus ten is what he did. After he said that. After he said that.

We're not talking about now. Why are we not so what if I say some shit in 2005 my fucking It takes 10 years. It's like me doesn't make it true Yes, it does I said it last year thinking that we was about to be popping and it didn't work listen man If I say I'm gonna whoopop your ass 10-1. And then you lose. He goes up 1-0. And then I lose. No, then I lose. If he says he's going to beat me in a shooting contest,

and I got it on film that months ago you said you was going to beat me in a shooting contest, then we go shoot, then you lose. I can bring up that three months ago you said... No, but if he beats you in between that... But he doesn't. He doesn't beat me in between anything. But then you can't use that as an example. But I'm using it as an example.

Well, let me finish. So now, fast forward to right now. Fast forward to right now. I've already beat you, right? Now, what I'm saying is J.D. McDaniels can come out and they don't have to say nothing. The whole reference of Ant-Man saying it is I have faith

in my guy. My guy is good enough. My guy is good enough. No, I got faith in my guy. You know how Twitter is? You're saying it wrong. You're saying you will beat me. I

beat you. No, you said you were going to beat me. Okay, but we have to go with the example that's here. Okay. The example was they asked about KD. We have a Jaden McDaniels. We asked about KD. We have a Jaden McDaniels. That's all he said.

That's all he said. There was a longer clip. Because of the game that's coming up. No, I think Ant later said in that clip, for future games as well down the road. Wait a minute. That's a lie. He tried to use it.

We just want to deal with facts. The facts was we're getting ready to play them last year. And this is what I said. It didn't turn out that way. It did. It didn't. Your man had six points. He lost.

This is a whole nother year later. So don't try to pretend that this is today. It's all he's saying is I got confidence in my guy. And you didn't. He got beat down. That's good. Your man got beat. But he didn't get beat down now.

Okay, then you should have said it before. No, that's why they brought the clip back up. Gilbert, you bring the clip back up because full surface it says, look, we still got faith in Jaden McDaniels. He just got the best of KD. I'm sorry, then re-say it for me.

Re-say it. Say it before the playoffs that I have confidence that we have this match. Don't try to make it seem like... But why does he have to re-say it just for your happiness? Why do we got to say it just for Gil's happiness? Because I don't like tricky shit. Come on, man. You don't like when niggas get their ass bucked.

That's that goofy shit. You don't like when niggas get their ass bucked. How many games was played before this happened? Like, there's too many games. It's 2-0. Not when he said it. He didn't say this. But it's 2-0 right now.

Anthony Edwards. He's talking about how many matches that they had. Don't talk about any matches. Don when he said it. He didn't say this. But it's 2-0 right now. How many matchups did they have? How many matchups? It don't fucking matter. But this is the type of dude that we deal with on the internet. It's 2-0. I beat you 10 games straight. You win one. Now you want to brag your body. The last game. That's what happened. The only thing that counts is the last game.

The last game is the only one that counts. If I just beat you, I don't give a fuck about the prior games. Of course. I just want your fucking ass. Of course, when you say it, it don't matter what you say. What you mean? You need to bring up the prior games to feel good about your thing. That's when he said it.

Not me. I don't have to. I beat your ass. Come back. That's why I prefaced it before playing the soundbite. Now, if I was doing tricky shit, I would have just played it there and had you thinking it was recent. I said this yesterday. If I was doing trickiness by merely hosting...

He know what it means. No, no, no. I know what it means. You just don't like it. I don't like you making this up because the next game after that, KD had 31. The next game after that... And game one, KD went off.

The third game after that... Um... They didn't put that clip of when... That's the first and game one Katie went off third the third game after that They input that clip of when they got a K one K plus 22 so the three games Before the playoffs, mr. Davis is 0 and 3 then you can't brag now They say did we say they'd make Daniels post it. No posted it. I was some random page internet Okay, yeah, so this ain't got nothing to do with me Did McDaniels post it? No. Who posted it? Probably some random page. The internet. Okay. Yeah. So this ain't got nothing to do with McDaniels. It has nothing to do with none of them. Right?

But this is what people do on the internet. But he's upset. He's upset. Because the internet is dumb. He's upset. Merely a lighthearted moment to intro into the highlight. Let's get back to the importance of this segment. They're just trying to motivate the Suns.

Okay. What did the Wolves show you in their game to win over the Suns this current game to take a 2-0 lead against the Suns. Amen. They are a good little team. They're very good. It's a good little team. Even with their star players struggling a little bit.

I thought the Suns came out with a pretty solid game plan for Edwards. Edwards. Send two. I feel like that's the obvious thing. But his teammates stepped up. I was impressed by them for sure. And big game one obviously didn't perform to the standards that we expect him to perform in game two.

But how impressive has a Wolves death been so far in the playoffs? That's what's great about the playoffs, right? When you're talking about the playoffs, everyone adjusts, right? They adjusted to Ant-Man because what Ant-Man did last game. And the bench adjusted to that adjustment, right? They adjusted to Ant-Man because what Ant-Man did last game. And the bench adjusted to that adjustment, right? So, you know, you have McDaniels, you have these guys that's coming in

that's saying, all right, you want to shut him down? I'll take over his points, right? And, you know, I don't think people paid attention to what Denver said and what Jokic said last year when they won the championship that the hardest team that they faced was Minnesota in that

first round. Right? I think that just went over everyone's head. Because obviously they beat them comfortably, but no one paid attention and said, yeah, we played the Suns, we played the Lakers, and we played Miami, but our hardest matchup was Minnesota. So, you know, and it's showing right now that, you know, they have players that if you take away our stars, we can get the fucking job done.

And that's what playoff basketball is about. On both sides. I think it's a coaching matchup. I think Finch is out coaching. Dirty Frank Vogel. Dirty Frank don't know what the fuck he be out there doing sometimes. See, I've seen some things that Finch did that makes him such a good coach where when the Phoenix Suns start to make a run,

maybe even a shot from a 12-point deficit to cut it to 10, timeout. Timeout, right away. No hesitation. They might cut it to 10, timeout. Timeout, right away. No hesitation. They might even come out of that timeout. They miss a shot. Phoenix come down, score again. Timeout again. Stop that shit.

That didn't work. And I think the adjustments that he makes on the floor when you see the Ant-Mens being doubled and we need Conley to be more involved, we need Monte Morris to be more involved, Alexander to be more involved. We need Monte Morris to be more involved. Alexander to be more involved. Even Nas Reed.

They got a slew of players that understand from the concepts that he's put in, this is our adjustment. Cat, this is our adjustment. Cat didn't play well at all. Got in foul trouble. But even that distraction gave Phoenix some hope that they were one man down until another man stepped up. And it's like, damn, what do we got? And then you look at Phoenix's bench, their lack of depth pushes them in the hole further because what do you do when they got the next man up over here and you don't? Your next man up is Eric Gordon feeling for Grayson Allen, but you're not putting Bobo in to change the pace of the game

You only play to Bobo and play two minutes in the game and who and you're not putting IT in the game That's what I'm saying. What at all to change the place You know, you know, this is when you have to really evaluate And this is this is what coaching comes in It's not necessarily who is your most valuable all season. It's who is the most valuable to date in this series. This is where coaching really stands on your shoulders. Right?

When you can put somebody in that no one expects to change the series to change it for, right? Right now, with the talent that's on the floor, and you look at this bench, there's only one guy who can actually change the outcome of this series, and that is Bobo.

Because his skill level, his skill level is unmatched. He might not be reliable, but you don't know what happens when the fire is on when you need him. You know, three blocks here, two threes, something like, oh, shit, we didn't expect this. Sub, sub, sub. And they might pull in some guys to try to match him that benefits you. Momentum. Right? That's where coaching comes in now.

Where? Dwight Howard against Denver. Yep. Delay. Dwight, go get Jokic. And like, oh, shit. Dwight is stopping this motherfucker. Yeah.

Next series, we don't need you That's what coaching is. I don't need you to series because we don't need this time We need more mobile because of who we're playing you have to adjust your lineup to who you're playing in real time Because there are teams out here that has just more than you you got six dependable players, Phoenix. Right? But there's one guy that you might need him for this series.

Shit, you might need him for next series. You don't know. You might not need him all season. But now, that's where playoffs are about. Some guy you didn't need all season, you might need him for this series because what? They don't have a scouting report. need them for this series. Because what? They don't have a scouting report.

Facts. Facts. That's playoff basketball. They don't have. Like, shit. Everything's fucking locked down. We can't move. Everybody's on KD. This and this.

Hey, hey. They don't have no scouting report. Go out there. Isaiah Thomas. Go out there. Isaiah Thomas. Mix this shit up. Go out there.

Do what you do. Do what you do. Fucking fuck it up. You and Bobo. Go fuck it up. Just to see. Give them a couple minutes. See out there, do what you do. Do what you do. Fucking fuck it up. You and Bobo. Go fuck it up. Just to see. Give them a couple minutes. See if they can do something.

IT out there with Beal, Book, and KD. Fuck it up. And Bobo. Fuck it up. Go. You put that. You put that. That's a great lineup.

What? Bobo at the five. Then you got IT at the one. Beal, Booker, and KD. At the four. For five minutes. Just do it This is what made Steve Kerr great when he understood

Okay, let me put let me let me put Barnes in let me take you go dollar put him on a bench because he doctor Works better with the second unit because of a practice. Yep It was because of a practice not something that happened a game in a practice. This looked better. Let's try it Oh shit. This is the this is the what the death squad our small ball is the best squad That wasn't something they played it happened and they went with it when Tyrell tight Ty Lue won that championship when Richard Jefferson got put in the starting lineup or got bit one of the two I think he got put in the starting lineup, right?

He got put in the starting line wasn't playing got put in the starting lineup, right? He got put in the starting lineup. Wasn't playing, got put in the starting lineup, and that just opened up everything. This is when you have to test out shit in the play. You have possible seven games to figure out a lineup. You have a possible seven. You got five now. And if you really look at it,

there's the elephant in the room, though, for me. The elephant in the room is though, for me. Elephant in the room is Brad, Book, KD are on the court at the same time, all deferring to each other, trying to figure out who the fuck. And this go back to our argument about Book, you can give me,

if you can give me this, and KD, you can give me this. Y'all don't have to be looking for this nigga who think that he's sacrificing shots based on status. When we just need you to move the fuck around. And move around to me is go do all the other shit other than try to expect to get your shot off. Well, what else does he do? He handles the ball.

Pick and roll. Bill. He can facilitate. Drive the ball. Get fouled. So Bill led can facilitate. Drive the ball, get fouled. So Bill led the Sunday shot attempts in the game, too, with 17. KD had 15. You think it would be the end of the world if they brought Bill off the bench? That's what we were just discussing.

Trev Trout. Trev Trout. Shout out to Trev Trout. You know, the problem is, this is what the real problem is. It's Booker is at the point playing like a shooting guard. Yes. Bill is the shooting guard playing like a point. Yes.

That is the problem. If Booker's going to be your point and he's aggressive, Bill, when you get the ball, be your shooting guard. Yes. Right? You're both mixed match. If I'm going to have Bill acting like a point, you handle the ball. Right?

Booker, you're the two. Let him come down. Do the first pick and roll. They do whatever they do. Give it to you. Then you get the score. I can't have you guys in mismatched positions playing mismatched positions. But that's the difference.

When Booker's playing point guard and he's in the pick and roll, that alleviates the shooting guard offense. There is no offense for Bill at the two. He's just spaced out like Grayson Allen. That leaves him in a place where I just got to catch and go, whether then coming off a pick and roll, me coming off a flare screen, me doing two guard shit. I'm not doing no two guard shit when Booker has the ball at the point. When I got the ball at the point, Booker can now do two-guard shit because I'm not looking to come off the pick and roll and do point guard shit. So that's the difference between the two, in my opinion,

is that if you take Bradley Bill, put him on the bench, bring IT in and let him play point guard, right? And you say, IT, we don't need you to be the traditional guy that you are, which is coming off like Booker is, point guard.'t need you to be the traditional guy that you are which is coming off Like Booker is the point guard. We need you to set the team up so that Booker can really play too So KD can really play three, but when you got Bradley coming off the bench He can really play too and once you just put Bradley at the point because Brad

Brad at this point they still deferring because he's on the floor That's what I'm saying with the mentality between all three of them on the floor. They all relegate. All right, we got to get him involved. We got to do this. And that's how it looks out there, just like the Clippers. When Kawhi came back, all of a sudden, they start, we got to get Kawhi the ball. No, man, y'all two niggas just went off for game one.

You got to keep doing that shit. You can't bring him in and then slow the game down. So the same thing with Katie and them they haven't figured out that there's a weak link on the floor That's stopping y'all from being who y'all are Booker and Bill Booker and Katie. It's Brooklyn Katie. They just need to be them No, all of them need to be them the process that the problem is is Remember bill bill play with John Wall Right John wasn't there. No, he put when they play they play when he played with John Wall, right?

John wasn't there. No, when he played with John Wall, right, he's traditional too. Yes. He has to think the same way. I think the problem becomes it's no different than what James Harden is doing now. But the problem, the thing with James Harden is he has the ball to play point to make his sacrifices. Now, put it in Paul George's hand.

Put it in Paul George's hand and let Harden think he's still a point guard. It's going to look bad. Yes. Because now when he gets it, he thinks he needs to do a pick and roll to get everybody involved. That's how it's looking right now. When Bill gets the ball, instead of Bill just scoring, he's like, oh, I need to get it. Where's Katie at? No. was looking right now. When Bill gets the ball, instead of Bill just scoring, he's like, oh, I need to get... No, if I want you to have this mindset, I need to get the ball in your hand first.

Then you can facilitate so you can get in there, pass it, then they can do that. But the fact that we have you at the shooting guard position, and then you're still thinking... Yeah, he's getting a shot clock. You don't have enough time for that. You were saying that off camera. You were saying about the two-guard spot.

Yeah, it's like obsolete. Yeah, Bill's not doing that. Score it. Just score. Don't worry about shit else. But he did it last night. He did it last night. But it's one of those things where... Because they don't have a point in the art.

Together, they're so unstoppable. Together. Play together. They don't know how. Be Denver. They don't know how. Be Denver. They don't know how. Think about Denver. Denver plays roles. They have roles. And that's the problem.

They can't fit into a role where they can say, I accept it. Let me be this. You be that. I be this. And we can interchange. That's what we can talk about playing. As hoopers, we supposed to know. Hey man, I'm about to cut back door. I don't need the ball in my hands. I can play without the ball.

I don't need that. And that is the difference between today's game and earlier. The value of being able to be effective without having the ball in your hand constantly doesn't really get acknowledged anymore. At all. It's very important to be able to be effective in a game without having the ball in your hand constantly doesn't really get acknowledged anymore. It's very important to be able to be effective in a game without having the ball every single position. No one knows how to be a big three.

A real big three. Like, I think that is what's missing, and I think that this is a problem with the Lakers, this is a problem with Boston at times. This is the problem with Dame and Giannis. This is the problem with the Phoenix Suns. They haven't figured out what made Golden State great with the big three, what made Boston with Paul Pierce in the big three great, What makes Denver great that the three headed monsters

run the offense through each other. It's not you try to do you. If you don't have it, give it to me. I'm going to try to do me. If I don't have it, I'm going to give it to you. Bomb. You're like, oh, shit. Right? No, it's like, yo, here, we're going to be on this side and we're going to try to figure out shit.

Okay, back door. Give it to you i'm flat we're we're playing through each other they're figuring shit out they're literally playing hot potato like draymond green curry and clay it was them yep together and then the other two figured out how to move and play with them, right? Then when KD came, it became the four figured out how to play through each other, and that's the problem. You're so powerful. If you say, all right, hold on. Here, let's do some triangle pick and roll, some splits between the three of us. Let Grayson Allen and Nurkic.

Hey, Nurkic, go set a pick. Do a down pick, corner pick for Grayson Allen. Grayson Allen and Nurkic. Hey, hey Nurkic go set a pick Do a down pick corner pick for Grayson Allen Grayson Allen you curl it if you don't like it We pick you motherfuckers get dizzy over there You know why we're working though is because the Phoenix Sun big three and The Clipper big three is guard heavy Look, I am Dominic ball. I have our heavy look at Miami when brahms was there and the Clipper big three is guard heavy. Ball dominant, guard heavy. Guard heavy.

Look at Miami when Bron was there. D-Wade, Bron, and Bosh. KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce. This is a big that can facilitate Draymond Green. So you don't think a big three is possible with all guards?

You gotta have a big because the obligation for the big is one, to rebound. Right? To have a post presence that can score. And then you gotta have a screener. A screener. Somebody that's willing to get you open. A screener. Right?

So now if you don't got that, Chris Bosh will say I'm gonna sacrifice my ISOs that I had in Toronto. To set screens for D-Wade. Now D-Wade said, I'm going to now sacrifice having the ball in my hand all the time to slashing.

Now, I'm going to slash and get to the free throw line. Now, LeBron, hey, listen, hey, look, CB, we're going to need to let LeBron be LeBron. He can do whatever the fuck he want.

Same with Ray Allen. Ray Allen, you don't have to have the ball in your hand. You don't have to come out pick and roll and none of that shit. We're just going to screen for you. Run around and make it. Paul make Paul you're gonna have your ISOs. We're gonna move out the way

KG hey, listen fuck that y'all gotta throw the ball to me at all. I'm gonna be the Draymond green I'm gonna scream for Rondo. I'm gonna go lobs. I'm gonna play defense I don't really need it, but we y'all need me to have it. I still got this in my bag Yeah, but they don't have that but even even when KG had it, boom, right? We already knew the first person he's looking for. He's looking for

Paul Pierce ducking. Ducking in. So now while you're sitting here, like, all right, we're about to double, Paul Pierce ducking in. If you don't have

Paul Pierce ducking in, someone's setting a flare for Ray Allen. Woo-hoo-hoo! That's so dangerous. So everybody's still busy. So now we can't even focus on KG.

If he decided to go one-on-one. Who wide open? Rondo. And then when Rondo get it, it's more as a damn near pick and roll, pass it to him because you helped me. But the three main players is moving with each other. When LeBron James drove and you decided to take a charge,

Dwyane Wade is coming down the lane. Like, oh my God. When Dwyane Wade split, right, boom, and we reacted, soon as you looked this way, LeBron cut right in front of you. Here we go. That's what these three don't have today. And that's why Jokic

and Denver Nuggets is so hard to guard because when you're focusing on those two, the other three know how to play basketball. Yes. The other three know how to play. That's coaching, too. They're not just sitting there like, huh.

I mean, look at last game. Devon Murray had a horrible shooting night. They still figured it out. Came back in the fourth. Waiting on it. Waiting on it. Like, motherfucker, do you shoot threes? No.

Then why are you sitting there at 3.9? Cut. You done? Hey, how about this? When I get in, I drive, and your man steps up, how about I go for arees? No. Then why are you sitting at 3.9? Cut. You dunk? Hey, how about this? When I get in, I drive, and your man steps up, how about I go for a lob? Oh. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

But if you think about Phoenix, they got three guards that like to shoot jumpers. And ain't none of them relegated to it. One, have a post presence. Just think if KD said, no'm gonna function out the post those night play off me put And then I'm gonna post and turn on this motherfucker in the book Even if it was booked book you play off the post who guard you bro play off the pole kindly on you Post this little bit up

But then if you don't put bobo in Rudy gonna be back there sitting down there all day long for the week. So you got to put the big. You got to finish the big. Now, think about it. If I have Colleen and Booker's on the point or Bill, and I'm sitting here doing it. When you come, Bobo's sitting at 3.1 or Bobo. When he comes, dive.

And dunk that bitch. And if you dive, somebody steps. The next man, that's KD sitting in the corner. Wide open. It's simple. It's very simple. Very simple. It's simple. They got so. Come on,'s simple. It's very simple. Very simple. It's simple.

They got so, that's what I'm saying, coaches got so lazy. They got so lazy. Yeah, picking up, hand-picking names, like you said, instead of building a team

that they have to coach. Hand-picking names. Hand-picking, because it looks good on paper. Looks good. Looked great on paper when the deal happened. Do you think they'll be able

to figure this out? No. Because they have not done so? Not with that. The reason I said... Well, not having Grayson is going to make it a little hard. Even with him, there's no... There's no upside to the offense that we've seen, right?

There's no, like, this looks good when it looks great. There's none of that right um the only thing that looks great is if they're hitting their shots when they're going iso it looks great yep right the the team itself functionality has never been there facts right it's just if this guy is on he's on if his eyes if they're all three on who they're invincible. With Jokic in Denver, when they look bad... There's still a machine there. The machine is there. That means Jokic drove and wide open shots, they just missed their wide open shots.

When he drove and he threw the lobs, it just went out of bounds or someone deflected those out of bounds plays. When we did the pick and roll and I hit back and I came, I just missed my shot. But for the most part, everything has been wide open for them. It's not me hitting there, me do a whole bunch of side steps, shooting 28-footers. You look bad. I just look bad. They look great when they go in. Oh, oh.

But at the end of the day, it's how often are you going to be able to shoot? Tough shot. Them tough shots. Like you said said with Joker though He can get buckets when needed Jamal Murray struggling first three quarters. I can fill that role fourth quarter And now we've coming to you the only person that shoots tough shots on Denver is Jokic one-legged pullback at the end of the shot clock. Yeah, right and at this point that's not a tough shot That's just but even if straight cash those are end of the

Shot clock shot when he has to do the, those are not his normal shots. Those are end of the shot clocks, which is basically Hail Mary's, right? And he's making a high percentage of those. And then we can say the hardest jump shooter on the team is Michael Porter Jr.? Yup. Other than that, Gordon's never taken hard shots. Nope.

KCP's not taking hard shots. Brown coming in is not taking hard shots, right? Peyton, look, everyone is getting easy buckets. That goes back to me saying, though, Dirty Frank don't got a system. And I knew he didn't have a system when he got hired. They got rid of Monty. They put him in. I'm like, you just left the Lakers.

Granted, you got that little bubble tip. But after that. Not a little bubble tip. They put him in. I'm like, you just left the Lakers. Granted, you got that little bubble tip, but after that... Not a little bubble tip. He didn't even have to put in a system for them guys. Well, you had a bunch of high IQ basketball players. They knew how to fucking play. You didn't have to put in a system. Remember, I gave him a C.

I gave him a C for that. You had this well-oiled machine, right? A bubble happened, but you have LeBron James. You have the bubble, right? You wasn't the Clippers. When I say you wasn't the Clippers,

you didn't have a bunch of individual thinkers, right? I, itself, I think about the club. I think about, you had LeBron James who had control, right? Hey, listen,

we might be coming back. Everybody stay in shape. You had Dwight Howard who stayed in shape. You had, you know, Rondo. Rondo. You had aBron James who had control, right? Hey, listen, we might be coming back. Everybody stay in shape. You had Dwight Howard who stayed in shape. You had, you know, Rondo. Rondo. You had a bunch of guys who you knew, no matter what was going to happen, they were still going to be in some type of shape. Professionals. Everybody else, ah.

Right. Miami, you knew it was going to be in shape. Yep, they were hungry. They were going to be hungry. So, but when you look at your group versus them, there was no way you should have lost two games against the Miami Heat that year. Period. Period. Like, you're saying you lost two games.

How? How is because you have three guys in who are ranked probably, what, 200 in the NBA? You had Bradley. You had. Yep, Avery Bradley. You had Green at the time. Avery Bradley didn't go to the bubble. But he didn't go to the bubble.

But I'm just talking about your starting. Your starting. Caruso. These are the guys you're starting. They're starting, you know, three guys, but those three guys are a little bit better than yours, so they really have an advantage over you at this point in time. So you dropped two games because of that.

But other than that, it should have been 4-0. He don't got no system. When you think about the system, again, going back to it before you go, the system that Dirty Frank never really allows to put in. Why do you call him that? Because he's dirty, man.

He's just Dirty Frank. He's like Frank the Tank. You know what I'm saying? Frank the Tank. So he's freaky. What I'm just saying, like when you don't have a system and you look over there

and you're like, you got KD, you got Book, you got Bill, you got fucking Eric Gordon, you got Bobo, you got a bunch of guys who know how to play the game. And you haven't put in a system where they can relegate how to maneuver in this system. When you got a system and you're a good player, you know where your shots are coming. If I don't know where my fucking shots are coming, I'm out here just hoping you pass me the ball. That's what I feel like Bradley Bill is out there doing. he's out there hoping he gets a shot somewhere in the offense and now that's why i'm saying move around because you're fucking up these two guys who are expecting

shots in scenarios not in the system think about if you put them in a system book ain't gotta never really worry about calling a play or doing a pick and roll and just hoping that he get all this hard shit off. We running the fucking offense, just like Denver. Denver, run that fucking offense. Give it to Jokic. Go down. Pin. Dribble handoff.

Weak side. Pin down. Curl. Boom. Go up. Everybody go to the basket. That shit is weird. One-four high.

One-four high with Booker at the top, right? You can run the, for Beal uh you can run the for bill you can run the iverson cut across yep right where you run him across grayson island goes below which means you have nurkic and kd at the top yep right that means if you throw it to one of them that means booker whoever's guarding him he can just run straight down the lane post up by himself decoy decoy by himself because obviously no one can help because these are two shooters yep that just ran and ran through so there's no help off of them if if you give it to kd and you come off quick pick and roll with him and nurkic no no help no help no help down there's no help and then if nurkic goes

that's kd at the fucking free throw line one-on-one. All day. Like, I'm sitting here like, yo, and let's say you give it to Nurkic, right? KD can just cut same side, slash to the post by yourself. The only help man would be Nurkic's guy at the free throw line. He comes down,

Nurkic dies. Like, I'm just... Not even that. Even if you do the pick and roll with Nurk and KD at the top, after the Iverson cut, Grayson Allen filling down, you'm just... Not even that. Even if you do the pick and roll with Nurk and KD at the top after the Iverson cut, Grayson Allen filling down, you look for Nurk down there. Who's got to help him? Who's got to help on that pick and roll? Grayson Allen's guy. He's wide open in the corner

all day long, wide open three. You just try to figure out where the fuck is the... As a reminder, Grayson Allen, hurt game two. But even, okay, Gordon. Yeah, Dirty Frank, he don't concept... Like, But even, okay, Gordon. I'm just saying. Gordon, yeah, Dirty Frank. He don't concept. Like, I'm sitting here thinking about. The players he has.

I'm thinking about all the little, just out of timeout plays. Just, all right, we don't have nothing. That's like a coach's dream, having those three on the court. Yes. Hawk cut it. Even with. We're going to hawk cut it. And Nurkic is a very good passer.

Passer. Like, I can throw the ball at Nurkic and then run off of. I throw it to Nurkage boom and then alright Katie I'm gonna brush off Katie and try to get the line if I don't get the lob I can do a hand off the Katie because the guy who has to help if Booker and if I come off the lob who has to help has to be Katie's guy Yep, now hand off the Katie or just pass Whoever the fucking one is going to KD. And think about the defense

that's out there against them. It's Rudy on the dribble handoff that's going to have to switch off and go under. Then it's, you know, you get McDaniels off of a KD and making them switch on to someone else where Conley now is on KD in a mismatch. You're creating mismatches

because you have a system where guys know where to go. We're not freelancing. It's not freelance pick and roll. There's just little things you can put in that just makes the offense more dangerous. And that's what Golden State had this whole time.

And that's what Denver has. Facts. Let's keep this thing moving We will stay in the Western Conference quiet Leonard made his comeback for the Clippers game to meeting with the Mavs After missing the last nine games with knee inflammation But Luca put on a show on both sides of the floor to help the Mavs steal the win and home court advantage so Luca dropped 32 points nine rebounds and six assists 11 for 26 from the field, but 5 for 14 from 3.

That's what box is doing. Came up with some big plays down the stretch. More on his defense in a moment. Kyrie had 23, 6 rebounds, 3 dimes, 3 steals. So Harden followed up his 28-point game 1 by dropping 22 points and 8 assists. Paul George also had 22 as well and 4 dimes. Kawhi played 35 minutes. He had 15.7 rebounds, 4 steals, but was 7 for 17 from the field, 0 for 5 from 3.

The Clippers shot a season low, 36.8% from the field in the game, and they were 8 for 30 from 3. And we see what Luka's doing on the offensive side of the ball. Killing and cooking. But he was a big reason for the Mavs' defensive success as well. Just look at that. So you see this player right here. Clippers were 2 for 17 from the field when Luca was the primary defender.

Yo, that's terrible offense, bro. That's terrible. Forcing Kawhi into the air ball. Now, here. Now, go back. Go back. Go back. Go back.

This is for all my hoop. And there's the dagger three. He did go in in case you were wondering. This is for all my hoop heads out there. Here, go back. Keep going. To the defensive play. Keep going. Go back, go back.

All right. Right here. All right. Count it down from here. It's 10 seconds on the shot clock. Hold on. count it down from here. It's 10 seconds on the shot clock. This is why when I said as an offensive player, I would never, I never picked on

the weakest defender. The reason you do not pick on the weakest defender is because the team knows that they're the weakest defender. You know what I'm saying? The team is designed to protect them, right? So when you're trying to go at the defender,

look at the nail guy, right? He is overly over the nail. Like his left foot is supposed to be at the middle of the nail. He's saying, fuck it. I'm on the goddamn elbow. Now you look at the bottom, the middle guy.

He's coming over. So fast forward just a little bit. Play it a little bit. So now look at what Kawhi is looking at. Look. He, Kawhi has no opening. He completely left Westbrook. If he was, like, you have nowhere to go when you're playing against a bad defender.

It looks like, yeah, Luke is playing great defense, but it's great help defense too. It's called elbows and body. Elbows and more than elbows and body. Look, he's not guarding that man. So Kawhi has nowhere to go anyway, right? But that's why you don't go against the guy that you think is the weakest defender.

Go back again. Go back again for us one more time. Bad shot as well, though. Yeah, that's horrible. He has nowhere to go. I feel like even with Russell Westbrook. He sees his man completely leafing right there That's why you set that flare screen or that whatever. Yeah, so I don't see him This is this is standard Jason kid NBA defense elbows and boxes nail

Midline guy low guy. Yes Kyrie's look his guys going through to the corner. So he has to go with him Kalibra He's clearing to nine. He could either stay to go with him. Kalibra, he's clearing 2-9. He could either stay over there with Westbrook on that other elbow, but what he's doing is he's coming back to this other block. Show body. The show body. I got you, elbows and boxes. Now, what Kawhi's doing is what we call stopping the fucking ball.

10 seconds on the shot clock. He's dribble, dribble, dribble. You're wasting dribbles doing nothing right now. So then he keeps going. He tries to go middle. There's a guy right there on the nail. This ball should have went to Powell. Right there.

See, look. Rewind. Now, all the people, and this is why I say stop listening to ESPN and all them fucking people they do not understand fucking basketball they do not know what they're looking at they do not know who's valuable on the team play it a little bit more

the most valuable guy right now is Russell Westbrook he gave himself up, stopped the ball he said a pick his man is helping his man is the one who stopped Kawh. He said a pick. His man is helping. His man is the one who stopped Kawhi. He said a pick for Powell who's actually wide

open for the three. Now, if this ball was in Yokya Chan's, if this ball was in Murray's hand, they would have made this pass, which makes the team better. 100%. That pass goes to that three

and that's a three. Guess who's not at that nail next time? That motherfucker's gone. That motherfucker is not at that nail. Now the next play when Kawhi starts to go ISO basketball he can go middle. That's what makes certain players dangerous. That's what makes certain

players important. See, no one's going to credit Russell Westbrook for this pick. No. See, if Kawhi makes this pass, Kawhi becomes the, whoa, he did a great job. When the great job became because of Russell Westbrook's IQ of understanding who is open. He knows he could have just sat there and became the open guy for the three, but he set the screen because he knows this is a better three-point shooter.

Kawhi doesn't even see that. Kawhi is not thinking of team right now. This is the difference. When you got Kawhi having the ball like this, he's driving middle, but he's not driving middle to make a move because there's already two other guys there. One at the top

at the free throw line and one below him. He's trying to relegate that they come and go back so that he can keep the dribble. If you play it, it's two seconds already at the shot clock. Seven. Six. It can go straight to James Harden on the power.

He still got the ball. He's still straight to James Harden or Powell. Five. He still got the ball. He's still trying to make a play, and he knows that he has two or three people on him. See, now James Harden's open. Pump fake. Now James Harden's open because of Powell cut. See, this is what I'm saying. This is why the offense doesn't look as important as it's supposed to, because the people who

are making the plays are not getting the ball. Powell made a cut that actually engaged. So Russell Westbrook and Powell engaged both the bottom guys. Yep. And Paul George pulls all the way over. Pulls all the way over. All the way over. Bring his man. Now your best, one of your best three

point shooters is by himself unguarded. That is the play with four seconds left. You wouldn't be, I wouldn't, no one minds getting the ball now. If you pass the ball to me and I'm James Harden, this is a great pass. With four seconds on the clock. With four seconds on the clock and I'm by myself. Yep.

Yep. These are the plays that make the better teams great. Yep. That's what players like me realize when you're hurt, when you're watching what made, you know, the Lakers great. What made San Antonio great? What made those Paul Pierce and that team? What made these little plays? Because I'm Kawhi.

I'm making this in my young day when I'm playing. That's the fucking stupid shot I'm taking. Yep. So when you say what makes championship basketball, it's not the play Kawhi's making right now. It's that play that's going to James Harden. It's the play that Russell Westbrook and Powell made. Those are the, what Paul George made. Because Paul George, if Paul George stays at the top

It ain't open. It ain't open. He could play too because he's he's coming over That is the play And and Kawhi has to realize he has to give it up give Hisself up for the team. He's been making this play all regular season He's been me he's been making this what made him a champion though, right. So I don't say he's selfish because he didn't see it this one time. This is what made him a champion in San Antonio. This is what made him a champion in Toronto. Because they were making plays like that. They didn't have all the talent in the world.

But them making these little plays like this is the difference between championship basketball. That's why I can say a guy like Kawhi, I feel like he was constructed. He was a constructed player where he didn't know these plays existed until he was put into these situations where he had to be the star guy. When you're a good player, you know what good plays are. You know what the right plays are. Draw to someone's open. When that guy flashes down the lane and he's not open because you brought somebody

else, you have to make the jump pass. You have to take yourself out of the play, out of scoring position, throw that fucking pass, because he's open. Now, if he comes to the bench in that timeout and he says something to you, you can't fucking go off on him, because he's open. Hey, bro, why why you ain't you know i'm open over there on the weak side oh my bad i didn't see you but you didn't see me for the last three times bro since it's

working they're gonna keep doing it that's why you gotta acknowledge you gotta acknowledge it because it's like bro you at least see me over here i'm trying none of you trying to score bro you're not trying to do give Take what the defense gives you. They're giving us this shot for James every time, and you don't want it because you want to get this shot off. Because you got the weakest defender on you. And you need to score on us.

And I know that's what says, oh, Luka played great defense. We get it. I get the narrative. I knew you had something for it. We got all the notifications. I get the great defense of what we want to put on Luka, right? The reason the Mavs has been the number one defense in the last few months is because you got to see it right here in real time.

Jason Kidd's adjustments. Right? Jason Kidd, and that's how they played, right? And they've probably now trusted what he's been saying is so we're smaller right individually we're not very great at containing the ball but if we can make them do other passes make them throw it all the way to pal make them do all of this that helps us out yes so but he knows this nba is not doing that and that's why it looks the way it looks because that's the scramble defense of some elbows and boxes

Make them throw the weak side Scramble back out close out run them off the three-point line make them shoot a contested to and you gonna live with the defensive Percentages from there we guarantee they gonna shoot under 40% from from Phil So Matt mass fans were blowing up my mentions last night wanted me to relay a message to you about Lucas defense Clippers were two for 17 for the film when Luca was a primary defender after the game Luca had a message for all his critics That say he doesn't play defense Yeah, I mean it's playoffs is different

Trying to double with me. You know I said no double I take pride, you know in my defense, too They're always gonna say that the haters, but it's no double. I take pride, you know, in my defense, too. They're always going to say that, you know, the haters. But it's fine, man. I'm out here enjoying playing basketball. That's fun, man. That's what I do. That's what I want to do my whole life, so I just enjoy doing that. Doubles.

No doubles. I say no double. But the thing is, what makes him a bad defensive player to what makes him a great defensive player all it is is It's help team right you know it's it's the team part of it right so when people say you don't play defense Says who? What what what what metrics I was great at ball on. You didn't blow past me on ball defense. Pick and rolls, okay. Those are my strong points.

Coming off down screens, ah, fuck all that. Right? Running through double screens, I'm good on that. But my man himself, no, no, no, you ain't going nowhere, playboy. Right. Right? Same thing with here. He is a little slow-footed.

Yeah. Right? He's big as shit. So it's like, well, how about this? Make sure they don't get you off the first dribble so we can load up right give us because because you're tall enough So someone tries to back you down. We're not gonna help you. No, he's like cool, right? So it's in their element Now you figured out How to protect him defensively because he knows I can challenge shots. I can keep them from posting me up, right? Well when it comes to taking me off the dribble,

I'm going to have trouble with some of the fast guys. If this was Fox, help. Yes. Right? Help on Fox. Kawhi, he doesn't dribble very well. These guys want to bop, bop, bop, play with the game. Make sure that they can't go to the basket. Make sure you lock it on.

I can defend. Now he becomes an excellent defender, right? That was the adjustments that they made, I believe. They went back to film and they said, Luka, that's a straight line drive, bro. Also, Kawhi slows the Clippers down a little bit. He slows, yeah. I'm talking about even regular season defense for Luka.

When I was having a problem with his defense, I'm like, God damn. In not so many words, a lot of the players have basically said that they do not care about playing defense until the playoffs until the playoffs right but now you're saying the effort is glaring because now something's at stake other than you just your record in the regular season that's why luca wasn't playing defense he didn't feel like he fucking had to it wasn't nothing at stake now that you're in the playoffs and we're watching you play defense yeah you can't you can't afford to show us straight line drives. Now Jason Kidd's saying, I can't afford for it to look that way either.

I need to have somebody back there in the way. We need to have guys in the way saying, alright, we got your help Luca. I mean, as long as Kawhi's in the lineup, that benefits Dallas and their defense. But that's what I always say. I say, when you tell me someone's bad at defense, I can tell you a coach. I can show you his coach.

You say he's bad at defense, then let me show you his coach. Where's the defensive schemes? Backs. I'm looking at the schemes, the defensive schemes. I was an offensive player, an offensive juggernaut. I studied human behavior in defensive schemes. So when someone says, this guy is great at defense, I was like, no he's not.

He's great at defense because he got that motherfucker back there and I don't want to be hit by him. Okay, LeBron, he's good at defense. Okay, you got this guy, he's like,

I got, let's say, Eric Snow, he's great, but he has slow speed. But they got Vrazial back there. Vrazial is a great tracker. Yep. Fuck. I don't want to be,

Vrazial, I don't want to be tracked by the wild Yep. Fuck. I don't want to be Vrazial. I don't want to be tracked by the wild thing. Yep. Right? So when he's out of the game, you're lunch meat. As long as he's in the game, I can go on you because I like to jump as soon as I get past you and he's going to take a charge every time. Yep. Bah.

Right? You know, this guy who likes to block shots, I'm not worried about a shot blocker because you're going to give me the basket. Right? See? So depending on, like, if you're a shot blocker playing you're going to give me the basket. See, so depending on, like if you were a shot blocker playing against me, I like you better because you're going to just give me,

you're not going to try to take a charge or be in position so you're going to give me the lane and then it's between you blocking my shot or me jumping into you, making you fold, raise you out, then block shots. He's fucking trying to take 10 charges a game. And the same thing with Ron Artest Yeah, Ron Artest didn't move laterally like that. So if you can get to catch and go on him

Yeah, he was dead meat. But what would he was best at is if you held the ball? Mm-hmm on the make your move so he take that motherfucker from the fuck right? Yeah, he's so good at forcing you one way. I'm gonna force you here, but he played with the Indiana Pacers Where they load it up hold it up. I got Steven Jackson down here i got jermaine o'neal over here i got all up man i got motherfuckers who lock in and play defense then he took that everywhere he went where i'm gonna force him down here y'all gonna get my help help help so he's not gonna be able to catch and go on me now all i gotta do is stop him in his tracks. And that's what makes you a good defender when inside the team concept, I can

stop everything you want to do. I can isolate all of your individual movements and favorite things you like to do inside of the team game. I can force you down here because I know I got fucking help. This is our principles. If he's not helping, he's not coming

in the game anymore. So I know we're going to do this. That's what our principles. If he's not helping, he's not coming in the game anymore. So I know we're going to do this. That's what makes great defensive players. So Luka is looking great right now because they were able to implement this and actually. They're playing five on one. Yes. Yes.

So let's talk a little bit about Kawhi. Kawhi showed the rush you would expect for a dude who hasn't played in the game in more than three weeks. Didn't, I think, participate in any up and down contact stuff and probably just showed up to shoot around and said, all right, I'm ready to go. What? In the playoffs? Just showed up to shoot around.

All right, I'm good. Hold up. Usually that's not working. Let's get it. Braids tight. So how long does it take to play yourself back into game shape after missing an extended period of time? Depends on what you do. It depends on what you do as a player, right?

But with the knee, I mean, you're limiting the ability to run, condition, do all that stuff. Now, I haven't played since March 31st. You're just going to throw me out there. 35 minutes. I mean, to be honest, I'm going to just be honest. It would be a little bit easier for him to do this because his movements is not a lot of energy. One, two, dribble, little post-up, little fade. This is not a Giannis where he can miss three weeks and then he think he can get it off the glass and just sit here and do all this and not be exhausted, right? So it's like he can really control.

I think getting back in the rhythm of your team is the hardest part. That's the hardest part. And that's what fucked him up last night. So let's talk about that now. How should the Clippers approach using Kawhi in the offense with how good Harden and PG have been playing so far in the series? Man, just because I've been on both sides of it, right? The star player

coming back thinking that I still need the motherfucking ball, and a star player coming back thinking he needs the motherfucking ball, right? So I've been on both sides of it, and it's more the...

As the star player, I should have been more mindful of understanding that they've been playing a certain way without me. And I need to come in, learn how to play with them. The current flow. With the current flow, right? Versus me saying, alright, the captain's back. Everybody get back to your position. Right, right. I know you've been steering

this motherfucker. And look, you've been doing very well. You've been doing good. I'm going to pat you on your back, but get the fuck back then. And clean them fools, boy. Clean them fools. God damn it. fools it's dirty around here and it's been going amazingly great with him as the captain

I gotta learn how to fit in and that's fucking hard to do I'm not even gonna lie to you man it is a very hard thing to come and swallow your pride. Because I guess in real time you think, if you keep the keys, that I would never get them back.

Or we're not going to go as far without me driving it. Yes. But there's the ego. Need to understand this. It doesn't matter. Right? It doesn't matter how we get to the fucking finish line We got to get there if this person's been running this race

Very great for us. I got a I got a I got a trust them Sometimes a great leader has to be a follower at sometimes and we don't learn that until we're fucking done And we're old and we're finished But you got to prepare to as a leader that's taking the back seat for that moment of the flow to stay prepared and ready for when they give you the keys back. Because at some point when it stall out,

we done went as far as we can go without you steering this motherfucker. Here, we're ready for you to go. Now, if you've taken the back seat and you pouting and shit and you over here mad and shit and then they say, hey, here go the keys and you're like, well, where we going's like you're supposed to have been watching where we're going you you're not ready oh man we need you to be ready for when we give you the keys back because we only staring this motherfucker because we're going at a certain speed

and we can't just hand it to you without you fucking up the little like you fucking like don't die we'll slow down and we'll hand it back to you and then we let you go. But a lot of, like you said, pride and ego will get you that. And I don't know if it's too much with Kawhi because he don't say much, but the way that he played last night, you could see that he didn't want to adjust to the flow. It's still the players and they, you know,

just so they don't get on your bad side, they're going to. Yeah. They're going to do it for you. And it's one of those things that you got to basically say, listen, I'll fit into what y'all doing. Y'all are moving the ship, and it's been going well. We've been playing well. And I'll fit in. Don't worry about me.

Don't call no players. You have to go out and say it. I'll figure out how to get my own. Yeah. Why can't Ty Lalu say it, though? Because he's the coach. That's not a coach's thing. That's a player's thing. That's a player's thing. You know that's a player's thing.

Do you know what player has to say? But you know if he's not the outspoken leader, he ain't going to say it. Exactly. That's why he has to say it. He has to say it. That's exactly why he needs to say it. Like Quran, right? This is the primaries ever. When I was hurt, Karan took over leadership, right?

All-star, right? We winning, making the playoffs. And when I came back, you know, the young guy, like, oh, shit, here, here. No, no, it's your keys again. That's when I'm like, nah, not right now. Right. This is it. He's been hitting the game winners.

That's when I realized, okay, I'm the number one option. He's the number three. When I'm not there, he's the number one. Yep. Right? So Antoine was just two. All the time. All the time he was two.

He didn't bump the number one. Right? You know, so Karan went from three to one. And when i came back i i should have been mindful to say all right he's one i gotta go to three right i have to switch roles with him and do that but you know it's you didn't know what it looked like to be at three yeah and that's always the ego for that's just a star player like who i don't know what it looks like to be three again because what PG is always two

or is it James well PG has said I have no problem he's just two PG's always the two so James is moved to the three to the wise on the floor that's why James plays like that though and I never liked the way he played when they on the floor together because he plays the three because he goes he goes and becomes the third option and it don't look the, and it don't look the same. And he don't look the same thing. You need to put Russell Westbrook out there more with him. So, Gil, you... Put James down.

Put James down. So, James has got to be a three. He's not good at the three. He's not good at the three. You talk about Westbrook, but, Gil, you say Tyloo was super happy when Westbrook came to the Clippers because it was the first time they had a leader. Westbrook this season as a leader said, you know what? I'll move to the six-man role to help this team.

Now, Kawhi, as also a leader on this squad, look at the way he's looking now. How drastic of a change do you need? Do you think it could be something as bad as saying, look, man, let this crew rock out? It's only one game. It's one game. And with someone like Westbrook, as you can see, he does do the little things that we do not actually look at, right?

That helps everybody else. So right now it's just an adjustment period, right? They lost one, tried to do a little bit too much. I'm pretty sure they're gonna watch the film just like we did and look at the plays that are, what's the name, looking at, all right, when Luka's on us, what are they doing? Right? Okay, so they're loading up very heavy. So who are the open players?

Boom, boom, boom. But that's the great part about the playoffs. Yeah. I'm surprised why I played 35. 35 minutes. So now if you see a similar situation in Game 3 that you saw in Game 2, series now shifting back to Dallas, at what point do these conversations and decisions need to be had?

No, this is playoffs, man. You're having discussions every moment. You're making adjustments every moment. You're looking at, okay, this is how we played. Okay, even though, what was it? Luka went, what, 10 for 26?

11 for 26. So you're not really worrying about, we did a great job on luca right he hit fucking big shots that's what he does we we got to live with that 10 11 for 26 okay cool where did we fuck up yeah okay okay this guy got more shots than we expected we gave up this many these plays we didn't see and make on the offensive end right those are the adjustments that you make knowing that okay we contained luca doing this what is jason k going to throw in to combat that we have to be ready for that combat that's what the playoffs is about you can't give

away games in the playoffs and thinking that all right it's just one game, right? I strongly believe that Ty Lue cannot look at that game one, come into game two, change what the fuck you did to win game one in order to appease a player. You can't come into game two and be like, we got Kawhi back. Let's figure out how. Here's 35 minutes. No. Go figure it out.

Yeah. Because you just beat their ass the way you played this game, and it felt good. Smacked them. So you come in and you lose the game because you made an adjustment. Now you got to do what? If you're not going to go back to what you did game one, now you're making

a whole nother adjustment. And now the hypothetical is, we don't know if we're going to win or not. Yeah. And if you now lose that game three after making that adjustment in two, now I'm trying to get it back to one in game four. How do you go back to game one? Because you won game one without Kawhi. But that's the playoffs

though, dog. You know what I mean? That's the playoffs, man. You're sitting there trying to outsmart each other, man. And that's the chess part. And the problem with Ty Lou is you've won a championship, you've done it, but you're going up against a player

who is a high-level thinker. Yep. Right? He's, you know, you're dealing with Luka and Jason Kidd at the point guard position, not just fucking Luka. You're dealing with someone who brain moves a lot faster than everybody else when he played. Yep. Right?

So that means he already knows little things. Spill a little water. He ain't got no time. I'll spill a little water over here. Take his shoe off. Right? Hey, the fan. Hey, the fan. He knows all those little tricks and trades to get what he needs to get. Right? So you have to deal with little things like that too. So, you

know, this is a very good battle. It's going to be a great excitement. Exciting series for the most part because you got very high level guys on the court and on the bench. And we got our resident Clippers fan, Gilbert Reins.

We also got to talk about your favorite team in the East and your favorite head coach. Pacers and Bucks met for game two. Pacers looking to bounce back after getting smacked in game one. Pascal Siakam put the team on his back once again. Trash. Another dominant performance.

Your roll. So Siakam followed up his 36.13 rebound game one by dropping a playoff career high 37 points in game two, along with 11 rebounds and six assists. Siakam is the first NBA player to open the playoffs with back-to-back 35-10 games since Wilt did it in 1967. Miles Turner added 22.7 rebounds, six assists. Andrew Nebhart had a 20 piece as well. Tyrese Halliburton finished with 12 points and 12 dimes. Gotta talk a little bit about Dame as well. He followed up his 35-point game, won his first half explosion

by dropping 34 points in game two. Was 10 for 21 from the field. But Pacers got the win in convincing fashion. Took the ball back from Giannis. Katie right there. All day. Come on, you can't lose to I am the captain now. Yes, you can.

I am the captain now. I can't lose to that. Look at me. Halliburton, pass that bitch to me. So the series now heads back to Indianapolis for game three and four. What does Siakam show you these past two games, and what can the Bucks do to try to slow him down? And he be honest.

He understands Basketball and mismatches, right? I Think the player he is right now. I think that's what we expected when That playoff series with Kawhi when they won that championship. This is what they seen in him in Toronto when they were like, this is going to be the guy. He understood the assignment.

I'm not settling. Everybody else can settle. I'm not settling. Small guy on me, give me it to the post. So the thing we said about KD and them, this is how it's supposed to look. You have a small guy on me, give me it to the post. So the thing we said about KD now, this is how it's supposed to look. You have a small guy,

dive, boom. They got no shot blocker back here. Who the fuck is shot blocker? Huh, Frankenstein? Frankenstein ain't blocking nobody back here, man. You know what I mean? So I'm going to go here.

When I get Frankenstein on me, I'm taking him off the drill. Frankenstein is great. Give it for the audience who doesn't know who Frankenstein is., I'm taking him off the drill. Frankenstein is great. Give it for the audience who doesn't know who Frankenstein is. They know who the fuck Frankenstein is. They know who he is. They know who Frankenstein is. They know what he look like, too.

Fucking Lopez, dog. For real. I'm sorry about my own, but I am very disappointed in him. Dirty Frank, Frankenstein. To me, we lost the game because of him. I don't like him on the floor, period, because he just shoot threes, bro. That's all he do. Just fucking, he don't rebound.

He had 17 points. He shot more threes than twos. Man, he had one rebound. That's funny. One rebound. One. The cops are like, I remember. One.

The biggest dude. One. The biggest dude on the club. The number after zero. He used to get a double-double. Brooklyn, he was a double-double guy See stop seven three. It's crazy 20 or 10 Brooklyn. I feel sorry for my man doc man out there with them fucking bums dog See I hold a bomb. I wonder why we was losing all them games cuz he got got them Lopez

I they're not doing his job at all. He's seven foot seven One rebound I got the guard coming off the bench. Pat rebounding. Seven rebounds. Pat has seven. You know what I mean? So I'm like, right now we don't have Giannis to go there and get the ball off the glass and go. Get your big ass down there, man. He's trying to shoot threes all the time.

He's trying to shoot threes. Giannis isn't there because, yeah, didn't we say what? Lopez likes to be the box-out person. Yeah. You don't have Giannis. I don't need no box-out, goddammit. You can't we say what Lopez likes to be the box out person? Yeah, we don't have you don't have I don't need no box out. God. Yeah, you got to go get the ball now I'm feeling sorry for doc right now with that goddamn shit. We got going on man. I lose my best player Yannis Dame out there trying I got Dame doing everything out here and I got big-ass Lopez out there wanting to do what? Let me box. Yeah, this ain't a you did you ain't five dude. You're not five

This is not the box our drill where we box the guy out and let the ball dribble for four damn dribbles He's not this go get the ball. He literally do that shit. He's turning and looking for the guy Someone else get this is not time for that, dawg. I'm going to go get the ball. I'm feeling it. You know, man, I know Doc is like, man, hey, the Nastas, go out there and give me the rebound. At this point, the Nastas, can you get the ball? Just give me the ball.

Just go get it. Just give it to Dame. Is it the nasty time? It might be, man. The nasty time. But Brooke going to get you the 15 points that they're looking for. That's the only difference why you got to have him on the floor. He stretched the floor.

He can't hit the shot. But I need you to rebound. This time, I need you to be. That's what I'm saying. This is the time where you have to make up for everyone else. Giannis is not there. I cannot make up his points, but I can make up his rebounds.

I cannot be Brook Lopez out there getting one rebound. I can't be Brook Lopez out there getting 10 rebounds. I got to be out there trying to get 15. Or Portis got to fucking come up too, though. I can't just put it on Brooke. I mean Porter's good He does it Bobby Bobby gotta be consistent see I come getting the fucking 12 and 13 cuz I had him under not I think

He can do it again wrong. I was wrong 37 and 11 I was wrong because he see the discrepancy the board go to the board He said he's boxing out he's seated discrepancy. Go to the board. Go to the board. Stay there. This man ain't boxing out. The man, he said he's boxing out. He's boxing out the wrong dude. Man. Yeah.

Bobby Portis led the boxing, rebounding with 11. Yeah, he's boxing out Miles Turner. Yeah. Miles Turner. Miles Turner said that three-point line. What the hell are you boxing him out for? Miles don't rebound either. That's why it's good for him to-

I've seen this nigga- You guard Miles because he don't rebound and both of y'all don't rebound. I seen him box out the damn ball boy. You know the dude who sweep up? He, boom. I got you. I got you. I got him, coach.

I got him, coach. He should get you. Like, he's the dude that, I get it. Like, sometimes, Doc, I get you, Doc. Sometimes you just got to give one guy one thing to do, right? Hey, Lopez, box out. Just box out. Okay, Doc. Sometimes you just got to give one guy one thing to do, right? Hey, Lopez, box out. Box out. Okay, coach.

I got you, coach. That's a mad dog. Mark Manson. Mad dog, Mark Manson. Get that, man. Mad dog. Box him out. Where's Robin Lopez?

He's the other way. At least he rebounds. He do, he do. I know he rebounds. God damn it. I guess that was, he do. I know he rebounds. God damn it. I guess that was the twin thing. I boxed out, he rebound. No, but when he came in, when Brooke came in, he had a different program.

They programmed him to score. The Frankenstein. We need you to, we need you. Hey, go score that motherfucker. He was in that bitch. Left hand, right hand. He wasn't shooting no threes. Ever since that vaccine? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The vaccine says. Ever since that vaccine? Shoot that motherfucker. He was in that Right hand every one of them every ever since that vaccine. Oh, yeah

Don't go in there at all suit of it no layups there period Brooke 6.2 career rebounder per day Wow and that's that's that's probably what was it's probably Robin 4.7 numbers and it's probably cuz that high because the beginning of his career I'm pretty sure he ain't been getting six a year that the last like four.7. I'm saying it's probably because that high because the beginning of his career. I'm pretty sure he ain't been getting six a year for the last, like, four, five years. I'm sure. So, how much blame does Doc Rivers deserve for that? Zero. You see? You see what we got?

We got a big man who can't even rebound. What you talking about? Doc don't get none. Your Doc Rivers support. How are you, man? Turned a new leaf, Gil. Damn. He got this damn Adrian goddamn team he done got.

This is false. This is like, Doc got this damn Adrian goddamn team he done got. This is false. This is like, Doc got the Instagram team. I'm calling it Instagram team. With all them nice-ass filters, you thinking you getting the prize. Man, now... You think you getting the prize as soon as they pull it. Oh, my Lord. That's what happened to my man, Doc. The angles.

Oh, Brooke never did do double-double. I was wrong. He was close. He was 18 and 8 in Brooklyn. And then he was 20 and 8 in brooklyn and then he was 20 and 6 20 and 7 i think 8 8 8.6 was his his highest what has been in the last like three years since he's been with milwaukee shit four on the last since he's been in milwaukee is five 4.5 5 4.4 6.7 and 5.2 see i mean i guess it makes sense when you have yannis but he when yannis is Four point five five four point four six point seven and five point two See, I mean, I guess it makes sense when you have Giannis But he when Giannis is he literally just going to get every rebound, but you don't have that right now

so that's not something you can do like like when um Aquaman With Steven Adams you had Aquaman Right so you had Westbrook who went back and got it you don't have Wouldn't be a show without Eric's no getting a name. Oh doc. This is not your problem, yeah. We need to listen to everybody's nicknames. Wouldn't be a show without Eric Snow getting a name. So, Doc, this is not your problem. Baby, keep going.

I know you got some garbage out there. Help is on the way. So you're talking about help being on the way. That may not be the case, Gil. So according to Shams, Giannis may not be returning to the court in the near future, will likely be unavailable until later in the series, if at all. So depending on how things shake out. On an episode of Run It Back today, Sean said the following. I'm told Giannis has at least started to do

some stationary jump shooting, but still not much cutting, no scrimmaging, no all-out running yet. I think the Bucks have to be prepared to keep playing on without Giannis. Hell yeah. So Dame is being Dame. Didn't they say he was missing the first series?

The first series, yeah. Sean's reported that? Sean's. I swear to God, I swear to God, we said it when he got injured. He ain't coming back because it's a low. Achilles. It's a high Achilles, low what's-her-name, and we've seen what happened to what. So according to Gilbert Arenas of Gilills arena presented by underdog fantasy wolf wolf

Yeah, we didn't I didn't we didn't pretend that we've never seen this before we played we know what the injury is So when he was saying all this he no motherfucker That's you would be a dumbass if you decided to come back how he plays the game with this injury We know what this injury is, but we've seen it through Greco Nigerian superhuman But we know like if you get like the sports her Like, we know, like, if you get, like, the sports hernia, we know it starts and then it moves up.

We... There's been enough athletes to see how it's been panned out. So with something like this, we know KD, we know anyone who's had this injury,

we know it started with the low calf strain. Right? Low calf strain. I knew he was going to miss his whole series. So, yeah, he's not coming back, so.

I got a question, though. What's up with Halliburton? You think that hammy is still? I want to know, is he really as good as we think? Now, hear me out. I think he's a traditional point guard that had a breakout season where guys didn't adjust to him being the traditional point guard that he is when you're a traditional point guard you don't have to have a signature move you don't have to have iso game you don't have to have a get to your bucket game. He don't got

that. He's very random. He don't got that. He can't go get you 25 every night. He can't go get you 20 every night, but he can go get you 15 assists. Yeah, he can get you 10 to 15 assists, one turnover. Yeah, he's going to run the offense, right? So I'm looking at the game and I'm like, even when

I do my pick-ems and I'm picking them, I'm like, damn, is he going to get 17 tonight? Pat Bev out there hounding them. They're playing a strategic defense on them, but it's like he's not trying to get his buckets. All right? So if the team lose based on the fact that Siakam, they adjust to Siakam, which I think Doc will do, we're going to take the ball out of his hands. Who's going to score on the Pacers?

If he's not the guy that's like, I can get a bucket when I need to get a bucket. I don't know if he can yet. I don't know if his game has gotten there. I think when you can hide yourself as a player based on not getting accolades and attention for being good, you can hide like a Mike Bibby, like a Kevin Martin.

Where Mike Bibby was so good, he didn't get the attention. He wasn't an all-star or none of that, but he would torch your ass for 20 a game. Every game. Oh, he had a bucket for you. Every game. But it wasn't like you had that attention on him. It wasn't really ever acknowledged. Now he got acknowledged. Now we know. You gotta come,

you gotta get this shit now. And I'm thinking, I'm like, alright, maybe he got acknowledged. Now we know. Got a spotlight on him. You got to come get, you got to get this shit now. And I'm thinking, I'm like, all right, maybe he got too much too early. And now it looks like he can be exposed. He went on a, I mean, his run was crazy. I think it's hard to really judge because, you remember, he hurt his hamstring. And the only reason he came back is because that 65 game rule bullshit. Mm-hmm. Right? So you remember he even said, well, because of the 65, I can't get my money. And he came back the next day. So he doesn't, from his stats, he doesn't look like he was doing what he was doing before the injury.

Right? So it seemed like he's more baby in it, so he's not offensively aggressive at trying to get his shots. Right? It seemed's he's doing more settling from the three-point line but that's the one tool is not the physical because he's not he's not out there lagging and he not limping he not doing that it may be a mental thing that he's took in the backseat to that because he can't get his rhythm back to that but I think that offense was set up for him to get 17 assists, two turnovers. I mean,

no motherfucker's averaging. He took 22 shots, 28 shots, 22, 22 before the injury. And he hasn't took... Yeah, I really think it's an interesting...

He's only taken 22 shots, over 20 shots one time since he's got back from the injury. Before that, he was taking 22,

28, 22, 23. So that's the confidence that he had. Yeah, we saw the shooting 23. So that's the confidence that he had. Yeah, we saw the shooting drop. We had that whole big argument over him. So it's one of those things I don't, I think, you know, for the most part, I think he's, because he has Siakam now,

he didn't have him before. I think because he has Siakam, he has a guy who can get us the buckets and the half court. And I think he's just adjusted his game itself. If they don't have Siakam, I think they're gonna go more into the high octane like I was before before yeah It's all right. I think they're a better team Now because they have a dude who can actually go yeah He don't have to take a pressure off, but at some point you got to figure Doc Rivers being your favorite head coach being

savvy at playoff adjustments, will try to shut down Siakam. So you're going to need Miles Turner and the rest of these guys to pick up the scoring load. But do you think Haliburton can do that based off what you've seen in these first two games? And that's why I say Dame has to take that challenge and Pat Bev has to take that challenge and say, do he got that in his game to give us 20, 25, and 13? Do he got that? Because Miles Turner, he going to get you his 10 and 12 or 15 and 6 or 7.

But if you shut down Siakam, you're depending on T.J. Conley. T.J. McConnell. That's what I'm saying. I don't believe that guy was fucking shit up T.J. Conley. I don't believe that. See, That's what I'm saying. Conley, that guy was focusing on T.J. Conley. I don't see. That's what I said. With that, it's one of those things that we know he's capable. He averages 20, right?

So I don't think that's a bluff that you want to try out and say, all right, we're going to focus on Siakam and just leave Hallie to do what Hallie was doing before Siakam got here. That's not what I want. I mean, why wouldn't you? Because he averages 20. And if you do that, he might average 20 fucking assists. The problem is he's going to get the assist. It's like Jokic. They're going to get the assist

because that's what they do naturally. So it's like, let Miles, let's just sit off Miles and let Miles shoot 33. But their adjustment, I think Doc's adjustment last game, which is why they lost, is what they allowed Siakam to do game one, game two. We're just letting him do him. But this game two was letting him do the same thing where the guys were hitting shots.

Holly still wasn't doing nothing. He's 12 points. So if you can neutralize Siakam, bring the attention to him, and force Hallie to step up, does he step up? That's the question. Does he step up? Because who else is going to step up?

Offensively too for Bucks, I think Dame needs to reconsider how he's playing. And the reason I say that is I think Dame needs to reconsider how He's playing And the reason I say that is is shooting threes is contagious. Yes, right. It's contagious

Right. Everybody wants to be a part of it, you know Chicks chicks love the fans and players right Dame Dame comes out and he's shooting threes he makes it makes everybody else want to chuck them ships yep everybody else want to chuck them shits so the fact that everybody's doing all this chucking and shit nobody's doing what they need to do. Because Dame, in that first half, I think he was the only one that shot free throws. Yep. It was like him with six, and I think somebody else had two, then it was just zero all the way across the board.

So he needs to understand, you can shoot threes and take these wild threes, but that entices everybody else to just settle. We cannot settle all the time. In the second half, he got better at it because I think he was like, out of his first 11 or 12 shots, 11 was threes. It's like, ah, you can't. Because now he wants to shoot threes. Indiana's offense is so high-powered, even before Siakam got there.

I don't think you even want to take that risk of letting them just run free because you're all focused on Siakam because clearly the team can score. They've been running the score up all year. But the difference, I think, personally, is Middleton. Middleton is not. He's giving me Michael Red declining years vibe. Right? So Michael Red,

when he came off his declining years. His all-star. Before he had the Michael, Michael Red was the killer. After that injury, you could see he was lingering with it.

You know, it just wasn't the same. He doesn't look like him. He doesn't look the same. And giving me 15, six and five, and 36 minutes, and Gil saying, like, all right, we don't need Klay because Klay can't do what Middleton does,

which is post up and get us this, that, and that. And he's not giving us that. No Giannis. You got 22 from Lopez, and most of those are threes. You got 34 from Dame, and most of those are threes. So got 34 from Dame and most of those are threes So now you got Portis who's gonna give you your twos cuz he's a mid-range guy, but he plays the power forward Yeah, so Middleton, you know any pressure on the defense. You got to give me 20. Yeah, give that And India don't even play no defense. I know

If I decided to say art For giggles. Hey hey Lopez let me push you up real quick thank you it's gonna guard you who the fuck is gonna stop you down there Rex like do you the are you forgetting you you big slug down there huh I don't think you forgot hey I guess he see. Oh, I have Siakam on me. Oh, shit. Doc. Little guy. Doc. Hey. No, no.

Whoa, whoa. Doc. No, don't be yelling. Oh. Drop Brooke. Okay, okay. Drop Brooke. That's what I'm saying.

Drop Brooke. I thought you were saying something negative. No, no. Drop Brooke. Drop Brooke. I'm about to swing on your plate. I'm about to swing on your plate. Where is Brooke stuck at?

Three-point line. Top of the key. Top of the key. Hey, they playing three-point, three-point. That's it. That's, they playing 3 point to 3 point line. That's it. That's what they're running for. Take it easy big fella. Man, we good. We good, we good. You good, we good. So imagine if you do pick and roll with Brooke. You go back door? Cool. You pick

and roll with Brooke and then throw it in and let him work down there. That's a different game. When they go small, you got Siakam on, drop. You know why? Because they're doing it to you. Yes. Right? You switching on, he's saying, hold on.

I'm just going to take you to the basket. Yep. I'm going to take you to the basket because there's nobody back there to block me. Like, if you don't block me, there ain't nobody back there to block me. And then if you jump and try to block me, we're going to get the offensive rebound because, ah. And that habit of pick and pop for Brooke is such a habit. It's an addiction. I hate it. I see it. You fall in love with it.

He just fell in love with it a long time ago. It's like pick and pop, pick and pop, pick and pop. It's like you seven too, bro. Roll to the basket. Get that bitch and joker that bitch. You little joker. You could be little joker. You have to make up for what Giannis brings to the game.

So if Giannis was the driver that put pressure... Nobody is. That's it. Nobody. For the Bucs. They living and dying by the three. We're going to go to Indiana. We're going to have... It's Indiana. We ain't got shit to do. Right? We're going to be at the... Was that the Benson? No, no, no.

The core. No, no, no. The Peabody. No. That's Memphis, right? No, the Peabody is Milwaukee. No, Peabody is Memphis with the Ducks, right? No, we're playing Indiana, dog. We're going to Indiana. No, that's the Conrad. Conrad. That's the Conrad. Ain't that part of the Hilton though, the H a Conrad Conrad Ain't that part of you know, the Hilton Conrad, you know No, Paris and make sure you make sure doc got that presidential sweet man get the thinking man and we're gonna go on and we Smack them boys, baby. We are still looking for a hotel sponsor. Let's move on to mostly fans As a reminder support this show download the underdog Underdog Fantasy Abuse promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.

Always a safe move to ride Doc Rivers. Whoa. Higher or lower? Ayo, pause. Oops, did a loop. Excuse me. Gil's riding Doc. Whoa.

Yeehaw. With the high bars. That was wild. To the chip, baby. Yeehaw. With the high bars. That was wild. To the chip, baby. That was wild. To the chip. That was wild as hell. God damn.

I'm on a Doc train like, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Running a train with Doc. Did y'all see Brandon at the game? We saw him. We seen him. Like, I was a fit. Like, hold on, brother.

The reason we lost is because you took your goofy ass down there. You're supposed to be at the crypto. Your team is the Lakers, bro. You are the Lakers. Don't come down there with that dirty energy, dog. Lakers is on the road. Don't come down there with that dirty energy, you freaking us Buck fans, man. This ain't your team no more, dog.

Mr. B may or may not have played the game. Talking to Tony Brothers during the... Putting that kind of pressure on us, man. Over there telling Tony Brothers that... Come on, Tony. He don't even...

He ain't even with us, dog. He's a Laker fan, dog. He's a Laker boy. In the one game he went to, the nigga's lost. I'm like, how he get back? The one game. Soon as you showed up, man. Soon as he showed up, man.

At the ass whoops. So, first question is an email question from underdog user Wamba Wamba Stan. Should the NBA split the defensive player of the year award into best post defender and best perimeter defender? So, make it two awards. So, best perimeter defender gets an award, best post defender gets an award. I like that. I like that.

It's so hard now because this is what you've, this is what has been through history. So it's, you can't change, you can't change it up now because you've already made it a thing. Just like, remember, when the ball was coming in. And the guys today or back then was like, we don't want this ball because we don't want no advantage over the guys who started this game. If it's been leather, it's going to stay leather. We don't want no help shooting better

or getting easier, things like that. Same thing with defense. If this has been the rules on how you determine defensive players, then you have to keep it the same way. That's just the way it has to be. Then there could be too much gray because you do have some guards that are better post defenders

and you have some posts that can guard the perimeter better. So, like, then how would you distinguish what stats trump what stats? Like, maybe you have a big that gets more steals, but then you have a big that gets more defensive boards. I think it would just get too... I think you just do guard defensive player of the year and big man defensive player of the year. But you can't.

And the reason you can't is because it's not... Because what if you're a really good guard defender and you just get posted up all the time because people don't want to play you? No, I'm just saying, give you a guard defensive player of the year. Like the guards, out of all the guards, who's the best defender of the year?

But how do you quantify that? Just the same way you would... I mean, the same way that guards don't get the defensive player of the year. But how do you quantify that? Just the same way you would- I mean the same way that guards don't get the defensive player of the year that much now because there's no way to always quantify what guards do on the court. No, but when Ronald Chess won it twice, he won it because he was literally taking the ball from people, the deflections, the steals, being in the passing lane. All of those different things created metrics because the Indiana Pacers were a defensive team.

He set the tone defensively as a guard. So you look at the bigs. Bigs usually win it because blocks is a big determining factor of defense. Blocks and rebounds. Rebounds. So you look at those two compared to just steals. CP led the league in steals for so many years and never got a defensive player of the year. AR led the league in steals for so many years and never got defensive player of the year.

AR led the league in steals. So what if a guard had hella defensive boards, not as many steals, and you have a guard that gets hella steals and not that many defensive boards? But if you have a guard that's picking up full court, that's picking up full court, you can't get past him.

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right? Now, that's... Like, you can't get past him, but once you get into the half court he's irrelevant to the defense because his mans are not scoring your passes to the puck so his rating doesn't go anywhere it's one of those things where it's like whatever it is just let us complain you know i mean just let us fucking complain because we're gonna disagree with everything you got going on

right you know just like you know you're giving the shit to Maxie, right? Most improved player? Most improved. Everyone. There's a lot of people upset about that. He's the number zero, so, you know, I'm going to give him his respect. Good job, Gil. I'm going to give him his respect as being, you know, zero in what he's done.

But I don't think your most improved was warranted to how you finished the season. Versus, right, you have a plus five to what you did last year, right? All your scoring and all your shooting percentages were down besides your free throws. So three-point shootage, field goal percentage shootage was down. Versus a guy who wasn't a starter, came off the bench, right, started, had a plus 10. His shooting percentage was up, right? So you have these two factors. Now we're going to say, all right, what was the winning?

How was your team affected winning? Well, they made the playoffs, right? You made the playoffs, but without your best player, you were 16 and 27. So without your best player, you were a bottom-feeding team under your realm, right? That all takes a part of it.

Absolutely. Right? So it's like, so we will get into that tomorrow. Oh, too late. I already got into it. Not enough, Gil. Not enough to get a good video clip out of it. I mean, just that one.

I mean, I'm just saying. That was a teaser, ladies. But either one is zero. Both are zeros. So it's just like little things like that. It's like, eh, y'all got it wrong. But I'm not mad at the person. His name was very high at the beginning.

So who are you saying he should have got it? Who should have got it? Kobe White. See? Kobe White averaged nine last year coming off the bench. He's averaging 19 this year. They made the, you know. Absolutely. Right. You know what I mean? That's, that's, the assists went up. Everything went up. You know, Youngfellow averaged 20 this year, 25.9. Embiid went down. We were saying he was it because they were winning. Embiid, your record is trash

as you being a leader. And y'all take it. Embiid had to come back to put you guys in the playoffs. So you being the most improved kind of like, well, that's a good place to wrap up. I'm sorry. No, it's all good. You just, you know. You know, it's just sometimes.

Messing up people's workflow. But that's what I'm saying. It's just like little things like that. Like, we're going to complain about it because we're players. Right? And it's just, we see the game different because we're in it. Yeah. Right?

And it's just like little things like that. That's what I said. Like, even with us, we're going to argue top five, top ten until we fight. So how the fuck are y'all coming up with a list? How the fuck y'all coming up with a list? You put ten of us in there, ain't no motherfucking

MVP. God damn it. Ain't no MVP. Come on here and debate. We ain't even part of it, but just us arguing about it, we might throw blows on who is the real MVP. That's bullshit. Get the fuck out of here, nigga. You talking about what you just called me?

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