Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Nikola Jokic & The Sensitive NBA Refs

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts To Nikola Jokic & The NBA Ref Show as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew react to the horrendous ejection of Jokic in last nights Denver Nuggets game and discuss if the NBA has a larger issue with its referees being too sensitive. They also break down Giannis Antetokounmpo's recent dominance and debate whether or not the NBA's most dominant player has a bag. Then they preview the debut of the Phoenix Suns' Big 3 and analyze how Kevin Durant has been able to carry the load so far this season without Devin Booker and Bradley Beal by his side. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:05 WTF Is Going On With Angel Reese? 0:19:35 Breaking Down NIL 0:32:10 Slippery Courts 0:39:33 Best/Worst Courts You Played On 0:44:38 NBA Refs Are Getting Sensitive  0:48:25 KD is Carrying the Suns 1:06:50 Is KD The Most Skilled Player In The NBA 1:11:36 Can The Bucks Offense Make Up For Their Defense? 1:29:31 Does Giannis Have a Bag? 1:52:39 Countdown to Ja's Return 1:58:00 MostlyFans 2:05:27 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome back to Gil Dorina for getting my $100 fantasy. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me. This is my school. This is what I was doing when I was about to live. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Selamat malam! Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Woo! Woo! Let's go! It's almost Thanksgiving, y'all. We made it. Ooh. Vacation time! You hear that? You hear that? We made it to what?

I didn't. That's what that ooh was. You know what time it is. But this is Gil's Reader presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us I'm gonna send me what you got. Yes, I guess what those was a cold salmon peach That hardened We got Lexi Brown back with us. Her dog, Cannon. Getting bigger every day.

Yes, he's growing. No accidents in over a week. Don't talk too soon. Don't let me, Jason. But Cannon out here looking good. He was licking my toes earlier. I just wanted to let you know. Man, watch out.

He had sandals on. I didn't know what was going on. Watch out. Cannon, no toe licking. Look. We got Rashad McCann back back with us our resident Celtics fan Expand with the crowd sit down with sniper man. Shout out to my homie sit down with sniper for the greats We are here doing advertisements for the people man. You're doing a lot for the culture every time you pull up here you

Got somebody's bureau They can't say I don't support. Walking billboard. They don't support me but I support them. You know what I'm saying? My mother just leave my shit. Blaine they don't even like my shit. I check the greatness website. They don't even follow me. My mother just go ahead and say could you wear this? Yeah I wear it man. When's the greatness stuff launching?

I check the website. Man after Christmas. Y'all need big-nig sizes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to put it together. I'm trying to figure out what my collar is going to be. Is it going to be T-shirts with graphics on them? For sure.

Like the 30 backpack? They've been asking for that. They've been asking for that. It's going to sell out as soon as I put that up. We at that. Yeah, we at that point. There's a lot of places we can't go on this show. We at that point. People want that beef, man. We at that. Yeah, we at that point. There's a lot of places we can't go on this show. We at that point.

We want that beef, but. Gil say change the Gucci to Louis Vuitton. Different color schemes on the backpack. I'm with it. Why we can't pull up? Gil. We got security. That's fair.

We got a road to East. Secret service. Here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Two-time MVP Nikola Jokic was the latest superstar to get ejected from a game for some BS. Does the league need to put the refs in their place? Giannis is one of the most dominant players in the league, but does he actually have a bag? He seems to think so. And KD has been cooking this season, but is he the most skilled player in the league right now?

When are we going to see the big three on the court together? I need a jersey. It's not happening. It's not going to happen. I didn't know Bradley Beal's back was that messed up. He needs a bacchiotomy. A bacchiotomy. He's going to miss at least another couple weeks.

Another couple weeks? KD been holding it down. They're still doing good enough, despite not having the whole crew there. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. Use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.

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You already know what it is. And since it's Thanksgiving, we see everybody in the chat filling in. If you drop some good Thanksgiving-related questions, we are doing a special Mostly Fans show that's dropping this Thursday. We're answering all y'all questions. Thanksgiving, regular, whatever you got,

hit us with your best questions and check out that show Thursday to see if we answered them. And, you know, this is our last live show of the week, so we're doing a special Gil's Arena Thanksgiving giveaway. Thanksgiving giveaway? Thanksgiving giveaway to get ready for Turkey Day. I can't take credit for it. Who put that in the doc?

That's better. Okay, that was... Don't give him credit. Don't give that nigga no fucking credit, man. Hell no. He can't even drive give that nigga no fucking credit, man. Hell no. He can't even drive out here. Fuck that nigga, man. He live in Long Beach. He live in Long Beach as well.

He gotta leave like at five in the morning. Hell yeah. You gotta spend that gas. I gotta spend it. You gotta spend it. Y'all see me wearing this AirPod every show. That's actually bearing in my ear, and he has some choice things to say to you. A lot of air words.

No, I'm just kidding. But we're doing a special thanks giveaway today. And it's for all you guys in the chat. We want to give you all some love for all the love that you all show us. All the hate, too. But, you know, sometimes hate can get you paid. So, today, when we hit 15,000 viewers on the show, Gil is giving someone a free pair of Adidas. Are they Agent Zeros?

Ken, you took the Yeezys yesterday. Agent Zeros? Let's go Agent Zeros. We got Arden's tray, Agent Zeros. Ken, you took the Yeezy boost yesterday. I had to just let him have them. The new Ant-Man's too now. The Ants.

The new Ant-Man. They're Adidas too. I haven't got mine yet. Oh, Lord. Oh, wow. That's a surprise. To be honest, I haven't even ordered them. I haven't even said that. You don't need to order anymore, Gil. They need to send. They need to read the product.

Nah, because I'll be trying to get the colors that's not out yet. So like I'll like, because you know the Christmas colors will be made if one of those play on Christmas, and then those are the ones I'll go for. Because I get to wear it before they do. But like I said, 15,000 followers, free paradiddles. If we get to 20,000 followers, not if, when, because we're going to do it, someone is getting a signed ball by the Gilson Redskins. Before they do. But like I said, 15,000 followers, free paraditas. If we get to 20,000 followers, not if, when, because we're going to do it. Someone is getting a signed ball by the Gills Arena crew.

There's a ball right there. Lex, you got to add your name to it. What's a nice ball? That's that good leather. Where should I start? Nah, that's not that good leather. That's the indoor out. Damn, Gil, they can't see it at all.

That's the indoor out. Outdoor ball. That's the outdoor out. You can bring it anywhere, though. That's the indoor-outdoor ball. That's the outdoor-outdoor ball. That's a good thing. Show your friends. You can even get some buckets with it with the official Gil's Arena signed basketball. That's at 20,000 viewers. If we get to 25,000, which would be a new Gil's Arena record, but I think y'all can do it because a lot of y'all lazy ain't got shit to do this week.

We're giving someone a Tough Crowd starter pack courtesy of Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. If you've been on the Tough Crowd site, you know it's very upper echelon gourmet clothing out of a lot of your budgets. So go ahead and get this price pack. Throwing shots today. I'm just saying, y'all can now wear Tough Crowd. Shane. Shane.

Shane. It's up for everybody. Shane. It's an upper echelon brand. Gucci, Louis V, Tough Crowd. You get the Tough Crowd starter pack if we get to 25,000 and if we hit 30,000 I'm pissed him off last night Every day

Going back read no every day New Drake the new Drake the new Drake the look album came out. He was he's been feeling himself Light-skinned as you nice a tough time of year for life in a people bar And then you might need to Andre 3000. Yeah I'm listen to it over on the way over here sitting there in a steam calm you down. Yeah, come y'all down I appreciate it. I drink 3000 enjoyed it artistic expression. I was gonna say that to a shout out to Andre 2000 man On the it's right the older breaking hip-hop album is for the new generation. There's new hip-hop They did put it in a rap category. It's new hip-hop. They did put it in the rap category.

It's new hip-hop. I don't know who is they, but someone put that album in a rap category. There's not one rap on... There's not even a word. It is a lot of rapping. There's no word. You guys seen Pootie Tank.

Oh, there it is. Pootie Tank. Man, don't need no words. No, what I'm saying is, wouldn't this be the new thing, like when you go to spas now, when you go to like Meditation any meditation sound bowl. No, he was this was smart. He's thinking bigger. Yeah. Yeah all the Asia

Yeah, just not check all the all the spa massage. Do they play do they play stuff in like yoga classes? Everything Pilates, I almost fell asleep on the way over here. Well, it is, man. Who's driving this? Smart man. No, that's good. That was good. And if we hit 30,000 viewers, somebody is getting one of Gil's signed jerseys from his secret staff.

You see the wall. He got a whole secret staff's jersey we ain't never seen before, but from NBA superstars. No 80s jerseys. You ain't got no 80s jerseys? You got what? You got some bad boys? He ain't got no 80s. He got no old school jerseys. Oh yeah, I be giving them shits away. 80s? Oh man. I'm gonna give you a Manny Johnson microwave. Bird hat hat. Bird hat hat? You gave away the bird? Okay, to be honest, this is my rule of thumb, when I was playing, I collected 500 jerseys.

Wow. So I had Will Chamberlain signed 100. So I was, and then I realized when I put them on a wall, when I look at them, it gives me no nothing. Right? Like I, I can't relate to it. Right. So I want, when I look at, you know, when I'm retired, obviously, 50, 60, when you look

at something, you can, the memory of, we played against Auburn, we hit the big shot. Okay. Right? So that's the reason that, you know, like some of my jerseys I just gave away because like the Dr. J's and all that, yeah, they're great, but I don't. There's no like memory. There's no memory of it. Did you say you had a signed Will Chamberlain jersey?

Yeah, Will Chamberlain 100. With him holding this like the 100 or something? Yeah, it had the what's the name and everything. Okay. you had a signed Will Chamberlain jersey? Yeah, Will Chamberlain 100. With him holding the 100 something? Yeah, it had the what's-her-name and everything. Okay. I'm not gonna lie, man, I threw a lot of my shits away. Just because I stopped fucking with niggas. I just didn't want to see them. I was just like, man, what do I got this for?

I didn't even give them away. That's why I feel so bad now. I kept my Kobe. I kept my Kobe. I kept my Gilbert. I killed LeBron's Those are don't like three major NBA niggas and I care everybody else Gotta go. I just I just it's like when you I just like like when I look at just like like especially like KG and an AI those are the hardest two. That's why I got them together.

They're the hardest two jerseys. It took me, until I made the All-Star game, so it took me, you know, damn near six, seven years before,

you know, they would sign it. I love those Sixers jerseys. Yeah. Yeah, that shit is epic. But when we hit 30,000, somebody's getting to sign a jersey,

so we'll be announcing the winners throughout the show. To enter, click the link pinned to the top of the chat right now. Put your information in there. We'll start announcing winners. Give yourself an opportunity. Help us help you. It's Thanksgiving. We're doing a Thanksgiving giveaway for the people.

And as a reminder, we are doing the first annual Gills Arena shootout coming this January, but we're having our prelims. So all you got to do... It's 16 people. We're going to do 16. And the prelims? We're doing a preliminary? We're letting at-large bidders come in.

We're doing a special tryout. All you got to do is go to the Gills Arena Discord page to enter, and we're going to select... Wait, how many fans? There's more than two now, right? Two fans from the Discord page. I don't know. Okay.

Yeah, I think just two regular fans from the Discord page. Two average Joes hit the Discord page. That'll be up in a second. And the tryout will be December 16th at the District Court in Chatsworth, where our top 16 finishers will qualify for the Gills Arena Shootout on January 20th, 2024. Can we go watch that? The prelims? Yeah.

Are you going? Yes. Okay, I'll go too. So we got our two fan winners, our 16-time winners. We'll be there. We got our Gills Arena crew. It's a lot of... So far, they said 120-something people have signed up to this.

Really? Trying to take the curl Go suit up put the iron man suit on in a while man. I got this Put this motherfucker on man My battery back in I think it won'tiggas want me to go where I'm up. Winner take all, grand prize, $100,000. You heard that right. Underdog Fantasy is dipping into the stash.

$100,000 to the winner of the competition. It's going to be exciting. We all going to be there. Everybody on this couch except me will be participating. Hey, man, listen. This is like the American idol of basketball, of shooting. We know how American Idol starts off.

So be on the lookout. The hilarious. What are you here for? What are you going to do for us today? Come on, have fun. It should be fun. Like I said, $100,000 to the winner. So go ahead and sign up on the Discord page or pull up to the district December 16th. Ooh, this is going to be fun. Like I said, $100,000 to the winner. So go ahead and sign up on the Discord page or pull up to the district.

December 16th. Ooh, this is going to be exciting. December 16th is the tryouts, right? Yeah, tryouts. So 16 people will move on to face our crew. We also got two creators, Jenna Bandy and Jessica. That's right around the corner. It's coming.

Yeah, that's not for us, though. But we're going to have food trucks out there. We're going to have entertainment and, you know.'re going to have entertainment. And, you know. Make some work. Lower tier. Lower tier work. Hey, hey. That's a good idea.

That's a good... I'm going to... Y'all not ready for the Gills Arena work off, but that's... No, no, we working. Down the road. I'm starting a podcast when I get back, and we're going to have that in line. A calendar.

A work off. Magazine. It's going to be a whole... Men and women. There's men in line. It's calendar a work magazine. It's gonna be a There's men work work work work session Prelims won't be live the name prelims won't be live that'll be pre-recorded the January 20th will be live event Live y'all pull up make sure y'all support the movement. $100,000. If that'll get you excited, I don't know what will.

Man. But let's get into the show. We got to talk about some stuff going on on women's side in college basketball. Listen, to be honest, y'all, I'm so greedy. Like, I want that $100,000. You? Like, I want it. I do.

What y'all talking about? I want that $100,000. I know it says, use a reason. But God damn Like, I want it. I do. What y'all talking about? I mean, like, I know it says Gilles Marie, but God damn it, I want it. I see how serious you are when we bring it up. You don't really be, you just be like... Nah, Gil, you look... You look like you'd be traveling if you win your own

shootout. Like, I know, like, you're gonna... Like, for me not to take it serious, they're gonna just say, like, Gil, you can't participate. Like, it's gonna be one of those, like, like you you can't participate because your name is on it I'm one of the dudes that like I Want to win it every single year just so people go like it must be really it's like Drake's Yes, Molly my shot is so rigged Sorry

It's come from the gods themselves When Tim said to, I was like, Gilbert is already ready to go with this. He's ready to go. He can't wait to... He's not gonna let anyone... First of all, competitors don't want to lose, period. He ultimate competitor, so I know as soon as they say that shit...

There's a very good chance he win. Who win? Who win? He gonna be like the mayor on the wire. That's a good chance. No, no, no, no. I went to the doctor, had him check it, make sure everything, all the muscles is right, everything. Yeah, you told him it was malfunctioning. He was like, man, it was about a couple months ago, this motherfucker wouldn't...

Yeah. ...try to turn this motherfucker on, it wouldn't turn on. I'm telling the fans right now, look, if they tell me I can't participate, I'm putting my arm on eBay. Right? I'm putting it on eBay for the highest bidder. All right? You can borrow the arm for the contest. Guarantee win. So if you not competing, who winning?

Who you putting your faith in? Wait, are you or are you going to be in it? I said if you not competing, that means that leaves me and the rest of them. Me. Pick me. The rest of them me Pick me the rest of them They got names I got no

And I warmed up yet you feel me huh Lexi's down. Hey, let's see gonna be down bash feeling bad I'm gonna have her feelings bad Ball again chase the ball. It ain't this ball. I want to say the ball again I don't say that y'all be saying that some men The men be wanted to change about. Yeah, I never say that cuz the ball is smaller and the rim is bigger You can throw it right in there there all my hands are smaller, too I will let's get it down Basketball discourse on this lovely show gives arena presented by underdog fantasy So we got to talk a little bit about Angel Reese

Been a big trending story that we've all been monitoring trying to figure out what the fuck is going on So Angel Reese mister second straight game as number seven LSU smacked Texas Southern on Monday night. In her last appearance, the 2023 NCAA Tournament's most outstanding player was benched for the second half against Kent State. And what Kim Mulkey called a coach's decision. Angel was not in uniform tonight. Really? Angel is a part of this basketball team. And Angel will be back sooner than later.

So is she practicing, ma'am? I'm giving you my answer, Glenn. Okay. She sounded like a mom from the blind side. Michael, Angel, can you? Angel, would you like to play in the game? Because we need you. Okay, Angel?

Such a weird situation. Angel, do you have a pen? I mean, I can understand whatever is going on. You do want to protect your players so you don't want to put their business out. So I do understand that. But she has to provide some type of clarity on the situation because the things I've seen online, as far as, as like the speculation has been like outrageous.

Yeah. And she's still a kid. Yeah. Like this is a young lady, 21 years old, and people are just tearing her down on the internet and like that's not okay. And for her to, and for Kim to be like I'm protecting my players, you're not because she's like getting like her character is being being completely assassinated online. And that's your response is she'll be back sooner than later.

What does that even mean? I don't even know what that means. Sooner than later. And it's sad because their schedule is so horrible. Yeah. It doesn't really matter. You think that's why they're... Yeah, if they had a top 25 schedule,

like, coming up, then Angel, I think Angel would be on the court right now, but they're playing, like, the worst teams in America right now, so... So to your point, there's been some speculation. Nobody really knows. There was a situation, I believe, with Flau'jae's mom and...

Others' moms. And Angel's mom going at each other. Flau'jae's mom basically alluded to the fact that it was gray related And that the mom had grammar issues Yeah, mom like this is because of the moms like the moms brought it to the forefront You know, it's like it can't be speculation anymore though Cuz the cats out the bag now not really like we okay

We know what's going on, but we're not going to say because that's not how we are. We don't do that. We don't do that. We are black media. You know, and these black people. But if we were black media, we would have bench spilled this shit. If we was like real black media, yeah, yeah, we want our clicks and views. We heard.

We heard. We know what's going on. We heard. We heard. We know what's going on. We know. Nah, nah. But Angel actually posted a tweet recently addressing the situation. She said, please don't believe everything you read. And the quote tweets were insane. Yeah.

You got other players quoting and, did you see that? Yeah, like former players. Yeah, they need to. Y'all are not there no more. Let it go. This ain't your fight no more, babes. Some beef lingers. I don't know.

But again, I'm like, it was the beef with them or it was the beef with the coach. It just added more confusion. And again, I can't reiterate this enough. These are kids. Yes, they're making money. Yes, they're in commercials, but they're still kids. I mean, do you think any of the issues stem from, I mean, we've seen Angel all over everywhere. She got the Reebok deal. She's getting a big bag, probably close to what Kim Mulkey's making.

So, you can call your coach a broke girl. Like, I'm just saying, it messes up the dynamic a little bit. Oh, no, for sure. And that's something that, like, I knew was about to happen. But, again, Angel's situation is very unique. There's not very many women's basketball players making that type of money. So I don't think it's going to become a huge issue. It could if they don't get it under control.

Let's imagine this. Shador Sanders playing for another coach. How would that play out? Knowing that he's flamboyant with his, you know, celebrations and all that. You losing and you just shining. Like, I think the Angel Reese situation is similar. You know, if she had her dad or her mom coaching,

it wouldn't be a big deal. But the fact that she's able to floss the NIL bag to everybody, and then it becomes some kind of jealous thing. So we don't know what's really happening, but we know things that can be used to distract us from the real shit. And that's the grades. The thing about NIL is like,

the most talented and good players are not necessarily making the most money. So you put them out on their field, on the court, and you have someone who probably is a little bit better than them. Now they're extra coming at you because you are making all this money. Yep. And that's happened with Shador.

It's happened with Kayla Williams. And then it happened with her in their first game in Colorado. So, you know, there's got to be a balance. And we talk about the grades, but it's Thanksgiving. I don't think report cards will come out, and I don't look at LSU as this rigorous academic place. And it's a new day. You got NIL bag. People take those classes for me. If the goal of school is to learn how to make money, I think Andrew Reese has already got straight A's in that. Yeah. I just don't like how people are acting like it's impossible to remain in good academic standing. That was a dialogue I didn't like. I had straight A's all through college

and was the best player. Nerd. At Duke? That's fine, I'll be a nerd. It's possible. It just takes time planning and you have to reorganize some of your social stuff. But I wasn't necessarily throwing a shot at that situation

because I knew it wasn't her grades. But people talking about female athletes and black athletes not being able to do school and play was, like, kind of annoying me. And it's usually people who didn't have no sports. Right. So they get to sit. And y'all barely was getting through school. Yeah, y'all don't have 4.0s and y'all don't have nothing distracting you. No sports, right? So they get there they get this barely was getting through Point O's and y'all don't have nothing distracting you you just do your work go home, right? You're out of school like the athlete has to train

You know the practice team practice the train by himself. So most time most athletes get home at 9 9 30, right? So during finals the athlete is the most stressed. 100%. Missing class. Traveling. Yeah, traveling, missing, and still got to get the same grades you get.

While you're sitting at home taking, what, Adderall. Yeah. We can't take Adderall because we got drug testing. So, you get to take Adderall and cram all night. It gets out the system quick,

I'll just say that. You just got to know how to maneuver a shake. You got to know how to drink vinegar water. Cranberry juice, nice, and there's things you can do. Not saying I did them. Hey, UCLA, so you know they know for all of that stuff. We had the shake, too. I knew about that back in the early 2000s. The one thing as hoopers, we always tried to balance that workout, practice, and then study hall.

That's the difference. It's like we're sleepy as fuck. All day. After fucking. All day long. Like, we get up for that early morning class, and we try to hit that lunch class, and then we got practice, and we got weights. Then we got study hall. Like, my study hall, we're like, man, if you don't get this work away from me

and leave me alone so I can go to sleep. So I understand, like, that side of it for the athlete that they're trying to figure it out. But I think for LSU and Angel, it's the parenting side of who's getting more money. What's her name? Floge. Floge. Floge. If she's not getting the money now, like Angel's getting.

But she shouldn't. Exactly. But she's second. But think about it. If they're sharing information about what's going on with the team and who might not be qualified to play because then it gets out in the public that you got a 2.0. It's just real messy.

It's real messy. I don't like that for us. Yeah, it's bad. It's just messy, and Kim is not making it any better. Y'all did study hall too? Y'all didn't do study hall? You could have,

if your grades were high enough, you didn't have to go. What you mean? Grades are high enough, you didn't have to go? What am I going to stay hall for? I don't need it. This shit was mandatory from... It was mandatory your freshman year. Your freshman year was mandatory and then if you got good enough

grades then you didn't. It wasn't mandatory anymore. I studied sports. Six to eight. I studied sports and then if school was left over then I'll go to that. But usually it was never that. I had to log in so I'd like go upstairs log in And go downstairs to the locker room. I would do my work downstairs or take a nap We had an academic center We just had to log in and I had the basketball center. Yeah, we had that too. I had 21 credits of basketball. Hmm We did too. We just had to go to class too. I'm glad your life worked out the way it did. 0.3 and 0.4.

I said 0.3 and then 0.2. Damn, you actually. I used a free scholarship to improve my skill work. No, we all did. It worked out. I'm sorry. I was not there for the educational purposes. Oh, look.

A lot of us were there for what you were there for, but we were just put in different programs where we had to follow the steps, the protocol. I liked school. Me too. But I realized, like, okay, a doctor makes this, and then the MBA makes this.

Yeah. I mean, I just like to learn. So, like, when you're able to pick your classes, I like, after your freshman year, when you, like, have to take science, whatever, like, I hated those classes. But once you started getting into your major, like, that's when I kind of enjoyed school a little bit more.

But you were gone by then. Yeah, I was out of there. Listen, school is not for fools. Go to class. Don't do what I did. Yeah, stop it. Go to class. Don't do what we did, goddamn. Go to class. Don't do what I did. You know, stop it. Go to class. Go to class.

Don't do what we did, Goddamn. Go to class. Go to class. Don't get into the draft early and get millions and then, you know. Do your homework. All your classes are online now anyway. They rigged the whole shit for us. There will be no excuse at this point.

Everything's online. That's why I didn't understand. I was one against college players getting paid. Like, I wasn't for it because of this. Your scholarship is free, right? Your scholarship is free with a handicap onto your grades, right? So you don't need the same grades as everyone else. So you're getting a discounted rate on grades, plus you're getting free education,

plus when you're done, for the person who got a degree, I still have an advantage over this person because I'm famous, right? So if you went to school and you became a doctor or whatever, and you opened up some, I'm the first person you're going to go to because for four years you cheered me on so I'm gonna get the job way before You right now. I'm the celebrity of the school. I'm a celebrity of the city. So I have an advantage anyway without Without the education so like if I go back to Arizona say I'm looking to do this everyone low give me this They don't care about Your credentials your credentials. My name was my credential. So it's like the athlete has a bigger advantage Anyway, so paying them and the guys you're trying to pay

They're not even in the NBA I mean, they're not even in college anymore, right? Like so you they make the argument for like Kevin Durant's and this and this and this one You know Zion he was rented. For the six months, it's like, hey, you want to come here? This is what we're going to give you to come here. You come here, six months, you're gone. So he needs to get paid off his name.

Well, he technically did. He did. He did. His mom got, you know. It wasn't legal or allowed. Yeah, it wasn't allowed. But you got it good good and then you bounce the NIL is more for players who are gonna be there three four four years

So when you said that you So it's beneficial for women. Yeah, like when you say you're pissed about the scenario, right? That's the same scenario I fought for when it came down to when you're going to pay these kids, right? And you're going to do it through name, image, and likeness. Don't pay them direct one. You make it a sports and performance-based incentive for where now they have to perform on the court for the coach. The coach then becomes a teacher, which he's not. He's a coach. He's not on salary for teaching, right? So you force the coach then becomes a teacher, which he's not. He's a coach. He's not on salary

for teaching, right? So you force the coach to become a teacher that now every midterm, the athletes have to come to the semester and they have to accomplish or surpass results given. Like your pre-test. Yes, you your on court. Like if this is our class, like you said, you got 21 credits, right? So you got 21 credits as an athlete to come to this university. So when you start, we take all

of your credentials. So your vertical leap, how much you bench, speed, all of those things, right? So now midterm comes. If you haven't gotten better, you don't get paid that NIL. So now based on everybody who submitted for the NIL, name, image, likeness, is going to be now based on your performance.

But then that goes against name, image, likeness. No, no, no, because it's pumped into the actual academic, I mean the athletic department. But this is outside of the school. You're making it part of the school. No, that's what I'm saying. So it's making the actual coach accountable for the player's performance and the production and the development.

Right? So the NIL coming in and you're going to give guys money for their name, image, likeness. They're only going to get that by playing in the game. They're going to get visibility and exposure. The players. But what I'm saying is you're going to give guys money for their name, image, likeness. They're only going to get that by playing in the game. They're going to get visibility and exposure. They're players. But what I'm saying is you're making it about the school. The name and image is outside of the school.

I know, but they're only going to show their development as products to push to the advertisers, push their name in his image and likeness value up is gonna be done within this within the team you're not gonna get anything outside of that so if we perform but no that's what the NIL is outside of the team so I don't need I don't need you as the coach to do anything I can go sell myself but you need to play I don't need to you do I don't need to you have to that's don't need to. You have to. I know. That's what you will hope. It's too late for that now.

No, that's what I'm saying. You will hope. So, like, I don't have to worry about the coach saying, all right, I don't like your attitude. I'm going to bench you. I'm going to bench you. Because it wouldn't be based on that. It would be based on performance. What performance if I'm not playing?

So, you're purposely fucking my bag up when I can just go to this guy and say, hey, I play for this team. I have this following. This is my personality. Boom, boom, boom. I have this following. Boom, boom, boom boom boom now I can get this bag just because but what are you? here for To play yes That's the issue with NIL though, but it's old like we're past that now like I so now We are now only performance based like the pros, but they're not pros. They're amateurs

So you start doing a performance base. Now coaches can bench you. Based on your performance. I can bench you just because I don't like you. No, not that. It can't be that anymore. That was the old model. The old model is I don't have to have a reason not to play you. Now, sports performance wise,

if I'm playing well, you have to play me. Why? Because I'm playing well. What does that mean? You're playing well outside of our system? Our production is up. No, it makes everybody so selfish. If I'm getting, it becomes the NBA. If I know I'm getting a bigger bag than you

because I score more, when we're on the fast break, I'm not passing you the ball. The production that I'm talking about is not necessarily individualized more than it is around the team concept of developing the players. So, like I said, benching. If you come in and you're running faster, jumping higher, and you're stronger,

then this is production of development that you now get credit for. What does that got to do with, like, if I'm 7'11"? Some of the best athletes are not very skilled or good. Yeah, if I'm 70 11 Why do I give a fuck about how much you can bench if you're what 711 and you're trying to get a scholarship What you mean? I mean, uh 711 hi in and out all these these guys that's trying to push the product Why do I care about what you can do? You meant like you're tall I thought you meant if I'm 70 tall why do I care about benches? I'm talking about people who are giving out like Adidas.

Why do I care about if you can run faster? If you don't sell my product. I need you to sell my product. Personality sell products. What I'm saying is the payment from the NIL, that the problem is every college is having is payouts. The system of the payouts and why we're paying these kids all this money. If you're going to pay them in increments in a way where they can get incentivized for

receiving the bread, it will be different than just- You want the brands to go directly to the school instead of to the players individually. It creates an incentive for performance. Every state is different though because the USC athletic director said that they can't really get involved in brand deals in California, but I think they said maybe like Utah or something. They can. So, I'm sure that's come up, but every state- So, there's two things that's going on.

You have the school. So, what the school is doing- They're collectives. They're collecting NILs for the team. So what they do is they're like, oh, they're going to go to this mom and pops, okay, let's say Lexus. Right, Lexus, give us 300,000, right, and we'll have our whole team come here and then do this Lexus branding and then we're going to divide it equally between the team.

Because 14, 13, 12, 10, all those girls, they're not going to get NIL deals. Who's paying them? So what ends up happening is the star player, the star player doesn't need Lexus anymore. Right?

I don't need Lexus. I can go get my own deal from my own name and my own likeness. So the star player has their own NIL. The school themselves do NIL for the rest of the players so they can feel important. That's why I was explaining that side of it.

Oh, that side of it. That's the side I'm talking about. Only the big schools. Only the big schools. Yeah. My sister's at William & Mary right now. None of them are making NIL. Of course. But she can't do anything. She can't go internship. She can't

go work here. She can't do anything. She's a prisoner at the university because the coaches want her on campus the whole entire year, damn near. So it's players like that that I'm sad for, and I'm watching it happen in my system right now. She is getting no benefit from NIL, working 24-7, 365 at the university. She's going to leave school with no money, with an amazing degree, but no work experience, no internships, no nothing, because they're only catering to the NIL kids.

But that's the model. They can do whatever they want. That's been our model. That's been our model. The game is the game. But let's get this. But like Angel Reese don't have nothing from the school. She don't have no NILs from LSU themselves.

No. She don't need LSU. The thing is her, yeah. But that was what I was saying as far as that structure for the team bringing all the deals for the team. And in order to disperse that money. But they're dividing performance based. Right, performance. But they do that anyway.

But those are like two, three thousand. I mean, it is something, right? You know what I mean? It's something. Why is the Wild Wild West? Let's keep this thing moving. Talk about NBA action. End season tournament is back tonight.

We mean teams will be playing on those colorful ass courts that we've seen all over the league. But several players have complained that some of them courts are janky and slippery, including Luka Doncic, Tyrese Halliburton, and Celtics star Jalen Brown. That was a slip. I think I might have strained my groin a little bit. We'll see how it feels.

But the court was just slippery, you know, all game. And, you know, I think we all, as players, we're all here for the in-season tournament because, you know, it's going to generate, going to generate revenue, excitement, competition, et cetera. But we got to make sure the floor is safe to play on. We can't put our players out there and risk their health. So tonight, I thought the floor was kind of unacceptable. I think guys were just slipping all over the place, not just me. The one we played in Boston was fine. I thought it was good. I think tonight it just slipping all over the place, not just me. The one we played in Boston was fine.

I thought it was good. I think tonight it was just slippery. We've only played on two. I don't know. I've heard some of the other guys mention that they were slipping around on other teams in different places in the league, so I think they need to make sure that that's an emphasis before somebody gets seriously hurt.

So is the league valuing viewership over player safety with these flashy-ass in-season tournament courts? I mean, what's wrong with the court? Like, what part of it is slippery? The lane. Huh? The color part. Okay, so. I mean, so you've got these whole colorful-ass courts.

Lucas said there was a bunch of dead spots on courts that he's played on. Several guys complained about but I mean Is that a normal situation you deal with on regular court? Okay, so, okay. Is it is it the same court? Is it just what's the difference between the courts? Paint on it, but I'm saying it has to like a paint that's usually just in the lane is on the whole court, right? That makes it something is like like is it the paint that slippery usually just in the lane is on the whole court, right? That makes it colorful? That's what I'm saying. It's like, is it the paint that's slippery? Is it your shoes slippery versus the... Or did they not clean it well?

Is it dusty? Is the ice under there making it wet? People don't realize that, too. When NBA courts are slippery, it's because of this. You got the hockey arenas in there, right? And then you have, let's say there's a hockey game tomorrow. That ice is going to be under there. Now, what happens when you have

the ice under and the heat on? It starts melting. Right? So it kind of gets moisty on the wood, so you slip from that. Right? So there's a lot of factors in. That's why I said like, where did you slip so you can alright, it's this part.

Like, if your shoes, your shoes, like, if you have plastic on your shoes, the plastic part that goes with the line, you'll slip on that. But there's just, there's a lot of factors. There's dead floors. Like, if you've seen LeBron, right, on the regular floor, he's checking the dead spots. But there was a video of him before Lakers' in-season tournament game checking every spot on the court, on the regular floor, he's checking the dead spots. But there was a video of him before Lakers' in-season tournament game checking every spot on the court, checking the squeaks.

That's what the fucking professionals do. Is that what you used to do before? Yes. You go and you check. You go there and you sit there and do this all the way. Everywhere you're going, dribble the ball. Yeah, everywhere you're going, dribble the ball. In the lane so you can understand the floor.

That's what makes the greats greats versus everybody else. You're trying to figure out what is what. Because it's wood. It's being placed together. So obviously it's not going to be as solid as you would hope. These floors get lifted off, put back on. Right? So you got to think that a dead floor right here today might be somewhere else next game.

Somewhere else the following game because it's being wood. You think about all of the different courts, though? somewhere else next game somewhere else the following game because it's being wooded and How you think about all of the different courts though? If this is a new new court that ain't been broken yet and they trying to break in this court It's gonna be slippery. It's like new shoes. You got new shoes. You try to get on that new court It's either gonna stick stick you like damn you stick so good You can feel this is sticking on from the bottom of your foot. Or it's going to be super slippery. I think that they're just trying to break in these new courts.

And they got that new paint, like she said. They got the new paint on there. And once it gets wet, I think that's what it is. Wet too? A new court that gets wet? Oh, that's motherfucking. You're not low in the place. But that's what I'm saying.

It's like, with NBA, man. We're so privileged and Right. We're so we're so picky about we we were so picky about the littlest things. That's different like My back when he bring the ball, right? The reason no one liked the ball wasn't because the ball cut my hands and all that silly shit. It was because the people who had the records in the NBA did not have this advantage. So the Kobe's and the Steve

Nash, they're like, we don't want an advantage. You're giving us an advantage that the other players who set these records didn't have and now we're going to have these question marks around our legacy because of the new ball. So it was like, fuck that.

Oh, it's cutting my hands, it's this and that. You just made up excuses to get rid of it. Yeah. But a bunch of, what was going to happen is a bunch of players are going to complain. Oh yeah. And they're going to be like, all right, just have your end season tournament on your own court. Or just put the little trophy decals.

Or just don't have the whole court covered in paint. Right. Just do the half court. Just do the in-season stuff. So, speaking of courts, Gil, what's the worst court that you played on when you were in the league or in college? The worst court? Mm-hmm. Back in the day.

Like, is there one with the ice underneath them? Are those different than playing? I mean, the ones with ice are the worst courts. The ones that have the hockey arenas under. Yeah. Yes. Because it's colder. So somebody like Phoenix Suns, it's Phoenix, but it's the coldest arena.

Yeah. Because think about it. It's ice under there So what happens is it's so hot outside and they keep the air-conditioned on so the arena itself is fucking cold, right? So, you know, that's one arena. That's just it's just a cold arena itself, but for floors All pretty consistent all computer. Yeah, you know Orlando probably was mine Orlando magic and way Orlando magic amway. It's just old. The court is old? Yeah, even the Celtics court is kind of that part.

What did you call it? The parquet? Parquet, yeah. Parquet floor. That shit just feels old. There's only two gyms. It was just like when you walk in, you can hear the wood. When you bounce, I'm doing my boom.

Yeah, when I played at NC State in college before they redid their arena. Yeah, NC State. Very old. Very old. Very, very old. Yeah, gross. I'll say which had the best Stanford back in the day when they had the springs. Hey, I was bouncing.

Hey, but if you caught that bounce on the raw. Dead spot? No, because it had like this, it's like that rubberish, it had like a rubberish spring to it. So if you jumped, you jumped. But imagine like you running down and then you catch the you can we never call Stanford at Stanford but I heard the news never that Stanford the USC court like it was good it just we had a lot of space bro and it was real clean the court was always clean. So we always had that I saw you heard.

Oh, good speaking. And the popcorn. What you hear? Popcorn popping? As I said, it's shoes, everything. Because like, we had the sticky mats

for a reason. Yep. Right? You had the, hey, Steve Nash always licked it for a reason. There's a reason. You know,

that's so nasty. That's so nasty. That's so nasty. So gross. It's nasty. What's so funny is Steve, don't shake my hand after you lick your fucking finger. It's just a habit that he never, he is a habit. What does that do? Who knows?

Signifies his friendships with people. God. No, it just. Every time I see someone put their hands in their mouth in the middle of a game. Because you're not. Even with the mouth guard. I use my sweat. I'm like, yeah. I never did that.. I use my sweat. I never did that.

I always use my sweat. You're not thinking about the, you're never thinking about the germs or nothing. You're just out there hooping. Cold sore. It's just, yeah, it's just Steve Nash, cold sore. That's why you had them cold sores. It's just behavior. Every time I see Steph take his little thing out

and I'm like, ugh. That's what it's saying. It's like, it's just behavior. You're playing bouncing, shaking hands, snot, dirt, take your little thing out, and I'm like, ugh. That's what it's saying. It's like it's just behavior playing, bouncing, shaking hands, snot, dirt, taking mouthpiece out, cussing at the ref with all of the fibers. All your spit all over. All of the spit bouncing back in. And then wipe your shoes right after that. You don't even think about none of it. You're just out there hooping, yo. That's so nasty.

That is so nasty. And then we sit here with COVID. Put the mask on. Get away from me. Put the mask on on the bench. All right. Let's not.. And then we sit here with COVID. Put the mask on. Get away from me. But put the mask on on the bench. All right. That's nice. We're going to talk about it.

Put a hand sanitizer on. This is the nastiest people on earth. Man, bro. But put your mask on on the bench. Put your mask on on the bench. I can't breathe. We're going to talk about something else nasty in the league right now, the officiating. Man.

What a transition. Segway J. Segway Joe. Segway Joe. Refs haveoke! Segway Joke! Refs have been particularly emotional and sensitive this season. The latest example came Monday night when this happened to two-time MVP Nikola Jokic. I like the way Bagley and earlier Jake Ivey going at Jokic. Going at him, challenging him. No, it's okay.

I'm not begging for it, man. He's a... He's begging for it. He's hot. He's hot. He's gotta be careful. Oh boy. This... Oh...

And bye-bye. This is a foul. I don't think it's a tech or is it a tech? I hate it when they're out there. And bye-bye. This is a foul. I don't think it's a check or is it a check? It's a second time to go. That's a check. He's a check. He put the mouthpiece right back in. In the words of Luther Vandross, it's over now.

Let me tell you this. These fans did not come here to see Curtis Blair, Trey Maddox, or or Andy Nagy whoever they are So Joker's ejection came shortly after Nuggets head coach Mike Malone was also ejected earlier in the game But the come on second quarter fixes in yeah, it's less thoughts on on Yoko's getting ejected in the first half of the Nuggets Pistons game good Did he deserve it? No. No. What does he deserve?

To get kicked out? What is, like, the ways to get ejected, or is it just completely at the ref's discretion? It's like, that's why I call them police. Like, there should be, like, a list of things that call for ejection. You get your feelings be, like, a list of things that... Guarantee ejection.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get your feelings hurt, you can't eject these guys. Yeah, and that's what it is. Because I'm hurting your feelings, you're... And I know it sounds bad, but they remind me of cops. You have the power. You have the... You're supposed to have the discipline, right? You're supposed to have all the training that you go through and the responsibility is on us to

behave in a manner, right? So, and this, someone should ask Adam Silver this If I'm a player I'm playing a game that's emotional I'm acting in real time realty human emotions and when I don't control my emotions a Ref can give me a technical which means Whatever I said to him irritated him so bad that he didn't control his emotions and he gave me a tech. So my emotions

led to him being emotional but he gets to give me a tech for it and that's fine. How? Not fine. It's not fine. He's supposed to be the most cool and collective motherfucker on here

because there's no nothing for him. He doesn't leave here with a win or a loss. Whatever he does, 6,000, 3,000, whatever he makes, he gets it no matter fucking what. No one's judging. How many? What's the ref's record? What's Billy's record? What is it? Zero and fucking zero. His whole career. Zero and zero. No one's just, how many, what's the ref's record? What's Billy's record?

What is, zero and fucking zero, his whole career. Zero and zero, there's no win or loss. You just look at the game, doo, fuck you ref. Fuck you ref. That's why you missed the shot. That's why you missed the shot. Uh-huh, that's why you got subbed out.

But what is the emotion? Why? What do you? What do you gain from throwing these people out? Tech. Yeah. You call me what? Tech.

Like, this is the most fucking emotional dudes in the game. Think about it. What'd you say, though? Emotion. Remember when Violet came in to the league? Mm-hmm. Everyone seemed to try to change the way we talked to refs because they implemented her.

I don't know if you know about Violet. Violet was a female referee in the NBA and she had a lot of respect because she was really good. She had respect for the players, but it was certain things we had to watch how we said and what we said, not to to her just in the vicinity yeah right and she could emotionally react if she wanted to if she wanted if she if she wanted to then there was billy you remember billy the ref light skin i think he is still with the mustache i think he came out we know billy i think he came out of the closet i'm not sure yeah and before that before that we didn't know

nothing we didn't know nothing about billy and all the shit he was doing but we knew that he had a sassy ass way of reference Right. It was really like emotional and he wouldn't talk to you after attack and he he would Then we came out was like oh he went ham on a bunch of motherfuckers after he came out and did what he did with 21 he was being real emotional about get back I'm gonna get you back and that's the thing like so like let's say somebody like Violet right

Violet the reason she was respected by the athletes as a whole right is because she understood human behavior. She understood men basketball. She knew which words are going to be said to her, around her. Like, she knows, like, these players are going to talk to each other how they're going to talk to each other. I can't be offended how they talk to each other. I can't be offended what they say to me

Yeah, because I I know if they're gonna say it to him the same words Obviously you're gonna say to me, right? I already know that I'm not gonna be offended by it to sit there and give these dudes that if I'm gonna give them text for Them saying the B word. There's no game. Come on How many objections have there there been this season? How many ejections have there been this season? I don't have the full number, but the thing is... It should be very hard to get ejected. It happens too often now, I think.

Because that's what I'm saying. I'm reacting to something. I think I got filed. I think I got this. I'm going to react naturally. Yes. What is your problem for me reacting? I'm mad at you because I feel like you're not doing your job right.

I'm getting yelled at at my coach by my coach if I'm not doing my job right. So you're the only one that doesn't get yelled at? The refs are the only ones that has no pressure in this game. Your pressure comes from what exactly? Do they get punished? Checks in the mail. They get punished, but the problem is no one sees it. Right?

Which makes it more of a problem because we don't see... You see us getting fined in tech, but we don't see nothing that happens to you. Yeah, you probably won't be on these games and stuff like that. But it should be public, which if it's public it gives the players more Relief. Yes, because because what happens is if I know you gave me six technicals, right? I Know you penalize me. I'm less likely gonna talk to you Yeah, or bitch at you because I know what you're gonna you to do. Same thing if you're getting fined all the time.

If a ref is getting penalized, like, yeah, motherfucker. Mm-hmm. You're a badass dog. Yeah. So, like, the ref knows, like, all right, this motherfucker's trying to,

you know, bait me. Yep. Mm-hmm. Like, there's no check and balances, and that's the only problem I hate about it. Like, you need to get refs, like, get refs in that are ill-mannered Yes

They're real ass. Oh, yeah, they are the assholes like they're real like you can't even say don't talk to me Yeah, you could work for yeah, you come to work for pisses me Shit today I'm like, all right. And I'm not even one of those there. The one where they're just not looking or listening to you at all. Oh, and you can see them. They're just like.

They're like, oh, man. And you try. We're trying to have a civilized conversation. At first. At first. We're trying to literally like, hey, talk to me. Talk to me. What did I do wrong?

Woo, woo, woo. Yeah. And they just, oh, that's what kind of night we having? Yep oh that's what kind of night we have in here that's what kind of night we have in today okay okay like bro you already know I'm on one I got three Red Bulls in me I got all your line I got the baby mama man coach subbing me out he's fouling me and now you don't even want to have a civil conference you give me the tech give me the extra $500. That's usually what happens.

We have these whole hell of a mission. You just come in here. Do your little whistle. Whatever you got on the game. We don't care at this point. Just do your game. Get the fuck on. We're not even talking about the shit they go through at home. Shit they bring to the arena. What, the refs?

Yes. The refs? Yes. Oh, yeah. The refs bring real bullshit. You can tell when sometimes you just got to look at a ref and you're like, oh, they're going to be on some bullshit. They're going to be on some bullshit. They're going to be on some bullshit. But that's the, like, here's my thing. Refs, like, you have to ask yourself, what are you, when you're going into the game reffing

it, what do you think you're doing by giving technicals? What are you doing? Like, if me and you are going at it, talking shit, when you decide to put your nose in our business, don't fuck with H.

You know what I mean? All right, this motherfucker been talking shit all week. You step in once the Draymond shit happens. Yeah. Before that, this is none of your business. Chill. Right, when you seen Clay Thomas, Clay, that was no lead up.

No. Right, I think that's what the Nittian doing. Like, we're going to stop it before it gets... Shut up, y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what they're doing. That's exactly what they're doing. That's two minutes of the game. How long do you think these motherfuckers been arguing?

Nada. Nothing. Like a player will warn you. A player will warn you first. Hey, ref, check them before I check them. Exactly. That part. We'll definitely do that. Hey, ref, he keeps doing a little dirty shit and y'all ain't calling it. I'm going to pop him one.

Come on now. The player gives you what's going on. Just call it and that's it. Just call a regular foul. I dunk on you and y'all. What? It's your fucking problem. Let me yell at him. He shouldn't have jumped. And most players, we really get pissed off when we feel like we're being cheated. Don't cheat me. Don't cheat me. You got to beat me. Beat me.

Don't cheat me. Don't fucking cheat me. I got dunked on him. I dunked on him because he wanted to be a shot blocker. I boom! Dunked on him. Two points. Get up.

And then you give me a tick. Now he gets one point. For getting dunked on. He got a point for getting fucking dunked on him. Two points. Get up. And then you give me a tick. Now he gets one point. For getting dunked on. He got a point for getting fucking dunked on, bro. Stop! Let him work it his own way. Let's talk about that a little bit. And Lexi, to your question earlier, there have been 11 ejections so far this season.

As you can guess, Draymond Green is tied for first. Tied for first with Draymond Green from last year. With Jalen Duren. Like that right there. Yeah, crazy. So we saw Giannis teed up for staring down Beef Stew

after dunk. Look at him. Who is he? Who is 52? For the fun. And I'm like, why are you talking to Giannis that way?

We also saw Ant Edwards get tagged, teed up for doing this. He got teed up for that? What? So here's my question. Man, listen, let me tell you something.

That was incredible. So my question for you guys, should players be allowed a five to ten second grace period to taunt celebrate after a big play ten Seconds is a little long seven point. Okay First of all ten the reason ten seconds is too long is because ten seconds the fucking shit already down in the court Yeah, like somebody like this You can celebrate a tone while you're running down the court. Well Okay, but they get scored on there. I'd say five seconds

What was me there shouldn't be no time limit, right? Just like if you sit near sit here running down and I go score Your coaches take him out take him out You're doing this little this and little that and shooting arrows up against me and just kicking out the score. You look dumb anyway. But what if you can multitask? We saw LeBron hit Dylan Brooks with the two small

as he was getting back on defense. Yeah, that's okay. That's what makes it okay to do. It's because you can get back on D while doing your animation. Let's say I dunked in one. It's the yelling. Can I get five seconds just to yell? Three seconds.

You can do whatever. If you want to yell for five seconds. What I'm saying is if you want to yell for five seconds, that's you. Then fuck the ref got to do with the yelling for the five seconds. Because I'm a five-second yeller. I'm going to yell all five. And after five, tone it down, Arenas. It's five.

But the thing about it is, we're yelling because we did something unexpectedly. Yes. Yeah. Right? I drove down a lane and came and dunked. Oh, he jumped. Boom. Boom.

Woo. Yes. Yes. And I want everybody to know. I want everybody to know. Yes. If I go, you sit there and dunk just. And when they tee them up, they like, that's the energy. Look, think about it. I just got dunked on. I want everybody to know yes

I'm just sitting like Yeah, he checked you Don't stop me ducking on you dummy And that's they that's their get back at least you got things you got Technical you See your point you make a nice play. You get the two points. Now that other team gets rewarded with a point for their fuck up.

But that's what I'm saying. It's like refs should not be a lot like those like taunting. There's no such thing. It's part of it. It's part of taunting. It's the culture. I dunk on you. I score on you.

I shake you up. Woo! We celebrate. All this is part of taunting. Raise the roof, sitting here doing this. When there's a timeout, when there's a timeout, and you've got players doing this, raising the crowd. Like, yo, this is part of the game. This is sportsmanship. This is why

people come and pay seats. They're not coming here for the referees. Right? If I'm a Wolves fan and you just dunked on a dude and you sitting there yelling, what is fans doing? Yelling at him. Yee-haw! You give the check, you done

gave the whole fucking arena. The whole arena's like, oh. You got kids in there like, oh, this mother. Who is he? Who's number 42? Boo. Right, it's worse for the refs. Definitely.

The NBA do something like the NFL does. Say you dunk somebody, get an and one. When the defense gets an interception, they can all run to the camera and do their shit for a good five days that's a part of our sneeze though look michael jordan when he dunked on pat when he dunked on matumbo when he dunked on lonzo he used to dunk on all these motherfuckers right what is this that's no no no no that's sean kemp hey sean kemp sean kemp was the time. Kim used to dump You you know you cold when you dunk on a motherfucker and they that you have to death you up So what are you getting doesn't said you're getting technical for natural? reaction celebration

Like it's just something excessive. You're not hurting anybody like most of these texts. What is it? You're yelling in their face Then tell them hurry or take the fucking ball out. Take it out. It don't matter. I'm still yelling, though. I'm backpedaling. What I'm saying is, okay, you dunked on me, right, and then you're yelling in my face, and then they call a tech. It don't change how I feel that I just

dunked on you. Right, right, right. It's actually worse, because now they replay the dunk over and over. Not like your technicals stop me from wanting to punch him in the face. Straight up. It doesn't stop that. So, like, what it do stop is the get back, right? You dunked on me.

You yell, ah! And I want to hurry up and go and try to silence you. It stops that now. Technical. Now, obviously, we know the TV, they're going to replay. So, this is what happened. Like, how many times did this dunk is shown on SportsCenter, the technical itself? So they're going to show the dunk over and over and over and over, all because the ref wanted to.

And should those, as long as there's no slurs involved or whatever it may be, should those type of technicals not count towards an ejection if we are gonna keep them What is the slur got to do? Slur is a part of it. Fuck nigga. Yeah, I don't count niggas a slur. I'm just saying What I'm saying is, what is the purpose of it? If you ask the question- They say unsportsmanlike conduct. Who? To who?

The player who got dunked? I mean, the fans, let the fans vote on it. Since those are the people who you're paying attention to and who you think you're saving the image for. Ask them if players should get technicals for celebrating on a dunk in front of somebody's face. I guarantee you it's not going to go the way you think it is. You said it's just similar to the NFL. It's going to be a 90-10. Similar to the NFL when you score a touchdown. You score a touchdown, get an interception.

It's just like a dunk. It's just like an M1. That's what we come to the game to see. We come to the game to see highlights. Which highlights is part of a reaction.

I do a windmill and then walk back down the court like this. Born. That ain't the hype part of the crowd when I dunk and I'm sitting there. Get like this. They're boring. The crowd ain't hyped. That ain't the hype part. The crowd will not dunk and I'm sitting there. Yeah. Get up. Oh, shit.

It's time to get up. It's the energy behind it. Right. You make somebody fall, you want the energy behind that fall. Shot. Yeah. Now I got a technical for this. Like, come on, man.

Yeah. They're being real aggy. We're here to see superstar players. one of those players being Kevin Durant. So let's show him some love. Yeah. With a little hibachi time. Yeah. It's Thanksgiving.

Hibachi time. That and was nasty. Yeah. So Suns Big Three has yet to play a game together, but Kevin Durant's been holding it down, like one would expect from a KD. After dropping 38 on the Jazz in a win Friday, KD followed that up with 39 points, eight rebounds, and 10 assists in a double OT win Sunday. Ooh.

Yes. Look at that man. Since dropping 18 in the season opener, KD has scored over 25 points or more in 12 straight games, which is a franchise record, including six 30-point games, one 40-point game. D-Book is back in the lineup but has only played five games this season. Bradley Beal is out for at least the next few weeks with his backiotomy. He's only played three games but the 35-year-old Durant has played in all 13 games this season. The Suns are 76. Yeah.

Gil, I'll start with you. What has KD shown you this season? He gets buckets like he's been getting. Right? He's a bucket getter. I think sometimes when players get hurt and, you know, they're in and out of lineups and they're not, you know, at their full capacity, we kind of like, we move on to the next player.

We move on to the next superstar. We call him Wash and we just keep moving on. He's showing you that at 35, this is what he does still. Get buckets. Get buckets. And the way he scores, it's so simple. And that's one of my favorite parts of his game. He don't do too much.

He gets to his spots. He knows his moves. He knows his strengths, and he's he's sharing the wealth, too He's distributing the ball great. He was he just got a little extra pep in his step this season So I mean, I think he's unstoppable for sure Lord knows I've been a Kevin Durant supporter for a while now and uh I've been a Kevin Durant supporter for a while now. And ever since he left Golden State, man, it's just given me the same feeling. I think it's given me the same feeling. You know, KD going to do KD. We all know what KD's capable of.

But it just gives me feels of Brooklyn all over again, where he always going to be one man down, which is right now Bradley Bill. We don't know what the team looked like with Brad. And I look at Booker as either a James Harden or a Kyrie on that Brooklyn team. And it just looked like KD has a lot of the load on his shoulders where he's going to have to mitigate trying to figure out how to get others involved when it's time or to keep his shit going the way it's going now, right? Because it looks like it's his team. It don't look like nothing else. You know what I'm saying?

It looks like, look, give me the ball, move out the way. You know, what did he say, 39-10-8? Yep. Come on, man. And KD ain't on his 21st year like LeBron, right? So we got a lot more of this to look forward to, but I just don't like the way that the Suns look. I don't think it has nothing to do with KD.

I think it's just the way the Suns look. I don't think it has nothing to do with KD. I think it's just the way that the Suns look more like Brooklyn than they do. I mean, because of the injury issue, do you think once they get that whole crew together, which we're still waiting for now... It'll be interesting because it's like the Clippers. Once you get them all on the floor and they all get the wheels turning at the same time, what is it going to look like? We're waiting to see that. We ain't really seen Brad on the floor maybe once, twice.

Preseason? Man, that's weird. He played three games. And then he got a back injury. He didn't really look great, did he? He looked solid, but, you know, he looked healthy to me. Do we know when he hurt it? So let me pull it up, but he's going to get re-evaluated in a couple weeks.

I think it's been kind of lingering by them because he played preseason, then sat out some games, tried to come back. You saw that video of him shooting? It was tweaking. Yeah, it just looked stiff and just not good. It's just when it comes out of the blue like this, that's what's weird to me. Like you play, and then all of a sudden, it's like, where Brad? It's like, oh, back. But, you know, when they put back on there, it's just like it could be anything. They just put something. like, where Brad? It's like, oh, back. But you know when they put back on there,

it's just like it could be anything. They just put something. No, back. You don't play with your back. No, yeah, back is a weird injury. I remember Bobby Shura. Bobby Shura hurt his back brushing his teeth. Damn.

What was he, what kind of brushing was he doing? Ah! It was one of those. Like when your back is going out, any little thing, bending over to tie your shoes, getting out, like you... Like I've seen some players with back injuries and you be like, damn. What the fuck's wrong with that?

Nah, I can't move, bruh. And you know what I mean? So, you really have to be careful with that that back So we got a I mean a ton of skilled players in the league But I'm ask you guys is Katie the most skilled player in the league right now When you say skill and we'll just talk on the offensive side offensively There's a lot of players, man.

I mean, Kyrie's always in the mix. It doesn't mean your handle. It doesn't mean how you create your shots. I'll say when it comes to overall scoring package, I will say yes. The ability to get buckets. I think all that other shit is great. The getting buckets, yes. At the end of the day, scoring buckets is the most important thing. I think I think sometimes I

Think sometimes when you are allowing Players who never played to put in what they think a skill is Right. Oh, he got all this skill and all but can he make the fucking bucket? Right. Can you can you get the bucket you points? Can he get you the bucket when you need it or we're celebrating the million dollar move with the 10 cent finish. Right, versus I would rather have the 10 cent move with the hundred dollar. And I think that's what we're watching KD and the Lucas and all them doing. The very efficient scorers, the guys who's always sitting here at the top, right?

The reason they're at the top is because they have the Tencent move with the $1 million finish versus I'm sitting here trying to ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. And then, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. And then you miss it and everybody's still celebrating because the move looked amazing. You know you still miss? You miss, bro. I don't give a fuck.

That's zero points for that. You miss. It's a different... But we do not get points for crossing somebody. It's a different generation now, though, because they'll show that highlight and they'll just cut out before it highlight and they'll just cut out.

And they'll just cut out. And that's why they get exposed. Like, you're so worried about the move versus the finish. And, you know, like, it's like Jordan Poole. Play like Kevin Durant. Pull up. Pull up. He backs up. Pull up. He backs up, pull up.

He pushes up, go pass. Right? So is that a you saying be more efficient or let the game come to you? Both? Be more efficient. It's more efficient. And I hate when somebody makes a move, they have the shot, and then they back it out. They do something else.

Yeah. Shoot the shot. You're open. That's what Jordan Poole does. Yeah, but like I said, me asking that question is like the inefficiency of that

is his inconsistency to go through with the move. If he goes through with the move and he can make that shot like consistently, it will become

more efficient. Right? So, Jordan Poole's style of play compared to what you're talking about is like, all right,

how can we get efficiency out of something that we can make consistent? I just don't think that style of play can ever be efficient. I mean, because when you're talking about Kevin Durant being efficient and being the guy that can deliver night in, night out, it's because he knows how to be consistent. He knows where to get his shot. And a lot of guys just don't got that. They don't got that efficiency mindset

where I'm going to go here, get here. They all about, like you said, highlights. If I make a highlight, it's better than even getting a bucket. But that's the good thing about a player like KD because even if he's having an off night, he's still getting to his spots. He's doing his moves. So when it does come to that crunch time

where we need a bucket or something, he's still taking those same shots. They just wasn't going in. So when it comes down to those high pressure moments, they're going to go in. Whereas you have someone who plays very erratic and random, you can't really depend on them in those moments. Like, here it is.

How many times have Kevin Dur rent been on SportsCenter? for a movie done No, it's always about like a few probably a few not a lot not a movie, but oh that was nice No, Jordan pool Right has six moves on SportsCenter averaging 15 points That's that's a you. You know what I mean? Like, oh, he did a spin and it came down.

Oh, spin cycle. You don't want to be that fucking player. You do not want to be that player that you are only famous for being on SportsCenter and you average 15 points. You're a highlight player, meaning you're only good to make that one move a day. You're spending the whole 38 minutes

trying to make one move on highlight. I'm going to be on highlight because I scored 60. I scored 55. I scored 40 and a game winner. I don't give a fuck about this one single move so when people look at my highlight, oh, he had eight points. All eight was SportsCenter style. and a game winner. I don't give a fuck about this one single move so when people look at my highlight, blah,

oh, he had eight points. All eight was SportsCenter style. I mean, I look at KD when you say, is he the most gifted scorer, capable scorer,

efficient scorer, all of those things. When you talk about who's left in the league, he's definitely right there. But then there are other, to me, prospects.

Ant-Man, Tatum, Shea, Alexander. Guys who are efficient, who got bags, who know how to get to their spots, who don't take really bad shots. And you look at their game and it's entertaining at the same time. They create like Shea put Steph on the map, almost touched earth. And it's like he got the highlight, he got the efficient bucket, and I think they won. I think they beat them. So it's like you've got a culmination of things

that happen and it creates efficiency for a player like Shia Alexander. And I look at the rest of the potential skill set players and I'm like, KD, if he's going to be the standard, you've got to look at all the other players that are similar but don't necessarily shoot like him. But I mean, obviously being 6'11", 7'0",

it's easy to get that shot of, but I think we've kind of just been so spoiled watching KD that we don't realize how ridiculous, and I think Wimby's kind of taking that to another level, just seeing these dudes who used to be jump back to the basket, get your ass in the posthmm don't even think about bringing the ball up the court So now they're like you saying this dude and get like you saying can score it all three levels If not more than five yeah, you know I'm saying I don't even know who made up three level score must miss some juco player

Wait, how do you wait? What do you mean? You don't believe in three level scoring? Is that not a thing? Yeah, three levels, like, you know, layup, midrange, three. Well what happens to the iso player and the post-up player? Those are levels of scoring. Right. Right? So it's five levels of scoring. Right?

You know, but if they never played basketball, they give you three. Triple threat is three. Yeah. Triple threat. Triple threat is your three level score That's not really I mean, it's a flex. I'm like they know you could pass dribble issue Don't say that no more nah, okay. Can you post up?

Okay, I mean I could. Can you ISO work? Sometimes. Can you shoot from Bangla Day? Okay. So we're at 13,000 people in the chat right now. We need to get to 15. We're trying to give some free shit away. We're trying to give some free shit away to y'all. Let's go. Aunties, uncles, the work, the former worker. Yes. The work almost ready to come. They are already. Yeah, it's almost lunchtime ten more minutes We give it away free shit, but we talked about Katie you're 17 35 years old We talked about a lot about LeBron and what he's doing, you know, almost 39 years old year 21

But does Katie deserve the same type of flowers that Bron is getting? Especially coming off the Achilles injury a few years ago To be able to be producing at this high of a level still, to the point, like I said, we're just spoiled by it. And to your point, Gil, we don't even really see it the way we should be seeing it. Yeah, I think, you know, when we talk about greatest and greatness, when we're watching it, we really don't understand it because it becomes so easy.

These guys are scoring so easy. When Russell Westbrook, think about it, when Russell Westbrook was averaging a triple-double, it was amazing for us the first year. Then it became so normal for him that we didn't like it anymore yeah right we tried to figure out how to like we were they just okay they made

something that he personally has in his motor. And when people think about, oh, what he did wasn't special. Why the fuck can nobody else do it? That's how special it is that your favorite player can't do it. It's not doing it. Because if everybody can average a triple-double, God damn it, trust me, they will. Right? Everybody wants to be that type of player. They're just not capable of. Right? Everybody can average a triple-double, goddammit, trust me, they will. Everybody wants to be that type of player.

They're just not capable of. So when you look at what Kevin Durant does, what LeBron does, what Curry is doing, they're doing it to the point where it becomes normal, right? Knowing that now when you get to 35, if you're not averaging 30 at 35, you're washed. Not knowing these guys are- There are different levels. There's levels. Have they fucked it up now for all eternity? Low key. Because 35 used to be like, get ready for the farewell tour, holler back. Now it's like, you ain't averaging 31, 77. But if you look at

the greatest, if you look at the greatest to ever do it, at 35 they were playing still great basketball. Well, here's the difference though. We don't look at KD like we look at LeBron because of the promotion. I think that the real hoopers know that Kevin Durant

is going to go down as a better, I think, better basketball player than LeBron at the end of the road, not right now. But promotion, if you look at Steph, LeBron, and KD, the promotion between Steph and LeBron is here. KD's here. I don't know if he's presentable or marketable, I don't know what it is, but they have more commercials. The dad thing, that they're parents, like they're fathers, it kind of also with the LeBron conversation, because he has a college-age son and older kids, and he's like 10 or 11

now, it makes him seem a little bit older than he actually is you look at kd and kd's not that young from them not but he's not being pushed right he's not being pushed over the limit and you would think because he's a nike guy he's a champion he came in with just as much hype as lebron you know tex Texas and DC assault, all that stuff. It's like, well, why is KD not being seen as top three all time? Because the media killed off the legacy when he left.

That's fucked up. That's fucked up. Golden State? Because he could have eclipsed LeBron maybe four years ago. But just like LeBron maybe four years ago. But just like LeBron got clipped when he went to Miami. When he went to Miami. Right?

Go back to Cleveland, win, and like revitalize. Revitalize. What happened is the NBA is holding, the media is holding a standard on three people. And it's not fair because the three people were in three, three main cities, right? You're in the, when the NBA, when the NBA is at, is thriving, when they're, when the NBA is making their money, they're, they are as big as possible is if when the three kings are when the three king cities are power housing boston chicago lakers when those three cities are they got good teams the nba is that's that's cash cow yep right you can't have all three of them down one has to be standing for the media to go. So think about every great player we done had. Where are their legacies? One of those, I mean, in a major city.

Chicago, Boston, LA. Los Angeles. Right? When you are, when you talk about Derrick Rose is when Chicago was pumping. Yeah. Right? You talk about the Boston. You're talking about L.A., Lakers. Right? You're talking about legacy. So Kobe.

Right? You're talking about magic. Right? You're talking about all Lakers who never went anywhere. You're talking about Chicago. Michael Jordan don't need to go anywhere. You're talking about Bird. He don't need to go anywhere.

Everyone wants to come to them. Right? So you're talking about, oh, they never left. Why do they need to go anywhere. Everyone wants to come to them, right? So you're talking about, oh, they never left. Why do they need to leave? Where are they going to go? Oh, the talent wants to come there, right? Everyone talks about Jordan didn't leave. No, Jordan didn't have to leave because everyone was coming there. Ron Harper averaged 20. I want to go win a championship. He comes there. Dennis Rodman, I want to come win a championship. He's coming there. So the talent is coming there. LA, the talent is coming to Kobe. They're willing to, he can call you on the phone. Hey, come here. Matt Barnes, come here. Ron Artest,

come here. And Paul, you want to come here. Like he, those players want to come there. Right. So it's easier for them to recruit because you're sitting in a big city. Yep. Right, so anybody who decides to leave because their city and their owner is not saying, I don't have, I'm not trying to spend, I can't compete with the Lakers TV deal and all that. I don't have money to just throw out hundreds or hundreds of millions. And that player's like, well, I'm not going to sit here and let my career die. I'm going to leave. And as soon as that player leaves, you're like, all right, you can't be here like right That's what happened to KD. Yeah, okay

No, I'm just saying Oklahoma City forever like that. That's what they want. That's what they wanted They were the you want to stay in? Okay see to build your legacy for them to say. Oh, you couldn't win You're not that good. Yeah Same with Russ think about after he leaves Russ does what he does and they're like you, you couldn't win. You're not that good. Yeah. Same with Russ. Think about after he leaves, Russ does what he does. And they're like, you sure you want to stay here? Yeah. You sure you want to stay here? It's no knock to OKC or small market cities. It is. But I'm saying that's the competitive advantage that the major market cities will always have. Even look at like a team like the Timberwolves now, they deserve more national TV games with the squad that they're

rolling out. Look at a team like OKC now, deserves more national TV games with the squad that they're rolling out. Look at a team like OKC now. Deserves more national TV games with the squad they're rolling out. But the league is always going to prioritize those big market teams. It's a business. Of course. But as I'm saying, so if this is a business, right, and we understand this, then as media, isn't it your job to curve your narrative around guys who are out of the business of the NBA? If Jokic last year, if you take Jokic stats last year and he was in Los Angeles for the

Lakers. Crazy. There's no fucking way you even give Embiid. He'd be bigger than life. You wouldn't even think about giving Embiid to him. He'd be bigger than life. That wouldn't even be a counter thought. But because he's in

Denver, you can go, oh, fuck him over there. Nobody's watching. Nobody's watching him over there. We know what John Morant would be in Los Angeles. We know what he would be in Chicago. We know what he would be in New York there. We know what John Morant would be in Los Angeles. We know what he would be in Chicago. We know what he would be in New York City. We know what type of player

he would be. As a basketball fan, you put him in any of those cities, he is your next icon. 100%. So, when he decides to leave, what you going to do? He ain't one of the greats. Cut his legs off.

Small market. You can't do that to small market players because we all know money talks. And they don't got it. And the Los Angeles Lakers, the L.A.s, they can afford the things the Memphis Grizzlies can't. And that's why I was saying with Zion. Get him up out of New Orleans. Get him up there with Steph. Get him in California.

But again, his legacy. But that's what I'm saying. The day you get drafted, if you are a mega, mega, mega, mega, mega superstar, the day you get drafted, if that draft city ain't Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, you cannot actually be part of the top three GOAT discussions. So that's what I was saying with Wimby. Remember when we was talking about where Wimby was going to land? And we were talking about Spurs, five titles in this era too. And it's a small market and it doesn't change. Tim Duncan got five championships, all that,

and no one has him in the top five. That's crazy. Your top five is what cities cities those top fives in? These short is one on though I got say I got no no you said top five also I said I had top five point. I'm just talking about just period just right here No, no, I had Isaiah as top five But I'm just saying when you talk about just when people talk Isaiah as top five. Oh. But I'm just saying, when you talk about just your, when people talk about their top five list.

The big names. It's the fucking same three cities. It is. It is. Chicago, L.A., Boston, if you're lucky. No matter how you look at it, it's the same fucking people. Let's talk about another major city, the major city of Milwaukee. It's Virginie Gill. It's Virginie. another major city the major city of Milwaukee It's burgeoning you

This bird majors, they'll get a Roscoe chicken and waffles soon So after a slow start free time starting to figure it out bucks have won five straight games To move a game behind the Celtics for the best record in the East currently third behind the Celtics in the Sixers Well, let's talk about this man Giannis He's been doing his thing. He dropped his second straight 40 piece granted. It was against the Wizards behind the Celtics and the Sixers. But let's talk about this man, Giannis. He's been doing his thing. He dropped his second straight 40-piece. Granted, it was against the Wizards.

No disrespect to your former team, Gil, but... Ooh, split. There was known as a slum buster around these parts. Respectfully. Gave the Wizards 42 points, 13 rebounds, 8 assists, went 20 for 23 from the field. That's an insane percentage. And in the Bucs' last two games, Giannis is averaging 41 points, 14 rebounds, nearly 8 assists. And the Freak Time combos averaging more than 60 points in their last four games.

Freak Time. Freak Time. So has Freak Time finally figured it out? I mean, him as a player, he always figures it out. I mean, he's averaged 30, 31 plus for the last what, four years? Who, Dame? No, Giannis. And in the blue, I mean,

he figured it out. At some point, you know, what he does, he takes over games, right? Just, like, his talent, his skill is he plays harder than everybody else. Can't teach it. So the fact that he has athleticism and he just has the will to just win, you know, you add those three components,

you got somebody who can walk an average 30. I mean, listen, we got to give credit to the kid, man. He's gotten better every year. Like he didn't have that two dribble spin back two years ago. We're getting, getting the middle of the lane. I keep paying off. You feel me? Like he, hey, and I'm just saying, it just look, it look, he's faster in the post when he makes his moves, whether it's baseline or middle. And we all know, like when you're that size that size you get You touch the paint. It's good Good things happen and I like that he recognizes if he stays aggressive

He has the defense on their heels all the time and I love that about his recognition is recognizing especially in transition I'm gonna push this bitch until you stop me. And even when you try to stop me, I'm going to run you over. So it really helps him and his mentality of being an attack-first player, and I like that about him. I like that he's getting better. He's still not got the Jimmy there yet, but once he incorporates that, it's going to be unstoppable. I mean, we talked about this before.

I don't want to say critical or honest, but just saying if he added those elements to his game how great he could be But even he spent his next the rest of his career without a jumper He's the first ballot Hall of Famer, which is I mean, but I'm but I was never always that was never an issue It's it's it's just understanding the game itself and getting Getting better like I think we confuse getting older and wiser with getting better as a player. If you just track him year by year, if he's doing the same thing,

but he's just doing it in a smarter routine, he's just wiser than he was before. When we get older, we get stronger and wiser. Right? Getting better is a whole different thing. Right? That's just a whole different thing. And a lot of players don't know how to get better.

Yeah. So that's why I hope a player can go 12 years and don't have a jumper. And you're like, what happened? I didn't need it. Yeah. This was so easy. This is all the fuck I give a fuck about. Not knowing that for me to get to LeBron 30 21

I have to add this in I have to really I Have to really put time into it I think sometimes we will work on something and then soon as it don't work like I fuck I Worry about that later and go back to what we're comfortable with Some players are just comfortable playing the way there they've been playing because it's been successful. Sometimes you just, even though you're having success at something, you have to open up another road anyway

because there's something, follow time, or a defense that's prepared for you down the road. And if you haven't opened up another lane for yourself, it's an exit, right? You can keep coming out the door and just keep busting through. At some point, you're going to need an exit route, right?

Back door, just in case, I can't go that way, let me go on. And that's where the jumper and the midi comes from, and he needs to really incorporate that. It is going to save his body a lot. There's some times where he's trying to get to the basket, just put jumper, just pull it up, pull up right there. That's the jumper, that's the jumper, that's the jumper, and he he's trying to get to the basket. Just pull the jumper. Just pull it up. Pull up right there. That's the jumper. That's the jumper. That's the jumper.

And he's still trying to force it. Eventually, it weighs on you. Well, what we're getting out of him, where do we see Middleton and Dame in the situation where he can get some much-needed help to offset his output? Has Middleton been playing? He's in there. I mean, listen, they've been playing. Not well enough.

They've been playing. Like, you know, Dame is still trying to figure it out. He's playing well. It's just the two. The other three are still trying to figure out how he's going to play. Yeah, Middleton's still been on that minute. I think he hasn't played more than 23 minutes in the game this season, and that was the game last night.

Well, at least he out there. A lot of motherfuckers ain't even out there. At least he out there trying. You know what I'm saying? And you could tell he's bothered by his knee, but I like to fight for him. He's fighting for the shit that Klay was fighting for maybe two years ago when he first came back and it's like, don't count me out type shit. He didn't treat him, though.

Yeah, he don't have to. But I like his fight. But I like his fight to be out, because he could literally just be like, yo, I'm not. Yeah, because you know what I'm saying? If they don't win it this year, he's gone. And that's, I mean, and the fucked up part, Dane was on Knuckleheads recently,

just talked about him and Giannis had been in the group chat with each other even before the Bucks had won, trying to figure out ways to make it work. They don't win last season last season kind of opens up that door, but they don't win last season cuz Giannis is hurt I wouldn't say all that. I mean you give they lost cuz they lost confidence coffee. Yeah. Yeah, don't say all that Let's talk about this current Bucs iteration. I know you don't care about the defensive side, and obviously I've never seen a game where the score was 0-0 and the team won.

So you're going to need some offense. But the Bucs are currently ranked top four in offense in the league. Defense is ranked 24th as of this episode. From 2013 to 2022, no team won a chip with a defense ranked lower than 11th. Last season, the Nuggetsgets won their defense was ranked 15th But they had a top five offense When you said it again, you just country gay dude. I seen that I heard it too 13 to 20 22 You may think he was listening. 2013. Say it again. You made me think he was wrong.

From 2013 to 2022, no team won a chip with a defense rank lower than 11. Until Denver did. Last season in the Euro Lord 2023. Until Denver did it. Until Denver did it. The Nuggets won their defense rank 15 top five offense. So I'm just saying it looks like it could be gravitating towards you not really needing that fucking upper echelon defense to win a chip.

But will the Bucs offense be able to overcome their defensive issues? 24th? No. And it's early in the season. You're not going with 24th. Yeah, because they don't have new players to actually make it better. Because I don't consider what Dame's not never been considered a defender. Not a top defender.

No. And then you have Giannis who just... Porter's not really a defender. I'm trying to figure out what... Where were they ranked last year in defense? So last year, let me pull it up. Yosef, I have it in. Who the fuck?

Yeah, that's a good question. I'll make sure I wasn't fucking up. Because Drew... Yeah, Milwaukee last year defensively ranked? Fourth. With Drew. Because Drew, yeah, Milwaukee last year defensively ranked. Fourth. With Drew. With Drew. So fourth.

With Drew. Yep. What about the offense? They didn't have Yon. Well, we're talking about playoffs. So you're saying that. Fifteenth. One player made them drop 20 spots.

Yeah. When you have three defenders on the team, just don't make sense one defender is worse Boston all NBA was boss first team This is the thing you was talking about with Memphis so big have these elite defenders, but your team can't defend It doesn't matter in Boston, Boston Boston loses a defender which they were second last year get a better defender their third third and defense fifth in office I'm saying that's what I'm saying so Boston so Boston loses Marcus smart they lost William sue Robert Williams and you

gain you but you gain you gain a better starting defender and you still third but that was at the end of the season. They were number two. I think by the end of the season this year, they'll be number two. Who? Number one, Boston. Boston was number one the whole year. Then went to two.

They've been one, two. But I'm saying it's... 24th, though. We just don't want to say that the trade made a big difference with the Bucs. It made a big difference. It shouldn't. It did, though. Because my rim protectors are still there.

I can say if I lost, if Giannis is not there and Lopez is not there. Lopez is first team. But look. They lost Drew. Remember what you said about Isaiah Thomas being the anchor of the Detroit Pistons defense. If your top guy who is the first line of defense is getting blown by. You made that a point about them two, John Stockton and Isaiah Thomas, right? Detroit Pistons defense if your top guy who is the first line of defense is getting blown by Like you made that a point about them two of his John Stockton and Isaiah Thomas, right? so my thing is the same with drew and Dane if

Dane is not the first line of resistance and he's making a stop for that He's gonna look less defensive compared to drew. Okay, but then that means if everyone's going by now, that means Lopez, Middleton, and Giannis, that's where they're going to get credit for. Yes, but they didn't have to get credit for it before that because Drew was allowing it to get back there. Drew is second team and the other two boys is first team. So they're getting credit.

The two big boys? Yeah, they're getting credit for something. Whenever it gets back there, they ready. But the rate was less. The rate was less. Now it's more frequent and look a little bit... And it's more straight lines. Yeah. Now, so what is his name? Jared... It's not Jared Jack. Jared from Memphis. Jaron Jackson. Jaron Jackson. I was like, Jared. So who was the defensive players last year for him to win defensive player of the year?

Who was the defensive players? Dylan Brooks. Uh-huh. So him and Dylan. And Bane. First. Did Bane play defense? Nobody knows.

What you mean? We don't know if John Morant played defense. No, Bane played defense. No, Brooks played defense. Brooks? Because he said he played defense. And Steven Adams. That's what I mean. You know what Bane played defense. No, Brooks played defense. Brooks? Because he said he played defense. And Steven Adams. That's what I mean.

You know what I mean? He made an all-defensive team, though. Who? Dylan Brooks. Yeah, Dylan Brooks and Jaron Jackson. And Jaron Jackson. There's two of them. Right?

So have you noticed that there's this big trend when you're talking about defensive players? It's always two sitting on the same team or three. Who's getting the real credit for it? Is Dylan Brooks getting the credit for slapping LeBron or does he have the help of Jaren? I think it's a bit of both, though, because you separate it a lot. And it makes sense when you do because you're giving the credit to the back line. But I think it's a combination of both. I think when you do have two different players, one of them is going to be a guard, one of them is going to the back line. But I think it's a combination of both. I think when you do have two different

players, one of them is going to be a guard, one of them is going to be a big. And I think that's what happened with Milwaukee, is they lost their guard defense with Grayson and Drew. They only left the back side. So now, if Dame is not playing, front D is just going to leave them

exposed to be like, where's our... But that's what I'm saying. As a basketball, as a guy who studied Front D is just going to leave them exposed to be like, well, where's our... But that's what I'm saying. As a basketball, as a guy who studied scoring, that was my thing. Kobe was harder to score on when he had Shaquille O'Neal back there. Shaquille keeps everyone from driving in, which makes Kobe's defense better Not he's a better defender. It's better because you have Shaq back there you remove Shaq you put buying them back there and you know And and all those other guys now your defense is exposed you playing the same defense, but

Now I can go let me I don'm not worried about nobody back there. Nobody's going to hit me back there. So your individual defense that you're getting credit for has no merit anymore because now your back line sucks like shit. So switch that. Instead of it being Bynum and them there, keep Shaq and you got to get somebody else other than Kobe. So Derek Fisher becomes a great defender because you got Shaq back there. But he's not going to become a great defender

because we're going to keep the pressure on Shaq. We're going to get him in foul trouble. He's not going to be able to be a good defender because Kobe's giving less pressure. But they all become great defenders because you have him back there. So Dame's just going to have to become a better defender. He has to become a better defender. Why? He shouldn't because Lopez and West Ham are back there.

You should be a great... It should be easy to play defense. I know, exactly. That's the point, yeah. If he plays better defense, it'll be easier for him to play defense. Yeah. Your defense... Team defense...

That's what I said. Team defense matters versus individual. Your individual defense, what are you really doing? What are you doing? That's what I was saying about Drew when we was talking about the trade. I was like, if Dame can fit into what they were doing as a team before the trade, it will be an easy transition for him. But if he can't, it's going to show.

Who's the worst big man defender? Who would we say that he just can't play no decrease came in okay in the picture in their pick and roll Well, he can get blinded so you think drew is a great defender if Chris came it was this big man Cuz he can draw he can block shot Chris can block shots though Oh, so now you're making Chris a great defender now cuz you talk I'm he wasn't good in the pick and roll now we did all pick and rolls with drew and kiss chris came in how bad does drew look now yeah he looks bad yeah the heater his defense doesn't change no who he is as a defender doesn't change who's how you're putting him in the element where the guy he's with ain't very good that's why I said, what is the element? What are we really saying? This guy is an elite

defender. He is an elite defender. It becomes one on one, making a guy do harder shots, but you're not thinking about the elements. The elements help too. If you got Drew Holiday in the post against let's just say Tatum,

we're going to take that head up. We trust Drew Holiday to guard him, right? But if you take the same matchup and you put Dame down there, we're like, you need some help. I can tell you this right now. If I have Drew Holiday, whatever best defensive player you have on me in the post, and Lopez and... Um... Lopez and Giannis is lifted? Up top.

Up top. Yep. Drew's getting 50 put on him. Yeah. Oh, um... I don't give a fuck who is going. If Giannis and Lopez are not in hell. You think so?

Tatum is giving him 50 or 60. I've seen Drew Hollywood hold his own in the post. Yeah, it's easy to hold... Against bigger players. It's easy to hold your own if I know you have back lines, so now I got to fade. Let's just say they lifted. I've seen them lift it.

No, I don't have to fade anymore, and I can just, oh, I'm just going to get closer to the back. Because even if I miss, you're 6'4". I just get to rebound. But Drew just knows how to play deep. He knows how to play structured. That's what I'm saying. It's structured deep. That's what I'm saying.

There's no great defender by himself. You say, alright, everybody move out. I say the same shit. Stop this guy. I say the same shit. There's no one defender that can just stop anybody. What makes a great defender is he knows the elements of human behavior. He understands my guy is on his left side, so

I know. I don't let him go middle. If if he is gonna shoot He has to go Step back that way. Yeah, so like somebody like quads like I no matter if you beat me or turn me I know you have to step back that way so I can just jump Yep, you know, those are the guys who are great at anticipating where you supposed to be. Yeah, that's what is considered a great defender Yeah, right like drew if I come here and cross over, he knows when I cross over and pull the ball up. So he hits the crossover and then boom.

Now he makes me do something like this. And it's in the structure of spacing with the team. And I know you can't go too far this way. Don't get me wrong. As an individual, he's a great defender. I'm saying what makes him a great defender is what gives him the credit is his team. His reaction, you know, Marcus Smart, I'm going to hit you hard knowing that you're going to react by hitting me back. And as soon as you hit me back, boom, I'm going to take that charge, get an offensive foul.

His attributes and what he does to get the extra plays makes them great defenders. You don't need a team structure for something like that. And that's been the structure for the Celtics. They follow the same type of mantra. Like, look, you guys don't need to be great defenders. But if we play great team defense, somebody out of this group is going to be seen as a great defender.

So who's going to take the award for that? That's what I said. When you hear fans, and they'll go right to the defensive. Oh, he made all-first-team defense. Man, fuck that all-team defense, man. That is not. Like, that is a great. That is great.

Listen, that is great, right? You say, oh, yeah, he's all-first-team. Show me somebody who's on that first-team list, and then you go through our matches and let me know when you stop them. Yeah. And then when you look at that list, you're going to realize they got those guys, all first team, whoever they were, got barbecued,

and then I can give you a list of players you probably never even heard of that actually gave me problems. Yeah, yeah. Real shit. Real defense. You're going to be like, who is that? A defender?

A fucking defender? This popularity list, 50, 48, 36. I have nobody cares about this list you're giving because I don't know how you're equating this. Yeah. I don't know how you're equating this as defense. I mean, it sounds good, but does it make him a great defender? Right. Especially when they put motherfuckers in the game, especially for you.

They're like, no, no, no. You go in. He hate playing against you. I used to look at the list like, oh, this boy's trash. About to cook this nigga. You know, like right now, like Miles Turner, right? Like, so people understand why a real defensive player doesn't get credit for defense. Look at Miles Turner, right?

Block shots, great on-ball defensive player. He would never win a defensive award because he don't rebound. Somehow they have calculated defensive rebounding as defense. Maybe you're a good defender. It's just so stupid. Because you get the rebound, they're equating that as a defensive point. Which that has nothing to do with defense. No, because it's a defensive rebound. Like, secure, box out, get the rebound.

Stopping a possession? Think about it. If you don't box out and someone gets the offensive rebound, what does that equate for that offensive rebound? Does that give him an offensive award for getting the most offensive rebounds in one season? No. So the defensive player, if you're boxing out and getting a rebound, that's a defensive award, right?

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But they're counting that as a metric of stopping a player himself now now look at somebody like Brooke Lopez who? Underdog he irritates me Yeah, you get five rebounds like no he can get five rebounds then I'm watching how he plays and I'm like You're not gonna get it Because what he like the 4.9 for this is his defense is great great but what because he boxed out everybody for them not

so what happens is his man never gets an offensive rebound ever ever ever but he don't get a defensive rebound because what he's doing is when the ball goes up he looks right at his player and he's sitting there playing defense on his player. And I'm like, just go get the fucking rebound. Get the fucking ball, right? Which is the fucking irritating part. But you have to really watch the game to really see what a player is doing. So I'm like, okay, that is a good defensive player,

even though he's not necessarily stopping a player he's stopping his man from getting the offensive rebound so if you average four offensive rebounds against him half or half offense pj tucker and uh anderson vagel tristan thompson those are the guys who will ball go up. They not ball watching. They're turning, where my man at? Hit my man. Turn.

Like, that's old school traditional basketball. Like, someone like P.J. Tucker, right, is a great defender, but he would not get the accolades because he'd get his ass busted. Yep. All the time. All the time. All the time. Right? Right. Does everything right. Down to the drop. Like, man,

scoot his head, slide his feet, everything. He plays great defense, right? When you look at the possession, the inner, he don't get, like, you score, he don't care, he's in it. He would never get no defensive credit because his man is still going to have 30-something. His man, Kevin Durant, is still going to be Kevin Durant.

Luka's still going to be Luka. And they're going to be like, he can't stop nobody. Well, if he wasn't on there, they would have had 60, he would have had 50, he would have had 60, he would have had 70, but you're not giving him the credit because you're looking at the overall final score, not realizing everything he did in the game. Like the little things he did, making this guy have a wide open shot, he made him make two extra passes on the fast break. Those are the things that they're not calculating as defense. Shane Battier, Rajah Bill.

Yeah. Guys that make you work, work, work. I watched a highlight recently of Shane Battier guarding Kobe. Crazy. Great defense. Crazy. Amazing defense. Take these buckets, though.

Fucking Kobe. Hands right here. Hands all in your eye. Man. Kobe probably couldn't see half of those shots. Shane, if you don't stop doing that shit to me when I shoot, boy, I'm going to fuck you. That's the worst. That was one of the best defense I've ever seen on Kobe.

Yeah. Hey, lights out. Yeah. Come take all of this with you. So we, I'm going to fuck you. That was the worst. It was some of the best defense I've ever seen on Kobe. Yeah. Hey, lights out. Yeah. Come take all of this with you. So, we got one more thing to talk about. Let's switch this thing back to offense. So, there's been some debate whether Giannis has a bag. It's been ongoing. A bag of what? A bag of moves. A bag of rocks? He got a bagless bag.

He got a bagless bag. But let's see what he thinks. I saw a tweet maybe like two weeks ago or something. Somebody said like, hey, man, if you think Yans don't have a bag, you're crazy. You don't know basketball. I was like, thank you, man. There's a narrative out there.

That's false. He gave my bag. But it's good like this. Keep it on the low. When you get your ass here and walking, you get the better, you can go back home and start contemplating life. I'm in the shower, taking a cold shower, thinking about, dang,

I didn't know y'all had a bag. That alone... That alone, that's the only reason, bro. It's hard to hate this man. I like that. It's always hard to hate him. No, he's serious. We got to ask the cops.

No, he's very serious. Like, I got a fucking bag. Y'all just thought. He does not have a bag. Does Giannis have a bag? No. But let's just look at the criteria. Seven footer.

Greco-Nigerian. He do. Greco-Nigerian. He do. You know what bag he got? You know what bag he got? The Hakeem Olajuwon bag. He got the 50K? You know what baggy got you know a baggy got the Hakeem Olajuwon You know what bag he got

You feel me back was God yeah, hey, you know he got the bag in three days I'm not trying to compare his bag to KD's guys I would say a stat that will just embarrass the hell out of you But I can just say it's in the teen percent of him trying to do the moves. It's a progression, Gilbert. It's like three and... It's a progression. You see the bad. You're learning. It's three and what? Three and forty? But it's not oh and forty.

Yeah, that's the problem. You hear me? Hey, small victories, Lex. Small. Small. Three. Better than no victories. Better than none. We're trying out here, Gilbert. We're trying We're giving you a hundred shots and you only made three. Are you really happy in life? Can you call yourself a shooter? No?

his back his bag for himself is Is a bag right his euro stepping his lane driving his dunking on your head is a bag. A Giannis bag. It's a bag. It may not be a Gucci bag or Louis V, but it's still a bag. You still got to go to Neiman Marcus to buy it. It's a Birkin in his style of play. Right? Like if you take

Jokic, Jokic has a bag. Yes, he does. His play is a bag and B's play is a bag. The fast break, Euro on your head. There's some dunks he do. You'd be like, how did he do that? How did he get it? He dunked that?

It'd be like, uh, uh, boom. Reach. He reached it before the cabinet door. Like, how big is his fingers like nobody's even considered like any of it is just like he's dunking on people like from places You'd be like Yeah, how did you do that? Look James Harden said man, I wish I could just be seven foot and run up and down and don't We all do my nigga. No, that's it. That's his bad

bag do my nigga that's his bag that's his bag seven foot the point is we've seen seven footers who can't do none of this shit and that used to be the norm i think kd again has spoiled it to the point where we're trying to compare kd's bag to yannis bag kd's bag is generational yannis is generational yannis still has some stuff that's on the him. Can you imagine KD with Giannis' bag? No. Are you dunking under it? No, but his bag too? Yes, with both of them.

KD, Giannis' bag mixed together. No, what I'm saying is when you say generational, you have to say it's generational because we've seen players like Giannis. Like, who jumps higher, him or Blake Griffin? Blake. Blake. Yeah. Who dunks on everybody more? Giannis, who jumps higher, him or Blake Griffin? Blake. Yeah. Who dunks on everybody more? Giannis.

Yeah. Yeah. Amari. Amari jumped higher, right? Mm-hmm. Who looks like they're more of a terrorist when they're playing? When they get the ball. Yeah.

100%. As great as those two guys were and they were dunking on people, Giannis just looks different. Yep. Easier. It looks easier. Like, you're just a little ah, ah, ah. Like you're playing on an eight-foot goal. It's majestic.

But even when they played, it looked like they were jumping on six foot. Like, they're sitting here like. Looking in that motherfucker. Like, Giannis looked like half the time he don't even jump sometimes. It's like, ah, ah, yeah. Like all the fish from Bryce. Be honest, please. You know what would happen if you said, we could show our face

in Milwaukee again. Dad, call off the dogs. Mr. B, call off the dogs. Dad been talking, talking. It's greasy, man. Until we pull up, it's going to be a situation. There's just certain players that you've never seen anything like. Never seen anything like Westbrook.

Never seen anything like LeBron, Greek. Never seen anything like. These are just very different types. Anomalies. I mean, it makes me excited for the future of the league. Obviously sad with guys like KD, Steph, LeBron now on their way out at some point. But we've got a nice gap to bridge. Yeah, we got it. We got one coming to you about what 12 games away I thought you saw my Elijah

Big kid at IMG there's a party in my city, yeah. Hey, that kid's good. Parade. There's a parade. As long as you know, there's going to be one when he gets there. Big call, sir. Big call, yeah.

Like the 7'6 kid? Hey. That kid from IMG you talking about? Huge. So you know the slogan? There's a parade inside my city? Yeah. OK.

Of course. As long as you know it. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. I'm not even going to front, man. Like they need to hurry up and just curtail that. I don't know, man. Just let him come back. All right. Time served. You've been good. We ain't heard no shit in about two, three hours. We don't want to build up too much undue pressure though. We want him to just come on the court. Do his thing. No. We don't want no pressure.

First game, drop 40. No, I'm telling you, listen, Memphis, the city of Memphis, whatever you got planned, that first home game back, make it big as shit. Parade inside your

city, yeah. I will just shut the city down. Whatever you got to do to let the world know he's back. Jai's back. Jai's back. Ain't no subtle shit. Are you coining him as the number one? Number one what?

Number one in the league. Entertainment. Entertainment? Oh, no. Jai. Number one. He's by far. The dancing.

Most needed. Spurs Grizzlies, January 2nd. no. Jai. Number one. He's by far into it. The dancing. Most needed. Spurs-Grizzlies, January 2nd. I need Jai to dunk over. Spurs-Grizz? Where they playing at?

In Memphis. In Memphis. Oh, yeah. Oh! We need Jai. Dumped on. Wow. Dumped on.

Think so? Winbee's getting dumped. When is Steven Adams back? We don't care. When is Steven Adams back? He out for the back. We don't care He gonna need some protection All we gonna see we gonna come down the rock. We already see the plate coming down the right side Down the middle welcome when they asked when be welcome to the NBA moment guarantee is gonna be John Moran Guys gonna be beautiful. I really didn't appreciate how much I missed John. No the Grizzlies do they're a hot pack of boo-boos right now, but

He's coming back records. Listen the game the Grizzlies start against Spurs. That's the seat. That's when he sees I think they in preseason right? He's back Christmas right on my trip. He's back with the let me do the math Preseason and this is just gritty. They need a warm-up. Go out of course Throw this at y'all. What about? Zion with jar Hey Zion. Hey, hey, hey, we need whatever it is Whatever Zion train we had going when he came in lead. They need to go a crank it back up the boys back They play the AU together right? I'm not yeah. Yeah, they play you go. Yeah, hey

Hey, hey, hey can can we get some can we get some for that? We can start that it can we yeah? I want to start that because I started the one with him and Steph, but it's like this one makes more Yeah, go to North no no no no no no They need to go to somewhere together come to LA there is a team in LA that John Ray better I'm listen drama rent or Zion most likely drama is gonna be in a big city at some point You think they'll let him know you said you wouldn't let him go if you was the GM I'm if I'm if I always know I'm giving them I'm I'll give him the state of Tennessee. You can have Tennessee Tennessee is drama right now because at some point he's too he is

His aura is too big it has for the NBA. It has to be in a big market Would you give up Jaron Jackson for Zion? If I want to sell if I want to sell, if I want to sell, yes. If you want the duo together, would you give up another piece for that too? Yeah. Mmm. Now we're starting to get- I like that.

This is a- I like that. I like that. Because the Steph shit didn't make too much sense to the crew, so I'm like, hey, this one may make a little bit more sense. Just to get him out of New Orleans though. To get him out of New Orleans? That's so sad. When you look at a talent, yeah, let's just get him out of New Orleans, though. To get him out of New Orleans? That's so sad.

We look at it and tell him, yeah, let's just get them on out to a big city. And now we see why there's lockouts. Because if we think like that as players, what you think the owners is doing? Did they not talk to each other? Alright, so we're going to keep this thing moving. Got some sad news report.

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I know I got to stop. Because when we get to it, I got to, I'm cashing out and right now I know I got it I got a stuff because when we get to I got to stop giving the work money cuz you know the cash app You know is it they got a cat? Do you make it private like what do I mean? But what happened me cannot cannot consulting. How does the given away of the money right here? Just like this like this. It can, I can get on the chat. Yeah, but we can see your name. Right?

So like this. You're not going to pick my name because you see it? No, no, like this. All right, let's say Kong Daddy, you won 500. I just look, boom, right there. You just pick them. Did you say Kong Daddy? I just, the first name I see.

So if you see my name, but if you see my name, you pick mine. I don't know who's going to do it, but that's how we do it. We just look, however the chat we do we just look however the chat Go, I need to look at my name. I might need to go ahead in there comment a couple times call daddy Okay, that's a good way you see that's all we do is go right here in the chat and just boom Yeah, I'm get my friends to go on the chat. Hey all over here trying to steal from the people It's not still we doing what you doing If we get once we get the fire that we're giving away $10,000.

That's no matter what. If we do it before December 1st, we are giving you the pass. Kong Daddy going to say, yeah, that's me. I'm looking on my phone. We are looking. Look at the name, God damn it. God damn. Yeah, that's me.

Yeah, that's me. It's called an example, daddy. Man, change that name, man. Change that name. I ain't calling no grown man, call me anything. I'm not calling no grown man. Hey, the best thing about it is it's going to be in their memory now, so when that money's coming up, they're going to be like, oh, Kong, Kong, that's real!

There you go! Two questions and we out. All right, let's get it. Let's move on to Mostly Fans. What's going on, chat? We appreciate you guys sending these questions in. We're trying to get our Thanksgiving started a little earlier, so we have two questions today.

First question. What the fuck is this? This is from an underdog user, Hakeem's Travel Agency. That's a good name. That's a good name. That's a good name. Since Thanksgiving represents land theft, who do you guys think will have the most steals this season?

Land theft? Jeez. They come over here and say, eat this turkey, we're taking this shit over. They crazy. Take these pearls and these bag of knuckles and we'll go ahead take Manhattan damn Most steals I will go with

Who's gonna get the most deals I'm thinking of people who be like jumping the passing lanes real well So top 10 steals right now. We got SGA. I was about to say SGA look like Chris Paul the ham reddish Jalen Suggs Contavious Caldwell Pope Kawhi LeBron SGA herb jump. I'm gonna go cam ready for them. Yeah He's a crumb snatcher SGA's from Canada boys somebody out of the country trying to come here still land yep colonization Colonization Canadian blacks and American blacks got a link up got a link up All baby were everywhere they drink they coffee different, I don't know

Me in Canada. Yeah, they drink they coffee different. I know what else weird in Canada their Oreo drinking it with their coffee different. You know what else is weird in Canada? Their Oreos. They're drinking it with their hands? What do you mean different? Stop. You're like, who is this? How do you drink coffee? It's hot. It's hot. They put it in a cup, right?

And drink it? See, that's what I... Rashad, please. Next up, y'all ain't never watched no Canadian drink coffee with their hands. I think you just

made that up, man. It's getting reckless here. Thanksgiving week. All right. If you Canadian, how do you drink coffee? Because now I want to know. Now I'm concerned that Canadians drink coffee out of their hands. I don't think like...

If you see them out there doing it... I think he's just trolling, y'all. That ain't even hot coffee. See, they said it, the caps. The caps. Them motherfuckers ain't never been in the Ronto. They ain't never been outside the porch. You think you don't have a passport?

Stop it. You in the chat, motherfucker. You ain't never been nowhere. Chat is thriving. Happy Thanksgiving to the chat, too. We appreciate y'all. Make sure you're enjoying this time with your loved ones. They said Lexi Dog got ADHD.

It can't go to sleep. It can't wait. He was knocked out the whole show and now he's hyper. A lot of great comments. We got one more question. This is a video question from underdog username Anthal. Yo, what's good Gil? My question is who y'all think the best six man of all time is?

Lou Will, Jamal Crawford, Manu, let me know. I'm going to say Lou. Yeah, that man is $100. I'm gonna say Lou. Lou Will. Who's the best seventh man? I mean, the best who has the... Oh, man. All time. Uh-oh. It has to be between

Lou and Jamal. For me. Not me. J.R. Smith. J.R. Smith is the best six-man for me. Definitely an elite six-man. Like, have they played one-on-one? J.R. Smith, I'm going J.R. Yeah, nah.

But is that the best or the most talented? See, there's two different things. When they said the name, I looked at the timeline of the career of six men even though Lou and Jamal You know credentials and resume and all look great but when I tie in talent to that and I put in like What they did in the in-game shit I mean the J.R. Smith in game and I know people gonna be like I know I don't even want to reading about what about

Ginobili Like he has team success, right? That's team success like that's not standing on your own like being a real live like like if We got one game on and who's gonna score 50 right? No one's gonna pick Ginobili to score 50 points, right? So it's You know, this is more of an individual Award versus you know your team success or like seven or your five rings is nuts

What did you do as an individual? When you checked in as a six man, you check And we see that and we like, oh, shit. God damn it. Who got him? I mean, they're not saying like six man is not important. No. Microwave.

Microwave. Microwave. No. Because he made it like, I don't want to say cool, but like. Microwave. Quick. Yeah, like six man, like you was elite if he was a six-man after Lou Will kind of embodied that and kind of just embraced it, you know?

Before Lou Will and them, it was Vinny. It was the only, like, six-man we would know. Like, Lou Will, like, when it comes to overall as an individual talent, Lou Will is probably the best six-man. I'll give him the best six-man. The most dangerous six-man was Jamal Crawford. Yeah. Dangerous as fuck. Like, he was a six-man that was going to embarrass you.

And he was going to try to give you 50. Right, and it was going to be like one of those embarrassing 50s, like you was going to be in the fast break with him and he was going to try to really make you look bad. Lil Will was just going to get to the, he going to get his files, he going, like, you going to be like, dang, he got 20 already, god damn.

You know what I mean, you look up and Lil Will got 20, 25. You know, Jamal's,'re going to feel his 25. Oh, yeah. Because he's going to make you look stupid. It's like the difference between 007 and John Wick. Yeah. I think one is John Wick. Yeah, we are here.

One of them is 007. Yeah, like real proper. Jamal Crawford is John Wick. John Wick, for sure. He's going to fuck it up. You're going to be like, ah, there. He was here. Did you see?

J-Faul has his little work, his little silencer. John Wick blowing up the whole shit. Oh, my lord, man. And that's kind of how Lou Will's demeanor was, like 007. And, yeah. This nigga come in here bouncing that bitch on his tiptoes Jamal Crawford and yeah, I don't know won't know nobody was just clack like it's like Ginobili was he was like James Bond to more like Commission impossible mission

More Tom Cruise okay More teams more teams. Do you need to other? Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible is Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. More Tom Cruise-ish. Okay. Yeah. It's possible it's more teams. More teams. You need your other element. You need your whole team. Yeah.

There we go. Okay. Okay. Look at that. Hey. They fucking with you today. They fucking with you today. Ladies and gentlemen.

Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen. They're best friends. Best friend. I'm taking out a sizzler. I'm taking out a sizzler with me. It's more Mission Impossible to be boring. For the first time you're going to come. There is a sizzler in the area. The biscuits are gravy, boy. Thanks for Americana. Sizzler.

Sizzler used to be the shit, man. I've never been to Sizzler. You've never been to Sizzler? I'm telling you, Daddy. I'm with you. You've never been to Sizzler? You ain't never been either? I wasn't that poor.

Pops is not feeling this. We're doing a sizzler. What about Golden Corral? Sizzler was gourmet in the 90s. I didn't know what that is. Now Golden Corral, that's, you know. I don't have been there either. I don't know what that is.

I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that poor. Pops is not feeling this. We're doing a sizzler. Sizzler was gourmet in the 90s. I didn't know that. Now, gourmet, that's, you know. I don't have been there either. Which one's better, Norm's or Sizzler's? Sizzler's. It's better than Norm's?

Yeah. Bro, Sizzler got the sizzler. Norm's is like, oh, yeah. I'm sorry. Well, goddammit, I was poor. You were poor. Norm's after nine. Yeah, you was.

You was on the line. No, mean, I was on the gun line. No, I was on the gun line. Team shit, like you go to Norm's and be like, we're going to Norm's today, everybody. Norm's was like Denny's Bro Cousin. No one saw Sizzler for the championship. Norm's was like Denny's Bro Cousin. Sizzler was gourmet. Gourmet.

It was a fine dining steakhouse. Top notch. You give out the award. There's a big one in New York, though. Which one is Red Lobster? That's different. That's What is the lobster? You know No first dates Reason pink a lot of them they got lost. That's where we went. I got real life. Yeah, we went check me

We go in there the road the red lobsters on Wilshire back in the day. Oh two hour wait What is this like Like a buff lay buffet with this salad bar You got the salad bar and you got the potatoes and the spaghetti stations pizza you get out limited pieces We got this Everything I don't know We gonna see my dad I'm confusing it with something's done. Let's give one more shout out to st. Seve for getting Gil shoes

We're gonna get to 50k next week after this Thanksgiving layoff. We have more content for y'all this week We appreciate y'all pulling up with us. Have a great Thanksgiving. Let's go. This is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop! Whoop, whoop! Whoop, whoop! Thank you. We'll see you next time. Bye.